Moscow

[QUOTE=Pizdyets]They've been around as long as the Ararat has been (~6 years).

My info is a little dated (almost a year old), but a (good looking) colleague was able to negotiate a true hottie down to $400 for 4 hours (3-7am). I'd guess you'd be able to get one for $200/hour at prime-time, less off-peak. I'm not very experienced in hotel girls, as they usually like to focus on ST and are loathe to leave the hotel.[/QUOTE]I never noticed them before, although I guess it is logical that they were always there. And no, they didn't look like they were going to leave the hotel... certainly not to walk through the slush and climb into a junky taxi. They were very much S-class girls. I'd guesstimate they were wearing at least $5000 in clothes and jewelry each... so perhaps business was good. Having an Armenian boyfriend or two (guys who run the hotel and much of the hotel clientel) probably doesn't hurt either. :)

[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]I'd guesstimate they were wearing at least $5000 in clothes and jewelry each... so perhaps business was good.[/QUOTE]

On a related note of high-end talent, was in NF the other night taking some partners on a sightseeing tour. Initial quotes were in the 1000 to 1500 range for LT. Yes, I'm talking good ole US dollars. Astonishingly, some guys were in fact leaving with girls, but I have no idea what the terms were. Would be interesting to know. Frankly, I cannot think of a single woman (pornstar, Hollywood actress, famous gymnast or figure skater) whom I would pay that kind of money to fuck. It boggles my mind.

As for the crisis, I was chatting about it with a pro I've known for a while. Though we'd hit the sack once in the past (after way too many cocktails), we're mainly just friends and she's always a great source of info. She said that the crisis hasn't really affected her much -- she's turning the same number of tricks (1-2 per week) and insists on a rate in USD ($350-400 for LT).

[QUOTE=Pizdyets]On a related note of high-end talent, was in NF the other night taking some partners on a sightseeing tour. Initial quotes were in the 1000 to 1500 range for LT. Yes, I'm talking good ole US dollars. Astonishingly, some guys were in fact leaving with girls, but I have no idea what the terms were. Would be interesting to know. Frankly, I cannot think of a single woman (pornstar, Hollywood actress, famous gymnast or figure skater) whom I would pay that kind of money to fuck. It boggles my mind.

As for the crisis, I was chatting about it with a pro I've known for a while. Though we'd hit the sack once in the past (after way too many cocktails), we're mainly just friends and she's always a great source of info. She said that the crisis hasn't really affected her much -- she's turning the same number of tricks (1-2 per week) and insists on a rate in USD ($350-400 for LT).[/QUOTE]Interesting. What kind of clientel is she getting, local or western?

[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Interesting. What kind of clientele is she getting, local or western?[/QUOTE]

Foreign visitors. Almost exclusively. I didn't ask her yet about the split between regulars and first-timers, but I'm guessing alot of her business is repeat. She's a great conversationalist, an honest girl, and just plain cool. Put that together with a killer bod, and it's a winning combo.

[QUOTE=Pizdyets]Foreign visitors. Almost exclusively. I didn't ask her yet about the split between regulars and first-timers, but I'm guessing alot of her business is repeat. She's a great conversationalist, an honest girl, and just plain cool. Put that together with a killer bod, and it's a winning combo.[/QUOTE]Those kind of girls do get addictive, especially if they can suck the chrome off a bumper. Something about good oral skills that makes a girl irresistable.

Got this girl in St.Pete I more or less hate, but my god she can suck cock. She's a freebie, but I still spend more time and money on her than I want to, but my god can she suck cock. She knows every trick... gobs of saliva, looks you in the eye, brushes her hair out of her face so you can watch the action, slurps and sucks loudly, gulping it all down and beating herself with the rod aftwerwards. And that after playing innocent all day. Hot as bricks, 24-yr old brunette with firm tits, skinny legs and a 50kg frame and can't find a husband. But my god can she suck cock. Born for porn, maybe she ought to give that a try.

Ho-ness:
Business must be down overall, or was NF drawing a decent crowd? Maybe NF is crisis-proof since it is the one and only address for many sexpats on expense accounts.

Yes, I agree with you. But are mamba girls and salons a good price/quality solution? I got hundres phone numbers of 2500 rubles girls and I can't believe thay are all frauds. The only good flirt.ua.com girl, that I found in Kiev, dealt on-line like moslove.com girls.

[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Those kind of girls do get addictive, especially if they can suck the chrome off a bumper. Something about good oral skills that makes a girl irresistable.

Got this girl in St.Pete I more or less hate, but my god she can suck cock. She's a freebie, but I still spend more time and money on her than I want to, but my god can she suck cock. She knows every trick... gobs of saliva, looks you in the eye, brushes her hair out of her face so you can watch the action, slurps and sucks loudly, gulping it all down and beating herself with the rod aftwerwards. And that after playing innocent all day. Hot as bricks, 24-yr old brunette with firm tits, skinny legs and a 50kg frame and can't find a husband. But my god can she suck cock. Born for porn, maybe she ought to give that a try.

Ho-ness:
Business must be down overall, or was NF drawing a decent crowd? Maybe NF is crisis-proof since it is the one and only address for many sexpats on expense accounts.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pizdyets]Astonishingly, some guys were in fact leaving with girls, but I have no idea what the terms were. Would be interesting to know. Frankly, I cannot think of a single woman (pornstar, Hollywood actress, famous gymnast or figure skater) whom I would pay that kind of money to fuck. It boggles my mind.[/QUOTE]The prices don't surprise me, and it's good to hear that the dyeffki are back to quoting Dollar prices. What would be interesting to know is... what kind of service did your partners get? Was it really LT? Or did they get the ol' bait-n-switch?

[QUOTE=Pizdyets]As for the crisis, I was chatting about it with a pro I've known for a while. Though we'd hit the sack once in the past (after way too many cocktails), we're mainly just friends and she's always a great source of info. She said that the crisis hasn't really affected her much -- she's turning the same number of tricks (1-2 per week) and insists on a rate in USD ($350-400 for LT).[/QUOTE]Are you talking about our mutual acquaintance?? Seems like she is also quoting in Dollars again.

[QUOTE=Stravinsky]The prices don't surprise me, and it's good to hear that the dyeffki are back to quoting Dollar prices. What would be interesting to know is... what kind of service did your partners get? Was it really LT? Or did they get the ol' bait-n-switch?[/QUOTE]

My partners aren't insane either, so they just laughed it off and headed to HotDog (thankfully without me), where they hooked up with a couple of "perfect body" hotties for $350 LT (each, of course). Service, they said, was only so-so (no kissing, no GFE).

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Are you talking about our mutual acquaintance?? Seems like she is also quoting in Dollars again.[/QUOTE]

Yes, I'm talking about our mutual acquaintance. And $350 was always her "sweet spot" whether in rubles or dollars. Even with that, she's probably netting only $1500-$2000 per month (operational costs being taxis, club cover and drinks). Still, that ain't bad for working only 3 nights a week.

[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Those kind of girls do get addictive, especially if they can suck the chrome off a bumper. Something about good oral skills that makes a girl irresistable.
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Yeah, I have a freebie who gives me the same type of abuse punctuated with mind blowing BJs. She'll throw a tantrum for no reason when we're out with friends. Or no-show on a date, telling me that she decided to get fucked up with her friends instead. Or show up 2 hours late, then tell me she has to have dinner with another guy in an hour. But damn... absolutely no gag reflex. None at all. She'll take it all, pull the hair out her face, look me in the eye and smile as best as she can with her (thankfully upturned) nose pressed against my pubic bone. And she simply loves sex. Never gets tired of it. Even after I've shot two loads down her throat, she'll dumurely ask "You think you can get hard again if I lick your balls? I still want you to fuck my ass." To put icing on the cake, she dropped 6kg in the past year and now has the body of a gymnast. Too bad she's such a flake.

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Ho-ness:
Business must be down overall, or was NF drawing a decent crowd? Maybe NF is crisis-proof since it is the one and only address for many sexpats on expense accounts.[/QUOTE]

NF was quite full with guys and girls alike. Without a doubt, it is [b]the[/b] go-to place in Moscow where you are guaranteed of finding hotties willing to fuck just about anyone, as long as the price is right.

[QUOTE=Pizdyets]Yes, I'm talking about our mutual acquaintance. And $350 was always her "sweet spot" whether in rubles or dollars. Even with that, she's probably netting only $1500-$2000 per month (operational costs being taxis, club cover and drinks). Still, that ain't bad for working only 3 nights a week.[/QUOTE]

Just curious, what's stopping a girl like this from finding a sponsor and having a much easier life? Or is she too westernised for the local Russian elite?

[QUOTE=Ash1001]Just curious, what's stopping a girl like this from finding a sponsor and having a much easier life? Or is she too westernised for the local Russian elite?[/QUOTE]

Who wants to hang with the local Russian elite? Not me, for sure. And if she were looking for a sponsor, I'm pretty sure it'd be a foreign one. She even insists that I speak English with her so that she can improve.

[QUOTE=Acolonizer]Yes, I agree with you. But are mamba girls and salons a good price/quality solution? I got hundres phone numbers of 2500 rubles girls and I can't believe thay are all frauds. The only good flirt.ua.com girl, that I found in Kiev, dealt on-line like moslove.com girls.[/QUOTE]Many mamba girls with the pink profiles ARE salon girls. If they are going for 2500 rubles then you surely will have to go to their place. There is of course no guarantee that she will be the one in the picture. I generally don't use salons myself, so I am not an expert, at least not in Moscow.

Yes, I know most "pink framed" girls in mamba sites are salons or agencies or mamashkas.

Firstly, I see a big difference in quantity and services in replies, between Kiev and Moscow. I hope this is a real difference.

Secondly, they are about 75% of prostitutes in mamba sites, therefore it is sure a lot of men have used them. I think salons and tochkas have the best quality/price rate, I mean we could find 9s or 10s for cheap money.

So I beg reports about experiences in salons from everybody. Do salons lie and rip-off customers? Do salons provide services promised in messages? Which are the salons? And about tochkas, which streets and how we can find tochkas in Moscow?

Please, don't talk about Russian reports by Russian men in Russian sites because they are often unreliable.

[QUOTE=Acolonizer]So I beg reports about experiences in salons from everybody. Do salons lie and rip-off customers? Do salons provide services promised in messages? Which are the salons? And about tochkas, which streets and how we can find tochkas in Moscow?

Please, don't talk about Russian reports by Russian men in Russian sites because they are often unreliable.[/QUOTE]

Unreliable? By what do you base this? I've found sextalk reviews to be quite "on the money" with the salons I've visited. And as I've said before, the traffic on sextalk is many times that of what we have here, on our beloved ISG forum. Can't even remember the last salon review posted here... might have even been mine, or someone I dragged along for the ride.

Please:

Do salons lie and rip-off customers? Do salons provide services promised in messages? Which are the salons? And about tochkas, which streets and how we can find tochkas in Moscow?