Many thanks to TheWorld and Twiceaweek for clarifying the issue for me. Still, I'd like to read the original if you guys could send me the link to that webpage.
Again, really appreciate your help.
Woovictor
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Many thanks to TheWorld and Twiceaweek for clarifying the issue for me. Still, I'd like to read the original if you guys could send me the link to that webpage.
Again, really appreciate your help.
Woovictor
Visiting these 2 massage days a couple of day ago
K pressure
Lady 5/10
Room 4/10
Cost 490
Body massage in the shower + cbj asked for second session on the bed, good service
45 mns
37 dundas
Lady 8/10
6/10
Cost 490
2 shots on bed
If I have to return I choose 37
Yours
I prefer the sessions at 37, younger lady.
[QUOTE=WooVictor]Many thanks to TheWorld and Twiceaweek for clarifying the issue for me. Still, I'd like to read the original if you guys could send me the link to that webpage.
Again, really appreciate your help.
Woovictor[/QUOTE]
Hi
If you go to the 141 website and then go on the english forums bit of it, then go to hong kong reports. from there look for a thread about a girl in tst champagne court. its a thread of about 3 pages.
Hope that helps.
Went to CS Sauna today and a weird thing happened.
First the environment. Very nice facilities with hot and cold pools, steam room and sauna. The place is only a few months old so it still had that brand new feel.
Got to the lounge and was approached by a manager. Told me that HJ was only available. I told him that a friend of mine sent me here had gotten FS. He instantly nodded in agreement and quoted a fee of ~1,900 HKD.
Problem is when I got to the room and went through the motions with the girl she told me that HJ was the only option.
Very fustrating indeed. Can any brothers confirm if they have had simillar experiences?
BTW: The girl looked a lot like my secretary. Really wanted to do her because of that too.
The World,
Thanks very much.
Regards.
Woovictor
[QUOTE=The World]Hi
If you go to the 141 website and then go on the english forums bit of it, then go to hong kong reports. from there look for a thread about a girl in tst champagne court. its a thread of about 3 pages.
Hope that helps.[/QUOTE]
Hi HCH2007
About a year or two ago I went to River Nile Sauna, apparently run by the same people who now operate CS, and had similar experiences.
The first time I went there, late at night, I was given full service. The manager didn't ask me before hand, and I didn't ask. Towards the end of my massage session the masseuse simply asked if I wanted full service, I said yes, and that's what I got. I think the bill was HK$1,700.
The second time I went there, I got nothing but straight massage. As in the first case, there was no discussion before my massage session. During massage, my masseuse was very professional and gave no hint of any extra services. Towards the end I asked if she would offer anything special, and she said no. I asked to speak to the manager. He came in and told me that only straight massage was on over, not even a handjob. The bill was about $900, if I remember correctly.
The third time, again no discussion with the manager before hand. My masseuse said she was new there and would only give me a handjob, saying that she's might give me full service if I visited her next time. The bill was about $1,100.
About two months ago, I went to CS, still no discussion with the manager before hand. Towards the end of my massage session, my masseuse asked if I wanted HJ or FS, and I opted for the latter. I got what I wanted, for $1,900.
I must say that I'm not too sure of their policy. I suspect the establishment allows the girls to choose their bottom line. Perhaps the best policy is to confirm with your masseuse exact what is on offer before she starts. I'm sure you can replace her with a full service girl if you want.
I hope you didn't pay that much for HJ on your last trip.
Regards.
Woovictor
[QUOTE=Hch207]Went to CS Sauna today and a weird thing happened.
First the environment. Very nice facilities with hot and cold pools, steam room and sauna. The place is only a few months old so it still had that brand new feel.
Got to the lounge and was approached by a manager. Told me that HJ was only available. I told him that a friend of mine sent me here had gotten FS. He instantly nodded in agreement and quoted a fee of ~1,900 HKD.
Problem is when I got to the room and went through the motions with the girl she told me that HJ was the only option.
Very fustrating indeed. Can any brothers confirm if they have had simillar experiences?
BTW: The girl looked a lot like my secretary. Really wanted to do her because of that too.[/QUOTE]
Have there been more since the spate last year or the year before?
[url]http://www.iht.com/bin/printfriendly.php?id=20668372[/url]
The Associated Press
Sunday, March 8, 2009
HONG KONG: All four women were prostitutes. And all four were killed in rented apartments where they were working alone.
The back-to-back killings have drawn attention to a peculiarity in Hong Kong law: Prostitution is legal, but brothels are not. As a result, many prostitutes work alone in apartments, leaving them vulnerable to attack. The law also bans others from making money off prostitution -- a rule meant to keep out pimps, but which also prevents sex workers from hiring security guards.
"Prostitutes are our city's most vulnerable workers because of the ambiguities," Hong Kong's leading English language newspaper, the South China Morning Post, said in a recent editorial urging the government to reconsider the laws. "They deserve, and must be allowed to receive, better protection."
So far, the government has rebuffed such appeals. The laws "strike a reasonable balance between the human rights and privacy of sex workers, the well-being of other members of the community and the prevailing moral values of the community," the Hong Kong Security Bureau said in a statement.
The debate highlights the role of the sex trade in freewheeling, capitalist Hong Kong, a former British colony now ruled by China. The latest government estimate, in 2001, put the number of prostitutes at 200,000 in this city of seven million.
Prostitution has long been common at night clubs, karaoke bars, massage parlors and hair salons, despite being illegal: The law defines brothels as locations housing two or more prostitutes.
A relatively small but growing number of prostitutes known as "phoenix sisters" in Chinese work on their own. The number of one-woman operations has grown five- or six-fold since a decade ago to about 2,500, said Elaine Lam from Zi Teng, an advocacy group for prostitutes.
"Why do people target sex workers? They are isolated. Nobody cares about what happens to them. People also take out their frustrations on sex workers. People think, 'These women are bad women anyway. We can treat them however we like to,'" she said.
By contrast, in mainland China, the authoritarian government bans prostitution and paying for sex, although the sex trade is rampant. Police frequently round up prostitutes and place them in detention centers. Any discussion of legalization is rare, if not unthinkable, and recent immigrants from China are among the prostitutes of Hong Kong.
A report by the group Action for Reach Out, based on a survey of 113 Hong Kong sex workers from March 2006 to March 2007, found that 41 percent said customers have forced them to have sex without condoms. Another 18.6 percent ran into customers who refused to pay, and 13.3 percent said customers were violent.
The gory details of the three murders in January, along with an earlier one in November, captivated the media and public. They followed four similar killings in March last year, including one in which the victim was strangled with a shower hose.
"New killer appears, anxiety spreads among phoenix sisters," blared a headline in the Ming Pao Daily News, a respected Chinese language newspaper.
The most recent victims included a 43-year-old divorced mother and a 47-year-old woman, reportedly found naked with a silk scarf tied around her neck. All eight victims worked alone out of rented apartments, known locally as "one room, one phoenix."
Activists want the government to allow prostitutes to work together in small groups, in effect legalizing brothels. But any such move promises to be politically sensitive in a city where many hold conservative social values.
"Most people may not accept it. Traditional Chinese society views sex work as immoral," said 52-year-old driver Ho Kwok-pun. He said he supports legalization: "This way we can protect them."
Even if the government isn't budging, police were quick to make an arrest. Officers, with media in tow, made an unusually public visit to one of the crime scenes with a 24-year-old suspect. Live footage showed the man, charged with two of the January murders, walking with a hood over his head into a dark, narrow stairwell next to a shuttered storefront.
Meanwhile, activists are helping sex workers pay for safety alarms and surveillance cameras. Prostitutes say they are checking on each other more regularly.
"Why do we keep working? Because we need to eat. We need to support our children," a prostitute who would only give her name as Mimi said at a news conference organized by Zi Teng. She wore a blue hat and a white handkerchief over her mouth to conceal her identity. "We need to support our children ... sex work is a profession."
Hi,
Is there already impact felt on the pricing now due to the economy?
FL going down back to 1000 or 800 for LT or is it still difficult.
At the end they still have to finance all the trip, but maybe better to have some customers and cheaper but none?
Going next week for 4 days again.
Rgds,
Mike
I was getting 1000 for LT no problem when I was there in January. As long as Navy not in town (and I don't think they will be during March). Also watch out for the end of this month when the Rugby 7's hits town.
CT
Just a note, I am in town this evening if anyone is interested in getting together for an evening of "boobs and beer". PM me a contact numer of email and I will call or write. I wish my little Viet friend was still here, but she had to return a week or so ago. Another opportunity to explore new horizons!
Sky
I'm going to be in town on these dates and will be hitting the Wan Chai bars. If anyone fancies meeting up for a few beers then PM me.
Cheers
Norman
I ask myself why do I waste my time, maybe because I think I will find that 1 in 1,000 girl that will be my dream come true. What am I talking about, it is 141s. Had some free time this past weekend (away from my girlfriend) so I went online to check out the new 141s in TST. Wow, they look hot!
I went to Champangne Court B in Tsim Sha Tsui. I had a list of hot chicks I was going to visit and I was ready. The plan was to go in the afternoon around 2:00 pm before the rush have sex, take a break with a late lunch, bang again, then get a massage, then bang again later that night. I had taken a pill to keep my pepe strong so I was ready for action. The following was the result:
1st girl: Not the same girl in the pic so I left.
2nd girl: Busy
3rd girl: Look much older in person, so I left.
4th girl: Same girl in pic but service was terrible. Ya, she fucked but no service to speak of, cost 600HK.
5th girl: Could not find the room, must have been wrong rm # on 141 site.
6th girl: Not home.
7th girl: Find the room number just as another guy was coming out..no thanks.
By this time, it was later in the evening and I had enough of this BS. Got in a taxi and went to 37 Dundas. Had good service for a girl that looked 25. The usual ass licking, BBBJs and 2 fucks.
Late that night, I also went to 141 Portland. The girls come and sit with you for a few minutes. You can play, touch, kiss and see if you like her before you choose. I picked this very slim young girl with little cute pink tits. She was lots of fun. Nice place and the rooms are new.
After I left 37 D. and 141 Portland, I asked myself why do I waste my time with 141s????????? Next time, I will not waste my time with 141s, I will go to a good yellow sign, sit, relax, and have the girls come to me....the way it should be!
HI all,
Headed for 2 nights to HK before Phils and Thailand.
Where do the Phil Nannies hang out, the discos? Poor girls barely ever get stupped so i am there to give as much as possible.
Any counsel or wing men are welcome!
JJ
Are Sauna/Hotel/Ferry packages available at the Kowloon Terminal in Hong Kong or only the main ferry on HK Island?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Just Jim]Hi all,
Headed for 2 nights to HK before Phils and Thailand.
Where do the Phil Nannies hang out, the discos? Poor girls barely ever get stupped so I am there to give as much as possible.
Any counsel or wing men are welcome!
JJ[/QUOTE]I have written before on this before, so you can check my earlier posts. The domestic helper (DH) situation seems to be a mixture of Filipinas and Indonesians. I think there are about even numbers of Indos/Filipinas in HK now. Indonesian women are wilder but their English is often not great. Nevertheless they make themselves understood. Sometimes I think because they cannot communicate so well in English, they just are more physically agressive. It is quite usual for them to check you out, squeezing you from time to time while dancing. Filipinas tend to be sweeter, but there are more of them "working" or want you to be boyfriend material; you have to separate those on their "off-day" from the "working" tourists.
The best days are Saturday and Sunday, with Sunday being busier. Go to Laguna or New Makati. The girls mostly come in about 4:30-5:30p and stay till 8-9 when they have to go home for curfew. Some will stay out all night on Saturday, especially in Laguna, though the tourists move into the bars in the evening. Both mornings you can start – or end – at Bridge, which opens at 5am and keeps going till about noon on weekends. On Sundays you can move to Bar 109 at Noon where, for some reason, the girls get particularly crazy. They dance on the bar and like to snog on the dance floor. While in the other bars the Indos give you a regular squeeze to check you out, here they are likely to reach inside. And the short-time hotel is just a few doors down, and they know it. Any time check out Old China Hand for a pub break. You can also check out Boracay and Galaxy. These have mostly lesbians, but some are bi and I have heard reliably of pairs picking up guys for threesomes.
Neptune on weekend afternoons seems to be a mixture, part DH, part working tourists, part lesbian. But not as busy as Laguna or New Makati. Fenwick is dead.
Outside the bars, on weekends you can find the Filipinos outside all over Central and the Indonesians in Causeway Bay, especially Victoria Park. You will find lots that won’t go to the bars in Wanchai and they are very approachable.
Outside the weekends you can find some DHs still at Laguna, in Victoria Park and in the Hong Kong Global chat room on Yahoo.
One thing that is kind of funny is how the working tourists look upon of the DHs, and vice versa. The DHs pretty much ignore the working girls, and smile a bit at the guys who are pursuing them. They probably feel sorry for the tourists but recognize that as DHs they have accomplished something by getting legally to HK and earning a legit salary. The working girls, on the other hand, will laugh your DH-friend, looking down on the DH because of the work she does. I don’t quite get it. But I digress.
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