Rio de Janeiro Reports

Hey guys,

I wanted to contribute to this thread since reading through it had provided me so much info when I was in Rio. I stayed for 2 weeks, first in Ipanema and the second week in Lapa. When I was in Lapa, I visited both Dark Room and 4 x4 every night. My routine was always go to Dark Room, get a nut out in a 30 min session and then walk over to 4 x4 and chill there while making out and deciding who to fuck with a clearer head.

At Dark Room, my main go-to was almost always Mayte. Dark Room seems to me like one of those places where new upcoming talent is mixed with old dated talent. I saw Mayte maybe 3 times that week. Every time she was enthusiastic, always had a smile on her face and was very clearly enjoying her job. My last time with her, I gave her a 100 real tip more as a good-bye tip and she put it in her butt for me. That was fun. I saw Isabel once and I regretted it. It took me the whole 30 minutes to nut with her. There's another older girl there, she asked for my number and her name's initials are E are. She's definitely exhausted by the work and tried hard to see me off hours and to get me into some quasi-relationship shit. Also showed me pics of an Asian-American gringo who she sees (dude if you're reading this, I wouldn't trust her with your real identity). The woman I really wanted was the light skinned / English speaking boss lady. We ended up chatting for a bit my last time there and I asked her what she wanted and what she was looking for. She told me that she was looking for a Dark Room but for women where she could go and get pleasure too. I offered to go down on her for an hour because I wanted to fuck her and she laughed and said "you're my friend!" I told her about Kenya too since I've heard some women head out there for male escorts but she's didn't want to fly all the way over there. Overall, cool vibe for a place to get a nut out for cheap. I hope they keep growing.

4 x 4 struck me as a. Junior varsity version of HK in Tijuana. Not as much stripping, not as many scams, not as much effort, just a bunch of women hanging out. I saw different women there every time except for once so I couldn't tell you their names. The only girl I saw more than once was a darker skinned slim girl who wore white fishnets and long eye lashes, I know her real name but her stage name escapes me. She was cool and she's flexible with her rules. I ended up taking her up twice and having a pretty passionate experience that I'd call GFE. Lots of interesting talent at 4 x4. I talked to the twins and made out with one of them, they seem super chill but we never sessioned. I was very impressed by the one with a 6-pack. I was telling another American who was trying to decide between her and an hour glass figure girl that he can always get hourglass figure girls but a 6-pack girl will ride him for an hour and how many of us have fucked a girl who actually earned her 6-pack? Saw him another time and he was satisfied. Chatted with the front desk mamasan too, she was telling me that she was headed out on vacation after years of working and I wished her well. The girls' manager is a super chill lady and if you tell her the types of girls you're interested in, she'll help you navigate through them. I tipped her 100 reals on my last night for helping me out for a week. My only advice here and for Dark Room is to avoid the girls who've been in the game for more than a few years, the newer girls seem to enjoy the sex more and aren't faking their moans like it's a porno.

I'm in London now seeing an old-flame who's recently divorced because cumming in a sex starved 34-year old for free for a couple of weeks is more of a GFE experience to me than covering up with yet another 19-year old I'll barely remember. I'm headed off to India soon and then Thailand and Philippines so if you see me in those forums holler at me!

[QUOTE=StevenJones;2733752]The casual pick up scene, is it that easy? I have smattering of Spanish, so how fluent do you have to be?[/QUOTE]Everyone else pretty much covered it, I only converted with that one chick I mentioned, the rest were playing hard to get / playing games so I got tired of wasting all my time sweet talking and just stuck to darkroom and the other centro prives. It is pretty easy to get WhatsApp.

I am completely fluent in Portuguese, in my thirties and in shape, dress well, so as always ymmv. ID say it's exactly like picking up girls in the states, but you have the upper hand because when you say you're in Rio for a year for business, they assume you have lots of money which automatically raises your social value to them, they figure you're not some backpacker staying in a hostel trying to pump and dump them for a week.

But yea, if you have to use a translator to talk to non pros, unless you look like Brad Pitt I'd say it's near impossible and the cost (time) would be greater than the reward. That one chick never let me go raw either, which is the whole point of non pros. I have a lot more success in Colombia.

[QUOTE=QLegal;2735606]I see a lot of old gringos that are completely out of shape, poorly dressed and with no Portuguese trying to pull 20 something locals and it just looks pathetic. And to be honest it is insulting to Brazilian people.
.[/QUOTE]I think what is more embarrassing is not their age or shape but it's insulting to the girl because most gringoes especially the older ones are viewed as sex tourists and you are embarrassing yourself and insulting the girl that she is a GDP working girl. You should know 100% if she is a working girl or not before you approach her if you're a slob.it’s just common sense.

[QUOTE=GringoNumero48;2736049]Hey guys,

I wanted to contribute to this thread since reading through it had provided me so much info when I was in Rio. I stayed for 2 weeks, first in Ipanema and the second week in Lapa. When I was in Lapa, I visited both Dark Room and 4 x4 every night. My routine was always go to Dark Room, get a nut out in a 30 min session and then walk over to 4 x4 and chill there while making out and deciding who to fuck with a clearer head. ... [/QUOTE]Thanks for the 4 x 4 and Dark Room updates.

Just curious as to why only these two places during your week, while in Lapa, with all that downtown Rio has to offer? Or was it simply a matter of convenience?

[QUOTE=Spidy;2736153]Thanks for the 4 x 4 and Dark Room updates.

Just curious as to why only these two places during your week, while in Lapa, with all that downtown Rio has to offer? Or was it simply a matter of convenience?[/QUOTE]It was a few factors for me for me. I checked out a few of the other places around Dark Room and wasn't impressed. 4 x 4 had a lot of Americans and I preferred talking to them over the BS conversations that hookers wanted to engage in. After my second day, I decided that it was a good routine to stick to and I preferred what I was getting from a two known bars / locations than continuously search for new experiences. Next time I come back, I think I'll only stay in Lapa and explore the other opportunities.

[QUOTE=Stef1988;2733823] I must also say that Rio was a very nice city in the past, over 10 years ago. I am not sure if the current government or the Covid situation has caused this bad situation, but Rio has lost some of its beauty and flair to me. Very bad roads and not maintained walking streets. A lot of homeless people. [/QUOTE]Thanks for your report and enjoy reading them.

What puzzles me is the decline in talents Rio scene where girls are traveling to Sao Paulo or other cities to make money.

Rio is so popular with tourists so figure more business can be earned from travelers and gringos.

Rio is special place but bit disappointed with talents compare to Sao Paulo.

If anyone has explanation, feel free to share.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2735845]Was definitely longer than 8 years ago if you are talking about hanging out at Help.[/QUOTE]LOL. Yeah I guess you are right. Made me realize I'm not 39 anymore either.

[QUOTE=GringoNumero48;2736049]Hey guys,

I wanted to contribute to this thread since reading through it had provided me so much info when I was in Rio. I stayed for 2 weeks, first in Ipanema and the second week in Lapa. When I was in Lapa, I visited both Dark Room and 4 x4 every night. My routine was always go to Dark Room, get a nut out in a 30 min session and then walk over to 4 x4 and chill there while making out and deciding who to fuck with a clearer head.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report and especially your MO at 4 x4. I spoke with the owner (or one of the owners) a few years back briefly, and had a few jokes with the mamazan while paying the bill, but it never occurred to me to chat them up. The only thing, I think Spidy is right, Rio is, well, diverse, and you should've taken in more territory than that. But there is always a next trip.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2736047]There is one big difference. In 1993 Garota the Ipanema was very popular among papa-gringos. Lots of girls wanting to hook up with gringos and had sex for free. We used to call them the turma the batata fritas. If you bought them a chop and batata fritas you could be sure to get sex for free.[/QUOTE]Totally true same too if you took them to McDonalds! Happy Days.

-S.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2736282]Thanks for the report and especially your MO at 4 x4. I spoke with the owner (or one of the owners) a few years back briefly, and had a few jokes with the mamazan while paying the bill, but it never occurred to me to chat them up. The only thing, I think Spidy is right, Rio is, well, diverse, and you should've taken in more territory than that. But there is always a next trip.[/QUOTE]Fully agree with you that I should have seen more. I might swing back down there next year. I think if I understood Portuguese, I might have been more adventurous and ventured to more places instead of sticking to a routine.

Is 4 x 4 (Rua Buenos Aires 44) open again. They had a severe fire in late 2019 (three firefighters died). The COVID-19 hit. But it sound like it is open for business again? I will be in Rio in September 2022 for the first time in 4 years.

Obrigado.

[QUOTE=Josht69;2736528]Is 4 x 4 (Rua Buenos Aires 44) open again. They had a severe fire in late 2019 (three firefighters died). The COVID-19 hit. But it sound like it is open for business again? I will be in Rio in September 2022 for the first time in 4 years.

Obrigado.[/QUOTE]Literally 5 posts down you would have seen a fellow member comment about his experience at 4 xv4, that tells me you didn't even try to RTFF.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2734895]It's very easy to make the first move in Brazil, but without Portuguese you are likely going to have a more difficult time. I don't think anyone should get the impression that civilian girls in Brazil are all looking to jump into bed with foreign men. From my experience, Brazil is not as easy as Southeast Asia for making civilian connections.

There are a lot of obvious factors that will impact the probability of success. How young, how attractive and how much game you have will all be factors. Also, the longer you are in Brazil the easier it will be to make civilian connections. This leads me to an often repeated axiom tell the women you will be there for another month even if you are flying home in a few days.

I would not recommend Brazil for a pursuit of strictly non-pros especially with limited language skills. I became chummy with a crew of cool American twentysomethings in my hotel on a Rio trip. They were committed to the pursuit of non-pros. By day two or three with the abundance of pay for play options, they were like "I'm done trying to pick-up girls. I'm going to throw down some cash and get laid."

Go for the pay for play and spend some time chatting up the civilians. Perhaps you will get lucky.[/QUOTE]Cheers Wyatt. I'm sure there will be some P4 P but I do like the chase too! I just don; t like stuck up women so wanted to gauge the state of play. Is the Rio night life scene like Medellin, where you get a night out, dancing drink etc and then a night in with them? Or is it more transactional like the brothels in Lima?

[QUOTE=RioBob;2735070]I like bossa nova at Beco das garrrafas in Copacabana and Vinicius in Ipanema.[/QUOTE]Cheers! Added to the list.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2736058]Everyone else pretty much covered it, I only converted with that one chick I mentioned, the rest were playing hard to get / playing games so I got tired of wasting all my time sweet talking and just stuck to darkroom and the other centro prives. It is pretty easy to get WhatsApp.

I am completely fluent in Portuguese, in my thirties and in shape, dress well, so as always ymmv. ID say it's exactly like picking up girls in the states, but you have the upper hand because when you say you're in Rio for a year for business, they assume you have lots of money which automatically raises your social value to them, they figure you're not some backpacker staying in a hostel trying to pump and dump them for a week.

But yea, if you have to use a translator to talk to non pros, unless you look like Brad Pitt I'd say it's near impossible and the cost (time) would be greater than the reward. That one chick never let me go raw either, which is the whole point of non pros. I have a lot more success in Colombia.[/QUOTE]Cheers dude. It's good to get a feel for the locals, thanks for the info.