Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2216415]Staying at Energy Living. The building and the views are absolutely stunning. The entire building is clean and upscale and you can sense that as soon as you walk in. Had dinner at Carmen in Poblado checked out the street action. Some of these girls are drop dead gorgeous but look way too young and picking up street girls ain't my thing.

So we head over to Gustos around 1130. There was about 20 girls when we walked in.

We decided to get a bottle of whisky for 285 k cop and get the VIP booth in the back. One of my friends is a security guard there so he brought over about a dozen girls and we chatted up a few and danced and enjoyed passing time with some of them.

At around 1 am the place is jamming at least 40 girls many of them drop dead gorgoeous many of them seasoned pros. Based on the feel I got from talking to a few of them.

Once we started to negotiate all the girls were firm on 200 USD. About 5 of them which were the stunners asked for $300.

I settled on a gorgeous tall model type for 200 $ she spent over 14 hours with me we banged 4 x throughout the night.

Tonight it's off to Fase Dos.

BTW. Please don't write posts about how I overpaid etc etc or ruining the market etc. LOL.[/QUOTE]I'm not going to say you overpaid. Because some guys just have to pay more. Be it grossly over weight or for bad teeth and or overall poor hygiene.

But for the rest of the guys out there. Any chick that is quoting you a price in dollars is just trying to rip you off. She has pegged you for an idiot fresh off the boat.

Why would you even have dollars on you? Paying for a taxi is in dollars is a rip off also or anything else.

If a chick asks you to pay in dollars then ask her what the exchange rate is. They don't even know what it is. They just know they are ripping you off by charging more.

I know when you pay 10 to 20 bucks for a table dance in the States which amounts to paying for a hug IMHO, Then paying 200 bucks to get laid seems reasonable. But you can and should shed your pussy worshiping ways.

When you go to FASE 2 take a look at how many guys go up and throw money at the dancers on stage. NONE!

They make the girls come to them and ask for a tip. Usually but naked in front of you and then they give the chicks a 2 mill bill that isn't even worth a dollar. Jajaja.

I'm not saying you should be cheap. Just don't be stupid.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2217853]I'm not going to say you overpaid. Because some guys just have to pay more. Be it grossly over weight or for bad teeth and or overall poor hygiene.

But for the rest of the guys out there. Any chick that is quoting you a price in dollars is just trying to rip you off. She has pegged you for an idiot fresh off the boat.

Why would you even have dollars on you? Paying for a taxi is in dollars is a rip off also or anything else.

If a chick asks you to pay in dollars then ask her what the exchange rate is. They don't even know what it is. They just know they are ripping you off by charging more.

I know when you pay 10 to 20 bucks for a table dance in the States which amounts to paying for a hug IMHO, Then paying 200 bucks to get laid seems reasonable. But you can and should shed your pussy worshiping ways.[/QUOTE]First off Gustos is full of foreigners so we get quoted in dollars when negotiating. I have had 2 girls from there and they quote in usd.

Whoever said I throw money around in Fase Dos?

Yea you probably put the work in to find great deals with girls you consider to be a model type but I don't have that time. I'm here for a couple days want to be in have my fun and leave.

[QUOTE=Queens35;2217562]So what you are saying is that regular women'go to clubs to be anti-social? They don't say Hi?[/QUOTE]To them, that is not being anti-social. If they are there with a group of other Colombians, they are there to be with them, not with you. They would have no reason to say "Hi" to you or make eye contact. Maybe if you say "Hi" first some will return the greeting. Colombia is different. Just like the South and the North in America are very different. Try saying Hi to someone on the streets of New York CIty and then compare it to saying Hi to someone in a small southern town.

[QUOTE=Queens35;2217562]So what you are saying is that regular women'go to clubs to be anti-social? They don't say Hi?[/QUOTE]In the US (assuming you live in the US), how many women in a restaurant or bar will come up to you and say "Hi" without any intention of hanging out with you? Socially, the women in Medellin are probably more reserved than women in the US.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2217888]In the US (assuming you live in the US), how many women in a restaurant or bar will come up to you and say "Hi" without any intention of hanging out with you? Socially, the women in Medellin are probably more reserved than women in the US.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I didnj't know Gustos is a restaurant. How's the food? Pricey? Latin cuisine?

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2217681]I hear you bro. Flights were expensive from Medellin to Rio last time I looked and I don't have a visa yet, but I heard Rio is live in December so I may go this year.[/QUOTE]ITs the government and taxes that ruin it. I could do a two round trip to paris for the price that they charge for rio.

That said it is great. It's better to go right after New Years. The prices are lower and everyone is back from school, but it's not carnival yet. Don't go carnival. Too fucking expensive for no reason and everything is a clisterfuck.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2217798][URL]http://www.candyhousemedellin.com/[/URL]

It is in Manila but they charge 250,000 pesos. I haven't been there but I was intending to go check it out. Good reviews on a local board.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the info. That place is literally 2 blocks from me. However, looking at the pics on the website it looks like all the girls are enhanced. It's a turn off but I may partake since it's so close. I'm also thinking about visiting Jade Palace (jadespapoblado. Co), which is a massage place. It's a 10 min walk from me. Anyone have experience with either place?

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2217869]First off Gustos is full of foreigners so we get quoted in dollars when negotiating. I have had 2 girls from there and they quote in usd.[/QUOTE]Full of foreigners has nothing to do with nothing. Why would a guy from England, Spain, Germany or Brazil need to hear a price in USD? EVERYONE IS IN COLOMBIA! And they invented Colombian Pesos so it could be used as a standard within the borders of that country. If someone ain't telling you the price in local currency then 9.5 times out of 10 you are about to get ripped off. When they tell you a price in USD, tell them that you only have pesos. Get her to give you a price in pesos. She will not even want to say that same price (if by far off chance that she even knows) 600,000 pesos because it even sounds ridiculous to her!

Let's say the average monthly wage where you live is $3000. Imagine if you were back home selling dick. A chick came up to you and asked how much for some dick. You probably could not keep a straight face if you told her $2000. Unless you were a professional hustler, it would be much easier to tell her that same price in a currency that was FOREIGN to you, same as those chicks in Gusto's do. They know mfs in Colombia make 800,000 pesos/month. There is no way they could tell you 600,000 pesos and be serious.

When I go to Tijuana, Mexico the street girls give a price of $20. I say but I have pesos. They say 200 pesos then. At this very moment the exchange rate of USD to Mexican Pesos is 19.08. So when I now pay 200 pesos instead of the $20 originally asked for, I am actually paying $10.48. See how that works?

Nobody is trying to talk down or talk bad. We understand there is a learning curve in mongering and it is just one of the tricks to the trade. Only discuss transactions in local currency.

P.S. This post is in no way meant to tell anyone how they should spend their money. It only serves as mere guidance for those wishing not to be ripped off.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2217869]First off Gustos is full of foreigners so we get quoted in dollars when negotiating. I have had 2 girls from there and they quote in usd.

Whoever said I throw money around in Fase Dos?

Yea you probably put the work in to find great deals with girls you consider to be a model type but I don't have that time. I'm here for a couple days want to be in have my fun and leave.[/QUOTE]Fuck who you want and pay what you want. To hell with everyone who thinks you need their prior approval before sealing a deal. Unless they are the one washing the dick after the deed, they don't get to decide where it goes or what you pay.

However, there's a solution to girls who ask for dollars. Simply tell them you only have pesos. "Lo siento amor. No tengo dolares, solo tengo pesos." Make them do the conversion. Chances are that the $200 will drop to 400 k or 300 k pesos right off the bat. Counter with "Princesa, siempre pago dos cientos mil, mas taxi." She might walk away, but there's a solid chance she'll be back. Tossing in a few nice words helps. Most are quite vain, so they react well to compliments.

If she turns her nose in the air and walks away, you just avoided paying $200 to deal with a bad attitude.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2217869]First off Gustos is full of foreigners so we get quoted in dollars when negotiating. I have had 2 girls from there and they quote in usd.
[/QUOTE]Hearing a price in USD is the clearest sign that one should leave, that the girl is looking at the rich foreigner who, due to lack of information in most cases, is open to pay prices out of the local market (and not for a special service in change).

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2218015] If someone ain't telling you the price in local currency then 9.5 times out of 10 you are about to get ripped off. When they tell you a price in USD, tell them that you only have pesos. Get her to give you a price in pesos. She will not even want to say that same price (if by far off chance that she even knows) 600,000 pesos because it even sounds ridiculous to her!
[/QUOTE]Mr E is spot on! I totally agree with the above. I believe that I get a good experience from a girl, if she has respect for me. A girl who considers me naif enough to be easy to exploit does not have respect for me. Period.

I am not advising to be stingy. To some extent, it is natural that, since an American tourist has a much higher spending capability than a local, he is expected to be "generous". But one thing is being considered generous, another is being considered stupid. I always try to keep that in mind and walk on the thin line, because I like a girl considers me generous (but not stupid).

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2217869]Yea you probably put the work in to find great deals with girls you consider to be a model type but I don't have that time. I'm here for a couple days want to be in have my fun and leave.[/QUOTE]The model types will do TLN for 300-400 k COP. There's no additional work involved than what you did, other than quoting in COP.

[QUOTE=Cruizer21;2217985]Thank you for the info. That place is literally 2 blocks from me. However, looking at the pics on the website it looks like all the girls are enhanced. It's a turn off but I may partake since it's so close. I'm also thinking about visiting Jade Palace (jadespapoblado. Co), which is a massage place. It's a 10 min walk from me. Anyone have experience with either place?[/QUOTE]Candy House appears to be marketing to Colombian professionals. On the local Board, I would say that in 90% of the reports, for safety reasons, the Locals prefer covered BJ. This is probably why natural oral seems to always require a tip in Medellin. So I imagine that in the Candy House if you wanted natural oral then you would have to pay 300,000 pesos for an hour.

One of the apartment girls I was with in Laureles told me she used to work at Jade Palace. She thought she had met me before but I have never been to Jade Palace. She had very average looks but she had good skills. Her photos were fake on the internet. She was not enhanced.

The conflict seems to be whether or not Gustos is a rip-off.

I say let the markets work. If the prices are too high they will soon go out of business. If you read this Board there is plenty of warning. Guys are going there of their own free volition with plenty of information.

From my experience, there is always one high-end club in every South American city that I have visited.

Rio de Janeiro. Barbarella.

Sao Paulo. Cafe Photo now maybe Scandallo.

Lima. Emmanuelle.

Bogota. Lido.

Santiago. Black and White.

Buenos Aires. Black maybe now Dilerio.

They are ripoffs! Close them all!

After reading everyone's opinions it's safe to say both sides have valid points!

I definitely agree with Mr. E in a lot of ways. But I get the other angle. What some would consider a rookie mistake could be I'm OK with it price to others. It's all about supply and demand. He is not the only one willing to pay this price. $200 was fair to him based on the situation he was in. Everyone should have a magic number in their head that they are willing to pay. If $200 is within his number then boom. -$200 USD from his money stashed in his sock. Think of it this way. Girls charge for uncovered Blowjobs. Those prices vary girl to girl. Most locals aren't willing to pay extra for a uncovered blow job. Some foreigners refuse to let a girl touch them without being covered. Others pay what the "think" is standard tip for uncovered, and last you have some girls almost doubling the price and calling it full service. Either way the cost fluctuates and is paid throughout the whole scale. I personally feel $200 usd is a stupid price hahaha but not that he is stupid for spending it!! I think she's stupid for charging it! I'm sure her nightly quota will come a lot faster if she catered to the shoppers price points. Overall, bro you are not stupid for paying it because at the end of the day she's selling her body and gets the luxury of setting her price but. Just know she sets her price higher expecting you to try and negotiate down. When she doesn't budge she probably confident it's going to be a busy night and that someone else (similar to you) will. As it gets later and she has more drinks etc etc and she gets rejected enough for $200 she will soften her demands. Unless someone bites LOL then her standards shoot right back up. In a club like Gustos where she she can't just bang you in the back room, she's thinking about making the most possible per guy. These guys in the board are just saying, she sees you as that goldmine that saves her from banging 6 guys tonight. In her eyes a guy like you makes for an easy Friday night of work. But you on the other hand have enough money to not let that become a bargaining situation. You have the money, you can afford it, and your willing to pay it so there's nothing wrong with it. This argument is subjective. Both win.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2218185]The conflict seems to be whether or not Gustos is a rip-off.

I say let the markets work. If the prices are too high they will soon go out of business. If you read this Board there is plenty of warning. Guys are going there of their own free volition with plenty of information.

From my experience, there is always one high-end club in every South American city that I have visited.

Rio de Janeiro. Barbarella.

Sao Paulo. Cafe Photo now maybe Scandallo.

Lima. Emmanuelle.

Bogota. Lido.

Santiago. Black and White.

Buenos Aires. Black maybe now Dilerio.

They are ripoffs! Close them all![/QUOTE]They are all higher end and rip offs. However Lidos IMO definitely has the hottest girls but even I won't pay those prices. Last time I was there is was 700 k pesos for one hour and 190 k room or exit fee. That's just insane.