Seoul

It looks like I may make another trip to Seoul, and since I have visited a BBS and experienced Itaewon, I would like to try other venues.

I have seen some posts about massage at some hotels and was wondering if all 4/5 star hotels offer the kind of massage we like.

Also, I will visit 588, but have no idea where it is. I could take a taxi, and I guess the driver would know, but I might like to take the subway if it's near a stop.

Any advise is appreciated.

Thanks

[QUOTE=New World Order]In terms of looks, 588 is the place. Overall, at 588, the girls are young, slim, and have great bodies. Its 70,000 for around 20 minutes of fun. You will get a BBBJ.

But if you want GFE, it is a hit or miss.

If you do go to 588, then I recommend that you go between 8pm to 8:30pm. The stores are just opening and the girls are clean, fresh and ready to rumble. lol

The worst times to go is between 1 to 4am. Too many drunken and jealous Korean guys at that time.

What is your price range?[/QUOTE]Once in a while we travel to a place, we need to try everything there including food, place of intrest, and especially the women there. Hehehe

Its actually kind of high in price there, any lower price recommandation (I'm not that rich)? how about massage parlor ? what is the price range there ?

Can we like walk along the 588 place so we can have a look of the gals ? or even take pictures ? At 588, all u get is only the BBBJ ? no FS ? they speak english ? Can't imagine how the place look like... sorry....

I heard that most of the Korean gals have plastic surgeries, most probably the gals at 588 also, right ?

is there anyway that I can contact u when I'm there at Seoul to ask u for help if I have lost during my trip ? just to be more secure.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Tororojo]It looks like I may make another trip to Seoul, and since I have visited a BBS and experienced Itaewon, I would like to try other venues.

I have seen some posts about massage at some hotels and was wondering if all 4/5 star hotels offer the kind of massage we like.

Also, I will visit 588, but have no idea where it is. I could take a taxi, and I guess the driver would know, but I might like to take the subway if it's near a stop.

Any advise is appreciated.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Sorry but I do not know any 4/5 star hotel that offers a massage. I haven't been to Korea in a year. I hope someone else can answer that for you.

Are you Asian? If you are, then 588 will accept you. But if you are a non-Asian, then the girls may or may not accept you.

If you have a Korean friend in Seoul, then I recommend you two to go together.

Here is a website to a subway map. If you are going during rush hour, then I recommend the subway.

[url]http://www.smrt.co.kr/english_smrt/cyberstation_smrt/cyberstation.jsp[/url]

Once in a while we travel to a place, we need to try everything there including food, place of intrest, and especially the women there. Hehehe

[b]What is your most favorite food? Let me know and I will find the address and numbers of a few popular and delicious restaurants in Seoul.[/b]

Its actually kind of high in price there, any lower price recommandation (I'm not that rich)? how about massage parlor ? what is the price range there ?

[b]Massage Parlors range from 100,000 won to 200,000 won.[/b]
[b]The RLD is the cheapest. 70,000 for 20 minutes of fun. This is the rate that locals (Koreans) pay. But it looks like some non-Koreans here were able to get by with the local rate.[/b]

Can we like walk along the 588 place so we can have a look of the gals ? or even take pictures ? At 588, all u get is only the BBBJ ? no FS ? they speak english ? Can't imagine how the place look like... sorry....

[b]Sure, you are free to walk around and check it out. If possible, avoid the times of 1am to 4am. There are a lot of jealous and drunken Korean men who might say a few harsh things to non-Koreans.[/b]

[b]A lot of the pimps hang outside the RLDs and if they see you take a pic of their stores or the girls, you will get in trouble. I think it is best if you go into the room with the girl, and kindly ask her.[/b]

[b]BBBJ and FS are offered at 588. But a GFE is a hit or miss. But the girls are 588 are young and pretty.[/b]

[b]These girls do not speak English. They will probably know only very few simle expressions such as "Hello" "Thank you" "Only one time." "Oh you big." lol"[/b]

[b]Go to the photo section and you will see pictures of 588.[/b]

I heard that most of the Korean gals have plastic surgeries, most probably the gals at 588 also, right ?

[b]Yes, most of the girls have had plastic surgeries. These girls will also wear high heels to make themselves look tall. The blue lights above them also make them look sexier. And they wear push-up bras to make their breasts look bigger and firmer. Marketing and advertising at its best!!! lol [/b]

is there anyway that I can contact u when I'm there at Seoul to ask u for help if I have lost during my trip ? just to be more secure.

[b]I now live and work in New York City, if you want feel free and PM me. I'll do my best and help you. :) [/b]

Thanks

I went to Yongsan last night. I've been going once a month for the past few months. Last night was the best I've seen it in awhile. The "B" row windows were more than half full, and there were probably 7-8 girls I would have taken a chance on. (I am a whitey, by the way.)

First, I did a reconnaissance tour around the place. I make it a rule of thumb not to choose a girl until I've had a look all the way around. I ask prices as I go; last night all of the 4-5 girls I asked said 70,000.

Then I went back to a cutie going with the sweet look. But she wouldn't budge from 70,000, no matter how friendly I was.

So I went on my way and got a second choice for W60,000. Her name was unusual, 근순. I like to "write" a girl's name on her chest, using my finger as a "pencil," to memorize it.

She asked "Condom okay?", as if either way was fine. I'm the type who always uses one, and I'm often surprised that these girls don't insist on it.

She asked me to teach her a couple of English expressions: "Please give me the money" and "Lie down." She was playful and funny before and after sex -- but not during! She wouldn't let me lick her nipples, snuggle up to her neck, smell her hair, etc. Basically, I couldn't do anything with my mouth. It was a turn off. She only allowed missionary, too. Also, she didn't agree to my request to turn down the lights.

Not recommended, unfortunately.

Finally, I didn't see a policeman anywhere in the area.

I am a Seoul local, but am not familiar with the area previously mentioned in posts, Jang Ahn Dong.

Would the poster or other punter provide a subway stop, please?

Thanks in advance.

My previous trip to Seoul was too short but was amazing. Having read the good stuff on this board I was ready to go. When I got there I was like a kid in a candy store. So many choices. Which one to go with first? I took too long to decide and didn't have the time I wanted to spend there so I tried a couple bbs.

The experience was good but not great. Nothing to add beyond what has already been posted. I was in the mood for GFE and some small talk since I was not familiar with the area. Didn't get either with either bbs.

I'm planning on a return trip now. What do people think about lunch time options? RLD? Itaewon? Anma?

And by the way, with all the different options available, do people ever just call an agency to get a girl to come to the hotel?

Thanks bros. This is a great board! Seoul is a great city!

[QUOTE=Vox Jox]I am a Seoul local, but am not familiar with the area previously mentioned in posts, Jang Ahn Dong.

Would the poster or other punter provide a subway stop, please?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
Well, here we go again. Time to recycle a post. And, it's my own. ;-}
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?postid=409846#post409846[/url]

Quick answer: purple line #5, stop #543
Oh, BTW, I think, you need to widen your search parameter. Try 'Jang' vice 'Jang Ahn Dong'. There are different ways to spell the name: Jangandong, Jangahndong, Jang-an Dong, Jang Ahn Dong, Jang An Dong, etc... You get the idea. Good luck...

One final note: it looks like all the Anma's are charging 200K Won for foreigners, whether Asian, European, or American. I guess, they figured that they have to get a specific girl with some English understanding. Sigh...

Seeko

FYI.

O my subway map, it is Janhanpyeong. ( such a easy language, lol )

For all the new people in the area. Remember to negotiate with the adishees on the street. Remember that they also get a commission. The price always starts at 200k, but I have found that they go down to about 100 or 120k depending on time of day, weekend/weekday..

In my opinion, it is best to go to massage parlors around 5 or 6pm.. it is cheapest and they spend more time on yah.... :)


Oh... and 588 is called "Oh - pal - pal" Tell any taxi driver, and he knows. First time to Seoul, I would go to 588 or another RLD. You get to see the girl, then choose.

Peace, stay safe

Poon Hunter

p.s., avoid Itaewon unless there are no other options. It is expensive and the girls are older / ugly. Then again, they speak english!!!!

So happy mongerers.

I arrived in Seoul about 1 month ago for about 18 months.

Due to availability of the spouse there have been limitations to real action.

1st I am kept rather empty - so useless to get into purchased action.

2nd there was not more then a litte to explore due to beeing accompanied mostly.

However I managed to get to yongsan (which wife likes to explore electronics market for hours).

Besides the electronics market I checked the many times described RLD with the windows.

Easy to find. Just in front of the station across the street.

1st surprise: Going there at a Sunday around 4-5 pm I expected almost nothing. But about 20-25% of the windows were on business.

2nd surprise: the quality was much better then expected. One 10 and the others on average 7.5 besides only about real 2 downturns. Did not expect this as I considered the RLD as the bottom end for Seoul (do I need to adjust my scale here?).

Was approached intensively, no hesitation except in the wider street in the middle of the RLD.

Question: Logically according to this bahave, is this what you experts count as the A-Row?

Anyhow the 'A-Row?' was much less busy then the narrow areas around.

I got quoted 7kW or 6kW with the majority quoting 7kW. Some seemed to have 'better english skills' *smile* adding the word 'good service'.

All said that short time is 15 min.

So guys, even if I dont expect much and usually I am willing to pay more for better quality and longer time, I will need to try it at least once. So please some hints. Of course I expect 'very limited' hit or miss and generally a 'no frills' action. But:

- What is the effective average time. Is there a chance to extend the time if I e.g. manage to delay the shot a little, or will they kick you out counting the seconds.

- Will they take off and let you do and act some little, besides the straight missionary?

-Any surprises like requests for more after the curtain has closed or aggresive tip request afterwards?

- Will there come 'options' for additional services.

- Any tip practiced (don't want to upgrade the price level, but also want to behave gentle)

- Better be prepared with my own condoms? (some reported as there would be a choice - brrrrr - don't want to run in a situation that the condoms just run out)

ok that's for the RLD Yongsan questions.

Now for preparation of the anma tour which will then soon follow:
Thanks for all your nice reports and that sometimes somebody recycles the old and valuable ones.

One thing I could not figure out: the base time is rather 2h or more 1h overall?
Further I note that we as foreigners have a chance for entrance to the better ones if we arrive early and not after 10pm when the Koreans start to go, who don't like that we get serviced from the same girls in the same place

How about suturday and sunday. Are this empty days or full days (as the koreans might be blocked by their families). So please guys publish your best timetables.

Thanks for all your help.

I will in return report about my experiences, which will start in about 1 week.

Regards,

Brain666

Just read the thread from Poon Hunter and there is truth in those words - with regards to the Hill. Buyer Beware.

I always WAS a visitor to the Hill but only visited the Nymph Club and this cute little petite beauty named Hee Joo was the only services I preferred. Been going there for a little over a year and even taken her home on a Sat or Sun morning more than a couple of times. Even offered to take some time and teach her some english on the side on weekends. She always seemed the "safest" of Umi and the other younger girls that worked there. Seemed too sweet and the sex was a little above average but worth the $150 or so bucks.

That was until today after reading Poon Hunter's report and returning home from the International Clinic and an appointment with Dr. Kim. I was diagnosed with Genital Warts that I got from the little nymph. And yes I tried to play it safe and see only one girl and still got burnt. All this time and now I got stuck with a 215,000 WON doctor bill and on top of that another 230,000 WON for the lotion and pills to try and get rid of it. Operative word here is try! Dr. Kim said there was a couple of cases from the Hill and asked where I had been. No surprise when he said that the Nymph was another one.

So there is some mean stuff out there and you will get burnt. Condoms will not stop these warts my friends and trust me - you do not want this &%$#.

And for gods sake - don't use Compound W - that crap leaves blisters the size of dimes. See the doc and the sooner you see him the less of an outbreak you will have and the sooner they will be gone (relative term as once you have them - you always have them - according to Dr. Kim) from sight but you will still carry the virus.

So as Poon Hunter said in a couple of post down - "avoid Itaewon unless there are no other options. It is expensive and the girls are older / ugly. Then again, they speak english". Take it to hearty and spend the 400,000 WON and learn some Korean for the RLDs or take your chances in Itaewon.

I for one, will still be reading and enjoying the posts but for the next couple of months I will be sitting this one out and applying the lotion on Mon, Wed, and Fri at the same time time taking these damn horse pills 3 times a day for the next week.

Happy Mongering and stay safe

[QUOTE=Brain666]So happy mongerers.

I arrived in Seoul about 1 month ago for about 18 months.

Due to availability of the spouse there have been limitations to real action.

1st I am kept rather empty - so useless to get into purchased action.

2nd there was not more then a litte to explore due to beeing accompanied mostly.

However I managed to get to yongsan (which wife likes to explore electronics market for hours).

Besides the electronics market I checked the many times described RLD with the windows.

Easy to find. Just in front of the station across the street.

1st surprise: Going there at a Sunday around 4-5 pm I expected almost nothing. But about 20-25% of the windows were on business.

2nd surprise: the quality was much better then expected. One 10 and the others on average 7.5 besides only about real 2 downturns. Did not expect this as I considered the RLD as the bottom end for Seoul (do I need to adjust my scale here?).

Was approached intensively, no hesitation except in the wider street in the middle of the RLD.

Question: Logically according to this bahave, is this what you experts count as the A-Row?

Anyhow the 'A-Row?' was much less busy then the narrow areas around.

I got quoted 7kW or 6kW with the majority quoting 7kW. Some seemed to have 'better english skills' *smile* adding the word 'good service'.

All said that short time is 15 min.

So guys, even if I dont expect much and usually I am willing to pay more for better quality and longer time, I will need to try it at least once. So please some hints. Of course I expect 'very limited' hit or miss and generally a 'no frills' action. But:

- What is the effective average time. Is there a chance to extend the time if I e.g. manage to delay the shot a little, or will they kick you out counting the seconds.

- Will they take off and let you do and act some little, besides the straight missionary?

-Any surprises like requests for more after the curtain has closed or aggresive tip request afterwards?

- Will there come 'options' for additional services.

- Any tip practiced (don't want to upgrade the price level, but also want to behave gentle)

- Better be prepared with my own condoms? (some reported as there would be a choice - brrrrr - don't want to run in a situation that the condoms just run out)

ok that's for the RLD Yongsan questions.

Now for preparation of the anma tour which will then soon follow:
Thanks for all your nice reports and that sometimes somebody recycles the old and valuable ones.

One thing I could not figure out: the base time is rather 2h or more 1h overall?
Further I note that we as foreigners have a chance for entrance to the better ones if we arrive early and not after 10pm when the Koreans start to go, who don't like that we get serviced from the same girls in the same place

How about suturday and sunday. Are this empty days or full days (as the koreans might be blocked by their families). So please guys publish your best timetables.

Thanks for all your help.

I will in return report about my experiences, which will start in about 1 week.

Regards,

Brain666[/QUOTE]I've been to Yongsan a few times. If my experience is any guide, you won't be pushed for a tip, condoms are readily available, and there will be no unpleasant surprises.

Some girls allow positions other than missionary, but others don't.

By the way, I took a look around there tonight. It wasn't as good as I reported in my previous post a week or so back. There were only a couple of girls that I was tempted by.

[QUOTE=Brain666]So happy mongerers.

I arrived in Seoul about 1 month ago for about 18 months.

Due to availability of the spouse there have been limitations to real action.

1st I am kept rather empty - so useless to get into purchased action.

2nd there was not more then a litte to explore due to beeing accompanied mostly.

However I managed to get to yongsan (which wife likes to explore electronics market for hours).

Besides the electronics market I checked the many times described RLD with the windows.

Easy to find. Just in front of the station across the street.

1st surprise: Going there at a Sunday around 4-5 pm I expected almost nothing. But about 20-25% of the windows were on business.

2nd surprise: the quality was much better then expected. One 10 and the others on average 7.5 besides only about real 2 downturns. Did not expect this as I considered the RLD as the bottom end for Seoul (do I need to adjust my scale here?).

Was approached intensively, no hesitation except in the wider street in the middle of the RLD.

Question: Logically according to this bahave, is this what you experts count as the A-Row?

Anyhow the 'A-Row?' was much less busy then the narrow areas around.

I got quoted 7kW or 6kW with the majority quoting 7kW. Some seemed to have 'better english skills' *smile* adding the word 'good service'.

All said that short time is 15 min.

So guys, even if I dont expect much and usually I am willing to pay more for better quality and longer time, I will need to try it at least once. So please some hints. Of course I expect 'very limited' hit or miss and generally a 'no frills' action. But:

- What is the effective average time. Is there a chance to extend the time if I e.g. manage to delay the shot a little, or will they kick you out counting the seconds.

- Will they take off and let you do and act some little, besides the straight missionary?

-Any surprises like requests for more after the curtain has closed or aggresive tip request afterwards?

- Will there come 'options' for additional services.

- Any tip practiced (don't want to upgrade the price level, but also want to behave gentle)

- Better be prepared with my own condoms? (some reported as there would be a choice - brrrrr - don't want to run in a situation that the condoms just run out)

ok that's for the RLD Yongsan questions.

Now for preparation of the anma tour which will then soon follow:
Thanks for all your nice reports and that sometimes somebody recycles the old and valuable ones.

One thing I could not figure out: the base time is rather 2h or more 1h overall?
Further I note that we as foreigners have a chance for entrance to the better ones if we arrive early and not after 10pm when the Koreans start to go, who don't like that we get serviced from the same girls in the same place

How about suturday and sunday. Are this empty days or full days (as the koreans might be blocked by their families). So please guys publish your best timetables.

Thanks for all your help.

I will in return report about my experiences, which will start in about 1 week.

Regards,

Brain666[/QUOTE]Dear Brain,

In nearly forty years of life here on planet earth, I've got to say that some of my fondest memories yet are of the Yongsan RLD. Plain and simple, it's not paradise, but it's offered me some wonderful short times.

Honest to God, I think back across 37-plus years, remembering the good times, remembering the bad, and it's the blessed intervals spent stalking Yongsan's back alleys which come back to me as most precious. I enjoyed so many beautiful, gracious, kind, delectable women there! A few were not so friendly. Never mind. The memories all balance out very, very solidly on the good side.

As something of a veteran (without meaning to boast, by any means), may I comment and advise as follows?:

Your best bet for genuinely "good service" is to find a woman you like and go back to her again.

The first time round, she may be strictly business. She may even set an alarm clock to go off after the regulated 15 minutes. After which, that's it: you're done.

The second time you visit her, she'll recognize you. She'll be flattered that you returned to HER, when you had so many other options.

Things may well get GFE from that moment forward.

I've tried out this approach down here in Busan and have found myself going from strength to strength!

Believe me: With each return visit you are more and more appreciated. You're treated better each time. It's so very simple!

Important tip for the second or third visit: a small gift will work wonders.

I emphasize the word "small."

On my own last visit to a semi-regular provider here, I had in hand a three- or four-dollar little box of candies which I'd picked up at a local convenience store on the way over.

It was carefully chosen: gold-paper-wrapped, with a bow (evidently meant for Valentine's Day--which in Korea is a day when GALS give gifts to men, not vice versa--but never mind).

She seemed really touched. As intended, this very small and very inexpensive gift simply said, "Thanks. You've helped me. I want to acknowledge that. Here's a freewill offering in recognition of what you've done for me."

And just that suddenly, it wasn't just GFE. It was almost HONEYMOON experience. (Lots of unrestrained French kissing, general uninhibitedness in bed--you get the idea.)

Sorry to sound penny-pinching and money-fixated (it's all a matter of perspective, may I add), but for THREE OR FOUR DOLLARS!

Moral: Find your gal, GO BACK to her on a regular basis, take an occasional small gift, and see if this routine doesn't work wonders.

We've gotta play the feminine psychology, mates.

SS

So dear Friends,

after reading your reports I decided to do my first own experience.

Hesitating for Yongsan RLD the first experience should have some higher probability to be a success. So after so many positive reports I decided for the more expensive way to try the Paradise Anma in Yeoksam.

The way: As described already from Yeoksam Station take exit 8 and follow the street uphill. Turn the 1st road left and the third road right (which is a small road). The paradise sauna is the first and most illuminated house right side of the road. The house has two upper floors. The windows are illuminated framed (blue and pink). The parking lot has red and green illumination.

The house walls have a brick type surface. A massage and sauna sign is in red. Nothing to read 'paradise' in readable letters. Entrance is from the front or from the side.

I checked that I was right (i hope). Went to the front entrance turn left and to the counter. Asked if this is called paradise and they said: Yes.

No problem at all for acceptance. Little English communication. They quoted 200 kW (20 k more then in the other posts). I did not want to negotiate.

They asked if shoe cleaning was ok, asked me to use the slipper and lead me to an upper floor in a smaller then expected room. It took about 3 minutes until the girl arrived. Peng an or so was the name. she said she was 25 years later. Height 1,63 m small breasts (B-cup) but nice overall body. Rating: An 8- in looks.

Due to my first anma visit I let her proceed her course. After taking all clothes off she started with washing. Took about 8-10 min. Asked me to brush teeth.

Then was led to the bed while she washed herself. Came to the bed did a 1 min blow job and then asked me to lay down with face down.

She spread some hot soap/ oil on my back and started to massage my body with her breast. Continued to do it with her tongue. Asked me then to turn and did the same with the front. Breast massage, tongue licking and pussy massage from front view and rear view.

After that she started a BBBJ. Never the best ever I had but on the better side. Blow job also in 69 position and no hesitation for DATY.

She mentioned something from 'very big' (Remark: I am normal European sized). While in 69 she managed to put on the condom but struggled as the cover did just cover slightly more then half my stick. I said don’t worry it will work. She then tried to put him in with the ass to me, but struggled to do it. Finally said apologising: to big.

I said again: don't worry it will fit and took her missionary very carefully. Slow entrance and little by little a bit more. I noticed that she felt pain and was as well very afraid. I am not the type who really enjoys this situation, so I did not further change positions and managed to come after about 4-5 minutes.

She must have noticed that this was a bit less then usual and asked with doubt: Service ok? I said (lying): yes. She washed me again and then we took on clothes. The Tel was also ringing 1 Time (after 1h service time) as a kind of hint. The overall action performance I would rate not higher then 7 max. 7.5.

In total my first Paradise anma experience was a bit below expectation, considering that the price was on the high side. Maybe I just was not in Luck with the girl, but while I would have had not much expectations in Yongsan, here I expected more following the previous posts.

If I get similar performance for about 120 kW in Janhanpeong I would be happy with it, but for 200kW its not enough.

So let's see what I do next.

Good night,

Brain666