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[QUOTE=Penbelly]Actually, the 'Different strokes for different folks comment' is right on. There are some people who NEED to believe that they are accomplishing something great in G-clubs or hitting on TG's in department stores as opposed to bar girls. Why? I have no idea. Maybe the sex isn't as good with a hooker for them because of some psychological hangup. Then there are people like me-total horndogs who even after hundreds and hundreds of allnighters still get jelly-kneed when ANY good-looking babe's little ass pops out of her jeans. [/QUOTE]

It's always been different strokes for different folks. I can appreciate that some like the Go-Go bar scene, since there are no major surprises in terms of what you are getting physically. However, I don't think the girls in the Go-Go's have better bodies than the girls in any other type of venue. Just less guess work. The Soapy's, G-Clubs, Beer Bars, Oil Massage joints, etc. all have their share of incredible bodies and hot woman. They all have their pluses and minuses, but in the end, it's all good. I love the Go-Go's, but like variety too.

I will mix in G-Clubs, because they are fun. You get to meet some hot woman that you may not have seen, somewhere else. It does not matter where they worked before. Fact is, during any given visit, that girl may only have been found there. If you meet one gem, who cares where you found her or what you spent. As long as you had fun. No psychological hangups involved. I'm a total horndog too, so I like to mix it up. Oil massage, Beer Bar, Soapy, Go-Go, Soi 33 bar, Nightclub and G-Club. I have done the cycle many times in BKK and never regretted it. Keep in mind, you don't need to spend more than 3k baht to get phone numbers at a G-Club. After that, you meet up with the girl over the course of your vacation and return trips in some cases. Very small price to pay for more good times.

I think the best advice for any newbie is to try everything and find out for yourself. Every post is just one man's opinion and you eventually need to come up with your own, which is the only one that will count to you in the end. We all have preferences and you will need to find the places that meet yours.

Having said all of that, I would like to add, welcome to the BKK thread. The summary was a good idea. Maybe adding a few examples and some favorites, might be a nice addition too. I have been accumulating some notes to post, in line with your general idea. A bit of a work in progress. More in terms of venues first and a basic overview of some of the more well known examples along with websites when available. Some generalizations of the types of girls and as we all know, generalizations are always dangerous and full of holes. Just a starting point.

I just want to mention that you may be causing a lot of collateral damage, in the process of defending yourself, since you could be trashing other innocent bystanders in the process. Or at least their tastes.

Peace,
AT2

[QUOTE=Daddy07]Actually the word used is "adjunctive," not "injunctive," a big difference. However, your point is well taken in that the ad also says that their product: "Helps prevent cancer development," a highly suspicious claim.[/QUOTE]

Damn, you're right -- it does say adjunctive, though "adjunctive" is an even stranger word choice. According to Webster:

"something joined or added to another thing but not essentially a part of it"

I'd treat the whole list not just as suspicious, but bogus. If it was actually effective in any of these things, drug companies would have isolated the active ingredients and turned them into a real drugs by now. Its not like ginseng is a secret they never heard of.

Seems like a lot of money to pay for placebo effect.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Korean people in Australia are importing it and believe they are getting the good (real) stuff.

Are you saying that the stuff available in Thailand will be fake, even if its in the identical box saying manufactured in Korean Ginseng Corporation (Republic of Korea)?[/QUOTE]


No, I'm not saying it's fake, just not the best available in Korea. It's commercial quality as the Koreans will pay a fortune for the best Ginseng. There are stories of rich Koreans paying hundreds of thousand Won for one root. Especially if they are sick or dying. Story I heard was about a dying Korean gentleman paying over $100,000 for the best Ginseng to keep him alive long enough to get his affairs in order before he departed this dear earth for his heavenly rewards.

Now, what do I know about Ginseng; only what I've heard or read. Tried some Ginseng whiskey in Korea once and puked. Tasted like mud.

Hi,

Can you tell me please a nice place in Bangkok with Coyote dancers sexy show?

Best regards from Spain.

NOTE TO NEWBIES (LIKE ME): This post does not provide any info on Bangkok; it is just an introduction of me to the veterans, followed by some queries. If you are looking for valuable reports/info you should skip this post and wait for replies, thus saving yourself some valuable time.

Dear BKK Gurus,

Thanks for all the great tips; I feel I have visited Bangkok already even though I'm still expecting to be very happily surprised when I get there in three days.

I just turned 27 and suddenly feel that the "good years" have slipped through my fingers, as I was more of the "shy" type pretty much since adulthood. (i.e. very little sexual experience)

Half panicking and half thanking the powers of this world that I realized this young enough (I have no present commitments, etc...), I decided to take a chance and escape!

So here I am with my booked air-ticket in hand (since this morning), credit cards in pockets, and of course some cash to spend on the local talent.

Other than this forum which I spent the last 5 hours reading, starting from reports dated around February 2008 (yes i am lonely bust mostly want to make the most of my 5 day escapade in Bangkok), I know NOTHING of Thailand nor Bangkok. I therefore kindly ask you 3 days before my departure to fill in any of the missing info/gaps/enquiries mentioned below:

1) I am thinking of the Majestic Grande as my Headquarters there, but I am worried of the fact that they have only two elevators for 251 rooms (I don't want to be stuck in the lift with three girls wrapped in my arms, stopping at each floor with other guests feeling uncomfortable (families, children, etc...). I need a very clean (especially bed sheets and toilet) hotel with price range of max 3,500baht/night with good location near Sukhumvit. Any definitive suggestions in this regard? Please bear in mind that reception needs to allow more than 1 guest at a time (yes, I have some catching up to do)

2) I should be close to NEP, Soi Cowboy, and Patpong (reasonably), but I have heard good feedback on Pattaya. What's the best option to go there and how many days out of 5 should I spend there in your opinion, comparing it to Bangkok.

3) I have learned that social venues used to close at 1:00am since some years now but gradually some are staying open up to 2:00am... confirm? anything longer?

4) Soapies sound like a very attractive service, but different reports insinuate different additional services included. Is it rude to directly ask the management of the Parlor of what is included beforehand? is it strictly up to the chose lady? is FS "always" an option as long as the price is right?

5) What is the availability of taxis or moto's around 1-2-3am? I am assuming most of the girls would accept riding in a cab with a stranger...

6) Is filming/photographing scenes in public (street, bars, clubs etc...) allowed or might entail complications?

7) How "long" is LT in average? for “extra” LT (2-3 days), should you pay the lucky candidate before hand? gradually? at the end?

8) And finally, would it be difficult to talk the girls into wearing very specific (newly purchased) lingerie? Any recommendations on where to find such garments?


Hoping that you are still reading my purely inquisitive post, please accept my apologies if some of my questions may seem irrelevant or plainly boring.

However, any recommendations concerning the above would be greatly appreciated, and please feel free to add any suggestion that you think may be useful with regard to my background info.

Thanks in advance,

Feeling like a kid again at Christmas Eve,

JH

Jay,

I will share my opinions on a few of your questions:

1) I am thinking of the Majestic Grande as my Headquarters there, but I am worried of the fact that they have only two elevators for 251 rooms (I don't want to be stuck in the lift with three girls wrapped in my arms, stopping at each floor with other guests feeling uncomfortable (families, children, etc...). I need a very clean (especially bed sheets and toilet) hotel with price range of max 3,500baht/night with good location near Sukhumvit. Any definitive suggestions in this regard? Please bear in mind that reception needs to allow more than 1 guest at a time (yes, I have some catching up to do)

There are many good places to stay, but I would suggest Livingstones Lodge, here is a link on this site this site where you can find out more about Livingstones:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=754[/url]

The layout of the place elimates the elevator concerns and you can get a room for less than 3,500 baht.

I have stayed there on more than one occasion and can not wait to visit again.

2) I should be close to NEP, Soi Cowboy, and Patpong (reasonably), but I have heard good feedback on Pattaya. What's the best option to go there and how many days out of 5 should I spend there in your opinion, comparing it to Bangkok.

I have never been to Pattaya yet. If this is your first visit and you have a limited number of days on this trip, like a week or less, then be careful about wasting time traveling to other areas, enjoy Bangkok!

3) I have learned that social venues used to close at 1:00am since some years now but gradually some are staying open up to 2:00am... confirm? anything longer?

Closing as a general rule of thumb is 2am.

4) Soapies sound like a very attractive service, but different reports insinuate different additional services included. Is it rude to directly ask the management of the Parlor of what is included beforehand? is it strictly up to the chose lady? is FS "always" an option as long as the price is right?

Do some research at this site.

5) What is the availability of taxis or moto's around 1-2-3am? I am assuming most of the girls would accept riding in a cab with a stranger...

If you meet a young lady and both of you decide to go somewhere, yes they will travel in a cab with you.

6) Is filming/photographing scenes in public (street, bars, clubs etc...) allowed or might entail complications?

I do not know about this?

7) How "long" is LT in average? for “extra” LT (2-3 days), should you pay the lucky candidate before hand? gradually? at the end?

I understand "LT" it to mean overnight.

8) And finally, would it be difficult to talk the girls into wearing very specific (newly purchased) lingerie? Any recommendations on where to find such garments?

Get the lingerie as a gift and I would think the girl would be happy to wear it!

Good luck and have fun.

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Hi

Could some one PM me if you know this.
Need to ask some test results from the girls....

John

[QUOTE=Jay Hodge]I just turned 27 and suddenly feel that the "good years" have slipped through my fingers, as I was more of the "shy" type pretty much since adulthood. (i.e. very little sexual experience)[/QUOTE]Hi there,

I am not very experienced in BKK to answer all your questions, but I assure you age wise you will not have a problem. Maybe on Soi33, but otherwise it should be an asset. Just be a gentleman, and take resonable precautions. Whenever I travel I leave everything in the hotel safe, I only keep enough money in local currency in my pocket to cover twice the cost of any excursion I plan and the hotel key, thats it. Maybe my monger phone, or my N95 depending on circumstaces. Beware of guys (thai or foriegn) on the street or in a girlie bar who approaches you or tries to counsel you (it is too general a thing to say, but I have heard a few stories, better to be safe, in fact my first time was approached by a fairly young french guy as part of that one day only gem stone sale scam). I don't think it was NicF as far as I imagine!

There is a very extensive guide on massage parlors by micklicker in word format on these forums, as well as by giotto. Search for 'Soapy MP list. Doc'

There is also word document (I don't know exactly where, but a search should bring it up) by mick which is a table listing of all the massage parlors which makes a handy guide called 'Bangkok List of MPs with maps and web links' I have v2 and have used it often to see what is near or how to get to some place or price, etc.

The hotel thread has all the answers and first timers are well advised to stay at one of the already reviewed places. Haven't stayed at Majestic so could not tell you about being stuck in elevators or if they have an issue with three or four; I don't think there should be an issue. Am pretty sure some of the other monger friendly places such as Dynasty Grande would not have a problem. At your budget staying at Livingstones Lodge is also an option, especially since you are a newbie and though it is a bit far from NEP is a nice easy place to get off mongering in BKK with no issues, 'cause you know they cater to us.

For 5 days a trully committed horn dog monger would stay either only in BKK or Pattaya; experienced guys would know better, but picking up and moving just for mongering too much of a hassle. But, then again, I never travel light! So I tend to stick in one hotel. I mean you could wake up to a nice morning session with your overnighter, after breakfast head over to Eden for a porn star experience and appetite builder for lunch, rest, relax, shop, sight see a little and then go for a soapy or massage, and later hit the clubs after a nice dinner and this wouldn't get old over a period of 5 days.

Your first trip, especially to a new location, and such a nice touristy place like BKK does invoke the thought of having a beautiful Thai GFE for a long time period, especially to be a partner in sightseeing, eating, etc. But by my experience it is though to develop that your first time and in 5 days. The WGs we normally meet at these venues aren't exactly gf material most of the times, and don't get around much in BKK themselves, so are not great tour guides, as well their english skill vary widely. Also, why restrict yourself, because the girl is not exactly going to help you pick up additional chicks with whom to have fun with (which it seems to me is your prime goal), and most working girls you will meet have other commitments as well and would also not want to be tied down to one guy, even if they like you, especially if you were going to be leaving soon. IMHO, But others could comment better on this.

Lastly, all girls working or otherwise don't mind presents, especially lingerie. I am sure this would not be an issue, and there are plenty of options in BKK shopping malls from la perla to street vendors!

Have fun, stay safe, and do report back.

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[QUOTE=Jay Hodge]NOTE TO NEWBIES (LIKE ME):

Dear BKK Gurus,
However, any recommendations concerning the above would be greatly appreciated, and please feel free to add any suggestion that you think may be useful with regard to my background info.

Thanks in advance,

Feeling like a kid again at Christmas Eve,

JH[/QUOTE]

Politely suggest you send in your $$ to Jackson, so that you can receive PM. I'm sure you'll get more suggestions for your coming visit. Enjoy :)

JH,

See my responses below.

[QUOTE=Jay Hodge]
1) I am thinking of the Majestic Grande as my Headquarters there, but I am worried of the fact that they have only two elevators for 251 rooms (I don't want to be stuck in the lift with three girls wrapped in my arms, stopping at each floor with other guests feeling uncomfortable (families, children, etc...). I need a very clean (especially bed sheets and toilet) hotel with price range of max 3,500baht/night with good location near Sukhumvit. Any definitive suggestions in this regard? Please bear in mind that reception needs to allow more than 1 guest at a time (yes, I have some catching up to do)
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Not something you should worry about, but if you are really that concerned, try Livingstones Lodge on Sukhumvit Soi 33. It's a mongerers hotel, with girls on premises, so there's no chance you will need to worry about feeling uncomfortable. Other options would be Majestic Suites near Nana Plaza (Sukhumvit Soi 4), Dynasty Inn Grande (Sukhumvit Soi 6), or S15 on Sukhumvit Soi 15. They have limited traffic and are generally hotels used by guys on the hunt.

[url=https://majesticsuites.com/index.html]Majestic Suites Hotel website[/url]
[url=http://www.dynastygrande.com/]Dynasty Inn Grande Hotel website[/url]
[url=http://www.s15hotel.com/]S15 Hotel website[/url]
[url=http://www.livingstones.co.th/]Livingstones website[/url]

[QUOTE=Jay Hodge]
2) I should be close to NEP, Soi Cowboy, and Patpong (reasonably), but I have heard good feedback on Pattaya. What's the best option to go there and how many days out of 5 should I spend there in your opinion, comparing it to Bangkok.
[/QUOTE]

Impossible question to answer, since this one is based on taste. I personally hate Pattaya and would stay away from it. Some others stay primarily in Pattaya and hate Bangkok. Some like to mix it up. Pattaya has a higher sleaze factor to me, but is cheaper. Why not spend the 1st day in Bangkok, the 2nd day in Pattaya, then plan the rest of the stay based on your 1st hand experiences.

You don't need to book your entire hotel stay in advance, other than your 1st night in either place. There are so many hotel options, I really don't think you need to lock in so early. Just log on to the internet as needed, to pull this website up and view the hotel thread if you get stuck. If you find Pattaya is your thing, extend your hotel stay. If you don't like it, book a room back in Bangkok before you leave Pattaya. Keep a list of hotels handy, in case extending is a problem.

Part of me, says you should just stay in BKK, since you only have 5 days. Get to know the city and then next time try Pattaya. There's a lot of ground you should cover and 5 days is not much. Soapy's, Go-Go's, Oil Massage joints, Beer Bars, Night Clubs, G-Clubs, Freelancers, Thermae, Eden Club, etc. etc. etc.

[QUOTE=Jay Hodge]
3) I have learned that social venues used to close at 1:00am since some years now but gradually some are staying open up to 2:00am... confirm? anything longer?
[/QUOTE]

Most are open till 2:00am these days, but always subject to change. There are also after hours spots, also subject to change, and they run till about 4:00am (E.g. Spice Club at the Ambassador). There are also many smaller beer bars, which will "close" at 1:00am or 2:00am, but with a few patrons still inside. The bar appears to be closed from the outside, but the regulars are still inside having a good time (E.g. Small bars farther down Soi 4 and on Soi 6). There are also a few 24/7 oil massage places, if you need some after hours company (E.g. Sabai Sabai on Soi 11). There are also many many girls hanging outside of Nana Plaza after 2:00am and up and down the main drag between Sukhumvit Soi 4 and Soi 15, during the late night\early morning. This street action goes on every night and centers around the food carts. Drinking, eating, etc. but you will need to get past your shyness. Hopefully, you will already have a girl for the night by 2:00am.

[QUOTE=Jay Hodge]
4) Soapies sound like a very attractive service, but different reports insinuate different additional services included. Is it rude to directly ask the management of the Parlor of what is included beforehand? is it strictly up to the chose lady? is FS "always" an option as long as the price is right?
[/QUOTE]

Not sure what reports you have been reading. FS is always included in the Soapy price (All inclusive pricing). BJ's are also pretty standard service, along with the nice pre-sex bath before the main course. Anal and other services should be discussed with the managers. Never hesitate to ask questions if in doubt, but do your homework (pricing, etc.) before you go. The Soapy slide on the mattress is also not standard, so ask, if that's what you are interested in. With the oil massage places like Tulip and Angel, FS is not included in the massage fee of 400 to 600 baht, so bear that in mind. You can get FS at Tulip and Angels for an additional 1,500 baht to the girl.

[QUOTE=Jay Hodge]
5) What is the availability of taxis or moto's around 1-2-3am? I am assuming most of the girls would accept riding in a cab with a stranger...
[/QUOTE]

Taxi's are not a problem. More taxi's than you will ever need, any time of the day. The biggest problem is actually during the rush hours, when the city get's into gridlock mode. Taxi's will only want to travel a few blocks, during this time and will not take people to certain parts of town (waste of gas, not worth their time). Sorry, but I had to chuckle at the "riding in a cab with a stranger" question. Dude, they are going to your hotel to screw your brains out .. and the taxi ride is going to be an issue? Hmmmm, I think not.

[QUOTE=Jay Hodge]
6) Is filming/photographing scenes in public (street, bars, clubs etc...) allowed or might entail complications?
[/QUOTE]

See the photo thread and YouTube, and that should answer your question. I would just suggest that you be cool about it. I don't think too many guys would appreciate being photograhed, so try to keep them out of the picture.

[QUOTE=Jay Hodge]
7) How "long" is LT in average? for “extra” LT (2-3 days), should you pay the lucky candidate before hand? gradually? at the end?
[/QUOTE]

LT (Long Time) is generally from the time you take them out from the bar, till morning. Some stretch it to noon, but that's getting rarer. Honestly, for me, I'm usually sending them on their way just after breakfast. I want to move on to new things, the next day. You can extend if you wish, by barfining the girl again or if she's a freelancer, working out the terms with her. Since you are "making up for lost time", tying yourself down to one girl seems like it would be counterproductive to your goal.

[QUOTE=Jay Hodge]
8) And finally, would it be difficult to talk the girls into wearing very specific (newly purchased) lingerie? Any recommendations on where to find such garments?
[/QUOTE]

Not hard at all, but my preference is to have them in the shower or tub with me and just a towel on, before the action starts.

Peace,
AT2

Jh

Hotels. Up to you.

3) I have learned that social venues used to close at 1:00am since some years now but gradually some are staying open up to 2:00am. Confirm? Anything longer?

Some stay open longer, some do not. But really, at 1am you should be deep into various wet holes, not drinking. You can drink at home. Why go to Bangkok to drink late?

4) Soapies sound like a very attractive service, but different reports insinuate different additional services included. Is it rude to directly ask the management of the Parlor of what is included beforehand? Is it strictly up to the chose lady? Is FS "always" an option as long as the price is right?

Soapies, the price paid includes FS. If you so wish you may give an extra tip to the girl in her hand at the end, 500B is sufficient, but only if you have a good time. If its just normal or average, then no extra tip is needed.

5) What is the availability of taxis or moto's around 1-2-3am? I am assuming most of the girls would accept riding in a cab with a stranger.

No problems,

6) Is filming/photographing scenes in public (street, bars, clubs etc.) allowed or might entail complications? Street no problem, most bars and clubs have "No Photo" signs. This is to protect their customers, like me. I do not want a photo of me, taken by you, appearing anywhere. So please respect that in clubs and bars. NO PHOTOS.

7) How "long" is LT in average? For "extra" LT (2-3 days), should you pay the lucky candidate before hand? Gradually? At the end?

LT refers to "overnight" as in she sleeps with you and leaves in the morning.

Payment is always made at the end, never pay up front. If you take a girl for a few days then I would suggest waiting all until the end.

8) And finally, would it be difficult to talk the girls into wearing very specific (newly purchased) lingerie? Any recommendations on where to find such garments?

They are at your service and will wear anything you want. Its best to ask them where to buy, they will take you to places like Central or Robinson where you can find most things you want.

Enjoy

It amazaes me how so many of you can spend so much time talking abut yourselves and each other and so little time actually discussing the relevant topic, i.e. mongering.

[QUOTE=Jay Hodge]8) And finally, would it be difficult to talk the girls into wearing very specific (newly purchased) lingerie? Any recommendations on where to find such garments?
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I also have a thing about lingerie, definitely more of a turn-on than a girl just whipping off her clothes or wearing a towel -- to me at least. In my experience, they generally are a bit surprised and amused by the idea of wearing the lingerie. It's something different, definitely feminine, the kind of thing they've probably mainly seen in movies. So nearly every girl I've done that with has been into it, even. It makes for an interesting daytime errand, going to shop for the lingerie, imagining how a girl you spotted at some go go would look in this particular item, or that one.

With just 5 days, I'd tend to stay mainly in one place. The idea below is good, stay in BKK first nite, then down to PTY the next just to get a taste, then choose. Keep in mind it takes a few hrs to get from BKK to PTY. Both have an overwhelming set of choices, especially for that short a time, so you can't really go wrong.



[QUOTE=Jay Hodge]5) What is the availability of taxis or moto's around 1-2-3am? I am assuming most of the girls would accept riding in a cab with a stranger.[/QUOTE]

I'd say at 1-2-3am you will have a really tough time finding a girl who WOULDN'T accept riding in a cab with a stranger. ;-)

[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]JH,

See my responses below.
....................... There are also many many girls hanging outside of Nana Plaza after 2:00am and up and down the main drag between Sukhumvit Soi 4 and Soi 15, during the late night\early morning. This street action goes on every night and centers around the food carts. Drinking, eating, etc. but you will need to get past your shyness. Hopefully, you will already have a girl for the night by 2:00am....................

Peace,
AT2[/QUOTE]

It's funny, but in all my visits to BKK, I have never been inclined to go up and down the even Soi side. Probably because I have never seen many freelancers on that side. The odd side is always crowded. So is there a scene on the odd Soi side? Is it any better? And between what Soi numbers?

[QUOTE=Duniawala]It's funny, but in all my visits to BKK, I have never been inclined to go up and down the even Soi side. Probably because I have never seen many freelancers on that side. The odd side is always crowded. So is there a scene on the odd Soi side? Is it any better? And between what Soi numbers?[/QUOTE]

Late at night between Soi 4 and up to Soi 8 at the most but usually not that far... maybe to landmark or so... there are usually some FL but it is after nana closes for the most part has been my experience. This is from when I was staying off of soi 8 for a while.

Some gem's IMHO... girls late at night looking for a pick up, lower cost, not as hard core for the most part but you have your hard core in there too. Usually part timers needing some extra cash. Soi 3 to Soi 11 or so you got a lot of FL during day and night but no real FL during day time on the even side between Soi 8 and Soi 4.

Again this is from beginning of the year when I was staying in that area for a long time. Could have changed recently.