Phnom Penh

[QUOTE=Doppel One]
I am, shall we say, a man of the world. I've fucked hundreds of girls on five different continents, not all pay4play and in my time I've had real relationships for my sins. I've fucked cat walk models, actresses, a lot of 8s, 9s, possibly even the occasional 10. But quite often when I find myself alone and in the mood to jerk off I lie back and allow the movie I have inside my head featuring sexual encounters to roll forward. I start off thinking of all the gorgeous 8s, 9s and the 10s I've fucked over the years but invariably, in order to really turn myself on my mind drifts back to that dilapidated brothel knocking the stuffing out of the 18 stone mamasan with the other two girls licking my balls and ass as the crowd cheered. Oh yes, a bit of 'seed'. You can't beat it in my book![/QUOTE]I can definitely agree with you on that. Seems like I better make it my business to get to Cambodia.

[QUOTE=Hummer Bird]This information was passed down from many many different conversations w/ ex-patriots.[/QUOTE]These tend to be highly exaggerated. I wouldn't really rely on them. I was there quite a few times and never had a problem. Things like HIV, drugs, etc, are endemic problems that often go with prostitution.

Anyway, as a monger you need to search under every stone. I would not limit myself to just club experiences if I travel that far already, especially since you can find clubs about everywhere. It gets a little boring and superficial after a while. Chicken farms are quite specific to Cambodia and is a different experience. I would not call it better or worse, just different, and certainly way cheaper, which means you can just try out without much loss if you suspect a girl can be a good shot. Of course it can get very seedy and somewhat dangerous, but if you take reasonable precautions, should not be a problem. The attraction is not the seediness itself, but the fact that sometimes when you dig under much mud you do find pearls. Over time it can become associated with seediness but that part is not what is important.

Went back to Candy Bar twice one day and had one girl sitting with me. She was a bit older, not a 9 or 10, perhaps a 6, however as she was stroking my little fellow for all that time and was open to tongue-kissing and all that, I finally decided to take her long time. We agreed on 30 USDs until morning.

I stayed at the Paragon which is convenient but a bit of a turn-off that they close the outer gate at midnight which makes coming back late or going out after that time a bit inconvenient. Both the guard and the receptionist have to be woken up - GF hotel but not too accommodating in that sense.

Well, the time with the gal was really disappointing - no BJ, no penetration cuz the old "You too big" story which is bullock, no GFE when falling asleep and then at the wee hours of the night the "can I leave now" whining started. Finally, at 6 I had enough and let her go.

Went to some other bars another night, but many girls don't seem much interested in being barfined. They sit with you, talk, joke, a bit of fondling perhaps, but otherwise no indication of any sexual activity that might be on the menu later on.

Is this all the result of the crackdowns?

The Paragon is a fairly decent hotel and it has a great location, but I would not consider it monger-friendly, rather monger-tolerant - not even sure how long that might last as some hotels are already stating on their website that they do NOT welcome sex-tourists ...

Went to the Walkabout one early evening. Not too many people around but quite a few girls, some of them quite attractive. Lots of exchanging glances but almost no girl came over or made the first step - again very different to Thailand.

Finally briefly spoke to one who seemed to have a nice sexy body. Her English appeared to be better than average. She said she would do everything, whatever that might mean ;-) But would not quote me a price.

How do things work at the Walkabout? Are they all freelancers? What are reasonable rates? What do the girls offer - I am asking this as the one from Candy would not even give a BJ, which I consider almost minimum when going with a P4P-chick.

Are there decent and safe shorttime hotel, guesthouses nearby, one of you could recommend?

I am still so unclear on many things here and find it hard to find out the answers ...

[QUOTE=House007]Well, the time with the gal was really disappointing - no BJ, no penetration cuz the old "You too big" story which is bullock, no GFE when falling asleep and then at the wee hours of the night the "can I leave now" whining started. Finally, at 6 I had enough and let her go.[/QUOTE]Jeez, that would [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] me off and I would not pay her the agreed price as this is a sort of breach of (even tacit) agreement already. I would give her maybe $10 and kick her ass out. If she agrees to go with you the least she could allow is penetration. The early morning can I leave now is to be expected, though, albeit not deserving a tip unless she has been exceptional in bed.

[QUOTE=House007]How do things work at the Walkabout? Are they all freelancers? What are reasonable rates? What do the girls offer - I am asking this as the one from Candy would not even give a BJ, which I consider almost minimum when going with a P4P-chick.[/QUOTE]Yes they are all freelancers. I am not good with going rates anymore because most of the girls to be found nowadays rarely go higher than 6 so I don't bother taking them home but personally my maximum would be $30 all night unless the girl is an 8. $40 for an 8, $50 or $60 for a 9. I would gladly pay $100+ for a 10 if I would find one, which I don't. Long time ago it was easy to find 8-10 for just $5 to $10! Shows the way the place went downhill.

I think you should try Martini. My guess is that you would find the biggest choice of girls there (all freelancers), but don't expect anything higher than 7. Last time I passed by Guest House Nr 9 by the lake I saw a couple of very decent girls, but that's unusual cause not really a monger destination. For GF guest house why don't you try... the walkabout?

Went on a couple of tours withe the late, lamented scotsman.

Started on the road a long the ridge and worked our way back from the far end.

As the prices got cheaper,and the locations shittier,the boys barred up.

By the end, down on the port everyone had another one,and it was best of all!

The do "massage".

[QUOTE=Camboblowshooter]Purpletaoist The Heaven Hotel is open again.
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Correct, however the name is now Hotel Ka Reach. As I had the impression you also wanted to say the massage was open again, decided to check it out this afternoon, as I was not inside their (massage parlor 1st floor) for over a year...before I got off my motorbike the guard already came running toward me waving his arms ; no massage, no massage!!! But you can get a room to sleep starting price is 10 bucks, corner of street 148 and 19. However be advised, you get what you pay for. Crappy rooms. Beds well used in the past by the massage girls...

No massage parlor in any place that has been closed due to the sex crackdown in PP has -to my knowledge- re-opended. None.

But generally the girls in any bar are (very) hungry for your dollar. The looks they give me evening time when I pass with the bike...priceless.[/QUOTE]

Playing bar girl lotto can be disappointing, many are not hard core hos.

This is not Thailand.

Walkabou different story, ten to twenty dollars max.

Girls should be performers there.

Still get some new ones passing through at odd times seeking a few bucks, they have real jobs but no money.

i constantly read about foreigners being arrested for having sex with **** girls. and i am not talking about very young girls here. supposedly, a frenchman was arrested for having sex with a girl who had an id stating she was 20 at that time. however, she was only 16. that is scary.

so how can one be sure or isn't there just a being sure-thing.
just looking at it like this.
the girl looks older than 18.
the girl confirms that she is 18+.
she has an id stating that she is 18+

but
her id is not her id but the pic could be her.
all numbers are in khmer.
the hotel or guesthouse lets her in after checking the id.

what are the chances of setups if taking a girl from walkabout, martini or any of the bars?

went on a bar-tour with a buddy but he was too scared to bf a gal. they looked over 18 but then who knows.
one even had a passport, but when asked, the year in the passport and the one she said did not match, although i think the passport was legit.

damn confusing and damn scary. who wants to end up in a prison cell here and be black-marked for the rest of his life cuz the girl was one month shy of being 18.

looking for others' take on this ...

In today's online ed of the PP-post: (this is not the full article)

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PHNOM Penh Municipal Court on Thursday found three men guilty of purchasing child prostitution in a case involving a woman whose age has been disputed by prosecutors and defence lawyers.

The three defendants in the case – 53-year-old businessman Meas Chanthoeun, 49-year-old Ken Sen and 32-year-old Chan Pov – each received three-year sentences that were suspended to 18 months.

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Court officials spent hours debating the victim’s age, and two family books were entered as evidence. One book said that she was born in 1991, indicating that she would have been 18 at the time of the raid, whereas another said that she was born in 1995, indicating that she would have been 14.

Presiding judge Ke Sokhan said Thursday that the court had determined that the victim was younger than 18 at the time of the incident. The verdict he read out did not include any reference to compensation.

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Gosh, this is not sex with kiddies. Do girls really look like 19 when they are 14? So, she might actually have been 18+ but the court decided that she was younger. Is all this to scare potential punters away ...?

good reasons to stay away from cambodia

Most ids, in Cambodia, are off by a couple of years. Many parents change their children's ids so that they can legally work to get money for the family. Even the prime minister's id is wrong. He wanted to join the Khmer Rouge, but he was too young. As far as women go, my advice would be to go with someone who looks to be solidly in her mid-twenties. Going with someone who appears to be 18 is asking for trouble.

[QUOTE=Roguesta]Most ids, in Cambodia, are off by a couple of years. Many parents change their children's ids so that they can legally work to get money for the family. Even the prime minister's id is wrong. He wanted to join the Khmer Rouge, but he was too young. As far as women go, my advice would be to go with someone who looks to be solidly in her mid-twenties. Going with someone who appears to be 18 is asking for trouble.[/QUOTE]Good thinking and I will take it.