Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=ConquerorVal;1536829]This makes a lot of sense![/QUOTE]That's the simple version, but the biggest fans of Bangkok also seem to be more interested in treating P4P girls as (in a recreational sense at least but not in a naive way) as lovers instead of hookers. Its really the glass half full vs glass half empty debate in different form and it can color one's perception of the entire Bangkok experience. Those that take the cynical view I believe are going to be more cynical toward Bangkok itself. "Everything is about money, bang em, end of story, bring me the next ****."

[QUOTE=Newton York; 1536305]Okay fellas, here's my report about my trip to Bangkok. I'm usually at the prague section of this forum, I do stop by here to check things out once in a while, get some info and all that, and this being a forum I'm going to be blunt and I'm not going to hold back, I think some of you bigger fans of Bangkok will want to destroy me after this, but I'll be fair in my review. I mean no place is perfect, and while Bangkok was ok, I found its reputation as the mongering capital of the world to be somewhat exaggerated. I will post the financial info in Dollars, somehow that makes it seem more cost effective. Because when I think of how much it costs to monger here or in europe, whatever I experienced in Bangkok, some good, and some bad, when it comes to the bad, considering how cheap it all was, it was okay then.

I got to say though, I did all I could to get a booking with goldie's, so much has been said about how great they are, but they just wouldn't fit me in their schedule. Also, while I did manage to speak to the dude on the phone, I suspect that something I said may have put me on their shit list. I don't know why I assumed paul kaush was the owners husband, I remember reading somewhere here the name of goldie's husband and I just assumed it was him because paul kausch speaks a lot about goldies. The dude on the other line said something about the international sex guide, and mere hours later I get an email from them telling me they won't be able to accommodate me..[/QUOTE]1. Using agencies is NOT the way to go.

2. I'm pretty you paid more than a Jap for your Rainbow 4 disaster. 7,000 baht for 4-5 hours?

3. Just based on looks of your girls- you definately overpaid.

4. I don't do long time. Rainbow 1 has a card with prices- 4,500 is long time. You pay way more than Japs pay.

[QUOTE=Paul Kausch; 1536912]DR Ronin, I like your post. It reflects ISG at it's best. Guys sharing knowledge, experiences and opinions. I'm going to offer some different opinions, which is not to say mine are right and yours are wrong. They're just different.

First, I think Bangkok is mostly hit and very little miss. Like you I've never had problems with taxis drivers, nor with waitresses, hotel employees, sales clerks and other civilian workers. I just remember where I am and how I should act if I want social interactions to go well. For me, that is part of the fun. I think the hotel accommodations are great value and the food is cheap and very good. My preferences with the ladies is where our opinions differ.

I recommend guys in town for the first time do their homework (ISG is one of many good sources of information, just do Google searches) and sample a little of everything. After a few visits you'll figure out what you prefer. There are a number of good mongering destinations around the world; and most cities of a decent size have at least some options; but for variety, quantity and value, I think Bangkok can't be beat.[/QUOTE]It is true that I should always preface any statement I make with a "For me" because we all like different things and in fact those things can change over time. When I was younger I was much more a point and click guy, she looks good, so let's go with a minimum of small talk and then on to the next one; especially on 2 week vacations. But as I have gotten older and moved here my M. O. Has changed considerably. The idea of going to a Goldfish Bowl and picking out a girl or choosing a girl from a photo on an escort service (even if you could find positive reviews on her) is just not where I am anymore. Message parlors to me are mechanical, predictable and industrial sex. I like spontaneity and not knowing what is going to happen. Sometimes that will work in your favor, often it will not.

I had a little experience in London doing escort services and they were all pretty good even if every one of the Chinese, Japanese, Korean and Singaporean girls turned out to be Thai's'! And in truth with prices going up here for go-go girls and freelancers, the escorts are not all that more expensive if you keep it to the 2-hour limit. But still I have heard so many stories that were negative from the wrong girl showing up, the photo being altered to take years and pounds off and add inches to her bosom to the girl giving crappy service and not even coming close to be willing to do all the services they claim to on the website. No doubt some escort agencies are better than others.

But now I like to know the girl before I do much. Maybe it's an age thing or maybe just jaded and wary. Even with go-go girls I will often buy them drinks a few times before I pay barfine, I have even taken them out to play pool or hit other bars and do nothing the first time. Time is something I have plenty of so I don't mind just hanging out and getting to know them. At least for me it has paid off royally because by the time we get around to sex there is a degree of friendship and intimacy that will rarely be there with a "you go short time" approach and the sex has been great that time and every time after. In a disco it is more hanging out with a girl you see for a few hours, drinking, dancing, talking before you even get around to business. A couple times I have been burnt by the girl asking for crazy money when we finally did but most of the time we never even talk money and again in most instances the sex has just been an extension from the good time we were having in the disco (and the girl being just a little bit drunk perhaps). But obviously people approach this differently and if it works for them great. It just didn't seem to work though for Newtown York so if he ever does come back he may need to go about things differently.

[QUOTE=George300; 1536448]I'll be arriving in BKK in 5days, this will be my 3rd trip to Thailand so I'm still kinda a newbie. Does anyone have advice with how to go about getting a girl for a few days, take her and yourself to a doctors get STD tested, if she's clean I want to bareback all vacation long. Thats truly my goal, I will never ever ever fuck one of these girls without them being tested (even tho here in the states, I've slipped up many a times with k-girls and some AMP girls, bareback but never caught anything). Are they receptive to this?[/QUOTE]It's a lucky dip, you can ask them to go away with you, they will not mind getting an STD test if you pay for it, and yes, many will bare back, and in most cases you will not catch anything. I have barebacked for the last 15 years or so, not caught anything that nasty in that time, a case of NSU once, and they are all happy to go. I once took a go go girl I had known since she started out at 16 to Club Med, but by then she was 23, and she beahved well and fitted in. If you want to take them away it will be easier if it is a resort style place, not a small hotel in the back blocks with a fan, but a real hotel with clean sheets and hot water and she will take good care of you. You will have to pay the bar fine for the days up front, and pay nothing else until the end of the trip, and then base it on days times a long time, and add a bit for a tip, after all you get 24 hours on call. The ones that will go more easily are mid 20's girls, they look good, still tight if no kids, and realise they are not getting as rich as they hoped, so might as well enjoy it.

So true. A friend of mine who lived here in the early 00s once said,"Guys don't come to Bangkok to f*ck working girls; guys come to Bangkok to date working girls." He was spot on. Truth be told I was a bit disappointed my first trip to BKK. I was expecting sexually experienced nasty fun gals who were up for anything, and found pretty simple village gals, who even though they had been with lots of dudes, had very under-developed skill sets, were not kinky, and definitely did not know how to get into a Western dude's head psycho-sexually. But the ease of living here, the great food, and the sheer numbers available won me over. I also find Thai women easy to have relationships with and very ok with compartmentalization. As one friend said,"They are no up in your sh*t all the time."

I don't know where to post this but does Baccara offer non-alcholic, non-caffeinated drinks on the menu? The video on Nana shows the Billboard A Go Go menu and it only has soft drinks, but not sure I can order a mango juice. I'm sure they have water though.

A few quick questions.

Is it true you only get one pop at the soapies? For 60-90, I would think you would at least get 2-3.

Can someone direct me to a detailed review of the BJ bars. How exactly do they work, and what is the best? I tried searching, but was overloaded.

Thanks

[QUOTE=TigerCountry;1537010]I don't know where to post this but does Baccara offer non-alcholic, non-caffeinated drinks on the menu? The video on Nana shows the Billboard A Go Go menu and it only has soft drinks, but not sure I can order a mango juice. I'm sure they have water though.[/QUOTE]All the bars serve water, soft drinks and juices. The later are also used in mixed drinks. Not sure about mango juice.

I'm sure number 15 at Rainbow is a nice girl. But OMG she is no means a stunner (a must see kind of girl).she does stand out though. Very thin, ass sticks out like a NEGRO African tribe woman-those you see on National Geographic specials. Big bolt ons-out of proportion to body size. Face is decent. Kind of reminds me of the last blow-up doll I bought.

[QUOTE=DRRonin;1536998]I had a little experience in London doing escort services and they were all pretty good even if every one of the Chinese, Japanese, Korean and Singaporean girls turned out to be Thai's'![/QUOTE]No kidding. Seems every Asia escort in the world is really from Thailand. ;) I think London escorts are the most expensive in the world. I forgot to mention, good escorts in Bangkok are a bargain.

[QUOTE=DRRonin;1536998]But now I like to know the girl before I do much.[/QUOTE]Yes, I understand this. Also, it's fun to hunt the gogo girls and FLs. It's also nice to know by the end of the evening you will have bagged your prey.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1537007]So true. A friend of mine who lived here in the early 00s once said,"Guys don't come to Bangkok to f*ck working girls; guys come to Bangkok to date working girls." He was spot on. Truth be told I was a bit disappointed my first trip to BKK. I was expecting sexually experienced nasty fun gals who were up for anything, and found pretty simple village gals, who even though they had been with lots of dudes, had very under-developed skill sets, were not kinky, and definitely did not know how to get into a Western dude's head psycho-sexually. But the ease of living here, the great food, and the sheer numbers available won me over. I also find Thai women easy to have relationships with and very ok with compartmentalization. As one friend said,"They are no up in your sh*t all the time."[/QUOTE]Well put. With one or, maybe, two exceptions, all of the Thai gals I've known were very enthusiastic in bed, enjoyed sex a lot, but were pretty much, as you said, village gals. Several younger ones had never had a guy go down on them before, and one had never experienced an orgasm during sex despite having been married for several years to a Thai guy. The Cambodian ladies seemed a bit more adventurous to me. It seems the Thai ladies are more adept at activating what I like to call the western guy's "White Knight" syndrome. That's where U-turn into Captain Saveaho and rescue the fair damsel from a horrid life of debauchery. We've all been there. The fortunate ones have resisted the temptation.

Concerning gals who are up for anything, I must add that an experienced Latina can really rock one's world.

You're right about the sheer numbers. In SEA a western guy can barely step off the curb without landing in pussy.

[QUOTE=DRRonin;1536998]had a little experience in London doing escort services and they were all pretty good even if every one of the Chinese, Japanese, Korean and Singaporean girls turned out to be Thai's'![/QUOTE]Lived in London before, but you won't find any real Japanese or Korean there. All the Asian ones are Thai. You can find Chinese in Soho, but only in MP's.

I had the luck to do a half Spanish half Swedish escort, but she's the only one who is not Eastern European or Thai. I posted the agency and her link on the London forum some time ago. Check it out, she's like she is in the pics. No photoshop even if looks like it.

[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1537152]All the bars serve water, soft drinks and juices. The later are also used in mixed drinks. Not sure about mango juice.[/QUOTE]Actually many Go Go's including Rainbow 4 (same with Baccarra) do not offer water. And while they offer certain soft drinks, they don't complicate it with de-caff versions. Now the regular (pool) bars on Soi 4 seem to all offer water probably because they open in the AM, and have happy hour prices all the time anyways

[QUOTE=DRRonin; 1536998]It is true that I should always preface any statement I make with a "For me" because we all like different things and in fact those things can change over time. When I was younger I was much more a point and click guy, she looks good, so let's go with a minimum of small talk and then on to the next one; especially on 2 week vacations. But as I have gotten older and moved here my M. O. Has changed considerably. The idea of going to a Goldfish Bowl and picking out a girl or choosing a girl from a photo on an escort service (even if you could find positive reviews on her) is just not where I am anymore. Message parlors to me are mechanical, predictable and industrial sex. I like spontaneity and not knowing what is going to happen. Sometimes that will work in your favor, often it will not.

I had a little experience in London doing escort services and they were all pretty good even if every one of the Chinese, Japanese, Korean and Singaporean girls turned out to be Thai's'! And in truth with prices going up here for go-go girls and freelancers, the escorts are not all that more expensive if you keep it to the 2-hour limit. But still I have heard so many stories that were negative from the wrong girl showing up, the photo being altered to take years and pounds off and add inches to her bosom to the girl giving crappy service and not even coming close to be willing to do all the services they claim to on the website. No doubt some escort agencies are better than others.

But now I like to know the girl before I do much. Maybe it's an age thing or maybe just jaded and wary. Even with go-go girls I will often buy them drinks a few times before I pay barfine, I have even taken them out to play pool or hit other bars and do nothing the first time. Time is something I have plenty of so I don't mind just hanging out and getting to know them. At least for me it has paid off royally because by the time we get around to sex there is a degree of friendship and intimacy that will rarely be there with a "you go short time" approach and the sex has been great that time and every time after. In a disco it is more hanging out with a girl you see for a few hours, drinking, dancing, talking before you even get around to business. A couple times I have been burnt by the girl asking for crazy money when we finally did but most of the time we never even talk money and again in most instances the sex has just been an extension from the good time we were having in the disco (and the girl being just a little bit drunk perhaps). But obviously people approach this differently and if it works for them great. It just didn't seem to work though for Newtown York so if he ever does come back he may need to go about things differently.[/QUOTE]Your post reflects the qualitatively different and often better experience of living in Bangkok (or in and out of Bangkok all the time) vs guys coming for perhaps 2 weeks once or twice year. IMHO from the vantage point of the working girl its the (real or not) prospect of potential steady business going forward that makes them change their rules a lot more vs the (typical or average at least) shortterm visitor.

[QUOTE=Western787;1537233]Actually many Go Go's including Rainbow 4 (and I believe same with Baccarra) do not offer water. And while they offer certain soft drinks, they don't complicate it with de-caff versions. Now the regular (pool) bars on Soi 4 seem to all offer water probably because they open in the AM, and have happy hour prices all the time anyways[/QUOTE]I"ve never had a problem ordering "naam soda" at a go-go. It may not be exactly what the OP had in mind, but it'll do.