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[QUOTE=BloodRed;2923452]Only time will tell who is right and who is wrong. My predictions are before everyone:
The Russians will annex 4 more Oblasts (in addition to the 4 current annexed ones + Crimea)...[/QUOTE]I wish there were a way to bet some money in this forum on potential outcomes.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2923466]Really? That's your save? Dude, you've got to work on your wiggling skills.
I don't know what's more pathetic for a propagandist: this or not knowing where a major enemy city is located.
Oh well, keep hiding your glaring incompetence behind your big words and scary facades. We don't mind, as long as your glamorous army is doing the same thing.[/QUOTE]It's not my fault that you're failing at reading comprehension. Grasping at straws. Scraping the bottom of the barrel. I do understand though.
P.S. Ukraine is winning.
Western leaders now saying Russia was provoked. What took so long?
[QUOTE=Riina;2924923]Western leaders now saying Russia was provoked. What took so long?[/QUOTE]Getting desperate, huh?
It didn't take long for western leaders to put the moron in his place.
[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/21/russia-was-provoked-into-ukraine-war-claims-nigel-farage[/URL]
[URL]https://www.economist.com/leaders/2024/06/22/nigel-farages-claim-that-nato-provoked-russia-is-naive-and-dangerous[/URL]
[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cldd44zv3kpo[/URL]
[QUOTE=Riina;2924923]Western leaders now saying Russia was provoked. What took so long?[/QUOTE]Which ones, be specific?
[QUOTE=Riina;2924923]Western leaders now saying Russia was provoked. What took so long?[/QUOTE]Anyone that has a clue knows that NATO expansion is what caused this war. Plus the coup which removed the democratically elected president of Ukraine in 2014.
NATO expansion into Georgia and Russia were Russian red lines, both of which were crossed. Look at what happened to Georgia in 2008. Look at what is happening to Ukraine now. The collective west doesn't give 2 shits about Ukraine. Ukraine will NEVER EVER join NATO. So, what the fuck was the point of all of this? Ukraine supporters should be asking that question if they had any common sense.
[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2923589]I wish there were a way to bet some money in this forum on potential outcomes.[/QUOTE]JC, you can just bet green on a roulette wheel and have the same effect. I am glad you think casinos need the money.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2925181]JC, you can just bet green on a roulette wheel and have the same effect. I am glad you think casinos need the money.[/QUOTE]Just sayin' the effect of having some money in the game mitigates some of the more extreme positions people take anonymously on the internet. I imagine, for example, that Blood Red would behave differently if he had to put his own money on the outcome (rather than getting a stipend to repeat Kremlin propaganda). Sure that the future of ICE vehicles is ordained? Buy Chevron stock. Prognosticating on the internet that Russia will triumph? Buy rubles.
[URL]https://mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/news/1958997/[/URL]
On June 23, the Kiev regime, with support from the United States and its satellites, committed yet another heinous terrorist crime against civilians in Russia by firing missiles at Sevastopol. For their terrorist attack, they specially chose a day – Holy Trinity Sunday – one of the most important holidays celebrated by the Russian Orthodox Church.
Four persons were killed, including a two-year-old boy, who was playing on the municipal beach, and a nine-year-old girl. One hundred and fifty-one people applied for medical assistance; 82 persons – 55 adults and 27 children – were hospitalised, many of them in a grave condition. All patients are receiving skilled medical aid.
According to the Defence Ministry of Russia, the attackers used US ATACMS operational missiles with cluster warheads for greater kill ability. All flight data were entered by US military crews based on US reconnaissance satellite inputs. A Global Hawk US reconnaissance drone was on duty off Crimea.
The Investigative Committee of Russia has promptly started an investigation into this crime. All those implicated in this and other terrorist attacks in the territory of the Russian Federation will incur inevitable punishment.
There is no doubt that the United States is involved in this ominous crime. Washington and its satellites have created and nurtured the neo-Nazi regime in Kiev. They are cherishing and supporting their Ukrainian puppets, using them to wage a war against Russia, and encouraging them to commit acts of international terrorism and kill Russian civilians, including with the use of cluster munitions, one of the most terrible types of inhumane weapons. A response to this crime will inevitably follow.
The Western capitals continue to criminally hush up the Zelensky regime's barbarous actions. There are no denouncements from international organisations either. The Russian Federation is again urging them to give a proper assessment to yet another outrage perpetrated by the Kiev regime and the West.
Russia expresses its sincere gratitude for the condolences conveyed by officials from friendly states and by members of the European and US public. The words of commiseration continue to come in.
We commiserate with Sevastopol, where a day of mourning has been announced today. We express condolences to the families and friends of the victims and wish an early recovery to the wounded.
[URL]https://mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/news/1958806/[/URL]
On June 24, US Ambassador to Russia Lynne Tracy was summoned to the Foreign Ministry, where she was presented with a demarche in connection with a new bloody crime committed by the Kiev regime, patronised and armed by Washington, which launched a well-targeted missile attack on civilians in Sevastopol that led to numerous casualties, including among children.
It was stressed that the United States was conducting a hybrid war against Russia and supplying the Armed Forces of Ukraine with the most advanced weapons, including ATACMS missiles with cluster warheads used against Sevastopol residents, which actually made the US a party to the conflict. Moreover, the targeting and flight data entry is performed by US military crews and therefore the United States shares equal responsibility with the Kiev regime for this outrage.
The ambassador was told that Washington's actions of this sort, including its permission to fire at targets in the Russian hinterland, actions that were aimed at encouraging the pro-Nazi authorities in Ukraine to continue hostilities "until the last Ukrainian," would not be left unpunished. Retaliatory measures are certain to follow.
[QUOTE=BloodRed;2925168]Anyone that has a clue knows that NATO expansion is what caused this war. [/QUOTE]Putin's belief that he's Peter the Great reincarnate (reinforced by thousands of tongues competing for a spot in his ass in the last 20 years) caused this stupid, suicidal war.
Good news: the former head of St. Petersburg troll factory Ilya Gorbunov has been detained.
[QUOTE]On the anniversary of the mutiny carried out in Russia by the late mercenary leader Yevgeny Prigozhin, the Federal Security Service (FSB) has detained a top manager of his purported “troll factory.” Ilya Gorbunov, a former top manager of Patriot media, was detained on June 22 in St. Petersburg, according to the local newspaper Fontanka. Gorbunov has reportedly been accused of extorting money from a member of the Public Chamber and former director of the St. Petersburg television channel. Gorbunov was allegedly responsible for covering the march on Moscow by Prigozhin’s Wagner mercenary force on June 23, 2023.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-official-arrested-arms-procurement-fraud/32744402.html[/URL]
Every fascist will get his or her one way or another.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2925364]Putin's belief that he's Peter the Great reincarnate (reinforced by thousands of tongues competing for a spot in his ass in the last 20 years) caused this stupid, suicidal war.[/QUOTE]No, dumbass. Putin tried very hard to avoid a full scale war. That's why there were 2 Minsk accords which Ukraine didn't implement. Angela Merkel is on record saying that Ukraine and the west used that time to arm Ukraine and they had no intention of implementing it. Russia tolerated 2 NATO expansions. When they crossed the Russian red lines with Georgia and Ukraine, Russia acted. Putin warned about this in 2008.
[QUOTE=BloodRed;2925424]No, dumbass. Putin tried very hard to avoid a full scale war. That's why there were 2 Minsk accords which Ukraine didn't implement. Angela Merkel is on record saying that Ukraine and the west used that time to arm Ukraine and they had no intention of implementing it. Russia tolerated 2 NATO expansions. When they crossed the Russian red lines with Georgia and Ukraine, Russia acted. Putin warned about this in 2008.[/QUOTE]Moderator, this is paid FSB disinformation.
[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2925512]Moderator, this is paid FSB disinformation.[/QUOTE]Oh, yes it is!
Just as the sky is blue, the sun is hot, and the Pope is still Catholic.
What's your point John? LOL!
Look at it from this prospective.
Stepmother-Russia keeps wasting its very limited resources paying trolls to run their pie holes on a mongering forum. What's the effectiveness of these expenditures?
I say let them.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2925535]...
What's your point John? LOL!
...[/QUOTE]point is, it is paid political disinformation and a waste of bandwidth -- the poster should be blocked because he is wasting the Earth's precious electrons.