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[QUOTE=Frannie; 1212762]Barack O'Barker would be a good name for a dog.

My wife brought the dog home from her work in a cardboard box and it was about 8 weeks old and about the size of a small rat. I could hold it in the palm of one hand, and it was shaking with fear, and I asked her what we should call it, and she said "Diana, porque es como una princesa" which struck me as funny as the poor little thing was so pathetic, so that was how she got her name. However when I took the dog with me to an auto repair shop to get my a / see fixed there was a big red pit bull there and it put its nose under her tail, and she growled at him and said: "Don't you put your nose under my tail. You are a common dog and I am a Princess, so dream on." I never was close to a chihuahua before, but they are fun dogs and perfect for golf ball retrieval and mail man alerts.[/QUOTE]Funny shit man. I guess you upted me on that one. Barak O Barker LMAO.

Do you watch baseball? Nelson Cruz, Adrian Beltre, Nefti Feliz, so black if they went to night school they would get marked absent. OTOH Luis Pujols, Rafael Furcal, not so much. David Ortíz is pretty black too. The Braves used to have a shortstop from the DR who was part Asian. Can't remember his name. Good field no hit. My African American roommate at the time called him a Bro-riental. Any place you have a coastline you will get some Asian DNA squirting its way in. But it's a predominately black country just like all of the Caribbean.

Rafael Belliard was the "Bro-riental" I was thinking of.

[QUOTE=Madisonguy;1212806]So all the girls there are basically black? I've noticed that they are very dark in the photos. I have to go there for a wedding soon, I love latin girls for sure but there is a level where they are just too dark for my liking. They have to have silky hair like a asian with a nice booty that's the perfect match. Is that not possible in DR? In Costa Rica and Philippines you can pretty much find anything I was assuming it would be same in DR, maybe a Russian or two, maybe an asian or two. Do they get lighter the further away from Haiti you go?[/QUOTE]Plenty of light skin people in DR. However the percentages for light skin people seems to be greater in Colombia and Costa Rica.

Bufeo. Com has photos from nightlife (bars, events) in the DR and New York. I did not take the these photos. [url]http://portal.bufeo.com/galleries/galleries/2680/[/url]

[QUOTE=Madisonguy;1212806]So all the girls there are basically black?[/QUOTE]Only if you observe the "One Drop" rule. The Dominicans have their own version of the "One Drop" rule but it works the other way round.

[QUOTE=Madisonguy;1212806]Do they get lighter the further away from Haiti you go?[/QUOTE]No, not really. The biggest community of Haitians (a third of a million) is in the capital which is halfway across the country from the border. And for many generations there have been lots of Haitians round La Romana, which used to be a massive sugar plantation area. Furthermore, not all the "black" genes come from Haiti. There were big settlements of blacks in the East of the island who came from various then British colonial islands. They were called "cocolos".

The area with the biggest proportion of European-looking Dominicans is the Cibao Valley, but races are well mixed-up all over the country.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;1212815]Do you watch baseball? Nelson Cruz, Adrian Beltre, Nefti Feliz, so black if they went to night school they would get marked absent. OTOH Luis Pujols, Rafael Furcal, not so much. David Ortíz is pretty black too. The Braves used to have a shortstop from the DR who was part Asian. Can't remember his name. Good field no hit. My African American roommate at the time called him a Bro-riental. Any place you have a coastline you will get some Asian DNA squirting its way in. But it's a predominately black country just like all of the Caribbean.[/QUOTE]From Henry Louis Gates Jr,"Dominicans in Denial, And this in a country where mitochondrial-DNA evidence reveals, as the anthropologist Juan Rodríguez pointed out to me, that 85 percent of the residents. Have African ancestry. 9.4 percent Indian and less than 0. 08 percent European". [url]http://www.theroot.com/views/dominicans-denial?page=0[/url].2

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1212828]Only if you observe the "One Drop" rule. The Dominicans have their own version of the "One Drop" rule but it works the other way round.

No, not really. The biggest community of Haitians (a third of a million) is in the capital which is halfway across the country from the border. And for many generations there have been lots of Haitians round La Romana, which used to be a massive sugar plantation area. Furthermore, not all the "black" genes come from Haiti. There were big settlements of blacks in the East of the island who came from various then British colonial islands. They were called "cocolos".

The area with the biggest proportion of European-looking Dominicans is the Cibao Valley, but races are well mixed-up all over the country.[/QUOTE]"It (Santo Domingo) was also the first city in the Americas to import slaves from Africa. The first boatload arrived just 10 years after Columbus, in 1502. Surely, none of those slaves or the newly arrived colonists (or even their royal patrons in Europe) could ever have imagined that more than 11 million Africans would follow that first boat's path to slavery in the New World. Traders called Santo Domingo the Gateway to the Caribbean. It might as well have been called the Gateway of the Slaves."

In visiting the Dominican Republic, The Root's editor-in-chief discovers that its citizens claim they're anything but black, Henry Louis Gates Jr. ; [url]http://www.theroot.com/views/dominicans-denial?page=0[/url].2.

"I knew those tribes were long gone from the island. So I asked him to define indio for me more clearly. I wanted to understand why the term is used to describe a people who, back home in the States, would be described as black. But he struggled to find an explanation that would satisfy me. It seems that anyone who isn't white. Whether the person is lightly tan, medium brown or dark black. Self-identifies as indio. It is more about being Dominican, he explained, than being African or indigenous. Who is black? Who is "negro"? Why, the Haitians!"

Since there's not much activity on the PC section, I also posted this here. I'll be in PC for the 1st time in a few weeks. I have previously been to every other major hotspot on island. SD, BC, La Romana, POP, Santiago, Sosua and Cabarete. I am a solid Spanish speaker. My issues is that I am going for my cousin's wedding in PC, the Melia Caribe in Bavaro to be exact, and we need to do a bachelor party. Left to my own devices, I would have no problem finding what I wanted at a reasonable price, but I am worried about having a group of 4-5 guys with myself being the only Spanish speaker. Also we've got a big issue. The bride to be is planning on hanging out with her friends in Bavaro the same night we are doing are bachelor party. Obviously, we can't be seen coming out of a known mongering local or going to cabaña with a group of chicas. I've RTTF and I still can't put together a reasonable bachelor party plan given that major constraint. Are there any potential options in Punta Cana proper or another location far enough away from Bavaro? How much would a cab ride to Higuey run us? I am assuming that PC's cab prices are likely outrageous. I really would appreciate any advice and guidance. Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Madisonguy;1212806]So all the girls there are basically black? I've noticed that they are very dark in the photos. I have to go there for a wedding soon, I love latin girls for sure but there is a level where they are just too dark for my liking. They have to have silky hair like a asian with a nice booty that's the perfect match. Is that not possible in DR? In Costa Rica and Philippines you can pretty much find anything I was assuming it would be same in DR, maybe a Russian or two, maybe an asian or two. Do they get lighter the further away from Haiti you go?[/QUOTE]Ill be damned, it took me a minute to catch on, but your stupid ass handle made me check your history. Lo and behold, you were the guy that made racial comments (in the CR forum) about me and told me to "take my ass back to the DR forum". Now your first post in the DR forum is racial, how fitting.

Let me give you an introduction to the DR anyway. Most Dominican girls don't have silky hair like an Asian. And most Asians don't have nice booties, like the girls in the DR who get that from Africa. And don't try to act like you really know what you're talking about when you talk about those flat assed Ticas in CR and slim girls in Asia. And your comment"Do they get lighter the further away from Haiti you go", makes me think you would go to the corner furthest away from Haiti to justify your hatred. How sad.

I know you saw my name in this forum and said"damn this guy" but you had to post that question because you have been viewing pics of DR girls for you trip. But some would think that you would have been more tactical and asked about prices, places to go, and transportation to conceal your racial hatred.

Hopefully in the future you will get off the racial tip and realize we are brothers that share this hobby together.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1212829]From Henry Louis Gates Jr,"Dominicans in Denial, And this in a country where mitochondrial-DNA evidence reveals, as the anthropologist Juan Rodríguez pointed out to me, that 85 percent of the residents. Have African ancestry. 9.4 percent Indian and less than 0. 08 percent European".

[url]http://www.theroot.com/views/dominicans-denial?page=0[/url]

2[/QUOTE]That series that Savepros321 introduced us to, gave me an understanding of what really is going on. Its so sad Jao that you and I appear to be the only ones in this forum that viewed it.

[QUOTE=Jaosousa; 1212829]From Henry Louis Gates Jr,"Dominicans in Denial, And this in a country where mitochondrial-DNA evidence reveals, as the anthropologist Juan Rodríguez pointed out to me, that 85 percent of the residents. Have African ancestry. 9.4 percent Indian and less than 0. 08 percent European".

[url]http://www.theroot.com/views/dominicans-denial?page=0[/url]

2[/QUOTE]Then there was this email I received from a Dominicana (sorry Jackson I received it in all caps and just copied it) :

EPISODE #1: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9j4BoZH0rA[/url]

EPISODE #2: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oooVDI3w9o&feature=related[/url]

Comment:

[quote]WHAT A CRAPPY DOCUMENTARY!

FIRST OF ALL, DOMINICANS AREN'T 90% "BLACK" ALSO, &65279; USE THE TERM AFRICAN INSTEAD OF BLACK BECAUSE THAT IS JUST A COLOR NOT A RACE. THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC IS 73% MULTIRACIAL. 16% WHITE. 11% BLACK!

THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO COUNTRIES ONLY THAT ONE HAS A BETTER ECONOMIC STRUCTURE THAN THE OTHER BUT STILL BOTH ARE SIMILAR BECAUSE POVERTY PLAYS A HUGE ROLE IN BOTH COUNTRIES AND DOMINICANS DO NOT HATE HAITIAN!

HAITI AND DR. THESE TWO NATIONS ARE WAY DISTANT FROM EACH OTHER IN INFRASTRUCTURE, SOCIAL DEVELOPMENT, EDUCATION, ECONOMICS, POLITICS, ETC. I NOTICE A LACK OF FAIRNESS IN SOME PEOPLES JUDGMENT, INCLUDING WELL RESPECTED PROFESSOR GATE, ABOUT DOMINICANS. RACISM AMONG HAITIANS THEMSELVES IT'S EVEN WORSE THAN WHAT SOME PEOPLE COULD CALL RACISM IN THE DR.

AN ISLAND DIVIDED'. THE DOMINICAN SEGMENT OF THE DOCUMENTARY.

DR. GATES TRAVELED EXTENSIVELY IN HAITI SHOWCASING THE VARIETY OF OPINIONS AND COMMUNITIES THAT SETTLE THERE. THE SAME CANNOT BE SAID OF HIS EXPLORATION OF THE DOMINICAN REP. HE RESERVED HIMSELF TO THE CAPITAL CITY, SANTO DOMINGO. IT IS COMPLETELY DISREGARDING THE DISSENTING VOICES AND DIVERGENT CULTURE OF THE INTERIOR CITIES WHICH HAVE HISTORICALLY DIFFERED FROM THE MANDATE OF THE CAPITAL.

THERE WAS SOME KIND OF EFFORT FROM THE AUTHOR TO VICTIMIZE THE HAITIANS AND MAKE THE DOMINICANS LOOK LIKE THE BAD GUYS. HAITI IS A NATION OF GREAT PEOPLE, SO DOMINICANS. BASED ON THE WAY THE ISLAND WAS DIVIDED NOT ONLY IN SPACE, BUT IN LANGUAGE, TRADITIONS, CULTURE, AND SO ON. IT IS EASY TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN HAITI AND DR.

THIS IS THE APTITUDE OF THE BLACK AMERICAN TOWARD&65279; BLACK THAT ARE NOT AMERICAN-SLAVES DESCENDANT : SPEAKING NEAR A FOX NEWS MICROPHONE THAT HE THOUGHT WAS TURNED&65279; OFF, THE REV. JESSE L. JACKSON ON SUNDAY DISPARAGED SEN. BARACK OBAMA'S EMBRACE OF FAITH-BASED SOCIAL SERVICES, USING CRUDE LANGUAGE TO SUGGEST THAT HE WANTED TO CASTRATE THE PRESUMPTIVE DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL (OBAMA) NOMINEE. SO, CAN YOU SEE THAT IS NOT JUST A DOMINICAN PROBLEM.

I FOUND THIS VIDEO AS AN INSIDOUS AND PERFIDIOUS PROPANGADA AND AT LEAST TO SAY AND LACK OF RESPECT AND FULL OF VICIOUS AND UNFUNDED PORPUSES AGAINST THE CULTURE AND HISTORY OF THE DOMINICAN PEOPLE.

YOU ARE NOT THE FIRST ONE TO DO THIS KIND OF MISSLEADING ARGUMENT WHY THE HAITIAN PEOPLE ARE IN THE CONDITION OF ADYECT POVERTY THAT THEY HAVE BEEN THROUGHT THEIR HISTORY. YOUR&65279; COUNTRY (USA) NOT JUST FRANCE WITH THE HAITIAN ELITE ARE ALSO RESPONSIBLE[/quote]

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1212857]Then there was this email I received from a Dominicana (sorry Jackson I received it in all caps and just copied it) :

EPISODE #1:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9j4BoZH0rA[/url]

EPISODE #2:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oooVDI3w9o&feature=related[/url][/QUOTE]Daaaammmmn! Mr E we are brothers, but have YOU seen the documentary? I'm sure you have. But what I'm surprised at is that you didn't check this trick. I'm light skinned but held my hand up next to my darker Dominican girlfriends hand and she claimed everything but said she is not black. She said"I'm indio" "I'm Spanish" I'm Latin". Ask her if she knows who Nelson Mandela, Dr Martin Luther king, Desmond Tutoo, or even Shaka zulu is? I'm willing to bet she doesn't know or care.

And her comment that Dominicans don't hate haitians? You have been to the DR, have you seen equality? They have a history of killing, occupations and war, and she makes you believe they are loving neighbors?

And racism amongst Haitians? They are some of the most together people on the planet, good or bad. The distance is amongst classes regarding economics. I'm sure you told her this. My point is before you post such a one sided evaluation, I would hope you investigate for yourself and report the opinion you develope when coming to YOUR conclusion.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1212857]Then there was this email I received from a Dominicana (sorry Jackson I received it in all caps and just copied it) :[/QUOTE]From what I have seen and heard in my travels to DR, I agree with Henry Louis Gates, Jr. I see very few Dominicans who appear to be native Indian. Dominicans with blonde hair and blue eyes, very, very few, practically zero.

My last trip in Santo Domingo, I entered the hotel barcelo with a light skin pro and security did not bother me, I tried to enter the same hotel with a dark skin dominicana and I was stopped and told I would to have to pay a high fee to allow the dark skin chica to enter the hotel. I told the worker at the front desk he was racist, he replied that he was the same color as the chica. Some Dominicans play the game, racist when it suits their needs and then they will claim to be dark skin when it is convenient.

From what I understand, human kind started in Africa and branched out from there. Environmental factors shaping the exterior of humans in different parts of the world, thereafter.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1212857]Then there was this email I received from a Dominicana (sorry Jackson I received it in all caps and just copied it) :

EPISODE #1:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9j4BoZH0rA[/url]

EPISODE #2:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oooVDI3w9o&feature=related[/url]

Comment:

WHAT A CRAPPY DOCUMENTARY!

FIRST OF ALL, DOMINICANS AREN'T 90% "BLACK" ALSO, &65279; USE THE TERM AFRICAN INSTEAD OF BLACK BECAUSE THAT IS JUST A COLOR NOT A RACE. THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC IS 73% MULTIRACIAL. 16% WHITE. 11% BLACK![/QUOTE]Send your girl this and tell her there ain't enough bleach available in the DR to help her erase 20yrs of Blackness. Ask Sammy Sosa!

[url]http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haitian_occupation_of_Santo_Domingo[/url]

Also tell her to look up what the Taino population was prior to this, as their population was greatly decimated (from disease) by the Spaniards:

Quoted from the link above: [i]"The Dominicans were at serious disadvantage if they were to prevent the Haitian invasion. Mainly, they had no military forces whatsoever, their population was eight to ten times less than Haiti's, and the economy was stalled..."[/i]

Tell your girl that there are lies, damn lies, and then there's SavePros :)

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo; 1212853]Ill be damned, it took me a minute to catch on, but your stupid ass handle made me check your history. Lo and behold, you were the guy that made racial comments (in the CR forum) about me and told me to "take my ass back to the DR forum". Now your first post in the DR forum is racial, how fitting.

Let me give you an introduction to the DR anyway. Most Dominican girls don't have silky hair like an Asian. And most Asians don't have nice booties, like the girls in the DR who get that from Africa. And don't try to act like you really know what you're talking about when you talk about those flat assed Ticas in CR and slim girls in Asia. And your comment"Do they get lighter the further away from Haiti you go", makes me think you would go to the corner furthest away from Haiti to justify your hatred. How sad.

I know you saw my name in this forum and said"damn this guy" but you had to post that question because you have been viewing pics of DR girls for you trip. But some would think that you would have been more tactical and asked about prices, places to go, and transportation to conceal your racial hatred.

Hopefully in the future you will get off the racial tip and realize we are brothers that share this hobby together.[/QUOTE]Ha ha you're funny man, I'm not attracted to black chicks doesn't make me racist. If that was the case pretty much everyone would be racist because lots of people don't like a particular race. Flat assed Ticas? You haven't been to CR obviously. If you like fat black women I don't have a problem with that at all, I'm forced to go to DR for a wedding and just trying to scout it out first is all. I prefer latin over asian and over white and I'm a white guy so I guess I'm racist towards white people too. My wife is mexican that probably makes me racist too. I honestly didn't remember you until you said something and it was not my fault you write in ebonics, it has nothing to do with race plenty of white kids want to act ghetto too. Sorry don't have time to chat more got my kkk rally today. Ha ha The race card is something only a black person would bring up, if I said I didn't like latin or asian nobody would give a rats ass or think it's racist. Your writing has gotten better, but your intelligence stayed the same.