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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2269681]In other threads people use the word semi-pro for this description.[/QUOTE]In Asia, true. In USA, semi-pro is another term for a truck-stop girl. Sometimes instead refers to a woman who more closely resembles a tractor-trailer than a pickup.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2269489]Not trolling at all. What do you say it is? Certainly not professional. Who ever refers to a hooker as a professional? A professional what? [/QUOTE]To be honest with you I never realized it could also be short for prostitute. Nevertheless I have the feeling that most people here use / read it as an abbreviation for professional, meaning a girl who's only job is selling her body to make a living.
So in this case it has nothing to do with being highly educated. Unfortunately because some of them could use a little education.
[QUOTE=Tomasb;2269302]You may remember my posts from a few years ago as I almost exclusively patronized Bangkok Beat and wrote several reports about it. I still to this day have never taken a girl from a go-go in Bangkok as I don't like the strictly transactional aspect of talking to girls in there, the bar fine, dealing with mamasan etc. Now that the Beat is gone, I am having trouble finding a suitable replacement.[/QUOTE]I remember your posts well, and even made a jaunt over to BB myself to check it out. Alas, I was not able to recreate the same groove you had, but appreciated your perspective on it. I look forward to reading your next set of reports, now that you are back in the saddle.
A person can be a professional at any job. I saw this in a news report recently: "In sentencing Carey Ackies, 36, USA District Judge George Z. Singal said the New York man was a professional drug dealer who was responsible for sending substantial amounts of drugs to Maine. " In mongering parlance a pro is a professional provider of sex for money.
Thanks Kumbu.
In my semi-desperate attempts to recreate the atmosphere at BB, I decided to give Hillary 2 bar on Soi 4 a try last night. It has some of the same elements as BB including a live band playing rock music, wood beams and shoddy floors, a decrepit pool table, similar bohemian ambience and quite a few girls. The waitress directed me to a bar top table near the entrance to the ladies room where there was a quartet of women some of whom looked very familair. As it turns out, one women remembered me from BB and I remembered her as I generally tried to avoid her at BB as she was always quite persistent with me but I never found her that attractive. Not much has changed as she was all over me while I drank at their table. Touching my hair, stroking my arm, rubbing my back— you know the picture.
Finally after an hour or so, she says 😉to me 'you go home with me'. I wasn't interested in her three years years ago and nothing has changed except we are older. I would estimate her age as mid 40's. I respectively declined but quickly rejoined as a joke that I had no money honey. With that comment, she eventually wearied of me and moved to another table and was replaced by an attractive girl who grabbed a perch next to me. Another friend of the BB girl also reappeared at my table. My conversation with the new girl quickly revealed she was a Vietnamese from HoChiMinh City and spoke very good English. She took classes for a year and it showed. Her tourist visa is for 30 days and doubt she is doing many tourist activities per se but, nevertheless she was pleasant and attractive. It also became apparent that she did not speak Thai as she ended up speaking English with the other Thai girl at the table. More on the other girl in a moment.
One huge change for me from my prior stay in Bangkok is the cancer clearly has taken its toll on me. I don't have the energy level I use to have, and my bladder and GI tract don't function as well as they used to. In short, I have to pick my spots when I feel healthy. Tonight was not of them but nevertheless I exchanged What's App information with the Viet girl but then threw her back in the pool. An hour or so later, she was still looking for company (about 3 am). It was a tough night for girls. There were a lot girls there last night looking for company. I mean a lot. Not all were great looking but certainly there were several ladies under a different set of circumstances I would have proudly taken home.
So after she left, I started talking with the other Thai girl. She told me that she had a Finnish boy friend and doesn't go with other guys. Apparently, he is coming to Thailand soon. I had bought a round of drinks for these girls earlier and this girl insisted on buying me a drink to compensate for buying her a drink earlier. Nice girl and reimbursing me for a drink you don't see happen very often. This lady was def cute with daisy mae cutoff shorts and had a real spinner look to her. My only problem was she started suggesting that I was gay because I blew off her friend and the Vietnam girl. My other problem was she was proud of her unavailability as she blew off several guys who were trying to pick her up. A bit full of herself! Sounds like she has a nice sponsorship arrangement but at least she is holding up her end of the bargain.
Finally, I decided to leave but the original Thai girl from BB cruised by and told me that she had made her offer to me as a freebie. She was clearly annoyed with me so at least I accomplished something. Frankly, even with that I was not interested since she hangs out there and this would prob make me off limits to all her friends etc. It's never free anyway LOL.
I do have to say that last night Hillary 2 was quite active and many women appeared around closing hours. The faráng guys in there seemed less interested from my observation in pursuing the girls which contributed to a bit of a sense of desperation with the girls who were looking for an early morning assignation. .
I plan to contact the Viet girl though my experience has been girls from Vietnam are great in their country but not so good when you go with them out inside of their country. We shall see.
[QUOTE=Kumbu;2270044]I remember your posts well, and even made a jaunt over to BB myself to check it out. Alas, I was not able to recreate the same groove you had, but appreciated your perspective on it. I look forward to reading your next set of reports, now that you are back in the saddle.[/QUOTE]
Oops. The below report belongs in the Bangkok thread.
Ying has been my regular here. She was busy today so I went for King, a taller girl. What a disaster. She played the giddy goat when I asked for 69, alleging "me no English". Eventually I showed her the position on my phone. She took the position but contrived to keep her genitalia out of reach. When I required doggy she twisted her back and didn't curve. I paid and left.
[QUOTE=Sunlover2;2269597]In a P4 P context I would associate "pro" as shorthand for professional, but I am sure there are different regional connotations. Bottom line is she has sex for money. And in any case it is a slang phrase meant to be taken figuratively, not literally.
SL.[/QUOTE]For what it's worth, in other languages such as French where the words "prostitute" and "professional" coexist like in English, "pro" is short for professional, not for prostitute. It can also be applied to a man to underline his outstanding skills in dealing with difficult situations. "Man you're a pro" is a compliment, not an insult.
[QUOTE=XXL;2270399]Ying has been my regular here. She was busy today so I went for King, a taller girl. What a disaster. She played the giddy goat when I asked for 69, alleging "me no English". Eventually I showed her the position on my phone. She took the position but contrived to keep her genitalia out of reach. When I required doggy she twisted her back and didn't curve. I paid and left.[/QUOTE]Doggy is always part of my repertoire in my sessions. I always encounter pros who twist their back to avoid full penetration. I find that patience is best in that circumstance. When that happens I tend to spend a longer time in doggy and wear her out my means of attrition. Eventually she will tire of twisting her back and stay put at which time I will use my hands to curve her back to my liking and then proceed to give her a good seeing to.
Hi,
I am planning a week long trip to Pattaya end of May. From what I have seen in the reports best quality girls can be had by paying the Bar fine.
I don't like it but so be it. My main question is what to do at Day time? Can a Girl be hired as a quasi Tour Guide during the Day and share the bed at night? Doesn't have to be the same girl for the entire week. For this what is best; Bar Girl pay LT Bar fine, Free lancer, or temporary GF?
In regards for sight seeing is there enough to see in Pattaya or does it require longer transit to BKK or other area's. This is my first trip to Thailand but I am regularly traveling in Asia. I have seen my share of Temples and Buddha's. Not really a beach going type for the entire week.
Hi guys,
I am coming to Pattaya at the end of the month for a couple of weeks. Just a couple of practical questions for those in the know and with experience.
To get the most out of my LT encounters, where is the best place to get blue pills (generic or what have you), what's on offer, what are the costs and are street traders reliable? Is it best to get these pills before coming to Pattaya?
Where is the best place to exchange money at best rates. Should this be done in Bangkok (if so where) or in Pattaya, and if so where are the best banks / ATMs?
[QUOTE=Frisk;2270549]Hi,
I am planning a week long trip to Pattaya end of May. From what I have seen in the reports best quality girls can be had by paying the Bar fine.
I don't like it but so be it. My main question is what to do at Day time? Can a Girl be hired as a quasi Tour Guide during the Day and share the bed at night? Doesn't have to be the same girl for the entire week. For this what is best; Bar Girl pay LT Bar fine, Free lancer, or temporary GF?
In regards for sight seeing is there enough to see in Pattaya or does it require longer transit to BKK or other area's. This is my first trip to Thailand but I am regularly traveling in Asia. I have seen my share of Temples and Buddha's. Not really a beach going type for the entire week.[/QUOTE]One chick I met on Soi 6 said that LT with her means 550 baht Barfine, plus 3000 baht for her for which she will stay from 5 pm to 9 am the next morning. This is understandable as she could probably generate more revenue in that allotted time from from just doing 1000 baht per pop ST.
One freelancer I met on beach road said she stayed fulltime with a client for an entire month and she received 2000 baht in remuneration per day for her services which included cooking and cleaning.
It all depends on the girl and her particular working circumstances as to whether she can be your tour guide in the day. I suppose the skankier the girl the more likely that she will stay longer hours with you.
[QUOTE=Franga;2270908]I suppose the skankier the girl the more likely that she will stay longer hours with you.[/QUOTE]LOL. How did you end up with that supposition? When me and wingmen started traveling to new places we would always get the hookers to show us around. First time in Bangkok it was the same. Chicks from Angel Disco in Nana Hotel where we were staying took us around to tour. A lot would depend on the chemistry between you and the girl. If she does not like you and just wants to hurry up and get it over with then no.
I would say the best results come from meeting freelancers in the discos. They are used to staying with guys LT and giving more of GFE and being actual girlfriends. And they are subject to know more about the place because they do it with guys all the time. Most chicks in the bars probably don't know a damn thing about Pattaya. You would be surprised how many chicks on Soi 6 have never even been to Walking Street.
So go to a disco at night, find a chick you like and see how things are going with her. Tell her you want her to stay with you and ask if she can show you around when you guys wake up the next day.
Also, whenever we knew we wanted to go to Koh Larn (Coral Island) the next day, we would tell the girls when we met them in the disco then take them to their room to get their swimsuit before we went back to the hotel. We wouldn't get back from the island until about 6 pm so our LT lasted from like 2 or 3 am until 6 pm the next evening for 1000 baht.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2270938]LOL. How did you end up with that supposition? When me and wingmen started traveling to new places we would always get the hookers to show us around. First time in Bangkok it was the same. Chicks from Angel Disco in Nana Hotel where we were staying took us around to tour. A lot would depend on the chemistry between you and the girl. If she does not like you and just wants to hurry up and get it over with then no.
I would say the best results come from meeting freelancers in the discos. They are used to staying with guys LT and giving more of GFE and being actual girlfriends. And they are subject to know more about the place because they do it with guys all the time. Most chicks in the bars probably don't know a damn thing about Pattaya. You would be surprised how many chicks on Soi 6 have never even been to Walking Street.
So go to a disco at night, find a chick you like and see how things are going with her. Tell her you want her to stay with you and ask if she can show you around when you guys wake up the next day.
Also, whenever we knew we wanted to go to Koh Larn (Coral Island) the next day, we would tell the girls when we met them in the disco then take them to their room to get their swimsuit before we went back to the hotel. We wouldn't get back from the island until about 6 pm so our LT lasted from like 2 or 3 am until 6 pm the next evening for 1000 baht.[/QUOTE]This is great, Mr. E. I will be going to Patts in September and will try some of this.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2270938]Most chicks in the bars probably don't know a damn thing about Pattaya. You would be surprised how many chicks on Soi 6 have never even been to Walking Street.[/QUOTE]So true. I do find it rather odd how many Soi 6 girls have never been to even Walking Street. Talked to one the other day and she didn't even know where Terminal 21 was.
Same for some gogo girls and different bars on Walking Street.
Ginza Girl: Do you know any bars where I may make more money?
Me: I think you would make a killing at Sensations or Palace.
Ginza Girl: I never heard of those bars. Where are they?
Me: <no words. Just a confused stare since Sensations is the next bar and Palace is right across the street, both literally less than 100 feet away>
However, went bar hopping with a Palace model last month and she knew which bars were good and bad as well as I did. She also knew girls and waiters from every bar.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;2270938]LOL. How did you end up with that supposition? When me and wingmen started traveling to new places we would always get the hookers to show us around. First time in Bangkok it was the same. Chicks from Angel Disco in Nana Hotel where we were staying took us around to tour. A lot would depend on the chemistry between you and the girl. If she does not like you and just wants to hurry up and get it over with then no.[/QUOTE]
Bang on again. Has happened to both myself and my friends. Once they know you are new to a city they will jump at the chance to take you around if they enjoy spending time with you. Best advice I can give any less experienced guys is do not let the charm and skill some of these girls have get to you. If they act special with you they have acted that way to many guys before and after you, even if you become their Sponsor.