Jakarta

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]A newbie with only 6 posts that contain very little useful information, challenging a highly-respected Senior Member with 467 posts - unbelievable![/QUOTE]

He believes he is David taking on Goliath?

[QUOTE=Seijaipow]
You do not say what ++ services the girls agreed to provide but it is within the rights of the girls to later refuse the services agreed in the first place. You cannot force the girls to do something which they later changed their minds to. Although you may be the customer, the girls have every right to change their minds and to refuse. Unless we hear from the girls concerned, we are only hearing your end of the story. And every story has two sides to it.[/QUOTE]

++ (plus plus) is common Jakarta massage center slang for full service. I am not sure how much experience you have in Jakarta, but actually things are very upfront and discussions frank when you discuss services in a massage joint. In most places (including Puri Sehat) they will have some girls who specialize in good massage, other girls who basically can't massage and only do specials, and others who do both (and those girls are usually booked.) Hey I respect a girls right to change her mind about giving services and would never force myself on a girl. But thanks for NOT giving me the benefit of doubt.

However, I do consider a case where the manager and the girl agree to ++ and then the girl changes her mind, I should not be charged or be given the opportunity to change girls. Otherwise, it's basically a clip job. If you condone that kind of biz practice have at... If you feel you are only getting half the story you can go talk with the manager Dedi and/or girl #67.

[QUOTE=Seijaipow]He believes he is David taking on Goliath?[/QUOTE]David won that fight.

I regularly trawl certain sites on internet to hunt for my next targets... have a Jakarta trip upcoming and have been chatting to a few likely prospects. Most are in the under 30 age range where we all tend to like them but one lady got my eye, as she had some funny things to say, which I always enjoy.

Anyways didnt think much would come from that as shes slightly over 40 and from her pics, very conservative, a normal mom, working in an office you might say.
However during yesterdays chat, she asked what I did at night. Said sometimes I drink. She said she doesnt drink, as shes a good muslim. Then kapow.. he says " but i like drink sperm"....nearly fell off my chair as this lady looks last one to do that. My experience is if you look traditional you are.

Went onto to suggest we could go to a movie where shed be happy if i finger her pussy.. and ass... and whatever we want can do in a taxi. Says its 7 months since her last guy.. so cearly pressure is building. I may need to advance my trip!

[QUOTE=Mongerxx]Well as someone who has RTFF it's pretty obvious that Oyenk has a bone to pick with Tropical spa and tends to pimp Puri Sehat. Personally, I found Oyenk's attack on a new poster's report baseless.

Let's not so quickly silent reports of negative experiences venues which are favored by the more frequent posters.[/QUOTE]Hi bro,

I so agree with you on all accounts, there are place that are better in how they services their clients.

My humble two cents.

[quote=mongerxx]well as someone who has rtff it's pretty obvious that oyenk has a bone to pick with tropical spa and tends to pimp puri sehat. personally, i found oyenk's attack on a new poster's report baseless.

i gotta say my personal experiences with the manager at puri sehat have left me less than impressed. on my first visit i went with a local friend of mine. i had a very good session with #28 in a vip room. as i was showering we got the phone call warning time was up. i said no extension, and my girl informed them we were washing up and would be out shortly. after dressing and going to the counter to settle up, my friend was already waiting.

he was pissed off because the shorted him on time with a call to leave the room while there was 20 minutes still left (these were 90 minute sessions.) but the news was about to get worst. first, i get my bill in which i was charged for an extra session. i questioned why i was being charged a third session when i explicitly said no extension. then my local friend also got billed for the extra session and he was kicked out of the room early! after getting no where with the staff we asked the manager to come out.

dedy, came out and proceeded to show me, on my billing slip that difference between my check and check out time was 97 minutes. i was a little miffed, as i have never been charged anywhere else for an extra session when i refused and was already in the shower. he said i should have left immediately and finished my shower downstairs in the locker room.... asshole, but there was a technicality, so i took my medicine.

but for my friend it was worse. he showed dedy that the difference between his check in and check out time was only 72 minutes! of course, dedy's response was to do the indo smile and mumble bullshit that this was something he couldn't change. this was an absolute ripoff and ridiculous that dedy didn't change that bill.

another time i went there with another westerner. i asked dedy to help pick a couple girls for us, and to make sure the girls were ok with providing ++ service to the bules. the girls agreed bfore we went to the room, then in the room the girls changed their tunes and refused ++ service. of course, complaints to dedy fell on deaf ears. this guy is not customer friendly and a poor manager imho. fyi, i speak decent bahasa and language was not a problem. there are some great girls here, but this place has lost a lot of potential steady biz from this customer. believe me there are plenty of similar venues where you will get better treatment.

let's not so quickly silent reports of negative experiences venues which are favored by the more frequent posters.[/quote]
i've read your bad exp in local forum...

let me tell you bad exp i had in tropical spa ;
* with therapist : i choosed therapist, i questioned her how much for fj and i was told that minimal 350,000 rupiahs and hj for 100,000 rupiahs...
?
** with freelance package : the second session with therapist...she usually begs you for tip...hj or fj.
i felt so uncomfortable during that massage session because of her.

so two times is enough for me to decide.

do you still think that "it's pretty obvious that oyenk has a bone to pick with tropical spa and tends to pimp puri sehat" ?

or let me post two unrecommended place in jkt based on some reports here...

1. puri sehat spa
2. tropical spa

[QUOTE=Smoothy]Monger, I've never been to Puri Sehat. However, your story sounds almost exactly like what happened to me the one and only time I ever visited Tropical spa. I won't be back to Tropical, and it sounds like I should avoid Puri Sehat as well. There are many good places in town that are well run by good management, so I'm not about to visit places that pull that kind of crap.[/QUOTE]
I heard rumours that there was a problem between a freelance in Tropical spa and her customer (local monger).
one said this freelance was scamming her customer and other said the freelance was blackmailing her customer...

Though a rumour but sometimes rumour is right !

maybe anybody from JKT could tell us what was about ?

Ok I'm sorry to ask this question anyway but I need some help as I am a firsttimer to Jakarta.

The places I would like to go of course are: blok m, bats, cjs, my bar, atrium mall and anything I would have missed I don't think I will have any trouble in finding them once I'm there a few days.

But. I'm trouble in finding a hotel to my budget 300. 000. 350. 000 per night that is on a good location relative to these spots could any of you give me a good option for this? (or is this budget only going to get me really crappy hotels? I've chosen this budget because I get nice hotels for these rates in Thailand). Once I have chosen a hotel should I book through internet or hassle over there for the lowest price myself?

My budget would be around 150k a day for everything I will be there.

Thanks for any help that can be given. Can't wait to get there.

Hi guys

I've been going to Jakarta a few times & have tried out Delta near Kuningan a few times.

the last trip there i went out late (around 10p.m.) & was denied access to some of the spas along Mangga Besar. Apparently it was closing time but i guess it was the last call of the day.

I've also read some old post that there are some places where they provide 2 girls massage + soapy massage (something like Pink Lady in Hatyai).. but sad to say .. i dunno where is the location .. & how r the rates like.

can any of the senior members recommend me such place as i would be going back to JKT in 2 weeks time.

If not .. i would be trying out Travel Hotel as it seems that place is the best place to be. Although i dun quite understand how does the rates goes there.

MDII: Any advise for a brother from MY?

Thanks a lot guys

[QUOTE=Philoc]My budget would be around 150k a day for everything I will be there.[/QUOTE]

Since you know Thailand.... So your budget is the equivalent of about 500 baht per day for "everything"? I guess you don't plan on having any sex while you are in town then.

[QUOTE=Christof]...I've also read some old post that there are some places where they provide 2 girls massage + soapy massage (something like Pink Lady in Hatyai).. but sad to say .. i dunno where is the location .. & how r the rates like...[/QUOTE]
You are referring to Kartika Massage, on Jalan Hayam Wuruk just south of the intersection of Jl. Mangga Besar. I've discussed this place regularly for 3 years now, just RTFF my old posts and you'll learn all you need to know.

- your best bet is to get there by 9 or 9:30 p.m. at the latest

- their house rate just increased to 260,000 rupiah per girl plus tip; minimum tip expected by the girls is 50,000 rupiah, so a nice two-girl session will cost you 260,000 x 2 plus 50,000 x 2 = 620,000 rupiah total for a full unrushed hour

- always remember the unwritten rule, that you pick one girl and let her choose who the second girl will be. Otherwise, you risk picking two girls who don't get along with each other or don't work well with each other

- yes, half of the women working here are 30-ish and overweight, but you should find at least 4 or 5 decent looking girls on duty at any given time

- my most recent faves are Cindy and Neneng, but your tastes may differ

Look forward to reading a post from you soon of your experiences here in Jakarta

[QUOTE=Philoc]Ok I'm sorry to ask this question anyway but I need some help as I am a firsttimer to Jakarta.

The places I would like to go of course are: blok m, bats, cjs, my bar, atrium mall and anything I would have missed I don't think I will have any trouble in finding them once I'm there a few days.

But. I'm trouble in finding a hotel to my budget 300. 000. 350. 000 per night that is on a good location relative to these spots could any of you give me a good option for this? (or is this budget only going to get me really crappy hotels? I've chosen this budget because I get nice hotels for these rates in Thailand). Once I have chosen a hotel should I book through internet or hassle over there for the lowest price myself?

My budget would be around 150k a day for everything I will be there.

Thanks for any help that can be given. Can't wait to get there.[/QUOTE]
Don't choose a hotel in Jakarta based on prices in Thailand!

There are some hotels in the 300,000 to 350,000 rupiah per night but many of them are dumps. Try Hotel Melawai I or Hotel Melawai II both in Blok M, or maybe the nearby Golden Boutique hotel.

The Hotel Caravan near Plaza Indonesia was clean and decent in December 2006 and cost under 200,000 rupiah; however a recent post stated that it's gone downhill.

Please RTFF the Hotels thread to learn more about inexpensive hotels, such as the low-cost places on Jalan Jaksa where the backpackers stay.

Another option would be to wait until you arrive at the airport in Jakarta and check the prices at the "Hotel Reservations" desk near baggage, as you may find some bargains there.

And Smoothy is right, if your non-lodging budget is 150,000 rupiah, then you not only won't be having much sex (unless you are incredibly lucky), you also won't be eating much unless you eat street food or at McDonald's all of the time.

Yers there are some low-priced girls available in the bars on Jalan Jaksa, but as respected Senior Member Bulai69 has written, many girls who you meet elsewhere might refuse to go back to your hotel with you if they hear that you're staying at a backpacker hotel on Jalan Jaksa.

RTFF and check out a post I wrote around 3-4 months ago about having sex with a woman I met at a streetside cafe near the Tanah Abang train station; that's all you are going to be able to afford sex-wise unless you increase your budget!

Hi,

Does anyone know if the My Bar Dancers are available as P4P girls?

Cheers

[quote=abbnat]hi chaps,

just after a bit of info, as i trawled throught the search function and didn't really get what i was looking for.

i've been away for a while and a bit out of touch with the scene here. i'm looking for a place where indo chinese are a sure bet. when i read the previous posts, it always talks about massage places and spa's.

i'm just looking for a club/bar where there are fl in plentyfull amounts, but, and this maybe my problem, i only operate between blok m and sarinah, and again, all the posts talk about kota, mangga dua etc.

so, in short, looking for a watering hole south of monas where indo chinese are a cert.

btw, one further point. has the scene changed somewhat, as i was in le meridian a few saturdays weeks ago and the girls there don't seem so full on nowadays. years back it was talk talk talk of getting out of there and the price, nowadays it seems more cagey and suitble.

i will write a report on siska from park lane in the comming days

cheers[/quote]
looking for indo chinese gals ?

try gajah mada spa in jl. gajahmada, old spa but i think 25 % of the therapists are local chinese gals / 2-3 years ago there was a chinese wg here and her name was lanny, or try no 68 in bh spa (local number).

for bordell; try bintang mawar cafe...yes you can easily find local chinese wg here !

or try golden crown discotheque, if you prefer discotheque.

i think i have posted local chinese wg in santoso (thread info)...

* note: i have local chinese gal's mobile number, she works in bintang mawar cafe...35 yero but in return i want you to submit the fr only if you want her number (through pm).

good luck !

Thanks a lot bro for the advice. Will go to Kartika and have a good time. Will definately post a FR after I try it.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]You are referring to Kartika Massage, on Jalan Hayam Wuruk just south of the intersection of Jl. Mangga Besar. I've discussed this place regularly for 3 years now, just RTFF my old posts and you'll learn all you need to know.

- your best bet is to get there by 9 or 9:30 p.m. at the latest

- their house rate just increased to 260,000 rupiah per girl plus tip; minimum tip expected by the girls is 50,000 rupiah, so a nice two-girl session will cost you 260,000 x 2 plus 50,000 x 2 = 620,000 rupiah total for a full unrushed hour

- always remember the unwritten rule, that you pick one girl and let her choose who the second girl will be. Otherwise, you risk picking two girls who don't get along with each other or don't work well with each other

- yes, half of the women working here are 30-ish and overweight, but you should find at least 4 or 5 decent looking girls on duty at any given time

- my most recent faves are Cindy and Neneng, but your tastes may differ

Look forward to reading a post from you soon of your experiences here in Jakarta[/QUOTE]