Sosua Reports

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1978529]I found this confusing. You say you are "leery" of street-walkers, but in a single trip you chatted up six times as many as I have in nine years of visiits and then seven years living on the North Coast.

Certainly anyone who spends much time or money on street-walkers is likely to have a rotten time in Sosua. I have avoided them like the plague since my first trip.

This is not to say you cannot find gems walking in the street. I have had some of my best experiences that way. But I am not speaking of street-walkers. I am speaking of civilian girls going about their lawful business, to and from their place of work, shopping, etc. It is easy to tell the difference. The first eye-contact will tell you whether or not to continue the approach.

However you do need some Spanish for this. I am increasingly of the opinion that newbies without Spanish should not go to Sosua, but to Blackbeards. Sorry you had a bad time.[/QUOTE]I'm still trying to understand the difference between picking up the girl on the street versus the girl in the club. Can you explain what is wrong with the girl on the street versus?

[QUOTE=PuntingGeorge;1978675]What a gentleman! My man of the month. In addition to lots of useful information on here, he took the time to come out for a drink, share some experience and best of all set me up for an all night with a cracking Haitian girl. Considering how many times I struck out before last night, he made my trip! If all experienced mongers were so helpful towards newbies like me, the world would be a very entertaining place.[/QUOTE]My pleasure. Good to see another convert to the dark side.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1978096]Okay, I am the curious one now. Be wary of street walkers, as opposed to? I wasn't aware there was a clear distinction between girls on the street and the girls in the clubs. I thought the only difference was where they happened to be standing at the time you see them.
[/QUOTE]See MrEnternational's post #27704 below and my reply.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1978096]
In another post, you mentioned that the cops could "own" a streetwalker.
[/QUOTE]Some of the hardcore putas get protection from police harassment by providing services to a particular cop. Obviously free sex, but also selling drugs for them, or informing, and occasionally setting up gringos in scams.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1978096]
Does anyone own the girls inside of private businesses? That is, do they have any special relationship with the the club management? Are their services more?
[/QUOTE]There are no brothels in Sosua (except possibly Elvis' new place of which I have no experience). The former Pasion and CMP venues are long gone.

There are only free-lance girls (not usually controlled by pimps) and employees of bars, clubs, etc. In most of the DR there is a salida system (like barfines in Thailand) whereby you pay a fixed sum (typically 300 to 600 pesos) to let a staff member leave with you during her working hours. You then pay the chica whatever you agree with her and her employer gets none of that. As far as I know, no establishment in Sosua offers this service but other posters may know better.

If foregoing does not answer your question please rephrase it.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1978096]
Also, I am assuming the Haitians are most obvious because of their skin color? Are they are in a different price range? I haven't dabbled in dark chocolate yet, but this seems like a good place to start.[/QUOTE]Of course there are many very dark Dominicans too, but I can usually identify Haitians. Obviously if you hear them speaking Kreyol, but also their accent and voice timbre when speaking Spanish. Little clues in dress, like how the men wear their ball-caps differently from Dominicans with a more jaunty or "erect" peak. They lose these distinctions after a few years in the DR like many of the hardcore haitianas who hang at the "Haitian Consulate" (Bar Central). But you should be going for the recent immigrants, not the ones who have learned nasty Dominican ways.

Tend to be cheaper because more desperate for money but that is not my reason for preferring them.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1978759]See MrEnternational's post #27704 below and my reply.

There are only free-lance girls (not usually controlled by pimps) and employees of bars, clubs, etc. In most of the DR there is a salida system (like barfines in Thailand) whereby you pay a fixed sum (typically 300 to 600 pesos) to let a staff member leave with you during her working hours. You then pay the chica whatever you agree with her and her employer gets none of that. As far as I know, no establishment in Sosua offers this service but other posters may know better.

Tend to be cheaper because more desperate for money but that is not my reason for preferring them.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that clarification. I wasn't aware that the bargirls in the DR were affiliated directly with the owners. I am familiar with the barfine system in Thailand, having just returned from there. But, I also subscribe to the philosophy that the Thai girls in the bars are no better than ones on the streets. They just have the advantage of better presentation: Costume, makeup, lighting and facilities to keep their appearance up during the evening. That said, if you have a problem with a girl you picked up at a bar or club, do you have any recourse by complaining to the management? I am assuming this would apply to Santo Domingo, but not Sosua as you said.

I will definitely look out for the Haitian girls. My only experience with Haitians being the ones I encountered in South Florida, and they were definitely on the dark side, but stood out from the local AA community by their unique patois. Haitians are not the most visible people in the world, and only seem to be recognized when something bad happens in Haiti. Hopefully, the girls can be a positive contribution towards world peace and an economic driver for their impoverished nation. I will give them an opportunity to do just that.

I have had my share of these sweet young things like her. It is like finding buried treasure. If you treat them nice you can have some great experiences. The 3 some most likely would be a disappointment. Sounds like you had things well in control.

[QUOTE=Kman1;1978449]She just turned 18 and had one of the firmest bodies I have seen. Met her on Calle Rosen along with her chubby friend who I had an eye for. Tough choice, but I had to go with Ms Firm. She was inclined with exceptional oral skills for her age. I got on top for a bit but had to return to BBBJ to finish CIM.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1978646]This is the DR, so maybe her cousin, brother or even father. BionicMan is naive. I would say 80% of working-class and under-class girls are fucking by the age of 14. Sorry, cannot remember the actual figure now, but a recent DR Govt report stated something like 20% of births are to girls under 18.

Middle- and upper-class not so much, but those classes only comprise 10% of the population.

By the way, I agree she is beautiful. OK that is my annual compliment to a dominicana effected with five days to go.[/QUOTE]Might be naive but surely willing to be out of troubles.

I don't dispute she has learnt the roots ages ago.

Was just commenting that one could have taken her one year ago and no real sign through body and skills of her being below "the age".

So, somehow worrying.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1978759]Of course there are many very dark Dominicans too, but I can usually identify Haitians. Obviously if you hear them speaking Kreyol, but also their accent and voice timbre when speaking Spanish. Little clues in dress, like how the men wear their ball-caps differently from Dominicans with a more jaunty or "erect" peak. They lose these distinctions after a few years in the DR like many of the hardcore haitianas who hang at the "Haitian Consulate" (Bar Central). But you should be going for the recent immigrants, not the ones who have learned nasty Dominican ways.

Tend to be cheaper because more desperate for money but that is not my reason for preferring them.[/QUOTE]The vast majority of prostitutes in Sosua are Haitian or are mixed with Haitian blood. Sosua has never been a truly Dominican town; it was originally founded by Jews, then the black Cocolos and Haitians in surrounding areas flooded the town seeking economic opportunities. The majority of "locals" in the town are a mixture of these populations, with maybe some minor authentic Dominican ancestry here and there. If someone wants to mingle with more authentic Dominican women they should visit Santiago and the surrounding towns. Anyone that's like me and is used to seeing the type of Dominican women you find in the New York, New Jersey, Miami, etc. Will be very disappointment with the girls in Sosua. The first time I went to Sosua I had like a culture shock, I was like WTF!? The girls here look nothing like those fine-ass light skin Dominican dimes in USA. But then I started to explore the country, and did my research and I found out where all those beautiful girls come from. They come from towns like Moca, Baitoa, Janico, Constanza, Bani, etc. Not Sosua. Now of course if you just want some quick, cheap, and easy Haitian pussy, Sosua is the place to be.

[QUOTE=KabulGuy;1978502]Nothing wrong with the place or the service, it is just not what I am looking for.

There is quality, quantity and economy. In mongering you can get two of them only. Sosua is a great place for economical fuckfests but short on spending quality time with a hot babe. I am willing to pay top dollar for a nice encounter where we enjoy each other's company as we enjoy (or at least I enjoy) bodies. I think the only thing you will get for paying top dollar here is an empty wallet, the other service would not change.

I have always been leery of street walkers. Of the couple dozen I chatted up, I found that all they were interested in was getting the cash and getting out. Perhaps had my Spanish been better we might have come to a deal but it was not to happen. With a SW all you know is what she tells you. I prefer bar pickups or places with a known local so that should things go south you have some place to start looking for the girl.

Forty or so years ago, I might have simply gone for the fuckfest but at my age (north of 60) and number of women I have had, I am as much interested in the time with the woman as the time inside one of her various orifices.

I had several massages to drain the balls and prevent semen poisoning but these were all just mechanical, just hold on and pump, no teasing before the flip, no playing with the lads just jackhammer. Had this at every place I went to. Again if I was still 20 not too bad but at 60+ looking for something a little different.

Although if you are looking for a pure fuckfest, then Sosua is the place to go. Much like Thailand or other famous mongering places but a lot closer to north America and a lot more economical than many places I have been to.[/QUOTE]Interesting take.

An economical fuckfest is nothing to be sneezed at! Especially if you go for the types of women found there in quantity.

It would be hard for a 65 year old monger to buy a quality encounter with quality time spent (aside from fucking) from a chica who is a complete stranger, and with whom you cannot converse. That's not what Sosua is about. ST hookers are always looking at their watch / phone.

You actually don't have to travel to find that, if as you say you are willing to pay "top dollar" for a nice encounter. Most cities have a channel to escort services where an experienced GFE will make you feel special for an hour or two of paid time. A good one will make you forget the time, and even how much it is costing you!

But that's not Sosua's specialty.

It can be had with a little time invested, but, as you have found, requires more than stopping hookers on the street!

But at those prices you can kick it up a notch by inviting her girl friend (s) back too!

[QUOTE=Urbanite96;1978841] The first time I went to Sosua I had like a culture shock, I was like WTF!? The girls here look nothing like those fine-ass light skin Dominican dimes in USA. But then I started to explore the country, and did my research and I found out where all those beautiful girls come from. They come from towns like Moca, Baitoa, Janico, Constanza, Bani, etc. Not Sosua. Now of course if you just want some quick, cheap, and easy Haitian pussy, Sosua is the place to be.[/QUOTE]There are very few native Sosuans plying their trade, they all come from somwheres else, especially on the weekends. I can't remember ever having fucked a Sosua girl in 8 years or so.

But you are correct, there are some stunners in DR, and we are now in the habit of importing them to party central for convenience!

[URL]http://www.puertoplatadigital.com/verNoticia.aspx?Id=23373[/URL]

Does that man look familiar?

[QUOTE=Revere;1979007][URL]http://www.puertoplatadigital.com/verNoticia.aspx?Id=23373[/URL]

Does that man look familiar?[/QUOTE]No way that is true. All those women are happy to be in the wonderful paradise that is known as Sosua. Why are they trying to make it look bad?

[QUOTE=Urbanite96;1978841]The vast majority of prostitutes in Sosua are Haitian or are mixed with Haitian blood[/QUOTE]You are a very prejudiced person.

The majority of prostitutes in Sosua are not Haitian (unfortunately, in my opinion, LOL). Maybe 25%?

But you are correct when you add "or mixed with Haitian blood". Because 95% of the Dominican population is "mixed with Haitian blood" (or Cocolo blood) if you go back a few generations. Trujillo, Leonel, Danilo all clearly had / have negro blood, as do 75% of the leading figures in politics or business one sees on TV, so it will be even more true the lower down you look in social class.

[QUOTE=Urbanite96;1978841]... some minor authentic Dominican ancestry here and there.[/QUOTE]Not sure what you mean by "authentic" Dominican ancestry. Dominican genes are what they are, and that means 25% African origin on average. Just as Great Britain sent a disproportionate number of Scots, Irish and Welsh to settle its colonies, so settlers from Spain came from its poorer regions in the south, the Basque country, the Canaries, etc and these people themselves were not "authentically" (to use your meaningless term) Spanish. Those from the south would have had a lot of African and Arab blood (as the Moors ruled most of Spain for 700 years).

So the first Dominicans were already mongrels even before the influx of African slaves. And there has been a steady stream of immigrants from all over the world since, Jews, Chinese, and Levantines (very influential among the rich).

The racists who supported the brutal dictators Trujillo and Balanguer tried to brainwash the people into thinking that their darker skin color was derived from their Taino ancestry. No scientist believes that now and only a few older, uneducated Dominicans. The admixture of Taino genes is actually no greater than the admixture of Neanderthal genes (less than 3%) whereas the admixture of African genes is around 25%. The reason being that the Tainos were soon effectively exterminated by the Spanish settlers before there was much chance to interbreed.

As for what you call "beautiful girls", we all have different preferences. If you think the whiter the better, you should be visiting the Ukraine, Russia or Scandinavia. Why compromise with mixed-ancestry dominicanas?

Better you judge people on their individual merits or demerits without fixating on skin color. Even Dominicans, one of the most culturally backward nations on earth, are slowly coming to realize that. One now sees a trickle of black faces on TV, only a token presence, but something I never saw ten years ago. And the younger generation no longer revere Columbus as a hero, but as a major historical figure who was (like most of them) a murderous thug. My son's school for the first time this year did not observe El Dia de la Raiz as a celebration of white supremacy as previously but of mixed ancestry. It's start.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1978765]Thanks for that clarification. I wasn't aware that the bargirls in the DR were affiliated directly with the owners. That said, if you have a problem with a girl you picked up at a bar or club, do you have any recourse by complaining to the management? I am assuming this would apply to Santo Domingo, but not Sosua as you said.[/QUOTE]Sorry, that is not what I meant. Perhaps someone else can explain better than me?

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1978765]Haitians ... stood out from the local AA community by their unique patois. [/QUOTE]It is not a patois. It is a language and recognized as such by philologists.

I had to scroll back 7 or 8 pages to see even a single report. Lot of bullshit discussion about existentialism, etc. Totally irrelevant. When we tell people RTFF, at least there should be something to read!! I learned nothing about DR mongering after spending half hour.

[QUOTE=Crypton;1979032]I had to scroll back 7 or 8 pages to see even a single report. Lot of bullshit discussion about existentialism, etc. Totally irrelevant. When we tell people RTFF, at least there should be something to read!! I learned nothing about DR mongering after spending half hour.[/QUOTE]Well said, Crypton. We all look forward to reading your detailed, illustrated and up-to-date report tomorrow.