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[QUOTE=NoCBJ4Me]FreeWolf66,
I remember feeling that way when I first experienced the mongering scene in asia some 20 years ago. Once or twice, I have gone into Eden, had a beer and walked out when there wasn't any girls I was interested in. One time because the girl I tried to take had been reserved earlier by a 20000 baht member.
Eden is the place where you are pretty much guaranteed to have any fetish you may have satisfied. All the girls offer BBBJTC - CIM or COF, MSOG as well as any number of other deviant activities you can think of. It's always a PSE! The girls may not be stunners, but their willing attitude will more than make up for it. Go early - 1PM. You'll be their first for the day! Be polite, and don't be intimidated. You can find better deals elsewhere, but I never thought the price was too high.
Have fun!
nocbj4me[/QUOTE]Well it's about a third what you'd pay with freelancers, but too each there own.
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Good News - Part 4
(sorry. Wrote this in the garbage can yesterday.)
For the benefit of those that go to LOS for the first time.
A few approaches.
1) if you have time. Get yourself a TG before you arrive: there are lots of sites from Asia Friendfinder to AFF, Friendster and Myspace. It's not difficult. It's great fun. It won't necessarily get you laid. But if you want to see the sights in pleasant company, you get yourself a tour guide for free. Spoken English has much improved over the years. Traffic jams have not, in spite of the numerous highways that have been built. Try to stay near a BTS station. It works, especially during peak hours.
2) a. GoGo:
***Patpong. Actually Patpongs No. 1 and 2. Located between Silom road and Suriwong road. No need to look it up. Even a taxi driver who doesn't speak English will understand where you want to go. If you're not careful. You may get rolled here. Stay away from second floor "sex show" places. Stick to the King's Group bars. King's Castle I. Go-go bar. King's Castle II. Go-go bar. Usually packed with customers. Arguably the best in the group.) King's Castle III. Go-go bar, mainly 'katoey' dancers (transvestites/transsexuals). King's Camelot Castle. Go-go bar. The newest addition to the King's Castle group. King's Cleopatra King's Corner. Go-go bar. High proportion of 'katoey' dancers. King's Garden. Beer bar on Patpong 2. King's Lounge. Second floor disco. Gets packed after the bars close. King's Palace Queen's Castle I. One of the older 'show' bars. First bar on the left on Soi Patpong 1. Queen's Castle II Pussy Galore. Second-floor erotic shows. Maybe Patpong's most famous name.
In spite of it's bad reputation, you can't go to Bangkok and not go to Patpong
***Nana Plaza (officially Nana Entertainment Plaza; shortened NEP) lies on Sukhumvit Road Soi 4 across from the Nana hotel. It's hard to believe that this block of delapidated buildings is the center of Bangkok's nightlife.
And the brain behind it is the owner of the Rainbow bars. Rainbow 1, 2, 3, 4.compared to Patpong, Nana Plaza is trouble free. Which doesn't mean you can't find it if you're looking for it. If you can't find what you're looking for in the Rainbows try the Pretty Lady or Angelwitch (bit rowdy). There are at least four clubs at Nana Plaza with lady boys. One of the best is Cascade, on the third floor right corner as you enter the plaza. Have a look. Safer here than anywhere else. The bars open at 8. 00pm and should close by 1. 00pm. The place is built like an amphitheater with the bars on 3 levels and beer bars in the center. There is no cover charge, no dress code. But when you go in unshaven, in sandals, in shorts and wearing a T-shirt you should have washed a week ago, don't blame the girl for preferring to sit with a Japanese. The time the GoGo girls in these places will come and spent a lot of time with you for free is long gone. You're there to have fun. They're there to make a living. Some find that hard to understand. Be polite. Most of the people in Thailand are. If you like a girl. A smile will do the trick. And a ladies drink. And a few more which you should pay with grace. It's a soft drink in a small glass if you need to know. If you think you made a error of judgment. Say no to the next ladies drink. She'll understand. If you want to keep. Pay the bar fine. She'll change. And you can stay and drink normal drinks. Or go. Somewhere else. Or home
Now about the question of the girls "renumeration". Best not to discuss it if she doesn't bring it up. If she does. Baht 3000. It's a fair price for LT for something really good looking from the Rainbow. Do not negotiate. If she doesn't agree. Let go. Unless she's that 1 in a million. How long LT is will depend on the girl. And U. 10 am. 12 am. After lunch.
If after you leave the bar. And at any time before you consume the deal you feel that there is a certain distinguished change in attitude in the girl. Abort. Give her 1000 Baht and tell her to go home.
Do not get angry. Get even. Back to the bar.
***Soi Cowboy is where you find the Bangkok regulars hassle free, rip-off free, most bars are run by happy people with rarely any aggravation. This small Soi runs between Sukhumvit 23 & 21 (Asoke). You can walk from Nana (15 minutes), take a taxi or tuk-tuk or the BTS from Nana to Asoke Station. Quite a few bars restarted offering topless dancing, nude dancing (Deja Vu) and shows (one of the more popular shows' is the 10. 30 pm girl on girl show at Suzie Wong's). Other larger bars that get above average ratings include Baccara, Sheba's and Shark Club. Beer is a bit cheaper and half price during happy hours. Barfines maybe 100 Baht cheaper. If you like negotiating, can get a nice LT for 2000 Baht, especially towards closing time.
3) and 4) and 5) tomorrow.
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Good News - Part 5
ok if you subscribe to the mistaken idea that GoGo girls are only there for squeezing their tits (which you won't get away with in most places anymore anyway). We move upmarket.
One of the most exclusive places to pick-up a high end freelancer is Club 87 in the Conrad, than the Q-Bar on Soi 11 (their apparently are sister bars as far apart as Sydney and KL) for guys who would otherwise be generally described as up and coming in their home countries but without the pretensions, it is a great friendly scene. Not every girl in the Q-bar is a freelancer, there is a dress code, a cover charge and. Don't go too early. 10. 00pm is about right. If you want to belong buy a bottle of black label which they will keep for U. Wednesday is ladies night and the odds might stack a bit more in your favour. Next on my list is CM2 in the Novotel on Siam Square. More casual and a more international female crowd. If you desperately need a Russian. You'll find here here. Than the Spasso in the Erawan Hyatt. If you want to kill time before things start moving in these place try the Hard Rock Cafe
Here you can have fun for a while without paying barfines. And squeeze tits for free. Eventually you'll have to agree if you play for keeps. And here you better agree on something before you leave. Anywhere from Baht 3000. Baht 5000 LT depending on her, on you, on the time of the night. If you want to try your luck and look for a freebee your best chance is in the Bedsupperclub on Soi 11 though it's not crowed every night and Sunday night is gay night. Mostly just enough good-looking girls to spend one of your better nights in Bangkok. More guys than girls. Better look good. Only negative point: closes about 2. 00pm
The best place to try your luck after bar closing time is the Bamboo Bar. Its almost in front of Grace hotel in Soi 3. Good live band and dancing and the drinks are reasonable specially the tequila. All the Russian girls that did not have customers in CM2 or other bars heading to this bar and many Thai girls that didn't find a customer can be had at discount rates. They close about 5 am.
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Annie's
Visited Annie's back in December. Had a great time with #19 (don't remember her name). Anyway, 1500bht for 2 hours, very friendly/sexy girl (yes there was a sexy girl at Annie's! ) who took care of me very well. Within the 2 hours I had 2 BBBJTCIM, CFS and a great massage. Gave her a 500bht tip for her great service. Overall a GREAT experience that can't be matched anywhere else.
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THONGLOR SPA & MASSAGE
Okey, first post - please help me out :)
Found this website ([url]http://www.thonglormassage.com[/url]) and is a bit curious of how it works, is this a fullservice place? Tried to do a search, but not much turned up, any advice or links to reports (which I guess exist, but that I can't find) would be most appreciated. Some of the girls there look amazing, so looking forward to pay them a visit next month, if they provide with what I hope they do.
Thanks guys!
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[QUOTE]If after you leave the bar. And at any time before you consume the deal you feel that there is a certain distinguished change in attitude in the girl. Abort. Give her 1000 Baht and tell her to go home.[/QUOTE]Or better still, don't give her any money and give her the opportunity to return to her bar or go freelancing. That way you can both spend the rest of your evenings having fun (and she'll get to keep her cut of the barfine because you were jai dee enough to not return her to her bar for a refund).
Good reports BTW.
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Yes, good report, demonstrating a grown-up approach to negotiating (don't)
Why haggle over 5 or 10 bucks one way or the other? Don't sweat the chump change and have yourself a happy chica!
Veterano
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Haggling is a must!
Somebody said to give the girl 1000bht for doing NOTHING?
On the rare occasions they have a change of heart, don't polish the knob after saying they will at the bar, or try to delay jumping in the shower it is time to send them walking. If they go starfish on you as well. YES, tell the bar that she didn't come through with the goods. She will go back and say you got limp dick. If you pay these girls up front or when they don't come through with the goods you are setting a very bad precident. Just like when you get a pair of pooyings from the same bar. They like to show off on how little service they provide. I encountered some bad service at one bar, and other problems with a little puta and after I dragged my crew of 5 to another bar these hoze would all be screaming at us to come back. The Thai law of diminshing service only increases when you encourage it for compensating terrible service.
This "WTF, it's only money/Poor girl" attitude is what has ruined Rio.
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The Good News - Part 6
[QUOTE=Veterano]Yes, good report, demonstrating a grown-up approach to negotiating (don't)
Why haggle over 5 or 10 bucks one way or the other? Don't sweat the chump change and have yourself a happy chica!
Veterano[/QUOTE]It's a point that is well worth dwelling on when you read some of the "negative" reports on LOS. If you have no idea of "fair value" and try to play safe by negotiating the fee with a stunner early in the evening. Don't get angry because she tries to get away with a higher than "fair price". The night is long. Lots of opportunity left for her. Lots of ladies drinks to be had. You're not dating. You're mongering. As I said before you're there to have fun. She's there to make money. Be honest. Chances that's she's real horny are slim.
The worst thing you can do on an evening in LOS is not "loose" a girl. There are plenty. Or "loose" a barfine. Or "loose" a 1000 Baht. The worst thing that can happen is that you loose your temper and get angry. Because it'll spoil your evening. I'd rather pay an extra barfine and have an opportunity to find out whether she is worth the chance than make a mistake. And take the wrong one home.
And a word about the "bad" sex. Be realistic. You got yourself a stunner. And now you want her to behave like one of the girls in the Eden. Don't. And if she does. Count your blessings. And if she doesn't. Don't get angry. There is a law of averages for "good" sex. Any 10 women anywhere. 2 will be above average, 8 average and 2 lousy. You roll the dice.
If you're obsessed with the sex part of your nights in Bangkok. The recommendation to stay away from the mongering scene, find yourself a "performer" in a massage parlor and cut a deal and spend your stay in Bangkok in bed. Is very worth considering. But you'll never see this.
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[QUOTE=Koi Zumi]She has a university degree, is well travelled. Not your "average" thai girl.[/QUOTE]Well, in fact most "average" Thai girls do have university degrees. Having a university degree is nothing special in this country. I know several freelancer/bgs, who have university degrees. It's where you have your degree from that makes the difference.
[QUOTE]1) if you have time. Get yourself a TG before you arrive: there are lots of sites from Asia Friendfinder to AFF, Friendster and Myspace. It's not difficult. It's great fun. It won't necessarily get you laid. But if you want to see the sights in pleasant company, you get yourself a tour guide for free. Spoken English has much improved over the years.[/QUOTE]Yes. This is true. However, if by AFF, you mean AdultFriendFinder, I would say it's a complete waste of time. You'll have much better luck on AsianFriendfinder and others. I've tried all of them at one time or another. The best I've found (been using it for years) is ThaiLoveLinks. The girls on here will tell you that they don't want guys who play games (meaning, just looking for sex), but that's not usually true. Most that I've met will shag you within a relatively short time.
My Gf was away last week. So, being off work and a bit bored, I started chatting with a girl in BKK, who started talking about sex almost immediately. I met her 2 days later on Monday last week, went to a movie and then she asked to come to my place and we shagged as soon as we got here. She wanted to stay over. But, I figured right away she was a bit clingy and looking for a BF (that's the downside of these online girls) and I needed to get rid of her immediately. So, I pretended to be sick and got her to leave. Anyway, sex doesn't usually happen that fast. It's been my experience that it takes 2 or 3 dates at least. But, you can get laid eventually with most internet girls.
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Never Ask
[QUOTE=Veterano]Yes, good report, demonstrating a grown-up approach to negotiating (don't).
Why haggle over 5 or 10 bucks one way or the other? Don't sweat the chump change and have yourself a happy chica!
Veterano[/QUOTE]I always have a price in mind and a fair one at that. I just give it and never ask "how much". Just give my price and don't haggle, if accepted we move on.
Freewolf66
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Hi RS,
Nope, definitely not a full service. But im pretty sure that these girls do accept "extras" but you have to cut the deal with them when you are inside the room. Most likely will range between 1,500 to 2K.
There are lots of MPs like this in BKK and this is just average looking gals compared to the other ones where locals really go there are some MPs that has 80% Thai-chinese and most of them are at 9 to 10 scale. I'll try to post some of the places later on.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Richo Stevens]Okey, first post - please help me out :)
Found this website ([url]http://www.thonglormassage.com[/url]) and is a bit curious of how it works, is this a fullservice place? Tried to do a search, but not much turned up, any advice or links to reports (which I guess exist, but that I can't find) would be most appreciated. Some of the girls there look amazing, so looking forward to pay them a visit next month, if they provide with what I hope they do.
Thanks guys![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Koi Zumi]
For the benefit of those that go to LOS for the first time.
A few approaches.
1) if you have time. Get yourself a TG before you arrive: there are lots of sites from Asia Friendfinder to AFF, Friendster and Myspace. It's not difficult. It's great fun. It won't necessarily get you laid. But if you want to see the sights in pleasant company, you get yourself a tour guide for free. Spoken English has much improved over the years. Traffic jams have not, in spite of the numerous highways that have been built. Try to stay near a BTS station. It works, especially during peak hours.
2) a. GoGo:
***Patpong. Actually Patpongs No. 1 and 2. Located between Silom road and Suriwong road. No need to look it up. Even a taxi driver who doesn't speak English will understand where you want to go. If you're not careful. You may get rolled here. Stay away from second floor "sex show" places. Stick to the King's Group bars. King's Castle I. Go-go bar. King's Castle II. Go-go bar. Usually packed with customers. Arguably the best in the group.) King's Castle III. Go-go bar, mainly 'katoey' dancers (transvestites/transsexuals). King's Camelot Castle. Go-go bar. The newest addition to the King's Castle group. King's Cleopatra King's Corner. Go-go bar. High proportion of 'katoey' dancers. King's Garden. Beer bar on Patpong 2. King's Lounge. Second floor disco. Gets packed after the bars close. King's Palace Queen's Castle I. One of the older 'show' bars. First bar on the left on Soi Patpong 1. Queen's Castle II Pussy Galore. Second-floor erotic shows. Maybe Patpong's most famous name.
In spite of it's bad reputation, you can't go to Bangkok and not go to Patpong
***Nana Plaza (officially Nana Entertainment Plaza; shortened NEP) lies on Sukhumvit Road Soi 4 across from the Nana hotel. It's hard to believe that this block of delapidated buildings is the center of Bangkok's nightlife.
And the brain behind it is the owner of the Rainbow bars. Rainbow 1, 2, 3, 4.compared to Patpong, Nana Plaza is trouble free. Which doesn't mean you can't find it if you're looking for it. If you can't find what you're looking for in the Rainbows try the Pretty Lady or Angelwitch (bit rowdy). There are at least four clubs at Nana Plaza with lady boys. One of the best is Cascade, on the third floor right corner as you enter the plaza. Have a look. Safer here than anywhere else. The bars open at 8. 00pm and should close by 1. 00pm. The place is built like an amphitheater with the bars on 3 levels and beer bars in the center. There is no cover charge, no dress code. But when you go in unshaven, in sandals, in shorts and wearing a T-shirt you should have washed a week ago, don't blame the girl for preferring to sit with a Japanese. The time the GoGo girls in these places will come and spent a lot of time with you for free is long gone. You're there to have fun. They're there to make a living. Some find that hard to understand. Be polite. Most of the people in Thailand are. If you like a girl. A smile will do the trick. And a ladies drink. And a few more which you should pay with grace. It's a soft drink in a small glass if you need to know. If you think you made a error of judgment. Say no to the next ladies drink. She'll understand. If you want to keep. Pay the bar fine. She'll change. And you can stay and drink normal drinks. Or go. Somewhere else. Or home
Now about the question of the girls "renumeration". Best not to discuss it if she doesn't bring it up. If she does. Baht 3000. It's a fair price for LT for something really good looking from the Rainbow. Do not negotiate. If she doesn't agree. Let go. Unless she's that 1 in a million. How long LT is will depend on the girl. And U. 10 am. 12 am. After lunch.
If after you leave the bar. And at any time before you consume the deal you feel that there is a certain distinguished change in attitude in the girl. Abort. Give her 1000 Baht and tell her to go home.
Do not get angry. Get even. Back to the bar.
***Soi Cowboy is where you find the Bangkok regulars hassle free, rip-off free, most bars are run by happy people with rarely any aggravation. This small Soi runs between Sukhumvit 23 & 21 (Asoke). You can walk from Nana (15 minutes), take a taxi or tuk-tuk or the BTS from Nana to Asoke Station. Quite a few bars restarted offering topless dancing, nude dancing (Deja Vu) and shows (one of the more popular shows' is the 10. 30 pm girl on girl show at Suzie Wong's). Other larger bars that get above average ratings include Baccara, Sheba's and Shark Club. Beer is a bit cheaper and half price during happy hours. Barfines maybe 100 Baht cheaper. If you like negotiating, can get a nice LT for 2000 Baht, especially towards closing time.
3) and 4) and 5) tomorrow.
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Information for tourists from a tourist.
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[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]Well, in fact most "average" Thai girls do have university degrees. Having a university degree is nothing special in this country. I know several freelancer/bgs, who have university degrees. It's where you have your degree from that makes the difference.
[/QUOTE]I agree that you can find freelancers with a university degree. In the better bars. But to state that most Thai girls have a university degree is an overstatement.
That a university degree no longer guarantees you a salary to live on comfortably is also true. Which is why some university graduates prefer to freelance. Don't count on bumping into one on Sukhumvit though
Even than, I must admit that even I was pleasantly surprised that the quality of the average bargirl has gone up. In terms of education and ability to communicate in English. And that makes LOS a better place too. Unless of course all you want to do is boom boom.
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[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]
My Gf was away last week. So, being off work and a bit bored, I started chatting with a girl in BKK, who started talking about sex almost immediately. I met her 2 days later on Monday last week, went to a movie and then she asked to come to my place and we shagged as soon as we got here. She wanted to stay over. But, I figured right away she was a bit clingy and looking for a BF (that's the downside of these online girls) and I needed to get rid of her immediately. So, I pretended to be sick and got her to leave.[/QUOTE]
OTH,
congrats, but not a very smart move to shag her at your own home while having a GF. Sooner or later one of your gigs may show up unexpected. Also check your PC for any tracks to them (buddy list, chat history etc.)
Good luck