Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=ArisCasa;2302812]And the 1000's of sob stories in Phil, Thai, Viet and Indo boards how they were cheated of 100 Baht or equivalent (that's USd $ 3, I guess. Cost of a starbucks medium size) by tuk tuk guys, lady drinks, doorment an NEP, the street food vendor and what not. Oh and that SIM card top up stories of not getting 100 Baht talk time. How much did one spend from home to SEA airport and back home, compared to their 1/2/4 week romp in town. Just compare.[/QUOTE]That makes me nuts. The worst are the ones that whinge over 10 baht. Or crying that they have to buy a drink at a gogo. Waaaaaaaah.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2302859]As a Philippines regular, I was very pleasantly surprised to see many [b]tall[/b] slim girls available, something I don't see a lot of there. [/QUOTE]Ladyboy alert?

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;2302957]Ladyboy alert?[/QUOTE]I wasnt talking that tall. Anything over 5' flat beats the Philippines average. 😎.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2302899]Oh, Siamsin, I absolutely agree with you about those things; confidence, game and so on. What I had cobbled together in my "Hey, go for the "9s" or the hottest girls in the bar" quote above was referencing 2-3 other posters' responses to the OP, not yours.[/QUOTE]Haven't been to Pattaya yet. Will be there in 2 days. Walked to twister and spanky. I'm twistee I was eyeing a Chinese thai mix girl on their tub. Best features, tall and really pretty. Told the server that I like her and 10 min later she was sitring with me. Bought her a drink. Rubbed some ass and asked if I can bar fine her. Was told 1000 BF and 3000/5000 for her.

At spankys, went in sat there, was eyeing a girl who was looking other side of stage, calles the mamasan and asked her if I can buu her a ld. Mamasan points her lasee pointer to a serving lady, signal her to bring Minh to me and after couple of drinks my hands were exploring all the parts where sun doesn't shine everyday. BF 700 and st 3000 requested.

I would urge everyone, don't underestimate yourself. You have the most imp things these girls want, money. That is there purpose of being there.

8,9,10 scale girl, as long as they know that you can afford them, they will be very willing to go with you.

I am from same region, never had a problem. There is a lady in Perth who advertises no African or Indians. Once offered her $100 more and she accepted the booking. Since that day I believe that your game has nothing to do with you getting girl, game can get you better or cheaper service at times, but most girls will prefer more money.

[QUOTE=RedMau5;2302762]The original poster did not mention gogo bars. He was not simply getting a "no" as a rejection, but their backs turned when he approached or talked to them and all communication stopped when he sent a photo on Thai Friendly. This has to do more than just being Indian. Race shouldn't be an excuse unless you have wiped out all other excuses, including looks, mannerisms, and hygiene. If he had girls acting rudely with backs turned on him, I can imagine it's worse at gogo bars where there is even more of a hustle. Also mama sans cannot force any girl to go with any guy. They only know who is willing to go with what type of customer. So asking mamasan or buying her a drink, is unlikely to get the top notch girl. I am sure the top notch girl has the most freedom to choose whoever she wants. That's why I recommend him lowering his standard of choice. You can only get rejected rudely so much, and it will affect newbies mentally.[/QUOTE]Mama san can't force but their suggestion is often enough. I am from same region. Already have 2 pics on TF profile.

Have met 2 TF girls in BK in last 2 days. Have some lined up for Pattaya.

I wouldn't say lower the standards, stream line his process.

[QUOTE=Siamsin;2302868]
I believe you may have misconstrued my point about giving other Indian punters some confidence if they up their game. What I was basically stating was that Indian guys (and actually any punter of any ethnic background) can pull 8's, 9's, & 10's if they've got some game. If you've got no game, no matter your ethnic background, you've got a very slim chance of constantly pulling top girls for whatever p4 p requirements you may have. Game has been mentioned a number of times on the Thailand Forum, and in essence is actually a single word that covers a vast array of factors and fundamentals that once a punter has a grasp off, will make his success at pulling top girls a lot easier. Now I don't claim to have the ultimate game, very far from that actually, but I do get by with the knowledge that I have. And for me to not come across as a 'typical' Indian has a lot to do with my game. In my reports I dropped some major hints about my attire, cologne, tipping or what I said and did, intentionally, so guys who might be having some difficulty, could pick up on it and perhaps try similar approaches.

On a Side note. Neil Strauss's book The Game, is an interesting read for guys who are finding difficulty in understanding the laws of attraction. And years ago I use to watch a very cool TV series called 'The Pick Up Artist' by Mystery and his mates, that showcase their ability to persuade and seduce really hot girls just about anywhere. Worth checking out.[/QUOTE]Talking about game, does anybody know what happened to MonkeyPaw? He hasn't posted anything for a couple of months now. Or are you the 'reincarnation' of MonkeyPaw Siamsin?

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2302969]Talking about game, does anybody know what happened to MonkeyPaw? He hasn't posted anything for a couple of months now. Or are you the 'reincarnation' of MonkeyPaw Siamsin?[/QUOTE]Haha, I'm not sure if I should take that as a compliment or not. I believe he ruffled quite a few feathers on this board. I did read some of his reports and found it very informative and helpful prior to my trip to Thailand. He certainly does come across as conceited and arrogant to some, but if what he mentions is true regarding his background and access to nearly unlimited funds, then who can blame him for his largely wild, insouciant and profligate lifestyle. That coupled with his knowledge of game definitely makes him a formidable monger imo.

Personally, I try to pick up bits of info, tactics and strategies from posts and reports by all contributing members on this forum, as you never stop learning and improving your game.

But to answer your question regarding me being the 'reincarnation' (which I find quite cheeky with me being a hindu) of Monkeypaw, the answer is obviously no. In fact, I don't even own a teddy bear. But I'm sure he is missed by many as he certainly contributed significant information to the board and wasn't just a commenter.

[QUOTE=WrongGuy;2302959]Haven't been to Pattaya yet. Will be there in 2 days. Walked to twister and spanky. I'm twistee I was eyeing a Chinese thai mix girl on their tub. Best features, tall and really pretty. Told the server that I like her and 10 min later she was sitring with me. Bought her a drink. Rubbed some ass and asked if I can bar fine her. Was told 1000 BF and 3000/5000 for her.

At spankys, went in sat there, was eyeing a girl who was looking other side of stage, calles the mamasan and asked her if I can buu her a ld. Mamasan points her lasee pointer to a serving lady, signal her to bring Minh to me and after couple of drinks my hands were exploring all the parts where sun doesn't shine everyday. BF 700 and st 3000 requested.

I would urge everyone, don't underestimate yourself. You have the most imp things these girls want, money. That is there purpose of being there.

8,9,10 scale girl, as long as they know that you can afford them, they will be very willing to go with you.

I am from same region, never had a problem. There is a lady in Perth who advertises no African or Indians. Once offered her $100 more and she accepted the booking. Since that day I believe that your game has nothing to do with you getting girl, game can get you better or cheaper service at times, but most girls will prefer more money.[/QUOTE]Generally agree with you in that virtually no game is required to get girls to "go with you" in Thailand. Especially if you are fine with basic, standard FS, everything covered, very little intimacy required from the girl. Said it on this site many times.

However, getting them to DO something as intimate and involved as BBFS+CIP, possibly BBBJ+CIM (other than in a BJ Bar and some MPs), definitely BBBJ+CIM+SWALLOW and now let's include the goal being getting that from solid 7.5+ girls and now we're talking about something no one can count on getting by just rolling out of bed, walking into a go-go bar, pointing to or having a mamasan point to a girl (the 8, 9 or 10, right?) and offering Money, Money, Money. Not in Thailand go-go bars. It's going to require something more in terms of effort, luck of the draw physically, ethnically, whatever in order to get that with some consistency.

There was no indication that even MonkeyPaw was scoring that with much consistency. And he spent TONS of Money, Money, Money and I think claimed to have the best game in Asia.

Oh, I suppose if just about anybody no matter how extreme the challenge offered 5-10 times the Money, Money, Money going rate each and every time they might get BBFS+CIP fairly consistently with go-go bar 7.5's or thereabouts. Maybe even go-go bar 8s. But I assume that is not what you were talking about in your barfine examples, right?

[QUOTE=Siamsin;2303093]. I believe he ruffled quite a few feathers on this board. [/QUOTE]Never met the guy but he did refer me to the "legendary" Claire, Miss Bottoms Contest Winner in Makati which I am grateful for. I think I would have enjoyed having San Migs with him. I, too, have ruffled some feathers on this board. Jackson even erased like a thousand of my posts (many of which were simply requests for big boob sightings and contact info haha). I'm still being moderated for reasons that have long since expired. But it's OK. I try to not be too abrasive to the offenders or just plain wrong posters but sometimes you got to do what you got to do. Anyway I think I've been on ISG for over 10 years now, made some friends and got a lot of great information on not just big boob sightings but taxis, hotels, airports, weather, etc. Really, the subscription has paid for itself many times over and I thank Jackson for not kicking me out permanently.

[QUOTE=WrongGuy;2302959]

I am from same region, never had a problem. There is a lady in Perth who advertises no African or Indians. Once offered her $100 more and she accepted the booking. Since that day I believe that your game has nothing to do with you getting girl, game can get you better or cheaper service at times, but most girls will prefer more money.[/QUOTE]There is no game as long as you pay. I don't know why people are talking about games when it comes to hookers. A hooker is a hooker, she will say all you want to hear. Your dick is small (oh your dick is big), you are ugly (you are handsome) you are fat (you are strong) you are old (you look younger), you are not interesting (they listen to you as if they are interested) you are a foreigner (I don't like local men) you were bad in bed (I loved it) etc. It's their work to adapt to the client and know how to lie because they are used to all kinds of clients and are working girls. If they always say the truth they will lose clients. Western men are dump, Indian men are cheap etc but stereotypes mean nothing. There are so many stereotypes. We Brazilian guys are known to be machos, cheaters but it's just a stereotype and I don't care. If you enjoy, there is nothing to do with your ethnicity but more with your personality.

If you fuck a girl without paying cash, we can talk about the games. Travelling miles just to get laid with farmers, it's not game.

I plan to travel to Thailand (Pattaya) not because I am homesick but because I like visiting different countries. I fuck everyday in my home country.

[QUOTE=MongerForSex;2303124]There is no game as long as you pay. I don't know why people are talking about games when it comes to hookers. A hooker is a hooker, she will say all you want to hear. Your dick is small (oh your dick is big), you are ugly (you are handsome) you are fat (you are strong) you are old (you look younger), you are not interesting (they listen to you as if they are interested) you are a foreigner (I don't like local men) you were bad in bed (I loved it) etc. It's their work to adapt to the client and know how to lie because they are used to all kinds of clients and are working girls. If they always say the truth they will lose clients. Western men are dump, Indian men are cheap etc but stereotypes mean nothing. There are so many stereotypes. We Brazilian guys are known to be machos, cheaters but it's just a stereotype and I don't care. If you enjoy, there is nothing to do with your ethnicity but more with your personality.

If you fuck a girl without paying cash, we can talk about the games. Travelling miles just to get laid with farmers, it's not game.

I plan to travel to Thailand (Pattaya) not because I am homesick but because I like visiting different countries. I fuck everyday in my home country.[/QUOTE]That's the most correct and sensible post I've read in a long time.

I can't understand the obsession on the Pattaya board about mongers wanting to prove they can pick up and bang an 8 or a 9. FFS, they are prostitutes.

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2303131]I can't understand the obsession on the Pattaya board about mongers wanting to prove they can pick up and bang an 8 or a 9. FFS, they are prostitutes.[/QUOTE]Why would a guy select an average looking girl when there's a prettier one at another bar?

We don't all have the same taste in girls anyways. One person's 8 may be another person's 5. Some guy may have barfined a girl who they thought was an 8 but after a poor session rates her a 6 for looks.

For me, pretty enough is pretty enough. All things being equal, prettier is better. But in my experience, it easier to meet a fun 7 then a fun 9, that maybe bc there are more 7's. It's usually cheaper also.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2303145]Why would a guy select an average looking girl when there's a prettier one at another bar?

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[QUOTE=MongerForSex;2302885] We don't care who pick the hottest hooker as long as you pay there is no game. No money no honey thailand. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WrongGuy;2302959]I would urge everyone, don't underestimate yourself. You have the most imp things these girls want, money. That is there purpose of being there.
8,9,10 scale girl, as long as they know that you can afford them, they will be very willing to go with you. I am from same region, never had a problem. There is a lady in Perth who advertises no African or Indians. Once offered her $100 more and she accepted the booking. Since that day I believe that your game has nothing to do with you getting girl, game can get you better or cheaper service at times, but most girls will prefer more money.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MongerForSex;2303124]There is no game as long as you pay. I don't know why people are talking about games when it comes to hookers. A hooker is a hooker, she will say all you want to hear. Your dick is small (oh your dick is big), you are ugly (you are handsome) you are fat (you are strong) you are old (you look younger), you are not interesting (they listen to you as if they are interested) you are a foreigner (I don't like local men) you were bad in bed (I loved it) etc. It's their work to adapt to the client and know how to lie because they are used to all kinds of clients and are working girls. If they always say the truth they will lose clients. Western men are dump, Indian men are cheap etc but stereotypes mean nothing. There are so many stereotypes. We Brazilian guys are known to be machos, cheaters but it's just a stereotype and I don't care. If you enjoy, there is nothing to do with your ethnicity but more with your personality.

If you fuck a girl without paying cash, we can talk about the games. Travelling miles just to get laid with farmers, it's not game.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2303131]That's the most correct and sensible post I've read in a long time.

I can't understand the obsession on the Pattaya board about mongers wanting to prove they can pick up and bang an 8 or a 9. FFS, they are prostitutes.[/QUOTE]I do agree with you guys to an extent that money will pretty much open any set of shapely legs in the p4 p scene. But how many punters are actually that exceptionally wealthy? Picture a rough looking, overweight dude with just got out of bed attire, walking into a top gogo bar and signalling 1 of the top 5 girls to go with him. His chances are absolutely zero. However, if he gives the mamasan 2 k and tells the girl he'll give her 20 k /30 k for ST with his requirements, I'm pretty sure she'll bite the bullet and consider it. Likewise with the Online Scene of ThaiFriendly and other dating apps which I'm more familiar with, where first impressions and profile pictures count, I can assure you that the exact same guy I described above will have zero chance of getting responses from the hottest girls on there, with a profile photo of him standing in a park or in his Speedos on the beach. But if he showcases his lifestyle with photos of him next to his Ferrari's, on his luxury catamaran, wearing a custom Bijan suit and matching Rolex etc, I'm pretty sure his inbox would be full.

Unfortunately most of us aren't that exceptionally wealthy, and that's where Game comes in. In the p4 p4 scene, it's the ability to pay a fair rate for the requirements the punter expects, and get all that from 8, 9 or 10 WG's constantly. Further perks of having good Game is to later spend much less or no money when repeating with some of these girls, just out of your pure ability to seduce and intoxify them with your charm. Game goes beyond WG's in that you're able to pull ordinary chicks from just about anywhere. It works especially well in Thailand where sex, sexual preferences and sexuality is openly accepted. Thai girls are far more liberal when it comes to sex and 1 night stands with foreigners, so having good game definitely helps.

Every single 1 of us has and uses some sort of game whether we know it or not. It's not just what you say to women, but everything about you, before you even say a word. Your demeanor, body language, attire, build, hygiene, multilingualism ability, scent, aura, approach etc. Hot girls get hit on every single day of their lives. Be it walking around the mall, in their neighborhoods, at work, gym, out with friends, on their social media accounts, everywhere. I asked 1 of my Thai friendly hookups when last she had used the app, and in my presence she logged in and within a minute of her being online, she had over 30 messages, an exorbitant number of profile visits and a couple of dick pics (LOL. Who the fuck does that shit) in that short space of time. She just looked at me and said, that's why she doesn't use it anymore. Having good game allows you to stand out from the crowd, be noticed, banter, and bed the girl you desire.

In the p4 p scene most punters, be it expats, holiday makers, business travelers, returning spouses etc, have budgets or limits that they abide to. Blowing your entire pussy budget on a few 9's or 10's in a space of 5 days of your 14 day vakay for example, isn't very smart if your intention to get those girls is offering them more money. But having good game when chatting to that 9 or 10, negging her, making her laugh, bantering, building rapport and curiosity, will easily allow you to get her to agree to some if not all your requirements for an acceptable rate. After a session with her, possibly see her at a reduced rate or no charge, hook you up with a friend, maybe even persuade her into a threesome. There's plenty of posts on the Thailand forum about guys that don't pay for sex or have a set few girls they see for casual rendezvous and that all boils down to their game imo.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2303145]Why would a guy select an average looking girl when there's a prettier one at another bar?

We don't all have the same taste in girls anyways. One person's 8 may be another person's 5. Some guy may have barfined a girl who they thought was an 8 but after a poor session rates her a 6 for looks.[/QUOTE]My point was that there's no need for the pissing contest as to who can get a 9 and who can't. They are all poorly educated prostitutes from poor rural backgrounds. Last time I looked, gold medals weren't being awarded to mongers with the most kills LOL.