Cartagena Reports

[QUOTE=UrbanWildlife]... As far as my comment about a puta is a puta, we are both correct. I clearly stated that if you are only after sex with her, then there is no need to give her gifts, e.c.t., especially if you are going to be one of the big 200, 300, or 400,000CP players. If you are going to see her again, and develop an ongoing friendship, then I feel it is a nice gesture to buy her a gift, or do something to show your appreciation towards her, and more than likely you will be rewarded for it, as it is all about building chemistry. I do not feel if you are with a puta for one night that you are immediately going to give her a gift previous to getting down with her, or am I missing something here? ...[/QUOTE]To be honest, I think you're putting a little too much thought into the gift giving deal.

I'm talking about giving the chica a small box of chocolates that costs me about 80 centavos at Walmart not buying her a BMW.

I don't care if I'm going to see her again or not, it's just a small gift to say gracias ... big deal.

[QUOTE=UrbanWildlife] .. I have also enjoyed your comments and posts, but unlike others I do not look at you as my hero!. Sorry my friend. ;). It is not necessary for me to have a hero in mongering, as I can do just fine by myself. ;) ... [/QUOTE]Hahahaha ... that's funny :)

Do you really think I'm looking to be anyone's hero? Of course not.

I'm pretty sure guys are just joking around

I have a feeling though, if we ever met in person, we'd get along well.

I think we agree on most things, though for sure you're just a bit more intense than I am.

Take care.

[QUOTE=UrbanWildlife] ... Remember, conversation gets the girls, making them laugh, and creating a party atmosphere with them, providing them a BFE.... [/QUOTE]Really? Thanks for the tip.

Isn't that what we've beeen saying here all along?

That's exactly what the Dodger was saying.

[QUOTE=UrbanWildlife]Ricker,

Since you have become a hero to other mongers, maybe you should start a mongering school teaching your Rico Sauve ways to your fellow mongers who want to be just like you! What do you think? ;)[/QUOTE]To be honest, I'm not really a Rico Suave type of guy. That would be Roberto of the Castillo in Medellin.

You should see me try to dance the Salsa

Really, probably much like yourself, I speak pretty good spanish, and my portuguese is improving daily too, and I'm good at making the chicas laugh and feel comfortable. I differ though as I believe you can take the game out of the pro. And that's part of the fun for me.

Forget the opening of a school idea.

It's actually very easy.

Learn to speak spanish (most important I think you'd agree)

Make them laugh (the chicas)

Treat them nicely. But know when to walk away if needed.

But if you'd like for me to tutor you, I'm sure we could come up with something. Hahaha. Just joking amigo

Take care

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver] ... I have to respectfully DISAGREE with the "Maestro Ricker" Even so I make a heart felt attempt to treat ALL women/hoes with the utmost respect, It really pays off most of the time. Some of these viejas are just to far along in the game that all the schmoozing in the world will not turn their black, clock watching hearts and price negotiating is a must. Hopefully though you would know the hard-core pros from the sweet ones before you even close the deal! [/QUOTE]Hey amiguito,

Actually I agree wih you.

Of course you can't schmooze past the hardened pro, but then again, I never choose them for their company either.

You know me Heat, if the chica ain't dulce and I don't feel the love, I move on rapidisimo!

See ya in Cali.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver] ... 2 old sayings: #1 You made your bed, now sleep in it! and #2 You can take the hoe out of the game BUT you cant take the game out of the hoe! They deserve EVERYTHING coming to them and MORE![/QUOTE]Well. I agree with saying numero 1. Makes sense, we've all heard it before.

Number 2. I really don't get.

Bottom line for me. You just can't group all these chicas (pros) into one group. You know as well as I do, they are all different, some sweet ones, some bitches, some fun ones, some not, etc, etc. The game can most defenitely be taken out of the hoe (as you put it), if she digs ya.

The part you wrote about them deserving everything coming to them and more. I really don't get that at all.

What exactly do they deserve? What have they done to you besides provide sexual fun for a price?

If you don't like the chica or the price, move on.

Take care amigo.

[QUOTE=Ricker]Well. I agree with saying numero 1. Makes sense, we've all heard it before.

Number 2. I really don't get.

Bottom line for me. You just can't group all these chicas (pros) into one group. You know as well as I do, they are all different, some sweet ones, some bitches, some fun ones, some not, etc, etc. The game can most defenitely be taken out of the hoe (as you put it), if she digs ya.

The part you wrote about them deserving everything coming to them and more. I really don't get that at all.

What exactly do they deserve? What have they done to you besides provide sexual fun for a price?

If you don't like the chica or the price, move on.

Take care amigo.[/QUOTE]What I was referring to about "get the game out of the hoe" Can be done on a temporary case by case basis I agree. But LONG TERM? I don't think so. The the "captain save a hoe" attitude that some mongers, tourists or whatever try to accomplish with some of these girls and then the girl in the girl really "plays" him with the sending of western union's for "school, emergency surgery or babies" don't forget these types of girls are pros and are expert extortionists. As I said prior hopefully you WILL know the difference between the the hardcore pros and the sweet ones it is easy for someone with experience. I have never said that you need to lump them together because for me the vast majority of the ones I have been with are sweet. The comment about "They deserve everything coming to them' was referring to the mongers that let themselves be put in that position for blinding extortion. I was NOT referring to the ladies. Keep doing your thing!

Come on dodger Bulldog.

Seriously, I read a report from a fellow traveler whom was with a girl I now in CTG named Maria, where he let her use his laptop to read her e-mail. After she left, he looked at his laptop and saw that she had left her e-mail account in. It appears that this girl had SEVERAL suiters sending her money for various things.

Attached here is Maria, she can suck a golfball through a gardenhose.

This is an art not a science. The more new techniques you know the better. Butt there is no clear cut set of rules for any chica, we all have different goals, if you can accomplish your mission, great. And help others even better.

Some members of this site seem to have a little animosity towards the girls, I won't mention any of the members. My guess is that they are still not over the U. S. Females. The more time you waste be begrudging the less chance you get of finding a real loving chica, that you mite already know butt are too bitter to see, just a thought.

Whatever works I say. I don't tip, tipping is for when I paid money for goods and I tip for the service but when I am paying for the service I don't see the point of tipping. I don't bring gifts either. But that said, I don't see either of those things as a sucker's move especially when it is not excessive. I have bought booze to have in room for the chicas. For me, it is better for a monger to invest in learning spanish to be able to develop a rapport with the chicas and have music in the room or apartment. Not just music that you like but music that appeals to them. I try to keep current with music that is popular in a given country and I have diverse collection that will appeal to a wide variety of individual taste. An iPod with a wide variety of music and decent portable speakers does the trick. It usually gets them going and keeps them around longer. It tends work even better than the booze and is not a recurring cost. Depending on where they are from they may be into vallenato, hip hop, reggae, regueton, salsa, electronic or rock. Be sure to keep an ample amount of each on hand even it isn't your thing.

[QUOTE=MJG Dogs]Come on dodger Bulldog.

Seriously, I read a report from a fellow traveler whom was with a girl I now in CTG named Maria, where he let her use his laptop to read her e-mail. After she left, he looked at his laptop and saw that she had left her e-mail account in. It appears that this girl had SEVERAL suiters sending her money for various things.

Attached here is Maria, she can suck a golfball through a gardenhose.[/QUOTE]Cool. The exact same thing happened with one of my chicas last week.

I felt a little guilty, but couldn't resist reading her email. It was like staring at a train wreck.

I counted five airplane tickets that were sent to her in the past twelve months. Two of the trips had dates that overlapped.

She was even supposed to be out of the country at the very moment I was with her. She had flown to Chile with plans to marry a guy, but had returned to Cartagena after only eight days.

She had told me earlier that her allergies bothered her in Santiago, but my guess is that the poor sucker must have run out of money.

A total of nine guys sent her Western Union at least once.

You see, she just had this incredible run of bad luck, what with her family problems, illnesses, lack of rent money, and all...

One guy, from another Latin country no less, sent her a very specific amount of 1,278,562 pesos every month for ten consecutive months before he finally gave up.

You should have seen the flowery emails she wrote back to him, even though she can't spell at all.

A New Yorker told her that he had just received 220 million pesos from his retirement account, so he could easily afford to send her 8 million.

She sent him back a one sentence reply:

"te deso tedeso tedeseo pienso mucho enti te recuerdo quiero tener xeso con tigo" (I told you she can't spell worth a shit.)

Wanna bet he had only ever fucked her once?

It makes the 100,000 I paid her for four hours seem totally inadequate. I am almost feeling ashamed of myself, LOL.

Even the exorbitant amount of 300,000 that one fellow negotiated pales in comparison.

Seeing how it only took all of two men to pay this chica over 20 million pesos between them, the amounts we are are quibling about here are very small potatoes indeed.

Even still, those well-heeled others have not "influenced" her pricing structure to soar above my means. At least not yet.

Should that happen, I would just move along to another chica who has yet to strike it rich.

And to think, this is a totally sweet and innocent young girl who I would be very proud to take home to my mother...

More power to her. There's a sucker born every minute!

DB

El Presidente;

The idea here is to help fellow travelers. Nobody is bitter. What we are doing is trying to show some of our brothers the reality of what a waste it is to send money to a working chica. It is like pissing against the wind.

US females are a waste of time, that is why most of us are here.

Dodger Bulldog;

100K for 4 hours is about $ 57, which is not that bad, considering you can pay
a Del rey chica about $100-150 for the same timeframe.

The ironic thing is that in my experiences knowing and talking to the working chicas, some of them are really clever about having guys send them money. I guess if you look at it, they are in Sales, and some are very good saleswomen. Some have outstanding customer service and are very good in getting the follow on purchase orders, some even offer multiple volumes discounts, some offer buy nine get the tenth one free.

I know of a working girl in CR that has banked over $ 500,000 USD in 7 years of work, and owns a house in Heredia. I met her in 2002, and only went with her a couple of times, she was fun, but I always would talk to her in the afternoon at the Blue Marlin. I had given here a copy of Money magazine and she would come by the house (I lived in CR for about 8 months) and would be glued to Bloomberg Televison. This is an uneducated Dominicana that had good streets smarts and unliked 99% of the chicas, LISTENED, when she came by the house once in a while she would stay over, but usually it was to hang out

I know of another CTG chica, that puts a lot of her earnings up her nose, so it cuts both ways.

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[QUOTE=El Presedente]Some members of this site seem to have a little animosity towards the girls, I won't mention any of the members. My guess is that they are still not over the U. S. Females. The more time you waste be begrudging the less chance you get of finding a real loving chica, that you mite already know butt are too bitter to see, just a thought.[/QUOTE]It is important when mongering to have the proper perspective. Some guys may be overly suspicious because they have been burnt in the past and that takes some of the fun out of the game. While others let their egos or sometimes their quest for love get the best of them and it ends up costing them a lot of money and grief.

I will flirt, dance and have enjoyed some great GFE experience but at the end of the day it is a business transaction. While I prefer the illusion of dating that comes with the freelance scene I am not deluded and in my 8 years of mongering never had a chica look for me to pay for more than services rendered. I have even had chicas that gave me right of first refusal when I am in town but I am under no illusions about what happens when I am not there. If I get contact information it is to secure the services of a great performer who I may want to early in morning before a flight or to start a trip off right when I come back. However, keeping in regular contact when I get home is hardly worth the trouble and telling some pro about my financial situation so she can hit me up for money for help with her "troubles" is downright silly.

So some of these guys may seem "bitter" to you but more likely they are trying to keep things in perspective for the next guy who decides he wants to break the bank for a "real loving chica" only to get burnt. Stories abound of guys who got screwed out of considerable money, fell victims of extortion schemes and in extreme cases loss their lives pursuing "love" with a chica. Not to mention the nightmare of the guys who import them and marry them.

The value of this site is not the pictures and the sex stories but the wealth of knowledge gain from other mongers' experience that allows us to avoid certain pitfalls. But as I have experienced in my travels for some guys no amount of forewarning will prevent them from allowing their ego or quest for true love putting them in situations that end up costing them dearly.

Perhaps we should give you your own thread, for obviously you are far far ahead of all of us, what do you think Jackson? I think he deserves his own thread, like you gave KOS and NGP, before you banned him.