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I ordered Eva last Thursday for a date of 10 hours. One hour before the date they would call me in the hotel. At that moment they told me to pay to the driver 940 EUR.

Then the girl arrived with the driver. It wasn't the girl from the picture. She was a older and white. But looked OK. But definitely not so hot as the girl in the picture. I paid the driver.

After three hours the girl faked she got miserable. She told me to contact the agency and left. The agency didn't react on any e-mail and didn't answer any phonecalls from me. It was clear to me my money is gone. 1040 EUR. Three hours included extras would be 500 EUR. 540 EUR were gone.

Conclusion: photos are fake and never pay the driver.

This agency is a big scam.

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Sorry this happened to you. It is not the first time that the Unforgettable Escorts agency has been reported to do this. There was a similar report on the international section of the big American review site for Unforgettable Escorts.

I am copying this section from my post #1785 of March 19,2016 to note their affiliates that you should also not use.

"There are a couple of agencies and conglomerates to be cautious of. A group of independents came together and formed Best Escorts Portugal, which appeared promising since many of the ladies had been operating independently for a long time, but in the very first review of them on the big American review site, an experienced reviewer indicated that he received a blatant bait and switch and terrible performance.

There is a conglomerate of escort services that link to each other. Easy Outcall Escort, Unforgettable Escorts, Attraction Escorts, Lissabon Escorts, Delightful Escorts, Flirt Escorts, Escorts Lisbon, Cascais Escorts, Estoril Escorts, and Algarve Holiday Escorts that appear to be one big agency. There are very few, if any, reviews of this group other than a blatantly fake review on this site that a guy got called out on. I tried to communicate with them once and I found them to be rude. I did not have a good impression of them. ".

Seriously guys, don't use Google Searches to find escorts anywhere in the world without verifying what you find by reading reviews on sites like ISG and / or local review boards for Portugal.

The sites that pop-up first on Google Searches in the sex industry are often ones that pay people in India to type their names in over and over on Google. Then they rip off customers. There is a lot of sleaze in this business.

This "conglomerate" that includes Unforgettable Escorts is really bad news. They target unsuspecting foreigners who find them via internet searches and they have no trustable positive reviews on any site.

[QUOTE=CrazyJerome;2248454]I ordered Eva last Thursday for a date of 10 hours. One hour before the date they would call me in the hotel. At that moment they told me to pay to the driver 940 EUR.

Then the girl arrived with the driver. It wasn't the girl from the picture. She was a older and white. But looked OK. But definitely not so hot as the girl in the picture. I paid the driver.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CrazyJerome;2248454]I ordered Eva last Thursday for a date of 10 hours. One hour before the date they would call me in the hotel. At that moment they told me to pay to the driver 940 EUR...[/QUOTE]With just one post under your belt your story sounds suspicious. Even if it's genuine, if you pledge 1000 euros before even having seen the girl and handed over the money after seeing for yourself she was not the right girl, you asked for it.

[QUOTE=XXL;2248757]With just one post under your belt your story sounds suspicious. Even if it's genuine, if you pledge 1000 euros before even having seen the girl and handed over the money after seeing for yourself she was not the right girl, you asked for it.[/QUOTE]The guy on the other review site who told a similar story had a lot of posts all over the world. If I recall correctly, he booked three hours and she left after a half hour or so and insinuated that if he complained she might allege that he did something inappropriate.

My question for CrazyJerome is whether he knew of this site prior to the booking? If so, why did you use them?

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2248763]The guy on the other review site who told a similar story had a lot of posts all over the world. If I recall correctly, he booked three hours and she left after a half hour or so and insinuated that if he complained she might allege that he did something inappropriate.

My question for CrazyJerome is whether he knew of this site prior to the booking? If so, why did you use them?[/QUOTE]As I follow this this exchange, I can't help thinking that the old-style incall places are a safer bet for the less-experienced, non-locals. EP ladies surely are better looking and likely give better service, but probably not to the less-experienced, and even they appear to be less than advertised (naturally, BTW). So I would be grateful for info on places like the Nuru Spa Lisbon that Lucknow reported and other massage places that provide full service at reasonable cost.

Hi,

A follow-up on my previous post. As Kama Leao recommended Elena Russa, I looked up Docemassagem's Centros & Spas page at [URL]http://www.docemassagem.com/centros_e_spas.html[/URL]. At least one or two places advertised there have been mentioned in this board as offering a broader menu than what their web pages specify. The problem is that in most cases there is no street / floor / apt address, and communication is always difficult.

So, Kama Leao and all other good people, can you provide full addresses for, E. G, Allure Spa, Heiwa Spa, as well as Buda Center in Estoril and Sakura in Cascais. Are they into more than massage? The more the merrier.

Regards,

PZ.

[QUOTE=Pecadozinho;2248890]As I follow this this exchange, I can't help thinking that the old-style incall places are a safer bet for the less-experienced, non-locals. EP ladies surely are better looking and likely give better service, but probably not to the less-experienced, and even they appear to be less than advertised (naturally, BTW). So I would be grateful for info on places like the Nuru Spa Lisbon that Lucknow reported and other massage places that provide full service at reasonable cost.[/QUOTE]Probably nothing easier for a tourist than calling, emailing and / or whatsapping Escort Privada (in English) and arranging for a specific lady to arrive at your hotel room at a specific time, knock on the door, and being naked within 5 to 10 minutes of the knock on the door.

With respect to your other comments, anyone is of course welcome to post what they want, but there are some issues to consider.

You seem to prefer walking into an incall without an appointment at a published address with the beforehand knowledge that sex will be available.

1. Europe, with the exception of Germany, has been moving away from the model of a lot of girls sitting around awaiting your arrival in the hope that you will choose one of them. The best looking women, in my opinion, primarily work via appointment. That requires some reasonable communication and appointment making. Technology makes that easier, and it is possible with Google Translate to interact with someone who doesn't speak your native tongue. Many of us would prefer the old walk-in brothel system, but the younger and hotter ladies seem to prefer the efficiencies of scheduling specific appointments and having the freedom to live their lives as they choose while not "in session". Note on this board and on the local board how fewer reviews exist today than a decade ago of walk-in line-up brothels.

2. Prostitution is legal in Portugal, but pimping, pandering and operating a brothel is not. Many massage parlors where bbbjtcim is offered just might not be too eager to indicate on their website that they have 10 ladies on staff offering bbbjtcim. Don't forget that one of Lisbon's best known line-up brothels, Michelle's, was in fact shut down.

3. Similar to number 2, even if law enforcement isn't involved (and there is very little law enforcement activity in Portugal with respect to this activity), many apartment brothels technically violate the terms of their lease. If the exact nature of their activities is posted online in the same post as their exact address, they could have problems with a landlord. Also, for the independents, a few use the apartment where they live, as did a lady I saw not long ago in Barcelona. Pretty sure she wouldn't appreciate having her exact apartment address and unit number posted online.

For most of Europe other than Germany and for North America, the standard technique for incall is for the approximate location (nearby street intersection) to be listed online so that a person can get very near the address prior to the appointment, and for him to get the exact address, including the keypad code (if any) a few minutes before the appointment time. Those exact details are generally not posted online.

It is always a good idea to have WhatsApp, Google Translate, and the foreign numbers one through nine in numerical and ordinal format handy for any last minute translations, although most buildings in western Europe actually use English numbers. The street names are well marked in Portugal, taxis are inexpensive, and people are friendly. So plenty of guys here on ISG are able to do incall quite easily without exact addresses and apartment numbers being published.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2248169]2. Google "photos of typical Portuguese women" and open the Images tab that appears. The Lisbon escorts that you will encounter look a hell of a lot like the 20-30 year olds in those photos. Portuguese women have a distinctive look that often involves a more angular face with a more prominent nose than other parts of Europe. Some guys will find that more attractive than other guys. Same with Romanian girls at FKK clubs, some guys are more attracted to them than other guys. The French reviewer that first recommended EP to me told me that Sara Valente was a great fuck but he thought she was ugly, compared to the French and Russian women he saw in Paris. I saw Sara and when I told him I found her to be very cute (and a good fuck) he thought I was nuts. But the video of her is definitely real (and the dog looks real too). I have seen her three times and still find her to be facially attractive.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-SaraValente-2534.html[/URL].[/QUOTE]Thanks so much Mongerer88. Sara was high up on my list but I saw some reviews in the local board that said she looked like she was in her 30's. Whats you opinion, does she look close to her posted age of 24? That body looks amazing.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2249215]Probably nothing easier for a tourist than calling, emailing and / or whatsapping Escort Privada (in English) and arranging for a specific lady to arrive at your hotel room at a specific time, knock on the door, and being naked within 5 to 10 minutes of the knock on the door.

With respect to your other comments, anyone is of course welcome to post what they want, but there are some issues to consider.

You seem to prefer walking into an incall without an appointment at a published address with the beforehand knowledge that sex will be available.

1. Europe, with the exception of Germany, has been moving away from the model of a lot of girls sitting around awaiting your arrival in the hope that you will choose one of them. The best looking women, in my opinion, primarily work via appointment. That requires some reasonable communication and appointment making. Technology makes that easier, and it is possible with Google Translate to interact with someone who doesn't speak your native tongue. Many of us would prefer the old walk-in brothel system, but the younger and hotter ladies seem to prefer the efficiencies of scheduling specific appointments and having the freedom to live their lives as they choose while not "in session". Note on this board and on the local board how fewer reviews exist today than a decade ago of walk-in line-up brothels..[/QUOTE]Mongere88,

With my paltry 7 posts I can't match you formidable 1400+, but I know my personal limitations. I am not technology-challenged. Still, I do face operational difficulties in communicating while abroad, Google Translate, Whatapp, etc. Notwithstanding. In addition, Irie73's post (#2768) clearly indicates that well-coordinated incalls / outcalls can go sour, too. So if people can share valuable address information on places that offer the full service menu here in this forum that would be lovely. There is room for people like me in the food chain. This forum can be helpful for us, too humbly.

[QUOTE=Pecadozinho;2248894]Kama Leao and all other good people, can you provide full addresses for, E. G, Allure Spa, Heiwa Spa, as well as Buda Center in Estoril and Sakura in Cascais. Are they into more than massage? The more the merrier.[/QUOTE]As a matter of fact, I don't even remember the name of the spa where I met Elena Russa. But I do remember it was in Rua Afonso Lopes Vieira, nº 56 B (a cross street from Avenida do Brasil, near Campo Grande). When you get there, you must call her (or text her) and she'll open you the street door. And, as I said before, she's into so much more than just massage... Come to think of it, I actually skipped the massage bit... LOL.

About the other ones you mention I know nothing.

[QUOTE=Dartanian100;2249367]Thanks so much Mongerer88. Sara was high up on my list but I saw some reviews in the local board that said she looked like she was in her 30's. Whats you opinion, does she look close to her posted age of 24? That body looks amazing.[/QUOTE]Mid to late 20's. She said she is taking college slowly and in her own terms, but she hasn't hit the big three oh yet.

Pictures and video are very accurate regarding her body, which is top notch, especially after the breast work that lifted them up and got rid of the stretch marks that plague naturally busty women with thin frames.

Some guys are attracted to her face, and some aren't. She has the classic Portuguese face.

Her local board reviews are mediocre because she once worked under a completely different name as an independent at 100 euros an hour and got fantastic reviews. When she started working at Escortprivada at 150 euros an hour, she started getting blasted on her local board reviews. She told me that several of those mediocre reviews are simply made up.

Anyway, I have always liked her and I have found her performance to be absolutely excellent. I have seen her three times and had no trouble doing two cums in an hour each time. But we all have different opinions and preferences.

There are plenty of newer younger ladies at EP, but unfortunately we just don't have reviews of them yet. Many have stunning pictures.

The youngest well-reviewed lady is of course Carlotta, and one guy here on ISG saw both Carlotta and Sara and seemed to prefer Carlotta. But without question Sara has larger breasts than Carlotta.

Edit: I just took a quick look at Sara’s local reviews. The three bad ones are from a guy who always does terrible scores based on how much higher the rate is than the Portuguese minimum wage (which is what he must earn), one from a guy who always gives lousy scores to any lady who asks him questions designed to engage in conversation (Sara is very friendly) or when a lady talks about what she has been learning in “liberal” college classes, and one guy who wrote three disheartening bad reviews in which he seemed to suggest that if anal is not available a person should yell at the escort until she does that activity (I didn’t think his review of Ana Castro where he did that should have been accepted). Sara is pretty headstrong so I don’t see her going for that type of behavior. Other than that she gets 7s 8s and 9s out of ten, with plenty of guys saying she is pretty, has a great body and delivers solid performance.

[QUOTE=GreenBanana;1787845]Hello guys,

I reviewed this week some casas downtown, and discovered a 'new' one which offers excellent value for money.

Clinique de massagem, avenida Marques de Tomar, 5/1, is now closed. The full floor is under re-construction.

I went then to New Center, av Marques de Tomar, 33/5th floor. The casa is now in very poor conditions. Showers are semi-broken, walls would deserve painting, sheets are doubtful. At 4:30 pm there were 4 girls. I went with Madaleina, a brunette in her 40-ies, not a beauty but OK BBBJ service. 60 euros half an hour, 80 3/4 of an hour, 100 an hour. This is much too pricey for the quality of the place and girls.

Paid a visit to Jardim do Eden, av. Joo XXI, 43/3 (left). The flat is in good conditions. 4 girls were there: a black, a crioula, and two locals: Jessica and Soraya. Both of them quite pretty, but delivering CBJ only. Same prices than New Center. I left without consuming.

Av. Roma, 39/4 sounded closed. None answered..[/QUOTE]Here is a post that gives you the address of New Center, which there are reports as late as 2018 of it being open.

But the report demonstrates the quality issues.

I just don't see why it is a big deal to text / WhatsApp / e-mail a lady, that's all.

It seems to be how the world works now.

I'm planning my next trip to Lisbon and will need some tips from you.

I want to meet most good looking (both in face and body) escort girl of the town without age limitation and want to have good service too.

Who would be you choice?

What if the girls should also be young, who would be your choice then?

Have you ever called an escort to your hotel and when you opened the door for her, you realized that this lady is something else you were expecting, and then just nicely said no thank you and closed the door in front of her?.

Would this be possible to do in Lisbon?

I know several countries where you can turn around from the door in case you would visit an incall escort and she does not please you but how would it work here?

[QUOTE=McScrew69;2249620]I'm planning my next trip to Lisbon and will need some tips from you.

I want to meet most good looking (both in face and body) escort girl of the town without age limitation and want to have good service too.

Who would be you choice?

What if the girls should also be young, who would be your choice then?[/QUOTE]Hopefully you are not the same McScrew (with just a 69 added to a new registration) who asked a lot of questions a year or so ago and never responded with any field reports.

Post 2767 gives you a number of strong possibilities for younger ladies who receive compliments for facial beauty and reviews for excellent performance that includes at least BBBJ and often CIM. The performance reviews, including whether anal and CIM are offered for each lady, are available by reading the thread. Among the ladies mentioned in post 2767 are Paula Borges, Bia Barbosa and Lara Shultze.

Another you might consider based on local board reviews complimenting her body and facial beauty is Rita Fuzeiro, who got a very good service review that included BBBJ. But reviews are always difficult to evaluate. A guy who just gave her a 9 out of ten on the local board pretty much always gives out good scores on his multitudes of reviews and seems happy with this activity. Other reviewers of Rita have given her lower scores, but they seem to always give out 4's, 5's and 6's out of 10's and they never seem pleased. Makes you wonder why they do this at all.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-RitaFuzeiro-3746.html[/URL]

Based on photos on the site, Madalena Fonseca of Escortprivada seems to have a beautiful face, and her service offerings includes CIM. It would be great to have reviews for her, but there aren't any yet.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/madalena-fonseca/[/URL]

With respect to your other question, in my opinion, it would be completely unacceptable to refuse a lady who has taken the time and effort to have traveled to your location, or for an incall situation, to have foregone another appointment (and she likely traveled to her incall place just for that appointment, also.).