[QUOTE=Awesome Man]What do you think about Salisbury YMCA and The Cityview (formerly YMCA Mong Kok)?[/QUOTE]Don't know about Cityview but Salisbury is definitely NOT GF. Maybe the only place in HK that isn't GF.
QH
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[QUOTE=Awesome Man]What do you think about Salisbury YMCA and The Cityview (formerly YMCA Mong Kok)?[/QUOTE]Don't know about Cityview but Salisbury is definitely NOT GF. Maybe the only place in HK that isn't GF.
QH
Just had a great session with "Ka Ka" at 37 Dundas. 24 year old from Kunming, Yunnan province. 5 foot 5 inches a bit rounded but still firm. Great attitude, good BBBJ skills, likes to have fun herself. 480 was the damage.
I counted 27 steps from the front door to Nathan Road, and it took me ten minutes to walk back the Holiday Inn Golden Mile. I'll try the Harri's Bar tonight and report later.
N3801
[QUOTE=Qiao Han]Don't know about Cityview but Salisbury is definitely NOT GF. Maybe the only place in HK that isn't GF.
QH[/QUOTE]
I've stayed at the Evergreen Hotel and never seen anything remotely close to a WG. I'd consider this non GF as well.
But it IS one the cheaper hotels near TST (it's in Jordan, close to Kpressure and New Lucky House).
[QUOTE=Rick Hunter]The second is many of the local Chinese or Indian guys who would want to go to the discos are cheap charlies and do not spend any money and they are not the type of cliental the discos want.
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These are generalizations and yes they are racist ... [/QUOTE]
This "cheap charlie" point is a very real reason. In general terms (and I'm sure this is not actually contentious) most HK-ers and Indians prefer not to drink as much alcohol as the expats do who frequent this type of place. Yes, there are exceptions, and some of them are friends of my group, but in general this is true. There is a variety of reasons for this, but it is a very real cultural difference. To the bar owners this is a problem. Valuable floor space is being taken up by non-drinking observers. The bar owners pay their rent and bills by selling alcohol. If the bar owners can't get income through alcohol sales, they will charge an entrance fee. Simple economics.
No, Rick, the analysis is not "racist". You have fallen into the PC trap here. Simply because the analysis is explained because of cultural differences does not make it "racist". The fact is that cultural differences lead to different preferences and life styles.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=BruceTea]I've stayed at the Evergreen Hotel and never seen anything remotely close to a WG. I'd consider this non GF as well.[/QUOTE]
And the Bishop Lei Hotel up on Robinson Road. Run by church staff. A friend of mine had a real hassle there a few years back.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Uncle Goober]
No, Rick, the analysis is not "racist". You have fallen into the PC trap here. Simply because the analysis is explained because of cultural differences does not make it "racist". The fact is that cultural differences lead to different preferences and life styles.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]
I was simply trying to explain the situation in a PC manner for the board and not just in cold economic language as many people from just passing through from Europe/USA come from such an amazingly PC environment that it is hard to explain the interaction of races is Hong Kong as it is here on the ground without being viewed as a racist. If there were many Indians throwing cash around in the bars then I am sure they would be very welcomed by the owners. Oh the bars do charge the US Navy cover fees when they come into town as well, for the same reason, many of the young Navy guys can be pretty cheap and harass the girls.
[QUOTE=Rick Hunter] Oh the bars do charge the US Navy cover fees when they come into town as well, for the same reason, many of the young Navy guys can be pretty cheap and harass the girls.[/QUOTE]
The discos certainly do charge the navy an entrance fee. (Not the gogo bars, however, which actually offer the navy cheap beer and cut price escort fees. Go figure.)
But, of course, most of the girls - well the flippers at least - actually love the attention of the young gwapo navy guys. They tell us older guys that they hate the navy, but of course that is not really the case for most of the girls.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Uncle Goober]This "cheap charlie" point is a very real reason. In general terms (and I'm sure this is not actually contentious) most HK-ers and Indians prefer not to drink as much alcohol as the expats do who frequent this type of place. Yes, there are exceptions, and some of them are friends of my group, but in general this is true. There is a variety of reasons for this, but it is a very real cultural difference. To the bar owners this is a problem. Valuable floor space is being taken up by non-drinking observers. The bar owners pay their rent and bills by selling alcohol. If the bar owners can't get income through alcohol sales, they will charge an entrance fee. Simple economics.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]Yeah I see alot of the locals just walk in, get escorted to the bar, look around to see not many girls, then walk out. If I were the owner I would be pissed too. The first thing I usually do it order up a drink even if I don't want to stay. All the girls I meet always think I am a policeman because I'm Chinese. But then once they hear my American accent and get some lady drinks from me, they are ok with me then bring on all their friends. This only adds to the fun although it can be costly. But hey, I'm all for supporting the bar business eventhough I'm not welcomed at the door. I'm there for the girls, not for the bar's hospitality.
Anyone know if this hotel is girl-friendly? I sent them an email to inquire, but have not heard back from them.
I have not run across anything about this hotel on the board, so I thought I would ask.
Thanks, in advance, for any information.
[QUOTE=Uncle Goober]
But, of course, most of the girls - well the flippers at least - actually love the attention of the young gwapo navy guys. They tell us older guys that they hate the navy, but of course that is not really the case for most of the girls.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]
The maids really like the young navy guys. They go gaga over them when they are in town if their off days line up. And the flipper maids might find some of the gweilo navy guys gwapo even though they mostly look like hicks from Arkansa. The non-gweilo's don't get the same level of attention though.
My experience is the working girls are not so fond of the Navy, especially the Thai girls.
Since their business model is different than the discos the gogo bars lower the prices for the Navy as they switch to a volume model when the Navy is in town. I've heard some of the go go girls doing over a dozen tricks a day when the Navy is around. The go go bars can "enforce" that they get paid where as the freelancers have been known to have an issue with getting paid.
[QUOTE=Rick Hunter]My experience is the working girls are not so fond of the Navy, especially the Thai girls.[/QUOTE]
I agree with you about the Thais. Business is priority. And they know they get a bigger tip (money tip ..wink) and less physical pounding from the older guys.
But by and large the flipper working girls love the navy guys. Partly because they are young and handsome (not my words), and partly because of the legend of marrying one and getting to move to USA. (Why they think living in Dogshit Alabama is appealing is beyond me, but there you have it.)
[QUOTE=Rick Hunter]The go go bars can "enforce" that they get paid where as the freelancers have been known to have an issue with getting paid.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I have heard similar horror stories. Even moderating the stories for the usual bullshit factor, I am sure that more than a few of the navy punters pull the post-sex line of "you are working illegally here as a *****, so what are you gunna do if i don't pay .... go fetch a policeman?". And that is after subjecting the free lancer to a two hour pounding.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]I haven't been back to KTV Boss for almost 10 yrs but at that time the cost for take-out what roughly HK2500. I had a few clients, we had a couple of drinks, 4 or 5 girls sit with us for a few hours and the total bill was just under US$1000.
As far as the girls, mostly filipino speaking english and a few local HK gals...but maybe that's because my clients were all laowai?
Good luck.[/QUOTE]Guys,
Dont even think about Boss Club. It has had its days. The place is massive
but without any customers. The girls are average and you can find better in
other KTV's or in the gogo bars in Wanchai. Ok they have Eastern Europeans there but there modus operandi in Boss is to make as much money as possible without any customer service.
4 guys went last month and the bill came to HK$9,000.00 for just beers and 4 girls sitting with us for a a couple of hours. It is a waste of time and money.
I used to go there a lot 3-4 years ago but after my last experience with the mummy called Emma and the quality of girls I wont be going there again.
Stay safe.
Dabeast
The rumour I have heard about the closing of Fenwick is that the Columbians where dealing coke?
True or false?
Was in HK - TST early last week and had an opportunity to try the 141 website for the first time. Thanks to all the reports that I read on ISG, I was well prepared to deal with the protocol.
Last Wed. night, I went on-line and selected a few of the girls for a Hotel Reservation and started making calls. The first few didn't answer, so I moved through my list. When I finally got an answer, I had a real hard time understanding and speaking to the guy who picked up. He could hardly speak English, and if it hadn't been for the knowledge gained from previous posts, I wouldn't have been able to understand that I was to go to the Kowloon Regal Hotel and call from the lobby for the exact room number.
Since it was hot and a monster rain storm was threatening, I decided to call one of the girls and suggest a visit to my hotel room. I chose one who spoke English, Elise, who informed me that she could come over in 30 minutes. Elise was more expensive than most of the other girls, charging 1200 HK dollars for the hour. Her photos completely tiled out her face, so I wasn't quite sure of what I was going to get, but I figured I could at least speak to her!
Right at the appointed time, the doorbell to my hotel room rings. I open the door to find an incredibly beautiful Asian women - about 5'6", long black hair - black mini-skirt and sexy heels. God, I couldn't believe it -
She came into the room and we got financial matters settled, and she let me start undressing her --- great tits, microscopic ass - and a black bush! I hadn't seen one of those in years --- and it looked great on her!
Anyway, into the shower for a vigorous wash and rubdown. Onto the bed for fondling - no french kissing - and more groping - CBJ , then DFK for a 8-10 minutes before I could hold on no longer.
A great, uncomplicated rendez-vous - She was out the door in about 50 minutes and I was ready for dinner!
Not only was this incredibly easy and efficient - it was also an unexpected surprise to have a real beauty show up --- well worth the $200 US that I ended up spending to bust my nut. Couldn't do this in the UK, US or France. You might get something in Germany for the price but not the quality.
Don't know when I'll be back in HK, but I'll definitely try 141 again.
For the record: Elise is no longer shown on the 141 site -- and I stayed at the Kowloon Hotel on Nathan Road - very GF friendly.
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[QUOTE=Lars Bjoern]The rumour I have heard about the closing of Fenwick is that the Columbians where dealing coke?
True or false?[/QUOTE]
True.
They were dealing drugs, according to the reports.
But there are various theories as to the cause of the closure.
Cheers.