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[QUOTE=PuntingGeorge;1986415]I was debating whether or not to write this report, considering it was my first trip to Sosua and there are so many experienced mongers on this forum happy to share their tips, gleaned from numerous trips over many years...[/QUOTE]Thanks for the great report and never hesitate to share your experiences. As someone who is planning his first trip next month, I benefited greatly from reading your report and I am sure others will agree.
While 1000 pesos is possible 1500 will work 80% of the time. I have found that if you press to hard on price your service will be affected. The sex is very cheap 20 dollars 1000 pesos or 30 dollars 1500 pesos in Sosua. If you have never been do not over think it. The place is 2 blocks and the women chase you down. Trick question do pick women you want or women who want you. The answer is the the one you like who likes you. I know many guys think these girls are cold and unfeeling. They are human and can be attracted to and enjoy their customer. If you are having fun it can be contagious. So to newbies do not let the girl pick you or you will be often disappointed. Take your time and get acquainted a little. Fucked up chicas have a hard time hiding it for very long. The first time you sense BS from a chica, kick her to the curve. This simple move will save you so much aggravation and provide you with some excellent sessions. I have have very good time all over the DR. I try fair, kind and sometimes generous. As a result at little over 60 I am having some of the best sex in my life. Many of the girls work very hard to please me. At 60 sometimes getting nut requires a lot of work. I am often amazed at how hard these girls go at it.
[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1986369]Sounds good.
Do you know What are they charging for take out roughly / for how long?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PuntingGeorge;1986415]
Okay, a couple of notes for the newbies.
1. I think a sim card is very useful if you're going to be taking numbers from chicas or want data for WhatApp / browsing / Google maps when out and about. Most decent places have Wifi, but not everywhere. Orange charged me 100 pesos for the sim and 250 for 1 gb data and some minutes / texts. Pittance.
2. The chicas don't have condoms, so on your first day, when you go to the local supermarket to get yourself the sim card, beers and water, get yourself some condoms and lube.
3. Don't pre pay, ever. Very few will ask, but whatever the circumstances, tell them to fuck off. No one pays upfront there, don't be the person who thinks with his dick and end up getting screwed (not in the good way).
Okay, I think that's me done. Can't wait for my next trip, when I hope that all the data I gathered this trip will mean an even more enjoyable time.[/QUOTE]Great report!
A couple of things though!
You can avoid a lot of unfavorable outcomes by understanding the market, for cabs, sex, food, money exchange, whatever.
We know that everything in life is negotiable, one big market, but some enjoy the bargaining process more than others. Some will drive miles to save a buck.
For some, getting the best for the least, is well worth an argument, but don't forget, a local puta, who does this every day for a living, can match you argument for argument. This can be fun over a beer, or a pain in the ass back in your room, and sometimes a time waster that leads nowhere. Even if she lets you win the argument, she can win in the end with poor or hurried service, or an early exit. They usually have the last word.
Other visitors are more in tune with their surroundings, they know what they want, what to expect, have a budget for it, within a couple hundred pesos, and generally have pleasant, sometimes mind blowing interactions. Stand offs are rare!
Look at locals, they operate seamlessly with each other, they never ask the motoconcho driver/street vendor/publico how much, no negotiations, no standoffs.
That's what I have tried to emulate over the years and found it works for me.
After all, I am on vacation, I leave the hard negotiating behind at home in my business.
It may be an age thing. :)
Mongers,
Planning my first trip. What are the chances of getting a walk in room anytime at Sosua Sunrise? Price? I am 65 so sport fucking is out of the question. I will be going for quality not quantity. Is Viagra available without prescription? I would like to seek other adventures also. How is the fishing? Can you fish from the beaches?
Thanks in advance.
Great report PuntingGeorge. And great negotiating skills. You have reported everything that I have come to know about Sosua. Do they have girls? Sure. A ton of them. Most of them are not without the headaches that you have experienced first hand though. Looks like you went through everything with them this time around except the stealing. Since the subject is up:
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1986714]Great report PuntingGeorge. And great negotiating skills. You have reported everything that I have come to know about Sosua. Do they have girls? Sure. A ton of them. Most of them are not without the headaches that you have experienced first hand though. Looks like you went through everything with them this time around except the stealing. Since the subject is up:[/QUOTE]Unfortunately the poor sod in your cartoon is typical. The perennial loser.
His satisfaction level depends only on what the next guy is doing. He's the guy that has problems with getting laid in a brothel. Or getting drunk in a brewery.
I would tell the new poster that with a little practice he will find that "most" of the girls actually give good bang for the buck, and the exceptions are relatively rare. Sosua is a very popular destination for mongers. For some it is a monger's Paradise.
(We know your mileage does vary, since you seem to hit a lot of bad putas and thieves down there, and, you tell us, you no longer go to Sosua by choice).
But that's YOUR problem. I wouldn't want the newbies to get the totally wrong idea!
[QUOTE=Oakie;1986725]But that's YOUR problem. I wouldn't want the newbies to get the totally wrong idea![/QUOTE]A newbie just posted a report with his own ideas. So it seems to be not only MY problem. Are you saying that his experience should be discounted as a one off although some bullshit happened with multiple chicas that he took? At least he was able to take it all in stride and still have a good time.
[QUOTE=OldKool;1986541]While 1000 pesos is possible 1500 will work 80% of the time. I have found that if you press to hard on price your service will be affected. The sex is very cheap 20 dollars 1000 pesos or 30 dollars 1500 pesos in Sosua. If you have never been do not over think it. The place is 2 blocks and the women chase you down. Trick question do pick women you want or women who want you. The answer is the the one you like who likes you. I know many guys think these girls are cold and unfeeling. They are human and can be attracted to and enjoy their customer. If you are having fun it can be contagious. So to newbies do not let the girl pick you or you will be often disappointed. Take your time and get acquainted a little. Fucked up chicas have a hard time hiding it for very long. The first time you sense BS from a chica, kick her to the curve. This simple move will save you so much aggravation and provide you with some excellent sessions. I have have very good time all over the DR. I try fair, kind and sometimes generous. As a result at little over 60 I am having some of the best sex in my life. Many of the girls work very hard to please me. At 60 sometimes getting nut requires a lot of work. I am often amazed at how hard these girls go at it.[/QUOTE]For sure its fine to negotiate but for the sake of 10 $ I wouldn't if I felt the girl would compromise.
You wouldn't want her taking you for a ride but even at 2000 pesos (40 $?) that's mad cheap and if the girl felt good about it and put in work she would do it again.
I fins it a bit embarrasing haggling over a few $ knowing what these chicas make. But that's just me.
In Rio De Janeiro terms (my only known comparison) the only equivalent would be Villa Mimosa (trash red light with a few diamonds) or the privees in Centro. Seems very cheap to me.
[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1986849]I fins it a bit embarrasing haggling over a few $ knowing what these chicas make. But that's just me.[/QUOTE]Come on man. Haggling with a hooker couldn't be any more embarassing than fucking one. Would you feel any different about "knowing what these chicas make" if you knew the money you were giving to her she was going to hand it over to some guy or fuck it off in some other manner... or give it to GrownMan for some hair?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1986851]Come on man. Haggling with a hooker couldn't be any more embarassing than fucking one. Would you feel any different about "knowing what these chicas make" if you knew the money you were giving to her she was going to hand it over to some guy or fuck it off in some other manner... or give it to GrownMan for some hair?[/QUOTE]This is true! Lets go for 500 pesos! LOL.
Just saying 30 $ for a session is very cheap I mean youd probably have to go to Africa or Far East to beat it.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1986851]Would you feel any different about "knowing what these chicas make" if you knew the money you were giving to her she was going to hand it over to some guy or fuck it off in some other manner...[/QUOTE]I cannot speak for the chicas you fuck. If you fuck dominicanas with a would be "ghetto rich" mentality, then what you say may be correct. But I know enough about the haitianas I have been with to know that they desperately need every peso for rent and necessities for their families. I avoid any with tattoos, piercings, colored contacts, dyed hair, smartphones, more expensive clothes and handbags, etc. , because I reckon they do not need my money and have probably got an attitude anyway.
[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1986877]I cannot speak for the chicas you fuck. If you fuck dominicanas with a would be "ghetto rich" mentality, then what you say may be correct. But I know enough about the haitianas I have been with to know that they desperately need every peso for rent and necessities for their families. I avoid any with tattoos, piercings, colored contacts, dyed hair, smartphones, more expensive clothes and handbags, etc. , because I reckon they do not need my money and have probably got an attitude anyway.[/QUOTE]Are you finding that a lot of Haitians have left the DR and gone to Brazil?
Several Haitianas of my acquaintance are now in Brazil, which opened itself to Haitians after the terramoto of 2010, even though they are not earthquake victims at all. However I understand the economy of Brazil is now in the tank and many are looking for an out.
[QUOTE=PuntingGeorge;1986415]I was debating whether or not to write this report, considering it was my first trip to Sosua and there are so many experienced mongers on this forum...
[/QUOTE]Excellent report. A couple of points that I really agree with are 1) Haitians do it better, 2) the key to negotiation is to be prepared to walk away. I liked this report because the author came to Sosua with an open mind, reported on what he found, learned as he went along, and did not write a report full of preconceptions or personal agendas.
[QUOTE=Frannie;1986882]Are you finding that a lot of Haitians have left the DR and gone to Brazil?
Several Haitianas of my acquaintance are now in Brazil, which opened itself to Haitians after the terramoto of 2010, even though they are not earthquake victims at all. However I understand the economy of Brazil is now in the tank and many are looking for an out.[/QUOTE]Many made the trek from Brazil and are now at the Mexican border towns; especially in Tijuana.
Many have crossed and many others are stuck in Mexico.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1986851]Come on man. Haggling with a hooker couldn't be any more embarassing than fucking one. Would you feel any different about "knowing what these chicas make" if you knew the money you were giving to her she was going to hand it over to some guy or fuck it off in some other manner... or give it to GrownMan for some hair?[/QUOTE]Yes, but it applies in all kinds of situations. In the US it is more or less customary to tip wait staff in restaurants as it is understood that they are paid less than the minimum wage and it is expected that tips will form part of their income. If you are well off enough to dine in a restaurant, you are almost certainly better off than your waiter or waitress. Do you haggle with waitresses over how much you will tip them before service begins, or do you use some kind of guideline such as 10% for pretty crap service, 15% for OK service, and 20% for really making the meal a more pleasant than expected experience? Personally I hate being put in the position of effectively making the decision how much to pay someone for doing their job, because I have no objective tools for determining whether they are doing a good job in the context of that particular restaurant, the training they have been given, the expectations of their employer, or their own personal level of ability or not. Or if the food is crap, like it always will be in most chain or franchise restaurants, will that affect the tip given to the waitstaff? In any case, what seems like an inconsequential amount to me may well mean a lot to the person who is on the other end of the process.