Tourist Tax at restaurants
Hey!
I was wondering if there's a good way for a visitor to avoid playing the ridiculous tourist taxes they seem to add to food bills at certain restaurants in DR (maybe just Sosua). Does it matter if I'm eating with a Dominicana and have her to pay the bill (with my cash of course)? I appreciate in advance any clues!
Rodeo.
I took myself back to Sosua: A report on my second trip
Summary.
The mongering in my second, mid-January 2017 Sosua trip paled in comparison to my first, May-June 2016 trip. The quality of service plummeted, but rates doubled. The different crowd and atmosphere detracted from my experience, and the closure of Rumba had a major tactical impact on me. I had three security incidents, the first in any of my mongering trips, and my first Request for Money (RFM). I attribute my lower-quality experience to the local government's anti-puta actions and higher levels of non-monger tourism. I found only one top-notch chica to make the mongering worthwhile, so I spent much of my mongering time with her. I have no desire to return to Sosua, as its mongering now reminds me of San Jose (SJO) and Cartagena (CTG).
Caveats.
My unfavorable assessment comes with four caveats.
1) My first Sosua trip was only my second mongering trip and came after a long dry spell; the combined novelty and pent-up libido may have made it more appealing than it might have been otherwise.
2) My first Sosua trip was before my first Colombia trip; Medellin (MDE) altered my tastes and raised my standards. It is hard to compete with Colombians, as I should have learned from my later Curaao trip, when I stayed at Campo Alegre. I went there for its mix of Colombians and Dominicans but ended up with 14 Colombians and only one Dominican.
3) My first Sosua trip was in low season; this trip was in high season. I enjoyed my first trip enough to return in high season for more chicas and milder weather. In retrospect, the calmer atmosphere and different crowd of low season may have been a better fit for me. Some of my observations may thus reflect seasonal differences, rather than the crackdown impact.
4) This was my first time visiting the same place for a second time. The "been there, done that" effect may have detracted from my experience this time.
"What kind of Chica would go there now?
A few days before I left, I contacted three quality chicas that I met on my first trip. Two of them wrote that they stopped going to Sosua because they feared the police. One of them further commented that the crackdown changed the type of chicas that Sosua attracts and retains; "what kind of chica would go there now?" In other words, what kind of girl would accept the heightened risk of arrest to make money? This observation may explain the lower quality of service that I observed. Perhaps chicas willing to accept this heightened risk are either more desperate for money or hardened pros. Hardened pros may not provide the best service, and high levels of financial desperation probably do not inspire quality service. Such chicas may also be risk-takers, providing lower-quality service than more conservative chicas that see the value of attracting and retaining repeat clients with good service. The best chicas that I met last time were more like sugar babies than hardened pros: college girls trying to earn pocket money on weekends and maybe even have a good time with a decent guy.
I realize that the chica industry has a high turnover rate, but I recognized only three or four chicas from my previous trip just seven months earlier. All of the other chicas were brand new to me.
Half the quality at twice the price.
The risk of arrest may partially explain the major rate increases. On average, I paid twice what I paid seven months before. According to some chicas, they want higher rates because they need a larger stash to bribe themselves out of jail or in order to justify the risk of arrest. Perhaps skyrocketing prices may also attract new chicas that would normally avoid this business but find the higher rates irresistible, and perhaps such chicas may provide lower-quality service. Chicas were also less flexible on rates this time. Many chicas on my last trip asked me to name my price, and they always accepted my first offer. Seven months later, only a few asked me to name my price, and none of them accepted my first offers.
I received many unsolicited offers for "happy hours" or two-girl sessions, from chicas that approached me on this trip. Happy hours never came up at all during my first trip. I declined, as I knew that such offers in SJO and CTG were frequently scams or set-ups for a robbery.
On this trip, chicas were much more aggressive in trying to milk me for "gifts" (I. E. Money for nothing), drinks, and food, even after I indicated my lack of interest in them. Only one chica that I met on my first trip asked me to buy her a bottle of water; I later aborted my session with her because she asked for payment up front.
This trip yielded my first explicit RFM. I kept in touch with chicas that I met on my other trips; some of them either implicitly sought money by alluding to financial hardship, while others explicitly encouraged me to return for repeat business, but none of them explicitly asked me to wire them a large, specific amount of money, as did the top-notch chica with whom I spent much of this trip. Perhaps this first explicit RFM finally happened to me because I spent more time than usual with one chica, or because Sosua chicas have grown greedier.
Non-monger Tourism.
Increased non-monger tourism may further explain the rate increases and lower-quality service, not unlike some SJO or CTG chicas that prey on uninformed non-monger tourists who visit those places for other reasons and might spontaneously pick up a chica. Such clients may not know what rates and level of service to expect and may not push for the best value for their money like dedicated mongers.
During my first trip, most visitors appeared to be dedicated mongers, with high proportions of African-Americans and New Yorkers. During this trip, more visitors appeared to be non-monger tourists, including families with children and married couples. Germans appeared to constitute most of this increase. Several chicas with whom I spoke expressed distaste for Germans, describing them as: a) cheapskates; b) heavy smokers or drinkers; c) boring; or d) old, fat, and ugly. To be honest, I can understand why chicas might push for more money if they have to screw such guys.
Security Incidents.
I had no major security incidents in prior trips to Sosua, SJO, MDE, CTG, and Curacao. I had three security incidents during this Sosua trip. I attribute this difference to the attraction of more desperate or predatory chicas to the new Sosua and more non-monger tourists, who may be less security-conscious.
1) An aggressive chica smacked me on the back of the head when I spurned her advances on Pedro Clisante. The blow knocked off my glasses. She was dumb enough to hit me in front of the tourist police, who arrested her.
2) An aggressive chica began following me, grabbing me, and asking to join me at my hotel (New Garden) as I was walking back from the casino late at night. (I would rather lose my wallet than crack my head open on a motoconcho). My chica repellant tactics did not work, and as it became clear that I did not want to screw her, she offered me cocaine. Once it became clear that I did not want cocaine either, two more chicas ganged up on me and began grabbing me too. I felt a hand reaching for the front pocket containing my wallet. I grabbed her arm and twisted it away from my pocket. She cried out in pain; they ran away empty-handed.
3) A chica offered me a massage as I walked from NG to Pedro Clisante. I declined, to which she responded by pulling out a steak knife, holding it in front of me, and asking, "why don't you want a massage?" I brushed her arm out of my way and continued walking past her. Other chicas laughed, and perhaps this was a joke to mock aggressive chicas, but brandishing a lethal weapon is not a laughing matter; perhaps this would have ended differently if I had shown fear or reacted aggressively.
Chicas are either more aggressive or less approachable.
I found that most chicas were moderately approachable during my first trip. I could flirt with them from a distance, and usually they would either come over to me or beckon to me to approach them. There were some aggressive chicas, but they were easy enough to repel. Some chicas were harder or too difficult to approach, either because they were engrossed in their phones or more interested in talking to their chica wingwoman.
This happy medium has shrunk. There were more aggressive chicas, and they were more aggressive. There were more chicas that made the first move in general, including many with more subtle approaches. I turned them away, as I have found that a chica who approaches a gringo is usually deficient in appearance or performance (if not both), a scam artist, or a security risk. I learned from Colombia that, if and when a chica goes against the grain of the machismo of her own culture to take the initiative with a man, there must be something wrong with her. The best chicas do not need to approach a man, as men will come to them. Conversely, I also found more chicas harder to approach, and I got cold or tepid responses from more of them than I have anywhere else. One chica explicitly turned me away right off the bat, which never happened to me before on any other trips. I attribute these shifts to: a) greater desperation or greed on the part of aggressive or proactive chicas; and b) changes in the venues that made it harder to observe and flirt with chicas from afar before approaching them.
The closure of Rumba and Restrictions on Bars.
I believe that the closure of Rumba has had a more substantial impact on the mongering scene than merely shifting the action to other venues and the street in the evening and early nighttime hours. This assertion comes with the caveat that I am pickier than most mongers about the physical settings in which I hunt for chicas, as I believe that it can have a major impact on one's selection of chicas and the pre-session rapport building that can often make or break a session. I also prefer to do most of my mongering in the evening and early nighttime, which was Rumba's niche, so my observations may be less applicable to other mongers that prefer daytime or late night venues.
The loss of Rumba means that you must move around a lot more in the evening and early nighttime. That might not have been a big deal in January, when the temperature was mild, but it will definitely suck when it is hot in summer. I also like to observe a chica at length before approaching her, in order to gauge her receptiveness and see what she is like when she is not trying to sell herself to you. Many chicas change their demeanor once you get them back to your room, so I want to see the real personality that might reveal itself behind closed doors before I approach them. It was easy to observe a chica at length in the "one-stop shopping" environment of Rumba, but the diffusion of the evening and early nighttime action across the strip and the constant movement of chicas up and down the strip during those hours made it harder for me to do so.
The need to move around during those hours also means giving up your favorite observation perch in my case, the Bourbon Street bar. Its elevation gives a better view of the action, and the seat closest to the street enables you to talk to chicas walking up and down it. The bar is small and was thus often full. Bourbon Street appears to have absorbed much of the evening and early nighttime action that used to be at Rumba, but at the end of the day it is still a restaurant more than a pick-up joint. I did not pull any chicas inside Bourbon Street but did initially observe some walking up and down the street from my perch at the bar and pulled them later at other spots.
I repeatedly checked out City Lights, but there was usually not as much action there, and the chica demographic there struck me as less attractive overall. It also smelled heavily of smoke.
I sometimes had to pull chicas directly from the street, as that was where I first spotted them and I was not sure if and when I might have another chance to talk to them. They were less likely to be engrossed in their phones or conversations with their wingwomen on the street, and it is easier to make eye contact if you are walking down the street in opposite directions. The problem with pulling chicas from the street is that it is not a good place to have conversations that set the right tone for a good session, and, according to some chicas, it puts them at greater risk of arrest.
The best spot on the street to find chicas is outside Merengue, where many of them wait to enter. I found it useful to offer to escort them into Merengue, which is not only a better place than the street to have a conversation, but the offer is also a good icebreaker and builds good will; you start off by doing her a small favor, as she may have better odds of finding clients if she is in Merengue. Merengue and the street outside it were the source of most of my pulls. I preferred Merengue to Classico because of its lighting, seating, earlier hours, and lower music volume. It nonetheless shares Classico's overcrowding and inward-facing rectangular layout, which I found uncomfortable and an obstacle to engaging chicas, in contrast to Rumba's open, amorphous, and spacious layout.
Starfish.
During this trip, only one chica was a top-notch performer, and another one was good, and those two turned out to be sisters. There were two other satisfactory performers, and the other four were duds. I pulled fewer chicas on this trip (eight) because it became clear that the talent pool had deteriorated, so I spent more time than usual with that one top-notch chica, rather than waste my time, money, and energy by continuing to shop around.
This assessment comes with the caveat that Colombians in general and MDE in particular changed my tastes and raised my standards. I am now pickier about appearance; I previously settled for 7's and 8's but now go for 9's and 10's. This strategy works in Colombia, where there are so many smoking-hot women that they are less likely to develop complacent attitudes and thus less likely to perform poorly. This strategy might not work as well in countries with normal, non-Colombian levels of chica hotness, where the hottest chicas may also be poor performers because they can get by on their appearance. The consistently high quality of service at the MDE Mansion and some of the solid Colombian performers that I found in CTG and Curaao have also raised the bar for my performance expectations.
The term "starfish" is an apt description of the four duds that I pulled. These chicas were dead weight and would hardly do anything other than open their mouths and spread their legs, and it was often impossible or prohibitively difficult to even get them to move or change positions. They lacked the intensity that I had found in Sosua before, and their erotic skills were mediocre at best. The sessions were as bad as those that other mongers have described in which they made the mistake of paying chicas in advance except I did not pay these chicas in advance. Indeed, one of the few consolations of this trip was that it was the first time that not a single chica asked me for payment up front.
The two satisfactory chicas had one thing in common: cocomordan, or the contraction of pelvic floor muscles to massage a cock inside their pussies. According to one of those two chicas, though, her cocomordan was an involuntary response to sexual arousal and thus not a conscious skill or effort.
On the bright side, there was one improvement in one area. Out of all the chicas with whom I had substantive negotiations, not a single one insisted on CBJ, and all of them were open to BBBJ. This development would normally be quite positive, but in this case it was irrelevant or moot, as so many of them lacked quality cocksucking skills anyway, and my strong preference for BBBJ was not enough to outweigh the overall lower quality of service. Another odd trend that I observed was that every single chica sucked my cock in a position perpendicular to my body; not a single one would get between my legs to do it, which I prefer for the visual stimulation and mutual eye contact. It was as if the "Sosua puta union" had decided on new blowjob rules for all the chicas to follow.
The Flaquita Sisters.
After a few initial duds, I decided to seek a flaquita, rather than the thicker, statuesque tits & ass types that I usually prefer. My rationale was that, if the chicas are now dead weight, I should find a chica who was small and light enough to use as a fuckdoll more easily than the taller, thicker chicas that I normally pull. As it turned out, the flaquita that I pulled was a top-notch performer.
I initially spotted her walking down Pedro Clisante from my perch at the Bourbon Street bar. She had long and curly blonde hair and was very short and thin. I kept an eye out for her and later found her waiting outside Merengue, where we made eye contact and approached each other at the same time, and I felt almost instant chemistry. I would like to think that the good time that we had resulted at least in part from mutual attraction; if not, it was a very persuasive, Academy Award-winning act on her part.
I took her back to NG for a solid session. She distinguished herself by actually staying for an hour, unlike most chicas, who interpret "one hour" as "one leche and then I leave." Her quality post-leche GFE fired us up for a second round and my second leche. She had good BBBJ, but her pussy and her ability to ride my cock were top-notch. She used her small and tight cocomordan pussy to massage my cock inside it (I think that she controlled it consciously). I often find it hard to leche inside a condom after screwing a lot on a mongering trip, but her pussy popped my leche inside a condom every time. I thought about extending our first hour into a TLN, but I was exhausted and wanted to shop around a bit more before committing to a TLN so early into my trip.
I shopped around more the next night, but the two chicas that I pulled were only marginally better than my initial pulls, so I instead decided to do my first TLN with this flaquita the following night. I was initially hesitant to repeat, as I have found that some chicas become complacent and do not perform as well the second time, as they think that they have you hooked and do not have to work for it anymore. Her performance was just as good this time, and the GFE improved as we bonded.
I shopped around more the night after that TLN and pulled another flaquita she was taller and had darker hair, but something about her reminded me of the first flaquita. I later learned after the session that this second flaquita was the little sister of the first flaquita! Small world. Her performance was good not top-notch like her older sister, as she clearly had less experience and was newer to the game than her older sister and seemed a bit nervous. She was nonetheless on par with the chicas on my last trip and better than any other chicas from this trip, except her sister. I shopped around again later that night and pulled another chica that was just satisfactory.
It was now clear that I was not going to find better chicas outside this family, so my last night was a second TLN with the first sister (the second went home). Her performance was consistent with our first two sessions, and the GFE improved as we got to know each other better. She informed me that she had a European passport and could thus visit me in New York. After I returned home, she further explained that she needed to renew her European passport and asked me to send her 10,000 DOP for that purpose.
Good Read Gringo Italiano
I enjoyed your report. After 2 trips you are still a newby, Being a lone wolf in Sosua is a challenge. Picking girls the hours you chose increased the odds of pulling the bad ones. The hot girls come at night dressed and ready to rumble. The early evening girls can not compete with the late night girls. Like you said they are hit and run. This makes sense because the guys have almost no desire to repeat. Therefore the girls make no pretence of GFE. AS far as pricing we had a guy who was there the same time as you who claimed he had several girls accept 1000 pesos. The best girls in Sosua are the Thursday through Sunday who come in from all over the country.
In truth once you have tasted the Colombian women it is hard to compete. What God does not give them they buy from plastic surgeons.
[QUOTE=Phuquer;1990991]Now that was a quality field report. Thanks for posting it. I got a lot of current information by reading it.[/QUOTE]
Heaven or Hell. You decide!
[QUOTE=GringoItaliano;1990892]Summary.
The mongering in my second, mid-January 2017 Sosua trip paled in comparison to my first, May-June 2016 trip. The quality of service plummeted, but rates doubled. The different crowd and atmosphere detracted from my experience, and the closure of Rumba had a major tactical impact on me. I had three security incidents, the first in any of my mongering trips, and my first Request for Money (RFM). I attribute my lower-quality experience to the local government's anti-puta actions and higher levels of non-monger tourism. I found only one top-notch chica to make the mongering worthwhile, so I spent much of my mongering time with her. I have no desire to return to Sosua, as its mongering now reminds me of San Jose (SJO) and Cartagena (CTG)..[/QUOTE]Thanks for the honest report on your trip.
A couple of comments.
Any newbie reading that report, might think twice before going to Sosua.
I'm not sure what the ratio is but we have many positive reports on Sosua.
You yourself give a few reasons your experience was not up to expectations.
The comparison game:
If you prefer Columbians, of Europeans, you are obviously going to be disappointed with Haitians and Dominicanas.
Quality:
Always in the eye of the beholder. Some like an obvious anonymous slu**, that will go down in 5 seconds, while others prefer a well groomed GFE.
I've been going there for years now, and even in the "good old days" I would't touch 90% of the chicas there. They tend to put out publicly what they'll deliver. From the outrageously tightly dressed chicas in gangs screaming at each other in front of Rumba (Hardcore), to the finer dressed ones sitting quietly in some of the quieter bars or waiting for Classico (Pros), there's always a customer. Then there are the girls who work in the bars, restaurants and shops (Semis). Obviously these are the ones most likely to be clean, non violent, personable and safe around money. It's not rocket science, you don't need a degree.
The closer their proximity to Pedro Cliente the harder they are, but that's where the nightly show is that attracts the most mongers. It's fun to watch. You don't have to move much further away to find a quiter scene.
Street hookers will always ask you for money, or a propina, or a regalo para bambina, even after you have paid them. There's a way to deal with that, which brings me to my next point.
You, like a certain "Jerry" we met down their had far more than the average altercations with hookers on the street. Scary stories like yours, but it was obvious to us that the problem was his. He wasn't aware that he was in a different country and culture.
Myself and my buddy have never had any of those experiences, even though we know personally a lot of those spa and nail salon girls on DR Rosen. (I usually get down there first and as a joke I get the hottest one from her mama san, to come with me to greet my hard working and overstressed NA buddy as he gets off the plane. "She want's to marry you!" I tell him, and we all enjoy a beer and a laugh, on the way to town.
Some of the less attractive ones live hopelessly poor lives, so that at first sign of insult (they are human, and they DO get insulted) they can blow up. The average monger walking down the street should not worry unless he is approached by a group, and engages them. That applies anywhere.
And getting back to your hotel is not a choice between a cracked skull and a street altercation, for most.
I've been going back and hooking up with a regular for years now, but in my experience I am spending less time with this regular and more time with high quality fresh stuff, from the other 10%, pros and semis.
I can't wait to get back there and neither can my buddy.
You are best served by sticking to what you know and love!
But how was the food? :)
