Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2313946]Talk to a couple of young Japanese or Korean guys and let them know you will pay for their first drink if they say you are with them. Pretty sure Baccara and Skyfall won't be denying entry.

Baccara's current lineup is no better than Palace or Sensations now. You can try Pin Up and Panda as well. Missing out on Baccara is not the end of the world and not bucket list worthy! Too many other gogo bars to be worried about Baccara.[/QUOTE]Thanks a ton, I will heed your advice and try it out the next time I visit Pattaya. To be frank I did think of this as an option to either approach a Japanese or American guy who was travelling alone for help but was never able to muster the courage to approach them to help me get into a bar.

[QUOTE=ItIsMe83;2314163]I wonder if the next 2 weeks are going to be crazy. Japanese have golden week PLUS extra days. [/QUOTE]Thanks for reminding me this is Golden Week. It hasn't been that noticeable on Walking Street Fri, Sat, or last night but guys are still pouring in. The gogo bars should be busier this week but the real issue is that Japanese sponsors come to town and barfine their girls for an ENTIRE WEEK!

Also remember May 1 and May 6 are National Holidays in Thailand so there may be bar closures in Thailand on one or both of those days.

Decided to hit some of the gogo bars in LK Metro last night that are not discussed on here often and I haven't visited in a while.

Paradise. Maybe about 15 girls in view. Circled the stage twice! Decided not to stay. No one one drink worthy around and I have never been a fan of Paradise.

Kiss. Counted 18 girls here. Stayed for a drink. There were 2 I'd consider going with if they worked on Soi 6. Short and cute with a firm butt. No lady drinks. No urgency to return.

Destiny - 25-30 girls. It actually wasn't bad here. There was one skinny girl in the model group who was decent looking. She's the only skinny one in the group. No boobs though. The regular girls were much prettier on a whole. I grabbed a very cute one with a petite, solid ass but also an unfortunate little beer belly due to a year of pounding down lady drinks. Nothing major but facially cute enough that I bought her lady drinks. She easily obeyed my 3 or 4 drinks per hour rule without any training. Some of the girls here are very smiley and surprisingly it was the better looking ones who were the friendly ones. I liked it here. I may need to add this place to my regular LK Metro gogo bars. Who knew I would enjoy my time at Destiny gogo. This is why I go to different gogo bars all the time. Never know where you may find that hidden gem.

Pulse (Saturday night) - Maybe 15 girls here too. 1 was ok for those who like natural Thai looking girls #633? Stayed for a drink. I will return soon I actually liked an odd looking skinny girl here.

Still more of the lesser discussed LK Metro gogo bars to review but I could only take so much before I needed to get my butt to real gogo bars on Walking Street.

[QUOTE=FLHawk;2313333]I had considered the flu-like symptoms I was having possibly being unrelated to the runs, but when I told the pharmacist about the fever he said of course it was related as the body was fighting the infection that was causing the runs and fever. But beats me. It could have all been unrelated to Sizzler's, but I had eaten there about 10 to 12 hours before the symptoms started. The only other meal I had that day was breakfast some 20 hours earlier. The hotel does have a salad bar of sorts for breakfast, to include two types of lettuce, and other things that are left out in the open neither refrigerated nor heated. And the bacteria, if that is what is was, may have come form the ice in the drinks on Soi 6 or maybe I didn't rinse my mouth out good enough with bottled water after I brushed my teeth. Who knows?! For a while I was worried, given the flu like symptoms, I had picked up herpes or something! Yikes. But all seems well now and thanks for you all's comments and concerns.

The stuck pill in the throat feeling is not uncommon, only that it was a bit worse and lasted longer than typical. Years ago a had a throat issue and was examined by a radiologist who found an anomaly but as it wasn't causing me problems we didn't do anything. Maybe it is time to have it looked at again. Back then, they found a "pouch" that neither he nor my family doc had seen or heard of before.

To get back on topic, shortly I will be going to pick up my mystery girl for LT. Not sure what we will do, well, you know! Haha Her English isn't the greatest so that will be a challenge, but maybe we will hit WS or who knows. I will try to let her do what she wants. Later.[/QUOTE]Hi Hawk.

Good to catch up with your post. I was in Pattaya in February and wasn't feeling crash hot myself. I was feeling lethargic, lose of appetite, couldn't enjoy my beer, diarrhea and occasional vomiting, constant indigestion and hiccups, and lose of libido. I still had an Ok time but it slowed me down a lot and I wasn't feeling myself at all. This continued when I returned home and after a couple of visits to the doctors I was diagnosed with a parasite! I probably got it water borne as I have been slack lately when in Asia and I have been using tap water to clean my teeth. A course of anti biotics did the job.

Enjoy your trip and I hope your health improves.

Rob.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2314383]Decided to hit some of the gogo bars in LK Metro last night that are not discussed on here often and I haven't visited in a while.

[/QUOTE]I thought you were out of town! I have three more days here. Will be on Soi 6 this afternoon.

[QUOTE=FLHawk;2314475]I thought you were out of town! I have three more days here. Will be on Soi 6 this afternoon.[/QUOTE]How about using the PM function to announce this!

I went to Ruby bar on Soi 6 in the afternoon after noticing they had some really attractive girls. I ended up with Beer (her name), who had caught my eye yesterday. She wore glasses that gave her just a slightly nerdy look, and had a good smile, was slender and she had a really tight butt. Only downside was she had a bit of a mustache. In talking to her she seemed a little reserved but she opened up when we went upstairs with lots of touching and kissing. Her body was firm and her boobs were nice, with nice areolas and nipples, and that great, tight butt! She was nice and when I couldn't come she offered a HJ, but I had her stop as all they do is make my Johnson sore, and I am trying to avoid that this trip.

After that I went to see Jin at Horny bar. I have not seen her in a while, telling her I was not well, and I said I was still weak. She felt my forehead and said I still have a fever. I didn't think I did -but it was a hot day! She sat with me and hung with me and managed to get 4 LD's off of me, saying for me to come back Saturday for boom boom. Well, not sure I will do that. I stayed for at least an hour so she probably deserved the drinks though. Things were still slow however, so I doubt she would have made anything had I not been there.

I was getting hungry and went down to Mama's at the end of 6 and went through the menu but, man, everything seemed so expensive. It is not unique there, even a burrito is 10 bucks at the Mex place I like. I assume this is typical for places around Beach Road and Second Road. I left and went over to the McDonald's but nothing on the menu excited me, but I got a hankering for a crispy chicken sandwich so I went back down toward Soi 7 and checked out Burger King and they had what I wanted. Just wish they had Bar-be-que sauce.

But this is the night I am to LT Secret girl, but when do I pick her up? I could pick her up sooner, and have more time with her, but then what would we do? We can't exactly carry on a marvelous conversation! Or I could pick her up later, but if we manage to hit it off, we would run out of time and the sex at the end would be rushed. Sigh. I figured due to our communications issues that a little later than later than earlier would be better, but as I went to get her, I feared that being later might mean she would have accepted another BF, and even if ST, I would either miss out or have to wait, and taking a girl out who was freshly f'cked would have been a tad bit uncomfortable. But, yeah, I sometimes think to much, but my profession is to think about everything and analyzes all the bad things that could happen. Perhaps I am working overtime here.

I ended up picking her up around 10 PM. I think she had been waiting as when I arrived she and many of the other girls exchanged words and smiles. By this time, they all knew me there and I suppose they share information. I asked what she wanted to do and she had no preference so I asked about WS and she smiled and said sure, saying she had only been there once. She changed her clothes and the other girls seemed to be happy for her. We took a baht bus but the traffic was intense. We finally made it and walked as far as the McDonald's then turned back. She seemed to want to go into Marine Bar. That place, of course, doesn't even begin to get going until 1 AM so I assume this is the place she went after her bar closed. We went upstairs but the club wasn't even open. So we went to I-Bar, but man, I find these places so boring. What do you do, sit and drink while shouting over the music?! Boring. Haha We went upstairs and it still hadn't gotten going yet, thus was equally boring and smoky. I told her about Red Car and at about 11:15 we went there. Not sure if she liked it better or not, but at least no smoke. Same kind of music though clearly an older crowd. Maybe around midnight she indicated she was getting a little tired and ready to leave. Good, me too. But as we passed that live club on the way out, I can't now remember the name, she heard the Thai singers and wanted to go in. Sure. This is probably where we should have come first. Finally some decent music (techno drives me nuts) and she finally got up to dance and show she was having a good time. I am not a dancer by any means but I tried, and as I looked around the club, I was actually one of the few guys who was moving about, while most of the females were. But it was fun and it was nice to see her finally enjoying herself. Only downside is it was reducing our time for sex!

But, she was showing a decent level of affection towards me. She was kissing me and maintaining physical contact and full of smiles. If one didn't know better one might think she had some genuine affection for me. Factually, I now she was having a nice time with the music and all, though I have no doubt she would have enjoyed it more if she was with a younger, handsomer man. But finally it was time to leave and we headed back to my hotel. We showered and went to bed and had another awesome and sensual, if brief, GFE experience.

We curled up together to go to sleep. I remain amazed that these girls can do this with their customers. I cringe at the thought of curly up with a woman of even my age! But even though we drifted apart, she would often come back to re-curl. I woke up at sunrise but it was not until 10:30 or so we both got up. She came down to breakfast with me, only eating a little bit of fried rice. I walked her to Second Road to catch a bus back to work. She remained happy to hold my hand and kissed me before boarding this buss. But she seemed to be a bit distant from me at the same time. There was not quite the same level of affection. I don't know.

[QUOTE=RobJones;2314408] after a couple of visits to the doctors I was diagnosed with a parasite! I probably got it water borne as I have been slack lately when in Asia and I have been using tap water to clean my teeth. [/QUOTE]That's what happens when you eat out girls at Crazy House! Maybe you got it from one of your freebies?

I've never had issues using tap water when brushing my teeth. If anything it's the ice in your bar drinks. Those are killers and can knock you out for weeks.

[QUOTE=FL Hawk;2314478]I was getting hungry and went down to Mama's at the end of 6 and went through the menu but, man, everything seemed so expensive. [/QUOTE]

The food at Mama's is terrible too. Uncle V took me there years ago saying Mama's has good reviews. My pasta was the worst pasta I've ever eaten in my life. He felt so bad he paid for my dinner. Admittedly, last year when MP, Phazze and I bought a pizza and had it delivered to the bar where you were having a session it was pretty good. If you need food on Soi 6 your best option is likely MC Burger in the alley beside Jungle bar. I believe you can order from any of the bars there so you don't even need to leave your seat.

[QUOTE=FLHawk;2314475]I thought you were out of town! I have three more days here. Will be on Soi 6 this afternoon.[/QUOTE]Nope. Been here the entire time. Sent you a PM around when you arrived and got no reply so just assumed you were ignoring me. Anyways, you know I'm a gogo guy and that doesn't appear to be your choice of venue this trip, other than seeing Noi. I haven't hit Soi 6 all month since this heat wave started, opting for air conditioned G clubs and BJ bars during the day. I even checked out the soapies! Imo been pretty nasty weather here this month but better these last few days. You know I go to gogo bars every night so PM me if you want to meet up. FYI May 1 is Labour Day so you may want to line up one of your girls in advance for that day. Bars may be closed on the National Holiday from as early as midnight on April 30. (My apologies to LeFeu)

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2314489]That's what happens when you eat out girls at Crazy House! Maybe you got it from one of your freebies?

I've never had issues using tap water when brushing my teeth. If anything it's the ice in your bar drinks. Those are killers and can knock you out for weeks.
[/QUOTE]I guess you are joking about eating out girls. I don't think that is so risky as breathing in their exhaled viruses.

Food is the most likely source of a parasite, uncooked food, like Sashimi and salads, bad ice possible.

Swimming in bad water in Thailand is very very dangerous. One village guy recently died after wading in bad water with a cut on his leg. Developed a fever and went to hospital a bit late, they could not save him. Not the first guy to die from bad water. In any doubt about water quality, don't put your head under. If an amoeba goes up your nose, it goes to the brain and is fatal. Makes swimming in the sea, much more attractive really, maybe not in the most polluted areas like South Pattaya.

I have a large fish pond/dam, and wading in there to catch fish with a net concerns me a little. I wear some feet protection and I will not put my head under the water, and better not go in if any significant cuts on the legs or body.

Saturday.

After seeing Secret off, I went back to the room and started thinking. Dangerous! I guess her leaving left me a little depressed. I missed her. But I also thought of the Chinese girl and of my Thai GF who I am essentially cheating on even though I have made no commitment or expressed my love to her. But were she to learn I am here she would be heart broken, and I don't mean to hurt anyone. I am sure I would lament my loss of her as well. Like too many men I suppose, we only realize what we have after we lose it.

But in 8 days I am scheduled to go to China, but I am seriously wondering if the girl, my young and pretty tour guide I met on a cruise, is having second thoughts. I have barely heard from her. On April 14 she did ask for me to give her my hotel address so she could "start to plan our tourist route". I did, but since have only received a couple of short messages about how busy she is with work. I still have no idea when or where I will meet up with her or what we might be doing. I have my first two days at a hotel in Beijing booked and that is all the visitation plans I have! She claims to be very busy with work and may not have had time to plan our tourist route yet, but if she is having second thoughts I would rather know NOW than have her text me the day before I am to fly up there to say that she can't do it. Tell me now and I can make other plans, such as maybe see my Thai GF or stay longer in Pattaya to enjoy passionate and wonderful sex with my Pattaya GF!

Update: She did just text me that she has tomorrow off (Sunday), so I am hoping she will find time to work on the tourist plans and let me know when / where we will meet. If she ignores me on Sunday then I will need to consider canceling on the basis she has serious doubts -- and she would probably be wise to cancel! I don't want her to do the trip out of some sense of obligation or whatever and be uncomfortable. I want her happy and to be happy being with me. My primary purpose is to have GF sex with her of course, though the odds are small of that happening I know. Secondary is to simply tour China with a pretty young woman (even if I have to deal with the sexual frustration). If we do the visit and she is tense and visibly distant from me, then that will just be bad.

But yes, the Pattaya Blues came down hard. First, Secret girl is leaving town for two days on Sunday and I am finding I will miss her. Two, my Thai GF is being sweet and sent me a picture of her looking nice and I have to wonder why the heck am I not on a plane to go to her? And third, my hopeful Chinese GF is not being uncommunicative and may cancel or, if not, may turn out to not be so fun. Sigh. What a mess I have made! Haha. But I didn't feel like doing anything. I basically stayed in the hotel all day in a cationic state almost, unable to make any sort of decision. Too many unknowns and not enough equations. Most of you all will condemn me or ridicule me and you are right! Here I am, voluntarily in Pattaya and even if the Chinese girl dumps me, I still have my Thai GF or I can stay in Pattaya and have sex! I mean, are any of you feeling sorry for my predicament and glad you are not in my position! Haha. But I realize I have a fever and headache so I try to rest rather than deal with the issues.

In the evening I realize I need to get out and eat. I walk to CF but nothing in the food court that is halfway healthy and lower calories really appeals to me. I went to the food mart and bought a baked quarter chicken and some greens from their salad bar to eat. I don't care for the way chicken is seasoned here, but I use a fork to tear off chunks of meat so the resulting chicken and salad is acceptable. (Why the heck doesn't KFC sell chicken breasts here? I know Asians prefer dark meat, but this is a tourist area and given the success of the chicken strips, why not?) I actually feel a bit lightheaded as I eat. At least the decision about my meal is a good one. Low calorie, low fat, nothing processed, no carbs.

After dinner I finally make another decision, which is to head to Soi 6. Perhaps with some certainty of what I will do, my head clears and the headache and fever seems to resolve. I thought I would avoid Jin and even Secret girl to enjoy a different woman, but as I was walking down 6 I was paying too much attention to the girls and before I knew it, it was almost at Horny Bar and Jin was out front looking at me. Oh well. I went over and she drew me inside, ready to take me upstairs. I said no and instead we sat and I got my soda water. I limited her to two LDs and said I just wasn't in the mood and soon left her. I then thought "what the heck" and headed to see Secret girl, thinking she might be busy tonight. She wasn't and I think she was a little surprised, but happy, to see me. I went back inside with her and she was her old self. She told me she had a great time with me and liked me dancing with her and the way I was smiling with her. Just words to get me to spend more on her, or were they sincere? Truly, I don't think she is yet sophisticated enough to lie like that yet. I mentioned I thought she was sad or something when she left me that morning and she said she was still waking up. But she is to leave for two days and was bar fining herself to go off duty to sleep early as her aunt was picking her up at 6 AM. I offered to pay her fine if she would come with me for the night where she could sleep in a clean bed in quiet. She readily agreed. She went up to change and came down with some items.

Back at the hotel we showered and prepared for bed. She was affectionate but the purpose here was for her to sleep. She had problems as she is used to going to bed at 3 AM, and I don't think either of us slept well. Her aunt was late but she finally left about 7:30, to return to work Tuesday afternoon. I admit to a small hole developing in my heart as I saw her leave. I only have two more days to be with her before I leave to Bangkok before leaving to China. And, no, I am not falling in love with her. But she is special for me and I will miss her, having to go home to likely months of no sex, especially no GFE sex.

But to summarize, and I am just now realizing this several days later, but I guess I had no sex on this day. I must have, but I have no notes of anything else happening, so I guess this is my second sexless day. Man, I need to reset my brain again. Spending fun times with Secret girl is fine, but not to the total exclusion of others! Guys, I will do better.

[QUOTE=FLHawk;2314625]She told me she had a great time with me and liked me dancing with her and the way I was smiling with her. Just words to get me to spend more on her, or were they sincere? Truly, I don't think she is yet sophisticated enough to lie like that yet.[/QUOTE]I've read only your 2 last posts so I don't know much about that Secret girl except that she is maybe new to the business but my experience tells me that they can learn very quickly especially when they work in a bar environnement.

I still remember during my first trip there, a girl (not even a bargirl, but rather a middle rated gogo girl) once told me something cute that nobody ever told me in that way. I had the feeling that it was maybe something that she really felt. But a few weeks later a completely different girl (they were not even acquainted) told me the exact same thing, same words and same way of saying it. It was impossible that they expressed these feelings in the exact same way if they were true feelings.

Very few are really sincere when it comes to these kind of talks.

[QUOTE=Raphael92;2313820]I am from South India and I've been to Thailand 7 times in the last 3 years and Pattaya has become close to my second home. What baffled me is when I tried to get in to the below bars.

Baccara Agogo. Entry Denied.

Peppermint. Hit and miss.

Skyfall. Entry Denied.

The Dollhouse. Entry Denied.

Every time I try to enter the above bars I will be stopped by the security stating 'Entry for members only' and they never let me in. I understand that they stopped letting Indians into the bar due to a few Indians misbehaving inside the bar and doing their best to show off their cheap Charlie nature. I mean come on, there has to be a way for an Indian to get into Baccara, this bar has been on my bucket list ever since the beginning and unfortunately never had the privilege to enter the bar..[/QUOTE]Here are a few suggestions:

1. You say you dress well. What does that mean? Try wearing a black suit with a white dress shirt and a nice pair of dress shoes. This will make you look professional.

2. Make sure your hair is short and neat. And no facial hair whatsoever. Don't wear any jewelry like a big gold necklace. You don't want to look like a pimp.

3. Go to Windmill or Sugar Baby. (I'm assuming they let you in there.) Ask another customer if he can take you to Baccara. Don't ask him right away. (Buy a few ladies drinks first so that the guy knows that you are not a cheap person.) Asians usually do not drink with strangers so you will have more luck with a Westener. Of course, you will have to buy him a drink if the attempt is successful.

4. If you want to try to enter Baccara on your own: Tip the security guard. For you maybe 500 Baht. You need to show him that you are a big spender. If there are 3 security guards, you may have to tip all of them. I know this is getting expensive. But if you really want to get in.

5. Another option is to carry a big wad of cash in your hand. I have seen others do this. (Not in Baccara) Make sure the security guard sees it.

6. If you do succeed in getting in, you need to spend a lot of money so that they remember you. Then hopefully you can enter again the next day and the day after (preferably on your own).

7. Also, do not touch the girls. The rules are different for Indian customers. This is very important.

Good luck!

P.S. This is coming from a guy who has been to Baccara over a dozen times.

P. P.S. Skyfall? You are not missing anything. Baccara is way better.

P. P. P.S. If you try to enter on your own, don't go there when they are busy. Go there late like at 2 AM for your first time.

[QUOTE=FLHawk;2314625]She claims to be very busy with work and may not have had time to plan our tourist route yet, but if she is having second thoughts I would rather know NOW than have her text me the day before I am to fly up there to say that she can't do it. [/QUOTE]Not sure about flying to China to see a girl who seems less than enthusiastic you are coming. Sorry but busy at work or not if a girl likes you she has time to message you. However, I am certain Beijing has many many sex options. Never read the forum but also sure some of the guys even in this Thailand forum can PM you where to go find girls in Beijing.

Re. Food. Go to Terminal 21 food park rather than Central Festival food park. Re. KFC. Thai KFC have chicken breast.

[QUOTE=Raphael92;2314190]Thanks a ton, I will heed your advice and try it out the next time I visit Pattaya. To be frank I did think of this as an option to either approach a Japanese or American guy who was travelling alone for help but was never able to muster the courage to approach them to help me get into a bar.[/QUOTE]By coincidence tonight I saw an Indian guy and his Indian girlfriend try to enter Palace. Behind them were 2 Japanese guys. Security stopped the Indian couple at the door and said they could not enter. Then he looked at the 2 Japanese guys and said are you with them inferring the Indian couple. The 2 Japanese guys said no. Security waived the 2 Japanese guys past the Indian couple. Then security says to the Indian couple 100 baht each to enter. Indian guy starts making a stink. I walked away as they argued so not sure if they paid, got in, or just left. I don't see this stuff often in Pattaya or I don't pay much attention to it.

Hit Windmill first tonight since it's one of the few gogo bars open at 7:30 pm. Got attacked by a skinny girl with no tits named Dada. Sat beside me DFK, hands on action, and stuck my fingers in her pussy. She never asked for a drink. OK I guess since I'm not a Cheap Charlie she deserves at least a drink for all that. Fun girl to play with but no tits is a killer for me.

One annoying old Farang running around grabbing any body part he could on any girl, including the chubby waitress. Girls were actually leaving their seats to get away from him as he was nearing them. Definition of a Cheap Charlie. No drinks. No tips. Just wants free feels. Shameful. Stayed until 8:15 pm and left for better looking girls elsewhere. There was a Japanese guy acting the same way as the Cheap Charlie Farang but at least he was tipping each girl 100 baht. Why do girls prefer Asians over Farang? Hmmmm.

Pin Up. I like this place. The one I wanted tonight was immediately stolen from me by a group of Chinese guys who spotted her on stage before I did. Next time.

Palace. Super packed couldn't even find a seat. Walked around twice. Talked to some girls I know. No seat so no drinks.

Panda. Oddly quiet both men and girls. Again I only went to look for the missing ex-Sapphire girl MP introduced me to. Just as I was thinking maybe tonight was the night I had to become a tourist and hit Sapphire the girl I have been looking for miraculously plops down beside me. TBH I was a bit surprised she even remembered me since it was MP buying her drinks before and not me. She was prettier than I remembered. For me she is in my Top 5 best gogo dancers when you combine looks and personality. Sure the infamous Lala at Panda is better looking but Lala is definitely not fun like this girl from what I can see.

I was going to do a slum night hitting Heaven Above, Yes, Super Girl, Naughty Girls, Catwalk, Crazy House, etc. Tonight but happily ended up getting sidetracked.

FL Hawk. Thanks for another "feet on the street post". You will get no condemnation or ridicule from me. For me and you (and many guys not willing to admit it) spending intimate time with a girl generates emotional connection. It's not all about the sex. Yes, there are sharks amongst the WGs. But there are also some that no matter what you do you will develop some level of feelings for. They are not automatons but real people. And the more time you spend, the harder it is. Shit, when my Brazil girl and I parted ways in London I cried on the plane. How could you not? It's devastating to get so high and have to come down.

You are living your best life right now. Just keep walking that fine line between real life GF with all that baggage and Pure P4 P. It is at the intersection where all the fun is imo.

On China girl my thought is she is trying to let you down easy. My Japanese girl Rika and I corresponded a bunch but in the final analysis she became very busy right before ghosting me.

That said, nothing ventured nothing gained. There is a bar called Maggie's in Beijing where beautiful girls are ready for P4 P take out to your hotel. If your China doll bails just go to Maggie's and drown your sorrows!