Lima

[QUOTE=Winner50;1273490]Sly how much is "not cheap" for girls for 1 hour in those pickup joints you listed?[/QUOTE]Speaking of prices.

Seems like there are several approaches to Lima Mongering. Not sure of the costs maybe someone can kindly update:

In rough order of sleaze.

1. Trocadero. Barracks. Like: girls in rooms, area "mucho peligroso", but cheap for one pop. Join the queue for another girl for another pop. Whens the best time to go? Wouldn't want to go when the locals have just had a paypacket in their hands and partying on their minds, I imagine the queues are somewhat longer then.

2. Pizza Alley. Its been mentioned here, and I've seen it on blurrycam on you tube. Seems roughly equivalent to some of the thai "Walking Street" places, possibly less girls, possibly older more aggressive freelancers? Any updates recently?

3. Tequila Rocks. Sort of like Help was in Rio, or Hotel Del Ray in Costa Rica. Expensive and the girls there think of themselves as upscale and charge accordingly. As a monger I know a pussy is a pussy, but they often differ on the matter.

4. Escort services. There are one or two mentioned in the threads, the girls look great on the web sites, would like to know if there services are good as well, and also an indication of price?

5. David_33's Girls. The mans a legend and he seems to bring in the college GFE types, which can only be a good thing.

There's a map link a few reports down in this thread and it shows lots of "clubs" and "spas" we may be interested in. Thing is a lot of the places don't have any kind of explanantion, so I'm sort of none-the-wiser on that, although the clustering is interesting and may represent useful hunting areas.

I see some youtube "exposes" of streetwalkers etc but they are ancient. Where else in Lima are there good concentrations of SW's? Is there a vibrant street scene?

Finally a lot of the information on the web is out of date. What's the current "mongering" climate? Are there any crackdowns, cleanups in progress?

Finally. Anyone recommend apartments in miraflores suitable for the hobby?

[QUOTE=Biffa;1273637]2. Pizza Alley. Its been mentioned here, and I've seen it on blurrycam on you tube. Seems roughly equivalent to some of the thai "Walking Street" places, possibly less girls, possibly older more aggressive freelancers? Any updates recently?[/QUOTE]Calle de las Pizzas is NOTHING like Walking Street. Walking Street is an actual street 500 meters long that closes to traffic from 6pm to 3:30 am. It is one big party at night. The street is full of shops, stores, bars, discos, restaurants, and gogo bars. There are at least 100 girls on the street who will go with you and thousands more inside of the discos and gogo bars. Calle de las Pizzas is not an actual street. It is more like a walkway about 50 meters long. There are mostly restaurants. 2 or 3 bars, and 3 or 4 overpriced places you can dance at (My gf and I went into one the other night and drinks were a ridiculous 28 soles. We left out and drove up to Lince.) At the end closer to Parque Kennedy there are 3 or 4 SWs hanging out by the phone booth. In the club that my gf were coaxed into there was extra loud music, too many flashing lights, and and 12 people. Out of the 12 there appeared to be 3 chicks "working." *Disclaimer: this was Monday night and on the weekends there are more people, but as I said this place has become overpriced.

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[QUOTE=Biffa;1273637]3. Tequila Rocks. Sort of like Help was in Rio, or Hotel Del Ray in Costa Rica. Expensive and the girls there think of themselves as upscale and charge accordingly. As a monger I know a pussy is a pussy, but they often differ on the matter.[/QUOTE]As well the only way TR is like Help was is that they are both called discotecas, have music, and have hookers. But the difference is night and day and they should in no way be considered similar. TR is more of a clip joint than anything else. And this is not on the part of management, but on the part of the females who frequent the place.

[QUOTE=Biffa; 1273637]Speaking of prices.

Seems like there are several approaches to Lima Mongering. Not sure of the costs maybe someone can kindly update:

In rough order of sleaze.

1. Trocadero. Barracks. Like: girls in rooms, area "mucho peligroso", but cheap for one pop. Join the queue for another girl for another pop. Whens the best time to go? Wouldn't want to go when the locals have just had a paypacket in their hands and partying on their minds, I imagine the queues are somewhat longer then.[/QUOTE]I went on a Tuesday afternoon. Didn't see many people there. You may want to check other places like Cucuadras (sp?) or Madonna Club (still around?)

[QUOTE]4. Escort services. There are one or two mentioned in the threads, the girls look great on the web sites, would like to know if there services are good as well, and also an indication of price?[/QUOTE]Seems to be hit or miss with the girls, a lot of bait and switch.

[QUOTE]5. David_33's Girls. The mans a legend and he seems to bring in the college GFE types, which can only be a good thing.[/QUOTE]This, along with Sly's parties are your best options, IMO.

[QUOTE]I see some youtube "exposes" of streetwalkers etc but they are ancient. Where else in Lima are there good concentrations of SW's? Is there a vibrant street scene?[/QUOTE]There is, on Av Tacna, but I would not recommend it. I wouldn't recommend SW's in general in Lima; too much can go wrong. Stick to David or Sly or even a friendly chofer (I know a couple if interested)

[QUOTE]Finally. Anyone recommend apartments in miraflores suitable for the hobby?[/QUOTE]Lima Busy still renting places?

[QUOTE=Winner50;1273490]Sly how much is "not cheap" for girls for 1 hour in those pickup joints you listed?[/QUOTE]Depends on the girl, but don't be surprised to hear $100 (not s / 100) and up.

Tequila Rocks is a clip joint, lot of seasoned pros there.

[QUOTE=Winner50;1273490]Sly how much is "not cheap" for girls for 1 hour in those pickup joints you listed?[/QUOTE]I remember about a year ago going to TR with a friend after a party.

A Columbian girl wanted USD 300 for TLN.

Because she was pretty and not peruvian.

I almost died with shock at the price? But she stuck to her price. I also noticed she did not leave with a date at least while I was there.

I haggled another 2 other Peruvian girls for the friend and they agreed on $USD100 each for TLN.

I called the next day and he said he had a great time.

So the anwser to your question depends on how good your spanish is and how desperate the girl is for money.

If she has to pay the rent tomorrow and has no money and you can communicate effectively.

It could be your lucky day?

I can tell you that attractive girls 8/10 who attend to my parties will do TLN for S. 300 + Taxi and a 3 hour session for S. 200 + Taxi.

Sly

Sooo, the 8/10 girls who attend your partys will do 200 soles for 3 hours + taxi.

Will the girls do 1 hour + taxi in my apartment in miraflores?

And how much for 1 hour?

I don't like any longer than 1 hour.

I don't speak ANY spanish

So SEX and GO is good for me. Lolol.

Thanks Sly One for your knowledge.

[QUOTE=Captain Napalm; 1274876]Depends on the girl, but don't be surprised to hear $100 (not s / 100) and up.

Tequila Rocks is a clip joint, lot of seasoned pros there.[/QUOTE]OK, I would like to open this up to some honest discussion and debate; lets not flame. I have not been to Lima in three years; over a two year period, on four trips, I spent about two months today there. So, my trips ranged from 3-5 years ago, a long time, and thing change.

Even then folks were saying that ALL the chicas in Tequila rocks were hardcore sharks, never provided GFE, and were expensive. I had the total opposite expereince. Yes, there are many, many sharks, but I avoid them. How? First, if she has fake tits-pass. Why? She is far too into the game. If she is from Colombia? Pass. Why? I love Colombianas, but not hard core ones, and you have to be pretty hard core to leave your patria which you love to work. Dressed like hookers? Pass- again, I want girls who have lives outside. And then, I am mostly fluent (fluent to those who don't know better) and so I interview intensively. I make sure she is away of exactaly what I want, how much I am willing to pay, and when she will leave. I describe what GFE means to me, and that if I am very happy, I will tip. If she is not GFE, I will ask her to leave with taxi fare only. Of course, I say this with a smile, gently but firmly, and in Spanish. In Peru it is important to sometimes speak powerfully and with athority, but with a gentle done (in most of Latin America, but a man, but not an abusive ass). If the chica give me any hesitation on my terms, any at all, I leave.

Back in the day, I would usually pay 60-80 for a couple of hours (even then I heard 100 was the norm) , and 100 for TLN. If I was very happy, I added twenty bucks to that for excellent service.

So, here is what I would love to discuss. Is the problem really Tequila Rock, I mean, has it really changed, or is it a problem with apporoach. At the Del Rey in Costa Rica, I constantly here that the place only has sharks for 100 an hour- many, many find great GFEs for a lot less, and often a little more than that (still) for TLN.

BTW, good too see you are still around Sly. I think I am one of the few guys who used to get along with both you AND David.

In any event, I hope to get back within the next six months to a year. Work (and play) have brought me other places, but Peru always has a soft spot in my heart.

I would not mind helping a nice college girl.

[QUOTE=Alvaro 30; 1250119]This is a Nice Girl just tryng to Work her way through college.

18, athletic, and pretty good in bed. I'm lucky I found her.[/QUOTE]

Having been unable to arrange something through David 33 due to last minute compications and the fact he is out of the country I decided to give the clubs a try. First up was Emanuelle, I didn't get past the front door as they were asking 150 soles just to get in the place, drink not included-not a good sign.

I gave another club a try Elite I think it was called. Tiny little club 10 minutes away from Emanuelle, maybe 5 girls working, nothing special. I chatted to a peruvian young girl but the fact that there wasnt any private dancing going on just put me off, doesn't bode well for other services. Really average place.

Finally went to Tequila Rocks. Cheap place relative to the other clubs, lots of girls but I can't say any were stand outs. Mostly plastic colombianas.

I did chat to one limeña and she asked for $150 for one hour. She was a bit pissed off as I couldn't stop laughing.

I told her that I paid $80m in Panama for 2 hours with a hot chick.

She tried to negotiate but I had had enough and left, I did not see really any girl that justified $150, they all appeared as sharks.

It may be that there is somtimes a diamond in the rough but having been to Panama and knowing what I can get in Colombia for 300, 000COP I thought it wasnt worth wasting the money on a possible lifeless fuck with a hardcore type.

VERDICT:Lima clubs are terrible, the onyl action worth bothering with is David 33 or semi-pro fun. I just hope David can hook me up next time.

Two of David_33's contacts just left my apartment in Miraflores. I private messaged him two days ago for a spinner duo. Really outstanding experience.

Very happy with the chicas appearance: clean & what I asked for. Srta A: Early / mid 20's? (I have no fucking clue about Peruiana ages). I had her before as a single (report on file. Dunno how to link it). Fair English skills and smart. The dominant of the two (but not a *****). A-cup spinner with a small but bubble butt. Can really spread the knees to give doggy access for a stumpy-legged gringo like me. Small stamp; fantastic to see doggy style flaring out from such a narrow spinner torso / waist.

Srta B: Practically no English. Younger of the two (in maturity if not years). Early 20's? More baby-faced & easy to smile. Slightly more "square" figure than Srta A, but attractive. Silicon breasts, which suprised me as a bit out of place. But they weren't oversized and she had very nice nipples.

Broke out the whisky and port first off (finally found some Peruvian port. At Vivanda's of all places!). My Spanish 'icebreaking' skills are undeveloped, so I let things go at a natural pace. Srta A directed events well in and out of the bedroom. Discussion with my awful Spanish and wandered from the usual topics, to viewing my Peru photos. Srta B & I compared cameras and I designated her the evening's photographer (I am so happily evil sometimes). Finally tackled the topic of dineros. No surprises, as expected with David_33's contacts. Which is why I got away with leaving this discussion to later than I should have. Then onto the boudoir.

I was happy I didn't force the pace. By the time we got into the bedroom they were ready. This is where I am very happy to report a 'unicorn', as the swinger community calls it. The chicas genuinely were into each other (DFK, DATY, etc.) , *and* had presence of mind to keep me involved with hands, lips, etc. Really really nice. The official photographer managed a blurry couple pics while I was DATY too.

Not quite GFE but were very friendly, genuine, fun, and most importantly no drama. When you add lesbian authenticity. This goes into my recordbooks.

Thanks David.

So went to Trocadero today. Was Sunday so only one corridor open, but very good quality of Ecuadorian girls!

Long ride by taxi from the center, costed SOL20, then ticket to enter SOL15. Avoid El Bote (left door) as everybody says quality is bad. Go to right door, Trocadero / Salvaje.

Girls charge standard SOL30 for conventianal sex 20 mins, SOL40 including anal. 80% of the girls were doable. 50% cuties pretty much all from ecuador and around 20-25 yo.

I popped 5 times during the afternoon! Not dangerous but only recommended if speaking spanish, looking like a gringo in there might be weird.

Enjoy!

Just wanted to add to the many thanks already mentioned for Dave's special assistance program in Lima. The entire operation was seamless. Too bad there are no clones in other countries!

[QUOTE=Psychman; 1275950]OK, I would like to open this up to some honest discussion and debate; lets not flame. I have not been to Lima in three years; over a two year period, on four trips, I spent about two months today there. So, my trips ranged from 3-5 years ago, a long time, and thing change.

Even then folks were saying that ALL the chicas in Tequila rocks were hardcore sharks, never provided GFE, and were expensive. I had the total opposite expereince. Yes, there are many, many sharks, but I avoid them. How? First, if she has fake tits-pass. Why? She is far too into the game. If she is from Colombia? Pass. Why? I love Colombianas, but not hard core ones, and you have to be pretty hard core to leave your patria which you love to work. Dressed like hookers? Pass- again, I want girls who have lives outside. And then, I am mostly fluent (fluent to those who don't know better) and so I interview intensively. I make sure she is away of exactaly what I want, how much I am willing to pay, and when she will leave. I describe what GFE means to me, and that if I am very happy, I will tip. If she is not GFE, I will ask her to leave with taxi fare only. Of course, I say this with a smile, gently but firmly, and in Spanish. In Peru it is important to sometimes speak powerfully and with athority, but with a gentle done (in most of Latin America, but a man, but not an abusive ass). If the chica give me any hesitation on my terms, any at all, I leave.

Back in the day, I would usually pay 60-80 for a couple of hours (even then I heard 100 was the norm) , and 100 for TLN. If I was very happy, I added twenty bucks to that for excellent service.

So, here is what I would love to discuss. Is the problem really Tequila Rock, I mean, has it really changed, or is it a problem with apporoach. At the Del Rey in Costa Rica, I constantly here that the place only has sharks for 100 an hour- many, many find great GFEs for a lot less, and often a little more than that (still) for TLN.

BTW, good too see you are still around Sly. I think I am one of the few guys who used to get along with both you AND David.

In any event, I hope to get back within the next six months to a year. Work (and play) have brought me other places, but Peru always has a soft spot in my heart.[/QUOTE]I remember that Sunday in 2007 when we went both went into TR for the first time. You grabbed that Chica from Venezuela, and after a while I met Paloma who for the remander of my stay totally rocked my world. Your advice to me to forget the 9's, and 10's but go for a 7 that you had some vibes with was right on target. After that I made about 7 more trips to Lima, and between TR, Las Cucardas, and once in a while the Troc I always had a great time. Almost forgot I had one of Davids girls, and one stint at a Sly party, before I knew of the bad blood between those two fellows. I think from other guys I trust them saying Help in Rio was the best, and I will not disagree. I loved TR, but it appears there are too many Chicas not even happy with the cien like thay used to be.

I love Lima for the P4P, and also the sportbook, and horse betting room near the beach in Mira Flores. To bad the airfares, and the weak dollar keep me away. I was used to getting 3. 15 soles per buck not the around 2. 60 it is now.

Oh BTW the Pizza Alley SW's are the worst I seen in all the Mongering spots I have been to in Latin America.

[QUOTE=Martin00; 1280908]So went to Trocadero today. Was Sunday so only one corridor open, but very good quality of Ecuadorian girls!

Long ride by taxi from the center, costed SOL20, then ticket to enter SOL15. Avoid El Bote (left door) as everybody says quality is bad. Go to right door, Trocadero / Salvaje.

Girls charge standard SOL30 for conventianal sex 20 mins, SOL40 including anal. 80% of the girls were doable. 50% cuties pretty much all from ecuador and around 20-25 yo.

I popped 5 times during the afternoon! Not dangerous but only recommended if speaking spanish, looking like a gringo in there might be weird.

Enjoy![/QUOTE]80% doable? Wow. When I used to go there we would walk around the place about 10 times. There was always 5 or 6 doable, but many Gorditas, and even a few grandmas at the end of the corridor. I would always give them a soles, and remark to my wingman that those two grannys would probably give a awesome BJ. Of course that got a chuckle, but I think not far from the truth. We used to pay 20 soles there, and a smaller admission charge. At the time my Spanish was almost non existant, but really not needed in that type of place. Just a place to get a nut, and good by. The hardest part of the adventure was getting a reasonable taxi back to the Maria Luisa. Speaking of that hotel except for the one Chica rule that was a great Monger hotel. Anyone know if it is still ok?

[QUOTE=Kelso1;1283578]80% doable? Wow. When I used to go there we would walk around the place about 10 times. There was always 5 or 6 doable, but many Gorditas, and even a few grandmas at the end of the corridor. I would always give them a soles, and remark to my wingman that those two grannys would probably give a awesome BJ. Of course that got a chuckle, but I think not far from the truth. We used to pay 20 soles there, and a smaller admission charge. At the time my Spanish was almost non existant, but really not needed in that type of place. Just a place to get a nut, and good by. The hardest part of the adventure was getting a reasonable taxi back to the Maria Luisa. Speaking of that hotel except for the one Chica rule that was a great Monger hotel. Anyone know if it is still ok?[/QUOTE]A friend was just there, and it sounds like it is the same as it has been for years, although the prices have gone up a great deal. I agree about the Troc- there used to be a few hotties, a few cuties, a lot of doable chicas, but some scary, scary women. I loved the place, but would have put the doable plus number at about 30. Still 20 soles was a great deal. Loved going there for a session, have a meal at the little resteraunt there, and then have a couple of more sessions. I think I would walk a mile or two taking in all the scene.