Sosua Reports

[QUOTE=JamesBlack007;2024161]
Flew into POP and made our first mistake, we exchanged some cash at the airport at 40. Xx. I read somewhere not to exchange but we did anyways. Turns out all the places we ended up going to used USD at the rate of 47. Scammed number 1.

[/QUOTE]The same exchange rate scams exist in airports in the US, if it is any consolation. This type of thing seems to be a problem with traveling with a large group. It will be the person with the greatest force of personality who will get his way, then others will follow, rather than the wisest and best informed. You can give away 15% of your money, and not even know it.

Thanks for taking the time to write the first (of several?) trip reports. ISG is, unfortunately, loaded with "looky-loos" who take information from this site all day but never bother to write a trip report when they return from overseas.

Just a few thoughts on what you've written so far:

[QUOTE=JamesBlack007;2024161]Flew into POP and made our first mistake, we exchanged some cash at the airport at 40. Xx. I read somewhere not to exchange but we did anyways. Turns out all the places we ended up going to used USD at the rate of 47. Scammed number 1.[/QUOTE]In almost every nation around the world, the worst currency exchange rates will be found at the airport. What I usually do, through my bank in the United States, is convert $100 to the foreign currency that I will need while overseas and take a significant amount of currency in $100 bills to exchange at cambios while in the foreign country.

[QUOTE=JamesBlack007;2024161]As we head out the airport a few of the guys with bigger bag got them escorted by the porters, obviously a tip was needed to be paid.[/QUOTE]I never let porters or taxi drivers carry my luggage. A popular scam is for a taxi driver to take your luggage from you and then lock it in the trunk of the taxi. When you arrive at your destination, the taxi driver suddenly disagrees with the amount of the fare that you owe him. If you don't agree to pay his price, he'll hold your luggage in the trunk until you agree to do so.

[QUOTE=JamesBlack007;2024161]A local introduces himself and says if we need anything that he is our guys. We had our guard up, I know this type of dude. Same type all over the world. Wants to be your "friend" for "tips"[/QUOTE]Exactly. You'll encounter these "Helpy Helpertons" all over the world. Remember, if you're going to be scammed or pickpocketed, these types will almost always approach you on the street first. I give guys like that stern looks and cold shoulders.

[QUOTE=JamesBlack007;2024161]Local guy talks to ticket lady and we pay 200 pesos each. I wonder if he got a cut of that.[/QUOTE]No, it was all theater. He was just simply playing the part and trying to look like your negotiator while hoping for a tip from you.

You took a lot of time and solicited all kinds of advise and like most people ignored the advise that was given. Running 8 guys back and forward is a night mare. Get a few rooms in town and share them for bedding the babes would be a good move. Classicos the upstairs club is always 200 pesos kicks off after 12 am. Before 12 it is a deert. Thursday thru Satuday night you will not be able to count the 8's and up in the club. It will be packed. Have fun but watch your backs. You guys could easily become targets.

Great report, James. Keep going with it. Much appreciated.

I always write in Notepad first and copy and paste it here.

Or you could send it in parts.

Evening two we decide to have a late start and head to Classico after 11. Before going to Classico our driver suggests Pica Flor.

When we arrive it seems super sketchy. Dirt road that looks like it leads to a mass grave ready for all 9 of our bodies haha.

Two of our guys scout the locations by making a quick pass to the rest room. I decided to make a quick lap as well. The vibe was a surprise and a bit off putting at first. Really subdued, quiet, slow Spanish music playing. We all had Classico in mind so this was on a different end of the spectrum. As I made my quick lap around I felt that it was actually a decent set a chicas even after 11 pm.

We go back outside on the road and chat it up with the guys. The first two who scouted didn't feel it at all. I said it was alright. Our group really wanted to go back to Classico from the night before. Truthfully I did too. Not sure if it was the owner who told us but they said Classico was going to close at 12 due to the easter holiday weekend. We didn't believe him for we felt he just wanted us to stay. We decided to go to Classico and the "boss" said we could come back.

We end up getting to the Classico area around 11:50 and there are lots of people outside and it looks like they got people inside. As we roll up the front door guy says we have 5 minutes til they close. Damn Boss Pica Flor was right. We stick around for 5 minutes hoping to catch eyes with a choice chica standing around but it didn't happen. Off to Pica Flor.

We all walk inside and stand around the bar. Other than us 9 there were 3 local dudes sitting next to the door. More on that later. Pica Flor had around 20 chicas which all came out to shake our hands and offer a friendly "hola" and a smile. Right off the bat I see my choice and begin to make moves. As we chat she's all smiles and giggles. Very cute and wholesome face. Almost shy. Over all package in the girl next door category she's a solid 9/10. Told her I'd like her company and she broke down the pricing. 150 usd all night and 100 usd for 4 hours.

Decided to go for 4 hours since I'm not into long time without feeling out chica. I ask do I pay her or someone else? Turns out I have to pay the "manager". This is my first time ever having to pay a "manager" so I was a bit nervous. I kept it really professional and respectful during the convo. He broke down the prices again "100 usd for 4 hours, 150 usd for all night" before he could finish his "all night" statement I replied with "4 hours" he continued to say "I'll cut you a deal at 130 all night. " I explained that I feel uncomfortable sleeping next to chicas. He understood and I paid my 100 usd.

After my deal was done the rest of the guys were able to choose a chica as well. During this time my chica who I already paid for sat next to previously said locals. Didn't bother me much since I paid and she's definitely coming back with me.

As we were ready to the villa the locals that were to my back and my chosen chica to the front of me seemed to have a conversation that may have pertained about me. I don't know much Spanish but I can piece things together. Felt a bad vibe but I figured it may be jealousy. I wasn't worried.

When we get to the villa the other 8 guys start to drink and party with their chicas and since I don't really drink and party me and mine just chill for a bit. After 30 minutes me and my chica were not clicking. She wasn't having fun and I wasn't having fun. She's didn't like the party scene. I thought it over whether to just eat the 100 usd and send her home or just take her back to my place and get what I paid for.

Decided to take her back, maybe she'll open up more once we are alone in a more chill environment.

When we get back to my room she's gets undressed and seems really nervous. Body was damn near flawless. But her attitude wasn't there. I already knew I wasn't going to press getting full service if she wasn't into it.

Back to her being nervous, she's actually pacing back and forth and looks like she's going to have a panic attack. She hits the bathroom and sounds like she's dry heaving / vomiting. I have this weird feeling she's faking it because it sounds FAKE. She come back to the room and explains maybe its the redbull we had drank that was making her feel weird. I just motioned her over and said "its OK, we don't have to do anything. ".

She sits on the bed and starts to examine my dick. And give me the nod like "OK" so I shower and it's time to get down. She's gets on top and pussy was top notch and her riding skills were masterful. I tried to go up for some titty action but she didn't allow it. I'm kinda confused but o well. I try to get her off of me so I can fuck her but she stays put. I just allow her to do her thing.

After all said and done she rolls over and she's under the covers. I ask her what time she'll be leaving. She replied with "soon". Turns out that soon was going to be in the morning. Now I have this chica who really doesn't want anything to do with me laying "asleep" in my bed.

I stay in bed on my cell phone for a bit hoping she's just waiting for her ride. I eventually fall asleep and she's still there in the morning. I roll over and give her a small hug to test the waters but she's still hating. This is around 7 am. I decide to just pack my things and leave for the villa. As I was packing she asks for tip / taxi money. I replied "I'm not going to do that" as I walk out the door with her still naked in my bed she's like "hey you can't leave" I just keep walking. I figured she's not stupid enough to destroy the room out of spite. Especially since I didn't do anything wrong.

Lessons learned from this encounter. Turns out you can send your Pica Flor chica back if she's not working out. I wish I knew this because mine would have been sent back in 10 minutes after getting back to the villa. I'm sure there is a lesson to be had about getting a chica out your room when she doesn't want to leave. I think it's having the "managers" number and knowing your options. It's a buyers market at Pica Flor and they'll take care of you when needed.

When I get back to the villa I tell my story to the group and they were all shocked she acted that way. They all felt she was going to be the best one out the group. We came to the agreement that she wasn't down with the whole GFE thing. Maybe she just wanted a guy to get drunk and fuck. Maybe she was super new and super nervous. If the quality of the pussy is a determining factor then I'll say she's super new. Not one slice of roast beef down there haha.

Day 2 in the books, 3 day soon to come.

[QUOTE=OldKool;2024463]You took a lot of time and solicited all kinds of advise and like most people ignored the advise that was given. [/QUOTE]While what you write is true, he also has the balls to admit his errors. Hopefully, with time and you guys' guidance, he will ameliorate! I for one, enjoyed his report even though as a solo traveler, I shudder at the thought of a group tour.

[QUOTE=JamesBlack007;2024647]This is around 7 am. I decide to just pack my things and leave for the villa. [/QUOTE]Great read, James. I think first extended newbie report since PuntingGeorge? These are the sorts of reports that are most helpful to newbies and to those contemplating a visit.

So where were you doing her if not at the villa?

How were the girls at Pica Flor? Someone suggested they were mostly on the thick and pallid side, suited to Dominican and Afro-American tastes.

[QUOTE=JamesBlack007;2024647]Our group really wanted to go back to Classico from the night before. Truthfully I did too. Not sure if it was the owner who told us but they said Classico was going to close at 12 due to the easter holiday weekend.[/QUOTE]Last week Tuesday before going in, I rode down Clisante at 1 am. Granted it was raining a little bit but hardly anyone was out and Clasico and Merengue and a lot of other bars on the strip were not open. I can't remember about City Lights.

[QUOTE=JamesBlack007;2024647]Evening two we decide to have a late start and head to Classico after 11. Before going to Classico our driver suggests Pica Flor.

When we arrive it seems super sketchy. Dirt road that looks like it leads to a mass grave ready for all 9 of our bodies haha.

Two of our guys scout the locations by making a quick pass to the rest room. I decided to make a quick lap as well. The vibe was a surprise and a bit off putting at first. Really subdued, quiet, slow Spanish music playing. We all had Classico in mind so this was on a different end of the spectrum. As I made my quick lap around I felt that it was actually a decent set a chicas even after 11 pm.

We go back outside on the road and chat it up with the guys. The first two who scouted didn't feel it at all. I said it was alright. Our group really wanted to go back to Classico from the night before. Truthfully I did too. Not sure if it was the owner who told us but they said Classico was going to close at 12 due to the easter holiday weekend. We didn't believe him for we felt he just wanted us to stay. We decided to go to Classico and the "boss" said we could come back.

We end up getting to the Classico area around 11:50 and there are lots of people outside and it looks like they got people inside. As we roll up the front door guy says we have 5 minutes til they close. Damn Boss Pica Flor was right. We stick around for 5 minutes hoping to catch eyes with a choice chica standing around but it didn't happen. Off to Pica Flor..[/QUOTE]I made too when I was younger. There is a friend I speak with all the time that is around Sosua. His name is Lionel, he sell boot leg Rosetta programs in Spanish. He is always walking around in Sosua. He can be trusted to introduce you two girls are not going to take advantage of you. Of course you have to give him something but he will save you a lot of money and frustration while you're there.

[QUOTE=JamesBlack007;2024647]Evening two we decide to have a late start and head to Classico after 11. Before going to Classico our driver suggests Pica Flor.

[/QUOTE]Your driver will be getting commissions from Pica Flor, that is how the system works, as no one will be walking up. You have illustrated the problem with dealing with pimps. Perhaps your girl was told that since you were not taking the whole night deal, she was only getting 1500 pesos after the driver had his cut, and she had no transportation home anyway. Once you are in the room normally it is just a thing between you and her, but when there is a third party you are not really in control, especially if you don't know enough Spanish to have a normal conversation with her and find out where her head is at. Of course there is no knowing what ailed her, but it could have been a variety of things.

[QUOTE=Frannie;2024822]You have illustrated the problem with dealing with pimps. Perhaps your girl was told that since you were not taking the whole night deal, she was only getting 1500 pesos after the driver had his cut, and she had no transportation home anyway. [/QUOTE]He paid $100 USD. That's approximately 4722 DOP. If all the chica gets is 1500 pesos from the entire transaction, then I would see why she did not want to fuck James; she's already getting fucked coming and going, hahaha!

But seriously Frannie, I would think the chicas at Pica Flor are smarter than to be getting pimped for only 1500 pesos knowing that they can make almost triple that just strolling the block in Sosua on their own. They're more than likely getting a larger cut than that to even keep them showing up for work the next day.

BIGGER QUESTION: How is a place like this even in business? Didn't Peter get shut down because of the same thing (money going first to "The House" rather than directly to the hands of the chica)?

A place like Pica Flor has a vested interest in Sosua having crackdowns and police randomly arresting chicas on the street. "Come work for us and we will protect you from La Policia!"

James is balling but he is doing all the donts. Listening to touts in Sosua is like having your dick held while you [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url], WTF I love his reports but we told him all this stuff upfront. I guess you have fuck to learn how to ball in Sosua.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2024650]While what you write is true, he also has the balls to admit his errors. Hopefully, with time and you guys' guidance, he will ameliorate! I for one, enjoyed his report even though as a solo traveler, I shudder at the thought of a group tour.[/QUOTE]

Going to the North Coast and paying 100 for ST is a bad thing,

[QUOTE=SavePros321;2024832]He paid $100 USD. That's approximately 4722 DOP. If all the chica gets is 1500 pesos from the entire transaction, then I would see why she did not want to fuck James; she's already getting fucked coming and going, hahaha!

But seriously Frannie, I would think the chicas at Pica Flor are smarter than to be getting pimped for only 1500 pesos knowing that they can make almost triple that just strolling the block in Sosua on their own. They're more than likely getting a larger cut than that to even keep them showing up for work the next day.

BIGGER QUESTION: How is a place like this even in business? Didn't Peter get shut down because of the same thing (money going first to "The House" rather than directly to the hands of the chica)?

A place like Pica Flor has a vested interest in Sosua having crackdowns and police randomly arresting chicas on the street. "Come work for us and we will protect you from La Policia!"[/QUOTE]

James don't worry about a thing just have fun. You got time to figure it out. I would suggest talking some other more seasoned mongers on the ground with you not locals.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2024650]While what you write is true, he also has the balls to admit his errors. Hopefully, with time and you guys' guidance, he will ameliorate! I for one, enjoyed his report even though as a solo traveler, I shudder at the thought of a group tour.[/QUOTE]Believe me I enjoy my solo time more than anything, but these group tours only happen once in awhile. I'm very fortune to have a tight squad that I can experience these places with with no to minimal head ache.