Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1565655]That Japs have always had a separate market. Current Thermae is the perfect example.[/QUOTE]Thermae is an exception and even there its not literally a separate market.

Thermae represents only 1/1000th of the Bangkok P4P market and while its dominated by Japanese, its possible a farang monger with a small dick and big wallet could probably compete with a lot of the Japanese mongers in there so long as he was discreet about meeting up with her, in case there is a need to save face among her friends. And that's only in regard to certain super cuties, sometimes numbering less than 10 or so in there at a time, if even that. Other fairly hot girls are going with Farang in there on a fairly regular basis. Yes, most get shot down if they pick the wrong girls, but the persistent guys (all ages in fact) dig up girls mostly toward the right side or ones hanging in the middle.

In other venues the Japs and Farangs are in direct competition, with Rainbow 4 and similar clubs just the tip of the iceberg. So the markets are not separate at all but intertwined, and Japanese mongers obviously influencing what Farangs end up paying.

Thailand's P4P decline is consistent with reports from other southeast asia locales for the most part, including Vietnam, Cambodia. Phillipines, and Burma among other areas.

On a worldwide basis obviously Kiev is in a war situation, so that's out but beyond that while individual reports can be positive, the P4P reports worldwide generally seem to be reporting (in macro P4P terms) markets in decline, the only exception I've noticed recently is "Cuba Dave" who has had some positive reports on San Jose, Costal Rica which he sees as improving, and note he basically recently had to abandon his core area Sosua (DR) beause the cruise industry (soon to be coming into nearby Puerto Plata) was to a large extent attempting to harass and limit the P4P industry in that venue

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1565782]Selling of sex toys is illegal in Thailand. But you can find them on Suk.[/QUOTE]Well, that would certainly explain it. Thanks

[QUOTE=Western787; 1565866]Thermae is an exception and even there its not literally a separate market.

Thermae represents only 1/1000th of the Bangkok P4P market and while its dominated by Japanese, its possible a farang monger with a small dick and big wallet could probably compete with a lot of the Japanese mongers in there so long as he was discreet about meeting up with her, in case there is a need to save face among her friends. And that's only in regard to certain super cuties, sometimes numbering less than 10 or so in there at a time, if even that. Other fairly hot girls are going with Farang in there on a fairly regular basis. Yes, most get shot down if they pick the wrong girls, but the persistent guys (all ages in fact) dig up girls mostly toward the right side or ones hanging in the middle.

In other venues the Japs and Farangs are in direct competition, with Rainbow 4 and similar clubs just the tip of the iceberg. So the markets are not separate at all but intertwined, and Japanese mongers obviously influencing what Farangs end up paying.[/QUOTE]Pre-2001 you never saw Japanese dudes in Thermae. It was great fun up until about 08. Took probably 250 plus gals out of there.

Who the hell wants to be treated with contempt and disrespect by a P4P gal? Certainly not me. That is why I stay out of Thermae these days.

I would say that there are and will be more and more Asian mongers in BKK and Westerners will be fewer and fewer. Japs have always paid more. It is not within their culture to bargain on price. There have always been gals who prefer the Japs and those that prefer Western dudes. A few crossover, but very few.

[QUOTE=Western787; 1565849]Thailand is not currently among those countries generally deemed "third world" and this is because birth rates are now low, vaccinations are given, low unemployment, not dependent per se on other states, and poverty to the degree it exists is generally not of the grinding and hopeless variety (with some variation by geographic region) and in fact the food supply is being generated internally and is plentiful, with a strong export market, including food and other goods.

20 years ago? Yes, third world, in 2014? No, and even the (declining) provider market itself reflects that as other options now abound for young women.

Anyone the doesn't notice the connection being increasing affluence and the declining P4P sector, has their eyes shut.

Among the sources to confirm this [url]http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/third_world.htm[/url][/QUOTE]One thing that sets Thailand apart is no one every goes hungry here. Never has to my knowledge been a famine.

The population pyramid inverted in 97 in Thailand.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1565875]I would say that there are and will be more and more Asian mongers in BKK and Westerners will be fewer and fewer. Japs have always paid more. It is not within their culture to bargain on price. There have always been gals who prefer the Japs and those that prefer Western dudes. A few crossover, but very few.[/QUOTE]Texas Rangers paid $57 million to Hokkaido just for the rights to sign Yu Darvish with only 30 days to sign him or he'd return to Japan. Mashahiro Tanaka signed for 7 years $155 million with the Yankees. Yep, bargaining isn't in their culture

Heard that Cm2 disco was close. Anybody can confirm this?

For years this was one of the best place to pickup Russian, and Cis ladies.

Well if that rumor is true, so where the girls will hang out at night as from 10:30 pm.

I asked a local:

"a friend was asking about protests. Anything around Sukhamvit?"

"Nothing at all mate. There was a rally at Lumpini park on Friday but nothing round this way."

Should I carry my passport on me at all times?

Should I bring freelancers to my hotels, or is that generally an unsafe thing to do?

Also putting valuables in the hotel safe. Whats stopping the hotel employees from stealing or giving the stuff to someone else?

What type of cell phones do you guys use when you're there. I have a galaxy s3, thats not too flashy is it. I mean its common in the US.

Short Time is generally two hours. So how do I negotiate for 30min to 1hr. Or is that frowned upon?

[QUOTE=Pitingoul; 1565942]Heard that Cm2 disco was close. Anybody can confirm this?

For years this was one of the best place to pickup Russian, and Cis ladies.

Well if that rumor is true, so where the girls will hang out at night as from 10:30 pm.[/QUOTE]Closed a number of months ago. Check the outdoor seating at Subway on Soi 7/1 late evenings for an old Russian hooker that calls out to passerbys

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1565875]Who the hell wants to be treated with contempt and disrespect by a P4P gal? Certainly not me. That is why I stay out of Thermae these days.[/QUOTE]If you think about it, its not exactly "contempt and disrespect" for a Thai girl to turn Farangs down for presumptively having a large dick. Its more like fear of the unknown.

[QUOTE=Western787;1565990]Closed a number of months ago. Check the outdoor seating at Subway on Soi 7/1 late evenings for an old Russian hooker that calls out to passerbys[/QUOTE]Thanks for info, I know that after 1 am all the girls move to Mixx Disco from cm2 but fro 10:30 to 1 am is there any other disco they hang out.

[QUOTE=Western787;1565995]If you think about it, its not exactly "contempt and disrespect" for a Thai girl to turn Farangs down for presumptively having a large dick. Its more like fear of the unknown.[/QUOTE]The problems is the economics not racism or big dicks. As long as you pay they don't care about how big your dick is, some of them are used to bigger toys. I took 4 ladies from Thermae in the last month without any problem but offering high price (and my dick is not big!). The performances were very good, at least for me."More money, more honey".

[quote=phordphan;1565694]next, the "new generation" of guys coming to los are so unbelievably pussy-whipped by feminism that it's scary. they will put up with an unbelievable amount of shit from a woman. generally speaking, if the guy is weak the girl will walk all over him.[/quote]ever have one of those moments where you read something and use that information the very next day? i remember reading this and it made sense to me, filed it away somewhere in my brain. then i barfine a girl last night and tell her to give me some bj, she does for 30 seconds and says 'there'. then this report comes back to the front of my brain so i just said "give me more" and she tried saying she didn't like doing it to which i said something along the lines of "but you do it so well and just pointed at my dick" and she went right back to it. i then get up to grab a condom and she's just lying there so i point again to my dick as i'm opening the package and she crawls right over and starts sucking. she then started complaining about the time after a condom change to which i said something like "i want to fuck" and she shut up her complaints. i then had her blow me after the fucking, pulled off the condom and she made a face but i just pointed and she went right to work. at no point did it feel like i was forcing her by pulling her head down or being physical, i just made it be known that this is what i wanted. when she was all ready to go i said i'd come by the bar the next day to see her and she was very excited. a white lie since i'll be heading down to pattaya today but just wanted to see her reaction.

question: im still new to the bangkok scene but have noticed some good looking ladies rep001tered around on sukhumvit (not the obvious girls by nana). im assuming they are p4p girls, if i was just in the hunt for sex and not spending some time watching the girls in the gogo's id give them a better look. whats the going rate for these girls standing around in front of nana or around that area?

[QUOTE=MeteorMan; 1565980]Should I carry my passport on me at all times?

Should I bring freelancers to my hotels, or is that generally an unsafe thing to do?

Also putting valuables in the hotel safe. Whats stopping the hotel employees from stealing or giving the stuff to someone else?

What type of cell phones do you guys use when you're there. I have a galaxy s3, thats not too flashy is it. I mean its common in the US.

Short Time is generally two hours. So how do I negotiate for 30min to 1hr. Or is that frowned upon?[/QUOTE]1) Ok to bring freelancers to your hotel. Keep your valuables locked in the safe at all times. Always.

2) Pray the hotel employees are honest. Things happen but in general there are very few reports of theft from your locked in-room safe here.

3) I used my S4 a few months ago. Don't worry about using your S3. If you are with ATT or T-Mobile get it unlocked before your trip and buy a Thai SIM card in BKK. Good for calling the USA and using it in BKK / Pattaya as well. Many of the girls will have a better phone than you.

4). ST has changed over the years and is getting shorter and shorter. Most are 1-1. 5 hours now. Nana Plaza and Cowboy have ST hotels. If you use them you will be done in 30 minutes to 1 hour.