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Guys,
if you read my report below about a rather positive Miari RLD experience, I think it is time to start a field evaluation in Miari, to prove my positive experience on a broader basis.

So please head to Miari and check yourself.
And please write a bit more extended reports about it.

Koreans among us:
Tell us your experiences!
How do you experts compare the RLD services between Yongsan, 588, Miari and others? We need your – detailed - reports as well.

Miari Price table: There are 2 Prices listed on the overall common Miari price sheet. 1st line 70.000 Won, 2nd. line 80.000 Won.

I got served for 70k. What is the 80k about?
Please read and report.

Regards

Brain666

[QUOTE=Lionheart8]Like you, I am a sucker for rooms with jacuzzis and nice ambience. At least if the girl is so-so, you'll at least enjoy the environment. Could you recommend a few with such facilities?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Lionheart8,

The ones that have jacuzzis that I have been to are:

King, Sun, Teheran,

I have not seen any at Comodo, Mo Ahn, Roman, and a couple north of the river but its not saying that they don't have jacuzzi rooms, its just that when I went there, the room I was in did not have a jacuzzi.

Hope it helps

BK

[QUOTE=Oracle 18]I enjoyed the comments from you to a certain degree, as it was quite amusing to read your personal opinion about the why’s of getting refused as foreigner in Korean RLD’s.

It was really enjoyable to read the argumentation and your point of view, but now, you try to distort Facts about Korea, stating facts which are not true and not backed up. This I have to clarify in order to avoid that anyone gets are wrong picture about Korea.

About Aids. South Korea's has one of the lowest HIV infection rates in Asia. Official statistics show that men account for nearly 89 percent of Koreans with HIV. About 94 percent of all South Koreans contracted the virus through sexual transmission, with 67 percent from heterosexual intercourse and 30 percent from homosexual intercourse, according to the National Institute of Health. As of 2004/11/07 there are 389 reported AIDS cases, and it is estimated that approx. 8000 persons have HIV.

These are backed up facts. I find it regrettable that you distort these facts by stating that 49% of HIV infected are gays. This is not true and one more remark, we are well aware that there are Gays. Your comment that " Koreans love to think there are no GAYS and there are no AIDS in Korea " reflect your own education and childish level of thinking.

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I didnt distort the truth! I quoted what I read!
if you have a problem with that I suggest you take it up with the KCDC

455 more test positive for HIV/AIDS in Korea 25/10/04 -- Korea Herald
On Oct. 20, health authorities reported that 455 people tested positive for HIV in the first nine months of 2004, raising the number of resident Koreans who have been infected with the virus to 2,994. The new cases represent a 14 percent increase over new cases in the same period the previous year. All 305 cases whose route of transmission has been determined were infected sexually: 51 percent heterosexual vs. 49 percent homosexual, according to the Korean Center for Disease Control and Prevention (KCDC). Since 1985, when the nation's AIDS epidemic began, 591 people died of AIDS, leaving the number living with HIV-infection at 2,403. A survey last year found that only 12 percent of adults reported using condoms during sex. In an effort to boost their use, KCDC recently launched a major campaign to improve the image of condoms. Beginning this month, KCDC and the Korea Anti-AIDS Federation introduced commercials promoting condom use. These public service announcements, aired nationwide on MBC-TV, are scheduled to run twice daily Monday through Thursday and once daily Friday through Sunday. In addition, 132 foreign residents were found to be HIV-infected: They are not included in the 455 figure. The number of foreign cases in the first nine months of 2004 was more than double the 59 foreign cases found in all of 2003. Some 80,000 formerly illegal foreign workers have undergone a required check-up that includes an HIV test, and health authorities say this explains the sharp increase in cases detected among foreigners. Immigration officials say foreigners who are diagnosed with HIV/AIDS may face deportation if they do not return home on their own.

before you try to come back with an arrogant tone you should do some research first!!!


[QUOTE=Oracle 18] Your comment that " Koreans love to think there are no GAYS and there are no AIDS in Korea " reflect your own education and childish level of thinking.

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I think you need a sense of humor! homosexuality was closed in this country right up until I would say someone like HONG SUK CHAN came out!
and look what happend it him! that comment has merit! many koreans in the past like to believe there were no gays in korea! becuase it was looked down on! just as the US military doesnt like to admit their are gays in the military!
its been said on both sides of the fence! so just calm down!!

[QUOTE=Oracle 18]To state "It all starts from Confucius up bringing during the chosun period. To the evasion from Japan and the American occupancy also helped fuel the hatred towards to foreigners! is an assumption made by somebody who has no idea about the Korean history, tradition and culture. To compare the Japanese occupation with the American presence from 1945 can only be written by somebody really uneducated and who has no idea about these subjects.

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and I take you you have all the answers becuase you are korean?
if you are smart sherlock! why dont you enlighten me on your opinion!
and I never compared the two occupations! I said during those occupations!
if you are going to quote me! please dont miss quote me!!
you are now just fishing!!
[QUOTE=Oracle 18]I
Even to state "All comes back to the Confucius mentality I was talking about, about Korean men being a possessive people! You should watch Korean men treat their woman! They treat them as second rate objects! "shows again, that you have no idea about the Korean culture and that you do not understand what Confucianism stands for. I am really wondering, how comes that a male in his thirties has a argumentation like a Kindergarten child.

[/QUOTE]I ask myself the same thing everyday when I walk past koreans!
you seem to be quick to defend your country but you never give any responses! are you telling me koreans are perfect?
are you telling me Korean men are not possesive of their wives? daughters?
you telling me Korea is not a male dominant soceity?
you telling me in the past Korean men were not seen As more superior to woman?
koreans preference for boys?emmmmmmmmmm ok.. I must be wrong!
becuase you say so!!
I must have lived the past 10 years in another country!
[QUOTE=Oracle 18]State your personal opinion, this is not wrong. But do not distort facts which you obviously do not understand for your argumentation, and please do not try to give the impression that you know Korea. Sorry to say, you have no idea about this country, its culture, its traditions and its people, but you want to give the impression to everybody that you are the buddy who knows Korea and this is wrong.

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everything I have said I think everyone will agree with me!
I never swore and said what I say must be right! orthats what happend!
I said in my opinion the past reflects peoples characters! traditions! cultures makes a boy the man he becames! generations have made korea guilty for the way they treat woman!, or the way foreigners are treated here NOW I NEVER SAID ALL MEN!!
I said some!! so get off your high horse buddy!!

you wish to disgree with me THATS FINE!! you try to tell me that I know nothing about korea! you try to tell me everything I say is wrong!
so let me guess!!.
you are right!!?
[QUOTE=Oracle 18]
As you have a lot of hate against Korean man, I am very sorry for your bad experiences caused by a minority, but such a stupid minority is always present. But it is a minority and do not judge the majority for a stupid minority.[/QUOTE]
I have not had any bad experiences in korea! I have not had any bad experiences in the RLD!
I am saying it how it is!!
and what I say has merit! and facts..

problem is you dont want to hear it from a foreigner!!

Compared to other rlds like 588, yongsan. You can tell easily by the quality of girls. Tall, sexy, gorgeous, pinup type models in the rlds as mentioned above, compared to short, typical looking girls off the streets. So the main difference is quality. I personally went to Miari on certain occasions a long long time ago to check it out for the first time. That place looks like a dump, mamasans are too pushy, the area is scary, the girls are not that hot. Anyways, if your willing to go all the way to gireum station and take a shot, completely fine. In terms of service, ymmv where ever rld you go to. I banged several top notch quality girls and they were certainly not from Miari.

Hey there Brain,

Nice posts. You, Seoul Survivor, and Lionheart are carrying the board these days.

I was told that the two prices at Miari are as follows: W70,000 for cash and W80,000 for credit card.

By the way, if I see another post on here containing the words "racism" or "racist," I'm gon' have to do some damage.

Last point: If you are a regular reader of this board, you owe it to your fellow readers to post each and every time you monger. It's the way to keep this board current and up-to-date.

Now go out and meet some girls.

Ive noticed alot that Koreans can say something and there isnt a problem. However if a foreigner says it then its a national outrage. As for Koreans being anti foreigner......well what about all of those signs in businesses over the past years that say NO FOREIGNERS ALLOWED. Now if this happened in Europe or North America that business would go out of biz........and the owner would be charged with human rights violations. It happens here though and no one blinks a eye........

[QUOTE=Rugby Man]well what about all of those signs in businesses over the past years that say NO FOREIGNERS ALLOWED. Now if this happened in Europe or North America that business would go out of biz........and the owner would be charged with human rights violations. It happens here though and no one blinks a eye........[/QUOTE]

It's their country, their national assets/pussies and they make the rules anyway they chooses. Whatever happened to the saying "when in ROME do what the ROMAN do"??

[QUOTE=AMPGuest]It's their country, their national assets/pussies and they make the rules anyway they chooses. Whatever happened to the saying "when in ROME do what the ROMAN do"??[/QUOTE]Yeah guys, to a certain poin I agree on both sides. Korea is not an easy country for foreigners, but this is the way it is.. oh well. I was warned about some of the cultural differences, I've experienced some of them, but I have also met some good Korean people.

So how bout we call it on this subject and continue with business?

So this weekend I was in the Gangnam Area, decided to go get some action. I walked to the side of the Intercontinental Hotel. i now remember that the name of the place I went before was called Zeus Anma. The service there was great... overall the chicks were about an 8, service itself was a 9 for 200,000W. This time when I walked in, they told me that the service had change and they did not service any foreigners, I tried to tell them that I had been there before, but didnt change anything. So I walked over to Sun, they went ahead and took me. Charged me 200,000W, told me that it was a little busy, had to wait for about 20 mins. So I was taken to the room, and about 5 mins later a girl walks in. The girl was bout a 6-7. She took my clothes off and then proceeded to fill up the tub. Washed me off, but at that point I realized that it was going to suck! She then took me out, dried me up and threw me on the bed. Started to do a BBBJ, and then strapped the condom, hopped on me, everything so mechanical, no pasion like I had at Zeus! She didnt wanna be put in any position, then didnt even want me to touch her at all... I was so upset that it took me a while to finish. When I was done, she washed and left the room. I will for sure never return to that place. This Friday I am supposed to go to this good place with some of my Korean friends, I will post the 411 once I have it. Cheers.

[QUOTE=Vox Jox]

Last point: If you are a regular reader of this board, you owe it to your fellow readers to post each and every time you monger. It's the way to keep this board current and up-to-date.

Now go out and meet some girls.[/QUOTE]

Good words, are you going to apply this standard and directive to yourself too?

[QUOTE=Kimchi Man]Compared to other rlds like 588, yongsan. You can tell easily by the quality of girls. Tall, sexy, gorgeous, pinup type models in the rlds as mentioned above, compared to short, typical looking girls off the streets. So the main difference is quality. I personally went to Miari on certain occasions a long long time ago to check it out for the first time. That place looks like a dump, mamasans are too pushy, the area is scary, the girls are not that hot. Anyways, if your willing to go all the way to gireum station and take a shot, completely fine. In terms of service, ymmv where ever rld you go to. I banged several top notch quality girls and they were certainly not from Miari.[/QUOTE]

That what I saw, I can not confirm that the typical Miari girl is short and average looking. There have meen rather beauties as well. But it is much more difficult to judge them as they are rather covered compared to the other rLd's girls in their short pants and oversized shoes and the risk to fail in the optics is clearly higher.
Quality is in my opinion nut only based on a nice outside shape.
The global experience is, that in whatever country in the world, on average the real stunners are never the real impresseive ones in their services. The non top lookers need to fight harder for their customers. That makes them naughtier. So as we like it.
I can compromize some <10 rated with better services to some extend.

Ok, need more reports of miari. I want to know if the service sequence is really different. KimchiMan, you don't like Miari - I understood. But how about the process? do you like it?

regards

Brain666

So I did some Recon in Cheonho Dong last Sunday. Man is the RLD there ever huge! The problem is that most of the places dont have any girls in them. Before the crackdown this place must have been awesome! Anyway from what I saw it is the mommasans in the front touting customers and taking them in the back to the girls. I kinda looked dead but I saw guys walking in and out so there is some biz going on there. Im gonna head back there Saturday and see if biz picks up then.


Someone reported earlier that all the windows had curtains drawn with the lights on in the back. Well from what I saw and I went down all the alleys (there are 6 or so.) and no curtains but only a few like 40 or so with there lights on. This would be out of a few hundred. Hopefully the crackdown ends and the place is stocked with nice new girls.


Would be a good place to check out and isnt as far out of the way as Miari..........


Cheers


RM

I need to correct some parts of your post because your post could discort the readers of this forum.

Regarding gay, koreans did not want to believe there was no gay in Korea is not true, but they knew if someone said I am gay what happened to him and his family because of our mentalityand culture affected by Confucius. Korean including me know there are many gays that the number of gays/lezbos are smaller than other countries though.

Hong Suk Chun did a great job but should have been more cautious before coming out. The things happened to HOng Suk Chun were due to his fault with coming out on public TV that everyone was watching. It is not acceptable in Korea. But, this does not mean we don't accept that there are korean gays/lezbos.


Korean men's are possessive? In some ways, it is true but in some ways it is not true. Korea is patriarchy society and this is the difference from your country. But, I think we are not different from you because american guys are also possessive in some ways. But, you should know we are not possessive with our wives and daugters. it is personal charasteristic and some people are more possessive than others and want to control their wives and daughters.

Seoulman. as you said you said your opinions and experiences. That's fine and we all need to listen your opinion and experiences, but the problem is your saying looked like it is true because you said from statistics or accroding to something. You MUST distinguish your opinion and the facts.

[QUOTE=Big Kahuna]Lionheart8,

The ones that have jacuzzis that I have been to are:

King, Sun, Teheran,

I have not seen any at Comodo, Mo Ahn, Roman, and a couple north of the river but its not saying that they don't have jacuzzi rooms, its just that when I went there, the room I was in did not have a jacuzzi.

Hope it helps

BK[/QUOTE]Thanks, B.Kahuna! I assume these places are in Kangnam? Anyway, I'm gonna check them out tomorrow nite and will post a report here.

It'll be a good comparison since I just got back from "sampling" the local delights at HK and Macau (my reports on my trip are posted in those sections).

No, I'm not doing a whirlwind 3-city mongering tour. It's just that I've got lots of buddy gatherings these days so more excuses to travel I guess.

[QUOTE=Cocoroso]I need to correct some parts of your post because your post could discort the readers of this forum.

Korean men's are possessive? In some ways, it is true but in some ways it is not true. Korea is patriarchy society and this is the difference from your country. But, I think we are not different from you because american guys are also possessive in some ways. But, you should know we are not possessive with our wives and daugters. it is personal charasteristic and some people are more possessive than others and want to control their wives and daughters.

Seoulman. as you said you said your opinions and experiences. That's fine and we all need to listen your opinion and experiences, but the problem is your saying looked like it is true because you said from statistics or accroding to something. You MUST distinguish your opinion and the facts.[/QUOTE]Hey, let's all just live and let live. We're all different. Different countries, different races, different religions. And definitely different tastes in women. What might seemed wierd or excessive to someone from one country could be seen very differently by someone from another country. We all just need to live with that and respect each others' different habits.

Personally, as a (Asian) foreigner living in Korea, of course there are things I find different with then Koreans. I might not agree with the ways but I respect the difference and keep my mouth shut.

This forum is about sharing our myriad of mongering experiences. Lets focus, shall we!