Rio de Janeiro Reports

I'm planning my next trip to Rio. It took forever to get my visa but now this will be trip 5- I think. As usual I'm researching the crap out of it I like to hit the ground running. I hope to stay in Copa but not yet confirmed. I hope to stay 3 weeks.

Reading comments from members from this and other ISG sites, sometimes there reports are depressing. How many times have you read a report that says this place has lost it. Years ago the P4P here was at its peak but now it sux. Did you ever wonder if ten years from now, comments would be WOW the last ten years have been great but now P4P sux. In 1965 while sailing through the China sea my ship made a 10 day stop and anchored out in the Hong Kong harbor. If you have been there then when I say. Go to the rooftops -you get a little tingle but when I mention the nobbie broads at the pier, well now you have a little smile on your face. This was your last chance to get a little relief before returning to ship. Cost 50 cents.

My point is even if the nobbie broads exist today how far would 50 c get you. Oh lord I miss the old days.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2135535]Went to this place in 583 Copacabana (Sobre loggia) on Saturday about 4 PM. A chunky, unattractive, white brunette answered the door and took me to the presentation room. 6 women presented themselves: an unattractive chunky blonde; a less chunky and somewhat more attractive blonde; a tall, fairly attractive white brunette; three unattractive (to me) black women. Real 150 for an hour. None of them were worth postponing my lunch for so I left. Nothing special about the place except that it is open all day Saturday.[/QUOTE]Why do your waste your time on Prives? There are only trashes in prives. There are few decent looking women in the prives but they stay in business for a short time. You better visit many prives on the same day until you find a girl that appeals to you. Rio is footwork and there are different girls in the prives everyday. Enjoy Rio and don't feel down.

Cheer up and don't give up on.

Hotrod's comment about slow visa reminded me to mention: they are apparently offering e-visa now as of Jan 25th. Just google "Brazil evisa". It is however apparently inferior to the real visa in that you can only stay for 90 days / year and it only lasts for 2 years. Fee is $40 I believe.

There really are a lot of violence going on in Rio. Just the last week:
* Lots of shooting between PM/bandidos in Zona Sul favelas: Rocinha, Tabajaras, Babilônia and Chapéu Mangueira.
* Even worse in Jacarézinho, where the bandits kidnapped and killed a delegado. Police is going inside the favela with big force.
* Shootings on Linha Amarela.
* Drugwars in Angra dos Reis and Cabo Frio.

Not to mention Fortaleza where bandits entered a forró-club and shot and killed 18 people, many of them were girls. Some days after there were a fight in a jail in Fortaleza, 10 people were killed.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2135843]There really are a lot of violence going on in Rio. Just the last week:
* Lots of shooting between PM/bandidos in Zona Sul favelas: Rocinha, Tabajaras, Babilnia and Chapu Mangueira.
* Even worse in Jacarzinho, where the bandits kidnapped and killed a delegado. Police is going inside the favela with big force.
* Shootings on Linha Amarela.
* Drugwars in Angra dos Reis and Cabo Frio.

Not to mention Fortaleza where bandits entered a forr-club and shot and killed 18 people, many of them were girls. Some days after there were a fight in a jail in Fortaleza, 10 people were killed.[/QUOTE]Civil war? Still by far the best mongering on the planet but I would not want to live here.

4 by 4 is now open at 11 AM in place of 1 PM. I saw it on a forum.

Cafe Romanche is still in business? I get the feeling they went bankrupt there is no more news of them on any forum.

[QUOTE=Zunga;2135648]Hotrod's comment about slow visa reminded me to mention: they are apparently offering e-visa now as of Jan 25th. Just google "Brazil evisa". It is however apparently inferior to the real visa in that you can only stay for 90 days / year and it only lasts for 2 years. Fee is $40 I believe.[/QUOTE]It sucks, only three months a year. So what about people wanting to stay six months running or per year? Stupid Brazilian administration, I still have to travel with an European passport. Three months is not enough for certain people. Only valid for 2 years.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2135914]Civil war? Still by far the best mongering on the planet but I would not want to live here.[/QUOTE]It is very bad in Rio now in many parts-even normal neighbourhoods in centro. Street robberies -forced entry etc even if we don't live in Rio it is much more violent now so take more caution.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2135226]This reports is a summary on the latest pony-asses I've sessioned with...[/QUOTE]
I have to add one pony to the list. One that I sessioned with today.

Angels Massagem: Amanda has been working for 2 months. I've read about her on local forums. She´s the most popular girl at Angels. Unfortunately she's very hard to catch. She lives far away and only choose to works when she feels for it. The privê-boss, Sandra, kept me alerted on Whattsapp. Funny though I met Amanda in the elevator today when she arrived to work. I picked her right away. It was a easy one-hour choice, R$140.

Amanda: 19 years, dark morena, very cute, innocent-looking, use braces and supersweet. Slim, fit, nice legs and petite. I'm usually a tit-lover and Amanda has very tiny tits. Propably the smallest tits I've ever seen on a GP, however still nice tits (no kids). Her ass is a small-sized extremely well-shaped bubblebutt, round and firm. Her BBBJ couldn't be any better. Performed extremely good in all positions, very enthusiastic and skilled. Her p*ssy is very tight and she has impressive musclecontrol. Second time she finished with a BBBJCIM. She allowed photos after asking very nicely a few times.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2135226]I know that most of you prefer big girls with large horse-asses. Sometimes I also enjoy horse-asses, so large that they have to enter the room sideways, but in general I prefer smaller-sized asses on slim and fit girls. Smaller asses but still round and firm bubble-butts. This reports is a summary on the latest pony-asses I've sessioned with.

Angels massagem: R$90/30 min, R$110/40 min, R$140/60 min. Rooms with shower outside, new sheets and towels.
* Perla: 19 years, dark morena, very cute, slim, petite, small firm tits (no kids) and a smaller sized very firm bubblebutt. Very good BBBJ and performed great. Allowed photos.
* Fernanda: 26 years, morena clara, beautiful, slim, quite large natural tits (with milk) and a small/medium-sized firm butt. Excellent BBBJ and also good performance. Allowed photos.
* Safira: 22 years, mulatta, really cute, slim, normal-sized nice tits and a small and firm bubblebutt. Great BJ and a wild performance. Offered barebacking. Allowed photos.

Dany massagem: R$100/30 min, R$120/40 min, R$150/60 min. Rooms with showers inside, new sheets and towels.
* Pillr: 21 years, dark morena, slim, petite, also with small firm tits (no kids) and also a smaller-sized firm bubblebutt. She's very beautiful, a supersweet girl, has loots of well-made tattoos and several piercings (including pussy and one nipple). She has tattoed her nipples so they look like two hearts. Perfect BBBJ and a very wild and excellent performance. Finished with BBBJCIM. Allowed lots of photos, including face.
* Nicky: 18 years, mulatta, really cute, slim, petite, small nice tits (one kid) and a smallsized bubblebutt. Almost a bit too tight. Great BBBJ and topclass performace. Allowed photos.

Rua da Lapa 120, sala 208 (there is actually two sala 208 in the building): R$50/30 min, R$ 100/60 min. It's between a trash puteiro and priv. Not offering shower but you can wash your d*ck in the bathroom. They don't always change the bedspread between customers so you might have to make a bedspread using you own clothes. :)
* Renatinha: 18 years, mulatta, supercute, slim, petite, small perfectly shaped tits (no kids) and a heavenly shaped smaller-sized bubblebutt. Very good BBBJ and superb performance. Finished with BBBJCIM. This girls is new and has already got good reviews on the local forums.[/QUOTE]No pictures??

[QUOTE=Sperto;2135226]I know that most of you prefer big girls with large horse-asses. Sometimes I also enjoy horse-asses, so large that they have to enter the room sideways, but in general I prefer smaller-sized asses on slim and fit girls. Smaller asses but still round and firm bubble-butts. This reports is a summary on the latest pony-asses I've sessioned with.

.[/QUOTE]ANy info on the horse asses that some of us love? I know you mentioned "mel" last week any others that you saw on your travels?

I went to have some beers with a friend at Mabs last night. The upcoming carnival has brought in more girls. Both from Rio and further away. The quantity was good yesterday. The quality was better than other nights, but in overall still bad.

In Mabs girls ask for R$150-350 (dreamers), which is negotiable. Many of the girls also works the pista on Av Atlantica. Here the prices drop to R$80-100.

[QUOTE=Bizzie;2136084]No pictures??[/QUOTE]Propably not. The last one that posted pictures in the photo thread was me, in March 2017. Nobody seems to care to share more photos.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2136127]ANy info on the horse asses that some of us love? I know you mentioned "mel" last week any others that you saw on your travels?[/QUOTE]The majority of the privê-girls have horseasses. They seem to be everywhere. The only one I found memorable was Mel.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2136270]I went to have some beers with a friend at Mabs last night. The upcoming carnival has brought in more girls. Both from Rio and further away. The quantity was good yesterday. The quality was better than other nights, but in overall still bad..[/QUOTE]Only takes one that you like to make it great! LOL.

Who cares about overall?

There will always be the hags hanging out.

Easy to ignore.

Just wondering that if Escort service scene in Rio is still active or not. I remember calling Scort Show and Cia plus, company girl etc type of agencies. Are they all dead or any other escort agencies have took over their business? Is Termas and apartments like Bel Prazer is the only way to score an action these days? In spite of this, I am still glad that Rio still contain several options on the table. Is rip of joints like La Dolce vita still operating? I remember passing by last year that it was nearly full of all the Help girls who are nearly in their late 30's or early 40's now.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2136434]Only takes one that you like to make it great! LOL.

Who cares about overall?

There will always be the hags hanging out.

Easy to ignore.[/QUOTE]They are all hags. LOL.

There will only be the hags hanging out.

Easy not to go over to mabs and save time.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2136555]They are all hags. LOL.

There will only be the hags hanging out.

Easy not to go over to mabs and save time.[/QUOTE]Not true really.

I understand if you don't enjoy the place, but false info is detrimental to the forum.

You have proven before to be an unreliable source of info.

I'm sure some of you centro guys know this one. There's a big number 13 on the door, you go upstairs and it's a good sized bar. On Thursday afternoon it was packed with people, drinking beer smoking cigarettes and listening to Brazilian funk music, it's all dark and quite a scene. I went with a friend who goes there everyday, he introduced me to his regulars, Amanda who is tiny and skinny and Mona Lisa, Mona was more my type she was an absolute beauty you can have at 65 for 20 minuets, 100 for 40 and 150 for an hour. I didn't session with her but chose Hillary, tight beautiful body, pretty face and sex beyond comparison, DFK, BBBJ, sex was intense, one of the best sessions I ever had, I highly recommend this place.

Friday night I went to 2 a2 swing club in botofago with a Facebook friend of mine, my girl was beautiful but 2 a2 was dead, I felt up a few girls but couldn't get anything going so we came back up to my place to finish the night. Could be a new place opened in Barra recently called Vogue taking their business but I probably won't go this trip because it takes a lot of coordination to put together a night out to a swing club. Finding the right girl and then waiting for her because they're always late especially if they live outside of Copacabana.

Saturday night I'll probably start out on top of the Pestana then hit Mabs for the sad hags then go get ripped off at dolce vita, I'm sure I can find some overpriced Copacabana GDP to satisfy my needs.

Last night before I went to 2 a2 I stopped by the Pestana they were charging 30 reais to get in and many GDP's were leaving because they didn't want to pay, a few of them stopped me in front of the hotel and wanted me to go to another bar with them around the corner on Ru Bolivar. I spoke to the doorman collecting the money he told me there were some gdps on top and he would introduce me to them but I had plans. I don't think they always charge 30 maybe it was a special event.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2136780]Last night before I went to 2 a2 I stopped by the Pestana they were charging 30 reais to get in and many GDP's were leaving because they didn't want to pay, a few of them stopped me in front of the hotel and wanted me to go to another bar with them around the corner on Ru Bolivar. I spoke to the doorman collecting the money he told me there were some gdps on top and he would introduce me to them but I had plans. I don't think they always charge 30 maybe it was a special event.[/QUOTE]Yesterday there was a Birthday party at Pestana, still open to the public. Me and my buddies went there but nobody charged anything.

I put together a short video of my 2018 pre carnival trip to Rio.

I usually stay in an apartment but my reservation fell through so I decided to stay at the Pestana hotel. This hotel was 100% user friendly, during the day when security was present and the front desk was full of agents they were extremely professional, signed the girl in and called me to come down and sign the paperwork. No extra charge and no problems at all. During the night things seemed to be a little relaxed and no need to stop at front desk we just walked in like any other couple. On weekends they have a DJ on the roof deck and some GDP's show up, all you have to do is take them right down to your room if that is what happens. I had the ocean front suite with panoramic view of Copacabana, was very impressive. Pool area was good too during the day.

The girls in the video are from Hotside web site or Dolce Vita or FaceBook friend I just met. My whole trip I had girls from Hotside, Dolce Vita and Mabs and 13 downtown which was great. Two girls came up to me at Mabs that I went with over 10 years ago and remembered everything about me, I hardly even recognized them and I'm sure they had a lot more partners than I've had through the years.

Another good trip and everybody does Rio differently, for me late afternoon I liked sending a whatsapp to a girl on Hotside and have her show up for some afternoon fun, most of these girls I find are a cut above in looks but the best sex I had all trip was down town at 13, favella sex.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IakQaj5CNwo&t=7s[/URL]

[QUOTE=RioBob;2137850]I put together a short video of my 2018 pre carnival trip to Rio.[/QUOTE]Very nice video. Beautiful girls, nice room and a great view.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2137850]I put together a short video of my 2018 pre carnival trip to Rio.

I usually stay in an apartment but my reservation fell through so I decided to stay at the Pestana hotel. This hotel was 100% user friendly, during the day when security was present and the front desk was full of agents they were extremely professional, signed the girl in and called me to come down and sign the paperwork. No extra charge and no problems at all. During the night things seemed to be a little relaxed and no need to stop at front desk we just walked in like any other couple. On weekends they have a DJ on the roof deck and some GDP's show up, all you have to do is take them right down to your room if that is what happens. I had the ocean front suite with panoramic view of Copacabana, was very impressive. Pool area was good too during the day.

The girls in the video are from Hotside web site or Dolce Vita or FaceBook friend I just met. My whole trip I had girls from Hotside, Dolce Vita and Mabs and 13 downtown which was great. Two girls came up to me at Mabs that I went with over 10 years ago and remembered everything about me, I hardly even recognized them and I'm sure they had a lot more partners than I've had through the years.

Another good trip and everybody does Rio differently, for me late afternoon I liked sending a whatsapp to a girl on Hotside and have her show up for some afternoon fun, most of these girls I find are a cut above in looks but the best sex I had all trip was down town at 13, favella sex.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IakQaj5CNwo&t=7s[/URL][/QUOTE]I ditto the statement that great hotel and views and very beautiful lady's, wow it has been 17 years since I played and stayed and partied in Rio, hope to get back some day.

Thanks for sharing.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2137850]I put together a short video of my 2018 pre carnival trip to Rio.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IakQaj5CNwo&t=7s[/URL][/QUOTE]Great video, music and beautiful ladies tastefully presented.

Thanks for taking the time to put it together and most of all for sharing.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2137850]I put together a short video of my 2018 pre carnival trip to Rio.
Another good trip and everybody does Rio differently, for me late afternoon I liked sending a whatsapp to a girl on Hotside and have her show up for some afternoon fun, most of these girls I find are a cut above in looks but the best sex I had all trip was down town at 13, favella sex.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IakQaj5CNwo&t=7s[/URL][/QUOTE]Nicely done!

So you didn't get the bait and switch from Hotside?

And Dolce Vita? Has that improved so much!

[QUOTE=Bizzie;2138087]Nicely done!

So you didn't get the bait and switch from Hotside?

And Dolce Vita? Has that improved so much![/QUOTE]Dolce vita always smells of hags.

[QUOTE=Bizzie;2138087]Nicely done!

So you didn't get the bait and switch from Hotside?

And Dolce Vita? Has that improved so much![/QUOTE]Dolce Vita has a fluid environment, I usually got there late, about 1 AM. When I was there there was always a few good ones so I didn't want to stay too late so I usually picked one that was appealing and looked manageable. But when I was leaving more good ones were coming in always. Girls get in free and guys pay 50 reais and get 1 free drink. While late night Copacabana options are very limited Dolce Vita provides a viable option. One taxi driver told me to go to Casa Blanca but I did not and it has been mentioned here recently and also suggested to wait around as girls come in and out. Looks like the girls move around Copa from Mabs to Dolce Vita to Casa Blanca looking for business so you either have to have patience or hit it lucky. I pulled 2 girls from there last week both were fine, the one in my video was from Dolce, the one with black spandex pants.

Bait and switch? Back in the day when escort sites were mostly agencies yes they would have pics of girls who were blond or morena or red heads and if you called for some specific girl and that girl wasn't currently available then they may send another blond and since the faces were usually blocked then might be hard to tell, they tried to get away with this stuff. Nowadays for the most part agencies are gone and sites like Hotside and Barra Vip are sites for independent escorts. These girls have to spend out of their own pocket thousands of reais just to get a photo shoot and 1,500 reais a week for these photos to be posted on these sites. So in order for a girl to have the money weekly to pay 1500 a week she has to work a lot and in order for her to work a lot and get repeat business she better look good and give good service and not pull any games otherwise word will get around and she will be off the site because she can't pay the bill.

My trip is over now and some of these girls are still whatsapp me which hurts LOL.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2125541]Good news is the hotels I stay in are 100% GF- with no need to reserve a specific 2nd person-just book for 2-you register them at front desk when they arrive like in DR and when they leave make them tell reception they've left. [/QUOTE]FAMD,

Could you please recommend some of the girl friendly hotels? Planning my first trip to Rio and I'm getting very mixed messages from researching this forum. Would hate for this aspect to ruin my mongering adventure.

Would be a good idea to start a database regarding this issue as well.

[QUOTE=Kib123;2138511]FAMD,

Could you please recommend some of the girl friendly hotels? Planning my first trip to Rio and I'm getting very mixed messages from researching this forum. Would hate for this aspect to ruin my mongering adventure.

Would be a good idea to start a database regarding this issue as well.[/QUOTE]Ibis. Pestana. Best western. There's one opposite siqueria campos station- A big one- name slipped my mind. Is it Atlantis Copacabana? Someone else chime in.

That is the right name.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2138584]Ibis. Pestana. Best western. There's one opposite siqueria campos station- A big one- name slipped my mind. Is it Atlantis Copacabana? Someone else chime in.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RioBob;2134955]Monday night I went to Mabs just to kill time but I wasn't sad at all, there were a good amount of doable girls there at midnight, one older blonde came over to me and said she remembered me from Help, I didn't recognize her until she spoke, a German type from Santa Catarina, back in the day I must have been with her a few times cause that's my type, we spoke awhile but she aged and I didn't LOL (2 hours in the gym every day LOL) finally teamed up with a med student who was very nice, life is good in this marvelous city. I'll go back for sure there were a lot of good pickings there.[/QUOTE]Must have been a real good night (hanging out at the zoo). If a guy has time and not horny (after fucking in centro or at the apt), it's ok to go for a drink and see what's up. Maybe? LOL.

Two years ago, my buddy and I went to SP and Rio. It was his first time in Rio, and my 19th trip. So I was showing him the ropes.

It was a Sunday night (slow night) and I had a 4 x4 girl come over a fuck me for 3 hours. 4 x4 was closed that day. So I had her come early. She showed up looking good and smelling good. We had a 2-3 Jack and cokes, then had a nice session in the bedroom. We drank some more, but ran out of Jack. So I told her to get some beer from the fridge. My homie returned by that time and was in the living room watching tv. I told her to go to the kitchen and get some beers naked. She did and she even offered him a beer NAKED. LMAO She returned to the room and I went out to talk to my boy. He was shocked. I asked him if he wanted t fuck her? He declined. I told him, don't sweat it, just give her 100 reals and have some fun. He was all shy, so I left and went to have round two.

My girl takes off and mow my boy wants to go eat and look for a girl. I took him to the zoo (Mabs). We ate and drank. Good time. He found a cute ass girl standing on the wall. Brought her over and negotiated a decent price. We paid the bill and left. Back in the 2 bed room apt they went to get busy. He came out for some beers asking if it was ok (because I bought all the beer). Heck yeah it's ok take 4 of them, have fun. Since the girl looked good, I told him to go in and get a blow job and ask her if she is down to getting fucked by two guys. Then leave the door cracked. I drank my beer while waiting for him to have his fun, then went and knocked on the door and entered. She was still sucking his dick. I rubbed her ass to see if she would resist. Nope. So, with her ass in the air, I slipped on a condom and played with her pussy. She was really wet. Then I fucked her hard. Busted my third nut for the day and left then alone. Later, he came out, I gave him an extra 100 reals to add to his money. Everyone was happy. That was good ass day.

So yeah, every now and then, a guy can get lucky at the zoo. LOL.

(I'm drinking in Asia now, so if there are typos and shit. Figure it out).

[QUOTE=Hotrod10;2135551]I'm planning my next trip to Rio. It took forever to get my visa but now this will be trip 5- I think. As usual I'm researching the crap out of it I like to hit the ground running. I hope to stay in Copa but not yet confirmed. I hope to stay 3 weeks.
Reading comments...... [/QUOTE]Don't sweat that shit. YOU will have a great time. I been going for 12 years (started mongering in 2006, so I'm a lot younger than you) and I like to stay a month at a time. Read the forum and take some notes. If you have ANY questions, send me a pm. I will help you make the most of your trip. You put in the work for a long time and know how to deal with women. Any question just ask.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2135999]It sucks, only three months a year. So what about people wanting to stay six months running or per year? Stupid Brazilian administration, I still have to travel with an European passport. Three months is not enough for certain people. Only valid for 2 years.[/QUOTE]That's not a bad deal. A lot of guys don't go three time each year! Especially for a guy who wants to try it out for the first or 2nd time. He can go check it out for 3 or 4 weeks on HIS vacation. Then, if he like it (which he will), he can get the 10 year visa and pay more. A 10 year visa is $160 (a guy can go 1 month on vacation, each year for 10 years). If he had a $40 visa he can go 1 month for 2 years and check it out first. Not a bad deal at all for a newby or a guy who travels every now and then!

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;2138690]Must have been a real good night (hanging out at the zoo). If a guy has time and not horny (after fucking in centro or at the apt), it's ok to go for a drink and see what's up. Maybe? LOL
...So yeah, every now and then, a guy can get lucky at the zoo. LOL..[/QUOTE]Well duh, it is Brazil, LOL.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2138584]Ibis. Pestana. Best western. There's one opposite siqueria campos station- A big one- name slipped my mind. Is it Atlantis Copacabana? Someone else chime in.[/QUOTE]Very helpful, thanks! I'll start with the Ibis.

Is this "girl hostility" thing unique to hotels in Brazil? Been mongering high and low around the world, and never ever been in a situation of having to worry about such nonsense.

[QUOTE=Kib123;2139016]Very helpful, thanks! I'll start with the Ibis.

Is this "girl hostility" thing unique to hotels in Brazil? Been mongering high and low around the world, and never ever been in a situation of having to worry about such nonsense.[/QUOTE]This IS utter nonsense. Have stayed at many hotels around Rio sometimes for months and never had any issues.

Guys who know how to handled themselves, are friendly with the staff and don't bring in trash, will have no problems.

[URL]https://youtu.be/PvKi_udpanI[/URL]

What is this? Disney.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2137971]Great video, music and beautiful ladies tastefully presented.

Thanks for taking the time to put it together and most of all for sharing.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kib123;2139016]Very helpful, thanks! I'll start with the Ibis.

Is this "girl hostility" thing unique to hotels in Brazil? Been mongering high and low around the world, and never ever been in a situation of having to worry about such nonsense.[/QUOTE]Could be a few reasons I have seen through the years. Allowing girls in in this business lends itself to a lot of drama. Late at night too much alcohol, he doesn't want to pay because she didn't deliver what his expectations were, whatever but now we have drama. Yelling, screaming, fights, police, many hotels want to avoid this and maintain their reputation for regular tourists. Also many hotels do not want to be part of prostitution, many hotels have signs up against prostitution and again want to maintain a good reputation. Some of these girls steal and slip drugs in your drinks to knock you out and steal your stuff, hotels want no part of this.

So you are doing the right thing by doing your homework. I know FAMD has stated many times that IBIS is a good option and I just recently stayed at Pestana and was allowed to bring in as many girls as I wanted one at a time.

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1;2139080][URL]https://youtu.be/PvKi_udpanI[/URL]

What is this? Disney.[/QUOTE]LOL, Nice!

[QUOTE=Balboa;2138921]Well duh, it is Brazil, LOL.[/QUOTE]For the past 5 years or so, Mabs has been full of hags!

[QUOTE=Balboa;2138921]Well duh, it is Brazil, LOL.[/QUOTE]It's not Brazil, It is fucking Mabs. Mabs and VM are the biggest zoo in the world followed that of San Diego and Guadajara. Mabs is filled with circus freaks walking around.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;2138705]That's not a bad deal. A lot of guys don't go three time each year! Especially for a guy who wants to try it out for the first or 2nd time. He can go check it out for 3 or 4 weeks on HIS vacation. Then, if he like it (which he will), he can get the 10 year visa and pay more. A 10 year visa is $160 (a guy can go 1 month on vacation, each year for 10 years). If he had a $40 visa he can go 1 month for 2 years and check it out first. Not a bad deal at all for a newby or a guy who travels every now and then![/QUOTE]Not good for me. I need to stay 4 - 6 months per year and I still have to spend money to renew a fucking European passport.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2139034]This IS utter nonsense. Have stayed at many hotels around Rio sometimes for months and never had any issues.
Guys who know how to handled themselves, are friendly with the staff and don't bring in trash, will have no problems.[/QUOTE]You are giving misinformation TOO! I stayed at Premier hotel near Siqueira Campos metro station a few years ago. I met a cutie and brought her back in the late afternoon. The asshole at the front desk stopped us and objected when I was rolling in to the elevator. I told him to check my booking!! I booked for 2. Fuck him. I took her up and enjoyed myself. He was mad because I was about to fuck her sweet her ass.

And the asshole gave me a dirty look when I walked her out a few hours later. I'm American, and I came back and ask if there was a problem in Portuguese, he didn't say shit.

Rio Othon Palace also frowns on that. So do a few other hotels.

Hello all,

Just wondering if anyone has experience to know whether at least some of the girls tend to work during Carnaval. I just arrived and will be staying through the 18th.

Along those lines, if anyone has recommendations of independents I would offer a hearty thanks! Of course, there are the sites such as Riosex and Hotside, but I always try to message a few from photoacompanhantes as well and have no luck. Shame, because it seems a much better value and there are always some who look really good. I come a few times per year, but for short periods so I haven't invested three time to learn the language. Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;2139290]You are giving misinformation TOO! I stayed at Premier hotel near Siqueira Campos metro station a few years ago. I met a cutie and brought her back in the late afternoon. The asshole at the front desk stopped us and objected when I was rolling in to the elevator. I told him to check my booking!! I booked for 2. Fuck him. I took her up and enjoyed myself. He was mad because I was about to fuck her sweet her ass.

And the asshole gave me a dirty look when I walked her out a few hours later. I'm American, and I came back and ask if there was a problem in Portuguese, he didn't say shit.

Rio Othon Palace also frowns on that. So do a few other hotels.[/QUOTE]I stayed at the Premier a few years ago also. For a few months through New Years and Carnaval. Never once had an issue. In fact, I still visit with the owner, manager and staff whenever I am in Rio. Know them all by name.

As I correctly stated- My advice was for guys who know how to handle themselves.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2139284]It's not Brazil, It is fucking Mabs. Mabs and VM are the biggest zoo in the world followed that of San Diego and Guadajara. Mabs is filled with circus freaks walking around.[/QUOTE]Then don't go dude!

You're not obligated.

You obviously don't like it.

You're too young to be so angry.

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Geez!

[QUOTE=RioBob;2137850]I put together a short video of my 2018 pre carnival trip to Rio.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IakQaj5CNwo&t=7s[/URL][/QUOTE]Nice video, great production quality and hot babes.

The hot morena in the red dress at 2:48 is definitely my type. That looks like it might be Mabs. It can't be all bad. Did you talk to this girl and find out what her quote was?

I've found independent escorts in Sao Paulo to be a great time. The first girl in your video has a fabulous smile. You look to be a morena monster. What was the typical reais and time quoted by these escort girls?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2139401]Nice video, great production quality and hot babes.

The hot morena in the red dress at 2:48 is definitely my type. That looks like it might be Mabs. It can't be all bad. Did you talk to this girl and find out what her quote was?

I've found independent escorts in Sao Paulo to be a great time. The first girl in your video has a fabulous smile. You look to be a morena monster. What was the typical reais and time quoted by these escort girls?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Yes that was Mabs, that was a random picture I took with my phone of the super bowl, the girls just happen to be there. I did not speak to her but I think I heard her talk and she sounded like a trans so I didn't pursue. The other girls in the video were either from [URL]hotside.com[/URL] or dolce vita 350 reais, most of the escorts start out with 1 hour but on repeat visits after they know me I always tell them how much time and how much I want to pay and they usually go for it. Initially some asked even more than 350 but I asked if they could take 350 and they said yes. The Morena at 2. 57 is a Facebook friend of mine, we had just got back from a swing club to finish the night at my hotel and a little photo shoot, her I paid a little more because we were out all night.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2139416]Yes that was Mabs, that was a random picture I took with my phone of the super bowl, the girls just happen to be there. I did not speak to her but I think I heard her talk and she sounded like a trans so I didn't pursue. The other girls in the video were either from [URL]hotside.com[/URL] or dolce vita 350 reais, most of the escorts start out with 1 hour but on repeat visits after they know me I always tell them how much time and how much I want to pay and they usually go for it. Initially some asked even more than 350 but I asked if they could take 350 and they said yes. The Morena at 2. 57 is a Facebook friend of mine, we had just got back from a swing club to finish the night at my hotel and a little photo shoot, her I paid a little more because we were out all night.[/QUOTE]350 reais for 1 hour is too much. There is a crisis there. Offer 200 at most. A Dolce Vita / Mabs girl will come for half if you speak português. Also there are sites w escorts for much less but it depends on taste.

Hi guys,

I am in Rio in a few weeks time and want to ask about the privies etc. I have travelled about a bit and this is my second visit to Rio.

[QUOTE=Dave1111;2139585]Hi guys,

I am in Rio in a few weeks time and want to ask about the privies etc. I have travelled about a bit and this is my second visit to Rio.[/QUOTE]What are you looking to ask? I'm not am expert, but have had a good time at a few thanks to advice from here and a few other sources. They are a good option for budget friendly and occasionally find a gem. Personally, I prefer them over the termas, but mostly because the termas can be challenging to someone who doesn't speak Portuguese.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2139416]The Morena at 2. 57 is a Facebook friend of mine, we had just got back from a swing club to finish the night at my hotel and a little photo shoot, her I paid a little more because we were out all night.[/QUOTE]RioBob, do you mind me asking what your approximate age is? Kind of curious how old of guy is hitting up those type of hotties on Facebook.

That price is fair for those girls. The price in Sao Paulo seems to be around 350 reais for about 60-90 minutes with the better looking girls. There is a very small few superstars that try to push the price above 400, but I don't even bother with them.

[QUOTE=Tracer;2139736]What are you looking to ask? I'm not am expert, but have had a good time at a few thanks to advice from here and a few other sources. They are a good option for budget friendly and occasionally find a gem. Personally, I prefer them over the termas, but mostly because the termas can be challenging to someone who doesn't speak Portuguese.[/QUOTE]Hi,

I am staying close to Ipanema. Have used Monte Carlo a fair few times and MABS and DV. Picked up a few stunners opposite the Othon Palace Hotel I think its called. I have a very basic grasp of Portuguese from a CD course. I will be OK if they speak damn slowly and I do mean robot slow).

I have never tried the escort agencies but fancy giving that a go. I am over 40 and in good shape so could do with knowing a few good trendy bars where the 30 year old decent Brazilian women hang out.

I have never been to a privi or the red light district in centro. I am well travelled in Thailand Pattaya, Sosua and just came back from two months in Havana.

What do you guys do for mobile phones. I don't want an iPhone on the beach so need to buy a secondhand 4 g phone and a contract. Someone said zona sol shopping centre and you have to take your passport. How much is a cheap secondhand phone out there. Do you guys use Uber in Rio and how much is the taxi ride from the airport to Ipanema. How much are we paying for a chair and an umbrella on the beach. Basic questions but in all countries a pale skin and limited Portuguese means a lot of people try to rip us off all over the world.

What are the cheapest places to eat basic food, I am assuming anything away from the sea front and tourist sidewalk. Do they run a two price system, one for locals and one for residents as is the case in other countries.

Regards.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2139766]RioBob, do you mind me asking what your approximate age is? Kind of curious how old of guy is hitting up those type of hotties on Facebook.

That price is fair for those girls. The price in Sao Paulo seems to be around 350 reais for about 60-90 minutes with the better looking girls. There is a very small few superstars that try to push the price above 400, but I don't even bother with them.[/QUOTE]About a month or so before my trip I created a new Facebook page with a fictitious name. Filled it with my pictures of recent travels and then went to make some new GDP friends in Rio, I collected about 30 of them. Some analysis is needed of their friends list for things in common like obvious mongers and also mongers I know plus known people in Rio whose female friends would have a high probability of being a GDP, also pictures of them in known gdp places, I put together a nice collection. So if they're GDP's Then my age is not so important because they know who they are and why I requested their friendship. But from my postings you can tell I'm No youngster anymore but I'm young for my age. I always had a Rio Facebook page but I recently went dark in Rio LOL so I had to start all over again.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2139332]I stayed at the Premier a few years ago also. For a few months through New Years and Carnaval. Never once had an issue.
As I correctly stated- My advice was for guys who know how to handle themselves.[/QUOTE]You are still wrong! No surprise coming from you.

I book the room for 2 people. The dip shit didn't need to look all funny when I was coming in with a decent dressed girl. All he had to do was ask politely vs frowning. Funny how as soon as he checked the booking, it was ALL ok. That's exactly how to handle it. Shut him right the fuck up. After that the fucker never asked again!

Very smart RioBob.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;2139924]I book the room for 2 people. The dip shit didn't need to look all funny when I was coming in with a decent dressed girl. All he had to do was ask politely vs frowning. Funny how as soon as he checked the booking, it was ALL ok. That's exactly how to handle it. Shut him right the fuck up. After that the fucker never asked again![/QUOTE]My experience with Rio hotels is that every desk clerk / assistant manager will handle it differently. I'm not sure any Rio hotel operates under a specific rule. I've always paid for two and still had desk clerks try to charge me for a guest on the spot or sometimes surprise me at checkout. In the same hotel on the same stay, another desk clerk might not try to charge me anything. When it has occurred, I usually argue my case and they relent.

In fact, every few years the hotels that allow girls / don't allow girls seems to change. I'm curious, at a minimum don't your guests have to show ID at the desk?

[QUOTE=Kib123;2138511]FAMD,

Could you please recommend some of the girl friendly hotels? Planning my first trip to Rio and I'm getting very mixed messages from researching this forum. Would hate for this aspect to ruin my mongering adventure.

Would be a good idea to start a database regarding this issue as well.[/QUOTE]The Princess Promenade on rua Xavier the Silveira is girl friendly. When you take back a girl they merely require a copy of her ID card which they will photocopy. They will also get you to sign a form having filled in her details. So, all in all, it is good protection for you and the hotel. One thing that surprised is that when the girl leaves reception do not call to check all is OK. By way of contrast in the Philippines the reception always calls to make sure all is well.

As it is your first trip, one more tip, if you think the girl could be trouble (and in Rio many fit that category) then take her to a love motel such as Hotel Vanity on Nossa Senhora de Copacabana where you can rent a room for 4 hours. In Brazil love motels are a tradition and are designed for short stays.

Hi guys,

Just arrived in Rio for Carnaval with a buddy. Last night we went to Monte Carlo, there were some decent girls. I settled with a pretty black girl named Veve, who looks like Gabrielle Union and she was very good.

Anal, BBBJ, loved doggie, a good experience. Only issue was the cost, I paid for both of us and it was 1425.00 reals, yikes. 1 hour each 300 for the girl, 160 for the room and other miscellaneous charges.

That amped up the cost. Is 4 x 4 this expensive during carnaval as well? Was going to check out Solarium but I cannot even imagine how expensive they will be. Obviously all prices are increased due to Carnaval.

What are you veterans doing to get around these high prices?

[QUOTE=JamieStarr38;2140719]Hi guys,

Just arrived in Rio for Carnaval with a buddy. Last night we went to Monte Carlo, there were some decent girls. I settled with a pretty black girl named Veve, who looks like Gabrielle Union and she was very good.

Anal, BBBJ, loved doggie, a good experience. Only issue was the cost, I paid for both of us and it was 1425.00 reals, yikes. 1 hour each 300 for the girl, 160 for the room and other miscellaneous charges.

That amped up the cost. Is 4 x 4 this expensive during carnaval as well? Was going to check out Solarium but I cannot even imagine how expensive they will be. Obviously all prices are increased due to Carnaval.

What are you veterans doing to get around these high prices?[/QUOTE]Yikes! I thought I was spending $75 usd there 3 years ago when the dollar was weaker. Back then that would be around $60 at today's rates. Monte Carlo one of my top 5 thermaes. A local took me to a fast fuck place and sadly it was marked up because of his cut / commission. It is roughly $1 a minute. Outstanding lineup of a dozen girls. I couldn't locate the place by myself even though I was within a block or two of the place near copa beach. Paying with card was somehow cheaper even though they charge a surcharge. Simply avoid carnival and maybe you should have came before inflation and adjustments. If you go to the the old red light district beware of pickpockets.

[QUOTE=Rocinha;2140685]The Princess Promenade on rua Xavier the Silveira is girl friendly. When you take back a girl they merely require a copy of her ID card which they will photocopy. They will also get you to sign a form having filled in her details. So, all in all, it is good protection for you and the hotel. One thing that surprised is that when the girl leaves reception do not call to check all is OK. By way of contrast in the Philippines the reception always calls to make sure all is well.

As it is your first trip, one more tip, if you think the girl could be trouble (and in Rio many fit that category) then take her to a love motel such as Hotel Vanity on Nossa Senhora de Copacabana where you can rent a room for 4 hours. In Brazil love motels are a tradition and are designed for short stays.[/QUOTE]Hotel Vanity has vanished! It's now an educational office but hey they might have a spare room.

[QUOTE=JamieStarr38;2140719]Hi guys,

Just arrived in Rio for Carnaval with a buddy. Last night we went to Monte Carlo, there were some decent girls. I settled with a pretty black girl named Veve, who looks like Gabrielle Union and she was very good.

Anal, BBBJ, loved doggie, a good experience. Only issue was the cost, I paid for both of us and it was 1425.00 reals, yikes. 1 hour each 300 for the girl, 160 for the room and other miscellaneous charges.

That amped up the cost. Is 4 x 4 this expensive during carnaval as well? Was going to check out Solarium but I cannot even imagine how expensive they will be. Obviously all prices are increased due to Carnaval.

What are you veterans doing to get around these high prices?[/QUOTE]The numbers kind of add up.If sesh is 1 hour 460 per person is 920 and 200 entrance for 2 is 1120 so yall must have been hitting the drinks.

Mind you if you buying girls drinks it adds up so 1425 is plausible -the way to get around it is not to go to the tourist traps in zona sul and head for Centro or vm. I remember celebrating my birthday at Mc my 2nd time in brazil with no portugues hardly -had a 3some and shit loads of drinks and it came to 1400. 1 hour session in 2014

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2140845]Hotel Vanity has vanished! It's now an educational office but hey they might have a spare room.[/QUOTE]Hotel Vanity was still operating as of two weeks ago. You may be referring to the hostel which was next door which has now gone and I believe is some form of office.

[QUOTE=JamieStarr38;2140719]

What are you veterans doing to get around these high prices?[/QUOTE]Just do what the brazilians do. Get the girl's phone number and have them come to your place for a cheaper price. Tell them up front that you will not be taking them upstairs but you would like them to come to your place. Most will agree if you are staying in Copa because many girls don't pull customers every day. Offer her the cut she would receive if you paid for your pill at the front desk, I think its around 250 R.

I haven't had the best luck withthat technique at 4 x4 (maybe because the girls there get more customers or because they have to travel 2-3 hours to get hoime. But if the girl has to go to copa everyday for work an dyour apartment is close, I would think they would take you up on your offer.

[QUOTE=JamieStarr38;2140719]Hi guys,

Just arrived in Rio for Carnaval with a buddy. Last night we went to Monte Carlo, there were some decent girls. I settled with a pretty black girl named Veve, who looks like Gabrielle Union and she was very good.

Anal, BBBJ, loved doggie, a good experience. Only issue was the cost, I paid for both of us and it was 1425.00 reals, yikes. 1 hour each 300 for the girl, 160 for the room and other miscellaneous charges.

That amped up the cost. Is 4 x 4 this expensive during carnaval as well? Was going to check out Solarium but I cannot even imagine how expensive they will be. Obviously all prices are increased due to Carnaval.

What are you veterans doing to get around these high prices?[/QUOTE]To give you some perspective, what you get in Sao Paulo with your money during the carnival, I spent yesterday three hours with a Scandallo girl in a motel [URL]http://www.motelmyflowers.com.br/suite-lotus[/URL] (Bedroom with a 50 inch TV, reasonably priced minibar, toilet. Jacuzzi area with another TV, double shower, strip pole, sliding sunroof and other stuff [URL]http://www.motelmyflowers.com.br/tourvirtual/lotus/index.html[/URL]).

The damage was, Girl 600, Motel 180 (I took it for four hours, even if we used it only 3 hours), a dildo, two beers and a Coke 75.

It seems to me that Sao Paulo is cheaper than usual during the Carnaval. The business people are out and local men have to spend time with their families in the city or on the beach. The hotels are really cheap now and the girl said to me that she doesn't know if Scandallo is open, but if it is open, there is no business. She said that in Scandallo she asks 600 for an hour and can go down to 500, but not below that plus the client has to pay the entrance and the room. Now I get three hours of that same pussy for 600, which could be even less if I negotiated.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2140925]To give you some perspective, what you get in Sao Paulo with your money during the carnival, I spent yesterday three hours with a Scandallo girl in a motel [URL]http://www.motelmyflowers.com.br/suite-lotus[/URL] (Bedroom with a 50 inch TV, reasonably priced minibar, toilet. Jacuzzi area with another TV, double shower, strip pole, sliding sunroof and other stuff [URL]http://www.motelmyflowers.com.br/tourvirtual/lotus/index.html[/URL]).

The damage was, Girl 600, Motel 180 (I took it for four hours, even if we used it only 3 hours), a dildo, two beers and a Coke 75.

It seems to me that Sao Paulo is cheaper than usual during the Carnaval. The business people are out and local men have to spend time with their families in the city or on the beach. The hotels are really cheap now and the girl said to me that she doesn't know if Scandallo is open, but if it is open, there is no business. She said that in Scandallo she asks 600 for an hour and can go down to 500, but not below that plus the client has to pay the entrance and the room. Now I get three hours of that same pussy for 600, which could be even less if I negotiated.[/QUOTE]Apart from the length of time you are paying more. 855 . His price was for 2 people. Both prices are crazy. Short term girls shd be nowhere near but then again it is Scandallos which sounds like Centaurus if SP. Girls are just trying it. In Rio some of the same girls who you pay 400+ for for 1 hour with in a terma can be found working in 119 or VM for 130 an hour all inclusive. If you meet them there, then you can get a decent take out price -that's what Brazilians do and the gringo vets.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2140947]Apart from the length of time you are paying more. 855 . His price was for 2 people. Both prices are crazy. Short term girls shd be nowhere near but then again it is Scandallos which sounds like Centaurus if SP. Girls are just trying it. In Rio some of the same girls who you pay 400+ for for 1 hour with in a terma can be found working in 119 or VM for 130 an hour all inclusive. If you meet them there, then you can get a decent take out price -that's what Brazilians do and the gringo vets.[/QUOTE]I agree 100% with your comments. I was with a girl in VM and the next week saw her in La Dolce Vita. I didn't get the opportunity to ask her "Dolce Vita" price but her VM price was 100 reais / hour and I would guess that she may ask 300 or 250 in Dolce Vita. Pricing varies with location, and in that respect its not that different to real estate-"location, location, location" is the mantra of the real estate agents. The girls in Dolce Vita will ask 300 or even 400 because they think the market can support that price and some punters will pay that, it is market forces at work.

In another post a punter writes about the damage (in MC and in my humble opinion that is crazy money to pay. Just around the corner there is an apartment (Nossa Senhora No 583 apartamento 303) where 40 minutes is 110 reais. It is where the locals go as they leave MC for gringos eager to splash their cash.

It is not necessary to spend a lot of money to have a good time!

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2140947]Apart from the length of time you are paying more. 855 . His price was for 2 people. Both prices are crazy. Short term girls shd be nowhere near but then again it is Scandallos which sounds like Centaurus if SP. Girls are just trying it. In Rio some of the same girls who you pay 400+ for for 1 hour with in a terma can be found working in 119 or VM for 130 an hour all inclusive. If you meet them there, then you can get a decent take out price -that's what Brazilians do and the gringo vets.[/QUOTE]We arrived Monday, Tuesday due to Carnaval all prives, 4 x4 were closed so I went indy and checked out riosexsite. I contacted this very young sexy brunette named Sophia. [URL]http://www.riosexsite.com/acompanhante/Sophia.[/URL].

Paid her 500 reals for 1 hour but she did not watch the clock and was a very nice girl, gave me a porn star experience. So starting today, going to check out Bel Prazer and other privies in the centro area. I have another friend arriving.

Today, his first time in Brazil. So he has to experience a terma, so we will go to 4 x 4. What is the normal price for 4 x 4? Thanks for everyone's responses.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2140947]Apart from the length of time you are paying more. 855 . His price was for 2 people. Both prices are crazy. Short term girls shd be nowhere near but then again it is Scandallos which sounds like Centaurus if SP. Girls are just trying it. In Rio some of the same girls who you pay 400+ for for 1 hour with in a terma can be found working in 119 or VM for 130 an hour all inclusive. If you meet them there, then you can get a decent take out price -that's what Brazilians do and the gringo vets.[/QUOTE]I knew this was coming. For some people the hole is important and for others, what is around the hole. Of course I should have written my point with Capital, Bold and Underlined letters, that it seems to me that during the Carnaval, the mongering price goes down in Sao Paulo, but stays the same or goes up in Rio. My point was not to criticize the poster. If I went to Rio, I would definitely go to Monte Carlo, 4 x4 and others. I have found my way to enjoy my holidays in SP, and leave Rio, VM and Favelas to the "experienced" mongers.

What comes to the hourly price, in my case it could have been 200 for the girl, 79 for the Suite Violeta which is still very nice (there are also thrashy motels that cost 20, if you want to get that VM feeling and fuck standing with your shoes on, because the bed and the floor are so dirty) and maybe 30 for the beers. Totaling around 310.

Your statement what gringo vets and Brazilians do is totally wrong. Like there was only one way to do it correctly. You go to any of the thousands of establishments in SP and in every single one of them, the majority of the clients are Brazilians, meaning that there are thousands of ways to do it. Not every Brazilian is there to collect phone numbers. These places would go bankrupt in a very short time. Maybe that's what is happening in Rio. I hear that it's not what it used to be.

I could go on and on, but I have to go to a supermarket to buy whipped cream, jello, chocolate puddings and stuff. I'm going to go to the same motel, with the same girl plus her friend and going to play with the girls and the groceries in the Jacuzzi.

Peace.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2140911]Just do what the brazilians do. Get the girl's phone number and have them come to your place for a cheaper price. Tell them up front that you will not be taking them upstairs but you would like them to come to your place. Most will agree if you are staying in Copa because many girls don't pull customers every day. Offer her the cut she would receive if you paid for your pill at the front desk, I think its around 250 R.

I haven't had the best luck withthat technique at 4 x4 (maybe because the girls there get more customers or because they have to travel 2-3 hours to get hoime. But if the girl has to go to copa everyday for work an dyour apartment is close, I would think they would take you up on your offer.[/QUOTE]I have been doing this but have been sampling the girls on site first. However, my success rate of actually getting the girls to my hotel have not been that good. They all give me their whatsapp but an average of 1 in 3 make it to my hotel. I blame it on the carnival. However, every single girl I have been with in Brazil so far has been good service wise and my guess is that you can request the girl's contact for later action at your hotel / apartment without necessarily sampling on site.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2141122]I knew this was coming. For some people the hole is important and for others, what is around the hole. Of course I should have written my point with Capital, Bold and Underlined letters, that it seems to me that during the Carnaval, the mongering price goes down in Sao Paulo, but stays the same or goes up in Rio. My point was not to criticize the poster. If I went to Rio, I would definitely go to Monte Carlo, 4 x4 and others. I have found my way to enjoy my holidays in SP, and leave Rio, VM and Favelas to the "experienced" mongers.

What comes to the hourly price, in my case it could have been 200 for the girl, 79 for the Suite Violeta which is still very nice (there are also thrashy motels that cost 20, if you want to get that VM feeling and fuck standing with your shoes on, because the bed and the floor are so dirty) and maybe 30 for the beers. Totaling around 310.

Your statement what gringo vets and Brazilians do is totally wrong. Like there was only one way to do it correctly. You go to any of the thousands of establishments in SP and in every single one of them, the majority of the clients are Brazilians, meaning that there are thousands of ways to do it. Not every Brazilian is there to collect phone numbers. These places would go bankrupt in a very short time. Maybe that's what is happening in Rio. I hear that it's not what it used to be.

I could go on and on, but I have to go to a supermarket to buy whipped cream, jello, chocolate puddings and stuff. I'm going to go to the same motel, with the same girl plus her friend and going to play with the girls and the groceries in the Jacuzzi.

Peace.[/QUOTE]Of course I'm talking about Rio and granted Carnaval is tricky as some chicks want to party and some want to make $. I've never mongered in sp but I actually make a good point - the same girl can many times be had cheaper as she works 2/3 spots without having to fuck
Standing up. Take her to motel from
Cheap
Trash boite is perfect as she’ll never charge terma take out type level prices ie you can afford x so me for an hour outside shd be x!!! Lol. Fcuk that and enjoy the whip cream jacuzzi

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2141166]Of course I'm talking about Rio and granted Carnaval is tricky as some chicks want to party and some want to make $. I've never mongered in sp but I actually make a good point - the same girl can many times be had cheaper as she works 2/3 spots without having to fuck
Standing up. Take her to motel from
Cheap
Trash boite is perfect as shell never charge terma take out type level prices ie you can afford x so me for an hour outside shd be x!!! Lol. Fcuk that and enjoy the whip cream jacuzzi[/QUOTE]Cheers,

I don't disagree with you as much as it may seem. Sometimes I'm not so good explaining myself. I also take phone numbers from the girl and take them back to my hotel later or their day off. I have just been surprised how good place SP is for mongering during the Carnaval. I thought that the mongering opportunities would be much worse during it, but surprisingly many girls (south of Brazil) say that they don't like the Carnaval. When I get top girls, for the price of a clinica girl, I don't negotiate much, just grab the offer. Maybe I'm too lazy.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2140947]Apart from the length of time you are paying more. 855 . His price was for 2 people. Both prices are crazy. Short term girls shd be nowhere near but then again it is Scandallos which sounds like Centaurus if SP. Girls are just trying it. In Rio some of the same girls who you pay 400+ for for 1 hour with in a terma can be found working in 119 or VM for 130 an hour all inclusive. If you meet them there, then you can get a decent take out price -that's what Brazilians do and the gringo vets.[/QUOTE]That's exactly right!

Nothing wrong with hitting the high end spots in either city, however, I've found in both cities, garotas that work the lower end places as well as the high end at times, hoping to land a fish, LOL.

We've all got our budgets to hunt within, so whatever makes you happy!

Enjoy!

Thanks for putting together this video. It looks like at the 3:44 mark that's the stairway to heaven from Help, and I correct? That brings back some great memories. I've always wondered if that business model has been duplicated to that same level of success at Help. I pulled some stunners that are still top 10 in my spank bank. I've seen some clubs try to duplicate it, but never with the same vibe. Damn shame if you ask me.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=RioBob;2137850]I put together a short video of my 2018 pre carnival trip to Rio.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IakQaj5CNwo&t=7s[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chezz;2142124]Thanks for putting together this video. It looks like at the 3:44 mark that's the stairway to heaven from Help, and I correct? That brings back some great memories. I've always wondered if that business model has been duplicated to that same level of success at Help. I pulled some stunners that are still top 10 in my spank bank. I've seen some clubs try to duplicate it, but never with the same vibe. Damn shame if you ask me.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Yes you are correct and that banister, how many girls slid down that banister upon leaving Help. There's an empty video and sound museum in the middle of Copacabana they can use for a new disco, perfect location.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2142425]Yes you are correct and that banister, how many girls slid down that banister upon leaving Help. There's an empty video and sound museum in the middle of Copacabana they can use for a new disco, perfect location.[/QUOTE]Good point! This museu do imagem is a symbol of everything that's wrong with brasil. Name me Any huge building on one of the best roads facing a world famous beach allowed to be incomplete and empty for 6 years? Kick backs, pay offs and back scratching. We could have had Help 2 The Sequel.

Thanks to generous experts here, I have a good feel for what to expect on my upcoming Rio trip. One question:

Barra de Tijuca: Is this outpost good for anything mongering-wise? Is it worth a 2-3 day stopover during a 10-day Rio mongering adventure? Or I better spend my precious time in Copa and Centro?

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2142567]Good point! This museu do imagem is a symbol of everything that's wrong with brasil. Name me Any huge building on one of the best roads facing a world famous beach allowed to be incomplete and empty for 6 years? Kick backs, pay offs and back scratching. We could have had Help 2 The Sequel.[/QUOTE]You are spot on. The building is a farce and everyone agrees. They destroyed the world's best disco for nothing. The museum was an absurd idea in the first place and to locate it on a beach even adds a comic touch to the absurdity. Who was ever going to visit a museum on Copacabana beach. The question now is will the building ever be finished, and if so, what to do with it? Maybe open a disco-Help 2 as you note. Rio doesn't need to be worried about its image now the world cup and Olympics have been and gone. The kind of tourist who might visit a museum are too frightened to travel to Rio anyway.

[QUOTE=Rocinha;2142587]The kind of tourist who might visit a museum are too frightened to travel to Rio anyway.[/QUOTE]Not true! I like museums! Hehehe!

[QUOTE=Rocinha;2142587]You are spot on. The building is a farce and everyone agrees. They destroyed the world's best disco for nothing. The museum was an absurd idea in the first place and to locate it on a beach even adds a comic touch to the absurdity. Who was ever going to visit a museum on Copacabana beach. The question now is will the building ever be finished, and if so, what to do with it? Maybe open a disco-Help 2 as you note. Rio doesn't need to be worried about its image now the world cup and Olympics have been and gone. The kind of tourist who might visit a museum are too frightened to travel to Rio anyway.[/QUOTE]People don't come to Copa for a museum period! They go to Centro or any other part. To put a museum on a beach is just so pointless. And this is true -Rios image is now mainly a hot bed for violence and the civil war between gangs and police and also general muggings. I hardly know a girl who hasn't been robbed lately. Definetely don't walk with fancy phone or credit cards or lots of money,. Walk with used phone and enough money for the day and that's it. Rio could def use a Help 2. Main obstacle is a right- wing conservative evangelical mayor who doesn't even approve of carnival. He'll fight it tooth and nail to please his fan base but Rio could use the tourist $ for sure and it’s gonna come to a head soon...Rio is desperate so can’t afford to be too precious about where the money is coming from tbh..I mean they just drafted in the military to help control the favelas cause the local
Police ain’t got money for gas and their low wages means no one wants To risk anything.The military has a big pension so they are more likely to be loyal to the establishment

[QUOTE=Kib123;2142580]Thanks to generous experts here, I have a good feel for what to expect on my upcoming Rio trip. One question:

Barra de Tijuca: Is this outpost good for anything mongering-wise? Is it worth a 2-3 day stopover during a 10-day Rio mongering adventure? Or I better spend my precious time in Copa and Centro?[/QUOTE]I wouldn't spend 2/3 minutes there let alone 2/3 days in Barra Tijuca. Want to see it go for the afternoon to the beach with metro. Mongering is not the one there.

[QUOTE=Kib123;2142580]Thanks to generous experts here, I have a good feel for what to expect on my upcoming Rio trip. One question:

Barra de Tijuca: Is this outpost good for anything mongering-wise? Is it worth a 2-3 day stopover during a 10-day Rio mongering adventure? Or I better spend my precious time in Copa and Centro?[/QUOTE]Barra is great if you have a few trips behind you, if you are pretty good with Portuguese and if you have time. I have stayed there for a week and also make sure to do a run on each of my trips the past 2 years.

There are generally 3 options for mongering which are clinicas / privees, independents that have apartments and also boates (like Barbarella's). Many older GDPs (in their 30's) have apartments / condos that they work out of in front of the beach (Av. Lucio Costa).

Another plus this is where a lot of tier 1 termas GDPs go to the beach (Praia do Pepe) and also hang out. The nightlife there is pretty good for non-pros too! There is Olegario Marciel a famous area with bars, Boate All In one of the hottest nightclubs, and several beach clubs like Pesquiero. GDPs frequent these establishments as well.

These two boates are affiliated with 4 x4:

[URL]http://perolanegraclub.com.br[/URL] (Barra the Tijuca).

[URL]http://www.pariscafe.com.br[/URL] (20 minutes by uber to Recreio).

Clinicas / Privees.

[URL]http://www.clinicaeuroriospa.com.br[/URL]

[URL]http://barratoprio.com.br[/URL]

[URL]http://www.lacosterapia.com[/URL]

[URL]http://www.liriosterapia.com.br[/URL]

[URL]http://www.barralounge.com/terapeutas.html[/URL]

Independents:

[URL]http://www.barravipsrio.com[/URL]

[URL]https://barraclube.com.br/acompanhantes.php[/URL]

Good luck.

[QUOTE=Safado69;2142827]Barra is great if you have a few trips behind you, if you are pretty good with Portuguese and if you have time.[/QUOTE]I agree with Safado69. There are a lot of options to be tapped in Barra. It's just that there's a lot to tap in Copa and Centro too! So, you have to have the time. If I lived down there, I would definitely spend more time investigating Barra, which I in fact did do during one of my Rio trips. So if you find the time, check it out. Then tell us about it!

[QUOTE=Safado69;2142827]Barra is great if you have a few trips behind you, if you are pretty good with Portuguese and if you have time. I have stayed there for a week and also make sure to do a run on each of my trips the past 2 years.[/QUOTE]Amazing how a guy with 200+ posts schooled a guy with almost 900 posts.

Wonder how that happened?

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2142698]People don't come to Copa for a museum period! They go to Centro or any other part. To put a museum on a beach is just so pointless. And this is true -Rios image is now mainly a hot bed for violence and the civil war between gangs and police and also general muggings. I hardly know a girl who hasn't been robbed lately. Definetely don't walk with fancy phone or credit cards or lots of money,. Walk with used phone and enough money for the day and that's it. Rio could def use a Help 2. Main obstacle is a right- wing conservative evangelical mayor who doesn't even approve of carnival. He'll fight it tooth and nail to please his fan base but Rio could use the tourist $ for sure and its gonna come to a head soon...Rio is desperate so cant afford to be too precious about where the money is coming from tbh..I mean they just drafted in the military to help control the favelas cause the local
Police aint got money for gas and their low wages means no one wants To risk anything.The military has a big pension so they are more likely to be loyal to the establishment[/QUOTE]Right-wing conservative evangelicals are messing up countries in many ways. They want to ban p4p but either secretly fuck working girls or are closet homosexuals.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2142884]Right-wing conservative evangelicals are messing up countries in many ways. They want to ban p4p but either secretly fuck working girls or are closet homosexuals.[/QUOTE]The same shit happens in the USA. Fucking religious people are all gays or run after P4P girls on the sly. I feel like most religious people are undeclared gays that give head to each other, that's why gay marriage is now recognized. The world is going to crap.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2142884]Right-wing conservative evangelicals are messing up countries in many ways. They want to ban p4p but either secretly fuck working girls or are closet homosexuals.[/QUOTE]Canada is going down the drain too, I haven't been to Canada for ages.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2142936]Canada is going down the drain too, I haven't been to Canada for ages.[/QUOTE]OK guys I am in Rio now a short distance from a subway called General Osario. This is not a cheap area at all. About 7/8 pm tonight I am getting showered and all hell breaks loose outside the apartment. Heavy rifle fire going off, thud thud thud. I counted thirty shots fired. It was damn close and I hit the deck as was scared of a stray round. The whole street was shouting out to each other then the place went completely silent. No people cars or anything. Apparently the nearby favela took a shot at a passing police or military vehicle and the Police etc opened up. They were blasting away into that favela where kids and elderly and a lot of good people live. I am not blaming the Police at all but Jesus, this was like being a war correspondent in Syria. God knows what those bullets hit but they landed somewhere. I will be honest it scared me big time and I am not a wet blanket.

Re religious nuts on both sides then I agree totally, the British church is up to its eyes in scandal and it hushes it up. The Muslims here want to stone all homosexuals to death but recently I heard of one being caught cottaging with another guy. It's all rubbish. All I say to everyone is voice your views and do not be silenced The left wing media in my country in my opinion is rotten to the core. I do not even listen to the BBC news anymore as they don't report fairly and do not represent what me and my friends think anymore. The agenda that's being thrust down our throats Re being gay or transgender is something I find offensive and it makes me fight back. These are my personal views and those of my seven close mates. It's my right to have a view so I am not apologising to anyone and am not looking to start an argument here.

[QUOTE=Safado69;2142827]
These two boates are affiliated with 4 x4:

[URL]http://perolanegraclub.com.br[/URL] (Barra the Tijuca).

[URL]http://www.pariscafe.com.br[/URL] (20 minutes by uber to Recreio).

Clinicas / Privees.

[URL]http://www.clinicaeuroriospa.com.br[/URL]

[URL]http://barratoprio.com.br[/URL]

[URL]http://www.lacosterapia.com[/URL]

[URL]http://www.liriosterapia.com.br[/URL]

[URL]http://www.barralounge.com/terapeutas.html[/URL]

Independents:

[URL]http://www.barravipsrio.com[/URL]

[URL]https://barraclube.com.br/acompanhantes.php[/URL]

Good luck.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the intel and links, good homework to keep me busy for a bit. Some of the Indies look delicious.

Will definitely try to check it out at least on a day trip as others have suggested.

[QUOTE=Dave1111;2143073]OK guys I am in Rio now a short distance from a subway called General Osario. This is not a cheap area at all. About 7/8 pm tonight I am getting showered and all hell breaks loose outside the apartment. Heavy rifle fire going off, thud thud thud. I counted thirty shots fired. It was damn close and I hit the deck as was scared of a stray round. The whole street was shouting out to each other then the place went completely silent. No people cars or anything. Apparently the nearby favela took a shot at a passing police or military vehicle and the Police etc opened up. They were blasting away into that favela where kids and elderly and a lot of good people live. I am not blaming the Police at all but Jesus, this was like being a war correspondent in Syria. God knows what those bullets hit but they landed somewhere. I will be honest it scared me big time and I am not a wet blanket.

Re religious nuts on both sides then I agree totally, the British church is up to its eyes in scandal and it hushes it up. The Muslims here want to stone all homosexuals to death but recently I heard of one being caught cottaging with another guy. It's all rubbish. All I say to everyone is voice your views and do not be silenced The left wing media in my country in my opinion is rotten to the core. I do not even listen to the BBC news anymore as they don't report fairly and do not represent what me and my friends think anymore. The agenda that's being thrust down our throats Re being gay or transgender is something I find offensive and it makes me fight back. These are my personal views and those of my seven close mates. It's my right to have a view so I am not apologising to anyone and am not looking to start an argument here.[/QUOTE]There seems to be an undeclared civil war in Brazil now. The economy is going to crap and the poor have it hard. They want to live well too. Dress well, eat at restaurants and bang working girls but can't. Anger is reflected even on the soccer field - 10 red cards given out at a game between Bahia and Vitorio yesterday. One would have thought that with increased poverty there would be more working girls but that is not the case, seems to be much less than my last visit in 2016. Quality the same though.

I have observed that billionaires are like religious fanatics. They cannot have normal sex. To become a billionaire you must have strong hatred for humanity and with that mindset one can never have normal sex, it must be deviant sex where you cause emotional and physical torment to an individual. Read about the bilderberg group and child sex.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2143387]There seems to be an undeclared civil war in Brazil now. The economy is going to crap and the poor have it hard. They want to live well too. Dress well, eat at restaurants and bang working girls but can't. Anger is reflected even on the soccer field - 10 red cards given out at a game between Bahia and Vitorio yesterday. One would have thought that with increased poverty there would be more working girls but that is not the case, seems to be much less than my last visit in 2016. Quality the same though.

I have observed that billionaires are like religious fanatics. They cannot have normal sex. To become a billionaire you must have strong hatred for humanity and with that mindset one can never have normal sex, it must be deviant sex where you cause emotional and physical torment to an individual. Read about the bilderberg group and child sex.[/QUOTE]Favela Cantagalo got 2 entries-one near you. Favela PPG near Nossa and p5 is always problematic but this whole problem will only grow and grow. Rio is going to become more savage because the majority of people are being treated savage. Only plus is a big real estate drop in price but im gettin a free bullet proof vest when i pay deposit they promised me.Look forward to hitttin trash terma in my best vest soon!

[QUOTE=Kib123;2142580]Thanks to generous experts here, I have a good feel for what to expect on my upcoming Rio trip. One question:

Barra de Tijuca: Is this outpost good for anything mongering-wise? Is it worth a 2-3 day stopover during a 10-day Rio mongering adventure? Or I better spend my precious time in Copa and Centro?[/QUOTE]Ten days is a good, long trip so it's not a terrible idea. I think you can base yourself in Copa or Ipanema and still check out Barra here and there. You have better access to Centro when staying in Copa or Ipanema. My impression from visiting Barra a few times is that everything is spread out more.

Language really shouldn't be too much a concern in your decision if your patient, easy-going and put in a bit of time picking up some basic words and phrases. Some foreign visitors show up and attempt to speak English to everyone they encounter.

This is just my opinion regarding Barra.

[QUOTE=Dave1111;2143073]Re religious nuts on both sides then I agree totally, the British church is up to its eyes in scandal and it hushes it up. The Muslims here want to stone all homosexuals to death but recently I heard of one being caught cottaging with another guy. It's all rubbish. All I say to everyone is voice your views and do not be silenced The left wing media in my country in my opinion is rotten to the core. I do not even listen to the BBC news anymore as they don't report fairly and do not represent what me and my friends think anymore. The agenda that's being thrust down our throats Re being gay or transgender is something I find offensive and it makes me fight back. These are my personal views and those of my seven close mates. It's my right to have a view so I am not apologising to anyone and am not looking to start an argument here.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry, but that's a whole lot of venting about a variety of topics.

I saw on a Brazilian forum, 502 is now open on Saturdays.

Anyone has been to Cancun recently. There are new stunners?

Hi,

I'll be in Rio in mid-March for a few days. I'm not conversational in Portuguese and I'm not sure how many useful words / phrases I'll pick up prior to going. I have RTFF and found that the best bet for unfortunately-language-challenged people like me are the Termas. I'm staying at JW Marriott on Copacabana.

I plan to hit up Monte Carlo and 4 X 4. Do any of the girls there speak English?

Are there any girls I can have over at JWM, given my lack of Portuguese speaking skills?

Responses appreciated. I'll definitely post a review for all your assistance.

[QUOTE=Yamazaki77;2144982]Hi,

I'll be in Rio in mid-March for a few days. I'm not conversational in Portuguese and I'm not sure how many useful words / phrases I'll pick up prior to going. I have RTFF and found that the best bet for unfortunately-language-challenged people like me are the Termas. I'm staying at JW Marriott on Copacabana.

I plan to hit up Monte Carlo and 4 X 4. Do any of the girls there speak English?

Are there any girls I can have over at JWM, given my lack of Portuguese speaking skills?

Responses appreciated. I'll definitely post a review for all your assistance.[/QUOTE]Monte Carlo, Solarium, Centaurus gringo mouse trap will have some girls with some english-4 x4 could have yes. Google translate app shd help you and yes you can have them over just don't agree to any old price they throw out. Pricing should be fair and not equivalent to what you pay at terma. Remember the girls only make probably 180 an hour at 4 x 4 for themselves- likewise at the other 3 I mentioned-girls pay to keep a spot and don't get to keep the whole fee for girl at termas. Allocated to them on bill so figure out sth fair. Cancun in Centro might also have some girls with a bit of english as it caters to more of a business vibe. T65 too. Good luck bro. See if you can get them over for 250-300 for 2/3 hours. In the beginning I was getting hit with 500 for short term-I refused and lost some but won same ones with persistence later on...mainly be charming and make em wanna be with you as no portugues makes you an automatic walking ATM and a mark. Even Mabs on Avenida atlantica might have some english speakers but will charge you 350 for an hour as soon as they hear you don’t speak portugues vs half of you do.Hold your corner!!!

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2145063]Monte Carlo, Solarium, Centaurus gringo mouse trap will have some girls with some english-4 x4 could have yes. Google translate app shd help you and yes you can have them over just don't agree to any old price they throw out. Pricing should be fair and not equivalent to what you pay at terma. Remember the girls only make probably 180 an hour at 4 x 4 for themselves- likewise at the other 3 I mentioned-girls pay to keep a spot and don't get to keep the whole fee for girl at termas. Allocated to them on bill so figure out sth fair. Cancun in Centro might also have some girls with a bit of english as it caters to more of a business vibe. T65 too. Good luck bro. See if you can get them over for 250-300 for 2/3 hours. In the beginning I was getting hit with 500 for short term-I refused and lost some but won same ones with persistence later on...mainly be charming and make em wanna be with you as no portugues makes you an automatic walking ATM and a mark. Even Mabs on Avenida atlantica might have some english speakers but will charge you 350 for an hour as soon as they hear you dont speak portugues vs half of you do.Hold your corner!!![/QUOTE]Thanks FuckAfMedDig, will do as suggested. Appreciate the response very much.

What about any reviewed girls on GPGuia or other Brazilian forums? I suppose they are out of the picture over the phone unless I can WhatsApp them with the help of some language translation.

I'm arriving on a Sunday when I believe Termas are closed and from what I've read, those are all closed on Sunday.

[QUOTE=Yamazaki77;2144982]Hi,

I'll be in Rio in mid-March for a few days. I'm not conversational in Portuguese and I'm not sure how many useful words / phrases I'll pick up prior to going. I have RTFF and found that the best bet for unfortunately-language-challenged people like me are the Termas. I'm staying at JW Marriott on Copacabana.

I plan to hit up Monte Carlo and 4 X 4. Do any of the girls there speak English?

Are there any girls I can have over at JWM, given my lack of Portuguese speaking skills?

Responses appreciated. I'll definitely post a review for all your assistance.[/QUOTE]You will do just fine.

The number of members of this forum who speak Portuguese with even the slightest degree of fluency is very small. Their lack of language skills has not deterred them.

The staff at the Marriott speak English quite well and the hotel is one of the few that are girl-friendly (according to forum members) so there should be no problem with bringing girls back.

You could order in from the following escort site. There is an English version and an option for selecting English Speaking girls.

[URL]http://www.riosexsite.com/escorts-rio-de-janeiro/speaks-english[/URL]

Check out posts by Rio Bob. His arrival in Brazil predates the Portuguese, and he often writes about escorts and escort sites.

Whatever you do, do not rely on Google Translations. There is nothing sadder than a Gringo sitting across the table from a poor bored Brazilian girl while he fumbles with his phone. Showing respect and smiling is a universal language. The girls appreciate that a lot more than a Gringo who is only semi-literate even in his native language speaking loudly and saying moo-to 200 times. And, don't worry so much about overpaying, you will. The current exchange rate is about 3:1 so keep that in mind and counteroffer in Reais or walk away from anyone trying to offer you anything in dollars. Speaking of walking away. You do not need a "guide" to take you to the termas. All the street touts do is bring you to the door and collect a fee.

Truth be told, on my first visit to Rio, I had a bilingual driver and security with me at all times. The night I gave them off, I was almost robbed and also subjected to an attempted shakedown by the police. So, I know the apprehensions you are feeling. I learned to avoid parked taxis, especially in front of large discos, girls with shoulders broader than mine and the bad advice offered up by gringos.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2145063]Monte Carlo, Solarium, Centaurus gringo mouse trap will have some girls with some english-4 x4 could have yes. Google translate app shd help you and yes you can have them over just don't agree to any old price they throw out. Pricing should be fair and not equivalent to what you pay at terma. Remember the girls only make probably 180 an hour at 4 x 4 for themselves- likewise at the other 3 I mentioned-girls pay to keep a spot and don't get to keep the whole fee for girl at termas. Allocated to them on bill so figure out sth fair. Cancun in Centro might also have some girls with a bit of english as it caters to more of a business vibe. T65 too. Good luck bro. See if you can get them over for 250-300 for 2/3 hours. In the beginning I was getting hit with 500 for short term-I refused and lost some but won same ones with persistence later on...mainly be charming and make em wanna be with you as no portugues makes you an automatic walking ATM and a mark. Even Mabs on Avenida atlantica might have some english speakers but will charge you 350 for an hour as soon as they hear you dont speak portugues vs half of you do.Hold your corner!!![/QUOTE]Girls in 4 by 4 make 210 reais per session.

[QUOTE=Yamazaki77;2145107]Thanks FuckAfMedDig, will do as suggested. Appreciate the response very much.

What about any reviewed girls on GPGuia or other Brazilian forums? I suppose they are out of the picture over the phone unless I can WhatsApp them with the help of some language translation.

I'm arriving on a Sunday when I believe Termas are closed and from what I've read, those are all closed on Sunday.[/QUOTE]You don't need to speak Portuguese to fuck prostitutes, unless you want some games with regulars and have more time to spend in Brazil, Learn Portuguese. Don't forget you always pay expensive for rooms and facilities in termas and not for girls. Every high end termas cater to high class Brazilians. So there is no trap. The only gringo traps in Rio are clubs in Copacabana, streetwalkers and Mabs full of hags and losers. Mabs is not a rip off, just avoid some girls and people around but if you like to see night actions, Mabs will be a good place to be. Talent is not really good out there.

Monday is not far off, just pack your stuff away and taste some Brazilian food on your first day in Rio and then walk over to Mabs to drink something at around 10 pm while watching some actions. After 12 AM just take a taxi to go back to your place if you don't live nearby. Just sleep well, 4 by4 opens from 11 AM to 3 AM. Just enjoy as many pussies as you can in any terma you hit. Time is more expensive than money. Your vacation is precious, don't go back to your home country regretfully.

Enjoy your visit to Rio de Janeiro.

[QUOTE=Yamazaki77;2145107]Thanks FuckAfMedDig, will do as suggested. Appreciate the response very much.

What about any reviewed girls on GPGuia or other Brazilian forums? I suppose they are out of the picture over the phone unless I can WhatsApp them with the help of some language translation.

I'm arriving on a Sunday when I believe Termas are closed and from what I've read, those are all closed on Sunday.[/QUOTE]Any reviewed girls can work-you can use google translate on WhatsApp and agree price and length of time and location-Marriott. Truth Be told I hammered Monte Carlo and 4 x 4 on my first visit in 2013 to great effect and I managed a visit to motel panda- good short time hotel in Botafogo (minimum 4 hours I recall)if you want 3 somes etc as your hotel prob will bark at more than 1 female guest. Grab 2 and head for motel panda and bang out-places like that have everything you need in the menu from food to viagra to condoms etc LOL. Go wild bro -it's Rio-one giant *****house in the sun.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2145352]Any reviewed girls can work-you can use google translate on WhatsApp and agree price and length of time and location-Marriott. Truth Be told I hammered Monte Carlo and 4 x 4 on my first visit in 2013 to great effect and I managed a visit to motel panda- good short time hotel in Botafogo (minimum 4 hours I recall)if you want 3 somes etc as your hotel prob will bark at more than 1 female guest. Grab 2 and head for motel panda and bang out-places like that have everything you need in the menu from food to viagra to condoms etc LOL. Go wild bro -it's Rio-one giant *****house in the sun.[/QUOTE]Google translate is a good tool in any country, Google translate was very useful to me in Russia. But nothing is better than a guide that speaks the local language. In Brazil, he just needs to talk using his money and dick. It would be better if he rents an apartment, condo or studio. Privacy beats any Brazilian hotel comfort.

Centaurus, Friday night.

I've noticed that many on this site loves to bash Centaurus but I consider the Centaurus girls to be generally better looking than their counterparts at MC. I would rate their looks as 8/10.

What I didn't like was the vibe, I can't really put words on what it really was. I also suspect that they padded my bill.

The session was great thought and the girl was a smoking hot Carioca morena.

When I arrived I paid 160 R for entrance, before going to the room I paid 460 R for the girl and 225 R for the drinks as I was leaving.

So I ended up paying 845 reais in total.

Monte Carlo, Thursday night.

I liked it, my bill ended up being just 580 R for a 40 minute session, three caperinhas and a vodka com red bull.

I would rate the girls by their looks in general to be 7/10. I suspect that I ended up paying less than I should've.

Another great session with a loira this time.

Mabs.

I went to Mabs on Thursday and Friday, clearly it's nothing compared to the two termas mentioned above but I did manage to find a GDP from Minas Gerais that I liked and did an all night with for 200 reais.

A great session and she didn't try to rob me or hustle me.

Overall I saw more girls that I wouldn't fuck for free and less than a handful that I would even consider to do.

Pestana.

Went there on two nights, Thursday & Friday, and didn't see anything that resembled a working girl.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2145493]


Pestana.

Went there on two nights, Thursday & Friday, and didn't see anything that resembled a working girl.[/QUOTE]Hello I will in Rio in 2 weeks, just for my information at what time you were in Pestana?

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2145493]Centaurus, Friday night.

I've noticed that many on this site loves to bash Centaurus but I consider the Centaurus girls to be generally better looking than their counterparts at MC. I would rate their looks as 8/10.

What I didn't like was the vibe, I can't really put words on what it really was. I also suspect that they padded my bill.

The session was great thought and the girl was a smoking hot Carioca morena.

When I arrived I paid 160 R for entrance, before going to the room I paid 460 R for the girl and 225 R for the drinks as I was leaving.

So I ended up paying 845 reais in total.

Monte Carlo, Thursday night.

I liked it, my bill ended up being just 580 R for a 40 minute session, three caperinhas and a vodka com red bull.

I would rate the girls by their looks in general to be 7/10. I suspect that I ended up paying less than I should've.

Another great session with a loira this time.

Mabs.

I went to Mabs on Thursday and Friday, clearly it's nothing compared to the two termas mentioned above but I did manage to find a GDP from Minas Gerais that I liked and did an all night with for 200 reais.

A great session and she didn't try to rob me or hustle me.

Overall I saw more girls that I wouldn't fuck for free and less than a handful that I would even consider to do.

Pestana.

Went there on two nights, Thursday & Friday, and didn't see anything that resembled a working girl.[/QUOTE]My last visit to Centaurus was over ten years ago. Then, they had the hottest girls of any terma. I really like sessioning the hottest girls. However, I have resisted going to Scandallo or Bomboa here in Sao Paulo as the price is so restrictive. If the girls at Centaurus are as hot as those at Scandallo and Bomboa are reputed to be it may be worth my while to do weekend trips to Rio to check out the garotas at Centaurus which, I would imagine, are still the hottest in Rio.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2145668]My last visit to Centaurus was over ten years ago. Then, they had the hottest girls of any terma. I really like sessioning the hottest girls. However, I have resisted going to Scandallo or Bomboa here in Sao Paulo as the price is so restrictive. If the girls at Centaurus are as hot as those at Scandallo and Bomboa are reputed to be it may be worth my while to do weekend trips to Rio to check out the garotas at Centaurus which, I would imagine, are still the hottest in Rio.[/QUOTE]They are as hot as girls in other termas, there are stunners in every terma only the vibe changes. Centaurus is more expensive due to the location. Ipanema is a very expensive area. Many girls from Centaurus work in other termas or even in SP.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2145493]Centaurus, Friday night.


What I didn't like was the vibe, I can't really put words on what it really was. I also suspect that they padded my bill.

[/QUOTE]I have had the same issue in the past and learned that it was not the management nor staff that padded my bill. It was girls getting drinks on my numbered bracelet.

When I addressed it to the manager it was always taken care off.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2145668]My last visit to Centaurus was over ten years ago. Then, they had the hottest girls of any terma. I really like sessioning the hottest girls. However, I have resisted going to Scandallo or Bomboa here in Sao Paulo as the price is so restrictive. If the girls at Centaurus are as hot as those at Scandallo and Bomboa are reputed to be it may be worth my while to do weekend trips to Rio to check out the garotas at Centaurus which, I would imagine, are still the hottest in Rio.[/QUOTE]I'm going to keep it 100. I ain't found no girls I likes for years in Centaurus-all plastic Barbie looking and overpriced. Been there 3 times in my life found 2 decent when I first visited rio. Steer clear. Total gringo mousetrap and too Eurocentric but to each his own. For 845 that's a lot of exotic chicks in Centro for 5 sessions.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2145493]Centaurus, Friday night.

I've noticed that many on this site loves to bash Centaurus but I consider the Centaurus girls to be generally better looking than their counterparts at MC. I would rate their looks as 8/10.

What I didn't like was the vibe, I can't really put words on what it really was. I also suspect that they padded my bill.

The session was great thought and the girl was a smoking hot Carioca morena.

When I arrived I paid 160 R for entrance, before going to the room I paid 460 R for the girl and 225 R for the drinks as I was leaving.

So I ended up paying 845 reais in total.

Monte Carlo, Thursday night.

I liked it, my bill ended up being just 580 R for a 40 minute session, three caperinhas and a vodka com red bull.

I would rate the girls by their looks in general to be 7/10. I suspect that I ended up paying less than I should've.

Another great session with a loira this time.

Mabs.

I went to Mabs on Thursday and Friday, clearly it's nothing compared to the two termas mentioned above but I did manage to find a GDP from Minas Gerais that I liked and did an all night with for 200 reais.

A great session and she didn't try to rob me or hustle me.

Overall I saw more girls that I wouldn't fuck for free and less than a handful that I would even consider to do.

Pestana.

Went there on two nights, Thursday & Friday, and didn't see anything that resembled a working girl.[/QUOTE]Great price for the Mabs all nighter-good job! How many teeth did she have? LOL jokes aside you can find diamonds there amongst a lot of mud.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2145763]I'm going to keep it 100. I ain't found no girls I likes for years in Centaurus-all plastic Barbie looking and overpriced. Been there 3 times in my life found 2 decent when I first visited rio. Steer clear. Total gringo mousetrap and too Eurocentric but to each his own. For 845 that's a lot of exotic chicks in Centro for 5 sessions.[/QUOTE]Just out of curiosity, where would you have gone after 7 pm on a Monday or Tuesday?

I've got Solarium, 4× 4, Barbarella and Dolce Vita on my radar for places to check out but am open for any suggestions as long as it doesn't put me in a position where my safety is compromised.

One thing that I've disliked with MC and Centaurus is that you feel like you are in the spotlight all the time. In Spain I can go to the clubs and just relax with a drink and go home later if I didn't really feel like going to the room with any girl.

Here it would just feel weird to do the same, it's mostly because of there being too few men to women-ratio.

The Mabs girl didn't have any teeth, they are just in the way when it comes to giving head.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2145763]I'm going to keep it 100. I ain't found no girls I likes for years in Centaurus-all plastic Barbie looking and overpriced. Been there 3 times in my life found 2 decent when I first visited rio. Steer clear. Total gringo mousetrap and too Eurocentric but to each his own. For 845 that's a lot of exotic chicks in Centro for 5 sessions.[/QUOTE]Ok, things must have changed since 2007. Back then Centaurus definitely had the hottest girls followed by Luomo then Solarium then MC then 4 X4 in my opinion. I must admit though that I am a bit Eurocentric in my tastes so might be a bit biased there. However, must repeat that it is totally understandable that things could have changed and that the pecking order may have been toppled. Luomo is no longer around of course.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2145763]I'm going to keep it 100. I ain't found no girls I likes for years in Centaurus-all plastic Barbie looking and overpriced. Been there 3 times in my life found 2 decent when I first visited rio. Steer clear. Total gringo mousetrap and too Eurocentric but to each his own. For 845 that's a lot of exotic chicks in Centro for 5 sessions.[/QUOTE]Amazing how some people just don't get it. On second thought, not so amazing after all.

Centaurus is not for you, cheap Gringo who does the same girl in Centro that sweaty working-class Brazilians do and who has already been with 10 guys by the time you see her. By setting a high price, they limit their clients to Canadian boy singers and Japanese businessmen from Sao Paulo who can afford the prices. If you want to complain about something, complain about the lame facilities, the drunk Brazilians who sing along with the singer or the less than attractive girl who corners you at your locker when you first arrive. But, don't complain about a business model that is not unlike American country clubs that discourage the wrong members from joining by having high membership fees.

The girls are a shared resource and if the price is high enough, they are not shared as often. Many guys I know from the Middle East, Europe and Russia only go to the termas for that reason. You don't see me ranting about Villa Mimosa and that I can't understand how guys can do it in 15 minutes standing up because the unchanged sheets are filthy with a woman who sees 20 guys from the favelas, with limited access to quality health care, a day. If Centaurus is not for you. Don't go. I used to see a girl there and pay out of respect because she spent a lot of time with me and never charged me. As for girl's trying to charge drinks (and food) to your number, it happens all the time. Used to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] me off that I would order food and drinks for her and the vultures (not even her friends) would descend to take just one bite. So, add that to the list of things about the place that pisses me off. But, I do understand the pricing.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2145881]Just out of curiosity, where would you have gone after 7 pm on a Monday or Tuesday?

I've got Solarium, 4 4, Barbarella and Dolce Vita on my radar for places to check out but am open for any suggestions as long as it doesn't put me in a position where my safety is compromised.

One thing that I've disliked with MC and Centaurus is that you feel like you are in the spotlight all the time. In Spain I can go to the clubs and just relax with a drink and go home later if I didn't really feel like going to the room with any girl.

Here it would just feel weird to do the same, it's mostly because of there being too few men to women-ratio.

The Mabs girl didn't have any teeth, they are just in the way when it comes to giving head.[/QUOTE]Mosaic is open from 9 pm to 6 AM, the club is safe but the area is not safe that's why it is better to take a taxi to go there. 4 by 4 is open from 11 am to 3 am. Cancun is open from 3 pm to 12 am, T65 is open from 2 pm to 12 am. 502 is a third terma that opens at 2 pm and closes at 12 am. Terma 210 is open from 5 pm to 12 am.

My best place in Rio to get laid is 4 by4, It is very easy to get vibes from girls. The rooms are as big as those of Centaurus, MC and Solarium.

I advise you against going to trash clubs, it is often dick fest, the ratio of men and women is not well proportioned. Unless you like fucking with your shoes on and stay out of bed when fucking in any position just because beds are smelly and dirty and looking over your shoulder all the time at the risk of getting robbed. In that case trash clubs are for you.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2145990]Amazing how some people just don't get it. On second thought, not so amazing after all.

Centaurus is not for you, cheap Gringo who does the same girl in Centro that sweaty working-class Brazilians do and who has already been with 10 guys by the time you see her. By setting a high price, they limit their clients to Canadian boy singers and Japanese businessmen from Sao Paulo who can afford the prices. If you want to complain about something, complain about the lame facilities, the drunk Brazilians who sing along with the singer or the less than attractive girl who corners you at your locker when you first arrive. But, don't complain about a business model that is not unlike American country clubs that discourage the wrong members from joining by having high membership fees.

The girls are a shared resource and if the price is high enough, they are not shared as often. Many guys I know from the Middle East, Europe and Russia only go to the termas for that reason. You don't see me ranting about Villa Mimosa and that I can't understand how guys can do it in 15 minutes standing up because the unchanged sheets are filthy with a woman who sees 20 guys from the favelas, with limited access to quality health care, a day. If Centaurus is not for you. Don't go. I used to see a girl there and pay out of respect because she spent a lot of time with me and never charged me. As for girl's trying to charge drinks (and food) to your number, it happens all the time. Used to me off that I would order food and drinks for her and the vultures (not even her friends) would descend to take just one bite. So, add that to the list of things about the place that pisses me off. But, I do understand the pricing.[/QUOTE]We guys mongering in Centro are fucking poor and cheap that's why we go to centro. Trash clubs and Villa Mimosa fucking suck. Centaurus fucking sucks too. So better to stay at our apartment, watch people walking by and cars driving by and jack off watching birds flying.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2146022]Mosaic is open from 9 pm to 6 AM, the club is safe but the area is not safe that's why it is better to take a taxi to go there. 4 by 4 is open from 11 am to 3 am. Cancun is open from 3 pm to 12 am, T65 is open from 2 pm to 12 am. 502 is a third terma that opens at 2 pm and closes at 12 am. Terma 210 is open from 5 pm to 12 am.

My best place in Rio to get laid is 4 by4, It is very easy to get vibes from girls. The rooms are as big as those of Centaurus, MC and Solarium.

I advise you against going to trash clubs, it is often dick fest, the ratio of men and women is not well proportioned. Unless you like fucking with your shoes on and stay out of bed when fucking in any position just because beds are smelly and dirty and looking over your shoulder all the time at the risk of getting robbed. In that case trash clubs are for you.[/QUOTE]I meant terma 110 instead of 210, it's another fucking trash place.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2145763]I'm going to keep it 100. I ain't found no girls I likes for years in Centaurus-all plastic Barbie looking and overpriced. Been there 3 times in my life found 2 decent when I first visited rio. Steer clear. Total gringo mousetrap and too Eurocentric but to each his own. For 845 that's a lot of exotic chicks in Centro for 5 sessions.[/QUOTE]What about men liking girls whiter? Not really into exotic chicks, I prefer Eurocentric but No No No to mousetrap.

Let me point out a few things. I can go to a tier 2 terma in centro and find a hotter girl than for hour who hasn't been taken at all that night because the Brazilians are too cheap-just want a beer and an ass grab. The service has been better, wilder and more intense than Centaurus and 650 reais cheaper an hour. Going to Cent is plain lazy if you know better and I wouldn't set foot there ever again as anyone with any wider experience of Rio should agree to. Those places are rip off joints and don't have the hottest girls by Rio standards at all. Matter fact I've seen better girls in vila mimosa than there and taken numbers and brought them to the crib or motel for 150/200 for hours and the girls have been more down to earth, more appreciative and more humble and intense in general but to each his own. Give 600 reais to the homeless and I'll show you hotter girls for 200 than at Centaurus and btw this is comin from “a cheap gringo” who in his green days spent 1800 there first year I came on a birthday dupla and 15 drinks but after that it’s been so poor and a mouse trap.Avoid and pm me for the real Rio.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2146165]Let me point out a few things. I can go to a tier 2 terma in centro and find a hotter girl than for hour who hasn't been taken at all that night because the Brazilians are too cheap-just want a beer and an ass grab. The service has been better, wilder and more intense than Centaurus and 650 reais cheaper an hour. Going to Cent is plain lazy if you know better and I wouldn't set foot there ever again as anyone with any wider experience of Rio should agree to. Those places are rip off joints and don't have the hottest girls by Rio standards at all. Matter fact I've seen better girls in vila mimosa than there and taken numbers and brought them to the crib or motel for 150/200 for hours and the girls have been more down to earth, more appreciative and more humble and intense in general but to each his own. Give 600 reais to the homeless and I'll show you hotter girls for 200 than at Centaurus and btw this is comin from a cheap gringo who in his green days spent 1800 there first year I came on a birthday dupla and 15 drinks but after that its been so poor and a mouse trap.Avoid and pm me for the real Rio.[/QUOTE]Just to get the facts right:

The price for entrance + 40 minutes in Centaurus is 620 reais. The other 225 reais was for drinks.

I easily found more than five girls that I considered to be better looking than anyone I saw in MC the day before.

Obviously we don't share the same taste in women since you don't like European looking women. To me Centaurus being "eurocentric" isn't a bad thing.

Does all the fun shut down in Rio during Holy Week? Looking to make a last minute quick trip! I usually hit the Termas at night and the clinicas during the day. Occasionally I may grab a straggler near Mabs.

Thanks in advance!

As is stated ad nauseum beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Outside of the US I have always found that the more expensive the place the better it is for me. Now it may be that I may very well see a hotter provider or two in a cheaper place than a more expensive one but GENERALLY a more expensive establishment will have better looking girls and will ALWAYS have better facilities. However, money is a perennial factor; I would rather hobby in FKKs in Germany rather than Sosua in the Dominican Republic. However, if I could not afford to monger in Germany then I would have just stuck to the DR. Similarly, if I were a poor resident of Rio there is no way I would patronize Centaurus, I would visit VM instead. I am in Sao Paulo now and have been going to the clinicas, I have not entered Scandallo or Bomboa because they are simply above my means although I have plans of paying the entrance fee and feasting on the eye candy before leaving Brazil.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2146298]Just to get the facts right:

The price for entrance + 40 minutes in Centaurus is 620 reais. The other 225 reais was for drinks.

I easily found more than five girls that I considered to be better looking than anyone I saw in MC the day before.

Obviously we don't share the same taste in women since you don't like European looking women. To me Centaurus being "eurocentric" isn't a bad thing.[/QUOTE]Just stick to termas or fly over to Sao Paulo if you are only into European looking women, in cheap places like vila mimosa and trash clubs, there are only black girls.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2146472]As is stated ad nauseum beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Outside of the US I have always found that the more expensive the place the better it is for me. Now it may be that I may very well see a hotter provider or two in a cheaper place than a more expensive one but GENERALLY a more expensive establishment will have better looking girls and will ALWAYS have better facilities. However, money is a perennial factor; I would rather hobby in FKKs in Germany rather than Sosua in the Dominican Republic. However, if I could not afford to monger in Germany then I would have just stuck to the DR. Similarly, if I were a poor resident of Rio there is no way I would patronize Centaurus, I would visit VM instead. I am in Sao Paulo now and have been going to the clinicas, I have not entered Scandallo or Bomboa because they are simply above my means although I have plans of paying the entrance fee and feasting on the eye candy before leaving Brazil.[/QUOTE]You can still choose Eastern Europe and Russia over Dominican Republic. FKK is not as expensive as Centaurus. Sex is not as good as Brazilians girls living in Brazilian or Russian girls living in Russia.

I've been to Germany FKK, Dominican Republic, Columbia, Philippines, and just got back from Thailand but the main place I want to visit I've avoided because I constantly hear that it's just not safe there. Is this true? Can anyone give me advice regarding safety. Is it safe to go to termas solo? BTW, I don't speak the language.

MM.

[QUOTE=YourBoyRoc;2146533]I've been to Germany FKK, Dominican Republic, Columbia, Philippines, and just got back from Thailand but the main place I want to visit I've avoided because I constantly hear that it's just not safe there. Is this true? Can anyone give me advice regarding safety. Is it safe to go to termas solo? BTW, I don't speak the language.

MM.[/QUOTE]I've been to 57 countries and shit can happen anywhere. Brazil is without a doubt one my favorites. Use common sense and don't go where you shouldn't go. I do speak the language so that helps but I would say you are fine going to a terma solo. Probably one of the safer places you could go.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2146519]You can still choose Eastern Europe and Russia over Dominican Republic. FKK is not as expensive as Centaurus. Sex is not as good as Brazilians girls living in Brazilian or Russian girls living in Russia.[/QUOTE]Sosua in the Dominican Republic is the cheapest sex on the planet. I choose Brazil and Germany over the DR because I can afford it.

[QUOTE=YourBoyRoc;2146533]I've been to Germany FKK, Dominican Republic, Columbia, Philippines, and just got back from Thailand but the main place I want to visit I've avoided because I constantly hear that it's just not safe there. Is this true? Can anyone give me advice regarding safety. Is it safe to go to termas solo? BTW, I don't speak the language.

MM.[/QUOTE]I had the same fear but I've had no security problems and I am going solo and a obvious gringo.

Just the other day I walked from Copacabana to Jardim Botanico without any problems.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2146793]Sosua in the Dominican Republic is the cheapest sex on the planet. I choose Brazil and Germany over the DR because I can afford it.[/QUOTE]I don't know when the last time you were in Sosua, but it is far from the place with the cheapest sex. The other day a buddy posted a picture of a chick and said she wanted $90 for 1 hour there. The cheapest paid sex that I have had is Calle 18 in Ecuador at $6 and Santa Fe in Colombia at $8. And I should add Vila Mimosa in Rio for a little over $6 back when it was 25 reais and you could get almost 4 reais for 1 USD. I also routinely give chicks in Thailand $30 for all night. Chick came last night at 1 am and I took her to work today at 1 pm. That ain't happening in Sosua no more.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2146805]I don't know when the last time you were in Sosua, but it is far from the place with the cheapest sex. The other day a buddy posted a picture of a chick and said she wanted $90 for 1 hour there. The cheapest paid sex that I have had is Calle 18 in Ecuador at $6 and Santa Fe in Colombia at $8. And I should add Vila Mimosa in Rio for a little over $6 back when it was 25 reais and you could get almost 4 reais for 1 USD. I also routinely give chicks in Thailand $30 for all night. Chick came last night at 1 am and I took her to work today at 1 pm. That ain't happening in Sosua no more.[/QUOTE]The cheapest places to fuck girls are Bangladesh, India and Some countries in Africa, for example Kenya. [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1083-Prices[/URL].

[QUOTE=Turgid;2145973]Ok, things must have changed since 2007. Back then Centaurus definitely had the hottest girls followed by Luomo then Solarium then MC then 4 X 4 in my opinion. I must admit though that I am a bit Eurocentric in my tastes so might be a bit biased there.[/QUOTE]I know the Rio scene mid-2000's and would've placed 4 x 4 right after Centaurus. The sheer numbers at 4 x 4 always meant that I would find a handful of girls perfect for me. Blondes, brunettes and the occasional redhead. My tastes probably lean toward Eurocentric, but I like some pop in that ass.

I haven't been to Rio in awhile, but I get the impression the terma scene has been very volatile. I don't know if Centaurus has re-established its consistent dominance with hot girls. MC and Solarium were always day by day. 4 x 4 seems to have less variety. Posters mention big asses and tats.

Regardless, I think any newbie visiting Rio needs to go to Centro and check out 4 x 4 for the sheer numbers and the fun vibe. I've spent hours there just hanging out and just happy to get a phone number or two for later at the apartment.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2146165]Let me point out a few things. I can go to a tier 2 terma in centro and find a hotter girl than for hour who hasn't been taken at all that night because the Brazilians are too cheap-just want a beer and an ass grab. The service has been better, wilder and more intense than Centaurus and 650 reais cheaper an hour. Going to Cent is plain lazy if you know better and I wouldn't set foot there ever again as anyone with any wider experience of Rio should agree to. Those places are rip off joints and don't have the hottest girls by Rio standards at all. Matter fact I've seen better girls in vila mimosa than there and taken numbers and brought them to the crib or motel for 150/200 for hours and the girls have been more down to earth, more appreciative and more humble and intense in general but to each his own. Give 600 reais to the homeless and I'll show you hotter girls for 200 than at Centaurus and btw this is comin from a cheap gringo who in his green days spent 1800 there first year I came on a birthday dupla and 15 drinks but after that its been so poor and a mouse trap.Avoid and pm me for the real Rio.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry, but I too am one who must beg to differ. The first terma I ever went to in Rio was Centaurus. And the first girl I ever had there was a smoking hot morena with a 10 body and a 9 face. Kissing on me like I was her man back from Afghanistan! And a good fuck too! My all-time Rio favorite turned out to be the Centaurus girl in the first attached pic. And one of the wildest times I've had ever anywhere ever was with the girl in the second pic. Do these two look like "Barbies" to anybody? It's been a while and line-ups do change, but I've always found Centaurus to have enough diversity to suit my needs. But then, I like the white girls! Solarium has more of the rep for being a place for "Eurocentric" looking blondes, and rightly so. And I like!

You're one of the guys always pushing the "trash" clubs. Well, a monger like me is not interested in dropping a bunch of money for a plane ticket and a decent hotel in a faraway land only to find myself fucking in a funky, stinky room standing up with my shoes and socks on! But, I would never tell anybody else not to go to "trash" clubs or to skip Vila Mimosa all together. As far as I'm concerned, it's all the "real Rio", and guys should go out and experience as much as they have the time, interest, and energy for. And then from there, they can figure out what works best for them, and stick to that. Like Turgid, I have found that the more expensive places have a stronger "critical mass" of the hottest girls according to my tastes (yes, a diamond can be found anywhere). And they definitely always have the better, cleaner facilities, which means a hell of a lot to me in my calculus of where to go.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2146860]I know the Rio scene mid-2000's and would've placed 4 x 4 right after Centaurus. The sheer numbers at 4 x 4 always meant that I would find a handful of girls perfect for me. Blondes, brunettes and the occasional redhead. My tastes probably lean toward Eurocentric, but I like some pop in that ass.[/QUOTE]How's this Brazilian redhead for some "pop" in that ass? LOLOLOL! Courtesy of a past visit to Monte Carlo. Nice, tight butt hole too! Yes sir!

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2146860]I know the Rio scene mid-2000's and would've placed 4 x 4 right after Centaurus. The sheer numbers at 4 x 4 always meant that I would find a handful of girls perfect for me. Blondes, brunettes and the occasional redhead. My tastes probably lean toward Eurocentric, but I like some pop in that ass.

I haven't been to Rio in awhile, but I get the impression the terma scene has been very volatile. I don't know if Centaurus has re-established its consistent dominance with hot girls. MC and Solarium were always day by day. 4 x 4 seems to have less variety. Posters mention big asses and tats.

Regardless, I think any newbie visiting Rio needs to go to Centro and check out 4 x 4 for the sheer numbers and the fun vibe. I've spent hours there just hanging out and just happy to get a phone number or two for later at the apartment.[/QUOTE]4 by 4 is the best terma in Rio, I had been there about 40 times on my last trip to Rio. The vibes are better in 4 by 4 than that of any terma.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2146854]The cheapest places to fuck girls are Bangladesh, India and Some countries in Africa, for example Kenya. [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1083-Prices[/URL].[/QUOTE]Reminds me of the old cliche "Cheap thing no good and good thing no cheap".

[QUOTE=TheCane;2146874]How's this Brazilian redhead for some "pop" in that ass? LOLOLOL! Courtesy of a past visit to Monte Carlo. Nice, tight butt hole too! Yes sir![/QUOTE]The Cane, that is exactly what I'm looking for both with your Monte Carlo redhead and Centaurus morena. Here's some nice bundas that I will share. The first girl was a curvy morena from Monte Carlo.

The second girl was a Terrazzo Atlantica hotty who was a sex machine. At TA, she bragged that she was the best fuck. She was 18 (I checked her ID) and she exhausted me. Who doesn't love a teenager with goals?

The last girl was a very pretty off-duty, Centaurus girl. She looked of Mediterranean descent and had the loveliest, perky be's along with a perfect hourglass figure. She looks slimmer in the photo than she actually was. I met her at a cafe. She drank with me and my friends at the cafe. She then drank with us and the other girls at our apartment building. She was totally chill. I think she decided she could hang out with me and spare herself the trip home and back the next day. I paid something slightly less than Centaurus prices.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2146854]The cheapest places to fuck girls are Bangladesh, India and Some countries in Africa, for example Kenya. [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1083-Prices[/URL].[/QUOTE]I think Kenya and some other parts of Africa could be intriguing. I find black women attractive and I bet African women would take really good care of a Western man.

Some balanced perspectives. I have only been to Centaurus four times in the 11 years I have been going to Rio the most recent September 2017. While I don't particularly like the high price or the overly aggressive approach of the chicks, I have never been disappointed and that barrier to entry does count on the chicks mileage. It has fallen off in terms of having the hottest (there were girls that would never have been there in the past), I think Solarium took that title in 2017. Then again this stuff is dynamic and changes month to month. 4 x4 has been the most consistent in terms of quality and quantity. Monte Carlo can be hit or miss true, but you can find something or go home. The key is to not limit yourself to one terma or scene and go see for yourself. For longest I heard Solarium only had brancas. What a load of BS I found some deep chocolate and caramel dimes in there this year. Termas, massage spots, trash, streetwalker or VM are individual preferences. I take comfort that at least with a terma someone is doing a superficial health check of that vagina! Cost alone should not be a deal breaker. In 2016 I went to Scandallo (Sao Paulo) and unbeknownst to me at that time got with the future 2017 Miss Bumbum. Now I don't need to ever go back how can I top that.

[QUOTE=Safado69;2146993]Some balanced perspectives. I have only been to Centaurus four times in the 11 years I have been going to Rio the most recent September 2017. While I don't particularly like the high price or the overly aggressive approach of the chicks, I have never been disappointed and that barrier to entry does count on the chicks mileage. It has fallen off in terms of having the hottest (there were girls that would never have been there in the past), I think Solarium took that title in 2017. Then again this stuff is dynamic and changes month to month. 4 x4 has been the most consistent in terms of quality and quantity. Monte Carlo can be hit or miss true, but you can find something or go home. The key is to not limit yourself to one terma or scene and go see for yourself. For longest I heard Solarium only had brancas. What a load of BS I found some deep chocolate and caramel dimes in there this year. Termas, massage spots, trash, streetwalker or VM are individual preferences. I take comfort that at least with a terma someone is doing a superficial health check of that vagina! Cost alone should not be a deal breaker. In 2016 I went to Scandallo (Sao Paulo) and unbeknownst to me at that time got with the future 2017 Miss Bumbum. Now I don't need to ever go back how can I top that.[/QUOTE]If you're referring to Rosie Oliveira Miss BumBum 2017, she is gorgeous head to toe.

In your Solarium photo, the girl on the left has a perfect Eurocentric ass and fine, fine legs. Was she as pretty on the front side as the back side? The girl on the right is fine too.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2147007]If you're referring to Rosie Oliveira Miss BumBum 2017, she is gorgeous head to toe.

In your Solarium photo, the girl on the left has a perfect Eurocentric ass and fine, fine legs. Was she as pretty on the front side as the back side? The girl on the right is fine too.[/QUOTE]Yes Rosie Oliveira or Yara! Not a fan of her body now but she was awesome before the pre contest look. Sometimes it pays to treat yourself. The girl on the left is at Centaurus now and her pic is below.

Why are all the pictures so tiny? Yu can barely see anything. Is it a setting that you must select when adding pics? Or am I just too used to facebook and whatsapp where you can expand and see the fotos?

[QUOTE=Bravo;2147069]Why are all the pictures so tiny? Yu can barely see anything. Is it a setting that you must select when adding pics? Or am I just too used to facebook and whatsapp where you can expand and see the fotos?[/QUOTE]Sorry about that. User error.

I went to three prives / brothels in Copacabana, and the winner, the place to go at 6-7 pm a Tuesday in Copacabana is Delirio Oriental.

Copa 583 sucked, Eden was OK and Delirio great. In my opinion Delirio has a better line up than MC and Solarium.

I don't know if the line up is different earlier during the day or not.

Later I went to Solarium, it's 395 + a 110 entrance which was all consumable. Solarium was crowded when I arrived, I saw some hotties but overall I would rate it as 7.5 out of 10.

I'm also impressed by the management of Solarium, they are on Facebook, have a lot of promotions and is actually the cheapest of the termas I visited.

At the exit they gave me a receipt and I then noticed that I had been charged for a cerveja I didn't order. As I had free consumtion up to 110 it didn't effect me and I could tell that the girl in the reception got upset over the fact someone's clearly taking advantage of the system.

I took a cab to Barbarella, they just waived me in without paying any entrance fee, the place was full of waiters in suits and they used a flashlight to show me were I was supposed to be seated. I'm not sure if the entrance fee was waived or if they were going to hit me with it later as a unpleasant surprise. Anyways, I decided to leave as it felt as a rip-off joint. I'm not saying that it is, but I left.

I didn't do any session as I am not feeling well, really terrible timing.

My big regret is that I skipped visiting 4×4.

Went to Enjoy yesterday. The third girl that was presented was a very lovely mulatta. In another country a face and body like that would portend a bad attitude and a poor session; and indeed her greeting of me was cold and I had to ask her to repeat her name. Chose her before I saw the full lineup for fear of her being picked by either of the other two blokes who were there; my luck's like that. She was very young, no older than 22 in my estimation. She's the type of girl I used to fantasize about when I was a teenager with the prettiest face you'd see on a provider.

In the room her disrobing revealed a body I would wank over in the US. Be+ cups but totally firm and a wonderfully shaped derriere. On the bed, immediate DFK for several minutes was followed by BBBJ and DATY. In DATY I had to force my tongue into her vagina, it was so tight and I had some well founded trepidations about FS because I'm not small.

On with the cap and onto FS. Try as I may I could not enter. She was a real trooper and did not shirk from doing her best to facilitate entry. After several minutes I was beginning to flag and began to despair of actual coitus. Removed the condom and requested BBBJ followed by DATY then some DFK got me fully charged again, on with the cover and retrieved my KY which fortunately I always carried with me. Applied copious amounts of lube to myself and in her. I actually still had some difficulty entering but after persistence got the head in in doggy and the sensation got me firmer so as to get me further inside. Eventually got a rhythm going but the tightness together with the vision of that perfect ass and beautiful body made me feel like I was about to come. I did not want to pull out as I feared difficulty in re-entering so I came in much shorter time than I would have liked. Not the best of sessions.

With more time on the clock I asked for a massage. The reason why I am mentioning the massage at all is because she gave me one of the best massages I have ever got from a provider, she knew exactly where to apply pressure. The fact that she was professionally trained was confirmed when I asked her afterwards. This is one girl I would definitely like to repeat. I took some photos of her which I intend to post here together with others at a later date. She received the first tip I have given this trip although I found she spent waaay too much time on her phone during non-sex intervals. She spoke not a lick of English so taking her contact info would be useless. Somehow I doubt I will see her again as she's the type of girl who some Brazilian bloke will quickly shack up with or sponsor.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2146956]Reminds me of the old cliche "Cheap thing no good and good thing no cheap".[/QUOTE]I am fucking cheap on tip, taxi and hotel. Subway to centro is very good and fast. I only tip few people in Brazil, Most hotels suck even when it is 5 star, there is a big difference between a Brazilian service and Japanese service.

I've been to every terma on my last trip to Rio de Janeiro. I spent most of my time in 4 by 4 because I got better vibes, I found stunners from 4 by 4 that also work in other Termas.

There are many stunners working in Centaurus, I don't really like the atmosphere out there. I met a girl that was very boring, I met her again in 4 by 4, she was very different, she was more animated and wilder it is as if her personality changed, she had a sweat temper and was more patient.

I've never seen any white stunner from termas working in trash clubs or Vila Mimosa. I sessioned with a tall skinny white girl with natural blond hair and green eyes in my fifth week in Rio de Janeiro, she is 5 feet 11 inches and have European features. She is German Brazilian from Florianopolis, she moved back to her city. You will never find that kind of girl in any trash club, prive or Vila Mimosa.

During my last day in Rio de Janeiro, there was a girl I noticed, her name is Keiza, tall and white. She is Mediterranean looking with hazel eyes. With good butt shape. I did not session with her for fear of missing my flight to Sao Paulo.

In Sao Paulo I ve only been to Clubs, I ve never tried out any clinicas. This is maybe because I don't like prives in Rio de Janeiro.

I saw more Brazilians than Gringos in termas, I speak Portuguese and often hit termas. Termas are not gringo traps but clubs and Mabs are gringo traps that's why you don't see any Brazilian out there. The only club I see some Brazilians is Kalabria. Most of them go there just to pick some numbers and grab some ass for free.

Conclusion: Paying too expensive is also not good unless you get what you want. For example, sessioning in Terma 81 is more expensive than 502, the rooms, facilities and quality of girl are better in 502 than in 81, I don't know why they call it Terma81. To me it looks like a fucking trash club. It is as dirty as Club13.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2146956]Reminds me of the old cliche "Cheap thing no good and good thing no cheap".[/QUOTE]There are attractive girls in every race, but I have never been interested in mongering in Asia and Africa because my preference goes toward white European and Mediterranean women followed by Eurasian women That's why I also like to travel to Russian Far East even though Mongering over there is not as good as in Brazil.

I prefer Asian and Black stunners over White hags, I have already sessioned with a few blacks and Indian looking girls in Brazil.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2146985]I think Kenya and some other parts of Africa could be intriguing. I find black women attractive and I bet African women would take really good care of a Western man.[/QUOTE]Not better than Brazilian women.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2147334]Conclusion: Paying too expensive is also not good unless you get what you want. For example, sessioning in Terma 81 is more expensive than 502, the rooms, facilities and quality of girl are better in 502 than in 81, I don't know why they call it Terma81. To me it looks like a fucking trash club. It is as dirty as Club13.[/QUOTE]That is not correct. Terma 81 is 192 for an hour. 502 is 180-190. No appreciable difference in price. Also no appreciable difference in girls. Only seen 3 fuckable girls in 502 in January and none this Monday. Two of the three were with guys all the time I was there but never sessioned with the guys they were talking to. The other, less attractive one, went for a session before I could decide to do her. 81 had a nice blonde one in January that I didn't do because of apparent lack of interest on her part, and a tall mulatta that I sessioned with twice, with good performance on her part, although she and the club cheated me on the time the second session. Went on this Monday and Wednesday; totally dead on Monday, semi-dead on Wednesday (maybe 5 girls total).

Speaking of dead clubs, went to MV 30 about 10 PM after 81:5 girls and 5 customers, including me. Girls no better than what you can get at the prives for about half the price (1 hour at MV 30 is 290 real). Morgue atmosphere. Don't know how they survive. 15 real entrada, 15 real consumacao (although the cashier didn't mention the entrada part when she gave me the rubber entrance bracelet). 30 real wasted. Don't waste your reals and time at this club.

Went to 119 Alfandega after MV 30. Better looking girls and more action than either 81 or MV 30. Immediately upon arrival I was drawn to Rafaella, a very pretty 25 year old dirty blonde hair girl. She came over to me and in 5 minutes we were heading to the room, although because it was closing time, we could only do a 20-minute session. Very GFE session but too short. Will go back for her on Friday.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2146472]As is stated ad nauseum beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Outside of the US I have always found that the more expensive the place the better it is for me. Now it may be that I may very well see a hotter provider or two in a cheaper place than a more expensive one but GENERALLY a more expensive establishment will have better looking girls and will ALWAYS have better facilities. However, money is a perennial factor; I would rather hobby in FKKs in Germany rather than Sosua in the Dominican Republic. However, if I could not afford to monger in Germany then I would have just stuck to the DR. Similarly, if I were a poor resident of Rio there is no way I would patronize Centaurus, I would visit VM instead. I am in Sao Paulo now and have been going to the clinicas, I have not entered Scandallo or Bomboa because they are simply above my means although I have plans of paying the entrance fee and feasting on the eye candy before leaving Brazil.[/QUOTE]Very honest and very funny too!

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2146298]Just to get the facts right:

The price for entrance + 40 minutes in Centaurus is 620 reais. The other 225 reais was for drinks.

I easily found more than five girls that I considered to be better looking than anyone I saw in MC the day before.

Obviously we don't share the same taste in women since you don't like European looking women. To me Centaurus being "eurocentric" isn't a bad thing.[/QUOTE]Remember what you drank? I am going to Centaurus in 2 weeks, but I might not. Too expennsive.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2147266]Went to Enjoy yesterday. The third girl that was presented was a very lovely mulatta. In another country a face and body like that would portend a bad attitude and a poor session; and indeed her greeting of me was cold and I had to ask her to repeat her name. Chose her before I saw the full lineup for fear of her being picked by either of the other two blokes who were there; my luck's like that. She was very young, no older than 22 in my estimation. She's the type of girl I used to fantasize about when I was a teenager with the prettiest face you'd see on a provider.

In the room her disrobing revealed a body I would wank over in the US. Be+ cups but totally firm and a wonderfully shaped derriere. On the bed, immediate DFK for several minutes was followed by BBBJ and DATY. In DATY I had to force my tongue into her vagina, it was so tight and I had some well founded trepidations about FS because I'm not small.

On with the cap and onto FS. Try as I may I could not enter. She was a real trooper and did not shirk from doing her best to facilitate entry. After several minutes I was beginning to flag and began to despair of actual coitus. Removed the condom and requested BBBJ followed by DATY then some DFK got me fully charged again, on with the cover and retrieved my KY which fortunately I always carried with me. Applied copious amounts of lube to myself and in her. I actually still had some difficulty entering but after persistence got the head in in doggy and the sensation got me firmer so as to get me further inside. Eventually got a rhythm going but the tightness together with the vision of that perfect ass and beautiful body made me feel like I was about to come. I did not want to pull out as I feared difficulty in re-entering so I came in much shorter time than I would have liked. Not the best of sessions.

With more time on the clock I asked for a massage. The reason why I am mentioning the massage at all is because she gave me one of the best massages I have ever got from a provider, she knew exactly where to apply pressure. The fact that she was professionally trained was confirmed when I asked her afterwards. This is one girl I would definitely like to repeat. I took some photos of her which I intend to post here together with others at a later date. She received the first tip I have given this trip although I found she spent waaay too much time on her phone during non-sex intervals. She spoke not a lick of English so taking her contact info would be useless. Somehow I doubt I will see her again as she's the type of girl who some Brazilian bloke will quickly shack up with or sponsor.[/QUOTE]Sorry guys, I mistakenly posted this here where it should have been posted in the SP thread.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2147593]Sorry guys, I mistakenly posted this here where it should have been posted in the SP thread.[/QUOTE]I also made a mistake about my previous post #18143. That post was intended for Wyats.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2147379]That is not correct. Terma 81 is 192 for an hour. 502 is 180-190. No appreciable difference in price. Also no appreciable difference in girls. Only seen 3 fuckable girls in 502 in January and none this Monday. Two of the three were with guys all the time I was there but never sessioned with the guys they were talking to. The other, less attractive one, went for a session before I could decide to do her. 81 had a nice blonde one in January that I didn't do because of apparent lack of interest on her part, and a tall mulatta that I sessioned with twice, with good performance on her part, although she and the club cheated me on the time the second session. Went on this Monday and Wednesday; totally dead on Monday, semi-dead on Wednesday (maybe 5 girls total).

Speaking of dead clubs, went to MV 30 about 10 PM after 81:5 girls and 5 customers, including me. Girls no better than what you can get at the prives for about half the price (1 hour at MV 30 is 290 real). Morgue atmosphere. Don't know how they survive. 15 real entrada, 15 real consumacao (although the cashier didn't mention the entrada part when she gave me the rubber entrance bracelet). 30 real wasted. Don't waste your reals and time at this club.

Went to 119 Alfandega after MV 30. Better looking girls and more action than either 81 or MV 30. Immediately upon arrival I was drawn to Rafaella, a very pretty 25 year old dirty blonde hair girl. She came over to me and in 5 minutes we were heading to the room, although because it was closing time, we could only do a 20-minute session. Very GFE session but too short. Will go back for her on Friday.[/QUOTE]I prefer 502 over 81, The rooms are way better than those of 81, I've never been interested in fucking a girl standing up with my socks, shoes and clothes on because the bed is dirty and smelly with unchanged sheets in which many guys cummed. Their rooms are fucking dark, you can't see the girl you fuck. When I fucked there it is as if I was in an oven, burning like a roast chicken, It was unbearable, I sweat like a guy running a marathon, it was impossible to get hard, I said to myself I would die stifled if I stayed longer, even for free I won't fuck in such a situation. It is impossible to have a fucking shower after fuck, their bathroom is shared and only has unchanged towels.

I agree with you on MV30, I only like rooms and facilities in MV30 but most girls working in there are transvestite looking. I had visited MV30 5 times on my last trip, I had only fucked once out of 5 times, the girl I fucked was a bottle blonde. Your chances of getting a doable girl in MV30 is very minimal. That's why I often hit high end termas instead of low end termas.

Every Monday is dead in 502, that's why there is no entry fee. I haven' seen many doable girls in this place but I prefer it over 81. I like fucking comfortably and have a good shower, cleanliness is important to me. Dirt is a thing I most hate. Dirt and smells break my desire to fuck.

Trash clubs and Vila Mimosa are only good to visit, those are zoos with many circus freaks. I only had a few sessions in 210 (trash club). But I spent most of my time in termas.

Now I am fucking stuck in the land of the rising sun where I work myself to death, I can't wait to make it back to Brazil and take my mind off things, I will be staying for six months.

Fucking bored out here, the only girl I fuck for now is a white American, I am getting tired of her pussy, I fucking miss Brazilian girls. The only Brazilian hookers working in Japan are hags, they are as ugly as the girls found in VM. Even Russian hookers are not doable. Only Japanese hookers are doable out here. I envy you guys living in the land of putas.

Hi guys,

Just doing a night stop in Rio.

Any good and safe clubs in Rio which are open on Sunday?

Thanks for the help.

[QUOTE=HighFlyer80;2147941]Hi guys,

Just doing a night stop in Rio.

Any good and safe clubs in Rio which are open on Sunday?

Thanks for the help.[/QUOTE]Mosaic, but you need to go by taxi, the place is safe not the area. You don't take the girls out you only session inside. It is next to Vila Mimosa.

If you are more interested in bringing girls to your place, Just go to Mabs, it is a bit dead on Sundays, most of them are ugly and dirty, just be careful of some girls, just act smartly. Avoid any girls along Avenida Atlantica. Some are not girls and will try to pick your pockets unless you want to be relieved of your wallet. There are some stunner in some clubs around but their prices are exorbitant. (Casablanca, Barbarella, Cicciolina). I've never brought any streetwalker or any working girl in Mabs and clubs around, to my place.

The only girls I brought to my place are some girls working in Termas and some regulars. I am a terma man.

[QUOTE=HighFlyer80;2147941]Hi guys,

Just doing a night stop in Rio.

Any good and safe clubs in Rio which are open on Sunday?

Thanks for the help.[/QUOTE]If you want a regular night club, Rei De Bacalhau is good on a Sunday. Alot of females there!

Been coming to Brazil for years and had only ever tried São Paulo (which I love and will be there next week). So for the first time out wanted to keep it simple and close, easy decision to try Centaurus. I tend to go to the larger more expensive places first. I only come down once or twice a year so I am willing to spend more for simplicity. Took a 5-min Uber ride from my hotel and was there. I played dumb upon entry and didn't tell anyone I spoke Portuguese. They have all of the prices laid out paper for Gringos. You get a deal if you pay cash, so I paid cash, I believe it was $150'ish for entry and the total cost for 40-min with a girl is around $620 I think. I got my robe and was helped by a girl who was far to beefy for my taste but was very nice. She told me about the place and gave me the quick tour. I thought it would be bigger. It is actually quite small. I was also surprised to see only 2 other guys in there when I entered at 11:15 pm. I instantly felt lots of eyes on me, which ended up being ok because I really had a variety to choose from. Was approached st the bar by a couple girls who I politely blew off, not really my taste. I would guess there were 15-20 girls when I walked in. Good variety. I was then approached by Monica (I think). A tall red head who talks the talk. Her red hair caught my eye and she was cute. Decent face, nice teeth, long and thin legs, fake boobs but not ridiculous. She kind of too my over for a while and her English was pretty good. Others were catching my eye as I was talking to her but I knew it was a done deal. I just dragged it out. She offered a friend to join us and she was one of the more stand out chicks there. Very fit with a big butt, black hair. Definitely an eye catcher. She would have been my next choice but I didn't want to pay for two.

This is where the sales pitch came I. I could pay for the standard room, no shower, or I could upgrade to a larger room with shower and toilet. I upgarded. Interestingly, after I paid, I was told the larger rooms were all occupied so we could go smaller with no refund or wait. Of course I opted to wait. I was in no rush and I apparently paid a non refundable room rate, so I became quite patient. We talked for about 15-min and then it was ready. Not a bad room; A / see, shower, toilet, large clean bed, fresh towels, mirrors, and some kid of kinky bend over stool type things that we didn't use. Not bad.

The session itself was amazing. Probably better than most of mine in São Paulo for overall service, but not all. She used every minute of our hour: DFK and lots of touching, OWO for what seemed like 30-min or so (and it was good), she let me touch her a lot, which I love, and then onto the deed. Missionary, cowgirl, reverse cowgirl and I finally let loose. A little chat and cooldown, shower, and that was it. Very sexy and GFE girl. I was hesitant at first because she was selling hard but in the end it was a great choice. We seemed to click and that makes it even better. She didn't seem fake and was up front about age, kids, etc. Though I would have guessed she was younger and her body it quite tight for a mom. Overall, great experience. Expensive, yes, but I will do it again. There were hotties there but there were also some not so attractive girls, a little too hefty for my liking. Enjoy guys. There is something for everyone.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2146874]How's this Brazilian redhead for some "pop" in that ass? LOLOLOL! Courtesy of a past visit to Monte Carlo. Nice, tight butt hole too! Yes sir![/QUOTE]Natural red with pinkie?

I can only imagine how you shafted her!

IT.

I'm back for the month of April and it will get ugly -hit me for patrols.

I will be in about 10 days in Rio, in the past they were problem with ATM in Gig Airport like credit card cloanage do you know or do you have recent experience like that? Because I will not have any reals to get a taxi just euro and rates for change in Airport are very bad.

Many thanks.

[QUOTE=Frenchieboy;2148345]I will be in about 10 days in Rio, in the past they were problem with ATM in Gig Airport like credit card cloanage do you know or do you have recent experience like that? Because I will not have any reals to get a taxi just euro and rates for change in Airport are very bad.

Many thanks.[/QUOTE]You take 50 Euros, go to the exchange and maybe you are down a couple Euros vs the best exchange rate.

Or, you exchange with one of the exchange guys who hang around the airport. Or, you use Uber.

What you don't do, is after flying 5700 miles, worry about a couple of Euros.

[QUOTE=Frenchieboy;2148345]I will be in about 10 days in Rio, in the past they were problem with ATM in Gig Airport like credit card cloanage do you know or do you have recent experience like that? Because I will not have any reals to get a taxi just euro and rates for change in Airport are very bad.

Many thanks.[/QUOTE]There is no cloning in any ATM in Gig Airport. , I ve never had bad experience like that. Every time I touch down in Brazil I withdraw money from ATM. I just get the minimum amount of money just to pay my bus ride from the airport to Copacabana. There is no problem buying from the stores in the airport, using your card.

Having euros with you is better, it is more attractive to change in Brazil, you will get more Reais than you receive in France. You can still change few euros for reais in your home country. Just what you need.

[QUOTE=Troyster;2148269]......The session itself was amazing. Probably better than most of mine in So Paulo for overall service, but not all. She used every minute of our hour: DFK and lots of touching, OWO for what seemed like 30-min or so (and it was good), she let me touch her a lot, which I love, and then onto the deed. Missionary, cowgirl, reverse cowgirl and I finally let loose. A little chat and cooldown, shower, and that was it. Very sexy and GFE girl. I was hesitant at first because she was selling hard but in the end it was a great choice. We seemed to click and that makes it even better. She didn't seem fake and was up front about age, kids, etc. Though I would have guessed she was younger and her body it quite tight for a mom. Overall, great experience. Expensive, yes, but I will do it again. There were hotties there but there were also some not so attractive girls, a little too hefty for my liking. Enjoy guys. There is something for everyone.[/QUOTE]You really can't go wrong in Brazil.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2148177]If you want a regular night club, Rei De Bacalhau is good on a Sunday. Alot of females there![/QUOTE]Interesting name for a night club. King of Salted Cod.

I thought Rei do Bacalhau was more restaurant than club.

[QUOTE=Troyster;2148269]
This is where the sales pitch came I. I could pay for the standard room, no shower, or I could upgrade to a larger room with shower and toilet. I upgarded. Interestingly, after I paid, I was told the larger rooms were all occupied so we could go smaller with no refund or wait. Of course I opted to wait. I was in no rush and I apparently paid a non refundable room rate, so I became quite patient. We talked for about 15-min and then it was ready. Not a bad room; A / see, shower, toilet, large clean bed, fresh towels, mirrors, and some kid of kinky bend over stool type things that we didn't use. Not bad.[/QUOTE]Same old Centaurus. You pay for the larger room then they tell you there are no large rooms currently available.

It was always pay upfront before you even saw the girls. Some people over the years have said that they negotiated for a quick peak before paying for the session, but I was always told it was pay it all upfront non-refundable. I never was disappointed, but it's kind of good to have the flexibility to leave without a session. I've done that at 4 x4 and other clubs when I just want to chill with my buddies who are there to session.

Many thanks for Komo 753 and Exec Talent for advice.

Exec Talent for sure it is not a problem to change 50 euros after a so long trip!

[QUOTE=Frenchieboy;2148544]Many thanks for Komo 753 and Exec Talent for advice.

Exec Talent for sure it is not a problem to change 50 euros after a so long trip![/QUOTE]All decent options but you can also take one of the rip off taxis at the desk of arrivals using your credit cards, easy and simple just matters how you feel after a long flight.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2148517]Same old Centaurus. You pay for the larger room then they tell you there are no large rooms currently available.

It was always pay upfront before you even saw the girls. Some people over the years have said that they negotiated for a quick peak before paying for the session, but I was always told it was pay it all upfront non-refundable. I never was disappointed, but it's kind of good to have the flexibility to leave without a session. I've done that at 4 x4 and other clubs when I just want to chill with my buddies who are there to session.[/QUOTE]Man never pay for 40 minutes upfront at Centaurus. Its just something they do to gringos. Just refuse. I never paid untill I decided or not to take someone. Fcuk that. Thats a clip joint trick-they are as bad as Barbarellas with dirty tricks. They try to intimidate and act like its normal practise.I told em straight up hell no and id leave if that was the case...then they grumbled and didnt ask me again.Cheeky bastards.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2148403]There is no cloning in any ATM in Gig Airport.[/QUOTE]Yes, there have been problems with the ATM cards at the airport. Had my card compromised there. Took a week to get a new card mailed to the hotel. Good thing I had cash. Now, I have a second Schwab account and card as backup.

Use the ATM at GIG at your own risk.

[QUOTE=Frenchieboy;2148544]Many thanks for Komo 753 and Exec Talent for advice.

Exec Talent for sure it is not a problem to change 50 euros after a so long trip![/QUOTE]I tend to scan the best rate in uk and the rate I get is pretty much what I can get in copa or in cento at the exchange spots.

Uber or grab a yellow cab whos droppin someone off outside now that Galeao has switched international flights to Terminal 2 all the yellow cabs are outside and half the price of the ones inside the terminal who are fishing.

You also get a card from yellow cab drivers to only pay 50 reais back to galeao from zona sul etc.

Personally I do one of those 2.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2146326]Does all the fun shut down in Rio during Holy Week? Looking to make a last minute quick trip! I usually hit the Termas at night and the clinicas during the day. Occasionally I may grab a straggler near Mabs.

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Just wanted to post this question again. Hoping for a response this time!

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2148632]Just wanted to post this question again. Hoping for a response this time![/QUOTE]I think it is only closed on Friday, March 30 in Centro, but in Zona Sul I think they are open.

[QUOTE=LarryDavid;2148599]Yes, there have been problems with the ATM cards at the airport. Had my card compromised there. Took a week to get a new card mailed to the hotel. Good thing I had cash. Now, I have a second Schwab account and card as backup.

Use the ATM at GIG at your own risk.[/QUOTE]Bringing cash along is also a risk, all depends on your luck. Robbers are everywhere.

Personally, I ve never had problems with withdrawing money from any ATM in the airport. I use a pin with my credit card.

I prefer to bring cash with me to change it into reais. Because the rates are more attractive when you buy reais in Brazil.

The only time I got scammed was in Japan, I was insured. They did not clone my card, they used my card for many transactions. Cloning a card nowadays is not an easy thing and requires smartness.

Visited 4 x4 last Thursday about 9:15 PM after a few years absence. As Komo753 posted, the more expensive the venue, the higher percentage of white girls. This was certainly true at 4 x4: no black girls; one mulatta; two possible, lighter skinned mulattas; the rest all blonde and brunette white girls. I counted 35 during my stay, so there were probably 50 or so total, including those in rooms and other places. Surprisingly, a lot of the women were more mature than I expected, being on the wrong side of 25, if not 30. I only saw a half-dozen or so that I thought were pretty, but for some reason, most of those had no tits. Having had an 1. 5 hour bareback session in a prive some hours earlier I was not in any great hurry to pay 380 real to fuck them. There was one beautiful faced brunette with small be tits (at best) I would have tried to get it up for but she never showed any interest even when I was standing in front of her, and for the hour and a half that I was there, never saw her talk to any guy. There was a very pretty blonde (with tits) that I saw after I came back from the sauna and would have liked to fuck but she was busy with a guy and I did not want to wait for her to get free, as who knows how long the guy would have kept her dangling before going to the room, like the guy who was with a pretty, but chunky, blonde for over an hour, fondling her and talking to her, before they finally went to the room. It amazes me that guys are able to spend so much time with these girls before fucking. I can't imagine what I would talk to some strange girl about for so long.

Went on Friday back to 119 Alfandega. I may have oversold the place on my previous post. Maybe 3-4 girls fuckable, but Rafaela was the best in my estimation. Did two excellent, GFE, 40 minute sessions with her (real 100 each), interspersed with a visit to 210 Uruguyana (nothing of note there). The rooms at 119 are pretty shitty (no changing of sheets): do not walk on the floor in the room barefoot. The floor was so sticky (I don't even want to think about from what) that my sandals stuck to the floor, so I made sure that when the session was over I put my feet back in the sandals when I got off the bed.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2148882]I only saw a half-dozen or so that I thought were pretty, but for some reason, most of those had no tits.

It amazes me that guys are able to spend so much time with these girls before fucking. I can't imagine what I would talk to some strange girl about for so long.
[/QUOTE]For the most part, Brazilian women have smaller breasts, plastic surgery aside, than North American and European women. I don't know if there's science behind this observation, but there seems to be an inverse correlation between firm, round asses and breast size particularly in Brazil. If I find a pretty Brazilian girl with a nice ass and perky be size cups, I'm pretty happy.

As far as guys talking to the girls, there's two good reasons. First, if you make a connection you're more likely to have an intimate and intense session. Second, if you chat with a girl she's more likely to give you her number and make the effort to meet you in Zona Sul.

I find the girls at 4 x4 more chill than many of the other termas. With the exception of the rare superstar, it seems they are not obsessed with stacking up sessions one after the other.

You can't imagine what you would talk about. Haven't you ever talked to a "strange" young girl in a bar or club? It's the same deal even if in a termas it's a sure thing.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2148882]Visited 4 x4 last Thursday about 9:15 PM after a few years absence. As Komo753 posted, the more expensive the venue, the higher percentage of white girls. This was certainly true at 4 x4: no black girls; one mulatta; two possible, lighter skinned mulattas; the rest all blonde and brunette white girls. I counted 35 during my stay, so there were probably 50 or so total, including those in rooms and other places. Surprisingly, a lot of the women were more mature than I expected, being on the wrong side of 25, if not 30. I only saw a half-dozen or so that I thought were pretty, but for some reason, most of those had no tits. Having had an 1. 5 hour bareback session in a prive some hours earlier I was not in any great hurry to pay 380 real to fuck them. There was one beautiful faced brunette with small be tits (at best) I would have tried to get it up for but she never showed any interest even when I was standing in front of her, and for the hour and a half that I was there, never saw her talk to any guy. There was a very pretty blonde (with tits) that I saw after I came back from the sauna and would have liked to fuck but she was busy with a guy and I did not want to wait for her to get free, as who knows how long the guy would have kept her dangling before going to the room, like the guy who was with a pretty, but chunky, blonde for over an hour, fondling her and talking to her, before they finally went to the room. It amazes me that guys are able to spend so much time with these girls before fucking. I can't imagine what I would talk to some strange girl about for so long..[/QUOTE]I also spend one hour or more talking to girls before going up to the room. Since when has it been 380? It is not 370? There are different girls everyday unlike other termas. Girls have the freedom to work as they want. Thursdays and Fridays are busy. There are always more clients those days especially at night due to shows. Some girls are shy but that doesn't mean they are not interested. Just talk to them. I don't know if you speak Portuguese. Don't forget most girls are there for the same reason, (money). Unless you have no money, there is no reason for them not to be interested in you. That's just how they look but that doesn't mean they are.

Next time just try to go a bit earlier, the best time in 4 by 4 is between 5 pm and 7 pm. I always go at that time or earlier to choose the girl to chill with. I always stay few hours with the chosen girl and tell tall stories about myself. I just do as Brazilians do.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2148786]I think it is only closed on Friday, March 30 in Centro, but in Zona Sul I think they are open.[/QUOTE]Yes Centro termas were closed Good Friday. Friday and Saturday Zona sul termas were open.

Although slower should be no problem I remember the girls would try to link up outside because they needed cash to get their kids chocolate easter eggs. If you want something Sunday plan in advance.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2148882] It amazes me that guys are able to spend so much time with these girls before fucking. I can't imagine what I would talk to some strange girl about for so long.[/QUOTE]Man,

After you've been banging girls after every meal for a few days (or perhaps more often), you sometimes need a breather to recharge your batteries. I have spent 5-6 hours at 4 x 4 easily and it didn't seem like a stretch. As soon as I go in after getting a robe, I see one that I like. I usually can only resist for about 30 min before we're going up to a room. The kicker is, unlike most places, negotiations for services go very fast: price is set. They will do everything. After the first, you're immediately approached or flirted with by other girls because. They know you're a paying customer, and since you didn't leave, you will pay again for another girl. Rare is the day when I will just go back to back. The music is usually on point (if you like hip hop), the drinks are good, the food in the restaurant is good, and the women are beautiful. Between food and drinks, its easy to fill in the time. As well, you might want to see some of the other girls you missed that were occupied or in the walk in bar downstairs. Its a vibe man, you're either with it or you're not. I like the experience and have never been left thirsty after leaving 4 x 4. On the contrary, I've usually been disappointed that I didn't have the energy or money to fuck them all!

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2149018]For the most part, Brazilian women have smaller breasts, plastic surgery aside, than North American and European women. I don't know if there's science behind this observation, but there seems to be an inverse correlation between firm, round asses and breast size particularly in Brazil. If I find a pretty Brazilian girl with a nice ass and perky be size cups, I'm pretty happy.
g.[/QUOTE]I don't get it because they are Portuguese, Italians, German, Japanese, and black women. Maybe the Indian women are small breasted and it is a dominant gene? I think the emphasis is on the bunda in Brazil and girls are much more likely to inject silicone in their ass than augment their breasts? I can't see how or why the breasts in Brazil should be any smaller. I think it is choices.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2145307]You don't need to speak Portuguese to fuck prostitutes, unless you want some games with regulars and have more time to spend in Brazil, Learn Portuguese. Don't forget you always pay expensive for rooms and facilities in termas and not for girls. Every high end termas cater to high class Brazilians. So there is no trap. The only gringo traps in Rio are clubs in Copacabana, streetwalkers and Mabs full of hags and losers. Mabs is not a rip off, just avoid some girls and people around but if you like to see night actions, Mabs will be a good place to be. Talent is not really good out there.

Monday is not far off, just pack your stuff away and taste some Brazilian food on your first day in Rio and then walk over to Mabs to drink something at around 10 pm while watching some actions. After 12 AM just take a taxi to go back to your place if you don't live nearby. Just sleep well, 4 by4 opens from 11 AM to 3 AM. Just enjoy as many pussies as you can in any terma you hit. Time is more expensive than money. Your vacation is precious, don't go back to your home country regretfully.

Enjoy your visit to Rio de Janeiro.[/QUOTE]Thanks. My visit is in a few days now. I will post a report as a contribution to the forum.

I do plan to hit the main termas but have also been contacting a few girls from [URL]hotside.com.br[/URL] and riosexsite on whatsApp and using Google Translate to inquire. Rates are 300-350 per hour Reias. I am not worrying about the rates since I only have 5 days time to spend. I am generally looking at well reviewed girls on gpguia and gparena.

General question: Is it safe to have these girls over to my hotel or am I better off bringing Termas girls?

Also health related question: Is it true that Termas girls are more clean compared to the others?

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2149094]I don't get it because they are Portuguese, Italians, German, Japanese, and black women. Maybe the Indian women are small breasted and it is a dominant gene? I think the emphasis is on the bunda in Brazil and girls are much more likely to inject silicone in their ass than augment their breasts? I can't see how or why the breasts in Brazil should be any smaller. I think it is choices.[/QUOTE]Many girls are small breasted. Even Europeans and Japanese are small breasted. Many big breasted women are injected silicone. In Brazil there are girls with natural big breasts but they are fat or of other heritage. I haven't seen many big breasted European women in Europe, except for fat girls and girls of foreign heritage.

Indian is not a dominant gene like in mexico and other Latin countries.

I prefer girls skinnier and whiter with smaller tits.

[QUOTE=Safado69;2149071]Yes Centro termas were closed Good Friday. Friday and Saturday Zona sul termas were open.

Although slower should be no problem I remember the girls would try to link up outside because they needed cash to get their kids chocolate easter eggs. If you want something Sunday plan in advance.[/QUOTE]This is correct. Easter Sunday try and get a chick who got no kids or who is from out of state. I'm touching down on the Sunday but got the non pro meeting me at night in Copa after all their Easter activities so I can give her the gringo yolk- the egg nogg.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2149018]For the most part, Brazilian women have smaller breasts, plastic surgery aside, than North American and European women. I don't know if there's science behind this observation, but there seems to be an inverse correlation between firm, round asses and breast size particularly in Brazil. If I find a pretty Brazilian girl with a nice ass and perky be size cups, I'm pretty happy.

As far as guys talking to the girls, there's two good reasons. First, if you make a connection you're more likely to have an intimate and intense session. Second, if you chat with a girl she's more likely to give you her number and make the effort to meet you in Zona Sul.

I find the girls at 4 x4 more chill than many of the other termas. With the exception of the rare superstar, it seems they are not obsessed with stacking up sessions one after the other.

You can't imagine what you would talk about. Haven't you ever talked to a "strange" young girl in a bar or club? It's the same deal even if in a termas it's a sure thing.[/QUOTE]You misread my post. There were plenty of big-titted girls; it was just the younger, prettier ones that mostly had the small tits.

I doubt it takes an hour to make a connection: you either feel it pretty quick or there isn't any. From my experiences in prives and clinicas, how intimate and intense a session is usually depends on how well you prepare the girl with foreplay. Also, if it is a good session for her, she will likely give you her number if you want to see her again. My personal take is that the girls do not like to chat with and be groped by guys, who they would probably not even acknowledge outside the terma, and feign interest in the bullshit the guy is saying for an hour or more, but only do so to get a session. I think they would much prefer a short chat and then a session rather than have some guy drone on about his life for an hour or more, wasting time the girl could be using to get another customer, while they pretend to be fascinated by his stories.

Unlike a bar or a club, there is no need to bullshit a terma girl into fucking you with stories about how great you are, since that is why she is there. Further, given the 40-50 year age difference between me and the girls I would be interested in fucking in the terma, an equally wide gap in education and experience, different cultures and languages, I doubt that the girl and I would have any common interests other than my paying to have sex with her.

[QUOTE=Troyster;2148269]Been coming to Brazil for years and had only ever tried So Paulo (which I love and will be there next week). So for the first time out wanted to keep it simple and close, easy decision to try Centaurus. I tend to go to the larger more expensive places first. I only come down once or twice a year so I am willing to spend more for simplicity. Took a 5-min Uber ride from my hotel and was there. I played dumb upon entry and didn't tell anyone I spoke Portuguese. They have all of the prices laid out paper for Gringos. You get a deal if you pay cash, so I paid cash, I believe it was $150'ish for entry and the total cost for 40-min with a girl is around $620 I think. I got my robe and was helped by a girl who was far to beefy for my taste but was very nice. She told me about the place and gave me the quick tour. I thought it would be bigger. It is actually quite small. I was also surprised to see only 2 other guys in there when I entered at 11:15 pm. I instantly felt lots of eyes on me, which ended up being ok because I really had a variety to choose from. Was approached st the bar by a couple girls who I politely blew off, not really my taste. I would guess there were 15-20 girls when I walked in. Good variety. I was then approached by Monica (I think). A tall red head who talks the talk. Her red hair caught my eye and she was cute. Decent face, nice teeth, long and thin legs, fake boobs but not ridiculous. She kind of too my over for a while and her English was pretty good. Others were catching my eye as I was talking to her but I knew it was a done deal. I just dragged it out. She offered a friend to join us and she was one of the more stand out chicks there. Very fit with a big butt, black hair. Definitely an eye catcher. She would have been my next choice but I didn't want to pay for two.

This is where the sales pitch came I. I could pay for the standard room, no shower, or I could upgrade to a larger room with shower and toilet. I upgarded. Interestingly, after I paid, I was told the larger rooms were all occupied so we could go smaller with no refund or wait. Of course I opted to wait. I was in no rush and I apparently paid a non refundable room rate, so I became quite patient. We talked for about 15-min and then it was ready. Not a bad room; A / see, shower, toilet, large clean bed, fresh towels, mirrors, and some kid of kinky bend over stool type things that we didn't use. Not bad.

The session itself was amazing. Probably better than most of mine in So Paulo for overall service, but not all. She used every minute of our hour: DFK and lots of touching, OWO for what seemed like 30-min or so (and it was good), she let me touch her a lot, which I love, and then onto the deed. Missionary, cowgirl, reverse cowgirl and I finally let loose. A little chat and cooldown, shower, and that was it. Very sexy and GFE girl. I was hesitant at first because she was selling hard but in the end it was a great choice. We seemed to click and that makes it even better. She didn't seem fake and was up front about age, kids, etc. Though I would have guessed she was younger and her body it quite tight for a mom. Overall, great experience. Expensive, yes, but I will do it again. There were hotties there but there were also some not so attractive girls, a little too hefty for my liking. Enjoy guys. There is something for everyone.[/QUOTE]Wow, $150 just to get in. Crazy.

I still stand by my opinion that Brazilian women do not "naturally" have breasts as large as North American and European women. You can point to particular European countries and say the women don't have large breasts, but I'm speaking of Europe in general. I was actually surprised to get push back on this. I believe this was a widely shared view in 1998 (before the plastic surgery boom). It was definitely noted in the early sex forums on the internet. Plastic surgery has become so common in all walks of Brazilian life that I'm not sure those of you who started visiting Brazil this decade can totally appreciate the differences. Just pick-up an old Brazilian Playboy from the 70's /80's and compare it to the USA Playboy of that era.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2149391]Plastic surgery has become so common in all walks of Brazilian life that I'm not sure those of you who started visiting Brazil this decade can totally appreciate the differences. Just pick-up an old Brazilian Playboy from the 70's /80's and compare it to the USA Playboy of that era.[/QUOTE]The reason that means shit is because just because North Americans had an affinity for big tits in the 70's and 80's, does not mean that Brazilians did. And Playboy is going to put in its magazines what will sell locally.

I do agree with the rest of what you are saying though. Brazilians commonly have bigger lower bodies (hips and ass) and smaller upper bodies (tits). I would say it has something to do with the indigenous portion of their bloodline. When you look at National Geographic shows of the "hidden" indigenous population you never really see a woman with big tits. Damn near every woman that I know in Brazil talks about wanting to get some type of plastic surgery or has already had it if they could afford it.

I used to know a chick here in Thailand that wore like a 48K or some shit. She said that some lady used to bring her bras from Sweden because they don't sell them that big around here. If you want to see some big tittays go to the Dominican Republic.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2149391]I still stand by my opinion that Brazilian women do not "naturally" have breasts as large as North American and European women. You can point to particular European countries and say the women don't have large breasts, but I'm speaking of Europe in general. I was actually surprised to get push back on this. I believe this was a widely shared view in 1998 (before the plastic surgery boom). It was definitely noted in the early sex forums on the internet. Plastic surgery has become so common in all walks of Brazilian life that I'm not sure those of you who started visiting Brazil this decade can totally appreciate the differences. Just pick-up an old Brazilian Playboy from the 70's /80's and compare it to the USA Playboy of that era.[/QUOTE]Most Americans with big tits are either fat, unnatural or not of European descent. I have been to the USA and Europe, my country of origin is somewhere in Europe.

The most beautiful Europeans have small breasts (Russians and Eastern Europeans). The only countries in Europe I saw many chicks with large tits are the UK, Germany, Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary most of them are either fat pigs or not natural, I would say they have fat tits.

Plastic surgery has also become common in Western countries, I was born and had lived in Canada.

[QUOTE=Yamazaki77;2149179]Thanks. My visit is in a few days now. I will post a report as a contribution to the forum.

I do plan to hit the main termas but have also been contacting a few girls from [URL]hotside.com.br[/URL] and riosexsite on whatsApp and using Google Translate to inquire. Rates are 300-350 per hour Reias. I am not worrying about the rates since I only have 5 days time to spend. I am generally looking at well reviewed girls on gpguia and gparena.

General question: Is it safe to have these girls over to my hotel or am I better off bringing Termas girls?

Also health related question: Is it true that Termas girls are more clean compared to the others?[/QUOTE]Just stick to termas and fuck as many bitches as possible before flying back home. Don't waste your time on Hotside and riosexsite. Just pick girls' numbers in the termas to arrange a date. It is better to bring girls you have fucked with before. You just have one week in Rio de Janeiro, you are not here to look for a wife. Never say to any girl you only stay one week, just say you are in Rio de Janeiro for 1 or 2 months.

They are cleaner, for example, there is a doctor on the third floor in Cancun that carries out checks on the pussies of the girls from Cancun and girls from 4 by 4, they must see him every month.

[QUOTE=Rahsta;2149344]Wow, $150 just to get in. Crazy.[/QUOTE]Why would anyone pay for a girl they haven't seen yet? That's madness and coked up arrogance obo Centaurus. Just. Say. No. !LOL. For the entrance fee I'm bangin a beauty in Centro. 620 for 40 minutes🤦127997;8205;9792;65039;.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2149501]Why would anyone pay for a girl they haven't seen yet? That's madness and coked up arrogance obo Centaurus. Just. Say. No.[/QUOTE]I totally agree on that.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2149405]The reason that means shit is because just because North Americans had an affinity for big tits in the 70's and 80's, does not mean that Brazilians did. And Playboy is going to put in its magazines what will sell locally.[/QUOTE]None of this is science. All I know is USA Playboy Playmates have always had large breasts and the size didn't vary much from the 50's 60's 70's 80's and on. The girls got taller and thinner, but the breast size didn't change. I actually read this in an interesting article on the women of Playboy. On the flip side, Brazilian Playboy didn't feature busty Brazilian women on a regular basis until after 2000 when many of the models started to have plastic surgery.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2149600]None of this is science. All I know is USA Playboy Playmates have always had large breasts and the size didn't vary much from the 50's 60's 70's 80's and on. The girls got taller and thinner, but the breast size didn't change. I actually read this in an interesting article on the women of Playboy. On the flip side, Brazilian Playboy didn't feature busty Brazilian women on a regular basis until after 2000 when many of the models started to have plastic surgery.[/QUOTE]But you are trying to attribute what one company puts in a magazine in a particular location to what exists in society as a whole in that same location. Maybe Hugh Hefner did some marketing research back then and knew that American guys wanted to see some big titties, but Brazilians guys didn't. 10 years ago he did another study and now Brazilian guys want to see big tits in a magazine. Styles and tastes change; not necessarily because the physical characteristics of the people have changed.

At one time in the USA voluptuous models were the thing. So that is what you would find in magazines. Fast forward to today and skinny models are the thing, so that is what you will see in magazines. From your perspective there were no skinny women in the USA until the diet pill was invented then they all of a sudden they had some skinny chicks they could put in the magazines.

You are acting like they couldn't scrape up 10 chicks in Brazil with big ass titties out of a population of millions to put in a magazine until breast implants were invented. What I am telling you is that it was the tastes of the people (or moreso what advertisers were now telling them their tastes would be) that changed things and not the fact that tit implants are the rage when nobody had tits before. Women are going around getting tit implants because advertisers have told them if they don't have any tit implants then they are not shit. Meanwhile there are 18 million women in Brazil standing around that have always had big titties that don't see what the big deal is.

It is the same shit in the USA. There have always been plenty of chicks with big asses. But that was not in fashion. Now chicks that didn't have big asses are going around getting implants and what do you see in magazines now? A bunch of chicks with fake asses, eg. Kim Kardashian. Meanwhile the Brazil WyattEarp is writing on the Brazil ISG that American chicks didn't have big asses until everybody started going to get ass implants and now big asses are in every magazine that you open. LOL.

Breast size is science.
[URL]http://www.sciencedatabaseonline.org/ADB1/Scientific%20Article%20JOFHS.pdf[/URL]

No doubt that the average Brazilian women have smaller breast than European women. However, Brazil still has quite a decent share of peitudas in their female population.
I'm a fan of women with large natural breasts. When visiting privées in Brazil I know for certain that it's not easy to find women with really large natural tits and without kids. There are GPs with big tits, but those melonsized tits are rare among the GPs. My impression is that the percentage of peitudas in the Brazilian sex industry are fewer than the percentage of peitudas you see among regular girls in Brazil.

In Brazil I've been with more regular girls that were peitudas than with GP peitudas.

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[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2149501]Why would anyone pay for a girl they haven't seen yet? That's madness and coked up arrogance obo Centaurus. Just. Say. No. !LOL. For the entrance fee I'm bangin a beauty in Centro. 620 for 40 minutes🤦127997;8205;9792;65039;.[/QUOTE]Why? Because I know that after I pay, there is a load of smoking hot meninas upstairs, with the ratio of 15:1 in my favor. It's not madness or coked-up arrogance. It's mongering in a way I enjoy. I have the money and I spend it as I wish. Moreover, unlike most centro termas or clinicas, I can sit with my model-level girl for half an hour, feeling each other up and making out in a quiet corner before heading upstairs. I know beyond a shadow of doubt how our session will go before-hand. The bar tender remembers me and my drink. I don't have to pre-pay for an subsequent girl, I can settle up at the end. The joint is comfortable and it's walking distance from my beachfront hotel and a nice churrascaria. How is this a bad thing?

There is some serious talent in Centauas these days, reminding me of the mid 2000's maybe even better!

Today I'll head to centro to mix things up. I enjoy 4 x4 for different reasons than Centaurus. I'm looking forward to seeing some old friends, and then this weekend I'll head across the lagoon to another of my favorite termas. But that's my thing. There's a little of everything in this amazing city (except for sun. It's raining like fuck today). No need to cast aspersions on the way one monger chooses the way practice his hobby. I'm sure Jackson would agree. It's all good.

[QUOTE=Chezz;2150243]Why? Because I know that after I pay, there is a load of smoking hot meninas upstairs, with the ratio of 15:1 in my favor. It's not madness or coked-up arrogance. It's mongering in a way I enjoy. I have the money and I spend it as I wish. Moreover, unlike most centro termas or clinicas, I can sit with my model-level girl for half an hour, feeling each other up and making out in a quiet corner before heading upstairs. I know beyond a shadow of doubt how our session will go before-hand. The bar tender remembers me and my drink. I don't have to pre-pay for an subsequent girl, I can settle up at the end. The joint is comfortable and it's walking distance from my beachfront hotel and a nice churrascaria. How is this a bad thing?

There is some serious talent in Centauas these days, reminding me of the mid 2000's maybe even better!

Today I'll head to centro to mix things up. I enjoy 4 x4 for different reasons than Centaurus. I'm looking forward to seeing some old friends, and then this weekend I'll head across the lagoon to another of my favorite termas. But that's my thing. There's a little of everything in this amazing city (except for sun. It's raining like fuck today). No need to cast aspersions on the way one monger chooses the way practice his hobby. I'm sure Jackson would agree. It's all good.[/QUOTE]So what if you don't see anything you like that day? Your fcuked cause they aren't giving you nada back. Matter fact it's a way of forcing People to take someone regardless. But to each his own.

Hi Sperto,

I read the entire study with great interest jajajjaja. Figures 10 and 13 were particularly nice. Average cup size reported in Colombia was Dee whereas Dominican Republic was Bee. Perhaps the researchers need to widen their sample in DR because I have never seen so may big tits than in the DR. The reason American broads have such large tits is because they are too fucking fat! Viva la peitudas!

[QUOTE=Sperto;2149650]Breast size is science.
[URL]http://www.sciencedatabaseonline.org/ADB1/Scientific%20Article%20JOFHS.pdf[/URL]

No doubt that the average brazilian women have smaller breast than european women. However, Brazil still has quite a decent share of peitudas in their female population.
I'm a fan of women with large natural breasts. When visiting prives in Brazil I know for certain that it's not easy to find women with really large natural tits and without kids. There are GPs with big tits, but those melonsized tits are rare among the GPs. My impression is that the percentage of peitudas in the brazilian sex industry are fewer than the percentage of peitudas you see among regular girls in Brazil.

In Brazil I've been with more regular girls that were peitudas than with GP peitudas.

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[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2150252]So what if you don't see anything you like that day? Your fcuked cause they aren't giving you nada back. Matter fact it's a way of forcing People to take someone regardless. But to each his own.[/QUOTE]1. You're never forced to pay for the girl in advance, only the entry price. Nobody is forcing you to do anything. In fact, it's even printed on the entry card they show newcomers. They keep the entry price high for a reason, and I appreciate that business model.

2. In 13 years I've always found multiple girls that I've liked. Paying the full price in advance has never felt like a risk to me. But that's just me.

You can keep talking smack about Centaurus, but I think you're doing a disservice to newer board members who might appreciate a place like this. I consider it to be a great option if you can afford it and want to fuck a model quality chica. There's something for everyone in Rio, and this is just one option. The 2 girls I sessioned with last night we're easily in my top 10 of girls I've been with in Rio. And spending that 30 minutes, or so, with them before taking them to the room is something I appreciate, and something that isn't always available elsewhere.

Anyway, no harm, no foul. Take care.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2150252]So what if you don't see anything you like that day? Your fcuked cause they aren't giving you nada back. Matter fact it's a way of forcing People to take someone regardless. But to each his own.[/QUOTE]No one is forced to pay everything up front. I sure as hell didn't. This is starting to become ridiculous.

What Chezz wrote is what I would call a perfect holiday, and he is spot on regarding the extra time the girls spends with you over there.

[QUOTE=Chezz;2150282]1. You're never forced to pay for the girl in advance, only the entry price. Nobody is forcing you to do anything. In fact, it's even printed on the entry card they show newcomers. They keep the entry price high for a reason, and I appreciate that business model.

2. In 13 years I've always found multiple girls that I've liked. Paying the full price in advance has never felt like a risk to me. But that's just me.

You can keep talking smack about Centaurus, but I think you're doing a disservice to newer board members who might appreciate a place like this. I consider it to be a great option if you can afford it and want to fuck a model quality chica. There's something for everyone in Rio, and this is just one option. The 2 girls I sessioned with last night we're easily in my top 10 of girls I've been with in Rio. And spending that 30 minutes, or so, with them before taking them to the room is something I appreciate, and something that isn't always available elsewhere.

Anyway, no harm, no foul. Take care.[/QUOTE]Model quality to you ain't model quality to me. Most of the broads I saw in Centaurus and Mc were not Pretty or hot to me at all, plastic looking silicon vibe, pseudo European. FYI anyone can sit and make out with any girl at any terma cheap or expensive- everything is subjective. I personally find it a gringo mouse trap and business tax write off type spot for business men almost as bad as t65 which is Centro’s answer but can’t charge the same due to location.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2149501]Why would anyone pay for a girl they haven't seen yet? That's madness and coked up arrogance obo Centaurus. Just. Say. No. !LOL. For the entrance fee I'm bangin a beauty in Centro. 620 for 40 minutes🤦127997;8205;9792;65039;.[/QUOTE]I totally agree!!

But to each their own.

I'd rather hang w this sexy, carinhosa, 18 year old light skin negra for a weekend, for way less than the price of 40 min at Centaurus! LOL.

We all have our preferences though.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2150421]I totally agree!!

But to each their own.

I'd rather hang w this sexy, carinhosa, 18 year old light skin negra for a weekend, for way less than the price of 40 min at Centaurus! LOL.

We all have our preferences though.[/QUOTE]I know what you mean. Except that that chick is brown skin; or what is known as pecan tan. This chick is light skin! That is how we get the popular phrase among Black people, "Light, bright, and damn near white."

[QUOTE=Rahsta;2149344]Wow, $150 just to get in. Crazy.[/QUOTE]Greetings from Sao Paulo. I should have clarified but I assume you know I meant $150 Brazilian, not USD. I know, still expensive to some, but for someone like me who comes down once a year, not a bad deal IMO. And like has been explained, that is what you pay to get in. You could sit there for 2-hours, make out with 5 or 6 chicks, have some drinks, and leave. You might get "the look" on the way out, but non one is forcing you to stay. I spent about 30-minutes talking to girl I ended up with, I knew exactly what was on the menu and what I was getting, and I was totally down. Then you pay for the room and the girl. I don't think there is any way around that. Now, there is always a chance it will go south in the bedroom, but this one didn't, it was awesome. I could spend a few hours on the internet scouring the ads trying to find something I like, with good reviews, and real pics, but I simply don't want to do that sometimes. I have had very good luck with that in The Middle East, but Brazil makes it so easy. It was a 5-min Uber ride from my hotel and done. Easy as pie.

The other bonus in places like Sao Paulo is that your entry goes to food / drink, so you can do everything I mentioned above, and get a good meal included while you are scouting. The best of both worlds! Are places like Centaurus for everyone? Nope, but everyone should try it IMO. That is why this site is such a great resource. We can tell our stories, share advice, and take what we want. There is some incredible information here. Take it and use it. Have fun, try something new. Last night in Sao Paulo I had a "regular" come to my hotel. Tomorrow I will probably be at a Boate looking for something new. Or hell, maybe I will try an escort from the internet. Have a couple convos going on WhatsApp as we speak.

Happy hunting!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2149625]But you are trying to attribute what one company puts in a magazine in a particular location to what exists in society as a whole in that same location. Maybe Hugh Hefner did some marketing research back then and knew that American guys wanted to see some big titties, but Brazilians guys didn't. 10 years ago he did another study and now Brazilian guys want to see big tits in a magazine. Styles and tastes change; not necessarily because the physical characteristics of the people have changed.

Now chicks that didn't have big asses are going around getting implants and what do you see in magazines now? A bunch of chicks with fake asses, eg. Kim Kardashian. Meanwhile the Brazil WyattEarp is writing on the Brazil ISG that American chicks didn't have big asses until everybody started going to get ass implants and now big asses are in every magazine that you open. LOL.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't selectively take apart a forum post that admits "none of this is science". I thought it was interesting that based on anecdotal evidence (an observation if I may) that before the late 90's Brazilian Playboy models generally had bigger asses and smaller breasts than the USA Playboy. I'm not trying to do a doctorate thesis on why. Of course, magazine models aren't a random sampling of attractive local women. The editors certainly put their bias and objectives on the content.

What I will argue is that the models and celebrities in Brazilian Playboy have uniquely Brazilian asses. I don't find that ass anywhere in the world including the USA Kim Kardashian doesn't have a Brazilian ass. The thicker women in Playboy of the 50's /60's didn't have Brazilian asses. Sure you might be able to quote a few exceptional cases, but that ass is exactly what makes Brazilian women so special.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2150393]Model quality to you ain't model quality to me. Most of the broads I saw in Centaurus and Mc were not Pretty or hot to me at all, plastic looking silicon vibe, pseudo European. FYI anyone can sit and make out with any girl at any terma cheap or expensive- everything is subjective. I personally find it a gringo mouse trap and business tax write off type spot for business men almost as bad as t65 which is Centros answer but cant charge the same due to location.[/QUOTE]Boy, you've got a bug up your ass when it comes to Centaurus. Someone must have got you good. Why can't you just accept that there are people who enjoy it without slinging insults at those very people. You like Centro. YAY!! Good for you! I don't talk shit about Centro because, like tonight, I enjoy it. 4 x4 was as good as I've ever seen it. But for me, and a lot of other guys (and a bunch who PM'the me and are sick of you lording over this forum), Centauraus fills a valuable niche in the Rio scene. What does "pseudo European" even mean? You understand half the girls working in Europe aren't even from there, right?. I've mongered all around the world, and Centaurus is right up there with the best of them, in my opinion. Metellitsa in Moscow, Bomboa in San Paulo, you name it. It doesn't suit your tastes, fine. Stay away. I'm sure they're not sweating the loss of your valuable business. But for fuck sake man, give it a rest.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2150458]I know what you mean. Except that that chick is brown skin; or what is known as pecan tan. This chick is light skin! That is how we get the popular phrase among Black people, "Light, bright, and damn near white."[/QUOTE]I agree with you, it's just that she calls herself, to me "sua negra".

She looks more "pecan tan" to me too, but I just roll with it, LOL.

I've only done Centaurus a few times vs probably 100's for 4 X4, L'uomo (RIP), Monte Carlo, and Solarium. I can certainly afford it, but I just like to be judicious with my money. BUT, the few times I have gone to Centaurus, I thought the quality was above the other places. And there were plenty of darker girls available.

As far as making out / feeling out the chicas before going to the cabina, you can do that in any of the big termas. It's the reason termas are such a fantastic and unique thing. I love Colombia, Cuba, DR, Thailand, etc, but the terma experience of Rio is unique. Even in the FKKs, you can't sample the girl so thoroughly before making a decision.

[QUOTE=Combo;2150556]I've only done Centaurus a few times vs probably 100's for 4 X4, L'uomo (RIP), Monte Carlo, and Solarium. I can certainly afford it, but I just like to be judicious with my money. BUT, the few times I have gone to Centaurus, I thought the quality was above the other places. And there were plenty of darker girls available.

As far as making out / feeling out the chicas before going to the cabina, you can do that in any of the big termas. It's the reason termas are such a fantastic and unique thing. I love Colombia, Cuba, DR, Thailand, etc, but the terma experience of Rio is unique. Even in the FKKs, you can't sample the girl so thoroughly before making a decision.[/QUOTE]The Brazilian girls know how to make the complete sales pitch! Grabbing and jerking on a monger's "paynus" and shit underneath his robe! "Paynus". That's what a hot Brazilian girl called my "penis". I like your "paynus" she said LOLOLOL! Then they get over there to Germany or Spain or wherever and stop acting Brazilian (I. E. , not making out before going to the room and not taking it in the butt)! WTF? Full-fledged western society spoils it all! Can't have no fun!

Expensive clubs like Centaurus will always have patrons even if the girls are no better than other clubs. There are people who like to believe that they are in an exclusive environment and would not venture into Centro because they wish to avoid rubbing shoulders with 'the lower classes'. It happens in every country. As for me my budget does not allow me to make too many visits to the exclusive clubs but in Brazil that is not a problem. For me Brazil is by far the world's best mongering destination. I sessioned a garota in a clinica recently and she gave me the best DFK I have ever got from a provider, it was so good I spent a considerable amount of time just DFKing her. Then I realized that time was going fast so I grabbed the condom and put it on my fully erect member for FS. She was protesting in Portuguese. I was not too sure what she was saying but eventually realized she wanted to do BJ. Being already hard and time going I just motioned for her to give me a quick CBJ but she indicated that she did not like doing BJ with the condom so I pulled it out and she went down on me as if she was getting more pleasure from the act than I was. I notice that many providers in Brazil get extreme enjoyment from doing BBBJ which is not the case in other countries. You just gotta love Brazil.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2150704]Expensive clubs like Centaurus will always have patrons even if the girls are no better than other clubs. There are people who like to believe that they are in an exclusive environment and would not venture into Centro because they wish to avoid rubbing shoulders with 'the lower classes'. I notice that many providers in Brazil get extreme enjoyment from doing BBBJ which is not the case in other countries. You just gotta love Brazil.[/QUOTE]This is certainly not the reason why I like to go to Centaurus. I go because I have found some smoking hot girls there (brancas and morenas) who do some very, very, very nasty things! The place isn't perfect, but it adds in some of the variety I like. I also love the Centro clubs, especially Quatro por Quatro (4 x 4). If it's a Tier 1, then I'm there! And you're right about Brazilian girls and BJs. Lotta times it's like they like it more than you the recipient does! Other thing I noticed is how much Brazilian girls like to suck on my nuts. I never really thought about that until I started going to Brazil a lot, and they would do that. And I liked it! Brazilian girls and Polish girls. They like to suck my nuts! Weird! Oh, and the Thai girls? They liked to suck on my tits / chest LOL!

I didn't want my post to become a "Centaurus vs Centro" thing; like you had to pick sides, one or the other. All clubs, whether we're talking about the more expensive termas, the Centro termas, clinicas or Villa Mimosa have their good qualities and patrons who swear by them. What I don't like is when one terma is singled out as being a suckers bet. Or that you'the have to be an idiot or on crack to go there.

I'll add that back about 5 years ago I was getting tired of Centaurus. I saw a lot of the same girls and the vibe was bad. Then L'oumo and Help closed (dark days in Rio) and I took a long break from Brazil, spending my time instead at the FKKs, Moscow and Barcelona. Upon my return to Rio, I found Centaurus to be revitalized with a good supply of new girls and a customer service vibe I found, at times, to be lacking in the past. Not now. The girls are much less pushy, the new front desk clerk was very friendly and even the 40 minute rooms were a nice size. I also appreciate that the music isn't so loud my eardrums are blown the fuck out by the end of the evening. It's nice to have a conversation without yelling in someone's ear just to be heard. And yes, Turgid, and with all due respect and in my opinion, the girls at Centaurus we're a level above 4 x4, only because I'm not a big fan of tats, silicone, etc. There's fewer girls of that variety at Centaurus. But it's all subjective and there's no way to reach a consensus the topic. It's whatever floats your boat.

It finally stopped raining, so time to hit the beach. Cheers!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2150704]Expensive clubs like Centaurus will always have patrons even if the girls are no better than other clubs. There are people who like to believe that they are in an exclusive environment and would not venture into Centro because they wish to avoid rubbing shoulders with 'the lower classes'. It happens in every country. As for me my budget does not allow me to make too many visits to the exclusive clubs but in Brazil that is not a problem. For me Brazil is by far the world's best mongering destination. I sessioned a garota in a clinica recently and she gave me the best DFK I have ever got from a provider, it was so good I spent a considerable amount of time just DFKing her. Then I realized that time was going fast so I grabbed the condom and put it on my fully erect member for FS. She was protesting in Portuguese. I was not too sure what she was saying but eventually realized she wanted to do BJ. Being already hard and time going I just motioned for her to give me a quick CBJ but she indicated that she did not like doing BJ with the condom so I pulled it out and she went down on me as if she was getting more pleasure from the act than I was. I notice that many providers in Brazil get extreme enjoyment from doing BBBJ which is not the case in other countries. You just gotta love Brazil.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Balboa;2150421]I totally agree!!

But to each their own.

I'd rather hang w this sexy, carinhosa, 18 year old light skin negra for a weekend, for way less than the price of 40 min at Centaurus! LOL.

We all have our preferences though.[/QUOTE]She is too dark for my liking but thanks for sharing. You are very lucky to fuck cheaper, beautiful white women are not found in cheap places. If I had your taste, I would fuck cheaper than I fuck at present.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2150513]I wouldn't selectively take apart a forum post that admits "none of this is science". I thought it was interesting that based on anecdotal evidence (an observation if I may) that before the late 90's Brazilian Playboy models generally had bigger asses and smaller breasts than the USA Playboy. I'm not trying to do a doctorate thesis on why. Of course, magazine models aren't a random sampling of attractive local women. The editors certainly put their bias and objectives on the content.

What I will argue is that the models and celebrities in Brazilian Playboy have uniquely Brazilian asses. I don't find that ass anywhere in the world including the USA Kim Kardashian doesn't have a Brazilian ass. The thicker women in Playboy of the 50's /60's didn't have Brazilian asses. Sure you might be able to quote a few exceptional cases, but that ass is exactly what makes Brazilian women so special.[/QUOTE]I am French speaking Canadian. Does that mean I am of Indigenous heritage too? The European gene is dominant in Brazil. I used to go to Porto Alegre before visiting Rio de Janeiro in the world cup for the first time. European heritage is more dominant in the south of Brazil and black and indigenous heritage dominate the north of Brazil. Brazil is a multicultural country, there are girls for every taste.

The girls on the picture looks Indigenous or Asian.

[QUOTE=Chezz;2150741]I didn't want my post to become a "Centaurus vs Centro" thing; like you had to pick sides, one or the other. All clubs, whether we're talking about the more expensive termas, the Centro termas, clinicas or Villa Mimosa have their good qualities and patrons who swear by them. What I don't like is when one terma is singled out as being a suckers bet. Or that you'the have to be an idiot or on crack to go there.

I'll add that back about 5 years ago I was getting tired of Centaurus. I saw a lot of the same girls and the vibe was bad. Then L'oumo and Help closed (dark days in Rio) and I took a long break from Brazil, spending my time instead at the FKKs, Moscow and Barcelona. Upon my return to Rio, I found Centaurus to be revitalized with a good supply of new girls and a customer service vibe I found, at times, to be lacking in the past. Not now. The girls are much less pushy, the new front desk clerk was very friendly and even the 40 minute rooms were a nice size. I also appreciate that the music isn't so loud my eardrums are blown the fuck out by the end of the evening. It's nice to have a conversation without yelling in someone's ear just to be heard. And yes, Turgid, and with all due respect and in my opinion, the girls at Centaurus we're a level above 4 x4, only because I'm not a big fan of tats, silicone, etc. There's fewer girls of that variety at Centaurus. But it's all subjective and there's no way to reach a consensus the topic. It's whatever floats your boat.

It finally stopped raining, so time to hit the beach. Cheers![/QUOTE]I prefer 4 by 4 over other termas but I also go to the termas in zona sul. I prefer 4 by4 because I get better vibes from girls and there is a bigger selection of girls and there are different girls everyday. That's only my preference, I agree there are stunners in Centaurus like every high end terma. Many girls don't have silicone in 4 by 4.

The quality of girl is the same in every terma, only the location makes the price more expensive.

Now it is time for me to be told off by these japs.

[QUOTE=Chezz;2150741]I didn't want my post to become a "Centaurus vs Centro" thing; like you had to pick sides, one or the other. All clubs, whether we're talking about the more expensive termas, the Centro termas, clinicas or Villa Mimosa have their good qualities and patrons who swear by them. What I don't like is when one terma is singled out as being a suckers bet. Or that you'the have to be an idiot or on crack to go there.

I'll add that back about 5 years ago I was getting tired of Centaurus. I saw a lot of the same girls and the vibe was bad. Then L'oumo and Help closed (dark days in Rio) and I took a long break from Brazil, spending my time instead at the FKKs, Moscow and Barcelona. Upon my return to Rio, I found Centaurus to be revitalized with a good supply of new girls and a customer service vibe I found, at times, to be lacking in the past. Not now. The girls are much less pushy, the new front desk clerk was very friendly and even the 40 minute rooms were a nice size. I also appreciate that the music isn't so loud my eardrums are blown the fuck out by the end of the evening. It's nice to have a conversation without yelling in someone's ear just to be heard. And yes, Turgid, and with all due respect and in my opinion, the girls at Centaurus we're a level above 4 x4, only because I'm not a big fan of tats, silicone, etc. There's fewer girls of that variety at Centaurus. But it's all subjective and there's no way to reach a consensus the topic. It's whatever floats your boat.

It finally stopped raining, so time to hit the beach. Cheers![/QUOTE]Fair play! If Centaurus has upped its service and chica quality of course it can attract good talent! I was basing it on my last 3 visits as a guide for some gringos but last one was a year ago. They needed to up their game again-I guess all the tier 1 get lazy but it's a crisis so even they have to get their finger out-now if someone could save my favourite tier 1 spot Mc where I popped my terma cherry I'll venture back for old times sake with king Cartman in April!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2150709]...... Other thing I noticed is how much Brazilian girls like to suck on my nuts. I never really thought about that until I started going to Brazil a lot, and they would do that. And I liked it! Brazilian girls and Polish girls. They like to suck my nuts!....[/QUOTE]Damn skippy, and it can be painful, they don't seem to realize that they're sensitive; I continually have to keep telling them to go easy.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2150868]Fair play! If Centaurus has upped its service and chica quality of course it can attract good talent! I was basing it on my last 3 visits as a guide for some gringos but last one was a year ago. They needed to up their game again-I guess all the tier 1 get lazy but it's a crisis so even they have to get their finger out-now if someone could save my favourite tier 1 spot Mc where I popped my terma cherry I'll venture back for old times sake with king Cartman in April![/QUOTE]Enjoy your next trip to Rio de Janeiro in April. Unfortunately I am fucking stuck in the land of the rising sun at that time.

Centaurus sucks but there are some stunners out there. But they take people for fools. Not only gringos even Brazilians. The staff in every terma ask for tips both from Gringos and Brazilians. But there are always stunners in Termas, The atmosphere is more important in a terma. The aim of our mongering experience is to enjoy as much as possible and not to stick to one place like many gringos do. I think everybody must hit every terma before judging. I know some people that prefer Cancun and some solarium, Personally I prefer 4 by 4. I know you hit every puteiro in Rio de Janeiro though our tastes are very different. You are a good monger; you are down with everything, you are up for every puteiro. From the cheapest to the most expensive.

Many girls have silicone implants in Centaurus.

It was nice to meet you on my last trip.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2151165]Enjoy your next trip to Rio de Janeiro in April. Unfortunately I am fucking stuck in the land of the rising sun at that time.

Centaurus sucks but there are some stunners out there. But they take people for fools. Not only gringos even Brazilians. The staff in every terma ask for tips both from Gringos and Brazilians. But there are always stunners in Termas, The atmosphere is more important in a terma. The aim of our mongering experience is to enjoy as much as possible and not to stick to one place like many gringos do. I think everybody must hit every terma before judging. I know some people that prefer Cancun and some solarium, Personally I prefer 4 by 4. I know you hit every puteiro in Rio de Janeiro though our tastes are very different. You are a good monger; you are down with everything, you are up for every puteiro. From the cheapest to the most expensive.

Many girls have silicone implants in Centaurus.

It was nice to meet you on my last trip.[/QUOTE]Likewise my brother!! The silicone was everywhere in Centaurus and put me off as it's not my thing. I love the natural look so the negras in rio and mulattas have the edge but I love a natural white girl too once in a while. In Rio I tend to see them more in ipanema and on ipa beach and in more upscale places. Gdps aren't so white in Rio but that's also to do with poverty and class led city I can't wait though. Come down man fake an injury at work and lose your voice and fly down.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2151165]Enjoy your next trip to Rio de Janeiro in April. Unfortunately I am fucking stuck in the land of the rising sun at that time.

Centaurus sucks but there are some stunners out there. But they take people for fools. Not only gringos even Brazilians. The staff in every terma ask for tips both from Gringos and Brazilians. But there are always stunners in Termas, The atmosphere is more important in a terma. The aim of our mongering experience is to enjoy as much as possible and not to stick to one place like many gringos do. I think everybody must hit every terma before judging. I know some people that prefer Cancun and some solarium, Personally I prefer 4 by 4. I know you hit every puteiro in Rio de Janeiro though our tastes are very different. You are a good monger; you are down with everything, you are up for every puteiro. From the cheapest to the most expensive.

Many girls have silicone implants in Centaurus.

It was nice to meet you on my last trip.[/QUOTE]When are you going back?

I'm man enough to own up when I come up short despite being 6"5. On the cupid sites I have so much Success I decided to check out some other ones. Parperfeito etc got some incredibly hot girls-many white brown and all in between. There I have no luck with the girls In the age bracket I like -20-28 only older birds are watchin back- different vibe but hey ho and God bless the cupid sites and wear your "Make Rio great again" cap sponsored by Vila Mimosa and Centaurus.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2151553]I'm man enough to own up when I come up short despite being 6"5.[/QUOTE]No one will ever accuse you of not loving yourself, that's for sure! LOL.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2151589]No one will ever accuse you of not loving yourself, that's for sure! LOL.[/QUOTE]Kkkkk I'm actually a humble dude who loves Rio and Brazil almost as much as my make Rio great again cap.
More! Let's get it! I'm touchin down in 3 weeks let's go! And thank the lawd for cupid sites- saved me again!

BTW!!!!!! On a serious note I think
The old smiling bald dude who owns mv30 and Subsolo late night spot def turbo boosts his drinks like caipirinhas.
They got sth in em,2 of my boys def felt messed up after like 2 and I have too at times-not like drunk-like out of it a bit.
Maybe they just rocked with the shitty paint stripper cachassa but my friend swore it was spiked loool
Old safado tryina make us spend those reais!
Now if only he could recruit some hotties like he used to back in 2013-2016 Id come back!! Im curious if anybody else found drinks in there like turbo charged? Cause I can drink about 8 caipirinhas normally and then Im twisted and
To end with a classic mv30 story:
I go in on a Wednesday eve about 7pm-forgot it was start of some Brazilian holiday next day so it was packed and traditional music was bumpin.Mad dudes in there and girl on the pole doin madness s some brave carioca runs up on stage to touch her while shes up in the air with legs spread but instead she closes them around him in a headlock and 5 other guys run up and pull his pants down and take turns spanking him in a train!
Too funny- next to me on the sofa is an 80-85 year old dude who laughed so hard he fell off the sofa and the took the tables drinks with him.I went up with a chick and my boy was bored so he took a coked up negra up and she gave him his lifes ride and stole his leopard skin boxers and ran down the hall with them on and his shorts in her hand and tits out and he was stuck in the room trying to call reception speaking no português at all... Hahahah yo I got stories from VM and MC and Several Centro trash boate!
On uruguyana I went up to One to find a pensioner gettin head on the dance floor and 2 girls fuckin on stage while the dj was playin James brown...now that was a mad night!

[QUOTE=Komo753;2150792]......The girls on the picture looks Indigenous or Asian.[/QUOTE]The photo is of Tiazinha (Suzana Alves). She was a cultural phenomenon in Brazil around 1998-2000. She was the archetypical, hot babe TV presenter that Latin American television hires to strut around in tight and revealing outfits. She had incredible sex appeal and a funny, charismatic persona that she developed in the masked character Tiazinha. Her appearance in Brazilian Playboy became a top-seller. It's worth taking a look at her pictorial shot in New Orleans.

Suzana Alves looks European. I suppose could have a drop of Native-Brazilian or Asian blood.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMcC2vO9Zow[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbCFwIs63G0[/URL]

[QUOTE=BeenBob;2151505]When are you going back?[/QUOTE]I will be back in Brazil in July or the latest September. I will be staying for six months.

Let me know by Email when you go back to Brazil from LA.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2151910]The photo is of Tiazinha (Suzana Alves). She was a cultural phenomenon in Brazil around 1998-2000. She was the archetypical, hot babe TV presenter that Latin American television hires to strut around in tight and revealing outfits. She had incredible sex appeal and a funny, charismatic persona that she developed in the masked character Tiazinha. Her appearance in Brazilian Playboy became a top-seller. It's worth taking a look at her pictorial shot in New Orleans.

Suzana Alves looks European. I suppose could have a drop of Native-Brazilian or Asian blood.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMcC2vO9Zow[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbCFwIs63G0[/URL][/QUOTE]I checked out videos. Her body is perfect.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2150709]Other thing I noticed is how much Brazilian girls like to suck on my nuts. I never really thought about that until I started going to Brazil a lot, and they would do that. And I liked it! Brazilian girls and Polish girls. They like to suck my nuts! Weird![/QUOTE]Sucking my nuts actually does nothing for me. I once had a beautiful Sao Paulo escort sucking my dick nice and rapid. While she was working on my dick, she was lightly massaging my balls. It wasn't quite tickling. It was the kind of pleasurable technique that only an escort with a few years experience would have developed and mastered. It was surprisingly very enjoyable.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2152367]I checked out videos. Her body is perfect.[/QUOTE]I find Tiazinha has the perfect Brazilian shape for me. The ass is big and curvy by Euro / American standards, but not necessarily by Brazilian standards. Then there is that Brazilian trademark firmness. I also think Tiazinha is one of the prettiest Brazilian women I have ever seen including the Victoria Secret women.

If one likes Brazilian shape but more busty, they should checkout Ellen Roche. I'm not sure I know a better combination of tits and ass.

https://gatobemdotado.com/ellen-roche-nua-pelada-na-playboy/

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2152488]I find Tiazinha has the perfect Brazilian shape for me. The ass is big and curvy by Euro / American standards, but not necessarily by Brazilian standards. Then there is that Brazilian trademark firmness. I also think Tiazinha is one of the prettiest Brazilian women I have ever seen including the Victoria Secret women.

If one likes Brazilian shape but more busty, they should checkout Ellen Roche. I'm not sure I know a better combination of tits and ass.

https://gatobemdotado.com/ellen-roche-nua-pelada-na-playboy/[/QUOTE]I prefer the body of the first one in spite of the fact that she doesn't look Caucasian.

Can anyone recommend, from experience, which escort site / agency would be good to bring over a few girls for a festa / festinha? Looking to have 3 or 4 nice girls all to myself! Yum! Again, I have a good list of about 10-12 escort sites, but I'm looking for personal experience from those who have ordered a few girls all at once.

Thanks!

Rodeo.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2152994]Can anyone recommend, from experience, which escort site / agency would be good to bring over a few girls for a festa / festinha? Looking to have 3 or 4 nice girls all to myself! Yum! Again, I have a good list of about 10-12 escort sites, but I'm looking for personal experience from those who have ordered a few girls all at once.

Thanks!

Rodeo.[/QUOTE]While do enjoy home delivery, other than non-pro friends, some of the best festas I have had have been at the termas. Cancun has nice large rooms that easily accommodate 3-4 girls. Some of the other termas are a little bit tight. My approach is to pick a favorite and ask her to select a couple friends. I find that the chemistry among the girls is an important element and with home delivery, they might not even know each other. Festas require a lot of energy and coordination and things just flow better if there is one girl in charge. For those who want to try this at home, you might be surprised at how many lesbian couples are into this scene. Dildos and strap-ONS get old. One thing for sure, the girl on girl action is real.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2152994]Can anyone recommend, from experience, which escort site / agency would be good to bring over a few girls for a festa / festinha? Looking to have 3 or 4 nice girls all to myself! Yum! Again, I have a good list of about 10-12 escort sites, but I'm looking for personal experience from those who have ordered a few girls all at once.

Thanks!

Rodeo.[/QUOTE]Suites in 4 by 4 are way bigger than those of Cancun. The suites in 4 by 4 on the first floor are the biggest rooms I have ever been in a terma. Cabins are more or less like those of Cancun unless you ask for the cabins next to cafeteria, they are way bigger. Cabins only provide enough space for three people.

You better pick girls' number to meet them late in the night. Many girls in termas are up for sex party.

My regular wasn't working today at 119 Alfandega so checked a few of the other clubs in the area. 210 Uruguayana (no entry, no minimum consumption) had maybe 12-15 girls and lots of guys, but no girl that sparked my desire (the girl I did last week won't be back until tomorrow). Went to 145 Uruguayana (no entry, minimum consumption). Asked the guy if there were girls in the club, since the last time I was there it was empty. He said yes, so I went up to the club area. 6 girls, three with some guys, one with another guy, two unattractive ones by themselves. Went back down immediately and handed him back the drink ticket, telling him there were no girls, and left without objection from him. Dead club. Went to 31 Machado (10 real minimum consumption). Met the owner again while I was walking in to the club. A dozen or so girls, a few less guys, but no one fuckable for me, so finished my beer and left. Didn't bother with 502 Alfandega given the lack of doable girls in my last two visits. 119 and 210 are the best of the cheap boates in my opinion.

I deeply apologize because I know this is not the right thread to post this question but the thread Reais vs US $ is way outdated so I'll ask here.

Where do I get a good exchange rate in Rio (preferably in Copa), without compromising your security? Haven't been in Rio for quite some time.

Please understand I need urgent info as I'll travel tomorrow.

Appreciate your understanding gents.

[QUOTE=Papi Muy Rico;2153935]I deeply apologize because I know this is not the right thread to post this question but the thread Reais vs US $ is way outdated so I'll ask here.

Where do I get a good exchange rate in Rio (preferably in Copa), without compromising your security? Haven't been in Rio for quite some time.

Please understand I need urgent info as I'll travel tomorrow.

Appreciate your understanding gents.[/QUOTE]I'm happy if I can help a good contributor like Papi Muy Rico. If you had intention to change money in Centro i would recommend Casa Behar or PM Turismo, both on Av Rio Branco. As you want to change in Copa the suggestion will be different.
Do like this. First check the rate on PM Turismo website:
[URL]http://www.pmturismo.com.br[/URL]
Then you'll get an idea what's the going rate in the casa de cambios. Then you head to Rua Xavier da Silveira in Copa. On that street you have 3 cambios and around the corner on NS Cop you have 2 more. In five minutes you can check the rate at all the cambios. BlameitonRio-Bobby will give you a bad rate. If you go to Berthas make sure you speak with the obese guy (the owner). I guess Viajes Norte will give you the best rate among the casas de cambio in that area.

The rate on PM Turismo website is decent, but you can expect a clearly better rate if you negotiate well with the cambios I've mentioned. Always negotiate with the owner.

P.S If you change Euros you get a extra good rate if you have very neat and new 500 Euro bills.

[QUOTE=PapiMuyRico;2153935]I deeply apologize because I know this is not the right thread to post this question but the thread Reais vs US $ is way outdated so I'll ask here.

Where do I get a good exchange rate in Rio (preferably in Copa), without compromising your security? Haven't been in Rio for quite some time.

Please understand I need urgent info as I'll travel tomorrow.

Appreciate your understanding gents.[/QUOTE]On the same block of the Rio Othon Palace which is Rua Xavier da Silveira there are about 3 or 4 cambios right across the street from Bobby's blame it on Rio store. What I usually do is go in each one and ask if I can get a better rate if I exchange 1,000 or 2,000 dollars, they usually do a little better for volume. Hit all 3 or 4 of them including Bobby's blame it on Rio and see who gives the best rate. I never exchanged with Bobby. I have even been told by my apartment agent that she has the best rate and one day she did and have even had the taxi driver offer me the best rate but you may not know the best rate there until you start to compare different places. Of course there is always someone here who has that favorite place in Centro or somewhere, I just go to the close and obvious places.

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[QUOTE=Sperto;2154010]BlameitonRio-Bobby will give you a bad rate. [/QUOTE]No always true. In fact on Wednesday Bobby was offering 3. 25 when all of the other Cambios in the area (that I checked) were offering 3. 20. In Ipanema I was also getting 3. 20 as of last week.

Bobby can be a polarizing figure in Copa. And though I deal with him much anymore, he's always been straight with me.

[QUOTE=Chezz;2154072]No always true. In fact on Wednesday Bobby was offering 3. 25 when all of the other Cambios in the area were offering 3. 20. In Ipanema I was also getting 3. 20 as of last week.

Bobby can be a polarizing figure in Copa. And though I deal with him much anymore, he's always been straight with me.[/QUOTE]Maybe not always true, but usually is. Have never exchanged with Bobby because his rates were always the worst. To the point that I just even stopped inquiring. Go across the street.

[QUOTE=Chezz;2154072]No always true. In fact on Wednesday Bobby was offering 3. 25 when all of the other Cambios in the area (that I checked) were offering 3. 20. In Ipanema I was also getting 3. 20 as of last week.

Bobby can be a polarizing figure in Copa. And though I deal with him much anymore, he's always been straight with me.[/QUOTE]That's fair. I don't know Bobby very well, I might very well be wrong. Bobby is a very nice guy, but with serious alcoholic problems. I've stayed several times in his old apartment with 5 locks on the door on Djalma Ulrich, and my conclusion is that he's very paranoid. Still, he's a survivor and I admire and respect him for that, even though I would never use his services.
When I'm was doing my cambio runs with my cash, Bobby's rate always have been a joke with his offered rate. A bit like: "Hi, amigo, I know you for 25 years, but still let me try to f*ck up your cambio. If you're not interested I still have a expensive lavanderia to offer you."
Don't get me wrong. I'm happy Bobby is still around. He's a relic from the Old Days, just like the The Professor, Big Balls on the ho-beach, Fiscal the Natureza and the old chewinging gum lady outside Help. Bobby is a dinosaur (just like me and RioBob (I hope you don't mind)). But sometimes the dinosaurs are useful to get a different perspective from the newbies who wants to give a (unfortunately) wrong picture of the Rio scene after.

Welcome do some flaming.

Hello everybody,

I have a trip in a few weeks. I has seen there are some swinger clubs. Is it good?

Il seems MC is the best?

Thanks for your answers.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2154181]This guy Sperto has given more great advice in this Rio forum than I could ever thank him for.

When I was new to Rio, his posts, maps, advice, etc, were invaluable.

Your post here is comical really.

Pick and choose your own girls.

No one is forcing you to chose a certain girl or type of girl.

Not his fault if a girl is not into you and wants to end the session as soon as she can.

That's chemistry, and even Sperto cannot create that for ya, LOL.[/QUOTE]
"Supervisor from the low thrash prives". I would like to have that that job.
That was funny reading. I didn't even notice JuveStadium post. The guy asked three years ago (on page 326 in this thread) "Does anybody from the old members knows where is Marcela, a little bit older, tall, blonde with a strong body, worked at Rua Buenos Aires 85 until 2012. Maybe Sperto."
I answered his post: "JuveStadium: No I don't know your Marcela from former BA85. Marcela is a common GP-name." His next post, three years later, is the one Balboa quoted. Weird guy.

I'm not going to flame you as I've never met you. But to accuse someone you admit to not knowing very well (Bobby) of "very serious alcoholic problems" is a little unfair.

When I saw Bobby on Wednesday he was clearly sober, seemed happy and looked healthy for his age. He had customers coming and going. To be an expat in Rio and maintain a business for over 15 years is quite a feat. A feat I imagine would be nearly impossible for an alcoholic.

Yeah. I was asked to invest in his laundromat. I passed. Looks like it's still up and running. Good for him. My opinion about Bobby isn't wrong, as you state, just different. He's a character and to me a solid dude.

There's a lot of relics from the old days. Many are still around. And most, like me, don't post much anymore because of how toxic certain topics become (like opinions on Centaurus).

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2154156]Welcome do some flaming. :)[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheCane;2154077]Maybe not always true, but usually is. Have never exchanged with Bobby because his rates were always the worst. To the point that I just even stopped inquiring. Go across the street.[/QUOTE]All things being equal, I'the rather deal with someone who I know and trust. So no, I won't be going across the street. And to new people on the board, Bobby can indeed be trusted.

[QUOTE=Chezz;2154226]I'm not going to flame you as I've never met you. But to accuse someone you admit to not knowing very well (Bobby) of "very serious alcoholic problems" is a little unfair.[/QUOTE]I didn't write "very" serious.
Cheers

I have met this girl full figured, very white, Julia Roberts smile, at MC, but I haven't seen her for the last 1 year. Speaks reasonable English.

Any one know her? I have her cell phone, but it is not more working. She is well travelled to US, Europe etc.

Can anyone give me advice on anonymous motels?

Can anyone tell me where to find anonymous motel in Copa?

[QUOTE=Chezz;2154228]All things being equal, I'the rather deal with someone who I know and trust. So no, I won't be going across the street. And to new people on the board, Bobby can indeed be trusted.[/QUOTE]I'm not recommending that you go across the street. I'm recommending that everybody else do that if they want the best rates. Great if you want to deal with Bobby because you can trust him, and therefore will accept less. For most everybody else, we aren't interested in doing that, so I say trust that the guys across the street are going to give you the best rates, based on my prior dealings with Bobby. Nothing against him personally. His rates just aren't as good. When it comes to exchanging money, I say put getting a good rate over a "friend" you "trust" who would give you less. Reminds me of the old saying. With friends like that, who needs enemies?

[QUOTE=Sperto;2154156]
Don't get me wrong. I'm happy Bobby is still around. He's a relic from the Old Days, just like the The Professor, Big Balls on the ho-beach, Fiscal the Natureza and the old chewinging gum lady outside Help. Bobby is a dinosaur (just like me and RioBob (I hope you don't mind)). But sometimes the dinosaurs are useful to get a different perspective from the newbies who wants to give a (unfortunately) wrong picture of the Rio scene after.

[/QUOTE]lol The professor? I haven't seen him in a long time, wonder if he's still there. ET recently mentioned the chiclette lady and I knew I had a pic of her some place but couldn't find it. I do have a pic of fiscal attached and I have many videos of him doing his thing, I also attached a pic of Jefferson another relic who lived in Rio and drove a purple VW. I know bobby a long time too even before he had his store when they used to call him pretzel bobby because he had an idea to sell pretzels on Copacabana or was it bagels.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2154328]I'm not recommending that you go across the street. I'm recommending that everybody else do that if they want the best rates. Great if you want to deal with Bobby because you can trust him, and therefore will accept less. For most everybody else, we aren't interested in doing that, so I say trust that the guys across the street are going to give you the best rates, based on my prior dealings with Bobby. Nothing against him personally. His rates just aren't as good. When it comes to exchanging money, I say put getting a good rate over a "friend" you "trust" who would give you less. Reminds me of the old saying. With friends like that, who needs enemies?[/QUOTE]Actually, as I mentioned on a previous post, I did check around and Bobby had a better rate than others in the area. I don't accept a lesser rate, and wouldn't intentionally accept a lesser rate.

If the rate is the same, I'the go with someone I know. Also, it depends on the amount I'm changing. If I'm changing a large amount, then of course I'the go with whoever has the better rate. Though safety, trust and confidence do play a factor. I'm not changing a large sum the first time I do business with someone. I'll change a lower amount and get to know them first. But that's just me.

Anyway, I think we've beaten this one into the ground. I just returned from a fantastic trip. Best one in years. Nearly every girl was an 8 or better. And my last dance, as it were, was with a Penelope Cruz look-alike at Centaurus that was a solid 10 in every way. Also had a fun time at 4 x4 with the line-up being the strongest I've seen it in years. And the service, in both places, was better than ever. As an aside, the trip from Posto 9 to Centro was only 31 reals in an Uber. It was in the middle of rush hour and took over an hour in traffic and pouring rain. But it's hard to beat the price and convenience.

Overall this trip to Rio was probably my favorite, all things considered.

[QUOTE=Rio Bob;2154485]lol The professor? I haven't seen him in a long time, wonder if he's still there. ET recently mentioned the chiclette lady and I knew I had a pic of her some place but couldn't find it. I do have a pic of fiscal attached and I have many videos of him doing his thing, I also attached a pic of Jefferson another relic who lived in Rio and drove a purple VW. I know bobby a long time too even before he had his store when they used to call him pretzel bobby because he had an idea to sell pretzels on Copacabana or was it bagels.[/QUOTE]I haven't seen the professor for some years. I friend of mine saw him last year. I heard he left Copacabana and moved to Botafogo (rumour). I've a nice photo of the chiclete lady. Yes, pretzels not bagels.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2154485]lol The professor? I haven't seen him in a long time, wonder if he's still there. ET recently mentioned the chiclette lady and I knew I had a pic of her some place but couldn't find it. I do have a pic of fiscal attached and I have many videos of him doing his thing, I also attached a pic of Jefferson another relic who lived in Rio and drove a purple VW. I know bobby a long time too even before he had his store when they used to call him pretzel bobby because he had an idea to sell pretzels on Copacabana or was it bagels.[/QUOTE]He wanted to bring bagels from America first and when that got shot down, he considered selling pretzels. The price for a store in the mall was too high so he never did it.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2154592]He wanted to bring bagels from America first and when that got shot down, he considered selling pretzels. The price for a store in the mall was too high so he never did it.[/QUOTE]I brought pretzels for Bobby on several occasions but I thought it was for his personal consumption.

How well has Bobby recovered from the robbery a few years ago?

He is a good guy. Over the years, I've had a few conversations with him about the Rio scene.

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Does semana santa affect Rio for mongers as it does other parts of Latin America?

Can someone please post current Termas prices as well as what specials are available on what days? Thanks!

Can anyone recommend any pick up spots to encounter girls with less mileage on them, that may seek out us foreigners from time to time to help pay the bills? Bars, clubs, restaurants, other places? Not looking for girls seeking relationships, just the ones maybe looking for dinner or lunch or drinks and then a P4 P fuck.

Thanks.

I have reasonably frequented to Solarium, MC, Centauraus. 4 x 4 in RDJ. Love the concept of thermas.

I have seen a lot of websites on Argentinian girls. And I would like to explore. But I don't want running around multiple places, making mongering difficult. I like it a little upscale, like the termas or like the FKKs in Germany.

I am there for 10 days right now. So I am thinking of getting 2-3 days to Argentina. Don't want to spend all 10 days in Rio.

Any guidance.

Any other city that I should not miss out on?

[blue]You can check: http://www.argentinaprivate.com/[/blue]

[QUOTE=MRusa007;2155704]I have reasonably frequented to Solarium, MC, Centauraus. 4 x 4 in RDJ. Love the concept of thermas.

I have seen a lot of websites on Argentinian girls. And I would like to explore. But I don't want running around multiple places, making mongering difficult. I like it a little upscale, like the termas or like the FKKs in Germany.

I am there for 10 days right now. So I am thinking of getting 2-3 days to Argentina. Don't want to spend all 10 days in Rio.

Any guidance.

Any other city that I should not miss out on?

[blue]You can check: http://www.argentinaprivate.com/[/blue][/QUOTE]Truly the best advice is, STAY in Brazil!

I would never go to Argentina, for the women anyway.

To see Argentina, ok, I get it!

The PFP there now compared to Brazil, sucks!

Maybe before the "clean up" madness that occurred it was ok.

Now it sucks compared to Brazil!

Bait and switch queens.

Gold pussy syndrome.

Whenever I'm there, I dream of my return to Brazil.

Between São Paulo and Rio, you will not miss anything in Argentina, women wise IMHO.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2155919]Truly the best advice is, STAY in Brazil!

I would never go to Argentina, for the women anyway.

To see Argentina, ok, I get it!

The PFP there now compared to Brazil, sucks!

Maybe before the "clean up" madness that occurred it was ok.

Now it sucks compared to Brazil!

Bait and switch queens.

Gold pussy syndrome.

Whenever I'm there, I dream of my return to Brazil.

Between So Paulo and Rio, you will not miss anything in Argentina, women wise IMHO.[/QUOTE]Sorry to contradict you, Argentinian women are easygoing, laid back and very hot. No women from South America are as hot as Argentinian women outside of Brazilians from the south and Uruguayans. They are mostly fair-skinned and Caucasian. If you are into white European women you would better visit Argentina. The only thing that sucks in Argentina is the living cost. P4P is as good as in Brazil but it is more expensive. Regulars are like in Brazil, It depends on how much Spanish you know.

Personally I am more comfortable with Brazilians because I can speak Portuguese with a Portuguese and Brazilian accent. Brazilians think I am from Brazil. I had a good experience in Argentina though my knowledge of Spanish is limited, to me Brazil is better than Argentina because My Spanish is not as good as my Portuguese but in terms of girls, I find they are as beautiful as each other. If you speak good Spanish with a beautiful accent, in that case Argentina is for you.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2155919]Truly the best advice is, STAY in Brazil!

I would never go to Argentina, for the women anyway.

To see Argentina, ok, I get it!

The PFP there now compared to Brazil, sucks!

Maybe before the "clean up" madness that occurred it was ok.

Now it sucks compared to Brazil!

Bait and switch queens.

Gold pussy syndrome.

Whenever I'm there, I dream of my return to Brazil.

Between So Paulo and Rio, you will not miss anything in Argentina, women wise IMHO.[/QUOTE]Go to Argentina for the meat not the girls.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2155919]Truly the best advice is, STAY in Brazil!
I would never go to Argentina, for the women anyway.
[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Komo753;2156225]Sorry to contradict you, Argentinian women are easygoing, laid back and very hot. No women from South America are as hot as Argentinian women outside of Brazilians from the south and Uruguayans. They are mostly fair-skinned and Caucasian. If you are into white European women you would better visit Argentina. The only thing that sucks in Argentina is the living cost. P4P is as good as in Brazil but it is more expensive.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2156243]Go to Argentina for the meat not the girls.[/QUOTE]What if someone speaks Portuguese and Spanish fluently and looks like they are from southern Brazil?

What to do? What to do?

[QUOTE=Komo753;2156225]Sorry to contradict you, Argentinian women are easygoing, laid back and very hot. No women from South America are as hot as Argentinian women outside of Brazilians from the south and Uruguayans. They are mostly fair-skinned and Caucasian. If you are into white European women you would better visit Argentina. The only thing that sucks in Argentina is the living cost. P4P is as good as in Brazil but it is more expensive. Regulars are like in Brazil, It depends on how much Spanish you know.

Personally I am more comfortable with Brazilians because I can speak Portuguese with a Portuguese and Brazilian accent. Brazilians think I am from Brazil. I had a good experience in Argentina though my knowledge of Spanish is limited, to me Brazil is better than Argentina because My Spanish is not as good as my Portuguese but in terms of girls, I find they are as beautiful as each other. If you speak good Spanish with a beautiful accent, in that case Argentina is for you.[/QUOTE]Well, I'm being sincere when I say that I'm glad you enjoy and really like the women there in Argentina.

We obviously have a much different taste in women.

That's ok.

Not sure the last time you were there, but they've had a cleansing of PFP.

Of course it's still around, but more hidden and online.

Not my thing.

And lots of false photos, bat and switch, etc.

The culture difference is quite different really.

I speak fluent Spanish and Portuguese.

Brazilian people in general, and the culture is much more loving and happy and open in Brazil.

I'm glad you enjoy Argentina.

I personally would never recommend anyone to leave Brazil for PFP hunting in Argentina.

Go to SP if you like the fair skin beauties.

Plenty there!

Just my humble opinion.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2156225]P4P is as good as in Brazil but it is more expensive.[/QUOTE]While I know this is mostly subjective, you cannot be serious. No disrespect intended, but can you name 1 club -- just 1 -- that's as good as any of the tier 1 termas in Rio (or Sao Paulo for that matter)?

The mongering scene in Argentina, while not exactly dead, is certainly on life support. There are a few high-end chicas available, but it takes an incredible amount of time and effort to find them as they're mostly independents. As Balboa said, there's a ton of bait-and-switch on the local sites ([URL]http://www.bairesgirls.net/[/URL] being a good example), and you need some decent Spanish skills to navigate your way through that mess.

I lived in Barrio Norte, Recoleta and Villa Urquiza and watched as one-by-one the clubs were systematically closed down. If you have another reason for visiting Argentina; ie friends, the food or culture, then you can mix in some low-level action with the crumbs that are left.

The Argentina Private board might be a good place to ask around as there are a few guys there with some decent info. But there's more politics and restaurant information there than solid chica intel. Sorry Jackson, M & J.

If you have some game, you can try to local nightclubs out by the University for some non-pro action. But most of those clubs don't get pumping until 2-3 am.

[QUOTE=Chezz;2156361]While I know this is mostly subjective, you cannot be serious. No disrespect intended, but can you name 1 club -- just 1 -- that's as good as any of the tier 1 termas in Rio (or Sao Paulo for that matter)?

The mongering scene in Argentina, while not exactly dead, is certainly on life support. There are a few high-end chicas available, but it takes an incredible amount of time and effort to find them as they're mostly independents. As Balboa said, there's a ton of bait-and-switch on the local sites ([URL]http://www.bairesgirls.net/[/URL] being a good example), and you need some decent Spanish skills to navigate your way through that mess.

I lived in Barrio Norte, Recoleta and Villa Urquiza and watched as one-by-one the clubs were systematically closed down. If you have another reason for visiting Argentina; ie friends, the food or culture, then you can mix in some low-level action with the crumbs that are left.

The Argentina Private board might be a good place to ask around as there are a few guys there with some decent info. But there's more politics and restaurant information there than solid chica intel. Sorry Jackson, M & J.

If you have some game, you can try to local nightclubs out by the University for some non-pro action. But most of those clubs don't get pumping until 2-3 am.[/QUOTE]Colombia DR and Venezuela got them stunners but vibe wise as people I way prefer Brazil-a great personality adds sexyness so BR wins overall.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2155919]...I would never go to Argentina, for the women anyway...Gold pussy syndrome.[/QUOTE]I agree, mongering in Buenos Aires sucks big time! Nice city for tourism, but not for mongering.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2156627]I agree, mongering in Buenos Aires sucks big time! Nice city for tourism, but not for mongering.[/QUOTE]I am going to "pile on" and agree that mongering in Buenos Aires now sucks. It used to be decent about a decade ago. But now, not so much. My 2 cents on the matter. Like others have said, a great tourist town, but don't go specifically for the best mongering action. Stick with Brazil.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2156627]I agree, mongering in Buenos Aires sucks big time! Nice city for tourism, but not for mongering.[/QUOTE]I disagree. I was there last June and had a great time. Look for my TR called "Ten night romp in Buenos Aires, Argentina" in the Argentina TR threads.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2156316]What if someone speaks Portuguese and Spanish fluently and looks like they are from southern Brazil?

What to do? What to do?[/QUOTE]You just have to jerk off and everything will work out well for you. Don't worry many girls will be up your ass but you just have to worry about your sperm volume and quality and maybe you will procreate a southern Brazilian looking son that will take the rein when you are dead or retired from sex.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2156418]Colombia DR and Venezuela got them stunners but vibe wise as people I way prefer Brazil-a great personality adds sexyness so BR wins overall.[/QUOTE]Brazil is way better because there are girls for every taste.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;2156755]I disagree. I was there last June and had a great time. Look for my TR called "Ten night romp in Buenos Aires, Argentina" in the Argentina TR threads.[/QUOTE]I guess some of us remember it from when it was really, really good my man. But, glad you had a good time!

We can't possibly be having this discussion about the best place to find hot women without including Thailand.

And, Cleveland. Ever since LeBron's return, all the hot women have been gravitating to that Mecca of American Decadence.

How much is a água de coco in Buenos Aires? Are they easy to find in all sizes?

Just make an effort to learn the language, make an effort to smile and be nice, make an effort to keep $ in your pocket, and all will be good on so many different levels. Oh yea, have some balls, and be adventurous too. Good luck gentlemen!

[QUOTE=Mangera;2156942]Just make an effort to learn the language, make an effort to smile and be nice, make an effort to keep $ in your pocket, and all will be good on so many different levels. Oh yea, have some balls, and be adventurous too. Good luck gentlemen![/QUOTE]Exactly!! In Brazil learning the language definetely has so many perks with women there. Can't even imagine going to Rio without portugues. Best decision I ever made some 5 years ago. Transformed my relationships and my love for Br-do yourselves a favor and get stuck in.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2156841]We can't possibly be having this discussion about the best place to find hot women without including Thailand.

And, Cleveland. Ever since LeBron's return, all the hot women have been gravitating to that Mecca of American Decadence.[/QUOTE]Mecca is where Jesus and Mahomet were born.

Don't worry the next discussion will be about going on a pilgrimage to Rio de Janeiro to see Jesus. Do you know Jesus is from Rio de Janeiro?

May god bless mongers.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;2156755]I disagree. I was there last June and had a great time. Look for my TR called "Ten night romp in Buenos Aires, Argentina" in the Argentina TR threads.[/QUOTE]Just read your "Ten night Romp in BA".

Most of the clubs that you mention are closed down, except Newport and D’Lirio.

I would again never recommend leaving Brazil for BA on a girl seeking trip.

It just generally sucks now.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2153370]Suites in 4 by 4 are way bigger than those of Cancun. The suites in 4 by 4 on the first floor are the biggest rooms I have ever been in a terma. Cabins are more or less like those of Cancun unless you ask for the cabins next to cafeteria, they are way bigger. Cabins only provide enough space for three people.

You better pick girls' number to meet them late in the night. Many girls in termas are up for sex party.[/QUOTE]You got to be shitting me. There are bigger rooms at 4 x 4? Here, I thought it was called 4 x 4 because that was the size of the rooms. Damn, do you mean all these years and all the threesomes and foursomes I have had could have been in one of those larger rooms. Wonder why no one ever mentioned it? Do they charge extra? No worries, I will just use one of the larger rooms that Cancun reserves for VIPs. Oh, you probably didn't know about those.

As for those late-night sex parties, can't imagine a more "up for it" companion than a girl who has been having sex with guys all night.

Most festas I have had were either at the termas or on the girls' days off when they are a little more up for a sex party.

[QUOTE=FNick31;2154304]Can anyone tell me where to find anonymous motel in Copa?[/QUOTE]A good choice is Hotel Vanity on Nossa Senhora do Copacabana 1079.

It is the best known short time love motel. The exterior is blue glass.

You walk up a long staircase to reception. Rooms are basic but clean.

In January 2018, if my memory serves me correctly, midweek you can get a room for 4 hours for under 100 reais.

I have been to Cancun over 20 times on my last trip. They have small-sized rooms, if you want to upgrade to a large room you have pay extra. Waiters are very lazy unlike the ones in 4 by 4. Always the same girls it is like they never change girls. There is practically no show. Their dance floor is only for decoration. Girls look tired as if they don't want to be there.

Given that 4 by 4 is more expensive than Cancun, I still prefer 4 by'4.

Enjoy Rio de Janeiro and put all your negative things behind you.

[QUOTE=Rocinha;2157216]A good choice is Hotel Vanity on Nossa Senhora do Copacabana 1079.

It is the best known short time love motel. The exterior is blue glass.

You walk up a long staircase to reception. Rooms are basic but clean.

In January 2018, if my memory serves me correctly, midweek you can get a room for 4 hours for under 100 reais.[/QUOTE]Vanity closed long ago?

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2157440]Vanity closed long ago[/QUOTE]It's great that you and Komo keeps us updated with correct information. Thanks a lot.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2157440]Vanity closed long ago?[/QUOTE]All the misinformation you spew on this forum is growing intolerable.

Valuable contributors no longer post because you insist on commenting (usually inaccurately) on every post. Unfortunately, you are not alone in this behavior.

Hotel Vanity is very much open. Here is their website:

[URL]http://www.hotelvanity.com.br/[/URL]

You would even have found current reviews had you bothered to look.

Please do not feel the need to comment on my post. Enough is enough.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2157445]It's great that you and Komo keeps us updated with correct information. Thanks a lot.[/QUOTE]It was a question but you removed the question mark-pathetic.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2157454]It was a question but you removed the question mark-pathetic.[/QUOTE]
Rocinha mentioned Vanity had a promocao 2 months ago, and still you quot and ask if they close long time ago...
Sorry, mestre, I thought you had an update we have all missed.

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[QUOTE=Komo753;2157290]I have been to Cancun over 20 times on my last trip. They have small-sized rooms, if you want to upgrade to a large room you have pay extra. Waiters are very lazy unlike the ones in 4 by 4. Always the same girls it is like they never change girls. There is practically no show. Their dance floor is only for decoration. Girls look tired as if they don't want to be there.

Given that 4 by 4 is more expensive than Cancun, I still prefer 4 by'4.

Enjoy Rio de Janeiro and put all your negative things behind you.[/QUOTE]I don't get this contradiction. Your last statement about putting all negative things behind you, when previous comments referred to negative sentiments about people and places in Rio.

For the record, Cancun is not my favorite place to have a drink, but I have met some nice people, and had good times there. I would agree with you that 4 x4 is better, for multiple reasons, but I believe they have their own issues too. Regardless, both places have its pros and cons. Enjoy!

[QUOTE=Mangera;2157662]I don't get this contradiction. Your last statement about putting all negative things behind you, when previous comments referred to negative sentiments about people and places in Rio.

For the record, Cancun is not my favorite place to have a drink, but I have met some nice people, and had good times there. I would agree with you that 4 x4 is better, for multiple reasons, but I believe they have their own issues too. Regardless, both places have its pros and cons. Enjoy![/QUOTE]I had been to Cancun over 20 times on my last trip and I plan on hitting Cancun on my next trip. Don't get me wrong. I like Cancun and I had good experience in that terma. I banged some stunners over there. As mentioned in my other posts, I prefer 4 by 4 over Cancun but that doesn't mean I hate Cancun because I've never had bad experience in that terma. The only thing I don't like about Cancun is that their staff service is humdrum and they don't have new talent, only the same girls working there, it feels like they don't change them.

Thanks for your assertion. You seem to be mature-minded unlike many folks whose names I don't want to cite and they always criticize other member thinking they are the only ones that provide correct information and no matter what others write, they are always wrong because only their information.

Excel, as mentioned in one of your posts, it's been a long time since you visited 4 by 4 so it is no use criticizing a terma you haven't been to for ages.

I am back from Rio I have stayed 1 week, just few information Taxi from GIG to Copa (fixed price !90 reals et from Copa to GIG 70 Reals Warning don't smoke outside airport there are municipal policia ready to give you a fine if you smoke!

Currency 1 euros.. 4. 15 reals in some Cambio av Nossa Senhora super! When I was in Rio 6 years ago it was 1 euros .2.5 reals.

As you know Balcony is closed and now the restaurant's name is Immaculate no girls at all, but very closer you have Mab's. I was 3 nights in Mabs for sure low quality and less girls than in Balcony.

I found 2 girls one very nice but lot of tattoos very good session with her, price 300 reals (I forgot her name), another 25 yo but very professional same price (name Luana).

There is a very young blond situated often in the corner of Av Prado Junior and av Atlantica, she looks very pretty but often I saw men speaking with her and no pick up maybe high price!

Sorry for my English.

[QUOTE=Frenchieboy;2157749]I am back from Rio I have stayed 1 week, just few information Taxi from GIG to Copa (fixed price !90 reals et from Copa to GIG 70 Reals Warning don't smoke outside airport there are municipal policia ready to give you a fine if you smoke!

Currency 1 euros.. 4. 15 reals in some Cambio av Nossa Senhora super! When I was in Rio 6 years ago it was 1 euros .2.5 reals.

As you know Balcony is closed and now the restaurant's name is Immaculate no girls at all, but very closer you have Mab's. I was 3 nights in Mabs for sure low quality and less girls than in Balcony.

I found 2 girls one very nice but lot of tattoos very good session with her, price 300 reals (I forgot her name), another 25 yo but very professional same price (name Luana).

There is a very young blond situated often in the corner of Av Prado Junior and av Atlantica, she looks very pretty but often I saw men speaking with her and no pick up maybe high price!

Sorry for my English.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your report on your three night's trip, Mabs is not as good as Balcony. Personally I don't like Mabs. Why don't you try out some termas in zona sul or centro? (third end or high end termas). You will find more stunners. Make the most of Rio de Janeiro because everything is cheap since Reais has fallen against Euro. If there is one girl you like, just talk to her. It is just business if she asks too much just skip it. Try as many venues as possible and don't only stick to one place.

Neither am I native in English. English is only my fourth language. I speak French and Portuguese from Portugal as first languages. This is not an English Grammar forum but a forum to share information on how to monger. Your post is well comprehensible.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2157055]Just read your "Ten night Romp in BA".

Most of the clubs that you mention are closed down, except Newport and DLirio.

I would again never recommend leaving Brazil for BA on a girl seeking trip.

It just generally sucks now.[/QUOTE]I'm actually in BA, Argentina now.

Hit Newport and D’Lirios last night.

Can honestly say I didn't see one girl, in either place, I'the be with for Free.

And they were asking for 2-300 US Dollars, LOL.

The girls, especially at Newport, made MABs girls look like super models! LOL.

Once again, do yourself a favor, stay in Brazil!

And again, all IMHO.

Who's in town in April? Buceta patrols are going down with alarming frequency all of April!

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2159581]Who's in town in April? Buceta patrols are going down with alarming frequency all of April![/QUOTE]I will be there the 23rd and 28th. Hit me up.

I'm in a quandary over the 2 best mongering destinations in the world. I know the issue has been debated ad nauseam. Being in Brazil now for the past 2 months I must say I'm having a great time and could just imagine how fantastic it would be retiring here. So, should I choose Brazil over Thailand? Here is my latest tally:

Food........................... Brazil (this is personal taste, I prefer Brazilian fare over Thai).

Safety........................ Thailand (crime is a big problem here).

Accommodation.......... Thailand.

Groceries.................... Thailand (heck groceries here are more expensive than back home in the good ole US).

Women....................... Brazil (hands down the hottest women in the world).

Working girls service.... Brazil (again hands down the best in the world).

Its a tie?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2159610]I'm in a quandary over the 2 best mongering destinations in the world. I know the issue has been debated ad nauseam. Being in Brazil now for the past 2 months I must say I'm having a great time and could just imagine how fantastic it would be retiring here. So, should I choose Brazil over Thailand? Here is my latest tally:

Food........................... Brazil (this is personal taste, I prefer Brazilian fare over Thai).

Safety........................ Thailand (crime is a big problem here).

Accommodation.......... Thailand.

Groceries.................... Thailand (heck groceries here are more expensive than back home in the good ole US).

Women....................... Brazil (hands down the hottest women in the world).

Working girls service.... Brazil (again hands down the best in the world).

Its a tie?[/QUOTE]Thanks for your insight.

I am going to go to Thailand for 10 days in June. But unfortunately I won't be able to monger there and I am not going to give a better insight than yours then.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2159581]Who's in town in April? Buceta patrols are going down with alarming frequency all of April![/QUOTE]Please try to come in August or September too. That will be the second time you go to Brazil since I have been stuck in Samurai land. Man it is time for you to give up your seat for another that's starved of sex. Don't be egoistical.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2159610]I'm in a quandary over the 2 best mongering destinations in the world. I know the issue has been debated ad nauseam. Being in Brazil now for the past 2 months I must say I'm having a great time and could just imagine how fantastic it would be retiring here. So, should I choose Brazil over Thailand? Here is my latest tally:

Food........................... Brazil (this is personal taste, I prefer Brazilian fare over Thai).

Safety........................ Thailand (crime is a big problem here).

Accommodation.......... Thailand.

Groceries.................... Thailand (heck groceries here are more expensive than back home in the good ole US).

Women....................... Brazil (hands down the hottest women in the world).

Working girls service.... Brazil (again hands down the best in the world).

Its a tie?[/QUOTE]If you prefer the women of Brazil in both beauty and service, then the results are quite clear. You considered it a tie because you weighed each category equally. But are "Groceries" and "Women" equal? Not in my book.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2159610]I'm in a quandary over the 2 best mongering destinations in the world. I know the issue has been debated ad nauseam. Being in Brazil now for the past 2 months I must say I'm having a great time and could just imagine how fantastic it would be retiring here. So, should I choose Brazil over Thailand? Here is my latest tally:

Food........................... Brazil (this is personal taste, I prefer Brazilian fare over Thai).

Safety........................ Thailand (crime is a big problem here).

Accommodation.......... Thailand.

Groceries.................... Thailand (heck groceries here are more expensive than back home in the good ole US).

Women....................... Brazil (hands down the hottest women in the world).

Working girls service.... Brazil (again hands down the best in the world).

Its a tie?[/QUOTE]Hi Turgid, nice to see you over in the Brazil forum. Here is my spreadsheet analysis of Thailand vs Brazil:

Weight ... Thailand ..... Brazil.

30% ....... Girls 7 ........ Girls 6.

30% ..... Service 7 ... Service 8.

10% ..... Food 9 ....... Food 7.

20% .... Safety 10 ..... Safety 3.

10% ..... Hotels 7 ...... Hotels 4.

100% ... Score 7.8 .... Score 5.9

The main difference in my analysis from yours is that I assign subjective weights to each category (first column) of the factors that I consider important. This is a very subjective decision. Assign your weighting preference to this analysis and you may arrive at a totally different outcome.

Girls & service are the 2 categories of major importance to me so they are weighted heavily (60%) and equally in my calculations. Note, that I personally find Thai girls more attractive than Brazilians, but I admit Brazilian girls are wilder and les inhibited in bed, but when it comes right down to it, I like Thai and Brazilian girls about equally, but for different reasons, so the determing factors for me, anyway, turn out to be the less important categories like safety (which includes crime stats, ease of getting around, no hassles, & relative ambiance of the place), purchasing power at hotels, and local cuisine. So, Thailand comes out on top in my analysis every time. Which is why I have not been to Brazil in ages although I do have some fond memories of the girls. I will probably visit Brazil again one of these years, but I am not holding my breath. Ha Ha.

[QUOTE=Chezz;2159651]If you prefer the women of Brazil in both beauty and service, then the results are quite clear. You considered it a tie because you weighed each category equally. But are "Groceries" and "Women" equal? Not in my book.[/QUOTE]Fuck that. I lived in Rio for 5 years and have lived in Pattaya the last 8. I always thought I would retire to Rio, but that was the old Rio. 2018 I say Thailand. My rent is $125/ month and I get chicks for $30 all night. My heart will always be Brazil, but as far as fun and economical, Thailand hands down.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2159640]Please try to come in August or September too. That will be the second time you go to Brazil since I have been stuck in Samurai land. Man it is time for you to give up your seat for another that's starved of sex. Don't be egoistical.[/QUOTE]Hahahahahah come down man-tell them you're sick at work and turn off your cellphone.

I will be back August / September.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2159684]Fuck that. I lived in Rio for 5 years and have lived in Pattaya the last 8. I always thought I would retire to Rio, but that was the old Rio. 2018 I say Thailand. My rent is $125/ month and I get chicks for $30 all night. My heart will always be Brazil, but as far as fun and economical, Thailand hands down.[/QUOTE]No comparison. Its all personal. Thai girls don't turn me on but I love thai food! LOL.

I love Brazil warts and all. And you're correct on all counts-financial etc and both countries have stunning natural beauty but just like with Dominican Republic, the people just don't do it for me.

I have gotten responses from some phenomenal members of ISG. On the Jakarta board the king of Indonesia, Smoothy, confirmed for me that Thailand was the best in South East Asia. I had an amazing spell of mongering in Jakarta 2015. Natty has certainly finessed my reckoning by placing emphasis on criteria in a manner that I can't argue with. Mr. E, however, has surprised me, I thought he would be one to give it up for the Latina booty. Nevertheless, I have been reading about the decreasing talent in Thailand as well. Both FuckA and Chezz seem to favor Brazil. Komo, you have my deepest sympathy re your Thailand visit. Not being able to monger there during a 10 day stay is the worst form of cold turkey. If I am to consider the views submitted by the experts overall I must, at this time, tip the scale in favor of Thailand, if objectivity is to prevail. But these damn garotas..... I did 2 today in SP, a branca and a morena, no way I can get Thais looking like that!

I don't really like Brazilian food but I love their women.

I don't really like Thai women but I love their food.

Anyway, I can't wait to go to Thailand to eat their food.

I won't monger in Thailand, since someone is up my ass and break my ball every minute so I guess my dick won't stand erect.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2159737]I have gotten responses from some phenomenal members of ISG. On the Jakarta board the king of Indonesia, Smoothy, confirmed for me that Thailand was the best in South East Asia. I had an amazing spell of mongering in Jakarta 2015. Natty has certainly finessed my reckoning by placing emphasis on criteria in a manner that I can't argue with. Mr. E, however, has surprised me, I thought he would be one to give it up for the Latina booty. Nevertheless, I have been reading about the decreasing talent in Thailand as well. Both FuckA and Chezz seem to favor Brazil. Komo, you have my deepest sympathy re your Thailand visit. Not being able to monger there during a 10 day stay is the worst form of cold turkey. If I am to consider the views submitted by the experts overall I must, at this time, tip the scale in favor of Thailand, if objectivity is to prevail. But these damn garotas..... I did 2 today in SP, a branca and a morena, no way I can get Thais looking like that![/QUOTE]You will miss this Brazilian girl when you monger in Thailand.

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/thaisoliveiraofficial/?hl=en[/URL]

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2159716]Hahahahahah come down man-tell them you're sick at work and turn off your cellphone.

I will be back August / September.[/QUOTE]Japan is not USA or UK. As soon as I tell them I am sick, they will confiscate my cellphone and kick me way up into the garbage dump, to tell me I am demoted to garbage man and have to serve the society by cleaning out the city.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2159610]I'm in a quandary over the 2 best mongering destinations in the world. I know the issue has been debated ad nauseam. Being in Brazil now for the past 2 months I must say I'm having a great time and could just imagine how fantastic it would be retiring here. So, should I choose Brazil over Thailand? Here is my latest tally:

Food........................... Brazil (this is personal taste, I prefer Brazilian fare over Thai).

Safety........................ Thailand (crime is a big problem here).

Accommodation.......... Thailand.

Groceries.................... Thailand (heck groceries here are more expensive than back home in the good ole US).

Women....................... Brazil (hands down the hottest women in the world).

Working girls service.... Brazil (again hands down the best in the world).

Its a tie?[/QUOTE]Brazil vs Thailand is a bit off topic for the Rio forum. Just have a couple of tweaks on the analysis. So Paulo is fairly safe, IMO. There are several neighborhoods I don't mind walking alone in after midnight, or having sex outdoors. The cost of groceries depends on the store. My diarista in Rio spent 90 are per week on groceries for me and that was good for five or six meals, and she was a good cook and cleaner. Rent varies. 2/2 off Av. Alantica with weekly maid service is $usd2000 per month. I can get the same price in So Paulo for a studio, but the street sex neighborhood runs another 1 k per month. If you don't mind living in the suburbs of SP, you can buy a 2 bed 3 bath for about $usd200 k.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2159741]You will miss this Brazilian girl when you monger in Thailand.

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/thaisoliveiraofficial/?hl=en[/URL][/QUOTE]Too bony for my taste.

In my opinion it is a tough choice as both countries have their strength and weaknesses. I have been visiting Rio and Pattaya for years. I speak Portuguese but not thai, which indirectly shows my preference.

Girls: For me Brazilian ladies wins hands down. On average sex is better and I find Brazilians more attractive. Prices are cheaper in Thailand though. If you want a live-in girlfriend I would think this would be easier in Thailand.

Food: Clearly a very individual choice. I do not particularly care for Thai food, so while Brazilian food is not the best in the world I prefer it to Thai food. In terms of cost Thailand is cheaper.

Safety: Thailand is the clear winner. It is much safer than Brazil.

Accommodation: Thailand is a clear winner in terms of value for money. Apples to apples Thailand is significantly cheaper and good condos or hotels can be had for at reasonable cost.

Groceries: I can find pretty much everything I want in both countries. Prices are lower in Thailand.

Locals: I would like to add this category as I feel the attitude of locals are an important part of how much I enjoy a place. For me Brazil wins this category as I, unlikely in Thailand, have never had the feeling that the locals disliked foreigners.

At the end of the day for me the decision depends on budget constraints. If I were on a tight budget Thailand would be a clear winner, while if money was less of an issue Brazil is a winner for me given my preference for Brazilian ladies and language skills.

Thailand is way way better for safety, accommodation, food and value for money. Brazil is none of these but the woman have great asses. I am prepared to put up with a lot of shit for a great ass. My Vote is for Brazil.

[QUOTE=Bubba Boy;2159923]Thailand is way way better for safety, accommodation, food and value for money. Brazil is none of these but the woman have great asses. I am prepared to put up with a lot of shit for a great ass. My Vote is for Brazil.[/QUOTE]When checking the Brazil thread I noted in the Rio Thread "Last report by: Bubba Boy". For a moment I thought our great Rio Guru was back in the land of bundas. I got myself a long nose.

Comparing Thailand vs Brazil. I also want to clutter the thread. :D

* Accomodation, groceries and safety: Everybody can propably agree that Thailand wins when it comes to accomodation, groceries and safety. Brazil isn't cheap anymore.
* Food: When it comes to food it's a matter of taste. I prefer brazilian food even though I like thai food as well.
* Locals: Brazil wins without any doubt. Thai people are nice and smiling. However, with brazilians you can make much more true friends. Friends for life.

* Not to forget the countries culture, music, dance and nature. Brazil wins over Thailand. Brazil is huge. You'll find jungle, beaches, mountains and deserts. 27 states where people, music and dancing are very much different depending on the region. Brazil is much more than Rio de Janeiro and São Paulo.

* Girls: It's a matter of taste. Brazil offers women of all colours and sizes. The hottest women on the earth. Not to forget the regular girls in Brazil that are way easier to pick than thai girls. Brazil wins easily.

* The only reasons I can see that somebody would choose Thailand instead of Brazil is because they are on a tight budget, being afraid of being mugged or that they prefer thai girls.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2159940]..........* Not to forget the countries culture, music, dance and nature. Brazil wins over Thailand. Brazil is huge. You'll find jungle, beaches, mountains and deserts. 27 states where people, music and dancing are very much different depending on the region. Brazil is much more than Rio de Janeiro and So Paulo.

* Girls: It's a matter of taste. Brazil offers women of all colours and sizes. The hottest women on the earth. Not to forget the regular girls in Brazil that are way easier to pick than thai girls. Brazil wins easily.

* The only reasons I can see that somebody would choose Thailand instead of Brazil is because they are on a tight budget, being afraid of being mugged or that they prefer thai girls.[/QUOTE]Good points by Bubba Boy and Junior.

With regard to the quoted assertions by Sperto I will like to add that it is easier to pick up Brazilian women if you speak Portuguese. I have had opportunities to pick up non-pros in Brazil, in the malls, supermarkets, eating places, etc. whereby they initiate conversation with me but none can speak English and the conversation goes nowhere; a translation app is useless in those circumstances for me; its tiresome to the girls. Its easier for me to pick up regular girls in Thailand as many speak English.

I like Brazilian music and culture, so here Brazil over Thailand.

One must keep in mind also that Thailand is much more than Bangkok and Pattaya. Thailand can match and probably, in the views of the numerous tourists, surpass Brazil in terms of jungle, beaches, adventure, etc.

It is easy to accept the fact that Thailand is better for someone on a tight budget and perhaps Brazil might be better for the owner of a bulging purse.

[QUOTE=Kib123;2159795]Too bony for my taste.[/QUOTE]You might like the fat version of Thais Oliveira. [URL]https://www.instagram.com/thaisoliveiraofficial/?hl=en[/URL].

Check out this link, I am sure it is to your liking. [URL]https://www.instagram.com/thaisplusoliveira/[/URL].

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2159719]No comparison. Its all personal. Thai girls don't turn me on but I love thai food! LOL.

I love Brazil warts and all. [/QUOTE]I hate warts on vaginas, regardless of what country she is from. LooooooooooL.

[QUOTE=Junior;2159846]At the end of the day for me the decision depends on budget constraints. If I were on a tight budget Thailand would be a clear winner, while if money was less of an issue Brazil is a winner for me given my preference for Brazilian ladies and language skills.[/QUOTE]This is the Rio thread, so the regulars in here are surely going to be biased. If we were in a Thailand thread, then I'm sure the vote would easily go to Thailand. Well, I'm going to add my 2 cents. Thailand is a fascinating place. The people, the cuisine, the culture, the religion, the music, the architecture. Hell, even the Muay Thai kickboxing! There's no question that for a westerner like me, Thailand is clearly the more "exotic" place. But on the other hand, I'm just not that attracted to most Asian / Thai women.

Listen, I once went a full 72 hours in Pattaya before I saw a Thai tute who I wanted to fuck! Imagine that? In Pattaya with all of those Thai girls! Can any of us Brazil lovers here imagine something like that happening in the Marvelous City? No way! You see more hotties in one day than you could possibly have LOL! And for me, that makes Brazil, not the most exotic, but the most "erotic" of the two. And as a monger, at the of the day, that's what matters to me.

I know Brazil may have more crime and is more expensive. And to that, I say be safe and you find a way to afford it! Because only the best will do! Do not settle for anything less than the best. And that's Brazil, so you can't not afford it! Where there is sufficient will, there is a way!

[QUOTE=Sperto;2159935]When checking the Brazil thread I noted in the Rio Thread "Last report by: Bubba Boy". For a moment I thought our great Rio Guru was back in the land of bundas. I got myself a long nose. :)[/QUOTE]I moved to the Asian region about 5 years ago. While I would like to mix it up in the land of the Gansta Bundas on a more regular basis it is a 24 hour+ trip each way while just a few hours gets me to places almost as good. Good to see you are still around doing what you do best Sperto.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2159968]You might like the fat version of Thais Oliveira.

Check out this link, I am sure it is to your liking. [URL]https://www.instagram.com/thaisplusoliveira/[/URL].[/QUOTE]What the fuck is she modeling for? I'd still hit it though if I could find the coochie.

[QUOTE=BubbaBoy;2159923] I am prepared to put up with a lot of shit for a great ass...[/QUOTE]Well spokes sir, well spoken!

Hello Boys,

So I heard about something called Maca root, which is prevalent in south america. Its a herbal drug which helps make the cock stiff and produce more sperm.

So is it true? Does it work instantly like Viagra or should it be taken through out the week?

Can I get it online and ship to India?

Please help!

Yes, Peruvian Maca works. You can get it as a cheap powder in many health food stores in Brazil. Just mix a teaspoon into a juice or tea and you will feel the effects in a few hours. However, taken over a few days, you will really be horny.

Also, get some ginseng and tribulus powder.

Prices run about R4 to R10 per 100 grams.

SS.

[QUOTE=AbcCool;2160328]Hello Boys,

So I heard about something called Maca root, which is prevalent in south america. Its a herbal drug which helps make the cock stiff and produce more sperm.

So is it true? Does it work instantly like Viagra or should it be taken through out the week?

Can I get it online and ship to India?

Please help![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kib123;2160217]What the fuck is she modeling for? I'd still hit it though if I could find the coochie.[/QUOTE]She is modeling for plus size magazines. That's why Brazil is the best place to monger. I prefer bony Oliveira over fatty Oliveira.

Flying to Rio tomorrow and am very excited to return to the land of so much joy. I've been reading through the board and think I have a pretty good handle on the Termas and beach activity. But I'm looking for a good list of the cheaper brothels and prives in the Centro and Copocabana, if anyone could point me to the most complete map or list I'd really appreciate it! I'll share my reports as I enjoy the lovely ladies of Rio, of course.

[QUOTE=KashMoney;2160567]Flying to Rio tomorrow and am very excited to return to the land of so much joy. I've been reading through the board and think I have a pretty good handle on the Termas and beach activity. But I'm looking for a good list of the cheaper brothels and prives in the Centro and Copocabana, if anyone could point me to the most complete map or list I'd really appreciate it! I'll share my reports as I enjoy the lovely ladies of Rio, of course.[/QUOTE][URL]https://espacoterapias.com.br/clinicas/?localidade=Centro&estado=rio-de-janeiro[/URL]

[QUOTE=KashMoney;2160567]Flying to Rio tomorrow and am very excited to return to the land of so much joy. I've been reading through the board and think I have a pretty good handle on the Termas and beach activity. But I'm looking for a good list of the cheaper brothels and prives in the Centro and Copocabana, if anyone could point me to the most complete map or list I'd really appreciate it! I'll share my reports as I enjoy the lovely ladies of Rio, of course.[/QUOTE]Same for me, according what I have read here, it seems that 210 is one of the best. Where is it? Is it easy to find?

Are trash clubs Centro and VM open on Sunday?

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Fred8800;2160729]Same for me, according what I have read here, it seems that 210 is one of the best. Where is it? Is it easy to find?

Are trash clubs Centro and VM open on Sunday?

Thank you.[/QUOTE]VM never closes-Sunday is slower but with a rake you can find sth doable.

Centro closes on the weekend except 210 and some ultra trash spots near uruguyana-if you enjoy smoking a 20 pack of Marlboro without lighting up its all yours!

[QUOTE=TheCane;2160036]This is the Rio thread, so the regulars in here are surely going to be biased...[/QUOTE]I'm a total newbie on this forum, so please forgive me for also cluttering up the thread! I lived in Thailand (7 years) and Indonesia (3 years). I've been in Brazil for 7 days on holiday, so take all I say with a grain of salt Feel free to look up my posts in the Thai and Indo forums if anyone is heading there.

I do speak fluent Thai, Indonesian, and average (European) Portuguese, so language barrier is not much of an issue in my case. I will definitely concur that meeting Brazilian (male) friends is already waaaay easier here than in Asia. Indonesia was okay for that, Thailand was pretty much impossible. I've made more dude friends a week than I did in 7 years in Thailand. However, that's not something I really care too much about, since this is all about finding hot women to bang.

As everyone has mentioned, it's all up to personal tastes and I think I'm incurably infected with Yellow Fever. I find myself even seeking out the Asian gals here, when I know that the local stock is objectively beautiful as well. As for safety, I went ten years in Asia with one mugging. Here in Brazil, I've had two 'close calls' in a week. This is not necessarily a knock on Brazil as much as it is a knock on my penchant for getting myself into 'interesting' situations.

Price-wise, Indo takes the cake for value for money, but you'll have to put up with a lot of bullshit (ridiculous traffic, drug-addicted girls, clingy girls, etc). All of this applies to Thailand on a lesser scale. In Brazil, I've found the girls to be less mercenary and more interested in the fun of it all (I'm sure I've still got rose-colored glasses on, though). Price is higher, as it is for pretty much everything here.

To sum up this amazingly pointless post, I'll just say that both Thailand and Brazil (and Indonesia, if you can handle it) are well worth visiting for our particular hobby. As I've read through this board, I know that there is a pining for the 'good old days' -- same in both of the other locations -- but it's a pretty amazing thing that we are able to indulge these fantasies at all in this day and age. I luckily have a bit of spending cash and no familial attachments of any kind, so my preference for Asia is probably due to me landing there first ten years ago at the ripe old age of 23. If it had happened differently, I can definitely see myself falling in love with this culture (and the deliciousness of the local fauna).

First class report. Thank you.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2159610]I'm in a quandary over the 2 best mongering destinations in the world. I know the issue has been debated ad nauseam. Being in Brazil now for the past 2 months I must say I'm having a great time and could just imagine how fantastic it would be retiring here. So, should I choose Brazil over Thailand? Here is my latest tally:

Food........................... Brazil (this is personal taste, I prefer Brazilian fare over Thai).

Safety........................ Thailand (crime is a big problem here).

Accommodation.......... Thailand.

Groceries.................... Thailand (heck groceries here are more expensive than back home in the good ole US).

Women....................... Brazil (hands down the hottest women in the world).

Working girls service.... Brazil (again hands down the best in the world).

Its a tie?[/QUOTE]What is your thought on mongering in Switzerland and Germany? What's the difference between Brazil and Switzerland? Japan and Australia are developed countries and it's easy to find local pros. As I can see in your posts, you seem to be experienced in mongering in many countries.

Today I return from Europe and take some really nice memories with me. Some FKK be*es, stylish independents, fake profiles with girls that only exist on the cover of magazines and the famouses FKK in Germany where I heard the word "schatzi" and "zimmah" so many times that they still play in my mind on and on and on. In FKK I experienced a threesome, with some Russians that did not know I speak their language, which was a bit awkward. Only one stayed in my mind, and, although a bit pricey she made me think this rare species will not vanish over the Earth. She advertises herself in top escort babes as Melita, and she is definitely the girl in the pictures. She is on the page in Bucharest, and one of the few who speaks perfect German. After visiting some "hot"spots in Europe, after trying even an FKK in Germany_Oase or something, after visiting some sites where obviously all the girls use fake pictures, most of them the same, but in different continents at the same time I found one that really matched with my tastes. She speaks good English, and french and she has one of the best services I ever experienced. Here is the link http:[URL]topescortbabes.com[/URL]/ m / escort / Melita_272048.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2161672]What is your thought on mongering in Switzerland and Germany? What's the difference between Brazil and Switzerland? Japan and Australia are developed countries and it's easy to find local pros. As I can see in your posts, you seem to be experienced in mongering in many countries.[/QUOTE]I have never been to Japan or Australia so cannot speak to mongering there. Coincidentally, I sessioned a Japanese named Horooni in Tangara (SP) last week. I have sessioned other Japanese women in Hong Kong and have had good experiences with all so a trip to Japan should be on the cards although I have read that it is not easy there for Western mongers. I have been to Switzerland but never mongered there as the visits were in an earlier incarnation with a former significant other.

Now on to Germany where I will be from the beginning of next month. Germany and particularly Frankfurt is currently my favorite destination. The FKKs have the hottest working girls on the planet, yes hotter than Brazil, however, Brazil is better in terms of the girl's performance. Germany has not figured into my reckoning for retirement purposes because of the winter. However, I would rate Germany as being the best mongering destination in the world and is where I always spend my vacation time.

Indeed I have mongered throughout the US, the Caribbean, Central America, South America, South East Asia and parts of Europe. After Germany in Europe I would rate the Czech Republic. Austria is reputed to be good but I have not sessioned there; last hobbied in Amsterdam 24 years ago; it is now a shadow of its former self although the RLD has always been a tourist trap. SEA was way bettter in the 80's and 90's when I used to visit there but Thailand still rules. Thailand was dethroned in my opinion by ChangPing, China, for about a decade or so but the crackdown took care of that. I also had phenomenal experiences in Geylang, Singapore but that has significantly declined. Indonesia was also great for me but seems to be undergoing a metamorphosis.

For me the major mongering destinations in the world today are Germany, Brazil and Thailand.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2161672]What is your thought on mongering in Switzerland and Germany? What's the difference between Brazil and Switzerland? Japan and Australia are developed countries and it's easy to find local pros. As I can see in your posts, you seem to be experienced in mongering in many countries.[/QUOTE]There is a great post by PayForIt just posted in he Germany Oase FKK thread that provides some good perspective on this question. I would only add, that I agree the German FKK is probably top king of the world experience. And I enjoyed the brothel scene in Spain. I did Felina but understand others are good.

If FS is key to your experience then Japan is definitely not best. But if you like BBBJ Japan may be the best around. I personally recommend Tokyo Hentai Club which is Gaijin friendly and the girls are really pretty (if you like Asian and Asian mixes).

[QUOTE=Turgid;2161905]I have never been to Japan or Australia so cannot speak to mongering there. Coincidentally, I sessioned a Japanese named Horooni in Tangara (SP) last week. I have sessioned other Japanese women in Hong Kong and have had good experiences with all so a trip to Japan should be on the cards although I have read that it is not easy there for Western mongers. I have been to Switzerland but never mongered there as the visits were in an earlier incarnation with a former significant other.

Now on to Germany where I will be from the beginning of next month. Germany and particularly Frankfurt is currently my favorite destination. The FKKs have the hottest working girls on the planet, yes hotter than Brazil, however, Brazil is better in terms of the girl's performance. Germany has not figured into my reckoning for retirement purposes because of the winter. However, I would rate Germany as being the best mongering destination in the world and is where I always spend my vacation time.

Indeed I have mongered throughout the US, the Caribbean, Central America, South America, South East Asia and parts of Europe. After Germany in Europe I would rate the Czech Republic. Austria is reputed to be good but I have not sessioned there; last hobbied in Amsterdam 24 years ago; it is now a shadow of its former self although the RLD has always been a tourist trap. SEA was way bettter in the 80's and 90's when I used to visit there but Thailand still rules. Thailand was dethroned in my opinion by ChangPing, China, for about a decade or so but the crackdown took care of that. I also had phenomenal experiences in Geylang, Singapore but that has significantly declined. Indonesia was also great for me but seems to be undergoing a metamorphosis.

For me the major mongering destinations in the world today are Germany, Brazil and Thailand.[/QUOTE]Japan is a good place to monger, there are many Soaplands but they are not all gaijin friendly. It is more expensive than Thailand, Brazil and Germany, one hour session costs 300 dollar. I find Japanese women to be the most beautiful in Asia. They are more open to sex.

Check out this video, [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP739zO3g70[/URL] there are so many soaplands but they are not all gaijin friendly unless you speak Japanese. It is in Yoshiwara the red light district of Tokyo. Girls working out there are mostly Japanese. The only foreign women working in soaplands are European. Most girls are in their twenties.

P.S. My question was only about the difference between Switzerland, Germany and Brazil and also to know if local pros are easy to find like in Japan and Australia.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2161905]
Now on to Germany where I will be from the beginning of next month. Germany and particularly Frankfurt is currently my favorite destination. The FKKs have the hottest working girls on the planet, yes hotter than Brazil, however, Brazil is better in terms of the girl's performance. Germany has not figured into my reckoning for retirement purposes because of the winter. However, I would rate Germany as being the best mongering destination in the world and is where I always spend my vacation time.

Indeed I have mongered throughout the US, the Caribbean, Central America, South America, South East Asia and parts of Europe. After Germany in Europe I would rate the Czech Republic. Austria is reputed to be good but I have not sessioned there; last hobbied in Amsterdam 24 years ago; it is now a shadow of its former self although the RLD has always been a tourist trap. SEA was way bettter in the 80's and 90's when I used to visit there but Thailand still rules. Thailand was dethroned in my opinion by ChangPing, China, for about a decade or so but the crackdown took care of that. I also had phenomenal experiences in Geylang, Singapore but that has significantly declined. Indonesia was also great for me but seems to be undergoing a metamorphosis.

For me the major mongering destinations in the world today are Germany, Brazil and Thailand.[/QUOTE]About Europe: Germany is good with the hot chicks from Eastern Europe (90%+ Romanian) and reasonable rates, but GFE is hard to come by, even from German providers. Austrians give much better GFE than Germans, but their FKK clubs are lousy, so the 50 euro quality pussy is not easy get. The French provide the best GFE in Europe (never found more per capita load swallowers anywhere, except maybe the US), but mongering in France is a real pain in the ass. Amsterdam is mostly ripoff artists from primarily Romania. I've had good luck with Italians, but not enough sample size. Turkey is a hit or miss, but when you hit, it is heaven.

Colombia wins in my limited experience for best GFE-price ratio. I reserve my judgment of Rio until my first trip next month.

Jojo Todynho (the most curvy woman in Brazil) is mad. Somebody used her photos on a international prostitution site.
[URL]https://www.metropoles.com/vida-e-estilo/celebridades/jojo-todynho-tem-fotos-publicadas-em-site-de-massagem-sexual[/URL]

[QUOTE=Kib123;2161994]About Europe: Germany is good with the hot chicks from Eastern Europe (90%+ Romanian) and reasonable rates, but GFE is hard to come by, even from German providers. Austrians give much better GFE than Germans, but their FKK clubs are lousy, so the 50 euro quality pussy is not easy get. The French provide the best GFE in Europe (never found more per capita load swallowers anywhere, except maybe the US), but mongering in France is a real pain in the ass. Amsterdam is mostly ripoff artists from primarily Romania. I've had good luck with Italians, but not enough sample size. Turkey is a hit or miss, but when you hit, it is heaven.

Colombia wins in my limited experience for best GFE-price ratio. I reserve my judgment of Rio until my first trip next month.[/QUOTE]I don't find Romanian women attractive. The best GFE I got was in Russia and Brazil. Not interested to fuck Romanian women in Germany. Many Romanian women pretend to be Spanish or Italian because their reputation is besmirched.

Colombian women suck, I prefer Brazilians over them, let alone Colombian women living in the USA, they have gold pussy syndrome unlike Brazilians living out there. Colombian women are more likely to change when they settle in another country. Turkey really sucks when it comes to mongering, many brothels are scams and it is very expensive to fuck hooker pussy in Turkey, for a developing country. It is more miss than hit.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2162011]Jojo Todynho (the most curvy woman in Brazil) is mad. Somebody used her photos on a international prostitution site.
[URL]https://www.metropoles.com/vida-e-estilo/celebridades/jojo-todynho-tem-fotos-publicadas-em-site-de-massagem-sexual[/URL][/QUOTE]She looks like the ones working in VM. This is why she found her pictures on a prostitution website.

Monday:

Got to Centaurus at about 5:30 pm to meet a wingman. As soon as you enter reception, I noticed a handful of girls in the waiting area. Two approached me at reception, which is the usual practice for girls that are generally not that "busy". Learned from reception that my friend (married man) had already come and gone. The receptionist were very transparent see the if I already knew the establishment and remember the prices. They then explained I could just pay all upfront or just the entrance first and later the room and girl. Chose the latter. After that I went to the changing room and the two girls got my robe and flip-flops. I had to get rid of them so went to take a shower.

I made my way to the main bar area and there may have been 10 girls coming in and out. The two that I previously met did not give up easily but I outlasted them. By 8:30 there were around 40-50 girls and I would say 80% were hot. I noticed there the girls consistently try to up sell by convincing you to take two of them and also buying drinks. The bartenders make the best and strongest caipirinhas, which I feel is also part of their scheme, but makes sense. Anyway I did not partake because I was spent. I will definitely be back the talent was so high which was surprising especially for a day right after a holiday. Here is an idea of the updated pricing. I had a side trip booked to Sao Paulo to go to Scandallo but I will probably take the sunk cost and pass. Centaurus has what I need.

[QUOTE=Safado69;2162089]Monday:

Got to Centaurus at about 5:30 pm to meet a wingman. As soon as you enter reception, I noticed a handful of girls in the waiting area. Two approached me at reception, which is the usual practice for girls that are generally not that "busy". Learned from reception that my friend (married man) had already come and gone. The receptionist were very transparent see the if I already knew the establishment and remember the prices. They then explained I could just pay all upfront or just the entrance first and later the room and girl. Chose the latter. After that I went to the changing room and the two girls got my robe and flip-flops. I had to get rid of them so went to take a shower.

I made my way to the main bar area and there may have been 10 girls coming in and out. The two that I previously met did not give up easily but I outlasted them. By 8:30 there were around 40-50 girls and I would say 80% were hot. I noticed there the girls consistently try to up sell by convincing you to take two of them and also buying drinks. The bartenders make the best and strongest caipirinhas, which I feel is also part of their scheme, but makes sense. Anyway I did not partake because I was spent. I will definitely be back the talent was so high which was surprising especially for a day right after a holiday. Here is an idea of the updated pricing. I had a side trip booked to Sao Paulo to go to Scandallo but I will probably take the sunk cost and pass. Centaurus has what I need.[/QUOTE]Is it hourly price?

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2161930]There is a great post by PayForIt just posted in he Germany Oase FKK thread that provides some good perspective on this question. I would only add, that I agree the German FKK is probably top king of the world experience. And I enjoyed the brothel scene in Spain. I did Felina but understand others are good.

If FS is key to your experience then Japan is definitely not best. But if you like BBBJ Japan may be the best around. I personally recommend Tokyo Hentai Club which is Gaijin friendly and the girls are really pretty (if you like Asian and Asian mixes).[/QUOTE]I have experience in mongering in Japan though I don't often monger. I am living in Tokyo right now. I have never been to Tokyo Hentai Club, I've never been there because some friends of mine told me many girls are not Japanese. Soapland experience is very good for first timers, expats and experienced people, girls are Japanese and young. , it is very safe. Japan is the best country in Asia in terms of sex. Girls are more open to offering BBBJ. Costs are more expensive because Japan is as expensive as the USA and most people earn a good living. Sex is a cultural thing in Japan. Unfortunately I can't monger in Japan, as I live with my partner and I don't have yellow fever.

My question was to know the difference between Germany and Brazil and how good the performance is out there? Most girls offer BBBJ like in Brazil? I get the feeling there are not as many local pros in Germany as in Australia and Japan. My question was in regard to Switzerland and Germany.

[QUOTE=Kib123;2161994]...........Colombia wins in my limited experience for best GFE-price ratio. I reserve my judgment of Rio until my first trip next month.[/QUOTE]If GFE is important to you then you will love Brazil. I have never been refused a whatsapp contact from a provider. They are always willing to meet you outside of the establishment. I only take whatsapp info from garotas who can speak English but have never contacted any as there are so many working girls yet to be sampled.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2161933]Japan is a good place to monger, there are many Soaplands but they are not all gaijin friendly. It is more expensive than Thailand, Brazil and Germany, one hour session costs 300 dollar. I find Japanese women to be the most beautiful in Asia. They are more open to sex.

Check out this video, [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP739zO3g70[/URL] there are so many soaplands but they are not all gaijin friendly unless you speak Japanese. It is in Yoshiwara the red light district of Tokyo. Girls working out there are mostly Japanese. The only foreign women working in soaplands are European. Most girls are in their twenties.

P.S. My question was only about the difference between Switzerland, Germany and Brazil and also to know if local pros are easy to find like in Japan and Australia.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info on Japan which I will try to visit in the not too distant future. It will be a short visit as it is so expensive.

P.S. My post was not an answer to your question but for the information of all ISG readers.

The great thing with Germany is the comfort in the FKK clubs. To be able to relax and mingle with maybe 80-120 naked young women. In this respect the FKKs are better than the Termas that are smaller and offer less relax areas. Regarding looks I would say it is a very close call between Germany and Brazil. I happen to like latinas and not so much Romanians which means I favour Brazil looks-wise. But objectively speaking should be very even-steven.

In terms of service and attitude there is no comparison. Brazil is in another league. In the FKKs GFE is quite rare unless you are a regular or visit the smaller clubs. For every really good session you will meet one or two sharks / clock watchers. In Brazil the average quality of a session is at level with the very best ones in Germany. Another advantage with Brazil is that there is plenty to see and do outside of mongering and regular girls are available. Only way Germany could beat Brazil in my opinion is for someone who strongly favours blondes or european looking girls and don't care too much about the chemistry or attitude during the session.

[QUOTE=Ibrahimovic;2162281]The great thing with Germany is the comfort in the FKK clubs. To be able to relax and mingle with maybe 80-120 naked young women. In this respect the FKKs are better than the Termas that are smaller and offer less relax areas. Regarding looks I would say it is a very close call between Germany and Brazil. I happen to like latinas and not so much Romanians which means I favour Brazil looks-wise. But objectively speaking should be very even-steven.

In terms of service and attitude there is no comparison. Brazil is in another league. In the FKKs GFE is quite rare unless you are a regular or visit the smaller clubs. For every really good session you will meet one or two sharks / clock watchers. In Brazil the average quality of a session is at level with the very best ones in Germany. Another advantage with Brazil is that there is plenty to see and do outside of mongering and regular girls are available. Only way Germany could beat Brazil in my opinion is for someone who strongly favours blondes or european looking girls and don't care too much about the chemistry or attitude during the session.[/QUOTE]Thanks for this contrast. I am coming to SP soon and hope to prove you right. I do love Ro-girls from a looks POV and have been lucky with the service. But really looking forward to legendary BR-Girl service!

[QUOTE=Komo753;2162095]Is it hourly price?[/QUOTE]The first photos was 40 minutes.

CASH.

160 entrance.

140 room.

320 girl.

620 total.

CREDIT CARD.

180 entrance.

160 room.

385 girl.

725 total.

The second was 1 hour:

CASH.

160 entrance.

180 room.

640 girl.

980 total.

CREDIT CARD.

180 entrance.

200 room.

770 girl.

1150 total.

[QUOTE=Ibrahimovic;2162281]The great thing with Germany is the comfort in the FKK clubs. To be able to relax and mingle with maybe 80-120 naked young women. In this respect the FKKs are better than the Termas that are smaller and offer less relax areas. Regarding looks I would say it is a very close call between Germany and Brazil. I happen to like latinas and not so much Romanians which means I favour Brazil looks-wise. But objectively speaking should be very even-steven.

In terms of service and attitude there is no comparison. Brazil is in another league. In the FKKs GFE is quite rare unless you are a regular or visit the smaller clubs. For every really good session you will meet one or two sharks / clock watchers. In Brazil the average quality of a session is at level with the very best ones in Germany. Another advantage with Brazil is that there is plenty to see and do outside of mongering and regular girls are available. Only way Germany could beat Brazil in my opinion is for someone who strongly favours blondes or european looking girls and don't care too much about the chemistry or attitude during the session.[/QUOTE]I don't really like Germany, that's why I've never mongered in Germany but I stopped over in Germany many times but never set foot in Germany outside of the airport but I love Switzerland, there are many things to see. I would like to try to monger in Switzerland though I am not interested to fuck Romanian women in Germany or Switzerland. Concerning sex quality, I find Russian and Japanese women to be level with Brazilian women in terms of GFE. I love blond women. I find Russians to be more Blonde and whiter than any girl in the world, they have no freckles, Even Asian Russians are very hot, they look Eurasian. That's why I like to travel to Russian Far East. There are Caucasian and Eurasian women in abundance out there. I love Vladivostok and some other cities. The only thing I hate about Russia is the weather. It is not as hot as Brazil, that's why I love Brazil, I love everything about Brazil except for Hotel and Restaurant service. Russian people are very friendly in any cities other than Moscow and Saint Petersburg. And more family. Girl mentality differ from country to country, all depends on how their men behave. The harder the men the softer the women. To me, the best GFE is found in Brazil, Russia and Japan. I find Brazilians to be way different than other Latinos and easy to talk to. I prefer Brazil in terms of sexiness and Russia in terms of beauty. That doesn't mean there are no sexy women in Russia and no beautiful women in Brazil. I find beauty and sexiness in both countries.

Conclusion: Brazil is a good mongering place with many things to do outside of mongering. Brazil is a good country to meet people and visit different places.

[QUOTE=Safado69;2162301]The first photos was 40 minutes.

CASH.

160 entrance.

140 room.

320 girl.

620 total.

CREDIT CARD.

180 entrance.

160 room.

385 girl.

725 total.

The second was 1 hour:

CASH.

160 entrance..[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info, now it's clear.

[QUOTE=Safado69;2162301]The first photos was 40 minutes.

CASH.

160 entrance.

140 room.

320 girl.

620 total.

CREDIT CARD.

180 entrance.

160 room.

385 girl.

725 total.

The second was 1 hour:

CASH.

160 entrance.

180 room.

640 girl.

980 total.

CREDIT CARD.

180 entrance.

200 room.

770 girl.

1150 total.[/QUOTE]Love the way the Brazilians do their math. The additional 20 minutes is as much as the first 40 minutes (girl). I have noticed the same thing in gpface, where I check the escort prices. First hour 300,. 1,5 hours 350 and 2 hours 500. One lady, whose photo I posted in February, charged 1 hour 300, 2 hours 500, 3 hours 500 and 4 hours 500.

[QUOTE=Safado69;2162301]The first photos was 40 minutes.

CASH.

160 entrance.

140 room.

320 girl.

620 total.

CREDIT CARD.

180 entrance.

160 room.

385 girl.

725 total.

The second was 1 hour:

CASH.

160 entrance.

180 room.

640 girl.

980 total.

CREDIT CARD.

180 entrance.

200 room.

770 girl.

1150 total.[/QUOTE]Wow, last time I set foot in that place, probably in 05 or 06, it was $310 R total. That was high for that time, now it would be a bargain, LOL.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2162220]Thanks for the info on Japan which I will try to visit in the not too distant future. It will be a short visit as it is so expensive.

P.S. My post was not an answer to your question but for the information of all ISG readers.[/QUOTE]Anyway, thanks for the useful info you provided. I thought the message was intended for me. Have you ever sessioned with some German hookers during your visits to Germany? Or only with migrant hookers? Uncovered blowjob is as common as in Brazil? I am not into anal sex. I am more into kiss and uncovered blowjob.

P.S: when I travel to a country, I am only interested in its their local pussy and food.

[QUOTE=Safado69;2162301]The first photos was 40 minutes.

CASH.

160 entrance.

140 room.

320 girl.

620 total..[/QUOTE]Thank you for providing a price list. Have you been to other Termas recently? It would be nice of you if you can provide a price list from other termas. If you don't mind sharing it.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2162327]I don't really like Germany, that's why I've never mongered in Germany but I stopped over in Germany many times but never set foot in Germany outside of the airport but I love Switzerland, there are many things to see. I would like to try to monger in Switzerland though I am not interested to fuck Romanian women in Germany or Switzerland. Concerning sex quality, I find Russian and Japanese women to be level with Brazilian women in terms of GFE. I love blond women. I find Russians to be more Blonde and whiter than any girl in the world, they have no freckles, Even Asian Russians are very hot, they look Eurasian. That's why I like to travel to Russian Far East. There are Caucasian and Eurasian women in abundance out there. I love Vladivostok and some other cities. The only thing I hate about Russia is the weather. It is not as hot as Brazil, that's why I love Brazil, I love everything about Brazil except for Hotel and Restaurant service. Russian people are very friendly in any cities other than Moscow and Saint Petersburg. And more family. Girl mentality differ from country to country, all depends on how their men behave. The harder the men the softer the women. To me, the best GFE is found in Brazil, Russia and Japan. I find Brazilians to be way different than other Latinos and easy to talk to. I prefer Brazil in terms of sexiness and Russia in terms of beauty. That doesn't mean there are no sexy women in Russia and no beautiful women in Brazil. I find beauty and sexiness in both countries.

Conclusion: Brazil is a good mongering place with many things to do outside of mongering. Brazil is a good country to meet people and visit different places.[/QUOTE]Now that I have been to both separated by nearly 10 years (2007 in Europe / Germany / Ukraine) and 2016 in Brazil, Sao Paulo) I would tend to agree with you. Though since I speak very few words of Spanish and even fewer of Portuguese; I find speaking to European women easier because many speak English. That also means they are easier to make connections with before you go. I visited a few women while I was in Germany and another in Ukraine that I met online. Unfortunately I only had sex with the Ukrainian woman, all were looking for relationships which I am looking for as well, funny I've been saying that since I've been on this thing (2005?

They ended up being nobody wanted to be with long term, mainly because they had children from previous relationships. The one I would have let the rule go down in flames to rejected me, oh well.

9 years later I FINALLY visit Brazil. Well before I end entered the country I was nearly broke from missing my connecting flight in Mexico City. So I had to find some cheaper options and I did find them.

Anyway because of the language barrier I need another visit because I spent 27 days in Sao Paulo and largely came up empty. I didn't know the Tinder app worked in Brazil either until I left but I also had data problems. I spent quite a bit of time with the owner and management of the hostel I stayed at OUTSIDE of the hostel. I met lots of people that way, so as I said I'm looking forward to going back though it's been a couple of years now.

Two things need to happen with Brazil and regular women. I either need to learn Portuguese or find chicks that speak English; I think the latter is a bit harder but not too hard to be honest. Though I would be eliminating lots of women from the process who don't speak English.

As for looks -.

You can find every color in the rainbow in Brazil. Even if you like European women, a friend of mine is blonde, German descent, born in Brazil. She looks like any attractive white chick you find in the US or EU.

I found Black women in Brazil that look better than the other 99% in the diaspora, maybe Ethiopians might give them a challenge overall. They certainly look better than the vast majority of Black women in the United States on average and I didn't get up to Bahia yet.

I love Latinas and I love White women, so. Brazil is a natural step IMHO it has both. Europe has both and Germany's economy attracts lots of people from around the EU. It's not unusual to find Spanish, Portuguese and Eastern European women in the EU overall and I saw lots of Russian women in Berlin.

Lots of Polish, Latvian, Czech and Hungarian women in the UK too.

I do like German FKK's, I haven't experienced a Terma yet there really aren't any in Sao Paulo that I know of.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2162220]Thanks for the info on Japan which I will try to visit in the not too distant future. It will be a short visit as it is so expensive.

P.S. My post was not an answer to your question but for the information of all ISG readers.[/QUOTE]If you're a Caucasian, flirt a lot with Japanese women. They are very receptive to flirting with taller, foreign men. They are shy, but open-minded sexually. Don't expect them to initiate flirting, but certainly look for a glance or a smile. You will strike out some, but they are very polite about it.

I am Caucasian and I was surprised how easy it was to meet up with Japanese women. I can't speak to how they react to other ethnicities.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2162715]If you're a Caucasian, flirt a lot with Japanese women. They are very receptive to flirting with taller, foreign men. They are shy, but open-minded sexually. Don't expect them to initiate flirting, but certainly look for a glance or a smile. You will strike out some, but they are very polite about it.

I am Caucasian and I was surprised how easy it was to meet up with Japanese women. I can't speak to how they react to other ethnicities.[/QUOTE]I am living in Japan, I haven't dated any Japanese woman since I came back from my mongering in Brazil, as I am in a relationship with an American expat. I am on the verge of quitting her. That's the last time I'll put myself in a relationship with a woman. Holy shit I haven't fucked other women since I mongered in Brazil. If that continues that way I will end up being a monk. I can't wait to be back in Brazil and monger for 6 months. I don't know why I don't have yellow fever. It is cheaper to travel from Tokyo to Thailand. But I have never mongered in Thailand.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2162594]Thank you for providing a price list. Have you been to other Termas recently? It would be nice of you if you can provide a price list from other termas. If you don't mind sharing it.[/QUOTE]Tuesday night was pretty slow many girls still away on Easter Break. There is a promotion after reaching a certain amount of loyalty points you get a free entrance. Otherwise entrance is 110 reals.

Damage is as follows:

40 minutes all in: 470 regular room / 530 suite.

1 hour all in: 610 regular room / 640 suite.

Right now at Monte Carlo there is a girl of Japanese origin. Her name is Jady / Jade. I had actually met her the other night but got the "bind date" set up from her friend this afternoon.

Incredible body, skills and positive energy. Would definitely repeat. 1 hour for 350 and she didn't watch the clock. Went to MC.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2162715]If you're a Caucasian, flirt a lot with Japanese women. They are very receptive to flirting with taller, foreign men. They are shy, but open-minded sexually. Don't expect them to initiate flirting, but certainly look for a glance or a smile. You will strike out some, but they are very polite about it.

I am Caucasian and I was surprised how easy it was to meet up with Japanese women. I can't speak to how they react to other ethnicities.[/QUOTE]I have only ever sessioned 2 Japanese women, the most recent last week in Sao Paulo. She was a good change from the other Brazilians I have sessioned here, they are much more energetic and vocal. She was subdued but in a loving way, very affectionate and endearing. If she is an example of what I can expect in Japan then Tokyo here I come!

[QUOTE=Safado69;2162759]Tuesday night was pretty slow many girls still away on Easter Break. There is a promotion after reaching a certain amount of loyalty points you get a free entrance. Otherwise entrance is 110 reals.

Damage is as follows:

40 minutes all in: 470 regular room / 530 suite.

1 hour all in: 610 regular room / 640 suite.[/QUOTE]Do the girls still wear street clothes in MC. They did the last time I was there and I fhated it.

[QUOTE=DJFourMoney;2162608]Now that I have been to both separated by nearly 10 years (2007 in Europe / Germany / Ukraine) and 2016 in Brazil, Sao Paulo) I would tend to agree with you. Though since I speak very few words of Spanish and even fewer of Portuguese; I find speaking to European women easier because many speak English. That also means they are easier to make connections with before you go. I visited a few women while I was in Germany and another in Ukraine that I met online. Unfortunately I only had sex with the Ukrainian woman, all were looking for relationships which I am looking for as well, funny I've been saying that since I've been on this thing (2005?

They ended up being nobody wanted to be with long term, mainly because they had children from previous relationships. The one I would have let the rule go down in flames to rejected me, oh well.

9 years later I FINALLY visit Brazil. Well before I end entered the country I was nearly broke from missing my connecting flight in Mexico City. So I had to find some cheaper options and I did find them.

Anyway because of the language barrier I need another visit because I spent 27 days in Sao Paulo and largely came up empty. I didn't know the Tinder app worked in Brazil either until I left but I also had data problems. I spent quite a bit of time with the owner and management of the hostel I stayed at OUTSIDE of the hostel. I met lots of people that way, so as I said I'm looking forward to going back though it's been a couple of years now.

Two things need to happen with Brazil and regular women. I either need to learn Portuguese or find chicks that speak English; I think the latter is a bit harder but not too hard to be honest. Though I would be eliminating lots of women from the process who don't speak English.

As for looks -.

You can find every color in the rainbow in Brazil. Even if you like European women, a friend of mine is blonde, German descent, born in Brazil. She looks like any attractive white chick you find in the US or EU..[/QUOTE]You don't really need to speak Portuguese to enjoy Brazil. Many people enjoy their mongering experience without speaking any word of Portuguese. Termas are very good, My favorite one is 4 by 4 because the vibe is better. I plan to go back to Brazil in July or August and stay 6 months. I will monger in Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro. I do speak Portuguese because that's the language I spoke at home. There are some situations in which it is better to pretend not to speak or understand Portuguese.

Next time you fly down to Brazil, try Rio de Janeiro. There are good things in both cities. You have to try a terma at least once in your life. We only have one life. Don't miss out on it.

I ve never been interested in mongering in Germany because most providers are immigrants. When I monger in a country I want to taste local girls and food. Neither did I get up to Bahia. Maybe someday.

In general, I don't find black women attractive regardless of where they are from. I am more into European and Mediterranean looking women followed by Eurasians but I also fuck girls of other ethnicities. Brazil is good because you find girls for every taste. I love Japanese women's personality but I am not physically attracted to them. European countries are stable economies and boring to live in.

I think every man must try Brazil once in their life. Brazil has many things to offer.

Thanks for sharing your opinion.

[QUOTE=Safado69;2162826]Right now at Monte Carlo there is a girl of Japanese origin. Her name is Jady / Jade. I had actually met her the other night but got the "bind date" set up from her friend this afternoon.

Incredible body, skills and positive energy. Would definitely repeat. 1 hour for 350 and she didn't watch the clock. Went to MC.[/QUOTE]Very cute, Thanks for sharing. She doesn't look like the Japanese women living in Japan. I find her more beautiful and sexier. Japanese- Brazilians women are more beautiful than their compatriots in Japan.

Hope you will share more of your current experience. Please keep us updated with termas, (Solarium, Monte Carlo and other Termas in centro).

[QUOTE=Bravo;2162843]Do the girls still wear street clothes in MC. They did the last time I was there and I fhated it.[/QUOTE]Monte Carlo on some day they wear short dresses and other days lingerie or bra and panty sets. I can't say say exactly, definitely not "street clothes".

Correction about Centaurus the manager sent me a text that there are 75 girls working there in total. I stated 40+.

Last night I went to Solarium and there too they are in short dresses some more revealing than others. When you are ready to session with the girl she will take your key and leave you in the bar. When she returns she is wearing lingerie and a negligee to cover up. Pretty good night starting to like this place. Did a 40 minute session with a favorite. There was a hot Venezuelan chica forget the name. Watch out for this practice that I don't like. The girls ask you to buy them a coffee (7 reals) when the house should provide them free coffee. Why they pass that on to the customers is pretty cheap imo.

Prices:

110 ENTRANCE.

40 minutes 545 CC or 505 cash.

1 hour 730 CC or 675 cash.

1 hour premium site 770 CC or 710 cash.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2162871]Very cute, Thanks for sharing. She doesn't look like the Japanese women living in Japan. I find her more beautiful and sexier. Japanese- Brazilians women are more beautiful than their compatriots in Japan.

Hope you will share more of your current experience. Please keep us updated with termas, (Solarium, Monte Carlo and other Termas in centro).[/QUOTE]A quick look at the japanese brazilian girl. She was more stunning in the terma but still nice in street clothes outside. I really enjoyed her silicone boobs too!

[QUOTE=Safado69;2163028]A quick look at the japanese brazilian girl. She was more stunning in the terma but still nice in street clothes outside. I really enjoyed her silicone boobs too![/QUOTE]Girls are always more stunning in the termas, they always do themselves up to attract our attention. Your posts are short and detailed.

Can't wait to read your other reports on 4 by4, Cancun and Monte Carlo and Solarium. Have you ever been to Monte Carlo during the weekends? Is it as busy on Saturday as some months ago?

Thanks for sharing instructive information and keeping us updated with termas.

[QUOTE=Safado69;2163028]A quick look at the japanese brazilian girl. She was more stunning in the terma but still nice in street clothes outside. I really enjoyed her silicone boobs too![/QUOTE]Many Japanese-Brazilians benefit from some Brazilian genes in their asses. You generally don't find asses like that in Japan. It's a very interesting mix.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2163185]Many Japanese-Brazilians benefit from some Brazilian genes in their asses. You generally don't find asses like that in Japan. It's a very interesting mix.[/QUOTE]There are many asses like that in Japan. Many Brazilians come to Brazil to work in factories for a better life, sorry I meant "for a better pay", what's the purpose of working if you can't enjoy your life. You seem to know Japan. Japanese women fling themselves on any Caucasian dick when they see one, but the Telletubbies's world is over. Japan is the worst nightmare for Caucasians. A country in which people look down on you because you are a Caucasian.

Me as a Gaijin: One day I didn't fill my subway pass and went inside the station to take the subway to the station I wanted to get off in. Damn it was impossible to get out of the arrival station there were many guards so impossible for me to jump over the doorway without getting noticed so I decided to turn myself in to them. I said to myself that it is over for me I am through mongering in Brazil because I am going to end up in the hardest and most disciplined prison that exists in this world for breaking a law. Well when I headed to the guards and told them I lost my pass to exit, I lied to them, I didn't want to say my intention was to dodge a payment. They were talking to each other, saying " let him out of the station, he is just a gaijin, Only gaijins are too stupid to make these kinds of stupid mistakes". The guy said you can exit but next time think of getting yourself a necklace in order for you not to lose your pass. He didn't ask me to buy a walled to put in my pass.

It is possible to pick up Japanese women but not easy like many people think. Many people say the same thing about Brazilian women, they are easy to fuck, I would say Brazilian regulars are as easy as Japanese regulars. That means if you don't know their culture or how to communicate with them you will never fuck a regular in Brazil.

Since the Brazil Economy is really bad and it looks like the currency is dropping. Anybody on the ground can tell me if they are more girls in the termas? Due the to bad economy? I'm surprise rebirth of the famous Help club has not pop up yet. Also never seen a Japanese Brazilian. Sounds like a exotic meal.

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;2163297]Since the Brazil Economy is really bad and it looks like the currency is dropping. Anybody on the ground can tell me if they are more girls in the termas? Due the to bad economy? I'm surprise rebirth of the famous Help club has not pop up yet. Also never seen a Japanese Brazilian.[/QUOTE]
We were missing our currency expert. Actually the result of the bad economy is the opposite, less girls. The locals have less money to spend and the result is less privés and less girls in privées and termas. The last decade shows this result very clearly.
Not being pessimistic, just realistic. There is no reason why a new Help would appear. The city doesn't want it and there much less gringos than it used to be. You might remeber the New Help that opened. Many of you got all excited, but that tiny club faded away quickly.
There are 1,5 millions Brazilians with Japanese origin living in Brazil. A mixture of a Japanese/Brazilian is not hard to find. Try bairro Liberdade in São Paulo.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2163268]There are many asses like that in Japan. Many Brazilians come to Brazil to work in factories for a better life, sorry I meant "for a better pay".[/QUOTE]Sorry I was so tired when I wrote I meant many Brazilians come to Japan to work in factories.

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;2163297]Since the Brazil Economy is really bad and it looks like the currency is dropping. Anybody on the ground can tell me if they are more girls in the termas? Due the to bad economy? I'm surprise rebirth of the famous Help club has not pop up yet. Also never seen a Japanese Brazilian. Sounds like a exotic meal.[/QUOTE]Mongering in Sao Paulo is better than mongering in Rio de Janeiro. There are still many clubs out there and many locals with money. Termas are still good in Rio but there are less than Before. The reason why nobody opens up new brothel is because the police raided many of them and closed them down before the big events happened (world cup and the olympics). Opening up a brothel require much effort in investing money. (bribing the police). Nobody wants to start a business with police hassle. So now people don't believe in investing money in puteiros in Rio.

Conclusion: crisis has nothing to do with puteiro. Low currency is better for economy, that's why China and the USA often lower their currency and Europe had lowered their own currency for years.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2163406]Actually the result of the bad economy is the opposite, less girls. The locals have less money to spend and the result is less privs and less girls in prives and termas. The last decade shows this result very clearly. Not being pessimistic, just realistic.[/QUOTE]That's right. In a bad economy nobody wins. Except for bankruptcy lawyers maybe.

It is possible to pick up Japanese women but not easy like many people think. Many people say the same thing about Brazilian women, they are easy to fuck, I would say Brazilian regulars are as easy as Japanese regulars. That means if you don't know their culture or how to communicate with them you will never fuck a regular in Brazil.

I agree with you 100%.

[QUOTE=Safado69;2163016]

Prices:

110 ENTRANCE.

40 minutes 545 CC or 505 cash.

1 hour 730 CC or 675 cash.

1 hour premium site 770 CC or 710 cash.[/QUOTE]What am I missing? These Termas seem to be rather pricey by any (international or local) standards. What is the draw? Is the experience that uniquely good?

[QUOTE=Kib123;2163894]What am I missing? These Termas seem to be rather pricey by any (international or local) standards. What is the draw? Is the experience that uniquely good?[/QUOTE]It's pricey but you will never get any better service somewhere else aside. That's because they are located in the south of Rio, but if you go to the termas in centro, it is cheaper. The girls are generally hotter in termas though sometimes there are very few girls working in trash clubs. The girls working in trash clubs too are the least popular. Don't waste your time looking for cheap pussies because your time and experience are more important.

Don't forget the sex service in Brazil is better than in any Spanish speaking country and Asia.

[QUOTE=Kib123;2163894]What am I missing? These Termas seem to be rather pricey by any (international or local) standards. What is the draw? Is the experience that uniquely good?[/QUOTE]It's a personal preference for me. If I am going to fly over 10 hours after suffering in sexual prison I want the "best". I figure I earned it. Hygiene, cleanliness and security are important for me. Clinicas / Massage are also good in this respect and cheaper.

Others prefer getting dirty in the gutters of Vila Mimosa or just hunting at Mabs.

[QUOTE=Safado69;2163938]It's a personal preference for me. If I am going to fly over 10 hours after suffering in sexual prison I want the "best". I figure I earned it. Hygiene, cleanliness and security are important for me. Clinicas / Massage are also good in this respect and cheaper.

Others prefer getting dirty in the gutters of Vila Mimosa or just hunting at Mabs.[/QUOTE]Without mentioning that girls are generally hotter in Termas. The problem in Clinicas is that it is not easy to find doable girls.

I agree with you regarding WG, but if you know a little Portuguese you will find out that there are more regular girls that would be happy to meet up for a night. The reason is the down side in the economy and they do it just to have a night out and if that includes staying with the guy too, so what. They still love the tango in the bed.

Chico.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2163406]We were missing our currency expert. Actually the result of the bad economy is the opposite, less girls. The locals have less money to spend and the result is less privs and less girls in prives and termas. The last decade shows this result very clearly.
Not being pessimistic, just realistic. There is no reason why a new Help would appear. The city doesn't want it and there much less gringos than it used to be. You might remeber the New Help that opened. Many of you got all excited, but that tiny club faded away quickly.
There are 1,5 millions brazilians with japanes origin living in Brazil. A mixture of a japonese/brazilian is not hard to find. Try bairro Liberdade in So Paulo.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kib123;2163894]What am I missing? These Termas seem to be rather pricey by any (international or local) standards. What is the draw? Is the experience that uniquely good?[/QUOTE]When it comes to the quality of the girls I would say that Delirio Oriental is just as good and much cheaper at 200 are an hour.

But going to the termas you will have the opportunity to chat and feel up the chicas while having some drinks.

So just as Safado wrote, it's an personal preference, depending on your budget and how long time you are going to stay there.

Mabs had some hot girls but they mostly gave the impression to be hardcore.

I will return to Rio for sure.

After a mediocre session at 4 x4 I decided to head out the door and see what other trouble I could get into. I didn't even turn the corner when I heard music coming from up a flight of stairs and my spider sense told me there was some action to be found. I don't remember exactly the name of the dance club, it was something like Club 81, very close to 4 x4. And I had a blast! I love dancing with girls before a session, I find it's the best way to test the chemistry. The spot wasn't too expensive, no cover, just pay for the drinks. There was a wide variety of girls available. More on the darker side I would put the average between 5-7 and a few 8's. I wound up having a dupla with 1 stunner w huge naturals who was very friendly and one pretty mediocre girl. Total cost with drinks and both girls for an hour came to about 450 Real, and I couldn't have left much happier.

I was suprised to wander into this place and thankful that I stumbled across it. I loved the scene. The club wasn't too big, good amount of girls, good music and lights. All locals and everyone seemed to just want to party. Any one know of the actual name of the place and where I could find other similar spots?

[QUOTE=KashMoney;2164021]After a mediocre session at 4 x4 I decided to head out the door and see what other trouble I could get into. I didn't even turn the corner when I heard music coming from up a flight of stairs and my spider sense told me there was some action to be found. I don't remember exactly the name of the dance club, it was something like Club 81, very close to 4 x4. And I had a blast! I love dancing with girls before a session, I find it's the best way to test the chemistry. The spot wasn't too expensive, no cover, just pay for the drinks. There was a wide variety of girls available. More on the darker side I would put the average between 5-7 and a few 8's. I wound up having a dupla with 1 stunner w huge naturals who was very friendly and one pretty mediocre girl. Total cost with drinks and both girls for an hour came to about 450 Real, and I couldn't have left much happier.

I was suprised to wander into this place and thankful that I stumbled across it. I loved the scene. The club wasn't too big, good amount of girls, good music and lights. All locals and everyone seemed to just want to party. Any one know of the actual name of the place and where I could find other similar spots?[/QUOTE]The club you mention is T81, it is a trash club, the atmosphere is good over there but their rooms are dirty and very small and there is no air conditioning. They never change their bed sheets. There are many similar clubs around. You just need to do some footwork to find these similar spots. T31 and 502 are the similar spots with cleaner rooms.

What was wrong with 4 by4? In 4 by 4, it is possible to dance with girls and to make out with them.

[QUOTE=JuveStadium;2163609]It is possible to pick up Japanese women but not easy like many people think. Many people say the same thing about Brazilian women, they are easy to fuck, I would say Brazilian regulars are as easy as Japanese regulars. That means if you don't know their culture or how to communicate with them you will never fuck a regular in Brazil.

I agree with you 100%.[/QUOTE]Many folks on here mistake semi-pros for regulars.

[QUOTE=KashMoney;2164021]After a mediocre session at 4 x4 I decided to head out the door and see what other trouble I could get into. I didn't even turn the corner when I heard music coming from up a flight of stairs and my spider sense told me there was some action to be found. I don't remember exactly the name of the dance club, it was something like Club 81, very close to 4 x4. And I had a blast! I love dancing with girls before a session, I find it's the best way to test the chemistry. The spot wasn't too expensive, no cover, just pay for the drinks. There was a wide variety of girls available. More on the darker side I would put the average between 5-7 and a few 8's. I wound up having a dupla with 1 stunner w huge naturals who was very friendly and one pretty mediocre girl. Total cost with drinks and both girls for an hour came to about 450 Real, and I couldn't have left much happier.

I was suprised to wander into this place and thankful that I stumbled across it. I loved the scene. The club wasn't too big, good amount of girls, good music and lights. All locals and everyone seemed to just want to party. Any one know of the actual name of the place and where I could find other similar spots?[/QUOTE]Sounds like a good find. Did you see girls leaving with guys? Or was it pretty much set up to fuck in rooms on the premises.

Rio needs a venue where you can dance and hang out with program girls.

[QUOTE=KashMoney;2164021]After a mediocre session at 4 x4 I decided to head out the door and see what other trouble I could get into. I didn't even turn the corner when I heard music coming from up a flight of stairs and my spider sense told me there was some action to be found. I don't remember exactly the name of the dance club, it was something like Club 81, very close to 4 x4. And I had a blast! I love dancing with girls before a session, I find it's the best way to test the chemistry. The spot wasn't too expensive, no cover, just pay for the drinks. There was a wide variety of girls available. More on the darker side I would put the average between 5-7 and a few 8's. I wound up having a dupla with 1 stunner w huge naturals who was very friendly and one pretty mediocre girl. Total cost with drinks and both girls for an hour came to about 450 Real, and I couldn't have left much happier.

I was suprised to wander into this place and thankful that I stumbled across it. I loved the scene. The club wasn't too big, good amount of girls, good music and lights. All locals and everyone seemed to just want to party. Any one know of the actual name of the place and where I could find other similar spots?[/QUOTE]

You went to 81 Rua the Quintanda. I think the name is New Club 81. Similar clubs, and even cheaper, are 119 Rua the Alfandega (near Rua Uruguaiana) and 210 Rua Uruguaiana (on the other side of Avenida Presidente Vargas from 119 Rua the Alfandega). There is also Termas 502 on Rua the Alfandega at the corner of Rio Branco, which is the same price as the one on Quintanda. There a couple more on the same side of Presidente Vargas as 210 Uruguaiana but they were dead the last times I went.

These are not dance clubs. They are brothels, and are for fucking on-site, although you could probably make arrangements to see one outside the club after she finishes or on another day.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2164069]Sounds like a good find. Did you see girls leaving with guys? Or was it pretty much set up to fuck in rooms on the premises.

Rio needs a venue where you can dance and hang out with program girls.[/QUOTE]Mostly it was just guys dancing. My girl did ask me at the end of the night to come home with me but I wasn't feeling it. I love being able to drink and dance with the girls before deciding who to take upstairs, would love to find more places like this!

[QUOTE=Komo753;2164060]The club you mention is T81, it is a trash club, the atmosphere is good over there but their rooms are dirty and very small and there is no air conditioning. They never change their bed sheets. There are many similar clubs around. You just need to do some footwork to find these similar spots. T31 and 502 are the similar spots with cleaner rooms.

What was wrong with 4 by4? In 4 by 4, it is possible to dance with girls and to make out with them.[/QUOTE]Yeah it was kinda trashy, but not terribly so. True about the rooms. 4 x 4 was fun. But the atmosphere was really different. I found at 4 x 4 I could get a girl to come over and make out for a few minutes and give me a few cranks, but then the conversation quickly turned to going upstairs. There was music in the disco but not really too many girls dancing and the stage show was kinda tame, nothing too exciting. Mostly it was just everyone awkwardly looking at each other in the disco. At this trash club I was able to drink and dance for over an hour, my girl was all over me, giving me lap dances on the floor and the atmosphere was more my scene. Nothing against 4 x 4, it was good too, but different scene. I find I have a lot better sessions when I'm able to establish some chemistry on the dance floor with a little bump and grind.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2163915]It's pricey but you will never get any better service somewhere else aside. That's because they are located in the south of Rio, but if you go to the termas in centro, it is cheaper. The girls are generally hotter in termas though sometimes there are very few girls working in trash clubs. The girls working in trash clubs too are the least popular. Don't waste your time looking for cheap pussies because your time and experience are more important.

Don't forget the sex service in Brazil is better than in any Spanish speaking country and Asia.[/QUOTE]How would you rate the Termas experience relative to the German FKK experience? I have FKK'ed rather extensively.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2164016]When it comes to the quality of the girls I would say that Delirio Oriental is just as good and much cheaper at 200 are an hour.

[/QUOTE]The ladies of Delirio look doable, I have added it to my itinerary, thanks!

[QUOTE=Kib123;2164190]How would you rate the Termas experience relative to the German FKK experience? I have FKK'ed rather extensively.[/QUOTE]Better because Romanians can't take a dick LOL.

P.S: I have never been to FKK so I can't reply to that question but what I can tell you is I know many people that mongered in Brazil and Germany, told me that Brazilians are better providers. My experience is limited to Brazil and some European countries. I mongered in Japan last year now I can't monger in Japan for two reasons. I am not really into Asians, and in a relationship at the moment.

What's the standard slang for asking for MSOG in Portuguese?

[QUOTE=Kib123;2164191]The ladies of Delirio look doable, I have added it to my itinerary, thanks![/QUOTE][URL]http://deliriooriental.com.br/[/URL] Girls never look like the picture. They are as doable as girls in the clinicas. If you want good experience just stick to Termas and pick up girls' numbers you want to fuck on Sundays when the termas are closed. . If you plan to stay very long in Brazil then you can be permitted to fuck cheap pussy. Your experience is important fuck money and don't go back to your sex prison with regret. Money will always come back to you but good experience and time can't be recovered. Don't miss out on many occasions. Just take the occasion to fuck the hottest girls. Say to yourself.

You will never fuck any descent girl in the USA for 200 dollars with FS. The only thing you will get is to be arrested by the police for engaging in prostitution.

[QUOTE=Kib123;2164199]What's the standard slang for asking for MSOG in Portuguese?[/QUOTE]Firstly I had to google MSOG = multiple shots on goal.

"Eu queiro gozar varias vezes" = I want to come several times.

[QUOTE=Kib123;2164190]How would you rate the Termas experience relative to the German FKK experience? I have FKK'ed rather extensively.[/QUOTE]I have been to both places atleast on 5 trips multiple days.

I like the Barbie eastern European types. And FKK has a ton of them.

FKK. Most are counting minutes, money talk, poor service. Great atmosphere etc. , poor conversation even with English, (Romanians). There sense of humor is terrible.

Rio. Great companionship. Awesome companionship even with average English. Though the girls are not my specific type. I rate Rio as top of the world in terms of companionship.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2164197]Better because Romanians can't take a dick LOL.

P.S: I have never been to FKK so I can't reply to that question but what I can tell you is I know many people that mongered in Brazil and Germany, told me that Brazilians are better providers. My experience is limited to Brazil and some European countries. I mongered in Japan last year now I can't monger in Japan for two reasons. I am not really into Asians, and in a relationship at the moment.[/QUOTE]If you like European types, Sao Paulo is the best city. There are not many Caucasian providers in Rio de Janeiro. In Sao Paulo, there are many women that are as white as Germans. Most Caucasian Women are in upscale venues. Many people are of German origin.

There are many clubs but the only difference with Termas is you keep your street clothes on. You can find few stunners in other venues (Pretas, Pradas and indigenous). But have never seen any Caucasian stunners in Cheap places.

[QUOTE=KashMoney;2164175]Yeah it was kinda trashy, but not terribly so. True about the rooms. 4 x 4 was fun. But the atmosphere was really different. I found at 4 x 4 I could get a girl to come over and make out for a few minutes and give me a few cranks, but then the conversation quickly turned to going upstairs. There was music in the disco but not really too many girls dancing and the stage show was kinda tame, nothing too exciting. Mostly it was just everyone awkwardly looking at each other in the disco. At this trash club I was able to drink and dance for over an hour, my girl was all over me, giving me lap dances on the floor and the atmosphere was more my scene. Nothing against 4 x 4, it was good too, but different scene. I find I have a lot better sessions when I'm able to establish some chemistry on the dance floor with a little bump and grind.[/QUOTE]I've never had trouble staying with the girls over one hour in 4 by 4. You just have to let them know your objective is to go up to the room with her but you would like to talk to you and get turned on by her before going upstairs. Say you are not like other Brazilians, you are here to fuck but not to only drink, you want to have good time in the club and get good chemistry with a girl you like and you chose her because she appeals to you and looks like a nice girl. Don't worry I will go up with you, I only have one word. If after a while she wants to leave, just grab her by the hand and prevent her leaving you, no no no stay with me, I don't want you away from me, you are my love, if you leave me I'll be very sad and won't get over it, most Brazilian girls like when a man acts that way. Because that's how Brazilians act.

Don't be shy like many gringos and act like a Brazilian. Don't act like you are next to a hot girl for the first time. Show her who the man is. Brazilian women like to get attention from men though many men don't pay attention to them. Many girls test you because they want to know how motivated you are. It is like a game.

I do speak Portuguese, as I spoke at home with family in the past.

I prefer to spend my time in termas even though it is more expensive, most clients in Termas are Brazilians.

I have hooked up with regulars but not easy to get rid of them after you got my dick dunked in her pussy.

I like termas because I can fuck girls and they leave me alone after sex. You pay the girl to leave, not to fuck. Spent most of my time in the termas in Rio and Clubs in Sao Paulo and hooked up with regulars in both cities, more in SP.

Conclusion: Don't act like a western man in Brazil and learn how to play brazilian games. Talk comes before appearance. Money comes before everything but without any good talk you won't get any good chemistry.

I have been to Rio and very comfortable with most Termas. I love it there.

I am going there fo 10 days.

I have also been to SP twice. ABG helped me around all the Massage places.

This time I am out there for 10 days.

I like slim, lighter skinned girls. And the concept of bars / sit in one place and spend the day and have fun is cool. That is why I keep coming back to Rio. MC and Solarium has been my favorite. But what I noticed is for a 10 day stay, the girls most days are the same.

So if I want to mix it up. What other cities can I spend a few days. Right now I am all in Rio for 10 days.

Any guidance.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2164080]You went to 81 Rua the Quintanda. I think the name is New Club 81. Similar clubs, and even cheaper, are 119 Rua the Alfandega (near Rua Uruguaiana) and 210 Rua Uruguaiana (on the other side of Avenida Presidente Vargas from 119 Rua the Alfandega). There is also Termas 502 on Rua the Alfandega at the corner of Rio Branco, which is the same price as the one on Quintanda. There a couple more on the same side of Presidente Vargas as 210 Uruguaiana but they were dead the last times I went.

These are not dance clubs. They are brothels, and are for fucking on-site, although you could probably make arrangements to see one outside the club after she finishes or on another day.[/QUOTE]119 is not for the faint hearted LOL.

You fuck in adjacent rooms where the wall doesn't reach the top so its a moaning competition with music comin through the floor.

Plus if you don't smoke youll def smoke a 20 pack by the time you leave. Had one session here-pretty decent.

It can get alot trashier too in other spots if you int low down dirty and grimey stand up only sex in cubicles like 24. Thats as trash as you can get in Centro. I do know a few other trash clubs with no gringos but I'm going to hold those down for now. Best tip is to shop around-what's hot one day aint the next etc. No rhyme or reason to Rio just do the footwork.

[QUOTE=Kib123;2164199]What's the standard slang for asking for MSOG in Portuguese?[/QUOTE]Here it is: "Vamos".

As long as you can make your shots during regulation game time, you can take as many as you can muster.

[QUOTE=KashMoney;2164175]Yeah it was kinda trashy, but not terribly so. True about the rooms. 4 x 4 was fun. But the atmosphere was really different. I found at 4 x 4 I could get a girl to come over and make out for a few minutes and give me a few cranks, but then the conversation quickly turned to going upstairs. There was music in the disco but not really too many girls dancing and the stage show was kinda tame, nothing too exciting. Mostly it was just everyone awkwardly looking at each other in the disco. At this trash club I was able to drink and dance for over an hour, my girl was all over me, giving me lap dances on the floor and the atmosphere was more my scene. Nothing against 4 x 4, it was good too, but different scene. I find I have a lot better sessions when I'm able to establish some chemistry on the dance floor with a little bump and grind.[/QUOTE]There are no hard and fast rules on how long a termas girl will hang out with you, but generally I agree with Komo perhaps without so much acting like a Brazilian man. Girls know foreigners are there to close the deal upstairs. They are generally relaxed with us and you can signal to them that you are very interested in them. If your head and eyes are bouncing all around the termas, you might make them nervous that you're wasting their time. The termas girls I choose to spend time with are good-looking and confident enough. Some of these girls are so chill that they wanted to hang with me after the deed. After awhile, I get their number and encourage them to go make money. I'm always considerate of these girls need to make money. There are many days though where the girls aren't getting a lot of opportunities to go upstairs or they just don't want back-to-back cabin sessions.

I've caught and released pushy girls on a rare occasion. I remember walking into MC with some buddies on a slow day. They picked their girls quickly. I saw a naturally busty (for Brazil) girl with a curvy ass come down. While I was waiting for my Viagra to kick in and hanging out with her, she starts telling me she couldn't wait. I looked around and I didn't see a whole lot of guys in urgent fuck mode. My buddies were hooked up and on their way to sessions. The girl was hot, but no one was buying. Twenty minutes later I waved her back over. She was decent in the room, but if there was another girl to my liking I would have probably just picked another girl.

[QUOTE=MRusa007;2164577]I have been to Rio and very comfortable with most Termas. I love it there.

I am going there fo 10 days.

I have also been to SP twice. ABG helped me around all the Massage places.

This time I am out there for 10 days.

I like slim, lighter skinned girls. And the concept of bars / sit in one place and spend the day and have fun is cool. That is why I keep coming back to Rio. MC and Solarium has been my favorite. But what I noticed is for a 10 day stay, the girls most days are the same.

So if I want to mix it up. What other cities can I spend a few days. Right now I am all in Rio for 10 days.

Any guidance.[/QUOTE]There are different girls every week. But it depends on the terma. You just have to go to every terma. A 10 day stay is too short to see a difference. Have you ever tried some clubs in Barra the tijuka?

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2164774]Here it is: "Vamos".

As long as you can make your shots during regulation game time, you can take as many as you can muster.[/QUOTE]Obrigado my man! In many places I've been most of the parlors seem to be set up for 1 pop regardless of time booked unless you prenegotiate.

[QUOTE=Kib123;2165349]Obrigado my man! In many places I've been most of the parlors seem to be set up for 1 pop regardless of time booked unless you prenegotiate.[/QUOTE]Make sure you confirm that with the girl before you go up to the room. I've noticed over the past few years that the girls will jump you, take a shower and start getting dressed even though you may have time on the clock for a 2nd session.

[QUOTE=Kib123;2165349]Obrigado my man! In many places I've been most of the parlors seem to be set up for 1 pop regardless of time booked unless you prenegotiate.[/QUOTE]1 hour: 2 shots, that's why you are offered 2 condoms, but make certain that you bring some extra condoms. I bring my own condoms one session out of three. I have to cum three times in one hour, one session out of three. Regardless of whether you cum once or not.

In the termas, they have to stay within the time limit agreed.

All depends on the girl, there are some girls that re not clockwatchers and some are. I find Cancun to be more strict though I prefer 4 by 4. Girls can't leave the room until the session is over. Sometimes I let the girls go earlier than the agreed time. I've never had any problem with any girls. You always have to let the girls know what you want to do.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2165967]Make sure you confirm that with the girl before you go up to the room. I've noticed over the past few years that the girls will jump you, take a shower and start getting dressed even though you may have time on the clock for a 2nd session.[/QUOTE]They always try to rip you off with the time marked for the session everywhere termas, thrash prives, menssagem etc especially with the gringos that's the way they are and always pisses me off. One girl did to me on my last trip at a trash prive I booked her for 30 min and she stayed with me for about 10-15 min so didn't say nothing to her cause I didn't want to argue with her so I was nice, so after one week I came back and took her for 50 reais and fucked her ass every day for about 2 months as a first customer, even some of the porteros who worked there got pissed off with me, sometimes they wouldn't let me on the elevator on my way back (sometimes I got hart time to get out of the building) but I kept coming every day until I left, I don't won't to mention this prive and the woman (don't won't a propaganda for her) but I think she is still happy that I left, so she was acting smart let's rip this gringo off and at the and I got her ass cheaper that I've payed first time, so I sessioned with her more times for 2 months then some guys who have been knowing her for years.

[QUOTE=JuveStadium;2166015]They always try to rip you off with the time marked for the session everywhere termas, thrash prives, menssagem etc especially with the gringos that's the way they are and always pisses me off. One girl did to me on my last trip at a trash prive I booked her for 30 min and she stayed with me for about 10-15 min so didn't say nothing to her cause I didn't want to argue with her so I was nice, so after one week I came back and took her for 50 reais and fucked her ass every day for about 2 months as a first customer, even some of the porteros who worked there got pissed off with me, sometimes they wouldn't let me on the elevator on my way back (sometimes I got hart time to get out of the building) but I kept coming every day until I left, I don't won't to mention this prive and the woman (don't won't a propaganda for her) but I think she is still happy that I left, so she was acting smart let's rip this gringo off and at the and I got her ass cheaper that I've payed first time, so I sessioned with her more times for 2 months then some guys who have been knowing her for years.[/QUOTE]Huh?

So you returned to her day after day, and everyone was angry at you?
Why?

You still paid up, so how what's the point?
Isn’t she there to have sex with guys?
Aren’t they glad that guys pick her and pay her?

If they didn’t want you there, they’d refuse service.
They’re not slaves.
They can say no.

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[QUOTE=Balboa;2166200]Huh?

So you returned to her day after day, and everyone was angry at you?
Why?

You still paid up, so how what's the point?
Isnt she there to have sex with guys?
Arent they glad that guys pick her and pay her?

If they didnt want you there, theyd refuse service.
Theyre not slaves.
They can say no.[/QUOTE]I agree with you.

The guy wanted revenge on her by having anal sex with her many times. A GP working at a trash puteiro is very used to having anal sex. After having hundreds of local elephant d*cks in her ass she won't get hurt by a gringo d*ck.
The whole story seems weird, but assume he "fucked her ass every day for about 2 months" that would mean at least 40 sessions (excluding weekends). That's R$2000 he payed for his sessions. That's no revenge, it's just giving her good business. Congratulation to the GP.

Apparently he pissed of the porteiros. It takes some extreme acting to p*ss off porteiros. I lift my hat to the porteiros who didn't let him into the elevator.

I've been around to quite a few puteiros. The one and only place they have tried to cheat on the time is at VM. In the prives I always get the time I payed for. The guy must have been very unlucky or something else...

[QUOTE=Sperto;2166330]I agree with you.

The guy wanted revenge on her by having anal sex with her many times. A GP working at a trash puteiro is very used to having anal sex. After having hundreds of local elephant d*cks in her ass she won't get hurt by a gringo d*ck.
The whole story seems weird, but assume he "fucked her ass every day for about 2 months" that would mean at least 40 sessions (excluding weekends). That's R$2000 he payed for his sessions. That's no revenge, it's just giving her good business. Congratulation to the GP.

Apparently he pissed of the porteiros. It takes some extreme acting to p*ss off porteiros. I lift my hat to the porteiros who didn't let him into the elevator.

I've been around to quite a few puteiros. The one and only place they have tried to cheat on the time is at VM. In the prives I always get the time I payed for. The guy must have been very unlucky or something else...[/QUOTE]40 sessions for 2000 reais is a good deal without mentioning that he only fucked her butthole for 40 times, don't you think? In Monte Carlo I paid over 400 reais for one shot. 2000 reais is only 590 dollar. Here in Japan if you want a session with a Japanese woman you have to pay over 300 dollars. Anyway everybody is happy, he got what he wants and the girl got some money to feed her unwanted children. It's fair's fair.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2166200]Huh?

So you returned to her day after day, and everyone was angry at you?
Why?

You still paid up, so how what's the point?
Isnt she there to have sex with guys?
Arent they glad that guys pick her and pay her?

If they didnt want you there, theyd refuse service.
Theyre not slaves.
They can say no.[/QUOTE]Hahahhaha dumbest shit I ever heard. Took revenge by making sure she stays in employment daily!! Kkk I'm sure she wished many more would take "revenge" on her. BTW a definite CBJ trend starting in Rio. Had to swerve a few cbjs with a little bribe (25).

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2166432]Hahahhaha dumbest shit I ever heard. Took revenge by making sure she stays in employment daily!! Kkk I'm sure she wished many more would take "revenge" on her. BTW a definite CBJ trend starting in Rio. Had to swerve a few cbjs with a little bribe (25).[/QUOTE]Come on guys, haven't you ever had an altercation with a hot woman and just wished you could bang her in the butthole. He did it multiple times on the cheap, that's fair revenge in my books.
CBJ is definitely a trend in Brazil; percentage wise more were mandated in my current sessions in Sao Paulo than in previous trips. Also, I'm getting less DFK here as well.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2166457]Come on guys, haven't you ever had an altercation with a hot woman and just wished you could bang her in the butthole. He did it multiple times on the cheap, that's fair revenge in my books.
CBJ is definitely a trend in Brazil; percentage wise more were mandated in my current sessions in Sao Paulo than in previous trips. Also, I'm getting less DFK here as well.[/QUOTE]Exactly my man I got what I want (sex) she got what she wants (money).

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2166432]Hahahhaha dumbest shit I ever heard. Took revenge by making sure she stays in employment daily!! Kkk I'm sure she wished many more would take "revenge" on her. BTW a definite CBJ trend starting in Rio. Had to swerve a few cbjs with a little bribe (25).[/QUOTE]Who's talking about revenge.

The girl good make more money whit me if she was correct at first meeting.

I would take her for 1 hour every second day.

But she chose the cheapest option.

Not my fault.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2166457]Come on guys, haven't you ever had an altercation with a hot woman and just wished you could bang her in the butthole. He did it multiple times on the cheap, that's fair revenge in my books.
CBJ is definitely a trend in Brazil; percentage wise more were mandated in my current sessions in Sao Paulo than in previous trips. Also, I'm getting less DFK here as well.[/QUOTE]I will never get DFK and uncovered blowjobs with any girl in Trash prives and clubs. DFK and uncovered blowjobs are very common in Termas. After getting DFK and uncovered blowjobs, I always need to take a good shower and clean my dick after sex if not I feel dirty. I noticed many girls in Thrash places have a bad breath. The only cheap places I have no problem with getting DFK and uncovered blowjobs, are 502 and T31.

We have to understand some women working in Trash prives and clubs don't like to give uncovered blowjobs or DFK because many men don't wash their dicks before moving to action. Most clients in Trash clubs are poor working Brazilians, I am sure many of them don't wash their dicks. That's why many women tend to give the least uncovered blowjobs possible. There are some unpopular terma girls working in Trash clubs just to earn some money.

I have never been interested in sessioning in prives. There are some prives in which you have to pay extra to receive uncovered blowjobs and CIM. I had visited some popular prives with some people on this forum, none of them had problems having uncovered blowjobs and DFK though some don't like to kiss hookers.

P.S: uncovered blowjobs are more common in Brazil than anywhere else.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2166373]40 sessions for 2000 reais is a good deal without mentioning that he only fucked her butthole for 40 times, don't you think? In Monte Carlo I paid over 400 reais for one shot. 2000 reais is only 590 dollar. Here in Japan if you want a session with a Japanese woman you have to pay over 300 dollars. Anyway everybody is happy, he got what he wants and the girl got some money to feed her unwanted children. It's fair's fair.[/QUOTE]If I ever see her again I would pretend that I have never seen her.

And start a new relationship with her like we've never meet before.

And tell her upfront what I want.

She's a hot chick.

I got anal sex with her because she likes it and I like it too, nobody wants to hurt anybody that's not the point of the sex, you have to enjoy it. If I ever meet her again I'll take her every day for 1 hour.

The chick is hot.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2166200]Huh?

So you returned to her day after day, and everyone was angry at you?
Why?

You still paid up, so how what's the point?
Isnt she there to have sex with guys?
Arent they glad that guys pick her and pay her?

If they didnt want you there, theyd refuse service.
Theyre not slaves.
They can say no.[/QUOTE]Maybe cause of my bad English you didn't understand what I'm talking about.

The only one who didn't like me was a porteiro, who was jealous.

Cause he knew I was banging her we've meet sometimes in the elevator.

And he can afford to get her probably, ones a month.

Of course she got tired of me seeing me every day (in my opinion).

Money is not everything (but it's everything).

During my last trip in February I had sex with 12 different women in SP. 4 of them were in clinicas, 3 in Casarao and 5 I found on Twitter. Uncovered BJ and DFK with everyone. They didn't even propose covered BJ.

Mr. Komo may be right. On twitter the escorts remind the clients constantly about personal hygiene, brushing teeth, excessive body hair etc. , so there must some guys, locals or gringos, who don't pay enough attention to these things. I could imagine that it's more common in low level venues and places without showers.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2166373]40 sessions for 2000 reais is a good deal without mentioning that he only fucked her butthole for 40 times, don't you think? In Monte Carlo I paid over 400 reais for one shot. 2000 reais is only 590 dollar. Here in Japan if you want a session with a Japanese woman you have to pay over 300 dollars. Anyway everybody is happy, he got what he wants and the girl got some money to feed her unwanted children. It's fair's fair.[/QUOTE]Three Hundred ($300) for a Japanese woman. You have been in Japan awhile, are you still paying Gaijin prices? If anyone does plan on traveling to Japan, be sure to bring your own condoms. The guys you see in Japanese porn are large by Japanese standards. Japanese condoms barely fit on your pinkie. In Japan, it also is very easy to hookup with locals. Japanese men prefer video games, Manga, Anime and porn to real women. Learn some basic spoken Japanese (which is easy) and you are golden.

Returning you now to regularly scheduled Brazilian forum.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2166646]During my last trip in February I had sex with 12 different women in SP. 4 of them were in clinicas, 3 in Casarao and 5 I found on Twitter. Uncovered BJ and DFK with everyone. They didn't even propose covered BJ.

Mr. Komo may be right. On twitter the escorts remind the clients constantly about personal hygiene, brushing teeth, excessive body hair etc. , so there must some guys, locals or gringos, who don't pay enough attention to these things. I could imagine that it's more common in low level venues and places without showers.[/QUOTE]I always carry wet wipes. I use them on the provider before DATY and AR when I feel motivated to do that. I also use it on myself before BBBJ to appease the girl. If the girl has bad breath I obviously do not do DFK and opt for CBJ.

I don't like to session at the low trash prives, no matter how those women look a like and what services they provide, those girls get 20 hard working machos everyday, not too mention the poor conditions in those houses. If I really like one women in a prive I would session with her only, if I'm her the first client of the day, other wise I walk off. The good thing is that we are all different some guys don't bother being the number 1 or number 20.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2166747]Three Hundred ($300) for a Japanese woman. You have been in Japan awhile, are you still paying Gaijin prices? If anyone does plan on traveling to Japan, be sure to bring your own condoms. The guys you see in Japanese porn are large by Japanese standards. Japanese condoms barely fit on your pinkie. In Japan, it also is very easy to hookup with locals. Japanese men prefer video games, Manga, Anime and porn to real women. Learn some basic spoken Japanese (which is easy) and you are golden.

Returning you now to regularly scheduled Brazilian forum.[/QUOTE]30000 yen is the standard price in every soapland in Tokyo (yoshiwara), most women are Japanese and some are European. You can find cheapest women for 5000 or 15000 yen in massage parlors and other spots in Ikekubukuro, Shinjuku and Roppongi, those women are immigrants. (Thailand, Vietnam, China, Philippines, Africa and Brazil). Brazilian hookers in Japan are not as beautiful as Brazilian hookers in Brazil. Most Brazilian hookers in Japan are ugly.

Unpopular women in Soaplands are gaijin friendly because they don't get enough clients then they prefer leave them to western men. Any foreigner that has a good grasp of Japanese, can deal with any non gaijin friendly Japanese women and pay the Japanese price (20000 yen). Not all women in the gaijin friendly soapland are gaijin friendly, only the unpopular women are gaijin friendly.

Black men, Brown men, White men and Asian men other than Japanese, are considered the same in Japan (Gaijin). Japan is the only country where western people are looked down on. I know american soldiers from Okinawa that visit Tokyo and foreign expats living in Japan that have never hooked up with any Japanese women because they don't know how to act around them. Many foreign men are scammed by Asian women in Roppongi, these women pretend to be Japanese but they are not. Only Japanese men and expats know that.

There are condoms in every size in Japan. You can find anything you want in Japan.

It is not easy to hook up with Japanese women without any knowledge of Japanese and Culture, You won't get anywhere. Maybe in the past but now time changed, don't think your dick will be gold when you are in Japan, if you think that way you will be disappointed when you set foot in Japan.

I don't monger and hook up with Japanese women anymore, since I am in a relationship with an American expat. I don't need to brag about my success with Japanese women, I haven't fucked women in Japan other than my girlfriend since my return to Japan.

Conclusion: Many people think the same about Brazilian women, they are easy to hook up with but the reality is the opposite, without any knowledge of Portuguese and the culture you will only end up fucking hookers and won't be able to deal with regulars. Many people mistake regulars for semi pro and freelancers. (Regulars are the women you don't fuck in exchange of money.). I thank god for my fluency in Portuguese.

[QUOTE=JuveStadium;2166481]If I ever see her again I would pretend that I have never seen her.

And start a new relationship with her like we've never meet before.

And tell her upfront what I want.

She's a hot chick.[/QUOTE]Match made in heaven.

I'm sure if you ever see her again, you can disguise yourself and start new with her, LOL.

I don't understand you, however, I do wish you good luck.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2166907]Match made in heaven.

I'm sure if you ever see her again, you can disguise yourself and start new with her, LOL.

I don't understand you, however, I do wish you good luck.[/QUOTE]I don't need to disguise myself to her.

I didn't do anything wrong.

I'm like any other client of her.

[QUOTE=JuveStadium;2166858]If I really like one women in a prive I would session with her only, if I'm her the first client of the day, other wise I walk off. The good thing is that we are all different some guys don't bother being the number 1 or number 20.[/QUOTE]Some guys get off on not being first. They be like, "Oh she think she seen something? She think she seen something? Just wait till she get to number 52! I'm going to show her something for real then! She ain't seen nothing yet"! LOLOLOL!

Hey guys,

I am thinking of booking Brazil for Oct or Nov. The rate today is 3.40 to 1. Can you guys update me on 4 by 4 and Monte Carlo rates. I want to be able to pay the entrance fee, room, and girl for 40 minutes for 340 reals or less. Is that still doable or have rates gone through the room since 2010 when I was last there. Also, since help is closed, I was thinking of staying in Centro near 4 by 4. What hotels there don't charge for guests as long as you check each one in for under 50 a night?

Thanks.

Wish I had a current field report about RIO to share. This thread has become clogged with too much pontificating about Germany and Japan. I wish there was a Brazil chit chat thread.

Recently this was posted:

"Many people think the same about Brazilian women, they are easy to hook up with but the reality is the opposite, without any knowledge of Portuguese and the culture you will only end up fucking hookers and won't be able to deal with regulars. Many people mistake regulars for semi pro and freelancers. (Regulars are the women you don't fuck in exchange of money.). I thank god for my fluency in Portuguese. ".

I have to strongly disagree. Brazilieras, non-pros, will put out on the first or second date. While it helps, you don't need to be fluent in Portuguese or steeped in the culture. With the help of google translate and tinder it is very possible to have sex with regular girls. What's required is having some game. Tinder in Rio is filled with working girls. In So Paulo, it's a different story. My first week there I met a hot 25 yo. Two weeks and two dates later she was in my bed. At the time my Portuguese was awful, and she speaks no English. On another visit, within a week I was out with a 23 yo who can speak English and she was down for first date sex. In short, regular Brazilieras are easy to hook up with if you have the luxury to stay in Brazil for more than a week or two at a time. In short, move here and you can have sex with regular girls long before you can speak Portuguese or have much understanding of the culture.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2165119]There are different girls every week. But it depends on the terma. You just have to go to every terma. A 10 day stay is too short to see a difference. Have you ever tried some clubs in Barra the tijuka?[/QUOTE]Tell me more about Barra. I made friends with 1 girl that I meet always. She is suggesting not to stay in Copa. Apparently some crazy military activity as well as violence etc, she is suggesting Barra. What is there? Never been there.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2167019]Hey guys,

I am thinking of booking Brazil for Oct or Nov. The rate today is 3.40 to 1. Can you guys update me on 4 by 4 and Monte Carlo rates. I want to be able to pay the entrance fee, room, and girl for 40 minutes for 340 reals or less. Is that still doable or have rates gone through the room since 2010 when I was last there. Also, since help is closed, I was thinking of staying in Centro near 4 by 4. What hotels there don't charge for guests as long as you check each one in for under 50 a night?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]1 hour 380 reais plus 50 reais entry fee if you don't session before 6 pm, you have to see Safado's posts, he wrote many informative posts, he wrote recent reports about Monte Carlo. Just go to his profile [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/member.php?301417-Safado69[/URL] and click on "Find all posts".

Enjoy Rio.

[QUOTE=MRusa007;2167098]Tell me more about Barra. I made friends with 1 girl that I meet always. She is suggesting not to stay in Copa. Apparently some crazy military activity as well as violence etc, she is suggesting Barra. What is there? Never been there.[/QUOTE]In Barra, you have to try out Perola Negra and Paris Cafe if you are not into prives.

They are affiliated with 4 por4.

Entry fee is 30 reais for both, consumption non-inclusive, there is no entry fee every Monday but there are less women Mondays. Better to go every Wednesday and Thursday.

[URL]http://perolanegraclub.com.br/[/URL]

[URL]http://www.pariscafe.com.br/[/URL]

Better to stay in Copacabana because it is easier to go to many different spots from Copacabana. It is very easy to go to Centro by subway.

If you stay 10 days in Rio. Hit every terma and the clubs I mentioned above. In centro " Cancun, 4 by4 and T61" and in Zona sul " Solarium and Monte Carlo" in Barra " Pariscafe and Perolanegra".

On Saturdays, Solarium and Monte Carlo are open till 2 am, Perola Negra is open till 5 am and Paris Cafe is open till 4 am.

On sundays, meet a terma girl or hit Mosaic or some clinicas.

Here is the link of the famous clinicas. [URL]https://espacoterapias.com.br/[/URL] that's why it is better to only hit the clinicas that are listed on this website. You only have ten days in Rio de Janeiro, you have no time to waste.

[QUOTE=LarryDavid;2167039]Wish I had a current field report about RIO to share. This thread has become clogged with too much pontificating about Germany and Japan. I wish there was a Brazil chit chat thread.

Recently this was posted:

"Many people think the same about Brazilian women, they are easy to hook up with but the reality is the opposite, without any knowledge of Portuguese and the culture you will only end up fucking hookers and won't be able to deal with regulars. Many people mistake regulars for semi pro and freelancers. (Regulars are the women you don't fuck in exchange of money.). I thank god for my fluency in Portuguese. ".

I have to strongly disagree. Brazilieras, non-pros, will put out on the first or second date. While it helps, you don't need to be fluent in Portuguese or steeped in the culture. With the help of google translate and tinder it is very possible to have sex with regular girls. What's required is having some game. Tinder in Rio is filled with working girls. In So Paulo, it's a different story. My first week there I met a hot 25 yo. Two weeks and two dates later she was in my bed. At the time my Portuguese was awful, and she speaks no English. On another visit, within a week I was out with a 23 yo who can speak English and she was down for first date sex. In short, regular Brazilieras are easy to hook up with if you have the luxury to stay in Brazil for more than a week or two at a time. In short, move here and you can have sex with regular girls long before you can speak Portuguese or have much understanding of the culture.[/QUOTE]Lucky you if you hooked up with Brazilians with only google translate. Hooking up with Brazilians from upper class backgrounds is another story, you need some command of Portuguese to get laid with these women. Everybody can hook up with Brazilians from lower-class backgrounds in exchange of some food. I met a guy on this forum that's from Chicago, he was with another friend, It was in September 2016, we went to a party, they brought 8 regulars to their apartment after a party in Zona Norte. They speak no Portuguese. They just said to the girls they had an apartment with a view over the beach and stuck tequila and some other beers in their fridge. They asked me to join them but I did not because I was busy with one girl I met at the party.

[QUOTE=LarryDavid;2167039]Wish I had a current field report about RIO to share. This thread has become clogged with too much pontificating about Germany and Japan. I wish there was a Brazil chit chat thread.

Recently this was posted:

"Many people think the same about Brazilian women, they are easy to hook up with but the reality is the opposite, without any knowledge of Portuguese and the culture you will only end up fucking hookers and won't be able to deal with regulars. Many people mistake regulars for semi pro and freelancers. (Regulars are the women you don't fuck in exchange of money.). I thank god for my fluency in Portuguese. ".

I have to strongly disagree. Brazilieras, non-pros, will put out on the first or second date. While it helps, you don't need to be fluent in Portuguese or steeped in the culture. With the help of google translate and tinder it is very possible to have sex with regular girls. What's required is having some game. Tinder in Rio is filled with working girls. In So Paulo, it's a different story. My first week there I met a hot 25 yo. Two weeks and two dates later she was in my bed. At the time my Portuguese was awful, and she speaks no English. On another visit, within a week I was out with a 23 yo who can speak English and she was down for first date sex. In short, regular Brazilieras are easy to hook up with if you have the luxury to stay in Brazil for more than a week or two at a time. In short, move here and you can have sex with regular girls long before you can speak Portuguese or have much understanding of the culture.[/QUOTE]One good thing about Brazil is that unlike other Latin American countries such as Colombia and the DR a gringo can walk around with a local without being looked on as a sex tourist so the garotas are much more inclined to date foreigners.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2167269]One good thing about Brazil is that unlike other Latin American countries such as Colombia and the DR a gringo can walk around with a local without being looked on as a sex tourist so the garotas are much more inclined to date foreigners.[/QUOTE]A gringo has no problem walking around with a local, because they look like Brazilians, Brazilians don't recognize gringos until they open their mouth. Many regulars avoid going to the Ipanema beach with gringos just because they don't want to be seen as garota de programa.

[QUOTE=MRusa007;2167098]Tell me more about Barra. I made friends with 1 girl that I meet always. She is suggesting not to stay in Copa. Apparently some crazy military activity as well as violence etc, she is suggesting Barra. What is there? Never been there.[/QUOTE]Barra is south of Copacabana about 30 minutes by taxi and I believe since the Olympics the metro runs out there so you can get to Copa easy and centro too if you want. It's a relatively newer neighborhood than Copa or Ipanema but much more residential but in recent years there are now several good hotels. It's sort of modeled after Miami beach with new high rise condos along the beach and American type shopping malls. Plenty of restaurants and dance clubs and bars packed with middle to upper middle class young women same as the beach praia do Pepe.

It could be an interesting place depending on how you monger for example this escort site [URL]http://www.barravipsrio.com/[/URL] primarily has girls who live in Barra so it would be easy to try them all. As others mentioned there are local termas and there is a new swing club in the neighborhood that I want to try someday.

After catching up on posts it looks like the subway goes everywhere now. I can add a couple termas in Barra now to the list. Before it was too far by taxi. What happened to Luomo.

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[QUOTE=RioBob;2167398]Barra is south of Copacabana about 30 minutes by taxi and I believe since the Olympics the metro runs out there so you can get to Copa easy and centro too if you want. It's a relatively newer neighborhood than Copa or Ipanema but much more residential but in recent years there are now several good hotels. It's sort of modeled after Miami beach with new high rise condos along the beach and American type shopping malls. Plenty of restaurants and dance clubs and bars packed with middle to upper middle class young women same as the beach praia do Pepe.

It could be an interesting place depending on how you monger for example this escort site [URL]http://www.barravipsrio.com/[/URL] primarily has girls who live in Barra so it would be easy to try them all. As others mentioned there are local termas and there is a new swing club in the neighborhood that I want to try someday.[/QUOTE]There is no terma in Barra, there are clubs where you can get laid on site, the only difference with termas is you can keep on your street clothes. Agree with Rio Bob about everything else.

In reply to MRusa: Copacabana is safe, Brazilians tend to make a song and dance about everything. If your only intention is to monger and you have no knowledge of Portuguese to pick up Regulars then Copacabana is for you.

Barra the Tijuka: [URL]http://www.rio.com/practical-rio/barra-da-tijuca[/URL].

Barra the tijuka is big, the clubs I mentioned are far away from the Barra the Tijuka stations. Only a taxi trip to Paris Cafe from the last subway station of Barra the Tijuka, costs 70 reais. Avenida das Americas is a very long avenue stretching From Barra to Recreo, Paris cafe is in Recreo. You can also take BRT buses from the Jardim Oceaanico station. To go to swing clubs you need to have a girl with you.

Paris Cafe Swing Club: [URL]http://www.pariscafe.com.br/swing-club/[/URL] (Friday and Saturday from 10 PM) Friday. Club the Seducao: [URL]https://www.clubedaseducao.net/[/URL] and Saturday from 10 PM. Sylvia Swing: [URL]http://sylviaswing.com.br/[/URL].

P.S: Solteiras means Single women, single men are not admitted to the swing club. As a single man, you will only be admitted to the man club: [URL]http://www.pariscafe.com.br/night-club/[/URL].

There are some clinicas in Barra the Tijuka though I know you are more into termas so your only options in Barra are to go to the clubs I mentioned. Wednesday and Thursday are the best days.

Some clinicas in Barra: [URL]https://espacoterapias.com.br/clinicas/?localidade=Barra&estado=rio-de-janeiro[/URL] : the website is often updated. So you will know in advance which girls work. There are not all clinicas in Barra, only the popular ones.

Men,

I'm pleased to report that the locals have seen fit to make a video about my love life.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLtBi--FJL8[/URL]

Now, I suggest that you create a Google play music playlist for.

Anitta.

To compliment your.

Felipe Ret.

Playlist.

You can train for this shit at home, fellas. Bring a few speakers, like JBL or even better a Ion.

ION Audio Tailgater (iPA77).

Portable Bluetooth PA Speaker with Mic, AM / FM Radio, and USB Charge Port.

Fits well in a Rush72 bag.

Post more pics. Them breve, vou postar a shit ton of negras. Just to break up the petty bickering.

Carry on fellas.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2167424]After catching up on posts it looks like the subway goes everywhere now. I can add a couple termas in Barra now to the list. Before it was too far by taxi. What happened to Luomo.[/QUOTE]Great memories there. Unfortunately, it closed a few years back.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2130470]This evening there was a car accident on Av Atlntica, in Copacabana. The car ended up on the beach. 15 people got hurt. One baby died.
I passed by right after the accident happened. Incredible that it took way more than one hour to get ambulances to all the victims.
Sad story.
[URL]https://oglobo.globo.com/rio/morre-bebe-de-8-meses-ferido-em-acidente-na-orla-de-copacabana-22304891A[/URL][/QUOTE]
A follow-up on the accident in Copacabana when a car hit a crowd on the calçadão. One baby got killed and 17 people got hurt. Among the badly hurt was a gringo, australian.
It turned out that he deserved what he got.
[URL]https://g1.globo.com/rj/rio-de-janeiro/noticia/como-atropelamento-em-copacabana-revelou-australiano-condenado-por-pedofilia-foragido-ha-20-anos-no-brasil.ghtml[/URL]
That's what I call karma. Whatever you do will come back to you at some point.

Howdy guys. I stopped going to Rio right before the World Cup / Olympics madness, but am hopping back into to the mix and going back to Rio soon. Are the same Termas still up and running, eg. 4 x 4, Monte Carlo, T65, Solarium, etc. I heard that Centaurus was shut down but reckon it's back up and operating now, yes? Any new good venues pop up in the last few years?

Just out of curiosity, how much does an hour session at a place like Monte Carlo run now? When I was last in Brasil inflation was out of control. Just want to know what to expect.

BTW. It seems I had been away from the site so long that my old user name no longer works so I had to create a new profile. I see some of the old crew are still active in this forum like Sperto.

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[QUOTE=Sperto;2167933]A follow-up on the accident in Copacabana when a car hit a crowd on the calado. One baby got killed and 17 people got hurt. Among the badly hurt was a gringo, australian.
It turned out that he deserved what he got.
[URL]https://g1.globo.com/rj/rio-de-janeiro/noticia/como-atropelamento-em-copacabana-revelou-australiano-condenado-por-pedofilia-foragido-ha-20-anos-no-brasil.ghtml[/URL]
That's what I call karma. Whatever you do will come back to you at some point.[/QUOTE]The Grim Reaper does not discriminate. When its your day to go, its a done deal. That Australian guy had it coming.

This entire line of discussion about picking up regular girls whether it be Brazil, Japan, etc. Leaves out the most important variable GAME. Either you have it or you don't. If you think simply getting on a plane is going to give you GAME, you're gravely mistaken. You might be incredibly handsome or your game might be you're a lot of fun, but you need that certain something that attracts women. Yes, it helps to be younger, perhaps blonde, etc. Etc. But you still need game. If you have to think about this a lot, I'm going to guess you don't have it.

It certainly helps to know some of the local language, but if you are chasing middle class girls some of them have studied English. All over the world, I find if a woman has worked hard to become fluent in English, she likely has an interest in American (or Western) culture. You will know when you speak with them.

Tourists in Rio have become all to common. You will have more success talking to local girls in Sao Paulo and even more so in secondary cities where tourists are less common.

Hi gents,

Been in Rio a while now and was wandering where everyone goes Monday to Thursday night. Mabs and DV are always busy on Friday and Saturday nights but what about the rest. Any advice on clubs or bars to visit. I am based in Copacabana but can travel. Also re Lapa any advice on where to go. I have chatted with some DV girls and they say they do go to Lapa for work but it's hit or miss for them. They have to way up cost of getting there, club entrance fees, drinks and then no guarantee of meeting a client. I went to Lapa and it all seemed a bit chaotic, maybe I didn't go to the right bar etc. Any advice on best bars where some freelancers work etc.

Been quiet on the report front here from Rio as I had been seeing 6/7 civilians from Cupid since I came for the first 2 weeks.

On the dark side front here is what I've been up to lately.

Had ex-VM regular over whos now 20,goldne brown skinned negra with no need for bra-body is boomin like a benz.

Best fcuk of the trip for mighty 150 reais plus lunch.

Had ex-t31 hottie be over -this one is a hot mulatta-tatted up stunner with a mean butt and a pretty model face.

Mighty 150 reais plus an uber from favela in centro well worth it.

I walked the stairway from hell in Uruguyana balloon spot and place was jumpin with about 15 girls and a 7 reais entrada towards consumacao.

A girl came over and said her friend started today and what I thought.

She was hot negra-pretty face, clean skin, Poetic Justice braids, nice full titties and a firm butt and a cute smile. 19. Titties full of milk. LOL.

In the room she FDK'd nice and tried CBJ which I swerved with a 30 reais bribe. Not that it was needed but it smoothed it all out and she sucked a mean dicker.

I sucked on her milky titties and gave her the magic wand untill she came and then she was ready to fuck-we had great chemistry fdk while fucking in multiple P.S.

I came in condom which is rare for me.

120 for the hour plus 30 propinha.

Next I went to 31 which was ok-commited the sin of hangin with a tall cute mulatta who was so fly I forgot to check chemistry and she was restrictive in room-CBJ and not into it.

I enjoyed lookin at her and then threw her out.

Then I went straight to my fave new boate in centro negra heaven which is jumpin with great energy and a house party vibe-great a hot negra and went for hour-110 reais.

She bbbjd me and wanted to get fucked hard and then she sucked me off till I almost came-threw on hat and fucked her till I came. Very enthusiastic girl.

9/10.

I went to ave treze de maio 14th floor and smashed my JLO whos back-great sexo and good to see her again. She's back from Sao Paolo tomorrow so will bring her to the crib soon.

250 for 2 hours.

I went VM today and it was quiet but still had 4/5 cuties-not 10's but solid 7. 5's.

Ended up at MC on a nostalgic one-off return.

It has seen better days vibe wise especially its subdued but had alot of girls-maybe 30 and 3/4 guys.

Quite FEW CUTE GIRLS. Morenas. Venezuelan lookin too. 3/4 hot ones.

Took one with nice big natural titties and a cute smile and black eyes whos sucked a mean dick and loved to get pounded.

When I came down, a very hot morena was there and we kissed and she had soft lips and was great kisser and model face but I was spent so I gave her my number and told her to send me whatsapp and she can come over.

It was nice to be back and the rooms were decent no doubt a relief from the trash / lower tier -once in a while get spoiled.

With drinks for me / girl /1 hour in room / entrada;700. Expensive but I enjoyed it even though its lackin that buzz from 3/4 years back. But def cute girls of the morena model type. 1 black girl. Rest morenas and loiras.

More reports to come.

[QUOTE=Dave1111;2169189]Hi gents,

Been in Rio a while now and was wandering where everyone goes Monday to Thursday night. Mabs and DV are always busy on Friday and Saturday nights but what about the rest. Any advice on clubs or bars to visit. I am based in Copacabana but can travel. Also re Lapa any advice on where to go. I have chatted with some DV girls and they say they do go to Lapa for work but it's hit or miss for them. They have to way up cost of getting there, club entrance fees, drinks and then no guarantee of meeting a client. I went to Lapa and it all seemed a bit chaotic, maybe I didn't go to the right bar etc. Any advice on best bars where some freelancers work etc.[/QUOTE]Privees, boates, lower tier termas in centro-apart from Sunday and Monday everything is busy as always. Vila MImosa if you like a bit of a wilder Pattaya in Rio. Termas usually are cool from Tuesday onwards. Sunday / Monday arrange private visits.

Last night in centro I was heading to RB185 for a last minute smash and grab with my fave morena on the top floor but she fronted at the last minute.

My ex t31 was busy with her kid to come to motel VIP's so I hit MV30 for old time's sake.

Vibe was good-playing RocknRoll and James Brown and girls enjoying it. Picked a sexy morena with stand out natural titties and a nice firm petite butt.

Turned out to be a very good choice after fdk in boate and dancing etc her pussy stayed very wet throughout session and bb was available.

Left happy. Paid 270 reais including drink for 1 hour.

Not complaining.

Tonight I'm hitting all darkside spots in centro including Negra Heaven-my fave boate for 120 an hour a great time guaranteed.

I will end up in Vila MImosa as I have half a date at Motel Malaga with a girl whos works near VM but will be black Snow patrolling from 1800-0500.

Report to come.

Tomorrow will see my 20 year old surfer morena from Manaus during daytime and in evening I have a date with 18 year old hottie morena in Nova Iguacu as she's worried about comin to Copa.Both off cupid btw.been speaking for month...fucked Manaus last week.

I will take her to IBIS Nova Iguacu tomorrow night and Sunday its beach time. Monday my 19 year old ex Cancun spinner will come over for a beach and some leiche.

Life is picking up after a bout of gripe. Flu.

Trying to squeeze out as much out of my last 11 days and squeeze into as much young buceta as possible preferably with cim daily.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2169861]Last night in centro I was heading to RB185 for a last minute smash and grab with my fave morena on the top floor but she fronted at the last minute.

Trying to squeeze out as much out of my last 11 days and squeeze into as much young buceta as possible preferably with cim daily.[/QUOTE]Good reporting!

I'm back in Rio tomorrow after a week or so relaxing in the Caribbean with my favorite Latina.

Enjoy!

[QUOTE=Komo753;2165119]There are different girls every week. But it depends on the terma. You just have to go to every terma. A 10 day stay is too short to see a difference. Have you ever tried some clubs in Barra the tijuka?[/QUOTE]No I have never been to Barra in my 5 trips. It is always MC and Solarium. Tried once to 4 x 4. Wasn't thrilled. May be the timing was bad.

Komo: thank you for a very detailed response. Are there rooms in Paris cafe.

I am leaving in 3 weeks from now.

Anyone there right now in Copa. I have a lot of "touristy" familiarity with copa area. Walk to MC from best western hotel. Or uber to solarium. That was my typical routine the last 4-5 times I have been there.

This time I am going with 2 other friends. It is their first time.

On Sundays I take some of the girls from Solarium to Hotel Panda. Never been to Paris or Pérola Negra.

The first question for me is. Is it now safe. Are there violence and shooting and military in Copa now? If so, we are thinking of cancelling the entire trip.

The other option recommended by a friend is Barra. Hence the prior post.

Next: if we took a 3 bed nice apartment either in Copa or Barra, can we bring 3-5 girls with us? We are planning to get 3-4 bedrooms apartments. Will this be a problem with airbnb. Last time we stayed at best western and we 2 guys and 4 girls went to Panda hotel (double expense of bestwester and panda), the cost of alcohol was very expensive. So we are thinking if we can buy the booze in a liquor store and have girls to our apartment. But not sure of the doorman and the rules of an airbnb.

[QUOTE=MRusa007;2170038]
Next: if we took a 3 bed nice apartment either in Copa or Barra, can we bring 3-5 girls with us? We are planning to get 3-4 bedrooms apartments. Will this be a problem with airbnb. Last time we stayed at best western and we 2 guys and 4 girls went to Panda hotel (double expense of bestwester and panda), the cost of alcohol was very expensive. So we are thinking if we can buy the booze in a liquor store and have girls to our apartment. But not sure of the doorman and the rules of an airbnb.[/QUOTE]Usually the policies for guests and entertaining (e. G. Parties) are explicitly stated in the Airbnb rules for each rental property ad. If you have any doubt, be transparent and ask the host. I always ask the following: Can I have guests? Can I have a party, if no can I have a couple people over? They will probably be concerned about noise during "quiet hours" or deviant behavior that would upset neighbors. And yes the doorman will always give you funny looks when multiple girls are coming and going. You want them to screen and call you first before anyone goes upstairs. That is their job.

Hope that helps.

[QUOTE=MRusa007;2170038]Komo: thank you for a very detailed response. Are there rooms in Paris cafe.

I am leaving in 3 weeks from now.

Anyone there right now in Copa. I have a lot of "touristy" familiarity with copa area. Walk to MC from best western hotel. Or uber to solarium. That was my typical routine the last 4-5 times I have been there.

This time I am going with 2 other friends. It is their first time.

On Sundays I take some of the girls from Solarium to Hotel Panda. Never been to Paris or Prola Negra.

The first question for me is. Is it now safe. Are there violence and shooting and military in Copa now? If so, we are thinking of cancelling the entire trip..[/QUOTE]There are rooms in Paris Cafe, you are able to get laid on the premises.

Copacabana is safe and very easy to travel to different brothels.

It depends on owners' policy but in airbnb you have to ask every owner if their apartment is girl friendly.

4 by4 is good from 5 PM.

Some members on here make a fuss about the safety of Copacabana to discourage some newbies from going there and fuck their mongering experience up. Even in Barra, there are some dangerous spots especially if you walk along the empty beach at night. Be careful of some streetwalkers and thieves in Barra. Everywhere is not safe when you walk into the wrong places. Barra is big and many spots are not safe. Always leave your valuables in your apartment and take the minimum amount just to pay for what you need. Even in Japan, the safest country in the world, since there have been some immigrants from other Asian, South American and African countries, there are people getting scammed especially western men and women. Unfortunately our compatriots are the dumbest to be screwed.

My advice is not to venture to favelas and disadvantaged places, not to take empty paths and not to carry your valuables around.

I prefer the beach in Barra over that of Copacabana because it is cleaner and there are less people compared to that of Copacabana.

Shooting is only in the favelas and disadvantageous spots. You will be fine in Brazil as long as you don't seek trouble and stay away from trouble. Rio de Janeiro is not Baghdad.

[QUOTE=MRusa007;2170038]Komo: thank you for a very detailed response. Are there rooms in Paris cafe.

I am leaving in 3 weeks from now.

Anyone there right now in Copa. I have a lot of "touristy" familiarity with copa area. Walk to MC from best western hotel. Or uber to solarium. That was my typical routine the last 4-5 times I have been there.

This time I am going with 2 other friends. It is their first time.

On Sundays I take some of the girls from Solarium to Hotel Panda. Never been to Paris or Prola Negra.

The first question for me is. Is it now safe. Are there violence and shooting and military in Copa now? If so, we are thinking of cancelling the entire trip.

The other option recommended by a friend is Barra. Hence the prior post.

Next: if we took a 3 bed nice apartment either in Copa or Barra, can we bring 3-5 girls with us? We are planning to get 3-4 bedrooms apartments. Will this be a problem with airbnb. Last time we stayed at best western and we 2 guys and 4 girls went to Panda hotel (double expense of bestwester and panda), the cost of alcohol was very expensive. So we are thinking if we can buy the booze in a liquor store and have girls to our apartment. But not sure of the doorman and the rules of an airbnb.[/QUOTE]Copa is not a problem. I'm here now. Same issues as always but no increase in shooting etc.

Last night hit centro and started at my negra heaven spot where funke was bangin hard and chicks working it! I took a hot mulata India girl with juicy lips and a body plus she could dance in boate and chem was right DFK in boate! Awesome kisser!

Took her for 120 hour and she sucked a mean one BBBJ and kissed deeply and fucked me everyway I wanted. A keeper!

Next stop was balloon spot on uruguaia with stairs of death-party was hoppin-lots of negras but none hit the spot! Then it went downhill! I hit vm and grabbed a cutie who turned out to be an opti fuck cute but was not working-then I hung with 2 hot 18 year olds-chemistry good in boate-we went to get vodka down the road-all good times-I took both to Malaga-paid manasan 100 for both in total and agreed 200 for each girl for 3 hours- we stocked up on weed, vodka etc and got to Malaga -70 Reais plus a multa for extra person-greedy bastards-then in the room the vibe changed- girls kinda switched and tried to ignore me-I was like ok take an L- had a great one earlier-so while they were in bath I got dressed and bounced! Fuck them-don't bite the hand that feeds.

One of them ran out naked in hallway I just kept goin and walked out and took cab-enjoy the 30 min walk to vm hoes with no dough-vm is cool but sometimes too much work to weed out the bad seeds. I'm havin joy in lower tier termas and trash!

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2170296]Last night hit centro and started at my negra heaven spot where funke was bangin hard and chicks working it! I took a hot mulata India girl with juicy lips and a body plus she could dance in boate and chem was right DFK in boate! Awesome kisser!

Took her for 120 hour and she sucked a mean one BBBJ and kissed deeply and fucked me everyway I wanted. A keeper!

Next stop was balloon spot on uruguaia with stairs of death-party was hoppin-lots of negras but none hit the spot! Then it went downhill! I hit vm and grabbed a cutie who turned out to be an opti fuck cute but was not working-then I hung with 2 hot 18 year olds-chemistry good in boate-we went to get vodka down the road-all good times-I took both to Malaga-paid manasan 100 for both in total and agreed 200 for each girl for 3 hours- we stocked up on weed, vodka etc and got to Malaga -70 Reais plus a multa for extra person-greedy bastards-then in the room the vibe changed- girls kinda switched and tried to ignore me-I was like ok take an L- had a great one earlier-so while they were in bath I got dressed and bounced! Fuck them-don't bite the hand that feeds.

One of them ran out naked in hallway I just kept goin and walked out and took cab-enjoy the 30 min walk to vm hoes with no dough-vm is cool but sometimes too much work to weed out the bad seeds. I'm havin joy in lower tier termas and trash![/QUOTE]So you lost over 600 reais?

[QUOTE=Komo753;2170173]Shooting is only in the favelas and disadvantageous spots. You will be fine in Brazil as long as you don't seek trouble and stay away from trouble. Rio de Janeiro is not Baghdad.[/QUOTE]Contrary to popular belief Iraq is actually not that dangerous coming in around 50th place out of 200 or so countries that exist in the world today. Brazil has just slipped out of the top 10 coming in around 15th place last year. Statistically speaking it was actually safer in Irag during the US led wars in Irag than in the Brasil.

What Komo said is correct in that most serious crimes occur in the poor areas which do slant the statistics but it is still dangerous anywhere Zona Sul, especially after say 10 pm at night. It is a weird violence in that most nights are really really safe until the split second when it isn't and all manner of shit can happen. You definitely need to be aware of where you are.

If you want to stay updated on where the shootings occurs in Rio, check out the FB pages
Onde Tem Tiroteio-RJ. OTTRJ
and
Rio de Nojeira

Most shootouts occurs in the communidades, but far from all. As there are many communidades in Zona Sul it's not rare to hear machinegunfire or even grenades even if you stay in Copacabana.
Rio always has had problems with violence but it has become worse the last years. Still I find it safe enough as long as you use common sense.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2170508]If you want to stay updated on where the shootings occurs in Rio, check out the FB pages
Onde Tem Tiroteio-RJ. OTTRJ
and
Rio de Nojeira

Most shootouts occurs in the communidades, but far from all. As there are many communidades in Zona Sul it's not rare to hear machinegunfire or even grenades even if you stay in Copacabana.
Rio always has had problems with violence but it has become worse the last years. Still I find it safe enough as long as you use common sense.[/QUOTE]This is true. I hear gunfire almost daily-we tell ourselves it's the firecrackers again. Also police checks are way up. I've been stopped in a normal taxi the last 2 nights-firstly on rua SA Ferreira by pavãozinho entrance and last night on outskirts of vm. They searched my rucksack first night and last night I was made to get out the car but both episodes ended with no problem. Not cool though as they like a little cafezinha-bribe at times. Can go left.

Copacabana is very safe compared to many places in Rio de Janeiro.

It is better to take a taxi after 10 pm and avoid empty streets, that's why the cars don't stop in the lights at night when the streets are empty.

Favelas in Zona Sul are not as dangerous as favelas in Zona Norte and Zona Oeste. Many gringos and tourists live in Favelas in Zona Sul, because the rent is cheaper and can't rent apartments and studios in the city because it is more expensive. There are hotels in Favelas in Zona Sul. Favelas in Zona Sul are pacific.

Favelas in Zona Oeste are led by bandidos or milicianos. Copacabana is very safe just be careful of thieves at night along the beach and any paths, many of them ride bicycles and stay away from streetwalkers. There are many pickpockets along the beach at nigh that's why you have to take a taxi or uber when you get back home. The beaches are safe at night only when there are many people.

As Bubba said, you must be careful wherever you are, that means even in your own country because shit happens everywhere.

Só after a nice session with my 20 year Old surfer girl from Manaus and watching My beloved Mengo win 2-0 in Lapa with plenty of caipirinhas we stopped by Mabs-totally shit-we then went to VM where I of course ran into the 2 girls who I left in Malaga night before-they wanted their money and I told them to fuck off-cue the 2 pimps and fat mama San and we had a little discussion on the front line. They agreed with me and I gave 50 reais to each girl and was given 2 programs in return from mamasan with -everyone was happy-small price to pay to keep the peace and now it's all love and discounts. Pick your battle. I took nice negra from Nova Iguaçyou who after inspecting my Charles dickins gave me a monster BBBJ and I gave her the magic wand. Good session.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2170508]If you want to stay updated on where the shootings occurs in Rio, check out the FB pages
Onde Tem Tiroteio-RJ. OTTRJ
and
Rio de Nojeira

Most shootouts occurs in the communidades, but far from all. As there are many communidades in Zona Sul it's not rare to hear machinegunfire or even grenades even if you stay in Copacabana.
Rio always has had problems with violence but it has become worse the last years. Still I find it safe enough as long as you use common sense.[/QUOTE]OTT-RJ also has a phone app. Fogo cruzado is another app where people report shootings.

Rio is safe until it isn't. Besides shootings and stray bullets, some people here forget about street crime and robberies. Such a disservice for them (not you) to call the city safe. Manhattan is safe. Stockholm is safe. Much time can be spent in Rio without any problems, but one person's experience doesn't make it safe.

[QUOTE=LarryDavid;2170698]OTT-RJ also has a phone app. Fogo cruzado is another app where people report shootings.

Rio is safe until it isn't. Besides shootings and stray bullets, some people here forget about street crime and robberies. Such a disservice for them (not you) to call the city safe. Manhattan is safe. Stockholm is safe. Much time can be spent in Rio without any problems, but one person's experience doesn't make it safe.[/QUOTE]Manhattan (the most affluent borough of NYC) really isn't a fair comparison to the city of Rio.

There is now a pretty visible presence of military forces on Avenida Atlantica. In my opinion it is probably safer than ever.

I didn't hear any gunfire during my visit in February.

BTW, Stockholm isn't safe, or it's safe until a crazy Muslim tries to kill you or some immigrant youths from the Middle East tries to rob you. I should know since I live in Stockholm.

1) Stop playing GTA or watch too many movies.

2) Rio de Janeiro is very safe, no need to brag to others about your survival in Rio De Janeiro and say how good of a war veteran you are, because Rio de Janeiro has nothing dangerous. Just stay at the right places and at the right moment.

3) I've never had trouble in Brazil, the only place I got scammed is in Japan and the only place I got attacked is in HongKong. The difference between Brazil and Asia is in Brazil you smell the danger from far away and you know what you expect.

4) Don't be dumb, stay away from trouble and don't scratch where it is not itchy.

Hi guys,

I will be heading to Rio sometime next month and I am happy to stumble upon all of your valuable postings. I've tried contacting the mid priced (local Brazilian) hotels in Copa, and it seems like most to all of them weren't "guest friendly". I decided to stick with an American brand near Centro, who confirmed that visitors are allowed on the premises. IMO I think you may have a better time dealing with the American brand hotels regarding a "guest friendly" policy.

Looking forward to posting more in the future!

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2170736]I didn't hear any gunfire during my visit in February.

BTW, Stockholm isn't safe, or it's safe until a crazy Muslim tries to kill you or some immigrant youths from the Middle East tries to rob you. I should know since I live in Stockholm.[/QUOTE]There is gunfire everyday-you might think its fire crackers.

Monday I was eating at Miguel Galetos when a buddy of mine passed by. He said he was getting ready to go to the beach and would be at #147. I told him that I would meet him there after I finished eating and put on my beach clothes. I had planned to go downtown, but I was not aware that it was a holiday until I saw all kinds of shops closed. MF!

Walking to the beach, I ran into a buddy that lives there sitting in the middle of Ave Atlantica and stopped to talk for about 30 minutes. Then I went over to the beach where my friend was.

He introduced me to the owner and the owner asked if I knew another friend of ours as well. My buddy was already eating fried chicken and rice so I ordered up a couple of caipirinhas. My buddy said he was waiting for a chick that he knew who used to work at 4x4 to show up.

Chick finally showed up and I asked her about friends. She tried to scrape one up but it being a holiday a lot of folks were out of town. She finally found one and showed me her pic. DAMN! I approved. Well I approved until I found out this broad lives in Campo Grande. If she came all the way to Copa there is no telling how much she would want. So I told the girl that I would just go to Vila Mimosa later instead. (I also asked her what she does these days since she no longer works at the terma. She said she just sits around the house and waits for old clients to call.).

We sat there until nightfall. My buddy was saying something about going back to the room to get more money. I said man don't worry about that. I got money. I had 200 reais on me. When I finally asked for the bill dude said 368 reais! I said what the fuck!

The guy ran down the price of everything. 80 reais for the chicken, 25 reais each for 6 caipirinhas was all I needed to hear to know how he was ripping us off. I buy bigger caipirinhas at the next place down for 10 reais!

I assumed that since my buddies knew and had dealt with the guy before that he was on the up and up. I guess it was dangerous to assume that because they are vets they know what the prices should be. Lesson learned to always ask the prices beforehand no matter who you think you are with and it is also probably a good idea to pay as you go.

After the beach I went to the hotel in hopes and changing clothes and going to eat. Those caipirinhas that I had had other ideas though. I passed out on the bed. I woke up about 9 and finally headed out to eat. My buddy that lives there hit me up to see if I was still going to Vila Mimosa. I told him that I would be going as soon as I ate.

I hit him up when I finished and he said he would go down and get on the bus on Nossa Senhora and let me know whether it was the 455, 456, or 457 since I was at a stop farther down. I hopped on the 457 Abolição and paid my 3.60 reias on the way to VM.

As the holiday would have it, there were very slim pickings. I would say there were maybe 12 chicks in all of VM. You can imagine how many were doable (maybe 3). I decided to do one more walk around when I saw a young chocolate chick with a big ass.

She said 60 reais for 30 minutes. I countered with 50 reais. She went on about the cost of the room bla bla bla so we settled on 55. The guy gave me my 5 reais change from 60 and I told her that is what I will use to get the bus out of there.

When we got to the room I probably sat there 5 minutes just rubbing on her sexy body. She went for the condom for the BJ and I said no no no. She said she would have to get to know me better to do it without. Fuck it then.

She had the prettiest pussy and it was fat too. I could just imagine my mouth touching it, but no way in VM! She rode me like a champ then we hit a few more positions. I blasted and left a satisfied customer. My buddy had finished his session as well so we walked back to the bus stop and the 457 back to Copacabana came at 12:30 on the dot.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2171789]After the beach I went to the hotel in hopes and changing clothes and going to eat. Those caipirinhas that I had had other ideas though. I passed out on the bed. I woke up about 9 and finally headed out to eat. My buddy that lives there hit me up to see if I was still going to Vila Mimosa. I told him that I would be going as soon as I ate.

I hit him up when I finished and he said he would go down and get on the bus on Nossa Senhora and let me know whether it was the 455, 456, or 457 since I was at a stop farther down. I hopped on the 457 Abolio and paid my 3.60 reias on the way to VM.

As the holiday would have it, there were very slim pickings. I would say there were maybe 12 chicks in all of VM. You can imagine how many were doable (maybe 3). I decided to do one more walk around when I saw a young chocolate chick with a big ass.

She said 60 reais for 30 minutes. I countered with 50 reais. She went on about the cost of the room bla bla bla so we settled on 55. The guy gave me my 5 reais change from 60 and I told her that is what I will use to get the bus out of there.

When we got to the room I probably sat there 5 minutes just rubbing on her sexy body. She went for the condom for the BJ and I said no no no. She said she would have to get to know me better to do it without. Fuck it then.

She had the prettiest pussy and it was fat too. I could just imagine my mouth touching it, but no way in VM! She rode me like a champ then we hit a few more positions. I blasted and left a satisfied customer. My buddy had finished his session as well so we walked back to the bus stop and the 457 back to Copacabana came at 12:30 on the dot.[/QUOTE]First off, thanks for your posts. Secondly, I find it amusing that it was 30 minutes for 55 reais, and freakin 80 reais for a some chicken. A reference from your previous post. You probably could have had all three, 30 minutes, chicken and the caipirinhas for 80 reais at VM! That's Rio for ya! Thanks again.

[QUOTE=MaximusDan;2170914]Hi guys,

I will be heading to Rio sometime next month and I am happy to stumble upon all of your valuable postings. I've tried contacting the mid priced (local Brazilian) hotels in Copa, and it seems like most to all of them weren't "guest friendly". I decided to stick with an American brand near Centro, who confirmed that visitors are allowed on the premises. IMO I think you may have a better time dealing with the American brand hotels regarding a "guest friendly" policy.[/QUOTE]You might want to run the Centro hotel by some of the experienced Rio forum members. If you are just there to monger, it might be perfectly suitable. If you're going to spend your down time on the beach or near the beach, I think it can be problematic.

Went to Malaga again and met an ex Afrodite girl who I had a great session with there. She is a cute negra with a bubble butt and nice titties and 20.

Room is 70 reais and girl got 200 for 3 hours including CIM.

This girl has the monster slurpy-one of the best bbbjs I've had in years. SOL is her name and its shining!

Pounding her ass after BBBJ could make a giant bust a nut. Ended up with giant CIM and a guarana and a smile.

This was after fun in the jacuzzi. Great friendly demeanor and happy girl.

Last night went to smash JLO at Ave Treze De Maio-booked a 7 pm slot and got there early-they ushered me into room to wait for her and she showed up pronto.

Body is sick-ass is very firm and grip is tremendous-titties are very full and firm-no silico and her face is JLO no make up needed.

DFK very nice and she likes to take control and I bust a nut after 35-40 minutes her pussy game is mean.

I left happy and she is goin out with me at weekend and stayin over on a freebie. Its give and take with putas who like you. Go hit them off at work-put some change in their pocket-give them a tip. Work it.

I stumbled with wobbly legs up a dark ass Uruguyana which goes eerie after markets close untill you reach near Vargas it livens up but all good. Hit 210,5,all the grimey spots to the left but didn't find anything special-.

One hot negra who had a bad attitude so I left her in 210 with a bad attotude.

Today is ex 81 girl comin for a house visit-200 for 4 hours including CIM. Problem is I can't quite remember how it was loool. Oh well w'ell find out and throw the dice.

[QUOTE=MaximusDan;2170914]Hi guys,

I will be heading to Rio sometime next month and I am happy to stumble upon all of your valuable postings. I've tried contacting the mid priced (local Brazilian) hotels in Copa, and it seems like most to all of them weren't "guest friendly". I decided to stick with an American brand near Centro, who confirmed that visitors are allowed on the premises. IMO I think you may have a better time dealing with the American brand hotels regarding a "guest friendly" policy.

Looking forward to posting more in the future![/QUOTE]As stated below look in this section this past January or so there was few postings about hotels, I recommend the Pestana as girl friendly it's right on the beach.

[QUOTE=Mangera;2171888]First off, thanks for your posts. Secondly, I find it amusing that it was 30 minutes for 55 reais, and freakin 80 reais for a some chicken. A reference from your previous post. You probably could have had all three, 30 minutes, chicken and the caipirinhas for 80 reais at VM! That's Rio for ya! Thanks again.[/QUOTE]I have been here two months now and no longer use the food bars or kisokes on Atlantica Av. Three times now they have tried to add things onto the bill. Each time I was with a Brazilian lady and she checked bill and found the errors. Once it was 150 reals out.

It's plain and simple, they are stealing from tourists. I know enough Portuguese to tell them this and tell them I am not coming back. The stupidity beggars belief as the restaurants are empty. If they served good honest food and the bill was accurate I would come back every day. I have also had the chair sellers on the beach trying the same scams. Again really stupid business as you never go back to them. In two months these are the only people who have tried to do this, I have had no bad experiences with other Brazilian people.

I always pay as I go now and don't allow the bill to be paid at the end. Re kiosks restaurants, I just don't bother at all with them now.

[QUOTE=Dave1111;2172405]I have been here two months now and no longer use the food bars or kisokes on Atlantica Av. Three times now they have tried to add things onto the bill. Each time I was with a Brazilian lady and she checked bill and found the errors. Once it was 150 reals out.

It's plain and simple, they are stealing from tourists. I know enough Portuguese to tell them this and tell them I am not coming back. The stupidity beggars belief as the restaurants are empty. If they served good honest food and the bill was accurate I would come back every day. I have also had the chair sellers on the beach trying the same scams. Again really stupid business as you never go back to them. In two months these are the only people who have tried to do this, I have had no bad experiences with other Brazilian people.

I always pay as I go now and don't allow the bill to be paid at the end. Re kiosks restaurants, I just don't bother at all with them now.[/QUOTE]That is absolutely correct. Pay as you go is the best policy to follow. This applies to every location, at any time.

I've seen plenty of gringos getting ripped off with absurd bills, at Copacabana beach.

Some advice to avoid getting fooled:
* Get a tan as soon as possible. A pale (or pink) gringo is more likely to get ripped off.
* Figure out the correct prices of drinks and chairs as soon as possible.
* Don't go to the beach like a first-time gringo wearing socks in your flip-flops, changing to swimming trunks on the beach using a towel, lying on a towel or bringing massive camerabags.
* Nevers accept a beach-chair or parasol without asking the price.
* When buying drinks from the beach barracas always inform of the prices before you order.
* The beach barracas are obliged to have a large pricelist well visible in the barracas.
* When finding your favourite spot on the beach, become a regular customer in a beach barraca and they won't try to fool you.
* Buy drinks from the drink sellers who pass on the beach carrying isopor-boxes. Many of them are hard-working guys from Zona Norte who carry heavy loads every day in the hot sand. They deserve business. Find one or two of these guys who charge decent prices and always have plenty of ice in the box and become his regular customer. He´ll treat you like a king and always have a icecold Guaraviton waiting for you.
* If you stay for some time in Rio. Buy your own beach-chair and parasol. There are many China-shops on NS Cop selling theam cheap. It's much nicer to have your own fresh chair and don't have to sit in a beach-chair from the beach barracas that smells of old sweat and farts.
* Also if you stay some time in Rio, buy a small soft termal bag. Bring you own icecold drinks, fruitsalad or sandwiches. No need to be ashamed, many cariocas bring their own coolingbags filled with goodies.
* Maybe somebody wants to try going to the beach in the suburbano-way? Buy a lot of cans in the supermarket, pick up a bag of ice in a depósito de bebida and chill your own beer on the beach. To blend in like a suburbano you should also bring a grilled chicken and eat farofa directly from a plasticbag using your fingers.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2172330]I left happy and she is goin out with me at weekend and stayin over on a freebie. Its give and take with putas who like you. Go hit them off at work-put some change in their pocket-give them a tip. Work it..[/QUOTE]That's the reason why I don't like too many gringos at the low trash spots.

The price go up and the service downhill.

Recently my favorite girl (spot) raised their prices.

I'm glad they did it (to get some selection and calm down).

Hat up to my favorite porteiro.

[QUOTE=JuveStadium;2172827]That's the reason why I don't like too many gringos at the low trash spots.

The price go up and the service downhill.

Recently my favorite girl (spot) raised their prices.

I'm glad they did it (to get some selection and calm down).

Hat up to my favorite porteiro.[/QUOTE]What's your point? I go where the prices are low and girls are hot-once in a while give the hot broke girl a little something to hold and she will pay it back manyfold. I don't really let off where the hottest girls are to my taste cause to each his own. People got to do their own footwork like I had to to learn the ropes.

[QUOTE=JuveStadium;2172827]That's the reason why I don't like too many gringos at the low trash spots.

The price go up and the service downhill.

Recently my favorite girl (spot) raised their prices.

I'm glad they did it (to get some selection and calm down).

Hat up to my favorite porteiro.[/QUOTE]That has nothing to do with gringos, prices go up everywhere due to the crisis. There are more locals in upscale spots than gringos. Gringos are only 0,5% of the puteiro clients.

Does any of the famous porn stars work at termasin.

Mayara Rodrigues.

Ju pantera.

Sumaya.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2173167]That has nothing to do with gringos, prices go up everywhere due to the crisis. There are more locals in upscale spots than gringos. Gringos are only 0,5% of the puteiro clients.[/QUOTE]There is no crisis if you have a crisis women work for less money (look at Greece you can session for 2-5 euro).

They are just greedy and want more money for lees (bad) services.

That's why they're loosing their clients.

Some gringos give tips and bribes where they're not supposed too.

And spoiled the women.

Then they think the all gringos are the same.

Expecting bribes and tips for nothing.

[QUOTE=MaximusDan;2170914]Hi guys,

I will be heading to Rio sometime next month and I am happy to stumble upon all of your valuable postings. I've tried contacting the mid priced (local Brazilian) hotels in Copa, and it seems like most to all of them weren't "guest friendly". I decided to stick with an American brand near Centro, who confirmed that visitors are allowed on the premises. IMO I think you may have a better time dealing with the American brand hotels regarding a "guest friendly" policy.

Looking forward to posting more in the future![/QUOTE]I have always used Best Western in Copa. Right opposite to a police station and a train station. Almost walking distance to Monte Carlo and good access to restaurants. There is no problems here for taking guests.

[QUOTE=JuveStadium;2173250]There is no crisis if you have a crisis women work for less money (look at Greece you can session for 2-5 euro).

They are just greedy and want more money for lees (bad) services.

That's why they're loosing their clients.

Some gringos give tips and bribes where they're not supposed too.

And spoiled the women.

Then they think the all gringos are the same.

Expecting bribes and tips for nothing.[/QUOTE]I don't tip but I offer drinks. They don't only ask gringos for tips. You just have to know how to answer. They ask everyone for tips but the only difference is that Brazilians know how to answer. Gringos tip girls because they can't answer or they think it is common in Brazil. I also saw many Brazilians tipping girls. Trash spots are shitty, drinks are as expensive as in the termas. It is very smelly and not good for non-smokers.

Girls always acted that way, asking for tips is not new to Brazil.

Don't' worry Gringos will never affect puteiros because there are few of them.

2 Euros in Greece? I will choose Greece as my next mongering destination.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2173167]There are more locals in upscale spots than gringos. Gringos are only 0,5% of the puteiro clients.[/QUOTE]So, you're saying that for every 200 mongers in the upscale spots, only 1 is a gringo? No offense, but you may want to check your math.

[QUOTE=JuveStadium;2173250]There is no crisis if you have a crisis women work for less money (look at Greece you can session for 2-5 euro).

They are just greedy and want more money for lees (bad) services.

That's why they're loosing their clients.

Some gringos give tips and bribes where they're not supposed too.

And spoiled the women.

Then they think the all gringos are the same.

Expecting bribes and tips for nothing.[/QUOTE]Absolute BS! I give a little bit once in a while if I encounter someone who don't want to do BBBJ. Occasionally If my favourite girl hs outdone herself I might slip her a bit to let her know I appreciate her but my girls never expect it. They know what's up-I never get bad service from anyone I know and like but you can be generous sometimes without being stupid. No one should pay just because but once in a while do it strategically and you will win and get it paid back in many ways.Matter fact I think that’s part of the reason I’ve been able to have many terma girls for free because they feel appreciated/ indebted together with some feelings.Ive always been kind to the ones I really like but you go ahead and pay 5 euros in Greece and I’m sure you’ll get a lovely cbj for your souvlaki

[QUOTE=Chezz;2173326]So, you're saying that for every 200 mongers in the upscale spots, only 1 is a gringo? No offense, but you may want to check your math.[/QUOTE]We are in Brazil! So of course the majority are not gringos-that's just misplaced arrogance-dude the gringo money don't mean that much-they would all close if the likes of you were the only customers! Facts.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2173344]Absolute BS! I give a little bit once in a while if I encounter someone who don't want to do BBBJ. Occasionally If my favourite girl hs outdone herself I might slip her a bit to let her know I appreciate her but my girls never expect it. They know what's up-I never get bad service from anyone I know and like but you can be generous sometimes without being stupid. No one should pay just because but once in a while do it strategically and you will win and get it paid back in many ways.[/QUOTE]Fuck me, I can't believe it, but I'm actually agreeing with you here. Your response really hit the nail on the head.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Chezz;2173326]So, you're saying that for every 200 mongers in the upscale spots, only 1 is a gringo? No offense, but you may want to check your math.[/QUOTE]Good you know how to calculate, yes only 1 is a gringo. No need to check my math you just gave me the result.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2173345]We are in Brazil! So of course the majority are not gringos-that's just misplaced arrogance-dude the gringo money don't mean that much-they would all close if the likes of you were the only customers! Facts.[/QUOTE]Only gringos think their money means too much. I've been to many spots and I always saw more Brazilians than gringos. There were days that I did not see any gringo. Gringos will never affect the Brazilian sex market.

[QUOTE=JuveStadium;2172827]That's the reason why I don't like too many gringos at the low trash spots.

The price go up and the service downhill.

Recently my favorite girl (spot) raised their prices.

I'm glad they did it (to get some selection and calm down).

Hat up to my favorite porteiro.[/QUOTE]Completely agree with you, I do not like any gringos in trash spots. They are disgrace to go this low. For gringos are mid and high-end girls, for all others trash.

[QUOTE=JuveStadium;2173250]There is no crisis if you have a crisis women work for less money (look at Greece you can session for 2-5 euro).

They are just greedy and want more money for lees (bad) services.

That's why they're loosing their clients.

Some gringos give tips and bribes where they're not supposed too.

And spoiled the women.

Then they think the all gringos are the same.

Expecting bribes and tips for nothing.[/QUOTE]Could you explain what the word "bribe" means and how you can give to a girl a "bribe"?

[QUOTE=Traveller44;2173375]Could you explain what the word "bribe" means and how you can give to a girl a "bribe"?[/QUOTE]You tell her you will give her extra money beyond the original fee for things that she would not do with you otherwise. Like guys paying extra for BBBJ or anal. That is a bribe.

From google: persuade (someone) to act in one's favor, typically illegally or dishonestly, by a gift of money or other inducement.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2173382]You tell her you will give her extra money beyond the original fee for things that she would not do with you otherwise. Like guys paying extra for BBBJ or anal. That is a bribe.

From google: persuade (someone) to act in one's favor, typically illegally or dishonestly, by a gift of money or other inducement.[/QUOTE]Which part is for that dishonest or illegal? If you pay for additional services that is extra, not a bribe or tip. Bribe is completely a different thing.

[QUOTE=Traveller44;2173384]Which part is for that dishonest or illegal? If you pay for additional services that is extra, not a bribe or tip. Bribe is completely a different thing.[/QUOTE]You missed the word TYPICALLY. You have never heard of the phrase bribing your kids to clean their room? Having to bribe your wife to get some pussy from her? It means paying them off for something they should be doing anyway.

If I take a chick upstairs at 4x4 and we are both naked and she starts putting a rubber on my dick and I say no suck it without the rubber. I will give you a tip. That is a bribe. I assumed it would be included in the service. If not then I would have gotten the price to do it without the rubber up front before even going to the room. So I am bribing her by giving her extra money for something she should have been doing in the first place.

When you go to a restaurant and tip the waiter for the best table that is a bribe. They should have been giving you the best table regardless.

In the Medellin section you see guys going to the room with a chick in a $10 casa and bribing them an extra $20 for a BBBJ. I laugh becauee I have never had a problem getting a BBBJ in those casas without giving extra money. So one person is paying for extra services that are all included for the next person?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2173404]You missed the word TYPICALLY. You have never heard of the phrase bribing your kids to clean their room? It means giving them something for something they should be doing anyway.

If I take a chick upstairs at 4x4 and we are both naked and she starts putting a rubber on my dick and I say no suck it without the rubber. I will give you a tip. That is a bribe. I assumed it would be included in the service. If not then I would have gotten the price to do it without the rubber up front before even going to the room. So I am bribing her by giving her extra money for something she should have been doing in the first place.

When you go to a restaurant and tip the waiter for the best table that is a bribe. They should have been giving you the best table regardless.

In the Medellin section you see guys going to the room with a chick in a $10 casa and bribing them an extra $20 for a BBBJ. I laugh becauee I have never had a problem getting a BBBJ in those casas without giving extra money.[/QUOTE]Never heard that word in this context. For me bribes are given only to officials(corruption) and goes with a word"bribery". Fortunately I do not tip waitresses :) In my price level there are never questions about any extra fees.

Dany's msg. Are / be 185 #1308 Went there because I saw a picture of Paula and wanted to try her. When I got there, the madam said Paula doesn't work there anymore and would I like to see the line up. Since I was there I saw the lineup which was okay. I picked Diana. 1 hour for are 150.00. She told me it was her first time there and that I was her first customer ever. Although a little inexperience she tried very hard to please and with more time I'm sure she will be very good but for now I give her 3 and 1/2 stars. Pretty blond with a great looking ass.

Bella Donna's msg. Av. 13 De Mayo #505 Went there after seeing pictures of Vick. Did see the lineup and Vick and another girl named Luna looked good. Stuck to my guns and picked Vick and what a great choice it was. Solid 5 stars and what I would call a superstar provider. She can be GFE and or pse in one session. She is a dark morena with a great attitude. Highly recommended. 1 hour are 150.00.

Klass msg. Are / be 156 #1439 Went there after seeing pictures of Bruna but for some reason when I first went there I had #1436 written down. When I reached the door there was no doorbell so it didn't look right. I didn't knock and since I didn't have wifi at the time, took the elevator down and went to Bel Prazer instead. Next day I got the correct address and walked over there. After entering, the madam said Bruna is working there but was not in yet, it was around 13:00. I then asked for a lineup but she said all the girls were busy. Never went back.

Bel Prazer are / be 185 #2114 Hard to choose a girl from their website since there are wearing pants and tops. Had the madam show me the lineup. About 12 girls but most short and over weight only one in my eyes looked good. Ana luz, a very pretty morena. I give her a generous 2 stars. Only light kissing and sometime moving her head when trying to kiss. No BBBJ only CBJ. The act itself was mechanical very un-Brazilian. My recommendation would be to stay away from her. 1 hour was I believe are 170.00. What happened to this place? It used to have some of the best providers but again, it's all about timing in our sport.

U24 I think I went to early around 11:00. Only 6 girls, all topless with one that I would do. Didn't get the pricing on this place but I can see where this would be hit or miss.

Since the cost has been posted before, I'll just give my comments here.

4 x4 Thalita, slim morena, pretty. 3 and 1/2 stars, a good time. Melissa, Very pretty great looking ass and very friendly. A solid 4 stars and would repeat.

Cancun, Mel, another slim morena 3 and 1/2 stars, also a good time. India, slim morena, first day working there but used to work at a prive. Another 3 and 1/2 stars. She also told me she works as an uber driver on weekends.

MV 30 Alana, tall with light skin. She reminds me of Pete Sampras wife Bridgette Wilson. A younger version anyways. A solid 4 stars.

T65 My first visit to 65 was after a day trip to Angra Dos Reis. Got there around 21:15 with about 6 girls there, mostly older. One caught my eye but she was sitting with a customer. At around 21:20-2125 some of the girls got up and headed out the door. One was the one I liked. I thought they were going for a smoke break or something but when they didn't come back in 15 minutes I asked what happened to them. They said they were allowed to go home since it was slow. Only three girls left all on the older side so I left. After going to Sao Paulo went back to 65 looking for the girl who caught my eye. Didn't see her and there were about 7 girls in the boites. I was almost out of there when a black girl comes through the door. She looked the best so called her over. Venessa. Good looking with a very hard body. She told me she works out a lot and it shows. She also told me it was her first time doing this and I'm thinking oh no, another inexperience girl. She also let me know I was her first customer. Can you believe it, three first timer on this trip. Anyways Venessa gets a solid 5 stars. Another that I would consider a superstar. She was the only girl that I repeated with this trip. Also on a side note, she had the biggest clit I have ever seen on a girl. I was sticking out at least a good inch. I actually felt it when stroking her above her bikini in the boite, but in the room and see it live was awesome. Highly recommend.

To conclude. Overall Cancun had the best lineup with 4 x4 second and a tie for last between T65 and MV30. If not for the only girls I took up at 65 and 30, I would not have session there. I did go to 502 and their lineup would have come in third. I didn't session there because all the girls I liked were sitting with customers and I didn't want to wait.

[QUOTE=QuackUp;2173465]Since the cost has been posted before, I'll just give my comments here.

4 x4 Thalita, slim morena, pretty. 3 and 1/2 stars, a good time. Melissa, Very pretty great looking ass and very friendly. A solid 4 stars and would repeat.

Cancun, Mel, another slim morena 3 and 1/2 stars, also a good time. India, slim morena, first day working there but used to work at a prive. Another 3 and 1/2 stars. She also told me she works as an uber driver on weekends.[/QUOTE]What about the price in Cancun and 4 by 4?

[QUOTE=Traveller44;2173384]Which part is for that dishonest or illegal? If you pay for additional services that is extra, not a bribe or tip. Bribe is completely a different thing.[/QUOTE]It was neither a bribe nor extra. He gave some more money after the session because he was happy about the provided service so it sure was a tip.

[QUOTE=Traveller44;2173373]Completely agree with you, I do not like any gringos in trash spots. They are disgrace to go this low. For gringos are mid and high-end girls, for all others trash.[/QUOTE]Do you mean trash girls are for Brazilians? I am happy that more and more gringos stick to trash clubs. I don't know why many people think mid and high end girls are for gringos, in high end spots there are way more Brazilians than Gringos.

My opinion, Trash girls are for cheap or poor people or adventurous people that like to try everything for experience. So you mean you also have to stay away from trash clubs?

The only places that are gringo joints are Mabs and stripclubs around Copacabana but that doesn't mean that the girls are mid end or high end. Many of them are at the same level as thrash girls.

Been in Rio now for about a week and a half and this place is a diamond in the rough. That's a perfect analogy because if you are not aware of a variety of places to go, your fun will be limited and you'll leave thinking that Sosua or Cartagena can compare. There really is no comparison given the amount of options all day long.

Since arriving, I've went to 4 X 4 three times and never sessioned. The talent has really went down hill here. You only have a few pretty faces and most are covered in tattoos which I'm getting accustomed to given their popularity amongst Rio women. Also, some of their talent is out of shape and really shouldn't be in the termas. I was eyeing two gals. One was occupied with another John and the other did not provide enough chemistry for me to proceed (she wasn't very responsive to my questions). Entry was 50 R as I didn't session. I believe 40 minutes was 310 R, so roughly 360 R all-in. I went to Cancun late one night around 10 PM and the gals were in short supply given the time. There were about 6 in total. You pay 80 R for entry and that entry fee also grants you 80 R worth of drinks / food. I went in and was about to walk right out and then this little angel appeared LOL. She was fine, slim and sexy. Sessioned with her but Jimmy Jack Rabbit wasn't in full throttle yet. Probably drank too much with the 80 R consumption smh. The total price for 40 minutes including the entry fee was $115. That's around 310 R for the session and 80 R for the entry fee, 390 R all-in which. Stopped through Monte Carlo and I believe there was an 100 R entry fee. There were a few nice women in there and I set my eyes on one who was super thick and toned. A few seconds after she sat down, I looked down and noticed massive amounts of blonde hair on her arms and legs. I had to get the fuck out of there quick. Didn't know if she was a man or had too many testosterone shots and I wasn't about to find out. Next stop was Solarium. Here you pay an entry fee, I believe its 110 R, session fee 325 R (40 minutes), room fee (50 R - 70 R). My total bill was 547 R (cash payment) and I had two coronas. This is the GFE spot. They have a few stunnas, one of which I had. Super thick and body is tighttttt. Tore her soft ass up. They had another stunna which I'll be going back for in a week or so. Here you'll see guys kissing the women in the boate and them caressing the guys. It's a tad pricier but IMO it was the best overall experience of the termas.

For the trash spots, if you get off the Uriguania metro subway station stop and instead of going in the direction of 4 X 4, you head in the opposite direction, you'll run right into them. Just walk and let the door lights be your guide. There are about 8 strip clubs in a 2-block radius. At these places, you can get sessions starting at 50 R -55 R. I came across this one slim thickum. Fucked her in the mouth, pussy and the ass. Damage was about 65 R-70 R and I gave her an 8 R tip which she was overly appreciative of. That was by far the best value bang of the trip. Her photos are attached so you can see why she gets that title.

If you're on Copacabana, the best options are Casablanca and Barbarella, stay the hell away from MABS. When the Venezuelans come, hopefully they'll resurrect this place. It's no reason why the talent there is so poor. There is 1-in-100 chance of you finding something worthwhile there. With that said, you can get a session for 75 R -100 R. If you find a hidden gem, that's a home run. Casablanca had alot of talent when I went there. Session is 400 R and they charge 80 R for entrance although that can be negotiated to 40 R -50 R depending on the night. Entry fee allows you 2 drinks. Go to Dolce Vida and Kalabria (K Club) for semi pros. I was there last night and there was some talent in both. Doce Vida has good music and the women were dancing. The standard price for women here is 300 R. I was negotiating with one, tried to get it for 100 R, she wasn't having it. After several minutes of negotiation at 150 R and 175 R, we settled on 200 R. Her body was nicer in the clothes as you could see her breast implant surgery scars underneath tatas. Bunda was soft though so it was nice dipping up in those guts.

For Copacabana bars, go to this area around Blue Agave (Rua Aires de Saldanha, 21). It's about 4 bars around here where most of the locals go hang out. The bar to the left of Blue Agave will have the American sports games playing (currently the NBA playoffs). Two doors down to the left is another bar which looks more like a beverage wholesaler. They will switch the channel to American games upon request if soccer is not on. Most of the locals go here and there is always a crowd. Across the street from Blue Agave is a bar which seems to have a younger college crowd. Haven't ventured over there but will do so at some point.

For nightlife action, there is Fosfobox in Copacabana. This is kind of a hippie crowd and Wednesday nights, there seems to be an adequate number of gay men. I've went twice and the downstairs music is hip hop. Downstairs opens at 1 AM. You can find a number of bars in Lapa with the younger grungier version of Rio women. I went to this one place, met a gal who was there by herself. Two days later, she was sending me nude unsolicited photos and the day after, she came to my apartment to get the business. It was almost like college, come to the crib, we'll kick it and then handle business LOL. For the top notch women, you need to go to Leblon. If you go to Stuzzi on a Friday or Saturday night, you'll see the cream of the crop there and at the bar next door. Most of these women look like models. They seem to only converse with each other but it's good eye candy and you can still shoot your shot. I gave my number to one but she didn't text me. Should've got her number, oh well. On to the next. Stuzzi and the bar next door closes at 2 AM. No worries though, the next stop on the map is Vitrinni Lounge and All-In in Barra the Tijuca. I went to Vitrinni first and their operation is a bit awkward as they don't play music in the main room until 1 AM. You have people in the main room just standing around. First time I've ever witnessed this done. I was there at 11:30 PM and wasn't about to wait a full 2 hours for the scene to get jumping in the main area. I left and went next door to All-In. It was a younger crowd but they were definitely having fun and the music was good. Samba with some hip hop and top 40 mixed in. The music is so loud here that if you don't speak Portuguese it's no problem. Just say the generic questions and get the number.

Speaking of Portuguese, it's not mandatory to know the language but it does help. Most of the women you'll come across won't speak English or Spanish. However, if a woman likes you, she'll have no problem exchanging communication via Google Translator. All you have to do is get her to like you. First thing first, get a script and recite that shit like you're a telemarketer LOL! Oi, Qual seu nome?, De onde voce?, Quantos minutos de aqui?, Quantos anos tem? After getting in good with her, tell her your portuguese is limited (meu portuguese es limitada) and then bring out the app. You've planted the seed and Google Translate will do the rest. Plus after a few Google Translate exchanges, you should be drinking and dancing. That's universal language.

[QUOTE=QuackUp;2173460]Dany's msg. Are / be 185 #1308 Went there because I saw a picture of Paula and wanted to try her. When I got there, the madam said Paula doesn't work there anymore and would I like to see the line up. Since I was there I saw the lineup which was okay. I picked Diana. 1 hour for are 150.00. She told me it was her first time there and that I was her first customer ever. Although a little inexperience she tried very hard to please and with more time I'm sure she will be very good but for now I give her 3 and 1/2 stars. Pretty blond with a great looking ass.

Bella Donna's msg. Av. 13 De Mayo #505 Went there after seeing pictures of Vick. Did see the lineup and Vick and another girl named Luna looked good. Stuck to my guns and picked Vick and what a great choice it was. Solid 5 stars and what I would call a superstar provider. She can be GFE and or pse in one session. She is a dark morena with a great attitude. Highly recommended. 1 hour are 150.00.

Klass msg. Are / be 156 #1439 Went there after seeing pictures of Bruna but for some reason when I first went there I had #1436 written down. When I reached the door there was no doorbell so it didn't look right. I didn't knock and since I didn't have wifi at the time, took the elevator down and went to Bel Prazer instead. Next day I got the correct address and walked over there. After entering, the madam said Bruna is working there but was not in yet, it was around 13:00. I then asked for a lineup but she said all the girls were busy. Never went back.

Bel Prazer are / be 185 #2114 Hard to choose a girl from their website since there are wearing pants and tops. Had the madam show me the lineup. About 12 girls but most short and over weight only one in my eyes looked good. Ana luz, a very pretty morena. I give her a generous 2 stars. Only light kissing and sometime moving her head when trying to kiss. No BBBJ only CBJ. The act itself was mechanical very un-Brazilian. My recommendation would be to stay away from her. 1 hour was I believe are 170.00. What happened to this place? It used to have some of the best providers but again, it's all about timing in our sport.

U24 I think I went to early around 11:00. Only 6 girls, all topless with one that I would do. Didn't get the pricing on this place but I can see where this would be hit or miss.[/QUOTE]Bel Prazer has definitely fell on hard times LOL. The talent has dropped off the cliff. One of the gals that used to work there, Pitty, now works at Eden Spa, said her family worked in the area so she had to relocate. May be the reason why others did as well. Is Klass Massage on Avenida Rio Branco?

Hi stmp,

Yes Rio Branco, I guess the auto correct changed it to are / be, it also changed the sign for the Real.

I came back from VM and hit Mabs at 1 am. Sad, sad sight. There were maybe 8 chicks there. I would have fucked 3 of them I guess. One came over to me and I asked her price. She said 300 reais. I said is that for 1 week? She said it was for 1 hour. I started laughing. Good luck with that. Serious. You could take yourself to 4X4 for a guaranteed good fucking for that kind of money.

I pointed out to my buddy the old blonde White chick that used to be at Terraco. She looks about 60 now. I said man that chick is still out here? He said well where the fuck else is she going to go? I said she wouldn't let me fuck her back in the day. Talking about she didn't go with Black guys. He said I bet she would now. I wasn't trying to find out. I stood around a little while longer then was like fuck it; I am about to leave. I didn't plan on taking anyone anyway since I was straight from VM.

Just as I was about to walk off and cross the street a chick showed up and came over to me. She introduced herself as Gabriela and I said I am Senhor Pao Duro. I said some crazy shit to which she got offended and said I didn't have to talk like that. I was thinking does this chick realize she just walked up to a hooker pick-up spot and not a board meeting. There was something different about this chick. I forgot how the subject came up but she said that she was in school. Riiiigggghhhhtttt. Just like everybody else here. And what do you study? She said business. I said let me see your ID then. This broad cold pulls out a valid student ID, but it didn't say business, it said law! I said I don't see any Gabriela on here! She caught herself and was like oops and pointed out her real name. I said why Gabriela then? She said she thinks it is a pretty name.

I asked her how much she wanted and she said 200. I said for how long. She said 1 hour. She had already told me where she lived - alone with no kids. I said and if you don't get a customer what do you plan on doing for the night? She said go back home. Wow. That is a long way to go this late empty handed. I said I tell you what. I will be taking an Uber that way at 5 am so you just stay with me until then and that way you will have a ride. She agreed. Had a great time. Woke up at 5:30 and caught the Uber at 6. He dropped me at Galeao then dropped her home. 46 reais for the Uber (and of course 200 for her).

I have been talking to her on whatsapp. She said when she met me was her first time back out in a long time. I kind of figured that when she said 200 while everyone else wanted 300 and up. And she was probably the best chick out there. She said she had a boyfriend that was helping her out but her family would give him a hard time so he finally gave up. She goes to church in her free time and is trying to go hoeing in Amsterdam where she can stay with friends. She seems pretty smart. I thought she would have had better plans than to go to Europe just to sell pussy. But oh well.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2173777]I came back from VM and hit Mabs at 1 am. Sad, sad sight. There were maybe 8 chicks there. I would have fucked 3 of them I guess. One came over to me and I asked her price. She said 300 reais. I said is that for 1 week? She said it was for 1 hour. I started laughing. Good luck with that. Serious. You could take yourself to 4X4 for a guaranteed good fucking for that kind of money.

I pointed out to my buddy the old blonde White chick that used to be at Terraco. She looks about 60 now. I said man that chick is still out here? He said well where the fuck else is she going to go? I said she wouldn't let me fuck her back in the day. Talking about she didn't go with Black guys. He said I bet she would now. I wasn't trying to find out. I stood around a little while longer then was like fuck it; I am about to leave. I didn't plan on taking anyone anyway since I was straight from VM.

Just as I was about to walk off and cross the street a chick showed up and came over to me. She introduced herself as Gabriela and I said I am Senhor Pao Duro. I said some crazy shit to which she got offended and said I didn't have to talk like that. I was thinking does this chick realize she just walked up to a hooker pick-up spot and not a board meeting. There was something different about this chick. I forgot how the subject came up but she said that she was in school. Riiiigggghhhhtttt. Just like everybody else here. And what do you study? She said business. I said let me see your ID then. This broad cold pulls out a valid student ID, but it didn't say business, it said law! I said I don't see any Gabriela on here! She caught herself and was like oops and pointed out her real name. I said why Gabriela then? She said she thinks it is a pretty name.

I asked her how much she wanted and she said 200. I said for how long. She said 1 hour. She had already told me where she lived - alone with no kids. I said and if you don't get a customer what do you plan on doing for the night? She said go back home. Wow. That is a long way to go this late empty handed. I said I tell you what. I will be taking an Uber that way at 5 am so you just stay with me until then and that way you will have a ride. She agreed. Had a great time. Woke up at 5:30 and caught the Uber at 6. He dropped me at Galeao then dropped her home. 46 reais for the Uber (and of course 200 for her).

I have been talking to her on whatsapp. She said when she met me was her first time back out in a long time. I kind of figured that when she said 200 while everyone else wanted 300 and up. And she was probably the best chick out there. She said she had a boyfriend that was helping her out but her family would give him a hard time so he finally gave up. She goes to church in her free time and is trying to go hoeing in Amsterdam where she can stay with friends. She seems pretty smart. I thought she would have had better plans than to go to Europe just to sell pussy. But oh well.[/QUOTE]Good move staying open despite the graveyard-like status of Mabs being confirmed. Crazy studying law and wanting to go Dam to probably end up in a window. It is holiday until Wednesday where I go home so centro is closed a couple of girls told me-that leaves civilians, semis, freelancers from trash at the motel for cheap or the Mc / solariums!

Hi gents,

How much are you guys paying at DV for a couple of hours. Some birds are asking for 900 reals. Is this a joke. A lot of them aren't in great shape, don't go to the gym and there breath stinks of smoke etc. Who is paying these prices. The country is supposed to be in a crisis which means prices should be rock bottom. That's what happens in other economies when everything is rock bottom.

Dolce Vitas is a good friendly club with great staff, I have never had any issues there at all.

Hi guys,

What's the deal on Mondays. Is it only Solarium in Zona Azul or is Monte Carlo open as well? I can't tell from their website. Thanks.

[QUOTE=JuveStadium;2173241]Does any of the famous porn stars work at termasin.

Mayara Rodrigues.

Ju pantera.

Sumaya.[/QUOTE]You are in a time warp my friend. While these women were in porn and available, it's been many years. Even if you found them, they would look very different. Sumaya now is probably be contracted out by Goodyear to fly over sporting events.

1st monger trip completed, learnt a lot but now want to start planning a 2nd trip for late 2018 early 2019, I am currently learning Spanish and committed to it.

Brazil, DR or Colombia?

[QUOTE=Gertsch700;2174264]......Brazil, DR or Colombia?[/QUOTE]No brainer. Brazil, hottest women, best service.

[QUOTE=Gertsch700;2174264]1st monger trip completed, learnt a lot but now want to start planning a 2nd trip for late 2018 early 2019, I am currently learning Spanish and committed to it.[/QUOTE]Start by writing trip reports. If you went to Florianopolis, that forum always needs more intel. Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2174435]Start by writing trip reports. If you went to Florianopolis, that forum always needs more intel. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]He did write a good trip report. It is in the Sosua thread.

[QUOTE=Gertsch700;2174264]... I am currently learning Spanish and committed to it.

Brazil, DR or Colombia?[/QUOTE]I'm voting for Colombia. I was in Barranquilla for two weeks at the end of March. I'm an old man, so I don't expect much, but I had a several very good sessions in my hotel with girls from mileroticos. Authentic beautiful, universitarias, slim, perfectly groomed, responsive for something like 120 K - 140 K COP, which is about $40 to fifty bucks. Also had a great time with a veneca pharmacist. Maybe from Photoprepagos. All the girls were beautiful and enthusiastic, and basically not whorish (which I like).

[QUOTE=Trokadero;2174131]Hi guys,

What's the deal on Mondays. Is it only Solarium in Zona Azul or is Monte Carlo open as well? I can't tell from their website. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Aside from certain holidays, both Solarium and Monte Carlo are open Monday to Saturday.

If you were asking in relation to the current holiday, I can say both Centaurus and Solarium were open last night. I was at Centaurus and Solarium had a special discount running for last night, and I got the email. Get on their mailing list for upcoming promos.

Today (Tuesday) damn near everything is closed. I had a fantastic time last night, so I could use the day off. But if you're right off the plane today, it's going to be rough.

[QUOTE=Chezz;2174474]Aside from certain holidays, both Solarium and Monte Carlo are open Monday to Saturday.

If you were asking in relation to the current holiday, I can say both Centaurus and Solarium were open last night. I was at Centaurus and Solarium had a special discount running for last night, and I got the email. Get on their mailing list for upcoming promos.

Today (Tuesday) damn near everything is closed. I had a fantastic time last night, so I could use the day off. But if you're right off the plane today, it's going to be rough.[/QUOTE]502 and others in Centro were open last night-plus all the trash boates -I was there but it was dead but still had a hottie in each place!

Today is bribe a semi pro with uber black day-get a civilian day-bribe a freelancer to go to motel day or go to VM and grab the skid row chicks who need money more than celebrating Dia Do Trabalhador day!

Tomorrow is my last day so will have civilian for breakfast and a semi pro for dinner before Galeao.

Its been topsy-turvy this time-energy is very unstable here in Rio and it translates to girls naturally. Everything is even more chop and change-almost DR like.

Might be givin Rio a rest for a while despite many good fucks. A few good termas and boates have been resurrected though where vibe is good-girls plentiful and energy good so there is hope but I wouldnt stay only in Rio again.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2174484]502 and others in Centro were open last night-plus all the trash boates -I was there but it was dead but still had a hottie in each place!

Today is bribe a semi pro with uber black day-get a civilian day-bribe a freelancer to go to motel day or go to VM and grab the skid row chicks who need money more than celebrating Dia Do Trabalhador day!

Tomorrow is my last day so will have civilian for breakfast and a semi pro for dinner before Galeao.

Its been topsy-turvy this time-energy is very unstable here in Rio and it translates to girls naturally. Everything is even more chop and change-almost DR like.

Might be givin Rio a rest for a while despite many good fucks. A few good termas and boates have been resurrected though where vibe is good-girls plentiful and energy good so there is hope but I wouldnt stay only in Rio again.[/QUOTE]Why topsy turvy? Can you be more specific. Thanks.

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[QUOTE=Mangera;2174505]Why topsy turvy? Can you be more specific. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Like I said it's been a lot of DR type of vibe-last minute change of plans-girls chasin what's in front of their nose even more-times are hard in Rio for everyone but as usual there is enough to go around. Just came from Malaga where I spent a most enjoyable hour with my little negra Sol who has the meanest slurpie in town-well one of them-the CIM was volcanic for 150. On her day off-that's true love of reais!! The best slurpie goes to an unnamed cashier in a terma who spits, sucks, blows and slaps her face with it plus keeps suckin when I come and then swallows-she's a freak and not even a semi! Just got lucky and fortunately she's comin to IBIS tomorrow to say goodbye to my leite. How we love a freebie apart from a little cab fare.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2174454]I'm voting for Colombia. I was in Barranquilla for two weeks at the end of March. I'm an old man, so I don't expect much, but I had a several very good sessions in my hotel with girls from mileroticos. Authentic beautiful, universitarias, slim, perfectly groomed, responsive for something like 120 K - 140 K COP, which is about $40 to fifty bucks. Also had a great time with a veneca pharmacist. Maybe from Photoprepagos. All the girls were beautiful and enthusiastic, and basically not whorish (which I like).[/QUOTE]On the whole Brazil but Colombian girls are hot and passionate. Body wise the DR Chicas have the crazy bubble and rack and faces but I don't dig the people a lot-vibe is oppressed in a different way to Brazil. Colombian girls are pretty serious if they like you and I dig that.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2174454]I'm voting for Colombia. I was in Barranquilla for two weeks at the end of March. I'm an old man, so I don't expect much, but I had a several very good sessions in my hotel with girls from mileroticos. Authentic beautiful, universitarias, slim, perfectly groomed, responsive for something like 120 K - 140 K COP, which is about $40 to fifty bucks. Also had a great time with a veneca pharmacist. Maybe from Photoprepagos. All the girls were beautiful and enthusiastic, and basically not whorish (which I like).[/QUOTE]Here we go again!

How we can discuss the most fabulous women in the world and the best place to monger without mentioning Liechtenstein is beyond me. If for no other reason than it is so much fun to say Liechtenstein.

Curious, does anyone know the current price of coconuts on Copacabana, Ipanema and Leblon beaches? Any posto will do, you do not have to give the price by each posto.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2174626]Here we go again!

How we can discuss the most fabulous women in the world and the best place to monger without mentioning Liechtenstein is beyond me. If for no other reason than it is so much fun to say Liechtenstein.

Curious, does anyone know the current price of coconuts on Copacabana, Ipanema and Leblon beaches? Any posto will do, you do not have to give the price by each posto.[/QUOTE]The best place to monger is Afghanistan though you can't fishmonger because there is no sea out there.

[QUOTE=Otrov1;2168170]Howdy guys. I stopped going to Rio right before the World Cup / Olympics madness, but am hopping back into to the mix and going back to Rio soon. Are the same Termas still up and running, eg. 4 x 4, Monte Carlo, T65, Solarium, etc. I heard that Centaurus was shut down but reckon it's back up and operating now, yes? Any new good venues pop up in the last few years?

Just out of curiosity, how much does an hour session at a place like Monte Carlo run now? When I was last in Brasil inflation was out of control. Just want to know what to expect.

BTW. It seems I had been away from the site so long that my old user name no longer works so I had to create a new profile. I see some of the old crew are still active in this forum like Sperto.[/QUOTE]I haven't checked but I can bet the 1 hour program at Centaurus is probably at 1000 Reals by now.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2174832]The best place to monger is Afghanistan though you can't fishmonger because there is no sea out there.[/QUOTE]6 reals Posto 5 today Copacabana.

5 reals posto 6 yesterday.

Top end of Ipanema near Leblon posto 9 7.50 reals yesterday.

I know because I walk that whole stretch very regularly.

[QUOTE=Jubby007;2174839]I haven't checked but I can bet the 1 hour program at Centaurus is probably at 1000 Reals by now.[/QUOTE]Pretty close, and worth every fucking penny.

Forty minutes is 640.

And worth every fucking penny.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Chezz;2175098]Pretty close, and worth every fucking penny.

Forty minutes is 640.

And worth every fucking penny.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Finally back in Rio!

Made a run last night to Centro.

Hit the clubs on the circuit near Uruguayana.

Saw a few prospects but nothing that drew me all the way in.

A guy handed me a flyer on the street of a place that just opened.

So I checked it out.

Saw a cute one right away, approached her, ordered a couple beers.

While chatting with her, an absolute stunner walked by, the kind that makes you say "damnnnnn".

So of course I quickly excused myself and said Hi to the stunner.

A bronzed skin beauty from Minas, all of 19 years old.

Ordered her an energtico, and we talked and flirted for a while.

I told her not to worry, that I was planning on an hour with her in the quarto.

She relaxed.

I usually carry a couple Victoria Secret mini creams with me, just in case a girl like this appears.

After about 20 minutes of chatting, I told her that I had a presente for her, and handed her one of the creams with a small stuffed animal I had as well.

You would have though she just won the Lottery, LOL.

She squealed and hugged me tight, kissed me and kissed me.

This was going to be good!

Well, of course we go to the room, I book an hour, and it was loving sweet sex with an absolute beauty.

Truly one of the nicest ever.

Afterwards, we returned to the bar, had another drink, chatted more and set up her visit to my place today.

To say I'm excited to see her again is an understatement, LOL.

Set me back almost 200R including the drinks, the room fun, and all the time flirting and touchy feely in the bar area.

Worth every fucking penny! LOL.

Enjoy!

I overstayed in Brazil few years ago, I would like to know what will happen if I overstay again. Is it possible to negotiate not to have the ugly stamp on my passport? I don't want to have trouble with Japanese immigration and get refused entry to Japan for work just because they noticed the ugly stamp on my passport saying that I overstayed in Brazil. I plan to stay in Brazil 8 months. Japanese people are very strict concerning immigration, to them when you overstayed in a country, that means you are also capable of overstaying in their own country.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2176226]Finally back in Rio!

Made a run last night to Centro.

Hit the clubs on the circuit near Uruguayana.

Saw a few prospects but nothing that drew me all the way in.

A guy handed me a flyer on the street of a place that just opened.

So I checked it out.

Saw a cute one right away, approached her, ordered a couple beers.

While chatting with her, an absolute stunner walked by, the kind that makes you say "damnnnnn".

So of course I quickly excused myself and said Hi to the stunner.

A bronzed skin beauty from Minas, all of 19 years old.

Ordered her an energtico, and we talked and flirted for a while..[/QUOTE]Great report. Can you share the name of the club / address / direction / neatness of the place etc, how many total girls were there, prices?

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2174454]I'm voting for Colombia. I was in Barranquilla for two weeks at the end of March. I'm an old man, so I don't expect much, but I had a several very good sessions in my hotel with girls from mileroticos. Authentic beautiful, universitarias, slim, perfectly groomed, responsive for something like 120 K - 140 K COP, which is about $40 to fifty bucks. Also had a great time with a veneca pharmacist. Maybe from Photoprepagos. All the girls were beautiful and enthusiastic, and basically not whorish (which I like).[/QUOTE]I am sorry, but Brazilian women are way hotter than Colombian women. What I like about Brazil is there is a little bit of everything unlike Colombia, you can find from Black Africans to White Caucasians. Personally I find Southern Brazilian, Argentinian and Uruguayan women to be the hottest in South America.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2176279]I overstayed in Brazil few years ago, I would like to know what will happen if I overstay again. Is it possible to negotiate not to have the ugly stamp on my passport? I don't want to have trouble with Japanese immigration and get refused entry to Japan for work just because they noticed the ugly stamp on my passport saying that I overstayed in Brazil. I plan to stay in Brazil 8 months. Japanese people are very strict concerning immigration, to them when you overstayed in a country, that means you are also capable of overstaying in their own country.[/QUOTE]I know you can go to Galeao 2nd floor and pay for extension of 3 months but in general they just work out a fee per day you overstay-it used to 8/9 reais a day. Anyone know if it has risen?

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2176352]I know you can go to Galeao 2nd floor and pay for extension of 3 months but in general they just work out a fee per day you overstay-it used to 8/9 reais a day. Anyone know if it has risen?[/QUOTE]I believe it's now 100 reais per day with a max fine of 10,000 reais.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2176348]I am sorry, but Brazilian women are way hotter than Colombian women. What I like about Brazil is there is a little bit of everything unlike Colombia, you can find from Black Africans to White Caucasians. Personally I find Southern Brazilian, Argentinian and Uruguayan women to be the hottest in South America.[/QUOTE]IMO it's hard to decide between Brasilians, Colombians, and Venezuelans. Those are probably the three best countries in the World for hot-looking women. I think Argentina is way overrated.

Colombia actually has a lot of diversity in looks, though maybe not quite as much as Brasil (no country does). You can find very white-looking Latinas and you can also find black, African-descent chicas. You can even find some with Asian descent (though not in numbers like in Sao Paulo).

[QUOTE=Combo;2176409]IMO it's hard to decide between Brasilians, Colombians, and Venezuelans. Those are probably the three best countries in the World for hot-looking women. I think Argentina is way overrated.

Colombia actually has a lot of diversity in looks, though maybe not quite as much as Brasil (no country does). You can find very white-looking Latinas and you can also find black, African-descent chicas. You can even find some with Asian descent (though not in numbers like in Sao Paulo).[/QUOTE]I have to agree re Argentinian women. I was in Buenos Aires a week ago and stayed for three days. I can honestly say I hardly saw a single lady that did it for me. Now here in Rio I regularly see very attractive ladies. I am only talking about walking in the street, not on the beach. I was expecting a lot more with all the hype around it.

[QUOTE=JuveStadium;2173241]Does any of the famous porn stars work at termasin.

Mayara Rodrigues.

Ju pantera.

Sumaya.[/QUOTE]I have not heard of any famous porn stars currently working in Termas- although I believe some did before they launched their artistic career.

Best to track down some on Twitter and send them a message.

Many years ago there was a boite on Avenida Brigadeiro in Sao Paulo that used to advertise "stars"- usually a girl that had appeared nude in a magazine.

Other tip is talk to the manager of a terma as they generally know the scene.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2162042]I don't find Romanian women attractive. The best GFE I got was in Russia and Brazil. Not interested to fuck Romanian women in Germany. Many Romanian women pretend to be Spanish or Italian because their reputation is besmirched.

Colombian women suck, I prefer Brazilians over them, let alone Colombian women living in the USA, they have gold pussy syndrome unlike Brazilians living out there. Colombian women are more likely to change when they settle in another country. Turkey really sucks when it comes to mongering, many brothels are scams and it is very expensive to fuck hooker pussy in Turkey, for a developing country. It is more miss than hit.[/QUOTE]



You must be joking re: Romanian women. You can find ones that look like they have come from north Finland to ones that look like north Africa. They run the gamut from very light skinned blonds to black hair with dark skin. It is unusual that you cannot find what you want.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2176352]I know you can go to Galeao 2nd floor and pay for extension of 3 months but in general they just work out a fee per day you overstay-it used to 8/9 reais a day. Anyone know if it has risen?[/QUOTE]They changed the law, they moved from 8 reais per day to 150 reais per day. The maximun fine is 10 000 reais and no more 800 reais like in the past.

You are not forced to pay it or your days will be deducted from your next trip, it is up to the officer, it depends on if they like you.

I would like to know if anyone knows if it is possible to buy a one year tourist visa? 6 months is not enough. I won't work for 9 months so I need to spend my time in Brazil till my next contract starts.

Brazil is really in crisis that's why they needed to increase their fine. The new law passed in May 2017 and went into affect in November 21 2017. The fine is 8 reais per day and the maximum amount to pay is 800 reais for any overstay before November 26 2017. Anybody overstaying after November 21 2018 will be fined 100 reais per day and the maximum amount will be 10 000 reais if you stay over 100 days.

The link: [URL]http://braziliangringo.com/tourist-visa-brazil/[/URL].

I advise anybody against overstaying unless you have no trouble paying 10 000 reais. I m fucked I will only stay in Brazil 6 months, I had planned to stay 9 months but since the new law passed, I prefer to refrain from doing that. It is better for me to monger in Europe for three months than overstay by three months in Brazil. I just have to avoid stick to my Russian women in Europe after enjoying my Brazilian women in Brazil.

I meant November 21 instead of November 26.

I meant avoid overstaying in Brazil.

Anybody that's overstaying or overstayed must double thing about that.

[QUOTE=Dave1111;2176437]I have to agree re Argentinian women. I was in Buenos Aires a week ago and stayed for three days. I can honestly say I hardly saw a single lady that did it for me. Now here in Rio I regularly see very attractive ladies. I am only talking about walking in the street, not on the beach. I was expecting a lot more with all the hype around it.[/QUOTE]We don't have the same taste. I am sure many agree with me Argentinean women are very hot, they are as hot as Southern Brazilian women I've been to Argentina and seen many good looking women. You don't know what you miss.

How can you say they are not good looking? To me Brazilian women are perfect, I love their beauty and personality. Colombian women are nothing compared to Brazilian women.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2176684]Brazil is really in crisis that's why they needed to increase their fine. The new law passed in May 2017 and went into affect in November 21 2017. The fine is 8 reais per day and the maximum amount to pay is 800 reais for any overstay before November 26 2017. Anybody overstaying after November 21 2018 will be fined 100 reais per day and the maximum amount will be 10 000 reais if you stay over 100 days.

The link: [URL]http://braziliangringo.com/tourist-visa-brazil/[/URL].

I advise anybody against overstaying unless you have no trouble paying 10 000 reais. I m fucked I will only stay in Brazil 6 months, I had planned to stay 9 months but since the new law passed, I prefer to refrain from doing that. It is better for me to monger in Europe for three months than overstay by three months in Brazil. I just have to avoid stick to my Russian women in Europe after enjoying my Brazilian women in Brazil.[/QUOTE]Go pay for 3 month extension before 3 months are up. 1 year visa is possible-just need an angle.

I was in Rio last month and discovered this new prive through researching the local boards prior to the trip: Absolutas do Centro on Rua do Ouvidor. If the place is still open today, it won't be for much longer because it's a complete snake pit! Only 3 ugly faveladas work there w / o any mgmt at all. When they open the door one leads you to a cabine where the other 2 are. They get really touchy-feely, pressuring you to do a program. Before I could even inquire about rates they told me the was a R10 cover if I didn't session, but it included 1 cerveza. I haven't encountered this in a few years & back then whoever greeted you would state this upfront! I wasn't feeling any of these favela rats so I gave one R20 & asked for my change. Then she asked me to buy them a gift. At this point I was visibly starting to get pissed, so they said ok, ok here's your change. I grabbed my change & the cheap beer & scrammed.

Later that trip I ran into some gringos while touring other casas in that area and they told me that they went to the Absolutas because a tout handed them a card on the street. To no surprise, these guys also didn't get a good vibe from the place. You've been warned.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2176701]We don't have the same taste. I am sure many agree with me Argentinean women are very hot, they are as hot as Southern Brazilian women I've been to Argentina and seen many good looking women. You don't know what you miss.

How can you say they are not good looking? To me Brazilian women are perfect, I love their beauty and personality. Colombian women are nothing compared to Brazilian women.[/QUOTE]It's definitely a matter of taste. I prefer Venezuelans, Brasilians and Colombians over Argentina because I prefer Latina women that look stereotypically Latina. Argentinians tend to be more European-looking (whiter) Latinas.

But obviously all three are big countries with a diversity of looks and one will be able to find what they want.

Also the scene in Argentina has deteriorated significantly. I'm happy that I got to experience it once years ago, but there's no way I'd return as things are now (at least from reports).

[QUOTE=Combo;2176845]It's definitely a matter of taste. I prefer Venezuelans, Brasilians and Colombians over Argentina because I prefer Latina women that look stereotypically Latina. Argentinians tend to be more European-looking (whiter) Latinas.

But obviously all three are big countries with a diversity of looks and one will be able to find what they want.

Also the scene in Argentina has deteriorated significantly. I'm happy that I got to experience it once years ago, but there's no way I'd return as things are now (at least from reports).[/QUOTE]I like Latina women that look stereotypically Latina. But I am also into white women. I prefer Brazil for many reasons. (personality, diversity and beauty). The scene has deteriorated in Argentina but I mean women are beautiful though mongering is not as good as before. I don't find Venezuela and Colombia to be as diverse as Brazil.

[QUOTE=Combo;2176845]It's definitely a matter of taste. I prefer Venezuelans, Brasilians and Colombians over Argentina because I prefer Latina women that look stereotypically Latina. Argentinians tend to be more European-looking (whiter) Latinas.

But obviously all three are big countries with a diversity of looks and one will be able to find what they want.

Also the scene in Argentina has deteriorated significantly. I'm happy that I got to experience it once years ago, but there's no way I'd return as things are now (at least from reports).[/QUOTE]I agree with you on all points.

Colombianas and Venezolanas are beautiful.

Brasileiras are sensual and hot as well.

Argentina to me is way over rated, especially now.

The best girls in Argentina that I've met, back when it was actually good, were the girls from Paraguay.

Anyone care to chime in on the going price for Agua de Coco in Argentina, Colombia, and Venezuela? :-)

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Mangera;2177287]Anyone care to chime in on the going price for Agua de Coco in Argentina, Colombia, and Venezuela? :-)

Thanks![/QUOTE]Agua de coco is more expensive in Argentina because the quality is better. Venezuela and Colombia really suck. Argentinean beauty is better that's why agua de coco is so expensive.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2176701]We don't have the same taste. I am sure many agree with me Argentinean women are very hot, they are as hot as Southern Brazilian women I've been to Argentina and seen many good looking women. You don't know what you miss.

How can you say they are not good looking? To me Brazilian women are perfect, I love their beauty and personality. Colombian women are nothing compared to Brazilian women.[/QUOTE]Hot is really subjective, huh! Hardly any of those soccer girls deserves a second look in my books.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2177198]...The best girls in Argentina that I've met, back when it was actually good, were the girls from Paraguay.[/QUOTE]I agree with you. When I mongered in BA, I had a session with Argentinian providers in the first few nights and was disappointed. I then discovered girls from Paraguay, DR, and Colombia, and had a feast.

[QUOTE=Kib123;2177919]Hot is really subjective, huh! Hardly any of those soccer girls deserves a second look in my books.[/QUOTE]Our tastes are different.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2177933]I agree with you. When I mongered in BA, I had a session with Argentinian providers in the first few nights and was disappointed. I then discovered girls from Paraguay, DR, and Colombia, and had a feast.[/QUOTE]Also have mongered in BA and had some memorable experiences with the Argentinian chicas actually, but still the Brazilian girls are better overall if you asked me. I've only fucked two chicas from Paraguay. One was a white chick (there is a small white population in Paraguay) and the other was very native looking (not my thing really). Both were OK, but not two of my better experiences. The Argies were better LOL.

I prefer Argentina over Colombia and Venezuela.

If you didn't enjoy fucking Argentinean women is because you folks can't handle Argentinean women.

I haven't seen many Euro. Looking women in Colombia unlike Argentina and Brazil.

Beautiful women are found all around the world, all depends on your taste.

I love Colombian chicks but my preference goes toward Brazilian and Argentinean chicks.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2176701]We don't have the same taste. I am sure many agree with me Argentinean women are very hot, they are as hot as Southern Brazilian women I've been to Argentina and seen many good looking women. You don't know what you miss.

How can you say they are not good looking? To me Brazilian women are perfect, I love their beauty and personality. Colombian women are nothing compared to Brazilian women.[/QUOTE]I was looking all the time. I wasn't under the influence of alcohol and it was broad daylight. I hardly saw any that did it for me. I didn't see a lot of muscle tone so I am not sure if they use the gym like the Brazilian girls. In fact I didn't see many people in gym kit around 5 until 7 pm, that's when you see loads in Rio going to and from the gym.

Maybe I was just plain unlucky or it was a strange three days in the city.

But like you say, it's different tastes, one mans eye candy is another's worst nightmare.

I am back in Rio and as soon as I was at the airport it was eye candy heaven for me.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2177933]I agree with you. When I mongered in BA, I had a session with Argentinian providers in the first few nights and was disappointed. I then discovered girls from Paraguay, DR, and Colombia, and had a feast.[/QUOTE]Hah! Now that I think about it, the hottest women I met in BA were not Argentinian. I specifically remember a Dominican and a Paraguayan being my favorites.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2177971]Also have mongered in BA and had some memorable experiences with the Argentinian chicas actually, but still the Brazilian girls are better overall if you asked me. I've only fucked two chicas from Paraguay. One was a white chick (there is a small white population in Paraguay) and the other was very native looking (not my thing really). Both were OK, but not two of my better experiences. The Argies were better LOL.[/QUOTE]Agree with you, Brazilian women beat every Latina in South America and in the world, I had good experience with Argentinians but I still prefer Brazilian women. I am not really into native looking women but I can fuck some if they are stunners.

Thanks for your input.

[QUOTE=Dave1111;2178107]I was looking all the time. I wasn't under the influence of alcohol and it was broad daylight. I hardly saw any that did it for me. I didn't see a lot of muscle tone so I am not sure if they use the gym like the Brazilian girls. In fact I didn't see many people in gym kit around 5 until 7 pm, that's when you see loads in Rio going to and from the gym.

Maybe I was just plain unlucky or it was a strange three days in the city.

But like you say, it's different tastes, one mans eye candy is another's worst nightmare.

I am back in Rio and as soon as I was at the airport it was eye candy heaven for me.[/QUOTE]Good for you, enjoy Rio.

Travel to any major city in the World and you will run into eye candy. Except BA. I was there a few years back for a week, and stayed in the Downtown area. I kept asking myself, where are the beautiful women? Only beauty I encountered was an Argen-China, (Chinese mix,) on the subway. Good luck trying to crack that Nut! I also found the Argentinian steaks lacking, (they don't season the meat, wtf?) Based on that, I've NO desire to return.

I was in the DR a week ago for the first time. I went to Puerto Plata near Sosua. As far as I can remember, the DR was referred to as Rio lite. I can testify that is NOT the case. The FL's I encountered were thicker, chubby even. But some were attractive. It was their attitude that I disliked. They had a streetwalker mentality: All about the Money. Some came on strong trying to entice you, but once in the room it was all business.

I had one that I SAW mentally disconnect just before the act. I encounter many who did not want nor enjoyed DATY. WTF? I couldn't wait for my 10 day trip to end.

If all you want is a fuck and a suck go to the DR. Safe to say the majority don't know the meaning of GFE.

[QUOTE=Dave1111;2174916]6 reals Posto 5 today Copacabana.

5 reals posto 6 yesterday.

Top end of Ipanema near Leblon posto 9 7.50 reals yesterday.

I know because I walk that whole stretch very regularly.[/QUOTE]
What sizes? Where they cold and did they have a lot of milk inside?
Have you tried to buy directly from the guys in the lorry that delivers the coconuts in the morning?

[QUOTE=JavaMan;2178312]Travel to any major city in the World and you will run into eye candy. Except BA. I was there a few years back for a week, and stayed in the Downtown area. I kept asking myself, where are the beautiful women? Only beauty I encountered was an Argen-China, (Chinese mix,) on the subway. Good luck trying to crack that Nut! I also found the Argentinian steaks lacking, (they don't season the meat, wtf?) Based on that, I've NO desire to return.[/QUOTE]If you mean you stayed in Microcentro, when saying Downtown, your statement is understandable, but if you didn't see beautiful women in Recoleta or Palermo, you'd better have your eyes checked.

P.S. Everything a good steak needs is rock salt and maybe some chimichurri.

I have been somewhat bemused by the descriptions I've been reading here of Argentinian women. They had me wondering whether it was the same Argentina in which I had my greatest girl watching experiences ever. It really tells you much about the veracity of the old adage: "Beauty lies in the eye of the beholder". I found Argentinian women to be the hottest in the Western Hemisphere. I would agree that Brazilian women give the best sexual performances but I found Argentinian babes to be a close second. Had it not been for the demise of the hobby there I would actually forego Colombia and Brazil for that destination. I also found Argentinian chicks to be the friendliest in all of South America; during my Christmas 2009 visit I got invitations to girl's homes for dinner. A great place for a non-pro relationship.

I have been somewhat bemused by the descriptions I've been reading here of Argentinian women. They had me wondering whether it was the same Argentina in which I had my greatest girl watching experiences ever. It really tells you much about the veracity of the old adage: "Beauty lies in the eye of the beholder". I found Argentinian women to be the hottest in the Western Hemisphere. I would agree that Brazilian women give the best sexual performances but I found Argentinian babes to be a close second. Had it not been for the demise of the hobby there I would actually forego Colombia and Brazil for that destination. I also found Argentinian chicks to be the friendliest in all of South America; during my Christmas 2009 visit I got invitations to girl's homes for dinner. A great place for a non-pro relationship.

I have been somewhat bemused by the descriptions I've been reading here of Argentinian women. They had me wondering whether it was the same Argentina in which I had my greatest girl watching experiences ever. It really tells you much about the veracity of the old adage: "Beauty lies in the eye of the beholder". I found Argentinian women to be the hottest in the Western Hemisphere. I would agree that Brazilian women give the best sexual performances but I found Argentinian babes to be a close second. Had it not been for the demise of the hobby there I would actually forego Colombia and Brazil for that destination. I also found Argentinian chicks to be the friendliest in all of South America; during my Christmas 2009 visit I got invitations to girl's homes for dinner. A great country for a non-pro relationship.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2178493]I have been somewhat bemused by the descriptions I've been reading here of Argentinian women. They had me wondering whether it was the same Argentina in which I had my greatest girl watching experiences ever. It really tells you much about the veracity of the old adage: "Beauty lies in the eye of the beholder". I found Argentinian women to be the hottest in the Western Hemisphere. I would agree that Brazilian women give the best sexual performances but I found Argentinian babes to be a close second. Had it not been for the demise of the hobby there I would actually forego Colombia and Brazil for that destination. I also found Argentinian chicks to be the friendliest in all of South America; during my Christmas 2009 visit I got invitations to girl's homes for dinner. A great country for a non-pro relationship.[/QUOTE]Being invited to the home of a GDP is the ultimate compliment. It says she trusts you not to behave like an ass and more importantly, to not say or do anything that would out her to her friends and family. It is even rarer than the number of people claiming native language fluency who actually are. Kudos to you.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2178494]Being invited to the home of a GDP is the ultimate compliment. It says she trusts you not to behave like an ass and more importantly, to not say or do anything that would out her to her friends and family. It is even rarer than the number of people claiming native language fluency who actually are. Kudos to you.[/QUOTE]They felt sorry for me having to be alone in my hotel room on Christmas and New Year's days. Even the housekeeper in my apart hotel invited me to her home for Christmas dinner. I politely turned them down though. Not very nice on my part in hindsight.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2178494]Being invited to the home of a GDP is the ultimate compliment. It says she trusts you not to behave like an ass and more importantly, to not say or do anything that would out her to her friends and family.[/QUOTE]Depending on how the two look together she could already be outed. If your 23 year old daughter all of a sudden brought home a 60 year old foreign man that you had never heard anything about it would not raise your eyebrow?

Or if you were 23 again and your best friend brought a 60 year old foreign woman on a double date you would not bat an eyelid?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2178493]I also found Argentinian chicks to be the friendliest in all of South America.[/QUOTE]OK, when it comes to the "friendliest", I'll have to go with the Colombian chicas. Always been nice and friendly and treated me well for the most part.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2178494]Being invited to the home of a GDP is the ultimate compliment. It says she trusts you not to behave like an ass and more importantly, to not say or do anything that would out her to her friends and family. It is even rarer than the number of people claiming native language fluency who actually are. Kudos to you.[/QUOTE]Totally agree!

Great compliment!

[QUOTE=JavaMan;2178312]Travel to any major city in the World and you will run into eye candy. Except BA. I was there a few years back for a week, and stayed in the Downtown area. I kept asking myself, where are the beautiful women? Only beauty I encountered was an Argen-China, (Chinese mix,) on the subway. Good luck trying to crack that Nut! I also found the Argentinian steaks lacking, (they don't season the meat, wtf?) Based on that, I've NO desire to return.[/QUOTE]My personal opinion is that Buenos Aires after much economic stagnation over the years has suffered somewhat from a "beauty drain". It coincides with a "brain drain". Beautiful women generally have access to more possibilities and opportunities. I think they have been leaving gradually. Some have gone to a condo in Miami and some are hooking in London or elsewhere. You get the picture. You see the most dramatic effect of the "beauty drain" in Venezuela.

The Argentine women are friendlier because I think the country has been humbled for so long. Not that many years ago, the women there were very aloof and underwhelmed with foreign males visiting the country. It was one of the toughest places to flirt and strike up a conversation whether it was a cafe, bar or shopping mall.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2178576]My personal opinion is that Buenos Aires after much economic stagnation over the years has suffered somewhat from a "beauty drain". It coincides with a "brain drain". Beautiful women generally have access to more possibilities and opportunities. I think they have been leaving gradually. Some have gone to a condo in Miami and some are hooking in London or elsewhere. You get the picture. You see the most dramatic effect of the "beauty drain" in Venezuela.

The Argentine women are friendlier because I think the country has been humbled for so long. Not that many years ago, the women there were very aloof and underwhelmed with foreign males visiting the country. It was one of the toughest places to flirt and strike up a conversation whether it was a cafe, bar or shopping mall.[/QUOTE]Why Brazilian hookers in Japan are uglier than their compatriots in Brazil? I've never seen Brazilian stunners in Japan. I've only seen few Brazilian stunners in Europe. The same shit happened in the USA, I thought most Mexican women are ugly before setting foot in Mexico. I've seen many Mexican stunners especially in Guadajara, I was surprised. Whiter Mexicans are less likely to immigrate to the USA.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2178524]Depending on how the two look together she could already be outed. If your 23 year old daughter all of a sudden brought home a 60 year old foreign man that you had never heard anything about it would not raise your eyebrow?

Or if you were 23 again and your best friend brought a 60 year old foreign woman on a double date you would not bat an eyelid?[/QUOTE]Hell yeah that's a wrap! Lool -that screams triiiiiick! Especially if you a gringo. No offence. Also as much as I don't mind dating a GDP outside her work place for freebies and hang times etc and have been invited to their houses many times I just don't want to do that! She can come hang with me-after all she's trying for the most part to escape that home life. Just my way.Once I went to the apartment of my gdp friend from Aracaju in Rua Princesssa Isabella...it was depressing as hell tbh..2 girls sharing one room with stuff everywhere.dimly lit.They lived like squatters despite making decent money at top termas but they had all the latest phones and hand bags-No man.I looked at her in a different light afterwards perhaps unfairly so...but Lets maintain the illusion a little. Please ...it was not good-never again.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2178626]after all she's trying for the most part to escape that home life. Just my way.Once I went to the apartment of my gdp friend from Aracaju in Rua Princesssa Isabella...it was depressing as hell tbh..2 girls sharing one room with stuff everywhere.dimly lit.They lived like squatters despite making decent money at top termas but they had all the latest phones and hand bags-No man.I looked at her in a different light afterwards perhaps unfairly so...but Lets maintain the illusion a little. Please ...it was not good-never again.[/QUOTE]LOL. That door swings both ways. What about the foreign chick that gets invited to a guy's country or even worse marries him and moves there just to find out what a slob he is, or that he lives with his parents or roommates and that he doesn't have shit to his name. He was just trying to escape his home life too! That is an oft played out scene on my favorite show 90-Day Fiance. Both sides trying to maintain the illusion. That is why I am not impressed by looks. Good looking, uneducated, crazy, irresponsible, unorganized, filthy chicks are 10 centavos per dozen.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2178626]I looked at her in a different light afterwards perhaps unfairly so...but Lets maintain the illusion a little. Please ...it was not good-never again.[/QUOTE]Best part of mongering is the illusion. Any attempt to peek beyond the illusion always ends badly, always.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2178642]LOL. That door swings both ways. What about the foreign chick that gets invited to a guy's country or even worse marries him and moves there just to find out what a slob he is, or that he lives with his parents or roommates and that he doesn't have shit to his name. He was just trying to escape his home life too! That is an oft played out scene on my favorite show 90-Day Fiance. Both sides trying to maintain the illusion. That is why I am not impressed by looks. Good looking, uneducated, crazy, irresponsible, unorganized, filthy chicks are 10 centavos per dozen.[/QUOTE]Very good point! Loool yo anecdote from real life: Mulatta hottie from Brasilia-studying law fuckin semi pro on the side super hot but slightly crazy goes to Norway on the strength of pictures of a young fit guy and WhatsApp convo-plane ticket later and a bald 60 year old picks her up in airport and drives out of town to a 1 bed! Loool right past the penthouse he took pics of for WhatsApp! Touché and she fucked him with closed eyes and complained pau was small and bounced!! Bottom line is to have the fun and keep it where we enjoy it / we ain't Savin the world.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2178874]Very good point! Loool yo anecdote from real life: Mulatta hottie from Brasilia-studying law fuckin semi pro on the side super hot but slightly crazy goes to Norway on the strength of pictures of a young fit guy and WhatsApp convo-plane ticket later and a bald 60 year old picks her up in airport and drives out of town to a 1 bed! Loool right past the penthouse he took pics of for WhatsApp! Touch and she fucked him with closed eyes and complained pau was small and bounced!! Bottom line is to have the fun and keep it where we enjoy it / we ain't Savin the world.[/QUOTE]The most beautiful women.

Are also the most stupid ones.

[QUOTE=JuveStadium;2178905]The most beautiful women.

Are also the most stupid ones.[/QUOTE]They're not so stupid as to hook on the cheap.

[QUOTE=JuveStadium;2178905]The most beautiful women.

Are also the most stupid ones.[/QUOTE]Where have you heard that? I thought all the girls are stupid.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2178586]Why Brazilian hookers in Japan are uglier than their compatriots in Brazil? I've never seen Brazilian stunners in Japan. I've only seen few Brazilian stunners in Europe. The same shit happened in the USA, I thought most Mexican women are ugly before setting foot in Mexico. I've seen many Mexican stunners especially in Guadajara, I was surprised. Whiter Mexicans are less likely to immigrate to the USA.[/QUOTE]Every situation has its own nuances. I think it's much easier for Brazilian women to adapt in Europe both culturally and linguistically than Japan. I have known many attractive Mexican-American women, but they are greatly outnumbered by poor, less attractive Mexican women who have migrated across the border. Believe me, attractive Latina immigrants are very clever, entrepreneurial and take advantage of the opportunities afforded them in the USA.

Without investigation, I am going to guess that many upper and middle class Mexicans have good situations and the Mexican economy has been very dynamic over the recent decades benefiting from economic liberalization and its proximity to to the USA. Thus, the Mexican women in these households are not necessarily motivated to leave. Local violence is the wild card, but wealthier Mexicans are very security conscious.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2179003]"The most beautiful women.
Are also the most stupid ones."
Is it not possible to be a monger and also a gentleman with manners?[/QUOTE]Well said Sperto.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2179080]Every situation has its own nuances. I think it's much easier for Brazilian women to adapt in Europe both culturally and linguistically than Japan. I have known many attractive Mexican-American women, but they are greatly outnumbered by poor, less attractive Mexican women who have migrated across the border. Believe me, attractive Latina immigrants are very clever, entrepreneurial and take advantage of the opportunities afforded them in the USA.

Without investigation, I am going to guess that many upper and middle class Mexicans have good situations and the Mexican economy has been very dynamic over the recent decades benefiting from economic liberalization and its proximity to to the USA. Thus, the Mexican women in these households are not necessarily motivated to leave. Local violence is the wild card, but wealthier Mexicans are very security conscious.[/QUOTE]Even in Europe, I found Brazilian women less attractive, I've travelled to Europe many times, Most Brazilian hookers are dark skinned.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2179085]Even in Europe, I found Brazilian women less attractive, I've travelled to Europe many times, Most Brazilian hookers are dark skinned.[/QUOTE]Except that one of the most stunning Brazilians I ever met was at Zeus in Switzerland (about 20 minutes outside Lucerne and pretty damn close to Liechtenstein).

[URL]http://www.zeus.ch/[/URL]

Not for the weak of wallet - 90 Swiss Francs to get in and if memory serves me right I paid 450 Francs for 90 minutes in the Deluxe room.

Light skin, black hair. Perfect in every way.

And, almost all the Brazilians I have met in other areas of Switzerland, Spain etc. Have been light skinned.

Guess some people just hang out in the Villa Mimosas of Europe.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2179085]Even in Europe, I found Brazilian women less attractive, I've travelled to Europe many times, Most Brazilian hookers are dark skinned.[/QUOTE]I have been mongering in Brazil for nearly a decade. However, the Brazilian girls who travel to UK or other EU countries to sell sex are nearly the bottom of the barrel quality. They are not even 5 out of 10. I have never found an attractive Brazilian hooker in London. A person who never set foot in Brazil will began start assuming that Brazilian girls are ugly after spotting these trash quality girls who leave Brazil and comes to Europe to sell sex. I can bet they do that because they are unable to compete in Brazil because noone would select them or hire them. In the adult search engines, there are nearly 100 are available everyday in London but all of them are worst than even Vila Mimousa quality. I bet that even centro spots like Bel Prazer won't even hire this sort of quality. In Brazil, I wouldn't go near them for even R50/ HR. I think the traffickers are sending the worst favela quality to UK. Brazilian citizens do not need a visa to enter UK and other European countries and stay up to six months. Therefore, they comes to Europe as a tourist and start working by advertising their profile on the web with the highly photoshopped pictures. IMO, the real Brazilian beauty is to be found within Brazil, especially Rio and Sao Paulo.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2179085]Even in Europe, I found Brazilian women less attractive, I've travelled to Europe many times, Most Brazilian hookers are dark skinned.[/QUOTE]I have seen many attractive dark skinned and many ugly white skinned garotas. Most Brazilian hookers in Sao Paulo are white skinned.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2179298]I have seen many attractive dark skinned and many ugly white skinned garotas. Most Brazilian hookers in Sao Paulo are white skinned.[/QUOTE]Dark skinned is not my thing but you are right there are attractive dark skinned women. In SP, Many women are not white, I've also seen many dark skinned girls. What I mean most Brazilians in Europe are not as beautiful as their compatriots in Brazil. Beautiful European looking women will never leave Brazil even in times of crisis because they will always find clients. Wealthy Brazilians prefer white skinned women over dark skinned women that's why you find more white skinned women in upscale places because they have to cater to the upper class Brazilians. Brazil is in crisis but I've seen many Brazilians paying women over 1000 reais. Crisis doesn't affect every Brazilian. The same happens in the USA, most high end escorts are white because they are more in demand. Such is life.

Even though I am not really into Black women, I find Black Brazilians more attractive than Africans because they have some mixed features.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2179192]Except that one of the most stunning Brazilians I ever met was at Zeus in Switzerland (about 20 minutes outside Lucerne and pretty damn close to Liechtenstein).

[URL]http://www.zeus.ch/[/URL]

Not for the weak of wallet - 90 Swiss Francs to get in and if memory serves me right I paid 450 Francs for 90 minutes in the Deluxe room.

Light skin, black hair. Perfect in every way.

And, almost all the Brazilians I have met in other areas of Switzerland, Spain etc. Have been light skinned.

Guess some people just hang out in the Villa Mimosas of Europe.[/QUOTE]The most beautiful Brazilian woman I met was in Porto Alegre, She was not a pro. German looking and slim with Natural blond hair and natural blue eyes, she is 5 feet 6 inches.

I never mentioned any name of any GDP I've got and specially not how many d' she got in the b' or m'.

And I never will cause I respect their privacy.

And so called "gentleman"is doing that (by GDP name and spot).

Do you think it's nice to do that?

It's not anybody business how many d' she got (that's her body}.

Some of you might be liberally throwing around some sweeping generalizations about appearances and geography. I'm guilty of it too. Just realize it depends on the scene and other factors.

Some of the hottest Brazilian providers I have been with in Brazil have worked in Europe.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2179383]Some of you might be liberally throwing around some sweeping generalizations about appearances and geography. I'm guilty of it too. Just realize it depends on the scene and other factors.

Some of the hottest Brazilian providers I have been with in Brazil have worked in Europe.[/QUOTE]All I know is the best BBBJ / CIM service I have ever had in my entire life (not exaggerating) was from a light-skinned Brazilian girl working at Club Globe in Zurich! Had a monger's legs pure tee involuntarily raising up into the air hahaha!

[QUOTE=Jubby007;2179222]I have been mongering in Brazil for nearly a decade. However, the Brazilian girls who travel to UK or other EU countries to sell sex are nearly the bottom of the barrel quality. They are not even 5 out of 10. I have never found an attractive Brazilian hooker in London. A person who never set foot in Brazil will began start assuming that Brazilian girls are ugly after spotting these trash quality girls who leave Brazil and comes to Europe to sell sex. I can bet they do that because they are unable to compete in Brazil because noone would select them or hire them. In the adult search engines, there are nearly 100 are available everyday in London but all of them are worst than even Vila Mimousa quality. I bet that even centro spots like Bel Prazer won't even hire this sort of quality. In Brazil, I wouldn't go near them for even R50/ HR. I think the traffickers are sending the worst favela quality to UK. Brazilian citizens do not need a visa to enter UK and other European countries and stay up to six months. Therefore, they comes to Europe as a tourist and start working by advertising their profile on the web with the highly photoshopped pictures. IMO, the real Brazilian beauty is to be found within Brazil, especially Rio and Sao Paulo.[/QUOTE]The UK is a boring country as a mongering destination.

The weather is not fine all year, no beach, Brazilian citizens can stay up to 6 months in the UK without any visa. The most beautiful women don't need to leave Brazil because there are enough clients for them. Why leave Brazil and live in another country. Many Brazilians live as well as American and European citizens and have no need to go to the western countries.

Brazilian men when they can afford and like a woman, they spend way more than gringos. This is the Latin culture.

[QUOTE=Nordico;2178346]If you mean you stayed in Microcentro, when saying Downtown, your statement is understandable, but if you didn't see beautiful women in Recoleta or Palermo, you'd better have your eyes checked. P.S. Everything a good steak needs is rock salt and maybe some chimichurri.[/QUOTE]I'm Glad you like it, but it's NOT for me. I believe I stayed in the Recoleta area. I visited Palermo, Puerto Madero, and the area where the Federal Government Buildings are located. Also rode the subway to Floresta or Villa del Parque. Dude, I only saw PLAIN chicks. Not a head turner in sight. (I also have corrected 20/20 vision.).

Regarding steaks: I went to a restaurant in the Recoleta area that has been in business close to 30 yrs. I figured they would know what they're doing. Those fuckers DID NOT season it with anything! But they did have that BS chimichurri! While I was chewing on that steak, I was shaking my head, it would have been a Great steak with some seasoning. BTW, I have an Uncle who's Argentinian. So I am well aware about Chimichurri. I was bitchin to him about my trip. LOL.

[QUOTE=JavaMan;2179621]I'm Glad you like it, but it's NOT for me. I believe I stayed in the Recoleta area. I visited Palermo, Puerto Madero, and the area where the Federal Government Buildings are located. Also rode the subway to Floresta or Villa del Parque. Dude, I only saw PLAIN chicks. Not a head turner in sight. (I also have corrected 20/20 vision.).

Regarding steaks: I went to a restaurant in the Recoleta area that has been in business close to 30 yrs. I figured they would know what they're doing. Those fuckers DID NOT season it with anything! But they did have that BS chimichurri! While I was chewing on that steak, I was shaking my head, it would have been a Great steak with some seasoning. BTW, I have an Uncle who's Argentinian. So I am well aware about Chimichurri. I was bitchin to him about my trip. LOL.[/QUOTE]To me DR is not referred to as Rio, Physically women don't look like Brazilians. Stores also tend to use dollars and Euros in DR while stores in Rio only use their local currency. Food is very disgusting in DR. There are many Clubmeds whereas there is none in Rio. Sex performance is way better than that of DR. If you don't like Argentina bad for you. I've been to DR but never mongered out there. I've only seen plain chicks or Hags unlike in BR.

The best steaks I've ever eaten was in Argentina, their meat is very good and tasty, Argentina has more to offer. The problem is not from your vision but from your head. You like what you like but that doesn't mean everybody likes the same way as you do.

Conclusion: DR is way different than Brazil.

Enjoy DR and Colombia.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2179402]All I know is the best BBBJ / CIM service I have ever had in my entire life (not exaggerating) was from a light-skinned Brazilian girl working at Club Globe in Zurich! Had a monger's legs pure tee involuntarily raising up into the air hahaha![/QUOTE]The best blowjob I've ever had in my entire life was from a Russian girl who was in a relationship with me. But concerning Brazilian women, my best blowjob was from a Paulista provider I met in Rio de Janeiro.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2179319]Dark skinned is not my thing but you are right there are attractive dark skinned women. In SP, Many women are not white, I've also seen many dark skinned girls. What I mean most Brazilians in Europe are not as beautiful as their compatriots in Brazil. Beautiful European looking women will never leave Brazil even in times of crisis because they will always find clients. Wealthy Brazilians prefer white skinned women over dark skinned women that's why you find more white skinned women in upscale places because they have to cater to the upper class Brazilians. Brazil is in crisis but I've seen many Brazilians paying women over 1000 reais. Crisis doesn't affect every Brazilian. The same happens in the USA, most high end escorts are white because they are more in demand. Such is life.

Even though I am not really into Black women, I find Black Brazilians more attractive than Africans because they have some mixed features.[/QUOTE]The best looking BW I have ever seen are in Brazil and it's not even up for debate. It's funny how Black women in America adopt Meghan Markle (who is biracial) but most look like Serena Williams or Issa Rae.

I'm not into BW either for a whole host of reasons and then Pro Blacks, White Knight Canadians and Europeans don't seem to like when I say that as the former thinks I'm a traitor and the latter believes it's un-pc.

All those men are welcome to rescue those THOTS if they must.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2179448]The UK is a boring country as a mongering destination.

The weather is not fine all year, no beach, Brazilian citizens can stay up to 6 months in the UK without any visa. The most beautiful women don't need to leave Brazil because there are enough clients for them. Why leave Brazil and live in another country. Many Brazilians live as well as American and European citizens and have no need to go to the western countries.

Brazilian men when they can afford and like a woman, they spend way more than gringos. This is the Latin culture.[/QUOTE]I agree that I would not bother with Brazilian girls in London. But if you like Eastern European. Romanian, Polish, Russian. It is great. Skip the club scene which is lame. But the incall in central London with Ro-girls is really great. I thought London was lame too till I discovered this.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2179645]The best blowjob I've ever had in my entire life was from a Russian girl who was in a relationship with me. But concerning Brazilian women, my best blowjob was from a Paulista provider I met in Rio de Janeiro.[/QUOTE]My best blowjobs came from non-pros in Brazil I met off cupid. Damn freaks! LOL A couple of pros also did great ones and one who loved to mouthfuck was maybe the top CIM but civilians are just as freaky as gdps in Brazil. Thank god.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2179825]I agree that I would not bother with Brazilian girls in London. But if you like Eastern European. Romanian, Polish, Russian. It is great. Skip the club scene which is lame. But the incall in central London with Ro-girls is really great. I thought London was lame too till I discovered this.[/QUOTE]Don't the pubs close early 11 pm or midnight? A bloke can't even chill later with his mates or chat up a bird.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2179911]My best blowjobs came from non-pros in Brazil I met off cupid. Damn freaks! LOL A couple of pros also did great ones and one who loved to mouthfuck was maybe the top CIM but civilians are just as freaky as gdps in Brazil. Thank god.[/QUOTE]Best blowjob: Termas 4 x4 in 2002. Pretty, lean redhead with a tight ass and abs. It was by far the best blowjob I've ever had. As you would expect, I had to ask her to stop before I blew my load. This is rarely a concern for me.

She put the choop in chupa. So many blowjobs are whole lot of a warm, wet mouth, but no sucking. A little bit of licking is okay. Suck it like your trying to pull a maraschino cherry through the straw. You won't hurt it baby.

Funny thing, when I was at Terrazzo Atlantico later discussing my blowjob (and not even her appearance) a random monger overheard and from my limited info knew her blowjob notoriety. He was bit bummed that I discovered her and she gave me her phone number. Sadly, she left for Europe the following year and left only a memory.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2179825]I agree that I would not bother with Brazilian girls in London. But if you like Eastern European. Romanian, Polish, Russian. It is great. Skip the club scene which is lame. But the incall in central London with Ro-girls is really great. I thought London was lame too till I discovered this.[/QUOTE]I can't stand the UK, that's the most boring country followed by some western European countries. Regular clubs in London are just good to drink and get drunk with other dicks. People just live to slave away.

I go the UK to fuck British women, not eastern European women but I never go to the UK because I have no interest in British women. I just stop over in the UK when I travel with British Airways.

Brazil is good because Brazilians know how to live their life and enjoy. We just have one life. I prefer Russians from Russia over Russians from other countries. Because they are more beautiful and have a better personality. I always avoid Russian women in other countries.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2179911]My best blowjobs came from non-pros in Brazil I met off cupid. Damn freaks! LOL A couple of pros also did great ones and one who loved to mouthfuck was maybe the top CIM but civilians are just as freaky as gdps in Brazil. Thank god.[/QUOTE]Regulars in Brazil are as freaky as GDPS, it depends on who you run into.

Plan is getting finalized. 6 days / nights.

Sheraton. Decided to stay away from Copa due to all the gossip of military problems / safety issues.

Land there on Friday. I have been to MC and Solarium. So very much know how they operate.

Haven't been to Cafe Paris and Perola Negra in Barra.

How does these 4 compare against each other. Which one should I go first.

Cafe Paris and Perola Negra. How many girls are there on an average.

We like the GDPs to be 8, 9, 10's. If possible.

What is the entrance, 1 hour, and room fee in these places.

Again, Solarium and MC, I have all the details.

Can anyone who is currently in Brazil, please give an up to date report on the Brazilian bills that have "free lula" stamped on them. Seems it has been causing issues in regards to some stores or people in general who are not accepting those marked bills. If this is an issue, then one must be extra cautious when exchanging currency.

[QUOTE=MRusa007;2180518]Sheraton. Decided to stay away from Copa due to all the gossip of military problems / safety issues.[/QUOTE]
To avoid safety issues in Copa you choose to to stay in Sheraton, with Vidigal as a close neighbor...
I doubt you'll run into any major problems but you might wake up at night from shootings.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2180695]To avoid safety issues in Copa you choose to to stay in Sheraton, with Vidigal as a close neighbor...
I doubt you'll run into any major problems but you might wake up at night from shootings.[/QUOTE]I was laughing about that myself. I remember a few years ago when the gangs stormed the Intercontinental Hotel right next to where he plans to stay. You can't run from it. It is Rio!

[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/aug/22/hostage-shootout-police-rio[/URL]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2180731]I was laughing about that myself. I remember a few years ago when the gangs stormed the Intercontinental Hotel right next to where he plans to stay. You can't run from it. It is Rio!

[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/aug/22/hostage-shootout-police-rio[/URL][/QUOTE]Maybe I'm naive, but I don't remember this type of violence in the nice coastal areas of Rio before the pacification policy starting around 2010/2011. The biggest concern before was mugging, pickpockets and petty beach thiefs. The gangs wouldn't disturb the tourist economy.

I have always avoided trouble by not walking around quiet streets at night. At night, it's pretty much door-to-cab-to-door. Perhaps that's too cautious, but it works for me.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2178642]LOL. That door swings both ways. What about the foreign chick that gets invited to a guy's country or even worse marries him and moves there just to find out what a slob he is, or that he lives with his parents or roommates and that he doesn't have shit to his name. He was just trying to escape his home life too! That is an oft played out scene on my favorite show 90-Day Fiance. Both sides trying to maintain the illusion. That is why I am not impressed by looks. Good looking, uneducated, crazy, irresponsible, unorganized, filthy chicks are 10 centavos per dozen.[/QUOTE]I feel sorry for the girls who come over to England on the back of a promise. There are a ton of blokes here who are potless, with no money, a pretty poxy job and no real mates. Not everyone but plenty of them here. I have known blokes who have lied through their back teeth to get a girl here. Posted pics of a house that they only rent, a car they lease etc etc. Also the average person in England isn't daft. Billy no mates goes on holiday and three months later turns up in the local wine bar with a stunning chick from Brazil. Everyone in the bar knows he's paid for her and they all talk about it!

If you do bring someone home be honest and preferably bring someone your own age. It will save you a lot of embarrassment in the future.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2180323]I can't stand the UK, that's the most boring country followed by some western European countries. Regular clubs in London are just good to drink and get drunk with other dicks. People just live to slave away.

I go the UK to fuck British women, not eastern European women but I never go to the UK because I have no interest in British women. I just stop over in the UK when I travel with British Airways.

Brazil is good because Brazilians know how to live their life and enjoy. We just have one life. I prefer Russians from Russia over Russians from other countries. Because they are more beautiful and have a better personality. I always avoid Russian women in other countries.[/QUOTE]Every country has its ups and downs, it's good side and bad. I have travelled and worked for long periods in other countries. I just spent 8 weeks in America around California. I can't say that everyone I met there was a laugh a minute. Having said that I love America and am very grateful for everything it has done for my country. Having been in Brazil every day for the last three months and three months last year, I know a hell of a lot of Brazilians who work every minute of the day. They don't lead a holiday filled life at all. I have also met loads of Brazilians who are completely fed up, poor and are totally devastated by the violence and corruption. They don't seem to be living a fun filled life either. My friends in Brazil range from doctors, lawyers, police to hairdressers and hookers. None of them are having what I would call amazing fun filled lives. They all have the same pressures that we all have. You might also want to remind yourself that it's the hard work that others put in around the world that creates what we have today. Things like advanced medicine, technology, space travel etc. All these things come from dedicated people around the world who work very very hard. Any beach resort where people sit in the sun all day, get high on drugs and drink, isn't usually the epicenter for leading the world in anything. Other than of course our favourite past time.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2180695]To avoid safety issues in Copa you choose to to stay in Sheraton, with Vidigal as a close neighbor...
I doubt you'll run into any major problems but you might wake up at night from shootings.[/QUOTE]Oh boy. Now I am worried.

What will be a safer location? Nicer hotel?

Courtyard? Bestwestern in Barra?

Please help, I have only 8 days to leave.

[QUOTE=MRusa007;2181000]Oh boy. Now I am worried.

What will be a safer location? Nicer hotel?

Courtyard? Bestwestern in Barra?

Please help, I have only 8 days to leave.[/QUOTE]The Sheraton is fine!

It's a nice hotel, great view, great facilities.

I've stayed there many times.

Never a problem.

I walk to Vidigal during the day for food, farmacia, etc.

Anywhere you go there's always some sort of risk.

The Sheraton is low risk.

[QUOTE=Dave1111;2180803]Every country has its ups and downs, it's good side and bad. I have travelled and worked for long periods in other countries. I just spent 8 weeks in America around California. I can't say that everyone I met there was a laugh a minute. Having said that I love America and am very grateful for everything it has done for my country. Having been in Brazil every day for the last three months and three months last year, I know a hell of a lot of Brazilians who work every minute of the day. They don't lead a holiday filled life at all. I have also met loads of Brazilians who are completely fed up, poor and are totally devastated by the violence and corruption. They don't seem to be living a fun filled life either. My friends in Brazil range from doctors, lawyers, police to hairdressers and hookers. None of them are having what I would call amazing fun filled lives. They all have the same pressures that we all have. You might also want to remind yourself that it's the hard work that others put in around the world that creates what we have today. Things like advanced medicine, technology, space travel etc. All these things come from dedicated people around the world who work very very hard. Any beach resort where people sit in the sun all day, get high on drugs and drink, isn't usually the epicenter for leading the world in anything. Other than of course our favourite past time.[/QUOTE]The most boring country I find is in Western Europe, the hardest country I've lived in so far is Japan but I am not bored out here at least because I also have good time. And the best country I've spent my best long vacation is Brazil and Russia. Canada is boring but not the most. Now my fucking employer wants to send me to Europe (UK, Sweden, Holland or Germany) next year, I am thinking of stepping down.

I am sure many of you would like to live in Brazil if you have the chance.

I really miss Brazil, I can't wait to be back in August.

Brazil makes us healthier and happier. That's why it is important to never waste one single day when we are in Brazil. Happiness is good for your health.

Some hookers in Brazil live as well as many doctors and lawyers. There are many kinds of hookers like many kinds of doctors and lawyers.

[QUOTE=DJFourMoney;2179798]The best looking BW I have ever seen are in Brazil and it's not even up for debate. It's funny how Black women in America adopt Meghan Markle (who is biracial) but most look like Serena Williams or Issa Rae.

I'm not into BW either for a whole host of reasons and then Pro Blacks, White Knight Canadians and Europeans don't seem to like when I say that as the former thinks I'm a traitor and the latter believes it's un-pc.

All those men are welcome to rescue those THOTS if they must.[/QUOTE]Enjoy having sex with the girls you want, and forget what people tell you what to love. You just have one life and just do what you like. Men and Women are free to choose what they want to do with their money and body and who they want to have sex with.

Many men like to play the false Samaritan.

You are not a traitor because you like some kinds of women.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2181202]The Sheraton is fine!

It's a nice hotel, great view, great facilities.

I've stayed there many times.

Never a problem.

I walk to Vidigal during the day for food, farmacia, etc.

Anywhere you go there's always some sort of risk.

The Sheraton is low risk.[/QUOTE]Thank you Balboa. I am not an expert, but 3 times Rio traveller. I am going with 2 newbies who are scared as hell. So I want to ensure my good friends have a good time and I don't put them into any trouble.

Any specific respones on my questions on paris cafe / perola negra etc.

Haven't been to Cafe Paris and Perola Negra in Barra.

How does these 4 compare against each other. Which one should I go first.

Cafe Paris and Perola Negra. How many girls are there on an average.

We like the GDPs to be 8, 9, 10's. If possible.

What is the entrance, 1 hour, and room fee in these places.

[QUOTE=MRusa007;2181451]Thank you Balboa. I am not an expert, but 3 times Rio traveller. I am going with 2 newbies who are scared as hell. So I want to ensure my good friends have a good time and I don't put them into any trouble.

Any specific respones on my questions on paris cafe / perola negra etc.

Haven't been to Cafe Paris and Perola Negra in Barra.

How does these 4 compare against each other. Which one should I go first.

Cafe Paris and Perola Negra. How many girls are there on an average.

We like the GDPs to be 8, 9, 10's. If possible.

What is the entrance, 1 hour, and room fee in these places.[/QUOTE]Like I said, the Sheraton is great, your buddies will love it.

They'll make you register guests, at no charge though.

That said, during the daytime you can usually walk right to the elevator with your girl, they won't notice.

At night they (security) keeps a more vigilant eye.

I've never been to the 2 places you were asking about in Barra.

Enjoy!

[QUOTE=MRusa007;2181451]I am going with 2 newbies who are scared as hell. So I want to ensure my good friends have a good time and I don't put them into any trouble.[/QUOTE]
No matter where you go in Rio, violence, shootings and robberies can occur. Since I went to Rio the first time 1991 I've never been robbed. No need to worry as long as you use common sense. Just enjoy yourself. Going around being scared is a big mistake. The bandits and thiefs can smell your fear just like dogs and you'll more likely be a victim.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2181621]No matter where you go in Rio, violence, shootings and robberies can occur. Since I went to Rio the first time 1991 I've never been robbed. No need to worry as long as you use common sense. Just enjoy yourself. Going around being scared is a big mistake. The bandits and thiefs can smell your fear just like dogs and you'll more likely be a victim.[/QUOTE]True!

You can get robbed in any big mongering city from Medellin to Santo Domingo and Fortaleza to Salvador Sao Paolo to Rio. Fear is a bad aftershave so don't apply it. I've only ever had 2 skirmishes in 26 visits to Rio-more fights than robberies but I've fought more growin up in US and Europe so. Act like you know where you going-fake it till you make it. And don't bring a towel to the beach. Its got "rob me I'm a gringo" printed on it. Do as the locals do. Rio has caused me no problems and as Komo and others know I go to the gutter lookin for diamonds, I'm in the favelas at Baile funkes and everywhere in between. Just be good peoples and respectful not scared and if you try and learn portugues it will only improve everything tenfold.

[QUOTE=MRusa007;2181451]Thank you Balboa. I am not an expert, but 3 times Rio traveller. I am going with 2 newbies who are scared as hell. So I want to ensure my good friends have a good time and I don't put them into any trouble.

Any specific respones on my questions on paris cafe / perola negra etc.

Haven't been to Cafe Paris and Perola Negra in Barra.

How does these 4 compare against each other. Which one should I go first.

Cafe Paris and Perola Negra. How many girls are there on an average.

We like the GDPs to be 8, 9, 10's. If possible.

What is the entrance, 1 hour, and room fee in these places.[/QUOTE]Like everybody has said the Rio Sheraton is a fine hotel and perfectly safe, only problem is you will have to take a taxi everywhere you go. One thing I've noticed about it's location is that sometimes at night the military police have traffic stops there because of it's proximity to the favelas, they will stop your taxi and look inside if there are 3 men you could be subject to a search or even if all 3 of you have girls going back to the hotel. This is not fun as they are toting machine guns and they are looking for drugs, I don't trust them. I have experienced this on several occasions and always been clean but I still don't trust them.

I would recommend you stay in Copacabana at the Pestana hotel and walk to Monte Carlo or even Centaurus plus take the metro to Centro for 4 x4 or uber it to Solarium. I would not waste my time on those places in Barra or Recreiero as there have been reports here in years past that quality is very low.

I think you would be safer in Copa as you would be closer to everything you want to do. Even at night just go to Mabs or Dolce Vita and bring girls back to your hotel no problem. I noticed that in the Pestana during the day you usually have to register the girl but at night the people behind the desk don't want to be bothered and keep their heads down just as long as you're discreet. The hotel has a nice pool on the roof top to hang during the day and at night has a bar and DJ and sometimes you will find girls there, just bring them to your room. Have Fun!

[QUOTE=MRusa007;2180518]Plan is getting finalized. 6 days / nights.

Sheraton. Decided to stay away from Copa due to all the gossip of military problems / safety issues.

Land there on Friday. I have been to MC and Solarium. So very much know how they operate.

Haven't been to Cafe Paris and Perola Negra in Barra.

How does these 4 compare against each other. Which one should I go first.

Cafe Paris and Perola Negra. How many girls are there on an average.

We like the GDPs to be 8, 9, 10's. If possible.

What is the entrance, 1 hour, and room fee in these places.

Again, Solarium and MC, I have all the details.[/QUOTE]I already answered you about the questions on Paris Cafe and Perola Negra and told you it is better to stay in Copacabana if your only purpose is to monger in Rio de Janeiro.

Vidigal is low risk, that favela is pacific and many gringos live there. I also told you favelas in zona sul are low risk because they are pacific.

Robberies happen more on the beaches and not in the favelas. Why steal poor people when there are many wealthy people down the street that are on the beach.

You won't have trouble bringing girls to your hotel, all depends on the receptionist you meet. Some are bastards or bitches and some are nice and cool and all depends on your way of acting.

They can book or call a taxi for you.

I also told you: The quality is good in those 2 places because wealthy and upper class Brazilians go there. Just avoid to go there Mondays because it is dead. Thursdays night are the best days.

The entry and programa price I already told you, please check your previous threads.

Enjoy Brazil.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2181691]Like everybody has said the Rio Sheraton is a fine hotel and perfectly safe, only problem is you will have to take a taxi everywhere you go. One thing I've noticed about it's location is that sometimes at night the military police have traffic stops there because of it's proximity to the favelas, they will stop your taxi and look inside if there are 3 men you could be subject to a search or even if all 3 of you have girls going back to the hotel. This is not fun as they are toting machine guns and they are looking for drugs, I don't trust them. I have experienced this on several occasions and always been clean but I still don't trust them.

I would recommend you stay in Copacabana at the Pestana hotel and walk to Monte Carlo or even Centaurus plus take the metro to Centro for 4 x4 or uber it to Solarium. I would not waste my time on those places in Barra or Recreiero as there have been reports here in years past that quality is very low.[/QUOTE]Trust Rio Bob. He was the tour guide for Cabral's captain, Gaspar de Lemos, when he first landed in Rio.

I used to visit with flight attendants staying at the Sheraton and was a victim of the police shakedown Rio Bob mentions. They stopped my taxi, asked me to get out and put their hands in my pockets. My biggest concern was them planting drugs. However, when they discovered little money on me, I was free to go. This happened at night and coming to the hotel. Not an experience I recommend. Good thing I was wearing dark pants.

Having spent some time at a friend's house in Recreio dos Bandeirantes, near Water Planet, I cannot recommend the area for mongering. It is a great place if you want to relax and enjoy a middle class community, but not much else. Barra has some great restaurants and I used to travel there from Copa by van, but again, not where you want to be.

Unlike Sperto, I have been the victim of some attempted muggings. What saved me was being alert and a full water bottle which I held by the neck and used like a club. Don't drink too much. Stay with your group and if you sense danger (usually a small group of teens) then move quickly to the other side of the street.

Another suggestion is when possible, hail a moving taxi rather than a stationary one. The moving one generally are driven by hard-working honest guys and the stationary ones by lazy guys looking to gouge gringos.

And, please don't be just a taker. Let's hear about you and your friends' experiences.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2181691]Like everybody has said the Rio Sheraton is a fine hotel and perfectly safe, only problem is you will have to take a taxi everywhere you go. One thing I've noticed about it's location is that sometimes at night the military police have traffic stops there because of it's proximity to the favelas, they will stop your taxi and look inside if there are 3 men you could be subject to a search or even if all 3 of you have girls going back to the hotel. This is not fun as they are toting machine guns and they are looking for drugs, I don't trust them. I have experienced this on several occasions and always been clean but I still don't trust them.

I would recommend you stay in Copacabana at the Pestana hotel and walk to Monte Carlo or even Centaurus plus take the metro to Centro for 4 x4 or uber it to Solarium. I would not waste my time on those places in Barra or Recreiero as there have been reports here in years past that quality is very low.

I think you would be safer in Copa as you would be closer to everything you want to do. Even at night just go to Mabs or Dolce Vita and bring girls back to your hotel no problem. I noticed that in the Pestana during the day you usually have to register the girl but at night the people behind the desk don't want to be bothered and keep their heads down just as long as you're discreet. The hotel has a nice pool on the roof top to hang during the day and at night has a bar and DJ and sometimes you will find girls there, just bring them to your room. Have Fun![/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ojH-Axt1lg&feature=youtu.be[/URL]

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2181736]Trust Rio Bob. He was the tour guide for Cabral's captain, Gaspar de Lemos, when he first landed in Rio.

I used to visit with flight attendants staying at the Sheraton and was a victim of the police shakedown Rio Bob mentions. They stopped my taxi, asked me to get out and put their hands in my pockets. My biggest concern was them planting drugs. However, when they discovered little money on me, I was free to go. This happened at night and coming to the hotel. Not an experience I recommend. Good thing I was wearing dark pants.

Having spent some time at a friend's house in Recreio dos Bandeirantes, near Water Planet, I cannot recommend the area for mongering. It is a great place if you want to relax and enjoy a middle class community, but not much else. Barra has some great restaurants and I used to travel there from Copa by van, but again, not where you want to be..[/QUOTE]I walked the entire stretch of Copacabana beach and Ipanema practically every day for exercise for the last 3 months. Only saw one street offence. Be careful in the day of people walking too close behind you on Atlantica Avenue. A street rat tried to steal the purse from a guy and two Brazilian women. A lot of screaming and shouting and fists flying and the thief legged it. That was broad daylight. Learn 20 good phrases or words in Portuguese and that helps. We really do look vulnerable and out of place so quickly study what the locals do and copy it all. Re taxis, the guys hanging outside Dolce Vita will always overcharge you. Download the uber app and use it. Its at least 50% cheaper than the yellow cabs and there's no hassle. I used it 50 times without any problems.

Favelas and Funke parties. If you go to these then I think you are risking your life. I was with a favela girl for a month and went to the beach with her brother etc. I got to know a lot of what happens there. It isn't pretty and the locals are totally controlled by the three main gangs who run these favelas. If you go into a Favela and it all goes wrong the Police won't be coming in to help. You are completely at the will of the gangs. These parties are drug fuelled, all the security (young lads) are all carrying weapons. Three weeks ago the Military Police raided a funke party in Rocinha Favella in Rio after a military Policeman was killed two weeks before. They shot the two doormen dead by sniper fire at the door, entered the party and killed 9 more. Reports say 6 were shot in the back of the head (execution style), another 12 wounded. The reports vary between news agencies. It was only on the news for 1 1/2 days! If you inadvertently get caught up in the middle of that then you are screwed big time. Just do not risk it, its their world and we aren't welcome, we don't know the warning signs and even if you were fluent in Portuguese the noise of the music and the drug trance state that many are in means no-one will be able to help you. We might think its way out and a bit risque to go to such a party but its not worth the risk. Most Brazilians wouldn't even consider going to such a party.

According to google reports, 3100 military police have been killed in the last 10 years in Brazil. Most in Rio and Sao Paulo. That's nearly one a day. Apparently three are injured each day, and about 10 a day have shots fired at them but the bullet misses. Nearly all this intense action is in or close to a favela. In the last three months I heard a lot of gunfire during the hours of darkness near the favela by General Osario subway near Ipanema. I also heard a ton of rifle fire near Rocinha. Two weeks ago in broad daylight the police challenged a suspect on a bus. The CCTV shows the suspect firing at police through the window. The police completely opened fire on the bus. Windows were exploding and I believe either one or two passengers were killed, the suspect and a load wounded. That was about 3 pm in the afternoon! Don't for one minute think this is a safe venue. Like others have said, keep a clear head and blend in. But no matter how careful you are it is possible to be caught up in the middle of something bad in Rio at the moment. Its sad because 99.9% of the people are genuine nice people and deserve better than this.

[QUOTE=Rio Bob;2181755][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ojH-Axt1lg&feature=youtu.be[/URL][/QUOTE]
Nice video of Pestana roof top bar.
I can recommend RioBobs other videos.
Specially this one:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IakQaj5CNwo&t=229s[/URL]

I'm curious, this video is it filmed from Rua Barão de Ipanema 22 (apto 1102, a quite small but high standard apto with a balcony)?
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkBTNpINWfg[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sperto;2181816]Nice video of Pestana roof top bar.
I can recommend RioBobs other videos.
Specially this one:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IakQaj5CNwo&t=229s[/URL]

I'm curious, this video is it filmed from Rua Baro de Ipanema 22 (apto 1102, a quite small but high standard apto with a balcony)?
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkBTNpINWfg[/URL][/QUOTE]You've been there?

[QUOTE=Rio Bob;2181818]You've been there?[/QUOTE]
If that's the apto, yes several times. One of the few aptos in that building with a balcony. Nice kitchen btw.
Rio is a small world.

Edit: Judging by your photo I doubt it's the apto that I first thought.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2181821]If that's the apto, yes several times. One of the few aptos in that building with a balcony. Nice kitchen btw.
Rio is a small world.

Edit: Judging by your photo I doubt it's the apto that I first thought.[/QUOTE]Yes it's a small world, we've all slept in the same beds one time or another and with the same GDP's!

[QUOTE=Rio Bob;2181823]Yes it's a small world, we've all slept in the same beds one time or another and with the same GDP's![/QUOTE]
Actually we havn't slept in the same bed. I never stayed in that apto, I just know the owner and visted the apto many times.
I have stayed in another apto in the same building many times.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2181823]Yes it's a small world, we've all slept in the same beds one time or another and with the same GDP's![/QUOTE]Is Rua Barão de Ipanema 22, apt 1102 the one that had the Brazilian bed with the wooden slates and no box spring? My back is still killing me.

As for sharing the same GDPs, for a shot of Johnnie Walker Blue, I will tell you which ones did NOT go ATM.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2181621]No matter where you go in Rio, violence, shootings and robberies can occur. Going around being scared is a big mistake. The bandits and thiefs can smell your fear just like dogs and you'll more likely be a victim.[/QUOTE]This one got what he had coming to him. Happened in Sao Paulo, but just as easily could have been anywhere in Brazil.

[URL]https://www.aol.com/article/news/2018/05/16/off-duty-cop-waiting-to-pick-up-her-kids-fatally-shoots-gunman-at-brazil-school/23435603/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sperto;2181821]If that's the apto, yes several times. One of the few aptos in that building with a balcony. Nice kitchen btw.
Rio is a small world.

Edit: Judging by your photo I doubt it's the apto that I first thought.[/QUOTE]Actually you're right I double checked the apto # and it's different, same building tough. You're good, show you a view and you can pretty much tell us within feet where it was taken from.

[QUOTE=Rio Bob;2181951]Actually you're right I double checked the apto # and it's different, same building tough. You're good, show you a view and you can pretty much tell us within feet where it was taken from.[/QUOTE]
I was just lucky. I guess you stayed one floor above (1202 ?). Nice building in a excellent location with mostly nice neighbours and porteiros. The downside is the síndica (a true witch), the small elevator and the hassle with following night guests down to open the main door with your key.

Hi guys,

Can anyone tell me when four by four opens today? I haven't been there in a while, but I'm downtown today for work so I could go there early. I will try to write an honest to god trip report so you guys will get something out of it.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2181962]I was just lucky. I guess you stayed one floor above (1202 ?). Nice building in a excellent location with mostly nice neighbours and porteiros. The downside is the sndica (a true witch), the small elevator and the hassle with following night guests down to open the main door with your key.[/QUOTE]A true witch? Sperto, you have to tell that story.

[QUOTE=Exec Talent;2181840]Is Rua Baro de Ipanema 22, apt 1102 the one that had the Brazilian bed with the wooden slates and no box spring? My back is still killing me.[/QUOTE]
I don't remember the bed, but the owner of that apartment only buys the most expensive furnitures. Propably Ortoboms most exclusive bed.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2181999]I don't remember the bed, but the owner of that apartment only buys the most expensive furnitures. Propably Ortoboms most exclusive bed.[/QUOTE]Yeah that's a nice Monger Pad, the one I rented in that building is not as new but because it has that outdoor terrace I like it a lot, that's where I break the ice with the girls, take them out on the terrace, have a nice drink of whisky then she goes down for the BJ (Covered or bare) and I stand there and take it all in, it's as close to heaven as I'm going to get. The fact that you have to open the door late at night and let them in or leave is a pain as there is no portiero at night. Because I like to have escorts delivered I usually wait for them in the lobby with a nice fresh glass of whisky and get to see them before I let them in. Sometimes I just wait outside in front of the building, letting them out is a pain late at night especially when you're tired and even once I kicked a girl out and I have no idea how she got out of the building but I never saw her again. So the next time you are in that building if you see a guy sitting in the lobby drinking whisky at midnight then that would be me.

I know few years back ET and I at different times of course used to stay in same apto on rua Magalhaes, the one owned by that British guy. It's kind of creepy when you think about it. And of course the girls back in the day when Help was open and people posted pics of girls from Help, how many times I've seen guys with girls I've been with. Today not many pics but you all go to the same privi's in centro, just passing the DNA around.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2181823]Yes it's a small world, we've all slept in the same beds one time or another and with the same GDP's![/QUOTE]Incredible I was in this building about 8 years ago I have booked apartment (appt 902) in this building because it was close to Help and when I arrived Help just closed! Is the doorman is always Carlos a so funny guy! Now i prefer booked apartment posto 2 close to Mabs!!!

[QUOTE=Frenchieboy;2182042]Incredible I was in this building about 8 years ago I have booked apartment (appt 902) in this building because it was close to Help and when I arrived Help just closed! Is the doorman is always Carlos a so funny guy! Now i prefer booked apartment posto 2 close to Mabs!!![/QUOTE]
Apto 902 in that building is also an apto of a friend of mine. :)
A 2 bedroom apto. Not as nice as apto 1102, but still a nice monger apto but way more basic (actually I helped out knocking down some walls, renovating, painting and putting new floors, electricity etc in that apto).
That means we have slept in the same bed.

Yes, Carlos is a funny guy but not to be trusted if you have a regular GF. He gossips and lick the ass of the síndica.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2182059]Apto 902 in that building is also an apto of a friend of mine. :)
A 2 bedroom apto. Not as nice as apto 1102, but still a nice monger apto but way more basic (actually I helped out knocking down some walls, renovating, painting and putting new floors, electricity etc in that apto:)
That means we have slept in the same bed.

Yes, Carlos is a funny guy but not to be trusted if you have a regular GF. He gossips and lick the ass of the sndica.[/QUOTE]Yes 2 bedrooms apartment but no terrace we have slept in the same bed but not at the same time hahahah And I have not only slept in this bed hahahah again Found some girls in 2010 in Meia Pataca.

I hadn't no regular GF at this time, so the only problem I had with Carlos: he told us to be quiet with girls in the lift because of the camera inside!

Gents,

I'm in Rio, where is the street action in Centro?

[QUOTE=Dave1111;2181785]I walked the entire stretch of Copacabana beach and Ipanema practically every day for exercise for the last 3 months. Only saw one street offence. Be careful in the day of people walking too close behind you on Atlantica Avenue. A street rat tried to steal the purse from a guy and two Brazilian women. A lot of screaming and shouting and fists flying and the thief legged it. That was broad daylight. Learn 20 good phrases or words in Portuguese and that helps. We really do look vulnerable and out of place so quickly study what the locals do and copy it all. Re taxis, the guys hanging outside Dolce Vita will always overcharge you. Download the uber app and use it. Its at least 50% cheaper than the yellow cabs and there's no hassle. I used it 50 times without any problems.

Favelas and Funke parties. If you go to these then I think you are risking your life. I was with a favela girl for a month and went to the beach with her brother etc..[/QUOTE]So you are basically saying Rio is a crazy dangerous place now? And most of the others don't say anything like that. Huhhh so confusing, I think I am better off cancelling my trip then.

[QUOTE=FNick31;2182153]Gents,

I'm in Rio, where is the street action in Centro?[/QUOTE]How long are you in Rio for? I am there June 7 - 21 and could use some advice as well.

[QUOTE=MRusa007;2182195]So you are basically saying Rio is a crazy dangerous place now? And most of the others don't say anything like that. Huhhh so confusing, I think I am better off cancelling my trip then.[/QUOTE]Man if you're afraid.

Don't go.

[QUOTE=Frenchieboy;2182079]Yes 2 bedrooms apartment but no terrace we have slept in the same bed but not at the same time hahahah And I have not only slept in this bed hahahah again Found some girls in 2010 in Meia Pataca.

I hadn't no regular GF at this time, so the only problem I had with Carlos: he told us to be quiet with girls in the lift because of the camera inside![/QUOTE]You can put any apt number.

You can put any GDP name.

This guy is gonna tell you he's a friend with a owner.

And he was her first client.

If I tell you that I was more times with his favorite GDP than he.

He would tell you that's not possible.

Cause he knows her for so long time.

By the way on that very day when he was with her.

I was her first client.

She's nothing speciall.

Very mechanical robotic.

Doesn't get involved with a client at all.

Not to mention the house conditions.

And her fake boobs and butt.

Their hair also.

[QUOTE=MRusa007;2182195]So you are basically saying Rio is a crazy dangerous place now? And most of the others don't say anything like that. Huhhh so confusing, I think I am better off cancelling my trip then.[/QUOTE]Don't cancel your trip. No need. 26 trips in 5 years and no problems of note and I go everywhere you shouldn't!! You can go to all the tourist stuff, all the beaches in daytime, use uber and hit all the termas, Lapa etc and restaurants and enjoy Rio. You don't have any reason to go into the communities that have conflict so should be ok. It's a big city so take normal precautions and take behavioural advice from my and others' post.

[QUOTE=FNick31;2182153]Gents,

I'm in Rio, where is the street action in Centro?[/QUOTE]Honestly steer clear of sw in Rio. There are so many privees, CLínicas, trash boates, tier 1,2 and 3 termas and VM is the closest area that kinda have sw mixed with girls who are attached to houses but in Centro it's behind Central station but that's crack head HQ. Avenida Atlântica have SW in Copa but I prefer if the girl has some attachment to somewhere where someone knows her etc even Mabs is a bit better than just off the street IMHO.

[QUOTE=FNick31;2182153]Gents,

I'm in Rio, where is the street action in Centro?[/QUOTE]
Streetwalkers. Copacabana, Prado Junior-Constante Ramos. Some nice ones, but check close up what's your bringing back to avoid unpleasant surprise.
Another advice for SW. Quinta da Boa vista. I've never tried them, but late afternoon I've seen som cute ones. Better go to privées.

[QUOTE=FNick31;2182153]Gents,

I'm in Rio, where is the street action in Centro?[/QUOTE]I totally discourage you from that scene in Centro, and as for Copa, beware that half of them have a hammer under their skirt. I have seen some stunning SW in Barra De Tijuca, but I have not pulled the trigger with so many other safer and better choices in Rio.

If you have enough dough to travel to brazil, no need to take high risk of getting mugged, drugged or higher chance of catching an STD. Again, just not worth it with so many other options.

[QUOTE=MRusa007;2182195]So you are basically saying Rio is a crazy dangerous place now? And most of the others don't say anything like that. Huhhh so confusing, I think I am better off cancelling my trip then.[/QUOTE]Has always been, is presently dangerous, and most likely will continue to be. However, you should go, and play it safe. For example, take taxi's, go to Termas, don't go to Centro at night, and make friends with Brazilians that can steer you in the right directions (Networking). After taking some baby steps, then you will slowly expand your horizons. Guinness beer buddy! Be Bold! Good Luck and enjoy (Don't be a Wuss)!

[QUOTE=Mangera;2182483]Has always been, is presently dangerous, and most likely will continue to be. However, you should go, and play it safe. For example, take taxi's, go to Termas, don't go to Centro at night, and make friends with Brazilians that can steer you in the right directions (Networking). After taking some baby steps, then you will slowly expand your horizons. Guinness beer buddy! Be Bold! Good Luck and enjoy (Don't be a Wuss)![/QUOTE]I agree, still go. I am back home now and would leave again tomorrow and go straight back. I never got drunk there and always had my wits about me. Door to door taxis are cheap and safe. I had a fantastic time but the crime figures speak for themselves. Bearing in mind how bad corruption is in the country, I suspect the crime figures could actually be a lot higher than are released. There are a lot of homeless people sleeping rough on the beach. That is one place I didn't go near during my stay at night. Its a big dark space with no help so don't go near it. I stayed on the other side of the road on Atlantic av where there were street lights etc. A tourist guy obviously had a problem one night on the beach as we suddenly saw him sprinting across the road bare footed, shirt ripped wide open and I swear his eyes were jutting out of his face with sheer fear. God knows what had just happened but he was running like an Olympic athlete!

[QUOTE=Enstds;2182336]How long are you in Rio for? I am there June 7 - 21 and could use some advice as well.[/QUOTE]I will be in Rio on those dates, if you want to meet up to check out some establishments.

[QUOTE=Mangera;2182483]Has always been, is presently dangerous, and most likely will continue to be. However, you should go, and play it safe. For example, take taxi's, go to Termas, don't go to Centro at night, and make friends with Brazilians that can steer you in the right directions (Networking). After taking some baby steps, then you will slowly expand your horizons. Guinness beer buddy! Be Bold! Good Luck and enjoy (Don't be a Wuss)![/QUOTE]No kidding. Rio has long had a well-deserved reputation for danger (like many destinations in Latin America). However, if one follows the advice given here and stays aware of his surroundings, he will likely be fine. Many on here have been to Rio and other "dangerous" cities dozens of times and never had problems.

I also agree with the others -- not a good idea to do streetwalkers in Rio. And really no need to, there are so many other better venues.

[QUOTE=Combo;2182530]I also agree with the others -- not a good idea to do streetwalkers in Rio. And really no need to, there are so many other better venues.[/QUOTE]What is this thing that people have in several threads against street walkers? I have even seen some old Help chicks out on Av Atlantica as SW. Not seeing what the big deal is and why people are so afraid of them.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2182448]Don't cancel your trip. No need. 26 trips in 5 years and no problems of note and I go everywhere you shouldn't!! You can go to all the tourist stuff, all the beaches in daytime, use uber and hit all the termas, Lapa etc and restaurants and enjoy Rio. You don't have any reason to go into the communities that have conflict so should be ok. It's a big city so take normal precautions and take behavioural advice from my and others' post.[/QUOTE]Totally agree.

Good advice if he will take it.

Finally made it to the famous city, station One: Copa. I'll include necessary details to help noobies like me. I speak zero Portuguese.

General impression: the highest per capita concentration of beauty I have seen anywhere I've been in the world. And by far the best ass collection, ever. Just the right amount of juiciness combined with excellent waist to hip ratio on close to 90% of the female population. Oh my!

What you will need to hobby successfully: Whatsapp, Google Translate, Google Maps.

Now the experience:

Unfortunately things didn't go according to plan, initially. For one, Sunday seems to be dead mongering-wise. Everything closed. Only a smattering of indies in prives were biting. Selected one in the hood, said she was near Cardeal Arcoverde Metro stop, agreed on time and all the fine print (100/ h). Walked all the way and then she went quiet as I landed in her vicinity. Wasted Sunday afternoon. Day 1 ended in disappointment.

Day 2, Monday, decided to try another prive garota who has a good reputation in Brazilian forums. Again ended in disappointment, "babysitter got sick" as I was only 100 m from her address near Siqueira Campos metro stop. (Interestingly most prives in Copa are near these 2 stations). This is not what I signed up for.

However, I had a plan be this time. Headed to the 'Clinica Street' (Av. Nossa Senhora) - it seems all clinicas in Copa are along this stretch. Had originally intended to go to Copa583 ([URL]https://www.copa583.com.br/[/URL]), but somehow ended up in Copaterapias ([URL]http://copaterapias.com.br/[/URL]) (same building). They had a prominent sign on the ground floor so I assumed it was one and the same. Big mistake. Nice reception area, but Copaterapias only does massage and L1 (aka HJ), this caught me off guard. I am on HJ-free diet (HJ is my gluten), but I was already there, and assumed with only L1, massage should be top notch. I had knots that could be untied, unhappy ending be damned. The lineup had only 3 ladies, but good looking. I picked Jessica, hot as they come (she's a lot hotter than the pics suggest). However, the room was seedier than I expected. They line the massage bed with what is essentially wrapping paper, noisy and tacky as hell. Only communal shower available, towel looks dirty. Mediocre massage, fully clothed, no touching except her legs (no kidding). The HJ, although expertly done, took forever. Not my thing at all. Total waste of time (full h), and RS 160.

Interestingly as I was ready to leave Jessica was quick to offer me her cell # without my asking. She was very friendly, I took this as a sign that she was ready to play at a higher level outside the establishment. More on that later.

So far three fails in a row!

After supper, rechecked my intel to figure out what I missed, and realized poor attention to detail and bad luck landed me in the only Clinica listed as HJ-only in Rio by TWM. I wasn't going to go to bed on night 2 in Rio with only a HJ under my belt, so headed back to 583, the real 583. Rate is RS 150 per h. Incredible lineup, maybe 20 ladies. I chose Suellen, a young, hot, friendly lady with small natural tits, nice ass! The rooms here are really classy, super clean with a private shower, a massage bed (with clean white sheets, not paper), and another bigger action bed. They give you a towel sealed in plastic to indite it had been cleaned or something. Apparently there is no pretend massage in these place. Straight to action, despite the fact that the ladies enter the room wearing professional-looking lab coats. The lady was a good kisser and gave good BBBJ, but was an average performer, a bit too submissive for my taste. Got my 2 pops though. She was also quick to offer me her number. Moonlighting must be common for these ladies.

This is by far the classiest clinica I've been to so far in Rio (5 and counting). Overall good experience, but I would pick a different lady next time.

Part II coming soon.

[QUOTE=Kib123;2182565]...I'll include necessary details to help noobies like me. I speak zero Portuguese.

General impression: the highest per capita concentration of beauty I have seen anywhere I've been in the world. And by far the best ass collection, ever. Just the right amount of juiciness combined with excellent waist to hip ratio on close to 90% of the female population. Oh my!

What you will need to hobby successfully: Whatsapp, Google Translate, Google Maps...[/QUOTE]Thanks for the nice detailed report. Well written!

Hello all,

Spent the last week in Rio and thought I would share my experiences with everyone just in case it is helpful to anyone.

I was in the city for a week but only got a chance to sample the delights if the city on Saturday night and Thursday night.

Saturday night:

I don't know Rio at all and don't speak any Portugese so I took the easy option and started my night with a couple of drinks in Mabs.

It wasn't very good. A few working girls hanging out there but quality wasn't very good and didn't enjoy the atmosphere. I left unimpressed after a couple of drinks. I walked by Mabs a couple of times later in the week and it appeared to be busier so maybe worth checking out but it wasn't good on the night I visited.

Decided to make my way to Monte Carlo. Easy to find and not a far walk from Mabs.

I have never visited a place like Monte Carlo before. I had read reports etc so knew what to expect. Place is exactly as described in other reports. Get changed in locker room, leave you stuff in a locker and head up to the room of ladies.

Room isn't that big and had maybe 15-20 ladies in it. Quality varied and there were definitely some very hot ladies available.

Had a chat with a couple of girls before deciding which girl to speak some time with. Headed up to the room, which was small and a little rough round the edges. Had a shower and then proceeded with the action. What followed was a hour of full on action. Full on experience with lots if kissing and sex in pretty much all positions conceivable. Had three rounds in the hour, went over a little bit a received a call to room advising us time was up. Got showered, dressed, got the girls number and headed to the front desk to settle up. I am aware Monte Carlo is one of the more expensive options. I think total price was around R700 which is around £160. From my point of view that was excellent value when compared to UK although I appreciate cheaper options are available in Rio.

Thursday Night:

I had hoped to meet the lady from Monte Carlo during the week but didn't get a chance due to a busy working week. Chance to have some more fun until Thursday night and decided to see what other delights Rio had to offer so decided to make my to Centaurus.

Not sure why. All the research I did suggested the place was overpriced and the girls pushy. Nevertheless I decided to go. Aside from my taxi driver trying to rip my off on the way got to the place OK. Same set up as Mont Carlo, looked room on ground floor, get changed into dressing gown and head up to main room. Room is bigger than Monte Carlo and more girls who were generally of a higher standard than Monte Carlo.

I was immediately pounced upon by 2 girls who lost interest after I asked them to give me some time to have a drink and check out the room. They were a little pushy but mostly good natured.

I spoke to a few girls and decided upon one to spend some time with. Unlike Monte Carlo where you pay for everything in exit in Centaurus you head back down stairs to pay for your time with the girl and then head up to the room. Rooms in Centaurus are much larger and better. Had a shower and the had an hour of fun. Again full on hour of actions and had 2 rounds with lots of kissing a variety of positions. It was awesome.

Headed back to the main room and despite it being late I decided to have some more fun with another girl. Same routine again and another 40 minutes of fun.

I spent around R1,600 In Centaurus which included time with girls, my drinks and a couple of drinks for the girls. Expensive again by Rio standard but by UK pricing it was reasonable. Spent 3 hours in the club, had 4 rounds of action, few drinks and the two girls I chose were stunning. There were plenty other hot girls that I would gladly return to visit.

Summary:

On the whole I thought both places were awesome. Centaurus was overall a better if not more expe dive option just because the room with the girls is bigger, there are more girls and the rooms are larger.

Hopefully I get a chance to return to Rio at some point and try some alternative options although would go back to both Monte Carlo and Centaurus.

Part I available here: #18637.

Day 3. Decided to contact the Clinica ladies who gave their numbers the previous day to see what their angle is. Jessica from Terapeutas is the one I had highest hopes on. Wanted to see her naked so bad. She was willing to come over, but insisted she strictly only offers massage + HJ, just like at the parlor. Then what the hell did she give me her number for? To waste my hotel guest relations capital on a HJ is ridiculous. End of story.

Contacted Suelen from 583 next. She was also very willing to come to me, for RS 200/ h. Remember at the parlor it is RS 150/ h, full GFE plus. My hotel was a 5 min walk from the parlor, so no transport surcharge. Just plain greed in my opinion. On top of her less than stellar performance, another dead end.

I (later) figured there's probably a ton of tourists in Copa area who fall for the, "I got a hot chick's phone #" routine. The behavior of ladies in Centro was very different (next).

I took the metro to Centro to mix and mingle, and maybe try the Clinicas there. The metro seems to be a very easy and convenient way to access many mongering scenes that matter in Rio. Connecting to the BRT bus systems further extends the zone of influence. I have used these for virtually all my travels within the greater Rio so far. They are the quickest and cheapest way to get around.

Went to Bel Pazer on Av. Rio Branco, 185, near Carioca metro stop ([URL]https://www.belprazer.com/[/URL]). This parlor is well reviewed and seems to be quite popular. I landed at 12:30 pm, and apparently a very bad timing. This seemed to be the time when Rio men dash in for a quick lunch-break nookie before grabbing a sandwich, or something. There was literally a train of homens waiting their turn to pick from the lineup. I was number 2, so didn't take long to get my turn, but the awkwardness of the situation was hard to ignore. Plan to arrive before lunch time, 11 am may be best. The parlor has private showers in each room and is clean, but not half as nice as 583 in Copa.

The lineup was solid, maybe 10 - 15 ladies to choose from. I was torn between 2 ladies, but mamasan highly recommended my second choice, Angel. A petite lady maybe in late 20's with small bolt-ONS that were not overdone. Excellent choice! Very passionate and solid GFE. Super friendly and great attitude. Standout attribute: Tightest coochie this hemisphere. Highly recommended. Damage RS 150/ h.

Took my time to tour Centro a very happy man. Note to self: next time I'm in Rio, I will stay in Centro or close to it. A lot more exciting diversity and options for everything (including mongering) than Copa.

Went back to Copa and decided to try the indy scene for the night. Connected with Tina Tavarez, listed number (21) 96569-4588 ([URL]https://garotacomlocal.com/acompanhante/tina-tavarez/[/URL]). She was very efficient and polite on Whatsapp, and arrived at my hotel on time. Great feminine body, with large full natural breasts. Excellent GFE! So far my best experience. She obviously enjoys the act and it shows. Plus she spoke a bit of English so it was quite easy to get along. Standout attribute: Best BBBJ. Damage 150/ h. Highly recommended.

Summary so far: 1 h seems to mean 1 h in Rio, not 1 pop like is some places. All the ladies I've had stay the hour and offer MSOG without asking. All so far have provided GFE service (minimum BBBJ & DFK, and DATY if you want) without asking. All so far have presented solid attitudes.

Adventures continue in Part III.

[QUOTE=VilaMimosa;2182375]You can put any apt number.

You can put any GDP name.

This guy is gonna tell you he's a friend with a owner.

And he was her first client.

If I tell you that I was more times with his favorite GDP than he.

He would tell you that's not possible.

Cause he knows her for so long time.

By the way on that very day when he was with her..[/QUOTE]Nice report man.

I know that GDP also.

She likes to cheat on time.

[QUOTE=VilaMimosa;1322105]Man why didn't you pay that girl for a whole night it was so cheap. She got payed already that price, so she wouldn't ask if she wasn't. Everything in Rio is very cheap nowadays:hotels, apartamento, garotas. Just keep paying that kind of prices in 2 years everything is going to be 3 times higher. 1000 (Reais) for one hour and 1000 (Reais) at Termas for 30 min.[/QUOTE]6 years are gone, it's still below 1000 reais for one hour.

Thanks for the info.

[QUOTE=Kib123;2182792]Part I available here: #18637.

Day 3. Decided to contact the Clinica ladies who gave their numbers the previous day to see what their angle is. Jessica from Terapeutas is the one I had highest hopes on. Wanted to see her naked so bad. She was willing to come over, but insisted she strictly only offers massage + HJ, just like at the parlor. Then what the hell did she give me her number for? To waste my hotel guest relations capital on a HJ is ridiculous. End of story.

Contacted Suelen from 583 next. She was also very willing to come to me, for RS 200/ h. Remember at the parlor it is RS 150/ h, full GFE plus. My hotel was a 5 min walk from the parlor, so no transport surcharge. Just plain greed in my opinion. On top of her less than stellar performance, another dead end.

I (later) figured there's probably a ton of tourists in Copa area who fall for the, "I got a hot chick's phone #" routine. The behavior of ladies in Centro was very different (next)..[/QUOTE]Thank you. As a newbie. Your reports are to the point of one looks in these forums. Thank you. I will definitely post my report. Waiting for Friday.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2182543]What is this thing that people have in several threads against street walkers? I have even seen some old Help chicks out on Av Atlantica as SW. Not seeing what the big deal is and why people are so afraid of them.[/QUOTE]Besides increasing the likelihood of picking up a tranny?

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;2182543]What is this thing that people have in several threads against street walkers? I have even seen some old Help chicks out on Av Atlantica as SW. Not seeing what the big deal is and why people are so afraid of them.[/QUOTE]
Several of the streetwalkers on Av Atlântica in Copa are the same ones you'll find at Mabs. Only difference is the price is less than half if you pick them up along the pista. I saw more goodlooking GPs working the avenida than I saw at Mabs. There are very sweet SWs that only works a few times a month, who are not hardcore like the regular SWs. Just make sure she takes a good shower before session as she might have served a customer in his car. Needless to say, if necessary check ID, Adam's apple and hand size.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2183314]Besides increasing the likelihood of picking up a tranny?[/QUOTE]So, I am minding my own business walking on the hotel side of Avenida Atlântica when I see three street walkers next to a taxi. Two obviously were trannies, but one particularly striking one was hard to tell. I get closer and still cannot reach a determination. I say Oi in hopes that the voice will give me a clue. Still not sure, so I ask the taxi driver. What do you think? Is that a guy or girl? He just shrugs. I say, looks pretty good to me? Again, he is noncommittal. So, do you mind if we do it in the back of your taxi? He opens the back door and motions me in. Then I knew. Tranny.

[QUOTE=FNick31;2182153]Gents,

I'm in Rio, where is the street action in Centro?[/QUOTE]My man stick with a streetwalkers.

Just don't pay them upfront.

If you are funny and they like your humor you can get some free pussy.

At the prives you have to pay upfront.

And when they see a gringo they always cheat with a time and that sucks.

Or try to push the price up.

If I am headed to SP on business is it worth a two day detour to Rio to sample the Thermas? What about other Rio action? In SP I plan to be at Scandallo most nights.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2183314]Besides increasing the likelihood of picking up a tranny?[/QUOTE]MFs don't mind asking for BBBJ, anal, or whatever else. Why would they mind asking if the person is a female?

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2183815]If I am headed to SP on business is it worth a two day detour to Rio to sample the Thermas? What about other Rio action? In SP I plan to be at Scandallo most nights.[/QUOTE]Just realizing with horror that the termas are closed on Sunday. Any place to get action on a Sunday?

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2183843]Just realizing with horror that the termas are closed on Sunday. Any place to get action on a Sunday?[/QUOTE]Head straight to Vila Mimosa -after Scandalos that will be a nice change of scenery! Sunday is rest day unless you set up independents or hit the gringo traps like Mabs. All privees termas boates shut.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2183843]Just realizing with horror that the termas are closed on Sunday. Any place to get action on a Sunday?[/QUOTE]You can try out Mosaic, it is open on Sundays, there are not many options on Sunday, only gringos traps like Barbarela, Casablanca and some other clubs around that are open on Sundays. Mabs is a gringo trap that sucks, girls are hags.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2183843]Just realizing with horror that the termas are closed on Sunday. Any place to get action on a Sunday?[/QUOTE]Tangara is open on Sunday. From 11-8, if I recall correctly.

Hit Casarao on Friday or Saturday night (true, other days are better, but weekends can be okay) and get phone numbers.

[QUOTE=LarryDavid;2184162]Tangara is open on Sunday. From 11-8, if I recall correctly.

Hit Casarao on Friday or Saturday night (true, other days are better, but weekends can be okay) and get phone numbers.[/QUOTE]
It will be a long taxi ride from Rio to São Paulo. :)

[QUOTE=LarryDavid;2184162]Tangara is open on Sunday. From 11-8, if I recall correctly.

Hit Casarao on Friday or Saturday night (true, other days are better, but weekends can be okay) and get phone numbers.[/QUOTE]He can also ask the girls to come over to Rio de Janeiro, he won't waste his time that way.

I am a young man from Moscow I and three of my friends are going to travel to Brazil and outside Russia for the first time, we don't speak Portuguese, we plan to stay 10 weeks around June. Is it common to find skinny and slim fair skinned chicks in Termas? Are Brazilian women as submissive and feminine as Russian women? What is Terma? Is it a place to take a bath with a girl and fuck in the bathtub. Our objective is to hit Termas in Rio and Bomboa and Scandallo in Sao Paulo. We also want to monger in Argentina on the side.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2184451]I am a young man from Moscow I and three of my friends are going to travel to Brazil and outside Russia for the first time, we don't speak Portuguese, we plan to stay 10 weeks around June. Is it common to find skinny and slim fair skinned chicks in Termas? Are Brazilian women as submissive and feminine as Russian women? What is Terma? Is it a place to take a bath with a girl and fuck in the bathtub. Our objective is to hit Termas in Rio and Bomboa and Scandallo in Sao Paulo. We also want to monger in Argentina on the side.[/QUOTE]Newbie message, easy to ask questions but not easy to share useful information. I've seen many of these messages, people asking questions but never share information when they monger.

I haven't seen any info on termas in Centro for one year and in Zona sul since Safado updated us. Example Price in Termas Cancun T65 or 4 by 4 (these prices changed) even entry price changed or name of the performer, how good blowjob is. If anal and CIM is included. The rating for the sex performance. Only few shared some info.

Everybody is cheap to go to termas? Or have no time to share info on termas?

I won't be motivated to share info too when I monger if no one updates us when we are not in Brazil.

Thanks Safado for sharing.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2184451]I am a young man from Moscow I and three of my friends are going to travel to Brazil and outside Russia for the first time, we don't speak Portuguese, we plan to stay 10 weeks around June. Is it common to find skinny and slim fair skinned chicks in Termas? Are Brazilian women as submissive and feminine as Russian women? What is Terma? Is it a place to take a bath with a girl and fuck in the bathtub. Our objective is to hit Termas in Rio and Bomboa and Scandallo in Sao Paulo. We also want to monger in Argentina on the side.[/QUOTE]Looks like someone posted using the wrong logon!

For those who are honest and mostly those who don't get too worked up about internet forums, there are guys who will post under one ID then comment on the post from another one.

Sad, I know, but true.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2184494]Looks like someone posted using the wrong logon!

For those who are honest and mostly those who don't get too worked up about internet forums, there are guys who will post under one ID then comment on the post from another one.

Sad, I know, but true.[/QUOTE]Whoops, LOL. 😅

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2184494]Looks like someone posted using the wrong logon!

For those who are honest and mostly those who don't get too worked up about internet forums, there are guys who will post under one ID then comment on the post from another one.

Sad, I know, but true.[/QUOTE]Busted 101. LOL.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2184494]Looks like someone posted using the wrong logon!

For those who are honest and mostly those who don't get too worked up about internet forums, there are guys who will post under one ID then comment on the post from another one.

Sad, I know, but true.[/QUOTE]There is a suitable portuguese expression for a situation like this; "Pagar o mico".

[QUOTE=Sperto;2184267]It will be a long taxi ride from Rio to So Paulo.[/QUOTE]Ha! Yeah. I meant to say he should stay in SP.

God knows Rio is for young men from Moscow who can remember their login handles.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2184451]I am a young man from Moscow I and three of my friends are going to travel to Brazil and outside Russia for the first time, we don't speak Portuguese, we plan to stay 10 weeks around June. Is it common to find skinny and slim fair skinned chicks in Termas? Are Brazilian women as submissive and feminine as Russian women? What is Terma? Is it a place to take a bath with a girl and fuck in the bathtub. Our objective is to hit Termas in Rio and Bomboa and Scandallo in Sao Paulo. We also want to monger in Argentina on the side.[/QUOTE]I apologize for the rudeness of the ISG community. Let me be the first to wish you well on your move to Moscow.

I believe a certain someone now owes us some Moscow reports. How are things at Night Flight these days?

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2183843]Just realizing with horror that the termas are closed on Sunday. Any place to get action on a Sunday?[/QUOTE]Perhaps a Friday and Saturday night trip leaving Sunday morning or mid-day would work for you. Those are slower nights at Scandallo in SP.

As I mentioned on PM, some of us just enjoy the beaches, the civilian nightlife and the vibe of Rio. You could unload your pistol at Termas 4 x4 on Friday and afterward check out the famous Lapa street party not too far away.

If you've never been there, it would be very easy to fill two / three days. The city is beautiful and on the non-beach days you can head up to the Christ statute and / or Sugarloaf Mountain. Again if I'm not on the beach, I enjoy walking around Rio far more than Sao Paulo. I often walk the beach promenade. Sao Paulo has great food, but I can find good food in Rio (churrascaria for sure).

If you are 100% focused on mongering, I'm not sure its worth a side trip but only you can determine what you want to do with your non-mongering time. Just so you know, foreigners really don't go to Sao Paulo for tourism.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2183843]Just realizing with horror that the termas are closed on Sunday. Any place to get action on a Sunday?[/QUOTE]Steve, I forgot to mention if you work at screening the termas or clinica girls you could session with a girl who is free on Sunday. If the session is enjoyable, work out a deal.

Learn the geography, a girl from Niteroi is less likely to take a long ride to the Copa / Ipanema area on Sunday even if in the termas she says she will. Just to prepare you, a girl still might flake on you Sunday. Get some back-up numbers.

The funny thing is that some tried to shut him up here in recent months to no avail. But in the end he did himself in.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2184732]I apologize for the rudeness of the ISG community. Let me be the first to wish you well on your move to Moscow.

I believe a certain someone now owes us some Moscow reports. How are things at Night Flight these days?[/QUOTE]There are people born male who identify as female. There even was that woman in the US who though White, identified as Black.

Could be that Komo just identifies as Russian. When he is not identifying as coming from Canada or Japan or. LOL.

We haven't had one this good since Rio Bob said Brazilian girls trusted him because he was a Cabeleireiro.

For the Portuguese challenged, he meant to say Caveleiro not that he was a hairdresser.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2184835]There are people born male who identify as female. There even was that woman in the US who though White, identified as Black.

Could be that Komo just identifies as Russian. When he is not identifying as coming from Canada or Japan or. LOL.

We haven't had one this good since Rio Bob said Brazilian girls trusted him because he was a Cabeleireiro.

For the Portuguese challenged, he meant to say Caveleiro not that he was a hairdresser.[/QUOTE]Sad that we won't be hearing from him any longer, at least not under that sobriquet. Its actually not very difficult to detect charlatans. One poster called him out some time ago but ISG protected him perhaps because he was entertaining. I'm saying 'him' but who knows?

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2184835]

We haven't had one this good since Rio Bob said Brazilian girls trusted him because he was a Cabeleireiro.

For the Portuguese challenged, he meant to say Caveleiro not that he was a hairdresser.[/QUOTE]I kinda remember this LOL, this had to be over 10 years ago, you need to get a life!

Part II available here: #18639.

Hint; if you Google the listed numbers, you should see links to current ads and any available local reviews of the lady, clinica, or whichever entity.

Despite previous disappointments I was determined to get the prive experience. Contacted Layla (listed number; Layla (21) 96570-6790). The pics on her PhotoAcompanhantes page are dated, she has quite a few extra pounds on her, but still shapely. She was very efficient in communication, apartment is located on Av Nossa Senhora in Copa, not far from 583. General area is nice, but the room was seedy. Performance was good, but too "professional" for my taste. She does know how to take care of the balls though. Gave me a half decent massage afterwards. Not repeat-worthy. Damage RS 150.

Day 5. I decided to move to Barra the Tijuca. You get far better bang for your bucks hotel wise. I used Uber the first time (took about 35 min with very light traffic), the metro is a lot quicker (about 15 min from Jardim Oceanico to Cantagalo in Copa).

I contacted a local lady who schedules for a few UTR part time providers in Barra based on intel from Brazillian review site, gparena. Listed number: (21) 98086-9690. The scheduler recommended Hellen (you can see her pics here: [URL]https://lgprj.tumblr.com/[/URL]). Excellent choice. She showed up at my place a bit late due to traffic, but scheduler kept me posted. An ass to die for and a sexual energy that is out of this world. Never thought I would say this, but she wore me out. Excellent GFE. Damage schedule: RS 160/220/260 for 1/1. 5/2 h. I was so pleased that she became my Barra nighttime 'girlfriend' till I left. Performance was very consistent. Only thing that went up exponentially is her ability to talk. Never mind that I don't speak Portuguese.

Other Clinicas I visited in Centro are Dudas (21) 99820-7490 and Onix (21) 99685-1888. Both are in the same building on Av. Rio Branco 156, right by Carioca metro stop. Everything seems to be in this area.

At Dudas I sessioned with Elen. She stood out as the most sensual of the entire trip. Eyes that draw you in and a sexual appetite that is hard to fake. She can get loud! Damage was RS 160/ h. Highly recommended.

At Onix, the selection was a bit thin, maybe 5 ladies. I chose Jessica, a short redhead. Good session, but I did not understand the pricing strategy of the place. It was the most expensive (170/ h) and the seediest clinica I visited this entire trip.

Happy mongering, my friends. I Will Be Back!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2185024]Sad that we won't be hearing from him any longer, at least not under that sobriquet. Its actually not very difficult to detect charlatans. One poster called him out some time ago but ISG protected him perhaps because he was entertaining. I'm saying 'him' but who knows?[/QUOTE]So MRusa007 = Komo?

[QUOTE=MRusa007;2182195]So you are basically saying Rio is a crazy dangerous place now? And most of the others don't say anything like that. Huhhh so confusing, I think I am better off cancelling my trip then.[/QUOTE]Go have fun. I went to Rio back in 2006. Now I have been there about 23 times. I just spent 2 weeks there this year. There are massagems / prives to see in both Copa and Centro (much more in centro). Plenty of good looking women in all shapes. Cost is minimal, about R120 to 200 (USD 33 - 55) depending on the location and how much time you choose.

Plus you have the Termas to see. 4 x4 in centro and Monte Carlo in copa are the ones I like. Cost roughly R400 all-in at 4 x4, and R525 at Monte Carlo. Entrance, girl, and room. If you have a few drinks it will be a little more.

Just be smart like you would in any big city. Don't wear gold necklaces or flash cash in public. If you want to waer a watch, use a cheap one. Although you don't need one since you have a phone. You can take the metro to and from centro until midnight. If it's late at night, and you want to get straight back to your hotel / apt without walking a little, take an Uber. The ubers are pretty cheap, especially now with the high exchange rate. Any specific questions just ask.

I am Canadian of Portuguese Origine and live in Japan, I speak French and Portuguese as first languages. I met many members that can confirm my Identity. I never mentioned in any message I am from Russia or Japan though I do speak Japanese and Russian too. Only the last message is a mistake. Because I had the intention of creating another account and make this forum more entertaining.

I am not a charlatan because I don't do that for money, I just do that for fun and I never advertised anything on here. Because I enjoy mongering.

I am not MRusa, he is from the USA and speaks English as a first language and I don't.

I wrote this message but I wrote it because it is good to keep the forum entertaining.

The message I wrote is from a imaginary guy that's from Moscow and wants to travel to Brazil for the first time.

Is the message a real concern to everyboy? It worked because many replied to my message. Now it is time for you to thank me to keep the forum entertaining.

Gents, am in Rio this week. Can anyone recommend some guaranteed mind blowing dupla (threesome) girls? Much appreciated.

IAYF5.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2184835]There are people born male who identify as female. There even was that woman in the US who though White, identified as Black.

Could be that Komo just identifies as Russian. When he is not identifying as coming from Canada or Japan or. LOL.

We haven't had one this good since Rio Bob said Brazilian girls trusted him because he was a Cabeleireiro.

For the Portuguese challenged, he meant to say Caveleiro not that he was a hairdresser.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2185024]Sad that we won't be hearing from him any longer, at least not under that sobriquet. Its actually not very difficult to detect charlatans. One poster called him out some time ago but ISG protected him perhaps because he was entertaining. I'm saying 'him' but who knows?[/QUOTE]Komo is an actual guy. I met him a couple of years ago in Rio to do a trash boate tour. If I recall correctly, he said he was originally from Morocco but had spent time in Portugal, where he learned Portuguese, at which he is indeed fluent. To the best of my recollection, he looked somewhat like Rajesh on The Big Bang Theory. I don't remember him saying anything about being a Canadian or working in Japan.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2185085]I kinda remember this LOL, this had to be over 10 years ago, you need to get a life![/QUOTE]It is just like watching that one favorite episode of your favorite TV show over and over again.

Trust that over the years many Brazilian women have enjoyed the humor in this anecdote. Hell, it probably even got me laid a time or two.

But, Rio Bob, you are not the only one.

I had picked up a girl who looked like Rhianna in one of the Lido bars and she stayed night. In the morning, we are talking and she says casaco (coat).

I thought she said casar (to marry). I told her (in my limited Portuguese at the time) that I thought we had gotten along well and that the night had been amazing but it was a little soon to think about marriage.

She gave me this puzzled annoyed look, then pointed to the closet. Oh, you want your coat. Sorry.