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[QUOTE=JjBee62;2456134] It's also amazing to hear the "hurry up and finish" grunts and fake moans change to "mi amor, mi amor."[/QUOTE]The latter quotation is typically plan A, and if it fails, the former is plan b. But don't let me fuck with your "fantasies," just isn't kind in a monger forum.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2456316]But Simping, as Balboa has shown is completely different. If you tell a woman she's beautiful, that's considered being a simp. If you ask her how she feels, or what she likes, you're being a simp. If you treat her like anything other than, as we used to say, "a life support system for a pussy", you're being a simp. According to the people who routinely use "stop the simping", if you're not treating women like shit you're a simp.[/QUOTE]Seems like you are confusing it. You can ask them anything. That does not mean you are simping. And nobody is saying to treat anyone like shit. The simping comes in when you are catering to them.
As you were saying in Blakman's 3 some example do this and that so SHE does not feel such and such and so she feels this instead. Make sure SHE is happy. That is simping. Now if it was a regular woman then I am in agreement; you would probably do all of that. You want it to be mutually beneficial. But when you are paying your money, you should be the star of the show. You are not paying her so that you can treat her like Queen Elizabeth. You are paying so that you will be served. When I go into a restaurant to be served and I want steak then I am going to get steak. I am not going to put any consideration on whether the waiter likes to eat chicken or fish over steak.
Several times hookers have come over and said I don't like to do this or that. I tell them they are in the wrong business then; you should have told me that before you came and you never would have been invited. I am the customer. I am paying you. You are not paying me.
Now if I say well okay, how would you like to fuck after she has shitted all over how I wanted to do it, then that is simping. But if I am tired of fucking the way that I like to and now want to take suggestions from her on how we can fuck, that would not be simping.
P. S. When I was in college we were running a train on this Spelman freak chick. There were like 15 guys in line. This chick was engaged to some guy in the Army but she just could not get enough dick. So it comes one of my roommates' turn and he goes in and does some simp shit telling her how she should not be doing this and she should think better of herself. What the fuck dude? Free pussy comes to a screeching halt. But now he turns it into some pimp shit for himself, because from then on she would not fuck any other guy unless he gave her the okay. So now when she comes over to see him, we have to kiss his ass if we want to have any hope of fucking her that day. That bastard is a colonel in the US Air Force now and we all still talk about that simp shit whenever we get together. Don't know whatever happened to her.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2456400]Seems like you are confusing it. You can ask them anything. That does not mean you are simping. And nobody is saying to treat anyone like shit. The simping comes in when you are catering to them.
As you were saying in Blakman's 3 some example do this and that so SHE does not feel such and such and so she feels this instead. Make sure SHE is happy. That is simping. Now if it was a regular woman then I am in agreement; you would probably do all of that. You want it to be mutually beneficial. But when you are paying your money, you should be the star of the show. You are not paying her so that you can treat her like Queen Elizabeth. You are paying so that you will be served. When I go into a restaurant to be served and I want steak then I am going to get steak. I am not going to put any consideration on whether the waiter likes to eat chicken or fish over steak.
Several times hookers have come over and said I don't like to do this or that. I tell them they are in the wrong business then; you should have told me that before you came and you never would have been invited. I am the customer. I am paying you. You are not paying me.
Now if I say well okay, how would you like to fuck after she has shitted all over how I wanted to do it, then that is simping. But if I am tired of fucking the way that I like to and now want to take suggestions from her on how we can fuck, that would not be simping..[/QUOTE]Actually there have been a few here, in the not too distant past, who have said that everyone needs to treat the women like shit and specifically used the "Stop Simping" tag. How you used that tag, which you probably didn't use 30 years ago, is not how it is used today.
Your example, if the guy didn't want to pull train, he shouldn't have been in line. But, to his credit, he turned a profit on the deal. He got the girl doing what he wanted and had you and a bunch of other guys licking his hand to get his handouts. So who was really the simp?
Here's a concept you should understand. If you are in any type of relationship, and I'll elaborate on that, it's in your best interest to keep the relationship on good terms, until it's time to end it.
Any type of relationship. If there's a restaurant you regularly go to, do you insult the hostess and complain to the waitress over nothing? Or do you smile, greet them and enjoy your meals? I've got a favorite little diner. When I walk in, the host shakes my hand, the manager and my favorite waitress both come over and give me a hug. I never have reason to complain about the food, because the waitress won't bring it to my table unless it's right.
Am I a simp because I smile and chat with those people? I'm paying them for food, not conversation. Should I just shut up unless I've got something to complain about? Maybe that makes a better meal for you, but I prefer having a hot Mexican MILF, or her hotter 20 year old daughter, chatting and joking with me, than have someone frowning at me every time I come in.
Now back to Blakman and his 8. He had agreed to keep her there for an extended stay, at a very low price. He got her to tentatively agree to watch him fuck other girls. Even though he was paying her, he was in a relationship with her. He had agreed to have her there for 7 days. It doesn't matter if he was paying her 300 k or $3,000. What mattered, it was for 7 days. Are you still following along?
There are several different options in his situation. He could just go with the drill sergeant routine. When he says jump, she better jump. From his earlier reports, that clearly wasn't going to work, which would have left him either booting her, or leaving her in control.
Another choice would be to forgo any other girls, but that's not what he wanted. That once again puts her on control.
To get what he wanted, which he didn't get, required addressing her desires along with his own. He could have tried your suggestion and it would have failed. Not only would it have failed, it would have left him with the decision to either deal with a pissed off chica, or to boot a pissed off chica. It also would have probably screwed up his session with the other girl.
So, in your mind it's better for him to pay two girls, and not get what he wants from either of them (or not pay them because he's not getting what he wants) than it is to treat one girl nice and get what he wants from both girls?
Call me a simp. Given the choice between arguing with 2 girls and fucking 2 girls, hand me the condoms.
You're tried to tell him what to do without using the information he gave, information which made your suggestion unworkable.
1. His Spanish is weak. Trying to Google translate "get over here and rub my back" while fucking isn't going to work out, especially if the girl you want to rub your back is already in a bad mood.
2. The girl gave him pushback at every turn. She wasn't a meek little "si papi" kind of girl. Giving orders to a pissed off chica, who already doesn't take orders isn't the way to get what you want.
As I've said before, I don't care for transactional sex. I don't want to have a notarized list of the things agreed upon. I don't want to spend half my time arguing whether or not what she did meets the requirements of what I asked for. I don't want to constantly put myself in situations where I have to argue to get what I want.
I want honeymoon sex. I want a girl who can't get enough of me. I want a girl who spontaneously does what I want. I want to be able to go from mish to cowgirl to standing without a discussion over whether or not she likes each position. I want a BBBJ without a discussion.
All of the things I want, I usually get. I don't have to pay extra, I don't have to remind the girl of any agreement and I don't have to tell the girl she picked the wrong profession. All I have to do is smile, drop a few compliments and make sure she's getting as much out of the sex as I am.
Your way works for you, or more accurately, your ways work for you, which ranges between pure alpha male and 50% simp, based on your reports. Everyone else's ways work for them. My way works for me. The way that you decide anyone else should use on any particular day isn't likely to work. You don't know them, you don't know the girl, so how do you know how they should handle each situation? Even when they provide you with the information, you don't use it, yet somehow your way is the right way?
Why is the concept of letting everyone do their own thing so hard for you to grasp?
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2456444]Here's a concept you should understand. If you are in any type of relationship, and I'll elaborate on that, it's in your best interest to keep the relationship on good terms, until it's time to end it.
Any type of relationship. If there's a restaurant you regularly go to, do you insult the hostess and complain to the waitress over nothing? Or do you smile, greet them and enjoy your meals? I've got a favorite little diner. When I walk in, the host shakes my hand, the manager and my favorite waitress both come over and give me a hug. I never have reason to complain about the food, because the waitress won't bring it to my table unless it's right.[/QUOTE]Once again, I never said anything about treating anyone shitty or insulting anyone. So I do not understand why you keep bringing up treating people bad. And I keep relationships on good terms even after they have ended, not just until it is time to end as you have advised. I have an ex-wife, but you do not see me talking bad about her the way many on ISG do. I had a great wife and it was my decision to break up ON GOOD TERMS. I never have broken up with anyone on bad terms.
And any hooker that I have fucked anywhere or ex-girlfriend I can run into them in the middle of the street while I am with another chick and properly greet them and introduce the two people, while most are busy trying to duck and dodge. As a matter of fact, today I took my Russian chick to the beauty supply store. I stayed outside looking at shows on my tablet while she was in getting what she had to get. A Thai chick that I used to mess with that works at a salon rolled up. She asked me what I was doing there and I told her. We talked for a few minutes and when my Russian chick came out I introduced them. So I do not know why you are stating there is some concept that I should understand.
I never said anything about making bad terms in a person's relationship. Almost everyday when I am out riding my bicycle I see an ex-girlfriend out walking exercising with her friends. I always have a quick talk with her. And if she sees me, but I do not see her, then she sends me a message saying that she saw me and I ask well why didn't you say anything to me. There is no bad blood here with anyone sir. I am a great fucking guy and women know this!
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2456444]Why is the concept of letting everyone do their own thing so hard for you to grasp?[/QUOTE]What?! How the fuck can I make someone do something? [B]You said what you thought he should do the same way I said what I thought he should do.[/B] So how is it that you have the concept of letting everyone do their own thing but you are saying I do not? Either we both do or we both don't seeing as we did the same thing which was give advice. We did the same thing, but we did not do the same thing. You are blowing my mind with that Mister Spacely Jedi shit.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2456522]Once again, I never said anything about treating anyone shitty or insulting anyone. So I do not understand why you keep bringing up treating people bad. And I keep relationships on good terms even after they have ended, not just until it is time to end as you have advised. I have an ex-wife, but you do not see me talking bad about her the way many on ISG do. I had a great wife and it was my decision to break up ON GOOD TERMS. I never have broken up with anyone on bad terms.
And any hooker that I have fucked anywhere or ex-girlfriend I can run into them in the middle of the street while I am with another chick and properly greet them and introduce the two people, while most are busy trying to duck and dodge. As a matter of fact, today I took my Russian chick to the beauty supply store. I stayed outside looking at shows on my tablet while she was in getting what she had to get. A Thai chick that I used to mess with that works at a salon rolled up. She asked me what I was doing there and I told her. We talked for a few minutes and when my Russian chick came out I introduced them. So I do not know why you are stating there is some concept that I should understand.
I never said anything about making bad terms in a person's relationship. Almost everyday when I am out riding my bicycle I see an ex-girlfriend out walking exercising with her friends. I always have a quick talk with her. And if she sees me, but I do not see her, then she sends me a message saying that she saw me and I ask well why didn't you say anything to me. There is no bad blood here with anyone sir. I am a great fucking guy and women know this!.[/QUOTE]The entire issue revolves around (and I think this is the fourth time I've stated this) "Simp. " Can you focus on that for a second?
Current popular usage of "Simp" as (I repeat again) Balboa showed, is that if you treat women nicely you are being a "Simp. " Just 3 or 4 months ago we had a guy here, in the Medellin thread, using that line and every reference to women was "bitches" or worse. Every post was complaining about guys not treating women like shit.
If you Google INCEL, "Involuntarily Celibate" you will find loads of this garbage. The reason they can't get laid is because guys like you and I and most of the guys on here, treat women nicely. At least that's their reasoning. We're all "simps" and ruining their non-existent sex life because we've convinced women they don't have to put up with being treated like shit.
That's "Simping. " Simping isn't letting a hooker change the game plan on you. It isn't what your roommate did in college. It's what you originally called "pure simp talk" when I explained how Blakman could get the result he wanted. And your usage at that point was the INCEL usage. I suggested making the girl happy, and making sure she felt special. Your response may as well have been written by INCEL:
[QUOTE]Fuck that noise. Pure simp talk. You are the king. Make that broad give you a back massage while you are fucking the other chick. And when she gets tired she can feed y'all grapes in between.[/QUOTE]Make up your mind. I'm sure you're a great guy and I'm sure you treat women right. However, every now and then you post something that doesn't appear to be treating women right. That was one of those moments.
[QUOTE]Fuck that noise. Pure simp talk. You are the king. Make that broad give you a back massage while you are fucking the other chick. And when she gets tired she can feed y'all grapes in between.[/QUOTE]You tell me. If one of your girlfriends agrees to let you bring another girl over, agrees to sit there in the room and watch you fuck this other girl, tells you she is not going to participate at all, are you going to "make that broad give you a back massage while you are fucking the other chick?" Because if you're the guy that treats women right, then you're not doing that. And if you're doing that you're not only not treating women right, you're starting a breakup at a really bad time, in a really bad way.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2456625]The entire issue revolves around (and I think this is the fourth time I've stated this) "Simp. " Can you focus on that for a second?
Current popular usage of "Simp" as (I repeat again) Balboa showed, is that if you treat women nicely you are being a "Simp. " [/QUOTE]Wrong again. You should go back and read the definition that Balboa posted. Why do you keep making up things that nobody said so you can argue against it? Once again, simping does not mean treating someone nice. It means overly catering and kowtowing.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2456625]You tell me. If one of your girlfriends agrees to let you bring another girl over, agrees to sit there in the room and watch you fuck this other girl, tells you she is not going to participate at all, are you going to "make that broad give you a back massage while you are fucking the other chick?"[/QUOTE]Maybe that is where the problem lies. You are mistaking the HOOKER that Blakman had to be his girlfriend. She was a person that he was paying so that he could get sexual gratification. He was paying so that he could be served (which is why I brought up restaurants. When your order is up you do not run over to the place where the cook sat the food and tell the waitress let me help you with that as you are purporting one should do.)
He was not paying so that she would allow him to please her and make her feel like a queen. In your advice you were telling him to be sure to serve the person that he was paying to serve him. You have to pay the broad AND serve her too? THAT is what would be called simping. You are telling him to be the hooker and the trick at the same time. Why shouldn't she be paying him if he is serving her just as much or more than she was serving him?
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2456134]It's the battle cry of INCEL, Involuntarily Celibate, the whining twats who keep going on shooting sprees because they can't figure out how to get laid. They alternate between blaming their inability to find someone to have sex with on women who don't understand they're supposed to submit to any spineless twit who stares at them while rubbing his crotch, and on men who refuse to treat women like shit.
So they came up with "Stop simping. " They figure they only have 2 options to get laid. They can either crawl up a chicken's ass and wait, or get all men to be as pathetic as they are.
I'm just curious how they infiltrated the mongering world.[/QUOTE]Man what the heck are you talking about? The word simp has nothing to do with this young group of square ass White guys that can not get laid. It is ghetto slang. If we had a friend that we saw who was kissing up to chicks in hopes of getting in good with them, we would tell him to stop being a simp. This was 40 years ago, but I am sure the term dates back probably 100 years in the Black community. There is a saying that goes, "Nice guys finish last. " I didn't make the shit up, but there must be a reason that it exists.
"In some online communities, "simp" exists in the same solar system online as words like "cuck," "soyboy" or "beta" with some distinctions. While "cuck" is a pejorative used to emasculate, a "simp" is used to call out behavior associated with "white knights" or "nice guys". In these cases, men who simp believe that they are owed sex for their good behavior. " [URL]https://knowyourmeme.com/editorials/meme-review/what-is-a-simp-and-why-is-it-trending[/URL].
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2456134]Personally, I prefer something more than purely transactional encounters. It's amazing to watch a cynical puta melt into a giddy schoolgirl with just a few simple compliments. It's also amazing to hear the "hurry up and finish" grunts and fake moans change to "mi amor, mi amor."[/QUOTE]It is still transactional, because if you showed up without money she would not be telling you shit. You can show up with money and say I want you to tell me mi amor mi amor. You show up with sweet words and no money what will the mi amor mi amor change to? But if it helps you to fool yourself that your compliments are what is doing the trick I guess it is all Kool & the Gang.
Same thing with gifts mongers go out of their way to bring hookers. One board member posted that he was in Rio and went to a hooker's apartment. In the corner she had all kind of gifts piled up and told him what do these mfs think I am supposed to do with this stuff. But I guess they thought it was getting them extra points and something more than a purely transactional encounter.
Real talk, the gifts are for the gift givers. Some of whom are trying to build toward the unicorn jumping a rainbow fantasy of a girlfriend experience with someone who is no one's girlfriend because she is everyone and anyone's girlfriend. Last week I gave a girl a gift of blackout curtains because it was too hot to fuck in her Robledo bedroom and I was tired of sweating like a pig. Those curtains were really for me. She seemed surprised how much cooler the room is. She was not surprised when I made no effort to pay her that day. Does that make her my girlfriend? LOL!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2457141]Man what the heck are you talking about? The word simp has nothing to do with this young group of square ass White guys that can not get laid. It is ghetto slang. If we had a friend that we saw who was kissing up to chicks in hopes of getting in good with them, we would tell him to stop being a simp. This was 40 years ago, but I am sure the term dates back probably 100 years in the Black community. There is a saying that goes, "Nice guys finish last. " I didn't make the shit up, but there must be a reason that it exists.
"In some online communities, "simp" exists in the same solar system online as words like "cuck," "soyboy" or "beta" with some distinctions. While "cuck" is a pejorative used to emasculate, a "simp" is used to call out behavior associated with "white knights" or "nice guys". In these cases, men who simp believe that they are owed sex for their good behavior. " [URL]https://knowyourmeme.com/editorials/meme-review/what-is-a-simp-and-why-is-it-trending[/URL].
It is still transactional, because if you showed up without money she would not be telling you shit. You can show up with money and say I want you to tell me mi amor mi amor. You show up with sweet words and no money what will the mi amor mi amor change to? But if it helps you to fool yourself that your compliments are what is doing the trick I guess it is all Kool & the Gang..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2457132]Wrong again. You should go back and read the definition that Balboa posted. Why do you keep making up things that nobody said so you can argue against it? Once again, simping does not mean treating someone nice. It means overly catering and kowtowing.
Maybe that is where the problem lies. You are mistaking the HOOKER that Blakman had to be his girlfriend. She was a person that he was paying so that he could get sexual gratification. He was paying so that he could be served (which is why I brought up restaurants. When your order is up you do not run over to the place where the cook sat the food and tell the waitress let me help you with that as you are purporting one should do.)
He was not paying so that she would allow him to please her and make her feel like a queen. In your advice you were telling him to be sure to serve the person that he was paying to serve him. You have to pay the broad AND serve her too? THAT is what would be called simping. You are telling him to be the hooker and the trick at the same time. Why shouldn't she be paying him if he is serving her just as much or more than she was serving him?[/QUOTE]I'll just put it in one post.
Starting with Blakman.
He agreed to a 7 day term with the girl. She and he established a basic list of things she would and wouldn't do. Can that concept penetrate the fog in your brain? She wasn't going to be there for an hour, for 2 pops, or even for a day. 7 days. A week.
You're renting an apartment for 7 days. The owner gives you a list of the apartment rules. You don't own the apartment for those 7 days. You can't change the rules without getting approval from the apartment owner. If you decide to change the rules on your own, you can expect, if the owner knows about it, to have your stay cut short and you will still have to pay for the 7 days. You may end up paying extra. If it's an apartment you enjoy renting, you'll probably fuck that up too.
Blakman entered into an agreement. The term of the agreement was 7 days. Are you still following, or are you thinking about a guy who went to Madagascar and told you a hooker there wouldn't eat cheese?
If Blakman tried to force a change of his agreement, why would you think the woman would just jump right in and agree? Would you? If you're waiting in line, pulling train on some woman and the guy between her legs tells you to rub his back if you want your turn, are you suddenly his masseuse? I'm sure he'll appreciate it.
Second concept that you have become oblivious to: lowering your DHF. DickHead Factor. You say how great a guy you are and how wonderful you treat women and then insist it's better to be a dickhead with them. Pick a fucking team.
Let's go to the restaurant. A hostess greets you with. "Welcome to (whatever the restaurant is called). How are you today?" Now you could respond with "I'm not paying to answer questions. Get me a table. " That seems to be your current recommendation. Or you could say "I'm doing great. How are you doing?" You might even smile or compliment her. When the waitress shows up and offers a few pleasantries, you could stick with the high DHF responses. Maybe a "don't fuck up my order. " or something equally in line with your line of thinking. Or you could smile, return the salutation and make her feel a bit better about herself.
You don't need to go carry the food, or setup the table. You don't have to wash the dishes. Being nice isn't going to change the bill. Your hamburger isn't going to upgrade to a filet. Assuming being an asshole at the beginning didn't get you kicked out, there's only a small difference in your food, but there's a huge difference in the overall experience.
The small difference in your food? The absence of pubic hair, fecal matter, mucus or other undesired condiments. The huge difference in the experience? The waitress is happy to come to your table. She gives you better service. She's more attentive to any problems and she, along with the hostess, looks forward to every visit.
Call me what you want. I'm not the guy who licked his roommate's balls in order to stand in line, with 15 guys, for a chance to stick his dick into an overused semen collection facility. That's got to be like fucking a milkshake machine.
Given a choice between a girl who is trying to get me to cum as quick as possible, so she can get the fuck away from me, and a girl who won't stop fucking me, at the same price, I'm going with the second one.
If I can change the first one into the second one, without paying more, by dropping a few compliments, I'm happy to toss out a few palabras dulces. Sure, I could instead spend my time figuring how much more I need to pay for BBBJ. I could invest my time into making sure she does everything on my checklist. Or I can invest 30-45 seconds into making her smile and she'll do everything I want without discussion, without an upcharge and without trying to cut it short.
Sticking solely with Colombian women, they like compliments. It makes them feel better about themselves. It changes their attitude. It improves their performance. They aren't getting compliments from their Colombian customers. They aren't getting compliments from their boyfriends. Their mothers complain when they're out selling pussy and complain when they aren't selling pussy. There aren't many people making them feel good about their life.
Along comes one of us simps. We're still paying. Some are paying more, some are bringing gifts. But all we're really doing, because we realize it costs nothing to smile and say a few nice words, is treating them the same way we expect them to treat us.
Yep. There's a hooker in Brazil who doesn't want gifts. There's probably a hooker in Thailand who doesn't want guys to be nice to her. You probably met a girl in Santiago who gets pissed off if a guy compliments her.
There's also a girl in Medellin, practically every week, posting pics on Facebook showing off the gifts someone sent, or brought and 30 of her friends congratulating her. There's a girl calling out her favorite monger because she had a better time with him. And there's a new girl, almost every day hitting me up because some other hooker showed her my, absolutely free to me, sweet WhatsApp message.
There's a girl who sends me videos every day, also free to me, because I tell her how beautiful she is. There's a girl who, because I mentioned I'd like to see another girl eating her out, went out, found a girl, and yesterday morning surprised me with a video of the encounter, again at no cost. All because I make her feel good about herself. She even went to great lengths apologizing and explaining why the video wasn't longer and finished by thanking me for suggesting it.
There's even a girl, from a nice home, with a comfortable living situation, an engineering student, and about the closest thing to a 19 year old virgin as you'll find in Medellin, who is literally begging me to do whatever I want with her. And all it took was telling her she's beautiful.
If I'm paying for sex, I'm paying for sex, exactly the same as paying for a meal in a restaurant. If I can make the experience better by not being a dickhead, I've decided I enjoy great experiences more than I enjoy being a dickhead. The best part about it, for me, because I like to repeat good experiences, is each return visit it gets better. Even though I'm still paying the same, the restaurant treats me like family. The meal is an event worth remembering, rather than something to forget about 15 minutes later.
I'll close with an explanation of transactional sex, just to give you another opportunity to work that false equivalence.
Going to McDonald's and going to a Michelin 3 star restaurant are both transactional eating. You're paying someone to cook for you. They bring you food. You eat it. You leave. At some point later you shit the unused portion out. If the price was the same, which would you prefer?
Read the reviews. "We agreed on 200 k + taxi for doggy, mish and CG, 2 pops, 3 hours, BBBJ and COB. She agreed to let me take photos and video for an extra 50 k."
Or.
"I told her I always pay 200 k and usually the girls stay for 2 or 3 hours."
In the first, every item on the list is a potential issue. She wants another 30 k for BBBJ. You're too big and CG hurts her. She doesn't want you to photo her face. She has to leave early. She didn't agree to 2 pops. How often do guys complain about those things?
In the second instance, the only problem, which I've rarely experienced, is she wants to leave after 1. 5 - 2 hours. Occasionally I get CBJ. Big deal. Unless you're using the cheapest condoms 99% of the difference is in your mind. Usually I don't want the 2nd pop. I have never had a position refused, because I change positions without stopping, pulling out and redirecting. I don't need photos and video, but if I want them, there's no upcharge. On several occasions the girl has grabbed my phone and asked for pictures. I don't need a stopwatch to make sure she blows me long enough. I don't need to count strokes. I don't need to listen to make sure she says "te amo. " There's no checklist I need to refer to. There's only these things:
1. Did she show up?
2. Did we fuck?
3. Did I enjoy it?
There's no "was it like every time with every girl?
That's the difference between the transactional sex you're promoting and the paid sex transactions I prefer.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2457247]That's the difference between the transactional sex you're promoting and the paid sex transactions I prefer.[/QUOTE]This is the fallacy you've wasted an hour of your life engaging in.
[URL]https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Distinction-Without-a-Difference[/URL]
It's all "transactional sex. " You invite them over for two hours, set a price, and given that she's an obvious FB hooker and you are an obvious FB John, the assumption is that she's going to fuck you. You then take whatever she wants to give you beyond an all covered quickie. Sometimes you get more, sometimes you don't, and likely are exaggerating your successes or completely pulling stuff out of your ass to sweeten your argument. That's so easy to do when it comes to presenting personal experiences on the internet. I personally like to to negotiate a few more terms because I can get a casa girl for 75% less than a FB girl if all I'm up for is an all covered quickie. But to each his own, as it's that old "do your own thing" concept you love so much until you want to get involved in one of these protracted circle jerks.
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2457395]This is the fallacy you've wasted an hour of your life engaging in.
[URL]https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Distinction-Without-a-Difference[/URL]
It's all "transactional sex. " You invite them over for two hours, set a price, and given that she's an obvious FB hooker and you are an obvious FB John, the assumption is that she's going to fuck you. You then take whatever she wants to give you beyond an all covered quickie. Sometimes you get more, sometimes you don't, and likely are exaggerating your successes or completely pulling stuff out of your ass to sweeten your argument. That's so easy to do when it comes to presenting personal experiences on the internet. I personally like to to negotiate a few more terms because I can get a casa girl for 75% less than a FB girl if all I'm up for is an all covered quickie. But to each his own, as it's that old "do your own thing" concept you love so much until you want to get involved in one of these protracted circle jerks.[/QUOTE]You forget I've sat and listened to your endless complaints. Casa girls with odor issues, casa girls that wouldn't do what you want and the Veneca who led you around by the dick for a week.
Then there was the time you let them drug and rob you.
However, my favorite will always be your complete mental breakdown because some Venezuelan street rats didn't tell you thanks for the pizza you bought. All because you thought a piece of pizza would finally get the girl, who was leading you around like her pet Chihuahua, to finally put out for you. How did that turn out again?
You are free to do things in your own way. Then find someone new to complain to when it doesn't work out again. And we know how that story always ends.
Every human interaction is transactional. We give, we take, accept or decline. We weigh cost versus rewards and apply ourselves accordingly. However there's a difference between a craftsman building a piece of furniture and someone putting a similar piece together on an assembly line. There's a difference between writing a complete sentence and writing an engaging story. There's a difference between a home cooked meal and grabbing a burger at Presto. Often the better choice costs the same or less, it only requires a bit of effort and skill.
I do enjoy your attempts. Although not as cute, it reminds me of a 4 year old insisting he can tie his own shoes, after putting them on the wrong feet.
[QUOTE=Paulie97;2457395]This is the fallacy you've wasted an hour of your life engaging in.
[URL]https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/Distinction-Without-a-Difference[/URL]
It's all "transactional sex. " You invite them over for two hours, set a price, and given that she's an obvious FB hooker and you are an obvious FB John, the assumption is that she's going to fuck you. You then take whatever she wants to give you beyond an all covered quickie. Sometimes you get more, sometimes you don't, and likely are exaggerating your successes or completely pulling stuff out of your ass to sweeten your argument. That's so easy to do when it comes to presenting personal experiences on the internet. I personally like to to negotiate a few more terms because I can get a casa girl for 75% less than a FB girl if all I'm up for is an all covered quickie. But to each his own, as it's that old "do your own thing" concept you love so much until you want to get involved in one of these protracted circle jerks.[/QUOTE]What you fail to grasp. One of the multitude of things you fail to grasp, my experiences are irrelevant to what I have posted. If the probability of a coin flip coming up heads is 50%, flipping tails 5 times straight doesn't change anything.
However, it's worth noting that more than one person has agreed with the value of using compliments and treating the girls better. Be consistent. Tell each of them they are also likely pulling stuff out of their ass.
After skill and reading all your bitching and complaining about Mr. Enternational, I'm honored to have replaced him at the top of your "Guys who make my vagina cramp" list.
A long time ago a friend told me "If you want to know how well you're satisfying a woman, talk to her friends. " If her friends like you, you're doing things right. If her friends can't stand you, you're just there to help pay the bills.
In the past 3 weeks, 4 of the cheerleader's friends and her sister have messaged me. Three of the friends have suggested I should see them when I'm in Medellin. One has been very specific. Her sister and best friend keep telling me how much she talks about me. Just 2 hours ago she said was rather explicit in telling me how she feels when she talks with me.
Of course I could just be making all this up. It could be gross exaggeration. Certainly it can't be because of my looks. It can't be because of my money, because she's never said anything about money, and because, judging by her mother's house, she doesn't need any. We're left with:
1. I have an incredible penis which she can't wait to ride.
Or.
2. Tossing around compliments and treating women special are effective ways to arouse interest.
Granted, it's all just supposition. The time I spend talking to her and the others may result in nothing. We won't know the answer for a few months. I may ultimately waste hundreds of hours of my time for nothing more than several hours of videos, hundreds of photos, dozens of video calls and an improved language skill.
I'll take the chance.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2461802]Again, you've got the "I'm too lazy to confirm it, so I'm not going to believe it" syndrome. It's quite simple. For example you can go to.
[URL]https://m.myfreecams.com/more/missmfc[/URL]
That's the list of the too earners for the month, along with the bonus they'll receive. Find one of them online. Sit and watch. See how many tokens she receives. 20 tokens is $1 to the model and costs the guys $1. 60 to buy. Do the math. Read through the model's bio. Many include screenshots of their biggest tips, or will list them along with who gave them the tip. All the proof you need is right at your fingertips.
The irony here is you write things that are very difficult to believe and impossible to verify, often things which contradict earlier things you have posted, and then get offended if anyone questions your word. Yet you refuse to believe things which could be verified by any 6th grader in less than 5 minutes.
In case you're wondering, that's called cognitive dissonance.[/QUOTE]Maybe you are a part of the guys who spend $800 usd on line to girls on my cam and chaterbate, I have not seen it, have not witnessed it, and still do not believe it. Many people have seen bigfoot, and me and in my 40 yrs of living have not seen bigfoot, I also do not believe there is a bigfoot, no shade no debate, just my honest opinion. No one is Medellin currently is spending $800 usd on girls for a date, I have not seen it and do not believe it! Pollo Negro is Out!
[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2461886]I have been wrong before and will probably be wrong again. Until I can witness these payment, I will continue to call it BS. Do you know how many fellow mongers I have met in Medellin who showed me photos of girls and the monger and myself finally met in person, they couldn't produce the girl in the pics? I hear all kinds of stories from the east to the west. I can not tell you or other mongers what "you" all may know, but I can most definitely tell you what I don't believe and just don't buy.[/QUOTE]Everyone knows you've been wrong before. I'm beginning to think that's your career path. I already explained to you how you can witness payments like that. You're calling BS on something you can easily verify, yet you refuse to try to verify but.
Nobody knows how many fellow mongers you've met, because knowing you, you're going to make up a number, multiply it by your age or your IQ, same result, then claim you met that many mongers and fucked all their sisters, while their mothers rubbed your balls. Make it easy, just list their ISG handles. Name just one. One monger who showed you pictures of a webcam model, told you he could set you up with the model and then failed to produce.
That's completely irrelevant. I never claimed I could set you up with a webcam model, I never produced a picture. I stated I know a model who receives a weekly large tip from someone she's never met. Fuck. If I wrote that I know a good place to get a cheap lunch with excellent food, you'd be claiming you've met 100 mongers who said they knew where to get the best steak in Medellin, but they all took you to McDonald's, therefore you don't believe me.
[QUOTE]I don't believe girls here in Medellin during the quarantine are earning $800 a day. I could be wrong, I do not believe it though. When I meet the person who can show me in person these girls who can verify that they earn $800 a day, then I will beg your pardon. There is not one chic that I have banged in Medellin that I can not put my hand on or call to come over. Now if you are a certified $800 usd paying member of the buy a twat club, then raise your hand, otherwise I am calling it BS.[/QUOTE]Nobody said girls in Medellin are earning $800 per day. Once again, I stated that my former roommate, a webcam model, receives a weekly tip from a guy and that tip costs him $800. She doesn't even live in Colombia anymore. She is now living in a first world country.
Nobody stated the transaction involved "buy a twat. " I specifically stated the guy has never met the girl. She's a webcam model. She doesn't go to cheap El Centro apartments to fuck clueless clowns for money.
[QUOTE]Its just that simple, don't point me to a website, point me to a whatsapp number and the ability to converse with these high priced internet sensations. Otherwise save it, otherwise all you guys are doing are misleading the readers and setting them up for failure, which I have witnessed in the pass. Just be yourself and don't boost up these girls or these websites that cannot deliver what you are selling. Its just that simple, a name, a number and rate, how hard is that? Pollo Negro is out![/QUOTE]It's like your brain shuts off when you see a post by me.
This all started because I listed several of the crazy things I have witnessed over the years. One of the things I witnessed was a guy, who happens to be a hedge fund manager, who gives a weekly tip, which costs him over $800, to a webcam model. I know this because I shared an apartment (Edificio Poblado Verde, Torre 1 ask the porteros if a tall gringo named Jeff used to live there) with the webcam model he gives the tip to.
Simply because I wrote it, you decided that it's not believable. No other fucking reason. I don't know why, but you long ago decided that I am the enemy and you must defeat me. Unfortunately, the only battle we can have is a battle of the wits, and you have no ammunition.
You can't even keep track of what it is you don't believe. It started as $800 per week to a webcam model as a tip. I even stated that the man has never met the model. But in your tiny little brain that got changed to paying to fuck her in Medellin. Now it's changed again to paying to fuck her every day in Medellin. What's next? Are you going to decide I said she's fucking 75 guys a day in Medellin for $800 per hour. I'm using chicken math, since you're using chicken brain.
This webcam model, like most of the webcam models who are making excellent incomes, is not a prostitute. She wouldn't fuck you for any amount of money. She also has a low tolerance for clueless fucking idiots (maybe that's why we get along so well), so your charm won't work either.
Another clue that's completely wasted on you:
Webcam models work on websites. Specifically they work on webcam websites. That's why they are called "webcam models. " If you want to talk to a webcam model, you go to a webcam website because, and this is the tricky part, [B] Webcam models work on Webcam Websites.[/B].
Giving you the WhatsApp number for any webcam model won't do you any good, because she's not a prostitute, and if she's making good money, she doesn't want to talk to any clueless fucking idiots.
You can find lots of prostitutes who will tell you they are on webcam. If you weren't a clueless fucking idiot you'd recognize that I recently mentioned one by name that can be found on Facebook. She would probably fuck you, but she's out of your price range. She can't really help you with talking about making the big money, because she's just getting started and isn't making much. However, I can guarantee you she will happily fuck you for $800. All you have to do is make the offer.
I'm not setting anyone up for failure. I'm not even sure where that came from. Who can tell what will come out of a chicken brain? If someone wants to go to a webcam site and spend $800 on a webcam model they are guaranteed to succeed. They will no longer have the money and the webcam model will get her share of it ($500 if she's independent, $250-$400 if she works for a studio). Failure is not a possibility. However, if they are stupid enough to think that spending $800 on a webcam model on a different continent will somehow get them laid that night, then they're going to be disappointed.
Again, because your feeble little chicken brain seems to have a problem with this, I never claimed you could fuck my former roommate for $800. Even if she told me to find a guy who would fuck her for $800, I'd give her WhatsApp number to a syphilitic warthog with halitosis before I'd give it to you.
I've got a new tagline for you. Try:
PolloNegro is out of fucking brain cells.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2461989]Everyone knows you've been wrong before. I'm beginning to think that's your career path. I already explained to you how you can witness payments like that. You're calling BS on something you can easily verify, yet you refuse to try to verify but.
Nobody knows how many fellow mongers you've met, because knowing you, you're going to make up a number, multiply it by your age or your IQ, same result, then claim you met that many mongers and fucked all their sisters, while their mothers rubbed your balls. Make it easy, just list their ISG handles. Name just one. One monger who showed you pictures of a webcam model, told you he could set you up with the model and then failed to produce.
That's completely irrelevant. I never claimed I could set you up with a webcam model, I never produced a picture. I stated I know a model who receives a weekly large tip from someone she's never met. Fuck. If I wrote that I know a good place to get a cheap lunch with excellent food, you'd be claiming you've met 100 mongers who said they knew where to get the best steak in Medellin, but they all took you to McDonald's, therefore you don't believe me.
Nobody said girls in Medellin are earning $800 per day. Once again, I stated that my former roommate, a webcam model, receives a weekly tip from a guy and that tip costs him $800. She doesn't even live in Colombia anymore. She is now living in a first world country.
Nobody stated the transaction involved "buy a twat. " I specifically stated the guy has never met the girl. She's a webcam model. She doesn't go to cheap El Centro apartments to fuck clueless clowns for money.
It's like your brain shuts off when you see a post by me..[/QUOTE]Bigfoot theory, save the grand standing insults, it shows your inability to accept when others do not accept your way of thinking. I still do not believe you, Pollo Negro is out!