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[QUOTE=FlyingSamurai;2271581]But it's part of the business I guess.[/QUOTE]It's not always part of the business. Depends where you are. For example, in Germany or Macau you go into a sauna and there are 50+ fully nude women for you to select from in person.
Bad business is bad business whether we're talking about prostitutes or chauffeurs.
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I recently explored Bishkek. The scene is фуккед up. I should have read this first:[/NOPARSE]
[URL]http://www.afew.org/eecaaids2018/sex-workers-kg-eng/[/URL]
Wikipedia is also pretty frank: [I] NGOs and sex workers report harassment and corruption by law enforcement and forced health checks. Since the setting up of the Police's "Department for Combating Human Trfficking and Crimes Against Public Morality" in 2013, the situation has deteriorated. [/I] ([URL]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Kyrgyzstan[/URL]).
It's not the first time in the world that the police claim to be enforcing laws against pimping while working hand in glove with pimps to make life hard for the girls. In this atmosphere of fear the high-quality WGs cannot survive. Only weeds are left in the garden. This explains the dire lineups I saw during my trip. For one thing, no Russian devushki -- fled to greener pastures.
The saunas are the saddest part. The addresses are hard to find and if you show up alone you may be turned away. You're supposed to use a taxi driver. Now if you ask a taxi driver for a recommendation, the first thing he will suggest is a ripoff place in the center. He will get a huge commission, maybe the equivalent of a whole day of driving. But your day will end up ruined.
I did enough research to avoid traps like Viking Sauna. Instead I went to an unknown place called Niagara. Guess what, I still got ripped off. 3000 down and no sex. I did a bit better at the sauna behind Dostuk, largely because I refused to pay in advance. (Important point: never pay in advance no matter how much pressure they put you under.) But it was still a pretty mediocre experience.
The girls are not on-site. They are driven around in cars from place to place. So they are not accountable to particular saunas, but only to the faceless pimps driving the cars -- who will doubtless urge them to rip off tourists as much as possible. A lot of this crackdown was due to jealousy against foreign guys in the first place.
For every girl on the street there are about twenty uniformed guys on the streets: a massive show of force in the effort to change a formerly liberal culture.
As for Bishkek's once thriving nightlife, kilogallons of antiseptic have been sloshed over it. Every time I went to a place, it was like the Hand of Death had discovered my intentions and visited before me. Mansion: shut down. Golden Bull: shut down. Promzona: only the rich uptight crowd in evidence -- devoid of the social lubricant of working girls on a Saturday night.
Sokuluk, fifteen miles out, is a muddy armpit of a place with hopeless lineups. Not recommended.
For the sake of completeness, I also mined VK, the equivalent of Facebook over here. The only person in Bishkek who would friend me turned out to be a ladyboy. Not impressed, not surprised. Dating sites suck everywhere. Tinder was also useless.
From the sex perspective it is like a neutron bomb has been exploded in the city. Some of the clubs have the same names as they did five or ten years ago but they are totally different. As soon as a club starts to attract ladies of easy virtue, it gets "closed for renovations," and only reopened when it is "cleaned up".
I know it helps a lot if you speak Russian. If anybody here makes a positive report, it is probably because they know Russian. But there are two other great international languages that were bridging the cultural gap: (1) sex, and (2) money. If a city is suppressing sex, it is isolating itself from the world and it should not expect to get much money either.
In summary this city does NOT deserve your tourist dollars after what it has done to its more free-spirited women.
"There's a field somewhere beyond all doubt and wrong doing. I'll meet you there. " -- Rumi. [NOPARSE]👳[/NOPARSE].
Well, they have got tasty apples!
[URL]http://www.bishkekescorts.com/[/URL]
[URL]http://vibish.com/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Questner;2312737]Well, they have got tasty apples!
[URL]http://www.bishkekescorts.com/[/URL]
[URL]http://vibish.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]I'm not sure I get your point. As earlier posts made clear, pretty much all these photos are just grabbed off the Internet. They have nothing to do with Bishkek itself.
Sa**na is at Bishkek.
Around 165 cms tall, she is a very pretty brunette of Azerbaijan origin.
Now that makes her very attractive for Indians especially. She has dark hair, dark brown eyes, very tight body (unlike many Russian girls who are beautiful, but with a loose kind of body structure).
Sa is a fitness maniac and you can see her abs! Press her boobs or bums with your fingers and they bounce back like an annoyed Cobra, right back to their original position as soon as you lift your finger. Very tight, attractive. If you can relax and pamper her a bit, top quality GFE assured.
She is not expensive and that's incredible. Not a pro, she makes love, if she wishes and can be yours for 1-2 hours for 50-100 $, purely depending upon your bargaining skills.
If you like what you read and see, drop me a message when at Bishkek and I will be glad to help, mainly to thank friends on Delhi forum, who help / helped when I am at Delhi!
[QUOTE=LarryC#2;236774]I will be visiting Bishkek for the first time in early July. Anyone have any info on nightlife in this place? Any info would be appreciated.
Larry[/QUOTE]In nightclubs usually the same girls as with the site of sex services [URL]www.vibish.com[/URL]. So if in the club you a girl offers to sex for a certain amount, just go to the site to find her and compare the price.
There are not many good clubs there. The club "Retro Metro" is a good atmosphere, there are a lot of foreigners, the prices are acceptable, inside the club security is good, but it is better not to go outside the club alone.
Foxxxy is pushing marketing for the same escort site filled with fake profiles. Don't waste your time as 99% are fake photos from the internet. Just go on badoo and you'll have better luck.
[QUOTE=Foxxxy;2331645]In nightclubs usually the same girls as with the site of sex services [URL]www.vibish.com[/URL]. So if in the club you a girl offers to sex for a certain amount, just go to the site to find her and compare the price.
There are not many good clubs there. The club "Retro Metro" is a good atmosphere, there are a lot of foreigners, the prices are acceptable, inside the club security is good, but it is better not to go outside the club alone.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FlyingSamurai;2335767]Foxxxy is pushing marketing for the same escort site filled with fake profiles. Don't waste your time as 99% are fake photos from the internet. Just go on badoo and you'll have better luck.[/QUOTE]Well, first of all, Asia girls are afraid of being recognized and do not put their photos. There is a category with real photos ([URL]http://vibish.com/real-photo[/URL]) and there are real photos of girls. Secondly, Tinder and Bad are not as popular in Asia as in the West, and you can't find a girl for the night there quickly. Although also an alternative to the site.
Has anyone been in the place by the Lenin statue in Bishkek? Seems high end. We didn't stay because they wouldn't give us prices.
Does anyone know if bipopka web site is still active? The government tried to shut it down about 5 years ago but it was moved to another domain, which I forgot. I can see from some posts within the last year the scene in Bishkek has changed a lot. There are a lot more fake pictures and posts.
[QUOTE=ShiftTab;2416441]Does anyone know if bipopka web site is still active? The government tried to shut it down about 5 years ago but it was moved to another domain, which I forgot. I can see from some posts within the last year the scene in Bishkek has changed a lot. There are a lot more fake pictures and posts.[/QUOTE]You could have tried googling bipopka before asking here. It comes up easily on google, and is now called vipbish [URL]http://vibish.com/stories/494-bipopka[/URL].
Hi all!
Kyrgyz girls with real photos here [URL]https://bool.kim[/URL].
[QUOTE=Boolkim;2483508]Hi all!
Kyrgyz girls with real photos here [URL]https://bool.kim[/URL].[/QUOTE]Thanks, very useful. Do you know what relation this website has to bipopka?
Just spent 2 days in Bishkek. I visited a massage apartment from bool. Kim. All the girls were ugly so I left.
Now I'm in Osh. I keep reading about hidden saunas with Uzbek girls that will fuck for cheap, but I've yet to find any. I tried translating Russian to a taxi driver and he didn't understand. That could be heaven if I could find it.
[QUOTE=NRandom940;2540703]Just spent 2 days in Bishkek. I visited a massage apartment from bool. Kim. All the girls were ugly so I left.
Now I'm in Osh. I keep reading about hidden saunas with Uzbek girls that will fuck for cheap, but I've yet to find any. I tried translating Russian to a taxi driver and he didn't understand. That could be heaven if I could find it.[/QUOTE]I just made an arrangement with a girl from [URL]vbish.com[/URL], she said she is from an agency and has a few girls to choose from. The pictures all look really beautiful (no face but body looks perfect). They are going to pick me up at the airport on my arrival. For US $220 day, I can have her. Do you think this is a scam or is this legit? Anyone have recent experience? We use WhatsApp to chat in Russian, she said her English is very bad so I used Google Translate to deal with her. I do not want to travel halfway around the world to find some ugly girls waiting for me.