Monterrey

One of the bars that used to be at the pinnacle of success in Monterrey was Matehuala. It fell out of favor incrementally over the last several years due to the eventual dominance by El Infinito, of bars in it's same class that is. But, even compared to the medium and high level clubs, I can recall Matehuala being a treasure trove of quality girls. I remember Matehuala's hay day. It was by far the Top Dog in Monterrey, and deserving of it's former notoriety, just as deserving as El Infinito was at the height of it's success, and possibly more so. IMHO, the height of success for El Infinito had come and gone prior to the recent closing. Even with El Infinito being one of the best in the city, I think it had seen it's better days, maybe 2-3 years ago, compared to it's most recent past, before the closing. A number of girls have tried moving over to Matehuala from El Infinito, but unfortunately business has been really bad for them. Even still. Things are not bouncing back for the girls. Were I to be hearing that girls are doing better, it would signal an end to our "recessioin. " Unfortunately, that's not what I'm hearing. And, of all the bars that have the potential to resurrect the lower level strip club scene, Matehuala is at the top of the list, if for no other reason than they have the same owners as El Infinito, and they have the historical notoriety to quickly initiate a rebound.

In the interest of posting about the conditions on the ground with respect to the subject at hand in a timely manner, does anyone have their own assessment of where things are this week at some of the other bars?

[QUOTE=Strike 69; 1197721]It is a real pity that Asian escorts / strippers are extremely rare items in Mexico, is way more easier to drill Russian / Eastern European pros in DF but absolutely no Asian ladies, qué lastima!

Back to topic I am confident that as soon those incompetent fascist puritans of the PAN party gets kicked out of power (at a federal and municipal level) things will start returning to normal in a slow but constant way in Monterrey.[/QUOTE]Well, altruistically speaking, the intentions of the PAN party were noble, to reduce the scourge of drugs upon a society that really needs to be cleaned up in a very big way. But, conversely, that's what Mexico's primary value in the Western Hemisphere is, at least to me. To engage in true individual freedom, and the pursuit of happiness, with little restriction upon the individual by government.

If the PAN party were successful in cleaning things up, it would impose more control upon some of the activities we may disagree with, a good thing in some respects, ie: curbing the drug business. But, unfortunately, they are also likely to impose more control on the activities we enjoy in Mexico. If that happens, we are no better off with respect to mongering than we were as Gringos living in the USA, and nuestros amigos South of the US border can count on having bluer balls too.

So, while I may have initially believed in the PAN party's original intent, I can see that those intentions have infringed upon my own pursuit of happiness. Bring back the party of graft, corruption, and under the table deals. Re-establish Mexico as the "land of the free" once again so we can get back to a safe, secure, and cheap mongering experience.

I ran into a few girls that worked at Tango and now working at Azul Tequilla. Tango was always the lowest of the low, and the girls had no class, but they were young, hot and slutty. The problem with bars like Azul is salidas are high. They will try to get about 850 pesos from you, especially from the Gringo. But, I was able to negotiate bar down to around 550 pesos. Thats still high, but better than 850p. I think we lost out when they close bars on Villagran because you could pay less to the bars for salidas, maybe 350p. And they didn't raise the price if you are Gringo or whoever. So, now at medium bars you pay much more for salidas. Girls cost the same, but bars are higher. Girls are all there in different bars, but now it costs more. We need to get the girls back to the low bars so we pay less for salidas. Its that simple. If you come to Monterrey, visit Matehuala, El Cielo, etc. Or we are doomed to pay higher prices for salidas in the medium bars.

[QUOTE=MonterreyDude;1197840]If there were any Asian escorts or strippers they would be quoting so high they would be out of our reach, just like Venezuelan escorts or Brazilian.[/QUOTE]Asian or Brazilian girls in Mexico, yes, the price is high. Asian or Brazilian girls in Asia or Brazil, no, the price is cheap. The supply of Asian girls or Brazilian Girls in Asia or Brazil is so much higher in Asia or Brazil compared to the number of customers, they are cheaper there. It is like everywhere else. Hombres in Mexico see something different in a Brazilian or Asian Girls, and the price goes way up. Take the same Asian or Brazilian girl and the price is dirt cheap in Asia or Brazil in comparison to seeing them in Mexico. Los Hombres, what is the price of a Swidish girl in Mexico? Don't ask. You can't afford it.

[QUOTE=Blknbluballs;1198330]I ran into a few girls that worked at Tango and now working at Azul Tequilla. Tango was always the lowest of the low, and the girls had no class, but they were young, hot and slutty. The problem with bars like Azul is salidas are high. They will try to get about 850 pesos from you, especially from the Gringo. But, I was able to negotiate bar down to around 550 pesos. Thats still high, but better than 850p. I think we lost out when they close bars on Villagran because you could pay less to the bars for salidas, maybe 350p. And they didn't raise the price if you are Gringo or whoever. So, now at medium bars you pay much more for salidas. Girls cost the same, but bars are higher. Girls are all there in different bars, but now it costs more. We need to get the girls back to the low bars so we pay less for salidas. Its that simple. If you come to Monterrey, visit Matehuala, El Cielo, etc. Or we are doomed to pay higher prices for salidas in the medium bars.[/QUOTE]I went to this bar and found a girl that said she could leave with me for 350 pesos. Manager said I would have to pay 350 pesos to the bar. The girl said she will go, but asked me to wait because she has to do privado with another customer. So, I wait for her for a long time, many customers. But the girl did not change clothes to leave. So, I am tired of waiting for her, and not sure why she promised to go but wasting time. So, I asked the waiter why she is not ready to go. I already pay him the 350 pesos. So, he asked her why, and she said she did not promise to go with me. She told the manager she can not leeve with me for 350pesos. My waiter said she refused to do salida with me, and he return my money. I am angry, but what can I do? At lis I get the money back from him.

So, I leave this bar and am in taxi near avenida madero why la calle galeana. I see really hot girl on corner. I asked her how much and she said 350pesos. Ah, ok I still have my 350 pesos. So I ask her to my hotel. She refuse to go to hotel, but taked me to her place. I give her my 350pesos. Big mistake but it turn our very good! She remove her top and have beautiful big tits, and am really hot for her. But, notice something very strange about her. But, she make me hot anyway. Am close to spraying her with my leche. So, I decide to do oral on her. I think she is very hot and enjoy it very much. It is better to have sex than to luz my 350pesos. But, it is really dark in the room and I can't really see what is happning. She feels like an hombre. But, before I understand what happen am covered with leche all over my face and in my mouth. It was great! If you like this kind of thing then follow the advise of the hunter.

[QUOTE=El Buscador; 1198437]If you like this kind of thing then follow the advise of the hunter.[/QUOTE]Kind of funny, but give it a rest! What we need is real reporting and not a bunch of hog wash. Seriously, the low end bars in Monterrey are in crappy shape, and using up band-width just to insult or make fun of other members isn't going to help any of us one little bit. I don't agree with the dooms day posts, and I think they're exaggerated. But, none the less, I just wish both sides would start contributing useful information instead of constantly bickering back and forth out of some self-aggrandizing "gotcha" motivation. Aren't you guys interested in mongering, or has trolling become the primary motivator.

So is el infinito and the villagran clubs reopened yet or what?

Not just yet but they will start opening withinn 15 days.

[QUOTE=Jinxx;1198791]So is el infinito and the villagran clubs reopened yet or what?[/QUOTE]

Monterreydude mention they open the clubs soon. I avise you stay away for maybe one month more as many beleive that there will be one more attack as the same as sabino gorda to make the revenge. The war between the cartel and zeta maybe get stronger as they dump 35 dead zeta bodies on the street of Veracruz this week to make the strong statement.

Please take my avise in to the consideration. I know the fat old man with the bald spot and his aliases are to make the attack to me again but he has been wrong the entire time about Monterrey.

It has nothing to do with there being a greater likelihood that the strip clubs on Villagran will be targeted by the cartels. It has everything to do with city officials thinking that the strip clubs on Villagran are undesirable, and should be closed for good.

They have wanted to close the strip clubs on Villagran for years. They're using Sabino Gordo to close the strip clubs on Villagran, not because they are truly vulnerable to cartel attack, but because they think the bars detract from their intended presentation of Monterrey. Just as Las Pulgas on Reforma have always been a target for city officials, the strip clubs on Villagran have also.

There is a push-on at the political level to clean up some of the seedy areas of Monterrey, and it has nothing to do with cleaning up the cartels. Reforma was just recently demolished with only about two days notice to the occupants. Stripped clean, and absolutely no residual evidence that it ever even existed. There today, gone tomorrow.

Sabino Gordo simply gave them an excuse to shut down Villagran. It's that simple. Sabino Gordo never was a "target. " It was two rival gangs with ichy trigger fingers. That's from the official investigation. So, all this hype about the cartels targeting this, the cartels targeting that, especially with respect to the strip clubs, is BS. The strip clubs have not endured one instance of "targeting" by the cartels of any kind. Even the Givenchy murders a number of years ago were committed against the orders of the cartels, and the killers were bumped off by their own as a result.

The murders at Sabino Gordo, as unfortunate as they may have been, served their political purposes quite well. The strip clubs on Villagran are only more vulnerable compared to 6-months ago because city politics made them so. And we, as mongers, have no additional vulnerability just because we are sitting in a strip club.

The vulnerability exists from the overall instability of Mexico attributable to the cartels. Statistically speaking, our potential for vulnerability is just as high at St. Augustine's Mall as it is in a strip club. Why attribute any more vulnerability to the strip clubs when there is absolutely no evidence that they possess more vulnerability than anywhere else. Statistically, your vulnerability as a monger, even from the terrible acts of the cartels, crime, and traffic accidents combined, is so low that to consider it as part of your decision to visit Monterrey is totally and completely ridiculous.

For people who are not understand what is happen in Mexico right now, the cartels and zetas are not gangs, they are armies fighting for control over Mexico. Mexico is right now in a Civil War. Only a dumb fat old gringo with a bald spot that think he know more about Mexico than a Mexican that lives here would not know this.

I tell you before not to go out to Villagran after the Encanto bar suffer the killings and less than one month later they make the massacre at Sabino. And I tell you now do not go to the clubs for minimal one month after they open again.

The unspongebob bald gringo does not know what happen in Mexico because he does not live here.

[QUOTE=El Cazador; 1199661]For people who are not understand what is happen in Mexico right now, the cartels and zetas are not gangs, they are armies fighting for control over Mexico. Mexico is right now in a Civil War. Only a dumb fat old gringo with a bald spot that think he know more about Mexico than a Mexican that lives here would not know this.

I tell you before not to go out to Villagran after the Encanto bar suffer the killings and less than one month later they make the massacre at Sabino. And I tell you now do not go to the clubs for minimal one month after they open again.

The unspongebob bald gringo does not know what happen in Mexico because he does not live here.[/QUOTE]I am sorry, I must disagree. Am Mexican living in San Diego. I am in Tijuana mostly, but I sometimes come to Monterrey for business. But, you sound like you are proud of the Cartels and that you want civil war. They are not an army. They are terrible criminals fighting a war over control of an illegal business. The regular guy living in Mexico just wants peace. A civil war is when regular Mexicans fight each other about political disagreements. I have hundreds of friends and relatives living in Mexico, and am Mexican, but educated in the US. You should stop saying that we Mexicans are fighting a civil war. That is not true.

Does anyone know what happened to Karen of Luces azules? She was a young big titted hottie with huge pussy lips and clit, any info about her whereabouts will be very much appreciated.

[QUOTE=El Tiburon;1198420]Asian or Brazilian girls in Mexico, yes, the price is high. Asian or Brazilian girls in Asia or Brazil, no, the price is cheap. The supply of Asian girls or Brazilian Girls in Asia or Brazil is so much higher in Asia or Brazil compared to the number of customers, they are cheaper there. It is like everywhere else. Hombres in Mexico see something different in a Brazilian or Asian Girls, and the price goes way up. Take the same Asian or Brazilian girl and the price is dirt cheap in Asia or Brazil in comparison to seeing them in Mexico. Los Hombres, what is the price of a Swidish girl in Mexico? Don't ask. You can't afford it.[/QUOTE]


It is true what you said a Venezuelan, Argentinian or Brazilian prostitute charge 3x or 4x more in Mexico than back at home, I have read local South American forums and men over them said that Mexican men are "boludos" (assholes - pendejos) due paying those ridiculous high prices to their women. Regarding Swedish girls even in Sweden local Swedes cannot afford to hire and drill a Swedish working girl either because she is way to expensive or because that Swede risks himself of going to jail due prostitution begin absolutely illegal over there. In the other hand non pros Swedish girls have fame of spreading their legs quite easily but that's a different story.

An ironic fact though is that Mexican Mediterranean brunettes ladies are BIG stock in Sweden (due the country being infested with blondes and redheads) I have seen it with my own eyes more than once, those Swedes guys went absolutely crazy with a dark haired brunette Mexicana, it is even more ironic the same but in the opposite way would happen in Mexico with blonde Swedish girls.

Asian girls in Mexico are extremely rare, finding an Asian working girl is going to be like the local saying says: "encontrar una aguja en un pajar". Some High End clubs in DF are infested with Russian / Eastern European escorts and although they are very expensive they are still affordable taking in account the average cost of p4p in Mexico City which sadly are already expensive (a third world capital with first world prices regarding the sex market, what a non sense)

[QUOTE=Strike 69; 1200407]Asian girls in Mexico are extremely rare, finding an Asian working girl is going to be like the local saying says: "encontrar una aguja en un pajar". Some High End clubs in DF are infested with Russian / Eastern European escorts and although they are very expensive they are still affordable taking in account the average cost of p4p in Mexico City which sadly are already expensive (a third world capital with first world prices regarding the sex market, what a non sense)[/QUOTE]Your comments about Asian girls is especially interesting. I perceive many Mexican girls to have distinctly Asian features, especially the ones that have Mexican Indian Ancestry, when Mexicanos do not seem to easily pickup on this parallel.

I always kind of wonder if most Mexicanos are mostly blind to this parallel, and if the Asian titillation that I see in so many Mexican girls is lost on most Mexicanos. I am frequently told by my Mexican friends that they can't see the Asian influence in many Mexican girls, an influence that I always pick-up on right away.

Thankfully, I can easily detect the parallel. Why thankfully? Because, it is relatively cheap for the ones that I perceive to have Asian features, and because this combo is perfect for my preferences, Mexican/Asian. And, since most Mexicanos seem to shun the girls that are of Mexican Indian (Asian) ancestry, referring back to your observation that what is in abundance is of no interest, and what is rare is sought after and expensive, I get what I think are the very best ones really cheap.