Giotto's Lodge in Bangkok

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy] Also, no idea how to serve white wine... a chilled wine is always served 1/3 of the glass (enough for 2 good sips), never more otherwise it is no longer at the right "chilled" temperature. [/QUOTE]

Sorry Frenchy, but there is no perfect way to enjoy white wine!

If it is getting warm in the glass, then by GOD you better well down it.

If it is nice and cool and looking like it can stay that way, then you should swirl it around in an exilerating fashion, before you take the next drink.

Give me a break! I must label the man that can not enjoy a nice white wine while in Thailand as pretentious.

But hey . . . don't worry too much, that's just me. :)

If you want to enjoy a glass of white wine, or anything else that your palet can identify (beer, good food, hot girls, or a comfortable bed), then you really should quit your high-faluting-bickering and just head over to Livington's Lodge (Giotto's Place).

Believe me (I've stayed everywhere from the Grand Hyatt to Hotel 27 on Soi 22), you can't find a better place than Livingston's Lodge. And yes . . .

That is my opinon.

poster out . . .

[QUOTE=PosterLion]Sorry Frenchy, but there is no perfect way to enjoy white wine!

If it is getting warm in the glass, then by GOD you better well down it.

If it is nice and cool and looking like it can stay that way, then you should swirl it around in an exilerating fashion, before you take the next drink.

Give me a break! I must label the man that can not enjoy a nice white wine while in Thailand as pretentious.

But hey . . . don't worry too much, that's just me. :)[/QUOTE]

Look, I couldn't care less if you call me pretentious, when I fork 7,000 for a bottle of White wine, I want to drink it properly. One would think that in such a restaurant as the Scirrocco the sommeliers are trained...

I guess opinions are like arse-holes right?

[QUOTE=Riceguy]I second the motion of creating a food thread. I'm a chef and I've been lurking for a long time on this board. [/QUOTE]

I suggest you change hotels (if you still can). Giotto's manager (Guido) is also a chef (and a very good one I have heard).

Truthfully speaking, Thai Cuisine isn't that refined. There are some great dishes, but far from being as refined as Vietnamese food for example.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Look, I couldn't care less if you call me pretentious, when I fork 7,000 for a bottle of White wine, I want to drink it properly. One would think that in such a restaurant as the Scirrocco the sommeliers are trained...

I guess opinions are like arse-holes right?[/QUOTE]

and most arse-holes are much warmer than the white wine you have at your table, and yes i understand your qualm if you felt like you overpaid, but hey man, you made your choice already!

if you feel that bad about it then i have some grave and joyful advice . . .

go to the nearest 7-11, buy whatever they have that suits your palet (i suggest beer or 100 piper), and go drink it on the street.

it's much cheaper that way, and you just might notice some things you never noticed before. hmmm . . .

yes . . .

i think this is good medicine for you :) :) :)

and

ha ha ha ha

i am from the very sophisticated state of mind we call OKLAHOMA :)

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Truthfully speaking, Thai Cuisine isn't that refined. There are some great dishes, but far from being as refined as Vietnamese food for example.[/QUOTE]

i feel like picking on you.

you say thai food is not refined. i want to know why you would say that.

thai food relies on four main ingredients: sugar, lemon, hot peppers, and salt (or fish sauce).

The best chefs from New Orleans ponder that all delicious food is made from sugar, fat, and dough.

The thais got new orleans beat by 1 ingredient, and that is supposing that the thais don't like fat, which is an untrue statement, believe me, the thais eat fat like a lion in africa.

They go straight for the intestines and the gut!

but wait, i am getting a bit ahead of myself, because i must ask you:

what makes Vietnamese food so refined?

poster . . .

[QUOTE=PosterLion]i feel like picking on you.[/QUOTE]

Actually, that's ok, since I am only offendedif it comes from people I respect ;)

[QUOTE=PosterLion]what makes Vietnamese food so refined?[/QUOTE]

Have you tasted Vietnamese food before? and I'm not talking about sugar and Lemons.

I have heard that Thai cuisine is really good at not only bringing the heat in the spices, but also they're good at layering flavors in the heat too and balancing them all out. It all sounds fantastic to me, because the thai food we get here in the States ain't all that impressive. I'm just looking to get a better understanding of the flavors and the techniques. The refinement I can do back here.

Unfortunately I booked through agoda, and it's a done deal. And besides, when I looked on agoda, LL had no availability. I'm swinging back through on my way out of SE Asia at the end of March, maybe I'll check it out then. It all depends on how low on cash I am.

As far as white wine goes, on a hot day 90% of the time I'm all about the crisp cold beer, but on the other 10% of the time a really nice light white wine does hit the spot. I think the thing that beer has on wine is that crappy beer can only get so crappy, but awful wine can curdle your stomach.

Cheers,

Riceguy

Darn, what did I start here?

Anyone wants to talk about flowers instead?

Guys,

I created a new thread: Restaurants in Bangkok.

Feel free to write anything good or bad about restaurants here in Bangkok in there.


Giotto

[QUOTE=Centaurus]Darn, what did I start here?

Anyone wants to talk about flowers instead?[/QUOTE]Centaurus,

BESTARD!

I will NOT CREATE a thread "Flower Shops in Bangkok".

Btw., one of my MSCs works in a flower shop. She can easily compete with Tulip girls :) ...


Giotto

[QUOTE=PosterLion]Sorry Frenchy, but there is no perfect way to enjoy white wine!

If it is getting warm in the glass, then by GOD you better well down it.

If it is nice and cool and looking like it can stay that way, then you should swirl it around in an exilerating fashion, before you take the next drink.

Give me a break! I must label the man that can not enjoy a nice white wine while in Thailand as pretentious.
...
[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Look, I couldn't care less if you call me pretentious, when I fork 7,000 for a bottle of White wine, I want to drink it properly. One would think that in such a restaurant as the Scirrocco the sommeliers are trained...

I guess opinions are like arse-holes right?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PosterLion]and most arse-holes are much warmer than the white wine you have at your table, and yes i understand your qualm if you felt like you overpaid, but hey man, you made your choice already!

if you feel that bad about it then i have some grave and joyful advice . . .

go to the nearest 7-11, buy whatever they have that suits your palet (i suggest beer or 100 piper), and go drink it on the street.

...

i am from the very sophisticated state of mind we call OKLAHOMA :)[/QUOTE]Posterlion, NicFrenchy,

What the hell is going on here :) ?

I fail to see any useful coherence between white wine and arseholes. But we can try to go into details - please, both of you get over here, let's drink a bottle of white wine on the house. NicFrenchy, you get it in a cooler with a decent white wine glass, and Posterlion, for you I will personally buy some plastic cups.

I will drink [b]red[/b] wine, as usual :) !


Giotto

PS: Posterlion, you have some hard days out there in the US, right :) ?

[QUOTE=Giotto]...

BESTARD!...
Btw., one of my MSCs works in a flower shop. She can easily compete with Tulip girls :) ...


Giotto[/QUOTE]
Giotto, please create a new thread named flower girls VS. Tulip girls.
thank you ;)

PS. Hey Posterlion, OKLAHOMA makes a lovely little Bordeaux, right? The Chateau Oil rig 1982 is slightly presumptuous, yet it has a great finish of oak, berries, and sweet light crude.
;)

[QUOTE=Giotto]Posterlion, NicFrenchy,

What the hell is going on here :) ?[/QUOTE]

Not sure... guess I got carried away :)

[QUOTE=Giotto]Centaurus,

BESTARD!

I will NOT CREATE a thread "Flower Shops in Bangkok".

Btw., one of my MSCs works in a flower shop. She can easily compete with Tulip girls :) ...


Giotto[/QUOTE]

Hmmm. A flamewar about chilly white wine gets them an invitation to the Lodge, wine on you??!

Me personally, I hate tulips and love roses ...


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Hi Centaurus,

Those two are nice guys and never mention the words "flower" or "flowers"!

Thanks,

Giotto[/red]