Lisbon

[QUOTE=Matou;2271454]Casas? Certainly the best places where I spent my time and money during 10 years. Independent girls? Beurkkkkkkk. Except a few girls that you have (now) to look for during hours, they all ask for 200/250 euros for one hour. The girls asking for 100 euros for one hour are also finished.[/QUOTE]

I beg to differ: "Casas" being better than independent girls is no longer true. And, as a matter of fact, "casas" are slowly disappearing (even if there are more "massage parlours" where, in most of them, you'll never get beyond the "gourmet" handjob they call "lingam"). There are still enough independent girls to make us happy. I've been (and others too) mentioning them here quite regularly. And if they ask you for 200/250 euros / one hour you can let them know that you're fully aware that the standard fee is 100/120 (150 for outcalls) and you are a tourist but not a fool.

[QUOTE=Matou;2271454]I repeat: "avoid absolutely Lisboa".

[/QUOTE]If that's your opinion, stick to it. More girls will be available to us with a different one.

Matou,

I think what Kama is saying is completely correct.

The low-priced casas in Lisbon, with a published address and ladies immediately available with a line-up as soon as the customer arrives without an appointment, have been in decline for quite some time, largely replaced by independents sharing trick pads and by agency ladies.

There are a couple of solutions. As you suggested, you could go elsewhere. But for the most part the same trend is occurring throughout Europe. A notable exception is a couple of places in Madrid, one of which is Placer Madrid and the other is Palacio Del Placer (they are related to each other and sometimes ladies work at both places). They have been charging 50 euros for a half-hour session for a long time with no upsells, and BBBJ is standard and many of the ladies even do CIM and anal with no surcharge. Most of the ladies get excellent reviews. Some of them have been there 8-10 years, so many are in their 30's, but they still seem to attract an occasional new lady in her 20's who immediately gets good reviews.

Not sure if your travel from France is recreational enough that you can choose your own destination, but if it is, you might want to check out Madrid. There are plenty of links in the Madrid forum. You lose the scenic beaches of Portugal, but Madrid is a nice city with great museums, and good day trips on the train that are not ridiculously expensive.

Locking in low prices for independents as a tourist is always a challenge in any location. I think the best way is to plan ahead and lock them in a bit. I like to read reviews, so if I see a lady who has a lot of excellent reviews on a local board for say 60 euros for 30 minutes, I would mention those prices and the reviews in a WhatsApp message when booking an advance appointment. If there is a specific reviewer who recommends her a lot, I might say that he recommended her to me (especially if he accepts private messages and in fact did recommend her via private message). That kind of locks her in. She knows you have an online presence, so if she stands you up she knows you might mention that online; she knows that you are familiar with the rates she charges locals, so she is unlikely to try to charge you more; she feels she will disappoint her referral source if she treats you badly, and she knows you might write a review, so she has incentive to perform well. Communicating with an independent in advance using that technique, booking the appointment in advance, and confirming the appointment before you arrive, works wonders for a tourist to get the same prices and service that is offered to locals.

[QUOTE=HotSauce691;2271820]Has anyone tried Catia Morais from excortprivada? I'm wondering much different does she look from her pictures because I know there is a little photoshop done in all of escortprivada pics.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Hopefully someone who has seen her will chime in, but I doubt it since her profile just went up a week or so ago, and there are no reviews of her yet on the local board. So it may be up to you to take one for the team.

Her apartadox video should be active in a few days (based on how long it has usually taken for a video to appear for new ladies).

Videos are more difficult to photoshop than pictures, and usually show some face, so they are a good source for analysis. If you see a lot of blurriness around a lady's bottom as she shakes it in a video, expect it to be bigger in real life than in the video, though.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-CatiaMorais-4132.html[/URL]

Realistically, the 48 kg. In her profile is Escortprivada profile is likely a bit low if she really is that busty (although she is only listed as 5 feet tall). If she speaks that many languages, she is likely older than her listed age of 18, unless Foreign Languages was her absolute favorite class in high school and she was a stellar student.

Fortunately she does list CIM in her profile, which is usually a good sign that she delivers a good performance.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/catia-morais/[/URL]

So realistically, expect a nice looking blond probably in her 20's with relatively large breasts, probably weighing a little more than 48 kgs. , who will probably be a pretty good fuck. You might get something better than that, but there are no guaranties until a lot of reviews appear.

What's the standard cost of a duo?

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2268543]The duo reviews of Carlota and Carolina d'Almeida have been numerous and excellent across all three review boards and gradually improved as they got more comfortable having sex with each other, including plenty of kissing that is mentioned in the reviews. They would clearly be your best choice. Hopefully Carlota will be back from surgery (presumably breast augmentation since she has mentioned that in the past to reviewers) by the time you do your trip.

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If not, there are other choices that do not have the same level of certainty. I have done the duo of Sara and Alexandra and they know and like each other in real life and they did very significant interaction including kissing and oral, but I am always dismayed that I have a wonderful time with each of them, and in the duo, but several other reviewers who have seen them separately did not like them as well as I did. I cannot explain that. One possible explanation, that I don't mean offensively to other reviewers, is that Sara in particular likes sex and likes to cum and really gets into a session if she is having a good time. Based on the content of the negative reviews, I can't help but wonder if those reviewers just expected to get serviced and didn't try to get her off with DATY, etc. I simply don't know, so I try to caveat my recommendation of these two by mentioning the occasional negative review from others..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Seraph2099;2272899]What's the standard cost of a duo?[/QUOTE]For the EscortPrivada ladies it is simply twice the cost of a solo. One lady for an hour is 150 euros, so the cost of a one-hour duo is 300 euros (150 euros per lady).

For non EscortPrivada ladies, you would just need to send them a WhatsApp message to determine the price.

My first time in Lisbon / Portugal. Thanks to the wealth of knowledge in this forum, I hit the ground running.

I was to land at noon today and was looking forward to an evening of fun. But due to a mess up with my connections (never flying emirates again), it was 10 pm by the time I checked into my hotel. Frustrated that I had lost the evening, I made a desperate attempt to contact Rita at 11 pm. Surprisingly, she responded right away and was ready to come in that late. After a few back and forth in whatsapp, it was 1 am when she came to my hotel. This delay was partly because of my inexperience and partly due to miscommunication in English. For instance, her menu was not listed both in her apartadox page and in her portalprivada page. So I tried roundabout ways of finding this out, by mentioning her reviews here and in gp-pt. (There are countries where girls do not explicitly discuss menus over phone.) She got very defensive about how some of the things in her reviews are not true etc etc. Figuring that whatsapp was not working out, I called her. She was very comfortable directly discussing her menu on the phone (lesson learnt). Essentially, everything is YMMV based on the hygiene of the guy. I liked her frankness and was pretty sure things were going to work out between us.

In person, she is the real deal folks. Her face is very pretty. She has a tiny rose ring which is a big turn on for me. It started as a nice GFE foreplay, but she resisted my repeated attempts at DFK. (I usually consider my oral hygiene as perfect, so I was a bit let down on this. But hey this is YMMV.) Once the clothes come off, you realize what a beauty she is. Her breasts are spectacular. If you take your time to make her nipples erect, you will be rewarded. The entire session was very passionate and included a deep BBBJ. The best part was that after a while, she started kissing me with lots an lots of tongue. Either she was so engrossed that she dropped her no-DFK bar with me or she played a nice trick by making me crave for her DFK. Whatever, I burst into one of the best orgasms I have ever had with our lips passionately locked and me holding her both hands down beneath the pillows.

After some cuddle time, session #2 was a long and deep BBBJ with lots of ball licking. I believe CIM was an option for me. But I finished during a hand job as I sucked her awesome breasts.

There were more cuddles. And then I ended up massaging her for a very long time. There is something sexy about having a beautiful girl lying on top of you, pressing her breasts against your body, and giving out soft moans as you massage her back deeply. We both were literally in a half-daze as we lost track of time.

She initially booked for an hour at 180 Euros (not sure if this is a bit on the high side), but she ended up being with me for almost 2.5 hours. I paid her 200 E as I was very very satisfied.

Tomorrow, I have a date with Adele Blueberry (as you might have figured out, I am a breasts guy). My list includes Patricia Menezes, Catia Morais, Vera Santos, and Julia Nobriega based on who responds. (I was very attracted to Sara Valente at first, but Escortprivada confirmed by email that she now has nipple piercings which is big no for me unfortunately).

Thanks for the very informative and thorough review of Rita Fuzeiro. We really needed a review of her on this board from an English speaker to know how she does with tourists. I have always thought she was one of the prettiest girls on apartadox based on her pictures. The gp-[URL]pt.net[/URL] board is kind of a "bro board" in that the ladies do not fund the board through advertising and do not participate in their review threads, nor is there any peer pressure among the guys for a score to be raised for a popular lady. For boards that are not "bro boards", you usually see ladies with all 8's, 9's and 10's out of 10. But with a board like gp-[URL]pt.net[/URL], you will see a lady like Rita having mostly all great scores, but they get rather irritated with the existence of an occasional 5 out of 10, particularly from a customer they did not really like, so they may not have given maximum effort. It sounds like Rita is someone who gives a fantastic session if the customer treats her well and if she likes him. She is a hard working lady who tours many cities in Portugal. The 180 per hour euro outcall rate is what is listed on gp-[URL]pt.net[/URL] for her one outcall review. Most of the reviews are for her much less expensive 30 minute incall session.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-RitaFuzeiro-3746.html[/URL]

Your list looks fantastic and we really look forward to your reviews, particularly of the EscortPrivada ladies who have no reviews on this board yet. Based on prior reviews, Patricia Menezes obviously appears to be a certain GFE, and it will be great to know if Cátia Morais really is that busty.

Not saying that this lady Eva Sanchez would be any better than anyone on your list, but if something falls through with a reservation, keep her in mind. She has previous reviews as doing outcall for English speakers and providing good service. She is obviously busty, although enhanced.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-EvaSanchez-2320.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Portucol;2273577]My first time in Lisbon / Portugal. Thanks to the wealth of knowledge in this forum, I hit the ground running.

I was to land at noon today and was looking forward to an evening of fun. But due to a mess up with my connections (never flying emirates again), it was 10 pm by the time I checked into my hotel. Frustrated that I had lost the evening, I made a desperate attempt to contact Rita at 11 pm. Surprisingly, she responded right away and was ready to come in that late. After a few back and forth in whatsapp, it was 1 am when she came to my hotel. This delay was partly because of my inexperience and partly due to miscommunication in English. For instance, her menu was not listed both in her apartadox page and in her portalprivada page. So I tried roundabout ways of finding this out, by mentioning her reviews here and in gp-pt. (There are countries where girls do not explicitly discuss menus over phone.) She got very defensive about how some of the things in her reviews are not true etc etc. Figuring that whatsapp was not working out, I called her. She was very comfortable directly discussing her menu on the phone (lesson learnt). Essentially, everything is YMMV based on the hygiene of the guy. I liked her frankness and was pretty sure things were going to work out between us..[/QUOTE]

Hey,

Was wondering if anyone can point me to a girl in Lissabon that they know do good deepthroat / face fuck?

This girl "Iza" claimed to do it upon contact ([URL]http://www.girl-directory.com/escortnet/iza-iza[/URL]). But can't find any review about it.

Do you guys got any other tip of girls who provide this service?

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=FriMan;2274055]This girl "Iza" claimed to do it upon contact ([URL]http://www.girl-directory.com/escortnet/iza-iza[/URL]). But can't find any review about it.

Was wondering if anyone can point me to a girl in Lissabon that they know do good deepthroat / face fuck?

[/QUOTE]Her reviews on the Portuguese board are not many and not exactly brilliant. The highest was a 7.

But I'm sure if you try a few of those mentioned here in ISG (and most of them do DT) and specifically ask them about what they're willing to provide, that'll be no problem.

Kama is very kind. The lady you linked to, Iza, did receive a 7 out of 10, but also received two much lower scores with complaints that she did not deliver what was promised.

This lady, Ana, may be more to your liking, based on the reviews (I have not seen her).

She changes her hair color often, and uses a place she shares with other girls. But Ana's reviews confirm that she does strenuous deep-throating as indicated in her ads. Further, her Massage Republic ad includes submissive, which is usually something you look for in a provider who is good at face fucking.

Ana's reviews on the local board are very good, with mostly all 8's and 9's out of ten, with one 6 out of ten where the reviewer had no real complaints. She is described as likely being in her early 20's, slim body, very small breasts, so the pics appear accurate.

[URL]https://massagerepublic.com/female-escorts-in-lisbon/ana-white-portuguese[/URL]

[URL]http://www.docemassagem.com/massagista_ana_entrecampos_14/[/URL]

Massage Republic is not an inexpensive advertising venue, so Ana must have some ambition and dedication.

The local board does not really have a face-fucking line in the reviews, so I am just using logic and assumptions in thinking that Ana is your best bet.

[QUOTE=FriMan;2274055]Hey,

Was wondering if anyone can point me to a girl in Lissabon that they know do good deepthroat / face fuck?

This girl "Iza" claimed to do it upon contact ([URL]http://www.girl-directory.com/escortnet/iza-iza[/URL]). But can't find any review about it.

Do you guys got any other tip of girls who provide this service?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2274234]Her reviews on the Portuguese board are not many and not exactly brilliant. The highest was a 7.

But I'm sure if you try a few of those mentioned here in ISG (and most of them do DT) and specifically ask them about what they're willing to provide, that'll be no problem.[/QUOTE]Fair enough, yes was hard finding any decent info. Preferably they should be rather close to the Bairro alto area. I tried mail the Russian mentioned before but no luck. Guess I'll have to text or call once there.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2274277]Kama is very kind. The lady you linked to, Iza, did receive a 7 out of 10, but also received two much lower scores with complaints that she did not deliver what was promised.

This lady, Ana, may be more to your liking, based on the reviews (I have not seen her).

She changes her hair color often, and uses a place she shares with other girls. But Ana's reviews confirm that she does strenuous deep-throating as indicated in her ads. Further, her Massage Republic ad includes submissive, which is usually something you look for in a provider who is good at face fucking.

Ana's reviews on the local board are very good, with mostly all 8's and 9's out of ten, with one 6 out of ten where the reviewer had no real complaints. She is described as likely being in her early 20's, slim body, very small breasts, so the pics appear accurate.t.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info!

Did a brief check and unfortunately she seems to be off the whatsapp grid since mid December.

Do you guys usually just text, or do you call?

[QUOTE=FriMan;2274560]Thanks for the info!

Did a brief check and unfortunately she seems to be off the whatsapp grid since mid December.

Do you guys usually just text, or do you call?[/QUOTE]That is unfortunate. You can always try translating a regular SMS text and sending that to her, or register and send her a private message via Massage Republic's messaging feature. Sometimes the ladies reply to your email that you list when sending a message on a platform such as Massage Republic, and that makes sending translated messages easier. Of course you can always call and see if she speaks English. Kind of awkward, though, if you need to speak slowly and loudly so she can understand, and you are walking down the sidewalk saying "Face Fucking, do you like that?

Anyone ever notice that fewer independents in Portugal use email in comparison to the United Kingdom and North America, which have a number of "email only" escorts?

[QUOTE=Emeli;2265988]Dear Mongerer88 and dear all,

Is is very disappointing that Lila is not more working. She is beautiful and she has a perfect body (apart for the breast). Her attitude for sex was almost perfect, furthermore is BBJ is one of the best I had and I tried many many girls during these years. I travel in Lisbon 2 or 3 time for year and I love black girls. I continuously check the local guide on internet in Portuguese but seems that there are not black girls with an high score working now. Anyone have suggestions in this respect?[/QUOTE]Great news, Lila's ad is active again.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-Lila-3304.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2274677]That is unfortunate. You can always try translating a regular SMS text and sending that to her, or register and send her a private message via Massage Republic's messaging feature. Sometimes the ladies reply to your email that you list when sending a message on a platform such as Massage Republic, and that makes sending translated messages easier. Of course you can always call and see if she speaks English. Kind of awkward, though, if you need to speak slowly and loudly so she can understand, and you are walking down the sidewalk saying "Face Fucking, do you like that?

Anyone ever notice that fewer independents in Portugal use email in comparison to the United Kingdom and North America, which have a number of "email only" escorts?[/QUOTE]Tried your tricks and awaiting to see if I get any answer.

Also contacted Nita who has been mentioned here before. Claims to be able to do facefucking (sent her a GIF on whatsapp, said "if its not too long" So I guess that could be a backup option.