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[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]

If you want good prices, the 141's and the yellow board signs in Mong Kok are your best bet.

SEAJ[/QUOTE]It's kind of prophetic to read this post as the first (most recent) post this evening. I hadn't read the HK thread for a few days, and coincidentally I had decided this afternoon that I would TOFTT (well, actually a FEW) and try out the 141 scene. Well, here I am to post the first of my results and lo and behold SEAJ is espousing about the 141s. Good timing!

Before I continue, I must digress and COMPLETELY agree that paying the going rate HERE in HK for a Flipper or Thai girl is retarded. And I mean that offensively. For what some of these girls are asking (and apparently getting) I could fly to PI and back, AND have the girl of my choosing for a week. It's a bit ridiculous, to be honest. Anyway, having said that, I do enjoy the occasional romp with a Filipina and I imagine many expats feel the same way and are too lazy or busy (as am I) to actually travel to PI. Nuff said.

Back to the 141s. I'm no stranger to hobbying, nor to this forum, though I tend to lurk a LOT more than I post. I also don't typically experience the type of volume that is useful to fellow hobbyists. When I find a girl I like, I stick with her, sometimes for a LLOONNGG time. I've even been known to import girls from other continents. It's all about the GFE for me.

However, I currently have some extra time on my hands, and have been curious to test out the experiences of many on the forum who have had 'bait and switch' encounters with the 141 girls. I'm obviously more interested in the 'as advertised' experience as that's the ultimate goal for all of us.

My first provider was Kitty, a girl located in Central who is advertised on the 141 site. I was drawn to her photo primarily, and her location secondarily, as she is ridiculously close to where I am currently staying. She looked to be very petite, which I really like, and as attractive as a girl could be when her eyes are blurred out in her photos. Anyway, I was looking forward to it. The skeptic in me toned down my enthusiasm quite a bit as I am fairly confident that I will find that most of these girls are not as advertised. I'll try to remain impartial for now.

I arrived at the location for Kitty, and it was very easy to find her flat. She even had 'her' photos on the door. When Kitty answered my knock and opened the door, it was immediately obvious to me that this girl was not the girl in the photos. However, she wasn't ugly or totally un-doable. In fact, there was just enough similarity to where I thought that maybe the photos WERE hers but many years ago before she had kids, had 1000 guys jumping up and down on her, or whatever. Also, the room was quite nice. In a shit building to be sure, but the room itself was clean and modern and inviting with a soft pink light setting a pretty good mood. Now, it is at this moment that an interesting thing happens, and I've read many other posts from other mongers echoing what I am about to say. *I decided to enter her room anyway knowing this wasn't the girl advertised.*

I figured, as most of the others have as well, 'What the hell, I'm already here, she's fuckable, she's Chinese which I haven't experienced enough of (ironically) living here in Hong Kong, and apparently she's cheap.'. Errrr, inexpensive, at 380HK for what I think I was told was an hour. More on that later.

She immediately began taking off my clothes and hers. I noticed she was a bit flabby around the midsection, and she had a bush the size of Don King's fro! Seriously, I don't think I've ever seen this much hair down there on a girl before. Hand in hand with this, she had hairy nipples, which I really don't like. However, again, she wasn't UNattractive. Just different than my normal caliber of girl. We proceeded to shower with zero action in the shower other than getting clean.

Once out of the shower she had me lay face up on the bed, and she proceeded to give me a good licking (literally), and some fairly satisfying ball sucking. My hopes were now aroused, as was my staff, and I anticipated a thorough BBBJ with her using that wicked tongue. Alas, I was quickly disappointed as she broke out the cover and proceeded to give a standard CBJ. As a personal observation, NOT speaking the local language SUCKS, and not in a good way. I'm fluent in Spanish and I'm 100% certain my experiences in Mexico, Central and Latin America are 100% better because of it. Protest as I did, the CBJ continued until she replaced the condom (? ), and then lay on her back for us to proceed in mish, which we did for a few minutes.

We tried a few different positions, and each time I tried to get a little FK going. Not even DFK mind you but just FK, but she wanted nothing to do with it and I was rejected each time. We ultimately ended up in doggie where I know I can pop as I was ready to end this section of the test and move on to something else (massage, round two, ? ) as only about 25 minutes had transpired.

To my *slight* surprise, she took my pop as the finale for the night, and she hopped in the shower. When I asked about extras (massage), or time (thought I had an hour), she responded in Cantonese (or maybe even Mandarin), which I obviously don't understand. However, the gist of the conversation was that we were done. This is where the language barrier is really to the girls' advantage, and where I hate being the gweilo. Man, sometimes I miss my latinas! To be fair, perhaps it was 'rush hour' for her, and she knew she could make more money if I was out of there quickly. I did see other guys mulling around outside on the camera monitor. Perhaps if the timing was different, or if MY timing was different, I would have received a full hour, I have no idea. By the way, there are two other girls in this same hallway, so I may check out that location again.

The damage for the session was 380HK, as advertised, but for about 30 minutes. All in all, I had a decent time, had sex with a young, fair Chinese girl who was a decent actress, and blew my nut for about $50US. I can't complain about that, especially in comparison to the USA, where Big Brother and LE reign supreme. Pendejos. But, I guess it is a bit expensive compared to experiences I have had in, for example, 37D. Full massage, BBBJCIM and other extras make the 37D experience a bit better, but in that case I've not. In 4 visits. Ever seen a girl there that ranks more than a 6.5 in my book so I guess YMMV as they say.

My main mission tomorrow is to visit another provider, this time in North Point. I hope that by avoiding the tourist trap areas like TST, I'll be more likely to find an 'as advertised' girl, or find that diamond in the rough. I'll report back after that experience as well.

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[QUOTE=Ralph Kramden]I did a spot check of the 141 site Tai Po page after reading FF's excellent report. There is an example of what can be had for 350 (Name BorBor at the bottom of the page). Note the humongous real tits and no age listed with the vital statistics. I would get my shagging ass over there real quick if I were in HK.[/QUOTE]RK,

Do you have any reason to believe the photo of the girl BorBor is legit? Or are you merely suggesting?

I am planning for short weekend break in HK.
Objective: sex and shopping.

1. Could you recommend me a decent hotel for both above - budget USD 100 per day thereabouts.

2. Sex: Plan to get room delivery service - including in room massage service with extras.

3. Planning to get a Rolex from an authorised dealer.

Appreciate advice to fulfil the above.

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]

If you want good prices, the 141's and the yellow board signs in Mong Kok are your best bet.

SEAJ[/QUOTE]

It's kind of prophetic to read this post as the first (most recent) post this evening. I hadn't read the HK thread for a few days, and coincidentally I had decided this afternoon that I would TOFTT (well, actually a FEW) and try out the 141 scene. Well, here I am to post the first of my results and lo and behold SEAJ is espousing about the 141s. Good timing!

Before I continue, I must digress and COMPLETELY agree that paying the going rate HERE in HK for a Flipper or Thai girl is retarded. And I mean that offensively. For what some of these girls are asking (and apparently getting) I could fly to PI and back, AND have the girl of my choosing for a week. It's a bit ridiculous, to be honest. Anyway, having said that, I do enjoy the occasional romp with a Filipina and I imagine many expats feel the same way and are too lazy or busy (as am I) to actually travel to PI. Nuff said.

Back to the 141s. I'm no stranger to hobbying, nor to this forum, though I tend to lurk a LOT more than I post. I also don't typically experience the type of volume that is useful to fellow hobbyists. When I find a girl I like, I stick with her, sometimes for a LLOONNGG time. I've even been known to import girls from other continents. It's all about the GFE for me.

However, I currently have some extra time on my hands, and have been curious to test out the experiences of many on the forum who have had 'bait and switch' encounters with the 141 girls. I'm obviously more interested in the 'as advertised' experience as that's the ultimate goal for all of us.

My first provider was Kitty, a girl located in Central who is advertised on the 141 site. I was drawn to her photo primarily, and her location secondarily, as she is ridiculously close to where I am currently staying. She looked to be very petite, which I really like, and as attractive as a girl could be when her eyes are blurred out in her photos. Anyway, I was looking forward to it. The skeptic in me toned down my enthusiasm quite a bit as I am fairly confident that I will find that most of these girls are not as advertised. I'll try to remain impartial for now.

I arrived at the location for Kitty, and it was very easy to find her flat. She even had 'her' photos on the door. When Kitty answered my knock and opened the door, it was immediately obvious to me that this girl was not the girl in the photos. However, she wasn't ugly or totally un-doable. In fact, there was just enough similarity to where I thought that maybe the photos WERE hers but many years ago before she had kids, had 1000 guys jumping up and down on her, or whatever. Also, the room was quite nice. In a shit building to be sure, but the room itself was clean and modern and inviting with a soft pink light setting a pretty good mood. Now, it is at this moment that an interesting thing happens, and I've read many other posts from other mongers echoing what I am about to say. *I decided to enter her room anyway knowing this wasn't the girl advertised.*

I figured, as most of the others have as well, 'What the hell, I'm already here, she's fuckable, she's Chinese which I haven't experienced enough of (ironically) living here in Hong Kong, and apparently she's cheap.' - errrr, inexpensive, at 380HK for what I think I was told was an hour. More on that later.

She immediately began taking off my clothes and hers. I noticed she was a bit flabby around the midsection, and she had a bush the size of Don King's fro! Seriously, I don't think I've ever seen this much hair down there on a girl before. Hand in hand with this, she had hairy nipples, which I really don't like. However, again, she wasn't UNattractive - just different than my normal caliber of girl. We proceeded to shower with zero action in the shower other than getting clean.

Once out of the shower she had me lay face up on the bed, and she proceeded to give me a good licking (literally), and some fairly satisfying ball sucking. My hopes were now aroused, as was my staff, and I anticipated a thorough BBBJ with her using that wicked tongue. Alas, I was quickly disappointed as she broke out the cover and proceeded to give a standard CBJ. As a personal observation, NOT speaking the local language SUCKS, and not in a good way. I'm fluent in Spanish and I'm 100% certain my experiences in Mexico, Central and Latin America are 100% better because of it. Protest as I did, the CBJ continued until she replaced the condom (?), and then lay on her back for us to proceed in mish, which we did for a few minutes.

We tried a few different positions, and each time I tried to get a little FK going. Not even DFK mind you but just FK, but she wanted nothing to do with it and I was rejected each time. We ultimately ended up in doggie where I know I can pop as I was ready to end this section of the test and move on to something else (massage, round two, ???) as only about 25 minutes had transpired.

To my *slight* surprise, she took my pop as the finale for the night, and she hopped in the shower. When I asked about extras (massage), or time (thought I had an hour), she responded in Cantonese (or maybe even Mandarin), which I obviously don't understand. However, the gist of the conversation was that we were done. This is where the language barrier is really to the girls' advantage, and where I hate being the gweilo. Man, sometimes I miss my latinas! To be fair, perhaps it was 'rush hour' for her, and she knew she could make more money if I was out of there quickly. I did see other guys mulling around outside on the camera monitor. Perhaps if the timing was different, or if MY timing was different, I would have received a full hour, I have no idea. By the way, there are two other girls in this same hallway, so I may check out that location again.

The damage for the session was 380HK, as advertised, but for about 30 minutes. All in all, I had a decent time, had sex with a young, fair Chinese girl who was a decent actress, and blew my nut for about $50US. I can't complain about that, especially in comparison to the U.S., where Big Brother and LE reign supreme. Pendejos. But, I guess it is a bit expensive compared to experiences I have had in, for example, 37D. Full massage, BBBJCIM and other extras make the 37D experience a bit better, but in that case I've not - in 4 visits - ever seen a girl there that ranks more than a 6.5 in my book so I guess YMMV as they say.

My main mission tomorrow is to visit another provider, this time in North Point. I hope that by avoiding the tourist trap areas like TST, I'll be more likely to find an 'as advertised' girl, or find that diamond in the rough. I'll report back after that experience as well.

[QUOTE=MichaelTheOne]I am planning for short weekend break in HK.
Objective: sex and shopping.

1. Could you recommend me a decent hotel for both above - budget USD 100 per day thereabouts.

2. Sex: Plan to get room delivery service - including in room massage service with extras.

3. Planning to get a Rolex from an authorised dealer.

Appreciate advice to fulfil the above.[/QUOTE]

MTO, I'd look at either Wanchai or Kowloon (TST area) to meet your objective. Not sure of hotel prices currently, but you'll find plenty on the internet, and there is ample shopping and sex in both areas.

Personally, I've never really liked the Kowloon / TST side of HK as I feel everyone views ME as a tourist, which I am not, and they charge me the 'tourist tax' accordingly. Hell, for all I know, I pay a 'gweilo tax' everywhere I go in HK. On the TST side though, the touts hawking all manner of wares bug the shit out of me. No, I don't want a blouse for a man! (Say that with an Indian accent and it's really pretty funny.)

Enjoy your stay!

Guys,

just a quick question before my trip to HK next week.

Am I right in thinking that Viagra and Cialis is still freely available in HK? Nearest outlet to Wanchai?

Any idea of cost?

Tks a lot for any and all replies!

PR

[QUOTE=El Fuego]It's kind of prophetic to read this post as the first (most recent) post this evening. I hadn't read the HK thread for a few days, and coincidentally I had decided this afternoon that I would TOFTT (well, actually a FEW) and try out the 141 scene. Well, here I am to post the first of my results and lo and behold SEAJ is espousing about the 141s. Good timing!

Before I continue, I must digress and COMPLETELY agree that paying the going rate HERE in HK for a Flipper or Thai girl is retarded. And I mean that offensively. For what some of these girls are asking (and apparently getting) I could fly to PI and back, AND have the girl of my choosing for a week. It's a bit ridiculous, to be honest. Anyway, having said that, I do enjoy the occasional romp with a Filipina and I imagine many expats feel the same way and are too lazy or busy (as am I) to actually travel to PI. Nuff said.

Back to the 141s. I'm no stranger to hobbying, nor to this forum, though I tend to lurk a LOT more than I post. I also don't typically experience the type of volume that is useful to fellow hobbyists. When I find a girl I like, I stick with her, sometimes for a LLOONNGG time. I've even been known to import girls from other continents. It's all about the GFE for me.

However, I currently have some extra time on my hands, and have been curious to test out the experiences of many on the forum who have had 'bait and switch' encounters with the 141 girls. I'm obviously more interested in the 'as advertised' experience as that's the ultimate goal for all of us.

My first provider was Kitty, a girl located in Central who is advertised on the 141 site. I was drawn to her photo primarily, and her location secondarily, as she is ridiculously close to where I am currently staying. She looked to be very petite, which I really like, and as attractive as a girl could be when her eyes are blurred out in her photos. Anyway, I was looking forward to it. The skeptic in me toned down my enthusiasm quite a bit as I am fairly confident that I will find that most of these girls are not as advertised. I'll try to remain impartial for now.

I arrived at the location for Kitty, and it was very easy to find her flat. She even had 'her' photos on the door. When Kitty answered my knock and opened the door, it was immediately obvious to me that this girl was not the girl in the photos. However, she wasn't ugly or totally un-doable. In fact, there was just enough similarity to where I thought that maybe the photos WERE hers but many years ago before she had kids, had 1000 guys jumping up and down on her, or whatever. Also, the room was quite nice. In a shit building to be sure, but the room itself was clean and modern and inviting with a soft pink light setting a pretty good mood. Now, it is at this moment that an interesting thing happens, and I've read many other posts from other mongers echoing what I am about to say. *I decided to enter her room anyway knowing this wasn't the girl advertised.*

I figured, as most of the others have as well, 'What the hell, I'm already here, she's fuckable, she's Chinese which I haven't experienced enough of (ironically) living here in Hong Kong, and apparently she's cheap.' - errrr, inexpensive, at 380HK for what I think I was told was an hour. More on that later.

She immediately began taking off my clothes and hers. I noticed she was a bit flabby around the midsection, and she had a bush the size of Don King's fro! Seriously, I don't think I've ever seen this much hair down there on a girl before. Hand in hand with this, she had hairy nipples, which I really don't like. However, again, she wasn't UNattractive - just different than my normal caliber of girl. We proceeded to shower with zero action in the shower other than getting clean.

Once out of the shower she had me lay face up on the bed, and she proceeded to give me a good licking (literally), and some fairly satisfying ball sucking. My hopes were now aroused, as was my staff, and I anticipated a thorough BBBJ with her using that wicked tongue. Alas, I was quickly disappointed as she broke out the cover and proceeded to give a standard CBJ. As a personal observation, NOT speaking the local language SUCKS, and not in a good way. I'm fluent in Spanish and I'm 100% certain my experiences in Mexico, Central and Latin America are 100% better because of it. Protest as I did, the CBJ continued until she replaced the condom (?), and then lay on her back for us to proceed in mish, which we did for a few minutes.

We tried a few different positions, and each time I tried to get a little FK going. Not even DFK mind you but just FK, but she wanted nothing to do with it and I was rejected each time. We ultimately ended up in doggie where I know I can pop as I was ready to end this section of the test and move on to something else (massage, round two, ???) as only about 25 minutes had transpired.

To my *slight* surprise, she took my pop as the finale for the night, and she hopped in the shower. When I asked about extras (massage), or time (thought I had an hour), she responded in Cantonese (or maybe even Mandarin), which I obviously don't understand. However, the gist of the conversation was that we were done. This is where the language barrier is really to the girls' advantage, and where I hate being the gweilo. Man, sometimes I miss my latinas! To be fair, perhaps it was 'rush hour' for her, and she knew she could make more money if I was out of there quickly. I did see other guys mulling around outside on the camera monitor. Perhaps if the timing was different, or if MY timing was different, I would have received a full hour, I have no idea. By the way, there are two other girls in this same hallway, so I may check out that location again.

The damage for the session was 380HK, as advertised, but for about 30 minutes. All in all, I had a decent time, had sex with a young, fair Chinese girl who was a decent actress, and blew my nut for about $50US. I can't complain about that, especially in comparison to the U.S., where Big Brother and LE reign supreme. Pendejos. But, I guess it is a bit expensive compared to experiences I have had in, for example, 37D. Full massage, BBBJCIM and other extras make the 37D experience a bit better, but in that case I've not - in 4 visits - ever seen a girl there that ranks more than a 6.5 in my book so I guess YMMV as they say.

My main mission tomorrow is to visit another provider, this time in North Point. I hope that by avoiding the tourist trap areas like TST, I'll be more likely to find an 'as advertised' girl, or find that diamond in the rough. I'll report back after that experience as well.[/QUOTE]

IMHO, don't waste your time at the 141s in Central or North Point as they are mostly old pros. Better to try the Fuji building in Wanchai or go to TST or Causeway Bay cause at least if you don't like your first choice the buildings there have multiple providers from you to choose from. And as other posters have said, it is not a big deal if the gal who opens the door is not to you liking and you can move on to the next one.

[QUOTE=El Fuego]

Before I continue, I must digress and COMPLETELY agree that paying the going rate HERE in HK for a Flipper or Thai girl is retarded. And I mean that offensively. For what some of these girls are asking (and apparently getting) I could fly to PI and back, AND have the girl of my choosing for a week. It's a bit ridiculous, to be honest. Anyway, having said that, I do enjoy the occasional romp with a Filipina and I imagine many expats feel the same way and are too lazy or busy (as am I) to actually travel to PI. Nuff said.

I figured, as most of the others have as well, 'What the hell, I'm already here, she's fuckable, she's Chinese which I haven't experienced enough of (ironically) living here in Hong Kong, and apparently she's cheap.' - errrr, inexpensive, at 380HK for what I think I was told was an hour. More on that later....

We ultimately ended up in doggie where I know I can pop as I was ready to end this section of the test and move on to something else (massage, round two, ???) as only about 25 minutes had transpired...

To my *slight* surprise, she took my pop as the finale for the night, and she hopped in the shower. When I asked about extras (massage), or time (thought I had an hour), she responded in Cantonese (or maybe even Mandarin), which I obviously don't understand. However, the gist of the conversation was that we were done. This is where the language barrier is really to the girls' advantage, and where I hate being the gweilo. Man, sometimes I miss my latinas! ....

The damage for the session was 380HK, as advertised, but for about 30 minutes. [/QUOTE]

I have a few things to add in regards to your post. The first regarding flippers. Yes those that are working in Wan Chai, who are not maids, will make you pay more for than you would in the philippines but as someone who lives here I sometimes like getting service in English and do not always have time to fly down to the philippines for a shag I partake. Yes, you end up paying 4,200 to 6,000 pesos for a flipper in Wan Chai (HK$800 - HK$1,000) but if you are going after the nice tail on P. Burgos in Manila you are paying usually around 3,000 pesos. Yes, I realize Burgos is expensive for the philippines but there are some of the better looking girls there who are good in English. What surprises me is how many sorry looking flippers can get business in Wan Chai, but then there are always fresh off the boat businessmen in town. If you want cheaper flippinas then maids are usually free to $500 or you can find flippers in the Jordan to Mong Kok area for $400.

I have done the same flippinas in Hong Kong and Manila and when they are here I pay them HK prices and when they are in Manila they get Manila prices. They have expenses to cover when they are coming over here to be expats just like the rest of us expats who work in other industries.

As for 141's your timing is about right. Generally, unless they are not busy, they are simply oneshot places and as soon as you are finished you leave. You can have up to 45-60 minutes but once the deed is done you shower up and go. I do not think the girl you visited cheated you on time because you were a gweilo but rather acted the way one would expect her too. If you want more time in a 141 don't let the girl rush you into popping.

Apologies for my ignorance - but can someone tell me the history and rationale for calling our sport "mongering", and us as "mongers"? No I'm not an English major, just curioius.

Thanks !

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Question - would you got to Tijuana to specifically partake of an American Gal, a Russian or a European? So why go to Hong Kong to do a Filipina or Thai. SEAJ[/QUOTE]Important information for board members:

Starting July 1st 2009, Russian passport holders are allowed to enter Hong Kong visa free, which should increase high-quality supply to the venues in Hong Kong, since they wouldn't need to go through visa application process. If I understand correctly from the chat today - visa free period is extended up to 30 days.

[QUOTE=Bob Builder]IMHO, don't waste your time at the 141s in Central or North Point as they are mostly old pros. Better to try the Fuji building in Wanchai or go to TST or Causeway Bay cause at least if you don't like your first choice the buildings there have multiple providers from you to choose from. And as other posters have said, it is not a big deal if the gal who opens the door is not to you liking and you can move on to the next one.[/QUOTE]

Good advice, though I read it after I visited two more 141 locations today. And to be honest, my goal is to explore the 141s to assess the validity of the girls versus the photos, and not so much to bang everything that moves as many times as possible. I live here and this is an experiment I am undertaking for the next few days as I have some time on my hands. Having said that, a tourist on a mission would be wise to heed your advice, and go to where the most fish are, so to speak. Also, I don't so much get the impression that these girls are "old pros", but rather that the 'bait and switch' tactic is standard operating procedure.

Today I went looking for two specific girls appearing on the ***141 site, Annie (Hotel Reservation) and Shan Shan (in call), both located in North Point. My hope (and logic) is that the girls outside the 'touristy' areas might be more legit, as I (perhaps incorrectly?) assume these girls are marketed more for locals in this area rather than gweilos or tourists, but what do I know.

To visit Annie, I had to call the phone number listed as she is classified as a 'Hotel Reservation' girl. This is where you call, and if you are lucky enough to speak to someone in English, they tell you the name of the hotel. Once you find and enter the hotel, you call again and they tell you the number of the room. Today I visited 'Annie' at the Newport Inn in North Point, room #28XX. Two girls were in the room, the one who answered the door and another sitting at a small table, and neither was even remotely similar to the photo on the web site. When I asked for Annie one of the girls told me yes she was Annie. Whatever. I left and called the phone number again saying that I wanted Annie, just to see what the response would be. The girl on the other end of the line tried to tell me that one of the girls in the room WAS the girl in the photos. NOT. I left immediately.

I then walked to the location of Shan Shan. It was a bit confusing as to where her flat was located as there were no official markings, but I figured it out once I saw the magic marker on the wall designating the flat letter and number. After knocking, the door was opened and once again, a girl that was absolutely not the girl in the photo answered the door. And once again, the routine was the same with her trying to tell me that yes, she was that girl, when even a semi-blind man could tell she wasn't as the photo was pasted on the door. Whatever. I left immediately again as I didn't really NEED the pop, and to be honest, the girls in the photos WOULD have done it for me but the girls who answered the doors did not.

So, in a nutshell, I'm calling BULLSHIT on the 141 photos. The scene itself is definitely legit. If you visit the location there is almost sure to be one or more girls there. However, the level of quality you can expect is anyone's guess. Personally, I think these sites would be better served by NOT posting fraudulent photos, but instead just advertising the location and perhaps the types of services offered at that location. I might be more inclined to session with whomever answers the door if I don't already have a pre-conceived notion of what to expect. Most of the girls in the photos are HOT, and most of the girls who answer the doors are NOT. This is an instant let-down, and bad for business IMHO.

Some of you forum or HK veterans might call BS on ME, based on your past experiences, which is fine! Plus, I realize I sampled less than .01% of what is available before reaching my conclusion. What I really want to know is, has anyone ever visited a 141 site to hook up with a hottie and actually had that hottie answer the door? If so, where and when? Do some 141 locations have a better rep for actual girl vs photo than others? What's the real scoop?

As far as I'm concerned, when I NEED a pop I'm going with BB's advice above from now on, if I do decide to visit a 141 location. Making a location decision based on the photo of the girl is a waste of time.

[QUOTE=Bob Builder]IMHO, don't waste your time at the 141s in Central or North Point as they are mostly old pros. Better to try the Fuji building in Wanchai or go to TST or Causeway Bay cause at least if you don't like your first choice the buildings there have multiple providers from you to choose from. And as other posters have said, it is not a big deal if the gal who opens the door is not to you liking and you can move on to the next one.[/QUOTE]

Don't see the Fuji building listed on the 141 or 161 sites, can you advise as to location?

Also, on the 141 site some of the girls have 'Serve for PD' listed under "Others" (services). What does this mean?

[QUOTE=Rick Hunter]What surprises me is how many sorry looking flippers can get business in Wan Chai, but then there are always fresh off the boat businessmen in town.[/QUOTE]

Ha ha! Isn't that the truth. I've often wondered if they leave PI BECAUSE they are not the hottest girls there. At least here, they're *somewhat* differentiated. At home they're the regular, ugly betty's as it were. The hot girls in PI always have action, at a premium as you've highlighted, and there's no reason for them to leave.

[QUOTE=Rick Hunter]If you want cheaper flippinas then maids are usually free to $500 or you can find flippers in the Jordan to Mong Kok area for $400..[/QUOTE]

As for lesser-priced flippers in the Jordan and Mong Kok area, this is almost comical. Most of these girls are the same girls from Wanchai / Central who go to Jordan / MK when it's slow on the island. Then, suddenly, they have affordable rates. Classic.

[QUOTE=El Fuego]

Some of you forum or HK veterans might call BS on ME, based on your past experiences, which is fine! Plus, I realize I sampled less than .01% of what is available before reaching my conclusion. What I really want to know is, has anyone ever visited a 141 site to hook up with a hottie and actually had that hottie answer the door? If so, where and when? Do some 141 locations have a better rep for actual girl vs photo than others? What's the real scoop?

As far as I'm concerned, when I NEED a pop I'm going with BB's advice above from now on, if I do decide to visit a 141 location. Making a location decision based on the photo of the girl is a waste of time.[/QUOTE]

The photos are mostly real. What you've experienced is classic bait-and-switch which occurs often with the "Hotel Reservation" girls. These girls don't operate out of a fixed location.

If you do the non-Hotel Reservation girls, those that list an address, the photos are reliably accurate. The only complaints from veterans is that the photos could be a few years old.

You should do what locals do. And that is, shop for 141s in-person. Don't be lazy. Don't just sit at home thinking you can click a few clicks to find a hottie. Most providers don't advertise. You should use the 141 website as merely a tool to find locations of 141 clusters. At these clusters, go ring the doorbells randomly and see who answers. You might find that searching is part of the adventure when mongering in Hong Kong.

[QUOTE=El Fuego]Don't see the Fuji building listed on the 141 or 161 sites, can you advise as to location?

Also, on the 141 site some of the girls have 'Serve for PD' listed under "Others" (services). What does this mean?[/QUOTE]

Its about a block down from the Novatel Hotel in the direction of Causeway Bay. Not that I want to waste too much time writing about this stuff but quickly. Remoteness of location does not guarantee better quality or service. Remoter areas such as Kwun Tong, Tsuen Wan, North Point on the MTR line normally have lower quality. NT locations have younger mainlanders. Most of the better looking providers, not necessarily better service will be in Causeway Bay, TST, Mong Kok. They make more money as these are more accessible locations and their rent is higher. Most Mong Kok locations are not really 141s but brothels.

I was being kind by saying old pros, what I actually meant was "old slappers". If you want a young hot body from the mainland, go to the hotel jobs in TST, Jordan and Mong Kok or a brothel in Mong Kok.

Trusting the photos is a waste of time as the girls change all the time and the operators are not going to pay the additional cost of getting the photographer from the website to take pics of the new gal who may be there for only a few days. I have been in one of the places when the photos were being taken.

Read the forums on the 141 websites as this may help you with who provides good service. Punters write reviews on the individual gals there but a lot of them may be in Chinese.