Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1593599] I don't believe it. It defies reason, logic and business sense.[/QUOTE]Isn't that the case with most crime? BNP having beeen the banker of criminal regimes now pay a record fine and more banks are to follow that route. Yet when they committed those criminal acts, the thought of being caught never seems to have occurred to them.

This has actually been researched: most criminals are vain and think themselves to be geniuses. They think they are of course much better than the police and they will never get caught. Hence, in their twisted minds it makes perfect business sense to being a criminal.

So it is the risk of being caught that determines whether a criminal act is done or not (excluding crimes of passion or revenge, of course): "buying protection" may lower this perceived chance of being caught sufficiently to make criminal acts worthwhile. Perfectly sensible business, really!

[quote=nattybumpo;1593599]**** girls in ch? i don't believe it. it defies reason, logic and business sense. furthermore, it is one of those slanderous rumors that can never be 100% disproved.[/quote]natty,

as syzygies points out it is common knowledge that some of the girls are in the 14 - 15 age range, and they look it, even after factoring in the youthful thai female appearance. my first night there i was sitting in the back, where the alternate shift of girls wait to go on stage, trying to act suave and debonair. :cool: a person who appeared to be directing the girls and mamasans asked me who i liked. i said all of them, which was mostly true. i then remarked some of the girls can't be over 16. the reply i got was that they weren't, but i could take them upstairs with no worries. it was then i was told the real owner is a big muckity-muck police officer. it does make good business sense if you know you can get away with it, which apparently is the case. recently the sec asked for information from some members of congress and their staff regarding insider trading. they were told to fuck off! congress does it because they know they can get away with it.

i too hope this topic doesn't get beat to death, but i think it is good if newbies looking for information are aware of the situation at crazy house, which is why i brought it up in the first place. i know this age thing has been mentioned in the past, but having recently used the forum to research some new destinations i know how easy it is to miss something unless it gets a lot of attention. we may remember a discussion on a topic from six months ago, but is it reasonable to expect a new reader of this thread to go back that far?

paul.

Looks like 12 onwards they will start serving liquor. Should heat things up. While most places at NEP are closed, the places that are open have decent stock. Still considering whether to bar fine or to try my luck on the street.

[QUOTE=EricSwiss;1593420]As a service to the community, I decided to pick up my boots and go check out the situation in the Nana area yesterday (Friday) night. Expect it will be the same tonight (Saturday) because it is also a religious holiday.

First, Nana Entertainment Plaza is closed. All the lights are off, there is nobody in, and there is a bored-looking guard sitting at the entrance preventing people from entering the Plaza. So no go-go bars!

However, there is still some action to be had. As you walk down Soi Nana, there are massage parlors with girls in uniform hanging out on the edge of the sidewalk offering their services. I did not partake, but I am pretty sure these include some sort of "release". You can easily tell the proper massage places from the naughty ones, and there weren't many proper ones.

Then there are plenty of streetwalkers lining up Soi Nana. On one side they are pretty much all real women (not ladyboys). These are not streetwalkers as much as streetstanders, because they do not move much. A guy who lives next door remarked that the offering was much better in quality and quantity than a normal day, probably because all the girls who normally work in go-go bars got thrown back on the street instead.

I actually picked up a cute one named Mii. I paid 1000 Baht for short time. While walking towards the hotel I asked her if she'd be willing to show her Identification Card to the hotel clerk. She frowned a bit at that and the vibe started to chill but I plowed through as if nothing had happened. Inside of course she did not show her I. The. Card, and I did not bring it up again, but she had gotten the message and was very respectful of my belongings, never being outside the shower without me. So I did the right thing in the end.

A skillful bit of finger-fucking her pussy soon evaporated the tension, and I had a great time. Towards the end I had her fuck me in the reverse cowgirl position. It looked like she would go on forever bouncing up and down my cock. Now that's unrushed service! Just the thought of banging her forever made my cock explode, of course, and forever turned into 30 seconds. But I'd banged her hard in 3 other positions before so I definitely got my money's worth. At the end she just collapsed on my shoulder and lay there unmoving, a touching display of exhaustion that no other hooker had ever done to me before. I must be getting better with age.

Anyway, if you want drinks, there are a couple of bars open on Soi Nana serving beer, albeit in a more discreet way than usual (plastic tinted glass, not bottle). So the ban on alcohol is only "selectively" enforced. There were also a lot of touts in their tuk-tuks handing out flyers about this place or that place being open, but I did not take them up on it, so I don't know the quality.

One thing I noticed is that at 2 am when the bars closed there were some stunning girls appearing from nowhere on the street trying to get paying customers. So that maybe a good plan, if you can stay sober that long. There was one in particular who was eye-fucking me, and I almost gave in, but amazingly reason (or tiredness?) prevailed.

In summary, it's not a regular night, but if you come to Nana something always happens.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1593400]Of course you can still get it from the repeats or oilies. But it used to be the 90% chance of getting it from any girl you pick, and some mongers like me have a penchant for trying out new girls. If I wanted to stick to the same few girls over and over, the giks would do the job just fine (though this route takes more time and is not viable past a certain age).[/QUOTE]Back in the 1990's you didn't have the widespread use of technology like cell phones, the internet & sites like ISG that make mongering so much more convenient & easy in 2014.

Nowadays without even leaving his room a guy can read forum reports & PM thousands of members to gain an endless supply of new girls. In the 2010's a semi inteligent monger could easily hit the alleged 90% of the 1990's.

Not only could he hit that figure in Thailand, but in other nations all over the planet.

Moreover in so doing this hobbyist could save all the time he wasted in the 1990's in leg work & sitting around in bars etc searching out his desired lady preferences. Additionally there is also the potential savings in costs such as transportation, drinks, tips & bar fines.

Things are also way better now as regards STIs, infrastructure & comforts.

[QUOTE=PaulKausch;1593671]Natty,

I then remarked some of the girls can't be over 16. The reply I got was that they weren't, but I could take them upstairs with no worries.[/QUOTE]Ever come to your mind that pimps and WG's will tell you also what you want to hear: Do you think they can openly keep and offer these girls just like that?

Lots of girls now dress and appear as japanese as there is a strong presence of japanese customers, but they are not japanese.

Lots of girls know lots of guys are looking for young girl and they try to appear as much young as possible, just to suit the market.

I bet that if you said, I only go with 20 yo girls, the guy would have shown you her I'd to prove she was ok and you could have her.

I am not saying there are not girls as such but not in such an obvious way.

My two cents.

Hi mate,

I am thinking of doing a trip soon from UK.

Overall how did you rate the experience and where did you stay? Was it the same hotel all the way through?

[QUOTE=Tptp76;1593241]Just got back from Bangkok and what an amazing time I had. First a big thanks to the guys here. Cannot imagine how anyone ever managed Bangkok without ISG! My flight arrived from UK at around 330 pm and I was out with my luggage in about 45 minutes. I changed money at the Kasikorn Bank counter in the basement. That seemed to have the best rates. Also bought a SIM card. I had written to Bamboo beforehand to book Cheer for an overnight. Wanted to start with someone I was sure would be good service!

Reached my hotel at around 630 pm. Cheer was in my room at 8! Not the most stunning looks, but great body and great service. She also has a friendly personality so I had a great time. The service was GFE / pse. As soon as she came out of the shower (I had just showered the minute before she walked in) she pulled my towel, went down on her knees and started giving me a great BBBJ. Subsequent to that I remember there being a lots of fingering, reverse oral and sex (including anal). We then went out for dinner to place she picked (can't remember the name) and when we returned. Had some of the best sex ever. It was like being with a gf. I slowly undressed her. And we made love. She really gets into it and seems to enjoy herself. By then I was wiped out and slept. Woke up in the morning to the sound of the shower. So once she came out showered myself and then another round of great sex! She left around 9 am. I paid her the 5 k+1 k tip. Thankfully did not spend that kind of money again on a LT during the trip but I do not regret it. After she left, I went for breakfast...[/QUOTE]

thunderball

bond "sir, i respectfully suggest that you assign me to nassau."

m "is there a reason besides your enthusiasm for [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord118][CodeWord118][/url]?"

bond "perhaps this, sir. "

m "well?

bond "there was a photograph of that man in this dossier you gave us."

his name is derval. i saw him last night at shrublands, but he was dead. "



group capt pritchard "not possible. he was seen boarding the vulcan. took off last night. ".


m "if he (bond) says he saw derval last night at shrublands and he was dead.

that's enough for me to initiate enquiries. ".

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1593660] most criminals are vain and think themselves to be geniuses. [/QUOTE]Some even become the President of the United States.

[QUOTE=EricSwiss;1593420]There was one in particular who was eye-fucking me, and I almost gave in, but amazingly reason (or tiredness?) prevailed.

[/QUOTE]That happened to me once at Terminal 21, but I turned away because I didn't have the 100,000 bahts with me.

[QUOTE=Western787;1593700]Some even become the President of the United States.[/QUOTE]Sure, fortunately then the Americans came to their senses and elected Obama.

[QUOTE=BionicMan;1593686]Ever come to your mind that pimps and WG's will tell you also what you want to hear: Do you think they can openly keep and offer these girls just like that?

Lots of girls now dress and appear as japanese as there is a strong presence of japanese customers, but they are not japanese.

Lots of girls know lots of guys are looking for young girl and they try to appear as much young as possible, just to suit the market.

I bet that if you said, I only go with 20 yo girls, the guy would have shown you her I'd to prove she was ok and you could have her.

I am not saying there are not girls as such but not in such an obvious way.

My two cents.[/QUOTE]Duh, really pimps and WGs tell ya what ya want to hear. Gosh never occurred to me. Thanks for letting me know. I'm joking with you. I think your'e absolutely right. Rule number one for mongers is to never believe a word people in the P4 P industry tell you. Which is not to say I don't think some of them will be straight with you once you get to know them. Just be careful who and what you believe.

I think my tone made it clear I didn't approve of them showcasing such young girls. I was surprised at the matter of fact response I got. On a couple of other visits I noticed some of the people working there had attitudes I didn't care for and have not encountered at other venues. Hmmm.

On my first visit I was blown away by the quality of the lineup and the way a bunch of buck naked young women worked the crowd. I had no problem with the ladies and the mamasans, and I did BF one of the older woman. In fact she claimed to be one of the two oldest woman working there, at 31. What an odd thing to boast about. A report on her and some photos are coming; but first I've got to stop wasting time on this topic.

In the end, after my last visit I decided I really didn't like the place and have no desire to go back on my next trip. Just my opinion.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1593681]Back in the 1990's you didn't have the widespread use of technology like cell phones, the internet & sites like ISG that make mongering so much more convenient & easy in 2014.

Nowadays without even leaving his room a guy can read forum reports & PM thousands of members to gain an endless supply of new girls. In the 2010's a semi inteligent monger could easily hit the alleged 90% of the 1990's.

Not only could he hit that figure in Thailand, but in other nations all over the planet.

Moreover in so doing this hobbyist could save all the time he wasted in the 1990's in leg work & sitting around in bars etc searching out his desired lady preferences. Additionally there is also the potential savings in costs such as transportation, drinks, tips & bar fines.

Things are also way better now as regards STIs, infrastructure & comforts.[/QUOTE]Actually this is the problem. When there was less information available mongering was far better. Less dudes, more hidden gems and locales. Gals also had to interact more with punters and actually work. And to make matters worse bringing all these places to "light" has also led to all the crackdowns.

First. I read the forum yet had I hooked up with a more experienced BKK hand, I might have salvaged the trip.

I was told in advance that "3 weeks is too much time in BKK" and that I should have planned to go to Pattaya, yet.

Tastes vary, so I forged ahead solo. I booked a great deal for a room in the "trendy apartments" on Soi 11 I think.

Became a regular at Spanky's bar in front of the building and frequently went to the Villa market for groceries, beer.

Etc. At one point I befriended a mamasan from one of the massage places who ended up fucking my brains out.

Several nights in a row in my apt. Mistake. I found myself sneaking out of my building via the Sukhumvit entrance.

So as to avoid the 18 hr / day surveillance from her girls.

The one time I brought a beer garden girl (big disappointment) back via Sukhumvit I had her walk ahead of me.

Through the Sukhumvit entrance and past the security. In March it's damned hot also, I might return again but if.

I do, it won't be in March!

[QUOTE=Dornyone;1593807]First. I read the forum yet had I hooked up with a more experienced BKK hand, I might have salvaged the trip.

(...) At one point I befriended a mamasan from one of the massage places who ended up fucking my brains out.

Several nights in a row in my apt. Mistake. I found myself sneaking out of my building via the Sukhumvit entrance.

So as to avoid the 18 hr / day surveillance from her girls.[/QUOTE]Hello Dornyone,

I'm not sure what the mistake was. Getting your brains fucked out definitely qualifies as an accomplishment rather than a failure. That's pretty much the objective.

Maybe the mistake was not changing hotels halfway through?

Eric

[QUOTE=Dornyone;1593807]First. I read the forum yet had I hooked up with a more experienced BKK hand, I might have salvaged the trip.

I was told in advance that "3 weeks is too much time in BKK" and that I should have planned to go to Pattaya, yet.

Tastes vary, so I forged ahead solo. I booked a great deal for a room in the "trendy apartments" on Soi 11 I think.

Became a regular at Spanky's bar in front of the building and frequently went to the Villa market for groceries, beer.

Etc. At one point I befriended a mamasan from one of the massage places who ended up fucking my brains out.

Several nights in a row in my apt. Mistake. I found myself sneaking out of my building via the Sukhumvit entrance.

So as to avoid the 18 hr / day surveillance from her girls.

The one time I brought a beer garden girl (big disappointment) back via Sukhumvit I had her walk ahead of me.

Through the Sukhumvit entrance and past the security. In March it's damned hot also, I might return again but if.

I do, it won't be in March![/QUOTE]Reading your posting, it doesn't sound as if you did very bad. Having a hot mamasan servicing you with great sex several nights in a row, is something many of us would rate high on our to-do lists!

And you found out that social control in Thailand is rather strict and there are eyes everywhere? Actually, it is only as strict as you let it be. Just smile as you walk past. Of course, you will not get the same kind of service from your mamasan anymore. Even in LOS you cannot eat your cake and still have it too.

Everyone of us will have had a less stellar experience from time to time, but even my worst sessions in SE Asia still rated much better than the average of my sessions in Europe. And it is cheap in Thailand to forget the bad session with a much better one, a few hours later.

The weather is something you will have to suffer, unless you limit your stay in Thailand to the "high season" period (November. February). Travel and accomodation will be more expensive; the agogo clubs will be more crowded with punters; there will be more competition for the better girls; ... up to you to see if the cooler weather warrants all of that.

But let these small hick-ups not spoil your appetite to come back. It is my personal experience that the more time you spend here, the better you become in more easily discovering the good providers and enjoying your trip even better.