Sosua Reports

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2127068]What do you mean you can not find the females? You set your profile up with the criteria and voila! Or you do a search. If you are just expecting 100 chicks to send you messages saying how much they want to fuck you then I would change those expectations.[/QUOTE]Well that response made me laugh. I set up a profile to say I was in Sosua and provided information about when I would stay there. I have a couple dozen matches but only two have exchanged messages. From my perspective this looks more like a valid dating site more than a place for mongers to arrange meetings, even for the females listed in Sosua. I will adjust my expectations as they were not in perspective. Thanks.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2126517]It is not just about tastes. You have to look at the mongers that take the ultra defensive stance on Sosua. Most of them have never mongered in other major hooker destinations so for them it is the greatest thing on the planet. These same mongers make every excuse not to check out other destinations so they have nothing to compare it to. You, like me, have been all over (Germany, Philippines, Brazil, Colombia, etc) so you have been able to make an objective judgement on the place experiencing it how it was "before" and how it is now and how it stacks up against other places. But if all you knew was Sosua then of course you would think it is the greatest show on earth.

You have a guy like Wrx who has lived in Sosua the past few years and likes living there, but is not staunchly defending the place. To me, he sees it for what it is and has no problem conveying to us the good, the bad, and the ugly, when others refuse to admit to any bad or ugly. Moreover, he visits other destinations when he can and is not limiting himself to only Sosua/DR. While you can say that you have a better time in Frankfurt than Sosua, the most the guys that take the ultra defensive stance can say is that they have a much better time in Sosua than at home.[/QUOTE]There is nothing wrong with Sosua as long as one doesn't try to compare it to a world-class city. As a laid-back beach destination with lively nightlife and surprisingly good food options, I honestly can't fault Sosua. It's just unfair to compare Sosua and Germany, for example because a) pussy costs a lot more and b) big German cities have a lot to offer to a tourist in addition to carnal pleasures.

Of the places you've mentioned Colombia is the only one I haven't been to yet (shame, I know, but it's next on the list), and while all these places can be great, they all (again, maybe except Colombia) have issues.

1. Manila (AC) is far, far away, and, sans a couple of neighborhoods, it's a beachless dump. I'm not even going to comment on AC. Sorry, but it's true.

2. Germany is far away, it's beachless, and 2-3 times more expensive.

3. Brazil is also far away, and while I absolutely love Rio, it's a bustling metropolis and not everyone's cup of tea.

Sosua, on the other hand, is just 3 hours away from NY. Yes, it's a dump, but it has great and affordable accommodations, a very nice beach, some lovely tourist sights nearby, and all the pussy you can handle. Seriously, as lazy as I am, all I need is to show up at Classico where there is no shortage of girls from 6 to 9 for my enjoyment.

Maybe Cartagena is better, but from what I've read the beach is not very nice. We'll see.

[QUOTE=WanderingMan;2127089]Well that response made me laugh. I set up a profile to say I was in Sosua and provided information about when I would stay there. I have a couple dozen matches but only two have exchanged messages. From my perspective this looks more like a valid dating site more than a place for mongers to arrange meetings, even for the females listed in Sosua. I will adjust my expectations as they were not in perspective. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I use the BROWSE function and go through the profiles / pics and message those I'm interested in. Pay attention to their "Last Online" since you obviously don't want to waste messaging someone who hasn't been on line in days / weeks. Not every girl on there is looking for a short time hookup. You might want to also look in Puerto Plata as it is close enough that they'll come to you in Sosua.

[QUOTE=WanderingMan;2127089]Well that response made me laugh. I set up a profile to say I was in Sosua and provided information about when I would stay there. I have a couple dozen matches but only two have exchanged messages. From my perspective this looks more like a valid dating site more than a place for mongers to arrange meetings, even for the females listed in Sosua. I will adjust my expectations as they were not in perspective. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I assume you put it in Spanish, but that probably would not matter anyway. To tell you the truth Tagged is the most hit or miss site with Dominicans. For instance, about 3 months ago I spoke to a Dominican chick on the site. 13 days ago she finally responded with a Hi. I responded with Hello, and nothing else from you? She has not answered back. You will get much better results on the Cupid sites from my experience. The same thing will happen on Cupid, but way less frequent than it does on Tagged. You will get way more responses on Cupid, but of course you have to pay on Cupid too.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2127069]Sure, that IS another good reason. The small foot print of the town is another one for me, in that you can walk everywhere. But, speaking of Sosua per se, I will be absolutely candid: I go there for the food! LOL! For one reason or another, I tend to go with women that are already (even if virtually at times) familiar with me and my expectations, which are mostly from other places including Pto Pta, as I hate surprises and picking a woman from the bars, at night and perhaps in a state of inebriation, does have its surprises as we all know.[/QUOTE]I only like nice surprises!

So I read the negative stories here about the dead times in Sosua, smelly, skanky, rip off hoes, the no shows, the bait and switch artists, the drama queens, and even guys who lose their gold chains, laptops an IPhone.

Then I Iook at my own experience.

Why does this stuff never happen to me and my friends?

Let's see!

First, hygiene.

I wouldn't go online or read ads to find a hoe. Arranging to meet a complete stranger in a different city, sounds like a stressful crapshoot to me. I like to see them standing, functioning in public, clean and smelling fresh. Are they happy or depressed?

Second, trustworthiness.

Since there's really no way to know for sure, I generally only go with women I have been introduced to by people I know and trust, and yes, this includes some hoes. This is of course, is much easier for a regular visitor, or a resident. It's a poor regular or resident that does not build up some kind of a rapport with locals who live and work there. I need the chica who cleans my place and does the laundry, the chico who lugs that water bottle to me place, my barber, my phone guy, my MC guy, my taxi guy, my 2 or 3 favorite bartenders. I don't see how you can survive down there normally without some local network. They all have extended family, "cousins" and some of them are in the P4 P business, on way or another.

Third, pricing.

You want to stick to a sustainable budget, but you know you'll never get a great steak for 150 pesos, or a large Bailey's Special pizza at the same price as the hole in the wall.

Same with women. You need to eat every day, but once in a while, or on a special occasion, you may want to forget the McHappyMeal, and go for the Happy Hour Meal (Steak AND Lobster) .

P4 P sex is a business, like any other, and the best outcomes are always when the customer AND the provider are satisfied. I've seen newbies underestimate the poor hoes and try to game the system, but it seldom works, and he's likely not coming back anyway. Most likely it is the newbie that gets gamed. A lot of hoes do get stiffed by johns, so some do get embittered. (Johns, contrary to some of the "legends in their own mind" are not known for being the most ethical and upstanding citizens) (These are usually the ones who brag about having hoes lined up begging them to fuck them for free) :) See also my note on gringo "no shows", below.

You don't need to make local enemies in a small town, unless you are prepared to leave or give the place a wide berth! .

Fourth, Safety.

Observe the points above, and you will have friendly "eyes" looking out for you, especially if you spend your dinero in the same places with the same people, and not always be trying to beat them down on price. You should know what normal prices are by now.

Dress down, or up, like a local, don't wear expensive jewelry and look like you just got off the plane. I walk down some dark alleys to get back to my place, but I try to look like a guy who's comfortable enough and savvy enough not to carry cash, jewellery and IPhone with me through there.

Don't look like easy pickings. And NEVER get drunk in public, or with strangers.

Again, don't make enemies, or be a drama queen, or get known to the local cops.

Fifth, a 5 or a 10?

We all have different ideas on sexual chemistry so you are on your own here. Go to youTube and Google images and enter "Sosua Nightlife" If you don't like the type of women you see there, why waste your money? Go somewhere else! If you prefer Asians or Brazilians don't complain about Sosua!

I grew up in the Playboy days where I saw photos of beautiful women who drove me nuts. I would always tune into Miss World and Miss Universe to see the epitome of beauty, the various Miss Latin Americas. Always figured, one day!

Well this Island has them, but you won't find them on the street, unless they are brand new and haven't figured out the business yet.

My local friends who know what I like and they can connect me.

So where's this leave the newbie who has no connections?

Well I was a newbie too, but my very first night here and the couple people I met convinced me that this is a place I want to be. I started planting some seeds, and they turned into trees 9 years later!

If you can get that feeling, you'll find that like the 3 Blind Men and the Elephant, Sosua is largely what you make of it.

Common sense! Be guarded but friendly, firm, don't try to outsmart the gamers, move on.

With the street and bar ladies, it's simple, take enough time to check them out, before taking a stranger back to your room where you keep your shit. Make sure you are comfortable with your exit strategy. Pay for what you get when you get it, and never, ever make promises, like later, or manana, or next time. Each transaction should stand on it's own.

If seen girls crying because they came in from out of town, with hair and nails done, a new dress, and even Momma and the family back home preparing an expensive (for them) meal because a gringo promised he would visit her home next Sunday, and never showed up.

Lastly, Town "dead"

Rememeber Sosua has high seasons and low seasons, hurricane seasons and rainy seasons. Local religious holidays and closings, Holy Weeks. Superbowl weekends. Sometimes it's a sausage fest, but sometimes a hungry chica with bambina at home or in debt, will do you for 500 pesos, even lunch!

Don't pick the worst time to visit. You don't go to Florida in August, right?

Hope this helps, but, as usual, it's only IMHO, and of course, as always YMMV.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2126937] But if it were not that way, everything, and especially the pussy, would not be so affordable. The people's loss is our gain.[/QUOTE]My sentiments exactly. It took some time to adjust from overly complaining about the way things are in the DR, to learning how to deal with certain things (not necessarily liking it) and seeing it's overall value and benefit. I had some body work done on my car last year in Sosua, cost me $200 USD. The same work in the US could have easily cost me a $1,000 or more. Work done on my pasola is dirt cheap. Taxis and other transportation is cheap. There is much to appreciate being in the DR, in spite of the things that are ass backwards.

Are these percentages accurate, CP? If so, that explains a lot including PI and other third worlds. If anyone has any sources on this I'd love to read it. Thanks. Cheers.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;2126937]So you bat for the other team, Oakie? I would never have thought it.

There are mountains of government regulations. Every new regime here produces thousands of new ones, but rarely repeals any old ones. It is their lax and erratic enforcement that preserves the country as a backward shit-heap with 50% unemployment, 10% literacy, and in the bottom 5% out of 200 nations for corruption and difficulty of conducting business. But if it were not that way, everything, and especially the pussy, would not be so affordable. The people's loss is our gain.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;2126346]If you go to Sosua on Christmas Holiday you may have some issues. However please do act as if this is the norm. The norm is scores of attractive women waiting for your dollars. I would like to hear from some one who went to Classicos and was out numbered by guys.[/QUOTE]Why would knowing his dates, make a difference to you? Are you saying then you wouldn't have called him out on his BS? The point is OK you attacked a posters perspective for no reason. Even if you knew his dates, you shouldn't be attacking anybodies perspective in the 1st place. 2 ndly, you should have already been aware of the fact that each day, week, month and year can be different in Sosua. Chicas, quality and quantity changes frequently. Especially during holidays.

Now if you don't know this from personal experience coming to Sosua, then perhaps you should not be so judgemental towards others who happen to share their experience / perspective even if it is different than your own. And again, I stress the importance of good communication, by seeking feedback for understanding and clarity before blasting people. A skill set not used enough. BTW we are well aware of the norms, and nobody is in dispute of that. Just stick to the meat and potatoes of what is being addressed here.

Mr. Turgid simply entered into the fray of a long running debate that will never be resolved among the parties involved.

I personally don't give a fuck about what any of you think of Sosua (positive or negative). But, I know that my opinion of the place does not invalidate anyone else's experiences or opinions. Unfortunately, the parties on both sides don't get that. What I care about is 1) Sharing of factual information 2) Experiences of others. I really only care about opinions of people I know and trust. Put me in the positive camp. I've been to Sosua one time and I loved it. So that would make me a newbie to Sosua who had a good time. But I also haven't been back.

What baffles me is why people who like other places better insist on posting about it in this forum and claiming that anyone who happens to like Sosua has to be someone that has no experience elsewhere. From the posts that I have read it appears that perspective is dead wrong. But it's not the first time I read that particular reasoning being expressed here by the same individual. But I doubt that anyone in the critical crew will ever change the type of input they consistantly provide here.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2127069]Sure, that IS another good reason. The small foot print of the town is another one for me, in that you can walk everywhere. But, speaking of Sosua per se, I will be absolutely candid: I go there for the food! LOL! For one reason or another, I tend to go with women that are already (even if virtually at times) familiar with me and my expectations, which are mostly from other places including Pto Pta, as I hate surprises and picking a woman from the bars, at night and perhaps in a state of inebriation, does have its surprises as we all know.[/QUOTE]I can say something positive about the meal I had in Sosua.

I had a steak at terra linda and it was pretty decent considering where I was. If by chance I was ever in Sosua (which I do not foresee) I would eat there again.

You are truly a sour presence in this forum. You can find problems in a wet dream. Have a good day.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2127298]Why would knowing his dates, make a difference to you? Are you saying then you wouldn't have called him out on his BS? The point is OK you attacked a posters perspective for no reason. Even if you knew his dates, you shouldn't be attacking anybodies perspective in the 1st place. 2 ndly, you should have already been aware of the fact that each day, week, month and year can be different in Sosua. Chicas, quality and quantity changes frequently. Especially during holidays.

Now if you don't know this from personal experience coming to Sosua, then perhaps you should not be so judgemental towards others who happen to share their experience / perspective even if it is different than your own. And again, I stress the importance of good communication, by seeking feedback for understanding and clarity before blasting people. A skill set not used enough. BTW we are well aware of the norms, and nobody is in dispute of that. Just stick to the meat and potatoes of what is being addressed here.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;2127445]You are truly a sour presence in this forum. You can find problems in a wet dream. Have a good day.[/QUOTE]I have read his post; it is perfectly rational. My experience is that when a person cannot counter a statement logically they resort to ad hominem attacks (personal attacks).

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;2127298]Why would knowing his dates, make a difference to you? Are you saying then you wouldn't have called him out on his BS? The point is OK you attacked a posters perspective for no reason. Even if you knew his dates, you shouldn't be attacking anybodies perspective in the 1st place. 2 ndly, you should have already been aware of the fact that each day, week, month and year can be different in Sosua. Chicas, quality and quantity changes frequently. Especially during holidays.

Now if you don't know this from personal experience coming to Sosua, then perhaps you should not be so judgemental towards others who happen to share their experience / perspective even if it is different than your own. And again, I stress the importance of good communication, by seeking feedback for understanding and clarity before blasting people. A skill set not used enough. BTW we are well aware of the norms, and nobody is in dispute of that. Just stick to the meat and potatoes of what is being addressed here.[/QUOTE]For the record I did indicate in my post that "I had just returned from Sosua" It was right in the beginning of my post. The selective reading here by a few is mind boggling.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;2127072]Pooter was only being facetious but with a grain of truth as well!

By the way, when I met with Gogo last week in Sosua, he told me you were around which was a surprise as I thought you had packed and gone home for the holidays. I had a drink with him shooting breeze at the Cuban bar one evening. Had a good time, same with Pooter in Pto Pta, meeting for a meal.[/QUOTE]Mr GoGo is responsible to a large degree for getting me started in Sosua in the first place, years ago, so I owe him a lot!

He's the one of the few I trust here, so if the usual suspects call my reports "delusional" bullshit and lies, I send him the pictures, cause I trust him!

He walks a fine line between the bullshitters and regular posters. It's a shitty job, but I applaud him for doing it! :)

The naysayers can blame him forgetting me started, and even becoming "ultra defensive".

LOL! I kinda like that term. But Sosua needs no "ultra defense" from me.

Ever figure, why y'all here?

[QUOTE=Oakie;2127464]Mr GoGo is responsible to a large degree for getting me started in Sosua in the first place, years ago, so I owe him a lot!

He's the only one I trust here, so if the usual suspects call my reports delusional bullshit, I send him the pictures, cause I trust him!

The naysayers can balame him forgetting me started, and even becoming "ultra defensive". LOL! I kinda like that term.[/QUOTE]Sorry I didn't get a chance to meet you in Sosua but I was only there for 48 hours. I actually was so busy I pushed the meet with Tempoecorto back two times and he was a good sport. I figured I would do a simple greet because my crew was having a party at Flame but Tempo was such a nice guy that I forgot about my crew while we turned back a few drinks. But you are on my list my next trip to Sosua as you are in my top 5 of posters here.