Looking for info on FKKs and German mongering in general
I'm planning a personal vacation to include a lot of playing with hot / young women. I have been looking primarily in Latin America simply because it is a stone's throw from home. Then, I happened to click on one of the ads by accident, and it was for a tour company that specialized in FKKs. This got me thinking and now I'm considering making a trip to Europe for my vacation. Sure, it won't be as warm or have tropical beaches, but I already live on a beach-- LOL. The idea of Europe is appealing to me because it is not a 3rd world country and English is pretty much spoken and understood. My plans are for 4 nights in Europe. I also happen to know some German. With that in mind, I'm looking for some good FAQ answers about FKKs and general mongering in Germany.
First and I know this is a broad question, but what should I expect in terms of an atmosphere at an FKK? I like high energy and a rave like setting. Is this what FKKs are? From what I've researched, they seem more like a bar where the girls are already naked and guys are walking around in robes or towels.
Second, what can I expect in terms of services? Are there upsells or is everything a standard rate. I'm more into the GFE / PSE thing and prefer BBBJ and if possible BBFS? Is this possible at an FKK? I've seen somewhere that new laws require condoms for everything-- not my style.
Third, can I go longer than 30 min? I prefer an hour and will want two girls at one time. Also, I mean a real 3-some with girl on girl action as well as with me. I'm not into taking turns with one girl watching.
Fourth, while cost really isn't a problem, I do like to get the best bang for my buck. What places do you esteemed members consider good value?
Fifth, is it worth using a tour that includes hotel and a group setting dynamic?
Sixth, if I went on my own, where would be the best are / place to stay considering I'd be relying on public transport? How late does the you-Bahn in Frankfurt operate?
Seventh, any recommendations on how to find a girl to do an overnight? I know about using dating sites and Tinder, but are there "working" girls who offer this at a reasonable rate?
Eighth, are they any clubs that have a target rich environment of girls who just might come home with me? I'm talking about a hot young 20 year old going home with a dude in his mid-50's.
Lastly, should I consider another European location like London or Amsterdam?
Some Answers for you But.
So I will answer a few of your questions, but have you been to So Paulo? In my opinion you will get many more of the things you are looking for:
Nightclub like atmosphere.
BBFS possible even with pretty girls in some cases.
Much more GFE.
Easy to find overnight girls at reasonable prices.
Given the choice I would choose SP hands down (even tho FKK is awesome).
Q: First and I know this is a broad question, but what should I expect in terms of an atmosphere at an FKK? I like high energy and a rave like setting. Is this what FKKs are? From what I've researched, they seem more like a bar where the girls are already naked and guys are walking around in robes or towels.
A: You have it close. But there is also a buffet, sauna, massage etc. You can spent a whole day and fuck 5 girls if you have the stamina and coin. It's a destination type experience.
Q: Second, what can I expect in terms of services? Are there upsells or is everything a standard rate. I'm more into the GFE / PSE thing and prefer BBBJ and if possible BBFS? Is this possible at an FKK? I've seen somewhere that new laws require condoms for everything-- not my style.
A: BBFS only happens at certain clubs with less attractive girls. See Dietzenback for example. BBBJ is done everywhere. Can't do in public as in the past. And some girls try to upcharge 50 for it. But no problem getting it.
Q: Third, can I go longer than 30 min? I prefer an hour and will want two girls at one time. Also, I mean a real 3-some with girl on girl action as well as with me. I'm not into taking turns with one girl watching.
A: You can go as long as you like. Just negotiate price with the girl. Threesome is double price. Be aware if you choose CIM which is 50 upcharge (not sharing this is standard) a duo will try to charge you the CIM charge for both girls. You can decide whether you want to pay that or negotiate.
Q: Fourth, while cost really isn't a problem, I do like to get the best bang for my buck. What places do you esteemed members consider good value?
A: Sharks in Frankfurt seems to have the head nod at the moment. Oase is always discussed in same breath. I don't know rest of Germany.
Q: Fifth, is it worth using a tour that includes hotel and a group setting dynamic?
A: Seems like a huge waste of money to me. It's not hard to navigate this scene.
Q: Lastly, should I consider another European location like London or Amsterdam?
A: London is spectacular but for incall using agencies like Diva or Admiral. Not a club scene. You book a girl and go to her apt and do your thing in her bed. It's an amazing and intimate experience and totally awesome. But not a club. Or you could do what I did and meet a girl at a club in Sao Paulo then fly her to London and go to the clubs with her. The clubs are great but you need a steady girl. Not like the Boates in SP.
A small personal thumbs up to Steve and Kuni but one more idea.
I think they both hit the nail on the head. Latin America / So America is more the night club, overnight scene. You described the scene at the FKK yourself. Men with towels drinking beer, or coffee looking at ladies and drooling, I mean dreaming.
German-speaking ability is not needed in fact, in most of the clubs, the Ro girls asked me to speak English more often than German. And most of the men I talked to, were happy to speak to me in German or English. Much of what you are discussing is simple English vocabulary Skip any tour group, you can be certain that there is some kick backs, you are on someone else's schedule and with this board, and the clubs own home pages, there is little you can't figure out. As to hotels, German public transportation is so amazing that you can't go wrong. At the worst, you can always find a cab, or Uber.
My idea of a good trip for you: Fly into Frankfurt. Fly out of Berlin. Stay near the Haubtbahnhof, take a train to Darmstadt (Sharks), try Palace, take a train to one of the other NRW clubs mentioned or overnight near the clubs. Plenty of options. If you pick a nice 3/4 star hotel near the train station, you will be walking distance to the RLD in Frankfurt as well if you want to just "see the action". Again, read the RLD forums. Everyone has an opinion on the RLD, and the days of the week, that the action is hottest.
Overnight is a much harder question. I don't know what you expect, wouldn't it be easier for 4 days, to just go to a buffet (FKK) have all you can eat, literally and figuratively, and go home when you are "full" or maybe empty is a better choice of words. I find it's nothing like South America where girls leave clubs with you all the time. And the prices are hardly "cheap". You 'might' go on a site like Lusthaus CC and check a few of the reviews for Frankfurt, or Berlin under "huren". This will pop over to their ads, (google translate the page is your friend). You can then figure budgets. I am also assuming if you met a girl in a FKK and you really wanted more, you might be able to negotiate something. At the end of the day, money talks. (When you look at the men in an FKK the range is thin, athletic to really obese. The girls only look at their wallets, they've seen it all).
Amsterdam way overrated, but you could always do a train from Frankurt, or a cheap air flight from Berlin. To me, Artemis in Berlin is more fun than any club in Amsterdam and the prices in Amsterdam are NUTS. Total rip offs.
One more thought. Fly into Frankfurt. 2 nights there, train to Berlin, 2 days there (some good sight seeing), then take a cheap flight or train to Prague. Good clubs there. Fly out of Prague home. 5 - 6 days, and more sex than you can stand. YOu'll be happy to sleep alone in your bed.