American Politics

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2558691]And why is that? It is because Martin Luther King Sr told them to. Before that 1960 election most were Republican. And why did he tell them to? Because the Republican candidate Nixon would not help get his son out of jail, but the Democratic candidate Kennedy did. If it was not for that small moment in history, the Democratic party would probably not exist today.[/QUOTE]You really believe blakmericans (you excepted, of course) are such petty herd animals that they would follow blindly, as you suggest?

[QUOTE=Canada;2558746]Here is news from USA Today. I guess they lie also.

USA TODAY.

The claim: Pennsylvania recorded more mail-in votes than ballots requested.

A claim made by President Donald Trump and his supporters on social media is that Pennsylvania election officials reported more mail-in votes for the 2020 election than the number of ballots requested.

Users on Facebook are sharing a screenshot of a viral tweet from Republican state Sen. Doug Mastriano that purports to show data shared by the Pennsylvania Department of State. Data is laid out in a chart, with vote totals for Trump and Democrat Joe Biden, with a timestamp of 8 pm Nov. 24.

Mastriano adds the chart "was posted on our Department of State dashboard but had since been deleted. ".

Below the chart is this question: "Pennsylvania reports having mailed out 1,823,148 ballots, of which 1,462,302 were returned. Yet total mail-in voters number 2,589,242? From where did the extra 1,126,940 votes come?

By December 1 Department of State took down the chart. Amazing every time there is evidence of fraud that the democrats in Department of State removed the charts of the vote totals but it is easy to check that they received more than 100% of the ballots. Happened in Georgia also. This is USA Today a democratic newspaper that reported this.[/QUOTE]
How can you quote the CLAIM of a fact-check, and avoid the FACTual conclusion?
"The numbers are real but they are a mix of data from the state's primary and general elections. And the data is still on the state's website. ".

In short this is an example of Mastiano and / or his followers being misunderstanding what they read. They are observing more mail in ballots received in a pandemic for a general election than were sent out for a PRIMARY election. But who quotes an article and leaves out the 'fact' in a fact check in order to leave the exact wrong impression? Either the above poster is dishonest or he relies on sources which are.

So are Republican leaders stupid or are they taking advantage of people's desire to believe they won? I didn't check the state website, but I will say that Mastriano is a retired Colonel with degrees from University of New Brunswick School of Advanced Air and Space Studies and United States Army War College... He knows how to read a chart.

Here is the link: [URL]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/11/28/fact-check-pennsylvania-ballot-claim-mixes-primary-general-election-data/6450032002/[/URL].

[QUOTE=Canada;2558746]Here is news from USA Today. I guess they lie also.

USA TODAY.

The claim: Pennsylvania recorded more mail-in votes than ballots requested.

A claim made by President Donald Trump and his supporters on social media is that Pennsylvania election officials reported more mail-in votes for the 2020 election than the number of ballots requested.

Users on Facebook are sharing a screenshot of a viral tweet from Republican state Sen. Doug Mastriano that purports to show data shared by the Pennsylvania Department of State. Data is laid out in a chart, with vote totals for Trump and Democrat Joe Biden, with a timestamp of 8 pm Nov. 24.

Mastriano adds the chart "was posted on our Department of State dashboard but had since been deleted. ".

Below the chart is this question: "Pennsylvania reports having mailed out 1,823,148 ballots, of which 1,462,302 were returned. Yet total mail-in voters number 2,589,242? From where did the extra 1,126,940 votes come?[/QUOTE]Well Sojourner did the work for me, totally blowing your lies out of the water.

"In a news release on Oct. 27, the deadline to apply for a mail or absentee ballot in the state, Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Wolf's office said more than 3 million voters had applied to vote by mail.

The USA Elections Project reports that mail ballot request rates were 1,941,131 for Democrats; 784,851 for Republicans; 25,367 for a minor party; and 336,175 for independents, putting the total number requested at 3,087,524."

Of course since Trump rose to power it seems very few people in the Republican party are capable of telling the truth. You will have to do a lot better Canada!

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2558833]You really believe blakmericans (you excepted, of course) are such petty herd animals that they would follow blindly, as you suggest?[/QUOTE]Sorry, I did not suggest anything. I simply stated a known fact. This was during the Civil Rights Era and MLK Sr had clout amongst Black people as the head of what is the most famous Black church in America. Feel free to look it up.

"With days left in the race, the campaigns of Richard M. Nixon and John F. Kennedy sought to downplay civil rights issues for fear of losing southern white votes. [b]Blacks had mostly voted Republican, since Abraham Lincoln.[/b] Nixon had just been endorsed by Martin Luther King Sr. , the leader of Ebenezer Baptist Church. But Nixon ignored their pleas for help, while Kennedy called Coretta to express his sympathy.

Historians Taylor Branch and David Garrow wrote that Robert F. Kennedy threw a fit, telling aides who fed her number to his brother that they cost him the presidency, but he called Mitchell, who reversed his denial of bond, immediately freeing King.

King's father switched his endorsement, saying Kennedy had "the moral courage to stand up for what's right. " That quote, and others, appeared in a blue-papered pamphlet titled "No Comment Nixon Versus a Candidate with a Heart, Senator Kennedy. " Unnoticed by the national media, Kennedy aides and King supporters distributed the pamphlet in black churches around the nation the Sunday before Election Day.

[b]Blacks had voted 60-40 Republican just four years earlier; this time they voted 70-30 for the Democrat[/b], providing more than enough for Kennedy to win the electoral college and the popular vote by a narrow 113,000 margin nationwide".

[QUOTE=Sojourner;2558846]How can you quote the CLAIM of a fact-check, and avoid the FACTual conclusion?
"The numbers are real but they are a mix of data from the state's primary and general elections. And the data is still on the state's website. ".

In short this is an example of Mastiano and / or his followers being misunderstanding what they read. They are observing more mail in ballots received in a pandemic for a general election than were sent out for a PRIMARY election. But who quotes an article and leaves out the 'fact' in a fact check in order to leave the exact wrong impression? Either the above poster is dishonest or he relies on sources which are.

So are Republican leaders stupid or are they taking advantage of people's desire to believe they won? I didn't check the state website, but I will say that Mastriano is a retired Colonel with degrees from University of New Brunswick School of Advanced Air and Space Studies and United States Army War College... He knows how to read a chart.

Here is the link: [URL]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/11/28/fact-check-pennsylvania-ballot-claim-mixes-primary-general-election-data/6450032002/[/URL].[/QUOTE]You can't check the state because the state deleted the chart and the evidence so nobody will ever know the truth. Seems like everytime some real evidence gets presented it it quickly eliminated by the democrats. As soon as USA Today ran the story the evidence disappeared. And you wonder why Republicans want a honest election.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2558825]Pleas explain why a potential voter showing a hunting license an a US birth certificate can get a photo ID and why another potential voter showing a college photo ID and a US birth certificate cannot get a photo ID?

We all want to take advantage of your superior wisdom.[/QUOTE]It is very simple. You can't get a hunting or fishing license without a drivers license to prove what state you live in. If you have a hunting license you have a drivers license. Obviously you are not a hunter. A college ID or a birth certificate does not prove the state you live in.

CNN last night proved they are not a news station but only a propaganda platform for the democrats. With tensions in Israel and Middle East problems, Taliban starting up the CNN news spent 90 minutes discussing their new darling for the democrats Cheney. They love Cheney now that Wyoming has basically given up on her agenda. CNN will continue talking about anyone who opposes Trump rather than report the news.

Biden is scrambling and has no solutions. Border crises, Israel, Taliban, inflation poor job reports. He has accomplished nothing and everything that was working las 4 years is falling apart. The democrats must be so proud. In just 100 days we went from great to distressed.

Afghanistan has resisted invaders for longer than the last four years and 100 days. The current administration, like it or not was handed a mess in many ways. The southern US border has been in chaos for decades. Why pay attention to CNN when all one needs to know comes from Tuckkker, except his Covid vaccination status. Maybe the second shot is the reason he's so whacked out. By the way, didn’t the Boy Wonder real estate grifter solve the Middle East problems. He stroked Prince Salamander’s Orb along with Fat Nixon. Kashoggi (RIP)

[QUOTE=Canada;2558890]You can't check the state because the state deleted the chart and the evidence so nobody will ever know the truth. Seems like everytime some real evidence gets presented it it quickly eliminated by the democrats. As soon as USA Today ran the story the evidence disappeared. And you wonder why Republicans want a honest election.[/QUOTE]Or, the state realized that the "evidence" was all BS so they deleted it.

All, ie. Every single one, of the "facts" that RepucliCANTS cling to (regarding the election) have been debunked. Just like "Jewish Space Lasers", "Windmills cause cancer", etc.

[QUOTE=Canada;2558891]It is very simple. You can't get a hunting or fishing license without a drivers license to prove what state you live in. If you have a hunting license you have a drivers license. Obviously you are not a hunter. A college ID or a birth certificate does not prove the state you live in.[/QUOTE]A college student with a valid ID resides close to the college. He is therefore eligible to vote there. Period. End of story.

[QUOTE=Canada;2558893]CNN last night proved they are not a news station but only a propaganda platform for the democrats. With tensions in Israel and Middle East problems, Taliban starting up the CNN news spent 90 minutes discussing their new darling for the democrats Cheney. They love Cheney now that Wyoming has basically given up on her agenda. CNN will continue talking about anyone who opposes Trump rather than report the news.

Biden is scrambling and has no solutions. Border crises, Israel, Taliban, inflation poor job reports. He has accomplished nothing and everything that was working las 4 years is falling apart. The democrats must be so proud. In just 100 days we went from great to distressed.[/QUOTE]Two words: Cancel cuture. They are busy pointing out to Republicans, who suffer from cranial-rectal inversion, the hypocrisy of canceling Cheney. According to the GOP, cancel culture only happens when Democrats do it.

The caning of Liz Cheney is cancel culture's ignominious hour. Disclaimer: I'm not a fan of either faction of the US one party system of the rich.

[QUOTE=Beijing4987;2558899]The current administration, like it or not was handed a mess in many ways.[/QUOTE]If you came to me and begged to buy this visibly old and dilapidated house that others were also interested in buying and I sold it to you, you can hardly say that you were handed a mess when you begged for, competed for, and paid for said mess.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2558823]Why post lies that are easily disproven in a 30-second internet search.

"The statistic combines data from Pennsylvania's June primary election, in which 1.8 million voters requested vote-by-mail ballots, and data from the general election, in which voters mailed back more than 2. 6 million ballots that were counted. " Quote taken from [URL]https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9787630390?fbclid=IwAR0Ai01_WNTZn-CIXQFJHNvp0r2-Kvvr1ERyMHZcXfFfgHvWfDQNVOcVI0I[/URL].[/QUOTE]It's amazing how these morons whine about "big tech" and CNN then jump on any viral nonsense that shows up in their social media like a kangaroo in heat.

[QUOTE=Beijing4987;2558907]The caning of Liz Cheney is cancel culture's ignominious hour. Disclaimer: I'm not a fan of either faction of the US one party system of the rich.[/QUOTE]She is elected by the state of Wyoming and her views don't represent Wyoming citizens. She should have been demoted and should be voted out entirely in 2022. That is life. You do a bad job and you get fired.