Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=FunFilled;1629468]Definitely its buyers market these days cause business is low, not enough tourist and every thing shutting down early. But I see one negative side of it also the.

Class of girls who use to go to clubs after finishing there work (Waitress in restaurants and Bars, support staff in restaurant, saloon girl, massage parlour girls.

Soapy girls) are out of market and business. These girls usually used to finish there work past midnight and then hit the after hours club around 2 just to make some easy money specially if they got off next day.

Second class of the girls who are out of market are 9-5 office going girls who used to go to party with there friends on weekend and once little drunk and horny.

They used to hit after hours club instead of going home and want to have some fun. Fun + money. Life can't be better.

And I miss those type of girls. Specially 5-9 office going girls on weekend.[/QUOTE]Could not agree with you more. Increased salaries throughout every sector in Thailand has pretty much killed the semi-pro or part-timer market. Thermae used to attract office gals who would head out a few times a month to supplement their small salaries. These gals were my bread and butter for years. Since they already made some money they could afford to be a bit choosy as far as who they went with. So you would normally have a horny fun gal! With higher wages they no longer need this extra money.

Even restaurant and shopping mall staff can now make a living on their salaries.

What's left? The pros who are either too lazy or not smart enough to do anything else.

Of course most of my younger friends (dudes in their 20's and early 30's) are not active in the P4 P scene here at all, rather opting for "regular" girls who are quite easy if you are young, decent looking, and have a bit of cash. Drawback is they are becoming more and more similar to Western chicks as far as expectations and level of maintenance. Certainly not what I moved here for.

The "scene" we so loved will continue to decline as the country develops. P4 P will get more expensive (hell dudes are already paying close to 100 USD for a ST when you add in the BF), less fun, and the gals in the biz will become less desirable. Combined with certain coming crackdowns on the biz, my guess is in another 10 years you will see two classes of working girl: high end and street girls. The middle ground that made being here so fun will continue to disappear. Hey, don't get me wrong, I think it is great that gals have more choices these days and don't have to work as prostitutes if they don't want to. But, sadly that greatly reduces our fun as hobbyists. For now, I just enjoy the oilies and the occasional FL.

[QUOTE=David2;1629605]Long wordy posts about prostitutes are EXACTLY why people read this forum. They help prepare us for upcoming trips, and give us valuable information about the latest trends in pricing, dining, hotels, transportation, and massage. I've been reading and contributing here for years, and although I wasn't blessed with the writing skills that some members have, I do try to post when I discover something valuable that may help other members.

There is a painless remedy for you reading these posts. Just ignore them.

And like my Momma used to say. If you don't have anything nice to say, just say nothing. Still very good advice.[/QUOTE]Absolutely right on target.

IMHO A mongering trip is all aspects of traveling, mongering, culture, cuisine and the friends you make in the process.

Guido88.

[QUOTE=Steve7777;1629471]Long wordy posts about prostitutes are just painful to read. [/QUOTE]I find long wordy reports that are not about the girl or the monger place, rather touristy experiences in Thailand, are the most boring reports. E. g. What he had for breakfast or booking the Hotel, travelling from the airport, etc. Would be great if the rambling reports not about the girls were in a special thread. However we do have the right to just skim over them or avoid reading them altogether, so if it entertains the bored people, why not?

Anyway, I encourage people to use the General Thread for stuff not really about mongering in Bangkok, or keep it fairly brief.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1629706]Could not agree with you more. Increased salaries throughout every sector in Thailand has pretty much killed the semi-pro or part-timer market. Thermae used to attract office gals who would head out a few times a month to supplement their small salaries. [/QUOTE]I know this report will make some guys angry. I don't care.

Taking freelancer girls is a risk. I hardly ever see stunning ones. A few good looking ones spotted in Nana car park, but I hardly ever go there. Never really saw a stunner in Beergarten however only went a limited number of times. I don't have time and energy to do discos much. Maybe Bangkok Beat is a good option for me.Convenient and small and not too dark.

Being a free lancer or indeed a working girl is quite dangerous. There are significant numbers of cases of girls being beaten up or even murdered. So not getting paid is not the worst thing that can happen to a girl. The customer can seem charming at first.

I know of working girls that largely focus on their regular customers, and are reluctant to take a guy who they only just met. On of my very pretty bargirls, has a long list of regulars, and says she hardly takes on an unknown guy. She will know pretty much how long the guy will take for ST, how much HE will pay, etc. And be able to weigh up whether this customer is helping optimize her earnings per hour and per thrust. She is willing to take a very good customer for several days at a non-optimal rate, even though she knows she could make more money, since she will get some rest from the pounding.

Being able to be choosy and having too many customers is a good reason for a girl to work the bar instead of an Oily MP. She makes very good money indeed for her house building project. She controls how much pounding she has to take. She knows I am a little difficult, but maintains me as a regular, only because I am nice, do not pound forcefully, and always willing to fit into unusual time slots, and will give me long time on occasions when multiple STs are probably not a good bet. I have no illusions. She is a business woman, but can still let herself go on the bed. Her attitude is make money but still try to have some fun at times.

I lament that the prices in Oily MPs are largely stuck for many years, while others rejoice this. The problem is it gets more and more difficult to find pretty girls wanting to take an all day pounding in an MP. If they are stunning, surely they will be very busy, too busy. Oilies are great for guys who don't much care about the face, and can fuck almost anything. However its not as good as 7 or 8 years ago when I could find several very pretty top performers.

I used to do Cat from Mango who had a cute face, even if body not perfect. She used to tell me she disliked well over 50% of her regular customers. There were too many "psycho" like customers who wanted to do sick things to a girl. She left the scene not that long later, perhaps having found a sugar daddy, who knows.

I think over time, the better looking girls are migrating more to the bar scene, and so am I, as they can choose the customer, and make better money per period of pussy pounding. Sure the bar scene is too expensive, but I can take time to study girls carefully for long periods before choosing.

Obviously I am far more looks oriented than service oriented. When Angie was at Cherry, I did not care if the service was only mediocre, as the body was stunning and face pretty good. I also used to do Gaew at Pink, due to the looks and just average service. Bai Fern at Yoremichi was stunning and a hell of a lot of fun. Aor at Annies had a stunning body pre augmentation. These girls disappeared, and have been hard to replace. The Oily MPs don't really have much in the stunning department any more. I blame the prices being stuck for contributing to this problem. Its good that June has returned giving me another fairly good looking option, and a sure good time. There are some other options, but I don't really have any stunning Oily girl right now.

I hear that places start to charge extra for anal as a way for girl to make increased money. This is understandable.

There was a stunning girl Nat at Crazy House with amazing high tits that defied gravity but no silicone. Body was a 10 and face 9. Reported to have been a bi-sexual with a Tom girlfriend. Was quite good on the bed. Unfortunately she disappeared too. I would be happy to pay extra for her every time.

For me it becomes meaningless to fuck plain looking girls (outside the top 5% and I don't even waste time to do them for free any more. Girls with both fake noses and sillies are a dime a dozen.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1629795]I know this report will make some guys angry. I don't care.

Taking freelancer girls is a risk. I hardly ever see stunning ones. A few good looking ones spotted in Nana car park, but I hardly ever go there. Never really saw a stunner in Beergarten however only went a limited number of times. I don't have time and energy to do discos much. Maybe Bangkok Beat is a good option for me.Convenient and small and not too dark.

Being a free lancer or indeed a working girl is quite dangerous. There are significant numbers of cases of girls being beaten up or even murdered. So not getting paid is not the worst thing that can happen to a girl. The customer can seem charming at first.

I know of working girls that largely focus on their regular customers, and are reluctant to take a guy who they only just met. On of my very pretty bargirls, has a long list of regulars, and says she hardly takes on an unknown guy. She will know pretty much how long the guy will take for ST, how much HE will pay, etc. And be able to weigh up whether this customer is helping optimize her earnings per hour and per thrust. She is willing to take a very good customer for several days at a non-optimal rate, even though she knows she could make more money, since she will get some rest from the pounding.

Being able to be choosy and having too many customers is a good reason for a girl to work the bar instead of an Oily MP. She makes very good money indeed for her house building project. She controls how much pounding she has to take. She knows I am a little difficult, but maintains me as a regular, only because I am nice, do not pound forcefully, and always willing to fit into unusual time slots, and will give me long time on occasions when multiple STs are probably not a good bet. I have no illusions. She is a business woman, but can still let herself go on the bed. Her attitude is make money but still try to have some fun at times.

I lament that the prices in Oily MPs are largely stuck for many years, while others rejoice this. The problem is it gets more and more difficult to find pretty girls wanting to take an all day pounding in an MP. If they are stunning, surely they will be very busy, too busy. Oilies are great for guys who don't much care about the face, and can fuck almost anything. However its not as good as 7 or 8 years ago when I could find several very pretty top performers.

I used to do Cat from Mango who had a cute face, even if body not perfect. She used to tell me she disliked well over 50% of her regular customers. There were too many "psycho" like customers who wanted to do sick things to a girl. She left the scene not that long later, perhaps having found a sugar daddy, who knows.

I think over time, the better looking girls are migrating more to the bar scene, and so am I, as they can choose the customer, and make better money per period of pussy pounding. Sure the bar scene is too expensive, but I can take time to study girls carefully for long periods before choosing.

Obviously I am far more looks oriented than service oriented. When Angie was at Cherry, I did not care if the service was only mediocre, as the body was stunning and face pretty good. I also used to do Gaew at Pink, due to the looks and just average service. Bai Fern at Yoremichi was stunning and a hell of a lot of fun. Aor at Annies had a stunning body pre augmentation. These girls disappeared, and have been hard to replace. The Oily MPs don't really have much in the stunning department any more. I blame the prices being stuck for contributing to this problem. Its good that June has returned giving me another fairly good looking option, and a sure good time. There are some other options, but I don't really have any stunning Oily girl right now.

I hear that places start to charge extra for anal as a way for girl to make increased money. This is understandable.

There was a stunning girl Nat at Crazy House with amazing high tits that defied gravity but no silicone. Body was a 10 and face 9. Reported to have been a bi-sexual with a Tom girlfriend. Was quite good on the bed. Unfortunately she disappeared too. I would be happy to pay extra for her every time.

For me it becomes meaningless to fuck plain looking girls (outside the top 5% and I don't even waste time to do them for free any more. Girls with both fake noses and sillies are a dime a dozen.[/QUOTE]Guess I have gone the other way as I age. I will take a 7 who performs like a 10 over a 10 that performs like a 7. I have very little use for gals that don't perfect their skill set.

I will say that the "looks" level at the PSE oilies has been on the decline for a couple of years now. No doubt about it. That is because they can make more for doing less in other places. Sadly most punters accept what they get. If a gal does not perform they pay her the money and go on about it and she has learned that she does not have to provide good service.

Gogos, meh, overpriced weak drinks and all the annoying young coyote dancers who think they are a great gift to the world. No way I would pay over 100 USD for the privilege of a ST with them. Doubt they would come even close to what I expect performance wise. Now if they performed like Macau sauna gals I would gladly pay that. But paying a lot more for less just does not sit well with me.

Truth be told 15 years ago many of the gogo gals looked every bit as good as most coyotes do now. All the coyote thing has done is add another level of expense.

Enjoy it while it lasts, because sooner than you think the gals in the gogos will be making enough money dancing and will not have to go with customers at all. Some of the long time bar owners I know see this as the future. Lap dancing bars like the US.

Again, it is all about the economy and salaries in Thailand. The FL scene was amazing here after the crash until the mid-'00's. I hardly ever took a full time P4 P gal back then. Now I rarely take a FL gal due to huge disappointments over the past few years. They don't want to kiss, don't want to be fingered, want to blow me with a condom, don't want to be eaten, etc. And when I pop up, call off the session, and get dressed, and leave 'them 100 baht they look so confused. I explain to them that I expect sex like in a porno or like with their boyfriend and they look completely dumbfounded. I am the one who is amazed. Dudes actually accept this service and pay for it? Luckily I still have a few oily gals that are ok to look at and perform like nymphomaniac porn stars. They will tell you stories about their sexual exploits, finger themselves in all holes, love to be rimmed and to rim, and seem to live for down and dirty sex. My kind of gal. I will add that most of these gals are late 20s and up. The younger ones just have not hit their sexual stride. Hey, I love looking at those early 20 gals but have found most to be pretty useless between the sheets. Last thing I want to do is train. I want a very experienced gal.

Scenes change, and you are getting less service for more money planet wide. It is not just a phenom with the Thai P4 P scene. The above mentioned saunas are one of the few places that take the time to train their gals and where you will get expert service and great looks.

So glad I was able to experience the end of the golden era here and in Cambo. It was really fun. Guess that is one of the main elements missing from the scene now. The fun. Your paragraph about baht per thrust just hammers that point home. Every night used to be a party; whether in gogos, Thermae, or Nana Disco. Gals would go out, party, and most nights make 1k. Now it is all about business. And it becomes work for the punter as well.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1629819]Guess I have gone the other way as I age. I will take a 7 who performs like a 10 over a 10 that performs like a 7. I have very little use for gals that don't perfect their skill set.[/QUOTE]I agree here as I hold attitude / performance twice as important as looks. Mathematically it looks like this:

Looks 10 and performance 7: ((10 x1)+(7*2))/3 = 8 overall.

Looks 7 and performance 10: ((7 x1)+(10 x2))/3 = 9 overall.

SL.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1629795]I know this report will make some guys angry. I don't care.

Taking freelancer girls is a risk. I hardly ever see stunning ones. A few good looking ones spotted in Nana car park, but I hardly ever go there. Never really saw a stunner in Beergarten however only went a limited number of times. I don't have time and energy to do discos much. Maybe Bangkok Beat is a good option for me.Convenient and small and not too dark.

Being a free lancer or indeed a working girl is quite dangerous. There are significant numbers of cases of girls being beaten up or even murdered. So not getting paid is not the worst thing that can happen to a girl. The customer can seem charming at first.

I know of working girls that largely focus on their regular customers, and are reluctant to take a guy who they only just met. On of my very pretty bargirls, has a long list of regulars, and says she hardly takes on an unknown guy. She will know pretty much how long the guy will take for ST, how much HE will pay, etc. And be able to weigh up whether this customer is helping optimize her earnings per hour and per thrust. She is willing to take a very good customer for several days at a non-optimal rate, even though she knows she could make more money, since she will get some rest from the pounding..[/QUOTE]Suzies Wongs girls must be in the bottom 5% as far as looks go. Maybe its the lighting?

[QUOTE=Sunlover2;1629856]I agree here as I hold attitude / performance twice as important as looks. Mathematically it looks like this:

Looks 10 and performance 7: ((10 x1)+(7*2))/3 = 8 overall.

Looks 7 and performance 10: ((7 x1)+(10 x2))/3 = 9 overall.

SL.[/QUOTE]10's don't perform anywhere near a 7. And where are you finding 10's in the 1st place. Even 7's are har to find.

Lots of 4's, 5's, and 6's!

[QUOTE=Sunlover2;1629856]I agree here as I hold attitude / performance twice as important as looks. Mathematically it looks like this:

Looks 10 and performance 7: ((10 x1)+(7*2))/3 = 8 overall.

Looks 7 and performance 10: ((7 x1)+(10 x2))/3 = 9 overall.

SL.[/QUOTE]Spot on. Love your math sir!

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1629795]I know this report will make some guys angry. I don't care.
Taking freelancer girls is a risk. I hardly ever see stunning ones. A few good looking ones spotted in Nana car park, but I hardly ever go there. Never really saw a stunner in Beergarten however only went a limited number of times. I don't have time and energy to do discos much. Maybe Bangkok Beat is a good option for me.Convenient and small and not too dark.........................[/QUOTE]Syzygies, in all my years of having fun in LOS, I have never taken a girl from gogo places and very few from a bar. In fact, never been inside a gogo place, because the first one I tried to go into, turned me away. I was not farang enough. So that kind of pissed me off. I never had an issue with FLs and in fact quite a few of them became long time friends. A few from Thermae and none from Nana.

As part of a larger trip I allowed myself a couple of days in BKK as its always fun and you just never know what will happen.

Arrived in hotel on soi 24 at 1 am, and feeling thirsty, I needed a beer. Walked to 7-11 and the beer freezer is locked. Thanks new government. Decided against replying to the mass of " people nearby" who were contacting me on wechat as most seemed to be ladyboys. Headed for bed alone.

Next day, bright and fresh, got my supplies of kamaga and went in search of happiness.

Walked up and down the small street of massage places between soi 24 and soi 26. Saw an interesting face, that wasnt pretty but was expressive.

Opted for a 90 minute session that was in a nice secluded upper floor area far way from anyone else.

The girl I chose had great English and as we talked it turned out she had back packed in Laos and Myanmar and was interesting with good english.

Eventually there was some accidental touching and I assured her, that all was good. A kiss or three followed, some nipple play by me bought about some gasps from her, and she responded with some great ball kissing and then one of my top 3 blow jobs ever. It was soo good. Gave a tip and advised said lady I would be back at 1 am to take her home. She was fine with that.

I had a wechat date arranged with a girl working in a Sukhumvit hotel, but couldn't find her in Asok as planned so was fine to do the normal Cowboy Nana routine.

Went back to the soi to meet the massage girl at about 1245. Some very large rats running around there, and a few boys on bikes picking up their ladies who had done a shift in the more japanese mps.

Took lady home and had a great blow again and a happy HJ in the morning. She was on period at the time.

As we had got on really well, with lots of laughter and smiles and great blow jobs (the porn star type, where she looks intensely in your eye as she's slurping and ball squeezing) I asked her on the spur of moment if she would like to join me in Pattaya a week later. She agreed. Taking a girl to Pattaya? Coals to Newcastle. Read on in PP and Pattaya section.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1629786]I find long wordy reports that are not about the girl or the monger place, rather touristy experiences in Thailand, are the most boring reports. E. g. What he had for breakfast or booking the Hotel, travelling from the airport, etc. Would be great if the rambling reports not about the girls were in a special thread. However we do have the right to just skim over them or avoid reading them altogether, so if it entertains the bored people, why not?

Anyway, I encourage people to use the General Thread for stuff not really about mongering in Bangkok, or keep it fairly brief.[/QUOTE]Syzygies.

With all due respect.

What you find boring may be of help / interest to others. None of us are in the position to direct other posters on what to post, where to post nor dictate proper post size & approved content.

If a post is inappropriate Jackson will deal with it. You bring a wealth of mongering related experience. It's our loss you choose not share more of your combined experiences.

Guido88.

Anyone know why the dear old Daily Mail (English newspaper) has been banned in Thailand. Well at least the online version has as of my last trip.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1630139]Anyone know why the dear old Daily Mail (English newspaper) has been banned in Thailand. Well at least the online version has as of my last trip.[/QUOTE]A few months ago the Daily Mail included a YouTube video related to Thailand that was unacceptable and has been blocked since.

[QUOTE=Guido88;1630114]Syzygies.

With all due respect.

What you find boring may be of help / interest to others. None of us are in the position to direct other posters on what to post, where to post nor dictate proper post size & approved content.

Guido88.[/QUOTE]I agree with you. I don't dictate anything. I merely suggest the forum would be better if non monger reports were in the general thread, so that people who don't want them don't have to go over them.

Also I just state what bores me. Its like casting a vote. I know it doesn't bore everyone. Others are welcome to say they love that touristy stuff.

So no need to be concerned about me giving my opinion. Everyone can give an opinion. We will never have everyone having the same view.