Pattaya Reports

I've been told via Line by one Lady I met in NEP that she has covid19. Says she came down with it 10 days ago now, which is a bit over a week since I left BKK and I haven't had any symptoms. Not much more detail other than she's getting better slowly.

Don't know if for real, hypochondriac or fishing for sympathy moneys.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2438500]A question for anyone on the ground in Thailand or in regular communication with girls and service workers who dealt directly with tourists over the past couple of months leading up to the lockdown:

Does anyone know someone in Thailand among those girls and service workers who HAS Covid-19 or is sick enough to possibly have it without the certainty of being tested?

I don't know of anyone who fits that description.

Moreover, I see the same homeless and handicapped beggars sitting in the same spots with money landing in their cups that they must remove and count at some points several times a day. Money that must have been passing through hands, pockets, in and out of purses and wallets of every possible ethnic and racial group of tourists from all over the world for months now. And they don't seem to be the least bit slowed down by a serious, crippling malady requiring hospitalization or even a night off from the job.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=XXL;2439277]The virtue-signalling is getting oppressive. You get looked askance if not wearing a mask, even in situations where having a mask on is just plain dumb. There is a spiel with heat guns at entrances. How many of those toys ever detected a single positive?. They should get their act in order with the sanitiser gels instead. Many gels are fake. The smells of ethanol or rubbing alcohol are unmistakable at the concentrations needed. Those gels only smell nice and make your hands sticky.

Yesterday an asshole (not Thai) took me to task in the elevator. He bursted out "ever heard of Corona!?", pointing at the zombie mask plastered over his ugly face. Moron!

The holier-than-you-you're-infecting-me attitude goes up a notch with every day that goes by. I hope the government here sticks to their single digit dead count.[/QUOTE]I reported my opinion earlier if the countries in the West can't get a handle on things when it comes to the leaders of this country who can't even fix a pothole " God help Us " each day something new comes up it seem like the Thai leaders are watching Fox news all the interviews with the experts then presenting the same ideas as if they know what they are doing?

At best they are grasping for straws the best I can say is they are trying that trying is filled with inconsistency! I live on the Darkside and what is being mandated is like day and night how it is applied in town. The last week more and more temperature checks since I travel on a motorbike by the time I get to a place like Big see extra I'm thinking I must be overheating sweating like a pig with all the talk about Virus half the time I feel sick? I get in line check my temperature one day I was like 34, I was thinking I'm fucking dead? The readings are all over the place and the checking is inconsistent at best they decided to use one entrance while the others are wide open. Just last week a lady was in front of me she was over the standard the lady just turn her away. I ask the lady isn't there something in place for this you can't just let her walk away she looked at me with disgust! I seriously doubt any of these checkers have any training or idea as to what to do? Personally, I haven't seen anything as to who to call where to actually go if you think you might have it, on paper, it all looks good but in real practice?

A month ago a big bottle of gel at Facino it was 85 baht for a time you couldn't even get one if you did it was 300 baht, last week locally on the Darkside there was a run on eggs and pork, locally market vendor were charging double. Today, I went by the market to walk around looking for dinner, they must have gotten a huge shipment the free illegal market is in full effect. Many of the booths were selling masks, never seen so many being available you can now get them with Nike, UnderAmor, Addidas logos many others were selling fashionable ones you can now make a fashion statement? When it came to Alcohol hand gels bottles line up everywhere if you have 280-290 baht. There is no shortage today but whether they are up to standard it is anyone's guess.

Cross your fingers people have mercy!

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2439080]I had the feeling that most of their education on hygiene comes from their social media accounts (at least for the girls), I see them constantly sharing some weird stuff recommended for treatment of cancers or many other health issues or skin diseases.

The older ones are probably more educated in that matter because they mostly relate on what the old style pharmacist tells them (we can still find a few pharmacists like that, not big branches that only sells western stuffs, but the ones that really try to find a cure to their patients where the pharmacist is a bit like an old Chinese doc).

LBM, when I read your posts I can feel your pain sometimes, living among them.

Most of your posts are really spot on when it comes to Thai psychology or comportment, your words really reflect some of my past experiences.

Although the issue of always having the same related conversation as if we never discussed it before comes also a lot in my own circles so it's not only typical to Thais.[/QUOTE]We take for granted taught to us in the West that is " Critical Thinking " almost every expert interior or exterior of Thailand knows it is missing. As a 1st generation Chinese American I know exactly what you are talking in reference to those old Chinese type pharmacy more herbal than anything else. My mother who just turned 102 from China no education used a lot of those remedies while I was growing up still remember her private closet full of stuff but even the Chinese had their drawbacks in thinking.

I remember one of my friend's wife she was diagnosed with a brain tumor her mother told her there was this Chinese medicine that helped with a friend of a friend so she tried it thereafter she got sick it was determined it had toxin that damaged her liver so she had to hold off on the surgery luckily things turn out okay On a closer note, my Thai wife coming off cancer treatment years back purchased the " magic mushroom " bullshit from China being sold in a local market near the house I remember that stuff being touted in the USA In the Chinese community in the late 80's the FDA put an end to that shit ASAP. I was just returning from a visit to the USA When I return saw she was sick as a dog thought relapse but found out she drank the stuff and took ill immediately. Not going to tell you what I did to the vendor who sold it.

Today even with the Internet the youth of Thailand seem no better zero critical thinking I see it in my daughter-in-law who is academically smart but socially stupid as they come. The more time my son spends with her the more he is becoming like her. Everything is brand name you see on T.V. or the Internet can't think for themselves follow like dogs and monkeys. Sure I too have people in my circle the difference how I see it is they had the opportunity of critical thinking taught to them they choose not to use it because they can't get past their ego and old age stubbornness even with that said you can at least sit and lay into them for being stupid Thais don't have the privilege they have been brainwashed " the more patriotic the more stupid " which translate into the excuse they love to use " this is thailand " you can't even have a simple conversation without them losing face once that happens they just shut down they go through life without criticism as we know that is how you learn at times.

Yes, today it is only pain before it was worse close to hate but I realized one day I couldn't continue feeling and doing what I was doing if something had happened to me there wasn't going to be anyone to raise my son so I had to reinvent myself leave my ego at the border and if that meant kissing some ass to make it happen I would. It hasn't been easy but things are better today but the pain is pushed down and expressed here at times. Funny on some other threads my words and feeling are considered bashing of Thais I wish there were more positive than negatives and I wish what I've gone through and experience no one will ever have to experience themselves. The reason my brother and others keep telling me I should write a book but as you can see that isn't going to happen.

I've tried many times to write some of my experiences here in Thailand it becomes so long never have enough time and don't know how to save it get timed out and it all gets erased.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2439398]Snip. I've tried many times to write some of my experiences here in Thailand it becomes so long never have enough time and don't know how to save it get timed out and it all gets erased.[/QUOTE]Write it in a program or app outside of ISG and then copy and paste it into ISG.

[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2439410]Write it in a program or app outside of ISG and then copy and paste it into ISG.[/QUOTE]Thanks, that is what I'm finding out, told to download Google Docs?

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2439538]Thanks, that is what I'm finding out, told to download Google Docs?[/QUOTE]I use WPS Office (free download) but Google Docs should be fine too.

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2439398]
I've tried many times to write some of my experiences here in Thailand it becomes so long never have enough time and don't know how to save it get timed out and it all gets erased.[/QUOTE]Check the box next to 'Remember me?' when you login and you won't get timed out. Or not that fast anyway. As an extra precaution you can copy the text you are writing to the clip board (using ctrl-c) every now and then, so it's not lost in case you do get timed out.

[URL]https://thepattayanews.com/2020/04/03/chonburi-releases-official-order-with-list-of-new-closures-and-restrictions-including-hotels-and-beaches/[/URL]

The Chonburi Governor has announced a further list of closures effective immediately. First on the list is "all hotels" including similar businesses such as guesthouses and bed & breakfasts. There is an exception "If a hotel still has guests, they must inform the local jurisdiction office within three business days or if they wish to stay open for current guests. ".

The article states that the local hotel association had pushed for the closure order as staff were not entitled to Social Security benefits if hotels shut without a Government order (e. G. Due to low occupancy levels). Unsaid is the wish to prevent an influx of people seeking to escape areas where the virus is more widespread (particularly Phuket and Bangkok), thus bringing possible infection with them to a province where incidence has been mercifully low thus far.

My hotel informs me that they are making the application to remain open for existing guests, but one of the conditions will be no new bookings or check-ins.

For anyone, like me, holed up in a Pattaya (or elsewhere in Chonburi Province) hotel I STRONGLY recommend that you check the situation with your hotel management. I mean Management, the Receptionist may not be aware of the situation. Also ask that they keep you updated on developments and check with them regularly.

Establishments with low occupancy may seize the chance to close and lay off staff because it is more economical to do so than staying open for few guests, turfing remaining customers out at just the time when none of the hotels remaining are allowed to take them in.

Other closures include all beaches and tattoo / body piercing parlours. I guess I shall have to wait a while to get my Prince Albert done!

Here is an excellent map of Covid-19 cases in Thailand.

[URL]https://covidtracker.5lab.co/[/URL]

Here is an article from the New England Journal of Medicine.

Aerosol and Surface Stability of SARS-CoV-2 as Compared with SARS-CoV-1.
[URL]https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2004973[/URL]

Here is another article. I can't find the medical article for this piece of information. I had seen it yesterday.

You may be able to spread coronavirus just by breathing, new report finds.
[URL]https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020...w-report-finds[/URL]

Please stay home everyone and keep Thailand safe. The less people moving around will keep the curve low. It has gotten dire in America. Personal friends in NYC say it is awful.
Wear a mask!! At least you have them in Thailand.

[QUOTE=AmPervert;2440041]Here is an excellent map of Covid-19 cases in Thailand.

[URL]https://covidtracker.5lab.co/[/URL][/QUOTE]If I am reading the map correctly only 2 people in Pattaya have the virus and there are 4 places in and around Pattaya a person with the virus went to.

My friend lives in a village of 7000 people outside of NYC and there are 28 confirmed COVID cases there. Thailand has this virus under control!

[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2440008]The Virus has taken the front stage before people living here were concern with the drought throughout Thailand. Here in Pattaya, it was already getting bad on the Darkside several of the large lakes were drying up now they are near completion. [/QUOTE]

Is this just a problem on the Dark Side because I have heard nothing from the few gogo girls I know who are still in Pattaya. I'm sure I would have heard something if the gogo girls I know were not able to shower!

[QUOTE=AmPervert;2440041]Please stay home everyone and keep Thailand safe. The less people moving around will keep the curve low. It has gotten dire in America. Personal friends in NYC say it is awful.
Wear a mask!! At least you have them in Thailand.[/QUOTE]My ring doorbell just went off and it was my dad at my house in the States. He had a bandana around his nose and mouth. I called him on whatsapp and told him how they made me buy a mask before going into the store the other day. My stepmom said at least we have them over here in Thailand.

As of now there is nothing to go out to except getting food to bring back home. Pattaya is a ghost town. Everything not food related is shut down. Even in Big see, if it is not food related they have the sections blocked off. A lot of places that were bars, restaurants, or massage parlors are even empty of furnishings now.

People are still gathering in groups to eat and drink though; or at least they are outside where I live. They say well it is only friends. And that is the exact reason the curfew started today. Don't know if I can preach about it because I do have a chick come stay every other day. Most of the chicks that I know have gone back home and the ones still here are scared to come out, but there are still plenty on Thai Friendly and Tinder.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2440048]If I am reading the map correctly only 2 people in Pattaya have the virus and there are 4 places in and around Pattaya a person with the virus went to.

My friend lives in a village of 7000 people outside of NYC and there are 28 confirmed COVID cases there. Thailand has this virus under control!.[/QUOTE]The important point is how many tests they do. Until now they found only 3 (2 some hours ago), but nobody knows, how many unknown are there already. I think they have no control. They are just blind.

Same in the US: The number was long time very low because of low number of tests. If you start acting when the number of COVID patients in hospital increases, it's already too late because of the long incubation period and high infection rate of the virus.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2440048]Is this just a problem on the Dark Side because I have heard nothing from the few gogo girls I know who are still in Pattaya. I'm sure I would have heard something if the gogo girls I know were not able to shower![/QUOTE]It is everywhere. There is a water shortage. I went down to wash clothes the other day and all the machines were off. My landlord said something about the city turning off the water or that he was supposed to turn it off at certain times due to the shortage. He turned the water and the machines back on for me. As far as inside, it has not stopped running though.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2438798]So the next day I sent her a message asking about her mom. She said she was ready when I was. She gave me her mom's whatsapp. I started communicating with the mom. I think she does not write English well, but she speaks it. So she wanted to talk on video. It appeared she was in some type of office. I really thought it was like a dry cleaner at first.

She asked me how much I would give her and I told her 1000 Long Time. She said what about for Short Time. I told her that I do not do ST, but 500ST. She said it was not enough. She said 700ST and 1000 LT. Okay. Come over for LT then. She had me pick her up on Pattaya Klang. I told her I would arrive in 10 minutes. When I arrived I sent her a message and she said she would be out in 10 minutes. Oh no the fuck you will not. I am not waiting here 10 minutes when I already told you when I would arrive. She said okay 5 minutes. I said negative. She said I will be right out now then. I know the fuck you will.[/QUOTE]After living a handful of years in Thailand, I unfortunately had to leave. Now I live through Mr. Enternational.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2440058]My ring doorbell just went off and it was my dad at my house in the States. He had a bandana around his nose and mouth. I called him on whatsapp and told him how they made me buy a mask before going into the store the other day. My stepmom said at least we have them over here in Thailand.

As of now there is nothing to go out to except getting food to bring back home. Pattaya is a ghost town. Everything not food related is shut down. Even in Big see, if it is not food related they have the sections blocked off. A lot of places that were bars, restaurants, or massage parlors are even empty of furnishings now.

People are still gathering in groups to eat and drink though; or at least they are outside where I live. They say well it is only friends. And that is the exact reason the curfew started today. Don't know if I can preach about it because I do have a chick come stay every other day. Most of the chicks that I know have gone back home and the ones still here are scared to come out, but there are still plenty on Thai Friendly and Tinder.[/QUOTE]Mr. E,

You got people who will use stats but as I noted in past reports the government leaders are grasping for straws although they are doing the best they can under the conditions. Many of the leaders and experts have very little expertise in their field their jobs were given to them due to family Thais, they are all part of the swamp you have a government who believe to make government work there has to be corruption and telling a white lie is good for the people so when it comes to stats and charts I take it with a grain of salt. Thailand, an Asian country is no different than China, they come from the same school of thought " Art of War " deflect and lie.

I was wrong! I thought there would be a lot more places opened, I predicted there were be more massage, GC, sneaking around opened but no they have pretty much all closed down. Even the Darkside prior opened the rules seem to have kicked in mostly now take out. Things though are still inconsistent you can't buy a dustpan, garbage can, shoes, underwear at Big see, but you can at a local store. A week ago you couldn't find a mask or Alcohol gel, now they are everywhere even with sports logos on them.

The cat is away so the mouse will play? It has been a month I've been alone the family is stuck up in the farm it was decided everyone stay in place so been working on the house and playing a bit at night with my cousin who got stuck here since his flight was canceled by Eva 25th, of March. Prior to all this, I hooked up with a girl at Bacarra since the closure she has been freelancing with me and my cousins taking her to a Thai local resort for LT, but the other night before curfew I told her we need to stop since she was getting too close and when too close their real self comes out.

As for water, as you noted for some time it has been a problem, the first to know are usually those who live outside of town like me, people have no idea that Pattaya builds a lot of roads but have zero in facilities to save all the water from the rain, majority of it goes into the sea. Much of the water even in shortage is given so the hotels can operate but this year it is different much different. The general population is starting to complain water is now being turn off for days and like yesterday I myself was having a tough time buying it.