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Naked girls!
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Look, most girls in most Go Go's are not duable IMHO, although some girls may grow on you if you give them a chance because they possess warm winning personalities. It has always been that way. I went to my first BKK Go Go in 1989. I distinctly remember there were 2 stunners on the stage. I didn't give a fig about the rest of the 25 girls. I barfinned one of the 2 hot girls and she showed me a great time. So I consider a Go Go pretty good if I am attracted to say 15% of the girls. No, what am I saying? If a bar has 1 girl I like, I like that bar and will keep coming back, but in my book, a really good bar has to have at least 4 or 5 pretty girls each with good personalities in order to make the grade.[/QUOTE]I agree. You have it right. Suzi failed to have 4 or 5 at the moment, may have come close for someone not too picky. Many of the preferred girls missing. Suzi was definitely at its best quite a while back when Sheba merged with Suzi Wong. Crazy House would have them for looks, but on the bed, I don't know. Some of the best girls from there are also currently missing.
I can go to Rainbow 4 (and did not that long ago), and fail to find 4 or 5 such girls, too. Some girls have pretty faces. Some have a good hot body. Some have neither, or wrecked by a bad nose job or tit job. Very few have both the face and the body. I don't confuse youth with beauty. No girl was really grabbing my attention last time for face, body, and personality, even if the average standard of looks was okay I can see that a guy who doesn't mind nose jobs and tit jobs will like R4, Baccara, Sharks, etc. But not for me. Crazy House has relatively little in nose and tit jobs. Mostly natural slim girls. Doll House is a crap bar but does have one or two cute fuckable girls, in amongst the fugglies. Same for Long Gun, etc. There are some stunning girls coming from various bars, its just that I usually end up the naked bars.
Above all, it makes a large difference to be to be able to see a girl naked, before choosing. No nasty shocks about how the body looks, when the gear comes off. Then you get to talk to girls for significant time before choosing, not like at an Oily. This is also critical to making a good choice for personality. Can also see how she will kiss by sneaking one in the bar. Can feel up her tits too just to be sure you are satisfied. The girl can feel your dick if she wants to make sure its not too large.
If girls at Oilies all had to Parade around naked, or wear only the tightest bodysuit or bikini, I would be happy. LOL. Actually I don't like to see girls wearing a bra. Tulip leotards were good in the old days. At Soapies its very tough to choose girls that are seated, as cannot see the bodies properly. I prefer to pick girls that have just walked out, as in standing position I can assess them better.
My Thai GF has a excellent curvy body and pretty good face, and is a very nice fuck too, just that its not quite frequent enough and she is no BBBJ expert. However its of little interest to go fuck someone no where near her standard. I can put up with small tits as long as not ugly, but I never choose an ugly nose or a mediocre ass. Those two are critical, but ass can only be checked properly when girl is naked. What a hassle this is.
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[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1630808]So in the "places to avoid" thread for Thailand maybe you should just put one word. Thailand.
When you've got KFC on every corner & HIV is now no longer plaquing LOS like 15 years ago, that means the girls are not going to be looking as deathly skinny anymore. It also means every time you had sex way back then you were flirting with the casket maker, like doing it with crack heroin injecting ladies of the street in 2014. Are you sure you want to go back to that?
As a close alternative to LOS of the 1990's but with much safer sex, I'd suggest Vietnam, a country that is about 2 decades behind Siam modernization, is not full of fast food joints, poorer than Thailand, & with hotter women.[/QUOTE]Spot on for me too. I haven't been mongering in Thailand anymore for over 2 years (overpriced non service as a rule with exceptions).
I Just go there to see my dentist.
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[QUOTE=Tiger888;1630859]Spot on for me too. I haven't been mongering in Thailand anymore for over 2 years (overpriced non service as a rule with exceptions).
I Just go there to see my dentist.[/QUOTE]Not sure why you even read the Thailand threads. HE was being satirical I think. So saying HE is spot on is sort of funny. I don't know why the forum software insists that "he" must be capitalised.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1630858]I agree. You have it right. Suzi failed to have 4 or 5 at the moment, may have come close for someone not too picky. Many of the preferred girls missing. Suzi was definitely at its best quite a while back when Sheba merged with Suzi Wong. Crazy House would have them for looks, but on the bed, I don't know. Some of the best girls from there are also currently missing.
I can go to Rainbow 4 (and did not that long ago), and fail to find 4 or 5 such girls, too. Some girls have pretty faces. Some have a good hot body. Some have neither, or wrecked by a bad nose job or tit job. Very few have both the face and the body. I don't confuse youth with beauty. No girl was really grabbing my attention last time for face, body, and personality, even if the average standard of looks was okay I can see that a guy who doesn't mind nose jobs and tit jobs will like R4, Baccara, Sharks, etc. But not for me. Crazy House has relatively little in nose and tit jobs. Mostly natural slim girls. Doll House is a crap bar but does have one or two cute fuckable girls, in amongst the fugglies. Same for Long Gun, etc. There are some stunning girls coming from various bars, its just that I usually end up the naked bars.
Above all, it makes a large difference to be to be able to see a girl naked, before choosing. No nasty shocks about how the body looks, when the gear comes off. Then you get to talk to girls for significant time before choosing, not like at an Oily. This is also critical to making a good choice for personality. Can also see how she will kiss by sneaking one in the bar. Can feel up her tits too just to be sure you are satisfied. The girl can feel your dick if she wants to make sure its not too large.
If girls at Oilies all had to Parade around naked, or wear only the tightest bodysuit or bikini, I would be happy. LOL. Actually I don't like to see girls wearing a bra. Tulip leotards were good in the old days. At Soapies its very tough to choose girls that are seated, as cannot see the bodies properly. I prefer to pick girls that have just walked out, as in standing position I can assess them better.
My Thai GF has a excellent curvy body and pretty good face, and is a very nice fuck too, just that its not quite frequent enough and she is no BBBJ expert. However its of little interest to go fuck someone no where near her standard. I can put up with small tits as long as not ugly, but I never choose an ugly nose or a mediocre ass. Those two are critical, but ass can only be checked properly when girl is naked. What a hassle this is.[/QUOTE]My issue with most gogo and most working girls these days is one thing; the majority look way too "jungle" to me. By jungle I mean that hard almost simian Isaan look. High cheekbones, dark skin, big mouth, and what appears to be 64 teeth. Under the "gogo lights" with makeup many of these flaws are covered up. But get them back under regular light and take off that makeup and whoops, different gal.
In the oilies most of the gals have a lighter skin and look well, quite a bit less simian. Also I find the oily girls to be far better in the manners department. Many gogo gals treat customers rudely and with contempt, but of course without the customers even knowing it. The gals are constantly taking the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] out of customers in gogos. It is actually funny to watch, even funnier if you understand a bit of Isaan. In oilies and soapies you are treated with a bit of respect. And yes, that does make a difference to me.
But yes, I would love to see gals with looks like you see in Macau saunas in oilies.
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Downtrend
Reading past posts from Thailand my expectations are downgrading.
I'd choose Thailand (from what I have heard) only to have girls who are skinny / slim / petite. You name it. But if, as I read 95%, of those are fat and ugly then I guess I would not try Thailand, not even for this first time I was going, but will go back to Cambodia again.
Cheers
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We chat warning
For some of the guys using we chat listen to this story and then beware. Was in the mood for some strange and started playing we chat. No time to chat it up so there are always a few ladies who are very blunt about what they want. For example business only or even saying call girl or escort. One of the girls who was advertising escort replied to me right away. We negotiated our deal and time for the next evening. The next night I was late getting home because of traffic so I suggested we postpone until the next night. She got very pushy all of a sudden about the name of my condo or hotel. It got so annoying to the point I just gave her a fake name of of my condo. I then said we will meet tomorrow. What does this crazy girl do? She tells me she is on her way and will wait in the lobby. I tell her I will be very late and not to go. I then continue driving and ignore my phone. I arrive to my condo about 1130 and check my phone. This crazy girl has gone to the lobby of the fake condo name I have her. She tells me she thinks I am there. She says let her in. She says she has showed my photo to security and he says I am home LOL. I say you are crazy. Then she shows me a photo of a policemen in the same building and threatens me with him. Policemen even sends voice message on we chat to me. Anyways it is clearly a scam where this fake or real cop will try to extort money from you so beware. She was so stupid to send me her photos and the cops so I have my ass covered. But I am sure many others fell for her game and paid big at their condo.
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Crazy House!
Love this place! I have been 2 times and always picked a pure porn star for LT. LT is 4000 but you can get them down to 3000 if it is near closing. Number 36, and 83 are stunners with huge tits! These girls are easy going and don't push for condoms if that's your thing.
Enjoy!
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Returning
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1630876]My issue with most gogo and most working girls these days is one thing; the majority look way too "jungle" to me. By jungle I mean that hard almost simian Isaan look. High cheekbones, dark skin, big mouth, .[/QUOTE]You are just describing looks I like. I haven't been in Thailand for 6 years, but will return next week. Mostly travelling with family, but caqn travel up to 5 days alone. Am really courious if the scene has really deterioted. I first visited Thailand in 91 and can't say that 2008 was worse. Even then everybody was talking about the good old times. I will give you my comments on 2014.
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[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1631024]Love this place! I have been 2 times and always picked a pure porn star for LT. LT is 4000 but you can get them down to 3000 if it is near closing. Number 36, and 83 are stunners with huge tits! These girls are easy going and don't push for condoms if that's your thing.
Enjoy![/QUOTE]Very low price for long time. But the risk is higher also. Buyer beware of girls who don't insist on condoms.
I'd pass if it were free.
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[QUOTE=Abagneil;1630943]Reading past posts from Thailand my expectations are downgrading.
I'd choose Thailand (from what I have heard) only to have girls who are skinny / slim / petite. You name it. But if, as I read 95%, of those are fat and ugly then I guess I would not try Thailand, not even for this first time I was going, but will go back to Cambodia again.[/QUOTE]Camdodia might be a better bet for skinny. Higher HIV rates, poorer, so less well fed & more malnourished, all helps in that regard.
OTOH I'm guessing they're a bit more infiltrated by fast food businesses than Vietnam.
Nevertheless I found my dream slim petite girl at the NPL a couple times recently. Never found one that hot before in 7 years.
It always surprises me at the 20 ish stunners who are there waiting, waiting, waiting, with no one scooping them up immediately. I'm sure a lot of guys are afraid to take them, concerned they are too young, even though they have identification. Many others guys are intimidated by girls that hot due to the relative comparison with their own looks or age. Or they think they won't get the service they want. Or they prefer a curvy lass with some ass tits & cushion for the pushing.
Or they think street girls are more dangerous for theft or STI. Interestingly the latest UNAIDS report showed non venue HIV rates were lower (at about 1.3 percent) in a couple areas of Thailand than those of venues (for example MP's gogos bars). A lot of freelancing girls just work part time, such as a couple I met recently near NEP, & have regular jobs or are students, so they're safer than your average FT working girl. The time of the month when rents become due is prime for picking up such.
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[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1631159]Camdodia might be a better bet for skinny. Higher HIV rates, poorer, so less well fed & more malnourished, all helps in that regard.
OTOH I'm guessing they're a bit more infiltrated by fast food businesses than Vietnam.
Nevertheless I found my dream slim petite girl at the NPL a couple times recently. Never found one that hot before in 7 years.
It always surprises me at the 20 ish stunners who are there waiting, waiting, waiting, with no one scooping them up immediately. I'm sure a lot of guys are afraid to take them, concerned they are too young, even though they have identification. Many others guys are intimidated by girls that hot due to the relative comparison with their own looks or age. Or they think they won't get the service they want. Or they prefer a curvy lass with some ass tits & cushion for the pushing.
Or they think street girls are more dangerous for theft or STI. Interestingly the latest UNAIDS report showed non venue HIV rates were lower (at about 1.3 percent) in a couple areas of Thailand than those of venues (for example MP's gogos bars). A lot of freelancing girls just work part time, such as a couple I met recently near NEP, & have regular jobs or are students, so they're safer than your average FT working girl. The time of the month when rents become due is prime for picking up such.[/QUOTE]Personally I have found the performance of NPL gals to be lacking in the last few years. Have had to call off several sessions. Eventually I just gave up on it. And yes, I do prefer some curves and also want a very experienced gal.
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[QUOTE=Steve7777;1631090]Very low price for long time. But the risk is higher also. Buyer beware of girls who don't insist on condoms.
I'd pass if it were free.[/QUOTE]May I inquire about what the price of LT should be Steve? If 3000 and 4000 is too low then what do you consider the going rate? 6000 THB?
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[QUOTE=Abagneil;1630943] But if, as I read 95%, of those are fat and ugly then I guess I would not try Thailand, not even for this first time I was going, but will go back to Cambodia again.
Cheers[/QUOTE]95% is highly exaggerated. There are still lots of nice looking slim girls to be found in Thailand. It will only take a bit more time and effort to find them compared to say 5 or 10 years ago.
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[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1631024]Love this place! I have been 2 times and always picked a pure porn star for LT. LT is 4000 but you can get them down to 3000 if it is near closing. Number 36, and 83 are stunners with huge tits! These girls are easy going and don't push for condoms if that's your thing.
Enjoy![/QUOTE]I have to be very sceptical about porn star for LT for 3000 Baht in Crazy House. Sounds like you exaggerate. 2000 was lowest I have heard of for ST. A girl would need to be desperate to do LT for 3K. 4K maybe. Many girls are asking for 5K. Don't know if they manage to get it often or not. I have had girls that did not quote a price, even for long time, if there was a really excellent chemistry. In my experience, its very hard to find a porn star type for service in Crazy House. You may have got lucky. There are a limited number of girls with big tits. I am not good at recalling numbers.
Recently saw a new pretty girl leaving on her 2nd ST of the night and was only 10PM. I am sure there is no way she is going to do a LT unless the money is high. O.K. I admit that this is not a typical case. Always some girls are struggling to get enough customers, especially if they get reputation as a star fish.
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[QUOTE=Abagneil;1630943] But if, as I read 95%, of those are fat and ugly then I guess I would not try Thailand, not even for this first time I was going, but will go back to Cambodia again.
Cheers[/QUOTE]You interpret wrongly. Only 5% of girls are interesting for a picky type of person. Does not mean that the remainder are fat and ugly. There are lots of reasons to reject a girl. Tastes vary. From photos of girls that other guys showed me, I still think the standard of looks in BKK is better than Phnom Penh, to my taste. I do know one stunning Cambodian girl here in Bangkok.