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[QUOTE=Raimondo]Hello all,

I have been trying to find 588 rld, walking around the Lotte Dept Store but I was not able to find it.

Can anybody give me detailed indication about how to get there?

Is it maybe closed (I have read something about that)?

If it is closed, is any other rld open?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Hello Raimondo,
and thanks Sukhomvit Sam for a description.

I have another help for you:

Enclosed find a JPG from Seoul metropolitan Subway where I added the 588 area in a red square. Best is to take Subway (Line 1, Cheongnyangni) Exit 5 of and you are almost there.

Enjoy, but you might not be very sucessfull there or they will charge you a much higher price.

I made my best experience in Miari, where GFE is more then 50% standard.
The average girls might not look as good as in 588, but you can find also cuties there. It is just more difficult to judge, as they are in long dresses and are also experienced to hide 'not perfect bodystyles'. So more risky during your selection.

But what does it help if you see the absolute stunner in 588 and you as a westener have no chance to get her?
I propose you try both locations.

regards

Brain666

[QUOTE=Brain666]I made my best experience in Miari, where GFE is more then 50% standard.

The average girls might not look as good as in 588, but you can find also cuties there. It is just more difficult to judge, as they are in long dresses and are also experienced to hide 'not perfect bodystyles'. So more risky during your selection.[/QUOTE]Thank you also to you Brain.

I think the map will surely help.

So for a western guy you suggest Miari.

How do I get there, which is the closest subway station?

I think this information have been already posted, but in the past I have been concentrating mainly on 588 while reading and now It is not easy for me to use internet .

[QUOTE=Raimondo]Thank you also to you Brain.

I think the map will surely help.

So for a western guy you suggest Miari.

How do I get there, which is the closest subway station?

I think this information have been already posted, but in the past I have been concentrating mainly on 588 while reading and now It is not easy for me to use internet .[/QUOTE]

Ok usually I should say RTFF, as I described it in an earlier Post. But now as I already did a map for 588, why not to make a map for the other RLD's as well.
So here is the collection:

Miari RLD:
Take the Line 4 to the north and exit the train at Gireum station. It is the 4th station after Dongdaemun.
Take exit 10 and the entrance to Miari RLD is right 10 m to the right behind the 'flying curtain'. The first shops might not take you and later the shops have locked doors and mama-san will ask if you want sex. Just explore the area. Don't worry. You will get laid. Don't let you hassle by the mama-sans. Take your time for selection. Price is a fixed rate of 70.000 Won. I rathar ask for more time (30 min instead of 15) (sam ship pun ok?), which is quite more sucessful then bargaining the price. The challange is to judge the girls body right. It can be hit (8-9) or so-so 6-7. So some risk of missjudge is there and the girls average looks (naked) is maybe less then in 588. But the damage of such a missjudge is much less then e.g. in an anma where such a fail is a real 200k damage.
My experience so far is that the girls in Miari are more service oriented in average then in the other RLD's. That's why I recently did not check the others again. But it might be time for an Update.

Yongsan RLD:
I usually take Subway Line 1 for yongsan. Line 1 stops in the Yongsan station. The RLD is right in front of the Station.
Line 4 to Sinyongsan is also ok. Recommend exit 3 or 4.
Please see a similar map for the yongsan RLD.
I had mixed experience there , but others had also good experience. Did not yet play the time card bargaining there.

Cheongnyangni = 588:
To have all maps in one report I add the 588 informarion here again.
Best is to take Subway (Line 1, Cheongnyangni) Exit 5. You will almost fall into the RLD. see the map.
I did not really see a westerner beeing laid there recently. We know it is difficult. So who takes the challange?

regards

Brain666

In my opinion, 588 is best overall place to get laid with prime korean hotties for a reasonable price. My advice is bang em while you can because the supplies won't last as they consider shutting the place down by next year. The directions as posted below is accurate. For 60-70k, you get a shot with any Korean Hottie of your choice. I've bang several 9's and one 10 on my trip there. The availabilitie of girls varies from time to time. I suggest to go late at night because of less buildup of car traffic which only heightens the emotional anxiety once walking through a RLD, and makes choosing alot easier. The nighttime girls are always the hottest, The substandard procedure is blowjob and bareback sex in the backrooms. My friend and I hooked up with several girls there, even making a a RLD girlfriend is possible, but not recommended. We need more reports on this particular interesting RLD before it shuts down, so share your expieriences to make our mongering adventures more exciting.

[QUOTE=Kimchi Man]In my opinion, 588 is best overall place to get laid with prime korean hotties for a reasonable price. My advice is bang em while you can because the supplies won't last as they consider shutting the place down by next year. The directions as posted below is accurate. For 60-70k, you get a shot with any Korean Hottie of your choice. I've bang several 9's and one 10 on my trip there. The availabilitie of girls varies from time to time. I suggest to go late at night because of less buildup of car traffic which only heightens the emotional anxiety once walking through a RLD, and makes choosing alot easier. The nighttime girls are always the hottest, The substandard procedure is blowjob and bareback sex in the backrooms. My friend and I hooked up with several girls there, even making a a RLD girlfriend is possible, but not recommended. We need more reports on this particular interesting RLD before it shuts down, so share your expieriences to make our mongering adventures more exciting.[/QUOTE]

Kimchi Man, you are really funny!

All your reports look rather similar. Talking about the hotties, talking about the bareback option (!?!).

However please consider from time to time that probably about 80-90% the readers of this board are foreigners who are not easily taken from the girls at 588. So whatever you would like to have on report, I guess you need to come here and report yourself as our access to the girls is rather limited.

So unfortunately (?) your advise is not an option for us, to chose the best time and focus on the stunner of the stunners to get her for an extended GFE type bareback session with real girlfriend option for the local rate of 6-7 kW.

However you could do us a favor. Whenever you will go next, talk to the girls about the extremely nice foreign comunity here who would do all the best to provide this girls their best ever BFE (Boyfriend experience), best overall attitude and are equipped with western sized totaly satisfying tools whith best operational skills.

So if you do well, we might get a chance next time.

regards

Brain666

Hi guys,

Thank you for reading my post again, it has been a while since I post anything. Anyway this might be off topic but I just came back from QingDao and Weihai and let me tell you, it was very very fun! First of all the selections are a lot more than here, Second, they are very friendly and eager to please you, third, the price is a lot cheaper than korea. (for 600RMB to 800RMB (1US=8.0RMB) the girls will spend the whole night with you until 6am and you can do as many times as you want). I was going to post the names of the places you guys can go but after reading the QingDao board all the info are there! I would suggest KTVs and if you have a chinese friend that will be better for them to take you there, or if you are going with a Korean speaking friend check out the Korean Clubs, they are fun too! One thing to keep in mind is that always ask the cost before you go into any rooms, especially if you are going by yourself! Don’t get rip off!

Maybe some of you guys already understood the reason why I was not able to find the 588 district.

Shame on me, but I have been walking around the wrong Lotte Dept. Store for 2 nights.

Since it is in my hotel area (downtown Seoul) , I saw it and thought it was the right place, without even considering the chance there could be an other one (I was not aware about the name of my hotel subway station).

Anyway yesterday, thank to your information, I went to 588, extremely easy to find once you take the correct exit and, of course, correct subway station.
It was 11Pm more or less.

I was there just to explore and this is what I found :

Majority, I’d say 60%, of the windows were with light off.

Out of the remaning, 50% were with no girls, I don’t know whether they were working inside or just temporarly moved to other windows to chat with other girls
I’d say there were 15-20 girls around

When I start walking after a few meters I passed by a couple of windows with girls, they suddenly closed the window when I was passing by.

I thought “sh…I can understand you don’t want to meet a western guy, but do not tell me that way…..”

I kept on walking.

I never been in a Seoul RLD before, I cannot make comparison but the girls were mostly beautiful, tall and with nice face and body. Some of them too slim for my taste, but I’d say, IMHO, a 7.5 grade average, with some really stunner (9).

When I passed by the windows most of them just didn’t look at me. But 3/4 called me.

I approached and tried to talk english but they did not. I could have entered and try to understand each other in some way (of course I don’t know one single Korean word) but I remembered what Brain said about the chance they could overrate me and I don’t usually like to play a game when the rules are not clear, so I passed. I don’t even know how much they could ask.

I was a little bit surprised about these 3/4 , since I was expecting nobody would call me. Maybe some other western guys knowing, for these situations, basic Korean words, may want to try.

Just a few cars around, just a few mongers walking together with a couple of drunken guys. That was the, a little bit depressing, scenario.

As far as I understood, in Miari the situation about rate should be clear (70k for everybody Korean or not), so the language barrier shoul not be an ostacle.
One of the next nights I’d go there and let you know.

When back to the hotel I was approached by a lady, not very tall, I’d 1.60, face not too bad, I’d say 35 yo and a 6.5 rate. She asked me 200k for long time in my hotel.
I could bargain because she asked me whether it was too much, but I declined since in my hotel there are still too many my collegues around.
Maybe in the next days the situation will change.

Regards

So guys time to report about last Sunday. I had a couple of small electronics stuff to buy in the electronics malls of Yongsan and coming with Subway line 1 as usual, after my shopping and market exploration I needed to check the Yongsan RLD’s girl quality. Can’t leave Yongsan without such a check, even if last time it was almost dead.

I was heading the Yongsan RLD at about 17:30h at this Sunday for an alley check and expected a dead RLD. However to my surprise it was not. Several girls were on service and the average quality was better then during my last walk through some weeks ago.

So started to do a closer check and my dick also showed demand.
Walking through the alleys, declining several offers (‘will come back later’) I suddenly saw her: A stunner in Yongsan, like the ones you see more often in 588. Beautiful slightly brown body (solarium?) very slim, but not to skinny, nice face, so to say she was a dream Girl. Rating 9+ in our scale.

I started my Miari negotiation (30 minutes). She declined and offered 20 min. 80kW and offered 40 min. for 120 kW. Didn’t seem to be in negotiation. I guess she knows her value.

As my experience is that such stunners potentially might not provide the best service and then logically the 80kW would be kind of test ride investment. However logic is one thing, but when you look at this beautiful body a 50% surcharge for the double time also sounds not so bad in case you are lucky. In front of that stunner, I decided to take the risk and went for the 120K 40 min course.

Inside I was guided to her room. Quite nice decoration, double bed and very good, 3 walls around the bed ‘wallpapered’ with mirrors. She came in and asked me to take off. I heard her going to the bathroom hearing the water washing action. When coming in again, she was interrupted by a phone call taking almost 3-5 minutes. I was thinking, if she might forget this adding to the time later. When she came back she said sorry.

She undressed. The naked body was still beautiful from the near. The breast however much smaller (half fill of an A-Cup) and not really perfect to her body: Total Rating now 9- from 9+ before, due to breast deduction. (I don’t mind so much small breasts, for others it might be a turn down and then deduction higher).

She started cleaning my dick and my front side with whet towels. Then she started kissing my breast, went down to my dick, kissed him shortly and then proceeded to cover him with a condom. So no BBBJ as I hoped. I indicated to do without, but she declined. It took her almost 2 minutes to put the condom on (not a big sized one), very carefully to have everything really 100% covered ‘to the bottom’.

CBJ followed which was ok by CBJ standard (Rating 7/10 CBJ scale) but not really that great (anyhow CBJ can never beat BBBJ if you are used to this). She then started to proceed putting my dick in riding me, but she looked a bit afraid, saying big (guys again- I have no horse cock). She stopped putting it in and added 2 times more fluid/ cream. Then she slowly sat on me carefully guided it in, in 2 steps. Finally done, she looked really ‘filled’. Started riding me. Basically she had a more tight pussy, but due to so much lubrication used + a obviously thicker type of condom (the opposite of a thin and sensual), I did not feel that great as I expected, but still ok.

After riding me she came down and we continued ‘I down she above’. This position was great, as I could watch my dick in the mirrors going in and out her pussy, surrounded by a beautiful styled ass. Much different view then from doggy. She also watched this and again said ‘ big’ seeing this.

Then we continued missionary. I sucked the ½ A-cup breast, she allowed, but as expected no DFK (also not kissing at all) and I didn’t even try DATY. She always wanted to put in my dick herself, never let me do it. Seemed she didn’t like me to touch her pussy. We changed several times the positions and she many timed added lubrication.
She was able to use her pussy mussles squezing my dick, which was very nice.

It seemed she tried to make me come more quickly, but due to so much lubrication it was impossible for me to come. Dick was ok, but no coming. It seemed that she had a problem with the size, so she started to ask finish. I mentioned the time, she indicated a time on the clock, which was only 30 min., I said no, indicated the start and then she agreed to almost 40 min for stop action.

She tried to avoid fucking again, indicating pain, but I asked to continue. Finally due to the debate and the lubrication I could not come (even if it was so nice watching me in the mirror), so I gave up. She quickly threw over her house dress (not the stunner clothing).

When I finished putting my clothes on, she still was in her house dress, another girl was in the window. Looked like she was taking a rest to ‘cool down’ recreate her pussy. (Actually it was a lot of fucking in total – maybe almost 30 of the 40 min, so maybe she is used to have 5 min fuck rounds). I think she needed a rest and it could be to her excuse that she really felled a bit pain caused by my dick.

Overall judgement:
Yes it was nice to have a stunner this time. Body rating: 9-
Performance: overall 7. Sex was a little bit too much on the mechanic side as I am used to now from Miari. No BBBJ, No DATY, No Kissing.
The positive was to have the mirror view as it shows more what kind of nice body I am fucking during action. The other positive was her ability to contract her pussy mussles, which was apretty good feel, but didn't help with so much librication.
Damage of totally 120k is overall too much (ok I could have had the stunner feel for 80kW)

Conclusion:
Others might think different, but for me overall, the advantage of stunner body overall does not substitute missing passion and action. So I might be happy continuing with my Miari Girls, mostly not the stunners, but mostly having better action.
How to find the best combination?? I will continue searching.

Regards

Brain666

This is the continuation of my last weeks Sunday activities after Fucking the ‘stunner girl’ in Yongsan.

After I couldn’t come with the stunner in Yongsan I directly entered the Subway line 4 at Sinyongsan Station (next to the RLD) to Miari (Gireum Station), which is 12 subway stops to go.
Entered Miari and walking through the alleys. In the first shops, the girls were just preparing for the evening – breakfast time, tooth brush, make up etc. Funny to see.
Some shops were already in operation.
I walked thruh and was guided by one mama-san around some corner. Inside waqs a girl, with an ok Face smiling, and ok arms which I use as an indication for judgement of the body below.

I rated ok and went for it after agreeing the 30 min. (sam-ship pun ok?).
Went to the room, paid and the girl came in with wet towels.

I put off and laid naked on the bed awaiting the dick cleaning process. She then put off and:

Shocked!!!!!! :eek: Shocked!!!!!! :eek: Shocked!!!!!! :eek: Shocked!!!!!!

I completely failed to rate her body. Never happened to me yet so bad (ok I had some not so good judgements before as well). Rating about 4-5 I body.
Breasts so so (6-7), but love handles, some operation, overall to fat and ugly around the lower essential parts.

Raimondo will hate me if he follows my recommendation for Miari and gets such a girl, and of course Kimchi Man will tell me that he always said that 588 girls are the ones to go.

So shame on me guys. This failure can happen in Miari.
I was so sure and proud of myself that I am rather good in Miari girl judgement. And now that. My self confidence :( is gone! Need some time to recover that. ‘Cryyyyyyyyy’

Miari visitors: Choose your girls wisely!!!!!

Ok I proceeded to fuck this girl. (I don’t remember when ever last I have fucked a 4-5 scale girl – did I ever??). Of course there was not so much motivation on my side. So no way to come, even I concentrated to think on other girls. In addition after about 15 minutes she started to rush me and shortly later bitching about the time (as far as I could understand)
Even if we have agreed 30 min.

Ok in this case easy to give up.

Damage = 70kW (this damage war really total)

Regards, a dissapointed :confused:

Brain666

This is the last part of my last Sunday’s adventures.

After that last experience I completely demoralized continued to head through the alleys.

Went to the house where I had my best experience so far. Yes they have been in Operation. Asked for my girl (we had already 2 sessions). Yes she was available.

Ok, long story short, this Sunday I finally got satisfied. As she was accommodating as always, nice behave, likes kissing, does not lubricate her pussy, seems to enjoy my dick inside her.
I felt coming home. Great feel again, the BBBJ, the Fucking. My dick was back on action, after 10 minutes of playing and another 10 minutes of fucking I was coming in a huge explosion.

Great. This Time
Investment: 70kW (for 30 min) –
Return of Investment due through fun 70 kW
Damage: 0

Btw: when I left the room, 2 guys (non Koreans) with 2 girls came out of another room. Wonder if they had an orgy there.

I might try a double girl feature next time which they offered me once.

Anyhow, :cool: my spirit is back :cool:

regards

Brain666

I tried the Yongsan RLD. OMG! Even in the daytime there are many stunners. The girls are beautiful, friendly and well-mannered, unlike Thai, Viet, Malay, Indonesian or Chinese.

Korean girls are my favorite Asian partners. Cant wait to go back.


[QUOTE=Brain666]
Miari RLD:
Take the Line 4 to the north and exit the train at Gireum station. It is the 4th station after Dongdaemun.
Take exit 10 and the entrance to Miari RLD is right 10 m to the right behind the 'flying curtain'. The first shops might not take you and later the shops have locked doors and mama-san will ask if you want sex. Just explore the area. Don't worry. You will get laid. Don't let you hassle by the mama-sans. Take your time for selection. Price is a fixed rate of 70.000 Won. I rathar ask for more time (30 min instead of 15) (sam ship pun ok?), which is quite more sucessful then bargaining the price. The challange is to judge the girls body right. It can be hit (8-9) or so-so 6-7. So some risk of missjudge is there and the girls average looks (naked) is maybe less then in 588. But the damage of such a missjudge is much less then e.g. in an anma where such a fail is a real 200k damage.
My experience so far is that the girls in Miari are more service oriented in average then in the other RLD's. That's why I recently did not check the others again. But it might be time for an Update.

Yongsan RLD:
I usually take Subway Line 1 for yongsan. Line 1 stops in the Yongsan station. The RLD is right in front of the Station.
Line 4 to Sinyongsan is also ok. Recommend exit 3 or 4.
Please see a similar map for the yongsan RLD.
I had mixed experience there , but others had also good experience. Did not yet play the time card bargaining there.

Cheongnyangni = 588:
To have all maps in one report I add the 588 informarion here again.
Best is to take Subway (Line 1, Cheongnyangni) Exit 5. You will almost fall into the RLD. see the map.
I did not really see a westerner beeing laid there recently. We know it is difficult. So who takes the challange?

regards

Brain666[/QUOTE]

So guys,
want to let you know that I will be off from mongering for the whole June, as my wife is heading to Seoul now.

No condolences required, I will not be suffering. She will keep my balls rather empty. Have a good and enjoyable sexlife with her.

I will follow this forum of course and comment when possible. Please issue reports of all your activities. Somebody needs to keep my girls in Miari busy so that the pussies don't dry up. So don't forget them!

Hopefully no new crack downs happen in the meantime.

regards

Brain666

After a brief tour of China and Macau, I stopped by Seoul for a week (last week). I am ethnically Korean, but really speak the language barely enough to get by (order at restaurants, elementary level converstaion - not enough to flirt or make jokes). I don't come to Korea very often, but this was not my first time here. Also, the group part of the experience below was with locals. Anyway, that is the intro for whoever finds it helpful.

My friends and I met at Hotel Prima, downstairs basement which has a RS. Now as many of you know, many RS now don't offer FS. But with some asking, the person booking us ok'd it for our group. I think basically they only bring in the girls that agree to go upstairs, thus overall limiting the numbers in the lineup. This is still a pleasant surprise find! I picked up Ms. Lee as my date for the evening, had a great time playing drinking games and getting pretty much plastered and making a fool of ourselves (including the girls - if anyone is interested, there is a great drinking game that entails guessing people's underwear color andremoving articles of clothing, but details for another time). Great time overall already, and the girls were sooooooo cute/hot! As opposed to other times, I just went for the best face/breast size combination. The overall price was USD 1200 for 4 people, plus tip for the girls and cost of hotel room. I think this is about the going rate for this kind of joint, and to experience all different features of mongering, I really enjoy this as much as the BBS and Anma's!

Upstairs, she wanted to cuddle for about 10 minutes before showering. I asked if she carried more than one condom, and luckily she had 3 (unluckily I usually only need 2 :( ) Shower, BBJ, spooning while playing with her natural c-cup was absolutely great. And because I was drunk, this went on long enough for her to ask to rest, more BBJ, mish, doggy... great fun for all, and I'm pretty sure she was into the whole thing too. Most times, despite the cost, they want to leave shortly after, but we sat and talked before round two. And when she did leave, she asked twice to call her. More on this later.

Face: 9
Body: 9
Attitude: 10
Cost: US$ 300 (in addition to above cost)
Emotional Cost: unmeasurable (see further details)

I think the educational part of the post really is that there is one more RS with full service, but the other is again that being a gentleman and fun can lead to better all around service.

My armor was on (so as not to like this girl beyond the P4P) when I called her the next day.

So I called her the next day for coffee in the afternoon. We ended up hanging out for an early dinner and she had to go back to work!! Too bad, I thought there would be a repeat session, but didn't factor in her schedule.

She called me twice from work, and we arranged to meet later that evening. If there is such a thing, I really started to dig this girl in less than 24 hours! I think the absolute cute type that turns into a minx in the bedroom, kind of model-like look but yet pretty submissive (coffee, sure; dinner, sure; I like something, yes she likes the same; etc.) really is a turn on.

I can hear all the groans on the board already about her just wanting $$, but I really think she is too young (23 yo), too convincing during conversations, too sincere all around. I'm in my 30's and haven't really felt this puppy sensation in a long long time. To make a long story short, she came over that evening for another all-night round, this time at my hotel (which I think is unusual for RS girls), and for the next 2 nights until I left. She called several times during the day, and I have since called her from the US. My mobile in ROK was a rental from the airport, so no chance for her to hang onto that number even if she wanted.

The bottom line, though, is that only after a few days, I WANT to call her, and am trying to work around getting back to Korea. Pretty bad, even in the setting where I know the line of work she is in. After the first night where I paid the house, I only paid for the incidentals (room service, taxi fare, etc), and didn't really tip her. I gave her $300 almost as a present that I couldn't actually go out and buy something more meaningful... tacky I know but probably more practical.

These stories abound. And I'm only a few days into this mistake, but I'm sure, as many of you probably are, that I will barrel down this road until someone gets hurt.

-M

I went by Venus Anma last nite and had a girl that at least was willing to take a finger up her ass.

Body was kind of skinny, face was about a 7, tan body or it seemed. Doesnt speak any english at all. All conversation was in Korean.

I was able to get my finger up her ass while she was giving me a BBBJ.

As you well know YMMV with any girl.

She only works the weekends or thats what she says.

Other than that it was a typical Anma experience.

BK