Sauna Reviews

Seamaster

Thanks for the report and glad for you you finally discovered Macau ! What happened with The Venetian ladies than ??

I like 'em... back in a few days, booked in Venetian than MGM. Miam...

Sorry for the one-week delay. We have some coworkers who were new to Hong Kong and needed to be shown the “sights”. Kept me busy all week.

So last time I reported on my trip to 18 Sauna. Well the next day was Saturday, and that night I decided to give the Venetian food court girls a try. The reports I read regarding the Lisboa racetrack girls seemed to be mostly negative, but the general consensus on the Venetian girls was that they were younger, cuter, and nicer, so I decided to give them a try.

The food court is located on the 2nd or 3rd floor (the escalators are confusing) of the Venetian hotel. I don’t know if it was my luck or what, but I actually noticed more girls NEAR the food court as opposed to actually IN it. They walk together in small clusters of 2-3 girls alongside the fake canal near the food court. A few were actually just sitting on the benches waiting for customers to talk to them. I didn’t want to make the mistake of propositioning a girl who wasn’t working, so I decided to stick with the tried and true method of eye contact. Lock eyes long enough and she’ll come over.

All in all, I saw about 15 girls wandering around. They all seemed pretty young, and were definitely attractive, but weren’t as friendly as sauna girls. Maybe it’s because they’re trying to keep a low profile while operating in plain sight, I don’t know. They’re also of the skinny and flat-chested variety. I prefer at least a C, preferably D or better, but most of them were barely mustering a B, so that was a major disappointment.

The first girl I talked was all about business. No smile, no small talk, just straight up business. She quoted 1500. I dismissed her right away because her attitude was a complete turn off.

The second girl I was interested in avoided me like the plague after we locked eyes. I don’t know what that was all about.

The third girl who came over was quite friendly. She touched me, flirted a bit, and stroked my arm a couple times. She wanted 1400. I countered with 700. And we settled on 1000, which, according to ISG, is on the high side of the going rate, but is still acceptable. Besides, the girl was pretty cute. Her name was Xiao Ling, and she was Chinese, about 168 cm, very thin, small B cups though, but had legs up to her neck, beautiful eyes, and a tantalizing mouth. Looked barely 20, even by Asian standards. Very nice.

I made sure to specify that 1000 was for an entire hour. After everything was agreed upon, she took me to the elevator and we went up to her room. It was a basic suite, nothing fancy. You could kind of tell it was recently used, but the overall cleanliness was acceptable.

We ran through the usual routine of shower, light massage, BBBJ, and the usual positions. No fire and ice or any other special treatments that the sauna girls give. It was just straight up sex. But Xiao Ling was pretty into it and was not in a rush. DFK was good and GFE was moderate. It felt like a one night stand with a chick from a club back home. Worth the 1000. Afterwards, she walked me to the elevator and I went down alone.

Overall, I’d rate the experience as follows: Face = 9, body = 7, service = 8. I was a little harsh on the body rating because I’m really into the big boobs. Maybe I watch too much porn or something, but I always figure that if I’m paying for it, I want something more than what the average girl has to offer. Some people like certain services, I like Barbie doll figures. To each his own.

Compared to saunas, I have to say that I still prefer saunas hands down. But this seems to be an interesting alternative if you don’t mind scoping out girls, haggling, and running the risk of getting a dud. I think in this regard the classic principle applies. Their attitude is a reliable indicator of how they’ll behave in the sack, so don’t pick the really pretty but really bitchy ones, unless you enjoy screwing beautiful dead fish.

Next time in Macau, I’m giving the Lisboa racetrack girls a try. If anyone has any new updates or vital information regarding these girls, please share!

[QUOTE=Seamaster811]The reports I read regarding the Lisboa racetrack girls seemed to be mostly negative, but the general consensus on the Venetian girls was that they were younger, cuter, and nicer, so I decided to give them a try.

All in all, I saw about 15 girls wandering around. They all seemed pretty young, and were definitely attractive, but weren’t as friendly as sauna girls. Maybe it’s because they’re trying to keep a low profile while operating in plain sight, I don’t know. They’re also of the skinny and flat-chested variety. I prefer at least a C, preferably D or better, but most of them were barely mustering a B, so that was a major disappointment.

The first girl I talked was all about business. No smile, no small talk, just straight up business. She quoted 1500. I dismissed her right away because her attitude was a complete turn off.

The second girl I was interested in avoided me like the plague after we locked eyes. I don’t know what that was all about.

The third girl who came over was quite friendly. She touched me, flirted a bit, and stroked my arm a couple times. She wanted 1400. I countered with 700. And we settled on 1000, which, according to ISG, is on the high side of the going rate, but is still acceptable. Besides, the girl was pretty cute. Her name was Xiao Ling, and she was Chinese, about 168 cm, very thin, small B cups though, but had legs up to her neck, beautiful eyes, and a tantalizing mouth. Looked barely 20, even by Asian standards. Very nice.

I made sure to specify that 1000 was for an entire hour. We ran through the usual routine of shower, light massage, BBBJ, and the usual positions. No fire and ice or any other special treatments that the sauna girls give. It was just straight up sex. But Xiao Ling was pretty into it and was not in a rush. DFK was good and GFE was moderate. It felt like a one night stand with a chick from a club back home. Worth the 1000. Afterwards, she walked me to the elevator and I went down alone.

Overall, I’d rate the experience as follows: Face = 9, body = 7, service = 8. I was a little harsh on the body rating because I’m really into the big boobs. Maybe I watch too much porn or something, but I always figure that if I’m paying for it, I want something more than what the average girl has to offer. Some people like certain services, I like Barbie doll figures. To each his own.

Compared to saunas, I have to say that I still prefer saunas hands down. But this seems to be an interesting alternative if you don’t mind scoping out girls, haggling, and running the risk of getting a dud. I think in this regard the classic principle applies. Their attitude is a reliable indicator of how they’ll behave in the sack, so don’t pick the really pretty but really bitchy ones, unless you enjoy screwing beautiful dead fish.

Next time in Macau, I’m giving the Lisboa racetrack girls a try. If anyone has any new updates or vital information regarding these girls, please share![/QUOTE]
Seamaster, that was an informative report on the Venetian food court girls. Next time I am in Macau, I will have to check out that scene. I love Chinese eye candy.

When I was last in Macau in March, I stopped by the Lisboa racetrack every night for 15 to 20 minutes on my way to MGM Grand or MP3 bar. There is something about seeing attractive Chinese working girls dressed up nice wandering around the mall that is intoxicating. But my experiences were similar to others.

1st night, the girls walked past me and gave me no eye contact. After about 10 minutes of watching the girls walk by as I drank some mango juice I purchased at the fruit store, I stopped one and said hi. She got down to business real quick and asked 1400hk. I smiled and said that was too beaucoup. I told her I knew the real price was 800hk. She said yes, but that was for Chinese men only. You no Chinese. I said damn right! I am an American and is not my money just as good as Chinese man's money. She reiterated 1400hk. I smiled, said no thanks it's your loss, and walked away.

2nd night was more of the same. The girls tried their best to ignore me as they passed by while I drank my mango juice. I just acted like I did not give a damn, and I didn't because I was getting all I needed and then some in the saunas and bars. A funny incident occurred while I was there that night. An old Chinese geezer (he must have been around 70) walked into the arcade. 4 or 5 of the hottest girls literally threw themselves at this 3 pack a day leathered old crocodile. I could not believe it. It was one of the most amazing things I saw on the trip!

3rd day I started to get some looks from a couple of girls and one girl even smiled and approached me. She was not the hottest of the bunch, but she was OK. We talked a little, she gave me the lowdown and then she gave me her quote: 1000hk. Now, if she had been one of the really pretty girls I would have given her a try and I still think it might have been interesting, but instead I politely declined her offer.

My take on this is that the Lisboa girls are very reluctant to get it on with Western men. This attitude is definitely based on prejudice and ignorance. But, if you have the time and the patience the ice will melt. Would it be worthwhile to put in the necessary effort in order to get it on with one of superstar fillies? Maybe, but since there are so many really fine Chinese girls just waiting for handsome western man in the saunas; a racetrack girl's attitude would have do a complete 180 before I would spend my hard earned money and go upstairs with one. Just walk into MP3 bar around midnight. That is the attitude I'm talking about!

Next time, I will give the Venetian girls a look see. I like “B” cups and “A” cups, but I am a real sucker for a pretty face. "C" cups are ok too, but "D's" are too much of a good thing unless the girl is very young, IMHO. One thing we can agree upon: the saunas in Macau are #1.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]"D's" are too much of a good thing unless the girl is very young, IMHO.[/QUOTE]Very true. To be honest, despite most men preferring natural breasts, I actually prefer really nice fake ones. It's the only way you can get great tits on a thin girl. It's also the only way D cups and above don't sag once they're over 25 :-P

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]One thing we can agree upon: the saunas in Macau are #1.[/QUOTE]Amen!

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]My take on this is that the Lisboa girls are very reluctant to get it on with Western men. This attitude is definitely based on prejudice and ignorance. But, if you have the time and the patience the ice will melt. Would it be worthwhile to put in the necessary effort in order to get it on with one of superstar fillies? Maybe, but since there are so many really fine Chinese girls just waiting for handsome western man in the saunas; a racetrack girl's attitude would have do a complete 180 before I would spend my hard earned money and go upstairs with one. Just walk into MP3 bar around midnight. That is the attitude I'm talking about! .[/QUOTE]I once asked one of the Lisboa girls as to why they charged different rates for Western men. The answers were 1 Western men are more demanding whereas Asian men or Chinese men can be easily satisfied with a very pretty face and good body alone. 2 Western men's dicks are bigger, so girls get tired easier. 3 It is easier for them to communicate in Chinese.

I thought while still kind of prejudice, that's fair enough because they are there on their free will and they are the bosses and managers of their bodies and services unlike the girls in the sauna.

[QUOTE=Bluerose] I thought while still kind of prejudice, that's fair enough because they are there on their free will and they are the bosses and managers of their bodies and services unlike the girls in the sauna.[/QUOTE]
Well I certainly don't want to force anyone to have sex with me if they don't want to, and I respect their freedom to choose who to service. But, discrimination is discrimination is bad business. These girls are screwing themselves.

Look at it from this angle; if race track girls have the right to deny service based on nationality and race, then don't restaurant and hotel owners have the same right to deny service to those people they don't want to do business with? And don't small business owners have the same right not to hire somebody based on their creed and color? It is a self defeating business practice, but it is called freedom. But try doing that to a person belonging to a minority group or race in the USA and you will find yourself in a whole shit storm of legal and financial problems.

Look at it from this angle; if race track girls have the right to deny service based on nationality and race, then don't restaurant and hotel owners have the same right to deny service to those people they don't want to do business with? And don't small business owners have the same right not to hire somebody based on their creed and color? It is a self defeating business practice, but it is called freedom. But try doing that to a person belonging to a minority group or race in the USA and you will find yourself in a whole shit storm of legal and financial problems.[/QUOTE]I certainly do not condone discrimination, but what I said was an example of the failure of 'market' or pricing. If what the Lisboa girls said or felt were true, it would require more of them to serve Western men than Chinese men in general. Perhaps the most market solution to it is to break down the services like in Germany (BBBJ, CIM, etc), but either for the lack of differentiated services on offer or too much hassle (transaction costs being high enough (imagining doing these negotiations all the time over there) to deter the offer of differentiated services-pricing).

Reverse discrimination or affirmative action is fine in the USA including forced quota on the percentage of Asian American students in top US universities is ok, why?

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]Well I certainly don't want to force anyone to have sex with me if they don't want to, and I respect their freedom to choose who to service. But, discrimination is discrimination is bad business. These girls are screwing themselves.

Look at it from this angle; if race track girls have the right to deny service based on nationality and race, then don't restaurant and hotel owners have the same right to deny service to those people they don't want to do business with? And don't small business owners have the same right not to hire somebody based on their creed and color? It is a self defeating business practice, but it is called freedom. But try doing that to a person belonging to a minority group or race in the USA and you will find yourself in a whole shit storm of legal and financial problems.[/QUOTE]
Do you mean you can take a w***e to Court in the U.S. cause she did not want to have paid sex with you because of nationality? LOL
just kidding..:)
BUT whilst your principles are correct, I don't think the basic social rule not to have tht kind of discrimination applies in prostitution: at the end of the day it is the girl own body being used we are talking about.
And she has the freedom to accept or not accept a customer maybe by higher prices to discourage the unwanted customer.

[QUOTE=Bionicman]Do you mean you can take a w***e to Court in the U.S. cause she did not want to have paid sex with you because of nationality? LOL
just kidding..:) [/QUOTE]
If prostitution were legalized in the US, that's exactly what would take effect. Go to the legal prostitution establishments in Nevada. No customer can be turned down solely because of his race or nationality.[QUOTE=Bluerose]
I certainly do not condone discrimination, but what I said was an example of the failure of 'market' or pricing....Reverse discrimination or affirmative action is fine in the USA including forced quota on the percentage of Asian American students in top US universities is ok, why?[/QUOTE]
It is not OK in my opinion. Reverse discrimination or affirmative action exists in the USA because of political power reasons. The pro affirmative action side seems to have a leveraged majority. It is not in the constitution and that is why the issue will not go away. It is wrong to discriminate!

I think the issue at the Lisboa Racetrack is not so much a case of market pricing failure, but rather one of asymmetric information. The girls don't seem to understand that their prejudice reduces the demand for their service and thus lowers the price they can charge. Either they are screwing themselves or they have so much demand from Asian men that they feel they can afford to give in to their prejudice. Their loss is the Sauna's gain.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo] And don't small business owners have the same right not to hire somebody based on their creed and color? It is a self defeating business practice, but it is called freedom. But try doing that to a person belonging to a minority group or race in the USA and you will find yourself in a whole shit storm of legal and financial problems.[/QUOTE]


You're kidding or really believe what you wrote ? Small business owners don't need to TELL the prospective staff they won't be employed because of their race or religion etc... but they definetely can dismiss them on these grounds - quite common where I live, and although not in the US, we do have antidiscrimanatory laws.

Besides your claim of this discrimation beeing self defeating is more than a bit questionnable. Not sure abt the Lisboa girls but it sounds quite ovious the staff one employs should fit its targetted market and also preferably its coworkers.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]If prostitution were legalized in the US, that's exactly what would take effect. Go to the legal prostitution establishments in Nevada. No customer can be turned down solely because of his race or nationality.[/QUOTE]Very true. However, it's important to differentiate between establishments and independent working girls.

As a legitimate business, saunas and the like are subject to anti-racism laws. Sure, these laws may be looser in some countries than in others, but they're there. Individual workers, however, are free to be as racist as they please. It's unethical, but it's legal, hence the Lisboa racetrack girls' preference for Chinese men and flat out rejection of Western men.

Even in Nevada, you can't take an street worker or any other independent worker to court for being racist. You can only sue establishments.

It's like dating. If a white man only prefers to date white women and thus turns down an Asian woman, is that racist? No, it's a preference. But if a dating service refuses to list a black man's ad, then that's racist.

Also, I think us white guys have been spoiled by all the girls in non-Western countries with white fever. Is it that hard to accept that sometimes Chinese girls just want to date Chinese men? You don't see Asian guys getting their panties all up in a bunch because most white women prefer non-Asian men. It is what it is.

If the Chinese-only girls had a better attitude when rejecting us, we wouldn't be calling foul. But they don't, and so we do. It's all about customer service. Saunas nail this straight on the head.

Went to 18 last night, first time I've had the thigh massage there. I very weird experience sitting with your legs over the thighs off an older woman, still attractive and have her play with your bits while people sitting around you, having a conversation. Very good value at 180Mops for 25 mins so I got two sessions. Usual great line-up and had a great session with young gorgeous Viet girl.

I had had good service from Russians in the past few years at 18 Sauna so for the second time in two nights I returned. First choice was Russian girl, don't know why after having such great service from a viet cutie the night before. The white girl had a look of disdain but she also had a nice rack and a reasonable face (the rack turned out to be a bad set of fakes). I must have waited for a good 15 mins downstairs for her to arrive and it must have surprised her as who had chosen her as she checked the room number.

With a total lack of any sort of civility she just pointed and grunted at me to do things and without going into details the service was not there. I have written a couple of posts in the past about how I have handle this in the past but this time I gauged that the service was not going to improve so after the washing bit, when she gestured for me to go and dry myself I just grabbed my pj's and left the room to return to desk at the foot of the stairs. I demanded in a reasonably loud voice that I wanted to talk to an English speaking manager.

While I was waiting a number of clients and their girls came and went past me and staff kept repeating “wait a moment please”. It took a while (like a good 5mins) for the girl to appear but she just said “ What happen. My customer has disappearred” and then just stood there waiting. The manager came down and after a brief conversation he asked me to follow him upstairs where I returned to my seat in the lounge.

The upshot of it all was that it didn't seem to worry the manager at all. After I explained that I had had great time the night before and he just said “Will you choose another girl” and I said yes. He then said “But you must pay for the 12 mins. in the room because the computer records the time when the girl rings maybe $Hk300” which I considered but countered with $HK200 (mostly to save time and effort and to allow him to save face) which he agreed to. I then chose a nice Viet girl on the recommendation of one of the other managers who seemed to want to sure that I was mollified. I had a great time with her.

[QUOTE=Nicholas3801]I had had good service from Russians in the past few years at 18 Sauna so for the second time in two nights I returned. First choice was Russian girl, don't know why after having such great service from a viet cutie the night before. The white girl had a look of disdain but she also had a nice rack and a reasonable face (the rack turned out to be a bad set of fakes). I must have waited for a good 15 mins downstairs for her to arrive and it must have surprised her as who had chosen her as she checked the room number.

With a total lack of any sort of civility she just pointed and grunted at me to do things and without going into details the service was not there. I have written a couple of posts in the past about how I have handle this in the past but this time I gauged that the service was not going to improve so after the washing bit, when she gestured for me to go and dry myself I just grabbed my pj's and left the room to return to desk at the foot of the stairs. I demanded in a reasonably loud voice that I wanted to talk to an English speaking manager.

While I was waiting a number of clients and their girls came and went past me and staff kept repeating “wait a moment please”. It took a while (like a good 5mins) for the girl to appear but she just said “ What happen. My customer has disappearred” and then just stood there waiting. The manager came down and after a brief conversation he asked me to follow him upstairs where I returned to my seat in the lounge.

The upshot of it all was that it didn't seem to worry the manager at all. After I explained that I had had great time the night before and he just said “Will you choose another girl” and I said yes. He then said “But you must pay for the 12 mins. in the room because the computer records the time when the girl rings maybe $Hk300” which I considered but countered with $HK200 (mostly to save time and effort and to allow him to save face) which he agreed to. I then chose a nice Viet girl on the recommendation of one of the other managers who seemed to want to sure that I was mollified. I had a great time with her.[/QUOTE]

Wow you the man.....you did the right thing.....i never considered that as an option anywhere...i thought its just part of mongering life....next time..if i get a bad service in Macau...i sure do the same thing...thanks for the info

I had a few free nights after 5 weeks in China, and decided on two nights in Macau one night in Hong Kong (both for the first time). I wanted to try at least one sauna, and play the rest by ear.

Went to Golden Suana around 9PM on first night, inspired in part by Kapoor78's report on the "house selects" option. Well, it IS possible to get a lemon. Girl was Vietnamese, looked OK but not as good as girls hanging around lounge. Went through all the rituals, but no DFK, nothing special. But at the 40 minute mark, she declared I was too big. She offered hand job instead. I was not sure about the protocol of declaring I wanted someone different in the midpoint of a "house chooses" event, so settled on BJ, which turned out to be covered. With some time left, she offered no massage, just snuggling. Later, no one inquired about how the service was. Afterward I got some more food and sat through a session of "the show" which I'm sure works better as an appetizer than dessert. My girl from the back was NOT part of the lineup (and wouldn't have made the cut unless there were a LOT more guys around, I thought the Indonesians were the hottest), so I guess they have some girls reserved for cheapies like me. Overall I chose poorly for my first Macau sauna (cheap sauna experience, expensive CBJ).

On the way back to hotel, noticed some Philipina WGs but the hottest were ladyboys.

Next day went to Hou Va (despite some negative comments on its dumpiness). Picked the girl (Vietnamese) with the best eye contact, and had a very enjoyable time, much of it with her tongue in my mouth. Certainly for me the girl and the sex are mcuh more important than the extras (food, shows...) but if course you are rolling dice. Good value but I should have just taken the shorter one-pop session. (How old do I have to get to figure this out?)

That night I mainly wandered around taking pictures of Macau lights. I noticed some WGs outside I think President Casino, one really hot, whose deal was come up to her room at the hotel for $1000 (apparently non-negotiable). I'm surprised a hotel would tolerate girls blatantly hooking in front of the reception.

I noticed that the area between Grand Emperor and Metople hotels had a lot of Filipinas, and sat down with a buch of them near the Grand Emperor for some discussion. The girl I liked best wouldn't go with me for $400 but was happy with $500 for her and her friend who was also nice. (How does this math work?) I don't usually get much out of a twosome, but this was very enjoyable, I was a happy customer. Next AM took ferry to HK.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]I think the issue at the Lisboa Racetrack is not so much a case of market pricing failure, but rather one of asymmetric information. The girls don't seem to understand that their prejudice reduces the demand for their service and thus lowers the price they can charge. Either they are screwing themselves or they have so much demand from Asian men that they feel they can afford to give in to their prejudice. Their loss is the Sauna's gain.[/QUOTE]

you are such a cry baby. cry, cry, cry. I can't get cheap pussy since I am a superior pompous white boy. sheesh! I had my fair share of racial prejudice but I don't whine about it (Korea is famous for this shit ~ I have seen beastly ones turn down the superior Aryan race). You go on and find a girl that will accept you. besides even if a girl decides to begrudgingly go with you. your service with her is bound to be shitty. I hate getting shitty service as much as getting a ugly girl. Also a lot of these girls aren't used to dicks bigger then 3 inches. seriously. I had tons of experience (mostly in mainland) where the girl became limp after 15 minutes (in a two hour session) since she wasn't enjoying the session since i happen to be bigger then said 3 inches. Some even stopped the session all togethor. I learned to pick the older gorgeous girls (25-28) in macao/china. they can handle the cock better and there service normally is phenomenal. picking a 19ish yo girl and the odds are against you for getting great service. I can only recall a handful of times when i had GFE/PSE with younger girls and that's because they wanted me to become there significant other. Other then that. there service flat out sucks.

[QUOTE=Stinkyfeet]you are such a cry baby. cry, cry, cry. I can't get cheap pussy since I am a superior pompous white boy. sheesh! I had my fair share of racial prejudice but I don't whine about it (Korea is famous for this shit ~ I have seen beastly ones turn down the superior Aryan race).

besides even if a girl decides to begrudgingly go with you. your service with her is bound to be shitty. I hate getting shitty service as much as getting a ugly girl.

Also a lot of these girls aren't used to dicks bigger then 3 inches. I had tons of experience (mostly in mainland) where the girl became limp after 15 minutes (in a two hour session) since she wasn't enjoying the session since i happen to be bigger then said 3 inches. [/QUOTE]
Hey Stinky,

I think you misunderstand me. I am not whining about the prejudice of the racetrack girls. I find their attitude amusing and I am conjecturing on what forms the basis of their prejudice. Since I have benefited in the past from the information provided by members of the forum, I am trying to return the favor by giving members who have not yet visited Macau some pertinent information. The bottom line I am trying to convey is that Macau is a great watering hole. The saunas are amazing. The bars are also great places to go and have some fun. By comparison, I find the Lisboa racetrack is a vastly inferior venue. Don’t you agree? I mean the eye candy is fantastic, but that's about it. I also reported that the girl's icy attitude seemed to soften towards me as they got used to my nightly visits. So it is not impossible to get a good shag here if you are patient IMO.

By the way, I don’t consider paying 800hk to 1000hk for less than 60 minutes of perfunctory service cheap pussy. If I were looking for cheap pussy, you would find me in the Yangon forum or I would be writing about the action on the other side of the border. I will gladly pay 2000hk for a great time (3 or 4 hours) in a Macau sauna, or 800hk for an enthusiastic Filipina hanging out in MP3 bar. I just don’t like getting ripped off. What does my nationality have to do with it? “Who you calling, THOSE PEOPLE?” LOL.

Other than that, I tend to agree with most of your post. Especially the quote: “if a girl decides to begrudgingly go with you … [her] service is bound to be shitty. I hate getting shitty service as much as getting a ugly girl.”

But, I don’t quite know what to make of your comment that the younger girls might not be able to handle a dick larger than 3 inches. It reminded me of a very funny scene in “Full Metal Jacket” where the Vietnamese prostitute refuses to service the black guy in the platoon saying “too beaucoup”. The black guy then whips out his dick and tells her that all he’s got down there is 9 inches of Alabama black snake and so he’s not “too beaucoup”. The girl then agrees to go with him. Very funny!

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]Hey Stinky,

I think you misunderstand me. I am not whining about the prejudice of the racetrack girls. I find their attitude amusing and I am conjecturing on what forms the basis of their prejudice. Since I have benefited in the past from the information provided by members of the forum, I am trying to return the favor by giving members who have not yet visited Macau some pertinent information. The bottom line I am trying to convey is that Macau is a great watering hole. The saunas are amazing. The bars are also great places to go and have some fun. By comparison, I find the Lisboa racetrack is a vastly inferior venue. Don’t you agree? I mean the eye candy is fantastic, but that's about it. I also reported that the girl's icy attitude seemed to soften towards me as they got used to my nightly visits. So it is not impossible to get a good shag here if you are patient IMO.
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Stinckyfeet, your burst at Natty Bumpo was unnecessary, i hope you said in the right context not a personal attack...cos he was just reporting the scene that happens when a farang goes to race track. He did not say that he holds any personal grudge against any race or girls. You got it wrong.

Im from India and when i was in race track, girls just didnt care, they did not even care about older chinese guys, they only went with young guys around 30. however, after few days of strolling, they seem to notice me and were interested in going out with me, but the language skills got the better of us. I think its more issue of cultural gap than anything else plus the language problem.

however, girls in casinos who go around slot machine seems to have no problem at all...anyway, as Natty said..Macau is a great place and it can only get better with more casinos opening up....Macau have a more liberal visa on entry from almost 150 country...so more chances of a hook up with girls from various countries.

[QUOTE=Seamaster811]
I decided to get something to eat first as I was too busy playing craps to eat dinner before. I went to the eating area and got some noodles and a beer. During my meal, a few Chinese girls came up to me to make small talk. They were all 700 series girls and wanted me to get to know them better after I was done eating. They were all quite pretty, but none of them got me going in that way, so I declined.
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Can someone confirm drinking beer is an option in 18 or is Seamaster confused ? Went there again tonight and haven't seen any beer, in Rio they told me it's forbidden yesterday and thought I was told the same in 18 a few months back.

One of the reasons I enjoy East Spa, although for sure the girls' selection is much bigger in 18.

[QUOTE=Luis1]Can someone confirm drinking beer is an option in 18 or is Seamaster confused ? Went there again tonight and haven't seen any beer, in Rio they told me it's forbidden yesterday and thought I was told the same in 18 a few months back.

One of the reasons I prefer East Spa, although for sure the girls' selection is much bigger in 18 1[/QUOTE]
Rio definetely is no alcohol, Emperor the same
They just want to avoid somebody gets intoxicated and starts messing around
Not the scene of a sauna.

[QUOTE=Bionicman]Rio definetely is no alcohol, Emperor the same
They just want to avoid somebody gets intoxicated and starts messing around
Not the scene of a sauna.[/QUOTE]


Yes I understand the idea in Rio and thought as well 18 - and somehow prefer the barlike ambiance of East Spa with booze, nigh club like lighting ans sex shows. Thought about that part and felt uneasy with Seamaster report - the part about the 100hkd tip is weird as well, where do you get a banknote from when you walk from the shower to get your shorts ???

Anyway having a good time again in Macau, although for sex I still feel I get the best service from freelancers.

Hit D2 for the firlst time last night, quite fun with a sexy mix of dancers and FLs but one can spend quite a bit on shots with the hostesses. Well over 10k last night with a mate on drinks only and when I left tonight he was going at it again with one of the romanian dancers... considering we ended up bedding overaged south east asian FLs rather than one of the hot dancers that was not a great bargain but at least sex was wild. Hangover was heavy as well, good luck to my mate for his check out and long trip back home tomorrow !

Besides this visit to D2 most noticeable event this trip happenned with the girls outside the Venetian at 4am. Noticed many times the girls there runing away from the security but nothing serious, and also that many girls are now hanging in and around the City of Dreams. By 4am there were at least 30 girls outside the Venetian and the security was kind of pushing them to street level. We selected two of them and headed inside the hotel where we were renting 2 Rialto suite for a late night party. But the security actually arrested the 2 girls and took them away somewhere in the compound although we insisted on getting them to our rooms?!? Never seen anything like that before... Quite frustrating, but we later picked up two girls from inside The Venetian - and today I moved to a Grand Suite in the MGM - which might well become my hotel of choice in Macau. Posher than Venetian and cool view over the water and bridges to Tampa but I miss the Venetian girls a little...

[QUOTE=Luis1]...... Thought about that part and felt uneasy with Seamaster report - the part about the 100hkd tip is weird as well, where do you get a banknote from when you walk from the shower to get your shorts ???
[/QUOTE] At Rio you can tip by signing a tip slip with your bracelet number and the tip will be added in your bill at check out.
I used it only when I had a hair cut and the guy insisted I tipped him, in addition to the fee, and was clear on the amount too! It ended up it costed me more than outside, lol

[QUOTE=Luis1] Hangover was heavy as well, good luck to my mate for his check out and long trip back home tomorrow ![/QUOTE] You hit the point too: heavy alcohol is never good for sex (on principle)
The saunas want you to have a good (sex)time. If you get drunk and dont enjoy sex, you might leave as an unsatisfied customer.

[QUOTE=Luis1].... We selected two of them and headed inside the hotel where we were renting 2 Rialto suite for a late night party. But the security actually arrested the 2 girls and took them away somewhere in the compound although we insisted on getting them to our rooms?!? Never seen anything like that before... ...[/QUOTE]
they might have been hardcore girls who gave troubles before...

[QUOTE=Bionicman]Rio definetely is no alcohol, Emperor the same.

They just want to avoid somebody gets intoxicated and starts messing around
Not the scene of a sauna.[/QUOTE]I've never ordered alcohol at Rio, but at 18 I can confirm that you can definitely order beer. I'm not sure whether it's free or added to your bill though.

I'm glad to see that my fellow mongers are not foolish enough to believe everything they read, but it's a little rude to suspect a report to be fabricated without any personal experience and without any other forum members saying otherwise.

I ordered beer at 18. Everyone else confirmed about alcohol not being allowed at just about every place OTHER than 18. How does that prove that I'm lying? All it proves is that 18 might be different.

As for that comment about how to tip $100 without any banknotes on me after I've stripped down and showered, you've obviously never been to a sauna in Macau, which is fine, but if you're a sauna virgin, don't make false accusations based on your own inexperience. There are more tactful ways to address your concerns.

Thanks, Bionicman, for clearing up the tipping issue for me.

I can vouch for Seamaster811.

I am a huge fan of 18 Sauna and you can definitely order beer there. I do it all the time. As Luis1 mentioned, it is not in plain sight. But again, do you see Coke or juice in plain sight at 18? No, you have to order it and someone will bring it to you.

18 is a bit of an anomaly in this regard, as most other saunas have a strict no alcohol policy. 18 relaxes the rules a bit so ensure their patrons a more relaxing time. However, they have a very strict no drunks policy too. If managements begins to feel that you've had a bit too much, they will deny you further alcohol. One time I was thirsty and finished 2 beers within half an hour. They denied me a 3rd beer even though I was perfectly fine.

As for whether the price of the beer is included in your bill or not, I'm not sure about that as they never let you have enough to make a significant difference, so I never bothered to ask.

Luis1, I think Seamaster811 may have been offended by your choice of words such as suggesting that Seamaster was "confused" about the avaliability of alcohol at 18 and you feeling "uneasy" with Seamaster's entire report because of it. Perhaps giving other members the benefit of the doubt and directing your concerns to the OP would be better decorum.

My two cents.

[QUOTE=Luis1]today I moved to a Grand Suite in the MGM - which might well become my hotel of choice in Macau. Posher than Venetian and cool view over the water and bridges to Tampa but I miss the Venetian girls a little...[/QUOTE]
Who would not like the MGM? It is a great hotel with great location, restaurants, and bar. IMHO, it is the best 5* hotel in Macau. The only downside is the price. But if you can afford it, then I say go for it!

Good to see other members corroborating Seamaster's report. As I know personally one ISG member who writes long and detailed reports about places he has never set a foot in, I become suspicious sometimes...

Was denied beers in Rio and after a couple of visits in 18 I thought it worked the same way, especially that the owner is supposedly the same person. Of those 3 saunas, East Spa would be the place with a very distinct feeling, not 18 - which I hence have visited more often,

As of the 2 girls beeing taken away in The Venetian I also considered they might have caused troubles, but it might as well come from some hotel policy. On my last visit a girl I have been with a few times was inside during daytime. I met her again late at night on the street between The Venetian and City of Dreams where lots of SW are hanging out around that time and it seemed she couldn't enter either. Considering the very few girls present inside The Venetian at that time compared to the many more earlier in the evening, it might come with some special late night policy ??

Dunno but definetely not cool to come in with two girls and see them beeing taken away. One of the girls than showed up at my room at 9.30 in the morning, I guess after the security changed shift - but that was quite a bit late for me welcoming her.

As of the MGM, considering internet is free as well as a lot of drinks in the minibar, the Grand Suite comes at about the same price as the Rialto suite in The Venetian (but with a prepaid booking in MGM), will definetely consider staying here again in the future.

[QUOTE=Seamaster811]I've never ordered alcohol at Rio, but at 18 I can confirm that you can definitely order beer. I'm not sure whether it's free or added to your bill though.

I'm glad to see that my fellow mongers are not foolish enough to believe everything they read, but it's a little rude to suspect a report to be fabricated without any personal experience and without any other forum members saying otherwise.

I ordered beer at 18. Everyone else confirmed about alcohol not being allowed at just about every place OTHER than 18. How does that prove that I'm lying? All it proves is that 18 might be different.

As for that comment about how to tip $100 without any banknotes on me after I've stripped down and showered, you've obviously never been to a sauna in Macau, which is fine, but if you're a sauna virgin, don't make false accusations based on your own inexperience. There are more tactful ways to address your concerns.

Thanks, Bionicman, for clearing up the tipping issue for me.[/QUOTE]
who is the whole of your message addressed to (apart the clear reference to myself on the last paragraph)?

[QUOTE=Bionicman]who is the whole of your message addressed to (apart the clear reference to myself on the last paragraph)?[/QUOTE]Looking at the previous posts more carefully, I would have to say Luis1. But it's cool, don't worry about it. I was just in a bad mood after reflecting on my weekend experience with the Lisboa girls so I might have took it the wrong way. I posted a report in the General Information section for anyone who's interested.

To be fair, the first sauna I ever went to was 18, and due to other members' reports about saunas' strict no alcohol policy, I never thought about ordering it. But a Chinese girl chatted me up in the lounge area and asked me if I wanted something to drink "such as Coke or beer". And I was like, "You can drink beer here? " And she said, "Of course! I'll go get it for you. " That's how I found out you can order beer at 18.

I don't know if it was special service on the girl's part because she was trying to get me to order her (which I eventually did, ha ha) or whatever, but in the 3 times I've been to 18 I've never been denied a beer, whether I order it myself or a girl who's out on the prowl gets it for me. Don't know about ordering more though, because I like to stay sober and sharp when banging these knock out models. Drunk sex is for the barely passable freebies you pick up at bars out of desperation!

[QUOTE=Luis1]Good to see other members corroborating Seamaster's report. As I know personally one ISG member who writes long and detailed reports about places he has never set a foot in, I become suspicious sometimes...

Was denied beers in Rio and after a couple of visits in 18 I thought it worked the same way, especially that the owner is supposedly the same person. Of those 3 saunas, East Spa would be the place with a very distinct feeling, not 18 - which I hence have visited more often,

As of the 2 girls beeing taken away in The Venetian I also considered they might have caused troubles, but it might as well come from some hotel policy. On my last visit a girl I have been with a few times was inside during daytime. I met her again late at night on the street between The Venetian and City of Dreams where lots of SW are hanging out around that time and it seemed she couldn't enter either. Considering the very few girls present inside The Venetian at that time compared to the many more earlier in the evening, it might come with some special late night policy ??

Dunno but definetely not cool to come in with two girls and see them beeing taken away. One of the girls than showed up at my room at 9.30 in the morning, I guess after the security changed shift - but that was quite a bit late for me welcoming her.

As of the MGM, considering internet is free as well as a lot of drinks in the minibar, the Grand Suite comes at about the same price as the Rialto suite in The Venetian (but with a prepaid booking in MGM), will definetely consider staying here again in the future.[/QUOTE]

Man, this barring freelance girls from casinos puts whole night life in macau a bit down...just sheer watching freelance girls makes life come alive...I suspect that some of the folks who own saunas would have hand in it as everything seems to be very controlled in Macau....they wouldn't want their clients going away before entering the saunas..

Its a crazy theory....just looking for someone to blame hehehe :)..Macau is a big place with many casinos...its just a matter of time..when a venue opens up becoming a hot spot for pick and meet freelancers.

Have not been to 18 in a while, but last time I was there (I think it may have been in February) was offered a beer by a "waiter" dude, but at that time it did cost and came with a "beer girl" who would hang out in your chair while you would drink the beer. Dont remember the cost, think it was something like HKD 200 (including a girl for I guess 10-20 minutes).

The guy was really pitching for the whole beer and a girl thing at the time, got to be pretty annoying towards the end since we were not interested.

This may have been a trial thing (the beer + "beer girl") they were doing at the time since in previous visits before I never witnessed it.

btw: they were offering Heineken at this time I was there :-)

[QUOTE=Henio]Have not been to 18 in a while, but last time I was there (I think it may have been in February) was offered a beer by a "waiter" dude, but at that time it did cost and came with a "beer girl" who would hang out in your chair while you would drink the beer. Dont remember the cost, think it was something like HKD 200 (including a girl for I guess 10-20 minutes).

The guy was really pitching for the whole beer and a girl thing at the time, got to be pretty annoying towards the end since we were not interested.

This may have been a trial thing (the beer + "beer girl") they were doing at the time since in previous visits before I never witnessed it.

btw: they were offering Heineken at this time I was there :-)[/QUOTE]

This might explain the comments of Seamaster: additional service for a price.
Saunaa in Macau are often pushing for side services (pedicure, manicure, ear massage, head massage...)
So, why not adding a "Beer option with a girl"?
At Rio, last year I noticed a new service: japanese shower. Just off the locker area, before the usual showers, a girl invites you to sit in a cubicle for a 15 minutes handwash performed by the cutie.+
Easy to go for it, and another 170 MOP added to the bill at check out, lol

[QUOTE=Henio]Have not been to 18 in a while, but last time I was there (I think it may have been in February) was offered a beer by a "waiter" dude, but at that time it did cost and came with a "beer girl" who would hang out in your chair while you would drink the beer. Dont remember the cost, think it was something like HKD 200 (including a girl for I guess 10-20 minutes).

The guy was really pitching for the whole beer and a girl thing at the time, got to be pretty annoying towards the end since we were not interested.

This may have been a trial thing (the beer + "beer girl") they were doing at the time since in previous visits before I never witnessed it.

btw: they were offering Heineken at this time I was there :-)[/QUOTE]So you're saying that if I hadn't taken the girl for a session they would have charged me 200 just for drinking with her? Wow, what a rip!

However, if that's the case, I think the 200 is deducted if you do indeed order the girl because I didn't notice an extra 200 on my bill.

Can anyone else shed some light on this?

In the meantime, I'll only be ordering beer from girls that I want to take for a main course.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]Seamaster, that was an informative report on the Venetian food court girls. Next time I am in Macau, I will have to check out that scene. I love Chinese eye candy.

When I was last in Macau in March, I stopped by the Lisboa racetrack every night for 15 to 20 minutes on my way to MGM Grand or MP3 bar. There is something about seeing attractive Chinese working girls dressed up nice wandering around the mall that is intoxicating. But my experiences were similar to others.

1st night, the girls walked past me and gave me no eye contact. After about 10 minutes of watching the girls walk by as I drank some mango juice I purchased at the fruit store, I stopped one and said hi. She got down to business real quick and asked 1400hk. I smiled and said that was too beaucoup. I told her I knew the real price was 800hk. She said yes, but that was for Chinese men only. You no Chinese. I said damn right! I am an American and is not my money just as good as Chinese man's money. She reiterated 1400hk. I smiled, said no thanks it's your loss, and walked away.

2nd night was more of the same. The girls tried their best to ignore me as they passed by while I drank my mango juice. I just acted like I did not give a damn, and I didn't because I was getting all I needed and then some in the saunas and bars. A funny incident occurred while I was there that night. An old Chinese geezer (he must have been around 70) walked into the arcade. 4 or 5 of the hottest girls literally threw themselves at this 3 pack a day leathered old crocodile. I could not believe it. It was one of the most amazing things I saw on the trip!

3rd day I started to get some looks from a couple of girls and one girl even smiled and approached me. She was not the hottest of the bunch, but she was OK. We talked a little, she gave me the lowdown and then she gave me her quote: 1000hk. Now, if she had been one of the really pretty girls I would have given her a try and I still think it might have been interesting, but instead I politely declined her offer.

My take on this is that the Lisboa girls are very reluctant to get it on with Western men. This attitude is definitely based on prejudice and ignorance. But, if you have the time and the patience the ice will melt. Would it be worthwhile to put in the necessary effort in order to get it on with one of superstar fillies? Maybe, but since there are so many really fine Chinese girls just waiting for handsome western man in the saunas; a racetrack girl's attitude would have do a complete 180 before I would spend my hard earned money and go upstairs with one. Just walk into MP3 bar around midnight. That is the attitude I'm talking about!

Next time, I will give the Venetian girls a look see. I like “B” cups and “A” cups, but I am a real sucker for a pretty face. "C" cups are ok too, but "D's" are too much of a good thing unless the girl is very young, IMHO. One thing we can agree upon: the saunas in Macau are #1.[/QUOTE]I was in Macau back in July and was talking with one of the Lisboa girls. The main reason they are reluctant to have "laowai" (foreigners) customers is because "laowai have diseases". :-)

[QUOTE=Seamaster811]So you're saying that if I hadn't taken the girl for a session they would have charged me 200 just for drinking with her? Wow, what a rip!

However, if that's the case, I think the 200 is deducted if you do indeed order the girl because I didn't notice an extra 200 on my bill.

Can anyone else shed some light on this?

In the meantime, I'll only be ordering beer from girls that I want to take for a main course.[/QUOTE] Actually I do not remember what the price was, but I do remember thinking "nah, I aint that thirsty for beer" when I heard the price. I do not go much to 18 any more as I think they are a bit overpriced. Every now and then when I have a friend that has never been to a sauna I will take him to 18 just for the sheer volume of girls there, but personally I like the smaller mid price saunas such as Sanado, East, Golden.... There the girls will hang out with the clients casually without you having to buy overpriced beer and your bill at the end of your visit will be something like 40% less....and dont get me started on Rio or Supreme, rip-off prices IMO.

While I am a firm believer in VFM service, I could not control the temptation for sauna scene after reading so many hot reports.

I went last month in Macau and visited Rio, very close to where I was put up. They had sauna on 7th floor, if I am not mistaken and charges where quite high. For one hour, I was quoted HK 1600 where the fun would include initial play with few girls. I found the same to be quite high and left and went to Golden, not very far from Rio.

At Golden the format was same except that they also had two more joints for the fun. On one I was told no sex only music. At other the foramt was same as Rio and I found it to be quire high. On other joint, there was pole dance and live fuck show- charges MOP 400. I went in there, hardly there were 4-5 people, two east europeans girls came and started dance seperately and slowly removed all the clothes and danced beautifully on the pole. I did not get exicited but I had to appreciate their skills on the pole. Next was a live fuck show where one lady came and started to move her body erotically on round table which was moving. She was joined by another hunk and they danced together and then slowly girl removed all clothes and got engaged into foreplay. The guy went backstage and the girl was joined by another chick, both of them did foreplay including eating the pussies. Then the hunk came out with his rod tight and upright (inside perhaps he was trying to arouse himself !) and started to fuck the first girl in all the position. Well I did not find the whole show so exiciting as it is made out in promos as I thoguht both were acting like a machine. The whole fucking may have lasted 10 minutes and I wonder how the fellow cound not stop coming, he did not and left the show in between.

Enjoy and take care..

I have never been to another sauna in Macau so I really have no basis of comparison, all I can say is that on this Friday night Sauna 18 is as good as every previous time I have been there.

Probably 80+ girls when I arrived at 11:30PM, line ups every 1 1/4 hour, becoming more frequent as the night progresses and the selection decreases to about 40 girls at 4AM.

Had an attractive lady in bikini shower me, she started quick kisses on the lips after a while, very nice, I had 2 showers in a row, just to get in the mood.

I am still trying to understand the numbering system, my first girl was 605 blue tag, Vietnamese, she told me the Vietnamese girls are in the 600 and 700 series but could not tell me the difference. Body body, tongue bath, BBBJ, ice, smiling all the time (which is why I picked her), a nice experience overall in spite of her fake breasts.

For seconds I was going to select 816, a tall Chinese, from the lineup, but when I turned around she was already gone! I picked 276 instead because of her looks and pink swimming suit, wondering what kind of service I would get from a girl with a low number. She was Chinese from Shanxi province, did not speak a word of English, I tried to explain where I am from after she asked but she never got it. She was not smiling much but the service was even better than the first girl, in addition to the rest, anal rimming and BBBJ with ice and hot water were performed without me asking, since we could not communicate and a very long BBBJ in which I almost finished. MPOS and I think she came in CG, and a fantastic doggy finish about 10 seconds before the phone rung. Low number, outstanding experience which left Mahal breathless.

4:45 AM, I am spending the night here (better than to pay for a hotel), and there is another show starting as I type these lines. Can I do thirds?

Had a thigh massage which failed to wake up little Mahal, the average looking masseuse tried to hook me up with, and buy beers for, a couple attractive ladies hanging around in the lounge, but I passed, waiting for the final line up of the day, which still had about 20 girls.

Ended up getting another session with 276, her name is pronounced Mama, from the 5:45AM line up, BBBJTC, she is a sweetheart.

[QUOTE=Marad39]While I am a firm believer in VFM service, I could not control the temptation for sauna scene after reading so many hot reports.

I went last month in Macau and visited Rio, very close to where I was put up. They had sauna on 7th floor, if I am not mistaken and charges where quite high. For one hour, I was quoted HK 1600 where the fun would include initial play with few girls. I found the same to be quite high and left and went to Golden, not very far from Rio.

Enjoy and take care..[/QUOTE]Rio's sauna is on 5th floor, but dont worry...nobody will miss it.
There is always somebody stopping there in any hotel elevator! lol
Sometime a girl arrives to shift through the guest elevators, so follow her, unless she goes servicing someone in a room on after shift duty:)

[QUOTE=Mahal]

4:45 AM, I am spending the night here (better than to pay for a hotel), and there is another show starting as I type these lines. Can I do thirds?[/QUOTE]

Wow...Go for it...I never had past one anywhere...its too much for me...Yep Sauna 18 is everyman's dream...i could work for free there if they give me one girl a day :)

Hey Mahal on a side note..if you are still in Macau...could you check D2 disco and other clubs like MGM lion's bars etc and how are freelancers there..an experience in sauna drains my energy completely...this trip i wanna take things real slow....

thanks

[QUOTE=Henio]Actually I do not remember what the price was, but I do remember thinking "nah, I aint that thirsty for beer" when I heard the price.....[/QUOTE] Update: Beer is 34HKD. Was at 18 for first time in a while. They allow the girls now to wander the halls and try to chat up the clients which is a nice change from the previous sterile atmosphere at 18. I guess they are learning from the success of some of the smaller saunas.

[QUOTE=Henio]Update: Beer is 34HKD. Was at 18 for first time in a while. They allow the girls now to wander the halls and try to chat up the clients which is a nice change from the previous sterile atmosphere at 18. I guess they are learning from the success of some of the smaller saunas.[/QUOTE]
good in one way and bad if they start pestering you like leg or feet or manicure providers in quite some sauna...get a bit annoying after the tenth time they come by with "foot massagee?"

[QUOTE=Henio]Update: Beer is 34HKD. Was at 18 for first time in a while. They allow the girls now to wander the halls and try to chat up the clients which is a nice change from the previous sterile atmosphere at 18. I guess they are learning from the success of some of the smaller saunas.[/QUOTE]

Thats good news....how many girls in Sauna 18 speaks english...i always wanted to take a english speaking girl for a meet up afterwards...i think this time i would be possible :)

Everyone seems to agree 18 Sauna is a must see attraction so I booked a room in Golden Dragon just to facilitate my experience. My room was in the main building while the Sauna is in the side building. I took the elevator down to the Casino level and walked to the other side to where the elevators for the side building are located. After checking in at the front desk I was led to a locker area to undress and given a key with number on it and pointed to the direction of the pool. From there on I received no further instructions from the staff, they probably thought I am a regular, so for the benefit of potential 1st-timers visiting the sauna I have outlined the procedure for ya:

1. After undressing and putting your stuff away in a locker, you will be given a key, a towel and then led into the main pool area, turn left and you will see the showers, there will be golden color bath ropes hanging by the shower station, feel free to put them on after you washed up.

2. Next you can then either stay around the pool area waiting for the show to begin, or get some sort of massage by couple of the girls (average looking) dressed in bikinis, you will be better off going to the lounge area (left around the corner), there's a sit down restaurant in the back where you can order food from the menu for free.

3. After eating relax in the lounge, pick any reclining sofa chair with folded towel on top, within seconds of your appearance you will be pestered for services (massage, nail, ear cleaning, etc.) by staff but just politely shake your head if you don't want any. If the show/parade starts you just head back to the pool area to enjoy the spectacle.

4. The parade of girls is amazing, a seemingly endless number of gorgeous young women in Bikinis marched out into the pool area to be displayed for your viewing pleasure, every 30 seconds or so the line will move going counter-clock wise to ensure every guy has a good view of all the girls. It's like going to the miss Asia pageant and then picking one from the line-up to take home. Once you spot the girl you like tell the guys (in red Hawain shirt) her number and your girl will be let away from the line up to get ready for your rendezvous.

6. After making the pick you can still kill some time by staying in the pool area looking at the parade of gorgeous woman, or return to the lounge area to wait for them to call your number and take you to down stairs to your respective rooms.

Now as for my experience it was not as fulfilling as some of the others mentioned in this forum.

1. During my shower apparently there's show going on, I went outside and saw a tall thin Asian girl dancing naked in the middle of the room while 20-30 guys gathered around to gawk and cheer. She was a tall thin Asian girl with slim figures, long legs, long waist length hair, and probably a B cup albeit with nice nipples. Considering the talent I heard about in this place I didn't think she is a good shag, but beauty/fantasy is in the eyes of the beholder, for at the end of her routine when the manager asked who wanted her, at least 4-5 hands went up. Not sure how they decide who gets the prize.

2. Anyway once she made her exit, music starts again and outcomes the parade of the ladies. Despite numerous reports I have read from other members I still wasn't sure if I was dreaming, practically you have endless number of the hottest young girls in the world just parading around, stopping and moving every minute in a counter-clock manner to ensure every guy has a good look. There were at least 40 guys in the room, so be prepared to be pushed and jostled (rude Chinese tourists), so I found it better to just stay at either end of crowd, from there you can't miss anything. The girls are mostly pageant beauty quality, I was surprised to see most girls (even the Asian ones) appeared taller than 5'6" (my height), but I neglected they had high heels on. There only 1 caucasian girl and 1 African American girl. Practically all of the girls wear push up bra so be warned.

3. Ignoring warnings from members of this forum, I made the classic mistake of picking a hot looking Asian chick that didn't smile as much or look friendly/willing as the others, probably a 20-22, 5'2'-5'3" (after her heals came off), even with push-up bra I predicted it will be at least a nice see if not natural D, slim waist and nice butt. After making the selection I stay just to enjoy the other eye candies in the line-up. I noticed that even though there were over 30 guys in the room, no more than 15-20 guys picked by the end. I suspect the others already had their session and were just there to kill time and enjoy the show. There are a practically endless number of beauties to pick from so even if "the 1" is taken by someone else, there will be lots more left.

4. Now to my session, the moment she entered I knew it wasn't going to be good. She mumbled something in greatings and took her time putting her stuff away and stripping, didn't make any eye contact or attempt to converse. It was practically at least 5 minute before she said another word. Her body was very nice as I have suspected, nice natural tear drop the cup, face an 8 with perfect white teeth but she rarely smiled. The room is a standard small place with a full size bed with mirrors on the side and a small TV. There is an adjacent shower room with a very nice water bed and shower. She gave me a very mechanic wash with some soap and several strokes of my member, but I did enjoy the part where she rubbed her tits up and down the body. Since I speak passable Mandarin I tried to start a conversation but she seemed disinterested and only gave brief answers.

5. After toweling dry on my own (she didn't even offered to help) we went to bed and she did her mundane routine of brief BBBJ, RIM, minimal massage. Anyway she probably wanted the session to end as much as I did. So I took her mission, doggie on knee, then more doggie lying flat on bed as I took my frustration out by pounding her from behind and above. When we were done I quickly showered-again she didn't even try to help me, and left the room with more than 10 min left on the clock but I wasn't complaining

6. After the session I was a little pissed and very hungry so I went to the restaurant for a bite, noodle soup with ham and egg, dumplings, food is free so ignore the prices on the menu. It's interesting that part of the restaurant "menu" contains listing for the "service" with prices listed, after hearing the glowing review of the "thigh" massage I knew I had to try. Off I went to the lounge area, soon as I sat down a Cantonese speaking lady (mid-late 30's) came over and offered "thigh massage" so nodded. She also offered to have her friends give me head and feet massage at the same time so I said why not. Strange as it might sound, after an unfulfilling session with a 21 y/o hottie, it felt good to be pampered by 3 middle-aged women at the same time. The thigh massage was definitely as good as advertised by this forum. If I hadn't shag the 21 y/o just 20 min ago I probably would have cum right there. She was very liberal with lotion and paid attention to the sensitive areas. It was the best HJ I had ever received hands down. Since I speak fluent Cantonese I was able to converse with her and her friends. The head-masseuse (again probably late 30's and actually descent looking) said she gets off in half an hour and gave me a wink. When I told them I live right at Golden Dragon, the thigh masseuse hinted she can get a girl to my room overnight for $2000 MOP. Based on the info on this forum I know you can pick up a girl from MP3/DD2/DD3/Holiday inn area for $1000 over night. I was told this girl is cute, nice butt, big tits, a few extra pounds but other wise in good shape, in her late 20's, but more importantly she's very friendly and accommodating. We then started to negotiate but she didn't budge so I said what the heck. I needed some GFE and TLC for the night and her "thigh" massage is fogging my head. Apparently this sort of off the record offers occurs even though the employee may get in trouble if the management finds out. BTW, the whole experience at 18 costs a little over $2220 MOP, including head/feet/thigh massage.

Based on my only experience 18 Sauna is a good place to go if you like to look at probably the largest line-up of hot girls in Asia. Other than that the service was not that good, I am glad I was there to enjoy the parade of gals but would not repeat. I had a much better experience in Sanado (see my other post)

This probably the best sauna experience I have ever had hands down.

Thanks to tips from the members of this forum I got there before 5 pm where you are automatically qualify for an 80% discount. It's clear that the management of this establishment have made it their mission to make this an enjoyable experience for the clients.

1. After being greeted you are giving a listing of service and prices with a brief explanation by 1 of the manager. You can choose your own gal for a higher price of have the manager's pick (usually a Vietnamese gal) for less than 700 HKD. I chose the latter option but soon change my mind later after seeing the line-up.

2. After given a locker, you are let just down the corridor to take a shower, it's not just a shower, there are actually 3-5 girls standing there and you are asked to pick 1 to help you. Keep in mind this does not have to be the girl whom you will shag later although that can be arranged if you like her enough. The girl will help to you lather up with soap and clean your body thoroughly-all private parts, that includes a brief BBBJ which is great.

3. Next you will move in to the hot pool area, it's probably a 30 by 15 feet, as members of the forum pointed out as long as you are in there one of the girls is suppose to come to the pool topless and give you complementary light massage, this is included as the admission. Of the 2 occasions that I was there, I had to ask the manager to send the girls in, as they were either busy or intentionally ignoring me as they walked by.

4. After which you are led into the lounge which is fairy similar to other Saunas. The only difference is folks here are less pushy to sell you their services as compare to 18 Sauna. I opted for a nice thigh massage by a Vietnamese girl but I made it clear that I didn't want to cum. She is not 1 of the full service girls, like most of the Vietnamese girls here she spoke some Cantonese and we were able to talk a bit.

5. What separates Sanado from other places is definitely the show, or the "Yoqi" (game) as they called it. I went there on 2 consecutive days and the scheme was the same: "sexy chef show". I saw the 5pm show on Saturday and the 11pm show on Sunday. The girls wore white chef outfit which includes a cap, semi see-thru apron (no bra) and a mini-skirt (no panties)! The best way to judge the quality of their breasts is from the side, since they wear no bra (like other places) you will have a fairy accurate estimate of its size and shape from the side. Now keep in mind that at the start I chose the Sauna's special package in which they pick the gal for me, yet they still let me participate in the "Yoqi".

6. The routines and the girl: client ratio varied for the "game" during my 2 visits. On Saturday afternoon there was 1 girl for every 2 guys with the same girl rotating between the same 2 guys, the "games" including light kissing of your ear, sitting on and grinding on your groin, semi-HJ through your pajama and fondling of her breast. Sunday 11pm show was much better, each guy was "entertained" by 3 different girls during the whole process, beside the usually ear kissing, fondling of breast the girl will clean your penis with wet nap and then give you a 1 min BBBJ which is great. All the while you can see the girls' exposed kitties across from you. Again the management did their best to make sure you enjoy the experience, some of the clients were a bit passive during the show and a female manager was walking around and putting guys hands on the girls butts and back during the routine, vow!

7. One thing I have to point out is that the number tag on the girls outfits were rather small and are almost impossible to spot especially during the show as it can get a little dark and foggy (special affect), there were a couple of beauties I wanted to shag but couldn't read their number from where I was. After the show, the girls (probably 30-40, was told 90% Chinese and a few Vietnamese) are paraded quickly in and out of your lounge area. They were moving too fast (in and out of your booth in <10 seconds) & their number tag was small so by the time you see a girl you like she's already by you and you don't even catch her number. Anyway next they will divide the girls into group of 8-10 and lead them into your lounge area for the guys to pick, if you don't like the ones you see just wait for the next batch. The quality of the girls face wise I say 7-10, all young. Some of them looked like they are still in high school, mostly lean and fit with slim waist, well-toned legs/thighs and hairy kitties. Thanks to the chef outfit you can clearly see their breasts from the side and I can tell most if not all have real breasts, they are probably mostly C's and some B's but with a few the talents. This is a far cry from the boob jobs and push up bras that you see in 18 Sauna or Darling 1.

8. Once you picked the girl, she will go change into a different costume and bring you a "menu" in which 20 types of "activities" are listed, they are more like fore-plays. You can pick up to 6 in addition to the 4 standard acts that are already checked off. Though in reality they rarely do all of them. The "menu" is very user-friendly, the names as well as the description of each acts are written in Chinese and English: some of which including special AR (more like the hot and cold technique but AR instead of BJ), rubbing your feet on her boobs, boobs massage, BBBJ is already included but make sure you choose the 360 BJ, it's fun. The room is pretty standard, a size double bed, with an adjacent shower. Once in room, the girl will treat you like a king. Helping you to undress and give you a quick soapy shower before the fun begins. She will scan the service menu you checked off to try to do as many as she can within that 1 hr period but I was told by my gal that they never do all 10 of those acts. The weird part is when you are done with her, you are asked to rate her service on that form before signing it. I think that's another reason why the girls treat you right.

9. Even though at the start I went with the cheaper manager's pick package, I changed my mind after seeing the line-up, besides I figure I can communicate better with a Chinese gal. When I was at 18 sauna I made the classic mistake of picking a hot girl who wasn't smiling as much, so this time I chose a cute Chinese girl who was looking and smiling at me, it was hard to estimate her breast size from the front (the only downside of their chef outfit) but I estimated it to be at least C, as it turned out it was a natural D! She was very accommodating during our session, she didn't wear as much make up as the other girls, had a very nice round butt, was probably only 5'2. She started out a reserved shy but did allow me to touch her freely during in the shower. As I speak passable mandarin we were able to communicate. She's from Hunan province but lives in Guangzhou, like most of the working gals from Mainland she can only stay up to 7 days in Macau each time, then she will cross the border to Zuhai for a few days then back to Macau for another week, she can do this I think up to 6 times but the visa is only good for a 6 months.

10. On bed she did her routine from the checklist, the 360 BJ was the best. When we were aligned in the 69 position I helped myself to some DATY and she moaned in ecstasy and did not protest. I guess it depends on the girl but she allowed GFE and DFK all the way. I did multi-position and finished in mission while DFK, it was great. So much so that I requested for her again the next night

11. FYI the girl's 3 digit number may not be the same each day, but they all have a "permanent" 4 digit number. So my girl was #207 but she told me her permanent number was #7567. So if you find a girl you are addicted to, ask for that 4 digit number. After our 2nd night I actually asked her to come to my hotel after work which she did and we had more fun. I did my homework and booked 2 nights in the Holiday Inn which is about 100 feet from Sanado, I saw at least another 3 saunas within 200 meters of that hotel including Sands, and it's only 5 min walk to Hotel Lisboa where you can get all the actions. I asked my gal if she can travel with me to Hong Kong for a few days but she couldn't as her passport only had visa for Macau and not for Hong Kong, besides if she leaves before the end of her 7 day tour the management there will resent it and may not rehire her next time

12. Summary: I have been to Darling 1 (twice), 18 Sauna, Yuping in Shanghai, Elephant at KL, and multiple places in Calif. Sanado by far was my best experience. Everyone from the managers to the girls will do their best to please you. The girls are of good qualities but keep in mind it will be mostly Chinese and only a few Vietnamese. They also give you a coupon which offers either a complementary 20 min baby oil bath or 15 min YuenYang shower on your subsequent visits, on my 2nd night I used the coupon for the baby oil bath (more like massage) with another pretty gal.

Damage was around $1300 HKD if you pick your own gal but 20% discount if before 5pm, or manager's pick for approximately $700-800 HKD

Will definitely repeat!

Been to Macau a few times and all I manage to experience is the Lisboa "Racetrack" girls. I supposed because they move around from time to time?

Spend a goood MOP800 and IDR100000 my Indonesian currency.

As it was my first time, I thought MOP would do just fine. But she demanded HKD which I have spent on the casino (the MOP800 is prepared for the girls indeed, but I think I forget it have to be HKD). But then I said my currency of 100000 is about 50USD (which I feel very guilty now)

Overall, superb experience. 8/10 face JAV lookalike big a nice handful of see Cup firm boobies and pink nippies, though service is usual as I think she may rush it a bit to get more revenue for the day.

Will be visiting again this months, hopefully can try 18 Sauna. Anyone could give me some headsup for the rate and system there?

Thank you

[QUOTE=Mrpatsfan]Everyone seems to agree 18 Sauna is a must see attraction so I booked a room in Golden Dragon just to facilitate my experience. ................

Based on my only experience 18 Sauna is a good place to go if you like to look at probably the largest line-up of hot girls in Asia. Other than that the service was not that good, I am glad I was there to enjoy the parade of gals but would not repeat. I had a much better experience in Sanado (see my other post)[/QUOTE]
Was the thigh massage performed in the lounge?
Not much interested in YOUR outcome (lol) but does she leads you to a HE or teases you but no end?

[QUOTE=Abvodsolutka]Been to Macau a few times and all I manage to experience is the Lisboa "Racetrack" girls. I supposed because they move around from time to time?

Spend a goood MOP800 and IDR100000 my Indonesian currency.

As it was my first time, I thought MOP would do just fine. But she demanded HKD which I have spent on the casino (the MOP800 is prepared for the girls indeed, but I think I forget it have to be HKD). But then I said my currency of 100000 is about 50USD (which I feel very guilty now)

Overall, superb experience. 8/10 face JAV lookalike big a nice handful of see Cup firm boobies and pink nippies, though service is usual as I think she may rush it a bit to get more revenue for the day.

Will be visiting again this months, hopefully can try 18 Sauna. Anyone could give me some headsup for the rate and system there?

Thank you[/QUOTE]
Wrong calculation: 100000 IDR is about 12 USD and you spent 1 juta (mio).
800 MOP is 100 USD and for what you get at the racetrack, it is more than enough (see a pair of fake boobs and stick it in a couple of times). Very rarely do you get more there.

[QUOTE=Bionicman]Was the thigh massage performed in the lounge?
Not much interested in YOUR outcome (lol) but does she leads you to a HE or teases you but no end?[/QUOTE]
Definitely no end as the reason is too make you hot enough to spend more.

Thanks for the excellent report on Sanado, mrpatsfan! I made a link to it in Reports of Distinction so it is not lost.

[QUOTE=Mrpatsfan]This probably the best sauna experience I have ever had hands down.

Thanks to tips from the members of this forum I got there before 5 pm where you are automatically qualify for an 80% discount. It's clear that the management of this establishment have made it their mission to make this an enjoyable experience for the clients.

1. After being greeted you are giving a listing of service and prices with a brief explanation by 1 of the manager. You can choose your own gal for a higher price of have the manager's pick (usually a Vietnamese gal) for less than 700 HKD. I chose the latter option but soon change my mind later after seeing the line-up.

2. After given a locker, you are let just down the corridor to take a shower, it's not just a shower, there are actually 3-5 girls standing there and you are asked to pick 1 to help you. Keep in mind this does not have to be the girl whom you will shag later although that can be arranged if you like her enough. The girl will help to you lather up with soap and clean your body thoroughly-all private parts, that includes a brief BBBJ which is great.

3. Next you will move in to the hot pool area, it's probably a 30 by 15 feet, as members of the forum pointed out as long as you are in there one of the girls is suppose to come to the pool topless and give you complementary light massage, this is included as the admission. Of the 2 occasions that I was there, I had to ask the manager to send the girls in, as they were either busy or intentionally ignoring me as they walked by.

4. After which you are led into the lounge which is fairy similar to other Saunas. The only difference is folks here are less pushy to sell you their services as compare to 18 Sauna. I opted for a nice thigh massage by a Vietnamese girl but I made it clear that I didn't want to cum. She is not 1 of the full service girls, like most of the Vietnamese girls here she spoke some Cantonese and we were able to talk a bit.

5. What separates Sanado from other places is definitely the show, or the "Yoqi" (game) as they called it. I went there on 2 consecutive days and the scheme was the same: "sexy chef show". I saw the 5pm show on Saturday and the 11pm show on Sunday. The girls wore white chef outfit which includes a cap, semi see-thru apron (no bra) and a mini-skirt (no panties)! The best way to judge the quality of their breasts is from the side, since they wear no bra (like other places) you will have a fairy accurate estimate of its size and shape from the side. Now keep in mind that at the start I chose the Sauna's special package in which they pick the gal for me, yet they still let me participate in the "Yoqi".

6. The routines and the girl: client ratio varied for the "game" during my 2 visits. On Saturday afternoon there was 1 girl for every 2 guys with the same girl rotating between the same 2 guys, the "games" including light kissing of your ear, sitting on and grinding on your groin, semi-HJ through your pajama and fondling of her breast. Sunday 11pm show was much better, each guy was "entertained" by 3 different girls during the whole process, beside the usually ear kissing, fondling of breast the girl will clean your penis with wet nap and then give you a 1 min BBBJ which is great. All the while you can see the girls' exposed kitties across from you. Again the management did their best to make sure you enjoy the experience, some of the clients were a bit passive during the show and a female manager was walking around and putting guys hands on the girls butts and back during the routine, vow!

7. One thing I have to point out is that the number tag on the girls outfits were rather small and are almost impossible to spot especially during the show as it can get a little dark and foggy (special affect), there were a couple of beauties I wanted to shag but couldn't read their number from where I was. After the show, the girls (probably 30-40, was told 90% Chinese and a few Vietnamese) are paraded quickly in and out of your lounge area. They were moving too fast (in and out of your booth in <10 seconds) & their number tag was small so by the time you see a girl you like she's already by you and you don't even catch her number. Anyway next they will divide the girls into group of 8-10 and lead them into your lounge area for the guys to pick, if you don't like the ones you see just wait for the next batch. The quality of the girls face wise I say 7-10, all young. Some of them looked like they are still in high school, mostly lean and fit with slim waist, well-toned legs/thighs and hairy kitties. Thanks to the chef outfit you can clearly see their breasts from the side and I can tell most if not all have real breasts, they are probably mostly C's and some B's but with a few the talents. This is a far cry from the boob jobs and push up bras that you see in 18 Sauna or Darling 1.

8. Once you picked the girl, she will go change into a different costume and bring you a "menu" in which 20 types of "activities" are listed, they are more like fore-plays. You can pick up to 6 in addition to the 4 standard acts that are already checked off. Though in reality they rarely do all of them. The "menu" is very user-friendly, the names as well as the description of each acts are written in Chinese and English: some of which including special AR (more like the hot and cold technique but AR instead of BJ), rubbing your feet on her boobs, boobs massage, BBBJ is already included but make sure you choose the 360 BJ, it's fun. The room is pretty standard, a size double bed, with an adjacent shower. Once in room, the girl will treat you like a king. Helping you to undress and give you a quick soapy shower before the fun begins. She will scan the service menu you checked off to try to do as many as she can within that 1 hr period but I was told by my gal that they never do all 10 of those acts. The weird part is when you are done with her, you are asked to rate her service on that form before signing it. I think that's another reason why the girls treat you right.

9. Even though at the start I went with the cheaper manager's pick package, I changed my mind after seeing the line-up, besides I figure I can communicate better with a Chinese gal. When I was at 18 sauna I made the classic mistake of picking a hot girl who wasn't smiling as much, so this time I chose a cute Chinese girl who was looking and smiling at me, it was hard to estimate her breast size from the front (the only downside of their chef outfit) but I estimated it to be at least C, as it turned out it was a natural D! She was very accommodating during our session, she didn't wear as much make up as the other girls, had a very nice round butt, was probably only 5'2. She started out a reserved shy but did allow me to touch her freely during in the shower. As I speak passable mandarin we were able to communicate. She's from Hunan province but lives in Guangzhou, like most of the working gals from Mainland she can only stay up to 7 days in Macau each time, then she will cross the border to Zuhai for a few days then back to Macau for another week, she can do this I think up to 6 times but the visa is only good for a 6 months.

10. On bed she did her routine from the checklist, the 360 BJ was the best. When we were aligned in the 69 position I helped myself to some DATY and she moaned in ecstasy and did not protest. I guess it depends on the girl but she allowed GFE and DFK all the way. I did multi-position and finished in mission while DFK, it was great. So much so that I requested for her again the next night

11. FYI the girl's 3 digit number may not be the same each day, but they all have a "permanent" 4 digit number. So my girl was #207 but she told me her permanent number was #7567. So if you find a girl you are addicted to, ask for that 4 digit number. After our 2nd night I actually asked her to come to my hotel after work which she did and we had more fun. I did my homework and booked 2 nights in the Holiday Inn which is about 100 feet from Sanado, I saw at least another 3 saunas within 200 meters of that hotel including Sands, and it's only 5 min walk to Hotel Lisboa where you can get all the actions. I asked my gal if she can travel with me to Hong Kong for a few days but she couldn't as her passport only had visa for Macau and not for Hong Kong, besides if she leaves before the end of her 7 day tour the management there will resent it and may not rehire her next time

12. Summary: I have been to Darling 1 (twice), 18 Sauna, Yuping in Shanghai, Elephant at KL, and multiple places in Calif. Sanado by far was my best experience. Everyone from the managers to the girls will do their best to please you. The girls are of good qualities but keep in mind it will be mostly Chinese and only a few Vietnamese. They also give you a coupon which offers either a complementary 20 min baby oil bath or 15 min YuenYang shower on your subsequent visits, on my 2nd night I used the coupon for the baby oil bath (more like massage) with another pretty gal.

Damage was around $1300 HKD if you pick your own gal but 20% discount if before 5pm, or manager's pick for approximately $700-800 HKD

Will definitely repeat![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tiger 888]Definitely no end as the reason is too make you hot enough to spend more.[/QUOTE]
That was my thought too.
Same strategy as my experience at Rio, awsome and "disappointing" at the same time.
Obviously makes sense to the sauna, less to us.
Should call it "The (blue) balls massage" lol

[QUOTE=Bionicman]Was the thigh massage performed in the lounge?

Not much interested in YOUR outcome (LOL) but does she leads you to a HE or teases you but no end?[/QUOTE]-In 18 Sauna it was done in the lounge in full view of other clients which I don't like, although she places a towel over your groin to provide some measure of cover. I think the thigh massage in 18 Sauna was meant for a tease and not for HE, anytime she felt I was getting too excited she slowed down.

-In Sanado the thigh massage was done in a private room which provided better privacy. The cute Vietnamese girl who did my thigh massage actually asked me if I wanted full release which I declined as I was saving it for the main event. The thigh massage gals here are younger and much prettier than 18 sauna, but keep in mind they are not FS ladies.

Was so horny after a 16 hours flight. Went to the travel agent in Shun Tak Center and bought a ticket to 18 Sauna. This was my first time to go there. After an hour of turbojet, took a cab to the Golden Dragon Hotel and 18 Sauna was on the 6th floor. Gave the manager my coupon and was handed a key to my locker. A guy followed me and gave me a towel after I was undressed. It was a very busy Friday night; guys were everywhere, and there were a few white guys as well. I started showering and I heard some load music and the show started in the bathing area. About 100 girls in their bikinis and high heels started to line up around the tub and guys were rushing out of the lounge. Of course I stopped showering and went to see this amazing event. Never seen anything like this before, so many girls to choose from while I was almost naked. It was too crowded, so I decided to go back to take a shower.

Went to the lounge afterwards, and it wasn't easy to find a seat. After I found my spot and ordered a drink, some older lady asked me if I wanted some foot massage. After a day of flight, that would be a good treat before the main course. I was curious about the thigh massage too, so I asked them for a trial. It was basically a handjob covered by a towel in the lounge area. Everyone knew what she was jerking me off even it was under a towel. She was pretty generous in terms of apply the oil. At first, I was so shy to be jerk off in the lounge that I couldn't get my dick hard and the lady was saying I wasn't cooperating. After I saw other guys were enjoying their "thigh" massage in the public, I started to feel not as embarrassed and relax. I closed my eyes and imagined she's my girlfriend and I got my erection back. After like 20 minutes of jerking, I rock hard dick was still not blowing the load, she asked me for a second part which I agreed since everywhere was still super busy. She kept jerking me and caressing my thighs, my stomach, even my nipples. She asked me if I wanted to blew my load, I asked her in here? I told her I was too shy to blow in the lounge in front of everyone [I'm a loud screamer], and I usually release my load by just a handjob. She said everyone was blowing their load in the lounge, I was like not me. She just keep jerking me until the 25 minutes was passed.

After the 50 minutes handjob [never been jerked for so long, never], I was horny as hell and went to the wet area for a shower to rinse off the oil and get ready for the main course. I found that there were guys getting washed by some bikini girls. I wanted to try that too, I picked the girl in a pink bikini. She was from Vietnam. First, I sat on a brown cushioned chair with a you shaped bottom for easy access to my dick. She then washed my back with attention to my ass and dick. Flipped over, she washed my front side and gave me a 2 minutes handjob, no BJ though, I was a little disappointed; I heard there was a 10 seconds BJ before. Every guy on that line of chairs were having an erection [there was no wall to separate each stall, people can see everything]. I left the shower area smiling and a very clean man.

It was 3AM, the show started again. I was into Vietnamese girl that day, I pick one of the few Vietnamese girl. Most girls are mainlander but they were with a Taiwanese tag. There were 2 Russians as well. As it was still busy, I waited in the lounge again, and I almost fell asleep.

I was called that my girl is ready and I went down the spiral staircase and was leaded to a room by a guy. After about 3 minutes, my girl came in the room. She's a stunner, I forgot about her name and number. She didn't speak any English and Chinese, but I tried to communicate with her since making the girl laughs usually means a good session. She leaded me to the shower bed in the room and had me laid on my stomach. She washed my back with her boobs and after some light kissing on my back, she moved down and gave me an awesome ass rimming. I spread my legs wide for her to have total access to my ass. I raised up on all forth in the doggy position and got her to jerk me while rimming my ass, at one point she was basically fucking my ass with her tongue. Had not been rimmed for so long, it was electrifying. Flipped over, my girl washed me on the front, gave a cat bath with attention to my nipples and washed my foot with her nipples and finally started a long BBBJ I've been waiting the whole night.

Rinsed, dried myself and went to the bed. Laid on my stomach on purpose because I was expecting another AR which she did. This time with ice and hot tea, what a satisfying experience. I was shivering and moaning for more. Flipped over and she cat-bathed me. Gave me a blowjob, in ice/fire style. Touched her pussy and she wasn't that wet, tried to finger her and give her DATY, refused. OK! Have her mounted me on top with some KY. Since I was so horny from all those teasing from the thigh massage and washing, I couldn't last long; I flipped her over so that I banged her missionary and blew my load. We cuddled for a while and we made fun to each other with the mirror on the ceiling. She then took off the condom and pulled me on my dick to take a shower.

After the 1 hour phone call, I was leaded back to upstairs. Found a chair in the lounger and slept there until 6AM. I was expecting more GFE, but this girl didn't allow me to kiss or DATY. A little bit disappointed, but I did really like the rimming part.

I had thigh massage at Rio last time from a Indonesian gal, not good. All tease she barely put her hands on my wood mostly just around it. Definitely wouldn't let me release, and not that enjoyable. I had an amazing one at Big Boss once. But again wouldn't really let me release.

Kind of annoying because sometimes their HJ feels better than a mouth or hot pussy.

[QUOTE=Mrpatsfan]-In 18 Sauna it was done in the lounge in full view of other clients which I don't like, although she places a towel over your groin to provide some measure of cover. I think the thigh massage in 18 Sauna was meant for a tease and not for HE, anytime she felt I was getting too excited she slowed down.

-In Sanado the thigh massage was done in a private room which provided better privacy. The cute Vietnamese girl who did my thigh massage actually asked me if I wanted full release which I declined as I was saving it for the main event. The thigh massage gals here are younger and much prettier than 18 sauna, but keep in mind they are not FS ladies.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lattelatte]I had thigh massage at Rio last time from a Indonesian gal, not good. All tease she barely put her hands on my wood mostly just around it. Definitely wouldn't let me release, and not that enjoyable. I had an amazing one at Big Boss once. But again wouldn't really let me release.

Kind of annoying because sometimes their HJ feels better than a mouth or hot pussy.[/QUOTE]

not letting you release is part of the game
They want you to be aroused and then spend you rmoney with the more expensive soap or shangai massages
I once took a two hour massage, but this was pure massage on a massage bed
No way she did even a HJ, clearly requested. House rules, I am afraid.
The fact she didnt touch you so much is part of the thigh massage. I found it great, but the first time I had it the masseusel (a non young chinese) made me cum.

great report. silly question but, where do mongers put their luggage? i've only seen those small 3 feet high, by 1 feet wide locker stalls. are there jumbo locker stalls for the fresh off the airplane (f. o. a.) mongers?

[quote=speedo guy]was so horny after a 16 hours flight. went to the travel agent in shun tak center and bought a ticket to 18 sauna. this was my first time to go there. after an hour of turbojet, took a cab to the golden dragon hotel and 18 sauna was on the 6th floor. gave the manager my coupon and was handed a key to my locker. .[/quote]

On my August (and September) trips to Macau, I noticed at the Macau exit customs there was a poster on the wall talking about certain people. Mainland Chinese?. That now needed an 'exit' paper to leave Macau. It would be an effective Customs way to scrutinize/punish the overly aggressive Street Girl.

Who knows what those hairy security guards are doing to the SGs in the back rooms. Probably getting a freebie or else its reporting time.

I miss the way the Lisboa girls used to paw and tug away at us when we walked by, and then unfortunately that Lisboa security guard would shoo them away. They would shoo away 3. 14 feet and hide behind the marble poles only to try and catch my eye.

Damn these American 5 star hotels and their non SG friendly policies.

[QUOTE=Luis1]Besides this visit to D2 most noticeable event this trip happenned with the girls outside the Venetian at 4am. Noticed many times the girls there runing away from the security but nothing serious,. But the security actually arrested the 2 girls and took them away somewhere in the compound although we insisted on getting them to our rooms?! Never seen anything like that before.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Moondog123]Great report. Silly question but, where do mongers put their luggage? I've only seen those small 3 feet high, by 1 feet wide locker stalls. Are there Jumbo locker stalls for the Fresh Off the Airplane (F. O. A.) mongers?[/QUOTE]If you have luggage, deposit it at Sands, free of charge, 24 hours accessible.

[QUOTE=Moondog123]Great report. Silly question but, where do mongers put their luggage? I've only seen those small 3 feet high, by 1 feet wide locker stalls. Are there Jumbo locker stalls for the Fresh Off the Airplane (F. O. A.) mongers?[/QUOTE]

1. Upon arrival at the ferry terminal in macao, there are lockers and a left luggage area. You can leave your baggage there and just take some small bag with clothes to change with you, if you plan overnight in the sauna.

Or 2. (my favorite)

After arrival with ferry, take a hotel shuttle to any of the big casino hotels, they all have a left luggage counter. Just go there, give your luggage, maybe pay a few dollars (really not much!) and pick it up 1 or 2 days later. Again have an extra backback for the time you stay in macau.

Or 3.

Some saunas will let you place your luggage at their counter, but they will not really lock it somewhere, maybe not too secure.

Thomas Jefferson

[QUOTE=Thomas Jefferson]1. Upon arrival at the ferry terminal in macao, there are lockers and a left luggage area. You can leave your baggage there and just take some small bag with clothes to change with you, if you plan overnight in the sauna.

Or 2. (my favorite)

After arrival with ferry, take a hotel shuttle to any of the big casino hotels, they all have a left luggage counter. Just go there, give your luggage, maybe pay a few dollars (really not much!) and pick it up 1 or 2 days later. Again have an extra backback for the time you stay in macau.

Or 3.

Some saunas will let you place your luggage at their counter, but they will not really lock it somewhere, maybe not too secure.

Thomas Jefferson[/QUOTE]Thomas,

I have left my luggage in the front desk at sauna 18 and east spa before no problem, if keep passport and vaulable at the sauna locker.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Thomas Jefferson]1. Upon arrival at the ferry terminal in macao, there are lockers and a left luggage area. You can leave your baggage there and just take some small bag with clothes to change with you, if you plan overnight in the sauna.

Or 2. (my favorite)

After arrival with ferry, take a hotel shuttle to any of the big casino hotels, they all have a left luggage counter. Just go there, give your luggage, maybe pay a few dollars (really not much!) and pick it up 1 or 2 days later. Again have an extra backback for the time you stay in macau.

Or 3.

Some saunas will let you place your luggage at their counter, but they will not really lock it somewhere, maybe not too secure.

Thomas Jefferson[/QUOTE]Thomas,

I have left my luggage in the front desk at sauna 18 and east spa before no problem, just keep passport and vaulable at the sauna locker.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Thomas Jefferson]1. Upon arrival at the ferry terminal in macao, there are lockers and a left luggage area. You can leave your baggage there and just take some small bag with clothes to change with you, if you plan overnight in the sauna.
[/quote]
They are quite expensive if you leave the luggage longer.
[QUOTE=Thomas Jefferson]
Or 2. (my favorite)

After arrival with ferry, take a hotel shuttle to any of the big casino hotels, they all have a left luggage counter. Just go there, give your luggage, maybe pay a few dollars (really not much!) and pick it up 1 or 2 days later. Again have an extra backback for the time you stay in macau.
[/quote]That is exactly what I meant. And the sands is the closest one. If you have little luggage, it is easily walkable.

[QUOTE=Moondog123]On my August (and September) trips to Macau, I noticed at the Macau exit customs there was a poster on the wall talking about certain people. Mainland Chinese?. That now needed an 'exit' paper to leave Macau. It would be an effective Customs way to scrutinize/punish the overly aggressive Street Girl.[/QUOTE]

That poster at the ferry terminal is not really directed at SGs. The Mainland government cracked down last year on Mainlanders who had a HK/Macau visa, to stop them from visiting Macau so often and losing piles of RMB...seems a lot of the biggest losers were Mainland civil servants!

So now they need an exit paper to get back into the Mainland, and if they try to cross from Macau into say, Zhuhai, and don't have one they are in big trouble (since they're not supposed to be there in the first place.) I believe they are now limited to 4 trips a year.

Thanks for all the great luggage deposit tips.

At the Venetian Casino and City of Dreams' Bubble light show I deposited my Knapsack and Laptop at the 'Guest Services' counter, but I didn't know that I could have left the massive full size luggage.

Got to make use of these casinos who want to relieve us of as much of our dollars as possible.

[QUOTE=Thomas Jefferson]1. Upon arrival at the ferry terminal in macao, there are lockers and a left luggage area. You can leave your baggage there and just take some small bag with clothes to change with you, if you plan overnight in the sauna.

Or 2. (my favorite)

After arrival with ferry, take a hotel shuttle to any of the big casino hotels, they all have a left luggage counter. Just go there, give your luggage, maybe pay a few dollars (really not much!) and pick it up 1 or 2 days later. Again have an extra backback for the time you stay in macau.

Thomas Jefferson[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the info. I noticed some of the Civil Servants earned well above the average income. I remember one civil servant. I nicknamed her booth girl, since she sits in the passage booth, said that she earned 3000 RMB / month as starting pay, and another Civil Servant Manager who said she earned 9000 RMB / monght, an import vehicle, and also got a plot of land also as compensation.

These civil servants would definitely have some disposable income.

I can just imagine what will happen in two months when that rapid rail extension gets completed from Guanzhou to the tip of the Macau border.

Entire train loads of eager gamblers, and civil servants, ready to lose their salary in Macau, and drive up hotel prices, and drive up sauna prices.

[QUOTE=MegaPoint]That poster at the ferry terminal is not really directed at SGs. The Mainland government cracked down last year on Mainlanders who had a HK/Macau visa, to stop them from visiting Macau so often and losing piles of RMB...seems a lot of the biggest losers were Mainland civil servants!

So now they need an exit paper to get back into the Mainland, and if they try to cross from Macau into say, Zhuhai, and don't have one they are in big trouble (since they're not supposed to be there in the first place.) I believe they are now limited to 4 trips a year.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MegaPoint]So now they need an exit paper to get back into the Mainland, and if they try to cross from Macau into say, Zhuhai, and don't have one they are in big trouble (since they're not supposed to be there in the first place.) I believe they are now limited to 4 trips a year.[/QUOTE]
I heard soemthing like that in the area of 2 trips every 6 months.
Matter of the fact is that the PRC government is not happy they fellow citizens not only loose pile of money, but the profits do not even stay in the area, ie Macau.
The main casino are owned cotnrolled by the investing "mother companies" located elsewhere, just as the Las Vegas casinos.
On the other hand the investments are done by foreign companies....

While commuting around Gaungzhou and Shenzhen I noticed the rise of these businesses that had English signs on them and advertised "National Lottery". It is a way to tap into the locals gambling fever without opening an un-Communist casino.

[QUOTE=Bionicman]Matter of the fact is that the PRC government is not happy they fellow citizens not only loose pile of money, but the profits do not even stay in the area, ie Macau....[/QUOTE]There's lots of land in Zhuhai, it'll have its own rail extension soon, is it unreasonable that China would one day build its own Casino city? In Gong Bei or Zhu Hai. Lots of land, cheap labour, big profits, what's Macau going to do? Continue to do expensive land reclamation projects?

Hey guys,

I am about to make my first trip to Macau, and this site has been the best I have found. Can anyone comment on the availability of anal? Is it part of the menu, how much does it cost, and if it is not offered at the saunas, where can it be found? Also, with the two girl specials, are the girls fooling around with each other as well?

Any info would be much appreciated.

[QUOTE=Beckerpo]Hey guys,

I am about to make my first trip to Macau, and this site has been the best I have found. Can anyone comment on the availability of anal? Is it part of the menu, how much does it cost, and if it is not offered at the saunas, where can it be found? Also, with the two girl specials, are the girls fooling around with each other as well?

Any info would be much appreciated.[/QUOTE]


go to Indonesia. i heard that is part of the menu over there with certain girls. anal i hear is pretty rare in china. if your not the picky type then I'm sure you can find it. this is something that is discussed in private with the girl.

[QUOTE=Moondog123]While commuting around Gaungzhou and Shenzhen I noticed the rise of these businesses that had English signs on them and advertised "National Lottery". It is a way to tap into the locals gambling fever without opening an un-Communist casino.

There's lots of land in Zhuhai, it'll have its own rail extension soon, is it unreasonable that China would one day build its own Casino city? In Gong Bei or Zhu Hai. Lots of land, cheap labour, big profits, what's Macau going to do? Continue to do expensive land reclamation projects?[/QUOTE]Moondog123,

Why should China government open casino in Zui Hai just across the border in Macau, use your head and think it don't made any sense, I am sure all the Macau casino will flight this, I don't China want to have more casinos if they do it will be at Shanghai because there where the money is at.

Fast Eddie 48

Hi all, after so many times going through this forum for info and other stuff,

I think I should share some fr as well

Macau 18th sept 02:00

Arrived at airport from spore, exhausted but eager to find out the saunas. 18 and Rio is my first choice. But hell. I'm drifted away by the taxi driver

He recommended a sauna that is cheap clean and can stay overnight and have plenty japanese girls. I can't remember the sauna name (its in a hotel 3rd floor), but the next morning I notice its very near to lisboa hotel. The entrace of this hotel is just next to a flyover (or a highway, not sure)

Okay. Here goes,

I reach the sauna around 2pm since the night traffic was ideal. Brought to the sauna lobby (later I noticed the "real" sauna lobby is 1 level down), wait for a minute and the girls come pouring the hall and left me confused.

I was explained that the viet and Chinese girls cost 1100hkd and jap and korean 1500hkd. I picked the jap after very long consideration.

My luggage is left in the lobby while I just took my backpack and head to the room. Not a very nice one. Service is way off my expectation. Paid in cash afterwards (in RMB, since I don't have any hkd with me) and still they charge the same as hkd amount (though I know rmb is higher in exchange)

Girls verdict: overall 7/10

Face: 8/10 pornstar look with short hair

Skin: nice smooth and fair

GFE: 6/10 too hurry

Body: 7/10 I expect nice firm big boobs but turned out to be papaya-like soft and small (wonder of the bra, hate those bra inventor)

No massage, no foreplay, no BBBJ, no nothing. Only fuck and go.

Next, I was shown downstair to the "real" sauna lobby, my luggage moved here to a bigger locker and locked there.

I was explained again that the sauna facility including a room to sleep is free. And all the f&b is free. But hell this place is so crowded. I decided to just get some rest. But the room prepared for me was too small for me to handle. So I ask them whether or not I can get a massage.

Now, the massage was okay. Just okay since the girl (old girl around mid 30) not asking much and just do the routine. The thigh massage is good but after the session with the japanese, I found it rather tiring. Get me hard for nothing more. And this massage, cost me another 300hkd (I found it hard to believe)

After that I slept a bit till around 9am, showered, had free wonton noodle for breakfast and head to ferry terminal to shenzhen. Total bill is 1500rmb + 300rmb (should be 1800hkd if I had hkd with me that time)

For this amount, I can get a 3some with thai in spore. 4some in jakarta, and maybe several good times in dong guan.

I prefer ala carte f**k and go in lisboa I think. Or maybe some one can recommend better place? As I was told that 18 cost the same with better girls and facility.

[QUOTE=Abvodsolutka]Hi all, after so many times going through this forum for info and other stuff,

I think I should share some fr as well

Macau 18th sept 02:00

Arrived at airport from spore, exhausted but eager to find out the saunas. 18 and Rio is my first choice. But hell. I'm drifted away by the taxi driver

He recommended a sauna that is cheap clean and can stay overnight and have plenty japanese girls. I can't remember the sauna name (its in a hotel 3rd floor), but the next morning I notice its very near to lisboa hotel. The entrace of this hotel is just next to a flyover (or a highway, not sure)
.[/QUOTE]

Hey nice experience...which was this place...can you point it out on Google Map....if possible...wanted to try Japanese and korean girls on my next visit :)

I picked up a sauna package for East Spa at the Macau Ferry Terminal in HK on Friday afternoon. Avoiding the cheapest package, I went for the $199x option. At my request, they gave me a ticket for the next ferry, and I hurried through immigration and onto the boat.

This was to be my first trip to a Macau sauna, and I'd heard mostly good things about East Spa. It's an easy walk from the ferry terminal, for a start! There's no need for a blow-by-blow account, but here's my impression of the place:

* Spotlessly clean, and very accessible even for non-Chinese speakers like myself.

* The "shows" (I sat through two) are magnificent: lines of well-drilled (heh) girls in cute costumes molest the customers in time to the music. The lack of underwear means, while one girl is sitting on your lap licking your nipple, you can see the pussies of all the girls servicing the punters opposite. Wow.

* The girls themselves are first-rate in terms of looks. There wasn't a single one that I'd have rejected.

* I chose number 12 ("My name Nini") for my full service. She was (as I suspect they mostly are) a beautiful smiling robot. No DATY. No DFK. She ran through her checklist of services mechanically. A perfect body and lovely face will only carry you so far; overall she was a major turn-off.

* The ancillary services saved the evening. I had two sessions in the hot-tub. Firstly with number 71 (who I was auditioning for possible selection as full-service girl). Lovely face, again, but would not let me touch her pussy in the tub. That ruled her out for the Main Event. Later, after my session with #12, I took #19 into the plunge pool. She was much more interactive, permissive and fun, and I wished I'd picked her as a full-sex girl, but she hadn't been in the line-up at the time. Maybe next time.

* The full body massage (girl 396, an older lady from Zhuhai) was magnificent. At the end of the session she woke Mr Happy up with some well-placed massage (although I'd just shagged #12 an hour earlier) and persuaded me to pay $390 to extend the session. This was the best money I'd spent all evening. Her HJ was virtuoso, she let me finger her under her skirt and REALLY enjoyed it. A happy and genuine girl like this, compared to Robot #12, was such a turn-on that I finished easily, and came much harder.

* Overall, I was satisfied with East Spa. With the extras, I paid about $2,500, but that's not bad value for money when you consider I was there for 6 hours, and got two sessions in the plunge pool, the body massage and HJ, a foot massage, a shoulder and back massage, two "shows", dinner, a few beers, two pots of tea, fruit, a dozen cigarettes, sex (albeit lousy) with a beautiful girl, and return ferry tickets. I fingered four pussies, I *lost count* of how many sweet breasts of varying sizes I fondled, and three different girls had my cock in their mouths.

Definitely worth a return visit, in my opinion.

[QUOTE=Idler31]She was (as I suspect they mostly are) a beautiful smiling robot. No DATY. No DFK. She ran through her checklist of services mechanically.[/QUOTE]

you need to "interview" the girls carefully to see which ones will go further with you. I only hit one bad apple at the east spa that gave robotic service. all the other girls threw away the paper and gave me PSE. one thing that would help you with the chinese girls(for non-asian anyway) ~~~ tip them extra. the more the better. 1000HKD floater is considered a really nice tip and you can probably receive the GFE. or you can go with a non-chinese girl.

[QUOTE=Stinkyfeet] ~~~ tip them extra. the more the better. 1000HKD floater is considered a really nice tip and you can probably receive the GFE. or you can go with a non-chinese girl.[/QUOTE]
might be a strategy but then this means doubling the rate.
Does it make sense?
One goes to a relatively cheap sauna and then tops with a 1000MOP/HKD, ends up in paying more than a top end sauna
Also there you can have a hir ot miss, I agree, but at least you dont have to tip and send totally less.
Just asking...

[QUOTE=Bionicman]might be a strategy but then this means doubling the rate.
Does it make sense?
One goes to a relatively cheap sauna and then tops with a 1000MOP/HKD, ends up in paying more than a top end sauna
Also there you can have a hir ot miss, I agree, but at least you dont have to tip and send totally less.
Just asking...[/QUOTE]

i would never suggest giving that much at a cheap sauna. i know that giving a nice tip at a top end sauna will increase your experiences dramatically. rule of thumb for me is, top end tip is double of that of the total normal fee.

Since I was in Hong Kong and had read about the outstanding Macau saunas, I thought this would be a great time to try one out. I've been following this forum for some time and have seen all the comments on the various saunas available. Based on Samurai's report of 11-11-06, I decided to try the Sauna e Massagem Familia Nobre. And, I wasn't disappointed!

Having followed the Macau forum for some time I knew to go to the third floor of the Shun Tak ferry terminal in Central. It was an easy walk from the Star Ferry Terminal. I had expected that each sauna would have its own sales desk, but that is not the case. There are a number of "travel agents" who represent all of the saunas. Except for the Sauna e Massagem Familia Nobre. I found only two that had this package.

The agent told me that the basic package was $998HKD and the management would pick the girl for a 90 minute FS session. For $1498HKD you could pick your own girl. He also said that the package came with 2 additional "services". After paying my money, he gave me a stamped coupon and a ferry ticket. You get the return ferry ticket from the sauna manager when you leave there.

After arriving in Macau I had some lunch (a favorite Portuguese restaurant) and then made my way to the sauna. It was easy to find based on maps found: [url]http://macau. Ne. Jp/list.php? Cid=33[/url] (Click on your favorite sauna and then on the second tab for a map of its location).

There was no one on the ground floor, so I took the elevator up. Here I was greeted by a man who motioned me to the front desk. I gave them my stamped coupon and was motioned to the adjoining locker room. A man indicated I should strip and he placed my clothes in a locker and gave me a wrist key and a towel and motioned me on. I entered a large room with three huge Jacuzzis. I found the shower and cleaned up. Not wanting to sit in a tub, I searched around until I found a room with "sauna clothes". A girl fitted me with my sizes of shorts and top and then she motioned me onward. So far no one had spoken any English.

I came to a large area with many soft chairs and overhead TVs. A woman motioned for me to sit. I avoided the smokers and sat by myself. An old man approached and offered to give me a foot massage. I shooed him away. 4 times. He was very persistent! I figured if someone was going to rub my legs, it was going to be a girl. And, I didn't want to waste one of my "extra services" on him.

While there, the manager brought in three girls for another guy to choose from. All three of the girls were knock-outs in my book and he couldn't have gone wrong.

I discovered the sauna "menu" on a table near me. This was a confusing listing of various types of massages and add-ons. None of the people could explain the differences in the packages – and didn't know I had already pre-paid. After reading here about the thigh massage, I was determined to experience that. But I couldn't find it on the menu. Finally the English speaking manager helped me. The thigh massage was there – just amusingly miss-spelled "relaxing thing massage". He called for the thigh massage girl who came to collect me and my Coke. She lead me through a labyrinth of hallways to a darkened room. What I hadn't expected is that the massage was pretty much legit – it ranged from my thighs to my feet. She did the whole works and quite well. Since I had done a lot of walking, I needed that. She worked on each leg for 40 minutes. Only the last 5 minutes did she work on little brother. Since she knew I was going for the "boom-boom" session next, she didn't finish me off.

At the end of the massage she informed me (confirmed by the manager) that she had gone twice the normal length of time, so therefore I would have to pay $155HKD for a "second" session. Unable to argue, I accepted. After all, she had done a good job (and allowed me to unbutton her top and play with her breasts).

She lead me out of there and down another hall. I stopped off to use the W. C. And when I came out a beautiful 25 year old Vietnamese girl was standing there in a scantily clad outfit, holding my Coke and smiling at me. She gave me a hug and walked me down to a room. Management had done an OUTSTANDING job of picking for me. This girl was GFE, a solid 9 and very playful. She also had larger breasts than the typical Chinese girls. I'm not very good at judging cup sizes, but she was more than a handful! And to top it off, she spoke English! We had a nice 60 minute session. I told her that the agent said it was 90 minutes but she insisted it was only 60.

That was time enough, though. We did multiple positions and she allowed DATY. I was thoroughly satisfied. At the end of the session she walked me out and said goodbye. I proceeded to the shower room and then out to get my clothes. At the front desk I was presented with the bill for the extended thigh massage. The desk gave me a voucher for a ferry ticket and said to present it at the terminal to get an actual ticket.

Easier said than done. After asking various people where to take the voucher, I finally found a booth with a woman gesturing to me. I exchanged the voucher for a second voucher and was told to go to the departure area. The ferry company wouldn't take the voucher and sent me off down some strange halls to another desk where they gave me an actual ticket for the second voucher. That did the trick.

I was very happy with the sauna and would definitely recommend it. Next time I'll try one of the others just to get some variety.

I have been member on ISG since some time.

After extensive experiance in German FKKs I have the opportunity to visit Macau

I have a lot of experiance on German FKKs where BBBJ is standard by all girls while CIM costs some 100US$ extra with girls that do it (which is almost all)...

French Kissing is pot luck with some 50:50% chance (not charged separately)

Rimming is seldom offered (if yes than with extra charge)

As I will visit one of the saunas featured on this thread I am wondering are services above included in the pricing (1300HK "package" or one pays extra)

One more question, is it worth buying package tours from Hong Kong or is it better to come to Macau sauna and pick services there?

Also is it worth going to macau working day 20:00 and come back to Hong Kong during night/early morning? What is best time of day to visit on working day?

Looking forward to your answers and my trip.

Regards,

Miros

Advice needed: I will be in Bangkok/Pattaya for a month in November. Would it be worth the trouble to fly to macau for a couple of days to check out the saunas, or can similar quality be found in Thailand (tall, slim, light-skinned top model looks).

Thanks

[QUOTE=Luc Besson]Advice needed: I will be in Bangkok/Pattaya for a month in November. Would it be worth the trouble to fly to macau for a couple of days to check out the saunas, or can similar quality be found in Thailand (tall, slim, light-skinned top model looks).

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Here's my opinion: If you have more money to spend and you can speak some chinese, then Macau is much better. There are unbelievably hot chinese girls in the saunas but they don't speak english. Thailand is low-end. I'm sure some people will disagree with me on that. If you've never been to Macau at least come and check it out for a few days! Try a sauna, check out the discos, get some variety instead of the same old Thailand thing night after night.

[QUOTE=Luc Besson]Advice needed: I will be in Bangkok/Pattaya for a month in November. Would it be worth the trouble to fly to macau for a couple of days to check out the saunas, or can similar quality be found in Thailand (tall, slim, light-skinned top model looks).

Thanks[/QUOTE]It all depends on your tastes when it comes to Asian girls, specifically Northeast Asian versus Southeast Asian.

That said, a Macau sauna experience is something every man should experience at least once in his lifetime. Yes, it's THAT good! So if you're already in the area, I strongly recommend making a side trip to Macau. For your first time, pick a high-end sauna, either 18 or Rio. It's heaven on Earth.

In my opinion, Macau girls completely blow Thai girls out of the water, but I admit I have a strong preference for Northeast Asian girls.

[QUOTE=China 69]Here's my opinion: If you have more money to spend and you can speak some chinese, then Macau is much better[/QUOTE]From what I´ve read here, you don´t seem to need chinese language skills for the saunas, where do you think I´d run into difficulties as non-chinese speaker? Freebies in the macau discos?

[QUOTE=Luc Besson]From what I´ve read here, you don´t seem to need chinese language skills for the saunas, where do you think I´d run into difficulties as non-chinese speaker? Freebies in the macau discos?[/QUOTE]
No worries, you dont need to speak chinese at all.

[QUOTE=Luc Besson]From what I´ve read here, you don´t seem to need chinese language skills for the saunas, where do you think I´d run into difficulties as non-chinese speaker? Freebies in the macau discos?[/QUOTE]For saunas, especially the better ones, all the managers and some of the workers will speak decent English. The girls, however, usually don't speak English. You'll get to bang them, just not talk to them. But hey, some guys like that, lol!

For clubs and discos, not speaking Chinese might be slightly problematic, but I don't see it getting in the way of business. Most girls at these establishments are Filipino anyway, and they speak English.

So yeah, you'll be fine in Macau just speaking English. But do learn a few basic Chinese phrases like hello, thank you, and you're so beautiful. Chinese goes a LONG way in Macau, and they'll love you for making the effort to try.

Its not mandatory that you need to speak chinese in a Macau sauna because they will have some non-chinese girls there too but if its chinese girls you're looking for (which I think are the hottest) then keep in mind that 99% of them won't speak english. Just my opinion...

[QUOTE=China 69]Its not mandatory that you need to speak chinese in a Macau sauna because they will have some non-chinese girls there too but if its chinese girls you're looking for (which I think are the hottest) then keep in mind that 99% of them won't speak english. Just my opinion...[/QUOTE]
The various Papa- and Mama-San do speck english and can liase the main initial communications (menu). Then of course behind the closed doors it is all between the two and their communication skills:)

I have been to Macau once and stayed at the Golden Dragon and went to 18.

I will likely get into Macau at about 1am and have to leave at about 11am.

Which would you recommend at that time? Should I even get a room?

I am also debating just getting a room and picking up someone at MP3 or other disco instead.

Thanks for any suggestions.

[QUOTE=Sugoi]I have been to Macau once and stayed at the Golden Dragon and went to 18.
I will likely get into Macau at about 1am and have to leave at about 11am.
Which would you recommend at that time? Should I even get a room?
I am also debating just getting a room and picking up someone at MP3 or other disco instead.
Thanks for any suggestions.[/QUOTE]Said often here
If sauna is your target, no need to get a room, stay in the sauna, where you can also rest
If you look for take away from other locations (Mp3 and alikes), then definetely you might need a room in an hotel.

[QUOTE=Miros]I have been member on ISG since some time.

After extensive experiance in German FKKs I have the opportunity to visit Macau

I have a lot of experiance on German FKKs where BBBJ is standard by all girls while CIM costs some 100US$ extra with girls that do it (which is almost all)...

French Kissing is pot luck with some 50:50% chance (not charged separately)

Rimming is seldom offered (if yes than with extra charge)

As I will visit one of the saunas featured on this thread I am wondering are services above included in the pricing (1300HK "package" or one pays extra)

One more question, is it worth buying package tours from Hong Kong or is it better to come to Macau sauna and pick services there?

Also is it worth going to macau working day 20:00 and come back to Hong Kong during night/early morning? What is best time of day to visit on working day?

Looking forward to your answers and my trip.

Regards,

Miros[/QUOTE]I would appreciate Macau experianced to share some experiance with me.

[QUOTE=Miros]I would appreciate Macau experianced to share some experiance with me.[/QUOTE]That is what the forum is all about: share experiences.

There are tons of experiences and reports in the previous pages.

Just take some time to RTFF.

50% off the second massage. Typical general massage.

[QUOTE=Sugoi]I have been to Macau once and stayed at the Golden Dragon and went to 18.

I will likely get into Macau at about 1am and have to leave at about 11am.

Which would you recommend at that time? Should I even get a room?

I am also debating just getting a room and picking up someone at MP3 or other disco instead.

Thanks for any suggestions.[/QUOTE]Goto any Sauna, they will let you overnight to 10-11am no problem.

I wouldn't necessarily go to the expensive ones however its your choice. The sauna at Old Lisboa will let you sleep over night there too but only on those couches. $438 which inc a Shanghai massagi and all facilities. HJ extra, FS really extra. LOL

PC out

[QUOTE=Pcpc1688]Goto any Sauna, they will let you overnight to 10-11am no problem.

I wouldnt necessarily go to the expensive ones however its your choice. The sauna at Old Lisboa will let you sleep over night there too but only on those couches. $438 which inc a Shanghai massagi and all facilities. HJ extra, FS really extra....lol

PC out[/QUOTE]In order to sleep over there is some minimum package you have to buy. In Shenzhen you have to get 3 hour massage in order to sleep over.

Never went to sauna places in Macau so I do not know what the requirement is. Although I have used race track girls and other freelancers.

[quote=speedo guy]went to the travel agent in shun tak center and bought a ticket to 18 sauna.[/quote]just a quick question, do you have to get a ticket at the travel agent or can you just turn up to 18 sauna?

[QUOTE=Bumblebee69]Just a quick question, do you have to get a ticket at the travel agent or can you just turn up to 18 Sauna?[/QUOTE]The travel agent packages you can buy in HK are an option (for a basic service with good price) but not a must.

Jsut walk in, enjoy and then pay when exiting.

Every service you take is recorded in your account jsut like in an hotel.

I tried to find location of sanado (and xanadu) via several ways (including using search functions on the forum-which brought up detailed list of all other places apart from Sando, google earth, web) and could not find adress or some indication of where it is.

If someone could help I would appreciate it.

Thanks and regards,

Miros

Hey Mongers!

I Have Been To Darling 2 Last Year And It Was Great!

I Like Viet Girls Since They Are Good GFE. I Plan To Be In Macao This Weekend. Any Advise On Hou Va And Hot Spot?

Thanks In Advance

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Hi Jpp1272,

I sincerely appreciate your contributions to the forum, but...

[red][u]Would you please refrain from capitalizing the first letter of EVERY word in your reports![/u][/red]

It's difficult to read, it's time consuming to fix, and it takes you more work to write like that.

On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: [i]Thank You![/i][/blue]

[QUOTE=Bionicman]The travel agent packages you can buy in HK are an option (for a basic service with good price) but not a must.

Jsut walk in, enjoy and then pay when exiting.

Every service you take is recorded in your account jsut like in an hotel.[/QUOTE]Brilliant, thanks champ. As I'll be flying into the airport, I wouldn't have been able to get them from the HK. Time to check out all the saunas.

First, thanks to everyone here for the info on this place. Without it, I wouldn’t have been able to find the location, nor understand the routine. Neither of which is easy.

Went there last night about 8:00pm. On the fast ferry from HK. Got a taxi at the Macau Ferry Terminal but the guy had never heard of Sanado Sauna. So I told him to drop me at the Holiday Inn. Cost was about $15 local money.

I then wandered around for quite a while looking for the place. It’s a warren of streets, mostly with no names. I did spot Golden Sauna and Windsor Sauna, but I finally had to ask a cop or security guy standing on the road where to find it. Even then the sign is hard to read except from across the street. I had walked past the man at the door once or twice already. He wasn’t doing a good job of inviting single male customers into the joint.

But once inside, as has been said here, the management is friendly and welcoming. I was asked to sit in the reception area. A female manager with minimum English came and sat next to me with the shopping list. Again, thanks to the Forum I had some idea what was on offer, but the print was tiny, and the options bewildering, I finally pointed to the price I was prepared to pay, paid it, and went in.

The place is clean and efficient. A girl helped me totally undress (love that part) and stow my clothes in a locker. She gave me a key for my wrist, and showed me that the locker needed two keys to open – mine and hers – so there is a sense of security about your belongings.

I was given a wrap-around towel, and taken to the shower area. Unfortunately, as I later realized, I had arrived just as a show was starting in the main lounge, so all the girls had gone there. No hostess in the shower, therefore, no bj as I had been led to expect, and the same thing in the pool area, which is the next stop. I sat there alone for a few minutes (it’s very warm) before going to the pajama station and getting the shorts and top (way too small for a European). Then into the main lounge, just as the showgirls were all coming out.

I was shown to a lounge chair in the main room. About 25 guys already there (Saturday night) and I was the only non-Asian. Which is a bit of a relief – didn’t want to run into my boss! This gives you a chance to look around and get comfortable. A (fully clothed) waitress indicated she would bring me a drink, and then the massage ladies in black pants and red jackets came by offering me various things on a list (also tiny print) with various prices.

One offered me a thigh massage, which I accepted, and while she went to get her oils, another offered me a shoulder massage, which I also accepted. So I had two girls working on me on the chair in the lounge. They chatted with each other, made fun of my hairy chest, but did a damn thorough and quite professional hard massage on my knotted muscles. Nothing erotic about it, just quite good. Turns out you have to pay extra for this, which I hadn’t understood – there’s virtually no English spoken – but it was $118 for each side – i.e. for each leg and each shoulder – and I went for it.

This took about 40 minutes, and it was very pleasant. The guy next to me was smoking, which wasn’t. But the atmosphere is relaxed and friendly.

About an hour after I arrived the next show began. It was as described here. The red jackets disappear, and the scantily clad girls come out wearing spoofy chefs outfits – puffy hats, loose white tops, miniscule skirts, and no underwear. They form a line in front of every punter and the routine calls for them to do one 30 second act with each guy and then move on to the next. So you get to sample a rotation of about 5 girls on your chair. Crotch-grind, tit-feel, ear licking, hand in your pants and gentle stroking, but no bj.

On the tit-feel section, I got a young beauty with serious and genuine handfuls. She was cute, looked me in the eye, smiled, and giggled (most of them didn’t make any eye contact at all) so I noted her armband number, and when it came time to “pick the girl” I gave it to the female manager. Then the girl comes back to your chair, with another menu. Again, hard to read, but several items were already ticked off, so they are the standard offerings, and I was to pick 6 others. I remembered the recommendation for the 360 bj, ticked that, a couple of others, and she herself pointed to some items she obviously liked to do, so I ticked those too.

We went into the back corridor, to a small but very clean, fully mirrored room, with a shower and bed. She got naked and really was stunning. Gave me a thorough clean in the shower, and I mean thorough, almost rough, but I took it as a good sign of concern for health and cleanliness.

On to the bed, and she did the whole routine as on the menu. We could not converse, though I did learn she was from Hunan, nor did I get her name, alias or otherwise. Started with a full body slide, then a spectacular AR, fire and ice on balls and cock, round the world bj, pussy rub, daty was then offered, but I have lived long mongering without risking that, so it was declined. Everything was well done, though she smiled less in the session, and the lack of conversation made it less than ideal.

Finally, on with the coat. She lay back and I started with missionary, and then asked her to go on top, and then doggy etc. The fake moans always put me off a bit, but she didn’t overdo it, and I eventually came in her hands after a good workout. She was quite young. I did start to wonder a bit about the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] issue, and whether she was really there of her own free will, and this may have contributed to my slightly less than volcanic climax. Sometimes conscience comes at a bad time.

The total damage was just over $1900HK. This included an extra $546 for the red jackets and presumably the two cokes I drank. I was there for about 3 hours.

I found Sanado clean, friendly, and efficient. They make an effort to put on a good product. The girls were all young and attractive. If you’re not Asian, you have to make an effort to get there and it helps to have this Forum to know what to expect.

[QUOTE=Miros]I tried to find location of sanado (and xanadu) via several ways (including using search functions on the forum-which brought up detailed list of all other places apart from Sando, google earth, web) and could not find adress or some indication of where it is.

If someone could help I would appreciate it.

Thanks and regards,

Miros[/QUOTE]

Miros - If memory serves me, Sanado is across the street from the Metropark hotel front entrance (give or take a block).

On my map, Sanado is the blue arrow on the left. The second arrow is Rio Spa and if you look carefully on the far right you will see the Waldo hotel where you will find East Spa.

Stayed a night in the Rio. My thoughts:

Hotel room (most basic one) is pretty good, very spacious.

Spent 5 hours in the Sauna. For the most part impressive. The first 'wet' part is very good. Showers, pools and saunas excellent. There are a number of viet/indo girls here who will wash you up here but didn't partake.

Through to the dry part, had a manicure and pedicure, very well done. For reference the thigh massages are listed in the book as 'leg vein reflexology', you have to laugh.

I had two of those, the second one to completion (after I had been upstairs). They don't spend too much time on the thighs. Both times they wanted to meet me outside after work. Go figure.

Took in the show at around 9. 30pm. I'd say around 50 girls were paraded, they couldn't all fit in the room at the perimeter.

Thoughts. A lot of attractive women, but depending on your tastes it may be a bit much. A lot of the Chinese 'star' girls are too made up, have too obvious implants or have their hair too japan-ified. 3 Europeans (Russian?). Either way imo dog ugly.

I chose a 'heart' girl (I think cheaper than the star girls) as they look a little plainer and more 'normal' which is what I like. Number 102 was the choice. Not much English, but pretty. Her tits were bolt ons but well done, ie not too huge, not obvious and nice to the touch.

The performance was a touch perfunctory with a little too much OTT vocals. Good F&I BBBJ. Sex in multiple positions, catbath in the bath type thing. Finished off jerking me over her tits with a finger in my ass. Nice. Overall though just an adequate performance and have certainly had better sex in Phils/Thailand.

One thing. The condom the guy gives out is way to small. Next time I will take some in with me. It was sort of ridiculous, and I was a little worried it would tear or come off. Anyways, you live, you learn.

Overall I really enjoyed the experience there, it is very well done, although the sex itself was probably the weakest aspect of the visit.

Before getting ferry back the next day went for a quick cruise round the racetrack. At about 11am, still around 10 girls cruising by, some quite nice! Didn't partake though.

sorry, forgot to add that you can definitely drink beer at rio - in fact there are adverts for it everywhere in there!

it's not cheap though, but i had one or two whilst flicking through the interesting variety of japanese/chinese porn mags they have rep001tered around the place!

This was my first time to a Macua Sauna. It was a toss up between 18 and Sanado. I decided on the latter since it sounded a bit more off bit.

Bought a full package voucher at HK$1568 at one of the travel agencies on the third floor of the Macau terminal in Hong Kong. They were not very clear on what was included besides the return ride to Macau and an hour with the girl of your choice.

Arrived in Macau at 5 pm and decided to do some sight seeing first. I could have took a taxi from the boat terminal into town or paid $3.20 (exact change) by number 3 bus and a guy told me I could just take one of the many complementary casino shuttles instead. This was what I did (to Hotel/Casino Lisboa).

After 2 hours of wandering around, I headed for Sanado Sauna. Based on the so call map (really a very simplistic block diagram) on the voucher, showing Sanado was right behind Lisboa Hotel across Peking Street, I got completely lost. After asking many (very helpful) policemen/women in the neighbourhood, I finally found the place.

Thursday evening. 8 pm.

Once I got inside, I was not exactly formally met and explained what I was doing to get for my voucher. Then a not very interesting looking maid took me to my locker. After locking up all my stuff, given a wrist band with my number, I was taken to the shower area where I was met by a bunch of giggling girls in their uniform - tight little jacket showing plenty of cleaverage, bare midriff, very small short skirt and high heels - all in bright yellow accented by black checkers, which, in my opinion was more funky than sexy. Oh, they also had this stupid little "taxi" cap on their head.

There was some confusion as to what was going to happen as in whether I was supposed to pick a girl to come into the shower with me or what. I pointed to one of the girls but I think a different girl showed up. She helped me to soap and shower, paying special attention to my cock and ass hole and then gave me a one-minute blow job - all while a few other girls sat around and watched. I could not made up my mind whether I was excited by that or found it strange.

Then I was taken to the hot pool. There were a few other people there. After a while, a topless girl came into the pool and gave me a massage. She was OK. Other guys were getting similar treatment in the pool. I noticed there was a seperated and smaller area in the pool where two guys were getting hotter treatments in that the girls where giving them body massage in the pool. Not sure what that deal was. Should have asked.

After the hot pool, I was given a pair of shorts and robe and taken to the lounge. It was not that big and the lounge chairs were close together with two rows facing each other. A manager/supervisor type told me for the first time that I would get a full hour with a girl of my choice plus 45 minutes of body massage (turned out I could changed that to 20 minutes of foot massage), plus free food and drink (but beer was extra at, I think $50 a can).

There were 5 or 6 massage women (in their late 20, early 30 ?) around the lounge. They were in uniforms that were not sexy or revealing. They were not pushy in offering their services.

Show time. All the 20 or so girls that were available changed from their yellowish uniform to some odd outfit. Very short skirts. No panties. Their tits covered by a piece of cloth that was not tied to the side or back so one could see them from the side. Useful to guess their real size and shape. The girls paraded in front of us in the lounge. Then a girl was situated with each guy (we all had a towel covering our shorts) and lied on top of us giving us a body massage. 30 seconds latter, the girls rotated around clockwise to the next guy and sat on top of us cow girls like, pulling our hands to their tits and let us groped them. Rotated clockwise again and did a reverse cow girl. Then rotate yet again with a different girl lying besides us giving us a HJ under the towel. All pretty kinky. Adding to the kinkyness was watching the girls doing it to the guys in the loung chairs across from you.

Shows over. Pick a girl. All the girls (all chinese) were very young looking with nice small body even though some had larger boobs (but no D cups as I could see). Cute was the thought that came to mind describing the girls. Here was the problem. I liked older, slutty women with large natural tits and meatier bodies. Ooops. Too late. I did my best to pick one closest to my taste but the selection simply was not there. The girl I picked came over and showed me a large menu of sex service available. I think the idea was you select what you specifically wanted from her and she would obliged. She brought me an English translation of the menu which was pretty hilarious. I ended up letting her chose.

Off to the room we went. Smallish. Clean. Mirror all around. The girl I picked was extremely friendly and was great even though I was not really into young looking girls. Went through varioud routines. AR was particularly memorable. After the deed was done, she laid besides me and we chatted while she was giving me a HJ at her own initiative. This was the second time she worked there. She got a 7 days visa each time.

When the time was almost up, she asked if I want to extend. I asked her how much that would cost. She did not know and had to called the front office. Based on my voucher, it would cost $700 for an additional 30 minute. I declined. She was OK with that and continue being pleasant and giving me the HJ till it was time.

I went back to the lounge. Had dinner, The manager guy came over and asked how she was. Happy to hear that the service was excellent.

After dinner, had foot massage by a Vietnamese woman. She was older (probably mid to late 20s), good looking, spoke decent English and actually held a good conversation. I would have loved to bang her! She gave me an excellent, proper (as in nothing sexy) foot massage that gave my muscles a real good and badly needed workout.

In conclusion, I would rate the service in this place an A. The quality of the set up will probably be a C as in it is OK but not really that fancy. Food is decent but they should offer free beer. As to the girls, I think they are great if you like them young with small perfect body. But not my taste. It will be good if they can add some plumper offerings to the mix. I was told I could sleep over in the sauna overnight instead of getting a hotel room. However given the small size of the lounge, that would probably be challenging.

All said and done, interesting experience but will not likely to return (again, because of my taste rather than any fault of the establishment). Probably would have done better with the apparently much larger selection of girls at 18 for my first outting.

Been reading these Sauna reports and they sound like my type of place, I have a big fucking problem, when I am in Macau in 2 weeks the wife will be in tow!

Does anyone know of a Sauna I could take the wife, what I want is when we enter she is taken away for her treatment Eg pedicure, manicure, facial etc

While she is having her pampering I would be able to have my pampering Eg facial, cim, bbj

It would have to appear ligit to the wife.

May the force be with you.

[QUOTE=LukeSkyWanker]Been reading these Sauna reports and they sound like my type of place, I have a big fucking problem, when I am in Macau in 2 weeks the wife will be in tow!

Does anyone know of a Sauna I could take the wife, what I want is when we enter she is taken away for her treatment Eg pedicure, manicure, facial etc

While she is having her pampering I would be able to have my pampering Eg facial, cim, bbj

It would have to appear ligit to the wife.

May the force be with you.[/QUOTE]Ouch, that's rough! Your best bet would be to find something for her to do for at least 3 hours and sneak off to a sauna.

First time I went to Macau, I brought my girlfriend with me. Biggest mistake ever! The only way I could even check out the food court girls at Venetian was to pretend to be criticizing of their lifestyle choice when in fact I was secretly getting half a stack in my pants. Sigh.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=LukeSkyWanker]Been reading these Sauna reports and they sound like my type of place, I have a big fucking problem, when I am in Macau in 2 weeks the wife will be in tow!

Does anyone know of a Sauna I could take the wife, what I want is when we enter she is taken away for her treatment Eg pedicure, manicure, facial etc

While she is having her pampering I would be able to have my pampering Eg facial, cim, bbj

It would have to appear ligit to the wife.

May the force be with you.[/QUOTE]

I think you are out of luck. They are really bothels with a sauna theme rather than saunas with a brothel operation on the side.

Has anybody been to East Spa recently (like in the past 2 weeks or so)? I notice that their website is down and was wondering if something happened. I was planning on stopping by on my upcoming trip and since I don't have much time to kill, only an overnight, I would prefer to avoid surprises. Thanks.

I think the website was [url]www.eaststart.com[/url]

Is it possible to bring the cell phone with you into the sauna and not leave it in the locker?

[QUOTE=Haimhle]Is it possible to bring the cell phone with you into the sauna and not leave it in the locker?[/QUOTE]

I have seen quite a few guys with the cell phone at Sanado when I was there. Hmmm ... now to think of it ... picture time :-)

[QUOTE=Haimhle]Is it possible to bring the cell phone with you into the sauna and not leave it in the locker?[/QUOTE]
At Rio I always have it with me. The downside is that the jacket they give you is sort of silk light material, so the cell phone is quite heavy for it's pocket. You can ask, in most of saunas, for a plastic transparent pursue with zipper to store it when you take the phone with you.
Saunas are not the driest places in the world, lol

Does anybody knows clearly whether the famous thigh massage in there is performed in the main lounge (under the towel) and to completion (regardless where it is done) I read sort of contradicting reports...

[QUOTE=Bionicman]Does anybody knows clearly whether the famous thigh massage in there is performed in the main lounge (under the towel) and to completion (regardless where it is done) I read sort of contradicting reports...[/QUOTE]I had tight massage in 18sauna in the main seating area with towel covering up the "thights" until completion, it is a strange feeling, when everybody passes and they know you just getting a HJ, but I was not the only one. Kinda funny.

[QUOTE=Bionicman]Does anybody knows clearly whether the famous thigh massage in there is performed in the main lounge (under the towel) and to completion (regardless where it is done) I read sort of contradicting reports...[/QUOTE]It depends on the establishment. At 18, the thigh massage is performed right in the main lounge. At Rio, they take you somewhere more private. It all depends.

As for finishing to completion, I'm pretty sure that all saunas forbid this as they want you to still be hungry for the main course. If you do get a thigh massage to completion, that is strictly an under the table service on the girl's part and you should not breathe a word to management or else she'll be in major trouble.

[QUOTE=Seamaster811]
As for finishing to completion, I'm pretty sure that all saunas forbid this as they want you to still be hungry for the main course. If you do get a thigh massage to completion, that is strictly an under the table service on the girl's part and you should not breathe a word to management or else she'll be in major trouble.[/QUOTE]

I have no doubt that is right most of the time, but some guys post that the girls will sometimes ask whether you are planning to have a session with a girl after, and if not will do you to completion. I had the question from my thigh girl at Familia (where the room was private, and the thigh massage was exquisite), but since the answer was yes, nothing more happened. I would agree that discretion is important.

After scanning bulk of reports here. I get mixed feeling about th quality of Russian Girls if any in the sauna's. Can any seanior member help in letting me know where quality Russian chicks are available?

Also, as far as girls are concerned 18 is far better than Rio. But since I am more of an ambience person was just wondering about quality of Rio girls.

After RTFF and reading a lot of recent reports of Sanado I decided to check it out for myself on my second trip to Macau. My first trip was spend at the Rio so I thought I'd make some comparisons.

*Note I have only had day trips to Macau so I went to the saunas in the afternoon when they are not busy.

Facility:

Rio Spa is in the Rio hotel (obviously), so you can enter just like any hotel guest. The decor is super upscale and spacious. The hot pool is big with two steam rooms. The lounge area is arranged in rows in one big room with TV's in front each row. They have computer with internet on trolleys that you can request and they will bring it to you. The rooms are on a different floor and have shallow massage tubs which is cool.

Sanado is across and to the right of Metropark hotel. Really close to the Rio as well. It is in the basement of a residential building(I think). The first floor is kinda grungy, but it's not part of the sauna. Since it is not in a hotel there is a small walk of shame factor if you are self conscious. (a little for me anyways then I got over it). The hot pool is not very big with a glass steam room. The lounge area is divide into smaller sections with a TV in each section. Sanado has computer stations that you can use. I can't confirm internet as I did not use computers there. Rooms are equipped with standard shower

Services: (YMMV)

The Rio has stalls by the hot pool where one of the massage girls(not offering FS) will give you a thorough body wash which I really enjoyed. The management is polite and professional. The Sauna grils have a fixed routine.

At the Sanado, a Sanua girl will help you lather when you take you shower. Remember her number or let a manager know if you like the girl. When you sit in the hot pool a sauna girl will give you a massage(I did not get this. I think it was too early and they don't have enough girls to maintain this service. The management was attentive as there weren't many guests at the time. The sauna girl you chose will bring you a list of actions that you can have her do. She will perform the ones you chose. You can skip each action and move on if you don't like it.

Selection:

The Rio has large quantity and variety of girls. Chinese, Taiwanese, Mongolian, Japanese, Korean, Russian....They have a room specifically for selection with 2 dance pole and the girls come in batches at a time.

The Sanado only have Chinese girls(as far as I can tell). They have about a dozen earlier in the day and over twenty when it's busier. They bring the girls to the lounge area for selection. They were able to do this at my request when it's early and there weren't many guests.

Pricing:

The Rio Spa's pricing is based on the ethnicity of the girl you pic. Since all the girls are beautiful, the more exotic(in their opinion) is more expensive. They also have premium services, but I could not afford it and don't remember what they are.

All the girls at The Sanado are Chinese, so the pricing is based on the different service options, such as 2 girls(still 1S though. I was like WTF), MSOG and so forth. The Sanado gives you a 20% discount if you enter before 5PM and pick your girl before 8:30PM. Some extra service are not discounted and manager let you know and can always ask.(all FS service options are dicounted)

Personal opinion:

I kept the above as objective as I could. I did omit things like food as I did not eat at the Rio spa and it would not be fair to include it. I think The Sanado is better deal if you like Chinese girls. If you do not like Chinese girls or is particular about the facility then Rio is the better choice.

I prefered the selection process at the Sanado because I don't have to rush and make my pick at the same time as all the other guests. They sent the girls to me at the lounge when it's well lit and I can take my time. The only guys choosing at the same time as me at the most are ones sitting beside me. Again all Chinese though, a downer if you are not into Chinese girls.

I satisfied my Eastern European curiosity with Russian girl at the Rio and knew that I couldn't get that at the Sanado, but for about the same price(discounted) I had a Chinese girl for 90 min MSOG and I did not have to worry about releasing too early resulting in a lot cuddling time. I could just keep going and the extra 30 mins almost doubles the FS time because the shower/routine generally take about 20 minutes.

Even though I did not spent my time during the busy hours. I would imagine the Sanado would be more likely to be overcrowded and understaffed if it got busy.

I hope I can stay overnight on my next trip so I can check out MP3 and D2 disco for change of pace.

Tonight one of my former girl friends will arrive in Hong Kong. We have planned to go to Macau next week and she is keen to try a sauna there. She likes classy sauna service, espec. sexual services by another woman.

Does anybody know if it is possible for a woman to visit a Macau sauna without joining all the men and boys waiting for the line up?
And if Macau sauna girls offer their service to women, too?

I asked today the agents when I came across the HK ferry terminal, but -as expected- they couldn't answer. At least they didn't let on anything about this question.

Whomer

[QUOTE=Applerocks]After scanning bulk of reports here. I get mixed feeling about th quality of Russian Girls if any in the sauna's. Can any seanior member help in letting me know where quality Russian chicks are available?

Also, as far as girls are concerned 18 is far better than Rio. But since I am more of an ambience person was just wondering about quality of Rio girls.[/QUOTE]

Applerocks,

it is like always. You can hit and you can miss. I had fantastic sessions with a Russian girl in 18. I visited her 3 times, and expanded all three times to 2 or 3 hrs. Unfortunately I wasn't able to meet her outside. She was outstanding.

And I had outstanding sessions with girls resp. women from other ethnics.
Why did I choose the Russian girl? Because she smiled to me. She wanted to come into business. And she tried to choose her customer by her attitude. For me -and many other followers- a smile and eye contact is a good way to evaluate if she is the right one.
So: If you meet a Russian girl and she smiles (and you too), then go ahead. You won't regret it. If she looks to the ceiling and you choose her, I guess you won't be very happy about her.

18 had sometimes only a few and sometime more Russian girls. Same in Rio. You have to try it.

Finally, it doesn't matter so much if you are at 18 or Rio. It is about the girl and you.

whomer

[QUOTE=Haimhle]Is it possible to bring the cell phone with you into the sauna and not leave it in the locker?[/QUOTE]

Yes, you can.

Suggestion: Use a resealable plastic bag (like you need to bring liquids with your carry-on luggage for a flight) or something similar.

Some saunas (like 18) have small lockable boxes in the sauna area, you can store your phone. But in most of same you have to carry the phone with you. So make sure that it can survey the water in the shower and the heat in the real sauna..... :)

[QUOTE=LukeSkyWanker]Been reading these Sauna reports and they sound like my type of place, I have a big fucking problem, when I am in Macau in 2 weeks the wife will be in tow!

Does anyone know of a Sauna I could take the wife, what I want is when we enter she is taken away for her treatment Eg pedicure, manicure, facial etc

While she is having her pampering I would be able to have my pampering Eg facial, cim, bbj

It would have to appear ligit to the wife.

May the force be with you.[/QUOTE]

LSW,

there are a couple of sauna where your wife can stay. Unfortunately those are not the saunas you want to go. Fortunately in Asia most places have different saunas for men and women.

If you stay in a 4 or 5* hotel then they have a spa including sauna and all the services you need for your wife. So it depends on the area you stay.
The way is to bring your wife to a 4 hr session in the hotel spa (sauna, treatment, etc.) and you leave for your own sauna adventure. Make sure to be back in time. This could be a challenge. I.e. if you stay in Dream city (Grand Hyatt, etc.) you will need time to come to a places like 18, Rio, etc..

Another option:
I'm also looking for a sauna which services women. So, maybe you can buy the same service for your wife you want to get for you. :)

[QUOTE=LukeSkyWanker]Been reading these Sauna reports and they sound like my type of place, I have a big fucking problem, when I am in Macau in 2 weeks the wife will be in tow!

Does anyone know of a Sauna I could take the wife, what I want is when we enter she is taken away for her treatment Eg pedicure, manicure, facial etc

While she is having her pampering I would be able to have my pampering Eg facial, cim, bbj

It would have to appear ligit to the wife.

May the force be with you.[/QUOTE]

Here's an idea. Get rooms at the Grand Lapa hotel. It's pretty nice, and they have a very decent, themed spa, ideal for your wife to be treated like a princess for a few hours.

Grand Lapa is DIRECTLY OPPOSITE the Waldo hotel. Literally: the other side of the street. Waldo hotel is the home of East Spa. You can be in and out before your wife notices you're gone.

[QUOTE=Idler31]Here's an idea. Get rooms at the Grand Lapa hotel. It's pretty nice, and they have a very decent, themed spa, ideal for your wife to be treated like a princess for a few hours.

Grand Lapa is DIRECTLY OPPOSITE the Waldo hotel. Literally: the other side of the street. Waldo hotel is the home of East Spa. You can be in and out before your wife notices you're gone.[/QUOTE]

LSW

and so get you a solution, step by step.

Tell us, how you did in your Black Night.

Whomer

I start my report with the second sauna I enjoyed in Macau. I went to Golden where the cost was about 1700 for everything per girl. Not being familiar with the process I grabbed the cutest spinner/girl next door when the lineup came around for someone else.

I took the nylon and Japanese gel action options. I had a great time as the service was awesome and the girl was very playful.

As soon as I was done, I heard about the round-up show they had where the girls teased each man in the lounge area. They rotated from man to man, starting with a lap dance, smashing tities in the face and then one round where they were going down on each guy!

Well missing this, I decided to stay and enjoy the festivities even though it was late. My wing man decided to go back to meet his after hour spa girl take out.

As I stayed I ordered drinks and food, then enjoyed a couple of massages. I saw the lineup real close and was starting to regret my first choice. They had girls in black outfits looking like secretaries and AV girls. If I could redo my selection, I would have taken a secretary first and then go to an AV girl.

I did get to enjoy one round of show time and four different girls sitting and playing with me. However there was no round of blowjobs.

Well anyway, I decided that I was going to do a second round which was discounted slightly- but needed time to recoup to do a second shot. So I ate and slept some more and was in a daze waiting for my next fix. Looking at all the other mongers around me sleeping and relaxing as in a trance, I thought of what an opium den must have been like back in the day. Here I was relaxed as can be, but on the prowl for my next fix.

The next go around, I asked for the lineup and took an unbelievably hot AV girl and selected the gel and vibrating ring. She was also a great fuck and worked very hard to please.

After I was done, I showered had a few more drinks and then took a cab back to my hotel. That night I slept with a huge grin on my face as I had satisfied my lust for the day!

I just wanted to provide a quick recap of my other experiences while in Macau. As for the Macau styled saunas, Golden was my favorite. However, I would start my next trip to Macau at Darlings 2.

Darlings 2 is fashioned in the style of a Thai massage parlor with a fishbowl of Vietnamese girls. Since my friend was leaving that day, we hit Darlings 2 as soon as it opened. We both took 2 girls for 1500 and had the time of our lives. This was by far the closest to PSE I have ever had. This was a 90 minute session and the girls asked me if I wanted to shoot once or twice. I got ambitious and said lets go for 2. They took me to a large tub where they worked me over. I shot my first load in the first girls mouth (age 24) after some serious tit fucking and cock sucking.

We then went to the bed where the second girl (age 20) took over. We sucked and fucked at it non-stop. The second girl could deep throat like a champ. The first girl was also an active participant in all of this. As my time drew to a close, the first girl was sucking my balls and licking my ass as I was fucking the second girl doggie style. These girls took it as there mission to make me finish twice. I couldn't cum again, but made arrangements for the second girl to meet me after work. I finished what I started earlier that day on her face.

18 was the first sauna I went to and the most expensive at over 2000. It had the largest lineup. Showtime there was not as good as Golden, but I had a great time as well. I selected a very cute Chinese girl that looked like Sora Aoi! Her service was great and I shot my load on her huge tits!

There was young girl from 18 that I had come to my room after she was done. She showed up and was eager to please from the get go. I overpaid at 1600 for the experience, but I guess I just felt generous after shooting my load into her mouth. I called her again and she was willing to come over on my last night for 900. I was tempted, but declined as I wanted to make sure I made my flight home.

On a side note, I tried to finish my Macau experience at the Lisboa Race Track. I selected the hottest chick there for 800, but her service was bad. It was something to try, but only suggest it for guys that want to get off in 15 minutes or less.

Great reports W11. You can call Macau the opium den of sex or man's paradise. Whatever you call it, I think it is almost impossible not to have a great time there. Thank God for my Capital One credit card.

On my last trip, I didn't have the time to check out Golden Sauna. This trip I definitely want to hit Rio and East Saunas again, but I also want to branch out and try Sauna e Massagem Familia Nobre and Golden.

Last trip I had a nice time with a friendly Filipina girl I took out of MP3. This time (since I will be travelling on to AC and Manila) I think I want to have a little different kind of fun either Darling 1 or 2.

As to the Lisboa Racetrack: I enjoy stopping by and watching the eye candy for a while and will do so again when I get back into town, but I have better things to do with 800 to 1000hk than get taken for a ride by one of those fillies.

[QUOTE=Whomer]Tonight one of my former girl friends will arrive in Hong Kong. We have planned to go to Macau next week and she is keen to try a sauna there. She likes classy sauna service, espec. sexual services by another woman.

Does anybody know if it is possible for a woman to visit a Macau sauna without joining all the men and boys waiting for the line up?
And if Macau sauna girls offer their service to women, too?

I asked today the agents when I came across the HK ferry terminal, but -as expected- they couldn't answer. At least they didn't let on anything about this question.

Whomer[/QUOTE]

Macau sauna girls mostly are as straight as one can get, and even anal sex is rarely heard. Of course, individually, one or two might be interested, but then you need to know them first. It is just not on the menu.

Two thigh massage girls said they would be happy to work on, and have sex of one sort or another with me while my partner present in the same room, after I told them she's very hot, an ex-model, 176 cm with a great body and ass. They said they would massage her too, but whether that entails sexual services (such licking etc), I have no idea.

Cheers Whomer and Idler for your input, I am actually staying at the Grand Hyatt in the city of dreams. I got a good deal, advance purchase I am a gold club member with Hyatt so like to get the points. I will check out the the places mentioned.


May the force be with you.

[QUOTE=LukeSkyWanker]Cheers Whomer and Idler for your input, I am actually staying at the Grand Hyatt in the city of dreams. I got a good deal, advance purchase I am a gold club member with Hyatt so like to get the points. I will check out the the places mentioned.


May the force be with you.[/QUOTE]

LSW

very nice hotel, only nice gym, but outstanding spa. The spa doesn't offer any sex services, but it is a perfect place for your woman to stay if she wants to get treated like a queen.

I guess you are already on the road again.

I'm going to try to make a couple of trips to Macau in the next two weeks, for a first taste of the saunas. Going to go once or twice, making the trip from Hong Kong for a few hours of the day. I'll be posting some reports soon.

Hope you have a good trip. If you don't mind, PM me the addresses and or numbers or post it on the board. Have fun

I am now at Sanado at the computer, last day here in this lovely city of ladies! My pick for the best two massage outlets has to be Sanado and Excellent at the hotel Grand Emperor. For the past 5 days, I have been to a lot of MP, Rio. 18, etc. Never again will I pay that much for sex. Ya, do it once, but then go to the mid level cost MP like Sanado and Excellent. Lovely girls, cost around 1, 000 to 1, 300 with good service in a nice place. Well, going to get my massage now, no power for another round with a young lovely.

I don't consider myself to be a seasoned veteran of Macau, but I certainly have been around in this island paradise. Saunas are hands down my number one choice of venue. However, my experience is mostly limited to 18 and Rio because I insist on high-quality tail. Problem is, those two places are expensive and, in all honesty, overpriced. The few times I visited other saunas, I was disappointed by the quality. Perhaps it was just bad luck on my part, but such was the case.

I've read many reports by various members about the great times they've had at other saunas, so I'm hoping everyone can pitch in on this, for me and for other prospective mongers.

Aside from 18 and Rio, what other saunas offer really stunning girls? I'm talking at least a solid 9 here. And I don't need the facilities to be posh, as long as it's clean it'll be acceptable.

Also, what's everyone's favorite sauna? And why?

Thanks guys!

[QUOTE=Piperpilot;1105490]Hope you have a good trip. If you don't mind, PM me the addresses and or numbers or post it on the board. Have fun[/QUOTE]If you RTFF you will bump into a very exhaustive list of nearly all saunas with addresses

[QUOTE=Seamaster811; 1106862]I don't consider myself to be a seasoned veteran of Macau, but I certainly have been around in this island paradise. Saunas are hands down my number one choice of venue. However, my experience is mostly limited to 18 and Rio because I insist on high-quality tail. Problem is, those two places are expensive and, in all honesty, overpriced. The few times I visited other saunas, I was disappointed by the quality. Perhaps it was just bad luck on my part, but such was the case. Also, what's everyone's favorite sauna? And why?

Thanks guys! [/QUOTE]My experience is mainly at Rio but these year I ventured to Emperor as I was a guest of the hotel there.

I agree, Rio is a bit overpriced but the facilities are 5 stars.

It is of course peanut but whilst at Rio any food seem to be free, at Emperor I had to pay 28HKG (super peanuts, I know, but just mentioning for the talks) for a dish of noodles.

Question is: better pay for some extra food and have decent prices for the mongering side, or have a higher price level and all in? Debatable!

As far as the girls are concerned, I did not see any ugly ones at Emperor, maybe a bit more standard ones.

Let's say that if at Rio you have 8 thru 10's, at Emperor you have 6 to 10's.

As usual nice and stunning is good but service is what one should also look for.

This is the usual hit and miss.

Gednerally speaking Rio has one level up of girls, but at Emperor the choice is not bad at all.

Maybe the mix at Emperor offers a few less 10's.

At Emperor I did not like the wet "bed" (hard to define it a bed, though) , as it is a sort of split (for the legs) chaise longue.

Different league of a wet bed is the Rio's one.

That represents always an astonishing piece of bathroom instrument.

I mean, can you imagine there is somebody designing and producing a kind of pool table that has the primary function to allow a soaped body massage? LOL.

I am wodnering how this is at the other saunas.

Only Asians can do that.

Rio offers the thigh massage in a closed and comfortable cubicle, whilst at Emperor this is performed publicly (still covered by a few towels, of course)

[QUOTE=Seamaster811; 1106862]I don't consider myself to be a seasoned veteran of Macau, but I certainly have been around in this island paradise. Saunas are hands down my number one choice of venue. However, my experience is mostly limited to 18 and Rio because I insist on high-quality tail. Problem is, those two places are expensive and, in all honesty, overpriced. The few times I visited other saunas, I was disappointed by the quality. Perhaps it was just bad luck on my part, but such was the case.

I've read many reports by various members about the great times they've had at other saunas, so I'm hoping everyone can pitch in on this, for me and for other prospective mongers.

Aside from 18 and Rio, what other saunas offer really stunning girls? I'm talking at least a solid 9 here. And I don't need the facilities to be posh, as long as it's clean it'll be acceptable.

Also, what's everyone's favorite sauna? And why?

Thanks guys! [/QUOTE]Since I've had a 'spin' at both the Rio and the Emperor within the last 30 days, I'll weigh in on this comparative discussion if I might:

!) Quality and Nationalities of the Ladies. Seem comparable to me, with perhaps a few more CIS / Russians at the Rio, but this probably varies from night to night. If top-of-the-line PRC Supermodels are your choice, both had a LOT to choose from.

2) Price. It's going to set you back almost $2K HKD if you go high end at either the Rio or Emperor. Might seem a lot, but EVERY man deserves at least one shot in a "Man's Paradise". There's simply no other experience quite like it.

3) Facilities / Ambiance. Both are high end, but in an admittedly subjective view, the nod goes to the Rio. Lounge area is nicer, staff more attentive.

In summary, Bionicman is probably right, the luck of the 'draw' on your chosen lady (GFE? Skills?) will ultimately determine what you think of either place.

Perhaps a more interesting comparison might be made between these '5 Star' establishments such as the Rio, Emperor and 18, and what some might call '2nd Tier', but still with high quality ladies, such as Sanado, Familia Nobre, etc.

My two cents on this: Rio has the best facilities and ambiance. I think of it as a high end city club for men. Everything there is first class. I enjoyed the Japanese bath area, the private thigh massage rooms, and the large lounge area where all customers (members, to stay with my analogy) have plenty of space. Of course the girls were fantastic and there was real depth to the lineup. Rio is my favorite.

That said I also enjoyed East Spa. East is high end too, but the place is smaller than Rio. I enjoyed the private massage rooms, but I wasn't inclined to partake of the sauna area. East Spa's lineup is an interactive show where the girls dance partially nude around all the customers (members) who are lying on lounge chairs. It's a naughty form of musical chairs. Whenever the music and light show stops the girls will climb on top of the nearest customer, rubbing and humping the customer in a seductive way. The show does not last very long, but long enough for three different girls to get on every customer. It is good fun, but truthfully it did not help in the selection process. I had no idea who to pick, but it really did not matter. I picked a nice Chinese girl (7* out of 10*) and she showed me a very good time.

Another time, I arrived before 5pm. I asked when the next line up was going to happen and I got some vague answer, but a female hostess said they would arrange a private lineup if that was my wish. I said that would be nice and about 5 minutes later around 20 bikini clad girls came out and lined up for me. At the head of the line was a real beauty with a knockout body. She was heads and tails above all the rest and when she smiled at me I instantaneously knew I had to have her. I filed a report on that session last March. It was the best lay I had in Macau!

So there you are; the sauna I liked the best was Rio and I never had anything but a great time there, but the best session I had on my last trip to Macau was in East Spa. Now I am returning to Macau in Feb for 4 days and back again in March for 3 days as part of a greater South East Asia trip. I am really looking forward to it. I plan to visit Rio and East for sure, but I also want to check out at least 2 of the following: Familia Nobre, Golden, Sanado, Supreme and now Emperor. LOL.

[QUOTE=Rippa; 1107034]!) Quality and Nationalities of the Ladies. Seem comparable to me, with perhaps a few more CIS / Russians at the Rio, but this probably varies from night to night. If top-of-the-line PRC Supermodels are your choice, both had a LOT to choose from.

Perhaps a more interesting comparison might be made between these '5 Star' establishments such as the Rio, Emperor and 18, and what some might call '2nd Tier', but still with high quality ladies, such as Sanado, Familia Nobre, etc. [/QUOTE]Funny enough, having visited both in November it has been my impression Emperor offered a few more CIS (or allegedly so)! Maybe wrong night.

What is genearally missing or scarcely available are some asian exoctic grils. I refer to Korean and Mongolian.

Korean wear their sort of costume (and you see 1 or 2 in the parade)

Mongolina more dofficult to spot (for a westerner) so you have to relay on the papa-san.

Sometime these guys will sell you their mother as SYT. Not that they are lyer, but they will say yes if you point out to a girl "is she mongolian?".

Your last point is a very valid point.

I'd been wanting to go to Macau for years now, and finally managed it on New Year's eve. I had it all planned out, I was going to have lunch with some friends in HK, head to Sheung Wan, buy a ticket, leave at around 3. 45 and arrive at the place at around 5. I was going to have my fun for 90 minutes, and then I was going to head straight back to HK, and be back in time for dinner at around 7. 30-8 and count down with some other friends. Oh, the things I would do for sex, and oh, how naive I was.

I went to Sheung Wan a little late, and just went into the nearest travel agency (you have to go to the quiet area, and look out for the agencies that have posters of all the places in the front. It feels seedy, you'll see it) and bought a ticket. You don't have to compare prices, they're all the same price as long as you're getting the same package deal. I paid $1620 for a 90 minute two girl service. The guy got me the ticket for the sauna and the ferry ticket. It was all good, I got there fine and quickly took a taxi right to the door, chatting with the taxi driver the whole time. Apparently the hottest sauna right now is 18, where he claimed that there were over 200 girls available every night, and that the Chinese people prefer it because it is more of a club than a brothel, where the girls mingle with the customers and they can spend as long as they want there. I would be very interested if I wasn't under time restraint. If there was no agreed time I doubt I'd ever leave to be honest.

I paced the street a few times until the innocent looking people were out of sight such as old ladies and small children (it's not exactly on a big street, but it is open enough). As soon as I walked in, I was greeted first by the sight of the fishbowl right in front of me, maybe 3 or 4 metres inside the front door, then by the very cheerful mamasan who quickly said to me to choose this one specific girl or a double service, for only $1880. I told her I had a ticket and gave it to her, and she offered the same girl to me again, along with another. I thought she looked nice, so I kept the first girl, but I didn't like the second, and asked for another recommendation. Note that I was looking at all of them. The choice is, as others have said, not plentiful but I feel it is more than good enough. After another failed connection, she offered me the girl that was sitting right next to the first one. The new girl was small and younger, with average boobs like the first girl and big, round eyes. Very, very cute. I didn't hesitate, I picked them and mamasan quickly opened the door and brought them out. I looked at them as they came out and smiled at them, getting shy smiles back in return. They took me by the hands and took me up to a room, asking me if I needed to use the bathroom on the way, as there was no bathroom in the room.

As soon as we got into the room, I was offered a pair of flip-flops, and an old lady came in and put down a cup of tea. Wouldn't leave until I tipped her so gave her a stack of coins in my pocket, it was maybe around $10-$20? She left, and I had a good look around the room. It was just a tiled room, with nothing but a big bed and a big bath. The second younger girl, who was Vietnamese ran the bath while the older girl, who was Thai, helped me out of my clothes. The older girl was a little distant for me, but it was a nice kind, playfully scolded me when I didn't do what she said etc. They told me to lie down on the bed while the water filled the tub, and both removed their clothes and curled into my arms on either side. We chatted while they absent-mindedly stroked me around my body. The bath filled quickly and they quickly brought me over to the bath.

The Vietnamese girl lay in the tub and had me lie on her. Then the Thai girl came to my front and began to wash me. It was very pleasant, the Thai girl did a great job washing me while the Young girl rubbed her body on my back, blowing into my ears and giving me soft kisses. I couldn't take my eyes off the younger girl and she was shy. Eventually, the treatment became a bit more adult-oriented and the Thai girl began to touch me in more. Delicate areas. Started by making me erect with her hands and rubbing her breasts against it and then began a very pleasant blowjob. Sucked on me for about 15 minutes and then asked if I wanted to have one shot in the tub, and then another in the bed later. I replied that I wasn't sure that I could, and that I would just have one on the bed later. They both started complaining, in a playful manner and it was all very fun. The Thai girl moved out of the tub and they drained the water while she dried herself off. The younger girl stayed in the tub with me, and rinsed me off on the edge of the tub, before treating me with her own mouth. She wasn't as skilled but gave much more eye contact and I couldn't take my eyes off of her. Eventually, I got out and the Thai girl dried me off, and ordered me onto the bed. She hopped on with me, and we cuddled and talked while the Vietnamese girl dried herself.

Eventually they were both in bed with me again. They took turns feeling me up and the younger girl was instructed to keep me "entertained", while the Older girl gave me a pleasant, if unskilled massage. Eventually the massaging stopped and they both began the ice treatment, which involved them holding ice in their mouths, one would be focusing on little Yunis while the other would be licking and sucking on my nipples. After about 10-20 minutes of this, the Thai girl said to me "who do you want to fuck first?" There was no choice. I looked at the clock / timer and there was over half and hour left, and I was damn sure I wanted to spend most of that with the cute Vietnamese girl. I pointed at her and she put on a condom with her mouth, and hopped on. Rode me for 5 minutes or so before I took charge and pushed her over. Fucked her for a good 15 minutes with her legs over my shoulders, before the Thai girl pulled me off her and tore off my condom, putting on a new one and then got on all fours, pointing her ass at me. Who was I to say no?

I fucked her like a wild animal and she kept telling me to do it harder, harder until I saw that we had about 10 minutes on the clock. I got off her and pulled off the condom. This was something I wanted, but not sure if they would let me. I asked them to give me a blowjob together. They were confused at what I wanted at first, but quickly caught on. First they did the ice thing again, one on my happy stick and the other on my nipples, but I gently pushed her down and they looked at each other before both starting to service me. I was looking up at the mirror on the ceiling watching all of this and it was truly a great sight, the sight of myself, being serviced by two girls smiling like an idiot. One was working on the shaft while the other was sucking on my balls, and with about 5 minutes to go, I lay them both down next to each other and unloaded all over their breasts. They paused for a second and the young girl ran to the shower and washed herself while the older one stayed with me (this was more than just her being disgusted, we were running out of time). They gave me a quick shower, and this time it was the Vietnamese girl who dried me and helped me get on my clothes. The Vietnamese girl was truly a thing of beauty. Only 20, and kept flirting with me, catching me when I stared at her and telling me to stop, but then coming over and giving me a soft kiss. They took me out of the room and back down to the front, and by the time I had asked for directions back to the harbour and where to get a taxi, they were both back in the bowl. How I wish I'd gotten their numbers.

The return trip was more eventful than I'd planned. When I left D2 it was maybe around 7. 40, and I had lots of trouble getting a taxi. I had to walk all the way to the old street with the shops, and hail down many taxis before I got one that wasn't called there, and I had to take the ferry at 9. 15. To get the return ferry ticket you have to take the little coupon they give you at the sauna and then go down to the travel agency on the first floor, you have to walk a little further than where the gate is.

I got back past 10, obviously too late for dinner but not late for the count down. Completely satisfied mentally, physically and sexually, it was the best count down I have ever had. The only thing that would probably beat it is if I was there AT midnight. All in all, a wonderful experience and you can bet that I'll be going back, unfortunately not anytime soon. My view of the price is that it is very good value, you have to pay more than double that for a far inferior service for double girl fun in different countries. And the free ferry tickets, and for the short amount of travel comparatively, is very very good.

I was worried that my expectations were too high going in but I was very pleasantly surprised that it was pretty much exactly what I expected, and the choice of girl was again not the best, but still very good. If you like Vietnamese / Thai (mostly Vietnamese) girls, and like baths and massages and threesomes, and are in a position to visit D2, there is really no excuse not to.

[QUOTE=Yunis2141;1107883].... head to Sheung Wan, buy a ticket, .......[/QUOTE]Pardon my ignorance, but exactly where in Sheung Wan do you go to buy a ticket for the sauna + ferry package?

[QUOTE=Daddy San;1108039]Pardon my ignorance, but exactly where in Sheung Wan do you go to buy a ticket for the sauna + ferry package?[/QUOTE]On the same level as the ferry departure gate (s) you'll see a number of travel agencies selling hotel packages. Two or three specialize in, um, sex packages. You'll notice them from the posters in their windows with pics of seductive women and the word SEX in letters about a foot tall. You can't miss 'them. A few years ago it was from these very shops that I realized Macau would be a very fine destination, indeed much more than gambling, for my required work visa run.

Have fun!

Hi to every body,

I'm going to travel to Macau next moth, which are the best saunas? Rio, Xanadu and Boss? Who know adress of Xanadu and Boss.

Thanks for help me,

Some one can tell me the adress of Xanadu Sauna.

Thanks

Hi guys,

I'm looking to head over to Macau (first time) later this year for several days. Before that will no doubt be many questions! I want to experience not just the local or regional hot stuff but also European and maybe even Ebony (tell me how likely that is please). My questions:

1. Which Sauna is best for that extra international sexperience?

2. Which hotels are best to stay at to find and pick up a WG relatively easily?

Thanks

[quote=cj8885; 1109703]hi guys,

i'm looking to head over to macau (first time) later this year for several days. before that will no doubt be many questions! i want to experience not just the local or regional hot stuff but also european and maybe even ebony (tell me how likely that is please). my questions:

1. which sauna is best for that extra international sexperience?

2. which hotels are best to stay at to find and pick up a wg relatively easily?

thanks[/quote]first the second question:

i have been to a lot of hotels and none ever made any problems (rio, golden dragon, beverly, lisboa)

even if there was stated "no guests after 23:00", i was in a cheap hotel in the inner harbour once, one night i came back and took the stairs, i the first floor i found like 10 girls sitting in front of their rooms, playing cards, asked for a price, their quoted 300 for 30 minutes, i was too drunk to negotiate but i guess i could have gotten her down, anyway if you keep your eyes open in the inner harbour area you will find a lot of places like this, but usually they don't like caucasians very much,

my hotel recommadation golden dragon, very good rooms for about 650 hk$, rio is a bit more central and sometimes also around 650, be very felxible with your schedule, the prices at chinese holidays can easily hit 10 times.

that much.

first question.

this is always refering to peek time, e. g. weekend 20:00. 02:00, during weekdays there is a lot less girls, but. big but, i had the pleasure once that a vietnamese girl from darling 2 asked me if she could join me in my hotel on her free day, she joined me at 2 pm after her regular blood check at the doctor (anyone know if that is required for all sauna girls?) , very gfe ven went to dinner and then back to my hotel.

a good advice, get a local sim as soon as you arrive, this brought me some of my best nights in macao.

in gerneral i found the quality of non asian to be very poor by looks, but i only tried one russian so far.

i preferrence is

rio: 1700. 2100 hk$

has mostly chinese, there was always a korean, once a very nice african girl and always 2 or 3 russians.

beverly plaza hotel sauna 1400 hk$

vietnam, chinese, japanese, korean, and 2-3 russians only one was doable (which i did, but she was not good, very cold)

sauna familia noble (this place i propably the best for you to check out, but only on peek time on weekends) 1200kh$

chinese, vietnam, mogolia (sometimes) .2-3 african. 2-3 russians.

big boss sauna (not boss sauna) 1400$

last time i was too early but their tv showed all the girls, there was one she would have been too good to be true, she looked like anna kurnikova, also had some more russians but they where soso.

darling 1 1500$ (no sauna, just a big room with 40-60 girls to choose, then go to room, a nice bath and the deed)

sometimes 2-3 russian, rest, chinese, vietnam, thai.

darling 2 1100 hk$ (same as darling 1 only smaller selection)

vietman, some chinese.

lisboa race track (no sauna, just a place in the old lisboa where a lot of girls are walking around, still a must see)

about 800 hk$

mostly chinese, once or twice i have seen a russian.

mp3 bar (took a philipiena from there for 1000 hk$ all night)

a lot of russians but they do pole dancing, not sure if they are available.

golden sauna 1100. 1300 hk$

chinese, vietnam, some indonesian.

18 sauna 1800 hk$

asians, russian, no african

lion bar, mp3 bar, moonwalker bar, d2 my guess 0. 3000 hk$ depents on you.

phillipinas, indonisian, vietnam, locals.

most speak a little to very good english since there is a lot of non asians customers there,

but be careful there is also a lot of normal girls there, locals, party people and hotel / casino employees after work, which doesn't mean they are up to some extra money of the side or even some casual fun.

thats all i can help you with

[QUOTE=Enigmazul; 1109474]Hi to every body,

I'm going to travel to Macau next moth, which are the best saunas? Rio, Xanadu and Boss? Who know adress of Xanadu and Boss.

Thanks for help me, [/QUOTE]Always depending on what you are looking for.

RIO has the best facilities and probably the best looking girls together with 18 sauna, but the girls there were always a bit mechnical and very high price.

Darling 1.

If you go in there the first times you feel like a like boy in a toy store. 40 to 60 girls smile at you, and the massage / cleaning in the bubble bath is a must.

Sauna familiy noble.

Considering everything this is my place, good facilities, sauna, steam room, food, rest room, seperate sleeping rooms if you want to save the hotel cost (for free) , at weekend they have a show time, you sit in a chair and about 10. 15 girls take turns lapdancing on you for about 5 minutes, after that you choose a girl.

But remember it mostly it depents on the girl if you consider the sauna good, make no mistake, as I have done several time, I always rather choose the little less hot girl that is smiling at me rahter then the model type that is staring down

Darling 2 is a favorite. Lower prices, mostly Vietnamese girls, but best bang for your $

Is it possible to pay at the saunas with international credit cards?

I will go tomorrow to Macau but I have no Hk$

[quote]Always depending on what you are looking for.

RIO has the best facilities and probably the best looking girls together with 18 sauna, but the girls there were always a bit mechnical and very high price.

Darling 1.

If you go in there the first times you feel like a like boy in a toy store. 40 to 60 girls smile at you, and the massage / cleaning in the bubble bath is a must.

Sauna familiy noble.

Considering everything this is my place, good facilities, sauna, steam room, food, rest room, seperate sleeping rooms if you want to save the hotel cost (for free) , at weekend they have a show time, you sit in a chair and about 10. 15 girls take turns lapdancing on you for about 5 minutes, after that you choose a girl.

But remember it mostly it depents on the girl if you consider the sauna good, make no mistake, as I have done several time, I always rather choose the little less hot girl that is smiling at me rahter then the model type that is staring down[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zamziv; 1109930]Is it possible to pay at the saunas with international credit cards?

I will go tomorrow to Macau but I have no Hk$[/QUOTE]Yes. I have used my Capital One Visa Card in East Spa and Rio many times. No FX transaction fee. Saunas eat up a lot of cash. That's why it is very good thing to be able to put it on the card.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1109993]Yes. I have used my Capital One Visa Card in East Spa and Rio many times. No FX transaction fee. Saunas eat up a lot of cash. That's why it is very good thing to be able to put it on the card.[/QUOTE]They add 3. At least thats what they keep telling me.

They add 3 percent that is.

[QUOTE=Zamziv; 1109930]Is it possible to pay at the saunas with international credit cards?

I will go tomorrow to Macau but I have no Hk$[/QUOTE]Lots of money exchange in front of hotels. (where Saunas are) But it is true, saunas eat a lot of cash with appr 1500 to 2500HK$ for an evening of fun

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1110005]Lots of money exchange in front of hotels. (where Saunas are) But it is true, saunas eat a lot of cash with appr 1500 to 2500HK$ for an evening of fun[/QUOTE]They realy eat a lot of cash. I already have the telephone no. Of 2 girls that I could call when in macau but I always feel the urge to try out new stuff and I am mostly dissapointed compared to those two and left with an empty wallet.

So far the experiances with sauna girls in my own hotel room have almost everytime been better, longer and cheaper

The FX charge is added by the credit card company. Master card charges 3% but the exchange rate is often better than what is available for cash exchange on location. So often it is a wash and I prefer not to carry large amounts of dough. Bear in mind that exchange bureaus in Macau are sometimes very picky about the condition of banknotes they will accept. I've had US$100 with minor blemishes rejected at the counter near the racetrack.

[QUOTE=Osuul; 1110027]They realy eat a lot of cash. I already have the telephone no. Of 2 girls that I could call when in macau but I always feel the urge to try out new stuff and I am mostly dissapointed compared to those two and left with an empty wallet.

So far the experiances with sauna girls in my own hotel room have almost everytime been better, longer and cheaper[/QUOTE]Obviouysly if one goes to a sauna with a sort of "brothel approac, IE select a girl from a line, have your deed and leave, the sauna is not appropriate, even if the rooms do offer a bit of a difference than a mere brothel.

One has to see the (Macau) sauna experience as a whole. Stay few hours, enoy a few side services, as japanese shower, body scrap etc etc.

Clearly this raises up the costs, but the whole experience is memorable and worth the money you spend, whatever anount this is, depending on the level of the venue.

So even in a cheap (Macau) sauna the overall costs are far more than a 161 girl in HK, than a FL (or a sauna girl in her freetime) coming to your room.

No doubt.

[QUOTE=Nutty Smith;1110032]The FX charge is added by the credit card company. Master card charges 3% but the exchange rate is often better than what is available for cash exchange on location. So often it is a wash and I prefer not to carry large amounts of dough. Bear in mind that exchange bureaus in Macau are sometimes very picky about the condition of banknotes they will accept. I've had US$100 with minor blemishes rejected at the counter near the racetrack.[/QUOTE]All true. This is what I am talking about. Capital One Visa does not hit you with the 3% FX charge. It is the only cc I know of that does not do it; therefore it is a very good card to have in your wallet. Hey that sounds like the commercial.

One time in HKG and Macau, I had a 100 dollar bill with a small pin hole in the center right of the bill. I tried to cash it 5 or 6 times. I even offered to take less in exchange. No dice. Then one day I got lucky when a different money changer did not notice the hole.

One more thing about using plastic; make sure to notify your credit card company that you will be travelling abroad so the fraud department does not freeze your account after the 2nd or 3rd significant charge.

What is the earliest time to can enjoy there?

Of course with a decent line up.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Zamziv; 1109930]Is it possible to pay at the saunas with international credit cards?

I will go tomorrow to Macau but I have no Hk$[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zamziv; 1110125]What is the earliest time to can enjoy there?

Of course with a decent line up.

Thanks. [/QUOTE]Not before 18:00 better 20:00 best 22:00. The most girls have shifts from 18:00 to 4:00.

Not sure when they have the first showtime with strip show. Man that girl that did the strip show in the middle of the pool was unbelieveable.

[QUOTE=Zamziv; 1110125]What is the earliest time to can enjoy there?

Of course with a decent line up.

Thanks. [/QUOTE]First decent lineup is usually at 2 pm if I remember right. Maybe about 30 girls at that time. Around 8 pm they will be about 100 or so.

[QUOTE=Henio;1110246]First decent lineup is usually at 2 pm if I remember right. Maybe about 30 girls at that time. Around 8 pm they will be about 100 or so.[/QUOTE]Last time I was there at 3 pm and they had only 6 girls there

Arrive at 15:00.

Directed to the 5th floor of Rio hotel.

Got a locker, a robe and headed the lounge area (didn't see the pool)

A nice Indonesian sweetie " Judy " offers drinks and food.

Free cigarets are there too.

Very few western men.

Chooses a foot massage for 140$. Not really good.

After a while 3 gals walked around the lounge ringing a bell.

Followed the other guests to the upper floor and we all stand in a dark room with a dancer.

A line up of about 20 girls came in and the managers start to push us to choose.

The line up quality was so so 6-8.

I chooses #121 but went back to the lounge for some more rest.

After 15. Minutes I walked up and escorted to a nice but small room

A guy showed in and explained the menu. 100$ happy hour discount on the girl cost (2100$) for 60 minutes.

The girl came in, undressed me and pointed the bath-no English at all.

She washed me all around and preformed a soapy body massage.

After 10 minutes dried me up and to the bed.

Quick foreplay and BBBJ I fliped her to 69, she put the condom and turned on her back spread her legs and with closed eyes waited.

What could I do? I started to mish her.

Performance? So so.

Down to the lounge, found a seat by a nice HK guy.

Some food and talks and the guy said he will get a traditional Chinese massage.

I asked the manager for the same and had a good one hour massage at a side room.

Had to catch a ferry so went toasted the exit.

On the way I found the pool but it was too late.

Total damage 2500hk$

If you are into upscale establishment. It's the place.

Service so so.

To make a long story short after the hour.

No shower only a combo bath / bed.

The girl came in.

Hi there,

Last March, I had a great session at the Sauna e Massagem Familia Nobre, so this year, en route from HKG to SIN, I decided repeat and put in a layover (pun intended) in Macao, before flying onward from there.

I want to take an afternoon ferry from HKG, stay overnight at the Sauna e Massagem Familia Nobre and take an noon flight to SIN.

My questions are:

Can someone please confirm, that an overnighter is in fact possible at the Familia Nobre?

Do I need to book an overnight room? Ahead of time?

Or do I just tell them when I arrive?

Or do I just stay till they kick me out?

Is there a luggage locker? The locker you keep your clothes in is not nearly large enough.

Thanks for your input.

DS

[QUOTE=Zamziv; 1110453]Arrive at 15:00.
Directed to the 5th floor of Rio hotel.
Got a locker, a robe and headed the lounge area (didn't see the pool)
A nice Indonesian sweetie " Judy " offers drinks and food.
Free cigarets are there too
Very few western men.[/QUOTE]I am surprised you did not see the pool, it is on the way to the lounge.

Aside the pool the girls offer the japanese shower, a sort of heating up shower!

English is not much of an option when you take asian girls, apart some nationalities (philipino or indonesian)

One needs to establish a bit of a link with the girls to get connection and service.

Indeed sometime this does not happen, lack of chemistry, and so not the best session.

Everybody's and nobody's fault.

The visiting time maybe did not help either. I read the line up was of some 20 girls.

Usually the line up is well over 40/50 girls, so wider choice is there.

At Rio the soap massage is the best I ever had and always amazed by the "technology" of the bath bed.

Stil one needs a bit of chemistry. Otherwise it become a "wham bam, than you m'am". At that point better go in a more brothel type joint: enter, select a girl, do the deed and leave.

Macau's saunas require some approach also from the customer and have to be seen within the frame of a different culture.

There are a lot of side services to be enjoyed. Obvioulsy the total expenses go up.

[QUOTE=Daddy San; 1110493]Hi there,

Last March, I had a great session at the Sauna e Massagem Familia Nobre, so this year, en route from HKG to SIN, I decided repeat and put in a layover (pun intended) in Macao, before flying onward from there.

I want to take an afternoon ferry from HKG, stay overnight at the Sauna e Massagem Familia Nobre and take an noon flight to SIN.

My questions are:

Can someone please confirm, that an overnighter is in fact possible at the Familia Nobre?

Do I need to book an overnight room? Ahead of time?

Or do I just tell them when I arrive?

Or do I just stay till they kick me out?

Is there a luggage locker? The locker you keep your clothes in is not nearly large enough.

Thanks for your input.

DS[/QUOTE]I stayed there once overnight, not that I wanted to, but all hotels were booked out. The captain even asked me by himselfe at around 3 am if I wanted to sleep. I didn't make any reservation or anything. Could have been luck that they had enough rooms but after seeing how big the sauna is I would say they have plenty. (we walked 400 meters to the sleeping area)

Other saunas over the same, but some don't have seperate rooms or even all they have is the chairs in the resting room.

Not sure about the luggage. I only had my laptop bag with me which fitted into the locker. But I guess they will deal with it professionaly.

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1110515]I am surprised you did not see the pool, it is on the way to the lounge.

[/QUOTE]Happened to me once too. They have a pool cleaning or something from 2 to 4. In that time they open a short cut route directly to the resting area.

For the lack of service. I had the same feeling most of the times. But I can't understand the looks were only 6-8.

I would say most were in the 8-10 region.

Anyway I like the outgoing girls more, like the ones that do the showtime in familia noble. Never picked ones from the model catagory. They are hot but they always look they are bored to death.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1109993]Yes. I have used my Capital One Visa Card in East Spa and Rio many times. No FX transaction fee. Saunas eat up a lot of cash. That's why it is very good thing to be able to put it on the card.[/QUOTE]I know my Amex charged me this fee as well before and I asked them to remove it. They did as a one time courtesy. Its charged on all foreign transactions is what I was told.

Cash is King in Macau and I rather get MOP anyway, alittle more bang and against the USD, its not bad at almost 8-1 currently.

PC out

How I read, the best saunas are Rio and 18? Which is the 3rd one? What about Xanadu?

Please some recomendation about it.

[QUOTE=Enigmazul; 1111463]How I read, the best saunas are Rio and 18? Which is the 3rd one? What about Xanadu?

Please some recomendation about it. [/QUOTE]Whats your criteria for best?

[QUOTE=Daddy San; 1110493]Hi there,

Last March, I had a great session at the Sauna e Massagem Familia Nobre, so this year, en route from HKG to SIN, I decided repeat and put in a layover (pun intended) in Macao, before flying onward from there.

I want to take an afternoon ferry from HKG, stay overnight at the Sauna e Massagem Familia Nobre and take an noon flight to SIN.

My questions are:

Can someone please confirm, that an overnighter is in fact possible at the Familia Nobre?

Do I need to book an overnight room? Ahead of time?

Or do I just tell them when I arrive?

Or do I just stay till they kick me out?

Is there a luggage locker? The locker you keep your clothes in is not nearly large enough.

Thanks for your input.

DS[/QUOTE]To Daddy san.

The sauna in Macau is different than Zhu hai and dogguan China, you don't need to tell them ahead of time you are staying over night, the min charge is around 200 hkd if you didn, t get any service that included drink, food and use of the facility and sleepy room no private room.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Osuul; 1110595]I stayed there once overnight, not that I wanted to, but all hotels were booked out. The captain even asked me by himselfe at around 3 am if I wanted to sleep. I didn't make any reservation or anything. Could have been luck that they had enough rooms but after seeing how big the sauna is I would say they have plenty. (we walked 400 meters to the sleeping area)

Other saunas over the same, but some don't have seperate rooms or even all they have is the chairs in the resting room.

Not sure about the luggage. I only had my laptop bag with me which fitted into the locker. But I guess they will deal with it professionaly. [/QUOTE]Familia Nobre or How Ming Sauna is one of my favs. They also offer a free add on before 7pm if you pay before then.

Meet a great Viet girl there that I still see for freebie sex and sleep overs. She buys dinner and brings to me too. Sweet girl too.

PC out

[QUOTE=Pcpc1688; 1111814]Familia Nobre or How Ming Sauna is one of my favs. They also offer a free add on before 7pm if you pay before then.

Meet a great Viet girl there that I still see for freebie sex and sleep overs. She buys dinner and brings to me too. Sweet girl too.

PC out[/QUOTE]Where is How Ming Sauna? Never been there

[QUOTE=Osuul;1112101]Where is How Ming Sauna? Never been there[/QUOTE]Osuul,

Its the same Sauna, How Ming is the Chinese name of it is all.

PC out

Question: Have any of you guys been to Macau during the week of Chinese New Year? What's it like? The reason I am asking is because my visit will be from Feb 6 through the 9th. Normally Sunday through Thursday is a good time to visit Macau. I am locked in and I realize now too late that I should have checked the calendar before booking. Never again, still, I remain optimistic that it will be good times for all and the saunas will not be too crowded.

Also I am flying into Hong Kong on Friday the 4th. Again, what can I expect the bar scene to be like on Chinese New Year weekend in HKG? I much appreciate your experience here. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1114476]Question: Have any of you guys been to Macau during the week of Chinese New Year? What's it like? The reason I am asking is because my visit will be from Feb 6 through the 9th. Normally Sunday through Thursday is a good time to visit Macau. I am locked in and I realize now too late that I should have checked the calendar before booking. Never again, still, I remain optimistic that it will be good times for all and the saunas will not be too crowded.

Also I am flying into Hong Kong on Friday the 4th. Again, what can I expect the bar scene to be like on Chinese New Year weekend in HKG? I much appreciate your experience here. Thanks. [/QUOTE]Bad timing, the hotel prices will be 4 to 5 times as much. I always avoided this time. My guess would be all Chinese girls will be going home and a lot of tourists will fight for the rest. The fireworks should be great though.

I visited Macau for the first time in 5 yrs at the end of December. Before I went I found this forum and really got a lot of good information and stories / reviews so I decided that I would write up my little trip. I arrived around 12pm and took a free shuttle from ferry terminal to the Lisboa and tried to walk from there and find my hotel but got lost and found myself with a map in hand trying to get my bearings with the hotels that were around me. But the good thing was that my 20mins of wandering the streets allowed me to stumble upon a few saunas that I have read about like the one in the Fortuna hotel and also Sanado which was the one I wanted to go to first. Finally I found my hotel and they allowed me an early check-in. I probably should have taken a nap since I really only got about 2 hrs of sleep that night before and none on the flight from Taiwan but I wanted to walk back over to the Lisboa to see the racetrack again. Seeing the racetrack 6 yrs ago was a real eyeopener back then. I was with a colleague (I'm white, he's Chinese) who was also there for the first time and we took a wrong turn (or the right turn) after exiting the casino and found one of the most amazing sights. Back then I lived in HK and came to Macau only 3 times during a 2 yr period and I did take up the services of the Lisboa girls twice- this was before I knew anything about the whole sauna scene and the "level of service" comparatively. As mentioned in other posts, and looking back those sessions 6yrs ago they were just ok. A bit rushed but the hotness of the girls sometimes cannot be matched at the saunas. On this day were plenty of ladies walking about and it was only 1pm. I only did a quick walk through as I wasn't planning on staying for any services, but the girls seemed average but perhaps it was still early. I left thinking I might come back during one of the 3 nights I would be in Macau but surprisingly never did. I guess I graduated from the Lisboa scene. I went back to my hotel to get a bite to eat (should have ate at the sauna) and some sleep.

After I woke, I wasn't sure if the 20% discount for Sanado was entering before 5pm or 6pm so I didn't take any chances and quickly walked over as it was past 4:50pm. There was a guy outside and I was shown downstairs and it was just as most have described before. First was a change in the locker room, then a shower and a girl to help to wash up and super quick BJ. The 3 girls by the shower they were all dressed with Santa robes on, but took them off when washing me up. After the shower, I proceeded to change into the robe and shorts and they quickly escorted me into the main lounge area where of the around 20-24 chairs about 4 were left open. I sat down and the music was fairly loud but no show yet. After about 5mins most of the rest of the seats filled and the girls did their walk through in their chef's outfits and one girl sat by each guy (except for a few guys). I didn't really get why because there were enough girls- unless they needed to have 3 girls up in the front shower area at all times for newcomers? So because of the missing girls, some guys (including me) were left alone without a girl during different phases of the show. I had a girl to start the show and the 1st phase is the nipple lick (they lick yours) , the next phase (which I had no girl) was the titty grab- which I would have gladly given up the nipple lick for the titty grab as the nipple lick and the next phase: ear lick- I really could care less. After the ear lick was the reverse cowgirl grind and then the 5th and final one which again I missed out on was the HJ (the girls slides up next to you and reaches into your shorts). I wasn't too happy as most of the guys enjoyed the HJ. The girls left and then came back in for the lineup and had the Santa robes on again. They turned up the lights so we could get a better view of the girls and I had 2 girls in mind but honestly the quality of the girls didn't seem that great. I should mention this is only my 3rd time back at a sauna. The first two times were 5yrs ago and both times at the big boss sauna which I first stumbled upon late one night walking back to my hotel. My first Boss experience was fantastic and the 2nd one was very disappointing, but I won't get into those stories.

So as the Sanado girls lined up I know the philosophy- choose the girl who "seems" eager and friendly but I used my smaller head to pick the very hot Chinese girl. I was lucky as the woman manager was standing right next to me and asked me first if I had a girl in mind. That girl was just way too hot to pass up even though I prepared myself mentally that the service might be poor, but she didn't seem stuck-up or unemotional so I hoped that everything would be good. I was given the service sheet of paper where I could check off 6 service items that I liked. They already had 4-5 checked off so I could choose 6 more. I actually really had a hard time choosing because I'm not really into body licking or other things they offered. But I chose six items and we walked to the room. Now I'm writing this after a day has passed so I have had time to compare my experience, but at the moment the room seemed comparable to what was at the big boss sauna 5 yrs ago. It was fairly small and it had a mirror on the sides of the wall but not the ceiling (which I would have liked). It had a LCD TV blasting Japanese porn (uncensored : ). She took me to the shower and washed me down. She was probably about 5'4' without shoes on with natural full B-cups. I speak only a little Chinese so the conversation was just the basics like name, where we were from and age. I laid down on the bed and she started with the service list-it was very cookie-cutter / methodical, but honestly I could look at her body and face for ages. Her BJ skills were below average and after running through the services (which later I found out she did really quickly compared to other girls) she put the condom on and proceeded to jump on (without asking). Now I know this is a no-no as I fully realize she is going to start bouncing to get me to pop as quickly as possible but I didn't stop her and after only 2 mins had passed, I was close to finishing I thought I had two choices- either flip her over now to a new position or finish but give her the ol' poker face. I opted for the latter since I hadn't had sex in about 2 days and thought going back-to-back times might be possible so I as I 'finished' I gave her the poker face but also told her (in Chinese) that she was beautiful. She smiled and it worked. She kept bouncing up and down and even readjusted and pounded harder- perhaps she was perplexed how her technique wasn't working. So as she kept going harder I was able to keep about 75% and she kept going like a little energizer bunny as I played with her boobs. At this point she did give a little moaning but nothing over the top. Now I'm in my mid-30s now so although I do have some stamina, it's not like my 20s anymore. I knew that if we switched positions she would definitely see that I finished so as she pulled me up, still in cowgirl I was holding on for another 2-3 mins but really didn't think I could do a 2nd time so I played with her boobs a bit more and then faked my finish. Now I showered and dried off- now only about 40mins had passed and I wasn't sure if there was any other service at the end so I sat on the bed with my towel and after she showered she said I could dress and she made the call to tell them the deed was done. After she talked for a couple of seconds she handed the phone to me and the girl on the line asked if everything was ok. I said yes, but I still wasn't sure if that was because of the 40mins only or not. Now the same form where I checked off the 6 services has a "comment" section where you rate the services as either very good, good, average, ect. Now I wanted to just put good since she was good (with her hotness being the main factor) but not great but she was standing right there bending over looked and I felt really bad so I checked very good.

So we walked out arm-in-arm and she was still very friendly as I sat down the lounge area that was adjacent to the main lounge area. I ended up getting a bite to eat from the free part of the menu and contemplated if I should leave and go the bed (it was only about 8pm but I was really tired). I ended up staying and another hour and they had a second show where I did participate in the other secondary lounge area and got a girl for each phase. After another 30 mins I decided to leave. It was a little before 10pm but I needed some sleep. I didn't have any of the foot and shoulder massages so the final out the door bill as 1200 hkd / mop even. I thought that was a great deal. As I paid they gave me a coupon but I still have no idea was it actually would get me as 99% of it was in Chinese. The only English said "free" but really I don't know what it was for. However, the good thing about the coupon was that it showed that the company that owns Sanado is the East Spa club which from reading the other posts I knew about the East spa inside the Waldo. On the back it showed where the Waldo hotel was so I decided that tomorrow would be the East Spa.

Day 2.

After a very long sleep I woke around 12pm. I was hungry but thought I might hold my appetite until the waldo and the free food. Since I haven't been back in Macau for about 5yrs, I only saw the beginnings of the Vegas style casinos being opened (the Sands). So I decided to go over and walk through the Wynn and MGM and compare with the Wynn in las vegas which I've stayed at a few times. Everything was pretty normal looking, I continued through to the MGM and then out the back part which I think was the new (post-move) Manderin oriental which faces the water. Out the of that hotel, I took a left turn and headed in the direction of the Sands and after a few blocks I saw a few bars (not open yet) including MP3. Now thumbing through previous posts on this forum last year before my trip I read that MP3 closed as a previous location, I guess- and MP4 (which also I heard was closed) was a bar where Philippa girls would hang out at night. Although I only have a slight interest in that, I thought I might check it out after the Waldo around midnight if I was not tired just for kicks.

I continued on and hit the Sands but really for the sole purpose of taking the free shuttle over the the Venetian which I heard had some Lisboa-style ladies walking the food court. Now just a week before I left I read the post about the crackdown / raid of pimps and hookers there so I wasn't expecting much. After walking in from the shuttle area I think I spotted about 4 working girls (meaning ones without husbands, cameras, shopping bags and huge coats). I took the escalators up to the shopping area trying to find the food court. But I pretty much was wandering around for 10min because the place is huge and like a maze- seems much larger than the Vegas one- I actually missed the food court area the first walk through. I went in and out of a few stores but really just killing time. I found the food court and did a once around but didn't see any girls so I went back downstairs to the Starbucks as I was getting hungry and wouldn't mind coffee. So grabbed a coffee and a muffin and sat fairly close to the entrance to see if I could spot some ladies. I saw two sets of ladies in all black miniskirts and assumed they might be working as they did seem to be scoping out some of the guys but they were much tamer than the lisboa as that area is full of tourists / families. After eating and still being pretty early I decided to go back upstairs to kill time. I went through the food court again and didn't see any girls- this was early / mid afternoon so I have no idea if more come out at night. I walked over to the Four Seasons shops and took a look at the super expensive clothes before going back to the shuttle area for a free ride back to the Sands. It was about 4:30pm by the time I walked over to the Waldo and I wasn't sure if it was too early for the east spa at the waldo, but I did walk over slowly and took the elevator up the the 6th where they greeted me and asked if I had a coupon. I just remembered my coupon they gave me from the Sanado was also good for the East Spa but I left it in my jacket which was in my hotel room. As I took off my shirt in the locker room I debated if I should go back to get it. I keep remember it saying"free" something so since it was early I told them I would go back to get it. I later found out from one of the back massage girls that it pretty much is worthless. I arrived back right around the time for the show and was escorted in and got pretty much the same shower treatment as sanado. They took me into the lounge area which had 2 sections in the main area and about 20 seats. When I sat down it was only about 60% full but within about 10mins it was totally full and they were having to take other guys into secondary lounge areas. The show started with the MC speaking in both English and Chinese and there was a very thin "white" looking girl that was helping to setup a game they had planned. I later learned from one of the TV screens that scrolled all of the east spa staff that she was the "event coordinator". The game was pretty tame and took 3 guys up to try and put some sticker on girls boobs blindfolded. After that took up about 5 mins the show started with pretty much the same setup as Sanado except instead of doing the reverse cowgirl grind and HJ, they did a little BJ session which was a nice touch. I knew something like that might be coming because right before the BJ was 1min of the girl wiping down our 'thang' with one of those wet-cloths Then the lights came on and girls lined up and it was bad. A lot of girls but none that even remotely interested me. I began to regret my decision to come. I told the manager girl that I would probably eat first instead of choosing now which a probably would have done anyways but that lineup was pretty sad. And pretty much all of the other guys passed on this lineup as well. I guess it was really bad on everyone's standards.

So I ate and drank a little of their free offerings. One of the massage girls asked if a wanted a back rub and since I passed on the lineup I decided what the heck. But what a mistake- horrible. I was a bit worried she might injure me. I'm no massage expert (the only massage I've ever had was 200usd in a upscale spa and it hurt, but in a good way). She was sadistic, but what could I expect I guess for that price. After doing one side I almost wanted to tell her that it was ok and please stop but instead I just mentioned to go softer on the other side which she did.

After the crappy back rub, I wanted to see if I could use a laptop but they said they didn't have any and they I could only use the 3 computers in the pool / sauna area, so I went out there but didn't write any emails because the screens were huge and pretty much anyone walking by could see. So after about 10mins of clicking around and decided to walk back in and of course my seat was taken since the place was very busy so I walked down to the secondary room and saw that was all full too. Then I walked further to the 3rd lounge area where only 2 guys were sitting. I sat down and wondered if there would be a lineup in this room. The other 2 guys left and a few mins later another Chinese guy came in and sat right next to me and started talking in English. It was nice to have a conversation and after seeing a few girls walking past in the hallway and one in particular- he asked the girl manager who passed by for a lineup which came in about 5mins. I guess I found the right guy to hang with. It was about 10 girls and 3 girls I definitely didn't see before and were very nice. They weren't terrific but I did see one very tall Chinese girl with fairly large boobs. She was full bodied- normally I like thin girls- but she wasn't fat. Just not a thin type. I said I liked her but the guy next to me said no the the rest of the girls as the girl we saw from the hallway was not in this lineup.

I was given the exact same sheet as Sanado and changed only a few choices. The girl was very pretty and friendly and took the paper and left for what seemed like 10 mins. I later learned it was super busy so we had to wait for a room. When she came back she mentioned in Chinese to the guy next to me that she was a a little nervous that I didn't speak Chinese. I also found out that she was from the nothern part of China. Then we went down the hall and then up some stairs to the next floor up which was full of normal hotel rooms (I wonder what would happen if someone accidently choose the 7th floor in the elevator). When we got to our room it was pretty impressive compared to Sanado. Obivously with a full hotel room we got 2 full-sized beds pushed together and a full bathroom with a toilet, tub, ect. Same routine as before- she helps be shower, then she showers. She was extremely friendly and actually spoke more english than I had expected. She was tall even without her heels on and was about an inch shorter than me and I'm 5'10' without shoes on. Although I wouldn't describe her as thin, I couldn't really find any fat on her. A small see-cup but her whole body was super tight. We got to the bed and she proceeded with the routine which was pretty much the same as Sanado. I forgot to mention that part of the "set menu" is a rim job which after only having it done 4 times I'm still not sure I really enjoy or not. She went through the services a little slower than the Sanado girl from yesterday but she either forgot to do the 360 BJ or I checked the wrong box. But I didn't much care because her BJ skills were extremely good. She could go much deeper than the other girl and another min or so I might could have finished in her mouth if I wasn't paying per "shot". After that she slipped on the condom and asked what position and I said missionary. I got to the act and again after 2-3 mins I wondered if I should switch to doggie or not. She had a really tight body and even with her length she was quite flexible. I decided to continue to do missionary pushing her legs every-which-way and again as I got closer to the finish line I decided to got into stealth mode and kept pounding away as I finished. I kept at it for another 2 mins or so and still kept going but I was debating if I really could do a 2nd one. I decided to go for it because her 'reaction'/acting / whatever was really hot. A very natural, whisper moans that sounded real in my mind at least so I kept at it but I knew that I would really have to start pounding to get a 2nd one off but I knew I might get caught if I changed positions so I decided to pull her up so we were facing each other then laid back and like a pro that she is, she worked cowgirl for another 4-5 mins as I finally got my 2nd one out. So she cleaned me up but unlike the Sanado girl- she climbed into the bed with me and we talked a lot using both English and Chinese and she was nice to talk to. I knew that these girls only can have 7 day visas to macau but she also mentioned that did massaging in Thailand twice already. That sounded a litttle odd but I guess she's a part of some "massage" company / network / pimp. After around the 50min mark we jumped in the shower to finish up. She took me back downstairs and it was still super busy. Actually down the 1 flight of stairs I saw another fairly young white guy passing me. I resisted the urge to say "have fun" and give him a high five.

I was taken into the secondary room where each seat has it's own TV and you can eat there (the third lounge area you cannot eat). And I believe that this secondary room you cannot smoke which is nice for me since I'm not a smoker and not too keen on a smoke halo created by the guy next to me. I was able to figure out how to which the channels on the TV and found some julia roberts movie, eat pray love. Never had the urge to see it before and I guess without much choice of English shows it was pretty entertaining although with all the background noise of the club I couldn't really here the dialogue. I ordered some chicken and udon noodles in a soup but it wasn't as good as the dish I had a couple hrs before. After eating I saw in the hallway the guy I spoke to before and he came in (with the girl he just finished with). I only had a glancing look but it wasn't the one he had an eye on before that passed in the hallway but also wasn't in the lineup we saw together. He mentioned she was a good lay but up close she was a little ugly. He ordered up some food and I just sat back to watch the movie. He mentioned he just got into town and had a long day so that he would leave early.

It was only about 10:40pm and I wasn't tired so I decided to take a look at the pool area and sauna. I changed into a towel and went into the sauna and cooled myself down with the cold pool and got my sweat on. Then I jumped into the shower. I changed back into the robe and shorts and sat down for a drink but decided pretty quickly that I might check out mp3 since it was around midnight. So I changed and went to pay the bill and it was a whopping 2040hkd. I knew that there was no 20% discount and I did have the massage + there is the 10%tax and 5% service charge, but after seeing the Sanado bill from yesterday this seemed pretty high. Before the charges the girl was listed as some elite model cost of 1698hkd. Which taking into account the services charges and 20% discount, the Sanado in general might have much lower pricing even if you went during the peak hours of 8pm-1am. But I have to say that the longer I stayed at East spa I saw more new, hot girls that the Sanado. So I think they might have a bigger selection of girls and they also have nicer rooms. But I'm still not sure if it was worth total price tag, although I can be a penny-pincher.

So I change and head out over to MP3. The streets where pretty quiet but as I got closer to the water and near the bars and restaurants I could hear the music. I walked past MP3 sneaking a look in but didn't really see anything promising. I continued walking and the next bar seemed much busier with a band but some of the girls could have passed as guys so I didn't want to chance that it might be that kind of bar. So I walked around the whole block thinking if I should go back to MP3 as it didn't look that good. I came back around I decided to just go in and check it out. I remember that there may have been an entrance fee or drink min but there was no doorman so I just went to the bar and got a beer. I paid and took my bottle up a small set of stairs to a crescent shaped booth / table which was on the same level as the small pole dance floor and the DJ. Up another small flight of stairs was a group of 4 asian guys and nearer to the entrance were tables and bar chairs with about 3-4 guys and some Philippa girls and 2 probably Russian girls. One of them ended up being one of the dancers and wasn't half bad and the other was sitting alone and was sitting so that I saw her profile and she has one of the biggest noses I've ever seen. Less than 5mins after sitting a girl that later told me she was 26 but I would have guessed over 30 came over. There's no sugarcoating this- she was a dog. One from the county pound that was beaten with a stick. Her english was very good and she was very nice and not really pushy but she did go into a hand massage thing which actually was good but I knew I was going to have to tip her. I only gave her 50hkd. After very small chitchat where I lie about working in HK she asks me for my HK number and my email which I give fake details. After awkward listening and watching of the bad pole dancing she asks if I want a leg massage and I quickly make an excuse about a leg injury to dissuade her. Now I need to mention that during this 15mins of sitting there talking with her and sipping my beer, near the bar is a low 20s something kid flanked by two young Phillipa ladies. Both have very nice bodies but only one of them is actually hot. And these are the only 2 ladies that I would remotely have interest in, but even then I would be very wary taking services from this type of place. That young guy was there went I got in and I watched as the hot one rubbed the outside of crotch area obviously trying to get him to take them back to his hotel. He seemed into it was constantly shaking his head. I mean shaking his head about 2-3 times every min for about 10mins. Part of me was hoping that maybe he would be able to hold out and leave without them but I knew if that happened it would be hard to shake fugly next to me. The young dude finally gave in and left with both of them which was my cue to leave. Luckily the girl never started in with any crotch play so I shook her hand and left. That was a real waste of time but since I wasn't tired I wasn't too bummed. I was hungry so I got a snack at 7-11 and went to my hotel.

day 3.

the next late morning i went back to the wynn and debated if i should gamble. it was pretty busy even though it was lunch and with hk casinos that don't to much with blackjace and roulette which are really the only games i play but actually i'm not much of a gambler. i ended up only watching mostly but finally played for about hr on a new game with dice called sic bo which i kinda like roulette for asians because they love that game. i ended up losing 2000hkd and decided to quit as i had about 1500 left and thought i might go back to s. do because of the cheap price. so around 4:30 i went to s. do and went directly from the shower to the lounge. it was only about half full but as it got closer to showtime it filled up to capacity and they had to escort guys to the secondary lounge. the show stared and this time they were in either nurses uniforms or nuns because the + on their bibs covering their boobs kinda looked like a cross. since it was a packed house the girls filed in and then sat next to each guy but like last time about 2-3 guys didn't have a girl but 3 girls left i guess to go out to the shower area. so like last time i had a girl to start but missed out on the titty grab and the hj sessions of the show. i wasn't too happy. they turned up the lights for the lineup and again it wasn't that impressive (even the girl i had 2 days ago was not there). actually the hottest girl actually was taken up before the show started. so i passed on choosing and got a bowl of fruit and asked for a laptop which they had and i stared writing these posts.

after another hr and a half then had another show and this time with more girls so everyone had a girl (except for one guy on the adjacent main lounge area). so i was able to partake in all of the showtime sessions and i saw that the hot girl i saw earlier would take a turn during the reverse cowgirl session. although pretty short and only be-cups she has a super pretty face and a great smile. she smiled broadly at me but the grind was that good. she ended up grinding my thighs. i thought that might be a bad sign.

when they turned up the lights for the lineup i had my eye on 3 girls (including the hot one) but decided to take another of the "hot" types with pretty big natural boobs. so we went into the room for the shower and everything happened just as before. when i got out and laid on the bed the porn was on but she asked if she could chance the channel. i didn't much care but then she seemed slightly distracted but not really. it was a concert show so it was mostly singing. she went through the routine and was actually pretty good. i would say even better than the east spa girl. but perhaps i'm taking into account the massive soft pillowy boobs- just perfect. i like perky firm ones also but this was heaven. so after all that we get the condom on and she initiates that i should be on top which was fine for me. i did missionary and jiggled the boobs and moved her legs around and then decided i should do doggy since i haven't done that yet. did that for a little bit then back to missionary. a creature of habit i went into stealth mode to see if i could sneak 2 pops but i was pretty pooped out so after another min i pretended to finish. she cleaned me up and then laid back down with me and rubbed my leg and i rubbed her boobs a little as she watched her show. her english was ok and we went back and forth with english and chinese and she was telling me how much she liked the got chinese singer that was on stage. i guess it was good to let her change the channel as she was to sing along with the song softly.

after about 10mins of that and getting close to the hr mark we showered and left. i gave her a very good score although it was hard to figure if i liked the east spa girl or her better. the east spa girl was much more fun but this s. so girls boobs and body was epic.

i went out with her and sat at one of the tables for eating because now i was super hungry. i ate some beef and fried noodles and then came back to the lounge and asked for the computer again to write some more. about 10mins later a new show started. pretty uneventful- i got a girl each session but was pretty full from food so after the show i hopped back onto the computer. it was getting to be around 11pm and i thought about getting into the warm pool and sauna but they seemed to be getting ready for another show and since this was actually dec 31st i thought perhaps they might do something a little more special with the show. but it was the same as always. the only plus side was that for the booby grab i got the girl i picked before with the really nice natural boobs. as they went through the lineup that really hot petite girl was still not chosen even after the 3rd walk-through but i still decided i would just get into the sauna.

as i took my sauna and they showered up to leave i got it my head that since this was my last night and i had to take the ferry back at 6am perhaps i should go back to big boss sauna for old times sake. so i leave sanado and started walking to the general area of where i remembered big boss to be. it was now past midnight and the streets were full of people walking home or finding places to eat. as i got closer to the area i noticed a building with the sign that said boss sauna on it. now i know that was not the place i went to 5 yrs ago but i thought perhaps they moved. so just to double check i kept walking to the place where the big boss was and i found a sauna there but on the neon sign everything was lit up but i could see that the "big boss" part of the sign was dark. i wasn't sure if that was on purpose because it was under new ownership or just a broken light bulb. i walked pass it but was a little shy about it because that place was right next to a bus stop and there were about 20 people waiting. i looked in at the other posters of the sauna but didn't see any signage with big boss on it so i regrettably decided to go back to the boss sauna. took the elevator to the 22nd floor, took a shower and was shown into the brightly-lit lounge area which was quite spacious but probably only had about 20 lounge chairs and 4 tables for eating and a stage and pole in the corner. i didn't walk around much to explore but they also seemed to have some quieter sleeping areas. there were only about 7 guys there which should have been a red flag.

i sat down and ordered some fruit and some water when a very attractive vietnamese girl (massage only) asked my if i wanted a thigh massage. i had the menu of services in hand and she pointed to the "thigh tendon" message which made me laugh. although she was very pretty i just wanted to see the lineup so i declined and then one of the floor managers came over to ask if i wanted a lineup. she said that i had a choice of 988hkd for thai and 1288hkd for vietnamese. i asked what about the chinese and she said that due to a holiday they weren't working. even though i was actually only thinking about getting something around 1200hkd or lower, my already bad feeling was getting worse. the lineup came and it was a train wreck. firstly only about 7-8 girls who were all not attractive- not even a little. one tall thai girl (probably the best of the bunch) and the rest from vietnam. secondly the bright lighting was not doing them any favors and ironically most of them looked like they put on their makeup in the pitch dark. although i insult them here, i'm a nice person and actually do not like to make people feel bad to i kept a plastered half smile and didn't look really at any of them. i kept my eyes on the menu of services and kept asking questions like if it is busy right now and other girls might be in sessions and will come back later (which she said no). while also do calculations in my head as i knew that if i didn't get any of the premium massage services that there would be an entrance fee, so the question was whether i should have just bite the bullet and take the one with the best body and smoothest skin to just leave. my plate of fruit arrived to save the day as i then said i would probably just eat first. so the manager shooed the girls away and now looking at the thigh massage girl who was very pretty to begin with was now looking like supermodel. so with the manager still there i said i would take the thigh massage hoping that it could be done to completion.

i won't go into all the details but at this point i was now very tired and also pissed. i had my shorts off and this very pretty girl massaging my thigh and "tendon". her technique was very slow paced and even though i was at full salute i didn't have the heart to tell her that i all wanted was for a medium paced hj. so i just laid back and fell half asleep. after that i went back to the lounge area and decided to order some food as i was now very hungry and felt i should get something out of this disaster. i was also hoping that maybe one of the other guys (2 new guys came in just i was sat down to order food) would take a lineup and perhaps magically a new girl would be around or there would be something remotely erotic about them. but even as i waited way too long for my food the lineup never came and i didn't want to ask for it again, so i cut my losses, took a shower, paid my entrance fee and thigh massage and left pretty pissed. i was truly regretting not staying and sanado and getting another girl there (although i think the 20% applies only to the services you get prior to 9pm, but i could be wrong). or perhaps the sauna that was at the big boss location that i went to previously could not have been this bad could it? oh and i forgot- the very first red flag that the boss place would be shitty was that in the showers (now this is hard to describe) the water drains to sort of a canal that is sunken into the back floor of all the showers and they put down there moth balls. yes, moth balls (2-3 in each stall). balls that repel moths. i have to guess that this is for some air "freshening" strategy (ie, masking some other stink)? unless moth balls have some other "power" that i'm unaware of it seems unbelievable that they would use such a fowl smelling substance in the showers.

granted this has new year's and perhaps boss has better quality girls on a normal day but that lineup was pretty pathetic. so my nostalgia got the best of me. i should have gone to the superma spa or any spa other than that one and i was kicking myself as i sulked back to my hotel passing the fortuna hotel and back to my hotel for 3 hrs of sleep. i guess that's why i didn't really read much posts on the boss spa from other members. oh well, live and learn.

so my trip was over and although the poor ending with the boss sauna left a bitter aftertaste overall it was a very good time, however i am a bit surprised and i didn't try to do 2 sessions each day (which i wanted to do before i went) , but my wallet thanks me for my frugality.

just some ending thoughts- sanado and east spa since they are owned by the same company it's easier to understand now about their quality control of both girls and facilities. also during my 2 times at sanado and 1 time at east spa i'm pretty sure 90% of the girls were chinese. i'm not an expert but it seemed only 1-2 might have been from vietnam and none were from thailand or europe / russia. but again i was there for 2 days leading up to jan 1 so perhaps that might be a cause.

also both those saunas had a pretty large number of girls to choose by 7-8pm and later. overall, i think the sanado has the best value if you go earlier to get that 20% discount. paying only 1200hkd (not including any other foot / back massages) is pretty darn good considering the free food and drinks. and it also seemed to be not as busy, perhaps due to the fact that it's not inside a hotel. not sure.

but if you're going 6pm or later, east spa is hard to beat but it seemed a bit crowded, however they do have other lounge areas but you can get left out of the shows. my suggestion if that happens is that right after a show there will be a lineup and certainly enough guys will take a girl so that you can move up to secure a seat but then you would have to wait another 1hr+ for the next show. and i should also mention that when it is not so busy the managers are good about asking you if you would like to move up to the main lounge area when i seat is available. but with the east spa, it seems for a chinese girl the pricing might start over 1600hkd so if money is a consideration than sanado might be the best of both worlds.

i wish i had more time and money to visit the other spas people have mentioned like 18 or the rio (a hotel which i stayed at 5 yrs ago but didn't realize at that time their "spa" was that kind of spa). maybe next time.

Nice detailed report wrinkle free. You are right. Sometimes the massages are invitation to breaking ones back. If one is over 40. Be very careful in taking massage from anyone. They apply unnecessary pressure in the ribs and the pain would last the whole trip.

I made a similar mistake while in Sauna 18 and decided to try massage. She nearly broke my back. I had to plead with her with gestures to stop it but she wouldn't as if she left half way the management will fire her. With lost in translation. I sat whole 40 minutes just sitting on the massage table and let the time pass by.

[QUOTE=Starchild2012; 1115090]. Sometimes the massages are invitation to breaking ones back. If one is over 40. Be very careful in taking massage from anyone. They apply unnecessary pressure in the ribs and the pain would last the whole trip.

I made a similar mistake while in Sauna 18 and decided to try massage. She nearly broke my back. I had to plead with her with gestures to stop it but she wouldn't as if she left half way the management will fire her. With lost in translation. I sat whole 40 minutes just sitting on the massage table and let the time pass by. [/QUOTE]Right you are.

I took a massage (with expected HE) at Emperor with a viet girl. Had pain for a few days, even more: I had a couple of blue marks on my arms. She put un-necessary pressure and the massage was dry, using a towel in between my skin and her hands. Not the best choice.

[QUOTE=Osuul]Bad timing, the hotel prices will be 4 to 5 times as much. I always avoided this time. My guess would be all Chinese girls will be going home and a lot of tourists will fight for the rest. The fireworks should be great though.][/QUOTE]I will be in Hong Kong kong from 4. 2 to 7. 2 and will visit Macau saunas one day. It is hard for me to believe that all the Chinese girls would disappear from saunas during this festival time but we'll see. If so, hopefully there will be plenty of vietnamese + other girls for replacement of the Chinese then. I don't care where the girls come from as long as I can find a nice one.

[QUOTE=Keppana;1115108]I will be in Hong Kong kong from 4. 2 to 7. 2 and will visit Macau saunas one day. It is hard for me to believe that all the Chinese girls would disappear from saunas during this festival time but we'll see. If so, hopefully there will be plenty of vietnamese + other girls for replacement of the Chinese then. I don't care where the girls come from as long as I can find a nice one.[/QUOTE]My understandingis that there is also a vietnamese festivity (probably equal to CNY) in Vietnam.

So do not underestimate the rush out from those girls too.

Same as the local staff in Macau. The girls alone cannot run the venue!

Hi gents,

It is a great pleasure to read the reports and gain some knowledge. So thank you all. However I am planning a very shord (just 1 night) stay in Macau on may way from Mainland China to Bangkok (I have some experience in the latter).

Could someone advice me what are the "best" places Saunas to go in Macau? Obviously I won't have time to explore more than 2 or 3 and I am after hot slim girls (preferrably Vietnamese) and I love to have a choice. I have absolutely no knowledge of the place, prices or how it all works because I have never done it in MC. I would appreciate if someone with knoledge would drop a line or two and perhaps link me to some reports.

The best saunas are 18 and Rio, but are the most expensive. But for me the best is sanadu.

Rio and 18 are the biggest and the place have more quality. Rio is the best if you looking for quality. 18 is big like Rio and you can see all the show times, in Rio show times are in a private room that you can go every time you likes. Two have the same propety.

But for me sanadu is the best for all the service that they offer, and less expensive. Sanadu showers are with girl for free, in show time the girls just sit with you and try to make you horny. Well the experience in sanadu for me are the best.

I am in Macau right now, I try 18 first day, Rio second day, sanadu 3rd day. Today I repeat sanadu.

I suggest you that try at least 2 saunas, and you can decide for yourself. But don't worry any sauna is a great experience.

Sorry for my English

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1115187]My understandingis that there is also a vietnamese festivity (probably equal to CNY) in Vietnam.

So do not underestimate the rush out from those girls too.

Same as the local staff in Macau. The girls alone cannot run the venue![/QUOTE]Thanks for your comments Bionicman. Well the only way to find out what is happening in Macau during CNY is to go there and see, and that's what I am going to do. I will be anyway in Hong Kong for 4 days so it is worth to take the 1 hour ferrytrip to Macau. Especially since this will be my 1st time in Hong Kong and Macau lies so close.

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[QUOTE=Keppana;1115108]I will be in Hong Kong from 4. 2 to 7. 2 and will visit Macau saunas one day. It is hard for me to believe that all the Chinese girls would disappear from saunas during this festival time but we'll see. If so, hopefully there will be plenty of Vietnamese + other girls for replacement of the Chinese then. I don't care where the girls come from as long as I can find a nice one.[/QUOTE]I think (hope) this is right. The Saunas are well run businesses. They know all about the increased demand for their services and the girls during CNY week. It's hard to believe they would let a high demand week go to waste. It's like all the department stores in America closing a week before Christmas. It's anti Capitalism!

[QUOTE=Osuul;1114642]Bad timing, the hotel prices will be 4 to 5 times as much. I always avoided this time. My guess would be all Chinese girls will be going home and a lot of tourists will fight for the rest. The fireworks should be great though.[/QUOTE]On the hotel scene; I booked my hotel very early, so I got a great rate. No problem there. My concern was how full the saunas are going to be. I like Macau during the weekdays when you have lots of room to move around and receive a lot of personal attention. I prefer to leave Macau on Fridays before the weekend rush. I screwed up this time because I did not consider CNY. I won't do that next time. Live and learn.

I remain guardedly optimistic that I will still have a great time regardless. I think I will go early to the Saunas to compensate and hit the bars later in the evening. Also, I am returning to Macau at the end of my South East Asian trip for 4 more days of fun in late March. So I am guaranteed of a great 2011 Macau experience one way or another. I will report back for sure.

[QUOTE=Der Tourist; 1115590]Hi gents,

It is a great pleasure to read the reports and gain some knowledge. So thank you all. However I am planning a very shord (just 1 night) stay in Macau on may way from Mainland China to Bangkok (I have some experience in the latter).

Could someone advice me what are the "best" places Saunas to go in Macau? Obviously I won't have time to explore more than 2 or 3 and I am after hot slim girls (preferrably Vietnamese) and I love to have a choice. I have absolutely no knowledge of the place, prices or how it all works because I have never done it in MC. I would appreciate if someone with knoledge would drop a line or two and perhaps link me to some reports. [/QUOTE]See my post further down for some details about each place. At for the discussion about the best sauna RTFF.

Of course others might disagee but after I have been to allmost all saunas I would go like this for a newbee. But your taste might be different.

1. Darling 1.

2. Rio.

3. Famila noble.

Prices start at 1300 at FM to up to 2200 at Rio.

I brought a friend to darling 1. It was fun seeing his jaw drop down when we entered. There is about 40. 60 girls waiting in a half circle. You sit down in the middle and make your selection. In the room its buddle bath with the girl and the deed. About 20 vietnamese there. The later the bigger the selection. In the evening they have a modle category that is like 200 or 300 HK$ more then the others. Most saunas have that. But models are supposed to give bad service (also my experiance).

Rio has the best facilities in my opinion and from my point of few the best looking girls. No or almost no viets there though. And the waterbed massage thing is something no other sauna has. Problem is that this place is expensive.

FM, has a realy nice showtime and a big selection of girls. Including 8. 14 viets and the price is ok.

Some alternatives:

Darling 2 : Its smaller then Darling 2. But almost all girls are viets and its only 1100 for 90 mins instead of 1600 for 60 minutes at darling 1.

18 Sauna instead of RIO. I think this sauna has the most girls. Something like 100 at peak times. Price is also same as Rio. Evenings its very crowed and sometimes its 60 girls vs. 50 men. IF your don't pick a girl fast. She is gone.

One time it was so full there were no sofas in the resting room left.

Sanado, est spa and golden sauna also have showtimes line familia noble don't imo not as good.

If you want to go real cheap there is also places for 600 HK$ for 80 minutes. But these places are usually no real saunas.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1115779]I think (hope) this is right. The Saunas are well run businesses. They know all about the increased demand for their services and the girls during CNY week. It's hard to believe they would let a high demand week go to waste. It's like all the department stores in America closing a week before Christmas. It's anti Capitalism!

QUOTE]

Well macao is booked out allmost every weekend. I had to sleep in a sauna once because I went there one time without booking a hotel. Went to like 8 hotels all booked out. The room in the sauna was ok too.

BTW don't go to saunas too early, there is only a skeleton crew until it gets dark outside.

During daytime I would recomment darling 1 or 2. Fast and easy to go in and check if they have something for your taste.

[QUOTE=Osuul; 1115796]See my post further down for some details about each place. At for the discussion about the best sauna RTFF.

Of course others might disagee but after I have been to allmost all saunas I would go like this for a newbee. But your taste might be different.

1. Darling 1.

2. Rio.

3. Famila noble.

Prices start at 1300 at FM to up to 2200 at Rio.[/QUOTE]Thank you so much for your reply. I guess this gives all I need for my visit.

I've read a few reports and it is not clear if you are allowed to come several times or only once during the massage or is it different between one Sauna and another?

I am mainly interested in routine at Rio. 18, Darling 1 & 2.

I will be there on February 19th will the girls be back from Chinese New Year holiday?

Thanks for the help.

[QUOTE=Samata61; 1116157]I've read a few reports and it is not clear if you are allowed to come several times or only once during the massage or is it different between one Sauna and another?

I am mainly interested in routine at Rio. 18, Darling 1 & 2.

I will be there on February 19th will the girls be back from Chinese New Year holiday?

Thanks for the help. [/QUOTE]RIO: if you book a soapie the manager taking you to the room will explain you what you booked, how much and that you are entitled to "one time make love", ie one pop.

This does not necessarily mean you might have two times if the girl likes you. But you can't claim for more according to what the papa-san will tell you

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1116224]RIO: if you book a soapie the manager taking you to the room will explain you what you booked, how much and that you are entitled to "one time make love", ie one pop.

This does not necessarily mean you might have two times if the girl likes you. But you can't claim for more according to what the papa-san will tell you[/QUOTE]Generaly saunas are 1 pop, darling 2 is 2 I think. And there is a cheap one near the royal hotel that is more a brothel then a sauna at 600 hk for 2 pos in 80 mins.

Anyway, you need to skip the massage part to be able to pop 2 times. Some guys reported to have come during the massage and later on the bed but you can't count on it.

Anyway, for multiple pops ask the girl to meet you after her shift, thats what I did.

I

I am sorry to pop up again with my questions but with a reference tom Osuul's reply (which is very useful and for which I am thankful) I wonder what are the typical basic "rules" in establishments like Darling 1, Rio etc? I mean is there a certain standard of what you may expect from the girl or is it up to each individual one what services they provide? For example, would they do OWO or allow rimming, getting the pussy licked etc? If so, do they charge extra for any services and what is the best way to ask? Or would they offer it by themselves? I just wonder how the whole process works because it is going to be quite expensive which means I would love to get as much as possible out of it.

[QUOTE=Der Tourist;1116704]I am sorry to pop up again with my questions but with a reference tom Osuul's reply (which is very useful and for which I am thankful) I wonder what are the typical basic "rules" in establishments like Darling 1, Rio etc? I mean is there a certain standard of what you may expect from the girl or is it up to each individual one what services they provide? For example, would they do OWO or allow rimming, getting the pussy licked etc? If so, do they charge extra for any services and what is the best way to ask? Or would they offer it by themselves? I just wonder how the whole process works because it is going to be quite expensive which means I would love to get as much as possible out of it.[/QUOTE]Pay your 20 $ to Jackson get pm function and I can give you usefull infos by pm. (even in german if you like)

[QUOTE=Der Tourist;1116704]I am sorry to pop up again with my questions but with a reference tom Osuul's reply (which is very useful and for which I am thankful) I wonder what are the typical basic "rules" in establishments like Darling 1, Rio etc? I mean is there a certain standard of what you may expect from the girl or is it up to each individual one what services they provide? For example, would they do OWO or allow rimming, getting the pussy licked etc? If so, do they charge extra for any services and what is the best way to ask? Or would they offer it by themselves? I just wonder how the whole process works because it is going to be quite expensive which means I would love to get as much as possible out of it.[/QUOTE]It depents a bit on the sauna. They will do rimming in almost all saunas I guess, specially if you ask her too (can't really tell since I like to go freestyle GFE asap and rimming is not my thing). But as far as I can remember the did in gloden sauna. 18 sauna, Big boss sauna, Familia noble)

If its a girl new to the trade she might not.

Most will let you DATY. Maybe 10- 20 % will DFK.

BBBJ (OWO) is standard.

Since I don't like the hole CIM or COF stuff, so I can't really tell. But accoring to older posts it should not be an problem.

As a general rule there is no extra charge. Either the girl does it or not.

Never tried but according to former posts anal is not on the menue.

Only chance for that is a freelancer on the street or in the bars.

A typical darling 1 hours would be:

Undress.

Massage until the bath is full.

Cleaning in the bubble bath.

Slinding all over your body with her titts and pussy.

BBBJ in the bubble bath.

Wash off and dry with a towel.

BBBJ in on the bed (most of the time fire and ice, hot warm water in her mouth during BBBJ)

Apply the condo.

Several positions sex (with or without DFK)

Usually I take charge on the bed and the girls seem to like it when they don't have to go through the routine again.

I do tickling, lissing all over her body, DATY if she allows. 69, that gets her in GFE modus, it like that much more.

[QUOTE=Osuul; 1117024]It depents a bit on the sauna. They will do rimming in almost all saunas I guess, specially if you ask her too (can't really tell since I like to go freestyle GFE asap and rimming is not my thing). But as far as I can remember the did in gloden sauna. 18 sauna, Big boss sauna, Familia noble)[/QUOTE]Thanks again for your informative explaination, Osuul. This is really helpful for a newbie. Sounds similar to Bangkok upscale massage places (I've been to Poseidon once). I guess this is pretty much all I need to know. The rest, I guess, is up to my mood and luck on the day I'll be in Macau. Thanks again for your suggestions and info.

[QUOTE=Der Tourist;1117090]Thanks again for your informative explaination, Osuul. This is really helpful for a newbie. Sounds similar to Bangkok upscale massage places (I've been to Poseidon once). I guess this is pretty much all I need to know. The rest, I guess, is up to my mood and luck on the day I'll be in Macau. Thanks again for your suggestions and info.[/QUOTE]Simply go to 18 Sauna in the evening. Go to the line up when the music start playing and tell the captain which No. You like. He will bring you to the Room, the gilr will come soon after.

Let her do the hole bath and massage thing, they are all well trained.

I usually tell the girl to hurry up or skip it in total since I have done it so many times. In the RIO the whole shower, massage, shower again takes 30 to 35 minutes. So you have less then 30 minutes on the bed and you end up in a hurry trying to come.

[QUOTE=Osuul; 1117597]Simply go to 18 Sauna in the evening. Go to the line up when the music start playing and tell the captain which No. You like. He will bring you to the Room, the gilr will come soon after.

Let her do the hole bath and massage thing, they are all well trained.

I usually tell the girl to hurry up or skip it in total since I have done it so many times. In the RIO the whole shower, massage, shower again takes 30 to 35 minutes. So you have less then 30 minutes on the bed and you end up in a hurry trying to come. [/QUOTE]Ohhh, and decline the managers offer to give you a special condome or vibrator thing. They are both extra charge and a total rip off. (I think is was 250 or so extra for both)

[QUOTE=Osuul; 1117597]Simply go to 18 Sauna in the evening. Go to the line up when the music start playing and tell the captain which No. You like. He will bring you to the Room, the gilr will come soon after.

Let her do the hole bath and massage thing, they are all well trained.

I usually tell the girl to hurry up or skip it in total since I have done it so many times. In the RIO the whole shower, massage, shower again takes 30 to 35 minutes. So you have less then 30 minutes on the bed and you end up in a hurry trying to come.[/QUOTE]Is Sauna 18 expensive? You have previously mentioned its priced about same as Rio which I would guess is around 2000MOP which sounds a little pricey. Is it worth to pay more? I mean I probably wouldn't mind to pay since it's going to be a kind of "once in a lifetime" experience in Macau but are the chances of getting a truly stunning lady there better than in some cheaper saunas? If so then I guess I wouldn't mind even if its at 2000 or so as long as it makes me feel good and happy.

[QUOTE=Der Tourist;1117841]Is Sauna 18 expensive? You have previously mentioned its priced about same as Rio which I would guess is around 2000MOP which sounds a little pricey. Is it worth to pay more? I mean I probably wouldn't mind to pay since it's going to be a kind of "once in a lifetime" experience in Macau but are the chances of getting a truly stunning lady there better than in some cheaper saunas? If so then I guess I wouldn't mind even if its at 2000 or so as long as it makes me feel good and happy.[/QUOTE]18 has the most girls in peak times, I personaly seen about 70, some report up to 100. But as you said its not worth the higher price as its always hit and miss. Out of my 4 times I have been there only 1 time was really good.

Golden sauna, Famila noble, big boss sauna have line ups of 20. 40 girls which is more then enough and you only pay 1100 to 1300 (more for models). Darling 2 has about 20 girls in a fishbowl and its only 1088 for 90 mins.

For a firstimer I would recommed RIO for the best looking girls (not for the best service though). The facilities are the best in macao and the ratio of hot girls is the highest. True eye candy.

But if you care about the price go to the cheaper ones. 50% hot girls out of 30 still makes 15 for a way lower price.

Anyway, buy a local sim card and take your phone with you. If you like a girl casualy mention that you would like to see her again in your hotel. If you were nice to her, usualy you get to be very happy the hole night for 1000 to 1500 after her shift ends.

[QUOTE=Der Tourist;1117841]Is Sauna 18 expensive? You have previously mentioned its priced about same as Rio which I would guess is around 2000MOP which sounds a little pricey. Is it worth to pay more? I mean I probably wouldn't mind to pay since it's going to be a kind of "once in a lifetime" experience in Macau but are the chances of getting a truly stunning lady there better than in some cheaper saunas? If so then I guess I wouldn't mind even if its at 2000 or so as long as it makes me feel good and happy.[/QUOTE]Me thinking, your setting yourself up for a BIG let down if your thinking that this is going to be a once in a lifetime experience. Cause it won't. Rule of thumb for most (99% for Chinese) asian girls. The hotter the girl the slimmer the chance for a wild performance. Of course the chances go up if you got game but at sauna's there is none. Rio and Sauna 18 I do have good memories. Sanado, East Spa, Darling are mixed. Darling being the worst but she was the HOTTEST girl I ever seen naked (hunan beauty 5'3, 33C (Crazy Perky + natural).22-34, perfect J-Pop Idol face, & cute voice) , cute tight butt (not flat) but she had so many rules that it made it impossible to enjoy that crazy hot body.

[QUOTE=Stinkyfeet;1117910]Me thinking, your setting yourself up for a BIG let down if your thinking that this is going to be a once in a lifetime experience. Cause it won't. Rule of thumb for most (99% for Chinese) asian girls. The hotter the girl the slimmer the chance for a wild performance. Of course the chances go up if you got game but at sauna's there is none. Rio and Sauna 18 I do have good memories. Sanado, East Spa, Darling are mixed. Darling being the worst but she was the HOTTEST girl I ever seen naked (hunan beauty 5'3, 33C (Crazy Perky + natural).22-34, perfect J-Pop Idol face, & cute voice) , cute tight butt (not flat) but she had so many rules that it made it impossible to enjoy that crazy hot body.[/QUOTE]As always hit and miss. I met the most beautifull thai girl I have ever seen in darling 2. Asked for her No. And seen her 5 times since then. I just call her whenever I am in macao and we meet before or after her shift or on her free days in my hotel.

As a rule of a thumb Stinkyfeet is right. Out of the roughly 70 girls in had sex with perfect looks and perfect service only came together a few times. Good service I had a lot of times going by the rule of chossing the playfull, active smilling girls. Thats why I like the "showtimes" at golden sauna or familia noble. There you can check out a little bit what the girls are like.

[QUOTE=Osuul;1117599]Ohhh, and decline the managers offer to give you a special condome or vibrator thing. They are both extra charge and a total rip off. (I think is was 250 or so extra for both)[/QUOTE]Not to mention the "milk massage", another useless add-on $ option! (of course I did it once!)

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1118023]Not to mention the "milk massage", another useless add-on $ option! (of course I did it once!)[/QUOTE]Really? I think it gives my skin that "shine".

[QUOTE=Stinkyfeet;1117910]Me thinking, your setting yourself up for a BIG let down if your thinking that this is going to be a once in a lifetime experience. Cause it won't. Rule of thumb for most (99% for Chinese) asian girls. The hotter the girl the slimmer the chance for a wild performance. Of course the chances go up if you got game but at sauna's there is none. Rio and Sauna 18 I do have good memories. Sanado, East Spa, Darling are mixed. Darling being the worst but she was the HOTTEST girl I ever seen naked (hunan beauty 5'3, 33C (Crazy Perky + natural).22-34, perfect J-Pop Idol face, & cute voice) , cute tight butt (not flat) but she had so many rules that it made it impossible to enjoy that crazy hot body.[/QUOTE]Oh I didn't mean once in a lifetime as the "best experience of my life", I by no means expect that. Once I was in an upscale sauna Bangkok (Poseidon) and yes it was a letdown. Only that I want to try things that must be tried at least once. I mean it in a sense that I will probably do it only once in Macau since I don't drop there too often and I don't know if I ever will again. All I expect is a very hot Chinese or Vietnamese girl (this is an absolutely crucial condition) who would do at least 2-3 things from my preferred "menu" (Dfk, rimm, DATY. 69, cof / cim, owo). If I get that, I'll consider it money well spent.

Anyway, I think it is good to assume that Rio and 18 Sauna are the best options to go for? I guess it is impossible to predict the rest and will depend on the individual girl.

[QUOTE=Der Tourist; 1118165]Oh I didn't mean once in a lifetime as the "best experience of my life", I by no means expect that. Once I was in an upscale sauna Bangkok (Poseidon) and yes it was a letdown. Only that I want to try things that must be tried at least once. I mean it in a sense that I will probably do it only once in Macau since I don't drop there too often and I don't know if I ever will again. All I expect is a very hot Chinese or Vietnamese girl (this is an absolutely crucial condition) who would do at least 2-3 things from my preferred "menu" (Dfk, rimm, DATY. 69, cof / cim, owo). If I get that, I'll consider it money well spent.

Anyway, I think it is good to assume that Rio and 18 Sauna are the best options to go for? I guess it is impossible to predict the rest and will depend on the individual girl. [/QUOTE]Why not try Darling 2 first, you don't get the sauna stuff like pool, rest room, sauna etc. But the fish bowl with the girls is 2 meters from the entrance, if you don't like them just leave. And the best thing is 90 minutes for 1088. And last time I was there is was 1499 for 2 girl 90 minutes. Since its a hit and miss there more you swing the more hits you will have.

[QUOTE=Osuul;1118433]Why not try Darling 2 first, you don't get the sauna stuff like pool, rest room, sauna etc. But the fish bowl with the girls is 2 meters from the entrance, if you don't like them just leave. And the best thing is 90 minutes for 1088. And last time I was there is was 1499 for 2 girl 90 minutes. Since its a hit and miss there more you swing the more hits you will have.[/QUOTE]Is it ok if I'd just leave without choosing a girl? It may be a little embarrassing, especially since I am a shy person and do not like "uncomfortable" situations. .

The problem is that I'll be stayin in Macau only one night which means I won't have too much time.

And I forgot to ask, what is the ideal time to go to a sauna? When is the "peak time" and is it best to go there during peak time or perhaps slightly before that? Naturally I would hope to see the largest choice of girls while not being stressed in the massive crowd of other guys who came there for exact same reason. To get the hottest girl. .

[QUOTE=Der Tourist; 1118550]Is it ok if I'd just leave without choosing a girl? It may be a little embarrassing, especially since I am a shy person and do not like "uncomfortable" situations. .

The problem is that I'll be stayin in Macau only one night which means I won't have too much time.

And I forgot to ask, what is the ideal time to go to a sauna? When is the "peak time" and is it best to go there during peak time or perhaps slightly before that? Naturally I would hope to see the largest choice of girls while not being stressed in the massive crowd of other guys who came there for exact same reason. To get the hottest girl. . [/QUOTE]Having been to Darling 2 only a couple of months ago, I believe I can help you out a bit:

1) As previously stated, the 'fishbowl' is just inside the door. The first time I popped in to check out the possibilities in the early afternoon and was suitably impressed. I told the mamasan I'd come back when I had more time, which I did, a couple of days later. So no hassles if you just want to look, but I believe you'll like what you see.

2) As for a general question about staffing levels at all saunas, some are decent during the day and even better in the late evening. If you RTFF you'll see more on this subject, but it's best to avoid weekends if you can, as well. Punters from HK descend on the place like locusts and leave 'slim pickin's' at times!

You didn't ask, but I'm going to say it anyway, Darling 2 is a damn good 'bang for the buck' IMHO, but if you only have one night in Macau, and may never get back, you owe yourself a visit to one of the premier level saunas. Among the many possibilities, I'd recommend perhaps Rio. 18, Emperor, or a bit less expensive, Famila Nobre. Expect to spend about $2, 000 HKD for top of line,"China Doll', or $15K for a smokin' Viet or Thai; CIS / Russians are there as well.

All of these places are truly 'Man Heaven', and hey, don't you deserve it?

Happy Hunting

[QUOTE=Der Tourist; 1118550]Is it ok if I'd just leave without choosing a girl? It may be a little embarrassing, especially since I am a shy person and do not like "uncomfortable" situations. .

The problem is that I'll be stayin in Macau only one night which means I won't have too much time.

And I forgot to ask, what is the ideal time to go to a sauna? When is the "peak time" and is it best to go there during peak time or perhaps slightly before that? Naturally I would hope to see the largest choice of girls while not being stressed in the massive crowd of other guys who came there for exact same reason. To get the hottest girl. . [/QUOTE]Having been to Darling 2 only a couple of months ago, I believe I can help you out a bit:

1) As previously stated, the 'fishbowl' is just inside the door. The first time I popped in to check out the possibilities in the early afternoon and was suitably impressed. I told the mamasan I'd come back when I had more time, which I did, a couple of days later. So no hassles if you just want to look, but I believe you'll like what you see.

2) As for a general question about staffing levels at all saunas, some are decent during the day and even better in the late evening. If you RTFF you'll see more on this subject, but it's best to avoid weekends if you can, as well. Punters from HK descend on the place like locusts and leave 'slim pickin's' at times!

You didn't ask, but I'm going to say it anyway, Darling 2 is a damn good 'bang for the buck' IMHO, but if you only have one night in Macau, and may never get back, you owe yourself a visit to one of the premier level saunas. Among the many possibilities, I'd recommend perhaps Rio. 18, Emperor, or a bit less expensive, Famila Nobre. Expect to spend about $2,000 HKD for top of line,"China Doll', or $1.5K for a smokin' Viet or Thai; CIS / Russians are there as well.

All of these places are truly 'Man Heaven', and hey, don't you deserve it?

Happy Hunting

[QUOTE=Der Tourist; 1118550]Is it ok if I'd just leave without choosing a girl? It may be a little embarrassing, especially since I am a shy person and do not like "uncomfortable" situations. .

. [/QUOTE]At many places in Macau you can take a look first. Just mention that upfront to the manager, who will escort you inside. At one of the places I liked most, Darling 1 (in the Jai-Alai casino near the Yaohan Dept. Store) , you can order a beer and sip whilst partaking of the wonderful scenery. I was told by an attendant a couple years back that the waitresses are also available (and there were some hotties too!). At Rio, too, you can look over the lineup before committing. Again, don't shower or use any services before you decide on a boinkin', as you will be charged. And often quite a bit.

As for the best time, the board consensus here seems to be 8 pm The power shift begins when the most punters.

[QUOTE=Wildhawk; 1118776]At many places in Macau you can take a look first. Just mention that upfront to the manager, who will escort you inside. At one of the places I liked most, Darling 1 (in the Jai-Alai casino near the Yaohan Dept. Store) , you can order a beer and sip whilst partaking of the wonderful scenery. I was told by an attendant a couple years back that the waitresses are also available (and there were some hotties too!). At Rio, too, you can look over the lineup before committing. Again, don't shower or use any services before you decide on a boinkin', as you will be charged. And often quite a bit.

As for the best time, the board consensus here seems to be 8 pm The power shift begins when the most punters. [/QUOTE]Darling 1 doesn't have waitresses anymore but anyway. Darling 1 + 2 are totaly easy if you just want to take a look but in the evening in the bigger saunas I never ever ever ever had a problem to find hot girls the problem was always to choose between 10. 15 equally hot girls.

To mention so other saunas, familia noble has a hole line up area near the front desk just ask there. When I am there I see the hole line up of 25. 35 girls walk through the whole sauna to the front for a show time. Remember you pay more for a girl for 60 minutes then in most western countries so its your right to pick only what you want.

Rio ans 18 its a bit more difficult but in the near impossible situation that you don't like the girls just leave and pay the minium charge for the sauna (200 to 400 HK) and go to another one, but believe me that can only happen in a smaller sauna at 9 in the morning.

And even 9 in the moring there were about 10 viet girls in darling 1. (I took advantage of the 300 hk discount before 2 pm).

One thing that was mentioned. The way they do the line up at 18 really pissed me off. There were so many men that I had not time to make my pick before the hot girls were gone

[QUOTE=Osuul; 1118823]Darling 1 doesn't have waitresses anymore but anyway. Darling 1 + 2 are totaly easy if you just want to take a look but in the evening in the bigger saunas I never ever ever ever had a problem to find hot girls the problem was always to choose between 10. 15 equally hot girls.

To mention so other saunas, familia noble has a hole line up area near the front desk just ask there. When I am there I see the hole line up of 25. 35 girls walk through the whole sauna to the front for a show time. Remember you pay more for a girl for 60 minutes then in most western countries so its your right to pick only what you want.

Rio ans 18 its a bit more difficult but in the near impossible situation that you don't like the girls just leave and pay the minium charge for the sauna (200 to 400 HK) and go to another one, but believe me that can only happen in a smaller sauna at 9 in the morning.

And even 9 in the moring there were about 10 viet girls in darling 1. (I took advantage of the 300 hk discount before 2 pm).

One thing that was mentioned. The way they do the line up at 18 really pissed me off. There were so many men that I had not time to make my pick before the hot girls were gone[/QUOTE]Thanks, Osuul: Sorry to hear the waitresses are gone at Darling 1 (and what's up with the overabundance of worthless male attendants. Some Macanese Full Employment of Idiots Act, perhaps?). I have dated myself with my last contribution; it's been more than a year since I've been to Macau. My recollection of the 18 rush-to-pick is spot-on with your observation. At 18 it's a quick parade and competition with the Chinese dudes who jump into the line to inspect the wares from a foot away. Do as they do and be just as agressive.

I wonder if anyone has been to Golden (I think that was the name of the place I visited three years ago) Sauna. At the time the girls spent more time lingering around the pool area, and had nice little qipao / chongsan-type dresses with a triangle cut out of the fabric to observe their special areas (to spot shaven / unshaven, I believe). Many of the girls were friendly in a fun-loving way.

With Macau saunas another thing I am wondering about is which of the saunas are best at offering gratis rooms to spa customers (I know, I know RTFF) I see some sporadic postings, but wonder if an "expert" here has a listing, and what the typical time of day the rooms open up for rest. I have noticed that Macau hotel prices have skyrocketed.

Many thanks!

[QUOTE=Wildhawk; 1118874]Thanks, Osuul: Sorry to hear the waitresses are gone at Darling 1 (and what's up with the overabundance of worthless male attendants. Some Macanese Full Employment of Idiots Act, perhaps?). I have dated myself with my last contribution; it's been more than a year since I've been to Macau. My recollection of the 18 rush-to-pick is spot-on with your observation. At 18 it's a quick parade and competition with the Chinese dudes who jump into the line to inspect the wares from a foot away. Do as they do and be just as agressive.

I wonder if anyone has been to Golden (I think that was the name of the place I visited three years ago) Sauna. At the time the girls spent more time lingering around the pool area, and had nice little qipao / chongsan-type dresses with a triangle cut out of the fabric to observe their special areas (to spot shaven / unshaven, I believe). Many of the girls were friendly in a fun-loving way.

With Macau saunas another thing I am wondering about is which of the saunas are best at offering gratis rooms to spa customers (I know, I know RTFF) I see some sporadic postings, but wonder if an "expert" here has a listing, and what the typical time of day the rooms open up for rest. I have noticed that Macau hotel prices have skyrocketed.

Many thanks! [/QUOTE]The Golden sauna is quite nice, they have a showtime were the girls take turns on the guys giving a lapdance on the guys in the resting area, so you can take a look at the girls up close after that they line up and you make the selection. After 5 or 6 pm the selelction is quite big and the prices are reasonable 1100 to 1300 HK. There are also some girls in the resting area you chat with that speak good english and go to the room after that. Also they had the best tasting food for a sauna (I like spicy food, most saunas don't have that).

For overnight stay I can confirm famila noble and boss sauna (not big boss sauna in the same street).

I slept in famila noble once in a simple 4 x 3 meter room with a TV because all hotels were booked out in macao.

In boss saunau there was a sleeping room for someting like 10 people. Other saunas will let you sleep in the resting area.

Its an option but I like to have the option to take a girl back to my hotel room if the possiblity comes up and for 600 to 800 HK$ for Hotels like RIO or Golden dragon I think its still ok. Of course in the wrong time of the year (like Chinese new year) the prices will be like 5 times that.

[QUOTE=Osuul;1118823]...familia noble has a hole line up area...[/QUOTE]I'm not making fun of your English, but that line is an accidental classic that bears underlining. This may turn out to be may new favorite phrase.

[QUOTE=Old Asia Hand;1118995]I'm not making fun of your English, but that line is an accidental classic that bears underlining. This may turn out to be may new favorite phrase.[/QUOTE]You might consider changing your user I'd of "Old Asia Hand" to something else. There is already a long time member called "OldAsiaHand" on this forum. I can see there might be some misunderstanding with user I'd in the future.

I sent a PM to "OldAsiaHand".

[QUOTE=Old Asia Hand;1118995]I'm not making fun of your English, but that line is an accidental classic that bears underlining. This may turn out to be may new favorite phrase.[/QUOTE]Well, what shall I say, its right even with the wrong spelling.

Which places are confirmed (by the establishment, not the girls) to allow 2 shots in 90 minutes? 1 shot in 1 hour seems standard.

I know Hou Va does 2 shots in 90 minutes for 620, but they're not really a sauna or spa.

[QUOTE=Applesauce; 1119328]Which places are confirmed (by the establishment, not the girls) to allow 2 shots in 90 minutes? 1 shot in 1 hour seems standard.

I know Hou Va does 2 shots in 90 minutes for 620, but they're not really a sauna or spa. [/QUOTE]Hot spot too, not sure if darling 2 does allow 2 pops but some are reporting about a a cim and one pop.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1117-Sauna-Reviews&p=1032587&highlight=hot[/url]+spot#post1032587

I'm actually at the RIO as I write this.

I came in last night, played poker at Grand Lisboa till about 2 am, then went to the RIO to do some hot steam, relax. I'm still here now and its 12 pm. You can get a more private room that is darker and quieter but it will cost you 200 MOP per hour.

I don't get girls here, but I get various services food / drink and no one seems to care.

Gentlemen I am sorry to bother you again but I just figured out that I will be in Macau on a Saturday evening / night I. E. A "bad" time to be there due to the crowds of locals. Perhaps I would manage to deal with that but what about the pricing of girls? I am going to sacrifice and pay a 2000+ HKD for a girl in Rio or 18 Sauna but are they not more expensive (say 3000) over weekends? I was shocked to find out about hotel pricing policies. It seems finding a room on Saturday is 2x more expensive than regular day. I wondered if it's not same with saunas?

[QUOTE=Der Tourist;1121984]Gentlemen I am sorry to bother you again but I just figured out that I will be in Macau on a Saturday evening / night I. E. A "bad" time to be there due to the crowds of locals. Perhaps I would manage to deal with that but what about the pricing of girls? I am going to sacrifice and pay a 2000+ HKD for a girl in Rio or 18 Sauna but are they not more expensive (say 3000) over weekends? I was shocked to find out about hotel pricing policies. It seems finding a room on Saturday is 2x more expensive than regular day. I wondered if it's not same with saunas?[/QUOTE]No worries. Sauna prices are constant throughout the weeks and days and on special occasions like Chinese new year.

Yeah. Its a monopoly of hotels. If one notices there are very less 1 to 2 star hotels compared to 4 and 5 star. Its all the control of mafia and government. Even Macau residents took into the streets how expensive accommodation has become.

If you are coming for one night only. You can spend all time in Sauna 18. Many folks from mainland do that. Good luck

[QUOTE=Starchild2012; 1122180]No worries. Sauna prices are constant throughout the weeks and days and on special occasions like Chinese new year.

Yeah. Its a monopoly of hotels. If one notices there are very less 1 to 2 star hotels compared to 4 and 5 star. Its all the control of mafia and government. Even Macau residents took into the streets how expensive accommodation has become.

If you are coming for one night only. You can spend all time in Sauna 18. Many folks from mainland do that. Good luck[/QUOTE]Thanks, Starchild.

But what do you mean by spending all time in sauna? I would assume you can just hang around there and get out in the morning? But how good is that if you cannot sleep there? My intention during the night, of course, is sleeping for no less than around 8 hours since I will be travelling for weeks and hopping from place to place with lots of sightseeing inbetween. I was also surprised that there are almost no hostels in Macau. I still somehow managed to find and book a cheap backpackers place for 110HKD a night in a dorm style room (but it's got an aircon!). To hell with all those 2000HKD+/night hotels. I'd rather splash it on the most expensive girl in Rio. If they only knew where their customers are sleeping. LOL.

[QUOTE=Der Tourist; 1122351]Thanks, Starchild.

But what do you mean by spending all time in sauna? I would assume you can just hang around there and get out in the morning? But how good is that if you cannot sleep there? My intention during the night, of course, is sleeping for no less than around 8 hours since I will be travelling for weeks and hopping from place to place with lots of sightseeing inbetween. I was also surprised that there are almost no hostels in Macau. I still somehow managed to find and book a cheap backpackers place for 110HKD a night in a dorm style room (but it's got an aircon!). To hell with all those 2000HKD+/night hotels. I'd rather splash it on the most expensive girl in Rio. If they only knew where their customers are sleeping. LOL. [/QUOTE]There are enough 200. 300 HK hotels in the inner harbour area.

Funny thing some have even one floor with a lot of girls sitting around. Guess what they are doing.

[QUOTE=Starchild2012; 1122180]No worries. Sauna prices are constant throughout the weeks and days and on special occasions like Chinese new year.

Yeah. Its a monopoly of hotels. If one notices there are very less 1 to 2 star hotels compared to 4 and 5 star. Its all the control of mafia and government. Even Macau residents took into the streets how expensive accommodation has become.

If you are coming for one night only. You can spend all time in Sauna 18. Many folks from mainland do that. Good luck[/QUOTE]Actually they are not constant. A lot of saunas have happy hours.

Something like 200 hk discount before 2 pm or additional free massage etc.

[QUOTE=Osuul;1122444]Funny thing some have even one floor with a lot of girls sitting around. Guess what they are doing.[/QUOTE]Room maids? LOL

[QUOTE=Osuul; 1122445]Actually they are not constant. A lot of saunas have happy hours.

Something like 200 hk discount before 2 pm or additional free massage etc. [/QUOTE]Sanado opposite Metropark Hotel main entrance discounts before 5pm $200 Honkies as I recall. Went there 2 weeks ago and found it no problem. Their sign is on a pillar opp. Hotel entrance. Go down a dark staircase and you are passed from handler to handler and before too long you are standing in the shower with a nice little Chinese girl cleaning her teeth with mouth wash and using your dick as a toothbrush. All the while there is an audience watching. Kinky but pleasant. Move along to the pool with coloured balls floating around for a bit of playing around with the same girl who will grind your lap and shove her tits in your face. Included in the basic price. Move on to the lounge which is surrounded by a low wall where all in sundry can look over and target the punters with all the add ons. Manicure, pedicure etc etc. Started getting friendly with one of the drink girls who was up for a bit of extra curricular activity after hours but declined due to scheduling.

Show time is announced and it was some kind of Egyptian thing with the girls in an almost non existant skirt and a scrap of see through material up top. All designed to give the best viewing experience. As previous reports have said, they move around clockwise doing cock grind first, take a step to the right, nipple suck, another step to the right, ear suck, tit feel. I had mine targeted in the previous show and she timed her moves to finish the show in my lap. Mama came to me first and asked me who I wanted and I said 138 who was already in my lap. ! 38 takes off and returns a short time latter dressed in her poolside clothes and we are off to the workshops of which there were many. Very clean and modern and, by the way 138 was a gem.

A typical Macau experience made a tad better by 138 and her personality and downright fuckability. I was the only big nose there at the time. While I was waiting for 138 to return from changing out of her show clothes, I noticed that some of the locals were bloody rude and off hand with the girls and some of the girls had a "please don't pick me " look on there faces when they paraded in front of the few who could not make up their minds.

Total cost $1088 with the early discount including a couple of orange juices and water, only so I could engage with the drinks girl. Sanado compares favourably with D1 and Eighteen IMHO although their systems are all different.

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1122621]Room maids? LOL[/QUOTE]Well, came back to the hotel drunk one day. As the elevator took too long I took the stairs one day. A few girls literaly stopped me in the first floor and offered 30 mins for 500. Making up the room was not on the menue though.

Later read here on the board that 200 was the usual price for inner harbor. But please don't blame me for messing up the market. I was drunk and horny.

I visited Macau for the first time of my life on the first Saturday during the CNY 2011. I arrived from HK with a ferry in the afternoon and after a short sightseeing headed for saunas.

1. Rio.

Rio had nice facilities and relaxed ambience. The shows in the early evening were OK, not so many girls though. The quality of the lineup was good but not great. I chose a young Chinese girl, she looked better with the clothes on. Anyway I had nice sex with this lady but nothing extraordinary.

2. 18 sauna.

After Rio I headed to 18 sauna just to check the place up while I was in Macau. Well this sauna was definately more busy than Rio and had a great lineup of girls. So many to choose from. I ended up picking a young viet girl and to my suprise she had fantastic natural D cup breasts and her attitude was nice as well. This was one of those once in a lifetime experiences with the body massage etc. I was happy with my choise and this was definately good way to end the Macau sauna evening.

Allthough the saunas were great the pick up system is something which I disliked a bit. You have to make very quick desicions and the atmosphere is very unrelaxed. Luckily there are showtimes often so one must not wait for long. I prefer the FKK clubs in Germany where the girls are among the guests and where you can talk with the ladies before making your pick. The system works better for me. But Macau saunas were anyway nice experience to have, at least once in a lifetime, if you are travelling to Hong Kong. And seemed to me the lineup was really good even during the Chinese New Year.

[QUOTE=Keppana; 1124016]I visited Macau for the first time of my life on the first Saturday during the CNY 2011. I arrived from HK with a ferry in the afternoon and after a short sightseeing headed for saunas.

1. Rio.

Rio had nice facilities and relaxed ambience. The shows in the early evening were OK, not so many girls though. The quality of the lineup was good but not great. I chose a young Chinese girl, she looked better with the clothes on. Anyway I had nice sex with this lady but nothing extraordinary.

2. 18 sauna.

After Rio I headed to 18 sauna just to check the place up while I was in Macau. Well this sauna was definately more busy than Rio and had a great lineup of girls. So many to choose from. I ended up picking a young viet girl and to my suprise she had fantastic natural D cup breasts and her attitude was nice as well. This was one of those once in a lifetime experiences with the body massage etc. I was happy with my choise and this was definately good way to end the Macau sauna evening.

Allthough the saunas were great the pick up system is something which I disliked a bit. You have to make very quick desicions and the atmosphere is very unrelaxed. Luckily there are showtimes often so one must not wait for long. I prefer the FKK clubs in Germany where the girls are among the guests and where you can talk with the ladies before making your pick. The system works better for me. But Macau saunas were anyway nice experience to have, at least once in a lifetime, if you are travelling to Hong Kong. And seemed to me the lineup was really good even during the Chinese New Year. [/QUOTE]Yes, you have to pick fast and especially at the busy saunas like 18, if you snooze, you lose. Nothing worse than to watch the hot girl you had your eye on walk out for another dude. I have been to the FKK clubs in Germany too and I know what you mean, you can take your time and look at whats available before making your choice. The downside is many FKK girls are aggressive too and will pester you to take them to a room. Next time you're in Macau try East Spa in Waldo hotel. The girls there hang out freely in the pool area so if you chill there you can check out the talent with no pressure to pick.

[QUOTE=Darkelf999;1124192]Yes, you have to pick fast and especially at the busy saunas like 18, if you snooze, you lose. Nothing worse than to watch the hot girl you had your eye on walk out for another dude. I have been to the FKK clubs in Germany too and I know what you mean, you can take your time and look at whats available before making your choice. The downside is many FKK girls are aggressive too and will pester you to take them to a room. Next time you're in Macau try East Spa in Waldo hotel. The girls there hang out freely in the pool area so if you chill there you can check out the talent with no pressure to pick.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip! You are right Darkel about the girls in FKK clubs, some of them are aggressive. But the thing I like is that you are able to look at their bodies and find the types that you like. And most of the girls are topless so you can see the breasts. With the bra / bikini top there is always the mystery what comes out when the top is removed.

At 18 sauna there were few girls hanging around in the waiting area but not many. The East Spa sounds better for my likings. Unfortunately I am not travelling to Asia regularly, only for vacations so it may take a long time before I go to Macau next time. Well meanwhile I just have to enjoy the beautiful caucasian ladies at FKK clubs in Germany, much easier and cheaper for me to travel from Scandinavia. Luckily they have a vast variaty of girls and even some asians there. Anyway I had good experience in 18 sauna and was worth visiting Macau.

Keppana

[QUOTE=Keppana; 1124536]Thanks for the tip! You are right Darkel about the girls in FKK clubs, some of them are aggressive. But the thing I like is that you are able to look at their bodies and find the types that you like. And most of the girls are topless so you can see the breasts. With the bra / bikini top there is always the mystery what comes out when the top is removed.

At 18 sauna there were few girls hanging around in the waiting area but not many. The East Spa sounds better for my likings. Unfortunately I am not travelling to Asia regularly, only for vacations so it may take a long time before I go to Macau next time. Well meanwhile I just have to enjoy the beautiful caucasian ladies at FKK clubs in Germany, much easier and cheaper for me to travel from Scandinavia. Luckily they have a vast variaty of girls and even some asians there. Anyway I had good experience in 18 sauna and was worth visiting Macau.

Keppana[/QUOTE]If you don't like the aggressivness go to clubs like the samya in colonge. They have a no amimation policy.

No girl will approach you there, you have to approch the girl.

[QUOTE=Keppana; 1124016]I visited Macau for the first time of my life on the first Saturday during the CNY 2011. I arrived from HK with a ferry in the afternoon and after a short sightseeing headed for saunas.

1. Rio.

Rio had nice facilities and relaxed ambience. The shows in the early evening were OK, not so many girls though. The quality of the lineup was good but not great. I chose a young Chinese girl, she looked better with the clothes on. Anyway I had nice sex with this lady but nothing extraordinary.

2. 18 sauna.

After Rio I headed to 18 sauna just to check the place up while I was in Macau. Well this sauna was definately more busy than Rio and had a great lineup of girls. So many to choose from. I ended up picking a young viet girl and to my suprise she had fantastic natural D cup breasts and her attitude was nice as well. This was one of those once in a lifetime experiences with the body massage etc. I was happy with my choise and this was definately good way to end the Macau sauna evening.

Allthough the saunas were great the pick up system is something which I disliked a bit. You have to make very quick desicions and the atmosphere is very unrelaxed. Luckily there are showtimes often so one must not wait for long. I prefer the FKK clubs in Germany where the girls are among the guests and where you can talk with the ladies before making your pick. The system works better for me. But Macau saunas were anyway nice experience to have, at least once in a lifetime, if you are travelling to Hong Kong. And seemed to me the lineup was really good even during the Chinese New Year. [/QUOTE]Rio and 18 are really bad in terms of choosing. All other saunas you simply ask for a line up whenever you want to.

All the girls (the available ones) will line up just for you and you can take all the time you need.

I completely forgot to ask one crucial thing. I haven't got it 100% clear reading the reports. Are the line-up girls in Rio wearing bikinis or are they more covered in some other type of clothing? From my personal experience in Bangkok and elsewhere I have realized that it may be extremely hard to judge the body proportions if you can't actually see it. No matter how amazing and hot she may look like but if there is anything more than a bikini (e. G. Some kind of shirt etc.) it may mess the whole thing up once you realize her body was not exactly what you were expecting. As far as I understand in 18 Sauna they dress in bikinis but what about Rio?

[QUOTE=Osuul]If you don't like the aggressivness go to clubs like the samya in colonge. They have a no amimation policy.

No girl will approach you there, you have to approch the girl. [/QUOTE]I think I gave wrong impression in my text. I don't mind the agressive girls at all. I like many of the FKK clubs in Germany; The Palace, Oase, Golden Time, Villa Vertigo, Artemis. So many nice girls!

-K

[QUOTE=Der Tourist;1124799]I completely forgot to ask one crucial thing. I haven't got it 100% clear reading the reports. Are the line-up girls in Rio wearing bikinis or are they more covered in some other type of clothing? From my personal experience in Bangkok and elsewhere I have realized that it may be extremely hard to judge the body proportions if you can't actually see it. No matter how amazing and hot she may look like but if there is anything more than a bikini (e. G. Some kind of shirt etc.) it may mess the whole thing up once you realize her body was not exactly what you were expecting. As far as I understand in 18 Sauna they dress in bikinis but what about Rio?[/QUOTE]It goes from fully clothed korean traditional dress to bra only. Mostly bra and a g string, sometimes a seethrough top.

If you want to be 100% sure what you get go to saunas with showtimes were you can feel up the girls before you choose.

Anyway, I never found a girl in Rio that were not at least a 7. Service is another story.

[QUOTE=Osuul]Rio and 18 are really bad in terms of choosing. All other saunas you simply ask for a line up whenever you want to.

All the girls (the available ones) will line up just for you and you can take all the time you need.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your advice Osuul! It seems that I selected the 2 saunas which have the worst "pick up" policy in Macau. Just typical fist time mistake, LOL. Well next time I will definately go to other saunas in Macau. Anyway my experiences in Rio and 18 were nice, especially the viet girl in 18 sauna with big firm natural boobs was fantastic. The memory of this episode will last for thousand years.

K

[QUOTE=Keppana; 1124959]Thanks for your advice Osuul! It seems that I selected the 2 saunas which have the worst "pick up" policy in Macau. Just typical fist time mistake, LOL. Well next time I will definately go to other saunas in Macau. Anyway my experiences in Rio and 18 were nice, especially the viet girl in 18 sauna with big firm natural boobs was fantastic. The memory of this episode will last for thousand years.

K[/QUOTE]Over time you will find diff saunas in Macau have diff purposes. If you want to get in and pick a girl immediately at the time you want, then Rio and 18 are not the place to go. I find those two are more suitable for leisurely visits, you hang out in the lounge with your friends and when the time for a show comes, you go and see if there's anyone you like. If not then back to lounge for next round. If I'm in a hurry or don't have the patience to sit around waiting for a show, I never go to Rio and 18. Bear in mind 18 has possibly the best and largest lineup in Macau, and Rio has some of the best facilities.

I have business in Mainland China and since I am in SE Asia, I decided to free up some time for mongering.

The decision of where to go was a very tough and after through thinking I decided to keep all of my options open so I flew through BKK to Macau where I am now and will go to Mainland China tomorrow.

I only set up 1 day for mongering at the beginning of the trip and 3 days at the end and stopped by Macau first so I can go to BKK at the end of the trip if I don't like the action in Macau. I know Macau is more expensive but everyone was raging about all the pretty girls at the various Saunas.

After reading all the reviews I decided to book at the Rio hotel and check our Rio Sauna since it appears to be the best one along with Sauna 18. The weather was cold and rainy so I decided not to wonder outside the hotel.

Arrived to Rio after a long flight and connection in BKK at 3:00pm had a quick lunch and tries to catch some sleep but could not because the room was too cold and they only had AC and after struggling with the English of various personnel, finally they brought me a portable heater so I relax for a couple of hours and headed down to the Sauna around 7:30 PM where I was the only non-Asian.

I was greeted by a tiny Vietnamese girl who offered to give a massage by the poolside shower and I accepted. She was very cute, spoke some English and was interested to learn more. Playful and fun.

Next I was directed to a very nice Sauna room where the services were explained to me by Indonesian girl; nice but ugly. I sat down then a massage girl caught my eye and I asked her to give me a thigh massage in a private room off course and you all know how that goes. She was pretty, tall. 28 years old with a great body. She gets off at 9:30 and she casually mentioned that she is free afterword but I declined since it was already 8:45 and I have not yet seen the line up but I took her number and told her I will call her on my way back if I decide to stay in Macau.

Went upstairs to see the line up and a girl danced by the pole and she was gorgeous and I should have picked her since she was a perfect 10. The line had about 40 girls mainly Chinese supper models and 5 Russians. 2 of the Chinese super models smiled widely at me and I ended up selecting one of them (don't remember the number). Went to the room and waited for her for a couple of minutes where she came and undresses; she was truly beautiful with good attitude but could only speak a couple of English words. The session was mechanical and she would not allow me to kiss her at all and when we moved to the bed I tried to take over but she would not let me and insisted to go through her routine of BBBJ and then fucking; After she finished the BBBJ I tried again to take over but no way; she went through the routine and we fucked in various positions till I came then she allowed me to DATY which was not fun anymore because there was about 5 minutes left and there is no way I am having another session with her. Looks 9, Attitude 7, Service 4, English 0. 5.

Went back to the Sauna, slept for about ½ an hour, eat, and had a couple of beers but could not stop thinking of the other girl (number 866) who kept on smiling and since the weather is bad, I decided not to go to Sauna 18 and stick with Rio so I asked the Indonesian girl to see if 866 is available and she was. I took a great and expensive risk but before writing a bad review, I had to be sure that the problem is the Sauna and not just one girl.

Went back to the room hoping to satisfy my need. The girl came once again very pretty; her teeth were not as perfect as the first one but had slightly bigger boobs. This one could not speak or understand a word of English so communication was non-existence; she appeared nice if I could have been able to communicate with her. Again the same mechanical routine; 866 allowed me to take over once we got to the bed but will not in any way allow me to DATY so I gave up and she gave me this hot / cold BBBJ with excessive spitting while I was playing with her pussy and she got very wet. She proceeded to place a condom and to my surprise, she lubricated her self extensively despite being very wet. We fucked in various positions and she kept on 'nicely' complaining that I am hurting her despite the fact that I am not big. I finally came and put an end to her misery, laid in bed for a couple of minutes hugging but again no kissing, showered and left. Looks 8, attitude 7, service 3, English. 1.

The whole experience was lack luster at best and the lack of English by both girls killed any chance I could have to improve it. Total Damage was 4, 663 MOP (US $600) which I could have had 2 girls together anywhere in the world and had the time of my life.

I got dressed and despite being super tired from the trip and 3 hours of sleep I decided to complete my Rio review and check the disco. I was stopped at the entrance by a fat lady explaining to me that it was not a real Disco but rather KTV where I can pick up a girl and take her back to my room since I am staying at the hotel. I inquired about the price 'out of curiosity' and she told me 3, 000 MOP but I can talk to the manager. I declined and went back to the room to write this report and go to sleep.

I don't think I will repeat Macau unless I want to try a Vietnamese girl probably from Darling 2 since both Vietnamese girls I talked to at Rio where supper nice and their English was acceptable. Well my Dog's English was better than these 2 Chinese Supper Models.

I think I will just change my return flight and do the connection in Macau airport and head directly to BKK.

I will keep you posted.

[QUOTE=Samata61; 1125149]I don't think I will repeat Macau unless I want to try a Vietnamese girl probably from Darling 2 since both Vietnamese girls I talked to at Rio where supper nice and their English was acceptable. Well my Dog's English was better than these 2 Chinese Supper Models.

I think I will just change my return flight and do the connection in Macau airport and head directly to BKK.

I will keep you posted.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your review, Samata. This really helps me to build up the picture of Rio before my visit. I am having various thoughts on that. One thing I am really afraid (which is indicated by your report) is that there may be no DFK on the menu. BBBJ sounds good and I would not expect a GFE anyway but kissing is something that would really make the experience more complete and exciting (as so would DATY). Did you choose a girl in the "model" (slightly more expensive) category? Maybe that was the reason?

[QUOTE=Der Tourist;1125156]Thank you for your review, Samata. This really helps me to build up the picture of Rio before my visit. I am having various thoughts on that. One thing I am really afraid (which is indicated by your report) is that there may be no DFK on the menu. BBBJ sounds good and I would not expect a GFE anyway but kissing is something that would really make the experience more complete and exciting (as so would DATY). Did you choose a girl in the "model" (slightly more expensive) category? Maybe that was the reason?[/QUOTE]Well the line up consisted of about 40 girls. 33 were the supper model category. 2 with black and red swim wear but you could not pick them as they were very short and appeared ugly next to the rest, and 5 Russians.

I suspect Rio is concentrating more on the supper model category or maybe because it was a Saturday night.

When I asked which of the girls spoke better English, the answer was the Russians. I can get Russians when I am in Europe and was in the mood for Asian pussies.

Remember not just no DFK but no kissing at all.

[QUOTE=Darkelf999]Over time you will find diff saunas in Macau have diff purposes. If you want to get in and pick a girl immediately at the time you want, then Rio and 18 are not the place to go. I find those two are more suitable for leisurely visits, you hang out in the lounge with your friends and when the time for a show comes, you go and see if there's anyone you like. If not then back to lounge for next round. If I'm in a hurry or don't have the patience to sit around waiting for a show, I never go to Rio and 18. Bear in mind 18 has possibly the best and largest lineup in Macau, and Rio has some of the best facilities.[/QUOTE]Yes, the lineup in 18 was definately excellent. There were many nice girls to choose from. Next time I will go to some other saunas but will also visit 18 again with more time. And it is easier now when you know how the system works in 18.

Rio had very nice facilities but still I preferred 18 to Rio. But this is just my opinion. Everyone has different tastes and that is good.

-K

[QUOTE=Keppana; 1125231]Yes, the lineup in 18 was definately excellent. There were many nice girls to choose from. Next time I will go to some other saunas but will also visit 18 again with more time. And it is easier now when you know how the system works in 18.

Rio had very nice facilities but still I preferred 18 to Rio. But this is just my opinion. Everyone has different tastes and that is good.

K[/QUOTE]From the reviews I would assume that 18 is pretty much the same as Rio when it comes to girls. But is the service level the same? I. E. Few chances of DFK and GFE? Or is 18 Sauna better in this area? I am about to stay in the hotel where Sauna 18 is but my intention was to go to Rio. Now I'm starting to wonder maybe it's better try 18 instead (unfortunately I am limited to only one visit to one sauna as I won't have time and cash for more).

[QUOTE=Der Tourist;1125156]Thank you for your review, Samata. This really helps me to build up the picture of Rio before my visit. I am having various thoughts on that. One thing I am really afraid (which is indicated by your report) is that there may be no DFK on the menu. BBBJ sounds good and I would not expect a GFE anyway but kissing is something that would really make the experience more complete and exciting (as so would DATY). Did you choose a girl in the "model" (slightly more expensive) category? Maybe that was the reason?[/QUOTE]This is the exact reason I don't go to the RIO and 18 anymore. First time I was in Macao I went through the same process as Der Tourist. At the beginning its ok but the girls how the reputation of the 2 sauna and thats propably why they think they don't need to give good service since the customers will come anyway.

The girls at other saunas are much more friendly and GFE. DATY, DFK. 69 etc. Was on the menue about 80 percent of the time. Now adays for me RIO and 18 seem to me like a tourist trap (no offence to Der Tourist ). In 5 visits to RIO and 3 to 18 I had only 1 good time. At about 13 times familia noble I had one bad and that is at little more then half the price.

And in my experiance not taking the offer from a girl to have her come to your hotel room is a big mistake.

I had the best nights in macau with girls in my own hotel room. It will be multiple popps. You will only pay about 1000 and girl will be happy cause she gets to keep all the money.

[QUOTE=Der Tourist;1125156]Thank you for your review, Samata. This really helps me to build up the picture of Rio before my visit. I am having various thoughts on that. One thing I am really afraid (which is indicated by your report) is that there may be no DFK on the menu. BBBJ sounds good and I would not expect a GFE anyway but kissing is something that would really make the experience more complete and exciting (as so would DATY). Did you choose a girl in the "model" (slightly more expensive) category? Maybe that was the reason?[/QUOTE]BTW as most forum members might agree.

Model usualy equals bad service.

Only 2 times I had a girl were looks and service was a 10. Truely amazing but not worth sending the money when the hit ratio with 6. 8 in looks that will deliver a 10 service is much higher.

[QUOTE=Keppana; 1124959]Thanks for your advice Osuul! It seems that I selected the 2 saunas which have the worst "pick up" policy in Macau. Just typical fist time mistake, LOL. Well next time I will definately go to other saunas in Macau. Anyway my experiences in Rio and 18 were nice, especially the viet girl in 18 sauna with big firm natural boobs was fantastic. The memory of this episode will last for thousand years.

K[/QUOTE]I friendly disagree on Rio. The line up is substantial and the choice is wide. True that the stunners might go first.

We also know that stunner does not mean 'top service'

According to my opinion at Rio there is sufficient time to select.

The impression not to have sufficient time is due to the amount of girls (never seen less than 40/50 in my visits) and obviously it takes a degree of time.

On the other hand one cannot expect 10 or 50 girls stays in the room for selection for too long.

The trick is to first detect the best targets when they walk in and parade in front of you to take positions along the walls (then they rotate 2-3 times) and then attentively "scan" the chosen target and try to get the chemistry.

This is the key point.

Not easy if the girls are 10 or 50.

And do not forget to remove from your sight those you are not interested, not to get distracted.

Sometime it is even better to play the roulette: order a girl to the manager and. See what they bring to the room.

The chances of good chemistry / srvice or not are pretty much similar to the choice from the parade.

In terms of beauties, at least at Rio, the average is quite high so no disappointment will come. Other than, e. G, big tits, vs small ones, or long legged vs short.

This can be easily sorted with a wish list mentioned to the manager when you request the girl.

[QUOTE=Osuul; 1125439]This is the exact reason I don't go to the RIO and 18 anymore. First time I was in Macao I went through the same process as Der Tourist. At the beginning its ok but the girls how the reputation of the 2 sauna and thats propably why they think they don't need to give good service since the customers will come anyway.

The girls at other saunas are much more friendly and GFE. DATY, DFK. 69 etc. Was on the menue about 80 percent of the time. Now adays for me RIO and 18 seem to me like a tourist trap (no offence to Der Tourist ). In 5 visits to RIO and 3 to 18 I had only 1 good time. At about 13 times familia noble I had one bad and that is at little more then half the price.

And in my experiance not taking the offer from a girl to have her come to your hotel room is a big mistake.

I had the best nights in macau with girls in my own hotel room. It will be multiple popps. You will only pay about 1000 and girl will be happy cause she gets to keep all the money. [/QUOTE]Oh why should I be offended. LOL. This is business and those girls are right to do so because they are right about the tourists and "they will come anyway" thingie. This is how it works and this is what you and me would do as well if we were in the place of those girls. We can't expect to have 10/10 in all areas. Although I guess this could be achieved, but perhaps then we'd pay not 2000 but something like 3000. And I'm sure there would be no shortage of demand. For everything there is a price to pay and in this case it's not just the 2000HKD but also something you do NOT get for it. Anyway since I have no choice and spend only one night in Macau I think it would be wrong not to do 18 Sauna or Rio. It's just a matter of principle and if I will ever come back (which I probably will) it would be time for other places and more experiments. Anyway, thanks for your suggestions and recommendations. If not people like you on this forum I would have absolutely zero clue about Macau sauna scene which I'm eagerly waiting to try out.

[QUOTE=Samata61; 1125149]I have business in Mainland China and since I am in SE Asia, I decided to free up some time for mongering.

I will keep you posted. [/QUOTE]I read with interest your report, as myself I widely and preferably use Rio's Sauna when I go to Macau once a year.

Have to agree: communication with girls is nearly non existant due to the language barrier.

Did not have this issue when I picked up a Russian and a nigerian (seprately)

But obviously one goes to Macau to pick up asians.

Agree that the routine kills a bit the mood and then it is all a lot up to the mongerer expectations, wishes etc.

As often said here: do not go for the absolute stunners (as anyhow it is not for showing them to your parents and friends!).

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1125451]I read with interest your report, as myself I widely and preferably use Rio's Sauna when I go to Macau once a year.

Have to agree: communication with girls is nearly non existant due to the language barrier.

Did not have this issue when I picked up a Russian and a nigerian (seprately)

But obviously one goes to Macau to pick up asians.

Agree that the routine kills a bit the mood and then it is all a lot up to the mongerer expectations, wishes etc.

As often said here: do not go for the absolute stunners (as anyhow it is not for showing them to your parents and friends!). [/QUOTE]I don't think the problem was with picking the absolute stunners; most of these girls were 7++ anyway and I concentrated on picking the girls who smiled at me and seemed interested. I actually regret not picking the perfect 10 stunner who was dancing since she was available; at least I would have the hottest body / face to look at and play with since her service could not have been much worse than the other 2 girls.

Communication plays a big roll in breaking the ice so the girl does not feel like an object fucking the next asshole; I truly believe that lack of it is what did me in since the attitude of both girls was acceptable.

[QUOTE=Samata61; 1125494]I don't think the problem was with picking the absolute stunners; most of these girls were 7++ anyway and I concentrated on picking the girls who smiled at me and seemed interested. I actually regret not picking the perfect 10 stunner who was dancing since she was available; at least I would have the hottest body / face to look at and play with since her service could not have been much worse than the other 2 girls.

Communication plays a big roll in breaking the ice so the girl does not feel like an object fucking the next asshole; I truly believe that lack of it is what did me in since the attitude of both girls was acceptable. [/QUOTE]Don't forget also that the girls who are the hottest and most beautiful, are also the busiest. So, I think time of day also matters for the girl's attitude. If its near the end of her day and she's had no rest all day and been pounded constantly for the last 10 hours, its hard to expect the girl's attitude to be top notch. The girls who don't get picked as much tend to be more enthusiastic and have more energy, this makes sense. Having been to almost all the large saunas in Macau I really think attitude is hit or miss. Your best bet is just pick the hottest girl and treat her nicely and respectfully. Sometimes she will still disappoint but thats just how the game works.

[QUOTE=Samata61;1125494]Communication plays a big roll in breaking the ice so the girl does not feel like an object fucking the next asshole; I truly believe that lack of it is what did me in since the attitude of both girls was acceptable.[/QUOTE]There is probably a great deal of truth in this statement. May I suggest next time that one ask a sauna manager to point out any girls in the line-up who speak English, preferably before the 'show' begins? On my recent trip to 'Man-Heaven' at the Rio, I got lucky. When requesting a Mongolian be identified for me, I accidentally stumbled on a statuesque, doe-eyed creature who just happened to speak excellent English as well. She also suggested she would be very interested in seeing me (and no doubt at least 1, 000 of my 'honkers') later, outside the sauna, and gave me her number. Much to my regret, time did not permit. I received the same earnest request for 'outside activities' and phone numbers (all in English) from at least two of the Vietnamese massage girls as there as well. Talk about stroking one's ego!

But my Mongolian Beauty's ability to speak the language of the 'Big Nose' was a decided plus, I must admit, adding a great deal to the experience.

[QUOTE=Rippa;1125599]There is probably a great deal of truth in this statement. May I suggest next time that one ask a sauna manager to point out any girls in the line-up who speak English, preferably before the 'show' begins?.[/QUOTE]I did exactly what you've recommended and the answer I received was only the Russians spoke English. My luck.

I completely agree regarding the Vietnamese as they were the most friendly and a cute masseuse offered to see me when she got off at 9:30 but that was too early since I had not yet seen the line up.

Talking about luck, I am now in Quanzhou, China conducting my business and to my surprise the mongering action is pretty good. Can anyone tell me where can I post my report for this area?

[QUOTE=Der Tourist;1125447]Oh why should I be offended. LOL. This is business and those girls are right to do so because they are right about the tourists and "they will come anyway" thingie. This is how it works and this is what you and me would do as well if we were in the place of those girls. We can't expect to have 10/10 in all areas. Although I guess this could be achieved, but perhaps then we'd pay not 2000 but something like 3000. And I'm sure there would be no shortage of demand. For everything there is a price to pay and in this case it's not just the 2000HKD but also something you do NOT get for it. Anyway since I have no choice and spend only one night in Macau I think it would be wrong not to do 18 Sauna or Rio. It's just a matter of principle and if I will ever come back (which I probably will) it would be time for other places and more experiments. Anyway, thanks for your suggestions and recommendations. If not people like you on this forum I would have absolutely zero clue about Macau sauna scene which I'm eagerly waiting to try out.[/QUOTE]For a first time I would recommend Darling 1 and after that Rio for the rest of the night. As Rio and 18 are quite similar, darling with the bubble bath treatment is a little different. Also Darling is quick. Two saunas take to much time if you want to use the facilities. If you only go in to get a girl then you can go to Darling right away.

[QUOTE=Bionicman]I friendly disagree on Rio. The line up is substantial and the choice is wide. True that the stunners might go first.

We also know that stunner does not mean 'top service'

According to my opinion at Rio there is sufficient time to select.[/QUOTE]Good comments Bionicman! I think my problem was that when you are used to the saunas in Germany and in Brazil the Macau pick up style is a bit different and makes you a bit confused cause the time is limited in the show room. That's what happened to me in Rio, I did not have patience to wait until next show and picked up quickly. But the result was quite good anyway so happy ending. In 18 I had luck with the viet girl with big naturals (I like big naturals) and I was more than happy. Of course one always thinks afterwards what if I would have taken the next girl in the line. But this is the "what if" thought that comes to my mind quite often after visiting the saunas. One should always think "love the one you are with!"

In my eyes lineup was much bigger and better at 18 on that Saturday when I was in Macau. But this is not by any means more than just one night observation.

It it the same rule all over the world, stunners do not equal top service. It is up to us customers what we want, visually stunning girl or a nice one that smiles and laughs. Sometimes they come in one package and then we have a winner!

Next time when I will wisit Macau I know much more and will also spend more time than just one night in the saunas. And I will try to get a girl for overnight stay because that is more my thing rather than just a fuck in the saunas. Anyway I wish I would have more opportunities to visit Macau but no can do. I have to go to saunas in Germany which fortunately offer also fine pieces of caucasian babes.

Keppana

[QUOTE=Der Tourist]From the reviews I would assume that 18 is pretty much the same as Rio when it comes to girls. But is the service level the same? I. E. Few chances of DFK and GFE? Or is 18 Sauna better in this area? I am about to stay in the hotel where Sauna 18 is but my intention was to go to Rio. Now I'm starting to wonder maybe it's better try 18 instead (unfortunately I am limited to only one visit to one sauna as I won't have time and cash for more).[/QUOTE]The service is always depending on the girl. I am sure both Rio and 18 have girls that give good service and girls that are cold. I got a bit better vibes from 18 and the viet girl was nice. But remember to be nice to the girl so you have the best chances to get good service.

I never look for GFE in any saunas anywhere in the world because the ladies are there for the money only. I cannot imagine them as girlfriends. Of course the nicer the personality the more fun is the session. Don't think too much and you will have a lot of fun. Go to 18!

K

[QUOTE=Keppana; 1125807]The service is always depending on the girl. I am sure both Rio and 18 have girls that give good service and girls that are cold. I got a bit better vibes from 18 and the viet girl was nice. But remember to be nice to the girl so you have the best chances to get good service.

I never look for GFE in any saunas anywhere in the world because the ladies are there for the money only. I cannot imagine them as girlfriends. Of course the nicer the personality the more fun is the session. Don't think too much and you will have a lot of fun. Go to 18!

K[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice mate. I always treat girls nice and gentle so I guess there won't be problem with that. However regarding GFE I have had a very good record with go-go bar girls in Thailand. Only few out of 20 or so were completely non-GFE while most were either instantly or slightly later turning to GFE. I was also wondering if age and appearance makes any difference? I am in my late-mid 20's and certainly not bad looking. I wonder if this improves the chance of getting better service? .

[QUOTE=Der Tourist;1126262]Thanks for the advice mate. I always treat girls nice and gentle so I guess there won't be problem with that. However regarding GFE I have had a very good record with go-go bar girls in Thailand. Only few out of 20 or so were completely non-GFE while most were either instantly or slightly later turning to GFE. I was also wondering if age and appearance makes any difference? I am in my late-mid 20's and certainly not bad looking. I wonder if this improves the chance of getting better service? .[/QUOTE]Absolutely it makes a difference. These girls are used to being pounded by rude, smelly fat men most of the time. And most customers from China are quite rude to them and don't treat them like human beings. I find being young, attractive (or at least decent to normal looking) , polite and respectful to the girls go a long way. I've turned even the most hardcore ice queens into purring kittens this way.

IMHO I would stick to one place each night. (reduces also some overhead minimum charges)

- there is a sufficient wide variety of girls for every service.

- there is a sufficient variety of services available at different prices.

- staying in the same venue helps you in familairzing with the environment, the system the girls (be them also only the indonesian waitresses)

One can look at a parade, not chos, go back to his lounge armchair, and check on another round of parade.

- one can relax with minor services (so after you have dome the foo massage, they wil not bother you much anymore.

- can kill time with some food.

- in saunas there is not only the top service of the soap massage with th eexpensive model: you have lots of other services, kinky and not kinky, you can have an 90' shangai massage that ends with a HJ

And so on so on.

Take it as a Disneyland visit.

You enter the park and enjoy all attractions, sometime you repeat the attractions, there is no need to get out, queu again to another palce and pay another ticket to see the dolphin show: keep it for the day after.

Macau saunas are definetely not for the two hours visit.

This is more the Chinese type of saunas.

It is like KTV. One doesn't go to a KTV to select a girl and take her out after one song.

Enjoy the evening and take her back home at the end.

My 2 cents!

Finished my business in mainland China and despite not having a great time at Rio a few days ago, I decided to spend 1 more day in Macau basically to have some Vietnamese pussies.

I had decided to spend the early evening at Darling 1 and then go to Sauna 18 for the rest of the evening.

I booked at the 'Golden Dragon Hotel' since it is very close to Darling 1 and Sauna 18 is in it. Big mistake; I requested a non smoking room with a king size bed but all king size bed rooms were in the smoking section and I really did not want a single bed. Arrived to the room and the safe did not work and they did not have Internet cable or electrical plug; it took ½ an hour to fix the problems. Lunch buffet was terrible but I did not have enough time to go anywhere else but the Japanese restaurant was good. Cost was 800 HKD including all taxes, which is the same as Rio, but Rio is a much better hotel.

I had lunch, slept a little then headed to D1 arriving at 6pm. They had 10 Thai girls. 20 Chinese. 4 China dolls. 5 Russians, and only 2 Vietnamese. They still offer drinks so I ordered a Vodka and sat down looking at the girls and it was quite a sight most of them were7+ with few 9++. It was Tuesday night so they were not busy and I was not pushed or hurried but on the contrary, the Indonesian masmasan who spoke good English encouraged me to take my time while explaining the prices 1518 for 75 minutes or 1888 for China doll. Since I had my sight on Vietnamese, I picked one of the 2 girls who had a million dollar smile, spoke some English, short but very cute with large breasts (Number 300).

I did not want to repeat the experience of Rio so I immediately put 200 MOP on the table and explained that it will be her tip if I am satisfied. She was very shy. 20 years old, and has been there for 1 month or 1 year (I could not understand). She politely refused to kiss, started with a massage, then to the bathtub where she got me really aroused and I came between her large natural tits (large but sagging). We moved to the bed where I took over by kissing her body all over then proceeded to DATY, again she started slowly but in about 10 minutes she got really wet and it was clear from her face expression and she was not faking it and really enjoying herself as much as I was. I've gotten really hard again so I proceeded to fuck her missionary style while allowing her to play with herself till she came while we were DFK. We fucked in all positions till I came then laid in each others arms kissing and fondling for about 5 minutes then back to the bathtub for the final cleaning routine.

I was on Claude 9 and extremely warm so I ordered another Vodka and sat in the saloon watching the girls again while chatting with Indonesian mamasan. Now the Vietnamese were 5 and a new one caught my eyes (Number 301) she was cutter that 300 and appears very playful, cocky, and somewhat bitchy. The Mamasan explained to me that she is great with 100% customer satisfaction while 300 was 50. I was really tiered and could not go again so I thanked her and left around 8:30.

Went back to the hotel, had dinner at the Japanese restaurant (very good) , then tried to sleep but had a hard time doing it because I kept on thinking about the excellent experience but all the traveling and short sleeps took over and I fell asleep.

Woke up around 11pm and after ample thought, I decided to go back to D1 instead of Sauna 18 mainly to have 301.

I was greeted warmly with the Indonesian mamasan again and luckily number 301 was available so I ordered another Vodka and picked her before another punter does. 301 was not pleased and she kept pausing to the other punters. She was arguing with the mamasan while 300 was very sad and was making gun shape with her hands and shooting me. It was very clear that there was friendship, jealousy, and loyalty between the 2 girls. I was really worried that my session will turn into a disaster and after ample thought while sipping on Vodka, consulting with the mamasan, and the 2 girls, I decided to take both of them. I was quoted 3000 for both but was able to negotiate it down to 2500 for 90 minutes. I figured I would have paid that at S18 anyway so why not.

Both girls were very happy and I was ecstatic. We went into the rooms and they proceeded with the massage while DFK (both girls) and it appears that 301 was a real pro, riming, and massaging my balls. They turned me over and 300 commenced BBBJ and I was instantly hard and she wanted to fuck immediately so she put on the condom but she was really tight and dry without DATY so 301 opened another condom took the lubrication from it and proceeded to apply it to 300 then she was able to fit me in and proceeded CG while I was kissing and liking the tits of 301 till I came.

We moved to the bathtub with 300 behind me and 301 in the front and as suspected 301 was a real pro and her technique was way better than 300. She did everything placing my member between her tits, massaging it hard with her pussy, and then she proceeded with deep throat BBBJ. I had to fight hard not to come knowing that If I do the fun will be over and I won't be able to get hard again.

We moved over to the bed where I also took over with a 69 position with 301 while 300 was playing with every available part of my body. I was supper hard and proceeded to fuck CG while 300 was playing with my balls, kissing me, and nibbling on my nipples till I came. We had to hurry to the bathtub in order to finish on time.

300: Looks 7, Smile 1, 000, 000, attitude 9, Service 8, English OK, and supper sweet.

301: Looks 8++, Attitude 8, Service 10, English OK, and supper smart.

All in all it was one of the best experiences I had with 2 girls but the session was too short and I could have easly stayed with these 2 girls for 3 hours.

Special thanks to Osuul who kept on insisting that D1 is the best place in Macau and I have to concur.

Der Tourist: If you have not had your trip to Macau yet, skip all the other places and go to D1, pick 301 who has a tight pussy; she will DFK, Deep throat BBBJ, DATY, and fucks your brains out for 1, 518 which less expensive than Rio and S18 (my humble advice)

Useful information: The girls get 500 MOP per session while the house gets the rest. I was offered to take out any of the girl for an overnight stay for 3, 400 MOP which I believe is very negotiable.

I am on the plane heading to BKK for the final 2 days of Mongering and I hope I won't be disappointed after the great time at D1.

[QUOTE=Samata61; 1126785]Finished my business in mainland China and despite not having a great time at Rio a few days ago, I decided to spend 1 more day in Macau basically to have some Vietnamese pussies.

I had decided to spend the early evening at Darling 1 and then go to Sauna 18 for the rest of the evening. [/QUOTE]Great and useful report!

I am a bit (too much) conservative and I do not venture much (hence my repeated visits at Rio) but have to agree I got to try one of those the next time.

Your exprience, still confirms my theory of stayin gin the same establishment for one evening and not browse too much in the same night (provided time is on your side and you stay in Macau a few nights)

I would have taken the rest in the sauna (at Rio the facilities do allow to sleep comfortably, but I do not know about the other saunas).

With more chances to understand and see the girls

[QUOTE=Samata61; 1126785]Special thanks to Osuul who kept on insisting that D1 is the best place in Macau and I have to concur.

Der Tourist: If you have not had your trip to Macau yet, skip all the other places and go to D1, pick 301 who has a tight pussy; she will DFK, Deep throat BBBJ, DATY, and fucks your brains out for 1, 518 which less expensive than Rio and S18 (my humble advice)

Useful information: The girls get 500 MOP per session while the house gets the rest. I was offered to take out any of the girl for an overnight stay for 3, 400 MOP which I believe is very negotiable.

I am on the plane heading to BKK for the final 2 days of Mongering and I hope I won't be disappointed after the great time at D1. [/QUOTE]Good to hear that you had a good time. Darling one didn't make my first place in Macau (that was a japanese girl at Big Boss Sauna) but the consitency of good performace is what brings me back there almost every time I am in macao. The last couple of times I didn't go there, but that is only because I have the phone No. Of a thai girl from Darling 1 that I meet everytime I am in macao (feels like cheating to me to choose another girl there if she is around). And BTW don't ask the management for a take out. I asked her directly in the room. We never talked about money. I simply put a 1000 HK$ in her back pocket when we kissed goodbye and had text messages 10 minutes later about how much she missed me. After 2 day sessions of 3 popps and 4 hours each I had a couple of overnighters and gave her 1500 for that.

Had overnighters for 1000 in macao too but also girls asking for 3000. Asways depents on your game and the girl.

My No. 2 in macao is a viet girl in darling 2. I had dinner and overnighters with her, total GFE and a nuke in bed. She was happy with 1000 for a full day and overnight on her free day. At this point I totaly agree with Bionicman if you stay at one place and choose a girl you click with multiple times it usualy gets better and better if you treat them right.

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1126488]IMHO I would stick to one place each night. (reduces also some overhead minimum charges)[/QUOTE]Did that, been there.

My max is 4 in a day. Darling 1 in the morning, darling 2 for afternoon, big boss for evening and famila noble for the night.

True you save 100 or 200 HK$ for a second girl in a sauna. But hey, I am usualy there over weekend and I go by "carpe diem".

[QUOTE=Osuul; 1126893]Did that, been there.

My max is 4 in a day. Darling 1 in the morning, darling 2 for afternoon, big boss for evening and famila noble for the night.

True you save 100 or 200 HK$ for a second girl in a sauna. But hey, I am usualy there over weekend and I go by "carpe diem". [/QUOTE]I am not checking the penny too and definetely I cannot be rated as a cheap Charlie, but Aldo kot as a silly spending guy. My main point is that if one gives time to one sauna only he has same chances of visiting more locations. Girls come in for new shifts and so on. Variety is there and one has to pick it. Harder if he starts to move around without much knowledge of the venues.

[QUOTE=Osuul; 1126892]Good to hear that you had a good time. Darling one didn't make my first place in Macau (that was a japanese girl at Big Boss Sauna) but the consitency of good performace is what brings me back there almost every time I am in macao. The last couple of times I didn't go there, but that is only because I have the phone No. Of a thai girl from Darling 1 that I meet everytime I am in macao (feels like cheating to me to choose another girl there if she is around). And BTW don't ask the management for a take out. I asked her directly in the room. We never talked about money. I simply put a 1000 HK$ in her back pocket when we kissed goodbye and had text messages 10 minutes later about how much she missed me. After 2 day sessions of 3 popps and 4 hours each I had a couple of overnighters and gave her 1500 for that.

Had overnighters for 1000 in macao too but also girls asking for 3000. Asways depents on your game and the girl.

My No. 2 in macao is a viet girl in darling 2. I had dinner and overnighters with her, total GFE and a nuke in bed. She was happy with 1000 for a full day and overnight on her free day. At this point I totaly agree with Bionicman if you stay at one place and choose a girl you click with multiple times it usualy gets better and better if you treat them right. [/QUOTE]I was not planing to take any of the girls through D1 but submitted the info. For the benefit of the form.

Both girls were willing to go alone after their shift but it ends at 3 am and I had no planes to pull an overnight-er since I had to take plane the next morning and need to work all day.

Hi Bros,

Is there any chance to get a digicam inside a sauna, to take some photos?

Greetings from Konsul

[QUOTE=Konsul; 1130677]Hi Bros,

Is there any chance to get a digicam inside a sauna, to take some photos?

Greetings from Konsul[/QUOTE]I do not really think so.

You can get in with your (smart) phone but surely there will be objections if you take a picture of the loung / commin area.

Not to mention the girl in the room. Never seen any picture at all around.

You might succeed if you repeatedly get the same girl and maybe get her trust.

But if that happens I am pretty sure the encoutners take place in your hotel room and not paying the sauna charges.

I am pretty sure there are rules and the girls will alert security if someone insists.

I often think that sauna rooms might be monitored by CCTV, just for safety purposes.

Those establishments are pretty much well organized and super professional.

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1130774]I do not really think so.

You can get in with your (smart) phone but surely there will be objections if you take a picture of the loung / commin area.

Not to mention the girl in the room. Never seen any picture at all around.

You might succeed if you repeatedly get the same girl and maybe get her trust.

But if that happens I am pretty sure the encoutners take place in your hotel room and not paying the sauna charges.

I am pretty sure there are rules and the girls will alert security if someone insists.

I often think that sauna rooms might be monitored by CCTV, just for safety purposes.

Those establishments are pretty much well organized and super professional. [/QUOTE]This is the question I wanted to ask as well. You seem to have answered it well.

However, I wonder what if after finishing with the girl and if she seems ok (I. E. Seems friendly enough) I would ask if I could take "our" picture with my mobile phone? I have noticed that girls tend to be less afraid of a photo once you take it "together" I. E. Next to each other with my hand holding the phone (camera) and taking a self-portrait with her. Or is that also a no-no in Macau saunas?

[QUOTE=Der Tourist; 1130778]This is the question I wanted to ask as well. You seem to have answered it well.

However, I wonder what if after finishing with the girl and if she seems ok (I. E. Seems friendly enough) I would ask if I could take "our" picture with my mobile phone? I have noticed that girls tend to be less afraid of a photo once you take it "together" I. E. Next to each other with my hand holding the phone (camera) and taking a self-portrait with her. Or is that also a no-no in Macau saunas? [/QUOTE]My experience is that there is a huge language barrier in 90% of the cases of sauna girls (Macau and mainland in general)

So the only way to explainwhat you want is to show you take a picture.

That will scare most of the girls.

If only one can talk to the girls and motion into the photo talks making it appear as a casual matter, it wmight work.

But we are not there to discuss much in the 60' of the room session.

Managers in the mainloung tend to speak english but a) they want to protect the privacy of the other customers, be) they do not want the lounge starts to be a landmark for "postcard from Sacrosa" (or Rio or.) , see) they are Chinese and that brings the culture issue. Nothing wrong with their thinking, but just a different thinking.

In a way those managers are efficient policemen and salesmen.

They do not want people to mess around in the lounge (and in the rooms)

Have been tempted to take a few shots myself when alone in the room, but as mentioned, I believe there is a sort of monitoring. Not worth finding it out

Is there a sleeping room in 18sauna?

[QUOTE=Nonsensestuff;1131575]Is there a sleeping room in 18sauna?[/QUOTE]Hi!

I am at this moment in the "18" Sauna.

Yes, there is a sleeping room with 52 cabins. The room is located behind the restaurant.

You can stay up to 24 houres if you choose a "sex-massage" ($1. 738. $3. 006). If you only choose sauna ($405) you can stay up to 12 houres.

Best wishes.

Jan

Hi dear gentlemen,

Since my trip to Macau is nearing I am pretty determined that it is going to be the 18 Sauna or Rio I'm going to go for while during my short 1 night stay in the place. Since I'll be staying in the Golden Dragon hotel I guess it won't take more than 5 minutes to get to 18 Sauna from my room.

Anyway, my question is related to pricing of the entire sauna experience and a few other points. Just how the whole thing works? I understand that the soapy massage coasts something in the range of 2000MOP (?). But what about the rest?

- Are there no some kind of other (or "hidden") charges such as "entry fee" or "minimum fee" or "using the sofa fee" or anything of the sort? If so, is it clearly communicated? And are such basic services as showers charged for?

- Do you have to pay after each service or upon leaving? Just want to be clear how the whole charging procedure for being in the sauna works.

- What about some other services? From what I have read in the reports there is that "thigh massage" which, as much as I understand, is a special way of calling a HJ. How much does it approximately cost? And is it worth it? Are you allowed / encouraged to come (I certainly wouldn't want that to happen before the "main" event of soapy massage).

- Are there any other services worth trying? Something like a nice handjob or whatever else (even kissing, touching etc.) there is on offer for a warm-up? I understand that most of those services may be not exciting to common visitors but I'll be there only once and perhaps not come back very soon so I guess it's a good idea to try something just for the sake of knowing what it is.

- How to know when the "parade" of the girls is starting and how not to miss it while having some other services in the sauna? Especially if I don't want to spend there, say, more than 3 hours.

Again, I'd be thankful for some info on this. I already did quite some reading in this thread and it's amazing how much information I digested thanks to people who dedicated their effort and time to writing those reports and answers relating to saunas. Thanks all and cheers!

[QUOTE=Der Tourist; 1133103]Hi dear gentlemen,

Since my trip to Macau is nearing I am pretty determined that it is going to be the 18 Sauna or Rio I'm going to go for while during my short 1 night stay in the place. Since I'll be staying in the Golden Dragon hotel I guess it won't take more than 5 minutes to get to 18 Sauna from my room.

Anyway, my question is related to pricing of the entire sauna experience and a few other points. Just how the whole thing works? I understand that the soapy massage coasts something in the range of 2000MOP (?). But what about the rest?

- Are there no some kind of other (or "hidden") charges such as "entry fee" or "minimum fee" or "using the sofa fee" or anything of the sort? If so, is it clearly communicated? And are such basic services as showers charged for?

- Do you have to pay after each service or upon leaving? Just want to be clear how the whole charging procedure for being in the sauna works.

- What about some other services? From what I have read in the reports there is that "thigh massage" which, as much as I understand, is a special way of calling a HJ. How much does it approximately cost? And is it worth it? Are you allowed / encouraged to come (I certainly wouldn't want that to happen before the "main" event of soapy massage).

- Are there any other services worth trying? Something like a nice handjob or whatever else (even kissing, touching etc.) there is on offer for a warm-up? I understand that most of those services may be not exciting to common visitors but I'll be there only once and perhaps not come back very soon so I guess it's a good idea to try something just for the sake of knowing what it is.

- How to know when the "parade" of the girls is starting and how not to miss it while having some other services in the sauna? Especially if I don't want to spend there, say, more than 3 hours.

Again, I'd be thankful for some info on this. I already did quite some reading in this thread and it's amazing how much information I digested thanks to people who dedicated their effort and time to writing those reports and answers relating to saunas. Thanks all and cheers! [/QUOTE]18 Sauna is in the same buliding of the golden dragon, so its more like a minute to get there, usualy your hotel room is in tower 1, the sauna is in tower 2, so just down to the lobby over to the other tower and up to 7th floor.

The minium charge is 400 HK, if you choose a girl, then the 400 HK are included, if you only have one of the cheaper foot massage etc you have to pay the 400.

Drinks and most of the food is free, but anyway you have a menue with all services listed and the price that goes with it.

There is non fees for locker, shower etc. If you have a price for a lets say viet girl that is listed as 1800 in the menue and you go in, shower, have some time in the pool, sit down in the rest area, drink a coke, go to the show time and choose a girl, enjoy her in the room, shower and leave, you will pay 1800 HK, thats it.

All massage services, like foot massage, thigh massage etc. Go extra, and don't let the captian upsell you for some "special" condom for 100 HK.

A thigh massage is not a handjob, its just a massage around your "di di", she will make you hard but not let you come, I think shanghai massage is a HJ, but an expensive one, not sure about the pricing, I think it was around 300 for thigh and 600 for shanghai, but just read the menue for that,

For the payment, you will get a waistband with your locker key, on that is also a No, whatever service you order even if its a free service they will always ask to see that No. Everything will be billed to that nummber and you pay at the end.

For the show time, usually you hear that they turn on the music in the pool area very loudly, even if you miss one, in peak times there is one every 30 minutes, anyway you can always ask the captian to call you for the next showtime.

Prices for the girls go from 1500 to 2200 but I wasnt there for a long time (I think service sucks at 18) but they might have gone up 50 or 100 HK until now.

All other saunas are pretty much the same system but cheaper (except RIO). Other saunas nearby are Darling 1 (5 minutes with is not a sauna but I love the jacuzi soapy thing and the RIO (about 10 minutes)

[QUOTE=Osuul; 1133237]18 Sauna is in the same buliding of the golden dragon, so its more like a minute to get there, usualy your hotel room is in tower 1, the sauna is in tower 2, so just down to the lobby over to the other tower and up to 7th floor.
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The minimum charge is 400 HK, if you choose a girl, then the 400 HK are included, if you only have one of the cheaper foot massage etc you have to pay the 400.

All other saunas are pretty much the same system but cheaper (except RIO). Other saunas nearby are Darling 1 (5 minutes with is not a sauna but I love the jacuzi soapy thing and the RIO (about 10 minutes) [/QUOTE]All well said and

To complete the information, at Rio, the side services cost around 150/200 MOP (leg massage pedicure, manicure, head massage, ear massage, etc)

At Rio Shangai massage is a session of 90' with HE, the girl will not be naked.

If I well remember costs about 6 or 900 MOP.

The thigh massage (also called deep vein massage) is specifically set to get you a hard on, il will even be massaged but made so you do not come as they want that you spend more money (soap massage, from 1500 to 2000MOP) for that pleasure.

I succeeded a HE booking 3 sessions of thigh massage. At Rio it is in a small room with a reclining armchair.

The teasing of the oil massage is superior.

At Emperor the thigh massage is performed in the main lounge with the hands of the masseuse browsing under the towels. They are even more direct and indulge for about 70% of the time (a session approx lasts 15-20') playing with your didi. Still very careful not to make you come.

Thank you Osuul and Bionicman. I guess I now know all I need to know. Only thing that left is to pray and hope to get a girl who not only looks good but also performs well. Thanks alot guys.

[QUOTE=Der Tourist;1133363]Thank you Osuul and Bionicman. I guess I now know all I need to know. Only thing that left is to pray and hope to get a girl who not only looks good but also performs well. Thanks alot guys.[/QUOTE]If you are concered about performamce read [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1117-Sauna-Reviews&p=1126785&viewfull=1#post1126785[/url]

As I mentioned I barely ever had a good performer at 18 or RIO.

[QUOTE=Osuul; 1133392]If you are concered about performamce read.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1117-Sauna-Reviews&p=1126785&viewfull=1#post1126785[/url]

As I mentioned I barely ever had a good performer at 18 or RIO. [/QUOTE]Thanks again, Osuul. I read that report already as I did read virtually all reports on Rio and 18 Sauna that are available in this forum so by now I have some clue what to expect. I am rather strongly determined to go to 18 Sauna or Rio but I guess I still may make a spontaneous decision to go to D1 instead while in the place. Whatever will happen I promise a report in this very thread. Cheers and thanks again.

[QUOTE=Der Tourist;1133814]Thanks again, Osuul. I read that report already as I did read virtually all reports on Rio and 18 Sauna that are available in this forum so by now I have some clue what to expect. I am rather strongly determined to go to 18 Sauna or Rio but I guess I still may make a spontaneous decision to go to D1 instead while in the place. Whatever will happen I promise a report in this very thread. Cheers and thanks again.[/QUOTE]It is a key point to know the # of the girl in the FR.

-That is one of the most important information.

No point in reading the stunning girl did a fantastic bbj if we do not know who she is!

In case some wants to take her.

Very true each one his own, ie a good performer with you might not be good with another monger.

Chemistry plays a role, but at least there is an indication.

So in case one wants to repeat your experience he knows the about.

More worth info than decoration of the rooms and alikes, since all that has been overly debated here, including the procedures.

All the best now and happy mongering

Hi!

Here are the actual prices for the girls at the 18 sauna (60 min.) :

Japanese Girls: $3. 006.

Korean Girls: $1. 998.

Taiwanese Models: $1. 998.

European Girls: $1. 798.

Vietnamese Girls: $1. 738.

Mongolian Girls: $1. 798.

Chinese Girls: $1. 738.

Last Saturday where around 120. 150 girls working at 18. It was an incredible lineup!

A took a Chinese girl for $1. 738. The service (BBBJ and sex in various positions) was good. Maybe a little too professional. But who cares.

The day before I went to Senado. Much smaller lineup, maybe 15 girls. I also took a Chinese girl. The service was greater then at 18. Especially the BBBJ. And a bit cheaper (I think $1. 438 for 60 min.).

Best wishes.

Jan

[QUOTE=Der Tourist; 1130778]This is the question I wanted to ask as well. You seem to have answered it well.

However, I wonder what if after finishing with the girl and if she seems ok (I. E. Seems friendly enough) I would ask if I could take "our" picture with my mobile phone? I have noticed that girls tend to be less afraid of a photo once you take it "together" I. E. Next to each other with my hand holding the phone (camera) and taking a self-portrait with her. Or is that also a no-no in Macau saunas? [/QUOTE]Is no problem inside the room, most of them are ok with it, specially if you are just asking for a non-nude photo on your phone cam. You got to be a bit tactful about it though. Security would not give a rats ass about it, it is between you and the girl.

Once saw some French dude trying to record the lineup at Supreme Sauna on his phone. One of the girls shouted out and security came, told him to stop and delete the footage.

[QUOTE=Der Tourist;1133814]Thanks again, Osuul. I read that report already as I did read virtually all reports on Rio and 18 Sauna that are available in this forum so by now I have some clue what to expect. I am rather strongly determined to go to 18 Sauna or Rio but I guess I still may make a spontaneous decision to go to D1 instead while in the place. Whatever will happen I promise a report in this very thread. Cheers and thanks again.[/QUOTE]Well, If you insist. For a first timer in Macau I would then recommend RIO. The RIO is the only that has this so called water bed. Its like a hybrid between a massage table and a bath tup. Its filled about 15 cm or 6 inch with water or a water milk mix (milk is extra cost) the girl will massage all your body parts with all her body parts.

The 18 massage part on the bed is rather oridinary compared to that.

[QUOTE=Osuul; 1134098]Well, If you insist. For a first timer in Macau I would then recommend RIO. The RIO is the only that has this so called water bed. Its like a hybrid between a massage table and a bath tup. Its filled about 15 cm or 6 inch with water or a water milk mix (milk is extra cost) the girl will massage all your body parts with all her body parts.

The 18 massage part on the bed is rather oridinary compared to that. [/QUOTE]I describe the RIO water bed as a pool table with sprayers! .

Has an head rest

It is padded.

It is great.

I do not suggest the milk

It costs some 200MOP extraor so, not worth as at the end it is a sort of whitener, nothing else.

Better use the liquid soap that helps the sliding of the body.

I liked that class on Comparative Politics in college. Or was it Comparative Literature? Anyway, I love ISG and have read plenty, but sometimes it's hard to compare different mongering destinations without getting some direct expert input. So my solution is to just ask. I'm planning one last major mongering bender in mid April (10-14 days). I hope not to give up the hobby, but in a few months I'll have to pursue it on 'l little here, a little there' basis. In short, one last full-on sex vacation coming up. Sooo. . .

Where to go? I know we have some well-traveled mongerers on the board, so I'm looking for some comparative perspective from guys who have been to the places on this board plus the others I list below. Here are my options; they seem like gaps in my mongering resume I need to fill. (One factor: I have to justify the trip as tourism, so for example a strictly Bangkok trip would definitely raise red flags). Here goes:

Macau, Changping, Hong Kong (with possible Bangkok layover). Cost to Travel $1000 to $1400 – Pros:; like the idea of trying KTV and Chinese saunas; Can visit a relative in Macau so I have a good pretext to go; Want to go now before scene gets shut down or too pricey; Bangkok layover chance a big plus. Cons: US visa issue, no Chinese language, Macau saunas seem a bit pricey, lots of reports about Chinese girls being too mechanical, though I have contradictory experience in KL and elsewhere. . .

Brazil (Rio) – Cost to travel about $1400 – Pros: I generally love Latinas and tan lines and diverse looks, and what I hear about Brazilian girls in bed (confirmed at an FKK and LMP) ; Cons: I would be there around and during holy week; Termas seem expensive and exchange rate to dollar not great; No Portuguese but I've managed with no Spanish in other countries and so maybe can fake it; Been there once (pre mongering days) and want to do non-mongering activities but trip not long enough to see lots of Brazil.

Jakarta – Cost to travel $650 – Pros: Wild girls (threesomes) at Jakarta places, prices seem fair, would like to visit Sumatra so Jakarta a good launch point. Cons: Been to Jakarta and didn't love the city, and that seems like the only place to really monger on the trip; Indo girls nice, but may want more diversity

Other options: Colombia, Manila: been to both places recently, great sex / price, but don't have lots of time to see new parts of country to justify going.

Thanks for indulging my indecision!

Thanks Jan G for the clue on the pricing. This is very useful.

I wold definitely be [i]not[/i] Interested in a 3000 Japanese girl. What is the way of knowing the girl's price category? I've read about some attributes on their outfit but are they all clearly market which price category they are in?

[QUOTE=Der Tourist; 1134169]Thanks Jan G for the clue on the pricing. This is very useful.

I wold definitely be [i]not[/i] Interested in a 3000 Japanese girl. What is the way of knowing the girl's price category? I've read about some attributes on their outfit but are they all clearly market which price category they are in? [/QUOTE]Yes, different color (and sometimes different shape. Normal tags are heart shaped but the models have star shaped tags) on their number tag.

From memory: Red = Chinese, Blue = Vietnamese, Red Star = Model, Yellow = Russian (well, you would have figured them out anyway) , Light purple = Mongolian. Never seen a Japanese girl in 18, but some saunas sometimes pretend to have Japanese girls, but they are in most instances from somewhere else.

When I first went to 18 some 5 years back, they had a small pamphlet they handed to me with the tag colors and the prices next to it. Just ask one of the guys working there for a price explanation on the tags and he may give you one of those.

[QUOTE=Der Tourist; 1134169]Thanks Jan G for the clue on the pricing. This is very useful.

I wold definitely be [i]not[/i] Interested in a 3000 Japanese girl. What is the way of knowing the girl's price category? I've read about some attributes on their outfit but are they all clearly market which price category they are in? [/QUOTE]Just make sure you are fast. Last time I was there, there were so many guys the girls were picked up faster then free beer in a bar full of alcoholics.

[QUOTE=Jan G; 1134061]Hi!

Here are the actual prices for the girls at the 18 sauna (60 min.) :

Japanese Girls: $3. 006.

Korean Girls: $1. 998.

Taiwanese Models: $1. 998.

European Girls: $1. 798.

Vietnamese Girls: $1. 738.

Mongolian Girls: $1. 798.

Chinese Girls: $1. 738.

Last Saturday where around 120. 150 girls working at 18. It was an incredible lineup!

A took a Chinese girl for $1. 738. The service (BBBJ and sex in various positions) was good. Maybe a little too professional. But who cares.

The day before I went to Senado. Much smaller lineup, maybe 15 girls. I also took a Chinese girl. The service was greater then at 18. Especially the BBBJ. And a bit cheaper (I think $1. 438 for 60 min.).

Best wishes.

Jan[/QUOTE]Frankly gentleman, I like the 780mop Viet girl thats chosen by mgmt. You get 90 mins, all the benefits of the spa use. At Familia Noblia, you also get an extra for free before 6pm. I had several there and all better service than the over priced pussy that 18, East Spa, etc offer. Thats my 2cents.

PC out

[QUOTE=Osuul;1134527]Just make sure you are fast. Last time I was there, there were so many guys the girls were picked up faster then free beer in a bar full of alcoholics.[/QUOTE]Oh yes, I will keep this in mind. I'll be there on Saturday so not a good time for those who are slow. However I am "preparing" myself for that. I even got contact lenses (I am short-sighted and wear glasses but almost never contacts) to make sure my eyesight is maximum sharp even in dimmed conditions. I have learned the lesson of being too slow while choosing girls in Bangkok go-go bars a couple of times and will try to be as quick as possible. Thanks for the advice though. .

[QUOTE=Ibn Buttita; 1134167]I liked that class on Comparative.

Where to go? .

Macau, Changping, Hong Kong (with possible Bangkok layover). Cost to Travel $1000 to $1400 – Pros:; like the idea of trying KTV and Chinese saunas; Can visit a relative in Macau so I have a good pretext to go; Want to go now before scene gets shut down or too pricey; Bangkok layover chance a big plus. Cons: US visa issue, no Chinese language, Macau saunas seem a bit pricey, lots of reports about Chinese girls being too mechanical, though I have contradictory experience in KL and elsewhere. . .

Brazil (Rio) – Cost to travel about $1400 – Pros: I generally love Latinas and tan lines and diverse looks, and what I hear about Brazilian girls in bed (confirmed at an FKK and LMP) ; Cons: I would be there around and during holy week; Termas seem expensive and exchange rate to dollar not great; No Portuguese but I've managed with no Spanish in other countries and so maybe can fake it; Been there once (pre mongering days) and want to do non-mongering activities but trip not long enough to see lots of Brazil.

Jakarta – Cost to travel $650 – Pros: Wild girls (threesomes) at Jakarta places, prices seem fair, would like to visit Sumatra so Jakarta a good launch point. Cons: Been to Jakarta and didn't love the city, and that seems like the only place to really monger on the trip; Indo girls nice, but may want more diversity

Other options: Colombia, Manila: been to both places recently, great sex / price, but don't have lots of time to see new parts of country to justify going.

Thanks for indulging my indecision! [/QUOTE]IB,

You should do all of them.

Macau, CP and Hong Kong are different places. Therefore I like all three. There are plenty of information in this forum. And each of them is it worth spending 2 days or more there.

Brazil is a absolute must for every monger. I like Sao Paulo, Rio or Florianopolis. Also many information here.

Jakarta is a hot place too.

Manila is perfect for a lot of fun.

I don't know Columbia, but you already visited it.

At the end it is not about budget, it is more about your schedule. You should try all of them.

I couldn't stay only on one place mongering, I love the diversity of our world (of mongering).

W

Two weeks ago I was in Macau and want to share my experience with fellow members.

First on Hou Va Sauna:

I read earlier a good report by Undercoverh so wanted to try that one. This is indeed a value for money. Be cautioned that this place is not really a Sauna, you will not have any thing that is normally associated with a sauna, that is typical of Macau. The interiors are nothing to talk about, but the action rooms are neat and spacious, has all the facilities like good shower area, etc, When you enter the mamasen will call a line-up, you mke your pick and move to room for the deed. The girls are good but not great. They are all in the range of 6 to 8 and young. What makes it interesting is that you get two pops for 80 minutes at a very reasonable rates. The costs are low as there is no big establishment. So if you are looking for a pure fun with girl alone in a room, this is ideal place.

The directions to go there are given by Undercoverh, very nicely and they are valid to day. (I am reproducing from his report, with due credits to him, for ready reference as: When you stand in front of the hotel looking across the small street directly in front of the hotel, you will see a small park. Simply walk across the park, cross the street, and start walking to your right. Walk slowly and in 3 to 5 minutes you will be there. If you walk to the end of The block, you have passed it. Hou Va has a neon sign with a lady on it, or some type of sexy Fish lady.)

Only small update is that I went in night but the neon light outside is not glowing. So you may not see it unless you specifically look for it carefully.

If you are taking taxi, get off at Hotel Royal and do not go until the place, as the rates are significantly higher.

The rate card is as follows: (Read it as minutes; rate for Viet / Thai when you come by taxi; rate for Mangolian / Russian when you come by taxi; rate for Viet / Thai when you walk-in:

80 920 1150 620.

60 850 1050 550.

30 750 950 450.

12 hrs 1820 2320 1520.

12 hrs 1520 1820 1220.

Hotel 920 1250.

I was not clear the difference for two entries for same 12 hours or what is included in Hotel. I included above so that others are aware such line items in menu card exist.

When I went there are no Mangolians or Russians and mamasen did not promise them for any future visit, when I asked for.

I selected a good looking girl who is tall (relatively) well built, do not recall her number And she gave excellent service including BBBJ. I am not describing all as it is a routine One. She has resisted DFK, but I am not in to DFK and I was merely testing her. She is fine With a pecking kiss on lips and I am fine with it too. Rest all she is open. (I am also not In to anal / CIM). Due to language barrier could not communicate much but I never felt Rushed, she is doing all she can to please (I am not young) and I would definitely return Back. I took 620 HK$ package and gave her 60$ tip, which she felt visibly happy.

Sanado experience:

I am not going in to details of Sanado as that was well described by several others. The girl I picked up was giving the service as per rules, that is she is giving me a good shower, BBBJ, etc, I did not see any behaviour that I need to suspect as not welcome. Now I do respect Girls and in all my previous cases I try to reciprocate by giving them a soap rub in shower, Just as they do it to us, etc, (no kinky things / oral, just plain giving them shower!) In The present case the girl is resisting me, firmly but politely, when I was trying to soap her Front / back. I left it as such thinking she do not want excessive soap on her body. After we Came out she dried me with a towel. When I tried to do the same (just trying to dry her with A towel) , she stopped me giving an indication that she does not want to proceed, called the Manager, dressed up and left the room. This was very strange to me, as I never had such kind.

Of experience. I did not do any thing awkward, (not even with her private parts) , except for Trying to shower and dry her.

The manager came back enquiring what has happened. I explained her all. She did not say any Thing but asked me to come to lobby, arranged a quick (but small) line-up for me again, where I picked up another girl. This time it went smoothly again with all process and full time From beginning as per rule book, and this girl behaved normally. While exiting I was thinking Whether sauna will charge me more, but they did not do it.

While appreciating the sauna management for being reasonable, the first girl behaviour was Puzzling to me. Especially since, if she would have gave me a serious look, (even if I can Not understand what she is saying) I would have not tried to shower / dry her. But she was Polite until she abruptly left. I felt it strange and want to share, specially the reaction of Management, which is good.

[QUOTE=Whomer; 1134793]IB,

Macau, CP and Hong Kong are different places. Therefore I like all three. There are plenty of information in this forum. And each of them is it worth spending 2 days or more there. [/QUOTE]Can someone msg me or link to a post describing Changpin and how to get there and what its like. I have traveled all around in search of the ultimate. Been to Angeles City, Thailand, Shanghai, Beijing, and Macau many times.

I hear CP is the best, but could use a basic guide on how to get there, what to expect. Been searching but can't seem to come up w / a good reference.

Also if anyone is going and would like to meet up, let me know when and where and I'm there!

[QUOTE=Lattelatte; 1137583]Can someone msg me or link to a post describing Changpin and how to get there and what its like. I have traveled all around in search of the ultimate. Been to Angeles City, Thailand, Shanghai, Beijing, and Macau many times.

I hear CP is the best, but could use a basic guide on how to get there, what to expect. Been searching but can't seem to come up w / a good reference.

Also if anyone is going and would like to meet up, let me know when and where and I'm there! [/QUOTE]Check out the Dongguan posts in China. It's probably the most active of the China forums. The king of guides is Big Swinging Dave, who organizes KTV parties. He's got a lot of repeat clients, and by reading the Dongguan posts you'll get a hint about their personalities. I have used Dave's services and recommend him without hesitation.

I'm sure there are other ways to get there, but from HK you take the train from the Hong Hom rail station on Kowloon. It's about an hour ride, plus you've got the customs check, etc, but they're pretty quick about it.

The only caveat is that very very few girls speak English, compared with Thailand and the Philippines. But not a big deal as your money will do most of the talking.

Looking for a little advice here. I'll just dive right in.

I'm not new to Macau. I've been here a lot of times over the past few years. But my sauna experience has been limited to only 18 and Rio because that's where I started out and I never saw a reason to go elsewhere. Except maybe now.

Basically I'm planning a very short trip to Macau for the weekend. Get there Saturday night, leave Sunday afternoon, one hot night of sex, that sort of thing. I've always booked a cheap hotel room in the past, but I realized that I never really use it, so this time I was thinking of not getting a room at all and spending the money on more girls.

If I wanted to stay overnight at a sauna, which ones would be the best choice for that? I'm not looking for anything fancy, just somewhere I can fall asleep for the remainder of the night after I've worn myself out.

I've read the various reports from members about the different saunas, so I don't really need any reviews in that respect. But when taking into consideration the quality of the girls and the overnight accommodations, which sauna would you recommend?

Or would you guys not recommend going this route at all and that I should just book a room instead?

[QUOTE=Seamaster811; 1139377]Looking for a little advice here. I'll just dive right in.

I'm not new to Macau. I've been here a lot of times over the past few years. But my sauna experience has been limited to only 18 and Rio because that's where I started out and I never saw a reason to go elsewhere. Except maybe now.
If I wanted to stay overnight at a sauna, which ones would be the best choice for that? I'm not looking for anything fancy, just somewhere I can fall asleep for the remainder of the night after I've worn myself out.

Or would you guys not recommend going this route at all and that I should just book a room instead? [/QUOTE]As you know Rio is not the cheapest but in terms of facilities it is probbaly the best.

The money saved from not renting an hotel room can be invested in the overall higher cost of Rio, where you will be very comfortable, with all foods catered in the deal, comfortable loung chairs and so on.

My 2 cents

Last week I got stuck there overnight by fog, after a session at Golden Sauna I was told by the girl that the manager would give me a room to sleep in. Did not ask and ended up just sleeping on the lounge chairs whcih was OK, but not the same as a flat bed. Apparently it is only about 300-400 HKd for 12 hours basic lounge around.

I'm not new to Macau. I've been here a lot of times over the past few years. But my sauna experience has been limited to only 18 and Rio because that's where I started out and I never saw a reason to go elsewhere. Except maybe now.

Basically I'm planning a very short trip to Macau for the weekend. Get there Saturday night, leave Sunday afternoon, one hot night of sex, that sort of thing. I've always booked a cheap hotel room in the past, but I realized that I never really use it, so this time I was thinking of not getting a room at all and spending the money on more girls.

If I wanted to stay overnight at a sauna, which ones would be the best choice for that? I'm not looking for anything fancy, just somewhere I can fall asleep for the remainder of the night after I've worn myself out.

I've read the various reports from members about the different saunas, so I don't really need any reviews in that respect. But when taking into consideration the quality of the girls and the overnight accommodations, which sauna would you recommend?

Or would you guys not recommend going this route at all and that I should just book a room instead? [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AussieDoug; 1139458]Last week I got stuck there overnight by fog, after a session at Golden Sauna I was told by the girl that the manager would give me a room to sleep in. Did not ask and ended up just sleeping on the lounge chairs whcih was OK, but not the same as a flat bed. Apparently it is only about 300-400 HKd for 12 hours basic lounge around.

I'm not new to Macau. I've been here a lot of times over the past few years. But my sauna experience has been limited to only 18 and Rio because that's where I started out and I never saw a reason to go elsewhere. Except maybe now.

Basically I'm planning a very short trip to Macau for the weekend. Get there Saturday night, leave Sunday afternoon, one hot night of sex, that sort of thing. I've always booked a cheap hotel room in the past, but I realized that I never really use it, so this time I was thinking of not getting a room at all and spending the money on more girls.

If I wanted to stay overnight at a sauna, which ones would be the best choice for that? I'm not looking for anything fancy, just somewhere I can fall asleep for the remainder of the night after I've worn myself out.

I've read the various reports from members about the different saunas, so I don't really need any reviews in that respect. But when taking into consideration the quality of the girls and the overnight accommodations, which sauna would you recommend?

Or would you guys not recommend going this route at all and that I should just book a room instead? [/QUOTE][/QUOTE]Familia noble I got a room with a tv at no extra cost

[QUOTE=AussieDoug; 1139458]Last week I got stuck there overnight by fog, after a session at Golden Sauna I was told by the girl that the manager would give me a room to sleep in. Did not ask and ended up just sleeping on the lounge chairs whcih was OK, but not the same as a flat bed. Apparently it is only about 300-400 HKd for 12 hours basic lounge around.

I'm not new to Macau. I've been here a lot of times over the past few years. But my sauna experience has been limited to only 18 and Rio because that's where I started out and I never saw a reason to go elsewhere. Except maybe now.

Basically I'm planning a very short trip to Macau for the weekend. Get there Saturday night, leave Sunday afternoon, one hot night of sex, that sort of thing. I've always booked a cheap hotel room in the past, but I realized that I never really use it, so this time I was thinking of not getting a room at all and spending the money on more girls.

If I wanted to stay overnight at a sauna, which ones would be the best choice for that? I'm not looking for anything fancy, just somewhere I can fall asleep for the remainder of the night after I've worn myself out.

I've read the various reports from members about the different saunas, so I don't really need any reviews in that respect. But when taking into consideration the quality of the girls and the overnight accommodations, which sauna would you recommend?

Or would you guys not recommend going this route at all and that I should just book a room instead? [/QUOTE][/QUOTE]I always use Familia Noblia Sauna. I use the 760mop Mgmt choice girl which is always Viet. Nice sleeping area but very hard beds. Anyway, always had a good time there and a decent wet area too.

PC out

Please explain what MOP is and which is the best saunplace in macau for a full service.

[QUOTE=Osuul; 1126892]Good to hear that you had a good time. Darling one didn't make my first place in Macau (that was a japanese girl at Big Boss Sauna) but the consitency of good performace is what brings me back there almost every time I am in macao. The last couple of times I didn't go there, but that is only because I have the phone No. Of a thai girl from Darling 1 that I meet everytime I am in macao (feels like cheating to me to choose another girl there if she is around). And BTW don't ask the management for a take out. I asked her directly in the room. We never talked about money. I simply put a 1000 HK$ in her back pocket when we kissed goodbye and had text messages 10 minutes later about how much she missed me. After 2 day sessions of 3 popps and 4 hours each I had a couple of overnighters and gave her 1500 for that.

Had overnighters for 1000 in macao too but also girls asking for 3000. Asways depents on your game and the girl.

My No. 2 in macao is a viet girl in darling 2. I had dinner and overnighters with her, total GFE and a nuke in bed. She was happy with 1000 for a full day and overnight on her free day. At this point I totaly agree with Bionicman if you stay at one place and choose a girl you click with multiple times it usualy gets better and better if you treat them right. [/QUOTE]

Can you please suggest how far is Rio or 18 sauna from the venetian. Does one get rooms overnight rooms in Rio or famila noblia. Are all the saunas close by to each other.

[QUOTE=Samata61; 1125149]I have business in Mainland China and since I am in SE Asia, I decided to free up some time for mongering.

The decision of where to go was a very tough and after through thinking I decided to keep all of my options open so I flew through BKK to Macau where I am now and will go to Mainland China tomorrow.

I only set up 1 day for mongering at the beginning of the trip and 3 days at the end and stopped by Macau first so I can go to BKK at the end of the trip if I don't like the action in Macau. I know Macau is more expensive but everyone was raging about all the pretty girls at the various Saunas.

After reading all the reviews I decided to book at the Rio hotel and check our Rio Sauna since it appears to be the best one along with Sauna 18. The weather was cold and rainy so I decided not to wonder outside the hotel.

Arrived to Rio after a long flight and connection in BKK at 3:00pm had a quick lunch and tries to catch some sleep but could not because the room was too cold and they only had AC and after struggling with the English of various personnel, finally they brought me a portable heater so I relax for a couple of hours and headed down to the Sauna around 7:30 PM where I was the only non-Asian.

I was greeted by a tiny Vietnamese girl who offered to give a massage by the poolside shower and I accepted. She was very cute, spoke some English and was interested to learn more. Playful and fun.

Next I was directed to a very nice Sauna room where the services were explained to me by Indonesian girl; nice but ugly. I sat down then a massage girl caught my eye and I asked her to give me a thigh massage in a private room off course and you all know how that goes. She was pretty, tall. 28 years old with a great body. She gets off at 9:30 and she casually mentioned that she is free afterword but I declined since it was already 8:45 and I have not yet seen the line up but I took her number and told her I will call her on my way back if I decide to stay in Macau.

Went upstairs to see the line up and a girl danced by the pole and she was gorgeous and I should have picked her since she was a perfect 10. The line had about 40 girls mainly Chinese supper models and 5 Russians. 2 of the Chinese super models smiled widely at me and I ended up selecting one of them (don't remember the number). Went to the room and waited for her for a couple of minutes where she came and undresses; she was truly beautiful with good attitude but could only speak a couple of English words. The session was mechanical and she would not allow me to kiss her at all and when we moved to the bed I tried to take over but she would not let me and insisted to go through her routine of BBBJ and then fucking; After she finished the BBBJ I tried again to take over but no way; she went through the routine and we fucked in various positions till I came then she allowed me to DATY which was not fun anymore because there was about 5 minutes left and there is no way I am having another session with her. Looks 9, Attitude 7, Service 4, English 0. 5.

Went back to the Sauna, slept for about ½ an hour, eat, and had a couple of beers but could not stop thinking of the other girl (number 866) who kept on smiling and since the weather is bad, I decided not to go to Sauna 18 and stick with Rio so I asked the Indonesian girl to see if 866 is available and she was. I took a great and expensive risk but before writing a bad review, I had to be sure that the problem is the Sauna and not just one girl.

Went back to the room hoping to satisfy my need. The girl came once again very pretty; her teeth were not as perfect as the first one but had slightly bigger boobs. This one could not speak or understand a word of English so communication was non-existence; she appeared nice if I could have been able to communicate with her. Again the same mechanical routine; 866 allowed me to take over once we got to the bed but will not in any way allow me to DATY so I gave up and she gave me this hot / cold BBBJ with excessive spitting while I was playing with her pussy and she got very wet. She proceeded to place a condom and to my surprise, she lubricated her self extensively despite being very wet. We fucked in various positions and she kept on 'nicely' complaining that I am hurting her despite the fact that I am not big. I finally came and put an end to her misery, laid in bed for a couple of minutes hugging but again no kissing, showered and left. Looks 8, attitude 7, service 3, English. 1.

The whole experience was lack luster at best and the lack of English by both girls killed any chance I could have to improve it. Total Damage was 4, 663 MOP (US $600) which I could have had 2 girls together anywhere in the world and had the time of my life.

I got dressed and despite being super tired from the trip and 3 hours of sleep I decided to complete my Rio review and check the disco. I was stopped at the entrance by a fat lady explaining to me that it was not a real Disco but rather KTV where I can pick up a girl and take her back to my room since I am staying at the hotel. I inquired about the price 'out of curiosity' and she told me 3, 000 MOP but I can talk to the manager. I declined and went back to the room to write this report and go to sleep.

I don't think I will repeat Macau unless I want to try a Vietnamese girl probably from Darling 2 since both Vietnamese girls I talked to at Rio where supper nice and their English was acceptable. Well my Dog's English was better than these 2 Chinese Supper Models.

I think I will just change my return flight and do the connection in Macau airport and head directly to BKK.

I will keep you posted. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pramod Aggarwal;1140282]Can you please suggest how far is Rio or 18 sauna from the venetian. Does one get rooms overnight rooms in Rio or famila noblia. Are all the saunas close by to each other.[/QUOTE]A little RTFF and google maps should do.

[QUOTE=Pramod Aggarwal;1140279]Please explain what MOP is and which is the best saunplace in macau for a full service.[/QUOTE]MOP is the Macau currency, aka Pataca (comes from their portuguese times) , aka a Macau Dollar.

Its exchange rate is about 100MOP to 97HK$, then do the math. In most establishements it is accounted on 1:1 to the HK $

Hotel bills tend to charge and cash in HK$ (at the exchange rate) rather than MOP, especially when paying with credit cards. For the best sauna service, since this forum is all about sauna reviews, I am sure you will enjoy spending some time in RTFF and get to learn the ropes

[QUOTE=Pramod Aggarwal;1140282]Can you please suggest how far is Rio or 18 sauna from the venetian. Does one get rooms overnight rooms in Rio or famila noblia. Are all the saunas close by to each other.[/QUOTE]Rio and 18 are fairly close to each other but neither is close to the Venetian. The Venetian is, for Macau, a long cab ride away, maybe 10 minutes. You can't really walk.

I was at the Venetian recently and it was 100% free of action, this was on a Saturday night. I might have seen two girls outside the Hard Rock but they disappeared before I could verify. I walked around for about an hour and a half searching, both inside and out, as well as in the area between the Hard Rock and the Venetian. Tourists only.

If you want to monger you should stay on the main island not the strip.

[QUOTE=Samata61; 1126785]Finished my business in mainland China and despite not having a great time at Rio a few days ago, I decided to spend 1 more day in Macau basically to have some Vietnamese pussies.

I had decided to spend the early evening at Darling 1 and then go to Sauna 18 for the rest of the evening.

I booked at the 'Golden Dragon Hotel' since it is very close to Darling 1 and Sauna 18 is in it. Big mistake; I requested a non smoking room with a king size bed but all king size bed rooms were in the smoking section and I really did not want a single bed. Arrived to the room and the safe did not work and they did not have Internet cable or electrical plug; it took ½ an hour to fix the problems. Lunch buffet was terrible but I did not have enough time to go anywhere else but the Japanese restaurant was good. Cost was 800 HKD including all taxes, which is the same as Rio, but Rio is a much better hotel.

I had lunch, slept a little then headed to D1 arriving at 6pm. They had 10 Thai girls. 20 Chinese. 4 China dolls. 5 Russians, and only 2 Vietnamese. They still offer drinks so I ordered a Vodka and sat down looking at the girls and it was quite a sight most of them were7+ with few 9++. It was Tuesday night so they were not busy and I was not pushed or hurried but on the contrary, the Indonesian masmasan who spoke good English encouraged me to take my time while explaining the prices 1518 for 75 minutes or 1888 for China doll. Since I had my sight on Vietnamese, I picked one of the 2 girls who had a million dollar smile, spoke some English, short but very cute with large breasts (Number 300).

I did not want to repeat the experience of Rio so I immediately put 200 MOP on the table and explained that it will be her tip if I am satisfied. She was very shy. 20 years old, and has been there for 1 month or 1 year (I could not understand). She politely refused to kiss, started with a massage, then to the bathtub where she got me really aroused and I came between her large natural tits (large but sagging). We moved to the bed where I took over by kissing her body all over then proceeded to DATY, again she started slowly but in about 10 minutes she got really wet and it was clear from her face expression and she was not faking it and really enjoying herself as much as I was. I've gotten really hard again so I proceeded to fuck her missionary style while allowing her to play with herself till she came while we were DFK. We fucked in all positions till I came then laid in each others arms kissing and fondling for about 5 minutes then back to the bathtub for the final cleaning routine.

I was on Claude 9 and extremely warm so I ordered another Vodka and sat in the saloon watching the girls again while chatting with Indonesian mamasan. Now the Vietnamese were 5 and a new one caught my eyes (Number 301) she was cutter that 300 and appears very playful, cocky, and somewhat bitchy. The Mamasan explained to me that she is great with 100% customer satisfaction while 300 was 50. I was really tiered and could not go again so I thanked her and left around 8:30.

Went back to the hotel, had dinner at the Japanese restaurant (very good) , then tried to sleep but had a hard time doing it because I kept on thinking about the excellent experience but all the traveling and short sleeps took over and I fell asleep.

Woke up around 11pm and after ample thought, I decided to go back to D1 instead of Sauna 18 mainly to have 301.

I was greeted warmly with the Indonesian mamasan again and luckily number 301 was available so I ordered another Vodka and picked her before another punter does. 301 was not pleased and she kept pausing to the other punters. She was arguing with the mamasan while 300 was very sad and was making gun shape with her hands and shooting me. It was very clear that there was friendship, jealousy, and loyalty between the 2 girls. I was really worried that my session will turn into a disaster and after ample thought while sipping on Vodka, consulting with the mamasan, and the 2 girls, I decided to take both of them. I was quoted 3000 for both but was able to negotiate it down to 2500 for 90 minutes. I figured I would have paid that at S18 anyway so why not.

Both girls were very happy and I was ecstatic. We went into the rooms and they proceeded with the massage while DFK (both girls) and it appears that 301 was a real pro, riming, and massaging my balls. They turned me over and 300 commenced BBBJ and I was instantly hard and she wanted to fuck immediately so she put on the condom but she was really tight and dry without DATY so 301 opened another condom took the lubrication from it and proceeded to apply it to 300 then she was able to fit me in and proceeded CG while I was kissing and liking the tits of 301 till I came.

We moved to the bathtub with 300 behind me and 301 in the front and as suspected 301 was a real pro and her technique was way better than 300. She did everything placing my member between her tits, massaging it hard with her pussy, and then she proceeded with deep throat BBBJ. I had to fight hard not to come knowing that If I do the fun will be over and I won't be able to get hard again.

We moved over to the bed where I also took over with a 69 position with 301 while 300 was playing with every available part of my body. I was supper hard and proceeded to fuck CG while 300 was playing with my balls, kissing me, and nibbling on my nipples till I came. We had to hurry to the bathtub in order to finish on time.

300: Looks 7, Smile 1, 000, 000, attitude 9, Service 8, English OK, and supper sweet.

301: Looks 8++, Attitude 8, Service 10, English OK, and supper smart.

All in all it was one of the best experiences I had with 2 girls but the session was too short and I could have easly stayed with these 2 girls for 3 hours.

Special thanks to Osuul who kept on insisting that D1 is the best place in Macau and I have to concur.

Der Tourist: If you have not had your trip to Macau yet, skip all the other places and go to D1, pick 301 who has a tight pussy; she will DFK, Deep throat BBBJ, DATY, and fucks your brains out for 1, 518 which less expensive than Rio and S18 (my humble advice)

Useful information: The girls get 500 MOP per session while the house gets the rest. I was offered to take out any of the girl for an overnight stay for 3, 400 MOP which I believe is very negotiable.

I am on the plane heading to BKK for the final 2 days of Mongering and I hope I won't be disappointed after the great time at D1.[/QUOTE]I've been to D1before and thought it was 1 shot per session. Are 2 shots allowed?

I was lucky enough to spend an unforgettable evening at Sauna 18, located on the sixth floor of the building of Golden Dragon Casino.

This place is top quality and comparable, for pricing and cleaning service, to German FKK. After entering (HK $ 400 price, about € 40) they will deliver you a towel for going to the shower area. After being washed, go to the great central hall where there are small pools with hot and cold water, saunas; if you like, can be washed by some girls, but not for free (it seems to me it's about 10 €). The price of massages, also, is not included. There are distributors of free water, while food buffet and other beverages are extra.

Every half hour, your peace is pleasantly interrupted by the parade of about 80 girls, twenty of which (with the number 800 up) certainly qualify as a stunner. Look carefully at the numbers they wear on their chest:

- Mongolian models et al. : 810 to 899;

- Korean models: 800 to 809;

- Japanese style: 7xx;

- Russia: 3xx;

- Vietnamese: 6xx;

- Chinese: 100 to 299.

The price of the girls varies depending on the number they wear on their chest. The most expensive are, of course, the models, with prices around HK $ 2000 (200 Euros). If you enjoy their service (an hour of body massage, fellatio with ice and hot water alternately, sex in various positions, CIM) , the cost of the sauna (40 €) will be discounted at your departure, so you'll pay only the performance of the girl.

During the parade choose your favorite girl, communicate her number to the man which takes reservations, go to the dressing area (where you'll wear a gold kimono) and follow the signs for going to the bedroom.

Inside the room you will find a small bed with a shower and a bed where, after the body massage, the lady you choose before satisfy your wishes.

I 've choosed a Korean model at 200 euro, the top price category. She provided me a very high performance, and I will remember her as one of the most beautiful women I've ever fucked in my life.

The game is worth it: these girls are among the most beautiful I've ever seen in similar places, the range is remarkable, the price is right and the environment very luxurious and original. Excellent experience, to do at least once in your lifetime.

[QUOTE=Vale64; 1141630]I was lucky enough to spend an unforgettable evening at Sauna 18, located on the sixth floor of the building of Golden Dragon Casino.

[/quote]Thank you for a simple yet very informative report! I will hit Macau in a about two weeks time and this is going to be very useful to me. Also, luckily I will be staying in Golden Dragon hotel so 18 will be literally next door :)

[quote]- Mongolian models et al. : 810 to 899;

- Korean models: 800 to 809;

- Japanese style: 7xx;

- Russia: 3xx;

- Vietnamese: 6xx;

- Chinese: 100 to 299. [/quote]Are those the actual numbers of how the nationalities are distributed? If so I'll have to keep these in mind. Also was there some sort of menu where prices according to number were indicated (if I am not mistaken someone mentioned this before)?

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1133282]All well said and

To complete the information, at Rio, the side services cost around 150/200 MOP (leg massage pedicure, manicure, head massage, ear massage, etc)

At Rio Shangai massage is a session of 90' with HE, the girl will not be naked.

If I well remember costs about 6 or 900 MOP.

The thigh massage (also called deep vein massage) is specifically set to get you a hard on, il will even be massaged but made so you do not come as they want that you spend more money (soap massage, from 1500 to 2000MOP) for that pleasure.

I succeeded a HE booking 3 sessions of thigh massage. At Rio it is in a small room with a reclining armchair.

The teasing of the oil massage is superior.

At Emperor the thigh massage is performed in the main lounge with the hands of the masseuse browsing under the towels. They are even more direct and indulge for about 70% of the time (a session approx lasts 15-20') playing with your didi. Still very careful not to make you come. [/QUOTE]Indeed, all very accurate. Bionicman:

What's been left unsaid so far is:

A good thigh massage would not just make one feel want to come, but also make one feel energised-it's good for health too, just like a good foot massage would do to your health. In Macau, with luck, one can get both (sexual satisfaction and health benefits) from thigh massage.

A thigh massage that does not provide any discernable health benefit is not as good as Japanese prostate massage and is thus little different from HJ. In Japan, a good prostate massage would include massaging your dick and your prostate simultaneously. The girl might be topless with a G-string or completely naked and she would normally lick your nipples too. Some girls or in some places, a blow job with prostate massage is also possible. For me, it's the best HJ and it's better than most of vaginal intercourses.

Once I had a prostate massage in Tokyo and a topless clean, plain-looking Japanese woman about 30 years old wearing a very tiny, transparent g-string barely covering anything at all (completely shaven pussy) began by licking my nipples and gently stroking my dick for several minutes. She then moved down to massage my prostate while alternating between HJ and BJ for a while-she made sure that I couldn't come too soon. I finished with CIM totally at her control. After spiting out, she continued to massaged my prostate very gently again with BJ, I got a hard-on quickly and came in her mouth soon again. I became her regular afterwards and the HJ sessions with her remain my best HJ experiences ever.

[QUOTE=Bluerose;1142477]Once I had a prostate massage in Tokyo and a topless clean, plain-looking Japanese woman about 30 years old wearing a very tiny, transparent g-string barely covering anything at all (completely shaven pussy) began by licking my nipples and gently stroking my dick for several minutes. She then moved down to massage my prostate while alternating between HJ and BJ for a while-she made sure that I couldn't come too soon. I finished with CIM totally at her control. After spiting out, she continued to massaged my prostate very gently again with BJ, I got a hard-on quickly and came in her mouth soon again. I became her regular afterwards and the HJ sessions with her remain my best HJ experiences ever.[/QUOTE]Wow, that's service! J-lady's I assume age must better then the Chinese counterpart (for the majority, based upon my ex's).

Is there a sauna in that hotel? Also, whats the name of Emperor in Chinese ping ing if anyone can help please. I will be there next week for a few days.

PC out

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1140534]MOP is the Macau currency, aka Pataca (comes from their portuguese times) , aka a Macau Dollar.

Its exchange rate is about 100MOP to 97HK$, then do the math. In most establishements it is accounted on 1:1 to the HK $

Hotel bills tend to charge and cash in HK$ (at the exchange rate) rather than MOP, especially when paying with credit cards. For the best sauna service, since this forum is all about sauna reviews, I am sure you will enjoy spending some time in RTFF and get to learn the ropes[/QUOTE]I always change USD or HKD into MOP. Its alittle more bang for the buck and usually walking to the bank to do this results in an extra lunch and dinner as I change about 3-5k each time.

PC out

[QUOTE=Pcpc1688; 1142845]Is there a sauna in that hotel? Also, whats the name of Emperor in Chinese ping ing if anyone can help please. I will be there next week for a few days.

PC out[/QUOTE]Yes, there is a sauna.

Good selection decent facilities.

Great line up. Parade.

Quite a good collections of viets.

RTFF for more

[QUOTE=Pcpc1688; 1142845]Is there a sauna in that hotel? Also, whats the name of Emperor in Chinese ping ing if anyone can help please. I will be there next week for a few days.

PC out[/QUOTE]Emperor is next to Holiday Inn.

Its phone no, is 287 818888, so in case of troubles dial and hand over the phone to your taxi driver.

There is shuttle service from the ferry terminal but does not run very often and in limited hours of the day

[QUOTE=Stinkyfeet;1142770]Wow, that's service! J-lady's I assume age must better then the Chinese counterpart (for the majority, based upon my ex's).[/QUOTE]Older Japanese women tend to provide better services, in part because their market value depreciates drastically as they age wheras in HK, Taiwan and to a lesser extent, China, older women can still fetch good prices as long as they know how to bullshit men and how to dress up.

Young Japanese women, on average, back in the 1990's would provide better services than young Japanese women today and on the other hand, they would normally have rather hairy pussies, unlike today's many well-trimmed or totally shaven ones.

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1142919]Emperor is next to Holiday Inn.

Its phone no, is 287 818888, so in case of troubles dial and hand over the phone to your taxi driver.

There is shuttle service from the ferry terminal but does not run very often and in limited hours of the day[/QUOTE]Whats the Emperor name in Chinese? I will check out the sauna as I will be there LOL.

PC out

[QUOTE=Pcpc1688; 1143390]Whats the Emperor name in Chinese? I will check out the sauna as I will be there LOL.

PC out[/QUOTE]
帝濠酒店

[url]Http://www.emperorhotel.com.mo[/url]

All in Chinese though.

[QUOTE=Danahaste;1141613]I've been to D1before and thought it was 1 shot per session. Are 2 shots allowed?[/QUOTE]Sorry for the delay in responding but I was Costa Rica last week and just back.

I was allowed 2 shots in both sessions and the manager girl did not tell me how many shots before the session and the girls did not say anything.

[QUOTE=Tiger 888; 1143400]&24093; &28640; &37202; &24215;

[url]Http://www.emperorhotel.com.mo[/url]

All in Chinese though. [/QUOTE]thanks, but does anyone know its Chinese name in Ping Ing?

PC out

[QUOTE=Pcpc1688; 1143929]thanks, but does anyone know its Chinese name in Ping Ing?

PC out[/QUOTE]What is Ping Ing? If you mean Pinyin ( dì háo jiǔdiàn ) , that is not of much use as they speak Cantonese here. Then again you would not be understood if you don't know about the tones. So print out the Chinese and show it to the driver.

[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1144232]What is Ping Ing? If you mean Pinyin ( dì háo jiǔdiàn ) , that is not of much use as they speak Cantonese here. Then again you would not be understood if you don't know about the tones. So print out the Chinese and show it to the driver.[/QUOTE]Go it. Di Hao Hotel.

Thanks Tiger.

PC out

[QUOTE=Tiger 888; 1143400]&24093; &28640; &37202; &24215;

[url]Http://www.emperorhotel.com.mo[/url]

All in Chinese though. [/QUOTE]Just FYI for those interested. If you use Google Chrome, it will offer to translate pages in other languages. Sometimes works well, sometimes poorly, sometimes not at all. It worked well for Emperor's website. All you do is go to the URL for the original site, and a bar will appear asking if you want it translated and to what language.

Went there today in the afternoon. Chose the 90 min Viet choice option. Ok girl, alot of fake moans and screaming but she was fun and really had good kegel control. I usually don't come with the hat on but she managed to do it.

Got an thigh massage later with a cute Viet and offered her to come back to hotel later but she wanted 5k hkd, I laughed and said never mind.

Total was 835mop. Stayed for the show and saw a few lookers but I was done for the day.

PC out

[QUOTE=Pcpc1688; 1145709]Went there today in the afternoon. Chose the 90 min Viet choice option. Ok girl, alot of fake moans and screaming but she was fun and really had good kegel control. I usually don't come with the hat on but she managed to do it.

Got an thigh massage later with a cute Viet and offered her to come back to hotel later but she wanted 5k hkd, I laughed and said never mind.

Total was 835mop. Stayed for the show and saw a few lookers but I was done for the day.

PC out[/QUOTE]Next time just tell her that "nam tram" translates into 500, and 5000 is "nam ngan".

[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1145808]Next time just tell her that "nam tram" translates into 500, and 5000 is "nam ngan".[/QUOTE]So Wu bai kwai should do it huh? I think she was playing coy.

nam tram hao ma? lol

PC out

[QUOTE=Der Tourist; 1142350]Thank you for a simple yet very informative report! I will hit Macau in a about two weeks time and this is going to be very useful to me. Also, luckily I will be staying in Golden Dragon hotel so 18 will be literally next door.

Are those the actual numbers of how the nationalities are distributed? If so I'll have to keep these in mind. Also was there some sort of menu where prices according to number were indicated (if I am not mistaken someone mentioned this before)? [/QUOTE]Most of the numbers above 800 are Chinese and above 900 are said to be models hence typically 2000HKD. Anyway spread of rates is not that much 1300 to 2000 HKD

[QUOTE=Pcpc1688; 1145709]Went there today in the afternoon. Chose the 90 min Viet choice option. Ok girl, alot of fake moans and screaming but she was fun and really had good kegel control. I usually don't come with the hat on but she managed to do it.

Got an thigh massage later with a cute Viet and offered her to come back to hotel later but she wanted 5k hkd, I laughed and said never mind.

Total was 835mop. Stayed for the show and saw a few lookers but I was done for the day.

PC out[/QUOTE]835 MOP? That was a deal. I visited Golden early evening and had a one hour session with an Indo. My bill was 1, 170. Was your visit some kind of early bird or manager's choice special?

[QUOTE=Gbartoli;1146968]835 MOP? That was a deal. I visited Golden early evening and had a one hour session with an Indo. My bill was 1, 170. Was your visit some kind of early bird or manager's choice special?[/QUOTE]You just ask for the 710mop Viet management choice offer. The thigh massage was and extra 125mop.

PC out

Darling 2.

On this pass through Macau I decided to try Darling 2 (D2).

I would say the main 'problem' with D2 is its location. I had written down the address as found here and on their website. I showed that to the concierge at my hotel and asked him to write it in Chinese for the taxi driver.

He said he could not read the Portuguese name (the address is on a street with a Portuguese name) so he couldn't help. He asked for the English name. Of course there is no English name.

I finally found the street on a map and he was able to read the Chinese name and then write that down for me. And, I was off.

As soon as you enter D2 you are confronted with the 'fishbowl' just past the counter – you can't miss it. It was 6:00 pm and there were about 12 girls sitting on a stair-step arrangement so you can get a good view of each one.

The mama explained that it was 1088 MOP for 90 minutes. She asked me to pick. When I hesitated, she offered that #118 would be good. I agreed and she directed me to the counter to pay in advance. Once that was done the girl accompanied me upstairs to the room.

#118 was a cute Thai girl from Pattaya. She started filling the large tub and then came back to undress me. Of course there were the typical comments about size, etc. She gave me a brief leg massage and then led me to the tub.

In the tub she cleaned me from neck to toe. When she was finished she rubbed my feet on her tits, did a rub on my legs with her pussy, etc. You've heard it before. She then went to work on little brother with a very nice BBBJ. She asked if I wanted to be finished off there or on the bed and I indicated the bed.

She toweled me off and sent me to the bed where she joined me. She was pretty playful and it was nice that she spoke English. She gave me another BBBJ and then I took over and we had a DATY session. She really got into it and left a big spot on the bed. It was a lot of fun.

Then it was my turn with cowgirl followed by me finishing up in mish.

We cuddled and talked for the rest of the session. She offered to join me at my hotel when she got off work at 4:00 but I declined. She is heading back to Pattaya in 5 days as she 'can't make any money' in Macau.

When the time is getting close to being up, the intercom starts giving warnings. We dressed and headed downstairs. I let the mommy know that she had done a great job.

My next problem was getting back to Macau proper. I waited out front for 25 minutes but no taxi came by (this was about 7:30 pm). The kid outside the door told me I might have a better chance by walking a couple blocks to a big intersection. I did that and had to wait another 25 minutes before snagging a taxi.

So, other than getting to and back from D2, it was a great experience!

[QUOTE=Red Rider; 1148821]. My next problem was getting back to Macau proper. I waited out front for 25 minutes but no taxi came by (this was about 7:30 pm). The kid outside the door told me I might have a better chance by walking a couple blocks to a big intersection. I did that and had to wait another 25 minutes before snagging a taxi.

So, other than getting to and back from D2, it was a great experience! [/QUOTE]I had a very similar experience to yours while on a recent visit to D2 as well, only my choice, also with the help of the Mamasan, was Dai Viet. And you are correct to point out taxis are hard to come by in that neighborhood. Knowing how long a visit to D2 takes, I suggest asking your cabbie to return at the proper hour, and there will be a few extra 'patacas' in it for him. Works like a charm every time and eliminates the lengthy wait for a random cab.

[QUOTE=Red Rider; 1148821]My next problem was getting back to Macau proper. I waited out front for 25 minutes but no taxi came by (this was about 7:30 pm). The kid outside the door told me I might have a better chance by walking a couple blocks to a big intersection. I did that and had to wait another 25 minutes before snagging a taxi.

So, other than getting to and back from D2, it was a great experience! [/QUOTE]Get a map before going. It is a nice and less than 30 minutes walk to the ferry leading you past the Kun Lam Temple on Avenida do Cel. Mesquita and along the water reservoir.

"Get a map before going. It is a nice and less than 30 minutes walk to the ferry leading you past the Kun Lam Temple on Avenida do Cel. Mesquita and along the water reservoir."

I had a map, but it is quite a ways and I didn't want to walk that at night (not knowing how safe the area is). I also wanted to save my "energy" for the activities!

If you are looking for D2, the attached photo is of the sign that hangs out over the street. You can't miss it!

[QUOTE=Red Rider; 1149019- I didn't want to walk that at night (not knowing how safe the area is).. [/QUOTE] By my own expereience, looks Macau is a pretty much safe place to walk at any time during the night.

True that lights are not strong and that here and there one might see small groups of local hanging around.

But it is not like in the movies (or in cities with substantial crime ratio) where 2-3 people hanging aroudn are criminals wiating for their victims. I think this applies, in general and still not as a 100% rule, in Asia.

Crime is more performed as organized crime.

Maybe somebody can elaborate better, whether I am right or not.

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1149053]By my own expereience, looks Macau is a pretty much safe place to walk at any time during the night.

True that lights are not strong and that here and there one might see small groups of local hanging around.

But it is not like in the movies (or in cities with substantial crime ratio) where 2-3 people hanging aroudn are criminals wiating for their victims. I think this applies, in general and still not as a 100% rule, in Asia.

Crime is more performed as organized crime.

Maybe somebody can elaborate better, whether I am right or not. [/QUOTE]Macau is very save. I have been to macao 6 or 7 times. Walking around everywhere, even half or fully drunk. Never had trouble or heard of it. Locals hanging out outside is normal in the early night. Talking, playing card etc. Or younger people getting ready to go to a club. This is not manila. Crime in macao and hongkong is run by the triads and tourists and are getting robbed is bad for bussiness.

Anyway from October to March I usualy walk after that its getting too hot so I usually take a taxi. Darling 2 is very much known and the drivers usually know it. Its about 15 minutes from lisboa by foot. I recommed donwloading a map on your cell phone, thats what I did in the begining. (ovi maps)

[QUOTE=Osuul;1149134]Anyway from October to March I usualy walk after that its getting too hot so I usually take a taxi. Darling 2 is very much known and the drivers usually know it. Its about 15 minutes from lisboa by foot. I recommed donwloading a map on your cell phone, thats what I did in the begining. (ovi maps)[/QUOTE]Darling 2 15 mins from Lisboa by foot? I wouldn't want to walk with you if you are that fast. I believe you can easily double the time as it is way longer than from the ferry terminal.

I agree, walking in the hot season is no fun. Safety is no issue at all at any given time.

[QUOTE=Tiger 888; 1149242]Darling 2 15 mins from Lisboa by foot? I wouldn't want to walk with you if you are that fast. I believe you can easily double the time as it is way longer than from the ferry terminal.

I agree, walking in the hot season is no fun. Safety is no issue at all at any given time. [/QUOTE]Well, another 3 weeks and I can measure the time.

I did the ferry package on this trip and did the Vietnamese picked by the house. I did this on a visit a few weeks prior and ended up upgrading to a Indo chick there and figured that I could do the same this time. This time I was there for the show and I was watching to see what the Vietnamese girls looked like. There were three of them and all three were very doable. So after several massages I tell the manager that I would like my lady now. After a few minutes a girl comes and takes me to the room.

The light is already dim in the room and the Viet chick has dyed hair, a blondish tint. She also has these teeth which look just like a horses, huge, kind of sticking out and yellowish. I averted my eyes when I saw them as it was so off putting. This chick was not one of the ones that was strutting around for the show. Every time she would make an utterance she would cover her mouth with her hand. However the service was good and she did some very fun stuff, but those teeth. After we finished we sort of hung out a bit in the room and except for the teeth she seemed pleasant if maybe just a bit mentally damaged.

I liked the Golden. The Vietnamese girls in the lounge area were all fun and the extras were all reasonably priced. I wish I would have had one of the girls offer to go home with me, maybe not for 5K but if much less I would have gone for it.

Hi Everyone.

Next week I'll be in Macau for a few days on trip. Unfortunately the family is coming along so no chance of sneaking out during the day. However I'm sure when the kids and wifey are in bed I can always excuse myself to go out to play at the casino for a while. Stayin at the Venetian.

Just wanted to ask if the sauna's are open till late. Midnight or later and what would be a nice option near Venetian.

I've read that you can find a quicky at Lisbaoin the girls room. But since I might get just 1 chance this time I would love to experience the Sauna offerings rather than a wham-bam action.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Travelforfun; 1151529]Hi Everyone.

Next week I'll be in Macau for a few days on trip. Unfortunately the family is coming along so no chance of sneaking out during the day. However I'm sure when the kids and wifey are in bed I can always excuse myself to go out to play at the casino for a while. Stayin at the Venetian.

Just wanted to ask if the sauna's are open till late. Midnight or later and what would be a nice option near Venetian.

I've read that you can find a quicky at Lisbaoin the girls room. But since I might get just 1 chance this time I would love to experience the Sauna offerings rather than a wham-bam action.

Thanks in advance. [/QUOTE]Saunas are opened all night long. After midnight they get a little bit less busy.

Account at least 2hrs for a sauna as even if you can do a wham-bam, you want to enjoy the atmosphere a bit and choose your girl during a parade.

I am sure that if asked, the manager wil get you a girl of the model type (high price) even if off parade time.

Ora a cheaper option with a "can't chose the girl" option.

[QUOTE=Travelforfun; 1151529]Hi Everyone.

Next week I'll be in Macau for a few days on trip. Unfortunately the family is coming along so no chance of sneaking out during the day. However I'm sure when the kids and wifey are in bed I can always excuse myself to go out to play at the casino for a while. Stayin at the Venetian.

Just wanted to ask if the sauna's are open till late. Midnight or later and what would be a nice option near Venetian.

I've read that you can find a quicky at Lisbaoin the girls room. But since I might get just 1 chance this time I would love to experience the Sauna offerings rather than a wham-bam action.

Thanks in advance. [/QUOTE]The ventian is on the taipa island not macao itself. There are also options but far less then in the "old" macao.

A taxi can take you to darling 1 in about 15 to 20 minutes.

You go in choose one of the 40 to 60 girls. Undress in the room. First a soapie, with BBBJ and massage Then to the bed for BBBJ and FS.

90 minutes later you are out and happy. Best quick fix as I reported before. Last time I was there is was 1588 if I remember correctly. Go a little further to darling 2 you get the same for 1088 with less choice but still the same.

Fun.

[QUOTE=Osuul; 1151538]The ventian is on the taipa island not macao itself. There are also options but far less then in the "old" macao.

A taxi can take you to darling 1 in about 15 to 20 minutes.

You go in choose one of the 40 to 60 girls. Undress in the room. First a soapie, with BBBJ and massage Then to the bed for BBBJ and FS.

90 minutes later you are out and happy. Best quick fix as I reported before. Last time I was there is was 1588 if I remember correctly. Go a little further to darling 2 you get the same for 1088 with less choice but still the same.

Fun. [/QUOTE]Thanks so much mate. I guess I can manage a 3 hr vanish act. But the time question remains unanswered. Will they be open say Midnight or late?

Also do the Taxi guys usually know D1 or D2 sauna's? I can't seem to find any websites for these clubs in macau to note down the address.

[QUOTE=Travelforfun; 1151542]Thanks so much mate. I guess I can manage a 3 hr vanish act. But the time question remains unanswered. Will they be open say Midnight or late?

Also do the Taxi guys usually know D1 or D2 sauna's? I can't seem to find any websites for these clubs in macau to note down the address. [/QUOTE]Sauna are open 24hrs. Obviously in the early hrs of the morning like from 7am. You might expect a bit less selection.

But I am sure taht by that time you will be back in bed with a happy smile and good memories.

if you look at the second pic. go into the right entrance after about 20 meters you will find an elevator on the right. darling is on the 2nd floor. you could also print the first pic and show it to the taxi driver as the english adresse will not mean anything to most of them, but darling 1 is a little bit of a tourist trap so most know it. i also posted a google map a while back with most places if that helps.

btw before 2 pm you get 200 hk off the normal price but there will be only about 10-15 viet girls. at about 4 pm you will have about 30 and peek hours are i would say between 10 pm and 2 am with about 50 to 60 girls. (thai, viet and chinese; a few russians sometimes).

[url]http://www.bordelloguide.com/?p=995[/url]

darling 1.

jai alai casino. 2. floor.

av ouv arriaga 89.

macau

btw this was the first hit when i googled darling 1 macao, so there are websites

I had been to D1 like 4yrs ago, haven't been since.

This time I chose a petite cute Chinese gal (daytime only had about 15 Chinese. 10 thai. 2 models).

However. Service was a bit lacking. I finished banging her about 45min in, and started to nap, but she woke me and seemed to want to prep to leave. Odd. I thought Darlings gals were supposed to fill the full 90min w / a massage or cuddletime, at least thats how it was when I had a thai gal last time (years ago). Note the gal had some armpit hair which is a huge turnoff. I think Sauna's like 18 / Rio / etc tend to be more consistent about grooming and service?

BTW, Lisboa is now standard 1, 000hkd (up from 800 as of ChineseNewYear). The strong RMB / CNY is choking USD / HKD with inflation for everything including real estate and women. USD is screwed. I expect prices are only going higher as everyone feels RMB / CNY is still undervalued by a large % due to the peg.

[QUOTE=Lattelatte; 1152069]I had been to D1 like 4yrs ago, haven't been since.

This time I chose a petite cute Chinese gal (daytime only had about 15 Chinese. 10 thai. 2 models).

However. Service was a bit lacking. I finished banging her about 45min in, and started to nap, but she woke me and seemed to want to prep to leave. Odd. I thought Darlings gals were supposed to fill the full 90min w / a massage or cuddletime, at least thats how it was when I had a thai gal last time (years ago). Note the gal had some armpit hair which is a huge turnoff. I think Sauna's like 18 / Rio / etc tend to be more consistent about grooming and service?

BTW, Lisboa is now standard 1, 000hkd (up from 800 as of ChineseNewYear). The strong RMB / CNY is choking USD / HKD with inflation for everything including real estate and women. USD is screwed. I expect prices are only going higher as everyone feels RMB / CNY is still undervalued by a large % due to the peg. [/QUOTE]Strange, Darling one was always the one that had the most consistent service for me.

Well 6 more days and I can test again as I just booked a HK + Macao trip. Me so happy!

Is it mandatory to choose a girl once you enter the club. Just asking incase I don't like the options available at the given point can you just walk away after maybe taking a foot massage / Body scrub.

If so what are the charges? Is there a admission fees in that case

Yepp, no girl, you pay admission fee, usually around 150-400 hkd depending the location. This fee is waived if you have a girl.

I doubt that you will not like the options available, haha.

It will be too hard to choose.

Have fun.

Thomas Jefferson.

[QUOTE=Travelforfun; 1152395]Is it mandatory to choose a girl once you enter the club. Just asking incase I don't like the options available at the given point can you just walk away after maybe taking a foot massage / Body scrub.

If so what are the charges? Is there a admission fees in that case[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Travelforfun; 1152395]Is it mandatory to choose a girl once you enter the club. Just asking incase I don't like the options available at the given point can you just walk away after maybe taking a foot massage / Body scrub.

If so what are the charges? Is there a admission fees in that case[/QUOTE]Minium charge is 200. 400.

If you pick something for 600 or more. Even if its a shanghai massage the minimum charge will be waived.

[QUOTE=Osuul; 1152140]Strange, Darling one was always the one that had the most consistent service for me.

Well 6 more days and I can test again as I just booked a HK + Macao trip. Me so happy! [/QUOTE]Are you staying weekend or weekdays? I found the action to be much better during the weekdays since the number of the girls is basically the same but much less competition from the Chinese mongers who appear to descend on Macau during the weekend.

I am trying to get there in the next 2-3 weeks so I will be looking forward for your report.

Good Luck and happy mongering.

[QUOTE=Samata61; 1152702]Are you staying weekend or weekdays? I found the action to be much better during the weekdays since the number of the girls is basically the same but much less competition from the Chinese mongers who appear to descend on Macau during the weekend.

I am trying to get there in the next 2-3 weeks so I will be looking forward for your report.

Good Luck and happy mongering. [/QUOTE]Be biggest line ups are on weekends. I was a little disappointed when I went to Familia noble during the week and they didn't have the showtime thing were before you choose the girls take turns on you lapdancing.

So there is definatly more action on weekends but since there are also less travelers there it almost evens out.

My observation is that some Chinese girls are gone. Propably thoese that stay close to the border.

All other nationalities are still there.

Some of the discos will also close for a day during the week. So a little less possibilities there too.

All in all still way more then anyone can handle. Since we all have budget limits, which I tend to ignore sometimes.

Which one time cost me around 20000 HK$ on a weeked but with 9 pops in about 36 hours from Friday night to Sunday noon.

Luckly I have found cheaper ways in macau and don't visit the RIO and Sauna 18 anymore.

[QUOTE=Osuul; 1152819]Be biggest line ups are on weekends. I was a little disappointed when I went to Familia noble during the week and they didn't have the showtime thing were before you choose the girls take turns on you lapdancing.

So there is definatly more action on weekends but since there are also less travelers there it almost evens out.

My observation is that some Chinese girls are gone. Propably thoese that stay close to the border.

All other nationalities are still there.

Some of the discos will also close for a day during the week. So a little less possibilities there too.

All in all still way more then anyone can handle. Since we all have budget limits, which I tend to ignore sometimes.

Which one time cost me around 20000 HK$ on a weeked but with 9 pops in about 36 hours from Friday night to Sunday noon.

Luckly I have found cheaper ways in macau and don't visit the RIO and Sauna 18 anymore. [/QUOTE]Ohhh, and this time I will stay in macao from 15 to 20 of may. Befor that I will be in HK from 11 to 15.

I was think back a forth were to spent the weekend. Finaly I decided to stay in HK since I have spent 4 weekends in.

Macao already but never one on HK.

This time

1. I will meet my thai girl again (hope she is there) for some nice GFE in my hotel room. I know her for a year now form darling 1. If she is there I will cancel some of points 2 to 5. If not I will hunt for some new Phone no.

2. Try to pull some PI and Indo girl from the bars and discos.

3. Get the "hot spot" sauna off my bucket list.

4. Pamper myself in Famila noble or golden sauna.

5. Maybe go for an adventure to the inner harbor area for the local brothels

6. Relax at the poker table.

7. Eat from the best food selection I ever came across

[QUOTE=Thomas Jefferson; 1152433]Yepp, no girl, you pay admission fee, usually around 150-400 hkd depending the location. This fee is waived if you have a girl.

I doubt that you will not like the options available, haha.

It will be too hard to choose.

Have fun.

Thomas Jefferson. [/QUOTE]Actually I had that happen to me in the Boss sauna (not big boss sauna).

I was there early at around 2 pm and there were only 4 girls.

A Chinese guy near to me had a line up and took one (which I could understand since they were all 2s and 3s in my book). So I waited, eat, watched movies, go to the sauna. At 4 pm the line up was a few more. Lucky for me there was a 7isch viet then which did not disappoint me in the room.

This is the danger if go to the smaller less known places. On the other hand is was only 900 something. So the damage is also not so big.

[QUOTE=Osuul; 1152827]Ohhh, and this time I will stay in macao from 15 to 20 of may. Befor that I will be in HK from 11 to 15.

I was think back a forth were to spent the weekend. Finaly I decided to stay in HK since I have spent 4 weekends in.

Macao already but never one on HK. [/QUOTE]Where do you usually stay in Macau?

[QUOTE=Samata61;1153026]Where do you usually stay in Macau?[/QUOTE]I stay in the golden dragon hotel again. Been there a few times already.

For 650 HK its a good deal. Rooms are big and clean. Only Problem there is only one or two english speaking tv channels if you want to relax a little in your hotel room.

I prefer RIO or the old lisboa when they have the same rates as golden dragon. Rio has a big bed room and a very big bath room. Lisboa in right in the middle of the action but the room is a little small.

I also stayed in the beverly hotel one time. Rooms are same as golden dragon but its 200 MOP more expensive since its closer to the action.

Best is the royal hotel. Same quality as RIO but a little far from the main area (speaking 10 minutes by foot).

Strangest hotel I ever stayed in was a cheap inner habor hotel. It was a little dirty but only 300 MOP per night.

First floor was actually a brothel with mainland girls for 200. 300 RMB per 30 minutes which I discoverd when I came back drunk one night and took the stairs for some reason.

Just make sure took book as early as possible. Then you can get good hotels at around 600 HK$ on weekdays and 800 on weekends.

If price is no concern for you then the sky is the limit. Something like MGM is 2500 HK$ per night but I will not pay that much in a hotel where only the bed is important for me.

Had a quick question. I know slot of the are ice is BBBJ. How clean are the girls?

I know in Tijuana the places are regulated and the girls are checked up regularly and need their medical card in orde to work.

Does Macau have regulations like this where the girls get checked up?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Osuul; 1153047]I stay in the golden dragon hotel again. Been there a few times already.

For 650 HK its a good deal. Rooms are big and clean. Only Problem there is only one or two english speaking tv channels if you want to relax a little in your hotel room.

I prefer RIO or the old lisboa when they have the same rates as golden dragon. Rio has a big bed room and a very big bath room. Lisboa in right in the middle of the action but the room is a little small.

I also stayed in the beverly hotel one time. Rooms are same as golden dragon but its 200 MOP more expensive since its closer to the action.

Best is the royal hotel. Same quality as RIO but a little far from the main area (speaking 10 minutes by foot).

Strangest hotel I ever stayed in was a cheap inner habor hotel. It was a little dirty but only 300 MOP per night.

First floor was actually a brothel with mainland girls for 200. 300 RMB per 30 minutes which I discoverd when I came back drunk one night and took the stairs for some reason.

Just make sure took book as early as possible. Then you can get good hotels at around 600 HK$ on weekdays and 800 on weekends.

If price is no concern for you then the sky is the limit. Something like MGM is 2500 HK$ per night but I will not pay that much in a hotel where only the bed is important for me. [/QUOTE]I have stayed at both Rio and Golden Dragon and felt that RIO is way better for about the same price.

Golden Dragon only has smoking king size room and I don't smoke; the smell of the room was terrible. I am no an export on Macau like you so I ate at the GD hotel buffet once and it was miserable.

I am considering staying at the MGM and the room rates are around 1700 HKD weekdays with no availability on weekend all year. IMHO it might be worth it.

[QUOTE=Samata61; 1153390]I have stayed at both Rio and Golden Dragon and felt that RIO is way better for about the same price.

Golden Dragon only has smoking king size room and I don't smoke; the smell of the room was terrible. I am no an export on Macau like you so I ate at the GD hotel buffet once and it was miserable.

I am considering staying at the MGM and the room rates are around 1700 HKD weekdays with no availability on weekend all year. IMHO it might be worth it. [/QUOTE]Yes RIO is definatly better, but this time it was 200 something more then the GD.

For breakfast. I passed too. I am not staying in macao and eat a continental breakfast.

I usualy wait for lunch and then eat at the small thai restaurants in the side streets close to the downtown area.

(2 streets west from the royal hotel)

Best food I have ever eaten.

[QUOTE=Rubberband Man; 1153305]Had a quick question. I know slot of the are ice is BBBJ. How clean are the girls?

I know in Tijuana the places are regulated and the girls are checked up regularly and need their medical card in orde to work.

Does Macau have regulations like this where the girls get checked up?

Thanks[/QUOTE]I am prtty sure they are checked, but don't have a proof. Lots of girl stay in the sauna for quote some months and / or are rotated with other places (as some saunas / hotels belog to the same group).

They are also super careful on cleaning you well before the BBBJ.

[QUOTE=Samata61; 1153390]I have stayed at both Rio and Golden Dragon and felt that RIO is way better for about the same price.

Golden Dragon only has smoking king size room and I don't smoke; the smell of the room was terrible. I am no an export on Macau like you so I ate at the GD hotel buffet once and it was miserable.

I am considering staying at the MGM and the room rates are around 1700 HKD weekdays with no availability on weekend all year. IMHO it might be worth it. [/QUOTE]If you refer to the breakfast buffet, I trust you agree that the Rio one is not much rich.

I have been at the Emperor and it sucks too.

The A la Carte menu is not much better.

For whatever reason the food at the hotel sucks, according to my opinion, so better go to some outside restaurant (and there are many, from portuguese, based ot steak houses.)

In a pinch the Sauna food is better!

Although I would have loved to try the more expensive and better sauna's that Macau has to offer but was on a tight leash and with just a few hrs to go in and out I decided to try the Golden Sauna.

Its right opposite the Fortuna Hotel, on the 2nd floor of the building. When I walked in I was explained in proper english the menu on offer. Since I was in macau decided to gamble on the house choice girl for HK$ 789 for 90 Min.

Masasge, Shower and 2 sex sessions.

After putting the clothes in a locker right in front of the reception desk with 3 fully clothed girls lookin over you get a towel and slipper to take a shower or spend some time in their Jacuzzi. Skipped the Jacuzzi and after the shower walked straight in where 4-5 other Chinese men were seated and were surrounded by girls chit chatting. Another menu is served which gives the option of Massage Oil for HK$79, Vibrating Cock Ring and Condom for $129 (I think) etc. Did'nt want any so they led me to this rather small but clean room. The girl was waiting at the door. I was not dissapointed. Ok so I did'nt hit the Jackpot but the girls was young with rather big tits and a slim body. Long flowing hair to go along made her look rather attractive in the dim lights.

Was greeted with a smile inside and the girl proceed to take my robe off and signaled me to the bed. I thought it was strange because I expected the shower first. But then she started the massage. AMAZING is the only word tht comes to mind. She must have been a pro at it and did a fab job on the back and the tired feet.

20-25 min later she asked me to walk into the shower area. There was a seat inside which she washed properly before asking me to sit in and then soaped me all over from head to toe. Then the back with a little "ball play" and the vigorous "cock" wash.

After drying me off. She showered herself as I watched and then came to bed. The fun started with a little seduction act of nipple biting, breast massage and finally a CBJ. A few positions and finally with a lot of grunting and panting the first round was over. The bath act was repeated and so was the sex part. It was almost 80 min up and we just sat there trying to talk in hand signals. She did'nt speak any english and I don't speak a word of Cantonese. Was funny and relaxing at the same time.

Overall $800 (Tipped the change) well spent. I just hoped I was a little more lucky at the Roulette Table though.

This is my maiden report. Please bear with any mistakes.

Was in Macau for 2 days. Stayed at the golden dragon hotel. Previously I heard a lot about 18 sauna from ISG forum. So I thought to give it a try.

Went to the sauna at 10. 30. Being a weekday it was not that busy, still there were around 25 guys inside. After keeping all my valuables in the locker, went straight to washroom and took a good shower. At around 10. 40 the alarm sounded for the parade of girls. Goodness me. There were around 60+ girls of various descents (Chinese, russians, usbeks, vietnamese and many more) selected a Chinese girl and informed the manager her chest no:.

Then proceeded to the common room where I got an excellent foot massage for 50 yuan and had 2 beers both on the house. The manager came and showed me the way to the massage room. Room was quite small with a shower cum massage table and a small bed. He Chinese girl was waiting for me in the room. She knew little English, and so all the communication was basically by hand signals. She gave me the best nuru massage I ever had in my life, and it was soo good that I had to stop her occasionally to catch my breath. After the wash-up proceeded to the bed for what was an average session. She was rushing somewhat and I was not able to communicate with her to slow her down. Tried only two positions.

Will definitely visit again and will try a Russian chick next time.

Total damage 2050 yuan.

My favorite hotels:

Ultra high end: Wynn, Grand Lisboa ($2000hkg+)

Mid high: Hard Rock ($1200hkg+)

Mid: Lisboa, Grand Emperor ($900hkg+)

Lisboa is a great deal, great location and free internet and snacks / drinks in room. I am shocked hotels like Holiday Inn charge for internet (like 200+) when the room itself is only like 700!

High end I have tried most (MGM, Mandarin, Venetian, the new Galaxy, etc). Most are about the same, only one that really stands out is Wynn.

Hard Rock is my favorite. Has a nice pool to relax at. Taipa side / location sucks at times.

[QUOTE=Osuul;1153047]If price is no concern for you then the sky is the limit. Something like MGM is 2500 HK$ per night but I will not pay that much in a hotel where only the bed is important for me.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Coconaka;1159931]...Total damage 2050 yuan.[/QUOTE]You paid in Yuan? Then you probably overpaid by 25% The Currency in Macau is Patacas (MOP) and they most likely charge 1 RMB (1.24 MOP) = 1 (1.03 MOP) HK$ = 1 MOP

I figured, try everything once, now she was truly beautiful, spoke no English, appeared to be enjoying herself during sex, but no body body massage in the shower, a short iced BBBJ and then missionary and doggy. Nice but definitely not worth it compared to the cheaper girls. Note to self: do not repeat the model experience.

Met #133, a very pretty young (18) Chinese girl, who was introduced by the lady doing the "thigh massage" (I. E. Masturbating customers in between sessions."Lizhe" or somethig like that has worked at the sauna for 3 months.

I was advised the charge would be 1400 MOP for 1 hour, body body, fire and ice BBBJ, MPOS and even though she was too tight for a non-Asian format she did not use that as an excuse to not perform, rather she tried to accomodate, hence the multiple positions. Rest of the hour was spent cuddling, before I finished the night in the "bedrooms" of sauna 18, an interesting and rather pleasant experience of communautary sleeping.

In fact spending the night at the sauna has always been my first choice while in Macau for a day.

Visit to Macau.

6th June.

On a recent trip to Hong Kong, on the second day concluded business meeting earlier than expected, thought to taking a ferry ride to Macau, a return visit after 2. 5years, off to hotel change into more casual jeans and t-shirt and dash to ShaunTok ferry terminal, Pondered for a while trying to decide between Rio and East SPA final settled for the east spa, as I had a good time there during the last visit.

Bought the 1800- package, off to the ferry ride and arrived in Macau at 7:15pm, picked up by the staff and was at the spa by 7:30pm, welcomed by a smiling Indonesian lady in business suite who takes the Voucher and passes me on to the locker lady, who was a 9/10, very pretty, she helps me undress and stow away all my clothing, couldn't resist asking her what time she finishes work – her response '9pm – why you want to go disco with me' yes 'ok after 11 am call me I put my phone number in your pant pocket OK' she goes to the reception and return with a piece of paper, then she leads me to the shower area by hand, I remember the last time the locker lady gave a towel to wrap around and then proceed to the shower area, but this time she just leads me there completely naked and stands me in front of five ladies and a few punters and asks me to chose a lady for the shower and she leaves.

I see one very petite lady smiling, so chose the and she take me to the shower stalls, she doesn't join in the shower but soaps me and makes sure the little bro is clean and also inserts an finger in the crack and cleans the hole. Then when make me site on the stool and gives a one min BJ and goes of to clean her mouth and I continue to shower, comes back and sees I have no Towel fetches a towel for me dries me off and asks 'Pool' OK, she just puts the towel on the towel holder ring at the shower stall and walks me to the warm pool, removes her bikini and joins me in the pool. 20 mins of fun in the pool, with a lot of groping, pussy rubbing against the little bro, finger in her pussy etc. At the end of 20 she asks if I need another 20 mins, I say no as I don't want to miss the show. OK you change, I say shower before I change pool water no good. OK she leads me to the shower stall – again a naked parade, shower me this time joining in the shower, two other guys showering in the opposite stalls, gets a towel dry me off and wraps the towel around my wait, after about 45 mins from arrival finally I have a towel to cover my modesty! Change and Into the waiting Lounge.

Show starts at 9, and this was a 30 sec BJ show, which has been reported here many times, I won't go thru it and make this report very long and boring. After the show chose a very pretty lady 8/10 21 yrs from Sichuan, comes with a menu to mark 6 optional things to do during the massage, I don't remember what I marked, but quite a few things to do with the tounge and the ass hole. To the room, shower, fire and ice BJ, body licking, be to be massage, deep AR, then all the four and more rimming with a piece of ice in the mouth, start with cowgirl and then quite a few positions and finish off in missionary, phone rings off to shower and back to the lounge.

Sitting in the Lounge, approached by quite a ladies offering different services, the only cute lady in this crowd of service ladies come and offers foot massage, I mention thigh massage she says OK, leads me to a separate room, not exactly a room, a small cubical with a door and a round glass on the door, a sofa similar to the sofa / chair in the lounge waiting area, with a towel covering the sofa, and a folded towel on the sofa, a I'm about to site she says one min, takes the folded to off the chair and tries to undo the string on the robe, I thought she is trying to remove it and take it off myself, she says no only undo but says OK takes the shirt and hangs over the door covering the glass, I sit and lean back on the chair, she pulls off my shorts and covers me with the towel and starts with the thigh massage and in less then one min she take off the towel folds it and puts it off and with a lot of oil starts to massage the little bro, it was amazing she would bring it to the brink and then cool off again, try to run my hands into her shirt giggles and moves away, end of 20 mins and the phone rings when asks extend by 20mins more, 'OK but you same like me no cloths ok' had to make her understand with some sign language which she understood. She thinks for a few secs smiles picks up the phone speaks in chine's and puts back the phone, comes back and tries to start the massage again and I mention cloths off first please and pull at her pants, wipes her hands with tissue and she undress, very nice figure and a tight body, sits next to me and starts the massage again 90% of the times to the little bro, pull her close to me play around with easy access but doesn't allow a finger inside and I don't insist, asks me to lift and fold my legs and start to massage and finger the prostate region and just a few mins before the end of time she brings me to climax and surprisingly burst a lot a load, very relaxing experience. Dresses goes out and comes back with a hot towel and cleans and after signing the slip back to the lounge area.

The manager asks me to upgrade my package, I said let me think and just rest in the lounge area and its show time. This time no 30 sec BJ, just a brief HJ at the end of the show. I think they have different show themes at different hours of the night. As I had to be back in Hongkong and a flight to catch early in morning, just walk to the locker room, change and pay the bill – 860- apart from the package voucher, it was itemized bill but I don't remember the price for each service.

Next the morning at the airport, when I try to pull my boarding card for the jeans pocket I get hold of a Piece of paper with a phone number and name of the locker girl, too late. Always there is a next time

Does anybody know where I can get old photos of the technicians before 141macao got taken over by nightlife141? Looking for photos of "erica" but her real stagename goes by nana

On my recent sightseeing tour in China and SE Asia I dropped in Macau for a night. Having obtained some info and feedback from other ISG members I decided to try 18 Sauna as one of "the" main places for entertainment in Macau.

Upon entering the place I was greeted by some staff who helped me to change, get familiar with the place and see the girls. It was a Saturday evening (about 20. 00) and the place was about to get busy. There were quite a few girls in the main hall (or whatever it is called) and some were very beautiful (although there were quite many average looking ones). One or two European girls. For some reason one of them (a hottie, albeit a too tall for my taste) kept staring at me. Maybe because I was the only non-Asian there or maybe she somehow suspected I may be from a proximate geographical area as herself (which may bee true). There also was one African girl but can't remember how good she was. I just didn't look much at non-Asian girls there.

After a good look I decided to go for a very slim and relatively short (I. E. Not a 'model' type. I think the only defining feature of the so-called 'models' is that they are taller. Some of them were not pretty at all. Not to me anyway). She had beautiful face although not a 'doll' type but rather a 'sexy s*ut'. Anyhow, she was freakin hot and someone I would love to bang in all possible ways. Her number was 180.

So I chose her and was guided to a private room which didn't look anything special. Just an ordinary room for 'massage'. Similar to the 'Hi-end' massage places in Bangkok. She came in minutes later and we went through, what I assume, is a regular routine: massage, BBBJ with mouthwash and hot tea, etc. Then on to the bed. This is where the least exciting bit starts. No more BBBJ, no DATY, no rimming, no DFK, even no fingering, no CIM / COM and not even COB (although it happened in the end of which she wasn't too happy). Pretty much nothing except of ordinary sex in missionary and doggie.

She said she was 20 from somewhere near Chongqing. Her English seemed very good (not something I necessarily appreciate in such situations) and she had a bit of an attitude. Not strictly being a * but you could see she's not going to engage into anything more than her routine stuff and would refuse anyting more than that.

Knowing that I am not the most unappealing and unattractive person in the world in my mid 20's I would guess that is just her ordinary attitude to the job. Perhaps I was slightly less lucky than I could have been choosing the girl (after all you can't tell what she's going to be like by just looking at her) but I guess those who said that it was not worth it were right. I don't think I am going to go to similar "top" places again and instead will try some other locations which were commonly recommended by some ISG forumers. Anyway, it's good to try and know what to expect so overall I am happy I did it.

My evaluation:

Face: 8/10.

Body: 9/10.

Service: 3. 5/10 (note, the 'routine' stuff including massage hot&cold BBBJ and licking all over body may seem something very exciting to some but to me it was plain boring and something I was not interested in. I am much more into things like DFK, rimming, DATY, cim / cof, facesitting, etc.)

Price: HK$1700

[QUOTE=Der Tourist; 1172318]On my recent sightseeing tour in China and SE Asia I dropped in Macau for a night. Having obtained some info and feedback from other ISG members I decided to try 18 Sauna as one of "the" main places for entertainment in Macau.

Upon entering the place I was greeted by some staff who helped me to change, get familiar with the place and see the girls. It was a Saturday evening (about 20. 00) and the place was about to get busy. There were quite a few girls in the main hall (or whatever it is called) and some were very beautiful (although there were quite many average looking ones). One or two European girls. For some reason one of them (a hottie, albeit a too tall for my taste) kept staring at me. Maybe because I was the only non-Asian there or maybe she somehow suspected I may be from a proximate geographical area as herself (which may bee true). There also was one African girl but can't remember how good she was. I just didn't look much at non-Asian girls there.

After a good look I decided to go for a very slim and relatively short (I. E. Not a 'model' type. I think the only defining feature of the so-called 'models' is that they are taller. Some of them were not pretty at all. Not to me anyway). She had beautiful face although not a 'doll' type but rather a 'sexy s*ut'. Anyhow, she was freakin hot and someone I would love to bang in all possible ways. Her number was 180.

So I chose her and was guided to a private room which didn't look anything special. Just an ordinary room for 'massage'. Similar to the 'Hi-end' massage places in Bangkok. She came in minutes later and we went through, what I assume, is a regular routine: massage, BBBJ with mouthwash and hot tea, etc. Then on to the bed. This is where the least exciting bit starts. No more BBBJ, no DATY, no rimming, no DFK, even no fingering, no CIM / COM and not even COB (although it happened in the end of which she wasn't too happy). Pretty much nothing except of ordinary sex in missionary and doggie.

She said she was 20 from somewhere near Chongqing. Her English seemed very good (not something I necessarily appreciate in such situations) and she had a bit of an attitude. Not strictly being a * but you could see she's not going to engage into anything more than her routine stuff and would refuse anyting more than that.

Knowing that I am not the most unappealing and unattractive person in the world in my mid 20's I would guess that is just her ordinary attitude to the job. Perhaps I was slightly less lucky than I could have been choosing the girl (after all you can't tell what she's going to be like by just looking at her) but I guess those who said that it was not worth it were right. I don't think I am going to go to similar "top" places again and instead will try some other locations which were commonly recommended by some ISG forumers. Anyway, it's good to try and know what to expect so overall I am happy I did it.

My evaluation:

Face: 8/10.

Body: 9/10.

Service: 3. 5/10 (note, the 'routine' stuff including massage hot&cold BBBJ and licking all over body may seem something very exciting to some but to me it was plain boring and something I was not interested in. I am much more into things like DFK, rimming, DATY, cim / cof, facesitting, etc.)

Price: HK$1700[/QUOTE]You should have choosen the viet girl with the tattos all over her body. Amazing, I mean really amazing body (think a slender brazilian with white skin). Her performance was insane. But of course. YMMV and at 1700mop it may not be worth it to see. Oh well. That sucks to have a dead fish.

Dear community.

First excuse my bad english, its just enough for me to survive abroad. .

I've been to Macau before, but only tried some girls from the bars, like Moonwalkers, MP3 etc. In Moonwalker I met a cutie from the Philippines, well seems most of the girls there are from the Phils. Price there was 700hk$ shorttime and 1000 for overnight.

This year I'll go to Macau again, and like to try at least one of the famous saunas. Thats where I need some recommendations from you.

I red some sauna reviews here and liked the "East Spa" review because that described the things I would like to experience in a sauna:

Come in where a nice girl helps me to get rid of the clothes, choose another girl to do the washing ceremony. And spend some time in the jacuzzy together. And there should be showtimes in the "waiting" or "lobby" area, where I can pick the girl afterwards.

So which of the saunas, beside East Spa offer all this? I also read that at some places showtime is only on weekends. I'm in Macau from Monday to Friday, so I need a place with showtime also during weekdays.

What I also like to try, is to have fun with two girls in the hotel room. I assume the best way to take 2 girls is to find them in one of the bars, or what do you think?

Thanks for your answers. Cu

Hi Guys.

First post, so go easy on me! I have to spend a weekend in Hong kong this weekend, and was thinking of heading to Macau for a day to try a sauna. I don't want full service, but I love the whole pampering side that it sounds Like places like 18 and Rio are great at. My question is though, can anyone reccomend the best sauna to go to if you don't want to get laid, but just get an amazing erotic massage, maybe even a nuru massage? If I go in to these places and dint ask for full service will it still be ok? It really is B2B that I'm after. With a HE / COB finish of course.

Thanks everyone, I tried reading as much of the thread as I could, but I didn't see anything on this, and it's a really long thread! I appreciate any advice and promise a report on Monday!

[QUOTE=Majestic19; 1175623]Dear community.

First excuse my bad english, its just enough for me to survive abroad. .

I've been to Macau before, but only tried some girls from the bars, like Moonwalkers, MP3 etc. In Moonwalker I met a cutie from the Philippines, well seems most of the girls there are from the Phils. Price there was 700hk$ shorttime and 1000 for overnight.

This year I'll go to Macau again, and like to try at least one of the famous saunas. Thats where I need some recommendations from you.

I red some sauna reviews here and liked the "East Spa" review because that described the things I would like to experience in a sauna:

Come in where a nice girl helps me to get rid of the clothes, choose another girl to do the washing ceremony. And spend some time in the jacuzzy together. And there should be showtimes in the "waiting" or "lobby" area, where I can pick the girl afterwards.

So which of the saunas, beside East Spa offer all this? I also read that at some places showtime is only on weekends. I'm in Macau from Monday to Friday, so I need a place with showtime also during weekdays.

What I also like to try, is to have fun with two girls in the hotel room. I assume the best way to take 2 girls is to find them in one of the bars, or what do you think?

Thanks for your answers. Cu[/QUOTE]Golden Sauna has showtime all week, I was only once in East spa so I can't tell you if you get a showtime on weekdays. Both East spa and her sister sauna Santado or whatever its called where too Chinese for me so I didn't go there again.

For 2 girls I would recommend Darling 2. Its only 1500 for 2 sweet vietnam girls for 90 minutes. You could do the same in Darling 1 but its almost 3000 there.

If you want to get 2 girls to your hotel room you need to be lucky to find the right girls at mp3 or DD club. I would say 2500 to 3000 for both girls but the

Experiance you get will be totaly hit or miss while the girls at darling are usually trained as teams.

Am heading to Macau in a few days and was wondering if Darlings 1 is still a good place to visit. I was there about 3 years ago. How does it compare to Darlings 2? Any updates available?

I am also planning to visit another Sauna (18 or similar). Which place is a good option for a first visit?

[QUOTE=Michelangelo; 1178291]Am heading to Macau in a few days and was wondering if Darlings 1 is still a good place to visit. I was there about 3 years ago. How does it compare to Darlings 2? Any updates available?

I am also planning to visit another Sauna (18 or similar). Which place is a good option for a first visit?[/QUOTE]Darling one is still the safest bet in my opinion. The price has gone up to 1588 though.

I actullay prefer Darling 2. Its only 1088 and the mostly viet girls where always very nice and good performers.

For regular saunas I would recommend Famila noble or golden sauna. I find them almost as good as Rio or 18 at a much lower price.

the ferry from hong kong airport sped toward the lights of the port of macau, and i still had my list of saunas out, undecided on where to go when i disembarked. so much for my planning (the same had gone for my jakarta leg of the trip, and for pattaya later) , but how do you choose when approaching a place with so many enticing options. i had read about the macau saunas for years, and now there was just a shrinking stretch of water between me and them.

after making it through immigration at the ferry terminal, i looked at my list again and made a decision: east spa in the waldo hotel. what helped me make my decision was that it was a bit late, so i didn't want to try one of the biggies like rio or eighteen. plus i had read good things about the sleeping areas at east, and on this trip the saunas were going to be my sole source of room and board. of most immediate practicality, i noted 'waldo' among the hotels that had free shuttles from the ferry terminal. i should have inquired more closely when i boarded the bus, since it turned out that the shuttle was going to the grand waldo casino, over the bridge on taipa. it's just a good thing that macau is so small, so i didn't lose too much time. having stayed on the shuttle back to the ferry terminal, i hopped on the sands casino shuttle and after getting off there crossed the street and was in the waldo i wanted a few minutes later. the doorman asked where i wanted to go and directed me to the elevator to east spa.

with the dark wood throughout, the place had the air of a private gentleman's club. while i liked the atmosphere and the welcome by the indonesian locker room attendant (who kindly stowed my bags) , the cramped locker room and smallish pool / jacuzzi / shower area didn't impress me all that much. what compensated was the scrub-up in the shower, especially the mini blowjob, a fun experience though not exactly the erotic highlight of a lifetime. i was given the choice of 3 or 4 girls in the pool / shower room for this, and i realized later that they belonged to the regular selection of girls. the uniform du jour was a nurse's uniform in latex, with cute hats and sexy stockings.

cleaned up properly and clad in my satiny robe and shorts, i was ushered into the (very cold) lounge area, which as i would learn from later sauna visits, not especially large. i ordered up some food – appetizers, sandwiches, juices, etc. – which was easily the best of any of the saunas i visited. east spa also won top honors for the service girls – the ones who do the pedicures, shoulder and thigh massages, etc, and even the waitresses. these girls were the best looking of all the places i visited, providing eye candy when the main attractions were not in the room. i welcomed their friendly but not pushy approach; flirting and chatting with them (they were among the few english speakers i interacted with in the saunas) was a highlight for me. it was a much better way of passing the time between girlie shows than watching chinese television. (i was the only white westerner there but did not feel unwelcome in any way, even if the tv and reading options were limited. but was i really there for that?).

i also sampled some of their services, including a bracing shoulder massage from a gorgeous thai girl with the strongest hands i ever experienced, at the same time i was receiving a foot massage and pedicure from an indonesian cutie. later that night i received a more intimate massage from another indonesian, a very sweet and sexy looking girl. she took me into a small room for a thigh massage, to the annoyance of the thai girl who had tried to claim me for this. the indonesian girl's office-girl tight skirt and open-neck blouse (which offered easy access for me to reach in for a squeeze of her boobs) turned me on big-time. so did the sultry looks she gave me as she sensually stroked my cock.

lounging back in a comfortable recliner, eating delicious food, pampered by attractive girls – what more could i want? oh yeah, sex with a hot young china girl. which is a reason i was so eager to see the show to get that process started. and here again east was best in class. they put on a show at east far better than the other saunas (though sanado, sharing the same owners, comes close) , expertly mounted with the panache of a las vegas show down to the music, lighting, and costumes – including that night arab bellydancers and the aforementioned nurse uniforms. the rotation from guest to guest including a variety of strokes, humps, licks, and a brief blow job (unfortunately for me the girl who rotated to my seat experienced something of a laughing fit at that moment – hopefully not a commentary on me! – which got in the way of her performance, but i was not upset about it). the show was great fun, even if the responses of the girls varied – some were more receptive than others to my friendly groping and playful kisses. the real highlight was looking around the room and seeing a row of bare young asses and pussies, peeking out from under flimsy skirts. at east (and sanado) these sweet young things seemed to be the specialty of the house, more so than the other places i visited.

i knew from my research that girl selection at the saunas can be cutthroat, and that he who hesitates is lost. so immediately after the first show i called over a female staff member and told her the number of the girl i wanted. and oh did i want her. tall, curvy, with an incredibly cute face and a beaming smile, chou anh matched perfectly my vision of the kind of chinese girl i wanted to give me the full sauna experience. unfortunately, i was not the only one who had the same idea. the guy in the lounger next to me had called over a papasan to make his selection, and when chou anh like the other chosen girls made her over to greet the guy who selected her, i was surprised that it was my neighbor and not me whom she approached. i called over a staff member to ask about this, and at that point i witnessed the most selfless, generous, mongering nobel-prize-worthy act i can recall. my rival for chou anh's affections apologized for the situation and offered to let me take her to the room, saying that as a hong kong native he had this kind of opportunity a lot and didn't mind helping a visitor have a good first sauna visit. i took him up on his supreme act of mongering mercy.

from reading some past reports of sauna sex experiences, i was bracing myself for a well-executed but somewhat mechanical session, like the show well-choreographed but lacking in authentic feeling. chou anh dispelled these concerns right away. from the mutual shower it was apparent that her friendliness was no act, and that she was going to get into this as well. she was very skilled in the services we chose on the check-box card in the lounge: the exquisite hot and cold blowjobs, the interesting tongue-in-my-ass stuff, etc, which were all new experiences for me. but what i loved was the unexpected passion not promised on a menu card: the intense deep french kissing, the 69-ing, the sweaty thrusting. what amazed me most was the vision before me: i kept telling myself, i can't believe it, i'm fucking a chinese princess.

i had planned to keep it to one sex session that night, but the shows can be tempting. i was also intrigued by one girl with porcelain skin and beautiful eyes who i would have sworn was european, possibly a macanese with her portuguese heritage outweighing the chinese. so i discarded fiscal responsibility and chose her. she turned out to be from somewhere in south china; there went my little iberian fantasy. and while she was cute she was relatively mechanical in the room (it was rather late) , and our inability to communicate was problematic. for example, while fucking her in missionary i could not tell if her grunts and breathless words indicated pain or pleasure; i eventually gathered that they were her way of suggesting that we needed to hurry since time was almost up.

between my two sessions, the late hour, my travels, and the past three days of serious mongering in jakarta, i was exhausted. so i asked about sleeping arrangements and was led downstairs to one of the sleeping rooms. the room impressed me; while it had a bunk-bed set up, curtains offered privacy, there were safes in the room for one's belongings, and the mattresses, pillows, and blankets were all very comfortable. i settled in for a few hours of peaceful sleep, my first sauna experience under my belt.

after i woke up i headed upstairs to wash up in the shower room. guess who i saw there: chou anh, in her nurse costume, was at a computer surfing the internet. after our session i had told her that i would try to see her the next day, but i never really expected it to work out. so this was definitely a sign. i wished her good morning and asked her to join me in the lounge while i was having breakfast. chou anh sat on the arm of my lounger as i ate, and we chatted, entertained by the challenges posed by her few words of english and my reliance on a cantonese phrase cheat-sheet with chinese characters and their english translations. showing that phrase list to chou anh was a great ice-breaker, as was drawing pictures of the place i live, things i had seen, etc.

we eventually moved on to the room, and what a room it was. one of the best things about east spa is that the rooms are not some small dedicated fuck rooms, but actual hotel rooms, and big, well-appointed ones with spacious beds. what i loved about the one chou anh and i were brought to that morning was the huge bathroom, but more impressively the amazing daylight view over downtown macau and the harbor. i wanted to leave the curtains open during our session, better to see chou anh's glorious body as well as entertain some reverse voyeur fantasies, but she insisted we close them.

since it was the end of her shift, chou anh let her hair down. literally, in terms of taking off her impossible long false eyelashes, which appeared to be a specialty east and sanado saunas. without the eyelashes, the perfect hair, and the costume, chou anh was a lot more girl-next-door (if you had a chinese princess living next door, i suppose). this session wasn't about the tick-box sex acts carnival; it was about passionate kissing and sensual thrusting, climaxing with chou anh riding me in cowgirl until we came. what an amazing introduction to the world of the macau saunas.

i left east spa around noon, bag on my back, in search of another sauna. i walked over to familia noble sauna. aka how ming, located in a commercial-residential building at 249-2555 alameda dr. carlos assumpcao (a big north-south street divided by a park that's south of av. the amizade). the lobby looked posh, and the menu card looked fine, but since i had read that it had pretty good sleeping arrangements i left it as a potential option for that night (in the end, i did not have a chance to return).

from there i walked over to sanado sauna on rua de pequim, across from the metropark hotel. at first i was a little hesitant since sanado and east share the same owners and i wanted to try out a variety of places, but i had read good things about their special daytime offers (which turned out to be true) and so went for it. in the basement of a commercial building, sanado didn't look especially fancy at first glance, though the pool area was well appointed (it had a little fridge with cold drinks) , and the lounge area was comfy; overall, it's a fairly small place, but actually a scale i preferred to the giant places like golden dragon. as at east, i had received a shower scrub-blowjob (you give the girl a wrist band received upon entry, i guess to make sure guys aren't taking more then their allotted share).

a daytime visit to sanado is a great value. the special of the day included a baby oil body rub and a traditional (therapeutic) massage, along with the sex session for 1, 250 patacas. i just had to be out by 7pm. i came in from a soak in the pool just in time for what i expected to be a show. instead, they just lined about ten girls up in front of the lounge chairs. i was lucky that my seat was near the end, and a staff woman asked me which girl i liked. not knowing at first that this was the selection for the baby oil massage, i chose pera, a petite vietnamese girl with a great smile, a twinkle in her eye, and glitter on her face. pera led me back to the pool and into a small room with a massage table. we hit it off well since i was using my vietnamese phrase list to communicate, and she got a special kick out of the section on dirty words. she stripped naked, undressed me, and gave me a thorough table shower. we moved on to the baby oil, pera giving me one of the best body-to-body massages i ever experienced. it made up my mind to choose her for my sex session later that day.

after some flirting with the service girls (who were almost as cute as at east spa, the food was also of the same top quality) , i sat back to enjoy the show. before it began, however, i called over one of the staff members to tell them i would like to reserve pera. that was fine, and after another well-organized show, almost at the level of east spa, pera and were off to the room. it wasn't nearly as nice as the hotel suites at east, and absolutely tiny in comparison. compensating for this was that there were mirrors at bed level around the entire perimeter of the room.

this was the first time for me with a vietnamese girl, and what an introduction pera gave me. her easy smile and giggly personality made for a great atmosphere in the room. among all the sauna girls i had in macau she was possibly the best at giving the hot and cold bj and the rest of the treats at the start of the massage. what i really loved, though was how slender and lithe she was, which allowed us to get into fun positions, like her on top with her back against my chest, a personal favorite. her pussy felt so good that as i came i let out a loud primal yell. i'm usually not vocal like that during sex, but pera brought out the animal inside.

my next activity was the traditional massage, and although it was not a sexy massage i did not mind (even through the masseuse was young and pretty good looking) , since it could possibly have been the best massage i ever received, with just the right pressure in the right spots. as 7pm approached i received a couple of gentle reminders that my day package was coming to a close. my attempt to move on was slowed, however, by the cute chinese girl giving me my farewell shower wash and blowjob. the shower part didn't take so long, but since she spoke english we started talking and flirting, and the same happened with the indonesian attendant girls in the locker room. so i did get a little annoyed look from the manager at the end, but overall the daytime sanado experience was top notch, and the best value of any of my sauna visits.

another sauna experience over, another about of indecision to deal with. since it was already nighttime, i decided to go to a place nearby. among the closer venues was the sauna in the emperor hotel (rua the xangai, a little south of the holiday inn) , so i headed there. i ought to stop writing here, since my mom always told me that if i didn't have anything nice to say, i shouldn't say anything at all. nah, i'the rather let it out. i was hugely disappointed in emperor, and can't think of much at all to recommend it. well, the sauna's entrance desk area was very classy. but that's about it.

the first thing i encountered after i showered were two (not so cute) girls there to dry off customers, and then of course hit them up to sign their name authorizing a tip; i didn't appreciate that. the pool and shower area was low-ceilinged and looked like it belonged in a ymca in a bad big-city neighborhood – dismal, grey, and kind of crappy. the lounge area had low ceilings so was kind of claustrophobic, and the service girls were old and unattractive. the dining area was a dinky little cafeteria section, and the food i ordered was at best mediocre.

i did hold out hope that the parade of girls would make up for all this, but it didn't. the first negative was that it didn't take place in the lounge but instead in the gloomy pool area, so there was no comfortable place to watch. there wasn't much to the show, just a line of girls circling the room. there were a lot of them (including a couple of europeans) , wearing different badges indicating price differences, but none of them caught my eye. the mood was made even less appealing by the suited men on staff pushing customers to take the girls; i felt like i was surrounded by used car salesmen. at that point i decided that i wasn't about to waste one of my nights in macau in this place, and so was willing to leave without taking a girl. it was a waste of the 400 pataca entry charge, but i preferred to find a sauna where i could have a good time that night.

and damn, did i find one. i headed over to the nearby golden sauna (entrance on the side street rua de cantao, a block down from the holiday inn on rua de pequim). upstairs in a dull commercial building, i had second thoughts about my choice as i entered the locker and pool areas, which definitely didn't impress: they were cramped and pestering by a not-so-cute scrub girl turned me off.

but things changed when i got to the lounge. i was seated next to an asian-american mongerer who had relocated from new york to hong kong. he sang the praises of the golden girls, and when small groups of girls were brought out for a customer's selection i knew i had made a good choice. i did become a bit impatient for a full-fledged girl show to begin, since i read that golden had pioneered these shows so was eager to see one. but it was still early in the evening and not a full-house of clients so it took some waiting, so i finally took a foot massage (having brushed off a number of offers for pedicures, etc.) while i was waited.

finally showtime arrived. given the size of this sauna, i was very impressed by the number of the girls and their looks. the show itself was kind of dull and the girls seemed uninspired (and the business suits worn by some of the model-level girls didn't do it for me this time). while the show was much less interesting than the ones at east and sanado spas, more importantly there was enough talent to make choosing a girl pleasantly difficult. what made it tougher was the presence of an impossibly tall indonesian amazon. while i had lots of fun with indonesian girls on the previous leg of my trip, i had planned to go for as many chinese women as possible in macau. a bigger issue was that this girl looked like she might win the title of the tallest woman i'the ever fuck. when my american seatmate confirmed that based on his own experience n. would give me a great time, i selected her and she came over to sit with me. as the girls who had not been selected began to walk out, another indonesian girl who had been standing next to n. said something like 'it will be better with both of us, ' in what sounded to me like a new york accent. on the spot i decided to go for the threesome, partly because this new girl looked amazing. she was small and slender and looked like a hot little latina, kind of like eva longoria. but mostly it was that attitude; she not only sounded like she grew up in the bronx, she had that attitude also. (since i forgot her name – i hate when that happens, but there were just too many girls on this trip – i'll call her j-lo).

we spent the next two hours in the room. while it was a lot more expensive than the threesomes i did with indonesian girls in jakarta earlier in the week, unlike most of those this one was electric. i can see n's open mouth as i banged her, and can still hear j-lo's dirty talk as she rode me in cowgirl. it got a little too wild at one point, though; as i was fucking n, she on her back with legs up and me kneeling, i held j-lo and sucked one of her tits. in my frenetic thrusting i accidentally bit her nipple, which really put the brakes on things. i apologized profusely but j-lo withdrew for a while, and so i turned my attention to some lengthy daty with n. j-lo eventually got back into things and i finished the session by fucking her with her lying on her front. i'm not sure if i've been involved in a sweatier session in my life. expensive, but money well spent. and i did learn from j-lo that she loved watching hollywood movies, which would explain that american accent!

i needed a while to recover from those two, and was thinking about what i would do about sleeping at some point. i returned to my recliner and my american seatmate told me that at golden the rooms could be used for sleeping, but only after a while when they would no longer be in demand for sessions. the rooms are fine for sleeping, but they were a little cramped sex, especially with multiple girls – they did have good mirror placement, though, as i discovered during my threesome.

i wasn't ready to quit, though, so i looked forward to the next show. i locked onto one young chinese girl immediately. a tiny little thing, when she came over after i made my selection she showed me the page on the menu displaying different costumes you could rent for your girl for the session. i was a little reluctant, but she was keen on a red and black negligee so i decided to spend the extra$10 or so for the outfit. it proved to be a great investment.

in the room this girl's performance completely belied her innocent looks. she sucked my dick with a skill that i couldn't believe she had developed in 18 or so years. her teenie playfulness was fun also; while she would only kiss lightly, when i tried something deeper she blew a mouthful of air back into mine. oh, back to that negligee. i slid the straps over her shoulders to reveal her small breasts, and after removing her panties slid my cock inside her, thrusting ever so slowly as if i was deflowering her. later, still wearing the negligee around her midriff, i held her over me, her back above my chest, sliding her back and forth until i came with a groan. all the while i was imagining that this was a virgin chinese princess gifted to me to enjoy as i liked. a lot of fantasy mileage from that $10 negligee. .

i had more waiting to do for a sleeping room to come open, and i passed the time with n, who came over to me. she told me about herself – her past work as a hong kong club dancer, her european boyfriends, her life in indonesia, etc. she draped herself over my legs as well listened to music on her phone. she also let me in on a couple of in-house secrets, including the fact that j-lo had been annoyed when i chose the young china doll instead of her for the last round, and that n. hated threesomes. this made me think about what a solo session with n. would be like, and when she suggested it i said yes and we moved onto a room. the view of us coupling in the mirror on the ceiling was amazing. after satisfying ourselves, n. took down my email address and headed out for the remaining time on her late shift. i remained, settling in for a few hours of sleep.

i was a bad sight in the morning, still worn out from all my recent activities. the morning atmosphere in the sauna wasn't serene, with too much cleaning and staff preparations for another day, but i had ordered some food and then got cleaned up and got ready to meet my friends. my night at golden had drained me (including financially – 6, 000 patacas) , but it had been so worth it.

The next morning I met up with friends, but I planned to use a little of the afternoon time they gave me for 'sight seeing' on my own to get together with the Indonesian girl N. From Golden Sauna, who had emailed me with an invitation to meet. We met near the steps of the ruins of St. Paul's Church, and I was floored by how different she looked in a tank top and jean shorts. Her sportiness overwhelmed the model-look she had in the sauna the night before, but this new look also appealed to me a lot. I had been exhausted from my night at Golden, but seeing her like this perked me up. We went over to her (very small) apartment, and waited for her roommate (a cute Indonesian who had been a Hong Kong club dancer, also N's previous job – I saw their photos in dance outfits on the wall – wow). To make a long story short, we had an eventful afternoon, although it ultimately didn't include repeating our activities of the night before. But I was still happy to spend time with her, she's such a sweet girl, and strong when she needs to be.

I was determined that on the next day, my last in Macau, my time away from my friends would include more indoor sightseeing. I still had a huge gap in my Macau itinerary: I couldn't bring myself to leave it without visiting Rio Spa or Eighteen Sauna in the Golden Dragon Hotel. But which one? It might be a bit of a rush, but I decided on both.

Rio Spa was my first stop (the hotel is at Rua Luis Gonzaga Gomez and Alameda Dr. Carlos Assumpcao, north of Av the Amizade) , and after my five hours there I found it very difficult to leave. I've visited palatial German FKKs with luxury trimmings and extensive wellness areas, as well as dropped in to check out more legitimate high-end spasm but never saw anything like this. I was impressed from the start, in the entrance locker room (and later the robing area before the lounge) , where the male staff members waited on me hand and foot.

The pool was like nothing I had ever experienced. Within a high-ceilinged hall with beautiful wood accents, atmosphere of tranquility enveloped me. I was invigorated by dipping into the concentric circles of a frigid dip pool, a piping hot zone, and a warm water bath. Then I dissolved into a state of serious relaxation while lying on a molded underwater bed that allowed me to adjust jets of water at various strengths. I was relaxed but not bored: besides the televisions on the walls, I had something else to cast my eyes upon. Along the side of the room were tiled stalls with Japanese seat-showers, and the girls offering the service hovered alongside the pool, clad in bikini tops and short skirts. I took in the view of these cute Southeast Asian girls and flirted a bit, but declined the shower offers.

It was still early afternoon, but I didn't have too much time if I would be able to go to Golden Dragon later. So I reluctantly pulled myself away from the pool and continued my tour of this pleasure palace. Each section suggested that no expense was spared, but more evident was the thoughtfulness that went into the design. The grooming area resembled a high-end hair salon. The showers, under a high barrel-vaulted ceiling that would fit right in at a Roman Imperial bath, offered so many spray options that you could have chosen a different angle or stream for each morning of a month. The lounge offered maximum comfort and relaxation; the high-ceilinged room combined spaciousness with a sense of privacy, since each section held only a few recliners. These lounge chairs could be adjusted electronically to multiple positions, and each row of seats faced a set of large-screen televisions, with remote control handy.

With spectacular facilities like these, it was easy to lose sight of the main reason for coming, the sex. You literally lost sight of the girls, though, since they never appeared in the lounge area in contrast with the other saunas I visited. Instead of a show or parade of girls coming to me, when I was ready to take my sex massage a suited male staff member led me upstairs to room with a low stage against the long wall. Standing alongside him at a tall round table, I felt a bit uncomfortable when the dozen available girls filed in, since I was the only guest present. I received an explanation of the different outfits and badges (models, Chinese, different ethnicities, etc.) and mulled my options, impressed by the quality. I weighed whether it was worth it shell out for the higher cost of a model, given Rio's already high price tag (in the end my total charges were about 2, 100 Patacas) , but I ultimately figured that I might as well go high-end all the way. So I nodded toward one of the 'model' class women, a tall, slender girl in a yellow bikini with her hair up and an incredibly sexy face.

A staff member escorted me to the room, which (with the possible exception of the high end hotel rooms of East Spa) was predictably the most opulent of any of the saunas I visited. Featuring understated but elegant Asian decor, the highlight was the shallow tub (a kind of hybrid table with sprayers) where my masseuse cleaned me and gave me a body rub. Off to the bed, where she gave me the usual variety pack of services. She was a joy to look at as we fucked, but to use German FKK terminology she was an 'optifick, ' beautiful but rather mechanical in her performance, and she got a bit friendly only toward the end.

Much more erotically charged, actually, was the thigh massage I opted for. The service girls at Rio are pretty cute, and I was especially tempted by one sexy Bali girl. But I had already agreed to take a thigh massage from a tiny, adorable short-haired Vietnamese girl. Inside the dedicated thigh massage room she separated my robe, pulled down my pants, and proceeded to jerk my cock slowly and sensually. She was excited about my attempts to say a few Vietnamese words, and she called in a countrywoman who eagerly looked over my list of obscene Vietnamese phrases. A fun experience, flirting and chatting with two girls while one strokes your dick. My masseuse gave me such an adorable smile as she jerked me off that I badly wanted to shoot my load onto her incredibly cute face. That didn't happen, but the thigh massage was the sexual capstone to an afternoon of luxurious relaxation.

While Rio was an oasis of calm, Eighteen Sauna felt like a frenetic sex casino; if Donald Trump designed a brothel this would be it. I got to the Golden Dragon in a few minutes by taxi from Rio (it's on Rua de Malaca, not far from the Ferry terminal) , and headed up the elevator of Tower 2 (which also has the erotic 'Crazy Happy Show'). Upstairs at Eighteen I found myself caught up in a whirl of glitz, energy, and movement. Now early evening, a good crowd of customers was on hand, as well as plenty of attendants in the locker room, including toweling girls.

I didn't have much time before I had to meet friends, so I knew that I would have to forego the pool and any of the spa amenities available. So I headed to the lounge and took a seat in one of the comfortable recliners. The lounge area was designed to impress, with a high ceiling and gilded columns, and the atmosphere of an exclusive gentleman's club. Normally I would have enjoyed relaxing here for a while, but I was happy when it was announced that the girls show would soon begin.

This took place back in the pool area, with me and the rest of the customers standing against the wall and taking in the view. The show started with go-go dancing by four girls on a glassed-in balcony above. Nice, but nothing compared to what followed. Groups of a half-dozen or so girls started filing in, with the lineup of girls in the room eventually reaching over 50 girls. The girls continually shifted along the back wall of the pool area to give all the customers a good look. The scale stunned me; so much beautiful, available pussy in one place, ripe for the taking. The selection was impressive, probably near the top of the saunas I visited (though I think I preferred East and Golden, maybe since I had more time to look there). There was even a little ethnic diversity to add flavor, with several European girls, and one fantastic looking black girl. How can a man make a decision with so much to choose from?

I avoided this dilemma a bit by settling on a girl fairly early in the process, not wanting to lose my choice to another customer or lose too much time deciding. Her friendly smile and Southeast Asian features (she was actually from southern China) won me over. Her large tits, fortunately not an illusion produced by her bra, also played a part. I was led to a room downstairs, and she joined me a bit later. The room did not live up to the bombastic decor upstairs; it was pretty small and nondescript. My girl was friendly but ultimately and unfortunately the program took precedence over the fucking. Too much time was dedicated to the body rub, which was enjoyable, but took precious time away from the sex, which was where I would rather have spent it. Still, there are worse ways to end a trip than by boning a big-boobed cutie. Eighteen didn't quite live up to my other sauna visits since my visit was kind of rushed, and so I didn't get the most for my 1, 700 Patacas, but it simply has to be seen when one visits Macau. The Macau saunas are like that in general: with the way they cater to a man's needs on so many levels, they're just a must-do experience in any mongerer's career. From there I was off to another must-do: Pattaya, Thailand.

Continued on the Thailand-Pattaya Reports Forum.

Some random observations from a recent Sanado trip:

Prices are naturally up. It looks like the basic 60 minute session is $14xx MOP. The guy out front offered a free BB (girl body wash) session if I opted for a session up front, although I don't know if that is always offered. No idea if they still have a happy hour discount. I didn't see any sign of it.

AFAIK, nearly everything is extra now. If you want a girl to lather you up while showering or accompany you in the pool, it's extra. However, they do post signs up with the prices that are fairly easy to spot, so hopefully it's not a big surprise.

There is a single sleeping room with maybe 16 beds total in it way in the back of the private rooms. They're actually bunk beds, with a small curtain enclosing each for some privacy. You can stay up to 24 hours if you purchase anything from a Shanghai massage (regular massage) and up. Basically anything that's around 1000 MOP or more. Otherwise you're out after 12 hours at most.

Anyone in a red jacket is someone offering the misc services. Foot massage, hand / shoulder massage, head massage, manicure / pedicures, ear cleaning, and probably some other things that I missed. Managers were wearing Hawaiian shirts, probably trying to tie into the current summer theme they've got.

Sanado shows. Others have posted about this, but I'll try to add a few more details. Shows run roughly every couple of hours, and I think they vary the theme between shows. I caught two. One Hawaiian themed show with the girls in short fake grass skirts and just leis on top (bare breasted. Very nice!) and one pirate themed show complete with hats (very strange). And of course they never wear panties. They perform for 6 rounds, moving over to the next guy after each round. IIRC, the order was ear nibbling / licking, breast fondling, chest nibbling / licking, lap dance, breast to chest rub, and mini-HJ. Numbers are hard to see because the girls move so fast and your eyes are never on the rather small number plates anyway. If you see a girl you like, pick quickly. I had a hard time picking out any Viet girls. They all looked Chinese to me (and I'm ethnic Chinese myself). If there are any, I think it's only a couple.

Mandarin obviously is most useful if you want to chat up the girls. Pretty much none of the red jackets or the girls spoke any English, although I think some can read a little bit. In talking to my girl, I found out that the girls work 14 hour shifts (hers was 9pm to 11am). Add on the time in makeup, they have at most 8 hours outside of the sauna before they go back. I'm pretty sure they need to sleep some too. I don't think the girls can arbitrarily take a day off without jeopardizing their future employment at the club, so combined with the 7 day visas I suspect extracurricular activities would be limited. I did get some outside contact information, so I will attempt to do more digging if I get a chance.

Mate, you have donne some of the best reports here on ISG.

Everyone should be grateful for your nice pieces of reporting mixed with humour and feet on the ground attitude.

Very useful contribution.

[QUOTE=Random932;1182049]Mandarin obviously is most useful if you want to chat up the girls. Pretty much none of the red jackets or the girls spoke any English, although I think some can read a little bit. In talking to my girl, I found out that the girls work 14 hour shifts (hers was 9pm to 11am). Add on the time in makeup, they have at most 8 hours outside of the sauna before they go back. I'm pretty sure they need to sleep some too. I don't think the girls can arbitrarily take a day off without jeopardizing their future employment at the club, so combined with the 7 day visas I suspect extracurricular activities would be limited. I did get some outside contact information, so I will attempt to do more digging if I get a chance.[/QUOTE]My girls told me different things depending on which sauna they are from. 14 hours is not normal. Most have 10 or 12 hour shifts. One day off a month and 3-4 days during their period. That is very secure info for darling 1 and 2 at least. So there is still time for extracurricular activities, I know buy persoanl experiance. But still, the girls are usually tired. So if I score phone nummbers form sauna girls I usually prefer to invite them over next day after they slept.

This info ablies only for the long term girls like viet, thai etc. That in macao for several years. Some of the Chinese girls are usually there only for a few days for visa reasons. I visited macao now 12 times in the last 2 years and barely never seen a Chinese girl twice while I get visits form my regular viet and thai girl form more then a year now.

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1182053]Mate, you have donne some of the best reports here on ISG.

Everyone should be grateful for your nice pieces of reporting mixed with humour and feet on the ground attitude.

Very useful contribution.[/QUOTE]I"ll second that!

Thanks Ibn Battuta.

[QUOTE=Osuul; 1182084]My girls told me different things depending on which sauna they are from. 14 hours is not normal. Most have 10 or 12 hour shifts. One day off a month and 3-4 days during their period. That is very secure info for darling 1 and 2 at least. So there is still time for extracurricular activities, I know buy persoanl experiance. But still, the girls are usually tired. So if I score phone nummbers form sauna girls I usually prefer to invite them over next day after they slept.

This info ablies only for the long term girls like viet, thai etc. That in macao for several years. Some of the Chinese girls are usually there only for a few days for visa reasons. I visited macao now 12 times in the last 2 years and barely never seen a Chinese girl twice while I get visits form my regular viet and thai girl form more then a year now.[/QUOTE]It's hard to say. I only talked to the one girl in Sanado, so it's possible she is not the norm. But I wouldn't be surprised if the Chinese girls pack as many hours in as possible because of their visa limitations. Based off her working hours, there just isn't time for visiting outside the club unless the girl is willing to not sleep. If the girls are doing that, I can see them burning out very very quickly, which would also explain why you rarely see a girl twice.

[QUOTE=Random932;1182102]It's hard to say. I only talked to the one girl in Sanado, so it's possible she is not the norm. But I wouldn't be surprised if the Chinese girls pack as many hours in as possible because of their visa limitations. Based off her working hours, there just isn't time for visiting outside the club unless the girl is willing to not sleep. If the girls are doing that, I can see them burning out very very quickly, which would also explain why you rarely see a girl twice.[/QUOTE]Well some do by switching back and forth between the saunas in Zuhai and Macao to renew the visa but since you have to go to your hometown to get a visa into your passport that only works for Chinese girls living near by.
In general I find the girls to be very tired in places like 18 cause they had sex for like 10 hours already. No wonder the gfe part is difficult for them.

[QUOTE=Osuul; 1182407]Well some do by switching back and forth between the saunas in Zuhai and Macao to renew the visa but since you have to go to your hometown to get a visa into your passport that only works for Chinese girls living near by.

In general I find the girls to be very tired in places like 18 cause they had sex for like 10 hours already. No wonder the GFE part is difficult for them.[/QUOTE]If you don't mind spending big bucks for the girl, they'll probably call out sick. Normally girls won't call out sick like you mention. Visa limitations, making as much money as possible per visa trip, etc. But if you offer them enough money that is close to there daily pay, they will go out. The lowest I ever got them to call out sick was 4000hkd. The highest quote I ever heard was 20000hkd. So YMMV with each girl. Also depends how popular the girl is at the establishment.

** i forgot to mention this. these quote seem obscene especially since changping is only a express bus away. but then i recently discovered. your not paying for au-natural, country girls. your paying for girls that had been surgically altered (well the one's that i end up with). weather it has been there breast, there nose, there eyes, there face, perhaps all. this cost lots of money on their part. but. this is the cost to be a top girl in macao. Frankly, i like the surgical enhancements since many of them are stunning. in changping. i have a hardtime finding that wow girl!

i was in macau the 2nd. week of july. 2011 to basically tour the place, play baccarat in the casinos and do some mongering. since this is a sex forum, i will concentrate my talk on my sexperience encounters.

1st. encounter. vietnamese girl from hou va.

day 1, about 4:30pm, i went to hou va. this is near the royal hotel. this isn't a first class establishment nor a sauna. you enter the place, you pay about 920mop for 2 rounds of sex. the mamasan showed me and lined up about 15 girls, most of them were vietnamese with one or two of them chinese. i would say the price was very reasonable for macau standards. the service was particularly good with the girl i picked. the girl looked quite lovely, possibly an 8, age 20, nice teeth, captivating smile, charming personality and very obliging. she escorted me upstairs to a room, where we bathed together, then proceeded to have about 80 mins. of two pops sex. she did bbbj, you can daty her if you wished, touch and finger her begging pussy, do any sex position. she was moaning hard as i kept pounding her heavily. i would say, i really had a nice cardio work out with her, sweating as i had a hard and long time cumming on my 2nd. round. not bad for my 1st. encounter as i unloaded my cum, together with my stress and excitement for the day.

2nd. encounter. chinese girl from sanado sauna.

day 2, about 5:00pm, i went to sanado sauna. this is near the holiday inn hotel. this could be a 2nd. class sauna, in regards to facilities as compared to 18 sauna or rio. you enter the place and pay about 1, 450mop. this would include a choice of the girl you pick for sex, food and non-alcoholic drinks, initial shower given by a girl you pick with a free appetizer. 1 minute of bbbj, pool baths if desired, about 15 mins. of baby massage oil rubbing with a naked girl, and after the 1 hour sex, follows about 45 mins. of therapeutic massage given by another girl for total relaxation and to relieve any stress remaining. i was done with the initial shower and was relaxing in the sofa, when mamasan asked if i was ready to see the girls. she paraded about 16 sexy young girls, mostly from china and vietnam. i had a hard time picking, scanning the girls from left to right and vice versa for several times. anyway i ended up picking a chinese girl from sichuan province in mainland china. i wanted a typical looking chinese girl, so i can really feel the flavor of china. she was cute, rating 8, had a sweet smile, nice teeth (i'm particular about nice teeth) , fair smooth complexion, kinda short though was about 5'1", age 19, with medium perky boobs and nipples, nice, warm, hairy, juicy pussy and was very willing. she took me to a room where he applied oil to my entire naked body and to her naked body. we rubbed each other's slippery body vigorously front and back for about 15 mins. to have a warm up, then we bathed and proceeded to another room for 1 hour of explosive sex. the room had mirrors so it was fun to see how i pounded her in different positions, and see her exotic facial expression. she seemed to be in excruciating orgasmic pleasure, while moaning heavily. she does bbbj, daty if you wished, finger, spread her pussy to visualize and will go nonstop sex, as it took me about 45 mins. to shootout. it was a hell of a round and as expected of me, i was sweating and she was also and we both felt very tired. after that she brought me to another room where another girl, a vietnamese would give me a real therapeutic relaxing massage.

3rd. encounter. chinese girl from venetian casino.

day 3, i went to venetian casino and was gambling for about 3 hours. on the baccarat table, it was up and down and up on the winnings. as i looked at my watch, it was about 11:00pm, so i told myself to quit while ahead in the winnings, so i could have time to look for another encounter. as i changed my chips into cash, and on my way out, i passed by many baccarat tables, then suddenly saw a lovely, very attractive chinese girl standing near a baccarat table seemingly betting too. i stopped and stared at her and surprisingly she stared back at me. our eyes were both focused and i felt mesmerized. we both went towards each other. she spoke in chinese, i told her i speak only english, she said many chinese words, finally she hit the magic word, saying "massage" and i said yes, yes. so just using hand gestures, we walked to the elevator. she thought i had a room in the venetian. i told him that my hotel was at metropole. there was pause and hesitation, but somehow she agreed to go with me to the hotel via a taxi and said it was for 1, 000mop. i felt so lucky for such a girl to be my next encounter. i rate her 9 for beauty compared to the prettier girls in lisboa racetrack, age 19, single. 5'5" ht, from mainland china, looks and dress like a decent guest in venetian hotel, (instead of a hooker) fair smooth complexion, slim and sexy, with medium firm boobs and pinkish nipples, very clean naked body when inspected, no blemishes, nice hairy responsive pussy, nice, sweet smile, good attitude and very cooperative. does not have bad odor but have a distinctive smell like pheromones, that turns me on. we both took a shower in my hotel room, then relaxed a bit on the bed caressing, embracing erotically touching her, till her goosebumps showed. it was time for the real show. she did bbbj, and condom sex, no daty. it was another long lasting round, possibly over 30 mins. different positions. she had a wet pussy, nice moans and facial expression during sex. i enjoyed sucking and nibbling on her firm boobs and hard pinkish nipples and fingering her succulent pussy, while looking at her beautiful passionate face.

anyway, after the deed, she left and it was time for me to sleep.

4th. encounter. spanish girl from d2 disco.

day 4, after gambling the whole day at galaxy and other different casinos, i ended up losing money, so before losing everything for the budget of the day, at about 1am, i went to mp3 to see if i liked someone there, but didn't find anyone my fancy. so i decided to go to d2 disco. which was rather near my hotel. i went inside and drank some beers. it was awefully crowded inside the disco that you could hardly have a bird's eyeview glimpse of all the ladies present during that time. i conversed with some indonesian, filipina and chinese ladies there, figuring out whom to invite to my hotel. the indonesians nor the chinese were not that attractive to me. so i decided to leave the place. one filipina was beautiful but shamefully asked for 3, 000mop, which i just laughed at. as i was exiting towards the bar area, i saw 2 young caucasian girls, somehow, i just butt in, said hello, and started a conversation. one was a russian, about. 5'9" tall and the other one was a spanish lady from barcelona, named eva, about. 5'6" tall, age 21. the russian lady seemed to have bad attitude and reacted to how i just butt in to them, while the spanish lady seemed to be friendly. so i was whispering to the ear of the spanish, since the music was so noisy in the disco. i told her straight with charisma that i liked her, that she was friendly and very pretty and i would like to invite her out. to my surprise, she agreed without saying any price. to cut it short, we went to my hotel and we both took a bath. in my mind, i again said to myself that i was very lucky, maybe not in the casino, but with ladies. being an asian, i have never tried a spanish girl before. i rate her 8. 5 in beauty, having a sexy well proportionate body, after the bath we both relaxed on the bed and as with the chinese venetian lady, i started doing some foreplay, caressing, embracing, erotically touching her, till her goosebumps showed. i started kissing her all over her body to make her real horny and wet. not exaggerating, but she has first class body parts. she has one of the best firm boobs and hard perky reddish pinkish nipples which i joyfully licked and sucked. she also has a perfect pink pussy, clean, good smell, few blonde pubic hair and thin labias, no blemishes or black marks and to my biggest surprise, pussy still quite tight. wow what a trip! to make the most of it, i did daty on her, spreading the vaginal lips in bright light. she liked it so much that it made her real wet, then i inserted my finger to enjoy the pleasure of feeling what was in the orifices of the spanish vagina. it was so smooth inside, warm and bubbling. i should say her sex turn-ons is daty and finger, she likes it. i discovered that she is as horny as i am. she bbbj or cdbj, i wasn't quite sure, since i was a bit tipsy due to the beers. then condom sex followed. another very long round of ecstatic pounding and grinding due to my nature, plus the effect of the alcohol. she was actually multi-orgasmic, moaned loudly and liked long sex. i knew she came at least 3 times. we were exhausted after the deed and shortly after that she kissed and embraced me goodbye.

oh by the way, her asking was 3, 000mop, but i said that i sadly lost in the casino and would leave macau that morning and could only afford about 1, 500mop, which she accepted with a smile.

well fellow mongerers, i hope you liked what i've shared. good luck to all of you on your trip to macau. cheers!

[QUOTE=Stinkyfeet; 1182534]If you don't mind spending big bucks for the girl, they'll probably call out sick. Normally girls won't call out sick like you mention. QUOTE]

There is a big difference between Chinese and foreign (thai etc) girls. The Chinese usually stay short term and work 24/7 the other stay longer term so they won't do that since you can't work 24/7 for several years.

[QUOTE=Osuul;1183412]There is a big difference between Chinese and foreign (thai etc) girls. The Chinese usually stay short term and work 24/7 the other stay longer term so they won't do that since you can't work 24/7 for several years.[/QUOTE]You are right. I normally have the Chinese girls call out sick. I never asked girls from other countries since I never found one good enough for me to invest in.

I took the hit and tried a new place. This is on the South end of L'Arc hotel, seperate entrance from main Hotel (hotel is across Wynn and cross corner to MGM).

I was staying at L'Arc so I thought I' try it out. Given the KTV here (Club9) is touted as the best in Macau right now.

Victoria is only 1-2 months old. The interior is pretty much like all other sauna's I've been to, size is about same as 18 for seating.

I went on a Tues eve@midnight and it was dead. Lineup only had about 10 gals. Cost including tax is 1588, 1788 for models / russians. Note it is for 50min only instead of std 60min at all other sauna. I chose a petite gal and went to a decent sized room and had pretty vanilla service (ok the gal gave a really nice BJ but otherwise was pretty plain service.)

Sorry to say I would avoid this joint for now. Nothing special and the lineup was bare even for Tues I expect more girls than this at a mid-priced sauna.

Note L'Arc hotel is pretty nice and has a great location. Free breakfast, free wifi are things I always like to see. I've tried getting a room here before and found it sold out / unavailable since it appears to be like Sands and mostly for VIP / invited gamblers. If you want to try it. One of the bigger agents at HKG Ferry Terminal had rooms (for $1500 HKG per night. Good deal given lots of hotels were sold out or overpriced at like 2000+).

[QUOTE=Osuul; 1178471]Darling one is still the safest bet in my opinion. The price has gone up to 1588 though.

I actullay prefer Darling 2. Its only 1088 and the mostly viet girls where always very nice and good performers.

For regular saunas I would recommend Famila noble or golden sauna. I find them almost as good as Rio or 18 at a much lower price.[/QUOTE]I just went to Darling 2 last night and it was 1188. Did the price recently go up? They even had a sign up on the wall with the new price.

[QUOTE=Random932; 1182049]Some random observations from a recent Sanado trip:

Prices are naturally up. It looks like the basic 60 minute session is $14xx MOP. The guy out front offered a free BB (girl body wash) session if I opted for a session up front, although I don't know if that is always offered. No idea if they still have a happy hour discount. I didn't see any sign of it.

AFAIK, nearly everything is extra now. If you want a girl to lather you up while showering or accompany you in the pool, it's extra. However, they do post signs up with the prices that are fairly easy to spot, so hopefully it's not a big surprise.

There is a single sleeping room with maybe 16 beds total in it way in the back of the private rooms. They're actually bunk beds, with a small curtain enclosing each for some privacy. You can stay up to 24 hours if you purchase anything from a Shanghai massage (regular massage) and up. Basically anything that's around 1000 MOP or more. Otherwise you're out after 12 hours at most.

Anyone in a red jacket is someone offering the misc services. Foot massage, hand / shoulder massage, head massage, manicure / pedicures, ear cleaning, and probably some other things that I missed. Managers were wearing Hawaiian shirts, probably trying to tie into the current summer theme they've got.

Sanado shows. Others have posted about this, but I'll try to add a few more details. Shows run roughly every couple of hours, and I think they vary the theme between shows. I caught two. One Hawaiian themed show with the girls in short fake grass skirts and just leis on top (bare breasted. Very nice!) and one pirate themed show complete with hats (very strange). And of course they never wear panties. They perform for 6 rounds, moving over to the next guy after each round. IIRC, the order was ear nibbling / licking, breast fondling, chest nibbling / licking, lap dance, breast to chest rub, and mini-HJ. Numbers are hard to see because the girls move so fast and your eyes are never on the rather small number plates anyway. If you see a girl you like, pick quickly. I had a hard time picking out any Viet girls. They all looked Chinese to me (and I'm ethnic Chinese myself). If there are any, I think it's only a couple.

Mandarin obviously is most useful if you want to chat up the girls. Pretty much none of the red jackets or the girls spoke any English, although I think some can read a little bit. In talking to my girl, I found out that the girls work 14 hour shifts (hers was 9pm to 11am). Add on the time in makeup, they have at most 8 hours outside of the sauna before they go back. I'm pretty sure they need to sleep some too. I don't think the girls can arbitrarily take a day off without jeopardizing their future employment at the club, so combined with the 7 day visas I suspect extracurricular activities would be limited. I did get some outside contact information, so I will attempt to do more digging if I get a chance.[/QUOTE]If you plan to stay overnight at Sanado, make sure you are not over 6'. I am 6' and barely fit in the bed. Also, I was woken up by snoring from the guy above me. The room itself is way in the back and very quiet. Sanado is a good option for staying overnight as long as it is not crowded.

[QUOTE=Ungus;1189128]If you plan to stay overnight at Sanado, make sure you are not over 6'. I am 6' and barely fit in the bed. Also, I was woken up by snoring from the guy above me. The room itself is way in the back and very quiet. Sanado is a good option for staying overnight as long as it is not crowded.[/QUOTE]That's probably true (I am not that tall, so I can't verify unless I bring my measuring tape.). If you do use the overnight room, the bunks towards the back of room are a better option as you won't get disturbed by people going in and out of the room.

[QUOTE=Random932;1189159]That's probably true (I am not that tall, so I can't verify unless I bring my measuring tape.). If you do use the overnight room, the bunks towards the back of room are a better option as you won't get disturbed by people going in and out of the room.[/QUOTE]And I would definitely avoid weekends, difficult to find a vacant spot and quite noisy.

Was staying here so I tried it. I got the 870mop Viet Choice girl. 90 mins, start BBBJ, mish, spooning, mish to complete 1st pop. 2nd pop was doggie, mish and complete with HJ. She was 21 and very cute.

Overall for that price it was fine. Also, the other girls albeit a few were not worth the 1700-1800mop ticketed.

Was down at the Lisboa racetrack for a few minutes today and there were some stunners there for sure. I still am leary of the dead fish syndrome there. There was a somewhat cute Chinese girl that approached me to launder gaming chips though. She wanted to be friends and followed me outside while holding nice small talk. Alas, the talent in Macau never ends.

PC out

[QUOTE=Midas Touch; 1182837]3rd. Encounter. Chinese Girl from Venetian Casino. .

Day 4, After gambling the whole day at Galaxy and other different casinos, I ended up losing money, [/QUOTE]You have discovered the secret of Macau: The only way you can win is by spending with the ladies! Nice report.

First time in Macau after I took the ferry from HK. I had some things to do in Macau so I didn't go straight to Darling 1. I noticed that on the second floor of the ferry building there's a covered walkway that drops you off right around the corner where the Darling 1 elevator is.

Anyway, after I was done in Macau, I decided to hit up Darling 1 on the way back to the ferry. I really like the reports on Darling 2, but I just didn't want to fuss with cab drivers and what not on this trip. I'm willing to eat the added cost for a more hassle-free experience since I didn't have much time.

So I head over to the Jai Alai casino. I see the neon sign for Darling 1 on the corner and the elevator nearby. Some older reports say it's on the 2nd floor, but it's actually the third. Not to worry as the buttons inside the elevator are labeled. I get off the elevator to see what looks like a dark bar and a couple of cheerful workers guide me in. The room has a bunch of booth like seating areas in the middle and then around the edge of the room the girls are sitting under lights. One thing that is annoying about the room is the presence of large mirrored pillars that block the view of parts of the room so you can't really see all the girls while sitting in one position.

As soon as I sat down, a papasan sat down next to me and started speaking Cantonese. When I signaled that I could only speak English, he left and brought over a young mamasan who speak very nice English. She explained the different colors and which nationalities they represent. Thais, Viets, and Chinese. And then the models which included some European imports. From where I was sitting, I couldn't see the area where the models were sitting. The mamasan also pointed back to the door where there was a very cute doorgirl and said she was a Chinese model and I could choose her if I wanted to. Was really tempting because she was super cute, but I was there to find a nice Vietnamese girl.

I looked over the girls and one Vietnamese girl in particular was smiling at me eagerly. She was cute, though there were a couple that were cuter in the non-model area. I figured I was there for a GFE so I might as well pick the one who wanted to go with me. After picking the girl, the mamasan led me to the side where I paid the fee. I then asked to go to the restroom while the girl got ready.

Once everything was good to go the girl took my hand and led me to the room. We walked forever through a damn labyrinth before we got there. The room itself was really nice. There was a gigantic bathroom with a huge tub at the end. In the other room is a little closet to hang your clothes in and a large bed. Everything was nice and clean.

We both stripped down and I realized the girl I picked had an amazing body. I couldn't really tell when I picked her, but she had these large firm perky breasts. A little bit of baby fat on the tummy, but otherwise a very nice body.

Not really sure what to do, I just sat on the bed naked while she went to fill up the bath. When she came back I was expecting some massage or cuddling or something, but she dove right in and started giving me a BBBJ. I was actually a bit uncomfortable because I'd been walking around Macau all day and was still feeling nasty and sweaty. But she kept right at it and her oral skills were quite impressive.

Once the bath was ready, she led me over and I got in the tub. What followed was the most attentive and involved bath experience I've ever had. I've done some of the high end soapies in BKK before, but what this girl did in the tub was better than what I've had before. I don't really remember everything that happened, but there was a lot of soap rubbing, every once in a while she would rinse off my penis and launch into a BBBJ, a few position shifts, and a naked lap dance. All the while she was smiling, flirty, and enthusiastic which made it so much better.

After she signaled we were done with the tub, I toweled off and went to the other room. The rest of the session was great with lots of GFE. She asked me to DATY and I was happy to oblige. Anyway, we finished and just had time to cuddle a bit before time was up.

All in all a great experience. Was a little pricey compared to other mongering destinations, but I enjoyed the great service with no hassle. Hopefully next time I'm in the area I'll have more time and will be able to hit up the large well-known saunas.

I know this is a stupid question but where is D2? I've been to Macau three times and couldn't find it. D1 was great though.

I will be back in November. Apart from D2, any recent reports on Big Boss?

Cheers.

TV

I've been several times and always took a cab. All drivers know where to go. Cabs are available outside for your return journey.

NS.

[QUOTE=The Voice; 1200734]I know this is a stupid question but where is D2? I've been to Macau three times and couldn't find it. D1 was great though.

I will be back in November. Apart from D2, any recent reports on Big Boss?

Cheers.

TV[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=The Voice; 1200734]I know this is a stupid question but where is D2? I've been to Macau three times and couldn't find it.

TV[/QUOTE]From your post, you're apparently asking about Darling 2.

(quick note: be sure to decipher between D2 (the dance club across from the Emporer Hotel) and Darling 2 if you get in a cab)

Practically all the spots discussed on the board (D2, Lisboa, Lion's Bar, MP3, Sonado, Rio, East Spa. 18, Darling 1, Ferry, etc.) are within walking distance with the exception of Darling 2 (and Hou Va is a bit out of the way too).

Both Hou Va and Darling 2 are on the OTHER SIDE of the Light House hill, but you can get to them easily by taxi.

The official address for Darling 2 is:

89 Avenido do Ouvidor Arriaga

It's just north (northeast) of the main boulevard Avenida de Horta e Costa (the tunnel through the Light House hill). The door entry is on the street level.

P.S.: D2 (across from Emporer) is not easily seen in the day, it has a small cardboard sign in a window two (or three) floors up within the AIA Tower.

[QUOTE=Richmond72;1200415]I took the ferry from HK. I noticed that on the second floor of the ferry building there's a covered walkway that drops you off right around the corner where the Darling 1 elevator is.[/QUOTE]Yes, there's a walkway that takes you away from the ferry terminal. You'll arrive by ferry on the first floor, you can get to the walkway either inside the terminal (from the 2nd floor) or just outside the terminal. If you're going to take it to Darling 1, take it ALL THE WAY to the end, keeping TO THE RIGHT all the way (there are many other exits off to the left for you to exit the walkway) and then U-TURN down the escalator and just to your right are the stairs into the building to get to the elevator to Darling 1.

You can also pick up many of the free hotel shuttles (MGM, Venetian, etc.) to other parts of town.

Enjoy!

P. S. : if arriving by ferry and you're not familiar with Macau, make sure to drop by the visitor's center in the ferry terminal to pick up a map.

Just want to say the info on the forum is awesome, and hope to add my own on first visit to Macau when we arrive Oct 1st to Oct 4th.

Staying at Metropark Hotel.

My question is this:

I have read a lot but it's not abundantly clear, so can someone tell me how it goes in each type of Sauna? Here's what I see to understand:

Darling 1 and 2 seem like the Brazilian Termas where you go in there, see a girl you like, go to the room and do the deed. Correct?

What's confusing is the other spas named such as Sauna 18.

It seems like you go in there, strip naked and get showered communally and are walking around naked? Maybe I read it wrong, but I prefer non communal showers (other guys dicks doesn't really do much for me LOL) and for the showering to be done with the girl after you've picked her.

Would be good if someone could do a brief listing of Saunas and what the rough idea is as you go in, ie, need to shower, need a robe, don't need a shower and normal clothes etc.

Appreciate any replies in advance. Anyone needs help with London, give me a nudge.

[QUOTE=Gringo147;1200929]I have read a lot but it's not abundantly clear, so can someone tell me how it goes in each type of Sauna?[/QUOTE]I have not been to Darling 1 or 2, but understand they are like the soapies in Thailand, you walk in and the girls are in a fish bowl (or a line-up) , you pick one and go to a room for the deed. Maybe others can clarify further.

I have been to 18 and Rio and they are different. You go to the others to do the deed, you go to 18 and Rio to live it up, spend time, lounge around and get extras (if you desire). Yes, you do have to strip from your clothes (in a locker room) , but you can go and get a robe right away (just ask where) and can wear it at all times (except the shower of course). Now, most others wear it at all times, but you will see quite a few who walk around naked. I just focus on the girls. The showers are walled off separately, but it is a slightly open area. 18 has a nice extra (by the pool, outside of the showers) where a girl will wash you down, front and back, head to toe (and of course the middle) where you sit on a chair naked while others could be walking around. But you can choose not to take this extra.

If you wish to use the pool, then it's all naked for everybody.

Every hour or hour and a half (depending how busy business is) , the girls walk out onto the floor for viewing and choosing (I will talk about strategies for this in a moment). Most guys are in their robes as everyone checks the girls out.

You can be wearing anything when you arrive, it won't matter. You get your robe and then shower (or vice-versa). Also, FYI, besides the shower, most places also have toothbrushes (toothpaste) , mouthwash, razors and shaving cream if you want to freshen up. You can shower as many times as you wish.

When there girls aren't there for choosing, you're in the lounge, reading, eating, sleeping, whatever.

Now, when the girls come out, ya got to be prepared. Your first time you will NOT be ready for it. I wasn't. You might just want to take it all in the first time then prepare for the next show. Again, this is for 18, my suggestion.

Get a spot just a bit outside the door that the girls come out from. It happens so fast, it's hard to take them all in. You got to check each one out as they wiz by, all the time remembering to check out their number IF you are interested. Sometimes it's 50, sometimes it's 100 girls, so it's really tough. You can wait til they all come out or you can start following the line where all the girls are. You can double check your choice or re-look over the line-up again. The girls are out there for about 5 minutes before they go away. BE CAREFUL, many of them are picked up quite quickly, so if you snooze, you may lose. If you have decided on a girl, tell one of the guys working the floor the girl's number that you want and he'll take your number down.

When you have given your number to one of the workers, go back to the lounge, right at the entry way is a counter. Show them your number and someone will come by shortly to take you downstairs to the room where your pleasure WILL BEGIN.

Maybe others can check my facts, but from what I understand:

Saunas (w / the fish bowl, line-up) : Darling 1, Darling 2 and Hou Va.

Saunas (w / the lounge and all the extras) : 18, Rio, Big Boss, East Spa, Sonado.

Again, haven't been to most, so please correct (or add to) the list as necessary.

RTFF for great posts regarding ALL these locations.

[QUOTE=IlleagleFun; 1201121]Maybe others can check my facts, but from what I understand:

Saunas (w / the lounge and all the extras) : 18, Rio, Big Boss, East Spa, Sonado.[/QUOTE]Rio. The girls come out and walk around the lounge area. This is just a signal that ShowTime is about to begin. Those punters that are interested go upstairs to the viewing room where after a few minutes the girls will enter and walk around the room. Usually there are 60 or more girls in a line up. You have plenty of time to size up who's who. The difficulty is making a choice because there are quite a few stunners. Don't sweat it though. I have never made a bad choice.

East Spa is a little different. In East you get a show while relaxing in your lounge chair. It is naughty musical chairs situation. The girls come out and walk around the punters. When the music stops they jump on the guy closest to them and breath in his ears or rub their breasts / thighs on you. Then the music starts up again and the girls continue to walk around the punters. The music stops and a different girl lands on your lap. It is fun the first couple of times you experience it, but it is hard to choose because everything happens so fast. When the show is over the girls line up in front of the lounge area and the prettiest girls are picked fast.

I do not recall seeing any guys walking around nude except in the locker room while getting dressed and in the shower area and even then 99% will wrap a towel around their waist after they leave their shower cubicle. It is all very discreet. No one is interested in you or your body. Everbody acts with respect and class. These suanas are high end men's club. Everyone comes here for the girls and to relax. In Rio a male attendant will help you changing your clothes and stowing everything safely in your locker. In East Spa it is a female attendant that assists you. If you come in the afternoon, management might ask if you want a private lineup rather than waiting for showtime. It is just you and maybe 15 girls. I went this route once at East Spa and once at Nobre.

Thanks guys, yes I meant darling 2.

Awesome info guys, all very clear now. .

I assume "the crackdown" won't affect these places?

[QUOTE=Gringo147; 1201318]Awesome info guys, all very clear now. .

I assume "the crackdown" won't affect these places?[/QUOTE]Prositution is legal in macau, so no crack downs. There was a "crack down" in the ventian but they they only cleared the casion floors in ventian from what I read here.

Maybe the management did not what to have so many girls hanging around on the casion floors.

[QUOTE=Ibn Buttita;1181758]--- Tall, curvy, with an incredibly cute face and a beaming smile, Chou Anh matched perfectly my vision of the kind of Chinese girl I wanted to give me the full sauna experience. --- I had planned to keep it to one sex session that night, but the shows can be tempting. I was also intrigued by one girl with porcelain skin and beautiful eyes who I would have sworn was European, possibly a Macanese with her Portuguese heritage outweighing the Chinese. So I discarded fiscal responsibility and chose her. She turned out to be from somewhere in south China. --- After I woke up I headed upstairs to wash up in the shower room. Guess who I saw there: Chou Anh, in her nurse costume, was at a computer surfing the internet. After our session I had told her that I would try to see her the next day, but I never really expected it to work out. So this was definitely a sign. I wished her good morning and asked her to join me in the lounge while I was having breakfast. Chou Anh sat on the arm of my lounger as I ate, and we chatted, entertained by the challenges posed by her few words of English and my reliance on a Cantonese phrase cheat-sheet with Chinese characters and their English translations. Showing that phrase list to Chou Anh was a great ice-breaker, as was drawing pictures of the place I live, things I had seen, etc. We eventually moved on to the room. ---[/QUOTE]Mr. Buttita, sorry for the late inquiry but I just revisited the Macau Sauna thread in preparation for a planned Oct or Nov trip. Three sessions at East – what did that cost? Do you know if there are discounts for a second, third session? With the other services you tried, you must have dropped a bundle.

About those cheat-sheets, how did you put them together and how did you write it up? If you used a translation website was there a problem since many words in sexually-oriented phrases are slang or have more common, non-sexual translations? And how did you write the list up? I assume Chinese characters or the Thai alphabet don't mean anything to you and Chinese (I don't know about the others) pronunciation is tonal and difficult to write phonetically.

Three sessions at Golden, one a two-hour threesome – you must be a young man. And that afternoon rendevousz with the Indonesian Amazon – was that a freebie? If not, can you share the price and how you arrived at it. I have had some experience with the saunas but my goal for my next trip is to hook-up outside the sauna.

A note on the Midas Touch 08-01-11 post, Mr. Touch noted that he was charged 920MOP for 2 rounds of sex at Hou Va. I think this is the arrived-by-taxi rate. Usually the manager asks how you arrived – I walk. She has even gone outside to make sure no taxi is waiting. The price list has two columns on it, one taxi, one no-taxi. I paid 620 for the same service back in January. At 920 – Hou Va would lose its designation as the budget-monger's destination, probably a deal-killer given the very modest facilities.

Trip Report:-

- Darling 1, set up similar to Thailand, chose from stage. Advantages you can sit have a drink and make a choice. Different nationalities. Cost approx 1, 600 mop includes massage and a pop.

- Sauna 18, different concept, enjoy the sauna, steam & other services such as assisted bath, leg, shoulder, head, thigh message etc for this services you pay on top of the cost of sauna however if you chose a lady the cost of sauna not included on the bill. Advantage you can chill and at show time which takes place approx every half an hour there is a parade of some 50+ ladies. Remember the number and tell the assistant. If you like a number make sure that she is taken out of the line up otherwise another punter will put his name and you either wait or chose another lady. 2,400 mop as I had some additional services. Had a great time with the lady.

- Fortune Sauna, similar to 18 sauna but no show time, limited choice. Cost of extra and ladies slightly cheaper the sauna 18. 1,800 mop as I opted for additional services such as foot message and ear cleaning.

- Tin Vong, chose from a line up, approx 15 ladies, small reception area. 1,200 with tip. No sauna straight to business after an bath. Do get a little message but facilities not great. Ok if you service without sauna and a cheaper option.

- Playmate, drinks bar set up. Take a lady for 1, 500. Can have a lady sit with you for a lady prink 69 mop. Give you an opportunity to talk and decide if you want to take the service.

- Darling 2. A good option. Company of two ladies less then 1, 600, view window, good rooms.

Conclusion:- Food and taxis are cheap however fun expensive and not a lot of GFE compared to T land and other places. For me it will not be a repeat however one has to experience to decide. Did not gamble and was not there for the casino

Thanks for writing, Gbartoli, but no need for such formality. No "Mr." required!

[QUOTE=Gbartoli;1201690]Mr. Buttita, sorry for the late inquiry but I just revisited the Macau Sauna thread in preparation for a planned Oct or Nov trip. Three sessions at East – what did that cost? Do you know if there are discounts for a second, third session? With the other services you tried, you must have dropped a bundle.[/QUOTE]I sent the cost breakdown below to a fellow mongerer who inquired; this includes the entire trip cost (Jakarta, Macau, Pattaya). There were discounts for sessions after the first at East and Golden, but I don't remember how much the discounts were. Overall in Macau I did drop a bundle, but it was worth it; where I would have changed my spending there would have been in having the willpower to skip the second East girl (but I was happy I repeated with Chou Anh) , and shortening the Indonesian girl threesome at Golden. The extra services were actually priced reasonably. The saving grace for Macau was that, except days I spent with friends, the sauna stays covered all my food and lodging expenses. Here is what I wrote the fellow ISGer who asked:

For flights, a main reason I went is that I found a great price from the Middle East to Jakarta and out of Bangkok for under $700. Jakarta to Hong Kong was a bit pricey, about $250 on Garuda, and Air Asia Macau to Bangkok was about $150. Ferries, airport taxis, etc. Internally cost maybe just over $100 total.

Accommodation was in $35 hotels, so say under $200 for that, and a bonus was the free lodging in Macau in the saunas.

Food was cheap (and tasty) , and free in the Macau saunas, so I'd guess under $100 for the trip. I bought some souvenirs in Jakarta as well, but am not including those.

Ok, the big category, the girls. I don't event want to do the dollar conversion here, but I will.

Jakarta: Around 5 Million Rupiah for about 15 1-hour sessions with about 20 girls (about $575)

Macau: Ouch. 5 saunas. 9 girls. 12 sessions for about 15, 000 Patacas (just under $2, 000) , but including food and 3 nights lodging.

Pattaya: 13 girls (sessions are hard to figure here) for about 28, 000 Baht (about $1, 000)

Grand total: About $5, 000. $1, 500 for non-mongering expenses, and $3, 500 for girls (though again the Macau sauna's straddle that dividing line).

[QUOTE=Gbartoli;1201690]About those cheat-sheets, how did you put them together and how did you write it up? If you used a translation website was there a problem since many words in sexually-oriented phrases are slang or have more common, non-sexual translations? And how did you write the list up? I assume Chinese characters or the Thai alphabet don't mean anything to you and Chinese (I don't know about the others) pronunciation is tonal and difficult to write phonetically.[/QUOTE]The vocabulary sheets all came via web searches for lists of naughty words. The Vietnamese was easiest, some guy had done an academic paper on it and had it up as a pdf file. For the Chinese I used one I put together years ago from this site and from elsewhere on the net where I found with images of the Chinese characters. There are a fair number of Thai language sites for "romantic" (aka bar girl) phrases. I am sure all my attempts at pronunciation were absolutely horrible, but the nice thing about having the characters in each language (besides a phonetic version) was that the girls could just read the words off the sheet when I pointed to them.

[QUOTE=Gbartoli;1201690]Three sessions at Golden, one a two-hour threesome – you must be a young man. And that afternoon rendevousz with the Indonesian Amazon – was that a freebie? If not, can you share the price and how you arrived at it. I have had some experience with the saunas but my goal for my next trip is to hook-up outside the sauna.[/QUOTE]I'm not too young and not too old, I guess. And I don't come close to some of the exploits described on ISG! Spending so much time at the saunas, there was enough time to recover between sessions, with food and wellness offerings that helped. As for the afternoon liaison with the Indonesian girl, it ended up being an complicated afternoon, more emotional than physical, so no money changed hands. I was happy she invited me though and it could be a good change of pace from the saunas, but there are issues of language, girls' schedules, and their lodging to consider.

Have a great time!

[QUOTE=Ibn Buttita; 1202031]Thanks for writing, Gbartoli, but no need for such formality. No "Mr." required!

I sent the cost breakdown below to a fellow mongerer who inquired; this includes the entire trip cost (Jakarta, Macau, Pattaya). There were discounts for sessions after the first at East and Golden, but I don't remember how much the discounts were. Overall in Macau I did drop a bundle, but it was worth it; where I would have changed my spending there would have been in having the willpower to skip the second East girl (but I was happy I repeated with Chou Anh) , and shortening the Indonesian girl threesome at Golden. The extra services were actually priced reasonably. The saving grace for Macau was that, except days I spent with friends, the sauna stays covered all my food and lodging expenses. Here is what I wrote the fellow ISGer who asked:

For flights, a main reason I went is that I found a great price from the Middle East to Jakarta and out of Bangkok for under $700. Jakarta to Hong Kong was a bit pricey, about $250 on Garuda, and Air Asia Macau to Bangkok was about $150. Ferries, airport taxis, etc. Internally cost maybe just over $100 total.

Accommodation was in $35 hotels, so say under $200 for that, and a bonus was the free lodging in Macau in the saunas.

Food was cheap (and tasty) , and free in the Macau saunas, so I'd guess under $100 for the trip. I bought some souvenirs in Jakarta as well, but am not including those.

Ok, the big category, the girls. I don't event want to do the dollar conversion here, but I will.

Jakarta: Around 5 Million Rupiah for about 15 1-hour sessions with about 20 girls (about $575)

Macau: Ouch. 5 saunas. 9 girls. 12 sessions for about 15, 000 Patacas (just under $2, 000) , but including food and 3 nights lodging.

Pattaya: 13 girls (sessions are hard to figure here) for about 28, 000 Baht (about $1, 000)

Grand total: About $5, 000. $1, 500 for non-mongering expenses, and $3, 500 for girls (though again the Macau sauna's straddle that dividing line).

The vocabulary sheets all came via web searches for lists of naughty words. The Vietnamese was easiest, some guy had done an academic paper on it and had it up as a pdf file. For the Chinese I used one I put together years ago from this site and from elsewhere on the net where I found with images of the Chinese characters. There are a fair number of Thai language sites for "romantic" (aka bar girl) phrases. I am sure all my attempts at pronunciation were absolutely horrible, but the nice thing about having the characters in each language (besides a phonetic version) was that the girls could just read the words off the sheet when I pointed to them.

I'm not too young and not too old, I guess. And I don't come close to some of the exploits described on ISG! Spending so much time at the saunas, there was enough time to recover between sessions, with food and wellness offerings that helped. As for the afternoon liaison with the Indonesian girl, it ended up being an complicated afternoon, more emotional than physical, so no money changed hands. I was happy she invited me though and it could be a good change of pace from the saunas, but there are issues of language, girls' schedules, and their lodging to consider.

Have a great time![/QUOTE]Ibn Buttita.

Compliments on your endeavors.

Doing 42 girls in a trip is above and beyond true monger dedication.

Christ, most men don't do 42 women in their life!

You set a great example in getting the most bang for your buck. I agree Macau, is worth every penny for the supreme service rendered.

I try to average 1. 5 to 2 women a day on monger trips although it may take the help of a little blue pill for my upcoming month long pussy sojourn.

Well done sir.

Guido88

[QUOTE=Guido88;1202054]Ibn Buttita. Compliments on your endeavors. Doing 42 girls in a trip is above and beyond true monger dedication. Christ, most men don't do 42 women in their life! You set a great example in getting the most bang for your buck. I agree Macau, is worth every penny for the supreme service rendered. I try to average 1. 5 to 2 women a day on monger trips although it may take the help of a little blue pill for my upcoming month long pussy sojourn. Well done sir. Guido88[/QUOTE]Guido 88: First a "Mr.", now a "Sir", I'm not worthy! I appreciate the compliments, although now I kind of feel like I should look in to some sort of sex addiction class. You are so right about Macau saunas being a worthwhile investment (as are the pills on these kinds of trips). Thanks again!

In Macau for a few days, want to make sure I have the best experience I can in my limited free time. Any help you could fellas could give is greatly appreciated. A few of my preferences:

. Very interested in a Sauna with high quality, low mileage women. Prefer asian, petite, GFE. Model quality if possible.

. Like the concept of a few hours at a Sauna with an opening bath / shower + HJ / BJ, then select a girl for extended play.

. I love waxed / shaved, is it hard to find in Macau?

. Would like nice drinks, high quality food during lounge time. Clean atmosphere is important.

. A nice ending with a massage and a pro HJ would be great.

.3-4 hours of fun, willing to spend 2000HKG if I need to, but want a great experience.

Any advice. Staying at the Venetian or Mandarin Oriental. I can't tell you how grateful I would be with advice from some pros. Thansk.

[QUOTE=Mentorz06; 1202080]In Macau for a few days, want to make sure I have the best experience I can in my limited free time. Any help you could fellas could give is greatly appreciated. A few of my preferences:

Very interested in a Sauna with high quality, low mileage women. Prefer asian, petite, GFE. Model quality if possible.

Like the concept of a few hours at a Sauna with an opening bath / shower + HJ / BJ, then select a girl for extended play.

I love waxed / shaved, is it hard to find in Macau?

Would like nice drinks, high quality food during lounge time. Clean atmosphere is important.

A nice ending with a massage and a pro HJ would be great.

3-4 hours of fun, willing to spend 2000HKG if I need to, but want a great experience.

Any advice. Staying at the Venetian or Mandarin Oriental. I can't tell you how grateful I would be with advice from some pros. Thansk.[/QUOTE]Mentorz06.

Everything you want is in Macau.

However to narrow things down you need to read the forum.

Guido88

[QUOTE=Ibn Buttita;1202065]Guido 88: First a "Mr.", now a "Sir", I'm not worthy! I appreciate the compliments, although now I kind of feel like I should look in to some sort of sex addiction class. You are so right about Macau saunas being a worthwhile investment (as are the pills on these kinds of trips). Thanks again![/QUOTE]Maybe we can get a group rate on the Sex Addiction class?

[QUOTE=Ungus;1189124]I just went to Darling 2 last night and it was 1188. Did the price recently go up? They even had a sign up on the wall with the new price.[/QUOTE]Price at Darling 2 is 1188 now and only 1 pop. Can negotiate another pop with the girl, my mate said she asked for 500, but I suppose that's open to negotiation.

I would like to echo Guido's comments; Ibn Buttita, I've gone through your posts and really appreciate the effort you've gone to in writing them up! Thanks!

[QUOTE=Guido88; 1202054]Ibn Buttita.

Compliments on your endeavors.

Doing 42 girls in a trip is above and beyond true monger dedication.

Christ, most men don't do 42 women in their life!

You set a great example in getting the most bang for your buck. I agree Macau, is worth every penny for the supreme service rendered.

I try to average 1. 5 to 2 women a day on monger trips although it may take the help of a little blue pill for my upcoming month long pussy sojourn.

Well done sir.

Guido88[/QUOTE]

Thanks to all posters who made the following possible.

Visited Darling 1 behind Jai Alai Casino last week while in Macau. Went and was greeted by a cute little hostess who offered a drink, explained how it worked and the prices. Of course I immediately thought of her. Don't we always. Anyway, I could choose from the fishbowl of 20-30 good looking asian WLs for $HK 1568 (exact price!) or I could choose from taller, leggy "models" that included acouple of eastern european blonds for $HK1800. I kept my eye on the fish bowl and selected Hanna (103) as she seemed to give me a "fuck me" look and I rather liked her "Amy Winehouse" eye makeup. Hanna was 23 from HCM, petite. 42-45 kgs, enhanced 34C boobs and a lovely runway strip. Off to the room and for the next 75 minutes it seemed like my dick was either in her hand, her mouth or in her! She seemed to love what she was doing, appreciated extensive caressing, fingering and DATY. After the first BBBJTC, we played in the spa and then onto the bed for a second session. She encouraged me using her mouth and hands for a second pop in a spoon position. For me this girl was great. She seemed to know that an older gent like myself needed a lot of assistance. She smiled a lot and make the right sounds even saying that she loved the DATY.

After a wash, a very spent Tubbyone left the building.

Once again my thanks to forum contributors and Jackson, I have just renewed my recently expired subscription as we all should do.

Hi. Great forum.

1st time visitor to Macau, going next week. Have 1 whole Sat night and most of Sun day. Want to get the most out of my time there.

What are the prices for East Spa? I liked the little dance and all routine the girls do there.

Also, if you have one whole night only like me, what do you suggest for a bit of action, nice viewing all night, atmostphere. East Spa / D2or something else?

Thanks

[QUOTE=DonnieJay; 1207679]Hi. Great forum.

1st time visitor to Macau, going next week. Have 1 whole Sat night and most of Sun day. Want to get the most out of my time there.

What are the prices for East Spa? I liked the little dance and all routine the girls do there.

Also, if you have one whole night only like me, what do you suggest for a bit of action, nice viewing all night, atmostphere. East Spa / D2or something else?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Golden sauna has shows all week to and familia nobel on weekends. They are much cheaper then east spa, as I remeber I payed 1500 or almost 1600 while the other tow are in the 1200 to 1300 range.

Be careful not to mix up D2 with darling 2. D2 or better DD is a club / disco with also a lot of PI / Indo girls, but its more a pick up place.

For saturdays I recommend to do a early deed at darling 1, then some casinos then spent the whole afternoon and evening in a sauna. Saturday between 10 and midnight is the peak of the peak time. Most girls, most selection.

After that head for DD club, listen to the music, try to score a girl to take back to your hotel.

Thats what I do almost all days when I am there.

[QUOTE=Osuul; 1207774]For GFE pic ups in bars a better, the sauna girls in Macau do have a nice routine but its still a routine. Specially so girls do have 5 or more cutomers a day. Can't expect that they put all their heard into it.

Multiple pops is rare. I only know that place across Royal hotel that offers 2 pops for 600. But its no sauna. Just a lttle run down brothel. But I had a viet girl in there that gave some nice GFE.[/QUOTE]I think there are no saunas in HKG like in Macau, mostly MPs with one session. K Pressure and 37 Dundas are recommended on the forum. I plan to be 2-3 days in HKG and 3-4 days during week in Macau.

In Macau, I think you are referring to Hou Va Sauna for 2 pops near Royal hotel. That is on my list. I may also visit Sanado Sauna during day time special. Also on my list is Rio, I know it is expensive but I read it is tranquil environment and pleasant to spend many hours there, a must see if in Macau. In German FKK I typically spend 7-8 hours at the club and have 3-5 sessions. I would like to do the same in Macau but it seems prices are through the roof. I guess I will have to look for PI or IN girls for overnighter. I will post this to Macao post as well.

[QUOTE=Hedonian; 1208076]I think there are no saunas in HKG like in Macau, mostly MPs with one session. K Pressure and 37 Dundas are recommended on the forum. I plan to be 2-3 days in HKG and 3-4 days during week in Macau.

In Macau, I think you are referring to Hou Va Sauna for 2 pops near Royal hotel. That is on my list. I may also visit Sanado Sauna during day time special. Also on my list is Rio, I know it is expensive but I read it is tranquil environment and pleasant to spend many hours there, a must see if in Macau. In German FKK I typically spend 7-8 hours at the club and have 3-5 sessions. I would like to do the same in Macau but it seems prices are through the roof. I guess I will have to look for PI or IN girls for overnighter. I will post this to Macao post as well.[/QUOTE]Sanado and the Rio both offer quality service in a nice environment.

However Hou Va is a dump. IMHO.

Poor selection of girls in tiny cramped smelly rooms. This was the only bad experience I had in Macau.

If you are accustomed to the FKK experience you will be disappointed at Hou Va.

Bring plenty of money and you will have a great time at the other spas.

Guido88

[QUOTE=Hedonian; 1208076]I think there are no saunas in HKG like in Macau, mostly MPs with one session. K Pressure and 37 Dundas are recommended on the forum. I plan to be 2-3 days in HKG and 3-4 days during week in Macau.

In Macau, I think you are referring to Hou Va Sauna for 2 pops near Royal hotel. That is on my list. I may also visit Sanado Sauna during day time special. Also on my list is Rio, I know it is expensive but I read it is tranquil environment and pleasant to spend many hours there, a must see if in Macau. In German FKK I typically spend 7-8 hours at the club and have 3-5 sessions. I would like to do the same in Macau but it seems prices are through the roof. I guess I will have to look for PI or IN girls for overnighter. I will post this to Macao post as well.[/QUOTE]You are right, prices are totaly through the roof. And every time I come to macao (and that used to be every few month) they added another 50 or 100 HK$.

Since I know german FKK I can compare that pretty good (mostlya Samya in colonge). In Rio you pay 1800 to 2100 for one hour. But keep in mind that 30 minutes of that is a massage on a tabel / bath tub. So compared to the

50 Euro you pay for 30 minutes in a FKK in germany the time / price ratio is very bad. Since I have about 12 Macao imigration stamps in my passport now I try to skip or shorten the massage part as much as possible.

If you are new to this you will have the time of your life. Also in the cheaper saunas the stunner ratio is not so high but if there are 35 of 40 or 10 of 30 stunners does not matter to me. There is still 10 stunners in the cheaper.

Sauna. And the facilities in for example familia noble might not be as flashy as RIOs but still good and clean. So why borther.

Anyway since my my first time in macao was in RIO and I had a simle on my face for 2 hours I would recommend the same for a first timer.

A good alternative is darling 1. Just do both.

Anyway the good thing at darling 1 there is more girls for Thailand that speak english so you have a good change of making some arrangements for later. I did so.

Nothing better then a sauna girl for overnight for 1000 HK$. Best value.

Anyway I wrote something about each sauna, bar, disco a few pages back I you want to check that out.

I will be in asia in December again. I am tempted to go to Macao and / or HK since HK and Macao are so easy, safe and fun but soooooo expensive. Can believe I pay less for p4p then here in Germany.

I guess its time for Thailand, indonesia or the PI again. Thing is you can get all those in Macao and HK but for 3 times the cost.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Tubbyone; 1204908]Thanks to all posters who made the following possible.

Visited Darling 1 behind Jai Alai Casino last week while in Macau. Went and was greeted by a cute little hostess who offered a drink, explained how it worked and the prices. Of course I immediately thought of her. Don't we always. Anyway, I could choose from the fishbowl of 20-30 good looking asian WLs for $HK 1568 (exact price!) or I could choose from taller, leggy "models" that included acouple of eastern european blonds for $HK1800. I kept my eye on the fish bowl and selected Hanna (103) as she seemed to give me a "fuck me" look and I rather liked her "Amy Winehouse" eye makeup. Hanna was 23 from HCM, petite. 42-45 kgs, enhanced 34C boobs and a lovely runway strip. Off to the room and for the next 75 minutes it seemed like my dick was either in her hand, her mouth or in her! She seemed to love what she was doing, appreciated extensive caressing, fingering and DATY. After the first BBBJTC, we played in the spa and then onto the bed for a second session. She encouraged me using her mouth and hands for a second pop in a spoon position. For me this girl was great. She seemed to know that an older gent like myself needed a lot of assistance. She smiled a lot and make the right sounds even saying that she loved the DATY.

After a wash, a very spent Tubbyone left the building.

Once again my thanks to forum contributors and Jackson, I have just renewed my recently expired subscription as we all should do.[/QUOTE]I have to concur that Hana is great but I thought her number was 301 or maybe she changed it.

Hana was supposed to leave Macau in early September and I am wondering if you were there then or she has extended her stay?

I am heading to Macau early November and I am wondering if she would still be there.

Have you asked when she was leaving?

[QUOTE=Samata61; 1208322]I have to concur that Hana is great but I thought her number was 301 or maybe she changed it.

Hana was supposed to leave Macau in early September and I am wondering if you were there then or she has extended her stay?

I am heading to Macau early November and I am wondering if she would still be there.

Have you asked when she was leaving?[/QUOTE]I may have got the number wrong. So could be 301 or 103. I was there October 5/6. Did not ask her how long she was staying.

[QUOTE=Tubbyone;1208560]I may have got the number wrong. So could be 301 or 103. I was there October 5/6. Did not ask her how long she was staying.[/QUOTE]Depends if you were on 69 or not. 301 straight can become 103 on 69 LMAO!

Hello ISG,

I will be arriving to Macau on Sunday morning taking the ferry from HKI to Macau.

I read so much about the saunas that I need it be the first thing to do.

I know I read most the sauna reviews. But any last advise before leave tonite.

Thanks

Package around HK 1600.

If you want a double (3P) , do to Darling 2. If you want one on one, go to East Spa.

Steve.

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[QUOTE=DonnieJay; 1207679]Hi. Great forum.

1st time visitor to Macau, going next week. Have 1 whole Sat night and most of Sun day. Want to get the most out of my time there.

What are the prices for East Spa? I liked the little dance and all routine the girls do there.

Also, if you have one whole night only like me, what do you suggest for a bit of action, nice viewing all night, atmostphere. East Spa / D2or something else?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

I read somewhere in the form that you get a discount if you take the same girl for a 2nd hour at Familia Noble.

Can anyone confirm? And how much?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Campeonato; 1208780]Hello, ISG,

I will be arriving to Macau on Sunday morning taking the ferry from HKI to Macau.

I read so much about the saunas that I need it be the first thing to do.

I know I read most the sauna reviews. But any last advise before leave tonite.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Don't go so early as "first thing to do"

Although saunas are open 24/7 morning hours are not the best. Go after 2pm.

[QUOTE=Osuul; 1208142]A good alternative is darling 1. Just do both.

Anyway the good thing at darling 1 there is more girls for Thailand that speak english so you have a good change of making some arrangements for later. I did so.

Cheers[/QUOTE]Where is Darling 1 located? Do you know of a list of saunas with addresses, or even better google map with saunas on it?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Hedonian; 1209941]Where is Darling 1 located? Do you know of a list of saunas with addresses, or even better google map with saunas on it?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Posted on page 14 in the general section, if you read 10 to 15 pages you should know enough to get around all the mongering options in macao.

[url]http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=103259594851416659897.00045b9dc1d0d52567ea2&z=14[/url]

Help me out here guys. Have not been able to find Sanado looking all around the Holiday Inn area. Can't find this damned thing in Google either and the few cab drivers I talked to didn't know what I was talking about.

So does anyone have the exact address or exact building location so I can try this place out?

Thanks

[QUOTE=LincolnRobinson; 1211464]Help me out here guys. Have not been able to find Sanado looking all around the Holiday Inn area. Can't find this damned thing in Google either and the few cab drivers I talked to didn't know what I was talking about.

So does anyone have the exact address or exact building location so I can try this place out?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Dude, did you even take a look at the map posted one report prior?

Its across the street of the metropark hotel. Walk from Rio hotel right towards the lisboa, after some traffic lights and a small park, walk on the left side of the street, after a few meters (across the metropark hotel) there will a small desk on the left side with some pictures of girls and prices, walk in there, go downstairs. Sanado is in the basement.

[QUOTE=LincolnRobinson; 1211464]Help me out here guys. Have not been able to find Sanado looking all around the Holiday Inn area. Can't find this damned thing in Google either and the few cab drivers I talked to didn't know what I was talking about.

So does anyone have the exact address or exact building location so I can try this place out?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Look at the atached map.

The landmark on the left is the location of Sanado, the one on the right is Rio Hotel & Casino.

The Sanado building is a Financial Centre one.

I have passed in front of it and could not see easily, and I knew it was there.

The Holiday Inn is in the proximity but in the inner streets of the area, whilst the road of Sanado is the main one, heading to Lisboa Hotel

Follow the directions of Osuul and look at my attachment too.

More than this we can't do

[QUOTE=LincolnRobinson; 1211464]Help me out here guys. Have not been able to find Sanado looking all around the Holiday Inn area. Can't find this damned thing in Google either and the few cab drivers I talked to didn't know what I was talking about.

So does anyone have the exact address or exact building location so I can try this place out?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Take a cab to the Rio. Go out the front door from the hotel reception and make a right. Walk 100 yards or so and you will pass a small park, keep going and Sanado is on the left side of the street.

There will be a man outside to guide you downstairs to the basement location.

No way can you get lost. If you do just go to the 8th floor of the Rio their sauna is great.

Guido88

[QUOTE=Osuul; 1211622]Dude, did you even take a look at the map posted one report prior?

Its across the street of the metropark hotel. Walk from Rio hotel right towards the lisboa, after some traffic lights and a small park, walk on the left side of the street, after a few meters (across the metropark hotel) there will a small desk on the left side with some pictures of girls and prices, walk in there, go downstairs. Sanado is in the basement.[/QUOTE]Hahaha. I actually had this thread open for a week + and posted the question after I went through 10 pages or so and couldn't find an address.

Thanks to you guys that responded and I will use these directions when I get back there.

I know you go to the HK ferry terminal where they got those vendors selling packages w / ferry ticket to Macau and all, but what if you go from HK airport directly to Macau (I think there's a way to do it?) and grab a hotel within Macau for a coupla days. Is there a place to purchase good sauna packages w / o ferry ticket until I leave macau for a few days back in HK, before finally flying out of HK airport?

Thanks for answering my previous questions, everyone. Have rearranged to include 3 nights in Macau. I land in HK Sun. Night at 20:20. So, assuming my flight is not more than a half hour late (Cathay Pacific) , I will be able to make the last turbojet ferry at 22:00. Just to confirm (I saw some conflicting information on another website) , I do not need / should not pre-buy my ferry ticket? It seems according to the turbojet website that as long as I get to their ticket counter and buy the ticket an hour before departure they will be able to retrieve my checked bag. Is this correct?

I am staying at the Casa Real. Right near the ferry terminal it seems. D1 and 18 are the closest places for a Sunday midnight 1st experience. My neck has a tendency to stiffen up and after an 16 hr. Flight the availabilty of massage options I've seen discussed at Rio or Sanado sound more likely to fit the bill. The thigh massage also sounds like it might be beneficial to get a nervous pop out of the way before a main event. So which one? Will a shuttle still be running to Rio at / a little after midnight? Will cabs be readily available and will I be able to communicate with the driver without knowing any of the language? Or is it easily / advisably walkable at that time? Or am I missing that 18 also offers these massage options as a prelude to the show / selection / main event?

Also interested in feeback on FL options (possible overnight) for Mon or Tue. Will D2 be dead? I read there is overnight take out available from Darling 1. How much? Any other suggestions for FL opportunities Mon and Tuesday night (or daytime haunts)?

Appreciate the help. Will report on how things go.

[QUOTE=TheQE; 1214915]Thanks for answering my previous questions, everyone. Have rearranged to include 3 nights in Macau. I land in HK Sun. Night at 20:20. So, assuming my flight is not more than a half hour late (Cathay Pacific) , I will be able to make the last turbojet ferry at 22:00. Just to confirm (I saw some conflicting information on another website) , I do not need / should not pre-buy my ferry ticket? It seems according to the turbojet website that as long as I get to their ticket counter and buy the ticket an hour before departure they will be able to retrieve my checked bag. Is this correct?

I am staying at the Casa Real. Right near the ferry terminal it seems. D1 and 18 are the closest places for a Sunday midnight 1st experience. My neck has a tendency to stiffen up and after an 16 hr. Flight the availabilty of massage options I've seen discussed at Rio or Sanado sound more likely to fit the bill. The thigh massage also sounds like it might be beneficial to get a nervous pop out of the way before a main event. So which one? Will a shuttle still be running to Rio at / a little after midnight? Will cabs be readily available and will I be able to communicate with the driver without knowing any of the language? Or is it easily / advisably walkable at that time? Or am I missing that 18 also offers these massage options as a prelude to the show / selection / main event?

Also interested in feeback on FL options (possible overnight) for Mon or Tue. Will D2 be dead? I read there is overnight take out available from Darling 1. How much? Any other suggestions for FL opportunities Mon and Tuesday night (or daytime haunts)?

Appreciate the help. Will report on how things go.[/QUOTE]don't worry about taxis if you are staying at casa real. Its about 5 minutes by foot to the RIO. The Macao Island is only 2 km from east to west. And most taxi drivers can't speak english most times even tough they have a radio operator so we will just hand you the radio and the guy on it will translate for the driver.

For the massage part. All real saunas have real massage offered in the rest area. Foot, neck etc. The thigh massage by the way will not help to get a nervous pop out since they don't make you come only more hornier. I say real since soapies like Darling 1 and 2 don't have that.

Do not use the take out of saunas. They are way to expensive. 2500 to 3500 from what I have heard. Make private arrangements with a sauna girl (if possible, since they mostly speak no english and even that didn't stop me with my viet regular).

A bar that is a sure spot for pick ups is the mp3 bar at the water front. Its mostly filipinas. You will find freelancers in most other bars but mixed with regular party goers.

Hi.

This was my fifth visit to Macau. While I've tried the various sanuas, darlings etc, until now I hadn't visited Rio. From what I read, Rio was supposed to be the duck's nuts of Macau's saunas so I could hardly wait.

I bought a Rio voucher at the ferry terminal for $2k which was inclusive of the ferry. Went to Rio's on Thursday night as the girls were about to do the show. I was told I could pick any girl with a "heart" but one with a star will cost and extra $500. This is like most of the sauna's, including 18 but the difference was that the overwhelming majority were in the "star" category and only 8 girls in the "hearts". So despite all I heard there was not much of a choice and all 8 were average at best. I chose number 215 as she looked the prettiest of the 8. Her service was lousy. Did the usual routine but without too much emthusiasm and would not allow DATY. The session was over in 40 minutes. I get much better service at a better price from prettier Korean girls here in Australia. And that is most unusual with my Macau punts.

In short, I found Rio a disappointment and nowhere near the standard of 18. Yet this place appears to be rated highly by punters. Have I missed something?

[QUOTE=The Voice; 1217401]Hi.

This was my fifth visit to Macau. While I've tried the various sanuas, darlings etc, until now I hadn't visited Rio. From what I read, Rio was supposed to be the duck's nuts of Macau's saunas so I could hardly wait.

I bought a Rio voucher at the ferry terminal for $2k which was inclusive of the ferry. Went to Rio's on Thursday night as the girls were about to do the show. I was told I could pick any girl with a "heart" but one with a star will cost and extra $500. This is like most of the sauna's, including 18 but the difference was that the overwhelming majority were in the "star" category and only 8 girls in the "hearts". So despite all I heard there was not much of a choice and all 8 were average at best. I chose number 215 as she looked the prettiest of the 8. Her service was lousy. Did the usual routine but without too much emthusiasm and would not allow DATY. The session was over in 40 minutes. I get much better service at a better price from prettier Korean girls here in Australia. And that is most unusual with my Macau punts.

In short, I found Rio a disappointment and nowhere near the standard of 18. Yet this place appears to be rated highly by punters. Have I missed something?[/QUOTE]Rio is not for the price conservative folks.

You don't buy a Mercedes with no optionals, you select extras too.

When at a restaurant you select the menu of the day most of the dishes are the same as the a la carte, but portions are smaller.

I stay away from the HK ferry terminal vouchers as you get what you pay for. You can't get the same level of girl / service or package that you get when you pay full price.

That is a fact. Otherwise the rest of the folks would be idiot not to use the ferry voucher system.

Then one has to account for the individual girl and the chemistry you can build up.

Rio is up level also in terms of facilities, cleaning, proper rooms, large lounge, friendly staff.

Just as the 2 or 3 or 4 star hotels: rooms differ, but you are still often just sleeping there.

Depends what you are looking for.

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1217405]Rio is not for the price conservative folks.

You don't buy a Mercedes with no optionals, you select extras too.

When at a restaurant you select the menu of the day most of the dishes are the same as the a la carte, but portions are smaller.

I stay away from the HK ferry terminal vouchers as you get what you pay for. You can't get the same level of girl / service or package that you get when you pay full price.

That is a fact. Otherwise the rest of the folks would be idiot not to use the ferry voucher system.

Then one has to account for the individual girl and the chemistry you can build up.

Rio is up level also in terms of facilities, cleaning, proper rooms, large lounge, friendly staff.

Just as the 2 or 3 or 4 star hotels: rooms differ, but you are still often just sleeping there.

Depends what you are looking for.[/QUOTE]I hear what you say but nevertheless, unless I was there on a bad night, I still think the overall quality of girls were better at Sauna18. I would happily pay more for a higher standard of girls and amenities but I felt it just wasn't there at Rios. The "star" girls were not in my opinion any better than similarly or lower priced girls at 18 or D1. Their standard "heart" girls were of a much lower standard than 18, D1 or I would suggest even most of the mid level suanas in Macau. Also I would have though that being up a level would mean management wouldn't tolerate a client only getting 40 minutes of service regardless of chemistry. All they said to me was sorry and they will "talk to the girl". No offer of compensation etc.

[QUOTE=LincolnRobinson; 1211464]Help me out here guys. Have not been able to find Sanado looking all around the Holiday Inn area. Can't find this damned thing in Google either and the few cab drivers I talked to didn't know what I was talking about.

So does anyone have the exact address or exact building location so I can try this place out?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Easiest way I found was to take a cab (or walk if you have a map) to Landmark Hotel, go inside hotel, turn your back to the reception counter and walk left to the side door, exit and turn left, then take the next left turn (not to be confused with some alley, a real street) and about 70 yards / metres along there will be a counter out front, this guy speaks no english, (Chinese marketing guru at it's best) go inside and take the stairs on the left at the back of the foyer to the basement and there you are.

[QUOTE=The Voice;1217425]I hear what you say but nevertheless, unless I was there on a bad night, I still think the overall quality of girls were better at Sauna18. I would happily pay more for a higher standard of girls and amenities but I felt it just wasn't there at Rios. The "star" girls were not in my opinion any better than similarly or lower priced girls at 18 or D1. Their standard "heart" girls were of a much lower standard than 18, D1 or I would suggest even most of the mid level suanas in Macau. Also I would have though that being up a level would mean management wouldn't tolerate a client only getting 40 minutes of service regardless of chemistry. All they said to me was sorry and they will "talk to the girl". No offer of compensation etc.[/QUOTE]I fully agree on your concepts: poor management.

You can care if they talk to the girl.

At the best the next customer gets the benefit.

But you had the damage. And the chances you are back with the same girl are quite thin.

After RTFF on this wonderful site and ******. Com, I'm a bit overwhelmed.

D1, D2, 18, Sonada, East Sauna, Empire, jeez, if you had 24 hours in Macau, and as a newbie, want a great first impression, where would you choose to spend your time? What's the a la carte pricing for the "thigh massage," assisted shower, etc? Do the ladies try to upsell in the rooms say for A-levels, etc. Or are the services on a menu, as suggested in some reviews. Do you tip? And if so, what's standard? And what if during the thigh massage or assisted shower, you got carried away? And, yes, is safe sex the standard, or is it ever negotiable?

With a b2b oil massage, assisted shower, I think it's easy to accidently "slip in," without much effort.

And finally, being Chinese-American, but never having been with any Asians. Which nationality would you recommend? My preference has always been for Eastern-European, but it's pointless to see any of them in Macau, both for service reasons, and since I spend quite a bit of time in UK / Europe enjoying the FKK and other p4p venues.

Thanks!

Transit through HK with an overnight stopover. How to spend the time? Hop over to Macau, of course. Now, I've never taken the ferry direct from the airport. I was planning to this time but, arriving at about 5pm, I found out that the next one was at 7. 50pm. It must be quicker to take the train in to central and then the ferry from there. Well, not by very much. By the time I got to the ferry terminal, the next one to go was at 7. 15pm. Hardly worth it, really, considering the extra hassle and train fare, when I could have stayed in the airport lounge.

Anyway, one thing about going through the central ferry terminal is that I got to buy a package ticket to East Spa ($1860 for entrance, FS massage plus a choice of 45 min massage by two girls, BB bath, female back scrub, and some other option I've forgotten. (These are priced at $250 each, approx, so minus the approx $330 for ferry tickets, the cost of FS with the package is $1280. Well, that's one way of seeing it.)

An East Spa girl meets me at the ferry terminal, waits with me for the shuttle and soon I'm undressing in the locker area. Now the next part, I was a little confused by, probably not having RTFF enough. They give you a thin wrist thing. A bit like a hair tie. That you can give to a girl waiting by the pool, who will then wash you in the shower with a quick BBBJ. IMO, the best thing would be to do this right away and then follow it up with a BB bath with the same girl. Or a different one. Just to get you in the mood. (BB bath, by the way, involves going to another room, lying on a table and being washed and rubbed by a naked girl, using her breasts, ass, legs, everything really, plus a quick BBBJ.) An alternative would be to go for the Queen's bath, which is where the naked girl accompanies you in the pool. It's a bit more expensive ($400) and wasn't included as an option in my package. But I saw a group of four guys doing this with four girls in the same pool and it looked pretty good.

But back to what I actually did, which was to head into the sauna. It's good one, complete with cold plunge inside, which I like. From there, I could see the girls come and go. Some of them put their asses up agains the sauna's glass wall, which was nice. Mostly, they looked a little bored, playing "connect 4" and staring vacantly. Eventually, I figured out about the little black wrist things and selected a girl for the shower / BJ, which she performed in an absolutely minimal way, without any enthusiasm, not even a smile. OK. Well, dry off, pajamas on and through to the lounge area. This holds 20-30 guys in recliner chairs. While waiting, there are a number of massage-only girls, dressed in red, who'll do leg, head, foot massage for about $150 a time. One was pretty and insistent so I indulged in a head massage, which was good. Drinks. At least the basic non-alcoholic ones are free.

On to the famous show. Which was impressive. About 30 girls, all fuckable IMO, and in costume parade around the lounge and then pair up with the customers, switching after a minute or so. I attended two of these and they were different. Different costumes, different "activites" by the girls, but both included a brief BBBJ. The others were various forms of cuddling and fondling, with ass, tits, etc.

I was prepared for a mad rush to select girls after the show but in fact, I was the first. I picked 88, who later told me her name was Yan Yan, from the Lian in the NE. Tall and pretty, with nice legs, an cute little apple breasts, she turned out to be in the "model" category, which cost me an extra $300. Was it worth it? Well, I don't know. In terms of service, she was a little rushed and seemed a bit "above it all" but she was very pretty and had a sensuous manner which made me really enjoy fucking her. When it came to the sex itself, it seemed that although she would have liked to have stayed apart from it all, the woman in her just couldn't help responding to the situation.

By the time we'd finished, I was hungry. Hainanese chicken rice and dumpling soup. Not bad. I couldn't go back through to the main lounge because another show was going on. Pirate outfits this time. So they put me in a different lounge. Later I went back to the sauna / pool area, hung out a bit more and eventually used my BB bath option from the voucher. Nice young girl, number 30, from Hunan, gave me a good going over, which had me horny again and contemplating another session. I went back in for a second show. Cut babydoll lingerie this time. And was tempted. But my plan was to check out at least one other sauna on this trip.

Time: approx 2am. I'd slept on my previous flight and was feeling wide awake, thanks to jet lag. A short walk took me to Sanado. I'm sure this has been reported before, but not having properly RTFF, I missed it. The place is obviously owned by the same people as East Spa. Same extras, similar costumes, same food, similar girls. The basic difference is that the place is a little older, without some of the flasher facilities (like the cold plunge in the sauna) and the girls are all at lower end of the East spa girls in the look department. Still very sexy. Most of them. But no really hot lookers. And there was no show. At least not at the time of night I visited. The welcome shower / BJ was done much better here, however, although I think that was largely a matter of luck. And having envied those guys who went for the Queen bath at East spa, I tried one here. Girl 150 did it very well and spoke (Chinese) throughout in a cute baby voice that was quite a turn on. Later in the lounge, I was sitting next to a semi-obnoxious Macau guy who was quite drunk and insulting the staff. Kept wanting to "high 5" me. After a while, all the girls "presented themselves" to us in a row and selections were made. Like in East spa, the girls come and lie down with you after the selection, while they discuss the "menu". I didn't look too closely. Menu A was a fairly standard sequence of breast massage, tongue bath, ass rim (with condom) , jelly lick, fire and ice (actually ice and fire. Well, lightly warm water mixed with mouth rinse) , BBBJ and sex. My girl. 208. Indicated that she preferred menu A so I didn't really look too closely at the others.

After the routine. In a fully mirrored room, which is a definite advantage for this sort of thing where you really want the visuals to appreciate what is happening. She surprised me by willing accepting my DATY and even suggesting a 69. All in all, quite a goer. The damage: $1400 or so for the FS, $400 for the Queen bath, and $150 for a leg massage. Oh, and they charged me an extra $100 to sleep in a curtained-off area away from the main lounge. This seemed a little shoddy of them, after the amount of money I'd already spent, but I was past caring.

Summary: going to a Macau sauna is definitely better than staying in a hotel in HK for a stopover. I really like the greet with shower / BJ idea as well as the musical-chairs style show. The choice of girls and service was ok. If I had the choice, I'd prefer to go to Pattaya, say, but that's not really to compare like-with-like. A better comparison is with the saunas of Shanghai. Where I have found the service to be better (but I may have been lucky there) but without the variety and sense of theatre that you get in Macau. Horses for courses.

Was there GP week. Not so good room rates for sure.

Tried a local massagi place across from Sun Yat Sun Park. Got a nice Viet gorl for 150MOP hr.

She was very nice a did a great job. Towards the end though she said almost oo late for HJ but I said please do it anyway. No problem she said as I played with her nice clean pussy while she stroked me. Left her 180mop tip ans was on my way.

Got FS from an older Chinese lady at the one near MGM for 540 MOP but would rather do the Viet girl when I return next year.

PC out

[QUOTE=The Voice; 1217401]Hi.

This was my fifth visit to Macau. While I've tried the various sanuas, darlings etc, until now I hadn't visited Rio. From what I read, Rio was supposed to be the duck's nuts of Macau's saunas so I could hardly wait.

I bought a Rio voucher at the ferry terminal for $2k which was inclusive of the ferry. Went to Rio's on Thursday night as the girls were about to do the show. I was told I could pick any girl with a "heart" but one with a star will cost and extra $500. This is like most of the sauna's, including 18 but the difference was that the overwhelming majority were in the "star" category and only 8 girls in the "hearts". So despite all I heard there was not much of a choice and all 8 were average at best. I chose number 215 as she looked the prettiest of the 8. Her service was lousy. Did the usual routine but without too much emthusiasm and would not allow DATY. The session was over in 40 minutes. I get much better service at a better price from prettier Korean girls here in Australia. And that is most unusual with my Macau punts.

In short, I found Rio a disappointment and nowhere near the standard of 18. Yet this place appears to be rated highly by punters. Have I missed something?[/QUOTE]Voice,

You didn't miss a thing bro. Rio. 18, East, I tried them all and IMO they are all a rip off. Better off doing How Ming or Sanado with their 800MOP Viet girl choice. Of course, if you have to have the prettiest statue there then getting shitty service is almost the norm.

I have done much better with massage girls, etc and got great LT arrangements and lots of overnights for 500-1000MOP.

PC out

I spent three nights and two days in Macau 10 days or so ago as my first outside of US / Canada mongering experience. Here are the results: One great (Rio) , one very good (Sanado) , one good (Darling1) , one ok (Darling1) , one bad (18).

Details: I arrived after a 16 hour flight in which I slept nearly nil and the plan to take a nap and head out somewhere (D2) in the early morning did not materialize. The next morning though, determined to make up for lost time, I hit Darling1 about 9 am. Not much to choose from. But ended up choosing a Viet girl from HCMC. She was attractive and rail thin (as I like 'them) ; but complained about my size and being sleepy throughout. My own jet lag (should have popped a blue pill) also was a factor in my inability to do the deed and could only muster a pop with a rigorous HJ. She was nice enough, however and spent a good amount of time on a BBBJ as well. (Ok)

I was walking by Sanado about 4:30 in the afternoon later that day and was told of the 'until 7 pm special' which also included a massage and something else I can't remember (and don't think I got). They were pushing me right from the beginning to get out there though. (Why even sell the early bird package then?) The lineup again was not all that impressive in my eyes. But I ended up choosing a cute Chinese girl from Hunan. Nice, small natural breasts (my preference). She definitely delivered the GFE.

I was also impressed with the service gals here. Had a neck and shoulder massage from a real cute Chinese girl (I'm pretty sure I would have chosen here if she was in the lineup). Another girl (not as cute, but funny and friendly) who claimed to be a banker in real life, joined in on the massage and enjoyed chatting with her as the cuter one knew very little English. I'm still kicking myself for not making a move on the pretty Indonesian girl who helped me get dressed at my locker.

I'm not sure I'the do the early bird special again as the management seems intent on getting you in and out quickly and the painfully uninspiring massage from a very unhappy camper seemed to last an eternity. But, I liked enough to want to go back if the opportunity were to arise again. (Very good)

Later that night, I went to Rio. Wow. Luxury. I chose, or truth be told, I was chosen by #830. The lineup went all the way around the room, but this Chinese beauty (from Guilin, I believe) smiled and stared at me for every moment. I'the try to scan the rest of the room, but every time my eyes returned to 830, there she was looking right at me, smiling broadly. There was no choice in the matter. In the room, up close, she was just plain drop dead gorgeous. The shallow bath, her rimming me. The eye contact throughout. Man, oh man.

The language barrier though, a problem everywhere, was a real bummer here especially. Or maybe it saved me from spending every last penny I had. We did still manage to communicate the essentials. She suggested a 2nd hour. I told her 'yes', but I would have to be able to kiss her (She had said in the 1st hour that my beard would scratch up her face). She agreed, and we went through a range of positions but after 3 pops that day, I couldn't finish and had to quit when I was too exhausted to keep at it. She was playful as we cuddled (drawing a watch around my wrist) , wrapping herself around me and fascinated apparently as she played with my honking yankee nose. (Great)

The next day. 18. I hated this place and my experience here with a passion. Why, oh why didn't I just go back to Rio? If I had gone here first I'the have never gone to another sauna again. The pool area is closed and sealed off so you had to walk through this narrow hallway to the shower area. As soon as I got there, I was accosted, pulled in every direction. For services or just to the tip sheet (I guess being yanked by your arm is a service worthy of a tip?) Finally make it into the lounge. All the service people, gave me nasty looks when I'the (politely) turn down their service offer. A Chinese girl named Snow grabs my hand and wants to go to a room (I guess she wasn't chosen in the last show). I tell her several times I want to wait for the show. She won't let go of my hand with this begging look in her eyes. Damn it. I give in. She's not unattractive; but not my type. Her ditzy personality is annoying.

I get back to the lounge after a sanitized round with this tissue obsessed girl and am angry at the management here and at myself for not being more forceful in my refusals with Snow and the shower girls. I've already spent the cash I brought to spend and haven't seen a lineup yet (I was very curious to see what they had on the African front and take in the whole spectacle. I sat at the computer there thinking I could always just see a lineup and use my credit card if someone struck my fancy. No, I decided that I wanted out of this place and to not give them another penny of my money. (Bad)

Determined though not to let this be the concluding experience of my visit, I gather myself to hit Darling1 again later that night. The fishbowl is full. I get seated in the back by a mamasan who is anxious for me to choose. Only one girl really stands out from my vantage point. She had walked across the floor just as I'the sat down and taken her position in the smaller model fishbowl. #800. Mamasan says she is Vietnamese, but I still don't think so. Her eyes were more round, her skin color more dark. Her accent was different as well.

Anyway, I choose her though she seems quite reserved, sitting there. The mamasan assures me she will give good service and says she speaks some English. As it turns out, very little. She warms up some, but not a lot. But is she beautiful. Tall, runway type in my eyes at least. She was very shy (and young) , but agreeable enough. Good.

I stayed at the Casa Real. Room and facilities were good, but I wouldn't stay here again. Some things about the staff annoyed me and though it's not far from the center of everything, you have to cross a hectic highway with cars coming in all kind of directions to go anywhere but Darling1. Also as a first time Asia traveler, very little English in that immediate area at all. I would stay at the Holiday Inn next time. More central and there were restaurants across the street with English menus.

[QUOTE=Pcpc1688; 1219045]Voice,

You didn't miss a thing bro. Rio. 18, East, I tried them all and IMO they are all a rip off. Better off doing How Ming or Sanado with their 800MOP Viet girl choice. Of course, if you have to have the prettiest statue there then getting shitty service is almost the norm.

I have done much better with massage girls, etc and got great LT arrangements and lots of overnights for 500-1000MOP.

PC out[/QUOTE]I have 11 Macao Entry stamps now. And I have not been to RIO since my 3 visit.

Rio and 18 suck at service. Better to go to a cheaper sauna. For the price of RIO you can take 2 girls there and usually with better service.

Anyone have recent info. On the quality of the ladies? I want to explore the show and then some. Money is less important than great lookers. I have heard Golden is good too. Which place should be the target. Visit will be Monday-Wednesday, early evening.

Thanks.

sauna 18 is undergoing major renovation, which is disrupting normal activities and now is not a good time to go there. they told me the renovation in the pool area will last for another 2-3 months.

i bought a package in hkg for usd 253 and only found out about the renovation after i was already in macau, so too late to do anything about it. there is no more seated wash area so i was taken into a small room by some girl who gave me a rather unpleasant body scrub while commenting negatively on the fact that i did not appear sexually excited by her scraping my torso and arms with a used towel.

the rest was pretty much same as usual, except that they are pulling the girls into the main lounge area for the selection and there is not enough space to move there, which limits the choice to the girls standing in your immediate vicinity. got a vietnamese (she was one of the dancers in the show) who did a nice job, no complaints with that, got a bbbj in the shower along with a body massage and rimming, then again in the bed and she was actually very tight.

i have never quite figured out the color system at 18, red is supposed to be chinese but this girl had a red badge, said (and looked like) she is vietnamese and came at a premium.

slept a couple hours in one of the little compartments in the back before heading off. 18 is the only sauna i have ever tried in macau, i would try another one next time if i can also buy a package in hkg and stay there until morning, so that i don't have to take a hotel room. not sure which sauna (s) would best fit the bill, i prefer a big place to a small place. i will rtff but if someone has a quick recommendation please post or pm me. thanks.

dear mahal,

thanks for your report. i had set aside a 4 days for exploring macau and would have tried the various saunas including d1, d2, rio. 18, and east spa. thanks to your report i can now strike off 18 from the list. alternatively i'd go to the place i liked the best or explore further by going to sanado, or golden. i have spend the last couple of months researching on the macau saunas, and the general impression i get is that they are all overpriced. but i am ok to spend (ben saving up for this) if the quality of the girls and the service they provide are good. any advice from fellow mongers would be gratefully accepted and appreciated.

[quote=mahal; 1221672]sauna 18 is undergoing major renovation, which is disrupting normal activities and now is not a good time to go there. they told me the renovation in the pool area will last for another 2-3 months.

i bought a package in hkg for usd 253 and only found out about the renovation after i was already in macau, so too late to do anything about it. there is no more seated wash area so i was taken into a small room by some girl who gave me a rather unpleasant body scrub while commenting negatively on the fact that i did not appear sexually excited by her scraping my torso and arms with a used towel.

the rest was pretty much same as usual, except that they are pulling the girls into the main lounge area for the selection and there is not enough space to move there, which limits the choice to the girls standing in your immediate vicinity. got a vietnamese (she was one of the dancers in the show) who did a nice job, no complaints with that, got a bbbj in the shower along with a body massage and rimming, then again in the bed and she was actually very tight.

i have never quite figured out the color system at 18, red is supposed to be chinese but this girl had a red badge, said (and looked like) she is vietnamese and came at a premium.

slept a couple hours in one of the little compartments in the back before heading off. 18 is the only sauna i have ever tried in macau, i would try another one next time if i can also buy a package in hkg and stay there until morning, so that i don't have to take a hotel room. not sure which sauna (s) would best fit the bill, i prefer a big place to a small place. i will rtff but if someone has a quick recommendation please post or pm me. thanks.[/quote]

[QUOTE=Jacker777; 1221957]Dear Mahal,

Thanks for your report. I had set aside a 4 days for exploring Macau and would have tried the various Saunas including D1, D2, RIO. 18, and East Spa. Thanks to your report I can now strike off 18 from the list. Alternatively I'd go to the place I liked the best or explore further by going to Sanado, or Golden. I have spend the last couple of months researching on the Macau Saunas, and the general impression I get is that they are all overpriced. But I am OK to spend (ben saving up for this) if the quality of the girls and the service they provide are good. Any advice from fellow mongers would be gratefully accepted and appreciated.[/QUOTE]Best price value ratio in my opinion has golden and D2. Last time in may they were around 1100 to 1200. D2 isn't a sauna as its only a fish bowl and the room but 1, 5 hours with the girl. First 30 minutes a bubble bath and then one hour on the bed. But the girls were always very service oriented. There are 2 very cheap places similar to that. One is hot spot and the other is something like massage electric near to to the royal hotel. There 80 minutes cost only 660. I never managed to got into hot spot since it opens late and its a little fare away from the casino area. But I would try again if I was there for 4 days.

Golden is a full sauna, with in my opinion best best sauna. It also has the all the pools, showers, sauna room etc. So its a good option for a long relaxing stay with a lot girls to choose from. Only the rooms are a little small.

Anyway, I would always recommend to try several of the cheaper saunas instead of the expensive ones. That way you increase the chance of finding a realy good girl that you could repeat with.

Would be interesting to get more reports off the beaten tracks. There are a lot of saunas in the residential area away from the casions mainly for locals. They are a lot cheaper and we have enough reports from 18, Rio etc.

I will fly to HK in December after a Thailand trip, depending on my mood after Thailand I will stay in HK or take the ferry over to Macau. If I happen to do something new I will report, but I know myself good enough. I will propably call one of the sauna girls form my previous vistis and arrange a privat meeting.

Have fun

[QUOTE=TheQE; 1220445]I spent three nights and two days in Macau 10 days or so ago as my first outside of US / Canada mongering experience. Here are the results: One great (Rio) , one very good (Sanado) , one good (Darling1) , one ok (Darling1) , one bad (18).

I was walking by Sanado about 4:30 in the afternoon later that day and was told of the 'until 7 pm special' which also included a massage and something else I can't remember (and don't think I got). They were pushing me right from the beginning to get out there though. (Why even sell the early bird package then?) The lineup again was not all that impressive in my eyes. But I ended up choosing a cute Chinese girl from Hunan. Nice, small natural breasts (my preference). She definitely delivered the GFE.

I was also impressed with the service gals here. Had a neck and shoulder massage from a real cute Chinese girl (I'm pretty sure I would have chosen here if she was in the lineup). Another girl (not as cute, but funny and friendly) who claimed to be a banker in real life, joined in on the massage and enjoyed chatting with her as the cuter one knew very little English. I'm still kicking myself for not making a move on the pretty Indonesian girl who helped me get dressed at my locker.[/QUOTE]I been to Sanado recently as well, there were several filipinas and indonesian girls working there, I agree that they are pretty, which was the one are you referring to, is she the tall Indonesian girl with the long legs and brown / black hair and the pretty face?

[QUOTE=Osuul; 1222362]Best price value ratio in my opinion has golden and D2. Last time in may they were around 1100 to 1200. D2 isn't a sauna as its only a fish bowl and the room but 1, 5 hours with the girl. First 30 minutes a bubble bath and then one hour on the bed. But the girls were always very service oriented. There are 2 very cheap places similar to that. One is hot spot and the other is something like massage electric near to to the royal hotel. There 80 minutes cost only 660. I never managed to got into hot spot since it opens late and its a little fare away from the casino area. But I would try again if I was there for 4 days.

Golden is a full sauna, with in my opinion best best sauna. It also has the all the pools, showers, sauna room etc. So its a good option for a long relaxing stay with a lot girls to choose from. Only the rooms are a little small.

Anyway, I would always recommend to try several of the cheaper saunas instead of the expensive ones. That way you increase the chance of finding a realy good girl that you could repeat with.

Would be interesting to get more reports off the beaten tracks. There are a lot of saunas in the residential area away from the casions mainly for locals. They are a lot cheaper and we have enough reports from 18, Rio etc.

I will fly to HK in December after a Thailand trip, depending on my mood after Thailand I will stay in HK or take the ferry over to Macau. If I happen to do something new I will report, but I know myself good enough. I will propably call one of the sauna girls form my previous vistis and arrange a privat meeting.

Have fun[/QUOTE]Thanks Osuul,

With 4 days to go to Macau, last minute preparations underway, condom, Blue pill, antibiotic, lubricant and what not!

I wonder if my English only limitation would be an issue in Macau. Can I expect Macau to be visitor friendly? Can someone suggest some crucial icebreaking words in Mandarin / Cantonese / Vietnamese / Indonesian / Philipino. I am also exploring a translation app for my iphone.

[QUOTE=Jacker777; 1223113]Thanks Osuul,

With 4 days to go to Macau, last minute preparations underway, condom, Blue pill, antibiotic, lubricant and what not!

I wonder if my English only limitation would be an issue in Macau. Can I expect Macau to be visitor friendly? Can someone suggest some crucial icebreaking words in Mandarin / Cantonese / Vietnamese / Indonesian / Philipino. I am also exploring a translation app for my iphone.[/QUOTE]You can get everything in Macao, only european size condoms are hart to come by. I always bring my own as the ones from the saunas are cheap and too small.

Viagra, Cialis, lubricant etc. You can buy at any pharmacy in Macao with no questions asked. No generica, only the real ones.

I never had problems with girls in my hotel, even though there is something like a "no visitors after 11 pm" rule, but the security guy just gave me a big smile when I brought my girl back to my room.

So I can confirm 100% for Rio, Lisboa (the old Lisboa) and golden dragon hotel.

Ice breakers. Mhhhh.

Ni hao for the Chinese girls. That who mean "how are you"

Something like tchinquiau in vietnamese meaning Hello, or something similar.

I forgot the thai word for that.

For the indos and phil girls you usually speak english with them anyway.

I have visited a bunch of sauna's in Macau. I find they have man pretty Chinese ladies. My approach, since I don't speak a word of Chinese, is to pick the prettiest one with a smile. I figure since w can't commnice and the service is pretty standard as far as the routine, why not have a ten lick your ass. I look for the GFE from a bar girl.

[QUOTE=HK Guy 2003;1222610]I been to Sanado recently as well, there were several filipinas and indonesian girls working there, I agree that they are pretty, which was the one are you referring to, is she the tall Indonesian girl with the long legs and brown / black hair and the pretty face?[/QUOTE]But these filipina and indonesians are they available for the "room service" or just for the playing side, ie lockers, japanese shower.

[QUOTE=Osuul;1223197]I forgot the thai word for that.[/QUOTE]Sawadee kap.

But I doubt there are many this in Macau.

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1223330]But these filipina and indonesians are they available for the "room service" or just for the playing side, ie lockers, japanese shower.[/QUOTE]I heard they are not available. These girls that although equally as pretty as the paid for sex girl, will not go with customers for sex, they chose to work not as sex workers on their own accords. So be respectful to them as you would with any other non-sex service workers (I. E, waitresses, locker attendants, etc)

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1223332]Sawadee kap.

But I doubt there are many this in Macau.[/QUOTE]Not many, Darling 1 always has some the other saunas sometimes one or two.

Definatly more in Hong kong.

Besides Chinese, vietnamese come second in Macao.

I'm in Macau right now; I flew in yesterday on Tiger Airways from Clark in the Philippines. I wanted to report on Hot Spot Sauna. I went here earlier today and overall, it was a good experience.

This sauna is located far from the touristy part of Macau. It's actually in kind of a run-down part of town. I took a taxi from the MGM casino to Hot Spot for 49 MOP. The address is Barrio Iao Hon, Rua Dois, and it's on the second floor of the building. I'll include a picture of the outside with this report.

I got there a little before 5 pm, I guess that's early for them because there weren't many girls available. The lady at the front desk charged me 440 MOP, which seems reasonable considering some of the prices being posted on this thread. I chose a 22 year old Vietnamese chick from Ho Ch Minh City named Helen or Ellen. She had red-dyed hair and bad teeth, but her body was smoking hot, with fake tits, but the doctor did a good job on them and they looked good. Maybe they were C cups? I'm bad with guessing sizes. But they looked great on her slim frame, and she had smooth, white skin. Decent ass, too.

Unlike some of the other places mentioned on here, there is no spa, or massage or any other services like this at Hot Spot. This is a pure fuck-joint, plain and simple. Just what I like! Ellen washed me and gave a quick BBBJ in the tub, then it was off to the bed where she licked my body, gave a long BBBJ, and then CFS. There was no way I was going to cum wearing that tight condom she put on me, so I had her take it off, give me another BBBJ, and then finish me off with an oiled HJ while I sucked on her man-made tits. Afterwards, she gave me a leg massage, which felt nice.

During sex, she was a bit mechanical at times, but as I said, overall, it was good. I'd recommend this place.

I'm probably not going to go to any of the big saunas while I'm here, but are there any other low cost ones I should try out?

[url]http://industry.macautourism.gov.mo/en/license/search.php?page_id=89&com_type=10&com_class=11[/url]

I found this cool link for a listing of 56 licensed saunas and massage facilities in Macau, I will check out some not reported here and TOFTT later this week and report.

Is this the place? SAUNA & MASSAGE HOT SPOT Fourth Street Neighborhood Iao Hon No. 73 and Sixth Street Neighborhood Iao Hon, No. 76, 1st floor, shop "A", Macau

[QUOTE=Ezinho; 1225549]I'm in Macau right now; I flew in yesterday on Tiger Airways from Clark in the Philippines. I wanted to report on Hot Spot Sauna. I went here earlier today and overall, it was a good experience.

This sauna is located far from the touristy part of Macau. It's actually in kind of a run-down part of town. I took a taxi from the MGM casino to Hot Spot for 49 MOP. The address is Barrio Iao Hon, Rua Dois, and it's on the second floor of the building. I'll include a picture of the outside with this report.

I got there a little before 5 pm, I guess that's early for them because there weren't many girls available. The lady at the front desk charged me 440 MOP, which seems reasonable considering some of the prices being posted on this thread. I chose a 22 year old Vietnamese chick from Ho Ch Minh City named Helen or Ellen. She had red-dyed hair and bad teeth, but her body was smoking hot, with fake tits, but the doctor did a good job on them and they looked good. Maybe they were C cups? I'm bad with guessing sizes. But they looked great on her slim frame, and she had smooth, white skin. Decent ass, too.

Unlike some of the other places mentioned on here, there is no spa, or massage or any other services like this at Hot Spot. This is a pure fuck-joint, plain and simple. Just what I like! Ellen washed me and gave a quick BBBJ in the tub, then it was off to the bed where she licked my body, gave a long BBBJ, and then CFS. There was no way I was going to cum wearing that tight condom she put on me, so I had her take it off, give me another BBBJ, and then finish me off with an oiled HJ while I sucked on her man-made tits. Afterwards, she gave me a leg massage, which felt nice.

During sex, she was a bit mechanical at times, but as I said, overall, it was good. I'd recommend this place.

I'm probably not going to go to any of the big saunas while I'm here, but are there any other low cost ones I should try out?[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.eaststartgroup.com/east_spa_club/albums.asp[/url]

Has anybody seen alla? She looks too good.

Which girls have a tiny amount of hair between the legs? I met this one dongbei girl a model. I can count on one hand how many fine wisps of hair she had!

Also has anybody seen iris? Does her forehead have a fairly long scar between the eyes? I wonder if its her. She retired for a long time.

Day 4 (Sunday)

First of all: Do not try to get to Macau on Sunday early afternoon! Second: Do not wait for a shuttle bus to the Waldo Hotel even if someone is telling you the bus is coming soon! Arrived at the ferry terminal in Sheung Wan around 12:00. Everything was cramped, I couldn't get on one of the boats as a stand by passenger, immigration took hours, the shuttle bus to the Waldo hotel didn't show up, had to take the bus to the Sands finally and walked the last meters. Checked in at the Waldo around 6:30 pm. Unless it is kind of erotic fantasy to book a room in a brothel there is no reason for staying at the Waldo. By far the poorest breakfast buffet I have experienced in years. At least staff was helpful. The night before I could get at least three to four hours of sleep (fucking a Thai cutie somehow helped curing my insomnia a little, may all the "professional" Hong Kong mongers such as Johnny Rocket forgive me for overpaying LT on a Saturday night deprived of sleep and sex!) , I felt a little better, but still tired. I had booked a sauna package (including ferry) for the Sanado Spa but since I was already here at the Waldo I could as well take the elevator to the sixth floor to experience the world of East Spa. And what a revelation this was.

I was a bit disappointed since no one from the management really explained to me how this establishment worked and no "shower assistant" showed up to clean me and my cock (on a Sunday night the spa was quite crowded with customers). But I asked for it and from then on the whole experience was flawless. Cleaned up properly and given a robe and shorts I was led into the lounge and I didn't even have to show such talents as self-confidence, professionalism, setting goals as some users have advised me due to my poor performance described in the HK thread. All I really had to do was to smile my way through the night (BTW the Chinese customers didn't seem to smile much, they always acted as if the girls were a nuisance to them, but maybe I simply didn't get the whole cultural thing of not losing face and so forth, I was the only Westerner there but did not feel unwelcome). For the next hour or so I experienced the outstanding service in the lounge, including a perfect foot massage (which finally brought all my power back to me) , hand massage, freshly squeezed juices and so forth. What really impressed me was the quality of the service girls. All of them were Indonesian or Vietnamese, most of them real eye candy (I'd say 6-8) , all of them flirtatious, attentive, English speaking, and all that without being too pushy. One super likeable Indonesian babe (wearing business kind of blouse and skirt, big turn on!) wanted to give me a thigh massage which I rejected only to make her sit next to me and hold my hand for about 10 minutes, smiling her way into my mind.

Hard to believe that the "show" could add something to that already perfect experience but I was proven wrong. I would say the quality of the girls is 7-9. 5, no old ones, no fat ones, no bored ones. Some of them looked like Chinese high school princesses. I have spotted no non-Chinese ones but I am not an expert on this. The few ones I thought of being "not so pretty" (or at least not my cup of tea) were picked frequently by the Chinese customers so they might be supper hotties as well. The show meant all the girls rotating form guest to guest performing a little tickling with a feather, licking my nipples, making me fondle her breasts, finally cleaning my cock and performing a mini fire and ice BJ (amazing technique I have to admit) , touching and light kissing not only allowed but encouraged. The Russian (?) Choreographer watching her girls as if they were the Bolshoi Ballet gave the whole thing a somehow bizarre (but in a likeable way) note.

After the show the 25 or so girls were presented again in smaller groups. Picking one might be a bit difficult because of the sensory overload you have just experienced and because of the Chinese customers normally picking very quickly. I already made up my mind not only for my favourite but also for two stand by choices. But I was lucky and quick and so my first choice came to my chair fondling a little. The face was 7. 5 but the body was incredible, super slim but with enormous (natural) boobs (body maybe 9. 5). And although she didn't speak English (apart from "yes","no" and "big" pointing towards my private parts) , she was kind of interacting with me, lots of smiling, laughing and pantomiming. Then I was supposed to pick from the menu what kind of performance I wanted. You could only pick between the packages A, B and C which suited me well since I didn't have time to check all the various options. I think I voted for A but I am not sure. She gripped my hand and lead me to the room. As mentioned East Spa uses real hotel rooms not little shabby, poorly lit fuck-boxes. Again I was cleaned carefully under the shower including a little BBBJ, we moved to the bed, she had different fluids, tissues, ice cubes etc prepared. I was given body licking, BJ again, a little AR (with the ice cube, ouch!) and finally that inevitable fire and ice BJ (instead of what I have read on some forums they do not use Ice cubes and warm tea for this but a Listerine / water mix and some other fluid). I am not sure whether this Listerine thing is a good idea for the safety of the condom but it definitely works in terms of getting a super hard one. We performed then CFS in various positions. A few minutes were left, we cuddled and she finally guided me to another lounge where most of the other customers were already waiting, drinking, smoking (lots!). For the next two hours or so there was time to relax, eating excellent udon noodles, again juices, a few beers. In between one of the customers asked for a little line-up (consisting of maybe 6-8 girls, again all of them pretty and sexy) but I wanted to save my energy for a second show and then pick another girl.

The show then was more or less the same as before. Again I saw a few hotties I would (in terms of looks) marry right away. This time I picked a girl that must have been closest to the Chinese taste (looking super young, pale skin) , at least two other guests wanted her as well, and I was informed that she belonged in the super model category (making her slightly more expensive) but that did not discourage me from fucking her. Again menu, going to the room, carefully cleaning, all kinds of licking, blowing, sucking, fucking but this time less enthusiastic than with my first girl. It was obvious that she did not enjoy my western cock inside her.

Then again I was guided into another lounge, ordering some noodle dish. Suddenly my Indonesian darling appeared again acting as if she was jealous that I fucked around with other women. I was beginning to adore that woman (named Ella) because she was so playful and charming. Since my noodle dish was arriving she decided to feed me with chopsticks. Strangely enough, this somehow built up an erotic and even romantic situation and I couldn't help wanting to have this girl close to me so I agreed for a shoulder massage once she finished feeding me. After the shoulder massage again she kept holding my hand and looked me in the eyes. She said that I was a "norrty" boy but that sometimes even a "norrty" boy needed a good girl to take care of him. To cut a long story short I finally agreed on her thigh massage, was from that on greeted enthusiastically by every member of the staff. When leaving the joint it was almost 4:00 am and I had my credit card charged with something in between 4k to 5k HKD. And I didn't regret one single penny.

Day 5 (Monday)

After some sightseeing in Macau (charming) I had to decide whether to return early to Hong Kong or to have another Sauna experience (this time at Sanado). Of course I chose the latter. Arrived there around 3:00 pm. Actually I wasn't offered one of these early bird packages. I think the interior design is slightly better than the one at East Spa. Again I went through the same procedure including being helped with putting my belongings into the locker, having a shower assistant (could not choose) getting a robe and shorts and finally being guided to one of the lounges. It seemed to be a quiet day and soon the Vietnamese / Indo honeys were all over me to sell their services (manicure, pedicure, foot massage etc.) Again these were playful charming characters. I was informed that no show was available so soon but they could present me a big line up anytime I wanted. After some manicure and pedicure and hand massage I finally was in the mood for having sex with a Chinese cutie so I approached one of the managers. Soon me and the remaining few customers have about 10 girls presented, again all of them were pretty some of them even stunners. I picked one of the girls in sailor moon style, pony tailed hair with blondish colour, big false eyelashes, schoolgirls uniform. She was named Ning (or something like that) and turned out to be a fantastic choice. While the rooms at Sanado are very little fuck-boxes (but spotless and with lots of mirrors) her personality made up for this. Again she spoke very little English but definitely knew how to flirt. She almost couldn't stop pointing at my eyes saying "beautiful". This time I let the girl decide for option "A". After all the requested performances she kept cuddling with me and started DFK. She responded very well to my kissing and licking of her nipples and soon I found out her pussy was getting very wet. So we went for CFS and she always took care of me not coming too early with the right change of pace and position. I was surprised because of the one pop only policy I would expect the girls to make the guys come as quickly as possible.

As in East Spa you are requested to evaluate the performance (very good, good and so on) on paper. Since I already gave the two ladies at East Spa a very good review I felt somehow guilty that even the perfect performer Ning could not better get a better result than "very good" but to sum it up she was fantastic, of course professional through and through but with a nice little twist of GFE. I bumped into her two times later that day and every time she was waving kisses at me and pantomiming a revolver pointing at my private parts, what a cheerful little darling! It was around 6:00 pm when I wanted to leave but then the manager almost begged me to stay for the first show of the day. Even it was clear that I couldn't pick another cutie how could I disappoint him and so I had to stay a little longer. The show was close to the one at East Spa, instead of the fire and ice BJ the girls kissed their guests ears as if they were some teenagers in love. Again it was very inspiring and this time only I noticed that how well you could watch the girl's pussies and racks. When leaving they charged my credit card with around 1000 HKD in addition to 600 (or so) I already paid for the package (including ferry) in advance.

While East Spa and Sanado are under the same management it might be useless to compare both joints. While East Spa definitely had better fucking rooms the overall interior impression was slightly better at Sanado. If I remember correctly East Spa was a bit more expensive. At Sanado I found the fuck of the year but the Indo and Viet service girls were a bit more alluring at East Spa. Then it's possible that they exchange their staff between the two joints so I wouldn't bet on East Spa always having the better looking service girls while Sanado have the better looking working girls. You can't go wrong with either Sanado or East Spa.

Thanks Nullnull,

I read your HK experience and have been waiting for this one. Sanado is on my shortlist. Glad you had fun at East sauna but 4K is well out of my price range!

Great report Null. I had to laugh after reading about the charge for your first night at East Spa; laugh with you, not at you. Hey, Macau is man's paradise, but paradise is not cheap. I never hold back. Macau is not the place to get frugal. Last year I headed to AC after 4 great nights in Macau so everything averages out in the long run. But very few girls in AC measure up to the standards set in Macau.

I remember one night I had at Rio Sauna last year where I took a beautiful Chinese model and she gave me a great session. You know; body massage, rim, fire and ice, and shag in multiple positions. Afterwards, I went down to the lounge area and relaxed. The time went by quickly and before I knew it; it was ShowTime again. I went up stars to see more of the talent, not sure if I would go a second round. There were at least 20 girls up there I would have loved to shag, but one girl was giving me a big smile with her eyes. She was really quite beautiful, but she was the girl I had just been with. It wasn't that she was more beautiful or sexy than at least ten other girls in the room, but it was the way she smiled at me that hooked me. What the hell, I said to myself, and without much hesitation, I picked her again!

The sexy Indonesia manager led me back to the same room I had been in an hour earlier. My girl arrived and she dispensed with the program, by throwing her arms around me and we just started making out. What followed turned out to be a very passionate shag in multiple positions that must have lasted 30 – 40 minutes. Afterwards, we just cuddled. I felt great. If she had only been able to speak English or I speak Mandarin; I would have asked her to marry me, LOL or come away with me for a week to PI. Any way my bill for all this and a thigh massage came to; you know what. I didn't care. That's why there are credit cards.

I have had good times at East Spa as well. There are a few of my trip reports back a year or two in the thread. I have one month to go before I get on that Continental jet and fly to HKG. I am only going to spend two nights in Wanchai before taking the ferry to Macau. Obviously I am really looking forward to it. If I lived in Hong Kong, I would make it down to Macau once a month and maybe take Mandarin lessons.

There is a big difference between being frugal and lavish.

I think anywhere between $1000-$2000 on a night out is fair ask. There is no way I could ever justify twice that, particularly when I think a good night out is definitely achievable within the range I specified. .

I suppose it all comes down to how much you can afford and what stage you are in life.

@Switched: You are right. 4k is an almost obscene amount of money to spend for a few hours of fun. I have done this very seldom before. But I didn't feel bad at all in doing so. Actually it did hurt more to pay 2k plus fees and taxes for a room in a mediocre Hong Kong Metropark Hotel having in mind that I could have been in the Peninsula or Four Seasons Bangkok for less. Having a good night is possible in most places for much less than 2k but I doubt that you can achieve your goal once you have entered a Macau sauna. O. K, you can limit yourself to one pop and go to bed early but then this is not my definition of a good night.

@Natty Bumpo: I almost start laughing when I saw my bill at Wast Spa. I fellt like being in one of these Mastercard TV spots: "Spending one night in a Macau sauna. Priceless!"

If you spend every other night in a sauna you better be careful but if you go now and then it is inevitable to overspend a bit. This is different from overpaying. Sauna have fixed prices clearly listed (less clear is sometime the description but all aim to sex, at the end when you get to the main deal).

One can limit himself but it is like getting a sport car and drive it at 80kph.

Sauna is also spending a good amount of hours in it. Inevitable to take some of the side services (a few are kinky too).

Going at Rio I never spent less than 1400 often I have been on 2200. So a 4k for once means also having taken advantage of quite some services: up to the horniness of a guy and it's wallet.

Nothing to blame for.

Different is paying 2k for a HJ by a FL. For instance.

An occasional visitor will enjoy the opportunity at its best.

Hi all,

I am planning to hit macau by mid January. From previous posts it seems clear that 18 is under renovation. Any idea on its current status or when it will be up and running as before?

My target is 18, Rio and Sonada. Any suggestions on what time to go to sauna's for better lineup? Is weekend better?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

[QUOTE=Applerocks; 1232969]Hi all,

I am planning to hit macau by mid January. From previous posts it seems clear that 18 is under renovation. Any idea on its current status or when it will be up and running as before?

My target is 18, Rio and Sonada. Any suggestions on what time to go to sauna's for better lineup? Is weekend better?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Sure on weekends there are more girls but also more men. I was once in 18 on a Saturday, is was so full that I could not find a place to sit down in the rest area and during line up the girls.

Were chossen so fast I had to make a hasty pick before I could have a good look around.

i'm posting this report fill in some gaps that i didn't find on the board despite exhaustive searching. i found macau to be a man's paradise, but you have to know where to go and what to expect. it's a little long but there's at least one amusing bit, so sorry about all the detail.

after extensive research on the forum and elsewhere i decided to try sauna eighteen first. i should have taken a cab, but i enjoy getting lost. i don't recommend walking around macau trying to find a sauna. macau is small but not that small. i got rather lucky and found both saunas without a cab, directions, or a map. if you call 'lucky' having to walk around for a few hours, that is.

if you're caucasian, like me, and don't speak a word of mandarin, portuguese, cantonese, or any other dialect that might have helped, and insist on doing it the hard way, know that the owners of the saunas don't go out of their way to advertise. the only way for an illiterate foreign devil such as myself to notice sauna 18 is by a discreet podium-like thing that sits out in front of the hotel. the podium has a few suggestive pictures of hot asian women and if you look quite closely the words sauna eighteen are printed quite small. you'd never notice if you didn't stop and inspect the sign. the first time i saw the podium i thought it was just a place for the bellhop to lean against, or a taxi stand. it is that understated.

sauna 18 is also inside the hotel proper. coming from a place where mongering is illegal, i didn't expect it to be inside a reasonably nice hotel. to the side, apart, adjacent, down a dark alley, something like that, sure. but inside? compared to some of the pretty shady places i've had to monger, it sure makes one feel safe and relaxed.

you have to take the hotel elevator to get to it, and there is also a different men's club in the hotel on another floor which looked more like a lap dancing club.

inside, eighteen is fit out like a high end health club. lots of wood and marble. everything is clean and well-appointed. not tacky or ostentatious. i went on a saturday night and arrived at about 7pm. the busiest possible time, by choice. i wanted to see the best of the best. i was greeted in english (however did they guess?) and shown to the locker room. i had purchased one of those package deals at the hk ferry terminal.

it didn't bother me that the attendant stood around while i undressed. he could care less about me or my pasty nekkid body and was just doing his job, but i can see how some people might be put off by having a guy just standing there while you disrobe. was handed a towel and a key, and the attendant took great pains to explain the different numbers and prices for each type of woman. he even wrote it down on a slip of paper for me, which i somehow lost track of when i needed it most.

next to the locker room is a large open pool and shower area. i gather this area is currently under construction. a reasonably attractive vietnamese girl in her late twenties, and a 6-7 on the looks scale but with huge natural dd titties offered to wash me down and made it clear that it was part of my package and there was no extra charge. be careful if you don't have that service as part of your package. she gave me a nice warm washdown and paid thorough attention to my balls and arse. i should mention that there were about 8 other guys around at the time in the pool area. nobody cared or paid me any attention but again i could see how it could put someone off.

now a long series of upsells began at 18. she then offered to give me an exfoliating massage in the massage room. here i made a few mistakes. she made it clear that it was going to cost me extra, that's no big deal. my first mistake was that as she did the massage the first show began and i missed out on a parade of hot women. whether it was deliberate or not i don't know, but the timing was a little fishy. i should have done the massage later. my second mistake is that i didn't get more sexually aggressive with her. i should have pawed her all over and gotten a look at her fabulous titties. i'm certain at least a handjob was included with the massage, and probably more. ymmv perhaps. the exfoliating massage was mildly painful and not entirely pleasant, i should have told her to stuff that and oil me up or suck my cock. anyone have any idea if that kind of play is on offer?

when i got out the show was long over. i was led to the next room where i was toweled off and given boxers and a robe by another cute vietnamese who asked for a 50hkd tip for the 'service. ' i gave her little titties a quick feel-up and tipped her, and we flirted a bit. it was a fair exchange, but the pushiness for tips was irritating.

the next room was quite large and filled with maybe sixty reclining lounge chairs. most were occupied. there was a small area with computers and lots of big screen televisions around. here i was kind of left to figure things out for myself, so i got myself a chair. pretty quickly i was asked if i wanted a shoulder massage by a somewhat cute massage girl which i declined. a couple of minutes later, of all things, a guy asked me if i wanted a pedicure. i found that odd, actually a little gross, no in fact quite repulsive, and declined that too. there were at least two other westerners in the area, but i didn't speak with any of them. drinks were on offer, as well as food, some of both was free. some of the working girls in skimpy outfits were pacing around looking for targets, but i was never so much as looked at by any of them, despite my attempts to get their attention. possibly because i'm western, possibly because i'd previously declined all service offers and that branded me as a low-roller. it left me feeling somewhat sad and quite alone. i've never been in a place like that where the women didn't just flock to a guy. in the lounge it was practically the opposite.

so i sat around and became rather bored until i noticed someone texting on their phone. i didn't realize you could bring your phone into the lounge, so up i went to get my blackberry out of the locker. my walking back to the locker room caused a bit of a stir until the staff realized that i wasn't leaving.

having a phone helped pass the time until the show, which was held out in the pool area. i'd chosen 18 because i wanted to see a huge selection of girls and i'd heard they had the youngest and most beautiful women. the show began with a dull 'pole dance without a pole' from a cute asian. i think the management's idea was that this display would get the men worked up. without exaggeration, i've seen amateur fat american 40 year olds in swinger clubs take the pole with better moves. this girl had an utterly plastic manner and would clearly rather have been at the dentist than swaying her hips unmusically to the crowd, so the effect was more comic than erotic.

at last the fabled lineup happened. at least 60 girls came out. so many that i completely lost track of who was who. looking back on it there were actually too many girls. they moved too quick, and from prior research i felt a lot of pressure to make a quick decision lest all the hot ones got snapped up. i'd say that 9 out of 10 of the girls seemed pretty disinterested, in me at least. their vibe? not 'i'm a hot unattainable haughty, you'll never have me. ' no, more like 'i'd rather be shoveling cow dung. ' many trying not to be seen if felt like. the opposite of erotic. i'd also say that 40 of the 60 were nothing special to look at, but all were young and had nice bodies.

per the forum recommendations i'd read on the board, i looked for a girl that smiled at me and gave me lots of eye contact and some idea that she was interested. three or four of the sixty present did give me smiles and eye contact but one stood out as the most beautiful. there were several managers standing around, so i turned to one and gave the number. it was here that i could have used my cheat sheet, but alas it was the last thing on my mind. the numbers are quite hard to read at least for an old guy like me, so be sure you're close enough.

i wanted to stay for the rest of the show, but i was hustled out of there having made my choice. for all i know another 60 women came out, everyone got a free blowjob, and a massive orgy erupted. i'm pretty disappointed at being treated that way by the staff, it was brusque and in my opinion broke what little of the mood i'd been holding on to. i would have much rather stuck around and ogled the goods on display, and if (big if) i ever return i'll make an attempt to feign that i don't understand what they're saying and stand my ground, or just watch the first show and wait for the second show to choose.

after having made my choice and being forced back into the main lounge room nobody said a word to me so i started back to my lounge chair. after a moment in the chair i had a feeling that sitting there wasn't the right thing to do. good thing too, as i almost missed out. what you're supposed to do is go and stand around this sort of cashier-type desk next to some stairs going down. i was hurredly asked if i wanted the special condom, to which i said yes. i wanted one of those japanese polyurethane super-thin condoms, which i got. unfortunately she also shoved some kind of thicker package in my hand as well (which to my complete horror turned out to be a cheap vibrating plastic cock ring). before i could think to say 'no' to the cock ring or inquire about the price i was led downstairs in the manner of a harried schoolmarm with a bunch of bratty kids along with my fellow mongers (about 10 of us). i found that quite distasteful and rude and at the end i think the damn thing cost me 100 hkd, which is outrageous. a crisp, efficient man then took us, like a high speed tour guide, each to our appointed rooms where i waited alone for my chosen girl to arrive.

the rooms were quite nice but tiny and cramped, had fresh towels and had just been cleaned. i saw a handful of pleasant female cleaning staff working the area and they looked quite busy.

why they bothered to hustle us to the rooms i have no idea. i was the last to be escorted to my room but i still had to wait several minutes until my temporary girlfriend arrived. fortunately, she was beautiful, even more so than in the lineup. a solid 9 in looks, and her body an absolute 10. flawless skin, perfect c cup breasts, heart shaped ass, that long soft pussy hair that only asians seem to posess, and not an ounce of fat on her 22 year old nubile body. from somewhere in mainland china, but i can't remember let alone prounounce the name of the city. she didn't speak more than three or four words of english.

i was expecting a fairly mechanical performance. and i'm okay with that, if the performer is a young beautiful woman, which she was. and it was mechanical. she had her routine and stuck to it. you can read all about the detail in many other posts. it did not deviate. after the shower activites she wasted six or eight of my very expensive minutes overwashing herself alone while i sat naked on the bed getting cold and awaiting her. so long did she take that when she emerged she must have been the cleanest woman within a thousand miles.

before i can stop her this silly girl unrolls my expensive japanese special condom. unrolls the whole damn thing. on her finger and then tries to slide the now useless unrolled condom on to mr. happy with predictable results. so after prodding and pulling for a bit she rips it. it's true. i ask you gentlemen, how can a woman in one of the most expensive and supposedly exclusive cathouses in macau not get instruction in putting a condom on properly?

now after a lot of fuss she eventually produces another one and starts to unroll that one as well. this time i stop her before it is too late and put it on myself the right way. but wait, there's more. now she doesn't think the condom goes down far enough on my cock. this is taking on the order of ten minutes at this point, and the entire affair is not exactly arousing. i can just feel the minutes slipping away. but somehow i manage to stay hard. finally i'm suited up to her standards and ready to go.

so there i am, missionary position, finally fully engaged with this beautiful creature. the final act commences at last. and i'm just finally starting to enjoy myself, with perhaps four minutes of time remaining. and now, out of her presumably giant bag of sexy tricks, what does she decide to do to heighten the erotic experience? wait for it. she starts to pick her nose. not a dainty scratch, no. she goes on a fucking expedition in there. if there was an olympic event for nose-picking, she'd win the bronze at least. now i've seen a lot of unusual things in my outings. but never once has any of my erotic providers stuck her finger up her nose during the act. imagine, if you will, my horror. i was speechless, not that she'd understand a word i said even if i'd said something. and yet, beyond all hope i was able to finish the deed, as even that repulsive behaivor was overcome by her world class titties and tight asian pussy. she showered me, let me towel myself off, led me by the hand to the staircase and politely wished me goodbye with a peck on the cheek, and bounced off with a self-assured manner that bespoke a job well done.

at that point the staff continued to ignore me or made it clear which way the exit was (in some cases helpfully pointing me the way out) and thanked me for coming. i changed, paid the difference between my ticket and the extras i ordered (the expensive condom, useless cock ring, tips, and the exfoliating massage). i could have made a scene and gotten the girl in trouble but i just wanted the hell out of there. i had expected to be royally treated, and to get mechanical service from a top quality girl. instead i felt that i'd been royally fucked and hung out to dry by a mechanic.

fair warning to you all about sauna eighteen. i saw a lot of chinese guys there who looked quite happy and i'm sure the experience would have been better had i spoken mandarin.

that experience nearly put me off of saunas and macau altogether, but fortunately i decided to try sanado on another night.

sanado is about as opposite an experience to eighteen as a person could have. granted, i opted for a higher-end package this time, some 1, 900hkd, which included all kinds of things like massages and pool treatment. on my previous walking tour of macau searching for 18 i'd seen sanado, which is just down the street from the holiday inn, close to rio and almost directly across the street from the metropark hotel.

once inside i was warmly greeted in english and led inside to the showers. there were a half dozen quite attractive asian women waiting around. i recalled that my package gave me the right to choose who i wanted to suck my cock during the shower, so i chose a beautiful specimen who latered me up and gave me about a 20 second bbbj which was quite nice. i was then led into the pool / changing area after i'd dried off. this was the only negative experience i had at sanado. i thought i'd read that if you got into the pool a girl would come in with you and you could fool around with them. i was looking forward to that so i hopped into the pool. and. nothing happened. girls came and went, i tried to make eye contact, no go. i sat in the pool for 15 minutes with no luck. ok fine. i went back to shower off and was pleasantly surprised by getting to choose yet another hot girl for another quick bbbj treatment in the shower, which i enjoyed. i later found out that i was supposed to choose a girl for the pool, because that's what my package gave me the right to do. i didn't find out how to do that exactly, but it was later made clear to me that i could trade my pool experience for a massage, which i happily did.

i moved on to the next room, which was about a tenth the size of eighteen's with similar lounge chairs. there were a couple of other westerners there as well. i took a seat and was asked by a very attractive indonesian woman if i wanted a back rub. my package included this so i enthusiastically said yes, and she did a lovely job, spoke good english and seemed genuinely interested in me. i also got a foot massage from another woman who also seemed to really like me. i was feeling great at this point and well taken care of. here at last were the beautiful girls crawling all over me, being flirty, fun and genuinely warm. a few minutes later i was offered an ear cleaning, which i wanted to try, having heard they were erotic and quite nice. the actual experience was anything but erotic and slightly on the painful side. i also got a pedicure, thankfully this time by a woman. and then the hot indo backrub girl invited me for a private massage. hell yes i was into that. i won't go into detail but let me just say that we clicked, my massage was great and i enjoyed what seemed to be some extras (ymmv). the massaage girls aren't allowed to give fs like the other girls are but at the very least a handjob is on offer.

back in the main area the next show came on. as previously mentioned there are sometimes more customers than girls so the girls spread out among the guys for the shows and move from guy to guy. you end up alone for about 30 seconds before your turn. being the odd man out isn't so bad as you get to stare at the upraised bare ass and pussy of the girl across from you. as this was all free, i don't get why other guys are critical of the shows. for me the show and view was a fantastic bonus that never got old despite the girls and routine were the same (although the costumes and theme differed). where else can you have this kind of experience? after the show the girls stood around while the guys chose. the ones i wanted were already chosen (quite quickly) so i declined, although several of the 15 or so girls gave me eye contact and smiles. all were at least 7s, with a variety of different looks, and defintely a few 9s in the group. they all had great bodies, and i didn't see one that looked a day over 25. most looked 18-20.

now here's where the sanado experience really began to differ from eighteen. the manager came up to me, noticed i hadn't chosen, and wanted to make sure i had a good time. he set me up in a chair that had a better view of the ladies and checked in with me several times to make sure i was getting what i wanted. that's what i call service.

i did eventually choose an incredibly hot petite 20 year old chinese woman who gave me without a doubt the most spectacular full body massage performance i've ever had in my entire life. she did things to me with her mouth i can't even explain, and took care of me the entire time. it didn't matter that she didn't speak english. in her hands i was a prince, and that's what i came for.

i stayed for several hours after that, enjoyed another massage with a different but equally hot indonesian girl what was also quite memorable, and decided to take a different but also stunning petite chinese woman with natural d's who, although she was less skilled and attentive than my first, still performed like a champ, and after much effort i eventually finished on her lovely pair. i paid a little extra for her to wear a skimpy costume, but i don't recommend it as the costume comes off in seconds and it doesn't lead to any kind of role play, at least not for me. it felt like the girl got a commission from the upsell.

the staff to a person was helpful, the women were all beautiful and young, the food and drinks were good, and the place was spotless. they pay attention to you at sanado, and make you feel welcome.

the damage? all in all my experience at sanado came to a bit over 4, 000hkd, including extra massages, pedicure, ear cleaning, food, juice, and two different hour-long sessions. i spent the entire night there. from about 7pm to 7am. you could skip most of the extras and buy a package for 1, 200hkd, but i wasn't there to save money. they had a quiet place to sleep that they offered but i spent the night in ease and debauchery. it was without question worth every penny. i give them my highest recommendation and will absolutely return. i only wish we had something like that in my country.

a few other points. if you're planning on dashing over to macau from hong kong international airport on a layover, you should allow three hours of travel each way. do not take the macau ferry from the airport. it only departs a couple of times a day, and you can't buy a package deal from the airport. if time is a factor buy a package so you don't have to wait for ferry tickets.

check your baggage in the left luggage facility in the lower levels, it is cheaper than the one on the main floor. don't check your passport, you'll need it for customs / immigration at the ferry terminal.

here's the cheapest way to macau from hong kong international, which is also the fastest way i found short of chartering a helicopter:

take the airport express train directly from hong kong airport to hong kong / central station. buy the round-trip ticket from the automated machine in the airport. or better yet buy an octopus card as you can use them on the subway and even macau buses. aiport express trains leave every 12 minutes or so and take 24 minutes to take you to hong kong / central station.

once you get off of the train you have to walk quite a ways underground in the subway station to get to the blue line. it seemed like 10-15 minutes of walking to me. from central station take the blue line subway to the sheung wan station which connects directly to the ferry terminal. there are maps everywhere in english and it won't be hard to figure out. subway trains come every five minutes or so but stop running around midnight (or possibly 1am).

it's about a 10 minute walk to the ferry terminal from the subway, just follow the signs. once in the ferry terminal buy a package deal at the sauna and you can practically walk right aboard a ferry. otherwise you might have to wait a long time. i doubt you will save a penny on services at the sauna, but you likely will save hours of time and hassle trying to get on a ferry both ways. with the package deal the tour operator hands you a pre-purchased ticket usually on the next departing ferry. i didn't realize how convenient this was until i tried to get back to hk saturday night at about 12am. there were several hundred people trying to get back to hk, all sitting miserably in a standby line. they all had that resigned, sad sort of look that people get when they know they're stuck for hours. at that time the ferries were booked until about 4am. but i walked into the terminal, located the tour office on the ground floor, got a ticket and was on a ferry in about 20 minutes. at least at the macau terminal the ferry offices are open 24/7. priceless.

you can find the guys selling the package deals in the hk ferry terminal in retail storefronts on the same level as departures. there are at least two of them. one sells tickets to eighteen and a few others, and another sells tickets to sanado and a few others. they're quite helpful, professional, friendly, will explain what you get in each package, and they accept credit cards, which show up as a rather innocuous "travel, hong kong" on your credit card statement.

once at the macau terminal just take a cab and show the cab driver your package ticket. it has directions printed on it. the cab ride is short. on the way back you can hop on a #3 bus (it stops right across the street from sanado) and get to the airport in about 3 minutes for 3. 20hkd.

it took me a little over two and a half hours to get to sanado from the airport, and about the same getting back. i also knew the way, already had hk coin and currency, and i walk quite fast.

perhaps i'll write up my experiences in hk in another trip report, but suffice it to say that macau was far and away a superior experience to hk. (based on my experiences at 37 dundas and wan chai only)

[quote=bacchuswest; 1234577]i'm posting this report fill in some gaps that i didn't find on the board despite exhaustive searching. i found macau to be a man's paradise, but you have to know where to go and what to expect. it's a little long but there's at least one amusing bit, so sorry about all the detail.

after extensive research on the forum and elsewhere i decided to try sauna eighteen first. i should have taken a cab, but i enjoy getting lost. i don't recommend walking around macau trying to find a sauna. macau is small but not that small. i got rather lucky and found both saunas without a cab, directions, or a map. if you call 'lucky' having to walk around for a few hours, that is.

if you're caucasian, like me, and don't speak a word of mandarin, portuguese, cantonese, or any other dialect that might have helped, and insist on doing it the hard way, know that the owners of the saunas don't go out of their way to advertise. the only way for an illiterate foreign devil such as myself to notice sauna 18 is by a discreet podium-like thing that sits out in front of the hotel. the podium has a few suggestive pictures of hot asian women and if you look quite closely the words sauna eighteen are printed quite small. you'd never notice if you didn't stop and inspect the sign. the first time i saw the podium i thought it was just a place for the bellhop to lean against, or a taxi stand. it is that understated.

sauna 18 is also inside the hotel proper. coming from a place where mongering is illegal, i didn't expect it to be inside a reasonably nice hotel. to the side, apart, adjacent, down a dark alley, something like that, sure. but inside? compared to some of the pretty shady places i've had to monger, it sure makes one feel safe and relaxed.

you have to take the hotel elevator to get to it, and there is also a different men's club in the hotel on another floor which looked more like a lap dancing club.

inside, eighteen is fit out like a high end health club. lots of wood and marble. everything is clean and well-appointed. not tacky or ostentatious. i went on a saturday night and arrived at about 7pm. the busiest possible time, by choice. i wanted to see the best of the best. i was greeted in english (however did they guess?) and shown to the locker room. i had purchased one of those package deals at the hk ferry terminal.

it didn't bother me that the attendant stood around while i undressed. he could care less about me or my pasty nekkid body and was just doing his job, but i can see how some people might be put off by having a guy just standing there while you disrobe. was handed a towel and a key, and the attendant took great pains to explain the different numbers and prices for each type of woman. he even wrote it down on a slip of paper for me, which i somehow lost track of when i needed it most.

next to the locker room is a large open pool and shower area. i gather this area is currently under construction. a reasonably attractive vietnamese girl in her late twenties, and a 6-7 on the looks scale but with huge natural dd titties offered to wash me down and made it clear that it was part of my package and there was no extra charge. be careful if you don't have that service as part of your package. she gave me a nice warm washdown and paid thorough attention to my balls and arse. i should mention that there were about 8 other guys around at the time in the pool area. nobody cared or paid me any attention but again i could see how it could put someone off.

now a long series of upsells began at 18. she then offered to give me an exfoliating massage in the massage room. here i made a few mistakes. she made it clear that it was going to cost me extra, that's no big deal. my first mistake was that as she did the massage the first show began and i missed out on a parade of hot women. whether it was deliberate or not i don't know, but the timing was a little fishy. i should have done the massage later. my second mistake is that i didn't get more sexually aggressive with her. i should have pawed her all over and gotten a look at her fabulous titties. i'm certain at least a handjob was included with the massage, and probably more. ymmv perhaps. the exfoliating massage was mildly painful and not entirely pleasant, i should have told her to stuff that and oil me up or suck my cock. anyone have any idea if that kind of play is on offer?

when i got out the show was long over. i was led to the next room where i was toweled off and given boxers and a robe by another cute vietnamese who asked for a 50hkd tip for the 'service. ' i gave her little titties a quick feel-up and tipped her, and we flirted a bit. it was a fair exchange, but the pushiness for tips was irritating.

the next room was quite large and filled with maybe sixty reclining lounge chairs. most were occupied. there was a small area with computers and lots of big screen televisions around. here i was kind of left to figure things out for myself, so i got myself a chair. pretty quickly i was asked if i wanted a shoulder massage by a somewhat cute massage girl which i declined. a couple of minutes later, of all things, a guy asked me if i wanted a pedicure. i found that odd, actually a little gross, no in fact quite repulsive, and declined that too. there were at least two other westerners in the area, but i didn't speak with any of them. drinks were on offer, as well as food, some of both was free. some of the working girls in skimpy outfits were pacing around looking for targets, but i was never so much as looked at by any of them, despite my attempts to get their attention. possibly because i'm western, possibly because i'd previously declined all service offers and that branded me as a low-roller. it left me feeling somewhat sad and quite alone. i've never been in a place like that where the women didn't just flock to a guy. in the lounge it was practically the opposite.

so i sat around and became rather bored until i noticed someone texting on their phone. i didn't realize you could bring your phone into the lounge, so up i went to get my blackberry out of the locker. my walking back to the locker room caused a bit of a stir until the staff realized that i wasn't leaving.

having a phone helped pass the time until the show, which was held out in the pool area. i'd chosen 18 because i wanted to see a huge selection of girls and i'd heard they had the youngest and most beautiful women. the show began with a dull 'pole dance without a pole' from a cute asian. i think the management's idea was that this display would get the men worked up. without exaggeration, i've seen amateur fat american 40 year olds in swinger clubs take the pole with better moves. this girl had an utterly plastic manner and would clearly rather have been at the dentist than swaying her hips unmusically to the crowd, so the effect was more comic than erotic.

at last the fabled lineup happened. at least 60 girls came out. so many that i completely lost track of who was who. looking back on it there were actually too many girls. they moved too quick, and from prior research i felt a lot of pressure to make a quick decision lest all the hot ones got snapped up. i'd say that 9 out of 10 of the girls seemed pretty disinterested, in me at least. their vibe? not 'i'm a hot unattainable haughty, you'll never have me. ' no, more like 'i'd rather be shoveling cow dung. ' many trying not to be seen if felt like. the opposite of erotic. i'd also say that 40 of the 60 were nothing special to look at, but all were young and had nice bodies.

per the forum recommendations i'd read on the board, i looked for a girl that smiled at me and gave me lots of eye contact and some idea that she was interested. three or four of the sixty present did give me smiles and eye contact but one stood out as the most beautiful. there were several managers standing around, so i turned to one and gave the number. it was here that i could have used my cheat sheet, but alas it was the last thing on my mind. the numbers are quite hard to read at least for an old guy like me, so be sure you're close enough.

i wanted to stay for the rest of the show, but i was hustled out of there having made my choice. for all i know another 60 women came out, everyone got a free blowjob, and a massive orgy erupted. i'm pretty disappointed at being treated that way by the staff, it was brusque and in my opinion broke what little of the mood i'd been holding on to. i would have much rather stuck around and ogled the goods on display, and if (big if) i ever return i'll make an attempt to feign that i don't understand what they're saying and stand my ground, or just watch the first show and wait for the second show to choose.

after having made my choice and being forced back into the main lounge room nobody said a word to me so i started back to my lounge chair. after a moment in the chair i had a feeling that sitting there wasn't the right thing to do. good thing too, as i almost missed out. what you're supposed to do is go and stand around this sort of cashier-type desk next to some stairs going down. i was hurredly asked if i wanted the special condom, to which i said yes. i wanted one of those japanese polyurethane super-thin condoms, which i got. unfortunately she also shoved some kind of thicker package in my hand as well (which to my complete horror turned out to be a cheap vibrating plastic cock ring). before i could think to say 'no' to the cock ring or inquire about the price i was led downstairs in the manner of a harried schoolmarm with a bunch of bratty kids along with my fellow mongers (about 10 of us). i found that quite distasteful and rude and at the end i think the damn thing cost me 100 hkd, which is outrageous. a crisp, efficient man then took us, like a high speed tour guide, each to our appointed rooms where i waited alone for my chosen girl to arrive.

the rooms were quite nice but tiny and cramped, had fresh towels and had just been cleaned. i saw a handful of pleasant female cleaning staff working the area and they looked quite busy.

why they bothered to hustle us to the rooms i have no idea. i was the last to be escorted to my room but i still had to wait several minutes until my temporary girlfriend arrived. fortunately, she was beautiful, even more so than in the lineup. a solid 9 in looks, and her body an absolute 10. flawless skin, perfect c cup breasts, heart shaped ass, that long soft pussy hair that only asians seem to posess, and not an ounce of fat on her 22 year old nubile body. from somewhere in mainland china, but i can't remember let alone prounounce the name of the city. she didn't speak more than three or four words of english.

i was expecting a fairly mechanical performance. and i'm okay with that, if the performer is a young beautiful woman, which she was. and it was mechanical. she had her routine and stuck to it. you can read all about the detail in many other posts. it did not deviate. after the shower activites she wasted six or eight of my very expensive minutes overwashing herself alone while i sat naked on the bed getting cold and awaiting her. so long did she take that when she emerged she must have been the cleanest woman within a thousand miles.

before i can stop her this silly girl unrolls my expensive japanese special condom. unrolls the whole damn thing. on her finger and then tries to slide the now useless unrolled condom on to mr. happy with predictable results. so after prodding and pulling for a bit she rips it. it's true. i ask you gentlemen, how can a woman in one of the most expensive and supposedly exclusive cathouses in macau not get instruction in putting a condom on properly?

now after a lot of fuss she eventually produces another one and starts to unroll that one as well. this time i stop her before it is too late and put it on myself the right way. but wait, there's more. now she doesn't think the condom goes down far enough on my cock. this is taking on the order of ten minutes at this point, and the entire affair is not exactly arousing. i can just feel the minutes slipping away. but somehow i manage to stay hard. finally i'm suited up to her standards and ready to go.

so there i am, missionary position, finally fully engaged with this beautiful creature. the final act commences at last. and i'm just finally starting to enjoy myself, with perhaps four minutes of time remaining. and now, out of her presumably giant bag of sexy tricks, what does she decide to do to heighten the erotic experience? wait for it. she starts to pick her nose. not a dainty scratch, no. she goes on a fucking expedition in there. if there was an olympic event for nose-picking, she'd win the bronze at least. now i've seen a lot of unusual things in my outings. but never once has any of my erotic providers stuck her finger up her nose during the act. imagine, if you will, my horror. i was speechless, not that she'd understand a word i said even if i'd said something. and yet, beyond all hope i was able to finish the deed, as even that repulsive behaivor was overcome by her world class titties and tight asian pussy. she showered me, let me towel myself off, led me by the hand to the staircase and politely wished me goodbye with a peck on the cheek, and bounced off with a self-assured manner that bespoke a job well done.

at that point the staff continued to ignore me or made it clear which way the exit was (in some cases helpfully pointing me the way out) and thanked me for coming. i changed, paid the difference between my ticket and the extras i ordered (the expensive condom, useless cock ring, tips, and the exfoliating massage). i could have made a scene and gotten the girl in trouble but i just wanted the hell out of there. i had expected to be royally treated, and to get mechanical service from a top quality girl. instead i felt that i'd been royally fucked and hung out to dry by a mechanic.

fair warning to you all about sauna eighteen. i saw a lot of chinese guys there who looked quite happy and i'm sure the experience would have been better had i spoken mandarin.

that experience nearly put me off of saunas and macau altogether, but fortunately i decided to try sanado on another night.

sanado is about as opposite an experience to eighteen as a person could have. granted, i opted for a higher-end package this time, some 1, 900hkd, which included all kinds of things like massages and pool treatment. on my previous walking tour of macau searching for 18 i'd seen sanado, which is just down the street from the holiday inn, close to rio and almost directly across the street from the metropark hotel.

once inside i was warmly greeted in english and led inside to the showers. there were a half dozen quite attractive asian women waiting around. i recalled that my package gave me the right to choose who i wanted to suck my cock during the shower, so i chose a beautiful specimen who latered me up and gave me about a 20 second bbbj which was quite nice. i was then led into the pool / changing area after i'd dried off. this was the only negative experience i had at sanado. i thought i'd read that if you got into the pool a girl would come in with you and you could fool around with them. i was looking forward to that so i hopped into the pool. and. nothing happened. girls came and went, i tried to make eye contact, no go. i sat in the pool for 15 minutes with no luck. ok fine. i went back to shower off and was pleasantly surprised by getting to choose yet another hot girl for another quick bbbj treatment in the shower, which i enjoyed. i later found out that i was supposed to choose a girl for the pool, because that's what my package gave me the right to do. i didn't find out how to do that exactly, but it was later made clear to me that i could trade my pool experience for a massage, which i happily did.

i moved on to the next room, which was about a tenth the size of eighteen's with similar lounge chairs. there were a couple of other westerners there as well. i took a seat and was asked by a very attractive indonesian woman if i wanted a back rub. my package included this so i enthusiastically said yes, and she did a lovely job, spoke good english and seemed genuinely interested in me. i also got a foot massage from another woman who also seemed to really like me. i was feeling great at this point and well taken care of. here at last were the beautiful girls crawling all over me, being flirty, fun and genuinely warm. a few minutes later i was offered an ear cleaning, which i wanted to try, having heard they were erotic and quite nice. the actual experience was anything but erotic and slightly on the painful side. i also got a pedicure, thankfully this time by a woman. and then the hot indo backrub girl invited me for a private massage. hell yes i was into that. i won't go into detail but let me just say that we clicked, my massage was great and i enjoyed what seemed to be some extras (ymmv). the massaage girls aren't allowed to give fs like the other girls are but at the very least a handjob is on offer.

back in the main area the next show came on. as previously mentioned there are sometimes more customers than girls so the girls spread out among the guys for the shows and move from guy to guy. you end up alone for about 30 seconds before your turn. being the odd man out isn't so bad as you get to stare at the upraised bare ass and pussy of the girl across from you. as this was all free, i don't get why other guys are critical of the shows. for me the show and view was a fantastic bonus that never got old despite the girls and routine were the same (although the costumes and theme differed). where else can you have this kind of experience? after the show the girls stood around while the guys chose. the ones i wanted were already chosen (quite quickly) so i declined, although several of the 15 or so girls gave me eye contact and smiles. all were at least 7s, with a variety of different looks, and defintely a few 9s in the group. they all had great bodies, and i didn't see one that looked a day over 25. most looked 18-20.

now here's where the sanado experience really began to differ from eighteen. the manager came up to me, noticed i hadn't chosen, and wanted to make sure i had a good time. he set me up in a chair that had a better view of the ladies and checked in with me several times to make sure i was getting what i wanted. that's what i call service.

i did eventually choose an incredibly hot petite 20 year old chinese woman who gave me without a doubt the most spectacular full body massage performance i've ever had in my entire life. she did things to me with her mouth i can't even explain, and took care of me the entire time. it didn't matter that she didn't speak english. in her hands i was a prince, and that's what i came for.

i stayed for several hours after that, enjoyed another massage with a different but equally hot indonesian girl what was also quite memorable, and decided to take a different but also stunning petite chinese woman with natural d's who, although she was less skilled and attentive than my first, still performed like a champ, and after much effort i eventually finished on her lovely pair. i paid a little extra for her to wear a skimpy costume, but i don't recommend it as the costume comes off in seconds and it doesn't lead to any kind of role play, at least not for me. it felt like the girl got a commission from the upsell.

the staff to a person was helpful, the women were all beautiful and young, the food and drinks were good, and the place was spotless. they pay attention to you at sanado, and make you feel welcome.

the damage? all in all my experience at sanado came to a bit over 4, 000hkd, including extra massages, pedicure, ear cleaning, food, juice, and two different hour-long sessions. i spent the entire night there. from about 7pm to 7am. you could skip most of the extras and buy a package for 1, 200hkd, but i wasn't there to save money. they had a quiet place to sleep that they offered but i spent the night in ease and debauchery. it was without question worth every penny. i give them my highest recommendation and will absolutely return. i only wish we had something like that in my country.

a few other points. if you're planning on dashing over to macau from hong kong international airport on a layover, you should allow three hours of travel each way. do not take the macau ferry from the airport. it only departs a couple of times a day, and you can't buy a package deal from the airport. if time is a factor buy a package so you don't have to wait for ferry tickets.

check your baggage in the left luggage facility in the lower levels, it is cheaper than the one on the main floor. don't check your passport, you'll need it for customs / immigration at the ferry terminal.

here's the cheapest way to macau from hong kong international, which is also the fastest way i found short of chartering a helicopter:

take the airport express train directly from hong kong airport to hong kong / central station. buy the round-trip ticket from the automated machine in the airport. or better yet buy an octopus card as you can use them on the subway and even macau buses. aiport express trains leave every 12 minutes or so and take 24 minutes to take you to hong kong / central station.

once you get off of the train you have to walk quite a ways underground in the subway station to get to the blue line. it seemed like 10-15 minutes of walking to me. from central station take the blue line subway to the sheung wan station which connects directly to the ferry terminal. there are maps everywhere in english and it won't be hard to figure out. subway trains come every five minutes or so but stop running around midnight (or possibly 1am).

it's about a 10 minute walk to the ferry terminal from the subway, just follow the signs. once in the ferry terminal buy a package deal at the sauna and you can practically walk right aboard a ferry. otherwise you might have to wait a long time. i doubt you will save a penny on services at the sauna, but you likely will save hours of time and hassle trying to get on a ferry both ways. with the package deal the tour operator hands you a pre-purchased ticket usually on the next departing ferry. i didn't realize how convenient this was until i tried to get back to hk saturday night at about 12am. there were several hundred people trying to get back to hk, all sitting miserably in a standby line. they all had that resigned, sad sort of look that people get when they know they're stuck for hours. at that time the ferries were booked until about 4am. but i walked into the terminal, located the tour office on the ground floor, got a ticket and was on a ferry in about 20 minutes. at least at the macau terminal the ferry offices are open 24/7. priceless.

you can find the guys selling the package deals in the hk ferry terminal in retail storefronts on the same level as departures. there are at least two of them. one sells tickets to eighteen and a few others, and another sells tickets to sanado and a few others. they're quite helpful, professional, friendly, will explain what you get in each package, and they accept credit cards, which show up as a rather innocuous "travel, hong kong" on your credit card statement.

once at the macau terminal just take a cab and show the cab driver your package ticket. it has directions printed on it. the cab ride is short. on the way back you can hop on a #3 bus (it stops right across the street from sanado) and get to the airport in about 3 minutes for 3. 20hkd.

it took me a little over two and a half hours to get to sanado from the airport, and about the same getting back. i also knew the way, already had hk coin and currency, and i walk quite fast.

perhaps i'll write up my experiences in hk in another trip report, but suffice it to say that macau was far and away a superior experience to hk. (based on my experiences at 37 dundas and wan chai only) [/quote]fantastic report bacchuswest. brings back all the memories of my last visit a year ago. sorry your eighteen experience was not up to expectations. could be the saturday night timing was much to blame. my visits are usually afternoons during the week and while the lineup is a bit thin (25-30) the overall experience is more relaxing.

sanado is my current 'sauna of choice' and i am salivating thinking about my next visit in march. on my last visit i took the girl from the shower by the hand and directed her to the pool with the plastic balls. she got the idea and did away with her top before sitting on my lap and grinding away. the floor show was inspirational (for my love muscle) with the line up of about 20 wearing skimpy orange things this time, while they did their round of the punters. my girl chose me last time and she chose well. i was the only foreigner there and continue to be a bit annoyed by the way the locals treat the girls. i engaged one of the drinks waitresses in conversation many times and would have arranged an off site meeting if i was staying longer.

hong kong saunas are as different from macau as chalk is to cheese. for me simply a place to unload and get on with the day.

@BacchusWest: Such a great read! I almost wet myself.

At the same time glad that your stay at Sanado turned out to be great. I have had mediocre to desastrous experiences at 37 Dundas and in Wan Chai but Sandao and East Spa gave me a fantastic compensation.

[QUOTE=BacchusWest;1234577]Perhaps I'll write up my experiences in HK in another trip report, but suffice it to say that Macau was far and away a superior experience to HK. (Based on my experiences at 37 Dundas and Wan Chai only)[/QUOTE]Thanks for the detailed and informative report and happy that you managed to have a good time in the end. Out of curiosity, what was the damage at 18Sauna in the end?

Also very interested to read your thoughts on WanChai and 37 Dundas. Both are on my lists of things to do in HK and it would be nice to read your take on it.

[QUOTE=Switched; 1234925]Thanks for the detailed and informative report and happy that you managed to have a good time in the end. Out of curiosity, what was the damage at 18Sauna in the end?

Also very interested to read your thoughts on WanChai and 37 Dundas. Both are on my lists of things to do in HK and it would be nice to read your take on it.[/QUOTE]My package including ferry and extras was about 1600HKD, but I could be off a bit.

Experiences in HK were on par with Nullnull. At 37 Dundas the girls that I was offered were, well. 37 and up. I said 'no' to mamasan and got a slight upgrade, but nothing under 37. Service was good but I can pull hotter women for free. I even came back a second time to demonstrate some kind of loyalty and got nothing for my efforts. Asians and regulars must get the pick of the litter. It was also dirty and poorly lit. I'll never go back.

Wan Chai also wasn't my thing. The carny aspect of walking around having female touts grab you by the arm and try to drag you in to pay for overpriced drinks may appeal to some, but not me. Pushy women are a big turn off for me. I also don't see the point in standing around in a loud bar listening to shite music and trying to small talk a bar girl. If I wanted conversation, I'd talk with someone who shared my interests. Making meaningless small talk about music tastes and hearing how much she loves her dog is not my idea of entertainment, more a complete waste of time. If I wanted that kind of overhead I'd have a girlfriend.

[QUOTE=BacchusWest; 1235363]My package including ferry and extras was about 1600HKD, but I could be off a bit.

Experiences in HK were on par with Nullnull. At 37 Dundas the girls that I was offered were, well. 37 and up. I said 'no' to mamasan and got a slight upgrade, but nothing under 37. Service was good but I can pull hotter women for free. I even came back a second time to demonstrate some kind of loyalty and got nothing for my efforts. Asians and regulars must get the pick of the litter. It was also dirty and poorly lit. I'll never go back.

Wan Chai also wasn't my thing. The carny aspect of walking around having female touts grab you by the arm and try to drag you in to pay for overpriced drinks may appeal to some, but not me. Pushy women are a big turn off for me. I also don't see the point in standing around in a loud bar listening to shite music and trying to small talk a bar girl. If I wanted conversation, I'd talk with someone who shared my interests. Making meaningless small talk about music tastes and hearing how much she loves her dog is not my idea of entertainment, more a complete waste of time. If I wanted that kind of overhead I'd have a girlfriend.[/QUOTE]I let them change the girls until they bring me something I like, I had to change them 4 times once. All those places usually start with girls at the low end. Regulars know their girls and don't even ask for a line up.

So be patinet and even if the mananger is pissed, ask for another line up.

For wanchai, either you like it or you don't, you get to spent a lot more time for the same price as for an hour in a sauna. I have never been grab in a bar. Only on the street and as usual the small talk depends on you and the girl.

I was supprised that some of the girls have a fairly high education but still get paid to get laid. Well, kinda the same in germany, a lot of the girls are university students or graduated and still can't get a job where they come from. Pretty much the same in most asian countries.

[QUOTE=BacchusWest; 1235363]My package including ferry and extras was about 1600HKD, but I could be off a bit.

Experiences in HK were on par with Nullnull. At 37 Dundas the girls that I was offered were, well. 37 and up. I said 'no' to mamasan and got a slight upgrade, but nothing under 37. Service was good but I can pull hotter women for free. I even came back a second time to demonstrate some kind of loyalty and got nothing for my efforts. Asians and regulars must get the pick of the litter. It was also dirty and poorly lit. I'll never go back.[/QUOTE]Thanks BacchusWest,

Was debating whether to go for K-Pressure or 37 Dundas, the impression I had was that the ladies were younger at Dundas, though I think NullNull reinforced your hygene concerns. Think I'll try Wanchai first and use one of the other 2 as a backup. I did like the Idea of the 141 building where you knock on the doors and get greeted by ladies and make your selection, but haven't worked out where that is yous.

I've read differing reports as to the scrubs and thigh massages. Do they finish you off on them?

I was at Sanado last year and they told me that if I paid for 2 thigh massages they would take me to another room and give a HJ which I did but I'm wondering about the scrubs also.

I've seen that most feel the thigh massage is just a tease but I've also heard that some will finish you off right there in the lounge.

I'm still debating about an overnight in either HKG or Macau and have been to both quite a few times but probably about 20 times more to HKG. If I go to Macau, I will spend at least 1600 for a sauna. 1000 for a room, ferry fare (I will go straight from the HKG airport) and may be tempted for another sauna at 1600+ again. If I stay in HKG, I can go to a sauna there for about 1000, a hotel for about 1000 and even a girl in Wanchai for about 1000 and throw in a 141 for 400-500 and still spend less.

Any one want to sway me one way or the other?

[QUOTE=Sugoi; 1235882]I've read differing reports as to the scrubs and thigh massages. Do they finish you off on them?

I was at Sanado last year and they told me that if I paid for 2 thigh massages they would take me to another room and give a HJ which I did but I'm wondering about the scrubs also.

I've seen that most feel the thigh massage is just a tease but I've also heard that some will finish you off right there in the lounge.

I'm still debating about an overnight in either HKG or Macau and have been to both quite a few times but probably about 20 times more to HKG. If I go to Macau, I will spend at least 1600 for a sauna. 1000 for a room, ferry fare (I will go straight from the HKG airport) and may be tempted for another sauna at 1600+ again. If I stay in HKG, I can go to a sauna there for about 1000, a hotel for about 1000 and even a girl in Wanchai for about 1000 and throw in a 141 for 400-500 and still spend less.

Any one want to sway me one way or the other?[/QUOTE]Usually a tigh massage is not in the lounge except RIO, all other saunas will have seperate rooms. The 1600 for a sauna is high end RIO or 18 sauna. There are cheaper ones with similar service and quality.

Generaly I can find cheaper hotels in Macao (I book on ctrip) you can also sleep in a sauna and save the cost for the hotel, familia noble has quite good rooms.

There are also low price options similar to dundas 37 in HK for 500 to 600 in Macao and some of the discos and bar also have girls for 1000, but not as much a Wanchai.

To sum things up, I prefer Macao for stunners and HK for GFE LT, also my last time in Macao was very GFE with a girl from DD club.

I can't realy tell you what to do. The last 3 times I simply sent my time half in HK half in Macao.

[QUOTE=Osuul; 1235888]Usually a tigh massage is not in the lounge except RIO, all other saunas will have seperate rooms. The 1600 for a sauna is high end RIO or 18 sauna. There are cheaper ones with similar service and quality.

Generaly I can find cheaper hotels in Macao (I book on ctrip) you can also sleep in a sauna and save the cost for the hotel, familia noble has quite good rooms.

There are also low price options similar to dundas 37 in HK for 500 to 600 in Macao and some of the discos and bar also have girls for 1000, but not as much a Wanchai.

To sum things up, I prefer Macao for stunners and HK for GFE LT, also my last time in Macao was very GFE with a girl from DD club.

I can't realy tell you what to do. The last 3 times I simply sent my time half in HK half in Macao.[/QUOTE]Yeah, the thigh massage I had on the floor was in 18. I'm leaning towards Macau but I like having a room rather than sleeping in the sauna. I once tried to get one of the Filipinas at Sanado to come to my room after she was off at 4am and she said she would but never showed up.

I need to make my decision in the next few hours as to HKG or Macau so if anyone else has some input, it is appreciated.

[QUOTE=Osuul; 1235888]Usually a tigh massage is not in the lounge except RIO, all other saunas will have seperate rooms. The 1600 for a sauna is high end RIO or 18 sauna. There are cheaper ones with similar service and quality.

Generaly I can find cheaper hotels in Macao (I book on ctrip) you can also sleep in a sauna and save the cost for the hotel, familia noble has quite good rooms.

There are also low price options similar to dundas 37 in HK for 500 to 600 in Macao and some of the discos and bar also have girls for 1000, but not as much a Wanchai.

To sum things up, I prefer Macao for stunners and HK for GFE LT, also my last time in Macao was very GFE with a girl from DD club.

I can't realy tell you what to do. The last 3 times I simply sent my time half in HK half in Macao.[/QUOTE]Sorry, but the thigh massage at Rio is not in the loiunge. It takes place in a small room equipped with the same reclining chairs of the main lounge.

Albeit being a very private environment it is not easy to "come to an end", as the girls are instructed not to (otherwise it becomes a too cheap option, as they want to push you into taking the soap expereience with the models of the "show time". Still if you book 1 couple of sessions in a row, the girl might be inclined to make you happy, in full"secret"

At Emperor the thigh massage takes place in the lounge with your precious parts covered by towels and action going on underneath. Again no happy ending.

The cost goes from 180 to 250MOP if I well recall, and the session lasts some 15/20'

I recommend the thigh massage. It is a good way to start out the evening. Think of it as an appetizer to a 4 course gourmet meal. Rio has the prettiest thigh massage girls IMO followed by East Spa. They are in the 25 to 30 something range and the ones I have had were from VN and spoke English. I made dates with three of them to meet me later at my hotel after their shifts to finish what they started. Later in the evening back at my hotel, I have found these ladies to be very horny. The massage is always in a private room off the lounge area. The girls are well trained not to take you to completion, but they are experts at HJ's. If this were all there was, I would not recommend this and consider it a rip off, but since it is but a prelude to things to come it is very enjoyable and is a pleasant way to pass the time until Showtime. I always find out how long it will be before the next Showtime before I take this option and I always tell the girl the session (30 minutes) ends when we hear the bell or my time is up whichever comes first.

One time, after the first thigh massage session, there was still enough time left before the next Showtime and I was enjoying this particular pretty thigh massage girl so much, that I went for a second back to back session with her. I was hard for 60 minutes all the time with her expert hands caressing my privates along with pleasant conversation. She would let me kiss her and massage her breasts once in a while, but she was very concerned about getting caught. Management is very strict about this. Of course I hooked up with her later and she spent the night with me. She started out with her famous hand job, then she went south and gave me a great BBBJ. Then she asked if I would eat her out. I took a look at her hairy little pussy. It looked great and smelled fine, so I broke my rule #3 and went down on her. This made her go wild. We shagged in multiple positions. Later we repeated it all two more times before she left in the morning around 9:30am. I gave her a 1000hk tip.

After the main event model super sessions, I like to return to the lounge area and relax. My massage girls always come around with big smiles and ask how my session was. If they are free they like to hang around and take care of me. I love it when they ask with no negativity or jealousy how the sex was with another younger prettier girl. Man's paradise. Western women should take note.

Rio also has the Japanese Bath option. This is offered in semi private rooms off the pool area. The Japanese Bath is basically a warm water soapy thigh massage and private parts washing performed by very attractive Chinese girls. Again, think of it as an appetizer to the main course and you won't be let down. It is very enjoyable. The Chinese pool girls are prettier and younger than the thigh massage ladies. Unfortunately, they do not speak English so I have never been able to arrange a rendezvous with any of them later. Damn! Both options cost around 200hk.

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1236064]Sorry, but the thigh massage at Rio is not in the loiunge. It takes place in a small room equipped with the same reclining chairs of the main lounge.

Albeit being a very private environment it is not easy to "come to an end", as the girls are instructed not to (otherwise it becomes a too cheap option, as they want to push you into taking the soap expereience with the models of the "show time". Still if you book 1 couple of sessions in a row, the girl might be inclined to make you happy, in full"secret"

At Emperor the thigh massage takes place in the lounge with your precious parts covered by towels and action going on underneath. Again no happy ending.

The cost goes from 180 to 250MOP if I well recall, and the session lasts some 15/20'[/QUOTE]Although it was about 2-3 years ago when I was at 18, it was in the lounge in front of everyone and by older 35-45yo women. I will probably try 2 options. I am thinking Sanado again since when I got there the first time it was after midnight and the shows were done and then maybe a no nonsense deal where you choose the girl, go to the room and do the deed. Any recommendation?

How is the Victoria hotel or the Hotel Riviera Macau? I can also consider the Regency hotel and the Hotel Royal Macau. I'd appreciate any insight.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Sugoi; 1236345]Although it was about 2-3 years ago when I was at 18, it was in the lounge in front of everyone and by older 35-45yo women. I will probably try 2 options. I am thinking Sanado again since when I got there the first time it was after midnight and the shows were done and then maybe a no nonsense deal where you choose the girl, go to the room and do the deed. Any recommendation?

How is the Victoria hotel or the Hotel Riviera Macau? I can also consider the Regency hotel and the Hotel Royal Macau. I'd appreciate any insight.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Hotel Royal is good, I specially liked the beds there that are a bit softer than the traditional Chinese hotel beds that are a tad too hard for my liking, but it is a bit out of way and sometimes you have to wait a long time to catch a taxi there if you don't feel like walking. Through the years, I have found the Metropark to have the best price / performance when it comes to no frills accomodation in Macau, and you can't beat the location if you are thinking Sanado since it is right across the street.

[QUOTE=Sugoi;1236345]How is the Victoria hotel or the Hotel Riviera Macau? I can also consider the Regency hotel and the Hotel Royal Macau. I'd appreciate any insight.[/QUOTE]The Royal is very good, but the location is a little off. At the same price point, check out the Holiday Inn. The Inn has a great location and Superior rooms go for around $85 except on Friday and Saturday. For a little more money the Lisboa is another good choice. Rooms in the west wing are sometimes available for around $115 and they are much nicer than the Holiday Inn. There are two Michelin star restaurants in the hotel and of course the racetrack. I love watching the girls promenade around the track, although I have never taken one for a ride. The icy vibes I get from them suggest a less than stellar good time. Still they are great eye candy and one of these days, one of these girls I fancy will give me the right signs. I always make daily stops by the racetrack for short 10-15 minute viewings while I am in Macau. After 3 or 4 consecutive days, the ice noticeably begins to melt as the girls seem to get used to my hanging around. That's when some of the girls start to approach me and make their pitch. The stunners still seem a little aloof, which is why I haven't gone upstairs with anyone, yet.

THis is my favorite sauna as I have been able to have Viet girls come over after each session. This time was no exception. She was very sweet and very horny as well.

All the amenities of a true GFE, BBBJ, ball sucking, AR, DFK, and whatever else was on the menu. Price was $600mop for short time as I had to do things during the day.

PC out

[QUOTE=Henio;1236365]Hotel Royal is good, I specially liked the beds there that are a bit softer than the traditional Chinese hotel beds that are a tad too hard for my liking, but it is a bit out of way and sometimes you have to wait a long time to catch a taxi there if you don't feel like walking. Through the years, I have found the Metropark to have the best price / performance when it comes to no frills accomodation in Macau, and you can't beat the location if you are thinking Sanado since it is right across the street.[/QUOTE]I agree, location is great. Easy walk to Sanado, Rio, Familia Nobre, Golden, etc.

I was just there and they gave me an upgrade to the mini suite again since I'm an old customer now LOL.

PC out

was there before and had an ok time. this time the place was run down badly. god taking a shower with luke warm water, nasty unkeep shower area, lousey food, getting a massage with an really old mama with a bad attitude. never again! did change therapists and got an younger who threw in the hj for free??

the sleeping area was like a cooler it was so cold. i couldn't much stand it and left at 7am. sad as the hkia boat at 9 am was cancelled and i had to goto kowloon to catch the train to hkia for flight back. waste of 180 more hkds, lol.

pc out

I'm going to Macau for the first time next week for a few days and want to know if anyone has a recent review of the Grand Emperor Sauna. A friend recommended it to me as the first one to try?

[QUOTE=Pcpc1688;1245496]This time the place was run down badly. God taking a shower with luke warm water, nasty unkeep shower area, lousey food,[/QUOTE]And they have shower guys. And I go to the shower and the guy just stands there as I'm about to get into the shower. If it was a girl no problem, but it was a guy. I tell him that he can leave and he finally does. It was really grotty though.

Amazingly enough I pick this girl that turns out to be wonderful. 10/10 in the service department, and pretty good looking to boot.

Thats the thing about sauna reviews and recommendations, the place was a total shit hole but I had some good service and would probably go back.

I just arrived in Macau on Feb 6 and I had to take a few minutes to post. I saw a few changes from last year:

Rio Sauna – not nearly as great as it once was. Don't get me wrong, I had a great first night there, but the quality was down from last Feb – March when I saw at least 20 Chinese stunners at show time. It didn't matter then who I chose. This year, I did not see one Chinese girl that I really wanted and picked instead a very pretty Thai girl in the 800 category. She was great!

East – this is now the best place IMHO, at least so far. They have done away with musical chairs and now the girls just line up for show time – which is actually better. There were three or four very attractive stunner Chinese super models, but I picked a super cute regular Chinese spinner girl because she smiled demurely at me. I sure made the right choice. She had a great body with lovely conical little 'A' cup mounds and one of the most beautiful pussy's I have ever seen. Her lips were so well formed and slightly tanner than the surrounding skin color. Actually they changed color half way down the length. She started to give me a BJ and slightly positioned her ass to me. I started to play with her beautiful pussy and she turned up to me and asked if I wanted to kiss her. Well guys I don't go down on many working girls, maybe 1 in 100, but that pussy looked so good and smelled real fresh so how could I resist? And so we 69'd. After awhile we shagged and she felt so good, I barely lasted 10 to 15 minutes inside her. She spoke no English, but she was a doll and I intended to see her again the next night.

But for some reason, I don't know, I called an audible at the last minute and went instead to another boutique sauna. I will not give the name, because I don't want to get anybody in trouble. Some of you guys can probably figure out where it was I went. Anyway I arrived and showered just in time for show time so without batting an eye, I picked a Vietnamese girl who was probably the cutest girl in the line up. The only thing I did not like about her was she had bolt-ons. Most girls in this place have something added. She took me to a room and gave me the soapy body massage, rim job, warm BJ and we had nice shag, but this was not the highlight of the evening! I walked back to the lounge area and a girl offered to give me a shoulder massage. While having this massage, an exotic girl (I won't mention nationalities) came over with a naughty smile and asked if I wanted a thigh massage. Initially I said no thanks, but exotic girl hung around and I started to dig her sexiness. Cut to the chase; she gave me a ho hum thigh massage for roughly 20 minutes while we talked and she told me her recent love history. Then near the end of our 30 minutes, she started sucking my dick. I was pretty surprised by this turn of events because it never happened to me before during a thigh massage in a Macau sauna. Our session ended and she asked if I wanted another 30 minutes. I said sure. Then this sexy Asian girl made love to my cock with her mouth for the next 30 minutes. It was one of the best BJ's I have ever had. She kept bringing me close to orgasm and then slowing it down. I asked her if it would be alright to cum in here mouth. She smiled at me and continued to blow me until she finished me off. We exchanged phone numbers and email addresses. I am going to see her again this afternoon before she goes to work. I am really hot for her, but it is ridiculous, there are so many hot women in Macau. I couldn't bang them all even if I had all the time in the world.

So that is my quick on the scene Macau report. Two remarkable girls, one really cute girl, and a pornstar Viet in three nights on the town. More to report later.

Let me preface this by saying that I have only ever been to one other sauna in Macau, Sauna 18, where I always had good service. Based on the positive reports in this thread and because I was not sure if the renovation at 18 was still going on I decided to try Sanado. Granted this was the week-end after the Chinese New Year so a lot of the girls went home. Fact is, I got there at 11PM on a Friday night and there were about 9 ladies. Considering that I bought a package in HKG for 1875 HKD, which is very close to what I would have paid for the sauna 18 package, I was disappointed by the lack of selection. Took a shower by myself since there was no-one to take care of guests and was brought to the main room where I sat down in the only available chair. There was a brief show during which the girls went from customer to customer, it only happened once the whole night and lasted about 10 minutes total.

After that, I was given a choice of 5 girls, most of them ugly, picked one because I had already paid, went to the room and after the usual massage she complained that I was too big and offered a HJ instead of FS. We settled on BJ, which eventually became a HJ anyway. I complained to the manager (the one who I was told speaks English) , he said he would get me another girl, disappeared, never came back. Several times I tried to get another girl from the other manager (a lady who turned out to also speak English) she said I would have to wait because no-one is available, then would disappear as well. Tired of waiting I decided to call it a night and asked for a room to go to sleep. No rooms, unless I paid 200 MOP, screw that I remained in the chair. Later I remembered that my package included a surcharge for an "oil massage" and inquired about it. Nobody seemed to know what that was, or care. After I insisted heavily I was taken to a room by a girl who made no effort whatsoever to communicate with me, showered me for 5 minutes, gave me a BJ for another 5 minutes and ran out of the room, guess that was in place of the oil massage.

I just found the whole experience unpleasant, I would not go back to Sanado. The only nice ladies there were the Indonesians performing the thigh or shoulder or face massage, either one of them would have met me outside the sauna if I had time, which I did not. They tried to help me communicate with management, but like I said management did not appear to care at all.

Let me add that I am a Caucasian and had the distinct impression throughout the night that Chinese customers received much more consideration than me.

Not recommended based on my apparently exceptionally bad experience.

All of Macau is directed towards Chinese customers, there are very few caucasions there by percentage, and nobody should expect anything but rudimentary service during New Year.

[QUOTE=Mahal; 1246775]Let me preface this by saying that I have only ever been to one other sauna in Macau, Sauna 18, where I always had good service. Based on the positive reports in this thread and because I was not sure if the renovation at 18 was still going on I decided to try Sanado. Granted this was the week-end after the Chinese New Year so a lot of the girls went home. Fact is, I got there at 11PM on a Friday night and there were about 9 ladies. Considering that I bought a package in HKG for 1875 HKD, which is very close to what I would have paid for the sauna 18 package, I was disappointed by the lack of selection. Let me add that I am a Caucasian and had the distinct impression throughout the night that Chinese customers received much more consideration than me.

Not recommended based on my apparently exceptionally bad experience.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1246183]I just arrived in Macau on Feb 6 and I had to take a few minutes to post. I saw a few changes from last year:

Rio Sauna – not nearly as great as it once was. Don't get me wrong, I had a great first night there, but the quality was down from last Feb – March when I saw at least 20 Chinese stunners at show time. It didn't matter then who I chose. This year, I did not see one Chinese girl that I really wanted and picked instead a very pretty Thai girl in the 800 category. She was great!

East – this is now the best place IMHO, at least so far. They have done away with musical chairs and now the girls just line up for show time – which is actually better. There were three or four very attractive stunner Chinese super models, but I picked a super cute regular Chinese spinner girl because she smiled demurely at me. I sure made the right choice. She had a great body with lovely conical little 'A' cup mounds and one of the most beautiful pussy's I have ever seen. Her lips were so well formed and slightly tanner than the surrounding skin color. Actually they changed color half way down the length. She started to give me a BJ and slightly positioned her ass to me. I started to play with her beautiful pussy and she turned up to me and asked if I wanted to kiss her. Well guys I don't go down on many working girls, maybe 1 in 100, but that pussy looked so good and smelled real fresh so how could I resist? And so we 69'd. After awhile we shagged and she felt so good, I barely lasted 10 to 15 minutes inside her. She spoke no English, but she was a doll and I intended to see her again the next night.

But for some reason, I don't know, I called an audible at the last minute and went instead to another boutique sauna. I will not give the name, because I don't want to get anybody in trouble. Some of you guys can probably figure out where it was I went. Anyway I arrived and showered just in time for show time so without batting an eye, I picked a Vietnamese girl who was probably the cutest girl in the line up. The only thing I did not like about her was she had bolt-ons. Most girls in this place have something added. She took me to a room and gave me the soapy body massage, rim job, warm BJ and we had nice shag, but this was not the highlight of the evening! I walked back to the lounge area and a girl offered to give me a shoulder massage. While having this massage, an exotic girl (I won't mention nationalities) came over with a naughty smile and asked if I wanted a thigh massage. Initially I said no thanks, but exotic girl hung around and I started to dig her sexiness. Cut to the chase; she gave me a ho hum thigh massage for roughly 20 minutes while we talked and she told me her recent love history. Then near the end of our 30 minutes, she started sucking my dick. I was pretty surprised by this turn of events because it never happened to me before during a thigh massage in a Macau sauna. Our session ended and she asked if I wanted another 30 minutes. I said sure. Then this sexy Asian girl made love to my cock with her mouth for the next 30 minutes. It was one of the best BJ's I have ever had. She kept bringing me close to orgasm and then slowing it down. I asked her if it would be alright to cum in here mouth. She smiled at me and continued to blow me until she finished me off. We exchanged phone numbers and email addresses. I am going to see her again this afternoon before she goes to work. I am really hot for her, but it is ridiculous, there are so many hot women in Macau. I couldn't bang them all even if I had all the time in the world.

So that is my quick on the scene Macau report. Two remarkable girls, one really cute girl, and a pornstar Viet in three nights on the town. More to report later.[/QUOTE]Natty,

I'm so jealous LOL. You nail all the cuties all the time. Are you the stud from Thailand? Haha.

We must get together in Macau one day so you can show mw all the ropes bro!

PC out

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1246183]I couldn't bang them all even if I had all the time in the world.

QUOTE]

Never stop trying.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1246183].

So that is my quick on the scene Macau report. Two remarkable girls, one really cute girl, and a pornstar Viet in three nights on the town. More to report later.[/QUOTE]I'm jealous too!

I had a great time in Sanado and East Spa but I missed the part of taking a lovely Indo girl to my hotel room. Maybe next time!

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1246183]Natty Bumpo, excellent report, way to go. By the way, the girl who had the most beautiful pussy, did she shave part or all of her pussy? If, yes, what shape?

I had never been blown by any thigh massage girl in the shop (in my room, yes a few occasions) , except once in Emperor, a facial girl who was massaging my head offered BJ right there while my usual girl worked on my thigh and dick. I didn't take it partly because it was not free and partly my thigh massgae girl told her that I would not be very interested in BJ and she had better got her ass ready if she would like to go further!

Hi All,

First post here. I went to Sanado last Thursday and had a good time. This was my third time there and the first two times were back in late 2010. Sanado had better selection back then I must say. Someone local there was saying that the ladies have not come back from Chinese New Years yet, but I do not think that is correct. Anyway, there were about 15-20 girls and the quality was a little less than last year. New for this time was that I was asked to select the shower girl. Quick BJ followed. Once at the main room, the massage girls were more aggressive selling their foot, shoulder, and head massages which was a bit annoying. Had a nice thigh massage from a really cute viet chick. I also had some great chats from the indo massage girls working their now. The place was only about half full BTW when I arrived around 8 PM. I sat through the first show and selected a girl. The second show also had a 30 second BJ which was nice. Anyway, I cannot recall the number I selected and she was nothing special to be honest. In hindsight, I wish that I would have waited until the second show that started as I got back out. The second show was much better and it was easier to gauge their bodies as they were pretty much naked in maids outfits. My girl at Sanado set me back 1500, and I spent another 900 in massages etc. It would have been another 200 if you select a model (models are just taller, not prettier). I left around 2 AM and went to D2 disco and picked up a Pinoy for 1, 000. Not really worth it but that is another story. I will write another report about Darling 1 in a while, had two absolutely awesome girls there.

Cheers

Thanks for the update. Sanado will be my first port of call next week. While I stay in HK for business intend taking a couple of afternoon excursions to the Macau playground and giving HK saunas a miss. Interesting the main room girls were more aggressive. Hope they don't get like 18, my intended 2nd port of call if I can be bothered with their constant sales push.

First post here. I went to Sanado last Thursday and had a good time. This was my third time there and the first two times were back in late 2010. Sanado had better selection back then I must say. Someone local there was saying that the ladies have not come back from Chinese New Years yet, but I do not think that is correct. Anyway, there were about 15-20 girls and the quality was a little less than last year. New for this time was that I was asked to select the shower girl. Quick BJ followed. Once at the main room, the massage girls were more aggressive selling their foot, shoulder, and head massages which was a bit annoying. Had a nice thigh massage from a really cute viet chick. I also had some great chats from the indo massage girls working their now. The place was only about half full BTW when I arrived around 8 PM. I sat through the first show and selected a girl. The second show also had a 30 second BJ which was nice. Anyway, I cannot recall the number I selected and she was nothing special to be honest. In hindsight, I wish that I would have waited until the second show that started as I got back out. The second show was much better and it was easier to gauge their bodies as they were pretty much naked in maids outfits. My girl at Sanado set me back 1500, and I spent another 900 in massages etc. It would have been another 200 if you select a model (models are just taller, not prettier). I left around 2 AM and went to D2 disco and picked up a Pinoy for 1, 000. Not really worth it but that is another story. I will write another report about Darling 1 in a while, had two absolutely awesome girls there.

Cheers[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Thor Loke;1250738]First post here. I went to Sanado last Thursday and had a good time. This was my third time there and the first two times were back in late 2010. Sanado had better selection back then I must say. Someone local there was saying that the ladies have not come back from Chinese New Years yet, but I do not think that is correct.[/QUOTE]Hi Thor Loke, Welcome to the forum.

This has to be about the 3rd or 4th recent post from a repeat visitor talking about how the standards at Sanado have dropped. I have read the last couple of years worth of posts in this forum and Sanado was on top of the saunas to visit list, only now I am not so sure.

Not sure if this is a legacy of the GFC or if there is not enough competition out there (also read that there are only 2 real sauna owners in Macau) , but this is a scary read. I may still visit, but it is not as certain as it once was.

I went two days in a row to Darling 1 after my first evening at Sanado. This was my first time at Darling 1. It is located at the Jai Alai casino right next to the ferry terminal. The bouncers outside will point you towards the elevator (also asked if you have any coupons) as you arrive. You enter the elevator and go to level 3. As soon as you step out, you are in a large room with the fish bowl and girls to your left and straight ahead. The elevator is behind you and there is a bar on the right. There are sofas to sit down and relax while you make your selection. I went there around 5:30 PM on Friday which seemed like a great time of day for both days from a selection point of view. The hostess said that many of the girls start their shift at 5 PM to 2 AM. The hostess was from Indonesia and she was very friendly and spoke great english. She explained everything as she asked me if I wanted a drink. I ordered a beer which was complementary. Having a beer while you are sitting down was a really good decision. It forces you to have plenty of time to make your selection as well as keeping pressure off. The girls are only 10 feet from you and know you are there until your drink is finished. All of the girls that want you are smiling as you look at them. The ones that were not smiling were out of contention in my book. The hostess sat down next to me while I was drinking my beer. She told me that the price is 1, 544 for the Thais (red numbers) and the Viets (blue numbers). The PRC girls have green numbers and I think they were all models (again just tall, not prettier) , so 200 extra. There was only 3-4 viets when I arrived. There were probably 10-15 Thais. Another 20 PRCs. I also saw 1 Russian and the hostess said they have 4 Russians (hot BTW, saw one more on my way out). The hostess also said you can have two at the same time for a 500 discount, so it would have been 1, 544x2. 500. The quality of the girls was the best I have seen in Macau so far. I went to Darling 2 last year and had to walk out, could not make a selection there. Anyway, you will feel a lot of pressure from the girls to pick "her" and having the beer or drink is a great call. After eying the ladies for 10 minutes, I was finally ready to make my decision. I was torn between 2 Thais and one Viet, and picked the Viet. This was number 301, remember it okay? She was porn star quality in bed. You are led to the counter in a room further in to make your payment in advance. The hostess also asked if I needed to use the restroom which I did. There is an older woman in here 40s in the restroom that walks up and holds your dick while taking a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]. Kind of funny. Gave her a few random coins and left for number 301 waiting for me. She led me inside to a large hotel room like room, except with a huge jacuzzi and mirrors on the wall and ceiling. Good stuff. She proceeds to take my clothes off and starts to fill the bathtub with water. Asks me to lay down on the bed, she strips down and has a kick ass body. Her boobs are perfect C cups with some cosmetic help. No scars but she says they are water injected. Anyway, she is so nice, makes you feel like a king as she proceeds with a light massage while the bathtub is filling up. She flips me over after massaging my back, and starts playing with my dick. She gets me very excited with all of the mirrors and starts a BBBJ (I was glad I had showered before). She has the whole arsenal of tools with ice and listerine. The room has a TV with some good porn blasting as well. There is a nice digital clock that counts down, and it was at this time I realized I was getting 75 minutes which is what someone else had said as well. We proceeded to the bathtub where she does all sorts of things to me with oil, listerine etc. I almost came when she was giving me a spanish massage (dick between her boobs). Holy cow. After this we went back to the bed and she gave me a great AR. Flipped over for more BBJ. There is no stopping this woman. You do not ever feel stressed or worried she will flip over like a cold fish and let you do the work. This is absolutely awesome. She puts a cock ring on me that vibrates and proceeds to sit on me and let her clit get a vibrating massage. Now, she was horny too! She rode me like crazy, did the reverse cow girl, flipped to missionary, then we did it from behind. All this time, you have the mirrors and the TV. Sensory overload. I decided I have to come in her mouth and she takes off the condom and continues HJ / BBBJ interchangeably. Wow, it is at this time I realize that she is giving me the best BJ I have ever had. She finishes me off in her mouth and continues to suck for another minute. We have 10 minutes left and shower, with a small massage again. I was done, completely drained. Her english is not too bad and we had no problems communicating like what you typically get with the PRC chicks. She walks me out to the elevator and that is it for the night. I am a happy man and knows where I am going tomorrow.

Day 2 at Darling 1 (Saturday). I arrive and have my beer. I see 301 again and she smiles big towards me. My first inclination is to pick her again. She is pointing to her friend but I cannot make out who that is. She asked if I wanted a second girl in the room yesterday (essentially another 1, 000) , and I politely declined. I did ask If I could have done her and her friend without changing condoms which she said yes to. I am not 100% sure that she understood though and I declined. Anyway, I sit there and am overwhelmed again. There are so many options. I kept thinking I had to pick 301 again, but after a lot of agony and feeling bad for the girls not selected, I go for number 87. She is a Thai chick that has a maid outfit on. Number 301 gives me thumbs up and seems happy. Maybe I picked her friend. Number 87 is super nice, even more relaxed than 301. She has a C cup as well, and also enhanced through whatever that water injection thing is. It lasts a year and I had heard of it. The boobs feel really natural and I give her doctor two thumbs up. I am not going to get into all of the details with 87 but it is more or less the same as 301. Her BJ skills are on par with 301 but her FJ is over the top well done. Again, it is porn start quality sex. Wow. Finish in her face / mouth as well. I almost forgot, the large digital clock started at 90 minutes as opposed to 75 minutes yesterday. I asked about it but did not really understand what her answer was. On my way out, I ask her if I can tip her, and she says that is up to me. Not sure if it is common practice and I do not want to inflate any prices but I give her 100. I cannot wait until I am back in Macau sometime soon. I think 87 edges out number 301 by a few points. If you are in Macau in the next week or two, go ahead and check 'them out. Sounded like both of them were on a month visa and will be going back in two weeks.

Two absolutely awesome experiences at Darling 1, I am coming back for more as soon as I can make up a business reason to be there.

Enjoy.

[QUOTE=Thor Loke; 1251059]I went two days in a row to Darling 1 after my first evening at Sanado.

Two absolutely awesome experiences at Darling 1, I am coming back for more as soon as I can make up a business reason to be there.

Enjoy.[/QUOTE]Terrific post, Thor Loke. I visited Darling 1 (my post is under the general Macau comments) and thought, relative to the current offerings in HK / Macau, it is a first-class operation. Being able to take time to ogle the offerings is a big plus, as the 18 scene is too rushed, and the tussle to vie with rude Asian punters can really take the fun out of the process. I am a bit disappointed that I did not really chat with the hostesses during my visit last week. I had bought the Darling package at the Shun Tak ferry terminal. 1688 HKD including the round-trip ferry, so it seems what Darling charges onsite is probably two or three hundred honkies too high, but no matter. Also am unaware that the PRC girls would cost more than Thais and Viets, as I had picked a PRC girl (no PSE for me, but rocking that beautiful girl did the trick nonetheless, as she was suitably into the act) at the same cost. I was told from the package seller in HK that beer was not included (said 70 HKD, overpriced so I sipped the complimentary cola) , so I suppose that helps round down your price.

[QUOTE=Switched; 1250999]Hi Thor Loke, Welcome to the forum.

This has to be about the 3rd or 4th recent post from a repeat visitor talking about how the standards at Sanado have dropped. I have read the last couple of years worth of posts in this forum and Sanado was on top of the saunas to visit list, only now I am not so sure.

Not sure if this is a legacy of the GFC or if there is not enough competition out there (also read that there are only 2 real sauna owners in Macau) , but this is a scary read. I may still visit, but it is not as certain as it once was.[/QUOTE]I would probably go back as it is still a great place. I just have not been to 18, East, or any of the other ones to truly compare. All I know is that the quality of the girls was a bit less than 1 year ago. Everything else was just a good though.

Hi Guys,

Not much of a report more of a question whether my conclusion were right or not.

As of recently 18 is still the top Sauna but with the most expensive cost. Around 1500-1900 HKD per session? (without any thigh massage or such)?

East are close second? However I wanted to know how much it would cost me for a session there?

The one thing that I am quite vague about is how are the sleeping arrangements in East and 18? I know Sanado has a sleeping room, are these rooms free? I read once somewhere here you need to spend at least 1000 to be able to sleep for free?

60 minutes session with a girl is basically the main course right?

Thigh massage, pedicure, foot massage, even the shower help is appetizer and none of the are free? (100-200 HKD each?)

The food and drinks (non-alcoholic) are all free?

I'm sorry for the noob-ish question, its just that I need to leave for HongKong in 2 days, and only has 1 night of free time and I'm thinking of going to Macau since I've never been to macau and have already tried door-to-door action in the HongKong Apartments scene and I am very curious about the Macau Sauna with their overnight service.

[QUOTE=Headcheck; 1252055]Hi Guys,

Not much of a report more of a question whether my conclusion were right or not.

As of recently 18 is still the top Sauna but with the most expensive cost. Around 1500-1900 HKD per session? (without any thigh massage or such)?

East are close second? However I wanted to know how much it would cost me for a session there?

The one thing that I am quite vague about is how are the sleeping arrangements in East and 18? I know Sanado has a sleeping room, are these rooms free? I read once somewhere here you need to spend at least 1000 to be able to sleep for free?

60 minutes session with a girl is basically the main course right?

Thigh massage, pedicure, foot massage, even the shower help is appetizer and none of the are free? (100-200 HKD each?)

The food and drinks (non-alcoholic) are all free?

I'm sorry for the noob-ish question, its just that I need to leave for HongKong in 2 days, and only has 1 night of free time and I'm thinking of going to Macau since I've never been to macau and have already tried door-to-door action in the HongKong Apartments scene and I am very curious about the Macau Sauna with their overnight service.[/QUOTE]To Head Check,

I think the Rio spa is more expensive than sauna 18 now they have some model cost more than 2000 MOP, I not sure about the min charge for sleep over most sauna have sleep area that you can stay for up to 12 hr, I have done sleepy over in Macau sauna before without taking a girl just paid for the min charge about 320 mop included sleepy over and food and use ofthe shower and steam room yes I still think sauna 18 have the best looking girl but East spa girl service is much better, I been going cross the border to Zhu hai China is much cheaper there only 300-400 rmb damn sauna in Macau is so expensive now days go up about 15 % every yr, but Quality in service and sauna is so much better than China.

Fast Eddie 48

I'm in Macau currently for a very large (for me) poker tournament, and I promised myself that if I made it to the second day that I would splurge at a Sauna, and get just about every service offered. I was considering 18 Sauna for awhile, but since there are posts that say the place is going through renovations in their pools area, I figured I'll go someplace I had a good experience last time : Rio Sauna.

I wasn't going there specifically for the girls, but I was going to definitely get that part of the package. I assured myself not to hurry through that process, especially after reading many posts here and on other forums. I had a good experience last time because I chose a girl who seemed to be interested in me also, though not at the "model" level. She was Vietnamese, gave me a near GFE, and I was enamored with memories of her for quite some time.

I walked into the entrance of the spa, was met by an English speaking Indonesia girl, and I explained to her what I would like. Even though she didn't take my order on the spot, she forwarded me to another older Chinese man who spoke very good english, and I removed my clothes and changed into a white towel. I entered the pools section at about 6pm and there were 3 Malay or Indonesian girls inside, one was strikingly beautiful but seemed aloof, and two others. As I walked past, I got a smile and a greeting from the taller of the two Indonesians, and she reached over to me when I responded and pinched my right nipple, LOL. I said OW and laughed and she says in English,"Oh my so handsome" and pinches both of my cheeks. She really had nice tits, and I would've loved to get her into the shower with me but I had no idea how to ask that. I showered, refreshed myself in the pool while overhearing the girls chattering, sometimes about nothing, sometimes about me, LOL and I got a little banter from the shorter of the bunch. Unfortunately all I got was banter out of them, and they didn't seem to want to offer any services to me, so I was completely fine with moving on.

Inside was a buffet line and I get busy chowing down. The food was passable Cantonese fare, certainly not bad, and I was a bit hungry. I was approached about 20 mins after eating by another younger Chinese guy, who spoke to me in English and asked if I wanted to choose a girl. I responded that I wanted my massages first, and then I would see the girls, and he backed off without hesitation. Though shortly after showtime commenced, it was about 7pm, and I can still remember the bells ringing and the procession of girls throughout the eating area. 5 very attractive Chinese girls proceeded through the hall, and the another young, tall Chinese guy told me,"It's showtime, come, come!" So I followed him, since I was finished eating, and we went upstairs and into a large room with lights and interesting decorations, stripper poles and whatnot. I was the only foreigner in the room though there were less than 10 of us in total.

When the girls entered, I paid attention to who kept eye contact with me, as I was standing at the far table. I counted 8 in my head who kept eye contact for longer than 2 seconds as they entered and made notes of their faces in my head. I'm really good at remembering faces, and I'm lucky for this because it was LITERALLY wall to wall girls at the end of their procession. I think 50 would be at the low end, but honestly I had no idea. So I'm sitting there absolutely floored because some of these girls are spectacularly hot. I chatter with the Chinese guy about numbers and heart / star differences in price, and numbers telling you where the girls are from. I look back around and attempt to draw eye contact from the girls I listed, and in fact more than that held eye contact for a longer period of time. Probably about 10-12, especially the Thai girls, who were smiling quite devilishly at me. One of the notable Chinese girls looked almost identical to a Taiwanese teacher I worked with for some time, just with much larger breasts (which she was happily jiggling while standing, LOL.) There was one caucasian who met my eyes, but had no smile for me. I spun around 10 times making sure to note numbers, and then I saw her.

I had noted her as she passed because she gave me a nice demure smile and held eye contact when walking by. She was standing on the wall across from me, fairly close, and every time I returned her to looking at her, she kept eye contact, and was giving me the googly eyes. Her number was #223, and I really hesitated choosing her, not because of price, but because I knew that girls who were that mega-hot, and gentlemen, this girl was RIDICULOUSLY hot, could be mechanical cold fish in bed. I looked for another girl who was close to her hotness level, there were none. The Thai girls were really giving me the devil smiles, and I knew they would be incredible fun, but I told myself I was going to splurge on this session, and after #223 gave me the googly eyes for about 10 seconds straight it was clear to me, this was the one.

Currently there is a fashion trend in Japan called gyaru, where the girls have lighter / bleached / blonde hair, dark tanned skin, great face makeup, and the eye contacts which expand the eye size and make the eye much shinier. Couple that with a great hairstyle, excellent fake lashes, and here she was, my own Chinese gyaru. This fashion is a terrible fetish of mine, I absolutely love girls who are dressed in this manner, and here she was, my own model level gyaru, my own Chinese Mana Izumi. I turned to the Chinese guy and said,"Ok, that makes it simple for me. I want #223." He repeats the price, I say whatever, and out we go.

He upsells me on the condom / cockring / milkbath, which is completely fine by me, and a few moments later she arrives. I ask her name in Chinese, and she's a little startled that I can speak some Chinese, her name is Yaya. She prepares the bath invites me to lay down, and gives me the best body / tit rub, while keeping some eye contact and the fake breathing / moaning (which I adore.) Goes through the milk bath, and she's not a mechanical cold fish at all, and she is performing like a JAV star, and I'm reveling in the experience. She then does something that I haven't had done to me while sucking on my nipples, she keeps the suction up along the sides of my torso, ticklish and arousing at the same time. Eye contact nearly the whole time and I emphasize that I think she's doing great and that I'm quite pleased. She then demurely looks at me and gives me one of the best BBBJ of my entire life.

I had to teach my ex-wife how to give good head. I usually have to teach most girls how to do it "right." In fact, its only my ex that could give me good enough head (mostly because of the love factor etc) to get and keep me hard. This girl did it RIGHT. No prompting, touching, just knew what to do, and how to make it work. Great deepthroating action, amazing suction, constant eye contact throughout, top tier JAV level blowjob and I was floored. Whoever taught her, thank you very much.

She had three tattoos, one on the small of her back, and two on her right hand. I admired her delicate body, long legs, smooth skin, this girl literally was out of my best fantasies. She was playful and we hadn't even gotten into bed yet, just the bath still. She kept it up and I didn't interrupt her for the next 10 mins or so, and then she invited me out of the bath, we washed up a little and off to the bed.

As I described before, she gave a fantastic blowjob, truely top notch performance. Changed positions, deep throat, eye contact, the whole works. Her body was mine to play with while she was performing, her ridiculously small waist and very tight pussy caused me a little concern, but only a little. She continued the BBBJ for another 5-10 minutes before reaching over, grabbing the condom and saying "ok?" She put the thing on, lowered herself on to me, and I just laid there while we shared a lovely cowgirl session.

To be fair, there wasn't much hip action in the cowgirl, and the impossible hotness was created from the fact that she kept eye contact nearly the entire time. A bit of JAV moaning and breathing (not screaming) was present, but it was quite enjoyable. An incredible sight to behold, for sure, and I got her perched on top of me, slamming into me, one of my favorite things to watch. After a bit we changed to lotus and she was quite active in that as well. In fact, it seemed that she preferred that position over cowgirl, and I was happy also. Great action and movement from her, and always the eye contact. She seemed to realize that this point that eye contact was very important for me for arousal, and kept it up. Clearly a 1st class pleaser.

We did a bit of missionary, changing her leg positions, and such, and now I started having fun playing with her body. She was my star to abuse here, and just like my fantasies, I fulfilled what I could. Everything except kissing, which was clear was a big no-no. I didn't have to ask, and at one point after a great doggie session, watching her watching me in the mirror with those beautiful brown eyes of hers, I tenderly ground into her in mish, with her arms and legs around me, and complete eye contact. I leaned slightly forward for a kiss, just to see if it was available, and her averted gaze and slight head movement made it clear that it was not. Normally I'm not interested in having sex if there is no kissing, but she was just so fucking hot, that it was an afterthought which would've made this 120% satisfaction. As it stood, she still was beyond comparison, and there was no detraction from the lack of kissing. I ground her in intimate missionary with complete eye contact for a good 10ish minutes and she gave me a great performance of a probably fake orgasm together with complete eye contact at the end. She held me and I held her for the next few minutes, while she traced on my arms and back with her longish fingernails, I'm completely sensitive and she seems to enjoy giving me this type of pleasure.

Afterwards we shower a bit, and she actually speaks a little English! We have a bit of a conversation, I get her phone number for later play, we talk about Guangzhou and how much she doesn't like Macau, LOL. When we come out of the shower area, she laughs and points at the bed, which is nearly 1 meter moved from the wall, LOL. That's what I call good exercise! Friendly girl, complete satisfaction and at the end leads me out with a smile on my face. Was it worth it? Fuck yes, and if I make day 3 in the tournament, I'll do it again, maybe even twice.

I get a decent foot massage afterwards from an older Chinese woman who thinks that my partial Mandarin is very cute. The Chinese ladies chatter about me and as she finishes with my feet, a Vietnam lady comes over and gives me a head massage. She attempts to upsell me on 25mins a side, but I'm not interested. She smells REALLY good, and older Vietnamese girls are fantastic lovers, so I get her phone number. While getting my head / shoulder massage, I meet an Indonesian girl who gives the thigh massage, named Betty.

Betty is superfriendly, makes me pinky promise that I'll choose her for the thigh massage, which I was going to do anyways. I already knew that I wanted this girls number even before I took the massage, and the thigh massage was out of this world. She was friendly and sexy all at the same time, I took a second session, and she gave me a HJ to completion. I told her while in the first session that I wanted a full body massage, but it was too expensive at the Rio, and she said she would come to my hotel room and give me one. I handed her my phone and she entered her digits and called her own phone to make sure. We agreed on an interesting bargain. 500 for her to show up. 250 for each successful pop. I've used this with great success for other girls, and this one was no different, she bit the bait immediately, and we'll be bonking tonight I'm sure.

In the end, the price ended up $3586. Sauna Entry, Model Level girl with associated upsells, Foot Massage x2, Head Massage, Shoulder Massage, Thigh Massage x 2. I left with a huge smile on my face around midnight, completely satisfied, refreshed, and ready to take on Day 2.

Rio is expensive, I knew that going in. I am 100% satisfied with my results. I banged one of the hottest girls of my life who was a fantasy made reality, had a relaxing experience, and have plenty left over for p4p. Refreshed myself for one of the most stressful experiences of my life. Talking about life changing money here. What an amazing trip!

Hey FastEddie, many thanks for the response.

Well I will be staying 2 weeks in GuangZhou when Canton Fair rolls around and I kept reading and hearing about the Saunas in Macau and wanted to try it. However sadly I don't think I can do it since I am suddenly swamped with a lot of things in HK.

I don't think I would be able to go to Zhu Hai, but I think I can cover some Mainland Spa in GuangZhou in a couple of months.

I was in Macau for the first time last week and had the pleasure of going to 3 Saunas listed above. Here is my 2 bits:

Cost: D-$1150HKD; 18- $1600HKD; Emp-$2000HKD.

As for Service D (Darling 2) was the best; very similar experience to Thor Lok below but at 50% the cost. Eighteen was second and Emporor's last.

As far as Facilities: Emperor was by far the most glitzy with a huge Hot Tub, and Dry and Wet Saunas. Eighteen was next and Darling had virtually just a fishbowl and the room.

As for Selection: It was a toss up between Eighteen and Darling 2 being the best.

All in all it was a nice relaxing experience but of course not the GF or Porn experience; Was in Rio where they have a similar setup with their Suanas, however in Rio we are able to mingle, make out and play with the merchandise before we buy. If there is a Suana I could do this at in Macau I would like to kmow as I hope to be back again next year. I know I walked by a few Suanas and couldn't try them all. I'm sure they change from month to month and depending on everyones taste, some may prefer one to another. Its good to hear everyones opinion!

[QUOTE=Switched; 1250999]Hi Thor Loke, Welcome to the forum.

This has to be about the 3rd or 4th recent post from a repeat visitor talking about how the standards at Sanado have dropped. I have read the last couple of years worth of posts in this forum and Sanado was on top of the saunas to visit list, only now I am not so sure.

Not sure if this is a legacy of the GFC or if there is not enough competition out there (also read that there are only 2 real sauna owners in Macau) , but this is a scary read. I may still visit, but it is not as certain as it once was.[/QUOTE]Was at Sanado last night. After 1 year things have changed. Shower girl only gave 6 cock sucks instead of 12. Plastic balls gone from pool. (who cares) first parade and show at 7pm. Girls dressed in black see thru dress. Parade had a restart as on the first attempt they were wearing underwear. Pit boss not happy so a restart was ordered without panties. Love the view of the filly making opposite chairman happy. Usual ear sucking, tit feel etc. Rotating thru the punters. To me the girls on this visit did not give me good vibes as in the past. Seemed more distant. The ear licking, thigh massage and shoulder massage girls were more pushy but in a pleasant way. I had a great thigh and shoulder massage from a tall Vietnamese girl #158. I was asked during the afternoon if I was ready to pick my girl. I was waiting for the show and as at 5. 30 there was no show and I had seen all the girls on offer I asked for any girl who spoke some English. As it happens there was one but she had only just arrived and was putting on the war paint. After 30 mins she enters the arena and I am told she is a model (taller) add $150. Body to die for face, well, it was a face. Room service from her was ok, I let her pick from the ABC list and her performance met expectations. Name YangYang from Harbin. Tattoo across her shoulders.

To conclude. Sanado does not have a big stable of girls a la 18. My instinct tells me it has shrunk. Last night maybe a total of 15 at around 8pm when I left. Physical quality was good, all slim, trim and totally interchangeable. Attitude to me was distant. (Like they were thinking about joining another sauna next visit.) to me Sanado may be on the desendancy with its best days behind it. I will refer to this board for my next Macau sauna experience. Meanwhile, it's off to Taiwan sigh.

[QUOTE=Kiwistickman; 1253164]Was at Sanado last night. After 1 year things have changed. Shower girl only gave 6 cock sucks instead of 12. Plastic balls gone from pool. (who cares) first parade and show at 7pm. Girls dressed in black see thru dress. Parade had a restart as on the first attempt they were wearing underwear. Pit boss not happy so a restart was ordered without panties. Love the view of the filly making opposite chairman happy. Usual ear sucking, tit feel etc. Rotating thru the punters. To me the girls on this visit did not give me good vibes as in the past. Seemed more distant. The ear licking, thigh massage and shoulder massage girls were more pushy but in a pleasant way. I had a great thigh and shoulder massage from a tall Vietnamese girl #158. I was asked during the afternoon if I was ready to pick my girl. I was waiting for the show and as at 5. 30 there was no show and I had seen all the girls on offer I asked for any girl who spoke some English. As it happens there was one but she had only just arrived and was putting on the war paint. After 30 mins she enters the arena and I am told she is a model (taller) add $150. Body to die for face, well, it was a face. Room service from her was ok, I let her pick from the ABC list and her performance met expectations. Name YangYang from Harbin. Tattoo across her shoulders.

To conclude. Sanado does not have a big stable of girls a la 18. My instinct tells me it has shrunk. Last night maybe a total of 15 at around 8pm when I left. Physical quality was good, all slim, trim and totally interchangeable. Attitude to me was distant. (Like they were thinking about joining another sauna next visit.) to me Sanado may be on the desendancy with its best days behind it. I will refer to this board for my next Macau sauna experience. Meanwhile, it's off to Taiwan sigh.[/QUOTE]Yep, this is consistent with my experience also. Forgot to mention one funny thing that happened at Sanado during the second show where they put out a cup of mouth rinse next to each guest before the show. This cup is for the girl and the BBBJ given during the show, but one of the Japanese customers though he was just served a drink. It probably did not taste too good and I could not stop laughing. The pit boss yelled out stop in Chinese (I assume) and restarted the show so they could replace his "drink". LOL. Have fun in Taiwan, not too much to do there except Caesar Sauna or maybe out-calls.

My last visit to 18 was late last year and the renovations were in full swing with Showtime being held in the lounge area. What is the latest on this as no one has mentioned it. There is something special about sitting naked in nice hot pool while watching 50 to 100 beautiful women parade around you.

I was at Sauna 18 last Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.

The renovations are progressing. The pool in front is now open again. The construction on the steam and hot sauna are still under construction and should be completed in the next several months.

The lineup was held in the pool area. They still have the best selection of girls in Macau.

I picked a new arrival Vietnamese girl. She had a great since of humor and was a blast in the room. She earned a spot as an ATF. I repeated several times during my stay. $1788 HKD.

Another bad sauna experience for me. My mistake, I picked Aziz, a tall Uzbeck #913 who was going at a premium. She was a complete starfish, after a 90 second uninspired BJ she did not do anything at all besides laying down and looking bored. I could not finish and any desire to f* her was completely gone by that point. She is very young and pretty and does not seem to care at all about her surroundings, including the guy on top of her. I cut the session short after she layed down staring at me for a while and would not move or take any position when I asked her to. Avoid at all cost, I tried going to talk to a manager, could not find anyone speaking English, left the place and went to D2. Note to self: I really prefer Sauna 18.

I know the Boss Sauna, near the Lisboa. Been there quite a few times. I typically do the scrub and

Shanghai massage. The leg and tendon massage is typically not bad too. Not to mention the odd unofficial take out.

There are reports of a place called Big Boss? Can someone indicate where. Or even what it is?

Thanks.

TL

[QUOTE=Mahal;1268932]Another bad sauna experience for me. My mistake, I picked Aziz, a tall Uzbeck #913 who was going at a premium. She was a complete starfish, after a 90 second uninspired BJ she did not do anything at all besides laying down and looking bored. I could not finish and any desire to f* her was completely gone by that point. She is very young and pretty and does not seem to care at all about her surroundings, including the guy on top of her. I cut the session short after she layed down staring at me for a while and would not move or take any position when I asked her to. Avoid at all cost, I tried going to talk to a manager, could not find anyone speaking English, left the place and went to D2. Note to self: I really prefer Sauna 18.[/QUOTE]I never pick the over priced Russian girls. I always get the Managers Special Viet girl for $700 MOP. I have never had a bad one and 5-6 always came to the hotel after their shift for more fucking and sucking. I give them another 500MOP for LT and if I really like them, every morning I'm in Macau. Its worked everytime and I'm not changing the formula. Last time was Xiao Mai which was a little fieball in bed and great natural 35Ds tits.

I however cannot ever get to the Natty Bumpo level of Macau mongering. Natty, I'm in MAcau on 5-9, want to give me some lessons then?

PC out

PC,

Those Uzbek girls in Nobre would have to pay me before I would shag them. The bottom line is they are not attractive. But, there must be an Asian demand for them or they would not be there. The Caucasian pole dancers at the Grand Lisboa, on the other hand, are very attractive, but those girls are probably unavailable for less than $500 to $1000 US. Just guessing, but I would not be surprised. If you ask me, Mahal got on the wrong plane, if he wanted beautiful white girls. He should have gone to Moscow, Kiev, Prague, the FKK Clubs in Germany, or Sao Paulo, Brazil.

Like you, I have never been disappointed in Nobre. That is why it is now my favorite sauna in Macau. Every girl I have ever had there has been very enthusiastic sexually. A lot of the sauna girls (especially the thigh massage girls) will meet you later after their shift ends or in the afternoon before they go to work. I have taken out girls from Rio, East and Nobre, but let's keep that, a little secret between ourselves.

This last trip to Macau at Nobre: I had Phuong #717, a busty Viet; Riny, my Indonesian sex pot / oral thigh massage girl; and Sa Sa, #922, the Singapore princess super model. Sa Sa was my #1 shag out of the 27 girls I had on my entire 2012 South East Asia trip. She was Singaporean, ½ Chinese & ½ Thai – but she looked ethnically Chinese. She stood around 5'6', had a slender build, sported natural 'B' cups and was simply beautiful. I had Sa Sa back to back, two nights in a row. She was that good and really enthusiastic. What a lover!

At East Spa, there were two other outstanding girls I had the pleasure to shag: Chow Chen # 9138? A Chinese regular girl with a most beautiful full lipped pussy; and Xiao Han #81, a Chinese super model who was ravishingly beautiful. Both girls gave me a real good time. But I had one bad experience at East Spa with Fair #23, a pretty Chinese girl. She gave me the full routine – plan B, but the shag was nothing special. I was inside her for about 3-5 minutes when I realized that we just did not have any chemistry together. It was my only let down in Macau. In hindsight, I might have seen it coming and possibly I could have changed girls. Oh well. Afterwards, because I was feeling unsatisfied, I went for a double session with Ella a delightful Indonesian thigh massage girl who gave me a happy ending at the end of the 2nd session. So I left East Spa that night, satisfied despite a lackluster session with Fair.

I always thought Bangkok was the center of the monger Universe, but lately I have been thinking Macau is right up there at the top too. The quality is better than BKK, I think and the Macau girls really put out. But all that quality and service is expensive. BKK is still great. There is much more variety and a lot more to do in BKK than in Macau. Right now, I would say BKK and Macau are my top two destinations in Asia. Nowhere else is quite as good. I wish I was in Macau right now, but I have to make some money and replenish my bank account. I will be returning in October earlier than usual, so I don't have too long to wait. I hope Sa Sa and Riny are still around. I chatted with Riny yesterday. She says she is moving to HKG. Look out. She will do well there as a FL. If you are planning to be around in October, drop me a pm.

[QUOTE=Travel Lucid; 1269063]I know the Boss Sauna, near the Lisboa. Been there quite a few times. I typically do the scrub and

Shanghai massage. The leg and tendon massage is typically not bad too. Not to mention the odd unofficial take out.

There are reports of a place called Big Boss? Can someone indicate where. Or even what it is?

Thanks.

TL[/QUOTE]Same street, but on the other side of the road. Only about 100 meters away from each other.

Boss sauna is the one in the 22th floor. The other one is in a building acroos the street further south.

Just another sauna. One of the bigger ones.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1269658]PC,

Those Uzbek girls in Nobre would have to pay me before I would shag them. The bottom line is they are not attractive. But, there must be an Asian demand for them or they would not be there. The Caucasian pole dancers at the Grand Lisboa, on the other hand, are very attractive, but those girls are probably unavailable for less than $500 to $1000 US. Just guessing, but I would not be surprised. If you ask me, Mahal got on the wrong plane, if he wanted beautiful white girls. He should have gone to Moscow, Kiev, Prague, the FKK Clubs in Germany, or Sao Paulo, Brazil.

Like you, I have never been disappointed in Nobre. That is why it is now my favorite sauna in Macau. Every girl I have ever had there has been very enthusiastic sexually. A lot of the sauna girls (especially the thigh massage girls) will meet you later after their shift ends or in the afternoon before they go to work. I have taken out girls from Rio, East and Nobre, but let's keep that, a little secret between ourselves.

This last trip to Macau at Nobre: I had Phuong #717, a busty Viet; Riny, my Indonesian sex pot / oral thigh massage girl; and Sa Sa, #922, the Singapore princess super model. Sa Sa was my #1 shag out of the 27 girls I had on my entire 2012 South East Asia trip. She was Singaporean, ½ Chinese & ½ Thai – but she looked ethnically Chinese. She stood around 5'6', had a slender build, sported natural 'B' cups and was simply beautiful. I had Sa Sa back to back, two nights in a row. She was that good and really enthusiastic. What a lover!

At East Spa, there were two other outstanding girls I had the pleasure to shag: Chow Chen # 9138? A Chinese regular girl with a most beautiful full lipped pussy; and Xiao Han #81, a Chinese super model who was ravishingly beautiful. Both girls gave me a real good time. But I had one bad experience at East Spa with Fair #23, a pretty Chinese girl. She gave me the full routine – plan B, but the shag was nothing special. I was inside her for about 3-5 minutes when I realized that we just did not have any chemistry together. It was my only let down in Macau. In hindsight, I might have seen it coming and possibly I could have changed girls. Oh well. Afterwards, because I was feeling unsatisfied, I went for a double session with Ella a delightful Indonesian thigh massage girl who gave me a happy ending at the end of the 2nd session. So I left East Spa that night, satisfied despite a lackluster session with Fair.

I always thought Bangkok was the center of the monger Universe, but lately I have been thinking Macau is right up there at the top too. The quality is better than BKK, I think and the Macau girls really put out. But all that quality and service is expensive. BKK is still great. There is much more variety and a lot more to do in BKK than in Macau. Right now, I would say BKK and Macau are my top two destinations in Asia. Nowhere else is quite as good. I wish I was in Macau right now, but I have to make some money and replenish my bank account. I will be returning in October earlier than usual, so I don't have too long to wait. I hope Sa Sa and Riny are still around. I chatted with Riny yesterday. She says she is moving to HKG. Look out. She will do well there as a FL. If you are planning to be around in October, drop me a pm.[/QUOTE]Brother Natty,

100% agree on the Russian girls, just not worth it. I can get that at the racetrack if my luck is running good. Haha.

I may take an October trip but May is when I will at Emperor Hotel for a few days. I may have to look up the thigh girls and Sasa too!

PC out