Panama City

The guy who operates the service is a real jerk.
1. The girls in the photos are never available, and
2. He comes with the girls, and waits for them. Real creepy.
I would not use him.

Can you any of you local guys provide an update on Cocos. I had heard that it was closing. Or that it was being converted to another kind of bar and that they were doing everything possible to keep working girls out.

Thanks

Spent the weekend of 6-7-8 April in PTY. It was a blast. I took my 69 year old uncle and we went nuts. Stayed at he Marriot downtown. This is a great place as it has Habanos cafe across the street. Full of Colombians. A nice assortment and they do not hang out for long. The groups usually stop by for 20-30 minutes and then they are replaced by the next group coming from the casinos. I spoke with the girls about the casinos. They informed me that there is a huge crackdown on the girls working there. I believe it is because there is so many that it causes a distraction for the casino. Great for us too bad for the casinos. Went to Elite and Le palace. I prefer elite for number of girls. However, Le palace has the best talent. Pura Colombianas.

List and ratings are my opinion, remember I was traveling with an older gentlemen so dark places we low on my rating scale.

Miami- Dark like a dungeon, dive for my tastes.

Royal Elegant- Small loud, has potential. Most girls were dark skinned from DR or Panama. $2 beers make it a nice place to have a couple and change the place if you like chocolate.

Habanos- I like this place very much. Convenient for the Marriot. Hot Colombians. $80-100 per hour. However, all stayed with us for more time. We would drink 3-4 beers with them and check out the personalities then make the decision. Uncle banged 4 in 3 days from this place.

Elite- US style strip club. Girls can leave after you buy them 10, $15 drinks. I was a sucker one night and we took some girls from here. They we hot as hell but pricey as hell also. 150 drinks 200 for girls. Stayed with us all night and did us again in the morning. Full service with great attitudes. Best service in a long time for us.

La Bogedita- Full of Colombians looks and feels like a disco. Solid if you want to feel like your hooking up.

Bolero- same as above.

Sahara/Saora- Not sure but every girl talked of going here after the clients were gone for the evening.

Via Uruguay- ave is where some serious action can be found.

Great time to be had. There are some hot Colombians traveling the circuit in CR and PTY as cute as I have seen in Colombia. It is nice to see so much talent out of one place. Peace out gentlemen

Hi,
Some call girls numbers extracted from today’s newspaper.

Details need to be worked out when you call, Spanish required.
In my experience the price ranges from US$ 60 to US$ 100 per hour and most are colombianas.

Delvis, +50764775958
Juliana, +50766533106
Karina, +50766619670
Laura, +50766750822
Sandra, +50766374761
Sara, +50766504629
Wsg-pty02 +50766593847
Wsg-pty03 +50766638439
Wsg-pty04 +50766694671
Wsg-pty05 +50766653857
Wsg-pty07 +50765122451
Wsg-pty08 +50766581509
Wsg-pty09 +50766666230
Wsg-pty10 +50765389765

Saludos.
LatinBull.

Flyjets,

Thanks for the great roundup of places. I'll be in PTY in May and will be sure to visit some of the places you recommend. Reports will follow.

Traveler

[QUOTE=GauntMan]from what Ive hear from some members experience, its a bait and switch, but who know, maybe they have just got bad luck. My suggestion is just keep the references in mind and give it a try and give us the feedback, because at the moment I think its been just rumors with no real facts(I might be wrong!)

Originally Posted by Pokergr
Do u know something about [url]http://www.elcomplaciente.com/ZAFIRO.html[/url] ?
[/QUOTE]It's a bait/switch operation. Plus they demand payment even if you refuse the girl. The girl they sent me was totally nasty. They then told me that they would call the policia if I didn't pay.

WTF, nice business policy.

Beware! For sure.

Does anyone feel that $100 an hour in Central America sounds a bit pricey? I have been enjoying the company of an English speaking girl in Managua this week, comes over 6 p.m. to 8 or 9 a.m. the next day, and receives C$500, or US$28, which I reckon is $2 an hour including sleeping time I admit.

The English part isn't even required but it makes it more interesting.

Ahhhhh, yeah.....$100 is a huge amount.
$28 for the night wins hands-down.

This will be my first and only report from Panama, and I'm afraid it won't be all that informative. I have just completed a 30 day, 7 country mongering tour of Central America. My original intent was to monger in all 7 CA countries--Belize, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, and Panama, in that order--and to post reports on my experiences in all 7 countries. This I have succeeded in doing. If you'll look at the 6 other countries, you'll find my recent reports there. However, I'm afraid that Panama will be getting short shrift, largely because I just didn't budget enough time for this country. I wanted to take a boat ride on the canal, which took all of one day, after which I was too tired and sunburned to monger, and a city tour took most of another. So I had only one night for mongering, and since I had to get up at 5am to get to the airport, I had to make a short night of it.

I was enthralled by a picture Regulr Travlr posted of a girl named Marisel from Laura's Massage, and I determined to do her when I got to Panama. Unfortunately this didn't work out. I called Laura's and got a voice mail and a message to call back. I then called about 6 different services and places and got the same thing. This happened to me in Honduras as well. I can't fathom why places like this don't answer the phone. Who the hell wants a callback from an escort service or massage parlor? Anyway, I finally reached a place called River Club. They wouldn't send a girl to the El Panama, where I was staying, saying it was 'complicado.' So, I took a taxi over there. This was just before 8pm. The River Club is a brothel that had about 8 girls, maybe 2 of whom were attractive. I picked the most attractive one, a 22 year old whose name I've forgotten. The price, set by the house, was $80 cash and $85 with credit card. Because I was tired I didn't negotiate for the specific sexual services I wanted. I just assumed that, because I had gotten excellent sexual services in nearly every encounter I have had, this would happen here as well. Big mistake! I'll never do that again. She refused to kiss, would give a BJ only with raincoat. She did let me DATY and gave pretty good CFS; pretty skilled at grinding her pelvis deeply into mine for maximum penetration. But overall a disappointing experience.

A word about El Panama. It is an excellent hotel, 5-star I would say, but it doesn't appear to be girl friendly. There was a security guard with a blazer in the lobby watching everyone who came in and who got on the elevator. Moreover, you need to use your room key to operate the elevator, so there's no chance of a girl going directly to your room. However, there is a way around this, which is to book a poolside room. You can walk directly to the rooms without using the elevator. If you come in with a chica and the security guy stops you, just say you are going to dinner, because all the restaurants are on the way to the pool. Then just walk right past the restaurants and go directly to the room. Piece of cake.

I had planned to post comparative ratings of all 7 countries, and I will still do this. However, I don't think I can rate Panama fairly since I didn't give it the time it needed. Totally my fault. If you are reading this, be advised that, if you are coming to Panama for the first time and want to see the canal and also monger, give it at least 4 or 5 days. BTW, I think Panama City is the only real city in CA, in the US or European sense, which is another reason it deserves more time.

Lorenzo

Proposed Panama/CR Trip - May 25th- June 10th, 2006:

I am an old Gringo monger, (100% Straight - no lite loafers here) nearing retirement age (61 years) am considering moving to Costa Rica. I've been to Costa Rica several times in the last 2 years. I have not yet been to Panama.

Before making a final decision on moving to Costa Rica. I thought I would like to check out Panama also to make sure that it might not be a better all round place me to live than moving to Costa Rica.

I have a small business plan to import several small new motorscooters in a container leaving (later) from the port in either Long Beach, or San Diego.

I would like to set up a small scooter rental business in either Costa Rica or Panama. Later after moving.

And I have been thinking this would be good in Jaco Beach CR. But am not sure of having to pay taxes on these scooters bringing them into the country of CR. It might work better to get them to Panama, and do the same thing there.

I plan on flying to Panama City from Tulsa (I'm living now in Missouri) the last of May to get in on the start of the 'Green or Rainy Season'. Probabaly will leave the States around May 25th. I am kind of frugal. And like to get in on the "rainy season" discounts at hotels and such.

(For example) - did you know that you can stay at a very nice hotel right next to the Beatle Bar in Jaco Beach Costa Rica in the "green season" for less than half the price they get in the 'high season'. It's the Los Four Grandes Hotel, about 40 yards North of the famous Beatle Bar. In the Low season you can get a deluxe large room with kingsized bed, big color cable TV. Couch, coffee table, chest-of-drawers, remote control air-conditioning, private bath w/hot water shower, and there is also another room connected with a double bed, and another small room with a large sink for washing clothes too. Last time I was there (Nov. 2005) it was $ 25. 00 per night.))))).

I will plan on staying in Panama and check out things there for perhaps 4-5 days and then move on to Costa Rica. My tenitive plan is to stay in Panama City a couple of days, and then to take a bus from Panama City up the West Coast to the city of David, stopping and staying along the way for a day or so to break up the long bus ride. ((I hear it is about a 14-15 hour bus ride from Panama City to San Jose.))

If that is not feasable, then I will just fly into Panama City. Do that and then fly out to San Jose CR for the CR part of my trip. Then once back in Costa Rica (((where I am not a newbie & and I know the drill)))I plan on spending perhaps another 7-10 days in CR. I have made about 5 trips to Costa Rica, and been to both coasts. I prefer the Pacific side. And I probably will end up moving to Jaco Beach later. But just in case I should find out that things are better in Panama. Then I want to at least have check out both (Panama & Costa Rica) before making a move.

I have a good buddy who is living and working now in San Jose. He is a dental technician and has been there for 1 1/2 years. He has a local Tica for a live-in girlfriend, a nice 2 bedroom apartment in a good section of San Jose for $250. 00 a month, and is reportedly enjoying living in San Jose very much.

He was my Wingman on the very first trip to CR - 2 years ago. But he is now busy working 5-6 days a week, and can't get away for long.

I know how to get around in Costa Rica pretty well. I've been to many of the 'good spots', and don't mind going it alone in Costa Rica. But would like to get some help with where to go and what to do while in Panama.

If interested, or if you have any tips or thoughts for me - then please respond here on this forum. Thanks, Stevewxly

This will be a summary of my recent month long mongering trip through all 7 Central American countries. I plan to post this report on the forums of all of these countries: Belize, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, and Panama. As some of you know, I have alraedy posted several reports for each of the individual countries, some lengthy, some sketchy because there wasn't much to report. The responses to my reports were overwhelmingly positive, and I want to thank all the guys right now who posted positive responses on the threads and who sent me PMs. I got at least 10 PMs, all of them supportive, and I am grateful for these. A small number of negative responses were posted, all of them on the Honduras and Nicaragua forums. This was probably because I was less than enthusiastic about these countries, and some mongers apparently felt that I had insulted their favorite haunts. Now I am not an especially thin-skinned guy and can take my lumps, but I thought these few responses were surprisingly vicious. The posters seemed to feel the need to attack me personally. They seem to have no conception of the fact that reasonable people can have differing opinions on the same subject and still be civil to each other. I made it quite clear in each of my posts that it was my first time in CA and that I was taking this mongering trip largely out of curiosity to see how the mongering situation was in some countries I had never been to before. I made it clear, and want to make it clear now, that my reports are not intended for the veteran CA monger but for those, like myself, who are veteran mongers but who are new to this area, or at least some of the countries, and to this extent they may be helpful to some. If that isn't the case, well you can always ignore it and move on. But the negative posters just couldn't grasp this. They couldn't grasp why someone who is in a city for the first time might prefer to pay $55 to an escort service to have a chica come directly to his room for some excellent sex, rather than attempt to guide a brain dead taxi driver through the slums of Managua to find a hole in the wall massage parlor where he can get laid for $10. They seem to be unable to grasp that my time and my convenience are worth money too. These doofuses seem to exemplify Oscar Wilde's definition of a cynic as someone who knows the price of everything but the value of nothing. But I guess some people will always be terminally stupid.

Anyway, on to mongering. First I want to make a few observations about visiting CA, based on my trips through these 7 countries, that some might find helpful:

1) With the exception of Costa Rica, the taxi drivers in CA seem NEVER to have change--NEVER. So you will be well advised, early in your stay in a country, to stock up on the country's smallest paper currency unit.
2) The taxi drivers in Guatemala City and Managua are the dumbest in the world--and I've been all over the world. In GC, always have the address written down. In Managua you can't even do this, because there aren't any addresses! By contrast, the San Jose taxi drivers seem smart and helpful.
3) Even top of the line hotels may not have all the amenities you might expect. For example, I didn't once see an English langauage newspaper in the 6 Spanish speaking countries; I guess they've never heard of the International Herald Tribune. This is surprising, because it can be found all over South America. What is even more surprising is that it is often hard to find newspapers even in Spanish; the Holiday Inn in Guatemala City had no newspapers at all. Similarly, if you need toothpaste or deodorant, don't expect your hotel to have it; you'll probably have to go to a tienda.
4) You will need to have some knowledge of Spanish--period. This is especially true in El Salvador, Honduras, and Nicaragua.
5) I found Central Americans to be exceptionally warm, friendly, and helpful during my trip. I even had the manager of a Guatemala City restaurant drive me back to my hotel when I couldn't find a taxi. I didn't meet a single nasty person. But read on.
6) In all of these countries, watch your back. Your physical safety comes first. If you don't know an area, don't assume it's safe. Take a taxi from door to door, even for short distances. Take only official taxis, and except in Managua, don't get in a taxi if another passenger is in it. (In Managua, taxis are routinely shared.)

Now on to my comparative country ratings. In evaluating the countries comparatively, I took the following factors into consideration: the ease of getting pussy; the quality of the girls, i.e., physical attractiveness, without considering their expertise; the quality of the sexual experience, which means the sexual skills of the girls, physical attractiveness aside; and price. For the record, I had sex in all 7 countries, 11 girls, 14 encounters (3 of them repeats, obviously). I'll make comments on each of these factors for each country, and then I'll give each country a rating from 1 through 10. What am I using as my paradigms? Well, I'm a veteran Rio de Janeiro monger, and to me Rio is the pussy capital of the world, so Rio would get a 10: easily available sex, beautiful girls who are highly skilled sexually, and reasonable prices (although Rio has gotten more expensive lately). Bangkok would get a 9.75, only because Thai girls are not always good kissers. As for a 1, I've never experienced a 1, but it would be something like what I imagine a conservative Moslem country to be: a place where getting laid is difficult or impossible, and might even be dangerous. So those are the parameters, and herewith the individual country summaries.

BELIZE: There is only one reliable place to get laid in Belize, which is Raul's Rose Garden near the Belize City airport. An hour with a bored chica or Belizean girl resulting in lackluster sex will cost about US$75. A few posters say they have gotten connections to girls from taxi drivers, but I had no luck with this. OVERALL RATING: 2.

GUATEMALA: Guatemala City has the highest concentration of quality chicas in all of CA, approaching but not equaling the termas in Rio. They are also very skilled sexually and I had them do everything I asked. However, it is also the most expensive. In the two best clubs, the rates are US$78 for 1/2 hour and US$156 for an hour, fixed by the club, not negotiable. There are cheaper places, but the quality of girls is nowhere near as high. Avoid the Club Elite; it's a ripoff for people on expense accounts and gullible tourists. OVERALL RATING: 8

EL SALVADOR: This country is CA's hidden gem. Pussy is readily available, All the girls I was with are quite skilled sexually, and DFK/BBBJ/DATY/CFS seem to be the norm. CIM was no problem. And it's incredibly cheap! There is a slight variation in the prices at the clubs, but the average is about US$25 for 1/2 hour and US$40 for an hour. So what's the drawback? Simple: the quality of the girls is not high. There are some attractive honeys available if you look, but the majority of the girls in the houses are skanks, and some are outright pigs. But as I said, the good ones are there if you look--really look. On the San Salvador thread, Cpteasy's posts are quite informative. OVERALL RATING: 8.5

HONDURAS: A wretched country; if Honduras has any redeeming qualities, I didn't see any. Don't come here for mongering. If you must come here, I suppose you can find something. You'll probably fare better in San Pedro Sula than Tegucigalpa. On the SPS thread, Ford's posts are pretty good. As for Tegucigalpa, forget it. It's easier to get laid in North Korea than Tegucigalpa. (If you think I'm exaggerating, I'm not: read my post from the North Korea forum: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=400531&postcount=44[/url].) All I could manage to get was a hand job. As far as I could tell from the Tegucigalpa thread, that's all that anyone got. I read every single post on this thread and didn't find a single person who got laid or even got a blow job. OVERALL RATING: 1.5

NICARAGUA: Not quite as wretched as Honduras, but close. At least Leon is interesting as a tourist attraction, and I have heard Granada is too. Managua is a chaotic city where the streets don't even have names. Your best bet for mongering is to call an escort service in the Yellow Pages and hope for the best. I had good results from Bellamaris; cost US$55. OVERALL RATING: 4

COSTA RICA: Costa Rica, especially San Jose, is one of the best documented forums on this website, so I don't need to say a lot. Pussy is readily available, all over the place actually. The girls are uniformly good in bed, DFK/BBBJ/DATY/CFS the norm. Prices are reasonable; I never paid more than US$60 for an hour. Quality of girls overall is so so. There are some very attractive ones available, but a large number of skanks as well. Your best bet for finding quality chicas is the Sportsmens Lodge. What keeps me from giving CR a 10 is the fact that San Jose just isn't a very interesting city, so there's not much to do but monger. The tourist attractions lie elsewhere in the country. OVERALL RATING: 9

PANAMA: I didn't give Panama the attention it deserves, largely because I was doing tourist things like a canal boat ride, and I was recovering from being sick. I only mongered at one place, River Club, where I got a beautiful chica who was lousy in bed. Cost $US80 cash, $85 credit card. But pussy seems readily available, and I assume that what I paid was representative. But my rating will have to be tentative because of my limited mongering there, so I am basing it largely on other mongers reports as well as my own experience. OVERALL RATING: 7

So there it is. I hope some mongers will find this helpful. If you have experiences to add, please share them. Let's help maintain what should be the fraternal nature of this forum.

Lorenzo

I stayed at the El Panama Hotel for a week in February and rented a Cabana Room adjacent to the pool. I got stopped a few times by security while bringing girls back to my room but just showed the guards my hotel confirmation that I had a rental confirmation for two people and they backed off and apologized each time.The best way to bring the girls in ise from the Casino entrance and thru the bar area at the pool. This is a beautiful hotel with probably the biggest pool and lounging area in Panama City.They also have a great buffet breakfast included in the room rate. Several massage parlours are within walking distance including Oasis about 500 feet away. At night the Venetto Casino right around the corner would fill up with girls around 10 PM, primarily Colombians. I will definetely stay at the El Panama Hotel again in a Cabana room adjacent to the pool.

Does anyone have experience with using cell phones in Panama City or the rest of the country?

I had heard that some cell phones from the USA (ones with a USA cell contract or pay by the unit cell phones) would possibly work in Panama.

If you have experience with this, I would be appreceiative for some information as to the name, type, model # of cell phone, that you have taken to Panama. And has worked for you.

I know about cell phones in Costa Rica, which are rather difficult to get, only work in CR, and expensive. And I have never heard about any USA cell phone that would work in CR.

How about renting a cell phone for use in Panama?

Since I will be making my first trip to Panama in about a month or so, I would like to know if my USA phone. Especially the pay by the minute phones such as the Tracfones might possibly work in Panama.

Thanks guys

[QUOTE=Stevewxly]I would like to set up a small scooter rental business in either Costa Rica or Panama.

Does anyone have experience with using cell phones in Panama City or the rest of the country?[/QUOTE]Hi Steve,

Not to be rude to a new poster, but this really isn't the forum for your topics. Mongering in Panama City? Yes. Random topics? No.

There is a "general info" thread for Panama that would be more appropriate, but since people rarely post in Panama threads anyway you would be better off finding another site for chitchat on cell phones and scooters.

My unlocked cell phone which I used all over the world-Thailand, Colombia and the Dominican Republic to name a few places did not work in Panama. The reason as explained to me by one of the owners of a shop In Panama City, selling phones and sim cards was that the phones use a different frequency over there. And no, cell phones from the US do not there either-different band or wavelenght. If I am wrong someone please provide some feedback

On the bright side it is not too much to purchase a cheap phone, about $30-$40. Hope this helps.

Craig Less

Dear Stevewxly,

Panama can be a lot of fun, however you need to hook-up with someone who has some idea of what's going on down there especially if you want to start a business. Five days is insufficient for this. All the necessary info on Panama City is available on this board, however if you plan on going to David, the person you should contact is Want too play, he will steer you in the right direction. He and I had a blast down there last September. Go when he is visiting. Also I do believe you can take a 'puddle jumper' from a small airport in Pasa Canosa into Costa Rica relatively cheaply. Good luck

Craig Less

[QUOTE=Stevewxly]Proposed Panama/CR Trip - May 25th- June 10th, 2006:

I am an old Gringo monger, (100% Straight - no lite loafers here) nearing retirement age (61 years) am considering moving to Costa Rica. I've been to Costa Rica several times in the last 2 years. I have not yet been to Panama.

Before making a final decision on moving to Costa Rica. I thought I would like to check out Panama also to make sure that it might not be a better all round place me to live than moving to Costa Rica.

I have a small business plan to import several small new motorscooters in a container leaving (later) from the port in either Long Beach, or San Diego.

I would like to set up a small scooter rental business in either Costa Rica or Panama. Later after moving.

And I have been thinking this would be good in Jaco Beach CR. But am not sure of having to pay taxes on these scooters bringing them into the country of CR. It might work better to get them to Panama, and do the same thing there.

I plan on flying to Panama City from Tulsa (I'm living now in Missouri) the last of May to get in on the start of the 'Green or Rainy Season'. Probabaly will leave the States around May 25th. I am kind of frugal. And like to get in on the "rainy season" discounts at hotels and such.

(For example) - did you know that you can stay at a very nice hotel right next to the Beatle Bar in Jaco Beach Costa Rica in the "green season" for less than half the price they get in the 'high season'. It's the Los Four Grandes Hotel, about 40 yards North of the famous Beatle Bar. In the Low season you can get a deluxe large room with kingsized bed, big color cable TV. Couch, coffee table, chest-of-drawers, remote control air-conditioning, private bath w/hot water shower, and there is also another room connected with a double bed, and another small room with a large sink for washing clothes too. Last time I was there (Nov. 2005) it was $ 25. 00 per night.))))).

I will plan on staying in Panama and check out things there for perhaps 4-5 days and then move on to Costa Rica. My tenitive plan is to stay in Panama City a couple of days, and then to take a bus from Panama City up the West Coast to the city of David, stopping and staying along the way for a day or so to break up the long bus ride. ((I hear it is about a 14-15 hour bus ride from Panama City to San Jose.))

If that is not feasable, then I will just fly into Panama City. Do that and then fly out to San Jose CR for the CR part of my trip. Then once back in Costa Rica (((where I am not a newbie & and I know the drill)))I plan on spending perhaps another 7-10 days in CR. I have made about 5 trips to Costa Rica, and been to both coasts. I prefer the Pacific side. And I probably will end up moving to Jaco Beach later. But just in case I should find out that things are better in Panama. Then I want to at least have check out both (Panama & Costa Rica) before making a move.

I have a good buddy who is living and working now in San Jose. He is a dental technician and has been there for 1 1/2 years. He has a local Tica for a live-in girlfriend, a nice 2 bedroom apartment in a good section of San Jose for $250. 00 a month, and is reportedly enjoying living in San Jose very much.

He was my Wingman on the very first trip to CR - 2 years ago. But he is now busy working 5-6 days a week, and can't get away for long.

I know how to get around in Costa Rica pretty well. I've been to many of the 'good spots', and don't mind going it alone in Costa Rica. But would like to get some help with where to go and what to do while in Panama.

If interested, or if you have any tips or thoughts for me - then please respond here on this forum. Thanks, Stevewxly[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Craig Less]My unlocked cell phone which I used all over the world-Thailand, Colombia and the Dominican Republic to name a few places did not work in Panama. The reason as explained to me by one of the owners of a shop In Panama City, selling phones and sim cards was that the phones use a different frequency over there. And no, cell phones from the US do not there either-different band or wavelenght. If I am wrong someone please provide some feedback

On the bright side it is not too much to purchase a cheap phone, about $30-$40. Hope this helps.

Craig Less[/QUOTE]

the problem is that the cellular system here in Panama is 850 Mhz and around the world is 900 Mhz and up. Seems like the telcos here dont want to spent big bucks on using the other wavelenghts in order to corner the market

Not sure where Pasa Conosa is, but if Steve wanted to take the bus to David and then fly to San Jose, there might be a problem. I checked about 6 months ago and there were no direct flights from David to San Jose.

Pasa Canosa is a town right smack on the border of Costa Rica and Panama. There are some establishments here but they can be very hit or miss as it relates to quality. It is about a 45 minute drive from David. Negoiate with taxi driver in David, cost should be around $25. I cannot remember if this was round trip or each way. By the way you need to walk with your passport as there is a border checkpoint and those scumbag Panamanian border agents/police or whatever make it a habit to shake down unsuspecting travellers. Of course if you do not have your passport a bribe is necessary, just do not agree to what they ask for. $20 is sufficient.

Oh by the by the planes are not large, cessena's I think.

Hope this helps

Craig Less

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]Not sure where Pasa Conosa is, but if Steve wanted to take the bus to David and then fly to San Jose, there might be a problem. I checked about 6 months ago and there were no direct flights from David to San Jose.[/QUOTE]

My cell phone worked TOO well in PYC. I am from Hawaii and ran up a bill of almost $6000 in just 3 weeks while in Panama.

I called them pricks with Cingular, my carrier, who assured me they had a plan for like 39 cents per minute. they lied.

I was in the process of closing several biz deals and also splitting up with my ex. I was shocked when I got the bill. The rate was like $2.99 per minute and I had no proof that I ever had sruck the previous deal. I no longer require their services.

BTW, the reception was great. from just your typical motorola.

As for El Panama, I think calling it "5 star" by today's standards is certainly reaching. The rooms, while nice and large, are a bit aged. I did not have a cabana, but a suite in the main hotel. The pool was great and I would definately stay there again. But I would refer to it as 3-4 star. Coco's was pretty cool and the location was great.

I had one security prick challenge me about 2 am one morning with a NON-P4P hook up.. He stepped onto the elevator and told her she had to split if I did not pay him $20. She was really insulted and wanted to leave. My spanish sux and I told her to ask him if "this was for him or the hotel"? He replied "The hotel" so i told her to tell him to "put in on my bill and to fuck off". He walked away a bit flustered.

Well mongers, here's the latest update:
Capri/Fenix: Lotsa, I mean lotsa good looking girls, checked this out on saturday. Same price $10-$15 for 15 mins, and $2-$3 cover entrance. Better if you BYOC. Girls range IMHO for 6 to 9

Gruta Azul: Moderate to good looking girls, might name a very popular one, Vanessa. Also $10-$15 for 15 mins. Most days no cover but on weekend they might charge $1-$2

La Mayor: has decayed a little bit. Might not recommend it until further investigation.

La Bocatorena: good girls around 11am till 1pm. Might be easier to get number and arrange a date without time constrains of the premises

My 2 pennies for the day!!

As said before, the frequency in Panama is of 850Mhz, therefore most of the US/Europe cell phone units does not work.
There are a few options:
1. Buy a local prepaid phone for about US$ 60.00. You will get a new unit and something like $30 on credit for calls.
2. Rent a local phone, for as low as US$5.00 per day, and you have to pay for the minutes.
3. Buy back home an UNLOCKED Quad band phone (like the Motorola Rzr V3) it will operate in any bandwidth in the world and with any SIMM card.
Cheers
LatinBull.

Hello mate.
Can you please tell me the address of the Fenix and the Capri.
Thanks.
LatinBull.

[QUOTE=LatinBull]Hello mate.
Can you please tell me the address of the Fenix and the Capri.
Thanks.
LatinBull.[/QUOTE]

Fenix and Capri are the same place, as for directions, if youre not very familiar with the panamenian landmarks its gonna be hard giving directions, just ask any cab driver to take you to the capri, also called "la fenix". Dont let them drop you right inside, else I think the local might charge you extra because the drivers earn a referal bonus from every customer dropped

Track Star here,

I was a student back in 1987 and spent X-mas and New years 1987 in Panama City. Got in a fight with my two travel mates..they took off up north and I stayed behind in Panama City alone. Stayed at hotel Europe.

Being alone I got into the routine of boozing up every night and take a taxi down to Ancon Inn. I had 9 different women there over a two week period. Went to the brothel Bluee Goose and had a couple of women there too.

One girl was a black girl..very cute, nice body with nice big tits..she was from San Jose Costa Rica..she said her name was Rosa Victoria Brown Ferguson..she had a kid..I wondered what happened to her..she was a very nice girl..we spent several days together.

I met her at Ancon Inn at New Years eve. I had ran the New Years Eve Panama City 10k RUN. I had already made an appointment to meet a girl with very large mammaries I had fucked the girl before at Ancon Inn around 1 am or so that night. Well while running back to the hotel in the dark I took some wrong turns and I got back late.

Jumped in the shower drinking whisky to get a good buzz in order to get primed and ready for the evening. And headed for Ancon. When I got there which was late..the girl with the large knockers already had left with another guy.

I was standing by the bar and having a drink. Then this little black girl in a nice pink outfit comes over and whispers in my ear " I am shaved." I melt and we hit it off right away..that was Rosa Victoria.

She even took me touring the city in a taxi..we went to the Panama Canal.

One night I did her 5 times. She had a nice tight pussy and she had very good control of it to. She could squeeze her pussy muscles so my dick get stuck when I was pumping. That was great.

Is Ancon Inn still there or is it gone? A lot of American GI's went there.

Please keep me posted.

Track Star.

Hello mate.
It is gone!. Cought a fire and never was rebuilt.
Cheers.
Latinbull

[QUOTE=Track Star]Track Star here,

I was a student back in 1987 and spent X-mas and New years 1987 in Panama City. Got in a fight with my two travel mates..they took off up north and I stayed behind in Panama City alone. Stayed at hotel Europe.

Being alone I got into the routine of boozing up every night and take a taxi down to Ancon Inn. I had 9 different women there over a two week period. Went to the brothel Bluee Goose and had a couple of women there too.

One girl was a black girl..very cute, nice body with nice big tits..she was from San Jose Costa Rica..she said her name was Rosa Victoria Brown Ferguson..she had a kid..I wondered what happened to her..she was a very nice girl..we spent several days together.

I met her at Ancon Inn at New Years eve. I had ran the New Years Eve Panama City 10k RUN. I had already made an appointment to meet a girl with very large mammaries I had fucked the girl before at Ancon Inn around 1 am or so that night. Well while running back to the hotel in the dark I took some wrong turns and I got back late.

Jumped in the shower drinking whisky to get a good buzz in order to get primed and ready for the evening. And headed for Ancon. When I got there which was late..the girl with the large knockers already had left with another guy.

I was standing by the bar and having a drink. Then this little black girl in a nice pink outfit comes over and whispers in my ear " I am shaved." I melt and we hit it off right away..that was Rosa Victoria.

She even took me touring the city in a taxi..we went to the Panama Canal.

One night I did her 5 times. She had a nice tight pussy and she had very good control of it to. She could squeeze her pussy muscles so my dick get stuck when I was pumping. That was great.

Is Ancon Inn still there or is it gone? A lot of American GI's went there.

Please keep me posted.

Track Star.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LatinBull]Hello mate.
It is gone!. Cought a fire and never was rebuilt.
Cheers.
Latinbull[/QUOTE]
Good nostalgic places, I was too young to go there when that place was rockin. Like latinbull said, went down in a blaze to never arise again. The Blue Goose still stands, defying time

i flew in on the evening flight from miami arriving pty at 7:30pm. my first mistake was not purchasing a tourist card ($5) just before entering the immigration line. there is a desk with no sign at the beginning of the line which all tourist must stop at, pay the $5, and fill-out a card. no big deal, the immigration line goes really fast.

upon exiting the airport, i was actually surprised the taxi drivers didn't pounce on me. i had to poke around a bit to find a taxi. they insisted $27.40, i countered with $20, then $25, but they wouldn't budget. seems like a crazy price for about a 10 mile trip in panama.

arrived at the courtyard marriott at 8:30pm. seems like a new hotel. very nice rooms, great high-speed internet (free), and right next to a nice mall. although, it appears to be a bit away from the action.

i first hit elite at around 10:00pm. $20 cover includes 3 drinks. if you want a us style strip club with beautiful colombians, this is the place. there were only 2 other guys there and about 20 women. i found the women a little too aggressive. they sit down next to you uninvited and won't leave for some time. on the bright side, they give you a free test drive (let you touch, kiss, etc), but if it goes on for too long, they will ask you to buy them a drink (i believe $15). one thing i noticed with all the women, when they're kissing, they seem to all try to make eye contact with other customers. i didn't know whether the message was "rescue me, i don't want to be with this guy" or "don't you wish you could be this guy i'm kissing right now". either way, i found it disturbing.

11:00pm, off to a casino to check-out the indenpendents and try to find a poker room. i tried fiesta casino near el panama hotel. no poker going on there and i couldn't tell the independents from the regular girls. it was very crowded and loud, so disappointed, i left.

11:30pm, headed to miami club, another us style strip club except with rooms to rent by the hour. i thought the best girls here were about as good as the best at elite. there were a few bad ones mixed in with the beauties at miami club, but overall i was impressed with their looks. there is a flat rate for the room and the girl, $90. i found one i liked and i negotiated $100 for bbbj to be included. i get to the room, and she asked for and additional $100 (the $90 is paid before entering the room). i think she was just trying to pull one on me and she was going to drop her ridiculous fee, but i didn't give her the chance. i'm done as soon as they try to pull something like that. it's a sign of a really bad attitude. i quickly grab my clothes and ask for a refund at the bar. they tell me, no problem, but it takes them 10-15 minutes to work it all out. meanwhile, the girl is bitching me out and i'm calling her out too. they end up only giving me $70 back. for the principle of the matter, i fight for my other $20. here's the interesting part, i go outside and grab a police officer. he immediately goes inside with me, and in 5 seconds i have my $20. this is a great thing to know about panama. the police are pro-gringo, at least this one was, and they're easy to find.

off to another casino, but first, time for lunch, i'll finish this post later today.

For the principle of the matter, I fight for my other $20. Here's the interesting part, I go outside and grab a Police officer. He immediately goes inside with me, and in 5 seconds I have my $20. This is a GREAT thing to know about Panama. The Police are PRO-GRINGO, at least this one was, and they're easy to find.

[/QUOTE]

Nice job to not take the crap. I do the same type of thing and to all my friends' shock no one has gang-beaten me yet.

Just thought I would add on the poker scene. As far as I know you have to go to the big multi-level casino at the Multicentro mall near Punta Paitilla. They have a secluded little VIP room where there is hold'em every night.

Just catching up. This report is from last Wednesday.

Arrived in Panama City for two nights before heading off to meet my novia on San Andres. Then a couple of nights more back in Panama City.

I had a definite plan in mind for this trip which was to check out a couple of places I had been before and get an update. I also wanted to meet a girl in the first couple of nights that I could get back together with on my return. A lot to accomplish but generally a success.

My first plan after my night time arrival was to walk down to Le Palace and find a girl to take out on the side. Went in and it was much darker than I remembered. Around midnight, but there was a nice crowd going. All the girls were dressed in similar white lingerie outfits (not identical). Later the girls did a line dance and I lost count at over 30. Most were in the 8 and 9 range. This time they had a girl on stage nearly all the time doing a routine, but I still think this is pretty lame. Had a drink and scoped out the room. Found one who seemed to be enjoying herself and not significantly silicon enhanced. Had the waiter bring her over. Columbiana from Medellin named Alison. Pleasant to talk too, bought her a few drinks. She asked if her friend could come over to give me a lap dance. She said her friend was the best at it, and I would agree that she had some good moves. Then she asked if I wanted two girls and I declined. She quoted me the rate of $150 for the bar and $250 for her to get out of the club. I told her I was not interested in spending that kind of money especially giving it to the bar. Told here I would like to have a few more drinks with her and then have her come over to the Marriott after work. The secret being to monopolize her so that nobody else would jump ahead of me in line. She agreed and it worked out. Called me and said she was coming over at 5.

When she arrive we talked and had a few drinks and then moved to the bed. Great body, but very restrictive. Not even LFK, no manual stimulation and CBJ. She did do a nice job with that and did not rush. We moved into CG and she rode me pretty hard and fast clearly in an interest of me finishing. Laid down with me and went to sleep. Got up a little while later and said she had to go. Overall a disappointment. I get a sense that the girls here are make a lot of money and are happy doing that with a lot of turnover. She left me her number and told me she could come back later in the day. But to me that would have been a bad investment.

This report is from last Thursday.

My plan was for an early evening appointment at my hotel and then to head out later to Club Miami. I called Laura’s Massage again. It took a couple of a calls to get a live answer. I specified my interests and about a half hour later got a call that the girl was in the lobby. Much to my surprise it is the same girl that I had in February. I was disappointed because I like a lot of variety. I should have said something on the phone that I had been with Marisol before and wanted somebody different. The good news was that she is a very good provider and a lot of fun. So I knew it was going to be a good session. When we got upstairs she was happy to see me again and thought I may heave even asked for her. I did not want to burst her bubble or ruin the performance so I played along. I had booked the $100 two hours session. We had a good time and used all the time well. Quite the opposite to the Palace girl. She enjoyed a lot of manual stimulation.and had no problem with BBBJ. Overall a good couple of hours. But I had a hard time getting her to leave. Told her it was early and I wanted to go to a casino and then go out. She even asked to accompany me to the casino and bring me a luck. I told her no and that I would see her again when I return from San Andres. I will probably not.

Made my return to Club Miami. Spider and I had a good time there in November, but since then there have been a couple of conflicting reports. So in the interest of science it was worth another visit. When I walked in I had the immediate sense of vuja de – that I had not been here before. They have undergone a substantial remodeling. It is much more like an American strip club. Long stage in the middle with tables all around. I found out later that they had replaced all the furniture as well. Much more comfortable. Overall a positive improvement. A large number of girls all dressed in identical lingerie outfits with knee high boots. A lot of girls, but I could not could them easily because of the layout. I would say the quality range was mostly 6 – 8’s with a couple of 9’s. I was approached by a couple of girls but they did not interest me so I watched the stage show for a while.

Much to my surprise the girl I had in November comes walking by. She is one of the 9’s. Read my report from then, she was over the top. Not a lot to decide here, so I call her over. She did not remember me at first, but then after discussing a few of the details it sinks in. Of course I told her I came here looking for her. She is 19 tall, large natural breasts, and has the Halle Berry look. We have a few drinks and she wants be to take her out of the club again. I tell her that I do not like giving all that money to the club and instead she should come over after work. We have a few more drinks and she agrees.

We had an absolutely great reunion. Totally enthusiastic sex. This girls skin is so smooth it is unbelievable. I told her I will be back after my San Andres trip for a couple of days. I want her to plan in advance for spending that time with me. She promises. We will see!

Thanks for the poker tip Jim Steele. I checked it out, they are having a tournament tonight (Sat), but it's a qualifier for WSOP.

After leaving Miami Club, I asked the taxi driver to take me to see the street girls. He brought me to an area near Fiesta Casino Hotel Soloy. The was a nice black girl that he stopped for. She said it was $25 and the taxi driver, thinking I don't know any Spanish, told her to raise her price and give him a cut. She did, an I quickly thought, I'll have the taxi driver take me to the Fiesta casino, I'll ditch him, and walk over to where she is. First, the driver stops for gas and asks for $10 for driving me around. I know it's too high and he screwed up my deal with the girl, but he did show me something I would never have found without him, so I gave it to him. He drops me off at the casino, but then follows me in. I very politely try to get him to leave me alon. He won't. He finally agrees, but asks for $10 more. I nearly lose it with him, he senses he's pushed me too far, and quickly leaves.

Fortunately, after all that, the girl is still on the corner. She agrees to do anything I want for $50 (I know, she originally asked for $25, but I wanted the works). No problem brining her back to the Courtyard Marriott. She performs as advertised, a little cold at times, but seems to have enjoyed her time with me by the time she leaves. She was very clean and no hints of being on drugs. This was a great way to end the night. Before I found her, I was really wondering if this trip was a good idea (with all the $300-$400 price quotes). My suggestion to budget minded mongers in Panama, have fun watching, chatting, and touching at the strip clubs, then consider the street girls or golden times (which I have yet to try for myself) to finish the night.

Got back to Panama after a great trip to San Andres. See the report in that section.

Called my girl from Club Miami to see if we are still going to get together. She anxiously agrees and is at my hotel by 9:30. We grab some dinner and decided to hit a few clubs. She says one of her friends started working at one of the newer clubs, Cristal Moon and would I like to visit. This is perfect as it was on my list to check out. Back in November she took me to visit Le Palace. It is a great way to scope out a club. No pressure and lots of information.

Cristal Moon is away from most of the other clubs.in the central area. Not sure exactly what this area is called. It is very upscale. They had $25 all you can drink for me. No deals for the ladies. We walk into a lounge that is a basically empty. But through that is the main club. Large stage area on the left with multiple dance areas. Usually 4 girls going at once. When we arrived there was a girl doing a dance in large bathtub with bubbles near the bar. Pretty interesting. We locate her friend and she joins us. Large number of girls all 7 and above. Didn’t see any real stunners but all doable. They wear common outfits while in the crowd and change for dancing. Girls drinks are probably $10. I ran a tab and they were both drinking Aguardiente, a lot.

The girls dance on stage and then come around to sit and do private dances or just drink. There are no rooms on site sex. Girls are available for take out for 1 hour for $190 total cost. I would imagine you could arrange your own meetings for later, but I would certainly not take house offer. First it’s too much money, secondly this place is located away from most of the hotels so the time would be very rushed.

I met the owner, Victor. He is a Greek guy who lived in Las Vegas. I complimented him on the look of the club and he says that he wanted to create a Vegas style club in Panama. Good for him. Bad for the consumer. I am not sure how the Panama economy can support something like this in the long term. Although Elite and Le Palace are surviving.

I had a real good time here, but that is because I was with my girl and her friend. But it is off my list as a place I would go solo.

As far as my own night went, we left and went to a local bar where some of her other Panamanian friends were hanging out. A good Latin band and some fun dancing. I really believe she was drinking three shots to every 1 drink I ordered. This eventually caught up with her. By the time we got back to my hotel she hit the bed fully clothed and passed out. I was not pleased. But when she woke up around noon she was very apologetic. We had several great sessions before she finally left to go home. She will be back tonight for my final night. This will definitely be my new regular in Panama now that my other girl is back in Colombia.

KDog - sorry to hear about your troubles in Miami. Unfortuantely I had the best girl from the club with me. The street girls are generally clean and very doable as an option. Your advice is good. Give Life Girls or Capri a try for some lower cost stuff too.

Thanks for the tips Reg. I'm glad to hear you're not giving in to the high prices at the strip clubs. I wish all mongers would refuse those prices so the clubs would have to either lower their prices or go out of business. I'm not against club/girls making some money, but $400 for a few hours is crazy.

I might try Cristal Moon tonight. I like the all-you-can drink concept. I thought Elite had all-you-can drink, but they didn't offer it to me last night. Does anyone know which clubs have this and on which nights?

So my girl from Miami returns after a brief 5 hour absence. We orginally planned to go clubbing but the effects of the night before are catching up with her. I also have a very early departure. So we have a kind of quiet date night. But I did want to point out this area to fellow mongers who want to go somewhere away from the all the action with a chica.

We went to an area called the Causeway. It is a little bit out of town. I paid the cab driver to wait there for us and take us back and he was happy with $15. Beautiful area right on the water. There is a new building there with a number of different restaurants, clubs and shops. We had a light dinner at a second floor restaurant overlooking the bay. Then went downstairs and found a bar with a little Latin group playing outside. Got a couple of foo-foo drinks with umbrellas and hung out. There are also a couple of discos there but neither of us were into it. Back to the hotel, hit the casino for a little bit and then up to my room for some farewell sex. Left her sleeping in bed as I packed and left for my flight.

Sitting in Atlanta now and wanted to catch up before I have to focus on the real world tomorrow.

Kdog - Today is Sunday. Not sure which clubs are open tonight so you might want to check before you head out. I am pretty sure LePalace is. I know Life Girls and Miami are not. Wish I could have had a chance to hang with you.

I'm getting another very strong sense of "vuja de"! I'm reading another well written, informative and all round entertaining report on Panama City by Regulr Travlr! :)

RT, great info and I'm glad you had a good time. I also thank you for your email messages to me off this board. I think you show what a monger can accomplish in PTY when he has experience and good local knowledge - you have both. You're negotiating some very respectable prices and you're sleeping with some very beautiful women. Great job!

Kdog, I'm glad you stuck "to your guns" and got your $20 back in Miami Club. You don't sound like you are someone who is going to get pushed around. I'm sorry to hear that you ran into so many overpriced places and providers. It is for this reason that I steered clear of PTY for so long.

I think we should put a "crew" together sometime from this board and invade PTY in mass. With Regulr Travlr as our guide and coordinator we'll have a blow out time! ;)

cheers,
FORD

As far as I know, ELITE CLUB is still charging $21.00 for open bar (all you can drink). I'm not sure if they have a "special" fee for gringos, but for us (Panamanians) the 21.00 is the cost.

If any of you guys go there, ask for a "$21.00 open bar", if they refuse to, Let the girl know that you and another friend have paid 21.00 before, if she still refuses then simulate you're leaving (that could help).

Saludos.

The high priced places are thriving in Panama because of the visiting American consumer. LePalace, Elite, and now Cristal Moon. Maybe there are others. Having been an American first timer in Panama I can understand the feeling of being overwhelmed by what is out there. Your natural reaction is to head to surroundings that you are familiar with. So you look for the high end strip club. Then the little head takes over. You are in a strip club with beautiful women and ther are no restrictions. " Forget the cost I am finishing the deed. This would never happen at home"

I recenty spoke with my Miami girl about this. She hears it all the time from American men. We can touch you? We can have sex with you? We can't do this at home.

I had two mulligans on my first visit, One with a casino girl and one paying a bar fine at Miami. After that I settled down. Because I became comfortable with what else was out there. If I couldn't get the girl I wanted in a particular club I knew there were many more just like her somewhere else.

There are plenty of clubs where you can go and still keep the price down. Capri is certainly one of them. The street and casino girls are a viable option. I think I said this in an earler report. But in America I have NEVER been with a street girl. They are on the low end of the scale and high risk. In Panama it is not the same. Most are Colombianas who have not been able to land a contract with a club. Very doable. But safety is important here. You do not have a club management structure to go back to if there is trouble.

Just my thoughts and opininons so they must be correct!

Ford - thanks for the comments. Let's set the date. We will need to give Spider a two day head start though!

travlr ill be heading down to pty for mem day week. as you know i will make you proud. especialy since i know where most of the shit is. spider

if anyone wants to hook up .pm . me . well tear through this place like a hurricane. travlr i plan on doubling the amount of girls from last trip. i will probably be staying at el panama. dumb ? but it is still chica friendly . im not worried about the secuity guards . a couple of fresh ones across the face. usually a look from me is all it takes. spider

Spider

Are you staying there to be close to your tout outside the casino? This way you can just open the door and wave so he can bring you another one.

Can't wait to read your reports. The pool should be hopping on Sunday. Make sure your camera is working this time.

Check your PM.

[QUOTE=GauntMan]Well mongers, here's the latest update:
Capri/Fenix: Lotsa, I mean lotsa good looking girls, checked this out on saturday. Same price $10-$15 for 15 mins, and $2-$3 cover entrance. Better if you BYOC. Girls range IMHO for 6 to 9

Gruta Azul: Moderate to good looking girls, might name a very popular one, Vanessa. Also $10-$15 for 15 mins. Most days no cover but on weekend they might charge $1-$2

La Mayor: has decayed a little bit. Might not recommend it until further investigation.

La Bocatorena: good girls around 11am till 1pm. Might be easier to get number and arrange a date without time constrains of the premises

My 2 pennies for the day!![/QUOTE]Is this $10-$15 for full service, blowjob or what ? sounds incredibly cheap ! What chica friendly hotels are nearby. I hear the Montreal Hotel has free transportation from the airport.

[QUOTE=Alwayson]Is this $10-$15 for full service, blowjob or what ? sounds incredibly cheap ! What chica friendly hotels are nearby. I hear the Montreal Hotel has free transportation from the airport.[/QUOTE]

as you heard normal prices(as for panamenians, not sure how they react to tourists) is $10-$15 full service and BJ included, but just be nice to the girl and you will always get something extra!

Here's the scoop on cell phones in Panama. BellSouth provides CDMA service in Panama, and I think maybe Cable & Wireless is also. However, to use a CDMA phone and get the Panama rates, it would have to be set-up (programmed) to work with the BellSouth (or Cable & Wireless) system in Panama. I have heard you can get this done there, but have never tried it.

Cable & Wireless provides GSM service. One word of caution with GSM phones, they MUST be "unlocked" and operate on the GSM 850 band
to be usable in Panama. GSM uses 4 frequency bands, 850 (aka 800)/900/1800/1900. ONLY GSM 850 (OR 800) PHONES WILL WORK IN PANAMA! In the United States, GSM 850 is used by Cingular and AT&T. T-Mobile uses GSM 900 and these phones will not work in Panama unless they can be re-programmed for the 850 band. You may check out the specs
for your phone and find out it's a quad band phone (850/900/1800/1900), however, if it was purchased from T-Mobile, it will have the GSM 850 band disabled. It may be capable of being re-programmed to operate on GSM 850, but it's not a simple fix, and IS NOT THE SAME AS UNLOCKING! Unlocking simply means the phone can use SIM cards from a provider other
than the one who sold the phone. As mentioned above, the GSM phone MUST be unlocked also, this will allow you to purchase a Cable & Wireless SIM card in Panama to use in the phone.

[QUOTE=Texas Now]Here's the scoop on cell phones in Panama. BellSouth provides CDMA service in Panama, and I think maybe Cable & Wireless is also. However, to use a CDMA phone and get the Panama rates, it would have to be set-up (programmed) to work with the BellSouth (or Cable & Wireless) system in Panama. I have heard you can get this done there, but have never tried it.

Cable & Wireless provides GSM service. One word of caution with GSM phones, they MUST be "unlocked" and operate on the GSM 850 band
to be usable in Panama. GSM uses 4 frequency bands, 850 (aka 800)/900/1800/1900. ONLY GSM 850 (OR 800) PHONES WILL WORK IN PANAMA! In the United States, GSM 850 is used by Cingular and AT&T. T-Mobile uses GSM 900 and these phones will not work in Panama unless they can be re-programmed for the 850 band. You may check out the specs
for your phone and find out it's a quad band phone (850/900/1800/1900), however, if it was purchased from T-Mobile, it will have the GSM 850 band disabled. It may be capable of being re-programmed to operate on GSM 850, but it's not a simple fix, and IS NOT THE SAME AS UNLOCKING! Unlocking simply means the phone can use SIM cards from a provider other
than the one who sold the phone. As mentioned above, the GSM phone MUST be unlocked also, this will allow you to purchase a Cable & Wireless SIM card in Panama to use in the phone.[/QUOTE]

Bellsouth is no more, its now called Movistar, and cdma is also gone, movistar now has full gsm

[QUOTE=GauntMan]Bellsouth is no more, its now called Movistar, and cdma is also gone, movistar now has full gsm[/QUOTE]

Wow, don't visit the country for a year, and everything changes! Guess I will tell my wife to leave her CDMA here at home when she goes to Panama in a couple of weeks. It's interesting that Movistar still has some CDMA phones advertised on their website, guess they need to update it.

I was in Panama city last week. I telephoned the Independents number and talked with Erika. She said some new independents have arrived fresh from Colombia. I made an appointment to experience the newbies. The skills would rate between 8 to 10 and attitudes were very good. If you would like the cell number, PM me. Enjoy!

JOZHAPPY

You can buy cell phones with time on them for cheap in Panama. You should be able to buy a phone for about $30 with some time. They always have promotions there with 3 or 4 times more minutes than you pay for. Ask and they will tell you. Once you have a chip the phone company private messages you with their promotions. Just buy a lot of cards then and be sure to load them on. It doesn't matter when you buy the phone cards, it is when they are added to the phone. It is all very simple once you have done it once.

[QUOTE=Texas Now]Wow, don't visit the country for a year, and everything changes! Guess I will tell my wife to leave her CDMA here at home when she goes to Panama in a couple of weeks. It's interesting that Movistar still has some CDMA phones advertised on their website, guess they need to update it.[/QUOTE]

I wouldnt say gone completely, they simply arent advertizing cdma anymore, but I dont think they have thrown a few millions in cdma technology to the garbage can just like that

Had a very disappointing time at Golden Times last night. I've posted a couple of positive/mixed reports here at ISG, including on River Club in PTY and Paradiso in David. But this is the sort of report I hurry to write, as the experience was so bad, y'all need to beware... and [b]run don't walk from Golden Times.[/b]

Told cabbie I wanted a woman, I was indifferent as to coming back to the hotel (Parador) or using an MP, and he gave me a pitch on Golden Times. I recalled the name, had read something about it here but couldn't remember what I'd read good or bad. He insisted it has the hottest women in PTY. About a 5 minute drive later we're there.

They want $94.50 for 1 hour massage/sex in their rooms. This was high but cabbie told me the price accurately before so I was okay with trying them out. There were probably 15 chicas, all were above average. They sit you in a room when you arrive, there were about 5 other men when I got there, at about 10-something PM. They walk the girls in one by one, girl enters, tries to make a sexy look, leaves within 3-4 seconds, next girl. It took me a couple rounds of this before I understood that I was supposed to be noticing the number card on their waste/hip area. At least half of the women came in, posed & left such that I couldn't see the # even when I knew to look. By the 3rd-4th go round I'd found the pen in my pocket and took some numbers down, as I couldn't seem to remember them any other way. These chicas are all seasoned pro looking, IE over 80% had obvious silicone, in many cases way overdone, and they had that certain jaded porn star expression.

I finally chose [b]#8, "Paulina", a chica about 25, claims to be from Medellin CO[/b]. About 5'7", slender, bubble butt, silicone C-cups, light brown hair, nice face. The host dude asks you after each round who you like, I said #8. She comes in and sits next to me, few seconds of small talk and we're in business. She tells me to pay at the front desk, so I paid $94.50 cash, stepped outside to tell cabbie what was happening, and then #8 and I headed upstairs to the room.

Room's small but clean, has a bathroom with shower, and a twin size bed/massage table. She says we both shower separately, no choice. We get naked, I rinse off in the shower for about 30 seconds, dry off and she showers for 2-3 mins. She suggests 30 mins massage, 30 mins sex. I didn't argue, seemed meaningless to outline this sort of thing, as I figure we'll just play it by ear. I should note, her general disposition is a bit icy. Never a trace of a smile, or laugh or sense of humor etc, despite my numerous compliments towards her.

I lay on my stomach and she lightly massages my back and legs with some lotion. Nothing naughty, and no deep tissue stuff, very superficial. This lasts about 10 mins. I turn over, and there's no front massage, she just goes to the CBJ stage. This is fine I'd just assume get on with the fun, given the useless massage style. About 2 mins of CBJ and she stands up on the bed and lowers herself to cowgirl position. We do this about 2 mins, she gets off me. She suggests an HJ sans condom. Well of course I'm paying for more intercourse than 2-3 mins, but it turns out BBHJ with lube is one of my favorite things, sex is great but with condom it's very hard for me to come, and this will ensure I get one off. She didn't know this of course, she was just being lazy or whatever, but she got lucky with this suggestion. She also said something about I'm too big for the condom, do I have a larger one, which I didn't... but if I'm not mistaken (my spanish is very basic..) she was worried the condom would break? Not sure. I have had standard size condoms break several times on me in the past. Whatever the case, I was agreeable to the BBHJ.

She BBHJs me for about a minute with KY type lube, and asks that I stoke it. PFFFFT... this is getting sillier by the minute, given what I'm paying $95 for, but after all, I have some practice at this and again, I can be assured of getting one off, as her stroking method was alright but left something to be desired. So she's massaging by nuts and I'm stroking. It seemed to me we had tens of minutes left, so I wasn't racing to the finish line. About 5 mins of this, and she's piping up about the time. I say yeah, it's okay, I just want to enjoy my time. We go at this about 3-4 more mins, when if I decided to come, I could have any time with about 30 seconds of focus. I was just surfing the pleasure.

[b]Then with no notice, she suddenly gets off the bed and walks to the sink and begins washing her hands of the lube, and says time's up. I say, huh? She says, do I want another hour?[/b] Yeah, right, another $95 for more time with this Ice Queen. I say no, of course, but I'm left there to get dressed, out $95 and no pop, not even very interesting memories.

[b]The scam, which I knew intuitively but couldn't prove at the time, was that she'd shorted me greatly on the time[/b]. I had a watch but I did not make a point of noting the time when we got to the room. Of course she pointed to her watch upon lying to me that the time was up, but this was meaningless because I/we did not check/agree on the time when we arrived. I got dressed within about 2 mins, double checked her name and # "so that I could tell my friends about her, and Golden Time", and I split.

I verified this rip off occured when I got outside where cabbie was waiting. I told him it was a disappointment coz I didn't finish and I was pretty sure she ripped me off on the hour's time. I asked him what time it was when I checked with him right after I'd paid the cashier. He said it was 10:35PM, and yes he was sure, because he´d checked at that time. [b]Guess what time it was now as I was sitting in his cab after this $95 debacle?? 11:22PM. I was still supposed to be in the room with the Ice Queen getting one off for my $95.[/b]

Reflecting back on this [b]GOLDEN TIMES RIP OFF[/b] experience, I think I'm just down on massage parlors. After a couple of decent/mixed experiences, this kind of rip off naturally turns me off to the whole concept of MPs. [b]The basic problem is that to use them, you must compromise rule #1 of mongering, NEVER PAY UP FRONT.

Pay up front, and "they" hold all the cards. If they want to rip you off on time/service as Golden Times does, they can. And there's little to nothing you can do about it[/b], outside of sounding the alarm at a place like ISG.info, to try to steer other potential suckers away from the Rip Off Artists who are out there poisoning the hobby like land mines, awaiting their next hapless victim.

[b]In the case of Golden Times, they add insult to injury in that they're EXPENSIVE relative to our other PTY MP choices...[/b] they charge roughly that magic $CIEN$ price which all the independents routinely ask for but seldom receive... to be paid up front, which experienced mongers know not to do with independents... to prevent the very [b]BS which Golden Times then proceeds to commit: clockwatching, bad attitude, bad service, rip offs WRT the agreed upon time.[/b]

I couldn't agree more with you Tom.
Massage Parlors (GT, River, Miami, etc) do not do the trick for me.
It is a very controlled environment were they hold all the cards upfront.
You could have complained to the Management, but hey, you go to a place like this to have fun an not to argue or discuss with people.
I recommend you use next time Call Girls or Casino Girls.
In the both cases, you can negotiate what you want/expect upfront so you have some sort of control.

Here are some Call Girls numbers, I found on the newspaper.
+50764775958
+50766533106
+50766619670
+50766750822
+50766374761
+50766504629
+50766593847
+50766638439
+50766694671
+50766653857
+50765051560
+50765122451
+50766581509
+50766666230
+50765389765

There is also a disco called La Bodeguita, where you can find some Pro's. You just need to spot them among the Non-pro.
Dont worry, once you are there, they will give you the look, so you will know you are in Business.
Cheers.
LatinBull.

How feasible is it to go from the airport to either Golden Time or Oasis and back, all within 4 hours?

Copa Airlines just canceled my afternoon flight from SJO to CTG and I will have to take their morning flight, which has a layover from 10:00 to 14:33. I will probably have just a messenger bag on my person so that I will have to only deal with Immigration.

SunD,

It should be possible, might be tight if you spend a lot of time in traffic getting to GT, tell the cabbie to use Via Tucomen to Tumba Muerto to Plaza Mirage. Probabyly faster at that time than using the corridor.
Majagualo

[QUOTE=LatinBull]Massage Parlors (GT, River, Miami, etc) do not do the trick for me.
It is a very controlled environment were they hold all the cards upfront.
[/QUOTE]Yeah, they're very controlled alright. You're basically taking a leap of faith that they'll deliver the goods, because they have a permanent location with a sign, and a reputation, count on word of mouth, repeat biz etc. So you take that leap, pay your $, and all those assumptions go out the window and they rip you off as if they can only win. As for any business which negative review/rip-off-alerts like mine cost them, they'll be oblivious to, as the customers who know to steer clear of them, will merely be out of sight out of mind from their perspective. I'd love to learn the email address of the owner of GT, so that I could forward them the url of my rip off alert review... illustrating that, yes, ripping off GT clients is not without consequence.

A brief review of 2 MPs in El Cangrejo where I'm staying. Mainly just a price update, coz I didn't patronize them other than to walk in and walk back out a minute later several nights ago.

Sunday night I walked into "Life Girls" on Via Espana. Some Guido-The-Pimp is sitting at the bottom of the stairs, I ask him how much for sexo, he said $60, please go on upstairs and check it out. I start up the stairs and he says, oh yeah, $15 cover fee. I'm gone, this place oozes sleaze, and I aint paying no cover. I start to walk out, he says wait wait, calls something to the bouncer at the top of the stairs, and then tells me no cover, go on up. I walk up, and it's a dark open area, not sure if they´re supposed to be a floor show (no one's dancing), or a discotech or what. It's sparsely populated, could barely see what the few disparate girls around the area looked like. There was certainly no lineup or anything. Just for posterity, I ask the bouncer how much for sexo? $90-(something). So the games are beginning right out of the gate.. which turns me off, and combined with the sorry appearance of the place, I turn and head back down the stairs without saying anything more.

I tell Guido it's >$90 for sex, and he's back on his game. He knows a place where it's $35! Where, I ask. Oasis! I know Oasis is 60-something (last I'd heard- never patronized them), and I tell him this, but oh no, with him it's $35, and he's excited to walk over to Oasis with me. I'm skeptical but, if he's right, that's good, so we walk the block or so to Oasis together. Once inside, I get the prices, as he looks on. It's $35 alright-- for 30 mins massage, no sex. One hour massage with sex is $75. She first told me $65 but then corrected herself, to $75. I guess Guido's gotta eat?

Normally I would have been willing to pay $65 for the hour deal, but I was not going to reward Guido for his bait and switch game. I turn and walk out, ignoring Guido as if he doesn't exist. He follows me outside, as I'm climbing the stairs to the street level, he asks me for $1 tip. I just let out a loud PFFFT! and continue on my way.

So this is prolly true of all the MPs, but if you let one of the Guido-The-Pimp guys who hang around in the area seeking to rope in Gringos etc "deliver" you to the MP, you're looking at paying them a (hidden) commission built into the price the MP quotes you.

I know from having spent cumulative weeks in El Cangrejo PTY in the past, there are a couple of Guidos routinely hanging around near Oasis. One is a 50ish Black guy named Tony, speaks good english, loud raspy voice. The other regular, I don't know his name, but he's a clean cut Latino who molests you walking by, trying to hand you a flyer. I must have walked by him a dozen times in my prior time here, every time he says hello and wants to shake my hand and give me a flyer and presumably drag me into Oasis, every time I ignore him and leave his extended hand hanging; and the next time it's the exact same routine as if he's never seen me before. As a tall lanky 6-3 gringo, I find this hard to imagine.

But if you're going to try out these MPs, I'd go to whatever lengths necessary to AVOID the Guidos outside. Maybe a brisk walk past as though you're late for something, and a last second turn into the MP. If a Guido walks in after you to try to claim he "delivered you", well, you'll have to deal with that, tell the reception you don't know that person, and don´t pay a dime more than you've heard from reliable sources is their base price.

Readers already know where I'm at WRT the "pay up front and take your chances" MPs at this point... pfff!

[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.[/blue]

Thanks for the reports, Luvr Tom. Reports like yours are what make ISG so useful.

I guess I have insight having worked as a bartender and doorman at a strip club in the US, but it's obvious they are all about extracting the maximum amount of your money for the least amount of their effort.

With reports of 1+ hour of sex for $20 with pretty semi-pros why does anyone mess with the ripoff pros? The thought of paying a hundred bucks to jerk off in front of a jaded hooker in a country where the average person makes $300 a month is absurd.

I'm headed to Panama next week and I'll find cheap, high-quality pussy and tell you where to find it.

sorry to hear that bad exp. Shame on GT. But actually, I think that if you raise the attention to, a cop, lets say, they might surely drop the act right away. When it comes to this kind of place and the police, they wont argue with you and will comply with any demands, as far as Ive hear, and even if you threaten them to media exposure, even worst, the last thing that they want is a migration raid with media coverage.
Ill check with some of my friends that work as camera men in the local tv channels to see how this works if something like that is reported to a channel

Luvr Tom, you should follow my advice. One of the Best places here is Elite Club, just as any taxi driver.

I suggest you ask for the "OPEN BAR" (about 24.00, all the drinks you want).

Somebody's got to try, anyway....

LT's description is extremely accurate: roll call, rooms, showers, tables, etc.. The price used to be $80 + 5% tax, but your price looks like they bumped it up to $90.

I have visited Golden Time at least 20 times over the past year. Friends accompanied me about 5 to 10 times (clients and business associates too), including some take out. In discussions, our experiences ranged from excellent to above average. I've never heard of an experience as bad as yours. But, from surveying some of the looks on the faces of some of the women, I've always assumed that there were a few bad attitudes in there. I admit, I'm looking more for friendliness when they parade in the salon. And yes, the women aren't imported for their massage skills, for sure.

GT is what it is: relatively expensive for sometimes pedestrian action, but almost always with a very attractive performer in a clean and "non-seedy" environment. And it's extremely convenient. Hell, they even take credit cards. Certainly, an accomplished monger can find much easier pickings around the city.

My only complaint with the place is those silly massage tables are about 3 or 4 inches too high for standing action (I'm 6'1"), and sometimes hearing the guy in the next room banging away is a bit of a buzz kill.

GauntMan -- You're joking, right? Media exposure and the police? I think that's the last thing you'd want to do. The government was deporting Colombian hookers right and left about a year ago and police/media attention isn't going to do you and me any good. It would deplete our happy hunting ground of game. Besides, I can't imagine Canal 4 showing up to investigate Golden Time. What would the lead in for Luvr Tom be? "They promise full service but leave you with a quick blow job. And then stop the hand job right when you're about to come."


Luvr Tom, You're getting screwed around by the touts. It's best to do your research here so you can ignore the Guido-the-Pimp types.
I've never pulled anyone from LifeGirls, but $75 is definitely more than I've paid for Oasis. Lifegirls is definitely worth a look. It's certainly not up to the standards of GT, Elite or LePalace, or even Miami IMHO, but the two times I went there were some reasonably attractive women. It's not a bad place to drink an over-priced beer or two before you head off to some of the freelancer spots around Espana.

GT will cost $84 if you don't go there in a taxi. Or get the taxi to drop you off closeby -- tell them you're going to a place close to Plaza California and get them to drop you off at McDonalds or the Esso station or someplace.

I've had mixed experiences at GT. The only really bad experience was a $350 (flame away) toda la noche with an ice queen that bailed on me around 2:30 AM. Also a mediocre experience one Sunday evening when there just weren't very any attractive women in the place. Otherwise, I've found some very attractive women there with > 50% GFE. I usually take them out to a love hotel, which runs around $135 for 1-1/2 hours (Tp Horn -- might be the solution to your problem).

I think the $84/$94 is for 45 minutes, not an hour, which might explain about 10% of your problem. I wouldn't give up on them though -- sounds like the problem was the woman, not GT. You're not going to find anyplace better in Panama for beautiful women at a reasonable price.

Elite Club beats Golden Time (overall).

Not in the cost of the girls, but in quality, attention, service, etc, etc.

I'm at Tocumen airport waiting for my flight home, so I thought I'd give a short report on my trip here to Panama City. I'm not going to review specific girls, because I always think it's a waste of time to try to track down a specific girl someone has recommended. In my experience, YMMV no matter what, and what does the trick for me may not for you, etc.

In any event, here's a brief overview.

Hotel: Stayed at the Las Vegas Suites Hotel across from the Veneto casino. I got a very nice "studio" for $60 + tax per night, which suited my budget fine. I'm sure you can get cheaper but I was happy with the price. The "studio" isn't much to speak of. It's a big room with a small kitchenette and bathroom. No carpeting or special amenities, but it was clean and the staff is good. The two best things about the Las Vegas Suites is 1) it has a wireless system that's quite good and 2) it's connected to Pomodoro and the Wine Bar. The Wine Bar is really excellent--good value and good wines. Nice place to sit. Pomodoro has quite good food and an excellent breakfast.

Food: Other than Pomodoro, the only meal I had worth notice was at the steakhouse Martin Fierro, which is down the street from the LV Suites at 21 Calle Eusebio Morales. It's an Argentine-style steakhouse and the (local) meat was fantastic. I got a great NY strip--bife de chorizo--and an half-bottle of wine for $20. (The imported beef is much more expensive.)

Chicas: Of course, this is why we all come to Panama. I didn't have time for MPs or brothels, so I only visited a few places.

--Veneto casino: Full of girls every night after about 11. Just go up the escalator to the bar and you'll see them. They also congregate around the slots. You can pretty much assume that any girl alone or any group of 2-3 girls are on the job. Most of them are Colombians, but I found a few from Panama that spoke English. Cost is about $100 (I did not spend a lot of time trying to bargain, although I'm sure you can.) Some 9s, mostly 5s-7s.

--Habano's: This is a cigar bar/pool hall/bar across from the Marriott. If you can stand the smoke, it's a great place to hang out, with lots and lots of chicas. Some 9s, mostly 6s-7s. I think the price is a little lower here than at the casino.

--Bolero's: This is on Calle 42 in Bella Vista, and the girls there were smokin' hot. All 9's and 10s. It's a small place, so there weren't too many girls, but the ones that were there were worth doing ... and doing. My guess is the price is also about $100, although I didn't check.

I didn't go to the other hang-outs mentioned in previous reports, but my quick observation suggests that almost every casino and every bar near a casino has available girls. There are also lots of street girls who look a cut above what you see in most places.

I apologize to all of you for not being more specific about my activities, but I'm sure you can imagine. I had no bad experiences, I had no great experiences, but I was content. I just thought it would be good to provide an updated, albeit brief, guide to adult fun in Panama. Next time I'll stay longer and visit more places.

Happy mongering.

I have a gringo friend who lives/works in PTY, lives right across from Veneto.

I've been in there a couple times since I got here a week ago, and noticed the chica scene was different, from last significant time I was in PTY in March. Friend filled me in.

They had some sort of police raid, maybe a month ago, not sure, but whatever happened, the rules of engagement there are now different.

There's no more hoards of chicas around the cocktail tables with their signs out. If a working girl is in that area, she must be accompanied by a man, can't just loiter alone or with her amigas. The chicas are there, but they're at the penny slots, playing real slow like, and looking around alot. So it's more work for everyone now.

I'd be fascinated to learn what's happened to Veneto's nightly bar receipts since... guessing they've been slashed.

Not sure if it's related or not, prolly not, but my friend says Veneto got robbed a few weeks ago, an early Sunday morning robbery, all he knew for sure was he woke up that morning and front of Veneto was swarming with cops.

Replying to several posts here.

[quote]Here are some Call Girls numbers, I found on the newspaper.[/quote]

I see alot of chica's numbers passed around here, but really I can't bring myself to call some number for a complete surprise package of a chica. You call them, you arrange to meet, then what; if she doesn't ring your bell, you're sort of stuck with her, or you have an unpleasantly awkward situation on your hands in cutting her loose because, of course, she's not attractive to you. No thanks. The in-person visual filter is absolutely the first step for me. Thanks, though.

[quote]sorry to hear that bad exp. Shame on GT. But actually, I think that if you raise the attention to, a cop, lets say, they might surely drop the act right away[/quote]My only coulda-shoulda-woulda regrets are,

1) not checking/agreeing on the time with the Ice Queen when we got to the room... for that matter, at the cashier, before paying;

2) not complaining to el heffe, saying I pay them for a good time and to leave happy, not a boring time with an Ice Queen to leave unhappy-- suggest the Ice Queen is bad for their business and further advise him that I'll be writing a negative review of GT;

3) As I was leaving the room, shoulda extended the $20 bill in my pocket to the Ice Queen, saying, here's a propina para buena servicia, watch her light up thinking I'm a bigger sucker that she even imagined, then I say, no, [i]es para BUENA SERVICIA.[/i] Then I jam it back into my pocket and leave.

[quote]One of the Best places here is Elite Club, just as any taxi driver.[/quote]Elite's another MP/bothel/whatever, pay dearly up front and take your chances, no thanks. I guess I could go enjoy their floor show, which I think I read here is quite good, and play the game with getting numbers and setting something up for later... you know, where I pay her directly, AFTER receiving good service... cuts out so much MP BS, you know

[quote]I've had mixed experiences at GT. The only really bad experience was a $350 (flame away) toda la noche with an ice queen that bailed on me around 2:30 AM.[/quote]Woh. That's bad. Expensive bad. Paying that kind of dough for sex/companionship is nowhere in my repetoir, but it does affirm my point about GT: an expensive rip off. Their MO says, they think you're a sucker just for showing up and paying (too much) for sex, you know it and they know it, therefore when they rip you off "like you deserve", you'll go quietly into the night like the loser you both know you are, and not make any inconvenient waves for them.

[quote]I think the $84/$94 is for 45 minutes, not an hour, which might explain about 10% of your problem. I wouldn't give up on them though -- sounds like the problem was the woman, not GT.[/quote]That's the very first I've heard that it's 45 mins, not 60 mins. When the Ice Queen herself proposes, 1/2 hour massage, 1/2 hour sex, it gives the distinct impression that you've got an hour to work with. Ditto when she abruptly terminates the action, and proposes I buy "another hour". 45 mins for $95 (or, $126 per hour) in Panama is BS IMHO, but then again, as you may have guessed, I'm a "dilligent consumer".

As to the notion that, "I just found a bad apple within this impecably honorable, client satisfaction oriented business", I say, [i]there's never just one cockroach.[/i] That's why my review indicts GT as a whole; they know the girls who deliver and those who don't, and they make choices about who they employ... their chicas [i]are their business.[/i] Given that they're obviously not "minding their store" (aside from happily collecting your $$$ up front), I maintain, RUN DON'T WALK FROM GOLDEN TIMES.

[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.[/blue]

I know there's abundant silicone boobs around in this hobby, but, FAKE BUTTS? that's news to me. My PTY dwelling gringo friend told me, yes, there are butt implants... quite common, even. He makes a hobby of trying to spot them. Says he once saw a very professional & enticing infomercial for the surgery.

How did I not know about that? I always assumed boobs were one thing, one kind of tissue and feasible to install air bags and look quasi-real, but the buttocks are a larger area, and they're muscles, after all. Implants which came out looking natural/attractive, would seem to be implausible. No?

Does someone know of a site which hawks the surgery?

Actually, you might be right about it being an hour at Golden Time on the premises for $84. I've only done take out during the last year or two. There used to be a deal, where you could tell them you were referred by Sandman and they were supposed to give you an extra 15 minutes. But I'd always end up with an hour, so maybe my confusion was because they weren't giving me the 15 minutes. You did get screwed out of $94, and thanks, I for one sure as hell am never going to pick Paulina/#8.

I know someone who got buttocks injections and she was pleased with the outcome. I think they injected some kind of fat. From her description it's pretty common in Mexico. Don't know about implants.

I'm curious why Jackson wants a Reports of Distinction link to every report that pans Panama and Medellin. I like both places, although I haven't been to Medellin in a while.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]I'm curious why Jackson wants a Reports of Distinction link to every report that pans Panama and Medellin. I like both places, although I haven't been to Medellin in a while.[/QUOTE]It could be because people are offering reports of paying up to $350 for bad service in Panama, and Medellin is seeing rising prices from American mongers coming in and throwing money around.

From KOS in Medellin: "Just back from Medellin and can say that the prices have risen due to the numerous americans coming into the city. This is not good. Something has to be done. Eventually the girls will make enough money and become lazy and not want to work anymore, they will become americanized, not good."

Maybe Jackson hopes that highlighting the bad service for big bucks will make people wise up.

I can't believe how much some people pay for pussy in these third world countries. It's not that difficult to get decent pussy in the US just spending $50 on drinks on a Friday night, so it should be MUCH cheaper in the inexpensive mongering destinations.

My grandpa used to say people have more money than sense, and after reading how much cash some guys are throwing around I understand what he meant.

[QUOTE=Traveler 1952]Cost is about $100 (I did not spend a lot of time trying to bargain, although I'm sure you can.). --Bolero's: This is on Calle 42 in Bella Vista, and the girls there were smokin' hot. All 9's and 10s. It's a small place, so there weren't too many girls, but the ones that were there were worth doing. And doing. My guess is the price is also about $100, although I didn't check. [/QUOTE]Do you guys really pay the indy's $100?

The first indy I took from Veneto a few months ago was $30. Good looking, too. I was with her again a few nights later, paid her $40. A different Veneto indy I paid $40, & $5 tip. (I'm a young-looking 38, tall/lanky, nordic looking, can get my point across in Spanish, and just maybe they're cutting me a break, YMMV, but bear with me.)

I say hold the line on the indys. $50 plus/minus $20 depending on attractiveness, day/time etc. $CIENs are for toda la noche, and/or the hottest chick you've ever seen, at 12AM Sat night at Veneto-- but even then you're cruising for a letdown-- as it seems the chica hotness score, and GFEs, are negatively correlated. You're more likely to get a jaded ice queen, who respects you even less for paying her whatever she asks. (IE: ah, a doormat, pfff, how else can I milk this sucker? )

Even the ugly ones will never stop throwing out $CIEN as their initial asking price (it seems they all have an understanding on this! ), but it's the occasional John who grabs it without question, which ruins it for those of us who want to pay something more reasonable. Well, not that it "ruins it" but it makes it more awkward to settle on something closer to $50. There's no brothel/MP/club etc taking 2/3 of the cut here, & you're already paying for your hotel room. Let's us Johns fight back with our own understanding on this, and keep a united front, as the indy working girls do.

You know how far $50 goes in Panama, if you live and eat and shop like a local? Who else in this country makes $50/hour? I don't believe (most) lawyers or doctors do. The $CIEN intitial asking price translates locally to, [I]"So, are you a fresh off the boat sucker who's both horny and naive? "[/I] If they get one $50 lay a night, they're ahead of 99% of all Latin American women who work real jobs.

It's also best to pay only after the deed. Agree on this first, in the initial negotiation stage, that you'll pay after. If she's not okay with that, [I]there's your sign, [/I] that you're dealing with a lemon, & run don't walk. Don't get her to your room (when you're sure you're gonna get some booty now! ) and then get in a spat over this point. You'll lose, your little head will blink first. Agree before hand, she takes it or leaves it at that time.

In short, for superior mongering, [I]be the man, take charge of the situation, don't be a doormat, and then take care of her as promised at the end. [/I] You'll find these Latin women [I]respect that, machismo is what makes them horny[/I], and you'll increase your GFEs and decrease your disappointments. Doormats pay more and get less.

(Nothing personal Traveler1952, I'm just making the case for keeping a united front on certain issues, in the end it'll make for better mongering)

Elberto, that was me that paid $350 for bad service at Golden Time. That also was my entire mongering budget for the time I was in Panama -- I was working outside the city the rest of the trip. And if I'm screwing it up for others that are trying to bang 3 chicas a day on $100, so be it. I don't care.

I've had good service from maybe 8 out 10 women I've seen at Golden Time. I've never been with a 19 to 21 year old model-looking hooker in the U.S. But from the internet ads what you can get for $350 at Golden Time (all night) would run $2000+ in the U.S.

Luvr Tom, I don't pay $100 for the Indy's, unless it's for multiple hours. I've paid as little as $25 to one that asked for $100. I haven't run across too many freelancers that looked as good as the cream of the crop at GT. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if Traveler got better service by paying $100. Regardless of whether the chica thinks he's a sucker or generous/nice, she's more likely to want his repeat business. And I've got news for you, it's not the machismo that's making them horny, it's the green. That is, dollars, and for some of the Colombians who are thinking longer term, green card. I've met ones that wanted to stay with me for free, but I can guarantee that it's not primarily because of my looks or language ability. It's because she's looking for the big score (a husband who makes a lot more money than any guy she could get in Colombia). And she'd rather take a few days off with someone who treats her decently instead of getting banged several times a night by strangers.

About paying before hand, a couple of times I got into an argument and ended up leaving the money on the top of a table or dresser and saying take it when you leave. That kept the atmosphere a little friendlier both times it worked out well. I agree that if she brings up getting paid before you get to the room, it's best to dump her.

i agree with you just last night i got a smokin blonde for 4 hrs a columbian girl patricia for 60 ·ill post pics and details when i return home on friday*ii also got her phone number·the elpanama is getting strick they want you to ckeck in all girls for a fee of $20 ·the security is older gent and really asses·i told them i was changing and we were going to the disco he said ok ·this is pissing me off but i wont end up in panama jail so i wont push it to much·spider yes travler i have pics lol

Spider

You only had 1 girl last night and just for 4 hours? What's the problem? If you need some Vitamin V or C the pharmacy is just across the street from El Panama.

Where did you take her from? Do you think your going to be able to outwit security for the whole trip?

RE: The Golden Times issue

I do not think overall it is a bad place. I will never go back because I don't like the MP atmosphere overall and there are plenty of other options out there in Panama. There are countless reports on here and other boards of the quality of girls there. I think that report presented here was of one bad apple. There are probably a few more. But in my visit I had a fine experience. Also if you read the reports here the standard advice is to take a pen and paper with you and start tracking their numbers immediately. Be prepared. Spider and I did this but it didnt work for him because he wrote down every girls number!

travlr be serious .just one girl.i waited for gauntman but got stood up. so i headed to capri . had a few coronas then i picked this tiny girl long black hair really nice body tight little ass . then i went to royal casino. nothing there this is about 100am. habanos was overfull of girls alot of 6-8s . but i wanted to walk around. i almost shit when the guy i used to broker deals was in front of the veneto. he actually remembered me. he goes my friend 5 months you want a girl. i just smiled and he new the drill.he brought back this chica around 27. i got her for $30 for the night. nothing fancy but for that price. what the fuck. i took some pics of her .her name was maria . black hair short ,she.started out bbbj then gets in all fours,as i try to slip it in doggie she grabs it and inserts it in her ass.i was in shock but i went to work. finished up and told her to leave. she asked for taxi money so i handed her $3 . the security wasnt around when i brought her in they must have been somewhere else. a good tip is to reserve a room by the pool which is easier to sneak girls thru.the fiesta casino. soa after that i headed back out around 135am. there was my guy again . there was 2 columbians across from the venetto he called them over . wowthey were hot . he talked to them and they both wanted to come over . i knew this was a problem bacause on my way out there was security all over by the pool.so i chose patricia blonde fake titties but real nice . as we walked by security one came after us. he said i had to check her in and pay $20 . i said i was going to change and go to a disco. he said ok. we got to the room. we both strip down i lay on the bed and she gives a fantastic bbbj. i couldnt see so i move some of her hair . she then slides in a position so i can see perfectly.lots of licking a deep throat action. she grabs a condom and starts to ride me cowgirl. after i put her on all fours . she has a great ass.she rolls over and i now have her legs on my shoulders. until completion. i did 2 pops with this girl. she calls her friend who is at the venetto. im in the mood for a drink so i take a walk. this was for a total of $60 . i also got some good shots of her which ill post when i get back to the states. i also have her #. which i might use to get her friendor a second round with her . i noticed there is no security in the day. i may have to change from vampire to daywalker. more reports to follow. your every day spidermonkey. ps travlr the cocos bar is now the elpanama social club . it was dead all night. spider

Broken english Spider... but it's ok.

I have a suggestion for you guys, why dont you avoid the check in problems in the hotels, and visit some "pushbuttons" (sex motels) in the Transistmica area? they are from very cheap (about 8 ~ 30 dollars) both for about 1 hour and a half?

I reckon that since it's a "special" ride, most of the taxi drivers should charge you about 1.50 plus 5.00 or about 13.00 roundtrip, but NEVER more than 15.00 roundtrip, anyway you can negotiate with him before.

By the way not to complain about what you do or dont do, but did you know that a "BBBJ" can get you infected of AIDS? (be careful) COMPRENDE?

see you guys

Thanks for the full report Spider! Glad to see you were able to have a great opening night! Was the in room service at Capri better than last time? Your guy is probably ecstatic you are back. I am sure he is in need of some new Armanii. He will be camped out waiting for you all week. Probably setting up a shift schedule with the girls to replenish you stock every couple of hours.

From what I saw on my last visit the girls in the Royal Casino were real low end. Although Veneto is cracking down, they still have the better lookers. I liked the comment someone made about the drop in bar revenue they are probably seeing as a result of the crackdown. I know I was impressed with all the action and partying going on in the bar area. It was actually a fun place to hang out for a couple of cervezas and do some window shopping. Kind of an upscale Habanos.

sorry for meeting with you spider, by the time I got your pm I already had plans for the night, maybe next time!!

i spent sunday relaxing by the pool.most of the stores were closed. jimmys steak house is not open either . so i ate at the hotel all day.i decided to head out around 1100pm. i walked around for a while ckecking out all the norm places. royal casino and the fiesta casino had nada which every time i go is the norm. habanos is closed on sundays. the cont casino had a few but not worth the effort, so i headed over to venetto.there were a few chicas . as they walked by i talked to them but they wanted $100 for 2 hours and wouldnt budge. i told them no and left the venetto. there was my hook up guy and we took a walk he saw these 2 chicas by the jimmys steak house. after talks i chose this one columbiana about 5´3 this girls name was janet her hair was pulled back tight and elnatural titties . the deal was for $50.she said we can go to her hotel which was the hotel montreal . this was good/bad . as i didnt have to mess with security but i wasnt expecting this and didnt have my camera. we took a taxi and up to her room. sha was staying with her friend and invited me back tomorrow for both of them for $80. there in room #403 . the service was excellent bbbj and on top then me from behind. i left around 1215 and headed back to my hotel. i took a shower and relaxed a bit. i then headed out around 130am and back to the venetto the place was dead . on my way back out side i saw my guy and he said one more chica.i said ofcourse and he said said me onetime chica all done you young all time. at this point there was a chica walking on the other side of the road . he called her over . a cute columbian girl named natalia . real titties and long black hair.we took off forelpanama and we were almost there and a security guy came calling . ans said to check her in. i put $10 in his hand and he said have good time. i rather pay him $10 instead of $20 to the hotel. tonight ill try $5 and see how this works. any way the chica asked totake a shower and i said yes . she comes out wqraped in a towel . i had no problem unwraping her. bbbj to her on top the the usual positions . i didnt get her digits for i was about to pass out. she left and i went to bed. spider

i have a slight case of memory loss. i also have pics of natalia which ill post later next week . spider

Panamanian, is there a love hotel in particular that's really nice? I've never paid $30 and would be curious what you get for that? The love hotels are convenient if you're pulling a woman out of Miami or Golden Time and have your own car. If you're pulling a woman from the area around Espana or using taxis, I think it's easier going to the Montreal or taking her back to your hotel room.

i would agree tiny. if i plan on more than 2 chicas i might get a fuck room at the montreal. i was there in november and it was $22 for a night. spider

Spider, I went there with 2 chicas, and they charged me extra for the 3rd person -- it was thirty something dollars. Still better than trying to get two slutty looking hookers into my hotel though. There was an Australian couple standing there at reception in the Montreal while we were checking in, and the guy was just about ROTFLHAO while his wife just stood there with a disgusted look on her face. I was there with one normal looking blonde Colombian hooker, but the other one was a black Panamanian with about 44D's and a dress that let it all hang out. Did they charge you extra for women? Looking forward to more of your on the spot reporting!

monday night i headed out around 10 pm . there was 3 security guy in the lobby of the elpanama hotel where im staying. i motioned one over . after some talks we both settled on $ 10 for him or which ever one caught me with a chica . still better than paying $20 to the hotel or the hassle of getting a fuck room somewhere. i headed over to habanos. there was about 20 chicas. around 6 dark skinned panamanians and the rest columbians.there was this hot looking blond but from up close she had more plastic than a toy doll. any way the columbian girl patricia was there and came right over . she was the best service i had in a long long time and i had been thinking about her since sat. we ended back at the hotel. there was no security in sight and i saved $10 . same great session like sat night.she headed out and i took a shower . i headed back to habanos and had a few drinks with her and 2 friends. she is leaving in 2 days. i got her comumbian #.we sat there people watching for awhile . most of the chicas had left and it was around 1230. i took a walk over to venetto but my hook up guy was out front . after some talks we went to royal elegance. this place was very small and filled with service men and around 10 chicas. everyone was smoking and the place was to cramped. so we took a taxi back to venetto. we did a stroll to cont casino but there was nothing in there. we ended up in fiesta casino. there was a hot blonde columbian and her friend my man went to work with the talks.the blonde was wearing this jean outfit with a white top underneath.she wanted $80 but settled on $60. so we cut through the casino and to the hotel but 1 security guy came over and i handed him $10.off we went and she was laughing saying everything was money. but this is the way the world is. any way we get the room. she cleans up and we get things started. she was very gfe and passionate kissing , and lots of licking of me every place. after a great bbbj with some time and alot of effort she grabed a condom and gets on top. this girl was extremely tight which was a shock to me. it was a good thing i had been drinking i would have busted by now. i put her on her back with her legs on my shoulders. then to doggiestyle. i hit it hard and fast and she was moaning loud and biting the pillow. i pulled out and finished on her ass . she lay there for a few minutes then got up and went to clean her self up. just a note i need to stock up on more towels. i took a few pics of her but she didnt want me to so every time she looked at me i took a shot . she was laughing and didnt give me a hard time. we got dressed and walked back to fiesta. i said by and found my hook up guy . i showed him all the pics and he said next time he´ll talk to the chica and he will take the pictures of us in action . i dont know how i can get him and a chica back to the room . whats instore for tuesday night. spider.

The only solution I see is to find one that has some sort of affinity program for frequent guests. Like after every 10 girls you can bring in one free.

Perhaps you should try this with your hook up guy as well. By Thursday you could have an entire free evening!

tiny i got that look last night in fiesta casino . this english woman was staring with dirty looks. she was sitting close and trying to listen . so when the chica started to grab my arm the lady gave out a noise like psss. i stoped and said to her this is night life . if you dont like it go to a fucking bingo parlor.spider

I love it!

[QUOTE=SpiderMonkey] i stoped and said to her this is night life . if you dont like it go to a fucking bingo parlor.[/QUOTE]

LuvrTom:

You're right, of course, about paying too much. I apologize if I've screwed this up for anyone. Probably just had too much to drink and was too horny to worry about it.

I didn't take it personally.

tuesday night i headed out around 930pm.i met up with luvr tom. we took a stroll over to venetto .but not much to look at it was still early. so we headed over to habanos. the chicas were filing in. tom got quoted $70 for the friend of the girl patricia i had done twice before. after a few beers we headed over to miami . i had plans to go meet regulr travlr steady panama girl. for those of you who dont know travlr has many, many,girls all over the world.hes a real international playboy with a passport. so she had her friendd waiting for me. she was panamanian girl .blonde hair and elnatural tits. she had an incredible ass. so i took her to the back room. and had a really great session . this chica was licking my balls like it was a dripping ice cream cone. after the session we took off. ´(travlr ill pm you later).we headed to venetto . there was a few chicas .we decided to get something to eat. luvr tom was tired for he had been heavy drinking for 2 days and he called it a night. after eating i took a walk around. i noticed this hot blond and talked with her . she would not budge on a $100. this was the hottest girl i have seen in all of panama on both trips. she would easily get $500 plus in the states. but i just couldnt pay that. so i then talked to another blonde . after talks she agreed on $50 . we went to my hotel and ofcourse here comes security so i handed him a $10 spot. and off we went. i had a great session with her . and after the deed we talked and hung around for a while. her name was monica about 5"1 . sha has a great ass and elnatural tits. after a while she left . i managed to take a few pics . i have noticed all the chicas i got were open to pics but not to up close pussy and sex scene shots. it will cost a little more. the chicas are alot more of a hustler than my last trip. well tonights my last night .i hope i dont see that hot blond who asked for $100 i probably will cave. spider

Spider,

I don't think I can ever eat an ice cream cone again! The visual from your report was too much information.

I am glad you found a good one at Miami. I warned her you were going to be there and to find the special friend for you.

Travlr

travlr im sitting here pissing myself. to funny. spider

I just made my FF reservations for a PTY-CTG-SJO jaunt in the fall while my wife's off at class. It appears all references on the PTY board refer to "$" instead of Panamanian Balbaos. Is the USD the standard bartering currency? Or is everyone simply refering to the USD equivalent?

[yes, I've rtff several times. If this answer's there I just missed it]

BTW - I'm a Marriott fan, so that's where I'll be.

Sounds to me like the consistent recommendations for best value/best mileage center around take-out, typically SWs, to a chica-friendly hotel like the Marriott.

Thanks.

Dan D.

Yes the currency is Dollars. All paper transactions are dollars. The coins you get may be Balboas. Bring many 1s and 5s. Nothing over a 20. ATM's are fee free from the Panama side. So if you can find a local bank relation you can withdraw totally free. I use HSBC.

The Marriott is a great central location. It is expensive, but I am a worldwide Marriott *W*h*o*r*e so I stay there on my rewards. I have had no problems bringing girls in, but be discreet during afternoon and early evening hours when the regular clientele are coming in. Just so you don't make a spectacle for there nonmongering customers. After midnight just be prepared for an ID check at the desk. Of course if you bring as many girls in one evening as Spider does it may attract attention, or a round of applause.

Got together with spidermonkey (SM) the past couple nights. He's back on the plane today. Nice laid back guy.

Tue night we met, and went to habanos, perhaps around 9pm. We relaxed there for maybe an hour. I chatted with one chick and offered her $50 for the deed, she said $80. I said $80's too much, she said $70 minimum. I said no, too much, and she scooted her chair back over to her GFs table, as if to say, basta, end of negotiation. It's too bad, I was thinking about meeting her at $60, but I didn't like her hard headedness re $70 minimum. $70's the max I want to pay, recall I suggested $50 plus/minus $20 depending on... todos...So the night was young, she wasn't particularly special, run of the mill columbiana, maybe a 7. But SM can vouch for this, the Habanos chicas seem to have formed a de facto union and are definitely on the same page, trying to keep a united front with the $70 minimum thing. SM and I heard the same thing last night, Wed, when we went to Habanos again at nearly 1AM after Capri , and SM tried to reel in a colombiana for $50, and she was steadfast at $70, even said, $70's the minimum for chicas at Habanos... IE yes they're in cahoots. I just don't see it, Habanos is swarming with chicas at night, maybe 20 of them inside and on the patio all sitting around twiddling their thumbs, and maybe 5 mongers window shopping... so those chicas can sit there all night and not get any bites, esp being hard headed about their $70 rule.

So back to Tue night, after my chica refused <$70 and moved her chair, SM and I sat for 10-15 more mins, and decided to go to club Miami. We took a cab, and when we got up to leave I was quietly satisfied to have the chica I propositioned there for $50, still there with her sign out amongst too many other chicas, watching $50-60 walk away. As with all of "the chicas union" there, they can bag $50, and be back with their sign out, and net more $ than if they insist upon their $70 minimum, and watch johns walk away. The battle of capital vs labor marches on I guess.

Miami was pretty interesting, my first time there. We entered and grabbed a booth by the runway. At least 20 chicas working there, all with their matching white outfits. We sat down and immediately had 2 chicas join us, this was because SM was already expected by this chick "Lily", and Lily and her girlfriend sat with us in the booth, cuddling up like they were our long lost girlfriends. It was nice I must admit. Lily took to seducing me, and the other chica was working SM. The thrill of the night for me was, I'd worn these blue athletic pants, simple nylon shell with no lining anywhere, elastic waistband, and no undies/boxers. So Lily's rubbing my inner thigh and helped herself to my dick, which she could feel very vividly of course once she put her hand there. I quickly got a semi of course, and Lily's shocked and boasts to the other chica across the table "OMG" type stuff about my pecker. I hoped the other chica would come over and feel, but she only looked down at it, my semi was pretty clear, and she gave more kudos. SM and I agreed, it's the best thing in the world to have 2 hotties gawking and groping excitedly and generally treating you like a piece of meat, :0) Lily groped some more, even some quick hand down the pants action. This was all within 5-10 mins of arriving, mind you.

I was getting a little concerned about one game going on, SM and I ordered 2 Atlas beers upon arriving, SM paid for them, but a minute after the 2 Atlas, the waiter brought 2 shots of what smelled like Jager Miester to the chicas. I was thinking, I know they're gonna try to charge us for that, and I know I didn't order them. Then the waiter was back again about 10 mins later, our beers were still full, but he asked if we wanted drinks for the chicas. Lily told me the Jagers (?) were $10 each... and I told the waiter, no thanks. A minute later, waiter brings 2 more of these Jagers for the chicas, and with them, hands them each a small slip of paper. So I figure, the chicas are supposed to coax the guys for these ($10) drinks, then Miami splits the profit with them, as a way to motivate them to nag the men for the drinks-- and not just any cheap drinks of course. Lily asked me about some focky-focky action, and I didn't really answer right away, coz in reality I wanted to sit and chill and watch the stage show and be groped some more. I also saw a room full of chicas, and wondered to myself, why SM and I were basically "assigned" these 2 before we'd even sat down. They were both cute and all, but I really wanted to chill for at least 1/2 hour, case out the choices, watch the show etc... and Lily's here trying to drag me in for the $92 lay treatment, just about 10-12 mins after I'd arrived. Lily gave me a brief lap dance, shook her tits in my face, and I was just chilling and enjoying it, but then it seemed, like a light switch, she gave up on me. She sat on the other side of the booth beside her GF, and a minute later SM announced he was going to take a ride on Lily's friend, who'd been there seducing him since we arrived. So the three of them left together. It's too bad, I would've prolly done Lily eventually, but just like at Habanos, the way she just turned off abruptly was a sign of trouble. So I ended up just watching the stage show for my remaining 30-45 mins there, and no one, chicas or waiters, bothered me. I went from being a coveted piece of meat, to being a piece of ahhh... in the blink of an eye. But the stage show was good (very mild actually, no donkey/midget action or anything), and if I wanted to wave a chica over for company I could have, but I was resigned to not blowing $92 there, rather just waiting for SM.

SM returned, said he'd had a good time, and he was ready to go. We'd still only had our 2 beers. I told him, I was concerned that Miami was going to try to charge us $40 for the 4 Jagers (or presumably cheap Jager imitations) they brought the chicas, and told him if they did, we'd have a problem houston, as neither of us asked for them. Anyways, we got up and walked out, and no one stopped us whatsoever... I have a feeling though, that they meant to... we just gave them the slip without even intending to. When we were back in the taxi, SM suggested we both duck down, just in case... LOL

SM and I went from Miami to Veneto. I hadn't had any action, and he was open to finding a woman to bring back to his hotel. We ordered some food in the bar/restaurant, but I abruptly felt a jet-lag-like exhaustion, could barely speak or think, just wanted to hit the hay without further delay. I took my sandwich to go, and said bye for the night to SM, leaving him to eat his monzarella sticks and find a woman.. both of which he did.

We got together again last night, Wed, but I'll have to sign off for now, as I don't have time to write that up in proper detail. Short version though is, first habanos, then Capri, where I had a delightful, very hot/petite colombiana named Angie while SM chilled out, then back to habanos, where SM grabbed a chica... after breaking down and agreeing to her "$70 minimum"... be curious to see his report on her...

I just extended my first ever stay in Panama City from a layover of 4 hours to one of 30 hours. From perusing this thread, I garnered the following information of P4P activities and their locations:

Oasis Massage - around the corner of the Panama Hotel

Habano - across from the Marriott Hotel

Goldentime Massage - in Mirage Plaza, next to a Chinese restaurant

Club Miami - in Mirage Plaza

Crown Casino - In Continental Hotel

Fiesta Casino - In Panama Hotel

Also, I take it that telling a taxi driver to take you to a massage parlor will cost you more due to his commission. The independents in the casinos should cost between $50 to $100, and that the massage parlors, at least Goldentime, will cost $84.

To experts out there, please correct me if I have made any mistake.

wednesday i met up with luvr tom. weheaded over to habanos there was lots of eye candy. but noting i wanted and tom wanted to try capri. so like a good wingman we headed to capri . tom got his petite girl. and after we left. back at habanos. i called this chica over . her name was adrianna. a real looker. brown hair elnatural tits ans smoking little body. i talked and decided on $70. the 3 of us jumoed in a cab and headed back to the hotel dropping tom off at the internet cafe across from venetto. we headed back to my room and there was no security. we got thengs going she was real gfe and alot better than patricia was . which blew me away since i had 2 sessions with her. this was my last night so i decided to keep her for the night . for more $$ which ill keep to myself. she was incredible and passionate. i have her columbian home # and her cell#. she is from medellin . so when i told her i was planning on going down there she was so excited i had to calm her down with a good bang. now i have met many talented girls with great oral skills. but this one took the cake. deep deep throat action to the point i had to stop her . now i never finish oraly but this girl had skills i had yet to experience until now. any way ill im bak in the states and plan on posting my pics soon . spider.

I came across a pair of street walkers next door to Oasis, right in front of the mini food mall. She asked for $40, but settled for $30. Things started off fine, but she kept asking about more money. I almost kicked her out, but she agreed to stop asking for more. Afterwards she continued to ask for favors, to use my razor, for me to buy her food, etc. I´d never do repeat business with her. If only she realized I´d pay her more if she didn´t act so greedy!

I notice the tout for Oasis & her didn´t get along. She called him a "fag" (in English ... one of the only English words she spoke).

Oasis is on Veneto street, which is more or less "around the corner" from the Panama. Veneto is east of the Panama and perpendicular to the main drag, Via Espana. Oasis is on the same side of Veneto as El Panama, and down low, below street level. It's hard to spot the first time.

Club Miami is not in Plaza Mirage. If you're going away from downtown and towards Transistmica and the airport on Tumba Muerto, you'll pass Plaza Mirage, where Golden Time is located, on your right and McDonalds on your left. Then there's a stoplight. Go left at the stoplight, and go about 1 long block (or maybe two short blocks?) and there's a 24 hour Nikko's restaurant off to your left -- keep your eyes open, it's a little hard to spot. Turn left and go past Nikko's and Miami will be on the left side of the road in a strip of shops.



[QUOTE=Sun Devil]Oasis Massage - around the corner of the Panama Hotel


Club Miami - in Mirage Plaza

.[/QUOTE]

I´ve read months worth of entries here about Panama city, and realize now what´s missing, a sense of where the spots are located. Most of them are within a few blocks of each other. I should compile a list of locations. Elite, Life, Le Palace, El Bodeguita, Habano´s, El Panama casino, Veneto casino, etc. are all within a few minutes walking distance.

I'm glad you enjoyed your last night's chica spidermonkey. What'd you 2 talk about, with neither of you speaking each other's tongue? Oh yeah I forgot, the universal language.

Yeah that Capri chica was prolly my funnest. She was < 5 feet tall, 90-some pounds, awesome shapely body, rode my schwantz like a gymnast on the pummel horse.

Hey [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] you are [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]. Right now the cost for the [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] in Panama is getting higher because you are paying too much money. The people that live here could not afford to pay those prices and you are ruining the sex business.

The next time you think that paying those [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] $70.00 for an hour, think again because you are hurting the possibilities of another guys.

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Pty Sexy, O.K., we'll start paying them $20/hour, and all the decent ones will stay in Colombia or go to Costa Rica. Then you'll be stuck having to do your own women. And we'll save on plane fare. San Jose and Bogota are cheaper for me to get to anyway.

if your so sexy why you complaining about p4p.you should get it for free .spider

I am a gringo and I agree with Pty Sexy. We should all stick together and keep the prices down in Colombia and Costa Rica as well. I don't even bother going to Costa Rica anymore. I need to start looking around for a new spot, as the Del Rey crowd will soon make its way to Colombia and ruin it as well.

Devo

[quote=pty sexy]hey gringos you are fucking idiots. right now the cost for the bitches in panama is getting higher because you are paying too much money. the people that live here could not afford to pay those prices and you are ruining the sex business.

the next time you think that paying those bitches $70.00 for an hour, think again because you are hurting the possibilities of another guys.[/quote]


what is your fucking problem? so some dipshit pays $ 70 for an hour. maybe they overpay, so what?

i have seen italians pay chicas in cartagena twice or three times the going rate? i have seen japanese pay huge sums to women for a little pfp ( pay for play- for some of you slow ones), so do not generalize with "hey gringos", it happens across nationalities.

or is your real problem with "gringos"?.

i really get tired of this shit, blaming "gringos" for problems like this. maybe if you are a panamanian, maybe you need to quit biting the hand that feeds you. perhaps you would like hugo chavez to control you? or bring back noreiga?, ole pineapple face. either way, i don't give a shit.

i will give you credit, at least you admit you don't like gringos, unless your neighbors to the north, whom really hate us ( ticos), but act like they love us. i have lived among those backstabbing sons of bitches.

just a yankee giving you the straight [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116][CodeWord116][/url].......;....

Bartchamdo, good idea although I'd be more interested in directions to some of the places outside of downtown. Where's Bodeguita? Thanks

I gots mixed feelings on the pricing issue. Short version, as some of you may have guessed, I come in on the "cheapass" side, and wish to see a united front held wrt what we pay these chicas.

I've been down here for over 4 months, between Pan and CR. CR, specifically San Jose, is quite pricey so I'm just talking about Panama City now. It takes at least a few days, maybe a few weeks, to acclimate yourself to what a buck buys here, vs in the states. Safe to say I'm acclimated, and $70, $100 etc is a small fortune if you live and eat and shop like the locals.

That said, this biz about the Habanos chicas basically unionizing, and letting $40, $50, $60 offers walk away coz they demand everyone conform to their new $70 minimum rule... [i]ridiculous.[/i] They're indys, mostly colombianas, they don't have to "get checked" every week unless they choose to, they have no middle men/house etc pinching 3/4 the cash, they don't pay squat to enter Habanos and sit there with their sign out... or Veneto or most anywhere else for that matter. I'm all for unions and worker solidarity and so forth, but the habanos chicas' game just says greed to me-- again, considering what that kind of $ buys here, and ever more so in Colombia... lets not even discuss what local non-prostitute chicas earn here in a month. The chicas certainly aren't all created equally, whether looks, body, personality, GFE skills, STD liklihood, rip-off/con-artist liklihood etc-- but suddenly they've stepped onto Habanos patio and they're uniformly high class $70 minimum chicas, day or night?? Pfffff. Only if yous suckers routinely roll over for it.

No offense to spidermonkey of course who paid his Wed night Habanos chica $70--- before the later upgrade to toda la noche. I was there for that negotiation, SM started at $50, few mins later upped it to $60... But she wouldn't move down from $70... she's the one who even told us that "habanos is $70 minimum". It was around 1AM at the time, SM's last night before flying back Thurs morning, he liked the chica, the alternative was beginning a new hunt and negotiation somewhere else... it was one of those compromise situations. From [i]her perspective though,[/i] the alternative was most likely no tricks at all that night, as there were about 20 chicas there and only a couple other men. Hello habanos chicas, anyone else see a supply glut here?

But, if you're around for months as I've been, it's a pleasure to walk away from a chica who I feel, all considered, is being too greedy or hard headed. [i]Everything's negotiable[/i] in these parts, most especially P4P. We know it, the chicas know it, don't hesitate to walk away if/when they bust out their make believe union contracts on you. Behind your back they're laughing at you when you roll over for their greed.

Incidentally, I'm keeping an eye on the Veneto Casino scene. I'm living across the street, so I routinely walk a lap through there now, just to window shop. The chicas are there but they've really dryed up from earlier in the year, when it was a mosh pit of chicas around the bar-- a good night had maybe 100 throughout the casino. Lately, there's just a handful of identifyable working girls, and their usually playing slots alone. I'm going to walk over now and check it out, it's Sat at midnight, should be a good gauge of how things are evolving there.

[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.[/blue]

[QUOTE=SpiderMonkey]... back at Habanos. I called this chica over. Her name was [b]adrianna[/b]. A real looker. Brown hair el natural tits and smoking little body. I talked and decided on $70.
...
She is from medellin.
...
Now I have met many talented girls with great oral skills, but this one took the cake. deep deep throat action to the point i had to stop her. Now I never finish oraly but this girl had skills i had yet to experience until now.[/QUOTE]Hey SM,

I just noticed something, I was reading KOS's thread, and in [url=http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=452438&postcount=149]this post[/url] he writes,

[i]"I have met many girls at Habanos, across from the Marriot Hotel. I even met this one girl that swallowed my cum twice. Yes, she was a real cock sucker. I really think she could suck a BOWLING BALL through a GARDEN HOSE. I mean the girl was a true champ, she swallowed with a grin on her face both times, I could not believe it, one of the first girls that swallows and really likes the taste of cum. I was amazed at what a coocksucker. "[/i]

KOS [url=http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=454232&postcount=151]later writes:[/url]

[i]I will not mention her name, but she is from Medellin and is a hardcore cocksucker, I like this girl. The only problem was that she is not the hottest girl the street, I like 10 plus, but this girl is about a 7-8, typical, she wants more money and has to compensate for her looks. She sucks great heeead, I mean maybe the best.

Her name starts with A-----, and works at Habanos and is from Medellin, that is enough clues.[/i]

Hey, your Adrianna was from Medellin, amazing BJer. Hmmm, prolly just a coincidence.

Come on, I'm Panamanian, and I know (guess) PTY-SEXY made that comment just to joke around with you guys. Too bad this MJG-GUY got angry for that or took it soo personal, anyway.

I reckon the costs vary according the person, if the pro knows you're a local the price will be kinda lower, if you're a yankee, you will most likely pay more, and if you're an European you will surely pay perhaps twice the cost.

For example, read back where I reported about ELITE CLUB, for you americans to get in you pay about 20 bucks for 3 drinks, that's it.

For us (drink all you want) you pay 21, it also includes some snack if you ask for it.

See the difference in some points?

COMPRENDE?

By the way MJG dog, dont take it too personal. After all it's just his opinion.

[QUOTE=Panamanian]I reckon the costs vary according the person, if the pro knows you're a local the price will be kinda lower, if you're a yankee, you will most likely pay more, and if you're an European you will surely pay perhaps twice the cost.

For example, read back where I reported about ELITE CLUB, for you americans to get in you pay about 20 bucks for 3 drinks, that's it.

For us (drink all you want) you pay 21, it also includes some snack if you ask for it.
[/QUOTE]What's with the Europeans paying more again? Do the chicas just think they're dumber, or are the chicas exploiting the euro/dollar exchange, or what?

Also, how do you handle the "buying the chicas drinks" extortion game which the clubs so eagerly try to play? I don't wanna pay more than $3-4 for any bar drink anywhere in the world; much less paying $8-12 for these pretentious ass shots of (fake) "premium" spirits. But if you're going to go to Miami, or Elite, and just watch the stage show and chat; the second some chicas sit with you, the waiter is going to be on you like stink on shit suggesting you "buy a drink(s) for the chicas"; of course the BS pretense is you're a cheap ass if you don't and you're cheap ass if you don't let the chica order the drink of her choosing which will of course be a $10 shot of some fake brand name crap... with both the chica and the house splitting the $9.97 of pure profit. You can nurse your drink for a hour or two, but of course the chicas will be blowing through their $10 drinks and the waiter will be there like clockwork with a fresh one, coz, you're not a cheap ass or anything, RIGHT SUCKER?!

I haven't been to Elite, but $20 (cover) for 3 drinks is $6.67 ea. Does Elite then also play the "buy drinks for the chicas" game on you... well duh, but anyone have advice on how to play their game back at them? While still having a good time, not being ignored/boycotted by the chicas for not being a good sugar daddy, and still not getting chumped?

if its her or not i still had one good night

now on my last night there i was with tom. there was some canadians there and i asked them how much they were paying they told me $80 to $120. i told them to not pay more than $50 to $70 which is alot more than my first trip in november. as stated they wont budge on $70.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]Bartchamdo, good idea although I'd be more interested in directions to some of the places outside of downtown. Where's Bodeguita? Thanks[/QUOTE]Hi Tiny,

I couldn´t really help you with directions to places outside of downtown. The only one that I went to was Club Capri and that was a 15 or so minute drive. Cabbies seem to start by asking for $3 but accept $2.

La Bodeguita is on Calle 53 (Clle Uruguay) right next to the ocean. The first few times I dropped in there (in the afternoon and at 8pm) I saw absolutely no one. I dropped in after midnight once and it was jam packed wall to wall. Night life in Panama doesn´t even seem to begin til after 11pm.. $10 cover. It´s supposed to be a good place to find freelancers or to take your lady, though I wouldn´t know from personal experience.

[QUOTE=Panamanian]Come on, I'm Panamanian, and I know (guess) PTY-SEXY made that comment just to joke around with you guys. Too bad this MJG-GUY got angry for that or took it soo personal, anyway.

I reckon the costs vary according the person, if the pro knows you're a local the price will be kinda lower, if you're a yankee, you will most likely pay more, and if you're an European you will surely pay perhaps twice the cost.

For example, read back where I reported about ELITE CLUB, for you americans to get in you pay about 20 bucks for 3 drinks, that's it.

For us (drink all you want) you pay 21, it also includes some snack if you ask for it.

See the difference in some points?

COMPRENDE?

By the way MJG dog, dont take it too personal. After all it's just his opinion.[/QUOTE]


Too bad my government was so stupid ( Motherfucker Jimmy Carter), gave away the canal. Anyway keep taking your potshots, one day the US will wake up and we will demand that our government stop handing out foreign aid accross the globe, but please keep insulting americans, for I want to see the foreign aid end, and maybe we can take better care of our own citizens ( not illegals). . So keep biting the hand that feeds you. But maybe then if we cut the aid off, we will be able to get your women for $ 5-10 USD, toda la noche.

I don't take it personal, after living in CR in the past, I know the resentment too well. Just stating fact here.

Bartchamdo -- Thanks. I think that's convenient to where I stay sometimes (need to look at a map) so I'll check that out.

On another topic, I think maybe Pty Sexy is a gringo trying to start a flame war. Anyway, I hope Panamanian and MJG Dogs don't get into it -- both you guys have given some good tips that have helped me.

And finally, regarding Elite, I have been offered the all you can drink special and I'm a gringo. But I'm not sure that it's available every day. And anyway I'm not a big drinker so it was cheaper for me to do the minimum consumption, which I think was 2 drinks. Luvr Tom, I've been pushed harder there to buy lady drinks than anyplace in town, including Miami. I think drinks is how the women there make a lot of their money -- nobody does take out, because the price is ridiculous. And management will fire any woman they catch setting up something for after hours or the next day (although you can still do it if you're careful). The way to play it back at them would be to do the all you can drink deal and watch the shows -- they're really good -- and don't blow a lot on lady drinks.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]Bartchamdo -- Thanks. I think that's convenient to where I stay sometimes (need to look at a map) so I'll check that out.

On another topic, I think maybe Pty Sexy is a gringo trying to start a flame war. Anyway, I hope Panamanian and MJG Dogs don't get into it -- both you guys have given some good tips that have helped me.[/QUOTE]


Ok, part of my posting is for effect. I do not want to start a flame war with Roberto ( no mas, no mas) Duran.

Again i must "defend" ELITE.

IMO they're very respectfull, they both (chica and waitress) will ALWAYS ask you before buying any drink for the girl.

And about the Europeans... well it's not unknown that most Europeans here are businessmen who make MUCHO money (more than the average gringo or mexican who comes to Panama). For example a german, spanish, french or italian guys most likely will bring mucho money.

The point is not about how expensive are turning the "services" the chicas offer but how able you guys are to pay that.

COMPRENDE?

[QUOTE=MJG Dogs]Too bad my government was so stupid ([blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] Jimmy Carter), gave away the canal. Anyway keep taking your potshots, one day the US will wake up and we will demand that our government stop handing out foreign aid accross the globe, but please keep insulting americans, for I want to see the foreign aid end, and maybe we can take better care of our own citizens not illegals). . So keep biting the hand that feeds you. But maybe then if we cut the aid off, we will be able to get your women for $ 5-10 USD, toda la noche.

I don't take it personal, after living in CR in the past, I know the resentment too well. Just stating fact here.[/QUOTE]Hey MJG Dogs your name is the right one, you are a [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] dog, and no one here want your [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] money (only the colombians [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]), so go back to your [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] country.

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[size=+1][red][b][u]1 down, 2 to go[/u][/b][/red][/size]

[size=-2][blue]Will somebody please report this guy's next personal attack via the "Report this post to a moderator" link, and be sure to note that it will be his 2nd violation.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue][/size]

I’m not from Panama not from US either. I’m from Germany I’m really don’t like the fucking attitude some [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] guys like MJG Dogs have. Here I found good looking women (from Colombia) that would accept $50.00 and will be so grateful that everyone is happy, but when they realized that are some “[blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]” that start paying $75.00 or more, they will start asking for that.

And one final quote to the [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] of MJG Dogs, remember the euro have more value that your [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] dollar.

To the other Americans, don’t take it personal but you have to admit that the [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] came from USA (like [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]).

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[size=+1][red][b][u]2 down, only 1 to go[/u][/b][/red][/size]

[size=-2][blue]Will somebody please report this guy's next personal attack to me via the "Report this post to a moderator" link, and be sure to note that it will be his 3rd violation.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue][/size]

Luvr Tom

RTFF instead of adding all your posts to the Reports of Distinction section. If someone really thinks they are that good they would add them for you.

Why are you so surprised at this? If you had read the forum before any of your visits you would know that Le Palace, Life Girls, Miami, Elite and Cristal Moon all have a chica drink policy. Any girls drinks will be charged at bar price, usually around $10 and the girls and the bar split the profit. This is a common practice in the U.S. It is a common practice in clubs around the world. In the Far East there are clubs where the only thing you do is sit with the girls and buy them drinks. And let’s not forget the “Champagne Rooms.” Some guys enjoy the company. There are easy ways to avoid this - JUST SAY NO. Say it politely. Tell them you would rather find a way to give all the money to them and not have to split it with the bar. Or say you would only like to buy only one. Or do not go to these clubs. There is no drink pricing in place at Habano’s, Veneto or a lot of other places. There are no drinks on the street. But everybody has their own preferences and approaches to being with the girls.

The girls in the clubs are there to make money. Unlike the street girls the prices are fixed by the bar. There are economics in play here. They have “protection” from the owner, they have routine medical checks, some clubs even provide housing. So any activities inside the club have a fixed price and management monitors that. They use their share to offset some of the costs and make a profit. The girls use their share to make money! They can make money by having guys by drinks for them, or by having sex with them. Or both. Their job is to sell. You are customer. Your job is to decide what to buy and from whom.

I have never been ripped off at any of these places. If I like a girl I will sit and have a drink with her. If I don’t like a girl I won’t. The girls will usually ask if it is OK to have another. If you are buying many drinks someone from the club will ask you in advance it it is OK, or require a credit card early on. They do not want to get stuck.

By the way if you are going to be spending a lot of time in Panama you should know a little more about the drink.you call pretentious ass shots of (fake) "premium" spirits. It is not a Jagermeister knock off. Most of the girls don’t even know what Jager is. It is Aguardiente. It is in the family of ouzo and sambuca. It is a product of Colombia. The girls have grown up drinking it. They have songs about it. I now make sure I have a bottle of it in my room for when I bring a girl back.

You posted one of the only reports about being ripped off by Golden Times, and you let a tout from Life Girls take you to Oasis. You are getting stuck for drinks in a club. Perhaps you can admit to inexperience and learn from others on this board

So, Pty Sexy, you're German. Now I understand. Most of the Panamanians that I've met have been buena gente that didn't go around insulting people. Well, except for a couple of taxistas. You need to work on your English vocabulary to find a more effective way of expressing yourself than using the "f" word. And your attitude towards chicas could use a little cleaning up too, based on your post in the Managua thread.

[QUOTE=Grand Pollo]Mr. PTY you will get nowhere in Managua. The girls will hate you. The men will too. They are very physical there. Good luck.[/QUOTE]

I’m sorry for the so called gringos. I spoke several times with Latin people I had met in my travels and the common feeling is that they don’t like Americans at all. I’m sorry if the truth is too hard for you to accept it. We didn’t deny the holocaust like you deny the stuff you did in places like Iraq. Anyway this is not the place for this political issue so I’ll not comment again about this topic.

Remember:

The local price was around $40.00 for a decent girl last year, but right now because of “g____r____s” the price’s almost the double.

Viel Glueck

And Gran Pollo, I don’t know why you attack me, I was impressed with your Managua knowledge but I’m disappointed with your attitude towards me.

I apologize myself for the hard way I made my point about the payments to hookers.

Let’s forget it and star all over again.

I prefer to be a humble man an admit my mistakes.

[blue]Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.

Let's get back to the subject.

Thank You,

Jackson[/blue]

[QUOTE=Pty Sexy]I’m sorry for the so called gringos. I spoke several times with Latin people I had met in my travels and the common feeling is that they don’t like Americans at all. I’m sorry if the truth is too hard for you to accept it. We didn’t deny the holocaust like you deny the stuff you did in places like Iraq. Anyway this is not the place for this political issue so I’ll not comment again about this topic.

Remember:

The local price was around $40.00 for a decent girl last year, but right now because of “g____r____s” the price’s almost the double.

Viel Glueck

And Gran Pollo, I don’t know why you attack me, I was impressed with your Managua knowledge but I’m disappointed with your attitude towards me.[/QUOTE]



Holocaust- Interesting choice of words, considering where the poster resides.

I will not repeat some of the choice words that I have heard to describe the poster's ethnicity, while I was traveling in the dominican republic.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]And finally, regarding Elite, I have been offered the all you can drink special and I'm a gringo. But I'm not sure that it's available every day.[/QUOTE]The lady who takes your money mentioned which days the special is available. Its something like 4 days a week. I dont remember exactly, but I do think that 3 of the days were Saturday, Sunday, Monday.

The announcer for the shows kept hyping the fact they have locations in several countries. What was it? Costa Rica, Guatemala, Panama and somewhere else. I never heard anything special about the one in Costa Rica.

[QUOTE=Bartchamdo]The lady who takes your money mentioned which days the special is available. Its something like 4 days a week. I dont remember exactly, but I do think that 3 of the days were Saturday, Sunday, Monday.

The announcer for the shows kept hyping the fact they have locations in several countries. What was it? Costa Rica, Guatemala, Panama and somewhere else. I never heard anything special about the one in Costa Rica.[/QUOTE]

Elite in San Jose is a real clip joint. I mean you had better account for every drink, every snack. They will overcharge you if you let them. Although I have seen some very fine chicas in there. I mean very very hot.

[quote=pty sexy]i’m sorry for the so called gringos. i spoke several times with latin people i had met in my travels and the common feeling is that they don’t like americans at all. i’m sorry if the truth is too hard for you to accept it. we didn’t deny the holocaust like you deny the stuff you did in places like iraq. anyway this is not the place for this political issue so i’ll not comment again about this topic.


and gran pollo, i don’t know why you attack me, i was impressed with your managua knowledge but i’m disappointed with your attitude towards me.[/quote]

read your offensive posts, some of which i take it were deleted by the moderator. your post in managua asking for **** girls ended any willingness for me to offer any advice for any location.

note i am not american but that did not mean that i thought your posts had any merit.

I got into P.C. last night and so far things are rocking.

The cab ride from the airport to downtown is about $25 plus tips for everyone and his grandmother, but I told the attendant I wanted a ¨collectivo¨ and I was able to split the fare with 3 other Americans on a stopover to Cartagena. With tips I spent $12 to get to the Hotel Montreal.

The Hotel Montreal is pretty basic with clean rooms and rock hard beds. I got a room with 2 beds for $33. The hot water isn´t hot, and it takes 5 minutes to get lukewarm, but there are plenty of other hotels nearby if I want to move.

After I put my stuff in the room I headed to Habano´s across from the Marriott, a $2 cab ride with tip. As I got out of the cab I was instantly greeted by a tout for the Palace strip club, but I told him it was muy caro and I was not interested.

There were a dozen smoking hot girls at Habano´s, and about 5 guys. One pretty Colombiana named Joanna had me sit with her and her friends. After a while she offered to go back to the room for $100 but I refused. Eventually she offered to go for $80 but I said I will get plenty for free in P.C., so no sale. Posts from last year said prices were $30, so special thanks to all you guys so desperate for pussy that you pay any price and mess it up for those of us that like our sex for cheap.

After a few beers I was the only guy left and there were still 13 girls standing around. Finally one of Joanna´s hot friends told her she was going dancing and she was nice enough to invite me. As I was getting into the cab with three hot Colombianas the tout yelled out to me ¨I´m your friend.¨ I just smiled and climbed in the cab.

We went to a local disco playing super-loud reggaeton and I danced with a bunch of hot chicks and had a blast all night.

[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.[/blue]

[QUOTE=Regulr Travlr]Luvr Tom
It is Aguardiente. It is in the family of ouzo and sambuca. It is a product of Colombia. The girls have grown up drinking it. They have songs about it. I now make sure I have a bottle of it in my room for when I bring a girl back.
[/QUOTE]

now that regulr mentions the Aguardiente stuff, DONT EVER get into drinking side to side aguardiente with one of the girls, first youll spend a lot of money, second, youll lose the contest.
They can out drink you with aguardiente for miles!!!

Gauntman

You are absolutley right about that. They can drink it like crazy. Fortunately for me I do not like the taste of it or anything like it. ( I compare it to ouzo or sambuca) but it is much stronger.

I am amazed how much even the tiniest ones can drink. But I have also seen them go right over the edge with it. One hit my bed and passed out immediately.

When they come back to my room I drink vodka, they drink Aguardiente.

Good advice GM

[QUOTE=Elberto]I got into P.C. last night and so far things are rocking.

The cab ride from the airport to downtown is about $25 plus tips for everyone and his grandmother, but I told the attendant I wanted a ¨collectivo¨ and I was able to split the fare with 3 other Americans on a stopover to Cartagena. With tips I spent $12 to get to the Hotel Montreal.

The Hotel Montreal is pretty basic with clean rooms and rock hard beds. I got a room with 2 beds for $33. The hot water isn´t hot, and it takes 5 minutes to get lukewarm, but there are plenty of other hotels nearby if I want to move.

After I put my stuff in the room I headed to Habano´s across from the Marriott, a $2 cab ride with tip. As I got out of the cab I was instantly greeted by a tout for the Palace strip club, but I told him it was muy caro and I was not interested.

There were a dozen smoking hot girls at Habano´s, and about 5 guys. One pretty Colombiana named Joanna had me sit with her and her friends. After a while she offered to go back to the room for $100 but I refused. Eventually she offered to go for $80 but I said I will get plenty for free in P.C., so no sale. Posts from last year said prices were $30, so special thanks to all you guys so desperate for pussy that you pay any price and mess it up for those of us that like our sex for cheap.

After a few beers I was the only guy left and there were still 13 girls standing around. Finally one of Joanna´s hot friends told her she was going dancing and she was nice enough to invite me. As I was getting into the cab with three hot Colombianas the tout yelled out to me ¨I´m your friend.¨ I just smiled and climbed in the cab.

We went to a local disco playing super-loud reggaeton and I danced with a bunch of hot chicks and had a blast all night.

[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.[/blue][/QUOTE]

I'm glad that another guy spoke about the higher prices the bitches are asking in Panama. Some guys (may be old ones) are paying just to much for pussy. Mucho plata

Yesterday I had business to attend to so I didn't have a lot of time to monger, but I did manage to gather a bit of information.

I was in the El Cangrego area for lunch and a tout grabbed me and was telling me about the chicas bonitas at the club nearby. I had told the tout I was going to do nothing if the price was too expensive. He said not to worry.

I followed him forever it seemed and we ended up walking into this alley that opened up into a strip mall and a sign that said "River Club". He pushed the doorbell but nobody answered and an old man washing his car on the other side of the parking lot called him over and had me and the tout follow him into the mall.

A door opened and an older blonde with huge boobs led me down a hallway to a tiny room with 4 pretty girls sitting on a couch. I didn't see any other men and the girls seemed bored. It was funny how they all leaned forward from the couch and looked around the corner at me as I walked in. I would have done any of them in a heartbeat in different circumstances. The woman started at $80 but after I said no she quickly dropped the price to $65 then $60. When the tout held out his hand to the lady to get paid I said no and told the tout I was ready to leave. We walked outside and I gave him $2 for his effort.

I went by the Elite II but it was closed. I asked the security guard about the place. He said the business hours were from 8pm to 6am, the cover charge is $18, and the girls are $250. Seems like a lot of money in a city where there's a pretty girl in every direction you look.

Speaking of the locals, everywhere I go the local girls and women smile and come up to me to chat and try to practice their English. It's a little like being a celebrity. I was going to change hotels today but one of the girls I met on the hotel staff said she wanted to hang out after work tonight so I just added another night. I'm letting the little head think for the big one.

I like the Montreal all right, but it seems like it's a cab ride to everywhere. The heat in Panama City is nothing like I've ever experienced, and with the high humidity my clothes are soaked after just a short walk. I saw a bunch of pensionado hotels around the Hotel San Remo in Bella Vista for only $10 a night, so depending on how things work out with the Hotel Montreal chica I will probably try a few other hotels. Early last night the park about 3 blocks from the San Remo was packed with pretty girls, but by the time I went to the hotel, cleaned up, and got back there had been a heavy rain shower and there were only a few girls around waiting for the bus.

Someone had mentioned how easy it was to just approach a girl and ask her back to your room. I'm a fast operator in general, but it was a stretch for me to walk up to a girl on the street and proposition her. My Spanish is sucktacular, but she seemed interested at first but then said she didn't understand and looked away. I was tired after a long day so I went back to the room and pulled out my Spanish book. I'll try again later and will be successful.

P.S. Pty Sexy, there's no need to refer to the girls as bitches. A little courtesy goes a long way in this life.

I found Hotel Montreal to be a total dump. The tiny TV barely worked. They didn´t give me a remote for it initially and the buttons were missing. The window wouldn´t lock. The bed was hard and there was tons of street noise.

Getting a jack daniels at the hotel bar was an exercise in futility. Even after pointing right at the bottle for 2 minutes they were unable to see the bottle. When they did see the bottle they couldn´t come up with a price. After about 5 mins of this I gave up and went with Ron Abuelo, which is a good rum.

I never saw those alleged in house hookers, though I didn´t spend much time at the hotel (for obvious reasons).

A much better option is Hotel Andino. It´s at Avenida Peru & Calle 35. It´s guest friendly. Costs the same, about $20 a night for a single or double. They have safe deposit boxes in rooms. The room was about triple the size of my room in Hotel Montreal, with a much nicer bed. One of the managers speaks fluent English. The TV gets many stations, including HBO. Hardly any street noise. This was one of the best value hotels I've ever stayed at, and I´m comparing it here to the nice clean cheap hotels I´ve stayed at in Bangkok.

Nice update Eberto.

On pricing again, it's true that just 6-12 months ago the indy chicas at Veneto, or Habanos, would have been in hog heaven to get a minimum $70/lay. What's changed since then? Hyperinflation in PTY living costs? Nope. Only thing to change has been PTY gaining recognition as a monger's destination, mongers plowing in without the sort of "compass" re pricing and everything else as ISG.info provides, and they're paying whatever the chica demands, presumably tricked into thinking, "when in Rome..."

So the chicas aren't dumb, I don't fault them for uniformly proposing the big "$CIEN$" sucker bait to start off with... but when they're unrealistic about how not every gringo just got off the plane with a pocket full of CIENs, and the chicas agree amongst themselves to maintain a "minimum $70" standard as they've done at Habanos, and they stubbornly let $40, 50, 60 offers (standard fare just months ago) walk away. [i]I submit, they're being dumb[/i] (or maybe just temporarily naive/misguided).

They can fool some fresh faced tourists some of the time with that game, but they seem to think they can train [i]all their customers as fools, all of the time.[/i] I say they need to get over that. If I pop into Habanos, it'll just be to mess with them, and then take a walk if they don't accept $50. Let them sit there all night with their $70 (80, CIEN, 150) signs out and make nothing, in the time they could have done 3 $50 tricks.

I'll add this, at the risk of throwing this discussion off track. But I just now thought of this anology and can't resist. I'm among the wave of gringos who's here looking at property offerings, with an eye towards fleeing the USA-Titanic. I've been around here several months. The Panama land/real-estate scene has gone from merely heated, to insane. There are many examples of areas where land is selling for 10 times more per meter than 5 years ago. Local Panamanians who've got some land, have all heard stories by now of how this and that land in their area just sold for some (recently unimaginable) price per square meter. They're getting drunk with dollar signs in their eyes. Nowdaze should someone approach them about their land, they ask double what the plot across the street sold for last week. It's truly frothy... you know, the little bubbles on top of the big bubbles? Meanwhile, with many owners still in denial, [url=http://patrick.net/housing/crash.html#links]US real estate is rolling over[/url] (so are stocks but I digress). Many (US) owners are fixing to get crushed, as they're still drunk from the real estate party, and they refuse to sell for a dime less than the number of fiat federal reserve notes they've been led to believe their property is worth. Panamanian owners are in the same boat, only worse, coz the real estate party here has been many times more intense in recent months/years. You see the anology I'm drawing WRT the indy chicas here lately? It seems the Habanos chicas are playing a fool's game, drunk with the anecdotes of gringos paying CIEN-plus, pretending their own booties are all equal, and/or their customers (wallets/naivete) are all equal-- reminds me of the fat kid who can't pull his hand out of the candy jar coz it's overfilled with candy.

Reg. Travlr: don't know where to begin on that long spiel below. Most of your points are self evident. As to the Aguardiente drink, Lily told me what it was, the name didn't stick in my brain, regardless I don't want to pay fool prices for "chica drinks" anywhere much less in PTY. Nor do I want to pay fool prices for a lay, see above.

[quote=elberto]
p.s. pty sexy, there's no need to refer to the girls as bitches. a little courtesy goes a long way in this life.[/quote]

don't worry about pty sexy. jackson kicked him off the board today for asking about **** girls in managua section.

mgj dogs complained about this and got him booted!!! - thanks from all those americanos that this german (pty scummy) complained about.

$bill

ps - i wrote up a report in feburary about a low price stripjoint/brothel called la mayor. it is not in the greatest part of town (near chinatown in centro) but the pussy was only $25 us + $1 entrance and $1 beers.

Just to let you in on the latest goings on the city. Recently a "witch hunt" has started countrywide, due to some sex scandals with minors and some othe people being spotted posing nude in certain sites of different sexual orientations. This has sparked the "moral minority" wanting to have idiotic laws forbiding citizrns to take nude pictures, film, etc even in private and for private use.
Of course this goes against the freedom of privacy down here but nevertheless has opened up the door for the hipocrite moralist to raise their flags and get some attention. Even some "diputados" aka as senators for us citizens have seized the oportunity to appear "righteous" and speak aloud against that.

Just some general info on the local happenings

Hotel San Remo is $20 per night. You can go around the corner to Dos Mares and I believe it is $10 or $11 per night. San Remo is not a bad hotel, only a few years old and serves it's purpose well. Just around the corner to the right is where the working girls stand about dark. Some nice looking young girls. The park is across the street to the left and about 2 or 3 blocks up. You can bet if the girls are there and by themselves or in small groups they are available. It is a big leap the first time to ask them to go back to the hotel. Just strike up a conversation and when you are ready to leave ask her if she would like to go back to the hotel with you. I have never had one say no. Guess you get more ballsey after that. Good luck and have a great time. Not many places on earth like Panama!



[QUOTE=Elberto]Yesterday I had business to attend to so I didn't have a lot of time to monger, but I did manage to gather a bit of information.

I was in the El Cangrego area for lunch and a tout grabbed me and was telling me about the chicas bonitas at the club nearby. I had told the tout I was going to do nothing if the price was too expensive. He said not to worry.

I followed him forever it seemed and we ended up walking into this alley that opened up into a strip mall and a sign that said "River Club". He pushed the doorbell but nobody answered and an old man washing his car on the other side of the parking lot called him over and had me and the tout follow him into the mall.

A door opened and an older blonde with huge boobs led me down a hallway to a tiny room with 4 pretty girls sitting on a couch. I didn't see any other men and the girls seemed bored. It was funny how they all leaned forward from the couch and looked around the corner at me as I walked in. I would have done any of them in a heartbeat in different circumstances. The woman started at $80 but after I said no she quickly dropped the price to $65 then $60. When the tout held out his hand to the lady to get paid I said no and told the tout I was ready to leave. We walked outside and I gave him $2 for his effort.

I went by the Elite II but it was closed. I asked the security guard about the place. He said the business hours were from 8pm to 6am, the cover charge is $18, and the girls are $250. Seems like a lot of money in a city where there's a pretty girl in every direction you look.

Speaking of the locals, everywhere I go the local girls and women smile and come up to me to chat and try to practice their English. It's a little like being a celebrity. I was going to change hotels today but one of the girls I met on the hotel staff said she wanted to hang out after work tonight so I just added another night. I'm letting the little head think for the big one.

I like the Montreal all right, but it seems like it's a cab ride to everywhere. The heat in Panama City is nothing like I've ever experienced, and with the high humidity my clothes are soaked after just a short walk. I saw a bunch of pensionado hotels around the Hotel San Remo in Bella Vista for only $10 a night, so depending on how things work out with the Hotel Montreal chica I will probably try a few other hotels. Early last night the park about 3 blocks from the San Remo was packed with pretty girls, but by the time I went to the hotel, cleaned up, and got back there had been a heavy rain shower and there were only a few girls around waiting for the bus.

Someone had mentioned how easy it was to just approach a girl and ask her back to your room. I'm a fast operator in general, but it was a stretch for me to walk up to a girl on the street and proposition her. My Spanish is sucktacular, but she seemed interested at first but then said she didn't understand and looked away. I was tired after a long day so I went back to the room and pulled out my Spanish book. I'll try again later and will be successful.

P.S. Pty Sexy, there's no need to refer to the girls as bitches. A little courtesy goes a long way in this life.[/QUOTE]

Panama City is a neat place and for my first time visiting a Latin American country I'm surprised how easy it is to get around and get things done. The people are extremely friendly and seem glad that Americans come to visit their country.

No matter where I've been, if I'm having trouble communicating and no amount of miming or trying to Spanish-ize English words has done the trick, there is an English speaker somewhere nearby that has been willing to help.

The lady barber in Bella Vista got a security guard from the nearby bank to find an American pensionado to help me locate the park, and a nice French man helped the guy at the mobile telephone store understand that I was not trying to buy a gun, but only asking why the guys on the motorcycles were wearing body armor and carrying machine guns. It turns out there are lots of banks and casinos in the area, and machine guns minimize problems with theft.

Around the Veneto Casino there are dozens of shops selling cell phones, accessories, and prepaid minutes. I was able to get a brand new Motorola C115 plus a case and a bunch of minutes for $35, but if you know Spanish you should be able to get better deals.

This area is also home to the sex clubs like Oasis and Life Girls, plus the independents in the Veneto. This is right in the middle of everything you would want to do, and there are a bunch of hotels within a few blocks for just about any budget. There was a guy standing across the street from the Veneto handing out cards offering service at the Oasis for $50, but I didn't have time to enter. I did take a stroll through the Veneto, and just like the reports said, there are many girls hanging out playing penny slots and looking around. Some of them were pretty, some not so pretty, but it's nice to know they're there if you need them.

A couple of blocks down there is a bridge over the road and underneath there are several bus stops and a bank of telephones. As I walked through this area I noticed a bunch of pretty younger women standing around and checking me out. I have had more than one expatriate tell me that every woman in Panama is probably available, so if that is the case these are good hunting grounds.

hola,

i just returned from a two week trip to panama and costa rica.

here are some of my observations:

this was my first trip to panama, although i have been to costa rica many times.

panama - i was in several locations in panama: panama city, colon, david, puerto armuelles, and paso canoas.

i was pretty impressed with panama. yes it was warm, but i found a nice hotel in pamama city with a nice swimming pool. the latino hotel - $ 20. 00 per night, chica friendly-no chica fees, and centrally located.

roads in panama - way better than costa rica. the panamerican highway is just like the 'best super interstate system' in the usa.

the women - saw lots and lots of them all over the place in panama city.

seems like most of the gals were in or around the casinos. ......the veneto and the fiesta casino. they were just standing around like at the entrance to the lounge at the fiesta casino. sometimes they would be in groups of 6 - 7 or more. you could easily approach them and start talking to them, if you knew some spanish, but many of them spoke good english too.

i met a nice gal named lily, age 24, from columbia. we negeoaited the price for 1 hour for $ 40.00 and then went by taxi to my hotel - the latino hotel.
had an enjoyable session with her, and then she left by taxi, and i went to bed.

she gave me one of her cards, which simply said "lily" with her cell phone number. 6628-9241.
and also "acompanante total discresion" printed on the card.
on a 1- 10 scale she was about a 7-8 in looks, and about a 5 in sexual satisfaction.


manolo's restaurant -
a good place to eat & to pick up ho's .........

i ate several times here and had pretty good food, with moderate prices. and i also discovered that around 9 pm. the chicas start coming in an setting at the tables (outside - on the patio ).
you can stroll down the sidewalk and stop and chat with them as you go by. they are "working" and will want to meet you, and this is a great informal place to 'pick them up' for a date to take them back to your hotel. the general going rate should be about $ 40-50. 00 per hour.

mp's- only went to one- downtown- the osasis massage parlor. $ 35. 00 up front fee - 30 minutes. then you negeoaite with your gal for perhaps another $ 30-40. 00 for full service. bj & sexo. so the total will be about $ 75. 00. i visited it a couple of times, but did not participate here. there were 7-8 girls working when i stopped by.

hablanos (sp)- panama city ..... cigar shop and bar:

there is an outside patio area (across the street from the mariott hotel).
this is a local hangout for many ho's....especially the gals from columbia.
they are seemingly stuck on themselves.....and also on their price of "cien por una hora".
go there, take a look, have a drink on the patio, and then move on to 'greener pastures'.

food- the food in panama, especially in the restaurants is really cheap compared to costa rica.

examples= hamburger - 50 cents; french fries - 50 cents; coffee or tea- 30 cents; american style breakfast w/ eggs, bacon, toast, orange juice, & coffee or tea, - $ 2. 00; a typical meal of chicken, potatoes, or rice/beans and salad is around $ 1. 50-2. 00- most of the smaller restaurants.
restaurant food in panama seemed to be about 30-40 % cheaper than similar fare in costa rican restaurants.

taxi's - you could go just about anywhere (except the airport) for only
$ 1. 00.

hotels in panama :
good 2-3 star hotels were about $ 20. 00. some with pools too in this price range.

panama city - hotels :
stayed at the hotel costa inn for the first night - $ 20.00, (no visitors allowed) but moved next day to hotel latino w/a pool- which i liked better for $ 20.00. chica friendly, no chica fees.

david, panama - i stayed at the hotel alcala. chica friendly, no chica fees, real clean, and above average - $ 20.00.
others in david - hotel occidental - (two gringo friends were staying there in the same room for only $ 14.00 total-for both.)


before leaving the us, i had made in inquiry with the hotel marparaiso, as they had free airport pickup (which would have saved $ 25-28. 00 on the airport taxi ride). but did not reserve or confirm a room with them, when i found out that they did allow 'visitors' in the rooms.

never-the-less. when i got off the plane in panama city. there was a guy waiting for me, from that hotel with my name on his card at the airport when i landed in panama city. guess they were hungry for business.......but it was speculation on their part to send their van and driver to pick me up at the airport.

i had met a fellow on the plane, who sat next to me, and he had a rental car and had offered me a free ride into panama city i would deliver me at my hotel - the costa inn. he was from new jersey, but had been born and raised , in panama city. .....later moving as a young man to the usa. he had 'family' still in panama city. thanks rock for the free ride...........

goods - clothing and shoes were way cheaper than similar goods in costa rica.
i bought a pair of size 12 shoes (loafers) in colon that were made in the usa for only $ 7. 00. (and it's hard to find a size 12 shoe in any central american country. ) they have smaller feet - i guess).

casinos - panama city......the veneto casino and the fiesta casino (only ones i visited) will rival many of the good casinos in las vegas, for sheer size and plushness.

and i particullary enjoyed playing the penny slots.......putting in a dollar in the slot machines (panama city) and getting 100 credits ( at 1 penny per credit) to play the slot. that's 100 'pulls' for a buck....if you do it right. ((( the best you will do in costa rica is 25 cent or 100 colone slots....with only 4 'pulls per $ 1.00 there.........

i also got free drinks while playing the slots (of course) and also actually got credit slips (from those machines....they are nicer and newer slot machines than in costa rica ) for a total of about $ 15.00 in winnings.....for only a one dollar investment. and i did cash those in....as i can gamble, but can simply walk away and quit at any time.....
really i only gamble on the slots for the free drinks........

ho's - most i paid was $80. 00 in the city of david. for an exceptional local beauty. who looked a lot like angeline jole (the american actress who is brad pitt's lady). with the pouty lips and great body. but the $80.00 included a $ 40. 00 bar fine to take her out for the night from the la esmeralda night club where she worked.

the least i paid. was $ 10. 00 for 10 minutes. this $ 10.00 was for the same young lady at the la esmeralda club in david. we went to her room in the back of the club for a 10 minute quickie. the bouncer/waiter started knocking on her door after 10-15 minutes. but if she likes you. she will let you stay 20-30 minutes for the $ 10. 00. (she is of course hoping for a tip. which is up to you to give or not to give).

i will not reveal this gals name......as i really liked her, and may want to return to david to see her again.....maybe for a real gfe next time.

i actually asked her to accompany me on up into costa rica for the rest of my trip......and she agreed.....but i then decided the next morning not to take her..........as any good schooled englishman would say, " why carry coals to newcastle ".

i will say that one gal from columbia, named luna (from la esmeralda's) ......who was her friend spoke nearly flawless english, and acted as a translator for this gal and i.
and it was really quite ironical that i had been with luna for the $ 10.00 quickie....before finding the second girl a little later on....in the same club the same evening.

if you want to know more about the city of david......then pm - don - "wants to play" ..... on this forum. he is the # 1 proponent of david, panama......and rightly so, as i think it is a real nice place to go.

at la esmeralda's night club in david, i was such a good sport that i even paid $ 10.00 for my taxi driver to get laid there too. he thought that was great....and i probably made a "friend for life" with that gesture. i also picked out my amiga luna, to get the business from me/him so as to give her a small propina for helping me with the spanlish translations. later i also gave her another $10.00 propina for her translating help.

colon- free trade zone:

i found some great prices on hard goods at the "free zone" shopping area in colon, panama also. i did not buy anything there, as we were pressed for time to get on the train back for panama city.
you could really save some hard cash if you wanted to buy small motorcycles, or outboard motors, or such in the "free zone" in colon. i think you could save a lot of money shopping for most everything there.

recommendations-

go to and see the mira flores locks on the panama canal. this was the real highlight of my whole trip. also i would recommend the train between panama city and colon. or vice versa. for $ 22. 00 - one way. a little pricey, but worth the cost, as you get to see a lot of lake gatun and the canal along the way.

town of puerto armuelles. on the beach. just down the road from paso canoas (the frontier - on the border with costa rica).

nothing going on here. except it would be a great place to "get lost" and lay around and drink your life away. and i met 4 gingos there in a bar, who were obviously doing just that.


panama travel:
i flew into panama city from atlanta.....then flew from panama city to city of david via panana air....$ 54.00 ticket......then took the bus from david to paso canoas - on pan american highway, then via bus from the costa rica border (paso canoas) to san isidro (good trip - good roads), then, as i wanted to stop in golfito cr to check out the free trade zone there..... i took the bus to golfito......which was ok....but the part of the trip from dominical to quepos was on a dirt road....and the bus was simply loaded.....stopping every 3-4 minutes to load and unload people.....and that 60-70 mile part of the trip was at a blazing speed of about 5-10 miles per hour.....it simply took forever for that leg of the trip......so if you are planning on making the trip from the panama/cr border at paso canoas via bus........i would suggest an alternate route, if possible, so you don't to have to endure the 'dirt road' leg of the trip from dominical to quepos, cr.

border crossing at paso canoas was pretty 'painless' though....only took about 10 minutes to walk across the border, and get my passport stamped...... with a 'local guide' - whom i tipped with a $ 3.00 propina.
then got on another bus for the trip on into costa rica.

some people had previously expressed that they had had bad experiences crossing the border at paso canoas. that it had taken a long time and that they were hasseled along the way.......my trip ,on the contrary , was very pleasing....crossing there....no problems at all......and very quick.

i also picked up some information from others who have 'been there - done that' ....that you can go to paso canoas.......after you have been in costa rica for your alloted 90 days.......but if you go on the 88th or 89th day....then you can get your passport stamped.....and do not have to spend the extra three days in panama......you simply go, get your papers stamped, and then turn around and leave the same day (all within the law) ..........this will be great for future trips .....if and when i decide to move to central america.

next time i will go via bus from paso canoas to san jose......then on over to jaco beach from san jose......and not try to go up the pacific coast of cr.


my final thoughts on panama:

in general from my observations i think you will get "more bang for the buck" in panama than in costa rica.

thanks to my 'wingman' - ho lover 1, for your kinship & comraderie (sp) - while in panama city. hope to do it again - soon.

i will make a separate report on my trip to costa rica ..... in that section.

steve

[b][u]editor's note[/u]:[/b] [blue]i certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread.[/blue]

Stevewxly,

Nice report. The observations about Pan vs. CR prices really resonates. I spent 3 weeks in CR recently, mostly San Jose, and I had price shock, after having spent 3 months in Pan. And San Jose was also palpably more dangerous than PTY... unsafe at night, razor wire everywhere. But #1 reason I left there was, my cash burn rate was so much higher than I-d grown used to throughout Panama (including the month I spent in David area).

Incidently I wrote up a few paragraphs yesterday and submitted to this PTY thread, and it seems to have fallen into a black hole?

These women are not check regularly for sexual diseases and therefore the risk could be higher that the others working on MP. The same rule applies to the independents in Casinos.

The benefit of these women is the frequency of the relations. The rate is higher on the club girls than the independents.

The independents of $20.00 could be found nearby a place called "Loteria". Just tell taxista about Loteria and they now where to go. At night these area could be dangerous, better go before 10:00 p.m.

[QUOTE=Luvr Tom]Stevewxly,
Incidently I wrote up a few paragraphs yesterday and submitted to this PTY thread, and it seems to have fallen into a black hole?[/QUOTE]


Hey Tom,

Since you are still a regular member your post are not posted immediately. Check back on post #1137 and see if that is the one you are looking for.

Also - check the requirements and see if you can request Senior status so your posts show up instantly.

$Bill

Last night I was hanging out around the casinos in Bella Vista and after spending some time checking out the girls near the bus stops I met a local guy and asked him how to know which girls are available. He said he knew a pretty girl and would hook me up.

He went around the corner and told his father what I wanted and 10 minutes later came back with a pretty 20 year old mulatta with big boobs. He said it was $20 for her, and to ¨take care¨ of him and his son it was $1 each. $22 for 1 hour and finished in her mouth sin condon.

No need to pay crazy gringo prices in Panama. I saw lots of pretty girls in the Veneto Casino last night afterwards, but none of them were 5 times prettier,or worth 5 times more money. Let´s think with our big head, fellas.

I changed hotels from the Hotel Montreal to the Hotel Benidorm on Ave. Peru y Calle 29. $20 a night single, no chica fees, cold a/c, hot water, convenient location within walking distance of casinos, supermarkets, internet, restaurants, etc. The neighborhood looks rough, but I find it doesn´t feel physically threatening here at all. Just keep your street smarts and everything should be okay.

This area is home to many of the hotels mentioned in earlier posts as places to find local semi pros. Within a few blocks are such hotels as Dos Mares, San Remo, Soloy, Veracruz, Acapulco, and maybe a dozen more. I haven´t seen any streetwalkers like in the US, but occasionally notice girls sitting on park benches who will look up and smile as you walk by. There are always pretty girls waiting at bus stops, but it´s difficult to tell if they are wanting company or waiting for the bus.

I went to the Balboa Yacht Club for happy hour yesterday afternoon and it felt like a jerk-off fantasy for Jimmy Buffett fans. A bunch of old Americans in hawaiian shirts sitting around drinking wine and yelling over loud classic rock. An old post on ISG said there were tables of locals sitting around to be picked up, but the only Panamanians were all at one table and they appeared to be couples.

There is a disco about 15 minutes away called Isla Flamenco, but the waitress said it didn´t start hopping until much later at night. The scene at the yacht club was so lame I finished my cheeseburger in paradise as quickly as possible and got a taxi back into the city.

After finishing with my chica at the hotel I met up with Luvr Tom for dinner and a tour of the casinos. The Veneto was packed wall-to-wall with pretty girls and the way they make obvious eye contact there is no question which girls are available. The Fiesta Casino seemed more like locals enjoying a night out. We hung out at the Cafe Manolo for a bit and saw a few girls stroll by, but when the policia showed up the girls became scarce.

[QUOTE=Dollar Bill]Hey Tom,

Check back on post #1137 and see if that is the one you are looking for.[/QUOTE]in the immortal words of Ed McMahon, "You, Are Correct, Sir!"

Wonder what happened to it, it wasn't there earlier.

Got together with Elberto last night. We had some food and beers at La Terraza about a block from Veneto, did a lap through Veneto at around midnight, lots of indys there, I'd guess at least 50 at the tables and playing the slots. I wasn't really shopping seriously, neither was Elberto. The amount we're willing to pay is, sooo six months ago. We ate some more at Manolos, did another Veneto lap closer to 2AM just for comparison, then called it a night. He'd gotten one off earlier, and I was more into the companionship than I was on a chica quest... but I was open to a right chica/right price deal if I stumbled upon one.. Elberto and I ended up having alot of non-mainstream viewpoints in common, so it was a pleasure just hanging out talking.

[QUOTE=Elberto]Last night I was hanging out around the casinos in Bella Vista and after spending some time checking out the girls near the bus stops I met a local guy and asked him how to know which girls are available. He said he knew a pretty girl and would hook me up.

He went around the corner and told his father what I wanted and 10 minutes later came back with a pretty 20 year old mulatta with big boobs. He said it was $20 for her, and to ¨take care¨ of him and his son it was $1 each. $22 for 1 hour and finished in her mouth sin condon.

No need to pay crazy gringo prices in Panama. I saw lots of pretty girls in the Veneto Casino last night afterwards, but none of them were 5 times prettier,or worth 5 times more money. Let´s think with our big head, fellas.[/QUOTE]Your comments are welcome, this last week some guys were fighting a war about price. The Colombians you find in some places are demanding more money because some guys did pay a minimum fee of $75.00, so there’s a risk that the average pussy would cost more.

You could always pay more for five star pussies but not for the average ones.

Just came back from PTY and was pleasently surprised. After researching the forum contacted $bill for his cab contact. It turn to be awesome, a true street concierge. The guy knew Panama in & out. During the day we went everywhere (tourist areas) and at night we hit the bars. We started at La Mayor, a locals bar/strip place with cheap drinks and cheap women. Average talent but great for the price. I ended with a light skin Haitian great body and face good talent upstairs. She needed just better oral skils. A solid 8.5 overall and the cost a whoping $20.00 for 1/2 hr room included. The place is open 24 hrs. The girls were from 6 to 8.5. I felt safe at all times.

Alex, the cabbie took me to approx 6 other similar bars all over the city. My top choice was a place call Capri. It was a classy strip bar with great talent. The prices were $34.00 per 1/2 hr and $71.00 for 1 hr. This is the non locals prices. It is 1/2 price for Panamenians. I did not see any girl under 7.5 and there were mostly 8.5 and above. Most of them were from Colombia. The rooms are where the girls live so they are well kept and very nice. All girls wear uniforms. Every 20 minutes there is a strip show.

I highly recommend this place and the cabbie also. PM me for the cabbie's phone no.

Good luck and happy hunting.......

Coquí

I just returned from a trip to Panama and Costa Rica.

I spent about 3 days in Panama City and then flew to the city of David.

I enjoyed both places and will go back.

I did not have time to visit or check out any of the beach areas in Panama. I am interested in obtaining information about the beaches. Especially those close to Panama City.

What are the names. Where are they in relation to Panama City. Are they well delveloped. Like for lots of houses, stores, tourists, or they still pristine and undeveloped.

I am planning at least one more trip to Panama for more investigation, before possibly trying to move there, and particulary would like to get some information about the beaches. Information about the beach areas South of Panama going towards Columbia,would probably be better for me than info. about beaches to the North of Panama City. .....but whatever you know about will be fine.....as I am interested in locating near a beach area.

Thanks, Steve

a friend of mine that is starting to work at venetto, overheard that one of the pro's at the casino scored with a friend of one of the owners of the hotel and she took $500 from the guy's wallet/pocket in one of those moments of stupidity that we all have and the owner of the hotel kicked all the pros from the casino.

This is an unconfirmed info but it might be useful to know it. Maybe someone can confirm this or discard it

Myth Busters anyone?

[QUOTE=Stevewxly]I just returned from a trip to Panama and Costa Rica.
. I am interested in obtaining information about the beaches. Especially those close to Panama City.

Thanks, Steve[/QUOTE]
As for the beaches steve, there are many, Ill mention the most famous ones. The closest one is at 30-45 mins drive across the America's Bridge over the canal, I dont recommend it at all. Its just a hang out on sundays for most of the regular working class(middle-middle/low class)

The good beaches are a good 1-11/2 hours drive. There are none viable near the columbian side.
The names are plenty:
Gorgona - very developed, full comodities around, hotels, supermarkets, etc.
Coronado - high class beach a little closed to normal citizens, there's an hotel, golf camp, condo's, you name it. just 20 minutes after gorgona.

San Carlos - 20 to 40 mins after coronado. Full facilities around the beaches.

After that, the rest of the beaches are way inside the countryside, around 2 or more hours driving, most of them might require a good 4x4 vehicle to access and mostly frequented when there are surf contest since those beaches are very famous for the waves the names are:

Venao
St Catalina
Teta
For more references about hotels and/or beach resorts you can try the page of the ministry of tourism
[url]www.ipat.gob.pa[/url] its in spanish but scroll down and there's a link for a downloadable version of the page in pdf format

[QUOTE=GauntMan]a friend of mine that is starting to work at venetto, overheard that one of the pro's at the casino scored with a friend of one of the owners of the hotel and she took $500 from the guy's wallet/pocket in one of those moments of stupidity that we all have and the owner of the hotel kicked all the pros from the casino.

This is an unconfirmed info but it might be useful to know it. Maybe someone can confirm this or discard it

Myth Busters anyone?[/QUOTE]

I have been in the Veneto Casino several times this week, the latest being Saturday night at about midnight, and there is no shortage of hot Colombianas sitting around and making eye contact with every man who walks by.

[QUOTE=GauntMan]a friend of mine that is starting to work at venetto, overheard that one of the pro's at the casino scored with a friend of one of the owners of the hotel and she took $500 from the guy's wallet/pocket in one of those moments of stupidity that we all have and the owner of the hotel kicked all the pros from the casino.

This is an unconfirmed info but it might be useful to know it. Maybe someone can confirm this or discard it

Myth Busters anyone?[/QUOTE]It was $10K stolen from one of the guest of the Casino by a Colombian Girl, who fly out of the country.

[QUOTE=Oasis Girls]It was $10K stolen from one of the guest of the Casino by a Colombian Girl, who fly out of the country.[/QUOTE]Who in his right mind has 10k cash running around on his room with a complete stranger?

I will be in Panama from June 29 for a few days, then its off to Cartagena. It will be my first trip to Panama, but I know Cartagena quite well. If anyone wants to meet up let me know.

Devo

In PC recently and needed some company as wife was in Costa Rica.

Was to meet up with a Panamanian chica I met last year in August and have kept in touch with her. She pretended she was interested in me but when I refused to make a 'donation' to help out her family she decided to ignore me and find another sucker. She also wanted to marry me and when I said no way it just made it worse.

Anyway, went to the Veneto and was just sitting there drinking my beer.

I looked over to my left and saw two large boobs standing next to me.

So I introduced myself to the fine independant Chica from Columbia.

She wanted $100 for the hour and that was too much. I figured I would offer the $100 for the entire night. She accepted and off we went to the room. Did the expected BBBJ, and a few different positions with condom. Gave her some deluxe oral treatments which she really liked.

Woke up in the morning and took her to breakfast.

Made the same arrangement for the next few nights with her and had a fine time. Tried the plea for no condom but it didn't work. Hate condoms. When forced to use them only have a 50-50 chance of popping. Seems I just can't feel enough thru them. Seems as if the little amigo is numb?

ANY suggestions for me on this?

Anyway, ended up paying her $400 for the 4 nights total plus for breakfasts.

The chica was very nice and fun to be with, so I think it was worth it.

So, for the Panama/condom pro's out there, I have a question:

1) Did I pay to much or did I do ok?

2) What to do about the lack of feeling/numbness when using a condom.

Any help truly would be appreciated as to the condom problem.

Thank you all!

[QUOTE=Viva Chicas] Hate condoms. When forced to use them only have a 50-50 chance of popping. Seems I just can't feel enough thru them. Seems as if the little amigo is numb?

ANY suggestions for me on this?

What to do about the lack of feeling/numbness when using a condom.

Any help truly would be appreciated as to the condom problem.

Thank you all![/QUOTE]Viva,

My pop rate with condoms is lower than yours - it sucks. I've heard a number of suggestions:

1. Put on lube before condom - I haven't found this to help but other guys have.

2. Try custom fitted condoms (condomania.com) - I haven't tried this, but some posters have suggested theay are a big improvement

3. Non-latex condoms eg Durex Avanti - I have found these feel much better. Problem is they are apparently not proven to prevent transmission of STD's including HIV

4. You might look at "Safe Sex in Thailand" thread here is ISG - may be more suggestions there

Good luck. If you find a good answer let us know

[QUOTE=Viva Chicas] I figured I would offer the $100 for the entire night.

Thank you all![/QUOTE]
I dont think it was too overpriced, but I think a little bargain might have saved a couple bucks, maybe offering 70-80 all nighter for start might do the trick and mentioning the carry over for the next nights

You gave her oral sex? you asked her to not use condom while penetrating her?

(excuse me to get in your business but...) Have you lost the life enjoyment?
dont you care about your life?

You shouldn't play like that (nor make them play like that).

Just my opinion.

[QUOTE=Viva Chicas]What to do about the lack of feeling/numbness when using a condom.[/QUOTE]

I don't use American condoms anymore because they are too thick to feel the body heat and the extra thickness cuts down on sensitivity. I even tried the expensive Natural Lamb condoms but they weren't any better in my opinion.

I started using Japanese condoms like Crown, Beyond Seven, and Kimono and like them MUCH better than American brands. You can find them online for $5 / ten condoms, or less if you buy sampler packs or in bulk.

Lambskin natural condoms do not protect very well against STD's. Latex is the best, poly is OK but very expensive.

[QUOTE=Panamanian]You gave her oral sex? you asked her to not use condom while penetrating her?

Hi Panamanian. Thanks for the concern, but that is how much of a problem
those damn condoms are.

You are correct however, better safe than sorry in regard to the condoms.
However, have a question on the oral sex thing.

While it is possible you can pick something up doing oral, my understanding is
that it is highly unlikely unless you have a cut/open sore on your mouth.

Is this correct or not?

What do all of you feel on this situation?

Thanks again to all of you,

Viva Chicas

Viva Chicas, I think you're right. See

[url]http://www.dph.sf.ca.us/sfcityclinic/stdbasics/stdchart.asp[/url]

the hotel benidorm is a nice budget hotel located right off ave. peru y calle 29 between the fiesta and caribe casinos in the calidonia neighborhood. for $20 a night you get good beds, showers with hot water, air conditioning and a porno channel on the color tv. the hotel is chica friendly and even has a special with a room for 2 hours only $10. the location is very convenient, but because the diablo rojos have a stop right outside the hotel it is incredibly loud from 6am until after midnight. there is an internet cafe, an okay italian restaurant, and the machetazo supermercado all within a block. on the streetcorner there is a guy who works with the diablo rojos who can get you a pretty girl if you want for about $20 plus a buck or two for his tip.

the san remo is two blocks from the benidorm on (i believe) ave. cuba and calle 31 and rooms run $20 a night. the bed is comfy and the shower is as good as any marriott, it is much quieter than the benidorm and is convenient to two parks where local girls hang out after dark. there is a sign above the front desk that says "no visitors" right beside a big box with condoms for sale. i had several visitors to the room and the lady at the front desk never said a word. there is a restaurant right next door that has really good sopa de pollo and other pretty good light food for cheap.

around the block on calle 30 between the hotel dos mares and the hotel acapulco there is a nice bar and restaurant with a really good internet cafe upstairs. you can sit at the tables under umbrellas and drink cold panama beer for a buck, and as it gets close to sundown you'll see pretty girls gather at the payphones across the street. these girls will smile if you notice them and will come over if you call them. $20 or so will do the trick, and being kind to them will be greatly appreciated. there are flirtatious **** girls here so be careful.

about a block toward ave. peru from the san remo there is a locals bar and after dark there is usually a guy around who can find a girl for you for about $20 plus his tip. he only speaks spanish, so brush up. ave. cuba has a bunch of streetwalkers after dark but they tend to blend in to the scenery to avoid harassment from the policia. my last night in town i chatted up every girl i saw and got prices from $20 from average-to-pretty looking dark-skinned girls to $70 for a real hottie who would have fit in at the veneto.

the hotel montreal is on via espana at about calle 44. rooms are $28 with hard beds, lukewarm water, and a porn channel on the tv. there is wifi internet and computers available in the lobby, and a cheap internet cafe a few blocks away. i saw several pretty colombianas in the lobby and supposedly there are girls available for about $40 staying at the hotel. via espana is a main street and it is extremely loud from early in the morning until late at night. there is nothing nearby so you'll have to take a cab everywhere you want to go.

the hotel costa azul is in the quiet bella vista neighborhood on calle 44. rooms are $20 a night with hot water, cold a/c, and comfy beds. some of the rooms are better than others, so ask to find a room you like. the neighborhood is residential and has nothing much to do, but is only about 3 minutes by taxi from the veneto in el cangrejo. the hotel is about 4 blocks from via espana, right across the street from the los arcos and three blocks from the riba smith supermercado, which has an excellent cafeteria-style restaurant where you can eat large for $8 or less. there is no chica fee and the staff is really friendly and helpful, and will complement you on your taste in women as you walk your chica out to get her a taxi.

After figuring out where some of the main casinos and night clubs were, I visited Oasis. I got there well before their $50 Lunch time special was over. I asked what times the special is for, and the answer was something like Noon to 4. I selected a lady, paid the $50, and was quite satisfied to hear the call of ""Completo" go out to my chosen lady, Vanesa. Vanesa is a beautiful Panamanian woman, soft spoken, graceful and very sexy. After we were done she offered me more - a $40 tip for a CBJ, or $20 for HJ. I didn't have the money with me and refused. She followed up with a pleasant brief back massage, which shows some class on her part.

I told her about how I was wanting to leave my current hotel, Hotel Montreal and she gave her suggestion. She didn't recommend a hotel, but a "residencial" -- Residencial Los Arcos, at $12 / night. She told me it was a very small simple room with just a TV, bathroom and bed, like the tiny massage parlor room we were in. I never did look up the place during my stay, but it might be a good deal. Instead I relocated to Hotel Andino, which was far superior to Hotel Montreal and at the same price.

I got a business card for Oasis before leaving. I was intrigued by this bit on the card: "Free DVDs with House Calls. House Calls Available 24/7." Does anyone out there have any idea how much Oasis charges for room service late at night?

Elberto, that was some nice information about local parks being a good spot to meet women at night. I think I know one of the parks you mean. There's one big one on Ave. Cuba within a few blocks of Hotel Andino (at Calle 35) that I kept passing.

I checked out Habanos and can confirm that every lady there seems to start with a price of $100.

Later I checked out Club Capri. This place seems to be the only great local destination for sex that is far away from downtown panama city. Most of the places that the guys on this forum talk about are within around a 20 minute walk of each other. I had no idea that Life, Elite, Oasis, El Panama, Veneto, etc. were all so close to each other til I went to Panama City and saw it myself.

The taxistas all seem to know Club Capri, though some want to charge $3 for the ride. I always paid $2. Am I paying the going rate or should I be paying $1 or $1.50, I wonder?

I bargained with the Colombianas at Capri, but never found any lady with the faintest urge to budge from the $36 price. I kept saying how I had a local friend who paid less, but they insisted the lower price is for Panamanian Citizens only. Most of the women were very do-able, but I think I misjudged my Colombiana. We had sex, but it felt too rushed and I didn't come.

Later, hooked up with a streetwalker right next door to Oasis at the food court. She asked for $40 and I countered with $30. She accepted, but then spent our time together complaining about the low pay. Our sex was good. In the end I paid her $30 plus a $10 tip.

After this I headed to Colombia for a few weeks. See my posts in the Cartagena and Bogota sections. In short, I thought Cartagena was excessively touristy and money-oriented, but loved Bogota. Bogota was terrific! Massage parlor sessions with happy endings start at just over $10.

I returned to Panama City a few weeks later for 1 night before I flew away. I had 2 of my opinions about Panama City changed from this short one night visit:

1. Hotel Andino isn't as perfect as I'd told everyone on this forum. I saw a few tiny cockroaches in the bathroom late at night. Still, so what? The place is a bargain at $20/night.

2. Club Capri can give you an excellent experience depending on how you lead up to it. I arrived on a Saturday night to find perhaps 20 ladies there. I talked with 3 or 4 until I met one who seemed right. I told her that I didn't like my first experience at Capri, and wanted my second to be better. She seemed right for the situation. She did hurry me to make up my mind and come with her to her room, but it didn't feel like she was hustling me, just doing business. Her name was Estrella, from Cali, and she showed me a great time!! Viva Colombia!

[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.[/blue]

Is club Habano across from the Marriot Hotel on calle 52 or the Courtyard Marriot on Via Israel?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Omaster]Is club Habano across from the Marriot Hotel on calle 52 or the Courtyard Marriot on Via Israel?

Thanks[/QUOTE]


Calle 52.

Majagualo

Majagualo,

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Majagualo]Calle 52.

Majagualo[/QUOTE]

Guys,

I just wanted to say hello and that I am a current Panamanian Resident who knows all the clubs. I know Club Miami, La Gruta Azul, Capri, Golden, Le palace, Elite, Mayor, Carribean center, oriental, and basically every other place were the women are in the city and outside the city.

I have all the information on the city and if you need help, do not hesitate to call me. I am a tourist guide that picks up people from the airport and basically work on a hourly basis, or by the day. I can show you the canal, free zone, or any casa de mujeres that you want.

If you are looking for a tourist/taxi guide, do not hesitate to call me in panama. From the usa it is [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue], or in Panama call me at [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue]. My name is Al.

Thanx

[size=-2][u]EDITOR's NOTE[/u]: [blue]This report was edited to [u]remove personal telephone numbers[/u] in the text. Please do not post personal telephone numbers in the Forum. Instead, please invite other Forum Members to contact you for this information directly via the Forum's Private Messaging system. [i]Thanks![/i][/blue][/size]

Though you might want to give a look at some of the place's websites

[url]www.cristalmoon.com[/url]

[url]www.oasispanama.com[/url]

capriclubpanama.com

I went to La Mayor in the Chorillo area near the "El Mercado". The area is pretty rough looking, and I had heard not to go to that part of town, but I was with a Panamanian friend who told me there was no problem.

We took a taxi for $1.25 from Bella Vista. The cover is $2 per person and the price includes a ticket for a drink. There is a stage where strippers dance and we were there about an hour and only saw one bored girl dance to two songs, get naked, then leave.

There were about 20 guys seated around the stage, and several of the tables had okay looking girls sitting with the men. Most of the girls were back in a corner hidden from everyone. None of them were very attractive, but I finally picked out two I would have done.

My friend called the waiter over to verify the price $10 for 15 minutes. I then motioned to my first choice, an older Colombiana with big boobs. My friend asked the price and she said for him it was $10, but since I was an American my price would be $30. I told her "no thanks" and sat back down.

After a while I called over my second choice, but before we could talk about price my friend pointed out the first girl was yelling at a manager or something about me talking to the second girl. My friend said she was trying to cause a scene. We finished our beers and left.

I found the local girls outside the clubs to be very pretty for the most part and very happy to meet a nice American, so there's really no reason to waste your time getting ripped off at the clubs.

P.S. My Panamanian friend is willing to be a guide to the area if you need him. He speaks excellent English and Spanish and knows some good places to visit. PM me for his contact information.

Are there any good places in the Fort Clayton Area to monger on?!? I've been to the Albrook Mall a couple of times, (near by), and have gotten lucky with a couple of tourist, nothing steady. Since I'm gonna stuck in this forsaken humidor of a country for some time I wanna see what I can scrounch up near me.

[QUOTE=Bigbadvoodoo]Are there any good places in the Fort Clayton Area to monger on?!? I've been to the Albrook Mall a couple of times, (near by), and have gotten lucky with a couple of tourist, nothing steady. Since I'm gonna stuck in this forsaken humidor of a country for some time I wanna see what I can scrounch up near me.[/QUOTE]
clayton is completely out of action, is way far out of the action zones since it became a residential area with no kinds of attractions at all

Hey Fellas:

Over the weekend I decided to scout out the action in the area. With a road map in hand, (akin to the place-mat map to the attractions you get @ Disney, best I could get my hand on!), I drove out to the Dorado area. From what I saw, this is a pretty commercial/residential area, lots of strip malls and apt. bldgs. and even a mall, (Dorado). I stroke gold when I found a TGI Fridays, maybe 3 or 4 blocks down the street from the above mentioned mall. As per the yellow pages, I was looking for an Oriental MP in the mall so I parked and walked around for a while with no luck. I did see something like 3 casinos in or around Dorado, the action inside was depressing to say the least, mostly man and old looking broads playing ****. I kept exploring and lo & behold, I stumbled into Club Miami, which is in a strip mall adjacent to Dorado. This joint is a whole in the wall with airs of a second-rate Déjà-Vu’s state side. There were like 10 chicks working, nothing above an 8 in my scale, (I did enjoy the sexy uniform/outfits all the chicks have to wear, nice touch). I got myself a beer and set out to check the dynamics of the place. I was on my second round when the *****s started buzzing around. Some were a little flabby and or silicone stuffed. To make it short, I finally spotted a thin & firm pharmacy blonde from Colombia. I switched to hard liquor and got the ho a couple of shots. She quoted me the house rates, $100.00+ not including her tip. Heeding to the conventional wisdom, I tried to set something up outside the club in her off hours but she wouldn’t have it. Getting sick of this skank I told her to beat it and picked up my head looking for another one. She caught on and undid the zipper on my shorts and started tugging at my johnson, amateurish and sloppy. WTF, I was getting worked up so I decided to clean the pipes. I paid $50.00 and went in the back. The BBBJ was a little to enthusiastic, her attempts at deep-throating was a little toothy where I had to nudge her off a couple of times. The CIM completed I left. I was in the mood for some eats and spotted what I thought was a Greek restaurant, Nicos, well suffice it to say, it ain’t Greek and don’t bother with their gyro. Cheap though! I got back to my car and drove around a bit more. Across from Dorado, you have to cross a street called DEADMAN’S TOMB, (really), there’s like 4 or 5 strip malls right next to each other, I figured I would do a little shopping and I hit upon Golden Times. From what I read here, I figured this joint was downtown, so maybe this is 2nd location, I like the area, so I’m going to check it out this week. I’ll report soon.

Bigbadvoodoo, a sailor in U.S. navy once asked me to translate for him. He was trying to get a chica in Miami to meet him the next day for $50. I gave it my best try, honest I did, but she didn't want to do it. The guy was young and handsome, but didn't speak a word of Spanish. A couple of hours later she talked me into going to the backroom with her. We clicked fairly well, and she wanted to see me the next day, for free. I'm not young or handsome, so hell if I know why. Maybe after she spent time with me she figured I wasn't going to hurt her in the sack -- they don't call me Tiny for nothing.

I think setting up something for after hours at Elite and Le Palace is a lot more common than Miami. This is because it will cost you $300+ if you deal with the house, compared to less than $100 at Miami. So maybe it's best at Miami to go ahead and take her to the back room, and then if you click set up something for the next day.

I've seen a couple of those casinos and wondered about checking them out for females. Thanks, I won't waste my time.

Whats up everyone,
Not that you guys care, that I have not posted in a while, BUT I have been spending my time at La Mayor and the 2 spots next to it. I actually found, early evening, from about 630pm to about 10pm you get a wide selection there. As opposed to going extremely late at night. Anyhow, just dropping my one cent, letting everyone know im still here.

Free

I decided to check out the call-a-***** ads in the local papers. There are two types of ads, masages y acompañantes, that’s masseuses & escorts. The former quote low ball rates that do not include the tip and the later quote a fix rate for full service but no massage. Initially, I called like 8 different numbers to get an idea for the prices and services, (heads up cause some of this bastards run two or three ads all with different numbers but the same booker). To me this is a turn-on, I like hearing about the *****s on duty, descriptions, etc. So I expanded my search to include at least 7 more services both from the paper and the yellow pages. I finally narrowed down my search to this one service called Hawaii… something or other; the fella on the phone spoke reasonably good English and answered all my questions, when I asked about the chicks, he gave me descriptions and impressions. He even asked for my email addy to send me jpegs of the chicks. I’m thinking, hey he goes through the trouble of shooting me an email, no bait & switch to worry about. So, we agreed on a dirty blonde panamanian, 5’6”, 110 lbs with 36Cs & green eyes with all three inputs available. That’s who showed up except; the green eyes where emerald green contacts, the 110 lbs came stretch marks that went down to her frigging knees and the tits…OMG...the tits where fake, but the worst fakes you’ve never seen. I’m talking, lop-sided, super stretched, hard as rocks and no kidding “angles”.

The service was thorough but somewhat by the numbers. After the first deposit she went down on me again but I couldn’t get over the stretch marks so I dismissed her and called her cab. Call it a learning experience, avoid the call-a-***** scams.

[QUOTE=Bigbadvoodoo]hey he goes through the trouble of shooting me an email, no bait & switch to worry about. .[/QUOTE]
you can do the board a big favor if you post the pics that were sent to you!

I cant get the pic to attach.

I recieved this info from my novia in Colombia who is an ex Life Girls employee. She is in contact with some other girls who work there.

Apparently they have changed their policy. There is now a $15 door charge. Not sure if this includes men's drinks or not. There is no on-site sex available. They have closed thier back rooms. Girls are only available for take out at house rates. ( of course there is always the ability to negotiate for after hours or next day).

If the above is accurate I would take this place off my recommend list. The value for money is not there. If anyone on site wants to take one for the team and verify or get more info please let us know.

Landing in Panama this Wednesday for two weeks with a brief visit to Pereria thown in.

Staying at the Veneto this time because the El Panama was too much hassle in March. One night the wardens even hid behind the bushes near the poolside cabanas!

I told him to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off but who needs the hassle when after moving to the Veneto there no problems what so ever.

I want like to try to find some knockouts this visit ( the average chica from the casinos,habanos ,street generally are not what I aspire to when I am sitting in my office in England.)...so if anybody wants company over the next couple of weeks in order to track down some real sweethearts get in touch.

Just a story of how I got caught by a nasty Dominican in March. The experience was going tits up(no pun intended) and I told her to go. The cow went on a "where's mi panties" charade during which she lifted my cd player

Just a little heads up if you hear those words.

[QUOTE=Tunstall]during which she lifted my cd player[/QUOTE]

I just got off the phone with my bank disputing a charge because it seems someone at a hotel in which I stayed in Panama City copied my credit card number and made fraudulent charges.

I had a good time in Panama, but after experiencing the "gringo tax" and now the credit card ripoff it's highly unlikely I'll ever bother visiting again.

Say fellas. Im considering a trip to PC.I have a thing for brown to black skin ie Dominicans Brazilians.What is the likelyhood of me finding what Im looking for there? Where are they? I know many black Panamanians here in the states but I never see any pics of em here. Preciate the help guys.

Given what appears to be rather high prices in Panama, why don't you go to the DR to get Dominican girls and be satisfied vs. fishing for a long shot at a high cost there?

You can find about what you want as far as nationality of ladies in Panama. I smile as I read some of the reports of the prices people are paying. They must work overtime trying to get taken. I have been to Panama over 30 times in 3 years. It is no different than the rest of the world. There are those that are out to take you from the get go, those who take you only because the opportunity arises and those who are honest. Read the board and you already know which places are the most expensive. What makes you think that they are going to lower there prices just for you--they won't, just don't go there. If no one is willing to pay those rediculous prices, they will drop. There are always going to be those who will though. Learn a little spanish and then get out away from the "clubs" and just start talking to people. They are interested in you anyway and will be more than happy to talk to you. You have a distinct advantage. Don't be afraid to walk away a time or 2. There are so many beautiful women there that unless you are a total jerk you will leave with a smile on your face. There are many $20 opportunities there. Think of it as the hunt and search them out. It is half of the fun. If not go to LaMayor or one of the other cheaper places. There are 4-5 dominicanas there.

Because I WANT TO GO TO PANAMA.Aside from the women I'm considering purchasing some land there.Let me state again. I am looking for BLACK PANAMANIANS.I'm not looking for Dominicans or Brazilians or various nationalities, but darker women of this complexion. Been to the DR a time to many and need a new drug so to speak.Thanks for the insight. I figure that most of the guys here pay these obscene amounts for either lack of knowledge or just "convience". To me there is nothing convient aboout partingt w 100$ for a 33$ party. Thanks gents!

Hello mate.
Yes, you can find black girls in Panama in abundance.
Best way, as it has been recommended already, try to hook with non-pro's in bars and clubs.
Just be nice, smart chat, and they will be eating out of the palm of your hand.

About your land investment... what exactly are you looking for? Beach, Agriculture, Development?

Cheers and have fun.
LatinBull.

Curry,

I myself am also very fond of the black chics here in Panama (I live here in Panama City). PM me your contact info so I can give you the low down on the scene here.

Free

Coming into PC next month and staying at VENETO, read most the reports and it looks like the pickings are good. Was wondering who has used the OASIS Club? I see that it is close to the VENETO and am wondering if it is worth the money? Any info would be great, will post a full report when I get back.

Hi everyone, can anyone tell me if "La palace" is a good club. Just is I have a girlfriend soon to be working there.
Thanks

Fat Fax

Oasis is basically right next to Veneto. It is basically an MP but they do offer outcall service. I have only used the MP service. The costs vary on the time of day and possibly a coupon on their site. They do not have more than a handful of girls working at any time so your selection is limited. I went there once and had a good experience. The rooms have a real bed and mirrors. Overall thought I am not into the MP experience.

Buck

There are several reports on LePalace. It is one of the upscale clubs. No onsite sex. Take out at club rates or negotiate for later dates. I hope your girlfriend doesn't meet a big spender and forget about you.

Travlr

This is a report one week ago from panama where i had to use oasis service. It was incal l in my hotel and the prices are what is mentionned on the website , in 2 cases only one shot , extra requested for a second one.

I met the second day Lina , hot and pretty GFE . We had a common shower, and many sex time , enjoy

The times I've been there, there weren't very many men buying table dances. Or drinks for the women. Typically you'll see more women in groups than sitting with men. The fee if you take a woman out from the club is ridiculously high, but management appears to have no problem with the women setting up dates for after hours for the next day. This would lead me to believe that the women there are making most of their money by after hours dates. I could definitely see how a woman working in Elite could survive on lady drinks and dances. But not in Le Palace.

The good news is that your girlfriend probably won't be getting banged several times a day. The bad news is she probably will be getting banged. Reglr Travlr is right, any customer that drags a woman out, especially during working hours, is a big spender. You'll pay 3X there what you'd pay at Golden Time, if you pay the club fee. And I think the average woman at GT is better looking.

Thanks a lot guys,
Well the situation is this, I met this colombian 3 years ago while I was fooling in Ecuador, I banged her a couple of times, however we became friends on long distance, I returned back to Canada and she to colombia, we always maintain comunication by phone and emails.
I'll say her looks are 9, six months ago she had breast implants, She's always telling me everything she does and goes, it's some kind of trust , I don't know,
After Ecuador she worked in the business in Aruba, Curacao , Bonaire , we used to talk by phone once in a while, however we never discuss her job , but it looks like she did pretty good to have implants and send money to her native Colombia to renovate her home.
Now, a few weeks ago she told me she's heading to Panama, Right on! I think with some friends. Shes'a arriving this week ,I think friday , she told me she will be at the "Le Palace", she will send me her phone number and location to my email once she gets there
So my plans have changed, instead of heading to Costa Rica(my fifth time) I'll be arriving in Panama August 1, first time for me, so if anyone wants to show let me know.
Any suggestions I'll appreciate.

Hola,

It is Friday night July 21 here in panama city. Sorry no caps.

Anyone around meet me in the lounge up above the bar area. In back of the bar by the rail from 9pm till 10 pm tonight, and I will buy you a couple of drinks. Tonight. Going to meet jim be tomorrow night at the veneto casino front desk at 6 pm. But just hanging out tonight by myself. And its Friday.

Lets party. Stevewxly

Ps the Panama forum is pretty loney. No reports or action going on here. Everybody must be in Costa Rica. LOL.

Steve

Hey guys,

On my last report. I met to say the Fiesta Casino, not the Fenix Casino. Meet for a drink and check out the Chicas between 9PM and 10PM right in back of the front bar. Up on the railing. Where the Chicas hang out.

If not there then tomorrow night Saturday 7/22/06 between 6 and 6: 30PM at Veneto Casino at the front desk in the lobby. We will celebrate the independence of Texas, and the 4th of July. Belated.

Steve

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]The times I've been there, there weren't very many men buying table dances. Or drinks for the women. Typically you'll see more women in groups than sitting with men. [/QUOTE]

the girls at le palace are ice hardened pros. they wouldnt look at you unless they smell that major money can be coarced out of your pocket. They wouldnt even try to break the ice, as opposed to elite were at least the girls will try(some) to make some chit chat with you before trying to get you to buy drinks/dances for her

As usual Gaunt knows his shit, them babes in le palace are for real pros, as with most, NOT all colombianas here in panama.

Free

Jim,

I Don't Have Your User Name So Cant Pm You.

My Plans Changed Over The Weekend So I Did Not Meet You At The Veneto In Panama City As Planned.

I Did Go There Twice To Check If You Had Checked Into The Hotel, And They Said They Did Not Have Any Information On You.

Guess We Will Have To Hook Up Later.

I Have Been On The Bus All Day Today, Sunday, And Am In San Jose Cr Now. Jaco Beach Tomorrow.

Steve

HI guys, Two questions

1) What are the odds of winning money in slot machines in the Panama casinos and is the winning big?

2) Is it recomended to rent a car in Panama, Is it safe driving? Is it better than driving in Costa Rica?


Thank you

1. hell if i know. respectfully, pumping money into slot machines in panama is not a good strategy for increasing your wealth. and that's being kind.

2. this i do know something about. if you are going to be spending your time in panama city, do not rent. taxis are cheap. the drivers are crazy, and most of the cars have dings. it's often difficult to find or get to where you want to go. on several occasions, i've paid taxi drivers to let me follow them in my rent car to my destination. when i'm in the city i prefer to leave the car in the hotel lot and take cabs. the only reason i can think of to have a car is to better utilize the love hotels.

however, if you are going to leave the city, i would rent if it doesn't break your budget. it beats taking the bus. i have rented from hertz and avis on multiple occasions, and hertz has been much more reliable. i'll happily pay a premium for hertz. make sure you've got a good spare tire and a jack. the panamerican highway has a ton of pot holes, and is hell on tires. pay attention to the speed limit. this is particularly important if you have a colombian hooker with an expired visa with you, as the police may check her papers if you're stopped. i've spent a grand total of maybe 2 months in panama, and have gotten stopped by the traffic police for speeding maybe 5 times. i haven't gotten stopped once in the u.s. in the last 5 years.

to answer your questions, my experience driving in rural panama was about like costa rica, only with more potholes in panama, and i think it's relatively safe if you're careful -- not as safe as the u.s. though.

Thanks Tiny; I use to be a slot machine addict, playing 1, 2, and five dollar machines, many times 10 dollars a pool, any way I'll keep in mind your advise
Got your drift on the rent a car deals.
I'll be in Panama next week.

[QUOTE=Trottle Buck]Is it recomended to rent a car in Panama, Is it safe driving?[/QUOTE]

Easily the most aggressive driving I've ever seen. I wouldn't drive a stolen car in Panama City.

You will be safer in a taxi, and the drivers know all sorts of things you might find useful on a mongering trip.

I got some news on the club Le Palace, well it seems this is how it works:

They hire any girl with good looks between 8 to 10, they make them sign a contract for a minimum of 3 months, the funny thing is they make them pay for that contract $USD 1000 for those 3 months.
No wonder they want to rip off customers charging excessively.
Fuck that club, I'll be a night there and have a drink and thats it.

Gentlemen,

I'm only 5 weeks away from my visit to Panama and this thread is DEAD.

I read in another thread that there is a new $20 USD "chica fee" in Venetto. I plan to stay at el Panama but I thought I share this information for those of you doing your research.

Any stories, pictures, updates will be much appreciated as I get ready to go!

Fernand0

Just back from a two week trip to Panama and Costa Rica. I need to rest up from the trip before typing and adding reports for my trip.

I have what I think are some intersting insights about Central America that I wish to contribute. But need a day or so to 'clear my head' before posting.

I met a very nice and likable fellow last week in San Jose who told me that he on several occasions had three girls at one time while in Jaco Beach. Paying each of them $100. 00 a piece for their company.

That is all well and good, but for me out of the question. Because I am simply not that wealthy.

I did have two gals once on this trip and paid them $50. 00 each for a couple of hours. So I am not all that cheap. But again I do try to watch my expenses. So that I can stay longer and be able to experience more while still paying less for the priviledge.

Like the working girls in Cen. America. Who all want 'Cien". $ 100. 00 to 'do the deal'. Many of them go home each night with nothing - "nada". While others who are willing to offer themselves for a less, and are willing to take $40. Or $50. 00. Can still maintain and pay their bills when they will "work" for less. It's good to remember that there is a lot of competition in the marketplace. And if one prices himself or herself out of the market. Then one may not be able to make 'ends meet', when all is said and done.

My two week trip to Central America cost me in excess of $1800. 00 - perhaps more like $2000. 00. So there is not that much left in my "kitty". For now.

Stevewxly

Le Palace

I visited Le Palace on the 11th of July. Just got around to posting my experience today.
When I was there with some friends, there weren’t many men ( about 14)but there were about 30 fit women and more arriving as the night went on. My girl of choice for the evening was a fit and fun Columbian girl from Cali called Isabella .She was great fun, you could kiss and feel as much as you liked, provided you kept buying drinks on a regular basis. Full contact table dances were on offer.. The fee to take her out from the club was ridiculously high (she wanted $300) so I passed on takeout and just enjoyed the dry Fuck, She wanted to set up a private meeting for the next day at my hotel for $100 but I was leaving back to the England
Don’t go to these places early as not much gets going before 11pm

[QUOTE=Fernand0]Gentlemen,

I'm only 5 weeks away from my visit to Panama and this thread is DEAD.

I read in another thread that there is a new $20 USD "chica fee" in Venetto. I plan to stay at el Panama but I thought I share this information for those of you doing your research.

Any stories, pictures, updates will be much appreciated as I get ready to go!

Fernand0[/QUOTE]

that would the price for SW in that area, be mindful!! you have to at least decent spanish skills and very good bargaining skill, as as soon as they smell that you're not a national, they gonna want you to pay at least $50, Also take as lately many TS are in the area, at long range they might look hot, but when scanned on closer range sensors, they show out their roots!!

I saw the security checking all of the girls before they allowed girls to go upstairs to the casino at Veneto. I did not find a single hooker in the casino 3 weeks ago. Appears to have been cleaned up.

I took a girl from Habanos, negotiated rate of $150 for todo la noches. She was Colombian, like all the other girls there. In the room I discovered her silicone tits, and demanding nature. She demanded all the money up front. I said no. After a long cold argument I told her to leave. Finally we agreed on half up front, half in the morning - always a mistake. I fucked her and fucked her, but could not pop. I got fed up with her cell phone talk. I raised my voice to her and told her to get out. She left with only the $75. All the girls at Habanos say $70 minimum. There is no negotiation, like others of you agreed. They have a union pact and all Colomiban pussy there. Some were nice lookers, 8-9 in looks. Most were sharks in attitude, non seemed worth it.

I did enjoy Club Oasis with the $50 noon special. It was great because the girls had fresh pussy instead of pussy already fucked in. There I enjoyed 2 fresh pussied Colombian girls with GFEs.

When I got back to the states I received an email from the 2d hot Colombian girl, I will provide her email address here for any of you guys that are interested in sending me a PM.

Too humid to return to Panama. Not much to see outside of the city. Without the pussy it was BORING, man.

I recently returned from a 2 week trip to Panama and Costa Rica.

Here is my segment for Panama:

I flew into Panama City from Atlanta on Delta Airlines. I had previously made a reservation for my first night in Panama City at the Hotel Marparaiso because they simply have the best deal going in PTY - in my opinion. And that is when you make a reservation ($22. 00 for a single room, with A/C, hot water, color TV, double bed, etc.) they will pick you up at the Airport for FREE. Normal taxi charge for this trip is about $ 27-28. 00 into town. So that is a real good deal.

I did this, and sure enough, when I walked out to the street from the airport in PTY there was a guy with my name on his Hotel Marparaiso card. We picked up one other passenger and headed for town. And again guys this is a a free ride.

This hotel has about 50-60 rooms, was in a nice neighborhood, well appointed, everything nice and clean, with a restaurant, and all in all a real good experience. Next time I go back to Panama City. I plan to do exactly the same ......stay at least my first night at the Hotel Marparaiso - to get the free shuttle from the airport to town (Panama City).

Next night I opted to move over to the Hotel Latino. My old haunt. $ 20. 00 rooms, swimming pool, no chica fees, restaurant, A/C and the whole smere.

If you want to find a little action, and don't know the city or where to go,then simply ask for Javier, one of the knowledgeable taxi drivers who hangs around this hotel, he will drive you anywhere for a reasonable price, and will also turn you on to some of the working girls who are living or staying around this neighborhood.
I never gave him any money for this service, as pimping is illegal in most of the Cen. American countries. But he will line them up for you and arrange for them to meet you in the small lobby of the hotel. There is also 24 hour staff at the front desk, and they (Marisa and the other desk clerks ) never, never say anything to you about bringing any of the girls up to your room or to take them to the pool, or anything. And that is a very nice touch, as I surely don't like to be hasseled by the hotel staff about Chicas coming over, and I also do not like to pay anything extra in the way of a Chica fee - which many of the hotels have now gone to.

Javier found a very nice young Colombiana for me named Jenny. Just as sweet and loving as she could be, and also very accomadating too, and about an 6 or 7 in looks and figure. ((( There are better looking ones to be had for sure, but seems like those are the ones who are stuck at 'Cien' - or $ 100.00, and I simply won't pay that much to get 'laid' anywhere. )))

Jenny stays just around the corner from this hotel in one of the Residential Habitiones (sp) places. Espanol for small hotels or rooming houses available either by the hour or for the whole night. I believe the rooms there were about $ 8-10. 00 per night. And many, many of the girls from out of town stay in this type of place. And I suppose if your budget ditated it, you could also stay there......if you were trying to save some $$$$ on hotels.
You would not have to look very far or hard to find an available Chica - if you did. There is also a local Tico type bar next door to this place which looks like it would have a few working girls say around 10-11 or 12 midnight.

There is also another Residentual Hotel place right next door to the Hotel Latino, with airconditioned rooms for $ 5. 00 per hour. Perfect for bringing a Chica. If say your larger hotel does not allow visitors. Which many do not. I stayed before in the La Costa Inn in PTY. A nice hotel with very small rooms, and also. No visitors allowed.

I of course went to the Veneto Casino, and also the Fiesta Casino. I like the 1 penny slot machines there, as you can play for perhaps an hour or so for a buck, and get free drinks too. There are many, many independent girls working out of these two casinos. Most of the ones I talked to were from Colombia. Some real winners, 8's; 9's and perhaps even a 10 or too. At times. It's not hard to spot them either. Just keep your eyes open and you will see working gals all over the place. Chat them up a bit, and you can be off to your hotel in a taxi in just a few minutes with a nice Chica on your arm. Usually for around $ 40. 00 per hour. Which seems to be the going rate. During the 'green season'.

I am planning on retirement within the next year in either Costa Rica or Panama. And was looking for a suitable place to land. Find an apartment or small house. My last day in town (actually I was in Panama City the week before. Then to Costa Rica. Then back to Panama City) I rented a car from Her-z. Fill in the blanks. I was not impressed with this company. They are rather high priced, but I got them to let me have a economy car for $ 17. 95 a day, plus $12. 00 manatory insurance, plus unbeknownest to me beforehand. An $8. 00 dropoff fee to leave the car at the airport the next day. So all total $ 39. 95 a day for the car plus I burned about $ 25. 00 in gas going out to the beaches at Punta Chame; Coronado, San Carlos, another one or two that I can't remember, and then finally turning around at Rio Hato.

What I found was very small beach towns, no action to speak of, and mostly all the beaches were pretty much privately controlled by very wealthy folks with the big homes in the 1 to 2 millon dollar range, and they had most all the access roads to the beaches marked 'private property - no access'.

So I did not find a single place that I could 'call home' or anything that looked at all promising for me. And I drove almost 100 miles North of Panama City in search of a place to rent. It looks like if it's going to be Panama for me, then I will need to make yet another trip for more looking around, or just hang it up and live in downtown Panama City with all the rest of the folks who are there now.

I really like the beach areas better than the cities, and I particullary wanted to have a good sized boat there for fishing in the Pacific. But.

Shopping: A note here on shopping in the Zona Libre - the Free Zone in Colon. Yes they have pretty much everything you would ever want there. But case in point. I had seen on a previous trip a China-made 125cc small motorcycle for only $500. 00. I went there my first day in town thinking that I would be able to buy one of these bikes and then be able to use it to tour around Panama for 8-10 days.

No such luck. By the time they added in the cost of the paperwork, and the taxes (and I thought the whole idea of the Free Zone - was that there were not supposed to be any taxes), then I was looking at plunking down in excess of $850. 00 for this bike. (((Although admittidly, this very same bike is going for over $ 1, 000. 00 with all necessary paperwork to be legal in San Jose CR.))) I simply said, "no thanks", and went on my way.

I have heard it said that Panama is 15 to 20 years behind Costa Rica in the tourist industry. And I pretty much believe that now. It seems to me that prices are cheaper in Panama than Costa Rica. You will get more 'bang for your buck' almost anywhere in Panama now than anywhere similar in Costa Rica.

For example: Dinner At Pizza Hut: A small pizza, salad, and a coke in a San Jose CR Pizza Hut cost me over $ 13. 00 for the meal. Same exact meal in Panama City cost me exactly $ 4. 10. You be the judge. They are doing this in Costa Rica now, because they have learned to do it, and they know that most Gringo's won't even notice or care, one way or the other. Going price for a Coca-Cola in CR is 500 colones, or $ 1. 00. They are 50 cents or less - all over Panama.

My personal daily expenses were around $ 125. 00 per day, (excluding my airfair) and I stayed 2 weeks on this trip. So I dropped a pretty good bunch of change.

I know many, many other Gringo's (with much deeper pockets than mine) are probably spending 2 to 3 or 4 times that amount per day. Especially if they are frequent guests at the Del Rey Hotel in San Jose adding up a Chica or two everyday, plus hotel, plus food, plus drinks, plus a little gambling, etc.

So it's not particullary cheap to go to Central America anymore. But then again if you can't afford it, then you better stay home in the US, and save your dough.

I went again to David, Panama via Air Panama out of PTY. I found out that if you look old enough (like at or around 60 years of age) that you can tell the clerks at the airport. That you would like to get the Pensionado or reduced senior citizen price. I have done this twice and got my ticket of $ 72. 00 reduced to only $ 49. 00 from PTY to David. Also did it in San Jose CR going back to Panama City and got the reg. Fare price of $ 144. 00 adjusted to $ 106. 00 simply by asking for it.

They want to see your Pensionado card. Which of course, I did not have, but if you will smooze a bit and use a soft non-threating tone of voice (don't come off as a typical Ugly American) this can go a long, long way in helping you get the 'best deals in Central America' or anywhere for that matter.

Trust me, this will not work with any of the major US carriers like Delta, American Airlines, or Soutwest Air, etc. As I have tried it to no avail with them.

David Panama is a petty nice town. I only wish it was closer to a more developed, and good beach. It's really only about 20 miles or so to the Pacific from David, but when you get there - 'there ain't nothing there'except a brackish river that flows into the Pacific, and little else.

Club Esmeralda in David, is a pretty good local Tico type of night club. I was there on two separate occasions on this trip and there were about 12-13 gals working from 8 PM until 3 AM. Sometimes until 5 AM. On weekends,

There were a few in the 6-7 range. But no real 'stunners' this time. But for only $ 10. 00 for 10 minutes - you can get a massage, or BJ or sex in the girls room in the back, and it is hard to beat this deal. $20. Or $30. 00 will get you more time of course, and then it's nice to give your gal a small propena -tip when you leave. They will also come with you at your request at anytime during the evening to your hotel but you have to pay the barman a $40. 00 bar fine for this. Plus then the girl will usually want from $ 40-to $50. 00 too.

Best deal is to have them drop by your hotel during the daytime, say around 2-3 PM for an 'afternooner' and then there is no extra $40. Barfine.

There are a couple of other night clubs in David, but one is so expensive that I do not recommend it, and the other is way out in the 'sticks' and you won't find anything worthwile there at all except a few old, well past-their-prime putas that should have perhaps retired from the profession 10-12 years ago.

White Horse is the name of the pricey club, and I believe the other one (low end one) is call Paradise.

If you can find and hook up with David's # 1 proponent - Dr. Don - aka - Want To Play- on this forum, then he will steer you onto some real good things in the David area. He is a very frequent visitor, and knows pretty much all the good 'shit going on' in David. He also is a very busy guy, and hard to find at times.

One last note about Panama. I have yet to visit the Bocas del Toro area of Panama, and believe that that is where I should go next to see if I can find suitable digs' for me.

Anyone reading this report with experience in the Bocas del Toro area, please PM me, and clue me in on what is going on in that area.

Pura Vida.

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...to know when in Panama City.
La Bodeguita
Pilatvs
Boleros

These are discos, so you will find working and NON working girls.
Not a problem for the trained eye as it is very easy to tell the difference.

La Bodeguita and Pilatvs, are in calle Uruguay. Openned every day.
I spoted on tuesday Working girls from Habano's.

Boleros is in 42nd street Bella Vista. Just for Thursdays to Saturdays.

Cheers.
LatinBull.

Below is a report from a recent 3 day trip to Panama City:

Hotel:
Stayed at the Hotel Montreal. The hotel is nothing fancy, but very economical running about $27 per night. No chica fee. They also have a little bar and restaurant. I ate there one night and the food was good.

Massage:
Oasis- Very close to the Venito casino. All colombians. I wound up visiting on Sunday night and only about 5 girls there.

Golden Times- Also visited on a Sunday night, and they had close to 20 girls in there. All colombia. Not bad looking girls, so you should find what you are looking for.

Discos:
Exit Disco- Cost $15 to get in. Very popular on the weekends, but too crowded and loud for me to pick up anything there. There are girls waiting outside that look like they want someone to pay their entarnce fee. Non pros can be had at this place if you can speak spanish.

Bodeguita- I would recommend this place. Mixture of pros and non pros. Also mixture of panamanian and colombian. No cover fee.

Moods- $10 cover. Lots of non pros in this place. Good for eyecandy, but I would still recommend the cheaper option Bodeguita for picking up girls.

Strip clubs:

La Palace- It cost $7 a beer, but you get a chance to look at some hot colombians in there.

Elite- $25 cover fee, but all you can drink. Another place that has some hot colombians.

Bars:

Habanos- Across the street from Marriott. Great place to have a cigar and speak with pros roaming around in the area. Perfect place to start the night.

Un-Plugged- I really like this place. It's on Calle Uruguay up the street from Bodeguita. This is set up as a rock and roll bar with album covers from the 70's all over the walls.

There is also a bar across the street from Moods that is pretty good. Plays alot of 80's music on the weekends, and has a band. There are many bars in this area that I did not have time to explore.

The asking price seems to be set at $100 for around two hours. I usually negotiated down to around $80, but it takes some good conversation. In LaPalace and Elite, the going rate seems to be stuck at $200. It will cost you around $300 if you try to take them out of the club. You're better off trying to find a quality colombians just roamimg around habanos or venito casino.

Taxis will run you $2. It is very hot during the day, so taxis are conveinent.

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Ok,

Habanos is located right across the street from the Marriot hotel. As Cattinc said GREAT place to start the evening. I met a nice babe named Maria, great ass, nice fake tits, all around nice personality. Sex was a 6.5 at best, not rushed or anything, she just wasnt wet enough for me. Body was about an 8 though.
I would suggest you go to Habanos at the start of your evening and get a few cell phone numbers of the babes. Later after you are done drinking, partying in the non pro spots (if thats your thing) etc, call them later and pitch them on a price. I started at $25 and we eventually settled at $40. And as im sure everyone knows, having a decent knowledge of spanish along with being SOMEWHAT (not a total simp) of a nice guy, can go a long way.

Free

I Will Be The First Of Three Senior Mongers Arriving By Less Than 24 Hours. You Pananma Veterans Please Email Or Pm Me A Few Nice Quality Contacts With Photos, "pretty Please". Its Nice To Have A Trophy On Your Arm When The Others Drop In. I Promise To Return The Favor In Another Country When I Can.

Sorry For The Caps, It Won't Happen Again, I Was Eating Pizza With One Hand!

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For someone studying architecture, these are wonderfull photos. But none of these buildings can suck my dick, or take it up the ass.(LOL)

Yes i can read the reports here. Matter of fact i have printed a map of downtown and flaged each location highlighting each by time of day and day of the week that i should try each. I want some pictures of hot chicas and contact numbers to go with the photos. Something to get me started. I know you guys are holding back. Well the rainy day is here, and my umbrella is full of holes! H E L P M E P L E A S E ! !

Fantasy,

Sorry to disapoint you, but I don´t think that you will find hot pictures and phone numbers posted on the web like in other countries. The closest thing for that is [url]www.elcomplaciente.com[/url], but that service has not received many favorable reviews (if any).

I once explored with the idea of creating such a website. However, when I went searching for advertisers, I was surprised at the resistance of getting their pictures posted on the web. (Aside from the point that the law wasn´t absolutely clear on whether what I wanted to do was legal or not).

Enjoy your time in Panama.

I'll be making my first trip to PTY and plan on spending 3-4 nights at a good, well located hotel with an in room safe. I'm looking at Veneto, El Panama, Marriott. I would like the Courtyard but I have read its farther from the action. If anyone knows how to get rooms at these places at lower prices, I would appreciate any links. I also wanted to know if I'll have trouble bringing guests to my room if I choose Veneto. I have read conflicting reports here about the girl friendliness of these places. Also, is walking safe in the Veneto/El Panama area. This issue has not been addresses in the forum in the past few months.

Thanks for any help

You may consider the Crown Plaza (.[url]http://www.ichotelsgroup.com/h/d/pc/1/en/hd/panhb[/url]). It's next to Hotel Panama and Venneto and a very short walk to where all the action is. During my stay, I kept my bussiness on the low, so I was not bothered taking anyone to my room. It is quite safe to walk around those areas. There is always going to be someone looking for a handout; just mean what you say, keep walking and ignoring the pleas at night. All these places have highly visible security, so you will feel safe even walking around nearby.

[QUOTE=jimbehr2000]I'll be making my first trip to PTY and plan on spending 3-4 nights at a good, well located hotel with an in room safe. I'm looking at Veneto, El Panama, Marriott. I would like the Courtyard but I have read its farther from the action. If anyone knows how to get rooms at these places at lower prices, I would appreciate any links. I also wanted to know if I'll have trouble bringing guests to my room if I choose Veneto. I have read conflicting reports here about the girl friendliness of these places. Also, is walking safe in the Veneto/El Panama area. This issue has not been addresses in the forum in the past few months.

Thanks for any help[/QUOTE]

I don't have answers for everything you ask but here's what I know.

The Courtyard is definitely away from the action, but a cheap taxi ride.

No problem bringing girls into the Marriott. Just remember that you are in a nice hotel where most of the guest are there for other business. Act accordingly.

Read Spidermonkeys reports on guest fees at El Panama. He made "friends" with the security guards.

I am interested in what is going on now at Veneto. I don't have recent info.

Read my reports from last November. I felt very safe walking around as late as 5:00 in the morning in the areas you described. Just don't flash cash or a lot of jewelry. Walk confidenly and you will have no problem.

Enjoy

RT

Free here,

I stayed in the Veneto last week for 4 days. I had some friends here so I was in and out the hotel and arranged everything for them. Ok, this is for everyone here but lets try to keep it in the family.

Getting a discount room at the Veneto hotel:

Call the hotel and tell them that you need to speak to the manager of reservations. I knew her name but it was WAY to hard to pronounce or remember, but she does speak english. Tell her you have an extremely important client coming to town and that you have a corp and business here in panama. She will ask you the name of the guest, dates etc. I did that very thing, and was able to get a per day rate of 89 bucks when normally I think the veneto is about 140ish per night. Obviously I am not saying this is a for sure thing, but it worked for me and someone else I know.

Do not stay at the Courtyard its not "way out" but you are better off at the Veneto, El panama, Crowne plaza. You can walk around, just use common sense, and the Veneto is girl friendly, as least everytime I have stayed there. Dont know about the others.

Free

Call the hotel and ask for the casino rate; it is $70.00 plus 10% tax for a grand total of $77 per night. Beats paying $140.00 per night.

Hotel is loaded with working girls in the casino.

TLN chicas from $70 to $100, many 8's, 9's and a few 10's.

Hotel is chica friendly, zero problem.

Area is totally safe, day and night.

Hotel is walking distance to almost everything one could want.

Thanks for the many quality responses. I'll either do Crowne Plaza or Veneto. Veneto has a web rate of $95 incl. breakfast so that may be hard to beat. They also have a U.S. phone number so I'll look into the casino rate. If I get the casino rate but don't gamble too much they won't jack the rates up high when I check out will they?

This is my first Central America trip but I am experienced at this game. I'm planning 3 nights in San Jose, 2 in Jaco and then 4 in Panama City. I'm starting to wonder if I should try to squeeze in a couple of nights in Cartagena since its only a 1 hour flight from PTY. Any opinions?

After reading back about 15 pages in this forum, I have a hunch I'm going to like the mongering scene in PTY far more than Costa Rica. Thanks again.

Well , I just came back from Panama stayed for 2 weeks, mongering and boozing.

Like I said before went to meet a girlfriend from Colombia; she went with a nice friend


To begin I stayed at the Caribe hotel, the rate was 25 dollars a day not bad , Av Peru and calle 28, 9th floor with a nice view. the very same night my girl friend from colombia and her friend came to the hotel, it was very charminhg to see them again. That same night I did them both, after towards because they didn't know much about Panama I told them where to go to work, basically they where working to send some money back home, once they lost their shyness, they just went experts , and in the first 8 days they banged around 8 guys, specially meeting them in the casino areas of veneto . They where happy to have me with them, I brought them luck according to them.

Many times we slept together doing a threesome, however after a few nights, you guys won't belive it, they charged me, My own girlfriend told me to pay her. Wtf, ok it was fine for me beacuse I was getting it free, however later they ask me for threesome and money obviously...Which I turned down !

After a week we just met afternoons and night, beacuse of their sensuality and looks they started to get guys on a daily basis, basically in Habanos, royal casino, Venetos, and Fiesta casino. I was happy for them I really was , at least they were making money.
During and after them I already started mongering and banging other chics around Panama.
My "2 wifes" I used to call them, are very nice decent good girls just making a living out of whoring.

I will continue this week with some reports and pictures and phone nuimbers who ever is interested.

However after mongering in a few countries what I learned is the same as the KOS (King of ****) said, never trust these *****s, a ***** will lie , cheat, they are selfish and will do anything to get your money, Just look at me my own fucking girlfriend asking me for money jaja, although I'm fluent in English, Spanish and French . can you imagen a guy with limited speaking language, just like this italian guy who payed my girlfriend 400 dollars to take to the beach (Decameron)for 4 days and after falling in ,love , give me a break man, she tells me many things except the banging. In the end i really don't care.

Thats right gentlemen beware of these hookers, Don't ever , EVER get romanticaly involved with them they don't give a fuck if you are old or young, tall short , good looking, ugly, smelly , drunk, educated, ignorant , profesional, drug dealer, hitmen, white or black. or whatever

If these hookers come from colombia they all know them very well. Trust me they know all the tricks.

we are just walking bills for them.

l'l post tits(fake) of my girlfriend and some pussy of my second wife jaja.

I'll be posting more guys!
Have fun

More pictures please!

Thanks for the update on your trip. Perhaps Fantasy can get some of the numbers for his trophy or even a gift for another senior monger.

I once had a Colombiana tell me how this was such an easy job for them. They only have to pretend to be nice and they get treated royally. They get over the sex for money thing pretty quickly.

I really believe that Decameron makes half of their money off of mongers bringing their girls there. We need to start negotiating a special rate.

I am looking forward to your additional reports and pics.

Ok Guys here are some pictures of my two wifes. Sorry for not showing thier faces, they don't want them. Could't get any naked pictures.
Later I'll be posting some photos of other girls.

During my second day in panama, I already went knew most of the clubs , one of my first ones was Club Miami, met a nice looking colombian , I invited her a couple of drinks 20$ she wanted $100 for 1 hour. fuck that! so i left, later t I befreinded a taxi driver who drives the *****s home.
I told him to take me to the cheapest spot so we went to the chorrillo a place called La Mayor near the mercado. Oh boy the outside of the place looked like Mogadishu, a stinking old ruined place.

The inside was full of lowlifes, most of the girls were colombians 5 to 6 some old and couple of venezuelans. Any way I gave it a try fucking a 10 dollar colombian hooker,room was 4 dollars. I think she liked me gave a me a BJ like it was a lollipop. After having a couple of beers we left.


Club Miami was a rip off owned by a chinese mafia guy, who gives chinese customers preference, panaminians second and us foreigners full charged.
Unless you like to drink and fond the *****s paying them expensive drinks that's the place for you.
My advise avoid Club Miami.

La mayor was ok they have security outside for the cars, but don't ever go alone or worst walk at night, take a cab and invite the cabbi for a couple of drinks, gee even did what I did I paid the guy a hooker $16.

will continue later...
Enjoy it.

You have got me on the edge of my seat, what could possibly be more important than finishing your report! (lol)

I have to say that I think one of Bucks pictures has been taken from somewhere else. Isn't this a picture of Ford holding one of his regular girls in the DR? (DSCF0050)

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[QUOTE=Regulr Travlr]I have to say that I think one of Bucks pictures has been taken from somewhere else. Isn't this a picture of Ford holding one of his regular girls in the DR? (DSCF0050)

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What the hell! That is me! Where'd you get that picture from???

The only thing that's changed since that picture was taken is that my rheumatism has gotten better so I don't need the cane anymore. :)

Have been to Oasis twice in the last 2 days, very attractive ladies working, and the $50 lunch special is a deal with some GFE thrown in! Out of the 6 girls there, 5 were very easy on the eyes, and one was a 5.

At his finest

Ok this is Lady I met her at Habanos she's been in Panama a month . She is from Medellin Colombia, usually she is in Habanos and casino veneto. $50 for an hour. After she got greedy and ask for more money. I dumped her .
Good for sex and cute too.

A view of Panama from the Hotel Caribe

[QUOTE=Fat Fax]Have been to Oasis twice in the last 2 days, very attractive ladies working, and the $50 lunch special is a deal with some GFE thrown in! Out of the 6 girls there, 5 were very easy on the eyes, and one was a 5.[/QUOTE]That $50 lunch special includes sex or it's only massage?

Trottle Buck,

Very nice series of posts! Thank you very much for sharing your extensive picture collection with us "lowlifes"! (lol)

You definitely slept with a solid assortment of pretty women, and I especially like the fact that you seemed to be very focused on not overpaying and ruining the girls for the rest of us!

Nice job! I'm happy you had a good trip. :)

cheers..............

The lunch special includes everything for $50, and the girls don't even bother you for a tip. Very good deal. Staying at the Veneto, the Casino area appears to have some ladies working, but not as many as I was expecting. Lots of security in the area, and the ladies are not being forward. Anyone know the deal?

I'm a non-Spanish speaker making my first Panama trip next month. Fat Fax, you bring up the subject of tipping. Habanos, Veneto, Oasis, and Golden Times are places I plan to visit. Is tipping expected or do girls ask for a tip at these places? If anyone has any comments about tipping, please share your views.

I gladly tip if its expected or appropriate, but I don't want to drive prices up unnecessarily.

Thanks

P.S. If there are any "can't miss" places to visit not mentioned above feel free to list them.

Thanks for the complements Ford


My daily night rutine was Havanos, Casino Veneto, and Club Capri.
I found Capri a nice place and cheap the variety of girls were awesome. I fucked 4 girls down there $36 for 20 minutes to half hour, panamanian pay $31.

In 3 of these girls I just couldn't cum beacuse I started to drink beer and booze. So what I did after 10 minutes of fucking them just told them to jerk me of, same shit I couldn't cum so I jerk my self on their faces and told them to see me cumming with condoms of course.
99.99% are colombians I recomend Juliana and Carrol have their phone numbers unfortunately I didn't take my camera for photos. The other two were like dolls very nice body and legs one of them had no kids and her body skin was firm with small firm tits I just enjoyed fucking her.

Other place was Gruta azul this is one step behind Capri $31 dollars half hour , maybe I fucked the nice looking ***** there a petite colombian called Evelyn (phone number) cool BJ the next day went to see her , but I found an attitude on her quickly I left the place never went back, the quality of these *****s are not that great, just money vampires.

I went later to Elite I found a variety of beautiful colombians I met Valeria one of the most beautiful girls I met in Panama. I knew it was expensive so for $18 you get 3 drinks and for $25 unlimited drinking. I went for 3 drinks I knew I wont last there the drinks for the *****s are expensive $15, I bought this ***** 2 drinks, once I told her that I was leaving and no more drinks she left from the table I got up and saw a couple of other *****s who I had a conversation , later after 5 minutes Valeria came to fond me. What a *****.
The shit for this Elite club is $150 to take them out $100 for 1 hour plus drinks, taxi etc, total $300. Forget it I never went back however I did get some phone numbers though unfortunetly I never called them I was busy in Capri and Havanos picking other cheap *****s. I some how regret this I could have these hookers for 50 to 80 bucks the next morning in the hotel.

I never In my life paid $100 or more. Never

The problem with Elite these gilrs seldom get banged most of them hang around in packs. Better get their phone numbres and bang them the next day for even $50.

Next was Club Le Palace just passed by, no parking space. Anyway never went there after knowing Elite I avoided it
These places are a waste of time and Money.

All these hookers have the same pussy to fuck no difference with expensive and cheap ones It's the attitude that counts my best fucks was with my 2 wifes and 2, 10 dollars ones, and Club Capri.

Next other day I went to a place called La Gloria a disco bar were you pick hookers to take out, however after a few beers i got some phone numbers the next day I told them to come to my hotel where I banged one of them for $50. Angelica(phone number) nice firm body , but not great face.

Other day we went with my taxi driver to a place called La bombonera a cheap brothel better than La mayor lot of security I couldn't belive I found this place the rate was 10 dollars for 15 minutes pay more for extra time. I screwed a beautiful colombian middle age woman she was extremely hot i came in to time, i gave her 10 dollar tip. Most of them are 5 , 6 and 7 ,very few 8 and 9. I wish I just could've been there more times.


Returning back to Havanos I picked some nice colombians for 50 and 60 dollars they asked me for $100 I told myself fuck you, after a few drinks and a nice conversation some of them agree for 50 and 60 $ Lady was one of them.
At veneto I met Mariana (phone number) same thing for 60 dollars and $10 dollar tip I fucked her , she didn't let go me and next day she took me to the causway for dinner the next day I did her for the same amount.
Mariana is a real Pro watch out for this one she's after the money thats it. After the second encounter I avoided her although I met her at Veneto a few more times, lucky for me I was with other girls at the time.

I regret drinking to much, I remember fucking this girl at Capri but to this date don't remember her face.The only thing I remember was her blonde hair and kissing her what an asshole I am!
Same once at veneto I told this chubby looking girl I'll pay her $50 she decline and next day one of my wifes told me about her and how she was telling them that I was drunk like a monkey. This chubby girl told me that she is a nurse. You'll find her at Havanos and Veneto.

One of my best fucks was a beautiful panamanian girl , Rina (phone number) I saw her at fiesta casino and venetos but met her at Havanos $60 plus 10 dollar tip She didn't allowe me for a facial photograph just her body she works 2 days at havanos after our session she invited me the next day home for lunch but had to call her first which I didn't . That same night we took a cab and drove her home , later I went to Capri and got drunk.
I think I just missed a few good other fucks.

I went to Oasis a shitty place went inside saw the quality of the girls there 5 working and 3 in the waiting area average of 6, the manager made them stand up to see them, felt bad for them, thinking of hanging meat for the buyer. Never went back.
Massage parlors are a disgrace I avoid them where ever I go.


Ok most of these trip I made it with the help of a taxi driver Alfonso, very nice guy who i met by casualty one night I really recomend this guy for entertainement his phone is 64 78 70 99 cell and home number is 254 08 14.
Trust me you'll have a great time with him.

One night I called Al, very nice guy bilingual driver has a black SUV charges by the hour. See the classified area

These 2 guys really know the stuff.

Rina a panamanian, I fell for her beauty and sexy body, maybe I should of married her.

This ***** was so hot I jerk on her mouth with a condom

Angelica is a very nice woman I just had straight sex with her

More from my girls

[QUOTE=Trottle Buck]Rina a panamanian, I fell for her beauty and sexy body, maybe I should of married her.[/QUOTE]Hello Throttle Buck,

Some very nice photos and a nice long detailed report.

Rina does seem nice from what I could see.

Thank you for the PM.

Looking forward to getting back to PC soon.

I will call your recommended cab drivers as you said they were cool and helpfull.

Free here,

Good Report throttle, on the money about just about everything. I personally have NEVER done anything out of Le Palace or Elite. I only go there to drink before I hit the non pros discos. Another good place to find semi pros is La Bogaditas. It is located on called uruguay and is somewhat similar to habanos but a non pro disco also. Throttle the chic you have pics of under the post titled "This ***** was so hot I jerk on her mouth with a condom", I always see her working, lol, lol. I have not done her though, just not my type, akward kind of face..lol. Seems pleasant though, always smiling.

Now where is this place,La bombonera? I THINK it is on ave. balboa, as you getting close to La Mayor, close to a gas station, am I correct?

Free

Buck - sounds and looks like you had a great couple of weeks. I would love to meet your 2 wifes and see your girlfriends new tits in person. Like you I have found that the WG usually make a circuit out of the casinos and Habano's. On some nights they also hit the disco's. It is interesting their asking prices vary by location. But a couple of drinks and conversation and you can usually get to the right price. I will have to go back to Capri and give it a try. Went a couple of times in November. I enjoyed the social atmosphere in the bar with the girls. They had some nice dance routines as well. But in the rooms they seemed to be overly concerned with hygeine. All the hand and cock washing along with the restrictions made it difficult for me to finish. Maybe I just had a couple of overly stringnet ones.

Fat Fax - The girls in Veneto will almost never approach you first. You could sit there all by yourself for a long time and be bored. But just find one you like, slide over and start a chat. You can buy her a drink at normal prices if you like. If things are going well you or her may mention la compañía. That is the discussion for you having company in your hotel room. Then negotiate from there. Be specific as to length of time and services. The only issues I have seen with security is that they keep the girls away from bothering the guys at the table games. They will only allow them there if they are actively playing. Most do not play because of the betting levels involved.

Jimbehr - It is rare that I have been specifically asked for a tip. I am sure it has happened but it does not stand out. However, if I feel I have negotiated a good price with a girl, and the session was very good, I may voluntarily add $10 and specifically tell them why. (ie I really enjoyed our time, what you did, want to see you again etc.) They sometimes ask for taxi money and if I feel like it I throw them $5. Never more. I think that the places mentioned in the recent reports and Bucks adventures are good places to go. If you really have no Spanish skills you may want to hook up with one of Buck's drivers. But you can go it alone and still have plenty of fun. I would just stay out of some of the low end places without knowing the language or having a guide.

Veneto has been hit or miss, just saw a bunch of ladies being stopped at the door, and saw a girl pulled off the elevator because she did not know her customers room number. So take that for what it is worth. Habanos was packed last night with good looking ladies, did not sample, waiting for a certain lady I took back a couple nights ago. Lina at Oasis is GFE and full service without any problems.

I knew you would come through! Great report.

[QUOTE=Free Sex]Free here,

. I only go there to drink before I hit the non pros discos. Another good place to find semi pros is La Bogaditas. It is located on called uruguay and is somewhat
Free[/QUOTE]
Its La Bodeguita bro!, this place I think is open all days, you can find pro and nonpro girls all week around

[QUOTE=Free Sex]Free here,
Now where is this place,La bombonera? I THINK it is on ave. balboa, as you getting close to La Mayor, close to a gas station, am I correct?
Free[/QUOTE]

La Bombonera is way off the regular roads, its like going to Colon on a small mall that I cant recall the name. Ive heard several times that they close it out and some other times that its still open. The owners are the same ones from La Mayot

Free Here,

Lol, as usual Gaunt corrects me in spelling and location..lol..lol. Well its not that serious, I doubt I will be going to the one on the way to Colon!
Yo Gaunt, any suggestions on cool NON PRO discos? Im getting REAL tired of Moods, aint you?!?!?

Free

Well , lets put this way the colombians *****s are there for one thing only and that is to make some money to send back to their love ones, they are looking for customers only. No love and emotional feelings. Most of them come from ruin families, kick and beaten from husbands and boyfriends. What I sense in most of them all over central america is that it's very hard for them to fall in love or feel any emotion towards costomers. Most of them dream going back to colombia to see their children and love ones. Very few cases just want to get married with some foreigner and have some kind of life in america, and most of theses cases always fail to accomplsih what they are there for.

With out knowing it with the life style they have they are already alcoholics Put this way , These *****s and specially the hot ones have good treatment from customers, the best drinks from the house, best food, 3, 4 ,and 5 stars hotels, plus the money they get, what else could can they dream of?

With one of my girfriends we always talk about getting marry, however she says to me after 3 years , she wants to work and accomplish her goals , that is to send money to her son and family. I doubt of getting married with any of these *****s, with time their bodies get wasted product of smoking, boozing and bad nights all year around.
To most of these hookers sex don't mrean nothing, just open their legs and bingo, who is next ? It's a vicious circle with out feelings.

The dumbest bastards who marry them from my experience in Costa Rica , they always fail in 2 or 3 years . These *****s always return to their whoring life , it's something natural to them.

When I met this colombian girl in Royal casino with my girlfriends, she told me that her boyfriend knows shes in Panama trying to buy merchandise, and I told her thet if he knew if she was working, she told me No fucking way , if he ever knew about it everything was over.
As you see they even lie to their boyfriends or spouses. These women are really *****s.

My advise to mongers just love them fuck' em and dump them.
After they are through with us, they'll seek another duck to pay for their glamours life.

This is Mariana a nice looking girl with good feelings, but a real Pro, just watch for her, She has a way of getting money back.
Fucked her twice, last one was with a bare handjob, the cum went flying to her arm. jeje.
Enjoy it.

Went to Boleros and La Bodegita bars, these bars are in the calle Uruguay exclusive to Panama (my ass). You will find pro and non pro's it's resally hard to know who is who, in theses places you'll find *****s from havanos and veneto.
Went with my 2 girls just to drink , the music is so lowd you get annoyed.
Because i't s crowed at night be careful with the wallet, I put my wallet in my front right pocket of my pants. You never know whats going to happen.

La bombonera is not located in colon direction, To this day I'm not sure , however is near the Balboa avenue, aprox 10 minutes drive from Havanos. It's really near Panama city.


I forgot to mention Golden times and River club these are massage parlors not bad at GT $80 for half an hour girls are really good.
River club sucks same rate and less chics.

I was in Panama 10 months ago and i will be again in 4 months.The only place I found chicas bonitas was Le Palace and Elite Club and un pocito de bonitas en Miami club(but unhealthy environment). I used to go to Le Palace at about 3.00, choose una chica,take one drink until the fall of the drop(at about 4.00) and leave with the chica for my hotel room for 100-120 USD for 2 hours sex. I had met in Palace una hermosa Colombiana, Carolina (one of my best fucks). That is my experience about Panama
PS sorry for my below average english.

Friendly,

George from Athens

[QUOTE=Trottle Buck]You will find pro and non pro's it's really hard to know who is who, in theses places you'll find *****s from havanos and veneto.[/QUOTE]

I found it easy to know who the pros were. The pro girls will come up and dance with you and rub your dick through your pants. After a song or two she will suggest to have sex with her for $80.

Two of the hottest girls I saw in Panama were in the La Bodegita bar, both pros. Be aware that standard hooker tricks are in full effect there, so keep an eye on your money. I promise the girls are.

[QUOTE=Trottle Buck]Well , lets put this way the colombians *****s are there for one thing only and that is to make some money to send back to their love ones, they are looking for customers only. No love and emotional feelings. Most of them come from ruin families, kick and beaten from husbands and boyfriends. What I sense in most of them all over central america is that it's very hard for them to fall in love or feel any emotion towards costomers. Most of them dream going back to colombia to see their children and love ones. Very few cases just want to get married with some foreigner and have some kind of life in america, and most of theses cases always fail to accomplsih what they are there for.

With out knowing it with the life style they have they are already alcoholics Put this way , These *****s and specially the hot ones have good treatment from customers, the best drinks from the house, best food, 3, 4 ,and 5 stars hotels, plus the money they get, what else could can they dream of?

With one of my girfriends we always talk about getting marry, however she says to me after 3 years , she wants to work and accomplish her goals , that is to send money to her son and family. I doubt of getting married with any of these *****s, with time their bodies get wasted product of smoking, boozing and bad nights all year around.
To most of these hookers sex don't mrean nothing, just open their legs and bingo, who is next ? It's a vicious circle with out feelings.

The dumbest bastards who marry them from my experience in Costa Rica , they always fail in 2 or 3 years . These *****s always return to their whoring life , it's something natural to them.

When I met this colombian girl in Royal casino with my girlfriends, she told me that her boyfriend knows shes in Panama trying to buy merchandise, and I told her thet if he knew if she was working, she told me No fucking way , if he ever knew about it everything was over.
As you see they even lie to their boyfriends or spouses. These women are really *****s.

My advise to mongers just love them fuck' em and dump them.
After they are through with us, they'll seek another duck to pay for their glamours life.[/QUOTE]

Hi Trottle Buck,

In my experience and opinion you are offering some pretty sage advice. I think, however its important to differentiate between the semi-pro Colombianas that get into the "business" for a short period of time to pay off a debt, or raise money for their child and the hardcore Colombianas that work the "circuit".

By the "circuit" I mean those well-worn travel destinations that all the Colombiana regulars know - all too well. Costa Rica, Panama, St Marteen, Curacao and Aruba. If as a monger you stay in the hobby long enough, I have no doubt that you will make it to the shores of at least one of these destinations at some point and quite likely more than one. When you do, you may well see some old familiar faces, as the same line-up of Colombian working girls pass through and make their plans and schedule their flights to move along to the next one.

These hard-core pros (you are absolutely correct Trottle Buck) have no elusions of marriage or of love but rather are looking for only for money. They are the girls that can "run with" 3-6 clients a night, shower, eat, sleep and then get up and do it all over again.

This doesn't necessarilly bother me, because at times this is exactly what I'm looking for. A pro who knows her business and can completely "drain me" :) but at other times I'm looking for more of a gfe. To find a true GFE you'll need to travel to the motherland - Colombia, because a true girlfriend isn't likely to travel off of the mainland for business. ;)

cheers,
FORD

Well said Ford, I guess both think the same, get laid and find some kind GFE with someone to fully enjoy.

Very true your statements,

My girlfriends are now leaving Panama the 29 of August, their heading to Cartagena to meet an american banker for 4 days of fucking and getting money as they told me. Later by mid september they have a contract in Aruba for 3 months one of them has been there twice and she's taking the other one.
By christmas they'll head back to Colombia as most of the *****s do, and rest the whole season with their families as they said.
Beacuse of some trust we have, they invited me to Colombia next year. and have orgies with their friends. Not bad jeje!
I doubt i'll travel to that country , it's pretty harry down there with urban kidnapings and murders. More likely I'll be in CR, Panama, Cuba or Ecuador, all these places I already been and the mongering is excelent.

Take care Ford

TB

Hey Buck,

Since you are not interested in the orgy scene in Colombia,
Ford and myself might be able to cover for you! (LOL)
It won't be easy, but we will do our very best!

Do you have any posts on the Ecuador boards? that is somewhere i have not been? very interesting?

Thanks everyone for bringing this thread back to life just before my trip to Panama City. I really appreciate all the tips and shortcuts. Although I have been mongering all over Latin America for the past twelve years, it is great to get the latest updates on a new destination. Thanks again, and I hope I can return the favor someday.

Fantasy (the one and only!)

Free Here,

I know some will laugh at me for this one. BUT can anyone give me a company they have used here in panama city that delievers flowers? Good price, on time, and actually deliever the flowers?! Name and number of the company would be a great help. Gauntman,anyone? In exchange, Ill give you the number of a smoking, good service pro named Maria I recently took out of Habanos.

Free

FTD (Fantasy To Deliver) Hey Free, if you can wait a week I will deliver them. But on a serious note, call the Concierges desk at the Marriott. She speaks perfect english and she can recommend you a ligit florist. But make sure you get her name, and when you call the Florist, let them know who recommended you. This will "sweeten" the quality of the order. Good Luck

507-210-9100

[QUOTE=Free Sex]Free Here,
I know some will laugh at me for this one. BUT can anyone give me a company they have used here in panama city that delievers flowers? Good price, on time, and actually deliever the flowers?! Name and number of the company would be a great help. Gauntman,anyone? In exchange, Ill give you the number of a smoking, good service pro named Maria I recently took out of Habanos.
Free[/QUOTE]

what have you gotten into free? hmmm any small floral shop located in a well traversed area might do the trick. One with the most reknown
Floristeria Lourdes Ikebana 2234686

Free here,

Yep Gaunt, thats the EXACT company The Marriot women sent me to. The chic got the flowers this morning, everything came off great. In cast anyone wants to know, a dozen red roses cost $30 and $5 to deliever, a total of $35 bucks.

Floristeria Lourdes Ikebana 2234686 There is an english speaking women there.

Free

Now where is my photo? 9 days and counting

Guys, sorry to break the news to you, but once these ladies have been de-flowered, you can't re-flower them with $35 worth of roses.

Free Here

Fantasy,
Yeah, I never take pics of these pros, probably because I live here in Panama. Not to mention I dont really hobby to often. Guess thats not an excuse but I just never take pics, they are not really worth remembering. Just go get another one. Habanos, the supermarket, via espana, Veneto, Discos, etc, etc..

Member,
Good point, but this one is my "novia".

How about a picture of your Novia? (lol).

So it is probably about time that I stop lurking on this board and instead share some of my experience. I work for a US company that has lots of business in Panama, and as consequence I often travel down here for a few weeks at a time. Right now I am on one of those trips.

A few disclaimers upfront. First, Panama is the only country that I've worked my hobby in. Over half a decade ago I used to travel extensively in Mexico, Ecuador, Peru, where as a single traveling man in my late 20's it was incredibly easy to find non-pros for casual relationships. Let's say that I was spoiled relative to Panama, since I am finding the short-term non-pro action quite difficult. In my opinion, Panamanian women are not very good looking relative to other latin women. They often can have smoking bodies, but really funny looking faces. There is an exception, which is the upper-crust of society, called the rabiblanca, but they move in their own little social bubble and as far as I can tell don't even recognize that anyone outside their clique exists. You can see cute girls working the lobby in your hotel or whatever, but relative to let's say Lima, they aren't going to be interested in flirtaceous banter. It's really off-putting, and so it has led me to P4P.

Life Girls Spa: This is on Via Espana next to the Rey Supermarket. I had my first experience with P4P here, with a blonde from Medellin named Carolina. This was nearly a year ago, and I haven't been back to see if it has change, as suggested by an earlier post. At the time, there wasn't a cover, and it was a small place that appeared to be frequented by locals or travling latin business men. They have a stage for dancing, but dancing isnt' really the point. About six-eight chicks have been working when I've been there and they will come by and try to chat with you. Chica drinks are 14 or 15 dollars. When I visited the first time, Carolina was dancing and stirred something deep inside. We talked for a bit (I am fluent) and after she let me feel her really, yet large boobs, we agreed to go to the back room. Back room was 90 bucks at the counter. She gave BBBJ and 69, and had one orgasm apparently orally before we even got started. She gave me two services and we laid around afterwards for awhile (I am big into the GFE and she has been the best to date). I got her digits, but I threw the evidence away as I had no time on that trip before going back Stateside. I returned several months later and saw a dark hard girl from Cali that I remembered from the first time and might have been hotter, but she wanted 120 for an hour in the back. Carolina wasn't there. So I left. I recommend this place, for a low-key in-house experience. Caroline = 8/10.

Oasis: In El Cangrejo, near the Venetto. The 50 dollar lunch special is OK. It is kind of like going to a lunch buffet, you get what you came for, but it isn't a gourmet experience. I've dropped in on this place a couple of times and all the girls are sitting in the main room. 3 or 4 times I didn't like what I saw so I left. Once, I went at lunch time and there weren't any chicas: the guy told me that they were all at lunch! Anyway I returned 15 minutes later and two girls came after a couple of minutes waiting. I chose a bottle blonde from Toula (sp?) Colombia, who was ok. She had a smoking hot body, but didn't mouth kiss and wanted to get straight to business. After a couple quick minutes of covered oral sex, she got on top and had me off in 5 minutes. She was really fit and really muscular, something that I have noticed in the women from the Pacific coast of Colombia and Ecuador. She said that she danced a lot. It was fun, and she was certainly skilled and attractive but no GFE. ??? = 6.5/10.

Miami: A bit out of the way, in El Dorado, behind the mall in a strip near the Nikos Cafe. This place moved just two doors down over the last year. It is run by the Chinese syndicate here in town, and El Dorado is the center of operations. I've gone here a couple of time since it is near my condo and I always think that I can bottom-fish here, and they are open during the day, unlike a lot of other places. What I like about this place is that the chicks are totally bored during the day, and get really vulgar in trying to get oyu to go into the back room. My first trip I hooked up with this darked haired girl from Cali that worked the 2-10 PM shift, and that I believe that I saw later working at Elite. I paid 90 for the hour*. She was hot, with a decently flat stomach and large if floppy natural tits. She gave a BJ (can't remeber if covered or not) and had me on top. She was an expert at getting me off, which she did in about 5 minutes. She wanted an extra 20 bucks or so for another service during the hour, so we laid there for 10 minutes and then we got dressed. 5/10. I returned nuch later and was really really desperate after having going to La Mayor etc and so I paid a larger but huge boobed girl from Panama. She was not that hot, but really good in bed. We finished and she started to tell me about what was going on with her and her life in San Miguelito (a poor barrio outside of Panama City with the highest crime rate in the area). I got the sense that she was into me, but then she got this stomach muscle cramp, and couldn't go again. The stupid nice guy that I am, I rubbed it like some girlfriend with menstral cramps, and then we got dressed. She kissed me and started to cry when I left...weird. 6/10. I've been back to Miami, but not as a client. I took a colleague there once, and he enjoyed the front room action, you can get a full nude lap dance for 20 bucks, hands can roam anywhere for two songs. He like it, but it was a Friday night and it was wierd to see a mostly local, blue-collar crowd dropping their paycheck in one night there. I doubt most went into the back room as they seemed to be more into the front-room grope. I returned again a few nights ago hoping to find a STR girl whose cell phone I could get. I cozied up to a tiny little dark-haired light skinned chick from San Andres Island who had the tightest little ass, and a decent if zitty face. She isn't really what latin men are looking for and it was near closing so I thought that it would be easy for me. But no, she wanted me to go into back room for 90 bucks. Take out would be 150. And she was the most mercurial of any of the chicks that I've been with. I told her I need to hit the ATM, and didnt return. I don't recommend Miami.

Elite: I've had the best private lap dance of my life here (oral sex on her included). And the chicks will give you digits, if you can do it subtlely. Work has kept me from following up the next day, but this is more of an eye-candy place. Careful, because this is the one place where the ladies know English, so you can't talk around them. The chicks are really flirty, really hot all are 7-8.5.

Le Palace: For a young, low-budget guy like me, this place is weird. First, the women are by far the hottest chicks in Panama, and they are all in white lingerie. But they aren't like Elite in that they don't approach you and they don't build up the fantasy. The women could all be Hawaiian Tropic models, but I've yet to talk to even one when I go in there. But smoking hot!

Royal Elegance Spa: This place is almost impossible to find. On Via Porras as you go towards the ocean, you'll see a Shell gas station on your right. Directly across the stree you'll see a gravel track leading through the hedges. That's the place. The owner told me he gets lots of Navy guys in, and he is well advertised in the gringo papers. But I can't imagine how anyone would find it. It is 24 hours. The first time there were like six chicks, and none were greater than a 5. They looked like they had quite a bit of mileage. I left. Recently, I went as 6 AM after striking out for non-P4P at the discotecas. There were two chicks in towels that had just got out of the sauna, and one was a cafe-au-lait skinned Panamanian that reminded me of a girlfriend from Ecuador. I paid 65 for 30 minutes. She gave a decent CBJ, and we tried several positions for sex. She really wanted me to finish up ASAP, but she was pretty hot. 7/10. There was a dude passed out on the floor when I came in, so you should be pretty seasoned before going here.

Cristal Moon: This is down by the old center of town (Cinco de Mayo plaza). It is a dance and take out place. I got the phone number of a chick from Cali that I thought was going to be the ultimate GFE but it didn't work that way. I called her the next day and we agreed to meet after she got off work. She was a tall thin blonde with tiny tits, but great abs and ass. I picked her up outside her apartment and we went to breakfast. We got a room and I thought that I'd spend the morning with her. The sex lasted for ever and was really good, but then she got dressed and said that she had to go to the clinic for the weekly checkup. When we got to clinic I was shocked when she asked for 100 bucks! Stupid me thought that maybe I had gotten a freebie! I gave her 60 bucks, and we agreed to keep talking. I texted her, and got the cold shoulder. Since then I've read some really bad press about the club, and definately got a vibe that the management doesn't treat the talent well there (the only place where I've gotten that vibe). I wouldn't patronize here again, cover was 20 bucks and it is the only place where they don't let you go in for free to see how many girls are working. A clip joint, avoid.

Caribbean Center: Also in El Dorado, near the Fridays and across from the DoItCenter. +40 high-mileage ladies in here. Supposedly it is 20 for a massage and then you negotiate extras inside. Nothing interested me here. There were like 10 women here at night.

El Mayor, etc: There are three brothels in the fishing dock part of town. This is an extremely sketch area. I got a hustler from El Cangrego who wanted to take me here. It was mid-day on Saturday. The first two places were packed with dudes drinking and seriously high-mileage/hard-luck women in the back. In La Mayor, cover is 2 dollars, but I think that you get a beer or something. There was police protection and the place was jammed with working guys getting drunk. They have nude dancing, and there was a smoking hot Dominican? dancing, but she got snapped up as soon as she got off the stage. My "guide" wanted a rather large local girl, and I saw my out. I gave him the 10 bucks and ditched him. This place was really sketchy, and I wouldn't recommend it, unless you are seriously horny.

La Bodeguita, etc: In my experience, La Bodeguita is full of seasoned pros. I didn't dig it very much, and the girls were asking for 100. I didn't see the benefit, as they were not as hot as the women in Oasis, Life Girls, etc. I took a number, and called the chick a few nights later. Her name is Isabela, and she was not quite as hot when I picked her up from in front of Habanos. Naked, all of a sudden she grew a big gut, but at least she had nice hoots. She gave CBJ and decent sex, I paid 50 dollars for the hour. But I don't recommend this experience, as I don't really see the value.

I did some searching on the web and found an article written by a local NGO about the status of working girls in Panama. Prostitution in Panama is well regulated and the Colombian girls come on special "escort" visas. A condition of their visa is that they have weekly medical exams (this story has been corroborated by several girls). If they have an STD they are treated and cannot work until cured. They are deported if HIV+. The girls all practice safe sex, and get safe-sex education. The result is that the rate of STD in managed prostitues in Panama is lowever than the national average for all women (I think that it was 0.3% vs. 0.9%). The health ministry does monthly sweeps to ensure compliance and places are shut down if their papers aren't in order. That is another reason why I like the formal place. I just wish that I could find a girl that wanted to be my girl on the side from one of these places. I.e. I am too cheap to pay 60-90 bucks a night to get laid all week long. If any of you other Panama City regulars know something that I don't I'd love the advice. I am in town until Thursday if anyone wants to troll with me. Give me a PM.

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Hey Punk23!

Jesus, what a report! All the girls in Le Palace could be "hawaiian tropic models"!

Very good and detailed work! Your report and some of the 1st class reports by Regulr Travlr should definitely be considered as reports of distinction.

Thanks for breaking your silence and posting! :)

Excellent report, Punk.

As a 1 ½ year resident of PTY, I think your descriptions and opinions are accurate. Just wondering: why have you not described Golden Time?

I don’t understand Club Miami at all, especially given the alternatives. I find it ridiculous to put up with the music, the pushy broads, and the over priced drinks, just for a back room bang for $6 more than it costs across the street.

I actually like a lot the typical panameña--a unique afro-latin mix. The chocolate skin, large breasts, and round butts are really appealing to me. I see a lot of Halle Berry’s walking around here. But you’re right about the attitude. Whereas in other parts of latin america, your typical younger woman you see out on the street is going to offer a shy, if not coy, smile, here you’ll get a blank stare and maybe a mumbled “wuenodia” if you’re lucky.

I have gotten into a regular situation with two different independents I encountered at Habano’s. In one case, after a couple of freebies, she then started asking for a regalo. Unimpressed with my $50, she stopped calling. The other situation was perfect. She’d come over 2 or 3 times a week, usually with some warm empanadas in tow, and provide GFE. I’d drop $50 or $100 on occasion to keep her interested. She went back to Medellin, which was a good thing, because it was way too convenient to have her at my disposal.

I have learned that all of the girls from the major clubs have a mandatory appointment with the same GYN on Wednesday mornings, first come first served. I’d love to be a fly on the wall at that place.

Thanks Ford

I agree with the statement of the Le Palace girls. I think they can even fulfill a "fantasy". You just have to be willing to pay the price.

Great summary Punk. You really made it around. I still have not received any confirmation on the changes at Life Girls. I too found one of the most amzing girls there. Although in general there were not that many who are of the top notch caliber.

Watch where you throw my name around!

There is a strange thing I think in Le Palace. There is the expert lighting in the club so girls look over beautifull than they really are. When its your first time here you impress.

Jorge de Grecia

I have a small (fits in my pocket) battery operated LED lantern that I sometimes take with me when I know a club will be very dark. It not only allows me to get a great look at who I am talking to, but it keeps the "Ugly as Sin" girls at a nice distance from my table. They don't want the illumination to spoil their chances with the other patrons.

Hey Horn,

I just happen to have next Wed available. Do you have the address for the GYN?

Room 1829

The Marriott

[QUOTE=Regulr Travlr]Room 1829

The Marriott[/QUOTE]

ha ha ha ha ha :D

I think the Panamanian girls are quite pretty, especially if you like darker-skinned women with more rounded features. The Colombianas are hot too, but most I saw were blonde, a bit taller, and more slender.

I found the women to be quite open in making eye contact and indicating interest. I think it might have something to do with where you are in the city, however. In the El Cangrego area I didn't notice it so much, but when I was in the Calidonia neighborhood I got much more interest.

One night I took a Panamamanian friend to dinner and after flirting with the waitress a bit she was so flustered she tried to bring us another table's order.

travlr ill hit ya with a pm later . just 1 little favor though. please pump some life back into the photo gallery. i know youll come through. hey see if my hook up man is there . i think he has a new mercedes lol. happy hunting.


spider

Spider

I hope to do you proud. Doesn't your tout have his own website by now? I figured you just did all your bookings online before your arrival.

Here's a few pics to tide you over till next week. You know who they are.

A good story goes with these.

I realized after I posted that I forgot a bottle blonde silicone Cali girl from Gold Times. One thing that I don't like about GT is that the lights are bright, the chichas do parade in front of you, but the go in an out in half a second. There is not time to figure out which one you want, let alone remember her number on the sheet. I guess I like the pre-seal the deal banter, and there isn't much of that at GT (nor at the Oasis). But GT gives you a half hour special for 68. The blondie gave me a great CBJ, no kissing, and she got me off real quick. She hopped off, asked for a tip and got dressed quickly. Wham bam, thank you mam. But there are a nice variety of girls in there...all Colombians.

Several years ago, when I first came here, I got good reception in one of the dancehalls in Calidonia from non-pro girls that lived out in Don Bosco. They saw me and my buddy walking towards the place and waived us down, two late 20's guys with blue eye, I think that they felt that they won the lotto. That was pretty good, but that's been about it. A few weeks later, we went to a small cafe on Avenida Cuba and flirted with and 18 and 19 yo pair of sisters from Colombia. I had my girlfriend from the time visiting, so I couldn't seal the deal, but my buddy had free, frequent sex with a very hot latina. And he spoke less Spanish than you find on the Taco Bell menu. Since then, there are plenty of great-looking young professional women at the company that I work for, but they know that I have a lady back in the states, and I don't shit where I eat, so that sucks too.

I am feeling the need again, but I only want to spend 60 max, and I don't want to spend 10 hours searching for it. I might try to see what the deal is with Life Girls, since I am in the neighborhood, and not afraid to walk in or walk out. I am not sure what Tuesday at the Casino could dig up either. I wish that I had the cell number of Regulr's photo babe, I'd pay top dollar for that.

Hey, I could always "shit" at your work for you. Just introduce me as a huge Western union supporter!

Thanks for the update on GT. Your tastes and approach are similar to mine. I too enjoy the "pre seal the deal banter." That is why the MP type places don't interest me. But GT is unique in the number and quality of girls. Everyone has to check it out once.

When Spider walks in now he doesn't even bother with a line up. He just shouts out a number to see what he will end up with.

It would be great to get an update on the status of Life Girls. I still talk with the former employee who is now in Colombia. Her info was that there is now a pretty high cover and no onsite action. I am OK with the no onsite, if takeout is reasonable. But unless its open bar, there is no reason to pay a cover there.

Sorry, but no chance on the number of the girl in the pics.....approaching part time novia status. But she does have a sister..............

[QUOTE=Regulr Travlr]Spider

I hope to do you proud. Doesn't your tout have his own website by now? I figured you just did all your bookings online before your arrival.

Here's a few pics to tide you over till next week. You know who they are.

A good story goes with these.[/QUOTE]Why don't you tell us the story attached with these pics. BTW: Has some one tries the oriental massage parlour on via Argentina? Some chicks are hot out there.

Ok, so Tuesday night I did go out since I was in Cangrejo. There were a ton of street cops that appear to be hassling folks, so FYI. A cruise past Habanos showed all the chairs outside full, but I didn't stop. I when upstairs at Life Girls, and the was no one even at the door, let alone cover. There were 5-6 girls, all with guys, and none worth talking to. I stood at the door for like five minutes waiting for one of the "waiters" (i.e. touts) to approach, but they didn't even bother. Not worth it. So I left. No ladies near the McDonalds, but there were several on the street around the corner from Manolos...a bit out of sight. They all appeared to be very dark-skinned Panamanians, one had a nice big booty if you are into that. I read earlier that someone asked about Honey Place bar, in the area: nope, just a stupid bar with a bunch of local guys inside.

Next, went to River's Club. The deal is that there is a guy at the desk in front, and then a bunch of girls on a couch in teddies in the back room. He wanted 60 bucks. There was one girl who was ok looking and had a very eager smile that might have been worth it, but I was hoping for something special, so I passed it up. A taxi guy outside, who would only talk to me in English...although it's clear that I'm fluent in Spanish...which is always a warning IMO, took me across the little plaza to Relax, which I had heard of, but didn't know where it was. The girls were a small step down from River, and the place looked like every Hollywood image of a Vietnam era brothel looked like, with the beaded doors and everything. Then the scariest looking madam came out. Please tell me that these girls won't end up like that!!! She wanted 80, my taxi driver hustler "translated for me" and then kindly offered 60 for me...I couldn't run out the door fast enough. Taxi guy followed me out, and asked for a buck tip, which I gave him since I didn't want any problems and it is pretty dark in the little plaza where you find these two joints. I figure the info about Relax for the forum was worth a buck, since I wouldn't have found it without the guy pointing it out...from the parking spot in front of River you can't see the sign.

I was headed to Golden Times when I saw two young girls on the corner of the Veneto near the U of Panama. I doubled back and flashed my lights and they waived...not local Panamenas! One was really cute, in a photogenic way with engaging light brown eyes. The other was a tall, trim blonde with silicone and a face that was more towards porn star than pretty. They wanted to work together, which I've never done, so I haggled them down to 50 each. They promised lots of kissing and stuff, but no intergirl action. They said that we could stay at the pushbutton (sex hotel) for a while, and have several finishes. So I capitulated.

In the room, the pretty one naked turned out to be really really soft....But she was cute. They took turns, and I was only slightly turned off by one girl being on the phone with the other was CBJ. The pretty one didn't really want to kiss, and wasn't really into giving me a good time, but the bottle blonde really was into making me feel raunchy. I finished with her first, while the other one was on the phone or something, then rested and then worked it with the second, which was less spirited. It helped that the blonde was touching herself and telling me how she wanted to come when I did. All in all it was something that I've never done before so it was worth it, and I couldn't have gone again, but they didn't quite live up to GFE...I guess what do you expect...

I am going to post their cell phones, since they were quite open about how they were looking for work, and they enjoyed their job, and from my perspective, back in the states my internet is monitored and I won't be on the forums for a while. (If that breaks a rule, can you please post the rest of this report?)

Camile: 65272303 (silicone blonde...but with a very tight stomach and a great attitude)

Juliana: 64648958 (cute, but not quite as much into the fantasy of it all).

Enjoy fellas!

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Does anybody know if Capri pay taxi drivers commision? I don´t think I can find it myself but don´t want to them rising the price on me because they paid a taxi driver commission. Are there any directions or land marks near Capri. Even their website doesn´t list a location.

[QUOTE=jimbehr2000]Does anybody know if Capri pay taxi drivers commision? I don´t think I can find it myself but don´t want to them rising the price on me because they paid a taxi driver commission. Are there any directions or land marks near Capri. Even their website doesn´t list a location.[/QUOTE]Club Capri (Formerly known as Club Fenix) is in Rio Abajo in Calle 16 (16th Street). If coming from downtown, tell the driver to go on Villa Espana straight to Rio Abajo. On 16th street, the driver must make a left turn (No other way to turn). If you are worried about paying a "commision to the taxi driver, just have him drop you off at the entrance of 16th steet. This would be a bad move at night; the area is part of the "Red Zone", which means there is a high incidence of crime (Drugs, robberies, etc) in the area. There is no problem around the club; they have heaps of security and they are highly visible. Enjoy.

I really like to hear the story behind those photos. Remind me and I will send you some of my own.

[QUOTE=Voyajer1] the area is part of the "Red Zone", which means there is a high incidence of crime (Drugs, robberies, etc) in the area.[/QUOTE]

have to correct you on this, this area isnt red zone, the are that you mention is near la mayor in the old part of the city, namely el chorrillo, curundu, barraza and the light. Not even the police wants to get in unless absolutely necessary in those areas during the night.
Rio abajo is fairly safe as long as you practice common sense

I don't have anything new to report but I wanted to share info that may help someone down the road. I took a taxi from the airport to Veneto which cost $27.40. Veneto is a pretty awesome hotel but the rooms cost $95/nite so it should be awesome. My room had an incredibly huge walk in shower. The casino is first rate as is the breakfast.

Since I arrived from Costa Rica, I was thinking the scene here might be more open than it actually is. By 3AM I was disappointed. No action for me yet. I had visited Habanos but was very unimpressed with the selection. There were a few girls at Fiesta Casino bar but they weren't impressive either and they seemed to be busy with guys trying to pick them up. There were no girls when I went to Veneto either. Since Oasis is a one minute walk from Veneto, I started to go there. As I approached the hotel exit I ran into a hot looking blonde. The blonde, Sondra, is a Colombiana with a body to die for including large natural cans. Minutes later we wound up in my room. Price was $80 after some fierce negotiating from her $100 asking price. Guys, what's the going rate for a very hot independent late at night? I felt $60 was a fair price and tried but she wouldn't budge below $80. We had a great time and I fell asleep thinking Panama might not be so bad after all.

[QUOTE=jimbehr2000]Guys, what's the going rate for a very hot independent late at night? I felt $60 was a fair price and tried but she wouldn't budge below $80. [/QUOTE]

For Habanos, Casinos and Bodeguita, if you can negotiate in spanish, US$70 is the ongoing rate.

Cheers.
LatinBull

[QUOTE=jimbehr2000]price. Guys, what's the going rate for a very hot independent late at night? I felt $60 was a fair price and tried but she wouldn't budge below $80. .[/QUOTE]

As other have said, it depends on your negotiation skills and also will depend if they note that you're not a local, then I dont think they're dropping bellow $50 because they will now that you have the money to pay. Ive managed to pick girls in the El Panama area for $25 for several hours/pops

$140.00 from 10pm till 11am, sometimes even the "one and only" over pays a bit. sorry!

Photo taken by "Ford Studios".

Dude! She is hot!!!!! But I know you could have gotten it for a lower rate! You da man!!

In my book, any lower for this colombiana, for 13 hours of everything including anal, BBBJ, and a great massage, would have lowered the quality of the event. After all, her asking price was $250.00. I said I was sorry, but you know what, I really am not, and I would, and could, pay it again tonight for 13 hours of this quality of ass.

The rest of my latest trip collection? I always do all nighters. I usually picked them up between 11 and midnight and they have to agree to two night and one morning session, then breakfast in the hotel to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off the waitresses who hate to wait on *****s who just made their months salary the night before for having a few good orgasms. We also had a honeymoon couple at the hotel. Every morning the groom got repremanded for drueling, and thinking to himself, "what the fuck did I just do?"

[QUOTE=Fantasy]The rest of my latest trip collection? I always do all nighters. I usually picked them up between 11 and midnight and they have to agree to two night and one morning session, then breakfast in the hotel to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off the waitresses who hate to wait on *****s who just made their months salary the night before for having a few good orgasms. We also had a honeymoon couple at the hotel. Every morning the groom got repremanded for drueling, and thinking to himself, "what the fuck did I just do? "[/QUOTE]I had the same experience in the morning. The waitress would look at us with a stern face. After going back a few mornings to the same waitress, and giving her good tips she relaxed a bit and was much nicer. Some middle aged woman were not happy at all with us and gave us the looks that can kill face. Their husbands on the other hand looked at us with a smile and a thumbs up when his old lady was looking the other way!

These experiences are priceless and I will remember forever. The $140 you paid was worth every penny. It is always better to slightly overpay than underpay. You do get what you pay for. Either with a very pretty girl or the quality of the experience, or both.

Now if I can only find a nice Colombiana that can speak some English.

Where did you find her? Fantasy?

She is very hot!

Hotel Tips
For Mongers

Here are a few tips that have proven helpful over the years while mongering in hotels.
They are in no particular order. Maybe Jackson can move this to a section where everyone can benefit.

1. If you are staying for at least a week or so, upon check in, have the hotel remove everything from the mini bar. Then refill from the corner market the things you like at a fraction of the cost.
The idea here is not so much counting pennies, but the first morning a girl refuses to give you a morning session, and she has spent $100.00 at you mini bar, it might give you a headache all day.

2. As soon as you check in, put your bath towels in a drawer, and call housekeeping to inform them your room needs towels. You never seem to have enough of these during a long night of fucking.

3. If you have to take a room without a safe, It pays to keep a noise maker in your luggage. I keep a wind chime rubber banded with me. Then simply hang it on the inside of your closet door. When you hit the shower, and hear the chimes, you know you have a curious chica, but more than likely a thief!

4. Always shower with the bathroom door open. It’s also a good idea to turn on the water, then pop out into the room in thirty seconds for a quick kiss. Girls who are going to search usually start within 30 seconds of hearing the shower running.

5. *****s all think your shampoo is their body wash. Either take a lot with you, or pull it out of the shower before they go in.

6. Make a habit of placing your do not disturb sign on the door when you return at night. After an all nighter with no sleep, the maid will always hit your room first at 8 am.

7. Keep your lighter and gum in a drawer, these are some of the items that if seen by a chica, become their property.

8. Most hotels charge the same for one or two adults. Always put 2 on your registration card when checking in. Even in guest friendly hotels I have found that this sometimes is a life saver late at night with a stubborn guard who is looking to extort you for a tip.

9. A tremendous amount of hotels in Latin America use “water saver” shower heads. If you have the space, you can pick up a $6.00 head from home depot and put it in your luggage. This will assure you of good water pressure, and it takes thirty seconds or less to change. Just don’t forget to swap it back at check out.

10. At check in, always ask for two key cards. A lot of hotels have a system in the room that requires you to have a key inserted to turn on lights and a/c. this is a great place to store your extra key. It’s a pain in the ass to have to keep inserting your only card.

11. When leaving the hotel, try to use taxis parked across the street. The one the bellman calls for you usually charges up to 100% more.

I hope this helps. Remember, take a few seconds to prepare your room, and it will make for a safer and much more enjoyable hobby.

Fantasy…………

Excellent tips Fantasy

I love the one about the lighter and gum. And the one about the taxis is absolutely true.

Just to add a couple

When stocking your room make sure you have some liquor that the girls will like. In Panama, any kind of whiskey or vodka will do. A few drinks in the room can only enhance the fun. However, be careful you don't get the girl "over the edge" and she passes out!

I also keep my camera out in plain view. Many have been intrigued enough to ask for pics themselves.

Music! - This based on a tip from Senor Ford. Find out if you room will have a CD player, if not bring one. I just leave a number of CD's sitting there. They go right for them and start playing. They love music, love to dance and it enhaces the environment.

If you're going to bring liquor, it's usually cheaper to buy it at home than at the duty free. If you're going to buy it there always look for a Sam's Club or Costco first. For mongering, I like to bring at least one bottle of Jack in bubble wrap in my checked luggage. Sometimes I use the bubble wrap on my return trip, sometimes I throw it out.

Most all systems that use electronic cards use a number-type security system. If you suspect a key has been lifted, go to the front desk and ask them to make you two more. Those keys will have a higher number & once the lock reads them they won't open with a number that's lower (like your original keys), making the "lost" keys useless. (This is true for all Marriott properties & I assume for all others as well)

Put your condoms by the bedside in plain view. I've had problems with girls jumping on bareback when I wasn't keen on that. I also put lube there.

I like to dispose of the "evidence" in an old plastic bag, usually dropped in a hallway trash can. I guess I just don't feel comfortable with the possibility of embarrassing the maid. My issue, I guess.

I usually take my laptop. In other countries, even at Marriotts I like to lock it to the desk with one of those Kinsington audible alarms. Don't know if I'm really accomplishing anything but so far no problems. I also backup my recent photos onto a thumb drive & put that in the safe.

I travel a lot, so I usually bring a few extra shampoos & offer all the toiletries to the girls - they seem to love them.

BTW, Mr. Fantasy - your comment about having the stuff removed from the minibar is dead-on as is the do not disturb sign! Another point - ALWAYS check the in-room alarm clock as soon as you arrive. Sometimes the bastard before you had to get up at 5 AM and the alarm is still set to the "on" position.

When I check in I always ask - "no problem for a guest?" and if there is I know to resolve the problem before it's a problem (never had an issue at Marriotts except when I brought back two girls in Sao Paulo).

***********

Now a question for you guys: I'm a chronic NON-smoker. But....if considering a TLN should I consider getting a smoking room?

Thanks.


Dan D.

A couple of years ago (I probably had around 300 posts or so at that time) I mentioned on one of the Dominican Republic threads that "I know a guy on this board who is as sharp a traveler and hobbyist as there is, anywhere! This guy has probably forgotten as much about the hobby as I've ever known!"

[He] has an amazing amount of knowledge and travel savvy but he doesn't have much in the way of "creds" on this board because due to work conflicts he doesn't have enough time to post. (he probably only had around 40 posts at the time)

"If you ever traveled with him (I went on to say) buckle up and take good notes, because its truly fascinating how his brain works!"

...........the guy I was talking about back then was "Fantasy". My travel buddy.

He may be bold and loud and "in your face" but his insights and opinions are pure gold! This board is lucky to have him.

FORD :)

I spended in Panamà a very good vacations.

I finded 3 pretty ladies and i have their email and information.

Really I was happy and I visited many many places with my 3 ladies.

Do I smell a report of distinction?
1, 3 & 4 will become part of my mongering activities.

My pearls of knowledge:

A): Always travel with a suitcase that has a lock. If the room doesn’t has a safe, then lock you valuables there.
B): Keep you wallet out of sight (on the suitcase?). Have only agreed money handy and....
C): Have small bills for tipping/taxi when she is leaving.

Saludos
LatinBull


[QUOTE=Fantasy]Hotel Tips
For Mongers

Here are a few tips that have proven helpful over the years while mongering in hotels.
They are in no particular order. Maybe Jackson can move this to a section where everyone can benefit.

1. If you are staying for at least a week or so, upon check in, have the hotel remove everything from the mini bar. Then refill from the corner market the things you like at a fraction of the cost.
The idea here is not so much counting pennies, but the first morning a girl refuses to give you a morning session, and she has spent $100.00 at you mini bar, it might give you a headache all day.

2. As soon as you check in, put your bath towels in a drawer, and call housekeeping to inform them your room needs towels. You never seem to have enough of these during a long night of fucking.

3. If you have to take a room without a safe, It pays to keep a noise maker in your luggage. I keep a wind chime rubber banded with me. Then simply hang it on the inside of your closet door. When you hit the shower, and hear the chimes, you know you have a curious chica, but more than likely a thief!

4. Always shower with the bathroom door open. It’s also a good idea to turn on the water, then pop out into the room in thirty seconds for a quick kiss. Girls who are going to search usually start within 30 seconds of hearing the shower running.

5. *****s all think your shampoo is their body wash. Either take a lot with you, or pull it out of the shower before they go in.

6. Make a habit of placing your do not disturb sign on the door when you return at night. After an all nighter with no sleep, the maid will always hit your room first at 8 am.

7. Keep your lighter and gum in a drawer, these are some of the items that if seen by a chica, become their property.

8. Most hotels charge the same for one or two adults. Always put 2 on your registration card when checking in. Even in guest friendly hotels I have found that this sometimes is a life saver late at night with a stubborn guard who is looking to extort you for a tip.

9. A tremendous amount of hotels in Latin America use “water saver” shower heads. If you have the space, you can pick up a $6.00 head from home depot and put it in your luggage. This will assure you of good water pressure, and it takes thirty seconds or less to change. Just don’t forget to swap it back at check out.

10. At check in, always ask for two key cards. A lot of hotels have a system in the room that requires you to have a key inserted to turn on lights and a/c. this is a great place to store your extra key. It’s a pain in the ass to have to keep inserting your only card.

11. When leaving the hotel, try to use taxis parked across the street. The one the bellman calls for you usually charges up to 100% more.

I hope this helps. Remember, take a few seconds to prepare your room, and it will make for a safer and much more enjoyable hobby.

Fantasy…………[/QUOTE]

Fantasy's tips.
Do I smell a report of distinction?
1, 3 & 4 will become part of my mongering activities.

My pearls of knowledge:

A): Always travel with a suitcase that has a lock. If the room doesn’t has a safe, then lock you valuables there.
B): Keep you wallet out of sight (on the suitcase?). Have only agreed money handy and....
C): Have small bills for tipping/taxi when she is leaving.


One that I do: bring a roll of tape. If your room has no safe, you can tape some of your money to underside of a drawer or desk. It is out of site and no one searching would think to look there. Unless they read this...dohhhh

Doubt98,

That is an excellent idea! Also good for wrapping up anything fragile that you may want to bring back.

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Well people, Im leaving pty for 6 months october 31st, leaving for Managua, I taken the offer as club manager in Moods Managua. The owners of Moods are very good friends with me, so now Ill be heading a small expeditonary force down there. Any1 going to managua on the week of november 15th are welcome to come to the opening, just ask for Arturo at the lobby

Ford, are you ready to return to managua yet? has your stab wounds healed from the last excursion there yet?

I'll go back to Managua. I liked that city and that country, of course all I ever did there was meet girls thru the website LatinAmericanCupid.com and I spent all my trips with them.

I found alot of the sc's way way overpriced for the level of quality they were offering. 5.5's, 6.5's and 7's looking for $1.5 - $2.0 for TLN. And this, while there were horse drawn carts riding up the street in front of my hotel bringing fruits and vegetables to market.

But, now that we have a "close personal" friend running the club Moods (GauntMan) - I'm assuming that's all changed! :)

I'd hit MGA again!

[QUOTE=Ford] But, now that we have a "close personal" friend running the club Moods (GauntMan) - I'm assuming that's all changed! :)
I'd hit MGA again![/QUOTE]

Dont worry ppl! Ill set up the scouting missions as soon as I get there and start reporting right away

I'll try not to repeat the otherwise good information already posted on this forum. For the record, I'm a pentagenarian and at that stage in life where comfort is worth more than a few extra dollars. I work hard, earn a much-higher than average living and don't mind spending a few extra bucks if I don't think I'm getting ripped. I also tend to tip much better than most - probably because I usually feel they need the few dollars more than I do. When I'm visiting 3rd world countries and my wife or I want something it's not uncommon for me to negotiate a price down then give them their original asking price. After all, it's all about the journey. If my vacations cost several hundred dollars more in the end, so what? Those of you who don't understand this will likely be there one day as your mortgage gets paid off and you begin making more money. And at my age with no chemical suport from the various vitamins V, C or L it's certainly more about the quality than the quantity. Also typical of my age group that young studs & wannabe studs don't understand - only about 25% of the quality comes from the looks of the gal. The significant majority comes from that indefinable chemistry, attitude, the smile and of course the performance. So once back at the room about all that's left to confirm is the performance.

Got off the plane and stopped at a duty free store before immigration & bought a $4 bottle of Aguardiente based on the recommendations in this forum. Not used to buying from duty free when entering the country. The gal told me it was the best. I had already brought a 1.75 L bottle of Jack (hey - it was only $5 more than a 1 L bottle). Arrived at immigration & thanks to this forum I knew to get my tourist chit before I got in line. No office or window - just a guy standing at a small podium with no sign. Made it through passport control & immigration with no problem. Arrived at the PTY Marriott about 7:30 Saturday night. Got a complementary upgrade to a suite (600-700 sq ft). Went to the Concierge room & got a bite to eat (no charge, of course) & hoarded about 8 - 10 soft drinks to put in the mini fridge in my room. That's why I love the Marriotts - excellent service & good value. The room was only $110.

Walked to the lobby expecting a connect to the casino. Didn't see it so I walked out the main door. I was surprised that Habanos was right across the street (a small 2-lane road) - within throwing distance. Don't know why but I had expected more of a walk and more of a search. Anyway, decided to turn right and found the casino a few hundred feet down the sidewalk. Nice **little** casino - maybe 5000 sq ft. Settled at a $2 blackjack table and relaxed for an hour and a half or so playing with $5 & $10 at a time; looked like I was the big spender in the area. In the end I droped just a little and had a few beers. Seemed I was the only person that tipped the gal that brought the drinks. I didn't see any obvious working girls but I suspect that was simply because my radar wasn't yet tuned. There were several girls playing the slots & the board games, usually with a female friend. Two such groups played at my table, usually betting the minimum. They also didn't seem to know squat about how to play. Most were not dressed suggestively at all - I guess that's why my radar didn't score a hit, although one of the gals did keep smiling at me. The question I had at the time is - assuming I had an interest in her - where to go from here? She's a seat or two removed - how exactly is that segeway [sp?] made? Anyway, she didn't fluff my skirt so it didn't matter, though I did see one over at the roulette table that was very intriguing.

Headed over to Habanos about 10 & was surprised at how small it was. Quite unimpressive, really. Ordered a beer for next-to-nothing and just chilled for a few minutes. There was a group of 4 guys at the table next to me smoking cubans. They were young & I couldn't help but wonder how many were going to get sick later. Ten minutes goes by & I essentially ignore the handful of gals mostly standing in the shadows. Then Mariana introduces hereself. Don't know why, but I just liked her. 25 y/o, large natural jugs and she spoke MUCH better english than my spanish. Bought her a drink ($1 juice), we chat a bit & head back to the room. Concierge downstairs copies her ID. She's from Medellin Colombia. [excuse my ignorance.....I didn't know until talking with her it's pronounced med - i - gene] Anyway, up to the room & she's mesmerized with the suite & can't help but ask how much. BTW - starting price for her was $100 & I countered with $70. We never really settled before heading to the room.

Got to the room & I took a few pics & offered her a drink. She said the Aguardiente I bought was crap! And that it would give you a headache in the morning because it was Panamanian & not Colombian. Then we hopped in the shower together. Bottom line - she was a lot of fun but wouldn't go for bbbj, just cbj. We went for about 30 minutes or so & then I brought out a pocket rocket from my suitcase. I brought 6 on this trip of 10 nights. Based on how she received it I suspect I brought at least 4 too few. They cost about $8 & are about the size of your thumb. Fired it up & she went wild. Finished & cleaned up and went in the living room. Sitting next to her, playing with those huge titties and next thing you know we're at it again. Had a great time though her experience level wasn't the highest. Maybe that's a good thing. She's a student & manicurist/pedicurist & only does this occasionally (she says). She gave me her number & e-mail & I promised to send her copies of the photos.

Unfortunately I'll have to blur the face on this one but I can tell you she's very, very pretty (at least to my old eyes). I'll upload the photos in the photo section on my way out of PTY.

That takes care of day one. Three more nights in PTY then four in CTG then two in SJO.

Following are a few pics of the hotel room [nothing nekkid].


/Dan D.

Day 2 PTY

I sleep in, get up about 9:30 & head to the concierge room for a free breakfast of hot scrambled eggs with cheese, bacon, sausages & fruit. Then I go to the workout room downstairs. First class all the way! Looks like a commercial gym with the flat screens in front of the treadmills. I'm becoming a little more confused though - I'm on an elliptical machine and there are four treadmills in the row in front of me. A young, trim gal comes in and selects the treadmill exactly in front of me. Okay, one chance in four. But the sound isn't working on her headset. Instead of moving to any of the other three treasdmills she goes & gets the guy working there, he fixes it & she starts working out directly in front of me again. Anyway - I assume she's just a guest & finish up & head back to my room.

I get a little work done & decide to head out about two for some lunch. I find a nice little pizza place/wine bar a hundred yards or so from the Marriott and have a good size pizza & two beers for <$10. I leave a $2 tip then walk down the road towards a busier highway. I look left and see the Crown Casino so I decide to stop in for a bit. The info gleaned from this board is starting to make more sense with regards to the location of various "attractions".

Again I play the $2 tables, typically betting $5. I play about 2 hours total and break even but I wind up giving about $50 away a dollar or two at a time to a couple black gals that were playing. They obviously didn't have much so if I won a Blackjack I'd usually give the $2.50 to one of them to play with. I guess I got my answer from yesterday, cause one of them (Angela) winds up sitting next to me glued to my hip for the next hour & a half. Okay face & rather nice tits from where I'm sitting but a god-awful gut. She speaks zero english. Anyway, I finally excuse myself, make a few laps around the casino (it wasn't impressive) and head on back to my hotel, hoping for a gracious exit. Guess who catches up with me? So a little Spanglish later & we're heading back to the Marriott. Actually I'm quite embarrased of the catch I've made but I kinda feel sorry for her. Total costs with pics is slightly more than half what I paid the night before. But the quality was dramatically less too. I'm swearing to myself I'll never do this again before we even get to the room. Gave a new meaning to the walk of shame.

Yes, I realize I've already broken my rule that I would only go after quality. It's been 14 hours since Mariana left and already the little head's taking over. I'm going to have to control that guy better. Anyway, normal shower & then getting down to business. No problem with a bbbj but she certainly jumped when the delivery was made. The spitting didn't do much to enhance the ambiance either. I've made a promise to myself not to accept this level of provider again on this vacation.

Get her out of my room, clean up & get back to work. Photos with disparaging remarks by others in the photo section.

6:30 & I head up to the concierge floor for grilled shrimp. Have a dozen plus a ginger ale and some flan and there's no reason to go out for dinner. Receive a few PMs from the regulars on this forum who tell me I can cut through to the casino on the 2nd floor. I'll try that tonight just for some blackjack (I squandered other opportunities with a less-than-good selection earlier) & call it a night.

10:15 just back from the casino. Yes the cutover to the casino is on the 2nd floor. Up a couple hundred dollars so I'm feeling a little less guilty about the money I blew this afternoon. On the other hand, it looks like Sundays are relatively lame down here. Habanos was closed & in the 3 1/2 hours I spent in the casino it never became apparent there were girls available. There was one decent one that sat next to me at the blackjack table & I did look down her shirt every chance I got but my impression was that she was the friend of another, much older lady, playing at the same table. Dunno. Maybe the other casinos offer take-out on Sundays. Guess it doesn't matter 'cause I already squndered my energy.

Tomorrow's another day.

/Dan D.

I am thoroughly enjoying your report. I came away from PTY very unimpressed with Habanos. The casino where I saw the most girls was Veneto. Did you make it to Golden Times? Guess I'll wait for the rest of your report.

Sunday's are very slow in Panama. You almost have to have to have something lined up or settle for something below your average scale. A few clubs are open, but most of the better girls there take off anyway.

Check out Veneto. It is hit or miss based on the current mood of the management. Just look around the main bar in the casino or at the penny slots.

The surprise place of my last trip was La Bodeguita. A mix of pro and semi-pro. It is very loud with the DJ and sometimes band. So be clear on your negotiations before you leave with your selection.

If you have access to the Exec Lounge in the Marriott you basically have breakfast and dinner paid for. This is probably one of the better lounges in the Marriott chain.

I am looking forward to hearing about day 3. Have fun!

morning is pretty busy with no time for the sport. up early, breakfast, work-out then work. zip over to the casino next door & promptly lose $50. then back to work. i come back to my room and the cleaning lady's there & mentions that i have a female visitor in the lobby. i'd just come through there so i assumed whoever it was had left.

still hard at work an hour or so later & the bell captain calls to tell me i have a visitor. it's angela. god no - i f*cked up once & i ain't going to do that one again. i tell him no! i think he's somewhat amused at my predicament. [see photo's in the photo section & you'll understand]

light dinner in the concierge room upstairs. good but not great. then i head over to the hard rock cafe to pick up a few trinkets for others. take a cab back to venetto casino. now it's all pulling together: venetto casino is only a block or so down the street that's perpendicular in front of the crown casino which is only a block or so from the marriott. damned if manola's restaurant isn't directly across the street from the venetto casino. and oasis is nearly next door (coming out of venetto, turn right & go a hundred feet or so). seems everybody talks about these places but the practical directions are often forgotten. at least one tout outside venetto casino. nobody at the pay phone across from manola's.

so i head into the casino & do a quick walk-through. it's about 6:30 or so. nothing really pops out, though there's sevral possibilities.

sit down for a little blackjack. an hour later & i'm up several hundred. getting frustrated at the idiots who split 6's and double-down on anything. when i joined the table i was number three. played $10 and got several blackjacks in short order & kept getting paid double. i asked on the 1st one (thought it was a mistake) and was told something like "double for triples" - whatever that means. the dealers were on the low end of the competency scale, making several errors. watch yourself in here. anyway, they're shooting a commercial or news story or something & the newgal comes over to play. huge ta-tas. wish she were on the market. ultimately a crowd begins to congregate around the table. i make my money pretty quickly but get aggravated with the other players. newsgal makes a comment in broken english about cutting my hands off if i hit on a 13 again (the dealer had a 7). these people were standing on 13's and 14's with the dealer holding a face card. finally aggravation wins overs the lure of a lucky buck & i cash out.

there were three gals watching most of the time, one [very] young one kept smiling at me. i get up, cash in, make a lap & she's waiting for me in the front. my spanish sucks. her english was worse. we settle on $40 & grab a cab for the marriott. her name is yary. looks like she puts her make-up on with a putty knife. but i don't get many yard passes and it kind of turned me on.

i know my spanish sucks when i can't even pronounce the "marriott" so they can understand it. i really need to take 4 months off and enter an immersion class.

okay, we get to the hotel & i ask the bell captain (who recognizes me after two days) to please check her id and make sure she's old enough. he sees humor in my request & i feel better when he gives me the go-ahead. up to the room & she munches down my grapes (part of a huge tray with cheese, crackers, etc that was a welcome amenity). i ask her if she wants some whisky or aguardiente. she makes faces at the aguardiente and acts like she's vomiting. so far two for two on this "excellent" forum recomendation. at least i'm only our four bucks.

four jack & ginger ales later, half a dozen phone calls & we're off to the races. well.....cbj only. okay, i'm prepared with a flavored condom. five seconds into it & she spits out and says something like "banana nasty". so much for my thoughtfulness. switch to a trojan & we're off again. all in all, not much variety; more of a wham-bam once we're in the sack. then a quick pack-up to go but she was sure to give me her number for later in the week.

overall a fun experience but not worth repeating.

i suspect i'll troll again tomorrow (my last day in pty before heading to ctg) because the line-up approach really doesn't do it for me. i've done that several times before, mostly in monterrey, mx and i really like the flirting & banter even if it's not coherent.

photos of yary in the appropriate section. please don't make fun. admittedly the heavy make-up looks clownish now that the deed's done. on the other hand red lipstick on the cock is a huge turn-on for me, even if it was only side-munching before the condom came out.

/dan d.

Here are a few from the collection..........

another..........

one more, then back to DDD's trip................

Yary is one of a few girls, the other two are dark-skinned, that hang around the blackjack tables at Veneto. There are two black guys with them sometimes, maybe pimps. They come out mainly at night but Yary starts earlier. What surprised me is that this group often crowds around you at the table. The girls, including Yary, constantly ask for a few chips to play blackjack. I never understood why the casino allowed them to hang around and beg. They were allowed to sit at the tables and watch without playing. I always watched my chips and wallet when they were around. They are nice people and fun to chat with and I now believe they are honest. But I felt a little uncomfortable with them near my money and not playing themselves.

The Veneto has several tables with unusual rules. They have a "Veneto Blackjack" table that lets you double after two, three or four cards. Btw I disagree with you about splitting 6s. I think its a good bet if the dealer has a 6 and you are allowed to double after splitting.

You report is very enjoyable. Can't wait for the next installment.

P.S. I never did Yary. There is a light skinned dark haired girl at the penny slots next to the end blackjack table. She's there often after 11PM. She 's very pretty. I'll post a picture if I can find one.

Mr. Fantasy - Your pics sure put mine to shame.

Mr. Allover - Yary never crowded me or anyone else at the table & in fact she was never seated (this time). Honestly, I thought she & her sister were out with her mother until she met me on the way out. I never spotted any dishonesty with her in the room either. She also never semed to get aroused - her lips remained quite unengorged. Not really the best for my ego - even after DATY, she made noises but obviously stopped short. And the lips remained unimpressive. Very unusual for me to run into that; usually 2 minutes of DATY and the lips could hide your ears but not so with this gal.

Anyway...back to work. Tonights my last night here then off to Cartagena.

/Dan D.

I wrote a report in the General section about this after my first trip in November. I titled it "Blackjack for Idiots". They break every rule on a regular basis, including splitting face cards. Somebody suggested that I may have been sitting at one of the variation tables. But like you I stick to only the "regular" tables. I can tell the difference.

The best thing about the casinos is that it is a good way to pass the time.

Sorry the aguardiente selection didn't work out.

I think some of the challenge you may have in finding the girls is your early start. Almost nothing is out there before 10 PM. Those that come out earlier are usually a little rougher.

Get a nap. Take a late start and go hunting tonight. Quality should improve.

Have fun.

Dan D,

I would like to recommend you “Caribbean Center”. Ask a taxi driver where is Do It Center at “El Dorado”. The place is in the building in front of Do It Center across the street. There you should find at least 5 girls that for $60 bucks will make you happy. I hope you could get better girls that the previous you had before you leave.

DDD, the "Mr." is unnecessary. Just Fantasy, or "The one and only", for short. (LOL)

But thanks for the compliment.

Dan D. Great report! Nice work and I'm glad you're having a good time. I'm confused though - why did you post pics of your hotel room? My compliments you have a very nice, neat, tidy collection of hair brushes on your bathroom sink! :D

"Fantasy" (the one and only) "soiled" some very pretty women on our recent trip to PTY. I met both of those girls - they were both stunners! Even prettier in person!

Thanks for sharing the pics my friend! :)

Mr. Ford - just to give an idea of thre quality of room I got for $110. I presume the mongers out there range from poor-full-of-cum young guys to us older guys with less tolerance for cheap. I know I certainly used to stay at the cheapest places I could find when I was twenty-something. Now that I'm old and grey by stsandards are higher (probably because my budget is bigger).

Mr. Sexy Boy - I appreciate your advice but as we get older we value our pops more. Therefore the need for flirting, banter and doing it in my own room. 'Specially if the price is essentially the same. Thanks though, perhaps next time.

Anyway - I digress.

Day 4 PTY

Morning is pretty busy with no time for the sport. Up early, breakfast, work-out then work. Finally get a break about one & walk down to the Continental/Copa office next door to the Cown casino to confirm my flight for tomorrow. Luckily no issues. Then to the farmacia for some Bactrim & ampicilina then back to the room to drop it all off. Then off to Manolo's. BTW - from the Marriott to the Veneto casino area is a brisk 10 minutes walk even with my short legs. Lunch was surprisingly good there - got the 3-color sandwich & a Panama beer for $6. More than enough food. Lineup of gals at the pay phone in front of the restaurant, probably not pros.

Cross the street to the casino and promptly lose about $60. Then a cute blonde sits next to me & I decide not to leave. Still got work to do but decide to leave when my original $100 in red chips is gone. Still amazed at the splitting of 9's, and the wholesale surrenders going on. Luck turns slightly and I finally leave an hour later down exactly zero. Back to work.

Mr. Regulr Travlr- you know your shit. Went to the Royal Casino tonight about 8 planning on blowing a couple of hours & then heading over to the Veneto. What a difference a few hours makes. Saw Yary from the previous night - this time without the horrid clown eyeshadow. Damn she really looked fine. Promised to go to Veneto in two hours (I'm sure she assumed to meet her...). Noticed quite a few good lookers in the casino this time. Quite a few.

Anyway, settled down to a BJ table. Nice, 30ish lady once removed to my left. Most likely not a P4P'er based on her dress and her betting limits. Ailym sits between us, gives me several suggestive looks and 15 minutes later I'm cashing out. Can't help it if I'm a weak man - you only go 'round once in life.

Asking price was $200 I countered that I never go above $100 and off we went. Hey - it's my last night in town...

On the down side, as I head to Cartagena tomorrow it's becoming painfully clear that I'll need to consider chemical suppliments if I wish to keep up this pace. As Art Linkletter used to say - "Old age isn't for sissys".

My conclusion: Panama City is well worth a return trip but I'll be a little more selective from day one.

/Dan D.


[having some difficulty uploading pics of Ailym - will try again tomorrow]

Nice job on your final night Dan D. Ailym looks good. Although I was surprised by the size of those tatas under the shirt. Sound like a good farewell night.

Man you must have the good stuff - Yari knocking at your door at 4 AM and Mariana showing up in the lobby looking for you. Was it the size of the room or your smooth style?

Like you I stay away from the MP. The flirting and banter add to the potential GFE. And my room is alway much more comfortable than in the MPs.

I would buy your chemical enhancements in CTG. The pricing for the real stuff in PTY is pretty high.

I will be keeping an eye on the CTG boards for your updates.

Ford - here are a couple of pictures of my hotel room at the Marriott. The first is a picture of my chair table and couch. The second is my couch and stereo. Hope you like them better.

Regulr Travlr - Woof!! Now that's what I call a chair, table and couch!

I'll bet my Ikea and Ethan Allen catalogues don't feature any furnishings like that! :)

(Sara is a serious beauty!)

I will be traveling to Panama City next month. Can anyone suggest some good hotels?

I was in San Jose a few weeks ago, is there any bars or clubs like the Blue Marlin in Panama City.

What area of town is good to stay in where the action is?

Thanks

She looks like she's moving in for a year!!

of course i like the "flacka" chica!!!

Where will Ford's 800th post show up? With about 16 countries under his belt, we will have to wait and see??

Hey guys, seems like Capri is expanding its business, they are openning a new spot right in via venetto!!. Right in the same mall as Oasis, right above them, havent got the time to go and check them, actually not sure if there are open yet but just to give you a headstart on them

cheers!

Free Here,

Yes, I went to new Capri. Have no idea about pricing. There was about 11 OK, looking females. Considering it is right next to Hotel Venetto, its probably more expensive then the other Capri. To be honest I wont be going back for a while, would rather go to the "old" capri

Free

Gauntman/Free

Thanks for the update about the new location. I agree that it is probably more expensive than the other given the location. But for the visiting monger staying in one of the many hotels in the area it provides another option within walking distance. So the premium may be worth it.

One question - Is it a bar/brothel style like the old Capri or MP style? I am hoping for the former. It would be nice to have another place to sit and have a cerveza with the chicas.

Gauntman - good luck on your new venture. Maybe we can finally cross paths in Nicarauga.

[QUOTE=Regulr Travlr]Gauntman/Free



One question - Is it a bar/brothel style like the old Capri or MP style? I am hoping for the former. It would be nice to have another place to sit and have a cerveza with the chicas.
[/QUOTE]
Im pretty positive that its just like the one in rio abajo. and as free said, the price might be higher due to the location

[QUOTE=Regulr Travlr]Gauntman/Free

Gauntman - good luck on your new venture. Maybe we can finally cross paths in Nicarauga.[/QUOTE]

Ill be looking forward to it!!

Free Here,

Yes, the new Capri is the same style as the other. Just not as many ladies, and quality a little less.

not really a report, just to share some picture of my wonderful country.

[url]http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=107827[/url]

Regulr,

A buddy of mine hooked up with Sara when she was still at Life Girls. Is she an independent now.

We are going back later this year and would like to reunite them.

Thanks,

C

Yes Sara was a beauty from Life Girls.

Last I heard though she was back in Colombia. I have no idea if she came back to Panama. I was in Life Girls in September and she was not there. Most of the girls were new. I believe they come over on 6 or 9 month contracts. So not a lot of long term possibilities.

You and your friend will probably have to look for something new. Not really difficult in Panama.

[QUOTE=Sexy Boy]Hey Panamanian this site is for sex only not for stupid photos of your extra small country. By the way Panama is not a wonderful country and the people is uglya as shit down there.[/QUOTE]

I totally disagree with you and I feel shame for you that you have to express like that and using that kind of wording about people. if you have a grudge about panama and their people, do you post and read here? This should be the last place for you to be.

Its a shame that a very good atmosphere gets ruined by such comments that bring no good to this forum, as a matter of fact you start to sound like our neighbor from the other thread that does nothing but ill speak about panama

Although we are all here to educate ourselves on sex travel, understanding what a location has to offer is very important on our overall decision to go.

For Example: If someone posted that you could obtain the Hottest girls in the country of Haiti for $20.00 a night, it might appeal to a new monger with no travel experience.
However, after hearing about the current state of affairs there, and seeing photos of their capital city (neither of which have to do with SEX), one might be inclined to pass on the trip.

Another Example: On ones first trip to Cartagena, the touts might seem a little intimidating, or even ruin your trip. but after reading here what to expect and how to handle and ignore them, it becomes much more manageable.

Bottom line is: Sexy boy is pretty "green".
Although I must admit, Panamanian did leave out a few slum pictures, and a shot of the daily traffic jams in PC could have been informational.

"the one and only"

But also take into account that the inexperienced traveler might get biased on a loose comment about something as natural to the US cities as for Panama, traffic jams. True that there are many bad sides to any issue, a bad comment/experience shouldnt be the true reason of making a idea/impression about something without actually experiencing the the facts.

But anyways, we are here to talk about sex and their pros and non pros providers either in the street or the casinos, so lets drop this issue and keep posting experiences.

BTW, today there's gonna be a big international party at club next, the south american music conference, mostly an electronic music party with local djs and international ones. Pretty sure that all colombian good looking freelancers might prowling the area, but expect high price demand from them, since they'll be expecting you to have money since this kind of party isnt cheap but its not also expensive.

cheers

For the guys who are unfamiliar with the layout of Panama City:

I'm a Marriott wh*re - I support them nearly 100% of the time because I get such good service & so many upgrades and points. I selected the Marriott for my stay in PTY unsure if the location would be good or bad.

Bottom line: excellent location, excellent price ($110/nt & I was upgraded to a full suite). The Marriott is a 7 - 10 minute walk from the Venetto casino and all the activity in that area, yet it's off the main highways so there's really no road noise issues. The Royal Casino is adjacent and there's a number of eating places a half block away or so.

Highly recommended (unlike the Marriott in San Jose, Costa Rica).

/Dan D.

Or you can stay at the Veneto (Panamas newest hotel) which is a 7-10 second elevator ride to the Veneto Casino, price is much less, and right in the middle of all the action. And a great breakfast included as well. And at the Veneto you get thumbs up instead of dirty looks when cutting through the lobby with your hot Colombiana! As far as road noise goes, until I went out front, I never heard a thing. And the pool is on the 7th floor, great for when you don't feel like getting dressed for the lobby. At the Marriott you do have Habanos directly across the street. This makes it easy for your date to do ya and get right back downstairs to work. I perfer a little distance between work and home myself! I must admit the Marriott lobby was breath taking. But I can do without the points and the Chandaliers.

'the one and only"

[QUOTE=GauntMan]But also take into account that the inexperienced traveler might get biased on a loose comment about something as natural to the US cities as for Panama, traffic jams. True that there are many bad sides to any issue, a bad comment/experience shouldnt be the true reason of making a idea/impression about something without actually experiencing the the facts.

But anyways, we are here to talk about sex and their pros and non pros providers either in the street or the casinos, so lets drop this issue and keep posting experiences.

BTW, today there's gonna be a big international party at club next, the south american music conference, mostly an electronic music party with local djs and international ones. Pretty sure that all colombian good looking freelancers might prowling the area, but expect high price demand from them, since they'll be expecting you to have money since this kind of party isnt cheap but its not also expensive.

cheers[/QUOTE]

What exactly does this mean?

Dear Brethren Mongers,

I recently came back from a trip to Panama City and considered what kind of contribution I could make to this august forum. It ocurred to me to focus on classified ads placed in the electronic version of the Panama America newspaper (epasa.com). I consulted the classified for the previous three weeks before going and once in Panama started calling the numbers. These are the results:

1. In order to try this, you need to speak fairly good spanish.

2. You have to be very strict in your request. I asked for a thin girl with a good attitude. Thin as in no fat rolls and a firm belly. Breast size or height were not important.

3. Unless you have the time, calling off the newspaper ads is a very hit or miss proposition.

4. While prices are cheaper, the surprise factor is still pretty high, in spite of my direct questioning in terms of looks etc.

5. Girls are never on time.

6. Get a cel phone or else you will spend a lot of time dialing for sex.

Having said all of the above, I think it is better to troll the casinos, Habanos, or Miami Club or La Bodeguita looking for chicas.

Here are the results of my research. All the phones appeared in epasa, thus ok to publish.

6628-9241 25 thin big tits $50 white 38 bust Lily one girl call semi-pro

24 hrs. 6632-8439, 6705-2108 $60 for 1 hr several girls

LINDA CHICA dotada delgada muy sexy realiza y cumple todas tus fantasías 6528-1509 lm

LINDAS CHICAS hacen realidad tus fantasias. llama ahora ofertas hay. cel. 6505-1560 Any
ans machine, no message

6481-7314 Belkys before 8p thin 24 white blonde Barranquilla $80 very sweet Hotel Montreal only

6593-8247 Jeannette 26 thin short $50 short hair coming 24 hrs never showed

MASAJES A Domicilio 24 horas 6652-3857 24 white big boobs, ok body $50 1.5hr girl was a 7. Doable, but I wanted quality

MASAJES CRISTAL manicure, pedicure y masajes MP $12.00/hr massage. 6708-4961. Ave Balboa,
entrando por rampa edif gris iron door apt9 open from 1p to 8p. mp

$40 full service, bigger girls 6665-5173, 6516-9812

CHICA SEXY OFRECE MASAJE LLAMAR 6561-6655 - $100!

$50 Colombiana thin 19 sounds hot on the phone call tuesday 6514-4590 Paola likes incall

LOVELY MASAJES 6630-5771 HOTELES 264-3396 24 HORAS Hotel Los Arcos/Hotel Costa Azul $50 full service plus $10 for room for 2 hours

$70 hr thin brunette, 20 yrs supposed to be a looker 6739-0226

ZULEYCA CHICA extrovertida amorosa sexy profesional te hago de tus mejores momentos una realidad 6512-2459

Respectfully submitted for your enjoyment.

Monger on!

Why can't I seem to grasp these latest posts? Regular Traveler can you help me please? Did he do these girls, or was he just copying what these classifieds said? Hey someone pass the bottle of booze over to me. Man do I need glasses. A set with cracked lenses, so I can read Between the lines here.

Perhaps I didn't make a clear point on the objective of this exercise. I called all these classifieds looking for a thin chica with a good attitude. The phones are the actual phones posted and I have added commentary based on the phone conversations, actual meetings and in some cases doing the girls.

I figured this would be of use because we all wonder sometimes if there is any value in calling classifieds of the newspaper.

In my case, I think the experience was a mixed bag. Bottom line, if you have the time, call and check the girls out. If you don't like them send them back with cab fare money and a polite "thanks but no thanks."

Hope this sheds clarity. Pass the bottle and the glasses.

Well Fantasy whenever the "one and only" asks for my help I am honored.

I would say that I agree with his findings 1 thru 6 and his conclusion. My guess is that he tried a couple of these and then extrapolated from there. For example, the comment on Jeannette who never showed. The majority of these are just copied from the classifieds.

I would say don't call any of these unless it is Sunday, you are extremely horny and have not met anybody else.

But pass the bottle when you are finished, it might improve my eyesight.

By the way, know anybody who would like this one?

$40 full service, bigger girls 6665-5173, 6516-9812

WHAT?!!

This refers to the fact that I am the "one and only" monger who demands "10" quality at "4.5" pricing. I guess some would call it "being cheap". I like to think of it as, "thinking of my fellow mongers".

Free Here

I just recently purchased a new car. The good thing is it attracts females, if you are the type to honk your horn and see if a chic will come to the car (which I am not.) And obviously I can drive now as opposed to taking Taxis everywhere.
The only bad thing, is the car is a little too flashy (convertible, etc), so due to common sense I cant and wont just drive it anywhere. So im drive to Dico Foxi on Monday evening. Police pull me over. Ask for ID, I give them my USA Drivers L. They say I need an internantional drivers license, which is a lie. So after about 10 mins of me acting like I am a stupid gringo that doesnt speak any spanish they say, well you are going to have to come to the police station with us so we can check on some things. I immediately say NO, and tell them im in a rush I have someone waiting for me. They say, well we need to give you a ticket. I respond by saying, fine, but let me pay the ticket right NOW, aka bride them. They respond, ok, and I gave each of them $20 (probably more then I should have!!). The whole experience wasnt that bad, they were actually cool, and after I gave them the money they help me find parking, lol. That was my first experience having to pay off a cop, so now I know how to handle it from here on out.

After dealing with the cops I went to Miami Club. I have not been in ages so I just decided to check it out. They have remodeled, it looks like an American style strip club, elevated dance floor throughout the club,comfortable couches, low lights, actually looks much better then before. Considering I wasnt there to purchase, just get some water, I didnt price anything. About 10 girls present, all 6-8s.

I have only called a classified ad once here in Panama. It was a bad experince (She was an old, overweight Colombian). But what I have done and had some success is put an ad in the local newspaper looking for a girlfriend. My phone was ringing, but I had MUCH MORE success doing that in other countries such as Dominican Republic, colombia. Anywho, this weekend this going to be shit here, they are having some independence thing, everything is closed up.

Free

I have visited River Club twice in the past week. As indicated elsewhere here, it is difficult to find. When driving, turn onto Via Argentina from Via Espana at the Blockbuster. About 50 meters north, turn into a small, unmarked, one-lane driveway with a wall obscuring the entrance. The driveway opens into a large parking lot surrounded by 2-story bldgs. River Club is on your left with a bright sign. Ring the doorbell to enter.

On both visits, I encountered 5 to 10 women waiting. All seemed to be 6 to 8 (all were sitting, but seemed to have nice bods). The price was $60, completo. Reports below suggested higher, but maybe that was the tourist price or they've lowered their price.

The rooms were a little dingy and rugged, but clean, including a standard bed, sofa, and full bathroom. They were about the same quality as the rooms at Oasis.

The women I experienced were friendly, accommodating, and not rushed. I selected one morenita panameña that was excellent.

Basically, I would judge it as a competitive experience to Golden Time, just a tad less on every scale. That includes $24 less on price, 10 min less driving across town, and less potential shame in parking in GT's strip mall parking lot while there's a reception at the place next door.

Firstly I want to put it out there that I'll be coming to PTY for a short trip starting on Wed 11/29, and if anyone out there wants to meet up, let me know. I've mongered plenty in CR and Colombia, but my first time in PTY (gotta burn up some excess vaca time).

Secondly, I want to thank everyone on this list for your informative and often insightful posts. I datamined many of your reports and now I feel like I can almost hit the ground running when I arrive.

Thirdly, part of hitting the ground running is about knowing where you are and having a good feel of an area via a map is always helpful for starters. But there are few if any decent maps of PTY online. Additionally, have any of you used Google Earth to look at downtown PTY? There's a big fat CLOUD right on top of the Cangrejo area. What bad timing. Anyone have access to photo satellite in geonsynchronous orbit around PTY for another photo?

So here are all the map sites that I could find so far. If you have any others, please let us know:

[url]http://centralamerica.com/panama/city.htm[/url]

[url]http://www.chagres.com/maps.html[/url] (see Panama City Map Section)

[url]http://www.lasvegaspanama.com/en/panama-city-map.html[/url]

[url]http://www.venetocasino.com/online/index.php?lang=en&load=QWJvdXQgVXM=&tpl=01_ubicacion.html[/url]

[url]http://www.focuspublicationsint.com/focuspanama/pmacitymap.htm[/url] (click on blue area for detailed maps - main map not showing up in FFox).

[url]http://www.focuspublicationsint.com/focuspanama/en/maps.htm[/url]

Hey, who ordered radio silence?? this is too quiet!!

Gaunt Man

There is a national period of mourning by the chicas due to your move to Managua.

For my own sake I hope it ends soon!

Buena Suerte

I hear it is suppose to last seven more days!!

[QUOTE=Regulr Travlr]Gaunt Man

There is a national period of mourning by the chicas due to your move to Managua.

For my own sake I hope it ends soon!

Buena Suerte[/QUOTE]

Dang! I told them not to mourn, instead to party!! No really, havent seen any reports lately, no mongering during these days?? As for my trip since it was election time in nicaragua we decided to delay the trip and see how everything comes up after that. Ill be leaving(God willing there wont be any more delays)on the 21st, most probable we'll open ending november or december 6th

I heard the country of Panama has voted to widen the canal in hopes that it might keep the "Gaunt" from departing. Guess it wasn't enough.

Gentlemen,

I am traveling to Panama City in a few weeks.

I have read a lot of the posts to get some good information.

I was planning to stay at the Marriot Downtown. I have read that it was a good hotel and a good location.

As for some places to go, I have read a lot of reports. But what I was looking for is a bar where a lot of the working girls go. I am looking for a place like the Blue Marlin in San Jose. I have never been a big fan of strip bars.

Can anyone suggest anywhere to try?

Please let me know.

Thanks

[QUOTE=TravelWind]Gentlemen,



I was planning to stay at the Marriot Downtown. I have read that it was a good hotel and a good location.

As for some places to go, I have read a lot of reports. But what I was looking for is a bar where a lot of the working girls go. I am looking for a place like the Blue Marlin in San Jose. I have never been a big fan of strip bars.

Can anyone suggest anywhere to try?



Thanks[/QUOTE]

Try Farmers, on Via España across the street from McDonald's and Hospital San Fernando, a favorite after work place for WGs, especially Colombianas.

Majagualo

Greetings,

The downtown Marriott is a fine choice.

Nice rooms and very comfortable.

Chica friendly. Just sign them in at the front desk.

Accross the street is Habano's. Very busy with independents. Some of them are stunner's. So as you exit the main lobby of the Marriott, just go straight accross the street and you are there.

Second choice is to walk (5 min) to the Veneto Cassino. Go to the main bar on the second floor. Many high end Colombian chicas.

I was just in Panama City last week.

Prices at these two locations:

They will ask for $100 an hour. Offer $100 for 2-3 hours.

For TLN offer $150 after midnight along with breakfast in the
morning.

One more idea. Take the cab to the Miami Club. There were no shortages of fine girls there last week. $80 for an hour plus small tip if you were happy. Nice place, nice girls.

Hope this helps you.

Most of your questions have been answered previously in the forum.

The one that has not I will answer.

Habanos, across the street from the Marriott, is not open on Sunday.

A little time and effort will get you everything you need.

Gentlemen,

Thanks for all the information.

Majagualo, what is Farmers? Is it a bar?

[QUOTE=TravelWind]Gentlemen,

Thanks for all the information.

Majagualo, what is Farmers? Is it a bar?[/QUOTE]

It's a bar/discoteca, kind of run down but okay, don't expect to see anything except locals and wg's on off time. Always a fun place Thur thru Fri.

[QUOTE=TravelWind]

Majagualo, what is Farmers? Is it a bar?[/QUOTE]Dear friend I wouldn’t recommend going to that place “Farmer”. It’s outside the foreigners secure area so if you go there you are likely to be robbed.

I recommend you stay near by the hotels area because these Panamanians are dangerous. As soon they notice you are foreigner they will try to cheat you.

[QUOTE=Majagualo]It's a bar/discoteca, kind of run down but okay, don't expect to see anything except locals and wg's on off time. Always a fun place Thur thru Fri.[/QUOTE]

Try also La Bodeguita, in Calle 48 and Uruguay Ave, opens 7 days a week. Lots of independents and wg off duty

Free Here,

Yes,La Bodeguita Is WAAAYY better then Farmers. I passed through Farmers maybe about a week ago, it was literally empty. La Bodeguita hands down.

[QUOTE=Sexy Boy]Dear friend I wouldn’t recommend going to that place “Farmer”. It’s outside the foreigners secure area so if you go there you are likely to be robbed.

I recommend you stay near by the hotels area because these Panamanians are dangerous. As soon they notice you are foreigner they will try to cheat you.[/QUOTE]

"foreigners secure area" ? Who let this idiot out of his hole in the wall? Do you think they may actually try and speak some other language too? maybe Spanish? I tell you it a scary world....

i think sexy boy is our old eurotrash friend and everyone's favorite ****, pty sexy. here's a quote of his from kos's thread,

"i think all america; from canada to argentina is pure shit, especially where the gringos lives. they should know that europe is far better that this shit and we are superior."

that said, the one time i went to farmer's, about 2:00 am on a weekend, it sucked, bad. only dogs, and the majority were with boyfriends. but i wonder if it might be better around 5:00 am or so after gt/elite/le palace shut down. supposedly some of the colombianas go there for a drink or for the food next door. to late (or early, depending on your point of view) for me though. majagualo, what was farmer's like the times you were there? any luck picking someone up?

[quote=majagualo]"foreigners secure area" ? who let this idiot out of his hole in the wall? ...[/quote]

Tiny 12,

Farmers has always been just kind of the local bar/dance place that plays a lot of salsa/merengue that draws in many Colombiana's, locals, non-working and wg. It's a good place to go to just hang and get known, after that it's impossible to leave alone. Not a good place to enter one time and hope to snag something in an hour and split. I wouldn't stay up until 5am to play if I knew Shakira was coming in and available, I've always gone on Thursday, Friday or Saturday nights, after 10pm.

Majagualo

[quote=tiny 12]i think sexy boy is our old eurotrash friend and everyone's favorite ****, pty sexy. here's a quote of his from kos's thread,
[/quote]
i think is kos himself under another nick, but lets leave those loosers alone to rot

Well, seems like these are going to be my last reports directly from panama city, Im leaving on tuesday the 21st for managua, so here it is.

Capri

Went early around 9:30pm, plenty of girls available. Ongoing stage show, the dancer looks hot, athletic build, thin, long black hair, absolutely between 8-10 in the chart.

Floor girls
Like in all places some not so good looking but the average went between 7-10. Picked up a fully packed doll, blonde, around 1.70m tall named Carolina. Absolute stunner, nice talker, face wasnt a complete wow, but her body made it up. Going price for 15 mins is between $8-10, as I went up for 30 mins paid $20 and got $4 in change. They provide you the rubber but not sure if they charged me for it.
Carolina @ the deed gets my top rate. No hurry at all. Boobs looked natural, not huge but very responsible. Closer examination was a little inconclusive as I wasnt able to spot operation signs.

If you´re in panama I definately recommend you to visit Capri.

Where is this place? Somehow I have managed to miss it.

Just search in this forum, the info is there. Here it is:

Club Capri (Formerly known as Club Fenix) is in Rio Abajo in Calle 16 (16th Street). If coming from downtown, tell the driver to go on Villa Espana straight to Rio Abajo. On 16th street, the driver must make a left turn (No other way to turn).

Also [url]http://capriclubpanama.com[/url]

The good news is that there is something going on fairly early.

Also:

Capri II: Hey guys, seems like Capri is expanding its business, they are openning a new spot right in via venetto!!. Right in the same mall as Oasis, right above them, havent got the time to go and check them, actually not sure if there are open yet but just to give you a headstart on them
Thanks for the update about the new location. I agree that it is probably more expensive than the other given the location. But for the visiting monger staying in one of the many hotels in the area it provides another option within walking distance. So the premium may be worth it.
Yes, the new Capri is the same style as the other. Just not as many ladies, and quality a little less.'

thx. I always think of it as Fenix. Just skipped a note in my head I guess...

Planetfall made in Managua @ 11:30am preliminary scouting spotted elite and another club named solid gold, moving now to post on the nicaragua thread. Gauntman over and out from panama, cya @ Managua!!

Gentlemen,

A post suggested a place called La Bodeguita.

I am going to be in Panama for a short time this visit.

It will be a Sunday and a Monday night.

Is the La Bodeguita a bar or a MP or a strip club? Will it be open on Sunday?

Any suggestions for a Sunday?

Thanks for the help.

Free Here,

La Bodeguita is open on Sunday, it is a bar. You will be able to spot the pros.
Elite is open on sundays and also Miami club. I am not sure if golden time is open. The Veneto and other Casinos will have pros walking around. Others add info.

Free

Golden Time is open on Sundays, unless something has changed. The first and last time I went on a Sunday it sucked -- only a few women, none attractive. I think that's the day off for a lot of them.

Greetings,

Was in Panama City just two weeks ago and the Miami Club (or Club Miami) was solid gold. About 20-25 girls and about 2/3 of them far above the norm. Plus, it WAS Sunday night. Liked in so much I went back Monday night and it was great again.

Also, cant go wrong with a visit to the Veneto Casino main bar on the second
floor.

Have fun

Thanks for the information everyone.

How far away is the La Bodeguita from the Marriot Downtown?

What about the Miami Club is it far?

Thanks

Miami is a bit of a taxi ride. Not bad though. Under $5. It is in a totally different district. I forget the name of it. I like the selection of girls in Miami, but not sure what Sunday is like. Beware fo the chica drinks. They add up fast.

La Bodeguita is minutes from the Marriott via taxi.

I personally like La Bodeguita. It is a fun, normal bar atmosphere. There are a mix of pro's and regular girls there. Also the elusive semi-pro. We found several who were just doing P4P for some extra money. They had other jobs. Pricing is al over the board. There is no standard here.

My only warning on the La Bodeguita is that it is LOUD in there. They always have a DJ or band. If your Spanish is weak it will be difficult to talk and negotiate.

Have fun and we look forward to your reports.

I thought I read a report on the Miami Club.
I cannot seem to find it.
So, how does the club work?
I hear the lady drinks are expensive.

Can anyone give me any more details?

Im looking at panama for a future trip and was hoping someone could give me some insight.
After reading some posts I sense most of the action are from independents found at bars and clubs. Are there any low end casas or brothels with beds? The going rate seems to be $60 -100 is this correct?....no budget deals I guess.
Ive read from other members that there isnt much to do outside of panama city. So I guess my vision of staying at a nice beach area snorkling etc. is out of the question...its all private property?

Thanks,

Artisttyp

Miami will remind you very much of an American strip club when you go in. However, all girls are available. Usually a large selection. Try to arrive between 10 and 11.

Lady drinks are $10 and the girls share in the profits. To take a girl in the room there will cost you about 100. To take a girl out will cost a barfine of 120 and the girl will ask for 200.

Contrary to KOS I always have fun in Life Girls. It is right downtown and an easy walk from the Marriott.

To each his own.

travlr who you shitting. where ever theres multiple pieces of hair pie you have fun. lol spider

Thanks for the information on Miami.

So, where is Life Girls from the Marriot?

Do you have an address?

Is it like the Miami setup?

Thanks

A quick trip back to Panama allowed me only Saturday, during the day, to do some investigating.

It turned out only to be window shopping, as nothing was compelling enough to take for a spin. Basically, I was looking for that elusive bargin locale. The nature of my travel, and travel companions, was that I could only hunt during the day, but I did have a rental car.

First I checked out the "Nueva Gruta Azul" which is on Via Espana about 5 miles east of the Cangrego area. Look for a freshly painted royal blue wall on the left hand side as you drive out of the city that has a reclining woman siloutte painted in white. If you see the large Melo complex, you've gone too far.

I wasn't sure it was even open, but an older Asian guy walked in and a tout asked us if we wanted chicas. We followed him back into this complex of hallways with dozens of locked room. The tout knocked on doors, but either the chicas didn't answer, or claimed to be tired or otherwise uninterested in working. They had Panamanian rather than Colombian accents. The asian guy managed to find an open door, and apparently wasn't choosy since he paid as soon as the door opened. I notice that he paid what looked to be about 17 bucks, but when I asked the tout, he told me that it would be 36 (37?) for half an hour. I asked why the discrepancy, and he claimed that I didn't have a cedula (how he knew that the asian guy did, and I didn't I'll never know, but whatever). I hopped out of there pretty quick.

I was actually hunting for Club Capri, which has gotten several positive reviews on the board. Let me tell you, the cabbies must all know this place, but the current driving directions on this board suck. You have to keep going on Via Espana about 2-3 miles. While it is on Calle 17, the only calles with signs all have numbers that range from the upper 80s to the low 100s. After the Melo, there is a diagonal road on the left hand side, beyond this is locally known as calle 13. Start counting, it is about 1 km until you get to 17. I believe that there is a McDonalds on the corner. This is a small road, and it leads to a rather sketchy neighborhood. When I stopped and asked for directions in the area, people told me to be careful. That is only the second time in about 50 trips to Panama that I've been warned about a neighborhood. About 150 meters down "calle 17" their is a sign that simply says "capri that has one of those large metal industrial doors. I parked for about 20 seconds and nobody responded. I doubled back and saw a bottle blond about 45 that had serious high mileage on her leave the club. I'm talking scary high mileage: remember that old truck comercial where the dad stops in the middle of the bridge to hand the truck keys over to his son because the odometer flipped? This lady was just about to be passed from the son to the grandson....scary. I got out of there.

Next I went to Royal Elegance, which is another joint that is hard to find, but I've described in an earlier post. Lots of cars in the lot, and they had about 6 girls on duty. All Panamanians, none awesome. They were all in the 4-5 category (I've noticed a great deal of rating inflation on this board, for reference that is about the second tier at Golden Times, with the upper tier going 6-7, the only 8-9s in Panama are at Le Palace). They wanted 80 for an hour and 60 for 45 minutes. In my experience, you don't get a second pop whenever you pay for more time, so the 60 is the better option. But I personally didn't think that there was any worth 60 bucks (let's say I wasn't that horny), though they had a flat chested woman who enjoyed making eye contact, all the other girls were awkward, so I am guessing that flattie would have given good service.

After that I went to River Club and Relax. Both are in this recessed shopping center that you get to by passing the Blockbuster on Via Espana (heading back towards the city) and taking an immdediate right. The tout at River Club wasn't there, which was a relief, since I've probably gone in and out of there 5 times without ever selecting a girl. Two panamanian girls were sitting in the back. Again, 4-5, and they wanted 60 for the hour. Crossing the parking area you'll get to Relax, but you won't see it until you commit, since they've got plants blocking the sign. The usual madam is there, a woman who looks like the twin of the Capri woman. She had one girl, with a sad face and way to much makeup. I think that the maven recognized me, becasue she tried a different approach quoting me prices. It was 20 for massage (which raised my eyebrows) and then 48 for the girl, but she'd give me the girl for 35...i.e. 55. No dice, I left.

Finally, I tried to find Hawaian Center, which is in the phone book, but I've never found. It is near the Roma hotel in the Calidonia area. On the one way street that passes the Roma, take the first left and look immediately to your left. Behind a bunch of plants you'll see a neon sign that says massage. There were 3 girls in there, they wanted 60 bucks for the hour. The girls were again 4-5.


It seems like there is market collusion to set the hour price at MP at 60 bucks. For most of you, during the day, the absolute best deal is the Oasis. They have a mix of girls (4-7) but I've been able to find attractive, good service Colombianas, and the 50 dollar lunch special is the best price in the MP market. At night, I still like Golden Times, since they gave me a 65 dollar half hour deal. And the best service that I ever had was at Life Girls. I've had the best pre-act fun at Miami, just because the girls are so raunchy and they really work you up before you seal the deal. I still find it hard to order a girl like I'm at the take out window at McDonalds. Miami is much more of the stip club type deal, where the chicas work you like a stripper back home would, trying to sell you the back door service. However, I've always left that place feeling a bit cheated (see my earlier posts). So buyer beware. And I've never gotten them to lower the price of 80+ dollars for the hour (I think I got hosed for condoms and "room" on at least one visit), and I speak very good spanish. To get there, you have to find El Dorado. Go on the Tumbo Muerto until you see the old schoold McDonalds. Turn left and take a right at the first light. It will be on your right hand side and there is a bunch of neon. You can't miss it. A taxi from the Venetto should be 3 bucks, but if you tell them where you are going, you are sure to be gouged. Better to mention the Nikos Cafe in El Dorado, which is about 100 yards away from Miami.

Life Girls about 5-10 minutes walking from the Mariott. Head north towards the Venetto, you'll get to a big stree called Via Espana. Life Girls is on your side of the stree, right below the only pedestrian overpass in the area. It is on the second floor, next to a large grocery (rey).

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I met a new guy, Tony who used to live in the states. He has a couple of nice cars, one is a normal taxi but new. The other is larger not sure of the make. He provides full service. Airport, around town, and tourism. He also has a number of chica contacts. He is particularly helpful in the daytime when things are bit slow. A couple of the girls are off duty Le Palace chicas, so you know they are pretty decent. You can reach him on PTY cell 65091698. I will add his email address later, Mention that you saw him on ISG. We discussed this board. His email is [email]spaky2000@hotmail.com[/email]

I was in LB on Monday night with my novia, her sister and another girl. The place was rockin because Tuesday was a holiday. Real good mix of people. A lot of WG Saw one hottie, a 9 on the Fantasy scale. She was in a green top, denim mini skirt and had long dark hair, Anybody on the board end up with her? I saw her leave with a gringo looking guy.

Interesting phenomenon. About 1 the place started to empty out a bit. Then at 1:30 it was crowded again. It looked like a change in the WG population. Those who had not hooked up left and some new one s came in.

Sign of the Apocolypse in Panama -

1. A blond hooker is driving around in a white BMW convertible.
2. 3 girls parked an Audi on the side street then went to work at Habanos.


Punk - great to see you back in PTY. Your reports always very detailed.

Travelwind - with the all the info you have gotten we expect some great reports. Once you are on the ground you will find everything very easily.

Spider - you know I am much more discerning than that. I am in search of deep meaningful conversation! As well as nice firm natural breasts.

When in PC , I stay at the Las Vegas, and visit the Casino across the street after 11:00 On a most recent visit it was packed,, I have always found a decent woman for no more than $60 for one hour and most stay longer, and three great eating establishments right up the street, Why fight success!

Thanks for the information.

I will try the LB on Sunday night and Monday.

I visited Caribbean Nights, or Caribbean Palace, or whatever it's called. It's on the main street off Tumba Muerto west of the retro McDonald's, Golden Time, and near Miami. It's in an unoccluded strip mall across from the Do It Center at the bottom of the hill, before the Corredor Norte.

After reading a few poor reports on the place, I wasn't optimistic, but figured I'd try something new. I was quite surprised. About 10 women greeted me in the lounge. Some were most excellent, but a few were quite unattractive. On average, they were a notch or two below Golden Time or Miami, but definitely on par with Oasis. (I don't want to get accused of rating inflation.) Most were darker skinned, dark haired, and less enhanced compared to the bottle blonds at GT. Luckily, I prefer the olive skinned beauties.

It's a MP style joint. A client quickly selects an amiga and retreats to a room. The rooms are little slummy, but the massage table was sturdy and comfy. The rooms are poorly lit, and there was a gap at the top of the wall where I could hear the activities in the adjacent room. The rooms have a sink, but no shower or toilet.

My particular amiga tonight (Luz) actually gave an excellent massage-definitely more than the light contact and cursory waves of most places. I was quite impressed. It was a little odd that after the massage, she acted as if the session was over. I had to request servicio completo, and the request was fulfilled. It was relatively pedestrian and businesslike, but satisfactory. The price, completo, was $70.

Overall, it seemed to me that the quality was more than enough to justify the $14 savings over GT up the street, even more so if you are lucky enough to get one of the real lookers.

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Mongers of panama,

How is the level at Le Palace and Elite?

Can a monger tell us about the level of the girls down there and the prices?

Thanks in advance.

Read the forum, tons of info on both.

The new Capri - The only thing it has in common with the other Capri is the name. They have tried to make a very upscale (read expensive) place. It is very nice looking inside, but small. There were less than 10 girls when I went there. Nothing outstanding. But probably a little better quality than the other club. Chica drinks are pushed here and are over $10! There are no rooms on site, however if you want a girl short time it is $100. They use the rooms downstairs in Oasis. Offsite is $200. I assume this is an hour and not TLN. As I thought they have tried to establish a place in walking distance of the upscale hotels. They have priced it as an upscale establishment. I am sure they will keep busy with newbies walking around Via Veneto who want to sit and have a drink with a girl, but you can accomplish the same thing inside Veneto Casino.

Cristal Moon - How is this place still open? I went in about 2:30 on Wednesday night. I was the ONLY guy in there all the rest were staff. Back in September we went in early, about 11 and the only other guys were locals. I do not see how they can afford this place. This place cannot last long unless they are just a front for something else.

Le Palace - Stopped in Monday after LB on the way back to the Marriott. Place was crowded. Quality of girls still high. Lot of guys still taking girls out at the crazy pricing. Almost all Americans in there.

Next - The club has closed at its current location. Apparently the building owners had a problem with the club. Word is they are looking for a new location. This may be difficult given the large size of this club.

Hello ppl!!! how has panama city been treating you guys lately?

[QUOTE=Regulr Travlr]

Cristal Moon - How is this place still open? I went in about 2:30 on Wednesday night. I was the ONLY guy in there all the rest were staff. Back in September we went in early, about 11 and the only other guys were locals. I do not see how they can afford this place. This place cannot last long unless they are just a front for something else.

Next - The club has closed at its current location. Apparently the building owners had a problem with the club. Word is they are looking for a new location. This may be difficult given the large size of this club.[/QUOTE]

Cristal Moon is definately a front for something else, in its whole existence I havent heard anything from them like radio spots or promos on the stree like flyers and the like.

Next is closing on the jan 1st since they sold the land for around 14mil and the clubs original cost was around 2mil. I think the spot is where D Trump is making a building.
Like if the owner cares for next as he's already millionare even before thinking in making next and is also rumored that he has ties to the russian mob

I'm staying at the Veneto Hotel right now and am impressed. This place reminds me of an Asian hotel. There's a decent (not excellent) selection of hookers in the casino on the second floor, maybe about 40 last night. I ended up leaving with an attractrive brunette from Medellin and paid $70 for an hour and a half. Service was very good -- GFE++.

There is no walk of shame from the casino. You just enter the elevator from the casino level and put your key card in the reader in the elevator. I did walk in the front door last night though with a drunk hooker dressed like a **** that I practically had to carry to keep her from dropping on the floor. I didn't deviate to the casino, and all I got from the doormen were smiles. They seemed to appreciate the entertainment.

Habano's was closed last night (Sunday night). I went by La Bodeguita for the first time. It was crowded, and as somebody else said here noisy. The best lookers appeared to be nonpros. I left after about 30 minutes and headed to Elite.

Elite still must have the best shows in Panama, although quality is down a little since my last visit. For what it's worth, Elite hires a professional choreographer, a gay guy that does a pretty good job.

One woman was absolutely stunning. Majority of the others were attractive -- 7 pluses.

I ended up spending time at Elite with Sarita. She's a Colombian from Medellin (aside: are all these women really from Medellin????), with a drop dead beautiful body, a 9 or a 10, and better than average face. I got a private dance that was raunchy as hell ($28) and started feeding her tequila shots at $15 a round. I was blowing a bundle but was having a great time. The deal for take out at Elite is you pay $150, less the value of any drinks you've bought. That's for the club, and you negotiate a separate deal with the girl. I ended up buying her 10 drinks, the last 3, which she killed right around 4:00. This made it where she could leave for the night without having to come back. (If it were before 4:00 she'd have to check in by 6:00.) This also made her drunk on her ass.

Service was excellent. She was around until 3:00 this afternoon, and has been initiating raunchy sex every hour she's awake. I am totally drained -- don't know if I'm going to do anything tonight. As agreed, I paid her $250, so this evening ended up costing me 3X more than what I've every spent on a woman in Panama. Except for a Golden Time hooker I took out for all night that did a runner on me at 2:30 AM. Anyway, Sarita (the Elite dancer) was worth it, in my opinion.

This compressed file has placemarks for Google Earth locating some of the more popular locations discussed on this board. I don't claim it's all inclusive, and I'm not sure it even works (or in fact is permitted).

I know Capri and a couple of clubs downtown are missing.

Unfortunately, there is a cloud obscuring many places in El Cangrejo. Stupid cloud.

Tiny: I agree with your assessment of the Veneto girls. Good, but nothing outstanding. I only saw 7-8 girls there each night.

Your report motivated me to post a pic of my favorite Veneto girl, Yanela. I just posted it in the photo section. Have you seen her working in the casino on this trip?

Tiny:
Im happy that you had a good time with sarita, but $250 is way too much to pay for a single girl, for that amount you could have arranged an all nighter with 2 girls!!, not counting all the drinks you payed her. $100 should have been your absolute max since you could have arranged her to go to your place after closing time. If your budget can handle it fine, but try to look at the whole picture, if you always pay them what they want, it gets a lot difficult for everybody else that doesnt have a big spending budget to negotiate to an acceptable level.

Just my 2 pennies

Hi Gauntman,

I appreciate your effort to wise these guys up, but in Panama it is clear that many of these guys will pay any amount for sex and don't care that it raises the price for everyone else. They have the money and they don't mind spending it.

When I was preparing for my trip to Panama last June I was reading prices starting at $30, but by the time I got there the average price I was quoted started at $80. Now you have guys telling stories of $250 and up.

I like Panama but I don't like the mongering scene there. Too many Americans with too much money and too little sense. There are plenty of good mongering destinations not filled with horny old American men trying to blow all their savings before they die.

I saw a guy leave with an ugly black girl at Habanos. Since they sat next to me at the bar I overheard the negotiations. He paid $200 for an ugly girl I wouldn't touch with your dilk.

I saw few stunningly beautiful women in Panama. I decided early on if I saw one that really turned me on, I would move quickly. Maybe that's why some guys overpay when they see something appealing.

I started at the Veneto Casino about 9:00 PM. Nothing worth writing home about, maybe 10 hookers and quality was poor, although I expect based on Sunday it gets better later. The Capri on Veneto upstairs from Oasis is at same place where a dumpy strip club was previously located. Not much has changed with the new ownership, except the women are marginally better looking (maybe average of 6's) and prices have gone up. I was quoted a price of $70 for short time, lower than what Reglr Travlr reports, but this was for maybe a "5". The $70 includes the room price, as noted by Reglr Travlr.

A swing through Manolo across the street from the Veneto Hotel and the casinos at the Hotel Panama, Continental Hotel, and Marriott yielded nada. I think a lot of the chicas have migrated to the Veneto Casino. I saw several streetwalkers around Espana and Veneto, all of whom appeared to be Panamenas. (Maybe the Colombianas are afraid of the police?)

I next went to La Habana. Quality here wasn't all that hot, but I ended up pulling Estrella, a chica from Bogota with giant breasts. She had a great personality, lots of fun, and we spent a couple of hours drinking and eating dinner before heading back to my hotel. Service was great. Actually, all three of the chicas I saw in Panama on this trip provided exceptional service. I guess maybe that's an advantage to going with the freelancers instead of the MP's.

I was exhausted from spending the previous 24 hours copulating with Sarita, the Elite dancer, and had a plane to catch the next morning, so I turned Estrella lose around 1:00 AM. I started to slip about $50 in her purse, then thought about how I was going to get flamed for what I wrote yesterday (paying Elite hooker $250), so slipped her $70 instead, which made her pretty happy when she discovered it.

My opinion of Hotel Veneto changed a bit. They charged me $30/night more at checkout than they quoted at check-in, or $145 plus tax. At that price, Intercontinetal Miramar and Bristol are better buys, although not as guest friendly. Veneto's staff is friendly, but kind of stupid, and a couple of things in the room didn't work. Maybe I'll try the Mariott next time that I'm willing to spend some bucks.

Allover: I didn't see Yanela. Agreed -- the stunningly beautiful women I've seen in Panama have been at Golden Time, Le Palace and Elite, and if you want to spend TLN with one it's going to cost more than $100 unless you really clic with her.

Gauntman: As always, you're informative and diplomatic, and I can't really disagree with what you wrote. I had a day and a half to monger at the end of a 10 day business trip and was in the mood for a good time and some quality poontang. I was happy with what I got, and don't think I was running up the price for everyone else (although I wouldn't care if I did.) In my experience, 9's and 10's in Elite and Le Palace will go at best for $100 for a couple of hours during daytime, after some hard negotiating, so I don't think I got ripped too bad for almost 24 hours. Her first offer was pay $250 for a bottle of champagne, let's go to the VIP room, and then you can pay me some more. Her second offer was $250 for 2 hours. I did definitely get ripped off by the club for the drinks.

Elberto: Respectfully, I'm not particulary old. I have spent $20-$25 for hookers in Panama before. Hell, I've spent days with hookers in Panama and Colombia who didn't charge me anything. Although admittedly there were occasional requests for money for Mom or brain surgery (honestly) that came later. In addition to running up the price of women, I'm also sorry I'm blowing it for all you seafood lovers out there by occasionally spending $40 on a meal at Red Lobster.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]
There is no walk of shame from the casino. You just enter the elevator from the casino level and put your key card in the reader in the elevator. I did walk in the front door last night though with a drunk hooker dressed like a **** that I practically had to carry to keep her from dropping on the floor. I didn't deviate to the casino, and all I got from the doormen were smiles. They seemed to appreciate the entertainment.

.[/QUOTE]


Tiny

When I first started to read this I thought this was one of Spidermonkey's reports. All his girls are as you described!

I am glad you finally "looked up" and found Veneto. It can be a bit schizophrenic. When I was in town in September it was dead. There was some sort of "crackdown" on Colombianas then. A couple of weeks ago on a Sunday night it was as you described. I guess one reason that Sundays are good is that you get a lot of off duty girls from other clubs who are looking to make a few extra bucks.

I have only stayed there for one night. The rooms are OK, but the Marriott is much nicer. If you bring a girl back after midnight there are only men on duty in the lobby, so the walk of shame is not too bad.

Thanks for the 4:00 AM tip on Elite. I still have not been in there, but your info has helped my strategy.

Travlr

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]In addition to the running up the price of women, I'm also sorry I'm blowing it for all you seafood lovers out there by occasionally spending $40 on a meal at Red Lobster.[/QUOTE]

I took a friend to Red Lobster Saturday night and drinks and food added up to $68.24. I didn't give the waitress $250.

But like I said, you folks with more money than sense can have Panama. I'm off to new destinations. I just feel sorry for the guys who used to be able to enjoy Panama for a reasonable price before everyone discovered it and dicked it up.

Travlr, re: Elite, best strategy is to set up a date for the next day, or tell her to come to your hotel after work. I did this once -- she came to the Hotel Ejecutivo at 5:15 AM, stayed a couple of hours and charged $100. She was pretty tired and so was I so it didn't work out real well. If you do this, be discrete. At Elite (but not Le Palace), management will fire the girl if they catch her doing something on the side. I think I'll take your advice and stay at the Mariott next time. I'm beginning to come around to your way of thinking, that the freelancers are better than GT and the MP's.

Elberto, the people dicking up the price aren't mongers on vacation, they're businessmen. And Panama, with possible exception of Mexico, has the highest per capita income in Latin America -- it's not Peru.

I feel a bit down right now, back in the land of the gringa and invisibility. But for 5 days I lived like a king, to choose whomever I wanted to share my bed (well...most of the time). It cost me - Panama is not cheap, especially if you go for the Colombiana$, but it was fun; one of its main strengths is the great variety of venues, action and chicas from various countries. In the end, it was the Panamanian chicas who won my heart as well as my crotch. And like many a monger has noted, unless you work it out beforehand, there's not a lot of choices during the day (except for Oasis, which pleasantly surprised me, future report).

My trip started on a high note, meeting a cute little Panamanian on the flight from Panama to Houston. Her brother was picking her up at the airport, and she offered me a ride to downtown to save $ for the 'expensive' cab ride, which I thought was very sweet and generous, but we lost each other in the confusion of immigration.

In any case, I had Alex the taxista waiting for me, on recommendations from Dollar Bill and Coqui. I called his home and his wife took the message and he was waiting for me with a sign of my name. He took me on a short tour of the hot spots downtown, Elite, Le Palace, Habanos, Life Girls, etc., before I checked into Veneto Hotel.

Veneto is a nice place, fairly together, 4 stars IMO, not 5. When I first arrived, two chicas were in the 1st floor lobby having pix taken, and I thought they were workin’ girls. So I looked at one right in the eye, and she looked back more intently. You know that look. Yup, she’s in the program. Good sign.

After settling in on Wed night I hit the 2nd floor casino and it was humming, lots of ladies, from 5s to 8s and a 9 or so, but lots of guys also. Any doubts about the casino kicking out the ladies were instantly vanquished - it's true, the owners would be idiots to lose out on a lot of drink business.

I felt a bit disoriented at first and walked around the casino - I didn't find any chicas playing the slots (or in any of my days for that matter) - they were all congregated in the table areas near the bar or at the bar. The _important_ thing is to not be shy and make an effort to make contact, no matter how small, a head-nod, wink or smile, it may be all that it takes for a response and a means to open the door to a great time. In fact, a simple head nod 3 days in a row with one chica resulted in one of the best evenings of my mongering life.

I saw Ailym , as told by DanD Dick, sitting at one of the tables, and though his pix are good, they don’t do her justice; she’s very, very cute in person, obviously a light skinned Colombiana. But before I could get to her, some guy glommed onto her. File for later.

Culture shocked, I was a bit tentative for some reason, but I saw two ladies sitting at a table near the escalator, a brunette and a blonde, Patricia and Sandra. They told me that they were new to Panama (heard that a lot, and was not sure if it was some standard line) and pressed me for a 3-way. They were both Calenas, and I do like Calenas – IMO, they have a real passion that is often missing from the guapa Paisas from Medellin.

I finally gave in and off we 3 went to my hotel room, $80 each. It was quickly clear that Patricia was the better of the two, but blonde Sandra had her points. Patricia was more expert in la cama, more passionate and less businesslike. GFE except for CBJ. I went at it back and forth on the both of them, each with a dedicated condom. Sandra was so tight I couldn’t believe it. In fact, they began to start in with the “you’re so big!” thing, which is definitely not true, but apparently they had a point – they told me the Cali men have short stubby ones and I was a lot longer. File that under useless information.

However, flush with Vit V, I couldn’t leche, and they were so disappointed, something I heard over and over. So it was good starter night, not incredible, and I would take Patricia again, I liked her. And she likes her work a lot, far as I can tell. But I didn’t hook up with her again, even though I saw her every night at the Veneto – I think she was a bit disappointed that I didn’t. She’s not thin, but not gordita or gruesa (thick).

Next Boca(tarena) Baby!

Great start Gonzo, looking forward to the next volume.

...you eventually hook up with Ailym. I can't wait for the end of the book!


/Dan D.

I spent most of Thursday with my taxista Alex, whom I highly recommend (PM Coqui, Dollar Bill or me for his #s). He took me all around the Casco Viejo neighborhood, one of the tourista highlights of my trip – it’s a combination of the traditional, historical and new with many a venue to visit. Additionally, you can also get some great shots of the skyline of downtown Panama – go late in the afternoon for some nice lighting effects. Firstly however, we stopped right in front of La Mayor and her sister bars in barrio China – more on that later. The area is not great, but I never felt in danger nor received any bad vibes from the locals. Moving to a better area, we also were allowed on the grounds of the presidential palace, so damn easy – try that at the White House! We also took a ride down Amador Causeway to check out the boats and cruiseliners waiting to go through the Panama Canal.

One other “highlight” was touring the very poor and dangerous neighborhood that had strong support for General Noriega, an area full of funky tenements and worn down empty lots. Alex told me that Noriega was bad, but the Blackhawk helicopters during the ’89 invasion blasted this area badly and killed 5000 people – I certainly felt his mixed feelings on that. Key building: the birthplace of boxer Roberto Duran.

But this is not the Conde Naste website, and you’re here to enjoy good stories of mongering, right? OK, so here goes. After all the touring, it was about 6:30 and Alex told me it was good time to go to the bars (that’s one of his special features, to note both good places and times for mongering).

So we headed back to barrio chino and parked close to La Mayor. I felt a touch nervous, not knowing what to expect – heading through the grimey door of La Mayor, I was immediately disappointed – the music was loud, the women were skanky or old, and the place was sparsely populated – though the one chica dancing on the bar was OK , a 5-6. I didn’t like the setup of the bar either, no way. Alex picked up on it also, so we headed right back out to Bocatorena bar, right next door.

It was like night and day – it didn’t have overbearingly loud music, it was full, lively, lots of young folks, and I COULD NOT BELIEVE the quality of the chicas. The quality ran from 3 to 8 or 8.5, with an average of about 6-7. There were a few ladies walking around upon which my only response would be ‘what the hell are you doing here?’ They could be working the Veneto or Fiesta casinos, no problem.

There were about 15-20 chicas and about 50-70 locals in the bar, mostly young guys sipping beers and nothing more, Alex and I sat down at a table, and I could feel many eyes upon me – the only gringo in the bar, and what’s more I totally shave my head – I really stick out. Immediately I noticed the ladies, dressed in skimpy workin’ clothes and f*ck me shoes, stand around or sashay around the room, begin to sashay in my direction.

I swear, I felt like I walked into some wild, stereotype of some cheap Latino movie, with music blaring, dollar beers, wild talking, putas galore. A brawl could break out any second, if not for the jovial atmosphere, which is good for me, solo gringo. Alex seems to be having a great time, enjoying the scenery. So one tall chica caught my eye, Ellie, a young Domincana. This is not a place for small talk, the ladies don’t want to plied with beer and getting-to-know-you, they just wanna know, ‘you ready to go?’. So Ellie takes my hand and leads me through the door to the rat maze of hallways and little f*ck-me rooms. We stop at the desk, and the old portero ask me ‘how long?’, I asked him, ‘how much for ½ an hour?’

8 bucks.

I couldn’t believe it. She leads me into a small dingy, grime laden room which would meet your every stereotype of a sleazy bordello, minus the cockroaches and rats. No sheets on the dirty mattress. My immediate thought- no cowgirl in this session! This is also not a place for romantic foreplay either, and after a quick undress, we get down to business. I enjoy her young breasts, not yet succumbed to gravity. She did an obligatory CBJ with minor enthusiasm and off we went to the deed. Although she wouldn’t allow kissing, I can’t help but to say I enjoyed myself with this lanky young lady. While we’re at it, there’s all sorts of wild-ass noise in the hallway, easily heard through the thin, cheapo walls, and after about 15 minutes some guy is banging heavily upon the door, but we ignore him. Despite the Vit V effect, I finish with her in doggie. Afterwards, I ask her, ‘why here, why not the massage parlors or the casinos?’ She mentions that there’s lots of risk for her getting caught by the police and this place is safe from that. I’ve certainly seen a lot uglier at the Veneto.

I grab my clothes from the grimey hooks while she washes her privates in front of me at the sink in the tiny room. You know that slapping noise when a woman is washing down there? Man, it’s just weird, and I kind of felt sorry for her at that point. She asked me for a $20 propina. I gave her $22.

OTOH, Ellie just made some decent money (for Panama) for ½ hours work, even if she splits it with the bar. So I go back out and have another beer with Alex. I slowly notice that the chicas seem to be congregating right in my view, near my table. One cute but aggressive chica comes up to me and wraps one arm around my head, polishing my bald head with the other. She called me Senor Bombillo (Mr. Light Bulb), and says in heavily accented English, ‘hello baby I 69 you, den you fauk me, OK?’ Bunch of folks crack up. I told her I just had s*xo, but she replies, ‘so what?’ Even Alex asks me if I’m going to take her, and had to explain to him that we 50 yr olders need a little time to recuperate. More cute chicas, locals and Colombianas (and definitely some ugly ones) are coming into the place, so I think 6:30 – 8:30 is very prime time for this bar.

Alex checks out the bar next to Bocatorena – actually there is a hallway in the back that leads to it, and I follow suit, but I find nothing but some really used up older ladies, yucky. After another beer, I thought best that I shouldn’t draw too much attention in a place like this, and we begin to leave, but not before I give Ellie a goodbye kiss, and plant another 2 bucks in her hand. One chica tugs at my arm as I’m walking out the door. I’m so Mr. Popular here.

And thus, I made it out of there without getting my ass kicked or catching some serous disease. It was perhaps the sleaziest place I’ve ever been to (though there was that one brothel in Bombay years ago…), but I’d go there again, escorted by a Panamanian. I prefer and can afford the high end, but who doesn’t like a little danger and super-cheap p*ssy now and then?

Grand Total, w/ beers and 2nd propina: $37. Lifetime memory: priceless

Next: Back to the Colombiana$

Gonzo

I think you found the place for the happy hour special in Panama. Finding a place with action around 6:30 allows you to get back to the hotel, clean up, some dinner and then out for the evening. I have found on most nights it does not pay to go out before 10.

I have been to La Mayor and have not been impressed. But I have never been in Bocatorena. Didn't know it was there. I would agree with you though that this is a rougher area. Going in with a Panamanian you can trust is a good idea.

I look forward to your next installment.

Travlr

It took me a long time to learn what you seem to have gathered from one taxista. This guy sounds like a keeper.

[QUOTE=Regulr Travlr]I think you found the place for the happy hour special in Panama.[/QUOTE]You're right RT, you could go there for an early evening quickie, then back to the higher end places for more serious action. For others reading, I HIGHLY SUGGEST going in with a Panamanian taxista, or some other large Latino fellow. I never for a moment felt threatened or unsafe, but YMMV. I had thoughts of taking one of the chicas out of the bar, a few were that nice, but not sure if that would start a riot...perhaps it could be done discreetly.

[QUOTE=DanDDick]Please tell me....you eventually hook up with Ailym. I can't wait for the end of the book![/QUOTE]Actually I never did hook up with Ailym (but got her phone #), for the simple reason that I found exactly what I came for with a couple of Panamanians. Thing globally, monger locally, as John Lennon used to say...

Thu Night

After the mayhem of Bocaterana, Alex takes me back to my hotel, but the night is still young for the late night lifestyle of Panama. I hop into a cab to check out the Calidonia neighborhoods around the Hotels San Remo, Soloy, Dos Mares, Vera Cruz and Parque Porras. Dropped off at San Remo, I walk over to Parque Porras, two block east, based on info I pulled from this forum. But I walked and walked around and couldn’t find anything in the 4 corners of the park except for young lovers making out. Did get one proposition from a chica on Ave Mexico(?), but passed on it. And when I was walking on Ave Cuba, some guy started yelling at me, and perhaps he was pimping, but I tend to shy away from people yelling at me. But that’s me. Especially when I’m the only gringo in sight – however, it felt fairly safe even though dark and not the highest end of Panama City.

I walking into the casino at Hotel Soloy again to find myself as the only gringo in sight, but no problem – obvious if one could find a decent chica in these parts, prices would be appropriate. Hungry from all my activity, I find Café Romanaccio on Calle 30, a no frills Italian place and the food was excellent, a definite recommend.

Deciding I’d be better off in the safer and better known confines of Hotel Veneto, I take a cab back there and get ready for the evening. But based upon recommendations from Alex, the street perpendicular to Hotel Veneto, upon which Manolo’s corners, is a rich target area for SWs. He told me to walk down that street a little bit past the Ambassador Hotel and back. About 50 feet from the corner were two SWs, one of them having been captured in the Photo Gallery, a light skinned spinner with two pigtails. She was OK, about a 6 in my opinion, but after Bocatarena, I could afford a little highend for the evening.

Walking back into hotel, I see what appears to be a hot looking Colombiana from the back getting checked by the security guard. I quickly hop on the escalator next to her and when she turns to me, it’s clear the total package is very nice….her face is beautiful. She has that classic light-skinned, pelinegro look common to many Colombianas that make me weak in the knees. A little small talk at the bar, a few drinks later, we begin the delicate art of negotiation. It was tough and I ended up stupidly agreeing to a price much higher than I wanted for TLN (over 2 bills, stupid, stupid, stupid!!! One mistake per trip is allowable, before I start taking stock). So begins my next mongering episode with Monica from Manzaniles, Colombia. She also told me that this was her first week in Panama. As we walk down the bar, I see the pretty blonde chica from the night before at the bar and give her a smile. She recognizes me also and smiles back. As the night progressed the casino was full of chicas, with an excellent chica-****** ratio.

When we get into my hotel room, she makes a comment on my laptop, very interested. So I end up showing her my web site of photos around the world for an hour. She is strangely curious and interesting in my travels and things technical – I’ve found a geek provider! Monica is perhaps the brightest Latina I’ve ever been with. Unfortunately, the s*xo was mediocre, she had one too many rules and nitpicks, which can cut into the vibe. But her blanca body was breathtaking. Yum! After the deed, we hung for a while and cuddled, and after a while she turns on the TV. After a few music videos, she hits upon CSI - her favorite show! So we end the night watching Grissom and Co with Spanish subtitles. Most peculiar, mama.

Free Here,

Quick update. Hooters, the chain from the U.S. has opened a branch here in Panama City.

Hooters
Calle 50
In front of Elite

TONS of FIINNNEEE females there, go check it out.

Free

Thinking about heading to PTY for 26-29 DEC. Will the talent pool be depleted or will some of the talent remain in the city on these days? Options are SDQ, SJO or PTY. Just tossing around the idea. Thanks Gents..Flyjets

I wonder if the staff in this Hooters is all locals (Panamians) or do they have imports (Colombianas)?

Hopefully someone will shed some light soon....

~BKKGuru

[QUOTE=Free Sex]Free Here,

Quick update. Hooters, the chain from the U.S. has opened a branch here in Panama City.

Hooters
Calle 50
In front of Elite

TONS of FIINNNEEE females there, go check it out.

Free[/QUOTE]

A local social events website published some images, along with a description, claiming that the staff is 95% panamanian. (dealante punto com)

Friday

I felt a little under the weather Friday during the day, so I did a little shopping and napping, but by late afternoon, I was getting a little restless – I wanted a little nookie, but my choices were limited.

Should I try the newspapers? Call someone suggested by another monger? I kept passing Oacis which is right next door on Veneto St, so finally I give it a try. I walk in to a fairly small room and up stands about 8 chicas and I was pleasantly surprised by their appearance – my expectations were low. I’d say about 6-7 was the average, but one young chica caught my eye, whose appearance stood out from the rest. The only little problem was that she kept averting her eyes when I looked at her directly, but she was a beauty with a near perfect thin body, a solid 8. And she looked strangely familiar – I’ve seen her face before.

I select her, named Luna, and she leads me into the back area into a decent room with a full bed and bathroom. The large mirror on the ceiling is a nice touch. However, her vibe is strange and nervous; I try to ask about her life, make jokes to break the ice, but she is still very tentative. She is a 22 year old from Pereira, Colombia from a family of 8, no mother, sounds like it was a tough life.

I shower and she gives me a mediocre massage with way too much oil. When she undresses, however, it’s wow! Perfect young body, two B+ cup bullets for breasts, flat tummy, beautiful shape to match her pretty face. Even though Luna is still shy/weird/nervous, I have my way with this young one, which I find highly enjoyable, especially looking up at the ceiling mirror during doggie. I love mirrors. It’s like starring in your own personal porno movie. What a view! I leche and afterwards, she treats the little guy like it’s radioactive or something – I finally conclude that her whole attitude is like a valley-girl, ‘ewww, I’m too good to be doing this’ kind of thing. I was going to say something to the management, like you gotta teach her how to be a good provider, as her looks are only go to go so far in a place like this, but I didn’t.

I leave while she is undoing the bed, and while walking out, I finally figure out who she looks like – Anne Hathaway, the actress from The Princess Bride, Brokeback Mountain and the Devil Wears Prada. I like Anne Hathaway’s looks, a tall, pelinegro, and Luna looks like a Latina version of Anne Hathaway. But if I ever go back to Oacis, I’m gonna pick the most experienced provider.

Friday Night Lights Out

It’s still early, only about 8:30 so I decide to quench my curiosity in Life Girls, based upon some info on a street dude who looks a lot like Chuck Berry. Life Girls is a strip club near the corner of Veneto and Via Espana, near the Rey Supermarket. I go in, pay a $10 entrance fee and go inside. It’s populated totally by Panamanian dudes blowing their weekly paycheck, but I immediately notice the quality of the chicas, another pleasant surprise, 7-9s, 2 in particular were stunningly sexy, yow. I sit at the bar, solo gringo again, waiting for the next performance and watching the porno on the TV (it got my attention, but is that really necessary?).

Within 5 minutes a real cutie named Mandee joins me and strikes up a conversation. She is very, very cute and very sexy (of course, what do you expect in a strip club?). She’s a Panamanian, which instantly makes me interested, and we talk while we do the traditional ‘buy the chica drinks’ thing. It gets more and more intimate, grinding her body, groping her body, showing me her nipples, sitting on my lap in a virtual lap dance. She gets me to buy her 3 drinks at $11 each, and that’s enough. I’m aroused, she’s making fun of my erection, but I don’t like the setup of Life Girls – the private lap dance booths are right next to the stage, not very private, IMO. While I’m getting to 2nd base with Mandee, I watch one or two pretty Colombianas do some very nice strip dancing on the stage.

Then she tells me (in Spanish), ‘I gotta go, my turn to dance’. She comes on in a sexy costume, and her dance is amazing, very athletic, some great stuff with the stripper’s pole. I’m impressed and so are my companeros, so much so that we give her a big applause – first time I’ve ever seen that. She comes back to me after her dance and I compliment her. I want to round 3rd and head home with this chica, so I ask her for her digits and I discreetly get them in my notebook – she could get fired for this, but the boss isn’t around. Finally, a Panamanian, maybe there’s hope for some GFE in Panama. I leaver her and Life Girls, watching a few chicas grind away in lap dances. I will call her, yes indeed.

After an OK dinner at Manolos (BTW, service at Manolo’s is sooooo slooooow, FYI), I get ready for the evening activities at Veneto. I see Ailym at a baccarat table and strike up a conversation with her, but it’s a bit strange – she’s trying all her English lines on me, ‘hello, baby, I lauv joo baby’, etc (even though it appears she's with a guy) and all the while I’m trying to talk to her in Espanol. I decide she’s being a bit too slick and pass on her, but get her phone number.

Back to the bar, I again see the blonde chica sitting there, and so there’s my opening, So begins a new episode with Martha, a 23 Panamanian semi-pro with lovely canela/cinnamon skin and beautiful, rich morena eyes. She tells me she’s a secretary by day, and workin’ girl by night for the extra money, and has just been doing this for 2 weeks. If true, she'd be my first semi-pro.

We agree for $100 for 2+ hours, and it goes wonderfully - finally, GFE!!! No more Colombiana two-step and rules, rules, rules. But during the deed, all of a sudden, she yells and suddenly there’s a break in the condom, a small hole. She freaks out, and the heavenly moment instanly turns hellish. She gets dressed, cursing in Spanish raplidly – despite the seriousness of the situation, what comes to mind is Ricky Riccardo getting mad at Lucy - that rapid fire espanol thing. She's afraid of SIDA (spanish for AIDS) more than pregnancy or other STDs. I can't blame her.

She is genuinely freaked out – I think at this point she is telling me the truth that she’s new to the biz. I try to calm her down that there wasn’t any leche at all, but it’s not helping. She puts on her clothes, and writes her name and number on a notepad with large words in English: CALL ME TOMORROW. She’s almost out the door and I say, ‘Martha, your money?’ She totally forgot about the cash on the desk takes it and leaves. I’m very sad, and feel bad for her – she was a great lady in many ways, personality wise and in la cama, very, very hot. I was recently tested for everything, and I'm clean and will try to calm her down the net day.

Next, a perfect date w/ Martha

sounds like you should be alot more worried. these are working girls. they say what ever they can to make that green. never know what they have.
i hope you got some pics for us.
spider

[QUOTE=Free Sex]Free Here,

Quick update. Hooters, the chain from the U.S. has opened a branch here in Panama City.

Hooters
Calle 50
In front of Elite

TONS of FIINNNEEE females there, go check it out.

Free[/QUOTE]
Gauntman here from the outer fringes!!! Saw the ad for hooters, I can tell you its true that the staff is 95% panamenian, as I personally know some of them, I also saw some girls that work as host girls in regular events around the city and some colombianitas also, but Im not positive if they're pro. The panamenians there, as far as I know they arent pros, but looks might be deceiving

Free here!!

Yep, 95% of the chics that work there are from Panama, they are dressed with white tops. The ones dressed in black are from other countries that are there to train employees. I would say the most attractive are NOT from Panama. There is one with long black hair from Venezuela, who I would personally say it the most attractive.

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[QUOTE=GauntMan]Gauntman here from the outer fringes!!! Saw the ad for hooters, I can tell you its true that the staff is 95% panamenian, as I personally know some of them, I also saw some girls that work as host girls in regular events around the city and some colombianitas also, but Im not positive if they're pro. The panamenians there, as far as I know they arent pros, but looks might be deceiving[/QUOTE]

(...when we last left our hero, Gonzo, he had finally found some great GFE in Panama, only to be destroyed by a broken condom...)

Saturday arrives and I'm thinking of ways to calm down mi amiga Martha from the night before. I'm confident that there was no problem, but she obviously wasn't. Martha works till 1PM on Saturday in her job (40+ hrs a week for shitty pay), so after 1PM I call her cell number, and fortunately she is calm and understanding, and I tell her the risk is extremely small, and I’m clean. I tell her that I like her and would like to spend more time with her, dinner and everything, and she is into it. I was prepared for more drama on the phone. but she was in a totally different space. One can handle a ballistic Latina for only a short time!

After the phone call, I grab cab driver Martin in front of the Veneto for a tour of the Miraflores Locks of the Panama canal. He quotes me $15/hr for his taxi, and I laugh in response, and tell him that my regular taxista charges me $8/hr, which is true (Alex’s rate, but couldn’t get him on the phone). He immediately drops his price to the same, and offers a ride to the airport for $20, as I’m leaving early the next day. PM me if you want his digits.

Martin takes me to canal, which is a must-see venue for anyone coming to Panama City. Attend the little 20-minute movie while you’re there also, it’s worth it. Definitely a tourist highlight. 1-2 foot of leeway for these monstrous boats to get through the canal. And it’s only 1 way traffic per day, switching every day.

When I get back to my hotel, it’s after 4PM, and by this time, Mandee, from Life Girls, is probably awake – my plan is to have her over at 6AM when she gets off her job and before I leave the airport at 7:30AM for one last going away present to myself. I call her and set it up. But it’s expensive – the night I met her, she asked me what the chicas charge on average at the casinos. I tell her $80 on average and she replies, ‘oh no, that’s cheap!’ . Oh jeesh. She won’t budge off of $100. I usually bend more for a final f*ck on any trip. Oh well.

Martha comes over at six, dressed simply but nicely, nothing to suggest she’s doing something professional. She is obviously bottle blonde, but in contrast to other Latinas, it works very well on her. We then embark on what to me was a magical night – it’s like a real date with a pretty young lady. We share stories over drinks in my hotel room, and go out to dinner.

Martha suggested Angels Restaurant on Via Argentina, and later I discover she has an agenda in her choice. It was an excellent choice – it’s mostly a seafood place, and I loved it. I give it 4.5 stars. Check out the Pulpo Agrille for an appetizer (octopus grilled in garlic sauce) and Langostinos Agrille for a main dish (large prawns in garlic sauce), both done to perfection.

Food in Panama is cheap, but Angels costs more – bottle of wine, 2 appetizers, 2 main dishes and 1 dessert came to $80. But it was worth every penny.

Martha and I hit it off well conversationally, and I learned all about her life, very interesting. The reason that she chose this restaurant was because her boss, who’s a millionaire oftens asks her to setup lunch and dinner business appointments at Angels. And it is way out of her league financially. So she was very appreciative that I was able to fulfill a fantasy of her eating here.

And in la cama she fulfilled my fantasies. She was GFE in bed and this time there were no ripped condom, she was a wonderful lover, and I definitely recommend her. It can get pretty intense with her during the action, she loves s*xo with white guys.

We finished the night off spooning – it was heavenly to wrap myself around this cinnamon skinned lovely. I tell her of many sexual adventures in my life, as she’s only been s*xual for 4 years (so she says). She listens with much curiosity, and I realize I’ve been having sex longer than she’s been alive. Weird, no? I’m also older than her father. Good thing I’m so young and good looking! ;^)

Finally I gift her with a nice necklace, perfume and a half finished bottle of rum. I’m so pleased at having a regular date. A Semi-Pro! Wonderful! (and all in Spanish, which also pleases me to be at the point of being conversational). Money was never mentioned – she knows what I blew at Angels and that may have been sufficient for her possibly. But as she’s leaving, I stuff a bunch of $20s in her pocket. I have no problem with that. I’m glad that I’m not available, as someone like Martha is a great temptation for something more than a one night stand. You’lll be easily able to recognize her at Venetos, so treat her well, guys.

(Next, Morning Maniac Mongering)

[QUOTE=SpiderMonkey]sounds like you should be alot more worried. these are working girls. they say what ever they can to make that green. never know what they have. i hope you got some pics for us.[/QUOTE]SM, duly noted and I appreciate your words regarding safe-s*x. I'll get tested again, but since it was such a small hole and it was out so quickly, with no exchange of fluids, I'm not worried. I've experienced situations far more risky, and been there and done that with the whole drama of my mind freaking out about it.

As far as pictures go, I will post some basic ones, but the few juicy ones I have will require a PM from only the regulars on this forum, such as yourself.

Good Morning,

I am New in the Panama Forum, I want to make my own report and help others with the underground life of Panama Girls. I am in the States right now, in Texas but live in Panama. First of All, I am interesting in the report of Marhta, do you know her telephone, please give a full description of her, and how tall is she, ETC.

I used to know a girl from Life Girls , very beautiful, her name (fake) is Ericka Salinas , I dont know if she still in Panama , she worked with a friend of her named SARA in LIFE GIRLS but after the contract was finished , she used to work at VENETO.

I don't usually write any reports, but due to the great help this forum gave me, I'll pass the info on a great spot in Panama city.

There's a place called golden house or something that starts with golden. It's in a little plaza near the price smart of el dorado. It's open all day long. I went there on a Thursday night at about 1 am and found about 25 girls. I don't meant to exagerate, but of the 25 I would give 10 a 9 or 10.

I did venture with a colombian girl. She was like a babyu doll. Straight black hair. Amazing breasts. Nice tale. She's got a major birth mark on her body, so she's very identifiable once naked. All I can say, is that she's the reason for my future trip to colombia. Sex was amazing.

Good luck, hope anyone can see her.

She's a keeper

Hey Papirrin,

I know what you mean. GT was off the hook when I was there a few months back. I'll be heading down there on Saturday and I'll look for this girl with the distinguishing birthmark. Glad to hear that you had a nice time. The other place that stood out for me was Club Miami.

Have you tried Rio yet? If you go, make sure you try the Monte Carlo...lots of 9's and 10's there.

Cheers

Yesterday's La Prensa featured an article on Prostitution in Panama City. It looked very much like the reporter did his research on this forum. They mentioned bars on Calle Uruguay like La Bogadega and Habanos and talked about the girls having to pay a commission to Hotel Veneto for "working" there. Even talks about a female lawyer who entered the casino in a mini-skirt and was asked to pay a commission.

One girl, Colombian, I suppose said that she banked 20k after expenses for 6 months of hard work.

The aritcle placed a negative spin on prostitution and closed by saying that there could be a huge influx of hookers next year when the canal construction begins. I am hearing though that canal workers won't be paid all that much.

(...in this last thrill-packed episode, Gonzo, after a lovely night with the Panamanian Martha, was abrupty woken up by a mysterious morning visitor...
...well not so mysterious, I set this early morning date the previous afternoon.)

Sunday

For the first time in my mongering life, a chica shows up early for a date. I get awaken at 5:30AM, as Mandee just got off of work from Life Girls. But somehow knowing you’re be in the pink soon gets the juices flowing real quick. I throw on some clothes and meet her in the lobby – and I’m surprised by what I find. First of all she is a lot shorter than how she appeared in Life Girls – then I realized that they all wear those Gene Simmons/KISS platform shoes, which must add 6 inches to one’s height.

She is dressed really provocatively, very short skirt, sandal high heels, semi-see through lace blouse. And in the light of day she is just as pretty as in the dimness of the club, if not more so. OK, it’s gonna be some spinner action!

She has this high pitched crackly voice which is oh-so cute to go with her looks. Apparently this must be her first time in Veneto because she seems to be genuinely impressed by the relative opulence. I tell her to take all the soaps and lotions from the bathroom, and she begins to fill up her bag quickly.

She starts off with a strip-tease and all sorts of sexy dancing (why not, it’s her job!). And she is a wonderful performer in la cama, real GFE, enthusiastic, looking to ways to please, She’s can be described as a spitfire or firecracker, true spinner heaven. I pick her up and do her against the wall, and she know how to work it vertically. Very professional.

One added bonus is that she’s still lactating a bit, so I have free drinks and nourishment at my disposal. I’m really going at it for a long time, and she’s begging, ‘por que no leche?’ – some chicas feel a bit hurt if you can’t finish it off.

Finally I’ve had my way with her, with one eye on the clock, and I’m getting exhausted. So I finally stop and we hug and spoon for a bit. Within a minute or two, she is _sound_asleep. So while she is laying there like an angel, I take a shower, fix up the room, pack up my bags, and of course, got some great pictures of her! I finally get back in bed, and tell her ‘oh pobrecita, we have to go, I gotta go to the airport!’. She gets up groggily and gets dressed. I gave her a few gifts, a gold-plated necklace, perfume, which she appreciated.

We walk out together onto Veneto street and every guy in viewing distance turns his head. Too funny. Once in my mongering life, I would be embarrassed, but no longer. In fact, I’m very happy to have met this very sweet and giving young lady, she's so endearing. I give her a big hug and she staggers away to grab the next taxi.

So ends my mongering adventure in Panama. I blew more money than I should have, but I’m more than satisfied - Panama, being a hub for Continental Airlines, is a place that I'd like to come back to. PM me for any details, phone #, etc.

Here are a few pix of my ladies. For a few more provocative fotos, regulars on this list can PM me.

Senor Gonzo, over and out. Peace, brothers.

gonzo i had patricia back in may . really good lay . nice girl. keep up the good work.
spider

[QUOTE=Gonzo](...in this last thrill-packed episode, Gonzo, after a lovely night with the Panamanian Martha, was abrupty woken up by a mysterious morning visitor...
...well not so mysterious, I set this early morning date the previous afternoon.)

Sunday

For the first time in my mongering life, a chica shows up early for a date. I get awaken at 5:30AM, as Mandee just got off of work from Life Girls. But somehow knowing you’re be in the pink soon gets the juices flowing real quick. I throw on some clothes and meet her in the lobby – and I’m surprised by what I find. First of all she is a lot shorter than how she appeared in Life Girls – then I realized that they all wear those Gene Simmons/KISS platform shoes, which must add 6 inches to one’s height.

She is dressed really provocatively, very short skirt, sandal high heels, semi-see through lace blouse. And in the light of day she is just as pretty as in the dimness of the club, if not more so. OK, it’s gonna be some spinner action!

She has this high pitched crackly voice which is oh-so cute to go with her looks. Apparently this must be her first time in Veneto because she seems to be genuinely impressed by the relative opulence. I tell her to take all the soaps and lotions from the bathroom, and she begins to fill up her bag quickly.

She starts off with a strip-tease and all sorts of sexy dancing (why not, it’s her job!). And she is a wonderful performer in la cama, real GFE, enthusiastic, looking to ways to please, She’s can be described as a spitfire or firecracker, true spinner heaven. I pick her up and do her against the wall, and she know how to work it vertically. Very professional.

One added bonus is that she’s still lactating a bit, so I have free drinks and nourishment at my disposal. I’m really going at it for a long time, and she’s begging, ‘por que no leche?’ – some chicas feel a bit hurt if you can’t finish it off.

Finally I’ve had my way with her, with one eye on the clock, and I’m getting exhausted. So I finally stop and we hug and spoon for a bit. Within a minute or two, she is _sound_asleep. So while she is laying there like an angel, I take a shower, fix up the room, pack up my bags, and of course, got some great pictures of her! I finally get back in bed, and tell her ‘oh pobrecita, we have to go, I gotta go to the airport!’. She gets up groggily and gets dressed. I gave her a few gifts, a gold-plated necklace, perfume, which she appreciated.

We walk out together onto Veneto street and every guy in viewing distance turns his head. Too funny. Once in my mongering life, I would be embarrassed, but no longer. In fact, I’m very happy to have met this very sweet and giving young lady, she's so endearing. I give her a big hug and she staggers away to grab the next taxi.

So ends my mongering adventure in Panama. I blew more money than I should have, but I’m more than satisfied - Panama, being a hub for Continental Airlines, is a place that I'd like to come back to. PM me for any details, phone #, etc.

Here are a few pix of my ladies. For a few more provocative fotos, regulars on this list can PM me.

Senor Gonzo, over and out. Peace, brothers.[/QUOTE]Gonzo,

Its sounds like you had yourself a really fun time I will be going to Panama in a few weeks I am looking forward to see some of the sites after going to Rio, Costa Rica and other places tons of time I wanted a change.

But, from all the places you been to in Panama how would you list them for the best being number ONE and so on? Like:

1. Life Girls?
2. Golden Times?

And so on

Thanks,

Kid Cisco

[QUOTE=SpiderMonkey]gonzo i had patricia back in may . really good lay . nice girl. keep up the good work.
spider[/QUOTE]I agree, she's a lady with a good heart, and I am glad to have spent time with her. She's also a Calena, and if you wind up with a Calena, chances are you're gonna have a hot time!

[QUOTE=Kid Cisco]But, from all the places you been to in Panama how would you list them for the best being number ONE and so on? [/QUOTE]Kid Cisco, it all depends on what you like - if you like independents and can afford the middle to high end, then the Veneto Casino is the #1 place to find them, as well as the Fiesta Casino and Habanos. I could have done all my fishing at Venetos, but variety is the spice of life, no?

For strip clubs I went to Elite and Life Girls. Elite is super expensive, watch your wallet, and so is Life Girls (for buying drinks). As many have said, collect fone #s, but they still charge top end.

Then there's the cheap end, Oacis massage next to Veneto and the 3 adjacent bar in barrio Chino (super cheap). Unfortunately, with my limited time, I did not partake at Miami, GoldenTime or Capri, all recommended places, nor the street ladies in Calidonia.

Thoroughly read this forum, there are many gents much more experienced in the Panama scene than I.

Gonzo is right on in his reports and assessments. I have listed my preferences before. But there are many people who dislike some of the places and who like others. It is a matter of what your looking for, your Spanish speaking ability, your price point, need for GFE, etc.

My own tops:

Independents:

Veneto
La Bodeguita
Habanos


Clubs: Warning Chica drink pricing in effect.

Life Girls
Miami

I don't do MP's.

SpiderMonkey's Top 3

Girl who is breathing
Girl who is breathing but passed out drunk
Girl who is not necessarily breathing.
Repeat as often as necessary!

travlr your getting to no me to good. lol
but if i recall i did see you dragging a couple by the hair caveman style to your room. after my hook up man rented you his club.lol spider

[QUOTE=Gonzo]I agree, she's a lady with a good heart, and I am glad to have spent time with her. She's also a Calena, and if you wind up with a Calena, chances are you're gonna have a hot time!

Kid Cisco, it all depends on what you like - if you like independents and can afford the middle to high end, then the Veneto Casino is the #1 place to find them, as well as the Fiesta Casino and Habanos. I could have done all my fishing at Venetos, but variety is the spice of life, no?

For strip clubs I went to Elite and Life Girls. Elite is super expensive, watch your wallet, and so is Life Girls (for buying drinks). As many have said, collect fone #s, but they still charge top end.

Then there's the cheap end, Oacis massage next to Veneto and the 3 adjacent bar in barrio Chino (super cheap). Unfortunately, with my limited time, I did not partake at Miami, GoldenTime or Capri, all recommended places, nor the street ladies in Calidonia.

Thoroughly read this forum, there are many gents much more experienced in the Panama scene than I.[/QUOTE]Gonzo, and Regulr Travlr,

I must thank you guys both for your help like you said guys mostly fall in two groups those who go for the cheap girls ( so they can do many and go for the numbers I guess ) and some guys that will ONLY do 9's and 10's NO matter how much the cost is.

I guess I fall in the middle of both groups I mixed it up some I do low end 6's or 7's mostly in the afternoon and at night I go hunting for the HIGH end girls for a allnigther I look for 9's and 10's.

I guess like the saying goes you pay for what you get lol.

Once again thanks for the help I heard many good things about Veneto hotel that's were I am staying by the way (from what I hear the girls there ask or start off at $100.00 and you have to work them down from there) is that true?


Thanks for the intel

Kid Cisco

Cisco

The afternoons are a bit of challenge in Panama. It is definitely not like Medellin where there are a lot of daytime options. The only places open are various MP's like Oasis and a few others. Quality and service are a real mixed bag. I only did this on my first trip last year. Not worth repeating.

You can try Gonzo's "happy hour" pricing place around 6 PM, but I would definitely go with a local in that area.

You can meet a girl from somewhere else an make arrangements to call for a date in the afternoon. I would make several arrangements as these girls are not totally reliable.

Look at my earlier post about my driver, Tony. Or PM me for his number. He has several numbers of girls, including some off duty Le Palace girls, looking to make some extra dollars.

These comments also apply to Sundays which are very quiet if you don't have some pre planned activities.

Have fun.

[QUOTE=Regulr Travlr]Cisco

The afternoons are a bit of challenge in Panama. It is definitely not like Medellin where there are a lot of daytime options. The only places open are various MP's like Oasis and a few others. Quality and service are a real mixed bag. I only did this on my first trip last year. Not worth repeating.

You can try Gonzo's "happy hour" pricing place around 6 PM, but I would definitely go with a local in that area.

You can meet a girl from somewhere else an make arrangements to call for a date in the afternoon. I would make several arrangements as these girls are not totally reliable.

Look at my earlier post about my driver, Tony. Or PM me for his number. He has several numbers of girls, including some off duty Le Palace girls, looking to make some extra dollars.

These comments also apply to Sundays which are very quiet if you don't have some pre planned activities.

Have fun.[/QUOTE]Thanks again Regulr Travlr,

I am sorry but I can't PM anyone but don't Tony drive a taxi for Venneto hotel ? I will look for him what you are saying about the afternoon sounds a lot like DR the action don't get started until very LATE at night I will have to relax and take a massage at the spa in the hotel until it get late or look for a hook up.

How do Tony look? I will ask for him at the hotel can you post his number on here is it allowed? if not I understand.

Thanks again,

Kid Cisco

[QUOTE=Regulr Travlr]I met a new guy, Tony who used to live in the states. He has a couple of nice cars, one is a normal taxi but new. The other is larger not sure of the make. He provides full service. Airport, around town, and tourism. He also has a number of chica contacts. He is particularly helpful in the daytime when things are bit slow. A couple of the girls are off duty Le Palace chicas, so you know they are pretty decent. You can reach him on PTY cell 65091698. I will add his email address later, Mention that you saw him on ISG. We discussed this board. His email is [email]spaky2000@hotmail.com[/email][/QUOTE]

This is from my earlier post. He is independent and does not drive for the Veneto. By the way if you use any of the nice cars in front of the Veneto you will pay outrageous rates.

Gonzo, great reports, thanks!

Regarding afternoon action, in times past I had good luck in Hawaii. I've been there four times, and three times there was one good looking Panamena (about an 8 or 9) and several dogs. One of the women, the "9", an accounting student, provided exceptional, GF like service. I've haven't been in there in two years though. Prices were reasonable, $60 for an hour as best as I can recall.

[QUOTE=Regulr Travlr]This is from my earlier post. He is independent and does not drive for the Veneto. By the way if you use any of the nice cars in front of the Veneto you will pay outrageous rates.[/QUOTE]Regulu Travlr,

Thank you so much for the info. I will give him a call when I get there.

Kid Cisco

PTY was alive and well.
Arrived from MIA at 7:45 pm 26 DEC. I was traveling with my nephews and a buddy. Nephews are 19 and 23. My buddy and I are middle age and in solid shape. Our driver insists that we stop at Golden Times. I tell him we are not into the massages yet and want to get a feel for the area. We pass on Golden times and end it in a hole called Phoenix. Very dark and very dirty on the inside. From here we went by Habanos....Totally empty. We start to get worried and think of heading out of PTY. Went to Veneto Casino and it had lots of girls but, lots of boys in the chase also. However, we meet a couple of police officers who hear the cry's of my driver and his quest to get us to go to Golden Times. The driver and the cops had a ten minute laugh at our expense. They were telling us of the house of BARBIE and how beautiful the women were in these places. We concede and fall to the pressures of grass is greener and the girls must be hotter in line with the grass. We arrive and enter the club. It seems more like a Doctors office. We are ushered into a room full of recliners with fresh towels tossed every where. The club brings you a drink and asks you to sit and get ready for the show (parade). Then, the goods arrive...All the girls wear a Number and give a quick pass in front of us, the clients. The girls were so hot that we needed to ask for a pencil and paper to write down the numbers. I will say all we from Colombia and all ranked 7 and above. The price was 80 per person for 1 hour. The service was fantastic and totally pro. The girls were not drinking and seem to have some autonomy on there decisions. I was done in 30 min and waited for my nephews to return. My buddy shows up in 35. The youngsters were in the room trying to rub off a second nut. In the mean time my buddy and I enjoy another beer and watch the girls trying to pull in another client. I wish I would have listened to the driver on the first night. Golden Times was solid on service and the quality of girls was outstanding. Good luck Gents. Semper FI...

Flyjets,

Thanks for taking the time to post your report I am going to Panama in a few weeks here is what I have listed so far:

Oasis, Capri, Hawaii Center, Golden Time

Royal Elegance, Club Miami, Le Palace, Life Girls

Veneto, Habanos,Fiesta Casino,La Bodeguits,Barrio

Now these are all of the places I have on my list if you Flyjet have anymore please report and let us know where else you went.

Thanks to Regulr Travlr and Gonzo for your inputs on places.

Kid Cisco

Guys,

I'm planning a trip to central America next month and I cant decide which country to stay in.

I'm generally attracted to lighter skinned girls, so which of the 2 countries (Panama or Costa Rica) has more light skinned girls?

Or are they both about the same?

Please help,

Thanx

Costa Rica for light skin girls.

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[QUOTE=Free Sex]Costa Rica for light skin girls.

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Agreed, the % of light skinned girls you see walking around is higher. But if you're going to be banging Colombianas in either place, does it make any difference? (Rhetorical question)

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]Agreed, the % of light skinned girls you see walking around is higher. But if you're going to be banging Colombianas in either place, does it make any difference? (Rhetorical question)[/QUOTE]So you're saying Panama is crawling with Colombian SP's?

Damn, so it doesn't matter where I go then!

[QUOTE=Tiny 12] But if you're going to be banging Colombianas in either place, does it make any difference? (Rhetorical question)[/QUOTE]Forgot to ask, are you saying there's equal amount of Colombian girls in CR as well as Panama?

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]Agreed, the % of light skinned girls you see walking around is higher. But if you're going to be banging Colombianas in either place, does it make any difference? (Rhetorical question)[/QUOTE]

If you are going to be fucking Colonbianas, doesnt matter. They are light skin and the best looking I have seen in ANY country I have visited.

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Greetings,

No shortage of light skinned Colombianas in Panama.

So I know you will be happy there.

Check out the independents at the Veneto Casino or the Fiesta Casino. Lots of Colombianas at the Club Miami (one of my favorite places) or Golden Times.

Also check out Habanos Cafe across the street from the downtown Marriott hotel. Have a beer, enjoy the sights and the girls will come to you. It's a great place.

Lots of things to do in Panama City, especially around the Veneto Casino area. It appears to be safer than some of the areas around the various clubs in San Jose.

If you have any other questions about Panama you can PM me.

Good luck, have fun, and DONT overpay.

Viva Chicas

Not much as "light", I'd say white girls.

By the way Panama as a country has not much white girls, however if you would like to find out a lot (or most of them white) you had better go to Chiriqui (Boquete, David, Volcan or Cerro Punta).

It's like another country there, David not as modern as Panama city, but good enough.

Panamanian

Johnny, there's no shortage in either country, but I suspect more Colombianas in Panama. The best looking women at the Del Rey in San Jose are Colombians. But you don't find them in the majority at other venues. Colombians seem to be the majority at a lot of places in Panama -- Golden Time, Le Palace, Veneto Casino, Habano's, Elite, Miami & La Bodeguita anyway.

Regarding the Colombian hookers, GFE has been easier for me to come by in Panama. A higher percentage in Costa Rica have been the slam-bam-thank you-ma'am types. I think this is because their customers in Costa Rica are typically sex tourists they see by the hour. Panama attracts more businessmen, and I think a higher % of the Colombian put*as in Panama are on the lookout for a husband.

That said, if I were on vacation and were looking primarily to get laid, I'd probably prefer San Jose. If I didn't speak Spanish I'd definitely prefer San Jose. In Costa Rica the industry is more in your face -- more massage places, etc., and the Del Rey has more good looking women than any of the free lance joints in Panama City. And there's more to do tourist-wise close to San Jose.

I was in San Jose and Panama City about a month ago, and ended up going with two dark-skinned women in Costa Rica, a Nica and a Venezuelan, and three light skinned women in Panama, all Colombians. But on some other trips it's been the other way around.




[QUOTE=Johnnydh]Forgot to ask, are you saying there's equal amount of Colombian girls in CR as well as Panama?[/QUOTE]

Thanx everyone for your responses. I highly appreciate it.

Another plus I like about Panama is you can drink the tapwater there.

[QUOTE=Kid Cisco]Flyjets,

Thanks for taking the time to post your report I am going to Panama in a few weeks here is what I have listed so far:

Oasis, Capri, Hawaii Center, Golden Time

Royal Elegance, Club Miami, Le Palace, Life Girls

Veneto, Habanos,Fiesta Casino,La Bodeguits,Barrio

Now these are all of the places I have on my list if you Flyjet have anymore please report and let us know where else you went.

Thanks to Regulr Travlr and Gonzo for your inputs on places.

Kid Cisco[/QUOTE]Did I name all the places to go to in Panama? if anyone know of anymore please fill me in, I will be there soon.

Kid Cisco

Kid Cisco, if you're going to troll Casinos, you might as well stop by the ones attached to the Riande Continental (across street from Hotel Panama & Fiesta Casino) and Marriott (close to Habano's) while you're in the area, although on my last trip Veneto Casino was far and away best for professional chicas.

I might add Elite, especially if you've got the self discipline (unlike me) just to watch the shows and not pay for lady drinks or carry out. The floor shows are very good.

Where and what is Barrio?

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]my last trip Veneto Casino was far and away best for professional chicas.

[/QUOTE]Someone in another thread just wrote that the Veneto is all booked up for January. That sux!

Is Veneto always this busy in Winter?

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]Kid Cisco, if you're going to troll Casinos, you might as well stop by the ones attached to the Riande Continental (across street from Hotel Panama & Fiesta Casino) and Marriott (close to Habano's) while you're in the area, although on my last trip Veneto Casino was far and away best for professional chicas.

I might add Elite, especially if you've got the self discipline (unlike me) just to watch the shows and not pay for lady drinks or carry out. The floor shows are very good.

Where and what is Barrio?[/QUOTE]Tiny 12,

Oh yeah, I am VERY discipline when it comes to buy me drinkie girls in the bars and stripclubs lol, to be point after the second visit the girls don't mess with me they call me cheap etc., I had my fill of them overseas in the Navy lol

I rather add a few more dollars to that $15.00 drink and take them up to the room etc., I just tell them if they want a drink come back to my place after they gets off and I will give you more $$$.

As far as Barrio it was a name someone told me about I am not sure what it is maybe a casino I think, but thanks for the info maybe I will just hang out at my hotel "Veneto" if thats were the top freelancers hang out no sense wasting time with lower level girls.

Thanks,

Kid Cisco

A pal flew in for a visit last night (Fri). We went straight to Golden Time from PTY. There was the typical ample supply of very attractive women. My pal was a little put off by #10’s workmanlike attitude, but I was quite satisfied with the charming #40, whose hard body can hide a lot of attitude.

After unpacking and eating, we hit Habano’s about 11:30. It was extremely disappointing. There were a handful of accounted-for women, and about a dozen dudes sitting with no selection available. We sat around for a couple of beers, expecting that word would pass along the mysterious chica network that there was high demand at Habano’s and they would start to trickle in. That didn’t happen.

So, we headed up to Veneto. It was jam packed with locals. Not a place to sit in the bar, and an extreme dearth of working girls, and bad odds on the regulars too. I spied only a few working gals accompanying men at a gaming table, and again, a whole lot of swinging richards obviously searching for company. Disappointed, we breezed through Fiesta. Same thing.

Now quite distressed, we headed over to Habano’s, now about 1:30 am. As usual, it was extremely loud and packed. But, no sign of any working girls whatsoever, except for a couple of suspects that were accompanied anyway.

I don’t know what phenomenon is going on, but I hope it doesn’t last. I hope it's some lingering affect of Christmas travel and not effects of the La Prensa article.

This is fucking typical!

I go to call the Veneto for a reservation, these are the telephone numbers from their website:

Tel.: (507) 340-8888
Fax: (507) 340-8899
Reservations: (507) 340-8686
Reservations U.S.: 1 877-531-2034

None of those numbers work from Canada.

:mad:

[QUOTE=Tp Horn]I don’t know what phenomenon is going on, but I hope it doesn’t last. I hope it's some lingering affect of Christmas travel and not effects of the La Prensa article.[/QUOTE]Oh man thats exactly what I didn't want to hear :(

Got a link for that La Prensa article?

[QUOTE=Tp Horn]Now quite distressed, we headed over to Habano’s, now about 1:30 am.[/QUOTE]Ooops! I should have written "La Bodequita."

That was my impression the one time I went there, loud packed, and majority of women didn't appear to be working. But a hooker I met elsewhere told most of the women there are professionals, and she hangs out there a lot.

[QUOTE=Tp Horn]Now quite distressed, we headed over to [La Bodeguita’s], now about 1:30 am. As usual, it was extremely loud and packed. But, no sign of any working girls whatsoever, except for a couple of suspects that were accompanied anyway.
[/QUOTE]

I picked up this one there at 12:45. I was there with Regular Traveler (our resident Panama Expert) and Ford, who both scored big and left by midnight.

The picture was taken with her next to the Hotel Veneto Limo the next morning at 10:30. she was $120.00 for 9.5 hours, three nuts and buffet breakfast!

"the one and only"

Greetings to all,

After visiting the ISG site and getting valuable information on Panama, I decided to join. I will be in Panama City in 4 weeks and looking forward to a good time. My first trip there following many trips to CR.

Enjoy!

Well people, I booked my trip to Panama and I'm staying at the Veneto next week. Of course I'll write a full report when I get back.

Can someone give me a weather report, I know its hot (30F everyday), but is it also humid? Or is there a nice pacific breeze?

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Hot AND humid, everyday. NO Breeze

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[QUOTE=Free Sex]Free Here,

Hot AND humid, everyday. NO Breeze

FREE!!![/QUOTE]LOL. I dont mind the hot, but I was hoping you werent gonna say humid.

Welcome Ranger, glad to have you aboard. Have a great time in PTY, and post some pics here upon your return. Thats the quickest way to become one of the gang. If you have any other questions before going, I would direct you to "Regular Traveler". He knows the city inside out, and thats who I look to for the Latest updates.

How is the Veneto hotel (or any other Panama hotel) for room theft? Is it rare or does it occasionally happen?

Yes I know rooms have a safe but I also know those can sometimes be breached.

Any info on this is appreciated.

It uses key card readers, and cameras in the hallways. If anyone enters your room for any reason, there is a record. Although I would not keep $50,000 in your safe, I think a couple grand along with camera and passport are safe. Be carefull of the kids outside around the hotel. These 12-14 year olds are very qualified pick pockets! Watch your cameras and cell phones closely.

Thanx everyone for the info

I'm flying into Panama tomorrow, staying at Veneto, maybe I'll buy some of you a beer ;)

[QUOTE=Johnnydh]LOL. I dont mind the hot, but I was hoping you werent gonna say humid.[/QUOTE]
Trust me, it's humid. Even moreso than hot. Very humid.

One nice thing about Panama if you're from the U.S. and are using an ATM card is that you don't get screwed by the banks. I was looking over my bank statement yesterday, and just got charged $2.00 for each withdrawal in Panama, and there are no foreign exchange fees. So there's no need to take a lot of cash, IMHO.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]I was looking over my bank statement yesterday, and just got charged $2.00 for each withdrawal in Panama[/QUOTE]Thats actually quite reasonable given you're in a foreign country.

I get charged $1.50 every time I use a different bank than my own here in Toronto.

BTW guys - Veneto hotel, lotsa Pro's in the casino and bar areas?

My previous post about a lack of supply on a Friday night was a bit alarmist. By the next night, Habano's had plenty of opportunities, and the next time we visited Veneto, it was well stocked. And there never was a problem with the massage joints. False alarm.

I'm here right now in Panama and absolutely loving it!

Been to Elite and a bunch of other places, Le Palaca is on my schedule for tonight.

Veneto rocks, the Casino isnt that great for SP´s but the hotel itself is gorgeous.

If you dont speak Spanish then you can still have a good time, I´d say most pèople speak a little to a lot of English.

I've been with 3 girls already and all 3 spoke some English (enough to communicate).

I'll post some video when I get back to Toronto!

Cheers everyone :)

And whomever said Panamians are into ripoffs etc is full of shit, almost all people I've met here have been superfriendly.

P.S. The honeybees and butterflies here are HUGE!

Hello ppl!! back in PTY for a couple of days due to some family issues to fix. Made a tour just to clear my mind of many ugly thoughs and head into Capri around 330am. Place was mostly filled with males and a couple of the regular working girls. Had a beer and began scanning the girls. Range varied from 6 to 7 to a couple of solid 8s and 9s. Made my choice for a blonde colombiana, tight body, great butt, tiny boobs named Gina. As I really need to clear my mind, decided to take her for 1 hour for $61.
Service was totally GFE. CBJ, cowboys, missionaries, the regular stuff. After the deed, she offered to rub my back with some body lotion and it was very relaxing and after that we just cuddled and watched tv until the phone rang indicating time up.

Very good experience

Hello.
If you are into Google earth, here is a file with the map of the city, indicating mongering places.
Sorry about the nasty cloud ontop of certain areas.
LatinBull

[QUOTE=Fantasy]I picked up this one there at 12:45. I was there with Regular Traveler (our resident Panama Expert) and Ford, who both scored big and left by midnight.

The picture was taken with her next to the Hotel Veneto Limo the next morning at 10:30. she was $120.00 for 9.5 hours, three nuts and buffet breakfast!

"the one and only"[/QUOTE]

Sorry for the late follow up on Fantasy’s comment.

There have been several comments posted here about guys not being sure on who’s available here or how to approach. This is understandable for a couple of reasons. The bar is in an entertainment district where there are many normal bars and restaurants. Somehow the P4P crowd has migrated here. Additionally, once inside it seems like a normal neighborhood bar. If you were back in the State you would not think that this is place to go for mongering.

This is actually one of my favorite places for the independents in Panama. One thing to remember is that it is very loud inside with the music. So you have to have some Spanish to communicate with the girls. You should not arrive before 11 and they are open on Sundays. It is less crowded on Sunday, but I have seen some girls from some of the upscale clubs (ie Le Palace) in there partying on there night off. They are kind of random on which nights they charge a cover. If you go on one of those nights make sure you take a look at the crowd before you decide to pay. The only time that I have seen it dead was around the Christmas holiday, late December early January.

My estimate would be that 95% of the girls in this place are available for P4P. However some of the girls are more "desperate" than others. Look for the girls just sitting around at the rail across from the bar and NOT drinking. They are in there strictly looking for a client. Easy place to start. Some girls are in there to party first, have a few drinks and dance. A lot of the girls come here to party, and if they are able to arrange a date then all the better. We saw one girl pay for several bottles of alcohol with a $100. Part of the Colombiana money management skills. Spend what you made last night. Another night we saw all the girls drinking buckets of Heinekens because it was a special. The drinking habits are a tip that they may not be as willing to negotiate as deep, but not always true. There also were the true pros who would come in and not drink unless someone was buying. They will go with you, but you first have to hang with them a little.

Buy a few drinks, dance. It is a fun atmosphere. Drink prices are very reasonable. A full bottle of Stoli is $25. I am not sure what the individual drink pricing is. Girls at the tables with guys may or may not be on date. If you see one you are interested in you may just have to wait it out and see. Look at her, smile and express your interest. If she thinks you are a better prospect she will make her move. I think this was the approach that Fantasy took with his girl.

Pricing is all over the board. As usual never accept the first price and negotiate!

One other idea is to use the bar staff to help you find girls. A small propina works wonders. The bar staff know me now there. They know that a tip will be available at the end of the night for introductions. Sometimes I will even point out a few girls to get their reaction. They know if someone is a dead fish or a scammer.

If you are a first timer there I would give a $5 with the first drink and let them know you would like some help with introductions. Then tell them there will be more if it works out.

Here’s a pic of a Colombiana. We had a short TLN for $100 plus taxi fare. We did not head out until about 2:30 and she had to leave at 7:30 to pack and catch a plane to Pereira. But it was well worth it and we had a lot of fun in the club as well.

This board has been real quiet lately. Nobody in Panama? I am particularly disappointed in all the guys who ask a lot of questions in planning their trip. They do this on the board and in pm's. I think the Panama regulars are prettty generous in sharing their info. But there are no new reports in return. Or they are more like comments - "wow, I had a great time, the girls were hot!"

One guy I will call out in particular is Travelwind. He asked over 20 very detailed questions back in November. Some were an indication that he needed a lot of hand holding. Everyone helped out, and not a single trip report. We should never answer another question from him.

Come on guys let's start paying back.

I was thinking it has been pretty quiet here also. No problem,I'll have some photos to show shortly. The best way to get the ole blood flowing.

Enjoy!

Hello guys! Second round on the Capri, headed there last night around 4am, place was starting to close, many, and I mean many stunners there, a couple were solid 8`s and 2 real 10`s!!

Decided for a petite, raven haired beauty, boosted breasts, well tuned legs and a great tight butt named Carolina. Headed up for 30 mins for $31, total satisfaction.

So far I have absolutely no complains about Capri and definately recommend it!! Its located in Rio Abajo, just take any cab and tell them to take you to Capri or Fenix as it was previously named.

Gauntman out!

hello everyone,

just a short report to advise what i saw going on within the last week.

not much time to partake as there on some serious business and just too tired even for my favorite hobby!

went to the veneto most nights "just to take a peek". would have a balboa beer and look around. then back to the room to sleep solo :(

friday and saturday nights were booming. no shortage of friends to be found.
thursday night not bad either.

there were a few stunners and some far above average girls in the veneto.

next time i hope to be able to say more. however, at least i can say the veneto was looking good.

be carefull, be safe, and treat the girls with respect.

[QUOTE=Regulr Travlr]This board has been real quiet lately. Nobody in Panama? I am particularly disappointed in all the guys who ask a lot of questions in planning their trip. They do this on the board and in pm's. I think the Panama regulars are prettty generous in sharing their info. But there are no new reports in return. Or they are more like comments - "wow, I had a great time, the girls were hot!"

One guy I will call out in particular is Travelwind. He asked over 20 very detailed questions back in November. Some were an indication that he needed a lot of hand holding. Everyone helped out, and not a single trip report. We should never answer another question from him.

Come on guys let's start paying back.[/QUOTE]Guess I am a little guilty of this. Before my first trip to Pc I asked a few questions. I have been down there 5 times since March of O6. I am returning for Caraval this week. One thing that i see come up frequently on here is the question of how do you know who is P4P. Almost any disco, many of the open air resturants around the El Congrio area nad all of the casinos have working girls. Veneto's is by far the best casino. Habanos in the evenings is the best. (Very obvious there) The owner encourages the ladies to hang out. They come and go all night. On of the best disco's is La Bodeguita's. Manalo's cafe accross from the Vento casino has many ladies in the early evening and on Sunday night. Venetos usually has girls on Sunday night. Not as many but enough. I have never been to a massage parlor of strip joint, so I do not have any info on them. Then best way to find out if they are P4P is to look at them, if they make eye contact, you are only a few dollars away from getting laid. Some will be more bold, but that seems to be rare. One time in Venetos, I was there with my chica and several chicas made it very plain that they were availble. Just go up and strike up a conversation, even if your Spanish sucks, they may speak some english. some do. In the discos, just ask one to dance, me, I can not dance a lick, no one has seemed to care. Eye contact, a smile and a hola will get you laid most anywhere. There are a ton of working chicas in PC. alot of them will go out to eat with you, go dancing with you and stay the night for the same price as a hour romp. Treat them nice. I have never taken any foto's, sorry. For all the newbies, getting laid in PC is easy, real easy. I am 55, not over weight, but do not have 6 pak abbs. If I can get laid easy so can you. You do get to meet some cool chicas too. They can be a little posseive though. LOL. I prefer to make it like a date instead of the 1 hour thing. GFE is pretty common. There are some drawbacks, so if you just want to bust a nut and move on there are plenty of MP around. Any taxi will take you, they know them all. The problem with that is they want some money for doing that for you. When ever I take a taxi they are more then eager to show me the places. Not my thing though. One other thing, DO NOT take the taxi's in front of hotels and bars. ALWAYS step out on the street and flag one down. It is about 1/4 the price. I stay at the Las Vegas usually. I am stayiing at the Patilla Inn this time. The Las Vegas is chica freindly and a nice place with a nice resturant downstairs. $35.00 a night. Enjoy Panama!

Hey Buck501,

I live in Panama City and may be available during Carnival.

Would you like to meet for a beer or two?

Cheers!

I'm worried that you guys are converting my country as a sexual destiny or a sexual tourism destiny.

It's ok if you are here and you do it, but NOT to come only for that, aren't there enough latinas there?

Just Wondering.

[QUOTE=Panamanian]I'm worried that you guys are converting my country as a sexual destiny or a sexual tourism destiny.

It's ok if you are here and you do it, but NOT to come only for that, aren't there enough latinas there?

Just Wondering.[/QUOTE]Dude, are you serious, or?

Let me start by saying I tried to get some photos of a few ladies but they had some previous bad experiences with photos. One allowed me to use her camera to take a few, she said she may email them to me. We shall see.

Panama was hot and humid. Spend the day in the shade and prowl at night.

I missed the carnival. I was on my way out as it was starting but hey it was my first trip.

Golden Times. Incredible. About 15 ladies working when I got there. You sit in a viewing room and they come in one by one with a number. After the first six or so I just could not believe the level of talent. I could take anyone of them and be satsfied. I select a petite lady. Paid $94 and went upstairs. A little cbj. Then some sexo. I could tell she was new and she had been there 2 months. But it was ok.

I could spend everyday here and be content. 7's. 8's. 9's and a 10 or two. A must visit place.

Le Palace. A slight edge over GT but most of the ladies at GT could be working at LP. Maybe there is a hiring freeze:)The ladies asked for$150 to go offstie and then yu pay the house another $150. I spoke to a few who were firm on this arrangement. I connected with one, got her number and we got together the next day. The sex made my toes curl, it had been awhile since I got laid like that. She really enjoyed herself and I have a few battle scars. Not cheap but worth it. $200 for several hours.

Hotel. El Panama is 4 stars. I had no trouble bringing in my friend, just book your room for two. At 11pm guest must register at the desk. On arrival I got a free upgrade to a Jr. Suite. Nice. The women melt when they come inside. If you are interested in photos of the room I will upload them.

Have fun. Live the dream!

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Panamanian, I don't travel to Panama for the prostitutes, but it's nice that they're there. I suspect that 50% or more of the people that post here in the Panama section aren't primarily sex tourists either.

That said, I don't understand your point. I remember that your favorite place is Elite. In fact, I've wondered whether you own part of Elite, and were trying to advertise here on ISG.

Without the foreign businessmen and foreign tourists, do you think Elite could attract so many beauties from Colombia? If it weren't for us, you'd have to go back to f**king more Panamanians. That's not a criticism of your paisanas -- I'd a lot rather do the average Panamanian chica than the average gringa. But Panama has been able to attract some of the most beautiful hookers in the world, from other places. Without the foreigners I don't think that would be so easy. More of Colombia's finest would be going to Costa Rica or Caribbean islands instead.

[QUOTE=Panamanian]I'm worried that you guys are converting my country as a sexual destiny or a sexual tourism destiny.

It's ok if you are here and you do it, but NOT to come only for that, aren't there enough latinas there?

Just Wondering.[/QUOTE]

I think I should slap you in your face.

Panamanian:

I would not recommend coming to Panama just for the girls. Frankly, I've been to many places with a better p4p scene. Panama's not bad but its not particularly special as a sex destination. I don't think you need to worry about the country being overrun by sex tourists.

I agree with tiny 12. I've been to Panama several times and although they have beautiful women, it is too expensive. When America owned the canal zone, the military paid a lot. They would pay taxi driver $20 that would cost $1.50. Women would be paid $200. It was crazy. Now, the businesss men and other people pay $200 -$300. That's a lot of money in panama, when the minimum salary is about 150-200 every fifteen days. And that salary is only in Panama City. People still make five dollars a day in the campo.

Panamanian, I tried to do this via PM but wasn't able. I did not want to insult you or your country, and I'm sorry if I did. I probably should not have used the "f" word in the post. Again, I think your paisanas are more attractive than the women from my country, although the Colombians are the most beautiful of all.

And I agree with Allover and Peace1, there aren't many tourists going to Panama just to have sex with the women. And although some of the Colombian prostitutes are very beautiful, they're cheaper in Colombia. It's the foreign businessmen and Panamanians who are running up prices; the sex tourists are a minority.

Paisano.
This is the ISG, a site to exchange information about sex in different places in the world.
What were you expecting to find here? Info about the weather, traffic, nice beaches, rivers and islands?

Men who read this forum are looking for inside information regarding sex in a particular country and nothing else

The only reason why we should get worried is if tourist push the prices up. Nothing else.
Cheers
LatinBull.

[QUOTE=HoleRanger] Not cheap but worth it. $200 for several hours.
[/QUOTE]

Hole, good to hear it was a good experience, but $200!!!! Come on dude!!!! You could have saved a $100 if you might have followed all the knowledge found in this board!!! You might have made a date after her shift and get her to go to your room for a $100!!! This is everything that we all are affraid of, getting the prices up!. Please Hole try to use to info found here to your(and ours too)advantange

This is for my American neighbours, if you're worried about traveling as an American into countries like Panama then fear not!

I'm from Toronto, Canada but I suppose I look American (at least most Panamanians thought I was a Yank).

I figured with all the war bullshit going on most Americans wouldnt get too much of a welcome reception around the world.

This may be true for some countries but not for Panama. Every person I met spoke highly of America, one guy even said Americans are "great people".

I was a bit surprised by that to be honest.

Every person I met spoke highly of America, one guy even said Americans are "great people".

The U.S. has been good to Panama. Let's remember we gave them their canal. The canal has been very good financially for the country. Prior to Busch, the U.S. has helped or tried to help many other countries that don't appreciate it. France is the best example. Screw France. God bless Panama.

[QUOTE=LatinJaguar27]Hey Buck501,

I live in Panama City and may be available during Carnival.

Would you like to meet for a beer or two?

Cheers![/QUOTE]Sorry LJ, I did not read this untill my return to the US. I would have liked to hook up for a brew.

I guess I do not get the whole Carnaval thing. I had to stand in line for over 2 hours to get in. It was at night and all that was going on was music and drinking.

PC was about closed down, the service in the resturants was worse then normal, which is bad to say the least. One nice thing was the traffic was light. You could get around town quickly.

Habano's was open all but one night. Several chicas working. Labodeguita was rockin with plenty of chicas. Manolo's had several hanging around in the early evening. Veneto's casino was packed every time I was there with plenty of chicas. The streets had several chicas walking around from place to place. I guess the chicas don't care too much for Caraval cuz the work is slow, but they gotta make some $$$$$$ to survive. I saw working girls every place I went.

I don't think I would ever return to PC during Carnaval. I was not into the Carnaval and the town kinda dried up. I do not go there for just the chica's. There were plenty available though. But there are always plenty available.

My .02 cents on prices for the chica's. $100.00 to $200.00 for several hours of entertainment with a young hot gal is waaaaaaaaaaaay less then in the US. The chicas are there to get money for familys or whatever reason. They don't bang several guys a night, maybe, if they are lucky, but very rare, They can go days without earning any money. If you spend the $$$ to go to PC, the chicas are not expensive in realation to the trip. Take out a girl in the US to dinner and drinks, see what the cost is, and you might not even get laid. I do not think the prices are out of line. I know many of you will not agree. Hell, I would bet most of make more money in a couple of hours then the average Colombian makes in a month. The cost for them to live in PC and support familily in Colombia is pretty steep. I am NOT saying to not barter with them. I think the MP prices are way out of line. The independents can way more reasonable for the amount of time they will spend with you.

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Hey fellas, I'll be in PC for some mongering in late april with some friends. I've been doing tons of reading on everything and I'm kinda overwhelmed. Planning my trip to CR was a breeze compared to here. My problems are- what the best location to stay is. Is there a "strip" in PC with bars/clubs as in other major cities or are hotspots spread out throughout the various neighborhoods? A couple of my buds are into fishing options. Are there charter trips available from areas within PC or do we need to travel to resort spots? Is prostitution legal there as in CR? (I assume yes, but that should never be a stupid question here)

The Veneto Casino is offering rooms for 98.00 per night. Would you guys consider that a good deal or are there better options? Is that a good locale in comparison to other spots? Sorry for all the questions, just racking my head trying to plan this out.

I did see a great website for a club in PC- [url]http://www.nextpanama.com/index.asp[/url]. It's in Spanish and not really a mongering spot I suppose, but the 'fotos' section has pics of the hottest women I've seen!!

Greetings Jay Max,

I have been to Panama City many times and will try to help you. The Veneto is a fine choice at a very decent price for $98.00. Sure, there are cheaper places in the same area (Seville Suites, Hotel Milan, Marbella, Ambassador), but the Veneto is hard to beat as it is always stocked full of high end Colombiana's. The bar on the second floor casino area is a delight any night after about 9:00pm. They will ask for $100 (cien) for one hour. However, you can buy them a drink and do a bit of sweet talking and get 2-3 hours for that price. In fact, if you wait till about 1-2am, you should get an all nighter for that $100. Just buy them breakfast in the morning before you send them on their way.

Also, the Veneto is well located and is in the thick of the action for night time activities. Nearby (3 minute walk) is the Club Capri and the Oasis massage. This whole area is in part of the city called El Cangrejo (the crab).

Great area, and safe to walk around at night. Plenty of liquor stores around to buy some booze/snack foods to take to the room with your girl.

As far as clubs, just to make it easy and not overly complicated, take a taxi to Club Miami or Golden Times. I like the Miami as it is not as rushed as GT. Only complaint is the music is too loud making it hard to take with the girls who are mainly from Colombia. One hour in the basic and clean back room is about $85.00 or so dollars. If you like the girl, make arrangements with the girl while in the back, to come to your hotel on her day off or before or after work. This way you can get several hours for that same $100 or all night for about $150.00

It is all legal and nobody cares that you are 'dating' the girls. In fact, if you bring a really nice one up to the room at the Veneto, the suit clad security by the elevator may give you a smile and a thumbs up.

DON'T make it hard on yourself. Follow the simple examples above and you will be busy for at least a week with just the venues I listed above. Of course there are many other places and choices that are also very nice. But no need to make it complicated. Keep it simple on your first trip there.

Lastly, treat the girls with respect and be polite. Most of them are actually decent people. Don't forget that.

I hope this helps you.

Viva Chicas

JayMax,

While I've had problems with Veneto, $98 is a good rate. Just make sure you have something in writing showing $98 or they may try to jack the rate up on you. Location is ideal -- the best freelancer action is in Veneto Casino, Habano's, which is about a 5 minute walk, and La Bodeguita, a short taxi ride away. Veneto is reasonably close to the two most upscale strip clubs, Le Palace and Elite. Also very close to Oasis, Life Girls, and one of the Capri's. Other girl-friendly hotels in the area are Continental Riande and Marriott. El Panama and Hotel Ejecutivo are good places to stay in same area but not as girl-friendly. Prostitution is legal in Panama, but most of the freelancers are Colombians who are either in the country on a tourist visa or who have overstayed their visas. As such they're working illegally. This does not apply to the Colombians working in places like the strip clubs and Golden Time -- they have work visas, so are legal.

One comment, although you'll find plenty of action close to your hotel, be sure and check out Golden Time. It's not close to the Veneto. It is the best cathouse in Central America, IMHO. Also, Miami, close to Golden Time, offers the best quality/price combination of the strip clubs.

Jay,

Reading shit over the inet can sometimes get confusing. I understand, I live here in Panama and all the info Tiny and Viva have told you is right on! Dont make it more complicated then it has to be:
1. Stay in the Veneto
2. Take a Taxi to the ho houses you would like to visit.
3. Follow the list Tiny and Viva have given you.
Lastly, Club Next WAS a non pro disco that is now closed down. If you want to try your hand at the non pros to go calle uruguay.

Free

Sorry Viva, your post didn't show up here until after mine or I wouldn't have repeated the good info you already provided.

Fellas,

Thanks for the great responses. It definitely makes my choices easier. Sad to hear that Club Next is closed. I heard it was a nice pick-up spot for non-pros. We will definitely hit calle Uruguay though since I read there's some other hot spots there.

Quick follow-up questions: Is there an added room fee for having a chica stay with you in the hotel as in CR? Is the rainy season a threat for us for late April? Any good maps of PC anyone can point me too?

Hope to post a good follow-up after the trip.

1. No room fee.
2. Rainy season NOT a threat.
3. Fuck a map, just take the taxis, everything is close.

Tiny and Viva have given you great info.

Free is right on about how confusing this sounds on the internet. The main area is an easy walking trip. I have done it late at night. No problem. My advice would be stay at Veneto. Come out the front door. Turn right. See what you will see. Go straight to Via Espana. Turn Left. Walk to the covered bridge. Cross the street. You will be at Supermarket Rey and Life Girls(name changed recently). Once there ask someone how to walk to the Marriott. It is two minutes. Across the street from the Marriott is Habanos. A little further down the street is Le Palace. Anything else take a taxi.

Now your mission in return for all the great info everyone has given you

A report on the new Life Girls. The name has changed to Club Midnight. They have a $10 cover now. If you get there early (8 - 10) it is open bar. If you get there after 10 you get a couple drinks and some dances. This information to me is seconhand. So we need someone on the ground to give us an update. Also what the pricing/approach and quality is.

ENJOY!

[QUOTE=Jay Max]Fellas,

Thanks for the great responses.........Hope to post a good follow-up after the trip.[/QUOTE]

Jay,
We will be waiting for your detailed report. It would be interesting read your observations and experience.

Good Luck!

~BKKguru

[QUOTE=Free Sex]3. Fuck a map, just take the taxis, everything is close.[/QUOTE]Yeah. Once you get downtown taxis are only $1. 25 for damn near anywhere you want to go. I got ripped off going to Mira Flores Locks though. I was with a local non-pro. We didn't ask the price before we got into the taxi. He stopped for gas and it was $11. I was thinking to myself I bet this mf is going to try to get his gas money back from me. Sure enough when we got to the canal he said it would be $16. I knew it was some bullshit. On the way back we only paid $6. One again the age-old rule applies, always come to an agreement on the price and the exact services beforehand.

[QUOTE=Regulr Travlr]
A report on the new Life Girls. The name has changed to Club Midnight. They have a $10 cover now. If you get there early (8 - 10) it is open bar. If you get there after 10 you get a couple drinks and some dances. This information to me is seconhand. So we need someone on the ground to give us an update. Also what the pricing/approach and quality is.

ENJOY![/QUOTE]

Info is accurate, they have a big banner on the front with that info. Dont know about the quality, but since they only changed the name Im pretty sure that the contents havent changed, but I might be wrong since I havent been there in awhile

Hi amigos,

Does anyone know if a Paisa named Giselle (real name Marisol G.) is still working at Elite. She was there last fall, but said she was going to return to Medellin in Dec. She would be worth another visit to Panama:)

Muchas gracias.

[QUOTE=Kiev Petr]Hi amigos,

Does anyone know if a Paisa named Giselle (real name Marisol G.) is still working at Elite. She was there last fall, but said she was going to return to Medellin in Dec. She would be worth another visit to Panama:)

Muchas gracias.[/QUOTE]If she was working at Elite she was under a contract that coincided with her visa. She would have to return home as she indicated. I believe that they cannot return to Panama for a certain number of months. Of course she could have stayed on illegally and working as an independent, but that is risky. Also, nowhere near as profitable as working in Elite. Those girls are the big earners.

Do you have her contact info in Medellin? I would be happy to give her your love on my next visit!

Any know if the Radisson is chica friendly? If so, any suggestions for a high end chica friendly hotel? Thanks.

I don't know about Chica-friendly, but it can be a pain in the ass to get there and back from the best mongering spots when the traffic is bad. I met a scantily-dressed Colombiana in their Lobby once with no problem, and the times I've been there in early evening it was busy enough I don't think anyone would notice.

Marriott is a high end chica friendly hotel. Veneto offers reasonably good quality and is very chica friendly.

Chica friendly hotels,

Everything Tiny said and posted on the board TONS of times.

Free

The girl in back now has dark hair (within the last month). I will post her new picture and number as soon as I find it.

Fantasy

Thanks very much for the help.

Look forward to the photo and info on her.

Have a great day man.

Happy hunting

Fellas, I'm finalizing my trip to PC but I wanted to share a great PC city map I found after painful searching. Too big to post as a .jpg here so I'm providing the hyperlink. Maybe someone can covert this to .pdf and file it for future reference? I hope it helps fellow mongers with their plans.

[url]http://www.stri.org/images/Mapas/Panama_City.jpg[/url]

Now here's my update...

Dates: April 19-26th
Veneto has pumped up their rate to $145/night so it looks like we're staying nearby, possibly Crowne Plaza $83/night or Riande Continental $72/night. Both close to Veneto. I know you guys mentioned cheaper locales but I'm not willing to experiment with my zzzz's the first trip there so I'm playing it conservative with the hotel. Anyone with better suggestions please chime back but I def want to stay near Veneto's. Also, anything else we should know about the calle Uruguay hotspots?

My mongering antennae are on overload right now- deep breath Jay, LOL. Thanks again.

La Bodeguita is still bumping with fine women, I got this one girls number but proceeded to loose it last night. If anyone knows a fine busty little colombian that goes by Tatiana, hook me up. I definatly want to give her a spin.

[QUOTE=Jay Max]Fellas, Also, anything else we should know about the calle Uruguay hotspots?

QUOTE]

Go there!

I had asked about this place before but no one had ever seemed to hear of it. Once in a while I will take a nasty type to one of these theatre type places and bang the crap out of her in front of a crowd (ok, I am twisted).

This place is called Cine Tropical and it is on Calle I near Avenida Central. Modern enough place with a small balcony and larger theatre areas. No problems doing whatever you like. As is often the case you will have quite a crowd.

Not for everyone, but I figure sharing info is always good.

[QUOTE=Jay Max]

Dates: April 19-26th
Veneto has pumped up their rate to $145/night so it looks like we're staying nearby, possibly Crowne Plaza $83/night or Riande Continental $72/night. Both close to Veneto. I know you guys mentioned cheaper locales but I'm not willing to experiment with my zzzz's the first trip there so I'm playing it conservative with the hotel. Anyone with better suggestions please chime back but I def want to stay near Veneto's. Also, anything else we should know about the calle Uruguay hotspots?

My mongering antennae are on overload right now- deep breath Jay, LOL. Thanks again.[/QUOTE]

Las Vegas Suites is a perfectly decent place, located kitty corner from the Veneto around 30 yards away from the main entrance to the Veneto casino. No problem bringing ladies to your room, either, and the rooms come with a basic fridge, microwave, and stove as well. If you are staying for a week, you can get a corporate rate, you can get the rate down to $30-35/night. The single night, no discount rates start at $55/night.

[url]http://www.lasvegaspanama.com/en/las-vegas-hotel.html[/url]

Free Here,

Wow Holden! Great info, I doubt I will ever go there, but GOOD to know.

Another thing about this place is that the rooms vary greatly. I was given one that I thought would be noisy and asked to wait for whatever would be ready that was better. I am always pretty nice to hotel/waiter types and this may have helped. The room was literally twice the size of the normal ones. And really nice. The corner ones facing into the courtyard are the best. It also had a ton of extra pillows which ended up getting me laid with a tourist chick who was terrified to go out at night.

You never know what is going to do the trick.

Riande Continental is an excellent choice if you don't mind street noise. If you can get a room on a high floor, the noise level should be acceptable. It is very girl friendly. Location can't be beat -- smack dab in the middle of everything in the Espana area. I pulled one excellent lay from the adjoining casino. I got a suite there a few years ago that was reasonably priced (around $100) that was a killer place for parties. If I were going with a group I'd make sure at least one person had a suite.

I've never stayed at Crowne Plaza, but it looks like a nice place from the outside. It's not quite as well located as the Riande Continental.

[QUOTE=Jay Max]Dates: April 19-26th
Veneto has pumped up their rate to $145/night so it looks like we're staying nearby, possibly Crowne Plaza $83/night or Riande Continental $72/night. Both close to Veneto. [/QUOTE]

Hey guys a little help please? I have to take a high-end business client out for the evening? He is into total perfection with the ladies. Where are the best places to go for this? Elite, etc. How much should I expect to spend, and how much for takeout?

Thanks in advance.

I'd recommend going by Golden Time early, around 8:00 PM, when selection should be excellent. You can get take out for all night for $250, unless they've raised the price. So pick a couple of women, go dining, dancing and back to the hotel room. Or pay $140 for 1-1/2 hour take-out. One warning, I've had two women from GT try to leave early, about 3:00 AM, when I took them out for all night. If you're really interested in making sure your client is happy, I'd either have a talk with management and the girls to make sure they're not going to do a runner, or maybe offer a tip if she stays around until noon or whenever.

If you want to go to a strip club, Le Palace has on average better looking women than Elite and lower pressure environment, although Elite has better shows and more of a "party" atmosphere. My personal preference is Elite. In those places you'll have to pay $150 barfine or equivalent in drinks for the stripper, plus whatever you negotiate with the woman, plus whatever you spend on tips. You're looking at dropping maybe $450 per person when all is said and done. That's assuming you choose to pay $20 for cover and all-you-can-drink. I don't think that includes premium drinks.

In terms of looks, I'd rate GT first, Le Palace second, and Elite third. Some people argue Le Palace is number one, although I think they're overrating the women there because of the poor lighting.

One qualification -- if it's Sunday, your best bet is probably Elite. Le Palace is closed, and selection in GT on Sundays is often poor.

If you've got some time on previous nights for reconnaissance, you can cut your costs substantially, by finding some reliable independents or getting GT/Le Palace/Elite girl to skip work or getting her on a night off.

Thanks Tiny, my friends and I were wondering how chica friendly Crowne Plaza was... my instincts tell me the Crowne Plaza is clean cut and more into business clientele, not the tourist. Nice to know I don't have to wonder about the Riande though, thanks!

Jaymax, one warning, the last time I stayed there was 3 years ago. The doormen would just smile and give an admiring glance at my date. My buddy checked his in at the front desk, although I don't think that was necessary.

I have read quite a bit on this forum. I am confirmed for trip to PTY on April 27th. I do not want to stay in a dump and do not mind paying $80-$140 a night. I see several posts where people report to pay $90 a night or cheaper for Veneto Hotel? On their website says $165/nigh. Even I called them and check on expedia and says the same? How are u guys getting such deals?

Any info on the Courtyard that is attached to a TGIF restaurant? It is going for $70/night. I just didn't know if its still in the city or too far from all the action.

I had also considered El Panama but not sure if its too old or run down for the $120/night they are asking for? The other choice is Raddison but at $150/night its reaching the upper end of what i am willing to spend. All inputs appreciated.

I have read quite a bit on this forum. I am confirmed for trip to PTY on April 27th. I do not want to stay in a dump and do not mind paying $80-$140 a night. I see several posts where people report to pay $90 a night or cheaper for Veneto Hotel? On their website says $165/nigh. Even I called them and check on expedia and says the same? How are u guys getting such deals?

Any info on the Courtyard that is attached to a TGIF restaurant? It is going for $70/night. I just didn't know if its still in the city or too far from all the action.

I had also considered El Panama but not sure if its too old or run down for the $120/night they are asking for? The other choice is Raddison but at $150/night its reaching the upper end of what i am willing to spend. All inputs appreciated.

Pass on the El Panama Hotel. Yes it is too run down and old for a $120 a night price!


The casino of the El Panaman, is fun to walk around in during the day or late afternoon however.
A few freelancers, semi-pros available as I recall. :cool:

Ssoleymani, I'm not sure which hotel you're talking about. The hotel attached to the TGIF's is Country Inn & Suites. It's in Amador area. The Courtyard is next to Multiplaza mall. Neither is close to the action, but both are in nice areas. I haven't stayed in either. The Radisson is a nice hotel, but again not close to the action.

Here's run down on places I've stayed at:

Executive Hotel (Hotel Ejecutivo): Getting a little old, but good value at around $80 including breakfast. Very good location, across the street from Le Palace and in walking distance of Elite, Veneto, Habano's. I haven't had problems with street noise here, and A/C works well. Breakfast buffet is good and restaurant is a popular late night eating spot for some hookers. They will make you register your guest and will charge you an extra $10. Lousy gym.

Continental Riande - Reviewed just below in this thread. Girl friendly, excellent location, and at $70 a good value if you can put up with the street noise. Has attached casino, good restaurant. Kick ass suites. No A/C in the lobby.

Veneto - Great location, with one of the biggest selections of free lancers right there in the hotel's casino. Extremely girl friendly. Brand new, nice furnishings in the rooms. A 4 star hotel, with a few kinks still to be worked out. I paid $145, as you say others report lower internet rates. Great gym. I feel like they screwed me on the room rate and probably won't go back.

Bristol -- Nicest hotel I've stayed at in Panama City. Rooms come with a Butler. I paid around $175 a couple of years ago, probably over $200 now. They don't charge extra for your date and will permit her to enter, but they will do their best to make you and her feel like shit.

Miramar Intercontinental - Although it's about a 5 minute taxi ride away from Espana, I like this place. Great restaurants and pool. Right on the Pacific ocean. Costs about $150. I only had one woman visit me in the room, and she had no problem coming up, but I don't have enough of a sampling to know whether they're girl friendly. Great gym.

Montreal -- If you're on a budget, this place is acceptable. Costs around $30. A/C works well and there's a bar on site where hookers hang out. About 3 minutes in taxi to Espana area. I don't trust security -- the bellman came in the room and started playing with the light switch when I was banging a couple of hookers.

Las Vegas and Marriott are very popular medium-end and high-end choices, respectively. They're well located. I've never stayed at either.

Tiny 12,

Thank you for the info. Yes I got mixed up. I was referring to the Country Inn & suites (not the Courtyard) the one that has a TGIF restaurant. I have narrowed my choice to either that or Raddison.

Does anyone know if either the Raddison or the Country Inn & Suites are girl friendly?

Thank You

Ssoleymani,

It was me that quoted that rate for Veneto at $90 per night. I got the quote directly from their site about a month ago. Then the rate jumped up again soon after that. Probably a promotion rate or something like that. I emailed them a reservation request and a customer service rep asked to reply or call with my credit card info to reserve the room. Well, needless to say I was skeptical about that so I held out. Turns out sites like tripadvisor.com says Veneto is known for spiking their bills without informing you. Checkout then becomes a nightmare. They know you have a plane to catch and try to nickel and dime you. Also claims from others that the cleaning staff raid your fridge for snacks to pad the bill too. Now, I can't confirm or deny these claims but thought I would stay in a more mainstream hotel till I see for myself. Bottom line if you stay at Veneto, get a printout of your bill daily and check your room carefully well b4 leaving. Maybe that's a good advice for any place you stay in... I'm still deciding between Crowne Plaza and Riande Continental. Veneto is out. The rate taps into my chica budget. :)

Tony Roma's is next to the Courtyard, not a TGIF. The Courtyard is a fairly short taxi ride to the action. The mall is a very modern, American looking mall. Remember traffic at times is horrible in Panama City. They have free computers with internet access near the lobby. This hotel is a good value and I recommend it if you don't want to pay Veneto prices.

The Country Inn is great for the visiting the canal but is otherwise very far from the action. Do not stay here if you plan on chasing women during your PC visit.

I stayed at Veneto and liked it a lot. The facility's are good, the shower is huge, and girls are often downstairs in the bar and casino. The location is the best in town imho--ground zero for mongering.

Marriott is a great hotel with a good location. Habanos is right across the street, but I thought Habanos had ugly women.

Free Here,

Allover has brought up a VERY important point. If you travel within the hours of about 4-7ishpm on a pay weekend, (The 1st and 15th) it could literally take a taxi 45 mins to get you to the "main" part of the city, Via Espana etc from The Courtyard. Just factor that into your day. When you stay at hotels "around" Via Espana like The Veneto, Las Vegas Suites etc. you can literally WALK to a decent number of MP and other places to chase chicas.

FREE

Ssoleymani, what Free and Allover are saying about Country Inn & Courtyard applies to your other choice, the Radisson. Last time I was in Panama I literally spent an hour on Avenida Balboa, going from the Radisson to Espana. That was on a Friday night around 7:00 PM when traffic was really bad.

While I've never been inside Country Inn, the Radisson should be a MUCH nicer hotel. If you were concentrating on nonpros it would be a great choice. They've got a great bar and are located across the street from the upscale Multicentro shopping mall. There are some nice small restaurants and bars on ground level of Multicentro facing the street, also a Hard Rock Cafe inside the mall.

Can't say whether either of your choices is girl friendly, except that I met up with a scantily dressed Colombiana in Radisson lobby who arrived 30 minutes before me, and we had no problems.

That reminds me of another reasonably good choice in same area as Radisson-- Plaza Paitilla. Cost is about $60-$70/night. My room was musty smelling, but there was no street noise, bed was comfortable, and view through the panoramic floor-to-ceiling windows was spectacular. If you're a little on the exhibicionist side and have a city view it's an interesting place. Hotel is right on the ocean, and girl friendly. You'll have same problems described by Free if you're going to Espana or Golden Time/Miami when the traffic is bad.

[QUOTE=Ssoleymani]Tiny 12,

Thank you for the info. Yes I got mixed up. I was referring to the Country Inn & suites (not the Courtyard) the one that has a TGIF restaurant. I have narrowed my choice to either that or Raddison.

Does anyone know if either the Raddison or the Country Inn & Suites are girl friendly?

Thank You[/QUOTE]

If you are staying at the Country Inn the only things you are close to are Golden Times and Miami. And even to those you will need a short taxi ride. It is a longer ride into town for the main action. It is not the cost, but the time, as Tiny, Allover and Free have said. A friend just stayed at the Continental Riande and was very pleased with it. It is about the most central point to all the walkable "attractions". Probably the midpoint between Veneto and Marriott.

I made a decompression stop in Panama after my 9 day stay at Club VIP in Medellin. Turns out another member, Grobo, who was also at VIP was heading to Panama as well. We made plans to hook up. Grobo is an expert gambler and was now perfecting his strategy at the craps table. This involves how you throw the dice, pretty interesting. We also hooked up to play some blackjack and neutralize the effect of all the idiots at the tables in Panama. Overall we did well.

The first night I arrived I had plans to see a girl I had spent a night with previously. I had met her in La Bodeguita on the last trip and we hit it off. So I promised to hook up with her when I got back to Panama to see how it would go. She showed up in dressed to kill for the “date”. We grabbed dinner and had a good conversation. Turns out she was a lot more professional than I had thought. She told me she worked in St. Maarten, Curacao and Aruba. She said she worked there in bars and restaurants. However, after having read about much of these spots on ISG I knew this was unlikely. What Colombiana would pay airfare and hotel costs to work on an island for tips? She was also 27 which put her a little past my desired age range, especially for a WG. After dinner we headed over to Veneto for some blackjack with Grobo. We then grabbed a table together in the lounge for some drinks and to scout out a chica for Grobo. The Veneto was really buzzing. A large number of working girls. Apparently this is one of the times when they have their open admission policy. Grobo spots a dark haired beauty and invites her over. Turns out she is 20 and from Pereira. She had only been in Panama for a few days. She previously worked in Hong Kong. You guessed it, in a restaurant! We split up a while later. Grobo reported she was not very good. I had a good night and morning with my girl, but will not repeat, based on the factors discussed above.

The next night Grobo and I decided to celebrate some gambling victories. We decided to hit Le Palace. First we met at Habanos for a drink. Got there about 10 only two girls. By the time we left at 10:45 a lot more girls had arrived. About 60% 7’s and above. We did not attempt any negotiations here. The key thing to point out is do not get here before 10:30. I see a lot of guys from the Marriott walking over at 8:00. There are no girls here that early. Also, similar to Veneto there are a lot if independents around now.

We moved on to Le Palace. They always have some of the finest girls and a lot of them. However in the time I have been coming to Panama I have only taken two girls from here. One on the clock, the other off. Both were very good looking and fun in the club. Both were mediocre performers in the room. So I was little worried. As expected there were at least 30 girls here, the majority top notch. We settled in and scanned the room, soon focusing on a couple of prospects. Grobo’s had a Brazilian look about her. Mine is in the attached pics. A 19 year old from Pereira. Real fun in the club. We talked about similar interests. She loved to swear in English. Thought it was funny. Some of the customers thought we were fighting as we exchanged curses loudly. We both decided to take our girls and head out. In a real unexpected turn my girl asked if we could stop by her place before we went to my room. She wanted to pick up some music CD’s and other party supplies. Apparently she suffers from glaucoma. We went by her place, which she shares with 3 other LP girls. It was a real nice house less than 10 minutes from the club. Even more surprising she invited me in while she gathered her things. It was very nice inside and she even had a flat screen TV in her bedroom. We took off and went to the Marriott where we partied for hours. The really cool thing was she loved American rock. I have digitized all my music and she was really excited to see things like Aerosmith and Guns and Roses. I turned her on to some new music by Robert Randolph and she really got into Buckcherry’s Crazy *****. Promised to make her a new CD when I return. Turned out to be really fun in bed as well. Even DFK during sex. Seemed to get into it. The only thing I could not get her to change was a CBJ. I am hoping that a repeat visit will help here. She ended up crashing after the first round and staying till the morning and another round. This was also a first for a LP girl. So my luck at the tables apparently extended to the chicas!

In the interest of science, Grobo and I decided to check out the new Club Midnight, formerly Life Girls. We were actually looking for something to do fairly early, around 8:30. We were handed fliers on the street corner on the way to Veneto and assured there were a lot of girls there already. So off we went. They have a cover charge that includes some benefits and I personally think it is not too bad. It is $10 and you have two options. One option is open bar until midnight. The other is two drinks and 1 table dance. We both chose the second option as we were not there to drink. Turned out there were about 15 girls there and most were fairly attractive with good bodies. None of the girls from the old club were carried over. They are currently operating out of the old club on the 2nd floor, but will be moving up to the 3rd floor shortly. They are also going to reopen the onsite rooms for action with the chicas. The current pricing is $150 bar fine and negotiation with the girls. It can be for an hour or TLN. The girls drink prices are $10 but they were not overly pushy. The free table dance was delivered with vigor, and the girl got topless. The new owner is American and the girls we talked to seemed to think he treated them fairly. There was a good crowd for the couple of hours we were in there. While it is pricey to take a girl from here, it does present a nice option to kill a couple of hours in the early evening. Most of the other action does not get going until later. We also learned that there are usually up to 20 girls there but a few had already been taken out when we got there. Also, the club is open 7 days and the girls get a rotating day off. The days off are Friday, Saturday and Sunday. So the full compliment of girls is usually available on Monday thru Thursday.

Also, the Marriott Casino is remodeling. They have put in a new bar and waitresses in skimpy outfits. They are adding a new nightclub inside the casino area where the old 2 story stage was. Not sure when it will be complete. We were never in this casino late enough to evaluate the WG content. They have put a restaurant on the second floor of the casino and are offering a $2.99 lunch buffet. A lot of the local office workers are eating there, with some not so bad sites.

[QUOTE=SpiderMonkey]wow . im glad you had a good time. some hot chicas.
spider[/QUOTE]


Now you see why I had to wait so long to write my reports. Absolutely no free time!

Reg Trav,

Very nice report and two very pretty girls! I'm sorry you had to "slum it" with a 27 yo (lol) I know that is a good bit older than the kind of girls you usually hang with! ;)

I'm glad to hear that the atmosphere at the Veneto Hotel is still electric! Packed with wg's. The Marriott is some classy place but the Veneto seems to be the choice for quality and atmosphere (if p4p is what you're interested in)

I have to admit when you wrote that the girl you were with had glaucoma - I was waiting for the "punch line". Like "she must be blind to hang out with a bunch of drunk Gringos like us" (lol)

But -evidently she [b]really has glaucoma?[/b].....well that's sad. :(

Thanks for the report.............

Regulr Travlr,

I will be in a few months in Panama City and I would like to know how high the prices in my favourite Le Palace are? The last year you had to wait until the club close and with 120-150 you could leave with a chica muy hermosa?

Jorge de Grecia

[QUOTE=Ford]Reg Trav,

I have to admit when you wrote that the girl you were with had glaucoma - I was waiting for the "punch line". Like "she must be blind to hang out with a bunch of drunk Gringos like us" (lol)

But -evidently she [b]really has glaucoma?[/b].....well that's sad. :(

Thanks for the report.............[/QUOTE]


Apparently my sly reference to the legal use of a certain substance to treat glaucoma even snuck by the illustrious Ford!

[QUOTE=Regulr Travlr]Apparently my sly reference to the legal use of a certain substance to treat glaucoma even snuck by the illustrious Ford![/QUOTE]

.......that reference "blew by me" like a Johan Santana fastball! I'm slowing down - next time I'll refer to my Dennis Miller obscure observations handbook first! :D

thanks for the report............

Travlr, Nice reports!

[QUOTE=Pokergr]Regulr Travlr,

I will be in a few months in Panama City and I would like to know how high the prices in my favourite Le Palace are? The last year you had to wait until the club close and with 120-150 you could leave with a chica muy hermosa?

Jorge de Grecia[/QUOTE]

The exit fee for the bar is $150. But if you buy a bottle of champagne for the girl, the fee is waived. So if you decide you are going to take a girl you might as well get a bottle of champagne. At least she will be getting a buzz and you won't have to buy her other drinks. The girls charge an additional $200. This is the standard pricing and I don't usually do this, but we were celebrating. The approach you suggest of getting a girl on her own at the end of the night works just fine. What I would do is get there late and drink with one until it looks like she is not going to have a chance to get another customer. The only downside is that some of the best ones have been already taken through the standard approach.

A couple of days ago I was roaming in the area near GT and stopped for quick snack at Popeye's in the same minimall that GT is located around 630-7pm and was surprised to see this pack of ladies eating there, around 10, all of them stunners.
Made my math and figured out that they couldnt be from any other place than the GT itself!!
So it would be wise to go an eat there around that time to check the girls and maybe struck a conversation and hook later with one of them

[QUOTE=Regulr Travlr]The exit fee for the bar is $150. ... The girls charge an additional $200. This is the standard pricing and I don't usually do this, but we were celebrating. [/QUOTE]So you have to pay $350 US for a girl from there? I hope that is for all night... Its alot cheaper elsewhere, but are these girls really that hot?

[QUOTE=GauntMan]A couple of days ago I was roaming in the area near GT and stopped for quick snack at Popeye's in the same minimall that GT is located around 630-7pm and was surprised to see this pack of ladies eating there, around 10, all of them stunners.
Made my math and figured out that they couldnt be from any other place than the GT itself!!
So it would be wise to go an eat there around that time to check the girls and maybe struck a conversation and hook later with one of them[/QUOTE]

.....Jackson's ISG is unequaled on the "net" for learning about how to meet women. Where else can you find out that a possible way to avoid a sc "multa" and getting the digits of a wg is by eating dinner at a "Popeyes" in a minimall - between 6:30-7:00! :D

All kidding aside GM, I know that Popeyes and that's not a bad tip!

cheers............

[QUOTE=Npaul1]So you have to pay $350 US for a girl from there? I hope that is for all night... Its alot cheaper elsewhere, but are these girls really that hot?[/QUOTE]

We made a conscious decision to go to Le Palace that night to celebrate. We were fully aware of the pricing structure. If you read my previous posts you will know that my favorite place in Panama is La Bodeguita where you can get independents for a third of the price that we paid. I also like the atmosphere there. As I mentioned we also stopped in Habanos on the way over, but only for a drink. We could have found one there for under $100. But we chose not to. I know the pricing structure very well in Panama. Low end to high end. Grobo and I felt the night deserved high end. I was satisfied with my result, as was Grobo. I have my girls number and will see her outside the club next time, for much less. But I know I will have a good time.

I have been in Le Palace many times with my novia just for drinks and to talk with some of her friends. Every night we are there we see many girls getting taken out of the club. So obviously a market exists for this (and Elite) in Panama. Just as the market exists for the independents and the lower end bars. Variety is the key, also the freedom of choice.

Ford - I am sorry but I will not eat at Popeyers every night with you next time you are in Panama!

Ok, so its confirmed. I just made resesrvations with Crowne Plaza for $85/night. It was $116/night, but after I mentioned that I am a AAA member, they reduced it to $85/night. Hell its worth the AAA membership if you don't have one, if you stay more than a couple of nights. I will be flying in on 4/27 and leaving 5/1. I will submit a report when I get back.

Manolos, directly across from Hotel Veneto, is the place to eat every meal in PC. Just watch your cameras and cell phones. They have magicians working there that perform right at your table!!!

Fantasy

but the food is great and cheap too.............

Fantasy

Thanks for the info on Panama.

You posted that you knew the girl in the back.

I'm going to Panama next week and would like to find her.

Where was she working at?

I knew her as Carolina is that still her name?

Any info would be greatly appreciated,

I enjoy all your posts

Thanks for helping out

Studly

I answered you in the St. Marteen thread, sorry.
Have a great time in Panama. I do know of three other Carolinas working in Panama. Seems like that is a popular name amoung *****s. Hope you are staying at the Veneto. it is without a doubt, GROUND ZERO!

Has anyone been to the Golden times?

I read its a massage parlour but more of a ***** house?

Do the girls work out of the rooms that they live in?

Will girls go BBBJ for an extra tip?

What about anal is this also available for an extra tip?

Finally can you take there photos for a tip and can you get 2 at once if you pay double the price (like happy hour except no 2X1 discount)

Also how many times a night do the ladies at golden times get fucked on average?

Any help would be appreciated, going next week to Panama for some fun in the sun and el sexo con la mujeres

Studly

Fantasy,

Read your post , thanks anyways , a fellow monger E mailed me and said that in February she was working at Golden Times.

Will follow up on that lead and any other info I get on Carolina.

Have a good one

Stud

[QUOTE=StudlyHungwell]Has anyone been to the Golden times?

I read its a massage parlour but more of a ***** house?

Do the girls work out of the rooms that they live in?

Will girls go BBBJ for an extra tip?

What about anal is this also available for an extra tip?

Finally can you take there photos for a tip and can you get 2 at once if you pay double the price (like happy hour except no 2X1 discount)

Also how many times a night do the ladies at golden times get fucked on average?

Any help would be appreciated, going next week to Panama for some fun in the sun and el sexo con la mujeres

Studly[/QUOTE]

Its a massage parlor(but what massage parlor isnt a w*ore house anyways?)
Im pretty sure that they go for extra money once out of their shifts.
For the next 2 questions that depends completely on your negotiation skills, you might get both if you play your cards well.
As far as I know, no pics inside GT and Im pretty sure that they might allow 2 at once(hell, youll be paying for the 2, they would be stupid if they dont allow that)
For the last one, youll have to ask the girls themselves

Hello everyone and thank God for this board. I have read most all of the posts and have learned a great deal so far.

I am have to be in Panama on business May 12th. I figure I might as well get there a few days early so I can truly enjoy all that Panama has to offer.

If anyone else plans on being in Panama early May send me a PM. I'll buy the drinks!

[QUOTE=Peace Brother]Hello everyone and thank God for this board. I have read most all of the posts and have learned a great deal so far.

I am have to be in Panama on business May 12th. I figure I might as well get there a few days early so I can truly enjoy all that Panama has to offer.

If anyone else plans on being in Panama early May send me a PM. I'll buy the drinks![/QUOTE]

I'm glad you like the ISG. But, PTY is pretty cheap. You can buy an Atlas Beer in a bar for a $1, you can pay a "bien cuidado" (a street caretaker) about a $1 to watch your car for the night so nobody f**ks with it. Buying drinks for the [b]one[/b] guy who just happens to be down in PTY at the same time as you is no grand, generous gesture!

How about "not leaving any of your fellow Marines behind?" If the board helped you - return the favor by throwing us all some stories, some tips and some photos from your trip mate? Continue to make Jackson's great board great!

Knowledge is power (and its damn cold in the Northeastern part of the US right now!) (lol) :D

Posts some detailed reports, and become a regular [b]contributor.[/b]

Cheers and enjoy your trip!

Well I just confirmed my flight; I'll be there on May 6th. Right now I am deciding between Marriott, Riande Continental, Las Vegas, and Veneto Hotel. I might split the week between two or more hotels. I want the Marriott, but during my stay they want close to $250 a night. That would severely cut into my chica budget.

Most of my mongering will be with the independents, however I will definately try the Oasis Lunch special.

And Ford I will definately contribute to the board after I get to Panama. Still wouldn't mind meeting a fellow board member if any will be down there in early May.

I'll be in PC April 18 for a few days. Can anyone reccommend a good place to find semi-pros?

Also, Anyone know any good drivers?

Thanks

I would definitely take Veneto over Marriott because there are girls in the Veneto every night. Veneto is surely cheaper than $250 and location is better, too.

I have never stayed at Riande or Las Vegas but I would try one of them first. If they aren't nice enough for you switch to Veneto. Just my .02.

[QUOTE=Allover]I would definitely take Veneto over Marriott because there are girls in the Veneto every night. Veneto is surely cheaper than $250 and location is better, too.

I have never stayed at Riande or Las Vegas but I would try one of them first. If they aren't nice enough for you switch to Veneto. Just my .02.[/QUOTE]

Someone mentioned this earlier, but take a look at the Veneto website. They have really increased their room prices. I do agree that there is a lot of action there, but it is no longer a bargain to stay there. They used to have $99 web rate. That is long gone.

There was a lot of discussion about hotels just a few posts back. Take a look Peace. If you are allocating dollars between mongering and lodging then you definitely want to choose between the Riande Continental and Las Vegas. If your room costs are not an issue then go the Veneto/Marriott route. Any of these 4 hotels are easy walking to all the "attractions" .

As Ford said, we look forward to your reports. If you have any specific questions, drop a note.

Has anyone been to Golden times lately.

Is it still the best ***** house in Panama and best bang for the buck?

Do they only hire top notch talent that aim to please?

Is this how they get the reputation as being a good spot in Panama?

Going there soon and I will post a photo or two of my adventure.

Studly

[QUOTE=Peace Brother]Well I just confirmed my flight; I'll be there on May 6th. Right now I am deciding between Marriott, Riande Continental, Las Vegas, and Veneto Hotel. I might split the week between two or more hotels. I want the Marriott, but during my stay they want close to $250 a night. That would severely cut into my chica budget.

Most of my mongering will be with the independents, however I will definately try the Oasis Lunch special.

And Ford I will definately contribute to the board after I get to Panama. Still wouldn't mind meeting a fellow board member if any will be down there in early May.[/QUOTE]

Id gladly guide around anyone that might be around these times, Im currently back in Panama, like you all have noticed indefinately. I have a car, so just drop some gas, drinks and off we go to all those places that you have read(in Panama City that is)

Just a follow-up to the hotels chat- Riande Granada is offering a web promo for $60 a night. Not bad for a hotel near all. It's sister hotel, the Continental, is at $100+ per. I know the Continental is a bit better quality and closer to V's but Granada should be worth a look. Can anyone offer some good tidbits on the Granada since I'm (we) are considering staying there?

Thanks

[QUOTE=BaitAndSwitch]Also, Anyone know any good drivers?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Bait I can't vouch for this, however here are two websites you might try.

[url]http://panama.craigslist.org/ers/283637572.html[/url]

[url]http://www.easytravelpanama.net/[/url]

Regulr Travlr and GauntMan, thanks for the offers of help; I will keep in touch.

Has anyone made contact with chicas using the LatinAmericanCupid site? There are a lot of Panamians on the site, some that speak English. I think most are looking for marriage? I saw some Colombians living in Panama on that site. Is it true that most Colombians living in Panama are just working girls?

Thanks in advance.

Forgot to mention. I'll be spending the first five nights at Hotel Las Vegas. I picked a suite. I know the reports say that Las Vegas is chica friendly, however just to be safe I wrote 2 adults down on the reservation form. Its an extra $5. 00 charge.

The last night I'm going to splurge on the Marriott Hotel. Starting Friday, May, 11th the standard rates go back down to $149. It's still high, but it's a lot better than $250. And also just to be safe I wrote 2 adults down on the reservation form. At the Marriott there was no extra charge for doing this.

[QUOTE=StudlyHungwell]Has anyone been to Golden times lately.

Is it still the best ***** house in Panama and best bang for the buck?

Do they only hire top notch talent that aim to please?

Is this how they get the reputation as being a good spot in Panama?

Going there soon and I will post a photo or two of my adventure.

Studly[/QUOTE]

No. Please ignore all the posts on here about Golden Times. They only have ugly hags with terrible service.

Don't bother with Panama. It is terrible. Ugly girls and cross dressers. You should go to the Dominican Republic and look for that girl Carolina. I am sure some of the regulars can help you there.

There is a huge conspiracy by the Panama regulars to provide false reports and pictures because we get a take from all the new guys coming in to these places.

The DR is where you want to go.

Stud,

You Don't Want To Go To The Dr........ No Aquariums, And The Streets Look Like Downtown Baghdad. I Would Stick With Vip Or The Mansion In Medellin. Do You Own A Bullet Proof Vest?

Plan on visiting Panama city soon.

I am interested in finding clean light skinned hispanic girls. are there any Colombians? I prefer somebody who is in urgent need of money for living(no drugs). Could anyone tell me where to find such? Also what are the rates in Panama?

Your number of posts reflects the questions you are asking. but hell, everyone has to start somewhere, welcome aboard. Now to point you in the right direction. Panama is loaded with Colombianas. Most are very clean, Their business depends upon it. You will find about 9 million that need to pay the rent, fix their refrigerator, and pay for their mothers life or death surgery! 8,999,997 are telling you a little "hispanic" lie. The other three just got to Panama that day, but will likely have these same issues by weeks end. Do you see where I am going with this?
GOOD LUCK, And have a great time. And please don't lose your camera!

Fantasy you forgot about their kid being sick and their electricity going to be turned off, lol.

[QUOTE=Fantasy]Your number of posts reflects the questions you are asking. but hell, everyone has to start somewhere, welcome aboard. Now to point you in the right direction. Panama is loaded with Colombianas. Most are very clean, Their business depends upon it. You will find about 9 million that need to pay the rent, fix their refrigerator, and pay for their mothers life or death surgery! 8,999,997 are telling you a little "hispanic" lie. The other three just got to Panama that day, but will likely have these same issues by weeks end. Do you see where I am going with this?

GOOD LUCK, And have a great time. And please don't lose your camera![/QUOTE]One thing is for sure. When the girl comes to the new country, she needs money to pay for the living. So rent and refrigerator stories make sence to me. No wonder that some of them have to sell their bodies.

Am I wrong? Do they do it simply for love of money?

Also could anyone give more specific information on the issue? I mean where to find them, how much to pay them and for how much time. Also, on average how old are they? How safe is the environment?

If anyone has stayed at the Riande Continental recently I would like your thoughts on it and how close it is to the Veneto Hotel and in addition is it chica friendly?

I read where Panama is going to start requireing a visa for Colombians to enter Panama. Is this going to be the end of Panama City mongering? I wonder how this will affect the action there. It seems like bad news to me.

Just a reminder (to all the newbies, like myself) who plans on using an ATM while in Panama. Call your bank FIRST before you leave!

I called my bank today just asking for info on which ATMs to use in Panama and my bank asked for day in and day out info for when I would be in Panama. I was told that if I hadn't notified them FIRST my card would not have worked and most likely the machine would have eaten the card.

It is a security precaution that many banks use in today's world. Don't say you weren't warned!

As I understand it, and I could be wrong, Panama will issue Visas to Colombians for 30 days. Colombians used to be able to stay in Panama for 3 months as a "tourist" with no problems and even have that time extended. As far as the Chica situation, if they are under "contract" by the club, they will be able to obtain a "work" visa that will be for an extended amount of time (probably 6 months to 1 year). I wonder if they'll have to pay taxes?

I stayed here 3 years ago in '04, the hotel was VERY chica friendly.

As a result of all the street crime related to drug trafficking, the Panama Government will start asking Colombians for a VISA to enter the country before year end.

I don’t believe this is going to be the end to our game, but might impact prices and availability.

Let’s keep an eye on the issue.
LatinBull.

[QUOTE=Peace Brother]Just a reminder (to all the newbies, like myself) who plans on using an ATM while in Panama. Call your bank FIRST before you leave!

I called my bank today just asking for info on which ATMs to use in Panama and my bank asked for day in and day out info for when I would be in Panama. I was told that if I hadn't notified them FIRST my card would not have worked and most likely the machine would have eaten the card.

It is a security precaution that many banks use in today's world. Don't say you weren't warned![/QUOTE]


Which bank? I use Chase (formerly CitiBank) & have never had any problems. I've used it all over the world, Latin America, Europe, Eastern Europe, Asia, etc. The only problem I had (once) is that they put a stop on it because I had charged several times in one week in grossly different locations (I travel a lot) of the world. I called them, told them if I couldn't use their damned card to manage my affairs when I travel I'd find another bank. After all, when you're traveling you really need your card, right? They said no problem, so that may have been similar to what you're referring to.

BTW - that's my reason exactly for NEVER counting on using your ATM card when you travel. I alwys carry enough cash for the trip & then use my ATM when I can to save on the exchange rate.

Good point.

/Dan D.

I only travel Internationally 2-3 times per year. Call me old fashioned but I still use traveler checks. I always get the checks for free but I pay a commisssion when cashing them in. I have read that ATMs gets you the best exchange rate most of the time but my bank charges a withdrawal fee which makes ATMs less attractive.

Dan D,

My bank's ATM card is M and T Bank. I was told I had to find an ATM on the Star/ Plus Network. I'm sure I will get hit up with fees too. I wonder if it would be better to just use a cash advance on my Bank of America Visa card?

Allover I had thought of using traveler's checks, however I heard because Panama uses American Dollars it is difficult to find many places that will cash TCs in Panama. Does anyone know if this is true or not?

Free here,

No, just about any MAJOR bank here in panama will cash travelers checks. Not to mention there are TONS of banks here. BUT I would strongly suggest just bringing your ATM cards, and remember Panama usese the US dollar, no need for the exchange rate bullshit. Any other questions, PM me.

Free

[QUOTE=Fantasy][url]www.visitparadise.org[/url][/QUOTE]

I hope you have better luck with your club than you did with the website......
How about a little information? Maybe like where it is? Whats available?


Majagualo

[QUOTE=Free Sex]Free here,

No, just about any MAJOR bank here in panama will cash travelers checks. Not to mention there are TONS of banks here. BUT I would strongly suggest just bringing your ATM cards, and remember Panama usese the US dollar, no need for the exchange rate bullshit. Any other questions, PM me.

Free[/QUOTE]
But you do get charged for using your us atm card in Panama, as I normally get charged for using my Panama atm card in Managua for example

Does anyone have some advice for choosing a hotel? Veneto seems to be too expensive; are you still allowed to hang out in the casino if you're staying somewhere else? I was thinking of either staying at el Panama or Royal Decameron.

Also, anyone have any advice on getting a female companion to go to the beach for a day or two with me?

No problem hanging out in any casino including Veneto. El Panama is almost next door. I liked the live bands at El Panama and they had a few girls available there at times.

Las Vegas and Riande Continental have been recommended by others. I've never stayed at either of these but their locations are great. Read back through this thread for more hotel info.