Bogota Reports

[QUOTE=LuckyStrike9]Hi, I'm going to be in Bogota soon, and need an answer from someone experienced with calling the escorts site.

1) is what you see on the site, generally the same as what walks through the door?

2) will girls go to a posh apartment in a nice neighborhood, or will they only visit you at a hotel? If they say they only go to hotels, is there a way around this to get her to go to your apartment?

Answers by experienced guys really appreciated!!!

LuckyStrike[/QUOTE]Brazil is the way to go.

Not to short-circuit anyone who is inclined to say "Do a search" or "Read 40 pages back"....

Can anyone tell me some cheap hotels which are chica friendly? Not looking for a 4-5 star hotel. Looking for inexpensive and chica friendly.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Tyhigs77]Not to short-circuit anyone who is inclined to say "Do a search" or "Read 40 pages back"....

Can anyone tell me some cheap hotels which are chica friendly? Not looking for a 4-5 star hotel. Looking for inexpensive and chica friendly.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Suites Real 85 is chica friendly and three blocks from Zona Rosa. It is a nice apartment with kitchen and LR/DR combo.

I see that they changed their website and I was surprised to see that they are now quoting $75 a night.

I stayed there earlier this year for a week at $54 per night. You might try to bargain with them.

[url]http://www.suitesreal.com/en/tarifas85.htm[/url]

DB

I've attempted to walk in a couple of times this year at Suites Real 85 and they have not been able to provide a room. Last year, I turned up at the last minute and they only had one room "the penthouse". Seems like things are busy there. It's still a reasonable value at $75 for the Zona Rosa; it's probably still the cheapest thing around there. However, they don't always respond to email for reservations. You can't be sure there will be a room for you if you show up without them.



[QUOTE=Dodger Bulldog]Suites Real 85 is chica friendly and three blocks from Zona Rosa. It is a nice apartment with kitchen and LR/DR combo.

I see that they changed their website and I was surprised to see that they are now quoting $75 a night.

I stayed there earlier this year for a week at $54 per night. You might try to bargain with them.

[url]http://www.suitesreal.com/en/tarifas85.htm[/url]

DB[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dodger Bulldog]Suites Real 85 is chica friendly and three blocks from Zona Rosa. It is a nice apartment with kitchen and LR/DR combo.

I see that they changed their website and I was surprised to see that they are now quoting $75 a night.

I stayed there earlier this year for a week at $54 per night. You might try to bargain with them.

[url]http://www.suitesreal.com/en/tarifas85.htm[/url]

DB[/QUOTE]

I searched back a few more pages and came upon this phone page listing of hotels in the entire country. Only thing is it doesnt tell me how far each hotel in Bogota is from Zona Rosa.


[url]http://www.yellowpages-caribbean.com/result.cfm?country=CO&Category=Hotels%20and%[/url]

20motels&getkey=&CompName=&Island=&descr=Colombia&search=true

By how much do the women outnumber the men down there? I read 5 to 1 but my Peruvian contact says it is more like 5 women for every 3 men, mostly due to Army/police force recruitment and drug cartel related activity/deaths.

Anyone have more data on this?

Off to Bogota for 9 more days of heaven.

Wish me the strength to survive.

Mel

Mel, good luck, looking forward to your report.

36 hours in Bogota, 3 chicas all non pros. One first afternoon, 2 tnl. I just got rid of chica #3 and am headed to the zona rosa to see what shakes loose. I have a few days to go before I hook you with my regular girl friend.

Mel

Today was a first for me. I got rid of chica #3 and was sitting in the lobby. An absolutely drop dead woman walked by on the way to the elevator. Fine clothes, jewelry, definitely upper class and tall. I looked at her and she gave me a hi sailor smile. I smiled back with a shit eating grin and she walked over and sat down at my table, HUH??? I am over 60 and overweight. We talked; she seemed to have had a fight with her husband and was on the way to the spa to release some of the tension. After 30 minutes and at her suggestion we went to my room. She must have been 6 feet tall and built like the proverbial brick shithouse. Where she learned to screw like she did is still open for discussion. She banged ME like a screen door in a hurricane. Her name and room number is still a mystery. All I can say is that I haven’t had a workout like that in many years , my back hurts, my knees are sore, and the top of my head hurts from her jamming my head down into her pussy. Pardon me while I die until I recover tomorrow.

Good night,

Mel

:) Sounds like a great way to die!

[QUOTE=Mel365] Her name and room number is still a mystery.[/QUOTE]

Hope she hasn't been send by C. to chek out how devoted you are to her ;)
Have fun during those few days of freedom. What has been your hunting ground where you met your victims?

Last night I thought I was done but I got horny and hungry about 10 pm. I went to parque 93 to the seafood restaurant. There was a table of 4 very cute and young chicas having dinner. I smiled they smiled and the conversation started. Come to find out they are going on vacation in November to St Martin for 90 days.

I smiled and said Carolinas? 2 yes 2 no. I said Seamans the other two said yes. They had come from Cali to get their visas today. It seems that they decided late and had to come to Bogotá instead of going to the embassy in Cali. I picked the cutest one and invited her back for the night.

She asked for $80- but with the stipulation that I take her to the embassy of Holland in the morning. We had a wonderful night. She was a routard type girl. Teenage looking, tall pretty, and no children. We spent a few hours playing in the bed; I was exhausted from my afternoon workout.

In the morning at 8am we arrived at the embassy of Holland she met her 3 friends and they went inside after waiting a while. Guess what I was surrounded by what appeared to be about 20 working girls. This embassy issues visas for Aruba, Curacao, Bonaire, and St Maarten and of course Holland. There were about 30 women and 3 men. There are two appointment times 8:30 and 9:30 each day. People arrive very early for their appointments. I was not allowed in without an appointment. I sat around and eyed the comings and goings. My chica came out and wanted more, I said I was sorry but I have an appointment. I walked down the street as they left, then I returned. I sat around for a while. I saw a chica that I liked arrive at about 9:15 am. I smiled at her, she smiled back. We talked. I asked where she was going. She said vacation, 90 days in Curacao. Incidentally tourist visas are issued for only 30 days. I asked her if she would like to have a drink around the corner at my hotel. She said yes. When she deposited her papers we had our drink. She is now sleeping in my bed. ELDORADO!!! The golden city is at the embassy of Holland on calle 93. I will stake this out again tomorrow. Incidentally she said this is her first trip out of the country, I saw her passport. Nothing like VERY VERY fresh pussi. I guess I will have her stay the night as she is also very cute, fresh , and knows how to shake her bootie.

PS> for those who know me my girlfriend thinks I am away in Medallin on business. So tomorrow after morning sex (new from the embassy if possible) I will pack up and go to the airport ahead of my novia (girlfriend) and meet the airplane arriving from Medallin and make like I just arrived—what a scoundrel!

Mel

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[QUOTE=Routard]Hope she hasn't been send by C. to chek out how devoted you are to her ;)

Have fun during those few days of freedom. What has been your hunting ground where you met your victims?[/QUOTE]And novia is crazy to send such a beautful women that no one could turn down. Or maybe it is just mel's lucky day we all get one ever now and then.

The Holland embassy. What a brilliant place to hang out. I love the vacation story. I once met a Colombian working girl in Panama. She told me she had worked on Aruba, Curacao and St. Martin as a WAITRESS! She claimed her trip to Panama was the first time she was doing the prepago thing. I saw that was clearly evident when she used the handi wipe before the BBBJ. It is good that the girls think we are naive at first.

Mel, AMAZING!!!!!

You did it! You found ELDORADO, it's not a myth anymore, it really exists! Drinking right from the source, before the water get's polluted! How stupid I was not finding this during my week in Bogota. I have to go back!!!

How much does TLN typically go for? What's the range and the average? Thanks guys. Cant wait to go after reading all of Mel's posts!!!

[QUOTE=Mel365]I was surrounded by what appeared to be about 20 working girls. This embassy issues visas for Aruba, Curacao, Bonaire, and St Maarten and of course Holland. There were about 30 women[/QUOTE]And this scene must go on continuously, since there are always new girls arriving at the island brothels. This information of course should be at the top of the Bogota lists!

-zing

Hello everyone,

Henri John here. This is my first report and I'm writing it to find a chica. I had this beautiful spinner this past December in Aruba. But I know she's from Colombia. I don't have any of her info but her name, Diana Merchan Lopez. She's very petite, long black hair, beautiful eyes and very light skin. I think she's worth seeing again and I would like to find her and have her again. Please contact me and let me know where I have to go to have her again. I think I might be hooked! Thanks again, Henri John. I realize I might sound like a loser but no one says she has to be my last!

My thinking is if you go to Colombia you will forget about her. There are just so many hotties in Colombia. Typically the chicas that go to Aruba, Panama, Costa Rica, Curacao, etc. go there for a reason... i.e. the majority of the time they can't compete in Colombia. In Aruba they seem like a dream as Colombianas are special, but in Colombia... they weren't all that.

Also many casa chicas get very hardened in Colombia and hear so many stories about how much these gals that are a 6 in the looks department make and they find a way to get there. Many times it's through an intermediary that rounds up chicas, offers to get them their visa, pay their way, and sells them to a brothel in another country... and they are stuck until they pay off their debt... which unfortunately could be never.


Though there are certainly excpetions, for the most part though, if you were to ask anyone that really truly has spent a lot of time in Colombia, they will most likely all say the same... The Colombianas working in Panama, Costa Rica, Aruba, Curacao etc are not even worth the time for one reason or another.



[QUOTE=Henri John]Hello everyone,

Henri John here. This is my first report and I'm writing it to find a chica. I had this beautiful spinner this past December in Aruba. But I know she's from Colombia. I don't have any of her info but her name, Diana Merchan Lopez. She's very petite, long black hair, beautiful eyes and very light skin. I think she's worth seeing again and I would like to find her and have her again. Please contact me and let me know where I have to go to have her again. I think I might be hooked! Thanks again, Henri John. I realize I might sound like a loser but no one says she has to be my last![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mel365] PS> for those who know me my girlfriend thinks I am away in Medallin on business. So tomorrow after morning sex (new from the embassy if possible) I will pack up and go to the airport ahead of my novia (girlfriend) and meet the airplane arriving from Medallin and make like I just arrived—what a scoundrel!
Mel.[/QUOTE] I did once exactly that. I cheated on my Brazilian girlfriend, which was a high powered executive businesswoman at the time. She had sent her chauffeur to wait for me at the arrival gate. When I arrived quite early ... he was already in the crowd, waiting for me. As a chauffeur/bodyguard, former policeman, he immediately understood that I had lied on my flight schedule and reported this to my girlfriend. I had then one of the most terrible jealousy screaming scenes you can imagine. We split shortly after that ... Ah! I am still in love with her though ...
Regards. Bimbo Boy.

[QUOTE=Bimbo Boy]I did once exactly that. I cheated on my Brazilian girlfriend, which was a high powered executive businesswoman at the time. She had sent her chauffeur to wait for me at the arrival gate. When I arrived quite early ... he was already in the crowd, waiting for me. As a chauffeur/bodyguard, former policeman, he immediately understood that I had lied on my flight schedule and reported this to my girlfriend. I had then one of the most terrible jealousy screaming scenes you can imagine. We split shortly after that ... Ah! I am still in love with her though ...
Regards. Bimbo Boy.[/QUOTE]

You definitely could have told him you caught an earlier flight at the spur of the moment because your business was done early. Deny, Deny, Deny!!!! That's the key to a happy and successful relationship. :)

[QUOTE=Winner71] Many times it's through an intermediary that rounds up chicas, offers to get them their visa, pay their way, and sells them to a brothel in another country... and they are stuck until they pay off their debt... which unfortunately could be never.[/QUOTE]

I agree 100% that Henry John just will forget about her once in Colombia. I just want to correct a few things about the Colombianas going abroad.

Here is how it goes. The Dutch islands (Aruba, Bonaire, Curaçao and Saint Maarten) have legal brothels. Restriction is that chicas can stay only for 90 days a year with working visa issued at Dutch embassy. For this they need to sign a 90 days working contract with one of these brothels. The intermediary between the Caribbean brothels and the chicas is Noralba, a woman in Bogota. Chicas need to send pictures and description which are send to the brothels. Some can't afford to be picky, but the best brothels (Seamen and Carolona in Saint Maarten) select on look. If the chica is selected in one of the brothels, Noralba makes up the contract. However, neither the brothels or Noralba will enslave the chica in debt. The chica has to pay by herself for air-ticket and visa. Chica usually gets money from family as most of the earned money will be to help family too. Pimps are seldom as chicas don't need protection in this legal scene, and what could a pimp do anyway from a distance? Once in the brothel, chica needs to pay daily for her room and food in the brothel, depending the brothel but about 40-50$ a day. All the money she gets from the customer is for her, basically 30-40$ for each session depending which island. She has to respect all kind of regulations like being in the club during opening time, attending weekly medical check and making strip dance, else she needs to pay a multa. Typical earnings after 90 days of hard work and after paying all debts is 5000-10 000$. Most chicas start with the closest island (Aruba, Curaçao), but Saint Maarten is considered the best in earnings. Panama is another story, Noralba can send chicas also there but as there is no visa issue, chicas after a first trip go on their own. They also don't need a contract and can work as freelance in the clubs in Panama. Panama is less a paper hassle for chicas but is considered being less in term of earnings. Chicas who have ended up in Trinidad simply didn't know better. There are new destinations starting too like Hong Kong. Spain is also a major destination, but with a serious visa issue.

As a customer I have an excellent opinion about the Colombianas abroad, except Trinidad (check my report in the Trinidad tread). Best is Saint Maarten as there is a selection on look, but pricing is higher too. I can't say that the pro scene in Colombia is better. I found the Santa Fe scene in Bogota low level and only the better clubs in the Northern areas of Bogota like Zhivago were on the level of Carolina or Seamens from Saint Maarten. Lot's of chicas go abroad to be far from relatives and would not do this job at home. Chicas abroad seem to be new in the business, are alone, home sick and much more open to GFE if you have the right attitude. My opinion was that the chicas working in Colombia looked more hardened pros, working with safety issues, being more easily pimped and so on.

But then again, why going for pros in Colombia as you can get much better for free? Having visited more than 50 countries around the world, I can say that Colombia simply has the best amateur scene and the best looking women in the world.

[QUOTE=Mel365]

PS> for those who know me my girlfriend thinks I am away in Medallin on business. So tomorrow after morning sex (new from the embassy if possible) I will pack up and go to the airport ahead of my novia (girlfriend) and meet the airplane arriving from Medallin and make like I just arrived—what a scoundrel!\[/QUOTE]

You can even print out an itinerary from that airline or cheap tickes or whatever and pretend that was your electronic ticket for additional back-up, thats what I do. he he

[QUOTE=Routard]I Panama is another story, Noralba can send chicas also there but as there is no visa issue, chicas after a first trip go on their own. They also don't need a contract and can work as freelance in the clubs in Panama. Panama is less a paper hassle for chicas but is considered being less in term of earnings.

.[/QUOTE]
Just to clarify the status of Colombianas in Panama. The girls entering with no visa now only have 30 days. These girls almost all work as independents. The girls working in the major clubs, Le Palace, Elite, Miami, etc. actually do have contracts and are recruited through someone in Bogota. I am not sure if it is Noralba or not. They arrive with a limited time contract and a "special worker" type visa that matches the length of the contract. They also have a return ticket in hand as well, which is a requirement. If the girls do not leave at the end of their contract, they are in the country illegally and risk deportation if found. That is not to say this does not happen, but it does change their status. Also, the clubs have a fixed number of slots for girls on work visas. There was recently a big issue with Club Midnight where all the Colombianas were rounded up and deported for violating this issue.

My first novia in Panama was a girl from Pereira who worked at Life Girls. I was with her at the end of her contract as she was returning home. I went around with her as she went through the process of leaving. It was a bureaucratic nightmare with every stop asking for some small payment to process the paperwork. Not that they were trying to get her to stay, but they were extracting the last pound of flesh.

Henri John - Forget about the girl you met. Listen to the other guys on the board. The girls in Colombia who have never worked abroad will be much better than what you have experienced.

$40-50/day for room and board and it's $40/pop?? Throw in beauty parlour to have hair and nails done everyday and the way these gals like to buy clothes etc and it takes 3 fucks a day just to break even. I really don't know the Medellin p4p scene that well... ie. I don't really personally know the ins and outs with the gals. However, I did know a lot about the ins and outs of CArtagena and Santa MArta casas at one time... some of these gals go a few days without a pop... and then of course the good ones get a few a day. But 3, everyday just to break even in the Dutch Islands? Kind of sounds like a miserable life.


[QUOTE=Routard]I agree 100% that Henry John just will forget about her once in Colombia. I just want to correct a few things about the Colombianas going abroad.

Here is how it goes. The Dutch islands (Aruba, Bonaire, Curaçao and Saint Maarten) have legal brothels. Restriction is that chicas can stay only for 90 days a year with working visa issued at Dutch embassy. For this they need to sign a 90 days working contract with one of these brothels. The intermediary between the Caribbean brothels and the chicas is Noralba, a woman in Bogota. Chicas need to send pictures and description which are send to the brothels. Some can't afford to be picky, but the best brothels (Seamen and Carolona in Saint Maarten) select on look. If the chica is selected in one of the brothels, Noralba makes up the contract. However, neither the brothels or Noralba will enslave the chica in debt. The chica has to pay by herself for air-ticket and visa. Chica usually gets money from family as most of the earned money will be to help family too. Pimps are seldom as chicas don't need protection in this legal scene, and what could a pimp do anyway from a distance? Once in the brothel, chica needs to pay daily for her room and food in the brothel, depending the brothel but about 40-50$ a day. All the money she gets from the customer is for her, basically 30-40$ for each session depending which island. She has to respect all kind of regulations like being in the club during opening time, attending weekly medical check and making strip dance, else she needs to pay a multa. Typical earnings after 90 days of hard work and after paying all debts is 5000-10 000$. Most chicas start with the closest island (Aruba, Curaçao), but Saint Maarten is considered the best in earnings. Panama is another story, Noralba can send chicas also there but as there is no visa issue, chicas after a first trip go on their own. They also don't need a contract and can work as freelance in the clubs in Panama. Panama is less a paper hassle for chicas but is considered being less in term of earnings. Chicas who have ended up in Trinidad simply didn't know better. There are new destinations starting too like Hong Kong. Spain is also a major destination, but with a serious visa issue.

As a customer I have an excellent opinion about the Colombianas abroad, except Trinidad (check my report in the Trinidad tread). Best is Saint Maarten as there is a selection on look, but pricing is higher too. I can't say that the pro scene in Colombia is better. I found the Santa Fe scene in Bogota low level and only the better clubs in the Northern areas of Bogota like Zhivago were on the level of Carolina or Seamens from Saint Maarten. Lot's of chicas go abroad to be far from relatives and would not do this job at home. Chicas abroad seem to be new in the business, are alone, home sick and much more open to GFE if you have the right attitude. My opinion was that the chicas working in Colombia looked more hardened pros, working with safety issues, being more easily pimped and so on.

But then again, why going for pros in Colombia as you can get much better for free? Having visited more than 50 countries around the world, I can say that Colombia simply has the best amateur scene and the best looking women in the world.[/QUOTE]

I know gals who have been recruited over and over to go to Panama or Curacao. The main reason these gals refuse to do it is because they all know someone who has 1) gone and either never returned and never heard from again or 2) been unable to leave for years because their debt was not paid off. I've heard stories straight from gals mouths that they were slaves and not given a penny, some not even allowed to leave the casa because the owner knew they would never return. I heard these stories firsthand from gals that worked in Santa Marta... granted it was 3-4 years ago... and of course, a lot of these gals lie for whatever reason... attention, sympathy etc. But, this whole rosy picture about gals actually having an opportunity to make money... actually that's always what they are told, is probably a glass that is half full. I.e. Obviously some gals must make money and come back with money or no one would go do it. Actually some would just to get out of Colombia. However, I have never heard of a story where a Colombiana actually left Colombia and 1) sent cash back to her family or 2) actually came back to Colombia with any cash. Again, I know very little about the subject as I was better versed on the subject 3 years ago and it wasn't this whole go to consulate and get a Visa and contracts etc. It was, somehow Visas were being given under the table , gals were being shipped off once they agreed, and they were basically signing their life away until they paid the debt for airfare, visa, and the price the casa owner paid the recruiter (a few thousand dollars), etc. Then when they get there, there's interest, room, board expenses etc. This was the stories I heard. Gals being told they owe in upwards of $10k... something they could never make in a year or two... mainly because as someone pointed out... stupid little multas.. ie. if you aren't dressed and ready to go by 7pm.. it's a multa larger than the amount she would make that evening anyways.

Sounds like the process has become legalized. What I heard more about falls along the lines of prostitute trafficking.

[QUOTE=Regulr Travlr]Just to clarify the status of Colombianas in Panama. The girls entering with no visa now only have 30 days. These girls almost all work as independents. The girls working in the major clubs, Le Palace, Elite, Miami, etc. actually do have contracts and are recruited through someone in Bogota. I am not sure if it is Noralba or not. They arrive with a limited time contract and a "special worker" type visa that matches the length of the contract. They also have a return ticket in hand as well, which is a requirement. If the girls do not leave at the end of their contract, they are in the country illegally and risk deportation if found. That is not to say this does not happen, but it does change their status. Also, the clubs have a fixed number of slots for girls on work visas. There was recently a big issue with Club Midnight where all the Colombianas were rounded up and deported for violating this issue.

My first novia in Panama was a girl from Pereira who worked at Life Girls. I was with her at the end of her contract as she was returning home. I went around with her as she went through the process of leaving. It was a bureaucratic nightmare with every stop asking for some small payment to process the paperwork. Not that they were trying to get her to stay, but they were extracting the last pound of flesh.

Henri John - Forget about the girl you met. Listen to the other guys on the board. The girls in Colombia who have never worked abroad will be much better than what you have experienced.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Winner71] The main reason these gals refuse to do it is because they all know someone who has 1) gone and either never returned and never heard from again or 2) been unable to leave for years because their debt was not paid off. I've heard stories straight from gals mouths that they were slaves and not given a penny, some not even allowed to leave the casa because the owner knew they would never return. [/QUOTE]

These are urban legends. Not in the Dutch Caribbean, the system is fully legal and controlled by authorities. All girls return home safe and with their well earned money.

Having said this, they have to work hard for this, few sleep, doing lot's of hours everyday, no free day during 90 days and doing an average of 5-6 customers a day.

Curacao is the best seal for the ladies. Unlike the other islands each woman is an individual entreprenur. She can set her own work hours, work as much as she wants or not at all. The only requirements are that she is in Campo from 6:00p to 6:00a., she has her weekly checkup, and she pays her room rent.

There is no sharing of rooms, except if on occasion Campo is overbooked, and there is not requirement to have the client buy drinks.

There is no slavery involved, but the women have to be serious about work if they are to show a substantial profit. They do make enough money to pay their bills while in Campo and to take home with them when they leave.

I personally know ladies who have bought houses in nice communities from their earnings.

As Zing has said time and time again if you treat the ladies right you will get back much in return.If you have a rental car, offer to take them to the beach, or to Punda. They really appreciate this especially if you treat it as a date with a non pro. Dont act as if you can touch and feel just because you are doing a favor.

You might be surprised at the reaction you might get.

I tend to favor the more mature women, and the feedback I have is that for many St. Maarten although lucrative is a horrible place to work when compared to Curacao. Aruba comes in second.

Willie

A nice thing happened while I was in Bogota.

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I decided to stay another week with my novia. Since I now have a visa and a cedula I can stay as long as I like.. She is killing me. I am a shadow of my former self. Every time I turn in bed she thinks I am awake and starts again. Talk about multiple orgasms how about 10 or 12 in a row over a period of 20 minutes. She exhausts me. I think it has something to do with the thin air, but she starts first thing in the morning and continues all day and night. She has long thin legs and incredible abdominal muscles and muscles in her pussy. With the leverage and an incredible motion I would rate her a 10 in bed .She just walked over and stuck her beautiful tits in my face 38 (c-d) and asked if I liked her outfit for tomorrow. We are going to a swimming pool and gymnasium with her and her family. Should be a fun day. I can't wait to see her working out on the machines in the gym, and the guys ogling her.
Now she is biting on my neck---time to go.

Mel

Will be in Bogota this Saturday for about a week. I've got mostly non-pro action lined up, but if someone's interested in teaming up for safety reasons to check out the evening action in Sante Fe, I might go for that. Have heard/read too many scary stories about this city, so I seriously doubt I'll do any solo exploration in the nighttime, unless it's one of the well known "upscale" places.

[QUOTE=Phunluv]Will be in Bogota this Saturday for about a week. I've got mostly non-pro action lined up, but if someone's interested in teaming up for safety reasons to check out the evening action in Sante Fe, I might go for that. Have heard/read too many scary stories about this city, so I seriously doubt I'll do any solo exploration in the nighttime, unless it's one of the well known "upscale" places.[/QUOTE]Don't worry, Bogota is safe. I am currently here on vacation from the US. I started in Cartagena and I am now in Bogota. Total time here is Colombia will be one week. There is alot of exagerated information on the web and travel books on how dangerous it is out here. Ignore all the BS. This is a very safe city and country. There is alot of police presence out here. You are going to love it out here.

Anyone know whether or not there is a bus that goes from the Airport to "downtown" Bogota? And where to catch it, the fees involved, etc?

[QUOTE=Monger#77]Anyone know whether or not there is a bus that goes from the Airport to "downtown" Bogota? And where to catch it, the fees involved, etc?[/QUOTE]
Yep, you walk out front of the airport terminal, cross the two first lanes where taxis are waiting. After you've crossed, set back a little you'll see the last of these parallel lanes. Look at the left hand side (the direction traffic is entering from). You'll see a small bus stand and buses passing regularly, destined for all parts of the city.

For the historical centre you want the bus "Germania" which costs about 1100 pesos. Tell the bus guy you want to get off close to Centro. It will let you out at around 7th and cll 20. This is not a great area, you should immediately transfer into a taxi, keeping a close eye on your bags. For Zona Rosa there is another bus I'm sure, don't know exactly which one.

[QUOTE=Cachorro]Yep, you walk out front of the airport terminal, cross the two first lanes where taxis are waiting. After you've crossed, set back a little you'll see the last of these parallel lanes. Look at the left hand side (the direction traffic is entering from). You'll see a small bus stand and buses passing regularly, destined for all parts of the city.

For the historical centre you want the bus "Germania" which costs about 1100 pesos. Tell the bus guy you want to get off close to Centro. It will let you out at around 7th and cll 20. This is not a great area, you should immediately transfer into a taxi, keeping a close eye on your bags. For Zona Rosa there is another bus I'm sure, don't know exactly which one.[/QUOTE]

Thank you, Cachorro.

"This is not a great area, you should immediately transfer into a taxi, keeping a close eye on your bags."

Why is it not a good idea? Theft of my bags or robbery? I plan on traveling with a single backpack. One bag, strapped to my back.

Would that be safer?

Taxis are cheap.

From the airportr to calle 100 which is north of the zona rosa is only $7. 00 US. Why screw around with busses. Just make sure the taxi has a meter and a rate card that you can see.

Mel

[QUOTE=Pico1972]Don't worry, Bogota is safe. I am currently here on vacation from the US. I started in Cartagena and I am now in Bogota. Total time here is Colombia will be one week. There is alot of exagerated information on the web and travel books on how dangerous it is out here. Ignore all the BS. This is a very safe city and country. There is alot of police presence out here. You are going to love it out here.[/QUOTE]


Yes you'll love it!

Don't be a dummy though. It can be safe enough, but always keep up your guard.

The experienced guy knows that it's when you let your guard down, trouble finds you.

Have fun!

[QUOTE=Monger#77]Thank you, Cachorro.

"This is not a great area, you should immediately transfer into a taxi, keeping a close eye on your bags."

Why is it not a good idea? Theft of my bags or robbery? I plan on traveling with a single backpack. One bag, strapped to my back.

Would that be safer?[/QUOTE]
Just a reminder to pay attention to what's happening around you.

I've done that bus trip from the airport a couple times. I feel OK but the other people on the bus give me warnings when they see me getting off there with my bags (usually later at night in my previous trips). As a foreign looking guy walking around with luggage, you stand out as a possible target.

That section of town has pickpockets working and the occasional mugging. While I would never walk 20 blocks with my luggage in that part of Bogota, I am comfortable standing there a few seconds and then jumping into a taxi.

I wouldn't recommend Barrio Sante Fe at night by yourself for the uninitiated. Too easy a target.

Bogota has plenty of security (police/military) around, but that doesn't translate exactly into safety. Keep your guard up at all times for pickpokets, and petty criminals, at the least. Be vigilant with taxis. You should be fine solo in Zona Rosa and Parque 93. Venturing down to Chapinero and/or Sante Fe at night, all bets are off, security or not.

[QUOTE=Phunluv]Will be in Bogota this Saturday for about a week. I've got mostly non-pro action lined up, but if someone's interested in teaming up for safety reasons to check out the evening action in Sante Fe, I might go for that. Have heard/read too many scary stories about this city, so I seriously doubt I'll do any solo exploration in the nighttime, unless it's one of the well known "upscale" places.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Monger#77]I plan on traveling with a single backpack. One bag, strapped to my back.

Would that be safer?[/QUOTE]

No, bad idea, there is no easier way to spot a tourist as a backpack, take a regular discrete bag instead. Never walk around with luggage, you are an easy target. The rule is as soon as you arrive in a city, jump into the first taxi to bring you at a safe hotel and leave everything in it, especially your valuable in a safetybox. After, you dress as anyone else in the street without anything else in your pocket than cash money and photocopy of passport.

I dunno if I'd describe Bogota as 'safe' ... there are more dangerous cities on Earth, and by far, but you still have to watch your back there.

The ZR and the 93 have MORE robberies than Santa Fe, or just about any other neighborhood in the city.

[url]http://www.laneros.com/showthread.php?t=95559[/url] if you can read Spanish..

PLEASE don't give out misinformation on this site by going off half-cocked.

The best rate I found in this city is $1950 Colombianos for $1 US. I found this rate at the hotel I stayed at - la Boehme in the Zona Rosa. It is in front of the Andino Plaza. I am not sure if they will exchange money with non-hotel guests. Take your passport just in case they ask for ID. The exchange rate in Cartagena was $1600 CO/$1 US.

I just got back. Bogota was great!!

A long time ago I used to live in a decent residence near Calle 37, Carrera 15. I'm curious as to the character of the area now?

Regards,

It's mostly Estrato 4, back in the 60s? 70s? or before it used to be 6 and very frou-frou. Now it's much more bohemian. Great restaurants, the houses are still beautiful, it's REASONABLY safe.

When I first decided I was going to move to BOG I wanted to live in that area, there or Galerias. But my gf wasn't wild about it, and I decided on my own as well that I just didn't want another house or old apartment with shit always breaking, not to mention buying pre-construction is SUCH a good deal down there with prices going up and up.

[QUOTE=Ironicwry]I read in a couple of pages here about a high end club called Lorimai in Bogota. Does anyone know its exact name or address. Would be much appreciated.

Thanks,

Jerry[/QUOTE]It's actually "La Forty-Nine" although Colombians of course mangle their english so it sounds like "lorinai". For some reason, using english words for clubs, bars, and other stores has become very common in Colombia, especially Bogota.

As you can probably guess from the name, it's on Calle 49 and Carrera 13. This is a MUST in your Bog itinerary, I even had a nice chicken soup at 4 in the morning and I really felt like the people who work here were looking out for me, although you are expected to tip even the cleaning lady who prepares the room, so bring some small bills as well. If you need to take some money out of an ATM, club security will accompany you but you'll have to tip them as well. However, you can even pay by credit card although the girls of course, prefer cash.

The rooms were okay, but I didn't like the fact there was only one small towel for me and the girl, no toilet paper, no hot water. Still, you should check it out at least once if only to admire the eye candy, of which there is plenty.

One last warning: Cra 13 is dangerous after dark (actually you can say that of most of Bog) so be sure to take a taxi right to the door and leave the same way. And calling for one is safer than hailing one down. You can ask security at the club to get you a "taxista de confianza" (a driver you can trust).

There are two clubs right next to each other. It's worth taking a minute to read my post that I wrote last time around about how to tell them apart.

[QUOTE=Bango Cheito]It's mostly Estrato 4, back in the 60s? 70s? or before it used to be 6 and very frou-frou. Now it's much more bohemian. Great restaurants, the houses are still beautiful, it's REASONABLY safe. [/QUOTE]

Interesting -it had already started to decline circa 1970. Rojas Pinilla (ex-dictator) lived just around the corner. El Campo was on the edge of town and more upmarket.

Thanks

Phun, good advice, I haven't been there yet but I'll make a point of going someday. Next time the gf and I go out it will be to a bona fide swingers club though :P, maybe the time after that. And yes that area is definitely really high in robberies, you have to be extra careful there.

Dust, I heard they had that famous murder of a famous journalist there some years back, after that, they put the law where all the people on motorcycles had to wear those faggy vests with their license plate #'s on them.

Where is the best place to exchange us dollars for pesos?

Thanks

Mel

This question keeps cropping up for some reason.

Davivienda ATMs are the best. Any other ATM is acceptable, but the withdrawal limits are lower and the fees are gonna be the same. Any other way you'll get ripped off.

[QUOTE=Mel365]Where is the best place to exchange us dollars for pesos?

Thanks

Mel[/QUOTE]

Go to a CITIBANK ATM... NO FEES AND NO HIDDEN CHARGES! AND THE BEST RATES 100%

Dear gents, thanks for the great work on this thread! Here are my special questions:

1. Is SALTO DE ANGEL (restaurant in the Parque 93 area) and SALTO CON ANGEL (allegedly the best night club in town, Northwest of Parque 93) the one and the same establishment?

2. Give some tips, especially homepage addresses concerning long term apartment renting in BOG, please!
The rates at [url]www.viaggio.com.co[/url] seem to be somewhat steep.

3. Who provides the best Spanish language courses? Don't laugh at this question, I know, I'm talking about serious linguistic skills! [url]www.lonelyplanet.com[/url] suggests among others Javeriana University.

Appreciate your contribution, thank you!

That stuff is kinda OT for this forum. Go to [url]www.colombianblog.com[/url] or [url]www.poorbuthappy.com[/url] and search there, it was JUST discussed on there not two weeks ago.

I've read this forum for a while, and enjoyed the spectacular women of Bogotá on a couple of occasions, but this is my first time posting.

Based on a couple of favorable reviews in this thread, I went last night to Bar Zhivago (Juan Pablo Karaoke), located at Carrera 18 # 93A-83. I arrived walking, and had a bit of trouble finding the place (no signs identify the business). It's on the south-west corner of the intersection of Cr 19 and Calle 93A.

On entering (no cover) I was pleasantly surprised to find 20 or so young women milling about. I started with a beer at the bar, and got caught in a conversation with a dark haired girl from Medellin. She wasn't my type, but it took me a while to find the heart to send her away. Once free, I milled around a bit and talked to a number of girls. The one that I had identified as the most attractive turned out to have zero personality. Something told me that she'd be mechanical in bed. I concur with other reports that point out that the girls here seem much closer to semi-pros than the more-or-less hardened hookers that I've seen at places on Calle 86. Most claimed to be students. None were from Bogotá.

Eventually I found a girl who delighted both my eyes and brain, and we retired to one of the club's on-site rooms (I'm here w/ co-workers and not keen on running into one while I'm escorting a chica home). The room was fairly funky: no bathroom; no proper bed, just couches pushed together; a bit cold. These details fell away as the lovely sandra stripped. What a body! Gorgeous, large breasts, a tight slim belly, that only-in-Colombia ass. She started with a fantastic BBBJ, followed by a fantastic session in a delightful variety of positions. She was enthusiastic and game to try everything that I suggested. After I came we rested for a while. She asked for a massage, which I was very happy to give, especially when she produced baby oil. Our second round was even hotter than the first. She finished me with a spectacular BBBJ, with me finishing in her mouth. I had meetings at 8 am the next day so we called it a night. As we were dressing she asked if she could sleep at my place. I said no, but got her number. If I wasn't endlessly fascinated by the search for new chicas I'd definitely give her a call. I'm happy to share her info with members of this list. She claimed that it was only her 3rd night working at Bar Zhivago.

Any suggestions for tonight?

Prices:

Beers: 12k
Salida: 80k
Room: 80k (pay the salida to take the girl home; pay the room to be with her on site. Don't pay both!)
Chica: she decides. I paid 250k.

One final note: google maps now covers Bogota: [url]http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&msid=103631805846222867561.00043a6b5c144f76c06f3[/url]

They don't seem to find addresses automatically, but it's still a good way to figure out where things are.

I was thinking about what some of you have said about forgetting about Diana. (a chica I'm looking for)All good advice and some valid points but I'm still interested in finding her so my search continues. I asked around the bar where I had her and I got an email address from someone else! Big score. I think I also should mention that she's not my first chica, I've had Diana before about 8 years ago in Bogota when she first started out. So to my surprise when I saw her again last December. Anyway, she email me back and heres where it gets bad. She says she's just had a child and she actually thinks it's mine! I really don't want to get into all the details about this but I have to go to Bogota now to see for myself to see if she's telling the truth and if she is then I have to take a paternity test to verify. Has anyone been in this situation? I'm planning on leaving tomorrow to go meet her and I have a dna testing kit with me.

Great! Bogota is on high resolution on Google Earth!

[QUOTE=Henri John]Has anyone been in this situation? I'm planning on leaving tomorrow to go meet her and I have a dna testing kit with me.[/QUOTE]

Henri John,

Yes, others have been in this situation and other will be. It's easier to get a girl pregnant than to get AIDS actually from bareback.

What you should know is that whatever the decision you take, it is now, not after the result of the DNA test. If you start to do this, believe me, there is no way out anymore. Do you realize what's next? Do you really want a hooker being the mother of your child? Do you really want to marry, build up a family and raise kids with a hooker? Where? In Colombia or in your homecountry? Or do you want to send all your life money to a hooker to take care of your child at a distance? Or do you think you can just live on with the idea that somewhere in a thirdworld country you have a child that is struggling with an unfair life? Are you emotionaly prepared to face one of those options?

I can't give you the answers to all these questions, it's up to you. So, unless you have already the correct answers to the previous questions, my advice is not to go to meet her with your DNA test and forget about it. You won't be able to do turn your back once you have the result of the test.

I am flying into Bogotá’s Aero Puerto Internacional El Dorado on American Flight #913 from Miami. I need to meet up with a friend to catch a Avianca flight. Would someone please verify if American Airlines uses the Puente Aereo Terminal as opposed to the older El Dorado Terminal.

Thank you

Getting into Colombia is easy. Getting out of Colombia leaving a Child behind and no legal arrangements might be impossible. If you are American you will find that the colombian system of justice is very slow and cumbersome. You could possibly be denied leaving the country until the legal issues of your "child " is resolved. I would avoid this situation unless matrimony or living together is in your plans.

Mel

Liathain,

I believe in checking American Airlines that they do use the older airport terminal El Dorado.

Liathain,

As I recall, all international flights use El Dorado as well as all, non-Avianca, domestic flights. The other airport is only Avianca domestic.

[QUOTE=Liathain]I am flying into Bogotá’s Aero Puerto Internacional El Dorado on American Flight #913 from Miami. I need to meet up with a friend to catch a Avianca flight. Would someone please verify if American Airlines uses the Puente Aereo Terminal as opposed to the older El Dorado Terminal.

Thank you[/QUOTE]

American Airlines only flies into/out of El Dorado.

All Avianca international flights are out of/into El Dorado.

All Avianca domestic Colombia flights are out of Puente Aereo.

Thanks for all your suggestions about this dna testing thing. I went to Colombia and came back home already and then I found out yesterday that I AM the father of a little girl. I never really thought that this would happen to me. I knew it is a possiblity but, come on now! I'm not interested in being in a relationship with the mother but I want to provide for this child as she had no fault in this situation. My girlfriend knows about this now and she's the one that convienced me to do "the right thing". I fully agree with my gf. This is such a surreal situation but I can't handle the thought of this child not having all the things I grew up with. I'm an idiot for getting myself here and I just want to do the right thing now. BTW does anyone know a driver (for the entire day)that can drive me around Colombia when I go back there?

Also ,I forgot to mention. I WASNT barebacking. I even asked her if she was taking the pill and she said yes. Turns out she probably really wasn't taking the pill and i have a feeling she took the condom after i left the room and shoved all contents of the rubber where she shouldn't have. makes no difference now.I open myself to it and i realize that now.

[QUOTE=Henri John]Thanks for all your suggestions about this dna testing thing. I went to Colombia and came back home already and then I found out yesterday that I AM the father of a little girl. I never really thought that this would happen to me. I knew it is a possiblity but, come on now! I'm not interested in being in a relationship with the mother but I want to provide for this child as she had no fault in this situation. My girlfriend knows about this now and she's the one that convinced me to do "the right thing". I fully agree with my gf. This is such a surreal situation but I can't handle the thought of this child not having all the things I grew up with. I'm an idiot for getting myself here and I just want to do the right thing now. BTW does anyone know a driver (for the entire day)that can drive me around Colombia when I go back there?[/QUOTE]Before everyone else starts attacking you let me just say congratulations! :)

I don't think you're an idiot, but what happened to you is unfortunately far too common. We're all human, and sometimes the little head gets the better of us.

I think you're doing the right thing. It is your flesh and blood after all, I'm sure you want to see your kid grow up a little better than the average colombiana. And the cost of living down there is still pretty low so even with today's exchange rates, you don't have to send a fortune every month. As for the mother coming after you to "take you to the cleaners", I'd think it would be very difficult as she's not a U.S. citizen and you don't live in Colombia. Might be a different story if you formally or officially recognize your daughter and try to give her American citizenship though, so check with a good lawyer as always. That might end up being a tricky judgement call depending on what kind of person you think the mother is.

But I'm optimistic for you, I don't think this scenario means the end of your life or financial freedom. :) Fact is, it is VERY common for a colombiana to get knocked up and the father quickly gets out of the picture and never even sends back a peso. The mother of your kid is likely simply content that you want to at least help out financially if you can't be there with your kid. Since you're already a step above most of the local males, I doubt the mother would have much of a case to go after you fishing for more plata, this isn't like the states when it comes to these issues.

One word of advice: you may want to consider now a vasectomy unless you want more rugrats. :)

[QUOTE=Henri John]I AM the father of a little girl.[/QUOTE]
Congratulations! How old is she? She is blessed that you are the father. As I told before, once the test is done, there is no way back anymore, so good luck now. I hope I will never have to get through this experience. But if this has to happen, I just hope one thing, that the mother is a Colombiana. And I am sincere. Your child will have all the love she needs.

And by the way, don't worry about taxidrivers trying to kidnapp you for selling your organs, these are urban legends. Remember, Colombia is your country now.

[QUOTE=Routard]Henri John,

Yes, others have been in this situation and other will be. It's easier to get a girl pregnant than to get AIDS actually from bareback.

What you should know is that whatever the decision you take, it is now, not after the result of the DNA test. If you start to do this, believe me, there is no way out anymore. Do you realize what's next? Do you really want a hooker being the mother of your child? Do you really want to marry, build up a family and raise kids with a hooker? Where? In Colombia or in your homecountry? Or do you want to send all your life money to a hooker to take care of your child at a distance? Or do you think you can just live on with the idea that somewhere in a thirdworld country you have a child that is struggling with an unfair life? Are you emotionaly prepared to face one of those options?

I can't give you the answers to all these questions, it's up to you. So, unless you have already the correct answers to the previous questions, my advice is not to go to meet her with your DNA test and forget about it. You won't be able to do turn your back once you have the result of the test.[/QUOTE]Well said. As for the child indeed being Henri Johns' , there is her culpability factor he should consider when calculating the payout. I have thought of this myself and believe that buying a cheap house and letting the woman stay there for free for 18 years but always keeping title of the house is the best financial and ethical solution.

Enjoy the experiance with your new daughter! Don't listen to some people that will steer you because of their issues or thoughts.

I have read some of the threads on your subject and even though I am not in your shoes I feel for you.

I have had many GFEs and had many proffesionals in Central and South America and have found out that they are much different than any gringas I have dated. I am now married to a Tica and have been for the last 6 years, I have a gringatica as a daughter and would not want to change that in my life.

I was married before to a midwestern gringa for 11 years prior to meeting my current wife and would have to say that I would never give advise to marry a gringa. (even though I have 2 gringa daughters) (this is just my hang up and my experiance)

There is a difference why women in central and south america go to the profession of prostitution compared to the USA First it is money, the women might be teachers but they don't make enough money to feed their children. Since many men in Latin America have balls and are macho, they don't normally take care of their family affairs and treat the women like shit! In the USA It is mostly because the women need the money to pay for the drugs and abuse their children.

I would rather be married to a Columbian prostitute than a gringa any day! What is the difference? With the gringa you get the attitude and you lose your money after the divorce anyways! With the columbian you get a great looking package for the rest of your life!

People talk about what your child will grow up in a third world country and how bad it is! Well they might never have seen trailer home parks in the USA Or seen the hoods in the major cities of the USA I would rather live in Bogata than live in most of the trailer home parks in the midwest!

What ever you choose just make sure you have some kind of relationship with your new child because you will regret it if you don't!

I agree, but for some reason people like to judge others without looking in the mirror first. A real mother will do what she needs to take care of her children. Even if that means fucking some guy they do not know for money.

If it is your child you have been blessed and I know you will do the right thing. Enjoy and congrats again...... Neh

[QUOTE=Ticoyo1965]Enjoy the experiance with your new daughter! Don't listen to some people that will steer you because of their issues or thoughts.

I have read some of the threads on your subject and even though I am not in your shoes I feel for you.

I have had many GFEs and had many proffesionals in Central and South America and have found out that they are much different than any gringas I have dated. I am now married to a Tica and have been for the last 6 years, I have a gringatica as a daughter and would not want to change that in my life.

I was married before to a midwestern gringa for 11 years prior to meeting my current wife and would have to say that I would never give advise to marry a gringa. (even though I have 2 gringa daughters) (this is just my hang up and my experiance)

There is a difference why women in central and south america go to the profession of prostitution compared to the USA First it is money, the women might be teachers but they don't make enough money to feed their children. Since many men in Latin America have balls and are macho, they don't normally take care of their family affairs and treat the women like shit! In the USA It is mostly because the women need the money to pay for the drugs and abuse their children.

I would rather be married to a Columbian prostitute than a gringa any day! What is the difference? With the gringa you get the attitude and you lose your money after the divorce anyways! With the columbian you get a great looking package for the rest of your life!

People talk about what your child will grow up in a third world country and how bad it is! Well they might never have seen trailer home parks in the USA Or seen the hoods in the major cities of the USA I would rather live in Bogata than live in most of the trailer home parks in the midwest!

What ever you choose just make sure you have some kind of relationship with your new child because you will regret it if you don't![/QUOTE]

I guess you impregnated her before Tom Leykis popularized the practice of flushing all used condoms down the toiled and/or carrying some hot sauce with you to kill the sperm.

Don't send too much money. 100k a month for food 100k a month for miscellaneous and when school starts 300k MAX for that should be more than enough.

[QUOTE=Mel365]I decided to stay another week with my novia. Since I now have a visa and a cedula I can stay as long as I like.. She is killing me. I am a shadow of my former self. Every time I turn in bed she thinks I am awake and starts again. Talk about multiple orgasms how about 10 or 12 in a row over a period of 20 minutes. She exhausts me. I think it has something to do with the thin air, but she starts first thing in the morning and continues all day and night. She has long thin legs and incredible abdominal muscles and muscles in her pussy. With the leverage and an incredible motion I would rate her a 10 in bed .She just walked over and stuck her beautiful tits in my face 38 (c-d) and asked if I liked her outfit for tomorrow. We are going to a swimming pool and gymnasium with her and her family. Should be a fun day. I can't wait to see her working out on the machines in the gym, and the guys ogling her.
Now she is biting on my neck---time to go.

Mel[/QUOTE]Hi Mel.

Your story reminds me when I was a young guy meeting his future wife here in Bogota.

She would never left me going out to travel without drying me first!

She remains like that several years and then, oh well, time fades everything away.

I feel glad for you; love is such a powerful thing.

Take care.

[QUOTE=Monger#77]I guess you impregnated her before Tom Leykis popularized the practice of flushing all used condoms down the toiled and/or carrying some hot sauce with you to kill the sperm.[/QUOTE]

The purpose of the hot sauce is to catch her in the act of dumpster diving for your sperm as it will have the same excruciating effect as inserting a fireball into her cooch.

I always make it a point to either flush the spent condom or throw it on the floor so the contents spill out. Do not be naive and let her strategically place it in the bathroom wastebasket so she can recapture your spent load minutes later.

Putas and non-putas alike, many girls are opportunistic. If they think you will likely turn into a long term meal ticket they will go to great lengths insure they receive the payout as Henry John discovered. Sorry to hear about your misfortune and I wish you the best of luck.

After a long break, I visited a favorita at Abado's, and found out they've raised the cost for FS to 70 mil, with the starting level of 45 mil for massage/hj(?). WTF?

Has anybody been to the massage parlors on the mezzanine of cll. 103/K 15, and have they raised their prices correspondingly? I know that one of them even last year had placards listing FS for 70 mil, though I was able to talk it down to the "normal" 60 mil at that time.

The Colombian economy is really booming. The paper just reported another big drop in the unemployment rate.

I have stayed at the Dannn Carleton Hotel on 103 and 15 and have not seen the entrance to th massage parlor.

What does it look like?

Mel

[QUOTE=Novio]The Colombian economy is really booming. The paper just reported another big drop in the unemployment rate.[/QUOTE]Not sure exactly how inflation means the economy is booming. I'm not denying more people are doing okay, but I don't think they feel rich given the inflation over the past couple of years. As for certain economic figures, there's some controversy over them. One prominent Colombian retired from his position over how these numbers are generated and reported.

Just my opinion but I think the inevitable economic downturn is not that far off.

[QUOTE=Mel365]I have stayed at the Dannn Carleton Hotel on 103 and 15 and have not seen the entrance to th massage parlor.

What does it look like?

Mel[/QUOTE]

The massage parlors are across Carrera 15 on the mezzanine level of the shopping center, kitty corner from the Dann Carleton. No. 9 is at the far end on the backside of the mezzanine, but there are others as well.

I did not look across the street.

Thanks,

Mel

[QUOTE=Liathain]I am flying into Bogotá’s Aero Puerto Internacional El Dorado on American Flight #913 from Miami. I need to meet up with a friend to catch a Avianca flight. Would someone please verify if American Airlines uses the Puente Aereo Terminal as opposed to the older El Dorado Terminal.

Thank you[/QUOTE]

After you collect your suitcase do not walk out of the airport , turn to the right and you will see a connections sign. Walk down the corridor and jump on the bus to the National terminal. Free trip and takes 10 minutes.

kk

I am heading to Bogota in a couple of weeks and will be staying in the Parque de la 93 area.

Can anyone how knows about this town give me an overview of fun things to do if I hook up with a GFE, the main clubs, and what the hell of prepago is?

I have read about these prepagos on the Medellin and Barangquilla forums. The whole idea seems intrituing. What separates a prepago from a higher class pro?

Thanks much.

I will be in Bogota October 6 - October 15.

Any mongers available for a meeting?

Mel

[QUOTE=Newbie007]ICan anyone how knows about this town give me an overview of fun things to do if I hook up with a GFE, the main clubs, and what the hell of prepago is?

I have read about these prepagos on the Medellin and Barangquilla forums. The whole idea seems intrituing. What separates a prepago from a higher class pro?

[/QUOTE]

????? :confused:

Prepago just means hooker in Colombian slang, no matter the price range. You can't hook up with a GFE, but you might get GFE from a prepago, which means that she gives sex as if she is your girl friend.

a is only 20, she is one of these colombianas going overseas for three months, working hard in a caribbean brothel in order to help her family. usual story, a poor country girl getting pregnant from a guy that left her alone and helpless. desperate, she has no other choice than trying to call that woman she had heard of offering contracts overseas. she meets her and gets all the information about the job, how it goes and what she needs to do to protect herself. she needs to pay daily 50$ for her room and meals but all earnings are for her. pricing is 40$ for 20minutes with a customer. a would never have considered prostitution in colombia, her father would kill her. but far from her family, why not. she is brave and ready to sacrifice herself for 3 months. she accepts, gets money from her cousin to pay for air-ticket, visa and medical exams.

a ends up alone abroad on a caribbean island, saint martin, an exotic paradise, but she will see few of the outdoor environment. her passports is kept by immigration and she receives a working permit for three months, allowing herself to get around and to send money back home with western union. she is lucky, she is at one of the best brothels the seamen’s club. the boss is not always there, a woman takes care of the thirty girls, all colombianas. she explains her the rules of the house. she must register daily at 11am and 8pm and stay in the bar from 11am till 4pm and from 8pm till 2am. if not, she will be fined 100$, only the doctor can allow her not to work. she must attend the weekly medical check and the doctor is also allowed to forbid her to work if there is any medical problem. meals are served in the kitchen, but girls must eat one by one. rooms are air-conditioned with bathroom, but she must share her bed with another girl. that’s ok, she looks cool. but what matters for her is that she has to sleep in the same bed were both have to work. a is not happy about having all those smelly men sharing her own bed too.

her room mate gives her a few tips. customers start to enter the bar and a is scared. she just looks so young and petite and she is intimidated by these huge scary black guys. her room mate tries to help her with her first customer and introduces her to one of her asian customers. she explains to him that it's her first time and that he has to take care, what he gladly does. a prefers to stay with asians, as they look not so scary. luckily, her teenage look is doing great with asians too. the first days are not too bad, but at night she cries herself in sleep. her mind is with her daughter in colombia.

this happened three years ago, and with the own words how a told me last night. i had never forgotten a, i had met her exactly three years ago, when she just started. she also recognized me at once when she saw me again in this same bar. a was the first pro that i had managed to give an orgasm. what a discovery, i just couldn’t imagine that hookers could get orgams with customers. a had dramatically changed my way of considering hookers, from that moment on i could see the women in the hookers. i had waited all that time to thank her for that. she is proud hearing this from me and admits that i was also the first customer for her to have an orgasm with. she was inexperienced, i had impressed her. in fact we both hadn’t forgotten our first meeting during all those years.

a starts to tell me everything that has happened since and shows me pictures from the ostrich farm she has started up with the money earned in saint martin. she is proud that she has started this business and hpes that it’s her last contract abroad. these pictures from her finca brings me back memories from my last trip in colombia. we have both plenty of things to tell and i guess we both start to believe in destiny. a tells me she doesn’t want to work anymore. she offers me to stay at the bar and leaving together at closing time in order to avoid the 100$ barfine. i’m afraid however to be disappointed, she has changed so much. i remember everything of her, the way she looked at me impressed when i approached her, how she felt embarassed undressing herself, trying to hide her small breast, fearing i would be disappointed, her face of happiness when making love, her surprise when she got her orgasm, trying to prove it by making me feel how wet her pussy was. she admits indeed that she has changed a lot with this job. as a prove, she gives me a few shots of typical puta face but then starts to laugh and looks me with the same eyes as three years ago. it’s clear for me, no need to explain more, she will always be the same girl for me.

but what the hell is this story doing in the bogota thread ? we are in saint martin right ? don’t worry, you will soon understand what we are doing here. a has told me one of the most amazing stories i have ever heard in my monger career. i believed i had found the eldorado in bogota, and i realize now i had missed the best of it, something that goes far beyond my wildest dreams. i tell her about my trip in colombia, the country f the most beautiful women in the world, the country where women smile to you when you smile at them, the country where no woman can give no for an answer, where paying for sex is useless. a smiles, explains to me that there are 6 women for a man, that i am the perfect gentleman for any woman and that there is simply no reason for a colombiana not to go with me.

a admits she can’t trust men anymore due to her job, and that she prefers to live alone. but she still has sexual needs like any other woman, even if she is a hooker. once back in colombia after a couple of weeks without sex, she is again in deep need. but she found a solution. and here it is, she reveals me the best kept secret of bogota. there is actually a brothel for women looking for sex with boys named apollon close to calle 28. a goes to this club once a month when she is in colombia and not working. unbelievable, even a hooker used to be paid for sex, once in colombia has no other choice than paying herself to get sex with men!!!

a explains me everything. it’s an upscale place with 30 boys dressed like village people: cow-boy, indian, cop, fireman and they have a number. women sit at a table and just call a boy by his number. there are several options, a simple strip-tease for about 20$ or going to the room on site for 40$. rule is that the boy don’t need to orgasm. session is 20min or ends when the woman gets her orgasm. the boy puts a special gel on his penis made of amazonian plants in order to get an erection then puts the condom on. during all the session he watches the woman in her eyes to detect any orgasm. a jokes about it as she tells that women try to hide their orgasm to stay longer. but they are so horny in this environment that they can’t resist very long.

can you believe that ? colombianas have such sexual frustrations that they are ready to pay for that. a explains me that if there are no more of such clubs it’s only because most colombianas simply can’t afford to pay. most customers are from the high society of bogota. i now understand why it was so easy to date a girl in colombia and why it’s so easy to get gfe from colombian hookers.

i haven’t finished, the best is here to come. a advices me to work in this club. i’m surprised, as i have not the body anymore of a chippendale dancer. a tells me that on the contrary i would be the most popular boy of the club. not only the more popular boys are the mature ones, but also colombianas love western men. they make a blood test before and they have even rooms to stay. i start to dream. if there is one country in the world where i could do this job, it would be no doubt in colombia, as 90% of women walking around turn me on. i’m a monger, but my most memorable sessions are always when the girls get their orgasm too. giving orgasms everyday to so many women is simply a dream for me. i start to joke with a that it’s a funny idea she going abroad and i going to colombia to prostitute ourselves due to sexual unbalance. i promise her that it will be always free for her and she is glad to know that. i start to ask a about a few tips, especially how she manages the emotional issue when dealing with customers that are turn offs. a is glad to help me with her experience, i have never been so close to a hooker. i always try to get under the hookers’ skin, but i’m now at the point of getting to the other side of the mirror.

the brothel is closing, a asks me to wait for her as she needs to dress herself in a more conservative look before exiting. we exit from the side door, the main door being already closed and we go back to my hotel. we take our shower and enter the bed. a prepares the condom, but it will remain all night long where it is. a clamps herself on my body and smells my skin, eyes closed. i feel as if i found back an old girlfriend, there is such a chemistry. i remember very well how i did the first time and try to do the same. funny, she reacts again on the same way, i’m impressed. a told me she doesn’t kiss, but as soon as i put my lips on her lips, i feel her tongue trying to find a way to get in. we soon kiss passionately, on the same rhythm as my dicks touches her more intimate lips. i feel her pussy getting wet more and more, her hips moving faster and faster. she holds me tight, as if she fears i would go away, stimulating her clitoris with my penis, her legs getting more and more open. a can’t hold it anymore, and i feel her pussy being penetrated more and more. don’t try to moralize me, i know it’s all wrong, i am not trying to promote unsafe sex here. but when a woman wants it so strong, it’s simply impossible to refuse. a is on top, controlling the situation, fearing probably i would try to go back. but she soon turns herself on her back to get me on top and to allow a deeper penetration. her eyes beg me not stop, i feel each of her emotions through her pussy, stronger and stronger. it suddenly becomes very wet and i don’t feel anything anymore. as i had looked her straight into her eyes during all the session, i realized exactly what she meant about how detecting an orgasm in the women’s eyes. she hadn’t make any noise, but i had easily noticed her orgasm. i stop intercourse, even if i haven’t had my own orgasm, and it freaks her out. she seems to believe there was a problem on my side, starts to apologize for having lost control. she explains me that she had lost memory of how good it is having sex without condom, the last time being 5 years ago. she felt so good, she simply couldn’t control herself. she tells me she has just had her blood test for her working permit and that she is safe. but she adds that she would understand very well if i stop everything and bring her back, she shouldn’t have done what she did. she asks me to pie and clean myself up for my safety, forgetting about her own safety. she doesn’t seem to realize i was as guilty as her.

after the shower, i try to calm her down, taking her in my arms. i try to convince her it was simply magical for me. as i haven’t had my orgasm, i soon start to have again an erection and my dick on a natural way tries to find back the entrance of heaven’s door. i feel her legs opening again, her pussy getting wet again and i slip inside again. we stay arms in arms, being inside her without moving. she feels again confident, feeling me inside herself. i watch her face and it’s impressive how beautiful she looks feeling happy an beloved. giving such happiness to a woman is priceless. we both enjoy these moments of happiness but soon don’t hold it anymore, our hips start to move again faster and faster. i feel again her emotions through her pussy, her skin getting red, the muscles of her face contracting themselves. no doubt, she is going to pop again, i have to come fast to join her also. i wonder if i should orgasm outside, but she holds me so tight i have no other choice, i explode inside her. we feel both our hearts bouncing in our chests, but as soon as we are ready, we exit the bed to shower together. we turn off the light and fall asleep in bed, her naked body on mine.

in the morning, she wakes me up as i have a plane to catch. we smile at each other, both embarrassed about what has happened. i thank her for this magical night, but she insists in thanking me. i have to bring her back and we realize the dream is ending, we both go back to our own life. how difficult it must be for her to go from a magical dream back to the brothel’s hell. in the car she seems sad, contrasting with the night before. she starts to tell a very sad story, i had heard before. in the brothel’s restaurant, the police has put the description of a suspected murderer of a colombian hooker in petit chateau a few months ago. she tells me all the story that all the colombianas know in saint martin. a dangerous jamaican customer refused to put a condom, the poor girl tried to defend herself, the guy hit her till she dropped, rapped her through all the holes while unconscious with all kind of objects. when a girl found her, she couldn’t move anymore, could hardly explain what happened and soon died before any first aid. i have the tears in my eyes, imagining the family in colombia having to face her death, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and her prostitute status on the same time. it took a long time before her body could be transferred back to colombia.

i still don’t know how to manage this, when i have to leave a girl in her shit in front of a brothel after having spent such a wonderful night with her. we exchange email and she asks me when i will come back. i wonder if i should pay or not, but i fear to face again weeks of guilt and commitment, communicating together with heartbreaking mails and calls. being a coward, i prefer to pay, but i see in her eyes that it was not what she was expecting from me. she doesn’t thank me, looks a last time at me and disappears. i guess i had hurt her feelings, bringing her back to her hooker’s status. could be she had feelings for me. could be also that she simply would have preferred to be on the good side of the social scale and be the customer herself. at least pleasure was on both side.

Routard, thanks for sharing your story. It was good to read about a perspective of the scene that so few people ever experience or would even ever take the time to experience.

Routard,

This was one of the best and most interesting stories I ever read on ISG! Did you ever consider to write novels? I'm just joking. It was sure a good read.

Routard OMG!

I am offically with out words!

Routard:

Fantastic read!

I've heard of that spot Apollon before, in fact, I think it's mentioned somewhere in the "Bogota Lists" section. Didn't think though a lady could session in there, I thought it was just a Chippendales type of place. Then again, this is Bogota where you've got several swinger clubs and all kinds of crazy shit, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Pretty amusing how the session length is set up though! :)

As for the sexual frustrations of the colombianas, tell me about it! ;) Last incall session I had in Bog, the girl almost ripped my chest hair and skin off as she crested to 5 orgasms. Yikes!!

I've been to St. Martin, and I'm surprised you've gotten so many good experiences there as it is a tough gig, if the girls are not getting work, their bills add up FAST, they are usually too worried about paying their bills for giving GFE. I had one mediocre experience with a girl I took out of "Defiance" (don't know if it's still called that) and I did have a very nice time with a caleña I took out of Seamen's which is probably the best option of what's there on the island.

Interesting that the more experienced girl I took out of Seamen's gave me GFE (whereas I thought she would be more cynical or hardened) while the 1st-timer got annoying by the 2nd day. I think a lot of the new girls are still adjusting and are overwhelmed with the treadmill aspect of the gig, i.e., one or two slow days and they are behind on their payments to the casa.

I'm shocked about the killing. The locals seemed to be pretty laid back to me, although I certainly wouldn't be alone in the rough parts of Philipsburg at night. Still, how anyone can commit a serious crime on a small island and think they can get away with it is beyond me, but I guess it does happen. :(

As for the payment aspect, if I was in your position, I would have paid something too. She does need the money after all, she's got bills to pay in SXM. Next time, just say you know she won't accept payment for her time but consider it a gift for her family because you really esteem her. . .

Thanks for your reaction guys. Phunluv, I couldn't find anything on Internet about Apollon, not even the adress, so let me know if you have more info.
Swing clubs is another scene I would like to try in Bogota.

[QUOTE=Routard]Thanks for your reaction guys. Phunluv, I couldn't find anything on Internet about Apollon, not even the adress, so let me know if you have more info.[/QUOTE]Sorry, looks like I was mixing it up with another strip joint for ladies with a nearly identical name, Apolo's Men which is at Calle 85 con 11 (Zona T near Andino) NOT this Calle 28 place your girl mentioned. The web link for this other place is [url]http://www.apolosmen.com.co[/url] Looks very upscale, but who knows maybe sessioning is possible in there too, the ladies have needs to be met also, ha ha! :)

Now I understand! I remember very well this location. I came back from the Irish Pub with a group of non pro girls, heading to my nearby appartment. I noticed this club (and especially the great looking girls that were entering) believing it was a regular disco. When I asked to give it a try, the girls giggled but didn't explain me why they didn't want to visit it with me.

Having said this, the name is indeed confusing, hard to believe there is a second club in the same town with the same name. But the club she told me about was clearly not in Zona Rosa.

My gf has been to Apolos Men for parties. AFAIK there is no on-site action, but take-out may well be available. I dont think anybody on here is going to be interested in that though. If someone wants to PM me the message for the actual brothel with men in it that would be swell. Maybe I will take her there for her b-day 8)

Next time I come down we are DEFINITELY going to try a swingers club. We are going to try and compile the best list we can and hopefully have a good experience. As per my report in January, they didn't let us into ADN, it could very possibly have been because of our dress, I take it they are very strict. We are going to try a place called Europa that I believe is in Rosales or Zona G.

I am here in Bogota in my new apartment..- with low intrest rates and little money down it is cheaper than a good 4 star hotel. My girlfriend is absolutely kiling me. She has more energy than an energizer bunny. The fact that she is ONLY seeing me on a monthly basis makes for a great hot woman who is in dire need of sex. Her having 4-10 orgasms at a time over a 3-4 hour period is the norn. She wants to cook all meals but I need a few hours rest by going out to eat.

Her twin sisters schmuck husband, being a school holiday, took all the kids to santa marta. Now I have a pair of incredible twins to play with and 3 bedrooms to do it in. I have just begun to explore the possibiities.

Both girls are tall 5 foot 4 and 5 foot 5 with 36-22 waist 36 hips and incredible long legs. The twin of my gf is on the television frequently.

SORRY, I am being paged--do they mae a 1000mg viagra?

Well the truth finally comes out. My gf sister is not only a sex craved lunatic but a swinger. (incidentally as my son mentioned to me the women in movies and tv give the best bbbjs)

Tonight was a very interesting night. My gf sister and I went to a number of very upscale swingers cubs and finally selected a great looking couple for tomorrow night. The only exception is no one touches my gf. That seems fine with them. He recognized my gf sister from television and his wife is bisexual. So it looks like tomorrow night will be interesting. Having 3 drop dead women to have sex with and being the referee in a few othe situations. My gf and her sister have been tested for std's and aids numerous times, but we all agreed to get a current series before the debauchery begins.

It looks like I will need an additional person with a video camera just to remind me of what happens tomorrow.-more to follow if I survive.

Mel

[QUOTE=Bonhead]I took up residence in Zona Norte at the Fontana hotel (US$90/night) - nice place and teeming with amazingly beautiful, well-off women all over the hotel. The hotel set me up with a driver and car for US$6/hr. I didn't like the driver as he was old and not very friendly--so as I would go from place to place with different cab drivers, I found one I liked who knew about the mongering scene well and stuck with him. My spanish is at best intermediate, but I'm latino so I fit in moreso than others. Although the quality of the women at spots like La Mansion, Lido, Casanova's etc. was very good, they are all major rip-off joints IMO. They charge upwards of 20k pesos for one drink (uno trago!). Not my type of place.

Anyway, my driver told told me the best place to go is an area named Conrrado-so I took him up on it (vamos). Depending on where you are coming from, negotiate with the driver to get you there--from the Norte area expect to pay between 10,000-15,000 pesos depending on your bargaining skills (off the meter). The ride is about 20-30 minutes depending on traffic. The best thing to do is have the cab driver drive you around the 5 or 6 blocks so you can get a general feel of the area. It is essentially a red light district with girls all over the place (street, bars, clubs).

Conrrado obviously isn't the greatest of areas, but for the most part I didn't feel like there was any impending doom. The best place here is La Piscina. A huge place with an olympic sized pool smack in the middle of it. There were around 80-100 girls here and an equal number of guys. The ladies were charging anywhere from 30k-80k pesos for short-time. You can definitely negotiate here and you will find some real stunners. My standards are pretty high having spent a significant amount of time in Brazil--but I would say there were at least four 10's here. Boob jobs were pretty common amongst the chicas. To sit around the pool you have to buy a bottle (or half a bottle). Since I was alone I didn't bother and was content standing around with my 3k pesos cerveza (~US$1.25). No cover charge.

My advice would be to check out the four/five blocks around this area as you will find quite a few gems. I'll warn you guys now--if you come out of La Piscina and make a right, at the end of the block you'll find a few transsexuals. They aren't as aggressive as some of the ones in Brazil are--so just take this as a light-hearted warning in case you're stoned or drunk. They are pretty obvious to spot though--not super-passable like the ones in Brazil who can pretty much fool damn near anyone. Speaking of stoned, if you are into perico, you can acquire this from any of the vendors selling gum/cigs for 'un pase'. 4-5k pesos will get you a baggie (~1 gram) which should be enough to wild out for the night.

My favorite place was also the most racous. Its around the block (or two blocks away) and called La Casona in the area of Conrrado. The girls here are not as hot as La Piscina, but you will have fun here. To put this in context, patrons, including the ladies were doing lines in the open on the tables--this might be way to crazy for most here, but I had a BLAST! I met this one guy who calls himself John and can speak broken spanish. He hooked me up with one of his girls, a sexy, petite 19 year old named Xiomara for $55 all night long. Feel free to give him a call at either 3103058652, or 3103058663--just tell him that he hooked up one of your friends with that girl Xiomara. She was pretty cool--we had one long 2 hour session after we got back to my place around 1am, she left at 7am--I was too tired for morning action.

Other action--there are three chica houses within several feet of each other at the corner of Calle 67-18 (I think this is in the Zona Norte area, but it might be right on the border).

Hope this helps some of you.[/QUOTE]
Hey everyone, just wanted to bump up this old post of mine. I did a search here for Conrrado but only found one other post besides mine here that mentioned the area explicitly. Can someone give me a heads up if this area is still a good place to go? Is this area close to Santa Fe? There are two La Piscinas from what I gather -- any idea which is the one I visited?

Finally, does anyone have any information on the Four Points Sheraton hotel? How is the location, girl friendly, etc.? Thanks!

[QUOTE=Bonhead]Hey everyone, just wanted to bump up this old post of mine. I did a search here for Conrrado but only found one other post besides mine here that mentioned the area explicitly. Can someone give me a heads up if this area is still a good place to go? Is this area close to Santa Fe? There are two La Piscinas from what I gather -- any idea which is the one I visited?
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The area is actually called Barrio Sante Fe. It's a good place to go, but not advisable at night, if alone, or not Spanish-speaking, or looking too much like a gringo.

There are two La Piscinas. One during the day, down the street called Piscina del Dia, open during the day approx. 12 pm - 8 pm. And the main version, open 7 pm until 2 or 3 am.

Not sure where the "Conrrado" came from. That's a neighborhood in Rio. LOL!!!

No no, it's San Conrado that he's talking about. I know people who have been but I can't unfortunately get the address off of them, it's a LONG story.

Oh, and apparently it's one of the places where the girls will NOT do it w/o a condom, at least thats exactly what this person who went was *****ing about. This goes to our previous conversation HH ;)

I'll see if I can Google it up.

By some accounts Santa Fe is super dangerous, by others it's extremely safe, it all depends who you talk to. I wouldn't let my guard down there but I wouldn't let my guard down anywhere. Personally I think if you're going to be in Bogota you may as well go there as the ZR or any other place. Santa Fe LOOKS really bad but you are much more likely to get taken on a paseo etc. in the North. But once again, that does not mean it's necessarily 100% safe either.

There's another area called the Zona Roja Del Sur, on 1 de Mayo, NOT Cuadra Picha or the immediate area, but west of there along 1 de Mayo, THAT is the only entertainment district in Bogota that I would seriously recommend you stay away from unless you know exactly what you are doing.

Mel I hope you'll give a full report of the swinger thing, my gf and I really wanna do it right the next time I come down, which is right around the corner really :P

[QUOTE=Bango Cheito]There's another area called the Zona Roja Del Sur, on 1 de Mayo, NOT Cuadra Picha or the immediate area, but west of there along 1 de Mayo, THAT is the only entertainment district in Bogota that I would seriously recommend you stay away from unless you know exactly what you are doing.[/QUOTE]

I have been there once, very different atmosphere compared to Zona Rosa. It's in the south, the poor area of Bogota and it's a good one hour drive from the North area depending traffic. Lot's of nightclubs and bars along the main avenue, 1 de Mayo, incredible party atmosphere, but only recommended for those familiar with Latin American. I didn't feel unsafe, but was happy to be with Colombians, as I was the only gringo. In fact, main problem are the drunk people by night on the streets. It might be a good place to score although I can't confirm it. I danced salsa with a few Colombianas, invited a few others for drinks, but didn't try to go further as I was already with a girl friend.

[QUOTE=Mel365] My gf sister and I went to a number of very upscale swingers cubs and finally selected a great looking couple for tomorrow night. [/QUOTE]

Can't wait to read your stories. Could you ask your gf sister for an overview of the swinger's scene in Bogota. Which are the best swinger clubs? Can you visit them as a single or is it better to come with a prepago?

[QUOTE=Mel365]I am here in Bogota in my new apartment..- with low intrest rates and little money down it is cheaper than a good 4 star hotel. [/QUOTE]

Hi Mel. I'm looking at buying an apt there too, but interest rates seem to be 10% or more, which doesn't seem very low to me.

Where have you found low interest rates for little money down?

Thw normal intrest rate is 10-12% unless you know someone. There is also a special exception for widows who can borrow against their government pension at an extremely low rate. I have both important frineds and a widow GF. Today I looked at a fantastic apartment calle 95 up against the mountain high with a great city view. Drive in underground garage, manned front desk, elevators, swimming pool, gym, sauna. 4 bedrooms, american size, $200k US.

If you go through the normal channels you will pay the normal intrest rate.

I forgot to mention you can also purchase a 3 bedroom apartment near plaza of the americas. In the south for 30k us$. I have been there and staye there and do not feel insecure.

Mel

Zona rosa south,

Avenue May 1.

I have spent a lot of time there and the action is great.

I would suggest sunset till about 11pm--I go sol, but those of you who know me, know I am crazy.

For more security go with a wingman.

If your spanish is poor forget it.

Remember shoes-no sneakers, no gold, no jewelry, no short sleeves, just plain clothes.

Mel

Routard,

I do not know where she took us but the clubs were VERY upscale. The women and men looked wealthy. I know you must have a woman with you and the places we went to required pre-screening. These were clubs in apartment buildings and not on street level. She knew a number of people in each club. I believe this is a very special group of people. Today is a Colombian holiday and she went home to be with her husband. I will try to get more info for you.

Mel

I am trying to make a "flow chart" of what happened last night.

After the first hour things became a blurr with who did what to whom with what. I am literally trying to remember all the details in sequence.

The computer I have here does not have microsoft word. I will have to wait till I get home to make the writeup as this program will time out before I can get down all the details. I still have 6 more days to go-I need a spare dick as the one I have is in very poor shape.

Mel

[QUOTE=Routard]I have been there once, very different atmosphere compared to Zona Rosa. It's in the south, the poor area of Bogota and it's a good one hour drive from the North area depending traffic. Lot's of nightclubs and bars along the main avenue, 1 de Mayo, incredible party atmosphere, but only recommended for those familiar with Latin American. I didn't feel unsafe, but was happy to be with Colombians, as I was the only gringo. In fact, main problem are the drunk people by night on the streets. It might be a good place to score although I can't confirm it. I danced salsa with a few Colombianas, invited a few others for drinks, but didn't try to go further as I was already with a girl friend.[/QUOTE]

It sounds to me like you were in the Cuadra Picha area, which despite it's name is actually safer than the ZR and the 93. I recommend that area for ANYBODY going to Bogota. The club owners take a very strong interest in keeping it safe and have private security, which can often be much better than police :P but there is also a strong police presence there.

Just a quick note (because I am waaaay out of my forum comfort zone over here in Colombia), but a quick bit or research suggests that 10% isn't that high.... inflation in Colombia is about 4.5%, so in real terms, the rate is 5.5%.

By comparison, the US has an inflation rate of about 2.5%, so, a rate of 10% in Colombia is about the same as a rate of 8% in the US - unless of course you are borrowing US dollars in Colombia, then forget everything I just said.

Also, don't be afraid of borrowing money internationally - lots of the offshore banks will lend you money to buy a house wherever as long as you can jump through whatever hoops they want you to (the Singaporeans are big on that sort of thing, they'll even lend you money in US $, pounds, Euros and a few other currencies, but not COP afaik). Presupposing you earn US $, the only risk of borrowing in a foreign currency is that if the dollar tanks even further, your payments will rise in proportion - the flipside is, if the dollar gets stronger, your payments will drop. Once more if you borrow and pay for the place in $ then this isn't applicable either.

Just my way of pouring a couple of cups of love back into the great river which nourishes us all, I hope it is helpful.

[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen]Hi Mel. I'm looking at buying an apt there too, but interest rates seem to be 10% or more, which doesn't seem very low to me.

Where have you found low interest rates for little money down?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bango Cheito]No no, it's San Conrado that he's talking about. I know people who have been but I can't unfortunately get the address off of them, it's a LONG story.
[/QUOTE]
Hoof is correct. Those places La Piscina and La Casona are in Barrio Santa Fe.

Use the Transmilenio stop Calle 22 as a reference point. Getting off at this stop, you'll see the neon sign for La Piscina.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calle_22_(TransMilenio)

But there IS also a place called San Conrado, (In Bogota as well as Rio :P )

[QUOTE=Bango Cheito]But there IS also a place called San Conrado, (In Bogota as well as Rio :P )[/QUOTE]

So is San Conrado anywhere near Barrio Santa Fe? Which area are La Casona and La Piscina in?

Any details on what goes on in San Conrado? Similar to Santa Fe?

[QUOTE=Bonhead]So is San Conrado anywhere near Barrio Santa Fe? Which area are La Casona and La Piscina in?

Any details on what goes on in San Conrado? Similar to Santa Fe?[/QUOTE]

We KNOW that La Piscina, Casona, Castillo, Las Paisas, etc. are in Barrio Sante Fe. Period. Full stop.

Bango - where exactly is San Conrado? Is it a barrio or just one place? How does it compare to Barrio Sante Fe? Research, baby, research. LOL!!!

I'm working on it, maybe we should ask on CB hahahahaahah!

OK research complete...

Apparently it's called Conrrado and it's at cll 6 and cra 30. I imagine any taxista worth his or her salt could take you there. I believe that neighborhood is called Galan and it's mostly Estrato 3. Hopefully somebody will take one for the team. Like I said I have to focus on swinger clubs next time I'm down. Actually my gf grew up really near to there so it's probably a good idea we avoid that shit for the time being altogether... but somebody go check it out and let us know what's what!

Another tip from the same dude.... this is an underground place... it's right at the corner of 81 and 16, watch where all the HOT women enter in getting out of the vans and follow them up. Why is it underground when prostitution is legal over there? Beats me. But I'm just passing it along :P

Today I had an opportunity to escape from home and go mongering.

I had found an MP on Internet that was Calle 129 bis 35-06.

I have tried to found it several times without success, but one day as I was having lunch at the north’s motorway’s Cali Mio I saw a couple of cuties enter a house and I realized that it was the MP. I was just amazed and can’t understand why their Internet’s site wouldn’t give that information that makes it so easy to found. So, once again, to find it, go south on the north motorway and when you see the Cali Mio (chicken restaurant) on your right, the MP is just in front of it (north of the restaurant). They have some place to park a car but it is definitely better to go with a taxi. If you come from the south, just ask the taxi driver to let you at the bridge after the Chevrolet dealer (Continauto). Cross the motorway with the bridge, turn right and walk 2 blocks till the Cali Mio restaurant. The entrance is just after the restaurant.

Well, I arrived around 3pm and got in the house at the 2nd floor.

I have been received by a working girl as soon as I got in the place.

She took me to a room and explained me the prices: 150K for an hour full service. If you want a real bed and not a massage table you have to pay an extra 30K and go to 3rd floor. They have more services like massage, happy endings, nude girl, . I asked to see the girl and I was presented to more than 12 girls, all in short black dress.

At that game, I noticed a real nice girl, slim, not to tall (1, 6m), with long hairs, nice medium size tits and a very nice face: Liliana.

I asked her if she would do a BBBJ and let me do a DATY to her and she agreed. I then asked her for pictures and she said no.

As the second floor only have massage table and was very noisy I decided to go upstairs.

We got in the room and start our relation.

Rooms are nice and big with a good bed and a lot of mirrors every where.

I gave her a strong DATY that she seemed to enjoy as she moan a lot and press my head in her legs. After a while I turned a little bit and she grabbed my dick to enter in 69.

Her BBBJ was very good and I had to stop her after 5 minutes for not coming right away.

I then put my best friend on her pussy and start to rub it on her clit. She left me do it but she was worried that I could enter her. I tried to propose her a tip to go BBFS but she was not ready to accept that and told me no.

She then covered me and we went to several positions.

Liliana was very willing to please but, I was not feeling much with the condom.

I had to stop 3 or 4 times as I was very tired and I was loosing stiffness.

At a moment I went on my back and ask her to finish me with her hand.

She seemed glad to do it and took the condom out and gave me a very good HJ till the happy ending.

She then cleaned me and the bed of my milk and went directly to the shower while I remained on the bed to recover.

After a few minutes, she came back with her clothes on. I told her that only 35 minutes have passed and that we had a full hour commitment. She told me that it was 1 hour and 1 relation. As I had come that was the end of it. .

I told her that I was not OK with that and she accepts to remain with me. She starts to touch me and in no time I was stiff again!

I took her clothes off and put her on the bed. She was saying no all the time but she left me do it. I gave her another DATY but she was closing her legs and trying to escape.

So, of course I couldn’t do much more but we had some good DFK and I could finger her again. But then, the hour was finished and I accept with a hard dick to put my clothes on again. As I told her that she was telling me no all the time, she finally accepted to let me take a picture.

I then paid her took her phone number and kissed good bye.

She promised me that she would go BBFS if I call her.

As she was really nice I may try that if I can found another opportunity to escape home again.

Cheers

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Sorry we could not meet up.

I was free most of Saturday.

I am now back in the USA.

Mel

I have spent 40 minutes checking thouroughly the area, but it appears that Bar Zhivago isn't there anymore:

Bar Zhivago (Juan Pablo Karaoke), Carrera 18 # 93A-83, 80,000 Bar Fine, Starting Price COP 200,000 60 mins.

Everyone knows the Two Piscina establishments in Santa Fé. However, someone mentioned on this board a Piscina in Zona Rosa. True or False ? If true, where ? Santa Fé is too seedy for my taste, I prefer higher end venues. A Piscina in Zona Rosa would be great.

I have tried a good provider (Sharik) with the escort site [url]www.niisha.com[/url] . Damage was COP 180K for 1 hour. Expensive, but the girl was exactly like the pictures, and exactly like I ordered her. We checked the website together and the pictures were truly hers.

Sharik is 25 years old. She is a former pro that left the business in order to start her beauty and hair saloon. She has come back to the business in order to pay for her debts and her employees' salaries.

Not tall, impeccable appearance, a very thin blonde spinner. Sex was so good with her that I spent all of our time on the basics (missionnary and cowgirl), not even doing any of the other positions. Apparently, the fact that I am very well groomed and that I use quality masculine perfume turned her on. As I was caressing her, she became so wet, that I could feel the wetness across her short and her pants! She moaned quite loudly when I did DATY on her. She's been gone for one hour now, and the bed is still wet where she laid.

I wanted to take her for an extra hour, but she was in a hurry to come back to her saloon, that her employees were keeping open! I really do not regret the service, and I would repeat.

Wow, I am still flabbergasted: a Columbian escort site with real pictures! Well, not everything is perfect. Her description mentioned that she did anal, and this was NOT the case.

Regards to you all! BB.

PS. I also tried a provider with the [url]www.superamantes.com[/url] website. I do NOT recommend. The girls are average looking, not at all like the pictures on the website, and act much too professionnal for my taste. The only positive thing was that they sent me two girls, so that I could pick the one I liked best. Price was COP 160K + 20K taxi for the girl that I sent away.

[QUOTE=Bimbo Boy]PS. I also tried a provider with the [url]www.superamantes.com[/url] website. I do NOT recommend. The girls are average looking, not at all like the pictures on the website, and act much too professionnal for my taste. [/QUOTE]

I took a look at the site. I know one of the girls, Melissa, has a fake set of pictures. The woman featured there is a porn star named Caroline Pierce. That photo set was featured on one of those Bang Brothers sites. I know because I have the sets, and she is one of my all time favorites.

[QUOTE=Bimbo Boy]I have spent 40 minutes checking thouroughly the area, but it appears that Bar Zhivago isn't there anymore
[/QUOTE]

Too bad, this was my favorite place. Regarding another Piscina in Zona T, I guess someone mixed it up with one of the clubs on calle 86 Cr15 (Extasia, Casanova and Copacabana) as one of them has indeed something that looks like a swimming pool inside. Anyway, these clubs are the closest from Zona Rosa you can find.

[QUOTE=Routard]
While walking through the mall, I was once again impressed by the cutties walking around. It’s simply amazing and I love how they watch me straight into my eyes and smile. It happens all day long here, and it has never ever happened me not even once in my hometown. Simply incredible. I have to add at this point that I have never ever tried to date anyone anymore since 20 years and I felt quiet nervous about it. Well believe it or not, but just a couple of hours after landing in Bogotá, I was already at a pub together with 4 pretty young girls. Not one night during that week I was alone, the social time was simply incredible. I could meet as much beautiful girls as I liked, coming from the best backgrounds and in the finest environments.
[/QUOTE]
Hello Routard!

I was really enthusiastic with your posts about Bogota, and I tried to follow in your footsteps ... and I am sorry to report complete failure. When I am in Brazil, I do like you do and it is heaven! I tried to do the same in Bogota and failed miserably.

First, I did not find the girls in the street beautiful at all, as compared to Brazil, and especially Argentina. In all of 3 days here, I only saw one Colombiana that could classify as a top model, where in Argentina and Brazil, there were so many.

You mentioned that girls walking in the street look at you straight in the eyes, are always ready to start a conversation, and never refuse an invitation for a drink. You must be blessed! Because I found the girls in Bogota wary, distrustful, always polite but not ready to engage conversation. Especially in the higher class districts, women can even give you hard looks meaning "do not disturb!".

I do not understand. I am quite used to Latin America, speak perfect Spanish, and always have a wonderful time in Argentina, Brazil or Mexico.

Is it the recent economic wealth that is turning the Bogotan like New Yorkers? Next time I will try Cali and Medellin.

Bimbo Boy.

[QUOTE=Bimbo Boy]I found the girls in Bogota wary, distrustful, always polite but not ready to engage conversation. Especially in the higher class districts, women can even give you hard looks meaning "do not disturb!".[/QUOTE]

I feel sorry to hear that. It's always amazing how people can have different experience for a same destination. I did Brazil and Colombia in the same trip,only 15% of girls walking around in Copa Cabana turned me on compared to 90% in Zona Rosa of Bogota. True, this is a very personal opinion. In Bogota I did mainly the amateur scene while I had not even one freeby in Rio. I confess, I didn't even try the amateur scene in Rio mainly because I'm more comfortable in Spanish than Portuguese, but also because the Terma scene is so amazing.

Have you tried Irish Pub in Zona Rosa on Friday or Saturday? This is the main spot where expats meet regular girls from the higher class districts. Could be that it's hard for a tourist to hook-up with a girl as they are looking for real relation. I acted as if I was an expat myself (I am actually an expat but in another country) in my behaviour and dressing, having an appartment, a few business relations and friends among expats. This might be the reason maybe of a complete different experience.

By the way, Expats and Colombians all confirmed me that party atmosphere is much better in Medellin and people are much more open in Medellin that Bogota. Bogota was already for me amazing, Medellin is on top of my to do list.

[QUOTE=Bimbo Boy]I have spent 40 minutes checking thouroughly the area, but it appears that Bar Zhivago isn't there anymore:

Bar Zhivago (Juan Pablo Karaoke), Carrera 18 # 93A-83, 80,000 Bar Fine, Starting Price COP 200,000 60 mins.[/QUOTE]Hi there,

I was there yesterday and can confirm it is still up and running.

Have fun

[QUOTE=Routard]Too bad, this was my favorite place. Regarding another Piscina in Zona T, I guess someone mixed it up with one of the clubs on calle 86 Cr15 (Extasia, Casanova and Copacabana) as one of them has indeed something that looks like a swimming pool inside. Anyway, these clubs are the closest from Zona Rosa you can find.[/QUOTE]Hi guys,

I actually was in Bar Shivago last night, it is still up and running. The reason it was closed the last couple of days was because of the elections, that`s at least what the door guy said.

Enjoy

[QUOTE=Routard]I feel sorry to hear that. It's always amazing how people can have different experience for a same destination.[/QUOTE]
Yes, we all have different experiences. I have actually also given up on the pro scene in Brazil, as I have more non-pro's than I can handle ... in several cities!

By the way. Today's experience was better. I was dressed "casual chic", with expensive shoes and leather jacket. I was also carrying a couple of bags from a nice shop in El Andino shopping center. I noticed that girls looked at me much more often ... after noticing my branded purchasing bags! I was much more successful than when I was just wearing a business suit.

This is a proof that Colombian girls are very status conscious ... but that is true for all Latinas ... and for women worldwide anyway ...

Thanks for the tip on the British pub. Medellin and other regional capitals are on my plans!

Regards. Bimbo Boy.

Hi,

This is my second post. I just found out about this web page today. I am a Colombian man living in Bogota and I want to help you with anything you want. If you want to buy an apartment the best place to do it, if you want to get it cheap in a safe zone is about from 45 to 72 above the septima. This place is called chapinero alto. This place is where students live, so if you are looking forward to buy an apartment, on this area are mainly 1 or 2 rooms. All international Flights get to El dorado airport. If you are heading to an other city in Colombia by Avianca, a bus willl take you to the puente Aereo. As for pros, I can tell a good website with real pictures is Niisha.com, complice. Tk. The pros are charging a lot lately, the cheaper ones you can find are about 150K the hour. Feel free to ask anything, I suggest Paulina from Niisha.

[QUOTE=Routard]It's always amazing how people can have different experience for a same destination. I did Brazil and Colombia in the same trip,only 15% of girls walking around in Copa Cabana turned me on compared to 90% in Zona Rosa of Bogota.[/QUOTE]I've got to agree with you, Routard.

I am convinced that my expectatons and dreams were way too high for Rio. I was disappointed in both
the looks and the attitudes there.

At the same time, I enjoyed the hell out of my trip to Bogota, quite a bit more than Medellin.

It's a good thing that we have so many different tastes. If we all coveted the same type of girl in the
same place, none of us could possibly afford her.

The world is our oyster, and it is a big, big place.

When you think about it, our views will natuarally be skewed by the girls we met and the quality of the
experiences we had. How many chicas do most of us meet on a trip? Maybe 10? Sometimes 20?

In a city of 3 million people like Bogota or 6 million in Rio or 12 million in Buenos Aires, that is
nothing. Absolutely nothing. Our sample size is so small that it really is silly to judge a place
by our handful of experiences.

But we can't help from doing it anyway, can we?

DB

[QUOTE=Routard]I feel sorry to hear that. It's always amazing how people can have different experience for a same destination.[/QUOTE]
Well, it may have something to do with the weather as well. Most of the time it was rainy and cold. It was also election time with the "dry laws" shutting the bars at night. This may have an influence on people's morale. I may have come at the wrong period.
BB.

[QUOTE=Bimbo Boy] Most of the time it was rainy and cold. [/QUOTE]
As always in Bogota, don't worry about the weather effect. On the other hand, elections may have had a bad influence. Another thing is that nightlife is incredible on Friday and Saturday, slow during week days and almost dead on Sunday. I remember I was so depressed on Sunday evening that I called a prepago for meeting me at Irish Pub. I had even decided to leave Bogota and give Medellin a try. But on Monday, before I could book a flight to Medellin, I had already plenty of calls and a busy schedule for the rest of the week. :)

[QUOTE=Dodger Bulldog]
It's a good thing that we have so many different tastes. If we all coveted the same type of girl in the same place, none of us could possibly afford her.
[/QUOTE]

Can't agree more with that.

It's obvious that we all have different tastes and those looking for tall blondes girls for example might be disappointed in Colombia.

But I have another theory. I guess each of us attract also different types of girls. That means that each of us might experience different reactions from girls in different coutries. Yes, it's obvious that I love Colombian looks. But I have also the feeling that for some indefined reason it's in Colombia that girls like most my look or attitude. In no other country I have experienced so many girls looking and smiling at me, and I mean regular girls of course. If you guys tell me that you don't experience the same in Colombia but you experience this in other countries where I have no girls smiling at me, then my theory might be true. It might sound silly, but for example I hate my chin. Well, no one will compliment me about my chin elsewhere, not even hookers. Guess what, Colombianas always notice my chin as being what they like about me. Maybe it's the chin of some kind of Colombian telenovela star, duno. :D

Anyway, I have no explaination, I guess my chin has nothing to do with it, all I can say is that there seems to be a strong mutual attraction between Colombianas and me, and having visited more that 50 countries throughout the world, I finally found the place where I should settle. I guess each of us should then go around the world and find the country that fits him like a penis in a pussy.

I have a 4 hour layover on Monday Nov 5th in Bogota and would like to get some service while I wait. Are there any casas or massage parlors close to the airport? Will I have enough time? I have read the forum extensivley but can't find any info as to location and distance to airport. I will be travelling on to Aruba and you can read my reports of Aruba since I am very experienced with the Happy People.

I will be returning to Bogota on Friday Nov 9th for a 12 hour layover 7:30pm to 7:00am. I will be getting a room at the Cosmos 100. Is this hotel chica freindly? Anyone want to get together? Let me know.

Thanks!

I have checked the massage place Abejitas ([url]www.abejitas.com[/url]) in the Zona Rosa.
I can't comprehend how people can go to massage places like these to get laid. It's like a "service station" for people to blow their load. There are rows of narrow massage beds on wheels, positionned in narrow rooms. I found it very depressing and walked away. This is very very far from any GFE.
The staff seemd to be relatively good looking and friendly though.
Regards BB.

J Screen your best bet would be to have the hotel staff order outcall for you. There is stuff going on all over the city but I personally don't know anything about right near the airport, even though I know the area very well from having stayed around there a lot. Off of Avenida El Dorado I know there are a bunch of love motels but I assume people bring their own pussy there. Aside from that the area is very very residential.

If you're looking for a good guide in Bogota, I can help you. I will instruct you in another report.

Is the "La Mansion" in Bogota still active? I have read reports from a year or two ago about this place (on Calle 116 and Autopista) but haven't heard anything about this place more recently. Has anyone been there recently.

[QUOTE=Fool Sex]Is the "La Mansion" in Bogota still active? I have read reports from a year or two ago about this place (on Calle 116 and Autopista) but haven't heard anything about this place more recently. Has anyone been there recently.[/QUOTE]Still alive and very busy. Was there about 1 month ago on a Friday night. Take out there is 150, 000 pesos and a drink is 20, 000. Still a good place and lots of girls.

[QUOTE=Routard] ...
By the way, Expats and Colombians all confirmed me that party atmosphere is much better in Medellin and people are much more open in Medellin that Bogota. Bogota was already for me amazing, Medellin is on top of my to do list.[/QUOTE]


I'll tell you what, the people are even more open in Cali or Barranquilla than Medellin.

[QUOTE=Bimbo Boy]Hello Routard!

I was really enthusiastic with your posts about Bogota, and I tried to follow in your footsteps ... and I am sorry to report complete failure. When I am in Brazil, I do like you do and it is heaven! I tried to do the same in Bogota and failed miserably.

First, I did not find the girls in the street beautiful at all, as compared to Brazil, and especially Argentina. In all of 3 days here, I only saw one Colombiana that could classify as a top model, where in Argentina and Brazil, there were so many.

You mentioned that girls walking in the street look at you straight in the eyes, are always ready to start a conversation, and never refuse an invitation for a drink. You must be blessed! Because I found the girls in Bogota wary, distrustful, always polite but not ready to engage conversation. Especially in the higher class districts, women can even give you hard looks meaning "do not disturb!".

I do not understand. I am quite used to Latin America, speak perfect Spanish, and always have a wonderful time in Argentina, Brazil or Mexico.

Is it the recent economic wealth that is turning the Bogotan like New Yorkers? Next time I will try Cali and Medellin.

Bimbo Boy.[/QUOTE]

Hey amigo ... give Cali, Medellin or the coastal cities a try. I think you'll be pleased.

If you've got a pleasant personality and speak spanish, you'll make friends very quickly. Trust me :)

[QUOTE=Rvy Boy]Still alive and very busy. Was there about 1 month ago on a Friday night. Take out there is 150, 000 pesos and a drink is 20, 000. Still a good place and lots of girls.[/QUOTE]

Nice place, but not sure its worth the money: the same girls often work other more economical outlets. Even bumped into one girl I knew who worked there on the street.

With Bogotá having almost three times as many inhabitants as Medellin (6.8 million vs 2.3 million), I find it somewhat intriguing that the Medellin subforum here has almost twice as much traffic.

Does this mean that Medellin gets twice as many tourists?

Does Bogota have three times as large of a P4P scene?

What keeps folks away from Bogota? Weather? Cost? Expansiveness of the city?

Personally, I've been to both cities and heading back to Bogota again later this month. I tend to give an edge to Bogota primarily because it is more of a cosmopolitan city comprised of Colombians from all over Colombia with the added bonus of many foreigners living there. There is a greater selection of international cuisines, cultural activities and having businesses in finance, Bogota's is Colombia's financial epicenter.

How about you folks?

[QUOTE=Bonhead]With Bogotá having almost three times as many inhabitants as Medellin (6.8 million vs 2.3 million), I find it somewhat intriguing that the Medellin subforum here has almost twice as much traffic.

Does this mean that Medellin gets twice as many tourists?

Does Bogota have three times as large of a P4P scene?

What keeps folks away from Bogota? Weather? Cost? Expansiveness of the city?

Personally, I've been to both cities and heading back to Bogota again later this month. I tend to give an edge to Bogota primarily because it is more of a cosmopolitan city comprised of Colombians from all over Colombia with the added bonus of many foreigners living there. There is a greater selection of international cuisines, cultural activities and having businesses in finance, Bogota's is Colombia's financial epicenter.

How about you folks?[/QUOTE]From what I hear, Medellin is much safer and easier to get around, so I continue to return there.

As a general rule, when I vacation, mongering or not, I want to go to a place with weather least as good as where I come from, if not better (and I live in CA). So no way I'm going to Bogota, despite what it has to offer. I spent 3 hours in the Bogota airport and I remember getting a little light headed from the altitude also. Makes it harder to hit the ground running. When I go someplace, spending lots of money to get there, I want to take clothing off, not put it on! (chicas and skiiing aside).

I prefer hot and humid over cool/cold any day. But that's me.

I'm not putting down Bogota in any way, just prefer nicer climates.

[QUOTE=Bonhead]With Bogotá having almost three times as many inhabitants
as Medellin (6.8 million vs 2.3 million), I find it somewhat intriguing that the Medellin subforum here has almost twice as much traffic.

Does this mean that Medellin gets twice as many tourists?

Does Bogota have three times as large of a P4P scene?

What keeps folks away from Bogota? Weather? Cost? Expansiveness of the city?

Personally, I've been to both cities and heading back to Bogota again later this month. I tend to give an edge to Bogota primarily because it is more of a cosmopolitan city comprised of Colombians from all over Colombia with the added bonus of many foreigners living there. There is a greater selection of international cuisines, cultural activities and having businesses in finance, Bogota's is Colombia's financial epicenter.

How about you folks?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Malodr]From what I hear, Medellin is much safer and easier to get around, so I continue to return there.[/QUOTE]
actually on a per capita basis, Bogota is much safer than MDE, especially for foreigners since Bogota experiences a much higher percentage of business travellers.

I think most people prefer the weather in Medellin and apparently the girls are considered better-looking, but both of those are subjective. The typical Paisa look isn't what turns me on, I prefer girls with a little more junk in the trunk :P and personally I LOVE Bogota's weather. I hate the heat.

As for crime, no way in hell Medellin is safer than Bogota. Both cities were a lot more dangerous 10 years ago but Medellin has always had more crime. In both cities though, everybody freaks out over the major crimes like homicides and kidnappings, but really you should put your energy into watching out for the petty crimes which are much more prevalent, like having your pocket picked or your bag snatched.

So what is a good hotel which is Chica friendly. Last time I stayed a Casa Dann Carlton and they didn't let anyone not registered at the time of checking in after 9 pm. Any good recommendations?

Hello everyone,

I have pretty much been lurking here on the Colombia reports for 3 weeks, I am finally on my way later on today. I didn't really want to post anything because I did not have any information to share, but after this weekend, I will have plenty.

A little about myself (I think everyone should do this to get a better feel on how their experience was and how another person can get a better understanding of how they can fall and share the same experience):

I'm 22 y/o, 6'2, half Ecuadorian half Dominican, a lot of people think I'm African American, live in the nation's capitol, speak spanglish and kind of shy :) Peru is my usual mongering spot, but I decided to check Colombia out.

I've pretty much read every page on Bogotá here and I am going to try to hit a lot of good places. I have already started by arranging dates from ladies online. A good place for you guys to check out is Hi5.com. Kind of like myspace.com but a lot of latinos from central and south america are on it, from all age ranges too! I sent out a shit load of messages, and got a pretty good response. I narrowed my picks down to 6 and I know I am going to have to cut that down because I'm only in Bogota for 3 days. I have one of them picking me up from the airport!

If anyone wants to hang out on Friday night, let me know, I'm definitely down for some tag teaming. Reports and pics to cum! I hope these ladies can handle a big slice of meat inside them!

Here of some pics of the ladies I have to narrow down.

[QUOTE=Fool Sex]So what is a good hotel which is Chica friendly. Last time I stayed a Casa Dann Carlton and they didn't let anyone not registered at the time of checking in after 9 pm. Any good recommendations?[/QUOTE]

Speaking of hotel recommendations, can someone suggest a place close to the airport where I could nap for a few hours during a layover. Not too expensive or noisy ?

thanks !

Hopes not those girls from hi5 see them selfs on the international sexgide page. If they do I don't think you have so nice time with them.

[QUOTE=Mister Ecua]Hello everyone,

I have pretty much been lurking here on the Colombia reports for 3 weeks, I am finally on my way later on today. I didn't really want to post anything because I did not have any information to share, but after this weekend, I will have plenty.[/quote]

[QUOTE=Bingooo]Hopes not those girls from hi5 see them selfs on the international sexgide page. If they do I don't think you have so nice time with them.[/QUOTE]Before I post any photos, I make sure first to put them online. Actually, 3 of the ladies I've been with have requested me to put more photos up here after I showed them the site.

[QUOTE=Mister Ecua]...after I showed them the site.[/QUOTE]

...

Everytime a guy tells his favorite puta about this site, god kills a kitten.
They can read you know. Makes it a little harder to win when you show them the playbook, ya?

[QUOTE=Cabroncito]Speaking of hotel recommendations, can someone suggest a place close to the airport where I could nap for a few hours during a layover. Not too expensive or noisy ?

thanks ![/QUOTE]

Closest one I know to the airport, apart from the motels, is the Forte. But for a few hours kip its prob hard to beat the motels.

hey there can anyone recommend a taxista in Bog? Also what is the going rate per hour if I need a taxi for 5-6 hours to drive me around town? Thanks.

12k per hour.

I think these guys can help you

I haven't used them so let me know how they are.

[url]www.bogotacasa.com[/url]

touched down in bog on thursday and immediately got my non-pros into the rotation by letting them know i was in town and setting up times to meet with them.

long story short, i've gone out with four of them (taking them to eat, for drinks at a bar, or going to dance at a lounge in zona rosa) and shagged two. the other two i didn't care to mostly because it looked like i would have to put in several days of work, which i couldn't dedicate given my limited time here (i leave in two days!).

spent some time in barrio santa fe, at places like piscina, las vegas, atunes, club paisa, etc. lots of gems hidden throughout the area, but you've got to put in the work. i think the best time to go is around 6-7pm. as many people have already pointed out, the area is a little rough around the edges and there are lots of suspect characters out and about. i fit in very easily so i barely get a second look, despite my lack of fluency in spanish (i do get by very well). you will undoubtely see lots of perrico usage in the clubs, both by the girls and customers.

i took home an 18 year old spinner named tatiana from las vegas (easily a solid 8, but on my scale she is 9). she's about 5'2", 100lbs, amazing ass and nice size breasts (maybe 34b). she speaks perfect english having lived in texas for a while with her mom. we got very cool and her personal story is pretty sad. her mom is a drug addict who lives in texas, undocumented, and also was a puta while in bogota. tatiana has been stripping in clubs in houston since the age of 15, and living as a runaway. eventually ins caught up with her and she was deported. she started living the puta life around 17 and has been doing it for the last year or so.

one thing to watch out about las vegas is that you will encounter some **** girls, around 16-17. be careful here with that. i triple checked tatiana's cedula b/c since i was taking her home i did not want to get into a difficult situation if we happened to be stopped by the police.

i also checked out some clubs in the chapeniro area and that was okay. it was late so the pickings were slim.

i'm going to try to check out conrrado tonight. will report back more when i get a chance. i have three non-pros lined up for tonight as well - clearly i will only have time for one if i want to check out the p4p scene.

if anyone wants to try to connect with me before i leave, drop me a pm with your # and i'll drop you a line.

Bonhead,

What is perrico?

Thanks

Mel

[QUOTE=Mel365]Bonhead,

What is perrico?

Thanks

Mel[/QUOTE]

"White Lady"

White lady can be either coke or heroine? Which?

Thanks

Mel

It's perico (one r).

So I stopped by Santa Fe to see Tatiana again (can't get her out of my mind). Soon as I walked in, a few girls who recognized me said 'hi' and mentioned they would go get Tati for me. I sit down, order a beer and check out the action before she finally shows up about 10mins later. When she does finally come down she walks right by me without saying hello, and pretending she didnt see me. She did this 2-3 more times until I caught her looking at me and then she acts all excited to see me and comes over and sits down.

Now I didn't mention this before, but when I took her out two nights before, she and I had an amazing time. We spent hours talking almost abonding the idea of having sex alltogether because we had such an awesome connection on a friendship level and getting deep about our lives. We finally did end up having some really good sex, and she actually stayed with me 6 hours longer then the original 7am TLN agreed upon time. When I walk her out in the morning to catch a taxi, she at refused to take money from me (we had agreed to 120k for TLN) -- but I really insisted and put it in her pocket.

Anyway, we talked pretty intimately about how awesome the connection was and also how weird it was for her to actually like me and for me to like her especially since I really just wanted to have some NSA fun. Anyhow, I'm sure most of you can hear the Akon song 'I'm in love with a stripper' playing in the background right about now.

Anyhow, we have a decent time over the three hours that I'm there, dancing, talking about our other night together and how intense it was. It was pretty obvious we were going to leave together since she must have turned down about 6 guys saying she was with me. Clearly I'm heading down the sucker path here, LOL.

Some things she told me were quite schocking. First off, gringos will usually get overcharged if they have never seen you before, usually double the price. She also tole me that the club was stuck up by armed robbers after they closed this past Sat morning for about 30 million COP (karma is a *****, eh?). Tati also introduced me to the manager, who is gay. Here is where you want to brace yourselves. Tati tells me that a semi common thing she and some other girls do in cohorts with the manager when the manager likes a guy is get the guy drunk, spike his drink and then take up the guy to a room. When the guy passes out, the girl will then let the manager have his way with the guy and the manager will pay the girls 2-300kCOP! After that happens the girl will then get naked and fall asleep in the same bed... when the guy wakes up in the AM he will be none the wiser with a mean hangover and some soreness in his butt. She also admitted to me that she has robbed 2-3 guys in the past for 2-3 million COP and always by spiking their drink. This was usually when she was tipped by others in the club that the guys she is with has a lot of money on them. After that I joked with her several times about how I am gonna just drink just cola for the rest of the night cuz there is no way that manager and I are getting anymore acquanited.

Some other things she told me -- she pointed out one girl who works there who is only 13 (and looks it). That same 13yo is also crazy she said--having stabbed three other girls there, one in the face. Two other girls she pointed out were only 15. All her friends call her 'cheritos' (or something like that) which means curly haired cute girl.

Around 150am she tells me she is heading upstairs and will be right back -- I'm thinking great shes gonna go get her jacket so we can head out. Lights come on, I settle the bill (60kCOP) for a small bottle of caldas rum and three cervesas. Her friends come by asking where is cheritos? I tell them I'm looking for her too and wanted to leave. They bring me upstairs to find her but I'm asked to wait while they go find her. 10 mins later her best friend comes by and says sorry but that she will call me tomorrow. No explanation offered and I didnt ask at that point, feeling kind of dejected at that point. So I leave, head home alone and feeling like a chump. Odd because after over 12 years of mongering, Ive never felt like this. I think I'm probably taking this to heart a little bit only because I get TONS of non-pro action all the time, not just overseas, but especially back home in the States. Now here is a HOOKER that I get to see a different side of, and she rejects ME! WTF!

Well I leave back to home tomorrow--another overall great, eye opening trip to CO.

Oh -- one other thing, I had a solid 7.5 19yo non-pro that I was hanging with who was totally into me -- but I left her to go hang with the *****! What is wrong with me?!

'Perico' is coke

I tried to PM you, but I guess you new to the forum. Please pay the cheap annual dues and I can PM you with an some very important info.
WT69


[QUOTE=Gary Groundwork]'Perico' is coke[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mel365]White lady can be either coke or heroine? Which?

Thanks

Mel[/QUOTE]

Though if offered by you girlfriend's mother in the morning it's more likely to be scrambled eggs. At least given the mothers I've met. YMMV :)

Bonhead, welcome to life on planet Earth. I hope you like the taste of blood :P

I NEVER let my drink go unwatched in a bar, not even for 1/2 a second. And unless I trust the people there (and I don't trust easily) I order bottled beer and open the shit myself. I don't stop at Colombia, I will do this EVERYWHERE on Earth. It really is like that everywhere, it's just way more obvious in South America, probably because of the different company you are keeping down there.

[QUOTE=Bango Cheito]Bonhead, welcome to life on planet Earth. I hope you like the taste of blood :P

I NEVER let my drink go unwatched in a bar, not even for 1/2 a second. And unless I trust the people there (and I don't trust easily) I order bottled beer and open the shit myself. I don't stop at Colombia, I will do this EVERYWHERE on Earth. It really is like that everywhere, it's just way more obvious in South America, probably because of the different company you are keeping down there.[/QUOTE]I used to live across the street from a bar in Manhattan Beach, CA and was a long-time regular there. One night after consuming no more than three beers (45 minutes), I was roofied by a couple of chinese girls and some guy they were with. Apparantly, I was talking with them for 15 minutes or so and my GF coincidentally stopped by to come and bring me home. I don't remember talking to them, coming home, falling on a my coffee table or going to sleep. I woke up in an altered but cognizant state aware that something was not quite right. My GF was initially pissed that I was talking to these girls but later realized that I had been drugged. I was wearing a Rolex President at the time and I believe that was thier target. Needless to say, I never leave my drink unattended in the US or anywhere else for that matter.

Hi guys. I'm heading to Bogota for my first time and could use some help picking a hotel. I reserved at the Boheme in Zona Rosa, but then read some reviews that said that it was really noisy and recommended La Candelaria area. Can someone please advise me which area is best? And if Candelaria is best can you recommend a hotel or two? Greatly appreciated!

Doc

Candelaria is for budget tourists, these hotels are not chica friendly and you are far from the action.

Bonehead,

Do you have the number of Tatiana? I also want to know how much she charges for the hour?

[QUOTE=Doc Bill]Hi guys. I'm heading to Bogota for my first time and could use some help picking a hotel. I reserved at the Boheme in Zona Rosa, but then read some reviews that said that it was really noisy and recommended La Candelaria area. Can someone please advise me which area is best? And if Candelaria is best can you recommend a hotel or two? Greatly appreciated!

Doc[/QUOTE]Dude,

I stayed at the Boheme Royal in Zona Rosa in May-June for about a week and had no problems. My room was facing the mall and I heard no noise. I usually stayed out to. At latest 2am. There is a club next door, but, I think unless your room is on the wall toward the club, you should be okay. The hotel was in my opinion, in a perfect area. Sandwiched between two great malls, walking distance to 2 or 3 casas, nearby to Bogota Beer Company, and many other great clubs and restaurants. When I was there you had to pay $40 for a guest after 7pm and free before that. Of course, when I was in my room at night, I was either banging a girl, or too drunk and just passed out to sleep! I never tried the Parque 93 area, which I've heard good things about, but I think Boheme Royal (or maybe their sister hotel 1 street over. Andino Royal) is in a perfect location. All the people I talked to (Americans) who lived there, said that was like the best location they could have imagined. Just my 2 cents!

Rodeo

[QUOTE=Maito]Bonehead,

Do you have the number of Tatiana? I also want to know how much she charges for the hour?[/QUOTE]
sorry I do not have her number-she did not have a cellular and I was contacting her through her friend who did have a cell.

As far as how much she charges-I paid 120k for TLN. No clue about per hour as I tend to rarely ever go that route. But if you go see her at work, let us know how it went.

Just arrived in Bogota for the first time. Expect to stay about a week here. Got about 6 weeks in total to spend between here Medellin and Cartagena. Be great to hear from anyone who wants to team up with a fairly well preserved middle-aged guy.

I've been here for the last month and I've never seen it this slow. There's been a lot less girls at the bars, that wouldn't be bad, but the quality has also gone down. Slow. Slow. Slow. Maybe they're all in Panama.

I'm talking about the chapinero and centro bars.

[QUOTE=Mamey]I've been here for the last month and I've never seen it this slow. There's been a lot less girls at the bars, that wouldn't be bad, but the quality has also gone down. Slow. Slow. Slow. Maybe they're all in Panama.

I'm talking about the chapinero and centro bars.[/QUOTE]

They're all back at home with their families for the holidays. Everything should be back up and running probably a week or two after the New Year passes.

I tried to PM you, but I guess you new to the forum. Please pay the cheap annual dues and I can PM you with an some very important info.

WT69

Don't have a credit card. It got stolen.

Bonhead,

Where is Santa Fe?

The only Santa Fe I know is a centro commercial.

Somebody had mentioned this gay guy earlier. He's got a pretty succesfull track record having started "Las Paisas, " "Venus" and now taking over "Las Vegas. " I was there about a month ago and it was very busy.

Would not recommend anyways, open heavy drug use by everyone, crowd mostly late teens and most important, girls on the ugly side.

Finding a safe, well located hotel in Bogota at a decent price is not that easy. Recently, while there I stayed in one such hotel. It is called: Hotel La Sabana and is located in el centro. This is a small, fairly modern five storey building situated about 12 minutes walk from the Transmilenio. (Calle 22). It is safe, clean, has free Wi Fi and is only just over $30 per night. That said there are a couple of minor drawbacks. Firstly, if you want to take a girl back there is an additional charge (only $15). Secondly, although it has Wi Fi there is a filter in place which will stop you accessing any sex related sites (ISG included). While there I used the internet cafe directly opposite to access this site.

These points apart the hotel is good value for money.

Hotel La Sabana. Calle 23 No 5-23. Tel 284 4830.

[QUOTE=Mister Ecua]Hello everyone,

I have pretty much been lurking here on the Colombia reports for 3 weeks, I am finally on my way later on today. I didn't really want to post anything because I did not have any information to share, but after this weekend, I will have plenty.

A little about myself (I think everyone should do this to get a better feel on how their experience was and how another person can get a better understanding of how they can fall and share the same experience):

I'm 22 y/o, 6'2, half Ecuadorian half Dominican, a lot of people think I'm African American, live in the nation's capitol, speak spanglish and kind of shy :) Peru is my usual mongering spot, but I decided to check Colombia out.

I've pretty much read every page on Bogotá here and I am going to try to hit a lot of good places. I have already started by arranging dates from ladies online. A good place for you guys to check out is Hi5.com. Kind of like myspace.com but a lot of latinos from central and south america are on it, from all age ranges too! I sent out a shit load of messages, and got a pretty good response. I narrowed my picks down to 6 and I know I am going to have to cut that down because I'm only in Bogota for 3 days. I have one of them picking me up from the airport!

If anyone wants to hang out on Friday night, let me know, I'm definitely down for some tag teaming. Reports and pics to cum! I hope these ladies can handle a big slice of meat inside them!

Here of some pics of the ladies I have to narrow down.[/QUOTE]

What's up bro,

Wanted to ask you about Bogota and what I should check out there, I've been to Cartagena but I'm going to Bogota for 3 days with my brother then onto to Cartagena. How is it there? I'm 6'0,27 y/o ex-college football/track athlete and good looking from Cali but residing in the ATL (Visit DC on biz alot) and I've been to DR, Venezuela, Colombia, Puerto Rico, Trinidad, Belize, Costa Rica, Mexico so I'm familiar with the latin scene to a tee.

I fly for free on Delta so I just pay the taxes to fly internationally non-stop anywhere from ATL so I get out alot on the international scene usually once-twice per month. I see you've been to Peru also, that's a spot I need to check out as well!

I saw those chicas you got @ on Hi5! How did that turn out? I used to be on amigos real hard a few years back.

If you yahoo-playboysheed or aol-playboysheed hit me up so we can exchange some notes, who knows we might be in the same spot at the same time! Holla back.

[QUOTE=Gary Groundwork]Bonhead,

Where is Santa Fe?

The only Santa Fe I know is a centro commercial.[/QUOTE]

Santa Fe is a district, located east of Av Caracas I believe from 20-24 st's.

I will be in Bogota January 18-25.

Will anyone be there at that time?

Mel

I'll be in Bogota Jan. 15-19. Company would be welcome.

To Doc Bill:

I will be arriving at the same time period.

Meet me in Juan Pablo's Zhivago Bar after 11:00 pm on the 15th.

i tried to stay in the chapinero area for a change. i usualy stay in the north i wanted to see how safe it was to stay in chapinero. i'd stayed in [url]http://www.hotellourdes.com[/url]. i took the 7 day plan that cost me aronud 50k a day only problem they charge 25k for guest, it's gf friendly no questions but they will charge you. its safe and perfect location many places during day time just walk around during the day and they will give you pamflets of the places prices go from 20k up quality from average to very good i was very surprised. i could see that some of the girls where **** 15-17 years old but there where up to 30. i prefer to stay in chapinero instead of the north because its cheaper and quality more or less the same except that there are less girls with surgery but they seem to be younger in chapinero next time i will try santa fe and tell you about my experiences.

hey grobo,

what places did you visit in chapinero? i'm a frequent visitor of this sector, maybe we can compare notes. c ya.

[quote=grobo]i tried to stay in the chapinero area for a change. i usualy stay in the north i wanted to see how safe it was to stay in chapinero. i'd stayed in [url]http://www.hotellourdes.com[/url]. i took the 7 day plan that cost me aronud 50k a day only problem they charge 25k for guest, it's gf friendly no questions but they will charge you. its safe and perfect location many places during day time just walk around during the day and they will give you pamflets of the places prices go from 20k up quality from average to very good i was very surprised. i could see that some of the girls where **** 15-17 years old but there where up to 30. i prefer to stay in chapinero instead of the north because its cheaper and quality more or less the same except that there are less girls with surgery but they seem to be younger in chapinero next time i will try santa fe and tell you about my experiences.[/quote]

I am looking for an apartment in the Chapinero area to rent for a week, must be fully furnished with cable TV , and what have you. it is for July 18-25.

Hi,

Do you know if any airline company is doing Colombia to San Marteen or Aruba?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Dan619]Hi,

Do you know if any airline company is doing Colombia to San Marteen or Aruba?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Thisone will take care of you

[url]http://www.aires.com.co/Website/Default.aspx[/url]

Kukulkan

This is my report of few days of mongering in Colombia, both in Bogotá and Cartagena. See the Cartagena section for this part of my trip.

1) Introduction

Originally, I was traveling there to meet 5 chicas I had contacted on internet. I posted a review on this aspect in the General report section, but I thought it would be useful to mention it at this stage it because it has limited my mongering capacity.

As it has been mentioned earlier in this forum, Suites Real 85 is really a good option as an hotel. Because I was stucked with the first chica, I could only go to the massage parlour called Abejita (means "small bee") quite easily by pretending I was going outside to change currencies. In fact, it was quite fun to go out twice a day to fuck like if I was having an affair and cheating with my first boring date! But she did not really care of seeing me going out from time to time, since there was so little to exchange between us!

2) Abejita massage parlour ([url]www.abejita.com[/url])

The exact address is Cra 14 #79-23 and not the one indicated on their website. In his report #513, Gringo Mojado has given accurate directions from the Suites Real hotel except that the sign "massajes" must have disappeared, so you really need to read this forum to know where it is situated or google it. Just climb the stairs.

I was there at around 3pm. There were about 8 girls ranging from average to stunning. I often chose the ones who welcomed me. Sandra had a blond hair, nice attitude, manmade breasts. For a probably overpriced donation (180k), I got a basic service, but I enjoyed it because she was beautiful and I had not had sex for a week or so. Mariana was a more "trigena" (means darker skin) type of girl from Cali. Really stunning slim body with a B+ cup magnificent natural breast. Her service was much better than Sandra's (more complicity, more conversation) although DFK was not on the menu. I could hardly resist more than few minutes before coming even though I had a shot yesterday. After a few hours recharge, I came back and chose Isabella. Not the cutest of all but her face and attitude were so nice that I could not resist. She was really caring. Again, I came after 5 minutes of slow motions even though I had one shot earlier. With that poor performance, any GF would consider me as a bad lover, for sure!
Jessica is the tallest of all, implants, nice personality and good service but still I prefer Mariana.

As a conclusion, the girls are quite eager to satisfy you and Abejita is a good option for an afternoon quickly but do not expect high level quality service and it is probably not the best value for money.

2) The "Forty Nine"

Indeed a must in Bogotá. It is quite a classy club located at carera 13 and calle 49, 10-15 minutes from the Suites Real hotel with a cab. When you arrive the staff quickly brings you upstairs in this huge labyrinth to introduce you some of their girls, of course not necessarily the best looking ones. I chose one of them as a temporary companion and asked to go downstairs. I offered her a 32,000 pesos drink plus 10,000 propina, and after having a close look at all, fixed my attention to a petite girl from Santa Marta called Paula, natural C-cup breasts. We did a couple of dances and went downstairs for our business. Damage was 200,000, room included, but she was really active, gave me lots of DFK and made sure that I would get satisfied. Like in Cartagena there were only few siliconed tits girls there, but there were plenty of average, pretty and few stunning ones. The whole place is extremely well organized. It is just pricey, but compared to the rate I get in my homeland, still worth the try.

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Jan,

Abejita is really located in 14 and 84. This is the first and best one. You go down from Andino mall, straight on 82 until you reach carrera 14. Then you turn right, and on the second block you find the web page address. Just a sign, an open door, and stairs. Go upstairs and there you are. Receptionists are also working girls, some of them really beautiful.

The thing is they have several "associated" sites, the one in 79 being one of them. There is still one more, far north in Suba with 103.

Abejitas is, at least site wise, a regular massage parlour, a bit uncomofortable for my taste. But the girls are indeed astounding. At least some of them are in my high 8's and beyond. Had a great experience with brunette Ivonne, aka Camila.

You can also talk the girls into meeting outside after you know them. Longer, easier, in a decent bed.

Hello!

I am planning my sexvacation later this year in Bogota.

I am looking for a hotel close to the action in Santa Fe (Carrera 15-16 and Calle 23-24)
I have found a hotel, Charlie's Place Bed and Breakfast at Cra. 11A No. 106-82

Does anyone know how far it is from the Santa Fe action?

Charlies has a website and it is possible to book online wich is important for me.

Thanks,

Buttlover

Hi guys,

I've been here three days now, but I haven't posted yet because I have yet to participate in any P4P action. This is the first place that my preplanning internet dating really seems to be working. I had four girls "waiting for me, " one no-show, one I didn't like, and the other two are simply adorable. Now for a total of four days, two are plenty for me to juggle. I don't know how some of you guys handle more than that at one time!

Well, one, an absolute stunner, 31, dance teacher, I met last night and we were in bed together before midnight. It really takes a lot for me to want to actually sleep/spend the night with someone (I pay *****s to leave, not for sex), but I really enjoyed spending the whole night with her. The other one hasn't made it to my bed yet, but we're getting there and I have to tell you that I feel like a kid making up for what I didn't get in high school. I'm having a blast.

I'm staying at the Hotel Boheme, which I highly recommend. I read on this board that they charge a ridiculous amount for bringing a girl up, but I've never had anyone say a thing to me. I also walk in with a decently appearing woman and act like she's my wife coming upstairs with me, which I guess helps.

If yóu're interested in staying here first contact the reservations director directly, Hakeem Kahn, and just ask him for a special offer. It's amazing what you can get if you just ask. I'm getting a junior suite for what comes to about US$130 a night, a significant drop from their internet posted price of $170.

[QUOTE=ButtLover]Hello!

I am planning my sexvacation later this year in Bogota.

I am looking for a hotel close to the action in Santa Fe (Carrera 15-16 and Calle 23-24)

I have found a hotel, Charlie's Place Bed and Breakfast at Cra. 11A No. 106-82

Does anyone know how far it is from the Santa Fe action?

Charlies has a website and it is possible to book online wich is important for me.

Thanks,

Buttlover[/QUOTE]Charlie's is really far from Santa Fe. 90 blocks at least, which amounts to more than 6 miles. Better options are Tequendama, and San Francisco which is really close. Don't know if they are girl friendly though, or if they have a website. But 106 is really far, and taxis in Bogota are just not worth my trust. There has to be a better option.

[QUOTE=DoloresThomas]Charlie's is really far from Santa Fe. 90 blocks at least, which amounts to more than 6 miles. Better options are Tequendama, and San Francisco which is really close. Don't know if they are girl friendly though, or if they have a website. But 106 is really far, and taxis in Bogota are just not worth my trust. There has to be a better option.[/QUOTE]Hello,

Is it really 6 miles? ,i have found Cr 11A on a map now, and it is 15blocks or 1.5mile from Santa Fe RLD, i hope it is the right CR11a!

Tequendama hotel is very expensive 225USD/ night

My buget is
Chicas:150USD/day
Hotel:maximum. 80USD/night
Charlies has the right price for me

Thanks,

BL

[QUOTE=DoloresThomas]Charlie's is really far from Santa Fe. 90 blocks at least, which amounts to more than 6 miles. Better options are Tequendama, and San Francisco which is really close. Don't know if they are girl friendly though, or if they have a website. But 106 is really far, and taxis in Bogota are just not worth my trust. There has to be a better option.[/QUOTE]Crossing 100 is a real pita. If the price of the place is right, and you don't intend to travel at peak hours it could be worth it, but otherwise if you're gonna spend most of your day in S. Fe I'd look for something closer. Chapinero maybe?

This place is affiliated with a matrimonial service for gringos looking for latinas. I stayed there years ago and didn't like it. You couldn't bring women back to your room. It was a little loud, especially when parties were being held downstairs. There wasn't much of anything interesting in the neighborhood, like nightlife and good restaurants. The restaurant on premises sucked. I got a little annoyed with the other residents.- lots of American men who speak about 10 words of Spanish who came to Colombia to find their one true love in 10 days or less. The furnishings in the room were run down. It sticks in the back of my mind that it was cold.- maybe the heat wasn't working well in the room or no hot water.- it's been a long time so don't hold me to that. And the front desk was swamped catering to a large group of needy hotel guests, who had to get help with every little thing, so that when you need something simple sometimes it's hard to get.

[QUOTE=ButtLover]Charlies has the right price for me

Thanks,

BL[/QUOTE]

Bogota is a very easy city, addresswise. It is a grid. The mountains are the guide, forming a continuous line at the east end of the city. Paralell to the mountains (cerros), in descending order, are the carreras. The first one being "circunvalar" and then carrera 1, 2, and so forth. From the center north, perpendicular to those carreras, are the streets, or calles. A bit south from the original center (plaza de bolivar) is calle 1, and from then on, north, in ascendant order, 2, 3, and so forth, up to 200 or something like that. Nobody goes south (it would be interesting for someone to make this risky expedition) but in that direction streets start in "inverse" ascendant order also, with the suffix "Sur" (1 sur, 2 sur, and so on). Thus, when you find carrera 11 you find a long strip that goes north to south throughout the city. But since you are staying in 106 and Sta Fe is in 24, you would have to move in this line for the 6 miles I told you. Just like going straight on Broadway from Chinatown to Central Park. Far.

Chapinero is a good option, and I believe you can find a good cost / benefit relation for $80 in this area, much more central and with clean and decent hotels.

It's at least 6 miles. we're talking 90 blocks here, and traffic on that particular route can get BRUTAL during rush hours. Just stay in Chapinero or Candelaria.

[QUOTE=DoloresThomas]Charlie's is really far from Santa Fe. 90 blocks at least, which amounts to more than 6 miles. Better options are Tequendama, and San Francisco which is really close. Don't know if they are girl friendly though, or if they have a website. But 106 is really far, and taxis in Bogota are just not worth my trust. There has to be a better option.[/QUOTE]Thank you guys for the information !

One last question:

I have found a site were you can book Hotel San Francisco online
[url]http://www.colombiacontact.com/en_San-Francisco-de-Asis.html[/url]
Address: Cra. 10. No. 23-63 - Bogota

Can someone confirm that this is in Santa Fe, close to RLD district.

Best Regards,

ButtLover

Yes, San Francisco is really, really close to Santa Fe. Just a couple of blocks away. The prices are just right for your budget ($50 a night in a single room), and you won't have to pay cabs, so you'll have more chica money; it's so close you can just walk down. Be careful at night though. Walking alone late is not a very good idea in this area.

These places look fairly nice and not very expensive, near a lot of universities and about a 5 minute walk to Santa Fe. El Virrey should be no more than $40 usd with the other a little more expensive.

HOTEL EL VIRREY

Dirección CALLE 18 # 5 - 56

Teléfonos 3341150


Email [email]info@hotelelvirrey.co[/email]

HOTEL DEL PARQUE SUPERIOR

Dirección CRA 5 23 34

Teléfonos 3363600


Email [email]hotelparquesuperior@hotmail.com[/email]

do they have internet access at this hotel?

how close is it to zona rosa?

[quote=grobo]i tried to stay in the chapinero area for a change. i usualy stay in the north i wanted to see how safe it was to stay in chapinero. i'd stayed in [url]http://www.hotellourdes.com[/url]. i took the 7 day plan that cost me aronud 50k a day only problem they charge 25k for guest, it's gf friendly no questions but they will charge you. its safe and perfect location many places during day time just walk around during the day and they will give you pamflets of the places prices go from 20k up quality from average to very good i was very surprised. i could see that some of the girls where **** 15-17 years old but there where up to 30. i prefer to stay in chapinero instead of the north because its cheaper and quality more or less the same except that there are less girls with surgery but they seem to be younger in chapinero next time i will try santa fe and tell you about my experiences.[/quote]

Came across this in the avianca january magazine... can't personally vouch for the places however the website looks good and the prices are reasonable!

[url]http://www.viaggio.com.co/[/url]

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Day2,

I started with Sophia last sex for her on the island. I spent 4 hours with her as she did not want to work any more and had finished her contract. She said she was retiring. I was so turned on by the way she said incredible in such a sexy way. She wore me out.

Total sex sin condom.

We said our goodbyes and she asked did not ask or expect money, I gave her a few hundred as a gift for her new store. She called me her king and she treated me like one. We will definitely hook up in Medallin. .

Being exhausted I had to eat something. I entered the restaurant and had lunch with the wife of the owner of Carolinas and the Doctor that I had met at Defiance; I guess he does at least the 2 clubs medical inspections.

The doctor and I had met before at Defiance. Mi novia from Colombia “C” was getting sick from the whiskey that she had to get the clients to buy her or face a fine. We spoke at that time and he wrote her a note so she would not have to drink. He said then that “C” was an extremely wonderful person. When “C” and I left the doctor I said he was a very nice man she agreed that he was very kind to her. She also said he said she had an amazing pussi. Yeah ok.

Back in the present as soon I started talking to the doctor he asked how “C” is by name.

I was surprised he remembered her. I said that she was back in Bogotá and had retired. He asked if I had spoken to her. I told him that she is my novia and I visited her regularly. He said to me that I was a very luck man as she was a wonderful person and had the most incredible pussi he had ever seen. I don’t know how you can tell how great a woman’s pussi is by looking at it but I must say she has the best one I have ever been in.

Nice to have my opinion verified. Sophia had worn me out I had to go back to the boat to rest.

I went to Defiance in the early evening in search of the elusive Daisy. Upon entering I immediately ran into Lina who jumped in my lap and gave me a huge hug and a kiss. I apologized and said I was a dog and wanted another woman tonight. She took that surprisingly well and I headed off. I then went down the stairs to room 210 again looking for Daisy. The light was on and I knocked on the door lightly and she came to the door. Finally I encountered Daisy gave her a small pair of gold earrings for another ISG member Lovin Chicas. We sat on the bed and talked for quite a while. She has a very tranquil personality. We then got down to business she has some very good moves and I would do her again but she is not a 10 on my list in bed. But again it all has to do with chemistry. Nice face but not beautiful. We did get along well and I spent about 2 hours with her..

Back to Carolinas I entered restaurant and Alexa was there I noticed her golden eyes and said they look like the eyes of a tiger, she said the Bengal tiger was the most beautiful animal in the world BINGO!!! She was very happy with that . She wanted me to go with her but I said tomorrow. that was a great ice breaker.I said I would see her tomorrow.

6 hours total sex for the day good night Eileen.

More to follow.

Mel

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I will be in Bogota for a wedding the wekend before Easter. WAs wondering what is the p4p situation the week of Holy Week. Is it similar to the week leading to Christmas where there is a lack of ladies because they all go back to thier hometowns?

[QUOTE=Latino Fucker]I will be in Bogota for a wedding the wekend before Easter. WAs wondering what is the p4p situation the week of Holy Week. Is it similar to the week leading to Christmas where there is a lack of ladies because they all go back to thier hometowns?[/QUOTE]Hey amigo,

You may want to change your handle to Latina F. Unless of course you like the latinos.

[QUOTE=Latino Fucker]I will be in Bogota for a wedding the wekend before Easter. WAs wondering what is the p4p situation the week of Holy Week. Is it similar to the week leading to Christmas where there is a lack of ladies because they all go back to thier hometowns?[/QUOTE]IIRC its pretty dead.

Hey Guys,

I'm planning a trip this upcoming spring to Bogota for about 2-3 days before heading to Rio, and was wondering the best place for the most trip information. I looked back over the past years, but only got a little info. I'm going to Bogota to meet up with a girl I had a class with. While her family has invited me to stay with them, I feel I'm gonna need a little privacy if you know what I mean. I just have a few basic questions.

1. Apt. or Hotel?
2. Paper of Plastic?
3. Boxers or Briefs?

Thanks,

ryjer

Hi,

I like the dann carleton hotel on 103 street.

A little distance from the zona rosa. Not to far from park 93. Nice mongering area for non pros.

Mel

I am returning after a long absence to Bogota for a week before heading back to Cali. Could anyone update me on casas, the going rate, etc.

Thanks in advance

Is Dann Carlton Bogota Chica friendly. I know the Casa Dann Carlton does not allow unregistered guests after 9 pm (not even for an extra charge)

[QUOTE=Mel365]Hi,

I like the Dann Carleton Hotel on 103 street.

A little distance from the zona rosa. Not to far from park 93. Nice mongering area for non pros.

Mel[/QUOTE]

Thanks to World Travel 69 for great list and other posters for good info on Bogota.

I checked out several places during my 5 day trip, here is a short first report:

I would strongly recommend Santa Fe Red Light District: 10 stripclubs/brothels within walking distance.

I would not bother with any other area if you are only here for a couple of days.

Good security: lots of people on streets and several police officers and private security guards payed by the higher-end strip clubs. I am really gringo looking, had no problems, felt safe even late at night.

No entrance fees at any place.

2000-3500 or USD 1-2 for a local beer.

Good looking girls, GREAT value: 5-9s. most cost 30,000-60,000 for half hour in house. thats USD15-30 for some great looking, very sexy girls.

Big opportunity to talk/touch girls before fucking: many teases you, rub your cock, let you rub your cock against her ass, feel tits, kiss you before doing the deal, take opportunity of this!! :-)

sHOWS: many places have OK stripshows: full nudity, I even saw two shows where the girls sucked a guy from audience at stage, this happens at weekend nights at 12 I think.

How to get here: Just take a cab to any of the more famous strip clubs/brothels like El Castillo or La Piscina, most taxi drivers know them even without address. When you are there, all places are within walking distance/3 blocks

If you want some map references then: Carreras 13A and 13 - Calle 22/Avenida Caracas (close to TransMilenio bus station)

What club is best: I vistited most of the recommended places at this forum, but the clubs that I really enjoyed where not mentioned, I will go again tonight and get the exact names as I dont remember, they were all on the same street as La Paisa, I think Carrera 16:

These clubs were all really full of girls and guys....slightly lower objective quality compared to la piscina etc but they were more fun, sexy, horny and they cost less: 30-50K.

I am amazed that bogota dont get more monering travellers? Security seems to be OK/good now, I feel much safer here than in Rio.

Top end girls (8.5-10s) are lacking (they are probably in cartagena, panama city etc) but if you want 7-8s or even 9s for much cheaper than Cartagena, Panama City, Rio etc, come here! :-)

For the same experience/quality

Rio: USD90
Panama City: USD100
Cartagena: USD75
Bogota USD35

Bogota has a livelly red light district where you can have fun before you fuck, playing with the girls, drinking. I love this place!

I also love the fact that 97% of all Colombian chicas are totally shaved! When I was in Rio most had some hair left/landing strip. But I prefer it totally shaved / waxed. So I love Colombianas!

More detailed reporting to follow.

Thanks Wild, I will be on the ground soon for the first leg of my three month tour. Any and all photos and info is greatly appreciated. It was summer 2004 since I was last in Bogota. And that was for only two nights.

I had no problem bringing in chicas when I was staying at the hotel. I stayed there for a total of 4 weeks on 3 separate trips. I now have an apartment. The clerk at the front desk speaks great english tall bald headed guy. Just clear your plans with him. They will charge you 4000 pesos for additional security per guest per night. They only want to see her cedula. No problems for me. Just get pre authorized before leaving for the night. You can also get a pass to go to the other dann carleton on 93? Street to use their spa, gym, sauna, massage. And swimming pool. , there is also a small restaurant at the pool, the chicas really loved this.

Mel

I went to La Piscina this afternoon here in Bogota. I talked to a stunner who had only been there for a short time. She said she lived three hours a way, and planned on working for only a short time to raise some travel and living expense money before joining two of her friends from her home town who have found the "big Money" in Medellin. She said the tourists there, unlike here in Bogota or Cali, are paying mucho! Go figure! Wild was right on with his report here. Good old 55 bucks (100k) for TLN with a very nice 19yo spinner with no kids! Pictures, of course, to follow as soon as I move to my next city. I don't want any surprises! Some of you already have the pics in your email.

[QUOTE=Fantasy]I went to La Piscina this afternoon here in Bogota. I talked to a stunner who had only been there for a short time. She said she lived three hours a way, and planned on working for only a short time to raise some travel and living expense money before joining two of her friends from her home town who have found the "big Money" in Medellin. She said the tourists there, unlike here in Bogota or Cali, are paying mucho! Go figure! Wild was right on with his report here. Good old 55 bucks (100k) for TLN with a very nice 19yo spinner with no kids! Pictures, of course, to follow as soon as I move to my next city. I don't want any surprises! Some of you already have the pics in your email.[/QUOTE]Yep this is spot on. Mongering is way better/cheaper in Bogota and Cali. Too many suckers pay way too much and get sucked in and spend too much money on the girls in Medellin.

The list of Casas, nightclubs, etc found on this site is great. But it does seem a little overwhelming when you try to formulate your plan of attack. I have tried to find a map here that I could use as a guide to post for all of you. But they are all overwhelming as well. I think the best thing I can do is to create a map from scratch. For example the Santa Fe red light district is loaded with places in three square blocks. If you could simply tell a cab to take you to La Piscina for example, then pull out my pocket map that would show you where the others are located by point of reference instead of all these calle's and Carrera's, I think it would make many more comfortable. Although this list was compiled along time ago, it is amazingly accurate. But I am going to dramatically simplify it. And alot of the prices are too high, yes too high!

Again, I want to thank the author of this list. He did a ton of work to compile it. In regards to Bogota Mongering, I have never seen anything like the "Red Light District" Here. Location after location is loaded with hot talent. And soo freakin cheap!

This is without a doubt, the "Bangkok", of this Hemisphere.

I only have four days left here, and I have about 45 on my to do list!

[QUOTE=Fantasy] If you could simply tell a cab to take you to La Piscina for example, then pull out my pocket map that would show you where the others are located by point of reference instead of all these calle's and Carrera's, I think it would make many more comfortable.[/QUOTE]Would have to say that would on the top of my list of things not to do in zona rosa Santa Fe.

I am sitting here in Bogotá watching reruns of Barnaby Jones in Spanish, with a vanilla iced Dunkin Donut in one hand, and a smile on my face. I am going to be much more in detail about the night than I normally am to help you get a grasp on the scene here. Those who know me know that I never ramble like this. I apologize now for that. But I did use spell check for a change. I did not pay extra, just a regular "john" who popped in. I could not sleep, and the thought of going second to the likes of LaJazz, I decided to be punctual. I arrived at El Castillo, (which seems to have the highest quality talent in Santa Fe area (red light district), at about 7:45. I ordered a beer and within a few minutes Natty arrived at the bar and presented me with a kiss on the cheek. I told her I was sorry for acting a crazy last night and I would like to have a drink with her. She ordered a red bull. We sat for the rest of my beer, her holding my hand and talked. I felt a small urge from my V, which I had popped in the cab, so I gave her 130, 000 and said lets go. She said, oh no, you bought me a red bull so the room is only 20, 000 for an hour, and she handed me back 10, 000. Pinch me please! Arriving upstairs to a decent room with bath, TV music, a decent bed and one fuckin towel! Now I will cut to the chase, after nice foreplay, and very nice French kissing I ate her out. I felt rushed though and did not want to spend too much time. I did get her close, but no cigar. She then proceeded to a very nice BBBJ. I had to stop her, and looked at my phone. She said don't worry, the girl likes me and will give us an hour and a half! Pinch me please!

We fucked in every position imaginable and she loved doggie, we seemed to keep going back to it. Then she asks me if I minded if she had an orgasm now! Pinch me again! I said si, si, ahora! She got out of the bed went over to her backpack and I thought to myself, I guess she wants a dildo. But no, she pulled out a pair of honest to goodness nipple clamps. She put them on and tightened them till tears formed in her eyes, then she climbed on top of me and fucked the living hell out of me. I cannot remember when a girl has fucked me sooo hard. She came in about two minutes and I was right behind her. And I am not one to normally pull the trigger in the condom. I ask her for a photo with the nipple clamps and she said no nudity at all. I did get some pictures however. Some of you got them in your email, others will have to wait until I leave Bogotá, Sorry for that, but they are coming.

We returned downstairs to what looked like the Playboy Mansion. I could spend a full week fucking girls just here. On the way out she took my number. She said if you come back to see me, I will pay for the room! Pinch me again!

MY EXPENSES FOR THE NIGHT!!
Taxi there: 3,000
My beer: 4,000
Her red bull: 8,000
1.5 hours with her: 100,000
The room: 10,000
Tip for the room girl: 5,000
Taxi back: 4,000 (guy was a thief, 2 fuckin dollars)

Total expenditure: 134,000 pesos (at almost 1900 to 1) $70.53 (And two Donuts)
When you see the photos, I think all will agree, it was a very economical evening!!
I can’t wait for Tomorrow Night! So I won’t, it’s off to the “District” at Noon.

Fantasy, the one and only.

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Hi guys,

Good to be here. I've really enjoyed reading the reports, thanks. I'm new to Bogota and find it really overwelming to get around. The list seems great but is also overwelming. I only have a little time here so can't really go experimenting and am afraid to roam around too much as I have been warned it is dangerouse.

Can anyone make recomondations similer to what one can find in the buenos aires forum as to 4 or 5 top places to visit if you only have a short time in Bogota? For example in Buenos Aries I was recomended to go to Madahos, la Lopez, Blacks, Coco and a few others. I checked out quite a bit places in Buenos Aries and concure that thos would be my top recomondationd for a short time visit.

So, what would be 4 or 5 of the best places to visit for some p4p?

Also, where would be the best area to look around? I feel safest in zona rosa, but this last report about el castillo sounds great but I'm not sure how safe it is to walk around there.

Your help is appriciated.

I can relate to your dilemma. Tonight, (wed) I went out a bit later just to get a feel for the danger factor. Again I took a taxi to El Castillo about 9:45. I went in, had a beer and decided I wanted to walk around a bit. Outside were several military on every corner. I ask one what he thought about me walking around the area at this time alone. He told me that it would be safe in the two block area (which is well lit, and heavily patrolled. This meant I had access to about 8 good size niteclubs, all loaded with women. Lets remember where we are Bogota, Colombia!

That being said, I feel confident if you stay sober and put your safety first and foremost, that you can enjoy yourself here, even alone. I did visit Zona Rosa, Parque 93 and other areas, which were very nice, but for a short stay, it's Santa Fe, all the way!

The main thing to remember is never flag a cab at night. This is the biggest danger in Bogota right now, so I am told by the Tourist Police. They pick you up and take you to a planned intersection where two guys jump in and rob you. In many instances they take you to an atm at gun point and force you to get all you can for them. All you have to do is have the establishment you are in, call a secure cab for you. Even when I went to dinner at TGI Fridays in Parque 93, when I finished dinner I ask the hostess if the cabs parked out front were safe. She replied, absolutly not, and called one for me. If you guys only remember one thing about my posts here in Bogota, Remember not to jump in a passing cab at night, please!

I am happy to report that a 5'10" blonde Colombiana with one smokin body is now 70, 000 pesos richer! And it only took her one hour!

Fantasy. The one and only, reporting Live!

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Fantasy,

Thanks a lot for your advice. I will follow your advice. Ill check it out and report soon.So basically the quantity and quality is better in Santa Fe then in Zona Rosa?

Thanks again

One other quick question:

When is the best time to visit these places at Santa Fe?

When is there the best selction and best vibe?

[QUOTE=Jotting]Fantasy,

Thanks a lot for your advice. I will follow your advice. Ill check it out and report soon.So basically the quantity and quality is better in Santa Fe then in Zona Rosa?

Thanks again[/QUOTE]Zona Rosa is not a Red Light District, it's the main nightlife district of Bogota for the higher class.

Best time to visit Santa Fe is during nighttime, no matter which day of the week. There is action during the day, but it's slow.

After showing up at just before 8 pm and just before 10, the selection was much bigger early, with far fewer guys in the clubs. Also, who ever heard of the second and third men on the moon! Be the first! If I were you, I would plan on 8pm.

Great set of reports. You have done an excellent job on your first trip there, and solo at that. You even earned two Reports of Distinction nominations. Clearly a first for you. You have hit some real high quality stuff! Thanks for the private emails.

I appreciate your tip on the taxi situation. That is something I would not have thought of. I am very comfortable just grabbing a taxi anywhere in Medellin.

Good advice to Latino F**cker. Apparently he does not know who he is dealing with!

[QUOTE=Routard]Zona Rosa is not a Red Light District, it's the main nightlife district of Bogota for the higher class.

Best time to visit Santa Fe is during nighttime, no matter which day of the week. There is action during the day, but it's slow.[/QUOTE]But "night time" may be too vague of an answer for this area. In my Opinion, which really is worth nothing to anyone, Getting there before 9pm is a must. Especially if you want fairly "fresh meat". Most every place offers 20 minute sessions in house. Not for me, but I guess it opens up affordability to more locals. Most of these girls just are not as much fun after a half dozen 20 minute sessions. To each is own, but I like being first in, first out (for that given night anyway). I would imagine their are alot of others who would rather drink alot, and come in late at night. Good luck to these guys!! To each his own.

As far as Latino F goes, It just annoys me when someone who never supplies info has all the answers! I would imagine what he/she meant that looking at a map in a war zone is not wise. But most experienced mongers know that a pocket map is one you get aquainted with on the plane, and if your memory fails, you take a discreet look at it in the palm of your hand. It sure beats looking at house numbers or asking your would be attacker for directions.

Enough said, I take here and I try to give back. More than I can say for alot of others!

And by the way, keep those sweet ass photos from medellin coming, I will now and forever refer to you as Medellin Man!

[QUOTE=Fantasy]The main thing to remember is never flag a cab at night. This is the biggest danger in Bogota right now, so I am told by the Tourist Police. They pick you up and take you to a planned intersection where two guys jump in and rob you. In many instances they take you to an atm at gun point and force you to get all you can for them. All you have to do is have the establishment you are in, call a secure cab for you. Even when I went to dinner at TGI Fridays in Parque 93, when I finished dinner I ask the hostess if the cabs parked out front were safe. She replied, absolutly not, and called one for me. If you guys only remember one thing about my posts here in Bogota, Remember not to jump in a passing cab at night, please![/QUOTE]I know 3 blokes that this has happened to in the last 2/3 years.

Good advice bro.

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[QUOTE=Fantasy]I ask one what he thought about me walking around the area at this time alone. He told me that it would be safe in the two block area (which is well lit, and heavily patrolled.

That being said, I feel confident if you stay sober and put your safety first and foremost, that you can enjoy yourself here, even alone. [/QUOTE]I totally agree with fantasy on the safety, I spent 4 nights by myself, totally gringo looking, but confident and walking like I knew where I was going and I felt safe.

[QUOTE=Jotting]Can anyone make recomondations similer to what one can find in the buenos aires forum as to 4 or 5 top places to visit.... but this last report about el castillo sounds great but I'm not sure how safe it is to walk around there.

Your help is appriciated.[/QUOTE]I would go for santa fe red light district, take a cab to el castillo, walk around in that area, try piscina and some of the other clubs as there are all withing 1-3 minute walking distance and they have no cover you can just go in and check out the talent and just go to the next club if you don't like.

[QUOTE=Jotting]One other quick question:

When is the best time to visit these places at Santa Fe?

When is there the best selction and best vibe?[/QUOTE]Best Selection: 8-10PM

Best Vibe: 11-12PM on weekends (real party feeling)

[QUOTE=Fantasy]In regards to Bogota Mongering, I have never seen anything like the "Red Light District" Here. Location after location is loaded with hot talent. And soo freakin cheap!

This is without a doubt, the "Bangkok", of this Hemisphere.[/QUOTE]TOTALL AGREE with Fantasy, I have been to Rio, Buenos Aires, Bangkok, Madrid, Barcelona, Panama City Germany; which all gets a lot of attention......and Bogotas red light district is the best mongering area in my oppinion. the combination of:

Good looking, sexy girls

Girls that ENJOY sex

Low cost (of clubs, drinks, girls and the city in general)

Number of clubs in one area

Makes it the winner for me

Can someone with a knowledge of Bogota can tell me where the area:

Forests Of San Carlos / Bosques de San Carlos

is located & what the area is like in safety & attractions etc.

Many Thanks,

Liathain

Where is a good place to wait for someone inside the airport. I mean some kinda place where everyone regonizes without any complications? That is the international wing.

Thanks in advance

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I don't know what was deleted here, but it would be dishonest and even downright dangerous to not allow folks to point out that Bogota is not the safest city in the world, and that Santa Fe is not the safest part of that city. Not saying "don't go" -- though I would never go there unescorted -- but for god's sake keep your wits about ya.

[QUOTE=Viajero]Where is a good place to wait for someone inside the airport. I mean some kinda place where everyone regonizes without any complications? That is the international wing.

Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]There's no arrival's hall: just a mass of folks waiting outside. Not a great place to meet, but the only option if the arivee has a lot of luggage. If not, you could wait upstairs in departures in the restaurant area. There's a MuckDs there, though respect your body and wait on the tables outside it and eat somewhere else: the Asian place is always a good bet for good, cheap food.

[QUOTE=Viajero]Where is a good place to wait for someone inside the airport. I mean some kinda place where everyone regonizes without any complications? That is the international wing.

Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]The best airport meeting spot would be just as you come out of the El Dorado International Arrivals Terminal. You will have cleared customs & immigration and then you go past the money changing area. These is a glass wall of windows you pass through and you are now directly outside the terminal where everyone waits for those who are clearing International Arrivals. I have met up with a friend there previously.

It is the first place that the arriving passenger will actually pass out of the terminal and you will have the chance to meet up with someone. From there you can catch a taxi to town or to the domestic terminal: Puente Aereo Terminal.

Meeting point at Bogota El Dorado airport.

Maybe the taxi dispatch booth. It's just after you clear baggage claim. It's outside, which could be inconvenient if it's cold or raining. But it's a surefire place to meet.

The alternative is to pick a particular shop inside the terminal (eg in front of the Juan Valdez cafe). The only problem is that sometimes they check tickets and your friend(s) may not be permitted inside the terminal. It would probably be OK.. just something to keep in mind.

The cabs thing IS a real concern, but most of the time that sort of thing happens in the rich areas, the Zona Rosa and the Parque 93 areas specifically, and in general between Circunvalar and Autopista Norte and 72 to 100 streets.

I'd think it would be common sense NOT to take a cab just waiting outside a club anywhere on planet Earth. Bogota is not the safest NOR the most dangerous city that exists, it's somewhere in the middle IMO.

[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen]There's no arrival's hall: just a mass of folks waiting outside. Not a great place to meet, but the only option if the arivee has a lot of luggage. If not, you could wait upstairs in departures in the restaurant area. There's a MuckDs there, though respect your body and wait on the tables outside it and eat somewhere else: the Asian place is always a good bet for good, cheap food.[/QUOTE]Thanks Addicted, this is a great idea.

I will go upstairs and wait at McD's.

Forget McDonalds. Go wait at the El Corral and treat yourself to the best hamburger EVER while you're at it!

Any Gyms like Bally's type you could join in Bogota for a week or two? Has to have a swimming pool, whirlpool and work out area. And what do they charge for a membership? Week? Month? Preferably in Chapinero alto area, if not, anywhere near by

Thanks guys

[QUOTE=Bango Cheito]Forget McDonalds. Go wait at the El Corral and treat yourself to the best hamburger EVER while you're at it![/QUOTE]Is there an El Corral in El Dorado now?

[QUOTE=Viajero]Any Gyms like Bally's type you could join in Bogota for a week or two? Has to have a swimming pool, whirlpool and work out area. And what do they charge for a membership? Week? Month? Preferably in Chapinero alto area, if not, anywhere near by

Thanks guys[/QUOTE]There's one on K7 in Chapinero, maybe about 70? Just up from the supermarket iirc. Another big one on K15 at about 110.

I think they do "short time" ( :) ), but no idea of the price.

I arrive in Bogota at 9:30pm on Tusday and have 12 hours before I take my flight back to Newark for 10 am Wednesday. It will b my first time in Bogota..should I take the cab straight to Sante Fe and use him as my guide?

There will be any hotels around walkable distanc to the nightclubs right? If so, just name one so I can tell the cab to take me there.

Also, how much should I pay the cab to guide me in Bogota so I can stay safe?

Its worth the 7 hour flight just to party hard for a night right?

[QUOTE=Fantasy]The main thing to remember is never flag a cab at night. All you have to do is have the establishment you are in, call a secure cab for you. [/QUOTE]Fantasy,

Will they call one for you at el Castillo?

Nice reports BTW!

[QUOTE=Livefastdiehard]I arrive in Bogota at 9:30pm on Tusday and have 12 hours before I take my flight back to Newark for 10 am Wednesday. It will b my first time in Bogota..should I take the cab straight to Sante Fe and use him as my guide?

There will be any hotels around walkable distanc to the nightclubs right? If so, just name one so I can tell the cab to take me there.

Also, how much should I pay the cab to guide me in Bogota so I can stay safe?

Its worth the 7 hour flight just to party hard for a night right?[/QUOTE]No, it's a poor idea.

By the time you clear passport control and arrive in the city, it'll be 11pm. You only have a couple of good hours until the scene tails off.

Santa Fe is a dangerous spot. You may have to ask a series of cab drivers before you get one that will keep you company. The going rate for a cab per hour is 20k or a bit less.

There are hotels in that immediate area, but I doubt they'll meet you expectations. They may or may not have hot water.

[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen]Is there an El Corral in El Dorado now?[/QUOTE]Yes.

Viajero... google "bodytech" and maybe "bogota" with it. I posted a link but it got zapped.

I'm not the right guy to answer most of your questions, but I'll say Hotel San Francisco seems to be mentioned the most as a decent hotel near the Santa Fe action.

Are you flying from Newark to Bogota just for one night of mongering? If yes, then I admire your effort, but aren't you concerned any flight delay will really screw things-up.? It really doesn't seem worth the effort for just one night in Bogota IMHO.

I have a general Bogota question. Can anyone compare the scene in Bogota to Cali and Medellin in terms of cost, quality, and quantity of action? I've been to Cali and Medellin numerous times, but never Bogota. I think I'm done with Medellin and would like to replace it with Bogota.

Fellas,

Hey, I'm looking to make a return trip to Bogota (search my last report in June/July timeframe) after sampling Panama City and Dom Rep. Looking at the May-June time frame for 10-14 days. Was planning to stay in Zona Rosa as last time, but am considering Santa Fe as it seems to have made a resurgence in recommendations on this board. As a novice spanish speaker though, should I still stay in Zona Rosa and just taxi out to Santa Fe district to hobby?

Also, I noticed that the exchange rate is at about 1800pesos/dollar. That is about 200 pesos different than last year at the same time I'm planning to travel. Have regular travelers felt that difference in your hobbying? I definitely don't want to pay more than 150k for a TLN, but, I'm opening up more to a short time on the premises as an cheaper option.

I was trying to hold out for Medellin with some of my friends, but they wussed out and I don't want to go alone, plus it seems a little more overpriced.

Looking forward to words of wisdom to aid in my planning. BTW, I looked at this forum all the way back to September, so, I have a good idea of what's been said, which has been really helpful.

Rodeo

[QUOTE=Bango Cheito]Yes.

Viajero... google "bodytech" and maybe "bogota" with it. I posted a link but it got zapped.[/QUOTE]Thanks Bango but Bodytech is just for working out. It has no pool or whirlpool

Is there anyone out there that can connect me with a reliable driver during my stay in Bogota. I am meeting some new chicas met over the internet and want to be sure that I am in control of where we are going at all times. Please PM if possible as well.

Thank you!

[QUOTE=Kdog]I have a general Bogota question. Can anyone compare the scene in Bogota to Cali and Medellin in terms of cost, quality, and quantity of action? I've been to Cali and Medellin numerous times, but never Bogota. I think I'm done with Medellin and would like to replace it with Bogota.[/QUOTE]IMO Bogota is by far the best for mongering...quantity, quality and prices. Cali is maybe the cheapest. Medellin is by far the most expensive and overated IMO.

[quote=livefastdiehard]i arrive in bogota at 9:30pm on tusday and have 12 hours before i take my flight back to newark for 10 am wednesday. it will b my first time in bogota..should i take the cab straight to sante fe and use him as my guide?

there will be any hotels around walkable distanc to the nightclubs right? if so, just name one so i can tell the cab to take me there.

also, how much should i pay the cab to guide me in bogota so i can stay safe?

its worth the 7 hour flight just to party hard for a night right?[/quote]damn, that's pretty crazy! also remember you've got to be back at the airport no later than 8 am, the airport is busy in the morning, and security might check you out more carefully both in bogota and newark when they see you were in the country only one short night. if they ask you why, what will you tell them? :)

you might not have to pay for a night at a hotel. you only need to bring a small carry-on with a change of clothing and some toiletries, that will also help speed things up when airport security checks you inside out, lol! just sleep as much as you can on the plane both ways, session and break night in the clubs.

some places may close early but i remember walking out of "la forty-nine" (on calle 49 and carrera 13) around 5:30 am and it was still going strong although this was a saturday morning not a wednesday.

worst case scenario (the clubs close early) take a girl out to a love motel, there's one near the airport called coconito. look in the bogota lists section for info on it. there should be some love motels in the sante fe area but i don't know specific ones. another web site i know mentioned hotel el dorado on calle 15 and carrera 4 as a place you can rent rooms by the hour in addition to nightly; that's in the candelaria neighborhood just south of santa fe, although in your case, if you're going to go love motel, i think your best bet is the one closest to the airport for obvious reasons.

just one disclaimer, i haven't been to these motels so i can't honestly vouch for them. call them in advance if you can speak spanish. in my trip to bog, i stayed at suites real 85 (very guest-friendly) for almost a week but that's not really a love motel, although one night my neighbor had his action going at the same time i was! :)

can't speak for the santa fe area, but if you go to "la forty-nine" they will take care of you there, although that spot is more expensive. the security guys/hosts are looking for tips but the one that helped me seemed like a decent fellow, i think his name was wilson; but pretty much any of those guys working there will assist you, escort you to an atm, etc.; just give them a 20k tip at the end of the night.

what's nice is the place has a little of everything. i remember having a great colombian style ajiaco soup there at 3 in the morning with my buddy, they have a small kitchen working all night; in-house rooms are the usual, just a bed and a cold shower.

don't bring more than one credit card with you just in case (god forbid) you end up in a paseo millonario. when you walk out of luggage claim at el dorado airport, go upstairs to where the atms are and take out 400-500k, that should be more than enough for the night. again, can't speak for other venues but you can use your credit card for everything at "la forty-nine" although the girls prefer cash of course.

my advice would be go to forty-nine instead of santa fe, session with a girl or two and if you like one, take her out to coconito although you'll have to pay a hefty multa. there are two "forty-nine" clubs right next to each other. the one i went to is the first one as you walk south on carrera 13, not the second door a few yards further.

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[QUOTE=Livefastdiehard]

Its worth the 7 hour flight just to party hard for a night right?[/QUOTE]You must be kidding? :-) I have been raving about Bogota but you must be crazy to spend that money and time that for only one night.

In total you would spend over 25 hours of your time in transit and lotsa $$ for the ticket.

[QUOTE=Phunluv]Just one disclaimer, I haven't been to these motels so I can't honestly vouch for them. [/QUOTE]I use them all the time, around the airport, up the autopista, and up near Santa Barbara. The quality varies, but they're all good.

FFS, don't stay in Santa Fe. You gotta death wish or something? Why not just head to the Mansion and blow your wad on some overpriced pussy but in a safe classy place. If you're really gonna pay all that money to get there a few more k on pussy won't even be noticed.

[QUOTE=Viajero]Thanks Bango but Bodytech is just for working out. It has no pool or whirlpool[/QUOTE]I don't do gyms, but I think the one on k18 at 112, or thereabouts might have. A swimming pool might be really pushing it though. Hotel maybe?

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If you open a account with citibank. You can use your ATM card and get better than 2,000 pesos to the dollar. At any Citibank ATM in Bogota.

Mel

There is a very nice Pool and gym as well as a sauna and massage available at the Dann Carleton on i think calle 93 there is no pool at the Dann carleton on 103 calle.

Mel

[QUOTE=Mel365]If you open a account with citibank. You can use your ATM card and get better than 2,000 pesos to the dollar. At any Citibank ATM in Bogota.

Mel[/QUOTE]Still? That's amazing! citibank are not know for their generosity!

Greetings,

I have stayed in Bogota for 4 weeks now, but except last time I did not monger for the simple reason that I had imported 2 Peruvian girls for some nice threesomes. Many of you will say that bringing foreign girls to Colombia is madness, but I had good time. Still, after one week of well deserved rest I was ready to try the Santa Fe block. I am lucky to have a business colleague who has some experience and a car. So this report is for the newbies like me who had little idea of what to expect: The famous El Castillo, Dollhouse and Piscina are impossible to miss. There is good and polite security before allowing you inside. I staid at the El Castillo, which is big and gloomy. In my view, it is not a nice, pleasant place. There are many girls available, who will suggest you the cheap COP 80, 000 ($ 45) price, but for a very miserable 20 minutes. This is not what I like, I want a full night – find a friendly, good-humoured and well-behaved girl, chat, cuddle a bit, and have a few sex sessions. I was suggested then some ridiculous prices of COP 100, 000 for "la multa" (barfine) + COP 300, 000 for the girl. So I left. And now I give you what I think is a very good tip: Talk to the boy of the parking lot just in front of the El Castillo. He will introduce you with some girls from El Castillo and Dollhouse who are ready to go out. I gave a price of COP 200, 000 (US$ 120) for the whole night, everything included. He introduced me to 3. OK, they were more in 5 to 6 scale, not like some models in the bars. I selected one of them, we agreed for COP 250, 000 – no tip, no game, until the morning, OK? She asked me to pay in advance so she could give the multa to the bar – I usually don’t like it, but here the girl went back to Dollhouse, and came back after 1 minute, ready to go. COP 10, 000 ($ 6) tip to the boy who was very pleased and there we go. It is better than having to pay a drink to each girl you propose.

The girl was quite good, as I wanted. One of her girl-friends was a pain in calling her five times to leave me and join her, but as promised, she said no and turned off the phone. No game, no money stolen, 3 sessions, clean, cuddling, charming, good conversation and she is no stupid as she study accounting. Only problem is that she would do only cover blow job, no bare-back blow job.

Ah, I forgot: she was snoring all night. Difficult to sleep.

So remember: the parking lot.

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Anyone know of the bars and clubs where they have the girl oil wrestling fights?

[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen]Still? That's amazing! citibank are not know for their generosity![/QUOTE]Now THAT is good intel!

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Fellas,

Hey, I'm looking to make a return trip to Bogota (search my last report in June/July timeframe) after sampling Panama City and Dom Rep. Looking at the May-June time frame for 10-14 days. Was planning to stay in Zona Rosa as last time, but am considering Santa Fe as it seems to have made a resurgence in recommendations on this board. As a novice spanish speaker though, should I still stay in Zona Rosa and just taxi out to Santa Fe district to hobby?

Also, I noticed that the exchange rate is at about 1800pesos/dollar. That is about 200 pesos different than last year at the same time I'm planning to travel. Have regular travelers felt that difference in your hobbying? I definitely don't want to pay more than 150k for a TLN, but, I'm opening up more to a short time on the premises as an cheaper option.

I was trying to hold out for Medellin with some of my friends, but they wussed out and I don't want to go alone, plus it seems a little more overpriced.

Looking forward to words of wisdom to aid in my planning. BTW, I looked at this forum all the way back to September, so, I have a good idea of what's been said, which has been really helpful.

Rodeo[/QUOTE]Bump. Inputs?

Rodeo

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Bump. Inputs?

Rodeo[/QUOTE]I think staying in S Fe is only slightly more insane than going there solo. But I believe I'm alone in thinking that so knock yourself out.

You know there are other options for hotels apart from these two locations? Check out the messages for other options.

And don't neglect the massajistas. For this tight-wad they offer better value for your p4p dollar than many other options.

You should not even think about staying in Santa Fe. Forget about it! I stayed downtown, but would not even do that again. Stay in Zona Rosa, and cab it to "the district".

Hey, I hear there is a demand for tank drivers in Quito!

Today I went to the Colombian Visa agency which is next to the Embassy of Holland here in Bogota on 93 street. The purpose of my visit was to get my Cedula renewed. I was with my novia from Bogota. Across the street is a photocopy shop, I entered and was waiting while my novia ordered copies. On my right I saw the ass end of a couple of very cute Columbianas. They were filling out papers. The only reason these chicas would be here was to get a visa to work on one of the Dutch islands. I tried to see the faces of the chicas since one had a memorable figure. She turned to look at me and –WHAT THE FUCK--- it was my novia from Pereira. I knew she was going to Aruba to work in 10 days and I was going to visit with her. I put my finger over my lips and she turned back around. What a close call. I still need to explain what I was doing in Colombia as she thought I was still in the USA. What the hell of the chances of that happening. This gives a new meaning to CHICA MANAGEMENT

Mel

[QUOTE=Fantasy]You should not even think about staying in Santa Fe. Forget about it! I stayed downtown, but would not even do that again. [/QUOTE]I stayed in Candelaria district and liked it: nice area with universities, museums, restaurants, coffeeshops, sights. A 20 min walk from santa fe red light district.

[QUOTE=Wiild]I stayed in Candelaria district and liked it: nice area with universities, museums, restaurants, coffeeshops, sights. A 20 min walk from santa fe red light district.[/QUOTE]I like Candelaria very much too, and there are some great classical (expensive) hotels there. But it is not safe at night -- I've had friends mugged at knife point there.

It wouldn't stop me staying at some of those hotels though, if I could afford 'em.

I solved the problem.

I just made up a logical story which was accepted.

I will be visiting with her later this month in Aruba.

She is really crazy for me. she even changed her e-mail address last year to the same as mine.

Thanks for the suggestion.

Mel

I was in Bogota for a weekend about 3 weeks ago and stayed at Hotel Charlies. The room ran me about $70 a night and it included free internet and breakfast. The rooms were not too bad and the hotel staff were very friendly and helpful. They did not charge me extra or taking my novia to my room every night. I took a cab to most places but it was not far from the hot spots. I would stay there again.

[url]http://www.hotelcharlies.com/[/url]

Ok –I have just finished spending 8 days with mi Novia in Bogota and 3 ½ days with her sister together. I kissed mi novia goodbye at the entrance to immigration after having a wonderful morning of adios for a while sex.. Incidentally the airport is under Major construction.

I figured what the heck, I am on a flight to Curacao, with an overnight layover to ST Martin. So I figure there must be at least one chica at the departure gate that is going to work. I look for a young Columbiana with a lot of carry on etc. After cruising the seating area I spot a very very cute chica about 28 years old, nice size silicone tits, braces, tight jeans and a slightly revealing blouse with some cheap jewelry. I sit down across from her and say hello. Then where are you going? She says ST Martin—I ask is she knows a person at Carolinas named **** the owner. She looks surprised and asks how I knew where she was going and how did I know ****. I said that a beautiful woman such as your self must be going to Carolinas as only the prettiest girls in Colombia worked there.

And that the owner was a personal friend. She really though that my friendship with the owner would help her there. I said I would speak to him about her .We chatted for about 45 minutes. When we boarded I said I would try to get to the back of the plane to talk to her as I found her very interesting to talk to. Fortunately the plane was not very full. I walked to the rear and asked the person in the adjoining seat if they would mind moving.

He agreed . we continued to talk and I invited her to the boat when she arrived. She said she would have to talk to the owner of Carolinas if she could check in later in the day.

We talked some more, and both wound up in the lavatory for my first 30, 000 mile high blow job. Getting into the lav was easy. When we left we got snagged by a flight attendant, I just smiled at her and she winked back.

When we arrived in Curacao I was thinking of taking her to Campo and doing a threesome with my campo Novia, but I thought she had a lot of luggage and It might screw up my relationship with my Campo chica. So I told her I was staying with friends and said I would see her at 5 an in the airport. I rented a Car and spent the night 6 Pm to 4:45 Am at campo. It’s almost the cost of a good hotel Room.

My Columbiana is sitting next to me here at the Airport in Curacao waiting for the ticket counter to open.

Lets see what happens next. That’s sex with 3 different women in 2 countries and an airplane in less than 24 hours

Mel

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[QUOTE=Mel365]Ok –I have just finished spending 8 days with mi Novia in Bogota and 3 ½ days with her sister together. I kissed mi novia goodbye at the entrance to immigration after having a wonderful morning of adios for a while sex. Incidentally the airport is under Major construction.

I figured what the heck, I am on a flight to Curacao, with an overnight layover to ST Martin. So I figure there must be at least one chica at the departure gate that is going to work. I look for a young Columbiana with a lot of carry on etc. After cruising the seating area I spot a very very cute chica about 28 years old, nice size silicone tits, braces, tight jeans and a slightly revealing blouse with some cheap jewelry. I sit down across from her and say hello. Then where are you going? She says ST Martin—I ask is she knows a person at Carolinas named **** the owner. She looks surprised and asks how I knew where she was going and how did I know ****. I said that a beautiful woman such as your self must be going to Carolinas as only the prettiest girls in Colombia worked there.

And that the owner was a personal friend. She really though that my friendship with the owner would help her there. I said I would speak to him about her. We chatted for about 45 minutes. When we boarded I said I would try to get to the back of the plane to talk to her as I found her very interesting to talk to. Fortunately the plane was not very full. I walked to the rear and asked the person in the adjoining seat if they would mind moving.

He agreed. We continued to talk and I invited her to the boat when she arrived. She said she would have to talk to the owner of Carolinas if she could check in later in the day.

We talked some more, and both wound up in the lavatory for my first 30, 000 mile high blow job. Getting into the lav was easy. When we left we got snagged by a flight attendant, I just smiled at her and she winked back.

When we arrived in Curacao I was thinking of taking her to Campo and doing a threesome with my campo Novia, but I thought she had a lot of luggage and It might screw up my relationship with my Campo chica. So I told her I was staying with friends and said I would see her at 5 an in the airport. I rented a Car and spent the night 6 Pm to 4:45 Am at campo. It’s almost the cost of a good hotel Room.

My Columbiana is sitting next to me here at the Airport in Curacao waiting for the ticket counter to open.

Lets see what happens next. That’s sex with 3 different women in 2 countries and an airplane in less than 24 hours

Mel

LOL. Great story. Nice work. Mate I agther you speak very good spanish. Yeah?

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You can find the girls (and many trannies! ) in Santa Fe, which is east of Av Caracas and around Calles 22-24. It is the Transmilenio Stop Calle 22. Just get off the bus, walk towards the centro and then on the right hand side you can see the girls already standing in the doorways of their houses.

I was walking there in the afternoon and it was quite safe, or at least I felt safe, but I would never go there in at night! Some girls/ trannies were aggressive and tried to pull me into their doorways, some lowered their top and showed their titts. Since I was alone and had my camera equipment with me I didn’t investigate further. And I would only do it with a back-up. Waiting outside for me to return.

Only a few of the girls were really doable in my opinion. The rest old and fat!

Cheers!

I planned my fun around easter weekend, please shoot me now!

This place is dead, I have been here over 30 times for work so I know th places, but I have a bad feeling that they will all be closed. Anyone have any experience finding tang in Bogota on Easter day or weekend?

If not please send me a beautiful contact that I can take out for the night.

Thanks bros.

[QUOTE=Marines]I planned my fun around easter weekend, please shoot me now!

This place is dead, I have been here over 30 times for work so I know th places, but I have a bad feeling that they will all be closed. Anyone have any experience finding tang in Bogota on Easter day or weekend?

If not please send me a beautiful contact that I can take out for the night.

Thanks bros.[/QUOTE]Easter's always dead. Pick up an El Tiempo and try calling a few of the agencies listed in the back?

Mate Bogota is the most happening city in Colombia. You fucked up, because everybody leaves for Easter Weekend. I mean everybody.

Wait untill next weekend it will be back to it's normal happening self.

I guess I am too late to help out. I have alot of digits for Bogota. PM me if things don't turn around for you.

[QUOTE=Marines]I planned my fun around easter weekend, please shoot me now!

This place is dead, I have been here over 30 times for work so I know th places, but I have a bad feeling that they will all be closed. Anyone have any experience finding tang in Bogota on Easter day or weekend?

If not please send me a beautiful contact that I can take out for the night.

Thanks bros.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen]I like Candelaria very much too, and there are some great classical (expensive) hotels there. But it is not safe at night -- I've had friends mugged at knife point there.

It wouldn't stop me staying at some of those hotels though, if I could afford 'em.[/QUOTE]Agree on safety, after 9PM I used taxis. But as I was a tourist at day time, this area was the best for me, could walk to sights at daytime, walk over to santa fe in the afternoon for an afternoon quickie, then walk back. Walk to santa fe around 8PM again for the night and then can back to hotel in the morning.

[QUOTE=Mel365]When we arrived in Curacao I was thinking of taking her to Campo and doing a threesome with my campo Novia, but I thought she had a lot of luggage and It might screw up my relationship with my Campo chica. [/QUOTE]I doubt you can bring a girl in Campo as guest.

During my strolls through Bogota I found these 2 spots. There were some guys at the TransMilenio Stops that handout little flyers with the addresses. TransMilenio Stop Calle 76!

1. Pasarella Show, Av. 13 (Av. Caracas), No 73-28, 2ndo piso

On the flyer they promote 30 bailarinas but when I was there (was the Thursday before the Easter weekend) only 8 chicas were there! All young and doable! The perform a strip on a stage. Beer costs 3. 000 Pesos. Rooms are available. Cost for 20 minutes was 30. 000 Pesos! Chose a beautiful morena. 20yo and her name was Angie!

But: she didn't allow DFK nor DATY and also didn't want to perform a CBJ. I think she knows that she is the star of this club. ! So I just f**ed her. I will post some pictures soon!

2. Just 2 houses next to Pasarella: Clapton Bar y Wiskeria, Av. 13 (Caracas), No 73-46 just a seedy bar with some girls. When I was there 5 girls were available, but not that beautiful. Beer was 3. 000 Pesos, a girl and room was 27. 000 pesos for 27 minutes (don't ask me why they have these odd numbers). Chose 26yo Esmeralda (una negra). I will post some pictures soon!

Cheers,

Dars Veider

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I have been living in Bogota more than a Year. I have been to mongering places all over Europe (like the Yab Yum in Amsterdam) USA and Mexico.

I have to say that one of the main reasons of choosing to live in Bogota is the quality of the girls.

I have always sticked to la Piscina and la Piscina de Dia, El castillo all of them in Barrio Santa Fe. I have also been To Bar Shivago aka. Juan Pablo Karaoke, lancaster in zona rosa.

I read a post here about "las paisas" so I decided to venture There. Since Girls From Medellin are very sexy looking and their accents drive me wild I tought I would have a great Time there. MAYOR Dissapointment.

"Las Paisas" Is 3 Blocks west From the 22 transmilenio station. I went There on February 22nd at 11 pm. I went there by car I usually park at "la Piscina's " Parking Lot, I asked for advice to the parking guy about walking in the zone at that night and he sayed that thieves were all arround the block and told me to be careful. I walked the 2 blocks and I can confirm that lots of people were there mostly drunk but I saw no problemes.

Upon arrival to "Las Paisas" I was Forced to pay 5 000 Pesos as a bar cover charge wich included a national Beer. It was Very Crowded with a 20 male to female ratio. Most of the people were lower class drunk workers wich made the ambient not so nice. And the Worst part is that the quality of girls was a huge dissapointment. There were like 15 girls all of them rankin 2 to 4. I saw only one 7.

I have to say there was no place to sit and the music was lousy, so I stayed there less than 10 minutes and decided to go to "La Piscina" that never dissapoints me.

Stick to la Piscina. Is the best in Santa Fe.

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Hi!

I was in Bogota for Easter Sunday and the Place was DEAD! Las Paisas, La Piscina, Lac Cster all were closed.

So I decided to go to Zona Rosa to see non pros but everything waS closed.

In Carrera 15 and 94 I found a street Walker. She went in my car and she made me do a wrong turn. Unfortunatelly police men were behind me so I was Asked to pull over.

I am Mexican Living in Colombia but I have no Cedula de Extranjeria, so the cops asked for my drivers license, Mexican I. D and the Cars documents.

They asked us to get out of the car and then She street walker was recognised by them. I thought I was Busted and Fucked, but to my Surprise she sayed: I was the one that told him to to the wrong turn. He is with me. The cops evidently knew she was street walker and after finding nothing bad with me or the car they let us go with out any ticket or problem!

Man Bogota is really Coke friendly, hooker friendly and tourist Friendly.

I have never had such good luck with law enforcement in any other part of the World.

Visit Bogota and youll have a blast.

You weren't breaking any laws, besides the wrong turn. Prostitution is LEGAL there.

LOL, this is Colombia, dude. :) Prostitution is LEGAL! You didn't do anything wrong.

Most important thing, you had all your documents with you and in order, that's why the cops were cool with you. One time, me and my Colombian buddy were coming back from a night of clubbing in Chia and he drove us back to the city like an old lady because he didn't have his cedula with him. He has a very nice car too, so he knew he would draw attention.

Do NOT drink and drive, that will get you into huge trouble! I know a traffic cop in Bogota and that is definitely something they are cracking down on big time. They also occasionally crack down on the "piques" i.e., street racing that occurs in certain isolated carreras way up north in the city. Other people told me about these crackdowns as well, not just the cop.

They probably just stopped you to check if you were drunk. I doubt they were looking for drugs, but as a foreigner, I would be a bit careful about that. Hookers shouldn't be any problem at all, as long as the girl in your car is at least 18 of course!

I have been to Bogota a haf a dozen times (for work) and my favorite place to find a chica is Juan Pablo/Shivago. I like this place because the girls are not so agressive, one can always find a nice girl, the environment is very "normal" and the only option is to take them back to your hotel. (I don't like places where they have rooms).

Is Juan Pablo the only bar in Bogota with this style?

I have not been there in 6+ months, has anything changed? Is it still good?

First off, I absolutely do not support paedophiles and paedophilia. I want that to be absolutely clear.

that being said, I've been hearing from a couple of sources that the age of consent in Colombia is either 12 or 14, depending on who you talk to. Is this actually correct? Out of curiousity I checked out an age of consent site and it said 14, but I have seen a number of people refer to 18 as the age of consent.

Since I tend to prefer women in their mid 20's, after they've gained some experience and skills, this is unlikely to be an issue for me, but I do admit to being curious about the issue, and if this is true it might take out some of the uncertainty for me around some chicas that I might be attracted to. As it is now I automatically discount women who might be questionable of around 18-19 yrs, but generally speaking it would be much easier to distinguish between a 19 yr old and a 14 yr old, ID or not.

Still, I definitely advocate being sure of the age of the girl you're with. That's just common sense. Nobody wants to rot in a South American prison! :)

[QUOTE=Talion]that being said, I've been hearing from a couple of sources that the age of consent in Colombia is either 12 or 14, depending on who you talk to. Is this actually correct? Out of curiousity I checked out an age of consent site and it said 14, but I have seen a number of people refer to 18 as the age of consent.[/QUOTE]If you're paying for it, then she's gotta be 18, that's both Colombian and U.S. law. [In any case, I think very few people would buy the idea of a foreigner having a 14/15 year old gf.] Be careful, as guys here have reported noticing minors working in certain bars in the Santa Fe red-light district.

It's 14 but it's 18 if you are paying for it. Which means as a foreigner you better stick with 18 and up unless you are seriously planning to marry the girl!

That's good to know. In any case I always ask to see ID from anyone that I think might be questionable in the age department. It's amazing how mature or how old some teenagers can look after having been around the block a few times and all made up.

Better safe than sorry! That's not something I want to play around with at all.

One more question. With respect to ID will the local authorities accept a copy of your passport? For example when I'm in CR I get a card-sized laminated copy of my passport that I carry around with me as ID that's accepted everywhere, provided it also has the entry visa page as well. Makes a nice wallet-sized two-sided ID, and I get to leave my actual passport locked up in a safe, where it never comes out until it's time to leave for home.

Will the Colombians accept a copy of the passport or must I carry the real thing around? If a copy is acceptable do you require the copy of the entry stamp or just the main details?

Thanks again.

Its 18.

14 only applies if her partner is within a few years of her age.

[QUOTE=Talion]One more question. With respect to ID will the local authorities accept a copy of your passport? For example when I'm in CR I get a card-sized laminated copy of my passport that I carry around with me as ID that's accepted everywhere, provided it also has the entry visa page as well. Makes a nice wallet-sized two-sided ID, and I get to leave my actual passport locked up in a safe, where it never comes out until it's time to leave for home.

Will the Colombians accept a copy of the passport or must I carry the real thing around? If a copy is acceptable do you require the copy of the entry stamp or just the main details?

Thanks again.[/QUOTE]I have only ever been asked to produce id once: when travelling on inter-municipal buses. I can think of no earthly reason why you would risk carrying it with you otherwise.

I suggest a copy would do just fine.

for a number of reasons, i hadn't been to the mezzanine at cra 15/cll. 104 for probably more than a year. happened to pass by today and decided to check out the massage parlors. they no longer have the guy loitering around on the landing, so that's a plus. as i was headed back towards #9 (abadesa's), i happened to see natalia and her pretty eyes peeping out at me from #10, so i went into that storefront. turns out that not only natalia was there, but also the famous bridgith, and three other young and very do-able girls. since i had had only one session with natalia, i wanted to pick her, but she seemed intent on referring me to the other girls. so my natural choice was bridgith. amazingly enough, she remembered me even though, as i said, it's been more than a year. bridgith delivered a great session. she likes to dance, and will dance and grind against you, even when you are in fs. bridgith told me that she had gotten fed up with some of the management practices next door, so she and some other girls had decided to pick up and leave. costs are 30k/hj, 40k/bj, 60k/"hour" with fs. not a bad option if you don't mind the tight quarters and the distraction of being able to hear other clients and the chatter of the girls outside the cubicles.

Does anyone know of short time hotels in Zona Rosa for guys that might be staying with someone not so into the mongering thing or a girl-unfriendly hotel.

Rodeo

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Does anyone know of short time hotels in Zona Rosa for guys that might be staying with someone not so into the mongering thing or a girl-unfriendly hotel.

Rodeo[/QUOTE]There's some motels down in Chapinero. Can't vouch for 'em though.

[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen]I have only ever been asked to produce id once: when travelling on inter-municipal buses. I can think of no earthly reason why you would risk carrying it with you otherwise.

I suggest a copy would do just fine.[/QUOTE]A friend of mine had to pay off a police office USD 200 once as he did not carry a passport. It was not in Bogota though. After that I started carry a copy of my passport. Not sure if that actually will help if you get stopped by a police officer who really only wanna make some money.

My spanish is fair and getting better.

I write instant messages to my friends for about 2 hours nightly.

Have fun,

Mel

[QUOTE=Wiild]A friend of mine had to pay off a police office USD 200 once as he did not carry a passport. It was not in Bogota though. After that I started carry a copy of my passport. Not sure if that actually will help if you get stopped by a police officer who really only wanna make some money.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure either. I never stray far from my passport just in case, but neither do I carry it with me when I can leave it in a safe. If a usd 200 fine every so often might be the price of that it sounds like money well spent, though a trip to the police complaints office next to Andino mall would be my next stop "pour encourage les autres" or, more appropriately perhaps, décourager les autres.

I'd advise every tourist never to walk around with their passport. Only comes out for official business, i.e. air travel, military roadstops, in-branch banking, cellular phone offices, etc., then goes right back into a secure location/compartment. A clear passport copy should suffice any other situation, along with a driver's license.

I'd call local police on it if they insist on the actual passport.

You'd be much much better off losing a driver's license abroad, than having to go thru the dry assfuck of obtaining another passport at the US Embassy in Bogota.

Don't carry your passport. If you lose it, it could be quite a nightmare of a situation. Especially do NOT carry your passport if you're vacationing outside of Bogota. Should you lose it, I think your only recourse is the U.S. embassy in Bogota.

Make 2 laminated copies of your passport and always carry one of them with you. Leave your passport in your safe or hidden/secured somewhere in your room / apartment.

Hi!!

I saw the Post from Novio recomending this place. When arrived I was surprised to see the small massage parlor. If you go to abejitas or one relax they are huge in comparison. The locale only has one light, therefore the division beetween the 2 massages beds is made by a walll that does not touch the ceiling, so everything can be heared.

There were 4 girls. Natalia, Daniela, Marisela and Bridget. I was looking for bridget but she was bussy with another client.

So I chose Daniela a Very cute lil spinner. Lovelly face, She is about 5 foot tall nice perky tits, a cute tight ass. I payed 60k for massage and FS. The massage was so, so. The session was nice. Since the massage bed is in a tigh cubicule I could only do her cowgirl style. She got loud and I was please that she enjoyed it.

I told daniela about the site and she allowed me to take a picture of her back.

I would recomend this massage parlor. Look fot the messanine 10, I made a mistake while entering and I checked out mesanine 9, there were lower class girls but very honest, caouse when I asked about Bridgitte and Natalia they sayed they did not worked there and let me get out.

i'll be in bogota april 9-12 and i'm doing a little research on the crime. i'm familiar with cali and medellin and know how to stay out of trouble while in those cities. but to be honest, bogota scares me a little. i found the text below on wikipedia in their description of a drug used in robberies. they seem to focus on bogota. has any run into this while mongering in bogota (or other colombian cities)?

from wikipedia: "in recent years the criminal use of scopolamine has become an epidemic. approximately fifty percent of emergency room admissions for poisoning in bogotá have been attributed to scopolamine.[5]

victims of this crime are often admitted to a hospital in police custody, under the assumption that the patient is experiencing a psychotic episode. a telltale sign is a fever accompanied by a lack of sweat.

scopolamine is used criminally as a date [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] drug and as an aid to robbery,[6] the most common act being the clandestine drugging of a victim's drink[7]. it is preferred because it induces retrograde amnesia, or an inability to recall events prior to its administration or during the time of intoxication.

a nine part series on the drug, also known as "colombian devil's breath", can be found on vbs.tv."

Not me, but a couple of people I know. YES watch your drink. And don't be fooled that it's just in Bogota. It's all over Colombia and has been used in neighboring nations too.

In general, Bogota is quite a bit safer than Medellin and MUCH safer than Cali but it's still not Disneyland.

Whilst out mongering, no. But ffs watch your drinks in bars: they should be served out of sealed bottles and NEVER left unattended, even when you go to the can.

The problem is reputed to get worse in the run up to xmas as economic pressure grows on the poor to respond to advertiser's demands.

(50% of cases in emergency rooms? I don't believe that for a moment.)

[quote=kdog]i'll be in bogota april 9-12 and i'm doing a little research on the crime. i'm familiar with cali and medellin and know how to stay out of trouble while in those cities. but to be honest, bogota scares me a little. i found the text below on wikipedia in their description of a drug used in robberies. they seem to focus on bogota. has any run into this while mongering in bogota (or other colombian cities)?

from wikipedia: "in recent years the criminal use of scopolamine has become an epidemic. approximately fifty percent of emergency room admissions for poisoning in bogotá have been attributed to scopolamine.[5]

victims of this crime are often admitted to a hospital in police custody, under the assumption that the patient is experiencing a psychotic episode. a telltale sign is a fever accompanied by a lack of sweat.

scopolamine is used criminally as a date [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] drug and as an aid to robbery,[6] the most common act being the clandestine drugging of a victim's drink[7]. it is preferred because it induces retrograde amnesia, or an inability to recall events prior to its administration or during the time of intoxication.

a nine part series on the drug, also known as "colombian devil's breath", can be found on vbs.tv."[/quote]i haven't met anyone personally that was administered this, but i did speak with quite a few girls that said this is not uncommon, especially if they get a heads up that the guy has a lot of a cash (or access to a lot of cash).

one girl even admitted to me that she did this to two guys and was able to score quite a bit off of both. the bouncers at the club were in on the take and gave her the heads up.

[quote=kdog]i'll be in bogota april 9-12 and i'm doing a little research on the crime. i'm familiar with cali and medellin and know how to stay out of trouble while in those cities. but to be honest, bogota scares me a little. i found the text below on wikipedia in their description of a drug used in robberies. they seem to focus on bogota. has any run into this while mongering in bogota (or other colombian cities)?

from wikipedia: "in recent years the criminal use of scopolamine has become an epidemic. approximately fifty percent of emergency room admissions for poisoning in bogotá have been attributed to scopolamine.[5]

victims of this crime are often admitted to a hospital in police custody, under the assumption that the patient is experiencing a psychotic episode. a telltale sign is a fever accompanied by a lack of sweat.

scopolamine is used criminally as a date [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] drug and as an aid to robbery,[6] the most common act being the clandestine drugging of a victim's drink[7]. it is preferred because it induces retrograde amnesia, or an inability to recall events prior to its administration or during the time of intoxication.

a nine part series on the drug, also known as "colombian devil's breath", can be found on vbs.tv."[/quote]haven't heard of any instances personally yet in colombia but let me take this opportunity to relate a horror story from mexico to reinforce to the community to be on guard for it anywhere.

my brother's colleague's son and d'-in-law went on honeymoon to guadalajara. both mature 25 year olds with some spanish ability. they decided to take in some local culture and so went off the beaten path to some local cantina and both got scoped. the criminals made an incision under the boy's arm and bled him out a predetermined amount in order to incapacitate him.

the old man gets a call from some people in mexico telling him that they "found" his boy and that they want to "help" but that it will cost $25,000 to do so. before it was all over and the boy and girl were home the final amount paid was $30,000. besides the psychological scars that both must carry, the criminals nicked a nerve when they made the incision so he has some permanent nerve damage manifested in his lower arm & hand.

i don't know all the details and like most experienced latin america travelers i was skeptical of the circumstances but still, it happened.

i also remember a post on this forum from a dude who related the story of how he got scoped in a bar in san diego, ca. he said it was by some overly friendly girls and that he was wearing an expensive rolex. luckily, his girlfriend went looking for him and found him before anything really bad happened.

moral of the story: be on guard for it anywhere. drink soda or beer from bottles. don't let drinks out of your sight. especially when alone or with unknowns.

schwmm

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[quote=kdog]i'll be in bogota april 9-12 and i'm doing a little research on the crime. i'm familiar with cali and medellin and know how to stay out of trouble while in those cities. but to be honest, bogota scares me a little. i found the text below on wikipedia in their description of a drug used in robberies. they seem to focus on bogota. has any run into this while mongering in bogota (or other colombian cities)?

from wikipedia: "in recent years the criminal use of scopolamine has become an epidemic. approximately fifty percent of emergency room admissions for poisoning in bogotá have been attributed to scopolamine.[5]

victims of this crime are often admitted to a hospital in police custody, under the assumption that the patient is experiencing a psychotic episode. a telltale sign is a fever accompanied by a lack of sweat.

scopolamine is used criminally as a date [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] drug and as an aid to robbery,[6] the most common act being the clandestine drugging of a victim's drink[7]. it is preferred because it induces retrograde amnesia, or an inability to recall events prior to its administration or during the time of intoxication.

a nine part series on the drug, also known as "colombian devil's breath", can be found on vbs.tv."[/quote]regarding the mexico story: i meant puerto vallarta, not guadalajara. having run around between the 2 cities myself about 20 years ago, i got the two mixed up. the discos in guadalajara were great back then! :)

schwmm

Gentlemen,

I have an 11.5 hour layover in BOG from 10 a.m. to 9:25 p.m. I have not been to Colombia, but I'd like to get out and have a quick sampling of what Colombia has to offer. After researching the boards, I've found that I should have enough time to do this given my layover, and that this is relatively common.

My questions are these:

1) Will I have to bring all of my luggage with me, or can I check my checked luggage before heading out?

2) I would like to session with one chica and have dinner at a nice restaurant during my time there. Can anyone recommend where I should go? (It's in the middle of the week.)

3) Ideally, I would like to find a driver to hang out with me that afternoon, take me to/from the airport, and to/from wherever I go outside. Any ideas what this will run, and can you recommend anyone?

Thanks guys.

[quote=kdog]i'll be in bogota april 9-12 and i'm doing a little research on the crime. i'm familiar with cali and medellin and know how to stay out of trouble while in those cities. but to be honest, bogota scares me a little. i found the text below on wikipedia in their description of a drug used in robberies. they seem to focus on bogota. has any run into this while mongering in bogota (or other colombian cities)?

from wikipedia: "in recent years the criminal use of scopolamine has become an epidemic. approximately fifty percent of emergency room admissions for poisoning in bogotá have been attributed to scopolamine.[5]

victims of this crime are often admitted to a hospital in police custody, under the assumption that the patient is experiencing a psychotic episode. a telltale sign is a fever accompanied by a lack of sweat.

scopolamine is used criminally as a date [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] drug and as an aid to robbery,[6] the most common act being the clandestine drugging of a victim's drink[7]. it is preferred because it induces retrograde amnesia, or an inability to recall events prior to its administration or during the time of intoxication.

a nine part series on the drug, also known as "colombian devil's breath", can be found on vbs.tv."[/quote]happened to a friend of mine. he woke up the next day in a car park with nothing left. he had been drinking a fair bit and wandered off on his own. you just got to be smart and keep your wits about you! use common sense.

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Colombia
[quote]The rise of the cocaine tourist

Colombia is emerging from its troubled past to become one of the hottest destinations in South America. But for a growing minority, its most famous product is becoming the main draw, says Vicky Baker
Vicky Baker
guardian.co.uk, Tuesday April 1 2008 Article history

Some tourists are still drawn to Colombia's cocaine reputation. Photograph: Mark Read/Corbis

"I've lost weight since I've been in Colombia. It must be all the drugs," says the American backpacker, loudly, seeming to put special emphasis on the last word to make sure everyone in the Bogota hostel's common room can hear. "That, and the sex."

"2, 4, 6, 8, who do we appreciate? Cocaine!" retorts his new-found English compadre, much to the bafflement of onlookers.

It's 6pm on a Saturday and the pair, with a Swede in tow, are getting ready to go out into Bogata and score. Five minutes ago, it was a hostel scene like any other the world over: travellers congregating to eat dinner, swap tips, catch up on emails. Now it's taken a surreal turn and become Nathan Barley does Colombia.

It's hardly shocking that some travellers in Colombia can't resist trying the country's most famous product, but it seems the drug is becoming a tourist attraction in itself. Just as you try steak in Argentina and caipirinhas in Brazil; in Colombia, you sample the coke.

Backpackers are doing lines in their dorms, signing up to visit cocaine factories, and word is going round that somewhere in San Augustin lies a place where you can make your own. Meanwhile, the six-day trek to the Ciudad Perdida (one of the country's most talked about trips) often includes a photo stop at a "cocaine factory". It may be little more than a table, set up for the benefit of tourists, but that, in itself, seems to further distance travellers from the serious reality of the country's problems.

"It was hilarious," one Mancunian backpacker said after his visit to the makeshift factory. "Just like Blue Peter. I kept expecting them to say, 'Here's one we made earlier'." After the demonstration of the initial pulping process, the group had a chance to smoke the drug. "It wasn't great stuff," he said, "but you could feel it."

A few years ago, only the most intrepid travellers would add Colombia to their South American itinerary; now it's the most talked about destination on the continent. Most visits to Colombia are, as the Foreign Office says, trouble-free. Most are drug-free, too, except perhaps for the caffeine in the spectacular Zona Cafetera region, or perhaps a shot of local firewater, Aguardiente, in the hip bars and restaurants of Bogota or Medellin.

However, for a growing minority, it's the country's dangerous reputation that has become the attraction, with these travellers seeming intent on pushing boundaries to get good stories to email home. ("The FARC are nearby? Cool!" I heard an Irish backpacker say.)

German Escobar (presumably no relation to the country's infamous late druglord) has run a hostel in Bogota for 15 years. The homepage of his website features a prominent plea asking travellers not to do drugs in his home country and to be aware of the trouble they are causing. ("If not for your own well-being, we would encourage you to refrain from supporting violence against the Colombian people by purchasing cocaine.") German says this generally filters out the biggest users, the majority of travellers are respectful and he loves his job, but he has still seen his fair share of problems over the years.

"The type of traveller coming to Colombia is changing," he says. "When we first started, it was like a family. It was a high-risk destination so there was solidarity among travellers. Now, a lot more people are here just to party."

German has some horrifying stories of travellers whose touristic dabblings have turned into something much darker. There was an English girl who became a user and then a dealer, before running up huge debts "with the type of people you don't mess around with". "She came back to visit the hostel one day very high, threatening to kill herself, and I had to wrestle the knife off her in the kitchen," he says. Tragically, at the end of last year, a 22-year-old British male, high on drugs, followed through with his threat.

Blood, drugs and death is exactly the image Colombia is trying to get away from. The government is making a concerted effort to try to clean up its international reputation (with the help of Blur-bassist-turned-cheese-farmer Alex James) and the tourism board has a direct, new slogan, "Colombia: the only risk is wanting to stay".

Unfortunately, try as they might to get people to reassess this beautiful but complicated country, some backpackers seem intent on making their own risks.[/quote]

[QUOTE=Smokers Rule]Gentlemen,

I have an 11.5 hour layover in BOG from 10 a.m. to 9:25 p.m. I have not been to Colombia, but I'd like to get out and have a quick sampling of what Colombia has to offer. After researching the boards, I've found that I should have enough time to do this given my layover, and that this is relatively common.

My questions are these:

1) Will I have to bring all of my luggage with me, or can I check my checked luggage before heading out?[/QUOTE]Are you able to have your checked luggage marked for your final destination? You sound as if your stop-over in BOG is for a connecting flight. I would have my checked bags marked for my final destination and then all you are responsible for is your carryon.

I have actually never had a connecting flight in another country. I assumed it was like when you enter the U. S. And you have to pick up your bags and re-check them (a la Miami). This sounds much better.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Hlover]Travel,

Colombia[/QUOTE]Who cares bro. I am not trying to flame you at all but who really cares. The reason we travel is to get away from the rule prison of the states. I dont care what others do with their free time. Makes me no never mind. leave the PC crap to lannity and holmes or whatever.

Esmeralda 26 yo

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[post]724202[/post]

[QUOTE=Hlover]Travel,

Colombia[/QUOTE]Thanks for the post. Good article.

[QUOTE=Charlie Horse]Are you able to have your checked luggage marked for your final destination? You sound as if your stop-over in BOG is for a connecting flight. I would have my checked bags marked for my final destination and then all you are responsible for is your carryon.[/QUOTE]I always reckon I've got lucky when they turn up at all. I wouldn't push my luck like this.

[QUOTE=Jose Lima]Who cares bro. I am not trying to flame you at all but who really cares. The reason we travel is to get away from the rule prison of the states. I dont care what others do with their free time. Makes me no never mind. leave the PC crap to lannity and holmes or whatever.[/QUOTE]Up to you, but *I* care about Colombia and Colombians and supporting the FARC in this way.

But hey, you just go party and don't worry about it.

[QUOTE=Dars Veider]Esmeralda 26 yo

See my report

Bogota

[post]724202[/post][/QUOTE]She's a hotty Dars. Did she want anything extra for the photos?

[QUOTE=Jose Lima]Who cares bro. I am not trying to flame you at all but who really cares. The reason we travel is to get away from the rule prison of the states. I dont care what others do with their free time. Makes me no never mind. leave the PC crap to lannity and holmes or whatever.[/QUOTE]Bro,

The point was not about pc stuff. As stated fyi -- possible alternative activities which for some mongers is part of the sex scene.

Chill bro

Can anyone offer ideas on some dating sites where I can start chatting up some beautiful Colombianas? I'm headed there (Bogota) in June and want to get started. I remember reading a couple of threads about someone strategy, but, I can't seem to find them anymore. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Rodeo

Started at La Piscina in Santa Fe at around midnight. I was hoping to find some stunners who hadn't made their money for the night. Unfortunately it was mainly the dregs. I like the "hooker with a heart of gold" type and these were just burnt out hookers. The ticket here is that you must go early to these clubs. The hot girls take 2 or 3 dicks and then leave.

Headed up to the famous Whiskeria at 49 but was disappointed. These girls were either hardcore *****s or nervous newbies. No chemistry, had a beer and headed to the chica-bar next door.

This bar had mainly younger girls ranging from 4's - 8.5's depending on your taste. 5,000 pesos for a beer. 70,000 pesos for a bottle of cheap local rum, ice bucket & 2 glasses BUT once you buy it you get to use the on-site room for only 15,000 pesos. I told the waiter to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off on the rum until I had a girl. As everyone knows, you must have game to get a good girl in Colombia. I started joking with 4 girls at the table next to me and after about 45 minutes a nice dark skinned girl invited herself over. THe funny thing is, she had been sitting with her back to me and I didn't realize how big her tits were. Colombia has the Patent on huge juicy tits with big nipples, I was in heaven.

She wanted 80k pesos for an hour - I knew it was too much but since I was trying to get rid of my pesos & it was already 3am I said fuck it.

Those of you who know, KNOW - the usual grade -AAA 18 year old passionate GFE followed. She was a dynamo and threw her pussy at my dick like her life depended on it. After we were done, I thought she would just leave and find her next mark but she insisted on sitting with me for another hour telling me about her life and snuggling e.t.c. The thing is, she knew she wasn't getting another penny out of me but we had a real emotional connection.

That is why Colombia & Colombian women are the ultimate experience. Incredible physical beauty, passion & intimacy for less.

Spare not the rod brothers!

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[QUOTE=Ratbutt]She wanted 80k pesos for an hour - I knew it was too much but since I was trying to get rid of my pesos & it was already 3am I said fuck it. [/QUOTE]80k/hr seems ok to me.

I'm staying at the Crowne Plaza which is actually walking distance from the Santa Fe action, although I don't recommend walking at night. I arrived at the hotel at 9pm and went to La Piscina at around 10pm.

I sat down and watched a cute spinner for about 10 minutes. Nobody was approaching her, but they were taking her friends to the room. That should have been a signal. I invited her for a drink. Her name was Alejandra. She didn't seem too friendly at first, but warmed up a little. We negotiate for BBBJ and DFK for a 40 mil tip. I paid the 100 mil for the room and off we went. When I get to the room, she insists on a 100 mil tip and was acting very skiddish. I realized this wasn't going to be a GFE at that point, and I got dressed and left. She was fairlly surprised and asked me to come back. I went to the payment desk and asked for a refund. We negotiated for a while and they ended up giving me 60 mil back which was fine with me.

I checked out numerous other bars. Most had no cover and cheap beer. Mostly fun/friendlly girls, but nobody caught my eye for a couple hours. Finally, I ended up at a very small bar with only a couple girls, but they were cute. I wish I remembered the name of the club. I took one for 20 mil (house fee) with a negotiated 60 mil tip for her. She was the opposite of Alejandra. A total GFE and didn't ask for the tip before or even after. I left the tip money on the bed while she was dressing and wished her well.

I've been to Cali and Medellin many times, but at this point, I find Bogota has more to offer for mongers. Most people say the women are from Cali and Medellin are more beautiful, but I haven't noticed a significant difference. Granted, a lot of the beautiful women I've met in Bogota were orginally from Cali or Medellin. I like the weather more in Bogota than I thought I would. It's not a cool as I was expecting. Very cloudy though. I haven't noticed a difference in cost. The airport is much closer to the city (20 mil for taxi) than in Cali and Medellin.

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[QUOTE=Kdog]I've been to Cali and Medellin many times, but at this point, I find Bogota has more to offer for mongers. Most people say the women are from Cali and Medellin are more beautiful, but I haven't noticed a significant difference. Granted, a lot of the beautiful women I've met in Bogota were orginally from Cali or Medellin. I like the weather more in Bogota than I thought I would. It's not a cool as I was expecting. Very cloudy though. I haven't noticed a difference in cost. The airport is much closer to the city (20 mil for taxi) than in Cali and Medellin.[/QUOTE]This is exactly right, and the girls in Bog are half the price of those in Medellin.

[QUOTE=Kdog]I'm staying at the Crowne Plaza which is actually walking distance from the Santa Fe action, although I don't recommend walking at night. I arrived at the hotel at 9pm and went to La Piscina at around 10pm.

I sat down and watched a cute spinner for about 10 minutes. Nobody was approaching her, but they were taking her friends to the room. That should have been a signal. I invited her for a drink. Her name was Alejandra. She didn't seem too friendly at first, but warmed up a little. We negotiate for BBBJ and DFK for a 40 mil tip. I paid the 100 mil for the room and off we went. When I get to the room, she insists on a 100 mil tip and was acting very skiddish. I realized this wasn't going to be a GFE at that point, and I got dressed and left. She was fairlly surprised and asked me to come back. I went to the payment desk and asked for a refund. We negotiated for a while and they ended up giving me 60 mil back which was fine with me.

I checked out numerous other bars. Most had no cover and cheap beer. Mostly fun/friendlly girls, but nobody caught my eye for a couple hours. Finally, I ended up at a very small bar with only a couple girls, but they were cute. I wish I remembered the name of the club. I took one for 20 mil (house fee) with a negotiated 60 mil tip for her. She was the opposite of Alejandra. A total GFE and didn't ask for the tip before or even after. I left the tip money on the bed while she was dressing and wished her well.

I've been to Cali and Medellin many times, but at this point, I find Bogota has more to offer for mongers. Most people say the women are from Cali and Medellin are more beautiful, but I haven't noticed a significant difference. Granted, a lot of the beautiful women I've met in Bogota were orginally from Cali or Medellin. I like the weather more in Bogota than I thought I would. It's not a cool as I was expecting. Very cloudy though. I haven't noticed a difference in cost. The airport is much closer to the city (20 mil for taxi) than in Cali and Medellin.[/QUOTE]Glad you had a good time in Sante Fe. It does stand out in Colombia.

Not sure where you got this "house fee" from. In Sante Fe, outside of the minimum cover charges to enter a few places, there's only one fee. What you pay for a session. The house fee comes out of that. At La Piscina, maximum, 70.000 pesos, and that's to the top chicks. Anything more, and you're getting fleeced.

Tips???? Yeah right. No need to ask me. The chicas are very indifferent and spend a lot of time with them. And most of the chicas, if comfortable, are still very GFE. Money alone doesn't make them comfortable.

El Castillo should run you no more than 70.000-80.000 pesos per session on site. There is no separate fee for the room in either place.

The other places in Sante Fe should run you no more than 50.000 pesos at most on site. Most of the other places go between 25.000-35.000 pesos. House fee included. IF you decide to give a tip, do not mention to her at all. She'll play you for a mark. Just give 5.000 pesos, or offer to buy her a drink (Red Bull) later.

Again, this isn't a knock. Just information from someone very experienced down there. Don't get taken.

I've done as much research as I could searching the forum. Looks like I want to play in the Santa Fe area but stay elsewhere. Had some difficulty locating some of the hotels with an internet search even with the web addresses, not important. Got a list of strip clubs, bars, dance clubs etc.

Has anyone used Bogota Casa to rent an apt. from? If so, I would like to hear about your experience.They have a few units in the Chapinero(did not see this area mentioned in the forum), Zona Rosa and Parque 93 areas which were mentioned many times in the forum to be ok.

This will be my first trip to Colombia after various trips to other destinations. Got to try it at least once:)

Thanks in advance for any input and all those who contribute to the forum.

Hoof_hunter and other experienced Santa Fe players,

Could you please tell us a bit info in respect to take out to hotels? Most of the info here is about in-house sessions, and you usually have to go (and leave) pretty early. Take out to hotels in the north part of the city would require a decent taxi ride, would chicas like to do that?

There are some reports about take out, but it does not seem to be a structural way to do it cheaply and conveniently. Some guys reported that you have to talk to doorman or people on the street, in the parking lot to get take out. Does this always work? Also, I am concerned the looks of the chicas are not necessary that great and you have no idea about the service she could provide.

Thank you very much.

Tom

[quote=tom lee]hoof_hunter and other experienced santa fe players,

could you please tell us a bit info in respect to take out to hotels? most of the info here is about in-house sessions, and you usually have to go (and leave) pretty early. take out to hotels in the north part of the city would require a decent taxi ride, would chicas like to do that?

there are some reports about take out, but it does not seem to be a structural way to do it cheaply and conveniently. some guys reported that you have to talk to doorman or people on the street, in the parking lot to get take out. does this always work? also, i am concerned the looks of the chicas are not necessary that great and you have no idea about the service she could provide.

thank you very much.

tom[/quote]i'm gonna preface by saying santa fe is not a safe area. you may dodge bullets and not have a problem, but not advisable to keep taking chances. no need to ask me, just ask the doormen at any of the establishments. they'll tell you the latest fleece job. sometimes gringos, mostly colombians. you hear the glory stories on boards like this, but you rarely hear the horror stories.

i usually don't session in-house down there. usually only tln take-out. i hate time limits and rush service. sometimes i partake onsite, but generally i don't. after approx. 5 years, i've yet to pay more than 100.000-150.000 pesos for tln with santa fe, taking chicas back to my hotel in the north. most of them will stay as long as you wish, if they're comfortable. some have stayed the entire next day with me until it was time to head back to work. no $$$ extra, except 10.000 for the taxi back down there.

piscina and castillo require a salida of approx. 70.000-150.000 pesos for the girls to leave. to me, that's ridiculous. some of the other clubs down do not have a salida, but the girls prefer to work up to as close as possible to closing to maximize their nightly take. if their nights are slow, they will consider other alternatives. if you're a late night person like me, you can offer to meet them at fortaleza after work, circumventing the salida.

there are several ways to take out down there, all of which would require a more than decent working knowledge of spanish. you gotta be able to hold a conversation with them, even make them laugh. as i previously stated, money alone generally doesn't move the needle. if the chicas aren't comfortable with you, they won't go, and for obvious reasons. they get robbed and raped a lot. it happens, as the nature of the area. these chicks make cash, thieves know this well. it's not in a girl's best interest to leave her comfort zone down there with an incommunicable stranger. many of the girls there haven't even been outside of sante fe, much less zona rosa and parque 93. most don't have proper clothes to blend in up there.

if you're determined to still give it a go, here's a few tricks:

one, talk to the doormen or your waiter. this generally only works if they know you or your face, or another girl can vouch for you.

two, talk to the girl directly. have her join you at your table. hopefully, you've got a half-bottle of rum or guaro, and a can of red bull. that alone should only run you about 50.000 pesos. let her know your interest in tln and see where it goes from there.

three, go to the after-hours spots down there. there's one across frm la casona. i forget the name. but a lot of chicas from the clubs end up there. there's also fortaleza, which is a 3-5 minute cab ride up av. caracas. this is the better option, as some of the piscina and castillo girls head there after work. talk to the chicks you are interested in, maybe even dance with her, buy her an overpriced drink. see what she's talking about. no salida at fortaleza.

my personal rule, not trying to preach to anyone, is that i don't mess with street or hotel chicas down there. it's so easy to get a job at these bars. all they gotta do is show id and test clean for stds. if they aren't working in one of many places down there, something ain't right.

not exact science, but hope it helps.

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[quote=hoof hunter]they get robbed and raped a lot. [/quote]or worse. reported this weekend in el tiempo a chica was killed being thrown out a window of a prostibulo. though that was in an even more salubrious part of the city than santa fe.

Last Thurs night I started out at El Castillo. A nice place to hang-out and drink for a while. No pressure from the girls and very good service from the staff. Nobody really caught my eye.

After drinking 3/4th a bottle of rum, I headed out to the street. I decided to take the bottle with me. The street girls were really aggressive this night. I noticed a big difference from the night before. It probably had something to do with no Policia being around. My first night, Wed, there was Policia everywhere, but they were not to be seen on this more crowded Thurs night. Very strange. Anyway, in front of 20-30 people, one girl grabbed my bottle of rum and ran off with it. How weird is that? Nobody did much, including myself. But it made me realize how dangerous it really is out there. Just because there are tons of other people around doesn't mean you won't be a target. I'm just glad it wasn't my wallet (which a group of girls/shemales were grabbing at a few minutes before, but I protected it well). I completely agree with what Hoof said about the street girls. There is something seriously wrong with them if they can't get in the clubs (STD's, Thieves, Shemales).

I ended up taking the same club girl as Wed night. The club name was something like Llames. There were a few good ones in there. If you're headed to Santa Fe, check it out.

Hoof_Hunter,

Thank you very much for your great insights on take-out in Santa Fe. Given my Spanish skills, I probably would not venture too much there. But your information helps me assess the situation and is likely to help others greatly.

Tom

I had managed to be free this morning and I was walking near the center of the city.
When I arrived at the Tequendama, I knew I wasn’t far from Santa Fe and its girls.
I walked down the Carrera 13 till the center but as it was still early (10am?), there was only one girl there, not my kind.

I crossed the Calle 13th and kept walking south for 2 blocks.

Unfortunately I only saw old, fatties and uglies. I walked back and saw a real gem, a young beauty very slim. She was dressed to work with her hand bag but she was talking to some women. I got close but couldn’t establish contact. I’m not shy but I wouldn’t got in a conversation asking to an unknown girl if she was willing to come with me.

So I wait, not too far away, for my beauty to get free. She started to walk and I lost her but quickly found her waiting for her turn to call someone from a public phone.
I quit waiting and kept walking. I walked thru the bad street (Carrera 15?) just before Caracas where all the bad casas are and, as always, couldn’t find a single interesting girl.

I then crossed Caracas and enter Santa-Fe. I made several tours, even were attracted by a too sexy girl that appears to be a Tranny… and, once again couldn’t find a girl to my choice.

I spoke with a not too bad Paisa but she was shocked by the idea of making picture… Forget it.

I than came back to Carrera 13 and found a tiny girl, not very cute, but, let’s say a 6.
When I spoke business with her, Lucy agreed to BBBJ + pictures (without the face). She wanted 20 for a moment. I said let’s go, but she asked me for more money proposing me an hour for 40K. I told her that for that money it would have to be BBFS and she said OK!

She was working in front of a Motel (Carrera 13 20-94) and we got in.

The rooms were really bad, small, dirty, no way to lock the door, beds are making a lot of noisee.

Once inside, she wanted to be paid immediately. I tried to resist, but she was very positive, so I told her that she would receive a 20K tip if the service was good at the end of the hour. Of course, she wanted the tip immediately but that time I remain on my position : tip at the end.

60K is a lot of money for a street girl from the center, but she was hot and touching my best friend from the beginning of our meeting outside.

I started to take pictures immediately and she got slowly naked.

At one moment, I was so horny, so desperate to screw that I took her and start to do her seating her on my best friend. I then took her butt, open it widely and start to move her up and down. Her pussy was very wet and she was moving accordingly to my movement. I couldn’t resist and came in less than 10 minutes (yes, out of her).
She was surprised I came so fast, but I asked her to lay down on my side and we started to talk. Lucy is a liar; she told me lies all the time and was constantly saying things different, so I couldn’t know her exact situation. She was not willing to speak about her to a total stranger. So I didn’t insist and relax with Lucy in my arms.
After maybe 5 minutes, she proposed to blow me !!! Ok, even if it’s a very short time to recover. Lucy took my dick and starts a tremendous BBBJ. I mean she is very good at it. Her only technical problem being that she doesn’t spit enough so the skin gets dry and I had pain while she was doing the HJ + BBBJ. She sucks balls but didn’t suck or intent anything with my ass. After maybe 10 minutes of this, I was hard again and we made positions. While I was doing her Doggy style, I was staring at her lovely ass and tried to finger it. She left me put half a finger and then told me that she was selling her ass as an extra. I asked how much and she replied 20K !!! I said ok and once again, she wouldn’t do anything before I pay her… I paid and remain in her ass till the end, doing her Doggy, on our side and Missionary. She really had no problems to bear me deep in her ass. She is not that kind of girl who would moan for everything, she does it to encourage the guy to come, but she would remain silent after 2 minutes of moaning.

I think I may have remained in her ass for 30 minutes easy…

That was tremendous but I was incapable to come again.

At one moment, exhausted and breathless, I had to stop.

I had a quick look to my watch, 75 minutes had passed.

I said ok, I surrender, I can't come again, and went to wash my poor dick before getting my clothes on.

I gave Lucy her 20K tip, kissed good bye and left.

I have made a movies with Lucia :

2008-03-16_Bog-Lucia'sBBFS&AssFuckISG.mp4
Size : 25,8Mo
Length : 3’24”
Quality : Average for difficult light conditions, and, as always, I have problem screwing and shooting the movie.

You can hear at the beginning the amazing noise the bed was doing…

[url]http://www.steekr.com/index.php?m=c9ae77e8&a=7d397569&share=LNK4473480740b66751b[/url]

Cheers.

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I'm wondering what are good places to bring a non-pro girl for a night out to get her warmed up for the score. Can anyone help with that? Please be specific as to the names of establishments if possible.

Thanks!

Rodeo

Once again, I was in the center around 10am.

I knew I wanted to repeat Lucia I had a week before for her tremendous ass ability. She was not there when I arrived and I decided to make a tour in the close neighbourhood.

I went back 20 minutes later and see her walking, She was just arriving from her home and she recognized me immediately and kissed me. She was happy because she knew I was there for her, and she would make good money with me.

I told her that I didn’t want to return in her horrible motel and that I wanted a better place. She asked me for 5 minutes to let her things in her motel and we then walk till another near by motel. Walking, she explained me that she had some pain in the body because some thieves had attacked her 2 days earlier and kicked her hard. She also told me that they couldn’t rob her. We arrive in the Motel and to say the truth, it was not really better than the other one. I mean it was cleaner for sure but rooms were very small, you could hear everything next room, no porn on TV, no external windows.

That was clearly not what I had dream.

I had negotiate 2 hours BBFS + Anal + pictures with Lucia for 100K.

And once again, her magic delighted me. This girl is not very pretty (see the pictures), but she is very nice and she bears me in every holes she has.

This time, I was better prepared and didn’t come in the first 5 minutes.

I have been able to control my best friend and I didn’t come till the end.

So I had 2 hours of pure sex. Of course, I had to make some breaks, but she kept her promises and treated me very well not saying NO a single time.

We made all the classical positions, like doggy missionary, rear, . She blew me very well and I gave her a strong DATY, then I enter her ass and just wouldn’t get out as long as I could stand it. I think I remained in her hell’s door for more than 45 minutes. Poor Lucy, but I really have the impression that she just doesn’t feel much.

After coming (very strongly and out of her), we relaxed on the bed and I tried to have some information on her life, but it is still very difficult. That time she told me she has 4 kids! Who knows?

We then washed ourselves quickly (cold water), got our clothes on, kissed good bye and left.

I have decided to publish some pictures that are technically incorrect (my camera didn’t focus well and so the all picture is blurry) because I don’t have opportunity to make a BB Ass fuck every day.

I have also done 2 movies from my second meeting with Lucia:

1) 2008-03-22_Bog-LuciaBBBJISG.mp4
Size : 15,2Mo
Length : 2’00”
Quality : Average for difficult light conditions.

2) 2008-03-22_Bog-LuciaAssFuckISG.mp4
Size : 17,2Mo
Length : 2’16”
Quality : Bad, for very difficult light conditions, and, as always, I have problem screwing and shooting the movie.

[url]http://www.steekr.com/index.php?m=c9ae77e8&a=7d397569&share=LNK6399480c25211696b[/url]

Cheers

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]I'm wondering what are good places to bring a non-pro girl for a night out to get her warmed up for the score. Can anyone help with that? Please be specific as to the names of establishments if possible.

Thanks!

Rodeo[/QUOTE]What you thinking of? Dinner, Dancing, Movie, or? What's your budget?

If I was to go by what I read here, shopping would be the best option :)

Hi,

Is there an agency or a contact who can put me in touch with models/high class girls who are in the profession.

I know this might be costly but wanted to see what is available.

[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen]What you thinking of? Dinner, Dancing, Movie, or? What's your budget?

If I was to go by what I read here, shopping would be the best option :)[/QUOTE]Uhh, I'm thinking NO on shopping! That would be HER best option, not mine :) How about Dinner or Dancing; someplace that'll get her "warmed up". I'm looking for places that the locals like to go, not necessarily where us gringos always try to take them. For the most part, just looking for places to go at night!

Thanks,

Rodeo

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Uhh, I'm thinking NO on shopping! That would be HER best option, not mine :) How about Dinner or Dancing; someplace that'll get her "warmed up". I'm looking for places that the locals like to go, not necessarily where us gringos always try to take them. For the most part, just looking for places to go at night!

Thanks,

Rodeo[/QUOTE]Try la Calera area, a tink is goin up on the hills, Friday, or Saturday, or you can try [url]www.andrescarnederes.com[/url] in Chia, reservations necesary, one week in anvance. My two strong Colombian pesos

Kukulkan

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Uhh, I'm thinking NO on shopping! That would be HER best option, not mine :) How about Dinner or Dancing; someplace that'll get her "warmed up". I'm looking for places that the locals like to go, not necessarily where us gringos always try to take them. For the most part, just looking for places to go at night!

Thanks,

Rodeo[/QUOTE]Depending on your budget, dinner at San Isidro or WTC Giratorio, or dinner & dancing anywhere in P 93 eg San Angel, Gato Nego. The Japanese place is fun but has US prices. El Coral Gourmet should never be underrated. There's a good place on the north side of the square that has terrace seating: name escapes me right now. El Khalifa's good, esp when they've got belly dancing on. Casa Mexicana just off the ZR.

Or show her you're into her culture by taking her to one of the Paisa restaurants (Acacias? ). There's one at the top of K11 just south of 100. Another just of K15 near Unicentro, another in Galerias. Tip the musicians to play for you.

[QUOTE=Kukulkan]Try la Calera area, a tink is goin up on the hills, Friday, or Saturday, or you can try [url]www.andrescarnederes.com[/url] in Chia, reservations necesary, one week in anvance. My two strong Colombian pesos

Kukulkan[/QUOTE]Fine if you've got a car, otherwise it can be a pain in the ass getting there and worse getting back: hassle with taxis fighting to ream out your wallet. And La Calera gets *cold* at night - you wanna keep that lady hot, right?

This place if none of you mongerers know is in the north just off the autopista norte. A better bet for the massajistas than the others in zona rosa if only for the fact that they have suites upstairs for only 20,000 pesos more. 1 hour for 200,000COP.
Went a few days ago and didnt see anything fantastic but think the lineup changes regularly. Maybe im a bit biased because have seen Natalia a few times. This chicks smile lights up the room she is so friendly and DFK is guranteed. She has a great pair on her and has recently had lipo so any excess fat has been removed, good figure and quite tall for a colombiana. Only 19 as well, well who knows?

The address is Calle 129A 45-06 2nd piso, right in the corner. They also have a web site onerelax.com if you need a map.

Go and see Natalia but treat her right shes worth it, the rest dont know she just stands out.

[QUOTE=Fool Sex]Hi,

Is there an agency or a contact who can put me in touch with models/high class girls who are in the profession.

I know this might be costly but wanted to see what is available.[/QUOTE]You might want to show up in Bogota and look around at the chicks before putting a lot of effort into searching for models. The chicks in Colombia are HOT. Probably a lot hotter than many of the models I've seen on t.v. (or met in person in Milan) - in my opinion.

David

[QUOTE=Davidb3069]The chicks in Colombia are HOT.

David[/QUOTE]That's true. According to you, however, it's impossible to meet and date them.

Personally, I have no problem finding hay in a haystack.

[QUOTE=Love Handler]This place if none of you mongerers know is in the north just off the autopista norte. A better bet for the massajistas than the others in zona rosa if only for the fact that they have suites upstairs for only 20,000 pesos more. 1 hour for 200,000COP.

Went a few days ago and didnt see anything fantastic but think the lineup changes regularly. Maybe im a bit biased because have seen Natalia a few times. This chicks smile lights up the room she is so friendly and DFK is guranteed. She has a great pair on her and has recently had lipo so any excess fat has been removed, good figure and quite tall for a colombiana. Only 19 as well, well who knows?

The address is Calle 129A 45-06 2nd piso, right in the corner. They also have a web site onerelax.com if you need a map.

Go and see Natalia but treat her right shes worth it, the rest dont know she just stands out.[/QUOTE]Only 200,000? The casas of centro are 45,000 an hour.

I just got back from a quick 2 day stop in BOG. It has been over a year since I went there for my friend's wedding in BAQ. Took a few guys new to Colombia and they had a blast. We played in Santa Fe with a stop at Abejitas, which was a hit with the Rio boys. They loved the professionalism at Abejitas even though it was pricey with the weak dollar but being regulars in Rio these days they are use to it. Also, it was a welcome convenience to be able to get SIM cards at the Tigo stand at the airport outside customs.

Great talent at Atunes. As usual had a blast at La Casona. Las Paisas was pretty weak when we went and the skunk beer we got with the cover turned the crew off the place. El Castillo seemed dreary, I was a bit dissappointed because of it had been one of my favorite places. We got reemed on drinks at La Piscina where a bottle of Caldas was 38000 pesos more than the next expensive place and the girls were a bit too aggressive on Friday night but the newbies wanted to see it. Decent food outside if you have the late night munchies even though it can take a while to get your food. Despite the dismal atmosphere at Castillo Saturday, one of the newbie got a perfect GFE, decent price for the place, spoke great english, educated enough to have a good conversation and dressed in a manner that allowed her to blend in when he took her to Zona Rosa. Not to mention a very cute paisa.

There was a hottie in La Piscina del dia, hottest one in place when we were there, that provided a stellar performance and was very affectionate at the table. A true pro.

The quote I got in Fortaleza was 100, 000 pesos with a 30, 000 salida. We had a blast, had some late night Sanchocho and one of the newbies fell in love for the night. Excellent GFE, who waited for him sleep off a long night of partying before staying with him into the afternoon.

I like the changes at the airport, it took us 1 hour from hotel to the gate. I remember my first trip in 2002 where it took us 3 hours from arriving at the airport to getting to gate. It has gotten better over the years but this was the best I have experienced. Although since I don't check bags it would have been nice if the added an escalator in renovations. Small quibble.

Small note, used to be I rarely had issues with what taxistas charge but now it seems to be a bit more common, maybe caused by increase tourism, that you need to pay attention to what they are charging. While it won't break you, they are now trying to charge above what rate chart says.

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A walk through I made during my stay.

Dutchman

I'm one of those guys that feels a little more comfortable having the girls outside of their respective clubs. I'll be staying with some dudes that I don't know how cool they'll be about me bringing in a new girl every night. Any short time hotels in Zona T, Zona Rosa?

Thanks,

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Whats Up Fellows? Wanted To Know Where Is The Best Or Closes Hotel Near The Action Lke The Red Light District? Also If Anyone Wants To Hang Out? Thanks Again And Cant Wait!

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[QUOTE=Fguagua]Whats Up Fellows? Wanted To Know Where Is The Best Or Closes Hotel Near The Action Lke The Red Light District? Also If Anyone Wants To Hang Out? Thanks Again And Cant Wait!

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[url]http://www.colombiacontact.com/en_San-Francisco-de-Asis.html[/url]

This Hotel is very close to Santa Fe red light district

Buttlover

Staying in el centro, about 8 or 9 blocks from the action in santa fe. Went for a walk about 9 am. Found a nice little chica for 25K that would do oral sin condon. She ended up being a better ball washer and I let her practice. 8k for the room and got the knock on the door as we/I was finishing, tipped her 2k, she was happy and so was I.

Got on the transmilinea, the buses direct that travel the city. Cost is 1. 4 pesos. Got lost, finally found the map of the routes on the inside of the terminal, these coincide with large monument type signs at the various signs.

Finally found my way back to calle 22 two hours later and a nice tour of the city. Started walking the street girl action again. Was turned down several times for oral sin condon, either a straight no or it will cost more. This was around 12 noon and there was enough around to choose from. Found a 30 yr old, decent, gave me very nice oral and ball washing. 20k for her 2 k propina and 5k for the room.

Met up with a cyber cupid at 230 in the afternoon, she arrived at my hotel with a friend, she is 27 so I expected her sola. After about 2 minutes of my telling her I was not pleased, the friend left. We went to Plaza bolivar and to monserrat, a nice little ride up a cable car to a church type area with a nice view of the city, 14k each, covered up an down. Just a note here, when you exit the cable car on the bottom, the taxis immediately in front of you have there meters already loaded to about 3k pesos. I didn´t catch that until we were halfway down the hill. I could have walked across the street and caught a taxi from the drop off area. Anyways while we were enjoying the view, I told her exactly what I wanted to do to her and she was more than receptive. Two kids and an ex that lived in BAQ with his girlfriend. She was ready.

Arrived back at the hotel and tore up the sheets. She was very receptive giving my juevos a final cleaning and tomorrow she wants to learn the things her husband didn't want to teach her. I will end up paying for her babysitter, her taxi, and the commission from her job that she will not earn to spend the day with me. Hay vale. I will probably give her 150k for 12 hours of amor, spanish and a tour guide. To me, a propina well spent. Back to CTG on Friday to see my novia there.

Ciao

Any recommendations for legitimate Bogota Dating services?

I'm planning on going to Bogota, is there any cheap prices to get there, how about time, hotels, and of course information on the ladies in general all the information will be appreciated. By the way I'm planning on going within the next 2 months. I read most of the information but it's from 2, 3 or more months ago.

[QUOTE=Pierroth16]I'm planning on going to Bogota, is there any cheap prices to get there, how about time, hotels, and of course information on the ladies in general all the information will be appreciated. By the way I'm planning on going within the next 2 months. I read most of the information but it's from 2, 3 or more months ago.[/QUOTE]If you're in Texas, Continental from Houston to Bogota is your best bet. Start and end there for air travel. Going thru Miami, LA, NYC, or ATL would be a complete waste of time.

Regarding the rest, very easy. RTFF (or Read the fucking forum). PLENTY of info already there posted by mongers who wanted to contribute their findings. Spend your time reading first.

Nothing's changed except the exchange rate. Just adjust the pricing posted then, to the exchange rate now. [url]www.xe.com[/url].

[QUOTE=Pierroth16]I'm planning on going to Bogota, is there any cheap prices to get there, how about time, hotels, and of course information on the ladies in general all the information will be appreciated. By the way I'm planning on going within the next 2 months. I read most of the information but it's from 2, 3 or more months ago.[/QUOTE]Well, all the information from 2 or 3 months ago still apply.

I found it almost impossible to get a BBBJ in Bogota.

Much harder than anywhere else I've ever been.

Has anyone else had this experience?

[QUOTE=Ricker]Well, all the information from 2 or 3 months ago still apply.[/QUOTE]
I was in Bogota in January and meet a girl named maraia camila at casa novas. I lost her contact imformation. And I was there two weeks ago and she is not at casanovas when I was there. If anyone has her contact imformation. It would be great if you forward it to me as I am going to Bogota again in 2 weeks. She was fun and great service. Or if anyone has some really good girls to contact I am always intersested.

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Bogota is the hidden gem in my books. Now I’ve heard much about Cali and I’m looking forward to giving everyone my 411 version. To start, for some strange reason, some things are cheaper and some things are more expensive in this city of 8 million people. A little advise to all, learn the public transportation system (transmilenio). It’s cheap. Plus if you took the wrong bus, the only thing you lost is time, not money. I’ve read some, not all the postings from Bogota and I gotta admit, the red light district (santa fe) is pretty big. My first stop off transmilenio was calle 19. You gotta watch it, cause there’s a lot of trannies in this area. One brushed my hair as I strolled by and said in a deep voice "Que Rico". I brisked away as I yelled "What the fuck! " Walk towards calle 22 and it gets better. Sure I went inside the usual places like La Piscina and El Castillo. I liked it but at the same time, I wanted to leave. I’m not much of a person to pay exit fees plus the girl plus drinks. So I went to a place I think was called "Latinas Club", around the vicinity of La Piscina. Met a young 19yr old, Yady, bought her one beer and the rest was mine. I’ve never seen a Colombian with blue eyes. Made good conversation. She’s a freshman from a nearby university. Sucks like a champ. And fucks even better. Check her out. [url]http://www.flickr.com/photos/26686623atN04/sets/72157605129569688/[/url] Paid 50k (all inclusive) plus got her #. In the meantime, I plan on taking her back to my place. I’m renting a room away from the seedy barrios off of transmilenio stop calle 127. Check this one out, plus the people here don’t mind what I do. [url]http://www.vrbo.com/174230[/url] Anyway, my point is, Bogota is the place to be. 50k for a cool chica all night in Bogota or 150k for a chica in Cartagena for short term deal. You do the math. After my well spent time with Yady, found a lechon café about a block away. I’ll get the exact address next time cause I’m going back for sure. Big plate of pulled pork with rice cost 3500col. Not bad since it tasted like the best thing in the world. TGIF, Chili’s, Denny’s and all those places can kiss my ass. Street food is by far the best thing you can do. It builds character and you feel great afterwards. Till next time.

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[QUOTE=Smokers Rule]I found it almost impossible to get a BBBJ in Bogota.

Much harder than anywhere else I've ever been.

Has anyone else had this experience?[/QUOTE]If it's incall, it is actually a legal requirement for condoms to be used, even with oral sex. It's a city ordinance.

[QUOTE=Smokers Rule]I found it almost impossible to get a BBBJ in Bogota.

Much harder than anywhere else I've ever been.

Has anyone else had this experience?[/QUOTE]I never got a BJ in Bogota that was NOT BBBJ.

[QUOTE=Bonhead]I never got a BJ in Bogota that was NOT BBBJ.[/QUOTE]Here's what I say and it's worked every single time. Tengo una problema. No puedo tener organismo con condom. Es posible, puedes chuparme sin condom? Pero, uso condom despues. Esta bien?

Sorry everyone,

I'm new to ISG. This link should work to see Yady. Her blue eyes spoke volumes to me. Met her at Latina's Club in Santa Fe.

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[QUOTE=Hlover]Any recommendations for legitimate Bogota Dating services?[/QUOTE]I noticed that your question is going unanswered. I think that it is unanswered because it is unclear exactly what you are looking for. Please be more specific. I am sure you will get an answer if you clarify further.

Ok folks listen to my story and I'm sure all of you'll be able to relate. I'm not one to criticise others for inflating prices because in my month in Colombia this January on two occasions I got so drunk that I was handing out pesos like an idiot. Here's what happened:

I fly through Bogota to get to Cartagena from canada the flight arrives late at night and its hard to catch the last flight to Cartagena so like before I opted to stay at a hostel for the night, I've stayed there before the Hotel El Dorado it's right near hostel platypus, it cost 20, 000 plus 5, 000 for guests.

I walked out of Eldorado airport around 10 pm I had pounded back 20 beers since they started serving on the plane luckily the Aguilas from the mall upstairs are nice and watery so I was able to keep functioning, I didn't get a taxi from the que because I'm 300 lbs 6'4 and do stupid things when I'm drunk. A paisa taxi guy agreed to 15, 000 to take me to the hotel in candelaria on the way I was explaining to him how I was gonna be doing a girl that night and he wanted to take me to the centro to show me where I should go he was selling me on La Piscina I agreed to swing by and see the place. Sure enough we started cruising around the two blocks of streets around La Piscina full of street walkers. I made him stop and I rolled down the window and called over a petite girl who in the night light and beer fog looked amazing. I negotiated with her for all night for 100, 000 she agreed but wanted me to bring her friend who was hiding in the shadows so we settled on 225, 000 but with all the photos I could take then we went to the hotel. My taxi was not happy he never dreamed I'd bring home street walkers I think he envisioned the meter running all night. We got there and the Hotel Dorado is a hole in the wall and the room was like a cell you can hear moaning and groaning from every room. The manager remembered me from the year before and was worried I'd get rolled by these girls, I told him don't let 'them leave unless I say so. Up in the room I asked the girls if they do drugs and they said NO! , . Then I said well if you do I don't mind I'll even buy you some, they were all delighted and then they wanted to. I gave one of them 20, 000 to go get some coke. We went outside to have a few more beers in the bar next door the other arrived with the coke and they each started to take turns going to the bathroom and doing it. I only got them the stuff cause I thought maybe it would make the night more fun, I guess it only does if you do it too. After about an hour in the bar they started blabbing and blabbing and blabbing we stayed there till about 3 am they each drank a bottle of agua ardiente I wanted to leave sooner but they kept wanting to stay until they each finished telling me their life stories and sang the lyrics of another 20 stupid latin rock ballads. I kept fondling the first petite girl because she was hotter and her friend seemed to be cool with the fact that I preferred her, I gave them some bull about being in Bogota for a month and we were gonna spend the month together. I spent easily 250, 000 pesos in the bar. Anyway we finally went up to the room to do the business and started with the photo shoot. I locked all my valuables in my suitcase so they couldn't rip me off while I was taking a dump. They both gave me BBBJ then I rode the hot one while the other fondled my balls when I wanted to do the other one who by the way started to look a whole lot hotter than my original choice she wanted to change the condom. This made the petite girl jelous and she started talking to my new favorite girl while I was riding her and I just wanted her to shut up. After I blew my load they really started to argue and she seemed angry. The two girls started blabbing again and the old favorite girl started crying and sobbing about her kids. That actually was what turned me off the two of them they had nice bodies and faces but they both had some nasty stretch marks. I'm sure all of you have seen how colombians get all nostalgic and weapy when they're loaded well add coke and a nice dose of rejection into the mix and you got Tom Power trapped in a candelaria cell with a couple of street walkers angry at the world. After some more agua ardiente my new favorite managed to calm down my old favorite and she pushed my head down to her box for me to dine at the y, . Yeah right, I just fingered her and she was moaning and suddenly the blabber mouth shut up cause she was carefully trying to slip the camera under her shoes. I saw it all. When we arrived at the room earlier we settled up I gave 120, 000 to each of them and it was hilarious how they looked at each other like they didn't trust each other not to steal. So when I saw my old favorite trying to steal my camera I got up and said ok ladies party's over! I actually had to physically push them out of the room. They hated leaving that room full of pesos. I could hear them downstairs yelling and screaming with the manager for what seemed like an hour. He kept coming up knocking on my door and telling me that the ladies wanted to talk to me. I said get rid of them and he explained that he was afraid they'd break the glass on the door. Sorry man what do you want me to do? A little while later he came back and told me the police were there and they wanted to talk to me, . Chr ist! So I went down and my girls are there yelling and screaming that I owe them money that I hadn't paid. I joked to the cop that this happens a lot gringos stiffing hookers in Bogota? I argued with the less angry one and from what I got is the petite one didn't have her money but the other girl did, it was all a scam, either one stole from the other or they were both in on it. The cops are useless he didn't say much he said pay her or come with us to the station. Faced with that I looked into the police truck and waved and what looked like the boss he came over and I invited him up to my room where I unlocked the suitcase and offered him 100, 000 to take those two wh ores and dump them some where far far away he had a big smile and shook my hand. Everything went quiet after that except for the moaning and groaning from the other guests. In retrospect it was probably the manager that called the police. The next day I had a huge hangover and I was easily $400 poorer I learned some valuable lessons ALWAYS pay at the end of a session never ever before! , skip the drugs it just makes them talk to much and threesomes are highly overated maybe it only works if you have a director like in the pornos directing things.

Remember, we're all in this together.

Tom Power

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Heres the photos of my drunken night in Bogota.

[QUOTE=Client 9]I noticed that your question is going unanswered. I think that it is unanswered because it is unclear exactly what you are looking for. Please be more specific. I am sure you will get an answer if you clarify further.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the response.

Plan to be in Bogata during October. Prior to the trip, it would be nice to meet regular chicas on internet dating services. Of course I plan to monger but its always nice to have options.

I would be highly appreciative of mongers who successfully used Bogata internet dating sites to meet nice chicas. Yes, eventually achieving sex is the ultimate objective but not of great importance.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Hlover]Thank you for the response.

Plan to be in Bogata during October. Prior to the trip, it would be nice to meet regular chicas on internet dating services. Of course I plan to monger but its always nice to have options.

I would be highly appreciative of mongers who successfully used Bogata internet dating sites to meet nice chicas. Yes, eventually achieving sex is the ultimate objective but not of great importance.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]If you want to meet non pro chicas you can go to services like Amigos.Com. There many latin dating services on the internet.Most of them require a membership fee.

I was feeling alittle bored, so I took Trans to Santa Fe (calle 19) around 7pm. Walked around and decided to check out the east side of Transmilenio (mountainside calle 19 to calle 17). I could tell it was a slow night. The middle aged has beens hang in this area. You can get 1/2 hr for 10, 000pesos plus 5000 for the house. That's right 15, 000pesos. I didn't take the offer but it did make me think twice about the notion. Walked over to La Piscina and and saw the usual. Not very busy. Decent bodies but nothing catching my eye. And neither did any of the street girls. So I decided it was best to get something to eat. I remembered to get the exact address of where I get a great plate of lechona (cr 16 no. 22-93). I think it's the only place to get pulled pork and rice right by the major clubs. Well that night I chose to say no. There's always next time.

[QUOTE=Hlover]Thank you for the response.

Plan to be in Bogata during October. Prior to the trip, it would be nice to meet regular chicas on internet dating services. Of course I plan to monger but its always nice to have options.

I would be highly appreciative of mongers who successfully used Bogata internet dating sites to meet nice chicas. Yes, eventually achieving sex is the ultimate objective but not of great importance.

Thank you. [/QUOTE]There are a lot of "nice girls" in Colombia. Generally, however, they don't join internet dating sites. Contrary to what Nick has stated, most of the girls on internet dating sites (especially Amigos.com) are prepagos/prostitutes.

Nick is confused because such women often will hide that they are prepagos/prostitutes. They do that for a variety of reasons.

The internet dating sites are like McDonald's. McDonald's serves a high quantity of low quality food in an efficient and economical manner. Likewise, the internet dating sites make available a high quantity of low quality girls in an efficient and economical manner.

I have met a lot of Colombian women through internet dating sites. I have had a lot of fun with them. However, I keep both both eyes wide open and see them for what they are. Prepagos are prepagos, and nice girls are nice girls. Most of the girls on internet dating sites are prepagos, and many are very good at hiding that fact.

The usual sites are Amigos, CyberCupido, LatinAmericanCupid, Match, sexyono.com, etc.

It's easy to meet "nice girls" in Colombia, but you won't meet them on internet dating sites. Gringos who want to meet nice chicas should be looking for chicas that are not looking for Gringos. Be the fisherman, not the fish.

Have fun!

[QUOTE=Client 9]There are a lot of "nice girls" in Colombia. Generally, however, they don't join internet dating sites. Contrary to what Nick has stated, most of the girls on internet dating sites (especially Amigos.com) are prepagos/prostitutes.

Nick is confused because such women often will hide that they are prepagos/prostitutes. They do that for a variety of reasons.

The internet dating sites are like McDonald's. McDonald's serves a high quantity of low quality food in an efficient and economical manner. Likewise, the internet dating sites make available a high quantity of low quality girls in an efficient and economical manner.

I have met a lot of Colombian women through internet dating sites. I have had a lot of fun with them. However, I keep both both eyes wide open and see them for what they are. Prepagos are prepagos, and nice girls are nice girls. Most of the girls on internet dating sites are prepagos, and many are very good at hiding that fact.

The usual sites are Amigos, CyberCupido, LatinAmericanCupid, Match, sexyono.com, etc.

It's easy to meet "nice girls" in Colombia, but you won't meet them on internet dating sites. Gringos who want to meet nice chicas should be looking for chicas that are not looking for Gringos. Be the fisherman, not the fish.

Have fun![/QUOTE]I am sure there are some girls on the internet dating sites that do work as prostitutes. There are many girls that are not. I met my friend on Amigos.com about 6 years ago.She worked in one of Colombias largest companies.She owns her own condo and several houses that she rents. She has all her children attending the university of her city. With several million ladies on one dating service why would you classify them all as prostitutes.She has visited me here in the US, and my family is crazy about her I have visited her many times in her city and have met all her family, most are professional people.

Client 9,

Thank you for clarifying the so-called web dating sites.

Your assessment is most likely accurate; these chicas look like to be prostitutes.

Having toured South America, I agree the optimal method for meeting regular chicas is at the hotels, restaurants, stores, tours, etc.

Often times these chicas are receptive to nice gringos and may engage in sex.

[QUOTE=Client 9]There are a lot of "nice girls" in Colombia. Generally, however, they don't join internet dating sites. Contrary to what Nick has stated, most of the girls on internet dating sites (especially Amigos.com) are prepagos/prostitutes.

Nick is confused because such women often will hide that they are prepagos / prostitutes. They do that for a variety of reasons.

The internet dating sites are like McDonald's. McDonald's serves a high quantity of low quality food in an efficient and economical manner. Likewise, the internet dating sites make available a high quantity of low quality girls in an efficient and economical manner.

I have met a lot of Colombian women through internet dating sites. I have had a lot of fun with them. However, I keep both both eyes wide open and see them for what they are. Prepagos are prepagos, and nice girls are nice girls. Most of the girls on internet dating sites are prepagos, and many are very good at hiding that fact.

The usual sites are Amigos, CyberCupido, LatinAmericanCupid, Match, sexyono.com, etc.

It's easy to meet "nice girls" in Colombia, but you won't meet them on internet dating sites. Gringos who want to meet nice chicas should be looking for chicas that are not looking for Gringos. Be the fisherman, not the fish.

Have fun![/QUOTE]I agree mostly with this assessment, though obviously not all the chicas on these sites are of that pre-pago type.

From my experience on these sites ... I´ve met many chicas, but only a couple have been `keepers` for me.

I agree with the Client 9, the best chicas are the ones not looking for gringos.

Good luck!

My MO is rent a car and drive around the country the city of Bogota centro area the girls were not too friendly even in the gym. The zona Rosa they were friendly-er I am talking non pros in the small towns a big difference Tunja San Gil Barichara girls in the malls by the side of the road I was meeting them everywhere the girls in Colombia are not as wild as the D. R. Girls. Colombia is similar to Pamana out side the capitals a big difference in attitude towards gringos there is much less prostitution going on in these towns and the girls let there guard down. I believe the girls near red lite areas are afraid to be label pros why were the girls friendly in zona Rosa and in other parts of the city they would not look at you. The other thing I notice I was in about 12 pro clubs the quality was not great including upscale clubs in Zona Rosa in Santa Fe some of the he-shes looked better than the talent in the clubs. Next time down I am staying in the smaller towns there much easier to meet non working girls. Has anyone been around 60th and Caracas there a couple of love hotels and some working casas.

[QUOTE=Hlover]Client 9,

Thank you for clarifying the so-called web dating sites.

Your assessment is most likely accurate; these chicas look like to be prostitutes.[/QUOTE]Please, you look at a picture and assume one is a prostitute? I use those web sites routinely. I find quite the opposite. I use them on a regular basis to get to know the people of the city with internet access. When I land, I date probably 5 different women over a 7 day period and have a blast. Oh, I look like Lex Luther, but I am soft like cotton.

Jes

This answers my question.

Thank you sir.

[QUOTE=Bango Cheito]If it's incall, it is actually a legal requirement for condoms to be used, even with oral sex. It's a city ordinance.[/QUOTE]

Sometimes the party gets the best of us. I learnt my lesson about threesomes in Sao Paolo when I caugth the free girl trying to steal money. Oftentimes, threesomes are more trouble than they are worth. I usually do them in an control environment (in house) and tend to avoid them when the girls push for it. I still do them, recently in the DR, but only when I have a good feel for the girls and I don't have anything around worth stealing. The best route is a girl you already know and trust who brings along a friend. Also, if you push the issue, as a buddy of mine found out in Peru, the girls will agree to it while not being comfortable with having sex with another chica in the room and it ends up being a dismal performance.

I would avoid the streetwalkers in Santa Fe from now one.

[QUOTE=Tom Power]Ok folks listen to my story and I'm sure all of you'll be able to relate.[/QUOTE]Holy crap dude, awesome report! Coke, beers, wacked-out street bitches, successful bribes, AND some badass pics?!! This is the kind of crazy-as-balls adventure only Colombia can bring.

Keep up the good work sir, I salute you!

Yeasterday la piscina was packed. There were many girls and lots of new Talent. I had a wonderfull session with a cute little spinner her name is Cristina. Don Pedro (Piscina Owner) was in the office so all the employees were trying to their best. One thing that sometimes I don't like is the presence of PM (policia Militar) or Militay police, doing raids for drugs but not serching anyone or bothering any one. It bothers me because I am not used to see a guy entering a *****house with an ak47. I guess that is just me.

Now la Psicina de Noche has license to be open untill 6 am. I did not Stay that Long. Any Mongers where there Last Night Too?

[QUOTE=PaulGore]My MO is rent a car and drive around the country the city of Bogota centro area the girls were not too friendly even in the gym. The zona Rosa they were friendly-er I am talking non pros in the small towns a big difference Tunja San Gil Barichara girls in the malls by the side of the road I was meeting them everywhere the girls in Colombia are not as wild as the D. R. Girls. Colombia is similar to Pamana out side the capitals a big difference in attitude towards gringos there is much less prostitution going on in these towns and the girls let there guard down. I believe the girls near red lite areas are afraid to be label pros why were the girls friendly in zona Rosa and in other parts of the city they would not look at you. The other thing I notice I was in about 12 pro clubs the quality was not great including upscale clubs in Zona Rosa in Santa Fe some of the he-shes looked better than the talent in the clubs. Next time down I am staying in the smaller towns there much easier to meet non working girls. Has anyone been around 60th and Caracas there a couple of love hotels and some working casas.[/QUOTE]12 pro clubs? Names? Which ones were in Zona Rosa? I'm in Bogota now!

Thanks,

Rodeo

Anyone experience the quake the other day?

[QUOTE=Tom Power]The next day I had a huge hangover and I was easily $400 poorer I learned some valuable lessons ALWAYS pay at the end of a session never ever before! , skip the drugs it just makes them talk to much and threesomes are highly overated maybe it only works if you have a director like in the pornos directing things.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you learned your lesson the hard way. Thanks for sharing. I got a chuckle only because I can relate to the story.

Davd

Any mongers in Bogota that can show me around the Santa Fe area, it would be greatly appreciated. Please PM me. I don't want to go there first time by myself; I'll be here till mid June.

Thanks!

Rodeo

[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen]Anyone experience the quake the other day?[/QUOTE]Yep, it was pretty scary. There were people running out onto the street everywhere. There were people kneeling down praying. My mate was in a supermarket and he said all the stuff was falling off shelves etc.

[QUOTE=Hlover]Thank you for the response.

Plan to be in Bogata during October. Prior to the trip, it would be nice to meet regular chicas on internet dating services. Of course I plan to monger but its always nice to have options.

I would be highly appreciative of mongers who successfully used Bogata internet dating sites to meet nice chicas. Yes, eventually achieving sex is the ultimate objective but not of great importance.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]You can use [url]www.cybercupido.com[/url]

It is free.

Kukulkan

Thank you for the reply.

Appears to be a good site. Do you have suggestions for an English speaking dating site?

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Hlover]Thank you for the reply.

Appears to be a good site. Do you have suggestions for an English speaking dating site?

Thank you.[/QUOTE]Colombiancupid.com is a great one too. I went through and found all the ones I was interested in that were either in Bogota or Cundinamarca Dept that had logged on within 30 days. I marked all those as favorites. About 50 in all. Sent all of those girls interest notes. Sent those who logged in within a week email messages through the site. About 25 in all. Got replies from about 15 of those, most of whom sent me their email addresses and phone numbers after the first or second communication. From there, narrowed down to about 5-7 who had cars, no children and maybe spoke a little English (you can be a little picky by that point). By then, it was about 2 days prior to my trip, which I let them know the dates ahead of time. I called the 5-7 by my 3rd day in town and all agreed to meet at some point. We'll see what happens, but phone conversation seems promising!

The site has a translator to translate messages from the girls (I assume one is available on their end too. I use Babel Fish to translate before I send them a message, showing an effort and all. Also, the site allows the girls to post multiple pictures. I think I ended up paying for a 3 month membership, as I started on it 2 months prior to my trip, since I only logged in maybe 3 times per week.

Rodeo

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Colombiancupid.com is a great one too.

Rodeo[/QUOTE]Thank you Rodeo9112.

Indeed a great site due to the English component, search engine and amount of chicas. Appears the majority of the chicas are non pros.

Please provide a report on your chica encounters.

[QUOTE=Hlover]Thank you Rodeo9112.

Indeed a great site due to the English component, search engine and amount of chicas. Appears the majority of the chicas are non pros.

Please provide a report on your chica encounters.[/QUOTE]I started on my report for week 1, then as I thought about the chicas here that I banged, got the urge to go out and get one. Sorry for the delay, but, I haven't forgotten. I wish I could get more help on the Medellin board; I'm trying to go there, but I feel like I'm going in the blind.

Rodeo

Can somebody please recommend a few mid-range ($50), chica-friendly hotels in Zona Rosa?

Unfortunately the information in the Bogota Lists folder is very outdated; the Suites Real 85 is listed as a rate of 109,000COP per night, but the current rate is now $106 US! I will do my best to help update the list on my upcoming trip to BOG. It would also be helpful if somebody who knows the area well could create a google earth map of the neighborhoods and popular casas for us first-time visitors.

I will be there in August for several days if anybody is interested in teaming up for drinks and sightseeing in the RLD!

Could somebody advise which places can be good for day action? I assume one would be La Piscina del Dia. From what I've read on the forum, it looks like most places get busy in the evening. Are there are day places in Bogota such as Loutron in Medellin?

Thank you. If somebody wants to hang out together sometime June 10-13 p.m. me.

[QUOTE=Goga Fung]Could somebody advise which places can be good for day action? I assume one would be La Piscina del Dia. From what I've read on the forum, it looks like most places get busy in the evening. Are there are day places in Bogota such as Loutron in Medellin?

Thank you. If somebody wants to hang out together sometime June 10-13 p.m. me.[/QUOTE]Mate plenty of massage parlours in Bogota for day action. Look in the local paper. IMO Bogota is the best place in Colombia for action.

There is a place like loutrons opened in the evenings aswell. Just like loutrons hot women and overpriced. 'La mansion'

[QUOTE=Goga Fung]Could somebody advise which places can be good for day action? I assume one would be La Piscina del Dia. From what I've read on the forum, it looks like most places get busy in the evening. Are there are day places in Bogota such as Loutron in Medellin?

Thank you. If somebody wants to hang out together sometime June 10-13 p.m. me.[/QUOTE]La Piscina del Dia is an option. Wouldn't say it was busy but had some decent talent the last time I went there. My buddy got his world rocked by the hottest chick in the spot. About a 9 and very affectionate at the table. At 4 there is Atunes, busier and a lot more talent. If you don't mind fucking on a massage table there is Abejitas. It opens, I think, at 10 am. A bit pricey but since they depend on repeat customers the performances tend to be very good and they take their time. If time is limited and I want a guaranteed good time with a hot chica, this where I go.

I’M just leaving Laura’s arms.

An hour ago I entered the calle 61 and made the tour of all the clubs but couldn’t see ant reel attractive girl.

Finally, I entered the club Calle 61 13-65 and this is where I found Laura. She is thin and small as I like them to be.

We had a strong business discussion and we closed the deal for 60K (not sure now) + 40K as I wanted her to perform a BBBJ + pictures.

Rooms are located downstairs close from the door and are very small and in bad conditions. They do have hot water but we had no towels! The floor is very dirty too. This is just ridiculous.

Laura let me take some pictures, I then got my clothes off and sat on the bed and Laura put me the condom immediately to blow me. Of course it was not very good, but this is very usual, before the room they will promise anything, once in the room, they forget their promises.

She really has a splendid body. She blows me but I wasn’t very excited even if I really wanted to screw. She then went cow girl but I hardly felt her and soon lost stiffness (I had forgot to take my blue pill).

We then make some other positions, but it was harder and harder for me as I was loosing stiffness.

Laura then gave me a Hand job and blew me again and tried very hard to get me hard again, but it was really difficult. I then discovered that her pussy was full of beauty spot, I was really impressed as I had never seen such a pussy before. I wanted to caress her but she hardly let me do it and refused to be fingered in the ass or in her pussy.

I then proposed her a tip to go BB but she refused saying that she can’t do this. But then, after 5 more minutes she asked me how much I would give her to go BB. We agreed for 30K. She took the rubber out and put some alcohol on my dick. I guess she wanted to see if it would hurt me. She saw that it didn’t hurt me at all. She asked me to wash my dick. And then put me some cream.

We then went into missionary for a while, then on our side, it was good but I was far to come and was loosing stiffness again.

After a good while I stopped and sat down thinking that I wouldn’t be able to come. She then start a hand job, but she was doing it on the base of my dick! I tried to explain her that it has to be done on the head but she didn’t understand. So I stopped her and start to masturbate myself. She then got into position to let me see her pussy widely open, this time she left me explore her and put a finger into her pussy and this is how I finally could come.

30 seconds later, the papasan was knocking at the door.

We then quickly had a small wash, got our clothes on, I gave her the extra 30K, a short kiss and said good bye.

What a pity that such a lovely girl with this amazing body works in such a bad place.

Cheers

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Col Bog 1,

So, this Calle 61 area. Is it one club (if so, what's the name? ) or a bunch of clubs (names please). Did you monger in the day or night here! ?

Rodeo

Looking for someone who knows the Santa Fe area to show me where to go (and where not to go) on Tuesday and Friday nights. I don't wanna get jacked up by going alone first time.

Thanks,

Rodeo

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Col Bog 1,

So, this Calle 61 area. Is it one club (if so, what's the name? ) or a bunch of clubs (names please). Did you monger in the day or night here! ?

Rodeo[/QUOTE]Hi Rodeo,

I have 3 clubs on my palm for this street :
Calle 61 13-63 Salon Fantasias
Calle 61 13-65
Calle 61 13-79 Divas

Not too far, I also have :
Calle 64 13-71 Chanteclaire
Calle 58 14A-53 Abejas
Caracas 66-09
Caracas 66-67
Caracas 66-80

As you see, the all barrio is filled with interesting places.

Be aware though that there are mostly low scale places.

For what I have seen, theu open around 3 or 4pm but the major activity starts around 5 or 6pm.

Have fun.

that day, i had an early business appointment and i finished my meeting around noon.

i had 2 free hours before i should go to the airport and decided to see if lucia was there.

i walked till her place but was informed that she didn’t come today.

i was kind of sad, but i made a quick tour of the red light district. unfortunately, i saw no one that interested me, so i decided to go to the santa fé district and see what was there.

i made 3 tours of the district and finally saw a nice black girl that was my kind of small doll. i talked with her and explain my vices (daty, pictures & bbbj). she agreed to everything and asked for 40k + the room (5k).

once in the room, i started with some pictures. she didn’t want her head to be on the picture but i managed it. another working girl with children who is afraid to be on internet.).

we then start the "other" activity giving her a good daty. i think she liked it (probably better than being screwed) and it was quite nice (at least for me! ). after a few minutes of this, i turned around to enter in 69. paola was slow to enter in action as she was only giving me a poor hj while i was licking her pussy and ass. when i asked her if something was going wrong, she told me to relax and she put me on my back and starts to blow. and then, suddenly, i was in heaven! she is probably one of the best blower i’ve ever met! she knows how to blow perfectly; she puts the tongue where she has to lick, a blower virtuoso!

i thought i’d come very fast. but i have been able to keep control, and i turned into 69 to give her another daty. i started to finger her ass. i really was in heaven again as she left me fingered her pussy and ass as i wanted without complaining (i guess she have 2 fingers better than 1! ). she has a nice pussy and her flavour is not too strong (you daty lovers surely know that black girl may have a strong flavour in their pussy), she is very busty, well, a magnificent doll.

after the preliminaries, i asked her if i could enter bb, but she refused very firmly. it was my fault as i had accepted her rate of 40k from the scratch for my special vices (daty, pictures & bbbj). she told me that she wanted 50k more to let me do what i want but bb. i told her i would give her a tip if she would behave well with me. she then explained me that she might accept bb if i would be a regular customer, but meanwhile: no way!

she had a big scar on her belly so she had had her baby with caesarean. well, i let her put me the rubber and we start the intercourse session with missionary position. i was feeling almost nothing and the hard bargain had turned me down and i was loosing stiffness at a great speed. i was so sure i would do her bb that when she remained firm on the no i was lost and feeling badly.

once again, i think that it has been my entire fault as i should have negotiated better and then propose a tip for bb. this is what happened to me when my dick takes control over my head!

we then followed by doggy but i was so desperate that i wasn’t hard at all anymore. i fingered her ass again but as i was so "soft" i couldn’t feel my fingers with my dick in doggy.

i went out and start another daty before i remove the condom. i made a last try to convince her to let me enter bb but she remained firm. so i told her that she couldn’t let me go out like this and that she had o do something to help me. so she gave me her best bbbj and she did it so well that i finally came after 4 minutes, spreading my milk everywhere in the room. she was a little upset about that, but glad she could satisfy me.

i dressed up and gave her the promised 50k.

she told me she would soon go to cali to visit her family and gave me her cell number (pm if interested). i told her that if i’d call her there wouldn’t be any rubber between us.

she smiled and gave me a big hug before i left.

i have made a movie from my meeting with paola:

2008-05-06_bog-paolasantafe-2betterthan1.mp4
size : 9,6mo
length : 1’18”
quality : ok. you’ll see how i plunged 2 fingers better than 1 !!!

[url]http://macle.voila.fr/index.php?m=c9ae77e8&a=7d397569&share=lnk8626485160ee7bcc8[/url]

cheers

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Col. Bog fingered her like a six pack.

Col Bog,

Great pics.

Are there many black chicas in Santa fe?

Do you recall the address of this chica?

Last Saturday afternoon I decided to walk around and see if I could find some ok chicks.The day before I found nothing but fuglies.I met Carol a 21year old single mom with a 4year old at Las Vegas.She was from some small town ive never heard of.After a few drinks we negotiated 25K plus 40K for BBBJ+CIM+Video.I didnt really feel like banging her but it was fun filming her blow me while she had her fuck me pumps on.I made 2 short videos with her but no pictures.

[url]http://steekr.com/n/50-17/share/LNK949848573684d0c89/[/url]

Part 2 of Carol.

[url]http://steekr.com/n/50-17/share/LNK533448574c6958ec7/[/url]

Hat tip to col blog for info and steekr reccomendation--I find video is easier and you get more because they dont have to stop and pose. More 2 come.

[QUOTE=Simeon Jones]Last Saturday afternoon I decided to walk around and see if I could find some ok chicks.The day before I found nothing but fuglies.I met Carol a 21year old single mom with a 4year old at Las Vegas.She was from some small town ive never heard of.After a few drinks we negotiated 25K plus 40K for BBBJ+CIM+Video. I didnt really feel like banging her but it was fun filming her blow me while she had her fuck me pumps on.I made 2 short videos with her but no pictures.

[url]http://steekr.com/n/50-17/share/LNK949848573684d0c89/[/url][/QUOTE]Nice video. Not too much of the pumps though. Colombian girls certainly do like their heels, god bless 'em.

[url]http://www.elcastilloclub.com[/url]

Mongers,

Any one with actionable intelligence about this club?

What are the prices? What is the quality of the chicas?

Price/Benefit?

Thank you.

a question for the forum, is it safe to walk the streets of bogota alone? and i don't mean el northe where the zona roza is at. i mean chapinero , santa fe , downtown. and what are the best casas in area chapinero .and whereto find a nice bar to sit and chill and have a cold beer in chapinero?

i was looking at el tiempo classified and here what i found , are these girls safe to call and visit them in their apartments without being suspecious of someone being there to rob you!!!!! i found their prices to be excellent.it is listed under adultos accompanantes and they are recent ads:

***angelica*** acompañante exclusiva, sensual, discreta, exótica. solo domicilios. seguridad. llamame 311-5433871.

*atractiva sensual* ejecutivos, turistas, extranjeros, masaje completo $40.000, apartamento discreto. 311-2396937. [email]kyoceramsn88@hotmail.com[/email]

*patricia* relax prostático. cumplo fantasias. apartamento privado. domicilios hoteles, apartamentos. 314-4328432.

100% ¡casa mascarada travestis llegaron, supertransexuales, jovencitas, perturbadoras, exhuberantes, despampanantes, exóticas, dominadoras, tríos, parejas. domicilios: 2124931. calle 67 no. 14a-42 chapinero.

abc.colombiasexy.com dia del padre, gang bang múltiple. junio 19. 3203880, 310-6878500.

abejitas chicó, 6346671, 7038483, $20.000, zona rosa, 6162255, 6164873, técnicas eróticas especiales, gane $1.000.000.

absolut exclusivo spa para hombres, hermosisimas terapeutas, lujosas instalaciones. zona rosa 6112518, 6112603, promociones. [url]www.absolutspa.com[/url]

acompañante ejecutiva hermosa, 40 años, porte, clase, distinción. ejecutivos alto nivel. domicilios. 314-3620081.

adas espectacular masaje relajante, exclusivas, espectaculares, masajistas. avenida 15 no. 116-59 (202). 6376627.

alejandra bonita, tierna, independiente; cuerpo perfecto, descomplicada, apartamento propio. 3462162. celular: 314-3684410.

angie exótica, hermosa, complaciente. masajes, algo más. directamente. llámame. 312-3094349, 2359103.

carolina independiente acompaño, ejecutivos, extranjeros, de domingo a domingo, promociones, 314-3501569, [url]www.esteticasensual.es.tl[/url]

casadas ardientes con deseos de sexo, complacen fantasías, disciplina. recibimos. 314-5904017.

celeste bellísima travesty internacional, 19 años, verdaderamente sexy. barrio centenario. 314-3804407.

colombianfantasy.es.tl servicio acompañante alto nivel, 100% reservado, casting. 7023397, 310-7993147, 316-6224330.

discretas jazmin, valeria, gisel, varias fantasías. apartamento privado. domicilios. 311-5573431, 6097449.

dulcemente estricta señora bonita, complaciente, curvas perfectas, juegos eróticos, tríos, ejecutivos, extranjeros. 313-3715704.

e6 entendemos la importancia de una elegante y discreta compañía, sede, domicilios. 2140311. [url]www.flirtbogota.com[/url]

exuberante travesti chapinero apartamento privado domisilios, activa y pasiva. 320-2860179. [url]www.chicafantastica.com[/url]

impotencia agrandadores, eyaculación precoz, frigidez, atrayentes, vidradores excitantes, lubricantes, aparatos. 320-2608951.

ivanna ¡travesti! \"muñecota\", femenina, voluptuosa, exitante, atrevida, disciplina, caballeros, parejas. (apartamento privado). domicilios: 320-5256233.

karen joven tierna, descomplicada, complaciente. apartamento propio. 2127014, 313-2600385, 316-7138375.

linda discreta, tierna, cariñosa, elegante, seguridad, directamente. llámame: 312-5692611, 315-3862383, 2552816.

melissa atractiva veterana, discreta, complaciente. acompaña ejecutivos, extranjeros. domicilios, hoteles. 313-3790671.

sara vip sensual modelo, bonita, discreta, cuerpo perfecto, solo a domilicilios. llámame. 314-2208835.

top model travesti ofrece sus servicios de acompañante caballeros distinguidos y discretos. 301-4708228.

travesti rubia voluptuosa, descomplicada. show de disciplina, transformismo, apartamento privado. 314-2021820, 2492171.

travestis chicas-t paulina exquisitas hermosisimas, acompañantes descomplicadas, exuberantes, ardientes, exóticas, showlesbi. ejecutivos, extranjeros. servicio privado alto nivel. 2889942, 320-2355485. 24 horas.

[url]www.chuscas.com[/url] bellísimas modelos acompañantes, discretas, exclusividad, hoteles, extranjeros, apartamentos. 6009584. recibimos.

[url]www.misprimas.com[/url] señoritas cultas, discretas y complacientes. domicilios: sexo en vivo 24 horas.

¡100%! ¡anamaria! descomplicadas, discretas, complacientes, atendemos caballeros, hoteles, shows, parejas. 6309710, 2315448, 315-8587171.

¡100% abaaby! lesbiana para hombres, jovencitas bisexuales, tu eliges 2 para el shows, solamente para ti, en privado. con o sin participación. tarifas muy variadas, no se manejan telefonicamente. calle 58 no. 14a-53. 3126179.

¡100% ababellas! onerelax autonorte, veinticinco hermosísimas. reservadísimo. 2163568, 5223739. [url]www.onerelax.com[/url]

¡100% abadesas! ardientes, sensuales, cariñosas, masoterapeutas. sede, hoteles, ejecutivos, extranjeros, promociones. 2154518. unicentro, ¡diurno!.

¡100% abispitas! veinticinco masajistas. hermosísimas, zona rosa. 2366964, 5301172. [url]www.avispitas.com[/url]

¡100% amasajes! veinticinco masajistas pasarela, avenida suba. 5339303, 6243420. [url]www.abejita.com[/url]

¡100% muy confidencial! ¿quieres algo diferente?, pasa inolvidables momentos. hoteles, ejecutivos. 2177494. domicilios 3127153.

¡120.000x2! hoteles, domicilios, atendemos caballeros, parejas, damas despedidas, shows. 3291159, 6042249, 312-4939958, 316-4674215. recibimos.

¡17 machotes! personal renovado, jovencitos, extradotados, totalmente desnudos, morenos atléticos, varoniles, trios, parejas, streapers. domicilios: 3462181. calle 67 no. 14a-42. chapinero.

¡acompañantes! modelos ([url]www.modelosclubbogotá.net[/url]) 24: horas... bellas: (mujeres)... y barones... por: separado... videobar, shows... parejas... trios... despedidas... sede: casa... parqueadero: vigilado... domicilios: 3463888... tarjetas crédito: 310-3340941. recibimos personal.

¡amodels! fantasías, 2 chicas $60.000, lesbian show. sede, domicilios: 2872319, 2454266. calle 36 no. 17a-44. teusaquillo.

¡angels! espectaculares masajistas, lujosas instalaciones. calle 83 no. 14-26. 6222032.

¡ardientes! maduritas, complacen fantasias, excelente figura, dominación. sede elegante. 3144084284. recibimos.

¡a´scort! 15 jovencitas, descomplicadas, 1 hora $40.000, lesbian, disciplina, fantasias. 2508567, 6305664. carrera 26 no. 71b-61.

¡camiilo! admirable, dotado, joven, atiendo caballeros, apartamento privado, garantizado. 311-5564378, 6095908.

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¡señoras! damas veteranitas, discretas, voluptuosas, gruesitas, delgadas, complacientes. 313-2288615, 316-7603727. recibimos.
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I was watching Holland clobber France at La Piscina(day) and this pretty girl kept smiling so I waived her over and bought her a drink.She is from Medellin and seems to hang out there often.72K for half an hour-she was cute-I was drunk so I said fuck it.Pictures and a BJ video.

[url]http://steekr.com/n/50-17/share/LNK362748584762a4fb4/[/url]

[QUOTE=Hlover]Col Bog,

Great pics.

Are there many black chicas in Santa fe?

Do you recall the address of this chica?[/QUOTE]Hi Hlover.

Yes there are many black girls in Santa Fé.

I'm sorry, I can't remember the address, but if you wish to meet Paola, you can send me a PM and I'll give you her cell.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Bobisee]Col. Bog fingered her like a six pack.[/QUOTE]Hi Bobisee.

Yes, she was real nice.

In fact, she was so nice that I repeat her a few days later and that time, I had what I wanted from her.

Hope I can post this report soon, but I have a lot of things to do at the moment.

Thanks.

Hey fellas,

Does anyone know of a Spanish-language or otherwise local sex forum where the men of Bogota review and discuss the offerings of and their exploits in the city's rather prodigious P4P scene?

Thanks for any leads and I'll post any that I hear about on my own.

Hey fellas,

Does anyone know of a spanish-language or otherwise local sex forum where the men of Bogota review and discuss the offerings of and their exploits in the city's rather prodigious P4P scene?

Thanks for any leads and I'll post any that I hear about on my own.

[blue]Greetings Everyone,

Forum Members wishing to criticize other Members for not following what they consider to be safe sex procedures may do so only in the [url="http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1084"]Safe Sex Thread[/url].

Accordingly, I have moved the previous "safe sex complaints" to the [url="http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1084"]Safe Sex Thread[/url].

1. Members may not comment upon, criticize or confront other members on this subject in the general discussion threads. Any such "safe sex complaints" posted in the general discussion threads will be deleted without comment. However...

2. Members may not repeatedly post or otherwise taunt other Members regarding their refusal to follow safe sex procedures. Specifically, references to having sex without a condom may be made only by incidental reference and shall not be the focus of any report. Such "safe sex taunting" reports will be deleted without comment.

In other words, I don't want to hear anymore about the subject except in the [url="http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1084"]Safe Sex Thread[/url].

If you want to criticize another member for not following what you consider to be safe sex practices, then send him a PM.

Actually, I've been considering this for quite some time because I believe that it does no good to criticize members for not following what other members may consider to be safe sex practices for the following reasons:

1. It's a disincentive for members to contribute.
2. It never serves to change any one's behavior.
3. It almost always leads to arguments.
4. It provides a "cover" for Serial Antagonists to provoke other members.

To address the usual arguments:

1. If a guy wants to engage in sex without using a condom, that's [u]his[/u] risk and [u]his[/u] business.

2. If a girl wants to engage in sex without using a condom, that's [u]her[/u] risk and [u]her[/u] business.

3. If [u]YOU[/u] want to protect yourself from either or both of the aforementioned parties, then [u]YOU[/u] should use a condom for sex all the time and thus [u]YOU[/u] will be protected from the allegedly unsafe sex practices of the other parties.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]

People who critisize col bog for certain things, should question why they are visiting this forum. The guy gives us all in depth reports, and is always well mannered. Personnaly I find him to be no1 for reports, keep it up mate!

I have to Agree with you. ColBOg is quite a fantastic monger, writes well in english even though it is not his native language. a very intelligent man and very well travelked. I have had dinner with him and totally enjoyed his company. with respect to sex sin condom. If I can not have this by the third date I pass on the chica. You have a much greater chance of getting disease from a "nice" girl in a bar than a pro.
just my opinion.

Mel

[QUOTE=Mel365]You have a much greater chance of getting disease from a "nice" girl in a bar than a pro.
just my opinion.

Mel[/QUOTE]There is much truth in that.

But I'd also like to say thanks to whoever it was that pointed out the warts and what they may -- or may not -- be. I had never seen them before and now am educated. Likewise also the options for condoms available in Colombia

So thanks for those, and thanks too to Jackson for permitting this thread so long before archiving it off to obscurity.

[QUOTE=Johnath12]People who critisize col bog for certain things, should question why they are visiting this forum. The guy gives us all in depth reports, and is always well mannered. Personnaly I find him to be no1 for reports, keep it up mate![/QUOTE]Hi Jonath12.

Thank you for your support.

I like to know that some guys like my reports, this is why it's worth the effort to post.
But still, it's everybody's right to disagree with what other guys do or think.

That's democracy.

Let's keep it that way.

Thanks again for your good words, you lighted my day.

[QUOTE=Mel365]I have to Agree with you. ColBOg is quite a fantastic monger, writes well in english even though it is not his native language. a very intelligent man and very well travelked. I have had dinner with him and totally enjoyed his company.
Mel[/QUOTE]Hi Mel.

You're just too kind.

What can I say after this?

I think you deserve all those compliments you gave me much more than I do. When you told me about your life, I have found mine very ordinary.

I also did enjoy very much our supper at Club Colombia and will always remember when Claudia took her jacket off, I thought all the waiters would have a stiff neck! She was just. Delicious.

I'm still laughing when I remind this moment, I thought I was in a Benny Hill production!

Take care my friend.

Thank you,

I am enchanted with mi novia. I know she is only mine and she waits for me.

I am so excited to see her blonde hair at the arrivals gate at the airport. she is a very special woman, tall, beautiful, intelligent, and sweeter than sugar. I have never been called a king and she not only calls me her king but treats me like a king. she fulfills my every desire. I feel so bad that I am a monger but that is what I am. she is always number one on my list.

Safe travels my friend,

Please keep in touch,

Mel

[QUOTE=Mel365]Thank you,

I am enchanted with mi novia. I know she is only mine and she waits for me.

I am so excited to see her blonde hair at the arrivals gate at the airport. she is a very special woman, tall, beautiful, intelligent, and sweeter than sugar. I have never been called a king and she not only calls me her king but treats me like a king. she fulfills my every desire. I feel so bad that I am a monger but that is what I am. she is always number one on my list.

Safe travels my friend,

Please keep in touch,

Mel[/QUOTE]OK mel, you know whats coming now dont you:).

We wanna see some pics lol. only kidding, have fun with your new women!

Sorry,

Mi novias photos are not for publication. However we had quite a party on my boat in st martin. you might want to look at the posts for the last few weeks for st martin .

Mel

Does anyone know an older lady named Mercedes that pimps out high end chicks in Bogota? if so, please pm me her number.

Thank you

[QUOTE=Col Bog 1]Hi Mel.

You're just too kind.

What can I say after this?

I think you deserve all those compliments you gave me much more than I do. When you told me about your life, I have found mine very ordinary.

I also did enjoy very much our supper at Club Colombia and will always remember when Claudia took her jacket off, I thought all the waiters would have a stiff neck! She was just. Delicious.

I'm still laughing when I remind this moment, I thought I was in a Benny Hill production!

Take care my friend.[/QUOTE]Is there a picture of Claudia?

I went to the Candelaria to take some pictures.

I went to Lucy’s place but she was not there, so I just left to make my pictures from all these beautiful houses from the colonial Barrio of Bogota.

After maybe 2 or 3 hours, my camera’s battery was low so I went back to Lucy’s place but someone told me that she wouldn’t come today.

I then decided to go to the near barrio Santa Fé and have a look.

I made several tours, but couldn’t find any interesting (slim) girl except a girl that had refused to gave a BBBJ on my precedent visit.

At one moment I saw a black goddess, she really was a 10! A magnificent slim body, a nice face, long black hair, . I was amazed, but, she was with a guy and enter into a restaurant. Forget it.

I then decided to look for Paola, the girl I had a few days before and that I had badly negotiated. I found the house where I met her last time but she was not there.

So I remembered that I had her cell number and call her. She was in the house but having lunch upstairs. She told me that she’d go down immediately.

She was happy to see me again and gave me a good welcome kiss.

This time, I didn’t commit the same error and decided to negotiate downstairs with a cold head. In 5 minutes, we agreed for 100K for an hour + 15K for the room, with all her holes opened and no rubber!

We got in the room and I made a few picture before she would get naked and then the festival started.

She gave me some DFK (even if she doesn’t really like it), and I then perform a good DATY.

Then, without delaying anymore, I entered her in missionary. When I did, she made the sign of the cross and call her mother to protect her! I told her to stop and that we were both in good health and that the idea was to have some nice time and that she had to trust me as I trusted her.

She was very wet and I was having a great time, but less than 3 minutes later, I was in her ass.

I remained there for some minutes, she complained that it was a little bit painful, but I remained there and after 1 minute she was very wet in her ass too.

I then realized one of my fantasy, entering into her ass and pussy successively several time like a porno star! Unfortunately, it was too good and at one moment, I couldn’t get out fast enough and I had some drops coming out of my dick (yes, out of her).

I cleaned the drops and went back to DATY and was lucky enough to recover my full capacity in less than 5 minutes.

I then put her in doggy and once again: pussy and ass several times.

After a few minutes of this, I came like an insane, yelling and spreading milk everywhere. At that moment, she received a call and excuse herself for 5 minutes as someone was delivering her a tshirt. I then washed myself and had a 5 minutes rest while she was outside. When she came back I took her clothes off and gave her another DATY before I fell once again some nice stiff sign from my best friend. I then went on my back and she started her mighty BBBJ. She really is a queen of blowing, just amazing! But I had given her so much with the pussy and ass and I had come so greatly that I knew I would resist and not come again. I wanted her to finger me but she made the girl who doesn’t understand and I didn’t insist.

After 50 minutes they knocked on the door. So I tried to do the same as last Tuesday, going on my knees and putting my dick in her mouth, but there was nothing I could do, I wouldn’t come again.

So I washed my dick and start to get my clothes on, but I was still very hard and she tried to negotiate some extra time with me. I have to say that Paola always try to negotiate some more pesos, she was quite a pain in the ass with that and I told her that once negotiated, there was no way to ask for more pesos without offering something additional, and, that if she wanted her customers to be back, she had to change that.

But, this time, she had something to negotiate: extra time, even if she was dry, I was still very stiff and wanting to do her more.

She agreed to give me 30 minutes more for 30K, and this time, she paid the room. So I paid 100K + 15K for an hour and 30K for 30 minutes!

She explained me that she needs money to go to Cali to visit her family.

She paid the extra time and came back, took her clothes off, and jumped on me again.

She gave me her perfect BBBJ, then she mounted me Cow girl and reverse, missionary, doggy and all of it in her pussy and in her ass!

She didn’t want me to do her ass again but I didn’t pay attention and did her ass again and again.

We did it for the all 30 minutes. It was obvious that I wouldn’t come again but I just couldn’t stop. Once the game over, we washed again, got our clothes on, kissed good bye and leave.

Before I left, Paola proposed me to go with her to Melgar for a lover week end.

I wish I could do it. Then she wanted me to give her a job as house worker.

My wife would kill me.

I have made 2 movies from my second meeting with Paola:

1) 2008-05-10_Bog-PaolaAgain3HolesBBLanding.mp4
Size : 13,1Mo
Length : 1’44”
Quality : Average, due to poor light conditions and my own difficulty to screw and shoot the movie. Second part of the movie is BB ass fucking but you can’t really see it clearly. Sorry.

2) 2008-05-10_Bog-PaolaAgainBBBJISG.mp4
Size : 12,2Mo
Length : 1’34”
Quality : Ok, this girl is really sexy and sucks like a goddess.

[url]http://macle.voila.fr/index.php?m=c9ae77e8&a=7d397569&share=LNK97914860fdecc858a[/url]

Enjoy!

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No she doesn't work any more. The photos were all working chicas.

Col Bog: Excellent work!

Thanks for sharing!

Col Bog,

You are the man sir!

Picture quality is sufficient. Sound is just like being in the room. Its amazing you are able to shoot video while performing. Sure would be nice to see the face.

The nipples are amazing.

Plan to visit Bogata in October. Which Santa Fe club can Paola be found? Will you be in Bogata in October?

Keep up the good work!

My friend and I are staying in the Zona Rosa area and have visited the El Cedro JR on Calle82, and another Casa de Mujeres in the Zona Rosa area. From reading the posts, it seems that most of the street action is in the Santa Fe area. We are wondering if there is any street action in Zona Rosa or should we stick with the Casa de Mujeres. We are also wondering if it is worth making the trek to the Santa Fe area. And if it is, what is the distance form Zona Rosa?

We are unfamiliar with the city with this being our first time in Bogata, but we are very familiar with the monger game. We have visited Rio, San Jose CR, Sousa DR, and Lima PR on many occassions. The set up here is a little different without being able to locate a central location like a Club Help, The Del Rey, Club Classico and the club close to Calle de Pizza in Peru (Can't think of the name of the Club). Any information would be great, we are leaving this coming Sunday.

Thanks

For those looking for day action (9am-9pm) where Santa Fe is a bit quiet and the north is a bit expensive (as someone pointed out to me recently) chapinero is not a bed bet. Not sure at night there is a few Whiskerias that open up on the Carrera 17th around calle 65-67 or so but cant say whether they are any good. But I went to Julianas on Monday Carrera 19 #67-49 which was advertised in El Tiempo either the newspaper or the web site and it was pretty good. They had a bed which was a nice change from the massage tables in the north, was pretty clean and had a good lineup of girls, some average, 1-2 good looking and one petite stunner from Venezuela, Tatiana. Obviously picked Tatiana. She is a sexy little thing with a nice body, dyed blonde hair, nice eyes and teeth, nice senos and a nice GFE. I believe she offers anal, not sure about anything else. I usually approach other services once I get a feel if the girl is clean or not and maybe the second time around it works for them too. Anyway each to their own. Charge is 30,000 for 30 min and 60,000 for an hour so it was a good experience to rival Natalia at OneRelax but a fraction of the price. Will be going back again i'm sure. There are several more on Calle 64 for example, calle 64 #15A-31 which is also Julianas but I've been told the one I went to is better and cleaner(couldnt say if this true until I visit the others) I can only confirm that there is less people hanging about but that said I dont beleive the other places are dangerous during the day.

Anyway happy mongering those that come to Bogota.

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[QUOTE=Braves41]My friend and I are staying in the Zona Rosa area and have visited the El Cedro JR on Calle82, and another Casa de Mujeres in the Zona Rosa area. From reading the posts, it seems that most of the street action is in the Santa Fe area. We are wondering if there is any street action in Zona Rosa or should we stick with the Casa de Mujeres. We are also wondering if it is worth making the trek to the Santa Fe area. And if it is, what is the distance form Zona Rosa?

We are unfamiliar with the city with this being our first time in Bogata, but we are very familiar with the monger game. We have visited Rio, San Jose CR, Sousa DR, and Lima PR on many occassions. The set up here is a little different without being able to locate a central location like a Club Help, The Del Rey, Club Classico and the club close to Calle de Pizza in Peru (Can't think of the name of the Club). Any information would be great, we are leaving this coming Sunday.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Just hop in a taxi and have them take you there. Go around 6PM. It's about a 20 minute ride without traffic, maybe 40 minutes in traffic.

[QUOTE=Hlover]Col Bog,

You are the man sir!

Picture quality is sufficient. Sound is just like being in the room. Its amazing you are able to shoot video while performing. Sure would be nice to see the face.

The nipples are amazing.

Plan to visit Bogata in October. Which Santa Fe club can Paola be found? Will you be in Bogata in October?

Keep up the good work![/QUOTE]Hi Hlover.

Thanks for your good words.

You're really to kind for my poor posts.

I'm so sorry I have been stupid enough to not write the exact place.

All I can say is that you enter Santa Fé (the first red street when you come from north) from the Caracas Ave, and it's the second (or the 3rd ?) on your left. Paola works on the first Residencia on your left.

I you prefer, I can PM you her phone.

Take care.

[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen]Col Bog: Excellent work!

Thanks for sharing![/QUOTE]Thanks, I always appreciate to know that some guys like my stories.

[QUOTE=Hoof Hunter]Not that this needs to be stated, but be careful down in Sante Fe. El Tiempo (Bogota newspaper) just ran a story about a dude who was kidnapped and held for 800.000 pesos and a cell phone. This happened this weekend.

The cops only found him tied to a bed after neighbors heard his cries for help. I'm sure there's more to this story, but whatever. Just watch your ass down there.

Here's the story.

[url]http://www.eltiempo.com/colombia/bogota/2008-06-29/hombre-recupera-libertad-en-barrio-santafe-al-parecer-fue-secuestrado-por-800000-y-un-celular_4353341-1[/url][/QUOTE]Chained to a bed for only 800k and a cellphone, eh? That should spark interest in Santa Fe amongst our more conservative congressmen.

More seriously, I'm not surprised. Value and proven successes of my fellow mongers (respect) notwithstanding, I've long held that that part of town is too dangerous to be caught with your trousers down in. Those gun-toting teenagers in police uniforms are not there for our safety.

[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen]Chained to a bed for only 800k and a cellphone, eh? That should spark interest in Santa Fe amongst our more conservative congressmen.

More seriously, I'm not surprised. Value and proven successes of my fellow mongers (respect) notwithstanding, I've long held that that part of town is too dangerous to be caught with your trousers down in. Those gun-toting teenagers in police uniforms are not there for our safety.[/QUOTE]Agreed as to the danger down there.

IMO, he probably got set up following a streetwalker to a place (apartment/room) that SHE chose. And he probably was a Colombian local. Imagine a foreigner with poor Spanish skills in that situation in that area.

Guys, just be careful down there.

I made a stop in aruba on my way to Bogota and had a great session between planes with mi novia OLga. (see the aruba page)

I was greeted by mi novia here and the whole family at eldorado airport.

We went directly to our apartment and right to bed. I had to make sure that I did not smell like Olga so I took a very thorough shower in Auba.

I took a vitimin V on the airplane as I knew that mi Novia had been waiting for me for over 2 months. We went to bed at 8:30 and finished at 3 am. At noon it was more sexual abuse, I think I am getting too old for so much amor.

Tonight we went to salitre plaza and had kentucky and mc donalds and saw the movie secret agent 86. It was quite funny,

She is now warming up her motor in the next room. God give me strength.

Mel

Guys,

I never ever EVER go to the place of her choosing.

I don't care if you are in Bogota, Bangladesh, or Brooklyn.

Just don't do it.

[QUOTE=Mel365]Tonight we went to salitre plaza and had kentucky and mc donalds [/QUOTE]I believe there's a ring of hell reserved for those who go to Colombia and choose McDog burgers over El Corral.

Oh! And welcome back!

[QUOTE=Mel365]She is now warming up her motor in the next room. God give me strength.

Mel[/QUOTE]Go on mel! do her for the boys on this forum:)

We had the kids with us so we chose fast food.

My favorites in Bogota if we are alone is Cafe Bogota, Cafe Renault, and Pesquerilla Jamarillo.

Mel

Two Canadian tourists kidnapped by the FARC in Bogota.

You guys are lucky. The Govt. just foiled a bomb plot which was to take place in various areas of bogota due to the rescue of betencourt.

Addicted,

Where is El Corral?

Mel

I got away from my novia today and was driving around Bogota. I saw a hooters about 13 and 85 street and figured what the hell.

I went in and picked a table with a server with stunning hooters.

I took my tomr eating and had her to the table a number of times.

We talked quite a bit as it was early and the place was almost empty.

when the check came I asked if she would like a drink. damn she said yes!

We had a drink and went to a disco in the ZR and then to a hotel--this place is amazing.

Mel

[QUOTE=Mel365]Addicted,

Where is El Corral?[/quote]All over the place! My usuals would be K15 opp Unilago, K7 at 32, K19 with 116, but there's plenty more.

Though the best ones are "El Coral Gourmet". There's one of those in P93, another on k 15 with Cl 116.

[url]http://elcorral.com/ubicacion.htm[/url]

[b]monday, june 30: [/b] left medellin 6:30am using busline brasilia (50k, $28us), pulled into the capital at 3pm, about 8. 5 hours. it is a peculiar side-effect how the internal conflict of colombia, in forcing 77% of its population to the cities, has preserved the natural beauty of the countryside.

identifying the oldest (i. e. , safest) driver i taxied from the bus terminal to district candelaria for 9k. checked into a hotel for 25k, prívate room, bathroom, tv. at first glance the city is nicer, cleaner, spacious than i expected. there are maybe two or three homeless people around my hotel, compared to a couple thousand in medellin's centro.

[b] tuesday, july 1: [/b] shopped for and purchased an airline ticket. pulled 900, 000 from a citibank atm (carrera 7 y calle 16-36, edificio avianca). found a detailed map of bogota dc, scale 1:30, 000, by cartur, for 33k, to be found in any panamericana librería y papeleria store (one in the north is carrera 15 y 72-14). cheapest cialis i can find is on the corner of carrera 10 y av jimenez (23k each).

bogota being three times as populated as medellin makes for longer and more crowded bus rides. the transmilenio is, at first, a more complicated beast than med's straightforward metro. i note throughout the day the women on the streets are definitely not as pretty as in medellin. i suspect a lot of in-breeding -- or ugly pills are free.

[b] wedesday, july 2: [/b] first up is a tourist agenda to continue familarizing myself with bogota's streets. archaeological museum. botero museum. casa de la moneda. iglesia del carmen. iglesia de san franscisco. wandered historic candelaria. at one point i noticed an unusual intensity in the air, many individuals watching tv: fifteen hostages freed by the colombian military. with farc losing significant ground lately it is a historic time to be in colombia. even more important i learn taiwan is due to receive direct flights from china. step by sure step the rifts of the 20th century are healing over.

from my hotel in candelaria it is a fourteen block walk to the zona tolerancia (santa fe). at 5pm i strolled into the zona for a preliminary peek. lots of people around, shops open. there are an incredible number of transvestites present, some with huge breasts. as for women, lots of uglies and fatties. saw one cutie only.- and she was a glue-sniffer. no thanks. "hope the clubs have better! " after a full day of walking i head home for a good night's rest.

[b] thursday, july 3: [/b] gold museum. for potential souvenirs head to the area surrounding the police museum (calle 9 y carrera 9), a dozen shops selling military and police items.

at 6:30pm re-entered santa fe to begin systematically hitting the clubs. manzilitas (small stripclub), atunes (a classy bar), venus (small stripclub), encuentros (small stripclub), fiebre sex (large stripclub), paisas (large stripclub, packed to standing room only), montebello (small stripclub), llaneras (small stripclub). saw nothing i liked in any of them.

at 8:30pm took to the secondary streetwalker scenes across av caracas (carerra 13a between calles 19 and 23, calles 19-18-17 between carreras 14 and 10). all on display were horrid. back in the zona proper i grabbed a slice of roast beef for 5k.

more clubs. troya is a large popular stripclub, packed full. tamaguchi, large but empty club. aton's, decent two-tier setup.

9:55pm. the only slenders to be found are transvestites. i asked myself: "have i circled all around south america, come all the way to bogota, to become a fag? "

the gods must have heard my plea of dispair, sparing me a disastrous fate. for suddenly at the strike of 10 (pm) the first spinner walked by my eyes. i followed around the block to see her enter troya. not two minutes later a second spinner appears, entering aton's. ten pm is obviously the magic hour in santa fe.

11:15pm, re-enter troya. as per two waiters it is 40-50k for 20mins sexing here. next door, in aton's, i am quoted 25-30k for 15-20mins.

11:40pm, la piscina. nice setup. the waiter is on me, won't leave me alone. ok, give me a cola or a water. huh? you have neither? whatever. after a three minute look i left.

the street scene for women is dead. i am speaking of attractive women here, not moos. the trannies have moved up their positions and rule all streets surrounding the clubs. i walked out of the zona via carrera 15 to calle 19. the sidestreets are better lit than av caracas. at the corner of carrera 15 y calle 20 i see that a group of plastic-bag glue-girls have replaced the trannies. once on calle 19 (well lit, lots of people) it is safe enough to walk to candelaria.

[b] friday, july 4: [/b] curious about district chapinero i took to av caracas y calle 72 and began investigating. five hours later, some eighty blocks walked (carreras 14 to 17, calles 57 to 74), i had casa and club cards falling out of my pockets. information overload! see the next post for casa-club details.

of the thirty-four places in chapinero visited over two days i sessioned once, samantha-23, of tantra spa 67, 25k-25mins. removal of her top and kissing was an extra 15k (which i did not pay). mattress on the floor. a second-tier chica with no repeat session necessary.

8:30pm back in santa fe. what a boring street scene. the best piece of entertainment was watching a homeless guy.- a. k. a. , drool-boy.- have his garbage bag of cans stolen by another guy.

1am, after a couple stripclubs i exited the santa fe scene. everyone on the street is smashed drunk. cops are present here and there but the place feels a little riskier than normal. cut down carrera 15 to calle 19, walked home safely.

after two nights in santa fe what is my impression? the street chicas.- i. e. , real women.- make me feel dirty just looking at them.- and i have a pretty high tolerance for dirt (rio/quito). ugly, overweight, nasty.

beauty. i like slender, pretty spinners. medellin wins easily for a more plentiful bounty of fuckable chicas. in the clubs of santa fe (like paisas, atunes, el castillo) many chicas have pretty faces, big tits, but the back-ends are larger than i like. they also look a little harder than i prefer. these chicas resemble the colombian line-up of café rojo in quito. if i didn’t sex them in quito for $20us why would i pay more in bogota?

pricing. the law of south america to date is: don’t spend more than $20us for a session (226 chicas, 465 sessions). in the clubs of santa fe pricing starts at 25-30k for 15-20 mins (eg: aton's), with the next tier of pricing starting at 40-50k for 15-20mins (eg: troya), then the 60-100k tier of the high-end clubs. at best santa fe equals the price of medellin but you get half the time. medellin, with its casas and street-scenes, has obviously spoiled me with its 25-35k ($15-20us) and 30 minute sessions.

at this point i ask: with the exception of more tourist-orientated activities why come to bogota to monger when there is medellin?

[b] saturday, july 5: [/b] back in district chapinero to complete the rounds, 4pm to 8pm. while there are a lot of casa and club options in chapinero to screw in, (my definition of) quality is sorely lacking. keep in mind i hit chapinero on peak days, friday and saturday, both days in the late afternoon and early evening.- optimal times on optimal days.

only one session with a second-tier chica (samantha). three other second-tier chicas were visible (tantra spa 61, pussy house, stripclub on av caracas y 73-28), but at this stage of the game second-tier is hardly exciting.

at 10pm, back in santa fe, sessioned with street chica stephanie-23, a pretty-faced mulatta of cali, 25k-30mins, 6k hotel. no removal of top, cbj, handful of positions. tame, no repeat due.

popped into el castillo. nicest of the santa fe clubs. a large two-tiered room, central catwalk for stripshows. chicas ring the second tier, dancing. due to dim lighting most of the time it is difficult to accurately gauge quality. i spotted one spinner with a gent. due to high pricing i am not interested. left after an hour. peeked into doll’s house (empty), vegas’ second floor busy (no pretties).

for santa fe i say el castillo and atunes are the nicest clubs. best party clubs are troya and paisas, a distant third being fiebre sex. paisas suffers from human congestion. troya, with its circuit around the outside of the bar, is easier to walk. troya is my favorite.

it’s 1:30am. i am in troya, yet again ready to give up. on a walkabout. whoa, who is this? ! what a doll. we saw each other at the same time. my eyes sparkled. her eyes sparkled. within two minutes she excused herself from a dance, came over. mariana, 26 years, of cali. been in bogota eight months. pretty face, minimal makeup, casual clothes, no bubble tits, just a natural petite genuine beauty. we chatted, danced.

at 2:30am closing she sat on my lap, we talked business. 50k-20mins to sex in troya or 50k-60mins to sex in a hotel. a hotel it is, aware i was setting a new precedent, sweeping away two years of sub-$20us pricing.

she lives across the street from troya. at first we were going to get a new room but she invited me into her place of residence. we ended up settling there. sessioned 3:15 to 4am. a fantastic sexing, with the kissing taking it to the next level. the boner-drill transformed into a snuggle-fest.

i was dead set against an all-nighter initially, not my style (poor sleeps, contact lenses). her quoted 150k came down to 100k. then it came down to 70k. she obviously felt comfortable, trusted me, and [i]really[/i] wanted me to stay. an extra 20k for all night? how could i refuse so cute a gem?

[b] sunday, july 6: [/b] in the early afternoon had a second sexing with mariana between snoozing. 3:30pm, dressed, last hugs, departed.

[b] monday, july 7: [/b] i am planning on heading back to santa fe, see if i can scrounge up a streetgirl to screw, later on in the night meet mariana for more loving.

i have till july 24 for my departure. if anyone can suggest cheap alternatives in the bogota scene.- other than santa fe or chapinero.- fire away. because if there is no other cheap p4p scene to explore i can’t see myself staying here for the next 2. 5 weeks. i am contemplating returning to medellin from july 9/10 to 20/21, boinking my brains out on the cheap with hot babes.

for quality budget-mongering bogota blows.

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Santa Fe and Chapinero Districts: Maps & Details.

For the delight of all "Colombian protectionists" I have attached two maps to this post, one detailing the clubs and streets of Santa Fe, one of the casas and clubs of district Chapinero. If any of you don't like it submit a formal complaint to the World Trade Organization. Free trade, I say.

World Travel 69: I have tried to match your list format, copying all relevant info from the cards collected. There are probably a few errors here as I have so many pieces of paper in front of me. Feel free to attach the maps to any future Bogota List should you so desire. Same with the Medellin forum. If you would like the original bmp files for the Bog-Med maps just say so, as the bmps tend to be "cleaner" than jpgs for update purposes.

The Bogota list for Chapinero can be updated with:

Escort 69, Calle 69 # 15-25. __ Chicas. Prices: Tel: 606 2998. Hours: __.
THIS IS CLOSED. RESIDENCE.
Salon Fantasias, Calle 61 # 13-63. __ Chicas. Prices: ____. Hours: __.
THIS IS CLOSED.
Anonimas Bar, Cr 14 66-80, 15K servicios.
DOES NOT EXIST.

Updated information:

[b]Whiskerias / Strip Shows:[/b]

Chapinero, near or between Calles 74 and 60, Carreras 16 and 13.
1. OZ 74, Calle 74 # 16-79. _ Chicas. Prices: 300k. Tel: 217 3438. Hours: Monday to Saturday 3 pm to 2 am.
2. Kukylandia stripclub (a.k.a., Café Con Piernas, a.k.a., Pasarerla Show), Av 13 (Caracas) 73-28 piso 2, 8-30 Chicas. Prices: Beer 3k. Chica and room 20 min, 30k. Hours: 9am-3am.
3. Clapton Bar y Whiskeria, Av Caracas 73-46, Tel 321 3521, 5-10 Chicas, Prices: Beer 3k. Chica and room 27k 27 min. Hours: 1pm-3am.
4. Pussy's House, Calle 61 #13-64, piso 3. 5K entry. _ Chicas. Prices: __. Hours: till 2-3am.
5. Calle 61 # 13-65. 6 Chicas. Prices: 60k + 40k BBBJ. Hours: till 2-3am.
6. Free Women, Av Caracas 61-16, 2 piso. __ Chicas. Hours: Sun-Sun, 10am-3am.
7. Las Divas, Calle 61 # 13-79 (card says 13-75). 15-20 Chicas. Prices: 60k 30 min. Hours: till 2-3am.

New Stripclubs:
8. Gatitas (stripclub), Av Caracas 64-36, Tel 481 2653, 5 servicios x 20K, 2 ninas x 30K.
9. Salome (stripclub), Calle 64 13-88 piso 3, Tel 349 2183, 1 hour 60K, 2 chicas for 50K.
10. Nuevo Pasarela (old Chanteclaire), Calle 64 # 13-71 (door is 13-73) __ Chicas. Prices: ___. Hours: Sun-Sun 10am-3am.
11. El Tercer Piso (stripclub) Calle 61A con Caracas 13A-39, from 20K.
12. Sexirama Club (stripclub), Calle 63 13-78, 3pm-3am, 7 chicas.
13. El Club Pasarela Show (stripclub), Calle 60 13-20, Sun-Sun, 3pm-3am.

(I did not visit/confirm club number 1)


[b]Casas/Brothels: Chapinero[/b]
1. La Mansión de la Barbie Calle 49 #13-70. 6-8 Chicas. Prices: Entrance 1k, Chicas 20k 15 minutes, 40k 30 min., 60k hour. Hours: __.
2. Tu y Yo, Calle 52 # 16-74. _ Chicas. Prices: 30k 30 min., 60k hour. +10k BBBJ. Hours: __.
3. Local # 9, Carrera 15 # 104-03, mezzanine level. _ Chicas. Prices: 25k HJ, 35k HJ++, 60k Full. Hours: ___
4. Local # 10, Carrera 15 # 104-03, mezzanine level. _ Chicas. Prices: 25k HJ, 35k HJ++, 60k Full. Hours: ___.
5. Julianas #1, Carrera 19 #67-49. _ Chicas. Prices: 20K 20 min, 30k 30 min., 60k hour. Hours: 9am-9pm.
6-7-8. Club Reservado Mileidi (formerly Julianas #2), Calle 64 #15A-31. 4-5 Chicas. Prices: 20K 20 min, 30K 30min, 60K 60min. Hours: 9am-9pm. Two other bars along this strip are 15A-19 and 15A-25. Same setup, same prices.
9. Abejas, Calle 58 # 14A-53. ___ Chicas. Prices: ___. Hours: __.
10. Las Munecas, Av Caracas 66-09, piso 2, Tel 249 1181, 5 servicios x 20K, 2 ninas x 30K. 10am-9pm.
11. Lindas Universitarias, Av Caracas 66-67, Tel 235 5502, 20K-30mins, 10am-9pm.

New Casas:
12. Chicas Milenio, Calle 71 14A-20, Tel 249 2927, 312 5074, from 20K. 5-6 chicas.
13. Clapton Bar 2, Calle 64 15A-25, Tel 212 4936, 9am-9pm, from 20K.
14. Chicas 2000, new addy Calle 71 14A-27 (old addy Calle 71 15-77), from 20K. 6 chicas. Open till 8pm.
15. Tantra Spa 61, Calle 61 15-42, Tel 310 2652, from 20K, 10am-8pm.
16. Tantra Spa 67, Cr 15 67-24, Tel 212 4508, 310 2652, [url]www.scortservice67.com[/url], 9am-9pm, special promotion 25K-25mins and 1 free beer.
17. Fantasias, Calle 67 16-05, Tel 249 4279, 6 servicios x 20K, Mon-Sat, 9am-9pm. 4 chicas.
18. Chiquitas Club, Calle 67 16-25, Tel 606 2993, 6 servicios x 20K, Mon-Sat, 9am-9pm. 4 chicas.
19. Calle 67 16-13, same setup as Fantasias and Chiquitas. 3 chicas.
20. Abejitas La 63, Calle 63 16A-42, Tel 547 5083, 801 8117, 316 800 9700, from 20K.
21-22-23-24. Bar Las Divas De Javier, Carrera 17 66-32, Tel 310 343 3398, Sun-Sun, 25K-30mins. There are three other clubs here, same street, addresses 66-52, 55-41, 66-31. In mid-afternoon a couple of these bars may have 2-3 chicas present. These are primarily evening bars, 6-8 chicas in each after 8-9pm. Open till 2-3am.
25. Banos Turcos (Lindas Chicas), Calle 60 14-13, Tel 212 5740, 11am-3am, Sun-Sun, from 20K.
26. Las Profesionales, new addy Calle 71 14A-33 (old addy Calle 71 15-83), 5 servicios x 20K.
27. Video XXX, Calle 60 13-26, 9:30am-2:30am, Sun-Sun.
28. Sensaciones de la 55, Av Caracas 55-53, 9am-3am, 20K-20mins, etc., 2 chicas, run-down shithole.
29. Club Reservado Bar, Calle 64 14-89, 2 piso, 9am-9pm, 20K 20min, 60K 60min.
30. Whiskeria Jr., Calle 60 14-29, 8pm-3am.
31. Unknown bar, Calle 67 16-13.
32. Unknown bar, Av Caracas y Calle 47.

(I did not visit/confirm casa numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, 9, 31)

(A couple of the new casas may actually be stripclubs, hard to recall which place was which format.) Those casas under Calle 58 I did not visit. As a general rule the farther north you go the nicer the casa/club.

[QUOTE=Tungurahua]For Santa Fe I say El Castillo and Atunes are the nicest clubs. Best party clubs are Troya and Paisas, a distant third being Fiebre Sex. Paisas suffers from human congestion. Troya, with its circuit around the outside of the bar, is easier to walk. Troya is my favorite.

For quality budget-mongering Bogota blows.[/QUOTE]Bogota might not be cheaper, but I think the quality at clubs like El Castillo and Atunes is much better than Medellin.

My MO is to grab a girl out of Castillo, Vegas, Atunes or Paisas TLN with soem perico to keep the party going for about 100-150k. I love the spinners in Castillo. Friday/Saturday nights in Bogota are the best.

Too bad you are only a monger.

Picking up normal girls in Bogota is also tons of fun. Zona Rosa is a cake walk to pick up non-pros.

Thanks for the trip reports.

Tungurahua, you're a good mate. I've been asking for a map like this for months. Thank you for all your hard work on this topic. I'm sure many a monger will take pleasure from your maps. Cheers to you!

Thanks for the updates. You must spend a lot of time, like me doing this work. I guess you must be carrying a notebook in your pocket.
The maps would be nice to have.

I will PM my email address.

Tung,

Greatly admire your research.

The Quito information made mongering easy.

Plan visiting Bogota in October. This recent information should also make mongering easy. The Tantra Spa web site has some hot chicas. Do these chicas actually work there?

Keep up the great work and insights.

It was about 4 a.m. in Bogota in June. Most places were closed. We found this places called La Pantera. It's on a major street in the center or close to the center.

They had some people inside, also a few girls. We got drinks(including a bottle of Aguardiente). I started talking and dancing with one girl which did not look too bad, but also not really great to my standard. But I had no other choice for an early morning. Then they offered time with her at a room, for 50K peso or something like that. Which I thought to be a good price for a club.

However it turned out to be you get what you pay for. The room was very small - no bed! One friendly "manager" walked in the room several times, also brought a stereo, and was smiling a lot. When the girl got to the business, she got partially undressed, undressed me, but then she did not do much. She expected me to get a hard on right away. They she said that I look sick and she does not want to suck. Which was of course bullshit. All other girls I was with were giving only compliments about my physical condition. Also she mentioned that if I'd like we can go to my hotel. So it looked like she wanted to leave with me, so she gets more money. She was also quite drunk.

I did not want to deal with this anymore and left. Also complained to their stuff and demanded my money back. Of course I was sure they are not gonna do that, I was just curious what they are gonna say or do. I told them that I'm not gonna recommend their place to others. The stuff was very polite and "understanding" but they only only offered to come next time and promised a better service for the next time.

So I guess the lesson was not to go places without a good review, or you may expect bad service especially if the price is too low for such place. Also if a girl appears to be drunk or high you do not wanna deal with her. My problem was that there was no other choice. But it's ok, later I found better places in Bogota.

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I was in Bogota in June and on one morning visited the massage place called Abejitas or Abadesas, on Calle 104 and Carrera 15. It's on the second floor mezzanine of a small office/store building. Unless you know you would not guess what they do there. When I got up to the second floor walked next to the "offices", a girl looked at me from a partially opened door and asked what I'm looking for. I realized that is the place. And asked what they have for me. She told me to come in.Inside she explained that they do massage and for 80K or more they do sex.

Then she showed a room where they do it. It's really tiny. It has a small bed and a mirror. No shower. The bed is sow small that even I had problem fitting there.

I asked her to show available girls. They had about 7-8 girls And I picked the first one I saw when just came in. Her name was Stefanie. She was very beautiful, young the body is almost perfect. She did pretty good job massaging, then sucking and fucking. Even though the bed was very narrow, when managed to do it on top. But I was wondering what's gonna happen to that "cubical" if a bigger guy would be baning somebody. I'm about 170lbs and I felt that the the bed with walls were shaking. But overall I had really good time with her, she gave me her phone number. It would be much better if they had showers.

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Wow what a great report.

In my tastes, I like big asses and don't care about titties, so Medellin wouldn't be so ideal for me. It is true though that streetwalkers in BOG are generally trolls fit to give you nightmares. :P

Hi,

Where did you get the nice street maps?

The one I have of Bogota shows the streets so small I need a magnifier.

Thanks,

Mel

[QUOTE=Mel365]Hi,

Where did you get the nice street maps?

The one I have of Bogota shows the streets so small I need a magnifier.

Thanks,

Mel[/QUOTE]Tried google?

eg [url]http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=bogota&ie=UTF8&ll=4.682508,-74.096603&spn=0.005079,0.009398&z=17[/url]

[QUOTE=Tungurahua][b]Monday, June 30: [/b]

For quality budget-mongering Bogota blows.[/QUOTE] Great report amigo! I dig your humor in the reports :)

This i just got from Travelzoo. It is great deal if flying out of Miami. All thou if you read a bit more you will see that taxes and fees add another $44 each way.

J

$78 -- Fly to South America from Miami

Miami to Bogota, Colombia

Top 20 deal - sells out quickly!

Travel dates: Through Nov. 30

By Darlene Carenza
Travelzoo Staff

These days, a flight to South America can cost you upwards of $400. That's why we were shocked to find this fare from Miami to Colombia's capital city of Bogota for just $78 each way.

We found these fares valid for travel through Nov. 30 with the most availability in September and October.

Booking instructions:
- Click the link below
- Type "MIA" to "BOG" in the from/to fields in the blue reservations box
- Select your desired travel dates
- Click the "Price & Schedule" button and then click "Go" to retrieve fares

Click here to reserve on AA.com.

Book soon, fares may disappear at any time! Roundtrip taxes are approximately $88 additional.

Gentlemen,

I am going to visiting Bogota on a business trip the end of July.

I have traveled to most of the countries in Central America. I was in Panama a few weks ago.

I needed some help since I have never been to Bogota.

First, I am looking for a nice business class hotel that will be GF. I was suggested the Hotel Windsor House, The Hotel Capital Four Points, The Hotel Cosmos and the Hotel Bogota Royal. I am not sure where these hotels are located or what district they are in. Can anyone help me with a suggestion?

The list that Tungurahua posted recently is so larger for someone that has a very short time in the city. Can someone give me some suggestions? I am looking for a good working girl bar in the area of any of the hotels or near by.

Since I have never been to Bogota, I do not have anything to compare it to. Something that is similar to what I am looking for is a place like the Del Ray in San Jose or the Cigar Bar in Panama City Panama. Can anyone offer any suggestions?

Any of these suggestions do not have to be walking distance from my hotel, I usually take a taxi at night.

Also, what is the going rate in Bogota? Most of the Colombia woman I have met in other areas in Central America, like Costa Rica and Panama, are around the same price, but I would like some idea for Bogota. Can some give me the price range for ST and LT?

Thank you for your help.

Travel

Dear TravelWind

The hotels that you suggest are ok. But the places that report our friend Tungurahua are in the middle of the city or near to the middle like "chapinero". If you will go to the "Chapinero" or "Santafe", I recommend that you don't go alone, because this places can be something dangerous.

Near to the hotels you will go to a place like "Juan Pablo". The prices are near to 200k or more.

Best Regards

Travelwind,

Much energy and research has been compiled in the Bogota Lists section.

Please study this list since all of your questions shall be answered.

[QUOTE=Lima Busy]This young guy (uncanny resemblance to a well known actor) would have no trouble pulling girls from the street. That he chooses to shop for the next ¨Lupe¨ in these environs is his business and fodder for our ultimate entertainment. (David33's Lima-Forum, post233)[/QUOTE]Bonhead: "Too bad you are only a monger. " If it takes you four hours to nail a non-pro for me that is four hours too long. I monger for the simplicity, efficiency and cost-effectiveness of it. From experience I find 'free' is more expensive, more time consuming and I get laid less (fucks per day).

With mongering I can skim the sweetest sugar and skip the bitter unripened aspects, for the perkiness of youth and the wisdom of age are largely irreconcilable. When it is largely the hardware I want why frustrate myself with the software? Men may praise the character of a non-pro for the short term but I note few signing long-term contacts, including yourself. Call it deficiences in software programming that manifest with long-term use. This I can do without. So I do.

In short, we are doing the same thing.- pursuing the adventure of getting laid -- but I choose less tee-heeing, less hula-hooping, less playing house, for less cost.

Having said this, Lorenzo and I once noted on the Rio board "different stages of life. " He, being older than I, is willing to pay for greater comfort, conversation and a more paced interaction. No doubt I too will get there, some of my values will change with increased age, a desire to experiment and experience something new will grow -- but today is not that day.

As for a country like Colombia exporting its best products I think the opposite is true. I've thought this for all countries since I started travelling fifteen years ago. I love Chinese women and Chinese food but as soon as both leave the country both are irreparably altered -- and not for the better.

Likewise, our opinions of the Bogota and Medellin scenes, be it pro or non-pro, may never meet.

But thankfully the cold dark nights of Bogota are behind me, the warm gentle climate of Medellin is before me. I have time enough for one last push to spread the great sea of pink that populates this fine city.

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He has all your answers to your questions.

Which I have added to the List!

Thanks to Tung.

[QUOTE=J Europe]This i just got from Travelzoo. It is great deal if flying out of Miami. All thou if you read a bit more you will see that taxes and fees add another $44 each way.

J

$78 -- Fly to South America from Miami

Miami to Bogota, Colombia

Top 20 deal - sells out quickly!

Travel dates: Through Nov. 30

By Darlene Carenza
Travelzoo Staff

These days, a flight to South America can cost you upwards of $400. That's why we were shocked to find this fare from Miami to Colombia's capital city of Bogota for just $78 each way.

We found these fares valid for travel through Nov. 30 with the most availability in September and October.

Booking instructions:
- Click the link below
- Type "MIA" to "BOG" in the from/to fields in the blue reservations box
- Select your desired travel dates
- Click the "Price & Schedule" button and then click "Go" to retrieve fares

Click here to reserve on AA.com.

Book soon, fares may disappear at any time! Roundtrip taxes are approximately $88 additional.[/QUOTE]



With the total round-trip less than 250 RT and after watching Telemundo's Sin Senos No Hay Paraiso telenovela, I just might be tempted to go.

[QUOTE=Hot To Cool]With the total round-trip less than 250 RT and after watching Telemundo's Sin Senos No Hay Paraiso telenovela, I just might be tempted to go.[/QUOTE]Have they really retitled it? Used to be "sin tetas".

[QUOTE=Tungurahua] ... As for a country like Colombia exporting its best products I think the opposite is true. I've thought this for all countries since I started travelling fifteen years ago. I love Chinese women and Chinese food but as soon as both leave the country both are irreparably altered -- and not for the better ...
[url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]What a cool comparison!

I dig it, and agree completely.

Dear,

If you are lookinh for a Business Class Hotel, the recomendation is near to Andino Mall, I prefer beacause is safe and near to nice restaurants, pubs and disco.

The sex class action is near to Andino Mall, like 86 street. You can go to Casanova, Bar JP ( I think at the moment you can to look 30 0 40 girls in a normal day).

If you can to low price is not the place. The Tugurana list is very complet but I suggest you firt know the city and then look for santafe district or chapinero place.

Best journey

Hi to all.

I will be in Bogota in august, where would be the best place to get 2 bi-girls for bbbj, cim? Would it be easier with escort coming to my hotel? Girls from Massage parlors? or SW?And which price could I expect?

Thanks a lot to all you guys who makes it really easy to get infos.

When in Bogota in June, I visited the famous La Piscina. It's a nice place, but it looks like the things are not very straightforward there.

The club is divided for two parts. A bigger pool area and a bar area. They have separate procedures regarding drinks and girls. Unfortunately I did not know that and went directly to the pool area. They asked me If I wanted a drink, I asked for a beer, they brought a big (22oz? ) bottle of corona. They asked me if I wanna seat with a black girl who was sitting nearby, I refused, since I like lighter girls and wanted to see what else is there.

There were probably about 20 girls total, a few hot ones. I walked back to the bar area. On the way back they stopped me because I was carrying beer.they though I bought it in the bar. They do not let people in with drinks from outside the pool, so I had to tell them that the beer was ordered in the pool area.

Girls were also kinda divided, some in the pool area, and some in the bar. And a few walking everywhere. I tried to talk to one who was standing next to the pool. I think she was the most beautiful, but did not look friendly. I wanted to check if that's the case, and yes, she looked at me like she does not want to talk and soon went to the bar area. I'm still not sure how it works in the pool area. I did not see an guy coming to a girl and taking her. So maybe you are supposed to ask a waiter to bring a girl you like. In the bar area everything looked much simpler.

Finally couple of girls were passing by my table, and one was really hot, but not as good as the first one who refused talking to me. But this one was very nice and friendly. We looked at each other, and she sat next to me. We talked for a while, then decided to go to a room. The price was 80K for 1/2 hour. I said I'm gonna see how it goes, and them maybe get more time.

When leaving I paid for the beer and redbull, the price for two drinks was ridiculous 50K peso!

When paying for the girl, they also asked to pay for the room, I think about 12K peso in addition to 80K for the girl.

Anyway, the girl's performance was pretty good. I realized that we do not have much time and did not want to wait until somebody knocks the door, so I finished before time was up. The girl asked me why I finished so early, as she wanted more or she wanted me to buy more time. Right after she said that, the time was up. We heard knock in the door.

When leaving the club the guy at the entrance asked for a tip, like he is working really hard for me.

In conclusion, the girl was very good, the club is nice but expensive, they expect you to pay for everything from the entrance fee to the tips on the exit. The drinks are extremely overpriced. I think the best idea is not to go to the pool area and hang in the bar area. Also it's better to ask for the price of drinks before ordering.

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For you guys in Bogota you might want to consider getting in touch with this chica. If someone gets with her please make a post or send me a p.m and let me know how it went. She is fine!

[url]http://colombia.en.craigslist.org/cas/751664812.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Goga Fung]In conclusion, the girl was very good, the club is nice but expensive, they expect you to pay for everything from the entrance fee to the tips on the exit. The drinks are extremely overpriced. I think the best idea is not to go to the pool area and hang in the bar area. Also it's better to ask for the price of drinks before ordering.[/QUOTE]Correct. If you are going to sit at the pool area, do so when you are with 2-3 buddies and can split the cost of a bottle of rum or whiskey. It's not worth it if you are going alone.

You should have been able to bargain the girl down a bit, 50k would have been reasonable, but for 80k I would have expected at least an hour with her. Thanks for reporting back your experience.

[QUOTE=Goga Fung] ... When leaving I paid for the beer and redbull, the price for two drinks was ridiculous 50K peso![/QUOTE]Yep ... I think redbull is the costliest drink in Colombia, at least in the clubs, and the chicas know it.

If a chica tries to order one, I know she's a shark right away.

Depending on the situation, I'll politely refuse buying the drink, dump the chica and move on. :)

[QUOTE=UrbanWildlife]For you guys in Bogota you might want to consider getting in touch with this chica. If someone gets with her please make a post or send me a p.m and let me know how it went. She is fine!

[url]http://colombia.en.craigslist.org/cas/751664812.html[/url][/QUOTE]Looks too good to be true; no mention or even hint of any type of prepago or escort type service. Just a young, hot, fit, horny chick looking for one night stands. If anyone out there tries to hook up with her, I'd advise extreme caution. There're just too many red flags here in my book. The picture might even be a ringer. Just my opinion.

Schwmm

[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen]Have they really retitled it? Used to be "sin tetas".[/QUOTE]When I read about the telemundo version, it sounded like they were going to reshoot the series, so changing the name to pass usa censors would make sense also. Haven't seen it yet.

[QUOTE=Adictomujeres]Dear,

If you are lookinh for a Business Class Hotel, the recomendation is near to Andino Mall, I prefer beacause is safe and near to nice restaurants, pubs and disco.

The sex class action is near to Andino Mall, like 86 street. You can go to Casanova, Bar JP ( I think at the moment you can to look 30 0 40 girls in a normal day).

If you can to low price is not the place. The Tugurana list is very complet but I suggest you firt know the city and then look for santafe district or chapinero place.

Best journey[/QUOTE]Thank you for the information.

First, please provide the name of a reasonably priced hotel close to the Andino Mall.

Second, unable to locate the Casanova Bar on Tung's map. Please provide the address.

Look forward to reading your future reports.

[QUOTE=Schwmmr]Looks too good to be true; no mention or even hint of any type of prepago or escort type service. Just a young, hot, fit, horny chick looking for one night stands. If anyone out there tries to hook up with her, I'd advise extreme caution. There're just too many red flags here in my book. The picture might even be a ringer. Just my opinion.

Schwmm[/QUOTE]And fluent English speaker to bout!

Casanova's, Calle 86a # 14-55. 20 Chicas. Prices: 27k Chica Drink, 150 hour. Hours: __.

[QUOTE=Hlover]Thank you for the information.

First, please provide the name of a reasonably priced hotel close to the Andino Mall.

Second, unable to locate the Casanova Bar on Tung's map. Please provide the address.

Look forward to reading your future reports.[/QUOTE]

Making the homework. For your infomation; The streets of Bogotá have been laid out as a grid pattern. The carreras (streets) run parallel to the mountains from south to north. They are abbreviated as Cr, K and Crs.

The calles (also streets) run from east to west and cross the carreras perpendicularly, they are abbreviated as C, Cll and Cl. Others, called Diagonales, run diagonally east-west like the Calles, and the Transversales also run diagonally but south-north.

Avenidas, abbreviated as Av, are usually larger and main streets. The numerical system for the Avenidas is used but some have names like Avenida Jimenez de Quesada, Avenida Caracas, etc. Each address consist of a series of numbers, for example: Calle 92 # 15-34. This means that the house on calle 92 is 34 meters from the corner of carrera 15 towards the 16.

The Zhivago Bar also called Juan Pablo´s Bar is in the Carrera 18 No.93A-83 , in this place you find 20 or more chicas, the prices are around of 200k pesos for a ST of 1 1/2 hour, for LT or "amanecida" is more, 500k or 600k pesos.

The hotels must be near to Andino Comercial Center (Calle 81 Carrera 13), near to the Pink Zone (Zona Rosa calle 93), and you can find near massage houses like Abejitas (Cra. 14 # 83-23) in this place you can choose a chica for a massage with all included (150k pesos), the rooms are so little and no comfortable.

Tha Hotel Capital is too far. that is not useful for a toursex.

The Santafe Zone starts at Calle 19 to Calle 25 and Carrera 14 to Carrera 17.

To this place is recommended to go accompainied and not alone.

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Gentlemen,

Just another question.

I am thinking of staying at the Sofitel Victoria.

Does anyone know if it is GF or is there a fee?

In this area, are there any good working girl bars near by?

Since I do not know the city at all, the pdf list is great but a little to large for the time I am going to be there.

Can anyone help me with some suggestions?

Thanks

[QUOTE=TravelWind]Gentlemen,

Just another question.[/QUOTE]Hi TravelWind, the hotel Victoria (Carrera 13 # 85-80), is in the area next to the places that I suggest, but I don´t have information for that hotel. I can´t help you with your questions. If I have time you can call me and I can help you when you arrive to Bogotá. Anyway the places that I suggest are next to your hotel.

Best Regards

Sofitel Victoria Regia is 86 street with 13, near to Pink Zone and Andino Mall.

Does anyone know if it is GF or is there a fee? It has a fee per girl and when you arrive with the girl, in the desk ask for the ID (cedula).

Steps to introduce in Bogota very fast and safe, if you are new.

1. NIGHT Two blocks from the Victoria regia hotel you can find to Casanova (The North pool) and Extaxis. I think the best place is Casanova. The owner is Italian Men (very fat), but is very very expensive. The time is 11 pm to 4 am. The hous il like 12.

Always I drink to beer, any "gringo" ask for beer...jejejjeje Any girl knows the people like beer but is a colombian guy ask......is terrible.

In Casanova ask for Shopie is very nice girl, she speaks a something english.

Then go to Bar ZHivago, you can to see 30 girls in wendsday, the prices are around of 200k pesos for a ST of 1 1/2 hour, the house fee is 80k. This place is Ok 8 pm to 2 am


2. DAY Abejitas Masages Cra 13 with 82. You can go walking from the hotel, blocks from there.

Opening 9 am and closing around 9 pm. The best hour is 4 pm because all girls are prepared to receive the clients.

Ask for Mafe or Valeria, but you can choose. I dont like the rooms are smaller. You can go to the hotel and the house fee is 40K......I prefered that.


In the 79 street with 13 you find Avispitas masagge. I suggest to Stephany her mobile phone is 312.432.3711, but doesnt speaks....no paid more that 150k.

If you need adress look "El tiempo" news paper and see clasificated

Hilover: what is your budget?

[QUOTE=Goga Fung]When in Bogota in June, I visited the famous La Piscina. It's a nice place, but it looks like the things are not very straightforward there.

The club is divided for two parts. A bigger pool area and a bar area. They have separate procedures regarding drinks and girls. Unfortunately I did not know that and went directly to the pool area. They asked me If I wanted a drink, I asked for a beer, they brought a big (22oz? ) bottle of corona. They asked me if I wanna seat with a black girl who was sitting nearby, I refused, since I like lighter girls and wanted to see what else is there.

There were probably about 20 girls total, a few hot ones. I walked back to the bar area. On the way back they stopped me because I was carrying beer.they though I bought it in the bar. They do not let people in with drinks from outside the pool, so I had to tell them that the beer was ordered in the pool area.

Girls were also kinda divided, some in the pool area, and some in the bar. And a few walking everywhere. I tried to talk to one who was standing next to the pool. I think she was the most beautiful, but did not look friendly. I wanted to check if that's the case, and yes, she looked at me like she does not want to talk and soon went to the bar area. I'm still not sure how it works in the pool area. I did not see an guy coming to a girl and taking her. So maybe you are supposed to ask a waiter to bring a girl you like. In the bar area everything looked much simpler.

Finally couple of girls were passing by my table, and one was really hot, but not as good as the first one who refused talking to me. But this one was very nice and friendly. We looked at each other, and she sat next to me. We talked for a while, then decided to go to a room. The price was 80K for 1/2 hour. I said I'm gonna see how it goes, and them maybe get more time.

When leaving I paid for the beer and redbull, the price for two drinks was ridiculous 50K peso!

When paying for the girl, they also asked to pay for the room, I think about 12K peso in addition to 80K for the girl.

Anyway, the girl's performance was pretty good. I realized that we do not have much time and did not want to wait until somebody knocks the door, so I finished before time was up. The girl asked me why I finished so early, as she wanted more or she wanted me to buy more time. Right after she said that, the time was up. We heard knock in the door.

When leaving the club the guy at the entrance asked for a tip, like he is working really hard for me.

In conclusion, the girl was very good, the club is nice but expensive, they expect you to pay for everything from the entrance fee to the tips on the exit. The drinks are extremely overpriced. I think the best idea is not to go to the pool area and hang in the bar area. Also it's better to ask for the price of drinks before ordering.

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Some suggestions when you go to the pool:

In conclusion, the girl was very good, yes, but remenber call the girls and making some conversation. In the bar area the gilrs are looking for the clients to go.

When paying for the girl, they also asked to pay for the room, I think about 12k peso in addition to 80k for the girl.

No men is included in ther price, and if you two moments is like 140k. All included. Oral, sex (any position). 45 minutos

They expect you to pay for everything from the entrance fee to the tips on the exit. Don't give any tip; only the person who gives the drinks.

The beer and redbull, the price for two drinks was ridiculous 50k peso!

No men the real prices are: beer 17k and redbull is 10k. Sorry. Ask for the prices first. Hey. You paid your first time there.

How to know if real prices? Beer 2k, smirnof softdrink 6k, corona bottle 17k, rum 5k, rum 1/2 bottle 80k. Redbull 10k. Allways I

Show girl 60k no more. Like fresita or natascha

Advisor: when I was to the pool I arrived to 2 am and choise a girl and say to go outside the place and not paid the fine. I paid 150k or 200k to lt in my hotel. The girl go to the hotel. Is really easy beacause this hour the gilrs need money.

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Thanks for the information Lui.

I will call when I get there.

Do you have a suggestion for an English speaking guide?

I will look up the hotel.

Thanks,

[QUOTE=Lui123]Hi TravelWind, the hotel Victoria (Carrera 13 # 85-80), is in the area next to the places that I suggest, but I don´t have information for that hotel. I can´t help you with your questions. If I have time you can call me and I can help you when you arrive to Bogotá. Anyway the places that I suggest are next to your hotel.

Best Regards[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lui123]Hi TravelWind, the hotel Victoria (Carrera 13 # 85-80), is in the area next to the places that I suggest, but I don´t have information for that hotel. I can´t help you with your questions. If I have time you can call me and I can help you when you arrive to Bogotá. Anyway the places that I suggest are next to your hotel.

Best Regards[/QUOTE]Hi Lui,

I maybe forced to stay near the airport area.

Based on what I have read the cheaper areas for ladies are near the city. Is there other areas that are also good, but maybe a little more expensive?

Is there any good hotel bars or clubs where there are working ladies?

Some of the customers I am going to be visiting are suggesting hotels like the Raddison, Hotel Windsor and a hotel in the Salitre area.

I do not thing I am going to have a lot of free time till the night time and if I have to stay at one of these hotels I would really like to find a good working girl bar or club to do my shopping some where that is a close taxi ride from my hotel.

Let me know if you have any suggestions.

Thanks,

[QUOTE=Adictomujeres]Sofitel Victoria Regia is 86 street with 13, near to Pink Zone and Andino Mall.

Does anyone know if it is GF or is there a fee? It has a fee per girl and when you arrive with the girl, in the desk ask for the ID (cedula).

Steps to introduce in Bogota very fast and safe, if you are new.

1. NIGHT Two blocks from the Victoria regia hotel you can find to Casanova (The North pool) and Extaxis. I think the best place is Casanova. The owner is Italian Men (very fat), but is very very expensive. The time is 11 pm to 4 am. The hous il like 12.

Always I drink to beer, any "gringo" ask for beer...jejejjeje Any girl knows the people like beer but is a colombian guy ask......is terrible.

In Casanova ask for Shopie is very nice girl, she speaks a something english.

Then go to Bar ZHivago, you can to see 30 girls in wendsday, the prices are around of 200k pesos for a ST of 1 1/2 hour, the house fee is 80k. This place is Ok 8 pm to 2 am

2. DAY Abejitas Masages Cra 13 with 82. You can go walking from the hotel, blocks from there.

Opening 9 am and closing around 9 pm. The best hour is 4 pm because all girls are prepared to receive the clients.

Ask for Mafe or Valeria, but you can choose. I dont like the rooms are smaller. You can go to the hotel and the house fee is 40K......I prefered that.

In the 79 street with 13 you find Avispitas masagge. I suggest to Stephany her mobile phone is 312.432.3711, but doesnt speaks....no paid more that 150k.

If you need adress look "El tiempo" news paper and see clasificated

Hilover: what is your budget?[/QUOTE]Thank you for the inquiry.

I am more of a budget monger -- Santa Fe pricing.

Philosophically, since I live in the US, I stay away from US prices. Although, I will investigate your suggestions and make exceptions accordingly.

Please keep providing the good information.

Salitre area is dead for playing... Just too far away from the main pussy. (An area full of offices and hotels for businessmen who have to work and be really near the airport). Definitely not recommended.

Mongers,

Please provide feedback if it is safe to use credit cards in massage establishments such as: one relax Abejitas, Tantra Spa and bars such as: La Piscana, El Castillo, Bar Zhivago, Casanova, etc.

[QUOTE=Hlover]Mongers,

Please provide feedback if it is safe to use credit cards in massage establishments such as: one relax Abejitas, Tantra Spa and bars such as: La Piscana, El Castillo, Bar Zhivago, Casanova, etc.[/QUOTE]I'm sure some of them do, but only a sadist would do so. Or someone who wishes to deal with card cloning and the like. Otherwise, stick with cash.

Some of the places you named are already clip joints. And taking anything more than a throwaway cell phone, the cash you plan to use, and a copy of your passport to Barrio Santa Fe (La Piscina/Castillo/etc), is so not advisable.

Stick to using credit cards in reputable places. At a minimum, hotels. At maximum, mall stores and supermarkets, where it is charged directly in front of you. Even with restaurants, you open yourself up to being cloned. Doesn't always happen, but sucks ass when it does.

In one night in May, a friend of mine only used his debit card once in Bogota, at the Citibank ATM in Zona Rosa, right in the Zona T. There were bank guards outside, as usual. Wouldn't you know it, his card got cloned and used a few more times. Who knows how it happened, but it did. His bank reimbursed him eventually, but goes to show.

Monger on.....but with common sense.

[QUOTE=TravelWind]
I maybe forced to stay near the airport area.

Let me know if you have any suggestions.

Thanks,[/QUOTE]Hi TravelWind,

If you are forced to stay near to the El Dorado Airport I suggest you take a look ([url]www.ghl.com.co[/url]) the Hotel Sheraton(Calle 25B Av. El Dorado # 69C-80) or the Hotel Capital (Av. El Dorado # 69A-51). Both hotels are in the salitre area and next to the airport, American Embassy and Comercials Centers like Salitre Plaza and Gran Estación. But, like the friend DoloresThomas said this a dead area for playing.

The Raddison and Windsor are in the north area.

The Santafe area is more close to the Salitre area that the places that I suggested, but I think that to go to Santafe is bad idea if you go alone.

In any way you can go in taxi to Zona Rosa and visit that places.

In this moment I don't know a good and confindential guide.

When you choose your hotel, will look the best opcion for your shopping place.

Best Regards.

Did one of those used to be the Forte? If so, its built over bank, which used to be a favorite target for the FARC's bombs. They haven't targeted banks for a while, but I reckon they're pretty pissed right now, so caveat emptor.

[QUOTE=Hoof Hunter]I'm sure some of them do, but only a sadist would do so. Or someone who wishes to deal with card cloning and the like. Otherwise, stick with cash.

Some of the places you named are already clip joints. And taking anything more than a throwaway cell phone, the cash you plan to use, and a copy of your passport to Barrio Santa Fe (La Piscina/Castillo/etc), is so not advisable.

Stick to using credit cards in reputable places. At a minimum, hotels. At maximum, mall stores and supermarkets, where it is charged directly in front of you. Even with restaurants, you open yourself up to being cloned. Doesn't always happen, but sucks ass when it does.

In one night in May, a friend of mine only used his debit card once in Bogota, at the Citibank ATM in Zona Rosa, right in the Zona T. There were bank guards outside, as usual. Wouldn't you know it, his card got cloned and used a few more times. Who knows how it happened, but it did. His bank reimbursed him eventually, but goes to show.

Monger on.....but with common sense.[/QUOTE]Thanks Hoof.

While I do not like to carry cash, I guess its the most prudent method vis a' vis the serious threat of identity theft.

Plan to use cc only at hotels, reputable stores and travel agencies.

Again thanks for the wonderful advise.

I'm new to this particular forum and I am able to get the Bogota Hilton for $39 a night. Seems like a good deal .Is there a chica fee?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Hlover] While I do not like to carry cash, I guess its the most prudent method vis a' vis the serious threat of identity theft.

Plan to use cc only at hotels, reputable stores and travel agencies.

Again thanks for the wonderful advise.[/QUOTE]You can visit the most reputable hotels/stores/travel agencies and a single dishonest employee can easily clone, copy or simply write down your credit card numbers. Hopefully, you will get money returned, but then you have the problems of your credit file being ruined.

When you are asked the question of credit or debit, select credit, because then you receive alot of protection due to consumer protection laws for credit cards, you do not receive the same protection when you select debit.

Another advantage of selecting debit for example when you visit a gas station is by selecting credit you are asked to enter your zip code, which is alot safer then selecting debit and entering your PIN number. If someone is able to get your PIN, they simply clone the card, and your cash is gone.

Prepaid Cards: A Smart Alternative to Credit Cards

A smart alternative to credit cards is a prepaid debit card with the VISA, MasterCard, American Express, or Discover logo. There are two types: Stored value debit cards that can be reloaded, and giftcards, which expire when the initial purchase value has been spent. These cards allow you to enjoy all the benefits of credit cards, without the typical drawbacks.

Some things cannot be bought with a prepaid card. You cannot use a prepaid card to pay for subscription services (i.e., recurring monthly bills such as cell phone service or gym club membership), for gambling in casinos, and for travel on cruise lines and some international airlines. To rent a car, you must use a regular credit card or debit card before picking up the vehicle. You may use a prepaid card to pay for the auto rental when you return it.

You might not be able to use a prepaid debit card when a preauthorization hold is placed on the card, such as when you are buying gasoline at the pump. It all depends on how much is left on your card, and how much the vendor is reserving for the purchase.

Hey Lui,

I think I am going to stay at the Windsor. I think the area is better.

Do you think the hotel is GF?

Without going to far from the hotel, are there some good places around there?
It is close to the one mall I think whihc has the Bogota Beer Co.

Is there any places you can suggest that may speak a little English? My Spanish is not so great.

Thanks again for your help.

[QUOTE=Lui123]Hi TravelWind,

If you are forced to stay near to the El Dorado Airport I suggest you take a look ([url]www.ghl.com.co[/url]) the Hotel Sheraton(Calle 25B Av. El Dorado # 69C-80) or the Hotel Capital (Av. El Dorado # 69A-51). Both hotels are in the salitre area and next to the airport, American Embassy and Comercials Centers like Salitre Plaza and Gran Estación. But, like the friend DoloresThomas said this a dead area for playing.

The Raddison and Windsor are in the north area.

The Santafe area is more close to the Salitre area that the places that I suggested, but I think that to go to Santafe is bad idea if you go alone.

In any way you can go in taxi to Zona Rosa and visit that places.

In this moment I don't know a good and confindential guide.

When you choose your hotel, will look the best opcion for your shopping place.

Best Regards.[/QUOTE]

Please tell me how I can contact you.

I will be arriving in Bogota on Wednesday.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Guide Bogota]If you are interested in knowing some interesting places in Bogota I can show you around. Just send me a PM.

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[QUOTE=TravelWind]Please tell me how I can contact you.

I will be arriving in Bogota on Wednesday.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Hi TravelWind

The Windsor is so far to the airport, but is a good hotel. Generally the hotel send you a car when you will arrive, and I think that this hotel get paid for any person that you invite to your room to stay the night.

You can write me to [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue] You understand.

Be careful to use a unknown guide. Consult with your hotel for this service.

I thought that you know something of Spanish, for your previous reports from Panama and others latin places. That will be a problem, the chicas are accustomed to request more money to the foreigner, because they think that you distribute a lot of dollars, and the price negotiation for her services can be dificult.

Well Arrive!

Anyway this is a part of the adventure.

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On the 31st of July.

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Okay, so, here’s the first of 2 or 3 reports on my 3 week trip to Bogota. I figured I better break it up in order to make sure I don’t forget anything.

Be prepared! : In the lead up to the trip, on the advice of someone on this board, I started trolling Colombiancupid.com and Cybercupido.com. Both excellent sites, though, I’d argue the former seems to have a lot better bells and whistles and more quality selection than the latter. Colombiancupid.com is also English-speaker friendly. Anyway, you can read my last post on this thread regarding my methodology on narrowing down my selection there.

Situation: In Bogota for 3 weeks (2 wks business, 1 wk pleasure). Staying with 2 guys in apartment. I know one guy from work, don’t know the other. Don’t know if either is a monger. Apartment in vicinity of Zona Rosa. No one has a car.

Cell Phone: An absolute must to keep up with chicas if staying over a long period of time. Even if you’re only straight mongering (paying each time), you will inevitably run into a girl you want to see again and again. If you get her number, you can arrange her to visit you and skip any club exit fees (salidas). As it was, the phone that I had from last year did not work. It was functional in that it was still receiving the tower signal, but, I think since my minutes had run out or it hadn’t been active in so long it was discontinued. Went to a Comcel store in Andino Mall to try to get it activated, they said I needed to go to a technical service location to get that done. Didn’t feel like bothering with that, just used a cell phone from work which worked fine. No issues, but didn’t get it till my 3rd day on the ground, so, I couldn’t call any of the chicas whose numbers were in my phone from last time for 3 days.

Landline Phone: Okay, here’s something different: the string of numbers (I. E. 10 digits) that you dial on a cell phone are different than dialing a landline (7 digits). You have to dial 031 then the number to call a landline from a cell and my roomie says you need some kind of special subscription to be able to dial from a landline to a cell.

Long distance (back to the states): With obligations at home, I needed a way to call back to the US regularly without spending an arm and a leg (interesting how we’ll spend an arm and a leg on P4P, but whine over a few cents a minute for phone call). Got hipped to Yahoo Messenger, where for 1 cent per minute, you can call anywhere in the US (and I think other countries). You charge up the account with a min of 10 dollars, get your microphone/headphone headset for 8-10 dollars and you’re good to go, just type in the number into the address screen and hit enter and you’re dialing. Not a bad deal, just need an internet connection.

Last trip recap (posted Jul 27 07): I took a trip last year and everything was great! I had 6 chicas in 6 days. Nothing like the numbers you can post in DR, but, the prices are cheaper there too! I pretty much stayed only at Casanova’s (I called it La Piscina mistakenly) and Copacabana’s and I don’t think I spent over 200, 000 pesos for any one girl. I stayed in La Boheme Royal Hotel in Zona Rosa. I met one non-pro chica that I didn’t bone.

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week 1: after about three days on the ground, i felt out the other two guys i was staying with and found out that they were down with the hobby as well. albeit, they were not as vigorous about mongering as i was since i was only there for a limited amount of time. so, first night of hobbying, i walked over to casanova’s (near corner of calle 86 and avenida 15). i went kind of early and on a tuesday and there were only a few. like 5 girls in (about 9:00pm). the first one i laid eyes on was an absolute 10! she had one of "those" bodies. you know, the ones that colombian women are famous, or should i say, notorious for? i sat down and immediately called her over. her name was yulhiet (juliet) and was from medellin. we talked for awhile with my limited spanish and her non-existent english. eager, i got to the price after about 10 minutes. she wanted 400, 000 colombianpesos (cop). a little over $200. i knew that if i paid that much for her on the first night, every girl in the place would expect that amount as well. that, and, if i took her from the club, i’d have to pay the bar/exit/salida fee, which i am determined to avoid doing if at all possible. i got her down to 300, 000 cop and got her phone number for another day for an off hours romp. i sent her away and started eyeing this other fine ass chica. she was sitting all alone and had this aire of "sophistication" about her. she was dressed in a very nice cocktail-type dress with very conservative heels and was sipping on some wine when we made eye contact. she smiled at me and looked away in a shy manner. i asked her to come over and, oh my god! this girl oozed sensuality. she sat down, looked me up and down from head to toe, focusing on my groin area, then gazed into my eyes, cracked a smile and in broken english asked, "what you like me to do for you? " then licked her lips. we talked for awhile and she then wanted to hit me up for 300, 000 cop. i got her down to 250, 000 and got her number. for tomorrow! her name was arianna and over the course of this trip, i would see her a total of four times. yes, she was that good. she had a different body type from yulhiet, but, it was nonetheless incredible and very "blessed" in all areas. there were a couple of others that i saw there that night, but, i left early to get rest for work in la manana.

i called ariana over at about 8pm. she had her way with me. notice i say she had her way with me, not the other way around. when she took off her clothes, walked by me and looked over her shoulder with a smile, i was speechless. knowing the great experiences i had in colombia last time, there i stood before what could only be described as a sexual goddess with a body that most "video hoes" would envy. she started by giving me a very slow, sensual blow job that got increasingly more vigorous as she got more into it. lots of spit, great suction, perfect eye contact. she blew me from 4 different positions. this lasted a good 30 minutes. ready to pop at any second, i had her lay down to give her a massage in order to enjoy feeling on her ass a little bit. her ass had the perfect combo of sponginess and firmness. eventually, i slid in from behind (not greek) and we both immediately let out sighs of ecstasy. other positions we covered were mish and doggy before returning to that original position where we both lost it at the same time. i actually had a tear roll down my cheek. yo, it was that good. we went at it for about 2 hours. straight! i know i looked at this girl at least 3 times and wanted to ask her to marry me (not for real, that’s just how much i enjoyed her). this was one you just don’t want to let go. but, true to the game, i kicked that ho to the curb and fell fast asleep. and yes, i slept like a baby.

arianna
36c/24/42
age:23
hair: brown/blonde
eyes: brown
bbbj: she was sick wit it!
greek: no, but, i think she’s open to trying with more encouragement; she let me play with the asshole but couldn’t put anything in; she said she hadn’t ever done it…yet!
photos: yes; look at that one of her ass bro!
occupation: hooka!
positions: mish, doggie, lazy doggie, standing up against the wall, cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, cowgirl with me standing
phone number:

next night, i called yulhiet. she came over at about 7:30 and seemed a bit distant or reserved. i think it was because she had to sign in to get into my building. so, i tried to get her to relax with some music and a massage. she really responded to the massage and was very vocal about it. her ass was so plump and rotund that i lost it after about 20 minutes. i was a little disappointed (as i’m sure she was), but even moreso that she just got up and left without a second cup. arianna, to her credit did offer as much as i could stand. at the same time, with yulhiet, i came so fucking hard, i really didn’t have much left in me after that one. i just would have liked to explore her a little more. the time we were together was very sensual and i was glad that i chose her. i told her that i would definitely be calling her again and that she should be ready for a long haul. no complaints, just one of those days.

yulhiet
36d/24/38
age: 24
hair: black, mid-back
eyes: brown
bbbj: didn’t even try
greek: no
photos: you know it!
occupation: hooka!
positions: mish, doggy, scissors, lazy doggy
phone number:
other: she had really nice skin, no marks at all, a very nice skin tone and a sexy, not too tight stomach.

by now, we had reached thursday night, the beginning of the weekend for most in bogota, which meant the girls would be out in force. now, apparently, the cultural norm is that fridays are for the mistresses and saturdays are for girlfriends/wives. i guess that makes thursdays for the pros, right? well, that’s how i took it! i decided to explore some of the casas within walking distance; addresses, i have no idea, but, there's about 6 or so places in the vicinity of zona rosa.

in the zona rosa area, if you are walking, just look for the places with bright or neon lights and guys in suits outside trying to get you in. if there's a bunch of guys (not in suits) trying to take you to a place with chicas (maybe handing out cards), you know you're close. they get a commission for getting new people in.

- casanova's (calle 86 and near ave 15)
- copacabana's (right next to casanova's)
- beverly hills (across the street from casanova's/copacabana's)
- lancaster's (down ave 15 from the above spots and next right)

these were the four i went to that night. i only stayed for a quick minute at casanova’s to see if there were any stunners. there weren’t, but, i was early. copacabana’s and beverly hills were seriously lacking for good talent. lancaster’s however, well, let’s just say i don’t think we give lancaster’s enough attention on this board. you see, lancaster’s stays open all night, when some clubs close at like 2am, lancaster’s closes at 6am. so, all the girls go there when they’re done at their first club. hence, when you go late at night, you get a great selection. now, keep in mind, that i was still on the lookout for a girl that i saw from my last trip (her name was paola if you care to reference my last year’s report). wouldn’t you know it, i ran into her at lancaster’s. i saw her on my way to the bathroom and it was like two old friends reunited. or so i thought. she asked me to wait for her for a moment and she’d be right back. the club was so packed, i didn’t see that she left with another guy. so, 2 hours later, i’m still sitting there like a dumbass, turning down one hot chica after another thinking i’m gonna bone my little paisa barbie doll. i got a couple of numbers, but ended up leaving empty handed. i revisited copacabana’s as they were about to close and they only had about 2-3 girls worth a damn remaining. i rescued one girl, karen, from a very large, very aggressive guy who was manhandling her. she seemed happy to come over and talk to me so i thought she would be a good time. i ended up meeting her around the corner to avoid the salida. we get to my apartment and she was very distant, tired, or whatever the fuck you want to call it. point is, she wasn’t on with the a-game. her ass however, was again, incredible! i was definitely blessed with the choices i was able to make while in colombia, i must say. anyway, i fucked her for about 40 minutes but, she was really just not into it and not very responsive, so, i ended it. oh well, can’t win them all. she refused to let me take pics, so, i took some of her ass as she was leaving and waiting at the elevator and while she was looking in the bathroom mirror. now you’re world famous *****!

karen
34c/24/36
age: 23
hair: black, mid-back
eyes: brown
bbbj: no, cbj
greek: no
photos: candid
occupation: hooka!
positions: mish, doggy
phone number:
other: very cute girl with a slammin body; too bad she’s a *****

saturday would be my first weekend day in bogota and i had a couple of non-pro options. the first was a hottie from colombiancupid.com. alejandra, 24y/o. she came over to my apartment around lunch time and waited in the living room while i got dressed. this girl was gorgeous and seemed like the total package: great conversation, hot body, intelligent, spoke a little english and seemed to be into me. we took a taxi to a place called mr. ribs which served, well, ribs. good food. (did you know in bogota, they give you little plastic gloves to eat bbq and hot wings? i tried to use them, but, it was too distracting and i had to revert to my savage american ways) she gave all the signs of being interested while on the cab ride back, so, i reached over for a kiss, which she jumped on and gave me a great frenchie right in the taxi. her lips were perfect! all i could imagine was the bbbj! i left her, sure that we would hook up eventually. alas, it was not to be. she never answered or returned any more of my phone calls. the last time i called her, about a week later, a guy answered and said that she "wasn’t available. " that confused the shit out of me, as now, i was wondering if she was a pro. whatever, there’s plenty more hoes to spend my time on. later that night, went to a party with some friends. i was supposed to be hooked up with my friend’s girlfriend’s best girlfriend, but, she was a *****, so, i ignored her after knowing her for about 30 minutes. apparently, she thought that since she knew english, she knew everything about american men. i don’t have time to be proving shit to these hoes. i got condoms that need to be used. there were a few single hotties at the party. more effort and i probably could have made a connection with the 9 in the room, but ended up with a 7 as she actually showed the most interest in me. she didn’t speak english, but, my spanish was passable and there were enough translators in the room for those few words we got stuck on. anyway, we exchanged info and agreed to meet again later in the week.

after we got back, i was feeling the urge. though i wasn’t sure if i’d partake, i decided to check out juan pablo’s (hint: cabbies don’t know it as juan pablo zhivago’s, just juan pablo’s- off of calle 93). this place was great. large bar, lots of couches to sit at and the women were phenomenal. i was actually so overwhelmed when i walked in that i didn’t remember the cardinal rule of mongering, look at all the choices before making a selection. i ended up going straight to the back and sitting in front of a hottie in a white, toga-type dress that stopped just below the ass, so, with every move of her hips, you got a peek at the possibilities. her name was alejandra, 22 y/o from venezuela! she was a real cutie and had these hypnotic hips and legs that, along with her great smile, just made me melt. she was a very nice girl to talk to as well. she spoke a little bit of english which was refreshing. after about 45 minutes of talking and watching her dance, i decided to pull the trigger for 200, 000 cop. while she was in the back changing, true to player fashion, i was scoping out the other chicas. i walked by a table and my jaw dropped. 2 hot blondes standing next to each other with 38dds easy. one of them an absolute knockout—a 10, the other, eh, a 7 or 8 in the face, but, still a killer body. i noticed they were actually looking at me when i noticed them. the 10, heidi was only 19 y/o. the other, alejandra, was 29. i told heidi how beautiful i thought she was and that i’d be back to see her. just then, the venezuelan girl returned with a look of wondering what was going on and if she was losing a sale. i reassured her, and we left. she was the only one i ended paying the salida for.

alejandra was a real sweetheart. after we got to my place, she took a shower, came out and started dancing to the music. she had no problem with photos. with clothes on. she revealed that she had done porn movies which was cool (i forgot to ask for movie names or urls). she gave a great bbbj and some awesome booty-flapping cowgirl. we went at for about an hour before i called it quits cause i was just too exhausted to keep going and i could have gone all night with this girl. she was awesome. i would have seen her again, but she was a little lacking in the tits department.

alejandra venek
34a/24/36
age: 22
hair: black, mid-back
eyes: brown
bbbj: great!
greek: no
photos: yep
occupation: part time porn star
positions: mish, doggy, cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, spooning
phone number:
other: very cute girl with a great body

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Week 2: Next night I hit up Juan Pablo’s again to get with Heidi and her friend Alejandra. Found out they were both from Medellin. Take note of the trend. I talked with them for about 45 minutes and they offered me 200, 000COP each, but, I had to get both of them. I really didn’t want to have the two because I’ve found that 3somes, no matter how well intentioned often leave a lot to be desired. That, and I didn’t want to get overtaken in an apartment by myself by some banditas. Apparently, they said that they were doing it for "safety" reasons. I decided to go for it, got the digits and was set to call the next day. Left Juan Pablo’s for Lancaster’s to have a look around. I saw some good talent there, including my old flame from my last trip, Paola.

I talked to her for a while and soon got to the business end of things. Now, based on our relationship last time, I thought I might get a freebie or at least a deep discount. Alas, it was not to be. She started at 400, 000 and would not negotiate. I promptly told her to leave because she insulted me. Her shit was good, but it wasn’t THAT good! Talked to a few of the hotties there, including one ugly one. Well, I don’t know that she was really ugly. She had a smoking body, was from Cali, but had a mouth full of metal that kinda distorted the shape of her mouth. Her name was Annie and she was 25. She told me that she saw me the first night I came and that she really wanted to fuck me! I asked her the price and she told me to name a price. I wanted to say 150, 000 COP, but offered 200, 000 which she accepted. I took her phone number down and promised to call her. The only reason I was even talking to her was that by that point in the night, I was stone shitfaced. I never called though I thought about it many nights as I remembered her hot body. Then I thought about my rod getting snagged on her braces and I reconsidered! That night I went home alone. No problem.

Monday night, I called over Heidi and Alejandra. They both were looking really hot! We started out with dinner at Taurus. Near Zona T. They pissed me off at first because they wanted to take a taxi from the apartment which was only like 6 or 8 blocks away, then, they wanted to go to some other restaurant way out in another area—that’s where I pumped the brakes, I wasn’t about to get outside of the area I knew with these two. We had a great meal, taxi’d back and they began to warm up. They started going at with each other and it promised to be a great night. However, it ended up being far less. First off, they wanted to do CBJ (strike 1). I let Heidi go ahead with that shit, but, my rod was not responding because I don’t like that at all. Then, I rolled Heidi over to play with her plentiful ass. After awhile of that, I had both girls oil up each other’s tits. THAT was hot to watch. Then, I moved in to kiss Heidi and she wasn’t having it, not even without the tongue (strike 2). After that, I pushed (not literally) Alejandra to the side so I could have my way with Heidi. By now, I was so worked up, I knew I was gonna pop quick. Sure enough, after about 10 minutes in lazy doggy and 5 of mish looking at her gorgeous 19 y/o face and hearing her moans, I lost it! I kind of assumed that this was all I was gonna get from Heidi, what I didn’t expect was for Alejandra to start getting dressed also. (strike fucking 3) So, this ***** basically got 200, 000 for showing up and rubbing the other girl’s tits (and she joined in on the half assed CBJ). However, rather than get pissed off (I knew I was going to fuck the dogshit out of Heidi the next time I saw her), I played it cool and let them leave without any problems with security. I was pretty upset, though. I did get my nut and slept well, though!

Heidi
34DD/24/36 and about 5’2” tall
Age: 22
Hair: Blonde, mid-back
Eyes: Grey
BBBJ: CBJ
Greek: No
Photos: Reluctantly
Occupation: Hottie
Positions: mish, doggy
Phone number:
Other: Perfect face, perfect body; if I could build a ***** to fuck every day for the rest of my life, she would be it!

Next night, I called over old reliable. Arianna. She showed up with bells on looking hotter than ever. I DATY’d her and she totally let loose after that. She performed as phenomenally as the first time and stayed a little longer for some conversation. Great girl!

On Wednesday, I took the night off, but still hit up Casanova’s, Lancaster’s and a place called Lolo’s (on Ave 15 1 or 2 blocks before Lancaster turnoff on left side). Lolo’s wasn’t a bad place, as far as the actual place itself, but the girls left a lot to be desired. This time, I was with one of the guys I was staying with. First time mongering with him. He was a little tipsy and kept calling over fucked up looking bitches. I tried to be a good wingman and be his conscience, but, in some cases I just couldn’t. I did keep him from taking home the girl with a wrist brace and braces who kept insulting us. She was doing it in a teasing way that was kinda cool (one of the guys kinda thing), but still, I knew we could find better at Lancaster’s. We went over there and he found these two spinners. One old and okay and the other young (18) and hot. We also saw Paola again, but I didn’t even talk to her. My buddy was interested, then I told him her price and he looked at me like I was the hoe. That’s her fucking price not mine! He said, maybe one day cuz her ass was so perfect. I talked to another 2 or 3 girls, but none whose numbers I wanted to take. They all seemed really flaky to me that night for some reason. Anyway, I left alone and he with his two girls and all was well in the mongering universe.

Thursday I called Yulhiet over again. This time. It was on! We started out with some wine and massages for both of us. Then, I fucking RAILED her ass! She was screaming and shaking and wincing and moaning (so was I to be fair). ALL positions were covered, she did some great DFK’ing. We never got to BJ at all. I’m sure it would have been great, but, the rest of her was so awesome, I never even thought about it! I DATY’d her right after the massage and she was in ecstasy. After the 2 ½ hour sex romp, and we recovered from our heap of sweaty bodies, used condoms and baby oil. I asked her if she wanted to get something to eat. She said she was hungry but was a little embarrassed to go out with the clothes she had (hookerish shit). No problem with me. I was starving too, but didn’t feel like going anywhere. So, I ordered delivery from Mr. Ribs. While we waited for that, we watched reality TV shows, talked, laughed and fondled each other. It was really great. After we ate, she stayed another 45 minutes and just hung out. Naked all the while. It was really like having a regular girlfriend over.

Friday was the first day of my vacation time. No work during the day! So, I set up an afternoon lunch with a Colombiancupid chica I chatted up named Yulieth. She had a really beautiful pic that showed a very genuine smile attached to some gorgeous eyes and, at worst, an average frame. I walked over to Yulieth’s workplace near Avenida 15. She works as a telemarketer. It was difficult to find the place. As I got close, a FINE as morena approached me and asked if I was looking for Yulieth. Thinking dividends with Yulieth would far outweigh this girl, I didn’t try flirting with her (co-worker), who guided me to the right building as she left for lunch. Yulieth’s pics were real, but, not a good indicator of what she looked like. Though her smile was pretty, her lips were closed and hid some very yellowish, dead looking teeth. She was a little thick, but had a flat stomach. Not very feminine in that she seemed to be very loud and only took care of basic appearance stuff (ignored yellowed fingernails, clothes were a little dingy, hair wasn’t the best), although she was very nice and well made up. She also looked a little older, like she had had a rough life. After her coworker returned from lunch, she was able to leave so we could have lunch. We went to some little chicken place around the corner. Great food, obviously really popular with the locals around lunch time. Although we talked cordially and I tried to be nice, I think she could tell I wasn’t interested. There was no talk of future meetings or phone calls and we parted with a hug and peck on the cheek. Luckily, I had a backup ready for that night!

Friday night I met up with another one of the Colombiancupid chicas—Monica. Her pic showed a young, morena with huge tits and nice hair, so, I was really excited. Well, what I got was a big ***** with fake, hard hair that was more black than morena. First thing that pissed me off was that she wasn’t in the spot where we were supposed to meet, but was on the phone trying to explain to me that she was. In Spanish, which, mine ain’t the best. Once we finally met up, I was disappointed, but, being committed at this point, but not locked in with any cash requirement, I figured what the hell? ! She was full figured, overweight, but not too fat. Not REALLY doable, but okay to be seen in public with, get a BJ from, play with her tits and that’s about it. If her personality was right. Well, she was nice, very funny, feminine and outgoing, but, I just wasn’t feeling her. I think because she was so far off from what I was expecting. The pictures were of her, but were either taken in very strategic poses or she gained a lot of weight in a short period of time. She even showed me pics in her cell phone of her in lingerie and the date stamp was within 3 months. Some were nice, others. Dayum! I tried to get her to come up to the spot, which she said she wanted to do, but needed to get back on the bus to go home. I offered to pay for taxi, still no dice, but, she promised me next time. I decided fuck that. I wasn’t even wasting my time and efforts (speaking Spanish) for something I didn’t really want anyway. I’ve attached the pic that was with her profile.

Later that night, I met up with one of my buds at Salto del Angel (Salto’s) to check out the scene and have some drinks. We got there early enough to snag a table, got a couple of bottles and watched the show. Dude, I shit you not, the most beautiful Colombiana I had ever seen (since the last most beautiful Colombiana I had ever seen) sat at the table right next to us. She appeared to be with her family and may have been with her husband among them, so, I didn’t give much more thought to her, other than how gorgeous she was. We spent the next hour or so swigging down Cuban rum and talking about bitches. When I went to the bathroom, I saw these younger (early 20somethings) taking pics of each other and offered to take pics of them all—they agreed, and guess what. I was in! After I came back, they were still there taking pics and invited me over to their section to dance and drink (their section was like right behind where I was sitting, so no issues there). I agreed and then went to update my bud. Do you know this fucker was dancing with aforementioned most beautiful Colombiana I had ever seen? ! He looked over at me with this shit eating grin, so I walked over to my new friends and hugged up three of the girls at once and got his attention and threw my own shit eating grin his way. After about an hour, my bud and I regrouped at the table and decided to call another bud to join us since he was leaving the next day with his girl for Cartagena. By the time he got there, I was so fucked up on Cuban rum, local rum, and that fucking Antioquia Aguardiente, that I could barely hold my head up. All I can remember was him saying "dude, if you don’t sit up they’re gonna kick us out. " Then I said "I think I’m gonna puke" and he said "nah, you’ll be fine". I was right, he was wrong. Luckily, I confined my hurling to the table and none spilled on the floor. We figured that was probably a good indicator that it was time to go. Fucking aguardiente! That was no lie, my first time ever hurling from alcohol. So, for Friday, I came up dry in mongering department, no worries. There’s always tomorrow.

By Saturday, I had seriously started considering taking a quick trip up to Medellin. I jumped onto ISG and started asking around. No offense, but fuckers on that board are really stingy with their little slice of paradise. I did not get very much info at all. Really, all I was looking for was someone who lived in the area to tell me it was relatively safe and show me around a little (where to go, where not to go. Even if just on a map). No dice. Until Frank Casio popped up and offered to be my wingman and provide a place to stay. Once I checked that Avianca had last minute promotional fares of $195 roundtrip, I was sold. I booked for Wednesday through Friday and started counting down.

By this time, I was a little fed up with the Colombiancupid scene as well as the casas/clubs in the area, so, I decided to call over an old reliable. Yulhiet. I’m glad I did as it ended up being one of my best nights in Bogota. When she arrived, she was looking absolutely gorgeous and had a great, big smile on her face. She had this look like she had really been looking forward to seeing me again. This was a lot different than when she visited me the first time. We started out with a bottle of red wine and some music and talked about what we had done the last few days (she left out her life as a dick waxer which was fine with me). She told me that she wasn’t going to work after she left me for the night, so, she could stay for a long time. That was good news to me, so, I asked her if she might like to get something to eat. She said yes, but she and I both agreed that we didn’t feel like going anywhere (me because I would rather see her naked than in a restaurant) and decided to order in from Mister Ribs (great place if I didn’t mention it before) after Round 1. She proceeded to give me a massage to repay the one I gave her last time. From there, things got really heated as her tongue explored EVERYWHERE on my body. I reciprocated with DATY and worshipping her ass and feet. She went crazy and I could have been a poster boy for Viagra with the wood I was sporting. I oiled up and played with her tits for awhile, then just eased into the happy hole. Man, the wine, the music, the oil and the candles all put the two of us in a rhythm that I had never experienced before. I can now attest that when you find your way to a Colombian woman’s heart, she will show you places you have only dreamed of. We climaxed simultaneously and, although we stopped moving, we stayed interlocked and eye-fucked each other for another good 20 minutes. Then, we gave each other an entirely different look—one of hunger and at the same time brought up the food again. Ordered, it was delivered and we sat and watched TV as we ate for another 2 hours or so until we fucked again for about an hour. At that point, I was drained and could have fucked the poor girl for the rest of the night, but decided to be nice. As she got dressed and started to leave. Obviously not expecting money, I gave her 100k and told her it was because I wanted her to buy something to wear for the next time she sees me. In reality, I don’t care what she does with it, but for me, if ever a chica anywhere deserved it for her performance, it was her for that night. An exclamation point to another great week!

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Week 3: Didn’t do anything but sleep on Sunday. You gotta have one of those days every now and then on these trips!

Monday I had set up to see Heidi again. I for one wasn’t satisfied with my performance and couldn’t leave her with the wrong impression. She was still on that bullshit about bringing Alejandra along, but this time, my homie had my back and handled her ass in the other room. To put it bluntly, I really tore into this girl. To her credit, she took it like a true pro. I enjoyed seeing her look back at me occasionally with a puzzled look and smile, as if to say "where have you been hiding that dick". My bud fucked me up and was done with Alejandra in like 20 minutes. He kept her entertained for another 30 minutes, but I was still going strong when I heard them in the hallway. In all, I fucked Heidi for 1 ½ hours straight that night. She really earned her cash and performed brilliantly. This girl, was ridiculously beautiful AND had an impeccable body WITH huge tits. And, the kicker. Only 19 years old! When she told me her age, I nearly creamed in my pants right then. Overall, a good time, but, I probably won’t repeat because of the drama with having the other girl around.

Tuesday night I called over Arianna again. She was perfect. I’m not even gonna go into how totally fucking hot and awesomely sensual she was, just go to Bogota or Panama City and find her and see for yourself. Thank me later.

Wednesday. I’m off to Medellin! Check my post (coming soon) on the Medellin board for my 10-casas in 1 day exploits with the most totally cool wingman you could have in Medellin. Frank Casio. A US expat who fell in love with this little slice of paradise.

Yippie Kiyay,

I love Colombia!

Rodeo

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Hello all,

I'm flying to Bogota tomorrow, I've browsed through some pages of this thread and I still have 2 questions:

1) Apparently Santa Fe is the area to visit to have fun. How is the security there ? It kind of concerns me, especially since I will be alone ... Of course I plan to go with nothing but the necessary cash and my clothes on. Is it safe during the day ? At night ? Is it ok to hail taxis, or is it better to have locals call them in advance ? etc ...

2) I plan to stay in Central Bogota/ La Candelaria, cos it's the touristic area and I'm a tourist. Could anyone recommend a good girl-friendly hotel there ? My budget is around 50/60 $ a night, and I'd wish to have nice clean rooms, with big bed, and i don't want the guy at the reception to be embarassing if I bring a girl (small extra fee is still ok though, I guess)

Thanx in advance, all tips appreciated,

Holden

Rodeo 9112 maps are pretty useful but you need some information behind it ie first hand.

I went down to the strip on calle 67 with a line of puta houses just down from the love motels.Caracas and 67, and tried the first one walking down. There were four uglies to my amusement "other girls are busy senor? No gracias" and I tried the next one. Same story and the next and the next until I got to Julianas 2 which had 5 colombians in the waiting room ready for their Thursday night piece of action. Not going to wait an hour and see another selection of uglies assuming the bonitas are busy again? So had a walk around the block and tried another on the corner 2nd floor before the line of casas. Same story, more uglies. Now it could be true that was a busy night and all the bonitas were busy but the ratio of uglies just seemed to give me the impression that the standard isn't that good in that area unless of course you like uglies or have a paper bag handy. The only exception is Tatiana in Julianas 1 but I think she only works days and probbably goes off to the other clubs in the north at night. Ironicaly I had turned down a real cutie in El castillo when I popped in for half an hour around 7pm as she quoted me 90, 000 whcih seemed to be a gringo price. Also being my first time there didn't really connect with the place, more of a reconassiance mission I suppose. Think I'll try other clubs in the area probably La Piscina or Atunes. So far my impression is that while Santa Fe can be dodgy later on if you keep your wits about you should be okay and the talent can be as good as anywhere else. That said if you want more than 20 minutes then itll cost you around 180, 000 for an hour which is near to what you pay in the northern clubs. Yet to try some of the northern clubs mainly due to lack of wingman and excuse to stay out late at weekend without the wife hanging around.

If anybody is here for a while and wants to hang out at the weekend then send me a message as long as I can make a story stick to cover any suspicions about mongering.

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Great reports rivaling the great Tung.

Your reports are the antithesis of Tung's reports; higher priced chicas with great looks.

Keep up the report and photos. It sure is nice when a monger has the cash to allocate towards mongering--sure makes it easier.

Hey does anybody know if this is still going and at what time does it open. Have passed by and entered a club around their with plenty neon and a dance floor on the right but doesnt seem to be the famous 49?

Recently, I've spent more time in Bogota and I've had a chance to sample a lot of the storefronts in the "Mezzanine de Masajes" at carrera 15/calle 104. I've had some great experiences and would say this is an excellent combination of variety, and value for money. The last couple of times I've been there, I've noticed that a restaurant and a tattoo parlor have opened up on the mezzanine so, depending on one's taste, one could hang out there all day. (What must the owner of the restaurant have been thinking opening up a food joint surrounded by pussy? )

Working from streetside to the backside of the mezzanine, here are some samples of what you can find.

#6. Affiliated with some higher-priced joint through a web site, so they will quote you a higher price, 80K/session. Never tried.

#8. Had some great sessions with Sofia, strawberry blonde from Armenia with huge natural jugs and pencil eraser nipples, just begging to be sucked. God rarely gives a woman big natural tits and nothing else, so Sofia carries some extra weight, but still definitely appealing. YMMV, but I've had great GFE with Sofia, including DFK, DATY, Russian, plus the regular CBJ and FS. Sessions here are 60k. I will post a couple of edited pictures.

#9. At the end of the back corridor with the big hand and pointed finger painted on the window. Excellent sessions with Lina, brunette with huge eyes from Villavicencio. Also great GFE. Lina will get VERY wet, and likes getting finger-fucked (but again, YMMV). DFK from the moment I enter the cubicle, DATY available, Russian. Also 60K/session. In #9, you literally will be fucking in the storefront window!

#10. Looks like it's now closed, so Bridgith has disappeared again.

#13. Usually has the largest number of chicas. Initially, my favorite was Ericka, black-haired busty chica from Cali. Great teasing, rubbing her huge natural tits all over my body, DFK, DATY available, etc. Unfortunately, she's not often around. My "consolation prize" has been Marianna, a young spinner with a nice soft ass. Marianna is a real pro, sometimes a bit fake with her moans and will bring out the KY jelly, but can warm up for a good experience. DFK, DATY, DT during CBJ, 69, all available. Ericka asked for 60k. Marianna was surprised when I offered her that, saying the house price was 70K, but then relented and said she'd give me the "amigo de la casa" price of 60K.

If you run into these girls, treat them right, and they'll treat you right. Enjoy.

BTW, Marianna may be the only one who speaks some English, since she's starting to take lessons. Also, if you're in town on business, might be worth booking at the Dann Carlton on the corner, and seeing if the hotel is GF and if the girls would be willing to do take-out.

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Here are two pics that don't do her justice, but which show off two of her nicest features.

Thanks for the great reports, Rodeo! Cute chicas, also.

[QUOTE=Hlover]Mongers,

Please provide feedback if it is safe to use credit cards in massage establishments such as: one relax Abejitas, Tantra Spa and bars such as: La Piscana, El Castillo, Bar Zhivago, Casanova, etc.[/QUOTE]I used credit card in massage establshments such as: Abejitas but they included overprice 7%, card and 16% VAT (IVA in Colombia). In Bar Zhivago and casanova doesnt paid overprice.

I never used in piscina or castillo.

Well, Holdenn, maybe my response is a little late for you. I stayed at the Virrey in Bogota. Good location in the Candelaria, clean, even with an in-room caja de seguridad and reasonable. It is a "regular" hotel, there was even a nun staying when I was there. No way to avoid "the walk of shame" and not the sort of hotel where everyone is doing it. I never had a girl to my room bud did inquire of the bellhop and was told there is no extra charge for 3 or 4 hours. He offered to bring me a girl but I declined. [url]http://www.hotelelvirrey.com/[/url]

I was only in Bogota long enough to see a bullfight, and spend some time in the area near La Piscina (is it still called Sta. Fe? ) It is a "happening" neighborhood and I got there easy via the Transmilenio that has a stop just in front of La Piscina, I think maybe it was the Calle 22 stop on Caracas. I recommend La Piscina and it is the most famous prostibulo in Bogota. It is pricey compared to the dozens of hotels in the area with girls outside *and inside) but it is a unique experience and cheap by US standards. I cannot recall what I paid for short time upstairs but it was "reasonable", many of the girls are hot and there are strippers on the stage. There was a second location nearby, also called La Piscina, that I didn't try it. I'm sure there are better, more thorough La Piscina posts on this board and lots also via a google search. There is even a Facebook group of La Piscina patrons. Have fun.

Okay, since I paid my due with a good, detailed report, can anyone tell me if the Andino Royal hotel in Zona Rosa is girl friendly, even if they require a fee.

Thanks,

Rodeo

I"m going to be in Bogota Wed July 30 to August 2nd.

Anyone around this time? PM me.

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Gentlemen,

I arrived in Bogota Wednesday night.

I just wanted to know if anyone was interested in visiting some of the spots in Zona Rosa with me?

I am staying at the Windsor House Hotel.

Looking to go out on Thursday and Friday.

Let me know if anyone is interested.

Send me a PM or a post here.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Lui123]Hi TravelWind, the hotel Victoria (Carrera 13 # 85-80), is in the area next to the places that I suggest, but I don´t have information for that hotel. I can´t help you with your questions. If I have time you can call me and I can help you when you arrive to Bogotá. Anyway the places that I suggest are next to your hotel.

Best Regards[/QUOTE]Lui,

How can I contact you?

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Okay, since I paid my due with a good, detailed report, can anyone tell me if the Andino Royal hotel in Zona Rosa is girl friendly, even if they require a fee.

Thanks,

Rodeo[/QUOTE]Hi Rodeo,

Any Class Hotel you paid a fee. When you came with the girls at the hotel. In the desk ask for ID girl. If the girl does nt have the Id, the hotel not permit the entrance. In especial in night hours.

The hotel made that, because is more safe.

In evening hours is posible you receive the girl in the lobby, take a drink and then go to the room. But somethings some persons inform to.

Following my post on Tuesday I ventured off to Santa Fe Wednesday around 6.30pm to check out La Piscina del Dia (same carrera as La Piscina but more to the south across the next calle)

The place was pretty dead with not much of an atmosphere with pounding techno music. There was one chica that caught my eye but unfortunately she didnt catch mine. Overall wasnt that impressed but as it was nearly seven perhaps the place was sinding down with the chicas off to La Piscina de la Noche. In fact after a brief walk round some of the casa on carrera 16 and with none of the women being up to scracth entered into La Piscina.

First impression that it was quite busy for 7pm and found myself a table near the swimming pool are but towards the back wall to catch the vibe. Got quoted ridiculous prices for a bottle of Coroan 25,000COP so settled on the Club Colombia for 8,000COP.

Saw a few cuties, a few hardened pros tambien, didnt quite catch a cutie I was fishing for morena, tall, thin and really pretty. But a morena entered and kept giving me the eye so I asked her to sit down. Name Dani or Diana doesnt really matter does it 23 years old from Cali. Nice body, shape where it counts and none where it doesnt. Anyway was chatting with her for a while would say she was a 7 for face and maybe 8 or 9 for body but with a nice chatty, toucy feely personality which for me can compensate for lower marks than say other chicas who are a 9 in looks but a 4 in other areas.

Shared a Corona (I know funny how the guard goes down - probably more advisable to share a bottle of rum or whisky between other friends and chicas but no big deal) Anway discussed the deal and was hit with 90,000 plus the room 13,000. Tried to haggle her down to 70,000COP but she told me that it was fijo fixed and couldnt change the price. Dont know if this is the case or I had a spread em and bed em look on my face which meant she didnt have to budge on the price. Maybe others can advise on the price thing, althought probably the early evening rate goes down near closing time??

Anyway went upstairs to do the deed, rooms are ok nothing special cold water as the norm in Colombia, the deed itself was technically not the best as there are some chicas who do a great GFE and then its hard to compare others after this. But I have to say she had great smooth silky skin, nice tender hard body which hasnt always been an attraction for me as some of the other posters admit but it was pretty nice and refreshing, and nice and big senos maybe 36b/c. Think Ill look for her friend next time though. Overall pretty impressed with La Piscina and the chicas there, maybe need a GFE experience to really rave about it but those are always not easy to come by. Would be interesting to know what other peoples impressions have been.

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First time reporter here and I just wanted to give others a heads up. I know I probably shouldn't have but I just loved the pics of Amanda from e-extasis so I decided to lay out the $.

[url]http://www.e-extasis.com./amanda.htm[/url]

She was totally not the same chica. Much older, heavier, etc. Gave a good BBJ and had some goods, but maybe a 5. So lesson learned. Maybe others have had similar sorts of bait and switches with this provider. I've read good things about chuscas in this forum so maybe I'll try them.

Windsor charged a COP70. 000 room fee for a chica coming in alone at night. Not sure what they'd permit if they come in with you or if during the day.

[QUOTE=Juan Carter]Well, Holdenn, maybe my response is a little late for you. I stayed at the Virrey in Bogota. Good location in the Candelaria, clean, even with an in-room caja de seguridad and reasonable. [/QUOTE]Thanks for your answer Juan. Finally I'm staying at Hotel Ambala, on Carrera 5, It's ok, very clean, 60.000 P, free pickup at the aiport at midnight, the rooms are a bit tiny but overall it's fine. Wouldn't feel confortable taking a girl though.

Went to La Piscina this afternoon. It's my first time in Colombia, and I don't feel confortable going to Santa Fe at night on my own. I liked the place, but had an awful experience with the girl I choosed. Was my fault though, took the first girl that came sitting next to me, and I should have waited to meet other girls before choosing. Her name was Valentina. She had the cutest face, that's what doomed me. She seemed to have great boobs too, I asked her if they were natural and she said yes. Somewhat the conversation was kinda cold, I didn't feel her, so I should have trusted my instincts and leave it at that, but instead I decided to go the room for 1 hour. Price: 140.000 P for the girl and 40.000 P for the room. Somehow I have the feeling this was a gringo price but anyway, I assumed the usual 60k-80k + 10 k price mentionned in the Bogota List was only for a 25 mn session, so I went for it.

Inside the room, that was one true hour of poor and depressing sex. Her boobs were fake, even though she amazingly carried on denying the evidence. No kiss on the mouth. Blow job with condom for like 30 seconds. Various positions with lots of lubricant. By the end I was totally turned off, so finish with a handjob with condom on (!!!).

Well, I'm desappointed by this first Piscina experience, but I think I'm mainly to blame due to lack of experience. My previous experiences were Germany FKK and Rio de Janeiro Termas where things ran more smoothly and I never encoutered such poor services.

Tomorrow I'll try El Castillo and won't make the same mistakes: not choose a girl if she's cold (even if she's a 8) and talk about the services before (FK, BBBJ and so on).

[QUOTE=Later Man]First time reporter here and I just wanted to give others a heads up. I know I probably shouldn't have but I just loved the pics of Amanda from e-extasis so I decided to lay out the $.

[url]http://www.e-extasis.com./amanda.htm[/url]

She was totally not the same chica. Much older, heavier, etc. Gave a good BBJ and had some goods, but maybe a 5. So lesson learned. Maybe others have had similar sorts of bait and switches with this provider. I've read good things about chuscas in this forum so maybe I'll try them.

Windsor charged a COP70. 000 room fee for a chica coming in alone at night. Not sure what they'd permit if they come in with you or if during the day.[/QUOTE]Hey Later Man,

Are you at the Windsor now?

I am also.

Interested in going out tonight?

Let me know how I can get in contact with you.

I'm loosing count of "La Piscina"s.

Do we now have 2 in St Fe and another in the north?

[QUOTE=Later Man]First time reporter here and I just wanted to give others a heads up. I know I probably shouldn't have but I just loved the pics of Amanda from e-extasis so I decided to lay out the $.

[url]http://www.e-extasis.com./amanda.htm[/url][/QUOTE]400k? You gotta be fucking joking man! And after that you accepted a substitute?

And fool and his money, etc.

Hey Later Man,

I am staying at the Windsor House also.

Interested in meeting?

TW

[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen]I'm loosing count of "La Piscina"s.
Do we now have 2 in St Fe and another in the north?[/QUOTE]Don't know about the north, but there are two in St Fe:

- "La Piscina" is located on the Carrera 14, just at the exit "Calle 22" of the Transmillenio. I think it opens around 2 pm, but apparently there is not much going on during the day. I was there at 3 pm, and there were maybe 5 girls, and I might have been the only client. It closes at 6 am, and from what I gathered chatting with a girl, it gets way much crowded at night.

- "La Piscina del Dia" is located nearby, on the Carrera 15, between calle 22 and 23. There is way much more action during the day. I was there at 3 pm, there were maybe 10 girls, but later on more girs arrived and when I left there were maybe 25 of them. Good ratio of hotties. Mostly colombian clients, sitting there, drinking beers alone or with buddies, watching porn on the big screen or the girls dancing, sometimes on stage. Good atmosphere, very laidback. It closes at 8 pm. Had an excellent session with a young cutie, 100k for 1 hour. And the beverages are not overpriced. And the place doesn't have that "let's rip off the gringo" vibe that I felt at the first "Piscina". I liked it, will go again.

Tw, I'm back stateside now, sorry to miss connecting up this week. I'll likely be back in a few months, though I think I'll opt to stay somewhere within walking distance to Calle's 80-88. You?

And I deserve the criticism from Ad2women.- foolish indeed and a lesson for others. I just couldn't help myself.

One tidbit I got from a Stefani at Abejitas yesterday: she said that Abeilles Spa on Calle 98 #15-24 offers same service & prices but has jacuzzis, showers, and younger chicas on site. She works there on the side. Can anyone confirm?

[QUOTE=TravelWind]Lui,

How can I contact you?[/QUOTE]Hi TravelWind,

I call to the hotel but for let a message to you i need your number room.

Anyway I hope that you find very nice "chicas" in your shopping trip.

Enjoy.

[QUOTE=Lui123]Hi TravelWind,

I call to the hotel but for let a message to you i need your number room.

Anyway I hope that you find very nice "chicas" in your shopping trip.

Enjoy.[/QUOTE]Hey everyone,

Can you please recommend a hotel in Northern or Central Bogota ( Chapinero Area ), where it is safe to walk at night, and affordable.

BO

I arrived in Bogota by plane, easy transit to hotel Andino Royal on the edge of the Zona T. Very discreet, but helpful. When a 24 yo non-pro came to meet me at the hotel, I forgot to give her my full name or room number, but I am a distinctive gringo and had made friends at the desk and they figured out who she wanted and called me.

Bogota is cold. North Bogota is very clean, organized, modern, with good security. It seemed safe to walk around at night in Zona T or the estrato 6 areas north, but it is only a few blocks west to a sketchier area at Carrerra 15 (aveninda Caracas).

My goal was non-pros, starting with cybercupido contacts. I had many more possibilities than I needed. I didn't have any luck chatting up girls in the Andino Mall or the streets, but I did better with talking to girls in the lower class shops. It could also be that I got better as I got used to Colombia and talking in Spanish all the time.

I tried two pros. A black calena at Penthouse Club in Chapinera (walking distance, see the List). Girls ok, but not gorgeous. 100k for hour. Ok room. 7k for chica drinks. An uninteresting experience.

Then after strking out with non-pro #2 (see below), at 2am I walked down Calle 85 away from the mountains, turned right on Cr 14, a short street that deadends in one block at CL 86 or 86a? If you turn left you come to 3 fancy clubs (casanova, etc.) but at the intersection of CL 86 and cr 14, directly ahead, is a black door with steps going up and touts. No name, no number, but easy to find. Small bar, 10 girls, good music not too loud, good lighting. Girls were much prettier than in chapinera. Chica drinks 27k! I hooked up with the tall, slim, 30 yo bartender in jeans rather than one of the hotter looking 22 yo chicas. All the rooms were occupied, so went to a fancier club to use their room (Lalos Club, Cr 15 and 88-33) by taxi. A great hour. Really gfe. Got her number, but no time to see her yet. 93k to the bar, plus whatever you negotate with the girl. Same 93k bar fine to exit with her, although I think the chica drinks are deducted from the 93k in that case.

Non-pro Girl #1. 24 yo. Costena. Beautiful. Living with her sister in Bogota as the babysitter for her sister's 4 children.brother in law works in dubai. not a family with money worries. 2 dates, lots of fun. Declined invitation to my room. We went to a fun famoous night spot called Andre's Carne de Res in Chia (about 40 minutes outside of the city). Think funky indoor-outdoor club with food, booze, dancing, and 3000 people. Mostly white 30-something well-off colombian groups celebrating birthdays, etc. No blacks, few calena or costena type people. They appear to party hard in Colombia on Fri and Sat night, and also Thu (Fri seems to be a casual limited work day at many businesses). Because Girl 1 was only 24 we didn't have much to talk about after a while. I did manage to dance her off her feet, but my shoes were much more comfortable than her high heels.

Non-pro Girl #2. 30 yo. Costena. Long dark hair, very sexy and pretty. A scientific professional. Well off. Lives further north in a house that her parents bought for her and her brother for working in Bogota. We went dancing in a club in Zona T. Great time. And I learned what they do about purses and valuables in a country where no one trusts anyone else very much. You get a big bag from the waitress, put your stuff in it, they padlock it and give you the key. When you pay your bill, you get it back. I noticed that my date counted the money in her wallet after she took it out of the bag. For our second date she was dress very sexy and was the best looking dancer in the club. Interesting, lively, hard-partying girl. We drank a bottle of Aguardiente, something I do not recommend. Great kisses, but no sex in 2 dates. Will follow up with her.

I got thumbs up from Colombian guys while dancing with both dates.

Non-pro Girl #3. 36 yo (I am quite old by the way). Short, overweight, smart, interesting, fun to be with. After meeting for a coffee, she invited me several other activities. I accepted a visit to her apartment for lunch (soup, rice, avocado, desert). She lives in a middle class neighborhood out toward the airport. Whole family was in and out all the time, include mom, pop, 2 brothers, 3 children, 1 nephew, etc. Walked to the mall with the kids and beat the youngest girl in air hockey but lost to her mom. Eacaped without sex being an issue and without getting engaged.

I told them that I was in Colombia on business, which made it possible to juggle schedules. I should have told them I was in Bogota for 2 weeks+ instead of 5 days and I made the misake of telling Girl 2 that I was planning to go out for karaoke with girl 3. Using Cypbercupido made it obvious that I probably had other dates.

On the way to the airport there was a marathon and many city streets were closed. So I got an involuntary tour of many barrios. I arrived at the airport with 15 minutes to spare and still made my plane.

I like Bogota and plan to go back, but I like the people in Medellin better (next report).

Zing

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Anyone in Bogota August 4th through 15th that can be my wingman to introduce me to mongering in Santa Fe? I have been to Bogota twice already and have never visited that area. Would definitely like to try this time. If you can PM me, please do so and I'll shoot you my Comcel phone number.

Rodeo

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]introduce me to mongering in Santa Fe.

Rodeo[/QUOTE]Hi Rodeo

You can go alone to Santfe zone until the 7 or 8 pm. After that hour the zone can be more dangerous, although the police make witnesses in the zone.

For example you can to take a taxi at 4 pm. And you leave in the corner of the Calle 23 Carrera 16A, and walk a few steps to Atunes Club. You find 15 or more chicas, and so many will arrive at this time. The price of the can beer is 2. 5k and the price for a 15 minutes is 40km 50k or 60k, it depends of the chica and your power of to negotiate a less price.

And you can leave the zone before the 7 pm.

If you need go more later, is better to go to Piscina Carrera 15 Calle 23.

The idea is not walk alone the zone, for to go to another places, don't leave alone your drink in the table, and to be alert to any person near to you.

Is very util the map that the friend Tungurahua post at 7 of July.

Best lucky.

Dont go to this place uless you like ugly girls, went there last week after seeing rodeo9112's list and prices for BBBJ. Was not impressed at all with any of the girls and the ones I asked did not give BBBJ (not that I would have let them anywhere near me anyway)

Hello everyone!

Is anyone able to direct me to a list of chica friendly hotels in Bogota, if there is such a list. Looking for places that don't up charge and no other hassles, and if possible a nice place to stay.

Thank you in advance for your assistance!

Rodeo112,

I cant do PM just yet but will sort it out this week maybe tomorrow.

If you are looking at the posts while in Bogota keep looking Ill send you a post and maybe we can meet up say next week Tuesday or Thursday unless you have already been there and done that, of course.

I've never been to Colombia but I have been to Quito and San Jose.

Do you guys think it is safe for me to go to Bogota alone on my first trip?

Hey Lui,

Sorry I missed you.

Can I contact you again when I come back?

[QUOTE=Lui123]Hi TravelWind,

I call to the hotel but for let a message to you i need your number room.

Anyway I hope that you find very nice "chicas" in your shopping trip.

Enjoy.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Love Handler]Rodeo112,

I cant do PM just yet but will sort it out this week maybe tomorrow.

If you are looking at the posts while in Bogota keep looking Ill send you a post and maybe we can meet up say next week Tuesday or Thursday unless you have already been there and done that, of course.[/QUOTE]I'll be watching! Like I said, I'm good in Zona Rosa/Parque 93, just need some help in Santa Fe!

[QUOTE=Love Handler]Dont go to this place uless you like ugly girls, went there last week after seeing rodeo9112's list and prices for BBBJ. Was not impressed at all with any of the girls and the ones I asked did not give BBBJ (not that I would have let them anywhere near me anyway)[/QUOTE]Yo, I NEVER went anywhere in Chapinero...my spots were all in Zona Rosa and Parque 93 with the exception of La Mancion and Los Angeles, but I don't thing either were in Chapinero. Maybe you got your info from somewhere else.

Rodeo

[QUOTE=Monger#77]I've never been to Colombia but I have been to Quito and San Jose.

Do you guys think it is safe for me to go to Bogota alone on my first trip?[/QUOTE]If you stick to the right areas you'll be fine.

To all whose who are unsure about going alone to Santa Fe I would advise caution like anywhere but if you have some confidence about yourself and are streetwise and not a nervous person you should be okay. I have been to a few areas now where I was not sure about going before but after some advice on the forum I took the plunge. Basically visiting a red light zone anywhere is not the safest option in the world but if you dont walk about too much and attract too much attention then shouldnt be a problem. I would advise taking a cab there maybe do a tour around in the cab to get a feel for where the places are and if you want to talk to some of the street girls or the girls at the "hotels" motion them over to your cab and talk to them before getting out and entering. Im pretty sure the cabbie shouldnt have a problem with this and if in doubt offer a tip for the trouble maybe 2,000-5,000COP which lets face it is nothing if you are travelling on foreign money. Once you have done the tour get out and maybe visit La Piscina or El Castillo o La Troya or whatever and if you dont like the place then move to the next place but with purpose not wandering alone the street aimlessly. Try not too drink too much in whatever bar so you dont lose the control of the situation either with the chica or become oblivious of your surroundings and safety. Drinking a lot is ok if you are with friends especially colombians and im sure its okay for some folks maybe ex marines but for most people I would say better to stay semi sober. Im still new to the area and have only visited a few places fleetingly but so far have had no problems, probably because i follow the above rules. You all have to make up your own mind, being robbed is a game of chance but you can either increase or decrease the odds. Anyway thats my advice hope its of some use and dont be put off going down there alone. Better still hook up with someone else.

I can also reccomend Marianna.

She gets better and friendlier from meeting to meeting it's ashame I have to leave Bogota soon.

[QUOTE=Novio]#13. Usually has the largest number of chicas. Initially, my favorite was Ericka, black-haired busty chica from Cali. Great teasing, rubbing her huge natural tits all over my body, DFK, DATY available, etc. Unfortunately, she's not often around. My "consolation prize" has been Marianna, a young spinner with a nice soft ass. Marianna is a real pro, sometimes a bit fake with her moans and will bring out the KY jelly, but can warm up for a good experience. DFK, DATY, DT during CBJ, 69, all available. Ericka asked for 60k. Marianna was surprised when I offered her that, saying the house price was 70K, but then relented and said she'd give me the "amigo de la casa" price of 60K.

If you run into these girls, treat them right, and they'll treat you right. Enjoy.

BTW, Marianna may be the only one who speaks some English, since she's starting to take lessons. Also, if you're in town on business, might be worth booking at the Dann Carlton on the corner, and seeing if the hotel is GF and if the girls would be willing to do take-out.[/QUOTE]

I will be in Bogota next week for the first time. I have been to medellin many times, and I would like any info on any places like loutron. I am also looking to see if anybody has any info on pre-pagos. I don't mind paying more for a higher quality girl.

[QUOTE=Pepe Tolete]I will be in Bogota next week for the first time. I have been to medellin many times, and I would like any info on any places like loutron. I am also looking to see if anybody has any info on pre-pagos. I don't mind paying more for a higher quality girl.[/QUOTE]Hello,

Sorry, but in Bogota you can nt look places like loutron. This place is the best in Colombia.

I think is posible you go to Mansion (116 street) in the night, or Flickr all day. But NEVER the same quality.

See the others report about bogota.

[QUOTE=Adictomujeres]Hello,

Sorry, but in Bogota you can nt look places like loutron. This place is the best in Colombia.

I think is posible you go to Mansion (116 street) in the night, or Flickr all day. But NEVER the same quality.

See the others report about bogota.[/QUOTE]Please provide more details about Mansion and Flickr.

Thank you.

Ny first 5 days in Colombia are reported [url=http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=771033&postcount=1541]here.[/url]

My overall summary of visiting 4 cities in 3.5 weeks is reported [url=http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=776766&postcount=1321]here.[/url]

General thoughts on Bogota vs Medellin. Much bigger and harder to get around. People are a little harder to get to know, but once you break the ice I found everyone friendly and charming. The altitude was a problem the first couple of days only. Medellin is much more attractive. I visited central Medellin almost every day, because I liked the crowds and the funky malls and the people were easier to talk to than in Poblado (and I sampled a couple of street girls and visited the strip clubs). But in Bogota, I did not get to Santa Fe red light district at all.

My last 48 hours in Bogota included hardly any sleep, after which I traveled all day back to the United States.

SECOND TO LAST DAY

Arrived back in Bogota from Medellin about noon. Had lunch with a cypercupido woman. Not my type. Lots of dark makeup around her eyes and trashy clothes. She did not fit in with the Zona T trendiness. But we had lunch and a conversation and then I let her go. She told me there was a lot of prostitution in Colombia!

I was staying at the Saint Simon Hotel, which is a good location. Not expensive. Small room. However the rooms facing Calle 84 are noisy from 4 nearby discos until 5am, so if you are a light sleeper I would request a room facing CRA 14 or another direction. I went across the street from my hotel to an open-air market where they were selling clothing. I have been chatting up 4 girls who work there for my entire stay in Colombia. One tall young dark girl, Cindy from the coast, appealed to me a lot. She asked me who the woman was that I had walked by with. I said she was a possible amiga, from the internet, but I didn't like her. I now know that I should have asked Cindy for her cel number on the first meeting. Instead I got it on the last night, when it wasn't of much use to me.

I then had the excellent La Femme massage parlor encounter described in my summary report above, after which I went back to my room and wrote up my thoughts on Colombia that are recorded in that report.

My date for the evening, Non-Pro Girl #1 from my first report, showed up, late, at 9pm. She is 24 and beautiful, claims she is fat, but if so it is very slight. I am old, but fit. We went to dinner at a middle eastern restaurant near P93 (Khaaffi? ), which was delicious. And romantic: we sat alone in the lounge by the fireplace surrounded by oriental cushions etc, instead of at a table in the regular dining area. We returned to my hotel about 1130pm and the desk clerk asked for her ID and filled out a guest form; he said they would put a charge on my bill. We made out in my room, but she fell asleep partway through watching Hidalgo and went home at 1am. No sex. Since she wasn't in my room very long, the desk clerk told me there wouldn't be a charge.

I was in Bogota two times before and both times I went out with Girl 1 and also Girl 2, a 30 year old engineer. Neither had consented to sex after just 2 dates. Girl 2 would have made a good girlfriend, as we had a lot in common and lots to talk about. However, I was just in Colombia to see how I felt about dating latin girls and then decide later what I wanted to do about it. Unless I shed my wife, a real GF would be quite inconvenient. So I decided to pursue Girl 1, the less appropriate, more dependent, younger girl on my 3rd time in Bogota during the trip.

Since I was pretty horny after making out, I went back to the "private club" on 86a at the end of CRA 14 (big blue door, may be locked but there is a bell and usually a tout, no sign or number), reported in my first report. Looking for my GFE encounter there, Juliana. But she wasn't in, so I talked to Vanessa again, a cute girl from Armenia that I talked to the first time and the second time I returned looking for Juliana. There was a drunk guy at the bar who insisted on giving us drinks of Aguardiente, even though I had sworn off the stuff after getting plastered one night. Finally he was right in our faces, saying something crude about Vanessa. The other girls were trying to dance with him, to get him away from us, but he wouldn't move. Finally he started talking about putas in a very derisive way. So I replid, "no es putas, es mujeres" and he said "desculpe" and walked away. My only confrontation in Colombia.

I took Vanessa into one of their rooms, with sofas and a mattress on the floor. Although she was a bit plastered by this time, the sex was very good, with lots of french kissing and BBBJ and daty, after which she just pulled me into her bareback. Perhaps it was my charm, or my sticking up for her at the bar, or her standard procedure. Later I cleaned off thoroughly with Betadine.

I then got a few hours sleep, my last for 2 days.

MY LAST DAY

In the morning I went over to Juan Valdez cafe for a capuccino but didn't find anyone to talk with. I did a little final shopping and called Natalia, the massage girl from the day before and made an appointment to take her to lunch at 1pm. When I got there, she apologized that she had things she had to go do, but she would not feel bad if I had sex with another girl. Would I like her to arrange a conversation with them all. I thought that might be fun, so I sat in their living room while she put on her heavy coat and went out. I then told some of my stories to the girls. They did not seem to have any other customers.

Finally they took me back into a "treatment" room and let me interview each girl individually. I selected Brijite, who was the second girl on the street that intiailly gave me the card for their massage parlour. She was very pretty, blondish, thin. In retrospect, I should have gone with the dark haired, fuller figured woman who sat next to me during the living room chat and did the most talking to me.

Brijite was a good experience, but not gfe. No kissing, no BBBJ. She insisted I take her cell number too.

Since I didn't have lunch with Natalia, I went to the food court at the top of Andino mall. I talked to Jennie and her friend, who sold cheesecake. Jennie had worked in Miami at JC Penny, but was back in Bogota. Tall, dark haired, attractive, just the way I like them. I should have asked for her number, just for practice, but I didn't. Decades of shy behavior are difficult to change in a couple of weeks.

I went over to the market and talked to Cindy and her friends again. I got Cindy's cellphone and followed them across the street to the actual store that they work for, where I watched them finish their day by putting on fresh makeup and getting paid. It looked to me like Cindy got 20k for standing in that market until 8pm, but perhaps there were other payments weekly or monthly. I'm sure that Cindy would have loved to go out with me, but I already had a date.

Another date with Non Pro #1, on time. I took her to Archies Pizza a block from my hotel and ate lightly. Then she gave me 2 CDs she had made, in return for the CDs I had given her. We went back to my room to listen to them. No questions from the desk clerk this time. Her music was good and her DFK was incredible. But when I went to remove her clothes, she said "not until you actually come back to Colombia". But then she took off her coat and proceeded to mount me and dry hump me and feel me up. It was like being in high school again. She left fairly early.

I am now facing my last night in Colombia, alone. I had sex at 2pm in case this happened again, but Girl #1 managed to get me very horny anyway.

So I went back to the private club where I had Vanessa the night before. As soon as I walked in, Juliana, my great GFE from 3 weeks ago, jumps up and runs over for a kiss. I get a long story about how she lost her purse, with her cellphone and her cedula in it, which was why I could never reach her. We talked quite naturally at the bar about my experiences in Colombia and her life for about 40 minutes, then I paid a salida of 90 or 100K and took her back to my hotel.

As we were preparing to leave, another girl comes up to me and says hello, do you remember me from St Maarten? It was Luisa, one of Routard's special amigas. I was surprised she remembered me, but I might have delivered a gift from Routard to her one time. She gave me her cellphone number, even though the head guy kept coming over to the bar and reminding her she was needed. Then she went out on a salida just as we went out of the bar. Small world.

At the hotel, this was now my second girl to my room in one night. The clerk asked for her cedula, but she didn't have it. Instead she offered a police report on stolen purse. The clerk said he wanted to help, but everyone who stays the night has to have documents. Did I really know this woman? The day shift comes on at 530am, if she could leave before then, it would be okay. SO I left a tip for him and the doorman and we went to my room.

I put on some good music and we had great sex for 90 minutes, then she drifted off to sleep. I believe it ws good for both of us. I never fell asleep as I was reviewing my experiences in Colmbia. At 5am we got up and dressed, then headed downstairs. She was ready to go home, but I had to get up again in 90 minutes anyway for my plane, so I said let's take a walk. She agreed eagerly. We wandered through the empty Zona Rosa for 20 minutes. The 4 discos near my hotel were still open and blasting music. We sat on a bench in the park facing Calle 85 and talked until the sky started to brighten. Then we went to the Carulle supermarket and had coffee and talked some more. Since she didn't have a cellphone, she gave me her email address. At 630am I put my "date" into a taxi and walked back to my hotel to finish packing and go to the airport.

I went to Colombia to experience non-pro girls, after many great experiences wth pros. But I was handicaped by my marriage, that didn't yet allow acquiring a true girlfriend, and by my lack of straightforward social aggressiveness. The girls were more aggressive than I was. I did bed one very sexy and passionate woman in Medellin, but then I discovered that I had to fit into her life and schedule. I couldn't stay over at her house because of the teen girls living there. And she had to work a lot. But it did show me that I could woo and seduce attractive women that were much younger. But my final date was with a pro. I remember Ricker saying that it was faster and easier to take a working girl and turn her into a friend, than it was to date a non-pro and turn her into a sex partner.

Zing

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This is my first post in Colombia, apologies in advance if not up to standards here.

Went to Santa Fe last night at 9pm, my first time, spent about 4 hours there. A few observations:

1) I went to Santa Fe alone, but with a trusted taxi driver whom I paid to stay with me while I was there. Over 4 hours, including a generous tip I paid him about 120. 000 COP. Very worthwhile for the sense of security it brought me, it being my first time there. If you are in Bogota alone, like me, I would recommend this route if you want to go.

2) It's hopping a nighttime! I don't know what it would be like during the day but at night it had that seedy, squalid atmosphere that I kind of like, garbage on the streets, suspicious characters idling on the streets, some interacting with police, some casting you askance looks. Stray dogs, streetwalkers, the whole bit.

3) Santa Fe is, compared to any RLD I've ever been, very seedy. If I didn't have someone with me I am sure I would've been pestered a lot on the streets. Even the Colombians are not there alone (a few, but very few). I don't think I'd go again unless I had someone with me for sure. Whereas in the clubs in the Norte (Calle 85 y Cra. 15) it's quite alright to go by yourself.

4) The clubs that seemed to be busy, on a Saturday night, were La Piscina, El Castillo, La Casona and Las Vegas. I went to La Piscina and El Castillo.

5) La Piscina is setup like this. There are two rooms, one with a general bar area and another with an indoor pool. When I walked in there were about half the people in one room and half in the other. About 30 chicas. Only a couple interested me, but since it was the first place we went to and I was more on a recon trip to Santa Fe I didn't do much other than observe how the place worked. The minimum around the pool was 30. 000 COP for a bottle of Corona, plus a service charge. Every now and then (30 minutes, hour) there was a strip show on a bridge over the pool.

6) I thought El Castillo, despite its reputation, had worse looking chicas than La Piscina. The interior is setup as a large room (preceded by a small bar area), in the center of which there is a long catwalk (w/ two stripper poles). There are stairs to a second level which only outlines the room, such that you can see what's going on on the first floor (sorry I don't know how to describe this better.) Again, probably about 30 girls, a few were very young looking. I ran into an American from Miami in the bathroom, he swore it was ultra-safe in Santa Fe and that I didn't need to have my driver with me. Friendly guy. Again, very few foreigners in El Castillo. I didn't like the setup in El Castillo, it took a long time to get a sense of what all the girls looked like, since some were upstairs and it was quite hard to see them from the first floor or from across the room.

I chatted up one of the girls, after she realized I wasn't going to 'hacer amor' with her that night. She told me apparently on a good night they get about 6-7 clients (100. 000 COP for 30 minutes) and normal night is 2-3. Thing is, I didn't actually see a lot of clients 'disappearing' with the chicas. Most of the Colombian customers seemed to chat with the girls a bit, buy them a drink, maybe get their number, and leave.

Around 12:30pm, I left El Castillo in search of Atunes but it was actually closed.

So that was my four hours in Santa Fe. I actually preferred it to the clubs in the North (Juan Pablo and Extasis). Can't explain why.

A few questions for the more senior/experienced members -

1) How does my experience compare to that during the daytime?

2) Where are other places that you go?

3) Do you share my view that it just is a better environment in Santa Fe than Extasis, Juan Pablo's, etc.?

4) In some sense I'd feel more comfortable chatting up the girls and seeing if I couldn't actually call them out some night. Is that better done after an on site session or bringing them back to your digs? As I mentioned, a few of these girls were hot. I could definitely imagine wanting to try them out a few times (and not having to go back to the club to see them).

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Great series of reports Zing. It reminds me my experience one year ago when I discovered Colombia myself for the very first time. I know how you are feeling, an overflow of experiences that need time to be analyzed. I had the same dilemma, which path to follow: keeping my life as it is with my family and escaping from time to time to the artificial pro scene or changing drastically my life, taking back my freedom and diving in the real world of non pro experiences. It took me one year to decide, and I chose the last option. It is a tough decision, as it’s supposed to be a one way road…well I did it smoothly, I separated from my family based on career reason as I took a new job overseas which allows me to keep an open option to return to my previous life.

What scared me so much to do so? Well the very first reason was simply that I believed I couldn’t seduce women anymore after so many years. God what was I wrong! The Colombianas gave me back my confidence and self estime and I am eternally grateful to all the Colombianas for that. I was afraid that my first experience in Colombia that allowed me to date again a normal girl was simply luck, but it was not. It turned out to be far much easier than what I believed at first after my first trip in Colombia. I realized I could do it over and over again as much as I wanted , and I became real good in dating non pros. It is a kind of scheme theorized in “the Game” but that can be simplified in three steps.

The first step is the attraction during the first encounter. I believed at first that it was important to develop a complex strategy, but it is far much easier than anyone can believe. A girl is attracted to a guy or not, it doesn’t matter how she meets her. The only thing I learned to do is to detect whether a girl is attracted to me or not, this is the only skill I have. I am always alert, and as soon as I see a girl watching me, I give her a great smile. At first I made the mistake to try to make eye contact before, but I realized shy girls then usually avoid eye contact while most usually reply by a smile to a great smile. If she doesn’t smile, I leave her alone, she might have her reasons. If not, I approach which girls feel as natural after having smiled to each other. Then the so called opener, the first sentence that scared me so much at first after decades of shyness. I learned that it simply doesn’t matter what is said at that moment. I usually start in n any kind of language, and after switching in a couple of different language, we both have fun about it and start to speak about each other origin. Sometimes I approach by asking if she is the amiga of Carolina or whatever other girl which usually ends up by comparing each other’s network. What I learned is that girls always wait for the very first step but will do all the rest. Unless they already have a novio, girls simply love to meet people and love to talk. At first I was scared about blanks, but it nearly never happened, girls simply love to talk. On the contrary, I usually have to interrupt myself the conversation by faking another appointment. A girl feels frustrated when you interrupt her conversation, that is the best moment to ask for her phone number to continue the conversation. Only one time I have felt some resistance, a girl asking why I wanted her number. I answered simply: “ because I want to call you”, and I received her number. Then I move. The biggest mistake guys usually do is to stay with the girl as long as they can in case it will end up in her bed which usually never happens. The first step shouldn’t be longer than 10 or 20 minutes.

The second step is the comfort phase. Remember, a girl will never call, you have to do it. Don’t worry, she gave her number, so she is expecting you to call within the next couple of days. Just call her and invite her somewhere. If I feel confident enough, I invite her for the evening somewhere, as it might end up in her bed, but I learned to do it much more elegant and invite her to do something during the daytime, having lunch, going to the beach, a park or helping me for shopping or whatever. A girl will feel much more confident to accept to go out with someone she hardly knows during daytime. I learned also that usually when I try to invite a girl for the first time by night, she will try not to come alone and bring some amiga, so daytime is a much better option. This is the phase that you need to build up confidence and learn to know each other. Avoid physical contact, and keep it to the conversation only. The second step lasts usually a couple of hours.

The third step is seduction. After the comfort zone, she feels confident, you can call her back to ask her to go out by night, a bar a disco, a restaurant, whatever and only the two of you. The girl considers this as a date and is now mentally prepared to have sex. It also allows her to prepare the logistics it involves, bringing you to her place or staying the night in your place. A couple of times, I had that the second step in the afternoon ended up the same day in the third step as we simply stayed together. Anyway, during the third step, physical contact starts. Try to touch her briefly, holding her hand, touching her arm during the conversation and check her reaction. If she shows to sign of defending her intimacy, you can move on till you kiss her. Once you have kissed her, it’s your date. Sex is just a matter of time, if it doesn’t come as fast as expected, I sometimes talk about it as mostly it’s a matter of logistics that need to be solved. Remember, most girls have kids waiting at home.

And now the best part of it: it doesn’t work only with Colombianas! This is my latest discovery, I just have had my first date with a girl from Texas. A couple of times when I approached girls that answered me in English, I simply moved away. I then noticed that the girls just stared at me to try to understand what went wrong. I was unfair to them, I dumped them from the very first second I learned they were no Latinas, not even giving them the chance to learn to know each other. I gave it a chance, and in fact it works exactly the same. The only difference is that I was in my comfort zone with Colombianas. Colombianas will never be rude even if they are not interested in a relation.

Colombianas gave me back my confidence with women, and once this confidence is back, you are in a circle of success. In fact I learned that there are far more lonely women than I believed and lonely women are always open to try a relationship. Lonely women are desperate to find men as 90% of men simply dare not to approach women.

Once you are part of the 10%, you discover a world you couldn’t even dream of. I learned new codes, building up friends networks, have a rich social life, using Facebook… Facebook is an amazing tool, the next morning you receive the pictures from your adventures of the previous night at the nightclub, or girls find you back again through Facebook if you have forgotten to ask for her number. Most nightclubs and bars are now on Facebook, which allows to find back easily someone you have met there. After years of double life behind my Routard pseudo on ISG, I had to learn to lose anonymity while hunting. Another main issue I was not prepared to is to stop each times relationships before it becomes too strong and move to the next one. This is simply the most difficult part of dating, as the last thing I'm looking for is again a long term relationship and loosing again my freedom. I said one time on ISG when I was a monger, that I paid not for the sex, but for her to leave the next day. Nothing is more true than that, I still have not learned how to stop a relationship without hurting the girl. This is the most difficult part in dating girls.

The good parts? Meeting real interesting people, the power of giving happiness to women, genuine emotions, passionate sex, incredible wet pussies, amazing quick and multiple female orgasms...

I am not a monger anymore, that’s why I have stopped writing on ISG. I sometimes read the forum, for example to follow the adventures of my friend Zing. After your experience in Colombia, what will be the path you will follow, my friend? I have not mentioned one important thing, there is another issue with the new life I have chosen. When I left my family, I realized how much I loved them, and they realized how much they loved me. Once free at last in my bachelor apartment, ready to fuck as many girls as possible, I cried for the very first time of my adult life.

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Routard,

This is simply one of the beste pieces I've read on the ISG. Thanks, and congrats! I've always thought of mongering as a temporary phase people go through. Not bad or anything, but something that can and must be evolved into something nourishing for your life. This is indeed a life lesson.

[QUOTE=Routard]Great series of reports Zing. It reminds me my experience one year ago when I discovered Colombia myself for the very first time. I know how you are feeling, an overflow of experiences that need time to be analyzed. I had the same dilemma, which path to follow: keeping my life as it is with my family and escaping from time to time to the artificial pro scene or changing drastically my life, taking back my freedom and diving in the real world of non pro experiences. It took me one year to decide, and I chose the last option. It is a tough decision, as it’s supposed to be a one way road…well I did it smoothly, I separated from my family based on career reason as I took a new job overseas which allows me to keep an open option to return to my previous life.

What scared me so much to do so? Well the very first reason was simply that I believed I couldn’t seduce women anymore after so many years. God what was I wrong! The Colombianas gave me back my confidence and self estime and I am eternally grateful to all the Colombianas for that. I was afraid that my first experience in Colombia that allowed me to date again a normal girl was simply luck, but it was not. It turned out to be far much easier than what I believed at first after my first trip in Colombia. I realized I could do it over and over again as much as I wanted , and I became real good in dating non pros. It is a kind of scheme theorized in “the Game” but that can be simplified in three steps.

The first step is the attraction during the first encounter. I believed at first that it was important to develop a complex strategy, but it is far much easier than anyone can believe. A girl is attracted to a guy or not, it doesn’t matter how she meets her. The only thing I learned to do is to detect whether a girl is attracted to me or not, this is the only skill I have. I am always alert, and as soon as I see a girl watching me, I give her a great smile. At first I made the mistake to try to make eye contact before, but I realized shy girls then usually avoid eye contact while most usually reply by a smile to a great smile. If she doesn’t smile, I leave her alone, she might have her reasons. If not, I approach which girls feel as natural after having smiled to each other. Then the first sentence that scared me so much at first after decades of shyness. I learned that it simply doesn’t matter what is said at that moment. I usually start in n any kind of language, and after switching in a couple of different language, we both have fun about it and start to speak about each other origin. Sometimes I approach by asking if she is the amiga of Carolina or whatever other girl which usually ends up by comparing each other’s network. What I learned is that girls always wait for the very first step but will do all the rest. Unless they already have a novio, girls simply love to meet people and love to talk. At first I was scared about blanks, but it nearly never happened, girls simply love to talk. On the contrary, I usually have to interrupt myself the conversation by faking another appointment. A girl feels frustrated when you interrupt her conversation, that is the best moment to ask for her phone number to continue the conversation. Only one time I have felt some resistance, a girl asking why I wanted her number. I answered simply: “ because I want to call you”, and I received her number. Then I move. The biggest mistake guys usually do is to stay with the girl as long as they can in case it will end up in her bed which usually never happens. The first step shouldn’t be longer than 10 or 20 minutes.

The second step is the comfort phase. Remember, a girl will never call, you have to do it. Don’t worry, she gave her number, so she is expecting you to call within the next couple of days. Just call her and invite her somewhere. If I feel confident enough, I invite her for the evening somewhere, as it might end up in her bed, but I learned to do it much more elegant and invite her to do something during the daytime, having lunch, going to the beach, a park or helping me for shopping or whatever. A girl will feel much more confident to accept to go out with someone she hardly knows during daytime. I learned also that usually when I try to invite a girl for the first time by night, she will try not to come alone and bring some amiga, so daytime is a much better option. This is the phase that you need to build up confidence and learn to know each other. Avoid physical contact, and keep it to the conversation only. The second step lasts usually a couple of hours.

The third step is seduction. After the comfort zone, she feels confident, you can call her back to ask her to go out by night, a bar a disco, a restaurant, whatever and only the two of you. The girl considers this as a date and is now mentally prepared to have sex. It also allows her to prepare the logistics it involves, bringing you to her place or staying the night in your place. A couple of times, I had that the second step in the afternoon ended up the same day in the third step as we simply stayed together. Anyway, during the third step, physical contact starts. Try to touch her briefly, holding her hand, touching her arm during the conversation and check her reaction. If she shows to sign of defending her intimacy, you can move on till you kiss her. Once you have kissed her, it’s your date. Sex is just a matter of time, if it doesn’t come as fast as expected, I sometimes talk about it as mostly it’s a matter of logistics that need to be solved. Remember, most girls have kids waiting at home.
And now the best part of it: it doesn’t work only with Colombianas! This is my latest discovery, I just have had my first date in English. A couple of times when I approached girls that answered me in English, I simply moved away. I then noticed that the girls just stared at me to try to understand what went wrong. I was unfair to them, I dumped them from the very first second I learned they were no Latinas, not even giving them the chance to learn to know each other. I gave it a chance, and in fact it works exactly the same. The only difference is that I was in my comfort zone with Colombianas. Colombianas will never be rude even if they are not interested in a relation.

Colombianas gave me back my confidence with women, and once this confidence is back, you are in a circle of success. In fact I learned that there are far more lonely women than I believed and lonely women are always open to try a relationship. But I belonged to the 90% of men that simply dared not to approach women. Once you are part of the 10%, you discover a world you couldn’t even dream of. I learned new codes, building up friends networks, have a rich social life, using Facebook… Facebook is an amazing tool, the next morning you receive the pictures from your adventures of the previous night at the nightclub, or girls find you back again through Facebook if you have forgotten to ask for her number. Most nightclubs and bars are now on Facebook, which allows to find back easily someone you have met there. After years of double life behind my Routard pseudo on ISG, I had to learn to lose anonymity while hunting. Another main issue I was not prepared to is to stop each times relationships before it becomes too strong and move to the next one. This is simply the most difficult part of dating. I said one time on ISG when I was a monger, that I paid not for the sex, but for her to leave the next day. Nothing is more true than that, I still have not learned how to stop a relationship without hurting the girl. This is the most difficult part in dating girls.

I am not a monger anymore, that’s why I have stopped writing on ISG. I sometimes read the forum, for example to follow the adventures of my friend Zing. After your experience in Colombia, what will be the path you will follow, my friend? I have not mentioned one important thing, there is another issue with the new life I have chosen. When I left my family, I realized how much I loved them, and they realized how much they loved me. Once free at last in my bachelor apartment, ready to fuck as many girls as possible, I cried for the very first time of my adult life.

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Good luck brother.

Stayed in Bogota a few times. These two places I strongly recommend. Chica friendly and you couldn't beat the location.

1. If you want to stay somewhere close to Santa Fe I always stay at Hotel Centro Internacional. Located right on the corner of Transmilenio Parada Ave. 39 which is only 3 exits north of Santa Fe. Plus it's close to Javeriana Univ. which is has a ton of pre-pagos. There is a small charge for chicas but very friendly. Sain is the day manager and knows exactly where to go.

[url]http://www.hotelcentrointernacional.com/[/url]

2. If you want to stay in the north, I've stayed at this apartment which rents rooms in Santa Barbara. Very private with relaxed management. No extra charge for chicas. Walking distance to La Mansion and right across the street from Bogota Beer Company. Close to Transmilenio and one exit away from One Relax (Prado exit, next to Cali Mio). Apartment address : 19A 122-33. Talk to Fred or Chris.
[url]http://www.travel-library.com/b&b/south_america/colombia/bogota/santa_barbara_guest_rooms_bogota.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Routard]Great series of reports Zing. It reminds me my experience one year ago when I discovered Colombia myself for the very first time. I know how you are feeling, an overflow of experiences that need time to be analyzed. ...
Another main issue I was not prepared to is to stop each times relationships before it becomes too strong and move to the next one. This is simply the most difficult part of dating, as the last thing I'm looking for is again a long term relationship and loosing again my freedom. ... I still have not learned how to stop a relationship without hurting the girl. This is the most difficult part in dating girls.[/QUOTE]Wow. Incredible reply to my adventures in Colombia.

I too find that stopping relationships is very difficult. I don't like to disappoint people and I found that I could raise incredible expectations in these Colombianas. [In fact, this is probably how I got married 2 times before, by not wanting to disappoint. And it is also why pros are so comfortable.]

I know it would be better to clearly explain why it cannot go any further or any longer, but so far I can never find the words. So I often end up just disappearing. Not a good strategy if I decide to date seriously and develop a circle of new friends and will soon develop a reputation!

Zing

Tried this agency last week with the business going down in motel Royal Garden in chapinero.

Diana was priced at the lower end of the market $150,000 for an hour and you cant make out the faces on the web site(for good reason). She was friendly enough and after waiting 45 minutes for her to arrive (the agency will call your motel, apartment or hotel before sending the girl) I was ready to fuck anything. And she was called anything for sure, not that pretty and not worth 150,000. I suppose the more expensive girls are better looking but 250,000 or more is too much for 30 min chat and the same again of sex.

The motel is okay 35,000 and 2,500 a beer. Sex was functional cant say more than that.

Better off however looking in the clubs where you can have a look before emptying the contents of your wallet. The agencys are not like they are in London and from what has been said on the forum most of the others are bait and switch jobs.

[QUOTE=Zing23]Wow. Incredible reply to my adventures in Colombia.

I too find that stopping relationships is very difficult. I don't like to disappoint people and I found that I could raise incredible expectations in these Colombianas. [In fact, this is probably how I got married 2 times before, by not wanting to disappoint. And it is also why pros are so comfortable.]

I know it would be better to clearly explain why it cannot go any further or any longer, but so far I can never find the words. So I often end up just disappearing. Not a good strategy if I decide to date seriously and develop a circle of new friends and will soon develop a reputation!

Zing[/QUOTE]Zing,

I just returned a Paisa to Colombia last month after bringing her here on a K1 fiancee visa. I do love her and almost got married (again) because I did not want to disappoint. It is so easy to be enticed and to get involved with the regular chicas but in my future travels I will try much harder to stick with the working girls because I do not like to see sweet, honest women getting hurt badly.

To be honest I feel that the "thrill" to me is in the chase. I have spent time in Medellin, Cali, Bogota, CTG & BAQ and no matter where I travel in COL. there is always an abbundance of cute regular chicas. I have always liked to hit the casas during the day and to go out with a sweet non pro at night.

I still want to have fun but I would like to do it in a way that minimizes emotional hurt of both the chicas and myself.

Rainman3

We men feel always guilty towards women that has offered us sex, if we haven't paid, we feel as if we have a debt. Don't worry, we all have that same weakness.

Leaving without explaination is a strategy that works in countries where you will never come back again. Once you live or come back on a regular basis in your hunting country, you can't ruin your reputation. I realize I am relying more and more on my build up network than trying to approach complete strange girls.

At first I lied about my family, as I tried to give myself as much chances of success as possible for dating. I soon realized it was stupid, as it's highly unlikely that men of my age are still single for so many years. Also lies always end up to put yourself in an uncomfortable situation.

I am now very open within my network and with the girls I date about my family. I claim to be separated but still responsible of my family especially my kids. I have not noticed I was less succesfull in dating compared to when I lied and claimed to be single. I even realized it is highly valued among Latinas to care for your family even if you are separeted, especially your kids. Most of Latinas have already their own kids and suffer from men that have left them alone. It allows me to put some limits and to explain why I am not looking for a long term relationship. I don't say it is easy to stop a relationship even if my date was aware from the beginning about my intentions. Latinas can love so strong, it is sometimes scarry. But I have till now never experienced a Latina that tried to screw me after having been dumped. They know I was fair with them from the beginning and that I gave them hapiness for the time we where together. It's a matter of mutual respect.

Zing, you are again back at home now in your house and with your family after having experienced 3 weeks of freedom. You have experienced dating but with time constraint and moral dilemma as you are married. Imagine what could be your life if you decided to break the chains and move to Colombia...

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[QUOTE=Routard]The first step is the attraction during the first encounter. I believed at first that it was important to develop a complex strategy, but it is far much easier than anyone can believe. A girl is attracted to a guy or not, it doesn’t matter how she meets her. The only thing I learned to do is to detect whether a girl is attracted to me or not, this is the only skill I have. I am always alert, and as soon as I see a girl watching me, I give her a great smile. At first I made the mistake to try to make eye contact before, but I realized shy girls then usually avoid eye contact while most usually reply by a smile to a great smile. If she doesn’t smile, I leave her alone, she might have her reasons. If not, I approach which girls feel as natural after having smiled to each other. Then the so called opener, the first sentence that scared me so much at first after decades of shyness. I learned that it simply doesn’t matter what is said at that moment. I usually start in n any kind of language, and after switching in a couple of different language, we both have fun about it and start to speak about each other origin. Sometimes I approach by asking if she is the amiga of Carolina or whatever other girl which usually ends up by comparing each other’s network. What I learned is that girls always wait for the very first step but will do all the rest. Unless they already have a novio, girls simply love to meet people and love to talk. At first I was scared about blanks, but it nearly never happened, girls simply love to talk. On the contrary, I usually have to interrupt myself the conversation by faking another appointment. A girl feels frustrated when you interrupt her conversation, that is the best moment to ask for her phone number to continue the conversation. Only one time I have felt some resistance, a girl asking why I wanted her number. I answered simply: “ because I want to call you”, and I received her number. Then I move. The biggest mistake guys usually do is to stay with the girl as long as they can in case it will end up in her bed which usually never happens. The first step shouldn’t be longer than 10 or 20 minutes.[/QUOTE]I read the recent posts on this forum, and I have read a lot of the archives.

This single paragraph from Routard is the most intelligent, most insightful, most important paragraph I have ever seen here.

Routard is not arrogant. Routard is accurate.

Colombia is the easiest place in the world to meet and date beautiful women. The only thing you have to fear is fear itself.

I met this hotty a few years ago in Bogota and have had a few repeat visits, but lost touch with her a year ago. She's a graduate now of the national university, intelligent, fun, and amazing in 'la cama'. A girlfriend experience if ever there was one. If any of you have come across her I would appreciate a renewed contact. She was going under the name Alexa two years ago.

Thanks!

After seeing some of the reports here lately on Atunes etc I popped in on Tuesday to have a look. My first impressions were that is was bigger than I expected and I was surprised to see so many men and women. At first I thought I was in a regular club, but a quick glance at the women 'hovvering around' confirmed that they were not in fact regular girls. I was a bit disapointed at the girls, many were black and while I'm no stranger to a pretty black chick now and again, I like to see a variety especially morenas or triguenas from Cali, Pereira or Medellin. The music was loud and electronic and maybe its a good place to visit in a group at weekends but it wasnt for me going solo. Popped into La Piscina but was dead due to the festivo (holiday weekend) there were next to no chicks of much value. After my second beer in La Piscina I went across the road to the casas and tried looking again for BBBJ (my attempts before I entered La Piscina fell through) Eventually I found a busty blonde who initially said no but then agreed to 20,000 extra. So 52,000 all in including the room for 20 min. Pretty good oral and sex but no GFE and much faking noises and antics.

My main reason for the report is to share some more information about the club Zing went to and another sister club. The club with ther blue(or black) door on calle 86A carrera 14 is not so obvious. I drove past twice but was sitting across from the 3 clubs (Extasis etc) looking to find it. Fortunately the tout or portero asked me what I was looking for and I went up. Unfortunately I was too early at 6.30pm and nobody was there however I was impressed by the quality of the place, real small, modern and stylish (for a prostibulo!!!) and probably more discrete than other places. The drinks however are not cheap 30,000 for a small can of beer - club colombia etc 120,000 half bottle of rum 240,000 full bottle and the whisky is more expensive. Thats 120 dollars! Anyway as it was early the tout took me up to another place called The High Class Inn which is on Carrera 15 Calle 88 2 block away more or less. Impressive place, same prices as before and the first bunch of chicas there were not too impressive. Some okay but some others arrived later after 7pm and also at 8pm. By this time I was already talking to one chica who I did like but didnt take up any offer except her cell number for call her next week. The bar fine is 93,000 or the same again on site they have 4 rooms, also private rooms to talk and drink with girl(s) if you dont want to be in public. The bar manager who is a mid fortys women speaks English and there are a couple of bilingual girls there for gringos who dont speak a word of spanish. But take my advice learn some you will have a better and easier time. Apart from the drinks prices the prices for chicas seem reasonable for the north and for 1 hour. If you go out I think the time restrictions are less and its up to you to negotiate.

Overall quite impressed with these places as they are quite safe and luxurios, also you can clearly see the girls in their tru colour without neon lights or darkness hiding flaws. Beer goggles are the ony visual obstruction.

Would recommend these places to newbies in Bogota.

Hi,

What is a Triguenas?

Thanks,

Mel

[QUOTE=Mel365]Hi,

What is a Triguenas?

Thanks,

Mel[/QUOTE]Trigo = wheat. A trigueña (sp?) is wheat-colored, ie light-tan skin.

El trigo is "wheat" in spanish. Basically, these are girls with wheat coloured skin, mainly from antiochia. My first triguena was Andrea from Pereira, exceptionally beautiful girl.

Further to my previous post on this forum and Zing23s which introduced me t this club, I would like to share some information which might be helpful to other mongers. Hope its not too much for you.

On Friday night after having a few drinks with friends after having a quick look in Gotica to see what the club was like as heard good things (empty, basically) with a combination of beers and too much aguardiente I walked over to calle 86. There as ever, were the touts looking to get everyone in to the chica clubs. Having has a little too much too drink and it being around 2.30am I, against my better wishes, bought some perico, which as everyone knows allows you too keep drinking and whatever else until whatever time.

Entered the club and was amazed to see it so busy and guess what - hardly any men. I suspect that Santa Fe at the weekend is overfilled with men all fighting for the best chicas and it felt great to see 20 pairs of eyes all on me. Having been there only for a short time on Tuesday and not see any girls I was relieved to see that the quality was much better than the High class inn. Whether this is because it was Friday night rather than during the week I dont know but I suspect as with many clubs girls are pretty much freelance and the difference is sometimes the night and not the club.
Anyway off to the toilets to powder my nose, sat down ordered a beer (25,000 pesos ouch!) and was introduced to all the girls. This is a nice touch which you dont get in Santa Fe, you have to look for yourself through the darkness and neon lights and decided who to call over unless you are lucky and they introduce themselves to you. You get a good idea whos hot and whos not.

Anyway couldn’t make up mind straight away and was just enjoying my beer and the slowly changing effect of the perico when one of the girls who was sitting on a sofa but about 6 feet away from me looked round and said Hola. I was surprised at this because there were other chicas more closer to me, some with big tits on show and I hadn’t noticed this other girl. She must have decided to make her move before the others. Anyway she looked nice enough so called her over. Think her name was Paula but don’t really remember. She was quite nice, nice slim body, quite tall, not big tits but ok, nice black hair the way I like it, fair skin but with great eyes. She was from Bogota and told me she only worked there now and again and had a young son. I believe this to be true as she didn’t seem like a hard core puta and this is something to look out for in Colombia. The best encounters are to be had with women who don’t do this too often but just to pay some bills, maybe single mothers etc. And if you can hit it off with them then a GFE is on the cards.

Anyway we hit if off great, real chatty, few more drinks until I guess about 4-4.30am when I pulled the trigger and asked for the room. I had scouted out the possibility of a GFE with DFK and was told no problem. I think it helped that she was attracted to me, GFE are more likely if the women likes you so best to present yourself physically best as you can, make her laugh, be nice to her and don’t treat her as a puta. Buy her a couple of drinks also to loosen her up even if they are a rip off.

We went into one of the rooms (there aren’t many) which had been busy before or something, this was strange as there didn’t appear to be much men but maybe I wasn’t paying much attention to them. Basically they have sofa beds which are folded down so you can get down to business. Paid the bar tab which came in at 220,000 pesos - 93,000 for the room on site and chica (bar fine is same) plus the four drinks around 25,000-30,000 each. A bit steep but quality don’t come cheap and the room was for an hour. In the end the payback was worth the outlay.

What happened next blew me away. Now I have had some great encounters with prepagos either in other countries and one in Bogota before this. Generally the ratio can be 1 GFE to five or up to ten average or poor encounters. The same might be said of my encounters with non pros, I have had some great one night stands or short term relationships with Americans, Australians, finnish, english and other nationalities. But then some crap ones with girls with whom you quickly realise why they were easy to pull. This is life unfortunately.

Anyway we started off kissing and DFK like novios, it was really passionate and we moved on to me kissing her neck, removing her top and then her bra getting access to her breasts. As I moved around and down I could sense her reactions were positive and so my goal was to pleasure her as it felt like a third date with a girl who was into me. I removed her jeans and g string without much resistance, picked her up and dropped her on the bed. I think she was surprised at this but liked it. Don’t be afraid to be manly with women whereaver they are from, even prepagos.

Remember women are all similar when it comes to sex they liked to be dominated by a man. From kissing her whole body especially round the hips region, I moved to the V region. Of course she went crazy for this and came passionately. We moved from there with me on my back and she went to my southern regions as it was my turn for pleasure. Of course she came out with a condom but I told her to put it away for oral and to chupame sin condom. This she duly obliged and I swear if it hadn’t been for the drink and perico I’m sure I would have finished pretty quickly, and her mouth was heaven. After what seemed an eternity I got her on top of me and into the cowgirl rhythm. Changed a few positions and after what seemed to be ages decided couldn’t cum like that and asked her to take me in her mouth again. She duly obliged and eventually finished out of her mouth.

A bit of DFK again and went to clean up. When I came back from the bathroom she was dressed again and the room showed no evidence of what had gone before. I paid her the 150,000 pesos she asked for and felt no pain for parting for the cash. The reason 2 hours has passed and it had been incredible, something which doesn’t happen all the time and even with regular girls although you might get DFK you are not generally going to get BBBJ the first you night you have sex so it was pretty damn good. You can pay 90,000 a pop for 15-20min quickies in La Piscina with good looking girls but maybe not a GFE so you have to get the price in perspective.
Left the club around 6.15-6.30, surprised to see most of the girls still there, few men, not quite sure at what time it closes if it does Sunday morning. Overall quite impressed with the place, maybe a bit pricer than other places but safe, good and different atmosphere (like your own private puta bar) plenty girls to choose from and I suspect other GFEs available. Highly recommended go there if you are in town.

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just finishing up a work-week in bogota. i call it a work week, but i neglected to attend a single meeting, so it was really a paid vacation, i suppose. the experience was varied and i attempted to make mental notes of all things for the purpose of this report. unfortunately, i was not able to be here on a friday or saturday night, which would have added more balance. i’ll split my review into two parts: general impressions and specific experiences.

general impression of the city

the city seems like the size of sao paulo north and south, and probably is. the width, of course, is restricted by beautiful mountains that serve to trap the urban sprawl along with the ever-present exhaust smog. the elongated format of the city along with the intelligent grid methodology makes it a breeze to navigate. for the first time, i carried a small compass that helped on several occasions. the tele-milineo is like a train system on wheels, and is extremely easy to decipher. in the short time i was here, i was able to figure out how to take an express bus even when it didn’t stop at my destination, then connect on the same platform to a local bus to complete the trip.

the real local restaurants are awesome. for lunch one day, we sat down to a pre-set meal at an eclectic location in the candeleria area (calle 12 and cr. 5, or so). we were offered two types of soup, salad, chicken or beef, several types of potato, a small dessert, and choice of juices including passion fruit. our total bill was $5. 00us—for both of us!

i found the people busy and friendly, to an extent. my spanish is good enough to communicate, but is tiresome for locals as i have to work extremely hard to understand their end of the conversation and i constantly back myself into a linguistic corner. i would say that the city is fairly safe for the most part. by that, there are few places with gringo visitors, which means there are not opportunistic tourist criminals lying in wait. so, it might be relatively dangerous for the local people, but we don’t draw a premium risk like we do in rio, buenos aires, and santiago. in fact, in my five days, i saw a total of 2 gringos outside of my hotel.

i enjoyed the parks, squares, museums and the architecture, particularly in the candeleria area. the most interesting was the police museum, which was free to enter and included an english-speaking tour guide. if you are wondering how much safer colombia is compared to the escobar era, consider that as many as 3, 000 policemen and policewomen were killed in a single year during the cartel hey-days, then compare that to the last two years when around 100 have been lost. that’s still a high number, but 1/60th of the previous carnage.

from a mongering standpoint, i have mixed feelings. like the many developing economies where there is nearly no middle class, the offerings seem to lack viable mid-priced options. i read every report from the last two years, and 90% from the beginning of the "new" isg. transferred to a word document, the last year occupied 497 screens in "read" mode. i highlighted every reference to a location or provider that i found helpful to my journey. to be honest, the information was more limited than you might think. i know newbies are flamed for not rtff, but you might be surprised how difficult it is to decipher helpful information. i often wish we ran the forum like a large one in brazil: gpguia with a.net on the end. every time a poster reviews a girl, he answers 4 simple questions: positive//neutral/negative overall experience, dfk y/n, bbbj y/n, and anal y/n. then, at one glance you can see the ratios for these answers for an entire establishment, or you can bring up all of the girls for an establishment on one spreadsheet.

anyway, there is no shortage of locations for sex in bogota. there are hundreds of girls on the street in santa fe, hundreds of "massage" or "whiskeria" establishments, and many, many night clubs. the majority of options fall into the first several categories and are on the low end. street girls go from $10, cheap establishments start there also but $15 seems to be the starting point for anything meaningful, and the whiskerias cost around double that including the room. however, all of these places make you feel a little icky. there are few showers for you or for them, the rooms are old, dingy and poorly equipped, and i rarely saw any sheets.

it seems like the prices jump from there. the lower-end places in santa fe cost around $40 plus all of the club bs of buying drinks, exit fees, tips for no apparent reason and the like. the only thing that differentiates these places from the last group is a nicer bar area.

the higher end places described on this forum cost upwards of $100. i went in a place or two like that, but would not consider partaking. similarly, i don’t go to black or madahos in ba, barbarellas in rio, or take the cien girls from the blue marlin in san jose. the difference is, in each of those places, i’ve found viable $50 dollar options that provide everything one would possibly want.

there are two overriding issues: condoms and tips. in fact, that may be my new personal colloquial reference to bogota: land of c’s & t’s. i can tell you that, aside from mexico, have i had more trouble getting an unencumbered bj. i know several posters in this section have reported otherwise, but, at the price point i shopped, a bbbj was elusive. the safe sex education program seems to be extremely strong in colombia, which i suppose is a good thing. still, it just added layers of items to work around.

the second, sometimes related issue, involves incremental tipping or direct charging for each service. this put me in mind of brighton beach, where table teepees described the price in pounds for each service (none of which were particularly inspired, anyway). the idea of paying them extra for daty? crazy, but that happened twice. i mean, i like it, but, in essence, the service is for them, not me. the benefit to me has often been a profound effort in return to make me feel as good as i made them, but the act itself is near philanthropic.

i will say that there is a huge difference between the experience here and mexico. the attempt for tips in mexico is overt and constant, where it comes up as a matter of business imbedded in an otherwise pleasant time in bogota.

the legit social scene is unbelievable. i’ve enjoyed zona rosa and parque 93 immensely, and we heard that chia is a lot of fun, although we ran out of time for that trip. i had three encounters with young, beautiful girls without making a single effort (i should clarify that "encounter" implies talking, dancing, snuggling and trading numbers, nothing more). honestly, i’ve been to many cities in the world, and i can’t think of a better atmosphere than zona rosa.

day-by-day to follow.

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I guess it just shows how much YMMV. I live here and I can't STAND the ZR and prefer just about anywhere else to hang out.

The condom thing is spot on though, P4P activity is perfectly legal here, but condom use within Bogota limits is absolutely mandatory, or the place could get padlocked. That's why it's so hard to get BBBJ here.

Hello everyone,

I will be traveling to Bogota near the end of the year (first trip to Colombia) and I have made a number of connections with chicas from websites (porno)...we have become friendly. I'd like to go a few places with them, but I have preliminary safety concerns (ex NYC resident).

Does anyone have experience with a driver that I can hire that will get me to places and BACK safely? We want to go to La Piscina together...does that seem like a risk? And a Casino called or at 93 something. What would my relationship with this driver be? Does he come in the clubs with me?

My spanish is excellent, well-traveled...if this were Costa Rica it would not even be a question. Just new and somewhat controversial territory.

I would deeply appreciate some advice from more experienced Bogota travelers.

Thank you!

Upgrade your membership so you can PM me and let me know the girl's nicks and if possible which studio they work for. I can then tell you if they are trustworthy or not. If they are you will have no problems.

My point to me writing is I always here about everyone going to La Piscina. Well I went to La Piscina last night. But I have to say, I'm more impressed with Paisas. Yes, it's classified as a strip bar but then there's only a couple of girls dancing per hour anyways. In my opinion, Paisa has better looking chicas and an atmosphere where you can talk. Or if you don't want to talk, you can take the girl right upstairs. Cover is cheap, 2k pesos and that includes a beer. In fact every time I go to Santa Fe, my first stop is Paisas.

In the past, we've operated as a guest house renting rooms in Bogota. Now we're an outlet for you to not only stay, but enjoy the beauties of Bogota entertainment as well. Reasonable rates and contacts just a phone call away.

[url]http://sites.google.com/site/hotelvipbogota/Home[/url]

[QUOTE=Vip Bogota]In the past, we've operated as a guest house renting rooms in Bogota. Now we're an outlet for you to not only stay, but enjoy the beauties of Bogota entertainment as well. Reasonable rates and contacts just a phone call away.

[url]http://sites.google.com/site/hotelvipbogota/Home[/url][/QUOTE]What are the rate for the chicas? Do any of them speak English?

Hello All,

Does any one have info on Sheraton hotel is chica freindly? and do they charge extra?

For a first time visitor which will be the place to visit (spanish is not good),

Any info you share will be greatly appreciated.

Rgds Fokker

Rates vary but I know for a fact Lorena costs 100k/hr. Others range from 100-260/hr. I think

[QUOTE=Hlover]What are the rate for the chicas? Do any of them speak English?[/QUOTE]

I'm checking out of this guest house on Thursday. The two guys who are renting rooms are american, or at least they speak good english. Anyways, they hooked me up with one of their girls, Lorena. A university chica who kisses on the first date. Sweet! A steal, since she charged me 100k an hour, so I took her for 3. Wish I had my camera cause she was everything but shy. Thanks guys! Hey, I should be getting commissions for writing this review of you. They are the Santa Barbara vip hotel guys that don't charge extra for chicas. The website is somewhere in this thread.

[QUOTE=Vip Bogota]Np love to travel. Glad to have you as our guest.

We just added 3 new girls to our list (Lorena, Jenifer, Valery).

[url]http://sites.google.com/site/hotelvipbogota/Home[/url][/QUOTE]Shouldn't this go under "Classified ads" rather than "Bogota Reports"?

[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen]Shouldn't this go under "Classified ads" rather than "Bogota Reports"?[/QUOTE]I need the address for a houea or casa named oto, s it is near zone rosa. I am know someone here will have the adress and any imformation about the housa would great thanks as always.

Technically, I guess that should be posted to Classified, but it is a good bit of info and doesn't hurt the link.

I will drop by and visit it next week. I never think of looking in clasified.

Mel

When I get more updates from you guys.

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[QUOTE=Mel365]Technically, I guess that should be posted to Classified, but it is a good bit of info and doesn't hurt the link.

I will drop by and visit it next week. I never think of looking in clasified.

Mel[/QUOTE]

Hello!

I was checking el tiempo.com and in the Vive.in section they had a video report about Galerias Nightclubs for dancing. The Reporter sayed that many women go there looking for a partner for one night. I Was wondering If any of you have gone there looking forn non pros and how did you do.

Thanks!

Hello Gents,

Any one can recommend reliable guide in Bogota (my spanish is kinda minimal).

Thanks alot.

Are you still available?

It does not look like anyone can PM you.

[QUOTE=Guide Bogota]If you are interested in knowing some interesting places in Bogota I can show you around. Just send me a PM.

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