I will be there for the first time. Question, when did this site come back up? I had changed email and was not aware. I think this is the best site for exchanging info around.
Thanks
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I will be there for the first time. Question, when did this site come back up? I had changed email and was not aware. I think this is the best site for exchanging info around.
Thanks
i went to swinger club spartacus past saturday. every saturday from 10pm-3am only couples get in.
carrera 23a #8a-17, 5570764. a 3k-5k cab drive from av.6. 60k entrance fee per couple.
big titted amigos.com girl was with me. i explained to her what a swinger club was saying that most likely couples would be having sex in front of us and we could do the same and maybe more...
see didn´t really wanted to go and she said no way that we would have sex in front of the others. but at least she wasn´t totally blown off by the idea.
we arrived around 10pm. you can bring in your own drinks and we bought 2 small bottles of rum and a bottle of coke from the night shop on the same block.
actually we gave the money to the guy at the front desk. he gave it to a kid at the door who went to get it for us while we got inside.
behind the front desk there is a small place with lockers. there is a door on the left which leads to what looks like a regular disco.
another door behind that to the far left which leads to a room with porn playing on a big screen tv and 4 or 5 2m by 1m spaces with massage tables in it.
in the disco area there is a jacuzzi on the left and further on the left is the sauna. there were about 4 couples in the disco area.
we sat down and drank a bit when some more couples started coming in. in the end there were a total of 8-9 couples. my girl was the only black girl and i could see quite some men were interested in her.
the strip-tease show started around 11.30pm. a little skinny white girl with long black hair and small tits.
show was ok. then a muscular black guy came in started dancing and stripping too.
the girl would go grind her pussy on the laps of the men and the male stripper would do the same to the women.
then there was a pause. a little later they came back when the dj started playing reggeaton.
now the strippers got people to dance with them one by one, getting them out out of their blouses and shirts.
most of the time the dance was pretty normal, regular. when the girl came for me i decided to spice it up a little.
while dancing i grabbed and groped like everybody else then i turned her around, bend her over and danced and grinded against her while slapping her ass.
she got into it even more, because she turned around and made me lie down on the dance floor. now she was jumping up and down on me as if she was riding my dick.
we ended dancing, laying in 69 position. no fucking or sucking though.
after that during the next pause i was horny and wanted my girl to suck me off. so we went to the locker room. there are 3 mirrors there.
i could tell she was kinda drunk and horny because she enjoyed looking at herself and me through the mirrors with that naughty "i´m a bad little girl"-look.
after 5 min. we went back to the disco room and the live sex show began.
the little stripper did a great job sucking off the black dude. and they fucked in all kind of positions for about 10-15 min.. it was ok. no cumshot nor facial though.
after that i danced some with my girl. only 4 couples danced frequently and the only 2 stunners in the place never danced. they also left early and most of the girls in the place were average.
i noticed my girl was enjoying the whole thing, dancing wild, drinking straight from the bottle.
anyway most guys in the place were still shirtless thanks to the stripper. some girls walked around in their bra and my girl pulled down her dress too.
i wanted to fuck and we went to one of the massage tables. i used my own condoms. a good session followed with her being horny as fuck and me trying to squeeze the shit out of her juicy titties while ramming her.
she would go back and forth from "damelo suavecito, si suavecito, papi" to "deme, demeee, mas duro, papi, durooooooo".
after that we chilled down with our rum bottle in front of the tv playing porn. she went to the bathroom and a guy came over to chit chat.
the same guy who used the microphone to anounce the stripping and show.
my girl came back and the guy told me it was time for the couples to get out of their clothes and into the sauna.
good idea and next thing we walking in our underwear through the disco area. but i stop when i see the jacuzzi and decide to cool off there.
because i sweated quite enough already during the fucking in the massage area.
the other couples aren´t there yet and we´re both butt naked.
things are getting heated up and as i left my clothes with my condoms in the locker i go to the reception to get two condoms.
these were quite small though. the smallest condoms i´ve ever gotten in colombia. the tension on my dick was too big.
that combined with rum (rum always fucks up my system) and the fact that i drank 2 litre of juice before going to the club (so i had to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]) didn´t really help me.
my dick would get hard, limp, hard, limp,...
my girl sucked me, tit fucked me and microphone guy showed up and started touching her while she did so.
so although she did not want to have sex in front of the others we ended up being the first couple doing exactly that.
what some alcohol and sexual excitement can get a girl to do, huh?
microphone guy´s chick and some other couple also get in the jacuzzi. and while i´m fucking microphone guy´s chick rubs my ass and dick.
at first my girl wouldn´t let the other couples touch her. she moved away when they touched her.
i tell her let´s take a break and watch the others. micro guy persists and before you know it everybody is grabbing and groping her ass and titties, finger fucking her.
i take a break and watch the others get busy. lots of sucking going but my girl didn´t want to suck anyone off. instead she jumped on the other girl, masturbating and kissing her.
micro chick came to sit on top of me reversely while she sucked off her man. i was in only a second and my girl saw me and got jealous and led me to the other girl whose titties i started to lick.
i got back to micro chick who now started to suck me off while her man masturbated my chick.
again she wanted to sit on me. my girl got pissed saying, you can touch, lick, suck but don´t penetrate anyone. i don´t want that.
it was all cool with me as the other 2 women were ok, but i liked my chick better. on top of that the tiny condom was killing me.
she wanted to go in the sauna. we go and when i´m in, i tell her wait here i´m off to the bathroom.
i figured a good [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] was all i needed to get in better shape. after all i wanted to try once more to get her into fucking in the orgy.
she said papi don´t go to the bathroom, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] right here and before i know it i see [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] gushing out of her pussy while she´s standing right in front of me talking.
in the middle of the sauna, on her sandals, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] all over the place. i mean this wasn´t just peeing, this was if someone emptied a bucket of water right there.
i looked down and it took me a second to realize what she was doing. i´ll never forget that image. kinky but ok, a new experience and a another crazy story i can tell my buddies.
i still had to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] and saw there was a door to a shower in the sauna and i figured that wasn´t too bad. so i went in there and tried to concentrate because i was still a little aroused.
she followed me and started touching me and kissing my chest. i was like baby please don´t exite me i want to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url].
she got away from me with about 1 metre. i aimed for the drainage for the shower and did my thing.
she saw me pissing for a second and came over again. took my dick out of my hand and aimed it at her belly, stomach and pussy.
i was peeing all over her. i was like holy fuck, what are you doing. she was horny as hell.
my dick got hard again and i stopped. i smiled, laughed and said girl, please, give me a second. i managed to finish up and we took a shower there together.
after this she wanted to go home. we went to eat something on the av. 6ta and after that i had a great session at my app.
after the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] and using my own condoms i was as good as new. i even managed to get my dick in her ass a little. she was still reluctant though, although i used lube.
i was tired of struggling and her moaning it hurts, it hurts. so i just went for the facial and we slept.
i had hoped there would be hotter women at the club and more people, bigger orgies. but still a good experience.
especially the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] stuff still makes me laugh.
[QUOTE=Surfer]You already know that wandering around drunk in Cali (or anywhere in Colombia really) is not really wise, but neither is walking around in residential areas you don't know well (especially carrying a camera or other valuables). Taxis are CHEAP! Have the driver WAIT outside the house. You are lucky you only lost your camera. Be careful out there.
Your punishment for such folly is that you must now post a picture of the large, REAL, hooters (while obscurring the chicas face). Houston, we have a problem: you LOST THE MEMORY CARD! So you must let Freeze take a couple new pictures of her cleavage (with you so it looks kosher then edit you out!)[/QUOTE]
Yeah, you're absolutely right. Oh well, next time.
I moved most of my pics over to my laptop so I have 3 pics of her titties left. However I wish I'd taken some more from all angles.
I tried to upload the pics, which didn't work. So I put them on my page instead. [url]http://www.ivosfotos.com/titties/[/url]
Swing clubs can be great fun, and lots of girls are really curious but have to feign shock and horror at participating. But as you note, after some liquor and watching others get busy lots of them will get in the mood.
You story about the chica pissibng in front of you reminds me of the pro who hooked onto to me (truly for "free")in Trujillo, Peru. She went in the bathroom to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] and I asked her if she was going to shut the door. She said "why, does it bother yu?" I had to think about it for a minute, but I said no it doesn't bother me. But culturally we don't expect that as we Americans are so coquetish. Europeans and Latins are much less so.
Nice hooters on the chica indeed but the jealousy thing is a downer. Well done man.
I have yet to meet Latin girl who wasn't into the whole "pissing with the door open" bit. My old Dominican girlfriend would sometimes actually make me accompany her to the bathroom as she took a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]. I asked her why, and she said she just felt more comfortable that way. About the door being open, one related that her brothers would always yell at her about that when she was young, but that she didn't want to miss a thing while she was in the bathroom! (I don't think this applys for #2, though, lol)
[QUOTE=Lost In Paradise]Ave 11 north 7n- 201. Apartment Elaleph. If Jackson allow heres photos of place click photosyahoo.com/pheiguren.. the owner name is Pete. 3 weeks in pussy heaven soon.
Gary[/QUOTE]
I sent a person over to check on this apartment and they said that it is not a valid address. I would appreciate knowing how to find this apt as I will be in Cali for 3 weeks. Thanks
well, peeing with the door open doesn´t really bother me at all. and indeed now that i think of it a lot of latina´s leave the door open while they go to the bathroom. another one once squatted in the ocean at the beach and peed right there while people were walking around all over (you´ve been warned).
but there is a big difference with peeing in the middle of the sauna and taking my dick out of my hand and pointing it at herself. hahahahahahaahah
Hi Guys :
I am debating where I should go from these 2 cities.
I dont speak spanish and I want easy access of beautiful fair skinned women in good clean atmosphere. I dont want to waste my time to chase women since I will be in for only 4 days.
Guys please help me on this one.
Tony.
Tony, you'd be better off in Cartagena. Cali has a lot of casas, mostly cheap ones, but you have to look long and hard to find a good performer and decent looking.
LDV in Cartagena has nice lookers nightly and it's still very affordable.
Cali has a lot to offer but you need to stay longer for it to pay off, not to mention speak some Spanish.
Hello fellow mongers,
Just returned from 3 marvelous weeks in Colombia. My trip started in Cali at Petes apartment 35 bucks anite. Just 1 problem w/ Petes apartment. (No view) as his apartment is on the first floor. If your a late nite person this apartment might not be your partay. The whole week there the other tenants are early to bed. You definetly have to keep the noise down as no 1 gets up before 10 am. Those heading to Cali, I met this local english speaking guy Darron who agree on small price 60, 000 pesos a day plus meals to take me by bus to Pereira then to Medellin. Darron does thing the local way. look for cheap *****houses, cheap meals, travel by bus which are excellent in Colombia. Those heading to Pereira go for it. lots of hookers and nitelife there. TrY staying near the park area. The 6am church bells will be your wake up call. The bus ride from Pereira to Medellin (3 hours) is definetly a must. Those needing DARRON PH # or any info about him don't hesitate to use him.
Gary
311-395-5946 or 572-335-6970.
Come on guys help me in deciding which city to chose for fair skinned ladies for 4 days. I speak no spanish.
I second Cachoro. If you're going for a 3 day trip and do not speak spanish, go to Cartagena, you'll have less of a bad time.
Have fun.
Freeze
TONY USA ... go to Cartagena already!
4 days ... no espanol ... it's perfect.
... if ya like the fair skin, go to LDV and find yourself a Paisita de Medellin ... obviously the local Costenas are of the dark skin type.
Enjoy!
Thanks guys for your recommendations.
The problem for me going to CTG is about 14 hrs of flight with change of planes in Atlanta and Bogota. Feels too much of a hassel.
Where as Continental is starting there flight from Houston to Cali in early July and than it will be only like 8-9 hrs flight for me.
Which airline is good for going to CTG from North West.
I suggest you look at Continental Houston to Panama and Copa Panama to Cartagena. They have good connection going down in Panama. This does not show up on round trip info requests and may require night in Panama on way back which would be good opportunity to check out that spot.
Hey guys,
I’ve been reading your suggestions to Tony USA and see that you are steering him towards Cartagena. I’ve always heard that Cartagena is more user-friendly and there is a good selection of women from all over Colombia, but most of the girls there are very dark-skinned. It doesn’t sound like that will be an issue for Tony USA since he can find light-skinned girls at LDV.
You guys are definitely the professionals when it comes to Colombia and Tony USA is better off following your advice. I was sort of hoping that you would recommend Cali to him though. Tony USA just made a trip to Peru and wrote a very non-biased report on Lima and I think the “tell-all” reports like that one are very useful to anyone that may be debating on a trip to a certain place.
I have a question though… you say that a 4-day trip really would not be worth his time in Cali. Is that mainly because he does not speak Spanish? I can speak Spanish and I have thought about taking a brief trip to Cali also, but would a 4-day trip even be worth bothering with? I thought that Cali had good casas to go to for p4p action like Flores Frescas and some other ones in town.
Young and Restless
Originally, my first16 trips were to Cali. Other than getting laid at Flora Frescas and trying to meet girls at the agencies, there is not too much to do.
Cartagena has a beach and wonderful ocean view. More tourists and some English. Overall there is alot more to do there. HIstoric city to visit, launch trips to outer islands.
Cali is ok, but I have outgrown it.
Girls are darker skinned in Cali, there is a variety in Cartagena.
Good luck. Maybe others have different opinions, that is ok. Its like flavors of ice cream. Some have favorite cities.
My Respected Mongers:
Theeeeeeee only thing I am intrested is THE Pusssy. I dont care about old or new city. And I prefer fair skinned PUUUUUUSY which has to be readily available in good clean atmosphre where kitchen pans are not used afterwards for washing your dick like In Lima's Trocadero and Las Cucardes.
Hi Tony USA,
Based on everyone’s feedback, it looks like Cartagena is just the place for you. When are you going? I think you made a really good choice with Colombia. It’s been on my “to-do list” for a very long time now, along with Venezuela. Be sure and let us know which city you pick.
Thanks Ngp477,
Usually on my first trip to any new place, I like to find out some general details about the city and sometimes even do some tourist things while I’m there, if they sound like fun. Make no mistake though; it all takes a backseat when compared to the chicas. Thanks again.
Y & R
Skip Cartagena for pussy. Cali is your best place for lots of cheap *****houses. There everywere in Cali. My favorite is along the Rio Cali. If you go to Cali , hook up / my friend Dayron who lives there...ph # 311 395 5946, By the way he speaks excellent english.
Gary
Hi Every body :
I was looking at phote gallery and girls are not bad at all in Cali.
Personally I dont like long flights and lay overs. I think I might go to Cali on my first trip . CTG will be 2nd just because of flight issue. If Continental would have a flight from Houston to CTG than I must have gone to CTG first because of all the recomendations.
Hey Tony USA ...
Dude go where ya want ... but the first timer to Colombia ... no habla espanol ... Cartagena can't be beat.
I think your original question should have been ...
"Which city in Colombia is easiest to get to from my hometown?"
PS ... you can fly from Cali / Medellin / Bogota directly to Cartagena.
Good luck amigo!
Don't forget that some of the hottest light skinned girls travel to the coast, away from the prying eyes of their family to ply their trade. Not only is there more money in it for them, but many hope to snag the heart of a foreigner, thereby giving superior service if you play them right.
June 27th to July 5th or maybe longer. Any gringos want to show me around or get a drink? I'm paying. My first trip. It would be good to have someone I can trust. I'm 38 by the way. Sure to get plenty of attention I think. Blue eyes and hair ect.
Thanks
Why is not there an option to send you a private message? Do you have email?
Need to ask you about your guide.
Hello fellow *****house mongers,
Those who never been to Cali, or who were to chicken shit to go, this guy name Dayron did everything to make my trip to Cali the best vacation. I speak limited spanish, (hola, cerveza, bano ). Dayron handle all my dealings w/ taxias, buses, dealing w/ beggars, hookers. Just having a Dayron as a wing man to keep my butt safe there made my vacation the best.
Those who are going to Cali give him a call to show you around the best damm *****houses.Dayron did everything to keep my expensive low. so there be a little tip for him. Your looking for best casas for cheap, ask Dayron. (My last posting on Dayron ph# ) 311 3955946. I got dibs on him in late July for 3 weeks.
Gary
Can you give me your email please. Or number.
[QUOTE=Tony USA]Hi Grey Beard :
What is Copa's web site address.[/QUOTE]
????
How lazy do you want to be? Hahahaha.
Try this: [url]http://www.google.com[/url] and type in "copa airlines".
Hi Screwed Up:
I like your foto's very much.
Can hardly wait to see some more on your this Cali trip.
Enjoy.
Tony.
[QUOTE=I Jags]Can you give me your email please. Or number.[/QUOTE]Doesnt respond to my letter. Can you write what info I can help you with about Daryron. Be glad to help you. Please give your ph# I call you.
Gary
Let other newbies read it DIRECTLY from you: that almost nobody in Cali speaks ANY English (except at Hotel Intercontiental and the Marriage Agencies) including at the airport when you try to negotiate a price with a taxi and explain where your hotel is located. Also, while guerillas are not a problem IN THE CITY, there is is almost NOTHING to do in town besides chasing chicas and once you leave town you enter FARC country. While the guerillas stay outside the city, the criminals and drug gangs do NOT!
This is not to say that you cannot have a good time in Cali in reasonable security, but good judgment (and luck!) is essential. Cali is NOT Nuevo Laredo or anything.
I think you will come to regret not choosing Cartagena, despite having to take a connecting flight (Aerorepublica has a nonstop between Cali & Cartagena 4 days per week), but only time will tell. You CAN help educate other newbies as to your experience. Good luck (you'll need it!)
Thanks Surfer for suggestion.
I will for sure put a non biased report after my return.
As far as English goes hardly any of the Chica's from CR,Peru and Thailand spoke any English. But I could always negotiate the deal some how.
As I have said in earlier posts, money is the language of puta's no matter where you are.
I am also thinking about hiring an English speaking guide for couple of hours a day.
I am only traveling for the purpose of hobby and nothing else. CTG is on my top list as soon as any airline start flying from west coast to CTG.
Thanks again.
Surfer : I hope you are not trying to scare me and other first timers to Cali by your comments in this post. [QUOTE=Surfer]Let other newbies read it DIRECTLY from you: that almost nobody in Cali speaks ANY English (except at Hotel Intercontiental and the Marriage Agencies) including at the airport when you try to negotiate a price with a taxi and explain where your hotel is located. Also, while guerillas are not a problem IN THE CITY, there is is almost NOTHING to do in town besides chasing chicas and once you leave town you enter FARC country. While the guerillas stay outside the city, the criminals and drug gangs do NOT!
This is not to say that you cannot have a good time in Cali in reasonable security, but good judgment (and luck!) is essential. Cali is NOT Nuevo Laredo or anything.
I think you will come to regret not choosing Cartagena, despite having to take a connecting flight (Aerorepublica has a nonstop between Cali & Cartagena 4 days per week), but only time will tell. You CAN help educate other newbies as to your experience. Good luck (you'll need it!)[/QUOTE]
Hello LIP : How much Dayron charge for his services? [QUOTE=Lost In Paradise]Hello fellow *****house mongers,
Those who never been to Cali, or who were to chicken shit to go, this guy name Dayron did everything to make my trip to Cali the best vacation. I speak limited spanish, (hola, cerveza, bano ). Dayron handle all my dealings w/ taxias, buses, dealing w/ beggars, hookers. Just having a Dayron as a wing man to keep my butt safe there made my vacation the best.
Those who are going to Cali give him a call to show you around the best damm *****houses.Dayron did everything to keep my expensive low. so there be a little tip for him. Your looking for best casas for cheap, ask Dayron. (My last posting on Dayron ph# ) 311 3955946. I got dibs on him in late July for 3 weeks.
Gary[/QUOTE]
Hello all,
Dayron charge me all day 60,000 pesos plus meals.
Well worth it.
[QUOTE=Surfer]Let other newbies read it DIRECTLY from you: that almost nobody in Cali speaks ANY English (except at Hotel Intercontiental and the Marriage Agencies) including at the airport when you try to negotiate a price with a taxi and explain where your hotel is located. Also, while guerillas are not a problem IN THE CITY, there is is almost NOTHING to do in town besides chasing chicas and once you leave town you enter FARC country. While the guerillas stay outside the city, the criminals and drug gangs do NOT!
This is not to say that you cannot have a good time in Cali in reasonable security, but good judgment (and luck!) is essential. Cali is NOT Nuevo Laredo or anything.
I think you will come to regret not choosing Cartagena, despite having to take a connecting flight (Aerorepublica has a nonstop between Cali & Cartagena 4 days per week), but only time will tell. You CAN help educate other newbies as to your experience. Good luck (you'll need it!)[/QUOTE]
Hi Surfer,
You mentioned something that I've been a little curious about. Seems like I read somewhere that you drive through quite a bit of the countryside and see lots of mountains on the ride to & from the Cali airport. If that's the case, are there many incidents of guerillas/FARC stopping people going to or coming from the airport?
Also, if you were interviewed by Customs upon returning to the US, what would you tell them was the purpose of your trip? That question has been easy for me coming back from the places like Rio and BsAs, but Cali?? Sounds like that one would require some creative thought. How have your experiences been?
Thanks,
Y & R
Are you getting some kind of kickback? You have mentioned him 4 times now? And I asked you for your email to discuss. No reply. Odd.
[QUOTE=Lost In Paradise]Hello all,
Dayron charge me all day 60,000 pesos plus meals.
Well worth it.[/QUOTE]
Just saw your response. I am on edge as I am going soon. Haha. Antsy. Your help will be appreciated.
(502) 345-9974. Call anytime. Soon please! Sorry again. I missed your post.
[QUOTE=Lost In Paradise]Doesnt respond to my letter. Can you write what info I can help you with about Daryron. Be glad to help you. Please give your ph# I call you.
Gary[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Surfer]Cali is NOT Nuevo Laredo or anything. [/QUOTE]31 Americans kidnapped in Nuevo Laredo in less than a year. 17 still unaccounted for.
Colombia gets all the bad press, but Mexico is starting to catch up, and in my opinion is far more dangerous for Americans than Colombia is.
My source:
[url]http://www.amw.com/missing_persons/case.cfm?id=30673[/url]
Just say you think Colombia is a nice place to go on vacation cause you like the people, it's affordable, and you enjoy learning new things like Spanish language or salsa dancing.
Hey Dudes,
The city of Cali rest near some hills, but the airport is located in the valley about 25 minutes from the city. I've been to Cali a couple of times, but never got the impression from the locals that it's a dangerous road. However, I have heard it's dangerous in the hills above Cali.
BTW, what's up with that? It seems whenever I travel to cities in South America the areas in the hills above a given city (flavelas in Rio/Comas in Lima) are always the most dangerous. Is this where all the nonconformists and revolutionists of S.A. reside? I guess a view of the city doesn't put food on the table.
Customs agents usually know what's up when they see a single dude returning from a country like Colombia. They know your not there on a mission from greenpeace. I straight up tell I went there to bang puss, and it usually generates a chuckle. Obviously, this approach works best with the male agents.
Tony USA
I have a good friend who lives in Cali. He specializes in hooking up Americans/Europeans with amateurs/semi's/pro's. He's lived in the city most all his life. He has a shitload of contacts and knows where to and where not to go when in Cali! PM me if you want to get in touch with him. Not sure what he charges. He speaks perfect English. What I especially like about this guy is he doesn't drink. So I can go ahead and get ripped and know he's got my back.
I also have a Calena amiga whose father is a taxi driver. I'm sure she could arrange a pick up to and from the airport. Keep in mind, she's not a pro and he's oblivious to the mongering scene.
Guys, last thing. The TLCWorldwide.com (one of the more successful marriage agencies on the net) is having their annual party in Cali in a couple of weeks at the Hotel InterContinental. Guys, this is a golden opportunity to pick up on some extremely hot amateurs. Just go and hangout in the lobby of the hotel or the bar while this party is happening.
You won't be able to enter the room (it's a $1,000us) where the actual party is happening, but there will be a shitload of chicas milling around the hotel. I went to this party several years ago and there was over 900 calenas and only 90 dudes. I went the following year mill around and avoid the $1,000us fee. First night, I nailed a girl who remembered me from the previous year. Give it a shot if you happen to be in town at the time of the party.
Late,
Judd
I will tell them I went for some nice pussy! What is the difference? And that American women make me physically sick. And that they may just as well be men Now what are they going to say to me? Is it illegal to go there? NO, I don't think so, Who cares what the answer is.
[QUOTE=I Jags]I will tell them I went for some nice pussy! What is the difference? And that American women make me physically sick. And that they may just as well be men Now what are they going to say to me? Is it illegal to go there? NO, I don't think so, Who cares what the answer is.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for enlightening me. You’re a gentleman and a scholar.
[QUOTE=Cachorro]Just say you think Colombia is a nice place to go on vacation cause you like the people, it's affordable, and you enjoy learning new things like Spanish language or salsa dancing.[/QUOTE]
Hi Cachorro,
Thanks for your response, amigo. If that was a rattle snake it would have bit me. I laughed to the top of my lungs when I read your post! I think what you mentioned in your post would be a perfect response. Thanks again for the good advice.
Judd,
I have no doubt that you say that to them, amigo!! Do you also offer to let them see your videos just to eliminate any doubt? LOL!! Thanks and keep up the good work señor!
Y & R
That's funny Y&R!!! Thanks for the laugh! What's the camcorder for, officer? Well you know, just some nature video of the local scenery to remember my trip.
OK, Ole wise one.
[QUOTE=Young & Restless]Thanks for enlightening me. You’re a gentleman and a scholar.[/QUOTE]
And this is the *************.Info board, not the complete works of William Shakespheare.
[QUOTE=Young & Restless]Thanks for enlightening me. You’re a gentleman and a scholar.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=I Jags]And this is the *************.Info board, not the complete works of William Shakespheare.[/QUOTE]
Relax man… I was just busting your balls a little bit. – Peace
Hey Judd,
I'm glad you knew I was joking. Like I’ve told you before your hidden videos are brilliant! Keep up the good work!
What do you guys think of calivip.com and colombiansweethearts.com
Save your money. Have my friend Dayron in Cali put ad in paper for gringo looking for companion and romance. The phone will be ringing off the hook.
Tony, hows your spanish? Leave your email. on it. Dayron speaks english so he can handle your translating.
Gary
Here's some tips from my Cali visit.
There are lots of casas, many cheap ones for around 20k to 40k. One cluster is on Avenida 2 and 2 bis. Doctor Amor was one that I tried, lots of worn out looking puta types. But just as I was walking out, one cutie was walking in, so I sessioned with her. 35k for 1 hour, excellent session.
I looked at lots of other casas but never managed to do as well. It is really hard in these places to find clean, pretty girls with a good attitude.
Upscale places are Flores Frescas and El Escocés. FF has nice girls but a little bit expensive. Escocés had about 12 girls but too dark to see very well.
For motels, the Paraiso Romano is hard to beat. Get the presidential suite, it's a big pad with jacuzzi, private outdoor courtyard with steam room, plus hi-fi, TV, cool mirror on the ceiling above the bed. 35K for 3 hours, included in this price is a rubber, plus a couple of drinks in the bar fridge. Outstanding value. This place is about 20 minutes away from the centre of town.
There are some chic restaurants along Avenue 8N around calle 14 and up.
Cali zoo is a great way to spend a day, especially with a nice girl.
Check out the posts in this thread by ******* for some ideas of non-pro night spots. I tried one or two and they were really worth it.
For shopping malls, Chipe Chape is very close to the centre, or you can try Unicentro which is right near the university.
Hello all,
Jag inform me when he call Dayron you have to dial o11 then 57 311 395 5946.., Dayron lively hood in Cali is selling nicknacks on buses and helping fellow mongers to cathouses. I'm trying so much helping him w/ people going to Cali, (no commision for me as Jag stated). It just Dayron was the best guide in all my travels tru out the world. Please if in Cali give him a buzz.
Thanks,
Gary
Hi guys,
I will be in Cali the week of June 20th (working by day and playing by nite) and then Valencia Venezuela June 27-30th. I would appreciate any help you fellow mongers can provide for locating the hidden talents of these two cities. I have been to Cali several times before an have visited Flores Frescas, and some of the casas. However I found that in addition to the high price the talent really was not exceptional (with one exception being a chica that I took out of FF one nite about 1 yr ago. This girl was incredible in the sack and open to anything that I desired.) Anyone got any advice on where to look for the best p4p action in Cali. I am fluent in spanish however will not have much time to work the field so the non-pro scene (no matter how good it is) really is not an option. I have read about the exploits of Master Monger and others in this city, but quite frankly I have found it to be somewhat lacking when compared to Bogota, and Cartagena. If anyone can point me in the right direction I would appreicate it.
Also, if anyone has any good information on Valencia please share it as well...it has been approx 12 months since I was there and quite frankly it was somewhat poor as far as p4p action. I found Caracas about the same with the exception of Angelus and one other case whose name escapes me. Unfortunately I found angelus to be a bit pricy and thus not a good option. Also the web chicas (sexycaracas.com) are VERY pricy as they are in Cali. Not really an option on my budet.
Any help anyone can provide on these two locations is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Lusty
[QUOTE=Lost In Paradise]Hello all,
Jag inform me when he call Dayron you have to dial o11 then 57 311 395 5946.., Dayron lively hood in Cali is selling nicknacks on buses and helping fellow mongers to cathouses. I'm trying so much helping him w/ people going to Cali, (no commision for me as Jag stated). It just Dayron was the best guide in all my travels tru out the world. Please if in Cali give him a buzz.
Thanks,
Gary[/QUOTE]Thanks for the correction.
I thought Cali had some of the best looking women in the world?
My suggestion for small tip, buy a 20 $ walkman w/ fm radio at walmart for good service render. Hanging w/ Dayron in Cali you pay local prices not gringo prices. Hell, do everything to keep your expenses low, so theres a small tip or gift.
LIP,
Thanks for the tip.
Continental will start flying to Cali from Houston on July 15 and I am planing around that time.
Dayron call me today saying his girlfriend or ex wife lives there? She has a small stereo wants deliver to him. I can get you her ph # she can deliver to your house.
Gary
[QUOTE=Lost In Paradise]Dayron call me today saying his girlfriend or ex wife lives there? She has a small stereo wants deliver to him. I can get you her ph # she can deliver to your house.
Gary[/QUOTE] No Gary I dont live in Houston and also I don't like to carry things for people I dont know.
Who here has experience in both cities?
I'm planning a trip August 6-26. Where to go.
Feel free to comment on other cities and countries
Priorities in order.
1 Non prostitutes treat you like you are a movie star.
2 Women are sexy and beautiful
3 Sex for cheap or free.
2 Warm weather, not too much rain
3 Good Vegetables (I'm vegetarian)
4 Nice down to earth people, the type that would invite you for coffee
5 Cool Nature and natural beauty and archetecture
[QUOTE=Digital Curry]Who here has experience in both cities?
I'm planning a trip August 6-26. Where to go.
Feel free to comment on other cities and countries
Priorities in order.
1 Non prostitutes treat you like you are a movie star.
2 Women are sexy and beautiful.
3 Sex for cheap or free.
2 Warm weather, not too much rain
3 Good Vegetables (I'm vegetarian)
4 Nice down to earth people, the type that would invite you for coffee
5 Cool Nature and natural beauty and archetecture[/QUOTE]Women are not pretty at all in Lima so dont waste your time and money .
[QUOTE=Tony USA]What do you guys think of calivip.com and colombiansweethearts.com[/QUOTE]I think it is rather "desperate" to involve yourself into agencies promoting dates and marriages.
Why pay 50 US $ for a package of 10 - 15 email adresses?
When we have WSG forum and many other ways to find someone over the internet?
Take your time and you will find what you are looking for. Dont let people like dating sites make money on your and/or the girls' back. It is so "degrading".
Who here has experience in both cities?
I'm planning a trip August 6-26. Where to go.
Feel free to comment on other cities and countries
Priorities in order.
1 Non prostitutes treat you like you are a movie star.
Are you a movie star? If you are not why would they? And ifthey did, how would they treat a movie star?
2 Women are sexy and beautiful
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
3 Sex for cheap or free.
Sex may be cheap in some places if you are from USA, Canada or Western Europe. But it is not free (see no. 1 above)
2 Warm weather, not too much rain
Most places in the world have this at some time of the year.
3 Good Vegetables (I'm vegetarian)
4 Nice down to earth people, the type that would invite you for coffee
See no. 1
5 Cool Nature and natural beauty and archetecture
See no. 2, plus many places have these as well.
Digital Curry,
There are some gems to be found in Lima. But IMHO Cali is a far better place to monger. However, I like the food better in Lima. Which is more improtant?
With that much time you may want to consider Thailand. It is a long flight, but well worth it. And the food is the best.
All three place are very inexpensive. You'll have a great time in any of them.
Suerte,
Sky Dog
Does Cali have these?
I like Lima and will go back, Concur, that food in Lima is better, also there's more stuff to do outside of Mongering in lima. The pro scene in Cali is more developed(ie, more casa, massage plc, etc.,) For a small(smaller city vs BOG), Cali has TONS of casa, it seem like one on every corner. Quality/Service in general was OK, but like stalin said, "there's a certain QUALITY to QUANTITY". Just ask ANY taxi drivers they will gladly show you from one casa to the next. If you know decent spanish, you'll have no problems picking no pros.
Problem w/ Cali is finding things to do OUTSIDE of Mongering, especially on the weekdays. If you have a GF then that's not problem, otherwise it's get boring, other than mongering and hitting the casinos.
I will be in Cali July 1-5.
Any body want to get together let me know.
Hello my friends,
Those who are heading to Cali for pussy.. My man Dayron in Cali is the is person to show you around . Mark stated in letter . He so happy w/ Dayron sevice that he's everything I mention in previous post is all true. Dayron handle every thingf or you. taxias, meals brothels, buses. You pay local prices on everything there. The money he saves you is extra tip for him. My exper. w/ daryon last trip I left by mistake 150,000 pesos on cafe table. 30 mins latter Dayron returned w/ all my money from cafe.. My advice to you if you used Dayron bring large condoms. I let Daryon ask taxias were the action is. If you get tired of Cali theres lots of cities Dayron can take you not far from Cali were nice girls, not many gringos go. I'm book w/ Dayron on July 14. 8days. Find someone else.
Gary
If he is leading gringo sex tourists to "small cities outside Cali where no gringos go", SOMEBODY in the group better be well armed. What you need is less of a guide and more of a guard (as in bodyguard), ESPECIALLY if you leave the city. Those who speak Spanish can ask the taxi drivers themselves where the chicas are and save on guide fees. But if Dayron does pack heat (like most men in Cali), then having him along for protection MIGHT justify the cost.
[QUOTE=Tony USA]Women are not pretty at all in Lima so dont waste your time and money.[/QUOTE]I second that! Peru chicas cannot compete with Colombian chicas.
There are people who never been to Cali who dont speak one word of spanish, who need guidence in Cali, who knows the City, country like daryon, who speaks perfect english. He is well worth 60,000 pesos plus meals to show them fun time arond Cali and other cities.
who don't speak one word of Spanish do not belong in Cali. Do you have a death wish, LIP?
Try this then, those who spanish is of few words need some1 who knows his country that can show you around. Myself if i spoke spanish fluently i still want some1 to hook up w/ there. Myself i have no security issues in Cali w/ darryon as my wingman. He"s the best, you can quote me on that as main man in Cali.. Your loss not using Daryon.
Well there's no doubt that if you've never been to Cali, Medellin, or whatever city really ... it's nice to have someone there to show you the ropes of the place.
The less spanish you speak and the less "trave savy" you are, makes that person even more valuable.
Some guys only take trips once a year or less often than that ... why waste time trying to figure things out on your own ... learn from someone ... for both chica info and security info ... where to go / not to go , etc.
Whether this is with Lost in Paradise's guide Dayron or another trusted contact ... that's just a matter of preference.
Suerte ....
[QUOTE=I Jags]June 27th to July 5th or maybe longer. Any gringos want to show me around or get a drink? I'm paying. My first trip. It would be good to have someone I can trust. I'm 38 by the way. Sure to get plenty of attention I think. Blue eyes and hair ect.
Thanks[/QUOTE]How was your trip? I am thinking about Columbia for a week. Don't know much about the country or the language. How was your experience? Recommendations? Etc?
M&M
Just curious Surfer. Where do you get your imfo on men carrying guns. I was there 23 days and am certain "most men" do not carry guns. If you saw this, tell me where please. Regarding the murdering of a gringo traveling outside Cali.
Per 1000
Murder rate is 0.63 in Colombia
.04 in the USA
Both under 1 per 1000.
Yes, Colombia is much higher percentage but still low probability. I did travel 4 hours to one of those cities with Dayron. Not one issue at anytime in Colombia. I was very happy with Dayron. It was well worth my money I spent. I will post on this again soon.
Milmonger, depends what you are looking for. Just pros? How much to spend? GIve me some guidelines.It felt like I was there a year..
I lived in Cali for more than 2 years now, and trust me, a whole lot of people have guns here. True, they may need to walk to the car to get it (so that when they are searched it is not found), but I would say that more than half of men my age are armed in a certain way. It's a bit concerning since when you're in rage, if you have a Nuke in your hands, you'll Nuke the other guy. If you only have your fists, then there only so much damage that can be done... Given the fact that a lot of people have guns, when they are enraged, a lot of killings happen.
As far a your other comment goes in regards to the probability of getting murdered, that's not how you should see this. Put it this way, I can tell you to have an attitude, a location, a way that you're dressed in certain places where you'll have 75% chances of getting whacked.
Beware, Cali is not for everyone, the countryside even less.
A friend of mine, that happens to be pretty hot (photo attached to this message) wants to go to the Marc Anthony's concert on July 29th. She, like a lot of other Colombian friends, is full of great qualities but is also dirt poor.
All that to say that if you're in Cali on July 29th, and feel like you could go and relax by listening to a concert at Cali's stadium, private message me and we can see if we can arrange a meeting between you both. She's obviously expect the ticket to be paid by you, in exchange for a genuine good attitude and gratitude in company of Cali's finest (no sex involved, just a random act of generosity seeked).
I've been to the Luis Miguel concert with her about 8 months ago, and I had nothing else but a great time. Right now, I can't do that for her since I am involved with a girl that I like a lot and do not want to make things more complicated.
Antifreeze
Where is the location Antifreeze?
The comment is no thow I see it. It is a fact. That is the murder rate. Period. Look at it anyway you want. Try Detroit late at night alone dressed well. In my opinion way more dangerous. GiIve me the spot in Cali more dangerous.
[QUOTE=Antifreeze]I lived in Cali for more than 2 years now, and trust me, a whole lot of people have guns here. True, they may need to walk to the car to get it (so that when they are searched it is not found), but I would say that more than half of men my age are armed in a certain way. It's a bit concerning since when you're in rage, if you have a Nuke in your hands, you'll Nuke the other guy. If you only have your fists, then there only so much damage that can be done... Given the fact that a lot of people have guns, when they are enraged, a lot of killings happen.
As far a your other comment goes in regards to the probability of getting murdered, that's not how you should see this. Put it this way, I can tell you to have an attitude, a location, a way that you're dressed in certain places where you'll have 75% chances of getting whacked.
Beware, Cali is not for everyone, the countryside even less.[/QUOTE]
I know Marc Anthony was the 2 weeks ago. Is he coming back?
Curious why you live in such a dangerous place Anti..
[QUOTE=Antifreeze]A friend of mine, that happens to be pretty hot (photo attached to this message) wants to go to the Marc Anthony's concert on July 29th. She, like a lot of other Colombian friends, is full of great qualities but is also dirt poor.
All that to say that if you're in Cali on July 29th, and feel like you could go and relax by listening to a concert at Cali's stadium, private message me and we can see if we can arrange a meeting between you both. She's obviously expect the ticket to be paid by you, in exchange for a genuine good attitude and gratitude in company of Cali's finest (no sex involved, just a random act of generosity seeked).
I've been to the Luis Miguel concert with her about 8 months ago, and I had nothing else but a great time. Right now, I can't do that for her since I am involved with a girl that I like a lot and do not want to make things more complicated.
Antifreeze[/QUOTE]
Hey freeze,
Long time no see.
I won't be in cali for the concert, but I wouldn't mind meeting your friend, would she like me?
I will return in Sept.
Didn't see you on sexta when I was there a week ago, did you move? You were talking about Perada or some such place.
Hope alll is well,
D
I Jags,
I respect all opinions when they are communicated in a respectful manner. You are respectful in the way you express yours, and I truly appreciate that. But, I still disagree. Cali is way more dangerous than any other place in the US. The places you state in Detroit that may be more dangerous, YOU KNOW THEM, that's what makes them less dangerous to you and 95% of all other americans. You can fall into a trap here in a second. If someone shoots you in broad daylight with 20 witnesses, there still won't be any witness to report it to the police (since their police report is actually also their death certificate), and the killer would walk free to create more damage. This is actually the problem #1 in Colombia (inpunity). There's not significantly less dangerous people here in Colombia than in most countries, but they just create more damage before they are eventually stopped.
Freeze
Never in my life had I seen a gruesome site like that (I could have never been a cop, paramedic or cop), a mangled corpse just laying there at the side of the road. My gfirl was quite shook upo and couldn't sleep. Not the kind of thing I found erotic either, unlike certain masters of literaure that found some sensual turn on from morbidity. But I digress. This was not on the Sexta, but it was not in Mojica or Agua Blanca (the most hard core barrios) either.
American cities have dangerous districts, but how many of you guys go to crack row in those places? Jags, I know English is not your primary language and I respect you fopr partricipating in a foreign tongue. That sais, your logic is lacking. You do not SEE the guns because they are tucked in wastebelts and shoulder holsters. That does NOT mean they are not there.
Everybody has their own opinions on just how dangerous it is. I know my friends that live there are both worried and cautios, but they know no other way. As I have said many timesw, each must decide his own risk tolerance for himself. But being aware of what is going on, meaning NOT being drunk while walking around and understanding what people are saying iaround/about you is CRITICAL to minimizing the risk to your personal safety you take every time you leave the hotel in Cali.
Quality at the casas was WAY down, particularly Kaliente, and Frescas prices are now 20 entrada, 130ST onsite, 60 takeout (plus the girls will want at least 150K).
Too short a trip, and LOTS of flying on PACKED aircraft (Summer SUCKS for travel IMHO), but I get Colombia withdrawl symptoms without my monthly (or bimonthly) fix.
Finally, thanks to FREZE for tricking me into meeting his longtime friend and WSGer K-Dog who turned out to be quite a nice guy despite being a Republican. We flew back together and chatted quite a bit (but not about politics-WolfyBaby is still the ONLY rightwinger with whom I can talk politics with without getting hot under the collar).
California to Cali via Boston is not the suggested route, but it IS good for elite status miles (:
Hi,
I'm in Cali right now and let me tell everyone that it is pretty safe. I live in windsor plaza no problems bringing up girls and its close to la sexta. I recomend you to live close to la sexta bc there are all the discos. Donna recomend you going to prostitutes bc you ll have it easier and better with normal girls. donna worry about your looks or age you can have almost what you want. Don't listen to all this people trying to scare you saying that its so dangerous its like in any city if your careless it can happen. I'm from Madrid and people are talking about crime and stuff but as long as your not stupid as some people you see here in Colombia and other places your safe. so come to cali and I'm leaving for Medellin tomorrow. I've heard they have the best girls and I'll report on it. [blue][Report edited by Admin][/blue]
Good luck.
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Hey Surfer ... good post ...
I can remember being scared to death twice in the US ... once getting lost in the "bad" part of Chicago ... and the other time in a "bad" area of Miami ... both at night.
But ... nothing campares to seeing a kid ... probably in his early twenties, being executed in Medellin ... right outside my girlfriend's family casa in Medellin a couple years ago.
Last week in Medellin I was invited to another chica's casa for dinner ... her mother showed me fotos of her 2 boys ... who were 17 and 19 years old ... they were both in coffins ... killed seperately, a year apart, in the barrio.
She said that her children are on loan from God for only a short time.
I realize I'm writing about Medellin, however, Colombia is Colombia ...
Watch yourself ... and number one rule ... at least for me ... make as many friends as possible ... NEVER make enemies.
Suerte!
Everytime people bring up safety issue, someone is always saying how COL (Cali) is not as dangerous as (LA, NYC, London, Detriot, etc.). Most of the time it's people that are tourist passing thru(most of us are).
But if you talk with local expat (even some local Col), you get a totally different view. I've talked w/ a gringo expat living in Cali for 5 Yrs now, he tells little precaution he has to constantly do:
1) Have taxi drop him off at a short block from his place, so no one knows exactly where he lives. (we tourist don't have this problem because we stay short term or in hotels)
2) Not telling everyone where he lives, only people that need to know. Again tourist do not have this problem.
3) Never tells chicas that he just met where he lives, he takes them to "love" motel not back to his place. Unless they get into a relationship.
4) NOT [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off local chicas when he breaks up with them because they may have friends or relative that could "do something" to him afterward.
(Ricker mention never make enemies in COL, where life even gringos can be cheap. A Gringo Professor was murder in Cali last month over $2200 USD, the guy has been living in CALI for over 20 years, has wife and kids, respected in the community)
5) He has a car and scooter, asked him why said the Scooter is safer because in a pinch(at traffic) he can zoom away via sidewalk.
6) He owns a distribution business, but doesn't go to every sales call, he lets his COL sales rep do that. Because he doesn't want anyone to know that he is the owner.
For most part Tourist, we only stay in-country for short time, couple week or month at the most. We don't have regular schedule. But to live and work in Cali (COL) is a whole different thing. I would listen to advice of guys like antifreeze or other expat LIVING there regarding safety. Heck even my amigas that live in CALI or COL tell me I have to be careful of who I talk to or trust.
To the good side of CALI (COL). Every expat I've met said it is great. Lots of chicas(non-pro) to bang. As ANtifreeze once said, "I've have 1 wife, 2 kids, 2 horse, and 5 girlfriends! LOL!) or as another expat in Bogota told me,"if you are a foreigner living in COL, you have to beat off the chicas with a stick!". LOL!
I'd like to report what I understand is a fairly new casa in Cali. I liked it enough to return several times. Each time I found a girl I liked and a couple of them were willing to come to my apt. on other occasions.
There are many aspects of this casa that I like. The girls are young and of all different sizes.
This place, above others I've visited, is very very clean, light and airy. It is cheap too.
It's not for homophobic though, it is run by gay guys and the girls like that. Maybe they don't have to "do" the boss, I dunno, but it makes for a "happy" place. I don't mind the gays, where I live, they run the town, I'm accustom to them.
The actually have two casas on the same street separated by another casa. They are located on along the Cali river.
The addresses are:
Ave. 2a,, Norte No. 23n-37 & 23N-43
Tele. 661-6759
Prices are 35k pesos for half hour, 50k for an hour.
I liked Ana, a skinny little thing, looks middle eastern and came to my apt. in the mornings (8 & 9 am) before going to work in this casa. She charged me 80k for a house call.
Enjoy.
I am from Kentucky Surfer. Not sure about the non-English comment. Maybe I had some typos. As you do also.
Everyone dies. It's how you live that counts. Sure it's more dangerous. Decide why our going and if it's worth it.
Obviously you and Anti have made the decision it is worth it because you are there all the time.
I think everyone knows Colombia can be dangerous. Not really a debate here. I posted the actual numbers for murders. I will also be willing to bet gun ownership is higher in the states. Much higher.
I was not happy with the looks of the girls on the sexta however. Dead most nights. Even some weekend nights now. The hot women are going to more upscale clubs there.
here's a quick note in regards to age here.
if you're going to do a girl that is below 18, not only are you walking on thin ice in regards to legality, but you are dead wrong in regards to the morality. if you're going to post on this forum about coming to colombia to date **** girls, then i'd appreciate for the administration of this site to take you out, and i'd better never meet you. i am not saying that grobo did such a thing, but it's fairly close. a child is a child (even though the laws may be different in some countries). let them finish school and find their way towards prostitution if they have to, but do not show them the way for your own sick pathelogical impulses. if you have such feelings, go and get fixed, you'll find plenty of help. the reason that i have a problem with cali is that too many of these gringos come down here now. get a mature woman, not a helpless child.
[blue]hi antifreeze,
i couldn't agree more.
thanks,
jackson[/blue]
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i, m not speaking about dating **** women. i'm speaking about cultural differences. in colombia a girl becomes old when she reaches 20. i know a lot of girls non pro that are dating guys over 30 and its normal here. it might be illega to date them like selling drugs here. but i know a lot of people here who are doing time but are free partying every night. the only thing is that they cannot leave cali. a good looking colombian woman that reaches 25 if she isnt a superbabe wont be as attractive to colombian men. who ever you want to date is upo to anyone. in no moment have i spoken about profesional girls bc there is no need for it. you can date these girls with the parents permission. anyone who goes to colombia and has to go to working girls must have a big problem socializing with people. antifreeze and others i donna know how well you know other countries but you must accept other peoples culture even if it goes against your moral believes. i'm not promoting anything just telling how things really are its up to every individual to do what they want.
i think every guy who has been to colombia and is not a sucker wont bring his moral values here bc if so is the case what the hell are you coming to colombia at the first place. and telling me that a 14 year old girl is like a european or us girl your dead wrong they might be that in age but they are much more mature. and ask around colombian men who they are married to most that i know have wifes no more than 15 in some cases i know a politician here in cali who has a wife that is 16. well have to go now.
Grobo,
Girls below the age of 18 do not exist. You can't look at them, compare them, nothing... They are not on the market for you to even look at. Once again, in your last post, I don't know if you're right (and don't care), since you're talking about something that does not exist (women below 18). They are children, there is no point comparing them to US or European children.
Antifreeze
[quote=grobo]anyone who goes to colombia and has to go to working girls must have a big problem socializing with people.
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how did you know me so well? i am not gay, so i do not want to socialize with men. i do not like beached whales, so i do not socialize with american women...disgusting!
so that is the problem and reason i go to colombia.
btw it is ok to date the young ****d girls, just not to have sex with them.
My friend (the one with the picture in a previous post) is still avaialable to go to the Marc Anthony´s concert. The other person that said would go with her had some other obligations that prevented him to come to Cali that day.
So, anyone decent that will be in Cali on July 29th that wants to be at the concert in good company, PM me.
Freeze
Grobo, i dont know where you got your information but i have not encountered any adult males married to a 15 year old child. My G/F has 4 brothers who are all married. None of them has a wife that is more than 5 years younger than they are. My g/f has a fifteen year old daughter and she is just like American teenagers. She is only in the 9th grade for Christs sake. For what i saw on my trips, it is not a cultural thing for adult men to have relationships with young girls. Shame on you for bringing the topic up on this forum.
I'm sorry to tell you , I've been travelling to Colombia for 8 years now. I speak from experience. In Colombia the man is suppose to have the right to have 7 1/2 women where the 1/2 is the wife. Having young women is the rule. I most also add that older women have younger men in general. I'm not taking any moral standpoint on it, I'm just telling how things are. If you think is awfull or whatever, what can I do about it? I thought that this site was to give information and not to criticise what other people write. I'm not saying that you have to do like Colombians, but I tell you so you know how things work. And if your reference is going to be your GF that has a 15 year old daughter, I apologise, but she is over the hill to know anything about the subject.
Grobo, i lived in Little Havana in Miami for some time. I had my first latina G/F, a Peruivan in 1979. I have traveled all over Central America. In Costa Rica men were being jailed for having sex with young girls. I have not never encounterd a latino with a wife as young as 15 or 16 years old. I know a lot of latino men have wifes and also girlfriends, but they are not 16 years old.One of my g/f sisters caught her husband with another latina and now he is sleeping on his mothers sofa. Remember Lorena Bobbitt.
Before I start I want to make it perfectly clear that I’m firmly against sex with girls under 18. My personal limit is set even higher. I won’t have sex with girls under 20, but that’s the standard I set myself.
However, it is too simple to make the fact that you know no adult males who have a wife under 16 a universal truth (what I can’t see can’t be, the earth is flat, etc).
The sad reality in Colombia is that one out of every ten adolescents has had sexual relations between the ages of 13 and 14 years. Four out of every ten adolescents have had sexual relations between the ages of 15 and 17 years. Seven out of ten have had sexual relations by the time they reach the age of 18 (International Encyclopaedia of Sexuality) and it’s common in some regions (i.a. La Guajira) for adult men to marry minors.
latina women have temper. and thats the price you have to pay. but i still say that women marry young or start having relationship at a vey young age. in my belief the people who get caught dating **** women are the ones who pay for their services in other words **** prostitutes. but to my knowledge i donna have a friend in colombia who doesn't have a relatioship with young girls.
Well here in Peru, all the Govt. and NGO surveys show that most 15 year olds are sexually active. Whether it be with boyfriends from the barrio, or some older guys, that's the way it is in many parts of Latin America. No one is recommending that mongers come down and try to hook up with 15 year olds. However one must remember that the increasingly conservative United States moral code is neither adhered to, nor respected in much of the world. We Americans have the bad habit of trying to tell everyone else how to live their lives. The majority of girls who work here in Peru are independent contractors, no pimps...no white slave trade, just trying to make some extra bucks. No mongers are ruining the girls lives forcing them into lives of decadent prostitution. They would much rather make good money with some ignorant guy from the U.S. who pays way over market value, than get it on with some local for peanuts. That said, it is against the law to have sex with anyone under 18. I imagine that no Peruvian has ever been jailed for having consensual sex with a 16 year old. (not enough room in the prisons)...but the cops would probably love to get their hands on some gringo caught in the act with a minor.
However, good morals is most certainly one of the reasons that made the US the strongest country on Earth since the Roman Empire. It will be the same reason that in the next 50 years it will end up like the Roman Empire. In my opinion.
Had a great 22 days in Cali this month.
i think we all agree that there has to be some age of consent for having relationships with younger girls. we have all saw instances of sexual predators praying on **** girls. i was just relaying my own observations. i have spent most of my time in the larger cities of colombia.
The age of consent in Colombia is 14.
Many States in the US have ages under 18, Colorado is 15. New York is 17. Indiana is 16. I do not have a complete listing of all States.
There are some Federal laws that may make it illegal for a US citizen to have sex with anyone under 18 outside of their home State. Thus if you live in Colorado, you could have sex with a 15-year-old IN COLORADO, but not in any other State or other country.
Frankly, I prefer 20 and up-more experience.
some people think that because a person is able to have sex, that makes them an adult. it's not because you can perform an act that normally only adult people practice, that you become one of them. the hell, i sometimes act like a child, and that doesn't make me a child. an **** person (below 18 by international standards) may have a body that looks like the one of an adult, may from time to time perform acts that adults perform, but that does not make them an adult.
my girlfriend is 24 years old. she is a wonderful being and is a full grown woman that i appreciate very much. that being said, even at that age, i sometimes feel that she is below 18. women in colombia, in many cases, leave their father - when they are fortunate enough to have one - just to switch to their boyfriend or husband, but the relationship is pretty much the same. they are looking for directions, they are looking for authority and a framework that will allow them to have an almost normal life. once they have that, they will full-around to push the limits as they'd do with their own father, which should result in punishment like a father would impose on them when caught. when you get that, you know how to deal with a latina, and they will be thankful for your patience and flurish to become a full grown woman one day. below 18, the hardware is not there for that to happen before many years. at a later age, you may be fortunate enough to live through it and see it happening in your lifetime, but you'll still need an emotional investment.
bottom line, if you like girls below 18, then something's off in your perception of who they are, and you need to be fixed quickly because you are dangerous. there is plenty of help available. not using that help is your shame.
freeze
you say "good morals" are the reason the US has been the strongest empire since Rome? To say I am skeptical of ANY causal link between the two is an understatement, but I should ask you to clarify what you mean by "good morals" before responding further. MANY countries use the US as an example of a country LACKING "good morals" so I am curious what YOU meant by the term.
Also, "morality and legality" are NOT coterminous (read: they do not encompass the same set of behaviors). I am staying out of the "morality" issue, as it means different things to different people, but from a LEGALITY standpoint, MANY countries (dare I say most) have an age of consent below 18. In terms of Colombia, while there are websites claiming it is 14 there are also regulations I have seen indicating that it is NOW 18 (surely due to pressure from the US). For example, there is a rule that EVERY hotel is SUPPOSED to affix a sticker to registration forms stating that sex with under 18 is illegal, but the omnly such sticker I have EVER see was when I asked to see one (and the hotel clerk picked one out of the bottom of a drawer). Another example of the amorphousness of Colombian law regards the possession of small amounts of marijuana: While I have read that this is TECHNICALLY legal (though Uribe wants to recriminilize it -again dure to US pressure), like in many European countries, I have also been told that police may try to ask bribes not to report it etc. If you are rich/powerful, it is probably fine but if you are poor/powerless . . . .
Well ... I usually try to stay out of these debates ... but in this case, I'll have to add my 2 cents worth ...
As far as maturity goes ... absolutely, without question, the latina, Colombiana, Venezolana, Salvadorania, etc ... matures much faster than the gringa ... mentally and socially speaking.
I met 2 chicas in the mall today (in Miami) visiting from Colombia ... one had a bag that said ... "te quiero Colombia" ... so I approached them and we talked about Colombia ... absolutely beautiful girls ... both physically and mentally speaking ... very nice ... I was amazed when they told me they were 15 and 16 years old.
This is just an example ... I could never talk with gringa teen-agers like that.
The culture difference between the west (US / Europe) and South America is so different ... this is OBVIOUS.
A couple with an age difference of 20 years, for example, is easily accepted in South America ... people won't look twice ... in the western world, trust me, people not only look twice but some busy-bodies like to groan about it ...
the "social police" to the rescue they believe.
Sexual relations with a chica under 18 ... no matter what country ... is another matter. That is certainly a NO-NO ... at least for me.
My opinion is this ... just because someone reaches the age of 18 ... they don't automatically become ready for a sexual relationship ... and just because someone is under that age, doesn't mean they are not ready ... BUT ... there has to be an age set for general legality and morality and 18 seems to be the universal number ... the number I personally abide by and my friends too.
My girlfriend in Colombia is 20 years old ... the oldest of 3 sisters ... from a nice, middle class family. Beautiful person ... unbelievable sometimes how much more wise and mature in many ways she is than I am ... I'm a lucky dude for sure.
Really the bottom line is ... enjoy life ... enjoy Colombia ... South America ... where ever ... but don't hurt anyone ... leave the minors alone ... there are plenty of 18+ years chicas.
Suerte!
Sorry to add my 2 centavos, Basically I would have to agree with both Surfer and Ricker, with one caveat.
Although the age of consent rules may vary from country to country or even province to province they usually have one thing in common.
If the girl is under the age of 18, then the male can only be 4-5 years older.
Since this does not apply to most of us old mongers here, I would strongly advise that we use 18 at a minimum the world over.
My wife is 24 and has two twin sisters 17. They are beautiful/virgins but are no where near ready to have a sexual relationship due to there emotional imaturity. My wife on the other hand was much more mature at the same age.
As far as relationships with women 20-30 years younger, Here in Lima it is the norm for gringos. I am 27 years older then my wife and it is only the tourists that stare at us.
Also, on the subject of cheating. You can be damn sure a latina who did not marry for money will never put up with it. If she catches your Gringo ass there will be a line Latino men outside your bedroom door when you get home.
Just MHO,
LB
[QUOTE=Pussy Seeker II]Is it JUST me or you sound just like Nibu?[/QUOTE]
Funny you should mention it! I was going to post in his area saying that you guy's should stop bashing him. I personally have never met the dude. Any guy who has been to Lima will tell you that they hate his jumbled and confusing posts, But he knows more about Peru than anyone else. The reason jackson gave him his own forum was so guys like you did not have to read his reports.
I find it interesting that you bring up his name, It is almost like you are pseudonym for one of those columbian touts?
PAZ
LB
Ok i will give it another try, as my previous post in this subject has been deleted. (probably reported, which is pathetic as a matter of speaking). Welcome to the world of free opinion. Anyway.
I fully agree there are limits to having physical contact with specific ages. Although I read some high dude in Colombia seems to be married with a girl/woman of 16. I presume she is not a "comon" case, and certainly in a mental mature stage of life to have and keep such a commitment. We as western men are used to see this as a sick/undesirable behaviour. In Colombia it seems normal like I understood out of Ricker's post. Well to be honest I would not take myself in such a commitment. On the other hand I believe some people can and are willing to do so. Why not respect their decissions and not just look black and white when making statements and critics on others people beliefs and principles. It is in a way something that has grown out of our western world by centuries. It was different before. Yes gentlemen, look at your historybooks. It was very common in high society to marry girls of age 14, 200/300 years ago. And it still is today in some parts of the world. Adapt and survive to the place you live. Accept the facts of life in another country.
I am looking for a 2bdrm apt in Cali for the month of August 8/10-8/31. I would appreciate any help.
"Adapt and survive to the place you live. Accept the facts of life in another country."
Would you eat your girlfriend if you landed in a cannibal country? Because, by following your thread of thoughts, I'd be scared for her if you'd ever landed there with her.
There is such a thing as claiming moral grounds and having enough conviction for one culture (or individual) to say to another: "you're wrong". But, I guess to do that you need just enough balls and vision. This topic has nothing to do with dressing the same way as people in the country you're visiting, it touches who you are. They have to accept you as a guest as much as you have to accept them as a host and both have to respect each other.
Freeze
Are there any good strip clubs to hang out in in Cali? Or for that matter in Colombia in general. I read a lot about casas, and bar scenes here not strip clubs.
Thanks
DD Phil,
From what I know in Cali, it's pretty shitty! There are 2 of them.
The first one is pretty low class. About only Colombians go there, and women are not that good looking (although they are dirt cheap). The bar name is called (La 20) - pronounced "la veinte". It's downtown and has some rooms available for pretty cheap.
The second one, is pretty popular. But make sure to bring your wallet as you'll need it. Flores Frescas. Dig for the address on this board, and you'll find it. Prices are pretty much like in the US, but women are of top quality (and numerous).
You may also go to a place called "Pharaon" on the rio (Avenida 2 Norte). It's not a strip club per say, but there is some ambiance.
Freeze
i recommend pharaon and the place next door for strip club. if you like a girl you take her upstairs. they have afternoon rates of about 35,000 pesos for an hour. more at night. takeout is not favored but is possible. there is a nice hamburger stand in between the two clubs.
they are located along the cali river, near the apartment hotel del rio. about 1 mile from chipichapee mall
dr. love *****house is about a block away also along the river. alot of tatood girls and chubbies, but usually 1 or 2 that are good.
There are a couple others that have occasional shows, hell even Flores Frescas only has shows twice a night so cannot be called a real "strip club". I would LOVE to open a real strip club in Cali, but am scared shitless that it might tred on somebody's else's perceived "turf". Medellin is SOMEWHAT better, as is Bogota, but IMHO Colombia is NOT a good country for strip clubs.
this morning's commute was a bit unusual (to say the least).
yesterday was rainy, so there were some isolated ponds of water. motorcyclist on the side of one... a car passes by (old lady) and the motorcyclist gets a little wet. not too much, just a little.
on the next red light, he catches up to her and start arguing. then he picks his gun from his belt (hidden back below his safety vest), and shoots 2 times in the air. needless to say that the old lady filled her [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131][CodeWord131][/url] and she just went through the red light.
another good demonstration that guns are pretty much everywhere.
this guy was an idiot to even had taken it out. why would you have a motorcycle if you can't be a little exposed to the elements. then why risking your life over a little water. anyhow, idiots rule...
freeze
Sucked when I was there.
and deduced from that that nobody carries them? I just LOVE the guys who go down there for a couple of weeks, don't see any violence, then return and start posting about how Colombia is no more dangerous than Canada (just an example). On a brighter note, Mexico has now surpassed Colombia as the "kidnapping capital of the World."
Real Life Story - I saw it first hand!!!
When I visited Cali in August 2003, I was on the balcony of my room at Hotel Don Jaime when I heard a few "pops." When I went to the balcony to see what was happening, I saw a guy riding a scooter down Av. Sexta and a guy chasing him with a gun in his hand. The guy on the scooter turned left just before the hotel down a cross street. The man chasing him, stopped at the intersection of Av. Sexta and the cross street and started firing his pistol down the street toward the guy on the scooter.
I think that someone down the cross street tried to stop the scooter, because a minute later, the guy on the scooter turned around (going the opposite way of traffic) and drove back up the street toward the guy with the gun. The guy on the scooter, then turned left on Av. Sexta and came right in front of the Hotel Don Jaime and he kept on going.
Then the guy with the gun (still in his hand) flagged down a taxi. The taxi driver did NOT hesitate in picking up the guy with the gun. They sped off down Av. Sexta toward the guy on the scooter.
A couple of minutes later, a crying woman stopped on the street below my room and two cops on Motorcycles stopped and picked her up and off they went.
I found out later, that the guy on the scooter, knocked the woman off the scooter and the guy with the gun was just a bystander trying to do a good deed.
I felt safe the whole time this was happening because I was behind a thick cement wall and it was pretty entertaining watching from a safe distance. If I was at the restaurant on the street level, I would have had a different opinion though!
So, I guess Antifreeze, Surfer and the others that have reported that guys DO carry guns are NOT full of BS. You should make your own decision whether a piece of pussy is worth the risk (and don't believe anyone who says that Colombia is NOT a risky/dangerous country).
Take care and Antifreeze, stay safe down there!
$Bill
ps - I am trying to stay safe here in Mexico!!!
Well this is how it went.
Tuesday: Me and my boy went from Atlanta to Miami. Our flight was scheduled from Miami to Cali leaving 6 pm and arriving 8:30 pm. While boarding, there was this fine ass Colombian boarding with us. She was, and I'm not exaggerating, the finest woman I've EVER saw. Cute but fine as can be. After we went through customs, I was gonna talk with her but my buddy convinced me that there would be more. We went to a town outside of Cali called Palmira, his hometown. It's pretty much that Cali airport being in the middle and Cali one side and Palmira to the other. We went to his girlfriend's house and talked. After changing, we went to one of the casas. So-so women but one was pretty decent. It was early though so we drank and then went to another casa. I started talking to one and my buddy tried to blow her off and I didn't understand why. When the other girl came out from giving some guys a private dance, I understood why he wanted her to leave. She was about a 9 1/2. The attitude was bad though. We went to about 5 other casas but they were only okay, so we returned to the first. Then there was one girl who wasn't there the previous time. She was 18, really pale skin, red hair and a nice body. She wanted 80,000 and 30,000 for her to leave. We left about 4 am and she left about 2 pm the following day.
Wednesday after the girl left me, my buddy, his girlfriend and her brother left Palmira for Cali. We took a town to town bus (pretty much what the locals do). After arriving in Cali, we took a cab to a seafood restaurant. After that, we left for Palmetto mall. I saw alot of beautiful women in the city but I guess they all visit the mall at night. My head was on a swivel the whole time. I got some phone numbers from the girls also, but I was leaving the following day so I told them I'd call when I return (maybe 2 weeks). After leaving the mall, we returned to Palmira and my buddie's girlfriend cooked dinner. After eating and relaxing, we returned to more casas. I didn't want a girl for the night because I was leaving for the airport early. So we returned to the casa from the previous night where I got the girl who stayed with me. It was 40,000 for 45 minutes but when I paid, they said we could stay for 1 1/2 hours. I left there for my bags, showered and returned to the airport.
I'll have to get the info from my buddy about the casas and restaurant because, it being my first trip, I was wide-eyed. As far as safety, I felt very comfortable. I speak spanish (not fluently) and understand more. The people never made me feel threatened.
I am 22, Indian (grew up in USA), and I don't look like an "American" if I dress like the locals (although when I open my mouth it shows).
I don't have too much money, but I want to have a 2 week *****fest and it looks like Cali is the best place to do this with hot girls. However I am really not sure what to think of all the "danger" associated with this place.
Am I safer because I'm not white? Do I need to know someone there to make it safe? Anywhere else safer I could go where I could get inexpensive, beautiful, young women?
I will be in Cali this week and just my luck allcolombiangirls.com are having there bachlor tour at this time. Does anybody know what hotel? Swimming pool they use? Has anybody just hung out and hooked up?
which I avoid like the plague (only place in Valle with any concentration of gringos).
Can anyone recommend hotel to stay at. I would like to spend anywhere from up to 60,000 night. I was going to stay with friends but just found out Im not going to be able to. Hotel interconnetial is way over my budget at 110$US
Please PM
Last month I stayed in Four Star Sheraton (no internet) but $70/Night- I thought it was OK. You can google and book form their website.
Luis,
I think Hotel Aristi in the downtown business district of Cali is not a bad choice. It's quiet and inexpensive (I think I paid about $60,000 the last time I stayed there).
Beware, however, that it’s not safe to walk around the streets at night as everything is closed (but then again, where in Cali is safe at night?). Always use taxis after dark.
They have their own website, where you can make reservations: [url]http://www.hotelaristi.com.co[/url]
Enjoy!
EC
Fourpoints (Sheraton) is nice BUT their "guest fee" is RIDICULOUS (my friend Kdog stayed there last time). This guest fee trend is getting ugly (DonJaime does it too nowadays, causing them to lose my business).
There is a place right near Versailles park where I stayed the last time (my new regular place was fully booked) that was quite nice and modern, and in a great location. Sadly, I forgot the name but I think it had Versailles in the name.
I do not understand why there must be so much hassle about a place to stay at night. I have been investing now for about 2 weeks over internet (looking for private ads) classificados in colombia, also in Cali. It is a piece of cake to rent an appartment, yes even a full house with a pool outside for less then 1.000.000 Pesos. for a complete month. Take along some dudes or friends and share the place. No bribings with doormen or receptions, no ripoffs with hotels. For me it is clear as water. Invest in some searching, pick up the phone with your best spanish and ask if you can rent the place for a month. Promise them you will take care of the place or ask them to include a maid for the period you will be there. Tell them you will be out before the end of the rental period. So they know they win,made a good deal and even then when they surcharge because you are a tourist, you will still be better off compared to a hotel room.
the sheraton guest fee of 50 mil was nuts for colombia. she only stay for an hour too. also, the paper work involved to get her in was annoying. the high speed internet is hit or miss. they only have a fixed number of modems and they didn't have any available for me during my first night. the breakfast buffet was great (and included in the hotel rate). the room, shower, and ac were all very good.
I have been a guest in Cali for 10 days and here are a few observations.
Im staying at the Hotel Intercontinental, for longstays they have lower rates $57 for a tranditional room. A good option is to join the Ambassador Program, for $150 for the 12 month membership you get an upgrade to a suite for only $77 dollars per night with an office, spa bath and seperate bedroom, fruit and water everyday, cookies, late checkout and discounts on services like laundry and food.
You need to request the longstay rate and ambassador club membership, it isnt offered by staff. By the way, they give you one free night with membership so its effectively free. I read all the posts about appartments and I am sure its more economical, but make no mistake Cali is a city where security is worth a premium, people who speak english, tourist police, video security, 24 hour services...for me for 50 to 80 dollars is worth it. they dont charge for companions but may at their discretion ask them to register for your protection....but most Colombian girls arent keen on that process.
For whoring, I tried 2 el cheapo places...Pharoh and Fantacias International (both with numbers in this thread and at the recommendation of senior members. At Pharoh I tried Alejandra, 23 with a pretty tight body and cute face...probably a solid 7. She was very enthusiastic and at only $40,000 pesos ($20) she was a steal. One pop as they only bring one condom with them, everything covered.
Fantacias was even cheaper at an hour for $40,000 with two condoms. However, girls were a little older, and hygene in the rooms was a little disturbing. At the end of our session I saw her make up the bed with the same sheets I just jizzed on and took my towel from my shower and folded it up and put it back in the pile of "fresh" towels.
The bin was half full of used condoms, a few spewing on the floor. most of this I noticed after my session but it really put me off. As for the girl, she was not hot but not ugly, a 6 with a very cute face, legs and hair but undressed a bit of a gut was apparent. Everything covered and a pretty awful toothy bj, but her fucking was well intentioned and high energy. When I asked her to stop after on the second attempt she seemed frustrated and recommended the toothful BJ determined to make me nut...Jesus, for $20 this is incredible but overall nothing to write home about .
I did visit Escorcias Nightclub right near the Intercontinental. It was $130,000 for an hour and $190,000 for 2 girls. I might not have been there on a good night but the chicas seemed pretty comparable with the girls at the cheap places. I received a beer and there was an attendant so I guess I had the luxury of not romping in another mans fluids but service and quality wise I think there was no meaningful difference
I also did date some of the local girls. Dating is completely different. I was surprised when they would come with a friend on our first date or would refuse to enter into the hotelroom even just to pick something up because of any inference that might have. All this seems to quickly disapate, it seems more ritualistic and to prove they are innocent before they get more action orientated.
I find the colombian (non-hooker) women captivating in their lack of knowledge of how damn hot they are, they have very little attitude, they are very family orientated while still being fun and they are the definition of feminine. I would recommend dating women in Colombia to get over any wounds and fears you carry from the US, generally they seem very innocent and kind at heart. I do not think the guys using the agencies for wives are stupid at all, its a different mrket to whoring but I think Colombian women are better for relationships then whoring from what I saw
Almost all Colombians seem to love tourists and not resent us like many other countries have learned to do. As for danger, I didnt see anything firsthand, and I felt safe as I knew locals, but the sheer amount of security guards, guns and security instrments seems to sugguest you need to be careful. I would stay away from Avinedas Sexta at night, lots of drug deals and unsavory types, I was told by locals to avoid the clubs here and go to a larger upscale place in Norte Cali like Jungle.
Just my observations as a tourist, I am sure the "natives and "implants" know a lot more and welcome their options
Yes, but the House may have no security. Something to take into consideration for sure. However, I will be there for 25 days in Dec so I will be looking into the house deal too.
I think you mean 50 Thousand kdog.
50 mil = 50 thousand, mil is Spanish for thousand.
Just got back from Cali. Brief run down of places I visited. I have personal Phone numbers of some of girls and pics I will be posting in the photo section. If any body needs additional info PM me. Directions to these places can be found in the thread. The places I detailed I took part of some action. I hit about 10 places at night with some local friends. Gentlemen please keep prices to a minimum as other people commented let us establish the price not the other way around. Thanks for everyones input on this forum. It made my trip that much more enjoyable.
Dr. Amor = 50 ,000 1hr
Time = Day time action
Establishment = Cleaniest place I visited , Staff very profesional
Girls
Qunaity = 10- 15
Looks = 6 to 9
*While I was there someone checked in a gun and it was seen as "normal" besides that I would consider it safe
Maximo = 50 ,000 1hr
Time = Day time action
Establishment = Upscale neighborhood by Mr. Mojito
Girls
Quanity = 2
Looks = 9
*Even though they only had 2 girls they were very pretty I will post pic on the photo section safest neighborhood
Establishment on carea #50 My friend called this place the "pet shop" because they had fishes, dogs and a cat walking around.
Cost = 30 1/2 hour 1hr =50
Time = Night time action
Establishment = On a Corner car is visible from a main street , safe, not clean
Quanity = 10
Looks = 3-6
*I was about to leave this place and a lovely doll came in perfect GFE. I had my friends waiting to long.I only had a 30min session with her. I could of had taken her for longer this girl was the highlight of my trip. I have her phone number this girl is very shy like I like them.
I'll be in Cali 7 days.
I would wish to know the best nightclubs and *****houses to go.
I like places who are full of girls in great quantity.
Where is "Dr. Amor" ?
Thanks you for the information.
Has any body seen Medellin Bob in Cali the last few days, I believe somebody spotted his boots the other day sticking out from under a short, fat calina´s minny skirt.
Please report any sightings.
The Aussie.
I have not seen Medellin Bob in here, but sure would like to. You guys took so good care of me when I went to Medellin, that I would like return the favor.
Medellin Bob, if you see this, PM me!
Freeze
PS, your lady friend was probably talking about a long term rental contract.
Short term rentals are all informal. You'll pay more, but no need for guarantors or contracts. Perhaps a deposit, though.
Can somebody rate top 5 places to pick nice girls above 18 in Cali.
[QUOTE=Tony USA]Can somebody rate top 5 places to pick nice girls above 18 in Cali.[/QUOTE]At different times girls can be found in any casa at any age. However some casas have older women in general. If you concider 28+ older. Read through this thread someone actually put a list of 20+ places with ages I followed this and the ages werent always 100%. But I used it for addresses so I didn't mind.
Although I read some high dude in Colombia seems to be married with a girl/woman of 16.
That guy is probably rich. They can always break the rules. I mean normally a Colombian woman would never select me over a local except for the fact that she thinks I have more money. I am 30 years older than them but they would marry me if they thought they would be rich. Such is life. Sadly, I am not rich. LOL
[QUOTE=John05]Although I read some high dude in Colombia seems to be married with a girl/woman of 16.
That guy is probably rich. They can always break the rules. I mean normally a Colombian woman would never select me over a local except for the fact that she thinks I have more money. I am 30 years older than them but they would marry me if they thought they would be rich. Such is life. Sadly, I am not rich. LOL[/QUOTE]
Not really, one time I translated for a 75 year old guy who had a 19 year old girlfriend, together at the Mall she looked like she was holding the hand of her Grandpa, I doubt there was any love there , and all those expensive gifts at the Mall seem to help the relationship.
You guys have an advantage over us when it comes to picking up a younger chick, just because you look different, call it green card, ticket out of here or what have you.
But the main issue here is HOW LONG this girl is really going to last you, before she dumps you for a younger guy?
I can help you get a younger chick if you want.PM.
Cheers,
Peter
[QUOTE=Peter Solano]Not really, one time I translated for a 75 year old guy who had a 19 year old girlfriend, together at the Mall she looked like she was holding the hand of her Grandpa, I doubt there was any love there , and all those expensive gifts at the Mall seem to help the relationship.
You guys have an advantage over us when it comes to picking up a younger chick, just because you look different, call it green card, ticket out of here or what have you.
But the main issue here is HOW LONG this girl is really going to last you, before she dumps you for a younger guy?
I can help you get a younger chick if you want.PM.
Cheers,
Peter[/QUOTE]
What did you translate Peter ? His last will (testament) ? (I would not be surprised if it was his last will)...... or was it the leaflet inside the pillbox mentionning vitamine V.
Dont tell me you did not envy the old man did you ?(in a specific way)
only a golden leesh with lots of diamonds on it will keep her like a doggy with this old fart. We all know that.
[QUOTE=Cream on Top]What did you translate Peter ? His last will (testament) ? (I would not be surprised if it was his last will)...... or was it the leaflet inside the pillbox mentionning vitamine V.
Dont tell me you did not envy the old man did you ?(in a specific way)
only a golden leesh with lots of diamonds on it will keep her like a doggy with this old fart. We all know that.[/QUOTE]
LOL, actualy the man seemed very much alive, and who would not get AN INJECTION OF YOUTH with the babe he had. And oh course, take all those gifts away and she would not help him cross the street.And as far as me envying the man, well..... I can see THAT here every day. LOL. Peter.
Well Peter that is why you read us gringos writing about going to the casas for hookers in Cali. We know that the 20 year old girl will leave us in the USA and that very few of the Cali girls will stay with us. It is an illusion of money.
Now if we live with them in Cali....well I hear some good stories from other members when it comes to living local. Same goes for the Philippines. The record for faithful Colombian girls coming to the USA and staying with their man for life....not good.
The ones I have talked with on the phone only last a few calls before they start requesting gifts. Pretty gold diggers. Another reason we like the casas. But who knows if they are better or worse than the majority of girls in the city? There are millions in Cali alone and we do not know all of them personally. I am sure that there are good ones and bad ones too. Maybe only the bad ones like gringos. LOL
[QUOTE=John05]Well Peter that is why you read us gringos writing about going to the casas for hookers in Cali. We know that the 20 year old girl will leave us in the USA and that very few of the Cali girls will stay with us. It is an illusion of money.
Now if we live with them in Cali....well I hear some good stories from other members when it comes to living local. Same goes for the Philippines. The record for faithful Colombian girls coming to the USA and staying with their man for life....not good.
The ones I have talked with on the phone only last a few calls before they start requesting gifts. Pretty gold diggers. Another reason we like the casas. But who knows if they are better or worse than the majority of girls in the city? There are millions in Cali alone and we do not know all of them personally. I am sure that there are good ones and bad ones too. Maybe only the bad ones like gringos. LOL[/QUOTE]
I agree with you 100 %, and also an American friend of mine got burnt by a Filipina so I guess it is the same everywhere. and Like the say " The BAD girls are the GOOD girls" LOL . Cheers , Peter.
Hi,
Have been reading this thread for some days, I'm mexican, I'm traveling to Cali next month because of work, however, I'm going to be there for a while, have seen recomendations of places, casas, and stuff, however, I have tried some escort sites in Bogota with mixed experience, however, some of the best girls I've been with, I have knew them from these places, my experience is that these girls are a little bit more expensive, but, they are more educated, better body, more cleanned, etc (not always), than girls from brothels, after you have been with one, can get her phone, and get better prices the next time. What do ou guys think of places like these?, have recomendations? The only place I know in Cali, that is said to show real photos is [url]www.lasprofsionales.com[/url], in bogota you can see [url]www.3x.mn[/url]
Regards
You never know how long any girl will keep you before she dumps you for whomever. Younger, richer, better looking, ect.. That said, why not go after the best lookign, smartest, sexiest girl possible? And ugly old bat could leave you too!
If you want business you shouldn't tell the old guys that? haha Kinda true though.
For me, 38, good shape, successful, and considered good looking, Blue eyes, ect....There it seems I do have an edge and is very easy for me to meet younger girls. And I think there is a beginning edge for Anglo men there from the start. Charm, looks, financial stabillity all play a part though. Just as it does anywhere.
I really think that you can find a LTR if you want it in Cali or anywhere in South America. When you start talking about 30 years younger it is pushing it a bit maybe. I think 15 to 20 is definitely in the realm of possibility.
Regarding divorces.. And a girl leaving you. Everyone is getting divorced here! It can happen anywhere.
I think much of it is attitude. I happen to think highly of myself and I think women are attracted to that regardless of age. So let's quit talking about them leaving us. And talk about us possibly leaving them.. Let them worry about keeping us..As my friend says about his new wife..When she gets 40 I will trade her in for two twenties.. lol..I love that. He is kidding but that is the attitiude I think men should have. Only the strong survive.
I did read something that showed 80 percent of Foreign marriages have an 20 percent divorce rate. Much lower then in the US. Not sure it's true but I did read it.
[QUOTE=I Jags]You never know how long any girl will keep you before she dumps you for whomever. Younger, richer, better looking, ect.. That said, why not go after the best lookign, smartest, sexiest girl possible? And ugly old bat could leave you too!
If you want business you shouldn't tell the old guys that? haha Kinda true though.
For me, 38, good shape, successful, and considered good looking, Blue eyes, ect....There it seems I do have an edge and is very easy for me to meet younger girls. And I think there is a beginning edge for Anglo men there from the start. Charm, looks, financial stabillity all play a part though. Just as it does anywhere.[/QUOTE]
Very true, and like you said, let`s aim real high. Cheers, Peter.
[QUOTE=I Jags]I really think that you can find a LTR if you want it in Cali or anywhere in South America. When you start talking about 30 years younger it is pushing it a bit maybe. I think 15 to 20 is definitely in the realm of possibility.
.[/QUOTE]
I jags, I am going to have to agree with you. All of SA is pretty much the same. I believe 15-20 year age difference is probably the best. Most of my friends here average 20 years, Although I currently have 27.
I am 51 and extremely good looking and have game but limited spanish skills.
I do not do regular girls but practice my game at every oppourtunity. In the past year I have made friends with at least 100 twenty year olds, who would jump if I said the word.
I have learned over the years that game (charming personality) always overcomes looks/money/intelligence/age/language. Most of the sucessful guys I have met on this board had Game/intelligence/language.
Obviously I am talking about picking up/GF/marrying the regular girls. With most putas and all goldiggers "it's all about the Cheddar"
By the way, did you ever make it down to Lima, I think I remember talking with you last year on the forum?
Buena Suerte!
LB
Hey just like you guys ... I am very, very ... good looking ... incredibly good looking I must say and I speak espanol.
Imigaine the girls I could get!
Sounds like I and LB are your boys.
I'm just happy that you don't need looks, game, youth or success to score in this wonderful country.
Yes I made it there for 10 days. I really enjoyed it and met some nice girls..2 models actually. I staye din Miraflores the whole time. However, I must say I think Col women are prettier. On the whole anyway. I was in Cali for 22 days and will be in Med for 25 in Dec/Jan
Don't you live in Lima? Seems like you would have picked up Spanish by now. No? I am trying to learn more but I can get around ok. I need to really start trying harder for my trip in Dec.
[QUOTE=Lima Busy]I jags, I am going to have to agree with you. All of SA is pretty much the same. I believe 15-20 year age difference is probably the best. Most of my friends here average 20 years, Although I currently have 27.
I am 51 and extremely good looking and have game but limited spanish skills.
I do not do regular girls but practice my game at every oppourtunity. In the past year I have made friends with at least 100 twenty year olds, who would jump if I said the word.
I have learned over the years that game (charming personality) always overcomes looks/money/intelligence/age/language. Most of the sucessful guys I have met on this board had Game/intelligence/language.
Obviously I am talking about picking up/GF/marrying the regular girls. With most putas and all goldiggers "it's all about the Cheddar"
By the way, did you ever make it down to Lima, I think I remember talking with you last year on the forum?
Buena Suerte!
LB[/QUOTE]
I say we post pictures and take bets who is the best looking between me, LB and Ricker.
I would say me for sure but I need to be it because my penis is so small..haha. I would trade it all for 1 more inch. Or 2 really.
I'm really an ugly little midget with stubby little arms and legs but I have a hudge cock that I should get another boot for to put on the head because it keeps dragging on the ground and wearing down... :(.
I do have lots of money and (game). I made a fortune when Dwarf Tossing was allowed. But will I still get laid in Colombia or are they midget phobic?
[QUOTE=I Jags]Yes I made it there for 10 days. I really enjoyed it and met some nice girls..2 models actually. I staye din Miraflores the whole time. However, I must say I think Col women are prettier. On the whole anyway. I was in Cali for 22 days and will be in Med for 25 in Dec/Jan[/QUOTE]
That's what I tell every body. Peru women are not even close to there other competitors.
Anyone have information on placing an ad in the Cali newspaper. I remember one of the members got a good response from that before. He said that it was not expensive also. Like $10 for one ad.
[QUOTE=John05]Anyone have information on placing an ad in the Cali newspaper. I remember one of the members got a good response from that before. He said that it was not expensive also. Like $10 for one ad.[/QUOTE]
In two different occasions, I tried to place an ad in the Cali paper for a client of mine, they refussed the Ad, claiming only Agencies can place it. I ignore if I was in Cali would they do it, I am based in Barranquilla.
About the $10 an Ad, nowadays it can be more, remember, we get less Pesos now to your Dollars ,About 2 years ago we would get close to COL$3000 to $1, now we get Col$ 2130 to $1.
If you would care to run the Ad in Barranquilla, PM and I will give you all the details.
It is important for you guys to be honest in the Ad, about yourself and the kind of relationship you want, I had an old guy one time that had me place an ad in paper for him, saying he was 33, when I went to the girl`s house with him after I picked him up at the Airport, she shut the door on our faces and that was the end of that, So the trick is, if you are White, say so, if you are Black say so too,if you want to find a wife or just a temporary girlfriend say so. The same goes for age,there always will be women for everything so just be honest.
A typical 20 word Ad in the Local paper for a week can get you on the average 35 responses, although some guys have gotten up to 60, but again it all depends on the Ad.
I hope this helps,
Peter Solano
The rate is 2,980 to 1
QUOTE=Peter Solano]In two different occasions, I tried to place an ad in the Cali paper for a client of mine, they refussed the Ad, claiming only Agencies can place it. I ignore if I was in Cali would they do it, I am based in Barranquilla.
About the $10 an Ad, nowadays it can be more, remember, we get less Pesos now to your Dollars ,About 2 years ago we would get close to COL$3000 to $1, now we get Col$ 2130 to $1.
If you would care to run the Ad in Barranquilla, PM and I will give you all the details.
It is important for you guys to be honest in the Ad, about yourself and the kind of relationship you want, I had an old guy one time that had me place an ad in paper for him, saying he was 33, when I went to the girl`s house with him after I picked him up at the Airport, she shut the door on our faces and that was the end of that, So the trick is, if you are White, say so, if you are Black say so too,if you want to find a wife or just a temporary girlfriend say so. The same goes for age,there always will be women for everything so just be honest.
A typical 20 word Ad in the Local paper for a week can get you on the average 35 responses, although some guys have gotten up to 60, but again it all depends on the Ad.
I hope this helps,
Peter Solano[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Peter Solano]In two different occasions, I tried to place an ad in the Cali paper for a client of mine, they refussed the Ad, claiming only Agencies can place it. I ignore if I was in Cali would they do it, I am based in Barranquilla.
About the $10 an Ad, nowadays it can be more, remember, we get less Pesos now to your Dollars ,About 2 years ago we would get close to COL$3000 to $1, now we get Col$ 2130 to $1.
If you would care to run the Ad in Barranquilla, PM and I will give you all the details.
It is important for you guys to be honest in the Ad, about yourself and the kind of relationship you want, I had an old guy one time that had me place an ad in paper for him, saying he was 33, when I went to the girl`s house with him after I picked him up at the Airport, she shut the door on our faces and that was the end of that, So the trick is, if you are White, say so, if you are Black say so too,if you want to find a wife or just a temporary girlfriend say so. The same goes for age,there always will be women for everything so just be honest.
A typical 20 word Ad in the Local paper for a week can get you on the average 35 responses, although some guys have gotten up to 60, but again it all depends on the Ad.
I hope this helps,
Peter Solano[/QUOTE]
Peter, are you saying you cannot place an ad in Cali? Regardless of price you want to pay?
[QUOTE=I Jags]The rate is 2,980 to 1[/QUOTE]
NOT according to the paper, and I doubt any CASA DE CAMBIO or exchange place will give you more than COL$2130 to $1, but may be you are LUCKY.Peter.
As of Sep 26th/05
Dólar (TRM): $2.290,03
Dólar Casas de Cambio:
Compra: $2.130,00
Venta: $2.160,00
Euro : $2.758,94
What you see there as TRM, and IS COL$2290.03 to $1 means: tasa reprensentativa del mercado, which is what they call the OFFICIAL DOLLAR or Goverment Dollar, but it is different than what you would get on the street for your Dollars. So go by COMPRA which means BUY and is what they would BUY your Dollars for.Peter.
Ijags,
This was taken from the Major newspaper here called EL TIEMPO,if you know where anybody can get more Col$ to $ post it here, I am interested to know.peter.
[QUOTE=I Jags]Peter, are you saying you cannot place an ad in Cali? Regardless of price you want to pay?[/QUOTE]
Yes, that is right, the paper will not accept it, now if I was there in person, maybe , but I am in Barranquilla. I can place all the ads in the Barranquilla paper you want. Peter.
a genius, a liar or a thief. Even at the height of $/CP I NEVER saw 2980 (2900 MAYBE 2 years ago).
Also, why is Peter (whose turf is Barranquilla) being asked to post ads in a Cali paper?
By the by, just back from 2 weeks in Peru and while Colombia remains mi querida, Peru is VERY underrated as a mongering destination. In facvt from a purely MONGERING perspective it may well be better than Colombia (CERTAINLY cheaper). Colombia's strength is the GFE/ novia thing, which is NOT really what most guys reading this forum are seeking. For example, for the same price you'd pay at low end casas like La Clinica del Doctor del Amor you can get WAY better looking girls in Peru. Also, SO many Colombian spots are NOT geared for all nighters whereas this acn be more easily arranged at some spots in Peru.
A girl in Cali is trying to send me a CD with her in action. I sent her the bucks for FedEx to Peru. FedEx checked out the Cd and told her that: 1. It isn't "original" so they can't send it. 2. They can't send porno.
Anyone have any ideas as how she can get it to me? Since when is FedEx using gestapo tactics?
I'm wrong, I had the wrong thing on my mind. Sorry. What about the ad though Peter? Is it possible in Cali?
What area were you in mostly? In Peru.
Remember me? I talked to you 2 years ago when I was in Peru on the phone. Are you still there? We were going to get a drink but you got sick.
[QUOTE=I Jags]What about the ad though Peter? Is it possible in Cali?[/QUOTE]
In Cali I can not, they will not accept Ads over the phone or on line, I don`t know in person.
In Barranquilla, I can run all the ads you want , Peter.
Some say that the girls are prettier in Cali than in Barranquilla. I do not know. How much was the 20 word ad in Barranquilla? What is the accomodation like there? Is the city safe? I was all set to get going to Cali next July. Read about the city and saw some of the girls from the agencies. They looked hot!
About Peru. I never hear about it as a mongering place. Wonder why. It is as far as Thailand for me in LA going there. Cali is a lot closer. So is DR but a lot of bad stories about bad situations and the girls are pretty expensive. Not that many good looking ones although I have seen a few stunners.
Just a thought..Regarding kidnappng, running an ad is a sure way of getting attention, maybe some of it unwanted.
[QUOTE=I Jags]Just a thought..Regarding kidnappng, running an ad is a sure way of getting attention, maybe some of it unwanted.[/QUOTE]
I never saw that happen!!!
If YOUR ad would be the only one, MAY BE I would agree with you,but I have been doing this for over 8 years now, and already have lost count as to how many ads I have placed.
And also most guys run their ad way in advance before coming here so they have a chance to really SENSE the girls and get an idea as to who they want to meet and who they don`t.
The worst thing that happened to these guys here is that they GOT LAID A LOT, and most times FOR FREE.Peter.
Well as it is not an "original" CD, it must be a copy. Let her send it just by ordinary postal service to you. In a little postal box firmly taped so nobody (after scanning) have the will to open it or demolish the box. Let her write on top of the package that it is a "birthdaygift without value". So it looks a sentimental value for the consignee. Let her make a copy just in case it will get lost.
If the above does not work. Let her send it to me (Europe), hehe... When she worths the effort, I'll send it through to you, as postals from Europe to US are not so closesly controlled compared to postals from S.America to US. (grins)
[QUOTE=David_33]A girl in Cali is trying to send me a CD with her in action. I sent her the bucks for FedEx to Peru. FedEx checked out the Cd and told her that: 1. It isn't "original" so they can't send it. 2. They can't send porno.
Anyone have any ideas as how she can get it to me? Since when is FedEx using gestapo tactics?[/QUOTE]
OK, we´ll try that.
Lima is 8 hours from LAX on LAN. DEspite being further than Coombia, nonstop flight lets you arrive more quickly than ANY flight to CAli (which will require a change of planes). Bangkok is at least 17 to 18 hours IF you get a quick connection. Peru rocks and is both cheaper and safer than Colombia.
Colombia is still my favorite for the GFE , due in part due to lack of gringos-outside Cartagena that is, but Peru offers more mongering options.
Using the postal service. Promised her discretion, sorry.
1. I did not have problems with my packages sent into Colombia so far. And it was with "values" inside. One time I send copies of original CD's to Colombia myself by ordinary postal services. A whole bunch (about 6 pieces). Never had any problem, arrived without any delay. Made a friend happy as this way she saved muchos dineros.
2. I do not think ordinary postal services will oblige you to open a firmly thight and taped package at the desk. Especially when it comes from a girl. It will look (indeed) to embarassing (also for the postal clerck). Just let her tell ahead to the postal clerk it is a CD with family pictures. I do not think they will put the CD into a computer to check everything out. As this is a violation of the privacy.
[QUOTE=Pussy Seeker II]LOL, yes I know, I was only kidding you,I hope it does get to you,the mail in Colombia is not the best, I sent one of my girls a gift and she never received it. Latter I found out about AVIANCA EXPRESS, see if they ship to Peru, but you wil have to open the package in front of them prior to shipment, so you have to be careful about what you send, unless you want to be embarrased in front of a lot of people.Cheers, PSII.[/QUOTE]
I agree with BOTH of you guys somewhat.
What PUSSY SEEKER II said about things from the States getting stolen in the mail is TRUE.
I had that happened to me in different occasions, so I recomend if you are going to use the US POSTAL SERVICE , to register the package, at least there is a tracking record , as regular mail keeps no record.
I see no point in SAVING money , by using REGULAR mail if the items will never reach the adressee. I guess you, CREAM ON TOP, have been lucky so far.
Also things NOT only get stolen coming into Colombia, also leaving Colombia as well.
One time I sent a Pocket computer, If someone remembers the Radio Schack basic pocket computer, and a Bulova watch to be repaired to NY.
The person there, received an EMPTY box after a month, the money I SAVED by not using REGISTERED mail, did not compensate the loss.
It is also true,that sometimes the cost of registering an item in the States, can be equal or greater to the cost of a Courrier service, so using alternate methods could be an option.
And with you CREAM ON TOP, I agree on the fact that it is unlikely they will pop the CD in the computer to see what is in it.
But she will have to open the package, no matter how well sealed or taped it is.
Especially after 9 11. It could contain explosives or illegal substances, and it makes no difference if the sender is a girl or a man.Girls here HAVE to open their purses when entering a Mall or a Department Store.
Writing something like " MUSICA VARIADA" which means assorted music could disguise the contents of the CD a bit,and I doudt the clerk will pop the CD in the computer to hear just LOUD MOANS. LOL
She could also send you David_33 a pair of panties as a souvenier,but she will have to show them to the Clerk and to all the other people in line.
I know this is the Cali thread, but this information can be useful to anyone in the USA.
I hope this helps a bit. Cheers to all of you, Peter.
[QUOTE=Surfer]Lima is 8 hours from LAX on LAN. DEspite being further than Coombia, nonstop flight lets you arrive more quickly than ANY flight to CAli (which will require a change of planes). Bangkok is at least 17 to 18 hours IF you get a quick connection. Peru rocks and is both cheaper and safer than Colombia.
Colombia is still my favorite for the GFE , due in part due to lack of gringos-outside Cartagena that is, but Peru offers more mongering options.[/QUOTE]
OK Surfer. I am going to look on the Lima Peru postings now. I hope that there are a lot of 10s there. You have promoted Lima over and over again so it must be good. How is the non pro scene there?
Not a lot of 10s, probably Colombian girls are generally prettier. But Lima is fairly unspoiled and there are possibilities all over the place. Ask Surfer about his manicurist.
Surfer, nice meeting you and Gaugin, can not wait to see your Peru report!
David33,
Every time I see people trying to compare SA girls I cringe. In every country there are ugly and beautiful girls and general rules of thumb are just that. It reminds me of the article in the "Mens Journal" about 5 years ago in which they tried to identify the country with the most beautiful girls on the planet. After much research they narrowed it down to a small fishing village in Iceland about a hours drive from Rekjavek(sp.) Right after the article American guy's were paying astronomical prices for tickets to there annual beauty contest. Beauty is such a subjective thing and ratings rarely include personality. Almost all women put personality ahead of looks when it comes to dating and sex, It seems that with maturity us guys are starting to factor that into our equations.
John05,
You probably will not find many 10's in Lima. But here is some valuable advice!
If you turn over any Peruvian 7 she becomes a Columbian 10, however it does not work on a pair of 5's.
LB
I disagree that I have "promoted Lima over and over again". I have only been back 3 days man! The non pro scene IS happening, though David shafted me on the lawyer in Trujillo with huge hooters who would have been a highlite of the trip ):
Looks ARE subjective, as LimaBusy notes, so I can only speak to my perceptions. I am NOT into white skinned blondes or what many Americans would consider model types. I like Morenas (Brown), bajitas (short) and I especially like a solid pair of non saggy boobs and a curvy culito (ass).
Colombianas are still tops in my book, make no mistake. However, based on what I have seen/heard I believe Venezuelanas are equal in looks (but inferior in attitude). Ecuador is WAY behind the curve, with Peru not far being Colombia. The best girls in Peru seem to come from the Eastern portion (the Amazon).
For sensuality and performance, it is an absolute no brainer: Brasileras blow doors on EVERY Nationality on Earth (at least those that I have tried and I will wager no other nationality is as uninhibited).
[QUOTE=Surfer]I disagree that I have "promoted Lima over and over again". I have only been back 3 days man! The non pro scene IS happening, though David shafted me on the lawyer in Trujillo with huge hooters who would have been a highlite of the trip ):
Looks ARE subjective, as LimaBusy notes, so I can only speak to my perceptions. I am NOT into white skinned blondes or what many Americans would consider model types. I like Morenas (Brown), bajitas (short) and I especially like a solid pair of non saggy boobs and a curvy culito (ass).
Colombianas are still tops in my book, make no mistake. However, based on what I have seen/heard I believe Venezuelanas are equal in looks (but inferior in attitude). Ecuador is WAY behind the curve, with Peru not far being Colombia. The best girls in Peru seem to come from the Eastern portion (the Amazon).
For sensuality and performance, it is an absolute no brainer: Brasileras blow doors on EVERY Nationality on Earth (at least those that I have tried and I will wager no other nationality is as uninhibited).[/QUOTE]I know a little about Brazil and I can say that SOME of their woman are hot and SOME are affectionate but most are as plastic as their tit jobs. It is engranded in them and the plastic might not be so much to hurt as to STROKE your ego but they are plastic.
They look to complement even if they do not have anything to say. It is not just a sex con thing it is a culture thing. When I visit my family in Brazil (Bello Horizante) I visit their friends and associates and I have heard them go out of their way to complement something in the houses they visit and once out they so how horrible it was.
Brizilians on a hole are decent people but when it comes to the trust factor I would trust a Colombian first.
About las Venezolanas ... the equal in looks but inferior in attitude ... statement.
Honestly, this can be true for the "upper echelon" (economically speaking) chicas ... they can be arrogant.
However, the same can be said of the "upper echelon" Colombianas tambien.
Truth is ... I've traveled for years to both Maracaibo and Caracas, as well as all over Colombia ... trust me amigo ... the chicas de Venezuela are sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!
Suerte!
[QUOTE=Ricker]the chicas de Venezuela are sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!
[/QUOTE]True, but most are bleached blonde . Just kidding,:) Peter.
Good waves in winter too. Caracas sounds the least friendly for chicas. Secondary cities sound like the call as everybody says the chicas are much friendlier (foreigners are more of a novelty so it makes sense. ) Valencia and Merida are both mentioned in positive ways.
You ought to givev Peru a chance to, or maybe you have been there recently. Definitely hook up with David33 if you go. Suerte compadre
I've always had GREAT times in Caracas ... met my current novia in a McDonalds at the mall ... she's demasiada sweeeeeeet!
Colombia ... Cali, Medellin, Barranquilla ... awesome ... but trust me ... walking about Caracas. more hot hot chicas per sq foot than anywhere I've ever been too ... especially if you dig the morenas ... como yo.
If you approach these chicas in a nice manner ... they're muy friendly.
Suerte!
Hmmmm I must be in the wrong place, I was looking for the Cali forum
Planning a 30 day trip to Columbia
I near help on where I should go 1st:
Cali, Mede, Bogota, Barq & Cart.
Which is cheaper departing from Miami?
I am ending 11 yrs of travling to Brazil because I have mastered it. (North & South), experienced 4 Carnivals.
Is Columbia cheaper?
Can I rent a studio apartment in a working class neighborhood. How much per night.
I would like to visit small towns outside of Mede, Cali, and Bogo.
I am doing as much research & reading of this site as possible.
Can you please post the 5 star places to find 9's and 10's in Cali, Bogo & Mede and Cart.
Would you recommend long distance bus travel from different cities?
Can you list 3 or 4 places to find chicas in each city.
Are there many young chicas in their 20's to discover?
Can someone provide me with apartment contacts in each of these cities?
What is the bottom price you guys are paying the chica for an all night stay?
I am traveling from Miami and long for the cheapest non-stop flight and an airline that allows me to earn miles towards a free ticket.
Can you help with info Sufer
Please feel free to post helping advice anyone
Relax ... WTP ... comparisons are always good,
Imaginate ............................................................. !
[QUOTE=Liucio]Planning a 30 day trip to Columbia
I near help on where I should go 1st:
Cali, Mede, Bogota, Barq & Cart.
Which is cheaper departing from Miami?
I am ending 11 yrs of travling to Brazil because I have mastered it. (North & South), experienced 4 Carnivals.
Is Columbia cheaper?
Can I rent a studio apartment in a working class neighborhood. How much per night.
I would like to visit small towns outside of Mede, Cali, and Bogo.
I am doing as much research & reading of this site as possible.
Can you please post the 5 star places to find 9's and 10's in Cali, Bogo & Mede and Cart.
Would you recommend long distance bus travel from different cities?
Can you list 3 or 4 places to find chicas in each city.
Are there many young chicas in their 20's to discover?
Can someone provide me with apartment contacts in each of these cities?
What is the bottom price you guys are paying the chica for an all night stay?
I am traveling from Miami and long for the cheapest non-stop flight and an airline that allows me to earn miles towards a free ticket.
Can you help with info Sufer
Please feel free to post helping advice anyone[/QUOTE]You should look at AA.com dont fly into Cali Im planning to take a trip to Cali it seems that there are good deals to Mede and Bog Cali is $800- $900 everywhere else is only $500. Try Avainca also.
Good luck
I tried that cyber cupido but can not translate all of the words on my own. It seems that it is a pay per month site. You can look at the photos but not too many. Then, if you want to write to one, you must pay like $20. I suppose you can use the internet to translate. Some are kind of cute. The photos I have seen of the girls in Colomibia are pretty nice.
Not sure what city is the best in Colombia. Seems like every guy has his favorite. Cali is real popular. Most of us can learn a little Spanish a lot faster than Portuguese so Brazil is out for now. Got ripped off by the Brazilians before so Colombia can be no worse.
[QUOTE=John05]I tried that cyber cupido but can not translate all of the words on my own. It seems that it is a pay per month site. You can look at the photos but not too many. Then, if you want to write to one, you must pay like $20.[/QUOTE]
This is one of the few sites that lets you contact the girls for free, the only drawback is that you are limited to 2 contacts per day, restricted by age, and limited to seeing 50 pictures per day for free.
Also if a girl does not write the age she wants her man to be, you will not be able to write her.
Even if she is within the age bracket you want.
She WILL be able to write you though, but you will not unless you become a paying member or GOLD MEMBER.
But they will not edit your message, so you can send her your email or phone number, unlike most other sites, and you can read all your letters to without a restriction.I hope this helps. Cheers,Peter.
Hi,
I just arrived in Cali. Are there any guys here at the moment who are also alone anf also wanna hang out make fun? Send me a pm.
First at all, you need to know some spanish words to get in contact with them.
In the south of Cali there is a university called universidad de la valle (Univalle). Every taximan knows that place. You can take also public bus, many of them stop close to the entrance (n°7,9 blanco negro...) .
The university is in front of Unicentro BY la pasochancho. You can go inside, there are watchmen in front of the gate, but don't stop go directly inside as you are working/studying there.
But if you look like a gringo ,wearing a flashy yellow t-shirt written Colombia, is better to have some good reasons (say that you are a teacher from USA coming to see a friend working in physical department!)
After that, is like you are in heaven, with plenty of young girls working in the campus.
The good place is the CAI ( a sort of canteen), have a meal or juice and look for your partner.Don't be shy and talk to them, as soon they will know you are a foreigner, you will have good chance.Most of the girls will have cellular, so take the number and call them later.
You can meet people who are selling "minutos" for calling cellulars. It's the cheaper place. 100 pesos for Ola and 300 pesos for the others networks.
And if you cannot find a girl there , go to Unicentro. You can find an office to put an ad (classificados) in a newspaper.
Tchao,
MR
Come on guys! Where's your pride?
Putting an ad to meet girls is just one of the siliest idea I've ever heard. I am not saying that it doesn't work, but come on, what are you saying to everyone (including yourself) about yourself? "I am desperate" - "The only thing that I have working right for me is my passport and wallet" - "I can't compete with all the other guys on the same basis" - "I'll accept any girl because my dick is on fire". And then, what kind of girls do you get? The ones that are looking for an easy catch (which is exactly what you are). If you really do not have anything else working for you, and you really need to seriously consider running an ad to get some, then I'd advise to get out of the market. Forget about sex, you had your days (or maybe not), but now leave sex all together so that other people that deserve it can actually enjoy it because they actually have a personality, some carisma and else...
Freeze
[QUOTE=Antifreeze]Come on guys! Where's your pride?
Putting an ad to meet girls is just one of the siliest idea I've ever heard. I am not saying that it doesn't work, but come on, what are you saying to everyone (including yourself) about yourself? "I am desperate" - "The only thing that I have working right for me is my passport and wallet" - "I can't compete with all the other guys on the same basis" - "I'll accept any girl because my dick is on fire". And then, what kind of girls do you get? The ones that are looking for an easy catch (which is exactly what you are). If you really do not have anything else working for you, and you really need to seriously consider running an ad to get some, then I'd advise to get out of the market. Forget about sex, you had your days (or maybe not), but now leave sex all together so that other people that deserve it can actually enjoy it because they actually have a personality, some carisma and else...
Freeze[/QUOTE]Well, this is a forum which mostly dealos with paying for sex. So if you go to Cali for a rather short trip, don't like the casas too much, are a bit shy with hunting for tel numbers in a mall why not posting an ad. And even men who haven´t a personality, a lot of carisma or are good looking deserve as much sex as you do.
In fact, we older men are much better lovers than young bucks even though we can't do it as often and might use a bit if Vitamin V for repeated sessions over a short period of time. In fact, my interest in chasing skirt has increased markedly as I get older. When I was Screwed Up's age, I was focused on chasing waves instead. I would have sex when freebies fell in my lap, but I never really started patronizing hookers until my 30s.
Your suggestion that older guys should just stop having sex is SO absurd that I urge you to delete your post before it becomes the subject of much ridicule. Please reread your post and I am SURE you will realize that your theory of "deserving" sex due to charisma etc. sounds MUCH more "silly" than people placing ads. If they want to post ads (hardly necessary IMHO) to find girls, so what? If they end up finding golddiggers, well that is a risk they must accept. But I fail to see how that all affects YOU and why you are so opposed to it.
You are just wrong on so many counts.
I have seen pics that PSII got in response to his ads. They look pretty good.
Why not use an ad for a first time visit to a country, especially when you are not as fluent in the native language? Fill up your first few days with some sure things you met thru the ads. If things work out, great. If not, gain some confidence, and begin the hunt.
It appears that you are saying that paying for sex at all is to be looked down upon. Isn't that what this board is all about?
As for age, I will have to echo Surfer's comments. When I was younger I would put up with all the effort of the chase to get some pussy or when "it fell in my lap" Now after having been married once, I just don't want to deal with it. Sure I meet some ladies and have a nice dinner and maybe get sex. Then a lot of headaches! So it is just easier to search out some P4P and get on with it. I have a lot of other things to waste my time on.
I am not a fan of newspaper ads but I have used the internet extensively latinamericancupid as well as other sites and it is the same thing. So I can not call the kettle black. I think if a guy wants it, he has to use all of the tools available to him be it game/looks/money or newspaper ads. This guy PS11 has never been down to SA like many guys on this forum and do not realize how incredibly easy it is to get snatch paid or unpaid.
I can remember my first online experience when I lived in the states. When a hundred beautiful women half your age are begging you to come down it does stroke your ego.
So live and let live!
LB
would you post an ad in your hometown newspaper? probably not. probably because you would be scared of what the other people would think. well, i would not, mostly because i would be scared of my own thoughts rather than the ones from other. i would not because my self-esteem would be affected negatively.
i respect everyone here (as long as ****s are not involved), but that doesn't mean that i have to accept every behavior as mine.
i personaly think that putting an ad is pathetic, and if anything else, plain dangerous (people do get kidnapped down here - for a tiny portion of the colombian society, having a list of phone numbers and adresses of gringos is a pot of gold).
anyway, not a big deal. i do not keep any hard feeling against anyone. i am happy that you had a good trip psii, and that worked out for you.
good to have some life back on that board (one of the reason i posted this, was to get some movement again here), i missed you guys!
freeze
That IS a potential risk of running an ad I suppose. I have never needed to run an ad (as you know my problem in Cali is not having enough time to visit with all the chicas I already know), and my post was less about your comment on posting ads thanm the implied criticism of the hobby as a whole. Anyway, hope to see you soon (my girls are getting impatient (: ) and I got ofered a free room in Cartegana for Miss Colombia pageant so I am seriously considering that idea.
What you do does not matter, as long as you get laid. I think that's the purpose of this board. From paid AND free sex. The way you achieve those goals can be different for everybody. So what is the f*cking point argueing about this !!
We all have or own "style", we all have our own tricks. Its called personality, charisma, kharma, whatever you like it to be called.
One thing is for sure. Age has nothing to do with it (cfr. Antifreeze), it is common knowledge in Colombia a major part of the mid twenty aged chica's prefer men +35 and yes even double their age. Maturity, security and a wealthy cave to bring up their off spring is what they are looking for. (this is the non paid sex scene for a major part). They take their chances with their gringo boyfriend after a while. And convince him with their outstanding sexual abilities. Like putting the cherry on top of the cream jajaja !!!
Pro scenes .... well you have them everywhere. That's (for colombia at least) IMO a nice alternative. For days without a "freebee"booking. :-)
For many countries it is the other way around. You pay to get sex. I think Colombia is quiet different when you look normal, behave normal, show some respect, and show you are a "caballero" you get laid every night for free.
Up to you what you like ! Let us get back to reports.
Refering to Cream On Tops comment about Age. He stated that a woman of say 25 prefers a man of say 35 or older.
I have found this to 100% correct, not only in Colombia but all across central america aswell.
I am 25, but look 21. I have found it hard to find regular chicas because girls my age have NOOOO interest in a guy my age, even when they know I am American.
If im in a mall or something, the chicas that are looking at me are usually wearing a school uniform! LOL!
[QUOTE=Rygin]Refering to Cream On Tops comment about Age. He stated that a woman of say 25 prefers a man of say 35 or older.
I have found this to 100% correct, not only in Colombia but all across central america aswell.
I am 25, but look 21. I have found it hard to find regular chicas because girls my age have NOOOO interest in a guy my age, even when they know I am American.
If im in a mall or something, the chicas that are looking at me are usually wearing a school uniform! LOL![/QUOTE]
I would kill to be 25 again..I am 38. How are you affording to travel kiddo?
You must have something on the ball at an early age..
Having living 4 months in South America, I can confirm what Rygin wrote. I wouldn't say 100 per cent but more than 80 per cent anyway.
When I was in Peru for ex. it was easy to have dates with girls around 20-25. I am 38 but I look 32-33...
One aspect that is not mentionned here is the RELIGIOUS aspect. Many girls, that I date, believe in god and they usually don't want to have sex before their marriage or they want to go out with the guy 6 months or 1 year before having sex with him.
I had a girlfriend in Lima, I could kiss her, but no sex....
I don't know if it's the same in Colombia, if religion is as much important as in Lima. Or perhaps I just met the wrong catholic girls or religious girls......just bad luck......
But even some girls that I met and they don't believe in god or go to the church, they told me that they wanted to wait a long time before having sex with a guy.....
I met many girls in Peru, between 30 and 40.
Is it the same in Cali or in some other cities in Colombia???
Age means nothing really ...
I'm on my way to Venezuela today to hang with an 18 year old, beauty ... I'm in my early 40's ... "cuarenta y pico" as they say.
We get along great ... she doesn't date young dudes ... like most of these native latinas ... she says "no me gustan los muchachos" ... or "I don't like the boys".
When people here ... in the good ole' USA ask me ... how can you date these young girls? What do you talk about?
I just laugh ... 'cause they just don't get it.
Let's see ... what do my friends here in the US talk about with their equal-age wives/girlfriends ... hmmmm ... how lazy we are, how we don't have a big enough house/car, don't make enough money for them, ............... etc.
Different culture ... different world ... different way of thinking ... thank goodness!!
On another note ... seriously ... these latinas ... even if they're religous ... if they're your girlfriend or want to be ... and they really dig you ... they're gonna take care of you sexually ... maybe not the first date or second, but shortly thereafter.
They're not stupid ... they know a man has his needs ... and if she doesn't take care of you ... somewone else will.
Suerte!
Volpone,
I think you had bad luck. In years of living in Peru I haven´t encountered a problem with religion. Although the great majority here are officialy Catholic, they don´t let that fact stop them from having a good time. Less and less "virgins at marriage".
[QUOTE=I Jags]I would kill to be 25 again..I am 38. How are you affording to travel kiddo?
You must have something on the ball at an early age..[/QUOTE]I was spending month at a time in Latin Amerika when I was 25. And I paid for that. I get more girls now at 39 then I did when I was 25. But my problems at 25 was also that I looked like 21 then, definately too young for many of the girls.
oy ricker que mas viejo?
what you said about the latinas is spot on. all ages are really great too. i have had some encounters with colombiana milfs (30-40yrs) and i am almost a convert. those women really know how to take care of a man in and out of the cama/bed. dios mio its like getting raped, they never want to leave it alone!!! i think because they know a man in his 40s + is so desirable by the chicas there is nothing they won't do to keep their man happy. the ones i have been with also had bodys better than most a lot younger.
All ages are really great too. I have had some encounters with Colombiana MILFs (30-40yrs) and I am almost a convert. Those women really know how to take care of a man in and out of the cama/bed.
I totally agree with this statement since women in this age bracket have such a different mentality, personality and attitude. They sure know how to treat and take care of you, regardless of your age (I'm 33). Last time I was in Cali (December 2004) I hooked up with a MILF and went out with her on my last night there. She was actually the "cherry on top of the cream" - not only did she make me feel very good, but we kept in touch afterwards for a while. She didn't tire writing me emails and calling me internationally on her dime. I even received a gift from her on my birthday. With the younger ones the interest level eventually faded and it wasn't that intense to begin with. Maybe I need to age a little more for them he..he.he....
[QUOTE=Cyberdas]All ages are really great too. I have had some encounters with Colombiana MILFs (30-40yrs) and I am almost a convert. Those women really know how to take care of a man in and out of the cama/bed.
I totally agree with this statement since women in this age bracket have such a different mentality, personality and attitude. They sure know how to treat and take care of you, regardless of your age (I'm 33). Last time I was in Cali (December 2004) I hooked up with a MILF and went out with her on my last night there. She was actually the "cherry on top of the cream" - not only did she make me feel very good, but we kept in touch afterwards for a while. She didn't tire writing me emails and calling me internationally on her dime. I even received a gift from her on my birthday. With the younger ones the interest level eventually faded and it wasn't that intense to begin with. Maybe I need to age a little more for them he..he.he....[/QUOTE]
I'll get the MILF's once I am +60 :-)..... for now i keep on enjoying the young salsa deers and hunting them down. Way enough time to let me taken care off another way once I need a cane to walk around.
[QUOTE=Poturu]Hi,
I like only no prostitute gilrs.
I am 51 old and in Africa there is no problems with very young girls.
In Cali can I choise every very young girl too.
Can you give me some info about Cali about it?
For example can a 20 years old girl takes interest about me?
Some detailed info, please.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Poturu... We try to keep things in the realm of good taste here, so when you say very young girls lets be talking of nothing under 18yrs... OK?
Yes a 20yr old will take interest in a 50 yr old man... but... There are some things to consider here. Is she poor and the family is pushing her to find a rich gringo to elevate their status? Are you 50 and look 40? Or is she a pro and you are an ugly old smelly bastard? In that case she is only shagging you for money and its a matter of how good of an actress she is... ;) Entendio viejo?
*Not trying to insult anybody just the facts IMO.
Hey ... I'm heading down to Barranquilla to see my 19 year old Costenita ... and then the 19 year old Paisita in Medellin.
I'm 40 y pico but look much older ... ha ha ... I think I look 40 but act like a kid ... and I laugh a lot.
Taker easy amigo!
Damn I hit the Lotto, with my puta! A good girl from a good family but 100% freak in bed, and yes a lady in the streets!
20 Vs. 50 Possible yes, but likely hell NO! You have to look at it like this, life is like a book Chapter after Chapter we read learn and experience! A 20 year old Hottie is maybe on Chapter 3, still wants to party hang with her friends the mall experiment with Alcohol and hell maybe even drugs!
At 43 my ass is still pretty young, my best friend is my 28 year old Sobrino, but can I keep up with a 20 y.o. hell yes for a few months, after that nada in common!
One thing that my girl told me that Gringo's open up their wallets way to soon, as if they are trying to buy the girl, man is she sorry she said that!
Not sure who said it maybe Ricker, but yes from my limited experience, with bad and good girls in Colombia, the good ones will not take your money for the most part to much pride, the bad girls will flat out ask, but bad really bad can be good my friends! Mmmmm! Check out my pics!
About six months ago, my cry was broke, it was hard for her to ask for 100,000 K! So I sent her a Mil, told her dumb ass to pay off all of her bills, and learn how to manage her money better, because Daddy will not be sending more!
And what did she do, paid off all her bills and even saved some money when I came back the following month!
She showed Daddy the receipts, that she had paid off all her bills, and of course Daddy gave her a spanking for mismanaging her money!
Jsut another exsample when bad can be good!
God I love Latinas!
Hey Latina Passion ...
I pretty much agree with what you say but ... when you describe the 20 year old on Chapter 3 ... seems more like the gringa 20 year old you're describing ... i.e. ... hanging at the mall, drug experementing, partying, etc.
Sure there are latinas like that too ... but not the 20 year olds (non-putas) that I hang with.
My girlfriends (of about 20 years) are either studying hard in school or working or both and / or taking care of family members too ... of course they like to rumbear ... party and let loose too ... but for the most part ... they aren't girls at 18 or 20 years old ... they're women ... unlike the gringa ... (in general of course).
As you know the cultures are worlds apart between the west and latina (pure latina that is ... not South Beach latina).
The 19 / 20 year olds I hang with are very much as mature or mas than I.
Yes, you're corecto ... I (us guys) have the experience, more chapters behind us, as you put it ... but that's one of the qualities that these younger senoritas really dig.
The ones I talk and hang with really like the guys with the experience ... and of course it sure just makes you feel younger hanging with a younger chica.
Claro que si ... if you don't know what your doing ... in the world of looking for young latina girlfriends ... you can definitely get involved with the professional gringo hunter ... wallet chaser ... definitely out there ... Bunches of them in those Cali Marriage agencies ... imaginate.
IMHO ... go out ... be friendly ... don't be shy ... talk to muchas chicas ... date muchas chicas ... LEARN THE LANGUAGE ... have fun ... it'll be easy to know which chicas REALLY dig you and which don't
Age really ... it doesn't matter down south ... no hang-ups ... if you dig someone and they dig you back ... it's cool.
Suerte!
I forgot about the culture, man I've have only been doing the latin thing for 3 years now, dude your on the Money, I'm from L.A. and and the Latinas here are not South American Latinas!!!!!!!!!!
My girl is 29 I'm 43 and I get along great with her friends and family, includeing Grand Ma!
I have even talked to Grand Ma about how I think a relationship should be, Daddy has line item veto power, I told her baby girl will get her way 90% because I'm not that picky, but when it comes to a major decision Daddy is calling the ball if can't call it together, Granny agreed!
Told me that is how her husband ran his house!
The funny thing is some of her Aunts my age or a bit younger, oh my god they are fine!!!!!!!!
And your right Latinas tend to date guys older then they are!
I can't wait to sell my house and retire down there!
For those interested :
hotel listing with phonenumbers in Cali.
[URL]http://www.partres.com/hotel/cal.html[/URL]
In one of the reports someone said every massage ends with a happy ending. Is this the norm even the legit looking massage parlors?
My trip to Cali showed the value of research – in this case I forgot to bring my research results, and it really set me back. I was reduced to using the newspaper ads, and many of the ads were not fruitful.
First, Cali seemed fairly welcoming to me as a tourist. The people were friendly and helpful, and most were interested to just chat with a North American. There are fewer guards than in Costa Rica, and I took that as a good sign.
The local paper has about 40 ads for various houses, nightclubs and private parties. I checked out almost every single house advertising, and more than half of them were not at the address listed. This went for several houses that have appeared in these forums.
When I’m traveling by myself I don’t ever go into a house I haven’t checked out in the daytime, just to give myself a little bit of extra security. So I was very disappointed at the number of houses that were simply empty shells, with signs for sale or for rent on them. I didn’t call the numbers in the ads, and that might have saved me from some wasted investigations, but if the ad is running today, and the house address has obviously been empty for weeks – I don’t think about calling the number. My paranoia I guess.
Eventually I found a couple places that were open, but the only place I actually went in was south and east of the Guayaquil neighborhood, a borderline security risk. But the house was very friendly, the ladies were sweet, and the prices were downright inexpensive. The address is Calle 13A #17-32. This house actually has two ads in the same paper.
Price asked for a massage with happy ending was COP 12,000, or 16,000 for two women, which they for some reason were really trying to get me to go for. That’s for the first 35 minutes. I wound up spending about two hours each visit, and spent COP 35,000 and 40,000 per visit. I was really happy with the services and the companionship of the two women I picked.
I stayed at the MonteCarlo Apartahotel for COP 80,000 per night. This was a one bedroom apartment with a fully equipped kitchen. The staff were absolutely helpful and nice. I did not bring anyone home, and that might not be the best thing to do there. But it would depend on the person you brought home and the person on duty I think, more than anything else. It was only three blocks away from Avenita Sexta, and all of the nightclubs, but was pretty quiet at night.
I wish I had more time in Cali, but the next time will be better yet.
Can anyone tell me if the Intercontinental is girlfriendly(pros and nonpros alike)? I have booked a double room.
Also, is there any problem with withdrawing money from ATM s using UK debit and credit cards in Cali? Have been to Rio before and very few ATM s did the business.
Finally, I will be arriving on A Thursday night at about 9pm. I fancy going straight out beaver hunting. Can anyone recommend anywhere good near the hotel. Preferrably non pro action but semi pro or pro will do if need be.
Any info will be much appreciated. Thanks
well, maybe Aguasblancas or Mojica (slums) are worse.
Not sure why you choose thatHotel (yes I believe it is guest friendly, though the closest I have been is the Italian Restaurant out frront) unless you are going on a marriage agency trip.
If you want to spend that kind of money, the Sofitel, Sheraton and Dann are all WAY better. I like the Torre de Cali and Plaza Versailles better too, but they are cheaper than IC.
Thursday night is happening. Go hit the bars on Avenida Sexta or the Casa de Cerveza. ATMs are the way to go BUT withdrawal limit varies from bank to bank. Bancolombia is best as it gives 400K per withdrawal (most others have 300K limit). NEVER use 200K ATMs (RIPOFF!)
You are going at a great time as the festival is going to be in full swing.
The Intercontiental is girl friendly insofar as it allows you to bring a guest to your room, but they will add an extra charge on to the bill for the additional occupancy. Never had a probelm there.
Cheers Chacha and Surfer,
I was quoted 82 US$ a night for the Intercontinental and having heard good things about it, thought that was reasonable but I will check out your other suggestions.
Have got a few more Q s if anyone can be arsed answering them. I ve looked through the last 30 pages or so but cant find the answers.
What tme do things start happening in la sexta? Are there any bars in particular I should concentrate on? I assume getting a taxi on the street at the end of the night will be no problem? As far as the dress code is concerned do you reckon that I ll be OK with smart T shirt and jeans with no jewellery?
Thanks guys
You can dress more casual but will definitely attract more attention if you look upscale in your dress. Avoid jewelry (so as to not to attract unwanted atention). Later is better in Cali. If your Spanishg is good, try the disco in Torre de cali (particularly convenient if you stay there) Hint.
Thanks v much for that Surfer. Much appreciated. I looked a bit further back and found some helpful posts from you, Ricker and Slick1 amongst others. Cant wait to get there now. Bearing in mind what you say about clothes, I ll probably take a couple of suits now. If anybody is interested in going out on the sniff for some non pro action then feel free to give me a shout. I m 33 and like nothing better than going out for a few cold ones and putting my tackle out there to see what bites. I dare say I would muddle through on my own but its always good to have a similarly minded wing man. I ll be there from mid Jan for a couple of weeks.
Cheers
You don't want to look too much like you are on business, but just VERY nice slacks, long sleeved shirt, belt etc.; also, don't worry about cool clothing as most clubs have good AC. They are very into shoes too (antifreeze always lectures me about not wearing my sandals in Cali, but I am rarely looking for new girls in Cali as I already have more than I can handle so I wear my flipflops anyway).
Hey Guys,
I am in a great mood because I am starting my next adventure in 36 hours so instead of telling you to RTFF I will tell you again some awesome tips for newbies! :-)
EXCELLENT TIPS:
HOTELS
My recommendation is to stay 2 or 3 days at [url]www.calihotel.com[/url] it is the Hostal San Fernando. Why, well Rigo is an excellent contact to have in Cali and he is the owner and spending $100 on his hotel to make his friendship is the most intelligent $100 you will ever spend. Also there are ALWAYS mongers staying at his hotel so you can make a friend and a wingman to help you explore the city. Rigo can also always help you with any question or anything you need, also he can probably hook you up with a cellphone. Once you have your bearings then I too would recommend the place Surfer recommended "Torre de Cali" it is WAY better than IC.
AVE SEXTA
The girls are in between Olympica Grocery and the clubs that start off on the most North part of Ave. 6. The best time for trolling is after 9pm up until 3am MAX. AT around 9-10pm there is about 15 girls total on the weekdays and about 40 on Friday and Saturday. The younger and hotter ones hang closer to the clubs on Ave 6, and the black ones hang out real close to Studio 54.
Any girls you see on other streets are umm...not girls!
DONT BRING CASH TO COLOMBIA
I wish the regular Colombia posters would have posted this more often. Use you ATM card because the government charges 16% I.V.A. tax to exchange dollars for pesos where if you use your card you will only pay the ATM fee.
Great restaurants in Cali:
Lenos & Carbon in every major Mall - GREAT MEAT for about $7 a person
Crepes & Waffles - Everywhere in Cali and good - about $6 or $7 a person
La Papa on Ave. 6 around 20 next to Karens Pizza - about $6-$7 a person
Noche Del Rio on Ave 4 Oeste #01-109 Barrio Granada about $8 a person
Cali Viejo - Any taxi driver knows - About $10 a person
Maki - I know this sounds crazy but, GREAT SUSHI and it is located two blocks east of the Parque Del Penon in the north, but it costs at least $15 a person.
Tezones - Ave 8 Norte #29 on the corner - Awesome but about $15 a person
Tutti Sappori - Two places down from Tezones - ITALIAN - $15 a person
Colombia is Great, Have Fun and Good Luck!
Master Monger
My wingman, Spidermonkey, and I have Colombia as our next target. Your summary report is very helpful and is going in my pre trip planning file.
Your comment on money is important. This is something that should be included in reports. I had a section on money in my after action report for Panama.
Starting up my Spanish right after the holidays to get ready.
Travlr
I, too, am in a great mood as I leave for Saigon in 48 hours!
Good post MM (though I do not know that Hostal or Rigo).
You omit one of my favorite places to eat in Cali, Karen's Pizza (several branches but my regular one is next to Blockbuster Video on the Sexta). Very good pizzas, but I always have the lasagne with garlic bread (and a limonade).
Also, Bancolombia ATMs allow 400K withdrawals and are the best, but last couple trips my cards won't work there for some reason so I am limited to 300K per withdrawal. ):
Hey there, just read from another source that muggings are getting horrifically violent in Cali.
They don't even wait for the victim to run or struggle. Robbers are just going up to their target, shooting them then taking everything off the corpse. So far, there have been over 600 deaths reported from violent muggings.
And no, it's not gang-on-gang violence. Can anyone confirm/deny this information?
"wet nose"
i think cali is just like any other city in south america. take your precautions.
two "incidents" i did have in cali:
1) during my lunch in a restaurant in the centre near torre de cali i heard gunshots. before hiding in the kitchen of the restautant i saw a motor cop shooting at a car speeding away. he was aiming to hit. strange was that all trafic in the street just drove on. few minutes after the shooting everything was back to normal.
2) in one place with chicas there were a bunch of loud and badlooking colombians (males). suddenly comes in a guy telling that the police is coming in. in a second everybody disappeared through an alternate exit. kind of panic. after the police went away the guys who disappeared came back. and they took out the guns they had hidden under the seats of the chairs. i went away. don't like the combination of guns, liqor, chicas and shouting at each other.
Plane tickets have been bought. I will be in Cali for the feria. If anybody wants to get together for some activities let me know. I will be with family some times but will be on hunting trips for some calienas.
Something I have learned from my travels is that violence rarely accurs towards foreigners in other countries than America. The reasons are quite simple...in the countries we like to visit for P4P, they are usually economically oppressed. So the goverment wants to maintain good relations with the foreign countries, so they impose extra strict penalties when a crime is committed against a foreigner. Usually a criminal has somewhat of a brain to contemplate the risks of his actions, killing or hurting a foreigner carries a heavier penalty and pursuit factor. Therefore he will usually pass on committing a crime against a foreigner.
Having said that let me now say this. If you are stupid, and by stupid I mean walking down dark streets or by dark places that are not well populated then you make it much easier for him to conceal his crime, offsetting the risks. Also I recommend you NEVER get drunk when you are out alone. I don't drink so I have never had any problems and I where a Rolex and a couple of diamond rings but I am always aware of my surroundings and evaluate the risks carefully. If people can see you are more aware, astute and conscience of your surroundings they are also less likely to try something. Never look lost, even when you are, it is like wearing a big "MUG ME" sign.
I wouldn't worry about it too much, you are more likely to have problems in America than Colombia.
Good Luck and Have Fun,
Master Monger
Hello
I would like to rent an appartment in Cali for a couple of days. Anybody having an idea where i can find adds for appartment or anybody knows a contact person?
Forum search didn´t deliver any usfull informations.
Your help is much appreciated.
Thanks,
My way
cali is not the best place for mongering! the quality/price ratio is bad.
if you really have to go then don't stay longer then 5-7 days and be sure to include a weekend in your stay.
the only place that did surpirse me in a positive way in cali was club escoses. it is near the hotel intercontinental. taxidrivers know the place. kind of a nightclub/casa. clean, nice and professional. i do recommend kathy. very nice, sweet and enthousiastic girl.
go to cali if you like:
1) cheap & dirty sex. lots of cheap, but dirty casas with unmotivated, ugly chicas.
2) discos and dancing. by the way: only in the weekend.
3) endless dating before getting nowhere.
here are my facts. all information is "as is".
weather.
i have been told in summer it can get pretty warm. 95-100 °f. in winter that is less. 75-85 °f. in daytime it is a bit humid. evenings and night are comfortable. in winter rain can spoil your day.
transport.
taxis are pretty cheap. for p$ 5,000 (us$ 2.50) you travel from north to south. just as in every other city drivers try to fool you by making extra miles. sometimes i even had to tell the drivers myself which way to go. taxi from the airport to town should cost about p$ 35,0000 (us$ 16). busses are cheaper. price p$ 1,200 (us$ 0.50). take good care you are not going go dangerous quarters. i didn't find any maps with bus-plans. buy yourself a cityplan. on leaving colombia you have to pay exit tax something like us$ 30.
communication.
at least a basic level of spanish is required. not many people speak english. and everybody has a cellphone. exchanging telephone numbers is very popular. get a cellphone too. take one from provider comcel. comcel has the best coverage i have been told.
safety.
i guess cali is just the same as any other south american city. so take your normal precautions. like a moneybelt and things like that. i won't go further into this. find elsewhere on the internet what precautions to take. quarters you certainly should not go to: in centro the quarters san nicolas, el clavario and barrio obrero. the rest of centro is also not safe at night. also don't go to siloe (south, not far from calle 5) and aqua blanco (also south).
two "incidents" i did have in cali:
1) during my lunch in a restaurant in the centre near torre de cali i heard gunshots. before hiding in the kitchen of the restautant i saw a motor cop shooting at a car speeding away. he was aiming to hit. strange was that all trafic in the street just drove on. few minutes after the shooting everything was back to normal.
2) in one place with chicas there were a bunch of loud and badlooking colombians (males). suddenly comes in a guy telling that the police is coming in. in a second everybody disappeared through an alternate exit. kind of panic. after the police went away the guys who disappeared came back. and they took out the guns they had hidden under the seats of the chairs. i went away. don't like the combination of guns, liqor, chicas and shouting at each other.
accomodation.
as a first timer stay in the north of cali near 6th avenue (la sexta). north of the river. pretty secure and close to where all other gringos stay. there is a big reconstrution going on in the city. big traffic jam during rush hours. difficult to get to the north if you are not staying there. when i was in cali (in winter) i had no problem finding a hotel. it is a buyer market. during december and special during the feria of cali it can be different. places:
* hotel don jaime. ave 6 15n-25. p$ 101,000 (us$ 45) guest an extra p$ 26,000 (us$ 12). save area. take a room in the back (no streetnoice). helpfull staff.
* aparthotel montecarlo. calle 22n 5n-15. p$ 70,000 - 85,000 (us$ 31 - 38). no extra charge for guests. 3 blocks from la sexta. pretty secure area. bit neglected and the airco in the living room was just not sufficient in daytime. but for the rest ok. helpfull staff.
* apartahotel plaza real. ave 2n 21n-99. p$ 60,000 - 80,000 (us$ 27 - 35). no extra charge for guests. a bit far away from la sexta (7 blocks). but very close near the casas. i liked the the rooms very much. helpfull staff.
* apartahotel del rio. ave 2n 21n-05. p$ 86,000 (us$ 38) for 1 person. p$96,000 (us$ 42) for 2 persons. if you have a guest it is possible to upgrade to 2 persons. a bit far away from la sexta (7 blocks). but very close near the casas. i liked plaze real better.
* hotel granada real. ave 8n 15an-31. p$ 92.400 (us$ 41). pretty save area. i didn't like the rooms. but heard from another guy that he liked to stay there.
* hotel nevada. ave 8a 14n-15. pretty save area. i disliked the place.
touristic things.
* la sexta (= avenida 6) for going out. remember: cali is a party city. you have to love partying. not much other things to do/see. on weekdays it is pretty boring in cali.
* places/bars: london bar ave 6an 25-44, prada, mr mojito ave 5bn 25n-40, mystica, martyns 6a with 22. also check out the avenidas parallel to la sexta. ave 6a and 8. other bars: tienda vieja. a bar i heard that is good place for meeting "non-pros". i have no idea where it is. ask a taxidriver. and the bar down in torre de cali. by the way torre de cali is a big skyscraper in the middle of cali. biggest buildings there.
* centro commerciales (shopping malls). nice for picking up dates. chipichape. in the north at the end of ave 6. cosmocentro. in the south and close to that palmetto. unicentro, also in the south.
* centro, accross ave 6th near the church la ermita, is a nice area for cheap shopping. buy some cheap cd's, clothes etcetera. only in daytime. don't go there at night.
* tres crusez. three crosses on a mountain top. costs p$ 20,000 (us$ 9) to go and return by taxi.
* cristo rey. a christ statue on a mountain top. costs p$ 20,000 (us$ 9) to go and return by taxi.
* the zoo. called zoologico. not that fascinating. but well, what else can you do on a rainy day. think it costs about p$ 6,000 (us$ 3) to get in.
* quarter san antonio, the plaza and parque near the church. in the weekend on a saterday or sunday afternoon/evening. great place for relaxing. the best place i found in cali. take a date with you. no entrance fee.
* torre de cali. you can get on top of the highest building for p$ 4,000 (us$ 2). nice for taking pictures.
* juanchito. i didn't visit juanchito the famous disco area just outside town. i wouldn't go alone to that area (safety) and couldn't find a reliable guide.
food.
the food is no good. first few days the empanadas (a kind of chicken meat) tastes good. but after a few days you get really bored with all the fried food. beer: poker (4%) and brava (5%) are ok.
women.
i personnaly am not fond of the physics of the calenas. they don't have nice slim bodies or attractive features in the face all women have the custom of wearing thight, low cut jeans. but maybe only 10% of them do have the figure for it. lots of bellies and love handles hanging over. guess it comes from eating too much empanadas. furthermore most of the girls have indian features in their face. not my style. strange is that in all casas you have to pay in advance before you take the girls with you. don't like that.
1) dating.
if you like dating girls as in highschool then you definitly have to go to cali.in my opinion this dating costs you a lot of money and time while getting nowhere. it is dating, dating and dating and then maybe maybe maybe in the end you maybe could have sex. well i like it the other way around. first have sex and then maybe maybe maybe i will take her out on a date. i found itamazing how many gringo were trying to impress girls by bying them drinks. but well, if you want to re-experience you highschool time then go ahead. if you like dating try to establish contacts before you go. amigos.com, latinamericancupid.com, etcetera, etcetera. it is pretty easy to get telephone numbers from chicas in the street. much much easier then back home. also age difference is not a big deal in dating. i dated girls who's mothers were 10 years younger then me. just out of curiousity i visited a marriage agency. allcolombiangirls.com. chipichape 2nd floor-206. pretty expensive. something like us$ 450 for one year and us$ 250 for one week membership.
2) club escoses.
it is near the hotel intercontinental. every taxidriver knows the place. a kind of a nightclub/casa. clean, nice and professional. the only place in cali where i felt completly secure. the quality top segment of the chicas is 7.5. girls were very nice and sweet. what a change and what a surpise! i do recommend kathy. very nice, sweet and enthousiastic girl. prices were fair: for one hour p$ 40,000 (us$ 18) for the house and p$ 110,000 (us$ 48) for the girl.
3) flores frescas (=fresh flowers).
calle 20n 4n-16. every taxidriver knows this place. some kind of combination of nightclub/casa. looks a bit better then the normal casas but still a bit dodgy. qualtiy of the top-segment of the chicas: 7.0. at about 10:30 pm they have a nice show in which all the chicas go topless. after that there is a lesbian dildo show. entrance: p$ 15,000 (us$ 7). prices for the chicas: 0.5 hour p$ 130,000 (us$ 57), 1.0 hour p$ 180,000 (us$ 80), to take to your hotel: p$ 60,000 (us$ 26) for the house and p$ 150,000 - 200,000 (us$ 65 - 88) for the chica. i found that the chicas in flores frescas had an attitude problem. like: "you are lucky you may fuck me". beside that these prices are way too high. so my answer was no.
4) millenium.
i have heard about this club but i couldn't find the place. in my hotel the porter (who had a lot of good advices) had heard about it but he didn't know the adress. also three taxidrivers i did ask didn't know where it was. supposed to be near the soccer stadium. but well, i didn't feel like looking in the night in the south of cali for a club.
5) casas.
the casas are cheap but dirty. so take your own towel with you! also a lot of casas on the outside just look like normal houses. sometimes a bit difficult to discover. just ask a taxidriver to drive you around town in daytime for an excursion on casas. a taxi ride costs you p$ 19,000 (us$ 9) per hour. the casas are populated with unmotivated girls although there are few exceptions. in no casa i felt 100% save. the guys that supervise the casas don't know how to handle tourists. here are some adresses.
* calle 23an 2n-95 san vincente. near torre de cali. every day from 10am till 8pm. prettiest girls i did see in casas. price for one hour p$ 40,000 (us$ 18).
i do recommend ariana. good service.
* also near torre de cali in ave 2an near rio cali is farahon. every taxidriver knows this place. av 2an, open at night.
* dr amor / dr love. every taxidriver know this place. av 2an 23n-37 23n-42. everyday from 9am till 8pm. price for one hour p$ 38,000 (us$ 17).
* casa at ave 2an 24n-61. at nights.
* ave 2an 24n-63 9am - 7pm.
* ave 2an 24n-105, every day 9am - 2am.
* ave 2bis, also in north of cali: playmates room and ave 2bis norte 34-61 one hour p$ 57,000 (us$ 25).
* ave 2bis norte 34-55, one hour p$ 50,000 (us$ 22).
* south in cali. calle 13 nr 72-25. av pasoanco. piso 2 (2nd floor). friendly women supervisors. 1 hour p$ 38.000 (us$ 17), ask for nicole.
* dinas. also south cra 50 10-31 (south). unfriendly supervisors.
* cupido's club, autopista sur no 65a-28b (south).
* cra 44 no. 5b-79 (south). etcetera, etcetara.
* beware for casa marineras. this is a casa near la sexta. when you walk la sexta guys try to pull you to the place. don't go. it is expensive. twice the normal rates. and the girls are ugly.
6) websites and newspaper: i have no experience. all i remember is website kaliente.com. look in the newspaper el pais in the announcements for other websites, casas and pros.
7) streethookers. i saw some on la sexta near the crossing with calle 23. everybody in cali warned me against these girls. hard too handle. drugs. diseases.
This is a very informative report , I will add some stuff to my master game plan for next weeks visit.
Thanks!
I do my Pros in Bogota because that is where my inlaws live and when Dip out I do not have time to bs. And do not wish to foul my nest there.
I have MILFS in BAQ and Cali IMO the milfs are primo stuff. I dont want to generalize or offend here but many men in Colombia like to trade in their wives for a newer model leaving the milf at home in the weeds. These women have taken some shit usually and are grateful for a man that treats them nice. Mucho amor en la cama con gusto.
I have played the young Calena scene and I think it sucks, I'm 48 and the young girls just by the large part want to use me for $$ and try not to give it up, most of them have boyfriends anyway and are just playing the older guys or may do a little semi-pro on the side if approached in the right way.
FIDO hit it on the head, I do not particularly care for Cali either I prefer BAQ or the best yet for non pro hunters and semi-pros is never mentioned here.
Manizales, Pereira, Quindio..Oh my lord the girls there are a different breed altogether. Most of the Colombians are aware of the reputation of Pereira women, I am not sure if it is true but I will say that I have met 3 different women on 3 occasions in the street or stores and nailed them on the first date. One girl even came to get me to go to dinner and 10 minutes later we were rutting like weasels.
Hello all.. I fianally found the perfect city in Colombia thanks to luis [ english speaking ] who lives in Armenia.. I was met by Luis at Cali airport who i never met before except by many phone calls. The next morning we hop a bus 3 hours away to Armenia.The fun begins here starting with his friend owning a jeep who i hire for 5 days 50k plus gas a day. the first order of business finding the nearest *****houses in Armenia. The going rate is 30- 50k for the girls here. most of the rooms i saw were unfit for sex so opted for chicas phone #s f6r sex in my hotel. 60k was the going rate..Luis found me a nice hotel near his apartment 40k anite, chica friendly, no extra charge. Those headed to Cali you can phone luis at 57 315 421 8925. I promise you the best time having Luis show you the city of Armenia... very safe area,,friendly people.. untouched by gringos..
After I returned from Cali found the bussinesscard of the following club:
NOVA-NOVA
Discoteca-Cabaret
Pretty Girls
Cra 15 No 33h-15 Cali(Col)
Anyone knows this place? How is it?
i'm just finishing a 9 day trip to cali. i don't have any info about the beautiful women to add, but here's a few tips about hotels and cars.
if you want a gringo hotel close to the action, i'll recommend sheraton. it's amazingly close to flora frescas, has free high speed internet, a great free breakfast buffet, and is $75 per night if purchased in advance. yes, that's expensive for colombia, but i think it kills the intercontinental. there are plenty of great colombian hotels for half that price, but in my experience, i haven't found one with a good internet connection, reliable ac, and reliable hot water. plus, sign-up for starwood points and get a free night every now and then.
about cars...there's a rumor that a gringo recently got in a taxi on sexta which met up with another taxi which held him at gunpoint and took him to atm's. i didn't put much faith in this rumor as i've been taking taxis in cali for 5 years and never have met a problem. however, on this trip i had two highly suspious events. on taxi driver headed in the right direction, but was going very slow and seemed to be whispering on his cell phone. both extremely suspcious in my experience. i threw him 5 mil and got out at the first opportunity without saying anything. second, i told a drive to go sheraton and he made two wrong turns (we were headed in the opposite direction of sheraton) while talking on his cell phone. i did the same thing (5 mil and bye bye). i don't know for sure what was going on, but be very aware when you take taxis in cali. it's best to call for a taxi if you can (the agency records the info about the trip).
is sheraton gf and how for is it from ave 6?
i want to spend us $ 50-75 per night. kindly recommend me a hotel close to action.
looking forward to hear from you.
[quote=kdog]i'm just finishing a 9 day trip to cali. i don't have any info about the beautiful women to add, but here's a few tips about hotels and cars.
if you want a gringo hotel close to the action, i'll recommend sheraton. it's amazingly close to flora frescas, has free high speed internet, a great free breakfast buffet, and is $75 per night if purchased in advance. yes, that's expensive for colombia, but i think it kills the intercontinental. there are plenty of great colombian hotels for half that price, but in my experience, i haven't found one with a good internet connection, reliable ac, and reliable hot water. plus, sign-up for starwood points and get a free night every now and then.
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Kdog, about the gringo being kidnapped. Do see: [url]http://poorbuthappy.com/colombia/node/16100[/url]
You gotta follow your instincts with taxistas (though I have never had a problem in Colombia, knock on wood). You CERTAINLyYwant to always have some $$ to give up if you are robbed (at least a 20,000 peso note stashed somewhere)..
Kdog told me Sheraton adds a $10 guest fee even for ST visitors. Don Jaime started this guestfee BS too and lost my business because of it.
[QUOTE=Surfer]
Kdog told me Sheraton adds a $10 guest fee even for ST visitors. Don Jaime started this guestfee BS too and lost my business because of it.[/QUOTE]
We should all boycott hotels who charge extra for our fine guests.
So besides Sheraton and Don Jaime what else is close by to Ave 6 action in US $ 50-75 range.
void the problem getting robbed never walk around ave sexta late nite. been to Cali 12 times i never make my own decisions here. I speak no spanish ja ja. i was in cali newsyearsr with a local professional friend of luis. body guard for some big shot goverment worker. we party in his neighb6rhood never felt danger at all.. friendly neigborhood even at 3am. i was a big shot being a gringo amonst his friends.. met so many wonderful colombians chicasa too..
I got myself a tough case of Dengue! For those of you who do not know, Dengue is the little brother of Malaria. This is the toughest thing I ever got in my life. I got so weak that I could barely stand. Stomach hurts, head is exploding, vertigos, you name it, it was wrong. Now, I am out of danger as far as my life is concerned, but the Dengue fucked-up my liver. I am alergic to almost everything (used not to be alergic to anything). It's a temporary Hepatitis that I will have for a month or so said the doctor.
Anyway, back to the topic. Here's the referral of an hotel as close to the action as one can get. It's American-owned (a great guy named Claude from Tennessee): [url]http://www.caliplaza.com/[/url].
I've seen the rooms and they are the best. Security is also excellent. Get in touch with him for quotes. I believe that it is girld friendly... And you won't have any of these mosquitoe bytes that fucked me up in his AC rooms.
Freeze
I am in Cali now staying at the Don Jaime (room 304). Nice place and nice people. Getting chicks to my room without the additional guest fee.
I met Claude last night and Antifreeze is correct about this hotel. Claude is a nice guy and I am going to see the hotel today. It is right around the corner from all the discos and bars on Av. Sexta
Freeze - I am sorry you are feeling like shit right now. I hope it passes without you getting worse. I understand if you can get out for a beer. Sounds like you have a hard time just getting out of bed! Rest and I hope to see you the next trip! (I will be back again - soon I hope!)
Guides are charging now 120K to 150K for the girls. They are getting 25K-50K from the girls. Had 2 beautiful ones yesterday (seperate of course - Vit. Vigra makes me a machine, but age still limits my abilities)! even with the higher prices, I am still getting 2-3 hours of service. The girl with the 150K stayed until 5 this morning and we fucked for probably 4 hours straight. THANK YOU PFIZER!!!
Hi antifreeze :
Thanks for the hotel link. That looks good.
Do one really need a guide if you are just there for 3-4 days just to enjoy night life around ave. 6?
Thanks for all your help.
Player2
[QUOTE=Antifreeze]
Anyway, back to the topic. Here's the referral of an hotel as close to the action as one can get. It's American-owned (a great guy named Claude from Tennessee): [url]http://www.caliplaza.com/[/url].
I've seen the rooms and they are the best. Security is also excellent. Get in touch with him for quotes. I believe that it is girld friendly... And you won't have any of these mosquitoe bytes that fucked me up in his AC rooms.
Freeze[/QUOTE]
Just came back from Cali 2 weeks. Had a great time meet two class act guys from the forum. One thing I noticed the quality of P4P girls lowered from my previous visits. I seen more FAT girls this time then any. Sometime I would just go home with out partaking on any action. One nice surprise was a girl from the Casa Katthys in the south side. There where about a dozen girls 4-5 scale she was about a 8 easy 27 years old blonde 5.2 110 pounds nice breast and ass. Great personality to go with. One thing that puzzeled me she was extra carefull using condoms and being clean. She used two condoms because she said the ones they provide are very cheap and can break. Also she had me clean my hands before we even started. But other then that great service
20min 20COl
30MIn 30Col
1 hr 60Col
Also something to contribute to the Motel LIST
Motel Deseos
Carrera 36 No. 10-496 Acopi
[url]www.moteldeseos.com[/url]
New casa on Cra 44 calle 5 in the south side
Casa Deseos
30 min 20 col
1hr 30col
A place to avoid like the plague girls where 1-3 ugly scale girls had hair on legs uperlips
Dr Amor new owners nice guys but quality of girls lowered. This was a nice place. Still clean but quality of girls on the negative.Place write around the corner walking distance went there about four times good looking girls good service. YMMV like always.
No pics this time around nothing really worth it. My next time I think Im going to get some free tail. Dating scene.
Please be carefull when you use taxis they can be dangerous. Last trip I had bad experience. I made the mistake of talking to much the taxi driver made out that I was a tourist and it seemed to me he was not talking the usual route at that point my instinct told me to get out while I can I asked him to pull to the side that I seen a friend. I got the hell out of there. Taxi drivers will even tell you to be carefull they work with the robbers. What you should do is call for a taxi 444-4444 for a taxi they give you a code when the taxi comes you give them the code. If you need a cheap reliable taxi driver call 311-601-2866. i forgot the guys name . Tell him Luis from chicago recommeded you I took his cab when he left a gringo at the airport. He just charged me 30 to get to the south side of cali. I used him to get to the airport he charged me a flat rate of 30 again. I tipped him 4 col because he came at 5:00AM as asked and was pleasent he talks a lot and can answer your questions.
Please dont over pay this is a good deal for both parties. He lives in the north side so it might be cheaper for you 6 ave guys.
Glad to see that Big Bad Bill is no longer sweet William any more. Gotta warn my friends in Cartagena and Barranquilla: (serious muff) diver down! :)
Did you get together with Ayda? She told me you called her yesterday. Anyhow...
Happy mongering, and keep pumping away!
EA
I am going to be in Cali for a few days if anyone would like to get to gether let me know. My number is 312 821 2144.
Hello,
I'm looking to rent a nice apartment in Cali, hopefully in a high floor with private balcony, pool or jacuzzi, hot water, kitchen. Basically very comfortable.
Can anyone help me?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Carducci]Hello,
I'm looking to rent a nice apartment in Cali, hopefully in a high floor with private balcony, pool or jacuzzi, hot water, kitchen. Basically very comfortable.
Can anyone help me?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Over by the Chippachope mall, there are several high rise apartments, owned by gringo's who rent. About $ 35-40 per night, must better option than a hotel,
Safe area, security etc, balcony etc...
Hey ... any of you guys know someone who gives private Salsa lessons in Cali?
Gracias!
do google search... then type elpais newspaper. loads of condo apartment rentals. if that doesn't work. my other friend is a bodyguard at the goverment office.. he lives in huge apartment complex. his rent is 300u.s w/ all included..3 bedroom. safe area near chipe chappe.. super nice guy to meet..
Bad advice. try this apartment da grenada 14 floor highrise. they rent month by month,, i can get pictures of apartment, they have1 2 3 bedroooms. its located on 8thave N. .
As you do not allow PM's i have to write it hear to reach you.
Hi,
Just read your post abt. apartments.
Is there any chance your buddy knows a fully furnished house in Cali for rent (2 weeks). Eventually with a swimming pool. estrata 5 or up. South or North Cali (we dont mind) just we need 3 bedrooms. (2 would be a minimum). Period : 04 april upto 18 april.
If you know something, i ow you a 6-pack :-) and your buddy a free pussy massage :p
Thanks in advance
[QUOTE=Ricker]Hey ... any of you guys know someone who gives private Salsa lessons in Cali?
Gracias![/QUOTE]
I saw on cybercupido a nice chick that is a dancin instructor in Cali. Maybe that would be 2 hits in one stroke ;) Just check it out Ricker
[QUOTE=MJG Dogs]Over by the Chippachope mall, there are several high rise apartments, owned by gringo's who rent. About $ 35-40 per night, must better option than a hotel,
Safe area, security etc, balcony etc...[/QUOTE]
Those are "gringo" prices. No need to pay over 40 US per night to be sleeping decently and without hassles. For 40 US (included) you have a full rental + a maid that will clean and wash your dirty shirts as well.
Would you settle for lovely 3 bedroom farm.finca house 3 hours from Cali. i can arranged w/ owner the time you arrived. Youll need jeep to find this place, i have that too , no bull just facts.. the owner of jeep family owns farm w/ pool volleyball court bananas ,goats chicas . i can get you good deal on this place... have photos.i can email .
Hey LIP ... send me some fotos ... maybe I'll visit out there in a couple weeks.
Please post the information on the rentals here in the forum.
my email is [email]lostinparadiseme@aol.com[/email]. unable to download pictures here due to resiziing problem.
[QUOTE=Lost In Paradise]Bad advice. try this apartment da grenada 14 floor highrise. they rent month by month,, i can get pictures of apartment, they have1 2 3 bedroooms. its located on 8thave N. .[/QUOTE]
What city is this place? $40 per night? Is that a hotel? Where is the 300 a month?
[QUOTE=I Jags]What city is this place? $40 per night? Is that a hotel? Where is the 300 a month?[/QUOTE]
Jags, all over colombia you can find such places. Colombia is "dirty" cheap !!! No need to think usa pricings !!! Think Colombian. The minimum wage in Colombia is now just over 400.000 Pesos a month. That's converted to US dollars even not US $ 200 / month. So why Pay 75 - 100 $ a day for a bed and breackfast ? You do [b]NOT[/b] pay a toygirl 250.000 Pesos to get laid. that's a "fact" in Colombia. Do you think Colombian man pay that kind of money ?
Think Colombian and your dollar will bring you much further then you can imagine !!!
So when you cannot settle for 40 US / night for a rental ([b]and yes also for a hotel[/b]), move to the next that is willing to accept it.
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Lost in Paradise, No, sorry 3 hours out of Cali is too far buddy. I'm looking for a house "inside" Cali town. (I think you are talking about Armenia). It is Cali where I am looking for. And driving around with a jeep in Colombia is not my kind of 'style' ;). thanks for the advice anyway pawl. maybe I'll visit Armenia in a single day trip by bus. I know it should be a "fun" place.
the local newspaper website under house rentals. whata you see there you like. My friend little Juan can run there and look at it. Juan owes me big favor. If you like creammy on top ill give you Juan home phone #.tell him what you want in house for 2 weeks 3 bedroom 2000 sq foot house.pool,nice area. 24r security,sexy maid.. Your staying 2 weeks right creammy... take the place for month. ill pay the diffrence. and ill rent the room out 40 u.s nite. 3 lovely rooms woow.. happy happy. maybe bull here.. I have a bodygueard for rent those needing one after 4pm at nite for the *****houses . 1 drawback with him. no english. great guy to have watching your back in Cali .
better then sex. whopps had sex in jeep to armenia.
all incllueded chippe chappa area. 1 week miniummm, 30 u.s a day or 800k permonth. the ad reading in [url]www.poorbuthappy.com[/url]
[QUOTE=Lost In Paradise]all incllueded chippe chappa area. 1 week miniummm, 30 u.s a day or 800k permonth. the ad reading in [url]www.poorbuthappy.com[/url][/QUOTE]
I read all those. Un piso no me gusta Lost In Para... . Busco solamente una casa.
I have an internet girly that's in search for one.Today she phoned me and told me found one. The 20st she'll see the place. Though I never met her so I cannot say if she is completely trustworthy. I'll see after that day where i'm up to. I told her 1 Mil COP for 2 weeks is what I wanna pay. She said it is do-able (that's 450 US for the period or 32-33 buck a day :p ) Which i will share with my buddy. So i sleep, have my own place, can screw any bolla without having to proof or pay bribes to guards or receptionists, for 16-17 US / day. And we both will be watching our backs simultaneously. Colombian prices in Colombia. US prices in US. Keep the difference people !! With the difference I will safe, I can screw a lot of pussy. Count 40 - 50 K COP for a shot, that could endup close to 20 pussy passing my pole. so 2 weeks, i'm completely booked and lodged for the price a single guy will pay only his hotel bills.
la vida puede ser muy agradable cuando puede contar con sus dedos jajaja !!!
He can afford 75 u.s anite for Colombia.print a map guys plez of the small towns nearby. lovely emeralds just waiting for you. the Elmerld forrst tours. Make reseavation soon. the rate are cheap now as he builds his webpage. any1 here have webpage skills. good thoughts maybe working deals with luis bring dvd player to trade or sneakers,9 half. you get girl with that .. or rainjacket. Luis has 8year chilld who hasnt seen much u.s.goods. wait til you see luis wife nice ass w/ heels on.... if coffee time here at the office. more to cumm. luis has no digtal camara, its hard to find here,,expensive. no beach here. mountains........... tits all over
Why Jackson doesn't censure you is beyond me. You post nothing but spam.
Ricker: I can get you a referral for private salsa lessons in Cali (just returned from there this week). PM me.
All: Prices are rising, the IVA (sales tax) is now 16% and the American peso only buys 2200 Colombian pesos nowadays. Taxis from airport want at least 38K (about $17) to town (I have local friends to pick me but wanted to pass on this outrage). Colombia is no bargain anymore, although Cali is certainly cheaper than Cartagena (where 100K has become the benchmark for a few hours).
A couple pictures from this week in Cali are attached (no other details will be forthcoming so don't bother asking).
[QUOTE=Surfer]Why Jackson doesn't censure you is beyond me. You post nothing but spam.[/QUOTE]Did you stay at a hotel or apartment building? I like the tall building where you stayed. I see it in the pictures. Can you recommend me the place?
Can you tell me where you stayed at?
It looks like a tall apartment building or is t a hotel?
I would really like to stay at an apartment, its more affordable.
Thanks
i just wanna fullfil my dreams openning a single, horney man tour of Armenia.if you guys are in Colombia and near Armenia vist with or without luis help.. have a beer or joint with luis , pick is brain were the action is.
Well ... luckily for este gringo (me) ... I get to spend some time in Cali again.
Cali was my hangout until I discovered Medellin ... before the gringo stampede into there ... thanks Aussie. Quick note though, Medellin or Colombia is still a dangerous place.
Guys feel safe there in Aussie's cocoon ... Mansion ... but once out of the cocoon, be careful ... just had a buddy mugged in el Centro ... beat up.
Anyway ... sorry for digressing to Medellin.
Just back from Cali ... and I have to say, I forgot how friendly the people are there ... after 2 nights, I already have a handful of chicas phone numbers.
Looking forward to spending bunches more time there again ... Anti-freeze, te llamare esta noche ... Surfer, hope to see you there too soon.
Take care amigos ... by the way, is that dude Ramon still out and about in Cali ... the guide?
If so, anyone have his number? I'd like to say Hola. Gracias.
Señor Ricker,
Don't fret too much about paradise lost. All it would take is one gringo getting whacked in Medellin and then it would be paradise again. The Colombianos wouldn't put up with hordes of gringos fucking their hot paisas forever and sooner or later someone is going to fuck the wrong chica belonging to the wrong narco and then it would be all over. Aussie's cocoon is perhaps just delaying the inevitable because he can't accomodate the entire influx of gringos headed to Medellin the price increases from $40 to $70 USD per night is proof of that.
Armenia..... i will pay bus fare to Armenia and beers for having luis meet you at the bus station. i need camara to see 2 bedroom apartment gated condo community fully loaded pool ,washing machne, coomputer internet,chica friendlly. 22$ a day. luis has 30 girls or so wanting there photos taken. luis has the phone#s of girls of date of photo shoot if you can snap superb pictures .. contact luis at 57 315 421 8925. Surfer dude you like apples ..how you like these apples.. 75$ a day at medelin mansion ja ja ja
enjoy!
$Bill
Karen was beautiful. She cost me about $150K but stayed for a few hours. She was hot but she had excessive hair on her upper legs that she should have waxed.
Ramon got his cut of $50K from her. He says he does not get a cut but she says he does.
Enjoy!
$Bill
Don't remember much about this chica, but it was like $35K-50K for an hour and the casa is in south Cali (near the intersection of Autopisa Sur and Cra. 50.)
She looked much better in person than in her photo. Nice girls there for the most part.
$Bill
ps - non nude photo - sorry!
Here are a couple of samples of the chicas from this club. I did the black chick with the white shirt. I met her at the casino at Chippichappe mall one night. 3 years ago I met her (the same girl) in a casino in Bogota at 8:30 in the morning. Ended up getting her that night before she went to work at Casablanca (in Bogota).
The other girls posted are girls working there. The one with the big tits was friends of the girl with the white shirt. Another photo of the girl with the white shirt was just posted under the post with Ramon. I introduced them to see if Ramon can help her out with his "friends." Can not remember her name though... think it was Monica or something with a "M." I had her cell phone number and threw it away 24 hours before seeing her 3 years later. Funny how life works. The number would not have worked but I would have had her name and handwriting to show her.
Enjoy
$Bill
See the Medellin, Aussie Greg's Medellin Mansion, and Cartagena sections in the next few days for additional photos. It takes me a while to rotate and re-size the photos.
I also posted some in the Panama City section, and Panama photo section today.
Let me know if you like them! (via PM of course)
If any of you are approached by Miguel (or Mike) on Av Sexta (near the Hotel Don Jaime), please be careful. He sells flowers but will try to sell you other stuff. I have no problem with the other stuff, but I don't want to get in trouble for dealing with the wrong guy...
The police have a camera set up on the corner near the Don Jaime and I have been told that they watch who he deals with.
Once he knows you, he will try to sink his claws into you for every penny he can make. He really is nothing but trouble. Sorry to say that but I generally want to watch out for you guys more than someone that has "financial" plans for my fellow mongers.
BEWARE BROTHERS of this guy.
$Bill
[QUOTE=Dollar Bill]If any of you are approached by Miguel (or Mike) on Av Sexta (near the Hotel Don Jaime), please be careful. He sells flowers but will try to sell you other stuff. I have no problem with the other stuff, but I don't want to get in trouble for dealing with the wrong guy...
The police have a camera set up on the corner near the Don Jaime and I have been told that they watch who he deals with.
Once he knows you, he will try to sink his claws into you for every penny he can make. He really is nothing but trouble. Sorry to say that but I generally want to watch out for you guys more than someone that has "financial" plans for my fellow mongers.
BEWARE BROTHERS of this guy.
$Bill[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the advice D Bill; Guys like YOU is what we need in here !! Great reports and pics !!
Thanks for the info Dollar Bill.
I met this Miguel (or Mike) on Avenu Sexta (near the Hotel Don Jaime). Selling flowers and making recommendations on casas. He didn't seem harmfull to me. Good to tell about other experiences. And about the the camera set up on the corner near the Don Jaime.
Maybe you want to share why Gustavo, porter of Don Jaime is NOT on your good side anymore! Didn't seem a bad guy to me.
I guess you are right and that as a rule of thumb you should never trust any pimp. Also on La Sexta I was offered "other stuff" by a number of junks. Creepy guys.
Well finally around 9:00pm I was able to hit the street, and asked the driver for a house and we went to a place called el faraon 2 beers (poker) 10kcop, around 8 to 10 chicas, mostly 5´s and 6´s quoted 20KCOP for "el ratico" about 20 min from a girl called vicky and she also quoted 100KCOP for "amanecida" all nighter, but they closed to hit other place and we went to aplace called kathy o casablanca, is in the south part of cali all cab drivers know the place. is like huge corner house, nice tables, I am a newbie at this, and I found amusing their call system, as soon as you cross the doorman rings the bell all the chicas come to your table and intruduce. well same deal all of them on their 20´s but nothing great about 6 girls mostly 5´s and one 8 corona 9kcop and service 20k it was late so off I went with the 8 her name was cata, rooms are clean but service was rushed and she was concerned with the cell phone, and I am jus doing this for a while yadada yadada CBJ, I really did not want FS so she took care of business and off I went, the doorman metioned that they open at 6:00pm and close around 8:00am, and the quality gets better ond thu,fr,sat, well this is my first report, will report from las profesinales tomorrow.
Thanks
Hey guys ... a buddy of mine is going to Cali ... he needs an English speaking guide ... I think Ramon, the master pimp would be great for him.
Anyone have Ramon's telephone number???
Thanks.
I have met Ramon several times, though never "hired" him. I HAVE heard stories of him charging STEEP tariffs to guide newbies who have no sense of values in Cali.
Ricker: another idea if your friend MUST have an English speaker (you know who I'd reccommend if he does not require a bi lingual guide) is Andres. MUCH younger and hipper than Ramon, and not a chulo at all, but looks like a great wingman for chasing non-pros AND guiding your friend to the puterias too. Ramon has a reputation-for leading sex tourists-which would NOT endear you to local nonpros at all (quite the contrary-kind of like staying at the Medellin Mansion and trying to bring "nice" girls there) . NOT advised.
Bill might have Andres number. I had it long ago (I had debated taking him as guide over to the beaches past Buenaventura but decided the better of it). I could maybe find it if you think a youngger wingman is more suitabvle for your buddy. Suerte.
Sure ... would love to get in touch with Andres ... my buddy speaks no Espanol.
If anyone has his contact info, I'd appreciate it ... thanks.
Though, not even sure my buddy will be coming anymore ... things are heating up with terrorist activities with elections going on in Colombia.
Cali airport was closed the other evening when an explosive device was found ... he getting nervous ... especially being a non-spanish newbie.
Rightly so.
Hello boys,
If somebody can explain to me what is called $35K and all other code.
Thanks
See the line up above that says Abbreviations.
WT69
[QUOTE=Wenicam]Hello boys,
If somebody can explain to me what is called $35K and all other code.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
I asked my taxista / amigo in Cali what the deal is for Semana Santa ... second week in April ... he said most places will be closed on Thurs and Friday ... but the rest of the week will be OK.
Hi, Cali section has disappointed me. Many posts about clubs.
Reading this section I imagine Cuba is better because there are many girls friends.
Is it easy to find a GF in Cali? I am 50 old, can I find 25 old GF?
Thanks
[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]Hi, Cali section has disappointed me. Many posts about clubs.
Reading this section I imagine Cuba is better because there are many girls friends.
Is it easy to find a GF in Cali? I am 50 old, can I find 25 old GF?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Cali is not so bad, but is nothing like Cartagena. You can find chicas in cali, you just need to know where to go, have to speak spanish and always be on your guard. Cali has some very rough areas.
I'll be heading into town manana. Anybody around looking for a partner in crime let me know. My faithful mongering pal bailed out on me last night so it's a solo voyage and my first trip to Cali. I've been to MDE and CTG previously and speak basic spanish so hopefully I'll find my way around. I'm looking forward to the adventure. PM me with a colombian cell number if you want to grab a beer. Peace my fellow mongers.
[QUOTE=MJG Dogs]Cali is not so bad, but is nothing like Cartagena. You can find chicas in cali, you just need to know where to go, have to speak spanish and always be on your guard. Cali has some very rough areas.[/QUOTE]
MJG Dogs,
thanks for your advice. I think Catagena is more touristic town than Cali, the prices for fucking are higher, less girl friends and more prostitution.
Do I make a mistake? I like a girl friend for some days.
I speak spanish.
thanks for some info.
[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]MJG Dogs,
thanks for your advice. I think Catagena is more touristic town than Cali, the prices for fucking are higher, less girl friends and more prostitution.
Do I make a mistake? I like a girl friend for some days.
I speak spanish.
thanks for some info.[/QUOTE]
No you don't make a mistake. If you find a chica and you like her and you are happy with her, then more power to you. Cali is less money for fucking and for restraunts, hotels in cali, are kind of expensive though.
happy hunting my friend
Hi, I don't know Colombia and I'd like to know if it is easy to get ass fucking and blowjob.
Is it easy or is it hard to persuade her?
thanks
From my experience in Cali it is almost impossible to get a BBBJ in a casa,, everytime I went ALL CBJ,, UNLESS you get yourself a novia and then she will obliged to give you a BBBJ. and even then there just "OK" not like the DR,, but its a start at least.
Peace Mongers
[QUOTE=Miamiheatluver]From my experience in Cali it is almost impossible to get a BBBJ in a casa,,
Peace Mongers[/QUOTE]
But is it a problem in Cali or in every places of Colombia?
[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]But is it a problem in Cali or in every places of Colombia?[/QUOTE]
you can get BBBJ in Colombia. The semi-pro's are more open to it, than the pro chicas.
[QUOTE=MJG Dogs]you can get BBBJ in Colombia. The semi-pro's are more open to it, than the pro chicas.[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry my guys, I like to understand well!
When I red some threads in this forum I understand the colombian girls are hot, very hot. They love sex.... etc. etc.
Then when I ask if the colombian girls likes to give BBBJ, you answer me that the
the semi-pro and the pro give BBBJ.
I'm sorry but I don't understand!
I think there are many, many countries with more hot girls. Many countries with hotter girls. Do I make a mistake?
I'd like to understand well, please.
Thanks
Amigo ... the pros aren't into the BBBJ as much ... they are busy with many guys ... don't like all that in thier mouths.
The semi-pros ... girlfriends ... chicas that like you ... of course Colombianas are hot ... the'll take care of you.
It's obvious.
Even some of the guys who have lived there for several years are moving on to greener pastures (literally). One is THE man in Cali but not for much longer; but I won't steal his thunder.
Ricker got lucky and found a gem but he is a smoothtalking, Spanish speaking guy with a glamorous job. For short term visitors, Medellin and Cartagena are way more user friendly and attractive. I only go back to Cali because I have developed friends there but it is hardly comfortable for foreign tourists or a mecca of mongering (especially this week as Semana Santa brings out religiosity, not hedonism).
Surfer ... you forgot ... GOOD LOOKING.
jajajajaja.
Si senor ... everything you said about Cali and then some ... definitely not a Cartagena friendly city for gringos ... much easier in Cartagena.
Suerte!
[QUOTE=Ricker]The semi-pros ... girlfriends ... chicas that like you ... of course Colombianas are hot ... the'll take care of you.
It's obvious.[/QUOTE]
Ok amigo, I now understand better but can you tell me (in Colombia) the meaning of "semi-pros".
I am a good looking man. I am 50 old, I speak spanish and I am enough resourceful. If I will reach Cali or other colombian towns, how much time I will need to get a girlfriend?
oh about 22 to 23 seconds ...... really amigo, can't answer a question like that ... just go, relax, enjoy ...... imaginate.
OK guys,
I am done with Cali. After 3 years here, I feel like I need to get the Hell out of here.
Here's a couple of raw facts about the city that you may want to factor in.
Cali is good for its women, and bad for its men. And from these women, only the declared *****s are worth your attention. 95% of so-called girlfriends are mostly gold-diggers that use you (Ricker I truly hope your girl to be within the other 5%). if you come to Cali for 2 weeks to get a girlfriend in here, forget about it. You will most probably meet a woman that will give you the impression that you succeeded, but that's her living.
As far as the men goes (no one ever talks about them), they are the most uneducated, unrefined pieces of scum walking that earth. They have no respect for anything.
The real problem in Colombia is social. Whenever you get into troubles, the only way out is not through Justice (even with a small caps j), it's going through "areglar a la mala". This is so sad for Colombia (and especially Cali), but we have to respect that as hosts to that country. Here is basically the far west. Whatch out not to get into trouble, because when trouble comes you go.
And another downside about Cali is the following: too many gringos! Although some of you I've come to love dearly, others I just look from a distance and watch, a complete economy of parasites is starting to orbit around you like in Cartagena. An entire "suck as much as you can from the gringo before he goes" economy is building-up. Well, I didn't come to Colombia to meet Americans (although from time to time it's good), and when the gringo throws $150K for an half-hour fuck to an average looking O, he's wrecking the market not only for himself, but for everyone.
So, in a couple of weeks, I will be moving out of Cali for better lands.
Happy hunted while you think you're hunting!
Freeze
hey Freeze ... wish you luck amigo! ... Remember, I've been dating these latinas for many years .. I may not know much .. but I am good at finding the "5 percent" good ones (i believe the percentage to be much higher though) . Suerte!
[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]I'm sorry my guys, I like to understand well!
When I red some threads in this forum I understand the colombian girls are hot, very hot. They love sex.... etc. etc.
Then when I ask if the colombian girls likes to give BBBJ, you answer me that the
the semi-pro and the pro give BBBJ.
I'm sorry but I don't understand!
I think there are many, many countries with more hot girls. Many countries with hotter girls. Do I make a mistake?
I'd like to understand well, please.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Where are you from? Your English suggests it is not your native language.
[QUOTE=Escort King]Where are you from? Your English suggests it is not your native language.[/QUOTE]
You are right I am roman, in fact I speak better spanish. ;)
Why?
[QUOTE=Antifreeze]OK guys,
So, in a couple of weeks, I will be moving out of Cali for better lands.
Freeze[/QUOTE]
Antifreeze,
Can you tell us what are better lands, please?
thanks
Hey guys,
I know its la Semana Santa, and everything is closed today. But, a friend and I are here in the city, and would like to know of anything to do today other than el casino hollywood at chipichate LOL.
If anybody is in town and wants to hang out, please PM. We are in town until martes. We have checked out a couple of casas, and so far they have been alright. Our first night we checked out frescadas flores which is in the "mansion rosada". The girls varied from 6s to 9s. A couple of smoking girls, and a couple of decent ones. The precio was a little high tho. 130k por un media hora, and 190k por un hora. Or to take to the hotel, its you have to pay the casa, and you can talk a girl into 300k for 3 horas. Not the greatest deal, but these women hustle.
Also checked out Club Escosces. The quality I thought was considerably lower. Id say from 4s to 6or 7 tops. But the prices were more reasonable. In house prices were going for 100k por media hora, and then you had to pay 40k house fee. I got one of the girls numbers, and called the next day. She stayed for 2. 5 horas por 160k. I thought that was the best deal. She was about a 6 tho. But she really knew how to take care of me (vs la primera chica)
Anyways, hope this is helpful. I hear everything is shut down on Friday anyways. I'm here with a friend, and was wondering if anybody wanted to tour the city or just hang out and grab a cerveza. PM! We are just a couple of laid back guys that are just trying to have some fun. : )
Happy Easter and happy hunting!
[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]You are right I am roman, in fact I speak better spanish. ;)
Why?[/QUOTE]
just the way you choose words....
I'm not sure where "Roman" is,, are you Italian or from Romania?
Just curious.
[QUOTE=Miamiheatluver]I'm not sure where "Roman" is,, are you Italian or from Romania?
Just curious.[/QUOTE]
Roman.... I live in Rome.
I am moving to Pereira. I got a finca there where I can live with my two horses, my loving girlfriend and in a better land than Cali.
I got so tired of the social aspect in Cali, that I'd figure that I'd live in a finca with little neighbourgs.
I will most probably start a forum on Pereira as I will want to become the king of Pereira. As a matter of fact, Pereira will most probably become a hot destination as American will fly there 4 times a week directly from Miami next year. So, I assume that many of you will want to start expanding their horizons through new destinations...
Freeze
[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]Antifreeze,
Can you tell us what are better lands, please?
thanks[/QUOTE]
FREEZE ... well, looks like we will be neighbors amigo ... as you know, mi novia es de Pereira. Nice hanging w you and your girl the other night ... you guys are great together ... hablamos pronto.
I think I did a small report on Pereira last year. I staid only 2 nights but the amount of casa's seemed endless for this rather small city.
I hope to visit you there soon, Antifreeze.
Good luck Antifreeze.
and hope to be your first customer in your penthouse in Pereira ....
MR
[QUOTE=Antifreeze]I am moving to Pereira. I got a finca there where I can live with my two horses, my loving girlfriend and in a better land than Cali.
Freeze[/QUOTE]
Is it better Pereira or Armenia? How much it costs to fuck girls from the casas (st and lt)?
Is it easy to find a girlfirend in a little time?
thanks
I think Cartegena would be perfect for you Fox .. girlfriend very fast .. especially with your smooth talking.
[QUOTE=Ricker]I think Cartegena would be perfect for you Fox .. girlfriend very fast .. especially with your smooth talking.[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry but I don't like to reach Cartagena because it is too much marketable.
After reading some Cali reports I've decided to definately check it out but I'm curious why Cali doesn't seem to generate the buzz that Medellin does, that could be a good thing but wonder why. Are the girls not as attractive?....i heard the girls here have more of an indian look like girls of Caracas rather than the caucasian Paisa....since when is that a bad thing.
Also has anyone had any experience with a casa called "Millieum" I believe it is near the soccer stadium
Hey Rob H ....
I've been to both cities quite a bit ...
IMHO ... both cities have absolutely beautiful women ... like you said, Medellin having, in general, the lighter complexion chicas ... I read that years ago ... to work the sugar-cane fields / other crops, African-slaves were shipped into Cali by the Spanish ... therefore the darker skin from the mix ... but BEAUTIFUL for sure.
But ... Medellin is definitely a more beautiful, more pleasant city as far as cleanliness, climate, metro system, etc.
I would say, in general, the Paisas (Medellin chicas), regular normal chicas are more complicated / drama type chicas than in Cali.
Cali has more of a care-free type personality than Medellin ... very friendly people.
Cali used to be the popular destination of the Gringo and now it has moved to Medellin ... but that will run it's course also and Cartagena will always be Monger central ... IMHO.
Caracas / Venezuela chicas which I know you have lots of experience are of a totally different flavor .... Caracas being much more of a "sophisticated" atmosphere than Cali.
Suerte amigo!
Ricker
Is there a hotspot in the world you have not been to? You certainly opened the doors to Med. and Caracas for me so your 2/2 so far. Cali is definately next.
Caracas has the most beautiful women in the world IMHO and I always have fun in San Ignacio but its gotten to the point down there where its not safe to walk even a few blocks in the more secure neighborhood in the city or else I'd spend my whole time there.
Monger Central... I am sure Cartagena loves that - they should work it into the tourist advertising
just as is happening now in Rio, EVENTUALLY the uppercrust will tire of people talking about sex tours to their city and there will be a crackdown. As more upscale tourists begin to trickle in, the dollars of the Laguito sex tourists will be much less necessary to the local economy.
Unlike in Brasil, Prositution is NOT technically legal in Colombia (like SO many Colombian laws, it is just not enforced currently).
It's here Surf. It seems to have started about one year ago. I have actually been stopped on the street less than a block from the apartment that I have owned for over 2 years in Laguito and been asked for my cedula.
The police are actively interested in preventing any kind of illegal contact with girls under 18.
The few "normal" girls in Laguito will not make any kind of eye contact with me.
Many buildings in Laguito will not allow visitors anymore. Open solicitation on the street is not allowed, and girls have been arrested. The Colombian family has always been the big spender here. We have been tolerated but less so now.
[QUOTE=Antifreeze]I am moving to Pereira. I got a finca there where I can live with my two horses, my loving girlfriend and in a better land than Cali.
Freeze[/QUOTE]Do you have any lodging info. in Pereira?
I am planning to visit there 2-3 weeks & need some inexpensive & safe place to stay.
Thanks in advance,
Perf
Tom33 & Surfer,
Interesting stuff, a strong economy and a growing tourist trade are sure killers for the "Gringo sextrade". I was not aware that prostitution was not legal in Colombia. Those factors alone are going to drive up prices. Expect to see the laws more strictly enforced with the "coming" goldrush of Baby Boomer retirees travelling the world with there AW's
In Miraflores (Lima) within the last 6 months we saw a similar scenario. Even though prostitution is perfectly legal here, They started making repeated roundups! They would have a "Cattle Truck" pull up in front of "Pizza Street" and just start grabbing girls out of restaurants, clubs and right off the street. It was rumored that they would take them down to the beach in a neighboring district and dump them off. This would go on several times a night.
Old Biddie's would write the ex-pat forum everytime they saw a old gringo walking and holding hands with his young wife/girlfriend.
Normal Latin girls are very aware of the "puta" stigma they acquire when seen with a older gringo. For some reason this does not apply when the gringo is 50 and the chica is over 35.
Another reason I believe is the "Chavez Effect". I have a friend living and working in VEN. and even though he has a hot young girlfriend in Lima, He does not even get looks from the village girls.
Myself, I have been living in a small city cerca Lima and find it very strange indeed. Eyes follow me down the streets, gang members send out there signal(whistle) and the only time I make contact with young ladies is when I am walking the babe magnet(Shar Pei).
Well, I am looking forward to alot of interesting changes this year, a number of us are discussing moving to Colombia. I must say I envy you Tom33 for having Uribe around.
LB
perfectSW,
Hotel Pereira (011-57-4-333-6813 or 011-57-4-335-2217).
Clean, management is friendly and trustworthy (they even returned the rings that my girlfriend had lost 2 weeks ago when she went there last weekend). Has hot water, television with cable, girl friendly. You will pay between $30.000 and $45.000 Colombian pesos a night there.
Calle 25 #7-10,
El Lago
I went at the Saratoma before (downtown Pereira in front of Plaza Bolivar). This hotel is more like a big chain - comparable to the inter-Continental in Cali, but more expensive - more around between $120,000 and $160,000 a night depending if it is the week or weekend.
See ya in Pereira
Surfer must be talking about himself when he describes the backlash by the good citizens of Cartagena against sex tourists such as himself. So what are you going to do about it Surfer? Gonna keep showing up in CTG with pockets full of pesos and your knowall attitude. I hope you're part of the first sweep.
To those of you wondering if this is the beginning of another flame war, ask Surfer. He recently, out of the blue, referred to me as 'buttbuddy' in Nibu's Colombia section. And so, here we go again.
That's why I call Surfer, 'Keeper of the Flame'.
Don
Are we supposed to get excited about all the drama on the ISG lately ... and these silly flame wars?
Better things to be doing.
Suerte!
yawn...........................
zzzzz...........................
boring..........................
I'm a well seasoned traveler/monger with experiance from the Dominican Republic scene and I've finally convinced a couple of my closet friends whom I've traveled with in the past to venture into Cali. It was tough sell due to the history of Colombia and the Escobar era ..lol.but after showing them a few pics from many of the ISG posters here, they have seen the light. I'm planning to be there from May 26th- June 1st. If anyone is going to be there at that time I'de really appreciate it if I can hook up with you. I'm 35 yrs old and I may be travelling with 2 other guys that are also in my age range. We are not really into the glitzy 5 star hotel scene and would rather be in a clean, safe rental or hotel that is guest friendly and not too far from the action on Sexta. Our spanglish is not the best but we've managed to get by in D.R for quite a while. Any suggestions from anyone is gladly welcomed. thanks guys ! oh..and if anyone is planning on flying out of the NYC area, JFK to Cali is around $500 non-stop on those dates.
Sky
I didnt mean closet friends..lol..I meant closest..haha.
Uhffff. Bad dates. Everything will be closed that weekend for the election. No liquor.. I'd change my plans if I were you.
[QUOTE=Skyjuice]I'm a well seasoned traveler/monger with experiance from the Dominican Republic scene and I've finally convinced a couple of my closet friends whom I've traveled with in the past to venture into Cali. It was tough sell due to the history of Colombia and the Escobar era ..lol.but after showing them a few pics from many of the ISG posters here, they have seen the light. I'm planning to be there from May 26th- June 1st. If anyone is going to be there at that time I'de really appreciate it if I can hook up with you. I'm 35 yrs old and I may be travelling with 2 other guys that are also in my age range. We are not really into the glitzy 5 star hotel scene and would rather be in a clean, safe rental or hotel that is guest friendly and not too far from the action on Sexta. Our spanglish is not the best but we've managed to get by in D.R for quite a while. Any suggestions from anyone is gladly welcomed. thanks guys ! oh..and if anyone is planning on flying out of the NYC area, JFK to Cali is around $500 non-stop on those dates.
Sky[/QUOTE]
Escobar was from Envigado, a suburb of Medellin.
I would not recommend Cali for your first trip to Colombia. It is easily the most dangerous larger city in the country. Cartagena would be a much better choice.
Hey Guys..thanks for the advice..I actully visited the cartagena board and read up on some of the action there and it seems like the best choice for me and my buddies. I'll just go there instead and change the travel dates for after the elections. Anyone knows when the elections are over?
thanks again, fellas.
Sky
The election is May 28. Alcohol resumes flowing, I think, on midnight of the 29th.
Well, it's been more than a week since my Cali trip. I spent a little more than two weeks there. This was my third trip to Colombia, having been to MDE and CTG on previous trips. I was off to an inauspicious start as my traveling partner bailed out on me 2 nights before the trip began, so it became a solo mission. But as luck would have it, I ran into Ricker and his sexy novia my first night at the Cali Plaza Hotel. He introduced me to Antifreeze and his friend "W".
Cali Plaza is a nice place run by a cool guy from Memphis named Claude. He wasn't there when I checked in or I probably would've stayed put. But at 120, 000 / night I decided to look for cheaper digs. I found the Apartestudio Sunriver on 9A at 14n (next to the Art Galeria Restaurante). At 450, 000 for 15 days it was a bargain: clean, in a nicer part of town and only 3 blocks from 6th Ave. My unit had a small kitchen with private bathroom, but as I discovered later -- no hot water! But for $13 US / night what could I expect?
As both Freeze and Ricker were busy with their hot girlfriends, I grabbed W and we hit the town. After several beers at some joint on 6th, we ended up at a smoke filled Club with a live band called Kukara Makara (sp? ). We ordered the large botella de rum (a mistake! ) and proceeded to get hammered. Unfortunately the selection of available and attractive single women was lacking, as all the hotties were with novios. So we drank, we skulked around and we drank some more. I ran into a threesome of amigos (1 guy, 2 chicas -- one was cute). Said hola, chatted up the dude (ella no es tu novia? No, amigos. Baille con ella. Bueno! ). Started dancing, drank some more, called W over with the botella. Went home alone at 2am, but my cell rang as I was getting into bed (gotta have that cell! ), it was Carolina from the club. Donde estas tu? Cual hotel. ? Cali Plaza mi amor. Ven! She shows up 10 minutes later with her fat friend from the club who I convince to leave as her friend is in good hands. I'm totally wrecked from polishing off most of the bottle and lack of sleep (this is my first night). Carolina is too. We make out, I attempt to get the jeans off but they're going nowhere. I'm grinding my wood into her to no avail. There will be no happy ending tonight. She falls asleep with her jeans still on. I'm buck naked.
To be continued.
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that somebody will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.[/blue][/size]
Gringo Loco - what a great post... very well written.
Hey amigo ...
Nice seeing you in Cali ... my novia told me she ran into you on Sexta before you left. She thinks you're a cool gringo.
We had cervezas the other night at Douglas Bar on Sexta with the guys ... your running partner "W" said you had a good time and that you have mucho energy for the chicas.
Hope see ya again soon ... we're heading to Medellin in a couple weeks for a visit.
Hasta Luego
A lot of people I meet have something working for them. Although most of us have one common characteristic (the desire to conquier the other gender), most of us have different approaches.
"W" has a cute little face that makes girls go crazy. Ricker is generous, genuine and has a really good hearth. Surfer is so frickin organized towards making the girl feel really special, that they do end-up feeling special. Screwed-up threats the pricesses like *****s and they end-up liking it.
Well, I've rarely seen someone approaching women like Gringo Loco. Have him solo into a bar with 10 isolated preys, and he will find a way to get upclose and personal, at which point the deed is done.
Thumbs-up to you Gringo Loco.
Freeze
Pereira, Colombia
ricker and freeze, muchas gracias por todo amigos. i was somewhat nervous going to cali solo even though i'd already been to cartagena and medellin (as well as cuba muchas veces). running into ricker my first night out was a godsend, even though i didn't see him again in cali. i know we'll cross paths again. but ricker's intro to freeze and w really got my trip rolling. freeze allowed me use of his office (with high speed internet and voip phone), drove me around town in his old jeep to various points of interest and proved to be good company and a good friend. and since freeze was often busy working or tending to his beautiful novia, w became my partner in crime. anyway, back to the story.
so i wake up with a pounding headache, a throbbing hard-on and carolina from kukara makara next to me still in her jeans. not a good combination. i reach over and kiss her neck and manage to get my hand under her shirt. she moans, but not in pleasure. she's no better off than me. after repeated thrusts and parries i realize that those pants are not coming off. i waste the majority of my first full day in cali enguayavado (severely hungover). carolina finally leaves and i eventually stagger outside into the afternoon sun. i manage to eat my first meal of the day at around five in the afternoon and then almost lose it while checking into to my room at sunriver. la recepcionista must have been wondering why i was sweating so profusely and continually stepping outside! obviously i'm not a drinker, and consuming several cervezas and almost media botella de rum just wrecked me. i'm drinking bottle after bottle of water trying to rehydrate. eventually i make it to freeze's office where i run into w. "so, where've you been?" i tell them about carolina coming to my room. "how was she?" well i reply sheepishly, i couldn't tell you. "so, this girl who you just met comes to your hotel after 2am and you didn't bang her?" no. i guess she wanted to be the good girl last night. we all laugh. i head back to my new place and manage to get another hour of sleep.
i wake up to the setting sun feeling somewhat rejuvenated. time to take care of business! armed with my lists from world traveler and fido dido (thanks guys) i head down to la sexta and wait for a young hip looking taxista to drive by. "sabes donde esta dr. amor?" i ask him. "si," he replies with a grin. "vamos." dr. amor is really 2 houses connected to eachother. the place is large, clean and well run. a well oiled machine. you enter into a large sitting area with several sofas where the girls present themselves. there were at least a dozen available girls at that moment. i select a sexy looking triguena (olive skinned) girl who brings me to another more private sitting area where we chat for a moment, i rub her bare leg and start to feel the pressure building. she brings me to the cashier where i pay 38,000 mil for an hour. i'm handed a white towel folded up with 2 condoms inside which i promptly drop on the floor. this elicits some laughter from the other chicas standing around who i had not selected. my girl picks them up and we're off to the room which is when i realize just how big this place is. i buy a water and ask my girl if she's thirsty. she declines..... (maybe she's just waiting to drink my leche instead i wonder?). we get naked and her body is tight with a flat stomach, nice ass and moderately sized tits. i have her give me a massage, but as she rubs my balls from behind my frustration with carolina (jeans girl) quickly becomes evident in my throbbing dick. at least i'll get to use it this time i chuckle to myself! i roll over and my chica starts teasing me with her tongue, lower and lower.... down to the base of my cock and then to my balls. she reaches for a condom but i stop her. "puedes chuparme sin condom?" i ask her. "pues.... no es el costumbre por aca..... pero....." ahhhhh.... sometimes a little spanish and a smile go a long way. we have a good session. i tip her 10,000 for the condomless blowjob, shower and i'm on my way. "yo w," i say into my cell in the back of a taxi. "where you at dog?" i'm meeting freeze and his girlfriend for dinner. want to join us? "sure", i reply. where are you coming from? he asks. "i just left the *****house", i say. "dr. love." ah, la clinica del amor. good place. meet us at cafe gardel on 6th at 14th. "later."
[QUOTE=Antifreeze]A lot of people I meet have something working for them. Although most of us have one common characteristic (the desire to conquier the other gender), most of us have different approaches.
"W" has a cute little face that makes girls go crazy. Ricker is generous, genuine and has a really good hearth. Surfer is so frickin organized towards making the girl feel really special, that they do end-up feeling special. Screwed-up threats the pricesses like *****s and they end-up liking it.
Well, I've rarely seen someone approaching women like Gringo Loco. Have him solo into a bar with 10 isolated preys, and he will find a way to get upclose and personal, at which point the deed is done.
Thumbs-up to you Gringo Loco.
Freeze
Pereira, Colombia[/QUOTE]
Sounds like you guuys had a great time and enjoyed each others company... always good to have a couple of other mongers along with you...
[quote=gringo loco]ricker and freeze, muchas gracias por todo amigos. i was somewhat nervous going to cali solo even though i'd already been to cartagena and medellin (as well as cuba muchas veces). running into ricker my first night out was a godsend, even though i didn't see him again in cali. i know we'll cross paths again. but ricker's intro to freeze and w really got my trip rolling. freeze allowed me use of his office (with high speed internet and voip phone), drove me around town in his old jeep to various points of interest and proved to be good company and a good friend. and since freeze was often busy working or tending to his beautiful novia, w became my partner in crime. anyway, back to the story.
so i wake up with a pounding headache, a throbbing hard-on and carolina from kukara makara next to me still in her jeans. not a good combination. i reach over and kiss her neck and manage to get my hand under her shirt. she moans, but not in pleasure. she's no better off than me. after repeated thrusts and parries i realize that those pants are not coming off. i waste the majority of my first full day in cali enguayavado (severely hungover). carolina finally leaves and i eventually stagger outside into the afternoon sun. i manage to eat my first meal of the day at around five in the afternoon and then almost lose it while checking into to my room at sunriver. la recepcionista must have been wondering why i was sweating so profusely and continually stepping outside! obviously i'm not a drinker, and consuming several cervezas and almost media botella de rum just wrecked me. i'm drinking bottle after bottle of water trying to rehydrate. eventually i make it to freeze's office where i run into w. "so, where've you been?" i tell them about carolina coming to my room. "how was she?" well i reply sheepishly, i couldn't tell you. "so, this girl who you just met comes to your hotel after 2am and you didn't bang her?" no. i guess she wanted to be the good girl last night. we all laugh. i head back to my new place and manage to get another hour of sleep.
i wake up to the setting sun feeling somewhat rejuvenated. time to take care of business! armed with my lists from world traveler and fido dido (thanks guys) i head down to la sexta and wait for a young hip looking taxista to drive by. "sabes donde esta dr. amor?" i ask him. "si," he replies with a grin. "vamos." dr. amor is really 2 houses connected to eachother. the place is large, clean and well run. a well oiled machine. you enter into a large sitting area with several sofas where the girls present themselves. there were at least a dozen available girls at that moment. i select a sexy looking triguena (olive skinned) girl who brings me to another more private sitting area where we chat for a moment, i rub her bare leg and start to feel the pressure building. she brings me to the cashier where i pay 38,000 mil for an hour. i'm handed a white towel folded up with 2 condoms inside which i promptly drop on the floor. this elicits some laughter from the other chicas standing around who i had not selected. my girl picks them up and we're off to the room which is when i realize just how big this place is. i buy a water and ask my girl if she's thirsty. she declines..... (maybe she's just waiting to drink my leche instead i wonder?). we get naked and her body is tight with a flat stomach, nice ass and moderately sized tits. i have her give me a massage, but as she rubs my balls from behind my frustration with carolina (jeans girl) quickly becomes evident in my throbbing dick. at least i'll get to use it this time i chuckle to myself! i roll over and my chica starts teasing me with her tongue, lower and lower.... down to the base of my cock and then to my balls. she reaches for a condom but i stop her. "puedes chuparme sin condom?" i ask her. "pues.... no es el costumbre por aca..... pero....." ahhhhh.... sometimes a little spanish and a smile go a long way. we have a good session. i tip her 10,000 for the condomless blowjob, shower and i'm on my way. "yo w," i say into my cell in the back of a taxi. "where you at dog?" i'm meeting freeze and his girlfriend for dinner. want to join us? "sure", i reply. where are you coming from? he asks. "i just left the *****house", i say. "dr. love." ah, la clinica del amor. good place. meet us at cafe gardel on 6th at 14th. "later."[/quote]
now 20 buck or so for the trip... got to love the prices....
Yep, Dr Amor is a good solid option in Cali. I always got good service there.
So I settle into my routine, such as it is. Roll out of bed and go to the gym around 8am. I joined Xtreme Fitness on 4N 10N-130. Not bad for a Colombian gym but no pussy present when I'm there. My personal trainer amigo, Paul, tells me to come at 6 de la tarde. Still no pussy! Santillana near Ovieda Mall in MDE has it beat by a long shot in the chica department. Then I grab breakfast at any of a number of cafes on 6 Ave where I can watch the parade of chicas on their way to work or school.
One day I happen to sit next to Claude, the owner of Cali Plaza Hotel. We get to talking and I tell him that I left his place for a cheaper place nearby. He doesn't hold a grudge -- nice guy. He shows me around his place, which is on 15N at 6 Ave (opposite Viejo Barril). He's renovating the street level cafe and plans to open up soon. He's also got a rooftop space with great views where he might open up a lounge. His hotel is comprised of 1 and 3 bedrm apts on the upper floors and rooms on the first floor. It's clean, nicely appointed and well run with no guest fee. I probably would've stayed if Claude was in town when I checked in, but I've got so much more money for putas now!
I usually head to one of the various casas during the day to take the edge off. The ones that I remember are: La Casita de Rio Arte, Av 2N No. 24N-105; Playmates Room, Av 2Bis N No. 34-61; Geisha, Av 2EN No. 24N-114; and of course Dr. Love. Thanks again to World Traveler and Fido Dido for their lists. Most charge between 40,000 – 50,000 la hora. Selection varies day to day and depending upon what time of day (or night) you go. My m.o. Is to seek out not necessarily the hottest girl in the house, but the sexiest girl that I feel a connection with. I chill on the sofa, have a drink, let them parade by. Then I take my time calling over the ones that were pretty and actually smiled at me. The ones that stick out their hands mechanically and don't look me in the eye will be equally mechanical in bed, so I avoid them. I chat up the ones I like, get real close and whisper into their ear how sexy they are and what I’d like to do with them, and then select the one that registered hardest on the "peter meter. " Usually my puta intuition is pretty good. I get the cell numbers of my favorite girls and have them come to my hotel when I don’t feel like going to a casa.
ChipiChape Mall is a decent place to meet girls. There are several little bars (almost like kiosks) throughout the mall where you could usually find women having a drink after work. Also, some of the store clerks were receptive to the advances of an intermediate level spanish speaking gringo. I had a few dates with ChipiChape chicas, but found that most "buena chicas" require a bit of time before they were ready to hop into bed with me . Except Carolina who happily slept with me but with her jeans glued securely to her ass! I spent another night out with Carolina and her friends at a cool club called Praga. I wanted to bust a move on one of the girls in our group, a real hottie from Bogota – a rolla. But sadly it was not to be. Got a little further with Carolina that night . Her hand on my cock, her lips on my cock, but those jeans weren’t budging. Two strikes and you’re out baby. She’s got to go!
Met a cute 20 year old black girl at Douglas, a bar on 6th Ave. I was with my boy "W". She and her friend wanted to go somewhere else with us, but we ended up going elsewhere with a different group of girls that he knew. I hooked up with her a few nights later. We went to Archies Pizza where all she wanted was a jugo. I told her she was a "cita barata" (cheap date). I don’t think it translated well as I had to explain that no she wasn’t cheap, but the date was cheap. Anyway, headed to my place for some rum and cokes and salsa lessons which led to making out and eventually, yes... FREE SEX! She was very passionate and sucked me with more psi than a hoover. "Donde quieres mi leche? " I asked. "Aqui" she said rubbing her firm young tits. Mmmm, milky cum on brown skin -- buen contraste! She had to leave bright and early the next AM, so I called her a taxi and gave her 10,000 ($4.50). Cita barata indeed! Although Freeze told me the next day that I should’ve just given her 1,000 (or was it 500) for the bus. You gotta love that guy!
Gringo Loco,
I enjoy your posts. Looks like you are having a great time. Just to clarify a term, that most do use incorrectly. But so people in Colombia might understand you better.
When you pay someone to have sex with you in Colombiana, the term for them is prostituta, not puta.
A puta is a term for your, let's call them "regular girls" but just simply love sex. I. E. You go to a disco, or you meet someone on the street and invite them to dinner. Sure there may be some chemistry and they may be into you. But most likely they are muy arrecha and they like sleeping around b/c they like sex. So of course they are going to go with a gringo if they have a shot. Another example. Maybe you enroll at a University, and chat up the gals in your class. If it's a girlfriend you are looking for or they are looking for a bf its one thing. But if not. And she jumps in the sack with you then the term for her is "puta". Does that make sense. Most gringos don't understand that.
Thus. If you are paying them. They are a prostituta.
If not, they are a "puta".
I just thought I'd let you know because 1) if you call a prostituta a puta. She will be very offended. And of course vice versa, and 2) If some Colombianos sya to you. "Vamos a buscar unas putas. " They are simply saying lets try to go hook up and get laid. Could be at a disco, party, University, anywhere. But not somewhere where you pay for sex. Does this make sense?
[blue]Hi Winner71,
Interesting, because here in Argentina, the word "puta" is the slang term for a prostitute.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
[QUOTE=Gringo Loco]So I settle into my routine, such as it is. Roll out of bed and go to the gym around 8am. I joined Xtreme Fitness on 4N 10N-130. Not bad for a Colombian gym but no pussy present when I'm there. My personal trainer amigo, Paul, tells me to come at 6 de la tarde. Still no pussy! Santillana near Ovieda Mall in MDE has it beat by a long shot in the chica department. Then I grab breakfast at any of a number of cafes on 6 Ave where I can watch the parade of chicas on their way to work or school.
One day I happen to sit next to Claude, the owner of Cali Plaza Hotel. We get to talking and I tell him that I left his place for a cheaper place nearby. He doesn't hold a grudge -- nice guy. He shows me around his place, which is on 15N at 6 Ave (opposite Viejo Barril). He's renovating the street level cafe and plans to open up soon. He's also got a rooftop space with great views where he might open up a lounge. His hotel is comprised of 1 and 3 bedrm apts on the upper floors and rooms on the first floor. It's clean, nicely appointed and well run with no guest fee. I probably would've stayed if Claude was in town when I checked in, but I've got so much more money for putas now!
I usually head to one of the various casas during the day to take the edge off. The ones that I remember are: La Casita de Rio Arte, Av 2N No. 24N-105; Playmates Room, Av 2Bis N No. 34-61; Geisha, Av 2EN No. 24N-114; and of course Dr. Love. Thanks again to World Traveler and Fido Dido for their lists. Most charge between 40,000 – 50,000 la hora. Selection varies day to day and depending upon what time of day (or night) you go. My m.o. Is to seek out not necessarily the hottest girl in the house, but the sexiest girl that I feel a connection with. I chill on the sofa, have a drink, let them parade by. Then I take my time calling over the ones that were pretty and actually smiled at me. The ones that stick out their hands mechanically and don't look me in the eye will be equally mechanical in bed, so I avoid them. I chat up the ones I like, get real close and whisper into their ear how sexy they are and what I’d like to do with them, and then select the one that registered hardest on the "peter meter. " Usually my puta intuition is pretty good. I get the cell numbers of my favorite girls and have them come to my hotel when I don’t feel like going to a casa.
ChipiChape Mall is a decent place to meet girls. There are several little bars (almost like kiosks) throughout the mall where you could usually find women having a drink after work. Also, some of the store clerks were receptive to the advances of an intermediate level spanish speaking gringo. I had a few dates with ChipiChape chicas, but found that most "buena chicas" require a bit of time before they were ready to hop into bed with me . Except Carolina who happily slept with me but with her jeans glued securely to her ass! I spent another night out with Carolina and her friends at a cool club called Praga. I wanted to bust a move on one of the girls in our group, a real hottie from Bogota – a rolla. But sadly it was not to be. Got a little further with Carolina that night . Her hand on my cock, her lips on my cock, but those jeans weren’t budging. Two strikes and you’re out baby. She’s got to go!
Met a cute 20 year old black girl at Douglas, a bar on 6th Ave. I was with my boy "W". She and her friend wanted to go somewhere else with us, but we ended up going elsewhere with a different group of girls that he knew. I hooked up with her a few nights later. We went to Archies Pizza where all she wanted was a jugo. I told her she was a "cita barata" (cheap date). I don’t think it translated well as I had to explain that no she wasn’t cheap, but the date was cheap. Anyway, headed to my place for some rum and cokes and salsa lessons which led to making out and eventually, yes... FREE SEX! She was very passionate and sucked me with more psi than a hoover. "Donde quieres mi leche? " I asked. "Aqui" she said rubbing her firm young tits. Mmmm, milky cum on brown skin -- buen contraste! She had to leave bright and early the next AM, so I called her a taxi and gave her 10,000 ($4.50). Cita barata indeed! Although Freeze told me the next day that I should’ve just given her 1,000 (or was it 500) for the bus. You gotta love that guy![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Winner71]Gringo Loco,
I enjoy your posts. Looks like you are having a great time. Just to clarify a term, that most do use incorrectly. But so people in Colombia might understand you better.
When you pay someone to have sex with you in Colombiana, the term for them is prostituta, not puta.
A puta is a term for your, let's call them "regular girls" but just simply love sex. I. E. You go to a disco, or you meet someone on the street and invite them to dinner. Sure there may be some chemistry and they may be into you. But most likely they are muy arrecha and they like sleeping around b/c they like sex. So of course they are going to go with a gringo if they have a shot. Another example. Maybe you enroll at a University, and chat up the gals in your class. If it's a girlfriend you are looking for or they are looking for a bf its one thing. But if not. And she jumps in the sack with you then the term for her is "puta". Does that make sense. Most gringos don't understand that.
Thus. If you are paying them. They are a prostituta.
If not, they are a "puta".
I just thought I'd let you know because 1) if you call a prostituta a puta. She will be very offended. And of course vice versa, and 2) If some Colombianos sya to you. "Vamos a buscar unas putas. " They are simply saying lets try to go hook up and get laid. Could be at a disco, party, University, anywhere. But not somewhere where you pay for sex. Does this make sense?
[blue]Hi Winner71,
Interesting, because here in Argentina, the word "puta" is the slang term for a prostitute.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue][/QUOTE]
Good tip... it is definitely what is used locally.. puta means worker in the DR too...
In Cartagena I have heard the term "prepago" applied to a chica who has sex with you for money. In Medellin they are called "grillas" or "putas." But in Bogota a grilla is an ugly chica.
It seems that every area of Colombia has its own twist on the language.
Ever heard of qubo(cue-bo)? It is a greeting used primarily by Paisas, a contraction of que hubo.
Hey amigo ... I think you PMd me ... accidentally deleted ... write back if ya need algo.
Tom 33, prepago is typically a good-looking, classy semipro. She doesn't go with a lot of men, and may go out on a regular date with you before you do the deed later that night. Sometimes she's a student. You do pay her cash. Best translation for puta might be "wh*re", and it's vulgar. It does mean prostitute. But just like in English, you can call a woman a wh*re who doesn't have sex for money.
good explanation
Hi mongers,
I met a chica on a dating website, she is from Cali, university girl. She is insisting that I visit Cali.
From the forum I saw that it is not good to go to Cali for a non experienced traveller, so I proposed to meet up in Cartagena, but she is insisting on Cali so that I can meet her family.
According to her, her brothers are engineers and doctors, and her family is middle class.
As far as she knows, I am not rich or particularly wealthy.
Is this a typical scheme? Am I going to be sold to a local hospital for body parts? Sold to the FARC? Tortured in a video sent to the government? Am I running into a large, fat trap?
I wouldn't go to Cali to meet someone that I had never met. And I live in Colombia.
No big deal Freedick ...
If you really want to meet this chica ... fly to Cali ... take official taxi to your hotel ... have the chica meet you at the hotel or restaraunt / cafe to meet the first time.
Don't have her pick you up at the airport.
A normal, middle class, nice chica normally will not run to Cartagena to meet up with someone that haven't even met in person yet.
Cali is not the best spot for inexperienced Colombia traveler to monger ... but to meet up with a chica ... no big deal ... you could always fly to Cartegena from Cali if it doesn't work out.
I've had nothing but bad luck with dating sites ... but that's just me ... I much prefer meeting them out and about ... it's not tough in Colombia, especially if ya speak the lingo.
Suerte!
How do I know a taxi is official?
[QUOTE=Ricker]No big deal Freedick ...
If you really want to meet this chica ... fly to Cali ... take official taxi to your hotel ... have the chica meet you at the hotel or restaraunt / cafe to meet the first time.
Don't have her pick you up at the airport.
A normal, middle class, nice chica normally will not run to Cartagena to meet up with someone that haven't even met in person yet.
Cali is not the best spot for inexperienced Colombia traveler to monger ... but to meet up with a chica ... no big deal ... you could always fly to Cartegena from Cali if it doesn't work out.
I've had nothing but bad luck with dating sites ... but that's just me ... I much prefer meeting them out and about ... it's not tough in Colombia, especially if ya speak the lingo.
Suerte![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tom 33]I wouldn't go to Cali to meet someone that I had never met. And I live in Colombia.[/QUOTE]
Tom, you know how mongers are...my little head is acting up...could you please provide safety tips? Questions to ask her? Things to absolutely avoid when dealing with her? Dead giveaways?
in Cali ... once out of customs ... only one exit out ... to the left, on the street, are taxis lined up ... all official taxis.
winner and co., thanks for the clarification. i guess we use the same terminology back in the states.... i.e., "i met this girl at a club and just two hours later she was back at my place blowing me! what a hoe!" (as in puta).
back to cali: avoid this town during semana santa if possible. it's dead. a few bars were open, but virtually empty. thursday and friday were the worst. even dr. amor was closed! good thing i'd had the foresight to get some phone numbers from some of the casa girls and my choco-latte was also giving it up or i'd have been sitting home whacking to the chicas on musica latina!
friday morning i woke up to the noise from the crowds beginning their ascent up to the mountain with las tres cruces. spoke with la recepcionista at my hotel who encouraged me to go. so off i went, solo. it was a bit overcast at first, but 20 minutes into the climb the sun came blazing out. white gringo, shaved head, no hat, no shirt, no sunblock..... no brains! man would i pay for my stupidity! anyway, i hooked up with this group of 3 girls, a tia and her **** daughter on the way up. one (early 20's) was a real hottie. i encouraged them to take the shorter (but more difficult) route to the top with me... "es facil!" i lost them somewhere along the way -- damn! made it to the top and my scalp was already itching from the sunburn. meet 2 other girls near the top who i chatted with for a while. one had a pretty face but demasiado junk in the trunk, the other a smoking body but the face wasn't quite doing it for me. so i focus in on the one with body. (if only i could put the cute head on the smoking body.... hmmmm). as i'm talking to them i feel a pinch on my ass. i turn but i'm not sure who did it (it's jammed packed up there). and again. i turn and see 3 girls behind me, one is grinning at me. i smile back. they all seem drunk at 1 in the afternoon.... interesting. just then the group that i met earlier makes it to the top. i excuse myself from my present company thinking that my best option was the hottie from before. they're thirsty, tired, and somewhat aggravated with me for having led them up the more difficult route. i buy a liter of postobon manzana to share with them, but i can tell that the magic has gone. i tell them i'm going to go take some fotos and head off in search of either cute face / fat ass with her friend "butter face", or the 3 chicas who were pinching my butt. can't find any of them, so with my head and the back of my neck in full blaze from the hot sun i began the descent as i started out -- alone..... damn!
i lost my focus and ended up with nada! well not exactly nada, because as i would discover later when i finally made it back to my room i was as red as a lobster. el gringo langosta comes to cali! over the next few days i would often have to answer the question "que paso?" with regards to my sunburn. freeze and "w" have a good laugh at my expense.
freeze invites me to go a fiesta at his novia's mother's house a few days later. he and w go to all my favorite casas in his jeep in a vain effort to track me down. "habia aqui un gringo, mono... rojo?" but alas they were unsuccesful as i hit a new place and had my phone turned off during my hour of pleasure. we go in freeze's jeep, bouncing over the potholes to the fiesta. it's a strata 2 hood, but not scary as i'd imagined it might be. the party is fun. lots of booze, food, dancing. too bad that the only hot girl there is freeze's novia, but everyone is real friendly. later freeze drops w and me off at a bar down in the south where he had been once before. w doesn't want to get out of the jeep, but i urge him on. once there, it's not as bad as it seemed. we have a couple of beers and then head off to another place that the doorman recommends called la luna, and then eventually to a below ground club called subterraneo. good vibe at both places. i get some numbers but go home alone. w has some pussy waiting for him back home like he always seems to. sonofabitch!
i go out to an area with a bunch of clubs... plaza norte? not sure if i remember the name right. it's a thursday. only one place is hopping -- la escolona(?) we get a table and order a bottle. freeze is lucky to have such a sweet and sexy novia. god bless you freeze! some girl catches my eye and i excuse myself from the table to say hello. pretty soon we're dancing to the reggaeton and she's grinding pretty hard on me. unfortunately she's not that hot, but certainly available. i scope out the rest of the club. the place is smoky and jam packed with drunk, dancing revelers. i find a table with 3 girls (all very do-able) and 2 guys. i say hi to one of the dudes... "cual es tu novia?" i ask. "no", he replies, "amigas. cual te gusta?" before i know it, freeze and his novia find me and hand me half a bottle of rum that's left. "have fun!" i add my bottle to the other on the table and feel the situation out. i zero in on the girl that seems most receptive to me. after all, we only bang girls that want to bang us (unless of course we're paying). everybody's drunk, me included. i ask her to come back with me. she doesn't know. we're kissing and dancing. the lights come on. it's over. c'mon, no te mordere (i'm not going to bite you). i tell her friends that i want her to come home with me but she doesn't want to. go, they tell her. she just needed their blessing. off we go. the sex is good! too bad my trip is winding down.
my last night in town we all head to juanchito, a bar district 20 minutes or so out of town. we go to a well known salsa club named chango. "w" is kind enough to hook me up with an amiga of one of his various chicas. man was she something! pretty face, dark hair and a perfect gym-toned body with big cans. the girl could move on the dance floor too. i was in full blown lust! freeze leaves with his novia and her amiga gorda. (note to freeze: how come all of your girl's amigas are fat?) w jumps in a cab with his girl and attempts the speedy exit, but her friend isn't buying it. she insists on getting into the cab too, so we all end up at w's place at around 4am. i'm trying to talk my girl into coming home with me. "it's my last night, soy caballero, solo quiero hablar y conocerte mejor... blah blah blah." w pulls the curtain separating his bed from the living area. i know my boy is getting blown in there at the very least (which he confirms the next day). my girl won't leave with me, and eventually gets her friend to leave with her. damn! if only i had another day or two i know i'd seal the deal.
freeze is coming to bring me to the airport at 1pm. my cell rings at 10:30, it's my 20 yr old choco-latte. she wants to come over for a despedida (send off). we go at it for over an hour, shower and then head to the house across the street -- a private restaurant -- for lunch. i have a big plate of arroz con pollo. she only wants a jugo.... again! freeze finds me there with her eating my last meal in cali. "vamos."
it's been a couple of weeks now that i'm back home and i miss cali a lot. the dirty, sometimes scary streets. hanging with the boys. chasing chicas and banging prostitutas and putas. medellin is a far nicer city, but cali has its own unique charm to it. the mongering is good in both places, but i wouldn't recommend cali to a non-spanish speaking first timer. it's far easier in cartagena or at greg & robert's pussy palace, but i'll probably head back to cali first.
Hey Loco ... when ya heading back to Colombia?
Taking my chica to Medellin and to maybe visit Freeze in Pereira ... in about a week.
GL Nice report....Sounds like your pretty fluent in Spanish from your sucessful trip. It think Caracas girls have been Miami girls for years now(not that I'm complaining), the women in Cartagena and especially Medellin are both well on their way to being Americanized. I've read all the posts of Cali and it sounds like Cali is a city not touched by those influences.......yet. I love the grittiness of this place and am ready to see just how far my Spanish has come along...
If you must go, follow Ricker's advice. It is more likely that she will take you to her favorite clothes store and try to milk you dry than sell you to the FARC.
It might be an idea to restrict your activities to daytime and early evening for a couple of days. I would be leery of leaving the city. Of course I'm leery OF the city. Be very careful in areas that look shabby.
Also ... if the chica does suggest shopping and starts selecting high priced clothes, etc ... DUMP her!
Cali is famous for that ... especially marriage agency / dating service chicas.
If one of these Colombianas dig you for real ... they may window shop ... but they won't allow you to spend much money at the mall when they know they can get the same clothing / stuff elsewhere ... el Centro ... much cheaper.
Good test for them though.
I once left a chica in Caracas in the store (for Rob Hay ... in SAMBIL) ... after she picked out a few hundred dollars worth of clothes and called me over to pay ... I gave her cab money to get home and I split ... fast ... I hate that shit.
I dump them fast if they're like that ..... NEXT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! is what I think.
Suerte!
Ricker.... too funny! But you're absolutely right! Once I realize that some chica is just milking me, I'm gone. And fast! I'll take a girl out to dinner at a cheap, typical colombian restaurant and if she seems perturbed that we're not dining in higher style I know where I stand.
I'm already looking for cheap flights to Cali or MDE. It's not going to happen next week though. I just spoke with Freeze yesterday. I'd certainly like to make a visit to Pereira. He says it's nice there.
I'll pm you after I book something. The first beer is on me!
Oh yeah, as you know I did run into your novia on her way to school. She said hi to me and for a moment there I couldn't remember where I knew her from. The mall, a bar.....? We sat down for a minute and she showed me her english book, which we laughed over. And then it hit me -- ahhh.... Ricker's novia. You're a lucky man my friend!
Hey LOCO ... actually it's fun and interesting when you take a chica out and see how she acts ... orders the highest priced items, treats waiters / the staff like servants, complains about the quality, etc, etc, etc ... same as the shopping thing.
When you find a hot chica that doesn't do all that crap ... you know you've got a keeper.
Yep ... she told me she ran into you on the way to school ... she thinks you're a jerk .... hahaha ... she likes ya.
She's a keeper.
Maybe I can help ya with the international ticket ... PM me amigo.
Suerte!
Hey, you see with these chicas and how I got MY novia, is I play REVERSE psycology with them. First we go to Unicentro or ChipeChape and I bait them, by offering to by them something from STUDIOF. "I know I know its cruel, like hanging a steak infront of a starving dog" now if she accepts without being HUMBLE and starts to pick up things LIKE JEANS there that cost 250k, I'm not kidding you, WHO in Colombia can afford 250k jeans? Drug dealers wives and girlfriends? RUN for the hills and DUMP HER because you will have more problems with her in the future. Ea WU novia or let me coin the new term, lets see if it sticks and you guys like it. They are "AGENCY MONGERS" ha ha LOL. NOW if you have a good NOVIA like mine, she will say, "no baby don't buy anything here! Save some money and let go to CENTRO were we can but they same stuff at 1/4 the price! " now thats a keeper. Ha ha "CHINO"
The Sexta is developing more and more of the negatives seen in Laguito & Pobaldo. Getting bbbj and GFE is getting harder and harder. White guys panhandlnig IN GOOD ENGLISH! It aint Laguito YET, but it isn't untouched like it was just a few years back.
For example, this pimped Sexta Streetwalker who I call El Tiburon. Beware.
Surfer, what's up? Seems like you were getting into Cali just when I was leaving, according to our mutual friends Antifreeze and his "beatch" (and I don't mean his novia) "W". Great guys, both of them. And you're right when you say that Cali is far from untouched. I also ran into that white guy panhandling. Sounded like an american accent to me. Lots of agencies operating in that town bringing in the gringos. I might have to take Freeze up on his offer to visit with him in Pereira. And there's always Cuba, but it's been more than a year since I've been there..... too many hassles.
Gringo Loco,
My girlfriend only has fat friends because all the non-fat ex-friends she had in her life ended-up being jealous. She's so hot that no competition is allowed (although she states that they ended-up being jealous for nothing). While she has fat friends, they think that they can end-up with the left-overs.
Ricker,
I look forward to see you here in Pereira. I have no remorse of coming here. The paysa is way more civilized than the Caleño. I live the dream here. The finca is coming to life little by little (with the help of much energy and spending). My girlfriend is not only hot, but she knows about living on a finca. Her knowledge on animals and plants impresses me much. She wants me to buy her 50 chicken (that I will). $50, that if you take care of well transforms into $250 after 45 days. That doesn't seem to be a bad deal to me.
Freeze
I have also ran into th white Panhandler, right in front of the 24 pharmacy on the sexta, I think he said he was from San Diego? He startled me because I was with my novia and getting some raincoats, damm i hate those "Today Colombian condoms but I ran out of my KIMONOS and this was before my Novia got a cervical cap installed. And all of a sudden he busts out "man, you got some spare change bro" I thought I was back in Miami. Sucks.
Poor quality and thick (think of covering it with a water ballooon). ALWAYS bring an ample supply of Japanese condoms. I like Beyond7 and Crown microthin the best. Also bring Astroglide (they use petroluem based KY jelly in Colombia-yuk!).
I was just reading Aussie Greg's thread about guys paying 150K per hour, 300K for attending a party. It aint just Cartagena anymore! I balk at the Sexta street girls asking 50K per hour because the locals are NOT paying more than 30 or 40K per hour!
While Colombianas still blow doors on most other Latinas, prices and attitudes are inexorably changing (for the worse). It won't be that long before Cali is no better than San Jose or Santo Domingo. ): Time to seek out greener pastures.
By the by, does ANYBODY still doubt that posting about how great a place is on public internet sites (like this one) is the kiss of death? Call me paranoid, call me selfish, call me arrogant if you will, but one thing you CANNOT call me is "incorrect". Share your secrets on private groups, and with friends, but post it in public and your secret Eden will not last for long.
I get a chuckle out of the "don't let the word out about your Shangrila" guys. Whether or not you post anything on any forum, if the place is that good, the word will get out.
There are actually three certainties in life: death, taxes, and change. My Colombia will change. Some of those changes will be good and others will not. But those changes will come despite any efforts on my part, and despite what anyone posts or does not post on this or any other public board.
Keep your secrets if you choose. It matters not one whit to me or to posterity.
you are in denial if you think that TSMtravel did not accelerate the gringoization of Cartagena. You like living there among the constantly increasing numbers of gringos, and more power to you. But NOT everyone who loves Colombia shares your prefernces. Some want to get away from American culture and Americans and prefer to associate with Colombianos in a culture that is not so homogenous.
Sadly, becuase of sites like ISG and TSM, it is getting harder and harder to accomplish this. You want to believe there are no "secrets" left? Then I say, GREAT! You are correct. It does not get any better than Laguito or Poblado so no reason to go explore elsewhere.
Colombian society is very homogenious. Cartagena is about as close to heterogenious as you can get in Colombia. But if your objective is to get away from Americans and/or American culture, try Bolivia or maybe Tibet. You certainly don't want to come to Laguito. There are actually more Israelis and Italians in Cartagena than Americans.
The pace of change will move as the pace of change moves.
short term foreign visitors, regardless of nationality, tend to overpay creating delusions of gradeur among the chicas. If Colombia wasn't such a long flight from Japan it would be even worse. SE Asia travelers know what I mean.
Also, the less foreigners in a given place, the friednlier the local people as you are more of a novelty. This also applies to the local chicas. So, IMHO, the incidence of GFE is inversely proportional to the number of foreign sex tourist patronizing a given establishment. LDV is a paradigm as Laguito was the first artea of Colombia to get lots of foreign sex tourists (thanks to TSM). As more and more foreigners go there with pockets of pesos and no experience bargaining, the higher the regular price will become and the frequency of GFE will diminish.
Now, this influx is spreading to Cali (it was already big in Poblado largely due to the hyping on this board). ): ): ):
[QUOTE=Surfer]short term foreign visitors, regardless of nationality, tend to overpay creating delusions of gradeur among the chicas. If Colombia wasn't such a long flight from Japan it would be even worse. SE Asia travelers know what I mean.
Also, the less foreigners in a given place, the friednlier the local people as you are more of a novelty. This also applies to the local chicas. So, IMHO, the incidence of GFE is inversely proportional to the number of foreign sex tourist patronizing a given establishment. LDV is a paradigm as Laguito was the first artea of Colombia to get lots of foreign sex tourists (thanks to TSM). As more and more foreigners go there with pockets of pesos and no experience bargaining, the higher the regular price will become and the frequency of GFE will diminish.
Now, this influx is spreading to Cali (it was already big in Poblado largely due to the hyping on this board). ): ): ):[/QUOTE]
Could not agree with you more.
The Italians way overpay in CTG and are worse in many ways than the gringos, who don't know how to blend in and think they are in the Hotel del rey in Costa Rica, and just act stupid. Don't know much about the Israeli's in CTG or Cali. The main reason's I avoid CR are 1) The overpriced and mercenary chicas, 2) Too many loud stupid gringos....
Surf, I do not disagree with you about the short-term visitors. However, they do not really affect my life in Laguito. I rarely go to the LDV anymore. The vast majority of visitors to Laguito are still Colombians. I manage to find many more non- or semi-pros who would never go to LDV than I can handle. And I'm a fat, old guy. I do like to hang out and speak English on occasion though. My Spanish still sucks.
The Italians in Cartagena are generally known as cheap bastards. Many chicas do not like them. The Israelis are young and have no money. They expect to supply the coke and fuck for free.
I'd weigh in with Tom 33 on this one. I don't think I've run across a single resident of Cartagena, except Mery and Sally, who's wanted to speak more than 5 words of English with me. And I don't see that many mongers in Cartagena outside of LDV. But I'm not that good at differentiating the Italians and the Israelis. A female friend of mine, a dark-skinned good girl, did tell me that people seeing us walk together would probably think she's a hooker. And I do think it's getting a little harder in Cartagena versus the first time I went to date good girls, because of mongers like me dating putas.
I'm not sure about the extranjeros reducing chances for GFE. I do think sometime when you're the first or second a working girl has been with it enhances the experience. But the locals don't have the purchasing power we do so often the brothels are geared for the wham-bam-thank-you ma'am type experience. Surfer, an example we both could relate too might be Blok M vs. Jalan Manga Besar area -- your chances of GFE are higher in the area catering to the extranjeros. Although I guess places like San Jose, Costa Rica would be a good example for the other side of the coin.
Money may not buy love, but sometimes it can buy a good actress (a GFE).
I'm glad the internet exists -- otherwise I'd probably still be banging chicas in Juarez and thinking it's the greatest place on earth.
So what's this doing in the Cali thread?
My feeling is that I have gotten so much benefit out of this board. It's good to put something back in.
I was introduced to the German FKK's through this forum. I'd been living a few hours away and never knew about these places. I would never have come to Colombia if it weren't for some of the photos people posted and the good reports. As an ongoing benefit, I continue to meet many cool people through the forum, which enhances my vacation.
I think there's a limit to how quickly Colombia can change, though. There are high barriers to entry in Colombia for a monger. Most people never even consider coming, because of the ongoing armed conflict. Then there is the language issue. Most folks will never become proficient in Spanish and Colombian customs, so they remain confined to the gringo ghettos.
Second time around in Colombia, I was expecting not to like LDV. I have to say, it was one of the mongering highlights. I really like the GFE from there. The experience is so much more when you can buy a bottle, dance with your girl, then take her back for a few unhurried hours at the apartment.
That said, I am not exactly spreading the word on the Brazil boards about how great I think Colombia is. But I think it can't hurt to give some guidance about how to do a place well, and what amounts are reasonable to pay.
There are just too many gringos in Cali now. This is one reason I left Cali. All my reasons are the following:
1) I have a good girlfriend now, so why tap into the only positive resource that Cali has working for it (its women - professional that is since finding a non-pro in Cali is pretty difficult to say the least).
2) People traveling to Cali go there for one or many of the following reasons (fuck till they drop - OK, and/or using the white stuff - UNACCEPTABLE, and/or find and use kids - UNACCEPTABLE). Mongering should be ONE thing you do while traveling, not the purpose of a trip as much as possible. There is more to discover than women in each country, and there is more to discover about yourself than the sense of manhood that you get from using a woman in exchange of your money. Be a little more curious about things and maybe we can all display more humanity and not bore the observer to death by our own simplicity.
3) Cali looks like a dump and a war zone, and gets worse over time. Cali's traffic problems are unsustainable.
4) Although Cali's women are great to bang once in a while, the Caleños are scumbags that do not have any culture other than the culture of violence - even worse, they enjoy violence, but would never come to you and fix their deed one to one and unarmed, they prefer sending an armed stranger to fix their mess (how coward they are is behond my vocabulary). Living in Cali means that you need to deal with these people, and that is not easy.
5) My ex-wife is there and she is surrounded by too many Caleños to even think that threatening people is not normal (and God knows what else there is in her pea-brain). so getting away is better.
Visit Cali, enjoy its women, but do some real tourism. Do not get into a ghetto life of fucking. Get out once in a while and smell the fresh air. Too many gringos under these conditions would not be a big deal, but this is not what I've seen there over the years and it really got to the point where I got bored by it.
Freeze
Pereira, Colombia
It sounds like you have had one too many run ins with the Calenos .....that is unfortunate and hopefully no harm came your way. Thats really too bad they soured your opinion of Cali.....reading your past post it really sounded like you loved the city.
That strange I really thought that local Paisa I met all had alot of class and good manners, too bad you didnt feel the same of Calenos. Well this is the city of misstresses, I guess they are a step below
Has anyone stayed here?
[url]www.habitacali.com/[/url]
The address is given as
Ediffcio pineda
Calle 43 NTe( barrio la Campina)
on the map it looks like its close to a carrefour and chipichape. Can anyone tell me if this is a safe neighborhood? Also is it close to la sexta?
Dont have an idea on the price but will email management
I just came back from Pereira (santa rosa de cabal to e exact) from 5 days of vacation. Couldn't have chance to mongering and meet antifreeze (no contact info). All in all, it was okay. I kinda depressed how the family lives in santa rosa though (the girl I met in PTY).
Pereira was nice place ntot too slow not too fast. Weather was nice (not like miami). People are very kind.
Back to work.
I just envy Antifreeze.
You are live in heaven man
OK, I sacrificed myself this weekend and went to grab asses and addresses in Pereira. I know that the Cali section may not be the best place to put this report, but there's no Pereira section (could someone open one for me please).
Overall, I'd say that Pereira is pretty good. Contrary to my initial thoughts some places are open during the day, but most of the fun is at night. Girls are of better quality than what I've seen in Cali, but mongering is also more expensive than Cali (that is the big surprise).
Here it goes.
Top place for quality and choice of women plus ambiance:
- Flores Frescas (in Pereira). About 25 girls when I've been there (6 to 9 for their looks). The place is clean, good music, etc... The downside: as soon as you get in, you are seated and are "ordered" to order a dring. Cheapest drink available is about $40 000 (pretty steep) - no beer available. Calle 26 No 6-15, phone 336-8082 or 333-2125. Getting a girl upstairs will cost you a minimum of 80 000 for the half hour and I got mine for 110 000 for the hour. Adding the dring over that will mean a pretty expensive night in town...
- Star club. Comparable to the San-Diego strip club from Medellin. Could be a good place to hang out with a buddy and sip an inexpensive beer to get started during the night. Cra 13 #19-48 (frente del parque Olaya). Phone 335-6499.
- Amstel discoteca. This is a discotheque with plenty of working girls. Good quality of women. Cra 35 #10-11. Phone 326-4554.
- La whiskeria. This place is downtown. Also pretty good quality. Service is 40 000 + 20 000 for the room. It's open from 8PM to 2AM. Avenida del ferrocarril #13-43. Phone 334-6812.
- La barra. This is a pub with girls serving in bikini. Whoever you like you can get a show from or go to the room for the deed. Good concept. Cra 10 #20-21. Phone 335-3881.
- Pirineos Club. Good casa (next to the DTK "casa D" piedra). Service goes for around 80 000 for the hour. When I've been there, there was about 12 women (7 to 9). Calle 35 #5B-12. Phone 336-5128, cel: 316-420-4424. They also do domicilios (girl comes to your place).
- DTK "casa D" piedra (next to Pirineos club). Service goes for about the same price (80 000 for the hour). Also good choice. About 15 women when I've been there. Cra 5Bis No 35B - 10. Domicilio (24 horas). Phone 326-6738 or 311-301-7392.
Guides to Pereira:
Fernando (taxi driver): he knows lots of places to go to. 312-768-7735.
Jose works at Flores Fresca and told me he can get girls cheaper during the day: 310-460-5509.
Enjoy!
Antifreeze
Pereira, Colombia
Great report Antifreeze! There is a section called "Other Areas" where you could post this report too, where somebody looking specifically for Pereira information would be more likely to find it.
I have an upcoming trip to Cali and have been reading the Cali reports to find out hotel "choices" - The Intercontintal and Sheraton both were mentioned. Some like the Intercontinental and do not recommend the Sheraton because of "guest" fee. Others recommend the Sheraton and disprove of the Intercontinental.
Hopefully one "expert" can give me some guidance. I am not into the MP scene and usually have "outcall" service in my hotel room.
Which way do I go? Sheraton or Intercontinental??
Thanks for the "feedback" - firebird
[QUOTE=Firebird]I have an upcoming trip to Cali and have been reading the Cali reports to find out hotel "choices" - The Intercontintal and Sheraton both were mentioned. Some like the Intercontinental and do not recommend the Sheraton because of "guest" fee. Others recommend the Sheraton and disprove of the Intercontinental.
Hopefully one "expert" can give me some guidance. I am not into the MP scene and usually have "outcall" service in my hotel room.
Which way do I go? Sheraton or Intercontinental??
Thanks for the "feedback" - firebird[/QUOTE]
Neither, rent an apartment. hotels in cali are too damm expensive
if you have $$$ to burn, I'd stay at Casa de Alferez. I like the Torre de Cali (run by Spanish group GHL Hoteles), one block from the Sheraton and half the price (plus no guest fees!). InterC is where the clients of the marriage agencies and other clueless newbies stay. If you speak no Spanish, then maybe you'll feel comfortable at the InterC.
MJG, thanks for the feedback, but only will stay for stoo nights and company is paying for the hotel.
I still need some feedback - Sheraton or the Intercontinental??
[QUOTE=MJG Dogs]Neither, rent an apartment. hotels in cali are too damm expensive[/QUOTE]
I tried searching the forum to see if I could find any information on the Dann Carlton Hotel - but did not find any. Can someone advise if the Dann Carlton is "chica friendly"? Thanks - firebird
[QUOTE=Firebird]I tried searching the forum to see if I could find any information on the Dann Carlton Hotel - but did not find any. Can someone advise if the Dann Carlton is "chica friendly"? Thanks - firebird[/QUOTE]I was at the Dann Carlton last year, (Oct-05) and they didnt give me any grief, however, they did mention if you bring a girl in after 10pm, she has to check in with the front desk. (for security reasons) they didnt charge me extra, as I had many girls stay over night.
I stayed across form the Cali tower. Very nice and at only $50 usd a night it was good deal.
I went to Cali last weekend, and went back to "kiss me". "Kiss me" was never discussed on this board, but I tell you all, it's a must is Cali.
What is "kiss me"?
"Kiss me" is a love hotel where everything is oriented toward an optimal copulation. Nothing more, nothing less.
So, here's my recomendation. Find a girl you like, jump in a Taxi, and say "kiss me" to the driver. If he doesn't turn around and starts french kissing you, the odds are that he'll start driving and bring you to that place.
There, you'll have the choice between the followings (prices may not be exact, but it's more or less as is):
1) simple room - $20000 for 3 hours I think.
2) Turco (that's a Sauna you Gringo) - $28000 for 3 hours.
3) Jacuzi - $30000 for 3 hours.
4) Presidential (Jacuzi and Turco) - like $40000 for 3 hours.
Last weekend, I went into the turco with my girl for 3 shifts of 3 hours (all night), and that place rocks.
There is a TV with porn in every room, a CD player, a good shower and the ambiance is all for lovemaking. The presidential also has a stage for stripping I think.
Enjoy the tip.
Freeze
Pereira, Colombia
hell at those rates I might just STAY THERE next time. I am still so pissed at Don Jaime about adding the joiner fee ): Hope you had a good trip back to Cali.
The girl I meet regularly in colombia, often call me and says she wants my baby now. Well we are just in stage of getting each other and she wants my baby?
I told I am not comfortable with that issue and she's really depressed and upset.
Wow that's way fast and I am surprised that her reaction.
Is it colombian (south american) culture thing?
I am planning to start a small trip to Cali come july. Whats there skinn colour like and How do Calena ladies actually look like?
I mean does anyone have a pic of an average calena?
I am looking to bang some Salma Hayek look alikes. is Cali the place for that?
Thanks
E-N-I-G-M-A
Q: Whats there skinn colour like
A: More brown then average in Colombia
Q: and How do Calena ladies actually look like?
A: I find that 80% of them are far too fat for the sexy outfit they are wearing (lots of bellies and love-handles).
Q: I mean does anyone have a pic of an average calena?
A: You can definitely see the indian features in the faces of the women in Cali
Q: . . . Salma Hayek look alikes. is Cali the place for that?
A: Yes, you might find that type there
No matter how ugly and illiterate you are, upon arrival in Cali you are magically transformed into Brad Pitt just like Clark Kent becoming Superman when he enters a phone booth. You won't need to worry about what an "average" girl looks like as you'll be too busy "banging" J Lo and Selma Hayak look a likes.
I now realize the places I want to go from now on are places that have no folder on this board.
So what's the problem? What's there to think about? Why would you be uncomfortable? Isn't that perfectly normal thinking?
Yeah, South American culture is completely irrational like that.
Get real.
[QUOTE=perfectSW]The girl I meet regularly in colombia, often call me and says she wants my baby now. Well we are just in stage of getting each other and she wants my baby?
I told I am not comfortable with that issue and she's really depressed and upset.
Wow that's way fast and I am surprised that her reaction.
Is it colombian (south american) culture thing?[/QUOTE]
Well if your looking trough the picture forum look at the ones from cali. Believe it or not normal girls look like that. Yes you might have some with love handels in my opinion 30% shouldnt be weraing thight outfits but most of them are in good shape.
Yes they do look a little browner then USA , Europe girls but hey your in South America. They are Latina that is why I like them. if I want Pale looking chicks I will stay in USA.
I will be there for a short time and have a girlfriend waiting for me. However, I am unsure how long she will stay and would like to know if there are any recommendations that can be made as far as contacts for latina companionship. I have read the posts here but it seems some are outdated or should not be part of the Cali forum.
I speak fluent spanish and I am in good physical condition in my mid 40's.
I understand that it gets very hot ( weather ) in Cali during the day. Is there day time action nearby that is reasonable? How easy is it to pick up someone at a bar and what should be the price for toda la noche? Please respond back to me here or PM me. thanks, I really appreciate it. If anyone there needs advise on San Jose CR drop me a pm and I can give you
info for that.
[QUOTE=Surfer]No matter how ugly and illiterate you are, upon arrival in Cali you are magically transformed into Brad Pitt just like Clark Kent becoming Superman when he enters a phone booth. You won't need to worry about what an "average" girl looks like as you'll be too busy "banging" J Lo and Selma Hayak look a likes.
I now realize the places I want to go from now on are places that have no folder on this board.[/QUOTE]
Classic post Surfer.....
[QUOTE=Surfer]No matter how ugly and illiterate you are, upon arrival in Cali you are magically transformed into Brad Pitt just like Clark Kent becoming Superman when he enters a phone booth. You won't need to worry about what an "average" girl looks like as you'll be too busy "banging" J Lo and Selma Hayak look a likes.
I now realize the places I want to go from now on are places that have no folder on this board.[/QUOTE]
Surfer,
I do not see a folder on Montanito, Ecuador. Hint Hint!
LB
Can anyone tell me where to go closeby in Cali during the day just to get away from the hot weather? Anyone know of safe areas that are cooler than
Cali nearby?
thanks
[QUOTE=iamlookin]Can anyone tell me where to go closeby in Cali during the day just to get away from the hot weather? Anyone know of safe areas that are cooler than Cali nearby?
Thanks[/QUOTE]There is a lake north of Cali, called Lake Calima, about 2 hours drive. If you call any major hotel/travel agency, they will be able to help you with transportation. I was quoted last year for 60k pesos for round trip with private driver from Hotel casa del alfrez, but end up calling a friend of my lady. Some tips I can give you are: take a jacket as it gets cool during evening time. there are hotels/motels/bad-breakfast places you can stay for the night if you like. Plan on leaving early in the morning from Cali as sun set comes early as 6pm. It's safe as long as you go there with a colombian whom you know and trust (as it has been with all Colombians I have known).
This place is safe area anyway.
Hope this helps you out.
Tman.
[QUOTE=iamlookin]I will be there for a short time and have a girlfriend waiting for me. However, I am unsure how long she will stay and would like to know if there are any recommendations that can be made as far as contacts for latina companionship. I have read the posts here but it seems some are outdated or should not be part of the Cali forum.
I speak fluent spanish and I am in good physical condition in my mid 40's. I understand that it gets very hot (weather) in Cali during the day. Is there day time action nearby that is reasonable? How easy is it to pick up someone at a bar and what should be the price for toda la noche? Please respond back to me here or PM me. Thanks, I really appreciate it. If anyone there needs advise on San Jose CR drop me a pm and I can give you info for that.[/QUOTE]I have never been hunting in Cali for locals, but what I have heard from a friend in Cali is this: High class hotels, like Hotel Continental for example has street girls just browsing for men near and in the lobby area. Some are there to meet man they already know, others are just looking for men. prices?
30K-50K per hour. buy any news paper and check for girls as well as for price comparison.
Avianda 6 or sixth street is a street full of bars/actions. There is an american bar and can tell you it is easy to pick up girls. Be carful, as some of these hot colombians are nothing more then theives.
Another area, high class, safe bar, "casa de la cerveza" it is very close to hotel casa del alfrez on Ave 9N-24. Most taxis know this bar.
Try malls like chepechape during day time. I only know this mall as it is pretty safe place I use to go. But from What I hear, there are two new malls that I don't know about.
T.man
I'm heading to Cali for a month or so starting in a few weeks and had been in contact with Ramon the guide. However Ramon has informed me that he has taken a regular 9-5 job and is semi retired from the game. As a newbie to Cali can anyone recommend a local guy to show me the ropes/ give introductions for a week or so until i get my bearings straight?
much appreciated
Since my last post someone put me in touch with Andres who i promptly called and am having a hard time believing what he told me. He charges $60/ day for introductions or 10/hr, not including food and drinks for him during the course of the day. And he wants to set me up in an apartment Torres de Granada for $700/month. Additional he told me that latin girls hate cheap guys, which i am taking as meaning you'd better be willing to buy these girl anything they want anytime they want it.
Personally I'm shocked anyone would have the balls to quote that type of money....But let me not jump to the conclusion that paying anyone this type of money in a 3rd world country is ridiculous.......just yet.
Can I get the opinion of people who have actually used Andreas' services before as to what exactly one gets in return??? Is there any value....even just a little bit in his service. Now he has told me people have retained him months at a time so know there are at least a few of you guys who really like him.
But still I curious to know what you get:
Is this the biggest and best apartment complex in Cali?
Are you meeting the hottest models in the city?
ect???
Hmmmm. "you'd better be willing to buy these girl anything they want anytime they want it." We call those girls "gold diggers." You can find beautiful girls in any country if you pay lots of money. I also know some bar girls in Bangkok who will call you a "cheap charlie" if you do not spends lots of money on them.
At $60 per day you probably should go to the marriage agencies as they will give you unlimited introductions for close to that price. In most of the ISG posts guys usually say that the Colombian girls are not too demanding. I suppose that there are the usual suspects who want to be pampered with tons of cash. Avoid them... unless you have many millions of dollars.
I think Andres as a person is a GREAT guy, but as a guide, he is a bit lazy. He has in the past, with me, just hung around all day looking for a free meal/drink.
If you do not know Cali, then he is good to know (just to get the lay of the land). Once that is done, then it is often just him hanging out with you and hitting your minibar.
I paid for him and Ramon to get hookers and have a little party with me and my chica. Ramon got himself some lovin, but even after paying for a girl to be with him, Andres still could not get the job done. He was much more shy about this than Ramon. Ramon is very outgoing, Andres is not.
Gustavo (from Hotel Don Jaime) knows alot of chicas and can probably help you out.
All of these guys from Cali just want to make some cash. They are tired of guys know paying for their services so they are demanding the money upfront.
$Bill
Oh great...so this guy doesn't know many hotties and is not even a good wingman at a club? I'm looking for an aggressive type not afraid to approach chicks, Andreas does not sound like the type. Well its too bad about Ramon. Do you have Gustavos' contact info by any chance? Please pm.
Thanks to all who can help....a few rounds on me if i see you down there
Hey Rob,
$Bill is a good guy and probably the only monger that I have actually met and had the pleasure of having a drink together. He is the only guy who has actually met my novia. Rob, i know Bill doesnt like this guy but there's this guy who sells flowers on the street named MIKE, who speaks perfect english! I know he can introduce you to some hot chicas because ive seen it with my own eyes on a number of occassions, He and Ramon where always in competition for the Chicas, but obviously hes gonna get some type of kickback, but I dont know how much or what %. I'll do some research when I go down next Monday and I possibly might spend an EXTRA week and leave the 8th of August so we might cross paths a few days.
Good Luck! "Chino"
My Brother Bill mispoke a bit, I think: NEVERV pay the Chulo because he hits the chica up for his 20% AFTERWARDS. I like Gustavo, and have known him for yearrs, but his salary is shit so he counts on "tips". That being said, t do not let him (or anybody else) try and double dip. NEVER! THE CHICA PAYS FOR THE REFERRAL, NOT YOU.
The more clueless gringos who fall for this type of stuff, the more BS. Like the friggin guest charge BS at Don Jaime. How many guests did we have in and out of there with no charge Bill? I won't stay there again, and if all mongers boycotted the MFs they'd reconsider that attempt to fleece the foreigners.
Then there are the streetwalkers asking 60K or more per hour, the English speaking panhandlers and . . . .I better stop.
For a wingman type Andres is the guy. Gustavo is married and does not cruise and Ramon is OLD. Andres is young and suave. Nice guy too (though I never need a wingman in Cali). Not sure how to contact him.
Thats great if you'll be around..... Let me know what the situation is when you go down. I'll be in touch
Hey Miami Heat ... I'm heading down again tomorrow ... cuando te vas a ir?
I hate guides. Get a good taxista and you're in.
Suerte!
I'm going down Monday the 17th for 2 maybe 3 weeks! Gonna really desfruta! , if you wanna, gonna rent a chiva on Friday come along its gonna be a ball, pm me with your colombia cell! My best bro from ny is gonna come Thursday as well!
Peace "Chino"
I was just in Cali a few days ago and made my usual stop at the declining Flores Frescas. I would say the last 5 times I visited, I was more disappointed each time. My last visit was unreal. The cover charge (15 mil) and high drink charges were always way too high for Cali, but I put up with it before because there were always some sweet and beautiful women hanging around.
Now, the price for one hour with a girl in the room is 190 mil AND, this is the worst part, 4 out of 5 of the girls lied about this and asked for 240 mil. When I confronted them on this price, several got really nasty with me and stormed away. When I told Fabio, the honest and helpful waiter, he was furious with the women and got the manager. He asked me to repeat my story to him. When I did, I knew two things, 1. some of these women were in some trouble, 2. I probably would not be able to return, even if I wanted, for a very long time. The women remember things like this for a long time.
A previous poster commented on the Colombian women not liking cheap men and I find this to be very true for the working women. Well, I guess logically all working women don't like cheap men due to the nature of their business, but the Colombian are not shy about letting you know. BTW, the one girl who quoted the correct price was one of the best looking ones: Bridgette.
Anyway, if you do go to Flores Frescas, be very careful about what you pay and who you go with. Many of these girls are long-time pros who don't give a crap about you and will try to milk you out of every penny you have.
Surfer, Antifreeze, and Willy, were right about this place...it just took me a little longer to figure it out!
I visited Flores Frescas a few years back. There were several hotties, but the place was dark and dirty. There was a good lesbien show at midnight. I took a tall slim girl into a room for 120K. The room was dirty, the bed was dirty and the shower was cold. Fortunately the girl gave great service. While I was f@#&king the girl, other girls kept coming in and out of the room. I have not been back. I will not return, unless other mongers post improving conditions there.
Sky Dog
The price has almost doubled (it was 100K when I first went in 2003), but as you know Freeze and I never liked it as much as you did even when the price was reasonable (although there were some real hotties there as you note-did you see M working there by chance?)
I think this decline of quality to value at FF is just one more brick in the wall of the degradation of Colombian mongering due to the inexorable increase in the magnitude of the gringo invasion. I know I sound like a broken record, and of course there are still some good chicas and casas, but getting GFE for a reasonable price appears to be getting more and more difficult.
I agree with the other poster about the quality of the rooms too (I did it onsite ONCE then learned to have the chicas come to my hotel after work when I took a fancy to an FF chica. Obviously not all of them will go for that (you need to use some charm in addition to the promise of payment).
I was in Colombia just about 2 weeks ago and went to Flores Frescas because it was near my hotel. I agree that it is definetly over price for Cali
and would probably not return unless I was short on time and it was close by.
I did see some very good looking women and had a 1/2 hour session for 120K which I know is overpriced. I would recommend going to Pharohs instead near Torre de Cali. It was I believe 5mil to get in and I got the 20minute session with a knockout blonde for 35K. Women quality are about the same and there are lesbian shows as well.
Surfer, I think M is in Palmira now, but my memory is foggy. The last time I heard something about her was during my March visit.
iamlookin, I gave Pharohs a shot too. I was very diappointed with the quality, then the waiter charged me 14 mil for a mixed drink and I got the hell out of there. It took me 10 minutes to get a taxi (11:00PM) and when one finally pulled over, a gorgeous babe got out. She proceeded to go into Pharohs. I felt a bit silly following her in, because I was clearly about to get in her taxi, so I decided to go to the club next door to Pharohs for a while (don't remember the name).
That club was an absolute dump. Not only were the women ugly, but they were aggressive, rude, demanding, etc. I ordered a beer there and just wanted to finish it before leaving, so I ended up sititng there for a few minutes. I guess the women were pissed that I was sitting there alone and didn't want to give any of them attention. One of the uglist women came over and started putting her hands all over me (going for my wallet??). Another one asked for a cigarette and proceeded to hand the remaining cigs to her friends. I was really freaked out by all this because it seemed more like Tijuana than Cali. I got the heck out of there and forget completely about the beauty next door that I was planning on visiting. I just shows you how screwed up my visits to Cali are getting.
BTW, anyone else notice how beautiful women in the Colombian airports are? No matter how bad my trips go, I'm always left with a good impression and a desire to return after seeing these women on my way home. So I will be back to Colombia, but probably not Cali for a while.
Found this place while looking around for some action on sunday with a cabbie. Near Torre Poblado. Around 5 chicas at 1pm on sunday, quality 3-5 range. I think it was 40k for an hour but I asked for bbbj and paid 10k more. There is a small shower in the room but no hot water. They give you a small towel which is not white anymore due to years of use.
I will arrive to my hotel at Zona Norte around 10 PM this Friday. My idea is to check the non-pro action and then the pro establishments (I'm fluent in Spanish).
Given that this is my first visit to Cali, I won't adventure the very first night outside Granada/Versalles/Juanambú.
What non-pro places do you recommend for Friday/Saturday? Casa de la Cerveza, London Bar, Tienda Vieja?
What clubs/casas would be open late these nights (around 1 AM)? It seems that Flores Frescas went downhill. What about Club Escocés?
Is there a reasonably safe ATM area where to draw money late at night? I will ask the driver assigned to pick me up, but prefer to hear other options.
Thanks in advance.
Andres
I've never had any luck at Club Escoces, but I don't think there's a cover, so it wouldn't hurt to stop by for a drink.
If you're flying into Cali, I'd recommend hitting an ATM at the airport. It's probably one of the safest places to get cash at night. Exit the baggage claim area and go outside, then head to the right and you'll see a large staircase going up. There are several ATM's at that level.
Please remember most places in Cali thier is no cost seeing the honeys. When im in cali I would hit 4 -9 casas. Go inside waiter would ask me what I would want to drink. Tell him let me see the merchandice first. If you see something you like then ask for a drink and bring her over. If your getting a good vibe par take in some activites if not you can always leave.
Hey Andres, K-Dog ...
I've had great times in ESCOCES ... but speaking Spanish is essential ... bonding with a chica and taking her out of the place is much better.
More than several of the chicas that work there tell me that a lot of the GRINGOS that visit the club are dorks, speak no spanish and its very easy to charge them mucha plata (money).
Anyway ... good place to bond with chicas ... I've had fun there.
Escoses: best place I could find in Cali. Resembles a bit a Rio therma.
Also the only place in Cali where I felt completly secure. The quality top segment of the chicas is 7.5. Girls were very nice and sweet. What a change and what a surpise! Only bad thing is that they serve no beer.
I do recommend Kathy. Very nice, sweet and enthousiastic girl. She was very enthousiastic and performed beyond the calls of duty.
Prices were fair: For one hour P$ 40,000 (US$ 18) for the house and P$ 110,000 (US$ 48) for the girl for one hour. By the way: I am a gringo and I can speak some spanish. I did bargain a little.
Flores Frescas: some kind of combination of nightclub/casa.
Looks a bit better then the normal casas but still a bit dodgy. Quality of the top-segment of the chicas: 7.0.
At about 10:30 pm they have a nice show in which all the chicas go topless. After that there is a lesbian dildo show. Entrance: P$ 15,000 (US$ 7).
Prices for the chicas: 0.5 hour P$ 130,000 (US$ 57), 1.0 hour P$ 180,000 (US$ 80), to take to your hotel: P$ 60,000 (US$ 26) for the house and P$ 150,000 - 200,000 (US$ 65 - 88) for the chica.
I found that the chicas in Flores Frescas had an attitude problem. Like: "you are lucky you may fuck me". Beside that these prices are way too high. So my answer was NO.
Guys,
I'm going to Cali and was wondering if Valeria is still working at esconces. She was a beautiful, thin blonde. I haven't been there for 2 years.
Also, about the Dan Carlton Hotel. I stayed in what appeared to be the main building 2 years ago and my room had a few cockroaches. I was then moved to another room and it had the same number of cockroaches. Did you guys have this problem there or maybe I was in a tower that has them?
Thanks in advance.
Hi, guys.
I arrived in Cali yesterday night. After a time consuming process at the airport (20 min immigration, 20 min baggage claim, 10 min Customs search), I met Víctor, the taxi driver assigned by my hotel (Apartahotel Del Rio).
I expect to write a longer description of the city tomorrow. So far, I can say that Cali ressembles a mixture of the outskirts of Buenos Aies and northern Argentina: Disorganized, dirty, smogy, with a lot of police presence and a mountain-city arrangement but laid-back and attractive in some way. Zona Norte looks like a middle-class suburb of Buenos Aires.
Apartahotel Del Rio is OK so far ([url]www.apartahoteldelrio.com[/url]). The basic room costs me COP 95K (roughly USD 1 = COP 2.6K), and has decent furniture (nothing to rave about) and appliances. Personnel was very helpful. They helped me arrange a cell phone rental with Víctor, which costs me COP 10K per day. Maybe I can find cheaper nearby, but it´s OK for me.
Bed is OK, good enough for me but maybe not for those Searly Posturpedic freaks. The bathroom was renovated, although it only has a shower bud (no way to regulate the water temp before taking the shower).
The only serious drawback for the hotel is the street noise, and I was told that the transportation works forced traffic to pass across that corner in order to cross the Cali river. I coped with it buying today earplugs, because there were no other basic rooms available facing the back street.
The other alternative that I considered was Cora Apartasuites ([url]www.coraapartasuites.com[/url]), which costed roughly the same and is located in a more upscale and quiet neighborhood, but... no air conditioning for the basic rooms.
On to the action.
I was very enthousiasted to visit the clubs after months reading this forum. I started with Club Escocés, taking a cab to drive me to the Intercontinental (COP 4K). Since the Cali sheet says "Avenida Colombia and Calle 7A", I looked for 7A street, but I couldn´t find it. I walked around and asked for it, but no luck. Being close to 11PM, I decided to move on and visited the club next to Faraon (Avenida 2N 23N-65).
No price to enter and only COP 2K the soda. To my dismay, I found the 7-10 girls there on the 4-7 range, being the 7 a very nice blonde who I expect to visit later during the week. Most girls looked like the low tier of the boliches at Flores in Buenos Aires, either being too much uneducated, too pushy, big bellied or plainful ugly. Just for the info, I was told that prices for girls are COP 40K for 30 min and COP 50 K for the hour. Closes at 2 AM.
Left the place to go to next-door Faraon. Although having a better setup, girls were even uglier than before, with a total crew of 12-15! COP 3K the soda.
Close to midnight, I wondered if Cali was such a dump in terms of chicas quality. To confirm so, I decided to visit the infamous Flores Frescas. COP 15K the entrance, not including drinks. From the outside, it looks pretty lame, and not much better on the inside. COP 2K the soda. However, girls were several notches above the others, but not much better than what you would will find at Madahos in BA, and unfortunately with similar attitudes. I would say that all girls were doable (20 or so, most wearing street outfits with jeans, high heels and tops), but prices quoted for me were COP 150K for 30 min and COP 240K for 1 hour, so nothing to be taken very lightly.
I saw 2 very nice ladies who I wanted to talk. While deciding, a bombshell appeared. She is a 20 y/o brunette called Natalia. Has very big boobs, cute face, a nice formed butt and an hourglass figure. Only drawback is that she weares brakes.
Went into negotiation. I asked about BBBJ, and she refused but counteroffered a tip for that, and she quoted 350K for 30 min. I told her I had only COP 200K for that (including tip), she said 200 plus 30 for the room, I kept in my COP 200K. She accepted without regret, so it was a good sign. I paid to a guy and we went to the room, which looks like a room at Affaire Pueyrredon in Buenos Aires but better cleaned.
Natalia has a nice skin and a very shy attitude (not bad, just aloft). Her body is very well toned (too strong, in fact), her tits are fake and her butt look like being worked every day in the gym. Her BJ skills were acceptable, nothing to rave. She accepted several positions for sex, not rushing at all.
For what I read for Cali, I clearly overpaid, but my choices for the first night were very slim at such an advanced hour. Some guys recommended me to visit casas during the day and avoid clubs, and that is what I will do from now on.
Tomorrow, I will refer to the ChipiChape and Unicentro visits, and maybe to my non-pro action of today.
Hope this helps,
Andres
Hey amigo ... you seem like a veteran traveler ... relating Cali to Buenos Aires, detailed report, etc. ... nice job.
ESCOCES is maybe a 3-5 minute walk from the IC Hotel ... just ask a bellman at the hotel ... they know it.
You must have been SERIOUSLY enamored with that chica in Flores Frescas or EXTREMELY horny ... to pay 200K CP for 30 MINUTES!
Obviously it's your money, but really, that's ridiculous.
Next time, if you NEED to get layed ... especially, you were talking about a FRI / SAT night ... there are plenty of hot chicas on the street (la Sexta) or in the many bars / reservados ... ask just about any taxista.
Like I referred to in a recent previous post here, these chicas seriously laugh at the gringos that pay these inflated prices ... I'm not putting you down, just want you to know that there are better options out there.
When you go to ESCOCES ... sit and bond with a chica ... buy her 1 drink ... (I think Red Bull is the most expensive there ... if she orders that, beware) ... pay the salida, I think 40K CP ... and take her out.
I've never talked price with the chica (for her cut) ... not in recent history anyway.
In my experience, when a chica starts talking about plata (money), she's too professional for me and I move on. I pay her according to her level of service, GFE, sweetness, etc. I'm not a cheap-bastard ... I just pay accordingly.
I do this in just about every place I visit also, ... yes, you may lose some chicas, but I figure the experience would have probably been sub-par anyway.
This is for take out service obviously. When you visit a casa/reservado for in-house service, the price is fixed.
mucha Suerte amigo!
Hi, guys.
Yesterday, I visited other areas of Cali, some of them very nice and others very sketchy. Since there are many neighborhoods to visit, I cannot judge it very seriously. However, from the start it is clear that in average the city is poor and with not many options in terms of entertainment related to arts and in terms of turism. Not a place to live long term.
For those who went to Costa Rica, most of Cali looks like downtown San José, with few areas ressembling Escazú. Cars are parked everywhere, ofter on the sidewalks, houses and buildings are completely fenced (I didn´t see many windows without bars) and police officers bear machine guns in front of every institution that may hold money.
In terms of transportation, the city looks like Santiago de Chile. Lots of small buses painted with colours, wreaking havoc at any hour on the main arteries. Since its a valley surrounded by mountains, the city also has much smog as Santiago. Even with a clear sky it is difficult to see the whole city on the high points. As in most of Latin America, traffic is chaotic and noisy, not to mention reckless drivers.
Of course, not all areas are that bad. Granada, on the north of the city, is way much cleaner and looks like Palermo Hollywood in Buenos Aires, with lots of trendy restaurants, fashion stores and art shops. On the other hand, la olla de Cali, close to downtown (Carrera 10 to 15) are definitely to avoid.
ChipiChape and Unicentro.
Yesterday, I went to these malls to check out the girls. Perhaps it was a bad day, or perhaps I´m too picky, but I didn´t see many gorgeous girls. Let´s say 20 very attractive girls in Chipi and 10 in Unicentro, half of them in couples. There were a few sweeties going on two (two girls alone, I mean), and half a dozen average girls strolling the mall alone, which I deemed approachable (some look at you, in fact).
I won´t say that these malls don´t have nice girls since I had only one visit, but for what understood in other reports, I didn´t see tons of beautiful girls.
Non-pro action
I had my first date with a girl who I met in an Internet site. We went to a very good restaurant in Granada area, called Platillos Voladores (Avenida 9 and Calle 12N or so). They serve a nice selection of Thai-Latin fusion food. It wasn´t cheap (COP 130K, including everything), but it was worth.
My girl was not a bombshell, but not ugly either, just a nice girl a little chubby. We had a great time. My experience with Internet girls is that if you are charming and do not push for sex, things flow smoothly. This case wasn´t the exception and she was VERY passionate.
More to come today or tomorrow.
Hope this helps,
Andres
[QUOTE=Ricker]You must have been SERIOUSLY enamored with that chica in Flores Frescas or EXTREMELY horny ... to pay 200K CP for 30 MINUTES!
Obviously it's your money, but really, that's ridiculous.
Next time, if you NEED to get layed ... especially, you were talking about a FRI / SAT night ... there are plenty of hot chicas on the street (la Sexta) or in the many bars / reservados ... ask just about any taxista.
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You are right, Ricker. it´s too much money. However, I don´t mind to overpay very seldom if the situation forces me to do so.
If I had been very familiar with Cali before coming, I would have dared to stroll for SW the very first day of my arrival or go for the good clubs, but I didn´t want to take the risk, even asking taxistas who usually aren´t very much concerned about your security as they are with the commissions they may get.
Overpayment should be a very important concern of us, but security comes first, especially if it is your first trip to Colombia. Now I know what La Sexta looks like and would dare to look for pussy there.
Cheers,
Andres
Does anyone know the address where they have billiards with nude attendants I rember reading about this some time ago and would like to visit this place for a drink or two
Hi, guys.
Third day was spent with non-pro action. I knew this girl through the latin Match.com. Without any doubt, she is very hot, very smart and has a strong personality. She drove me to Jamandi, where I tasted the cholado (kind of fruity icecream with condensed milk and pieces of fruit, another surrealistic experience here), showed me the nice neighborhoods of the city (especially Ciudad Jardín), brought me to her home (pretty brave from her part...) and had a very romantic dinner at the artsy San Antonio neighborhood, eating Colombain food with a landscape of the city as a background.
Today on the morning, I did more turism, especially the historic buildings at Downtown. I met the previous date for lunch (the chubby one). Nice experience, revealing a common concern of the 2 Caleñas who I met (fidelity and commitment if entering a serious relation). A 2-3 hour tour around Downtown and neighboring places is more than enough to see most of the touristic attractions of metropolitan Cali.
On the afternoon, I visited 4 casas.
- Clínica del Doctor Amor. It is located at Avenida 2N #23-XX. It is the house next to the corner with a parking lot with green fabrics covering the fence (actually, the parking lot belongs to them). Inside, I saw a patio with 6-8 sofas where guys waited for the girls. They introduced themselves with a handshake. As of the owners, there were 15 girls. I saw 10-12, so the number is believable. Most of them I think are 4-7s, kind of good Dolly's material in BA. Didn't ask for prices and left. Open until 8 PM. So far, as a places as a whole, it was the best.
Good news: I saw a kind of upgraded facility being built (workers coming and going with tools), so they may have all-new and acceptable facilities in the short term.
- Lo Maximo: Same address as in the Cali sheet. The palce was a dump, with only 4 girls, sleepy and wearing flip-flops, as if they just finished siesta. I was told that they have a crew from 6 PM to 6 AM, to come later.
- Avenida 2Bis N #28-57: Advertised at the Sunday edition of El Pais. Another dump, with only very young 3 girls, of which one may be a 6-7. Left immediately.
- Calle 23AN #2N-95: This place, also advertised at El Pais, looked much cleaner and professional than the previous ones. They showed me 6 girls, most between 5-7 from my scale. One of the 7s is Cristal, a tall paisa girl with OK body and very nice face. I chose her, prices being COP 35K for 30 minutes and COP 45 for 1 hour.
VERY good experience. I asked her a BBBJ for a tip, which she pleasantly agreed being the tip "at my will". What a hell of a BBBJTC! She really deep-throated. After the pop, she engaged in a nice conversation. Great!
Overall, I can say that the casas scene of Cali ressembles that of BA: Cheap girls, cheap prices, more suitable for a quickie than for services of long hours.
I may visit Escocés at night, just to see the ambience.
Hope this helps,
Andres
In case that you need a map of Cali, you will be told to go to a branch of Librería Nacional. There, you will find a very basic and untreated (non-plastified) map of not very good quality for COP 18K. Too much, I think.
Today, I found many street vendors in Downtown's Plaza Caicedo selling similar maps for COP 3K.
Hope this helps,
Andres
Andres,
Yes, I agree with your assessment of Cali.
The cheap end of the market is very well represented with the different casas and SWs. Sometimes you can get lucky and find a girl that really does it for you, but rarely would she be classy or the complete package. And the facilities of these places are basic.
The high-end places are not so great, you pay premium prices and often get a girl with a not so great attitude.
If you want a medium priced experience with a great looking girl, this is hard to find in Cali. I am certain it can be done, if you make some local contacts and put the word out for anyone who knows prepago girls (semi pros). I have never been in Cali long enough to do this, but I am sure they're out there... you just need to work for it a bit.
Cachorro:
I had exactly the same impression. The more time you spend in Cali, the better connections with locals you make and the easier to find what you are looking for.
Andres
Yesterday night, by 10:30 PM, I finally arrived to this club.
The place looks like Catto's in BA, with tables being replaced by horseshoe-shaped couches around round tables. Dark inside, but not very much.
There were 15 girls, most of them doable, ranking from 5 to 8, all of them in underwear or tiny clothes. A couple of caleñas approached me and, since they were very charming, I invited them with ron (COP 13K each) while I ordered a soda (COP 5K). We had a nice time talking about many things. I found out that my bad luck with ChipiChape was due to an event at Downtown the same day that dragged these girls. Maybe next weekend returns to norma, but I doubt so because it is a "puente" (3-day weekend).
Prices for inhouse: COP 125K for 30 min and COP 240K for 1 hour.
As for a night-time establishment, it looks like much better than Flores Frescas, although FF has just a little bit better quality in terms of girls (not very much). However, as a chica pointed out, you can see what you get in Escocés, while in FF they hide their flaws beneath the clothes.
Hope this helps,
Andres
Hi, guys.
Even though I'm devoting my trip to non-pro action and tourism, I found some time to visit some casas. I did 3 of them yesterday:
- Calle 13A #17-32: Located in the 2nd floor of a house, this place is a dump. 7 dark skinned, unmotivated and unattractive girls greeted me, while the madame told me the price (COP 13K for massage, additionals being arranged with the girl). Left immediately.
- Carrera 17 #4A-16: Located very close to the Loma de la Cruz handcraft alley, this place was just a notch better in terms of girls, but anyway didn't convinced me because of their attitude (their handshake feels like a wet cloth).
- Carrera 50 #10-XX: Much better place, with girls looking close to acceptable. Unfortunately, they also looked unmotivated.
After some research, I found the casas scene in Cali very "hit or miss". I believe it is useful for those who live there and can devote a lot of time finding where are the good ones, but not for short-term stays.
My advise is to go directly to the night clubs such as Club Escocés, of which you only have a handful in Cali.
Hope this helps,
Andres
I just returned from a two and a half week trip to Cali. This was my second trip to Cali, so I had a better sense of familiarity with the city. I had some phone numbers of internet amigas, and also of chicas from my previous trip in April that I had either dated, banged or just met and not yet followed through with. I need to leave myself notes in my cell phone to spark my memory of who these girls are. I’ve got 2 Alejandras, and I don’t remember which is the one from the casa or the one I met in 14 de Calima (a shopping mall).
I was chatting on MSN with one of my online amigas, a cute morena, for several weeks prior to my arrival. She insisted on picking me up at the airport. I arrived at 11pm on Continental. She was was waiting with her sister, the sister’s 2 year old son and a girlfriend (with a late model Mazda3). I’m more often than not disappointed when I meet internet girls in person, but she looked hot. We drive into town holding hands in the backseat. I offer to pay for gas and the friend refuses. We stop at my hotel to drop off my bags, and I suggest we all go out for some drinks, but the friend and sister decline as they have to put the baby to bed. But my girl (let’s call her Milena) is up for whatever. We stroll down to 6th and stop in at Douglass. I order a pitcher and we talk, and we dance, and we talk some more. “Do I look the same in person as in the webcam?” No mi amor, mucho mejor. “Verdad?” Verdad!
We end up back at my hotel a few pitchers and several dances later. “Necesitas lecciones de salsa.” Si, pero prefiero aprender desnudo aqui en mi hotel. She giggles, and we’re soon making out and ripping eachother’s clothes off. The trip is off to a good start!
Hi, guys.
RUMBA IN CALI
I visited Blues Brothers on Thursday, Changó (a Juanchito disco) on Friday and another salsa disco on Saturday. All with non-pro escorts
BB is an interesting place to watch live music, while Changó is great for a mix of Latin rhythms (salsa, merengue, bachata, reggaton). For a salsa freak like me, this is heaven.
I never saw a place in the World where people dance as much as in Cali. Maybe Cuba ressembles it, but still a far second. There are bars, discos, salsatecas, etc, all around every corner. I wonder how these places make enough to break even. Maybe it's the alcohol consumption, since at Changó I ordered 2 beers instead of ron or aguardiente (COP 80K the bottle) and we were kicked to a table away from the dancing floor.
WRAP UP
Basically, as Cachorro poined out before, Cali is a great destination for P4P if you have enough time to explore, let's say 3-4 weeks. This way, you can visit enough clubs and casas on different days to find what suits your tastes and needs.
However, Cali is much better in terms of non-pros. If you have the time and you are lucky (no Uribe presidential ceremonies nor Cali anniversaries) you will find many cuties in malls and La Sexta. Not to mention the Internet sites, which were extremely helpful to me.
As I said before, the Valle del Cauca department merits a 2 day visit. An ISG member board joined me, my sweetie and another girl to a trip to Ginebra to eat the famous sancocho de gallina. He got a nice time with his girl, too.
I end up spending the majority of my first couple of days with Milena the morena, but do manage to shake her for an afternoon of mongering. I head down to Dr. Love to check out the selection. About 12 - 15 girls, mostly very mediocre. But one light skinned chica with thick dark hair and a decent rack catches my eye, and for 38,000 an hour how could I say no?
Milena invites me to an asado (BBQ) at her aunts house. I get good and drunk on the omnipresent aguardiente that my hosts insist on pouring down my throat. Everybody's dancing, drinking and eating. My hosts make fun of my inept salsa moves, but applaud when I shake it to the reggeaton. I drag all the women onto the dance floor, even the abuela. Great fun.
We head back to my hotel making out in the cab. We're both pretty slammed. As soon as we're in the room Milena starts blowing me with such force that I fear injury. Easy mi amor, this trip is just beginning! This chica's on fire tonight. As I'm banging her doggie, she slides me out and tells me to put it in her ass. "Pone lo en el culo!" Si? I ask "Si!" You don't have to twist my arm. Good thing I've got my KY lube in the nightstand. I ease in slowly and she moans. Smack that ass! Te gusta?(You like it?) "Si!" Duele? (It hurts?) "Si, pero es un dolor excitante." (It's an exciting pain). We finish off missionary, and I guess Milena likes giving as well as receiving pain because she does the reach around and inserts at least half a finger in my arse - lubeless. Ouch! Made me shoot my load though.
We get up the next day and it's more of the same. This girl has a thing for the arsehole. Hers and mine. "Quiero violarte" (I want to violate you) she tells me with a wicked grin while lubing up her finger for insertion. Me first baby! On all fours and get that brown ass pointing skyward!
The weekend's fast approaching and I've got to spread my seed elsewhere. Besides which I don't know how much more abuse the old arsehole can take. I tell Milena I'll call her. She let's me buy her breakfast but refuses my offer of 7,000 COP for a taxi. In any case, I've got to get home and take a dump. This girl definitely loosened things up in there!
Milena, Milena my wicked morena.
Why do you want to put my arse in such pain-a?
You crack me up amigo!
Glad you had fun in Cali ... sorry we didn't hook up again ... we left town for a visit to Armenia.
Hope to see you there again soon!
Ricker, what's up?? Glad that my tale of violation made you laugh. I'm happy to share my most embarrasing moments with you and the rest of the ISG community. And so, back to the story:
My first weekend in Cali this trip and I'm free! I call my buddy "W" to share the good news:
"Sup bro?" I ask. "Wanna meet me for lunch?"
"Sure.... 2 o'clock La Brasa Rojo. You shake your cyber-ho yet?"
"She just left."
Yeah?"
Yeah!"
Later in La Brasa Rojo:
"Hey, remember your last night in town back in April? Well your girl Claudia (name changed to protect the not so innocent) has been pining for you ever since."
*Note: She left me blue-balled on my final night in Cali after slow dancing valleñato with me. The night ended with me using all of my limited charm to get her back to my hotel to no avail while her friend blew "W" behind the drawn curtain in his studio apt. In her defense it was our first date.
"Get outa here! Really?"
"Really. I guess she's got a thing for ugly bald dudes."
"Screw you!"
"Screw you too! But seriously, you're totally in with her. I told that girl to get on the pill for you. I've been banging her sister. I told her you're back in town."
"Damn.... who's better than you?" I lift my right butt cheek to release some gas and fear that something more has slid out. Damn that Milena!
"You ok?"
"Uhhh..... yeah. Be right back. Gotta use the bathroom."
So I call up Claudia and she's happy to see me after work. We meet up for some drinks and dancing, and this time it's she who presses the issue of going back to the hotel. "No quieres invitarme a tu hotel?" (you don't want to invite me to your hotel?). You don't have to ask me that question twice! "Vamos!"
Seen that "Chica" with my own eyes and those pics dont do her justice! Much prettier in person! It was a pleasure "Chillin" wit you Gringo and partying, We gotta rent the Chiva again ha ha. You're a stand-up guy dont change! Hey hows my novias cooking? Awesome right? Hot, Sexy, Loving, Humble and CAN COOK?.= Goldmine! peace "Chino"
[QUOTE=Gringo Loco]Ricker, what's up?? Glad that my tale of violation made you laugh. I'm happy to share my most embarrasing moments with you and the rest of the ISG community. And so, back to the story:
My first weekend in Cali this trip and I'm free! I call my buddy "W" to share the good news:
"Sup bro?" I ask. "Wanna meet me for lunch?"
"Sure.... 2 o'clock La Brasa Rojo. You shake your cyber-ho yet?"
"She just left."
Yeah?"
Yeah!"
Later in La Brasa Rojo:
"Hey, remember your last night in town back in April? Well your girl Claudia (name changed to protect the not so innocent) has been pining for you ever since."
*Note: She left me blue-balled on my final night in Cali after slow dancing valleñato with me. The night ended with me using all of my limited charm to get her back to my hotel to no avail while her friend blew "W" behind the drawn curtain in his studio apt. In her defense it was our first date.
"Get outa here! Really?"
"Really. I guess she's got a thing for ugly bald dudes."
"Screw you!"
"Screw you too! But seriously, you're totally in with her. I told that girl to get on the pill for you. I've been banging her sister. I told her you're back in town."
"Damn.... who's better than you?" I lift my right butt cheek to release some gas and fear that something more has slid out. Damn that Milena!
"You ok?"
"Uhhh..... yeah. Be right back. Gotta use the bathroom."
So I call up Claudia and she's happy to see me after work. We meet up for some drinks and dancing, and this time it's her who presses the issue of going back to the hotel. "No quieres invitarme a tu hotel?" (you don't want to invite me to your hotel?). You don't have to ask me that question twice! "Vamos!"[/QUOTE]
MiamiHeatLuver..... Whassup Chino!! It was nice meeting you and your nutball NYPD pal as well. Good partying with you.
I get a call one evening from Mr. Heat Luver himself (a.k.a. Chino) inviting me out on a chiva: "We're meeting in front of Cali Plaza at about 10:00. Be there."
Well sure enough I was there. Chino was travelling with his usual entourage consisting of his novia (a sweet & sexy caleña - my hat's off to you bro), cuñado (brother-in-law, or in this case possible future brother-in-law), novia del cuñado, amigo del cuñado, cuñada, extended circle of friends and family of the novia, Ramon, assorted chicas, the aformentioned NYPD nutball, myself, my girl Claudia, my boy "W", his chica of the moment. Anyway, the chiva's packed with beer and booze, the music is blaring and off we go rolling down the streets of Cali on a journey of inebriation.
"Everything's taken care of", Chino informs me. Generous dude, Mr. Heat Luver. And a party animal to boot. We roll along for the first hour or two until the booze is depleted, then make a stop for more booze. "Dame 6 Club Colombias, 6 Costeñas, 6 Aguilas, 6 Heinekens.... " I hear the words tumble out of my mouth. We roll on, drinking, dancing, making out with our chicas. We come to a stop back where we started and the gang is going to Mi Cacharrito, a late night place for more partying.
I remember stopping in for one more drink and then making my way back to the hotel with Claudia. She had to be at work at 7:00 and we probably didn't even get back to the room until 3:00. We fucked, slept, fucked some more and then she left around 6:00. I don't know how she did it. I slept until at least noon.
Good time! And yes Chino, your girl is hot and she cooks great too. But with all that you're still a dog, just like me. I'd like to imagine though, that if I had a girl like yours I'd make a stab at being faithful....... well maybe a small stab..... Ahh, who am I kidding?
Sounds like you guys had mucho fun ... I doubt I could hang with you guys though ... I'm getting too old for all night party busses I think.
We did get shitfaced at a Vallenato concert one night though on a few bottles of the aguardiente ... mi novia and I.
HEAT ... got your PM ... I'd love to hook up with you too ... I'm usually in Cali quite a bit ... hopefully the next time.
LOCO ... sorry we didn't hook-up again ... my girl's friend turned out to be pretty hot ... she was out of town that week you were around ... maybe next time amigo.
My novia refers to you as Calbo chevere and FREEZE is Calbo armargado cause he was in a bad mood that night we all met and you're a happy, fun dude. No offense FREEZE ... you know we dig ya amigo.
Take care y Suerte!
you never offered to let me meet your novia's friend, but I understand. Gotta shave my head like Freeze then maybe I can be kalbo tranquillo LOL! Greg is clearly Kalbo loco LOL!
I am taking a break from Colombia and getting back into the PI, but if your girl ever finds her long lost gemela I will be back hasta pronto LOL!
Based on quite a few comments I've read in various threads and my own experience I started wondering if Cali is over fished at this point? The non pros just seem too stuck up. Is it possible that it's cuz I'm not spending enough time.
Try the Medellin Mansion in Medellin ..............................
My experience in Cali is limited. But I do not feel that MDE or CTG are overfished especially if you can spend some time.
Many guys are saying that CTG has gone to hell. I have more puss than I can handle in CTG, but I live there about 7 months per year. All you need is a little Spanish and a friendly demeanor. Pesos help too.
The only thing i am wondering as I am here is why i havent been here sooner....the non pro action is alive and hopping...much better than Caracas and Medellin combined. Don´t fly cont. airlines...they lost about 10 peoples bags and it took them 5 days to return them to me. Other than that i´m having the time of my life.
Thanks to Gringo loco who hooked me up with his boy who lives in Cali i wasted no time picking non pro chicas. Alex and Omar own about 15 optical-body piercing joints in town and go to the malls (unicentro-chippichape) to hand out cards to EVERY hot girl they see and i slide right in after the initial contact has been made. They are typical latin dogs who just hound the shit out of a girl until we get their phone numbers. To come out of a mall with less than 5 digits is a failure.
My personal favorite non pro pickup spot is Tropical Cocktails on 6th ave and 25th street. We´ve picked up 3 sets of girls there in my 1 week here so far and the girl i met last night is clearly out of my league back home, and that is something i never say, so clearly this is where the trendiest hotties are. All girls here are of the South Beach-Soho type of fashionistas and the drinks here are expensive so if you come here come ready to spend. Typical 18-25 aged chicas and not particuarly impressed to meet gringos so bring game. This is a place GringoLoco has to come to. The 2 2nd dates i´ve set up here have both led to sex and the hottie i met last night i plan to go out with tomorrow. Doesn´t hurt that i live in the Terrazas de Granada building which is a lux and has the best view. A couple glasses of wine and its a done deal.
Wish you guys were here because the majority of the gringos here now are complete douche bags. All they do is complain about how Cali isnt Rio, how they dont want to pay the girls cab fare, how they dont want to share the bar tab because they are ¨my¨ girls, ect. These guys all they want to do is to bang 30000 cum buckets. Tacano is the word most often used to describe these people Colombia. Its no surprise Colombians think all Americans are so cheap.
The only pro i have been with is Camila who is the hottest girl the flower guy Mike has. ITs 130,000 hr. Some guy paid her 500,000 for 2hr. Dont be that guy!! Went with Oscar which is another one of GL´s guys and met the owner of Tienda Vieja which is THE sunday place. He knows every beautiful girl in town and I´m having lunch with him tomorrow. Great connection to have for sure. Oscar is also great for ¨fetching¨beautiful girls you see in the street or mall. If he says he has a beautiful girl he know, don´t trust him on that. WEll at least his and my tastes are quite different.
More to report later.
AA loses LOTS of bags too and unlike in the US, they do NOT deliver them to your hotel (you must go back to the friggin airport!)
Glad you are enjoying Cali, but think about the effect of overhyping it (I speak from experience I am embarassed to say). 130K per hour for an indie is STILL over the market in Cali no matter how hot she is IMHO.
You comments about all the douchbag americans show how much things have changed in 3 years because it used to be if you avoided Flores Frescas and the Intercontiental hotel, you'd NEVER see Americans. ):
[QUOTE=Rob Hay]The only thing i am wondering as I am here is why i havent been here sooner....the non pro action is alive and hopping...much better than Caracas and Medellin combined.[/quote]
It's nothing particular about Cali, you just happen to have better contacts in that city. The same thing can be done anywhere in Colombia. If you visited Cali for a week without those contacts, you'd be back to square one.
[quote]Its no surprise Colombians think all Americans are so cheap.
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I disagree with that generalisation, and I think most Colombians also would. Usually you'll hear the opposite.
Glad you're enjoying your trip!
Friday, 4 August 2006 BBC News
Car bomb kills five in Colombia
The blast left a crater in the road and damaged nearby vehicles
A car bomb has exploded outside a police station in the Colombian city of Cali, killing at least five people. Four of the dead are police officers; the fifth is said to be the driver. No-one has admitted responsibility.
The attack comes three days before President Alvaro Uribe - known for his hard line against left-wing rebels - is due to be sworn in for a second term.
Colombia has seen decades of fighting among rebels, right-wing paramilitaries and state forces.
Friday's bomb reportedly exploded as the car passed in front of a police station in the El Vallado neighbourhood in the east of the city - Colombia's second largest.
The blast produced a column of smoke which rose above Cali, the Associated Press news agency reported.
Several people injured in the blast - including four police officers - were taken to hospital, Efe news agency reported.
El Valle state Governor Angelino Garzon told a local radio station he blamed leftist rebel group the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (Farc) for the "terrorist" attack.
Let's not forget that Colombia is not The DR or Costa Rica. Intractable, long term problems do exist. Violence, crime, panhandlers and filfth are all part of the experience, especially in Cali. Sure, we can go down and monger for a few weeks and most likely not get shot or kidnapped by the FARC. The greatest annoyance will no doubt be the everpresent overeager panhandlers. A few coins and they're on their way. But one must be alert at all times. Don't get hammered and stagger home alone. Don't accept everything at face value. Keep alert.
Between Cali and Medellin, Medellin hands down is the way nicer city. It's cleaner, better organized, more modern with a state of the art 10 year old metro system. Not to say that Medellin is problem free. Just like Cali, there are high and low end barrios. The pay for play scene is better developed in Medellin. In Cali it's largely hit or miss. Despite Cali's shortcomings, I've now got some friends there and chicas that I can call when I roll into town. That's a huge plus for me.
Cuba is actually my favorite hunting grounds for non-pro chicas. I've been there several times over the last 3 years. As long as you avoid the tourist centers of Havana, the pickings are unbelievably easy. Forget the 2 date rule (as is my experience in Colombia). It's 2 hours. But after playing cat and mouse with US Customs and dealing with the lack of infrastructure there, I've moved on.
In Cuba I feel invincible, like a rock star. There's almost no girl that I want that I won't get. In Colombia not so. I simply feel like a guy with an edge. Certainly not every chica that I hit on is going to give me her number. And just getting the number doesn't mean that I'll get in her pants. I've still got to work it. Set up the date, wine, dine, drink, dance, blah blah blah. Weed out the whackjobs and golddiggers in the process. Generally don't have too spend much money, but it's an investment of time and the opportunity cost of that time when I've only got two and half weeks of it. Just a guy with an edge. But I'll take that edge. Shit yeah.
I had some drinks one night with AntiFreeze and his lovely novia. He introduced me to the infamous Screwed Up (quite a character), who made some comparisons between Colombia and Peru. In Colombia, single women almost never go out alone but usually in groups of mixed company, guys and chicas, and in most clubs eveybody sits at tables as opposed to walking around. Hard to tell if they're alone or not without directly approaching the table, which might be a risky proposition. In Peru not so. Single women out alone and in groups of just chicas making their availability more obvious. And the two date rule need not always apply. He did say that the percentage of really hot girls is far greater in Colombia than in Peru, but we don't fuck percentages do we? It also narrows down the selection process. So, next stop: Cali or Lima?
[QUOTE=Cachorro]It's nothing particular about Cali, you just happen to have better contacts in that city. The same thing can be done anywhere in Colombia. If you visited Cali for a week without those contacts, you'd be back to square one.
I completely agree and that why I'm glad i did my hw and talked to the right people prior to coming down there. I think Calenas are easier to meet and get to know, and bed than Paisas. At least that is my experience.......i never gotten laid that easily in Medellin. And the dangers of Caracas just makes it too dangerous to hang out these days.
I was going to make this trip 2 weeks in Cali and 3 in Medellin but I like this place alot so I'm just gonna stay put.
Surfer, Sorry to have overhyped this place to everyone but in my opin i dont think this place is going to ever going to be completely overun by gringos. Alot of guys come with the attitude that if you buy a non pro 10 an ice cream she gonna bang, then get pissed out when it doesnt happen and complain how in Rio girls are all over them. Then they spend the rest of their trip in a hole in a wall casa. Well these guys go home angry and spreads the word to their friends how much Cali sucks. So the way i see it there will be less gringos here not more.
GL is right being American only gives an edge...you still have to work for it and no question, for ever phone number i get with these guys we get rejected about 5 times so its still work and a bit surprising at first but anyone that doesnt mind rejection will be sucessful here.
I've been visiting Cali and Medellin very regularly for years also ... except for a short time-out in Venezuela.
Venezuela is a different deal ... and has changed for the worse recently (political / crime / etc) ... can be discussed in that section.
As far as Cali vs Medellin for Gringos ... Medellin, as a whole, has Cali beat by a mile. As Gringo Loco and others have said before.
From the climate, to the cleanliness / organization of the city, the nice Metro system, the better PFP options, the Medellin Mansion and other clubs like it, the lighter skin, euro-looking Paisias that guys like, etc, etc.
Medellin wins hands-down.
Especially including the increased crime / danger in Cali as opposed to Medellin.
What Rob Hay is referring to is the difference in basic attitude / culture in Cali.
Don't get me wrong, Paisas, the people of Medellin, are very nice and courteous people in general.
Obviously the girls are beautiful too.
In Cali though, there is more of a happy-go-lucky attitude in general ... the Calenos and the Calenas (guys and girls).
I enjoy Cali for it's people ... but for a Gringo going on vacation to enjoy Colombia ... Cartagena for the guys that like the coast and mucho PFP ... and Medellin for the guys to enjoy a nice city, nice people with beautiful chicas and good PFP.
For first timers or guys that dig convenience, places like the Medellin Mansion are perfect.
Suerte!
Ricker,
I have been living in Peru for the last 7 months or so, and I am seriously considering moving to Medellin for extended period of time, perhaps a few years. I'm not so much interested in P4P scene, but I would like to know how the non-pro action is in Medellin. I'm a gringo in my early 30's, my spanish is so so, but getting better everyday, Coming from Peru, where it is easy to hookup with non-pros anywhere you go, would it be that in Medellin as well. I've heard some stories where many have the colombian chicas are a bit snobbish, You seem like you know Colombia pretty well, whats your opinion on this? Thanks!
VDM
[QUOTE=Voodooman]Ricker,
I have been living in Peru for the last 7 months or so, and I am seriously considering moving to Medellin for extended period of time, perhaps a few years. I'm not so much interested in P4P scene, but I would like to know how the non-pro action is in Medellin. I'm a gringo in my early 30's, my spanish is so so, but getting better everyday, Coming from Peru, where it is easy to hookup with non-pros anywhere you go, would it be that in Medellin as well. I've heard some stories where many have the colombian chicas are a bit snobbish, You seem like you know Colombia pretty well, whats your opinion on this? Thanks!
VDM[/QUOTE]
Voodooman,
You should talk to Screwedup about this(expert on both locales). Most of us (living in Lima) already know the answer.
Helpful hint on MDE!
Before going put all the clothes and money you are planning to take on the bed in front of you. Now, remove half the clothes and add twice the money!
LB
Better watch it. You don't want my kind of ugly Gringo in Peru.
You are piquing my interest.
[QUOTE=Tom 33]Better watch it. You don't want my kind of ugly Gringo in Peru.
You are piquing my interest.[/QUOTE]
Tom33,
Normally no, but you have grown on me lately. We get far more Gringos and other tourists then your beloved CTG, but because most girls give it away it keeps the prices in check!
LB
Tom33,
Normally no, but you have grown on me lately. We get far more Gringos and other tourists then your beloved CTG, but because most girls give it away it keeps the prices in check!
LB
Tourists yes, but SEX tourists no. I think more gringos go to CTG these days seeking sex than go to Lima for that purpose. IMHO Lima gets more diverse types of travelers but not that many going specicifically for sex (unlike CTG) ,
[QUOTE=Lima Busy]
"...most girls give it away it keeps the prices in check!"
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Now you have me worried. The most expensive pussy is the "free" pussy. One of the chicas that I am currently dating never asked for a peso for the first year. Of course I paid for dinners and transportation. Then a family problem cost me over a million pesos. About six months later she needed a million to catch up on her bills. About 2 1/2 years in, it has cost around 3 million total. I am not complaining, she is great. Her idea of a good time is whatever makes me happy. She wants more sex than I do. Every time we have sex, we start with a half-hour blow job. But it ain't free.
If I pay by the piece, I know what it is going to cost.
[QUOTE=Surfer]Tourists yes, but SEX tourists no.[/QUOTE]
What is wrong with sex tourists? Isn't that kind of what this board is about? There certainly are assholes among sex tourists. But there are asshole travelers and asshole Colombians as well. I just try to avoid the assholes.
I have met many sex tourists and have many of them as friends. Even some of the assholes who post on ISG are good guys(me excluded).
if you look at it in terms of $$$ $1300 for 21/2 years of sex, its a great deal but if it were me the first time she asked for $$$ she would have seen my "skid marks" from me peeling out! lol my novia is self supportive and would get insulted if i sent her money, but i do bring her nice gifts though, so we all pay for it somehow! one way or another! peace "chino"
[quote=tom 33]now you have me worried. the most expensive pussy is the "free" pussy. one of the chicas that i am currently dating never asked for a peso for the first year. of course i paid for dinners and transportation. then a family problem cost me over a million pesos. about six months later she needed a million to catch up on her bills. about 2 1/2 years in, it has cost around 3 million total. i am not complaining, she is great. her idea of a good time is whatever makes me happy. she wants more sex than i do. every time we have sex, we start with a half-hour blow job. but it ain't free.
if i pay by the piece, i know what it is going to cost.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Tom 33].....The most expensive pussy is the "free" pussy.......[/QUOTE]Last time I checked there was no such thing as a free lunch either!! What is the world coming to?
Polvo
[QUOTE=Tom 33]Now you have me worried. The most expensive pussy is the "free" pussy. One of the chicas that I am currently dating never asked for a peso for the first year. Of course I paid for dinners and transportation. Then a family problem cost me over a million pesos. About six months later she needed a million to catch up on her bills. About 2 1/2 years in, it has cost around 3 million total. I am not complaining, she is great. Her idea of a good time is whatever makes me happy. She wants more sex than I do. Every time we have sex, we start with a half-hour blow job. But it ain't free.
If I pay by the piece, I know what it is going to cost.[/QUOTE]
Tom and Heat,
I guess I should have qualified my comment about "free sex". I also am a expert at paying for free sex (a wife & son). I was not talking about girlfriends here but I agree with Heat that $1300.00 for 2 1/2 years of free sex is a bargain.
Here in Lima it is best described as "casual sex/bootycall/partnering or pairing off. I admit that it is more common amongst ex-pat 20 y/o's but us middle aged guys see it as well. (see "que ladrilla's" report on TR-san miguel in the lima section).
The key's are 1.conversational spanish 2.location
Every night of the week there is free action to be had if you know where to go on a specific night. ex.(TR-SM is well known for Sunday nights). The biggest problem (for me) is it generally occurs (in bars) between 4-8 am. For us older guy's,We would rather go to bed than get free sex(actually not free as sleep has value as well).
Just OMHO,YMMV
LB
[QUOTE=Lima Busy]
The biggest problem (for me) is it generally occurs (in bars) between 4-8 am. For us older guy's,We would rather go to bed than get free sex(actually not free as sleep has value as well).
LB[/QUOTE]
I prefer to go to bed around 9:00 pm alone. Afternoon delights appeal to me.
Heat, she is self-supporting, but social workers don't make a lot of money. And she is supporting 5 kids and her grandmother. Seems that her ex makes very little as well.
Partying can have bad effect on the body and i am sure feeling it after a week in a half of non stop partying. So i join the Escandanavia gym, this place is so packed with hotties i wished i had joined a when i first came here.
The thing i am finding as i am dating in the higest league here is that its not happening within two dates anymore....i find myself wondering should i lower my standards or just keep trying. Luckily i have also found myself a sure thing via Oscar and I hounding the girls at Palmetto mall. I will have some pictures shortly and of course my contacts will be yours when i leave.
In addition for the starfucker out there my contact that owns Tienda Vieja bar has a connections at Top Class which is a modelling agency. Take a look at the models featured on [url]www.caliescali.com[/url]. I didnt ask prices but i might before i leave although right now it doesnt appear that i will need it.
I went to Fresca Flores and Escoses just to check out these well renowned places and i must say both were major disappointments. Obviously all guys tastes differ but I don´t think any girl in either places were doable IMHO. I assume at one point in time these places both had hotties but it has gone downhill and i cannot recommend anyone spend a dime in either place. THe 2 casas i was dragged to on 2nd Ave were quite bad as well. The only P4P action that is worth the money are the independants.
TO anyone in Cali this weekend there is the annual ¨Black and White Sensation Party. at Lago Calima. DJ Tiesto and DJ TOny Puccio headlines this international party at this lake 2 hours away. All the hotties I know in town are heading out there and I´m sure every young hottie in town will be headed out there. Cali itself will be pretty dead. Will report after this weekend
You must sift through MANY a rhinestone to find one, but they are there I assure you. Some guys think if Flores Frescas' chicas are beat for 200,000, imagine how ugly the 35,000 Peso chicas must be. I LOVE this kind of thinking (as it keeps the number of foreigners at south side casas WAY down).
Ask Ricker for my taxista friend Fernando's number (I assume your Spanish is good) and he will show you TONS of casas you would never find otherwise. Please pay him well (no less than 20,000 per hour).
I love Calima on weekends. Can be SURPRISINGLY cool up there, so bring long pants and a jacket for late afternoons which are almost always windy and can get foggy too).
Thanks for the info i will get in touch with Fernando. You guys are always talking about the diamond in the rough, so i may as well give it a try at least one day.
I will be staying in Cali before I go to Cartegna. I need some advise at to where to stay in Cali. Im looking for a comfortable sleeping arrangment where I can bring a girl to spend the night. I would like something with a balcony. North or south will be ok no prefrence. Can someone recommend something. I called a phone number of a condo from the board but they didnt know what I was talking about my spanish is ok. So obviously it was outdated info. Any info would help I will be there this comming weekend so any help would be appreciated. This is my 4 time in cali but first time I will stay at a hotel othe r times I stayed at familys house but its hard sneaking a girl in all the time. jejejeje.
Thanks in advance.
www. hotelplazaversalles.com.
Its near ave sexta 50$ anite.
Guest friendly
Hotel Plaza Versailles is in a Good location. I stayed there once when I arrived late without a reservation and my regulars spots were full. Think they gouged me for $70 or so but when its late and the chica is waiting, you have VERY little bargaining power ):
Luis: Don Jaime has LARGE balconies, though the noise from the Sexta below can make sleeping difficult. BEST place in town with balconies is Casa de Alferez, which USED to be my main hotel in Cali until my special discount left (with the sales manager) and they doubled the price (which they get because Euro tour groups all stay here as they book it through Sofitel).
Hey amigo ... tried to PM you ... your INBOX is lleno ... full.
Just back from a week or so in Cali / Pereira ... mostly with my girlfriend but I did have a great first night in Cali chasing PFP with my taxi buddy.
We visited a lot of casas and night-clubs and had lots of fun ... in general, the quality in Cali for PFP is nowhere near that in Medellin or Cartagena ... but as Surfer recently stated, you can find the diamond in the rough out there ... just takes more searching.
If I was a PFP seeker / vacationer ... I would choose another destination over Cali for sure.
Cali is great for it's care-free type people ... the great friends and atmosphere ... and non-pro chicas if your spanish is decent.
Went to Pereira with my novia to visit the Hot Springs (Termales calientes).
The bus ride was an adventure ... no security problems ... just an adventure :).
The springs were fantastic! Lots of fun in Santa Rosa, pueblo outside Pereira and at the hot springs.
A bit crowded though ... happened to be the celebration of the founding of Pereira or something like that ... but still in the crowds at the springs ... many beautiful chicas in bikinis ... nice.
I wouldn't go there alone though, almost have to bring a chica with you ... everyone is with family or couples.
Had a chance to venture out one night in Periera though ... actually with the brother of my novia, so I had to be careful ... but he wanted to take me out.
I have to say ... the quality of PFP in Pereira, IMHO, is lacking greatly.
FREEZE ... sorry we didn't get a chance to meet up ... I was meeting my girlfriends family for the first time ... as you know, she's from Pereira.
We'll be back soon ... would love to come visit you y tu noviacita!
I must say ... I love having a Colombian girlfriend ... these chicas, when they dig you and fall for you ... they really dig you ... nothing like it.
Guys talk about the price of non-pros vs PFP ... let me say, IMHO ... if you find a "good" non-pro ... not the type that wants to run to the mall all the time or eat at fancy places all the time, etc ... but a chica that looks out for you ... it's invaluable this type of relationship.
But of course ... boys will be boys ... and I dig a night here and there searchicng for nothing but a quickie.
The combination of the 2 is perfecto ... at least for this guy ... me.
My night out in Cali searchicng for PFP ... searching long and hard ... but fun ... I found in one obscure club ... not 1 but 2 hot chicas ... 2 diamonds ... and yes, I had them both.
These chicas were 9-10 level for 50,000 each ... and one keeps calling me, asking when I want to take her out ... nice.
No fotos yet ... but on the next visit ... soon.
mucha suerte amigos!
Great report Ricker. Cali without freeze won't be quite the same for me ): and you are right that 99% of guys will prefer Medellin or Cartagena for mongering. Tell Fernando I said hello and sorry I wont be back in Colombia for awhile because I am returning to my mongering roots next week (SE Asia).
Did you overnight at one of those resorts near Santa Rosa de Cabal that I emailed you?
In addition to your joya of a novia, who repeats "I LOVE this man" aloud as her mantra, the p4p girls just love you to death too (Natalia has FINALLY stopped emailing asking when you will return LOL!). Anybody who wants to learn to do Colombia right should learn from the Master. Look at how he treats EVERYBODY, right down to hiring the shoe shine guy even when he doesn't need a shine just to help him support his family. I remain your humble apprentice Sire.
GOt back from the lake yesterday.....wow what a party, great venue right next to the lake. Best party i have been to in over a few years. Over 5 thousand people willing to pay the 93,000 cover charge so obviously all the girls there were rich kids, prepagos, or kept women.
The quality of the chicas there were the type of girls only Derek Jeter or A-Rod could date back home. I brought a hottie I am currently banging so I could attract as much attention as possible and that strategy worked because i also brought Oscar to get as many phone numbers of the girls there as possible. Unfortuanately this guy got too drunk too early and only got a few numbers and pictures of these girl. I promise I will post these pics as soon as he gets them developed. Anyone using this guy keep him sober, his game is as good as anyone I´ve ever met and he can talk to any miss colombia calibur chick when sober, but when drunk he is completely useless.
As far as that girl i brought there I knew this was the last time I would see her as she demand that I punch her during sex( closed fist) and chock her among other things. And all this during our first sexual encounter after our 4th date. I was really disturbed after that night and I knew I pretty much wanted to be done with this girl. The Black and White party was the perfect time because she knew what me and Oscar were up to. I met her last week at Tienda Vieja and it was a good week with her but all good things must end sooner or later.
Ricker,
I´ve cleared my inbox. I believe I ran into some friends of yours at Dr. Amor last week as well. I´d like to find that obsure place your refering to.
IMHO many Colombians are into the masochism thing because so many of the men are sexual sadists. I had one that INSISTED I bite her VERY HARD (and I worried about drawing blood!) Turned me OFF just as surely as the American porn that often shows the guy slapping the girl around.
Pulling the hair a little, holding their hands above their head etc. is one thing, but punching and biting quiter another.
93,000 entrada? Damn that is VERY pricey indeed (no por barrio girls for sure, as you duly noted).
Hey Surfer ... actually we ended up staying at her (mi novia) brother's home in Pereira ... and we did the family outing at the Termales calientes ... was lots of fun ... we stayed till almost 11pm.
We went to a club in Pereira ... reminded me of Mangos in Medellin ... hot chicas dancing on the bar and all ... lots of hot normal chicas in the club too.
It was in this area with lots of clubs around ... lots of people out walking ... fun times.
I think the club's name was Cantantes ... or something like that.
Funny you mentioned Natalia de Cali ... she just called me on my cel phone here ... told me she knows I have a novia but wants to be my special friend and win my love ... she'll make me forget my girlfriend.
To be honest ... I'm not so sure what I did to get her so in to me ... maybe the rejection ... you love what you cant have thing. She's nice though.
Taker easy amigos!
Does anybody know Phone #'s of any one who rents condos in Cali? I need a place to stay.
Attached is a photo of one of the girls i met at the lake and got the digits. We´re talking.... I finally hooked up with one of the other girl I met at the lake after 3 dates, she was kinda wondering why i didnt make a move after the 2nd. If I didn´t bang her by this date she prob. would´ve though i was gay. Shes a mega hottie...a bit photo shy.
The last photo i was the psycho i met at Tienda Vieja and brought to the lake. WHen i met her at Tienda she was with some guys that are organizers of seniorita valle del cauca and she told me they are trying to convince her to enter this years pagents. So for her protection I am cropping her face but be assured shes a 10.
The owner of Tienda Vieja was hott for this chick and i promised to hook him up in exchange for meeting some Top Class agency beauties. He jumped on that and we´re meeting tonight at 8:30 across the street from my apt at Casa de Cerveza. I´m bringing along one lucky ass gringo.....
Here the view of the Lake and the view from the cabin i rented.
Last pic are the Aguadente girls handing out shots.....there was about 20 of them but after they saw us getting one of their numbers the others ones gave me the cold shoulder. The Kools cig. girls were even hotter but they didnt show me any love either. Will have a couple more pics to post. Went to Forum on 6th ave and 26th street last night and ran into alot of the same people I had met at Calima. Got some number and will see how it goes this weekend
Luis the great
for the length of time you are staying in Cali I dont think you can get a condo like Terrasa de Granada or Santorini. Also of guys stay at the Sunriver and Montecarlo apartahotel. Both are more than suitable for your needs. I think the addresses are listed on the Cali list.
Quite a few of you have inquired regarding my meeting with the guy who supposedly had girls from Top class agency. Well this guy made us wait 2 1/2 hours for these girls and the one that showed up was not even bangable in my opinion. Needless to say I wont be talking to this guy anymore. So that appears to be a dead end. The only superstars I see in Cali hang out at the nightclubs around 6th ave and 26th (Forum and Tropical Cocktails especially) so this is the area I´m going to continue to work.
Anyone hear about them (sorry if it's been discussed)?
[url]http://www.calidolls.com/[/url]
CB
Funny you mention this website. A Colombian friend of mine is dating the chica, Kenny, from this agency.
This is a modeling agency, not a PFP agency ... normal chicas.
He's already invited me out to meet with the girls of the agency with his girlfriend .... this should be fun!
Suerte!
Currently I'm got some business in BGT but for anyone in town this week is fashion week in Cali and I hear alot of after show parties in Menga
I would like to know if someone can make a recommendation here. Lots of ads but don't know which are good?
thanks
I met a guy who put out an ad and got over 50 responses not all of the responders were hot even though he put he wanted model types but he got several cute steady hookups from just 25,000. You'd have to think girls responding to these ads are a tad on the desperate type so your not gonna get the best of the best but I did see several of the girls he was hooking up with and there are gems to be had.
I was thinking in more if you respond to the ad, what the experience has been with the provider? Although your idea sounds interesting in placing an ad. I am tempted now to place an ad but I have a couple of girl friends in Cali
so I need to be careful.
[QUOTE=Rob Hay]I met a guy who put out an ad and got over 50 responses not all of the responders were hot even though he put he wanted model types but he got several cute steady hookups from just 25,000. You'd have to think girls responding to these ads are a tad on the desperate type so your not gonna get the best of the best but I did see several of the girls he was hooking up with and there are gems to be had.[/QUOTE]
Well let me start to say usually when I vist Colombia I visit Cali I spend it at the "casa de servicios" and would not do the dating thing. I promised myself after chatting with someone during my last visit (Feria de Cali 2005) that had great success daiting. That the next time I would visit Cali I will try hooking up with non pros and visit another city besides Cali. I am happy to say I achieved my goals. I hooked up with non pros and visited Cartegna. I will be reporting on my daily activitis in this and future reports.
I arrived at my hotel room on Friday 11:30 PM in Cali. Rather then go to sleep I decided to a casa since I passed up the lighted Pharos status on Ave, 2nd. I decided to see how the action is. I went to the casa on the left I think its all considered Pharos. Took a seat asked the waiter to see the merchandice 5 -6 Girls presented themselves. Ranging from 5- 7 a little on the chubby side. Then the waiter asked me if I would like something to drink said sure. While I seen him walk to the bar I noticed a cute girl from across the room solid 7 nice body. Asked the waiter to bring her over. I asked her why she didnt come over earlier she said that she thought I was "fresco" = concided. Asked her what she wanted to drink she said a beer , excellent start, chaepest thing you can get next to gasosa. We chatted and by the time you know it it was 2:30 AM. Not once she asked if I wanted to go upstairs - additional points. I then asked what she was doing after words she said nothing asked her how much toda la noche she said 120 col - - additional points I would have easily payed her $120. She had a great attitude and looks to match. I then noticed she liked to dance told her I had a proposition. Lets go to the dance club at Torres de Cali which is down the block and after words she can take off. She said great- Deal was made. Casa was closing earlier then usual 3:00 am. She said to wait for her outside until she got out. Once she came out I barley recognized her with her clothes on. She went from damn sexy to Damn beautiful.
We got to the club asked her what she wanted to drink she said "whatever". ordered what looked like a blue mother fuc*er for her got some water for myself. We danced till we got tired Im a good dancer and I think she was really turned on by it. She told me she was surprised I could dance so well. Regetton came on I had her on all fours grinding on my sh*t. She tried to kiss me a few times I resisted she then asked me if I was taking her to my hotel afterwords. I told her that it was up to her. It was about 4:30 she said her feet were hurting lets go to your hotel . I said cool lets go.
Got to the hotel and she imediatly proceeded to undress herself she asked if I wasnt turned on by her because I didnt let her kiss me all night. She grabbed me on my privates and she the realized how turned on I was. She the told me if I can make love to her. I said off course. To my astonishment she was wet...... not easy for a working girl... but I guess we had some chemistry going. We went at it all night she said I turned her on when we started to dance and that she wanted to do it at the club. Next thing you know it was about 9:00 AM. I was feeling sleepy at this point asked her if she needed to go somewhere. She said no and asked me why I wanted her to leave I said tranquila that I didnt want her to feel like she had to stay. She stayed we slept unti 1:00 PM where we again continued doing the duty. She took of right after that around 2:00 PM payed her 120 col. She asked if I was staying in town long and that she would be working sat and sunday night for me to stop by to talk I said sure.
So my first night went off to a good start the only P4P service I had during my stayin Colombia. But the fact she stayed until 2:00 PM the next morning I concider this one a freebie.
Pharros bar tab = 10 Col
Entrance to Torros de Cali for 2 = 20 Col
Drinks at Club = 20 Col
Girl Tip = 120 Col
Making a working girl orgasam all night = Priceless
3 hours $60K pesos maybe cheaper for smaller suites
Paraiso Romano
Carrera 35 No.10-33 Antigua Carretera Yumbo
Jacuzi,Steam Sauna, 2 bedrooms, sex toys etc nice place
very exclusive and large rooms
Tels 665-4068 665-5253 665-4274
Gents,
I was wondering in anybody knew if there is a sportsbar in Cali that carries American football on Sunday's.
If not a sports bar then what about the major hotels like the IC or Dann?
Thanks,
Cubanut
Currently in Cali .... (Cubanut ...are you in town? Let me know how we can get together..)
In Cali , I checked into the the Hotel Torre the Cali, which despite being nice and not too expensive (nice room 140K a night , breakfast inc.) I will DEFINITELY NOT stay in again. David 33, whom I met there and is based in Peru also felt the same way. The problem is that they are not exactly chica un-friendly, per se, but they are a stickler for a rule that ANY visitor, at ANY time, NO MATTER THE LENGTH of the visit, MUST show a cedulla. Sounds OK, except that only CEDULA and ORIGINAL cedula must be presented. Thus, any girl, or visitor, who carries a photcopy of their id for fear of losing the original, is sh*t out of luck. PLUS, they can shove their snippy attitude up their a*s when they haughtly turn their backs on you, and your vistor, when they deny you entry.
When a person turns 18 years of age in Colombia, they can obtain a sort of pre-cedula, which turns into a full cedula in six months..... NO DICE ....CEDULA ONLY , with a smirk. When this happenned to me the second day, I immediatelly cancelled the extra day I had booked and moved into another hotel, where the owner honored our previous arrangement...(Lower rate...no BS girl charge)
As David 33 said, next time he´ll find a hotel where he can bring in a midget, a transvestite, a mule and two streetwalkers in without raising an eyebrow.
Amigo .. Im back in Cali tonite .. email tu cel nbr .. we'll be at restaurante Pasion in Grenada at 9pm .. con mi novia. Nos vemos!
Message sent to your Papi-yahoo address. Hope we can make this happen!
Hey Ricker,
Sorry me an Robert missed you. We had dinner at Tony Roma's on Tuesday and walked over to the IC but you were out. Next time amigo.
Wolfy Baby,
Sorry but I left Cali the next day after you posted your message (Sunday Oct 1st). Would have been great to meet up as well.
I stayed at the Hotel Windsor Plaza and they too have implemented some new rules. Before this week there was no guest fee for a girl staying less than 3 hours in your room and $33,000 cop if she stayed more than 3 hours. This week however the new management has imposed a fee of doubling your room fee for a guest staying more than 30 minutes. My daily rate (with corporate discount) was $82,000 cop and they wanted to charge me another $82,000 cop for my guest. The guest fee change occurred in mid week starting with the third girl I had brought in and I told the manager I would not pay it because I was never informed of the mid week change of policy. After 5 minutes of explaining what good customer service is about, the manager and I agreed to a charge of $33,000 for girls staying over 30 minutes. I had three more girls stay with me after that. In no instance was any girl ever asked to provide an ID nor did they ever confront any of my guests for any reason (such as leaving alone).
I later found out that if you pay for a double room you will not be charged a guest fee. This works out cheaper of course than doubling your rate for each guest and also if you plan to have at least one guest a day/night.
Cheers,
Cubanut
Looks like Greg is going to make another ton of $$s with his Cali Mansion...if someone doesn´t find a decent hassle-free alternative place to stay. I don´t understand why Greg is the only one with some vision...He starts the Medellin Mansion, things go great and everyone else jumps on the bandwagon. Cali is a great place to visit..really friendly and not loaded with gringos like Medellin, but needs a monger friendly place for us to stay.
My name is Albert I would like to know if anybody knows of big places in Cali to rent to open a hotel there.
Most people say that the pay for play in Cali is just OK, not great. You would never travel across the world just to hit Cali's casas for a couple of weeks. Better options elsewhere.
Medellin is not full of gringos, in fact you almost never see another one, save for a few places in the city.
Gents,
Having just returned from Cali I must say that having a monger oriented place to stay like the Medellin Mansion would be ideal.
I think Robert and Greg have made Medellin a no brainer vaction spot for the avid monger. Should they decide to do the same in Cali, I think the party potential will be even greater. There are so many more party places and unique sex venues in Cali than Medellin. The Chiva traveling party buses are real cool as well.
6th ave (Avenida Sesta) is the place a Cali Mansion should be situated, in my opinion. This is a major party district and is really happening Thursday through Saturday and on Sunday when there is a three day weekend. It is in the Versalles are in North Cali. There also are some very nice upscale neighborhoods as well towards south Cali (beyond the south area slums). I also like the Avenida Roosevelt area and found a very unusual night club that my friends and I now call "The Secret Place". If I were to take you there I would noty tell you why it is so unique but you would see for yourself once inside. It takes a little getting used to. Everyone likes the place though.
Medellin definately has more malls than Cali but with Cali malls like the Chipe Shoppe and Uni Centro you don't need many more. Again the attitude and reaction of the girls to me and my friends advances were more welcomed than in Medellin. We eventually picked up six 8 different girls at Chippe Shoppe in the afternoon and invited them to later party with us at Avenida Sesta and they naturally came back with us to the Windsor Plaza Hotel for an overnight stay.
One big difference between the Calenas and the Medellin Paisas is attitude. The Medellin girls are beautiful but rather cold. The Cali girls on the other hand on a whole are notch lower in the beauty dept but a whole lot of notches higher in the hot passionate GFE dept than Medellin girls.
I think one should take advantage of Cali's close proximity to other nice smaller cities like Armenia, Pereira and Manizales which are driving distances of 2 1/2 hrs, 4hrs, & 5 hrs respectively.
I managed to get over to Armenia in 2 1/2 hrs problem free and was impressed that in this smaller city I saw more beautiful women in it's El Central (downtown district) by percentage than what I have seen in Medellin's El Central. The women in theses areas are also referred to as Paisas. I believe it is because these cities are within the Antioquia region.
I have found that in Medellin once you get outside of El Poblado the percentage of a constant flow of beautiful women drops off greatly. The other problem in Poblado is the tremendous amout of fake tits that are almost the norm for the richer Paisas. Not so in Armenia. The girls are naturally stunning.
One other MAJOR difference in Armenia from Medellin is the abundance of natural blonde and lighter eyed colored women. I don't know what genes are flowing in the Armenia region but green eyes are very common as well as a healthy sprinkling of blue eyed girls.
I asked several girls what predominent tourists come to Armenia and was very surprised to find that most said the French are mostly what they see. I don't know how long the French have been coming or really why. Maybe it's the French that have contributed to the lighter hair and eye coloring I spoke of earlier.
I found Armenian girls very friendly and talkative. They responded easily to my greetings and most were exited to meet an American for the firs time.
Lastly, I saw no problematic areas in Armenia as well which are abundant in Cali and sprinkled about in Medellin.
I plan to visit Periera and Manizales as well in the near future. I also will take advantage of Cali's close proximity to Buenaventura which is in the North Pacific Ocean and only about 1 1/2 hrs away from Cali.
Cheers,
Cubanut
Great comments Cuba, I really liked the Chipe Chape mal too. Plenty of friendly cuties around and good food too. Also lots of possibilities in the Palmetto Mall to the South on weekends. Maybe I´ll check out Armenia next trip. My small town experience this time was hopping over to Ibague on Aires. The plane stops in Pereira on the way. While I was in Ibague there was a report on CNN on the girls in Pereira going on a sex strike so that their gangster boyfriends would lay down their guns. Fat chance! The girls were having a great time talking to the reporter and getting their 5 minutes of fame. I can imagine their boyfriends gleefully taking advantage of the opportunity to jump on other girls with the excuse of the "crossed legs strike".
Cubanut,
Yes I agree 110% percent with your report and you comparison of Medellin vs Cali. Due to business i have lived in both cities for over a year and in my opinion Cali is THE place for girls. The city itself may not be as nice as Medellin, but the girls are always open to meeting a foriegner and are always ready to party.
The culture there is so much more open and fun and it really shows with the girls. I am not really shure why Greg and Robert did not start there first as
Cali is al lot more geared to their type of business.
Any one on the fence deciding about which city to go to (Cali or Medellin) should take heed to your report as it is right on the money. Both Cites have their fair shares of pluses and minuses but if it's the girls you are looking for then IMO Cali is the better option.
How gringo infested is Cali at the moment?
I hear its becoming like Cartegena now :(
I've spent a lot of time in both Cali and Medellin ...
I'm pretty sure Robert (of the Mansion / Castillo) and I were the first gringos seen at both Energy and New Life in Medellin, as well as many other places really ... and since Robert is not a true gringo (of course he's PRican) ... I get the honors ... whoop-dee-doo.
Anyway ... since those days I've pretty much settled in Cali ... hanging with my novia and playing around a little when the urge strikes.
What Cubanut says about the general attitude of people from Cali is correct IMHO ... more open, more chevere (cool).
The daytime casas are MUCH better in Medellin ... as far as quality goes ... I actually think the whole PFP scene in Medellin is better.
It's the non-pro scene in Cali that is better ... like Cubanut says ... the chicas don't seem to be as stuck-up / cold as the hot Paisas ... especially the ones in Mangos / Poblado.
Medellin is definitely a much prettier city and the climate is much better also.
I stay in Cali because that's where my work takes me now and my girlfriend and her family are there (even though she's a Paisa ... hahaha) and I'm way less into the PFP as before.
I wouldn't come running to Cali just to chase the PFP ... Medellin would be better IMHO ... especially with the Mansion there and it's competition.
If you like to mingle and meet normal chicas ... you speak at least conversational type spanish ... and you have a cool personality to mix it up with the Calenas ... Cali is nice.
Just my take on the comparison ... buenas suerte to all!
by the way .... it's Avenida Sexta ... not Sesta (Sixth Avenue) ... come on Cuba ... get on the ball! Just joshing ya amigo ... sorry I missed you guys that night ... we missed eachother by about 5 minutes ... take care.
the man TRULY tells it like it is without playing favorites at all.
Cubanut: the road to Buenaventura is VERY dangerous for gringos (a good friend was removed at knifepoint from a mini-bus, tied to a stake out in the middle of nowhere, and was lucky to escape his harrowing ordeal alive; I will ask his permission to post his epic story on this website if there is interest but I think you are a member of the site where the story was posted.)
Also, the beaches are mud, the the water black, thge climate Cartagena like and it is a VERY unpleasant place that is not worth the effort (unless you LOVE Black girls in VERY seedy casas). Ask Screwed Up or search these threads for his report.
Ditto the road to the South past Jamundi. The highway NORTH is the ONLY reasonably safe escape from Cali. I know I sound like a broken record but it is easy to develop a false sense of security in Colombia.
I admit that I DREAD the opening of a Mansion like facility in Cali; one guy, Batman, tried it and failed miserably. I hope any succesors meet the same fate as the big plus of Cali, the friendliness of the people (chicas included), will go the way of Laguito and Poblasdo once the flood gates are flung open.
I am pretty much over my Colombia phase as I do NOT like the changes taking place there at all and am moving on to greener pastures (much applause from the peanut gallery!) That being said, I will still return occasionally as I have good friends who live there AND there are still secret corners not yet inundated by the gringo invasion. But IMHO, Colombia's best days as a mongering location are but pleasant memories. ):
I've already said enough about how much i love Cali. But what is the situation in Armenia? BLue and Green eyed girls with the classic latin face? Can we get a visual?? This is really worth checking out...
No Cali is not overrun with Gringos outside of the casa/stripclub scene. If your hanging out in Menga or 6thave/calle 26 area you wont find a single gringo....besides me maybe. But you will find alot of hot young girls. Suerte
Hey Guys, just got back from a heaven sent, lustfull, debaucherous, 10 days in CALI, good news "CITIBANK" there is one in plaza versailles is now giving 700,000cop and 500,000cop amounts = less trips to the ATM which = less bank fees! You all know that those add up! Peace "Chino"
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]Hey Guys, just got back from a heaven sent, lustfull, debaucherous, 10 days in CALI, good news "CITIBANK" there is one in plaza versailles is now giving 700,000cop and 500,000cop amounts = less trips to the ATM which = less bank fees! You all know that those add up! Peace "Chino"[/QUOTE]
Actually the number of trips to the ATM remain unchanged. You can make as many consecutive withdrawals as you want until you reach the daily limit set by your home bank. But, for those charged a fee per transaction, the 700K per transaction is great news.
I'm not into making accusations or naming names but there's a sick MF among us that was in Cali recently looking for very young chicas ... I'm talking 12-13 year olds.
I got this info from my very good taxi friend who was taking him out and about.
Don't you think there are plenty of wonderful and willing chicas in Colombia, above the age of 18 to have fun with?
We all have our own moral values ... I am no saint for sure ... but this is absolutely digusting messing with innocent children .... and obviously ILLEGAL .... EVERYWHERE!!
I am a very happy and peaceful guy ... I live and let live ... but this behavior I will not ignore if I am ever witness to it.
LEAVE THE INNOCENT CHILDREN ALONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm really hoping this is not true.....I don't want to believe its true actually.
Me and a friend have personally met the Taxi Driver friend of yours before and he speaks no English at all.....could something have been lost in translation? Or is is typical Colombian just lying for the sake of lying? If thats the case its pretty weak to lie to make up an outrageous story. He is is actually telling the truth then thats really disgusting and non of us should really stand for it. I personally have never encountered anything like that before, although I've never been to Asia either where stuff like this is rampant.
I'm just saying let just make sure the facts are straight before fingers are pointed.
Ricker,
I agree that there are more than enough girls of legal age to pursue than to seek out children. Play No Games makes a vlid point of not wanting to be associated with this chracter as well. Your call on disclosing who the individual is though. It would be unfortunate if one asshole fucks it up for many other fellow mongers who play by the rules.
On another note: I hailed a taxi one night and the driver right away offered me coke (he showed me what he had on hand) and ecstacy, weed etc.. I told him I wasn't interested. Then he quickly asked me if I wanted to screw a beautiful 15 year old girl and I told him no and told him to pull over immediately and got out and threw him some pesos and hopped in another taxi. I didn't want to be associated with that driver. Just gotta be careful about being set up as well.
Jman,
Robert (Medellin Bob) started his business originally in Cali 8 years ago and left after 2 years when he discovered Medellin.
Surfer,
I would disagree about what you say about Cali be past it's prime. It's not just in my opinion that Cali is on a rebound it's also Robert's (Medellin Bob). I can see the exitement in his eyes as well when he talks about opening a branch of the Mansion in Cali. He and I went through some extensive reconassaince to check out the talent throughout the city and found more than enough good daytime and night venues to keep throngs of mongers occupied.
Also, I never said Cali/Buenaventura was safe but at the same time I will not say it is very dangerous. In fact Cali is not safe as a whole and that is why I said it is not the ideal place for a newbie monger to Colombia to start out the hobby. My suggestion was to do Medellin first. It is also why I said a Cali Mansion would be greatly welcome.
Just like any other city, one's safety has alot to do with one's habits and awareness. Even this can fail though. For example, while I was in Cali last week, we were on our way to the Chippe Choppe and the police had roped off a car in the parking lot that had just been shot up. It was a failed hit though because the windows were bullet proof and the driver survived though still serious hurt by the bullets that did break through.
MiamiHeatLuver,
The Citibank I believe you are reffing to in Versalles is at the corner of calle 23 Norte & ave 5. It was straight down avenida 5 from the Hotel Windsor Plaza. There is a Bancafe right around the corner from the Windsor though that gives multiple $300,000 withdrawls. I always pull the max when I head to the ATM's but many gringos only take out what they think they need for the day no matter how much they can actually get at one visit. The Cambios at the Chippe Chappe were giving $2,200 cop to the usd as well.
Enigma84,
It's just my opinion but Cali is in no way infested with the likes and types of gringos you find in Cartagena.
Rob Hay,
Sorry buddy but no pics of the non-pros of Armenia will I post out here. I know I have posted many a girl but they were always of pros or semi pros. You will just have to take my word aboutthe lighter eyes.
Posting pros is different.
Cheers Gents,
Cubanut
Heya Cubanut ....
I like Cali too ... lots of fun to be had ... Robert doing his thing there will definitely bring some guys ... BUT ... MEDELLIN is without a doubt, more of a tourist friendly / beautiful city.
I can see guys passing thru Cali but not falling in love with it like they do in Medellin.
Cali is a friendly, dance oriented city with nice people ... great for the non-pros if your spanish is OK.
MEDELLIN is just much more for the normal visiting guy.
I really miss the city of Medellin at times, I just like the friends I've made here in Cali now.
Just my take.
As far as my previous post concerning the guy looking for young girls.
I won't name any names, as there were no actual girls involved ... it was just a request that was denied.
On the chance they were just words ... I will leave it at that.
As far as typical Colombians lying just to lie ... I don't have a clue what you mean by that Rob H. .... that has not been my experience in my YEARS in Colombia.
Of course there are bad types showing up in Colombia now ... with the horde of Gringos visiting, not everyone is going to follow the monger code of ethics ... whatever that may be.
I think you get my point though.
Suerte!
Roberto says that once he finishes renovating the penthouse, he will make his way to Cali.......and hopefully open early in the new year. I think that is when I will make my first trip to Cali. Me and hundreds others.
I was so impressed with Cali and MY and Surfer´s taxi driver, that I will be going back within a month. After the less than acceptable service at the Torres Cali Hotel which Wolfy Baby and I experienced, I am seriously considering looking for a nice apartament (like Jackson´s in B.A.) which has internet and is also luxurious enough to impress normal girls. Does anyone have a contact? If not I´ll just see what I can dig up on the internet.
That's Fantastic ... Robert is a great friend of mine ... I know he's opening a place in Cali ... I've helped him find trusted guys to work for him there in Cali.
I wish him the best of luck in whatever he does.
Guys will have fun in Cali ... hell, it's tough not to have fun ANYWHERE you go in Colombia. It's just a friendly, beautiful country with beautiful, sexy women.
My point is ... IMHO of course ... most guys will be more attracted to either Cartagena with the beach scene, easy operated PFP scene, 7 day a week party scene, etc ... or Medellin, with it's natural beauty, great climate and gorgeous Paisas (chicas).
I wish everyone a great time and welcome to Cali.
Guys were coming to Cali long before the Medellin tourism hit.
Cali had / has many Marriage agencies already ... been there for years ... many "marriage agency" professionals ... chicas that date guys coming to these agencies ... free meals, nice gifts, maybe a little cash and then off to the next guy.
Cali was big before Medellin was discovered ... there's a reason guys flocked to Medellin from Cali.
Check it out for yourself ... no big deal ... see you there!
Suerte!
you and hundreds other making their way to Cali......I guess the secrets out about Cali.
Ricker don't mean to offend you regarding your taxi friend. I'm hoping really that its not true thats all. That would really just give a black eye to all of us.
I thought that the word had always been out about Cali. A little violence goes a long way to keep chicken shits like me away....for the most part. I've met enough guys saying that it was'nt so bad, you just have to be alert all the time. Though, I do see enough guys here in Medellin walking around being targets.
I was headed that way in the new year whether Robert was opening or not.
Gents,
Cali is an established dating agnecy location but yet you will not find many gringo's walking around. In two weeks mongering time in Cali I only ran into one Gringo staying at the same hotel I was and one gringo at a mongering joint I was at. I also only saw 3 gringo's in all hanging out at Avenida Sexta. Cali is big when it comes to the party scene so it's not likely that a regular run in with gringo's will occur anytime soon.
Cheers,
Cubanut
Last year I stayed about 2 months in total in Cali in march and june and I saw maybe 4 gringo's all together.
This year I stayed there for less than 5 days and on one day in chipi chape I saw like 7-8 gringo's and maybe 4 at av. sexta...
But this time I got waaay more looks from girls giving me the eye than last year. I noticed in many cities if a place has a lot of tourists I do well with freebies, if not, it's harder. My theory always was, if there are a lot of tourists, girls know how the game works and are eager to meet foreigners and easier for freebies. If there are less foreigners around, they care less.
Hmmm, does this make sense?
[QUOTE=Screwed Up]Last year I stayed about 2 months in total in Cali in march and june and I saw maybe 4 gringo's all together.
This year I stayed there for less than 5 days and on one day in chipi chape I saw like 7-8 gringo's and maybe 4 at av. sexta...
But this time I got waaay more looks from girls giving me the eye than last year. I noticed in many cities if a place has a lot of tourists I do well with freebies, if not, it's harder. My theory always was, if there are a lot of tourists, girls know how the game works and are eager to meet foreigners and easier for freebies. If there are less foreigners around, they care less.
Hmmm, does this make sense?[/QUOTE]
Totally!!! Take Lima for example...loads of tourists=Mas Sexo Gratis!ja ja.
When you headed back down Lima way?
LB
Does anyone have any direction as to where the street action congregates in Cali?
Thanks
What are the chances that a goodlooking gringo can find women eager to have sex with him for free?
If the chances are good, what places (cafes, restautants, etc) should he frequent?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Jes1959]Does anyone have any direction as to where the street action congregates in Cali?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
There are some street girls on Avenida Sexta from around calle 20 and up (beginning at the park with the fountain, quite a long way up the street in the direction of Chipi Chape). Do this in a taxi if it's late at night, as the area can have some questionable characters standing around.
You can also look near I think it's av 7 and cll 19 or so. One calle up from the BanSuperior in the back streets late at night.
At either of these locations, give your target a close inspection to make sure she's 100% female.
[QUOTE=Cachorro]There are some street girls on Avenida Sexta from around calle 20 and up (beginning at the park with the fountain, quite a long way up the street in the direction of Chipi Chape). Do this in a taxi if it's late at night, as the area can have some questionable characters standing around.
You can also look near I think it's av 7 and cll 19 or so. One calle up from the BanSuperior in the back streets late at night.
At either of these locations, give your target a close inspection to make sure she's 100% female.[/QUOTE]
You definately want to make sure it has a VAGINA in that area, The "women" congregate in groups of 5 or more on every corner. That area is a known hangout for she-males but they always throw a female in the group to confuse the unexpecting client. The quality of the the she-males RIVALS the type in Thailand or Brazil. SO PROCEED WITH CAUTION or BETTER YET, STAY OUT OF THIS AREA and stick to la sexta around 22 to about 26, Peace "Chino"
Hey amigos ... I'm here in Cali ... got stuck here for work ... I hate when that happens :)
Did a tour of the daytime casas yesterday ... I can say without doubt that the quality is nowhere near the quality of the chicas in Medellin ... I'm talking specifically in the daytime casas.
Eventually we found a place that had several nice chicas, a massage parlor on Avenida Sexta.
I have found in Medellin that each casa has at least several nice chicas.
That was not the case here in Cali.
We hit one place that had about 25 chicas ... not one was acceptable ... at least a 7 or higher was not to be found.
However, the normal chicas in Cali are fantastic.
Walked around the mall ... Chippi Chappi ... and a couple parks ... very nice chicas and friendly.
Overall ... great time as usual ... just not the same daytime PFP ... quality ... as in Medellin.
Suerte amigos!
I need internet access while I'm in Columbia. I will have a laptop. What are my options for internet access? Will my laptop be secure? Or stolen? Is internet fast?
[QUOTE=Digital Curry]I need internet access while I'm in Columbia. I will have a laptop. What are my options for internet access? Will my laptop be secure? Or stolen? Is internet fast?[/QUOTE]
1. Where in Colombia will you be?
2. Will your laptop be secure? Answer=This depends on how careful or careless you are with it.
3. Is internet fast. Yes if you plug in directly to a modem but slower but still fast on wireless.
You can probably already guess that most quality hotels will offer wireless at a cost or perhaps included in your stay.
4. It's spelled "Colombia" and not "Columbia".
Cheers,
Cubanut
[QUOTE=Digital Curry]I need internet access while I'm in Columbia. I will have a laptop. What are my options for internet access? Will my laptop be secure? Or stolen? Is internet fast?[/QUOTE]
Your laptop will be stolen the first night. So you needn't worry about the rest of your query.
One night I was restless (and horny!) and I walked the Sexta from Don Jaime to Chipachape and back. Had nothing on me to steal, but still ill advised I know. Had no problems. The upper end of the Sexta is more tourist friendly I suppose, but when the police set up the checkpoint by Don Jaime the girls move further down the street. There are some VERY good looking ones much further down as well, but it can be hit and miss at ALL times (less reliable than the area near Bar San Diego in Medellin where there always seem to be a fair number in the evenings).
The Sexta is only one area with SWs, but the others are less foreigner friendly. Near Flores Frescas, for example, but there are WAY more TVs there than you ever see on the Sexta (in fact I have seen VERY few TVs on the Sexta as the cops run them off supposedly).
Your laptop will be fine as long as your not an idiot with it. Chippi Chapi has free wifi.
Medellin Bob´s Cali Mansion openning soon, stand by gentlemen.
Aussie Greg.
If anybody can run a good place in Cali ... it'll be Roberto ... always runs a good show.
Be careful though in Cali guys ... it's a bit more "caliente" than Medellin these days ... and I'm not referring to the weather ... I'm talking the peligro (danger).
Suerte!
as much as I like Roberto and wish him well in whatever he does, I much lament the spread of monger establishments to Cali (not that I liked it happening in Medellin either, but Cali is special to me). I quite liked Colombia as it WAS, not how it is becoming. Guess it was inevitable ):
Yes, I agree I like Colombia the way it is. But with the Cali Mansion opening up it will definatley bring change. Im not cheap but its no secret this will definatly bring up prices across the board.Women Housing Food I have frequented Cali for the past three years and I have noticed prices going up every time I go back. I expect it to go up due to inflation but I have familiy there that have told me its because of all the gringos girls are asking for more and the quality has gone down more Robotic. I have noticed the influx of gringos each time I go. I by no means dont have a problem with it. But they usually dont know the going price and usually get charged double. I always mention to them "Dont over pay" I have in past have been informed by P4P and regular girls Gringos are easy meal tickets. With that said I know Robert is helping mongers but in a way hes hurting the regulars that have been around unescorted. Not to mention he is probably planining to take a cut of all the business that comes in. I dont blame him but this will definatley bring prices up for everyone if they stay at the manision or not. Change is inevitable but I like baby steps not warp drive.
Just my 2 cents.......
Luis The Great,
Please view my answer to your´s and SURFER´s concerns on my Thread as I will not in the future write on any other threads other than mine.
Aussie Greg.
[QUOTE=Luis The Great]Yes, I agree I like Colombia the way it is. But with the Cali Mansion opening up it will definatley bring change. Im not cheap but its no secret this will definatly bring up prices across the board.Women Housing Food I have frequented Cali for the past three years and I have noticed prices going up every time I go back. I expect it to go up due to inflation but I have familiy there that have told me its because of all the gringos girls are asking for more and the quality has gone down more Robotic. I have noticed the influx of gringos each time I go. I by no means dont have a problem with it. But they usually dont know the going price and usually get charged double. I always mention to them "Dont over pay" I have in past have been informed by P4P and regular girls Gringos are easy meal tickets. With that said I know Robert is helping mongers but in a way hes hurting the regulars that have been around unescorted. Not to mention he is probably planining to take a cut of all the business that comes in. I dont blame him but this will definatley bring prices up for everyone if they stay at the manision or not. Change is inevitable but I like baby steps not warp drive.
Just my 2 cents.......[/QUOTE]
Bob/Aussie, you boys got the balls, ha, ha!! NOW, another mansion in Cali! I LOVE it!!! I will be flying (USA) into and out of Cali mid November and mid December. If there is anything I can do to help . . . please let me know.
What grand times us mongers had, I have many good memories from the Medellin Mansion. Just a couple more decades for me, and damn, all of this will probably just be another fun memory!! I have a bunch photos from the mansion I would like to post. Do you want me to run them by you first??
Thanks for all your efforts. You lucky dogs!!
The newly bilingual QBert, some dumb f*ck from NYC and I, hope to visit Cali soon and drive the prices up.
For the whiners...I guess Haiti is the next destination.
Hey is it common to get airfares from Miami to Cali RT for about $450??? I just made a reservation but I think it is going to be harder to get from Cali to Rio then I first thought. So I may have to rethink this and go to Rio first then make my way back up towards Colombia and eventually back to Miami.
Hey Surfer,
How are the beaches in the vicinity of Cali? I remeber reading some old posts of yours last year and you seemed to like it. Is it rockier and seemingly cleaner then say Cartegena, beaches (which were not that impressive anyway).
Have you ever flown from Cali to Lima? About how much would that cost one way?? THanks.
The major port serving Cali is Buenaventura. I would strongly suggest that you avoid it at all costs. Cali is the least safe of the major cities, and the surrounding countryside is less safe yet.
Humm good to know T33. Thanks
Z:
Never went because nobody that did had anything good to say about it. Screwedup and mahardjah went before I met them in Medellin (and posted a blurb here). Ladrilleros is the sandy beach, Bueneaventura is a muddy port.
Whole arera is dicey security wise, as is the road from Cali.
Cali is not the most dangerous city in Colombia at all. Barrancabermeja, in Santander Department on the Magdalena river, holds that ignominious distinction.
Only flight from Cali going South that I know is to the Ecuadorian border .
You'll have to go to BOG to get to Lima and flights within South America tend to bve pricey due to little competition. If you have Delta miles you can get an award on Avianca and on LAN if you have American miles (United's only partner in SA is Varig which is no help to you)
I see. Thanks surfer, I'll limit myself to Cali. Have you ever flown from Colombia to Rio or the other way around?
Z: For beaches why not fly to San Andres from Cali?
I have flown to Ecuador and Peru from Colombia, and to Brasil from Peru, but never direct. Varig had a flight from BOG to Sao Paolo but they are in BK and not sure flight is still operating. Another problem is there is a HORRIBLE schedule with a several hour layover in the middle of the night in Manaus.
My suggestion would be to use AA miles on LAN which has a nonstop from BOG to Lima, then another nonstop from Lima to GRU (Sao Paolo). An excellent airline IMHO. PERHAPS TAM, the #2 Brazilian carrier and another aa partner, has added Bogota service by now.
The LIM-BOG-LIM flight unfortunately has a half hour stop in Quito...but you don´t get off the plane. No business class either, have to ride in back with the riff raff. hahahaha
I thought they had a nonstop on certain days of the week (or USED to). Coach aint so bad for a short hop, and many of us tolerate it even for LONG flights to SE asia.
Need help to see which city is best for me to go to Colombia for a week. I have read Cali, Catargena, Medellin and Bogota site. But all of these cities seem to be pretty good for the P4P scene.
I have read thought that some Colombiana would not want to hang with you fif they knew you were only staying for 7 days. So I just stay at Aussie Greg or VIP since this is my first time to Colombia?
Please guys give me recomendations.
El Cubanito
PS Yo hablo Espanol muy bien amigos.
[QUOTE=El Cubanito]Need help to see which city is best for me to go to Colombia for a week. I have read Cali, Catargena, Medellin and Bogota site. But all of these cities seem to be pretty good for the P4P scene.
I have read thought that some Colombiana would not want to hang with you fif they knew you were only staying for 7 days. So I just stay at Aussie Greg or VIP since this is my first time to Colombia?[/QUOTE]
Cubanito,
Hard to say which is the BEST city.
Me myself, I could go back to any of them solo and enjoy myself, but that's just me.
From a newbie standpoint and if you are traveling alone I would say go to Medellin and stay at the Medellin Mansion. While you are in Medellin, check out VIP's as well. I like VIP's setup but you as newbie will do more banging for your buck at the Mansion. No brainer mongering is what a newbie should strive for instead of wasting precious vacation time.
Cheers,
Cubanut
BTW- Once you have Medellin under your belt it would be time move onto Cali. That is where you will find cuties like Paula. GFE action is alot easier to find in Cali but you have to be just a bit more resourceful.
Being new at this Colombia thing, I have been to Cartegena, Bogota and Medellin. I've heard good things about Cali and plan to be there early in the new year. From what I have read of your posts on the Cuba thread, I am guessing Cali.
Again, I've never been, but people keep telling me how much fun the girls are. Some you just can't look at for too long.
Hey Cubanito ... since you speak spanish, and appear to be a seasoned traveler, any of the cities would be fun for you.
The Paisas from Medellin, las chicas, have more of a euro-look in general ... and the city itself and the climate is much nicer than other cities in Colombia ... IMHO
Medellin, I've found, has many more areas to go hang out .... whether it's the ritzy area of el Poblado, the area near el Estadio or la Setenta, small town just outside of Medellin called Bello (met some real cuties here), el Centro, and much more. Medellin has much more to offer for hanging out or cruising and meeting real people ... this is aside from just mongering.
I just got back from a stay in Medellin, and really forgot how much I really like it there.
They say (including me), that the Paisas can be much more stuck-up than other Colombianas. I have to say though, once you get away from the "Poblado chicas" ... Mangos,etc ... the Paisas really can be very friendly too. I met some really cool Paisas on this last visit.
Cali I also like. I have to say though, it's mostly for it's people.
The city is actually not so pretty and the climate can be hot and sticky ... but the Calenas, las chicas, are generally very friendly. Great for non-pro hunting for the spanish speakers.
Cartagena ... of course ... the much advertised PFP capital of Colombia.
Always fun, though I haven't been for a while.
I just like the non-pro opportunities of the other cities much better.
To most guys that ask me, I recommend Medellin if they want to enjoy a great city as well as chicas. If they're looking more of a party, I recommend Cartagena.
Suerte amigo!
I am visitng Cali in Janurary and would like guage its comparison to Brazil. For those that have gone, could you give me a Brasil type intinary.
this is an exerpt from my report on another site from january! just be careful!! on wsa, same handle!!
danger: i have for many years prior to going to cali have been told how dangerous cali can be with the cartels, farc and all but to honest, i felt completely safe in cali at all times but thats because i was in the "tourist" populated area and these areas are patrolled by a heavy police presence..i feel more safer in some areas in cali than i do in some of the areas in miami no kidding! but all of that was to come to crashing end one sunny tuesay, it was about 2pm and i was in a cab going to chipe chape then i see some police tape and a crowd gathering,, me peering out from the cab window anxoius to see what was going on, i see a giant pool of blood and a really shot up murdered at point blank dude,, a sick nauseous feeling starts to come over me,, all the emotions,, sick,, frightened, curious, and then a sudden erge to get out of cali and fast. but that was not it 2 blocks down i see more police tape, more crowd and another body hanging out the side of a car, blood still dripping down,, gross!! i talked to the cab driver and he told me that this was a more regular occurance than you might expect, but then again he told me i shouldnt really worry because he said this was an internal gang thing and it doesnt usually affect civilians,, like i really cared! i mean i just saw two murdered bodies connected, within 2 blocks of each other on a very busy street,, the problem is that they just leave the bodies out in the open like chopped beef,, i mean they dont even bother to cover them up or something like that... well this brought me down to earth realizing that cali can be very dangerous and take any and all advice seriously, use common sense but try not to let that effect your mongering.. i know it is easier said than done..
more:
the final word is cali can be safe if you take care, watch your back and please please use you common sense, stay away from downtown, you need to speak spanish at all times, there are not alot of gringos there for support, cali is not a tourist area, sometimes i went for miles and miles without seeing one cop! and even then im not sure if they could help you,, i am not detering you from colombia but as you can see i am giving you my heart felt opinion. we for the most part are american mongers and we need to try to help each other. peace mongers chino
[QUOTE=Zidaho]Hey Surfer,
Have you ever flown from Cali to Lima? About how much would that cost one way?? THanks.[/QUOTE]Check out LAN for the S.A. Pass for cheap flights to various cities at
[url]http://www.lan.com/promociones/data/norteamerica/us/todo_el_mundo/saairpass_preg.html[/url]
The deal is that you have to fly in to S.A. on LAN or an affiliate, and book in N.A.
Bogata to Lima is a little over US$100.
Very pretty girl (Paula)!
Cali can be dangerous, but Bucaramanga is the land mine capital of Colombia...most people killed by land mines around the world last year (year ending June 06).
[QUOTE=Paulothai]I like the pic of Paula, very beautifull girl ! Do you have more pics of her or did you post more pics of her already?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bandit25] Very pretty girl (Paula)![/QUOTE]
Paulthai & Bandit25,
I agree, Paula is beautiful. Here's three more of her. I have about 30 more of her but it takes time to resize pics ya know.
Cheers,
Cubanut
[QUOTE=Surfer]Cali is not the most dangerous city in Colombia at all. Barrancabermeja, in Santander Department on the Magdalena river, holds that ignominious distinction.[/QUOTE]
Gee, when did Barrancabermeja become a major city? [url]http://www.citypopulation.de/Colombia.html[/url] does not even list it in the top 20 and says that te population is under 200,000. I would call any of the top ten major cities.
Thanks for additional pic's.
Great shots!
I have been to Bucaramanga 8 times and this is the first i have heard of land mines there. One time when I was there some farmers were murdered by the Farc in the Santander district. It was not close to Bucaramanga.
I will be going to Cali this weekend. I need to know what hotels can be recommended that have good chica polcies. I would like to know if anyone has stayed at the Shearton? Also if the Intercontinental is good for chicas as well. Torre de Cali is booked. I would like to stay close to Pharohs if possible.
Also, I have never tried the girls that advertise in the classified ads or the girls listed below by World Traveler and was wonderiing if anyone has had experience with any of them.
thanks, if anyone is around please pm me for drinks !
Chicas on Call
1. Camila, Charges 70,000 60 mins., cell phone 310-410 1332.
2. Angie, She is 20 years old and charges 80,000 60 mins. cell phone 315-568 2077
3. Daniela & Liliana , Charges 60,000 60 mins. for a threesome, cell phone 310-849 8430.
4. Jeimy, Charges 60,000 for each hr. of service.
5. Yessi, Charges 40,000 60 mins., cell Phone 310-418 8408.
6. Andy, 20 years old, charges 80,000 60 mins. cell Phone 315-555 9326.
7. Adriana, She charges 80,000 60 mins. for her services. Apparently she works out of an apartment near the Chipichape Mall.
8. Andrea, She charges 60K (However, she has a friend, Johana 18yrs old, who works with her and you can get a package deal both gals for 120,000.
9. Konny, She charges 80,000 pesos per hour. She also offers package deals: Her and one of her room mates for 130,000 or her and both of her roommates for 190,000. Allegedly they are all between the ages of 18-20yrs old.
I´m in the Intercontinental now. Stayed in the Torre Cali before, which is a hole, IMHO. Intercontinental is expensive, I got the corporate rate of $113 a night including taxes and a room upgrade to a mini suite....excellent breakfast buffet. Nice pool, good gym with massage girls (don´t know if happy endings are on the menu), and no problem with the first girl visiting you. Like all other Colombian hotels I have stayed in, they make the girl register with her cedula. However, one entered and didn´t get asked...don´t know why not...must have slipped by. There are cameras on the floors. It is possible that they charge for a second girl if you haven´t booked a double) about 10 bucks more a night. President Uribe was here yesterday which says something about the kind of hotel it is.
I was surprised to read that info on Bucaramanga but it was at the top of the landmines list. Needless to say, they ain't planin' 'em in the city as the farmers have been the primary victims (according to the stuff I read).
cities are not mined (you cannot plant mines under concrete!). cambodia is the land mine capital of the world but it is no issue in phnom penh. i am sure the article is referring to santander department of which bucaramanaga is the "major" city.
tom: i did not say "major" city i said city. ask a cop what they think is the most dangerous city. i quote statistical fact. if by major city you mean departmental capital, then cucuta, santander del norte probably is the worst.
if the question is which city visited by foreign mongers is most dangerous then i would say bogota.
i am lookin: the closest hotel to pharaon is the torre (2 blocks walk along the river). i quite like the torre and never had them ask for my guests' cedulla, just don't use the phone to avoid being raped, despite my friend david's unfortunate experience there. torre is very popular so advance booking is essential.
the fourpoints (sheraton) is also walking distance to pharaon but they are notorious for charging about $20 for each guest (kdog told me and he stays there frequently). hotel versailles is a bit further but you could still walk it in 10 minutes. at night i do not suggest walking (taxis are so cherap) and pharaon is only open at night(although a few doors down is la clinica, the biggest and cheapest daytime casa in cali).
i would not be caught dead at the ic, the overpriced home of the marriage agencies and their clueless clients (if you want to find a wife in cali you need no agency!). everything is ridiculously overpriced there, including the italian restaurant (we took two chicas there one night to impress but i was unimpressed). way better fancy restaurants abound north of the sexta on avenidas 8n & 9n.
also a lousy area imho (just past la ermita, the gothic church just down the street, begins a very dangerous area which foreigners should avoid at all times).
Surfer;
How come you never rent an apartment in Cali? . Just an observation.
Congradulations of you sides win on Tuesday. Enough Said.
I am lookin
I never stayed at Interconnectal or sheraton they are to over priced for me. I usually dont stay in the hotel room most of the day. So as long as the hotel is clean and safe and hot water im cool.
However I do recommend the following.
I stayed at the ApartaHotel del rio located North of Cali. $86,000 a night - chica fee $10,000 [url]http://www.apartahoteldelrio.com/home.htm[/url]
It was good deal nice clean rooms a pool on the top floor breakfest included internet connection on the main floor. There was a chica fee but they dont enforce it as long as your low profile. I had girls spend the night on 4 differnet occasions. Very safe security guard in the front and secure helpfull staff. I stayed there Aug/Sept 7 days total. It was walking distance to Pharos (2 blocks) and another casa 1 block toward Torres de cali located on the second floor. Dr. Amor is 3 blocks. Friday Torres has a nice disco going nice lookin girls meet a non pro thier on a friday. If you plan to go to the sexta take a cab you will be charged the minimum service charge. I wouldnt recommend anyone to walk to the sexta at night its a little scary.
Thier was a Hotel getting remodeled right around the corner on 21 while I was thier located by the Bomberoes (FireFighters station). It was nice does anybody know that hotel has oppened yet? When it was getting remodeled I asked what the rates were going to be I remeber the rates were resnable.
Update on the Intercontinental. Do not stay here if you will be bringing in different girls. If you do, it doesn´t matter if it is at 10 in the morning or midnight, you WILL BE CHARGED $30 extra. The Sheraton charges if you bring in a girl at night, after 10, before that, no problem. But when they charged me at night in Medellin, I checked out the next day. Here in Cali, it appears that since I was such a nice guy, they weren´t charging me...and then surprised me today. I refused to sign for the charge, we´ll see what happens at check out.
Here for a short stay ( leaving Wednesday ) anyone interested in meeting for a few beers and visiting casas together please respond here or pm me before.
Also if anyone has any chica to recommend for room service please tell me,
thanks
not JUST for the joiner fee but for the type of folks it attracts. I always avoid it like the plague. The Cali version of the Medellin Mansion should go in that area (as opposed to on the upper Sexta where it apparently is).
4 points/Sheraton is a much better location, but I refuse to stay at hotels if they pull that joiner fee crap. If you want to spend that kind of dosh on a hotel room (over $100), Casa de Alferez is the bomb (as I told you BEFORE you left).
There is also a new, luxury, hotel that opened in South Cali but I have never stayed there.
Yeah, its the Radisson, supposed to be good, but its out of the way. My cab driver to the airport after hearing my ranting about the Intercontinental told me I should try the Aristi...I checked out the website and it looks promising.
SURFER,
How much has your lawyers fees gone up in San Fransisco in the last 3 years ?
No decision has been made yet on where the new Cali Mansion will be, we have made offers on a few properties but all offers have fallen through, we will be in Cali before Christmas though, lets see how much the price goes up.
In fact the Medellin Loutron Group is also going to Cali, regards to all.
Aussie Greg.
[QUOTE=Surfer]not JUST for the joiner fee but for the type of folks it attracts. I always avoid it like the plague. The Cali version of the Medellin Mansion should go in that area (as opposed to on the upper Sexta where it apparently is).
4 points/Sheraton is a much better location, but I refuse to stay at hotels if they pull that joiner fee crap. If you want to spend that kind of dosh on a hotel room (over $100), Casa de Alferez is the bomb (as I told you BEFORE you left).
There is also a new, luxury, hotel that opened in South Cali but I have never stayed there.[/QUOTE]
JUST got off the plane from Cali guys, it seem to be getting dirtier and dirtier, more and more poverty and never ever ending traffic and unfinished street construction. Just when i thought things couldnt be going any worse, 3 bombs apparently went off near my hotel planted by a "NEW" group FARC wanna be or something! Will try to find links and post them ASAP! Peace "Chino"
Greg: for the 100th time I NEVER said you (or the Mansion) was responsible for the increasing cost of mongering in Medellin! I know reading and writing in English does not come easily to you, but will you PLEASE either QUOTE where you think it is that I posted that or give it a rest?
Chino: Maybe Colombia needs to be destroyed in order to be saved (to use an analogy from the Vietnam War). A few FARC/ELN incursions into the tourist parts of Cali or Medellin (Laguito is too heavilty fortified) would be just what the doctor ordered. Say an Ejercito Poblacion (urban division of FARC) commando team hitting FloresFrescas just as the dildo show starts then grabbing a group of gringos and sequestering somewhere in Caqueta or Putomayo for a few months while bleeding their relatives and the US government for ransom money.
With the newly Democrat controlled Congress soon to open debate about reauthorization of PlanColombia, a spectacular urban offensive is pretty likely IMHO. For the record I am NOT condoning the FARC terrorists, but fear of their activities is what protected Colombia from the current plague (of Anglo sex tourists) for decades. As it is with ANY ecosystem, when a predator is removed or depopulated its prey proliferates in unhealthy numbers.
Prov/WestCoastWill: How about confining your posts to places you have actually screwed females (read: TJ and LA)?
Miami,
I found this article in the International Herald Tribune after reading your post. I'm thinking about canceling my upcoming trip. Seems like the shit is hitting the fan down there in Cali. I'll miss my chicas but at least I'll live to monger another day. I might just have to head back to Medellin for some (relatively) safer fun.
[url]http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/11/21/america/LA_GEN_Colombia_City_Bombings.php[/url]
Im happy with my spelling, I left school at 14 years of age to help my parents in their small business after dad was in the Australian Army in Korea and also the Western Australia Police Forse for 20 years.
Yes spelling is not one of my fine points, but I´m happy with it, maths is what I´m good at which only speaks for it self while I´ve been here in Colombia.
If any body has any spesific questions about the FARC/ELN then ask me and I´ll ask my girlfriend who is a member of the POLO congress here in Medellin, the youngest member in Colombia, she´s spending this week in Bogota at their annuial congress meeting.
As for the trouble in Cali this last week, Medellin Bob was their when a few bombs went off, just inturnial stuff.
Aussie G.
[QUOTE=Surfer]Greg: for the 100th time I NEVER said you (or the Mansion) was responsible for the increasing cost of mongering in Medellin! I know reading and writing in English does not come easily to you, but will you PLEASE either QUOTE where you think it is that I posted that or give it a rest?
Chino: Maybe Colombia needs to be destroyed in order to be saved (to use an analogy from the Vietnam War). A few FARC/ELN incursions into the tourist parts of Cali or Medellin (Laguito is too heavilty fortified) would be just what the doctor ordered. Say an Ejercito Poblacion (urban division of FARC) commando team hitting FloresFrescas just as the dildo show starts then grabbing a group of gringos and sequestering somewhere in Caqueta or Putomayo for a few months while bleeding their relatives and the US government for ransom money.
With the newly Democrat controlled Congress soon to open debate about reauthorization of PlanColombia, a spectacular urban offensive is pretty likely IMHO. For the record I am NOT condoning the FARC terrorists, but fear of their activities is what protected Colombia from the current plague (of Anglo sex tourists) for decades. As it is with ANY ecosystem, when a predator is removed or depopulated its prey proliferates in unhealthy numbers.
Prov/WestCoastWill: How about confining your posts to places you have actually screwed females (read: TJ and LA)?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gringo Loco]Miami,
I found this article in the International Herald Tribune after reading your post. I'm thinking about canceling my upcoming trip. Seems like the shit is hitting the fan down there in Cali. I'll miss my chicas but at least I'll live to monger another day. I might just have to head back to Medellin for some (relatively) safer fun.
[url]http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/11/21/america/LA_GEN_Colombia_City_Bombings.php[/url][/QUOTE]
Hey Loco ... My girlfriend is moving from Cali also. We just found an apartment in Pereira.
Between the street crime increasing there and the new and increased FARC activity, it's time to move to safer ground :)
Suerte!
This is a thread, not an english paper, people need to relax. we should be attacking each other simply becuase we do not agree not becuase we can not spell.
Whats the POLO congress is that the Colombia version of Junior Statesmen of America, an american high school practice political group?
As for the trouble in Cali this last week, Medellin Bob was their when a few bombs went off, just inturnial stuff.
Aussie G.[/QUOTE]
Just a "Few Bombs"? and that it maybe was "internal"? Maybe? That for some strange reason doesnt sound too soothing or convincing to me. Ha ha lol. The city was very on edge and you could see the concern on the peoples faces. My Novia did not want to go out on Thurday night nor did my cunado or his Novia. Cali im sorry to say has taken a turn for the worse. Peace "Chino" P.S. Thanks for the link "GRINGO" you saved me a bunch of time!
[QUOTE=Aussie Greg]
As for the trouble in Cali this last week, Medellin Bob was their when a few bombs went off, just inturnial stuff.
Aussie G.[/QUOTE]
Just like the bombs in Iraq ... internal stuff.
Terrorism is terrorism ... be careful out there boys!
Like Miami Heat said ... when the locals are nervous AND when Gringo Loco cancels his Cali trip ... there's a problem.
Take care y Suerte!
[QUOTE=Gringo Loco]Miami,
I found this article in the International Herald Tribune after reading your post. I'm thinking about canceling my upcoming trip. Seems like the shit is hitting the fan down there in Cali. I'll miss my chicas but at least I'll live to monger another day. I might just have to head back to Medellin for some (relatively) safer fun.
[url]http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/11/21/america/LA_GEN_Colombia_City_Bombings.php[/url][/QUOTE]
See you in Parque Lleras amigo! :)
Quoting from the article GL linked:
Cali's mayor, Apolinar Salcedo, told Caracol Radio "there's an order by the FARC to heighten its terrorist attacks against Cali and nearby areas."
Well it might be an "internal matter" but, as Ricker notes, so is the Iraqi civil war, errr, insurrection.
I am sure Ricker's novia is happy to be getting out of dodge and going home. Antifreeze also moved to Periera recently. Maybe Periera will be the new hotspot in Colombia ( I read earlier this year that American was considering adding a direct flight from Miami). Time to open another Mansion there, then Bogota, Barranquilla and Bucaramanga. Just imagine it, some day Mansions for mongers will be as ubiquitous as Mickey D's in the US. ):
A little bird recently PM'd me a story about Greg bringing a chica from Cali's biggest casa (La Clinica del Doctor Amor on Ave 2a along the river just down from Torre de Cali) to the Mansion and telling her to charge his beloved guests 150,000 per hour. This same chica had been content charging 38,000 at La clinica just the month before, and the house keeps about 40% of that.
After seeing that the Mansion's guests will pay 150,000 per hour, do you think she will again be satisfied with the rates at La Clinica??????????? Do you think she might tell her friends that the gringos will pay 150,000 for SHORT TIME????? I pay UP TO 150,000 for LT, usually 100 to 120, but NEVER for ST! Even Cali's most overpriced clipjoint Flores Frescas is cheaper than what they will charge after seeing the rates they can get at the Mansion!
Prov/WestCoastWill/BarebackBill: While I am culturally sensitive traveler, unlike you and your ilk, I WAS a part of the problem to an extent as I would pay more than locals, bargained less etc. But I am out of Colombia after a good ride of 15 trips over a little more than 3 years. In three days, I am off to Thailand then Laos before spending Xmas with my honeyko in Mindanao so I won't be posting here for quite awhile.
Were all Fucked
[QUOTE=Sailor2006]Were all Fucked[/QUOTE]This same situation happened in Beijing China, where Gringos pay up to 200USDollars for fat and old Chinese hookers, and under the pretext that:
One, they have no time to look around.
Two, they are rich and don't care.
Three, it get them harder to know that they are paying large.
What knocks me off is that their girls are really ugly!
A Chinese beauty: say boobs implement, tight round ass, 180cm tall, silky skin, long shiny black hair, going for 200USD like I had in GZ, I would say fine, as she would score the same in the States if not more.
However when looking at the pics those guys are posting, I really want to puke.
look at singapore, its alot cleaner then colombia, alot safer then colombia alot more modern the colombia, little more costly in taxis, hotels, but they have everything you can buy in the states and more, one would think with all this modern luxary the cost of pussy would be extermly high like say and western world country or the USA, but on gaylang 18(fishBowl) 40 Sing gets you 1/2 little more, if your a local, 80Sing gets you 45mins to an hour, were talking 25USD to 50USD, and the girls are TOP QUALITY, I have had some great sex there. Even the more expensive places like Orchard towers are still cheaper then colombia for example I would leave the ship at midnight get to orchard tower by 0100, pick up a girl by 3am after a couple of drinks and some searching, and pay her 150Sing to 200Sing about 95USD or 125USD for all night of sex or till 10AM most of the girls would stay that long, some of the more hard veterns would try and leave early. (I still had to pay taxi and hotel, but that was all under 20USD). And those girls were top quality as well.
Now take for example Colombia the prices are basically very similar if not a little higher, I wouldnt put some of the local MP in the same catagory as Gaylang 18, the girls don't measure up, in fact lutrons would be a place equal to some of the places on gaylang and lutron costs more 73USD, about 10-20 USD more actually. And False Dose or some of the local houses can cost you exit fee 120K-150K then 200K for the girl and she WILL LEAVE AFTER A FEW HOURS. Total bill for false dose is just under 200USD including cover and required drinks and I don't know many that will stay with you till 10AM. So in singapore 150USD got me a girl from 2AM or 3AM till morning usually 8AM-10AM, in colombia a girl from a house or a club can run equal to that or a little bit more
Now I am not "bitching" just comparing, and asking why in a modern country is pussy so closely priced to that of a dangerous third world country like colombia? I realize my prices may not match what is out there, there are steals and deals in both countries but I see them as closely priced, and just wonder why?
To answear my own question, I think mainly the prices difference is becuase the girls in singapore are brought over from their country on contract for a period of time, there % of the money is small, their passports are taken away and they are often not allowed to leave the building, thus creating a cheaper enviorment, taking away the girls right to be a **** with money. Also the freelancers at orchard tower are on toursit visa's (most) and are often not in country for long periods of time, and need to make as much money as possible in a short amount of time. Number 2 the country has many tourists from every country possible, and these guys don't pay that much for pussy, they just don't.
Sailor: Do you REALLY want all the guys going to Colombia to start going to SIN instead? If safety is a priority, there is no safer city ON EARTH than SIN. NONE. But SIN is also a police state with the many drawbacks of totalitarianism.
[QUOTE=Surfer]Sailor: Do you REALLY want all the guys going to Colombia to start going to SIN instead? If safety is a priority, there is no safer city ON EARTH than SIN. NONE. But SIN is also a police state with the many drawbacks of totalitarianism.[/QUOTE]
Ah!! But if everyone goes to Singapore then demand drops off. And prices go down. Surfer, you're a smart guy. You should encourage this!! :-)
Start telling stories about how the SIN authorities are so cool - that you can even get free spankings for chewing gum! Tell Nibu that they all have big tits! It's a great idea.
Then prices will come down and I will buy you a beer while we contemplate our pick of cheap chicas!!
Suerte!
Polvo
Hi everyone,
After a long, long 5 days drive from Colombia to Peru, I have just arrived to my new playground. I am here in Lima with my dear friend Screwed Up that is as screwed up as ever.
Here's what happened.
I used to live in Cali for 4 years. I ended up waking-up to the fact that the wife I had was a total *****. That is good enough for the USA, but in Colombia, with all the competition around, that doesn't fly for long. So, I ended up giving her the divorce that she deserved and went on. The hard thing was obviously the 2 kids that were in the middle. Anyhow, a failed mariage doesn't have to mean that the divorce has to fail. Well, it ended-up that the ex-to-be is so fucked-up in her head that she started to threat me and my surroundings. I had met my dear Edith that is most probably the best of Colombia, and she got some of my ex-wife's bad behavior.
In the process, to have some breathing room, I moved from Cali to Pereira in Colombia. Having a 3 hour drive between I and the ex-wife may help in getting a little less bullshit from her. That went well for 6 months. Then the threats and the criminal lawsuits against me started coming again. The justice system in Colombia is just a total mess. Could you believe that I had a criminal lawsuit against me because I sent my own daughter to the zoo with a friend (and came back the day after)? Well, if I can't be a dad with my daughter in that crazy country without risking jail time, then I am getting the Hell out of this nut country. I then brought my 2 kids to her mother, wish them all good life (kiss to the kids, and a slap in the face to the ex-wife), and then had to leave Colombia most probably forever with Edith (I hope).
We left Cali on a Saturday. I drive a 1974 Jeep Land-cruiser. Old car that often plays tricks on me. But the drive is only 3000 km or so, and having driven from Florida to Seatle twice plus through Canada a couple of times, what could go wrong?
Anyhow, on Saturdayit happened. The car breaks down in the Cauca. For those of you that do not know the Cauca, well it's FARC country. When you meet someone, you don't know who he is and how your interaction is going to end. The trouble was with the fuel pump. It happened at about 30-40 minutes south of Popayan. The meeting lotery ended up being good. We met good people that ended up helping us through this ordeal. It ended up being a 6 hour stall, and we were then back on the road.
Day one ended up in Pasto Colombia. Then comes day 2. We go to Ipiales to the Colombian border. I go through the border without an hitch. For Edith (a Colombian citizen) that is not the same. She needs a report from the DAS about her judicial status, and on a Sunday, the banks are not opened to make the deposit of their bribe money. Result: we need to wait until the next day in order to go through this bureaucracy. How beautiful is that? Anyhow, let's cut our losses and go to the hotel and work on a little antifreeze in the meantime.
The next day is the one. I go at the bank and make the deposit of the bribe money while she has her picture taken. All done within an hour. Then, we go through the Colombia border and the Ecuador border. The car brought some issues. I had my paperwork in order to go through borders, but did not think of Ecuador (more on that later). Customs at Ecuador's border did not appear to be an issue. So, we started our long journey south. We got stopped by police about 4 times in the first 200 km. After that, there was a custom check-point. I felt like it was going to be just another one of these checks and we're back on our way. They gave me shit about the fact that I needed a certificate of importation because I am more than 200 km into Ecuador and that a Colombian car can enter in Colombia but only until a certain point without that certificate. Bullshit, total bullshit.... We told people at customs at the border that we were heading to Peru. If they did not provide us with that certificate, then they have to be equivalently unprofessional and overlook it now. The agent tells me to go back at the border and ask for the report. I tell him that I will make the U-turn and do so. I get in the car, and kept driving while ignoring his fucking advice.
We drive south up to Quito. Going through a city is always a mess since a freeway melts down to normal streets (without signs) and you need to find your way through that mess to find the freeway again on the other end of the city. In the process of doing so, we are told that the pan-american freeway is closed today. That was odd. And what other road may we take to go south? None we are told. I keep on driving while ignoring that alarming input. Indeed, I get into a road block that will confirm my worst fears. What happened? I ask the cop. Was there an landslide, or something? No, there is a unlawful road-block to protest against the state of the road and they ask for 30 million dollars to fix the road. Why should I care, send the fucking army and show them who's the boss!!!! No, not in Ecuador. It was already closed for 2 days, and the protest made sure to close all exits south. We drove back to Quito and got an hotel to spend the night, maybe the day after it will open.
Go to an hotel, spend $24 USD for the room, and relax a bit after a stressfull day. Edith stays in the room while I go and fetch for some Internet. While I come back to the room, she tells me that she hitches everywhere. Good news: there are fleas in the room. The harm was already done, we switch bed but that wouldn't fix anything anyhow.
The morning after, I ask if the protest is done. No. So, I tell my darling that we'll have to drive north and west to go around that mess. It ended up being a 600 km little detour through the Ecuador rain forest. We drove almost to the Ecuador-Peru border that same day (about 15 hours drive) without seeing anymore customs. The following day was reserved for another border. Get the hell out of Ecuador and into Peru. I was frightened about the car and the custom paper to make Ecuador happy, but that's the aventure. We get to the border. What a mess it is at that border!!! First Ecuador's migration. No problem. Then, a couple of miles down the road comes the Peru border. I first stop to get some Soles (Peru's currency) on the street. Exchange $70 USD to Soles. Then an Ecuador custom agent gets to my window and asks me for my paperwork. I answer hiw with a smile. I look at Edith and tell her to buckle up and start driving the last 20 meters to Peru as if I did not hear him at all. She tells me that I am crazy! She may be right. Anyhow, that ended up being a good move since it was the end of it. Then comes Peru's custom agent. We push some more paperwork without problem (at least until now).
Then comes the Peru long drive. Roads in Peru are in excellent shape. Way better than Colombia and Ecuador. Other than the Ecuador fleas eating us alive, the trip was excellent. Half way into Peru, we stopped in a restaurant and I ask the guy to prepare a pool of water to drown the little bastards. I jump into the bucket with all my clothes and drowned them as expected and that was also the end of it for them.
Quite a trip. I am happy to be in Lima, but somewhat fearful towards that next chapter in my life. C'est la vie! This is adventure or not????
Saludos
Antifreeze with his lovely Edith (the best of Colombia) by his side.
You know, I was thinking of you while I was pumping a beautifull Pereira girl last Tuesday night in Pereira.
What a fucken story Freezer, I guess me having children in the furture I have something to look forward to !!!! keep a room for me mate, regards to you and the little one.
Aussie G.
[QUOTE=Antifreeze]Hi everyone,
After a long, long 5 days drive from Colombia to Peru, I have just arrived to my new playground. I am here in Lima with my dear friend Screwed Up that is as screwed up as ever.
Here's what happened.
I used to live in Cali for 4 years. I ended up waking-up to the fact that the wife I had was a total *****. That is good enough for the USA, but in Colombia, with all the competition around, that doesn't fly for long. So, I ended up giving her the divorce that she deserved and went on. The hard thing was obviously the 2 kids that were in the middle. Anyhow, a failed mariage doesn't have to mean that the divorce has to fail. Well, it ended-up that the ex-to-be is so fucked-up in her head that she started to threat me and my surroundings. I had met my dear Edith that is most probably the best of Colombia, and she got some of my ex-wife's bad behavior.
In the process, to have some breathing room, I moved from Cali to Pereira in Colombia. Having a 3 hour drive between I and the ex-wife may help in getting a little less bullshit from her. That went well for 6 months. Then the threats and the criminal lawsuits against me started coming again. The justice system in Colombia is just a total mess. Could you believe that I had a criminal lawsuit against me because I sent my own daughter to the zoo with a friend (and came back the day after)? Well, if I can't be a dad with my daughter in that crazy country without risking jail time, then I am getting the Hell out of this nut country. I then brought my 2 kids to her mother, wish them all good life (kiss to the kids, and a slap in the face to the ex-wife), and then had to leave Colombia most probably forever with Edith (I hope).
We left Cali on a Saturday. I drive a 1974 Jeep Land-cruiser. Old car that often plays tricks on me. But the drive is only 3000 km or so, and having driven from Florida to Seatle twice plus through Canada a couple of times, what could go wrong?
Anyhow, on Saturdayit happened. The car breaks down in the Cauca. For those of you that do not know the Cauca, well it's FARC country. When you meet someone, you don't know who he is and how your interaction is going to end. The trouble was with the fuel pump. It happened at about 30-40 minutes south of Popayan. The meeting lotery ended up being good. We met good people that ended up helping us through this ordeal. It ended up being a 6 hour stall, and we were then back on the road.
Day one ended up in Pasto Colombia. Then comes day 2. We go to Ipiales to the Colombian border. I go through the border without an hitch. For Edith (a Colombian citizen) that is not the same. She needs a report from the DAS about her judicial status, and on a Sunday, the banks are not opened to make the deposit of their bribe money. Result: we need to wait until the next day in order to go through this bureaucracy. How beautiful is that? Anyhow, let's cut our losses and go to the hotel and work on a little antifreeze in the meantime.
The next day is the one. I go at the bank and make the deposit of the bribe money while she has her picture taken. All done within an hour. Then, we go through the Colombia border and the Ecuador border. The car brought some issues. I had my paperwork in order to go through borders, but did not think of Ecuador (more on that later). Customs at Ecuador's border did not appear to be an issue. So, we started our long journey south. We got stopped by police about 4 times in the first 200 km. After that, there was a custom check-point. I felt like it was going to be just another one of these checks and we're back on our way. They gave me shit about the fact that I needed a certificate of importation because I am more than 200 km into Ecuador and that a Colombian car can enter in Colombia but only until a certain point without that certificate. Bullshit, total bullshit.... We told people at customs at the border that we were heading to Peru. If they did not provide us with that certificate, then they have to be equivalently unprofessional and overlook it now. The agent tells me to go back at the border and ask for the report. I tell him that I will make the U-turn and do so. I get in the car, and kept driving while ignoring his fucking advice.
We drive south up to Quito. Going through a city is always a mess since a freeway melts down to normal streets (without signs) and you need to find your way through that mess to find the freeway again on the other end of the city. In the process of doing so, we are told that the pan-american freeway is closed today. That was odd. And what other road may we take to go south? None we are told. I keep on driving while ignoring that alarming input. Indeed, I get into a road block that will confirm my worst fears. What happened? I ask the cop. Was there an landslide, or something? No, there is a unlawful road-block to protest against the state of the road and they ask for 30 million dollars to fix the road. Why should I care, send the fucking army and show them who's the boss!!!! No, not in Ecuador. It was already closed for 2 days, and the protest made sure to close all exits south. We drove back to Quito and got an hotel to spend the night, maybe the day after it will open.
Go to an hotel, spend $24 USD for the room, and relax a bit after a stressfull day. Edith stays in the room while I go and fetch for some Internet. While I come back to the room, she tells me that she hitches everywhere. Good news: there are fleas in the room. The harm was already done, we switch bed but that wouldn't fix anything anyhow.
The morning after, I ask if the protest is done. No. So, I tell my darling that we'll have to drive north and west to go around that mess. It ended up being a 600 km little detour through the Ecuador rain forest. We drove almost to the Ecuador-Peru border that same day (about 15 hours drive) without seeing anymore customs. The following day was reserved for another border. Get the hell out of Ecuador and into Peru. I was frightened about the car and the custom paper to make Ecuador happy, but that's the aventure. We get to the border. What a mess it is at that border!!! First Ecuador's migration. No problem. Then, a couple of miles down the road comes the Peru border. I first stop to get some Soles (Peru's currency) on the street. Exchange $70 USD to Soles. Then an Ecuador custom agent gets to my window and asks me for my paperwork. I answer hiw with a smile. I look at Edith and tell her to buckle up and start driving the last 20 meters to Peru as if I did not hear him at all. She tells me that I am crazy! She may be right. Anyhow, that ended up being a good move since it was the end of it. Then comes Peru's custom agent. We push some more paperwork without problem (at least until now).
Then comes the Peru long drive. Roads in Peru are in excellent shape. Way better than Colombia and Ecuador. Other than the Ecuador fleas eating us alive, the trip was excellent. Half way into Peru, we stopped in a restaurant and I ask the guy to prepare a pool of water to drown the little bastards. I jump into the bucket with all my clothes and drowned them as expected and that was also the end of it for them.
Quite a trip. I am happy to be in Lima, but somewhat fearful towards that next chapter in my life. C'est la vie! This is adventure or not????
Saludos
Antifreeze with his lovely Edith (the best of Colombia) by his side.[/QUOTE]
Hey amigo! Hope things work out well for you two in Peru. Sounds like you had quite an adventure.
Though I wasn't thinking of you while with my chica from Pereira, I do wish you and Edith well.
Can anyone of you tell me how is the business in Cali doing with the women, I love going over there last time I was in Jan 2006 I had a blast there is a lot of ways to get some snatch, either free in la calle sexta, or the burdeles like faraones, well I used love to colombian women, although the best for me is brazilian mixed with european like my wife, I did a lot of pussy hunting in Cali since 2004, I also been around Europe and other countries in South America, to the gentleman Antifreeze let me say, you made the right choice, getting a Colombian women was a good move, because peruvian women are not attractive at all, I'm half peruvian-half chilean, and I don't like neither side, well I will be hanging out on this post hopefully by March I should get my free time and head down to Cali. Well from my previous time I was in las torres de Cali and I met 4 different ladies from two latino websites, oh well three went down for the pipe the other one was money digging *****, then I did my routes around la calle sexta meet a few girls and took some nympho back to my hotel she was a sexmaniac, then I also went to las casas de cita de chicas around las torres de cali area, a lot of ass everywhere, and prices were good and affordable, Cali women are very strong and hot blooded, well thank all and hope to be a helpful for the new school guys as well as the old school! CARLOS!
I am just looking for advice. I have my two week setup to go to Cali, Colombia. I will be leaving on January 14, 2007 and will return on February 4, 2007. I have met this incredible ass delicious cutie in Cali. I have several questions:
1. I met this Cali girl (Jiovana) on Cybercupidos.com. We have been talking on and off since April 06. How do I know if this chick is a pro or a non-pro? Frnkly I have not been able to get any hints that she is a pro? She says she works in a Print shop. She has not given me any hints that she is a working girl. I have asked her a couple of times if she wants to go with me to San Andres for a weekend and everytime I get the same response:My mother will not let me go.
2. How is the FARC situation in Cali? I read a couple of reports that a couple of bombs were set off. My Cali girl tells me that these bombs did not hurt anybody. The bomb were use to kidnap some local officials. Is it safe for a first timer to go Cali with a girl he just met on the net?
3. Where do people recommend staying in Cali?
Sorry if I have ask questions that have been asked before and answer. Thank you in advance for the members that give me a prompt response.
Oye mi hermano, Cubanut, ojala que yo encuentre una esperiencia como tu encontraste en Medellin.
Cubanut, are you going to be in Colombia around the time I am in Colombia?
Cali seems to be a dodgy town, i mean I see these hot ass models on the caliescali.com website but surely not many hotties look like that despite what many gringos say, and if they do look like that i doubt they are going to be on gringo dick unless you are a millionaire and you live there 24/7. I saw many gals like that in rio and they didnt even look at me let alone give me that chance to pump them with enigma juice. being darker skinned added more salt to a wound. So i wonder if Cali is worth it. I have the money but it sounds like a bust.
no te preoccupas tropo amigo !
colombian chics are not your regular us female attitude (not for now at least), no reason to be or become paranoica !
the reason why 'la mama' does not want her to leave with you to san andres is maybe she is still ****d for such 'experiences' in her opinion. you will have to convince la mama first of your real intenciones with the cuty pie. or do you believe it is unusual for the mother to protect her beloved daughter from a gringo like you ? ;-)
what i suggest you for renting or lodging is ask the chica to find for you an apartment in cali. you will be better off compared to hotel rooms. and you will be totally free in what to do and bringing in chicas. price/quality is very good affordable. there are plenty of secured apartment areas over cali town. with guards carrying loaded kalashnicovs to keep the bugs outside the compounds. :o
meanwhile (if you are lucky) you have a private swimming pool inside the secured area.
dont worry about farc and other 'irregular' types of people. just use common sense and do not walk alone in dodgy side streets alone at night. the most problems and troubles for tourists are not from the farc, but from petty criminals and pick poketeers. keep on the main roads like avenida sexta. leave your pimp golden neckless at home, included your golden rolex. do not wear armani suits, but nice trousers and shirts which do not flash at night. mingle in, and dont exhagerate... the usual stuff to keep a low profile. and you will be just fine ! dont worry, the chics will find you ! it is not necessary to chase them, they will chase you !!
take a look at casa de cervesa near ave sexta. go in on a friday or sat night, chics dancing on the tables, drinking beer (jiraffa's). ;-)
score ratio : 95 %
only (again) common senses to be used. do not interfere into girls sitting next to other boyfriends.... or when you are not sure the pray is without a hubby or boyfriend inside the room. keep your distance, or the boyfriend will find you ! do not ask a girl possessing a boyfriend for a dance. you will get hit by the boyfriend for sure. most colombians are quiet 'jealous', and see their commitment as property or real estate. so, do not tresspass the property lines.
enigma84, you are talking shit. do not compare rio with colombia.
there is a saying about brasilieras in colombia. :-)
[b]brasillian woman are the substitute of the average colombian woman but without the brains inside.[/b] and they hit it exactly with this saying. in fact i know some brasillian men, who got themselves a colombian woman for this reason. colombian woman go study and work together to be someone in life. brasillian woman do not have the slightest clue how to manage such a life. they rather go horizontal without thinking. hoping they caught a big fish, who will play the sponsor the rest of their existence. colombianas are quiet different on this issue.... off course exceptions make the rules everywhere.
Cream on top you obviously didn't read my post. I said the "10"s of cali that you see on caliescali.com don't fuck with gringos, even though gringos like to make out they do. I will have a harder time in Cali since I am going to be chasing non-pros. Chasing non pros in Rio is easy and the women don't mind darker skinned men. Gringos I speak to say BAQ is better for non-pros also more tolerent of black men.
I need some help. The apartment that I rent usually in Cali ( near Chippichape), is rented during my stay in March. I am looking to spend up to, but not over $ 50 a night for an apartment with a kitchen, full bath, bedroom etc... for a week in mid march. I prefer to stay near Chippachape, and near avenida sexta.
Does anyone have any recommendations?, and does anyone know or has anyone stayed at Hostal San Fernando on the south side of Cali?
Thanks.....
[QUOTE=El Cubanito]Cubanut, are you going to be in Colombia around the time I am in Colombia?[/QUOTE]
I will be in Cali from 1-12-07 to 1-23-07.
I don't know if I can elaborate any more than Cream on top did about the questions you raised and yes they have been asked and answered before.
BUT:
1. This first question is not a question so nothing to answer.
2. Are you asking if it's safe to assume that the girl is not FARC? I don't think FARC is recruiting girls to lure tourists on Cybercupidos to be kidnapped. As far as being blown up in Cali. I think your chance of winning the lottery has equal chances. Now if you ask if you can be mugged, my answer is yes but that goes for many countries and cities as well as my own city. It all depends on how safety minded you are and so I don't suggest you stroll around a park at night with justyour girl. You get the picture.
3. Where to Stay in Cali? Depends on if you want to impress your girl or just have a place to lay your head or if you want a little something more. Consider that [url]www.calipenthouse.com[/url] is an apartment that runs $125 per night near the Chippichape mall. Great if you really want to impress the girl. However a smaller apartment or hotel will run you much per night although the hotel may chareg an overnight guest fee. There are Several hotels like thw Windsor Plaza or the Hotel Versailles is impressive as well as well as the Dann Carlton.
Cheers,
Cubanut
[QUOTE=Cubanut] ...
2. Are you asking if it's safe to assume that the girl is not FARC? I don't think FARC is recruiting girls to lure tourists on Cybercupidos to be kidnapped. As far as being blown up in Cali. I think your chance of winning the lottery has equal chances. Now if you ask if you can be mugged, my answer is yes but that goes for many countries and cities as well as my own city. It all depends on how safety minded you are and so I don't suggest you stroll around a park at night with justyour girl. You get the picture ...
[/QUOTE]
Great people in Cali ... but trust me, I have many friends there and I visit quite frequently ... the city has very high crime.
Best to keep in the better parts of the city and be smart.
My girlfriend just moved back to Pereira due to the insecurity in Cali.
Suerte
Since this is my first time in Cali. Yes I am thinking of renting the Cali penthhouse. No, I am not doing it to impress the girl. I am doing it more because it is a place that I have seen the picture and it looks like a very good place to stay on my first visit to Colombia. Listen maybe we can hook up and have a beer and talk about some common war stories (mongering).
BTW, the story that you wrote on the Medellin website about leydis is priceless.
Thanks for all of the info Cream on Top and Cubanut.
Luis the Great, thanks for the PM.
I hope to see you in Cali Cubanut.
El Cubanito
We stayed at Aparthotel Monte Carlo in Zona Rosa on Calle 22N & 5N-15, 2 blocks from La Sexta. Six floors, I think 4 apartments on each floor. No elevator. I flipped my friends for the 2nd floor apartment, while they had the 4th and 6th floors. The price was right. Less than US$35/night. However there was a thief amongst the micro 2 or 3 person staff. Each apartment had a regular lock as well as a deadbolt lock that used a different key. However one of the hotel's guests said that someone had been in his room and stolen his $2000 laptop.
I did not notice any of my things missing until 4: 30 the next morning when I was leaving. My jacket was missing along with my SD cards and an expensive pen. A cell phone was stolen from my friend's apartment. I went downstairs and asked the night desk clerk if he could call the owner (we had seen the lady the two previous days.) He said he had no way to call her. So I told him to call the police. He didn't call at first while I continued talking with my friends. I raised my voice, "did you call the police? " Then he immediately called. While waiting for the police to arrive he went upstairs to check to see what we had consumed. The police arrived and went right to the rooms. They came back downstairs and told me that they would write a report but there was nothing they could do. I thanked them and they left. The guy came back downstairs and said that I owed 40, 000 pesos for the things I consumed. I told him that I was not paying for shit because someone who works there stole my things. Then he decided that he knew how to get in touch with the owner, because if he didn't collect the money from me it would come out of his paycheck. I was kind enough to leave my card with all of my information and what was stolen and the prices but vowed that I would never stay there again.
[QUOTE=Enigma84]Cream on top you obviously didn't read my post. I said the "10"s of cali that you see on caliescali.com don't fuck with gringos, even though gringos like to make out they do. I will have a harder time in Cali since I am going to be chasing non-pros. Chasing non pros in Rio is easy and the women don't mind darker skinned men. Gringos I speak to say BAQ is better for non-pros also more tolerent of black men.[/QUOTE]I would have to disagree with you about top notch Cali non-pros not wanting to deal with gringoes and about Cali women not digging black men. I see you mentioned Rio. If you have already been there then you will probably consider most other places (Land of Smiles excluded! ) a waste of your time and money, because of the 30 countries I have been to nothing has come close. Thanks to the forum and online dating sites I had already had everything preprogrammed (except accomodations) before I arrived in Cali.
I didn't do any mongering there. I tried, but like I said after Rio and Bangkok. It is like being raised on steak and being forced to downgrade to bolonga sandwiches. So I stuck with my non-pros for extracurricular activites. The first casa we went to was run by a guy named Diego (316-440-5125). It was nothing like I expected. It felt like we were going to someones house (hmmm. Maybe that is why it is called a casa! ) and not looking for P4P. But really, when we were knocking I thought someone would come to the door and curse us out because it was the wrong address. But we were at the right place. You go in, sit on the couch, then the girls come out one at a time with regular street clothes on and tell you their name and shake your hand then they immediately return to the back. You don't even have enough time to get a good look at the girls to build your lust or attraction. Diego was kind enough to take us around to some other spots that we had on the list. We paid for the taxi of course. Every spot had the same set-up and formalities as the first. There was no sitting down with the girls to talk shit before you choose one; only sitting on the couch with the rest of the guys. You basically have to choose in the 15 seconds that she comes out to introduce herself. I didn't get a chance to experience any of the 'clubs' because they do not open until night and my two nights were already reserved for my non-pros. Non-pro pictures below.
The ability - will - desire of those so called 10's to fuck, does not only depend on how she feels about herself. But MAINLY how you treat her.....
And this is not only for Cali but for most parts of our zoological garden (world).
Enigma84 and many others here, understand that YOUR attitude towards the chica will proof your succes or failiure.
1. take away their prejudgments about skin color (black or white)
2. convince them of exactly what your intentions are
3. show them you are not the regular asshole on hollidays to srew and leave
4. be yourself ! (do not run around with your brains between the legs).
5. treat them with R E S P E C T. (many are not used to it) be Caballero !
I'm sure with these few simple rules, you too Enigma84 will fuck 10's in Cali. You seem to me only in your mid 20's. (84 = 22 years of age ?) In these circumstances you should be screwing everything on this planet available.
Only one more thing. Don't look for 10's in the regular dirty bars. There you can find only 10's with an attitude equal to western women. They don't worth our dicks. I never would go chase pussie in a Rio bar like HELP. This is pathetic environment only meant for ripping off tourists. Every city has such bars and disco's. Find the real original local pubs and dancing halls. That's where you score and find the real genuine freebies.
I went to Cali, was there 8 days, and every single night I slept with a pussy on my dick. And not only for an hour, but all night long. Charges ? ZERO DINERO.
Even in Bogota where I arrived my first day. I had arranged my meetings upfront and I fucked the complete night with a 28 year old Industrial enginiera. It is no miracle in Colombia, it is hard fact ! Even for an old blocke like me. She might not be a 10 for you, but she was an 8+ to me.
It seems that you have been in all of the major Colombian cities. Which is your favorite for mongering.
Well based on the below written report, This place comes off of the list. sorry about the hassles you guys received Mr. enternational.
Cream on Top thanks for the feedback and she is a very nice girl. your right I am 24 so I am fairly young compared to most guys here.
I agree with your observation of nightclubs. Overrated in my opinion if you want to meet girls. Malls and shops and better esp for 10's. And if you plan on taking a girl to a nightclub thats a different matter but nightclubs in general are a bad place to meet women. Most girls are on some sort of ego trip and gun men down at nightclubs just for the fun of it.
I will try Cali and BAQ in JAN. Cant wait.
[QUOTE=MJG Dogs]I need some help. The apartment that I rent usually in Cali ( near Chippichape), is rented during my stay in March. I am looking to spend up to, but not over $ 50 a night for an apartment with a kitchen, full bath, bedroom etc... for a week in mid march. I prefer to stay near Chippachape, and near avenida sexta.
Does anyone have any recommendations?, and does anyone know or has anyone stayed at Hostal San Fernando on the south side of Cali?
Thanks.....[/QUOTE]I used calicalicaliente.com last time I was in Colombia, although they are primarily a mail order bride service they do sometimes rent out an apts they gave me a choice of a penthouse or a regular apt. I dont remember the prices but it was definatley worth it. The owner took me out to all the great clubs and partied with me and introduced me to a tons of chicas I loved it.
Please note there are two Apartahotels walking distance from each other
ApartaHotel MonteCarlo, and
Apartahotel Del Rio [url]www.apartahoteldelrio.com[/url]
I walked by the ApartHotel MonteCarlo, look like a dump. On a corner doesnt even look like a hotel.
I personally stayed at Apartahotel del Rio on the recomendation of another monger. Great place I totally felt safe. Security outside. Maids where nice pleasent. Pool on the top floor. Gym Internet access in the business room.
I stayed there with a couple of different chics no girl fee charged.
However I guess it could have happened to me to. I usually keep a low profile so they must think theres nothing to steal. Then again I have had a laptop that I would plug into there LAN. But I left Cali with it.
Luis;
Yes I have heard a lot of good things about Apartamental Del rio, however isn't it a bit far from chippachape?
Has any monger had any taxi incidents (charging them extra money, getting mug by the taxi driver,etc...) with the taxis at the Cali Airport taking them to their Hotel or lodging when they have arrived?
Again, sorry if this has been covered before.
El CUbanito
What's up. I'll be in Cali from Dec. 23 - Dec. 30 for the Feria and cabalgata. This will be my first time in Cali so I'm pretty psyched. Anyone else around?
After Cali I'll be in MDE until Jan. 5 then returning back home to Bogota.
Hello all,
VatosLocos is taking his ass to Cali for 1st time, after many times to sexparadise Rio!
Off course after reading reports here from many many mongers that have paved the way.
Well i will be in Cali from 21st febr till 14th march 2007, anyone who is also there and would love to exchange experiences and mayby adventure some like me. (means mongering AND non-pro!) please get in contact with me through this site.
And off course when I will be back, reports will follow and hopefully loads of good and juizy Pics!
VatoLocos
[QUOTE=Dwayne]What's up. I'll be in Cali from Dec. 23 - Dec. 30 for the Feria and cabalgata. This will be my first time in Cali so I'm pretty psyched. Anyone else around?
After Cali I'll be in MDE until Jan. 5 then returning back home to Bogota.[/QUOTE]I'm in Cali now foe the Feria. Visit Avenida Sexta its full of 8 to 10's. Where are you staying at? Lets get together.
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Hello all, After going to Cali every six weeks for the past year and a half a bit of violence finally hit home,, after a nice fun filled day with the NOVIA in el centro, on the way home in the taxi we stopped at my apartamento and she gets out to open the door and puts the key in the door to open it, i tell the cab driver to drive on, because i was on my way for a 7pm massage apointment, I get a call two minutes later from her brother panicking on is cell phone that my baby was held-up two minutes ago in front of the apratment by 3 men and one woman on dirt bikes, who strongheld her and physically removed her cell phone, told her to be quiet OR ELSE and then sped-off and left her physically and emotionally in distress, I get home to find her crumbled-up on the kitchen floor in shock and unstopable crying, i try to console her to no avail, telling her that thank-god she is alive and not hurt or dead and that the superficial products can be easily replaced, and thank-god that that they didnt go into the apartment and rob the place WITH ALL MY STUFF including laptop and ipod, etc etc, why didnt they go in? because this was a random act and they didnt know whom or what was waiting for them inside, my CUNADO told me that this was a random normal day in CALI and just another statistic, which i sorrily agree to, but this really hit close to home and opened my eyes even more, to see this once proud, beautiful, strong CALENA, reduced to a mere statistic! ON ANOTHER NOTE, a very good friend of mine who is in CTG, the same times as me during the feria in CALI, HAS just told me that girls in CTG are asking for 300k ST and Beach girls are asking 150k, CHEAPEST or walking!!, i dont know if this is because it is peak season or something here to stay,, now take it, this is coming from the mouth of a very seasoned monger who has been in COLOMBIA, DR, CR, BRAZIL and CUBA! ITS official, CTG is RUINED and ANOTHER CR, end of story! which city will be next? Peace mongers and be safe "CHINO"
If you make the trip to Cali, watch yourself.
My taxista buddy was stopped at a traffic light the other night and a motorcycle pulled beside him with a pistol directed at him.
He said it was common occurence.
Fun can be had, but tenga cuidado!
Suerte!
Wow it must have just gotten rough lately.....I was there most of the summer...No Drama just love
Sad to hear
Ricker: is that our taxista friend F who got a gun pointed at him? Give him my regards. Also to the lovely and adorable Seniorita C.
Must admit the fear factor is one thing I don't miss about not going to Colombia any more (I am back in Asia camp). Suerte
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]Hello all, After going to Cali every six weeks for the past year and a half a bit of violence finally hit home,, after a nice fun filled day with the NOVIA in el centro, on the way home in the taxi we stopped at my apartamento and she gets out to open the door and puts the key in the door to open it, i tell the cab driver to drive on, because i was on my way for a 7pm massage apointment, I get a call two minutes later from her brother panicking on is cell phone that my baby was held-up two minutes ago in front of the apratment by 3 men and one woman on dirt bikes, who strongheld her and physically removed her cell phone, told her to be quiet OR ELSE and then sped-off and left her physically and emotionally in distress, I get home to find her crumbled-up on the kitchen floor in shock and unstopable crying, i try to console her to no avail, telling her that thank-god she is alive and not hurt or dead and that the superficial products can be easily replaced, and thank-god that that they didnt go into the apartment and rob the place WITH ALL MY STUFF including laptop and ipod, etc etc, why didnt they go in? because this was a random act and they didnt know whom or what was waiting for them inside, my CUNADO told me that this was a random normal day in CALI and just another statistic, which i sorrily agree to, but this really hit close to home and opened my eyes even more, to see this once proud, beautiful, strong CALENA, reduced to a mere statistic! ON ANOTHER NOTE, a very good friend of mine who is in CTG, the same times as me during the feria in CALI, HAS just told me that girls in CTG are asking for 300k ST and Beach girls are asking 150k, CHEAPEST or walking!!, i dont know if this is because it is peak season or something here to stay,, now take it, this is coming from the mouth of a very seasoned monger who has been in COLOMBIA, DR, CR, BRAZIL and CUBA! ITS official, CTG is RUINED and ANOTHER CR, end of story! which city will be next? Peace mongers and be safe "CHINO"[/QUOTE]
When the novia wants an updated cell, and the brother knows he gets the old one, Jerry Bruckheimer coud not write a better script. Probably not the case in your situation, but half the robberies of novias around the world never happen. We are the only ones getting robbed!!
I agree with you CTG has sunk and MDE is out of life boats as well. We must act now! I have managed to find three new destinations where you can still be king at a reasonable rate but I find that only my closest friends can be told about them. I fear the overpayers and weekend warriors will ruin those as well.
Fantasy, on most days or occasions i would tend to agree with you, but if that was so, why wouldnt she have waited till I was in the states to tell me that her cell phone was stolen and she was mugged rather than to have to put on a convincing oscar winning act in front of me? Where i would have to see her ever convincing facial expressions. I have been seeing my novia for almost a year and i know her mannerisms. I am a seasoned monger beleive me. I have been around the block, more than a few times and trust me when i tell you, "where these bitches are going, IVE ALEADY had a coffee and returned" Cant play a player especially this one! Ha
[QUOTE=Fantasy]When the novia wants an updated cell, and the brother knows he gets the old one, Jerry Bruckheimer coud not write a better script. Probably not the case in your situation, but half the robberies of novias around the world never happen. We are the only ones getting robbed!!
I agree with you CTG has sunk and MDE is out of life boats as well. We must act now! I have managed to find three new destinations where you can still be king at a reasonable rate but I find that only my closest friends can be told about them. I fear the overpayers and weekend warriors will ruin those as well.[/QUOTE]
If I had a dime for everytime I heard this one. I certainly am not picking on you, matter of fact I even said that most likely it was not true in your case, but I thought it was a good oppurtunity to remind everyone to be on their toes at all times.
[QUOTE=Fantasy]If I had a dime for everytime I heard this one. I certainly am not picking on you, matter of fact I even said that most likely it was not true in your case, but I thought it was a good oppurtunity to remind everyone to be on their toes at all times.[/QUOTE]
Im not saying nor am I incinuating that your "picking on me" in the least, No harm no foul, In a matter of fact, I like when people add thier 2 cents! Peace Mongers "chino"
[QUOTE=Fantasy] .... I have managed to find three new destinations where you can still be king at a reasonable rate but I find that only my closest friends can be told about them. I fear the overpayers and weekend warriors will ruin those as well.[/QUOTE]
You sir are a wise man :)
I arrived there at 10pm.
There’s an other club next door to the right (didn’t get in).
The place had 15-20 girls, nothing special to my taste, but I saw a couple of doable.
The guy proposed me a beer but as I never drink any alcohol or soda, he had nothing for me! Not even a bottle of water!
But I sat and girls came to present themselves.
I had seen a tall white skinny girl, but she came last, and didn’t seemed to be very interested, so I choose a very skinny “morenita” : Jamie.
Prices are 30K for 20 minutes, 45K for 30 minutes and 60K for an hour.
Condom and room are paid by the girl.
The room is a little bit scrappy but major problem is no Fan, so temperature got high and I got sweat.
I started with my favourite oral exploration and she didn’t say no when I teased her ass.
This is not so common here.
Her oral technique was poor and she was not very please to suck me uncovered.
So I left her cover me but with the condom I can hardly feel something if the girl is not very good, wish was not the case.
So, I started with classical positions, and after a while I decided to make my way to the tiny ass.
She helped me to get in !!! And she remained ok all the (long) way (10 minutes ?).
But I was exhausted and was not able to come.
So she gave me a very short massage because the game was over and the girl outside had stroke at our door twice already.
So, if you like skinny “Morenita” and if anal is something you like, Jamie is to be your girl.
Her Cell number is : 311 392 42 03
Enjoy.
I have a gf there and I was wondering if anyone knows anything about that area? safety?
thanks
If you are talking about Florida (maybe a hour and a half to the east by bus), not La Florida, I was there for a day at the end of July. Met a guy that was born there and teaches at the high school. Went out one day and he showed me around town - introduced me to a lot of people - it was a nice experience. We took a short trip to another town with a taxi driver friend of his and one of his former students.
The mountains to the east of town are reputed to be an area of possible guerrilla activity, but the trip out there from Cali was said to be safe. My host didn't seem to have any concerns about guerrillas, and for whatever it's worth, I never felt unsafe on the roads or in town. Florida did have several soldiers in the downtown that were standing inside sandbag areas, and I did see some small groups of soldiers walking around town.
But, I was with a native, for whatever that was worth. I have heard a lot about the surrounding areas of Cali still being insecure, especially further to the south.
Hope this helps.
Now this cant be good for Cali cartel/gringo relations! Can it? Be careful out there!
$50 million drug-money seizure may be biggest score ever
POSTED: 10:55 p.m. EST, January 17, 2007
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• Colombian police find millions in U.S. currency, euros in three raids
• Large quantity of gold found behind wall
• U.S. drug agents present during raids
• Money, gold thought to belong to top cocaine-trafficking cartel
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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Colombian national police recovered close to $50 million in U.S. currency as well as other money during three raids in the past week on houses used to stash drug proceeds, a U.S. official told CNN on Wednesday.
It is thought to be the most money ever seized by a law enforcement agency in the world, said the official, who requested anonymity due to the sensitive nature of the investigation.
The raids were conducted following a tip from a source working with the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration, the official told CNN. The DEA then provided information to the Colombian National Police.
The first of the raids -- all of which were conducted in the Cali area -- took place Friday, and $13 million and more than €2 million was seized. The cash was in a false cabinet and wall that led to a hidden room. Another cash seizure took place Tuesday, when police recovered $16 million to $18 million.
Separately, another house was searched on Wednesday and a large quantity of gold was found. Officials said a wall had to be destroyed to get to the gold.
DEA agents accompanied Colombian police on the raids, the DEA official said.
The money and gold likely belonged to a member of the Norte Valle Cartel, which dominates the cocaine trade in Colombia, the official told CNN.
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]Now this cant be good for Cali cartel/gringo relations! Can it? Be careful out there!
$50 million drug-money seizure may be biggest score ever
POSTED: 10:55 p.m. EST, January 17, 2007
Story Highlights
• Colombian police find millions in U.S. currency, euros in three raids
• Large quantity of gold found behind wall
• U.S. drug agents present during raids
• Money, gold thought to belong to top cocaine-trafficking cartel
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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Colombian national police recovered close to $50 million in U.S. currency as well as other money during three raids in the past week on houses used to stash drug proceeds, a U.S. official told CNN on Wednesday.
It is thought to be the most money ever seized by a law enforcement agency in the world, said the official, who requested anonymity due to the sensitive nature of the investigation.
The raids were conducted following a tip from a source working with the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration, the official told CNN. The DEA then provided information to the Colombian National Police.
The first of the raids -- all of which were conducted in the Cali area -- took place Friday, and $13 million and more than €2 million was seized. The cash was in a false cabinet and wall that led to a hidden room. Another cash seizure took place Tuesday, when police recovered $16 million to $18 million.
Separately, another house was searched on Wednesday and a large quantity of gold was found. Officials said a wall had to be destroyed to get to the gold.
DEA agents accompanied Colombian police on the raids, the DEA official said.
The money and gold likely belonged to a member of the Norte Valle Cartel, which dominates the cocaine trade in Colombia, the official told CNN.[/QUOTE]
But at the same time, aren't we their best customers?
[QUOTE=Col Bog 1]I arrived there at 10pm.
There’s an other club next door to the right (didn’t get in).
The place had 15-20 girls, nothing special to my taste, but I saw a couple of doable.
The guy proposed me a beer but as I never drink any alcohol or soda, he had nothing for me! Not even a bottle of water!
But I sat and girls came to present themselves.
I had seen a tall white skinny girl, but she came last, and didn’t seemed to be very interested, so I choose a very skinny “morenita” : Jamie.
Prices are 30K for 20 minutes, 45K for 30 minutes and 60K for an hour.
Condom and room are paid by the girl.
The room is a little bit scrappy but major problem is no Fan, so temperature got high and I got sweat.
I started with my favourite oral exploration and she didn’t say no when I teased her ass.
This is not so common here.
Her oral technique was poor and she was not very please to suck me uncovered.
So I left her cover me but with the condom I can hardly feel something if the girl is not very good, wish was not the case.
So, I started with classical positions, and after a while I decided to make my way to the tiny ass.
She helped me to get in !!! And she remained ok all the (long) way (10 minutes ?).
But I was exhausted and was not able to come.
So she gave me a very short massage because the game was over and the girl outside had stroke at our door twice already.
So, if you like skinny “Morenita” and if anal is something you like, Jamie is to be your girl.
Her Cell number is : 311 392 42 03
Enjoy.[/QUOTE]
great report
I was thinking about going to Cali in March. I speak minimal spanish, but enough to get around. I went to CTG and found it supprisingly safe. I thought that i would check out cali since i heard that the prettiest women are there. Can anyone advise on Hotels / plans of action to be safe.
Thanks
Cartagena is very safe, Cali is not as safe, but that shouldn't stop you visiting though.
Just be more carefull about security related things in general than you would be in Ctg.
grow eyes in the back of your head, stay North of the river and keep your guard up in avenida sexta also. Hunter is correct when stating that it is not CTG, but that your should not visit Cali because of this concern. A lot of fine women. Just be smart.
the best casas are actually South of the river FAR from the gringo areas (Hotel IC and Avenida Sexta). I have been to Cali more than 10 times without incident.
Using big city common sense, and speaking at least passable Spanish, are important. Nowhere is completely safe, not even the Laguito district of Cartagena where most tourists stay (outside the tourist cocoon Cartagena is just as dangerous as any other Colombian city-go walk around the Pleyboy Club in El Bosque at night to see what I mean).
Some pepople get lulled into a false sense of security if they only have visited Cartagena.Go to el bosque as Surfer points out and you will see another side of the place,it definetley is not Laguito!
[QUOTE=Hoya Boy]I was thinking about going to Cali in March. I speak minimal spanish, but enough to get around. I went to CTG and found it supprisingly safe. I thought that i would check out cali since i heard that the prettiest women are there. Can anyone advise on Hotels / plans of action to be safe.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Don't worry about a thing. I spent about 5 weeks there about 6 months ago and never felt safer. There are police officers on every corner. I stayed with some friends in a supposedly "unsafe" area, but I just noticed that the only difference was that it was better secured than other areas. I only had one problem-that turned out to be an incident that made me feel even safer there. Some guy started follwing me, asking where I was going, what I wanted, etc. He was starting to annoy me, so I just started kicking his ass. A police officer ran over, and I just said he was bothering me, so the cop told him to get out of there. I found the people in Cali to be more friendly than anywhere else I've been in the world. I even did a lot of mongering and had no problems. I noticed that in Colombia the Cab drivers don't lurk around after they drop you off at the Strip Joints like they do in Mexico. And, all the Cabs that I was in had a metered rate, as opposed to the Haggle thing that you always have to do in other countries. Hope this info helps, and have a good trip.
[QUOTE=Skug37]Don't worry about a thing. I spent about 5 weeks there about 6 months ago and never felt safer. There are police officers on every corner. I stayed with some friends in a supposedly "unsafe" area, but I just noticed that the only difference was that it was better secured than other areas. I only had one problem-that turned out to be an incident that made me feel even safer there. Some guy started follwing me, asking where I was going, what I wanted, etc. He was starting to annoy me, so I just started kicking his ass. A police officer ran over, and I just said he was bothering me, so the cop told him to get out of there. I found the people in Cali to be more friendly than anywhere else I've been in the world. I even did a lot of mongering and had no problems. I noticed that in Colombia the Cab drivers don't lurk around after they drop you off at the Strip Joints like they do in Mexico. And, all the Cabs that I was in had a metered rate, as opposed to the Haggle thing that you always have to do in other countries. Hope this info helps, and have a good trip.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, having strange guys follow you, sounds awful safe. lol. There is somewhat of a police presence on the Sexta or Chipe Chape area, but besides that, i could go for miles and never see one cop, or where my girlfriend lives in DECEPAZ, the taxis do not like to go there at night due to the fact that there is road construction and they need to drive through it at a snails pace and feer robery, ALSO they robbed my novia for her cell in a supposively "NICE" area. right behind Hotel Intercontinental in front of our apartment. Imagine that, gonna take someones life for a cellphone? This guy is giving you a false sense of security, you need to have street smarts wherever you go in Cali, from the "nice" areas to the "not so nice", areas. Dont beleive the hype.
Skug37 ... PLeeeeeeze.
Don't tell a guy not to worry in Cali.
Of course it's not a war zone or anything, but just the mere fact that some dude was following you should tell you somethng.
It's common, and I don't recommend just kicking someone's ass as you say, many guys are armed and trying to kick their ass might just [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] the wrong guy off.
One minute you feel safe and cozy and then it can hit you. You just never know, especialy for a new guy, unfamiliar, lack of Spanish skills, etc.
Go to Cali, have fun, but definitely take good precautions.
Be smart y Suerte!
Went by ESCOCES the other night in Cali ... the place near the Intercontinental ... it was a Saturday night.
I have to say the quality has gone down hill since my last visit there a couple months ago. Out of the 20 or so chicas I saw, none of them got my attention. Maybe 1 or 2 were OK ... the rest gorditas :)
Just a quick report .... Suerte!
Is Cali even good hunting ground for non-pros?
I all the girls there are players
Its a good place however if you are an expat or live there as you can keep an eye on the girls.
Other than that BAQ is better.
all you guys whom I am conspiring with to mislead people into believing Colombia as a whole, and Cali, in particular, is dangerous should stop it. The gig is up and we have been exposed.
Skug spent 5 weeks there and survived (though he did have to kick ass on some Colombiano who followed him on the Sexta) and that proves it. All those statitics about having the highest murder rate in the World are all concocted to keep the kooks at home. Colombia, South America's Singapore.
TOP TEN COUNTRIES FOR HOMICIDE, 2003
COUNTRY
PER 100,000
(1) Colombia 63
(2) South Africa 51
(3) Jamaica 32
(4) Venezuela 32
(5) Russia 19
(6) Mexico 13
(7) Lithuania 10
(8) Estonia 10
(9) Latvia 10
(10) Belarus 9
[url]http://www.benbest.com/lifeext/murder.html#world[/url]
The Colombian National Police crime report from 2006 shows enough of a drop by 2005 to be passed by South Africa (for 2005 "only" 40 out of every 100,000 Colombians were murdered) and move down to the #2 spot! Look out Jamaica and Venezuela! Heck the murder rate in Colombia nowadays is barely 3 times that of that very safe country on our own border, Mexico!
[url]http://www.nationmaster.com/static/cccr2005.pdf[/url]
Venezuela will pass Colombia as pocked marked ass face gets more power and the middle class what is left gets mugged and murdered by the thugs in caracas that are loyal to this piece of shit. The upper class will all be gone soon, if they are smart...
But yes, in cali, one must use precautions at all times, as in most of latin america. San Jose CR, is in many ways much worse....
Cali only has more homicides than Canada anually. That statistic should talk by itself.
I lived in Cali for more than 3 years, and I can tell you right away, your life is not worth much there.
In anomity, you need to walk with confidence as if you know where you're going (that always work). Masterning the language, walking with confidence and being dressed as a local (not too many gringos succeed with that) and having a latin-like physical features will work in your favor.
But then, as you blend in for some time in Colombia, Colombians start treating you as one of them. That means: bullying, menaces, etc... And that is not the exception, it's the rule.
So, you may have it good for some time, but I don't think there is any good there on the long-run. It's so sad. Colombia is made of Colombians and they have that cultural background that they believe they can blame for their behavior.
Freeze
On exil from Colombia and its own 2 kids because of violence in Colombia
Does anyone know if the Four Points Sheraton Cali.
Calle 18 Norte Numero 4 is anywhere near La Sexta? I can't find a decent map online and I forgot to buy one last time I was in Cali. It costs $56/night and they have free airport pick up and drop off.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Does anyone know if the Four Points Sheraton Cali.
Calle 18 Norte Numero 4 is anywhere near La Sexta? I can't find a decent map online and I forgot to buy one last time I was in Cali. It costs $56/night and they have free airport pick up and drop off.[/QUOTE]Great Hotel! You are about 3 blocks from Sexta.
Have fun and enjoy.
Yes, extremely close to la sexta. PM kdog about it, he stays there a lot and will be able to talk to you about it. I think that this hotel is not girl-friendly though (they charge you for each one).
Freeze
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Does anyone know if the Four Points Sheraton Cali.
Calle 18 Norte Numero 4 is anywhere near La Sexta? I can't find a decent map online and I forgot to buy one last time I was in Cali. It costs $56/night and they have free airport pick up and drop off.[/QUOTE]
Sheraton is good location and nice hotel BUT they charge about $20 for EACH visitor (even if ST only) according to Kdog. I have stayed at 4 points in Medellin, also a GREAT location adjacent to Oviedo Mall, but had a GF the whole time so I cannot speak to guest charges there. Hotel Don Jaime never USED to pull that stunt but now they do.
[QUOTE=Surfer]Sheraton is good location and nice hotel BUT they charge about $20 for EACH visitor (even if ST only) according to Kdog. I have stayed at 4 points in Medellin, also a GREAT location adjacent to Oviedo Mall, but had a GF the whole time so I cannot speak to guest charges there. Hotel Don Jaime never USED to pull that stunt but now they do.[/QUOTE]
Gents,
Just as an addem to Surfer's note about Don Jaime. I was passing in front of the hotel Don Jaime on Sexta (between calle 15th and 16th) 2 weeks ago then decided to ask if they imposed a guest fee for visitors. I was told that there is no fee if the visitor is in and out anytime before 10pm. After 10pm it is a $32,000 cop guest fee.
Cheers,
Cubanut
I'll be heading to Cali shortly for about a week. I've been searching this forum to get the names of some recommended places to stay. I'd prefer a weekly-rental apartment. Or any "Chica-friendly" hotels ($20.00/night for an extra "guest" is fine).
Any recommendations?
suggestions as to accomodations?
I'd prefer to alquiler, a lo colombiano, but I guess it'd be difficult to do that unless it's a longer term lease.
any good gyms in the city? and what would be a good part of town to live in (away from gringos please, by good I mean close to action, do not want upper class, middle class area is perfect)
any other ideas/suggestions you can pass along?
you can always pm me or email me.
[QUOTE=Stannyj]I'll be heading to Cali shortly for about a week. I've been searching this forum to get the names of some recommended places to stay. I'd prefer a weekly-rental apartment. Or any "Chica-friendly" hotels ($20.00/night for an extra "guest" is fine).
Any recommendations?[/QUOTE]
Stannyj,
I rented an apartment on Ave 8 norte #10-98 at $140,000 cop a day. However I came across the Cali Plaza Hotel and feel it is a good if not great place to be based out of.
The Cali Plaza is owned by an American named Claude from Tennesse. Great guy and very hospitable. The hotel rooms ad apartments are excellent and a good value. The hotel is just three doors off the corner of Ave Sexta and calle 15 The corner of the Viejo Barrill #1). There is an ATM directly across the street as well.
You could not ask to be any closer to the party area of Sexta.
The restaurant at the Cali Plaza is modern clean and serves real good food from burgers to spaghetti to Oriental chicken and chili as well. All recipes brought in by Claude. Very tasty meals and great shakes. They also have a good selection of beer. Big screen TV inside and a smaller LCD in the outdoor area for sporting events also The restaurant is open til 10pm but open til 1am on the weekends.
The big plus is the Cali Plaza does not charge any guest fee. This alone adds to the value.
Claude also offers free Wi Fi service and free use of a cellular pre paid card phone to all guests.
I will come right out and say this is what the future Cali Mansion that Robert is establishing soon should aspire to be.
The hotel rooms start (in usd $ including tax) at $60.50 single bedroom per night and the single bedroom apartments are $88 and there is a three bedroom apartment at $154 per night. I believe one of the rooms in the 3 bedroom apartment did not have air conditioning but I think all the single rooms do. All the rooms and apartments are beautifully decorated with modern LCD televisions and refrigerators. The rooms/apartments facing Calle 15 have cute mini balconies as well. All rooms/apartments have electronic safes.
A 24 guard is on duty and although they don't wash clothes on premise they will send out/return clothes at cost with no added service fee.
Claude is very attentitive to emails so making a reservation is easy. I plan om using this hotel on my next visit to Cali.
BTW- Unlike the future Cali Mansion, the Cali Plaza does not offer naughty tours or guides to monger places or airport pickups or drop offs. So read up on Cali here on ISG before going if you are a newbie.
Pics and contact info Cali Plaza can be found at www(dot)caliplaza(dot)com
Cheers,
Cubanut
ST visitors often do not incur the charge at Don Jaime even if they leave later than 10 but one of the great things about Cali is the availability and cost of LT and it irks me. They only started pulling that guest fee garbage about a year and a half ago.
CaliPlaza's biggest drawback is NOISE (to his credit, Claude is very honest about this). And not just at night from the Carrill nightclub across the street, but also from traffic on the Sexta starting early in the morning.
It is VERY well furnished with flat screen TVs and fixtures befitting a 4 star hotel. Decoration is lovely and the location unbeatable (as long as you like LOTS of noise, which I don't as I am a light sleeper).
Catire: I am emailing you Freeze's email.
Will anyone be in Cali on Saturday Feb 17? It's been a few years since I have been to Cali and I have a stopover there on my way to Barranquillla. I get there around 8: 40pm and I am leaving in the morning so not much time. But if anyone wants to hit the town, let me know. Not sure where I am going to stay yet. Possibly Pension Stein by the Intercontinental. I enjoyed it there last time I was in Cali. I had someone refer me to a hostal there as well. Hostal santa rita. Anyone know anything about it? That could be a good choice as it's probably just a place to hold the luggage till my morning flight out. Since I probably won't sleep anyways. Of course if anyone knows of any decent apartments in a central part of town, let me know as that wouldnt be so bad either if I do decide to get some shuteye.
[QUOTE=Winner71]Will anyone be in Cali on Saturday Feb 17? It's been a few years since I have been to Cali and I have a stopover there on my way to Barranquillla. I get there around 8: 40pm and I am leaving in the morning so not much time. But if anyone wants to hit the town, let me know. Not sure where I am going to stay yet. Possibly Pension Stein by the Intercontinental. I enjoyed it there last time I was in Cali. I had someone refer me to a hostal there as well. Hostal santa rita. Anyone know anything about it? That could be a good choice as it's probably just a place to hold the luggage till my morning flight out. Since I probably won't sleep anyways. Of course if anyone knows of any decent apartments in a central part of town, let me know as that wouldnt be so bad either if I do decide to get some shuteye.[/QUOTE]
Winner71,
If you wil be staying near the Intercontinental, I think your best use of time is to go to Escoces. It's just down the block from there (around the corner from the Dann Carlton.
The girls are friendly and very pretty. Sure it's a little more pricey than let's say the cheap casas but definately not as expensive as Frescades Flores (who's girls have real shitty attitudes these days).
The fact that all the girls are in lingerie instead of clothes also gives you a heads up as to the body as well.
If you can wait til closing (2am) you can negotiate a price with the girl outside of paying the bar fine. However if you have an early flight then pay the barfine and leave rather than wasting time sitting around drinking and dancing. Plenty more time to dance in your own bed, I always say.
Cheers,
Cubanut
Hey Cubanut,
Thanks for the tip. This is actually perfect as I really was thinking to myself that opposed to going and hitting the discos or mongering as I have a gal and I'm pretty faithful, what I;d really like is a place to just got sit and enjoy my time watching some hot chicas dance. I'll probably have a ball there, assuming they are cool with me just drinking and enjoying the scenario. And you say it's close to Intercontinental so it must be close to Pension Stein as I walked to Interrcontinental last time.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Cubanut]Winner71,
If you wil be staying near the Intercontinental, I think your best use of time is to go to Escoces. It's just down the block from there (around the corner from the Dann Carlton.
The girls are friendly and very pretty. Sure it's a little more pricey than let's say the cheap casas but definately not as expensive as Frescades Flores (who's girls have real shitty attitudes these days).
The fact that all the girls are in lingerie instead of clothes also gives you a heads up as to the body as well.
If you can wait til closing (2am) you can negotiate a price with the girl outside of paying the bar fine. However if you have an early flight then pay the barfine and leave rather than wasting time sitting around drinking and dancing. Plenty more time to dance in your own bed, I always say.
Cheers,
Cubanut[/QUOTE]
Ah.. Cubanut. Not that I'm frugal, but could you kindly give me an idea on prices at Escoces? Like I said, this sounds perfect and is really right down my alley for what I was looking for. So I'm there regardless of the prices since you recommend it. But, I'd also prefer not to pay the gringo tax and since I'll be alone and havent been to Cali in years, any info you might have so I'll know if Im being taken behind the woodshed would be fantastic.
[QUOTE=Cubanut]Winner71,
If you wil be staying near the Intercontinental, I think your best use of time is to go to Escoces. It's just down the block from there (around the corner from the Dann Carlton.
The girls are friendly and very pretty. Sure it's a little more pricey than let's say the cheap casas but definately not as expensive as Frescades Flores (who's girls have real shitty attitudes these days).
The fact that all the girls are in lingerie instead of clothes also gives you a heads up as to the body as well.
If you can wait til closing (2am) you can negotiate a price with the girl outside of paying the bar fine. However if you have an early flight then pay the barfine and leave rather than wasting time sitting around drinking and dancing. Plenty more time to dance in your own bed, I always say.
Cheers,
Cubanut[/QUOTE]
Kinda wierd.. I first posted this post and it didnt get posted...
Hey Cubanut,
Thanks for the tip. This is actually perfect as I really was thinking to myself that opposed to going and hitting the discos or mongering as I have a gal and I'm pretty faithful, what I;d really like is a place to just got sit and enjoy my time watching some hot chicas dance. I'll probably have a ball there, assuming they are cool with me just drinking and enjoying the scenario. And you say it's close to Intercontinental so it must be close to Pension Stein as I walked to Interrcontinental last time.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Cubanut]Winner71,
If you wil be staying near the Intercontinental, I think your best use of time is to go to Escoces. It's just down the block from there (around the corner from the Dann Carlton.
The girls are friendly and very pretty. Sure it's a little more pricey than let's say the cheap casas but definately not as expensive as Frescades Flores (who's girls have real shitty attitudes these days).
The fact that all the girls are in lingerie instead of clothes also gives you a heads up as to the body as well.
If you can wait til closing (2am) you can negotiate a price with the girl outside of paying the bar fine. However if you have an early flight then pay the barfine and leave rather than wasting time sitting around drinking and dancing. Plenty more time to dance in your own bed, I always say.
Cheers,
Cubanut[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Cubanut]Winner71,
If you wil be staying near the Intercontinental, I think your best use of time is to go to Escoces. It's just down the block from there (around the corner from the Dann Carlton.
The girls are friendly and very pretty. Sure it's a little more pricey than let's say the cheap casas but definately not as expensive as Frescades Flores (who's girls have real shitty attitudes these days).
The fact that all the girls are in lingerie instead of clothes also gives you a heads up as to the body as well.
If you can wait til closing (2am) you can negotiate a price with the girl outside of paying the bar fine. However if you have an early flight then pay the barfine and leave rather than wasting time sitting around drinking and dancing. Plenty more time to dance in your own bed, I always say.
Cubanut[/QUOTE]
Cheers,
Thanks for that. It has been two years since I have been to Colombia. How much will I have to pay for the bar fine plus the girls tip there these days?
Cheers
WINNER wrote:
what I;d really like is a place to just got sit and enjoy my time watching some hot chicas dance.
There is only one real choice then, the salsatecas in Juanchito which is considered the "cradle of salsa" Worldwide. A bit of background:
Research Article
Record grooves and salsa dance moves: the viejoteca phenomenon in Cali, Colombia
LISE WAXER
Abstract
Disfrutar recordando tiempos de ayer al compás de música aprendida a fuerza de bailarla. Revivir la emoción de aquellos Momentos involvidables y sentir que somos los mismos . . .
To enjoy while remembering moments of yesteryear to the rhythm of music learned by force of dancing to it. To live again the emotion of those unforgettable moments and feel that we are the same . . .
Slogan on a poster for Changó Viejoteca, 1995
In the southwest Colombian metropolis of Cali, recorded music has come to exert an unusually strong force on local popular culture in this century. Not only did recordings play a key role in establishing Cuban music, and later, salsa, as the principal musical style of the city, they also became the basis for the record-centred dance scene that predominated in Cali during the 1940s through to the 1970s, and continued to be important as the live scene flourished during the 1980s and 1990s. The centrality of recorded music for Caleños (the inhabitants of Cali) challenges the privileging, in most scholarly work, of live performance as more ‘real’ or ‘authentic’ than its mediated versions. Indeed, for many decades, ‘playing music’ in Cali literally meant putting on a record, as a source of music for other social and expressive activities. The term disco (literally, record disc) still exists as a local synonym for ‘song’, even when it is a live rendition of a song, e.g. ‘vamos a tocar ese disco’ (let's perform that song).
That's where I was going to go last time I was there 3 years ago... but got sidetracked with a hot little chica and I told her to make the itinerary... and we didn't end up in Juanchito. I'd say I'd try it this time, but do you think it's a good idea since I'll be getting into airport at 8:40... then customs and Immigration, then a cab to area around Intercontinental Hotel area.. thus it's now what 11pm.. then I have to be back at the airport by 5am for my 6am flight. Is Juanchito a good idea still? What about Escoces? I was getting pretty hyped about going to a bar in Cali with chicas walking around in Lingerie. I guess what I'd really like is kind of like a "Treasures", "The Men's Club" or "Ricks" of Houston.. type of atmosphere.. but in Colombia. I.e. Eye candy all over, chicas to chitchat with and drink. Ultimately I have to get on a plane at 6am and arrive to my girlfriend at the airport in BArranquilla at 10am.. so I'd rather not have that face of.. I just got shitfaced last night in Cali.
Thoughts?
[QUOTE=Surfer]WINNER wrote:
what I;d really like is a place to just got sit and enjoy my time watching some hot chicas dance.
There is only one real choice then, the salsatecas in Juanchito which is considered the "cradle of salsa" Worldwide. A bit of background:
Research Article
Record grooves and salsa dance moves: the viejoteca phenomenon in Cali, Colombia
LISE WAXER
Abstract
Disfrutar recordando tiempos de ayer al compás de música aprendida a fuerza de bailarla. Revivir la emoción de aquellos Momentos involvidables y sentir que somos los mismos . . .
To enjoy while remembering moments of yesteryear to the rhythm of music learned by force of dancing to it. To live again the emotion of those unforgettable moments and feel that we are the same . . .
Slogan on a poster for Changó Viejoteca, 1995
In the southwest Colombian metropolis of Cali, recorded music has come to exert an unusually strong force on local popular culture in this century. Not only did recordings play a key role in establishing Cuban music, and later, salsa, as the principal musical style of the city, they also became the basis for the record-centred dance scene that predominated in Cali during the 1940s through to the 1970s, and continued to be important as the live scene flourished during the 1980s and 1990s. The centrality of recorded music for Caleños (the inhabitants of Cali) challenges the privileging, in most scholarly work, of live performance as more ‘real’ or ‘authentic’ than its mediated versions. Indeed, for many decades, ‘playing music’ in Cali literally meant putting on a record, as a source of music for other social and expressive activities. The term disco (literally, record disc) still exists as a local synonym for ‘song’, even when it is a live rendition of a song, e.g. ‘vamos a tocar ese disco’ (let's perform that song).[/QUOTE]
embarrassed to say I never made it up there either despite the best intentions LOL
It does not get going until 11pm so arriving about midnight would be perfect. The question is whether you can stay up all night with no sleep and still be bright eyed and bushytailed when you arrive in BAQ. I know I couldn't but you are younger I think LOL
These are regular dance clubs though, not strip joints like Treasures.
That is the big issue... still be bright-eyed and bushytailed when I arrive in Barranquilla and last through thewhole day and night of Carnivales after pretty much no sleep as you can see on Saturday night after not a whole lot of sleep on Friday night etiher (I have an early engagement on Saturday morning before my flight). Thus I'll have to take it easy... and won;t be in the mood for a long cab ride to Juanchito... a few hours there to do what? Meet someone and then what? No time. Thus I thought Escoces would be the better option. But now you have me thinking... is Escoces a dance club? I thought it would be some sort of topless bar (chicas fluttering around in lingerie) as sopposed to a dance club or a casa (type where you go in a room and they line up and you choose). Don't get me wrong.. I absolutely love hitting the discos, but I'll be just too tired and won't be able to make it through the night and still be fresh and ready to go in the am. So, is Escoces a disco also? Is Escoces where you mention you've never had a chance to make it up there? By the words.. up there.. I would assume Juanchito. Fill me in. Heck it's almost making me wonder if I should make my flgiht back have a few days stopover in Cali, as Iver really never had the chance to go at it solo in Cali. If I did, it;d have to be during the week though... I.e. Wed and Thurs night type of deal. Ricker, maybe you can chime in... is Cali a thumbs up or thumbs down during the week?
[QUOTE=Surfer]embarrassed to say I never made it up there either despite the best intentions LOL
It does not get going until 11pm so arriving about midnight would be perfect. The question is whether you can stay up all night with no sleep and still be bright eyed and bushytailed when you arrive in BAQ. I know I couldn't but you are younger I think LOL
These are regular dance clubs though, not strip joints like Treasures.[/QUOTE]
El Escoces is probably your best choice. It is the second most upscale place after Flores Frescas.
I would not recommend FF, too expensive for what it is, and not very good vibes.
The discotecas / salsa places in Cali all look the same after a while, Juanchito or no. They have the same layout (circular dancefloor in the middle, surrounded on all sides by sofas grouped around tables). And same music mix too.
I would recommend just going to Escoces. You would be wasting your time going to one of those salsa places without a fun group, or at least a date for the evening.
Very good... so is Escoces a topless bar type of venue?
[QUOTE=Cachorro]El Escoces is probably your best choice. It is the second most upscale place after Flores Frescas.
I would not recommend FF, too expensive for what it is, and not very good vibes.
The discotecas / salsa places in Cali all look the same after a while, Juanchito or no. They have the same layout (circular dancefloor in the middle, surrounded on all sides by sofas grouped around tables). And same music mix too.
I would recommend just going to Escoces. You would be wasting your time going to one of those salsa places without a fun group, or at least a date for the evening.[/QUOTE]
Winner71,
You're dancing all over the place now. You first said you only wanted to hit the town. Then you wanted to check out some hot chicks dancing. Then you said you're faithful to your girl. Then you said you want to sit abd drink with the girls. And now you are asking if Cali is worth checking out a couple of days?
Well my friend you can do it all and enjoy it all but ultimately it's all up to you to decide on a path to follow.
I still say if it is just an overnight layover you are looking at then hit Escoces. It is a small but comfortable dance club just around the corner from the Dann Carlton. It will be happening at 11pm when you enter, No cover and the set up is small half circle seating and like I said, the girls are in Lingerie. I was there twice during the week and both times the girls were fun and energetic. THEY LOVE A GOOD DANCER as well. My buddy must have danced with 7 of the girls when I first went. They loved his moves. We bought a short bottle of rum for $70,000 and it came with cola and ice and sliced limes. The girls are not guzzlers because they make no extra money from the drinks which is cool. They girls were very friendly and talkative. Of course they made the rounds with other customers but often were dancing in pairs because they keep the music flowing. The cost for a girl as take out is $150,000 cop in house for an hour and $250,000 cop for take out. Howevevr when the place cleses, many of the girls are ready to go for around $100,000 cop back to your place for a couple of hours.
Some of the girls are VERY HOT and I guarantee you that non will be ugly because the good looks standards of Escoces apparently keeps out the mediocre chicas. Sorry but it is not a strip club or topless club. Also remember that this is Cali so the girls are darker here than let's say Medellin but since your girl is from Baranqulla I imagine you like the darker sort anyway.
Now if you are staying a few nights then the door opens wide open for play but then again you say you are faithful to your girl so I will refrain from expanding on this for now.
This girl wasn't the hottest girl in Escoces when I was last there but she was very personable and friendly. I forget her name however.
Cheers,
Cubanut
[QUOTE=Cubanut]Winner71,
I still say if it is just an overnight layover you are looking at then hit Escoces ... ... The cost for a girl as take out is $150,000 cop in house for an hour and $250,000 cop for take out. Howevevr when the place cleses, many of the girls are ready to go for around $100,000 cop back to your place for a couple of hours ...
Cubanut[/QUOTE]
Actually, the price in Escoces is 40,000 pesos to the house, in-house or takeout. Of course you have to negotiate with the chica for her take, and that depends on the usual ... negotiating skill, chemestry, etc.
I've gotten friends service, in house for 100,000 total, I've never done in-house myself.
I've taken out chicas and paid a total of 150,000 for all night, including the bar fine.
I stopped by Escoces not too long ago ... a couple weeks I believe ... quality was lower than I've seen. Hopefully it'll improve. :)
Suerte!
Cubanut,
Thanks for the intel, I greatly appreciate it. It's guys like you who help us "newbies" aspire to become "Senior" members.
[QUOTE=Ricker]Actually, the price in Escoces is 40,000 pesos to the house, in-house or takeout. Of course you have to negotiate with the chica for her take, and that depends on the usual ... negotiating skill, chemestry, etc.
I've gotten friends service, in house for 100,000 total, I've never done in-house myself.
I've taken out chicas and paid a total of 150,000 for all night, including the bar fine.
I stopped by Escoces not too long ago ... a couple weeks I believe ... quality was lower than I've seen. Hopefully it'll improve. :)
Suerte![/QUOTE]
Like you said the girls do the negotiating. On this particular night there was alot of bling bling gringos that apparently walked over from IC or the Dann so the girls were talking larger dollars than usual. I just wanted folks to see the high side of things. As usual though after hours, or outside of the work place prices drop. That's why I prefer to get a girls number or set up a next day afternoon toss about. It always works to my advantage.
Cheers,
Cubanut
Very good point. I guess I should have said, Id love to drink, dance, relax, chit-chat with some Calenas and all the better if they are in Lingerie, but I dont plan on doing the deed with any of them . Why would I go... oh, because I'd like to see how Calenas compare to Barranquilleras.. both in looks, personality, attitude... granted that may not be a fair comparison given that it's working girls of Cali. But it should be interesting and sure, who didnt enjoy a little temptation. Maybe I'll find out I'm not really ready to settle down. I wouldnt be unfaithful, but if the urge was really really great, I would explain my desires to my chica and see what happens from there. Thus... I should have explained that better... curiosity and temptation. But when I said hit the town... I was kind of thinking just a disco and some friendly conversation. But I do like the Escoces idea better. Need to get the past the curiosity stage wondering what Calenas are really like. I've been to Cali, but I was hitched and set up with a chica before I got there so I didnt really get any feel for what meeting a Calena is all about. That's what I'm up for, does that make more sense now? I didnt think so. Your recommendation of Escoces is great. thanks again
[QUOTE=Cubanut]Winner71,
You're dancing all over the place now. You first said you only wanted to hit the town. Then you wanted to check out some hot chicks dancing. Then you said you're faithful to your girl. Then you said you want to sit abd drink with the girls. And now you are asking if Cali is worth checking out a couple of days?
Well my friend you can do it all and enjoy it all but ultimately it's all up to you to decide on a path to follow.
OF COURSE IT DEPENDS CUBA .... :)
That's why I said the chica negotiates the price ... therefore it would DEPEND on negotiation skills, whether you negotiate for in-house, out, or next day.
Of course if you're there when a bunch of morons show up with pesos flowing out of their pockets, the chicas will want more pesos in their pockets.
Unless you're really cool like me .... hahaha .... :)
Take care amigo ....
Well I just got back from my Colombia trip and boy was it awsome. I used my brother—in laws business. One night we had in the penthouse 5 guys and 20 girls each one of them was at least an 8. For those of you mongers who are sleeping on Cali you need to go I’ll post more pics later.
[QUOTE=Charkboy]Well I just got back from my Colombia trip and boy was it awsome. I used my brother—in laws business. One night we had in the penthouse 5 guys and 20 girls each one of them was at least an 8. For those of you mongers who are sleeping on Cali you need to go I’ll post more pics later.[/QUOTE]Jesus Christ man where did you find them?
Continued from my Bogota Trip report.
Got into CLO at 2pm. I took a colectivo into the bus “Terminal.” It cost me somewhere between 2700k and 3500k (I’m sorry I don’t exactly remember, but it is posted inside the colectivo). FYI, a taxi into center of Cali will be about 30k-35k COP. This van is very old and looks like it will fall apart any minute. All the large luggage is placed/stacked on the roof of the van and strapped down. I was definitely scared that my luggage (and everyone else’s) will fall off, but I figure they do this everyday, so I just decided to be ignorant. We get to the terminal in about 30 minutes or so.
I then get in the line to get an official taxi. Just like any bus station around the world, there are sketchy looking characters just sitting around, but I wasn’t harassassed. At the taquilla, I told them the name of hotel and the address (Apartahotel del Rio, Av2N and Calle 21). The lady gave me a little ticket the price printed at the bottom. She said that I had to give her 300 COP and then I had to pay the driver 3100 COP upon arrival. I didn’t really bother asking her why I had to pay the 300 COP (didn’t have to do this at Bogota Airport), but I just wanted to get going and 300 COP is less than $0.15. I give the ticket to the guy flagging down the taxis and he scribbled/wrote the license plate number on the back of the ticket with a pencil (I don’t know how that was supposed to help me if I get kidnapped/ripped off) as he didn’t keep a record of it for himself. Oh well.
The driver brings me to the place which is a very short distance from the terminal (probably 1-2 minutes if there were no traffic; apparently 3100 COP is the minimum fare for taxis in Cali). I check into Apartahotel del Rio – [url]www.apartahoteldelrio.com[/url] Av2N No. 21N-05.
The 2 person price for a Habitacion Sencilla – 96.000, Habitacion Junior – 110.000, Junior Suite - 130.000. I opted for the Habitacion Junior for one person which costed me 98.000 COP a night. I do want to say that they do respond to their email for reservation, but it is NOT reliable (sometimes they respond, sometimes they don’t). It is easier to just call.
The Habitaction Junior was huge. I got placed on the top floor (11) in a corner room. The top floor was a pain in the ass, as the elevators go only up to 10, and you have to take the stairs to get to 11. The room had a queen sized bed, living area, refrigerator, reasonable bathroom, corner balcony, and a walk-in closet! I don’t think the room gets used very often as 4 of 7 lighting fixtures weren’t working when I arrived (didn’t notice until the evening). In the morning the second day, I told the cleaning lady that and they did have it all fixed (lights bulbs needed changing) by the time I got back. Another gripe is that the room is fairly big that the 19” tv placed on the other side of the room is not really viewable from the bed.
Breakfast is included (you go to the restaurant downstairs and select one of choices from the menu). Internet IS NOT included (they said it was 100 COP a minute or 3500 COP an hour) – they write the times down on a piece of paper and it isn’t very accurate. I don’t recommend using their internet unless YOU HAVE TO. I had to argue the bill upon leaving because they started charging me random prices. They had one paper saying that I used it for 1.5 hours and the times were written down. They had another paper on the same day just saying that I used the internet for an additional two hours. I asked them what specific time did I use it because I didn’t use the internet for 3.5 hours in a single day. They called some lady and they dropped the down to an additional 1 hour. Then they had a paper saying that they were going to charge me 16500 COP for the internet and the papers I printed. I argued with them about that, too, saying that I didn’t print anything and that this must be a mistake. They eventually dropped the 16500 COP charge. Bottom line, don’t use their internet unless you have to.
Also upon leaving they try to charge me for a water from the mini-bar. I told them that I didn’t use the minibar and that I had this 5 L jug of bottle water in the room (which about 3L left). Why would I drink their? They dropped that charge, too.
Overall, I liked Apartahotel del Rio and would stay here again. I liked it for its PROXIMITY to the casas, and I felt safe in the hotel (nothing was stolen, including my laptop). Also, the reception girls are nice and pretty (one of them was really pretty). The walk (7 blocks) up to Av. Sexta can be sketchy after dark, so that probably wasn’t the smartest thing that I did. Next time, I would likely just take a Habitacion Sencilla, if I were traveling solo.
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Okay, onward to the casas. Many of them are congregated to the area east of Apartahotel del Rio (2-4 block walk). During this trip, I visited only two (Calle 23AN 2N-95, and Clinica de Del Doctor Amor), but as one can see from the Cali List, there are many.
The first one I went to was this one on the list.
"Calle 23AN 2N-95. Near Torre de Cali. Every day from 10am till 8pm. Prettiest chicas of all Casas. COP 35K for 30 mins., COP 45 60 mins. Ariana is recommended. Good service."
Address, prices are correct. I don't think they are open on Sunday, though. The near Torre de Cali part is misleading as Clinica del Doctor Amor is closer to Torre de Cali than this casa. Basically, Torre de Cali is on Av 2N, and as you walk east along the river/Avienda 2N, you’ll hit Apartahotel del Rio on Calle 21. As you keep walking east you’ll pass Clinical del Doctor Amor on Calle 23 (the northeast corner). The next block would be Called 23A, turn left onto it. The house is on the left hand side.
I walk in at about 2pm and the guy tells me to have a seat on one of the decrepit leather couches. He asks me if I wanted to have something to drink (I thinkthe prices would be 2k for a gaseosa and 3k for a beer), but I declined. He presented me with all the girls that are available. Again they come totally apathetic, shaking your hand and mumbling their names. Sometimes their mumble their names as they turned their face away about to leave. And the worst was when they’ll stroll in talking on their cell phones?!? I don’t understand how anyone would pick the cell phone girls?
He explained that basically I can choose any of the girls for 30 minutes (35k COP) or 60 minutes (45k COP). He explained that for 60 minutes I would get TWO relaciones (wow, I feel like I’m in Rio again). The selection wasn’t so great, but I picked this older (she turned out to be 30) girl named Juli/July with a rounder figure but a big butt. She was very nice and we got along very very well.
We into one of the rooms, and they are no more dirty/sketchy than the apartments in Buenos Aires. The man places two condoms and a towel on the bed. What I found interesting is that their windows are wide open (It is hot in Cali) and any noise from traffic on the street comes in and whatever noise we make goes out! Some of the rooms had fans.
Juli really took care of me. She gave me kisses on the lips and an unsolicited BBBJ for about 5 minutes or so, which was fairly good. Intercourse was of course covered and in multiple positions (Missionary, cowgirl and finishing in doggie). After my first orgasm, I cleaned myself off and we had fairly good small talk. She tells me that she has 2 sons and a sick mother who lives about 1-2 hours away by bus. She is here M-Sat (everyday the place is open) and goes home by bus on Saturday night and returns Monday afternoon. She says that she actually LIVES in the house, and that anyone who works here can, but the majority lives with their family or their apt in Cali. After I was ready again, I gave me a BBBJ until I was at full attention. I came in the cowgirl position the second time. I had a real great time with her, and I actually repeated with her 2 days later. We laid there chatting until the guy from downstairs told her it was time. And even then, she took her time getting dressed, etc.
I returned here the second day and the guy said that Juli was going to be occupied by a client for 2 HOURS? The guy presented me with all the girls, and I didn’t see any that stood out. I asked the guy if he could give any recommendations. He recommended to me two of the girls, of which I picked Ledi/Ledy from Barranquilla. I asked him if she was “muy Buena” while doing a hand motion as if you were going to refuse more cards in blackjack (and you do the hand motion twice; and this apparently in Colombia means to be good in bed). The guy nodded.
The girl had the typical tanned skin of a costeña. She was about 20 years old and was cute/energentic. The sex was better than average and her CBJ was with so much suction that I felt it was one of the better CBJ that I have ever received. Multiple positions afterwards, I came in doggie. We chatted and small talk was okay. When I was ready for the second pop, she brought up whether I would tip her. I said, only if you give me a BBBJ. She said how about 20.000? I actually didn’t even bring that much money (I only brought 55k, so that I’ll have 10k left for incidentals incase of emergency). I said that I only can give her 5k.
Anyways, we had our second relacion and it was pretty good too, with me coming in the cowgirl position. She immediately got off, went to shower, and put her clothes on (I think I was in the room for about 40 minutes). Upon leaving she asked for her tip. I unwillingly gave her the 5k (didn’t feel like arguing) since her performance wasn’t out of the ordinary.
Third day, I returned to visit Juli/July and she was indeed available. She gave me the treatment as the first. BBBJ, multiple positions, and taking her time. I came in cowgirl and the second time in reverse cowgirl. She is a real nice girl, never rushed and spent the entire hour with me until the guy calls for her.
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The second casa I visited was Clinica del Doctor Amor.
"Clínica del Doctor Amor / Dr Love. Every taxidriver know this place. Avenida 2N #23-XX. Everyday from 9am till 8pm. Price for one hour P$38,000 (US$17)."
The address is specifically Av 2N No. 23-23. The entrance is on the northeast corner of the Av 2N and Calle 23. You'll see a parking lot with entrance from Calle 23. Walk through the parking lot to get main entrance. There are guys standing outside the entrance. They are open from 10a-9pm M-Sat; Closed Sun. 28k for 1/2 hour, 38k for 1 hour; and there are some VIP girls that are apparently more with the 1 hour being 45k (I didn't hear how much for the 30 min).
I got there at 7pm, and there were about 10 guys sitting there already. One of the guys who worked there explained to me that they are their waiting for their friends or something that there are rooms/girls available. I was present with approximately 10-12 girls, none of which were the VIP girls because of availability. I picked Dianna, and she was beautiful. She was Caleña and 20 years old. Skinny, tight body and doesn’t have any children. She only has been working there for 2 months.
I picked her and a guy brought us to another section (VIP section?) and we chatted to discuss the details. I didn’t understand what there was to talk because I thought I had already chosen, but I apparently I can talk to her to see if I really like her or whatever. All she asked was that if I knew the prices and she stated that the BJ would be covered.
She took me to this ticket window where I slip the 38k under this board and a towel and 2 condoms was given to us. We went to a room and the sex was average, but she was so hot and innocent. Her fake moans annoyed at times, but I learned to block those out. There was a mirror at the top of the bed. I laid with my feet at the head of the bed and had her butt facing me and I could also watch her head going up and down on mine. I reassure all of you that it was a beautiful and memorable sight.
After my second relacion, she showered herself briefly and got dressed. I was in there for about 45 minutes. I was a happy person and walked back to Apartahotel del Rio with a smile.
I unfortunately did have enough time to return to the Clinic on another day.
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Thoughts on the two casas. They are kinda dirty. The Clinic was cleaner and better run than the Av2N No. 23A-95 place. The clinic had white/solid colored sheets so you can in theory see if the sheets are clean. The Av2N No.23A-95 place had patterned sheets.
I felt fairly safe in both casas. I brought my own towel so that I can wipe myself down afterwards. I basically showered at the hotel. Walked over with only 10k more than what I expect to pay for the hour. Often the girls asked if I wanted to shower first (it can be hot/humid in Cali), and I would tell them that my hotel is really close and I showered right before I came here (which was true).
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Other thoughts:
I really didn’t visit any of the clubs on Av Sexta. I’m already tired from the casas during the day. I did see plenty of SWs on Av 6a, when my friend was driving me around. There isn’t much touristy stuff to see in Cali. Cali Viejo is a wonderful restaurant (5000 COP taxi ride from my hotel), which I highly recommend (further west from the Cali Zoo). I did visit the Cali Zoo (7500 COP) after I ate at Cali Viejo and it was an okay zoo.
Chipichape Mall is nice mall. I think it is overhyped as having all these beautiful women walking around. I did see some, particularly if they are wearing those mini-skirts, but overall I was wasn’t OVERLY impressed. Maybe I’m just very particular or I went at the wrong times.
Overall, I felt less safe than when I was in Bogota. I don’t think I would return to Cali in the immediate future, although the casas are a great deal. I think I would want to experience Medellin before I come back to Cali (I’ve been in Bogota, Cartagena, and Barranquilla).
Airport Departure tax from Cali is 65k COP or $26 USD. I was exempt from the $16 USD stamp tax because I got a stampe upon arrival in Bogota.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Jesus Christ man where did you find them?[/QUOTE]My brother in law runs a mail order bride and bachlor tour bussiness (Calicalicaliente.com) out in Cali this is just a tyipical weekend for him. I think he runs the bussiness just to have an excuse to cheat on his wife LOL.
Heres another pic of the ferias in Cali this day there was a ton of chicks out.
Ok, maybe this will work.
Can anyone please suggest what would be the best city to monger for a first timer(very little spanish speaking skills).
Cartagena or MDE or Cali or Bogota?
I prefer light skinned Colombianas.
Thanks for all the help
[QUOTE=Tummysangs]Can anyone please suggest what would be the best city to monger for a first timer(very little spanish speaking skills).
Cartagena or MDE or Cali or Bogota?
I prefer light skinned Colombianas.
Thanks for all the help[/QUOTE]
Medellin I think, doesn't seem to be that much look in Cali or the Coast (BAQ&CTG)
Charkboy, those girls are fucking HOOTTTTTTTT! Too hot for any of us to have. Those are 10's man.
Dude you shouldn't post photos of girls that fine it just makes the rest of us wanna eat ours hearts out. Esp for people like that havent been yet. :)
Damn it. You know what fuck it. i wanna live in Cali. I dont care if its so dangerous I get my head blown off. Seeing women that fine would be worth it.
How does a guy that lives in Cali stay faithful with all those hotties running around? i know for a fact I wouldnt be able to keep it in my pants.
Master Yoda
I dont know one colombian that is faithful its almost like your expected to cheat if your a man. Cali is realy not that dangerous if you go with the right people i.e they do not take you to the bad parts of the city. The girls are good looking but they are definitly typical in Cali
[QUOTE=Master Yoda]Charkboy, those girls are fucking HOT! Too hot for any of us to have. Those are 10's man.
Dude you shouldn't post photos of girls that fine it just makes the rest of us wanna eat ours hearts out. Esp for people like that havent been yet. :)
Damn it. You know what fuck it. i wanna live in Cali. I dont care if its so dangerous I get my head blown off. Seeing women that fine would be worth it.
How does a guy that lives in Cali stay faithful with all those hotties running around? i know for a fact I wouldnt be able to keep it in my pants.
Master Yoda[/QUOTE]
BOGOTA, Colombia - It was like a macabre twist in a film noir: Confused hit men on the lookout for two men in a white sedan gun down the wrong people. Then they spot their intended targets, in the same traffic jam 20 yards away. And kill them, too. And it was all caught on a traffic camera.
It happened midday Thursday in the southwestern city of Cali.
The assassins struck as lunchtime traffic congealed.
Running up alongside the car, they blasted through the windows of the white Mazda. Trapped in traffic, trapped in their car, the passengers never had a chance.
Only after the shooting was over did the gunmen realize their intended targets were in another white sedan stuck in the same traffic jam.
Footage from a traffic camera shows them run forward and fire through the windows of the Honda. Darting away through the stationary cars, the hit men run to a waiting motorcycle and escape.
"The mode of killing has all the hallmarks of drug-related assassination and the fact that one of the victims in the second car had survived an assassination attempt three days earlier," said Gen. Luis Moore, commander of the Cali metropolitan police.
Moore said police caught one of the alleged assassins shortly after the shooting.
Colombia's third-largest city, Cali is in the midst of bloody clash between rival drug capos that has left hundreds dead.
Hope you are well. Bummer AntiFreeze bailed to Lima, you should go visit him down there.
Your post shows that even if you stay away from drugs or dodgy areas it is still too easy to get stuck in the wrong place at the wrong time (traffic is all too common in Cali, though Bogota is where Colombian traffic is truly LA Like).
I’m sitting here about to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] myself from laughing so hard! All of these guys writing in posts thinking that they’ve accomplished some huge feat by visiting "dangerous" Colombia. One may think they were talking about Baghdad or something. By any means, my suggestion to them is to keep their mongering at home in places like Iowa, Kansas, etc. And invite the town’s Deli Clerk for a lunch date, instead of writing all of these posts hammering Cali by placing danger where it doesn’t exist. And for anyone who’s "on the fence" about going to Colombia to Monger, believe me, it is one of the best countries around to Monger. Somehow I think that all of these guys who write about how rough and tough of a place it is, probably get kicked around wherever they go.
After reading all of these posts for the last month or two of these so called "experts" badmouthing Colombia, I decided to take another stand-by flight to Cali for a few days. Boy did I miss that Colombian poon! This time I decided to take another approach, in that I’m kind of bored with the Massage Houses and the Strip Joints. I decided to just walk around in the outside markets in all of the "dangerous" areas and ask women if they wanted sex for 30, 000 pesos (about $17 or so U. S.). Six out of nine accepted. Two of them charged a tad bit more. Nobody at my hotel charged a "guest fee", and once again, nobody tried to rob me, kidnap me, etc. As usual, everyone I came across was really friendly and open. Colombian people are always very open to foreigners and interested in finding out more about foreign culture. It is such a shame that so many people who write in on this site do not return the favor of respect to the people of Colombia. So, if you want to get laid by really hot women for an inexpensive price, go to Cali. If you want to sit at home and jack off and be scared of the world, continue writing inflammatory articles about Colombia.
Are you a cool guy or what?
I never thought of showing such respect to Colombians as to walking up to them on the street and offering money for sex.
No one ever said that Cali was Iraq, but it is absolutely naive to say it is a safe place.
You run there a few times and nothing happened to you so it's absolutely safe?
Maybe take the advice of locals, guys that live there or vist there very frequently:
Great chicas, great mongering, great people, go for a visit, enjoy!!
Do keep your guard up though, the danger can find you in a hurry if you don't.
Suerte!
[QUOTE=Skug37]I’m sitting here about to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] myself from laughing so hard! All of these guys writing in posts thinking that they’ve accomplished some huge feat by visiting "dangerous" Colombia. One may think they were talking about Baghdad or something. By any means, my suggestion to them is to keep their mongering at home in places like Iowa, Kansas, etc. And invite the town’s Deli Clerk for a lunch date, instead of writing all of these posts hammering Cali by placing danger where it doesn’t exist. And for anyone who’s "on the fence" about going to Colombia to Monger, believe me, it is one of the best countries around to Monger. Somehow I think that all of these guys who write about how rough and tough of a place it is, probably get kicked around wherever they go.
After reading all of these posts for the last month or two of these so called "experts" badmouthing Colombia, I decided to take another stand-by flight to Cali for a few days. Boy did I miss that Colombian poon! This time I decided to take another approach, in that I’m kind of bored with the Massage Houses and the Strip Joints. I decided to just walk around in the outside markets in all of the "dangerous" areas and ask women if they wanted sex for 30, 000 pesos (about $17 or so U. S.). Six out of nine accepted. Two of them charged a tad bit more. Nobody at my hotel charged a "guest fee", and once again, nobody tried to rob me, kidnap me, etc. As usual, everyone I came across was really friendly and open. Colombian people are always very open to foreigners and interested in finding out more about foreign culture. It is such a shame that so many people who write in on this site do not return the favor of respect to the people of Colombia. So, if you want to get laid by really hot women for an inexpensive price, go to Cali. If you want to sit at home and jack off and be scared of the world, continue writing inflammatory articles about Colombia.[/QUOTE]
If you think that Colombia is as safe as any large American city, you're a fool. Its more like a midnight walk in Central Park. Or maybe walking around the Bronx with a plackard proclaiming you hate blacks and hispanics.
You survive Colombia in the same way as the locals do: keeping alert, keeping a eye out for danger, local knowledge. Fear is an essential part of survival anywhere and if you ignore that instinct the odds are you'll pay the price one day.
[QUOTE=Tummysangs]Can anyone please suggest what would be the best city to monger for a first timer(very little spanish speaking skills).
Cartagena or MDE or Cali or Bogota?
I prefer light skinned Colombianas.
Thanks for all the help[/QUOTE]
I love Cali: the climate, the women, everything. But if you're a first-time vistor I think I'd go somewhere safer for now. Guys here rave about the MDE chicas but I personally prefer BOG.
Or go to The Mansion etc and take a sampler.
Why confine yourself to the markets where the poor shop? Go find the hottest babes at Chipachape or one of the nightclubs on the Sexta, wait until the BF goes to the head, and then go up and offer her 30,000 Pesos to screw you. To quote those Guinness ads you see on TV "Brilliant!"
This reminds me of this guy posting about how he knew Russian airliners were safe, despite the statistics, because he had sat and watched them take off and land "several times" without incident.
ricker,
skug37 never stated that cali was "absolutely safe" so i'd give the guy a break on that because your statement insinuates that he did.
addictedtowomen,
you wrote:
if you think that colombia is as safe as any large american city, you're a fool.
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i think it is "safe to say" that one can not compare a country (colombia) to any large american city, as you stated. however in comparison of countries, colombia vs usa, you are more at risk in colombia when you leave the big cities which is the reverse in the usa (you are less at risk when you leave the big cities).
i myself think that large colombian cities are just as dangerous as large american cities. more often than not it will more likely depend on the person that gets himself into trouble as opposed to it coming to him. are there exceptions to this? of course there are.
btw- in my home usa city last week, the city settled million dollar payouts to families of persons shot dead by the police. in both (separate) cases the people shot did not have a weapon. in one case the person flipped open a cell phone and the other had sunglasses in their hand. both were percieved as weapons at the time they were shot. many oficers (male and female) are brutal and disrespectful. i have family on the city police payroll that have refused to work with some of their peers because of it. i have a couple of friends in the city counsil that say the city has paid out an average of 45 million dollars over the last 5 years in cases involving police brutality as well.
on the flip side, i have yet to have any colombian (in a large city) tell me of police mistreating average citizens or being disrestful. i'm not saying it never happens (may even be the norm) but in my city, the police (especially the females) have gotten out of hand to the point that we wonder who the criminals really are.
cheers,
cubanut
[QUOTE=Skug37]Don't worry about a thing. I spent about 5 weeks there about 6 months ago and never felt safer. There are police officers on every corner. I stayed with some friends in a supposedly "unsafe" area, but I just noticed that the only difference was that it was better secured than other areas. I only had one problem-that turned out to be an incident that made me feel even safer there. Some guy started follwing me, asking where I was going, what I wanted, etc. He was starting to annoy me, so I just started kicking his ass.... [/QUOTE]
Give me a break Cuba ... I don't think the place is a war zone, I love visiting Cali, I'm there quite often, I have an apartment in Cali with mi novia, I'll be back there tommorrow.
I invite and encourage everyone to visit Cali. They'll meet some great chicas and have a great time.
Just not a good idea to be saying it's "very safe" (the title of his post), "don't worry about a thing."
Cali is fantastic, but it can be dangerous ... it's true.
Not everyone can just start kicking someone's ass like SKUG.
Suerte!
[quote=cubanut]
on the flip side, i have yet to have any colombian in a large city tell me of police mistreating average citizens or being disrestful. i'm not syaing it never happens but in my city the police (especially the females) have gotten out of hand to the point that we wonder who the criminals really are.
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your post deserves a more considered reply that i have time to give right now: i'll try and return to it in the near future.
but on this issue, police corruption and violence is indemic in colombia. the establishment of a police complaints bureau, against the wishes of the army, has been one step to trying to make it a professional force, but there's a long way to go.
the police regularly use [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], violence, and murder against factions and individuals in society, and are happy to stand by whilst honest citizens beat the shit out of criminals knowing that this, in many cases, is the best form of justice the society can deliver.
and for that reason i'm coming to the opinion that, whilst for sure this needs to be reigned in, it also needs to remain until an better form of protecting society from real criminals is put in place. we cannot judge colombian police by the standards we would wish to apply to police forces in the us or europe.
[QUOTE=Ricker]Cali is fantastic, but it can be dangerous ... it's true.
Not everyone can just start kicking someone's ass like SKUG.
Suerte![/QUOTE]
Ricker,
You've got your break Amigo. My apologies.
I was wondering where you got that "Cali is very safe" qoute and had to go back to Skug37's 1-28-07 post which I had not read before.
I was commenting on Skug37's post from yesterday 2-24-07 whereas you were commenting on his post from 1-28-07 where he stated Cali is "Very Safe".
I'm in agreement with you that it is a city where you can keep your guard up and still have alot of fun.
Cheers,
Cubanut
I made my second trip to Cali last weekend and had another good time. Naturally the salsa clubs are always off the hook but I also checked out cancha panamericana. My novia es a caleña so I didn't have too much time to check out P4P.
This is Cali's version of their sports complex, kinda.. similar to what MDE has but not as nice. Anyways if you are looking to get in some exercise there are about 8 basketball courts and there are folks always out there balling. Since Cali's warm you have a lot more people playing basketball than in other cities like Bogotá.
Ok. Don't like basketball well cacha panamericana is still worth a visit for the best Cholados (similar to salpicon but better) and you also have a lot of folks selling pirate CDs so if you want to pick up some good salsa (Grupo Nice, Guayacan, etc.) it's worth a stop.
Cheers,
D
[QUOTE=Charkboy]I dont know one colombian that is faithful its almost like your expected to cheat if your a man. Cali is realy not that dangerous if you go with the right people i.e they do not take you to the bad parts of the city. The girls are good looking but they are definitly typical in Cali[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info Charkboy. I am in the DR right now and at the moment the non-pro scene in Santiago sucks. I don't know what these gringos have been talking about but you need game here. I speak excellent spanish so no one can say shit to me about not being able to speak the language. Its not like shooting fish in a barrel like some guys have you believe. I spoke to a friend of mine from Cali. We are about the same age and he has shown me a couple of chicas that he has banged nothing really hot just average. Anyway he was telling me he gets turned down alot more than he gets success. And the only women he can pull are the ones with kids. So unless he is BSing me it sounds like Cali isn't any different. He lives in San Antonio now. I wonder what kind of a place that is.
Master Yoda,
Non pros are always more selective in most Latin countries. The exception I would say is Cuba. Many young Cubanas hook up with older Cubans for whatever reason other than money (remember I said older Cubans and not Gringos).
Since you say you don't care much for non-pros then this shpould not be an issue because there are plenty of pros.
Cheers,
Cubanut
I visited Cali a week ago with a 3 day stay. Took the 4:30 pm Sunday February 18 from Miami direct. Arrived in Cali at 8 pm. Had a non-pro meeting me in the airport. I met her via the internet. She arrives with a friend and from there we go. We drop off her friend and head for the hotel. Stayed at Aparthotel Del Rio 110,000 per night. I got a headached from the non-pro talking so I told her that I was leaving a day early. She says it's best because she has to go to school later in the day anyway. We take a cab to Frisby's, eat, and return to the hotel so she can get her clothes. So, off she goes and off I go, for some mongering.
I shower and then decide to visit Clinica del Amor. There are guys who I guess were waiting for their favorite chicas. I'm greeted by the host and then she brings in the girls. I made my choice after the first greet. I like curvy women, and she had extremely nice curves. So after the routine I pay and off we go. I ask for a pic and she thinks it's for the net. I tell her that I'll just snap a shot from behind and we're all happy. She goes for it. We session and then talk. I ask about her visiting me after work. She says yes and I should come back between 8:45-9pm so we can leave together. I say no, just come to the hotel (my dumb mistake). I session again, and then leave to eat again.
I ended up at Frisby's again, email Mr Enternational, and then return for some rest before the chica arrives. After 9:15, I figure she's not coming. So I order some food, eat, and then prepare for the night. I check out Club Faroah (sp?), grab a water, and look around. It's not that great but I found someone to session with. I figured if I didn't session, I would regret it when I returned. So I take 1 hour with her and then return to the hotel.
I leave Sunday morning to return home. Pics of the room and the chica are in the photo gallery.
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We were in Cali at the beginning of November and hooked up with some non-pros who spent the night with us. My friend returned to Cali two weeks ago to see his. He doesn't speak Spanish and she doesn't speak English. He stayed 3 days at the Sheraton Four Points. Today he told me that when he was about to leave she told him that he had to give her COP 300, 000. He said he laughed at her and gave her taxi money to get back home. WTF?
I thought I'd go ahead and post my experience in Cali. I ended up changing my itinerary and put Cali on the back end of my trip so I could have 4 nights in Cali as opposed to one. I spent Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday night in Cali. When I arrived on Friday I checked out the Apartahotel del Rio and Apartahotel Real (I think thats the name). I opted for Apartahotel del Rio solely because it had a swimming pool (on the top floor). It also seemed higher class. However, I wouldnt say Apartahotel Real is bad by any imignination. In fact Apartahotel Rela you have a choice of rooms with bathtubs even some with Jacuzzis and a Sauna (in the room). I asked about the hot water and sure they had hot water and when I asked is there enough hot water that is going to fill up that huge jacuzzi in my room and they said honestly. No. So I thought since my bags were already at Apartahotel del Rio I'll just stick it out there. As for prices. Maybe they raised them as they were slightly different than posted here. And I did ask them over and over, are you sure its not xyz price. Apartahotel Real. 70k, 80k, and 90k. Depending on room. Room with jacuzzi only 80k, room with Jacuzzi and Sauna 90k, room with neither. 70k. No chica fees if it's only 1 chica. If you bring back 2 chicas at the same time (I. E. A 3 some) then they charge 10k pesos for the 2nd chica. This is what they told me as I did not ask about bringing back 2 chicas at the same time. Apartahotel del Rio it's 92k pesos for a single room (it was very well furnished as I had no need for a junior suite. A room that has a separte living room from bedroom. I ended up choosing a certain room based on it havivng a balcony and a killer bed. Yes, I lay down on all the beds when I look at each room to choose the room with the best matress and pillows. So it's 92k pesos for 1 person or 102k pesos for 2 people. However, if you do the 1 person then it's 92k pesos and if you bring someone back then its another 30k pesos. But I can tell you that this is either not enforced or maybe some people are just luckier than others.
After checking in I went to Olimpica around the corner and bought some things and on the way back took an alternate route solely to check out the casas. Not to partake just to see the chicas. First I went by Calle 23aN 2N-95. That's the address, there was no name on the door. I went in, sat down with about 20 other Colombianos (I was the only gringo). There weren't that many available chicas. In fact only about 3 introduced themselves. The others were all occupied. I asked how many were there and they told me 8. I assume that is why there were so many Colombianos waiting. The 3 that were introduced didn't fit my standards. I. E. Petite and below 50kgs. There was one though that I caught a glimpse of right as I walked in, that from the back-side looked like she had a chance of being a real gem, but she was walking out the back door and I never saw her agian. I sat around there about 20 minutes and then left. Next I went to Clinica del Amor. I sat there about an hour. I saw about 20 different gals. Pretty much 2 or 3 would become availble every five minutes or so. I asked how many were there and they said 30. They also said 2pm is the best time to come as that is when all of them are there. They open at 9am but not all are there until 2pm. It was 5pm and many were taken, so I waited the hour just to know what they all looked like. Only 1 really looked doable in my opinion but I wasnt there for a chica I just wanted to see what they looked like. After an hour I left. Oh. Prices at both these places were exactly what others here have posted.
Next I went back to my hotel and showered and then off to Chipichape. Took me about 2 hours to find the Internet Cafe there as I got sidetracked, as that's an easy way to meet chicas. Asking everyone if they know where the Internet cafe is. Kind of an icebreaker and reason to approach them. So after spending a good 45 minutes chatting up a hottie over a cool lemonade at one of those kiosks in the mall I had a date for the evening. Went to the Internet, then back to my hotel to shower and waited for my date to arrive. And she was on time. Wow. We went to dinner at a place called Faros. It was real close to my hotel. 3, 100 peso minimum cab fare. She chose the place, and what can I say. It was awesome. I had the medallones de lomo in an oriental sauce. About 20k pesos. Yummy. We ate and chitchatted and then went dancing. She took me to a place called Jalajala. A couple of notes. 1) in Cali they dance salsa differently than Barranquilla. In cali they dance kind of far apart, in Barranquilla they dance pegado. The salsa songs they play in Cali are a bit faster as well. We danced pegado though:.) Also, they dance Vallenato differently in Cali. My date told me that I actually dance it correct and everyone in Cali was dancing it incorrect. That made me feel kind of good to know that of the 1000 people I was actually the one with the right moves to the rythm. She told me it's because I learned it in Barranquilla and that's where Vallanato comes from. Which is true. So we stayed till around 3am dancing the night away. The place was still packed when we left so I don't know what time it closed. Woke up at noon, told her I'd call her on Sunday and just kind of just hung around the hotel for a while.
I figured I'd go back to chipichape as it was relatively easy to find a date for Friday night. So around 2pm off I went. As I was talking to some chicas I found out there was a Wisin y Yandel concert at Plaza de Torres so I figured. Oh yeah (I love Regetton) so I need to find someone special. It didn't take too long and soon after I had a date. Fortunately I told her to be at my hotel by 7pm as she showed up about 45 minutes late. We went to dinner, can't remember the place and then off to the concert. We didn't have tickets but it was pretty easy to get them. Though I did pay 100k pesos per ticket, probably overpaid but I didn't care. The concert was awesome and afterward we went bcak to the hotel and saw there was a disco right by the hotel so we went there. I have no idea the name of the disco but it was open until around 5am. We woke up at 3pm on Sunday and I felt like total shit. Headache from hell. By the looks of it she felt just as bad. My body felt like someone had kicked the crap out of me, so I cranked up the ac and just layed in bed till around 6pm.
Finally I decided to get up and didn't have a clue what I'd do that evening so I went downstairs and flagged down a taxi and asked him if Escoces was open and he said no. I asked him what there was to do on a Sunday night and he said Juanchito is the rocking place on Sunday night. So I decided Juancito it is and I remember Surfer saying how hot Juanchito was. So I went back to my room, pulled out my laptop and remembered I had a contact I had met on ciber cupido about a year and a hlaf ago. I had only chatted with this gal about 5-6 times as when I realized I was going to move to Barranquilla I didn't see the need to keep a bunch of contacts all over to Colombia. So I called her up. Her landline was not in service any more so I called her cell phone and sure enough I got her. It was the oddest conversation ever. Imagine calling someone you met on Cibercupido 18 months ago and only chatted via msn a few times a long time ago. She had no idea who I was. We talked for about 15 minutes and I told her I wanted to go to Jaunchito. She was not keen on the idea of Juanchito, but said she wanted to meet me and told me she'd be over in about 45 minutes. She showed up in 30 minutes. With her mother. She was hot, a lot more traditional than I expected. We all spoke in the lobby for about 15 minutes and went through the what do you do, etc. Her mom suggested that we go someone and grab a drink so off we went in a taxi and ended up a place called Iguana. We were pretty much the only ones there. It was Sunday evening around 8pm. It ends up she has a 3 yr old son. We talked for about 2 hours. Actually her mom did most of the talking. I almost wasnt sure who my date was with. I tried to get her to go to Juanchito with me but she had classes in the morning and they both pretty much made it clear that I shouldnt go to Juanchito and that it's not a real classy place. Iguana closed at 10pm (I think everything pretty much closes at 10pm on Sunday night in Cali. So tells me a taxi driver) and we agree to see each other the next day. SO I go back to my hotel, brush my teeth and make my way out the door to Juanchito solo. I know, it probably wasnt the brightest of ideas to go there alone, but I was determined to see what Juanchito was all about. The cabbie told the doorman and myself 10k pesos. I agreed and he didn't even start the meter. The whole way there he told me to not let any cab driver try to take me to the cleaners on the way back. He said they all will quote me 20-25k pesos for a ride back and he told me to insist on 10k pesos and to tell them that was all I had. So we finally get to Juanchito and he was very friendly and gave me a layout of the place. Driving by numerous places he told me all about them and then I asked about the other places he had recommended earlier in the drive which he had not yet shown me. He drove about another 500 meters and told me if I go back and forth from those places he just shwed me to the ones he was now taking me to that I should take a cab as the walk is dangerous across some bridge it looked like. So we get to the other side of the bridge. Se a few more places and then come to a disco called "Changos" with a real long line. The guards in front stop him and he points at me and tells them he's just going to show me the place from the front. He drives right up to the front, someone opens the door, pushes me right up to the front of the line and tells the security to let me right in. I felt like, yeah thats cool. I didn't ask for this but I certainly wasnt going to say "No, Id prefer to go to the back of that line with over 100 people in it. " There was no cover charge and when I got in, I was presently surprised to see a good 700-1000 people. For a Sunday night that was a verry happening place. A chatted around and came to the conclusion that Juanchito is so packed because everything in Cali closes at 10pm on Sunday. If thye are even open at all. I make friends/contacts with various groups and just kind of walk around a mingle a bit to get a feel of the place. After a few hours go by and I've danced with 4-5 different gals I finally settle with 1. I will say that I had numerous gals say no when I asked to dance. Probably 4-5. I even had a little run in with 1 guy as the gal I asked to dance said yes and as we were walking out to the dance floor he grabbed her and wouldnt let her go. I went back to her and said, are we going to dance and she looked at him and then just sat down without him even saying a word. I was going to go make my way over to sit down next to her when a heavy set 40-50 yr old Colombiana (probably 250 lbs) at the next table over with a huge smile on her face grabs me from behind, takes my hand and pretty much just starts dancing with me right then and there until we make it to the dance floor. I got the picture, didn't say another word about it and just enjoyed the dance. Afterward I just walked to the other side of the disco and never heard from them again. I just brought this up as this is one of the issues with going to a disco alone. It's actually not my style at all to go alone, but I really wanted to check out Juanchito. Ok so like I said, I finally chose my prefered chica. Stuck with her for many hours. Somewhere along the line we ended up at the same table with a gentleman who said he was an exec at whatever the bottle of liquor he was drinking was. I can't remember the name as it wasnt one of the usual Ron Medellin or de Caldas which I was used to seeing in Barranquilla. Around 4am he invited us back to his house. I wasnt real confortable with this, but he seemed like a well to do kind of guy. So off we went. There was 9 or 10 of us. We went in 3 cabs. It seemed like a long way and I didn't pay the cab fare. One of the other guys did so I didn't catch how much it was and I had no clue where we were. We got back to his house and it really wasnt my kind of party. A lot of drugs and after saying no about 10 times me and my chica finally left. No clue what time it was as I didn't wear my watch to Juanchito. The sun was up though. Again I woke up around 1pm not felling real good. Got the chica out the door remembering I told my cibercupida gal we'd get together today. I called my ciberchica contact and her and her daughter came over to go swimming. They arrived around 3pm, we spent about an hour in the pool and decided to go see a movie that evening. She brought extra clothes and when we made it up to my room we turned on the tube, baby fell asleep on the bed and we started kissing. I told her we needed to shower if we were going to make a 7: 00pm movie. I was about to ask her if she wanted to shower first and then the kissing got heavy. I walked with her on my feet to the bathroom and in the shower we were. All I can say is WOW. I should have called this gal on Friday. It was the best fuck of my life. No if, ands, or buts about it. We finish, get dressed, take her baby to her house to her mother (no clue where) but I did see a sign close that said Palmetto and there were a bunch of strip clubs a few blocks away so it didn't seem like a real nice neighborhood. Went to the movie, then cabbed back to my hotel where we said our goodbyes as I couldn't convince her to stay the night as she had class the next morning and a baby to attend to. She's a gem though that I will definitely stay in contact with. I pack my stuff up as my plane leaves on Tuesday morning at 9am. Thus need to leave by 5: 30am to taxi to the bus teminal and catch a bus to get to airport by 7pm. It's now around12: 30am and I'm bored. I also realize I left my cigarettes in my chicas purse. I only smoke Marlboro lights so down the elevator I go and one of the porteros walks around the neightborhood with me looking for Marlboro Lights at 12: 30am on a Monday night. We pass by a joint that looks like a strip club and I see a hottie stick her head out the door and I think to myself. Once I find my cigarettes I'll come back to this place. I tell the portero lets get a cab to find cigarettes as it's obvious by this point that we werent going to find Marlboro Lights walking around. We find them at a 24 hour pharmacy type place. I go back to my hotel, brush my teeth, drink a beer and head out the door to this strip joint type place. The place closes at 2am. I can't remember the name but its only about 300 meters from the hotel. I think it was called Pharons over something like that. I go inside. There are about 10 chicas. I see 2 that I like. 1 was talking to someone on the couch so I invite the other that I like over. We chat for about 15 minutes, she dances to the Regetton music for me a few songs and I ask her the prices. It's 60k/hour or 45k/30 minutes. At this point it's like 1: 30am and the place closes at 2am. I had told her that I was leaving for the airport at 5: 30am so she suggests that I just wait for her and she'll come back with me to my hotel at 2am and stay till I need to leave. I said, sure. We never talk price or anything. I go outside around 1: 55am and wait and some other gringos come out. I talk to them about 15 minutes, they tell me that there are also 2 other gringos inside. I didn't even notice. Heck there were only about 8-10 males in the place and 5 of us were gringos. I just didint notice. I guess I was too focues on looking at the chicas. We talk awhile. They are there for a month. I asked them if they had heard of Escoces. They siad they went a few nights earlier and they told me the place sucks. They said the chicas arent hot, the prices are high and they said they've got a ton of numbers of chicas they've met. 20-30. They said they don't even know who to call at times they've met so many chicas. So why go to some overpriced place with no hot chicas. That made me not feel so bad about not checking it out. My chica then comes out and I tell them that I need go. My chica and I walk back to my hotel. Have a beer, a very nice GFE, then fall asleep for an hour, wake up and do it all again, get dressed, I ask her how much she wants. She says how about 50k pesos. I hand it to her, take the elevator dwon with her and flag her a cab, shower and then off to the airport. That's my Cali experience. Overall, I enjoyed Cali. I didn't really feel any danger, though I really didn't get out and explore in the daytime like I've done in other cities. Overall Cali just kind of felt like centro of Medellin or the south areas of Barranquilla. I. E. It's no Pobaldo, but if you keep your wits, speak spanish, and steer clear of upsetting anyone it seems alright. I'd probably say I felt the most insecure at the concert or obviously when it seemed like I upset a Colombiano for asking someone to dance in Juanchito. He was pretty drunk though and I just walked away after the fat lady grabbed me. It's just not worth making a scene to dance with someone you don't even know when there are hundreds of other beautiful women. Ok. That's my stint in Cali. No one flame me. I know I said I was pretty faithful to my girlfriend. Let's just say, I've learned I'm very faithful when I'm in the US and even when I'm living in Colombia in the same city as her. Get me in a different city than her in Colombia and well. I guess I just learned that I'm really not ready to tie the knot again. I do care for her and love her. But I'm not ready for that next step again. Let's leave it at that. Hopefully this info can help someone.
[QUOTE=Winner71]Very good point. I guess I should have said, Id love to drink, dance, relax, chit-chat with some Calenas and all the better if they are in Lingerie, but I don't plan on doing the deed with any of them. Why would I go. Oh, because I'd like to see how Calenas compare to Barranquilleras. Both in looks, personality, attitude. Granted that may not be a fair comparison given that it's working girls of Cali. But it should be interesting and sure, who didn't enjoy a little temptation. Maybe I'll find out I'm not really ready to settle down. I wouldnt be unfaithful, but if the urge was really really great, I would explain my desires to my chica and see what happens from there. Thus. I should have explained that better. Curiosity and temptation. But when I said hit the town. I was kind of thinking just a disco and some friendly conversation. But I do like the Escoces idea better. Need to get the past the curiosity stage wondering what Calenas are really like. I've been to Cali, but I was hitched and set up with a chica before I got there so I didn't really get any feel for what meeting a Calena is all about. That's what I'm up for, does that make more sense now? I didn't think so. Your recommendation of Escoces is great. Thanks again
[QUOTE=Cubanut]Winner71,
You're dancing all over the place now. You first said you only wanted to hit the town. Then you wanted to check out some hot chicks dancing. Then you said you're faithful to your girl. Then you said you want to sit abd drink with the girls. And now you are asking if Cali is worth checking out a couple of days?
Well my friend you can do it all and enjoy it all but ultimately it's all up to you to decide on a path to follow. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]We were in Cali at the beginning of November and hooked up with some non-pros who spent the night with us. My friend returned to Cali two weeks ago to see his. He doesn't speak Spanish and she doesn't speak English. He stayed 3 days at the Sheraton Four Points. Today he told me that when he was about to leave she told him that he had to give her COP 300, 000. He said he laughed at her and gave her taxi money to get back home. WTF?[/QUOTE]Mr Enternational how old r u? the gringo I am talking of is in his 50's and I am speaking of the 10's not average looking women.
Hey Winner 71,
It's great you wrote a report here! You seem like a cool dude, but amigo, do you realize how difficult it is to read your looooooooong paragraphs. I had to stop, giving me a headache :)
Winner very good report. I for one enjoy the details. So keep it long and sweet. Dont forget to post some pics!!!!!
[QUOTE=Luis The Great]Winner very good report. I for one enjoy the details. So keep it long and sweet. Dont forget to post some pics![/QUOTE]Details, we all love the details. Like I said, enjoyed the report, it's the 10 mile long paragraph that'll knock you out :)
I am in Cali now and wanted to know if anyone could suggest the best casa to visit. I have been to Doctor Amor and like the place but the Jacuzzi was broken and I have been through their selection already. If anyone could suggest a similar place it would be appreciated. I especially like the steam room and Jacuzzi, but would also like a large selection of girls.
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Hoyaboy]I am in Cali now and wanted to know if anyone could suggest the best casa to visit. I have been to Doctor Amor and like the place but the Jacuzzi was broken and I have been through their selection already. If anyone could suggest a similar place it would be appreciated. I especially like the steam room and Jacuzzi, but would also like a large selection of girls.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
The casa at Calle 23AN 2N-95 should be about one block from Clinica del Dr Amor. This is one place I have not been to and suppossedly has a good line up from reports below.
I don't think you will find any places with jacuzzi's and when you say the one at Dr. amor is broken do you mean the pumps or the heater because it doesn't have heated water even when the pumps work.
Also, I don't have the address but Casa Vanessa's was under rehab when Robert and I went to check it out and the people said that it averages about 40 girls when open. It's in the same area as the Clinica but again since it wasn't open at the time I didn't pay attention to the address. Try asking the cabbies if they know whre Casa Vanessa's is because that's how we found it just by asking the random cabbie we had. Looked to be a very large house from the outside.
At night of course there is Pharoahs and La piscina and the place next to La Piscina. Look at the Cali Lists section for more info on these.
Please remember to post if you come across any new places.
Cheers,
Cubanut
Hello guys,
Just came back from 3 weeks Colombia, and had a great time! , to say the least. Must say took me somewhat 3, 4 days to get used to Cali, it is just a liitle different then I expected, I never came across weird things but I think that is beceause I was carefull in all I did. And it is my humble suggestion that all other visitors also do.
Enough said about that, the women. ! Wow they are wicked. Beauty, body and passion!
Dr Amor deserves a special thx! Wow what a great place, from 9am til 9pm lots of women for little!
Lots of other Casa lacked selection of girls or they had terrible surroundings or equally terrible rooms. But I guess there are so many, and you are bound to find some gorgeous girl hidden somewhere in these Casa's if you invest some time.
Escoces, not to be missed! Nice trendy club with great selection of women that do know their prices (somewhat 240k 2hour) but even here negotiations can be made. I just went there to have a bottle of rum get to know some girls, relax and negotiate a good price and then ask them over at my hotel (apartahotel Del Rio = Great hotel! ) for a nice fresh fuck in the daytime. Candles and a small token (earrings or chain) do wonders my friends. Sex will be so much better when you make them feel special beforehand.
Then we met some really nice college girls trough some weird guy at Chippi, he gave us his nr telling us he had classy students. Next day he set up a meeting with these 2 young 19 year old hotties. They came over to our place in chippi and me and my cousin could not believe it. , the sheer beauty. And natural (rare in chippi) big tits.
Off course shrewed as we are we did not settle for "his" high price of 300k! As he was not there anyway we got the nr of one of the girls (Marcela) and had them at our hotel the next day for mucho mas barrato! (that is half of asking price) mannnnn, they were worth it, many pictures taken will put them in photo section in 2 days! (finally some pictures there instead of blablabla) PM me for telnr.
Also one day I called this escort service that send me a girl (Dominique), mhhhh what can I say again gorgeous and great natural tits, they asked for 150 an hour I settled for 100 for an hour and she was passionate and gave me her nr afterwards and told me she would come anytime if I called. Price negotiable off course. Well I never had the time to have her over again but I sure regret that. Pictures of her will also follow in 2 days. PM me for telnr.
I did not get that lucky with freebies at Chippi chappi somehow, but we did have some really good times at the Cafetal stand! Great people serving and nice people visiting.
Av 6, great on Saturday but rest of days pretty dull I must say, expected more, did however pick up a hot 24-year old laywer from Pasto on my 2nd day in Cali, she was there for some bussiness and we hit it off great in bed. Unfortunately no pics dumnasssssssss (*&^%$^
But freeebies, you can look for anywhere, on streets or better waitresses in bars or restaurants.
ANYWAY when I left Cali I still had so much to do, so many women that I did not meet due to time limets. Grrrrr can't wait to go back.
If any interest read my story about my 5 days in Cartagena.
Take care people.
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It seems that a few more mongers are hitting cali, than in past months. I am going to cali in July to spend time with my novia and her family. Her Mama is afraid that Cali has gotten real dangerous and is nervous about my visit. I assured my novia that I have an apratment in the North near chippichape and that we will probably stay in most of the time, during the evening. I guess my questions are, besides the obvious ( no jewelry, no walking near the river at night etc.) 1. Is there any new dangerous areas during the day 2. How save is the area near the nice restraunts on avenida sexta? I was there in Nov 2005,and had no problems.
Please advise,
Thanks
[quote=mjg dogs]it seems that a few more mongers are hitting cali, than in past months. I am going to cali in July to spend time with my novia and her family. Her mama is afraid that cali has gotten real dangerous and is nervous about my visit. I assured my novia that I have an apratment in the north near chippichape and that we will probably stay in most of the time, during the evening. I guess my questions are, besides the obvious (no jewelry, no walking near the river at night etc.) 1. Is there any new dangerous areas during the day 2. How save is the area near the nice restraunts on avenida sexta? . I was there in nov 2005, and had no problems. Please advise thanks[/quote]Unfortunately Cali has gotten more dangerous to me and my novia and cunados opinion than even 2 yrs ago, I saw more poverty and violence than usual the past 6 months, my novia got ambushed for her cell phone by 4 dudes on dirt bikes in el penon, this is the nicest area in cali besides granda. Avoid dark streets, look around at all times, never go near el centro in the pm, don't go to juanchito unless you are going to chango or samba caramba, the areas near there are dangerous ea, la barra or senegal, ok to go to, chipe chape, palmetto de sur, la sexta from the beginning to about archies pizza, then it get shady till about poker beer garden, you will also like plaza aventura in the sur, really nice and only "high class" people, all these areas last mentioned are safe only becasue of heavy police presence, please make sure you have your highest wits and street smarts about U. Don't get drunk or belligerant and walk around, don't carry your atm card or passport or wallet around with you, do not enter a cab with 2 people in the front for ant reason, be warry of your taxi drivers conversations. Be humble, you are in a foreign country, and you will be fine, I can remember driving for miles and hours without seeing any police presence. Good luck!
[QUOTE=MJG Dogs]It seems that a few more mongers are hitting cali, than in past months. I am going to cali in July to spend time with my novia and her family. Her Mama is afraid that Cali has gotten real dangerous and is nervous about my visit. I assured my novia that I have an apratment in the North near chippichape and that we will probably stay in most of the time, during the evening. I guess my questions are, besides the obvious ( no jewelry, no walking near the river at night etc.) 1. Is there any new dangerous areas during the day 2. How save is the area near the nice restraunts on avenida sexta?..... I was there in Nov 2005,and had no problems...... please advise thanks[/QUOTE]I was in Cali one year ago. Didn't care too much for the town and had a very bad experience:
There was a big salsa gig at Rumbodromo. Loads of famous Salsa acts (that I'd never heard of) and it went on for hours. I was with my amiga y su hermana, but after several (let's say 7) hours of salsa I'd had enough and decided to leave solo. It was around 2am by this time so, although not wasted, I was pretty drunk. I left the club and took the first taxi outside. Big mistake.
I told him my hotel, Tore de Cali, and he sped off. After a minute or so he began to ask me questions, which I mostly ignored. After a few more minutes we suddenly stopped. In jumps 3 guys, one at each side of me and one in the front. As if I wasn't frightened enough, the guy to my right had a gun pointed at my neck to kindly remind me of the severity of the situation.
They took everything off me. I had my wallet with me so they politely asked me for my PIN numbers which, considering the gun pointed at my neck, I gave them. So we spent the next couple of hours driving from ATM to ATM, withdrawing as much money as they could. Finally they reached my card limits and, miracle of miracles, they drove to some abandonded area of Cali and let me go.
A pretty unpleasant experience, but let's be clear about one thing: I was a complete fool. I left a club at 2am alone and I stumbled into a taxi without checking its credentials. So, two big mistakes and I paid the price. The point is though, that Cali, in fact Colombia as a whole, as much as love the place, is a place where you can't afford to let your guard slip. It's not ready for mainstream tourism.
My general advice: don't go there if you can't speak Spanish, and if you can ALWAYS ALWAYS keep your guard up.
BOGOTA, Colombia (CNN) -- Colombian President Alvaro Uribe said Saturday he favored the extradition to his country of executives of U.S. banana producer Chiquita after the company's admission that it paid Colombian right-wing death squads more than $1.7 million.
"That would be normal. Extradition should be from here to there and from there to here," Uribe said.
Colombia's attorney general said he would ask the U.S. Department of Justice for full disclosure about the case and would investigate possible links to another case from 2001. In that case, weapons and ammunition were smuggled into Colombia through a port facility operated by Chiquita's Colombian subsidiary, Banadex.
The Justice Department alleges Banadex paid protection money to Communist guerrilla groups, namely the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) and National Liberation Army (ELN), between 1989 and 1997.
Chiquita began paying the United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia (AUC), an extreme right-wing militia, after a 1997 meeting between a top Banadex official and AUC head Carlos Castano, according to court papers.
Chiquita Brands International CEO Fernando Aguirre acknowledged last week that the former subsidiary "had been forced to make payments to right- and left-wing paramilitary groups in Colombia to protect the lives of its employees."
Chiquita has agreed to pay the Justice Department $25 million in fines over those payments. Another hearing is scheduled for Monday.
Details and amounts of money Chiquita paid to the guerrillas were not disclosed. But the Justice Department said Chiquita made at least 100 direct and indirect payments totaling at least $1.7 million to the AUC between 1997 and 2004.
Colombian authorities outlawed right-wing paramilitary forces in 1989. The U.S. State Department added the AUC to its list of foreign terrorist groups in September 2001.
In November 2001, Israeli arms dealers illegally shipped 3,000 AK-47 assault rifles and 2.5 million rounds of ammunition into Colombia for the AUC through a port facility operated by Chiquita subsidiary Banadex.
Chiquita was not charged in that incident.
In a statement sent to CNN on Friday, Chiquita said: "The issues [of the payments to the AUC and the contraband weapons] are unrelated."
But in a statement issued Friday, Colombian Attorney General Mario Iguaran said he would ask U.S. officials for information about the smuggling case.
The AUC and affiliated death squads have killed thousands of union activists, leftist politicians and civilians suspected of being leftist sympathizers in and around the banana-growing regions where Chiquita operated.
Chiquita sold Banadex in 2004. But according to the main Colombian banana workers' union SINTRAINAGRO, Chiquita still buys more than 3 million 45-pound boxes of bananas each week from plantations in the Uraba and Magdalena regions.
I'll be 35 next month. The thing is that there is no consistency with everbody's 10 and everybody's average. You can see that by looking at the board. I know many girls who I think are 10s but they think themselves average. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. This day and time I think that age is hardly a factor. I would say that after age 25 people start caring less about age.
[QUOTE=Master Yoda]Mr Enternational how old r u? the gringo I am talking of is in his 50's and I am speaking of the 10's not average looking women.[/QUOTE]
How do you recognise a "safe" taxi?
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]BOGOTA, Colombia (CNN) -- Colombian President Alvaro Uribe said Saturday he favored the extradition to his country of executives of U.S. banana producer Chiquita after the company's admission that it paid Colombian right-wing death squads more than $1.7 million.[/QUOTE]At the risk of running J's displeasure for responding on the Cali board, Uribe has a point. It pisses off the Colombians something rotten that its sending *its* citizens off to US jails, but that the US doesn't extradite its low life scum (ambassador's wives and military included) reciprocally.
Mind you I suspect that U knows there's no chance of this happening so he can use it for domestic politics without having to deal with the consequences.
[QUOTE=Vatoslocos]How do you recognise a "safe" taxi?[/QUOTE]No 100% safe way, you can telephone for one, or take a cab from a line of taxis.
Hunter
I checked out a casa named cactus 2 the other night. It had the best selection that I have seen in cali.
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Ok, finally have time to report on my latest trip to Cali. all in all had a great time and didn't even get kidnapped or mugged! Although I was with my novia alot i still managed to get in some play time. First was at Escoses, great club and a few diamonds in the rough if you take your time and choose wisely, unfortunately my first wasn't the greatest but, at least she let me take some pics:) She was a dirty blonde, big tits, and a few extra pounds, not my normal hunting ground, except for the big tits. any way she was all over me the minute I walked in with my buds, very playful and we danced and had a good time. Wasn't really planning on hooking up that night but, she convinced me she was a wild fuck and loved to suck the bone, so what the hell, I'll give her a try. On the cab ride back to my place she was all over me, rubbing my cock and sticking her tounge down my throat, so thinks me, ok some good GFE here, well that lasted until we got to my place and boom 360. First thing she asks was for the money, I tell her relax, lets take a shower, I thought maybe I could get things a little heated up showering together, not so fast, alle she wanted was a *****s bath while I showered. Anyway onto the bed and she gives a half assed BBBJ, not quite what I expected from a girl who said she loves to suck cock:( We did the deed in 4 positions but , I could tell she wasn't into it, finished and sent her ass on the way. I do not recomend NORA from Escoces. Part 2 to follow
[QUOTE=Guapo 61]...a *****s bath...[/QUOTE]
Never heard that expression before... Care to elaborate?
[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen]Never heard that expression before... Care to elaborate?[/QUOTE]
Let me guess: washing only her pussy...
[QUOTE=Hoya Boy]I checked out a casa named cactus 2 the other night. It had the best selection that I have seen in cali.
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Hoya Boy,
Can u please post the location of this place, quantity and quality of the girls, the prices,etc..
Thanks in advance
Brugal8
[QUOTE=Hoya Boy]I checked out a casa named cactus 2 the other night. It had the best selection that I have seen in cali.
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Hoya Boy,
Cactus 2? Never heard of it. Can you share some info?
Cheers,
Cubanut
I didn't get the address of Cactus 2, but it is located near cactus 1. Ask a cab driver outside of one of the strip clubs and he should be able to take you. The prices are similar to other casas. 40k for 30 minutes, which is really all that you need. However, there are about 20 girls working there and about 3 or 4 takers. It is open from 9 until 3 am. Definitely my favoriate casa. A bit far though. A question for the forum. Where are the mango dancers in Colombia. Are there some in Cali?
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[QUOTE=Hoya Boy]I didn't get the address of Cactus 2, but it is located near cactus 1. Ask a cab driver outside of one of the strip clubs and he should be able to take you. The prices are similar to other casas. 40k for 30 minutes, which is really all that you need. However, there are about 20 girls working there and about 3 or 4 takers. It is open from 9 until 3 am. Definitely my favoriate casa. A bit far though. A question for the forum. Where are the mango dancers in Colombia. Are there some in Cali?
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The only Mangos I have seen mentioned is in Medellin
Mangos is a night club in Medellin, so you will generally only find the dancers there, although sometimes they are hired by people like the Medellin Mansion to put on a show.
Hunter
I met a hooker in Mexico City who had something similar happen to her, only at the end of it they stabbed her a few times and left her for dead on the side of the road. When in Colombia (except Cartagena) or Mexico City I have done as recommended here, fake a call to someone with info about the taxi/taxista.
[QUOTE=Artful]They took everything off me. I had my wallet with me so they politely asked me for my PIN numbers which, considering the gun pointed at my neck, I gave them. So we spent the next couple of hours driving from ATM to ATM, withdrawing as much money as they could. Finally they reached my card limits and, miracle of miracles, they drove to some abandonded area of Cali and let me go.
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Correct!
Ho bath: The act of washing the armpits, vagina, and buttcrack at a water source that is not a bathtub or shower. Usually done after a prositute finishes with a client.
[QUOTE=Routard]Let me guess: washing only her pussy...[/QUOTE]
A third mistake was having your wallet with you with cards! Whenever I travel I leave everything (passport wallet and contents) in the safe (if there is one; if not I find a hiding place) where I am staying. I only venture around with a laminated copy of my passport reduced to ID card size, and the money that I plan on spending at that particular moment that I am away from the "home base", both held together with a rubber band.
[QUOTE=Artful]I was in Cali one year ago. Didn't care too much for the town and had a very bad experience:
They took everything off me. I had my wallet with me so they politely asked me for my PIN numbers which, considering the gun pointed at my neck, I gave them. So we spent the next couple of hours driving from ATM to ATM, withdrawing as much money as they could.
A pretty unpleasant experience, but let's be clear about one thing: I was a complete fool. I left a club at 2am alone and I stumbled into a taxi without checking its credentials. So, two big mistakes and I paid the price. The point is though, that Cali, in fact Colombia as a whole, as much as love the place, is a place where you can't afford to let your guard slip. It's not ready for mainstream tourism.
My general advice: don't go there if you can't speak Spanish, and if you can ALWAYS ALWAYS keep your guard up.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hunter]No 100% safe way, you can telephone for one, or take a cab from a line of taxis.
Hunter[/QUOTE]
Usually a cab from a STATION is safer than a cab just passing by. It is a good idea to look in the yellow pages for " ESTACIONES DE TAXIS", and pick up the one with the biggest ad.
Normally that would be a well known, well established, safe station to call a cab from.
Also major Hotels have a cab station right next to it. And if picked from the station, you have a pretty good chance that cab will be safe. Peter.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]A third mistake was having your wallet with you with cards! Whenever I travel I leave everything (passport wallet and contents) in the safe (if there is one; if not I find a hiding place) where I am staying. I only venture around with a laminated copy of my passport reduced to ID card size, and the money that I plan on spending at that particular moment that I am away from the "home base", both held together with a rubber band.[/QUOTE]
That is 100% correct, or better yet a second "dummy wallet" with what Mr. enternational says. Hey if you get robbed you only loses a few pesos. Also leave the god damm Rolex back in the states also......
for e.g. I was at Pharaohs last thu night and the place was filled to the brim with young Colombianos, including kids. I felt like I was at a Colombian Porkys. They were happily getting drunk and generally acting like the people did in the movie Porkys.
the quick turnaround times is what really gives me the heevie jeevies. Even at a crowded Rio termas, itll be more than an hour before shes done with someone, showered and ready again (though that gives me heevies as well)
Now lets consider a typical Cali casa environment, and consider that many of these guys go in there for 20, 30 minutes. I joke to the girls that I am not a fucking rabbit (they laugh) Considering that the entire environment isnt exactly super hygienic to being with (consider the rooms for starters and how she washes up) it becomes a little scary to think about.
all that, and with it mostly (you can talk her out of it, but thats the standard) a covered galosh blowjob?
I suppose it works as purely a necessary blueball release but even then I have my doubts.
your average US ghetto streetwalker doesnt do that many tricks on a given night, shell do enough to get money for her drug habit and then sheff of the street until the following night and the high wears off.
so maybe someone will have to explain to me why they shell out a minimum of a thousand dollars (for starters) to fly out somewhere and stick ones dick into a hole that has been massively stretched that particular day and others only for (what some people refer to) 2000 pennies.
it strikes me as more than a little pathetic, though this isnt a judgment, (to each their own), merely my personal opinion.
maybe Im simply not looking at this correctly in which case, perhaps someone can explain it to me?
[QUOTE=Catire]for e.g. I was at Pharaohs last thu night and the place was filled to the brim with young Colombianos, including kids. I felt like I was at a Colombian Porkys. They were happily getting drunk and generally acting like the people did in the movie Porkys.
the quick turnaround times is what really gives me the heevie jeevies. Even at a crowded Rio termas, itll be more than an hour before shes done with someone, showered and ready again (though that gives me heevies as well)
Now lets consider a typical Cali casa environment, and consider that many of these guys go in there for 20, 30 minutes. I joke to the girls that I am not a fucking rabbit (they laugh) Considering that the entire environment isnt exactly super hygienic to being with (consider the rooms for starters and how she washes up) it becomes a little scary to think about.
all that, and with it mostly (you can talk her out of it, but thats the standard) a covered galosh blowjob?
I suppose it works as purely a necessary blueball release but even then I have my doubts.
your average US ghetto streetwalker doesnt do that many tricks on a given night, shell do enough to get money for her drug habit and then sheff of the street until the following night and the high wears off.
so maybe someone will have to explain to me why they shell out a minimum of a thousand dollars (for starters) to fly out somewhere and stick ones dick into a hole that has been massively stretched that particular day and others only for (what some people refer to) 2000 pennies.
it strikes me as more than a little pathetic, though this isnt a judgment, (to each their own), merely my personal opinion.
maybe Im simply not looking at this correctly in which case, perhaps someone can explain it to me?[/QUOTE]
We enjoy travelling and the sex is a bonus.... when I go to a restaraunt I don't think how many people have used the knife and fork before me....
sure I can stay in NY and just buy 5 hours of a 400-600 an hour top *****.... or I can get away relax and spend a lot more than 5 hours in the sack....
[quote=escort king]we enjoy travelling and the sex is a bonus.... when i go to a restaraunt i don't think how many people have used the knife and fork before me....
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you enjoy "traveling" to a place like cali and sex is a bonus? what else do you do in cali? particularly given that so called casa crawling will have to be a daytime activity given their operating hours.
sure there are the late night streetwalkers along sexta, but considering that most are clearly **** that´s something that shouldn´t interest anyone either.
re your restaurant analogy, perhaps a better one would be to consider how many have stuck their forks and masticated over that piece of food or meat, etc before you have. the same piece of meat, mind you.
[quote=escort king]we enjoy travelling and the sex is a bonus.... when i go to a restaraunt i don't think how many people have used the knife and fork before me......[/quote]you enjoy "traveling" to a place like cali and sex is a bonus? what else do you do in cali? particularly given that so called casa crawling will have to be a daytime activity given their operating hours.
sure there are the late night streetwalkers along sexta, but considering that most are clearly **** that's something that shouldn't interest anyone either.
re your restaurant analogy, perhaps a better one would be to consider how many have stuck their forks and masticated over that piece of food or meat, etc before you have. the same piece of meat, mind you.
re pricing, i am actually all for paying the going rate, and i despise gringo pricing with a passion and refuse to pay it, and though i also strongly believe that in terms of p4p quality is not related to price paid, when you take eveything into account, it's no wonder people are pricing at these places is what it is. however, it's not super cheap by local standards considering an engineer here will be making 600-700 us a month.
the biggest problem is actually the fact that these places are directed at a local market, which tends to have a madonna complex when it comes to their dealing with women and for whom a 20 minute stick my dick into a hole experience is satisfactory.
it's almost like going to a gay turkish bath with little holes in the walls (not that i've ever been in such a place hahahahahah)
[quote=catire]you enjoy "traveling" to a place like cali and sex is a bonus? what else do you do in cali? particularly given that so called casa crawling will have to be a daytime activity given their operating hours.
sure there are the late night streetwalkers along sexta, but considering that most are clearly **** that´s something that shouldn´t interest anyone either.
re your restaurant analogy, perhaps a better one would be to consider how many have stuck their forks and masticated over that piece of food or meat, etc before you have. the same piece of meat, mind you.[/quote]
that's funny, enjoy traveling and sex is a bonus. i doubt you'd choose colombia just to "travel" to if not for the available sex.
get a grip amigo.
i second that. i saw the streetwalkers along la sexta when i was going to the discos. they were extremely ****. no question about it. and i hear that they are very dangerous as well. i saw the same thing in barranquilla. so am i to take it that it is a normal occurence?
[quote=catire]you enjoy "traveling" to a place like cali and sex is a bonus? sure there are the late night streetwalkers along sexta, but considering that most are clearly **** that´s something that shouldn´t interest anyone either.[/quote]
I dont get it? Eating out and you dont know who has used the Knife and fork before you? Sex is a Bonus? Sounds like you are in Denial, Cali is nice but then again so is Orlando, but Orlando is for Kids and Cali is for Mongers.
[QUOTE=Jchipper]I dont get it? Eating out and you dont know who has used the Knife and fork before you? Sex is a Bonus? Sounds like you are in Denial, Cali is nice but then again so is Orlando, but Orlando is for Kids and Cali is for Mongers.[/QUOTE]
hey I am definitely traveling for the sex... but the places have to have something going for them beyond that - otherwise I could just take the time off and order in hookers at home
[QUOTE=Escort King]hey I am definitely traveling for the sex... but the places have to have something going for them beyond that - otherwise I could just take the time off and order in hookers at home[/QUOTE]
I will take you word at that, and I would agree with your sentiment, as I am sure most would, but I am curious what besides it you think Cali would offer.
Clearly its not a touristy place at all and there is frankly little to see and do in terms of vacationing tourist activities.
most of the tourists there are either idiots who are looking for "true love" thru the myriad of marriage agencies in the city (what a joke that is) or the so called "monger" crowd and throw in your occasional business type in town passing.
btw, I stopped by one of the casas last night, but merely for a drink passing thru (and to check out some of the girls, they actually have several real "lookers" IMHO) and chatted up one of the girls. She informed me with a chuckle that indeed the vast majority of the customers opt for the 20 minute option. Sad.
I was passing there, on way back from the so called Flores Frescas (Fresh Flowers) where what I saw was so boring, unimaginative and comical the place should be renamed Flores Marchitas (which if I remember correctly means Wilted Flowers). I understand the place has long lost any "reknown" and isnt recommended but I figured Id swing by to check it out at least once.
what a complete joke.
personally I actually think Cali has many things going for it, but itd be difficult to hail it as a real vacation destination.
Midnight had already passed away when I decided to try my luck on that Friday’s night.
So I took my favourite blue pill, and left my hotel to jump in a taxi asking him to take me to the Faroah.
On the way, he asked me if I knew the Faroah club, and I said yes and why? He then told me that he knew a much better place with better girls and better rooms close form Faroah.
As I remembered that my last stay in Faroah had not been so good, I said ok, let’s try your place.
He left me in front of a house with a guard outside at Calle 25N 2bis-47.
I entered the house and the guy in charge proposed me a drink (no thanks) and to see the girls (yes! ).
He gave me the prices 70K for 30’ and 100K for an hour.
I was introduced to 15 girls and saw 2 to 3 doable (slim).
I choose Jimena, a tall (1, 65m), very slim, brunette with long hairs and a pretty face who claimed to come from Pereira.
She came with me, sat and I asked her what she would do.
The answer was sad. Normal.
BBBJ? No, Anal? No, may I suck your pussy? Why not.
As it was already late and that girl was really nice looking, I decided to try her. The guy asked me for how long I wanted Jimena, and we agreed that I’d pay for an hour, but if I would left in 30’, he would gave me my 30K back.
Jimena left me to take her working bag and I followed her when she returned till the room.
Rooms were not bad (for this kind of place), they had an outside window, good light, a shower (with cold water), a bathroom, a tv, .
The bed was ok but I don’t think that they change sheets after each activity (but I’m use to this and don’t pay care anymore).
Jimena asked me to start with a (cold) shower, and I said ok.
As the water was really cold to me, I was not able to play under the shower with Jimena.
We then went to the bed and I started exploring her lovely pussy, Of course, my tongue went a little further and I suck her ass as well and she didn’t protest. Meanwhile, she was giving me a very poor HJ, and I tried 3 times to explain her how to do it better, but she was not very interested.
After a few minutes, she covered me and we started a nice 69.
Unfortunately, her oral technique was not very good neither, and with the condom I just hardly felt something.
She left me finger a little bit her ass and then protested, as she had told me before that she wouldn’t do anal, I didn’t insist.
Then I changed position and entered her from behind lying on our side.
While I was doing her, she left me finger her clit, but she was not very demonstrative and I decided to end the session and came quite fast.
While I was coming, she tried to tighten her pussy to increase my pleasure, but then again, it was not well done.
We then showered again, got dressed up and I left, while she had to clean the room. She asked me to tip her, and I said no.
I then stop a taxi and went back to my hotel.
It was really a pity that such a good looking girl act so poorly.
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He isn't planning on going to Cali, but Medellin. If you go to the Medellin reports, you will see he has being saying that for quite some time. He just seems to post all over the place.
[QUOTE=Catire]I will take you word at that, and I would agree with your sentiment, as I am sure most would, but I am curious what besides it you think Cali would offer.
Clearly its not a touristy place at all and there is frankly little to see and do in terms of vacationing tourist activities.
most of the tourists there are either idiots who are looking for "true love" thru the myriad of marriage agencies in the city (what a joke that is) or the so called "monger" crowd and throw in your occasional business type in town passing.
btw, I stopped by one of the casas last night, but merely for a drink passing thru (and to check out some of the girls, they actually have several real "lookers" IMHO) and chatted up one of the girls. She informed me with a chuckle that indeed the vast majority of the customers opt for the 20 minute option. Sad.
I was passing there, on way back from the so called Flores Frescas (Fresh Flowers) where what I saw was so boring, unimaginative and comical the place should be renamed Flores Marchitas (which if I remember correctly means Wilted Flowers). I understand the place has long lost any "reknown" and isnt recommended but I figured Id swing by to check it out at least once.
what a complete joke.
personally I actually think Cali has many things going for it, but itd be difficult to hail it as a real vacation destination.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Meister]Nice post.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I've read here that Escort King hasn't even been to Colombia, let alone Cali. If I'm mistaken please forgive me, but if I'm not, I find it odd that he would even make a comment on this thread if he hasn't been there.[/QUOTE]
No I am there next Friday.... and my comment was about traveling and mongering in general.... I like to travel to other places... I like the sex at most of them.... this will be my first trip to Colombia but have mongered in a lot of countries...
being to a specific place before posting would limit the community
dude with all due respect.
you are in a place that is built and runs along the lines of 20 minute, poke a hole, shoot, where the overwhelming majority of the clientele is local, tends to have a Madonna/ho complex when it comes to women and P4P and this is how they like things. (and for some it´s all they can afford)
so the overwhelming majority of these girls in such places WILL "act poorly". There is little to no incentive for them to act OTHERWISE.
in places like Rio and Bangkok and some other places there IS incentive for them to act otherwise, since the clientele is foreign, pays more, and that´s what the clientele wants, not to mention they can sometimes reel in a "BOYFRIEND" who stupidly sends them money regularly or even from time to time.
[QUOTE=Catire]so the overwhelming majority of these girls in such places WILL "act poorly". There is little to no incentive for them to act OTHERWISE.
in places like Rio and Bangkok and some other places there IS incentive for them to act otherwise, since the clientele is foreign, pays more, and that´s what the clientele wants, not to mention they can sometimes reel in a "BOYFRIEND" who stupidly sends them money regularly or even from time to time.[/QUOTE]To me it's good to have the GFE or at least someone that is the least bit sociable or is good at acting like they are enjoying themselves. All in all, that is why I have to give Bangkok the #1 spot as far as the mongering scene. #2 I give to Rio. Bangkok is first because the magnitude of the scence there is just astronomical, whereas Rio is really just Help, a couple of termas, and Meia Pataca. I do, however, tell people that once you have been to Rio in the western hemisphere and Bangkok in the eastern hemisphere there is no reason to go anywhere else. You will only be cheating yourself and wasting your time and money.
I think the worst placethat I have mongered is Guyaquill. The first two girls I had were drop dead gorgeous. But the first one just layed there not moving with a blank stare on her face. I said fuck it, just keep the money, I am leaving. The second one did not want to take her shirt off and insisted on playing with her cellphone the whole time I was trying to fuck. We pretty much argued the whole time. Then I moved to some work that was bottom of the barrel and things got a little better. I have had the same experience in Colombia, where it is very mechanical and the girl wants to be in total control of everything to your dissatisfaction...eg. no doggy style, no bj, you can not push inside of me that far...
[QUOTE=Kdogg21]He isn't planning on going to Cali, but Medellin. If you go to the Medellin reports, you will see he has being saying that for quite some time. He just seems to post all over the place.[/QUOTE]
Yes I have been talking about going to Medellin for over a year now... but in that time have been to the DR twice and Amsterdam once... played in London and NY, Miami, Chicago and California...
Apart from the trip to Colombia next Friday I am back in London, and have two trips to France before the end of the year.
I am an active monger, just because I have not been to Colombia yet does not mean I do not have opinions of general conversation.... guess my trip report from next week will be as well read as my comments....
there are a few people on the boards here that know me... I don't need anyone's approval - I ask questions when I need to an help where I can.
i know matrix and other internet places in cali are cheap, but if you need to use your own computer, then these places are difficult to use at best. here is a free high speed wireless option i found near sexta (the only free wireless in cali according to [url]www.jiwire.com[/url]):
blue amigos restaurant, cafe & bar
calle 15n. 6n-33
cali
location type: restaurant
802.11b wi-fi
([url]http://www.jiwire.com/search-wifi-hotspots.htm?city_id=3453300[/url])
i haven't tried it yet, so i can't comment on the quality of the signal or if it really is free.
and based on your list clearly know almost nothing about screwing around in the developing world. It´s quite different, or can be quite different and frankly it´s that difference that makes the lure for guys who refuse to play, even though many can afford to in the developed world.
the handle is a giveaway too. Escorts? haha.
well, I wish you luck.
Mr. E - it IS possible to get a get over the hump and get a GFE or something approaching that, or just a good professional but raunchy Brazilian style experience in Colombia and most other places. However, it does take a little work, a little luck and a little perserverance. (you can even get a nice experience with a casa girl though the environment makes that very challenging)
that´s why it´s so funny to hear these complaints from people who refuse to put in any of the above and merely whine. (not to mention some might look and or act like complete trolls)
the most fascinating thing about a place like Cali is that in these semi nasty stick and poke assembly line mills you hve young often beautiful girls, whereas in most other places you´re stuck with old fugly hags.
for me the youth and beauty cannot quite overcome the assembly line experience, I´d rather have a great session with a willing 6, than a starfish experience with a 9.
clearly some people feel differently.
[QUOTE=Catire]and based on your list clearly know almost nothing about screwing around in the developing world. It´s quite different, or can be quite different and frankly it´s that difference that makes the lure for guys who refuse to play, even though many can afford to in the developed world.
the handle is a giveaway too. Escorts? haha.
well, I wish you luck.
Mr. E - it IS possible to get a get over the hump and get a GFE or something approaching that, or just a good professional but raunchy Brazilian style experience in Colombia and most other places. However, it does take a little work, a little luck and a little perserverance. (you can even get a nice experience with a casa girl though the environment makes that very challenging)
that´s why it´s so funny to hear these complaints from people who refuse to put in any of the above and merely whine. (not to mention some might look and or act like complete trolls)
the most fascinating thing about a place like Cali is that in these semi nasty stick and poke assembly line mills you hve young often beautiful girls, whereas in most other places you´re stuck with old fugly hags.
for me the youth and beauty cannot quite overcome the assembly line experience, I´d rather have a great session with a willing 6, than a starfish experience with a 9.
clearly some people feel differently.[/QUOTE]
Escort King is the screenname I had when I first started on monger boards which were US based... though I soon found WSG et al and have posted there over the years.
Have worked in the adult industry, traveled alot through southeast asia, the pacific when growing up in Australia....
I have been posting in the Colombian threads as it has been a spot I knew I was visiting in the near future.... wanted to develop some online acquaintences that I may have seen while there... and thought the threads were generally friendly... have not been involved in flames... have given my opinion on few things, rather asked questions or praise or jokes....
You've become quite the expert on Cali after your first trip.
We lose one Colombia know-it-all and he is replaced by another.
All, I just got back from a week in Cali and thought I'd post my experiences.
The spots I hit:
- escoses(sp?)- went at night, left after an hour. Lots of Women, prices were, I believe: 150k for 30 min, 250k for 1 hour. ~ 30 ladies, a few 10s.
- Frescas Flores (fresh flowers) - lots of fine (and "fake") babes, boob jobs etc. most expensive: 200k for 30 min, 300k for 1 hour. Their main offering is a lesbian sex show 2-3 times a night. All the guys were so focused during the show, you probably could have taken their wallets and no one would have noticed! They also charged a cover, about 15k, I believe. Left there early, headed to.
- pharos - crowd from fresh flowers seemed to follow us there. Seemed livelier. about 20 or so girls. You could see the degradation in quality (and prices) compared to fresh flowers. Rooms were less clean. Better "party" atmosphere. The ladies would dance with/for you, seemed more into the clientele. Only place I've seen where there were legitimate "dogs" that worked there.
- Casa de Docto de Amor - yep, liked this place. Closes at 9pm or so. Clean rooms, reasonable prices; about $12.50 (U.S. cost, though paid in pesos) for 30 min.
- Went to a place listed in the forum here. There were 5 girls there, they were sleeping. The manager gave us the name of another place close by. Told us to go there, and come back to his place after 6pm. I don't recall the address/name of the other place. It was a house and only had 5 girls there. But, they were all nice looking and very friendly. price was 70k for 30 minutes, 100k for 1 hour.
- Hit about 3-4 others, don't recall their names.
Restaurants:
- Sol (?) - great fried calimari
- Tizones (sp) - great Italian Food
Couple of other notes;
- We hit Jala Jala, damn the music is loud in these places! We were treated like VIPS. We left to eat, came back an hour later and our booth was held for us, even though the place was packed!
- River Ponces - visited on Sunday, seems like a big hangout for the locals. Not much to see compared to other beaches I've been to worldwide, but something to do.
- Malls - hit Chipe Chape (sp), and Cosmo Centro - interesting places. Great to "girl watch".
- Trying to talk to the ladies on the street was more difficult than I expected. When I'd speak, they just kept focused looking ahead.
Have others noticed this as well?
Same with those walking in the malls. The best shots we had at talking to the locals were: ladies at a bar, ones that worked in the stores/restaurants. Also, if I had a legitimate "ice breaker" question, like "where is so and so place located?" it's be easier to strike up a conversation.
- Also, we were told to be careful talking to ladies that had one or more guys with them as the guys could try to cause trouble. In Jala Jala, there were virtually NO ladies by themselves, or in a group with no guys. So, we were less apt to approach them. Based on what I've read by others, we may have been a bit more paranoid than need be.
- I'm not a fan of Colombian beer, but I could tolerate Brava (and sometimes Poker).
- Getting out of Columbia was an experience! We hit, I'd guess, about 9 "checkpoints". Answered every question you could imagine: "do you have a girlfriend? Why not? Why are you here? One of our group also got a "modern-day cavity search": they x-rayed his stomach, I guess to see if he had swallowed any "contraband".
Overall:
- Had a good time. It's best if you speak some spanish, no question. The people are some of the nicest I've encountered in my travels. We had no problems. When you connect with a Chica the experience is wonderful, usually better, more genuine with a non-pro.
If others are interested in the specific places I mentioned but don't recall, PM me and I'll try and get the details to you.
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[QUOTE=Escort King]Escort King is the screenname I had when I first started on monger boards which were US based... though I soon found WSG et al and have posted there over the years.
Have worked in the adult industry, traveled alot through southeast asia, the pacific when growing up in Australia....
I have been posting in the Colombian threads as it has been a spot I knew I was visiting in the near future.... wanted to develop some online acquaintences that I may have seen while there... and thought the threads were generally friendly... have not been involved in flames... have given my opinion on few things, rather asked questions or praise or jokes....[/QUOTE]
I bear you no ill will and hope you find what you are looking for, though it is my definite opinion you are wading into completely uncharted waters based on what you are used to and also, I hate to be frank, but it´s the likes of you who generally screw up a heretofore friendly developing world P4P environment.
let me guess, your first stop in MDG will be the so called "mansion", created uniquely for your type of ahem "traveler", and typically a bane of destruction for the favorable P4P environment first discovered by travelers in the last decade in these countries.
in other friendly local news, today´s El Pais has the Colombian Minister of Defense saying that FARC after their failures in and around Bogota, has now set their eyes on Cali, but swears the govt will not allow them to establish a foothold here. Perhaps the FARC can blow up the so called Cali Mansion when it´s built
in other news of note, if you´re a calena university student with English skills there are lots of ads for you to make good money (by local standards) by video chatting to idiot extranjeros.
[QUOTE=Catire]For me the youth and beauty cannot quite overcome the assembly line experience, I´d rather have a great session with a willing 6, than a starfish experience with a 9.[/QUOTE]Hi Catire, I agree 1000% with that.
Problem is, how do you know if this 6 is good or not ?
I´ve been looking thru this Cali's board and couldn´t find much information on girls.
Now, imagine you go with a 6 (or 5, or worse) and it goes badly.
You then have a double disillusion.
That's why most people want to have a good looking partner.+
In recent months, I've tried to catch smiling girlS and had good and bad experiences.
Unfortunatly, in Colombia, we don't have a girls's speaking board. (see my precedent post).
Thanks
[QUOTE=Catire]I bear you no ill will and hope you find what you are looking for, though it is my definite opinion you are wading into completely uncharted waters based on what you are used to and also, I hate to be frank, but it´s the likes of you who generally screw up a heretofore friendly developing world P4P environment.
let me guess, your first stop in MDG will be the so called "mansion", created uniquely for your type of ahem "traveler", and typically a bane of destruction for the favorable P4P environment first discovered by travelers in the last decade in these countries.
in other friendly local news, today´s El Pais has the Colombian Minister of Defense saying that FARC after their failures in and around Bogota, has now set their eyes on Cali, but swears the govt will not allow them to establish a foothold here. Perhaps the FARC can blow up the so called Cali Mansion when it´s built
in other news of note, if you´re a calena university student with English skills there are lots of ads for you to make good money (by local standards) by video chatting to idiot extranjeros.[/QUOTE]
mate I was visiting Bali and Thailand 28 years ago.. and I was not an ugly American.... but an Australian having fun... did not grow up in US but a country where p4p is legal....
[QUOTE=Escort King]and I was not an ugly American....but an Australian having fun [/QUOTE]
Aaahhhg! What's the difference? They hate you in Indonesia and they hate us in Latin America. And we both have some paisanos that are loud and obnoxious.
[QUOTE=Tiny 12]Aaahhhg! What's the difference? They hate you in Indonesia and they hate us in Latin America. And we both have some paisanos that are loud and obnoxious.[/QUOTE]
Australians can be loud drunks but few have the we own the natives attitude that some Americans bring with them... like the old vision of third world countries in Disney comics... all canibals and servants
[QUOTE=Catire]
let me guess, your first stop in MDG will be the so called "mansion", created uniquely for your type of ahem "traveler", and typically a bane of destruction for the favorable P4P environment first discovered by travelers in the last decade in these countries.
[/QUOTE]
I was enjoying these offerings in Bali and Thailand long before they became the meccas for the trade... though SE Asia has been in this trade a lot longer than I have been around... the pricing stayed low for a lot of years until the numbers grew to such high numbers that they could start asking more and find enough to pay it... I may not pay the least... but I generally don't overpay - I stick with what has been posted as the going rates and use that as my goal... sometimes I get lower and others if the chica is really hot will pay a little more - especially if she has gotten good reviews by people I trust...
And yes I will make my first stop at the Mansion - best place to hook with others since I am making my trip solo with just a little Spanish.
[QUOTE=Col Bog 1]Hi Catire, I agree 1000% with that.
Problem is, how do you know if this 6 is good or not ?
I´ve been looking thru this Cali's board and couldn´t find much information on girls.
Now, imagine you go with a 6 (or 5, or worse) and it goes badly.
You then have a double disillusion.
That's why most people want to have a good looking partner.+
In recent months, I've tried to catch smiling girlS and had good and bad experiences.
Unfortunatly, in Colombia, we don't have a girls's speaking board. (see my precedent post).
Thanks[/QUOTE]
the thing is in the world of P4P you rarely know (for sure).
that is because in this "line of work" one´s personal problems and moods are reflected more so than in any other profession. She might be in a bad mood, she might be pmsing, she might have had a fight with her bf or her family or god knows what, and this WILL be reflected in her human interaction with YOU.
then of course there is what you bring into the equation, this also changes the calibrations. A john is not like the next john (even among the local masses pining for 20 mins to stick something into a hole). Your looks and your demeanor and personality DO and WILL matter.
then out of that entire mixture, you will get what you get. it´s as simple as that and nothing can really change it.
that is why I take all "rankings", of girls and forums dealing with such with a MOUNTAIN OF SALT. That´s because they are essentially good for nothing and I basically deem them useless ( as well as somewhat demeaning to the girl - perhaps they should be able to write rankings of their johns as well?)
since you claim your looks are a potential problem (or at least not a helping factor) then you must focus on the personality aspect. You can also work on your charm, this is essentially a combination of being a little clever and paying her compliments (without being too obvious) This is perhaps even more important (though it all depends on the girl). Since you talk about the sexycaracas foro, you must speak at least basic Spanish, and actually since that forum is full of Venezuelan slang, (I spent some time living in Caracas) your understanding of it has to be better than beginner I assume?
but that is not going to work with an "escort" and will be difficult with a casa girl.
in your case I would recommend a place like Escoces, which is a clip joint, BUT, can be a lot of fun and lot less of a clip joint if you follow the "Ricker approach" and recommendations which are actually common sense and should be a modus operandi in any such place worldwide.
nortelx, I know what I know and this is a fairly long stay (and I am still here)
when you learn Spanish and have lived and traveled around Latin America as I have come back and talk shit to me. Otherwise, you are of course always entitled to your own opinions.
[QUOTE=Catire]
... in your case I would recommend a place like Escoces, which is a clip joint, BUT, can be a lot of fun and lot less of a clip joint if you follow the "Ricker approach" and recommendations which are actually common sense and should be a modus operandi in any such place worldwide ...
[/QUOTE]
Escoces can be a great place if you can weed through the "tiburones" (sharks) and find the nice sweet chicas; they can be found there.
Sit with a chica, bond with her, make her laugh, pay the multa, I think it's only 40,000 pesos, and take her out. If you can get away with it, don't even talk price with her. If she doesn't talk about money, she probably likes you, obvious good sign :)
That's my Escoces strategy in a nutshell.
Paying 150-200,000 pesos for 30 minutes in-house ... hahaha ... nunca (never).
[QUOTE=Ricker]Escoces can be a great place if you can weed through the "tiburones" (sharks) and find the nice sweet chicas; they can be found there.
Sit with a chica, bond with her, make her laugh, pay the multa, I think it's only 40,000 pesos, and take her out. If you can get away with it, don't even talk price with her. If she doesn't talk about money, she probably likes you, obvious good sign :)
That's my Escoces strategy in a nutshell.
Paying 150-200,000 pesos for 30 minutes in-house ... hahaha ... nunca (never).[/QUOTE]
if you stay until they nearly close, then there is no multa/salida to pay.
most will try to charge you say 200K, or 150 for 2 hours but you can get them for a 100 if she needs it/likes you.
the tiburones are fairly easy to spot.
hey, Ricker, if you´re still here, call me.
btw. quote from Escoces girl the other week about most of her customers.
que tristesa (what sadness). She went on to add some stuff beyond that which I forgot but I was chuckling all night.
She was mostly talking about Americans, and she went on to further categorize them by a certain ethnic background.
Said they have an automated hammer approach to lovemaking and "nunca terminan".
that was funny too.
looks like someone´s been watching too many of the Jake Steed/TTBoy etc Latin porn movies and they think these women actually love being drilled senseless.
Catire, I sent you a PM amigo.
I'll be in Cali again on Thursday :)
[QUOTE=Catire]if you stay until they nearly close, then there is no multa/salida to pay.
most will try to charge you say 200K, or 150 for 2 hours but you can get them for a 100 if she needs it/likes you.
the tiburones are fairly easy to spot.
hey, Ricker, if you´re still here, call me.
btw. quote from Escoces girl the other week about most of her customers.
que tristesa (what sadness). She went on to add some stuff beyond that which I forgot but I was chuckling all night.
She was mostly talking about Americans, and she went on to further categorize them by a certain ethnic background.
Said they have an automated hammer approach to lovemaking and "nunca terminan".
that was funny too.
looks like someone´s been watching too many of the Jake Steed/TTBoy etc Latin porn movies and they think these women actually love being drilled senseless.[/QUOTE]
One thing I have noticed about Latin women - in DR and Mexico - though less in Mexico - they get offended when you don't cum... they always want the leche
Gents,
A week in Cali does a monger good. It also makes for alot of make up reading upon return since I don't bother with the boards while on vacation anymore.
It behooves me to to add a comment on the Cali Reports since I am just back from one of the most successful trips to Cali to date.
I decided to seek out and find new unchartered P4P places and found three new ones that more than satisfied me. One had real hardworking girls giving BBBJ and ball licking as regular service rather than the exception. The other had hot and cold running water (a rarity a P4P places) and the facilities were exceptionally clean and the above average girls surprisingly were not used to seeing a gringos. I had never had girls be so friendly and such a fast pace as well.
I'M SORRY GENTS, but because of the rapid degradation of places I write about by disrespecting *******es, I have reserves about being blatant as to the locations my new found digs. Oh sure anyone else can find them with some due diligence and so they won't remain fairly unknown for long but I don't see the need to bring them to light sooner than not.
However, as anything in life, there are exceptions and since my good friend Ricker mentions that he will returning to Cali soon I will be happy to share the info with him since he did me the same favor once before. So PM me Ricker if think you'll have time to pull yourself away from your novia to thread some new waters.
Ok, I do feel bad that I am not being so open so I will tell you that I also visited a few favorite haunts and also found some top choice chamas.
I still will not be posting in the photo section but I'll share with you here a WILD girl I met at LA Piscina from Armenia. Her name is Melissa.
I didn't even ask Melissa to take her picture before she asked me when she saw I had a camera and she wanted to be shot doing her strip routine. Got some decent video as well.
I decided to try out Melissa and found her to be a lot less energetic than her performance on stage. Still it was a treat to enjoy her large natural breasts and this was the first time I was ever with a girl who had areolas but almost no nipples??? Wow does she have a hot body and cute face to match. She is the closest thing I have found to a Brigitte Bardot look alike.
Again, sorry that I have such reserves about sharing but like I said, the locations will be revealed sooner than later.
Cheers,
Cubanut
Does anybody have any other details?
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'Sexy' Latina site entrepreneur slain By FRANK BAJAK, Associated Press Writer
Sun Apr 1, 1:09 AM ET
BOGOTA, Colombia - An American entrepreneur who introduced foreign men to "young, sexy, exotic and beautiful Latin Women" via the Internet was killed in the western city of Cali by gunmen on a motorcycle, police said Saturday.
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Robert Marshall Vignola, 50, of Hamden, Conn., says on the Web site [url]http://www.latinwomenconnection.com[/url] that he founded the Cali, Colombia-based company in 1999. The site says the company "has assisted hundreds of clients in the search for the Latin Woman of their dreams."
In addition to offering contact with women pictured in bikinis for $20 each, the Web site promoted vacation packages to Cali including a "private tour" accompanied by Vignola for $600 per day plus airfare.
The site also sold a book penned by Vignola entitled "Secrets of Romancing Latin Women." It describes Latin females as "the type of women that make a man's heart race, blood boil and libido accelerate into overdrive."
Vignola was shot and killed Thursday night by two men on a motorcycle while driving to Cali's airport, police said. His 33-year-old Colombian wife, Beatriz Ramos, was hospitalized with bullet wounds in the shoulder.
Cali's police chief, Gen. Alberto Moore, told The Associated Press on Saturday that authorities did not know why he was killed but had ruled out robbery.
Cali, home to Colombia's dominant cocaine cartel in the 1990s, remains among the country's most violent cities.
In addition to the "matrimonial service," Vignola had a casino in Cali that went bankrupt, leaving him with considerable debts, Moore said. "So it's said that possibly people could have been demanding money, and he didn't pay and so they took this reprisal."
Moore said Vignola had financial problems in the United States but said he had no details.
Relatives of Vignola in Connecticut, where according to his personal Web site he practiced law and offered assistance in obtaining mortgages, would not comment.
"We're in mourning right now so please don't bother us," said a man who answered the phone at Vignola's father's home.
A friend of Vignola in Cali who spoke on condition he not be identified said Vignola only visited the city three or four times a year.
The Web site describes Vignola as its "former owner and original founder" and recounts how he met his wife in Colombia after deciding he had "almost no chance of finding the woman of my dreams here in the United States."
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AP Writer Carlos Gonzalez in Bogota contributed to this report.
If you must wake up in the U.S., its great to open your eyes and see that "Cube" has posted some pictures. Before I click on them, I can be guaranteed that they are of very high quality. God I would hate to travel with this guy, Our taste is so similar that I feel I have been to these places!
Hi people,
I just heard from a friend in Cali that some gringo died this week. Can someone confirm.
His name is Robert Vignola.
[QUOTE=Master Yoda]Hi people,
I just heard from a friend in Cali that some gringo died this week. Can someone confirm.
His name is Robert Vignola.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I read about this yesterday on MSNBC dot com. Sounds like it wasn't a random act of violence, although it usually isn't. It says here the guy charged $600 a day for his private tour, yet had "financial problems". I guess the moral of the story is, if you're going to run a business in South America, pay back your creditors in a timely fashion.
[url]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17893261/[/url]
Matchmaking American killed in Colombia
Man who ran site touting ‘sexy, exotic’ Latin women gunned down in street
BOGOTA, Colombia - An American entrepreneur who introduced foreign men to “young, sexy, exotic and beautiful Latin Women” via the Internet was killed in the western city of Cali by gunmen on a motorcycle, police said Saturday.
Robert Marshall Vignola, 50, of Hamden, Conn., claimed he created the Web site [url]www.latinwomenconnection.com[/url]. The Cali, Colombia-based company, in business since 1999, claimed it “has assisted hundreds of clients in the search for the Latin Woman of their dreams.”
In addition to offering contact with women pictured in bikinis for $20 each, the Web site promoted vacation packages to Cali including a “private tour” accompanied by Vignola for $600 per day plus airfare.
The site also sold a book penned by Vignola entitled “Secrets of Romancing Latin Women.” It describes Latin females as “the type of women that make a man’s heart race, blood boil and libido accelerate into overdrive.”
Vignola was shot and killed Thursday night by two men on a motorcycle while driving to Cali’s airport, police said. His 33-year-old Colombian wife, Beatriz Ramos, was hospitalized with bullet wounds in the shoulder.
Police rule out robbery
Cali’s police chief, Gen. Alberto Moore, told The Associated Press on Saturday that authorities did not know why he was killed but had ruled out robbery.
Cali, home to Colombia’s dominant cocaine cartel in the 1990s, remains among the country’s most violent cities.
In addition to the “matrimonial service,” Vignola had a casino in Cali that went bankrupt, leaving him with considerable debts, Moore said. “So it’s said that possibly people could have been demanding money, and he didn’t pay and so they took this reprisal.”
Moore said Vignola had financial problems in the United States but said he had no details.
Relatives of Vignola in Connecticut, where according to his personal Web site he practiced law and offered assistance in obtaining mortgages, would not comment.
“We’re in mourning right now so please don’t bother us,” said a man who answered the phone at Vignola’s father’s home.
A friend of Vignola in Cali who spoke on condition he not be identified said Vignola only visited the city three or four times a year.
Vignola’s personal testimonial on the Web, which describes him as its “former owner and original founder,” recounts how he met his wife in Colombia after deciding he had “almost no chance of finding the woman of my dreams here in the United States.”
[QUOTE=Barefoot Chap]Well I don't see any reason for me to go to Colombia anytime soon as there are so many Colombians here in the states. I found the best connection to colombians living in the states ever. Why go to colombia when colombia can come to you?[/QUOTE] We go there for the de-americanized latin women not the ones that could have been infected with the feminazi virus in America. Most of the Latin women in the US are americanized and wouldnt give an old gringo like me the time of day.
[QUOTE=Master Yoda]We go there for the de-americanized latin women not the ones that could have been infected with the feminazi virus in America. Most of the Latin women in the US are americanized and would give an old gringo like me the time of day.[/QUOTE]X2 what he said. Also because its hard not to have an adventure in Colombia!
I don't know Cali, but are there really that many gringos and other English-speaking sex tourists going there? Would naming a casa in Cali on ISG cause their business to increase by even 5%? I don't mean any disrespect Cubanut, you're one of the best contributors on this site. I don't tend to hang around fellow mongers when traveling, but outside of Laguito in Cartagena I haven't run across loads of sex tourists in Colombia.
[QUOTE=Cubanut] I'M SORRY GENTS, but because of the rapid degradation of places I write about by disrespecting *******es, I have reserves about being blatant as to the locations my new found digs. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tiny 12]I don't know Cali, but are there really that many gringos and other English-speaking sex tourists going there? Would naming a casa in Cali on ISG cause their business to increase by even 5%? I don't mean any disrespect Cubanut, you're one of the best contributors on this site. I don't tend to hang around fellow mongers when traveling, but outside of Laguito in Cartagena I haven't run across loads of sex tourists in Colombia.[/QUOTE]
I fully understand Cubanut. I would do the same. Why ? well definately because a lot do not know how to deal with real life in third world countries. Many gringos like to wave too much with the green bills. This creates problems for a lot of conscious travelers.
When you look (as for an example) to Cartagena. Prices overthere are completely messed up by tourists and crazy guys wasting big bucks on everything including whoes. That's why a regular fuck now costs about 5 - 6 times the price of a regular same fuck in another city in Colombia (not including the capital). Make your conclusions and deal with the fact you just dont pay prices different from real colombian men, living there and doing the same as you do on holiday in their country.
Use your brains and not your wallet. Then... ISG will be a better place for everyone. And people like Cubanut wont hesitate to tell where and how much.
There is no way I'm going to slam Cubanut, because he's added so much to this forum. But I've got news for you, ISG is a good place because people share information.
It's interesting you bring up Cartagena because (a) it's the only place in Colombia that I'm familiar with where extranjeros have had a significant effect on the price of poontang, and (b) it's the Europeans, like you, that are just as or more responsible for the high prices than gringos. Look at the Italians paying 400,000 pesos in LDV. You've got strong euros and you're spreading them around. I don't think you guys can rightfully blame pussy inflation entirely on us. In most of the places I visit, it's really not the fault of the Europeans or the gringos though. It's the locals, in Colombia the businessmen who are prospering under Uribe. Add to that inflation in Colombia and a weak dollar, and in USD terms, yes, poontang is more expensive.
Many Colombians, not just the hookers, are doing better than they were 5 or 10 years ago. That's a good thing, even if it does mean you're going to have to pay 10 euros more for a piece of ass.
[QUOTE=Cream on Top] Many gringos like to wave too much with the green bills. This creates problems for a lot of conscious travelers.
When you look (as for an example) to Cartagena. Prices overthere are completely messed up by tourists and crazy guys wasting big bucks on everything including whoes. [/QUOTE]
even though I generally feel gringoization of almost anything is BAD, the FACTS are that there are not all that many gringos in Cali, even in the north side zone around Sexta where they tend to stay.
I personally like almost NOTHING about the casas, they are low end brothels with high turnover, the big difference being that you will often find girls who look like you´d never find them in a brothel. But here the brothels are full of them. I´d love the places if I were 18 again, and it´s worth noting the large majority of the clientele in these places is probably 18-25 and they are Colombians. I have also noted before that the ambiance isn´t helpful and doesn´t tend to encourage good "performance" either, actually quite the contrary I think.
So comments like "gringos have ruined Cali casas and now all the blowjobs are covered" etc are frankly ERRONEOUS. The vast majority of the clientele is local, even in the gringo north side zones around Sexta. Even in the most popular gringo viisted casa, Clinica de Amor, the time I stuck my head in there, around 4 pm last week, there was maybe ONE gringo/extranjero in the place and the rest were Colombians. Even a place like Escoces, doesn´t see as many gringos as one might think, though it does see a lot of extranjeros.
the so called Piscina casa I was told by a taxista attracts a very bad element, and actually In have been told about a multitude of other casa and take out discotheques, etc etc that exist but have probably almost never seen a gringo, due to where there are located and due to the fact, you´d better have a local friend accompanying you if you go there.
so, I basically wanted to throw that in.
Yes, gringos are clowns and fools and usually destroy price structures, etc but they are not in any way shape or form driving the Cali casa market (which I am no fan of btw) nor are they responsible for the preponderance of covered BJs (one would think lots of govt public health warnings combined with dealing with yards of dick daily might drive a girl to consider it)
if anyone wants to post or withhold info, that´s their individual decision which I respect.
btw, I´ve been here several weeks and have yet to speak to a gringo (mostly by choice, but I also haven´t seen many, they all tend to be centered around the Don Jaime). The beautiful thing about Cali is you can completely fucking avoid them if you want to even in the Versalles zona.
[QUOTE=Tiny 12]There is no way I'm going to slam Cubanut, because he's added so much to this forum. But I've got news for you, ISG is a good place because people share information.
It's interesting you bring up Cartagena because (a) it's the only place in Colombia that I'm familiar with where extranjeros have had a significant effect on the price of poontang, and (b) it's the Europeans, like you, that are just as or more responsible for the high prices than gringos. Look at the Italians paying 400,000 pesos in LDV. You've got strong euros and you're spreading them around. I don't think you guys can rightfully blame pussy inflation entirely on us. In most of the places I visit, it's really not the fault of the Europeans or the gringos though. It's the locals, in Colombia the businessmen who are prospering under Uribe. Add to that inflation in Colombia and a weak dollar, and in USD terms, yes, poontang is more expensive.
Many Colombians, not just the hookers, are doing better than they were 5 or 10 years ago. That's a good thing, even if it does mean you're going to have to pay 10 euros more for a piece of ass.[/QUOTE]
ANY paying, and in good standing, rule abiding member of ISG, Has the right to share or withold ANY and all infomation on mongering to his/her disgretion. There in no written rule that it is mandatory to share information as being a member. Some people, many people just come here to lurk as selfish as it may sound to your ears. So its is CUBA'S right to divulge whatever he chooses too period.
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]ANY paying, and in good standing, rule abiding member of ISG, Has the right to share or withold ANY and all infomation on mongering to his/her disgretion. There in no written rule that it is mandatory to share information as being a member. Some people, many people just come here to lurk as selfish as it may sound to your ears. So its is CUBA'S right to divulge whatever he chooses too period.[/QUOTE] Uh yeah we kind of figured that.Keep up the good work Cnut....we'll take what we can get!
I agree with Cubanut 100%. If I was blessed to be in the same postion I would not share information. It is only human to want to boast & brag. However, when you share information it tends to multiply. It's great in marketing, but in travel it is troublesome.
I travel to get away. Away from New Jersey...away from the USA... Away from everything... That is what the core of a vacation is all about. Those of us that have truly traveled know this. I'm young and very new to this. However, I remember the SouthBeach (Miami), the DR and Ibiza of the of the 90's... I was there well before the cameras of E! & Travel Channel Cable shows. And now I refuse to return, because some assclown couldn't keep his f**king mouth shut. Now my utopias have been ruined by the tourist monster.
I love my new utopia too much. Excuse me for being a bit jealous and protective. But I'm sorry, I am keeping the little I know about Colombia to myself for awhile. I guess I am still an idealist and a romantic at heart.
Thanks for all of you insights, Cubanut. I appreciate your wisdom. I'm not hating, I get you brother and I concur.
If anyone has a great experience anywhere, but would rather not share it, I totally understand. Matter of fact, I have many such places. But why mention them? Simply say you went to Cali and had a good time. NO reason for (na-na-na-na-na). Just my thoughts. You can always PM a select few the info if you so desire.
[QUOTE=Fantasy]If anyone has a great experience anywhere, but would rather not share it, I totally understand. Matter of fact, I have many such places. But why mention them? Simply say you went to Cali and had a good time. NO reason for (na-na-na-na-na). Just my thoughts. You can always PM a select few the info if you so desire.[/QUOTE]
I totaly agree with your point,and was going to incoprorate your point in my prior rebuttle, WHY even bring it up then, its like waving a filet minon in front of rabid dogs. I guess he just wanted to for warn us of a well know policy, DONT ASK, DONT TELL! LOL
[QUOTE=Cubanut]
I'M SORRY GENTS, but because of the rapid degradation of places I write about by disrespecting *******es, I have reserves about being blatant as to the locations my new found digs. Oh sure anyone else can find them with some due diligence and so they won't remain fairly unknown for long but I don't see the need to bring them to light sooner than not.
Cheers,
Cubanut[/QUOTE]
Just an FYI- I did my due diligence of going to about 2 dozens locations I had not been to before. Everywhere I went I asked the management, the girls, taxi drivers and other locals if they knew of other P4P places. I then compared if I had been to the locations before and if not, I tried them out. I found some that actually were not bad but did not stand out because of lack luster attention by the staff/girls or poor or unclean facilities and of course the freaking cold water which is OK during the day when it's hot but sucks at night as it cools down.
I guess I should make it clear in statement I am quoted above to include saying that I am willing to share with those who also care to share. Let me make it even clearer I WILL SHARE WITH THOSE WILLING TO SHARE. Just as I shared the info of "The Secret Place" with others via PM, I am willing to share the info on the newest additions.
Say what you want about ones own concepts and visions while traveling the Cali P4P well traveled circuit and I will do the same. It just didn't sit well with me to find loud drunken idiots grabbing, jerking and ass slapping the girls disrespectfully in one place then finding totally sober idiots TIPPING the girls $20,000 cop to $50,000 cop in another but yet shoo away little kids trying to sell $500 cop chicklets as if they were skum.
I want to make it clear that I LIKE HANGING OUT WITH GRINGOS. In fact I encourage it. However I don't like hanging out with ASSHOLES. The ones I came across in my trip while visiting some favorite P4P places was partly the reason why I struck out to find new locations. So I guess I really owe them some thanks.
Cheers,
Cubanut
BTW- In addition to the new daytime digs I found, for those of you who PM'd me and went to the original "Secret Place", I found another one with the same set up but bigger if you care to try it out.
These two pics are of a chica from the other "Secret Place". I forget her name but she stood about 6 feet tall in heels. Can't wait till she's gets those braces off her teeth though because she has a great smile. Great personality as well and she even she asked me to take these shots and then email them to her so she could put them on her cell phone. I love these places because the girls there truly have "nothing to hide" (this is a hint for those of you who have not been).
interesting you´ve come across so many gringos c-nut because as I note, i have not. of course, I have not prowled thru the casas at all, merely stuck my head in a couple of times and only to about five thus far, with frankly little to no desire to go beyond that number.
I am however, tempted to try the fairly large number of places I was told about in part of town you won´t find any gringo in with the dangerous ambiente. I expect more of the same, but my curiosity has been aroused.
in regards to new places and casas around town, if you can speak mediocre Spanish at the very least, all one needs to do is find the right cabbie and he can take you around to as many as you want and then some. They even keep business cards and lists of them handy. There is certainly no shortage of them around town, it´s an incredible industry, though it won´t serve for much beyond a blueball release IMHO
I third that. My Colombiana here is getting on my last nerve. "Why you don't call me when you are out of the country? . Why you don't call me much when you are in the country. Why this, why that? 'Broad I don't call anybody in the States when I am not in the States. I'm not wasting my mongering money on phone calls. Besides, your fingers aren't broken. You know my number and you know where I live. And if I don't answer then you can leave a message or send an email. '" The americanization I can do without. Meanwhile, all of my ladies in Colombia are just overjoyed if I send them an email once a week. And I would like to highlight what you said brother Yoda. The americanized ones usually don't give us the time of day.
[QUOTE=Master Yoda]We go there for the de-americanized latin women not the ones that could have been infected with the feminazi virus in America. Most of the Latin women in the US are americanized and wouldnt give an old gringo like me the time of day.[/QUOTE]
had to take a second look at the mug Cubanut of the last girl, your slipping....
However Melissa now that is another story, I like the gymnastics, and I bet it she has the potential to play twister with the best of them.....
[QUOTE=Tiny 12]There is no way I'm going to slam Cubanut, because he's added so much to this forum. But I've got news for you, ISG is a good place because people share information.
It's interesting you bring up Cartagena because (a) it's the only place in Colombia that I'm familiar with where extranjeros have had a significant effect on the price of poontang, and (b) it's the Europeans, like you, that are just as or more responsible for the high prices than gringos. Look at the Italians paying 400,000 pesos in LDV. You've got strong euros and you're spreading them around. I don't think you guys can rightfully blame pussy inflation entirely on us. In most of the places I visit, it's really not the fault of the Europeans or the gringos though. It's the locals, in Colombia the businessmen who are prospering under Uribe. Add to that inflation in Colombia and a weak dollar, and in USD terms, yes, poontang is more expensive.
Many Colombians, not just the hookers, are doing better than they were 5 or 10 years ago. That's a good thing, even if it does mean you're going to have to pay 10 euros more for a piece of ass.[/QUOTE]
You are out of your mind.
a) Its certainly NOT the local men who are responsible for pussy inflation. Economical inflation does not rectify a 5 - 6 times higher price for a pussy in Colombia. That's not the usual inflationrate in Colombia anyway.
Colombianos are not paying 5 - 6 times more like estranjeros. I know this from very reliable inside sources. Besides, the local businessmen prospering under Uribe, dont need to go to putas as they have on every finger hanging a 9'er or 10'er chica.(which they sponsor) for their own physical benefits. It shows me that YOU are not very familiar with the Colombian Scenery and yes, only went or go to Cartagena. Good, I hope you remain overthere ! NO more need for you to read the Cali section. And... Look below a gringo has been killed in Cali. So please Stay away !!! :-))
b) Whether a currency (Euro or US dollar) is strong or weak, the putas in Colombia or any other place in third world, wont give a damn IF for you this will be more painfull or not to pay the moment you wanna Bang her. They see your white whale face, and know they can ask 5 - 6 times the price compared to a local man. Because they know you are so eager to bang her and have your brains in the opposite space where they should belong. (I admit its not only Gringos, some ASSHOLE europeans also exist.) But as Colombia is next to N. America, the rate of ASSHOLES comming from Europe is rather small compared to gringos. Or are you going to claim prices in TIJUANA Mexico also went up because of an Italian looser ?
Whole central America, the Caraibians, and now lots of parts in S. America are westernized and influenced by ASSHOLES travelling. (20 % Europeans and 80 % American assholes). Take a look at tourist statistics about Colombia before you enter a discussion. I can understand those in here aware of local prices and local customs. They travel with a very different state of mind compared to Assholes. And know when they show to run around with their balls in their head and their brains between their legs, they will LOOSE ! Not only for themselves but also for the next tourist comming in. Play the game differently with putas and you are going to benefit from it !
[QUOTE=MJG Dogs]had to take a second look at the mug Cubanut of the last girl, your slipping....
However Melissa now that is another story, I like the gymnastics, and I bet it she has the potential to play twister with the best of them.....[/QUOTE]
MJG Dogs,
Actually she looks better in person. Like I said, I can't wait til the braces come off her teeth. Also it was a bit warm and sweaty when I took the pics. She really does look great in person. Still, I would take fair looks and great P4P service over great looks and fair/poor P4P service any day.
Anyway, here's a pic of a couple of gals I and my buddy were set up with by my other friends girlfriend. Nice girls. We took them dancing on Ave Sexta then back to the hotel for some fun and furious loving. I took the one on the right (Jennifer).
Cheers,
Cubanut
Cream on Top, I'm glad to see that you've mellowed since your days on gringos.com (matrimonial site, not an ISG competitor) and are no longer blaming the gringo alone for all the world's problems. Your points,
a) Did you read what I wrote? I have no argument that there are extranjeros in CARTAGENA paying 5-6 times the going rate in other venues. There are definitely Colombians paying as much or more than tourists in Colombia, and those 9's and 10's on the arms of the Colombianos are not necessarily sponsored women. Some are prepagos or from places like Las Profesionales. Much of this goes on in private though -- the extranjero is more likely to be seen in public (like a restaurant) with a hooker than the typical Colombian monger. Your assumption that I've never ventured out of Cartagena is wrong. I've been to Bogota and Medellin on multiple occasions and once to Barranquilla, admittedly usually not just to monger, but primarily for business and as a conventional tourist. Don't worry, I don't have plans right now to go to Cali, so you don't have to worry about one more ASSHOLE in your favorite city.
B.) You do have a point here. You go to Mexico and "gringo" means estadounidense; they don't differentiate as much in Colombia.
YOU are the one that should take a look at the tourist statistics:
[url]http://www.turismoafondo.com/comunidad/news.asp?id=319[/url]
In the first part of 2007, 17% of tourists to Colombia came from the European Union and 19% from the U.S. Forty-two percent were from South America. I haven't spent as much time mongering in Cartagena as I used to, but when I first started going there were more Italians than estadounidenses. Don't know if that's still the case -- I've been into LDV three times in the last two years. I suspect what you say about Tijuana, Mexico is wrong, but I've never been there. I can say for a fact that you'll spend a lot more for poontang in Mexico City for top flight hookers, $250/hour, than what you'll pay in the border towns close to Texas. Massage parlors in Juarez on the border charge $40 for a session, versus $100 in Guadalajara in the interior. The reason? Just like most places in Colombia (but not Cartagena), IT'S THE LOCALS THAT ARE DRIVING THE PRICE OF PUSSY, not the gringos.
[QUOTE=Cream on Top]You are out of your mind.
a) Its certainly NOT the local men who are responsible for pussy inflation. Economical inflation does not rectify a 5 - 6 times higher price for a pussy in Colombia. That's not the usual inflationrate in Colombia anyway.
Colombianos are not paying 5 - 6 times more like estranjeros. I know this from very reliable inside sources. Besides, the local businessmen prospering under Uribe, dont need to go to putas as they have on every finger hanging a 9'er or 10'er chica.(which they sponsor) for their own physical benefits. It shows me that YOU are not very familiar with the Colombian Scenery and yes, only went or go to Cartagena. Good, I hope you remain overthere ! NO more need for you to read the Cali section. And... Look below a gringo has been killed in Cali. So please Stay away !!! :-))
b) Whether a currency (Euro or US dollar) is strong or weak, the putas in Colombia or any other place in third world, wont give a damn IF for you this will be more painfull or not to pay the moment you wanna Bang her. They see your white whale face, and know they can ask 5 - 6 times the price compared to a local man. Because they know you are so eager to bang her and have your brains in the opposite space where they should belong. (I admit its not only Gringos, some ASSHOLE europeans also exist.) But as Colombia is next to N. America, the rate of ASSHOLES comming from Europe is rather small compared to gringos. Or are you going to claim prices in TIJUANA Mexico also went up because of an Italian looser ?
Whole central America, the Caraibians, and now lots of parts in S. America are westernized and influenced by ASSHOLES travelling. (20 % Europeans and 80 % American assholes). Take a look at tourist statistics about Colombia before you enter a discussion. I can understand those in here aware of local prices and local customs. They travel with a very different state of mind compared to Assholes. And know when they show to run around with their balls in their head and their brains between their legs, they will LOOSE ! Not only for themselves but also for the next tourist comming in. Play the game differently with putas and you are going to benefit from it ![/QUOTE]
Gents,
I didn't think a comment about a few jerks would start a discussion of gringo management.
Anyway, can we please get back on track of what Cali Reports is supposed to be for.
As before mentioned, I met Melissa at La Piscina. Her and her two friends had just blown into town from Armenia that evening.
Melissa used to go by the name of Jessica I'm being told. None the less she will probably go through a few more names before her career ends.
Melissa is quite the drinker as well because I bought a caneca of rum and got the incuded dance from her but she drank nearly a third of the bottle to boot! She's a little locomotive for sure on stage but later while we were going at it she started to wear out and barely made it through our session without passing out. Fun as it was I would have liked to have had her save nore gusto in the bedroom than on the stage.
Her boozing it up was what made me decide to session with in house rather than taking her back to my hotel. I would have liked to have had a Nikon photo session with her as well but I figured it was getting late and it could wait another day. The fee for an hour session was $58,000 cop.
Cheers,
Cubanut
Cubanut;
I do agree with what you say about performance over looks. Ok, I will give the chica with the braces the benefit of the doubt, for the body looks nice.
Cheers in return...
it´s basically 50K for an hour and if it´s 2 hours or more, then a 100K, perhaps with a 20K tip or a little more which will cover her taxi expenses.
anything above that is clipjoint/executive pricing.
in a typical casa for e.g. you´ll pay 60K for an hour, out of which she´ll get 40 (I asked) and even in a clipjoint like escoces you can get many girls to go for a 100K for a couple of hours (outside the premises)
[QUOTE=Cubanut]
However, as anything in life, there are exceptions and since my good friend Ricker mentions that he will returning to Cali soon I will be happy to share the info with him since he did me the same favor once before. So PM me Ricker if think you'll have time to pull yourself away from your novia to thread some new waters.
[/QUOTE]
Hey thanks Cubanut !
I think together we could make a guide that would make Scooby cry :)
I posted about my new guide in the Medellin section, but we could change the name to "Cubanut and Ricker's Guide to Colombia" or maybe something more catchy, like "Cuba and Ricker, nuts of Colombia, the Guide".
Or maybe you could come up with an even better name, or we could have a contest like Aussie Greg did, and give out a free copy of our book to the guy that comes up with the best title for us :)
Talk to ya soon amigo!
Looks like Melissa's got natural C-cups, WoW! From your excellent photos, she seems tall, 5' 8"? Sure worth the climb (for me anyway, I'm a shorty)
BTW, I am hanging with 'Red Cloud' in Rio right now. E-mail him when you get a chance. I hope to meet you one day.
Carry on your good works for this board.
Copa has just announced some rock bottom prices out of NYC. Less than $300 RT. Booking the flights on [url]www.copaairlines.com[/url] only lets you book into July. However, if you want to pay the paper ticket fee, you can book on Travelocity, Orbitz or Expedia.
[url]http://www.copaair.com/planifiqueviaje/ofertasWeb/default.aspx?ID=13415[/url]
a 34 year old american and his colombian wife were stopped and assaulted by three armed men in a taxi who intended to take them on a "millionaires walk", which i imagine is a trek to various atm's until they hit their withdrawal limits. luckily for the them, cops were on the scene. a shootout ensued and the 3 assailants along with their taxista were arrested with no injuries.
i'll be in cali next week until the end of the month. i have a few regular (non-pro) chicas that i've kept in touch with since my last trip in dec as well as some prospects that i'm still working. so far the lure of those sexy caleñas has outweighed the fear of street violence, but i'll certainly try to keep an even lower profile this time around. i don't want the distinction of being the next gringo who makes it into el pais!
from el pais cali:
[url]http://www.elpais.com.co/hoy/jud/jud3.html[/url]
cali
evitan "paseo millonario" a un extranjero
abril 05 de 2007
el gaula rerep001ó a un ciudadano estadounidense y a su esposa colombiana, quienes iban a ser víctimas de un 'paseo millonario'.
el extranjero, de 34 años, y su compañera se movilizaban en el taxi hyundai, de placas vcj- 838, cuando dos hombres armados subieron al automóvil y los amenazaron.
los asaltantes, 23, 25 y 32 años, fueron detenidos en la autopista simón bolívar. entre los capturados estaba el taxista.
cuando los tres hombres fueron requeridos por la policía se presentó un intercambio de disparos, que no dejó heridos. las autoridades incautaron una pistola 9 milímetros.
Normal colombian boy goes with waiters and other low and poor (mantecas) colombian campesinas for not more than some beers and a travel to the beach or to disco during nite.He never pays 100 dol. for a nite with girls, also cause 100 dol.for him are a week of work.While if u speack about the colombian millionars they use big money but to go with girls of tv and high sohowgirls not of course to go with the turist's treet and beach hookers.
So if they prices of disco, and beach hookers are going up is especially for tourists form europe and usa that become mad for pussy givin'them a lot of money.
Chao.
[QUOTE=Tiny 12]Cream on Top, I'm glad to see that you've mellowed since your days on gringos.com (matrimonial site, not an ISG competitor) and are no longer blaming the gringo alone for all the world's problems. Your points,
a) Did you read what I wrote? I have no argument that there are extranjeros in CARTAGENA paying 5-6 times the going rate in other venues. There are definitely Colombians paying as much or more than tourists in Colombia, and those 9's and 10's on the arms of the Colombianos are not necessarily sponsored women. Some are prepagos or from places like Las Profesionales. Much of this goes on in private though -- the extranjero is more likely to be seen in public (like a restaurant) with a hooker than the typical Colombian monger. Your assumption that I've never ventured out of Cartagena is wrong. I've been to Bogota and Medellin on multiple occasions and once to Barranquilla, admittedly usually not just to monger, but primarily for business and as a conventional tourist. Don't worry, I don't have plans right now to go to Cali, so you don't have to worry about one more ASSHOLE in your favorite city.
B.) You do have a point here. You go to Mexico and "gringo" means estadounidense; they don't differentiate as much in Colombia.
YOU are the one that should take a look at the tourist statistics:
[url]http://www.turismoafondo.com/comunidad/news.asp?id=319[/url]
In the first part of 2007, 17% of tourists to Colombia came from the European Union and 19% from the U.S. Forty-two percent were from South America. I haven't spent as much time mongering in Cartagena as I used to, but when I first started going there were more Italians than estadounidenses. Don't know if that's still the case -- I've been into LDV three times in the last two years. I suspect what you say about Tijuana, Mexico is wrong, but I've never been there. I can say for a fact that you'll spend a lot more for poontang in Mexico City for top flight hookers, $250/hour, than what you'll pay in the border towns close to Texas. Massage parlors in Juarez on the border charge $40 for a session, versus $100 in Guadalajara in the interior. The reason? Just like most places in Colombia (but not Cartagena), IT'S THE LOCALS THAT ARE DRIVING THE PRICE OF PUSSY, not the gringos.[/QUOTE]
No joda!!! I just went onto their site and you are correct.. actually mine came out to $129US R/T + taxes of $143.70 thus $272.00 R/T JFK to Cali all taxes included. That is the cheapest I have ever seen a ticket from anywhere in the mainland US to Colombia on Copa/Avianca/ AA/Delta or Continental.
Thanks for the info.
[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]Copa has just announced some rock bottom prices out of NYC. Less than $300 RT. Booking the flights on [url]www.copaairlines.com[/url] only lets you book into July. However, if you want to pay the paper ticket fee, you can book on Travelocity, Orbitz or Expedia.
[url]http://www.copaair.com/planifiqueviaje/ofertasWeb/default.aspx?ID=13415[/url][/QUOTE]
Below is a report from a 4 day vist to Cali:
Hotel:
Stayed at Cali Plaza. The hotel is owned by an American. A pretty good location, although it can be a little noisy with a bar situated across the street.
Non-Pros:
Go to the mallls and strike up a conversation. My Spanish is probably intermediate, but you will be surprised how much they will help you. Actually, this works to your advantage. ChipChapi is a good mall to meet them. There are others, but I didn't have time to visit.
Food:
Didn't really eat anywhere fancy. Use the cali lists reports for better info.
Strip Club:
Went to club Escoces near the intercontinental hotel. Talent was ok, but I went there early. The guy outside told me to come back around 11pm to see some great looking girls. Never got the chance to go back.
Massage:
Dr Amor. The girls looked good, but can't compare to Loutron in Medellin. But a good deal for about 20 bucks.
Overall:
Cali is not Medellin. But I feel the women are much more approachable here. People seemed very friendly, and I got the sense of a more laid back atmosphere. Overall a good experience. I ran across a very nice cab driver who speaks good english. His name is Nelson, and his phone is 310-503-4944. He gave me a tour about an hour north of Cali. A very pretty area, that actually made my trip. I would highly recommend him as a driver.
Does Cali Plaza have wireless Internet? If so, do they charge? Also, any issues there with chicas? Just curious. I think I may stay there sometime.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Lotto6]Below is a report from a 4 day vist to Cali:
Hotel:
Stayed at Cali Plaza. The hotel is owned by an American. A pretty good location, although it can be a little noisy with a bar situated across the street.
Non-Pros:
Go to the mallls and strike up a conversation. My Spanish is probably intermediate, but you will be surprised how much they will help you. Actually, this works to your advantage. ChipChapi is a good mall to meet them. There are others, but I didn't have time to visit.
Food:
Didn't really eat anywhere fancy. Use the cali lists reports for better info.
Strip Club:
Went to club Escoces near the intercontinental hotel. Talent was ok, but I went there early. The guy outside told me to come back around 11pm to see some great looking girls. Never got the chance to go back.
Massage:
Dr Amor. The girls looked good, but can't compare to Loutron in Medellin. But a good deal for about 20 bucks.
Overall:
Cali is not Medellin. But I feel the women are much more approachable here. People seemed very friendly, and I got the sense of a more laid back atmosphere. Overall a good experience. I ran across a very nice cab driver who speaks good english. His name is Nelson, and his phone is 310-503-4944. He gave me a tour about an hour north of Cali. A very pretty area, that actually made my trip. I would highly recommend him as a driver.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lotto6]Below is a report from a 4 day vist to Cali:
Hotel:
Stayed at Cali Plaza. The hotel is owned by an American. A pretty good location, although it can be a little noisy with a bar situated across the street.
Non-Pros:
Go to the mallls and strike up a conversation. My Spanish is probably intermediate, but you will be surprised how much they will help you. Actually, this works to your advantage. ChipChapi is a good mall to meet them. There are others, but I didn't have time to visit.
Food:
Didn't really eat anywhere fancy. Use the cali lists reports for better info.
Strip Club:
Went to club Escoces near the intercontinental hotel. Talent was ok, but I went there early. The guy outside told me to come back around 11pm to see some great looking girls. Never got the chance to go back.
Massage:
Dr Amor. The girls looked good, but can't compare to Loutron in Medellin. But a good deal for about 20 bucks.
Overall:
Cali is not Medellin. But I feel the women are much more approachable here. People seemed very friendly, and I got the sense of a more laid back atmosphere. Overall a good experience. I ran across a very nice cab driver who speaks good english. His name is Nelson, and his phone is 310-503-4944. He gave me a tour about an hour north of Cali. A very pretty area, that actually made my trip. I would highly recommend him as a driver.[/QUOTE]
I think you´d do even better in malls other than Chipichape, like Unicentro or Palmetto down south but this also kind of depends on what you look like and your "comportamiento".
without having been to MDE, yes the women are very approachable here if you can speak at least some Spanish )enough to carry on a basic conversation at least)
p.s. and it´s "no me jodas"
[QUOTE=Lotto6] I ran across a very nice cab driver who speaks good english. His name is Nelson, and his phone is 310-503-4944. ... I would highly recommend him as a driver.[/QUOTE]If this is the same Nelson, and I believe it is, he works out of an agency, Colombian Women . com or something like that.
Someone recommended Nelson to put an ad in a newspaper and interviewed the girls that showed up. His wife answered the ad calls and scheduled the girls for their interviews on a Saturday from 9 to 5. Cost was $500. I paid him up front, as he was recommended by a friend who had been satisfied.
He had a conceited girl with big fake knockers ride with him to meet me at the airport. Suggested I take the girl and forget about the interviews the next day.
The next day he showed me a camera that my buddy supposedly bought him as a gift. Suggested I show my appreciation too and buy him a gift.
Several of the girls were regulars from a Cali agency, or average looking friends of his wife. Only a couple were hotties and they were not too motivated... had kids, good job in Cali, etc. He made an effort to get the phone numbers of the hotties for himself, though he promised me he was faithful to his wife?
Completed the interviews but did not find any non-pros worth investing my time or money beyond the $500. BTW $500 is alot of money in Colombia, the average Colombian earns $200 a month, more or less.
Maybe some of you other gentlemen have had the same experience with Nelson?
FARC, is making a strong comeback and targeting CALI as their stronghold and base of operations. and Just as I thought things might be improving slightly there. Just spoke to the novia, she is getting a little shaken up about Cali and its turn for the worse and told me its all over (RCN AND CARACOL).
• Region's governor says FARC rebels are initial suspects in Cali car bombing
• One person killed and 34 injured when bomb goes off in front of police barracks
• At least 40 stores and houses damaged in blast in Colombia's third-largest city
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BOGOTA, Colombia (AP) -- A powerful car bomb exploded Monday in front of police barracks in the southwest city of Cali, Colombia, killing one person and injuring 34, the region's governor said.
Gov. Angelino Garzon told Caracol radio that "the first theory we're going with is that it's the work of the FARC," referring to the country's largest leftist rebel group, the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia.
"Although we cannot rule out other illegal groups, whether it's drug traffickers, paramilitaries or common criminals."
The explosion killed a taxi driver who was passing the car when the bomb was detonated. The blast also injured 19 officers in the barracks, and 15 civilians on the street outside. I will regretebably postpone my monthy trip till things calm down a little, Rather be safe than sorry.
At least 40 stores and houses were damaged.
Cali, Colombia's third largest city about 185 miles (300 kilometers) southwest of the capital of Bogota, is the site of a vicious turf war between leftist rebels, far-right paramilitaries and rival drug traffickers.
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hmmm... if you say so.... but I'll stick with 1) no joda or 2) no me jodes as I've always thought the verb was joder. Maybe I am incorrect :-)
p.s. and it´s "no me jodas"[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Winner71]hmmm... if you say so.... but I'll stick with 1) no joda or 2) no me jodes as I've always thought the verb was joder. Maybe I am incorrect :-)
p.s. and it´s "no me jodas"[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
I would think instead of "sticking with something" you haven´t learned but just assume, it´d be better to learn, no?
people say what SOUNDS like no joda, but that´s kind of quickening things (Latins sometimes swallow letters and syllables, especially in places like Cuba)
so here´s your lesson. For starters your option 2 is definitely INCORRECT and the first needs explanation.
the verb is indeed joder (basically meaning "to fuck with"), and it´s not a verb used in polite company.
if you want to use the negative imperative, you have to change the conjugation of the verb into what is also the "subjunctive" conjugation. (ergo, jodes becomes jodas, and jode becomes joda). The imperative tense and the negative imperative is most often though not always used with the "tu" form. However, with a verb like joder, it´s almost impossible that it´d be used with the polite usted form
which leaves you with
no me jodas (from the "tu" version),. You will often not "hear" the "s" because many Spanish speakers will swallow s´s at end of words or merely aspirate them (where you hear a slight hiss instead of a full pronounciation) and sometimes they won´t say the "me" part. Examples of this are "mi hijo" which is shortened and pronounced "mijo" y mi hija / mija.
now if you were to use the polite form with usted
no me joda - but like I said, highly unlikely it´d be used with the polite usted form.
so - yes your ear does hear "no joda" between the guys in loose/slang conversation (I have heard it in Cuba and Venezuela this way) and if you want to sound like "one of the guys" feel free to use it, though you might start sounding very stupid trying to sound like one of the guys outside that phrase. As I noted, the amount of swallowing, shortening and aspirating depends on the country you are in (Cuba could be the "worst" and Colombia the "best")
the correct form you should learn and know is no me jodas.
Well that's confusing.. you said option 2 is definitely incorrect and then your last sentence is no me jodes is correct? which is it?
Like I said.. I'll stick with no joda and no me jodes... those are correct Spanish in my opinion. what you wrote no me jodas is not correct Spanish... in my opinion. Maybe I am wrong. I called my gf just now and she said "what city?" She said costenos say "No joda" and cachacos say "no jodas"
I asked ok but if you want to use "me" which is correct... no me jodas o no me jodes? She said, "no me jodas." I asked, "why if the verb is joder."
She asked everyone in her family and they came to the conclusion that it's no me jodes.... but no one uses it. She said.. costenos say "no joda" and cachacos say "no me joda." Thus I orginally said "no joda" then you incorrectly corrected me with "no me jodas." Then I came back with "no me jodes o no joda." The technical correct ways as well as the costeno way. This is kind of dumb, I probably shouldnt have responded... I was just pointing out that you corrected me with the only way that is absolutely incorrect... though when you ask someone they think that way is correct.. though they dont use it. Once they think about it though.. they realize your way is in fact incorrect nor does anyone use it... at least not that I've heard.
[QUOTE=Catire][/QUOTE]
I would think instead of "sticking with something" you haven´t learned but just assume, it´d be better to learn, no?
people say what SOUNDS like no joda, but that´s kind of quickening things (Latins sometimes swallow letters and syllables, especially in places like Cuba)
so here´s your lesson. For starters your option 2 is definitely INCORRECT and the first needs explanation.
the verb is indeed joder (basically meaning "to fuck with"), and it´s not a verb used in polite company.
if you want to use the negative imperative, you have to change the conjugation of the verb into what is also the "subjunctive" conjugation. (ergo, jodes becomes jodas, and jode becomes joda). The imperative tense and the negative imperative is most often though not always used with the "tu" form. However, with a verb like joder, it´s almost impossible that it´d be used with the polite usted form
which leaves you with
no me jodas (from the "tu" version),. You will often not "hear" the "s" because many Spanish speakers will swallow s´s at end of words or merely aspirate them (where you hear a slight hiss instead of a full pronounciation) and sometimes they won´t say the "me" part. Examples of this are "mi hijo" which is shortened and pronounced "mijo" y mi hija / mija.
now if you were to use the polite form with usted
no me joda - but like I said, highly unlikely it´d be used with the polite usted form.
so - yes your ear does hear "no joda" between the guys in loose/slang conversation (I have heard it in Cuba and Venezuela this way) and if you want to sound like "one of the guys" feel free to use it, though you might start sounding very stupid trying to sound like one of the guys outside that phrase. As I noted, the amount of swallowing, shortening and aspirating depends on the country you are in (Cuba could be the "worst" and Colombia the "best")
the correct form you should learn and know is no me jodes.[/QUOTE]
To simplify...
If I'm going to use this verb and I'm trying to get the point across in a way like "I can't believe it".. which is how I used it in the other forum regarding cheap airfares. I will say "no joda"
On the other hand if my gf or someone is severly pissing me off I will say it as "no me jodes mas.
Thus why I said... no joda and no me jodes in response to your trying to correct me. Maybe no me jodas is used in places but I havent heard it, but like I politely said... I could be wrong. But you then came back and said no me jodes is absolutely incorrect and then your last line says the correct way and the way I should learn is "no me jodes." Which is exactly how I corrected you and which is exactly what you said is absolutely incorrect???
[QUOTE=Winner71]Well that's confusing.. you said option 2 is definitely incorrect and then your last sentence is no me jodes is correct? which is it?
Like I said.. I'll stick with no joda and no me jodes... those are correct Spanish in my opinion. what you wrote no me jodas is not correct Spanish... in my opinion. Maybe I am wrong. I called my gf just now and she said "what city?" She said costenos say "No joda" and cachacos say "no jodas"
I asked ok but if you want to use "me" which is correct... no me jodas o no me jodes? She said, "no me jodas." I asked, "why if the verb is joder."
She asked everyone in her family and they came to the conclusion that it's no me jodes.... but no one uses it. She said.. costenos say "no joda" and cachacos say "no me joda." Thus I orginally said "no joda" then you incorrectly corrected me with "no me jodas." Then I came back with "no me jodes o no joda." The technical correct ways as well as the costeno way. This is kind of dumb, I probably shouldnt have responded... I was just pointing out that you corrected me with the only way that is absolutely incorrect... though when you ask someone they think that way is correct.. though they dont use it. Once they think about it though.. they realize your way is in fact incorrect nor does anyone use it... at least not that I've heard.
I would think instead of "sticking with something" you haven´t learned but just assume, it´d be better to learn, no?
people say what SOUNDS like no joda, but that´s kind of quickening things (Latins sometimes swallow letters and syllables, especially in places like Cuba)
so here´s your lesson. For starters your option 2 is definitely INCORRECT and the first needs explanation.
the verb is indeed joder (basically meaning "to fuck with"), and it´s not a verb used in polite company.
if you want to use the negative imperative, you have to change the conjugation of the verb into what is also the "subjunctive" conjugation. (ergo, jodes becomes jodas, and jode becomes joda). The imperative tense and the negative imperative is most often though not always used with the "tu" form. However, with a verb like joder, it´s almost impossible that it´d be used with the polite usted form
which leaves you with
no me jodas (from the "tu" version),. You will often not "hear" the "s" because many Spanish speakers will swallow s´s at end of words or merely aspirate them (where you hear a slight hiss instead of a full pronounciation) and sometimes they won´t say the "me" part. Examples of this are "mi hijo" which is shortened and pronounced "mijo" y mi hija / mija.
now if you were to use the polite form with usted
no me joda - but like I said, highly unlikely it´d be used with the polite usted form.
so - yes your ear does hear "no joda" between the guys in loose/slang conversation (I have heard it in Cuba and Venezuela this way) and if you want to sound like "one of the guys" feel free to use it, though you might start sounding very stupid trying to sound like one of the guys outside that phrase. As I noted, the amount of swallowing, shortening and aspirating depends on the country you are in (Cuba could be the "worst" and Colombia the "best")
the correct form you should learn and know is no me jodes.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
ít´s no me jodas.
you can say what sounds like no joda if you want to sound like one of the guys. (and YES, it is often said that way) Like I said, the problem then comes how you sound compared to "the guys" afterwards.
it is not and will NEVER/EVER be no me jodes. (because it has to conjugated differently in the negative imperative).... and of course that´s why it "shouldn´t" be this way either. For your costena gf to say that means she really didn´t learn grammar in school.
I apologize for the fat finger and hopefully my post besides that last line made clear the proper grammatical background. (as did Ezinho)
I happen to believe it´s almost always better to learn the language correctly, rather than trying to sound like the guy on the street (you can get to that once you are very good or master the correct way). If your Spanish is proper you will often get complimented since a lot of the people, especially of the lower classes one might meet may not be well educated and their Spanish will often not be very good/proper.
of course you are free to disagree with the first sentence of the last paragraph
p.s. the costeños in Colombia speak Spanish that is very similar to the Venezuelan variety, and even use many of the slang terms, so I´m not the slightest bit surprised they all say (and you hear) no joda. I heard what sounded like no joda in Caracas all the time (but since it´s a slang/street expression, they are swallowing the me and not pronouncing the s at the end of the word)
I will ask some locals in Cali tonight/tomorrow for their explanation of why it´s said as "no joda" (I might learn something as well) but I know the proper grammatical way would be no me jodas
Fair enough.. I'd too be interested in hearing what they say specifically regarding no joda o no jodas. You've kind of convinced me that no me jodas better over no me jodes. But why do some say "no joda" and some say "no jodas?" Slang by region?
[QUOTE=Catire]ít´s no me jodas.
you can say what sounds like no joda if you want to sound like one of the guys. (and YES, it is often said that way) Like I said, the problem then comes how you sound compared to "the guys" afterwards.
it is not and will NEVER/EVER be no me jodes. (because it has to conjugated differently in the negative imperative).... and of course that´s why it "shouldn´t" be this way either. For your costena gf to say that means she really didn´t learn grammar in school.
I apologize for the fat finger and hopefully my post besides that last line made clear the proper grammatical background. (as did Ezinho)
I happen to believe it´s almost always better to learn the language correctly, rather than trying to sound like the guy on the street (you can get to that once you are very good or master the correct way). If your Spanish is proper you will often get complimented since a lot of the people, especially of the lower classes one might meet may not be well educated and their Spanish will often not be very good/proper.
of course you are free to disagree with the first sentence of the last paragraph
p.s. the costeños in Colombia speak Spanish that is very similar to the Venezuelan variety, and even use many of the slang terms, so I´m not the slightest bit surprised they all say (and you hear) no joda. I heard what sounded like no joda in Caracas all the time (but since it´s a slang/street expression, they are swallowing the me and not pronouncing the s at the end of the word)
I will ask some locals in Cali tonight/tomorrow for their explanation of why it´s said as "no joda" (I might learn something as well) but I know the proper grammatical way would be no me jodas[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Catire][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Catire].......if you want to use the negative imperative, you have to change the conjugation of the verb into what is also the "subjunctive" conjugation. (ergo, jodes becomes jodas, and jode becomes joda). The imperative tense and the negative imperative is most often though not always used with the "tú" form. However, with a verb like joder, it´s almost impossible that it´d be used with the polite usted form.........[/QUOTE]
Holy shit, Catire. It's not fair to make me reach for grammar books before I've finished my first coffee!!
So if anyone is interested, as learning Spanish is a fundamental to scoring well with Chicas (it even adds value to a financial exchange), this is the Spanish lesson I derived from your post although I had to sit down and digest due to my own limitations. I got it down to;
To express a negative command one uses the present subjunctive (one of the uses of this tense).
The present subjunctive of regular verbs and many irregular verbs is normally formed by taking the present indicative, 1st person singular of the verb and:
for an [b]ar[/b] ending type add: [b] e, es, e; emos, éis, en;[/b]
for an [b]er[/b] or [b]ir[/b] ending type add: [b] a, as, a; amos, áis, an.[/b]
(And remember the usted/ustedes form uses third person)!
Thanks, Catire!! I prefer days when I learn something!!
Right. Finished my coffee. Now got to take a dump.
Suerte!
Polvo
Heatluver,
You're not going to leave me all alone in Cali at the tender mercy of The Farc, are you? Will you at least give me your novia's phone number so that she might comfort me in your absence?
Winner & Catire,
I'm only an intermediate level spanish speaker so I consulted my Living Language "Ultimate Spanish" book for reference. Direct quote: "The negative tu command is the second person singular of the present subjunctive; there are no exceptions". Hence the er verb "joder" as a negative tu command would be "jodas", and you would need the indirect object pronoun "me" placed in between the "no" and the verb yielding "no me jodas" or en ingles "don't fuck with me". I even plugged "no me jodas" into the Prompt Online Translator which though imperfect I've found to be the best of the online translators and it came back with "don't fuck me".
[url]http://www.online-translator.com/text.asp?lang=en[/url]
So I guess that wearing a t-shirt with "FARC SUCKS" on the front and "No Me Jodas" on the back probably isn't such a good idea during my 3 weeks in Cali, huh? Damn! Seriously though, I checked out the El Pais link about the bombing. It had a video clip of the aftermath. Looked more like a scene from Baghdad. Maybe some of those apartments I've been looking at might get even cheaper and make up for the loss of buying power the weakened dollar is causing.
Happy Mongering to All!
Hey Loco!!
You actually appeared semi-intellegent in that last post .... jajajaja!
I'll be back in Cali soon to help protect you :)
I had a little accidente and injured my shoulder, so I've been on a little R and R lately in the US.
Just got the doc's permiso to head down south! Gracias a Dios!
Hope to bump into you guys ... Loco y Catire
My friends & I met Nelson through another agency called CALIVIP in December. He was pretty cool and spoke English pretty well. Drove us whereever and never overcharged or begged for anything. He in fact drove us up to the statue known as Christo Rey which took a while to get up to and down from(if anyone gets a chance check out- awesome view). He never had the meter running, we offered to buy him lunch at a nice little stop off and he declined. When he dropped us off he didn't ask for anything. We gave him about 50,000 pesos between the three of us for about 4 hours of his time. All in all, seemed like a nice guy. We even offered to buy him some girls in the houses that night if he drove us around but said he had to go home to his mother so we figured him to be a mama's boy. Maybe that's his cover though.
Anyway, this is my first post on this site which I found a few weeks ago. Very informitive. I will be going back to Cali next tuesday for a week and it will be my 6th trip in the last 16 months(cant get enough). I will be staying in the south(Jardin to be exact). Anybody know if this bombing occured near this area? Just curious. Keep your fingers crossed for me non the less. Also. anyone know any good houses to go to in the south. All the good ones seem to be in the north. And any good houses to go to during the day. Is Dr Amor in the north? I think i've been there a few times but I'm always too buzzed when i get there or too tired when I'm leaving to remember the address. Any recommendations or suggestions for my trip next week would be appreciated from anyone who's been there in the last few weeks. I'll be sure to post my experiences when I get back in late April and hopefully some nice pics.
[QUOTE=Npaul1]If this is the same Nelson, and I believe it is, he works out of an agency, Colombian Women . com or something like that.
Someone recommended Nelson to put an ad in a newspaper and interviewed the girls that showed up. His wife answered the ad calls and scheduled the girls for their interviews on a Saturday from 9 to 5. Cost was $500. I paid him up front, as he was recommended by a friend who had been satisfied.
He had a conceited girl with big fake knockers ride with him to meet me at the airport. Suggested I take the girl and forget about the interviews the next day.
The next day he showed me a camera that my buddy supposedly bought him as a gift. Suggested I show my appreciation too and buy him a gift.
Several of the girls were regulars from a Cali agency, or average looking friends of his wife. Only a couple were hotties and they were not too motivated... had kids, good job in Cali, etc. He made an effort to get the phone numbers of the hotties for himself, though he promised me he was faithful to his wife?
Completed the interviews but did not find any non-pros worth investing my time or money beyond the $500. BTW $500 is alot of money in Colombia, the average Colombian earns $200 a month, more or less.
Maybe some of you other gentlemen have had the same experience with Nelson?[/QUOTE]
and winner, it turns out we were both correct, but you were more correct, because of the manner you initially used the phrase.
it turns out we have two seperate, loosely tied in, but in fact different expressions.
no joda - is an expression of asombro, which means fright, amazement, astonishment. Toss out fright, because of all the circumstances I have heard it used in, it is obviously an expression of amazement, astonishment
and it can range from "you don´t say" to "you have got to be (fucking) kidding me".
It is a COLLOQUIALexpression, that is why you will not find it in any book, and this is also why no one´s gf will be able to explain to you where it comes from, gramatically (though note it stays true to grammatical form)
it is most commonly used in coastal Colombia (and Venezuela which shares much slang with coastal Colombia). The reason I whiffed on this while in CCS is because I would always hear it when groups of Venezuelans would come into the Internet cafe to play Counterstrike, which was an online virtual counterterrorist shoot them up game. I heard "no joda" probably thrice a minute. That and "verga", which is an exclamation equivalent to "fuck" (in Ven)
I figured that they were saying to each other, stop fucking with me, etc, it "fit", but actually what they were constantly expressing was surprise and shock at the manner they were getting killed/shot at. This also fits some outside situations where I heard it, where I thought "stop fucking with me" was being said as an expression of surprise, etc. That´s why I never particularly followed up on that colloqualism.
It is difficult to ascertain the proper spelling of colloqualisms, but since SPanish is a phonetic language, you can usually get it correctly. No one in Cali where they would pronounce or aspirate their s´s at end, or Caracas, where they would swallow or aspirate made the sound, therefore there is little doubt in my mind that the expression is "no joda".
then, there is also "no me jodas".
That is used when you are DIRECTLY speaking to someone, and is a very strong statement (though neither term would be used in polite company) to tell someone to stop bothering you, stop fucking with you. This would be almost the strongest thing you could say to a tout, for e.g. who would not leave you alone despite previous requests.
to accentuate what was previously said, it can never ever be no jode, or no me jodes, because that would violate an ironclad grammatical rule about the negative imperative.
for e.g.
el me molesta - he´s bothering me
no me molestEs! - don´t bother me!
estoy perdido - I am lost (from the verb perder)
no te pierdAs! - do not get lost!
so hopefully we have both learned something and I apologize if I came across as arrogant or condescending, I inevitably get into full sarcastic mode when I see people on forums such as this one post stuff on foreign languages, because 90% of the time, they don´t have a fucking clue (kind of like W claiming or media claiming he knows Spanish) Clearly you did, and I was wrong, so please accept my heartfelt apology and mea culpa.
No problema amigo. It was a nice lesson for everyone and the best part about it is while we were both correct... we also both humbly admitted that we were wrong about something. That my friend is how it should be done as opposed to some of the flaming wars you see on some of these boards.
And I can't say enough about the fantastic first hand research job done by you. Next time I'm in Cali, I'd be honored to share some experiences with you.
[QUOTE=Catire]and winner, it turns out we were both correct, but you were more correct, because of the manner you initially used the phrase.
it turns out we have two seperate, loosely tied in, but in fact different expressions.
no joda - is an expression of asombro, which means fright, amazement, astonishment. Toss out fright, because of all the circumstances I have heard it used in, it is obviously an expression of amazement, astonishment
and it can range from "you don´t say" to "you have got to be (fucking) kidding me".
It is a COLLOQUIALexpression, that is why you will not find it in any book, and this is also why no one´s gf will be able to explain to you where it comes from, gramatically (though note it stays true to grammatical form)
it is most commonly used in coastal Colombia (and Venezuela which shares much slang with coastal Colombia). The reason I whiffed on this while in CCS is because I would always hear it when groups of Venezuelans would come into the Internet cafe to play Counterstrike, which was an online virtual counterterrorist shoot them up game. I heard "no joda" probably thrice a minute. That and "verga", which is an exclamation equivalent to "fuck" (in Ven)
I figured that they were saying to each other, stop fucking with me, etc, it "fit", but actually what they were constantly expressing was surprise and shock at the manner they were getting killed/shot at. This also fits some outside situations where I heard it, where I thought "stop fucking with me" was being said as an expression of surprise, etc. That´s why I never particularly followed up on that colloqualism.
It is difficult to ascertain the proper spelling of colloqualisms, but since SPanish is a phonetic language, you can usually get it correctly. No one in Cali where they would pronounce or aspirate their s´s at end, or Caracas, where they would swallow or aspirate made the sound, therefore there is little doubt in my mind that the expression is "no joda".
then, there is also "no me jodas".
That is used when you are DIRECTLY speaking to someone, and is a very strong statement (though neither term would be used in polite company) to tell someone to stop bothering you, stop fucking with you. This would be almost the strongest thing you could say to a tout, for e.g. who would not leave you alone despite previous requests.
to accentuate what was previously said, it can never ever be no jode, or no me jodes, because that would violate an ironclad grammatical rule about the negative imperative.
for e.g.
el me molesta - he´s bothering me
no me molestEs! - don´t bother me!
estoy perdido - I am lost (from the verb perder)
no te pierdAs! - do not get lost!
so hopefully we have both learned something and I apologize if I came across as arrogant or condescending, I inevitably get into full sarcastic mode when I see people on forums such as this one post stuff on foreign languages, because 90% of the time, they don´t have a fucking clue (kind of like W claiming or media claiming he knows Spanish) Clearly you did, and I was wrong, so please accept my heartfelt apology and mea culpa.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ricker]Hey Loco!!
I had a little accidente and injured my shoulder, so I've been on a little R and R lately in the US.
Just got the doc's permiso to head down south! Gracias a Dios!
Hope to bump into you guys ... Loco y Catire[/QUOTE]
I went to the drugstore today to inquire about some fairly well known antibiotics that some of us might need from time to time.
I got what I wanted, 3 pills of 500 mg for 7000 pesos (this was generic, the brand name costs 28000 pesos). Therefore I paid $3.50 US for something and it took me 30 seconds.
Now let´s compare this to the fucking scam pulled on people in the "home of the brave and land of the free".
I have to make a fucking appointment with some quack, for which I have to wait at least several days.
then, you wait at least 30 minutes, often past your appointed time to see the quack who will see you for 3 minutes and in effect tell you what you already know and prescribe what you already knew he´d prescribe. You or your insurance company will be charged $100 US or more for this "visit".
then you go the fucking pharmacy, you have to wait at least 20 minutes for them to "fill your prescription" and when you finally get it, probably even the generic version will cost you at least $15 US.
so let´s compare the experience and the hassle and the cost.
I can´t wait until some assclown customs officer asks me about these drugs I am bringing back for personal use so I can unload on his clown ass.
(it´s technically illegal to bring back drugs to the US for personal use, but so long as it´s for personal use (in terms of quantity) the FDA has never prosecuted anyone for such a thing.). I suppose I won´t unload on the assclown because technically he could take my shit away.
but this is one of the things that really fucking pisses me off.
Ricker if you want to "bump into me", you will have to call me (hopefully you have my local number, or PM me, email me and tell me where,what time to meet in advance)
[QUOTE=Potts6] Is Dr Amor in the north? I think i've been there a few times but I'm always too buzzed when i get there or too tired when I'm leaving to remember the address.[/QUOTE]
Potts6,
Yes, Dr. Amor is in the North.
Clínica del Doctor Amor. Avenida 2N # 23-33. Everyday from 9am till 8pm.
Best days to go are Thursday thru Saturday between 1:30pm to 5pm for the most/best selection of women.
Most are young girls but there are a few more experienced women that really know how to please a man. I included a pic of one of the VIP gals.
Instead of the Doctor being IN, I was IN this Doctor.
Cheers,
Cubanut
Shortly after register to my hotel, I went out to find my favourite pleasure.
I wanted to try Chicas del norte (Ave 2bis, Norte 28N57) as someone reported this place to be good.
My taxi had some difficulties to find it, but he finally did it and left me in front of a typical Casa with the classical boy outside which happened to be a girl.
I entered and they ask me if I wanted a drink or see the girls immediately.
I asked for the girls but they only had 3, and none of them were attractive to me.
So I left and went next door to the right where there is another casa.
Once again, they had only 3 girls.
One was a nice morenita, and I asked to talk to her to ask her if she would do anal.
As she said no, I left the place.
I walked to the left, passed the traffic light and arrived to another place with casas.
I entered the first one (Ave 2bis Norte 34N35), there are more casas next doors, and was introduced to 6 girls.
3 of them were doable to me.
They had a skinny white girl and 2 morenitas.
One of the morenita was very tall and very skinny.
I asked her if she would do anal, and she said yes, I asked then if she would do BBBJ and, once again, she said yes.}So, what are we waiting for ? Let’s go !!!
She asked me 80 for 1 hour with anal, + 2 for the 2 condoms.
I paid and we went upstairs.
The house, in general, is not in a very good shape, but the rooms were some how better, with a real bed in a reasonable shape, lots of light.
As usual, sheets are not changed between customers, and you’d better forget about that if you want to have a good time.
We first went to the shower, outside the room, with cold water, and started the mutual exploration, but as the water was really chilly, I didn’t remain for long there.
We then went back to the room, and started with my favourite tongue’s game, exploring each other.
I must say that Claudia is very clean and has no bad flavour in her heaven’s and hell’s gates.
She sucks very well (uncovered), and at my request, interest herself in my back door.
After more than 15 minutes of this, we were ready for the next step.
Claudia covered me and we started with the classical missionary, doggy, on side, …
Of course, I didn’t forget the hell’s gate, and controlled myself to remain hard, but willing to explore some darker zone of Claudia.
We then start the real thing and, she was not very comfortable because she was not used to practice anal. It must have been her 4th or 5th intent and it was painful for her, but she could stand it, and she started to relax herself and things went better.
Once again, we did several positions, and I really enjoyed myself with Claudia’s ass.
After a very long time, she asked to go to the rest room, and I did what I had to do to remain in good shape.
When she came back, we only had 10 minutes left, so we played a little bit with her pussy, and then, as I was not having so good sensations, I took the condom out and asked her to finger me and to suck hard.
She said ok if I would not come in her mouth, and that was not a problem at all for me.
So she did the job, and she did it good, until I couldn’t stand it anymore and came very strongly.
I asked for a 2 minutes rest and, after recovering, for a short shower because I was sweating for so much activity in the warm night of Cali.
When we came back to the room, we talked a little bit, because the hour was more than over and they had called her downstairs.
She said that she wanted to quit in a while to take care of her baby, and that she wouldn’t accept anal any more (what a pity !!!).
So I tipped her with 20KCop and left back in taxi to my hotel.
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This afternoon, I managed to be free at 4:30pm.
So I left my hotel and asked the taxi driver to take me to the Clinica del Dr Amor (Ave 2N 23-xx).
After some difficulty, he finally found it and I got in the place.
When I entered, I had a chock, there was 15 guys seated and waiting !!!
I asked to the manager, what happened and he asked me to seat and relax, because the girls would come for a presentation.
The place is good and looks classy, especially for Cali´s standards.
One thing amazed me : they have cameras registering the activity !!!
That’s the very first time I see that in a *****house, imaging the blackmail possibilities ???
After a minute or so, girls started to present themselves.
I saw 6 girls that afternoon; none was of my taste…
Then several guys left the place and I thought that I’d wait 10 more minutes to see if some other girls would show up.
Unfortunately, after 5 very boring minutes, no new girl had arrived, so I left and decided to go to the Casa del Marquez (Ave 2a norte 3N-23), but I was enable to found it? I have walked several times around the block, but I couldn’t find the Ave 2A norte 23.
So, I decided to look for La casita del Rio Arte (Ave 2aN 24N-105).
Same thing again, I have not been able to found Ave 2aN 24N
Looks like that Ave 2a only exist with calle 22…
Finaly, I looked to Calle 23aN 2N-95, and, at last, I have been able to find it !!!
When I got in, the place had 7 guys seated, having a beer or waiting for something.
The door keeper seated me and asked me if I wanted a drink or rather wait for the girls presentation.
After a short time, Girls started to present themselves and I saw something like 15 girls.
2 or 3 were of my taste and I asked for a not so young brunette with nice long hair, slim body and good tits.
She came and we started to talk business.
She would do anything but BBBJ and anal : Just what I was looking for…
So, we mutually decided not to go.
She talked to the guy in charge, and he came to me, and told me that if I wanted something special, it would be better to ask him first so he would send me the adequate girls.
I explained him my wishes and he sent me a girl that was not of my taste because she was too fat and had a big belly… But he recommended her telling me that he guaranteed her behaviour…
So I start to talk with her and she was not chocked by my demands, so I decided to try her, as I always think, it’s better to go with a not so good looking girl if she is really good, and I have been with some 10 that had a very poor behaviour, and that left me very frustrated.
Believe it or not, I didn’t ask her name and I can’t remember the name she told me when she presented herself.
I asked for the price and she told me 80KCop for an hour with anal.
That’s a good price if the girl behaves well.
We had to wait almost 10 minutes to get a room.
Meanwhile, I saw some other very doable girls coming from upstairs…
Finally, we went to the room, and got naked.
Room is very simple, but clean and had a good light, and a good, comfortable, hard bed.
There was an open window that gave on the entrance on Calle 23aN, so the room could had some fresh air.
She had her third baby 4 months ago, and so she is still with a big belly…
Her face is … normal, she has dark mid size hairs, and she doesn’t talk too much.
We decided to start with a shower, but the shower was busy…
So we went back to the room and start some action.
She started a good BBBJ and I start to lick her pussy and to explore around the pussy…
We did that for quite a while and she was moaning from time to time, so I left her on her back and put my head between her legs to give her a very good licking time.
She responded to my attention and after some 10 minutes of intense licking and fingering, I think that she finally reached climax… Well, at last, she gave me a good representation if it was simulated, but she was breathless and exhausted.
So I lay down with her and start to rub my best friend between heaven’s and hell’s door.
I was still uncovered, and she didn’t felt safe with that game, and to say the truth, I was willing to get in so hard that I had to stop to be able to control me.
So, finally I covered myself and start in missionary position, opening widely and fingering that nice ass. Boys, screwing while you finger the ass, is a strong feeling !!! And it’s even stronger to me when I do the contrary.
After some minutes, I left the heaven’s door to visit the hell’s door.
Unfortunately, even though I prepared her fingering her ass, she couldn’t stand me in doggy, so she lay down and invited me to enter, but once again, she couldn’t stand the pain.
So I proposed her to relax and try it laying on the side, and at last, she could stand it and I did her like this for more than 10 minutes meanwhile I was fingering her pussy.
I was so exhausted that I had to stop several times.
Finally, I reached climax and came very strongly. I then kept her in my arms to recover, but I was really without strength.
After recovering and leaving her hell’s door, I asked for a shower because I was really sweating.
That time, the shower was free and we could bath (with cold water) to refresh ourselves.
Then we went back to the room, I asked for pictures, but she didn’t want it because she is very afraid that somebody she knew could see her. I told her that I’d take the picture without her face, but she really didn’t want that, so, as she was not that good looking, I didn’t insist, and we talked a little bit about her (difficult) life, dressed up, and left the room after paying her 80Kcop + 20 K for tip.
She had no cell neither because she was robbed 10 days ago, but she proposed me to meet again next day, I wish I could, but I have to leave Cali tomorrow early…
When we were going downstairs, she stopped and watched the guys that were seated in the room, waiting for a girl to come.
She explained me that all the girls look carefully before they entered the room, because they had had several cases that a known person or a relative was in the room.
I now understand why girls are presented one by one in so many places.
I said goodbye and then walked a little bit and took a taxi back to my hotel.
By the way, this time I was in the Intercontinental, I asked the reception if I could come with an escort and if they had a fee for that.
Response : Yes, 77Kcop (that’s just crazy!!!).
Enjoy…
[QUOTE=Col Bog 1]
... She had no cell neither because she was robbed 10 days ago ...
[/QUOTE]
Nice report amigo!
Just a side note. These robberies in Cali are getting even more common.
My girlfriend called me yesterday from Cali. She was on a bicycle, nothing fancy, and some asshole wth a knife tried to rob her of it and more.
She said luckily it was during the day, other people heard the commotion and chased the guy away.
Nice chicas for sure, but ten cuidado (be careful)!
Ricker,
Sometimes I wonder if its even worth going to Cali.
I mean there is a good chance nothing will happen but its just the fact the women are so damn hot.
Is Cali your favorite town?
My novia was robbed for her cell that i bought her by 3 guys and 1 girl on two motorcylcles. Now when she goes out she doesnt bring her cell phone, instead she swaps the sim card into an old old NOKIA, shame to have to do that now..
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]FARC, is making a strong comeback and targeting
CALI as their stronghold and base of operations. and Just as I thought things might be improving slightly there. Just spoke to the novia, she is getting a little shaken up about Cali and its turn for the worse and told me its all over (RCN AND CARACOL).
• Region's governor says FARC rebels are initial suspects in Cali car bombing
• One person killed and 34 injured when bomb goes off in front of police barracks
• At least 40 stores and houses damaged in blast in Colombia's third-largest city
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BOGOTA, Colombia (AP) -- A powerful car bomb exploded Monday in front of police barracks in the southwest city of Cali, Colombia, killing one person and injuring 34, the region's governor said.
Gov. Angelino Garzon told Caracol radio that "the first theory we're going with is that it's the work of the FARC," referring to the country's largest leftist rebel group, the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia.
"Although we cannot rule out other illegal groups, whether it's drug traffickers, paramilitaries or common criminals."
The explosion killed a taxi driver who was passing the car when the bomb was detonated. The blast also injured 19 officers in the barracks, and 15 civilians on the street outside. I will regretebably postpone my monthy trip till things calm down a little, Rather be safe than sorry.
At least 40 stores and houses were damaged.
Cali, Colombia's third largest city about 185 miles (300 kilometers) southwest of the capital of Bogota, is the site of a vicious turf war between leftist rebels, far-right paramilitaries and rival drug traffickers.
[url]http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/04/09/colombia.bombing.ap/index.html[/url]
[url]http://www.elpais.com.co/paisonline/especiales/policia_atentado/notas/Abril092007/bomba2.html[/url][/QUOTE]
If you go keep your guard up!
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]Hello all, After going to Cali every six weeks for the past year and a half a bit of violence finally hit home,, after a nice fun filled day with the NOVIA in el centro, on the way home in the taxi we stopped at my apartamento and she gets out to open the door and puts the key in the door to open it, i tell the cab driver to drive on, because i was on my way for a 7pm massage apointment, I get a call two minutes later from her brother panicking on is cell phone that my baby was held-up two minutes ago in front of the apratment by 3 men and one woman on dirt bikes, who strongheld her and physically removed her cell phone, told her to be quiet OR ELSE and then sped-off and left her physically and emotionally in distress, I get home to find her crumbled-up on the kitchen floor in shock and unstopable crying, i try to console her to no avail, telling her that thank-god she is alive and not hurt or dead and that the superficial products can be easily replaced, and thank-god that that they didnt go into the apartment and rob the place WITH ALL MY STUFF including laptop and ipod, etc etc, why didnt they go in? because this was a random act and they didnt know whom or what was waiting for them inside, my CUNADO told me that this was a random normal day in CALI and just another statistic, which i sorrily agree to, but this really hit close to home and opened my eyes even more, to see this once proud, beautiful, strong CALENA, reduced to a mere statistic! ON ANOTHER NOTE, a very good friend of mine who is in CTG, the same times as me during the feria in CALI, HAS just told me that girls in CTG are asking for 300k ST and Beach girls are asking 150k, CHEAPEST or walking!!, i dont know if this is because it is peak season or something here to stay,, now take it, this is coming from the mouth of a very seasoned monger who has been in COLOMBIA, DR, CR, BRAZIL and CUBA! ITS official, CTG is RUINED and ANOTHER CR, end of story! which city will be next? Peace mongers and be safe "CHINO"[/QUOTE]
have come to believe casas suck. And I will tell you why they suck. (even considering they SUCK with a RUBBER, which really is so incomprehensible to me I would rather whack off, at the least I would Never ever ever PAY to get a covered BJ)
and a taxista confirmed this for me, as we discussed how these places are all set up because they are all set up the same way.
He took me down south to casa , which had a disco style sitting arrangement (I told him I preferred the ambience in a place like Escoces), but what happened? the same fucking thing that happens at EVERY casa.
about 20 girls came over, shook your hand, told you their name and then walked away. Of course, given such a number within such a short time I almost immediately would forget all the fucking names and then the girls would disappear toward the back to their table(s) sitting with themselves.
you get no play, never a sly smile, not even a wink. You get NOTHING.
This means you are just a number to them, just as they are a number to you.
This effectively means you are spinning the roulette table each and every time, shaking the dice in your hand thinking, "do you feel lucky punk?".
Yeah, sure you can call a girl over and try to establish something, but it´s quite difficult to break thru their usual "client wall" and even then you don´t even really know which one or which ones to call over. I almost always seperate the ones I´d see into "ones I´d fuck" and others I would not. Then it´s up to the ones in the ones I´d fuck group to somehow differentiate themselves, grab my attention, be a coquette, WHATEVER.
this all according to the old tradition of "let the girl pick you" which at least some of us here subscribe to (I certainly do). this will never ever happen in a casa. You will not be picked. Ever. You will not even be noticed. You are a number, and she is a number.
Roll the dice and take your chances. I don´t pày $ to take sexual chances. (at the very least I think the odds are on my side) Perhaps places like Rio and the DR a while back (and Cuba) forever spoiled me with this.
even in a fucking Asian South Eastern fishbowl the girls will give you some feedback, even if it´s acting.
you will get NONE in a casa. And without sounding arrogant if I don´t get some kind of verbal and or physical feedback, the odds of some "typical monger" getting some is completely nonexistent.
and re asking for something like anal (bbbj is somewhat different), it is my personal conviction that even if the girl thinks about a dick in her ass 24 hours a day, if she doesn´t know you and isn´t comfortable with you, when presented with such a blunt question, she won´t readily admit to her craving. It´s a cultural thing, a "what kind of a girl do you think I am" kind of thing though yes in a casa more girls will probably be blunt.
if you go to a place like Cali merely to prowl the casas and to find what are merely new "numeric" holes for you to stick your dick into, you may want to reexamine your life and what you are doing with it. If it´s a mere bluballs release, that is what they are there for but then crawling around them all day for a week etc wouldn´t qualify as such, eh?
you are free to disagree of course, but that is my opinion. (and since I´ve already stated it, fully this time, I won´t return to the subject)
p.s. any lists, secret lists and secret places, places to share, etc etc etc
this fucking makes me laugh. really really laugh. Find yourself a decent taxi driver.
Casas de cita (what Colombians call them) are probably the most developed industry in this city. There are probably at least a hundred of them, probably more, and that´s not including some of the "spas" up north that readily and easily offer full service. Some of the casas are open 24 hours a day, as a matter of fact, I´ve just discovered a place 2 doors away from my hospedaje is 24 hour casa HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Some may be better than others, but often it merely depends on the night, and what girls are working, etc.
so please, just remember what you are doing is blowing hot air into your fist and rolling the dice, hoping for craps. If I´m going to pay, I insist on better odds.
so just ask yourself - do you feel lucky, punk?
Col Bog, thanks for the report.-
I am pretty sure Casa de Marquez got assimilated into Dr Amor some time ago. They have a couple of houses joined together at Dr Amor... I think the second house used to be CdM.
I know what you are talking about Catire, but sometimes things work out. I picked a cutie at one of the casas and ended up getting along well with her since she was a super freak and up for just about anything. She gave me her cell number and my next trip to Cali she met me at the Inter. That said, I had to go through more than 10 casas driving all over Cali and wasting a lot of time until I got lucky. Next trip I´m going to give her another call.
[QUOTE=Catire]Have come to believe casas suck. A taxista confirmed for me how these places are all set up because they are all set up the same way. Any lists, secret lists and secret places, places to share, etc etc etc this fucking makes me laugh. really really laugh. Casas de cita (what Colombians call them) are probably the most developed industry in this city. There are probably at least a hundred of them, probably more.
(A Catire quote from a post 4-1-07) I have not prowled thru the casas at all, merely stuck my head in a couple of times and only to about five thus far, with frankly little to no desire to go beyond that number.[/QUOTE]
Catire,
You have merely stuck your head into FIVE casas and you think ALL Cali Casas suck because some taxi driver told you they are all the same? Well my friend, it is me who is laughing because I have been to/explored/fucked at/been very pleased with/been quite disgusted with etc... about 70 Casas de Cita in Cali thus far. I can say from EXPERIENCE that there are some Casas that are VERY different than what you have seen. I also came across a few Casas that VERY FEW GINGOS even know of and a couple of places (not Casas per say) are so new that NO GRINGOS had ever been to them before my Gringo ass graced their doorway.
[QUOTE=Cachorro] I am pretty sure Casa de Marquez got assimilated into Dr. Amor some time ago.[/QUOTE]
Cachorro,
From talking to one of the maids at Dr. Amor, you are right that Casa de Marquez was the name used about 4 years ago.
[QUOTE=Col Bog 1]This afternoon, I managed to be free at 4:30pm.
So I left my hotel and asked the taxi driver to take me to the Clinica del Dr Amor (Ave 2N 23-xx).
After some difficulty, he finally found it and I got in the place.[/QUOTE]
Col Bog 1,
Your difficulty in finding Dr. Amor's was because the address is NOT Ave 2N 23-xx. The address is Ave 2A Norte #23-33. The "A" after the number (Ave 2) makes it a totally different street location.
I'm glad you were pleased at Calle 23aN 2N-95. By the way the name of this place is "Ropa de Bebe". The gay gentleman that served you is my friend. He will make every effort to match you up with a girl that does hat you are looking for. Yes sometimes they lack great looks but none are ever doggy. I have had plenty of BBBJ's there but do not prefer anal and I don't DATY in high traffic Casas no matter how good the pussy looks like.
Here's one at Ropa de Bebe that gave excellent BBBJ and after a while went bare back all the way, tight pussy as well.
Cheers,
Cubanut
[QUOTE=Cubanut]Catire,
You have merely stuck your head into FIVE casas and you think ALL Cali Casas suck because some taxi driver told you they are all the same? Well my friend, it is me who is laughing because I have been to/explored/fucked at/been very pleased with/been quite disgusted with etc... about 70 Casas de Cita in Cali thus far. I can say from EXPERIENCE that there are some Casas that are VERY different than what you have seen. I also came asorss a few Casas that VERY FEW GINGOS even know of and a couple of places (not Casas per say) are so new that NO GRINGOS had ever been to them before my Gringo ass graced their doorway.
Cubanut[/QUOTE]
I´m probably up to 10-12 now and I am pretty sure it won´t be any more.
I NEVER said they are all the same, I said the "setup" is the same (bunch of girls come over offer their hand, say their name and then leave to sit in a corner among themselves). You seem to have missed my POINT entirely, which is how I personally strongly prefer a little interplay/interaction between myself and a girl even BEFORE I call her over. This is called "salesmanship", some of the girls are very good at it, but a trained eye can typically spot the fake (though some of the girls are so good it almost doesn´t matter LOL ), and more often than not, you find yourself a girl who actually is interested in you for other reasons than your monger money (she already knows she´s going to get paid, it´s icing on the cake) , you can establish some "chemistry" before taking her into a room and then the odds are in your favor.
This happens all the time for e.g. in a place like a Rio termas, and needless to say, pricing aside, the Rio termas experience is highly superior to a Cali casa experience in every way.
sure the settings and even the talent and the pricing, etc will differ among so many casas. And of course, it also depends on the DAY in question because rarely does a girl work every night.
but my BASIC point is it does NOT MATTER, because the "set up" is the SAME.
all over the place, essentially. You are a number, they are a number and you are rolling dice. Perhaps it´s the "true monger´s" dream because under this scenario every john is the same, you are an appendage and ATM and they are a hole, and you can put up reviews, etc etc (even though this is basically bs as well)
the so called "gringo factor" also does NOT MATTER, because the vast majority in all of these casas, even the ones most frequented by gringos of the clientele is COLOMBIAN and of course the set up and the experience is set up for Colombian tastes. So frankly, who really gives a shit that you have been to some casas no gringos have been to? and how are they different in the setup I talk about? they are not. Interestingly enough the times I have stuck my head into some of these casas, including some in the south that have never been mentioned anywhere, I have yet to see a gringo, probably because I stick my head in there late evening or at night. If that is something that is so important for someone, simply learn to say in Spanish to a taxista, take me to places I´ll never find a gringo, and voila. If you your Spanish is good enough to converse and indicate what you are looking for, you will find someone to take you where and for what you are looking for.
a good example would be the one time I stuck my head into Clinica de Amor one late afternoon. The place was fairly full and there was not a SINGLE gringo there btw (though this may be one of the most popular gringo visited casas). Guess what? The kid working there quickly ascertained I spoke Spanish, took me aside and did a full blown explanation for me for more than 10 mins , almost acting like a "papasan", telling me all I have to do is tell him what I am looking for (bbbj, anal for e.g.) and he will tell me which girls do this, as well as just overall recommendations, takeout, etc. etc you name it. Despite the fact I usually strongly eschew so called mamasans and papasans, tthis was done in such a non stressful and non sleazy manner, I actually appreciated it. It was almost like having a buddy kind of showing you the ropes. So you see it´s really not rocket science, all you need to know is to speak Spanish.
but good luck with your casa scouring, perhaps you´ll be able to publish a casa guide for idiots and make some money off it. There most certainly are suckers born every minute.
p.s. David33, you are most certainly correct. I am sure if I had nothing to do but get to know various casa girls I could build up an impressive black book for housecalls. But this will take time, effort and some luck. (certainly one can get lucky early on, in fact my first time in a casa I encountered a girl who was there for her 2nd night and had yet to be with a "john". I smelled her out a mile away and of course I spent an hour with her, it was highly worthwhile. If I return here for a longer term stay as I am considering I may even try that approach.
[QUOTE=Cachorro]Col Bog, thanks for the report.-
I am pretty sure Casa de Marquez got assimilated into Dr Amor some time ago. They have a couple of houses joined together at Dr Amor... I think the second house used to be CdM.[/QUOTE]Hi Cachorro.
Yes, I have been told the same.
Dr Amor absorbed the neighbours houses including CdM.
I noted the address in a good post that gives Cali's best place addresses and it would be good if someone could update that information.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Cubanut]Col Bog 1,
Your difficulty in finding Dr. Amor's was because the address is NOT Ave 2N 23-xx. The address is Ave 2A Norte #23-33. The "A" after the number (Ave 2) makes it a totally different street location.
I'm glad you were pleased at Calle 23aN 2N-95. By the way the name of this place is "Ropa de Bebe". The gay gentleman that served you is my friend. He will make every effort to match you up with a girl that does hat you are looking for. Yes sometimes they lack great looks but none are ever doggy. I have had plenty of BBBJ's there but do not prefer anal and I don't DATY in high traffic Casas no matter how good the pussy looks like.
Here's one at Ropa de Bebe that gave excellent BBBJ and after a while went bare back all the way, tight pussy as well.
Cheers,
Cubanut[/QUOTE]Hi Cubanut.
I wrote Ave 2N 23-xx because I didn't had the exact address, but when you have both Ave and Calle, you may found a place even if it has no sign on its door if you're lucky.
But in that case I took no chance and said to my Taxi's driver that I was going to Dr Amor's clinic, and, as it was said in some other posts, all taxis known the place. Even if mine had some trouble to remember.
For the Ave 2 and 2A, yes, I know that it means (usually) the next carrera. In fact, I was able to find the Ave 2A, but it stopped at calle 23 and didn't exist anymore in higher Calle.
I walked around the block 3 times, and saw some more places with girls on Ave 2 but they were very lowscale.
If you walk one block to the right of Dr Amor's clinic, you find Farahon's club that is only opened at night.
I was impressed of the quality and quantity of the girls at Ropa de Bebe.
I noticed that the gentleman (as you said) was a Gay and he really helped me advising me well.
I'm surprise that you don't DATY but perform BBFS.
What's the logic?
I'm just crazy about DATY and anal and can't resist sucking off a nice pussy and ass, don't know why, but I'm like that.
But I try (I fail some times) to resist going BBFS, look like much more risky.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Catire]I´m probably up to 10-12 now and I am pretty sure it won´t be any more.
I NEVER said they are all the same, I said the "setup" is the same (bunch of girls come over offer their hand, say their name and then leave to sit in a corner among themselves). You seem to have missed my POINT entirely, which is how I personally strongly prefer a little interplay/interaction between myself and a girl even BEFORE I call her over. This is called "salesmanship", some of the girls are very good at it, but a trained eye can typically spot the fake (though some of the girls are so good it almost doesn´t matter LOL ), and more often than not, you find yourself a girl who actually is interested in you for other reasons than your monger money (she already knows she´s going to get paid, it´s icing on the cake) , you can establish some "chemistry" before taking her into a room and then the odds are in your favor.
This happens all the time for e.g. in a place like a Rio termas, and needless to say, pricing aside, the Rio termas experience is highly superior to a Cali casa experience in every way.[/QUOTE]
Catire,
Stop it!, Please, I'm hurting myself cracking up laughing! You actually think the "Setup" is all the same as well? Well "yeah", if all you do is tell a taxi driver to take you to "Casas" what did you expect?
Do you really think Rio termas are the only places where a monger can smell out a girl first before making a decision to be intimate? Believe me I know a thing or two about Rio termas since I have been going to Rio as well for over 14 years now.
Apparently or actually (to be more precise) you definitely missed MY POINT. There are MANY places where you can sit and talk/dance/drink with girls for a short or long while before deciding to do the deed. These were the places i found that were not really "Casas" per say. I found Night Clubs that are not even advertised because the "in the know" clientel is more than sufficient to support the number of chicas that work there. Also like I said before I even found a couple of places that are trying some "new concepts" and I must say I was very pleased.
For example: Here's one concept that is different than the regular "setup". I found a place that specializes in orgies. You enter as a couple to get in. Oh yeah, if you don't have a girl to make up your couple, you can rent one on the spot that will be happy to participate in the cum-fest!
The point I was really making was that you are making general assumptions about mongering in Cali based on very little first hand experience.
[QUOTE=Barefoot Chap]Cubanut has never been to Colombia and made love to a non-pro.[/QUOTE]
Barefoot Chap,
Assuming that by non-pro you mean a girl that can potentially be a "true love", this is absolutely correct. I'll repeat what I have written before on this board and many others for YEARS now: I am in no way interested in finding a "true love". I did all my "free loving" throughout the 80's and early 90's and am way beyond that now. I like the no time/no effort of mongering to bed down with many rather than long time ass kissing to bed down with one.
However, although making love to a non-pro is of no interest to me, I do have many non-pro Colombianas that I party with or just sometimes just hang with. I prefer it this way.
[QUOTE=Barefoot Chap]Natalia went to cartagena with us and she didin't charge anything then. From what I hear they all are p4p now. It just makes sense to charge as long as there are men willing to pay. I never pulled out a penny for them directly, but did buy lots of dinners, plane tickets, bathing suits, ron de medellin, clothes........It costs more but it is the way I like it.[/QUOTE]
So Barefoot Chap, I guess this means you haven't made love to a non-pro in Colombia either. It seems you just like paying a lot more for your pussy than I do.
[QUOTE=Barefoot Chap]Sorry for the flame but it is true and it irritates me when he (Cubanut) writes his little love letters and quotes. I blame him and his two left feet and lack of Spanish for ruining Cuba. Actually, Cuba is really nice but that is for another day.[/QUOTE]
Huh? (Ok I admit you got me scratching my head on this one.) The last time I looked down I had a right and left foot. Also I can't remember the last time any native Spanish speaker did not think I was fluent in Spanish. And as for ME ruining Cuba? Well, Barefoot, I don't know what your "on" but whatever it is, it's obviously not good for you.
[QUOTE=Barefoot Chap]I will always book trips to places without so many gringos because I like the adventure. Viva Colombia! I also have a lot of respect for other global travelers willing to explore the not so explored.[/QUOTE]
Funny that you should say this but yet have no respect for "yours truly" being one of those who travels the globe to explore the not so explored.
[QUOTE=Barefoot Chap]I have never been to Cali but last night I banged a 24 year old Cali girl living in the states. Well I don't see any reason for me to go to Colombia anytime soon as there are so many Colombians here in the states. Why go to colombia when colombia can come to you?[/QUOTE]
So Barefoot Chap, you have never been to Cali yet you go out of your way to flame me out here on the Cali Reports thread? For what reason may I ask?
Cheers,
Cubanut
[QUOTE=Master Yoda]Ricker,
Sometimes I wonder if its even worth going to Cali.
I mean there is a good chance nothing will happen but its just the fact the women are so damn hot.
Is Cali your favorite town?[/QUOTE]
Every city I go to in Colombia the chicas are hot! :)
My favorite city for walking about and exploring is Medellin, for a party is Cali and for meeting non-pro chicas is Barranquilla (I love las costenitas!)
Of course I find the Paisitas of Medellin pretty, but I personally prefer the darker skin and the rear-ends of the costenas :) Just my own preference.
Also, I've had several Paisa girlfriends and can anyone say "mucha drama" ... drama filled in my experience.
Cali, without a doubt, feels the most dangerous.
I don't walk around afraid, but I definitely keep my guard up a bit more.
Here's a little Calena I met a while back.
Suerte!
[QUOTE=Barefoot Chap]Cubanut, Sorry about wasting your time! I just knew you would go through the forum for hours trying to find my posts so you could counter. You should try to post relavent information. Since this forum is your social life I think you should do a report on the close proximity of the pacific coastline to Cali and how we as Americans can profit by developing or discoveriing the beaches there. Obviously the colombians have no interest in it. Given the prices of pacific coast properties in the USA, Costa Rica, Panama, Mexico, Canada.......I have to be on to something. I want more than just pussy reports. The following should sum it up and end all reports on pussy....There are girls in colombia, you'll get laid for sure in colombia, you shouldn't have to pay for it, they should pay us. Now instead of talking about dark rooms with poor colombians lets talk about bright and sunny rooms with hot colombians in your future cubanut mansion on the pacific! I need to be more engaged than this forum is offering at the moment.[/QUOTE]
Barefoot Chap,
Actually it only took about 5 minutes because most of what you write is self contradicting, so I had a lot to choose from.
I don't know why you would think I would be interesed in "coastal property" but if that is your thing and you say you "must be onto something" then run with it brother. I could care less for beach.
I do like where you say the the chicas should be paying us for sex but that is not a reality my friend.
As for your idea for everyone to end all reports on pussy: Why? Why does it bother you that men write reports on pussy? This is a Report Thread in case you haven't noticed. Your ramblings belong elsewhere.
Oh wait, I know the solution, it's quite obvious:
ATTENTION JACKSON! I hereby respectfully request that you grant Barefoot Chap his own Thread so that he (Barefoot Chap) may share his wonderful experiences of NOT going to Colombia with us. Afterall it will not use up much band width since there will be absolutely no talk of pussy on Barefoot Chap's thread. However I'm sure it will serve all well to tell us where to find the nicest seashells.
Cheers,
Cubanut
PS. Here's a Bright and Sunny room for you with a not so poor Colombiana.
I saw it there, read it, now its gone!
[QUOTE=Ricker]Every city I go to in Colombia the chicas are hot! :)
My favorite city for walking about and exploring is Medellin, for a party is Cali and for meeting non-pro chicas is Barranquilla (I love las costenitas!)
Of course I find the Paisitas of Medellin pretty, but I personally prefer the darker skin and the rear-ends of the costenas :) Just my own preference.
Also, I've had several Paisa girlfriends and can anyone say "mucha drama" ... drama filled in my experience.
Cali, without a doubt, feels the most dangerous.
I don't walk around afraid, but I definitely keep my guard up a bit more.
Here's a little Calena I met a while back.
Suerte![/QUOTE] I like Cali too as well as BAQ. I am not really interested in Medellin either. I mean I am sure the women are hot but like you I prefer the Morena y Triguena look which seems to be mostly in BAQ and Cali. Med has lots of blancas.
The problem with Cali is most women I speak to seem to online, that are from Cali, already have kids, which is a little fucked up. I have a hard time finding childless pussy.
I just don't like damaged goods. The pussy just isn't as tight
[QUOTE=Cubanut]Catire,
Stop it!, Please, I'm hurting myself cracking up laughing! You actually think the "Setup" is all the same as well? Well "yeah", if all you do is tell a taxi driver to take you to "Casas" what did you expect?
Do you really think Rio termas are the only places where a monger can smell out a girl first before making a decision to be intimate? Believe me I know a thing or two about Rio termas since I have been going to Rio as well for over 14 years now.
Apparently or actually (to be more precise) you definitely missed MY POINT. There are MANY places where you can sit and talk/dance/drink with girls for a short or long while before deciding to do the deed. These were the places i found that were not really "Casas" per say. I found Night Clubs that are not even advertised because the "in the know" clientel is more than sufficient to support the number of chicas that work there. Also like I said before I even found a couple of places that are trying some "new concepts" and I must say I was very pleased.
For example: Here's one concept that is different than the regular "setup". I found a place that specializes in orgies. You enter as a couple to get in. Oh yeah, if you don't have a girl to make up your couple, you can rent one on the spot that will be happy to participate in the cum-fest!
The point I was really making was that you are making general assumptions about mongering in Cali based on very little first hand experience.
Cubanut[/QUOTE]
Dude, please.
yes, my first hand "mongering experience" isn´t nearly as extensive as yours and that is entirely by choice and will continue to be that way as I don´t travel merely to fuck, but my assumptions aren´t incorrect in what I was talking about. I can usually find out thru conversation in any environment with several people precisely what such an environment and others like it are like. Since I´m a curious sort, I tend to have such conversations, and more so with the girls, for eg. than taxistas.
I told the taxista PRECISELY what I was looking for and I told him PRECISELY what I do not like about the typical casa setup etc. Though I will make errors in my Spanish, a source of continuous frustration, I never ever ever have any problems with communication, specific communication or even having a fairly detailed argument about something. He merely confirmed to me even while taking me to a casa with a different "ambiance" that the basic setup is the same.
and of course I am citing rather extreme examples and metaphors to make a point, though I stand by that point. I have had girls come up to me and talk to me, even in a casa, my point is this is definitely the exception rather than the rule.
I know about your "nightclubs" too. It would be the "mongering ambiance" of my preference where you do get the interplay, etc. They are to be found on Carrera Quince. There are lots of them. What I don´t like about them are the high take out multas, I don´t like to fuck "in house" and on a clock. It might be fairly dangerous for a tourist to go there though so do so at your own risk.
I should probably in fairness also point out I have a definite issue to fucking something that has already been fucked several times, or many more that very same day (even in a rio terma) which is an issue with casa and I don´t fuck during the day, so I won´t try stunts like being the first one there when they open, etc.
I also know about your swinger´s club. They advertise regularly in ElPais in the adults classified section.
so what else are you going to tell me in great secrecy , oh great " first hand monger researcher"?
if you think you have stumbled upon the concept of "getting away from the gringos", you are sadly mistaken, I would be Chairman of the Board or at least on the Board of Directors of any such organization, especially when it comes to sex tourist related activities (as a rule of thumb you won`t find me within 300 yards of a place like Medellin Mansion or any such facsimile)
but please, don´t mind me, carry on with your "research", I am sure many here appreciate it and I´d hate to deflate your raison d' etre.
on the point of "gringos fucking things up", etc, as much as I basically agree with the concept, I still don´t see a single shred of evidence that this has changed the Cali P4P scene in any way shape or form. Even in the most popular gringo visited establishments, the overwhelming majority of the clientele is and remains Colombian. Ergo, no shred of evidence to support this hypothesis, as much as I´d like to support it. What´s interesting is that during my stay here thus far I have bumped into very few gringos/extranjeros period, and most of them have been of the backpacker LP variety.
you learn more "jerga" (aka slang) hanging out with the guys, but I have been limited to hanging out with the girls.
I´ve noticed they incessantly use the word "marica" to refer to each other during conversations. It seems this is the Colombiana equivalent of the way black and or urban girls or homosexual men will use the word "girl" or "girlfriend" sprinkled in within a conversation.
not sure if this is limited to Cali, you may want to try it on the coast. (actually you can´t, it´s limited to girl on girl talk, but run it by your gf)
the male equivalent, though there are several (kind of like saying "dude") is parse (accent on the e) and especially among the military, exmilitary, it is lansa.
still feel weird being called mono, as monkey immediately comes to mind LOL
[QUOTE=Catire]I also know about your swinger´s club. They advertise regularly in ElPais in the adults classified section. I also know about your "nightclubs" too. They are to be found on Carrera Quince.
If you think you have stumbled upon the concept of "getting away from the gringos", you are sadly mistaken, I would be Chairman of the Board or at least on the Board of Directors of any such organization, especially when it comes to sex tourist related activities (as a rule of thumb you won`t find me within 300 yards of a place like Medellin Mansion or any such facsimile)[/QUOTE]
Catire,
Oh boy, this is really getting old so this will be my last post in response "Mr. Chairman". Really now what is it that is pissing off here that you think you have to prove you have the pulse of the city of Cali? Wait, don't answer cause don't care.
BTW- The one adverised in th El Pais is the one I was refering to in my last post but there is one swingers club I found through a chica that does not advertise anywhere, good luck finding that one since it is only by word of mouth.
Also, the night clubs I spoke of are not the ones on Carrera Quince (like Las Profesionales). No my friend but funny thing is that I found this particular nightclub through the street vender outside of Las Profesionales. You see my friend I ask and ask and ask everyone I meet at such places "where are the hidden places" (in Spanish of course). In all fairness 80 percent of the places were not in fact unkowns and of the 20 percent that were unkown, were bland to awful but then you are left with th 10 percent that really makes it all worth while.
[QUOTE=Catire]I should probably in fairness also point out I have a definite issue to fucking something that has already been fucked several times, or many more that very same day (even in a rio terma) which is an issue with casa and I don´t fuck during the day, so I won´t try stunts like being the first one there when they open, etc.[/QUOTE]
What you need to do my friend is to work on a non-pro girlfriend and leave the serious mongering to those with lesser hangups.
[QUOTE=Catire]but please, don´t mind me, carry on with your "research", I am sure many here appreciate it and I´d hate to deflate your raison d' etre.[/QUOTE]
Why that is actually the nicest thing you could have said. Yes, it is true that finding beautiful pussy to fuck is my raison d' etre (reason to exist). I'm sorry for you that it is not yours.
"Maintenant soyez un bon petit garçon et sortez pour jouer"
Cheers,
Cubanut
yes, I will leave you to DOO your "serious mongering" in Spanish "any Colombian would recognize as fluent". (hint, Profesionales as a plural would have to be Las Profesionales, which it indeed is)
this should keep me chuckling all night long.
It should keep you busy for a very long time because I should have said that P4P is the most developed industry in this city, not just casas de cita. We haven´t even touched on all the spas that include full service and I have seen SW´s in the south as well.
but you don´t even need to search side streets and seek special swinger clubs, you can DOO what one guy did in this thread some time back, which was walk up to some women in a market and bluntly (though I actually do not know how blunt or circumspect he was) offer them say 50K for a new "beautiful pussy" (which will tend to be more new and "beautiful" than one getting fucked tens of times daily in your normal P4P places that you constantly seek).
In a city where most people make the minimum wage of 400K (200 US) a month, your batting average should be better than Barry Bonds´.
we´ll stay abreast of how you are dooing.
and really, don´t feel sorry for me. LOL.
[QUOTE=Catire] ... on the point of "gringos fucking things up", etc, as much as I basically agree with the concept, I still don´t see a single shred of evidence that this has changed the Cali P4P scene in any way shape or form. Even in the most popular gringo visited establishments, the overwhelming majority of the clientele is and remains Colombian. Ergo, no shred of evidence to support this hypothesis, as much as I´d like to support it. What´s interesting is that during my stay here thus far I have bumped into very few gringos/extranjeros period, and most of them have been of the backpacker LP variety ... [/QUOTE]
Si senor ... the gringo city of choice these days is not Cali, it's Medellin by far.
[QUOTE=Catire]
... still feel weird being called mono, as monkey immediately comes to mind LOL... [/QUOTE]
I get called mono too ... still cracks me up.
I like the word for popcorn n Venezuela ... what is it again ... Katufa, as opposed to crespetos in Colombia.
[QUOTE=Ricker]Si senor ... the gringo city of choice these days is not Cali, it's Medellin by far.[/QUOTE]
this is good, let´s keep it that way. Word has it Poblado has already become like Laguito (in CTG)
any way to build a big fence around Poblado? One has to quarantine the disease before it spreads, no?
(unfortunately I have forgotten the word for popcorn)
I´m going to check out the most "bacano" (means "cool" in colombiano) electronica/house/club club in the city (well it´s actually outside the city)
should be interesting.
[QUOTE=Catire]this is good, let´s keep it that way. Word has it Poblado has already become like Laguito (in CTG)
any way to build a big fence around Poblado? One has to quarantine the disease before it spreads, no?
(unfortunately I have forgotten the word for popcorn)
I´m going to check out the most "bacano" (means "cool" in colombiano) electronica/house/club club in the city (well it´s actually outside the city)
should be interesting.[/QUOTE]
Actually el Poblado is not that much like Laguito in CTG, except for there's a lot of gringos running around.
El Poblado does not have hardly any PFP scene, except of course the Mansion and Loutron massage place.
El Poblado is where los ricos (the rich people) live. Lots of eye-candy, but too stuck-up for my taste, I like the more humble chicas :)
Have fun en el club que es lo mas bacano de Cali !!
[QUOTE=Ricker]Actually el Poblado is not that much like Laguito in CTG, except for there's a lot of gringos running around.
El Poblado does not have hardly any PFP scene, except of course the Mansion and Loutron massage place.
El Poblado is where los ricos (the rich people) live. Lots of eye-candy, but too stuck-up for my taste, I like the more humble chicas :)
Have fun en el club que es lo mas bacano de Cali !![/QUOTE]
Poblado: Tons of Gringos running around,, and the nicest eye-candy to be found in MDE, but in places where I usually get a second look from the chicas,, I was receiving the COLD shoulder, these people in POBLADO could care less if your gringo or how much money you "think" you have, these people all dress nice and have money and have nice cars. I felt like i was in BAL HARBOUR, or OCEAN DRIVE, these are two luxe places here in MIAMI. TOO TOO stuck up for my taste as well and that being said its almost a turn-off which you almost dont want to even bother with the hassle. It was kinda like here in South Beach where the girls charge you to look at them, lol Thank-god my boy took me to the "pobre areas" were you can STILL find a humilde chica there if you look hard enough. phew! p.s. come to think of it, I dont see it as a far stretch for POBLADO or MDE becoming another CTG or CR in the next 3 to 5 years, Heck even the metro is addressing the stops in ENGLISH now.
[QUOTE=Ricker]Actually el Poblado is not that much like Laguito in CTG, except for there's a lot of gringos running around.
El Poblado does not have hardly any PFP scene, except of course the Mansion and Loutron massage place.
El Poblado is where los ricos (the rich people) live. Lots of eye-candy, but too stuck-up for my taste, I like the more humble chicas. [/QUOTE]
I agree that Poblado is completely different from Laguito.
I too like Poblado because of all the nice eye-candy but would also agree that cities like Cali have friendlier chicas. Medellin as a whole is not really my favorite city in Colombia either. Truth be told, as far as city living goes I much rather prefer Bucaramanga or Armenia. Much more calmer in theses cities.
I do like the Mansion/Castillo setup and will always suggest staying there for newbies and veterans alike. Unlike Loutron's, for example, one can chill out by the pool at the Mansion while feeling out (or up) a Paisa or two or three...
Cheers,
Cubanut
Miami- I deleted it.
Cuba- I'm not the man upstairs nor an angel, but why call someone "sorry" and refer to his posts as garbage? One man's garbage is another man's treasure. JMO. I also don't agree that a monger has to find a gal that's been fucked 5 times a day or even once that day to be considered as one doing some serious mongering. Heck, I'd applaud a monger more for finding the 10 that HASN'T already had her daily quota or even first fuck of the day.
Master- Yep, the kid issue.. I've kind of noticed that about Cali as well, but I probably don't talk to a large enough sample of Calenas to really throw it out as such.... but I have met many Calenas online and in fact most of my fav's do have a bambino o 2. Just wierd as I have exponentially more Barranquillera contacts in my book and few have kids.
Catire- throw me in the category of not real interested in fucking someone that's already been a few rounds that day. I know what you mean... I don't care if she's a 10... just the thought of it makes me sick. I rarely partake at a casa and while I have waited around to see what comes out next, it's mainly just to assure myself that geez what a waste of time. I'd much prefer a non-pro or even that idea of just offering out cash to hotties anywhere I can find them just to not have the thought in my head how many other dicks have been in her today... but I probably would never do that either, as part of the fun is creating the rapport and relationship and see what comes of it... sex is usually much much better.
Re words... Mono- get called it all the time. Marica- on the coast(Barranquilla) I see it used 2 ways... 1) homosexual as you mentioned and 2) I actually hear it used quite often among close-knit groups of friends(guys) in the middle of a conversation.. I.e. Marica, yada yada yada..Actually one friend always says... "Marica para la voz" when there are a lot of people speaking and he is trying to get everyone's attention.
Parse... Never ever heard that one on the coast. Never. Heard it in Medellin and I had to ask my costena gf (who was with me) what the hell that person said. Didn't understand a word of it out of the paisas mouth that said it and "parse" was one of the words.
Popcorn... crispetas.
I think we all on this Cali forum pretty much agree that Cali, Barranquilla, Bucaramanga, and even the Pereira/Armenia/Manizales triangle(though they too are considered Paisas) are more inviting for our tastes than a Paisa. Fortunately most Colombianos and most gringos going to Colombia looking for a wife or to get laid would disagree. To each his own. If you like Calenas you probably like Barranquilleras and vice versa. Many say Paisas are hot. I just don't see my willie standing up very much for them. Every other chica I pass in the street in Cali or Barranquilla gets my blood flowing. But Medellin... well even in Poblado, it just doesn't do it for me. But like Ricker... it's something about the ass and triguena skin color... and I like petite gals as well. I can't stand big tits and I really prefer jetblack hair so these blonds and or white gals which most gringos drool over just don't do it for me. In fact I've rarely even seen a girl in Parque Lleras that I would even consider banging. I have seen some hotties at some discos in other areas though. There typically are a few 32a o 32b chicas, 95-105lb, jet black hair, triguenas that know how to wear the shit out of a pair of jeans in Medellin but it is just not nearly the numbers that you see in Barranquilla or Cali. And me personally, I'd much prefer fuck a younger gal and less experienced gal any day of the week over some sort of experienced hor in a casa. I dont care how good she fucks... she can be butt naked and be known as the best fuck in Colombia but if she's not petite, small tits, a tight pussy, black hair, and under 25 yrs old my willie won't even wake up for her with a blue pill. Ok maybe I can could go without the black hair... and the age thing, well I used to always think she'd need to be below 21. However my gf is 25 so I guess that sort of changes things... though she looks like she's barely 18. That's probably why I like her. She has all the qualities I like and if everyone thinks she's 16 -18 when she's 25 well... I'm guessing I'm still in luck when she's 30.
I guess it's good that everyone likes the gals of Medellin and thinks the world of the eye-candy there. I don't call them eye-candy... I turn my head at very few of them. To each his own. Like I said, one man's garbage is another's treasure and vice versa. Though I'd never call any of these gals garbage... as regardless of looks you have to admit, attitude and loving-wise
there's nothing like a Colombiana. They are all treasures in my book. It's just there are some that I would bang and others I wouldn't.
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]I saw it there, read it, now its gone![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Winner71]
Parse... Never ever heard that one on the coast. Never. Heard it in Medellin and I had to ask my costena gf (who was with me) what the hell that person said. Didn't understand a word of it out of the paisas mouth that said it and "parse" was one of the words.
Popcorn... crispetas.
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"Parse" is used in Medellin, like the word "Pana" in Venezuela, hear it a lot in Maracaibo. Used to mean good friend.
Popcorn ... yes, crispetas in Colombia ... Kotufa in Venezuela ... popo ropo in Guatemala ... who cares :)
Buen dia amigos!
[QUOTE=Ricker]Popcorn ... yes, crispetas in Colombia ... Kotufa in Venezuela ... popo ropo in Guatemala ... who cares :)
Buen dia amigos![/QUOTE]
Ricker,
In Cuba it's "rositas de maiz".
But then again, like you said, who cares.
Cheers
Cubanut
[QUOTE=Winner71]
Master- Yep, the kid issue.. I've kind of noticed that about Cali as well, but I probably don't talk to a large enough sample of Calenas to really throw it out as such.... but I have met many Calenas online and in fact most of my fav's do have a bambino o 2. Just wierd as I have exponentially more Barranquillera contacts in my book and few have kids.[/quote]I hate that kid thing. I mean these ladies need to learn to close their legs. Not open them to every guy.
[quote]Catire- throw me in the category of not real interested in fucking someone that's already been a few rounds that day. I know what you mean... I don't care if she's a 10... just the thought of it makes me sick.[/quote] Same here. I hate to feel like the next guy on the production line.
[quote]I'd much prefer a non-pro or even that idea of just offering out cash to hotties anywhere I can find them just to not have the thought in my head how many other dicks have been in her today... but I probably would never do that either, as part of the fun is creating the rapport and relationship and see what comes of it... sex is usually much much better.[/quote] I too am into the non-pro scene. It feels alittle better. I would only use pros action as a last resort if I have absolutely no success [possible]. Then I will just go to a pro and fuck her till I pass out.
[quote]I think we all on this Cali forum pretty much agree that Cali, Barranquilla, Bucaramanga, and even the Pereira/Armenia/Manizales triangle(though they too are considered Paisas) are more inviting for our tastes than a Paisa. Fortunately most Colombianos and most gringos going to Colombia looking for a wife or to get laid would disagree. To each his own. quote]If you like Calenas you probably like Barranquilleras and vice versa. Many say Paisas are hot. I just don't see my willie standing up very much for them. Every other chica I pass in the street in Cali or Barranquilla gets my blood flowing. But Medellin... well even in Poblado, it just doesn't do it for me. But like Ricker... it's something about the ass and triguena skin color... and I like petite gals as well. I can't stand big tits and I really prefer jetblack hair[/quote]Exactemente. I really like that look too. I really can't describe the look. It's like a tanned look abit like salma hayek in desperado movie. I guess she would be a triguena or Canela. I also like darker tans like morena which would be brown skinned or black women. I also like that long hair up to her ass. The kind you want to pull where she is in the doggy position. I was speaking to one girl that claimed to be partially spanish decent, indian decent and black. A mix of all three. And if I ever meet her I will just knock the chick up. Seriously, i want her to have my babies. She is that HOT. She is from Barranquilla.
[quote]so these blonds and or white gals which most gringos drool over just don't do it for me. In fact I've rarely even seen a girl in Parque Lleras that I would even consider banging. I have seen some hotties at some discos in other areas though. There typically are a few 32a o 32b chicas, 95-105lb, jet black hair, triguenas that know how to wear the shit out of a pair of jeans in Medellin but it is just not nearly the numbers that you see in Barranquilla or Cali.[/quote]Me too. If I wanted pale white, with blond hair I would just stay here in Sex prison.
Its the exotic looks that make me wanna bust nuts in every chica I lay eyes on. I actually want to taste those chicks.
But hey every man has different tastes.
[quote]And me personally, I'd much prefer fuck a younger gal and less experienced gal any day of the week over some sort of experienced hor in a casa. I dont care how good she fucks... she can be butt naked and be known as the best fuck in Colombia but if she's not petite, small tits, a tight pussy, black hair, and under 25 yrs old my willie won't even wake up for her with a blue pill. Ok maybe I can could go without the black hair... and the age thing, well I used to always think she'd need to be below 21. However my gf is 25 so I guess that sort of changes things... though she looks like she's barely 18. That's probably why I like her. She has all the qualities I like and if everyone thinks she's 16 -18 when she's 25 well... I'm guessing I'm still in luck when she's 30. [/quote]I also prefer the same things. And the way I see it if I can get them at 18, I will take her. The younger the better. I am 50+ and a complete gentleman that treats women like queens. They just dont appreciate it in this country. But hopefully in Colombia its different.
[quote]I guess it's good that everyone likes the gals of Medellin and thinks the world of the eye-candy there. I don't call them eye-candy... I turn my head at very few of them. To each his own. Like I said, one man's garbage is another's treasure and vice versa. Though I'd never call any of these gals garbage... as regardless of looks you have to admit, attitude and loving-wise
there's nothing like a Colombiana. They are all treasures in my book. It's just there are some that I would bang and others I wouldn't.[/QUOTE]Very true.
Gents,
Actually I'm back from Cali again but the routine I like doing while in Cali on Sundays is pretty much the same.
I like taking a gal (either pre-arranged or the one that stayed over from Saturday night) out for Sancocho up the moutain the locals call Kilometer 18. There are many restaurants to eat at and I've been to 4 of them now. I like the drive up the mountain for the fresh cool air and the views. It gets a little cool up there so it's always good to bring a jacket or sweat shirt for the girl(s).
One of my favorite restaurants is Las Neblinas. They have a good menu besides the Sancocho de Pollo but it is not that they have great Sancocho that I like them because they don't. Personally so far I much prefer the Sanchoco I've had at Simon Parrillada back in the city over any of the mountain places. However, I come back to Las Neblinas or stop there even when I go to another spot for one thing, their fantastic Arepa de Choclo. To be more pricise, theis is actually an arepa rellena con queso y mantequilla (arepa filled with cheese and butter).
The arepa is made from ground corn meal and water made into a batter which they spoon into little griddles. The griddles are then covered and put on a stove where they actually bake rather than cook.
The baked arepa is the cut in half and filled with fresh queso de vaca (cow milk cheese) and butter. The result is a flavor festival in your mouth unlike any other.
Like I said I sometimes stop there just for the arepas de choclo even when I don't go to eat. I guess the women know me pretty good by now because as soon as the ladies see me they start making me fresh arepas either to eat there or "para llevar" (to go).
Cheers,
Cubanut
Cubanut, Thanks for all your information, I see the restaurant menu in your pics have mondongo. I'd could use bowl right now !
[QUOTE=Cubanut]Gents,
Actually I'm back from Cali again but the routine I like doing while in Cali on Sundays is pretty much the same.
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Hey amigo ... you just made me hungry :)
Hope to see you in Cali soon. I'm back finally this Thursday!!!
Did I miss it??
Claro que si!
Take care! Thanks for the fotos, made me home sick :)
[QUOTE=Winner71]
Re words... Mono- get called it all the time. Marica- on the coast(Barranquilla) I see it used 2 ways... 1) homosexual as you mentioned and 2) I actually hear it used quite often among close-knit groups of friends(guys) in the middle of a conversation.. I.e. Marica, yada yada yada..Actually one friend always says... "Marica para la voz" when there are a lot of people speaking and he is trying to get everyone's attention.
Parse... Never ever heard that one on the coast. Never. Heard it in Medellin and I had to ask my costena gf (who was with me) what the hell that person said. Didn't understand a word of it out of the paisas mouth that said it and "parse" was one of the words.
Popcorn... crispetas.[/QUOTE]Hey guys,
I'm new here and new to Colombia although I've been checking out another board for some time. Cubanut, who posts occasionally at the other board, emailed me some useful tips for my first Cali trip last November. Thanks again CN! Will actually be in Medellin for the 1st time (and maybe a few days in Bogotá) the week of Memorial Day. Maybe I'll run into some of you there. I'm considering staying at the Castillo but if someone can vouch for an apartment, then I might go that route.
As for the language thing, yeah I noticed both in the DVDs I have of Colombian movies and the paisas I met in Cali. . . that these folks have their own peculiar "dialect" with a lot of unique jargon. I speak semi-fluent Spanish but I have to admit, I had to go over some of those DVDs like "Rosario Tijeras" several times before I could really pick up what the characters were saying. I'm from New York, but I don't hang out or live anywhere near the neighborhoods in Queens or New Jersey where Colombians have gathered, so most of this jargon was completely new to my ears.
"Marica" is the Colombian way of saying "maricón" (faggot), but it's amusing how certain insult words can be used amongst Colombian friends when addressing or talking to each other. "Huevón" seems to be another popular one. Literally, that means big egg, but basically you're being called a dummy. :-)
"Parse" and "parsero" seem to be slang for friend but I suspect Winner71 is right in that it's not used as much outside the paisa region (Antioquia); didn't hear it in Cali, at least not from the paisa chicks I spoke with.
"Parse" reminds me of "asere" which is friend in Cuba, but you'll almost never hear that outside Cuba, (very rare at least in New York, maybe Miami's different). In NYC, I'm much more likely to hear "socio" or "compay" or maybe even the Spanglish "broder"
As for "bacano" that's the Colombian way of saying cool. In the Spanish Caribbean, New York, and Miami, you're much more likely to hear "chévere" which actually comes from Cuba. For money, "plata" seems to be just as common, if not more often used than "dinero." Also, "que más" or "que hubo" seem to be much more common greetings than "como estás" or "que tal"
My personal favorite has to be "culicagao" which means an unclean ass. It usually refers to little kids who run around with their butts dirty, but it can be used in other situations as well. If your chica calls you this, you've screwed up somewhere! :-)
I personally don't like to use too much slang because I probably would sound ridiculous, like I'm trying too hard to fit in or sound like one of the locals. I'm sure they can tell right away that my Spanish is from somewhere else. Still, it's handy to know some of the jargon.
Hope these comparisons were helpful to some of you. I'll be posting a couple of pics from my Cali trip shortly.
But a client of mine paid me in EUROS and im gonna bring some with me to exchange. I usually just go the the ATM. The EURO on XE.com is almost 2900, im wondering if anybody knows who gives the best exchange rates, Im sure the exchange rates at tourist places EA, Chipe Chape or Palmeto are shitty because they are tourist areas. Thanx in advance.
[QUOTE=Cubanut]Gents,
Actually I'm back from Cali again but the routine I like doing while in Cali on Sundays is pretty much the same.
I like taking a gal (either pre-arranged or the one that stayed over from Saturday night) out for Sancocho up the moutain the locals call Kilometer 18. There are many restaurants to eat at and I've been to 4 of them now. I like the drive up the mountain for the fresh cool air and the views. It gets a little cool up there so it's always good to bring a jacket or sweat shirt for the girl(s).[/QUOTE]Great advice. One of the great things about Cali is that even though it is hot and if you don't want to wait around for the evening breeze you can escape the heat in ~15 minutes with a quick drive up into the hills. Very relaxing.
I miss the arepas de choclo right now. And champus, cholados. Unfortunately I'm stuck on the road for a month and won't make it back to Cali for another month. Thanks for the memories.
Also I'll probably be in Cali for the next puente which is May 21.
Cheers,
Dwayne
marico is heavily used in Venezuela, and it does mean maricon, but its used among friends to fuck with each other. (though tone of voice also comes into play)
they also call each other guebon constantly (meaning idiot/dumbass)
guebon is used in Cali often, but marico is not among guys and I specifically inquired about marica among girls and was told it does NOT have any homosexual tie ins at all. Why they chose that word, I have not asked and Im not sure who would know but it means girl/girlfriend the way African American women use it among themselves in the US.
asere is uniquely Cuban, most of these words are, like pana unique to Venezuela (though theyd understand it here in Cali). Parse is used in Cali heavily so it cant be specific to MDE region.
anyways, this is all street slang, which will almost never be used in polite company anyways.
I get a kick out of girls jokingly calling me guache, or patan.
plata is actually heavily used in many Caribbean Latin countries, including Cuba, DR, Ven and Colombia for starters. I suspect itd be understood anywhere.
yeah, the que mas greeting has thrown me off here in Cali, I have never heard it used this way before.
but these are minor annoyances generally speaking.
speaking of arepas, I find them INFERIOR to what I would buy in Venezuelan areperias. I prefer the arepa being cut and stuffed, which you can get here, but still doesnt seem to taste the same. Often they will put stuff on top of the arepa, which I dont care for at all. Ill cast my vote for the Venezuelan version.
re the club I went to the other night, it actually WAS cool, though I was slightly disappointed. The guest DJ was supposedly one of the biggest names on the continent (from Uruguay) and the entrada was steep at 30K.
It didnt really get going crowdwise (and it never got really crowded) until around 3:30 am (thats not surprising for clubs outside the city limits, they get going after 3 am). The crowd seemed a bit clickquey and of course illicit substances were the order of the night. My shirt reeked of marijuana when I got back, and people were snorting stuff out of what looked like lighters/snorters all night. I would assume there was a fair amount of X floating around as well.
It was definitely an entirely new class level of youth, etc - you wont find these people at your typical Sexta joints and for the first time I saw YOUNG girls with often unnecessary tit jobs, perhaps something Daddy (or more likely their narcotrafficker bf) bought for them when they turned 18. Strangely enough I saw a girl from my gym there! (surprised because shes a little older and an engineer)
Dark sunglasses seemed to be a popular accessory :)
anyways - I am sure you can imagine the scene. If anyone wants the name, directions, you can PM me. The music certainly was top notch.
on the way back, the taxista of course tried to offer to take me to some 24 hour casas whereupon I asked him the question, how does one feel being the nth number to fuck her just that very same day (with n often exceeding 5?)
his answer was typical of Colombian males Ive posed this question to
"eso es el dilema" (Im sure this doesnt need any translation)
on Friday, when I was walking around looking for the famous club Kukaramakura (turns out its being remodeled) I stumbled into 3 more casas LOL they are everywhere. I sometimes wonder what % of Cali women have worked in a casa or something similar by the time theyve turned 25.
on Sat night, before heading off to the electronica club, while sitting at one of my favorite Sexta bars, I got into a conversation with the bouncers, who proceeded to turn my attention to a dark shuttered window but with a tv easily visible thru the slits. Turns out they were entertaining themselves by watching people fucking backlit by that TV. At first I thought it was merely a private appt but was informed it was merely ANOTHER "reservado".
re money go to BancoColombia, but your best rate will always come via ATM (even with the extra fees most banks now force you to pay)
[QUOTE=Catire]
... yeah, the que mas greeting has thrown me off here in Cali, I have never heard it used this way before ...
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The "que mas" greeting is used all over Colombia.
[QUOTE=Catire]
... speaking of arepas, I find them INFERIOR to what I would buy in Venezuelan areperias. I prefer the arepa being cut and stuffed, which you can get here, but still doesnt seem to taste the same. Often they will put stuff on top of the arepa, which I dont care for at all. Ill cast my vote for the Venezuelan version ...
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I totally agree, I love the areparias in Venezuela!
[QUOTE=Ricker]I totally agree, I love the areparias in Venezuela![/QUOTE]
I wish there were a Ven areperia somewhere so I could get what I like coming back from being out after having a couple of drinks. in CCS, I knew of several that were open 24 hours (god bless them)
hey if you are coming into town on Thu or this weekend, let´s hook up. PM or e'mail me with time and place (Escoces?). This will be last chance as I leave shortly.
Where can I find the girls with the Cinnamon or dark skin. My travel bud loves the white looking girls so it looks like Med is for him. But where should I go to get those brown skinned girls?
Greetings from the other side of the world... For the last 7 months I have been relocated by my company to China. I've always disliked Asian girls but I've come to realize the Asian girls in Asia are far more attractive than the ones in the states so they are growing on me and being fluent in Chinese its damn easy out here for me. But with all my calenas emailing me i cant help to remember that great month of August I spent in Cali!!!
I've obviously have had nothing to post for the last 7 months on the Cali forum but have checked in every now and then just to stir up the old memories and ran across a familiar face....or should I say ass. One of you guys posted a picture of her in the Miss Cali Ass competition and I hear she won, so i can proudly say i have banged a Miss Cali Ass. Heres a picture of Vanessa when i first met her at the Black & White party at Lago Calima last August. I've reposted a picture one of you guys took at the ass competition, she is the yellow bikini. I havent been in touch with her but for anyone looking to meet her she is a regular at the Tienda Vieja bar in Cali where we are mutual friends with the owner Edgar. She half Colombian and half Fillipino, you wont miss her and her girlfriends are always hot. She was not a prepago back then but I'm certain shes feeling good about her newfound fame and looking to cash in on the high end. Talk to Edgar.
Cali is a small place...you'll know everyone within a month and keep running into the same people. Enjoy, I can say we do not have bodies like that on the other side of the world and as they say in Colombia "Sim Tetas No Hay Paraiso"
Vanessa is her real name and what she told me..........Joanna was the name that my friend/pimp/guide Oscar told me was her name at the time. But everyone at Tienda Vieja knows her as Vanessa and that will be the best way to find her.
I still recommend Oscar who will go get any girl you point at in Cali regardless of whether she is with someone or not. Hes not very smart but hes got balls.
[QUOTE=Rob Hay] ... "Sim Tetas No Hay Paraiso" ... [/QUOTE]
SIN Tetas ...
Great fotos! Have fun in China :)
Been thinking about Colombia so much the last two day I'm thinking about going the week of memorial day....except maybe Medellin or Barranquilla instead.
Can anyone post pictures of Camila/Monica whos one of flower Mike's girls? She also works at Escoses and is in Dave Davis's marriage agency. Shes the only prepago I've been with in Cali but I was a repeat customer. The prepago scene is not as organized as in Medellin and is definately a "secret society thing" in Cali but she is the hottest known prepago in Cali. But i do have contacts in the prepago scene if you guys are interested.
I've ran into stranger in the airport who has known and raved about Camilia/Monica so I would expect someone here might have her picture. Anyone in Cali who wants to meet her I'll give you her number or Mike's if you cant locate her, but just take a photo for me. In fact I i would pay someone to fuck her and post her pic here.
before i forget..... [url]http://www.lasprofesionales.com/[/url]
I've met someone of these girls at nightclubs like Ola Ola and Forum and only found out later they were prepaids. About as high end as you will find in Cali.
anyone i personally know here interested in Alexandra from my 8-25 report let me know.. Shes looking to get a nose job(and sponsor) to go with her perfect tits. Shes still the hottest girls I've ever been with....or at least one of. 20 year old college student/ trophy girlfriend
[QUOTE=Bedroom Bully]Where can I find the girls with the Cinnamon or dark skin. My travel bud loves the white looking girls so it looks like Med is for him. But where should I go to get those brown skinned girls?[/QUOTE]Cali or BAQ or even Cartagena if you want that look but it can be found all over the place really.
cheers
[QUOTE=Ricker]I totally agree, I love the areparias in Venezuela![/QUOTE]WTF Ricker? So venezuela have the better looking women and the better areparias. I need to go there. Hopefully the women can match Cali like you keep saying. The only think I love about Cali is the women have light skin tan and long hair.
Yes there are more Super Estrellas in Caracas than in any other Latin America city I've been to but there are more cute non pros in Cali than anywhere in LA and most of them will give you an opportunity to get your 30 second pitch off. If your going to go hang out Loft or Vintage in San Ignacios mall you'd better be decent looking, have money to spend and have game or else this place may not be for you. Though if you are in Caracas do check out the Sunday brunch at the Tamanaco Intercontinental.
I've spent plenty of time in alot of Latin American cities and IMHO, Cali is the best place in the region for nonpros. The safety of the city, beauty and warmth of the girls,economic value, and the sheer overabundance of girls(10+ females: 1 male) makes Cali the greatest city in the world for a single man. And a divorce waiting to happen for a married man. I have fond memories of chicas of Caracas too but its not the same
Ricker your the man and all and your the one whos posts convinced me to go to both Cali and Caracas but I'd have to take Cali over just about any other city in latin america
how is the general look in Caracas compared to Cali i.e. darker/lighter, taller/shorter, more indian make up/more european?
If there are triguenas/canela there. I will pass by after I do BAQ and Cali. I love that tanned skin and long jet black hair look like in Cali.
[QUOTE=Rob Hay]Yes there are more Super Estrellas in Caracas than in any other Latin America city I've been to but there are more cute non pros in Cali than anywhere in LA and most of them will give you an opportunity to get your 30 second pitch off. If your going to go hang out Loft or Vintage in San Ignacios mall you'd better be decent looking, have money to spend and have game or else this place may not be for you. Though if you are in Caracas do check out the Sunday brunch at the Tamanaco Intercontinental.
I've spent plenty of time in alot of Latin American cities and IMHO, Cali is the best place in the region for nonpros. The safety of the city, beauty and warmth of the girls,economic value, and the sheer overabundance of girls(10+ females: 1 male) makes Cali the greatest city in the world for a single man. And a divorce waiting to happen for a married man. I have fond memories of chicas of Caracas too but its not the same
Ricker your the man and all and your the one whos posts convinced me to go to both Cali and Caracas but I'd have to take Cali over just about any other city in latin america[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Rob Hay] The safety of the city[/QUOTE]
Yea Right, lol You give a false sense of security, Obviously you are not up to par with the safety situation down there and its turn for the worse. Just beacuse you hang out at Tienda Vieja, or La sexta or Chipe Chape, these are all policed tourist areas.
The girls I was hooking up with in Caracas had a very Medellin type of look about them but there are all different types in Caracas and you can see the different types at the Sambil. But Caracas is a place you have to be young to be in the scene (20s). Theres no advantage in being a rich older guy there, maybe a disadvantage really. And those two places I mentioned are where the novella stars frequent and they usually wont let you in unless your with eye candy. I was frequentling Caracas a few years ago but now that I have hit the ripe age of 30 this scene may have passed me by. Cali is a place where you are ageless...
The nonpro scene in Caracas takes work and after doing the Cali thing I dont think your gonna want to work that hard again. That place is like South Beach, if your games takes you far there then you'll most likely be fine in Caracas but there very little advantage in being a gringo with money.
My opinion is spend your time in Cali...... you may not like what you find in Caracas.
[QUOTE=Rob Hay]
... Ricker your the man and all and your the one whos posts convinced me to go to both Cali and Caracas but I'd have to take Cali over just about any other city in latin america ... [/QUOTE]
Well the only thing I'm sure about is the arepas. They are definitely better in Venezuela.
As far as chicas, IMHO, I've never seen so many hot hot chicas than in Caracas. From experience though, and like Rob Hay says, they are not as approachable as the Calena.
Colombianas in general are more down to earth than the Venezolana in my experience, and the PFP is cheaper in Colombia generally.
It's not a rule though, cause I've had some sweet sweet Venezuelan novias too, and have found some great PFP, especially in Maracaibo.
If I had to choose a visit, I'd pick Medellin or Cali over a visit to Caracas these days. The country (Colombia) and the cities are much more user friendly.
Fortunately, I have to visit both for work :)
But, I just met the prettiest chica from Barranquilla, her dad is from Bogota and her mom a costena from Barranquilla ... a great combo she is ... and a cool chica too.
I'm off to Barranquilla pronto!
Suerte amigos!
[QUOTE=Ricker]Well the only thing I'm sure about is the arepas. They are definitely better in Venezuela.
As far as chicas, IMHO, I've never seen so many hot hot chicas than in Caracas. From experience though, and like Rob Hay says, they are not as approachable as the Calena.
Colombianas in general are more down to earth than the Venezolana in my experience, and the PFP is cheaper in Colombia generally.
It's not a rule though, cause I've had some sweet sweet Venezuelan novias too, and have found some great PFP, especially in Maracaibo.
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I would concur with Ricker and RHay, but it should be kept in in mind that caraqueñas (and os for that matter) tend to be more stuck up than girls from other cities in the country, especially from the higher end social strata that you will meet, especially the so called super high end types RHay likes)
[QUOTE=Catire]I would concur with Ricker and RHay, but it should be kept in in mind that caraqueñas (and os for that matter) tend to be more stuck up than girls from other cities in the country, especially from the higher end social strata that you will meet, especially the so called super high end types RHay likes)[/QUOTE]I am guess that is where all the hot lighter skinned women are. They normally are high end in Latin America.
also who in their right mind chases higher end chicas? it just seems like a waste of time.
[QUOTE=Master Yoda]
also who in their right mind chases higher end chicas? it just seems like a waste of time.[/QUOTE]
RHay is (in)famous for chasing specifically that kind. Different strokes for different folks. I would agree it´s a waste of time, given you have all these 7´s and 8´s around without the attitude, etc that the so called 9´s and 10´s bring. (but like I said different strokes etc).I would also say that many if not most of these so called 9´s and 10´s have already had various degrees of plastic surgery and I hate plastics.
in a place like Caracas, the so called 9´s 10´s are going to have Venezuelans with money after them (and there are plenty who have it). Those Venezuelans will be smoother and bring more to the table than the so called rich gringo, especially an old one, so a so called gringo cannot effectively compete.
but it´d be a mistake to say the CCS scene ends for someone at 30. Depends on you and how you look. The Venezuelan vanity culture extends to men a little more than in does in Colombia so the competition can be stiff.
[QUOTE=Catire] The Venezuelan vanity culture extends to men a little more than in does in Colombia so the competition can be stiff.[/QUOTE]
If anyone wants to see this vanity in the flesh go work out at the Valle Ariba Athletic Club. This is where every novella star in Caracas works out, definately the most beautiful people under one roof you will ever see. Even the receptionists are hot.
Master Yoda,
I dont want to take too much space on Cali forum talking about Caracas but for me the chase is as much fun as the actual sexual act. The game and the wooing is more exciting sometimes than the act. If you are really interested in Caracas take a look at my postings from about 3, 4 years back on Caracas with some pics in TSM and WSA. They are quite extensive, not sure why i didnt post them here on ISG at the time, i think there was a problem with this database at the time??? Check out Rockman's report as well for reference. Before he married a former miss Colombia contestant, I convinced him to go to Caracas just to take a look/ bacholor party. Rockman is infamous for chasing only the highest class and he left satisfied and ready to get married.. You can use these references to decide if that place is for you.
But back to Cali....
Theres a wealth of experience on this board as far for Cali. And everyone seems to be saying Cali is the way to go, so would trust their judgement on this one. Alot of guys here have vast Caracas experience but yet Cali is on our mind so that should tell you something. Everyone here have a ton of contacts for whatever your looking for so I would use these resources to your advantage. I'm not aware but am sad to hear that safety has taken a turn for the worst in Cali. But i dont believe violence has struck anywhere near Granada where i stayed.
Thanks rob Hay. I agree its a cali board so lets stick to Cali or just latin women in general.
[QUOTE=Catire]RHay is (in)famous for chasing specifically that kind. Different strokes for different folks. I would agree it´s a waste of time, given you have all these 7´s and 8´s around without the attitude, etc that the so called 9´s and 10´s bring.[/QUOTE]
I just don't see why so many gringos think all the hottest of women are in the upper class. Rob Hay is different becuase he enjoys the cat and mouse chase but most gringos wouldn't even spit at a girl unless she was upper society. Surely one can find a knock out 9' or 10 in lower to middle classes too. There just may not be as many in those classes.
One thing I hate is when I about upper class women is their ability to do nothing. I mean when I was in DR I was dating this woman from a humble backround and every night she cooked dinner for me. Never got this from snobby girls.
[quote]in a place like Caracas, the so called 9´s 10´s are going to have Venezuelans with money after them (and there are plenty who have it). Those Venezuelans will be smoother and bring more to the table than the so called rich gringo, especially an old one, so a so called gringo cannot effectively compete.
but it´d be a mistake to say the CCS scene ends for someone at 30. Depends on you and how you look. The Venezuelan vanity culture extends to men a little more than in does in Colombia so the competition can be stiff.[/QUOTE]Well I can only compare this to my experience in Santiago, dominican republic and this is fairly upper class place. Its more about time and money. If you go expat and you have money you will have more opportunities to meet them.
If your a weekend tourist in Santiago, well you can forget it.
Just came back from my Cali/ San andres trip 16 days of paradise. One thing I noticed that has changed since I was there earlier this year for the Feria. The Taxis you board from the Airport go to the guard tower and get a standard tariff issued. They ask where you are going and issue a reciept stating how much you should be charged. This will guarenty you will not get ripped of. I have experienced first hand taxi drivers know you are not from Colombia and try to charge you extra. Once I took a cab from the airport to my girlfriends house they tried charging me 50,000 Col. My girlfriend apporached the taxi driver and asked what he was trying to pull. The taxi driver agreed on 35,000.
This trip to my girls house because of the mandated charge this time came to 31,500. This is great for us tourists. Also its safer since if something happens the gate before exiting the airport takes the license plate number of the taxi.
I think this is a good system the city Palmira came up with.
For those of you that dont know the Airport by Cali is not in the city of Cali the airport is in the city of Palmira.
airport taxis are almost always a scam, it´s good to see an upfront system. thanks.
as to CCS upper end gyms, I went to a few and quickly ran like hell because the pricing was outrageous, and the equipment sucked for what I wanted and needed it for. Lots of posers.
that´s why I joined a hard core gym at a student price LOL.
the true places where the real real upper classes hang out in Caracas bring new meaning to the idea of stuck up. The only interesting thing is that in Venezuela, unlike almost everywhere else in Latin America, being a gringo among intellectuals and upper classes and old money does NOT work against you.
If you've been to Cali more than once I would recommend to not take the taxis but rather a collectivo. Taxis from the airport are very expensive. Basically they have a fixed rate from the airport to the bridge into Cali and then turn on the meter once they pass over the bridge. I think the rate to the bridge is $32,000 COP so you really can't get anywhere for less than $35,000.
In contrast you can take a collectivo from the airport, which are always available, and it is less than $4,000 (don't recall if it is 3200 or 3400). If you know where you are going along the route then they will drop you off, get dropped off and take a taxi, or you could wait un hit the terminal and then take a taxi from there. Typically you'll save yourself about $30,000.
For me it's less about the actual $$ and more about traveling like a local and not feeling like I'm getting ripped off because at $30k plus for a relatively short taxi ride it is way too expensive.
Cheers,
Dwayne
Dwayne, I of course completely agree with but there is one potential problem and it basically depends on how much luggage you are carrying and how expensive something inside that luggage might be.
if you have some big suitcases and are carrying valuables, then in the larger scheme of things, one can bite the bullet and get fucked in the usual airport taxi scam.
but speaking of taxis, one of the most commonly used phrases here is about "...Clinica de Amor (every taxi will know where it is)..."
since many of the sex tourists, aka "serious mongers" stay at the Apthotel Rio, I think it would truly be amusing, (and even more so for the Colombian taxista) to take a taxi from there to one of the casas, including that one, when a person with a good arm can probably hit the place with a rock.
Most of them should walk the block or two to that place and many others. I suspect they need the exercise.
[QUOTE=Dwayne]If you've been to Cali more than once I would recommend to not take the taxis but rather a collectivo. Taxis from the airport are very expensive. [/QUOTE]Yeah those bastards charged us I think 40 or 40k last time from the airport to the hotel. I thought it was cool though because from the hotel to the airport the other guy charged the same thing. And believe me, I do haggle. But Dwayne, what is the latest hour for the collectivo? Would you still recommend taking it past a certain time? For instance if I were to arrive in Cali at 10pm? I usually stay in Bogota for the night then if I am going to a different city I make the trek the next morning.
Ya, Collectivo is an option however my plane ride from the states is about 7 hours. Therfore I want to get where im going to quickly as convienent as possible. I usually have a carry on and 2 checked in lugaages with all my valuables therfore taking a collectivo and transfering to a taxi is not an option.
Dont get me wrong I take collectivos all the time once I have settled in. On numerous ocassions and are pretty safe.I have taken collectivos to fincas outside Cali. I went to San Siprano and Calima on collectivos. They are the way to go, safe money and it add to the trip.
My girl lives in Palmira and we always take the collectivo Palmira Express to the Cali terminal for 2900 Col. Then hop on a taxi to where we want to go if the destination is in Cali. A Taki ride from palmira to cali is 52,000 Col. Collectivo under 6000 for me and my honey. You do the math......
Aparthotel.. is a great location to stay at while in Cali I recommended it to a couple of people I stayed there twice on my mongering expeditions. Walk to Dr. Amor, and Pharos. There is two other spots near also I forgot the names I think they can be found on the lists. Also there is a great litle disco you can pic up non pros at the disco in las torres de cali which is also 2 blocks from Aparthotel del Rio.
Whatever you do Be Safe........
[QUOTE=Artful]I was in Cali one year ago. Didn't care too much for the town and had a very bad experience:
There was a big salsa gig at Rumbodromo. Loads of famous Salsa acts (that I'd never heard of) and it went on for hours. I was with my amiga y su hermana, but after several (let's say 7) hours of salsa I'd had enough and decided to leave solo. It was around 2am by this time so, although not wasted, I was pretty drunk. I left the club and took the first taxi outside. Big mistake.
I told him my hotel, Tore de Cali, and he sped off. After a minute or so he began to ask me questions, which I mostly ignored. After a few more minutes we suddenly stopped. In jumps 3 guys, one at each side of me and one in the front. As if I wasn't frightened enough, the guy to my right had a gun pointed at my neck to kindly remind me of the severity of the situation.
They took everything off me. I had my wallet with me so they politely asked me for my PIN numbers which, considering the gun pointed at my neck, I gave them. So we spent the next couple of hours driving from ATM to ATM, withdrawing as much money as they could. Finally they reached my card limits and, miracle of miracles, they drove to some abandonded area of Cali and let me go.
A pretty unpleasant experience, but let's be clear about one thing: I was a complete fool. I left a club at 2am alone and I stumbled into a taxi without checking its credentials. So, two big mistakes and I paid the price. The point is though, that Cali, in fact Colombia as a whole, as much as love the place, is a place where you can't afford to let your guard slip. It's not ready for mainstream tourism.
My general advice: don't go there if you can't speak Spanish, and if you can ALWAYS ALWAYS keep your guard up.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]
A third mistake was having your wallet with you with cards! Whenever I travel I leave everything (passport wallet and contents) in the safe (if there is one; if not I find a hiding place) where I am staying. I only venture around with a laminated copy of my passport reduced to ID card size, and the money that I plan on spending at that particular moment that I am away from the "home base", both held together with a rubber band.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MJG Dogs]That is 100% correct, or better yet a second "dummy wallet" with what Mr. enternational says. Hey if you get robbed you only loses a few pesos. Also leave the god damm Rolex back in the states also......[/QUOTE]
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This is a wake up call to all mongers,
1. Carry only local currence enough to cover your expenses for the day.
2. Never get drunk if you are alone.
3. Never trust the girl to watch out for you unless it is your GF for a long time.
4. I still do not understand why people carry their wallets in a foreign country.
5. Being tough looking is no excuse.
6. Always lock up your valuables and if there are no safes hide somewhere.
7. People learn from mistakes. I also had the misfortune to leave my cell phone on the desk and the girl stole it. She made some overseas calls which cost me more than four pussies even though I cancelled it next day. This happened in DR. Make sure you have a loading phone so all you can loose is the phone and the load money. As for me I had to make many overseas calls for business , so I kept the same phone service. After that I always lock up phone and use a cheap phone.
8. Even the money you carry, do not keep all in your one pocket. Because there are many pick pockets including girls.
[QUOTE=Sammon]This is a wake up call to all mongers,
1. Carry only local currence enough to cover your expenses for the day.
2. Never get drunk if you are alone.
3. Never trust the girl to watch out for you unless it is your GF for a long time.
4. I still do not understand why people carry their wallets in a foreign country.
5. Being tough looking is no excuse.
6. Always lock up your valuables and if there are no safes hide somewhere.
7. People learn from mistakes. I also had the misfortune to leave my cell phone on the desk and the girl stole it. She made some overseas calls which cost me more than four pussies even though I cancelled it next day. This happened in DR. Make sure you have a loading phone so all you can loose is the phone and the load money. As for me I had to make many overseas calls for business , so I kept the same phone service. After that I always lock up phone and use a cheap phone.
8. Even the money you carry, do not keep all in your one pocket. Because there are many pick pockets including girls.[/QUOTE]
See also :
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=504249&postcount=848[/url]
Last Monday I was in Cali and just felt like ditching the novia for some chica hunting :)
My favorite days for chica hunting are actually on Monday or Tuesday nights. Towards and on the weekends there are so many Colombianios running around, they get in my way ... :)
Anyway, I went to la Piscina and lets see if i can remeber ... there was me and how many other guys ... ZERO.
Some of the chicas there can be of the armargada type ... bitter hooker.
I just avoid them ... no big deal ... easy to spot.
Met some cool chicas, especially a cute little morenita, we talked a bit, had a cerveza and went up or fun.
The cost was, one hour for 50,000 pesitos and the cervezas were I believe 3000 each.
Regressing, I should say that I sat with the morenita down by the pool for about 30-45 minutes before going up for service, to bond with her and get a low down on her attitude. Good thing to do before going for service ... don't want no amargadas.
When I told her I needed a besito (kiss) to see if her lips were soft, she gave me a nice soft, full kiss ... and I knew she would be a winner.
Anyway, service was FANTASTICO !! Actually on the way to the room, I talked with the room-keeper chica, the one that cleans and keeps time, bonded with her too, promised her a propina (tip).
She never banged on the door .. and the morenita and I were in there for about 2 hours. Ricker TIP number 355 ... be nice to the time-keeper :) hahaha.
After we finished up, went back by the pool for another cerveza, when the morenita went to the bathroom, other chicas started moving in, and the morenita, coming back, saw one chica putting her cel number in mine.
She got jealous and came over a sat on my lap and basically begged me only to call her ... told me I was now her novio and a gringo muy chevere y buen amante (good lover) ... but I already knew that :) hahaha.
Lots of these chicas tell me that a lot of gringos are also muy armargado ... bitter in their attitude ... and that it's nice to see a happy one.
For the grumpy guys ... cheer up! Not too sure why a guy would be grumpy with 18 year old chicas oooogling on ya, but they say there are guys asi (like this).
All in all a great night! Love the bars when they're empty of guys, except for me. For once, I get to be Mr. Popular :)
I'll be meeting up with mi nueva amiguita, la morenita this coming week when I'm back in Cali ... this time she's coming to my hotel for some sweet all night loving ... no-price discussed. Ricker TIP number 356 ... discussing price ruins things ... pay her what you thnk she deserves (ps ... not everyone can do this ... advanced mongering stuff .. hahaha).
This applies only to free-lancing chicas, obviously prices are set in the casas.
Take care amigos y claro que si .... Suerte a todos !!
Just got back from CLO on the 921 last sunday. Ricker did you happen to see the police station bombing by any chance? I dont know how the struture held-up and the only person who died was one unfortunate cab driver who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.. The surrounding shops for about one good block are destroyed, looked like pics of IRAQ ive seen, I heard the FARC used 800kilos of TNT, Where the Fuck do you get 800kilos of TNT? The cabbies are telling me suggled in from CUBA of all places. Well i hope thats the last of FARC activity there for a while, but I heard the contrary. Only time will tell.
[QUOTE=Peter Solano]Guys, after giving it much thought I think I have come up with the solution.
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Made of long lasting, water, moisture, and perspiration resistant washable material.
Comfortable to wear. Totally undetectable when wearing jeans or long pants.
It allows you to carry your credit cards, drivers license and money as well your hotel safe or car or home keys.
Great while working out at the gym, no more leaving your wallet in a locker. For jogging, walking or bicycling.
One size fits all. Completely adjustable, fits both Men and Women.
This is an exclusive custom made item.
Please PM or email me for prices and ordering information.[/QUOTE] I never expected the response to be so great. It is a truly a small item that can really give you piece of mind.
The only problem I have encountered was shipping it to the States for a modest cost. Servientrega wants $36 for a 5 day service. So the best bet if you know someone coming down have him buy one for you. Cheers, to all, Peter.
What exactly is the daysaver Peter Solano?
[QUOTE=Latin Bound]What exactly is the daysaver© Peter Solano?[/QUOTE]The DAYSAVER© is a small BIG hidden wallet, small in size, BIG in storage capacity, you can even put your folding cell phone (4"X3") in it. And it can really save your day should you loose your regular wallet,it won`t leave you stranded without money.
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I`ll tell you I have only been selling it for 2 weeks now and I already had to have another batch made, one guy alone from Miami yesterday bought 5 off me.
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Someone asked me if the nice leg in the DAYSAVER© pictures is mine... OH COURSE NOT !!!! But it is not included in the low price of the DAYSAVER©.
Sorry Guys !!!! LOL. Peter.
Im posting this here because Master Yodas box is full.
Hola Amigo,
It´s 3:40pm on Thursday. Im in Cali at ApartaHotel del Rio. Avenida 2 Norte, No. 21N-05. Phone number is 660-2713. I´m in Room 702 Torre A. I´ll be here till Saturday Morning. Currently I´m at a cyber and I´ll go back to the Hotel shortly to bathe etc and then go find my date for the evening. Try calling. If I´m not there, I imagine I will certianly be there in the early evening until I go out. Or you can try in the AM as I always sleep late.
Look forward to meeting you. Maybe you will see this soon and we can go hunt chicas together.
Jeff
Hey winner17,
still here buddie.
I have cleared out my message box. look out for my pm.
Hey y'all,
I'm new to this, but I'm heading to Cali in late June. Anyone else gonna be there, who can show me the spots?
Thanks, and peace,
Spv
Quick Summary of non-casa night spots in Cali I visit over the past week:
1. Flores Frescas (3 visits..0 girls) is now a total joke. 15 mil cover, 70 mil for small bottle of rum and coke, 250-300 mil for 1 hour. The girls were the worst I´ve ever seen at Flores Frescas (looks and attitude).
2. Phareon (sp?) (1 visit...1 girl) was a pleasant surprise after FF. No cover, expensive drinks like FF, but only 60 mil for 1 hour with a 19 year old spinner. Unfortunately, her performance was poor and the rooms are very hot and uncomfortable. For 60 Mil you can´t complain too much though.
3. Escoces (sp?) (1 visit...1 girl) was far far better than I´ve ever seen it before. I would say half the girls were better than the best FF girl. No cover, expensive drinks like the others, and 150 Mil for 1 hour. The girl I took (sorry, I never remember names) gave a great performance in the room and was genuine and sweet before and after our time together. I will be back.
4. Sexta Street Girls (2 visits...1 girl). You can usually find something acceptable for 60 Mil. I always have better luck around Sexta and Calle 24 which is about a half mile north of the discos on Sexta. You have to be more careful of diseases than the other three options.
BTW, I often move around Cali using buses during the day and early evening and one bus I frequent takes me on the North-South street through the Central district (really poor area) of Cali and there are always some really nice looking street girls there.
I would strongly advise ANYBODY seasoned monger or not to stay OUT of el centro and close outskirts from dusk onward! Heck I get scared driving through there just to get to Tienda Vieja. Very Shady People!
Hey guys,
I've been in Cali now for over a month (big deal, huh?? I know!! LOL) and I've been to Medellin a couple of times now. I just got back this afternoon. Definitely no comparison between the two cities; I must say that Medellin takes the big kahuna any day of the week (IMHO). Prettier girls who for the most part are lighter skin and who unlike the girls from Cali, they have the faces and bodies to match 'em.
In any case, Cali has been a real drag in terms of meeting non-pros. I don't know what's up with the attitude and personalities of the women in this town but they definitely suck. Sorry for all you Cali lovers out there. It has been my experience that women here are very hard to become acquainted with and trying to get somewhere with them (i.e. the sack) has proven to be futile. They are very much into making you spend your money, time and energies and not get anywhere with them. It's strikingly similar to what occurs in Sex Prison.
So why come to Cali one may ask? That's what I've been asking myself ever since I've gotten here. It's actually making me want to go back to Sex Prison - kind-of depressing, ain't it?? actually, I think Medellin would do. I definitely recommend Medellin over Cali to anyone who is contemplating visiting either city or who can't make-up their mind which one to visit.
Later and out!!!
So it's Thursday May 31 around 1pm. My plane from Medellin to Cali has just landed and I am off to the minibus to catch a lift to the terminal. Oh.. but before I get on the bus I've got to starting working on a chica. Before I left for Medellin, I called Marcela.. foto posted here by Vatoslocos in March or April and he had PM'd me her number. I had tried calling her from the US in March or April, but the connection was horrendous so I figured I'd make it a point my next trip to Cali to hook up with her. So, I called her from Medellin airport and was told that this is not Marcela's phone. Ok, well who is this? "Luz," she replied. I asked her if she knew Marcela and she said that she did and asked how I knew her. This is where it gets tricky I thought. I explained to her that an acquaintence of mine had met her and her friend back in March and had sent me their foto as well as the name and phone number of Marcela. Ah.. she said, ok well this isn't Marcela's phone, would you like for me to give her a message. Uhmmm... sure, tell her I called her from the US in March or early April, but the connection was very bad and that I am now in Medellin and will be in Cali in about an hour and I will call you back when I arrive for her number. Listo. Chao. So I off I go to catch the bus. I pay my 3500 pesos for the 45 minute ride to the terminal, arrive at the terminal and grab a cab for 3200 pesos to Aparthotel del Rio... same hotel as last time. I arrive, check in, quickly change clothes and try calling Marcela again. No answer. I decide to get a few necesities from the Olympica a few blocks away. Make it back to the Apartahotel around 2pm and try calling again to Marcela. This time I get Luz on the phone again. I ask if she has spoken to Marcela and she said, yes. I say great, do you have her number so I can call her and she explains to me that she knows which fotos I am referring to and which friend sent them to me as she is the other girl in the photo. Oh, great I thought. She continues on telling me that Marcela is pregnant, by her Colombian boyfriend, and has moved in with him. Damn... I thought. Oh well, so which one are you in this foto that my acquaintance has sent me. Sure enough she explained herself to a T. Luz is the one with the bigger tits in Vatolocos 3-some fotos. So I tell Luz, that's I guess too bad about Marcela, but I guess it is good news, no? She agrees and says that she loves him a lot so it's good. We talk a few minutes and I tell her that honestly, I did not know which of you were Marcela in the foto and I would very much like to see you, Luz if you aren't too busy. She tells me, no, that she doesn't do that anymore. All I asked was to see her, so I guess she knew exactly what I wanted. She said she had a freind there with her that woould be more than happy to come to my hotel if I would like. I said, sure why not. Send her over, and if I'm not attracted to her I will pay her cab and send her home. Fair enough, we agreed. About 45 minutes later, arrives the friend of Luz. This gal is about 5'10 (1/2 inch taller than me), blond hair, and pretty big tits... 34 or 36 B or C. You see, I prefer 30B or 32A... so anything over that pretty much turms me off, unless they are like 34B and perfect. So she comes in, we chat, have a few beers, smoke few cigs. The gal is a really nice gal and we have a great rapport going. Unfortunately, I am thinking to myself... you know I'm really not physically attracted to this gal. I'm sure I could take her out for the evening and we'd have an awesome time, but what is the point if I have no interest in fucking her? So after a few beers and some great conversation, I explained to her that I am going to call a friend that I know from previous visits to go out with me for the evening and it would be best if I just give her some cash for a cab and she leave. Tears starting rolling down her face. Boy did I feel like a chump. Don't get me wrong, most guys would think this chica is hot, and she was pretty cool to hang out with.. it's just I'm picky.. I can't get it up for a blond, or someone that isn't at least a few inches shorter than me, or for someone that has tits bigger than 32B... so time is too valuable to waste with someone that is not going to interest me sexually. On hindsight, I probably should have asked for a bbbj right then and there and then sent her away. She would have done it happily as we had a great rapport going. Oh well.
So off she went and off I went to find a cyber to try to hook up with Master Yoda. Time passes and it's now 5:30pm. I've showered and decided to go hunt for a chica. Where was I to go. Just as I finished dressing and putting my shoes on I hear thunder and lightning. "Ah... shit," most might think. But not me. I say, "Bingo!!" You see, rain is a great thing. Rain brings a whole new approach to meeting chicas. So down the elevator I go with my umbrella in hand... not one of those cheap umbrellas. This is a nice-sized conservative black umbrella that I bring from the US. Straight to the bellhop I go. "Senor, hay unas Universidades por aqui?" This man has just made my day. Yes there are 2 and they are both within 3 blocks of my hotel (Apratahotel del Rio). So off I go in the rain, with my umbrella in my left hand and a backpack on my back. Why the backpack? Because I have to act as though I am actually doing something or going from somewhere... course the only thing in the backpack is a pad of paper and a pen.
Rain is a mongerer's best friend. What easier way to talk to any chica you want then go look for them in the rain? And I'm not talking normal chicas. Rain is a bonus. In the rain, you can meet any chica you so fantsy... even perfect 10's. So what's my approach? First I go search for the university, then I find a nice place about a block or 2 away, where I can get a good view of people walking down the sidewalk in all 4 directions (note, this can be done anywhere, it doesn't have to be done in front of Universities. Of course if you are looking for a date with a chica of University age, then ding dong... University would be a good starting point). So I find my spot in front of a bakery ablock away from the closest University, enter the bakery, buy a few pastries and head back out into the rain under my umbrella... at times chomping on my pastry and at times with my cell phone up to my ear acting as though I'm on the phone.
Now I'm a pretty picky cat so i'm not going to rush out and try to meet just anyone. I'm looking for that stunner. That absolute 10 that justifies reason to jump in the sack with someone after I've spent a whole week with my regular gf who has pleased me already every which way and more times in a week that a man deserves to be pleased. So what you do is mark your prey once you see someone that you like/might like. Of course in the rain it's kind of difficult sometimes to get a good look at them as some have on sweats with a hood to block the rain, newpapers over their heads, or anything else they can find to block the pouring rain...and of course some are just walking as fast as possible while they get drenched. So I spend a good 45 minutes to an hour trying to find the one. In an hours time I get 3 numbers from a few smoking hotties. 3 for 3, no rejections. I'm either good, or this rain thing really does work like a charm. Actually though, 1 turned out to be not so hot... blame that on the rain. jajajaja
Unfortunately, I can't land a date for the evening. I'm in Cali, this ain't Medellin. What the heck is the problem? The problem is it's Thursday late afternoon/early evening and I'm trying to land a date for oh... about 2-3 hours from now and it's raining cats and dogs outside so everyone is just trying to get home as fast as possible. Eveyone wants me to call them on Friday to go out Friday night. And of course, I tell them all I will call them all. Can't have 3 dates though? I've taken good notes on all of them though, to help me decide the next morning when I wake up, who is going to be the lucky chica.
Ok so it's now about 6:45pm and I decide to go grab more beer from Olympica to stock up for the night. As I walk out, I see a nice, and I mean nice, body cross right across the street going my way. I instantly throw up the umbrella and dodge traffic to cross the street and catch up with her. The conversation on the walk in the drenching rain goes well. I mean real well, and this gal is smoking. I even ask this gal to take off the hood so I can see her hair. She lowers the hood and wow... not only is her hair beautiful... jet black like I love, her face was amazing. I obviously didn't get a good glance of her before because of the rain, the hood, and her back toward me. At this point, I've decided to detract from my looking for a date in 2-3 hours idea as all I got were numbers for the next day. This gal I ask, "so, where are you headed?" She tells me, "home." "And which way might that be?" I ask. "Are you a extranjero," she asks. Uhmm.. yeah you noticed. "What hotel are you staying at?" "Apartahotel del Rio, por alla y a la derecha," I reply. We are to the point where I am supposed to take a right so I say, "so where is home?"
"Por alla," and she points to the left and starts walking that way. Wait!!!! Once again, I ask the have dinner with me and take me dancing. Once again the repsonse... how about tomorrow night. Shittt!! Fortunately I think fast and say, what are you doing tomorrow in the daytime. Do you live close? Let's see each other tomorrow afternoon, and the date is set for Friday when I wake up I will call her and she should plan to meet me at my hotel around 1pm. I get this gals name and number. She tells me it's Laura Pausini. Laura Pausini? Come on, that's not your name. She insists that it is and I leave it at that. I actually kiss her on the cheek and tell her I'll see her tomorrow.
So, me being a homer... I now have a 1pm date for Friday, 3 for Friday night and nothing for tonight and I am getting hungry. I head back to the hotel and at this point, the same bellhop is still there, but the night guy has also shown up in his street clothes. I remember this guy from last time I was there in March. I tell him my dilemma... that I went looking for a regular gal to go out for the evening. Not necessarily for any hoochie coochie, just a nice looking gal to take to dinner and accompany dancing for the evening and if we hit it off and come back and hit the sack, great. If not, not a problem. So instantly they both start telling me oh, Ive got a gal... in fact one of them pulls out his cell phone and just starts flipping through pics. I say, whoa, whoa, whoa. These are putas, right? How much is this going to cost me? His reply.. for all night.. probably 150k pesos. My response... I'm not looking for a puta I just want company to enjoy the evening and I'd rather take someone out than go at it alone. At this juncture, the other guy jumps in and says I have some friends. I ask him, "Is it going to cost me anything?" Well, yeah probably about 100k pesos, he says. I tell him, ok, call her up, explain to her what I am looking for... a date to go to dinner, to a nice restaurant, and then dancing. If we hit it off and come back and hit the sack, great... we can discuss pricing. If not, then we say our goodbyes and she just had a nice night of dinner and dancing with a gentleman. Ok? I'm going to go up to my room and change shirts as I am soaking wet and then I'll come back down and we'll talk.
I return downstairs and ask him, "What did she say?" His response, "She said she'd be her in 45 minutes." 45 minutes!!! Sweet Jesus that doenst give me much time now does it. How the heck is she going to shower, dress, get a cab and get here in 45 minutes? I question again... now you told her this is a normal date not a puta session, thus no money will be exchanging hands unless we decide to get down and dirty at the end of the night, right? His response, "Yeah, she knows, she's not a puta, she's a normal gal... actually a friend of my family. Ok, then. This should be interesting. My first blind date in who knows how many years. So I start questioning him.. is she good looking, skinny, big tits or small tits, tall or short, black hair or blond hair. Not that it matters as she'll be here in now about 30 minutes??? So, I trust him... yikes that's not something one should do often. He tells me if you don't like her, just send her home when she gets here. Ok, will do.
After I've showered, dressed and the whole bit as fast as possible.. the phone rings. Receptionist tells me I have a guest and I tell her to send her up. Knock on the door... and I open the door and walaaaaa... pure beauty. A little tall for me... 5'7 and I'm 5'9 so all is well, just taller than I am used to. However, long black hair, nice medium sized to smaller tits... about 34a, about 54-55kgs... but she's also tall so she had a nice petite figure, and ah... a beautiful smile. I could tell instantly, this is no puta. This is a regular chica... and the date began.
She comes in, we talk for a bit and then off we go. It's around 8:30pm-9pm at this point. We have dinner, go dancing, and have a few drinks. Amazingly this gal really doesn't know how to dance. I mean... no clue how to dance Regetton, doesn't even attempt to dance Electronica, and frankly I'm a better Meregue and Salsa dancer. We do dance a lot as I love to dance, but obviously there is plenty of time for talk. It ends up she doesn't really get out that often. She's a really nice gal that lives with her family and studies at the University. This is actually just what I was looking for, a normal gal to have normal conversations... ah and by the way, she was a decent kisser nothing spectacular. This has all the signs of a normal chica... 100%. It's actually kind of odd, as many of my past dates in Cali as well aren't very good dancers. Putas for the most part can always dance. Normal non-working Barranquilleras can dance my ass off the floor. Normal non-working Calenas, well they just aren't very good at dancing for some reason. Maybe it's just my luck... or bad luck. Another interesting point about this chica... she's 19 years old, had a 45 year old boyfriend for 2 years (he had dumped her about 6 months earlier). The interesting thing is he moved to Cucuta to meet a European women. She went with him for a few months. It ends up this guy marries a European women for papers to get to Europe and now has a good relationship with his wife. I just thought it was odd. So much talk about Colombianas just looking for a Visa... ends up this Colombiano was looking for one too, and he got it apparently whole breaking the heart of my date that I was currently with.
So it's around midnight, and of course like any horny male, I've undressed this chick in my mind a zillion times over the last 2 hours. Now I am just wondering, how late does this gal want to stay out? If it were up to me, I'd be content on dancing til 5am or content on going back and screwing and going to sleep. I just wonder what she is thinking as I know she has class in the morning and she lives at home so... it is kind of getting late... that is if I plan on taking her back to see my Johnson. Just as I am thinking all of this in my head, she whispers in my ear... "Let's leave." "Yeah it is getting kind of late, let's go back to the hotel and have a drink and call it a night," I remark.
Off we go, cab it back, up the elevator and into the room. Instantly after we both step foot into the hotel room, I grab her and start deep kissing her while firmly caressing one of her tits with my right hand, while my left is squeezing that ass like it's the next best thing to a bowl of arequipe helado. She is very receptive as she grabs my cock through my jeans and has it in a stronghold, without letting go until we stumble all the way to the bed. We quickly undress each other like 2 lovers who haven't seen each other in years. I don't know what it was but as she was taking off my underpants she was stroking my cock with an amazing touch. Something about those soft hands just gave me goosebumps throughout my spine. I've never really felt like that before. Sure gals stroke my cock all the time, but something about this chicas hands were different. We play with each other for about 90 seconds while I have to stop her hands numerous times or else I am going to explode. I grab a condom and lubricant, put them on, mount myself on top of her and explode in very short order. Well shit, that couldn't have been much fun for her. I tell her, let's wait about 20-30 minutes and then try again. I open a few beers, get back in bed and we talk for about 20-30 minutes. Johnson never comes back up and before I know it she has started getting dressed and ready to go. She makes her way to the bathroom, and I slip a few 20k peso bills in her purse. She comes out and we exchange email addresses and phone numbers. We kiss goodbye and agree that it was a fantastic date, I walk her down, flag her a cab, hand her 10k pesos for the cab ride (5k each way), open the door, she enters, I kiss her goodbye again, close the door and she is now on her way home. The discussion of money never comes up, she has no idea that I have put any money in her purse, and I have just had a fantastic date and a cheap session of sex with a very beautiful gal. :-)
albeit... I should have taken a small blue pill to make the fun last longer.
I really enjoyed reading your post Winner, as it was very refreshing from the normal shit we read. It was also nice to see you had such a great time!. I hope the rest of your stay is as exciting. I do have a strong suspicion that you will be seeing this girl again very shortly. :) You just have to love the hunt!
Congratulations and thanks for sharing!.
Ms. Pausini is an Italian singer, who sings in Spanish, and has some popular songs in the pop/Espanol genre. I suspect the girl knows/knew who Laura Pausini is.
the girl who showed up in 45 mins was obviously a "prepago" girl.
aka.. not a professional hooker, but a girl who will hook when it suits her. (aka needs the money). They usually start at 100K.
You are correct about Laura Pausini ( I guess I should have added that for those that don't know her music). There's a reason I have included her name that she gave me in the report. You'll understand in future reports.
You are incorrect about the gal that showed up being a prepago. Ok, technically the term... yes. But this was not your normal prepago. She was a down to earth normal chica.
The attached photo on the other hand is a normal prepago. Albeit a Barranquillera not a Calena.
[QUOTE=Catire]Ms. Pausini is an Italian singer, who sings in Spanish, and has some popular songs in the pop/Espanol genre. I suspect the girl knows/knew who Laura Pausini is.
the girl who showed up in 45 mins was obviously a "prepago" girl.
aka.. not a professional hooker, but a girl who will hook when it suits her. (aka needs the money). They usually start at 100K.[/QUOTE]
So it's Friday Morning/Late Thursday Evening May 31/June 1.. around 2:30 in the morning. Feeling pretty good about my date that I just had, I really kind of wanted to just unwind and have a few more beers. So I decide to hook it on down to Pharoh's... about 400-500 meters from my Apartahotel. I arrive and the doors are shut and there are 3 groups of males(2-5 per group) sitting around talking. Most of them are Colombian but there are 2 extranjeros in the combined 10 guys out there. Plus there are 4-5 taxi cabs waiting to take home chicas. I ask everyone what's going on and why everyone is outside. The response... place closed at 2am and everyone is waiting on chicas to come out. You're shitting me? 2am. Isn't this Colombia? Local law is joints close early. So I figured I'd sit around as well and see what sort of eye-candy comes outside 1) to see what I missed as I really just wanted to see some hot chicas dancing in skimpy dressed outfits and 2) who knows, maybe I'll be up for round 2. So we wait and wait and wait. While we are waiting, there is a female out there (friends with some of the Colombians) who works inside Pharohs. Not as a puta, I guess more of a door lady... I didn't ask. After talking for a while she told me that there is a place about 2-3 blocks away that is opened till 6am. 6am? But I thought the law was 2am? She said, yeah but they pay the policia. AH... ok and how are the chicas? She said that many of the gals from Pharohs typically head over there depending on how their night went. So, I decide that I'll go check it out. She tells me that while it's only 2-3 blocks, I'd be best off cabbing it as it's not safe to walk there (by cab it's actally more like 6-8 blocks as you have to go a different way). So, I've decided, sure why not, I have nothing better to do and who knows what I might find. So I decide to wait a little longer to see what comes out of Pharohs and then cab it over.
So I'm sitting there waiting and low and behold... 1st chica out is Ms. Laura Pausini. The gal I provided my umbrella services to earlier in the evening. The gal I have a date with in about 10 hours at 1pm on Friday. No shit! That's where she was going, and she had tol me she was going home. So she walks out the front door and doesn't see me as I am kind of caticorner and far away. I watch her for a few minutes as she goes and talks to a group to the right. She sits down there for a few minutes and then goes and grabs this homeless guy who is out there all night long every night. This cat actually speaks a little bit of English. He's very strange as he claims he lived in the US for a while, he's disabled, homeless, and is very very wierd.. not my kind of character. So Laura goes and grabs him and they cross the street and light up a big fattie right there on the sidewalk. She's over there a good 5 minutes, smoking away with her homeless buddy. They finish and stumble back across the street, at which time I put myself right in front of her and say "Hola." She looks at me and jsut about shits. She asks me what I am doing here? I ask her, what is she doing here. This gal is 100% high and remarks... "This is my second home." "Ah, ok." I say. "You are looking mighty hot tonight, looks like you dried up just fine once you got out of the rain," I tell her. She just blushes, embarresed that I have seen her here. At this point I am looking right into her eyes (which are more red then the sunburn I got in Tayrona... and my back and forehead look like a freaking tomato) when I wonder whether I should invite her back to my apartahotel or not. First thing out of my mouth is, "So we're still on for lunch today, right?" She kind of loses her balance for a moment and falls over and says "Yeah, 1 o'clock papi." "Ok Barbie Doll, dont let me down," I reply. To this point, numerous chicas have come out and are either putting themselves in taxi-cabs or mingling around with the men that have been waiting outside for the last hour. I decided, it's getting late.. if I'm going to go check out the other place I better get going. So I hook it back to my apartahotel real quick, grab a beer out of the fridge and a down a little blue pill as my desire to get laid again today has shot up after seeing hot little Laura Pausini.
So beer in hand I walk back down to Pharoh's, hop in one of the cabs waiting there and have him take me to the bar that is 3 blocks away. This bar is called Albaricoque. I haven't seen it on any of the lists here on ISG. Actually when I left there I grabbed a business card. On one side it says Cuban's Night, Albaricoque Bar Sex and on the other side it says Cuban's Dia. Same address. I'll post the address at the bottom of this report. The cab drivers and the gal outside all referred to it as "Albaricoque."
So we go to where the cab driver thinks it is. It's pitch black outside. he says, it should be there... but it looks absolutely pitch black and dead to where he is pointing. Suddenly, out of nowhere this guy shows up and opens my door and welcomes me. I ask the cabbie, is this it? He responds, this is it. I give the cabbie 4k pesos and follow my host.
We walk in and I start asking questions so he sees, yes I am a gringo, but yes I also speak perfectly fluent Spanish. He proceeds to take me to a couch. There are probably a good 20 chicas inside sitting around various couches with around 25-40 males. Pretty happening place I think to myself for 3:30 in the morning. There are also, a few guys and gals dancing with each other here and there. Everywhere I look, everyone is sniffling like they have the flu... so my sense is I am in coke central. Another male comes up to me and asks me if I want a drink. I say sure, what beer do you have. I end up with a Club Colombia... 5k pesos. I explain to the guy that walked me to the couch, that I would like to just kind of sit and relax and also get to know most of the chicas. He asked me what I wanted. I told him the usual... black hair, triguena, petite, preferably below 45kg... definitely below 55kg, preferably small to no tits... definitely nothing any larger than 34B... not sure he understood that. So he goes and brings soone over who introduces herself and sits. I ask her a few questions and this chica is ready to go get it on. I explain to her that I am looking to meet an awful lot of gals, preferably everyone in the joint, and after I have done so I will pick out the lucky lady. So we talk a bit more and I tell her I'll remember her. My "host" comes back over and says, "how was she?" I explained to him.. not really my type, but that I would really like to meet everyone available one by one and talk to each one of them for a good 2 -3 minutes, then I will decide. So 3 beers later after I have met about 12-15 chicas. I have decided on... the 2nd chica I met. I think her name was Mary Luz, but I just don't remember as I have so many sheets of paper with gals names, numbers, and emails that I mixed up who is who on some of them. I'm pretty sure it is Mary Luz. This gal caught my eye the second I saw her and like I said, she was the 2nd one that was introduced to me. We spoke a good 8-10 minutes when she was introudced to me before I shunned her away and told her... I won't forget you. Mind you after every gal introduced to me, my "host" continually asked me... so, are you ready. I continually told him, "No, but so far it's chica #2 that I am planning on going with." I'm pretty sure he kept telling her that after each chica as well as he kept going over to her after we talked and I could tell she looked as anxious as a 5 year old on Christmas waiting to open up his gifts. So chica after chica I talk to, but the whole time I pretty much have made my mind up that I am taking that sweet looking Mary Luz. She had on this nice white thong with a white see through top. She had an ass to die for and while I was taking to every chica one by one I was just visualizing myself sticking my hard cock into Mary Luz doggie style while she screams, "Mas duro, papi. Mas duro."
So finally we are done, over-all the chicas aren't too bad, but not too many that are really spectacular either. I'd kind of compare it to la Mayorista in Medellin. You just have to find the right one. So back comes Mary Luz, she sits as I finish up my beer and asks for a drink. I ask, "what would you like?" She responds, "I only drink Colada." "Pina Colada, I respond, and how much would that cost me?" "15k pesos, she says." "15 mil pesos!!!! No mi amor, no hay Pina Coladas hoy, todo la leche que necesitas esta sentado aqui." She laughs and we start talking pricing. Mind you, my "host" has come back by about 15 times throughout the night asking for his "propina." And every time I tell him, "At the end of the night." And he always just sniffs like he still has a little white powder on his nostril and then walks away. While at the same time I am thinking to myself, "Why the hell am I going to tip someone? Is this normal?" Regardless, Pedro or whatever his name is certianly is counting on his tip at the end of the night. So I start talking business with my chica. She tells me.. 40k for 30 minutes, 50k for 45 minutes and 80k for an hour. Hmmm... seems kind of steep. It is 4:30 or 5am and I rarely frequent these joints so I'm really not sure if she is full of shit or not. I also think to myself... why would it be 50k for 45 mintues and 80k for an hour? That really doesn't make a lot of sense. So I call over my "host" and tell him I am ready to go. But I say, wait... "how much did you tell me it is going to cost for a chica?" He looks at Mary Luz and at this point I see Mary Luz doing all these hand signals. He says, "Did Mary Luz tell you the prices?" "Yeah, but I want you to tell them to me," I said. At this point I am positioned where I see both their faces and they both have this look on their face looking at each other like, "what the fuck do I say?" Again but very firmly I say, "Pedro, what are the prices?" Instantly he respondes... 30k pesos for 30 mintues or 40k pesos for 45 minutes." AH... as I stop him right there. "Bueno, vamos Mary Luz. 40 mil pesos para 45 minutos." I hand her the cash and up the stairs we go.
We get upstairs and she has her own room. She sleeps in this room as well byherself. She has 2 beds though in her room. Her "fuck bed" and the bed she sleeps in. We talk a bit and I ask her how long has she lived here. She's been there almost 2 months and she said it's her second home. That's the second time I've heard that tonight (the first time being Laura Pausini). It's rare as I just have never heard a chica say that before... kinda like they are proud that they have 2 homes. So we start getting down to business. Mind you, I gulped a little blue pill about 90 minutes earlier. I love Mary Luz's outifit so I tell her to turn on some music and dance for me on the bed. She has the guys below turn on the speaker and she dances almost 2 full songs for me and then strips and starts sucking Johnson. I don't have to ask for bbbj, she just gets right into it from the strip show. After a few minutes of sucking she reaches for a condom. I pull mine out from my wallet and she says,"no." She says that hers are better. I say maybe, but mine are pretty good.... Trojan Extra Thin Extra Lubricated. I explain this to her and she tells me that her condoms are thin also and will make me enjoy it more. Unbelieving of this I think wha the hell. Why not?
So she puts it on me and we go through all the positions. At this point I start realizing that this chica isn't as hot as she looked downstairs in the dark. Not bad... probably 165cm, 52kgs, thin thighs, a nice ass... I mean real nice, smaller than normal titties(which is good).. but they aren't real flattering to look at, and a little bit over average face for your normal Colombiana. Nothing really to write home about. So we go at it a while and then talk a bit. Exchange email addresses. She asks what I am doing in the daytime. I ask her, "Why? What are you doing? Would you like to come to my apartahotel?" She says, "Sure, but it will cost me 80k pesos." I tell her I actually already have plans and that I leave on Saturday so no chance for us to get together again. However, let's stay in touch via email. She agrees and I get dressed and head toward the front door. Just as I am opening it, low and behold Pedro (that is not really his name... I just dont remember it) comes running up. Mi propina, mi propina!! I open the door- almost getting blinded by the sunlight. I pull out a 2k peso bill, hand it to him, tell him firmly that it's all I have and he proceeds to walk me to the end of the street to fetch a cab asking if I enjoyed myself and what-not. I tell him it was great and he hands me a business card and tells me to tell all my friends. I get in the cab, tell him where I am going... look at my watch and realize it's 7:30am. I was in that room for almost 2 hours. I guess they don't monitor the 45 minutes too closely.
To be continued
Albaricoque.. also known as Cuban's Dia and Cuban's Night.
Av. 2E Norte #24n 76
681-3427 fijo
(313) 6866877 cell
On both sides of the card, by the phone number it says "Luz Verde" I have no clue why? I don't recall seeing a green light. But I do remember that there are no markings on the outside or any noise, lights, signs.. nada to let you know you've found the place. A guy just walked up out of nowhere once we got there in the cab.
Hours on the business card for Cuban's Dia says 9am-5pm
No hours listed for Cuban's Night/Albaricoque Bar Sex.. though I was told it closes at 6am.. and I walked out at 7:30am... so??? The place did still have people in it when I left. Most of them enjoying their white powder.
So I wake up on Friday, June 1 around 12:30pm. Sheesh... I told Laura Pausini I would call her and we have a 1pm date. Nothing to fear, Colombianas are rarely punctual, so I'm free to be a little slow from time to time as well. Slow is probably not the word. Hangover from hell would be more like it. So I get out of bed, look for her number and dial her up. Voicemail. I wait a good 10 minutes and try her again. This time she answers, and by the sound of it she sounds like she feels about as good as me. I explain to her that I feel like doo-doo but that I really want to see her. I tell her, I know it was probably embarressing for her that I saw her outside her "2nd home" last night, smoking a fattie. She didn't make any remarks to that comment. I ask her if she would like to come over, but explain that we'll probably just hang around the hotel room and go get a bite to eat. She obliges and says she'll be over around 2:30pm. 2:30pm? That's like an hour and a half, so I say fine... and then figure I'll get another hour of shuteye. Next thing I know, the phone rings. It's the reception. I look at my clock and it's 3:15pm. I snoozed a little too long. There's a knock on the door, I open and just as I had dreamed... a lovely petite princess is now in my room. This gal is probably the most attractive gal I have met on this trip in Cali. 46-48 kgs of sheer beauty. She comes in and I tell her to feel free to sit on the bed. She lies down on the bed and I decide, heck why not get back into bed. Next to my bed is MP3 player that I alsways take with me. It has my favorite Regetton and Electronica music that I love turning on and having my Colombian beauties dance for me on the bed in their skivvies and then proceed to give me a strip tease. I love doing this. What is also has is my favorite Laura Pausini and Enya tunes. So this is perfect, I have an mp3 player hooked up to my mini speakers which is full of Regetton, Electronica, Laura Pausini, and Enya. So what do I do? You guessed, I flip to the artist known as Laura Pausini... song after song. The old ones, as those are my favorite sleep tunes. I get under the covers and before I know it she's under the covers with me as well. I give her a nice kiss on the lips and then back off. Love this game. We stare at each other eye to eye for a good 2-3 minutes kind of in a lazy fashion, while we listen to the beuatiful Italian singing "No digas no." Pretty much both of us are saying to one another with our eyes, "I'm tired as shit." I put her in my arms and close my eyes.
Next thing I know, I'm looking at my clock and it's 6pm. This Calena beauty fast asleep right next to me, fully clothed. I decide it's about time to wake up so I put my hand on her tummy under her shirt. She kind of squirmishes as my hands are truthfully pretty cold( I keep the room like an ice chest). I start rubbing her tummy and then go for the gold. I unbutton the top (only) button on her jeans, zip them down a bit and start rubbing my fingers on her pussy between her jeans and panties. I then go inside the panties and she continues to act like she is sleeping not making a sound. I contiune to play with her for the next few minutes until now I start feeling her get really wet. I insert 1 finger as it's difficult to insert any more than that as her jeans are on and she is very tight. She starts moaning a bit as I stick my finger deeper and deeper inside of her. So I have this 9+ in bed with me, I've probably said a whole 20 words to her since she arrived and now it looks as though the fun stuff is going to start. I continue fingering her with one finger and then begin to kiss her. She responds and before I know it we are kissing rather deeply. I'm actually a little embarresed as I have not brushed my teeth nor showered from the night before. I ask her if it's ok to shower, she takes one look at the shower (which is a shower inside of a huge bathtub) and we're both out of bed within a few seconds. We take off all our clothes and I am in heaven. This gal has the most perfect titties I have ever seen, a delicious looking box, and a face that is just so innocent looking. We get in the shower where we continue kissing. I then lather her up with soap and turn her around so I can caress those beautiful gentle breasts from behind. At this point, my dick is harder than a log and he's ready to play. While I typically don't enter sin condom, it was extremely tempting. I felt myself bending my knees with my dick in hand trying to put it in her from behind. It was difficult as she is pretty short and and has a tight pussy. So I have my dick in one hand and my other hand sticking a finger in her pussy while I am kissing her neck with water pounding onto my face (actually the water pressure isn't that strong). After a few minutes of more moaning while I finger her, she turns around and pushes me to the back of the shower (tub) where there is a small bench and I kind of sit/lie down with my back against the glass. She gets on her knees and starts sucking my dick. I don't know what it is, but Colombianas love to suck dick. What a country. It's like they are born with the knowledge of how to suck dick, and suck it good. For the next 5 minutes I am in heaven. As I begin to feel myself coming I continutally push her away as I do not want to come as I want to fuck the shit out of this chick. Unfortunately, Johnson has different ideas and before I know it she is sucking me dry. After she finishes, we kiss a bit in the shower and then exit.
We dry off, I brush my teeth and go instantly to the fridge and grab a bottle of water and down a blue pill. No way is Laura Pausini going to get out of my hotel without me testing the goods. She gets into bed naked, so I carry her over a bottle of Manzana (Apple drink) and enter the bed naked as well. We both sip on our bebida a few times and then start playing with one another. Actually I'm playing with her, trying to kind of keep her hands away from me for a bit as Johnson is in the shriveled up position. This doesn't last long as I have the hots for this chica. She is a beauty. You can all imagine what happens next, and the next 20 minutes could possibly have been the best 20 minutes of sex I have ever had. It was amazing how tight this gal was. When I saw her walking down the street yesterday in the rain, this was my dream. But after finding out she was a working gal at Pharohs, I did not imagine she would be so tight (note... I love tight chicas). So we finish up, I grab the towel and we do a half ass job of cleaning ourselves and I continue to kiss her until finally I just rest my head on her just with my mouth on her right tit. These tits are just perfect. She is stroking my hair, and the next thing I know it is 8pm and Laura Pausini is no longer in my bed. The bathroom door is open and I don't see her, so I go check on the balcony. Nada... I put on some shorts and a t-shirt and head downstairs and ask the front desk if they have seen her. They told me she left about an hour ago. Thus this beautiful angel in my arms has left without saying good-bye. Bummer.
I go back up to my room and start debating what I am going to do for the evening. The first thought in my head is to call Laura... but then I realize, she probably left because it's Friday night and my assumption is she has to work. I look around to see if anything is missing as I didn't think of that before I went downstairs. Looks as though everything is right where it is supposed to be. Check my wallet.. all my money that was in there is still there. Check my secret hiding spots where I stash cash in various spots... all clear. Nothing missing. So it turns out, the rainy day search yesterday turned into possibly the best session I have ever had in my life with an absolute angel, in bed listening to one of my favorite musicians, and it was absolutely free. No lunch, no dinner, no drinks, no cash, nada. Just a bottle of apple juice and some fantastic company. So what's next? It's my last night in Colombia after a fantastic 10 day trip. Should I call Laura and take her out for the night?
To be continued.
that place is literally two blocks up the street LOL
cabbing there is too funny.
I think either that place or another right next to it on that block is for sale.. I saw it in the El Pais classifieds.
[QUOTE=Cyberdas]Hey guys,
I've been in Cali now for over a month (big deal, huh?? I know!! LOL) and I've been to Medellin a couple of times now. I just got back this afternoon. Definitely no comparison between the two cities; I must say that Medellin takes the big kahuna any day of the week (IMHO). Prettier girls who for the most part are lighter skin and who unlike the girls from Cali, they have the faces and bodies to match 'em.
In any case, Cali has been a real drag in terms of meeting non-pros. I don't know what's up with the attitude and personalities of the women in this town but they definitely suck. Sorry for all you Cali lovers out there. It has been my experience that women here are very hard to become acquainted with and trying to get somewhere with them (i.e. the sack) has proven to be futile. They are very much into making you spend your money, time and energies and not get anywhere with them. It's strikingly similar to what occurs in Sex Prison.
So why come to Cali one may ask? That's what I've been asking myself ever since I've gotten here. It's actually making me want to go back to Sex Prison - kind-of depressing, ain't it?? actually, I think Medellin would do. I definitely recommend Medellin over Cali to anyone who is contemplating visiting either city or who can't make-up their mind which one to visit.
Later and out!!![/QUOTE]
Wow ... very interesting. I have to agree that Medellin is such a nicer city, would choose it any day over Cali.
However ... I find the chicas in Cali to be incredible ... I have several "girlfriends" there now and it's hard not to meet more of them.
Sounds like you had some bad luck amigo.
Hey Ricker, it is my understanding that you're "The Man" in Cali. Who like you, my friend. Being able to have several girlfriends in Cali is a thing of mayor leagues (so to speak). My hat off to you sir; honestly!! You must be either a very good looking fellow or someone with a lot of bling bling or both. Since it seems that you need a lot of either (or both) to hook up with a non-pro chica in this place.
A couple of nights ago I signed up with Amigos.com - I loaded a few pictures of myself and created my profile and everything else. Nothing has happened. I wrote to a whole bunch of girls from this city and non has responded. I try talking to them around town but to no avail. I guess it doesn't help that I'm originally from this place but having been brought-up and raised in the U.S. - so my non-Caleno spanish accent doesn't work to my advantage when by sight, I pass for a Colombiano. Women here expect me to be 100% Colombiano in every aspect since I'm not white - so they don't cut me any slack. In many ways this place makes me feel like being in a semi-sex prison. If it weren't for the casas with the unmotivated chicas, there wouldn't be much difference between Sex Prison USA and this place - to be honest with you.
And people in Cali are not nowhere near friendly as the people in Medellin. Over there it is far more easier to strike-up a conversation with a regular chica. Something that ofcourse cannot be done in Cali. The attitude of women in this city is that they are too good for anyone who is not some white foreigner or some alpha-male bad boy Colombiano who probably cheats on them and treats them like shit. My two-cents worth. The only reason why I came here in the first place was family related and it's the only reason why I must remain here for a while to come. Bummer!!! Thinking about it, Sex Prison USA is not as bad as everyone puts it. Especially when compared to this freakin' place.
Dude, I think you're the first person I've ever heard say that girls in Medellin are easier to meet than the ones in Cali. You may very well be right, but you are certainly the first person I've heard say it.
the conventional wisdom is that MDG women are more stuck up. (I've never been to MDG, just repeating what I've heard)
to say it's impossible to strike up a conversation with a regular girl in Cali is one of the more ridiculous things I've ever heard. That's certainly not been my experience.
and I don't play the "gringo game". Ever. (by this I mean I never act like one, and don't introduce myself as one. And I can honestly do it, since I'm actually an immigrant, therefore not "technically" a gringo, but of course by looks, they all assume I am one. Then I have to strip away their dumb gringo assumptions)
amigo.com sucks. If you want the best such cyberdating site for Colombianas period, PM me.
shit.. I even got laid on the first date with a girl I met off there LOL (and no she didn't want any money.. though she did ask for taxi fare home in the early morning)
[QUOTE=Winner71] This bar is called Albaricoque. I haven't seen it on any of the lists here on ISG. So I start talking business with my chica. She tells me.. 40k for 30 minutes, 50k for 45 minutes and 80k for an hour. Hmmm... seems kind of steep. So I call over my "host" and tell him I am ready to go. But I say, wait... "how much did you tell me it is going to cost for a chica?" He looks at Mary Luz and at this point I see Mary Luz doing all these hand signals. He says, "Did Mary Luz tell you the prices?" "Yeah, but I want you to tell them to me," I said. At this point I am positioned where I see both their faces and they both have this look on their face looking at each other like, "what the fuck do I say?" Again but very firmly I say, "Pedro, what are the prices?" Instantly he respondes... 30k pesos for 30 mintues or 40k pesos for 45 minutes." AH... as I stop him right there. "Bueno, vamos Mary Luz. 40 mil pesos para 45 minutos." I hand her the cash and up the stairs we go.
Albaricoque.. also known as Cuban's Dia and Cuban's Night.
Av. 2E Norte #24n 76
681-3427 [/QUOTE]
Winner71,
Actually Albaricoque IS listed in the Cali lists under San Vicente and prices are quoted at P$45.000 60 mins., $35.000 30 mins. I was there three weeks ago but I didn't see anything I liked so I didn't inquire as to pricing. Instead went dowb the block to Geisha’s Club (also listed), Avenida 2E Norte #24N-114. Tel: 682 3164. P$40.000 60 mins. & $30.000 30 mins. It was the middle of the week and here too I didn't see anything I liked so I went around the block to Fantasia (NOT listed and sorry I don't have the exact address but it is around the block from the other two places, NOTE, it is around the block on the next street over NOT around the corner).
Fantasia I found to be very nice with 6 girls of which 2 were good looking and one very HOT. The place is nicely furnished and towards the back there is a large dance stage for girlie shows and even a glass walled shower for shows as well and a DJ's booth. Pricing was $40,000 cop for the hour and and I tipped the HOT babe $10,000 cop for going bareback all the way. Only drawback was she was a bit camera shy.
Overall all three places looked to be ideal places to hit on the weekend because I was told at each one that the weekends draw a lot of girls to work. The prices are reasonable and you can actually sit and talk for a long while with as many girls as you wish.
Cheers,
Cubanut
[QUOTE=Cyberdas]Hey Ricker, it is my understanding that you're "The Man" in Cali. Who like you, my friend. Being able to have several girlfriends in Cali is a thing of mayor leagues (so to speak). My hat off to you sir; honestly!! You must be either a very good looking fellow or someone with a lot of bling bling or both. Since it seems that you need a lot of either (or both) to hook up with a non-pro chica in this place ...
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Not sure if I'm quite "the Man" in Cali ... sounds good though.
I think Cubanut runs around a bit more than me these days ... at least in the PFP area.
Luckily for me, I get to spend quite a few nights in Cali. I have been lucky to meet many chicas ... non pros.
I'm a normal looking guy, and definitely not bling bling flashy. I'm very friendly though and easy going.
Not sure about your bad luck, but I find it pretty easy to meet these chicas. Most guys I know say the same thing about the chicas in Cali.
I'm not into the internet dating anymore, too many disappointments and it's so much easier in person I find.
I'm pretty good at weeding out the interesadas too ... lots of experience at that.
I've been around both and Cali and Medellin quite a bit. To be honest, the chicas are very friendly in both cities, the upper crust Paisas (Medellin) definitely can be uppity though.
I've found the Paisas to be more drama-filled than the Calena in relationships also ... but both are great in general, especially compared to the typical gringa.
I hope your luck changes ... the odds are good amigo :)
If you look non-Colombian, speak decent Spanish, dress well, are confident, polite, and not too cheap, you will do well with the Colombian non-pros. IMO, if you are missing some of those characteristics, you may stuggle with non-pros in Cali. I think Ricker has all those characteristics and I can imagine it's very easy for him.
Due to my limited Spanish, picking up Non-pros has been a real challange even though I know the Cali scene and Colombian women very well (30-60 nights per year in Colombia). I've tried the non-pros many times and I really don't think my Spanish is all that bad, but I can't make out a friggin word they are saying most of the time. The pros are much more patient and clear when communicating (for obvious reasons $$$) and sadly I usually take the easy way and go straight to them.
Thanks for the feedback, you guys. Seriously, it has been a matter of bad luck but also it´s the way these Caleñas are everyday more alike AW. GLobalization is to blame, for sure. CHicas here are very much into taking you for your money. THey see un gringos and ¨gringos¨ (like myself) as meal tickets and walking ATMS. They show up for dinners and lunches and ofcourse, to go out partying and dancing but then they don´t put out. A lot of head games and B.S. And for you guys out there who are thinking that this place is paradise, considering the high cost of living and prices for everything and the decline of our beloved U.S. Dollar - other destinations might make for more suitable hunting grounds. Just my two cents worth!!!
[QUOTE=Cyberdas]Thanks for the feedback, you guys. Seriously, it has been a matter of bad luck but also it´s the way these Caleñas are everyday more alike AW. GLobalization is to blame, for sure. CHicas here are very much into taking you for your money. THey see un gringos and ¨gringos¨ (like myself) as meal tickets and walking ATMS. They show up for dinners and lunches and ofcourse, to go out partying and dancing but then they don´t put out. A lot of head games and B.S. And for you guys out there who are thinking that this place is paradise, considering the high cost of living and prices for everything and the decline of our beloved U.S. Dollar - other destinations might make for more suitable hunting grounds. Just my two cents worth!!![/QUOTE]
COLOMBIANAS as a whole have the MOST DRAMA of any people I have met in the planet. Every on of them has something "tragic" going on and they make mountains out if mole hills for some of the stupidest things. It seems that the drama rush is a way of life there and keeps them going in their mundane worlds. Keep plugging away Cyber, you WILL find what you are looking for someday soon!
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]COLOMBIANAS as a whole have the MOST DRAMA of any people I have met in the planet. Every on of them has something "tragic" going on and they make mountains out if mole hills for some of the stupidest things. It seems that the drama rush is a way of life there and keeps them going in their mundane worlds. [/QUOTE]Sounds to me like a pretty accurate description of hookers everywhere.
Italians are the biggest drama queens in the world. Just look how they also flop in soccer. They are the worst. And heaven forbid you confront one of them in Cartagena, after they call you a " fucking american jew", even when you are not a jew, then they act like the little meterosexual bitches they are.
[QUOTE=MJG Dogs]Italians are the biggest drama queens in the world. Just look how they also flop in soccer. They are the worst. And heaven forbid you confront one of them in Cartagena, after they call you a " fucking american jew", even when you are not a jew, then they act like the little meterosexual bitches they are.[/QUOTE]
I am definately not the tough guy type and dont act like it as well, Neither do I go out looking for trouble, NOR am I a six-packer or drunken loud American, BUTTTTTTTTT if a stranger whom I dont know called me that for no APARENT reason, I dont give a shit who they are or where they are from.(unless they are Colombiano Mafioso types, Im not stupid lol) I would definately HAVE TO throw down.
Wow... not me. Violence never solves anything in my opinion. I'm a lover not a fighter. Someone can use me as a punching bag and I would still just walk away. That's just me. Of course it's never happened before. Actually the last fight I was in was when I was 9 years old. I got my hand cut up on my next door neighbors braces... and that was the end of it. Never again have I swung or been swung at.
As for Colombianas and drama. I've seen it with normal Paisas and Colombian pros, but I'd never say ALL Colombianas are this way. In fact, this is why I prefer a Colombiana over a gringa. I get absolutley zero drama from my Colombian gf. In fact if there is any drama in our relationship it's on my part for occasionaly wanting to drop my pants with other chicas.
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]I am definately not the tough guy type and dont act like it as well, Neither do I go out looking for trouble, NOR am I a six-packer or drunken loud American, BUTTTTTTTTT if a stranger whom I dont know called me that for no APARENT reason, I dont give a shit who they are or where they are from.(unless they are Colombiano Mafioso types, Im not stupid lol) I would definately HAVE TO throw down.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Winner71]As for Colombianas and drama. I've seen it with normal Paisas and Colombian pros, but I'd never say ALL Colombianas are this way. In fact, this is why I prefer a Colombiana over a gringa. I get absolutley zero drama from my Colombian gf. In fact if there is any drama in our relationship it's on my part for occasionaly wanting to drop my pants with other chicas.[/QUOTE]
Winner: Pros have the most B.S. drama of course, but many of the paisas, calenas that I have dated/encountered have some drama as well, just at different levels and different instances, DARE I SAY ALL? No, but most. IMO. American girls, forget it, They have lost their humbleness when they are expelled from the womb. Your Novia doesnt give you drama, mine neither. Excellent, good for you! You have a keeper! Dont let her go!
[QUOTE=Cyberdas]Thanks for the feedback, you guys. Seriously, it has been a matter of bad luck but also it´s the way these Caleñas are everyday more alike AW. GLobalization is to blame, for sure. CHicas here are very much into taking you for your money. THey see un gringos and ¨gringos¨ (like myself) as meal tickets and walking ATMS. They show up for dinners and lunches and ofcourse, to go out partying and dancing but then they don´t put out. A lot of head games and B.S. And for you guys out there who are thinking that this place is paradise, considering the high cost of living and prices for everything and the decline of our beloved U.S. Dollar - other destinations might make for more suitable hunting grounds. Just my two cents worth!!![/QUOTE]
dude I replied to your PM, btw.
the meal ticket and walking ATM phenomenon is a factor in such relationships everywhere in the world.. whether that be with local women in your own country or abroad.
You simply have to navigate the maze and learn who the gasolineras are. (and let the big head do the thinking)
high cost of living? compared to what and where?
I can probably live fairly comfortably in Cali on $1000 US a month and that's even at the shitty 2000 to 1 exchange rate.
of course I'm not a creature of comfort.
I did grab the Italian S.O.B. and said to his face in both Spanish and English, " say it again", with my fist cocked and ready to punch. Then I was pushed away by a Colombiano and the Italian was grabbed by two bouncers and thrown out of the bar. It was an upstairs bar in the old city, a new trendy place. This Italian was mad because one of the two grils that I had with me, rebuked his advances, while I went to take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]. After I got back to the girls, both girls told me that this guy was all over my chicas friend and that she was not happy about it. So I asked the Italian to " leave her alone, she does not like you", that is when the "fucking american jew" insult was spewed out.
The next day I was in laquito at riquissmo's eating lunch when two guys from spain came up to me and said they had wished I would have flatten the Italian, they too were tired of their behavior.....
Instead of paying some guy $ 25-30 for a taxi ride. Is there a bus that goes from the airport to chippichape, or do I have to take it to a main terminal, then to chippichape.
I arrive in Cali 3 weeks from now in the early afternoon, is this doable?
[QUOTE=MJG Dogs]Instead of paying some guy $ 25-30 for a taxi ride. Is their a bus that goes from the airport to chippichape, or do I have to take it to a main terminal, then to chippichape.
I arrive in Cali 3 weeks from now in the early afternoon, is this doable?[/QUOTE]Just take a busseta from the airport, and they will drop you a the Terminal de transporte,
Kukulkan
Hi, can anybody tell me what difference there is between Cali and Medellin about non-pro scene? I know Medellin and I'd like to know what difference about the behaves of girls in Cali and Medellin. How must a stranger be involved with a non-pro girl in Cali? Has he to pay something? What?
Thanks
[QUOTE=FoxesHunter]Hi, can anybody tell me what difference there is between Cali and Medellin about non-pro scene? I know Medellin and I'd like to know what difference about the behaves of girls in Cali and Medellin. How must a stranger be involved with a non-pro girl in Cali? Has he to pay something? What?
Thanks[/QUOTE]A lot of Drama in Medellin, The Paisas are thinking they are the last Cocacola in the desert.
But I still love them
Kukulkan
*Note*
Gents, this is the Cali Report section. Can we all agree to post reports or responses to reports and keep the bickering in the general information section.
Thanks
And now the report:
Last month in the middle of May I was busy enjoying one of the fruits of Cali when I got a phone call on my cell. Normally I ignore cell calls when I am in deep concentration or just deep in a Calena. However the phone rang then stopped then rang and stopped and rang again so I pulled out of my sweet poon and answered. It was my buddy calling me from the States. He called to ask me to do him a favor.
**A little background is first in order: On my previous trip to Cali my buddy had joined me and in mid vacation he met and fell for a Calena. He now was regularly supplementing her income with bi weekly $ installments.**
So my buddy says his girlfriend has a problem in that she lost her cedula and needed to get a new one but needed some cash to do it but without her cedula she could not produce an ID necessary to retrieve the money from a Money gram. He wanted to send her $100 usd and could I give it to her and he's pay me back when I returned home. I assured him it was no problem at all and arranged for her to meet me at my hotel in three hours. We hung up and I re-entered my awaiting Calena and capped off a nice afternoon do.
Back at the hotel I showered and waited for my buddy's girlfriend. She showed up right on time at six o'clock. While we sat having a drink in front of my hotel (Cali Plaza) Robert (from Medellin Mansion/Castillo) and another friend had just gotten into Cali and were staying at a hotel two blocks away and asked if I had any dinner plans. I didn't but I asked if it was OK to bring a date. It was and we joined them at a very nice steak house (I forget the name though). The guys commented that my buddy's girlfriend was quite good looking. I agreed but assured them I was just being nice to invite her to dinner. During dinner, we had a most unusual conversation. I told them how my buddt's girlfriend was looking for a job but had no rel skills to speak of.
Now I ask you gents: How does a good looking girl with no skill sets make money? Well I'm sure we can all cum up with the same answer but I decided to try a different suggestion. So I asked my buddy's girlfriend if she had ever thought about being a madam. She said no but that it would cost a lot to set up a place of business. i agreed this was true but I asked her why not try it a different way. I told her about how many ads there were in the Pais adult section and that she could take out an ad that appealed to girls/women with loose morals looking to make money. I explained she could interview the girls first and decide if they were good enough to present to horny gringos like me. We went into more detail as to what to do once she had her stable of girls but in actuality I thought this would all be forgotten by her by the time she woke up the next day. We changed subjects and finished dinner and I put her in a cab with her money and bid her goodnight and the guys and I went out on the town.
Three days later just about noon I'm in my room just out of the shower when my hotel phone rings. The doorman says there is a girl here to see me and it turns out to be my buddy's girlfriend. So I tell him to send her in and she's all smiles and taking fast. i tell her to slow down and she shows me a copy of the Pais and flips to the adult section. She points to a circled ad and I start to laugh. It an ad for girls looking to make a buck and at the end is my buddy's girlfriend's cell phone number. She's all smiles and says she took it out for 4 days and it appeared today and she already got a call and if I'd be interested in meeting the girl. I asked if she had met her yet and she said yes and she's really nice. I told her that was good and when did the girl want to meet me. "Now" she says. "What do you mean now"? I asked. "She's out in front and she's pretty and all she wants is $100,000 for 2 hours and I'll get $20,000 for the referral, she really went for the idea". She says.
Oh boy, I'm thinking to myself. What did I get myself into? I didn't really think she would take out the ad at all let alone have a girl delivered to me. Well I thought it couldn't hurt to see what she looked like and a I'd be nice enough to do her if she was a least half way decent. I mean I know she said the girl was pretty but that didn't mean shit to me because I've seen what some girls think is pretty and I usually am in disagreement.
So I finished getting dressed and head out to the patio with my buddy's girlfriend. I get out and see only one girl sitting at a table in front. At this point I am hopping this is the girl because she is stunningly pretty. BINGO! She is the girl and I am one happy camper. Not only is she very pretty but she has the daintiest of voices I have heard in a while and has a nice personality. We sat and had a beer (yes she liked beer too) and then my girlfriend's buddy said she had to go. So I asked the girl how she wanted to do this. I meant did I give the madam the $20,000 cop fee or did she. She asked if I could give it to her and I did and off my girlfriend went and the girl and I were back in my room and locking lips and groins almost as fast as we could jump on the bed. This girl was NICE! I asked for bareback everything and she agreed but for $20,000 cop more which I gladly agreed to. True to her word she would have stayed for two hours but I had a meeting to get to with Robert and my other friend so I cut her loose after 90 minutes. Now it turned out that she was a working girl that was looking for some extra cash on the side on her days off so she wasn't new to the Pay for Play scene which was alright with me because she knew how to please a man for sure. Also, although she let me take many pictures of her clothed, she would not do so nude.
So this situation of My girlfriend's buddy showing up at noon with a new girl would happen the next day and the next day again. She was happy, the girls were happy and I was real happy that the madam was consistent in the quality. Also it turned out that the next two also were working girls in P4P places I never heard of before but worked at night and had the daytime to kill so why not make some money.
TRAGEDY STRIKES!
My buddy's girlfriend had introduced me to a third girl but before she left she asked about going out to dinner that evening since I had only three days left in town. I agreed and we went to Simon Parilla which by the way has great steaks and also great Sancocho de Gallina. Afterwards we went back to my hotel and walked across the street to the Viejo Barril for some drinks. She was getting a bit tipsy on tequila and I told her it was time for her to hit the road so i could do some night prowling. So I walked her to the corner and hailed a taxi and she took off. The next morning I get a call from my buddy asking me to call his girlfriend at her mother's home number because she had called him and was crying and he couldn't understand why. So he gave me her mom's number and I called. It turned out that the taxi driver she had gone with pulled a knife on her and stole her purse and her cellphone. OH CRAP! I thought, because I hadn't bothered to get any of the girls info like their cell PHONE numbers because my buddy's girlfriend had them in her cellphone and not only that, if any more girls called in answer to the ad she wouldn't get the calls!
Longer story shortened up my buddy's girlfriend was not hurt in the incident but was sheaken up and again did not have a cedula. So once again I spotted my buddy some money to give to his girlfriend for a new cellphone and I felt so bad about being the one hailing the taxi that ripped her off that I gave her an extra $50,000 cop for her to get a new cedeula. She'd be able to regain her same cell number in couple of days as well but I would be gone by then.
So at least I got three girls from this new "madam" and I guess I lucked out because I batted three for three meaning that each one was a hit. However, my buddy tells me that his girlfriend spent the money he gave her through me on something else and not a new cellphone. Now she wanted much more for one of those Motorla "has everything" cellphones at a cost of $250 usd. To date he hasn't sent her the money for it yet even though she did get a new cedula.
Cheers,
Cubanut
BTW-Gents, whenever possible in Cali, call for a taxi for your girl/female friend instead of hailing one down. The company will give you a three digit number and the taxi will arrive and repeat the number. Just a safety tip because it seems that the chicas are more of a target that foriegners these days in Cali.
Your chica numero uno is off the charts!
You talk about breathtaking beauty!. WOW!
Great report! Too bad she lost the numbers, I´d definitely be interested in chicas 1 and 2.
Cubanut,
Now that is the kind of story I like. Someone trys to make some money insteed of asking for it. The ending was bad but now she knows how to make money and still no work haed for it good for her and who says every good deed gets punished. You got 3 girls delivered to your door and you where happy too. This girl will do ok. And in the future if she starts a bussness every body here will help her help us jajajaja.
As usual Cuba, you are the man. I will be in MDE next week. I hope to hope to put all u have taught me too work.
Thanks again
[QUOTE=Cubanut]........OH CRAP! I thought because I hadn't bothered to get any of the girls info like their cell numbers because my buddy's girlfriend had them in her cellphone and not only that, if an more girls called in answer to the ad she wouldn't get the calls! .....[/QUOTE]
With all your experience in South America you still rely on a chica to retain information, especially gold nuggets like #1???? Dammit!!
I'm going to cry myself to sleep.
Polvo
Just got back from my first trip to Cali. My first comment is..who needs pros? It is the easiest pick-up spot I have ever been to in my life. And this includes Medellin.
[QUOTE=Q Bert]Just got back from my first trip to Cali. My first comment is..who needs pros? It is the easiest pick-up spot I have ever been to in my life. And this includes Medellin.[/QUOTE]
Who needs pros Q Bert? Apparently YOU do from what you wrote last week:
[QUOTE=Q Bert]I am more of a non-pro guy who likes to 'take the edge off' in the afternoon with a P4P gal before the big date.[/QUOTE]
Hey Q Bert, I'm just messing with you and I'm glad you enjoyed Cali but really now, how about you actually sit down and finally write a trip report. You can start with Cali. Come on now Q Bert, you have received lots of info, now it's time to give back.
Cheers,
Cubanut
BTW- Since you guys liked Madam Chica #1, here's another shot of her.
Nice chica.. I didn't care much for #2 or #3 but #1 is a Winner :-)
[QUOTE=Cubanut]Who needs pros Q Bert? Apparently YOU do from what you wrote last week:
Hey Q Bert, I'm just messing with you and I'm glad you enjoyed Cali but really now, how about you actually sit down and finally write a trip report. You can start with Cali. Come on now Q Bert, you have received lots of info, now it's time to give back.
Cheers,
Cubanut
BTW- Since you guys liked Madam Chica #1, here's another shot of her.[/QUOTE]
Your buddy's girlfriend . . . is she in the p4p business or a regular girl? Sounds like your "make your own Madam" is worth trying again . . . & again. I am just wondering how much chica #1 is at her regular p4p spot?
When will you be back in Medellin? I sent you and Ricker PMs but have not heard back :(
[QUOTE=Cubanut]
BTW- Since you guys liked Madam Chica #1, here's another shot of her.[/QUOTE]
Cuba; this is First Class. Beautiful girl you have.
Balluba
[QUOTE=Cubanut].......BTW- Since you guys liked Madam Chica #1, here's another shot of her.[/QUOTE]
Please, please, please tell me that at least you remembered where she worked!! :-0
Suerte!
Polvo
[QUOTE=Cubanut]
... BTW-Gents, whenever possible in Cali, call for a taxi for your girl/female friend instead of hailing one down. The company will give you a three digit number and the taxi will arrive and repeat the number. Just a safety tip because it seems that the chicas are more of a target that foriegners these days in Cali.[/QUOTE]
Nice report Cuba ... nice fotos too as usual. Like all the other guys, I give foto 1 the top nod.
My new girlfriend just got robbed in Cali also.
A few punks roughed up and robbed her and her sister walking back from a store near their casa.
A shame really, but it amazes me how fast these chicas bounce back.
I can imagine any gringa friend of mine would be traumatized for months over an incident like that.
See ya around amigo :)
[QUOTE=Ricker]Nice report Cuba ... nice fotos too as usual. Like all the other guys, I give foto 1 the top nod.
My new girlfriend just got robbed in Cali also.
A few punks roughed up and robbed her and her sister walking back from a store near their casa.
A shame really, but it amazes me how fast these chicas bounce back.
I can imagine any gringa friend of mine would be traumatized for months over an incident like that.
See ya around amigo :)[/QUOTE]
And dont forget my Novia getting jumped for her cell phone in a very nice area in CALI "El Penon" When she was younger, she got robbed my 2 dudes with a Machete, TODAY if she has to go out she goes with my cunado or family member and will leave her wallet and Cell Phone at home OR transfer her SIM to the cheap NOKIA. DO NOT KEEP YOU GUARD DOWN IN CALI! EVER!
Novia Held Up In Cali For Cell Phone!
Hello all, After going to Cali every six weeks for the past year and a half a bit of violence finally hit home,, after a nice fun filled day with the NOVIA in el centro, on the way home in the taxi we stopped at my apartamento and she gets out to open the door and puts the key in the door to open it, i tell the cab driver to drive on, because i was on my way for a 7pm massage apointment, I get a call two minutes later from her brother panicking on is cell phone that my baby was held-up two minutes ago in front of the apratment by 3 men and one woman on dirt bikes, who strongheld her and physically removed her cell phone, told her to be quiet OR ELSE and then sped-off and left her physically and emotionally in distress, I get home to find her crumbled-up on the kitchen floor in shock and unstopable crying, i try to console her to no avail, telling her that thank-god she is alive and not hurt or dead and that the superficial products can be easily replaced, and thank-god that that they didnt go into the apartment and rob the place WITH ALL MY STUFF including laptop and ipod, etc etc, why didnt they go in? because this was a random act and they didnt know whom or what was waiting for them inside, my CUNADO told me that this was a random normal day in CALI and just another statistic, which i sorrily agree to, but this really hit close to home and opened my eyes even more, to see this once proud, beautiful, strong CALENA, reduced to a mere statistic!
Just back,
Cali was fun.
Lots of day time casas. For Cubanut, Bru, the 'madame' at one of the daytime casas kept asking about you. Question for Cubanut: What did you do to make the madame like you so much ?
To me, the quality was much better than the at night for the price. Night time could be expensive so I did prepagos.
Girls are pretty friendly. English still turns heads.
Have a picture to compare to Ricker's calena.
[quote=cubanut]who needs pros q bert? apparently you do from what you wrote last week:
hey q bert, i'm just messing with you and i'm glad you enjoyed cali but really now, how about you actually sit down and finally write a trip report. you can start with cali. come on now q bert, you have received lots of info, now it's time to give back.
cheers,
cubanut
btw- since you guys liked madam chica #1, here's another shot of her.[/quote]
damn cubnut, you make it awfully hard to contradict yourself! haha.
when i say "who needs pros?" it's a figure of speech. hell, we all need pros sometimes. i was just noting how easy it is to pick up girls in cali.
and you're right, i need to sit down and write a report. heck i was in buca, armenia, pereira, cali, medellin, and bogota the last two weeks! i have just been so busy with my move to medellin. nothing is easy in colombia in regards to changing apartments, moving, etc.
i have been answering a lot of emails if that counts for anything!
So post it. What's the point of writing that if you aren't posting it?
[QUOTE=Beersterry]Just back,
Have a picture to compare to Ricker's calena.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Q Bert]NOTHING is easy in Colombia in regards to changing apartments, moving, etc.[/QUOTE]
The ONLY thing that is easy in Colombia is getting laid. Everything else is very difficult. It took 4 months to get gas service to my apartment in Medellin. Then there are the banks, DAS, DIAN, MRE, Aduana,...
Night time fun was hard after looking all day as things are a little spread out in Cali. I called a girl who's number that my friend gave me.
Outstanding body. Tall, thin and hard. The picture does'nt do her justice. I broke my cherry with her. My cola cherry.
[QUOTE=Beersterry]...... I broke my cherry with her. My cola cherry.[/QUOTE]
Did she use a strap on?? :-)
Polvo
[QUOTE=Polvo]Did she use a strap on?? :-)
Polvo[/QUOTE]LOL
What I can say?
LOL
In Cali there will be an Election and they close the bars and prevent the sale of liquor for Friday, Saturday and Sunday - July 6 - 8. I have confirmed this with several people including an owner of a bar, and managers of 2 hotels in Cali. I have since changed my itinerrary but wanted to give a heads!
Well everyone a quick introduction. I've mongered for close to 10 years now which includes Costa Rica, a tad bit of Panama, a bit of tj (bleh), and mainly Cali.
I've stumbled to Cali sort of by accident. My main reason was not for mongering. When I travelled there in the past, my journies would last from 6 weeks until DAS wanted me to go. I've probably lived a total of 2+ years there. I've lived everywhere in Cali, from the north, to the south (much more fun imo) and to the most dangereous areas like agua blancos (marrioquin)
I ve had as many as three girlfriend at once. One was a model and a television host, another was dating a proffesional soccer player, and the other was a nice cute normal vixen. The latter two lived in the gym. The hard part is not so much getting them, but managing them. Imagine dealing with three stalkers who called your cell by the hour. Now those are problems.
I've read the reports and wanted to clear a few things. Cali is not that great for shorter trips like a week or so. It does offer a unique taste however to the experienced mongers and a nice change of pace.
You will get a nice taste to feel a bit like brad pitt. Imagine hot girls giving you flirtatious looks or they stuttering in your presence in some cases. The food is pretty cheap and quite good if you know where to go.
The problem with shorter trips is that it is a hit or miss as far as mongering goes. The higher end casas do have some cuties but some of the times they can be hard to find. The middle and cheaper places is truly a diamond in the rough. Many times you will be spending more times in taxis than casas since there might be one really cute girl out of the several. They are there but you just have to find them.
Like I said food is cheap, and so are basic entertainments like going to see the movies and the likes. (I don't go to chipechape, leave that for the newbies). Not much to do for shorter trips in comparison to other trips. Also stay in the north for shorter visits. North is set up more for tourists and you will find better and more mongering spots.
For longer term stay. Like a few weeks or more, that is where Cali gets its value. Mainly because you can utilize your gringo pass and pick a nonpro or two. The non pros and the people are where its at. Also, you get to spend more time on the better half of Cali which is the south. Palmetto and gardin plaza are two cool shopping centers to chill.
You will slowly start to embrance the colombian culture by being dancing some salsa, going to the 18 which is a big hill where you can chill in a very cool climate while sipping on some agua pinella con queso which comes nice and hot.
You will meet some interesting calenos who can accomodate you to san andrecito in centro where you can buy ps2 games for $2 a pop (once you get it chipped).
The non pro action blows away the pro action and you can only get the fruit of its ripings with longer term stay.
Spanish is a must unless you have reliable helpers to guide you around. Otherwise don't bother coming. Air conditioners will be your best friends unless you like to sweat during sleep. Its not that hot but not quite comfortable to get a nice sleep.
Nothing has ever happenned to me but everyone I met has been robbed twice in the past couple of years. It is not safe but not that dangereous as well. Use basic common sense at all times.
Yes, many colombian women like you for your coin but many of them find americans intriguing as well. Its better to be on the safe side and just have the mentality that many are after you as a wayout. Its better to have this mentality than to open arms blindly. Its like anywhere else, once someone knows you are easy and vulnerable, they will take advantage.
Great places to meet non pros are in shopping centers and gyms. You don't need to have great game. Just dress nice (not expensive), be clean and well groomed, and be pleasant. You can even do the business card trick if you are shy or just want a handful of easy numbers in an hour of hotties.
Lemme know if you want other basic info.
PS. I was thinking of semiretiring here but I think Bogota will be much better for that. Anyone want to compare the two cities? Never been to bogs myself.
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Having visited Cali more than a dozen times in the past 5 years, I completely agree with your assessment.
I would like to hear more about your time in Agua Blanca. The only person that was brave enough to take me there was Antifreeze, but that was only for a few hours. I really didn't get a feel for the place. Everyone else (Colombians) I've asked has said they have/would/will never go there. Is it really that dangerous and are there attractive/friendly women there? How do they react to gringo there?
I've only been to Bogota briefly so I can't help much in comparing it to Cali. I would say the people I've met from Bogota in the US are very different from those from Cali and Medellin. They are less outgoing and less friendly, but they seem like good people when you get to know them. The climate would be a problem for me long-term. A few chilly days are nice, but it almost never makes it past 70 degrees with many cloudy/rainy days.
Hey all,
I just spent a fabulous ten days in Cali. What a great city!
I went there on vacation with one of the groups that sets up social events between American guys and Colombian women. Of course, they're all looking to find a nice guy and settle down, but they're so beautiful and so cool. I honestly cannot imagine spending any time with professionals.
That being said, the first night I did stop at Club Escoses, just a block down from the Hotel Intercontinental. Hard to find. Same side of the street, with a white facade. The sign is there, but not lit up. The staff in the hotel knew what I meant, but the Federales I asked were clueless. There, I hung with a beautiful nubian who came back to my hotel for a full night. Beautiful ladies, but a very small club.
At the hotel, you have to register any lady-friends at the front desk and pay 25, 000 Pesos (about $13US). This is partly to make money for the hotel, but also partly for your safety. The ladies have to show I. The. To get in.
After that first night, though, I had more ladies than I had time for. In a week and a half, I only spent one night alone (and that by choice. Needed some sleep for a busy, next day). I found one fantastic 22 year-old with whom I spent five days and four nights. Great. What a cool woman. She showed me around town, we laughed, danced, partied, etc. She even scored some "mota. " Of course I paid for dinners, hotels, cover charges, etc. , but I was OK with that. She was a student.
The women in Cali are the most beautiful I've seen (in my 20 countries), and so cool!
Regarding safety, I had NO problems whatsoever, nor did any of the 30+ guys I was with. No muggings, no ATM-drives, no weapons, etc. There are a lot of Federales on the streets, and I think that helps a lot.
I'm definitely going back!
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This girl I fucked many many times.
She suck deeptroath until you cum.
She drinks it all.
She love to lick ass and pussy loves bigones and and she like to talke dirty when you do her doggystyle.
I really think that she is the greatest in town. But, there is always a but, she also told me that she had a girlfriend but she lose the number. Her girlfriend love to fuck guys with a strapon. And I like that very much. So help me out her amigos. I am lookink for ibaana or sandra in Cali.
The girl from the picture named mona, and is 27years old.
She told me that she loves it when 2 guys doing her. So be my guest.
She works only one month in the same club, but when you ask around, you find her easy.
[quote=kdog]having visited cali more than a dozen times in the past 5 years, i completely agree with your assessment.
i would like to hear more about your time in agua blanca. the only person that was brave enough to take me there was antifreeze, but that was only for a few hours. i really didn't get a feel for the place. everyone else (colombians) i've asked has said they have/would/will never go there. is it really that dangerous and are there attractive/friendly women there? how do they react to gringo there?
i've only been to bogota briefly so i can't help much in comparing it to cali. i would say the people i've met from bogota in the us are very different from those from cali and medellin. they are less outgoing and less friendly, but they seem like good people when you get to know them. the climate would be a problem for me long-term. a few chilly days are nice, but it almost never makes it past 70 degrees with many cloudy/rainy days.[/quote]kdog,
agua blanca is pretty dangereous but in some of the better areas it is not too bad. if you go there with another colombian (especially one that knows that area well) during day light and you dress down, there shouldn't be much problems. you can pass by but i wouldn't want to hang around for long.
i stayed with in-laws so i was introduced to quite a few peeps there and was already established. they lived right on the corner on the main road and very close to police which helps too.
i found some gems in the gym there. girls had nice bodies and were strong (lifting on average of 500lbs on leg press for reps). i was going to date one but having other girls already to work with was plenty of for me.
i personally wouldn't make the trip down there as you are not missing out much on anything. you will find more black girls and still there are plenty of morenas. the girls are more agressive and a bit easier to get than say chicas in the north, but still not worth going imo. i did however witnessed mouth wide open-i've met the man of my dreams a few times.
as far as bogota is concerned, i've heard the same message as well in terms of the people. this is a small concern from me (not a biggie though) because i do appreciate the openess from the calenos. i'm hoping that having more hot girls will balance that out.
from the reports i've read the pro activity beats cali hands down and there is much more to do as well.
i don't mind for cloudy days but i'm not a huge fan of chilly weather. i'm hoping that the cool weather will beat cali's hot weather especially when it comes to bedtime.
i'll post more on cali once i can get access to a computer as its tough posting from my cell phone.
Interesting pic. Are you GatorL7 at friendfinder.com
This is no Calena
[QUOTE=Bodyguard44]This girl I fucked many many times.
She suck deeptroath until you cum.
She drinks it all.
She love to lick ass and pussy loves bigones and and she like to talke dirty when you do her doggystyle.
I really think that she is the greatest in town. But, there is always a but, she also told me that she had a girlfriend but she lose the number. Her girlfriend love to fuck guys with a strapon. And I like that very much. So help me out her amigos. I am lookink for ibaana or sandra in Cali.
The girl from the picture named mona, and is 27years old.
She told me that she loves it when 2 guys doing her. So be my guest.
She works only one month in the same club, but when you ask around, you find her easy.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Spivvv]
Regarding safety, I had NO problems whatsoever, nor did any of the 30+ guys I was with.[/QUOTE]
Glad to see that 30 guys out on the town didn't have a problem. Is it only me that wonders?
suerte
jes
Well I am in Cali and so far I like what I see. First of all, I love the warm weather. After being in Buenos Aires and Quito back to back the heat is a welcome change. I almost passed out when I hit the airport and saw the girls waiting in the terminal. I don't know what the guys on the forum are looking for who said that there are a bunch of dogs here but I saw hotties in every direction. Titties and ass are busting out all over in Cali and if you are into mulatas this THE PLACE. I popped about 4 boners in the Unicentro mall today while shopping for a belt and a pair of jeans. I was staying in the ridiculously overpriced Radisson for a couple of days because I arrived on a night flight and my paranoia got the best of me. Please guys, don't make the same mistake that I made and stay here. The Radisson Cali sucks and it is nowhere near being worth the money that they charge. The first day that I arrived the bellman was helping me with my bags. My suitcase is really heavy and as he tried to place it on the foldable luggage rack in the room the wooden rack disentegrated before our very eyes and the bag fell to the floor. The two of us had a laughing attack after looking at the rack in splinters. Then the nexy day the maid wanted to clean my room AT 8:30 AM! And seemed irritated when I told her to come back later. When she came in the room I had the latch on the door locked. As she opened the door the wood framing strip that the latch was attached to ripped off of the wall and she walked right in no problem. I stumbled to the door and was met with more splintered wood at my feet. Now I'm worried that if I brought a wild chica in here that the both of us might wind up falling through the floor of this joint and fucking downstairs in the lobby. Keep in mind that this place is charging $160 per night. Then, the last straw, tonight while I was relaxing in my room this guy walks right in with his bags and is getting ready to share the place with me. They had given him a key down at the reception thinking that the room was empty. If I hadn't been here he could have walked off with half of my stuff and I wouldn't have known what the fuck happened. GIVE THE RADISSON Cali A PASS IT SUCKS!
Today while I was looking for a new hotel I struck up a conversation with my cabbie (about the fine-ass chicas in Cali of course) and it didn't take him long to mention that one of the best casas was very close. It was funny because I mentioned chicas and then 2 minutes later we were parked in front of the casa which was located on the same street that we were driving on. I don't know if this was a coincidence or if there are just a million casas in Cali but at first I was worried because the building was so non-descript. There was no sign or anything just a large white building with a large wooden door. I was looking around trying to identify landmarks so that I could cut the cabbie out of the equation next time so I forced myself to remember that the Hotel Toscana Plaza was across the street. From the address of the hotel and info from a lists of casas on another site I have deduced that this might have been Cupid's Club. They are renovating the interior now so I was even a little more apprehensive until I saw the chicas. I saw 6 chicas but I was told that 15 were available. Out of six one was a a complete dog, two were doable and three were BLAZING. When I saw Karen I was ready to make my move. I had a sit down with her and discussed my needs which included a BBBJ. Unfortunately she wasn't having it and she gave me a song and dance about house rules etc. Up in the room she changed her story and told me that the extras were only for repeat customers so we will see how all of this pans out in the future. I haven't had a covered BJ in about a year so it took some getting used to at first but in the end I was grateful because her BJ was just a tad bit teethy and the extra layer of latex provided just the amount of protection that I needed from those 20 year old latin choppers. On the positive side she provides a lot of suction and Colombian condoms are twice as thin as Ecuadorian condoms and probably 10 times as thin as Argentine condoms so everything turned out fine. Her body was saying, "I'm TWENTY. I'm TWENTY. I'm TWENTY". Her titties were so perky and firm that my dick stayed hard for almost the entire session. I went down for a taste and then we started in doggie, then missionary, then back to doggie again for the first finish. Then good conversation and back to some oral adventures then a hardcore pounding in doggie for the finish. She gave me her number for delivery before work and is offering a discounted price so we will see how that works out. So far, so good. The quality of the fuck so far is not at the same level as what I am used to but in all honesty for the age and the beauty of the girl the level of P4P in Buenos Aires has been surpased. I guess this just proves that every mongering hole has its positives and negatives. So as the scale pans out so far we have: good protected sex with your local coco Miss Universe (Cali). Vs risky porno sex with your local Paraguayan freakazoid (Buenos Aires). Something for everyone.
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Next Friday I have a 10 hour stop in Cali on my way Cartagena. As this is my first visit to Cali, I am looking to maximize my enjoyment there as I will arrive after 10pm. What I plan to do is grab a taxi at the airport, find a hotel and then head out on the hunt. Any recommendation on cheap but safe hotel as well as where to find the local talent? I’m cheap and don’t believe in paying a lot for anything but expect top quality.
Nice report, Big Bob!
I am scoping out Cali so I will be following your trip with great interest.
May I make a suggestion that I learned after filing many reports here? It's not a criticism, just an idea to help spread your information farther.
It is a good idea to break down your paragraphs into smaller chunks.
When a lot of guys see such a big, continuous block of words they don't have the patience to read that much, so they just pass by.
To make it easy on the eyes, start a new paragraph after every couple sentences. Many more readers will hang in there and gain from your insights. Kind of like I've set it up here.
People will often read one sentence at a time and think to themselves "Well, I guess I can read one more."
Keep up the good work. It is nice to have you on board!
DB
Very nice post Big Bob, and I am looking forward to reading many more, and hopefully you will share some pics along the way! :)
Blacksaber wrote he needs guidance on what to do during a 10-hour layover in Cali ... me too!
1. how long ( & cost of ) is a taxi ride from airport to the action?
2. best places to go from say, 11 pm till around 3 am to hunt for poontang?
(remember, just one night there, so it has to be P4P)
3. Unlike Blacksaber, I am not too concerned about budget - I hear Cali
chicks are the hottest and I want the HOTTEST!
Gracias!
It's about a 30 minute ride from the airport to the mongering areas of Cali and it will cost you around 40 Mil ($20) in taxi. If you want to save a few Mil, there should be a bus that will go as soon as it fills-up (it doesn't take long) outside baggage claim and then you would just take a taxi from the main bus terminal in Cali to your hotel of choice. This will total around 10 Mil (bus plus taxi). Having said that, it's probably not worth wasting 15-30 minutes on this transportation mode to save 30 Mil especially if you are only there for 10 hours. I usually do it for the experience (meeting chicas on the bus) as opposed to saving money.
I would not get a regular hotel for a 10 hour layover. You can find some very nice pay-by-the-hour hotels where you can bring a woman to the room for no extra charge (unlike many of the regular hotels). Kiss Me hotel is one I remember by name. I don't recall the exact price, but around 30 Mil ($15) for a couple hours seems about right. A decent "regular" hotel will be at least 100 Mil plus girl fee and won't be as nice.
Great tips Kdog, thanks. We were gonna try to stay up all night until our flight the next morning. But I think we'll check out these "love motels"
However: DOes anyone have any tips on which places to go to for a sure thing to find the HOT Cali P4P chicks? Like really hot chicks. Price isn't the main issue. Not a strip club necessarily, but a place for take-out would be nice
Gracias,
Straddler
There are few casas open at night in Cali. You're best best at night for hot P4P women are the major strip clubs: Flores Frescas (near Sheraton Hotel and very expensive), Escoces (near Intercontinental Hotel and better priced), Phareon (Near Hotel Torres and cheap). You can ask a taxi driver to take you to some casas, but there are relatively few choices at night and you might not want to waste the 1-2 hours hunting if you only have a few hours. Note, things shut-down in Cali around 2am and when they do, there will be almost nothings available. Street walkers on Avenida Sexta can be a last resort if this happens. Enojoy your visit and give us a report on what you find.
I have passed this place a bunch of times during the day and it appears to be open but there is never anyone there. It is listed in the Cali lists section as a casa but it just looks like a regular bar/restaurant. Does anyone have any info on this place? Busiest nights? What is the setup here?
Does anyone have any info on this bar/restaurant located on Avenida 8. It is posted in the Cali lists as a casa but it doesn't appear to be one. Are there P4P girls there and action on site? I have passed it during the day and it is always pretty dead. Is there a lot of action there at night?
[QUOTE=Big Bob 7]Does anyone have any info on this bar/restaurant located on Avenida 8. It is posted in the Cali lists as a casa but it doesn't appear to be one. Are there P4P girls there and action on site? I have passed it during the day and it is always pretty dead. Is there a lot of action there at night?[/QUOTE]I think is a regular bar-restaurant. Not the casa we are looking for LOL.
Kukulkan
i moved from the horrible radisson cali about 5 days ago and i have had no regrets. as chronicled in my previous report i had numerous bad experiences there and i am sure that they are only in business because cali doesn't receive a lot of foriegn tourist traffic and as a result many hotels do not have websites and are not affiliated with popular travel and tourism referral sites. honestly, before i came to cali, when i was looking for a hotel i got the impression that my only options would be the hotel dann, the intercontinental, the radisson, and the hotel torre de cali. all of these place are expensive and i had to really do some research on this site and others in order to find other options. i decided that i was going to spend some time here so i focused on suite/aparthotel situations. i looked at the cali plaza, terrazas granada, aparthotel del rio, and the plaza real. they were all kind of in the same price range (expensive but not too expensive) and offfered different plusses an minuses.
i ultimately decided to stay at the cora aparthotel. i really like the ambience of this place and love the location. it is near the juan valdez cafe on the corner of 9th avenue and calle 17. i am two blocks away from avenida sexta and about 7-8 blocks away from the most popular casas in the north (by the hotel del rio) and about 8-10 blocks away from club escoces (by the intercontinental). the place is really clean and safe with a 24 hour doorman, a/see, cable, wireless internet, free continental breakfast, and hot water. i'm paying the monthly rate of $1275 which is high but it's actually the cheapest gringo price that i could find. i looked at some apartments which were much cheaper but in a few cases i had my doubts about the colombian owners and what would happen if there was some kind of problem (would they fix things, would services like utilities etc. be dependable and reliable, could the owners be trusted). also most of the places did not have everything on my wish list (one of the most important wishes being hot running water) and i was being promised that these amenities would be added especially for my stay (yeah right! ). i even ran into an expat gringo here who was a trying to rent his ramshackle place which had serious security issues to me at a 400% mark up (he didn't know that i found out what he was paying for rent in advance). i figured that if i was going to get fucked i would rather get fucked by a local organization that was stable with local connections than by a totally unknown owner who could vanish at any moment. today i decided to visit the casas by the hotel del rio. i have been seeing a couple of girls from casas in the south at my place and as a result have not tried a bunch of different places. the service from karen and paola is excellent (and an added plus of the cora is that there is no chica fee for one chica at a time) but i have to pay their cab fair back to the casas which adds up. as a result i am now in search of an "around the way girl". i set out in search of the casas today at about 1 pm. i had no problem finding the clinica del amor but the other one (which is listed as being near the torre de cali) eluded me. actually part of the problem is that i forgot the entire address and was hoping to just luck up on it but i had no such luck. i doubled back to the clinica del amor and as i was entering a group of three colombians were going in at the same time. from the outside the place doesn't look all that inviting so i had my doubts. also adding to my doubts was that a block away in a gas station parking lot i saw 5 guys passing around a vile of coke and snarffing down hits of it with a door key in broad daylight.
the guard patted us down and we entered a large white lobby area with about 5 guys inside sitting on couches rep001tered throughout the room. the three guys who enetered with me went to take seats on two couches which were set on an elevated riser near the back of the room. i wanted to give them their space so i sat on a couch opposite them near where the other men were sitting. this turned out to be a grave mistake because immediately afterwards we were rapidly greeted by about 30 chicas half of which totally ignored me because the guys that i was sitting next to were employees and not customers. i was also at a disadvantage because the chicas greeted these guys first and the madame of the house took their selection first (obviously because they were sitting in the right place and i wasn't). it was a newbie mistake that i made that i am hoping that the rest of you can avoid although it is probably not even an issue if you enter alone. i have been to casas with a similar setup in mexico and argentina but i will say that the difference here is that there are many more girls in the selection and that they greet you really quickly and you really need to be focused on the selection process as the names and body parts are flying by so fast that it can make you dizzy. my one saving grace was that i had experienced this situation before and i knew that i had to pick at least 3 girls because these other guys might have had the same girl in mind. they had a little bit of everything there, white blonde chicas, mulatas, indigenous girls, huge natural racks, huge fake racks, the girl next door, bionic super sluts with collagen lip injections and cheek and ass implants. habia de todo! and that actually makes the selection process difficult.
my first pick, sure enough, was chosen by one of the colombians so the madam informed me that i could session with jennifer my second choice. she also explained that there is a two-tiered price structure for the girls. they are wearing different colored wrist bands and i think the ones with orange bands are vip girls and cost more. i am not sure about the color because she told me this after i saw the girls and they flew by so quickly that i didn't even notice that they were wearing these wrist bands. also both of the girls that i had chosen were of the bargain basement variety apparently and there was no additional charge for my picks. also you can upgrade the room to a larger more comfortable room with a stereo system or for 50000 pesos you can go all out and get the jacuzzi room with the girl of your choice. i would be tempted to try that option if i found a great provider here but seeing as it was my first session with a new chica i figured that the jacuzzi could just provide an exuse for the chica to loaf on the job so i decided to pass on it. they sent me to a room in the back where you have an opportunity to interview the chica before agreeing to the session. we shot the shit for a minute because i wanted to try to get a sense of this girls vibe. she seemed nice enough but after a minute she steered the conversation back to business. i told her that i was looking for a bbbj and she said fine for a tip. i agreed to tip but we didn't settle on a fixed amount and up we went to the room.
the majorty of the rooms are upstairs and they have plenty of them. jennifer said that there are over 20 rooms in the place although it does not appear to be that large from the outside. the room was pretty big and seemed to be clean with a comfortable king size bed and a shower. she suggested that we take a shower and i agreed but provided that we would shower together. she seemed to agree but once we got to the shower area she said that it was too small for the both of us (which was a crock) but at least i could keep an eye on her and i know that she wasn't rifling through my pants. when i saw jennifer in the back room i realized why she was my second choice. although she seemed to have a great body and a decent personality she had bad skin and was trying to cover the acne on her cheeks with way too much foundation. it wasn't enough to put me off of poking her though and i agreed to the session. when she started undressing for the shower i started to have a little bit of buyers remorse because once she removed her top her tits lost their perkiness and sagged down to their "actual position" and they were joined in their voyage southward by a rolling-polly, wrinkled "pudding belly". she clearly was a mom and had stretch marks not only in her belly but in her breasts as well. i wasn't disgusted, just a little dissapointed when i was thinking about all that other hot assed trim in the lobby going to waste. she said that she was 24 and i might believe it because the rest of her body was pretty toned but she has a 7 year old daughter. i went to take a shower and of course, in true cali fashion, the place has no hot water. the water was ice cold and i let out a yelp as it made contact with my body but i have to admit that after walking around lost in the afternoon heat i needed it.
we moved to the bed and she told me to lay back so that she could give me my bbbj. i tried to caress her breasts and she insisted that i lay back so that she could get to work. i knew at this point that i was in for a mechanical session and not a gfe. in my experience when a girl is determined to control the session and get right to work like that it means that she has no intention of really connecting with the client and she just has a routine that gets people off. i knew then that there would be no kissing and no real sensuality or emotion so i decided to try to make the best of it with a positive mental attitude. at least the session was only going to set me back 20 bucks. she started to blow me and i have to admit that there just is no substitute for a bbbj. so far everything that i have been getting here has been covered so it was a real pleasure to feel that soft, moist tongue on my cock. after a while i told her to lick my balls and i sat back and relaxed as her tongue flicked across my sensitive wrinkled sack. once i was hard she asked if she could put the condom on and i told her, "no, keep sucking! " and she went back to work. i told her that i was ready for sex and we got in the missionary position. she then commanded me to lay flat on her stomach while i fucked her. this chick was starting to bother me because she is a little too fucking bossy! really i think that she wanted to limit the depth of my thrusts by keeping me in this position. i started to pound her as hard as i could from this position and i started to get really turned on. actually, i almost came like a little "premie" ***** and i had to tell myself, "whoa there partner. you better gear it down a notch if you want to get any value out of this snatch. " i slowed down my thrusts and got control of myself for a minute. at that point i decided that i had had enough of this "tummy fucking" and i grabbed her legs put her heels on my shoulders and went to town on her ass "big bob 7 style". the combination of seeing her legs dangling over my shoulders like a rag doll in the mirror in front of me and the sound of her moaning and the thud of our bodies slapping together pushed me over the brink and i let out a scream and buried my cock deep into her snatch while my cum spurted out between us. she asked me if i liked it and i told her "si" while she was pulling of the jizz filled rubber and wiping my cock with a tissue. when she placed the roll of toilet paper back on the table by the bed i noticed that it had her name scrawled across the top of the roll in black magic marker. i asked why. she said, "cuando no hay suficiente las chicas me lo roban. " i suddenly had an image of 2 chicas involved in a catfight, scratching each others faces and pulling each other hair with a roll of toilet paper with one of their names on it being tugged back and forth between there bulging, jiggling titties.
jennifer rolled over and requested that i rub her back. i agreed and at first i was into since i was relaxed now and she had a nice ass but then she started dictating where and how i should rub her. this chick is really fucking annoying and bossy. finally, i rolled her over and let her know that i was ready for more action. she said, "no, rub my back for 5 more minutes. " i told her i wanted her too badly and couldn't wait (which was actually a lie but it sounds better than, "get to work *****. ") so we went for round two. now she doesn't want to give a bbbj again so she put a condom on and started sucking. then before my cock was hard she rolled over into the doggie-style position and tries to put my soft dick in her pussy. i tell her to suck it more but she refuses now because it has her pussy juice on it. i tell her that we agreed on a bbbj so she reluctantly removed the condom and started sucking. then she realizes that she doesn't have any more comdoms and asks me if i have any. i don't and she calls for another condom. she starts giving the bbbj but whenever a drop of semen leaks out of my cock she stops blowing and wipes my cock of with a towel which is really fucking annoying and disprupts the flow. with my cock at about 3/4 mast she puts the newly delivered condom on and i mount her in missionary. her pussy is as dry as the sahara and starts pulling the condom off of my cock so she keeps stopping me to adjust it. this whole affair has just become a complete pain in the ass so i grab one of her legs, hoist it in the air so that i can get a deep penetration, and pound her as fast and as hard as i can until i bust. at that point i really just wanted to get it over with.
as i was laying next to her a wave of resentment started to pass over me because of the way that she handled the session. i consciously changed my mindset from a negative one to a positive one because i realized that i wanted to return to this place and test drive some other chicas. there is a lot of talent there and i don't know how much the girls talk to each other. i decided to treat this girl with class even though i will never fuck her again in this life or the next one. i gave her a light kiss on the shoulder and told her how beautiful she is and how grateful i was for her time but i had to leave then and i started to dress. she told me to wait for her while she took a shower. she asked me if i thought that her tits here droopy and i said, "of course they aren't they are perfect". she asked me when i would be coming back and i said who knows maybe tommorrow. she let me know that she was going to be working tommorrow too. oh joy! well we ended with a kiss and on a good note and strangely enough i felt satisfied as i walked out into the sweltering afternoon heat. i will definately be giving this place a second chance by i think that i will check out its neighbor first. if i can remember the correct address.
p.s. does anyone have any info on sexta streetgirls? i had dinner at cathay, a chinese restaurant around the corner from my hotel and this really young street hooker passed by who was gorgeous. she was shaking her ass in my direction as bait and the bait was working. the only thing that stopped me from pulling her were reports that i read about guys being drugged and robbed here by chicas with knockout drugs smeared on their bodies. i was also worried that she may have been ****. what is the risk level really like? am i being paranoid?
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Too bad Big Bob,
Timing is also key when going to doctor amor. It sounds like you hit a bad time or a bad day....
I like to go in the early afternoon, because it is not as crowded and the girls are fresher and there are two shifts, so you get the best of the litter
I had three great sessions two weeks ago, with a spinner named tania, who gave me BBBJ every time, rimmed me, and gave me two pops on each session.
like anything else VMMV................................
I have been to Doctor Amor a few times and I would have to say I have had good sessions there. The women do tend to turnover there. I recommend this place because it is clean and well worth the price ( 38,000 ) pesos when I went there in early December. Has any one ever had a session with Judy?
Wanted to try her but I don't know when exactly I will be back and I have a girl friend in Cali that keeps me well occupied there. Judy is about 5 '6" white with a nice figure and big fake tits. When the girls are introduced she usually wears something see-thru.
Usually Dr. Amor is a definate good place to go. Service is usally better then most casas this is my favorite place. Also I have been told Girls like working there because of the cleanliness. Last year they changed owners and rearranged the pricing and added the Jazzusi option. Good move I believe. However once I had an awcuard experience. I once seen a person check in his gun. I know everyone gets padded down when they come in.However I guess you are asked to check in your baggage (jejejejej)
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this is very insightful.
it's hard to get a gfe with a casa girl, their day consists of trying to get 20 minute quickies with the local clientele and furthermore, when you have to grab her like that out of the lineup, very quickly and away you go, that doesn't help establishing ground for a gfe situation.
it's one of the major things i hate about casas.
[quote]i tried to caress her breasts and she insisted that i lay back so that she could get to work. i knew at this point that i was in for a mechanical session and not a gfe. in my experience when a girl is determined to control the session and get right to work like that it means that she has no intention of really connecting with the client and she just has a routine that gets people off. i knew then that there would be no kissing and no real sensuality or emotion [/quote]as to sexta streetwalkers: a very sizable percentage is ****. if she looks young/too young, she is.
what degree of risk? as to what? fucking a too young girl you shoudn't be fucking?
that's an ethical decision for yourself to dwell on. since that's a situation i'll never find myself in i can't comment on the risk as to potential legal ramifications.
as to getting drugged, it's happened and it happens, usually to people perceived as idiots/easy marks.
since you have facility with the spanish language, use it to your advantage to feel out any potential situation.
This afternoon I was lucky enough to be free around 4pm, and I decided to visit "La Clinica del Dr Amor" Ave 2N con 23.
I remember having visiting this place several months ago and they had very few available girls at that time.
This time was totally different, they were 14 guys waiting in the major room of the place and I was afraid that it would be like my first visit, but no, definitely no!
First they presented me almost 20 girls, then, as I asked to speak to one of them, I discovered a second and then a third room with guys and girls.
Second, I think that I saw almost 12 or 15 other girls that didn’t present themselves at the first time!
This is really huge! I mean, who else have 30 girls around 4:30 pm?
Quantity is one thing, quality another.
As I like the girls slim, I couldn’t fix my choice on more than 1 girl at the first presentation.
I asked to speak for a minute with her before deciding me and this is when I saw the second and third room.
While I was walking till the fird room with my first choice, I had a vision, a 10! An incredible girl, very fin, very skinny, with a wonderful little ass, small tits, nice face, . A doll!
But I had to speak with (forgot her name), after the normal greetings, I explained her that I hardly feel anything with a condom and asked her if she could do something for me.
She accepted to make a BBBJ but it was obvious that she had a problem with that. Than I asked her if I could make a DATY and she told me that she doesn’t like it. That was the end of it. I said no thanks and walked till the second room.
My 10 was then with a few gringos in the third room, at a moment, she came to the bar in the second room and I asked her if she was free, but no, she was still with the gringos. .
I was almost ready to go to another place when I almost suffered a stoke!
An incredible girl arrived from no where and gave a tour in the first room.
I was desperate and very anxious that someone would pick her before me!
But I was lucky and she came back in the second room but I was not able to speak with her.
I then asked the Mamasan for her and she told me her name was Tatiana.
She called her and we gathered in the third room.
After the preliminaries, I asked if she would do something bareback, she said yes I’ll give you a BBBJ, more than that? No, Anal? , No, DATY? Yes, glad.
I decided to take my chance with her; paid 55 for 60 minutes and we went upstairs. I choose a very luminous room with a window on a patio.
I couldn’t believe that such a girl exist. I have to admit she is my favourite doll, the best I’ve ever seen so far.
Small (5 feet; 1, 5 meters), a very thin belt, a very flat stomach, an enormous pair of (operated) tits, a nice face, a good conversation, . What a girl! I was really amazed.
She told me she is 28 but I gave her 24 or 25 maybe, she is warm, horny, my English is insufficient to explain how I was feeling.
We undressed and she told me that I had it too big.
I know that, and I know that it is the excuse for not having anal, but as she already told me that she would not make it, I said that I have a normal one, that I have seen a lot of naked guy (not stiff though) and that I know I’m normal.
She told me that she, for sure, had seen more than I ever will, and that, for her, I’m definitely in the bigger category, just before monstrous (she has seen 1 in her life, a black guy of course, with more than 12 inches, 30 cm according to her.).
Well, I have to say that I’m lost with that. Almost 90% of the girls tell me the same thing. I was really thinking that it was for not having anal, but once again that was clearly rejected from the beginning.
So before asking to everyone what size he has, let me explain, I have been many many times in naturist camps, when I was young, I practiced athletics and we all had a good shower after, I’ve been to the military service, I’ve seen an incredible number of porno movies, so I know, I’m normal.
What I’d like to know is if they say the same to everybody just to flatter our ego? Or is it that Colombian guys (99% of the customers) have it smaller, like some Asian say they do?
That’s an open question to the community. .
Now back to action.
After that, we went for a (very) quick icy shower.
Tatiana immediately took care of my best friend and I was having an incredible erection, almost painful.
We then dried and went directly to bed where she immediately start a very good BBBJ.
After 2 minutes, I entered in 69 and she just has a delicious pussy.
We remained that way probably 10 more minutes and I put her on her back and went for a very strong DATY. She reacts very well, moved a lot, moan even more, and after a while she reached a very strong climax (was it real? ) trying to escape from my tongue licking her clit as crazy.
She was very warm and horny and decided to go back on my best friend for a crazy BBBJ. As she was eally sucking hard, I took her second hand and put it at the entrance of my rear door. She asked me if I’d like her to do something, Well OF COURSE!
She took a condom and kept sucking while she entered gently in my ass.
Boys, I know some guys think that this is a gay practice, but not for me!
I just love girls and feel no attraction for guys, but this ass of mine likes to be visited by a thin finger while my best friend is very well blown.
Of course, I couldn’t resist long and I came very strongly putting my milk every where.
Tatiana was very proud of her performance and she kissed me every where telling me very kind words of affection.
After that we start to speak a little bit about our lives.
She was working as a dancer (no sex) in a night club in Dominican Republic, but, according to her, the new president ordered that every night club should be closed around 11pm. That was the end of her business.
She came back to Cali and work there, in the Dr Love’s clinic.
She is planning to go to Spain (Canary Island) in 2008 and will soon present her papers to ask for a visa.
She has a deer friend of Canada who is asking her to come there and to go back to school to get a degree, but she thinks that Canada is too cold (she can’t stand the Bogota’s weather.) and that she is too old to go back to school.
Poor girl, I have to admit that she is right; it would be very difficult for her especially because the Colombians ordinaries schools have a very low level of education. We then discussed a lot of other issues and suddenly the phone rang and it was time to go down.
So we went for a quick shower, but when I saw her so beautiful I don’t know what happened but I went stiff again. I was amazed as I usually need 2 hours before I can be hard again, but I had a very strong climax only 20 or 30 minutes before!
I was desperate, she was already dressed but my best friend didn’t want to stay in my shorts and I didn’t penetrate her before and I wanted to do it so strong. So I told her, come on let’s have an extra 30 minutes.
She phoned downstairs, they came to collect the 40K and we got naked again. She refused totally to let me enter without a condom, so I left her put it. I have to admit that she did it very well with her mouth.
I think that that is the first time someone cover me and I don’t feel the condom. So I entered for a 30 minutes fucky fucky exploring all the classical positions. I was just inexhaustible! If you consider that I’m close from 50, that I do no sport at all (except fucking) I am still amazed by what happened!
I think that even when I was in my 20’s I never had such an appetite, such energy. When the phone rang for the second time, I knew already that I wouldn’t be able to come covered. She left me rubbed my best friend on her lips, but I needed more than that.
So, once again we left the (good) bed and went for a quick shower, but I was still in the same embarrassment: impossible to get my best friend in my shorts.
But that time, I had to do it and forgot about the pain and start to walk in a very strange manner till, at last, I would return to a normal state.
I left you these (bad) pictures as a testimony of that amazing beauty.
If you look carefully to the 5th picture, you’ll see how I was (in a not very sexy clothing) before I decided to go to round 2.
Cheers
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years ago I visited cali and made friends with a taxi driver. He took me to some out of the way places. One of my favorite places I believe was on carretera 15.
There were a bunch of somewhat sleazy bars all grouped together. I couldn't figure it out at first. I never saw any customer leave with a girl and they all just seemed to be drinking and dancing with them.
When I walked in a very cute spinner's eyes lit up and she sat across from me making eye contact. After a few minutes a group of colombian guys came in and grabbed a booth and invited her to sit with them. She looked annoyed and even sad. She kept looking at me and smiling etc.
In the mean time my taxi driver called over her amiga, brenda. Brenda came and sat with us and my taxi driver asked her if she wanted to go out danicng later. She said sure. We made plans to head to Juancito after the bar closed.
As the bar closed and the lights came on, the spinner ran over and started talking to her amiga. her amiga excitedly said we were going dancing. the spinner, Angie looked bummed. I asked if she wanted to join us and she lit up. We all went out to juancito and danced till like 8 am. Angie was falling for me and we headed to a motel afterwards. I went to a room with angie and my taxi guy took brenda etc.
Later on when we were leaving I asked angie how much and she started crying. I was surprised and didn't bring it up again. Now years later having been to ficha bars in the states and other countries I know that for the most part locals go there to drink, dance and flirt and they aren't really p4p in the strictest sense. More of a case by case basis etc.
I seem to dig that atmosphere more than the lineup kiss on cheek pick one out deal with most casas in Cali. I had a blast for a few nights with angie and even kept in touch for a while.
Does anybody know where the heck I was? It was years ago. My spanish was not as good as it is now and I was unfamiliar with Cali. If I ever visit cali again, I'd love to stop back into these bars even for just old times sake.
I think they were on carretera 15 but could be wrong.
i finally found this place after making several circles of the block and attracting the attention of many locals who were probably tempted to leave their comfortable seats in restaurants and beauty shops in the area in order to tell me, "hey gringo, the pussy is over here! " it is a little bit hard to find because calle 23 splits up into 3 or 4 different streets around a plaza where there is a small park. there is a calle 23n, 23b. etc. and it is a real pain in the ass to find this place trying to follow calle 23 from avenida sexta. the easiest way to get here is to walk down avenida 2n coming from the aparahotel del rio which is located at the corner of avenida 2n and calle 21. you can use one of two landmarks to find this casa. if you have been to clinica del amor you would walk past clinica and make a left turn on the next street after clinica. on the corner there is a restaurant called the del rio. you would need to make your turn on that corner which is calle 23an. actually, there was one positive in trying to find this place via calle 23an. i found a citibank location and they have a higher withdrawal limit than the local banks. most locals banks here will only dispense 300, 000 cop at a time but citibank's limit was 600, 000 cop. this saved me having to pay two times the banks fees for the same withdrawal amount. there was no guard outside when i arrived so i entered not really knowing if i had the correct door.
i was in a small lobby/waiting area and saw another door to my left which was half closed. i took a peek in and saw about 12 guys seated on leather couches in another larger room. i told myself, "yup, this is definately the place. " as i entered i was approached by a fat, poofy, fag who asked me if i wanted something to drink. i said no and he told me to have a seat in what was actually the last place to sit available. all of the guys were sitting there looking at each other and waiting (and sweating. it was hot as hell in there. i began to regret not taking mister sweet p up on that drink offer.) none of the guys were talking to each other and i wondered what they were waiting for. the atmosphere was so different from the lobby at clinica because a lot of the guys here seemed nervous. the host/hostess returned and told me that soon the girls would be coming out.
i read in the cali lists that the hottest girls of all of the casas were to be found here. frankly, i would have to disagree but not for the reason that you might think. to be totally honest with you imho i have seen the hottest girls working in casas in cali that i have seen in similar places around the world. most lineups definately have their collection of dogs but the hotties included in most casa stables are so hot that you are amazed that these women are available for a $15-40usd fuck. in this respect i would have to say that the lineup here was average with respect to what i have seen so far in colombia. i saw 6 girls 2 of which were model quality, two highly doables (had the body but just an average face), and 2 losers (one had the face but not the body and the other had neither. she was clearly there to do all of the nasty shit that the other girls would refuse to do. i have to admit that if i were really jonesing for some cola i might have propositioned her because it has been next to impossible to get some ass here.) on a funny note the fat ugly girl actually left the joint right after the lineup. i guess that she knew that she wasn't going to be chosen and wanted to grab an empanada and some salchipapas in between rep002s, fisting sessions, and anal probings.
the winners for me were natalia, a light skinned mestizo spinner with nice real tits and lorena, a dark skinned mulata with the perfect little spinner body. these girls were hot! and i had a hard time deciding. the man/madame, who incidently was probably the only one in the joint willing to give up the cola, returned for my decision before i was really ready but i went on instinct and chose lorena. he sent her out to meet me and discuss our activities for the day. i must say that the setup of this casa is not for the shy monger. the couches are positioned really close together and the guys in the room are sitting quietly and not talking to each other. when a girl comes into the room all eyes and ears are on the two of you and your conversation. if you have a problem telling a strange girl that you want to dress her up in a cheerleeder outfit, pour maple syrup on her, and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] in her mouth in a foreign tongue in front of an audience of a dozen nervous, horny, sweaty latinos this is probably not the place for you.
she came out and i started making small talk but the ambience of that lobby area was just a drag and she looked so good that i finally just came out and asked her what the pricing structure was and what she did for that price. right away she told me no cola. this was a good and bad sign. really, i have resigned myself to going without the cola so i wasn't so disapointed and the fact that she started her objections with the cola proved that she was open to other things. i asked about a bbbj and she said sure, no problem. that was all of the encouragement that i needed as i was already salivating over her hot bod and i agreed to an hour session with her. she disapeared into the back and i was told that a room was being prepared.
the room was not as bad as i expected. there was a small couch and a bed with two endtables. it was small and not immaculate but not filthy. as i entered the madame was spraying some air freshner to drown out the odors of the previous occupants. there was no bathroom in the room which made me glad that i had just showered before coming. lorena came into the room with a towel and some condoms. she seemed cheerful and talkative. we started to exchange the usual small talk and she told me that her real name was erica and she is originally from buenaventura. i was enjoying the conversation but was wondering how we were going to transition from this to the sex. she looked fantastic and i couldn't wait to rip her clothes off. suddenly, in the middle of our conversation she starts taking off her top and then started working on the bra.
i was rubbing her back and stopped her from undressing and started to undress her myself. i removed her top and her perky, brown, natural breasts jiggled free but remained firm and in place. i brushed my hand lightly across them and they were so warm and perfect that i began to wonder if she was legal. i asked her how old that she was and she replied, "21". good enough for me! onward and upward! or should i say inward. i gestured for her to stand up and i began to explore her body with my hands and mouth. i turned her around and started to kiss down her back and gently rub her firm perfectly shaped little brown ass. the color of her skin was medium brown with a reddish tint and was soft and blemish free. i turned her around and started to really go to work on her tits when she stopped me and told me, "i'm nursing. i have a 1 year old baby boy. " she was smiling as she grabbed an erect nipple and squeezed it hard between her thumb and index finger. "see! " she said as a thick, clear fluid oozed out of the nipple. i was a little bit shocked and started laughing in spite of myself. i then collected myself and went back to work covering every inch of her body that i could reach. every once in a while, when suckling her breast, i would feel the moisture in my mouth and taste the sweet taste of her milk. i never knew that human milk was so sweet. i looked up at her and saw nothing but relaxation and pleasure on her face.
i moved up for a kiss and there was no resistance. we started with lfk and then i moved down to her neck and down further to her breasts. when i came back to her sweet, young mouth the kisses became deeper and more exploratory. i decided to stand up with her so that i could hold her while we were kissing and as i stood i realized for the first time how small this girl really was. her body was so proportioned that i didn't notice at first but without her high heels on she was a full head and a half shorter than me. a true spinner! we moved to the bed and resumed where we left off. while my hands rubbed her ass and her back her tongue was moving from my mouth to my neck to my nipples and back again. then her lips lightly trailed southward down my stomach and to my erect cock which was so hard now that it seemed like it was going to lauch itself off of my body.
she gently leaned the shaft towards my body with one hand while moving her head lower so that she could gently lick my balls. i can't accurately describe with words the feeling of lying back and watching as this incredibly beautiful girl flicked her tongue across my scrotum while her perfectly shaped natural breasts rocked silently back and forth in the backdrop. then without direction and at the perfect time she moved the shaft towards her mouth and licked off the drop of precum which capped the tip. she then started to swallow the head of my cock quickly moving her head forward and backwards. her thrusts began to get deeper and deeper until she was taking 3/4 of my cock into her throat on every thrust. her titties started jiggling together as she snapped her neck back and forth without stop. the speed of her thrusts increased and i had to fight the temptation to grab her head and start skull fucking her. it was our first session and i didn't know how she would take it so i took deep breaths and relaxed into a state that you can only reach when you know for sure that the girl you are with knows how to suck cock and is not going to stop until your cum paints her tonsils.
i reached a plateau where waves of pleasure were spreading throughout my body with each deep breath that i took in the foreground of my conciousness while the image of her bent over on all fours like an animal sucking my cock was toiling away in the background. it reminded me of the oil drills that you see on road trips through texas and oklahoma bobbing silently up and down against the flat dry landcape on the horizon. while your mind is awash with memories from the past and dreams for the future the sound of the car slipping along the road is buzzing in your ears and that well keeps on drilling away in the distance and the driving of the car takes care of itself. who knows how long this went on but it seemed like a long time and she never stopped. this chick is a cock sucking demon! all of the sudden i wanted to fuck her and i told her this.
she must have wanted this too because before i even really knew what happened she had put a condom on me and jumped on top in cowgirl and started working that tight ass pussy of hers. she was popping her hips back and forth like she was in a jay-z video and i could feel her hard nipples scrapping across by chest. then she leaned way back towards my feet so that she could rub my cock at a different angle. i felt myself close to popping so i picked her up and rolled her over on her back and started pumping into her in missionary. her pussy was so wet now that i could hear the moisture with every thrust. i grabbed her legs and pushed her small little brown baby feet towards her head and rolled her up onto her shoulders and i let loose with everything that i had fucking her as hard and as fast as i possibly could. sweat started pouring down my chest and my groin was slapped loudly against her ass. i let her heels come to rest on my shoulders and continued pounding her while her titties bounced back and forth across her chest. i felt the end nearing and shrieked as i felt my groin spasming with 8-10 powerful spurts of cum. i kept pumping into her as the pleasure peaked then seemed to plateau and peak again and then slowly rolled away to nothing.
we cleaned up and talked. she told me that her mother was colombian and her father was italian and she was describing to me the dangers of living in buenaventura (drug dealers, paramilitares. etc.). suddenly she said that she wanted to clean herself off and made a move for the shower. i decided to join her. generally i never do this because i think that the idea of showering in a casa is really disgusting and also because casas in cali never have hot water. uncharacteristically, i decided to join her this time and off we went down the hall in our towels to use the shower. i was thinking that we would wash and get ready for round two. when we returned she started putting her clothes on to my dismay. i looked at my watch and she was right it had been an hour and 10 minutes to the second. i thought carefully about whether i should tip or not because she hadn't asked for one but the experience was so great i decided to throw in a 10000 cop tip. we parted with a kiss and i was feeling pretty good as i made it back out to the sidewalk and the blistering heat of cali in the afternoon.
i was planning on hitting olympia to buy some groceries and i decided to check and see how much money i had left. i didn't feel comfortable counting the money out on the street so i briefly ran my hands through my pockets to get a sense of how much might be there. i was suprised by what i felt. my bundle was a little bit lighter than it should have been. i went into the store and found the bathroom and pulled out my wad to count it. the ***** had hit me for 40000 cop and like an idiot i tipped her an extra 10000 cop. so much for me being an experienced monger. i think that i deserve to lose my mongering license making a rookie mistake like that one. everyone knows that you should never go into an apartment with more cash than you are going to spend. i was trying to be lazy and wanted to avoid the trip back to the hotel before going shopping and it cost me 20usd. le di papaya in a big way! what's really fucked up is that i still want to repeat with ***** because she was the best fuck that i have had in this country so far. definately check this place out but watch your back!
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[QUOTE=Prtyr2]years ago I visited cali and made friends with a taxi driver. He took me to some out of the way places. One of my favorite places I believe was on carretera 15.
There were a bunch of somewhat sleazy bars all grouped together. I couldn't figure it out at first. I never saw any customer leave with a girl and they all just seemed to be drinking and dancing with them.
When I walked in a very cute spinner's eyes lit up and she sat across from me making eye contact. After a few minutes a group of colombian guys came in and grabbed a booth and invited her to sit with them. She looked annoyed and even sad. She kept looking at me and smiling etc.
In the mean time my taxi driver called over her amiga, brenda. Brenda came and sat with us and my taxi driver asked her if she wanted to go out danicng later. She said sure. We made plans to head to Juancito after the bar closed.
As the bar closed and the lights came on, the spinner ran over and started talking to her amiga. her amiga excitedly said we were going dancing. the spinner, Angie looked bummed. I asked if she wanted to join us and she lit up. We all went out to juancito and danced till like 8 am. Angie was falling for me and we headed to a motel afterwards. I went to a room with angie and my taxi guy took brenda etc.
Later on when we were leaving I asked angie how much and she started crying. I was surprised and didn't bring it up again. Now years later having been to ficha bars in the states and other countries I know that for the most part locals go there to drink, dance and flirt and they aren't really p4p in the strictest sense. More of a case by case basis etc.
I seem to dig that atmosphere more than the lineup kiss on cheek pick one out deal with most casas in Cali. I had a blast for a few nights with angie and even kept in touch for a while.
Does anybody know where the heck I was? It was years ago. My spanish was not as good as it is now and I was unfamiliar with Cali. If I ever visit cali again, I'd love to stop back into these bars even for just old times sake.
I think they were on carretera 15 but could be wrong.[/QUOTE]Dam your good, bro, it may be Carrera 15 between calle 30 and 34 by the Bomba(Gas station) La floresta
My two cents,
Kukulkan
[QUOTE=Prtyr2]years ago I visited cali and made friends with a taxi driver. He took me to some out of the way places. One of my favorite places I believe was on carretera 15.
There were a bunch of somewhat sleazy bars all grouped together. I couldn't figure it out at first. I never saw any customer leave with a girl and they all just seemed to be drinking and dancing with them.
When I walked in a very cute spinner's eyes lit up and she sat across from me making eye contact. After a few minutes a group of colombian guys came in and grabbed a booth and invited her to sit with them. She looked annoyed and even sad. She kept looking at me and smiling etc.
In the mean time my taxi driver called over her amiga, brenda. Brenda came and sat with us and my taxi driver asked her if she wanted to go out danicng later. She said sure. We made plans to head to Juancito after the bar closed.
As the bar closed and the lights came on, the spinner ran over and started talking to her amiga. her amiga excitedly said we were going dancing. the spinner, Angie looked bummed. I asked if she wanted to join us and she lit up. We all went out to juancito and danced till like 8 am. Angie was falling for me and we headed to a motel afterwards. I went to a room with angie and my taxi guy took brenda etc.
Later on when we were leaving I asked angie how much and she started crying. I was surprised and didn't bring it up again. Now years later having been to ficha bars in the states and other countries I know that for the most part locals go there to drink, dance and flirt and they aren't really p4p in the strictest sense. More of a case by case basis etc.
I seem to dig that atmosphere more than the lineup kiss on cheek pick one out deal with most casas in Cali. I had a blast for a few nights with angie and even kept in touch for a while.
Does anybody know where the heck I was? It was years ago. My spanish was not as good as it is now and I was unfamiliar with Cali. If I ever visit cali again, I'd love to stop back into these bars even for just old times sake.
I think they were on carretera 15 but could be wrong.[/QUOTE]
you were on Carretera 15.
but don't be fooled or deceived. Those places are hooker/hostess places and all have rooms in the back. The girls make their dough by your buying them drinks, lap dances and such, tips and of course by taking you to the rooms in the back (which are expensive!)
few colombians can afford such rooms, and the moneyed crowd doesn't hang out on 15, in fact it can be dangerous for an unaccompanied foreigner. The locals tend to hang out with the girls in the booths and dance with them.
the girl you met may have liked you, but she was still a hooker. (hookers are people too)
but you are completely correct the atmosphere beats the casa setup by a mile, where they quickly shuffle by you, introduce themselves and then you are supposed to "make a choice".
When I return to Cali, I will hang out on 15 a lot more.
Casa at Ave 2AN 24N-61. Nights only.
Av. 2AN 24N-63 9am. 7pm.
La Casita del Rio Arte, Av. 2AN 24N-105. 40K 60 mins. Tel: 660-7481. Open every day 9am. 2am.
Can anyone make sense of these addresses? They are from the Cali casas lists but I have been unable to find an Avenida 2AN anywhere. There is an Avenida 2A and an Avenida 2N but Avenida 2A does not run into calle 24. I looked in the only two logical places that I could think of. I followed calle 24 past the hospital and under the overpass by the bus station but 24 runs out a little bit after 2Bis and there is an apartment building at 2Bis 24N-61. I figured that this couuld not be the place because there is no apartment number mentioned. As 2Bis runs south it actually becomed calle 24 again. I followed it to Avenida 2N and I located the addresses of 2N 24N-61 and 2N 24N-63 but they were both closed during the afternoon. There appeared to be a "legit" nails/massage place on the second floor and chicas were looking down at the street. Is this a front? I hope not because the chicas that I saw looking down were beasts. I followed the same street and the block ran out at about 2N 24N-75. In the next block all of the addresses were 2CN addresses so I was unable to locate La Casita del Rio Arte. I really wanted to find this place because of the hours. Does anyone have some info that can clear this up?
i think i've been with the lorena you are writing about. once you can accept pm's i'll pm you her foto and you can tell me if that is her. i have her email address if you want to give her a hard time about lightening your pockets... assuming of course that it's the same chica.
[quote=big bob 7]i finally found this place after making several circles of the block and attracting the attention of many locals who were probably tempted to leave their comfortable seats in restaurants and beauty shops in the area in order to tell me, "hey gringo, the pussy is over here! " it is a little bit hard to find because calle 23 splits up into 3 or 4 different streets around a plaza where there is a small park. there is a calle 23n, 23b. etc. and it is a real pain in the ass to find this place trying to follow calle 23 from avenida sexta. the easiest way to get here is to walk down avenida 2n coming from the aparahotel del rio which is located at the corner of avenida 2n and calle 21. you can use one of two landmarks to find this casa. if you have been to clinica del amor you would walk past clinica and make a left turn on the next street after clinica. on the corner there is a restaurant called the del rio. you would need to make your turn on that corner which is calle 23an. actually, there was one positive in trying to find this place via calle 23an. i found a citibank location and they have a higher withdrawal limit than the local banks. most locals banks here will only dispense 300, 000 cop at a time but citibank's limit was 600, 000 cop. this saved me having to pay two times the banks fees for the same withdrawal amount. there was no guard outside when i arrived so i entered not really knowing if i had the correct door.
i was in a small lobby/waiting area and saw another door to my left which was half closed. i took a peek in and saw about 12 guys seated on leather couches in another larger room. i told myself, "yup, this is definately the place. " as i entered i was approached by a fat, poofy, fag who asked me if i wanted something to drink. i said no and he told me to have a seat in what was actually the last place to sit available. all of the guys were sitting there looking at each other and waiting (and sweating. it was hot as hell in there. i began to regret not taking mister sweet p up on that drink offer.) none of the guys were talking to each other and i wondered what they were waiting for. the atmosphere was so different from the lobby at clinica because a lot of the guys here seemed nervous. the host/hostess returned and told me that soon the girls would be coming out.
i read in the cali lists that the hottest girls of all of the casas were to be found here. frankly, i would have to disagree but not for the reason that you might think. to be totally honest with you imho i have seen the hottest girls working in casas in cali that i have seen in similar places around the world. most lineups definately have their collection of dogs but the hotties included in most casa stables are so hot that you are amazed that these women are available for a $15-40usd fuck. in this respect i would have to say that the lineup here was average with respect to what i have seen so far in colombia. i saw 6 girls 2 of which were model quality, two highly doables (had the body but just an average face), and 2 losers (one had the face but not the body and the other had neither. she was clearly there to do all of the nasty shit that the other girls would refuse to do. i have to admit that if i were really jonesing for some cola i might have propositioned her because it has been next to impossible to get some ass here.) on a funny note the fat ugly girl actually left the joint right after the lineup. i guess that she knew that she wasn't going to be chosen and wanted to grab an empanada and some salchipapas in between rep002s, fisting sessions, and anal probings.
the winners for me were natalia, a light skinned mestizo spinner with nice real tits and lorena, a dark skinned mulata with the perfect little spinner body. these girls were hot! and i had a hard time deciding. the man/madame, who incidently was probably the only one in the joint willing to give up the cola, returned for my decision before i was really ready but i went on instinct and chose lorena. he sent her out to meet me and discuss our activities for the day. i must say that the setup of this casa is not for the shy monger. the couches are positioned really close together and the guys in the room are sitting quietly and not talking to each other. when a girl comes into the room all eyes and ears are on the two of you and your conversation. if you have a problem telling a strange girl that you want to dress her up in a cheerleeder outfit, pour maple syrup on her, and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] in her mouth in a foreign tongue in front of an audience of a dozen nervous, horny, sweaty latinos this is probably not the place for you.
she came out and i started making small talk but the ambience of that lobby area was just a drag and she looked so good that i finally just came out and asked her what the pricing structure was and what she did for that price. right away she told me no cola. this was a good and bad sign. really, i have resigned myself to going without the cola so i wasn't so disapointed and the fact that she started her objections with the cola proved that she was open to other things. i asked about a bbbj and she said sure, no problem. that was all of the encouragement that i needed as i was already salivating over her hot bod and i agreed to an hour session with her. she disapeared into the back and i was told that a room was being prepared.
the room was not as bad as i expected. there was a small couch and a bed with two endtables. it was small and not immaculate but not filthy. as i entered the madame was spraying some air freshner to drown out the odors of the previous occupants. there was no bathroom in the room which made me glad that i had just showered before coming. lorena came into the room with a towel and some condoms. she seemed cheerful and talkative. we started to exchange the usual small talk and she told me that her real name was erica and she is originally from buenaventura. i was enjoying the conversation but was wondering how we were going to transition from this to the sex. she looked fantastic and i couldn't wait to rip her clothes off. suddenly, in the middle of our conversation she starts taking off her top and then started working on the bra.
i was rubbing her back and stopped her from undressing and started to undress her myself. i removed her top and her perky, brown, natural breasts jiggled free but remained firm and in place. i brushed my hand lightly across them and they were so warm and perfect that i began to wonder if she was legal. i asked her how old that she was and she replied, "21". good enough for me! onward and upward! or should i say inward. i gestured for her to stand up and i began to explore her body with my hands and mouth. i turned her around and started to kiss down her back and gently rub her firm perfectly shaped little brown ass. the color of her skin was medium brown with a reddish tint and was soft and blemish free. i turned her around and started to really go to work on her tits when she stopped me and told me, "i'm nursing. i have a 1 year old baby boy. " she was smiling as she grabbed an erect nipple and squeezed it hard between her thumb and index finger. "see! " she said as a thick, clear fluid oozed out of the nipple. i was a little bit shocked and started laughing in spite of myself. i then collected myself and went back to work covering every inch of her body that i could reach. every once in a while, when suckling her breast, i would feel the moisture in my mouth and taste the sweet taste of her milk. i never knew that human milk was so sweet. i looked up at her and saw nothing but relaxation and pleasure on her face.
i moved up for a kiss and there was no resistance. we started with lfk and then i moved down to her neck and down further to her breasts. when i came back to her sweet, young mouth the kisses became deeper and more exploratory. i decided to stand up with her so that i could hold her while we were kissing and as i stood i realized for the first time how small this girl really was. her body was so proportioned that i didn't notice at first but without her high heels on she was a full head and a half shorter than me. a true spinner! we moved to the bed and resumed where we left off. while my hands rubbed her ass and her back her tongue was moving from my mouth to my neck to my nipples and back again. then her lips lightly trailed southward down my stomach and to my erect cock which was so hard now that it seemed like it was going to lauch itself off of my body.
she gently leaned the shaft towards my body with one hand while moving her head lower so that she could gently lick my balls. i can't accurately describe with words the feeling of lying back and watching as this incredibly beautiful girl flicked her tongue across my scrotum while her perfectly shaped natural breasts rocked silently back and forth in the backdrop. then without direction and at the perfect time she moved the shaft towards her mouth and licked off the drop of precum which capped the tip. she then started to swallow the head of my cock quickly moving her head forward and backwards. her thrusts began to get deeper and deeper until she was taking 3/4 of my cock into her throat on every thrust. her titties started jiggling together as she snapped her neck back and forth without stop. the speed of her thrusts increased and i had to fight the temptation to grab her head and start skull fucking her. it was our first session and i didn't know how she would take it so i took deep breaths and relaxed into a state that you can only reach when you know for sure that the girl you are with knows how to suck cock and is not going to stop until your cum paints her tonsils.
i reached a plateau where waves of pleasure were spreading throughout my body with each deep breath that i took in the foreground of my conciousness while the image of her bent over on all fours like an animal sucking my cock was toiling away in the background. it reminded me of the oil drills that you see on road trips through texas and oklahoma bobbing silently up and down against the flat dry landcape on the horizon. while your mind is awash with memories from the past and dreams for the future the sound of the car slipping along the road is buzzing in your ears and that well keeps on drilling away in the distance and the driving of the car takes care of itself. who knows how long this went on but it seemed like a long time and she never stopped. this chick is a cock sucking demon! all of the sudden i wanted to fuck her and i told her this.
she must have wanted this too because before i even really knew what happened she had put a condom on me and jumped on top in cowgirl and started working that tight ass pussy of hers. she was popping her hips back and forth like she was in a jay-z video and i could feel her hard nipples scrapping across by chest. then she leaned way back towards my feet so that she could rub my cock at a different angle. i felt myself close to popping so i picked her up and rolled her over on her back and started pumping into her in missionary. her pussy was so wet now that i could hear the moisture with every thrust. i grabbed her legs and pushed her small little brown baby feet towards her head and rolled her up onto her shoulders and i let loose with everything that i had fucking her as hard and as fast as i possibly could. sweat started pouring down my chest and my groin was slapped loudly against her ass. i let her heels come to rest on my shoulders and continued pounding her while her titties bounced back and forth across her chest. i felt the end nearing and shrieked as i felt my groin spasming with 8-10 powerful spurts of cum. i kept pumping into her as the pleasure peaked then seemed to plateau and peak again and then slowly rolled away to nothing.
we cleaned up and talked. she told me that her mother was colombian and her father was italian and she was describing to me the dangers of living in buenaventura (drug dealers, paramilitares. etc.). suddenly she said that she wanted to clean herself off and made a move for the shower. i decided to join her. generally i never do this because i think that the idea of showering in a casa is really disgusting and also because casas in cali never have hot water. uncharacteristically, i decided to join her this time and off we went down the hall in our towels to use the shower. i was thinking that we would wash and get ready for round two. when we returned she started putting her clothes on to my dismay. i looked at my watch and she was right it had been an hour and 10 minutes to the second. i thought carefully about whether i should tip or not because she hadn't asked for one but the experience was so great i decided to throw in a 10000 cop tip. we parted with a kiss and i was feeling pretty good as i made it back out to the sidewalk and the blistering heat of cali in the afternoon.
i was planning on hitting olympia to buy some groceries and i decided to check and see how much money i had left. i didn't feel comfortable counting the money out on the street so i briefly ran my hands through my pockets to get a sense of how much might be there. i was suprised by what i felt. my bundle was a little bit lighter than it should have been. i went into the store and found the bathroom and pulled out my wad to count it. the ***** had hit me for 40000 cop and like an idiot i tipped her an extra 10000 cop. so much for me being an experienced monger. i think that i deserve to lose my mongering license making a rookie mistake like that one. everyone knows that you should never go into an apartment with more cash than you are going to spend. i was trying to be lazy and wanted to avoid the trip back to the hotel before going shopping and it cost me 20usd. le di papaya in a big way! what's really fucked up is that i still want to repeat with ***** because she was the best fuck that i have had in this country so far. definately check this place out but watch your back!
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Well I've been quite busy in Cali. The truth is I haven't had time for a run at the casas, been too busy with a few regular chicas I met, my favorite being my little morenita ... "mi chocolate" ... what a great chica!
Truth is, I found it doesn't matter how many gringos visit Cali, Medellin, etc, the vast majority are non-spanish speaking puta hunters, which is fine, but if you are a cool guy with spanish skills, you will win over many chicas and the GFE will be the norm.
Here's a couple very cropped fotos, can't show more ... don't want to get myself in trouble :)
Suerte hombres!
[QUOTE=Winner71]I think I've been with the Lorena you are writing about. Once you can accept pm's I'll pm you her foto and you can tell me if that is her. I have her email address if you want to give her a hard time about lightening your pockets... assuming of course that it's the same chica.[/QUOTE]The truth is that I have already repeated with her. What can I say. The chick can really blow! I went to Clinica yesterday and the lineup at about 130PM was hideous. Everybody had beat me there and were on their Friday afternoon lunch breaks banging the hottest chicas. I saw some old hags at Clinica yesterday that they must usually keep tied up in the back by the barn. I went in search of the other casas in the lists section but couldn't find them. Reluctantly, I beat a path back to Lorena's casa. I saw all of the chicas in the house this time because for some reason there were no guys there at all. There are two more hotties in that casa that I was thinking of test driving but Lorena came out last and she was looking really good. I decided to let bygones be bygones and spent the next half of an hour shoving my cock down her throat. She let me cum in her mouth this time and after sucking out the last few drops with a smile she let the cum slowly dribble down onto her tits and the bed. There is something about a good BBBJCIM that brings out the forgiveness in my heart. I will be seeing her again.
[quote=big bob 7]
calle 23an 2n - 95 - casa report
i finally found this place after making several circles of the block
i was in a small lobby/waiting area and saw another door to my left which was half closed. i took a peek in and saw about 12 guys seated on leather couches in another larger room. i told myself, "yup, this is definately the place. " as i entered i was approached by a fat, poofy, fag who asked me if i wanted something to drink.[/quote]
big bob 7,
the "poofy fag" is actually a real nice guy and my buddy. his name is burbujas (bubbles). also the name of the place is "ropa de bebe" (baby's clothes). one thing that should be noted is that the nicer girls start their shifts after 1pm. the other clients may have been waiting for their favorites to finish up.
burbujas will find what you are looking for as well. tell him what you want because he has many girls numbers in his cell on standby.
last time in cali i had a few of the good picks by showing up at 12:45pm and waiting for hotties to show up. this is one of them although i did have some much cuter but they didn't want any pictures taken. i'm bad with names but i think her name is estafani. great bbbj and a sexual animal!
cheers,
cubanut
I've been thinking about trying colombia for awhile and Ive narrowed it down to cali. I think cali would be cheaper than medellin and more sleazy. Would this be correct ?
My concern is the type of service I would be getting. At this point in the game I need BBBJ DATY and ball washing to get off. I have had experiences before with colombian women in ecuador and costa rica and they were all pros and quite agressive. Ive been told colombian women on their own turf are different.
Can you do anything else intresting in cali ? I like to stay away for a month at a time.
Is there any concern for altitude sickness in cali ?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Artisttyp]I've been thinking about trying colombia for awhile and Ive narrowed it down to cali. I think cali would be cheaper than medellin and more sleazy. Would this be correct?
My concern is the type of service I would be getting. At this point in the game I need BBBJ DATY and ball washing to get off. I have had experiences before with colombian women in ecuador and costa rica and they were all pros and quite agressive. Ive been told colombian women on their own turf are different.
Can you do anything else intresting in cali ? I like to stay away for a month at a time.
Is there any concern for altitude sickness in Cali?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Go to Costa Rica.
I don't think you will find a noticeable difference in cost between Cali and Medellin. In fact, strip clubs seem cheaper in Medellin. The women from Cali are generally more sleazy than the women from Medellin, but I would say the sex scene is more sleazy in Medellin. This is due to a much more active street sex scene in Medellin and a higher number of mid and low-end strip clubs.
I've never heard of altitude sickness being an issue in Cali. As far as interesting things to do in Cali, I'm drawing a blank. Cali is very boring to me outisde the mongering scene.
[QUOTE=Kdog] As far as interesting things to do in Cali, I'm drawing a blank. Cali is very boring to me outisde the mongering scene.[/QUOTE]
Cali does have a few touristy things to do.
There is the Tres Cruces mountain that you can visit. There is the Loma de al Cruz artisan area where you can be a variety of arts and crafts. There is thr Plaza dos Toros which has sporting events. There is family oriented fair south of the city on haciendas offering playgrounds, live music, and food on week-ends. There is also a very popular water park north of the city. I think it is a 45 minute bus ride.
However, compared to Cartagena or Santa Marta, Cali is NOT a tourist mecca.
You might want to try San Siprano and Lago Calima while your in Cali. These toursitic things arent in Cali however are 1 - 2 Hr drive.
San Siprano
San Cipriano is a tiny, almost inaccessible village that sits on a stunningly clear river that flows through the same dense jungle of the famed Darien Gap.
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Lago Calima
Artifical Lake Resort
Jet skis, Hotels,Im not sure what town this is in however the whole town is built atround the tourists. I went there for the weekend once had a great time.
Many girls would jump at the chance to accompany you just to get away from the day to day BS in Cali.
[QUOTE=Luis The Great]You might want to try San Siprano and Lago Calima while your in Cali. These toursitic things arent in Cali however are 1 - 2 Hr drive.
San Siprano
San Cipriano is a tiny, almost inaccessible village that sits on a stunningly clear river that flows through the same dense jungle of the famed Darien Gap.
[url]http://jameswrichards.********.com/2006/03/three-years-and-one-day.html[/url]
Lago Calima
Artifical Lake Resort
Jet skis, Hotels,Im not sure what town this is in however the whole town is built atround the tourists. I went there for the weekend once had a great time.
Many girls would jump at the chance to accompany you just to get away from the day to day BS in Cali.[/QUOTE]Just one coment: San Cipriano still FARC and Paramilitares territory
Lago Calima is a good spot, to take your novia, or like Luis said: Many girls would jump at the chance to accompany you just to get away from the day to day BS in Cali
My two cents
Kukulkan
I'm remembering a few options now. Kilometer 18 is a nice place to visit if you want to get away from the heat in Cali. It's just outside Cali up in the mountains. You'll find good food from vendors/restaurants, the scenery is great if you like mountains, and the temp is about 10 degrees cooler. Just tell the taxi driver Kilometer 18 and they'll know what you mean.
There's the famous Chipchape mall and I also like Jardin Plaza (in the South of Cali), Cosmo Centro (good place for watching/picking-up women), and Palmetto Mall (free wireless internet in food court).
Horseback riding is very common and cheap around Cali.
If you like eating Cholados and would like to visit a nearby city, try Jamundi (where there is a lot of horseback riding too). It's about 30 minutes from the center of Cali.
If your considering investing in Colombia, you can kill time and maybe find a good investment by touring some of the many new condos and houses they are building (mostly in the South of Cali).
Ok, most of these things are pretty boring, but that's all I've come-up with on my visits to Cali. At least the nights are fun.
[QUOTE=Kdog]I'm remembering a few options now. Kilometer 18 is a nice place to visit if you want to get away from the heat in Cali. It's just outside Cali up in the mountains. You'll find good food from vendors/restaurants, the scenery is great if you like mountains, and the temp is about 10 degrees cooler. Just tell the taxi driver Kilometer 18 and they'll know what you mean.
There's the famous Chipchape mall and I also like Jardin Plaza (in the South of Cali), Cosmo Centro (good place for watching/picking-up women), and Palmetto Mall (free wireless internet in food court).
Horseback riding is very common and cheap around Cali.
If you like eating Cholados and would like to visit a nearby city, try Jamundi (where there is a lot of horseback riding too). It's about 30 minutes from the center of Cali.
If your considering investing in Colombia, you can kill time and maybe find a good investment by touring some of the many new condos and houses they are building (mostly in the South of Cali).
Ok, most of these things are pretty boring, but that's all I've come-up with on my visits to Cali. At least the nights are fun.[/QUOTE]Talking abouth Cholados K Dog The best one's are at the Picinas Panamericanas.
Kukulkan
Col Bog 1,
Damn that Tatiana girl is amazing! Get score!
You have any more photos of her?
If so, post some more!
Cheers!
Thanks for the reply! I only went to one place on carretera 15 and did not see any back rooms or anybody leaving. I also am used to going to "piano bars" or hostess clubs where the girls are not obligated to have sex with customers, but many will if they dig you. Interesting to find out that they are in fact hookers.
Here in the DR we have the piano bars and there are all different levels of "class" etc. In fact in many of the upscale places, guys with money do go there. I went to one place that is in a poor barrio, and out front were parked Beamers, Jags and mercedes amongst the jeepetas. Typically the waitresses wind up hooking up with a novio after working there a few months. Many of the moneyed go there to look for mistresses or novias.
I am not sure when I will return to cali but I will be there at some point next year. I will definitely hit carretera 15 and I also had luck in the 2 dive strip clubs that were on avenida sexta. Was not big on the casas as the line up and choose method does nothing for me.
Again thanks for letting me know that my long term memory may not be as bad as I thought!
[QUOTE=Catire]you were on Carretera 15.
but don't be fooled or deceived. Those places are hooker/hostess places and all have rooms in the back. The girls make their dough by your buying them drinks, lap dances and such, tips and of course by taking you to the rooms in the back (which are expensive!)
few colombians can afford such rooms, and the moneyed crowd doesn't hang out on 15, in fact it can be dangerous for an unaccompanied foreigner. The locals tend to hang out with the girls in the booths and dance with them.
the girl you met may have liked you, but she was still a hooker. (hookers are people too)
but you are completely correct the atmosphere beats the casa setup by a mile, where they quickly shuffle by you, introduce themselves and then you are supposed to "make a choice".
When I return to Cali, I will hang out on 15 a lot more.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jergens007]Col Bog 1,
Damn that Tatiana girl is amazing! Get score!
You have any more photos of her?
If so, post some more!
Cheers![/QUOTE]
I enjoyed those Tatiana fotos also but truth is Jergens, it's not too tough to score with a casa chica.
You go to the casa, pick a chica out of a lineup and you score.
Pretty easy ... :)
where were the 2 dive strip clubs on sexta? I don't remember seeing any strip joints walking around, but I wasn't really sticking my nose into any and every establishment either.
and I generally do not like strip joints anyways.
[QUOTE=Catire]where were the 2 dive strip clubs on sexta? I don't remember seeing any strip joints walking around, but I wasn't really sticking my nose into any and every establishment either.
and I generally do not like strip joints anyways.[/QUOTE]
Come to think of it, I would like to know as well, Ive never seen any strip clubs on La Sexta, I didnt say anything becasue I thought it was a typo.
It was back in 1999 and not on the main drag of sexta. There were 2 places right next door to each other. One was called Latin ladys I believe and don't remember what the other was called. One of them was on the second floor.
I took one girl out of the second floor club. we went to juancito and danced all night and then to a short term motel. Total GFE and still top 5 as far as sex in my entire life. I ordered 2 taxis and as I was getting in mine and pulling out of the motel parking lot. . . .I could see she was crying. . . .which was weird. We had a major league connection. Usually I have to know someone very well for the sex to be that good. It was like we had been lovers for years.
[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver]Come to think of it, I would like to know as well, Ive never seen any strip clubs on La Sexta, I didnt say anything becasue I thought it was a typo.[/QUOTE]
Hi Ricker,
This might be a dumb question.
What is a casa chica? LOL. Is casa a brothel?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Ricker], it's not too tough to score with a casa chica.
You go to the casa, pick a chica out of a lineup and you score.
Pretty easy ... :)[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Jergens007]Hi Ricker,
This might be a dumb question.
What is a casa chica? LOL. Is casa a brothel?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Hey amigo ... a casa chica is basically a girl that works in one of the massage / sex houses.
I'm sure you know that "casa" means "house".
Good luck!