Berlin

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]FKK Artemis
Halenseestr. 32-35
Berlin, Charlottenburg
[url]http://www.fkk-artemis.de/[/url]

First of all I have never been to Artemis. There is a whole thread dedicated to this club in the FKK section of the forum. So for info on how it works, prices, girls and what to expect I recommend you go there. I will just give my general thoughts.

Artemis is by all accounts a very nice place. The entrance fee though is high (70€) so you really have to make a whole day or night of it to make this worth it. In other words, once yo pay the cover you really need to be able to take minimum of two girls to a private room (IMO) if not more. One recent account in the Artemis thread described a member who went with 7!! girls during his one visit. 7!!!!

Now does it need to be said that old Angus, who is approaching a half century, would not be able to get it up 7 times and pop without the aid of some serious drugs. And personally I am not really into recreational use of viagra or any of the other performance enhancing drugs out there today. So if I ever do make it to Artemis I think I will have to go into training for a month or so before and completely abstain from any other activities.

Anyway-I do plan on going there one day, I am just not sure when. Maybe a 50th birthday present to myself when I reach that milestone.[/QUOTE]I can see your point Angus, I'm in my late 40s too. But since I've never been to a FKK club, I figure I'll try Artemis on my last evening there just to see what all the hoopla is all about. I figure it's worth one visit at least. I'll be happy to do two girls. I'm not going to stress myself out and get four or six girls just to bring the overall price per girl down.

With a combo of one FKK club and 1-2 visits to another bordello, it will give me a nice overview of Berlin.

A few weeks ago I followed Angus' recomendation for the Hautnah agency with considerable success and I reported here my spin with Mikaela.

Having read through his extensive report on Bordelles yesterday, I decided to follow his advice again, and I selected 3 places to try - Monrouge, Liberty's and Salon Prestige. Monrouge got the vote of the 3 largely due to its proximity to my hotel and I went there this afternoon. I also liked the idea that the giorls are largely foreign - although my German is passable, I always feel more comfortable when I am dealing with foreign girls who hold no advantage over me in the language stakes.

The girl who let me in to the flat was pleasant enough and asked me if I had a preferred girl. I gave her a trio of names, but finally she took me to a room and sent in the parade, which constituted a meagre two persons. The first was a generic East European girl whose name I didn't catch - the 2nd was one from my shortlist being Jasmin. She is a dark-skinned girl from Dominican Republis with a full figure (not fat0 and a terrific pair of large natural breasts, an asset that in my book will forgive a multitude of sins. I chose her.

She was friendly from the start and I realised quickly that this was going to be a good outing. The charge was 70 Euro for a half-hour or 130 for 60 mins. The extras were expensive - 20 for FO or 50 for FT. I don't like to haggle on these occasions - a 10% discount in price usually leads to a greater reduction in service in my experience, so I handed over my 120E with a smile.

I took a quick shower, which I reckon to be a vote-winner with m,ost girls, and settled back with Jasmin in the room. She gave me a real nice BBJ, intermingled with occasional passionate kisses. I don't usually like to kiss these girls, especially the ones who do BBJ's, but she was too persuasive to turn down. After about 15 minutes she started to get tired, so I wanked off whilst she cuddled up and rubbed her pussy against me. When she saw I was ready to come she jumped back down on my knob and finished off the job in her mouth.

I reckon that this girl would be up for most services if she liked the guy - she certainly gave me the impression that most things were on the menu. I was very happpy with my visit - this is a personable girl with a right good attitude that I woulld happily see again. I found her to be very attractive, cos I really like the fuller figure (I stress, not a fatty), but those who prefer slim model girls might not be as taken by her body as I was.

I would summarise as follows:

Bordelle - Poor choice of girls but satisfactory facilities and clean - 6/10
Jasmin looks - very much my style of figure, but probably not to everyone's taste - 7/10
Jasmin service - a pleasant and friendly girl who made me feel perfectly comfortable - 8/10
Value for money - probably expensive by comparison, but cost is a minor issue for me in these matters - 4/10

I am back at the hotel in recovery mode - later tonight I am going to try one of the other two place - I'll keep you informed as to my progress

Charlie

Had a session (1/2hr-80€) with a new girl at KD yesterday evening. Well, in fact she has been there two months (before KD she was at Liberty) but her pictures were posted this week on the website and I could not resist.

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/joyce-e.htm[/url]

As seen in the picture she is a lovely girl and in person she did not disappoint me. Joyce is fairly tall (172cm) and with heels she has a striking presence. She is also has an appealing wide, well shaped bum, broad hips and flat stomach. Just the shape I love. Her breasts are smallish ('A's?) but in this reviewers opinion they are just perfect-no sag at all and perky mid sized nipples. Only trouble being that she herself does not like them (too small) and is considering augmentation. I told her in no uncertain terms what I thought of this idea. No way!

She also, as you can see from the pictures, has a bit of body art-tattoos. Now some seem to have a strong dislike of tattoos but I find that they are rarely too distracting for me. And, as in this case, the girl is often very proud of them and like showing them off. So I always comment and ask her for a display. It is, I find, a good way to get the girl in the mood to be a bit of an exhibitionist which I love. So first we spent a bit of time with Joyce posing and me enjoying the various curves and crevices of her body.

The session itself was nice without being mind blowing in anyway. I found her bit reserved and slightly restrictive. She was open to daty (first thing I did was bend her over on the bed and lick her from behind) but subtly moved away when I tried to sample her ass, which I dearly wanted to bury my tongue in... She also moved away when I tried to introduce my fingers inside her pussy-kein Finger-oh well:-(

She also has a hood piercing on her pussy. I am not against these but find them a bit better to look at that I do to actually lick. Sort of distracting IMO. I am not sure how the girl experiences oral with a hood piercing but I find it sort of difficult to really get at the clit. Though I do hear that it increases their pleasure over all. In any case I found her not overly responsive to my activities down there (ego not happy with this) but was more than happy for me to lick all I wanted.

Her bj skills were good but nothing special and as always at KD were covered. And when ready I had her present her bum to me doggy and took her enthusiastically from behind. This was the one time in the session that she really seemed to come alive, thrusting back on little Angus and asking for slight position changes (legs closed, legs open) from time to time.

As always at KD, when finished I was in no way rushed and in fact we had a nice chat for ten or so minutes and thus went a little over time-perhaps 5-10 minutes. Now a little rant here if you will allow.

The girls often, for some reason, will open up to me in a surprising way and to a surprising degree. In our 10 minute chat Joyce told me some very personal details about her private life-which of course I will not share here. However I do want to ask (not really looking for an answer but if you have an ideas...) why is it that lovely young girls such as this girl will so often pick complete assholes as boyfriends? It stuns me sometimes the stuff that they will put up with...

Over all it was a good session for me, mostly because I found Joyce to be so physically pleasing. Would I repeat? Probably not but just because there are plenty of other ladies that I would like to session with both at KD and else where. I was very satisfied upon leaving savoring and enjoying, as I often do, the occasional scent of her pussy that lingered on my lips and the area just under my nose for the rest of the evening.

Hi all!

I'm new here, and new to this fantastic world.

I have only been with 3 (pay 4 play) grils. All in Berlin during the WC of football. My first gave me a BJ in a park for 50€, the other 2 in Artemis. The BJ in the park was a bad start in my new career haha. The next day I went to Artemis. Oh man, this was paradise =)

Now I'm goung back in late September, and when I google "Berlin Escort" this came up: [url]http://www.escortdesire. De/[/url]

I have serched this site, but didn't find anyone that made a report.

If the girls are real, I gladly pay 200€

These two got my attention:
Jenna [url]http://www.escortdesire.de/foto-berlin/jennaphoto.htm[/url]
Eliana [url]http://www.escortdesire.de/foto-hamburg/eliana-hostess-foto.htm[/url]

Hello Angus,

You compiled an impressive list here! I do not know much of the places, but I slightly disagree with your opinion about 'Sex in the citi '/Grunewald 17

"Never been and even though it is in a nice area, the place looks pretty sleazy. I would approach with caution and not expect too much here. "

I think, the stairs are not much worse than other houses, but the place itself is very clean and tidy. More like a well managed massage place.

I met there 2 month ago Mercedes, which was a pleasant experience. A nice, friendly, slim Berlin working girl with a big set of boobs. Opposite the entry is the office of a plastic surgery (I think), so you can imagine, where the hard earned cash is spent.

However, all the usual "normal" services were on offer, with a lot of teasing and vocal stimulation. Its fun to talk with her. Beside other things. At one point in that hour she sent me back in the shower to cool down for round 2. With a small extension at the end of the session.

All together a little bit expensive, so that I did not return the next day, but will probably next month.

So in my opinion not "sleazy" and not more "caution" then usual necessary

Regards,

Piefke

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[QUOTE=Kid Icarus]Hi all!

I'm new here, and new to this fantastic world.

I have only been with 3 (pay 4 play) grils. All in Berlin during the WC of football. My first gave me a BJ in a park for 50€, the other 2 in Artemis. The BJ in the park was a bad start in my new career haha. The next day I went to Artemis. Oh man, this was paradise =)

Now I'm goung back in late September, and when I google "Berlin Escort" this came up: [url]http://www.escortdesire. De/[/url]

I have serched this site, but didn't find anyone that made a report.

If the girls are real, I gladly pay 200€

These two got my attention:
Jenna [url]http://www.escortdesire.de/foto-berlin/jennaphoto.htm[/url]
Eliana [url]http://www.escortdesire.de/foto-hamburg/eliana-hostess-foto.htm[/url][/QUOTE]


Hummm...have a look down a few posts and you will find a pretty extensive three part report on all I know about the escort/bordello/club scene here in Berlin.

While I do not claim to have the final word by any means (see the report above that corrects my view of an apartment bordello on Grunewaldstr.) I think that you will find some pretty accurate and current information in these posts.

As for the website you found-I am always a bit suspicious about these large, multi-city websites. Is there a central booker for the girls? Are they independent? Looking through the site I found at least one girl whose pictures also appear here on a local agency's web page. For me this is a red flag.

[url]http://www.escortdesire.de/foto-berlin/cameliaphoto-en.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.la-diva-escort.de/girls/nadia/index.html[/url]

So-I certainly can not say that the site you found is a scam but I for one would not use it. I think that the chances of the girl who shows up bein the girl on the pictures is slim. But I could be wrong and if so would love to hear about it.

Now if you have, and don't mind spending, 200€ on an escort in Berlin, I would point you towards Kamila Dee's escort service. KD is a well known, well established bordello with take out service available. Or you can visit them at their Blissestr. location which is very clean and luxurious. See the report below for more details.

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/frames_e.htm[/url]

There are some (IMO) knock out girls working there and they do most definitely have an eye towards customer service and satisfaction.

[QUOTE=Charlie 123]A few weeks ago I followed Angus' recomendation for the Hautnah agency with considerable success and I reported here my spin with Mikaela.

Having read through his extensive report on Bordelles yesterday, I decided to follow his advice again, and I selected 3 places to try - Monrouge, Liberty's and Salon Prestige. Monrouge got the vote of the 3 largely due to its proximity to my hotel and I went there this afternoon. I also liked the idea that the giorls are largely foreign - although my German is passable, I always feel more comfortable when I am dealing with foreign girls who hold no advantage over me in the language stakes.

The girl who let me in to the flat was pleasant enough and asked me if I had a preferred girl. I gave her a trio of names, but finally she took me to a room and sent in the parade, which constituted a meagre two persons. The first was a generic East European girl whose name I didn't catch - the 2nd was one from my shortlist being Jasmin. She is a dark-skinned girl from Dominican Republis with a full figure (not fat0 and a terrific pair of large natural breasts, an asset that in my book will forgive a multitude of sins. I chose her.

She was friendly from the start and I realised quickly that this was going to be a good outing. The charge was 70 Euro for a half-hour or 130 for 60 mins. The extras were expensive - 20 for FO or 50 for FT. I don't like to haggle on these occasions - a 10% discount in price usually leads to a greater reduction in service in my experience, so I handed over my 120E with a smile.

I took a quick shower, which I reckon to be a vote-winner with m,ost girls, and settled back with Jasmin in the room. She gave me a real nice BBJ, intermingled with occasional passionate kisses. I don't usually like to kiss these girls, especially the ones who do BBJ's, but she was too persuasive to turn down. After about 15 minutes she started to get tired, so I wanked off whilst she cuddled up and rubbed her pussy against me. When she saw I was ready to come she jumped back down on my knob and finished off the job in her mouth.

I reckon that this girl would be up for most services if she liked the guy - she certainly gave me the impression that most things were on the menu. I was very happpy with my visit - this is a personable girl with a right good attitude that I woulld happily see again. I found her to be very attractive, cos I really like the fuller figure (I stress, not a fatty), but those who prefer slim model girls might not be as taken by her body as I was.

I would summarise as follows:

Bordelle - Poor choice of girls but satisfactory facilities and clean - 6/10
Jasmin looks - very much my style of figure, but probably not to everyone's taste - 7/10
Jasmin service - a pleasant and friendly girl who made me feel perfectly comfortable - 8/10
Value for money - probably expensive by comparison, but cost is a minor issue for me in these matters - 4/10

I am back at the hotel in recovery mode - later tonight I am going to try one of the other two place - I'll keep you informed as to my progress

Charlie[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the report on Jasmin. Nice to see someone using the info and then giving back to the board with a report.

With Monrouge I find it is a bit spotty with regard to the girls' availability. Sometimes I have gone there in the afternoon and had a parade of 6 girls, sometimes two. I think best is in the early evening, after 6 but before 9. Also, once I have seen the girls in a parade it gives me a good sense of who to call and make a termine with. That way you are sure of getting who you want.

And yes, extras are expensive at MR. I usually settle for covered bj at this place to keep expenses down.

[QUOTE=Piefke]

So in my opinion not "sleazy" and not more "caution" then usual necessary

Regards,

Piefke

[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the report. Good to get some up to date intel.

Yes my opinion was based on assumption I admit it. I still maintain that the entrance looks downright sleazy (right next door to The King George) and also I guess the website I find seriously lacking in good pics and info.

But sometimes in this hobby we find gems in unusual places. That is always a treat. And I find that Berlin native (born & bred) girls are often very good providers for some reason.

BTW-what did you pay for Mercedes and for what services/length of session?

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]BTW-what did you pay for Mercedes and for what services/length of session?[/QUOTE]120E/h,(70E/30min) - got a massage, BJ, sex, everything with protection. I did not ask for more.

A usual Berlin flat with huge sailing, clean, tidy and big bright rooms. A cross and a cage might point to other services. But it could also be just decoration.

They are little bit short-lipped on the phone - but probably they have their customer base. So they also decided not to extend their website, I think.

But just ask them.

As I said, I did not return the other day, but was not disappointed and will be back eventually some day.

Piefke

I like your name, dude!

[i]Bisch du Oesterreicher?[/i]

[QUOTE=Jackyo][i]Bisch du Oesterreicher?[/i][/QUOTE]As a famous non-berlin resident once said:

'Isch bin ain Berliner'

[QUOTE=Piefke]As a famous non-berlin resident once said:

'Isch bin ain Berliner'[/QUOTE]He would said also :

' I am a great fucker : fuck everything with pussy and tits : Holywood actresses, Marylin M. , the mafia (that fuck him) etc ...'

Hope Jakyo, it is not your idol :-)

[QUOTE=Vicifranck]He would said also :

' I am a great fucker : fuck everything with pussy and tits : Holywood actresses, Marylin M. , the mafia (that fuck him) etc ...'

Hope Jakyo, it is not your idol :-)[/QUOTE]
I don't know about Jackyo, but he is certainly my hero.

Strict Catholic upbringing, war hero, rich hot wife, stands up to Kruschev and Castro over the Bay of Pigs, uses some goodfellas to scare off his political enemies, and still with the very puritannical American populace of the early 60's and press watching his every move, he spent his time and considerable resources on getting the hottest women on the planet into the Lincoln Bedroom.

Wonder if Barack can get fitted for JFK's balls. :-)

Okay, I'm in Berlin and got off to a slow start. Flew in on Tuesday night and was too tired to do anything. But staying at the Hotel Konigshof at Stuttgarter Platz 7. More than adequate place with free breakfast, wifi internet and right across from S-Baun.

Five minute walk is a place called Mona which has been reviewed once here which is how I heard about it. It is at Kant 74 but the entrance as mentioned before is on the side and they put up these wooden partitions to the doorway so there is a bit of privacy when ringing in.

I got there about 1 am and the German speaking madam directed me to a room where three girls came in to introduce themselves one by one. I chose the one by the name of Denise on their website. She spoke adequate English too.

Denise took me to another room and left to get her things. Prices offered were 35 euros for 20 minutes and 55 euros for 30 minutes. She mentioned that she does extras but I just wanted a regular session.

She's very friendly and from the south part of Germany. Started with a covered BJ which was okay then asked me what position I like. As left the first choice to her and she took off her high heels (left her stockings on) and climbed on. Then she got tired fast and we switched to doggie. She said that it's called something like 'hinton' in German. Then finished off in mish.

This place uses paper towels to clean off which she did for me. She said that we still had time left over so she offered a back massage while we chatted.

Turns out that she's a up there in age at 49 but she looks great for her age. She's got a body of a 20 year old and looked good from any position.

The rooms were so-so but I wasn't expecting luxury. She said that Club Mona as it's written on the outside, has the best hours since they open until 4 or 5 am. I asked her about daytime hours but she said that it's dead during the day. The only business are regular locals who make appointments.

There were probably about three other guys in the place when I was there so this place probably does decent nighttime biz. For the price, definitely was a worthwhile visit and I'm glad that I sessioned with Denise. Don't let her age prevent you from a session with her since she was worth it.

I'll be visiting Artemis tomorrow night so look for my review at the FKK club section soon.

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Has anyone had experience with escort-in. De? These girls look top notch, but I heard a lot of escort images online are altered way too much. And the original girls are fatter older? If you know of any escort websites that definitely alter images way too much, please reply also for everyone's benefit.

Both these reviews are from a few weeks back. I just have not got around to writing them until recently.

First Anna.
[url]http://www.libertyberlin.de/anna.htm[/url]
Anna’s stated age on the web site is 23. I would ad perhaps a couple of years to this but by no means does this take away from her quality in terms of looks and especially in terms of service. My session with her was excellent. She is open to lots of play and is an enthusiastic participant. No mechanical faking here. She is a small-ish girl, I guess that she would qualify as a spinner. The web pics are accurate and recent and her face (not show) is also pleasing. She has a kind of a “lusty” look of a girl who really enjoys sex. Very high marks and a definite repeat for me some time soon.

Michelle.
[url]http://www.libertyberlin.de/michelle.htm[/url]
No age stated for Michelle but I would say mid to late ‘20’s. But don’t let this stop you as she is an absolute beauty-tall, lean and with a hard body. The service was a bit subdued-especially when compared to Anna-but I was not disappointed. She is open to daty but does not really get into it in a big way. Fingers and ass play are off limits which is a shame as she has a truly spectacular ass that just begs to be tongued.

The best part of the session was the after “pillow talk” when we both seemed to relax a bit and just had some fun joking around and cuddling. I probably will not repeat with her, not because I had a bad time, rather that there are other ladies I would want to try first.

[QUOTE=Vstavlas]Has anyone had experience with escort-in. De? These girls look top notch, but I heard a lot of escort images online are altered way too much. And the original girls are fatter older? If you know of any escort websites that definitely alter images way too much, please reply also for everyone's benefit.[/QUOTE]

Does any one even bother reading the thread? Scroll down a few reports or check the reports of distinction thread. Last week I spent the best part of two days writing a list of escort agencies/clubs/bordellos that contains some of the info you seek.

As to this particular agency-I have no experience with it nor have I come across it on any of the German forums. I think it is quite new and I have seen some of the girls else where. This makes me slightly suspicious.

And if I may ad-your request/demand that anyone knowing of any websites that alter images be posted "for everyone's benefit" comes across as a bit-well-demanding from someone with one post to his name.

Why don't you book a session with escort-in.de and post a report-for everyone's benefit...

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit]

I'll be visiting Artemis tomorrow night so look for my review at the FKK club section soon.

[/QUOTE]


Thanks very much for the report Exoticspirit. It is always good to see a visitor use the forum for info and the contribute new info of his own.

It is greatly appreciated by me.

I look forward to your Artemis report.

ANNA
[url]http://de.geocities.com/mcsecookie/Girls/Anna.html[/url]
Very beautiful lady (I think the first image is more accurate) from Litauen.. Perfect body, a lot of kisses, a lot of smiles and a perfect deepthroat ending to a perfect cim. I felt that I was with my girlfriend.

Only incall 1/2 hour 55 Euro 1 hour 110 Euro.

She speaks bad English and to close a meeting is a little bit difficult so to use some german words is the best way.

German forums say that she makes the best oral in Berlin.

I loved this woman.

JELENA
[url]http://www.my-pussycat.de/index.php[/url]
Strange girl from Russia if I remember well. 1 hour to my hotel 120 Euro. No kisses no cim (as her web-page mention). But perfect oral (for sure she likes that). Sex in many possisions and in-between oral sex. She always put out the condom so I always asked her if she wants cim and she always said no. Close to the end we search for condoms! She had the most loud orgasm I heard and she thanks me for that. Maybe chemistry did not work between us but for sure I recommend this girl.
From forums
[url]http://www.erotikforum.at/forum/jelena-starescort-de-t54322.html[/url]
[url]http://www.ich-steh-auf-sex.de/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=335[/url]


TRIXY
[url]http://www.ritter11.de/pics/start_up/trixy.html[/url]
Very beautiful tall frienly german girl. 30 min 90 Euro plus 10 E for kisses plus 20 E for acrobat possision. A bit professional.
Good session for sure but not excellent.

German forums have good reviews for the these girls but I do not have personal opinion:
Sexy Rita ([url]http://www.sexyrita.de/index2.html[/url] [url]http://www.verkehrsberichte.com/kontaktmarkt/berlin/rita/index.html[/url])
Miki ([url]http://www.bitchclub-berlin.de.vu/[/url] [url]http://www.hautnah-in-berlin.de/ClMi.htm[/url])
Maria-Brasil ([url]http://www.maria-brasil.de/maria.html[/url] [url]http://brasil.lustgarten.de/girl.php?girl=maria[/url]
[url]http://www.omello.de/modelle/berlin-moabit-maria-brasil.php[/url]
From forums
[url]http://www.ich-steh-auf-sex.de/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=469[/url]
[url]http://www.ich-steh-auf-sex.de/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=50&st=0&sk=t&sd=a[/url]
[url]http://www.ich-steh-auf-sex.de/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=907[/url]
[url]http://www.rotlicht-modelle.de/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2655&[/url]

Listen Guys I was scammed at Van Kampen Today. Now I can see that "attitude problem" that some have reported on their experiences at VK on this forum and the importance of reading reports before venturing into unkown territory.

I chose a new cute skinny girl called Nikita (German). She kept on adding extras over the regular fee of 80 euros and then less than 15 minutes into the 30 minute session, she told me that I was too big, and that she was tired and that she can only finish me by hand, irrespective of the deal we had.

I politely refused a few times, she nervously left the room, brought in the manager and another WG that spoke english and I was politely told, either to end the session with a hand job with Nikita, pay for another session with another girl, or leave. All attempts at having a refund or continuing the session as previously agreed was refused.

Turned off, I left for another experience elsewhere. I fly back home after in less than a week, dunno if calling the police will help in these situations, but I doubt it.

I know YMMV at VK but this is just the problem that I would like to avoid.

[QUOTE=Sex Quest]Listen Guys I was scammed at Van Kampen Today. Now I can see that "attitude problem" that some have reported on their experiences at VK on this forum and the importance of reading reports before venturing into unkown territory.

I chose a new cute skinny girl called Nikita (German). She kept on adding extras over the regular fee of 80 euros and then less than 15 minutes into the 30 minute session, she told me that I was too big, and that she was tired and that she can only finish me by hand, irrespective of the deal we had.

I politely refused a few times, she nervously left the room, brought in the manager and another WG that spoke english and I was politely told, either to end the session with a hand job with Nikita, pay for another session with another girl, or leave. All attempts at having a refund or continuing the session as previously agreed was refused.

Turned off, I left for another experience elsewhere. I fly back home after in less than a week, dunno if calling the police will help in these situations, but I doubt it.

I know YMMV at VK but this is just the problem that I would like to avoid.[/QUOTE]

Sorry to hear that you got scamed at VK. But in a way it does not surprise me. I have been unimpressed by how I was treated at VK for some time now. I do not think that they care much for the tourist/non German speaking trade at this establishment. The very least they could have done is to give you back the cash for the unperformed "extras" IMO-and their portion of the fee. But I guess they don't care about repeat business from "auslanders".

I would say though that there is not much to do now except what you have done i.e. write a report here and let us know. And of course do not return to said establishment in the future.

If you are ever back this way drop me a line and I will point you towards some girls in other bordellos who provide good service.

Sternchen LAST WEEK. NO GOOD!

I quite liked the look of their website and previous reports on this forum were not unpromising, so I took myself off to the East side last week for a session.

Never again!

The building is in a grubby street, with a burned out car outside the front door. The entrance is grimy, with no proper signage or doorbell. I had already blown out at a couple of other places earleir in the afternoon, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered to go in. The entrance foyer of the appartment was milling with people, a few of the girls and a couple of blokes who probably work there. Not at all discreet. I had called in advance to establish that a certain girl was on duty that afternoon. Christina, and was assured that she was.

The Hausmutti showed me into one of their rooms, an unattractively furnished and somewhat dingy room that was a clear step down from the Charlottenberg appartments that I have become accustomed to. 3 girls appeared. All viciously ugly. Nevertheless, I chose the one who called herself Christina, although she bore no resemblance to the girl of that name on the website. She was a dumpy thing in a basque, big tits but a sullen round face and unfriendly demeanour. She quoted 50E for a basic session of 1/2 hour. When I enquired as to extras such as FO (specifically offered on the webpage), she said she didn't do that. That was enough for me. I left promptly and went back to Monrouge for another session with the delectable Jasmin.

I felt like I was back in the UK in some filthy crack-***** den up north. In short, there is no reason for anyone to waste their money at Sternchen when there are so many better clubs in town. Even if I just caught them on a bad day, I would never again bother to traipse across town on the off chance that they have cleaned up their act. I suggest that you don't either.

Cheers

Charlie

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A number of places offer 'Duette' or 'Lesbische Duette'.

Does anybody have any experience?

This term encompasses a range of possibilities to my mind:

1) Do the girls fully make out - cunni etc, or does one spend 30 minutes sitting in one's socks and pants watching a couple of bints petting and faking sex?

2) Is it part of the service (and included in the price) that the punter gets to enjoy the girls during/after the scene, or is this supposed to be a visual experience only?

3) My German is adequate+, but I don't know the trade venacular for a full 3-person sex scene - does anybody know the correct terminology (assuming that 'duette' doesn't cover it)

4) I know that The Hautnah girls can be booked as pairs, but they don't really do the lezzie stuff, it's more of a 2-on-1 scene (and they're on holiday now anyway). Has anyone here got any specific recent 'duettes' to report/recommend?

Thx

Charlie

I also went to Liberty's last week and found it to be a good place with a nice line-up. I was offered a few girls, perhaps 5, and chose Denise

[url]http://www.libertyberlin.de/denise2.htm[/url]

She is a pretty girl with a real good figure - nice large tits and a firm body. She speaks with a slight lisp, but not so as to put one off the business at hand. Her English is respectable, but my German is better, so we spoke in German. I selected 40 minutes and FT (BBBJcim) - I can't remember the price but it was about 130E from memory.

Anyway, turns out she doesn't really do FO after all - her idea of a blow job seems to be a hand-job executed in the vicinity of her mouth with the occasional flick of her tongue. I found this to be a real turn-off and quickly started to lose my stiffy. We tried straight-sex, but by now I had lost my enthusiasm and my erection, so I just quit.

She is friendly enough and probably a nice fuck, but this is not a girl to choose if you are into 'extras'.

I would go to Liberty's again, I'm sure, but next time I'll make sure to choose a dirtier girl - this one wasn't for me at all

Cheers,

Charlie

[QUOTE=Charlie 123]Anyway, turns out she doesn't really do FO after all - her idea of a blow job seems to be a hand-job executed in the vicinity of her mouth with the occasional flick of her tongue. I found this to be a real turn-off and quickly started to lose my stiffy. We tried straight-sex, but by now I had lost my enthusiasm and my erection, so I just quit.[/QUOTE]
... is [i]Fransoezisch Ohne mit Handeinsatz[/i].

Did you ask her to stop the [i]Handeinsatz[/i] part? Some women will accept suggestions. Some of them won't.

[QUOTE=Charlie 123]A number of places offer 'Duette' or 'Lesbische Duette'.

Does anybody have any experience?

This term encompasses a range of possibilities to my mind:

1) Do the girls fully make out - cunni etc, or does one spend 30 minutes sitting in one's socks and pants watching a couple of bints petting and faking sex?

2) Is it part of the service (and included in the price) that the punter gets to enjoy the girls during/after the scene, or is this supposed to be a visual experience only?

3) My German is adequate+, but I don't know the trade venacular for a full 3-person sex scene - does anybody know the correct terminology (assuming that 'duette' doesn't cover it)

4) I know that The Hautnah girls can be booked as pairs, but they don't really do the lezzie stuff, it's more of a 2-on-1 scene (and they're on holiday now anyway). Has anyone here got any specific recent 'duettes' to report/recommend?

Thx

Charlie[/QUOTE]

Hi,

Sorry, no direct experience with duos here in Berlin so all I can do is answer in general terms.

Duos are probably one of the greatest fantasies and often, when realized, the greatest disappointments. I have experienced several over the years and only one stands out. That was with two university students who were offering the service to supplement income out of their dorm room. They were in fact lovers but were bi (well-one was more bi than the other actually) and it was fantastic.

Now a days, as my fantasy has been realized, I would not look for this service. Though if the right opportunity came along...

I would say that unless you have specific fore knowledge that the girls will be interactive with you and with each other it is pretty much a crap shoot as to whether things will go the way you want them to.

My feeling is, if you really want to experience this, that you should call Kamila Dee's and speak with the Hausmutti about what it is exactly that you want and and if they have a pair of girls that can satisfy your needs. I am sure that you can find someone there that speaks English well enough to get what you want across.

But it will cost you I am sure.

I know that there is a very tasty duo team at KD's (Nicole& Mia) but I have no knowledge about what is exactly that they do or how is the service. Unfortunately they do not work regularly (which can be a good sign IME) or often.

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/frames_e.htm[/url]

If you do see them please, please do write a report.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Hi,

Duos are probably one of the greatest fantasies and often, when realized, the greatest disappointments. I have experienced several over the years and only one stands out. That was with two university students who were offering the service to supplement income out of their dorm room. They were in fact lovers but were bi (well-one was more bi than the other actually) and it was fantastic.[/QUOTE]I am also thinking about whether I should pursue this fantasy. I haven't yet. My first impression is that it would be kind of confusing more than anything else. Then upon further research, I understand that the experience would definitely be better if the girls were bi and therefore into each other. If not, then things can get a bit awkward.

I'll probably try this sometime in Montreal if I'm up to it.

Angus

Thanx for your response.

I have had some experience with threesomes in the past. 2 of my previous girlfriends were also into girls, and I had a number of sessions in my teens and then in my thirties with a girlfriend and a buddy. On occasions it was a terrific experience, but I agree that in general it can be a hit-and-miss affair.

KD, as you pointed out in your excellent recent dissertation on Berlin Bordells, is a 'Franzosich safe' establishment only, which rules out that venue for me.

Perhaps I'll try and organise something via one of the girls I see at Monrouge or Liberty's - I'll post a report once the deed is done

Cheers,

Charlie

I just returned from a long weekend trip to Berlin and was able to stop at a couple of places while I was there. Thanks to the info on this board, I was able to feel confident that I wouldn't go wrong with either of these places. Thanks to all who have posted.

The first place I went was Tantrazentrum Massage. I saw Katharina. She is very cute and has a good body. She isn't skinny, but I would certainly not call her big. She just has a good body. Her English is not great, but we could communicate. I had an 1-3/4 hour appt.

This place to me is first class (or I am easily impressed). It is very clean, I had a fresh robe and towels available when I showered, and the masage bed was even heated. It felt great after taking a shower to lay down on a nice warm bed. Katharina gave a very thorough massage mostly with her hands and arms, but occassionally used her body. She kept clothes on most of the time except during body-to-body portions. I didn't try to touch her at all. I was just along for the ride. I know many people say this is a steep price to pay for what essentially amounts to a HJ, but the massage was exceptional and I left feeling great. I can't really complain. I recommend this place and if you go on a Sunday the rates are discounted.

The next day I went to Salon Prestige. I had to walk around a little to see the sign that showed where it was. Just keep your eye out and it's easy after that. I was sat down in a room and the girls came in one-by-one to introduce themselves. There were four to choose from. I picked Michelle and paid my 60 euros for the half hour.

Michelle was a medium height blonde girl. She was on the slim side and looked fairly young. Very cute face. You can see her body pics on the website. Her English was pretty good and we had no problem talking. The room was clean and I was offered some mineral water before the session.

I won't go into details on this session because I went there after essentially walking the city all day and was super tired. Michelle did wonderfully, but I wasn't completely up to the task. I did what I needed to though and left happy. I think she is worth a visit.

Well that's my trip. This is my first post, so my apologies if I didn't include enough details. If you have any questions please feel free to ask.

Thanks again for all your help.

Hi,

I just wondering if there are pick-up bars in Berlin, like they have in Asia (e.g. Beach Club in Kuala Lumpur, or Manhattan in Shanghai or Ipanema in Singapore). I don't want to go to a brothel or a sauna club. I need the feeling that I meet a girl occasionally while drinking beer.

You could give Cafe Pssst! a try. Sorry, no recent reports as far as I know. And the web page is annoying (to say the least) and fairly uninformative.

I think the price for taking a girl to a room is 125€/hr. and I imagine that it would be hard to get away without buying a few drinks for her as well so that pushes the cost up...

Have fun and don't forget to write a report.

Hello all,

I finally got around to taking the plunge and getting a membership since I'm now going to be travelling to Europe more often. I'm going to Berlin in September for a little R&R and looking for a hotel recommendation. Since I want to get around via public transportation I'm hoping someone can recommend a good, 3 star hotel that it is OK to bring girls to (in case that is the way I end up going).

I have searched through the board but not sure if cars are required at the hotels listed. Any help would be appreciated and reports to follow.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]You could give Cafe Pssst! a try. Sorry, no recent reports as far as I know. And the web page is annoying (to say the least) and fairly uninformative.

I think the price for taking a girl to a room is 125€/hr. and I imagine that it would be hard to get away without buying a few drinks for her as well so that pushes the cost up...

Have fun and don't forget to write a report.[/QUOTE]
.. who wants to know about this place too.

I've read about it since forever but have never had the chance to visit.

From all descriptions it is set up like a pick up bar but not a regular bar with alcoholic drinks, instead as a milk bar (?). Can this be true?

No, I don't believe you milk the women.

Here is the website:

[url]http://www.cafe-pssst.de[/url]

According to RF reports, the women are supposedly non-pros who have 9-5 jobs and do this on the side. However, the posters doubt that this is really the case. The women do a bit of marketing, they say.

Three other Berlin addresses which are worthwhile trying (according to the RF):

a) The bar at the Crown Plaza hotel,
b) Diagonally cross from the Hilton at Gendarmenmarkt is the Newton Bar,
c) The Hotel Estrell also has a bar and nightclub

Tip a) is unconfirmed. Postings on the other two read like they are more certain.

At c) there are very nice looking younger women who don't look like pros but once you have a conversation with them they will come very quickly to the point.

[QUOTE=Jackyo].. who wants to know about this place too.

I've read about it since forever but have never had the chance to visit.

From all descriptions it is set up like a pick up bar but not a regular bar with alcoholic drinks, instead as a milk bar (?). Can this be true?

No, I don't believe you milk the women.

Here is the website:

[url]http://www.cafe-pssst.de[/url]

According to RF reports, the women are supposedly non-pros who have 9-5 jobs and do this on the side. However, the posters doubt that this is really the case. The women do a bit of marketing, he said.

Three other Berlin addresses which are worthwhile trying (according to the RF):

a) The bar at the Crown Plaza hotel,
b) Across from the Hilton at Gendarmenmarkt is the Newton Bar,
c) The Hotel Estrell also has a bar

Tip a) is unconfirmed. Postings on the other two read like they are more certain.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for including the link. I forgot.

When I first moved here to Berlin I lived very close to Cafe Pssst. At the time I had very little money so such places were not an option for me. But I did pass by often in the evening and was always kind of curious about the place. I often saw some pretty attractive ladies going inside and it does indeed look just like a normal neighborhood bar. So I am quite curious to see an up to date report.

But I really do suspect that it would be a bit over priced. I guess the one advantage (IMO) it would have is the "pick-up" scenario/fantasy. I guess that there is something in that....

Angus and Jackyo,

Thanks for your answers! Today I had no chance due to custumer reqirements.

The Pssst is probably not my target.

Crown Plaza (on Nürnberger Strasse?) I tried before without result.

Estrell is the big conf centre in the east?

Probably tomorrow I go to Newton on Gendarmen market.

Yeah, I report on success!

[QUOTE=Gtrock123]Hello all,

I finally got around to taking the plunge and getting a membership since I'm now going to be travelling to Europe more often. I'm going to Berlin in September for a little R&R and looking for a hotel recommendation. Since I want to get around via public transportation I'm hoping someone can recommend a good, 3 star hotel that it is OK to bring girls to (in case that is the way I end up going).

I have searched through the board but not sure if cars are required at the hotels listed. Any help would be appreciated and reports to follow.

Thanks[/QUOTE]
Hmm.. I don't know if anyone on this board has much experience with the escort scene and picking an appropriate hotel which allows guests.

Berlin has a lot of formats: Sexkinos, street action, Wohungspuffs, FKK clubs but almost nothing has been reported about escorts.

They tend to be expensive in Germany. The issues are that a) you don't have a chance to test for chemistry before committing, b) you have no recourse should you have a customer complaint.

At an FKK club you can at least a) have a conversation first to decide if you will get along, b) turn to management and complain if you have a billing or service issue, z. B.

A Wohnungspuff will be similarly easy to manuever. Think incall.

[QUOTE=Jackyo]Hmm.. I don't know if anyone on this board has much experience with the escort scene and picking an appropriate hotel which allows guests.

Berlin has a lot of formats: Sexkinos, street action, Wohungspuffs, FKK clubs but almost nothing has been reported about escorts.

They tend to be expensive in Germany. The issues are that a) you don't have a chance to test for chemistry before committing, b) you have no recourse should you have a customer complaint.

At an FKK club you can at least a) have a conversation first to decide if you will get along, b) turn to management and complain if you have a billing or service issue, z. B.

A Wohnungspuff will be similarly easy to manuever. Think incall.[/QUOTE]

I have to agree. As I reported in my Berlin escorts post I have always found the Berlin escort scene to be a bit hit and miss. One needs time to research the various choices available. (Made easier, I might ad, by the escort report just mentioned.) If you just go by a picture on a web page you are likely to end up disappointed. At least with a bordello (or Wohungspuff) you have the chance to meet the girls, albeit briefly, and try to get a sense of her through eye contact. And as Jackyo mentions, at an FKK you actually get to sit and talk to a girl, or observe her interaction with other customers, before deciding.

The only advantage to an escort is that they can be slightly cheaper, especially when booking a couple of hours. The better bordellos in Berlin charge 150€ (eg. Royal) to 160€ (KD) per hour. If you can find a decent escort it will probably cost no more than 100€ for the first hour and a bit less there after. And sometimes (Hautnah) most extras (cim,cof,bbbj) are included in the price.

Spent 2 days and 2 nights this week in Berlin. Not sure when or if I'll have time in the coming weeks to write long reports so here is a brief summary.

Monday:
1) Berlin Swinger Club Zweiplast- Iseeu's rule #786: Never visit a swinger club on Monday or Tuesday night unless of course it's called Beverly. Broke the rule and was punished with no sex. Not even a hard on, although Jenny, the bar girl was mighty fine to look at. With entry only 60 Euro, I put on my explorer hat and took a chance.
New and pretty nice place. Bar with Sauna, jacuzzi and f*ck rooms. Other than Jenny, there were 2 single girls, who were only playing with the 3 guys that they came with. Cut my losses at about 11 p.m. and took a taxi to

2) Artemis- Not my favorite place, but I try to get there on each Berlin visit. Although there was big Messe in town, the club wasn't crowded and the girls complained that they are seeing far fewer locals.

After drooling at Jenny for a couple of hours, I needed to get my rocks off, so I walked around looking for a likely prospect- found Lena from Poland mostly because she was the only SP in the place who smiled when I looked at her. Everyone else had this glazed bored look. She was OK, but just OK. Probably not totally her fault. I've become jaded, probably have too high expectations from my SP and I have to say that the vibe and service level here are very reminiscent of Palace; i.e. bus station. After not finding much else to do here, I left at about 2 a.m.

Tuesday:
1) Met with Angus Magee, our Berlin guru for a couple of beers on a very fine Berlin summer night, although we couldn't find any Oranienburger SW out on the beat. Really nice guy and we had a long talk about life, American politics, world economy and his recent opus on the Berlin sex scene (Coffee table book and possibly a movie deal in the works). Amazingly, he's not ventured out of Berlin to hobby. We have to change that, and hopefully, I'll be able to be his personal guide later this year. Broke off, went to dinner with a colleague, broke that off by pleading a migraine and took the U- Bahn to Berlinerstrasse for the short walk to

2) Kamilla Dee- the Berlin icon, and Angus' current favorite for its consistently fine level of SP and service; the "Bernd's of Berlin brothels". Got there at about 10:20 p.m just in time because they close at 11. I had a list compiled in my mind and of that list only Mila was on duty. Went through the lineup, contemplated Cheyenne, but stuck with my gut feeling about Mila and was rewarded with an excellent session. She's German, but speaks an excellent English and is just beautiful to look at and touch. I gave her a long oily massage which she loved, and then she was like butter in my hands. I wanted an hour long session, but due to the late hour, they wanted to restrict it to half an hour, but Mila went to speak with the manageress, who agreed to 45 minutes. 120 Euro for 50 minutes with this gorgeous lady? Well worth the price of admission.

Next morning; off to NRW for visits to PT Zur Linde([url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=785806&postcount=24[/url]) and GT. See appropriate threads when I get around to posting.

Brief reports on places posted by readers here:
1) Liberty - CYNTHIA
This place is in Schoenfeld, about 7-8 minute walk from Wittenberg U-bahn if I remember correctly.

The lineup here was rather weak, with one obvious gem - Cynthia. So picked her. She is much better than the pics on their website, with the best peach ass I have seen in my life. Seriously, the pics do it no justice. Website says she is "oriental". Dunno what that means and didnt ask, but my guess is arabian, iranian, indian, turkish, something like that.

Age on website is 19, that could be true, but maybe 21 or 23. Hard to say. Either way very young looking and tight slim body. Website says 1.70 metres but I thought maybe 1.65 or a lil bit more. Black hair.

Very pretty face and friendly nature. And just an all round friendly and beautiful gal. She is striking, so you would notice her anywhere, but yet has a certain calmness. If I saw her on the street, I'd have had another look - she's hot - but I would not have pegged her for this profession, if I didnt know. Seems well balanced.

Speaks some very basic English. says she grew up in Berlin.

Service was even better. Best oral technique I have had as well, she offers oral without condom as an extra. Was well worth the time. That said, at one point she went down on the knob when I had put the condom on and there was not that much difference - she was that good at it.

Sex was delivered with a lot of enthusiasm. 2nd round was even better and she really got into it. Pretty flexible and can pin her legs back with no problem at all. She is light enough to pick up easily.

This was an excellent session with a great gal - would recommend her anytime.



2) Van Kampen - MARIA
She has no pic in the website, just a description. She is about 1.75 metres, slim, very nice hips and ass, small-ish tits. Long blonde hair.

There were some other nice looking girls there but she seemed very friendly and on the ball so I picked her. Speaks excellent english too. Is German, says from Berlin.

Session was great. She did oral without as an extra, was willing to kiss as an extra. I took up the option of anal sex for an extra fee. She was not tight in the first hole, to be honest, but the 2nd hole was so tight, it more than made up for it! Highly recommended for that aspect.

This gal has some flaws in that her tits were a bit disaappointing, but the other pluses more than made up for it. She really is pretty and very cute looking german gal, but with the tits being weak, not a fantasty girl as such once the clothes are off. However but is nevertheless very attractive with a beuatiful figure and great service - I would be willing to go see her again.

As far as I am concerned, Angus lives the life of Riley.

Berlin is my favorite city in the entire planet and the multiple formats possible for paid sex there can't be beat.

I've not been for a while because of my fixation with the smaller, minor NRW clubs so I have to content myself with living vicariously via posts here about Berlin.

The cultural scene in Berlin is unbeatable. And the best thing about Berlin is that is is the cheapest major European capital. Paris, London and Rome exist on another plane price-wise.

[QUOTE=Jackyo]As far as I am concerned, Angus lives the life of Riley.

Berlin is my favorite city in the entire planet and the multiple formats possible for paid sex there can't be beat.

I've not been for a while because of my fixation with the smaller, minor NRW clubs so I have to content myself with living vicariously via posts here about Berlin.

The cultural scene in Berlin is unbeatable. And the best thing about Berlin is that is is the cheapest major European capital. Paris, London and Rome exist on another plane price-wise.[/QUOTE]

Nice to know that I am living in "the hub".

If you do come to Berlin let me know and perhaps we can meet for a beer-compare notes. This past week met Iceeu (for the second time actually) for a couple of cold ones near Hackesher Mkt. and found it very enjoyable to meet face to face with one of the boards FKK/Partytref experts.

[QUOTE=Skagen]Brief reports on places posted by readers here:
1) Liberty - CYNTHIA
This place is in Schoenfeld, about 7-8 minute walk from Wittenberg U-bahn if I remember correctly.

The lineup here was rather weak, with one obvious gem - Cynthia. So picked her. She is much better than the pics on their website, with the best peach ass I have seen in my life. Seriously, the pics do it no justice. Website says she is "oriental". Dunno what that means and didnt ask, but my guess is arabian, iranian, indian, turkish, something like that.

Age on website is 19, that could be true, but maybe 21 or 23. Hard to say. Either way very young looking and tight slim body. Website says 1.70 metres but I thought maybe 1.65 or a lil bit more. Black hair.

Very pretty face and friendly nature. And just an all round friendly and beautiful gal. She is striking, so you would notice her anywhere, but yet has a certain calmness. If I saw her on the street, I'd have had another look - she's hot - but I would not have pegged her for this profession, if I didnt know. Seems well balanced.

Speaks some very basic English. says she grew up in Berlin.

Service was even better. Best oral technique I have had as well, she offers oral without condom as an extra. Was well worth the time. That said, at one point she went down on the knob when I had put the condom on and there was not that much difference - she was that good at it.

Sex was delivered with a lot of enthusiasm. 2nd round was even better and she really got into it. Pretty flexible and can pin her legs back with no problem at all. She is light enough to pick up easily.

This was an excellent session with a great gal - would recommend her anytime.
[/QUOTE]


Just for the record, Liberty is in Berlin, Schöneberg not Schönefeld-the location of Berlin's 3rd airport and some minutes more walk than 5 from UBahn Wittenbergplatz.

But many, many thanks for the report. I have had an eye on this girl for several weeks now and it is good to get such a positive report of her skills. Based on you report I will be seeing her very soon.

[url]http://www.libertyberlin.de/marie.htm[/url]

I had a half hour visit with the lovely Marie at Liberty this week-the standard 60€ for a half hour session-no extras-applied.

Marie is a lovely young 20 year old and I would say that this age is absolutely accurate. This girl has milky white skin, stunning breasts (not to big but with perfect shape) and a smoothly shaved pussy that begs to be licked. She has a pretty face and would be a real beauty if she could smile more. She was a tad serious-at least for the beginning of the session.

I did find her to be a very quiet girl and for a while wondered if my selection was off. But as the session progressed she did get more lively. She was very responsive to daty (got real wet) but fingers were not on the menu.

The main event was very invigorating, especially when banging her from behind which is how it finished. I did not last long staring down at and manipulating her young ass, watching little Angus going in and out.

Repeat factor is fairly high-especailly as she does offer anal as an extra and seemed like she would actually enjoy it. I always like to try a girl out with a normal session first before dropping the relatively high extra cost for anal that Liberty asks.

Is this the Crystal Bar at Hotel Estrel on Sonnenalle 225 that you mention?

[QUOTE=Jackyo].. who wants to know about this place too.

I've read about it since forever but have never had the chance to visit.

From all descriptions it is set up like a pick up bar but not a regular bar with alcoholic drinks, instead as a milk bar (?). Can this be true?

No, I don't believe you milk the women.

Here is the website:

[url]http://www.cafe-pssst.de[/url]

According to RF reports, the women are supposedly non-pros who have 9-5 jobs and do this on the side. However, the posters doubt that this is really the case. The women do a bit of marketing, they say.

Three other Berlin addresses which are worthwhile trying (according to the RF):

a) The bar at the Crown Plaza hotel,
b) Diagonally cross from the Hilton at Gendarmenmarkt is the Newton Bar,
c) The Hotel Estrell also has a bar and nightclub

Tip a) is unconfirmed. Postings on the other two read like they are more certain.

At c) there are very nice looking younger women who don't look like pros but once you have a conversation with them they will come very quickly to the point.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Just for the record, Liberty is in Berlin, Schöneberg not Schönefeld-the location of Berlin's 3rd airport and some minutes more walk than 5 from UBahn Wittenbergplatz.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for catching that - needless to say my German is about zero. Thanks also to you and others who have posted on these places before!

BTW if you are into anal, I would add that when I was at Van Kampen, Wioletta was one of the girls presented to me. I did not pick her, but I would say she looked pretty much exactly like the pics they have online there - not a model-type but attractive enough and very petite. Seemed nice enough in personality as well....

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Nice to know that I am living in "the hub".

If you do come to Berlin let me know and perhaps we can meet for a beer-compare notes. This past week met Iceeu (for the second time actually) for a couple of cold ones near Hackesher Mkt. and found it very enjoyable to meet face to face with one of the boards FKK/Partytref experts.[/QUOTE]
I like Berlin and wish that I could get here more often for business, but in any case the chance to meet with you, the unparallelled Berlin guru, is a real honor. Only wish we could have hit some clubs together. Maybe next time, or on your upcoming "breaking out" trip to NRW and Hesse clubs.

[url]http://www.libertyberlin.de/cynthia2.htm[/url]

On Skagen’s recommendation I stopped in to see Cynthia at Liberty this afternoon. I would agree with more or less everything he writes. The age is most definitely a bit older than suggested on the website (say 19 but I would put her closer to 23-24) but this is no big issue as she is a lovely girl with a beautiful face and a slim figure.
And, as noted, her oral skills are quite good. Most girls I find have not much idea of how much pressure to use. Cynthia just seems to get it just right somehow. I usually find that while I enjoy oral, it is quite difficult to orgasm with oral alone-I mean with no hand involved. With her I am quite sure that this would not be a problem.
Repeat? Probably not soon as I have others that I like better that I will see first. Unless she decides to start offering FT, then I would be in there like a shot.

Well goin to Berlin on the 5th of November for 5 nights and came acorss this forum and I must say its the best for info. So, just a couple of questions basically. I think I'll be goin to both Artemis and Kamilla La Dee. About KD. Anyone has a past experience with a girl named Anushka? She is the only girl by appointment only and damn she s the finest girl I ever seen, or close to it. Any details about her appreciated. Well forgot the other question for a moment:.S will come bk to you later if I remember.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Sunstar777]Well goin to Berlin on the 5th of November for 5 nights and came acorss this forum and I must say its the best for info. So, just a couple of questions basically. I think I'll be goin to both Artemis and Kamilla La Dee. About KD. Anyone has a past experience with a girl named Anushka? She is the only girl by appointment only and damn she s the finest girl I ever seen, or close to it. Any details about her appreciated. Well forgot the other question for a moment:.S will come bk to you later if I remember.

Cheers[/QUOTE]

Sorry, I can not help you out with any personal experience. But KD is a sterling bordello and I think it is a pretty safe bet that the experience would be good. That she is just available by appointment is a good sign-part timer. If you do get to see her please do let us all know how it goes.

[QUOTE=Sunstar777]Well goin to Berlin on the 5th of November for 5 nights and came acorss this forum and I must say its the best for info. So, just a couple of questions basically. I think I'll be goin to both Artemis and Kamilla La Dee. About KD. Anyone has a past experience with a girl named Anushka? She is the only girl by appointment only and damn she s the finest girl I ever seen, or close to it. Any details about her appreciated. Well forgot the other question for a moment:.S will come bk to you later if I remember.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
1) There are other ladies who work only by appointment

2) Anushka lived(ves ?) in Poland

3) She was gentle, nice but did not kiss me but you may be luckier than me ( a lady can kiss just some but not all clients) ?

Hope she will be available when I get there. As soon as I hit Berlin I'll call to see if she available for some time. How much did you pay mate because it says you can stay with her minimum of 1hour. Thats some 160 euors I guess eh?

Cheers

New in Berlin. think I will stay a while!

Went to KD recently and had Laura. Wow what a set of boobs... (fake but great) Well worth the visit. Really good place no pressure no hassle all good.

Have seen the photos of Anoushka.. think that´s how you spell it. She looks well worth the effort.

[QUOTE=Sunstar777]Hope she will be available when I get there. As soon as I hit Berlin I'll call to see if she available for some time. How much did you pay mate because it says you can stay with her minimum of 1hour. Thats some 160 euors I guess eh?

Cheers[/QUOTE]I think you are talking about Anushka.

Normally, she works with private meetings (usually called "escort" in KD and recently noted as "appointments only" on the web site) : 200 Euros for the first hour , and 160 Euros for each following hour ( so, one hour meeting will be 200 E. and 2 hours meeting will be 360 E.)

Laura is beautiful (for a while, her photo was used for the presenting cards of KD). Laura does not kiss (at least with me) and her clitoris is "closed" by a piercing.

Anyone been to bui Europa aka Europasalon lately? I notice that Olga is no longer on their website. I'm no familiar with the other girls. There are only 4 listed.

Laura is indeed very beautiful (especially now with her new fake boobs she has this gorgeous porn star look) but she's also a bit boring in my opinion.

I had a few sessions with her and when it comes to sex, she's definitely no porn star or party animal. Sex is dull yet professional and her conversational skills are very limited.

Nevertheless, a fair deal for €80,-

[QUOTE=Brownangel954]Anyone been to bui Europa aka Europasalon lately? I notice that Olga is no longer on their website. I'm no familiar with the other girls. There are only 4 listed.[/QUOTE]

I have been there not too recently but with in the past two months (mid summer). My observation of this place is that there seems to be a fairly high turn over of girls and that the web site is not always up to date.

That being said, both times I have been I have had decent sessions-once with Polina (who is on the site) and once with a girl named Violetta (no longer on site) with whom I had quite a good session but who disappeared before I could have a repeat. Too bad as she was really quite a sweetie.

Polina I found Okay. Quite good looking (but with bad teeth:-( ) and a decent, but not stunning, performer.

I'd say this place is worth a look once in a while but be prepared to say no if nothing catches your fancy and move on to Liberty which is no more than 10-15 mins. walk away and is ultimately a better bordello IMO.

Am has provided a detailed and extensive list of establishments. Permit me to add one more: Erotikakademie. A very expensive (200 euros for 1st hour and 150 for additional) and unreliable outfit. This is unfortunate since my first experience with them was quite positive. My motto is to take care of those who take care of me. Follow up appointments with its staff have been very poor. They have also resorted to posting pictures who no longer work there.

Look forward to learning about other mongers' experience with this outfit. But I would certainly recommend trying others before being disappointed by Ero.

[QUOTE=JohnThomas0519]Am has provided a detailed and extensive list of establishments. Permit me to add one more: Erotikakademie. A very expensive (200 euros for 1st hour and 150 for additional) and unreliable outfit. This is unfortunate since my first experience with them was quite positive. My motto is to take care of those who take care of me. Follow up appointments with its staff have been very poor. They have also resorted to posting pictures who no longer work there.

Look forward to learning about other mongers' experience with this outfit. But I would certainly recommend trying others before being disappointed by Ero.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the info. I guess left them off my list as I once called and was quoted a ridiculous price (for a visit to them) and so crossed them off my mental list and forgot about them. They were also quite rude on the phone.

Perhaps it is an issue with "ausländers" as by the website I would judge it to be fine place. The girls certainly look fine.

[QUOTE=Sunstar777]Hope she will be available when I get there. As soon as I hit Berlin I'll call to see if she available for some time. How much did you pay mate because it says you can stay with her minimum of 1hour. Thats some 160 euors I guess eh?

Cheers[/QUOTE]Sunstar777. Don't know about other's experiences but I once went through considerable hassles to try to hook up with Anushka. A few cancelled rendezvous at KD's. Finally we met there and she was just bored out of her mind-just while talking to see if it was worth it. It wasn't. Very glad I stuck with my policy of a little chit chat first before any commitments. My German is pretty good. Certainly better than hers. She's quite pretty but not worth it IMHO. There are far better other options at KD, Liberty, Prestige, Mon Rouge, and Artemis.

With all its limits and constraints, I think Artemis on balance still the winner. There are real gems elsewhere, but with schedule constraints, the probabilities for a short-timer in Berlin are still greatest at Artemis. WED-SAT eves after 1900 when night shift comes on. Weekends especially with a Messe on can be a bit over the top. Regardless, just be choosey, see if there's some sort of connection, and talk before you tango. There is nothing worse than excessive dashed expectations when 5 minutes could have set off either the alarm bells, or the green light.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0]Sunstar777. Don't know about other's experiences but I once went through considerable hassles to try to hook up with Anushka. A few cancelled rendezvous at KD's. Finally we met there and she was just bored out of her mind-just while talking to see if it was worth it. It wasn't. Very glad I stuck with my policy of a little chit chat first before any commitments. My German is pretty good. Certainly better than hers. She's quite pretty but not worth it IMHO. There are far better other options at KD, Liberty, Prestige, Mon Rouge, and Artemis.
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Good info Rocketboy. And good for you sticking to your policy. To often we are cowed into going though with a lousy session when the chemistry just isn't there. I can't help but wonder if your not going through with the session caused any ripples from the girl or the bordello.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Good info Rocketboy. And good for you sticking to your policy. To often we are cowed into going though with a lousy session when the chemistry just isn't there. I can't help but wonder if your not going through with the session caused any ripples from the girl or the bordello. [/QUOTE]Thanks Angus. No I'll after effects but possibly due to being a KD infrequent regular. But I don't think so-my experience is most good places are quite accommodating as long as you are polite. Speaking German probably does not hurt. However, I will say that it varies as you know all too well. E. G. Van Kampen and Ritter 11/Tiffany's seem to really care less despite their aura. But the others on the circuit. Esp KD, Liberty, Prestige seem all very chilled about such things. The ability to take one's time and talk is a big plus at Artemis. Despite its factory size. I was thinking more for a tourist. It's the best compromise as the gems elsewhere can have limited availability.

But lads in general. Talk first and just see if the vibe is there. It's just awful being with a really beautiful woman who's not into you. And it happens. It can also be that once they start speaking, you find their beauty is just not enough. It's natural and if it happens, just move on-better for both.

Of course some men are into this scene to dominate or project power, and some providers will respond or act the part. But in general, for me it works best if you treat your provider with some respect and gentleness. Give them a massage, be washed, start slow. It relaxes both sides. If you want to be brutal-play football with some mates. I cannot tell you how many times I hear this from women. How rare it is that customers just try to put themselves in the woman's mind. Give well, and you shall get well. And for better or worse, the best way to warm a woman up is by talking, by making her laugh or at least smile. To show it's safe for her. It's just the way things are. Try it. You may be surprised at the animal you'll unleash.

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Is it just me or does anyone else find the thought of an Anal discount day a bit,well, just a bit off putting.

[url]http://www.bundesallee128.de/html/specials.html[/url]

I mean I guess it is a good deal but I can imagine that the girls would be hurting perhaps just a bit by, say, 18:00 hrs. Tempting as it seems I think I'll pass.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0]But lads in general. Talk first and just see if the vibe is there. It's just awful being with a really beautiful woman who's not into you. And it happens. It can also be that once they start speaking, you find their beauty is just not enough. It's natural and if it happens, just move on-better for both.

Of course some men are into this scene to dominate or project power, and some providers will respond or act the part. But in general, for me it works best if you treat your provider with some respect and gentleness. Give them a massage, be washed, start slow. It relaxes both sides. If you want to be brutal-play football with some mates. I cannot tell you how many times I hear this from women. How rare it is that customers just try to put themselves in the woman's mind. Give well, and you shall get well. And for better or worse, the best way to warm a woman up is by talking, by making her laugh or at least smile. To show it's safe for her. It's just the way things are. Try it. You may be surprised at the animal you'll unleash.
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I am allergic to [i]Optikficks[/i] and I will do anything to avoid them.

Their physical appeal only takes you just so far and I've had enough of my share of women who look great but who are duds personality-wise.

Why bother?

As you have written, its cool when she is into you as you are into her too. It shows in her service and its more than just an impersonal physical interaction if you make this kind of a connection.

I won't go with women who don't smile or laugh (or better said, women who I can't make smile or laugh). For Chrissakes, it has to be as much fun for them as it is for me.

I was having an offline exchange with Marlow and he wrote that after all is said and done, the only part of a session he remembers is what they talked about. Same with me.

I forget the details of a physical encounter but even years after I recall the sometimes crazy, sometimes offbeat things we talked about or the jokes I shared with a chick. This part I consider to her really letting her hair down and just being open and herself. Now that is what I consider intimacy.

Some guys probably figure its about her opening her legs.

[QUOTE=Jackyo]I am allergic to [i]Optikficks[/i] and I will do anything to avoid them.

Their physical appeal only takes you just so far and I've had enough of my share of women who look great but who are duds personality-wise.

Why bother?

As you have written, its cool when she is into you as you are into her too. It shows in her service and its more than just an impersonal physical interaction if you make this kind of a connection.

I won't go with women who don't smile or laugh (or better said, women who I can't make smile or laugh). For Chrissakes, it has to be as much fun for them as it is for me.

I was having an offline exchange with Marlow and he wrote that after all is said and done, the only part of a session he remembers is what they talked about. Same with me.

I forget the details of a physical encounter but even years after I recall the sometimes crazy, sometimes offbeat things we talked about or the jokes I shared with a chick. This part I consider to her really letting her hair down and just being open and herself. Now that is what I consider intimacy.

Some guys probably figure its about her opening her legs.[/QUOTE]Amen, Brother.

But. Remember, the whole 1 hr intimacy thing does have its limits. Let's not get too romantic about what's going down, about what we're doing, about what they're doing. I surely don't. However nice I try to be, the nature of this means I ain't no saint. And while it's true that one can sort of sense when a laugh, a smile, even an orgasm is genuine, at some level, we'll never really know. Human sexuality is at its core, a mystery.

But with a little give, and a little respect, it can indeed be a joyous thing. The whole GFE (somehow an absurd notion) actually starts with the man. A B(oy)FE.

What I do want to stress. And I'm glad this thread has started. Is how we studs are really burning out so many Providers. When you talk with them about it, the stories you hear are really not to be believed. Men. We do need to up our game.

[QUOTE=Jackyo]I am allergic to [i]Optikficks[/i] and I will do anything to avoid them.

Their physical appeal only takes you just so far and I've had enough of my share of women who look great but who are duds personality-wise.

Why bother?

As you have written, its cool when she is into you as you are into her too. It shows in her service and its more than just an impersonal physical interaction if you make this kind of a connection.

I won't go with women who don't smile or laugh (or better said, women who I can't make smile or laugh). For Chrissakes, it has to be as much fun for them as it is for me.

I was having an offline exchange with Marlow and he wrote that after all is said and done, the only part of a session he remembers is what they talked about. Same with me.

I forget the details of a physical encounter but even years after I recall the sometimes crazy, sometimes offbeat things we talked about or the jokes I shared with a chick. This part I consider to her really letting her hair down and just being open and herself. Now that is what I consider intimacy.

Some guys probably figure its about her opening her legs.[/QUOTE]Surely in that case one would just get a girlfriend. I think you pay for the ability of leaving after with no need to ever go back if you dont want to.

I also very much like your style Rocketboy. You give good advice with regard to having pleasant/exciting sessions.

I also agree about KD & Liberty being very well run and accommodating bordellos. I have found though that Salon Prestige has given me some attitude when I have been by and not found someone I like. Nothing overt, just a sort of reluctance from them to accept the fact that I am just going to walk. I have been, and stayed, three times now and each time was just not that happy with the session.

I contrast this with Liberty (and I do realize that they have the same owners) where I am alway (so far) at least 90% satisfied-often 100%. Not sure why this is and maybe I have just been lucky with the girls I chose at Liberty.

I am also finding that 1/2 sessions are just too short to really relax with the ladies. Good to know but hard on the wallet....

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I also very much like your style Rocketboy. You give good advice with regard to having pleasant/exciting sessions.

I also agree about KD & Liberty being very well run and accommodating bordellos. I have found though that Salon Prestige has given me some attitude when I have been by and not found someone I like. Nothing overt, just a sort of reluctance from them to accept the fact that I am just going to walk. I have been, and stayed, three times now and each time was just not that happy with the session.

I contrast this with Liberty (and I do realize that they have the same owners) where I am alway (so far) at least 90% satisfied-often 100%. Not sure why this is and maybe I have just been lucky with the girls I chose at Liberty.

I am also finding that 1/2 sessions are just too short to really relax with the ladies. Good to know but hard on the wallet....[/QUOTE]Angus - I agree on all points. But of course, ultimately, we aren't sleepin with the management, but rather their humble staff, and let us face it, the old Prussians' strength is not on their social graces. The higher-end peck(er)ing order is indeed is probably KD, Liberty, Prestige/Royal (I too have had static from both), with vanK at the bottom - followed by the rest. Artemis I find surprisingly friendly and accommodating, even more so considering the huge numbers of ladies and lads with whom they must deal. Still over time, the better management keeps the better mädchens...as shown by KD and Liberty.

[QUOTE=Roving Reporter]Surely in that case one would just get a girlfriend. I think you pay for the ability of leaving after with no need to ever go back if you dont want to.[/QUOTE]
Some guys define a GFE as a combination of abbreviations. You can even make a formula such as "DFK + BBBJ + DATY = GFE".

What I think a GFE is about is being with a chick whose company I enjoy and who would be a girlfriend in real life if the circumstances of our getting together weren't driven by economic forces.

Yes, I'd prefer to screw a girlfriend. Girlfriends are more interactive and more willing to experiment.

I am turned on by women who get turned on themselves, when they forget its an economic transaction. The natural lube they generate is much better lubricant than the artificial stuff, for one.

That fake moaning is a turnoff. When I'm screwing her and look down to see her rubbing her clit because she wants to get off too, that is a turn on. Or she starts rubbing her tits. Or when she says she wants you inside her deeper or she wants it faster.

I've done enough Optickficks who look great but don't have any personality. I've had them plop on the bed like a dead fish. Its about as close to necrophilia as I'll ever get. No one really wants to have a chick ask: "Are you done yet?".

The main advantage of meeting women like this is that, yes, you can walk away after. In real life women are so complicated. They have their emotional needs which you have to attend to and some of them are just plain neurotic.

Eh jackyo, We are made of the same marble :-)

[QUOTE=Jackyo]Some guys define a GFE as a combination of abbreviations. You can even make a formula such as "DFK + BBBJ + DATY = GFE".

What I think a GFE is about is being with a chick whose company I enjoy and who would be a girlfriend in real life if the circumstances of our getting together weren't driven by economic forces.

Yes, I'd prefer to screw a girlfriend. Girlfriends are more interactive and more willing to experiment.

I am turned on by women who get turned on themselves, when they forget its an economic transaction. The natural lube they generate is much better lubricant than the artificial stuff, for one.

That fake moaning is a turnoff. When I'm screwing her and look down to see her rubbing her clit because she wants to get off too, that is a turn on. Or she starts rubbing her tits. Or when she says she wants you inside her deeper or she wants it faster.

I've done enough Optickficks who look great but don't have any personality. I've had them plop on the bed like a dead fish. Its about as close to necrophilia as I'll ever get. No one really wants to have a chick ask: "Are you done yet?".

The main advantage of meeting women like this is that, yes, you can walk away after. In real life women are so complicated. They have their emotional needs which you have to attend to and some of them are just plain neurotic.[/QUOTE]

Hello Gents,

I am RTFF as we speak but would appreciate some rapid response as I am in Berlin for only a short while.

I am looking for a good massage place that also offers HJ / BJ from preferably hot naked girls.

Full service is not required.

Clean place, safe place with beautiful girls wins over price for me (within reason).

Thanks again!

I promise to report on anything I taste!

[QUOTE=Vicifranck]Eh jackyo, We are made of the same marble :-)[/QUOTE]
Cool!

We should meet up sometime to exchange notes.

Can't say right now when I'll be there next though.

I see an an advert for a newly opened club out by the Schoenfeld airport, amply called "The Pussy Club". From what I can gather you pay a flat fee (€70 daytime and €100 after 7pm) for unlimited sex. And drinks too! Including gang-bangs, threesomes, anal and most human perversions. Now this would be heaven on earth if the girls are of average to high standard but I can only presume that this is more a kennel then a high class bordello. I checked out (on the web) their sister spots in Heidelberg and Frankenberg. The latter had one cutie and the rest appeared on the heavy side. Likewise all the girls appear foreign and not one over twenty years old (not all bad but not all good either IMHO). Something is fishy here. Or?

I'm arriving to the great Berlin in a few weeks and would consider a trip by the ol' Pussy Club if any local (hint hint Mr. Angus) reports any positives. I am most sceptical but it could be a den of cheap thrills and utmost debauchery. Hell, I can drink for €100 and then spoof for free!

Any comments on this new spot?

The Grand Wazoo

[QUOTE=The Grand Wazoo]I see an an advert for a newly opened club out by the Schoenfeld airport, amply called "The Pussy Club". From what I can gather you pay a flat fee (€70 daytime and €100 after 7pm) for unlimited sex. And drinks too! Including gang-bangs, threesomes, anal and most human perversions. Now this would be heaven on earth if the girls are of average to high standard but I can only presume that this is more a kennel then a high class bordello. I checked out (on the web) their sister spots in Heidelberg and Frankenberg. The latter had one cutie and the rest appeared on the heavy side. Likewise all the girls appear foreign and not one over twenty years old (not all bad but not all good either IMHO). Something is fishy here. Or?

I'm arriving to the great Berlin in a few weeks and would consider a trip by the ol' Pussy Club if any local (hint hint Mr. Angus) reports any positives. I am most sceptical but it could be a den of cheap thrills and utmost debauchery. Hell, I can drink for €100 and then spoof for free!

Any comments on this new spot?

The Grand Wazoo[/QUOTE]Whats the web address?

You can find the advert on Berlin Intim

[url]http://www.berlinintim.de/[/url]

Here's the Pussy Club link

[url]http://www.pussy-club.eu/[/url]

Unfortunately the Berlin club does not have much info and no photos of the girls. I think that they just opened yesterday. but you can get an idea of this operation if one takes a look at the sister joints in Heidelberg and Frankenberg.

Any further info/report is greatly appreciated

The Grand Wazoo

[QUOTE=The Grand Wazoo]I see an an advert for a newly opened club out by the Schoenfeld airport, amply called "The Pussy Club". From what I can gather you pay a flat fee (€70 daytime and €100 after 7pm) for unlimited sex. And drinks too! Including gang-bangs, threesomes, anal and most human perversions. Now this would be heaven on earth if the girls are of average to high standard but I can only presume that this is more a kennel then a high class bordello. I checked out (on the web) their sister spots in Heidelberg and Frankenberg. The latter had one cutie and the rest appeared on the heavy side. Likewise all the girls appear foreign and not one over twenty years old (not all bad but not all good either IMHO). Something is fishy here. Or?

I'm arriving to the great Berlin in a few weeks and would consider a trip by the ol' Pussy Club if any local (hint hint Mr. Angus) reports any positives. I am most sceptical but it could be a den of cheap thrills and utmost debauchery. Hell, I can drink for €100 and then spoof for free!

Any comments on this new spot?

The Grand Wazoo[/QUOTE]

Well there are some pics up now and the ladies look not bad but not jaw dropping either. The location is way out of my typical haunts so it is doubtful that, with out some major high marks from some other reporter, I will be making the trip out to Schönefeld to give it a try.

In any case, the partytreff/GB scene is not really my thing. And I think that this is what this place is if I am not mistaken.

Lately I have pretty much been sticking with a small handful of ladies at KD and Liberty who I like and from whom I get the service I like.I guess I am looking for a bit of familiarity at the moment. Perhaps my days of roving reporter are over for now.

Though I do want to experience FKK Artemis or some other excellent FKK some time soon.

Dudes,

I'll be visiting Berlin with my girlfriend soon. She likes the idea of visiting a strip club, and understandably would like it if a male dancer would be available for a lapdance for her; I obviously want a female dancer though. Does anyone know of a suitable place, where both of us could have fun?

Cheers,

Wabbit

Hi all!

Ok, the headline was a re-writing of the Leonard Cohen song, and since I haven’t been to Manhattan for a long time, it was more correct to write Warsawa. My (longer) hobby-travels have been far between the last couple of years, and the last safari was last year in Warzawa. For a re-cap of my experiences there check: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=625743&highlight=intercontinental#post625743[/url]

As you can see I was less than impressed with the punting scene in the Polish capital. I am, of course, aware that I might have been just very unlucky, but when this year’s window of opportunity was opened I did not want to go back and try my luck again. Instead I went to Berlin, in part thanks to the writings of some of the active members on this forum. So here is a short description of my punting experiences in Berlin this August:

1: Marlene at Liberty ([url]http://www.libertyberlin.de/marlene.html[/url]). I went to Liberty without having checked the website for who was working. Sometimes I like to make a booking in advance, if I know a special lady who is worth visiting again, but going through the selection-phase when I am in the house adds a certain excitement. This time the line up consisted of 5 or 6 women, all quite attractive (7-8 on a scale of 10). Marlene is beautiful woman, quite tall, and very curvy and feminine, with really nice DDs. She also provided a very good service, nice kisses, good OWO, and a variety of positions. To finish our ménage-a-deux she gave a very good massage also. The atmosphere was friendly, and I can definitely see myself return to see her again. Financial damage for 40 minutes: 80 +20(Kisses)+20(OWO). Liberty has relocated since my last visit (a couple of years ago), but the service and quality of the place seems unchanged, thankfully.

2: Nicky at Monrouge ([url]http://www.monrouge.de/nicky.html[/url]). I had seen the website before, but something had kept me away. Don’t ask why, it was just a feeling I had. When I visited Monrouge this time it was a direct result of recommendations on this board (Angus Magee, in particular). Anyway: the place looked quite nice, in an old-fashioned house of I'll repute-way, complete with very creaky floorboards. When I arrived (around 3pm) the house madam informed me that there were only 2 women available. I recognized the name Nicky (based on this board), and chose her without seeing the other one. One of the reasons to come to Monrouge was to check out if any of the women were good enough to book for an outcall, so I settled for a 30 minute session (the outcall-scenario never materialized, unfortunately, due to other commitments on my part). Nicky gave a very good OWO, which was all I was after this time. She’s really hot, in a porno way, and seemed to warm up quite nicely after a hesitant start. Fin. Damage: 70 (30 min) + 30 (OWO). Will I return? Quite likely!

3: Was in the mood for a massage, and checked out Yoko’s ([url]http://www.yoko-massagen.de/start.php[/url]) near Checkpoint Charlie. This was the first time ever I had gone to a massage place, so I was not sure what to expect. Not to worry, was met by a friendly woman that explained what I could choose from, and decided on a 90 minute tantra massage. I am not sure if I could choose the masseuse, there were three women there when I arrived, but I just went with the flow, and had no regrets. Very soothing and relaxing massage followed, not that painful "medicinal" massage I had feared. The beautiful woman (I never caught her name, unfortunately) stripped down to her birthday suit, and the feeling of her wonderful naked body against me was pure bliss. Was offered a HJ to finish, but didn’t really need it. My happy ending was just as happy without physical release this time. Cost: 150 (90 min). Repeat factor: Yes, please!

4: Previously (in the last couple of years) I had had quite a few, very positive, experiences at Royal in Bundesplatz, so I had to check it out again, even if I could see on the website that my favorites had moved on. The line-up was quite good this time also. This time I went for the boobs, and chose Paula ([url]http://www.royalgirl.de/models/php/over.php? Name=paula[/url]), even if her facial beauty was a bit different from what I usually goes for. Make no mistake though, she is really beautiful, just not my type normally, face-wise. Her body is a dream, with fantastic natural Ds (the website says C, I am not sure.). Action? Well, I wanted, and paid for, kissing. And unfortunately she did not really provide the service, very limited kissing only. Her OWO, on the other hand – I mean lips, was excellent. Cowgirl and mish was ok, but was a bit interrupted when she had to step outside to get more lube. She was easy to talk with, but unfortunately seemed to be pre-occupied with the clock. Maybe she had an appointment, and would not normally act like this, I don’t know. Fin. Damage: 100 (45 min) +20 (Kiss) +20(OWO). Repeat factor: Paula? Probably not, even if she is hot, and maybe she’ll be great for others. Royal? Oh, yes, I will be back. It is a classy place, and the house madam who welcomed me. Damn, she was HOT!

5: Wanted to try something different and found a thai-place on the web, bei Gera ([url]http://www.thaimodelle.de/index.html[/url]), near Hermann Platz. 4 women line-up, I went with Nina. Hot body, great boobs, and average+ face, very friendly. Nice CBJ followed by mish. Very able woman, did not need to change positions before I was "happy". Nice chat followed, and I walked away with a smile on my face. Euro 70 (30-40 min+). Repeat factor: not unlikely!

6: Salon Prestige: Michelle ([url]http://www.top-prestige.de/michelle. Htm[/url]) I had been to Prestige a couple of times before, and walking in I was pretty sure that I could find someone nice. The line-up was a bit limited in numbers (around 4pm), but not limited in eye candy. Went with Michelle, a sweet blonde dream. We got along great immediately, lot of kissing, good OWO, and slow love. (Ok, I know, I know. It’s not really love.) Only 40 minutes, unfortunately: 80 +20 +20 (kissing+OWO), but Elvis left the building a very happy man.

7: So happy in fact that I returned the next day, this time for an hour. Michelle again gave me a very nice time, and I hope to see her again when I go back to Berlin.

Hmmm. Several punting days in Berlin without visiting Kamilla D’s? Yeah, I know, it should not be possible. But I tried! I wanted to see a special someone, who was supposed to be working on the days I was in the city, but I was just unlucky this time and was not able to see her. Will definitely try again the next time I’m in town. If she is not there I know there are many other beauties to see there.

Oh, and one last thing: had some great thai food at this place (several dinners, in fact), close to KaDeWe [url]http://www.suksan.de/[/url]. Wonderful dishes, served in a friendly atmosphere. Highly recommended. Found a nice place for lunch also, on Augsburger Strasse, opposite the Steigenberger Hotel (on the other side of the park/plaza in front of the hotel). Don’t remember the name, but it was an asian restaurant (with a mix of Thai and Chinese dishes). Inexpensive food, and friendly staff.

To finish: Berlin is a wonderful city, for punting and for other activities. Relatively nice prices on hotels, friendly people. Everything is good! Thank you, to the people who contribute to the Berlin-forum, your info is appreciated.

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Hi all.

I'm visiting Berlin next week & would like to go somewhere to have some fun!

Preferably anal sex and blowjobs involved.

Where is the best places to visit (not too costly!)

Many thanks in advance,

Matt.

Any suggestions where to go for cheap and good sex?

Thanks,

Matt

[QUOTE=Matt Al]Any suggestions where to go for cheap and good sex?

Thanks,

Matt[/QUOTE]
.. and taking notes on who has had good experiences and not and how much those sessions cost?

Or better yet go find Angus' excellent, excellent post on what to see and do and in the [i]Bundeshauptstadt[/i]. Here is a link:

[post]776339[/post]

Cheap sessions are easy to find in Berlin on the streets and in the Sexkinos. You will need to know how to negotiate and will need to speak relatively fluent German (or Russian or Polish). It can be very dangerous though. They are hit or miss, as you can imagine. A lot depends on your chemistry with the chick. Be prepared for upsell.

...for the excellent posting on your time in Berlin. Lots of good info there and I will post it in the RoD thread. Always good to see someone using the info here on the Berlin board and then giving back. It is the way it is supposed to work.

I look forward to more postings of you next visit.

And I have to agree with you about Nicky (MR). She is a real porno experience and quite nice once you get to know her. She just loves looking at herself having sex-which is for me also a turn on, And she loves really dirty talk too.

My thanx as well to you Ravein2. Always nice to receive accountable and fresh info. While not a real regular to Berlin nor this board, I do manage two trips a year and have done so for the past six or seven. I too can account for always top notch sessions at Liberty, Prestige, KD and on a few occasions VK. Last year I likewise made my way all the way to the Royal door only to have a nasty looking German cop open the door. He shouted at me something in German but after he saw the bewildered look on my face, he simply said 'raid'. I quickly shuffled back dow the steps (it seemed that they were simply looking for a few girls without proper visas).

In any event, I will be back in Berlin in a few weeks and for four nights. My "to do" list is loaded and most likely will be of little usage (normally the parade is the tell-tail (! ) indicator). I do however plan this time to hit Mon Rouge as their website line-up is primetime. However Ravein2 is the second now to mention (I do believe Angus was the first) that there were only two girls presented during his visit. Is that the norm?

Lastly, if ANYONE can provide a reputable hotel service provider then it is most appreciated. I might ask the folks at Mon Rouge as their prices, while not cheap, are reasonable I believe. I did read Angus' escort report and it does paint a rather bleak escort picture. But with all the talent in Berlin surely there must be a reliable agency or girl at an affordable price. Berlinintim has quite a number of "independents" and many at €100 for an hour visit. The question of course being do you get what you ordered?

Still no one to have visited the Pussy Club? Is it in fact what the locals mean by a PT?

Likewise if anyone has any info on Sexy Candy Shop then I am at your mercy. I saw a nice video with a short promo and it appears nice. Some good looking ladies appear to be had there. And what happend to Bei Mona on Kantstr? It seems to havedisapeared. It's right by my hotel and I found two lovelys that IMHO ought to be visited. Any news?

You have my word fellas that I will report back with my own sins.

The Grand Wazoo

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[QUOTE=The Grand Wazoo]

In any event, I will be back in Berlin in a few weeks and for four nights. My "to do" list is loaded and most likely will be of little usage (normally the parade is the tell-tail (! ) indicator). I do however plan this time to hit Mon Rouge as their website line-up is primetime. However Ravein2 is the second now to mention (I do believe Angus was the first) that there were only two girls presented during his visit. Is that the norm?

Lastly, if ANYONE can provide a reputable hotel service provider then it is most appreciated. I might ask the folks at Mon Rouge as their prices, while not cheap, are reasonable I believe. I did read Angus' escort report and it does paint a rather bleak escort picture. But with all the talent in Berlin surely there must be a reliable agency or girl at an affordable price. Berlinintim has quite a number of "independents" and many at €100 for an hour visit. The question of course being do you get what you ordered?
[/QUOTE]

My feeling is that MR is better to visit in the evening. It is, after all, open until 2:00 am and there are more girls there in the evening. I usually (been there about 5-6 times) book for around 6pm and there seems a better line up at that time.

I have seen Nicky (as Ravein2 mentions very much a PSE/dirty girl) and also Crissy-who is fantastically sexy (IMO)and a good performer but is unfortunately on some sort of extended vacation, and has been since mid July. She is on the English HP but not the German HP.

No direct experience but this girl:

[url]http://www.sexyrita.de/[/url]

has a pretty good rep on the German boards. Trouble being that she is apparently hard to book.

As I have said in my long escort report though, why not go for Berlin's strength-bordellos-and leave the escorts alone. It is almost always a disappointment for me while KD is almost always a good time.

On my recent 4 day trip I visited KD, bei Lust, bei Linda and Club 59.

I had a previous session with Natalie at KD and this time I phoned ahead and made an apointment with her. I was not disappointed. She is not only beatutiful but very well-mannered and wonderful company. She seemed chuffed that I had asked for her and I was very satisfied with the service. As long as Natalie is around she will be a regular for me on my trips.

The other 3 places were all first-time experiences for me. I arrived at bei Lust (aka lustmodelle) at noon. There was a choice of 4. All very good on the eye. I think the girls here are independent I didn't meet any madam. The first girl opened the door and the last one asked me for my choice. I chose Ewa (or Eva). Because of something I saw in her smile. The surroundings were a little basic. The place is fairly small and I didn't have a shower. I had to use my very limited German and I found it hard to explain what I wanted, but with good humour she seemed to understand. Ewa gave me a hand massage beforehand at the washbasin and that was really arousing. The overall experience was very good and I found her company was good. I would go back.

Bei Linda is a little out of town to the south east (although there is a fairly direct train service) and I checked it out because I happened to be in the area. Again it was around midday and the choice was only two. Both quite mature ladies. I could have ledt, however, one of the ladies, Ela, had a good slim figure. In fact she was extremely thin and she had a good smile and I was drawn to her. My instinct proved right. She gave me a real good time. She didn't mind being touched all over and I enjoyed doing that, including fingering her pussy. I complimented her smooth skin and she put this down to a diet of fish and vegetables. Being so thin, she was like a feather on top of me. I finished in missionary and it was god. Facilities were basic. I was able to shower before and after in a separate room. She was keen that I come back and I would consider it on a future trip.

Club 59 is a bar in east Berlin. I turned up around 10 p. M. There were 4 ladies (all very acceptable) and 2 other clients. There was good-humoured conversation between the girls and the lady behind the bar. In fairness, the girls don't solicit the clients, in my experience. Some clients come in, have a drink and leave again without any pressure. The client can choose any girl. I chose Michelle from Poland. The client is asked to buy the lady a piccolo, which costs a minimum of 30 euro (this was 10 euro more than I expected to pay) before going upstairs (50 euro for 30 min). The sex, though satisfactory, was somewhat mechanical. It was all over in less than 20 minutes, partly because I was feeling tired at the end of my 4 day trip. However, I would come back to sample some more ladies. It would be difficult to manage here without some German (or Polish)

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[QUOTE=The Grand Wazoo]Still no one to have visited the Pussy Club? Is it in fact what the locals mean by a PT? [/QUOTE]

I have yet to find an actual report (much discussion though) on either of the German boards I visit regularly, but I did notice that the website now has pictures up of the girls. And lots of then too-girls and pictures.

[url]http://www.pussy-club.eu/berlin/girls.htm[/url]

Not bad IMO.

They all look very EE, hardly a blond amongst them. I hope someone makes a report soon. Likely it will not be me though, as I have said, this sort of thing is not really appealing to me. I am a more private type pooner. But if the reports a really good, maybe,....

On my recent visit over 4 days I went to KD, bei Lust, bei Linda and Club 59. All sessions were for 30 min.

I booked ahead with Natalie at KD, having had a memorable session with her, previously. She remembered me and was chuffed that I asked for her. I think she looks brilliant and I really enjoy her company. She was comfortable with being touched all over and I enjoyed this, especially spending a lot of time pressing her breasts and squeezing them. While deep kissing was not included, we had several firm lip sucks. She was happy to go slowly and gently, which is what I like and I got a very satisfying release. As long as she's around I will be paying return visits.

The other 3 places were all first time visits. I arrived at bei Lust at noon. There were 4 ladies, all quite acceptable in my eye. I think they may be independent - I didn't meet any madam. The first girl opened the door and let me in and the last girl asked for my selection - Ewa (or Eva). Despite having to rely on my limited German, I found her very good company and she instinctlively knew how to please me. I didn't have a shower but she gave me a wet hand massage at the washbasin, and that was really erotic. She promised to learn English for my next visit. I will be happy to go back and visit her again.

bei Linda is out of town, but reasonably well connected by public transport, and I checked it out mainly because I was in the area on another chase that did not work out. It was again midday when I got there. There were only 2 ladies, both very mature. I might have left but something about one of the ladies attracted me - she had an amazingly thin figure, and a nice smile. I chose her (Ela). Again no English, just my German. I had the use of a shower, before and after. Ela's skin is amazingly smooth, which she puts down to her diet of fish and vegetables. I found her very professional in the sense of knowing how to please a man and very friendly, overcoming my language difficulties. Again, she was happy to be touched all over and allowed me to finger her pussy and seemed to enjoy that, as I did. In the first position, she was on top with my penis in the space betweenh her legs. This proved very erotic. We finished in missionary, my favourite and it was very satisfying. She was keen for me to pay a return visit, and I think I would.

Club 59 is a bar in the east of Berlin. There were 4 ladies, apart from the bar-tender. There were two other clients when I arrived at 10 p.m. and another dropped in for a drink and left. There was a good cameraderie among the girls and with the clients. Of course, it was all in German, and much of it was over my head. In fairness, they don't pressurise the clients - one can come in, look around, have a few drinks at normal prices and leave without any questions asked. Another good thing, the client can choose any girl. I chose Michelle from Poland. The client has to buy his girl a piccolo - minimum cost 30 euro, which was 10 euro more than I had expected. While she drank that, we had some small talk, which tested my German. We then went upstairs to the room, which was fairly nicely decorated, and had 2 mirrors. The sex, though satisfying, was kind of perfunctory. I felt that she wanted to get it over with quickly. This club would not be top of my list, but I sensed a nice atmosphere and would go back to try some of the other girls.

Berlin maintains its position in my mind as the best place for paid sex.

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Hi all,

has anyone tried this one here?
[url]http://www.heisse-pinupgirls.de/UntitledFrameset-1.html[/url]

Anna, Latvian Blonde working at the Pin-Up Girls Club, which is located opposite of Hase.

Reports are welcome.

Thanks and Cheers,
The AF

[QUOTE=The AF]Hi all,

has anyone tried this one here?
[url]http://www.heisse-pinupgirls.de/UntitledFrameset-1.html[/url]

Anna, Latvian Blonde working at the Pin-Up Girls Club, which is located opposite of Hase.

Reports are welcome.

Thanks and Cheers,
The AF[/QUOTE]

This is the same location as the old Lulu Babys (I think that was the name) and in the same Hof as Freudenhaus. I dropped in once and left as I was not impressed with the line up.

As for Anna-no direct experience but I have read a reasonably good report on the German boards regarding her. In fact she is loosely on my list of ladies I would like to see eventually. The location is just a little far off the beaten track for me.

Please do post a report if you do see her.

What are the largest sex kinos? (in terms of theater size or number of girls)

[QUOTE=Shekwan]What are the largest sex kinos? (in terms of theater size or number of girls)[/QUOTE]


Kino's are by their nature usually quite small. I have not been to many but the biggest I have been to is Elisa's on Blissestr. It has two cinemas-one smoking, one non-smoking. Unless this had changed due to the new-ish Berlin anti-smoking laws.

[url]http://www.sexkino-berlin.de/index.php?page=home[/url]

You will find a short report in my Berlin guide which can be found in the Reports of Distinction thread.

Just got back from a short visit to Berlin and thought I would post my first review. I was staying at the Motel One near near the Zoo (great location and price by the way) and so was within walking distance to some of the places that I had read about on this board.

The first day I wab not up to much so decided to go for a massage at Thailin [url]http://www.thaimassage-berlin.info/thaimassage-berlin-team-thailin.html[/url]. I am not able to speak German but that proved to be no problem as the girl was able to communicate with sign language. Good massage, but no body-to-body, however, she did give me the universial sign of handjob and took her up on the offer: all-in-all 50.00 Euros well spent.

Nest night I walked to Liberty. Nice place with a friendly staff. About six girls available and I chose Lucy ([url]http://www.libertyberlin.de/lucy.htm[/url]). Fabulous choice -- beautiful girl, friendly and fun: started with 69, light kissing, doggy and then CIM. Would have lived to have spent more time with her and intended to return the next day but work got in the way.

Instead, the next day I ended up at Spiritual Tantra Lounge for a 2 hour session with Connie ([url]http://www.tantra-massagen-berlin.de/Team_en.html[/url]). She is the first girl in the picture. Very professional massage with a wonderful release but fairly expensive so I think it is a one time thing. Still, a nice experiance.

All-in-all loved Berlin

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I had a nice visit with Denise from [url]http://www.love-angels-berlin.de/denise.html[/url]

She arrived on time and I found her more attractive than her pictures. She does have a slight lisp but she has a great personality and was very sweet. $120 EU for the hour. Money well spent.

I would highly recommend her.

[url]http://www.mandalamassage.de/erotikmasseurin.html[/url]

I had great time with Katja from Mandala. She had blonde hair, not brunett as in the picture.

150 EU for the 1 1/2 massage. I don't think they are full service but I was happy with the ending.

[url]http://www.love-angels-berlin.de/isabelle.html[/url]

I saw Isabelle last week.

She arrived on time and is as advertised. A sweet girl with a great ass. I got a deal at 100 EU for 1 hour massage and cbj.

She is customer service oriented and anyone who takes he will not be disappointed.

Enjoy!

I am not sure who I had...names were hard to understand and there no pics on their website. [url]http://www.yoko-massagen.de/team.php[/url]

The girls there are not spectacular. I would say 5 - 7's is all I saw.

The service was very good though! Great massage and you can choose your ending. Girl is nude and I was a bit uncomfortable during some of the body to body I had to manuever myself to keep from "going in". I think this happened to someone else though from their report. I'm not a fan of this.

Other than tha I would highly recommend them. Definite pros who know how to get rid of stress!

100 EU for the hour....no clock watching.

[url]http://www.tantrazentrum.de/indx2.html[/url]

They just redid their website so I can't say for sure the names of the two girls I had (two different times).

They both were very good and provided a great 1 3/4 tantra massage. HJ only here but the actual tantra massage was great! 140 EU for the 1 3/4 which I found to be good value.

After so many visits to Artemis I feel a little bit curious to taste something new in the world of FKK. Because Angus and the otther colleagues gave me excellent guidelines when I was a newbie, I'm going to ask you about La Folie.

Is it worthwhile spending there my time during my next visit? Which is the average and quality of girls? Any other suggestions.

Thanks in advance. Obviously I'm used to share detailed reports.

El Kapitain,

Thanx for the reports. As I am looking for a dependable outcall service next week could you please elaborate a bit on your dates with the Love Angels' girls. Namely:

*How did the contact work with the agency? Phone a few hours before your meeting? An email a few days prior? A call in the morning? You get my driff...

*Did the agency speak English?

*Were the girls pictures and services accurate?

*Since I do not find any prices on their website and considering you paid different sums to two different girls, how were the fees negotiated? At the time of order or in the room?

*Did the girls try any upsell? Stay the alloted time? Good company or was it a 'hit and run'?

*So you can recommend this agency as reliable?

*Any more specifics is greatly appreciated.

Thanks in adavnce,

The Grand Wazoo

[QUOTE=Zipron]After so many visits to Artemis I feel a little bit curious to taste something new in the world of FKK. Because Angus and the otther colleagues gave me excellent guidelines when I was a newbie, I'm going to ask you about La Folie.

Is it worthwhile spending there my time during my next visit? Which is the average and quality of girls? Any other suggestions.

Thanks in advance. Obviously I'm used to share detailed reports.[/QUOTE]

You will find my opinion of La Folie in my Berlin Guide (Clubs/Kino etc.) which can be easily found in the Reports of Distinction thread.

Briefly-not good.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]You will find my opinion of La Folie in my Berlin Guide (Clubs/Kino etc.) which can be easily found in the Reports of Distinction thread.

Briefly-not good.[/QUOTE]Thank you Angus. You are always well descriptive and clear, a great fellow.

Next week I'll redirect to Artemis once again. I wonder helping you as you did.

To the next

[QUOTE=The Grand Wazoo]El Kapitain,

Thanx for the reports. As I am looking for a dependable outcall service next week could you please elaborate a bit on your dates with the Love Angels' girls. Namely:

*How did the contact work with the agency? Phone a few hours before your meeting? An email a few days prior? A call in the morning? You get my driff...
Called about an hour prior.

*Did the agency speak English?

Guy answers and his English is very good.

*Were the girls pictures and services accurate?

Very accurate. I would say Denise is even better than her photos IMO

*Since I do not find any prices on their website and considering you paid different sums to two different girls, how were the fees negotiated? At the time of order or in the room?

Prices are on the website. Bascially I think it is 90EU or 120EU depending on level of girl (love angel vs deluxe love angel).

*Did the girls try any upsell? Stay the alloted time? Good company or was it a 'hit and run'?

Good company from sweet girls. There may be "extras" for bbbj, anal, etc but I did not get into any of that.

*So you can recommend this agency as reliable?

I would reommend them as reliable.

*Any more specifics is greatly appreciated.

Give them a try...I would be surprised if you were disappointed.

Thanks in adavnce,

The Grand Wazoo[/QUOTE]Good luck!

Hi Guys,

...coming to Berlin later this month and always enjoy an outcall to the hotel for some variation - Does anyone have experience with this agency?

[url]http://www.escort-desire.de[/url]

Girls look nice - but maybe too nice for the price...?

Any feedback (esp from german speakers who might have seen other info) is welcomed.

[QUOTE=El Kapitan]Good luck![/QUOTE]Great answer

Oh yeah and my sincere thanks.

I might add that this board is genuinely sincere, reliable and heathy. A similar board dedicated to our hobby in my country is quite simply a band of bantering and name calling.

Got give Angus and you others the props deserved for relaying good and often entertaining info.

The Grand Wazoo

[QUOTE=Bubba999]Hi Guys,

...coming to Berlin later this month and always enjoy an outcall to the hotel for some variation - Does anyone have experience with this agency?

[url]http://www.escort-desire.de[/url]

Girls look nice - but maybe too nice for the price...?

Any feedback (esp from german speakers who might have seen other info) is welcomed.[/QUOTE]

I posted about this some months back,

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=777398&postcount=1007[/url]

though the agency was then called La Diva Escorts. But it is the same place with the same girls as this agency:

[url]http://www.intimer-escort.de/[/url]

The one girl, who is on both the web site you posted

[url]http://www.escort-desire.de/foto-berlin/cameliaphoto-en.htm[/url]

and intimer escort

[url]http://www.intimer-escort.de/girls/nadia/index.html[/url]

Has photos that are two years old by the date stamps on the photos.

[url]http://www.intimer-escort.de/girls/nadia/galerie/6.jpg[/url]

This rings alarm bells for me. I would not go near this agency. I smell a bait & switch.

But if you do decide to book a session, please do write a report.

babsi and juliana both @ kd

first off this was not a duo experience but two similar girls i saw in the past month at kd.

babsi was a new girl, no web pic (actually she now has pictures, see below) but the description sounded nice. upon meeting her i was a bit surprised at her, how to say, size. she is a big girl-tall and with much meat on the bone. not my usual type at all. but i decided to go through with it anyway but just a half hour session.

babsi was, quite obviously, a beginner in the trade. she told me that she was from a small town and this was her second day in berlin and at kd. her inexperience was both a bit of a turn on and a bit of a drag.

most notable from the session was that babsi asked right at the beginning if i wanted a condom. i was taken back and said of course. i then realized that she was just asking about the bj and i quickly changed my answer to-no condom needed.

now, by all reports i have ever read there is no such thing as a bbbj at kd. and here was this girl offering it to me quite casually, and at no extra cost to the 80€ half hour fee. to bad that it was such a lousy bj....

the sex was not much better. i am not sure if it was her lack of experience or my basic disinterest in the girl but the sex just did not work between us. so i peeled off the condom and asked for more (toothy) bj. this was not really working either so i finally had the poor girl diddle herself while i watched and did the same. when i was hard agin and a few minutes away form the end i hopped up and stuck little a in her mouth once more telling her to open wide and hold still while i fucked her face. finally something worked and soon i came pretty deep in her mouth. nice!

after the spit & clean up she was all business again and soon i was ringing the bell for the hausdame and on my way down the stairs into the night.

all in all not a great session but save by the unexpected cim at the end.

juliana

juliana has a photo on the web site which i found appealing.

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/juliane-e.htm[/url]

when i met her though she was also a bit bigger than expected. now while babsi i would say is just shy of a bbw, juliana is simply a tall girl with a very womanly figure. if that is your thing you will love her. she also has a sort of plain but pretty look to her.

again i decided to go through with the session and i was glad i did as the session was quite good despite her being not my usual type of girl physically. her bj was above average. no teeth and absolutely no hands were used and she went very deep, just shy of deep throat i would say. btw-the bj was, as per usual at kd, covered.

no kissing ( i did not try) but other than that she was very responsive to breast play (beautiful soft, pillowy breasts) and pussy licking. the fucking was a bit awkward for some reason but after a while we hit a good rhythm and it was quite enjoyable, especially in doggy which she seemed to enjoy most of all.

i had a nice time with juliana but not spectacular. with both girls is is very doubtful that i would repeat as neither are really the physical type i prefer.

now just a comment on the issue of weight as stated on the website. with both these girls the website states a weight. juliana (on the german page) says kg 36/38. babsi, who now has pictures i noticed:

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/frames_e.htm[/url]

, says 40 kg. neither of these girls is any where near that weight in reality. i would say juliana is closer to 65/68 kg and babsi is probably 75 +. has any one else noticed such blatant discrepancies in the stated weights of kd girls?

the pictures of babsi are not accurate i am sorry to have to say.

i do plan on mentioning this to the hausdame next time i visit kd and see what they have to say. i mean i don’t mind if a girl shaves off a few kg in her description but 20 + kgs. is a bit much imo.

or am i missing something here. does kg stand for something else (dress size?) other than kilograms?

Thanks Angus and apologies for not finding your earlier post - I did search on the website address but nothing came up....

I also recognize a woman from Hamburg who also works as a private under a different name ....if I do call them, I'll post ....but if the Aussie dollar drops much further, the only action I'll be having on my visit is with Frau Palm and her five daughters!

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I posted about this some months back,

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=777398&postcount=1007[/url]:

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Babsi and Juliana both @ KD

Or am I missing something here. Does KG stand for something else (dress size?) other than Kilograms?[/QUOTE]

I think you are absolutely right that it stands for dress size (Konfektions Grösse i think?). I would be surprised if KD would play down the girls weight by 20+ kilograms, but ok, it's been a couple of years since my last visit.

[QUOTE=Bubba999]Thanks Angus and apologies for not finding your earlier post - I did search on the website address but nothing came up....

I also recognize a woman from Hamburg who also works as a private under a different name ....if I do call them, I'll post ....but if the Aussie dollar drops much further, the only action I'll be having on my visit is with Frau Palm and her five daughters!

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I posted about this some months back,

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=777398&postcount=1007[/url]:[/QUOTE]

No worries mate. I am always willing to answer specific questions with what I know. And I do know this thread & the Berlin P4P scene pretty well at this point. I also know that the search function is not that good as it tells you if something is posted upon a subject but not where. And perhaps it does not work with web addresses?

Again, regarding the web site you ask about. When I look at my suspicion it is really not based upon anything except the smallest of bits of evidence and I guess a hunch-gut feeling. Something just does not sit right with me there. And the pictures on Intimer escort-I mean-if you can't even be smart enough to remove or smudge out the date stamp on two year old pictures, how good can the service possibly be?

Perhaps you will be lucky and the Haut-nah team (bitchclub) will be back from their vacation sometime before you arrive. This agency I can whole heartedly recommend. And maybe they will bring some fresh talent this time.

I am hopeful.

Also-regarding Love Angels. I have had, I think, two experiences with this agency and both times were, I have to say, quite good. The logistics were well handled and the girls were as advertised and gave good service. Once I even ordered the girl sight unseen on the recommendation of the phone guy and I was happy with the girl who showed up.

So as other posters have mentioned, this agency is not one to ignore completely. I think they are a decent and reliable operation.

I posted a short review of her a few weeks back and have been back to see her a couple times since. I thought it note worthy to add here that this girl is quite talented when it comes to giving head. I did not notice this so much the first time I was with her but on the second visit I was very, very happy with the covered bj I received. So much so that I returned for a bbbjcim (FT) and was not disappointed. She has a very soft technique but knows when to increase pressure and tempo. With her FT I actually came in her mouth with no hand assist at all which these days is quite a rare event for me. And at the end she did not just immediately stop, jump up and head for the sink. Rather she kept working little A until he was all quieted down and feeling very comfy.

It was a 4 star (out of 5-no real DT) bj.

The only caveat is that she is quite a serious girl and takes some pampering (and maybe repeat visits?) for her to warm up. But when she does she is well worth her fee IMO.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Babsi and Juliana both @ KD
Or am I missing something here. Does KG stand for something else (dress size?) other than Kilograms?[/QUOTE]

A German 40 = UK14 or US12

That doesn't mean to say they won't still shave a few sizes off in the interests of modesty.
But dress size is no real measure of a woman, better is the full vital statistics, next is someone's recommendation, and best is having a look for yourself first.

[QUOTE=Puff Time]A German 40 = UK14 or US12

That doesn't mean to say they won't still shave a few sizes off in the interests of modesty.
But dress size is no real measure of a woman, better is the full vital statistics, next is someone's recommendation, and best is having a look for yourself first.[/QUOTE]

Thank you. I was really suspecting that something was off here-and it was my understanding of KG.

Makes much more sense.

Regarding Babsi-I wanted to just add that she was quite a sweet girl, just inexperienced and rather larger than I like. I am sure that she would make someone quite happy and with maybe a little instruction in the art of bj could be pretty good.

First off, thanks for all of the posts on this board.

1st experience:

I just returned from Berlin and after much research on here I decided to go to KD. I went around 1:30 on Wednesday and I was greeted by an attractive blonde Hausmutti. Her English was rather good and she informed me that there were 6 women to choose from. When the girls come in, they only say their name, shake your hand, and leave. As this was my first time there and not being able to speak more than basic German, I wanted an English-speaking lady. Unfortunately, I can't remember all of the choices, but the tallest was Natalie. Being 5'8", her height interested me for whatever reason. Before she ran out, I asked if she spoke English, and she said, "a little", so I chose her.

After a quick shower, I was lead to my room and within three seconds all she was wearing was a pair of pink pumps. Natalie has blonde hair, I would guess she was 5’11" without the shoes, her breasts appeared and felt real to me, and she appeared to be a little older than I am. I asked how tall she was and she thought I asked how old she was and I am pretty sure she said 31. After a short massage, she gave me a few minutes of oral, and then wanted to get into sex. I would have liked more oral, but I can’t blame anyone for not wanting to suck on a non-flavored condom. She was eager to do any position I wanted and even switched to a few herself. Due to the fact that I was nervous, as I always tend to be in a new venue, I only lasted about 20 minutes into my 30-minute session. She closed me out with a nice back rub and we called it a day.

2nd experience:

I went back to KD that Friday around 4pm. Apparently this is not a good time to go as either it is busy or there aren’t as many women there. Aphrodite answered the door and asked if I’d like to see the girls. I said yes and there were 3 choices. One of the women looked like a younger version of the blonde from CSI Las Vegas and she spoke perfect English. I would have went for her, but Aphrodite was the hottest woman I had seen during my entire trip to Germany and when she asked which girl I wanted, I asked if it was ok to pick her. I was unaware as to if she was on a break and that is why she was answering the door or what, but she said it was ok. Aphrodite is Russian, really tall, really fit, and has the lightest colored nipples I have ever seen in my life. She gave good oral and was happy to do it for as long as I wanted. I lost count of how many positions we did, but needless to say she gave great service. After we were finished, she claimed to be overheated and tired. Also, she claimed we had finished just in time. I don't know as to what would have happened if we went over. Considering what these women do and how often they do it, I will never believe that they truly enjoy it with any of their clients. The fact that I wore her out made me feel pretty good about myself though. A different Hausmutti, a brunette with a number of facial piercings, let me out and I happily strolled back to the U-bahn.

Notes:

The blonde Hausmutti is very cute and it is a damned shame she is only there to let people in.

The girls seem to understand a British accent more so than an American accent, so you could try to fake being British and have them understand you more. The trade off there is I have heard that Germans tend to dislike the British more than Americans.

If you are very shy, this place may not be for you as there is a currywurst stand right outside of it where people are often eating. The building appears to be like any other apartment building, but it still can be a bit disconcerting to some.

The girls at KD did not try to up sell. They ask you if you have any questions and if you don’t, they assume standard service. Everything seems really clean and they were nice enough to return a watch I inadvertently left in the restroom.

If you are faced with the choice between Natalie and Aphrodite, I would say go for Aphrodite unless you prefer a girl who whispers pillow talk in German. Aphrodite is very quiet and seems more into making eye contact and smiling.

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[QUOTE=Dirk2112]First off, thanks for all of the posts on this board.[/QUOTE]

Thank you for posting. We need more info on the various KD girls so such posts as this are always welcomed.

On the basis of you report I think Aphrodite will so receive a visit from me.

AM

Angus,

From time to time you refer to stuff you've read on the German forums.

My German is adequate (+). Would you mind posting a couple of links plz to those forums you feel make worthwhile reading.

Thx,

Charlie

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Thank you for posting. We need more info on the various KD girls so such posts as this are always welcomed.

On the basis of you report I think Aphrodite will so receive a visit from me.

AM[/QUOTE]Well I hope you enjoy her as much as I did.

Angus, since you are the expert on this. I was wondering if you could tell me what happens if you do go over your time. Seeing as how you pay beforehand, does the woman expect you to stop and get more money or does she tell you that you owe more when you are through? I never brought much more than what I wanted to pay and after a bad experience in Amsterdam, I'd prefer to know the general rule in case I ever go back.

[QUOTE=Dirk2112]Well I hope you enjoy her as much as I did.

Angus, since you are the expert on this. I was wondering if you could tell me what happens if you do go over your time. Seeing as how you pay beforehand, does the woman expect you to stop and get more money or does she tell you that you owe more when you are through? I never brought much more than what I wanted to pay and after a bad experience in Amsterdam, I'd prefer to know the general rule in case I ever go back.[/QUOTE]


This depends on a few variables.

You will never (as far as I know and I really think I can say never here without risk) be asked for more money as a surprise at the end-in a bordello. At an FKK (i.e. Artemis) you may well be expected to pay for another 1/2 hr. if you go over. There is discussion on this and how to avoid it in the FKK threads.

But at a bordello, usually and especially at the lower end places, someone (the Hausdame) will give a knock on the door to let you know time is up. Then, the girl will either let you finish-or not depending upon the girl and I guess your rapport with her. At Liberty, which is IMO a nicer place but they do tend to watch the schedule especially when they are busy and need the rooms, I have experienced this and I had several minutes to finish. That is the girl I was with told me not to worry and we carried on fucking until I came. The clean up was though a bit hurried.

Now at KD, and this is one of the reasons that I sing praises of the place, you may go over time sometimes by quite a bit of time. Many times on hour long visits I have noticed that my time has gone over by as much as 20 minutes. I even in these incidences pointed out to the girl that we were over and was told not to worry. Mind though tht by this time we were no longer having sex, that was finished, rather we were just hanging out and talking/laughing/having some fun-you know pillow talk.

The half hour visits tend to be more precise with the time. Especially when you have no particular resonance with the girl. On the other hand, even on a half hour visit I have been over time by more than 10 minutes and that was okay.

So I can say confidently that if you hit it off with a girl at KD, and she wants to go over, you can do so without problem and certainly without fear of being asked for more money. Just as matter of politeness, and keeping things clear (which I think the girls appreciate and this helps in building rapport), I do recommend though that you let them know that you are aware of the time. And If they say not to worry then do not worry. It is up to them to keep things on track as it is part of their job.

If you do decide to book another 1/2 hour or hour I would be surprised at KD if the girl insisted upon you stopping to fish out the cash. If you become a regular with a girl she will sometimes not ask for money until the end anyway. One time I was half way down the stairs leaving when I suddenly realized that I still had the fee in my pocket. We had both forgot the financial aspect of things. I had to turn around and go back and ring the bell again. My ego was very happy that day! and the girl very grateful that I had come back.

[QUOTE=Charlie 123]Angus,

From time to time you refer to stuff you've read on the German forums.

My German is adequate (+). Would you mind posting a couple of links plz to those forums you feel make worthwhile reading.

Thx,

Charlie[/QUOTE]


Here you go. These are the two I visit:

[url]http://www.rotlicht-modelle.de/forum/index.php?[/url]
[url]http://www.ich-steh-auf-sex.de/phpBB2/index.php[/url]

I think that you have to sign up (not sure of this) but it is free and a fairly easy process.

I find the reviews on these boards often quite difficult to read. Often I think that the lauguage used is very slang-y. But with the help of a translator website I can usually get the gist of a review and whether or not it was generally a good experience. I also find them useful in finding new websites etc.

There are some others (I know of at least one) but you have to use an "age checker" to access. As far as I can se this is just a way of extracting some cash from you as you need to use a credit card and pay a fee to prove that you are over 18-what BS. I refuse to be a party to that.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Here you go. These are the two I visit:

[url]http://www.rotlicht-modelle.de/forum/index.php?[/url]
[url]http://www.ich-steh-auf-sex.de/phpBB2/index.php[/url]

I think that you have to sign up (not sure of this) but it is free and a fairly easy process.

I find the reviews on these boards often quite difficult to read. Often I think that the lauguage used is very slang-y. But with the help of a translator website I can usually get the gist of a review and whether or not it was generally a good experience. I also find them useful in finding new websites etc.

There are some others (I know of at least one) but you have to use an "age checker" to access. As far as I can se this is just a way of extracting some cash from you as you need to use a credit card and pay a fee to prove that you are over 18-what BS. I refuse to be a party to that.[/QUOTE]
... you can also try:

[url]www.roemerforum.com[/url]

It has general information on activity everywhere in Germany.

It is more slanted towards the [i]Umgangsprache[/i] so you will find that the language used does not correspond to textbook German.

There is also the matter of the Roman references. This all relates to the guys obsession with [i]Asterix et Obelix[/i].

[QUOTE=Dirk2112]After we were finished, she claimed to be overheated and tired. Also, she claimed we had finished just in time. I don't know as to what would have happened if we went over. Considering what these women do and how often they do it, I will never believe that they truly enjoy it with any of their clients. The fact that I wore her out made me feel pretty good about myself though.[/QUOTE]

I do not believe this to be true at all. Especially if you chose girls who do not appear on the schedule that much (i.e. part timers) and act like a gentleman, showing the girls respect, I find that the girls often enjoy their time with me.

Of course, due to the financial aspect, there may be a question in your mind as to how genuine they are being. But I know that some of the girls (all the girls I repeat with in fact)I see are truly glad to see me when I show up and they enjoy our time together.

I guess it comes down to how you feel about paying for sex. If there is a question in your mind about you "having" to pay for sex then It may color your attitude towards the girl "having" to have sex with you-because you pay. I find it useful to see that, yes, you are paying her to fuck you, but with in that frame work she can still have a good time.

I know that in my job sometimes I am "just doing it for the money" and sometimes I am truly enjoying myself. Being paid seems like a bonus. I see no reason why a professional girl can not also experience it this way. As mentioned above, seeing part time girls raises the chances of a girl being more relaxed about in my opinion-but not always.

I see also that this opens up a whole philosophical avenue about work and how we have set things up socially not to encourage people to find and do what they love to do as opposed to "just doing it for the money". In this respect many of us are prostituting ourselves in order to live, not just the girls/women who sleep with men for cash.

In my own vision of the world, that is the way I would like it to work, we would set things up so that people are given the space to be confused and flail about for a time trying and doing things just to see if they like doing them. They would not be forced by economic forces to decide quickly what they want to do for work and then spend the rest of their lives feeding the economic engines.

Perhaps this is a bit utopian and one could also argue that it is the responsibility of the individual to find out what it is that they love and do it. But I kind of feel that as a society we could be a bit more encouraging of this. We would have a happier population then and happy people would probably be more productive in the end.

[QUOTE=Jackyo]... you can also try:

[url]www.roemerforum.com[/url]

It has general information on activity everywhere in Germany.

It is more slanted towards the [i]Umgangsprache[/i] so you will find that the language used does not correspond to textbook German.

There is also the matter of the Roman references. This all relates to the guys obsession with [i]Asterix et Obelix[/i].[/QUOTE]

Thanks. I will give it a try. I used to love Asterix&Obelix when I was a child. I must admit though to being a bit puzzeled as to how that could relate to P4P...

I guess I'll have to have a look and find out.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I know that in my job sometimes I am "just doing it for the money" and sometimes I am truly enjoying myself. Being paid seems like a bonus. I see no reason why a professional girl can not also experience it this way. As mentioned above, seeing part time girls raises the chances of a girl being more relaxed about in my opinion-but not always.[/QUOTE]Thanks for answering my question. I do prefer the ladies that aren't clock watchers and you seem to have good luck finding those.

As for your comments about work, I agree with you to a point. I often enjoy my job and the people that work there. Would I often show up if I wasn't getting paid or if I was getting paid a lot less? No!

With the professional women, if they truly enjoyed their time with you, they would seek more time with you in a non-professional settings. The coworkers I really like, I do hang out with outside of work. You may be their favorite customer and they may look forward to servicing you because you are a swell guy and you treat them right, but at the same time you are a customer.

If your goal is to be one of their favorite customers, you sound like you have accomplished that and congratulations. If you are hoping to give them a BFE (boy friend experience) on the first go with any woman, you will be sadly mistaken. I tend to prefer trying a new girl each time, so I hold no illusion as to the possibility of pleasing them. Since you seem to prefer going with providers you like time and time again, perhaps you could work your way into their hearts and lives. I don't know if you'd want to though as her job and her past could cause some issues.

I agree that we are all *****s at work and we all can fall in love with a coworker/client. I just think it will take in this instance, a lot more sessions than I am willing to put in for any one girl to truly enjoy herself with me.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Thanks. I will give it a try. I used to love Asterix&Obelix when I was a child. I must admit though to being a bit puzzeled as to how that could relate to P4P...

I guess I'll have to have a look and find out.[/QUOTE]
... started out as a joke on a former German language forum which was up and running about a decade ago (Yep, I've been following this topic on the Internet for about that long.)

Then the guys got into it and it just kind of took off: hence, the Roman references on the RF.

Newbies are always puzzled why the guys refer to themselves as Legionaires, Senators, etc..., have names which end with the suffix "-ix" and greet each other with "Ave!".

Very few of them actually speak any Latin.

There are, by the way, regional fora which are affiliated with the RF. I haven't checked to see if there is one which is specific to Berlin. I'll take a look and report back.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
...
Now at KD, and this is one of the reasons that I sing praises of the place, you may go over time sometimes by quite a bit of time. Many times on hour long visits I have noticed that my time has gone over by as much as 20 minutes. I even in these incidences pointed out to the girl that we were over and was told not to worry. Mind though tht by this time we were no longer having sex, that was finished, rather we were just hanging out and talking/laughing/having some fun-you know pillow talk.

The half hour visits tend to be more precise with the time. Especially when you have no particular resonance with the girl. On the other hand, even on a half hour visit I have been over time by more than 10 minutes and that was okay.

So I can say confidently that if you hit it off with a girl at KD, and she wants to go over, you can do so without problem and certainly without fear of being asked for more money. Just as matter of politeness, and keeping things clear (which I think the girls appreciate and this helps in building rapport), I do recommend though that you let them know that you are aware of the time. And If they say not to worry then do not worry. It is up to them to keep things on track as it is part of their job.

If you do decide to book another 1/2 hour or hour I would be surprised at KD if the girl insisted upon you stopping to fish out the cash. If you become a regular with a girl she will sometimes not ask for money until the end anyway. One time I was half way down the stairs leaving when I suddenly realized that I still had the fee in my pocket. We had both forgot the financial aspect of things. I had to turn around and go back and ring the bell again. My ego was very happy that day! and the girl very grateful that I had come back.[/QUOTE]

I agree with Angus.
Just for information : based on my own experience, there is a short break that the lady used to inform the "receptionist" that she stayed longer than expected (initially paid); but, if you "booked" a lady for a private meeting (called "escort"), she does not have to do it (so no break).

Hi,

A few words deriving from my trip to Berlin earlier this week:

Tuesday

Went to Monrouge in the evening. On my previous occasion with Jasmin we agreed that next time she would ‘bring a friend’. So …

[url]http://www.monrouge.de/jasmin.html[/url]
[url]http://www.monrouge.de/nicky.html[/url]

This was a really fun little session. Jasmin and I get on well anyway; Nicky was an enthusiastic and sexy addition to the party. The girls took turns to administer nice sloppy deep throat BBBJ’s whilst I tucked into their gorgeous bodies. Nicky was a pleasant surprise, very sexy in a slutty sort of way – a little bit mechanical and polished for those who like the ‘GFE’ illusion, but perfect for the scenario I had in mind.

Cost was 240E (70E + 50E for FT, apiece) – expensive but worth it as a highly undeserved treat to myself. I would do this again sometime, but extend for an hour. I will see Nicky again solo at some time in the future, that is for sure

I have had about 5 girls at Monrouge, and multiple sessions with Jasmin, and I can echo previous commendations on this forum without reservation. The girls are all stunning, they all perform well and are pleasant and easy to get on with. A really good bordello, with not buts – highly recommended.

Wednesday

It was 10 pm by the time I was ready to play, which meant that a few of the places on my shortlist were closed. I ended heading over to Wilmersdorf to Tomsen to see Soraya:

[url]http://www.bundesallee128.de/html/modelle.php[/url]

This was an altogether less happy experience than yesterday’s. I called in advance to confirm that she and Tanja were both free, but arrived to be told that they were both busy and only Kim (new girl) was available. Kim proved to be decidedly unattractive, so I elected to go for a walk and return 10 minutes later when Soraya would be ready. When I got back I had to wait a further 20 minutes before Soraya finally emerged.

Soraya is a really pretty girl, better in the flesh than in the web photos. We agreed 110E for 40 minutes with FO and Gesichtsbesamung (CIF). We started OK with some nice soft BBBJ, but then she started to whine that she didn’t like the taste, and how much she dislikes BBBJ etc etc. We fucked a little, and to her credit she was a keen accomplice, but for me the spell had been broken and I eventually broke off our session before my time was up, without ‘finishing’. I ended up re-visiting one of my dependable ‘regulars’ with the usual reliable result.

Sometimes it just doesn’t click with a girl. It’s part of the risk of the game, for both the punter and the girl. I wouldn’t necessarily seek to dissuade anyone from visiting Soraya, unless you are an oral junkie, in which case she’s probably not the one for you.

Thursday

Free until lunchtime, thus affording a rare opportunity to sample from the ‘morning shift’. Having been entertained by a dozen cracking-looking girls in my last few visits, I had a hankering for something ‘rougher’ – either the skanky look, or perhaps someone a bit older. In keeping with my recent policy of trying new places, I went to Celine69 with a shortlist a 2 or 3 particular girls in mind. I chose a Polish girl called Isabell, in her mid 30’s at least, with a pleasant disposition but quite heavily-built. I cannot quite decide if the photos on the website actually correspond to this girl or not – if so, then they are probably old pics or taken from a pretty flattering angle:

[url]http://www.celine-69.de/isabell.html[/url]

30 minutes with BBBJ and CIF was quoted as 105E. Isabell was a really good blow-job artist, and gave me a really nice slow BJ. These slightly older gals can usually be relied upon to deliver oral in a more pleasurable and unhurried manner. She brought me off in her mouth, so I missed out on my CIF, but I was pretty happy with the session notwithstanding.

I will go again to Celine’s, but not with Isabell. There were a number of other girls there that I fancied – mostly Polish and ‘dirty’-looking. I’m sure that a very wide range of services can be obtained at this bordello, particularly from a hot little number called Lola who was there today.

Cheers,

Charlie

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Many thanks for the report Charlie 123. Very informative with good intel packed into a concise report. I have posted it to the RoD thread to be sure.

AM

[url]http://www.monrouge.de/modelle/adriana.html[/url]

I have to agree with Charlie about the quality of girls and sessions at Mon Rouge. While the selection can be a bit thin during the day I have found that I receive a pretty consistent level of service at this bordello. As a bonus they do have an unadvertised special day rate that can make it a very good deal. Book before 4:00 pm (16:00 hrs.) Monday-Friday, and you pay 100€ for an hour session. Plus what ever extras you decide to add on-which can admittedly drive up the price.

So last week with a day off I booked Adriana for a 3:00 pm session. My first impression was that this girl is visually pretty much perfect. Small with a nice curvy figure and absolutely perfect set of smallish, but round breasts-totally unsupported they stand up to perfection (a word that you might get tired of hearing when I describe her...). Her nipples are also...well...perfect. They seemed to be permanently erect when I was with her. Maybe it was just her excitement at being with ol’Angus Magee;-).

I booked the hour special so I paid 100€ plus an extra 20€ for “forspiel ohne”, that’s bbbj without cim. Though it says on the Bordello Berlin web page that she offers FT (bbbjcim) I was assured by her that she does not offer the cim part. Schade!

But still the session was good, not spectacular but definitely good. As I mentioned her body is just the best. Her only flaw I would say is a slight skin condition on the face, but with the lights down low it is hardly noticeable and not something that horny old Angus would concern himself with.

I was offered and took a shower and then was joined on the big bed by this vision of loveliness. She is open to being licked but fingers are, while not off limit, limited. She did warm up to some fingering later in the session but very gently and not what I would call deep fingering.

Her bj was good but again not top notch. She has the soft gentle part down to a “T”. If she could learn when and how to increase pressure and tempo her bj would be tops. She was quite okay with me removing her hands and gently fucking her face, the key word being gentle as she seems to be a very soft girl, not up for hard face fucking.

The sex itself was for me the only disappointment in the session, You know when everything seems perfect but the sex is just somehow awkward. It was like we just did not fit together . Maybe her pussy was just a little dry (she had no lube) or the angles were wrong, or maybe she just wasn’t that into it....anyway it just never seemed to reach a good rhythm in any position. Finally doggy worked best and it wasn’t long before I finished staring down at and working her incredible ass.

After was a fairly long session of cuddling and stroking which I enjoyed and managed to get some laughs from this lovely young lady. In the end I would say I was satisfied and will probably repeat with her sometime to see if we can work out the awkwardness of the actual sex. Sometimes that improves with a second session.

PS-the photos on the hp make her look older and sophisticated. In fact she has much more the look of a young 20 year old-which is in fact what she is. She has (at the moment) a very innocent look.

Finally made it back to Berlin along with a rather extensive cheat sheet (names, adresses and deatils) though fully expecting to take things as they come. I've already hit most of the better known bordellos and thus was hoping to sample a few new and perhaps more obscure ones, fully aware that they can be a real hit or miss. I likewise wanted to try my luck with a few escort services. As Angus has pointed out, the Berlin delivery scheme is rather shoddy. Guess I just wanted some adventure and seeked a diamond in the rough. Nothing is 100% in this game and needless to say I had some great experiences along with a few duds. Still a trip to remember.

Stayed at the Swissotel, a top 3 ranked hotel ([url]www.tripadvisor.com[/url]) and can add that it was not a problem to bring ladies back to your room. More on that later. Arrived last Wednesday around 18.00 and after unpacking and a shower immediately headed off to Europasalon which is only a fifteen minute walk from my hotel.

[url]http://www.europasalon.de/[/url]

Easy to find, next to a Kebab house on a small square and right by the Nollendorf tube station. The building is somewhat shabby but nothing scary. I should mention however that having buzzed the place, immediately two young kids (13-15 years old!) run down the steps and opened the door. They lead me to the Salon on the first floor then headed up the steps. Quite odd. House Mutte did not speak any English but that never seems to be a problem for me. I speak a Nordic language so I get some basics but I suppose it would be a problem if you have specifics to ask. I had my eye on Polina but was told that she had just left. I hadn't much time so I asked all the same for the parade. No other customers around. So only a three girl intro and numbers one and two were nothing to brag about. Fortunately the third was quite appealing - Ada

[url]http://www.europasalon.de/index2.html[/url]

Ada is approx. 22 years old and from Poland. She did mention that she is only here for eight days but I presume that these girls come and go (and come back all the time). Ada has a lovely young and tight body, not petite but not large by any means. What was so appealing about Ada was that she always smiled. The chemistry I suppose was very good between us from the off-set. I paid €60 for thirty minutes plus extra €20 for DFK. Hadn't much time to get too kinky. All in all a great time with Ada and looking back, the sweatiest fuck I experienced on this trip. We just connected. Cannot recommend enough this girl. Above average BJ skills (no real DT but sloppy all the same) and an enthusiastic fuck in several positions. She pretty much allows you to dictate what tickles your fancy all while giggling like a school girl. Service minded for sure and one who is apparently not yet jaded by this line of work. She likes sex for sure. Had I booked an hour then I am certain that we could have had a real GFE and perhaps even extras for free.

Face - 7-8
Body - 8
Sex - 9+
Attitude - 10

Immeditely went to visit my friend for dinner (Il Sorrisio by Tiergarten- very pleasant Italian eatery with top service and not too expensive). We ate and drank there for well over three hours and thus I was anxious to hit another spot before going back to my hotel. Now my (Hungarian) friend will screw only black women. This is not so easy in Berlin unless you want to hit Artemis and even there the selection is very limited. In any case I had heard that "Sexy Candy Shop" [url]http://www.sexy-candyshop.de/index.php/108652[/url], had one black girl so we called to confirm. Indeed they could abide my friend's wish. I had a hankerin' to meet with a girl there named Jeanette and she too was present. So off we go in a taxi, a twenty minute journey south out to a residential suburb. You cannot miss this place from the street as there is a huge neon sign outside (lips à la their logo). It's late and they plan to soon close so we were quite rushed by the unfriendly Madame. She was a real ***** in fact. We were presented with a mere four girl line-up and I must say that I was a bit disappointed to see that Jeanette [url]http://www.sexy-candyshop.de/index.php/121033[/url], was not nearly as pretty as I had hoped. I think it was the long locky hair in the photo that caught my eye. Well she had the hair allright but it was fake (extensions) to be sure. I choose her all the same as she did possess a lovely figure. Nothing outstanding but youthful and tight. However word of warning....she has extremely bad teeth. Jeanette is Bulgarian and I reckon their health care is a few decades behind. So no DFK was ordered but I did ask for CIM and dildospiel which was on the menu. If I remeber correctly I paid €70 for forty minutes plus €20 (CIM) and €20 for vibrator play. The vibrator play was a real treat and a exciting visual (though quite faked), the BJ was covered. The sex somewhat mechanical and no GFE to speak of. But I was in the mood for some filth, not GFE. Indeed I got to whip off the hard hat and finish in her mouth. Great fun for me but it was obvious that she obliged for the sake of money only. I should add that the room was large and clean (no showers-only a small sink for washing) but a pleasant surprise was a TV showing (good!) porno whilst the deed was being done. A nice touch and if your girl is not up to par, then you can always watch the screen and fantasize a bit. Lastly I can say that the black lady (Lucy?) was above average in looks and appeared very sexy. However my friend did not speak much about his session so I presume that it too was mechanical and less that extroidinary. In sum I would not venture back to this place and most definately not to see Jeanette.

Face - 6 (pretty but with awful teeth)
Body - 7+
Sex - 6
Attitude - 3

One great session and one so-so....day 1 was about what I had expected though Ada really made the day to remeber.

The Grand Wazoo

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Spent all last Thursday "working" at the Venus Adult Film Fair. An experience for certain. Upon entering the Messe one is greeted by a bounty of scantitly clad women a few of which are either topless or sporting G-string panties. Enough T&A to keep any man's blood flowing. Unfortunately I even witnessed a German woman pushing eighty (!) who was eager to flash her goods to all willing to watch. It seems that many Germen men have a fetish for the extreme and kinky. So a long day at the Adult Fair and yet another dinner at Il Sorrisio where my host suggested to visit the Kit Kat Club (apparently a club where anything goes and doesn't cost more than the admission fee). We taxied out there (north) only to discover that it was not The Kit Kat Klub this evening but rather a hard rock night so we passed. I thus made a small fib to break away and around midnight headed off to Mon Rouge [url]http://www.monrouge.de/home_en.html[/url]

Now this place has been well reviewed, as recent as a few days ago, so there isn't too much more to share. However this is the one IMHO elite bordellos that I have yet to visit so it was a 'must' on my list. Any *****house that has a gold plated nameplate at the entrance ought to be worth a visit and the internet line-up and photos are a thing of beauty. Turns out that these photos are indeed real and in my newly found exeperience accurate. Five girls present (incl. Michelle who is from Africa and has a huge ass - if that's your thing....). There were three that I had hope to see; Bella, Maya and/or Nicky. Only Nicky was present of the three and apparently Bella no longer works there (though still on thir website). Fortunately Nicky was present and upon seeing her in person this was a no brainer. There are several positive reports on Nicky and now you can add one more. This girl radiates not only beauty but lustful sex as well. Rather petite with a superb ass and the utmost perfect tits. Of course they are fake but I had to ask her since there are no visible scars and feel wonderfully natural to me. My girlfriend back home has fake boobs and they are not nearly as natural feeling as they are with Nicky. My compliments to her surgeon.

I'm pretty certain that I paid Nicky only €100 (maybe €120) and for this I received massage, kissing and CIM as well as DATY and sex in several positions. Oh yeah...BBBJ without my asking. Easily 50-60 minutes of pure bliss and all this in the nicest bed and room in any of the bordellos that I have visited (can you not attest to this assumption Angus?) Candles, perfect lighting, lots of fancy pillows and simply a wonderful setting. Note-this is the room in the middle of the parlour room, just a tad to the left of the main entrance. When Nicky walks in your room topless and with little white panties then you are in for a real treat. No real french kissing but lots a kissing all the same and she appeared to appreciate it when I literally licked nearly every inch of her sweet smelling body. Spent a good 15-20 minutes tongueing her pussy and ass (a rare service on my part) and much to her delight. Of course most pros can fake it and make us guys feel that we are special but I really believe that Nicky really enjoys what she is doing. She speaks with a sexy deep voice - her English surprisingly good. If she has any flaws it might be that her eyes are nothing special and in fact a bit sunken. This of course is a mute point when considering her (fake?) perky lips and most perfect tits and ass. If I were to draw the perfect body then it would look like Nickys'.

She is no doubt a popular girl and has done her fair share of 'dates' but if you don't have a mental problem with this then anybody going to Berlin ought to give her a shot. Top notch all allround and Mon Rouge is a safe and dependable place. If they had a few more girls in the line-up I would easily say that this is the best place in Berlin and most reasonably priced. IMO a better atmosphere than KD's or VK.

Nicky [url]http://www.monrouge.de/nicky.html[/url]

Face - 9
Body - 10
Sex - 10
Attitude - 10

Ok, that's some great ratings but I cannot claim that they are over-the-top and I honestly cannot give her anything less. This is top 10 porn star material and I work in that business so I have some experience with these girls. Only maybe Lanny Barby and Baroka Balls would be above Nicky on my wish list. Have not banged the first two but I now at least have the memory of being with this lovely 22 year old Bulgarian dynamo.

Should have gone back to MR and seeked out Maya.

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Shit, I'm getting carried away and not taking care of my office work. But I owe you guys who regularly report and most of all to Angus who has made the Berlin section of ISG a viable forum of info.

Last Friday and another day of work at the Messe. Not easy walking by half naked girls all day and videos blarring pussy and cum shots in literally every direction you look. I honestly don't get very excited whilst doing this 'job' but it is great fun to bullshit with a few porn stars that I have met through the years in this business. Special mention to my friend Puma Swede who is way under rated in this business and a real nice girl to boot.

Waliking down Kantstrasse from the Messe Sud (yes I walk alot while on my trips and in fact avoid taxis) and I am hoping to meet with Laura at Bei Mona. She appears to have a lovely rack and my Cialis (one a day) is kicking in big time. Mona bordello is easy to find on the busy Kantstrasse in Charlottenburg though it is in fact around the corner with a small seperate entrance...you'll find it if you look. Door opens and the Madame tells me that Laura starts at 21.00. It's only 17.30. So it's off to Europa Salon once again to hopefully meet up with the enticing Polina.

[url]http://www.europasalon.de/index2.html[/url]

Acc. to Madame Polina (who is Polish of course) is to my delight present. The hausmutte this time places me in a nicer room than on my last visit (this bordello is not nearly as classy as MR, rather modest and simplier in decor). I take a shower adjacent and then without even seeing Polina, wait on the bed for her to come in. Upon entering I must admit a bit of disapppointment. Her photos appear lovely but without face so it's always going to be either better than expected or some disappointment. Well to be honest Polina is by no means unattractive but her face is not on par with her body. Cute but no knock-out. I would also say that she is around 25-27 where her photos make her seem closer to 19-22. Also her breasts are small (no problem for me) but have some hang. Fortunately her ass is small and she has thin hips (again my taste). OK no beauty but certainly attractive and I'll have no problem enjoying a session with Polina as long as she has some positive attitude.

She pulls down her panties while facing the wall and flashes her beaver from behind. A lovely start and again my Cialis is in top gear. She speaks next to no English. Ok, €60+€20 (DFK) ordered only. I asked for possible anal in case I get the urge in the heat of the moment but she let's me know that it ain't going to happen. After five minutes of french kissing and foreplay I can tell that Polina prefers soft cuddly sex. I like soft sex as well as raunch so I'm happy to oblige to the softer side as this I believe will lead to a better session. She then proceeds to give me a good (not great) back massage which is just what I needed. I actually remember well the warmth of her pussy on my ass while she was massaging my back. Quite a new kick I do believe. I then received a covered BJ of somewhat poor quality so I made sure that it turned into 69. This got her going for sure. To sum things up quicker we did the normal 3-4 positions but the condom thing was killing me so I asked her to finish me off manually and preferably on her face. She obliged. This was not great sex but above avearge GFE. So much so that I offered her a massage when we finished with the sex bit. I reckon that I gave her a better massage then what I had received. A very pleasant time indeed. If you like sex on the soft side then Polina is a winner. If you want to bang a ***** then look for someone else.

Face - 7
Body - 7
Sex - 8
Attitude - 8 (if I spoke Polish then it probably would have been a 10...)

I'd go with Polina again but not a first choice and probably only if I was a bit depressed rather than mad horny....if that makes any sense.

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...and definitely RoD worthy for it's info.

Yes I also agree that Mon Rouge stacks up against the best. And I also wish they had a more complete line up. They do seem to have an annoying habit/policy of leaving girls who have left up on the website for a very long time.

Case in point is Crissy who is still on the English web site despite being absent (as far as I know) since early July. I call from time to time and inquire but am always told-Urlaub. Now maybe she is, but it seems that she is gone for now and they could remove the picture.

Funny story about Crissy is that the day after my session with her I was riding my bicycle down the street (now where near to MR) when I saw from behind three rather lovely, tall young ladies on the side walk. As I came abreast of them, checking out the one in the middle, she turned (girls seem to have 6th sense as to when they are being scoped) and I was stunned to see it was in fact Crissy and, I guess, two of her girlfriends. She looked like she wanted to disappear and I just cruised by and some meters past turned briefly to look again. Hope it did not embarrass her too much but it was a strange coincidence.

As for Nicky-all you say I can back up with enthusiasm. A real PSE. I found that what she likes most is watching herself and if you encourage this she will get right into some really filthy talk as well.

As for the nicest room-the big room at MR is definitely on my top list but I have to say that my favorite room is the red room upstairs at KD. Perhaps too it has to do with having some real nice sessions in that room. But the one that you mention does have a certain grandeur that can not be denied. One feels like a king sitting back surrounded by huge pillows in the middle of a mirrored room, with a lovely young girl servicing your dick.

I look forward to more of your report especially curious about which Escorts you used and what were the results.

AM

I personally find Salon Europa over priced considering the quality of the girls and the rooms. Really the only thing it has going for it is the location, being in Schöneberg. Though it is, in fact, in the seediest corner of Schöneberg, right next to Berlin's seedy street sex track.

It used to have the advantage of being open late but has now cut back it's hours considerably. Which for me is fine as I have used it as a late night desperation booty call place and the less I do of that kind of mongering the better.

If you like slim hipped girls with nice breasts might I suggest, when you return to Berlin and if both are still working, either Marie or Alexa both at Liberty.

Marie I have reviewed couple of times and the only thing missing from her menu is that she has no taste for finger play. Otherwise she is a fantastic fuck who really gets into it, urging you on to fuck her harder. And she has truly magnificent small, responsive beasts.

Likewise Alexa likes a fairly hard fuck, especially from behind. Alexa (at least the times I have seen her) seems also to really enjoy finger play and you can go very deep at least in her pussy. To anal she is not so open-maybe a pinky finger up to the first knuckle when she gets going but that is it. Alexa's breasts are a real treat. As close to puffy nipples as I have found here in Berlin.

Of the two, Alexa has the slimmer hips. Marie actually has a roundish ass but otherwise she is a very small girl. And both advertised ages are, I would say, with in a year or so of being accurate.

Going to sum this up now with my last three encounters and in no particular order. Having searched hard on this board for a reliable escort agency I came away with little direction. I asked Nicky at Mon Rouge what they took for outcall and was told €200. The same as Kamilla D and Van Kampen. It is probably worth it. The two agencies that I used are, as Angus states, part of a cartel associated with bordellos of lesser repute. The first escort girl I met with was Marina from Europe-Modell [url]http://www.europa-modell.de/[/url]. I asked initially for Mia but the agent guy, who spoke reasonable English, informed me that she was not available. I then inquired about Marina upon which he asks "do you mean the blonde girl with huge boobs", this was enough for me to place an order. Indeed Marina shows up at my hotel within the 45 minutes as promised. Note that I had to meet Marina down in the lobby as one needs a key to use the elevators to the room at the Swissotel.

While in clothes Marina appeared. Well Ok. But I did notice that her face was rather chubby and a she appeared quite a bit heavier then in her photos. Yet she was smiling alot in the elvevator and I couldn't yet see her body as she was wearing a long thick coat. Up to the room and she asks for a drink (not very smart in fact). I fix us some vodkas and she jumps into the shower. I strip and lay on my bed and await this blonde with the "huge boobs". When she comes and drops the towel I immediately see a body in terrible shape considering her youthful age. This is no bait and switch, pictures are correct. Marina has simply gained 10-15 kilos since her arrival to Germany. She speaks incessantly in German though we acknowledge my lack thereof. Her ass is flat, wide and totally unattractive. Her tits down to her belly and clearly sans résistance. I'm just hoping now for some filthy sex with my eyes wandering elsewhere.

The sex sucked. She honestly complains the entire time. Provides a weak covered BJ and the worst back rub that I've had all week. I'm neither into licking her pussy nor playing with her huge saggy boobs. Her ass I don't even want to see. We did the deed in two positions only and I finish off manually on her stomach. €110 for a lousy fuck with an unattractive girl who has a bad attitude. Note that Marina is Lithuanian.

On another occasion (my last shot before heading off to the airport on Sunday). I order again from one of the mega agencies. As it was only 10: 30 in the morning I had but little choice since only a few advertise as open 24/7. Yes this time it was Call-Girls-Berlin who have a large stable of Baltic girls. My first request was again Mia (she does appear at both agencies and at different prices.) but again she was not available. They offer Katja [url]http://www.call-girls-berlin.de/[/url] and I accept. I did ask the agency if Katja is petite and the claimed 22 years old. They state that this is true. Order is placed and amazingly Katja is at my door within 30-35 minutes. So credit to both these agencies for promptness. Also I can attest that neither pulled off a bait and switch. Also note that this time I get a call from the receptionist of the hotel ask asks if they can let up a women to my room. Could be a problem for some. So Katja made it all the way to my door.

However, Katja arrives with a real pouty look. It is obvious that she thinks this is a bother and never once during our session did this girl smile. €100 again (I didn't have exactly the said €90) so I figured an extra €10 would perhaps bring a smile or two + some good sex. It did not. Katja was in fact colder than Marina. She is probably a few years closer to 28 then the claimed 22. It's obvious that she has had a baby or two as her breasts have been suckled dry. So bad that I never touched them once with purpose. Her ass was small and fairly cute but was going soon south. But my God the attitude. If not for the Cialis and the fact that I knew that this was going to be my last shot in Berlin on this trip, then I would have given up and sent her off. Again lousy back rub, a BJ first uncovered then covered (what's that all about? ) and some sex in a few positions none of which felt comfortable. The entire session she really appeared to be bothered by the whole ordeal. So I basically force her (nothing physical) to finish me off orally and without the condom and lay back and dream about Meggan Mallone. It worked but I immediately felt jipped. Note again that Katja is also Baltic and from Lithuania.

Face. 6 (probably cute at 16 but now weathered)

Body. 6 (probably cute at 16 but now weathered)

Sex. 1 (she is female anyway)

Attitude. 0 (couldn't have been worse)

Now I have been to Riga and mongered a bit and to be truthful never had any memorable sessions there either. Likewise have met a few Baltic girls at Artemis and even a few 'straight' ones at discos. They all blow (no pun intended). Never again will I pay for any 'Baltic girls.

It seems that the Polish girls come to Berlin by choice and to make some quick cash. It's obvious that the Baltic girls arrive I dare say by force. They hate what they are doing and have no intention of providing good service. It's not a chemistry thing. Their attitudes all appear [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor from the start.

Now Angus, you say that you are not too fond of Europa Salon and that is fine. You know the city much better than I. But it is a Polish operation and both girls that I met there were clearly enjoying themselves and making sure that I was too. So while in Berlin it's German, Polish, Russian or Bulgarian only for me.

One last report (the best for last) was a wonderful session at Salon Prestige last Friday. I have always had good sessions there and it is fairly close to the Messe so I can stop by easily on my way home from the show. The line up at this time (around 16. 00) was quite limited as I believe the night shift starts around 18. 00. Only three girls were presented to me and all three were certainly worthy but I was now in the mood for some anal so the choice to be made was Mandy [url]http://www.top-prestige. De/mandy. Htm[/url] A forty minute session incl. Anal and DFK cost me €130. This is quite a bit but I can easily say that this session was the most memorable. Mandy is a real pleaser and cute as a bunny. Her body is not in my opinion outstanding but very feminine all the same with wide hips, a round ass and normal tits of a twenty one year old. Very girly yet a woman in the same package. Mandy is a great kisser and likes to caress and play soft. The BJ was covered but with great hand work and plenty of eye contact. I licked well her snatch and we did 69 for probably a good 15-20 minutes. In fear of blowing too soon I said that I wanted to go directly to anal and skip the normal sex and she was fine with this. A little lube and then it was pure bliss. Now the tempo was faster and I had a great time banging her wide ass from behind. She certainly gave me the impression that she enjoys it in the keester. But once again the condom was killing my true sensation so Mandy finished me off with her hand all the while I was buried between her legs. A load to be proud of I might add and even managed to hit the wall behind the bed. A good laugh but I ended up cleaning it up. The session worth every penny. I will always visit Prestige at least once while in Berlin. Never had a bad session there.

Face. 8

Body. 7+

Sex. 9 (she's rather quiet otherwise a 10)

Attitude. 10

So that's it fellas. Some great experiences and some duds. My best words of advice are take no Baltic girls and if you must take outcall then go with the top bordellos and pay the extra cash. Thanks again to Angus and everyone else for tips and stories and keep the info flowing.

The Grand Wazoo

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I've had a trip out to the "All Inclusive" Pussy Club over near SXF. Full report to be found here:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=804789&postcount=2382[/url]

Canned summary: If you really want to try a PT, it's worth it. Don't expect any real lookers or a genuine GFE. Hard to beat for 70Eur

As has been noted here before the Berlin escort scene is some how lacking in quality, dependable agencies. I used to be a solid supporter of Haut-nah (Club Liveline-Bitchclub) but I have found that their frequent time outs and their lack of change in the line up has made them unreliable and not so attractive to use. They dearly need some new talent if they are to get a call from Angus again.

The good news is that I have now had two sessions with La Passion girls (see Natalie some months back) and both were top notch.
This time I saw Sweety and can easily say that it was one of the top sessions I have had all year here in Berlin. Now I have to say that she is not a great beauty (model type) if that is what you are looking for. She is, in fact, quite plain looking. But there is also something about her that attracted me on the web page. That and a positive review of her on one of the German language boards got me to pick up the phone and call to see if she was available on a Sunday evening.

[url]http://www.la-passion-escort.de/profil-54.html[/url]


Arrangements were easy and well handled by the phone girl and, unlike last time, the phone girl spoke good English. I called at 21:30 and set up the hour long session for 22:15. Sweety arrived a couple of minutes early and notified me by phone (as requested) that she was downstairs. I feel certain that were she to have been running late I would have received a call notifying me of the lateness.

She came up, we took care of business, 100€ for one hour, and then I offered her a shower which she accepted. When she emerged from the shower a couple of minutes later the session got off to a good start and just flowed from there. Yes it was one of those sessions that seemed to just have a good rhythm to it.

The kissing was enthusiastic and deep, she was very responsive to what was happening and really yes to anything I requested. Her bj skills are top notch and she loves deep fingering and even eventually some fisting! I had my hand into her pussy, thumb and all, right up to the third knuckle. A little more lube, a little more time and persistence on my part and I am certain that she could have taken the whole fist to the wrist.

Also she like to have her ass fingered, two fingers being easily accommodated. Seeing this I decided to try anal as well with her-offered at a very reasonable 20€ extra.

Now let me say here that I rarely go for paid anal as I find that though a lady may offer it as an extra, all too often it is just for the extra cash that they do it. Sweety, I would say, is one of those rare service providers who likes it and is, as a result, very good at it. What often happens to me is that little Angus, already a little unhappy at being wrapped in latex, meets, what is in effect a clenched asshole, and rather than soldiering on he just wilts and the whole enterprise ends up in disaster. That and I am 40€ (for instance at Liberty) poorer.

With Sweety the opposite happened. Little Angus was pretty much ramrod ready as a result of Sweety’s oral skills and her willingness to finger herself while being watched, when the latex was applied. A short journey into her sweet, though rather spacious (as a result of the aforementioned fisting) pussy and I readied myself to penetrate her ass. As I introduced little A’s head to her brown eye the gates to heaven just seemed to part for me and I slid into her ass like a hot knife into butter. And totally deep, as far as was possible. And she pushed back as if asking for more. Well I proceeded to fuck, I mean really fuck her in the ass. Pulling out, reentering, position changes, the whole nine yards. It was as if I was "fuck-channeling" the Anal God himself-Rocco!

And from Sweety, not a word of complaint. Rather she moaned and encouraged me to go deeper and as hard as I wanted. I had to pace myself, slow down and even stop on several occasions, sometimes pulling out and shoving a couple of fingers up her ass, sometimes just going as deep as possible and then just resting there feeling her ass pulse. I love that feeling when all you can feel is her pulse, deep in her anal passage, on the end of your cock.

Finally, with her on her back, legs at her ears, I fucked her long steady, solid strokes until I came. Whew!

Anyway, I got rather detailed there and mostly I just wanted to say that Sweety really seems to enjoy anal sex and if any out there reading this want a provider who will really let you fuck her ass, the way anal sex is meant to be, then Sweety is most definitely the girl for you. If you do not mind a girl who is a little plain, she more than makes up for it with her service and the fact that she is a really pleasant person with whom to spend an hour of non stop erotic action.

We finished with about ten minutes left on the hour and I really think I was more aware of the time than she was. Sweety was quite happy to then lie for a while and cuddle, caress and engage in pillow talk.

To sum up then-I was 100% satisfied with this session. Everything about it was top notch from the initial contact to the quality of the sex. What was promised and offered on the website was delivered with out a doubt.
I am sure to be using this agency again in the future.

Thanks for reading.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]The good news is that I have now had two sessions with La Passion girls (see Natalie some months back) and both were top notch.
This time I saw Sweety and can easily say that it was one of the top sessions I have had all year here in Berlin.

Thanks for reading.[/QUOTE]
..amazing account of your time with sweety. Really superb writing, the passion and rawness just drips off the page. Amazing is all I can say.

Pls keep her close, frozen in time and place, until I can get back to Berlin and plumb her depths.

Straight to ROD.

[QUOTE=Iseeu]..amazing account of your time with sweety. Really superb writing, the passion and rawness just drips off the page. Amazing is all I can say.

Pls keep her close, frozen in time and place, until I can get back to Berlin and plumb her depths.

Straight to ROD.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the feedback. As you know I love writing these and am still working on my opus.

I hope she sticks around a while. As you well know the girls in this game come and go with great regularity. Sweety has, at least as she told me and it is quite believable, just been working for about 4 weeks now. But I asked her about the agency and, like Natalie, she told me that they were a good bunch and good to work for i.e. they treat the girls well. So there is no reason to think that she will be gone anytime soon.

I for one certainly hope so as I would love a repeat performance.

Has anyone visited La Folie recently? It it a real FKK ? How many girls etc.

Can anyone recommend it?

Paul

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]To sum up then-I was 100% satisfied with this session. Everything about it was top notch from the initial contact to the quality of the sex. What was promised and offered on the website was delivered with out a doubt.
I am sure to be using this agency again in the future.

Thanks for reading.[/QUOTE]I wonder why whenever I read you I then try to arrange some work in Berlin.

A detailed report, both for action and atmosphere

I see that Hautnah are back from their summer sabbatical, but in much-reduced format.

Miki and Claudia have apparently stayed in Romania, so only Michaela is working.

As Angus has observed previously, this agency appears to be sliding somewhat; a disappointment as they had previously occupied top spot in the 'home delivery' league.

The guy there says that he is trying to recruit another bod. He needs to. A one-girl escort agency is not much of an attraction.

Charlie

[QUOTE=Charlie 123]I see that Hautnah are back from their summer sabbatical, but in much-reduced format.

Miki and Claudia have apparently stayed in Romania, so only Michaela is working.

As Angus has observed previously, this agency appears to be sliding somewhat; a disappointment as they had previously occupied top spot in the 'home delivery' league.

The guy there says that he is trying to recruit another bod. He needs to. A one-girl escort agency is not much of an attraction.

Charlie[/QUOTE]

I could not agree more. And having been with Michaela I would have to say that she was the most disappointing session that I ever experienced from this agency. Nice enough girl but something just did not work with her for me.

I also find that my intelligence is somewhat insulted by the fact that Miki-who has been coming to Berlin now for some 2-3 years is still 18 years old on the web site. I mean, does that mean that she was 15 when I saw her 3 years back? I hope not!

Still, I guess these things have their ups and down and cycles. Perhaps Haut-nah will shine once more...

I remember though very fondly the first time I called them and ordered Nicole who was a real firecracker and a fuck-pig if ever I met one. She was a bit like the energizer bunny when it came to sex-just kept going and going. I think she set the tone for the whole agency for a while.

But I think that La Passion is taking up the slack left by the decline of
Haut-nah.

[QUOTE=Paul23]Has anyone visited La Folie recently? It it a real FKK ? How many girls etc.

Can anyone recommend it?

Paul[/QUOTE]
This has been discussed recently in this thread. Do some research in the back pages of this thread. It should not be too hard to find.

You will also find a short sum up of La Folie in my Berlin Guide, found in the Reports of Distinction thread.

Briefly-save your money and visit Artemis. A bit pricier initially but much higher quality of girl.

When is the best time of day to visit these places? (most girls available)

>Van Kampen
>Kamilla Douglas
>Freudenhaus Hase

Also, is there a better time to visit the sex kinos? (daytime or night?)

[QUOTE=Puff Time]I've had a trip out to the "All Inclusive" Pussy Club over near SXF. Full report to be found here:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=804789&postcount=2382[/url]

Canned summary: If you really want to try a PT, it's worth it. Don't expect any real lookers or a genuine GFE. Hard to beat for 70Eur[/QUOTE]I too have now been to the Pussy Club Full report here:[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=806739&postcount=2391[/url]

My Canned summary: A bit too small and skanky for me - prefer Artemis.

[QUOTE=Shekwan]When is the best time of day to visit these places? (most girls available)

>Van Kampen
>Kamilla Douglas
>Freudenhaus Hase

Also, is there a better time to visit the sex kinos? (daytime or night?)[/QUOTE]

Good question and I am not sure that there is a definitive answer.

Generally it is best to avoid shift change which varies from place to place. I think for VK it is around 4:00 p.m. while at KD a bit later, 5:00 p.m.. Also later in the evening will likely be a small line up.

If I was going to view the parade, which I rarely do these days as I tend to book appointments off the web page or with girls that I know, I would try to get there anywhere between 6:30 & 8:00 p.m.. But there is no guarantee as the size of the line up also depends upon how bust the place is and there is no real predicting that. I have asked several girls what are the busiest days and they always say that it is very hard to say. It depends upon many factors from which trade shows are in town to the local holidays-apparently it is often very busy just after a family type holiday. I guess that men need a treat after having spent too many hours with the wife and kids.

Anyway, sorry I can not be more definitive but it is a question that I have often pondered and never seem to have come up with a good answer for myself.

I guess one piece of advise I could give is that if you stick to the Wilmersdorf/Schöneberg bordellos (that means no Freudenhaus) which are VK, KD, Royal, Liberty and Salon Prestige you could easily start at one (say Salon Prestige) and just make your way through until you found a girl that satisfies you. They are all with in an easy 1/2 hour circle using public transit. Just be careful not to, as I have done on occasion, get into a space where you are convinced that "the perfect girl" must be in the next line up and end up at 10:00 p.m. heading out to Hermannplatz to visit Frau Müller's as everything else is closing. Almost always the basis for a bad decision and a morning of regret the next day.

Oh and the sex kinos-always a late night adventure for me. And I have sworn off the sex kino scene as I find that the sleaze appeal wears pretty thin after a few visits. For a while there was something fun about awaking with a boner at 2:00 a.m. and running out to the sex kino to have it serviced. But no more, well maybe one more time if I really need to;-)

[QUOTE=Shekwan]When is the best time of day to visit these places? (most girls available)

>Van Kampen
>Kamilla Douglas
>Freudenhaus Hase

Also, is there a better time to visit the sex kinos? (daytime or night?)[/QUOTE]

Freudenhaus Hase has the girls avaialbility published on the web-page. There always seems to be the same number of girls there, as they each occupy a room. The place has expanded recently with adding 2 more rooms on the ground floor. I have found the availability matrix to be accurate on my visits, but it is pot-luck as to whether the girl you have gone to see is available or already has a punter. You can book appointments if you want.

[QUOTE=Puff Time]Freudenhaus Hase has the girls avaialbility published on the web-page. There always seems to be the same number of girls there, as they each occupy a room. The place has expanded recently with adding 2 more rooms on the ground floor. I have found the availability matrix to be accurate on my visits, but it is pot-luck as to whether the girl you have gone to see is available or already has a punter. You can book appointments if you want.[/QUOTE]

Also across the Hof from Freudenhaus is Pin-up Girls, formerly Lulubabys. Now I have only been there once and did not stay as the line up was at the time not very impressive. But they seem to have upgraded things a bit lately and there is a nice line up, at least on the web. And the prices seem to be in line with what Freudenhaus is offering across the way.

So this is also an option. And Chayenne, who used to work at Freudenhaus, currently in the line up at La Passion, seems to be signed on there for the moment. This girl (who I have not seen) has a superstar reputation on the German forums for being a real anal maniac, gives rim jobs enthusiastically etc. Though be warned, her stated age on the web page is 18. On La Passion site she is listed as 21. 23-25 is probably more accurate and with quite saggy tits I have heard. From another escort so take that for what it is worth.

But should you really be into anal apparently she can take quite a pounding.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Also across the Hof from Freudenhaus is Pin-up Girls, formerly Lulubabys. Now I have only been there once and did not stay as the line up was at the time not very impressive. But they seem to have upgraded things a bit lately and there is a nice line up, at least on the web. And the prices seem to be in line with what Freudenhaus is offering across the way.

So this is also an option. And Chayenne, who used to work at Freudenhaus, currently in the line up at La Passion, seems to be signed on there for the moment. This girl (who I have not seen) has a superstar reputation on the German forums for being a real anal maniac, gives rim jobs enthusiastically etc. Though be warned, her stated age on the web page is 18. On La Passion site she is listed as 21. 23-25 is probably more accurate and with quite saggy tits I have heard. From another escort so take that for what it is worth.

But should you really be into anal apparently she can take quite a pounding.[/QUOTE]


I have visited Chayenne (now Celine @ La Passion Escort) 1 or 2 years ago, when she was still working at Freudenhaus Hase. This girl performed one of the best porn experiences that I experienced for such discount (Hase rates). Not only was she a great french kisser and nasty fuck but she was the only Hase-Bunny I ever remember who'd let you cum on her face. It was a pleasure. I don't remember her having any problematic tits. To me everything about her was just fine. For a German girl she was also extremely friendly and great in positive attitude.

I visited her @ Hase only once unfortunately, coz later she was kinda overbooked for a pity until a while ago she then suddenly left and re-appeared @ La Passion. I never tried LP, but I am certain Celine is really her and authentic. Worth a try for sure..!!

Angus, you could be well right that she is somewhat mid-20 ranged.

About Pin-Up Girls opposite of Hase, I am going to try it one of these nights...especially I wanna go for Anna if her real appearance meets with her pics.

Any update on our all-time MAC-favourite Marie?

Cheers,
The AF

[QUOTE=The AF]I have visited Chayenne (now Celine @ La Passion Escort) 1 or 2 years ago, when she was still working at Freudenhaus Hase. This girl performed one of the best porn experiences that I experienced for such discount (Hase rates). Not only was she a great french kisser and nasty fuck but she was the only Hase-Bunny I ever remember who'd let you cum on her face. It was a pleasure. I don't remember her having any problematic tits. To me everything about her was just fine. For a German girl she was also extremely friendly and great in positive attitude.

I visited her @ Hase only once unfortunately, coz later she was kinda overbooked for a pity until a while ago she then suddenly left and re-appeared @ La Passion. I never tried LP, but I am certain Celine is really her and authentic. Worth a try for sure..!!

Angus, you could be well right that she is somewhat mid-20 ranged.

About Pin-Up Girls opposite of Hase, I am going to try it one of these nights...especially I wanna go for Anna if her real appearance meets with her pics.

Any update on our all-time MAC-favourite Marie?

Cheers,
The AF[/QUOTE]

Hi,

Yes I have read good reports of Anna as well on the German forum. I believe that she is also available at L'amour 2a in Charlottenburg.

[url]http://www.lamour2a.de/anna_new.php?[/url]
[url]http://www.heisse-pinupgirls.de/anna.html[/url]

I am pretty sure it is the same girl. Not sure of the price difference between the two places but I imagine it is pretty similar. The pics are better on the L'amour 2a site.

As for Maria-no sign of her as far as I can see. I heard somewhere (perhaps it was you?) that she was at a place called Lola Candy in Neuköln. But she has never appeared on their site and frankly my one experience at this establishment was so awful I though that if the young lady has sunk this low perhaps I should look else where for the sloppy deep bj style she provides. It appeared to me, from the way that she moved from place to place and having spoken with her about her enjoyment of partying and all that involves that perhaps she was in a sort of downward spiral. I am afraid that maybe she can be found now on the street track.

Hi

I just try to book celine today for tomorrow Saturday

Here is the answer of the agency:

"" hello, celine doesn't speak english and she doesn't want to meet somebody, who doesn't speak german. Sorry. We don't send sms, sorry, but you have to call personally to make a date. Regards, anna, la passion escort """

Angus can you explain this fact?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Qp 001]Hi

I just try to book celine today for tomorrow Saturday

Here is the answer of the agency:

"" hello, celine doesn't speak english and she doesn't want to meet somebody, who doesn't speak german. Sorry. We don't send sms, sorry, but you have to call personally to make a date. Regards, anna, la passion escort """

Angus can you explain this fact?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Sorry, I can not explain it except to speculate that maybe the girl has had some bad experiences with men not speaking any German what so ever.

Who knows?

Personally, if it really important to you that you see this particular girl you could contact by phone tomorrow and try again. I always find that a bit more personal contact puts people at their ease. I mean, if you call and speak with the phone girl, acting like a gentleman of course, you might get a different result. And maybe not. Hopefully the girls have the right to see who they want and not see who the do not want, even if it is for irrational reasons.

And if you really, really need to see Celine you could also try her at Pinup Girls as Chayenne. See the post below. I am 95% certain it is the same girl.

If it is just a good anal session you are after I can suggest Sweety from the same agency. Also see my post below for a full report.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Sorry, I can not explain it except to speculate that maybe the girl has had some bad experiences with men not speaking any German what so ever.[/QUOTE]
I have had conversations with women at FKK clubs (mostly) who have flat out told me they will not spend time with guys they can't understand.

It may also be code for not wanting to deal with "foreigners".

[QUOTE=Jackyo]I have had conversations with women at FKK clubs (mostly) who have flat out told me they will not spend time with guys they can't understand.

It may also be code for not wanting to deal with "foreigners".[/QUOTE]I am a bit surprised. Actually I am a foreigner by looks (of Persian descent) but born and raised in Europe and therefore accent-free in German. Not at all a problem for Celine/Cheyenne. But also it is true and a personal experience of mine that if you look somewhat "turkish" or southern type women in Europe especially Germans are a bit suspicious towards you..that counts even very often also for "professional women". It is a reason I am often reluctant to seek service at very "German service points" but prefer establishments with a larger set of International Girls. In the end my charme and manners give the girl comfort and a positive impression after the often neutral first impression, but not always.

As for Cheyenne: If I remember correctly she is Eastern German and living in one of the so-called "No Go Areas" for foreigners in East-Berlin. Well, that wouldn't necessarily mean that she is anti-foreigner..I really don't believe that but it is a fact that most of these girls do not know English at all and seem to have Zero exposure to English language even in their youth. Even the mostly Eastern German birds on Oranienburger Strasse who are supposed to lurk foreign tourists into their Payday occasionally speak very bad English or are unsecure about it.

On the contrary, most Eastern European girls speak English very well and are not at all reluctant to speak it. For them it is even a challenge they are willing to take and to learn.

What I just wrote here is all my personal opinion and experience but maybe you can find some sense in it that could explain the situation you confronted.

Your experience also makes the backfall of Escort Agencies clear to me as for the fact that you know what you get in looks or outfit but then the chemistry can be ruined by something profane as language or the fact you are non-German or something. I admit, I am not an Escort guy (yet). I like to see her eyes first and feel the connection in her initial expression.

Cheers,

The AF

Hi,

I have the big luck to be in berlin the next days, and I have planned on having a session with sweety. Perfect.

But I also would like to meet with celine form the same organication, but I am not shure wath to expect. Is ther someone who can give me a hint?

I am very in nice high heels, skirt thins and sometines anal.

Any hint I would realy preciate.

After my visit I am hayyp to provide a report. This is a phantastic forum.

Will

[QUOTE=Will Smith69]Hi,

I have the big luck to be in berlin the next days, and I have planned on having a session with sweety. Perfect.

But I also would like to meet with celine form the same organication, but I am not shure wath to expect. Is ther someone who can give me a hint?

I am very in nice high heels, skirt thins and sometines anal.

Any hint I would realy preciate.

After my visit I am hayyp to provide a report. This is a phantastic forum.

Will[/QUOTE]

I am not quite sure what you are after. It seems that Celine wants customers who can speak a bit of German so I would suggest speaking German on the phone if you can. If not? perhaps get someone to phone who can? But this could cause problems later.

Or you could try hooking up with her at Pin up Girls.

[url]http://www.heisse-pinupgirls.de/chayenne.html[/url]

I am very sure it is the same girl even though the list of extras is somewhat shortened. It may not be such an issue with her at a bordello.

Good Luck and I await your report.

AM

You have to hand it to te Germans. I noticed on my recent trip to Artemis that this establishment was fully wheelchair accessible. Now Liberty is finishing up construction on a new floor that will also be equiped to receive those in wheelchairs.

[url]http://www.libertyberlin.de/barrierefrei.htm[/url]

Translated version (gtrans)

[QUOTE]room mid-November to start!
The future is even more erotic with us!

In our first floor are only suites with extra large doors and the rooms are designed so that you can go everywhere easily. If it does not quite alone, no problem. For your mitgebrachten Pfleger is a possibility for a free drink, discreetly to wait. To the first floor, accessible to arrive, you will be our house drafts support. Registration by telephone, it is you, if necessary, before the door in reception, with the lift in the first floor accompany you and our own entrance open. In a suite arrived, will be available for you ladies and you imagine starting a journey into the world of erotic love. Even the swimming in our pool, you can enjoy barrier-free. We have a jack dealer found with you, so to speak, floating in the water will run. A special seat hanging from a hook, and by remote control, this height-and seitenverstellt be. Ask then simply follow suite Point 12 on this floor is also a very spacious bathroom decorated in Roman style. The shower is extra wide, and with a special chair or a sliding board to equip. A toilet with handrails on both, and a way entry with a sink deeper in the front area. We hope to have much thought, and wish you an early erotic and barrier-free time with us![/QUOTE]

I too went to Pussy Club by Schoenefeld. Full story in Party Treff forum:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=811600&postcount=2400[/url]

I enjoyed the place and went twice.

There's also a description of my late night walk around Buellowstrasse in between.

I have now red all the last 10 pages and I’m very excited to go back to Berlin. First time I was in Berlin and first times I have paid for sex were when Germany arranged the WC of soccer. I had sex with 3 girls. The first one gave me a CBJ in a park, I find her on the "famous" oranienburgstrasse. I’m not sure her mouth was even near my dick because her hair was hanging in front and it felt more like a HJ. 50euro haha. But it was exciting because it was the first time for me.

Same day as my flight back home I went to Artemis after I checked out from the hotel. Oh man what a place! People sucking and fucking in the Kino 2-3 meters away from me? I was a little shocked hehe. Anyway, I tried to do as all others did and find me some nice woman and brought her to the Kino downstairs. Her name was Barbara, I have seen her in some information video on the net about this place. I think she live there or something =) unfortunately she had bad teeth what I can remember. She gave me a BBJ in the Kino. She looked in my eyes and sad, no spritzen okay? No spritzen! Haha, like she knew I would finish fast. We head to the room behind the curtains and I fucked her 5min. Done. Good customer I guess she told the rest of the girls.

Next girl was a blond from Poland with curly hair and nice big tits. I saw a man take her in the other Kino. I didn’t know if it was okay to watch so I tried to just look at the movie. Haha, like someone would stop me or what! ? When he was done he did not even pay, she just walked away and he stayed in the room and lights a cigarette. Maybe he paid before the action?

Anyway, I run after her and find her downstairs, grab her hand and up we went to the same room. I promise I will talk to the girls first next time. It’s a little rude to just take someone without saying anything and fuck here in a Kino. It must be more fun to get in touch first. I really did not know how to behave in a place like this. I just did like others were doing. Now, when I’m going back in late November I will use the 60 minutes rule and just relax, watch and find the right moment for some hot action. Oh, there was a black haired shark, 35+ who was attacking all the time. I managed to avoid her =)

After I read here about the escort and partytreff scene I’ll stick to Artemis and brothels. What am I looking for? For me this is fantasy, right now it is just fantasy. I have a girlfriend at home and without going in on details I can do this once a year. Oh I forget to mention that I and my friends were in Barcelona last summer. We went to several places but I did not do anything before the last day when we went to Club Riviera, 20 min with Taxi outside the city. Oh man, they attacked us like I don’t know what, but there were some really hot chicks. I went up with a girl named Ada, 20 something, petit, gorgeous looking, thin but not too thin. I can’t forget that sex. I took here in the missionary as hard as I could. I like to put a hand under her ass so I can go as deep as possible. I stopped some times and asked her if everything were okay, but she did not complain. I gave her a DATY after I finished and her little sweet were the finest I ever seen in my life. Shaved, small lips, perfect pink color. I told her that her pussy was totally perfect. She replied: of course, I take care of my pussy and smiled. I was in love. I’ll come back tomorrow I told her and almost re-booked my flight home. So, I’ve been with 4 p4p girls totally. I’ll hope a can find an Ada in Berlin =)

So, with no escort scene and Pussy Club don’t afford what I’m looking for this will be my strategy:

Friday: relax with sauna, pool and girls at Artemis

Saturday: sightseeing to Nicky at Monrouge. I just love dirty talk and after I read her that she is a PSE (porn star experience) I hope she go on with that. Take a look at Royal and see if I can find anything sweet and maybe a visit to Top-Prestige. And try out some non sex massage place.

Sunday: relax with sauna, pool and girls at Artemis

For me, in this stage of life (30-crisis but I look like 20 haha) I’m in this thing for the ladies I would never get. Okay, I know I can get 10 points if I work on it but you know what I mean. For me this thing is just fantasy, and in my fantasy right now, I have sex with girls I could only watch in papers. 10 or 9’s is what I’m looking for. But for the record, there must be chemistry to, but I’m reaching for the stars or how I should say. And for last, I admire woman and always treat them with respect, even if I can be a little rough in the bed.

Any changing/proposal in my schedule?

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Sorry for eventually bad English. Not my first language and I were not a lot on the English lessons in school.

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This girl caught my eye when she appeared on the website a couple of weeks back so this past week I ventured off the beaten trail to see if she is as good as she looks on the web page.

[url]http://www.lamour2a.de/alex_new.php?[/url]

L’amour 2a is bit of a different establishment. It is part bordello and part club, that is there is a bar there where you can sit and have a drink while you decide which girl you want to go with. The last time I was there I was in the company of ISG member Iseeu and I remember having a pleasant time with a girl named Eva (or Eve?), not the Eva who is currently on the website though.

As I mention this place, in Charlottenberg, is sort of out of the way and a bit awkward to get to as it is situated in a neighborhood right next to one of the canals. This just means that it is a bit of a walk off the transit lines, most easily accessed from U-Bahn Mierendorffplatzon the U-7 line. There are often some nice girls featured on the website but when visiting one gets the feeling that this place is decidedly down market and the prices are a little less than normal market value.

I arrived at 16:00 having called ahead and reserved a time slot with Alex. I was ushered in and Alex was summoned, taking me upstairs to a reasonably sized room on the upper floor. It was clean with a small sink, though only cold water was available to freshen up.

Alex is not a disappointment from a visual stand point. She speaks no English and really just enough German to inform the customer of the prices. She is from Romania and I would absolutely say that she is the stated age of 19 and a beginner in the business. She just had an air of youth and inexperience to her.
She indicated that she would be gone 5 mins. to brush her teeth and freshen up so I disrobed most of the way and relaxed on the bed while she was gone, which was closer to 10 minutes.

Upon her return she slipped out of her dress and joined me on the bed. Fellow members, this girl is (IMO) just a beauty. She has one of those slender, gazelle figures that Old Angus just salivates for. Smooth flawless skin, beautiful breasts (not to large and firm), wide hips, nice bum-just perfect. Unfortunately her service was not really up to grade.

Basically she is completely passive and displays so little energy that a couple of times I was tempted to take her pulse to make sure that she was still alive. Almost immediately I was informed-no fingers, no pussy licking. The fingers I could accept but the pussy licking ban was a mortal disappointment so I gently pled my case (okay, I’ll admit it, I begged a bit) and after a couple of minutes she relented and opened reluctantly her legs for a brief licking. And boys, her pussy was a sight to behold. Should the gates to hell look like this Old Angus would be through there in such haste that he would not pause even a second to consider the eternity spent burning in a lake of fire that he then have to endure.

Alex though was quite unresponsive to the tonguing she was receiving. Nice as it was, I pretty quickly started to feel a wee bit bored down there as she lay still as stone, her pussy nevertheless moistening slightly despite her determination not to enjoy herself. So after a brief time we lay of the bed together, Angus wondering if he had made a mistake in his choice today.

After a short time she went down to orally please little A. The bj was okay but with so little enthusiasm that it really was not working and little A remained pretty well asleep. It was then that I decided that I would have to take things into my own hands if this session was to be salvaged at all. With that in mind I arranged her on the bed, pussy in view and started to have a wank. To her credit, Alex was finally receptive to something and when I moved her hand to her pussy she took the hint and also started to play. This got thing going for me and Little A started to respond. So for the next 20 or so minutes this was the program. And Alex did seem to get into it a bit as I arranged her in different positions and had her diddle herself even to the point tat she was penetrating herself quite deeply with her long slender manicured fingers.

At this point I dearly wanted to get my tongue on her ass and when I dove in for a lick I met no resistance and so spent a few minutes licking her sweet clean bum hole-again with little discernible reaction from her. But it satisfied something in me.

Now I was ready to fuck this beauty so I asked for and put on the condom (no help from her) and first tried missionary which was a complete bust due to her passivity. I got her to flip over and she did but also flopped down on the bed flat on her stomach. This position, while nice, also does not work for me with such a passive partner so I hauled her up on her knees and was finished in just a few minutes at which point Alex seemed to just fall asleep until the knock came on the door and I started to dress.

So what to say. She is a beauty but basically a very disappointing fuck to be sure. The cost for her for 45 minutes (30 minutes @ 50 euros would have worked better) was 80 euros. The chances of a rematch are pretty much close to zero. But if you are into a totally passive and beautiful EE girl you might have fun and I have not completely written of L’amour and a destination. But since my first and second visits to Artemis I am questioning the wisdom of frittering away the cash on this sort of encounter when one can make a once monthly visit to The FKK and walk away several hours later feeling totally fucked out and satisfied.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
I had a very pleasant session yesterday with a new KD girl, Klio.[/QUOTE]
Me too : unusual and strange sessions !!!



[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
At the moment there are no pictures but a very good and accurate description on the site. Though Klio did mention that there are pictures coming, perhaps today, Friday.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/klio-e.htm[/url]


[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
... she has a really fantastic body. [/QUOTE]
What a butt/backside !!!


[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
The session was not so usual to tell the truth. [/QUOTE]
I agree


[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
We started off with caressing and light kissing and then moved on to extended pussy licking. She has a very beautiful, well tended garden, shaved with a little “landing strip” on top. And she was very responsive, getting very wet in the process. With me she was open to rimming, some light finger play and lots of clit licking. [/QUOTE]
You are lucky, guy : "I'm not a candy", she told me !



[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
But Klio is very skilled in the tantric arts IMO and what happened was that she gave me one of the better tantric massages that I have had. My only regret is that the time was not enough, by this time, for her to really use her skills in this area.[/QUOTE]
I think (at least with me) she prefers massage


[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
So would I recommend Klio? [/QUOTE]
I don't know but personnally I will try to meet her again in spite of a frustration I may have when I leave ( why a frustration ? see below).


[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
That being said, I am sure that with a different customer she might, and probably is, available for a more wild session. [/QUOTE]
Not with me


[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
I just got the sense that she really tunes into the customer and gives him what she feels he needs in the session. [/QUOTE]
May be. Do I need that (I agree, I needed massage but ... more too)? May be ? I don't know.

======================================

I already met Klio two times in 3 days (Friday and Sunday for a private appointment).
The first time, may be because of a misunderstanding, I only had massage (90 minutes of massage) and then she had another appointment so I had to leave : no sex at all, frustration !!!

Of course, the massage was nice but I think more expensive than at tantrazentrum ( [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=798711&postcount=1097[/url] ) !!!

On sunday I asked for a private appointment (another 90 minutes session)with her : only kisses (no licks) allowed and only on the breast (so no French kisses, for a guy who comes from France furthermore !!! Frustration) that seemed boring for her (and so for me too !!) then she asked me if she might continuing in massage; OK, I found tired of disappointment and gave up thinking of the 90 minutes previous session that seemed being reproduced !!

Anyway, at a moment she took the 69 position but of course I only allowed to "touch and see" !!! Her body seemed to have some reaction, in general, my partner's reactions excite me and then I got an erection ! her cellular phone rang : "we have five minutes" (so 85 minutes already spent essentially in massage; by the way, as I was allowed to do nearly nothing, just to receive massage was not so bad !!!) she said and then we finished in doggy style !!

1) I was really surprised that finally I succeeded in having an erection (and sex) in this way !!! So, I should admit that she is really "efficient".

2) For me it's so "technical" and so I never had this illusion of "making love" : lot of frustration !!!

3) I think I will try to see her tomorrow knowing this time that really I MAY have sex with her (what I was not sure until today) and perhaps I will be a bit more relaxed ?
Am I a gambler combined with a masochist ?

4) As Angus and me had very different (partly opposite) experiences, did somebody else have experiences with her to share ? Was she more "opened" to Angus because he met her when she started at Kamilla-Dee (for example, Angie who kissed me many times at her beginning doesn't kiss (me) any more) or for other reasons (I'm not so young, not caucasian type .. etc ...) ?

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
The pictures of Babsi are not accurate I am sorry to have to say.
[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/babsi-e.htm[/url]

I disagree with you : according to the fact that the photos are often changed a bit to prevent the ladies from being recognized easily ( by their relationships) I found that Babsi looked like to the photos when she was introduced to me (but I didn't have sessions with her).



[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
Juliana

Juliana has a photo on the web site which I found appealing.

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/juliane-e.htm[/url]
....

No kissing ( I did not try) ...
[/QUOTE]
I think so : I did not try either but the position of her head prevented her from kisses. In general, ladies who kiss .... kiss naturally, we don't have to try !!!

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]
but other than that she was very responsive to breast play (beautiful soft, pillowy breasts) and pussy licking.
[/QUOTE]
I agree

Juliana doesn't really like 69 position.

[QUOTE=Bobo.fr]

I already met Klio two times in 3 days (Friday and Sunday for a private appointment).
The first time, may be because of a misunderstanding, I only had massage (90 minutes of massage) and then she had another appointment so I had to leave : no sex at all, frustration !!!

Of course, the massage was nice but I think more expensive than at tantrazentrum ( [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=798711&postcount=1097[/url] ) !!!

On sunday I asked for a private appointment (another 90 minutes session)with her : only kisses (no licks) allowed and only on the breast (so no French kisses, for a guy who comes from France furthermore !!! Frustration) that seemed boring for her (and so for me too !!) then she asked me if she might continuing in massage; OK, I found tired of disappointment and gave up thinking of the 90 minutes previous session that seemed being reproduced !!

Anyway, at a moment she took the 69 position but of course I only allowed to "touch and see" !!! Her body seemed to have some reaction, in general, my partner's reactions excite me and then I got an erection ! her cellular phone rang : "we have five minutes" (so 85 minutes already spent essentially in massage; by the way, as I was allowed to do nearly nothing, just to receive massage was not so bad !!!) she said and then we finished in doggy style !!

1) I was really surprised that finally I succeeded in having an erection (and sex) in this way !!! So, I should admit that she is really "efficient".

2) For me it's so "technical" and so I never had this illusion of "making love" : lot of frustration !!!

3) I think I will try to see her tomorrow knowing this time that really I MAY have sex with her (what I was not sure until today) and perhaps I will be a bit more relaxed ?
Am I a gambler combined with a masochist ?

4) As Angus and me had very different (partly opposite) experiences, did somebody else have experiences with her to share ? Was she more "opened" to Angus because he met her when she started at Kamilla-Dee (for example, Angie who kissed me many times at her beginning doesn't kiss (me) any more) or for other reasons (I'm not so young, not caucasian type .. etc ...) ?[/QUOTE]

Hi,

When I saw Kilo it was within the first week of her start at KD. I think perhaps that she has added more restrictions as time has gone by.

Kilo is, IMO, not by any means a typical working girl. He approach is very tantric and I feel that she has a very well defined set of boundaries, perhaps a few too many to really pass herself off as a *****? I mean let's be honest. You go to KD to fuck, not to get a really good massage with a release. I'm all for going with the flow but it would also be nice to hear from the get go if fucking is only really a "possibility".

Anyway-I admire you for hanging in there with her and hope that your last session goes well and perhaps includes some penetration...

I do remember when I saw Kilo that I was very impressed with her and in fact decided that this was a girl not to see for short sessions. Even 1-2 hours I feel would not really be enough time to fully explore this girl. As it is not really financially viable for me I gave up on seeing her. It is interesting to her another perspective.

Thanks for the report and I look forward to hearing about the third session.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Hi,

When I saw Kilo it was within the first week of her start at KD. I think perhaps that she has added more restrictions as time has gone by.

Kilo is, IMO, not by any means a typical working girl. He approach is very tantric and I feel that she has a very well defined set of boundaries, perhaps a few too many to really pass herself off as a *****? I mean let's be honest. You go to KD to fuck, not to get a really good massage with a release. I'm all for going with the flow but it would also be nice to hear from the get go if fucking is only really a "possibility".

Anyway-I admire you for hanging in there with her and hope that your last session goes well and perhaps includes some penetration...

I do remember when I saw Kilo that I was very impressed with her and in fact decided that this was a girl not to see for short sessions. Even 1-2 hours I feel would not really be enough time to fully explore this girl. As it is not really financially viable for me I gave up on seeing her. It is interesting to her another perspective.

Thanks for the report and I look forward to hearing about the third session.

AM[/QUOTE]

I met Klio for the third time in four days : each day is another day !!!

Today, I did not ask for anything but I saw that she put her pussy slightly in front of my mouth.
Then, their hands took my hands to guide them to produce , I think, a kind of small orgasm in her.
As I lost my erection, (some other ladies would give up) she proposed to try to "reproduce" the erection and ... she succeeded in it ; so we finished in missionary position. (Today, we spent two hours together and the cellular did not ring; I think that yesterday she used the cellular just to warn her the close time (11 PM) of the house).

So I agree that "she has a very well defined set of boundaries" (that seem to change day by day).

I think there is one fact that seems constant with her is that she wants to keep control (and the "leadership") during the whole session ; she encouraged me to tell her what I wanted but she would decide what to do depending on her humor (or moods) on that day.

I was impressed by her efficiency and talent especially according to her young age.

However, at the bottom, I feel that everything still was "technical" (technically efficient but still technical), actually there was no kiss anywhere !

[QUOTE=Bobo.fr]I met Klio for the third time in four days : each day is another day !!!

Today, I did not ask for anything but I saw that she put her pussy slightly in front of my mouth.
Then, their hands took my hands to guide them to produce , I think, a kind of small orgasm in her.
As I lost my erection, (some other ladies would give up) she proposed to try to "reproduce" the erection and ... she succeeded in it ; so we finished in missionary position. (Today, we spent two hours together and the cellular did not ring; I think that yesterday she used the cellular just to warn her the close time (11 PM) of the house).

So I agree that "she has a very well defined set of boundaries" (that seem to change day by day).

I think there is one fact that seems constant with her is that she wants to keep control (and the "leadership") during the whole session ; she encouraged me to tell her what I wanted but she would decide what to do depending on her humor (or moods) on that day.

I was impressed by her efficiency and talent especially according to her young age.

However, at the bottom, I feel that everything still was "technical" (technically efficient but still technical), actually there was no kiss anywhere ![/QUOTE]

Thanks for the report. She is a lovely young woman. I would love to date her. Don't think I will pay for her services though unless some big pile o' cash falls in my lap;-)

on a Thursday evening?

I will be visiting FKK the very next day, but I want to spend one evening in Berlin just mongering around and flirt with some women. If it leads to something, great. I figure there are probably a few known hotels or areas of town (i.e. red light district) someone may kindly reccomend.

I also imagine this same questions was asked before, apologize as I am being lazy and not doing a search!

Take care all, Gruss,

[QUOTE=Dave Jamsis]on a Thursday evening?

I will be visiting FKK the very next day, but I want to spend one evening in Berlin just mongering around and flirt with some women. If it leads to something, great. I figure there are probably a few known hotels or areas of town (i.e. red light district) someone may kindly reccomend.

I also imagine this same questions was asked before, apologize as I am being lazy and not doing a search!

Take care all, Gruss,[/QUOTE]
I suggest you find Angus' extensive listing of Wohnungspuffs, etc.. under this forum:

[post]776339[/post]

Print it out and bring it with. I've not come across any listing anywhere which matches it.

Also, read my post below in answer to a previous question of where to find semi-professionals in Berlin outside of the Sexkinos, FKK clubs, strip clubs and Wohnungspuffs. I dug this list up on the RF.

[post]783851[/post]

There is also the Cafe Pssst! Marlow also just mentioned it on the FKK forum.

[QUOTE=Dave Jamsis]on a Thursday evening?

I will be visiting FKK the very next day, but I want to spend one evening in Berlin just mongering around and flirt with some women. If it leads to something, great. I figure there are probably a few known hotels or areas of town (i.e. red light district) someone may kindly reccomend.

I also imagine this same questions was asked before, apologize as I am being lazy and not doing a search!

Take care all, Gruss,[/QUOTE]

I am not at all sure what you are after exactly. Are you looking for regular pick up bars? or more a place where you will pay the lady directly. If the later, as Jackyo suggested take a look at my Berlin guide. If the former, well, if I knew that maybe I wouldn't be such a dedicated monger...

I guess you could check out Mitte as there are many, many bars in that area-around Hackechermkt(not sure of the spelling)-but it would likely be a pretty young crowd and all that that entails.

Good Luck

Hi all,

I am new to the forum and fairly new to the whole experience (have only visited independant escorts previously). Some of the reports sounds so good I was thinking of taking a holiday in Berlin and visit a few places.

I'm thinking KLD looks like a good place to start for a newby.

I'm also drawn to the pussyclub, it sounds like a really exciting experience and is only 70-100 euro (so little to loose). Can anyone who has visited tell me more about the guy/girl ratio, age range of guys, type of clientele. I only speak a little German and am concerned I might stand out- I'm also not blessed with the biggest cock (probably too much info to share on a first post) and would be put off if there were a lot of pornstar wannabes.

Can anyone provide some advice.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Soriano991]Hi all,

I am new to the forum and fairly new to the whole experience (have only visited independant escorts previously). Some of the reports sounds so good I was thinking of taking a holiday in Berlin and visit a few places.

I'm thinking KLD looks like a good place to start for a newby.

I'm also drawn to the pussyclub, it sounds like a really exciting experience and is only 70-100 euro (so little to loose). Can anyone who has visited tell me more about the guy/girl ratio, age range of guys, type of clientele. I only speak a little German and am concerned I might stand out- I'm also not blessed with the biggest cock (probably too much info to share on a first post) and would be put off if there were a lot of pornstar wannabes.

Can anyone provide some advice.

Thanks[/QUOTE]
.. under the Partytreff thread.

I've not been myself so I can't comment on it specifically.

The thing about visiting a Partytreff is to enjoy yourself. Despite what you may think, nobody cares what you look like or what you do. Nobody is on the sidelines making comments about you. They are all busy with their own (sexual) needs.

There are dudes who visit Partytreffs who stand out more than you do.

In NRW, there is a one-armed man I've come across several times during my club visits. (He could very well be the one armed man that Dr. Richard Kimble of "The Fugitive" was looking for.) Once at PT Dorsten there were two armless dudes who dropped in to partake in the debauchery.

It always amazes me that though the Germans are quite [i]sportlich[/i] there are huge numbers of really obese dudes out there who you come across at these clubs. I mean huge as in the size of a polled Hereford or a Holsteiner.

So relax. Just be yourself. Poke at whoever you want to. And when you feel like going back and poking at her again, just go do it. This is what it is about. Don't be repressed.

[QUOTE=Soriano991]Hi all,

I am new to the forum and fairly new to the whole experience (have only visited independant escorts previously). Some of the reports sounds so good I was thinking of taking a holiday in Berlin and visit a few places.

I'm thinking KLD looks like a good place to start for a newby.

I'm also drawn to the pussyclub, it sounds like a really exciting experience and is only 70-100 euro (so little to loose). Can anyone who has visited tell me more about the guy/girl ratio, age range of guys, type of clientele. I only speak a little German and am concerned I might stand out- I'm also not blessed with the biggest cock (probably too much info to share on a first post) and would be put off if there were a lot of pornstar wannabes.

Can anyone provide some advice.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Hi,

Not exactly sure from your post what you are looking for other than experience so perhaps the PussyClub is a good destination.

On the other hand, for me a place whose main thrust of their marketing is cheap pussy? I like cheap pussy as much as the next guy but I also recognize that sometimes you get what you pay for. I have never been to TPC or any other partytreff but from what I understand, with this experience, atmosphere is everything, meaning that you have to find a club where the girls are satisfied financially and generally well taken care of. I have my doubts about TPC as far as this goes. And remember, just speculation on my part.

Personally I would suggest Artemis, though not cheap by any means, it is a fun atmosphere and you can try out almost anything there including some very public sex in the kino area.

As for being less than well endowed? I am sure nobody really cares about this except maybe you. The girls I talk to want a customer who is pleasant and respectful, not one who can fill them with cock. In fact I think that if you had a monster schlong swinging about between your legs maybe more ladies would avoid that than a tiny pecker. Too small is a male insecurity that few women even notice. Though there are exceptions just as there are men who search out monster breasts.

In short-don't worry about it.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]As for being less than well endowed? I am sure nobody really cares about this except maybe you. The girls I talk to want a customer who is pleasant and respectful, not one who can fill them with cock. In fact I think that if you had a monster schlong swinging about between your legs maybe more ladies would avoid that than a tiny pecker. Too small is a male insecurity that few women even notice. Though there are exceptions just as there are men who search out monster breasts.

In short-don't worry about it.[/QUOTE]
Women have actually said to me that they would prefer not to have to deal with outsized equipment.

Some of them are physically not able to accomodate it and they'd much rather not.

I regularly see someone here locally. We have a nice level of familiarity and we often talk about what she likes and doesn't like. She says sex should create a pleasant sense of fullness but not of being stretched to the limit. I once poked at her a little too vigorously and she had to ask me to ease up because I was touching her cervix. Seems that reaching in that far is not pleasant.

[QUOTE=Jackyo]Women have actually said to me that they would prefer not to have to deal with outsized equipment.

Some of them are physically not able to accomodate it and they'd much rather not.

I regularly see someone here locally. We have a nice level of familiarity and we often talk about what she likes and doesn't like. She says sex should create a pleasant sense of fullness but not of being stretched to the limit. I once poked at her a little too vigorously and she had to ask me to ease up because I was touching her cervix. Seems that reaching in that far is not pleasant.[/QUOTE]

I always find it somehow funny how much many men worry about the size of their unit and how little women care. Even failing to attain an erection is not a hanging offense to most women as long as the man stays with the situation and handles it with some humor.

Conversely, many women think that their breasts are just too tiny and walk around covering them up when some men (such as your truly) are completely nuts about small breasts.

I guess such is human nature.

Do my esteemed elders have an opinion comparing Berlin to Prague. Exclusive of the clubs and FKK's, which city is superior? I am especially interested in your experiences with outcall escorts.

Looking forward to the various inputs.

[QUOTE=Jackyo]

The thing about visiting a Partytreff is to enjoy yourself. Despite what you may think, nobody cares what you look like or what you do. Nobody is on the sidelines making comments about you. They are all busy with their own (sexual) needs.

There are dudes who visit Partytreffs who stand out more than you do.

In NRW, there is a one-armed man I've come across several times during my club visits. (He could very well be the one armed man that Dr. Richard Kimble of "The Fugitive" was looking for.) Once at PT Dorsten there were two armless dudes who dropped in to partake in the debauchery.

It always amazes me that though the Germans are quite [i]sportlich[/i] there are huge numbers of really obese dudes out there who you come across at these clubs. I mean huge as in the size of a polled Hereford or a Holsteiner.

So relax. Just be yourself. Poke at whoever you want to. And when you feel like going back and poking at her again, just go do it. This is what it is about. Don't be repressed.[/QUOTE]

Jackyo, while we're on this topic, do you know if it's acceptable just to attend a PT but not to participate sexually at all?

What I mean basically is just to sit up at the bar or wherever, partake of a few beers and sit back and enjoy the atmosphere, goings-on etc.

Or would the others there consider that kind of behaviour a bit inhibiting?

Reading the reports in the PT section at places like Mettmann etc, it seems as soon as you get settled then you're approached, chatted-up, fondled etc...

So I'm surmising if you're not willing to get 'down and dirty' then this could be a little disconcerting for the others and considered 'bad sport'?

I understand the etiquette in Swinger Clubs is 'Alles kann, nichts muss' but is it the same, I wonder, in PT clubs?

Or does nobody really give a toss whether you join-in or not ???

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I always find it somehow funny how much many men worry about the size of their unit and how little women care. Even failing to attain an erection is not a hanging offense to most women as long as the man stays with the situation and handles it with some humor.

Conversely, many women think that their breasts are just too tiny and walk around covering them up when some men (such as your truly) are completely nuts about small breasts.

I guess such is human nature.[/QUOTE]
I fully agree with my esteemed colleagues.

Although it's been rumored that I am blessed with a porn star tool (LOL), it's actually only an average model. Yet, invariably, when I am with Asian women, they comment on its size, and I find, that I easily fill them up and almost always bring them to a vaginal orgasm, something that is not as easy to accomplish with non- Asians. BTW, many of them also find body hair to be exotic and a turn on, while in many Western societies it's normal and excess body hair may be a turn off.

It's not the size of the equipment that matters, but whether or not you know how to use the tools that you are provided with to get the job done.

I'm a breast man (then again, I'm also an ass man, a legs man, a face man, a hair man and a neck man) but prefer a nice natural set to some of the outrageous enhanced sets of mammaries that are often seen at the clubs. Yet, we've all met SP with perfectly serviceable breasts, who are saving up for a boob job. I often find myself, building up her own body self-esteem, by telling her how attractive I find her natural gifts, how many men prefer the natural feel to the heft of silicone and saline, and trying to dissuade her from going under the knife. I tell her that you don't tinker with perfection.

And I tell them, "It's not the size of the equipment that matters, but whether or not you know how to use the tools that you are provided with to get the job done."

[QUOTE=Gergiev]Jackyo, while we're on this topic, do you know if it's acceptable just to attend a PT but not to participate sexually at all?

What I mean basically is just to sit up at the bar or wherever, partake of a few beers and sit back and enjoy the atmosphere, goings-on etc.

Or would the others there consider that kind of behaviour a bit inhibiting?

Reading the reports in the PT section at places like Mettmann etc, it seems as soon as you get settled then you're approached, chatted-up, fondled etc...

So I'm surmising if you're not willing to get 'down and dirty' then this could be a little disconcerting for the others and considered 'bad sport'?

I understand the etiquette in Swinger Clubs is 'Alles kann, nichts muss' but is it the same, I wonder, in PT clubs?

Or does nobody really give a toss whether you join-in or not ???[/QUOTE]
Well no one will find it inhibiting or disconcerting, a little strange maybe, but everyone will get over it really quickly and go along on their own business, leaving you alone if you so desire.

You probably will not be the most popular person in the club that day as the girls may feel slightly insulted by your perceived rejection of all of them. What type of guy turns down multiple offers for sex, that are basically free since you've already paid the entrance fee?

Not sure if I understand the rationalization for a physically healthy male going to a sex club, paying to get in with no intent to participate, but alles kann, nicht muss, works in this environment too and if that's how you get your kicks, the clubs will be happy to take your Euros.

[QUOTE=Iseeu]Well no one will find it inhibiting or disconcerting, a little strange maybe, but everyone will get over it really quickly and go along on their own business, leaving you alone if you so desire.

You probably will not be the most popular person in the club that day as the girls may feel slightly insulted by your perceived rejection of all of them. What type of guy turns down multiple offers for sex, that are basically free since you've already paid the entrance fee?

Not sure if I understand the rationalization for a physically healthy male going to a sex club, paying to get in with no intent to participate, but alles kann, nicht muss, works in this environment too and if that's how you get your kicks, the clubs will be happy to take your Euros.[/QUOTE]

Iseeu, thanks for that. As all my previous experience is with escorts etc in a private environment I'm not sure how a visit to a PT would turn out for me. I guess I'm working on a default position/exit strategy if my nerve was to fail under these conditions or if the house ladies didn't really do anything for me...standards seem to vary at PT clubs.

However reading all about it here has certainly, er, aroused my curiosity...

I may also be thinking of the reports from Bernd's which seems to be full of German locals/regulars who attend but don't necessarily appear to get involved in the 'action' ??

But there again perhaps that's because that's an FKK club although the raunchiest one around going by reports...

[QUOTE=Gergiev]Jackyo, while we're on this topic, do you know if it's acceptable just to attend a PT but not to participate sexually at all?

What I mean basically is just to sit up at the bar or wherever, partake of a few beers and sit back and enjoy the atmosphere, goings-on etc.

Or would the others there consider that kind of behaviour a bit inhibiting?

Reading the reports in the PT section at places like Mettmann etc, it seems as soon as you get settled then you're approached, chatted-up, fondled etc...

So I'm surmising if you're not willing to get 'down and dirty' then this could be a little disconcerting for the others and considered 'bad sport'?

I understand the etiquette in Swinger Clubs is 'Alles kann, nichts muss' but is it the same, I wonder, in PT clubs?

Or does nobody really give a toss whether you join-in or not ???[/QUOTE]
If you just want to sit back and watch the public proceedings, that shouldn't be a problem.

At some PTs the women do the approaching. At some others, you will have to approach them.

Mettmann is, however, a special case.

A dude sitting alone at this club will soon have one of the "girls" coming up to him asking why he is sitting alone (assuming that the club isn't full). She will sit with you and before you know it, you've got your thing inside her mouth or other orifice.

The bar area at Mettmann is particularly unsafe. I've seen bar top dancing there, wanton displays of tits, ass or pussy and gratuitous BJs and even poking.

Is there a place there to hide at Mettmann? Not really. Anyone in the sauna, z. B., is considered fair game. (See Iseeu's post on his last visit.)

All of this female aggressiveness can be traumatizing. Those of us who've experienced it are permanently scarred for life. This is why we get together on this forum to write about it. Its a form of therapy.

I wouldn't say "no" to these advances. Even if I had said "no" a certain part of me would be quite rigid and giving its assent.

Reminds me of a session I had with a chick at Samya. We'd done the nasty deed and were just kind of lying in bed chatting when she starts to really talk dirty to me.

Then something catches her attention. She looks down and says: "This kind of talk is turning you on, isn't it?" Dicks don't lie. She was turning me on again and a single session turned into a multiple session.

In the end, let your dick decide. It knows best.

[QUOTE=Iseeu]It's not the size of the equipment that matters, but whether or not you know how to use the tools that you are provided with to get the job done.

I'm a breast man (then again, I'm also an ass man, a legs man, a face man, a hair man and a neck man) but prefer a nice natural set to some of the outrageous enhanced sets of mammaries that are often seen at the clubs. Yet, we've all met SP with perfectly serviceable breasts, who are saving up for a boob job. I often find myself, building up her own body self-esteem, by telling her how attractive I find her natural gifts, how many men prefer the natural feel to the heft of silicone and saline, and trying to dissuade her from going under the knife. I tell her that you don't tinker with perfection.[/QUOTE]
An ex-girlfriend has said to me though that once dicks in a flaccid, spent state, they have all of the charm of a rubber chicken. Which is true. It looks so much better when it is standing tall and rigid as a telephone pole.

I had a conversation the last time with a chick who though her lower lips were misshapen and that she thought she should have them made more esthetically pleasing: they were larger and fuller on side which I thought was appealing but she was of a different opinion.

[QUOTE=JohnThomas0519]Do my esteemed elders have an opinion comparing Berlin to Prague. Exclusive of the clubs and FKK's, which city is superior? I am especially interested in your experiences with outcall escorts.

Looking forward to the various inputs.[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=681219&postcount=774[/url]

[QUOTE=Jackyo]If you just want to sit back and watch the public proceedings, that shouldn't be a problem.

At some PTs the women do the approaching. At some others, you will have to approach them.

Mettmann is, however, a special case.

A dude sitting alone at this club will soon have one of the "girls" coming up to him asking why he is sitting alone (assuming that the club isn't full). She will sit with you and before you know it, you've got your thing inside her mouth or other orifice.

The bar area at Mettmann is particularly unsafe. I've seen bar top dancing there, wanton displays of tits, ass or pussy and gratuitous BJs and even poking.

Is there a place there to hide at Mettmann? Not really. Anyone in the sauna, z. B., is considered fair game. (See Iseeu's post on his last visit.)

All of this female aggressiveness can be traumatizing. Those of us who've experienced it are permanently scarred for life. This is why we get together on this forum to write about it. Its a form of therapy.

I wouldn't say "no" to these advances. Even if I had said "no" a certain part of me would be quite rigid and giving its assent.

Reminds me of a session I had with a chick at Samya. We'd done the nasty deed and were just kind of lying in bed chatting when she starts to really talk dirty to me.

Then something catches her attention. She looks down and says: "This kind of talk is turning you on, isn't it?" Dicks don't lie. She was turning me on again and a single session turned into a multiple session.

In the end, let your dick decide. It knows best.[/QUOTE]

Jackyo, thanks for that, a very comprehensive reply...

I think I read previously the best way to introduce one's self to this scene would be to go Sauna Club, FKK, Swinger Club then PT Club which seems like a good progression if you have the time and opportunity at your disposal...

[QUOTE=Iseeu]Well no one will find it inhibiting or disconcerting, a little strange maybe, but everyone will get over it really quickly and go along on their own business, leaving you alone if you so desire.

You probably will not be the most popular person in the club that day as the girls may feel slightly insulted by your perceived rejection of all of them. What type of guy turns down multiple offers for sex, that are basically free since you've already paid the entrance fee?

Not sure if I understand the rationalization for a physically healthy male going to a sex club, paying to get in with no intent to participate, but alles kann, nicht muss, works in this environment too and if that's how you get your kicks, the clubs will be happy to take your Euros.[/QUOTE]

Iseeu, I just noticed the title on your post, ie 'Voyeur in PT Land'. Actually that's not what I was driving at (although I can understand reading it back how it could be construed that way).

What I meant was as a first-time PT visitor who might sit up at the bar, get a drink or two in to settle the nerves while getting their bearings and deciding if this particular scene was for them.

Then, even if public performance wasn't for them they might end up staying and enjoying the, er, somewhat Bachanalian atmosphere...and of course as you've paid the entrance fee, then you might as well get your money's worth in food and drink...

But in an ideal world, not how I'd be looking to get my kicks, so to speak!

I wouldn't necessarily call this voyeurism, just another form of decadent relaxation, perhaps...

If it was voyeurism I was after, then I might have been called I-see-u ;-)

[QUOTE=Gergiev]But in an ideal world, not how I'd be looking to get my kicks, so to speak!

I wouldn't necessarily call this voyeurism, just another form of decadent relaxation, perhaps...

If it was voyeurism I was after, then I might have been called I-see-u ;-)[/QUOTE]
Hey, There's nothing wrong with just perving. No need for an explanation or to be apologetic.

It is a great type of place for some "decadent relaxation", and it's one of the things that are great about the really good FKK clubs, swinger clubs and partytreffs. It's a great show, the greatest show on earth, an overload of sensory sights.

And congrats on decoding my moniker. Yes, I like to watch.
(Peter Sellers, "Being There" [url]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078841/[/url]).

But I also like to plant my seed and spread my root...(you have to see the movie to get this)

[QUOTE=Gergiev]Jackyo, thanks for that, a very comprehensive reply...

I think I read previously the best way to introduce one's self to this scene would be to go Sauna Club, FKK, Swinger Club then PT Club which seems like a good progression if you have the time and opportunity at your disposal...[/QUOTE]
Not a problem at all, dude!

Yes, there is a progression. I didn't make the leap to sex out in the open in one bound. I started out with visits to clubs where women did BJs on the couches in full view of the rest of the room but then we'd stand up and grab a room. Then there were women who did the preliminaries on the couch and then just proceeded to impaling themselves on me right there and then. Then there was sex in rooms without doors. And then before you knew it I didn't care whether there were other folks around me or not.

Its a natural, healthy function and there shouldn't be any shame attached to it. Everyone does it.

I think what guys fear though is that the equipment might not work under pressure or that the audience will start making comments in the background.

I tune out on the audience. They can be there or not there and I'd still have my fun.

If you want to ease yourself into it, you might visit one of the premium pricing PTs which are PTs in name only. I say this because, they mostly have their activities in private rooms. Poleposition and PT Traumland would be among them. I say premium pricing because they have two pricing schemes: 99 Euro for three hours and 150 Euros for the whole day.

They will let you pick the cheaper alternative and after three hours decide on doing an upgrade if you want.

As some guys on the RF have pointed out, these clubs aren't really PTs but more Pauschalclubs: pay one price, you can do it with whoever you want as often as you want. The true sense of a PT is that everything is done out in the open.

You might also visit PT Dolce Vita in Wagenfeld. You have the option of either full, out in the open sex or going to a "private" room. I say "private" because the rooms don't have doors and folks wandering by can watch.

I was screwing Suzi once in one of those rooms when a regular she knows comes by, stands in the doorway and starts telling her about his last vacation. I don't stop at all, just keep at it while all of this is going on. It borders on the surreal. When I stand up to leave, the other dude comes in for his session.

At least he was polite enough to just stand at the door. At some of the other PTs when they are full the guys (usually groups of younger ethnic dudes) will sit on the mattress with you and your chick and make rude comments. This is not cool.

The only club though where true group sex takes place is PT Mettmann. Everyone piles onto the communal bed and finds someone to get together with. You can just move from one partner to the next. Find an empty hole and go poke at it. The women don't even turn around to find out who is poking at them.

At the other PTs (even the wildest ones), you almost never go to the communal bed unless you have a partner. And when you are done, the women will yell at you to shower first before you have a follow on session. Get used to it: "Dusche!"

[QUOTE=Jackyo]

I had a conversation the last time with a chick who though her lower lips were misshapen and that she thought she should have them made more esthetically pleasing: they were larger and fuller on side which I thought was appealing but she was of a different opinion.[/QUOTE]

Mein Gott. I would pay extra for a girl with nice, beautifully shaped, big pussy lips. I just love the big hanging curtains;-)

[QUOTE=Iseeu]Hey, There's nothing wrong with just perving. No need for an explanation or to be apologetic.

It is a great type of place for some "decadent relaxation", and it's one of the things that are great about the really good FKK clubs, swinger clubs and partytreffs. It's a great show, the greatest show on earth, an overload of sensory sights.

And congrats on decoding my moniker. Yes, I like to watch.
(Peter Sellers, "Being There" [url]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078841/[/url]).

But I also like to plant my seed and spread my root...(you have to see the movie to get this)[/QUOTE]

Nothing at all wrong with a bit of perving. In my experience perving only has "bad" (meaning unpleasant) energy when one is surreptitious about, when one tries to hide it. Good honest perving is one of the reasons I love to monger.

Myself, I love to watch and with my recent experience at Artemis, in the Kino, found that fucking in public can be quite stimulating. This surprised me some as I really thought little A would object to a public display.

This Partytreff scene is sounding more and more interesting.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Mein Gott. I would pay extra for a girl with nice, beautifully shaped, big pussy lips. I just love the big hanging curtains;-)[/QUOTE]You might want to book some time with Lucy at Liberty. Wonderful girls and full lips

[QUOTE=Iseeu]Hey, There's nothing wrong with just perving. No need for an explanation or to be apologetic.

And congrats on decoding my moniker. Yes, I like to watch.
(Peter Sellers, "Being There" [url]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078841/[/url]).

But I also like to plant my seed and spread my root...(you have to see the movie to get this)[/QUOTE]

Aahhh...now I understand...when you say perving you mean like that scene where Shirley McClaine gets herself off while Chauncey turns his back and watches TV...

Now I know exactly how to behave in a PT ;-))

[QUOTE=Jackyo]

If you want to ease yourself into it, you might visit one of the premium pricing PTs which are PTs in name only. I say this because, they mostly have their activities in private rooms. Poleposition and PT Traumland would be among them. I say premium pricing because they have two pricing schemes: 99 Euro for three hours and 150 Euros for the whole day.

They will let you pick the cheaper alternative and after three hours decide on doing an upgrade if you want.

As some guys on the RF have pointed out, these clubs aren't really PTs but more Pauschalclubs: pay one price, you can do it with whoever you want as often as you want. The true sense of a PT is that everything is done out in the open.

You might also visit PT Dolce Vita in Wagenfeld. You have the option of either full, out in the open sex or going to a "private" room. I say "private" because the rooms don't have doors and folks wandering by can watch.

At the other PTs (even the wildest ones), you almost never go to the communal bed unless you have a partner. And when you are done, the women will yell at you to shower first before you have a follow on session. Get used to it: "Dusche!"[/QUOTE]

Thanks Boss!

Sounds like a good steer above...

So Pauschalclubs are probably the missing link between FKKs and PTs...it's getting like the Roman church where you keep going up in gradations from Priest to Pope (with apologies to your friends in the RoemerForum!!)...

And thanks for the 'Dusche' tip...otherwise with the euphoria of the occasion and atmosphere I might have assumed they were egging me on to do my Mussolini impresssion ;-)

[QUOTE=Gergiev]Thanks Boss!

Sounds like a good steer above...

So Pauschalclubs are probably the missing link between FKKs and PTs...it's getting like the Roman church where you keep going up in gradations from Priest to Pope (with apologies to your friends in the RoemerForum!!)...

And thanks for the 'Dusche' tip...otherwise with the euphoria of the occasion and atmosphere I might have assumed they were egging me on to do my Mussolini impresssion ;-)[/QUOTE]
Yes, you got it! Pauschalclubs are the missing link in the evolution from discrete, behind-the-scenes encounters at FKK clubs and full-in-your-face raw sex at PTs.

What I wish the PT girls would do is drag me into a shower with them. They always seem to want to shower by themselves. A pair of extra hands would make it easier to reach those hard-to-reach spots.

Enjoy your trip and let us know how it goes.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Mein Gott. I would pay extra for a girl with nice, beautifully shaped, big pussy lips. I just love the big hanging curtains;-)[/QUOTE]
.. worked at Wiago and you could tie a bowline with her lips.

[QUOTE=Gtrock123]You might want to book some time with Lucy at Liberty. Wonderful girls and full lips[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the tip. Anything you can say about her service? Hell, I'll probably book half an hour regardless and just perv out on her lips.

[QUOTE=Jackyo].. worked at Wiago and you could tie a bowline with her lips.[/QUOTE]

Saw a stripper once in Canada whose thing was tying her self to a straight back chair with her labia. Yumm!

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Thanks for the tip. Anything you can say about her service? Hell, I'll probably book half an hour regardless and just perv out on her lips.[/QUOTE]Great service, very friendly and accommodating

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Nothing at all wrong with a bit of perving. In my experience perving only has "bad" (meaning unpleasant) energy when one is surreptitious about, when one tries to hide it. Good honest perving is one of the reasons I love to monger.

Myself, I love to watch and with my recent experience at Artemis, in the Kino, found that fucking in public can be quite stimulating. This surprised me some as I really thought little A would object to a public display.

This Partytreff scene is sounding more and more interesting.

AM[/QUOTE]I too moved up a level to sex in the kino on my last visit to Artemis (my 3rd)

I was in the Kino recovering when I was approached as usual but she was so much "my type", petite, great proportions and a baby face. I thought that the usual BJ would perhaps get me going again and then move to a room at the back of the kino, but she suggested doing there and I agreed - WOW what a turn on!

I will be back in Berlin next Wednesday (3rd) and will be visiting Artemis again if anyone would like to join me

[QUOTE=A Fox]

I will be back in Berlin next Wednesday (3rd) and will be visiting Artemis again if anyone would like to join me[/QUOTE]

I may be up for a Wednesday evening visit-work dependent of course. It is a busy time of year for me.

Will let you know vis pm perhaps on Tuesday.

What time were you planning?

Hi does anyone have any experience of this club in Berlin?

[url]http://pc-paerchenclub.de/pc-english/index1.htm[/url]

It looks like it may be an exciting place to go on my visit to Berlin next week as I feel as though I should try some of the other haunts in the city rather than simply returning to Artemis for another time.

But I am concerned whether I would be welcomed as a single male and one that only speaks English with absolutely NO German at my command.

Looking forward to some advice or perhaps it will be Artemis again - but what the hell that is a great place to be also

I was planning a mongering trip to Thailand, but there is a coup in the works there, with airports shut down. What a bummer. Well, sometimes you can take a lemon and make lemonade. So I'm now considering moving forward my spring trip that I was planning to check out the fkk's. My question is how is the activity level in the fkk's, this time of the year? I will be taking a 1-week trip from the US, is there enough going on to support a week worth of pussy hunting? Is weather a factor big enough to be prohibitive? Lastly, considering that the sole purpose of my trip is mongering, would you recommend any other cities intead?

Thanks a lot in advance for your input. And as usual, promise to post any unique experiences.

[QUOTE=Jayf1970]I was planning a mongering trip to Thailand, but there is a coup in the works there, with airports shut down. What a bummer. Well, sometimes you can take a lemon and make lemonade. So I'm now considering moving forward my spring trip that I was planning to check out the fkk's. My question is how is the activity level in the fkk's, this time of the year? I will be taking a 1-week trip from the US, is there enough going on to support a week worth of pussy hunting? Is weather a factor big enough to be prohibitive? Lastly, considering that the sole purpose of my trip is mongering, would you recommend any other cities intead?

Thanks a lot in advance for your input. And as usual, promise to post any unique experiences.[/QUOTE]

Hi,

I would say, first off, that if the primary objective of your trip is FKK then you would be best to visit a town other than Berlin. Berlin has only 1 FKK (Artemis) and by some reports it is not even the best in Germany. But this is open to interpretation of course and opinion.

Now if you also want to visit bordellos then I think Berlin could be a good destination as there are some rather fine establishments here. Have a look in the Reports of Distinction thread and find my Berlin guide. It will give a pretty good overview of what is available here.

You might also post this question in the FKK section (General Inquiries) for one of the FKK specialists to consider.

[QUOTE=Jayf1970]I was planning a mongering trip to Thailand, but there is a coup in the works there, with airports shut down. What a bummer. Well, sometimes you can take a lemon and make lemonade. So I'm now considering moving forward my spring trip that I was planning to check out the fkk's. My question is how is the activity level in the fkk's, this time of the year? I will be taking a 1-week trip from the US, is there enough going on to support a week worth of pussy hunting? Is weather a factor big enough to be prohibitive? Lastly, considering that the sole purpose of my trip is mongering, would you recommend any other cities intead?

Thanks a lot in advance for your input. And as usual, promise to post any unique experiences.[/QUOTE]
If you are going now, you shouldn't have a problem.

If you delay your trip till Christmas/New Year's, you will find most clubs are not fully staffed. The girls do want to spend time with their families too.

Have you been to an FKK club before?

I don't recommend going to Berlin if you've not been to one ever. Better off to start either in Hessen or in NRW.

I don't visit the Hessen clubs myself but if you land in Frankfurt the Hessen Three (and the girls who work these clubs) will gladly take your money.

Land in Frankfurt, stay in Frankfurt. Problem solved.

Or land in Koeln and/or Duesseldorf and visit the [i]Grenzgebietclubs[/i].

Best of all, start your career by visiting Samya in Koeln. You can't go wrong.

Mind you that I am sending you down the beaten path.

Weather? It doesn't snow in Germany like it snows where I live. Its positively balmy in comparison even in the middle of the winter.

[QUOTE=A Fox]Hi does anyone have any experience of this club in Berlin?

[url]http://pc-paerchenclub.de/pc-english/index1.htm[/url]

It looks like it may be an exciting place to go on my visit to Berlin next week as I feel as though I should try some of the other haunts in the city rather than simply returning to Artemis for another time.

But I am concerned whether I would be welcomed as a single male and one that only speaks English with absolutely NO German at my command.
[/QUOTE]
I was there about 3 or 4 years ago on a weeknight. It's a swingers club so there is no gurantee of anything- no way to know how many people are there, number of women vs. number of men, no clear idea of the type or appearance of the other players and no guarantee of sex. There will be more action on weekends.

As with all swinger club experiences YMMV. It certainly is different than an FKK club experience but impossible to compare, apples and oranges...Berlin, BTW, is probably the Swingers club capital of Germany with well over 20 clubs in the Berlin area, so if you want to try one out there is plenty of variety to choose from.

Place is OK in Eastern side of the city. You'll have no problem as a single male, unless they're having a couples-only night, but you may feel left out and may find it hard to connect with the swinger ladies if you don't speak the language.

Njoy

I will seek advice from the FKK section. The reason I thought of Berlin in the first place, is that when I spent a little bit of time browsing the fkk thread a while ago, there seemed to be a good amount of orgy action in Berlin, which is something I want to try out. Yes, I have been to one fkk - Atmos in Hamburg. I saw what I liked and want to try more at bigger better clubs.

[QUOTE=Iseeu]I was there about 3 or 4 years ago on a weeknight. It's a swingers club so there is no gurantee of anything- no way to know how many people are there, number of women vs. number of men, no clear idea of the type or appearance of the other players and no guarantee of sex. There will be more action on weekends.[/QUOTE]Many thanks for this useful information.

I think that given it will be a week night that I would be there and the uncertainty about the language, I think I might give it a miss this time and wait until I have the opportunity of a weekend visit

Back to Artemis where I know what is available and it appears the possibility of meeting up with Angus

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I may be up for a Wednesday evening visit-work dependent of course. It is a busy time of year for me.

Will let you know vis pm perhaps on Tuesday.

What time were you planning?[/QUOTE]I will be arriving in Berlin in the early afternoon so was intending to go late afternoon early evening for a few hours until about 9 or 10p.m.

I have just applied for membership so will look out for your pm when I arrvive and hope to be able to meet up. It would be great to meet a fellow mongerer.

Hi! A few years back, I visited a strip club in Charlottenburg. It was just off from the main street (Kantstrasse? ) I think. The place was called the Banana Bar or something silly. It was pretty small, and had a bar right in front when you came in through the door. To the right were a few sofas and a bit further in a couple of private areas where the girls did private dancing (lubing themselves up). I had a really good time there and a few of the gals provided "special services" in the adjacent building. Anyone know of the place and the address? We kinda walked around for a bit in the area 'til we found this place. So I'm not sure I'll find myself back, and if it's still open. Anyone got any feedback I'd be grateful.

[QUOTE=Bubba999]Hi Guys,

...coming to Berlin later this month and always enjoy an outcall to the hotel for some variation - Does anyone have experience with this agency?

[url]http://www.escort-desire.de[/url]

Girls look nice - but maybe too nice for the price...?

Any feedback (esp from german speakers who might have seen other info) is welcomed.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Angus Magee]I posted about this some months back,
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=777398&postcount=1007[/url]
though the agency was then called La Diva Escorts. But it is the same place with the same girls as this agency:

[url]http://www.intimer-escort.de/[/url]
The one girl, who is on both the web site you posted
[url]http://www.escort-desire.de/foto-berlin/cameliaphoto-en.htm[/url]
and intimer escort
[url]http://www.intimer-escort.de/girls/nadia/index.html[/url]
Has photos that are two years old by the date stamps on the photos.
[url]http://www.intimer-escort.de/girls/nadia/galerie/6.jpg[/url]
This rings alarm bells for me. I would not go near this agency. I smell a bait & switch. But if you do decide to book a session, please do write a report.[/QUOTE]Thanks to taking that up again. Because im planing to go back soon, and she still look so hot. But the alarmbells you talking about sounds logical.

Its this girl who would make me a try: [url]http://www.escort-desire.de/foto-berlin/jennaphoto-en.htm[/url]

Hi Kid Icarus

I did get in touch with this agency via Hamburg but I did not end up making a booking - they sounded OK on the phone - not much to go on I know..

May be the following adresses are interesting for you:

Berlin-Neukölln:

[url]www.karl-marx-str13.de[/url] : at present good girls with good service

[url]www.hp-2.de[/url] : it depends

[url]www.lala203b.de[/url] : it depends

Berlin-Kreuzberg:

[url]www.club-sternchen.de[/url] : it depends

Berlin-Tiergarten:

[url]www.lamour2a.de[/url] . usually good service

I was happy to find a nice review concerning La Folie (LF) in the Artemis section because some years ago I used to go there every time I was in Berlin. I still remember so many beautyful girls: Cora, Sophie, Catty, Nathalie. Of course, they were not professionals. Most of them students, trying o make some money for hollydays or drivers licence, I don't know. It was fun to be there.. With the opening of Artemis LF declined. Customers prefered this noisy sex-factory for quiete understandable reasons: more girls, better services for the same price (only a few girls in LF kissed or offered anal and cim).. The last time I went to LF, in may 2007, it was a sad place: Two or three girls (5s at most), two or three ladies (in their forties), two or three big mammas. No more Sophie, no more Catty. Anyway: As I don't like Artemis at all I would be glad to see an LF-revival. Just some nice girls, and this should be no problem.. Meanwhile: I really can recommend Adriana (Monrouge): this girl from Russia is nice, provides a good service. Without those horrible boots she would be perfect.

[QUOTE=Severin Carl] Meanwhile: I really can recommend Adriana (Monrouge): this girl from Russia is nice, provides a good service. Without those horrible boots she would be perfect.[/QUOTE]


Had to do a double take here as I thought that you wrote, "without those horrible boobs"!!! But I have to agree with you about Adriana. She is an absolute sweet heart-and her boobs are spectacular. I only wish that her service was just a little more extensive. See my review some pages back.

Also I would love to see a La Folie come back. Last two times I went I left with out a session. Guess as the local reporter I will drop in from time to time and see if anything has improved. Will keep you posted.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Also I would love to see a La Folie come back. Last two times I went I left with out a session. Guess as the local reporter I will drop in from time to time and see if anything has improved. Will keep you posted.[/QUOTE]
I'd also love to see La Folie come back.

I am not a big fan of the large Fickfabriken and though I've not been yet, Artemis is, from all reports, one of them so its not on a "must do" list for me.

Nothing like a small, neigborhood FKK where the women are either total amateurs or semi-pros at best.

It will be a while before I return to Berlin though. The biggest problem with it: there is too much to see and to do, culture-wise and otherwise.

If you find yourself in say Wuppertal one of these days, visiting an FKK club makes total sense. Other than watching the [i]Schwebebahn[/i] roll by, there is nothing much else to do. But Berlin is something else.

Yesterday's NY Times had an article on p4p in Europe. Most of the article is about Prague but they also talked with Egbert Krumeich, manager of Artemis.

"Financial crisis tames demand for world's oldest service."

[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/09/world/europe/09czechsex.html?[/url]

Rufus

For those, who are interested in, I like to add further adresses, where you can spent pleasant 20 min for 35 euro - the charge for longer time is higher of course.

Berlin-Neukölln:

[url]www.erotische-modelle.de[/url]

[url]www.schmusemodelle.de[/url]

Berlin-Steglitz:

[url]www.bundesallee128.de[/url]

I allways use to spent only 20 minutes, I don´t like any "long-time-beeing together" ;-) with a girl, I did not get to know before.

The main area to find some streetwalkers is in vicinity to the subway station: "Kurfürstenstrasse" - not, and this is important: famous "Kurfürstendamm" with it´s big stores like KADEWE etc..

Both are stops of the subway line "U1", but street action you´ll find only at Kurfürsten s t r a s s e!

The last 2 years, it re-developped itself to a quarter covering the folowing streets:

Kurfürstenstraße,Potsdamerstraße,Bülowstraße, Frobenstraße, sometimes Genthinerstraße - look at the map:

: [url]http://www.berlin.de/stadtplan/map.asp?sid=ca1da4ea2f72cf66ceb7f68a75610b2e&start.x=5&plz=10785&str=Kurf%FCrstenstr.+36&start=Finden&grid=dedatlas10[/url]

At the moment, most of the girls are coming from former east-european countries like: Poland, Czechslovakia, Hungaria, romania and Bulgaria.

Concerning the quality of service: it depends.

You ll find some germans too, but some of them are drug addicted.

[url]http://www.fkk-artemis.de/en/[/url]

Reported in Herald Tribune to be largest brothel in Berlin. Same article referenced below by NYT owner of HT

I was sad to read that La Folie has lost its part timers, it was what made the place special and worth the trip to Berlin.

This is from a couple of weeks back. On the strength of another member's good words I visited Lucy at Liberty.

[url]http://www.libertyberlin.de/lucy.htm[/url]

I was hoping to find with Lucy large pussy lips. Unfortunately her are (IMO) just average. They are well shaped and very nice but as far as size goes nothing out of the ordinary.

Otherwise the session was above average. Lucy, I quickly realized. was familiar to me. After some thought I asked if she had ever worked at Pestilozzistr. 69, bei Celine. In fact she had (as Jenna) and I remembered a very good session from some months back. At the time she had told me that she was on her way to work at VK, an bordello that I will not visit.

It seems that she lasted a day at VK, she had some bad things to say about the other girls and especially the management, and then moved to Liberty where she has been since. She also works one day a week at KD as Jessie.

She is a very nice girl who aims to please. Her bj skills are good to very good and she enthusiastically and vocally enjoys having her pussy licked. Her body is, I would say, very nice. The only down side is her boobs which are man made-s. Her surgeon did a good job, but still they are not real. And while not hard to look at, she is not what I would call a real beauty.

I spent 40 mins. with her and added FO as an extra, the whole session costing 100 €.

Will I repeat-most certainly-but not right away.

I am still on the hunt though for a girl sporting a really large set of lips. If anyone remembers Marie who used to work at Mac in Neuköln, this is the size (or bigger) that I lust after.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]This is from a couple of weeks back. On the strength of another member's good words I visited Lucy at Liberty.
[url]http://www.libertyberlin.de/lucy.htm[/url]
[/QUOTE]
Angus could you please tell if kissing is on on her menue. Marked her as "possible" for my next visit (around X-Mas).

Many thanks!

[QUOTE=Every Walker]Angus could you please tell if kissing is on on her menue. Marked her as "possible" for my next visit (around X-Mas).

Many thanks![/QUOTE]

Sorry, I can not say. It is not listed on the web site as one of her options and myself I was not tempted to pony up the extra 20 so I did not ask. I find that I like to have a fairly good rapport with a girl before I pay extra for kissing as I like it to be more than just mechanical.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Sorry, I can not say...[/QUOTE]
Alles klar. Maybe I'll find out. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Every Walker]Alles klar. Maybe I'll find out. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Hope you do. Lucy is a very nice girl who gives good service. If you need any more recommendations @ Liberty just let me know.

AM

Thanks. What has stricken me a minute ago is that I can check it at the KDs' page. Indeed, there is a tick at "kuessen bei bes. Sympathie" ..
Let's hope I'll be the lucky one. I'll try to report in case all the sides match.

[QUOTE=Anderssons Kalle]Hi! A few years back, I visited a strip club in Charlottenburg. It was just off from the main street (Kantstrasse? ) I think. The place was called the Banana Bar or something silly. It was pretty small, and had a bar right in front when you came in through the door. To the right were a few sofas and a bit further in a couple of private areas where the girls did private dancing (lubing themselves up). I had a really good time there and a few of the gals provided "special services" in the adjacent building. Anyone know of the place and the address? We kinda walked around for a bit in the area 'til we found this place. So I'm not sure I'll find myself back, and if it's still open. Anyone got any feedback I'd be grateful.[/QUOTE]Blue Banana was at the Kaiser Friedrich Strasse, just at the corner with the Stuttgarter Platz (you are right, very close to the Kantstrasse). Unfortunately it is closed now. There are a few stripclubs right at the Stuttgarter Platz, but none of them is like Blue Banana.

[QUOTE=Kinky Gonzo]Blue Banana was at the Kaiser Friedrich Strasse, just at the corner with the Stuttgarter Platz (you are right, very close to the Kantstrasse). Unfortunately it is closed now. There are a few stripclubs right at the Stuttgarter Platz, but none of them is like Blue Banana.[/QUOTE]
This brings back memories of ducking into one of these probably a decade ago and being extremely uncomfortable as I did a similarly stupid thing once in Paris and ended up with an enormous bill.

So I sit back and anxiously watch the proceedings. After this chick finishes her set she walks around asking asking if anyone wanted any company.

"Hmm...", I thought. "Really?" Now this is the part where I expected she'd sit down with me and go into the whole bottle of champagne thing at which point I was going to stand up and walk out.

No. She was asking if I was interested in retiring to the back and getting to know each other.

I ask how much and she replies. "Hmm. Reasonable", I think. (I forget now how much - this was back in the Dmark days). So off she goes to get the keys and we wander through a back door down a little alley into a building in the back (way back). We go upstairs, she unlocks a door, locks it behind her and we go at it.

She was very fair, there was no rip off and I was quite satisfied.

I couldn't get over it because she was visually quite pleasing to the eyes and she was quite good too. No restrictions. No rip off.

I don't know if I just got lucky or if they are all like this though.

So, yes, they have stripclubs there. And yes, they have take out.

I have totally forgotten the name of the place though.

La Folie is just around the corner from this, by the way.

After I got back, while doing further research on the goings on at Stuttgarter Platz, I came across articles about stabbings at clubs there though. Some journalist was at the wrong place at the wrong time. Whew! I was in a dangerous place and didn't know it.

I have no idea if it is still the same though.

...to be true.

[url]http://www.tatom.org/documents/CNN.com-StudyNewstudyshows.htm[/url]

;-)

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]...to be true.
[url]http://www.tatom.org/documents/CNN.com-StudyNewstudyshows.htm[/url]
;-)
AM[/QUOTE]It's a nice fantasy. How I wish.

Read it carefully. It's written in a style typically found on news sites but when you read reports from medical researchers almost literally singing the praises for swallowing, (". I encourage all women out there to make fellatio an important part of their daily routine. "), well. Let's just say that even in non-medical topics the reporting would be a bit more restrained. It kind of reads like the health watch reports on blueberries.

Rufus

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]...to be true.

[url]http://www.tatom.org/documents/CNN.com-StudyNewstudyshows.htm[/url]

;-)

AM[/QUOTE]We must ALWAYS carry copies of this report (in various languages) when we go out to play! What the hell, take them anyway, its a great conversation piece!

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/valent-e.htm[/url]


After my chat with fellow ISG member DkFatBastard this past Saturday evening at Artemis, during which he gave me a good report on Valentina, I decided to make it my priority to see her at the first available opportunity. As she was in town I tried first Monday (she had left for the day when I called) and finally it all worked out on Tuesday evening.

Valentina lives out of Berlin (near Köln I understand) and seems to work here at KD for a week or so every one to two months. I have tried several time to see her but it has just never worked out before. While I don’t this for sure, I gather that she has a fairly loyal following and is often booked while she is here. But don’t let this stop you as I can assure you that Valentina is one service provider that is well worth lining up for.

Incase you have not guessed yet, I have not enough good words in my vocabulary to describe properly a session with this young lady. But I will give it a good try.

I arrived at KD shortly before 17:00 for my appointment. As always the intake was done with ease and soon I was sitting and waiting for Valentina. I did not wait long and my first impression was positive. Valentina is a quite tall (180 cm) and a very strapping, healthy looking young woman. We said our hellos, I paid the fee (160 €/1hour) and she left shortly to get a coat as we were headed upstairs to one of the upper rooms.

Once in our room I was offered a shower, which I accepted even though I had showered at home, and the usual cola or mineral water. Freshly showered I returned to the room and after another short wait Valentina entered the room.

With regard to her looks-the web pictures are quite accurate though in person I actually found her better looking. Her looks are a wee bit unusual and I find it difficult to put in to words what it is about her that I so liked. She is not really “model beautiful” though she does have the hight to be a runway model. I guess that for me her appeal is that she is slightly awkward looking, not symmetrically beautiful, but with a sort of interesting look to her. I also found her appeal to be that she just looks friendly, not like some tall blonds who have the “ice queen” look down pat. Her figure is curvy and she has a very nicely shaped ass. The only slight negative (IMO) with regard to her body is the enhancement she has had done on her breasts. Somehow they don’t quite fit her body. I can only imagine how she looked before the surgery and I imagine I would have liked her natural assets more.

But who is to know? I certainly wasn’t complaining when she stripped down, climbed on to of me and presented a hard, pink nipple for old Angus to suck and nibble upon. The sex with Valentina seemed to flow very nicely. She was happy to receive a very extensive and lengthy licking and then returned the favor with a truly top notch BJ. Fellows, this girl knows how to deep throat and seems to enjoy it when you hold her head and thrust into her mouth. A rare treat indeed. Valentina is also a talented ball licker. I find that most girls suck way too hard when (and if) they take your balls in the mouth. This girls treats them like the delicate, sensitive jewels that they are. Pure heaven.

Th main event was just as good as everything else. A couple of position changes, finishing up with her ass high in the air and little A thrusting hard like he wanted to just climb inside her.

The rest of the session was also a joy, being spent chatting and getting to know each other. Valentina is an intelligent, well spoken lady with many interests and she is not hesitant about sharing them. The hour long session extended at least 15 minutes over time and finally I found myself reminding her that we may just be over time.

Leaving KD last night I had that walking on air feeling one gets after a really, really good session. I was 100% satisfied with my session and will no doubt be repeating with this lovely young lady just as soon as she returns to Berlin sometime in January.

You should be a handsome guy, Angus : I didn't get deep throat (but I did not especially ask for ), nor kisses with Valentina !!

[QUOTE=Bobo.fr]You should be a handsome guy, Angus : I didn't get deep throat (but I did not especially ask for ), nor kisses with Valentina !![/QUOTE]

Well, no kisses for me either. But the DT sure was a nice treat.

I visited Crissy at Mon Rouge yesterday. The day before Christmas everything closes down pretty early here in Berlin. I wanted to visit with a regular (no surprises) but as I looked on the websites of my usual haunts none of the girls I knew seemed to be working. My last attempt was Adrianna at Mon Rouge but she also was not working. The fellow who answered the phone then mentioned that Crissy was working until 16:00. I had a session with Crissy some months back (early summer) and had since tried to see her a second time but she was on permanent “Urlaub”, though her pictures remained on the MR website for some time. The pics disappeared from the site mid November and I thought that maybe she had left the business for good.

So I booked an hour for the week day(book before 16:00) special price of 100 euros. Arriving just before the hour I was shown to one of the smaller rooms (seems to be luck of the draw who gets the middle “kings” room with the massive platform bed) and in short order was joined by Crissy who remembered me, that’s always a nice feeling, and seemed happy to see me, also nice.

Gents, I have to say that Crissy is drop dead gorgeous, at least IMO and I know that this matter is always a bit subjective. She has a nice slim figure, small tight bum, Smallish (34B?) breasts with nipples that when erect stay the same shape, just harder, and a beautiful face with large pouty lips. And speaking of large lips, her pussy lips are large just as I like them.

I do have to say though that the last time I saw her she had a sort of unsophisticated, almost “country bumpkin”, look to her that I found very, very appealing. She looked like a girl that you would find in a small town who really does not know how beautiful she is. In the past 6 months she seems to have changed her style and is now much more sophisticated looking-new hair color & style, a bit more make up and long manicured nails on her fingers. Still beautiful but more polished.

I paid the fee (100 + 20 for FO &10 for kissing, both of which I was to regret slightly) , had my shower and soon was joined on the bed where we chatted a bit before starting the session. Crissy is a nice girl who speaks reasonable English and more or less no German.

As for the session, it was quite good but not great. This girl has her boundaries and is quite clear where they are. She is good natured about it but still quite clear. Her breasts, as beautiful as they are, are very sensitive and she does not like anything but the gentlest of nibbling on the nipples. She will not allow ant finger insertion. Once that was all cleared up the session flowed quite nicely. She does allow licking and old Angus went to town on that beautiful pussy probably spending 20-25 minutes down there snuffling around like a pig looking for truffles. At the start she was pretty unresponsive. But by the end she was very wet and her hips were moving in a nice sensual wave like motion that meant ta she was indeed enjoying herself. In the end she did not come but I certainly enjoyed the taste and the feel of her gooey quim.

Having eaten my fill I lay back to be pleasured.Having paid for kissing I tried this first. The kisses were nice but it was painfully obvious that this was just for money. No real feeling there. I had to ask specifically for her to suck me(she was manually stimulating me, quite well, but just did not seem to take the initiative to take little A into her mouth. When I asked down she went but it was also obvious that sucking cock (at least for money) is not her strong suit. The bj involved far too much hand and her most advanced trick was the open mouth tongue flick which certainly has it’s place in a well performed bj but should not be relied upon as the main event.

I allowed this to go on for a short while and then suggested that we find a condom. The fucking went better. Most memorable: Doggy!! After bending her over on the bed Old Angus went on for another truffle forage, this time between the cheeks of her beautiful, tight bum (While she does not offer anal, I did ask, she does seem to really enjoy a deep bum licking and I have to note that her little ballon knot really seems to open up as if to welcome welcome a cock-kind of frustrating really. I would dearly love to fuck this girl in the ass...) finally sliding little A up to the hilt in her pussy and giving her a nice root. She is very responsive in this position, pushing back and really getting involved.

In the end I filled the condom and we were just about 5 minutes from the end of the hour. After a clean up, another shower and a bit of a good bye cuddle she was showing me the door.

Summing up, Crissy is most definitely worth a visit (IMO) if only for the pure optic fuck aspect of the session. And, as mentioned, she is a very nice girl and pleasant to spent the hour with. I will most likely repeat with her though perhaps I would just take her for the half hour and it is unlikely that next time I will pay for her sub par bbbj or kissing. Stick to the things she does well. And take note, She is going home again (Bulgaria) at the end of January but claims she will be back in the spring.

As always, thanks for reading.

AM

I am thinking to go there on 26 December, do you believe that I will be able to find any girl there?

[QUOTE=Fkk Man]I am thinking to go there on 26 December, do you believe that I will be able to find any girl there?[/QUOTE]

Artemis opens at 18:00 on the 26th Dec.

[url]http://www.fkk-artemis.de/en/information.php[/url]

Sure you will find a girl. But the selection may very well be limited. I guess it depends upon how picky you are and how much you want to go. Personally I would stick to the bordellos this week.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I visited Crissy at Mon Rouge yesterday.[/QUOTE]For every post im reading about Monrouge (and Kamilla Dee) it definitely is a "must visit" next time im in Berlin. Please, be it soon! =)

I have tried to find out some information about this "week day (book before 16:00) special price of 100 euros" but did not find any. Does it mean that you must do the booking for a session that day before 16:00 but the visit can be done after 16:00 or you do have to book AND do the visit before 16:00 monday-thursday? (or does friday include "week day"?). I guess its the second one, book and do the visit before 16:00, right?

Whats the pricing during (friday) saturday and sunday? and after 16:00 week days?
I cant find the pricing on the homepage [url]http://www.monrouge.de/[/url]

Kamilla Dee, Monrouge and Artemis. Thats the way to have fun in Berlin.

[QUOTE=Kid Icarus]For every post im reading about Monrouge (and Kamilla Dee) it definitely is a "must visit" next time im in Berlin. Please, be it soon! =)

I have tried to find out some information about this "week day (book before 16:00) special price of 100 euros" but did not find any. Does it mean that you must do the booking for a session that day before 16:00 but the visit can be done after 16:00 or you do have to book AND do the visit before 16:00 monday-thursday? (or does friday include "week day"?). I guess its the second one, book and do the visit before 16:00, right?

Whats the pricing during (friday) saturday and sunday? and after 16:00 week days?
I cant find the pricing on the homepage [url]http://www.monrouge.de/[/url]

Kamilla Dee, Monrouge and Artemis. Thats the way to have fun in Berlin.[/QUOTE]


Hi,

They do not advertise this special anywhere as far as I know. I found out about it one day when I phoned and made an hour long appointment for 3:30 p.m.. The phone lady then told me that it would cost just 100-I was expecting 130. Pleasant surprise.

As far as I know the special is good for any week day (incl. Friday as far as I know) but does not include holidays-if they are open and usually they are not open Sunday & holidays. But you can usually phone and make a "Termin", minimum of 1 hour at the usual rate on Sunday & holidays.

And also as far as I know (I have never asked but it seems obvious to me) the special means that the appointment must start before 16:00. Not sure how close they would cut that and I would not press the issue personally. I always find that it does no good to appear too much like a bargain hunter when visiting a bordello. Better to project (even if it not entirely true) the image of a well to do guy who also happens to like the occasional bargain.

The only down side to this special is that some of the girls I would like to see seem to just work the evening. Specifically, I would dearly love to bone Nicky for a full hour for the bargain price of 100 euros. But as far as I know she only works evenings. Guess I'll have to shell out the extra 30 euros one of these days...

Normal pricing, 1 hr.=130, 1/2 hr.=70.Kissing=10, bbbj=20 bbbjcim=30 (if offered) and I think anal (not many of the girls offer it)=50.

I find that the girls at MR are pretty good with the time and always give you the full time, though don't dawdle in the shower because it seems that it is usually on the clock.

This is in contrast to KD where the hour seems to start after you finish your shower. But at 160 I guess it should. I have never asked about this info (again, not wanting to appear like a time grinder) but from observation and experience it seems to be true. At KD I find that the girls can be very, very generous with the time on hour sessions if you "click" with the girl. I have had as much as 20 mins. overtime on occasion, spent chatting with the girl and I have never experienced a door knock at KD.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]As far as I know the special is good for any week day (incl. Friday as far as I know) but does not include holidays-if they are open and usually they are not open Sunday & holidays. But you can usually phone and make a "Termin", minimum of 1 hour at the usual rate on Sunday & holidays.[/QUOTE]Thanks for all the info. I will have this in my mind to the next visit. I was supposed to go in nov or dec but had to stay home and work.

I guess late jan or feb i can go. Damn, i really looking forward to this trip.

[url]http://libertyberlin.de/mona.htm[/url]

A small note really. Just to tell that she is a very nice and attentive woman which will do everything to please you and make you feel and comfortable.

I've reached Liberty on the 2nd X-Mas day [shortly after 4 pm] and had a luck to choose her for a fourty minutes session. She would play a "Maedchen-Maedchen" role, which, even though somewhat overdone, was still quite nice for a first-time encounter. And indeed Mona is a very tender and erotic woman which you will see expressed in a shy girly way. While not a GFE, for which I did not look at that particular visit [despite on all other occasions I nearly always do], this was as pleasant non-GFE session as I could wish myself at that moment. As extras opted for kisses only. All her kisses are real. In addition she would oil massage you and let you do the same to her, both of which were again very very pleasant.

Pictures on the web page give quite accurate description of her body, without saying, however that her skin is as soft as silk and her attitude is marvellous. As for me, she has a pretty face, but this is somehting quite individual anyway. Mona is a relatively small [about 160cm; maybe slightly taller] woman. I'm not ready to agree with the age quoted on the web page but I would never give her more than 35.

Would I repeat? Most likely yes, but it depends because it seems that by now I have quite strong anchors on the GFE side in Berlin, so I'm not sure how will I feel about returning to her. But I think this will happen at least one more time. Would I recommend her? - Absolutely.

P.S.: By the way, was overwhelmed by the nuber of girls in the lineup at that day and time. I did not count, but there were about ten women, out of who all three that I have put on my short list were present. A minute after the introduction was over the door opens, and I think it's the Madam, - No! Another girl! : )

I have been to the small "Kinos" around Kant Strasse close to Stuttgarter Platz. I could not find one really nice and sexy girl. Only mother material.
Someone with other and positive experience?

I tried to take a look innside the clubs in Stuttgarter Platz but I had to pay entrence before I could look innside, Then it rings a bell in my head and I smell ripoff. Is there anyone who knows if maby one or two of the clubs in Stuttgarter Platz is good?
They must survive from something?

I was driving the Oranienburg strasse tonight. It was lots of very beautifull street girls. I dont ounderstand why they can servive in this street work if they dont give any good service. Someone with up to date experience? I would love to fuck some of the yong sexy girls - but will not take the chanse cause I heard it was all ripoff. Someone with good experience?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Dick1]I have been to the small "Kinos" around Kant Strasse close to Stuttgarter Platz. I could not find one really nice and sexy girl. Only mother material.
Someone with other and positive experience?

I tried to take a look innside the clubs in Stuttgarter Platz but I had to pay entrence before I could look innside, Then it rings a bell in my head and I smell ripoff. Is there anyone who knows if maby one or two of the clubs in Stuttgarter Platz is good?
They must survive from something?

I was driving the Oranienburg strasse tonight. It was lots of very beautifull street girls. I dont ounderstand why they can servive in this street work if they dont give any good service. Someone with up to date experience? I would love to fuck some of the yong sexy girls - but will not take the chanse cause I heard it was all ripoff. Someone with good experience?

Thanks![/QUOTE]

The women who inhabit the kino world are generally not top tier girls. At best you might hope for a 5-6 who gives good service. And the area you mention is not the best. If you want a good kino experience you have to do some research (my Berlin Guide in the RoD has a kino section) and head to a kino else where in Berlin. But IMO, unless the sleaze factor appeals to you, money can be better spent at one of Berlin's nicer bordellos.

As for the street scene-of course you may find a gem out there. But remember that these girls do not offer value for money. You will pay an initial fee (80€?) and then for everything you want to do there will be an additional charge. Before you know it you are paying 180+ for a half hour of not very good sex.

For this money you can have a very comfortable session at KD with a real beauty. But then perhaps you are not after comfort but sleaze. In this case I say go for it and let us know what happens.

At the corner of Kantstrasse and probably Leibnitzstrasse there is a DVD shop PRIVATE.

From outside, I saw on the first floor an appointment with red lignt "Melanie (if I remember well) Massage" : did anybody try ?

[QUOTE=Bobo.fr]At the corner of Kantstrasse and probably Leibnitzstrasse there is a DVD shop PRIVATE.

From outside, I saw on the first floor an appointment with red lignt "Melanie (if I remember well) Massage" : did anybody try ?[/QUOTE]


Sorry, I can not help. But I have to say that a massage parlor connected with a PRIVATE DVD shop sounds just a we but dodgy to me.

Ever tried this place?

[url]http://www.harmoniemassagen.de/[/url]

I have yet to go. It is a bit out if the way but there are IMO some cracking looking girls there. And I have read good reports on the German forums.
No full service or even a bj here but the prices seem good and apparently the massage is also decent and includes hand release.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Sorry, I can not help. But I have to say that a massage parlor connected with a PRIVATE DVD shop sounds just a we but dodgy to me.

Ever tried this place?

[url]http://www.harmoniemassagen.de/[/url]

I have yet to go. It is a bit out if the way but there are IMO some cracking looking girls there. And I have read good reports on the German forums.
No full service or even a bj here but the prices seem good and apparently the massage is also decent and includes hand release.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the adress but if we are sure that we are not allowed to make love why don't we try Klio (from Kamilla-Dee) again or may be her friend Luna ?

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/luna.htm[/url]

Happy new jear!

I am wondering. I had some very good time with sweety (after a wonderfull recomendation her at ISG). But now I see that she is not longer with her old escort agency (la-passion-escort). In the freiclub is a met profile of her, now her name is Yve.

I am wondering if someone had contact with her, and can give me some hint.

I am in Berlin next week and I am looking for a goor recomendation for an escort. I like if she comes to the hotel.

I looked again at arian and celine (from la passion) or one girl from *intim (valerie or cindy), but I can't decide.

I lok for A service and a little dominance and roleplay or a visit to a cinema.

Maybe someone can help

So all the best to all of you,

Will

There are some good reports here, but they basically just rehash the same places over and over again and seem to emphasize the cheap over the extravagant.

I had a few pennies to spare, so I went on a hunt for the hidden treasure. I didn't find it, but I did find the highest prices and the low class!

Villa Roscana.- Münstersche Str. 11, Berlin. Wilmersdorf,

When new to any town, without any sure place to go, I always like to ask a taxi driver for their ideas on places while we're on the way to the place I ask for. Since there's a 50/50 chance they'll take you to a place where they get some kickback, you have to be careful doing this, but if you get somebody honest, you can find some great finds. That's how I found Villa Roscana. The taxi driver described it as a house full of girls. In fact it was more like some sort of Roaring 20s style brothel, which of course I've never seen, but I imagine that this place has been there since then. You walk into a big elegant mansion, and to the right and to the left of the entry hall there are bars. The night I went, a Thursday, only one bar was going and there were about 7girls/women in there, not counting any who were already upstairs. You have to pay 30EUR entry and that gets you one drink. Of the ones I saw initially, I would say most of the women were between 35. 45 and not thin. Since this was supposedly some exclusive place, I guess Germans (being ever so logical) think this is the place to go to get women with knowledge. I sat down on one of the plush sofas and looked around. I was the only client for the moment, so 2. 40 somethings and one 20 something who looked Latin started chatting me up in German, Spanish and Czech. Finally the waitress came over and asked what I was looking for. I said younger and more attractive. I have to hand it to them, they delivered. She sent over a 30 year old from? And another 1m80 German with short black hair who must have been 20, who had been outside smoking. I decided to chat a bit with the 20yo. She was nice, could speak English, and was a little bit shy, but after the agressive banter of the previous 3 I just wasn't in the mood. Maybe that was because the price was 30min for 180EUR or maybe it was just that I was tired. But I wasn't up for anything and left. A few weeks later I ran into one of the 40yo Czech/Polish women in a bar, with another very hot 40yo who she told me worked with her and once I broke thru the bulletproof shield, she held up her end of the conversation no problem for an hour. So I'm still curious about the Villa Roscana. I think I'll go check it out again. Sometime. This place is not far from Adenauerplatz and Kufustendamm. So if you go there and don't like it, it's only a quick taxi ride to Liberty or ArtemisFKK. When I was leaving 4-5 guys in business suits were coming in so I think that maybe this is the kind of place where guys can go drink together after work in exclusive surroundings without annoyance then take the kind of girl they want whenever they're ready. Strangely enough, it works. If you're ready to pay.

The other place I tried that I had read about here, but nobody had any information on was the Cafe Pssst, Brandenburgische Str. 73, Berlin. Wilmersdorf.

Another taxi driver had told me that this was like a bar where you could find a girl to take with you for a price, but I didn't believe him. Then when I saw it being discussed in this forum I thought maybe it was the same place. To make a long story short, it was absolutely horrible. First of all it was a Monday night, I got there about 12 midnight and just about every seat was full. I finally found a place at a table in the corner next to the door and then looked around. The waitress was very hot. She was German, looked Russian, late 20s and she was about 9/10 with a hot body. Unfortunately, the other women in the place were more like 4-5/10 with one or two 6 or 7s. They were all with guys already. The thought crossed my mind that this was where all the taxi drivers came. There was on extremely annoying girl at the bar, dumb as a doorknob, and happy as a pig in zen, who kept putting two fingers in her mouth and letting out a shrill whistle that cut through everything else in the bar. She thought that was the funniest thing in the world. I downed my 8EUR whiskey and left.

I'm back in Berlin for awhile now. IT seems like it's not too difficult to meet girls in bars for fun here. Are there any places where good looking girls go to meet guys (not kit-kat club :-) -- maybe in Berlin it is everywhere?

[QUOTE=Bobo.fr]Thanks for the adress but if we are sure that we are not allowed to make love why don't we try Klio (from Kamilla-Dee) again or may be her friend Luna ?

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/luna.htm[/url][/QUOTE]

Have you tried Luna? I am quite curios about her.

[QUOTE=Hektor T]I'm back in Berlin for awhile now. IT seems like it's not too difficult to meet girls in bars for fun here. Are there any places where good looking girls go to meet guys (not kit-kat club :-) -- maybe in Berlin it is everywhere?[/QUOTE]
Now we have a clear description on what transpires at Cafe Pssst! and that Villa Roscana report is priceless.

I have a post under this thread somewhere about places to go and meet women in Berlin. I did a quick search and its just not jumping out at me otherwise I'd have created a link.

Here it is: (posted after the above text)

[post]783851[/post]

[QUOTE=Will Smith69]Happy new jear!

I am wondering. I had some very good time with sweety (after a wonderfull recomendation her at ISG). But now I see that she is not longer with her old escort agency (la-passion-escort). In the freiclub is a met profile of her, now her name is Yve.

I am wondering if someone had contact with her, and can give me some hint.

I am in Berlin next week and I am looking for a goor recomendation for an escort. I like if she comes to the hotel.

I looked again at arian and celine (from la passion) or one girl from *intim (valerie or cindy), but I can't decide.

I lok for A service and a little dominance and roleplay or a visit to a cinema.

Maybe someone can help

So all the best to all of you,

Will[/QUOTE]

Have you a link for Sweety? I very much enjoyed her and would love a repeat performance sometime.

Also, any experience with Minnie at la passion? She looks to me to be hot but for the blurring on her pics. Any info would be most welcomed.

Yes, thanks for the report Hektor. It is always good to read about undiscovered country. The price for the Villa seems a little high but for those with the cash it could be a good find.

There is also Bel Ami.

[url]http://www.bellamour.de/nightclub/nightclub.htm[/url]

Supposedly very nice but very expensive. I have heard that Sting has been there and I believe this is where Ben Affleck went when in Berlin and was photographed, thus ending his romance with J Lo.

It is even more expensive that the Villa I hear. Not much info on the site. If you have to ask, you probably can't afford it as they say.

I remember one club I visit last time I was I Berlin. Ok, it was almost one and a half year ago but I guess it was not new then, and still there. Next time I'll go I will look it up if its' still there, just so I know the name.

Its near Zoologischer Garten. I was staying at Hotel Agon 10 meters from the big Kurfürstendamm road. I walked up on the big street against Zoologischer Garten and found it on a cross road. I think there was a 2 store IT-café near this place. Anyway, 30€ to get in and 2 drinks for free. It was a stripclub with rooms if anyone wanted. On my scale, there was some 5-6 at the best. Average maybe 4. I remember one really annoying asian 35-40 y. O. She made me leave after the 2 drinks/beer. The doorman shouted bad things when I left. I think because I did not go in to a room with someone. That was prostitution in a really bad way. The girls did not look to have fun, and the doorman behaved strange.

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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Have you tried Luna? I am quite curios about her.[/QUOTE]No, I've not been in Berlin since November and Luna began to work recently.

I will see if I can go to Berlin in some months!

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Have you a link for Sweety? I very much enjoyed her and would love a repeat performance sometime.

Also, any experience with Minnie at la passion? She looks to me to be hot but for the blurring on her pics. Any info would be most welcomed.[/QUOTE]Hi,

I don't have a direct link to (now) yve, she has a selvportrait in the german forum www freiclub dot germany. I tryed to get her on the phone but did not work. I will try again.

Will

[QUOTE=Will Smith69]Hi,

I don't have a direct link to (now) yve, she has a selvportrait in the german forum www freiclub dot germany. I tryed to get her on the phone but did not work. I will try again.

Will[/QUOTE]Hi,

Today I talked to here. She is not working any longer. So no good news!

Will

I was in Berlin for 2 months and with reports from ISG to guide me, did some mongering around. Was thinking about posting my report for a while, and then Angus' question about Minnie at La Passion triggered my report (more about that later)

I first went to Hase, simply because my hotel was near it. On the first visit I tried Verona [url]http://www.berliner-laufhaus.de/html/verona.html[/url]

She is big, really big... the service was so so, but what I did not like was her talkativeness... very distracted and also touchy about touching and all. Also a clock watcher and tried to hardsell extras.

On my next visit a few days later, I went with Shirley [url]http://www.berliner-laufhaus.de/html/shirley.html[/url]... she told me that she is the only one who does CIM, which she did. Not great to look at (5-6) but the experience was quite good, though I might add, a bit on sleazy side.

On my last visit I visited Vanessa, who is no longer there, but the experience was excellent. Great CBJ, multiple positions, great chit chat, speaks fluent english and no clock watching or hard selling. Also tall (1.8), super figure, though a lot of tattoos which I didnt like. I later found out that she is now with ([url]www.hauptstadtpuff.de[/url]) but though I tried a few times, she was never available.. I guess she has disappeared and any info on her would help.

I stopped at Hase after that, though I notice that their lineup has considerably improved.

I then tried La Passion but Sweety was not available (though I hope someone can find her) and Celine was flatly refused as I was not German. I then settled with Minnie, and here I must dissappoint Angus. She has put on atleast 10 kilos since her photos and her face doesnt resemble the photo (though blurred) by any strtech. She herself addmitted the same a bit apologetically and tried hard to make up for it (she did), but I was already a put off. Though she was game for anything, she insisted on lots of extra charges. I did not take any of the extras. The session was OK.

Next week I tried Julia, again with dissapointing results. She too has lots of extra weight and the face has also changed a lot. Very bad figure. But the BJ was long and excellent, though the rest of the session was so so. She also did a second pop at no extra charge.

Next day I tried Mercedes, and though she was OK (7), it was a very mechanical service. Also no multiple positions though she offered a 2nd pop for at no extra charge.

Finally I tried Eve, who I was told was more expensive than the others as she is a model and all that. She is no doubt classy and highly educated with fluent english and a great figure though the chest was a on the flat side. The experience was good, she knew her stuff, though she is a clock watcher. Also she has a bit of an attitude problem, is a bit condescending, perhaps from being a model.

In between I tried Mona at kant and looked for Denise as I had seen good reports. I found it a very sleazy place though I stayed and tried Gabi.. big dissappointment. I would give her 4, though she tried hard. Also after having a look at the lineup, I think all the pics on the site are heavily photoshopped.
Still persistent I tried Laura who is a bit on the heavier side, and luckily had a great experience, multiple sessions, many positions, open for most things (though no kissing) and no clock watching. Also she speaks fluent english.

She told me that that was her last day there and she now works at Annett. I will probably go there on my next visit, as I felt I got value for money and had a great time.

I didnt get time to visit KD, or Salon, etc and will do that the next time. In the meanwhile I will continue to enjoy reports, especially if I get an update on Sweety or Vanessa

Thats all from me.

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[QUOTE=Dead Poet]

I didnt get time to visit KD, or Salon, etc and will do that the next time. In the meanwhile I will continue to enjoy reports, especially if I get an update on Sweety or Vanessa

Thats all from me.

[/QUOTE]

Many thanks for the report Dead Poet. Lots of info packed in there and for me a very useful report as I have been circling Minnie for a couple of months now and your report has perhaps saved me a disappointing session.
I do find her pics appealing but if she had packed on 10 kilos and the face is not great to look at....

Sweety (no longer working, see below) was indeed a treat. Not a great looker but rarely have I encountered such enthusiasm for being a dirty, dirty girl.

Sounds like La Passion needs some new talent. Myself, of the three or so visits I have had from them they were all top notch and none of the girls are there any more.

On your next visit I really do recommend that you give KD or Liberty a try. A bit more expensive but I rarely (never for KD) have had a truely bad session at these places.

Regards.

AM

[QUOTE=Will Smith69]Hi,

Today I talked to here. She is not working any longer. So no good news!

Will[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the intel. Too bad but good for her. I hope some lucky guy has found himself an exclusive with her wonderfully fuck-able ass.

[QUOTE=Dead Poet]
On my last visit I visited Vanessa, who is no longer there, but the experience was excellent. Great CBJ, multiple positions, great chit chat, speaks fluent english and no clock watching or hard selling. Also tall (1.8), super figure, though a lot of tattoos which I didnt like. I later found out that she is now with ([url]www.hauptstadtpuff.de[/url]) but though I tried a few times, she was never available.. I guess she has disappeared and any info on her would help.

[/QUOTE]

Hi,

It took me a while to make the connection but I have heard a lot about Vanessa on the German forums I visit from time to time. She has a very good rep.

The bad news is that she is rather difficult to see (moves around a lot) and having tried myself, I finally just gave up.

She has been on the Hauptstadt site for many months but never seems to be there. Even on weekends. Maybe you have to book her there?

I have found though that this is an unpleasant, unhelpful bordello and even though some of the girls on the site look good, when ever I have stopped by (a few times as it is close to where I live) the girls have always been sub par. I suspect that this bordello practices the in-call equivalent of bait & switch, i.e. the better looking girls on the site are never there and they just hope that you will stay for what is available.

If you do have any luck let me know as I would still like to give her a go.

You might also check pinup girls, across the way from freudenhaus.

[url]http://www.heisse-pinupgirls.de/UntitledFrameset-1.html[/url]

Vanessa used to work there when it was called Lulus. Some of the same girls do show up from time to time there, though they never seem to stay long. I suspect that there is some problem with the management. I stopped by once but did not stay and got a bad feeling from the place.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Hi,

The bad news is that she is rather difficult to see (moves around a lot) and having tried myself, I finally just gave up.

She has been on the Hauptstadt site for many months but never seems to be there. Even on weekends. Maybe you have to book her there? [/quote]Hi Angus,

Vanessa is auch not available on the weekends too. I have tried. The only possibel way is to get it through one of the Hase ladies, who all knew her well and had her contact (in one of my later visits there when I asked about her, a couple of the girls there Shirley specially, said that they will get in touch with her and have the details for me the next time. I never found time to go there again)

Ona separate note, I also wanted to mention about my friend who had a visit from Timja from [url]www.haushotelbesuche. De[/url]. Very bad expereince in all respects.

In any case do keep us informed about the escort scene as I am particularly interested in that experience.

DP

[QUOTE=Dead Poet]

Ona separate note, I also wanted to mention about my friend who had a visit from Timja from [url]www.haushotelbesuche. De[/url]. Very bad expereince in all respects.

In any case do keep us informed about the escort scene as I am particularly interested in that experience.

DP[/QUOTE]


I have never heard a good word about this agency and would aviod it in all but my weakest of moments...

I will keep you informed as I can but to be truthful I am not much more than the occasional customer of escorts. Especially here in Berlin where the strengths of the city lie else where. Your own experiences as posted in your report seem to reinforce to me that Berlin is really not a city for escorts. As I read your report you did not find great success/satisfaction from a few visits. For me that money is better spent else where-KD, Liberty, Artemis etc.

But I do have the occasional hankering for home field advantage and it is true that if the girl is good one does get good value for money with a home call. It is just that finding that girl can be a task.

I will pass on any info I have to be sure as I really do appreciate your effort & reports.

TY,AM

Hey all,

I'll be in Berlin in February and March and am planning to see some of the action. The two aforementioned brothels are the ones on my short-list. My only concern is if anyone knows, offhand, if any of the girls speak English at the two mentioned? Or, if it's a problem at all?

Feel free to recommend a girl (or two) if anyone has had an experience at either.

Hi Dead Poet

As Angus writes the escort scene in Berlin are not the best. I can however recommend Kamilla Dee's escort. My first 2 experiences in Berlin were with escorts from KD and they were fine. They are not cheap though. I paid 350€ for 2 hours. Both girls I tried are not there anymore though.

But now I will rather spend 350€ in Artemis :-). Just beware that it's quite addictive. I've visited around 30-40 times and spend a lot of money :-).

[QUOTE=Dead Poet]Hi Angus,

In any case do keep us informed about the escort scene as I am particularly interested in that experience.

DP[/QUOTE]

if you really have a thing for the escort experience you might consider a trip to Montreal, Canada. The combination of reasonably lax outcall laws & a good supply of open minded French Canadian girls make it perhaps one of the top escort (specifically outcall) destinations in the world.

And yes, as DKFatBastard points out KD does do take out, at a price.

[url]http://www.escort-penthouse-berlin.de/html-english/ladies01.htm[/url]

Penthouse Escort is another service that I have no direct experience with but is a service I have heard is reputable. I know one of the KD girls is signed on with this service and she has good things to say about the agency. Like KD take out though it is not in the 100€/hour range.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]if you really have a thing for the escort experience you might consider a trip to Montreal, Canada. The combination of reasonably lax outcall laws & a good supply of open minded French Canadian girls make it perhaps one of the top escort (specifically outcall) destinations in the world.[/QUOTE]
Funny you should mention this, Angus, but Montreal is my other hunting ground.

Because it is outcall oriented (there are incall places too but the quality is much worse than outcall), you will have to be in a decent hotel for your tryst.

I speak French too but just not Quebecois. When one is used to Parisian accents, it can take some getting used to. It also has a vocabulary all its own.

My biggest issue with outcall is that one can't pre-screen who you are going to see. You can examine their website pages all you want, you can take meticulous notes on other guys posts, you can grill the person on the other end of the line to get an exact description of the girl.

When she shows up at your door, you are typically in for a surprise.

This is why visiting a German FKK has a lot going for it. She's nude and there is no clothing to hide any flaws. You can sit and talk to her to assess chemistry before committing. My success ratio is so much better.

[QUOTE=Jackyo]

My biggest issue with outcall is that one can't pre-screen who you are going to see. You can examine their website pages all you want, you can take meticulous notes on other guys posts, you can grill the person on the other end of the line to get an exact description of the girl.

When she shows up at your door, you are typically in for a surprise.

This is why visiting a German FKK has a lot going for it. She's nude and there is no clothing to hide any flaws. You can sit and talk to her to assess chemistry before committing. My success ratio is so much better.[/QUOTE]

This is why, if you are into escorts, it is vital that you find a reputable agency that you trust. One that wants your repeat business. They do exist but are rare. Think about the investment it takes to set up a small escort operation compared to something like, say, an FKK. One is much more likely to be invested in pleasing their customer base. And it ain't the guy with a couple of girls, a car, a GPS and a cell phone...

I think that for me the escort thing is (was?) sort of exciting. Having the girl in a familiar setting etc.. And here in Berlin it can be less expensive than a typical hour long bordello session if it is an all inclusive session. But for me the FKK has the excitement of "the hunt" in a comfortable and reasonably luxurious setting. I have to say that since my 1st. trip this past fall I am moving more and more into just wanting to go to the FKK. Even the bordellos, except perhaps for a previously experienced fav girl, has lost it's appeal.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]This is why, if you are into escorts, it is vital that you find a reputable agency that you trust. One that wants your repeat business. They do exist but are rare. Think about the investment it takes to set up a small escort operation compared to something like, say, an FKK. One is much more likely to be invested in pleasing their customer base. And it ain't the guy with a couple of girls, a car, a GPS and a cell phone...

I think that for me the escort thing is (was?) sort of exciting. Having the girl in a familiar setting etc.. And here in Berlin it can be less expensive than a typical hour long bordello session if it is an all inclusive session. But for me the FKK has the excitement of "the hunt" in a comfortable and reasonably luxurious setting. I have to say that since my 1st. trip this past fall I am moving more and more into just wanting to go to the FKK. Even the bordellos, except perhaps for a previously experienced fav girl, has lost it's appeal.[/QUOTE]
Artemis has spoiled you! And we were responsible! ;)

[QUOTE=Jackyo]Artemis has spoiled you! And we were responsible! ;)[/QUOTE]


But what a way to be spoiled. I owe you all many thanks and hope that we can indeed meet up there some day.

I recommend Liberty (most girls speak English, even if the Madam does not. Try Lucy if you get a chance. One of my favs.

[QUOTE=Deedee123]Hey all,

I'll be in Berlin in February and March and am planning to see some of the action. The two aforementioned brothels are the ones on my short-list. My only concern is if anyone knows, offhand, if any of the girls speak English at the two mentioned? Or, if it's a problem at all?

Feel free to recommend a girl (or two) if anyone has had an experience at either.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Deedee123]Hey all,

I'll be in Berlin in February and March and am planning to see some of the action. The two aforementioned brothels are the ones on my short-list. My only concern is if anyone knows, offhand, if any of the girls speak English at the two mentioned? Or, if it's a problem at all?

Feel free to recommend a girl (or two) if anyone has had an experience at either.[/QUOTE]


Hi,

Both of these are excellent brothels. Of the two I think that you will find more English spoken by the girls Mon Rouge. It is also the more expensive of the two. Have a look at some of my posts in this forum for some specifics. I have reviews of Nicky, Adrianne & Crissy. Though I believe Crissy will be gone by then on Vacation as she told me last time I saw her. If you look on the web site it mentions the languages spoken by each girl.

Liberty I find that the girls often claim not to speak English but when they have to they can usually communicate as needed. This is common to many Germans in fact. They did learn some English in school but are reluctant (shy?) to use it. If they have to they will manage and it should not be a problem. I find if one makes a bit of an effort to speak German, even if it not very good, it helps to smooth the way. Maybe just learn the numbers or something for pricing. And bring along a pencil and paper for clarity sake.

You will find several reviews by me and others in this thread. Have a look. You might also look at the Berlin Bordello/Club guide I complied last summer. I think most of the info is still current.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=776339&postcount=48[/url]

If English is a real concern you might consider Kamila Dee as a destination. Many of the KD girls speak English and again it says on the website who speaks what. But it is a higher priced bordello and you will get no uncovered services, i.e. bbbj, there.

Have fun and don't forget to report on your activities for the info you receive here.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]But what a way to be spoiled. I owe you all many thanks and hope that we can indeed meet up there some day.[/QUOTE]
I am overdue for a visit to Berlin but the problem is that there is so much to see and do there that is not sex related, it will be hard to find the time to indulge in the non-wholesome aspects of the [i]Bundeshauptstadt[/i].

From reading the reports about Artemis, I am a bit wary of that place. It would seem from a distance to be too transactional for my taste. [i]Mal sehen[/i].

[QUOTE=Jackyo]I am overdue for a visit to Berlin but the problem is that there is so much to see and do there that is not sex related, it will be hard to find the time to indulge in the non-wholesome aspects of the [i]Bundeshauptstadt[/i].

From reading the reports about Artemis, I am a bit wary of that place. It would seem from a distance to be too transactional for my taste. [i]Mal sehen[/i].[/QUOTE]


Well having read many of your posts I suspect that you are right about Artemis not being to your taste. But if you do come to Berlin drop me a line and we can always just meet for a drink or a coffee somewhere and swap stories.

[QUOTE=Jackyo]Now we have a clear description on what transpires at Cafe Pssst! and that Villa Roscana report is priceless.

I have a post under this thread somewhere about places to go and meet women in Berlin. I did a quick search and its just not jumping out at me otherwise I'd have created a link.

Here it is: (posted after the above text)

[post]783851[/post][/QUOTE]The Cafe Psst website gives a bit more info. I think it was 80EUR for 30min and supposedly the girls take you out the front door and then up some stairs in the back to some apartments in the same building. Maybe when I got there the good girls were all gone. I won't be going back, but I imagine they cant all be 5s.

Thanks for the link to the bars. I was pretty much looking for normal bars where it is easy to pick up non working girls. But I've been to the Newton Bar. It depends on the night, but in the three times or so i was there it was mostly 2:1 men (age 40s - 50s probably businessmen staying in the nearby hotels) with a few couples and 2 or 3 sets of women around 30. Once or twice I saw some really beautiful girls there, but always already with guys. However, a taxi driver told me that if you want to get the working girls there you have to arrive around 9PM.

I can add a bit to the list. A friend told me that the First Bar (near kufurstendam almost directly across from discos Q-dorf and Maxxim) is full of normal beautiful girls who want to get paid. I went twice and, well, there are strange vibes in there...but the part about the working girls is true. It's only open Friday and Saturday I think, but you can always spot 5 or so really hot girls that are alone or with a few other unaccompanied girls. The giveaway is that most of the women clients who come unaccompanied are over 30 and there 9s and 10s are in their 20s. I think they are looking for well dressed gentlemen who don't look like they will easily pick up. The one i talked to I would give 9/10 and she wanted 750€ for a night, or rather the rest of the night until morning, but it was already 4AM, so I thought it was insane. I saw another who was a perfect 10 and appeared to be alone. For her I might have paid that, but by the time I knew how it worked she was gone. The door to this place might be a bit tough as their are three bouncers. The time to go is about 1 or 2AM because it is empty before that.

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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Yes, thanks for the report Hektor. It is always good to read about undiscovered country. The price for the Villa seems a little high but for those with the cash it could be a good find.

There is also Bel Ami.

[url]http://www.bellamour.de/nightclub/nightclub.htm[/url]

Supposedly very nice but very expensive. I have heard that Sting has been there and I believe this is where Ben Affleck went when in Berlin and was photographed, thus ending his romance with J Lo.

It is even more expensive that the Villa I hear. Not much info on the site. If you have to ask, you probably can't afford it as they say.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that tip! I found that place on the web when I first came to Berlin, but totally forgot about it. I'll have to check it out. I prefer the places where you can get a beauty without waiting in line and who hasn't already got done 5 times that day before you get her. So if I have to pay twice as much but get a better experience and so only go half as often, I consider myself better off.

I called them and they said escort is 200EUR for one hours, all night is 750EUr, but they wouldn't give me the in club prices. Just said there were about 20 girls in there. They must do good business!

[QUOTE=Jackyo]From reading the reports about Artemis, I am a bit wary of that place. It would seem from a distance to be too transactional for my taste. [i]Mal sehen[/i].[/QUOTE]It's definitely worth a look. I'm not into the 100% brothel scene and I enjoy a nighclub style, more exclusive atmosphere, but Artemis is worthwhile for sure. IT's what you make of it. I've never been on a weekend, so I guess that might be more purely action, but Wednesday or thursday night is a good balance, you can talk to girls, get an impression and choose one. And mostly they aren't going in and out of the rooms continuously. But once I was there during a trade fair and it was sad. Many, many more men than girls and most looking like they hadn't been away from the wife for half of a lifetime. I was thinking it was easier to pick up a good looking girl in a bar and get sex than in Artemis on that night.

[quote=angus magee]even the bordellos, except perhaps for a previously experienced fav girl, has lost it's appeal. [/quote]have you ever thought any deeper about this hobby and the outcome of all this. as i understand, you have more and more moved to the fkk scene. what is the next stop in your path? =)

if i speek for my self, in sweden you are raised to the view of prostitution as something awful and no no. first time i was in contact with sexworkers were in amsterdams rld. i was shocked about how beautiful the girls were, even it was quite dark and the lights were calm, the most of them were more beautiful than i could imagine. i then understood it must be an outcome from the competition and legalizing. anyway, i didn't do anything then but next trip to germany berlin i jumped on the train.

and i'm hooked,

and i'm hanging around here,

and i'm reeding all the posts about berlin and som other places even if i don't know exactly when the next time i can go.

whats wrong with me? i know i have often looked for thrills in my life, but i just woundering if this is temporary, or if it is like in the song hotel califorina.

i guess, i'm just philosophizing a little, a night like this. hard to explaind everything in a foreign language too.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Well having read many of your posts I suspect that you are right about Artemis not being to your taste. But if you do come to Berlin drop me a line and we can always just meet for a drink or a coffee somewhere and swap stories.[/QUOTE]Maybe, you can do something more than only drink a coffee, and all for free too :-O

[QUOTE=Hektor T]Thanks for that tip! I found that place on the web when I first came to Berlin, but totally forgot about it. I'll have to check it out. I prefer the places where you can get a beauty without waiting in line and who hasn't already got done 5 times that day before you get her. So if I have to pay twice as much but get a better experience and so only go half as often, I consider myself better off.

I called them and they said escort is 200EUR for one hours, all night is 750EUr, but they wouldn't give me the in club prices. Just said there were about 20 girls in there. They must do good business![/QUOTE]


Please,please, please if you do visit write a report. It is way out of my league at the moment and I would dearly love to live vicariously through you report on such a bordello.

Thanks for all the input to the thread.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Penthouse Escort is another service that I have no direct experience with but is a service I have heard is reputable. I know one of the KD girls is signed on with this service and she has good things to say about the agency. Like KD take out though it is not in the 100€/hour range.[/QUOTE]Hi Fellows,

On the topic of my preference of escorts (inspite of Angus pointing out that my experience hasn’t been that great), I still prefer to stick to it. Firstly the whole effort of dressing up, travelling on public transport (in this cold), undressing, dressing up again and coming back home (in this cold! ) and changing back just puts me off. .

Plus as Angus mentioned, there is a thrill in experiencing it in your own environment.

Further, even if you get to check out a girl in a bordello beforehand, you still won’t know for sure how the service will be. And I am a bit shy of being too demanding in a bordello kind of environment. Add to that my fear of meeting someone I know professionally.

Thus I rest my case.

So please keep me informed of some good escort experiences that you have heard at a fair price. And reports are guaranteed.

Hey, Angus,

My second last post in this thread was just a little night philosophizing, and the last one were just for fun.

In any case, you know.

I'm very familiar with your post last summer. It's been wonderfully helpful! Thanks so much for compiling it.

The English won't be too much of a big deal (I'll be coming in from North America), and I'm sure I'll manage with those trusty 'learn to speak german' cds! If anyone English-speaking should want to grab a beer while i'm in town, I'd gladly pick up the tab in return for some helpful hints about the scene I'm about to experience first - hand!

To be honest, the brothel scene will be completely new to me, but I can't wait to experience it.

From what I understand, at Liberty and Mon Rouge, 60.00 is the start rate for half an hour, but what would that entail specifically? I can't seem to find exactly what is offered on the official sites of either place.

My other concern will be taking the s-bahn and u-bahn and other modes of public transportation, though I'm sure I'll manage! (first time in Germany).

Does anyone know if Mary ([url]http://www.monrouge.de/mary.html[/url]) still works at Mon Rouge? Or any reports of any encounters?

She's high up on the list as of presently.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=776339&postcount=48[/url]

If English is a real concern you might consider Kamila Dee as a destination. Many of the KD girls speak English and again it says on the website who speaks what. But it is a higher priced bordello and you will get no uncovered services, i.e. bbbj, there.

Have fun and don't forget to report on your activities for the info you receive here.

AM[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Deedee123]My other concern will be taking the s-bahn and u-bahn and other modes of public transportation, though I'm sure I'll manage! (first time in Germany).[/QUOTE]I'm excited for you! For me, exploring cities like Berlin via public transportation is almost as good as sex. (which probably explains why I didn't get laid on my two visits last year).

The Berlin tourist bureau has several locations around the city. The one in the main train station (Hauptbahnhof) is easy to find on the main (ground) floor. They can help you find an inexpensive room, tell you about shows, exhibits, public transportation, etc. Don't get the Berlin Card unless you plan to visit at least 2 of the qualifying museums/sites each day. But the transportation day passes are generally a good deal. Note the zones.

When not visiting bordellos, you might find a certain musical a fun experience if it's still playing: "Tanz der Vampyre" (Dance of the Vampires), which is a musical adaptation of Polanski's film. You don't need to know German. It's melodrama: singing! Dancing! And off-topic here!

Charlottenburg Palace is worth at least 3-4 hours.

I envy you. I have to wait until June to return if things go right.

Rufus

It had been a long 5 hours in the car from FFM, and as my lift was going to be dropping me off at Halensee S-bahn, I thought the perfect way to unwind would be to pop around the corner to Salon Prestige. The place is easy to find on the ground floor of the first apartment block in Ringbahn Str. Buzzed in through the outer door and quickly into the apartment.

The Hausfrau led me to a fairly small room, which was nicely appointed with an oriental theme, and asked if I had anyone specific in mind. As I hadn’t had time to do any research, I asked for the line up. There were 3 girls available: Chantal (no pics on website - fuller figured but with a very pretty face), Kisha (nice figure, but face was a bit plain compared to the others) and Maria. Maria struck me immediately as very desirable with her long blond hair and slender, but not skanky figure. Having made my choice, we agreed for ½ hour. She offered me a chance to refresh and I was led along the corridor to a shower. I was given 5 minutes and then taken back to the original room. It was nice to note that this time was not included in the total.

On the bed, we enjoyed a few minutes stroking and fondling before she offered the BJ. This was OK, if slightly toothy at times. During this she was happy for some fingering of her pussy which felt nicely wet, although with no finger penetration. After a while, I asked to DATY and she lay back. Her pussy was perfectly formed and had a nice fresh taste and smell. She was not a loud moaner, and the feedback seemed just about right.

The sex was fairly ordinary mish, but highly pleasurable all the same given the view of my cock slipping in and out of her pussy, and the pleasure of giving it to such a beauty. No problems reaching a satisfying cum. There were a few minutes left after the clean-up and she asked if I would like a massage to fill the time, which was just what I needed to get out the last of the kinks after the trip.

Overall, I was impressed by the establishment. It was clean and nicely presented, with a selection of good looking SP and no hurry to get you out the door once you’ve cum. It is a bit more expensive than my usual haunts, but I can see where the extra goes. If I find myself in that area again with an itch to scratch, I will certainly be stopping by.

[QUOTE=Deedee123]

From what I understand, at Liberty and Mon Rouge, 60.00 is the start rate for half an hour, but what would that entail specifically? I can't seem to find exactly what is offered on the official sites of either place.
[/QUOTE]
If you do not negotiate any extras, you will get a stroke and fondle to start, and once you are hard, CBJ and sex, usually with a couple of position changes if you want. Anything else such as kissing, BBBJ, CIM etc are all to be negotiated and settled in advance.


[QUOTE=Deedee123]

My other concern will be taking the s-bahn and u-bahn and other modes of public transportation, though I'm sure I'll manage! (first time in Germany).

[/QUOTE]
Public transport in Berlin is really a doddle. Use this english version of the local transport association website to get timings and connections:

[url]http://www.vbb-fahrinfo.de/hafas/query.exe/en?[/url]

Buy a ticket at the machines in the S/U Bahn stations (they have an english button on them). A single ticket is valid for up to 2 hours once validated in one of the red machines on the platform If you're going to travel more than 3 times in the day (up to 3am the following morning) get a day card. An AB ticket will get you anywhere within main Berlin and can be used on all modes of transport.

The main thing is to enjoy yourself!

[QUOTE=Deedee123]From what I understand, at Liberty and Mon Rouge, 60.00 is the start rate for half an hour, but what would that entail specifically? I can't seem to find exactly what is offered on the official sites of either place.

My other concern will be taking the s-bahn and u-bahn and other modes of public transportation, though I'm sure I'll manage! (first time in Germany).

Does anyone know if Mary ([url]http://www.monrouge.de/mary.html[/url]) still works at Mon Rouge? Or any reports of any encounters?

She's high up on the list as of presently.[/QUOTE]

Actually Mon Rouge is slightly more expensive. They the cost for half an hour, basic (cbj, sex) is 70 euros. I also find that the extras are more expensive at MR. 20 euros for FO (bbbj) 30 for FT (bbbjcim) and I think 50 for anal. Though very few of the MR girls provide anal as far as I can tell.

They do however, as I have mentioned before, have an unadvertised special of 100 euros for 1 hour. To take advantage of this you have to book and begin the session before 16:00 on any weekday (excluding holidays but then I don't think they normally open on holidays). IMO, considering the quality of girl and service at MR, this is one of the best deals going. The only unfortunate thing is that some of the best girls (Nicky!) only work evenings.

As for Mary-I'll give them a ring and get back to you on that. Mon Rouge does sometimes leave a girls picture up on the web site long after she has gone on vacation (Crissy). I do not get the feeling that this is deliberately dishonest of them, just that they are not so together with their web site. I have nothing but praise for Mon Rouge as I have never had a bad session there. It is a very well run bordello, worth visiting.

BTW, unless you are really adverse to large fake breasts I really highly recommend Nicky. She provides one of the best PSE sessions I have ever experienced. Well worth the price of admission. She seems to love to perform for herself as she continually watches herself in the mirror and gets really, really dirty.

[QUOTE=Deedee123]

Does anyone know if Mary ([url]http://www.monrouge.de/mary.html[/url]) still works at Mon Rouge? Or any reports of any encounters?

She's high up on the list as of presently.[/QUOTE]

Just gave them a call and was told that Mary works every day until 20:00.

I also did a quick search on a German forum and cam up with a short review.

Briefly-the reviewer was not overly enthusiastic but did say that she was a nice girl and the service was decent. He also said that there was not much chemistry between them. The report was about a year old.

Thanks so much for everyone's input! I'll have to take Mary up on the 100/an hour offer at some point. And Nicky looks quite desirable, so I'll probably see her at some point too.

What kind of extras does Nicky offer?

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Just gave them a call and was told that Mary works every day until 20:00.

I also did a quick search on a German forum and cam up with a short review.

Briefly-the reviewer was not overly enthusiastic but did say that she was a nice girl and the service was decent. He also said that there was not much chemistry between them. The report was about a year old.[/QUOTE]

One last question here: how easy is it to gain access to both Monrouge and Liberty? Are they both on the first floor? (Apologies if this has been already answered in the archives!) I'd hate to get off the metrobus from my hotel and find it difficult to get into the brothel!

I'm also curious if any of the girls at Monrouge or Liberty offer anal.

Also on my list (which I'll be sure to offer a report on once I've experienced): April at Kamilla Dee:

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/april-e.htm[/url]

But, still, I'm ultimately waiting for the "parade" of girls when I'm at any of the brothels, in order to fuck whichever strikes my whimsy at the moment!

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Just gave them a call and was told that Mary works every day until 20:00.

I also did a quick search on a German forum and cam up with a short review.

Briefly-the reviewer was not overly enthusiastic but did say that she was a nice girl and the service was decent. He also said that there was not much chemistry between them. The report was about a year old.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Deedee123]Thanks so much for everyone's input! I'll have to take Mary up on the 100/an hour offer at some point. And Nicky looks quite desirable, so I'll probably see her at some point too.

What kind of extras does Nicky offer?[/QUOTE]

I am not 100% sure but I think she does bbbjcim, facials, bbbj, and maybe a few others. No anal though.

[QUOTE=Deedee123]One last question here: how easy is it to gain access to both Monrouge and Liberty? Are they both on the first floor? (Apologies if this has been already answered in the archives!) I'd hate to get off the metrobus from my hotel and find it difficult to get into the brothel!

I'm also curious if any of the girls at Monrouge or Liberty offer anal.

Also on my list (which I'll be sure to offer a report on once I've experienced): April at Kamilla Dee:

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/april-e.htm[/url]

But, still, I'm ultimately waiting for the "parade" of girls when I'm at any of the brothels, in order to fuck whichever strikes my whimsy at the moment![/QUOTE]

Mon Rouge is one floor up. Liberty on the second floor (1st floor is one floor up in Germany). I believe though that both buildings have elevators. In fact with Liberty I am sure as they advertise as a wheelchair accessible bordello.

Imagine that.

But for that matter Artemis is also fully wheelchair accessible.

April. You are a man of fine taste.

If you go back to April/May 2008 you will find a review of my first session with April. I saw her quite a number of time last summer and in fact had quite a crush on her. I say this so that you know that it may not be so easy for me to give an objective opinion now.

But I will try. She is a very nice young lady IMO. However, most of my sessions with her were were not terribly sexual. Lots of kissing & oral (me on her) but the fucking was not so great. I am not 100% sure why but it probably had more to do with me than her. I found her to be quite a sexual person and if you click with her you will have a great time.

The last time I saw her (three months back?) the session was much more sexual for some reason and she received and took a vigorous rogering from old Angus.

Now the bad news. As far as I can tell, at the moment she is not working at KD. When I spoke with her last October she told me that she was kind of sick of the business and was taking some time off. Though still on the web site she has not been on the schedule since August. And I do check.

My speculation is that the business was hard on her and she did not really recognize this.

IMO, the best KD has at the moment is Valentina. But she is also not always there. She lives out of town and comes every couple of months for two weeks or so. She is a really fun fuck. Also see my report from a bout a month ago.

Cheers

AM

I've had the pleasure of visiting KD on three occassions over the past two years. It is a great brothel, located on a side street with a little traffic. The door may be hard to locate. And you ring the flat labeled Text and Form. Have never encountered any other inhabitants of this building going in and have never felt uneasy about the whole entry ordeal.

Once rung in you head up two flights of stairs. No lift here. And ring a door bell. You're greeted by a woman who manages the introductions in a smaller bedroom across from the front door.

On my first visit, I really lucked out.-- there were about 8 women working, each more stunning than the next. On subsequent visits, I only saw 4. But they were all quite beautiful. All of the ladies spoke English quite well. And there was never a problem communicating with either the manager or the women.

Once you make your selection, you settle financial matters and you're off to the room of their choice. Or whatever's available. All the rooms that I have been in are clean and comfortable. The beds are large. And you have access to the bathroom on each floor. They go to great lengths at KD to keep you from seeing other customers, with an elaborate bell and warning system! Your hostess is responsible for your discretion, and they take it very seriously.

Over my three visits, I've had three hour-long session. All have featured a protected BJ and intercourse with rubber. The three girls I chose are still there. And I've checked over the months.- there is very little turnover and the quality is very high.

Here are some brief remarks on each of my choices:

Clarissa. Absolutley stunning and incredibly nice.- a beautiful face, boobs and ass. She wears boots and is very sensitive about her feet, so she keeps long black stockings on throughout. I came twice in an hour with her.- Clarissa is a great GFE and is interested in making you happy.

Flavia. Very attractive but very mechanical. Told me that our experience was like a dance. Gave a nice massage but seemed to be going through the motions. Came once and she didn't offer or was not interested in offering a second time. Was more interested in talking.-

Pia.- I had seen her picture on KD's excellent website and really wanted to meet her. She was available when I visited last time. My sense is that she works only on weekdays.- She's a thirty-something brunette, with a wonderful attitude. Very happy, relaxed and ready to play. I had really wanted to see her, so I was very much in the mood. She asked if I wanted a massage or get right into it.- she's a great kisser, gave great protected oral and invited me to finger her and perform reverse oral. She ended up masturbting to orgasm, while I fingered her with a latex glove on.- Very worked up, I entered her and came quickly. We spent the rest of the time laughing, talking and kissing. I left there feeling great.

So, that's my take on Kamilla-Dee. Do some research on the web before you go. See who is available and take the full hour for 160 Euros.- it's worth it. I've seen K-D described as the classiest brothel in Berlin.- no arugment here and much better than the others I've been to in that city.

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I had the good fortune to spend 4 night in berlin in early jan

I found this thread a fantastic resource in planning my evenings, so I thought I'd contribute and add my experience for the greater good.

Its only been a week and I've already forgotten the girls names! But I thought I could share my experiences with the different venues.

Mon Rouge

Very easy to find, english on the telephone was very limited but when I got there fluent, classic brothel decor I thought, line up was only 3 girls. On a.10 scale where 10 is a model and 0 my dead grandmother. Two were a 7 and one an 8. Cost was 100 euro for 40 mins. BBBJ and kissing were extra. The girl I chose (the 8) was bulgarian early 20s, GFE and into recieving oral (big O while holding my hand). She changed positions as requested, very customer satisfaction orientated. A good experience.

La Folie

Again english was spoken, 15 euro entry. Put your clothes into locker, into bar with a towel around the waist, about 20 men and 10 girls, pretty good party atmosphere at midnight. Girls ranged from 6 to 8 on my scale. Occasionally a girl would dance on the pole. Pretty smokey. Girls took it in turns to introduce themselves and walk around. All spoke english. Although there was a drink hussle. For little bottles of champagne at 19 euros (I think) if you wanted the girl to sit and chat they asked you to buy them a lady drink. Slected a mid 20s german girl, very friendly and talkative. It was 75 euros for 30 mins. Room was dark and a bit dingy but clean (not as upscale as mon-rouge). Again a good GFE experience. She seemed quite into the sex, allowing oral with fingers, lots of positions, although had to ask for covered oral on me. Had a good chat after the event and a big wet kiss on the lips as we parted. Nice. Wish I could remember her name.

Love Angels Agency

Had a tiring day so I thought I'd be lazy and get a delivery. Also I love it when a girl visits me. The waiting for the quiet knock on th door! Always feels less of a production line when you visit the girl to me. Guy spoke good english on the phone, but said only his deluxe angels (at the higher price of 130 for 60 mins) were available. Denise sounded the best (she is on the website), she was slightly early and sexily dressed under her coat. Very attractive german girl with a good figure, natural tits. Although I would guess shes more like 28-30 than 23. Everyone in germany smells of smoke. Sadly she was rather business like. Tolerated my part undressing her and fondeling her tits, but was then stright into the CBJ for all of 1 min and then lubing herself and asking what position would l like? I do like a little romance so this wasnt a great start for me. Although she was very patient and tolerated my poking away at her in a variety of positions on the bed and then on the sofa. After about 30 mins, she started whining about wasnt I going to come? I did pursuade her work on her o first, and she did come pretty hard, but then she started whining again. So I bent her over and banged her hard till I came. She was out the door 45 mins after she arrived (and this included two showers). Denise was a nice girl, but somehow we just didn't click.

Artemis

I had a hard time getting there, got the train to a nearby station, it's on one side of a busy big road, but none of the footpaths seems to go the right way and I couldn't find a way to cross the road. Ended up climbing up an embankment and running along the tracks to get over, not recommended. If I went again, I'd get a cab.

Very big and impressive place. Pottered around downstairs in the sauna and pools, but no girls down there. Main bar maybe 30 girls 60 guys I would estimate, girls ranging from a 6 to 9. Sitting at the bar (10 euro for a beer! ) girls circulated and say hello, all speaking english. But some sit around on couches and wait for you to approach. Didn't like the pushy nature of the girls who came up to me. I had all night, so I didn't rush. In the kino downstairs, I had it myself and in german fashion was er getting into the film when the Hungarian girl found me. In daylight I would say she a 7. 30ish blonde big tits / ass, bit heavy. Alarm bells were going off in my head ("shes a shark, shes a shark") but as we sat there she fondled my cock and put my hands on her tits and I weakened. Quick BBJ in the kino and then into a nearby room. I use my stopwatch. 8 min in and shes saying, come on my tits and take the condom off. Arguing is going to go nowhere so I do just that. Not a great start but youhave to find the upside and it was the first time I've recieved a BJ in public.

After a sauna, I go back to the bar and watch the scene for a while. A tall brunette catches me eye after a while. She just sits there so I go up and say hello. Romanian. We talk for a while. We go upstairs and find a room. Big and comfortable and clean. Nice BBBJ she really takes her time, responds well to oral on her and apparently comes twice during the main event.

I eat and hang around in the bar. I spy a blonde angel with a pissed off face. I go and say hello. Polish, 20, part-time and new to the buisiness! She is an easy 9. We go upstairs and she gives me one of the best BBBJs I have ever recieved. Lovely firm body. Just eye contact from that beautifull face was worth the 60 euros.

Total cost 80+(3*60) = 260 euros

Top tip. Avoid the pushy girls like the plague and seek out the quites ones.

Not sure I can add much more. Tried to make the repot more about the venues that the girls as Icant remember thier names. Next time I'll make notes.

Hope this is of some use.

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Ah, decisions decisions!

I think Kamilla Dee will be the first place I'll go to. Laura looks ultra desirable.

Their website is also hardcore easy to read. What exactly is Analmassagen (although I have an idea - performed on her? how much for said extras?)

Also trying to figure out what Liebesschule is!

[QUOTE=Europunter]I've had the pleasure of visiting KD on three occassions over the past two years. It is a great brothel, located on a side street with a little traffic. The door may be hard to locate. And you ring the flat labeled Text and Form. Have never encountered any other inhabitants of this building going in and have never felt uneasy about the whole entry ordeal.

Once rung in you head up two flights of stairs. No lift here. And ring a door bell. You're greeted by a woman who manages the introductions in a smaller bedroom across from the front door.

On my first visit, I really lucked out.-- there were about 8 women working, each more stunning than the next. On subsequent visits, I only saw 4. But they were all quite beautiful. All of the ladies spoke English quite well. And there was never a problem communicating with either the manager or the women.

Once you make your selection, you settle financial matters and you're off to the room of their choice. Or whatever's available. All the rooms that I have been in are clean and comfortable. The beds are large. And you have access to the bathroom on each floor. They go to great lengths at KD to keep you from seeing other customers, with an elaborate bell and warning system! Your hostess is responsible for your discretion, and they take it very seriously.

Over my three visits, I've had three hour-long session. All have featured a protected BJ and intercourse with rubber. The three girls I chose are still there. And I've checked over the months.- there is very little turnover and the quality is very high.

Here are some brief remarks on each of my choices:

Clarissa. Absolutley stunning and incredibly nice.- a beautiful face, boobs and ass. She wears boots and is very sensitive about her feet, so she keeps long black stockings on throughout. I came twice in an hour with her.- Clarissa is a great GFE and is interested in making you happy.

Flavia. Very attractive but very mechanical. Told me that our experience was like a dance. Gave a nice massage but seemed to be going through the motions. Came once and she didn't offer or was not interested in offering a second time. Was more interested in talking.-

Pia.- I had seen her picture on KD's excellent website and really wanted to meet her. She was available when I visited last time. My sense is that she works only on weekdays.- She's a thirty-something brunette, with a wonderful attitude. Very happy, relaxed and ready to play. I had really wanted to see her, so I was very much in the mood. She asked if I wanted a massage or get right into it.- she's a great kisser, gave great protected oral and invited me to finger her and perform reverse oral. She ended up masturbting to orgasm, while I fingered her with a latex glove on.- Very worked up, I entered her and came quickly. We spent the rest of the time laughing, talking and kissing. I left there feeling great.

So, that's my take on Kamilla-Dee. Do some research on the web before you go. See who is available and take the full hour for 160 Euros.- it's worth it. I've seen K-D described as the classiest brothel in Berlin.- no arugment here and much better than the others I've been to in that city.

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[QUOTE=Deedee123]Ah, decisions decisions!

I think Kamilla Dee will be the first place I'll go to. Laura looks ultra desirable.

Their website is also hardcore easy to read. What exactly is Analmassagen (although I have an idea - performed on her? how much for said extras?)

Also trying to figure out what Liebesschule is![/QUOTE]

You know I am not 100% sure what exactly is involved in anal massage. I imagine it involves prostate massage which, if you are into fingers up the but, can be very exciting.

Having tired it myself (not at KD) I can say that I am not completely there with it. The lady really has to know what she is doing or it can be simply uncomfortable. Some formal training is required IMO.

Liebesschule translates as "love school" and I think this means that the lady gives some instruction on how to please a lady. I would personally stay away unless it was part of the regular session. i.e. I would not pay extra for this.

One of the thing I personally like about KD is that though the price is high, I never really have to consider extras there as I see it as an all inclusive price. Some of the ladies do more than other (kissing etc.) and I always depends upon chemistry and comfort level. But I have always had (minimum service) cbj, daty and safe sex in multiple positions. The ladies there are very safety conscious and I would never dream of asking any of them for anything considered unsafe.

That being said, if you read back a few pages in the reports you will find a report I wrote about Babsi who provided me with a bbbjcim, no extra cost. Too bad it was a not very good (toothy) bj. This was during her first week of work at KD and I doubt very much that it would be offered again. I did ask one of the other girls about the official policy and was told that bbbj at KD is not absolutely forbidden but that the girls are told simply that they do not have to provide it. So I guess unless you had very, very good rapport with a particular girl it is best just to forget about it. I have often found that if a girl is really good at oral then the cover is easily forgotten. Though I do like it uncovered.

[QUOTE=Dr G Freeman]Mon Rouge

Very easy to find, english on the telephone was very limited but when I got there fluent, classic brothel decor I thought, line up was only 3 girls. On a.10 scale where 10 is a model and 0 my dead grandmother. Two were a 7 and one an 8. Cost was 100 euro for 40 mins. BBBJ and kissing were extra. The girl I chose (the 8) was bulgarian early 20s, GFE and into recieving oral (big O while holding my hand). She changed positions as requested, very customer satisfaction orientated. A good experience.

[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the report. Too bad you can not remember the name of you MR girl. Can you say more on the description of the girl? I am wondering if it might have been Crissy that you saw. I would put her at a strong 8. IMO she was a 9 but she has changed her image a bit (from innocent girl from the sticks to lady of the night and she dropped a point in my score card) in the past month since returning from her vacation.

And I would be much less forgiving in your review of Love Angels. Paying a premium and then she is nagging you to finish? Out the door well under time you paid for? But then I know that if I don't click with a girl and she is in a rush I will often just cut them loose early anyway and chalk it up to experience. Who wants to hang out with a girl when she has one foot out the door anyway.

Thanks for the warning.

Cheers

AM

Hi again,

After my defence of the escort scene a few threads below, and in spite of my not-so-good experiences last time (see report), I am eager to give it another go. Having tried La passion and haushotelbesuche, without any great recommendation, I found the following ones.

[url]www.spree-escort.de[/url] (not so detailed info)
[url]www.berlin-beauties.de[/url] (good selection on offer)
[url]www.girlsvisit.de[/url] (professional website)

Can anyone help me out with some experiences or recommendations there? Reports are guaranteed. (Angus – Is there any intel on the local boards?) Grateful for your help.

If this time it does not work out, it will my last shot at the escort scene and I guess I will follow the members advice to KD, MR, Liberty, etc

DP

ps: a big thanks to Dr. Freeman for the great report. Good warning on Love Angels

I forget which ISG member and Berlin thread reader is also a fan of Marie, who was sometime back practicing her top notch bbbj skills at Mac is, but who ever you are I am happy to point out that she is back in the line up.

[url]http://www.erotische-modelle.de/marie.html[/url]

I hope to take a trip there in the near future and will post a report. Hopefully her skills have, if anything, improved. This girl give a really high quality sloppy drool-y bj with deep throat.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I forget which ISG member and Berlin thread reader is also a fan of Marie, who was sometime back practicing her top notch bbbj skills at Mac is, but who ever you are I am happy to point out that she is back in the line up.

[url]http://www.erotische-modelle.de/marie.html[/url]

I hope to take a trip there in the near future and will post a report. Hopefully her skills have, if anything, improved. This girl give a really high quality sloppy drool-y bj with deep throat.[/QUOTE]

Oh, Angus, you made my day...!! It was me being the biggest fan of Marie. It was actually this week I thought about her again, remembering her dirty porn sessions...this girl know what a man needs and she is good at it..!!

Hell, I'm gonna check her out real soon again...hope, she didn't lose one bit of her quality in her nearly one year break from Mac.

Thanks again,
The AF

[QUOTE=Dr G Freeman]
Artemis

I had a hard time getting there, got the train to a nearby station, it's on one side of a busy big road, but none of the footpaths seems to go the right way and I couldn't find a way to cross the road. Ended up climbing up an embankment and running along the tracks to get over, not recommended.[/QUOTE]And highly illegal and expensive if you get caught! What do we not do for a bit of poon? :-)

Thanks for the report. If you try to use the girl's name at least once when talking with her, it tends to stick in the memory much better.

I am wondering if it might have been Crissy that you saw?

Sorry angus, I wish I could remember, I don't see her on the website.

I have this recollection name started with an 'M'.

[QUOTE=The AF]Oh, Angus, you made my day...!! It was me being the biggest fan of Marie. It was actually this week I thought about her again, remembering her dirty porn sessions...this girl know what a man needs and she is good at it..!!

Hell, I'm gonna check her out real soon again...hope, she didn't lose one bit of her quality in her nearly one year break from Mac.

Thanks again,
The AF[/QUOTE]

Please let me know how it goes if you are first to visit.

....seems to be now offering take out.

[url]http://www.redschus-escort.de/UntitledFrameset-1.html[/url]

For those who are interested in this bordello. Checking the prices though there seems to be a bit of vagueness (at least for my limited German skills) as to the price. As near as I can make out it is 100 € for a visit but there is something about an agent fee that I do not quite understand-if it is included in the price or added.

If anyone can clarify it would be appreciated.

The pictures of Mia at KD rock my world. Anyone been with her? She's also not on the schedule so does that mean that she's no longer there, on vacation or appointments only?

Has anyone on this forum had a good experience with a girl on Oranienburger strasse. Everything I have herd previously says that it is a conn and very expensive.

It's not really my thing but some of the girls are extremely hot. Last time I was over I had a chat with a Girl who seemed pretty genuine, she suggested it was only 80 euros for 45 minutes. This seemed to include most things (apart from the obvious extras) and was way cheaper than I was expected.

My brain still won out though and I declined (remembering things I have herd on this and other forums).

Any advice?

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]....seems to be now offering take out.

[url]http://www.redschus-escort.de/UntitledFrameset-1.html[/url]

For those who are interested in this bordello. Checking the prices though there seems to be a bit of vagueness (at least for my limited German skills) as to the price. As near as I can make out it is 100 € for a visit but there is something about an agent fee that I do not quite understand-if it is included in the price or added.

If anyone can clarify it would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]


As I had read already last week somewhere and also as stated on their web-site the brothel opposite of Hase, known as Pin-Up Girls, has changed its business. It is now called RedShu's and has a cooperation with Freudenhaus Hase. You will find some former Pin-Up girls work at Hase now and some Hase bunnies offer Escort services via RedShu.

The pricing basically says that in the 1 hour standard rate of 100 Euro payable in cash to the girl the agency cost and 19% VAT are included. But you are free to tip the girl if you like or negotiate extras with her and give tips for that. You can also pre-wire the standard rate if you book and pre-arrange a meeting. They offer long intimate sessions, overnight actions, boot tours and even weekend trips as well as social escort or boot tours without intimacy. There is also and option offered that you can book a session in "their suite", which costs 35 Euro rent per hour extra. 2 hours 60 Euro, 3 hours 85 Euro. Most longer-term arrrangements include food and drinks, mostly Prosecco. Some erotic fantasies are offered to be arrangeable, too, like cream and fruit erotic games, threesomes, transsexual threesomes, voyeur sessions or Haremsex (some kinda group sex with three ladies).

Interesting seems for me that some of the Hase bunnies seem to offer a bit more services via RedShu escort than at their main base at the Freudenhaus.

Reports are always welcome..!!

I myself am not so much in the escort scene yet, but Anna from RedShu (formerly at Pin-Up Girls) and now listed at Hase has been on my wishlist for quite a while. Also wondering if Chayene will be back at one of these establishments, as she seems to have left also LaPassion Escort recently. Chayenne is defientely a worthwhile experience, although there have been reports she is reluctant to service non-german speaking customers. I myself am native German speaker but my background is middle-eastern, and Chayenne was very fine with me, so there is no issue (as suggested in preivious reports) like prejudice against foreigners involved.

Have fun,
The AF

[QUOTE=JustGotBack]The pictures of Mia at KD rock my world. Anyone been with her? She's also not on the schedule so does that mean that she's no longer there, on vacation or appointments only?[/QUOTE]

Sorry, I can not personally vouch for Mia. But as she is with KD you are pretty safe to be assured that you will have a good time. I have never personally had a truly "bad" session at KD. Only sometimes if the chemistry is really not there I have had luke warm sessions, a couple.

I notice that some of the girls take extended leaves from KD and their picture remains on the site. Sometimes it means that they live out of town (Valentina) and sometimes just that they do not work all the time. I suggest that you call KD and ask. You can usually find an English speaker and I am sure that they will tell you what they know.

If you do see her please do write a report.

[QUOTE=The AF]As I had read already last week somewhere and also as stated on their web-site the brothel opposite of Hase, known as Pin-Up Girls, has changed its business. It is now called RedShu's and has a cooperation with Freudenhaus Hase. You will find some former Pin-Up girls work at Hase now and some Hase bunnies offer Escort services via RedShu.

The pricing basically says that in the 1 hour standard rate of 100 Euro payable in cash to the girl the agency cost and 19% VAT are included. But you are free to tip the girl if you like or negotiate extras with her and give tips for that. You can also pre-wire the standard rate if you book and pre-arrange a meeting. They offer long intimate sessions, overnight actions, boot tours and even weekend trips as well as social escort or boot tours without intimacy. There is also and option offered that you can book a session in "their suite", which costs 35 Euro rent per hour extra. 2 hours 60 Euro, 3 hours 85 Euro. Most longer-term arrrangements include food and drinks, mostly Prosecco. Some erotic fantasies are offered to be arrangeable, too, like cream and fruit erotic games, threesomes, transsexual threesomes, voyeur sessions or Haremsex (some kinda group sex with three ladies).

Interesting seems for me that some of the Hase bunnies seem to offer a bit more services via RedShu escort than at their main base at the Freudenhaus.

Reports are always welcome..!!

I myself am not so much in the escort scene yet, but Anna from RedShu (formerly at Pin-Up Girls) and now listed at Hase has been on my wishlist for quite a while. Also wondering if Chayene will be back at one of these establishments, as she seems to have left also LaPassion Escort recently. Chayenne is defientely a worthwhile experience, although there have been reports she is reluctant to service non-german speaking customers. I myself am native German speaker but my background is middle-eastern, and Chayenne was very fine with me, so there is no issue (as suggested in preivious reports) like prejudice against foreigners involved.

Have fun,
The AF[/QUOTE]

Thanks AF.

I did notice that Chayene has disappeared from the La Passion web site. I also noticed that she was at a new site Ornella Girls,

[url]http://www.ornella-girls.de/index.html[/url]

but upon checking just now she has also disappeared from this site. Interestingly Ornella Girls also seems to operate out of the same Hof as Freudenhaus & Redschu. At least the address (45 Hochstr. Wedding) is the same.

If I see her appear anywhere else I will let you know. As I am sure is apparent I spend way to much time checking these things out.

You might check the adult ads at Kijiji from time to time.

[url]http://berlin.kijiji.de/f-Kontaktanzeigen-Flirt-Abenteuer-Erotik-W0QQCatIdZ95[/url]

I read on a German forum that this is where Marie has been advertising for the past year though I never saw an ad that I identified as her myself.

But I think that girls who want a bit of independence often advertise here as it is free for them. Perhaps Chayenne has burn out a it. It would not surprise me as she struck me as a hard working girl who offered a high level of service. That has to have some consequences eventually.

[QUOTE=JustGotBack]The pictures of Mia at KD rock my world. Anyone been with her? She's also not on the schedule so does that mean that she's no longer there, on vacation or appointments only?[/QUOTE]
If I remember well, Mia and her friend Nicole don't work very often : you may try to ask for an "private" appointment also called "escort" (200 Euros for the first hour, normal price for extended time)

[QUOTE=Soriano991]

Any advice?[/QUOTE]


80€ will buy you a half hour at Liberty (in comfort) with bbbj, no cim.

My advise is to stick with this unless the street has some strong appeal to you.
In that case go for it and let us know how it turns out.

[QUOTE=JustGotBack]The pictures of Mia at KD rock my world. Anyone been with her? She's also not on the schedule so does that mean that she's no longer there, on vacation or appointments only?[/QUOTE]

I found on the German forum a review that was fairly positive. The service was said to be good. Her breasts though are man made and apparently not as nice in person as in the photos. Usually the case.

Well, it may not be much (second hand review) but gives an idea.

AM

[QUOTE=Dead Poet]Hi again,

After my defence of the escort scene a few threads below, and in spite of my not-so-good experiences last time (see report), I am eager to give it another go. Having tried La passion and haushotelbesuche, without any great recommendation, I found the following ones.

[url]www.spree-escort.de[/url] (not so detailed info)
[url]www.berlin-beauties.de[/url] (good selection on offer)
[url]www.girlsvisit.de[/url] (professional website)

Can anyone help me out with some experiences or recommendations there? Reports are guaranteed. (Angus – Is there any intel on the local boards?) Grateful for your help.

If this time it does not work out, it will my last shot at the escort scene and I guess I will follow the members advice to KD, MR, Liberty, etc

DP

ps: a big thanks to Dr. Freeman for the great report. Good warning on Love Angels[/QUOTE]

Sorry, missed this one from a few days back.

See my Escorts post from the Berlin Guide.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=776330&postcount=996[/url]

Spree Escorts recently changed their name from Venus Visits. Exact same website, just new name. Not a good sign IMO.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]80€ will buy you a half hour at Liberty (in comfort) with BBBJ, no cim.

My advise is to stick with this unless the street has some strong appeal to you. In that case go for it and let us know how it turns out.[/QUOTE]Thanks Angus,

The girl in question said 80 euros was for 45 mins in a hotel room, just off the street. I asked her about a million questions because I was expected same scam/ trick to get more money. But there didn't seem to be one, CBJ, full sex, massage, anal extra, no cim of face but anywhere else, no kissing to lips but anywhere else.

I'll think about it next time I'm over- if I go ahead I'll definetely write up a report.

Hi all,

I was just wondering how come there are not many reports here in this forum about Royal. From the website and the choice of girls it looks very, very promising and like a good deal among a good choice of ladies, like Jenny, Miriam, Nina, Lola and others. Does it mean it looks too good to be true? :-)

[url]http://www.royalgirl.de/unsere_ladies.php[/url]

Also I am wondering if anyone has ever tried this escort service that had been mentioned here today:

[url]http://www.girlsvisit.de/modelle.html[/url]

Some of the polish girls (Claudia, Angel, Klaudia, Denise) presented here look very, very hot and offer quite complete services. What obstacles have been encountered here by anyone?

Regards,
The AF

[QUOTE=The AF]Hi all,

I was just wondering how come there are not many reports here in this forum about Royal. From the website and the choice of girls it looks very, very promising and like a good deal among a good choice of ladies, like Jenny, Miriam, Nina, Lola and others. Does it mean it looks too good to be true? :-)

[/QUOTE]

I often wonder this myself. I think that it is that for the same price, KD is generally a better choice.

Not there are that many KD reports on here.

In fact I often wonder why there are not more reports in general...

I can not help with any of the ladies you mention but I can say that Tanja is a real beauty and has provided me with great service a couple of times.

[url]http://www.royalgirl.de/models/php/over.php?name=tanja[/url]

Everything safe (cbj) but really a nice girl IMO. She does tend to take extended periods of though.

I've been there a couple of times, and had a great time. Great line-up optically. However, sadly neither of the girls I saw are still there. Both said they were students who were only there when they wanted to earn a bit extra. From the way they spoke I could believe it, not the out and out pro at all. I got the impression they were more into the sex for that reason.

It's got the atmosphere of an old 1920s Berlin Puff. Not, I hesitate to add, that I was there back then.

Hi,

I have expounded the advantages of Monrouge a number of times previously on these pages. I find this to be an absolutely first-class facility, and my first port of call when I am feeling unadventurous, and looking for a session where satisfaction is guaranteed.

I have now enjoyed the company of half or more of the girls at Monrouge, so I though I would share the memory of my experiences.

For the uninitiated, Monrouge is located in Charlottenburg, on the first floor at Leibnitzstrasse 57. Accurate pictures of the girls are posted on their website [url]http://www.monrouge.de/[/url] but information as to prices and ‘extras’ is minimal. The ‘phone service is usually helpful and reliable. They are open late – about 3am or so. The Hausmutti is pleasant and will ask you if you have a particular girl in mind. They have a bar where you can meet the girls over a drink, or she will bring all the available talent to the room for you to choose from, as you prefer. The rooms are generally clean and adequately furnished, and showers, towels and bathrobes are provided. All in all, they make an effort to create a friendly and relaxed atmosphere.

I am something of a ‘tit man’, and MR has a generous complement of large-breasted girls, which probably explains at least in part the attraction of the place to me. I also generally prefer oral to penetrative sex, so you will find in my report a heavy bias towards girls who offer extras in this area. So, here follows the proceeds of my research, mainly in the DD division of their line-up:

[url]http://www.monrouge.de/jasmin.html[/url]

Jasmin was the girl that I went with on my first visit to MR, and she proved to be an excellent barometer of the establishment. A friendly and bubbly girl from the Dominican Republic with a womanly figure and large, well-shaped natural breasts, she offers a great deep-throat bbbj service with plenty of sloppy kisses and a CIM finish. I have seen her 5 or 6 times and she has never let me down. We have struck up something of a rapport, and I suspect that she puts on something of a show for me as a ‘regular’ of hers, but I imagine that she would prove a pleasurable partner for first timers as well. N.B. – Jasmin speaks no English at all (German and Spanish only) Recommended!

[url]http://www.monrouge.de/nicky.html[/url]

A really sexy, dirty girl to be enjoyed solo or as part of a duet. A slightly slutty, porn-star face and figure whose promise is fully supported by the experience in the sack. Terrific blowjob skills, a wide range of services (although Angus has mentioned elsewhere that anal is off the menu) and a healthy sexual appetite ensure that Nicky is a Berlin experience not to be missed by the discerning monger. A must-visit!

[url]http://www.monrouge.de/nelly.html[/url]

Nelly is another attractive girl who, to my mind, looks better in the flesh than on the website. She also has a cracking pair of tits and a fit body. She radiates a somewhat more ‘homely’ persona than the previous two, but offers a really nice sloppy bbbj and CIM. I have seen her a couple of times and been fully satisfied on both occasions. I fucked her on one of my visits, which was nice enough, but she is a touch mechanical for my tastes and I would stick to oral in future. Mid-range by MR standards to my mind, and a good representation of the high-quality standards offered at this establishment. She and I get on OK, but with no particular spark. If you were to hit it off with her, I suspect that she would be an enthusiastic performer.

[url]http://www.monrouge.de/mary.html[/url]

My experience with Mary was so similar to that with the aforementioned Nelly that I would only be repeating myself if I tendered a fuller report, so, ‘see above’ is all I have to say about this girl.

[url]http://www.monrouge.de/katharina.html[/url]

Probably the only letdown that I have ever experienced at Monrouge was with Katharina. She appears really friendly looking in her photos, always smiling. Perhaps I caught her on an off day, but I found her to be a mechanical and disinterested pro, despite her tender years. She does have a huge pair of soft natural tits, which for me usually serves to excuse a multitude of shortcomings in other areas, but, at about 18 or 20 years of age she has already acquired a bit of a belly and a slightly sour demeanour to accompany her admittedly respectable blowjob skills, and she is a dull and unresponsive fuck. Perhaps she would prove a better companion for somebody else – this game is all about chemistry after all, but I won’t be seeing her again.

As I wrote this report, I realised that I haven’t had quite as many of the girls at MR as I had first thought – I have yet to spend time with either Maya or Bella, an omission that I may very well correct on my visit to Berlin this week.

I type slowly and laboriously, and am by nature quite lazy, so I am going to spare myself the effort of posting separately on a particular recommendation that I have been meaning to post here for some weeks. Sometimes you really hit it off with a girl, particularly if she is a part-timer who really enjoys sex and shares one’s own sexual preferences. I have had 3 sensational sessions with one girl at Celine69 by the name of Sina. Ignore the photos on the site – they are not representative in any way, to the extent that I am not sure that they are actually her pics at all. She has a really fun personality and cumms like a train – you just have to learn how to turn her on. For me, she is the archetypal hobbyfick. Maybe it is just that chemistry thing again, but if I was going to recommend to a friend one girl from all my Berlin experiences this would be the one: -

[url]http://www.celine-69.de/sina.html[/url]

Happy hunting!

Charlie

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After my recent dabble at a higher end of the local market than I usually indulge ([url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=835275&postcount=1280[/url] ), I thought I would carry on the theme with a visit to Van Kampen ([url]http://www.vankampenberlin.de/[/url] ).

As I believe has been mentioned before, the entrance is easily found next to a Bauhaus and auto-dealer which are easily visible as you get out of the S-Bahn station. If you are coming up from the U-Bahn, you’ll need to head towards the S-Bahn before you can see the target. It looks pretty discreet from outside, and it was only a moment from ringing the bell to getting buzzed in. Then it’s up 1 flight of stairs to the entrance. I got the impression that discretion is very important here as the haus-mutti and my chosen SP were very careful when letting me in, taking to the shower and back and on the exit. The room I was taken to was quite large with a bigger than average size bed and nicely if not extravagantly decorated.

The availability page of the web-site is so general as to be useless, so I hadn’t drawn up a short list and asked for the ‘vorstellung’ straight away. The line up was 6 girls, of which I only remember the names of the first girl that came in and of those that really interested me: Jasmine, Holly and Violetta. My inability to remember any more is no reflection on their appearance, as the whole line up was very pretty and I imagine that there would not be a shortage of choice to suit any taste, it’s just that those are the names that stuck. It came down to a difficult choice between Holly as the tall babe with long blond hair, and the petite Violetta with the “fuck-me” eyes. Those that have read the title will already know which way I went. The pictures on the website of Violetta do not do her any sort of justice and her aura has to be experienced in person to be appreciated.

I asked for the standard ½ hour for 80Eur, and she did not try to up sell, although I now see from her page that she offers a number of extras. I was taken to the shower and she said for me to knock when I was done (This time was not counted in the ½ hour). When I was taken back to the room, she had already spread a sheet on the bed, which I found to be a much nicer touch than the usual towel.

We started with a nice un-hurried fondle, which was all the more exciting in the way she was really rubbing her pussy hard against my leg and stiffening dick. When she asked if I would like for her to suck me now, I was plenty ready. Her CBJ was very good with plenty of pressure from her lips and tongue which made it feel almost as good as a BBBJ. She gave me about 5 minutes before positioning herself over me, and lowering herself down. This moment was quite a highlight as she had a really tight pussy, and I could feel myself straining to penetrate her fully. As I said, this was just because she was tight, as she certainly felt wet enough.

She rode me pretty hard with short strokes, really rubbing her clit up against me, and pressing down with her breasts against me. It really felt like she was getting off, and I’m sure I felt her pussy spasm with a cum – all very flattering. When she had lain still for a couple of moments after, she got me to roll over on top into mish, without pulling out. I then went at her, enjoying her now somewhat looser, but still nice and snug, pussy. All the while she kept a tight hold of my body and ran her nails sensuously down my back. When I came, I kept my cock in her for a little while as her tightness was still really pleasurable. After the clean-up, she offered me a massage which was nicely paced and ended up taking us a few minutes over time. She offered me another shower, but the pressure of making BVG connections late at night meant I had to go then. After I had dressed, she gave me a nice hug and kiss as we left the room, and again as I left the apartment.

As you might surmise from the above, this was one of the best mongering experiences I’ve had. It felt like a genuine GFE, even though I didn’t take any of the extras usually associated with this. The way she seemed to genuinely enjoy the sex was a great turn-on. I think that here was a case of definite value for money in a ‘you pay for what you get’ measure. I can see where this sort of more up-market establishment scores in its service as the whole visit feels far less hurried than at my usual haunts, where more often than not you get the feel that you should be going as soon as you’ve filled the gummi.

My only concern now is that I might have spoiled myself and it will be hard for any other place to measure up to this experience. In future I may have to stick with quality and not quantity.

[QUOTE=Puff Time]My only concern now is that I might have spoiled myself and it will be hard for any other place to measure up to this experience. In future I may have to stick with quality and not quantity.[/QUOTE]In my humble experience [never been to VK], Berlin is definitely a place that spoils, as I've seen nothing comoparable to it on my personal quality scale elsewhere.

[QUOTE=Charlie 123]Hi,

I have expounded the advantages of Monrouge a number of times previously on these pages. I find this to be an absolutely first-class facility, and my first port of call when I am feeling unadventurous, and looking for a session where satisfaction is guaranteed.

I have now enjoyed the company of half or more of the girls at Monrouge, so I though I would share the memory of my experiences.[/QUOTE]

Great report. I'd say that you pretty much have MR covered. Makes me think I had better branch out a bit as I have been regular with Adrianne. Sweet girl with a beautiful body but she could use some bj lessons from one of the deep sloppy crew.

Thanks.

AM

[QUOTE=Toscana]I've been there a couple of times, and had a great time. Great line-up optically. However, sadly neither of the girls I saw are still there. Both said they were students who were only there when they wanted to earn a bit extra. From the way they spoke I could believe it, not the out and out pro at all. I got the impression they were more into the sex for that reason.

It's got the atmosphere of an old 1920s Berlin Puff. Not, I hesitate to add, that I was there back then.[/QUOTE]


I have also had this experience. Some time back I showed up and went with an absolutely beautiful part timer (Lilly?) who told me that she was a dance student (what a body) who showed up very infrequently when she felt to and needed the cash. A great session it was mostly as she was so damn nice, not to mention totally hot.

I do think that Royal is a quality bordello with some quality girls. I just always find that KD is a bit easier to deal with. The schedule is accurate and they generally have the girls that are supposed to be there available.

Royal is most definitely worth a drop by though from time to time.

AM

Hi

I am very lucky to be in berlin these days. But after I have found out that sweety is not longer there and that I can not finde chayenne (also working at the place where sweety worked) I don't know what to choose for a nice 3 hour hotel escort.

I like an open minded WG, witch spend some time in the hotel pool and maybe do an A Service.

I know read all reports and visit all relvant pages. I tryed to finde some in the 100 euro range hour. But I am realy don't know.

Can someone help me with a reliabel tip. Maybe someone is in berlin thusday to Friday and we like to meet for a chat abote the wonderfull berlin scene.

Maybe

Solong will

[QUOTE=Will Smith69]Hi

I am very lucky to be in berlin these days. But after I have found out that sweety is not longer there and that I can not finde chayenne (also working at the place where sweety worked) I don't know what to choose for a nice 3 hour hotel escort.

I like an open minded WG, witch spend some time in the hotel pool and maybe do an A Service.

I know read all reports and visit all relvant pages. I tryed to finde some in the 100 euro range hour. But I am realy don't know.

Can someone help me with a reliabel tip. Maybe someone is in berlin thusday to Friday and we like to meet for a chat abote the wonderfull berlin scene.

Maybe

Solong will[/QUOTE]

Sorry I can not be much help here. I have more or less given up on the escort scene in Berlin and would only call one in if she looked spectacular.

I guess all I can suggest is to spend a bit more and call Kamilla Dee escort. They are a bit more than 100/hr. (I think a 4 hr. is about 500) but you will get a nice girl. I guess my feeling is that for an extended date it really has to be someone who you can, well, spend three hours with. So skanky ho with one eye out the door ain't going to cut it.

You might also give Mon Rouge a call. I believe the girls there are also available for escort but I have no idea what the price is. It may be a bit less than KD.

[QUOTE=Will Smith69]Hi

I am very lucky to be in berlin these days. But after I have found out that sweety is not longer there and that I can not finde chayenne (also working at the place where sweety worked) I don't know what to choose for a nice 3 hour hotel escort.

I like an open minded WG, witch spend some time in the hotel pool and maybe do an A Service.

I know read all reports and visit all relvant pages. I tryed to finde some in the 100 euro range hour. But I am realy don't know.

Can someone help me with a reliabel tip. Maybe someone is in berlin thusday to Friday and we like to meet for a chat abote the wonderfull berlin scene.

Maybe

Solong will[/QUOTE]Hi Will,

I am all for the escort scene, but as Angus pointed out, I too am losing hope over time. I have tried La Passion, Haushotelbesuche and girlsvisit...without great satisfaction. I read in another forum about pussycaty.de but it seems quite shady. There was also a negative report on Love Angels... so I guess I will wait for something new to show up.

Hopefully you will have a better experience. Do report.

DP

I was in Berlin for a fair with some colleques and decided to monger while we were in the city of bordellos

We get rid of unnecessary people at 9:00 and decided to got to Kamilla-dee. We were 4, but 2 other gentlemen joined us at the stairs. So 6 men outside. A lovely recepcionist welcame us. We sat in a red room, and she asked us to wait. She told us that there are only 3 girls at the moment and the club will be closed in one hour. We asked to see the girls. Chayenne + Babsi + Laura. Chayenne was a classical beauty, Babsi has an interesting face but she is big. Not fat, has perfect breast but big. Laura appeared only for 5 secs but she was perfect. So we were 4, and the others. We decidede to got to Van kampfen. But we could not find it. Then we go to a strip club next to our hotel. I could not remember the name but it was bad. Moldovian girls are dancing, nothing special.

The day aafter me and my best firend went to Kamilla-dee during day time, I wanna hit Laura but she was not there. So I took Anne, cause she told me that she was very good in body to body massage. Yes, she was very very good. Heaven. Time was limited, we have to be back to fair, so one pop, she rides on me, covered BJ etc etc.

She has small tits, but she was very friendly, enjoys sex, cute and elegant. You cansee her fotos at the web site.

[QUOTE=Dead Poet]Hi Will,

I am all for the escort scene, but as Angus pointed out, I too am losing hope over time. I have tried La Passion, Haushotelbesuche and girlsvisit...without great satisfaction. I read in another forum about pussycaty.de but it seems quite shady. There was also a negative report on Love Angels... so I guess I will wait for something new to show up.

Hopefully you will have a better experience. Do report.

DP[/QUOTE]

I used pussycaty once before when they had a different name. There is a report but I can not remember their old name.

As I remember it was not a bad session, just unspectacular. The girl was nice enough (very young & cute as I remember) but the service was lacking. On the website she had a very full menu of extras. In person she would not offer bbbj. So the agency is, as you say, not entirely honest. I also remember that they tacked on a transportation fee to the 100 euro fee for the girl which is sort of, well, bullshit IMO.

[QUOTE=Will Smith69]Hi

I am very lucky to be in berlin these days. But after I have found out that sweety is not longer there and that I can not finde chayenne (also working at the place where sweety worked) I don't know what to choose for a nice 3 hour hotel escort.

I like an open minded WG, witch spend some time in the hotel pool and maybe do an A Service.

I know read all reports and visit all relvant pages. I tryed to finde some in the 100 euro range hour. But I am realy don't know.

Can someone help me with a reliabel tip. Maybe someone is in berlin thusday to Friday and we like to meet for a chat abote the wonderfull berlin scene.

Maybe

Solong will[/QUOTE]Go back and read my reports from a couple of years ago. Eroticacademia was not cheap at 200 for 1st hr and 150 additional hr. I met 3 girls, one was great, one so-so (but did include A level) and one was a disaster.

Another girl I met at VanKamp. After a nice session she agreed to meet me at my hotel for 3 hours (400 euros if I recall). We took baths, massages and almost GFE. But everything was covered.

Looking forward to hear other elders' comments.

[QUOTE=Hedehoy]Laura appeared only for 5 secs but she was perfect.[/QUOTE]I cannot sing enough praises for Kamilla Dee.

Laura is truly perfect, if not a bit reserved. Not a GFE, but friendly service, great body, beautiful face and a wonderful massaging technique. Another great girl is Marianna: she can also carry a good conversation and make you feel special. Her I would call a true GFE.

I would be interested in hearing if anybody has had a good threesome experience at KD. Has anybody had the chance to spend time with Mia and Nicole together? THAT would be worth the price!

I have tried Liberty and regarding the looks of the girls, on a good day it is in par with KD. Slightly cheaper, but no complimentary shower, though. I would recommend Claire.

I went to KFS40 couple of years ago and if you are looking for a seedy, run-down place, you will find it there. Rooms were shabby, but clean and spacious, with a sink as a washing facility. I had a 30 minute session with two girls and was allowed to come twice in that time. No argument there. No "sweet and innocent" types here.

Plans are to try out the Royal and Van Kampen next time I am in town. And maybe Pussyclub.

To date my mongering activities in Berlin have been limited to the occasional outcall from the Hautnah agency (currently AWOL, again!), and a number of visits to Wohnungspuffs. I have posted here occasionally about my experiences.

Until this week, I didn't really reckon that the fkk scene was likely to be my cup of tea (too public, etc)

However, this week I found myself in Zurich with a few hours to kill and ended up in a place called Love Lounge. This seemed a really classy place, with a huge and tastefully furnished bar area and with bedrooms the size and quality of a suite in a very fancy hotel. The girls were fine too, but all clothed. I guess that Love Lounge is the Swiss equivalent of what an FKK club in Germany would be like.

So, as a direct consequence of my positive experience in Switzerland, I am now very keen to try out one of the FKK places in Berlin when I return at the end of the month. I have read extensively the reports on this forum. Everybody raves about Artemis, but the pics on their website seem to suggest a 'shabby-chic' that doesn't really appeal to me - I would prefer the sort of modern and fully equipped gaff like the one in Zurich (wet rooms and whirlpool baths in every room)

My question to you is:

I am looking for a high-class place with the best facilities, cost no object. Which of the Berlin establishments offers the best ambience and facilities?
Artemis? La Folie? A N Other?

Thx

Charlie

After the perfect session with anne, me and my friend also decided to find a time to visit Kamilla-dee again, just before 4 hours to drive tot he airport.

By the way, my friend took cyndi, with perfect big boobs and he said that was the experinence of his life.

By chance, Laura was there, and my firend took Sam.

Laura was very firiendly. She looks like a pornostar. With her jeans and thirt she was too hot.

She took me uptairs, another flat in the building. Full empthy.

She laid down and I played a bit with her. No finger f**k but her body was perfect, expecially her perfect po.

She offereed me 69, than some intercourse.

I told her that she was very beautiful, she was ashamed.

She acts like the owner of the club, most experinced lady in the club.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I guess my feeling is that for an extended date it really has to be someone who you can, well, spend three hours with. So skanky ho with one eye out the door ain't going to cut it.[/QUOTE]
This is very true.

From long, extended sessions I've had using outcall girls, I've learned that you and her better be on the same wavelength if you are spending this chunk of time together.

There are women who are a good f___ but who really are quite dull personality-wise and who can't make conversation. Once the physical stuff is out of the way you both have to genuinely enjoy spending time together.

Its a sure mood killer to be with a chick who's plan for the evening is to hide her disdain of you as best she can, kill time, collect her money and bolt.

The problem with the outcall escort scene is that you have no way of checking for this kind of chemistry first.

[QUOTE=JohnThomas0519]Go back and read my reports from a couple of years ago. Eroticacademia was not cheap at 200 for 1st hr and 150 additional hr. I met 3 girls, one was great, one so-so (but did include A level) and one was a disaster.

Another girl I met at VanKamp. After a nice session she agreed to meet me at my hotel for 3 hours (400 euros if I recall). We took baths, massages and almost GFE. But everything was covered.

Looking forward to hear other elders' comments.[/QUOTE]

I have never used Eroticacademia as the price always struck me as just to steep. I think that they even charge quite high for in call. Too bad as they do appear to have some lovely girls.

I also once arranged a private outcall, sidestepping the bordello/agency so I'd rather not say which bordello or which girl in the public forum, and it was great. This was a girl with whom I had some chemistry and on the home visit it got even better.

As for covered GFE-quite possible IMO. I find that the GFE has much more to do with how you relate to the girl than whether or not she uses a condom for the bj. I guess it comes down to her comfort. If she is more comfortable using the condom she will relax more and open up. This is what I look for in a GFE-the girl opening up a bit. I find that very sexy.

[QUOTE=Hedehoy]
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She offereed me 69, than some intercourse.
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[/QUOTE]
No piercing any more ???

[QUOTE=Charlie 123]
I am looking for a high-class place with the best facilities, cost no object. Which of the Berlin establishments offers the best ambience and facilities?
Artemis? La Folie? A N Other?

Thx

Charlie[/QUOTE]

If cost is really no object the Bel Ami is your place.

[url]http://www.bellamour.de/nightclub/nightclub.htm[/url]

it is where the rich and famous go.

[QUOTE=Kurre]

I have tried Liberty and regarding the looks of the girls, on a good day it is in par with KD. Slightly cheaper, but no complimentary shower, though. .[/QUOTE]

I think you just have to ask for a shower if it is not offered. I am always offered a shower when I go to Liberty so I know it is no problem.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I have never used Eroticacademia as the price always struck me as just to steep. I think that they even charge quite high for in call. Too bad as they do appear to have some lovely girls.

I also once arranged a private outcall, sidestepping the bordello/agency so I'd rather not say which bordello or which girl in the public forum, and it was great. This was a girl with whom I had some chemistry and on the home visit it got even better.

As for covered GFE-quite possible IMO. I find that the GFE has much more to do with how you relate to the girl than whether or not she uses a condom for the bj. I guess it comes down to her comfort. If she is more comfortable using the condom she will relax more and open up. This is what I look for in a GFE-the girl opening up a bit. I find that very sexy.[/QUOTE]Do you have a link to the Eroticacademia website?

I´m going to Berlin in the end of february and I´m planning to visit Artemis but I'm also interested in having an escort girl coming to my hotel.

Which escort-agency can you recommend? I just want a high-class, beautiful girl in a sexy outfit coming to my room for normal sex, for an hour or two.

Price does not really matter since I don't do this very often but I dont want to spend money on buying the girl dinner etc, I just want to have sex with her.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I think you just have to ask for a shower if it is not offered.[/QUOTE]Thanks, Angus, for the tip! I actually liked the ambience of Liberty, but have been there only twice. No shower was offered, only the washing sink in the room. Otherwise the service was friendly and not at all rushed - especially with Claire, who has a nice teenie-type body. Despite nipple-piercings (which I don't fancy myself) and a limited knowledge of English she really came across as a genuine person.

I'll be sure to ask for the shower the next time.

[QUOTE=Charlie 123]Until this week, I didn't really reckon that the fkk scene was likely to be my cup of tea (too public, etc)

However, this week I found myself in Zurich with a few hours to kill and ended up in a place called Love Lounge. This seemed a really classy place, with a huge and tastefully furnished bar area and with bedrooms the size and quality of a suite in a very fancy hotel. The girls were fine too, but all clothed. I guess that Love Lounge is the Swiss equivalent of what an FKK club in Germany would be like.

So, as a direct consequence of my positive experience in Switzerland, I am now very keen to try out one of the FKK places in Berlin when I return at the end of the month. I have read extensively the reports on this forum. Everybody raves about Artemis, but the pics on their website seem to suggest a 'shabby-chic' that doesn't really appeal to me - I would prefer the sort of modern and fully equipped gaff like the one in Zurich (wet rooms and whirlpool baths in every room)

My question to you is:

I am looking for a high-class place with the best facilities, cost no object. Which of the Berlin establishments offers the best ambience and facilities?
Artemis? La Folie? A N Other?

Charlie[/QUOTE]You're looking for the same thing as me! So I will share some experiences. First of all, an FKK means big public room with lots of half naked or lingerie/swimsuit clad girls wondering around and guys in bathrobe or towel. The rooms are very basic. Probably all sauna/whirlpool installations are public. I don't know Love Lounge, but I've been in some Swiss places in Geneva and I think the luxury places there will run you at least 600EUR by the time you get in the room, and that is 3 times the price you will pay for a top place in Berlin.

So having said all that, Artemis has high quality girls, in terms of looks and service. Unlike a Swiss place where the girls only probably take 2 clients/night, the top girls at Artemis are probably doing 10/day,maybe more.

I was in LaFolie in September and I found it horrible!! Small, crowded, many OK looking Eastern girls from Bulgaria I think (the best there would have been a bit below average at Artemis). I'm used to Eastern girls, but these just made me feel like they were extremely poor. I didn't like the overall vibe, plus the average client was about 10 years older than the average Artemis clients (La Folie average is probably 45-55, Artemis average probably 35-45), no problem there, but it changes the atmosphere. I didn't see the rooms.

As Angus pointed out there is Bel Ami, which I haven't tried yet. But after having called them it seems that it has a bar scene and something like 20 girls or more. If you read quite a bit farther down in the forum, you'll find my report on Villa Rascona. it is really plush and would definitely equal some Swiss places.

Other places I tried that I haven't written about yet are Lady Nina ([url]www.ladynina.eu[/url]) which I found when walking down the street in Charlottenburg one night. It was in a posh area and there was just a sign saying "Lady Nina' on the street and I figured it must be what I thought it was, and I had never heard of it, so if it was in this area (right off of Savignyplatz) in that kind of building, I should check it out. On the good side, if you look at the website, you will see the 5-Star hotel type of decor that you describe. Also, when I was there around in midnight on a Wednesday or thursday, there was only one other client in there. On the bad side, (prices are approximate) you'll pay 20-30EUR for your first drink, then the girls are just 4-7 /10. If you want to take one to the room you have to buy her a small bottle of sekt (30 or 60eur) then pay her for the room. The whole thing ran me about 200EUR for what was probably the worst looking girl I ever paid and really mediocre performance.

Normally I would have just left after my drink, but they really know how to sell in there. I think there were about 10 girls, none of them good looking, but it's kind of dark, so if you want to see them, you have to walk over into the parlor and sit with them. When i sat at a table there were 4 girls there so we talked a bit (like Villa Rascona, they are very good talkers) and then lady Nina herself showed up and said, you have too many girls, come to the bar with me. And proceeded to set me up roll me up and bundle me off to a room with the least offensive suspect in there (i.e. she was a good seller).

The room was deluxe and I won't say anymore :-) I hope they have better girls on the weekends, but as it was I can't recommend it. Villa Rascona is probably what you're looking for if you're looking for the discreet Swiss style. Anyway, so far I don't understand these really deluxe German Villa style brothel houses. They have 5 star quality facilities, nice bars and so on, the girls are at a much higher social level than in the "transactional" places, but in Club Nina at least they are not so good looking. And Villa Rascona has some types I would never be interested in , but I suppose some 60yo guy might want just that. Maybe some guys prefer the exclusive atmosphere and the rest is secondary? Or maybe the idea is fantasy, either you go there because you want to do it in exclusive surroundings or because you've never done it any other way (e.g. it's a place like home)?

I will check out Bel Ami soon, but I am expecting a Spanish style nightclub with a nice bar scene plus beautiful girls who want 200EUR/hour + 50-100EUR extra for the room.

IMPORTANT point: these high end places are open until 5 or 6AM whereas most of the other places listed here (kamila dee, liberty, etc) close at 22 or 23h, and that is usually when i am just planning to go out.

I went to Kamila Dee once and it was just closing, and there was only one girl available, so I can't talk about that, but I went to Liberty's twice and both times the girl was an 8/10 for performance, maybe one was even 9/10. Looks wise they are less than I like, but those girls are very motivated!

To summarize, in my experience, Liberty's is OK for solid performance for cheap price and Artemis is good for the bar scene even if the 10EUR drinks are pathetic (small and very weak) to the point that it isn't worth it, plus it is too croweded and the girls too heavily used :-) but you can't have everything I guess!

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[QUOTE=Concan]I´m going to Berlin in the end of february and I´m planning to visit Artemis but I'm also interested in having an escort girl coming to my hotel.

Which escort-agency can you recommend? I just want a high-class, beautiful girl in a sexy outfit coming to my room for normal sex, for an hour or two.

Price does not really matter since I don't do this very often but I dont want to spend money on buying the girl dinner etc, I just want to have sex with her.[/QUOTE]

Might I suggest that you read the thread> This has been discussed heavily, and recently too.

If, after having read the thread you still have a specific question, it will (if possible) be happily answered.

Check Reports of Distinction as well. There is useful info and you have to sift a bit less.

[QUOTE=Concan]Do you have a link to the Eroticacademia website?[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.erotikakademie.eu/[/url]

[QUOTE=Hektor T]You're looking for the same thing as me! So I will share some experiences. First of all, an FKK means big public room with lots of half naked or lingerie/swimsuit clad girls wondering around and guys in bathrobe or towel. The rooms are very basic. Probably all sauna/whirlpool installations are public. I don't know Love Lounge, but I've been in some Swiss places in Geneva and I think the luxury places there will run you at least 600EUR by the time you get in the room, and that is 3 times the price you will pay for a top place in Berlin.

So having said all that, Artemis has high quality girls, in terms of looks and service. Unlike a Swiss place where the girls only probably take 2 clients/night, the top girls at Artemis are probably doing 10/day,maybe more.
[/QUOTE]

It would surprise me if Artemis did not have some "VIP" rooms available for the high rollers who don't want to have to wait.

[QUOTE=Concan]I´m going to Berlin in the end of february and I´m planning to visit Artemis but I'm also interested in having an escort girl coming to my hotel.

Which escort-agency can you recommend? I just want a high-class, beautiful girl in a sexy outfit coming to my room for normal sex, for an hour or two.

Price does not really matter since I don't do this very often but I dont want to spend money on buying the girl dinner etc, I just want to have sex with her.[/QUOTE]I haven't found any escort agency in berlin yet that looks reasonable. They are either low end and I think I'll get one i would rather not have. Or 200€+/hour for a girl that you could get for 60 in a club. So my goal has been to find a very nice looking escort for less than 200 hour.

In a lot of looking I found this one:
[url]http://www.diva-escort.de/opt/en/womensDetail/19.htm[/url]

She was 250EUR on another site and 180€/hr here. You probably need to book a day or two in advance. If you get her let us know how it is! If money really doesn't matter you can try target escorts or venus escorts. But the minimums are 600-800€

[QUOTE=Concan]I´m going to Berlin in the end of february and I´m planning to visit Artemis but I'm also interested in having an escort girl coming to my hotel.

Which escort-agency can you recommend? I just want a high-class, beautiful girl in a sexy outfit coming to my room for normal sex, for an hour or two.

Price does not really matter since I don't do this very often but I dont want to spend money on buying the girl dinner etc, I just want to have sex with her.[/QUOTE]
The outcall scene is largely unexplored here because there are so many other formats in this city and they are a) more reasonably priced, b) offer better selections, c) are safer, d) you have a way of registering a complaint if you have an issue.

If you want outcall, my suggestion is to visit Montreal. It has a very active scene and French Canadian girls are among the best in the world, IMHO. I have had multiple extended sessions there with my favorites.

No, I don't find French Canadian accents appealing. Entertaining, yes but appealing, no. French as spoken on the Continent, is much more pleasing to the ears.

Hektor T,

Thanx for your extensive reply

I am going to give Artemis a shot next week, and I'll see how I get on.

Cheers

Charlie

[QUOTE=Bobo.fr]No piercing any more ???[/QUOTE]No bobo, but one in the belly as far as I remember.

Hi dear,

Thanks for all of you helping me kake my stay in berlin perfect. I was asking on a escort in berlin and I got some very godd recomendations, and some warnings better to spend my mony on a club. And I think most of these hints where right. In a club you spend 60-80 for a nice experiance and you pay abote 150 to 200 for the same in the escort. So it is easy to calculate. But this is only right if you don't know paris.

I reay abote paris in a german online forum www freiclub dot com, she is listet as paris. She lives in berlin, and it was very easy to get in contact and arrange the dinner. We aggred on 3-4 h, and she sat that she is not looking on the watch if we go along good, then lets see.

So we decidet to meet at 8 in the hotel. She was there at 08. 01 and it was a blone engel arriving in the hotel lobby.

To make a long (and erotic) story short. Paris is a perfect illusion of GFE in Berlin. She if very funny and open to all fantasies you can have (she has very few things she dos not do) we hab a phantastic night, she extendet the agreed 3-4 houres and in the end I was very very happy with this decition, and it was also a very good price relation.

For all the things and the time very resnebel. If you look into my other reports you will se wath was my spending limit, and I don't exceed.

So if you are in berlin, get in contact, you will realy love this qute nice girl.

I did not find a profile in the web, expect the one in the www freiclub dot com.

Thanks for all the help here in the forum.

Will

[QUOTE=Hedehoy]No bobo, but one in the belly as far as I remember.[/QUOTE]
Hedehoy, I meant the one that closed .... her clit !!!

Hello Angus,

I see new ladies (Christina&Alice) working for KD , but I'm afraid that I can not go to Berlin before some months : would you mind "sacrifice yourself" in meeting them ? :-)

(This week( [url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/presence-1.htm[/url] ), Christina works everyday and Alice nearly everyday !! I'm afraid that when I will be in Berlin it will not be so easy to meet them !)

[QUOTE=Hektor T]I If money really doesn't matter you can try target escorts or venus escorts. But the minimums are 600-800€[/QUOTE]Checked out there websites, HOLY SHIT! Thanks!

How do I know that I will be able to have sex with them, like immideatey when they enter my hotel room? I dont want to spend money on eating dinner with them etc. and hear them say something like "You have only paid me for company, sex is extra"

Anyone who knows?

[QUOTE=Concan]Checked out there websites, HOLY SHIT! Thanks!

How do I know that I will be able to have sex with them, like immideatey when they enter my hotel room? I dont want to spend money on eating dinner with them etc. and hear them say something like "You have only paid me for company, sex is extra"

Anyone who knows?[/QUOTE]Obviously you can, at those prices. But man, get a grip. As the local experts have said (Jacko, Angus) you can have it all, at far less, at KD, Liberty, Monrouge, or Artemis. Yes you have to get off your hindquarters and go there, but it's much less stress. You have a choice, there's no immediate pressure or stress to perform (on both sides) for all that money etc. If you wanted you can have 3-5 women (or one for hours) for the price of one of these high enders. Anyone who knows the scene will tell you if you're a little patient, the talent at the above is equal to that of the megamoolah services. Try them first. Then if you're still unsatisfied, you can always spend. Artemis WED-SAT a safe bet, the others. Use websites, and phone ahead, but all have really stunning and intelligent staff. Ultimately it is still hit and miss (and the actual chemistry between 2 people is unpredictable) but at least at the bordellos, you can chat a bit to see, up front, if the experience is what you want, if it's "right", and if not, exit gracefully.

[QUOTE=Bobo.fr]Hello Angus,

I see new ladies (Christina&Alice) working for KD , but I'm afraid that I can not go to Berlin before some months : would you mind "sacrifice yourself" in meeting them ? :-)[/QUOTE]This is maybe the next step I was talking about. Angus Magee goes into some kind of inspector. Maybe we could pay him too, or ISG could hire him? xD
Im sorry, it just sounded so fun: "hey, could anyone plese fuck this girl so I know if she's good or not".

I like the idea about a forum where people could discuss good or bad things around this subject, but to send someone to testfuck a *****. It just sounded even too extreme for me, liberal as I am =)

[QUOTE=Concan]Checked out there websites, HOLY SHIT! Thanks!

How do I know that I will be able to have sex with them, like immideatey when they enter my hotel room? I dont want to spend money on eating dinner with them etc. and hear them say something like "You have only paid me for company, sex is extra"

Anyone who knows?[/QUOTE]

I also had a look at these sites. My feeling is also that you can have a good time for less. My sense was that these types of escort services are more like introduction services for rich guys and women who perhaps are looking for a sugar daddy. I could be wrong. But I would be a bit careful about shelling out that much cash and not really knowing just what is being paid for.

Just my opinion.

[QUOTE=Kid Icarus]This is maybe the next step I was talking about. Angus Magee goes into some kind of inspector. Maybe we could pay him too, or ISG could hire him? xD
Im sorry, it just sounded so fun: "hey, could anyone plese fuck this girl so I know if she's good or not".

I like the idea about a forum where people could discuss good or bad things around this subject, but to send someone to testfuck a *****. It just sounded even too extreme for me, liberal as I am =)[/QUOTE]


If anyone wants to pay me to go fuck any lady here in Berlin and then write a report I am ready, willing and able! My paypal account is ready to go.

I'll even pay my own U-bahn fare to the establishment in question.

[QUOTE=Kid Icarus]
....
but to send someone to testfuck a *****. It just sounded even too extreme for me, liberal as I am =)[/QUOTE]
If only I live and work in Berlin ... !!
(I propose Angus just because he seems to be a KD's regular client; so I just let him notice that there are new ladies in KD).

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]If anyone wants to pay me to go fuck any lady here in Berlin and then write a report I am ready, willing and able! My paypal account is ready to go.

I'll even pay my own U-bahn fare to the establishment in question.[/QUOTE]Hey Angus,
I just knew that you'd be up for this deal. But, hold out for reportable expenses! Travel, refreshments along the way, HIV testing ( :-0), consulting fee. If they want the info let them pay for it. I'm willing to be your agent for this and negotiate the fees. LOL

Man, I'm leaving for Berlin in a week and Kamilla's got two new girls?

Can't wait to check that place out!

[QUOTE=Bobo.fr]If only I live and work in Berlin ... !!
(I propose Angus just because he seems to be a KD's regular client; so I just let him notice that there are new ladies in KD).[/QUOTE]


And I appreciate that you think of me and let me know. Unfortunately Ol'Angus' pooning habits are changing these days. Rather than a new lady each week I am getting into visiting the same couple of ladies repeatedly. My version of settling down I guess.

Though I have to say that a new girl, Lena at Royal is tempting me badly...

[url]http://www.royalgirl.de/models/php/over.php?name=lena[/url]

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]And I appreciate that you think of me and let me know. Unfortunately Ol'Angus' pooning habits are changing these days. Rather than a new lady each week I am getting into visiting the same couple of ladies repeatedly. My version of settling down I guess.

Though I have to say that a new girl, Lena at Royal is tempting me badly...

[url]http://www.royalgirl.de/models/php/over.php?name=lena[/url]

AM[/QUOTE]
Next will come the house in the suburbs, the white picket fence and the minivan with the multiple child car seats (Natch! With all those women in the rotation...)

I can just picture this! :)

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I also had a look at these sites. My feeling is also that you can have a good time for less. My sense was that these types of escort services are more like introduction services for rich guys and women who perhaps are looking for a sugar daddy. I could be wrong. But I would be a bit careful about shelling out that much cash and not really knowing just what is being paid for. Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]Venus Escort is probably about the top escort agency in Europe. You can read reviews of the escorts on any website that talks about escorts in Germany. For that price you get sex including in the price a lot of things you have to pay extra for at the lower priced places.

Some people like driving a Mercedes and some people would never pay so much for a car. Same with escorts.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I also had a look at these sites. My feeling is also that you can have a good time for less. My sense was that these types of escort services are more like introduction services for rich guys and women who perhaps are looking for a sugar daddy. I could be wrong. But I would be a bit careful about shelling out that much cash and not really knowing just what is being paid for. Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]Venus Escort is probably about the top escort agency in Europe. You can read reviews of the escorts on any website that talks about escorts in Germany. For that price you get sex including in the price a lot of things you have to pay extra for at the lower priced places.

Some people like driving a Mercedes and some people would never pay so much for a car. Same with escorts. I saw one girl on the Venus website whose price started at 2000EUR. But if you just want a beautiful girl who does lots of stuff, for the same price you can get a girl for a whole night from a Czech or Ukraine agency and if you can find a Russian girl you trust you can get her for more than a week for that.

Hi all,

I'm visiting Berlin soon and am (obviously!) looking for some fun.

Been looking around and am currently planning on visiting Kamilla-Dee or Ginas Tango Rosa. Any tips or advice on other places to go?

Thanks in advance,

Matt

[QUOTE=Matt Al]Hi all,

I'm visiting Berlin soon and am (obviously!) looking for some fun.

Been looking around and am currently planning on visiting Kamilla-Dee or Ginas Tango Rosa. Any tips or advice on other places to go?

Thanks in advance,

Matt[/QUOTE]

I suggest reading the thread, Reports of Distinction,

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2067[/url]

And my Berlin guide to Clubs, Brothels etc.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=776339&postcount=48[/url]

Then if you have any more specific questions feel free to ask away.

And please do not forget (as many do I fear) to post a report of your experiences. Giving back to the forum for what you have received.

AM

PS. Oh, you can not really go wrong with KD (IMO).

Gina's is certainly less expensive. I have not been there for a very long time, years, so I can not really comment. I feel it is one of those places to check out but to leave if none of the girls appeal to you. I do remember that when I went there the service was good. Just from their website though I have never been too impressed with the line up. But as I say, I think it is one of those places just to go to and see in person who is there.

As mentioned a few posts back Lena from Royal has been tempting me in a big way from her pics an the Royal website.

[url]http://www.royalgirl.de/models/php/over.php?name=lena[/url]

Last night with a spare 100 euros and a free evening I made an appointment to try out this slender beauty.

As was mentioned recently, Royal is a very nice establishment. It is, I would have to say, very much on par with Kamilla Dee in terms of the quality of girls and even a bit nice in terms of decor. It is to be found on the second floor (two up from the ground for the N. Americans here) of an old building on Bundesplatz. The rooms are decorated with large, over stuffed arm chairs and sofas and the ceilings are high. Walking in you do feel very much like you have stepped back in time to an era of old Berlin bordellos.

The prices are similar to KD, though Royal does give a break on the longer sessions. Half an hour will cost you 80 euros (same as KD) but the 45 min. session is just 100 euros and the hour session 150. From a pure euro/min. perspective this makes the 45 min. session the best deal. I am guessing that this is to encourage the punters who would normally just go for the half hour to upgrade to the 45 min. All I can say is that it worked on this punter.

I was ushered in by a smoking hot “hausmutti” and waited just a few minutes for Lena to appear. In person I was not at all disappointed in her looks. She is tall (well, a set of high-ish heels helped) very slender with a very nice facial appearance. Her looks sort of reminded me, quite loosely, of Jodi Foster. She wears glasses and this gives her the look of a business woman.

The donation was taken care of, a shower offered and taken, and soon I was lounging on the bed with this beauty. I found her to be sort of shy but a very nice and gentle girl. The bj (covered though bbbj is available-20 euros extra-not sure about cim) was long, with some depth and some nice eye contact. She was receptive to licking though, while getting quite wet, vocally she was more or less silent, just a few gentle moans now and then.

For the main event I choose doggy as I had used up much of the session licking and with the bj so I was sort of aware that time was probably short. Again, well done but with few fireworks on my part or, I am guessing, hers.

So all in all it was a fine session though I am unlikely to repeat as I found the chemistry between us to be a bit lacking. Lena is a nice, cooperative girl with a very beautiful body for those who like tall, slender, small breasted figures.

Kd is one of the places I frequently come back to, although every time I am in Berlin I swear I'll try something new.

It was Sunday night and the place was hopping, maybe in reaction (that's what I heard) to the pretty quiet January at KD. Was it the punters remorse of Christmas spending or the onset of a market depression, who knows, but girls weren't happy with how the year had started. Anyway. With clients crowding the place. Between choosing the girl, finding the room and shuttling to the shower it came quite the show where run-ins with other clients were scarcely avoided. A bit embarassing.

Only five girls were available, among them Lucy, who I had admired at the website, but who just didn't seem the right choice at the moment. There was something mischievious and rebellious in Lunas eyes that made me go with her.

Luna is a tiny, teeny-type girl with dark hair. She speaks very good english. I opted for a 30-minute session. We started off with massage, which was very good. When I complimented her, she told that she did do tantra sessions, but half-an-hour was not really enough for that. So, I asked for an upgrade. Was that a mistake?

Luna is a very chatty girl, very open about her life and I enjoyed that. The massage ended up being a pretty lame version of a normal brothel massage, which doesn't arouse you nor relax you. The tantra elements did come into the play at the end of the session and things got a little better. The massage ended with a cowgirl ride, which did it for me.

To sum it up: nice girl, smoking little body, nice eyes, good conversation, but there was nothing in the tantra that I haven't gotten from Laura or Marianna during a 30-minute session. She is young and a little inexperienced, eager to please, but likes to be in charge. No kissing, not even on the body.

For now, I would not repeat the 60-minute session, but would maybe go for a shorter one, if my number one choices weren't available.

[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]

Made a visit to Longma II at the Krausnickstrasse, off the Oranienburgstrasse and got a 60 min Tantra massage by a Thai girl who called herself Bo-anna or something similar.

She's somewhere in her 30's, very nice tight body, small breasts but soft and nice nipples.

The place is clean and looks nice. I could shower in advance and afterwards.
She gave me a long and good massage, nice and deep, with some full-body rubbing, during which it was especially great to feel her massage my butt with her breasts. But I thought she waited rather long before turning me on my back. Then there was more body-to-body, which was very nice. I was allowed to touch her but not her pussy. She slid all over me, then asked me if I wanted my dick massaged too - no problem, then took it and rubbed it against her breasts and body. She then turned around and gave me full sight at her tight ass and shaven pussy - very beautiful, while I was stroking her ass!

Finally she turned back and used two hands to make me come very nicely.

All in all a good experience, though I would have liked the massage to become erotic at an earlier point during the hour.

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Maybe for some interest about [url]www.monrouge.de[/url]

I wrote:

Hi, I will visit Berlin 2-5th april and wounder if Bella is working this date. I have heard from others that your club is very good and im thinking to visit Bella and maybe Nicky and Adriana too. But what i heard from others that have visit your club recently that Bella has not been working for a long time.

1. Does Bella still work at Monrouge?
2. How much euro for 1 hour hotel visit?
3. I heard that there is a special price (€100/hour) if you book and visit the club before 16.00 monday-friday?

I am looking forward to make a visit in April =)
Best Regards, xxxx xxxx

Reply:

Hi, thanks alot for your compliment about the club is good. In the moment Bella is on holiday but she is coming back soon. She still work here. Adriana and Nicky they are also available. The escort price for 1 hour is 200 euro + taxi money but when you come to us 1 hour is 130 euro, 45 min 100 euro and 30 min 70 euro. And when you come to us monday to friday we have day discount from 11hrs to 16hrs for 1 hour 100 euro.

Greetings Monrouge.

I am looking for some nice guys aged 30-45 to go out with in Berlin. As I am living in Berlin I know many places but I am interested in finding new locations to go to: clubs, bars, discos. I am pretty open to anything new. Of course the main focus should be hitting on girls.

As I am particularily interested in Russian girls it would be great if we have a common interest here. I travelled a lot through Eastern Europe in the last couple of years: Ukraine, Latvia, Estonia, Russia.

I speak native German, English, some French and some Russian.

So if you’d like to hang out with me, please PM me.

[QUOTE=Kid Icarus]Maybe for some interest about [url]www.monrouge.de[/url]

I wrote:

Hi, I will visit Berlin 2-5th april and wounder if Bella is working this date. I have heard from others that your club is very good and im thinking to visit Bella and maybe Nicky and Adriana too. But what i heard from others that have visit your club recently that Bella has not been working for a long time.
[/QUOTE]

From my experience with MR the girls can take extended timeouts and still be posted on the site. Crissy was gone from Early July until late November yet her picture remained most of that time. I think the best thing to do is to call when you get here to find out if Bella is back in the rotation.

As for your other two choices, Nicky is a wild cat. Adrianna, with whom I have had several sessions, is a bit reserved but cute as a button IMO. With Adrianna I think one needs to do a few sessions for her to thaw out a bit. She is naturally quite a shy girl.

[QUOTE=Kurre]Kd is one of the places I frequently come back to, although every time I am in Berlin I swear I'll try something new.

It was Sunday night and the place was hopping, maybe in reaction (that's what I heard) to the pretty quiet January at KD. Was it the punters remorse of Christmas spending or the onset of a market depression, who knows, but girls weren't happy with how the year had started. Anyway. With clients crowding the place. Between choosing the girl, finding the room and shuttling to the shower it came quite the show where run-ins with other clients were scarcely avoided. A bit embarassing.

Only five girls were available, among them Lucy, who I had admired at the website, but who just didn't seem the right choice at the moment. There was something mischievious and rebellious in Lunas eyes that made me go with her.

Luna is a tiny, teeny-type girl with dark hair. She speaks very good english. I opted for a 30-minute session. We started off with massage, which was very good. When I complimented her, she told that she did do tantra sessions, but half-an-hour was not really enough for that. So, I asked for an upgrade. Was that a mistake?

Luna is a very chatty girl, very open about her life and I enjoyed that. The massage ended up being a pretty lame version of a normal brothel massage, which doesn't arouse you nor relax you. The tantra elements did come into the play at the end of the session and things got a little better. The massage ended with a cowgirl ride, which did it for me.

To sum it up: nice girl, smoking little body, nice eyes, good conversation, but there was nothing in the tantra that I haven't gotten from Laura or Marianna during a 30-minute session. She is young and a little inexperienced, eager to please, but likes to be in charge. No kissing, not even on the body.

For now, I would not repeat the 60-minute session, but would maybe go for a shorter one, if my number one choices weren't available.

[/QUOTE]


Many thanks for the report on Luna. I have hoped that someone would post about her. And the report reads pretty much as I thought it would as Luna is billed as a friend of Klio. As such they sound like they provide quite a similar service. Perhaps, and I may be reading things in here, a wee bit frustrating. I am curious as to when you say:

[QUOTE=Kurre] No kissing, not even on the body [/QUOTE]

do you mean that she does not allow any kisses on her body? or that she does not kiss your body?

If the former I personally would be severely disappointed and find that lacking in a bordello visit. Too restrictive.

As far as Tantra goes, I find that in bordellos it is a bit of a buzz word and has really no meaning beyond a sensitive massage that can be more frustrating than anything else. I think that sometimes the girls take a short Tantra massage course and then ad it to their bag of tricks but it really has not much meaning. A real Tantric massage will include breathing and other techniques that heighten the energy within the body while delaying, and even forgoing the release. They can be an amazing experience but are best experienced in a Tantric studio where you will not receive "full service" i.e. penetration.

Here is a link to a good Tantra lounge.

[url]http://www.tantra-massagen-berlin.de/index.html[/url]

AM

Was in Berllin last year but did not sample anything. What is the street walker scene in Berlin in particular and Germany these days. Is the Turkish era over? I hope I did not sound silly.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]do you mean that she does not allow any kisses on her body? or that she does not kiss your body?

AM[/QUOTE]I meant, Angus, that she did not kiss me expect light pecking on the face and lips. She did allow her body to be kissed, but it felt kind of weird, since she didn't do it in return. I didn't really feel like asking her for it...

As far as tantra goes, I have read about it and was looking forward to a real tantra massage, but I guess I'll do as you suggested and visit a place specializing in tantra.

It is funny, that Luna was a very talkative and open girl, but then again, physically a bit inhibited. But were are all different and - different strokes for different folks - somebody will find that combination attractive.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I suggest reading the thread, Reports of Distinction,

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2067[/url]

And my Berlin guide to Clubs, Brothels etc.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=776339&postcount=48[/url]

Then if you have any more specific questions feel free to ask away.

And please do not forget (as many do I fear) to post a report of your experiences. Giving back to the forum for what you have received.

AM

PS. Oh, you can not really go wrong with KD (IMO).

Gina's is certainly less expensive. I have not been there for a very long time, years, so I can not really comment. I feel it is one of those places to check out but to leave if none of the girls appeal to you. I do remember that when I went there the service was good. Just from their website though I have never been too impressed with the line up. But as I say, I think it is one of those places just to go to and see in person who is there.[/QUOTE]I am one who read but did not post much until recent. I was in Berlin in 2007 and 2008. Activities:

Avoided the streets on general advice of the boards.

Van Kampen: Lots of beauty, suck, fuck, and that's it. The girls otherwise pretty much lay there and let you touch them a little. I'm done here.

KD: Went there once, great time. Then explored around a bit and wish I had returned.

Longma massage: did whirlpool and tantra. Great time and a nice break from condom sex. All massage/HJ.

La Folia: I hated the environment but liked the girl. She was only a 5 but fun in other ways. Would not repeat.

Next trip: plan for more KD (anyone had Sam--pics look great), and try Tiffany's and Liberty.

Question for the experts: if you could go anywhere in Germany, where do you get the most bang for the buck? Berlin is fun but expensive.

[QUOTE=Black Shirt]Was in Berllin last year but did not sample anything. What is the street walker scene in Berlin in particular and Germany these days. Is the Turkish era over? I hope I did not sound silly.

Thanks[/QUOTE]


Hi,

I am not at all sure what you mean by the Turkish era? so can not say if it is over or not.

I am not sure about the rest of Germany but in Berlin I generally say to forget about the street scene. For the same money you can have a good time in a safe comfortable environment.

That being said, if you are after that certain excitement that the street offers you can visit the Kurfürstenstr.-Bülowstr. strip and you will find plenty of drug addicted & slightly desperate EE girls. I can not help much with any details beyond this as it does not really interest me.

If you do go, be careful, it is not the nicest area of town.

[QUOTE=Marwar58]I am one who read but did not post much until recent. I was in Berlin in 2007 and 2008. Activities:

Avoided the streets on general advice of the boards.

Van Kampen: Lots of beauty, suck, fuck, and that's it. The girls otherwise pretty much lay there and let you touch them a little. I'm done here.

KD: Went there once, great time. Then explored around a bit and wish I had returned.

Longma massage: did whirlpool and tantra. Great time and a nice break from condom sex. All massage/HJ.

La Folia: I hated the environment but liked the girl. She was only a 5 but fun in other ways. Would not repeat.

Next trip: plan for more KD (anyone had Sam--pics look great), and try Tiffany's and Liberty.

Question for the experts: if you could go anywhere in Germany, where do you get the most bang for the buck? Berlin is fun but expensive.[/QUOTE]

Sorry, I don't have a whole lot of experience with the rest of Germany so I can not really compare first hand on your question. But I can say that my impression is that Berlin is not that much more expensive that other locations in Germany.

It is true that in other centers (Hamburg? Frankfurt?) you will find active RLDs and certainly there you can find some cheap sex. But you will also find a higher degree of rip-offs and up sells.

And if you look around, if you have the time & inclination, you will find here so nice bargains. You just have to do some sifting and shopping.

I find that Liberty is one of the best places when you consider price as well as the quality of the girls.

And as you mention, VK is just not worth it.

The cheaper places in Neuköln are places where you can often find a nice girl for less, but the surroundings will be not always so nice. A good example is Mac:

[url]http://www.erotische-modelle.de/[/url]

Some nice girls here and you can half 1/2 hour, sex & bbbjcim for 60 euros. But the place is quite dingy and dirty.

These days I like to pay a bit more and have a nice clean place to roll around.

Sam-no personal experience but I did recently read a positive report on one of the German forums.

artemis – my first visit. tuesday 3rd and wednesday 4th feb 2009

ok – you can add my name to the list of converts!

i arrived on tuesday evening at about 9 in the evening. having waded exhaustively through the fkk section on this forum, i was a little apprehensive and not entirely sure at first that the fkk style would appeal to me (privacy concerns etc).

this week was ‘messe-time’ in berlin, and standing in the entrance foyer it was clear that the place was packed. from the foyer there are a couple of stairs up to a locker area where one keeps one’s valuables, and whilst queuing to pay my entrance fee i could see a group of half-naked guys and gals conducting their financial settle-ups. i was hoping that the receptionist would help me out with some information about club rules and procedures, but she was too busy with incoming clientele to assist and i was left to my own devices to work it out for myself. 80 euros got me a bathrobe and a locker key.

i put my money and passport in the small locker for valuables and then went into the adjacent changing room where i changed and deposited my clothes in another locker with the same key number. i had a quick shower and headed into the club for a snoop about.

from browsing the web, i had a number of pre-conceived ideas about the club, some of which were accurate and some not. the first area that i visited was the main lounge, which was considerably larger than i had imagined and rather more plush. there are sofas and chaises longues rep001tered around the periphery of the room and a central oval bar that seats about 20 persons. the room was heaving with people – perhaps 50 guys in regulation white robes and 30 or more naked girls, some of them sitting at the bar chatting to punters or each other and some splayed out on the sofas. my immediate impression was that there were a very large number of simply stunning lasses, mostly thin with good figures and many with (exaggeratedly) large boobs. a very favourable start!

at the back of this room is a small restaurant – no interest here.

i went back to the central spiral staircase and descended to the lower floor. there is a large ‘wellness’ area with a pool, saunas, massage areas and a smaller, quieter (non-smoking) bar. this area seemed to be mainly the preserve of the fellas, although one or two of the girls would strut in from time to time in search of custom. also on the ground floor, and of more interest to me, is the kino. this is a small room with four sofas facing a 6 foot screen and a series of curtained shagging-booths adjacent. when i walked in there the first time there was a guy in his late 50’s/early 60’s splayed out on the front row being given a blow-job by a polynesian hottie. i had hoped that the booths incorporated porno screens as well, but they don’t unfortunately.

there is a fitness room as well on the lower floor, but that was always empty whenever i popped in. i had read online that there is a second kino somewhere on the premises, but i never discovered it.

i rushed about a bit on my preliminary inspection tour, conspicuously avoiding any eye contact with the girls lest i become involved in any pick-up preliminaries before i had had a chance to survey the full cast. feeling somewhat more comfortable about the whole business, i went back to the main lounge to see what choices awaited me.

i sat at the bar and ordered a coke, and was immediately approached by two ee dollies offering a threesome. i declined. for the next 20 minutes or so i was broadly left alone to sit and survey the scene. there appeared to be a very broad diversity of nationalities amongst the girls, with a large contingent of italians in particular. no doubt they were in town especially for the messe. the quality of the totty around the room ranged from ‘definitely do-able’ to ‘porn-star stunners’. i wonder if the quality is always this high or whether it is a consequence of the messe. the light is a bit dim in the lounge, which made it a bit difficult to see the faces of the girls from more than a few feet away. there were a few girls who appeared really attractive that i wanted to check out in more detail, but you can’t really stare at them ‘cos they’ll come right over and start chatting if they see you eyeing them up.

i headed down to the kino once more and was set upon by a couple of unsuitable girls the moment i put my head round the door. i quickly ascertained that this is not one of the places in the club where you can hope to spend any time alone. as i started to climb the stairs once more i came upon erica who threw her arms around me and asked me where i was going. she seemed much more my type. . .

#1 – erica

erica is about 25 or so, from st petersburg, with a slim body, pretty elfin face and a medium/large pair of natural breasts. she speaks good english. we went into the kino for a short while, where she cuddled up next to me and started to stroke me under my robe. after a few minutes, a bunch of people wandered into the kino, and not yet feeling ready for a public performance i suggested that we retire to one of the adjacent rooms. we lay down on the bed and she started stroking my cock whilst rubbing her lithe body against me. she then dipped her head towards my pecker and whispered ‘may i? ’ i understood from my research that this was the moment of no-return, where a ‘contractual situation’ would be established and i became committed to her for the customary 60 euros. naturally i nodded my assent. she proceeded to give me a first-class bbbj (i turned down the offer of a condom sharply), wet, slow and sloppy just as i (and every other guy? ) like it. after a while she asked me if i wanted to come in her mouth, and i told her that i wanted to come on her face, which she politely declined. so i agreed to the cim for the standard extra cost of 50e. she continued to administer a most skilled and professional blowjob in an unhurried and delicate manner. all was fine until the moment i came, when some of the gloss disappeared from the experience. as i jizzed in her mouth, she started spluttering and coughing, finally spitting out my come over my bathrobe, me and halfway round the room! she wittered something about ‘salty taste’ and asked me whether i had been eating pineapple or drinking alcohol. i told her that i had drunk a couple of glasses of champagne before setting out, and she proceeded to give me a bit of a lecture on how the body converts alcohol into salt. i wasn’t especially interested in all that shite as you can imagine, and i was a little upset that a very promising blowjob had been tainted at the crucial moment by her spluttering. still, i helped her clean up and then went with her to the locker room to settle up (110 euros)

i would say that on balance erica is a good sp, certainly pretty enough to look at and relatively skilled at her trade (salty cim finishes aside). more experienced mongers might categorise her as a mild shark, she is certainly far from a gfe type. in less exalted company, i might repeat with her, but with so many other exciting opportunities within vision it never occurred to me to give her a second spin.

i procured a replacement robe from reception, showered, and went to recuperate in the main lounge with a cigarette and a cold drink. the place was teeming with people by now, with rather more robes in view and fewer naked bodies. this suited me well for the time being, as i was keen to enjoy my recovery time without approaches. i was feeling perfectly at ease with the whole artemis concept by this time, and spent 20 minutes gazing around the room looking for a suitable next companion. i was huddled in a corner by myself when out of the corner of my eye i saw a blond girl with a full, voluptuous figure sidle up to my sofa and plonk herself down next to me. this was to be salome, the second and best of my experiences on this 2 day visit. . .

#2 – salome

salome heralds from moldavia, has a generous figure without being fat, gorgeous brown skin and a terrific pair of heavy natural tits, offset by an angular but quite pretty face. i would guess that she is about 28. i have written before about chemistry on these pages – it’s 99% of the matter in my opinion. i knew right away that i was going to enjoy this girl. after chatting for ten minutes in german (she speaks no english or french at all) we disappeared upstairs where the majority of the bedrooms are situated. she had made it clear that a very full menu of services was available, so i expected a treat and was not disappointed. salome is a really friendly girl with the perfect attitude to her line of work. everything was totally unrushed, and she gave me a perfect sloppy blowjob, staring into my eyes all the time and drooling her saliva onto my cock whilst she whispered for me to ‘shpritz in meinem schonem gesicht’ (‘come in my pretty face’). needless to say, that’s exactly what i did!

whilst her figure will not be to the taste of those who like the skinny, pert-breasted sort, this is a really terrific girl whom i would heartily recommend. she was a ‘definite repeat’ for me – see later in this report. .

at this point i had to quit artemis for the night, but i was back the next day to sample from the morning shift. i arrived at 1. 00 and the place was deserted by comparison. there were no more than a dozen blokes wandering around, and perhaps 20 or 30 girls sprinkled around the club. wednesday is ‘au-dessous’ day, meaning that the girls were wearing bikinis rather than being totally nude. i felt that there quality of the eye candy had dropped noticeably since the night before. there were 2 or 3 groups of hispanic ladies gathered together in various parts of the lounge, whilst the kino area was being patrolled by philippine/asian girls. the ee girls with their enhanced busts were nowhere to be seen, and out of 30 girls i was struggling to find a single one that i really fancied. i felt somewhat more conspicuous than the previous night, largely i suppose because of the paucity of guys in the place, and i didn’t fancy my chances of being able to hide out long before the vultures started to swarm around me. fortunately, i only needed to rebuff a couple of very pushy orientals before a more promising candidate presented herself. . .

#3 – moldavian girl, name forgotten

this girl was very similar in build and looks to salome, but prettier and with an even fuller bust. i hadn’t much time, so we dispensed with the preliminaries and went straight to the kino booths for a standard 60 euro ‘suck and fuck’. to be honest, i can’t remember too much about the experience, which might lead one to suppose that it wasn’t up to scratch, but my overall memory was that it was just fine and that she was a very pleasant and skilled partner with a friendly demeanour.

it was now 2 pm on wednesday afternoon and i had a meeting to attend, so i signed out and declared my intention to return later in the afternoon (no charge). when i got back at 4 pm the place had got into full swing and there were many more men and girls around. the new arrivees were generally better-looking, and a number of the big-titted superstars that i had noticed the night before had now returned. i was due to fly home that evening, so i didn’t have time to waste. a cursory inspection of the premises established that salome from tuesday evening was nowhere to be seen, so i went on the hunt for an alternative candidate. said candidate quickly materialised in the form of petra from the suburbs of moscow. . . .

#4 – petra

petra is a very pretty girl, with a ‘girl-next-door’ look about her. she has short-cropped light blond hair, a cute round face, slim fair-skinned body and a medium+ bust. she speaks no english. we spoke for 5 or 10 minutes – she promised the earth, but didn’t really deliver. once again, i received a very skilled blowjob administered in a sensitive and unhurried manner, but there just wasn’t that spark that makes all the difference. i agreed to a cim finish, which she reminded me three times would cost an extra 50e. she had originally rejected my request for a cif, but i ended wanking off into her mouth with such ferocity that it ended up all over her face and hair anyway.

after showering again, i took up my customary position at the back of the room to relax with a cigarette and a coke. i knew that i would have to quit for the airport within a couple of hours, so there would only be time for one more spin. i was toying with the idea of a threesome, but i generally prefer to have established a relationship with at least one of the girls beforehand. i had been sitting there only five minutes or so when suddenly a towel flew through the air and landed next to me, followed by a black handbag. i looked up to see the beaming face of my friend salome from the night before. she jumped onto the sofa and threw herself upon me shouting ‘charlie, charlie! ’ and i knew instantly how i would be spending the rest of my afternoon at artemis. i explained that i was exhausted from my recent exploits, and she chastised me for not having waited for her. it transpires that she had only just arrived.

#5 – salome (again)

after snuggling up and chatting for half an hour or so, i felt sufficiently recovered and so we wandered upstairs to the bedrooms. this time was even better than the previous night. first she licked and dribbled at my knob, then we did a little 69, then she popped on a rubber and i fucked her in mish and then doggy-style. then she rolled me on to my back and straddled me, pinning my arms whilst she rode me. she started to pant and get very wet, and then took my cock out of her pussy and started to rub her clit ferociously up and down my shaft whilst gripping my wrists against the bed. after a couple of minutes she started to writhe until she orgasmed and collapsed in a heap on top of me. it may have been a fake, sometimes it’s difficult to tell for sure, but either way it was a first-rate turn on. she lay on top of me for a few minutes sweating and breathing heavily, and then she started to slide down my body smothering me with kisses. she took me in her mouth and slowly deep-throated me, occasionally popping up to dribble a mouthful of saliva onto my knob. finally she lay on her back, with those magnificent tits wobbling about whilst she fingered her pussy and wanked me off into her face. a sensation! this one hour session cost me 170 euro, but was worth double that.

i will definitely have another go with this lovely girl next time i visit. unfortunately, she doesn’t go for girl-on-girl action, otherwise i’d have loved to have a session with her and any friend of her choice. next time i visit artemis, which will be at the end of this month; my priority will be to find a pair of sexy girls who are really into each other. from what i’ve learned to date, that shouldn’t be difficult to achieve.

in conclusion, i loved artemis. if you have a modicum of know-how in such environments, then this is a place where you can have tremendous fun with a string of beautiful and skilled sp’s for the cost of one hour with an escort girl. the germans are so civilised – i love berlin!

charlie

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...for the excellent detailed Artemis report. I hope that you do not mind if I post a link on the Artemis thread in the FKK section as I think it will be seen by more folks there.

Also I am posting to the RoD thread.

AM

I would like to invite all of you to participate in a google map project. Let's make a google map of places we find interesting!

I've started plotting some locations here:
[url]http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=sv&msa=0&msid=100735334378007286437.0004626576cf59f6c8e21&z=12[/url]

For each location, we need (at least) the following info:
1) Website
2) Address
3) Short description

Does the project sound worthwile?

[QUOTE=Charles Browne]Does the project sound worthwile?[/QUOTE]Excellent, ive been waiting for something like this. Good initiative!

Before I have typed in the adress location by location. This give is a nice overview.

The date.. is 2-8 april and the airplanetickets are now payed. 90€ for 2 persons and 2 ways with Ryanair. Maybe some more will follow but right now we are 2.

THURSDAY: we go from Sweden around 19.30 and arrive late, around 21.00. We picked this late plane because we both quit our jobs before that and dont need to take a day off on Thursday, only Friday. We have not picked any hotel yet but a 4 stars would fit us well i guess. We want some good time, not only with the girls. First day, when we arrive that late i guess we go out for a beer or two and just relax in town. Maybe an escort from KD?

FRIDAY: no plans yet, but a dayvisit to Monrouge is tempting. Maybe Artemis too?

SUTERDAY: fotball at Olympia Stadium 15.30. Hertha vs Borussia Dortmund. Maybe Artemis after that, it's close to the arena =)

SUNDAY: our plane goes from Schonefeld 20.30 so best thing to use the day after we check out from the hotel is to spend the day on Artemis.

Thoughts about the plans: if we decide to go to Artemis 2 times. How would you do? On Friday and Sunday so thers a day between or on Saturday after the fotball match? I think that Sunday is definitely, because we go home and check out from the hotel the same day. And, there is a "Wasser Messe" that ends Friday 3 april. Maybe a good day to visit Artemis, because there will be a lot of girls? These industrialized country ("I-lands" in Swedish) problems.. but we want as much out as we can from our trip =)

[QUOTE=Charles Browne]I would like to invite all of you to participate in a google map project. Let's make a google map of places we find interesting!

I've started plotting some locations here:
[url]http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=sv&msa=0&msid=100735334378007286437.0004626576cf59f6c8e21&z=12[/url]

For each location, we need (at least) the following info:
1) Website
2) Address
3) Short description

Does the project sound worthwile?[/QUOTE]

Looks good. I will ad some addresses later in the week when I have some time.

AM

Im such a big fan of big tits, so this is welcome: [url]http://www.monrouge.de/nelly.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Charles Browne]I would like to invite all of you to participate in a google map project. Let's make a google map of places we find interesting!
I've started plotting some locations here:

[url]http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=sv&msa=0&msid=100735334378007286437.0004626576cf59f6c8e21&z=12[/url]
For each location, we need (at least) the following info:
1) Website
2) Address
3) Short description
Does the project sound worthwile?[/QUOTE]I think this would nicely complement/supplement this existing project.

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Dear fellow Swede (I'm from Alingsås, near Gothenburg)

I think you must be miscalculating. If you do leave on Thursday the 2nd, and go back on the 8th, then you will be going home on a Wednesday. Not on a Sunday. Sunday that week is the 5th.

Too bad if you really do leave on the 5th. Otherwise we might have hooked up. I'll be in Berlin from Monday the 6th.

To answer your questions: I would definitely go to Artemis on the Friday and spend a leisurely time there for several hours. If I truly enjoyed it there, then that would remain my haunt for Saturday and Sunday as well. But Kamilla Dee and Monrouge both have fantastic-looking ladies and a reputation for solid quality, so to avoid the sharks I would also try to squeeze in a visit to both places just to have a look at their line-ups. Saturday early afternoon is probably a good time, in both cases.

Is there a Swedish sub-forum here, btw?

Karl

[QUOTE=Kid Icarus]The date.. is 2-8 april and the airplanetickets are now payed. 90€ for 2 persons and 2 ways with Ryanair. Maybe some more will follow but right now we are 2.

THURSDAY: we go from Sweden around 19.30 and arrive late, around 21.00. We picked this late plane because we both quit our jobs before that and dont need to take a day off on Thursday, only Friday. We have not picked any hotel yet but a 4 stars would fit us well i guess. We want some good time, not only with the girls. First day, when we arrive that late i guess we go out for a beer or two and just relax in town. Maybe an escort from KD?

FRIDAY: no plans yet, but a dayvisit to Monrouge is tempting. Maybe Artemis too?

SUTERDAY: fotball at Olympia Stadium 15.30. Hertha vs Borussia Dortmund. Maybe Artemis after that, it's close to the arena =)

SUNDAY: our plane goes from Schonefeld 20.30 so best thing to use the day after we check out from the hotel is to spend the day on Artemis.

Thoughts about the plans: if we decide to go to Artemis 2 times. How would you do? On Friday and Sunday so thers a day between or on Saturday after the fotball match? I think that Sunday is definitely, because we go home and check out from the hotel the same day. And, there is a "Wasser Messe" that ends Friday 3 april. Maybe a good day to visit Artemis, because there will be a lot of girls? These industrialized country ("I-lands" in Swedish) problems.. but we want as much out as we can from our trip =)[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Charles Browne]...
I've started plotting some locations here:
[url]http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=sv&msa=0&msid=100735334378007286437.0004626576cf59f6c8e21&z=12[/url]
...
Does the project sound worthwile?[/QUOTE]
I think this is definitely a very good initiative. My only comments, if I may:
1) It does not seem all that reasonable to post hotel locations there, I think
2) Is it possible to switch from Swedish to English layout? (well, maybe a dumb question)

I think it would also be a good idea to pin this map to the Reports of Ddistinction at some point later ..

Coming from Denmark to Berlin several times a year, I wonder a little bit reading enthusiastic reports concerning KD. Yes, you will find a lot of nice girls on their web-side. And KD is fair and honest enough to tell you: very few girls will kiss, very few will do anal (and when they do they will charge you E 100 extra) and strictly no girl will provide BBBJ and CIM. As for me: I don't like anal, but I like to be spontaneous. That means being allowed to kiss if ever I want to do so. Thats happens rarely, but it happens. Same for BBBJ and CIM, sometimes I like that. And above all: I want to decide by myself.. No missunderstanding, please. Undoubtly every girl in this business has the right to say: No. But as a customer I have this right too. So after three or four disappointing visits to KD I don't go there anymore.

[QUOTE=Charles Browne]Dear fellow Swede (I'm from Alingsås, near Gothenburg)

I think you must be miscalculating. If you do leave on Thursday the 2nd, and go back on the 8th, then you will be going home on a Wednesday. Not on a Sunday. Sunday that week is the 5th.

Too bad if you really do leave on the 5th. Otherwise we might have hooked up. I'll be in Berlin from Monday the 6th.

To answer your questions: I would definitely go to Artemis on the Friday and spend a leisurely time there for several hours. If I truly enjoyed it there, then that would remain my haunt for Saturday and Sunday as well. But Kamilla Dee and Monrouge both have fantastic-looking ladies and a reputation for solid quality, so to avoid the sharks I would also try to squeeze in a visit to both places just to have a look at their line-ups. Saturday early afternoon is probably a good time, in both cases.

Is there a Swedish sub-forum here, btw?

Karl[/QUOTE]Hej du Svenska Viking =)

Yep, Im wrong with the dates. We go 2-5th april only. How long will you stay?
Friday at Artemis it will be i guess. But 3 days in a row, is it possible to get a little bored? =P

Theres a swedish sub forum for our "bad little market" in english here. But no forum in swedish. Maybe our own swedish forum "flashback" is better then if its the language you looking for.

[QUOTE=I Like Birds]I think this is definitely a very good initiative. My only comments, if I may:

1) It does not seem all that reasonable to post hotel locations there, I think.

2) Is it possible to switch from Swedish to English layout? (well, maybe a dumb question)

I think it would also be a good idea to pin this map to the Reports of Ddistinction at some point later.[/QUOTE]Thank you!

1) Quite right - hotels and hostels would only cause clutter. I removed the one I had added, and made a new private map for myself, where I can add such.

2) In the hotlink/address, change "hl=sv" to "hl=en" if you wish the english layout. We should, of course, make that the format we use...

Also, I meant this as a project we collaborate on, so others are welcome to join in the effort. However, I do not have access to PM here, and I need to add anyone who wishes to edit the map. And I can't even write my e-mail addy here. Well. We'll sort it out somehow.

[QUOTE=Severin Carl]Coming from Denmark to Berlin several times a year, I wonder a little bit reading enthusiastic reports concerning KD. Yes, you will find a lot of nice girls on their web-side. And KD is fair and honest enough to tell you: very few girls will kiss, very few will do anal (and when they do they will charge you E 100 extra) and strictly no girl will provide BBBJ and CIM. As for me: I don't like anal, but I like to be spontaneous. That means being allowed to kiss if ever I want to do so. Thats happens rarely, but it happens. Same for BBBJ and CIM, sometimes I like that. And above all: I want to decide by myself.. No missunderstanding, please. Undoubtly every girl in this business has the right to say: No. But as a customer I have this right too. So after three or four disappointing visits to KD I don't go there anymore.[/QUOTE]

1) ANAL :
I don't know about anal but I read on [url]www.kamilla-dee.com[/url] (and click on "Information" on left frame) :

"Only in case you wish anal sex, no matter how long
the whole session lasts your lady will ask for
50.- EUR in addition."


2) CIM :
I've never asked for but I don't think KD offers such a service !

Do they sell Viagra or Cialis over the counter in Berlin? If so, where? I do not wish to order online, on account of having a wife who might wonder about suspicious invoices in the mail.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Unfortunately with Violetta the condom broke at the last minute so old Angus got an unexpected cip (cum in pussy) ooops![/QUOTE]How did you react to this, Angus? It happened to me once, and since I have a wife whom I dearly love, it turned my life to living hell for several years. Nervous at every sign of problems from her or myself. Visiting the doctor to take tests in secret, etc. Horrible experience! Has it happened to you a lot?

This is a question for all fellow mongers: Have any of you ever asked if you could take a picture or two of your lady of choice? And has it ever succeded?

I always forget the ladies too quickly, I feel.

To Bobo fr:

You are right and I was wrong. The last time I went to KD I asked for the prices and the girl told me anal would be 100 E. Anyway, I should have looked on the side before.

Sorry.

[QUOTE=Charles Browne]Do they sell Viagra or Cialis over the counter in Berlin? If so, where? I do not wish to order online, on account of having a wife who might wonder about suspicious invoices in the mail.[/QUOTE]


Not a chance. This is Germany. You can not even buy a simple antibiotic ointment without a doctors prescription.

[QUOTE=Charles Browne]How did you react to this, Angus? It happened to me once, and since I have a wife whom I dearly love, it turned my life to living hell for several years. Nervous at every sign of problems from her or myself. Visiting the doctor to take tests in secret, etc. Horrible experience! Has it happened to you a lot?[/QUOTE]

It has happened a couple of times but this was the first time in many, many years.

To tell the truth I was not really that upset. More than anything else it was somewhat ironic as I had just three days before received the results from a full round of STD tests-all negative.

I think it was much more disturbing to the girl.

I have no wife or partner from whom I am trying to keep my activities a secret. So for me it was just a matter of looking at the situation realistically. Normal fears aside, the chances of actually contracting "the big one" from such an event is very, very small.

It was more of an annoyance at having to then wait three months and have the test again.

Trouble is that when such a thing happens the mind kicks in and then starts offering up all sorts of evidence that you have caught a disease.

I always try to use a slightly bigger size condom and to use lube IF the woman is not totally turned on and wet, which is rarely the case;-)

[QUOTE=Charles Browne]This is a question for all fellow mongers: Have any of you ever asked if you could take a picture or two of your lady of choice? And has it ever succeded?

I always forget the ladies too quickly, I feel.[/QUOTE]

I do not even own a camera myself. I much prefer the imperfection of a poor memory.

I imagine that this may well be a difficult request. Especially if you wanted a face shot. You might try but be prepared to pay for the privilege. I imagine you would also need a fairly good rapport with the lady in question.

[QUOTE=Kid Icarus] But 3 days in a row, is it possible to get a little bored? =P

[/QUOTE]

Yes it is possible to get a little bored. But I doubt that would happen in three days. Maybe a week?

Sorry if this is already posted, but, can someone recommend a good nightclub or bar in Berlin to meet women? I'm not interested in any sex clubs and I am partial to black women.

Remember! Carnival starts in Cologne Feb 19. The easiest way to meet available women in Cologne is simply ride the tram and talk to someone... Its that easy.

Good work Charles.

I found berolina hotel is very close to most brothels and Artemis, so very usefull indeed.

Anyone know if monrogue only open after midnight? I could be mistaken.

[QUOTE=Tuxsmasher]Anyone know if monrogue only open after midnight? I could be mistaken.[/QUOTE]

Mon Rouge hours from the website.

Monday - Friday: from 11:00 to 02:00 Uhr
Saturday :from 12:00 to 00:00 Uhr
Sunday:appointments only (if you call and book a minimum 1 hr. they will call and see if a girl is available to meet you)

And generally in Germany a 24 hr clock is used so that is 11:00 a.m. and 12:00 noon.

M R is the best bordello that is open late IMO.

Since I don't plan far enough in advance to go to places like Kamila Dee that close at 11PM, and since I consider this activity part of nightlife, I always find myself trying new places that aren't listed here.

Charlottenberg S-Bahn area: On the street that runs along the S-Bahn tracks at this station (Krumme strasse? ) there are a lot of strip clubs maybe 5.10 in two blocks. In case you're curious about them, here is a report.

One night I was walking around with nothing to do, so decided to take a look. In the first one, I found a hottie. Then a few months later, when I was back in Berlin I had to go in at least 4 to find the right one again.

I don't know the names of any of them, but all of them charge about 10EUR entry, which should get you a free drink. You can watch the strippers dance, but they are not so hot. Mostly 5-7 on a scale of 10. But the one hottie I did find was 8/10 1m75, blond from East Berlin, speaking just a little English. But she was one of the top 3 I've met in Berlin. She was a real GFE and fucked like a champion. She wanted 80EUR for 30min. I got her number off her and she agreed to come meet me at an after hours club after she got off work at 5AM, but I went home before 5AM that night and sms'd her to come meet me some other night. When I called her she wanted 200EUR for 1 hours escort, which I didn't go for, I just went back to fuck her again for 80EUR and the second time I took her for an hour so she did owo for free (normally it is extra but she was happy I came back! ). In the club, IF you agree to give her a drink (which I did after we went in the room as a sort of tip), it will run you 30EUR. Anyway, when you get out of the s-bahn there will be clubs directly across the street and some more if you walk up the street to the right. Or cross the street and continue down Lewishamstr. The hottie is in one of the three clubs directly across the street, but only 2-3 nights a week.

The other clubs were just shite IMO. Skanky looking sharkey 5s and 6s who wanted 100EUr to go in a room or asked you to buy expensive drinks for them. When I was looking for the hottie I went in three of those places and downed my 10EUR drink within 10min each time to get back to hunting down my babe.

I've also tried some Private Apartments. I put some effort into finding some of these. You have to pick up the Berliner Zeitung (BZ) and you'll find a page or so of sex ads in the back. If you go online, their website links to this page: [url]http://treffpunkte. De/berlin/[/url] (by the way if you find some newspaper online, classified ads are called "Anzeige")

Some of the private apartments offer Polish girls for 50EUR for 30min. The two I tried and walked out of were in the East. One was in Prenzlauerberg and called Maison d'envie. The website looked pretty good, but when I got there only Two cows were available. I saw one 6. 5/10 running around in her lingerie, but she was already taken. I think these small apartments with the low prices are very heavily patronized, so you have to get there early to have any kind of interesting selection.

While the offer is big in Berlin, the quality is not so good in most places.

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[QUOTE=Slowalk]Sorry if this is already posted, but, can someone recommend a good nightclub or bar in Berlin to meet women? I'm not interested in any sex clubs and I am partial to black women.

Remember! Carnival starts in Cologne Feb 19. The easiest way to meet available women in Cologne is simply ride the tram and talk to someone... Its that easy.[/QUOTE]If you read down the forum there are some links to discussions about places, but IMHO none of them are so great. Click my name and read my other posts and you'll see some places I've been to.

[QUOTE=Slowalk]Sorry if this is already posted, but, can someone recommend a good nightclub or bar in Berlin to meet women? I'm not interested in any sex clubs and I am partial to black women.

Remember! Carnival starts in Cologne Feb 19. The easiest way to meet available women in Cologne is simply ride the tram and talk to someone... Its that easy.[/QUOTE]
... but can't find my post.

Yes, Koeln is ground zero for Karneval. The FKK clubs though tend to have thin staffing during that time and some of them are closed.

You answered this question for Cologne, not for Berlin. Overall, I was completely turned off by the nightclub scene in Berlin. It's very "Arkansas-like". One has to be a member of the club and become a "VIP" just to sit down.

I found an African club in Berlin. Its called Surprise and located on Potsdammer Platz. At Surprise; although the F:M ratio was something like 4:1, I was again dissapointed. Surprise charged 15 Euro entrance fee then the club workers bugged me all night to buy champain so I could sit at the tables. I was told that once I bought a 100 Euro bottle, the workers would ask the woman of my choice to sit with me. I found this absurd. The women were simply club goers and did not work at the club. So, its unlikely someone would sit with some fool who just paid 100 Euro for a 5 Euro bottle of Ripple. I figured that if they wouldn't talk to me standing, sitting by myself at a table wasn't going to increase my chances. Maybe if I went more than one time and the women got to know me, maybe they would've warmed to me but, these African women were not anything like they are in Africa. These women are flat out stuck up. The worst part is that they have been taught the German woman's secrets of having it all their own way. One woman actually told me to go to the other side of the bar because I intimidated her friends. I guess one is expected to look straight at the floor and not make eye contact. Although I did chat many African ladies up there, I had already decided to leave the bar but, on my own terms and time-frame. I found a Congelese taxi driver and asked him where I could find African women. He adamately told me to give up the quest and go to Africa. African women in Germany are spoiled beyond description.

Just to report: After 5p, Kurfursten Strasse at the U-bahn had something like 7 hookers walking the street. Later at 8p, there were and around 15. All white.

[QUOTE=Slowalk]You answered this question for Cologne, not for Berlin. Overall, I was completely turned off by the nightclub scene in Berlin. It's very "Arkansas-like". One has to be a member of the club and sit in VIP just to sit down.

I found an African club in Berlin. Its called Surprise and located on Potsdammer Platz. At Surprise; although the F:M ratio was something like 4:1, I was again dissapointed. Surprise charged 15 Euro entrance fee then the club workers bugged me all night to buy champain so I could sit at the tables. I was told that once I bought a 100 Euro bottle, the workers would ask the woman of my choice to sit with me. I found this absurd. The women were simply club goers and did not work at the club. So, its unlikely someone would sit with some fool who just paid 100 Euro for a 5 Euro bottle of Ripple. I figured that if they wouldn't talk to me standing, sitting by myself at a table wasn't going to increase my chances. Maybe if I went more than one time and the women got to know me, maybe they would've warmed to me but, these African women were not anything like they are in Africa. These women are flat out stuck up. The worst part is that they have been taught the German woman's secrets of having it all their own way. One woman actually told me to go to the other side of the bar because I intimidated her friends. I guess one is expected to look straight at the floor and not make eye contact. Although I did chat many African ladies up there, I had already decided to leave the bar but, on my own terms and time-frame. I found a Congelese taxi driver and asked him where I could find African women. He adamately told me to give up the quest and go to Africa. African women in Germany are spoiled beyond description.

After 5p, Kurfursten Strasse at the U-bahn had something like 7 hookers walking the street. Later at 8p, there were and around 15. All white.[/QUOTE]
This is the earlier post about Berlin and where to make contact with semi-pros and pros:

[post]783851[/post]

I have had another business trip visiting Berlin this week which is unfortunately likely to be my last.

I arrived yesterday afternoon at around lunchtime and immediately headed off to Artemis to see if I could find Ella for one last fling.

Unfortunately she was not there. I spent a while relaxing from my recent work stresses and the flight etc by taking a couple of sessions in the sauna and the pool but was a little annoyed to be continually bugged by a Malaysian lady named "Irish" She didn't seem to understand that I would partake of the goods on offer when I was ready and not before. She even parked herself on the bench outside of the sauna, waiting for me to emerge before pouncing once more and asking when I was going to take her to a room.

The sad thing is that I would have probably taken her up on her offer if she had not been so pushy

In the end I made a small error of judgement, being suckered once more by a pretty face, taking up the offer from Mika from Hamburg.

We went to a room behind the Kino (OK is should have sussed it then! ) where I discovered that had I stuck to my usual standard of talking to the girls about what they did and did not like, I would have discovered before too late that she was not into kissing and didn't really want to allow DATY.

Besides putting this down to experience, I must admit that she did give a tremendous BBBJ and a good fuck, riding me from above whilst on my back massaging and sucking her gorgeous tits.

By this time after a further shower and sauna, it was getting close to the time I had arranged to meet Angus at a central meeting point in the city.

It was really great to meet up with a fellow ISG mongerer and we had a good time over a couple of drinks discussing the Berlin scene.

When Angus decided that it was time for him to get an early night, my decision was whether to go back to Artemis to seek out Ella or to go to La Folie to see if I could find Bianca one more time.

I decided to favour La Folie, but did not find Bianca.

I did however arrive on a night that was busier than any I had seen before with 22 girls and about half that number of guys.

I relaxed with my first drink and watched the porno movie for a while, being attracted by a particularly stunning black haired girl named Sarah She is easily recognisable by her large 'angel wings' tattoos on her back She eventually took notice of my "come hither" look and joined me.

We talked for a while and when I decided that she was someone I could easily be with, I bought her a piccolo and we spent some more time talking and gently caressing in the lounge.

We then retired to a room where WOW! She proved that she was in fact no angel. She was terrific in a number of positions, loved to have her pussy licked and eventually reached what I think was a genuine climax as I rode her from behind, watching those beautiful butt cheeks as I thrust into her

After a shower, we went back to the lounge where I bought her another piccolo and we carried on talking about families and stuff while still gently caressing each other. A near perfect GFE in my mind

I am only sorry that my intention to try to get away early from my business dinner tonight to make a return visit to see her has been thwarted.

Lets hope that I am wrong about this being my final business trip to Berlin.

[url]http://www.libertyberlin.de/antonia.html[/url]

[14.02] - She is fantastic! Can't wait to return.

Being a "common guy" who is kind of put off by the "relateve top" status of KD & Royal nearly by definition [except of one very special girl at KD] i need to say that Liberty has become my stepping stone in the meanwhile.

I guess I'm not going to tell anything new, as the majority of the readers of this thread have already recognized that that's a place well worth visiting ..

So, just another cofirmation of the virtue

Hi

I am going to be in Berlin next Thursday and Friday and will be attending Artemis in the evening on both days. Anybody wanna meet up on either day?

Grussen.

Charlie

[QUOTE=I Like Birds]Being a "common guy" who is kind of put off by the "relateve top" status of KD & Royal nearly by definition [except of one very special girl at KD] i need to say that Liberty has become my stepping stone in the meanwhile.

I guess I'm not going to tell anything new, as the majority of the readers of this thread have already recognized that that's a place well worth visiting ..

So, just another cofirmation of the virtue[/QUOTE]

In a way I agree with you. while I like KD & Royal I find myself being a much more frequent visitor at Liberty. It is, I find, the sort of place you can visit on a regular basis. KD Is much more a place to go to for the occasional treat.

I am curios about who is this "special girl" you visit at KD. If you care to say.

[QUOTE=A Fox]

By this time after a further shower and sauna, it was getting close to the time I had arranged to meet Angus at a central meeting point in the city.

It was really great to meet up with a fellow ISG mongerer and we had a good time over a couple of drinks discussing the Berlin scene.
[/QUOTE]

Glad you found that elusive GFE you were after. And at La Folie!

It just goes to show you that in this hobby one must follow one's instincts and go where they lead you. Perhaps I should not dismiss L F so quickly and pay another visit. Maybe mid week is a better time to drop in there.

Great meeting you Fox and I hope you make it back to Berlin somehow.

I'll be in Artemis on 6th (Friday) March if somebody wants to meet up.

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Greetings,

I appreciate your interest in advising other members of your impending travel plans, but this section of the Forum has a separate thread titled [b]TRAVEL PLANS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS[/b] specifically for posting these sort of personal announcements so that they don't clutter up the General Discussion threads.

You might also consider using the Forum's Private Message system for exchanging personal travel plans with other Forum Members.

On behalf of your fellow Forum Members, [i]Thank You![/i]

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[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I am curios about who is this "special girl" you visit at KD. If you care to say.[/QUOTE][url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/jenny.htm[/url]

She is the same Jenny who used to work at "Tiffany" until one year ago and to who nobody has matched in my experience ever since I've met her.
I have not visited her at KD yet because I've dicovered she is there just before X-Mas [after she has stopped working at Tiffany's I've lost track of her for all this time]. You might remember, I was asking you about Lucy at Liberty, aka Jessie at KD, when I went to check at KD's page if she has kisses on her list .. That's how I've run over the Jenny's picture.

On both my visits to Berlin since this discovery she was unfortunately out of office, but I hope I'll catch her next time I'm there [hopefully, April]

[QUOTE=I Like Birds][url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/jenny.htm[/url]

She is the same Jenny who used to work at "Tiffany" until one year ago and to who nobody has matched in my experience ever since I've met her.
I have not visited her at KD yet because I've dicovered she is there just before X-Mas [after she has stopped working at Tiffany's I've lost track of her for all this time]. You might remember, I was asking you about Lucy at Liberty, aka Jessie at KD, when I went to check at KD's page if she has kisses on her list .. That's how I've run over the Jenny's picture.

On both my visits to Berlin since this discovery she was unfortunately out of office, but I hope I'll catch her next time I'm there [hopefully, April][/QUOTE]

Many thanks. She was on my list, now with a star next to her name.

[url]http://www.desire61.de/[/url]

This is a new place in Kreuzberg. I have not yet visited but I am fairly certain that it is the same as Timeout, a small bordello that used to be in Templehof, near the airport. At least the web page is the same and at least one of the same girls (Iren) works there.

I always had a good time at the old Timeout and used to visit a slim, slutty Ukrainian girl whose name momentarily escapes me.

The prices are below average and you can get there a half hour session with cim, bbbj for 65 euros. (50 +15). For the 50 euros I believe is included foreplay without a condom.

I have not visited yet at the new location but probably will soon and will post a report.

This is from a little while back and I am just getting around to writing the report. I’ve been kind of busy in my work.

I had read a report (positive) of Jenny on the German forum so I was interested in a visit. However, every time I called she was absent even though she was on the schedule. Finally one evening I had been out for diner with friends and my route home took me more or less right past Liberty. It was 20:10 when I called and I asked for an appointment in half an hour.

Upon arriving I was shown into the waiting room and told that Jenny would be 5 more minutes. After about 15 minutes the Hausmutti stuck her head in the door and informed me that Jenny was delayed and it would be 5 more minutes....

Finally just past 21:00 Jenny appeared. Visually I was not at all disappointed. Jenny is a cute girl of Turkish origin. There are now pictures of her on line and they are full accurate.

[url]http://www.libertyberlin.de/jenny.html[/url]

We found a room, took care of business (60 euros for 1/2 hour-no extras) and I undressed as she went where ever it is the girls go once you pay them the cash.

Again I waited, and waited. I have to say here that so far I noticed that Jenny is not as polished in the service department as I am used to at Liberty. I find that the girls there are usually very good at taking the lead when it comes to customer service. Jenny semed almost flippant about the whole thing. I wondered if this was a signal of a poor session to come.

Finally she returned and I asked if I could take a quick shower. She seemed surprised but then quickly took me to the shower. I am used to, at Liberty, showering alone. Jenny, who was now naked, just followed me in and jumped in the shower with me to help me wash.

What I was beginning to realize is that Jenny really is quite young, her stated age is 19 and I believe this to be completely accurate. Her attitude is more or less that of a teen. And her unpolished behavior does show her age. Some might not like it, and it may change in time, but old Angus was starting to enjoy this girl and relax.

Back in the room, a full half an hour after I had rung the bell downstairs, we were finally on the bed and Jenny then asked if I had the time. A good sign as this meant that the session was just starting after all the delays and preliminaries.

I lay back and Jenny started with a soft hand manipulation of little A who enjoyed it immediately. The lube came out and a pretty good handjob was soon underway. She seemed to enjoy the effect she was having and asked why I had chosen to see her. Not waiting for an answer she then asked if it was because she is a “Teeny girl”.

Well-what can I say but-bingo!

And this was really the theme of the session. This girl knows very well that her “real teeny girl” status is a selling point. And she plays it up to the hilt. She was to refer to the fact that she is a teen girl throughout the session.

I asked her if she like to be licked. She responded by laying back and offering her smooth pussy to my tongue. And yes she like to be licked. Very much. But a word of caution here. Jenny is not content to just lie back and receive a substandard (to her standards) licking. She like to direct the action. And she is very specific as to what she likes. As soon as you move off the button she will tell you and direct you back. All she likes, it seems is direct clitoral stimulation and at a very specific pace.

I licked, and I licked and I licked. After some time she told me that she was about to come. Two more minutes. I wish. I kept going and kept going beginning to feel like a human vibrator. Finally after some 15 minutes, I was aware of the time factor here, I kind of gave up and started to rise. She would have none of this and literally demanded that I continue!
Again I stopped and again I was ordered back to the job. My tongue was starting to hurt. Finally after some 25 minutes the sweet teeny girl came.

Whew!

And what about old Angus you ask? Well I hoped she would take care of me but then she looked at the clock and said, we had better hurry. Just three minutes left. Well 5 by my counting but still, 3 minutes, 5 minutes. Both are hardly time to finish properly.

I guess I am not sure here if I was hustled. I knew I had to extend the session. I thought briefly about taking just another 10 minutes but then I thought, what the hell, and asked if I could extend another half hour. Jenny was okay with this and was soon back after collecting the cash.

Back on the bed I asked for a cbj. This was done well, not great but competent. I guess I could have directed her as she had directed me but I decided that with Jenny what I really wanted was to fuck her long and hard. Now I do not usually like to fuck for that long a time. My sessions I usually spend a good deal of time doing other stuff and then fucking just at the end.

Now I had a full half hour and fucking was the only thing on my agenda.

Without boring you all with a play by play, it was one of the best fucks I have had in a long while. As I mentioned she was very vocal, not with moans but with talking about being fucked and the fact that she is a teeny girl. And she was also into changing positions.
The ending was, as it often is, in doggy with Jenny thrusting back to meet me like a real champ.

By the time we ended it was almost 10:15. The bordello was empty and Jenny saw me to the door completely naked. A nice touch I thought.

So do I recommend Jenny. Yes I do but with some reservations. She is not a “pro” but will soon become one I fear. For me her charm lay in her being so unpolished. And I have a feeling that this will disappear soon.

Her lack of awareness about the time and demanding that she receive her pleasure, well, it worked the first time on me but I would be a bit hesitant in going back unless I was sure that I wanted a full hour session with her. And at least at present I am not sure of this. So I leave it open.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]I licked, and I licked and I licked.[/QUOTE]This seems to be a girl for me!=)

God, I wish I lived in Berlin. Angus, thanks for the great report! [well, as usual].
It looks, by the way, that she is new there .. Or at least they did not have her pictures before. I might be wrong, but I cannot remeber her profile from my recent [thorough] screening of their web page.

[QUOTE=I Like Birds]This seems to be a girl for me!=)

God, I wish I lived in Berlin. Angus, thanks for the great report! [well, as usual].
It looks, by the way, that she is new there .. Or at least they did not have her pictures before. I might be wrong, but I cannot remeber her profile from my recent [thorough] screening of their web page.[/QUOTE]

It is true she was on their roster for some time with no photos which are new in the past week or so.

An I love to lick a girl-especially a teeny girl-but I have to say that I like to have some license to use my own creativity. With Jenny she was a little too demanding and specific about how she like it. I appreciate feedback from the girl but this was more than feedback. To tell the truth, by the end I was sort of bored and wanted it to end.

I think that Jenny would be very good in a dominant roll playing game if you were into that.

So it goes.

Dear fellas,

I just saw a very interesting report on German TV about the scene in Berlin. Among this report they introduced a few brothels, which are well known in this forum: Liberty & Salon Prestige.

Indeed as it was widely speculated both brothels are run by the same owner who happens to be a lady who was in the business herself before (I don't recall her name). It was interesting to see how she runs the brothel and how she even interviews models who apply for a job there. Indeed these two places are very professionally run and count as one the top destinations in the city of Berlin.
Should anyone be interested: The ladies working at Liberty or Salon Prestige earn 50% of what you pay to them for themselves.

There were also reports about some escort girls. One of them happened to be a real stunner and sweet as candy. A 1/2 Thai girl with the name Natascha:

[url]http://www.nataschagirl.cabanova.de/[/url]

She could be the first escort I will try in this town :-))

Finally, I also wanted to report about famous Marie who returned to the rather infamous MAC brothel in Neukölln. Well, she still is skanky as hell, she still offers deep tongue kissing, BBBJ, CIM and full service CIF action. Her sessions are still not at all disappointing. However, unfortunately, she gained weight tremendously. According to herself she had huge problems with alcohol and claims she gained size and weight due to cortisone treatment.

This should only be a warning for those who are considering going back to her but might be turned off. After all, her session is satisfying. Still, I think I better move on and remember her by. And honestly, those memories are great..!!

Cheers,
The AF

[QUOTE=The AF]Dear fellas,

I just saw a very interesting report on German TV about the scene in Berlin. Among this report they introduced a few brothels, which are well known in this forum: Liberty & Salon Prestige.

Indeed as it was widely speculated both brothels are run by the same owner who happens to be a lady who was in the business herself before (I don't recall her name). It was interesting to see how she runs the brothel and how she even interviews models who apply for a job there. Indeed these two places are very professionally run and count as one the top destinations in the city of Berlin.
Should anyone be interested: The ladies working at Liberty or Salon Prestige earn 50% of what you pay to them for themselves.

There were also reports about some escort girls. One of them happened to be a real stunner and sweet as candy. A 1/2 Thai girl with the name Natascha:

[url]http://www.nataschagirl.cabanova.de/[/url]

She could be the first escort I will try in this town :-))

Finally, I also wanted to report about famous Marie who returned to the rather infamous MAC brothel in Neukölln. Well, she still is skanky as hell, she still offers deep tongue kissing, BBBJ, CIM and full service CIF action. Her sessions are still not at all disappointing. However, unfortunately, she gained weight tremendously. According to herself she had huge problems with alcohol and claims she gained size and weight due to cortisone treatment.

This should only be a warning for those who are considering going back to her but might be turned off. After all, her session is satisfying. Still, I think I better move on and remember her by. And honestly, those memories are great..!!

Cheers,
The AF[/QUOTE]

Thanks AF for TOFTT (taking one for the team). Too bad that Marie has gained weight. I for one will pass on a repeat session.

AM

Just to show that I have not completely abandoned the bordello scene I checked out a couple of the seedier establishments this past week.

First off was Desire Erotik.

[url]http://www.desire61.de/[/url]

This place used to be located close to Platz des Luftbrucke on Dudenstr, called Timeout. I used to visit a Ukrainian girl, Lena, there and always had a good time for not too much money.

I think all the girls here come from the Ukraine and they seem to put in some pretty long hours when working.

I really wanted to see Anastasia when I arrived just past 19:00 but was told that only Iren and Sophie were available at that moment. I decided to stay and take a look and decided upon Sophie.

Perhaps this was a bit of a mistake as when I got to the room with her I realized that she was a bit older than I usually like. In any case we got on with it and I was, in the end, more o less happy with the result. Yes Sophie has a few miles on her but she is an enthusiastic performer none the less.

In the end I decided upon an FT (cim) finish and she took little A deep as he released the seed. As I was still some minutes shy of the half hour Sophie cleaned me up and then offered a massage which was decent. One thing with these girls is that they always give you your full time and I appreciate that.

The price, 50 euros + 15 for FT. FO (bbbj no cim) is included in the base price.

The other place I tried out was Rheinstr. 4 in Steglitz. I had been here once before quite some time back when it was called Michelle's. Then it was Candyshop II for a while and now Rheinstr.4.

It is a nice enough place, clean and cozy. I was show 3 girls and chose Gina.

[url]http://www.rheinstrasse4.de/gina.htm[/url]

I regretted the choice a bit when she took her dress off as her breasts, quite big, hung almost to her navel. But no matter as the bj she delivered was pretty good so I just closed my eyes and let her go at it. In the end, again, I opted for FT and she did a very good job of getting me off with just a judicious use of her hand as well as her tongue.

For this I paid 50 euros + 15 for the FT. FO (bbbj no cim) is included in the base price of 50/half hour.

Hi fellows,

I will maka a short trip to Berlin in May. Besides going to Artemis I want to sample the Sex-kinos.

Which in your opinion is the best bet in the City center og nearby ? What I'm looking for is handjob/ blowjob while watching a porn flick, not gooing to a room. I've gone thru the web and the Sex kinos genarally do not have good websites.

[QUOTE=Halljo]Hi fellows,

I will maka a short trip to Berlin in May. Besides going to Artemis I want to sample the Sex-kinos.

Which in your opinion is the best bet in the City center og nearby ? What I'm looking for is handjob/ blowjob while watching a porn flick, not gooing to a room. I've gone thru the web and the Sex kinos genarally do not have good websites.[/QUOTE]

This is not actualy such an easy question to answer without a bit more detail as to your criteria.

If all you are looking for is a bj while you watch a porno then Artemis has that covered very nicely. There you will find two Kinos (one upstairs, one down) where it is, frankly, more difficult not to get a bj. I mean that if you go in there to sit the girls will be relentless in asking you if you want company while there.

But this will cost you the same as a session in a room (60€) and unless you chose wisely will probably be over in 15 mins., 20 mins. max.

If Artemis interests you I would recommend going on a Saturday night and trying to find Ella, a Russian blond (see the Artemis thread for more details on Ella, my last report has some) , Tell her what you want and she will not disappoint. She gives one of the best bjs I have ever had in my life and if you ask her nicely I am sure that she would make it last the full half hour.

If you want to, for what ever reason, experience an actual Sex Kino then I can direct you to my report from last summer about Massage, Kinos & Misc.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=776559#post776559[/url]

There I report on the three that I have visited with links to their websites.

Of the three I have visited I found Elisa's to be the best in terms of cleanliness and general quality of girls.

[url]http://www.sexkino-berlin.de/index.php?page=home[/url]

But the Sex Kino experience, for me, was not always about cleanliness and quality. It was more about sleaze and the thrill of being able to head out at past midnight, go to a Kino, sit down, get a bj and be home a half hour later. Thankfully the thrill wore off and I stay away now from the Kinos.

Thanks Angus, you are the campion.

You basicly described what I was thinking of:

"It was more about sleaze and the thrill of being able to head out at past midnight, go to a Kino, sit down, get a BJ and be home a half hour later".

That's what I want to experince but mine main target is Artemis. I have been twice to Palace and I find this FKK concept brilliant.

If I understand this right you pay 5-10 euros at the front then take a seat in the Kino and will be approched by some lady. If I don't fancy her I can decline and a another one will hopefully show up?

And the price for BJ is around 20-40 euros?

Is it always cbj?

[QUOTE=Halljo]

If I understand this right you pay 5-10 euros at the front then take a seat in the Kino and will be approched by some lady. If I don't fancy her I can decline and a another one will hopefully show up?

And the price for BJ is around 20-40 euros?

Is it always cbj?[/QUOTE]

That's exactly it except the cost should be on the low end of what you quote, i.e. it should cost you no more than 6 euros (and you get a free cola or coffee!!!) entrance and the bj in the cinema should cost no more than 30 euros. Though some ladies try to charge you extra to feel their titties.

And virtually all bjs in the Kinos are cbj. Probably a good thing when you consider the conditions...

Have fun.

Anyone been here?

Know anything about Sunny?

She looks tasty.

Planning to see her at end of month.

I will report.

[QUOTE=Rainmadra]Anyone been here?

Know anything about Sunny?

She looks tasty.

Planning to see her at end of month.

I will report.[/QUOTE]


I used to go to Müller II (not to be confused with Frau Müllers on Hermanplatz) which was the sister Bordello to this place. Müller II has since closed. In any case I always found it to be a clean and well run bordello.

Sorry I have no experience with the particular girl you ask about. This place is a bit out of the way for me.

[url]http://www.desire61.de/anastasia.html[/url]

Sunday evening I made a “Termin” at Desire Erotik to see Anastasia who I had wanted to see a couple of weeks back when I went and ended up seeing Sophi. I am very glad I did.

I showed up just past 18:00 was greeted and Anastasia came out quickly. My first impression was that she was okay. We went to the room where I was offered and I accepted a shower. This were a bit awkward as she is Russian and speaks virtually no German and the same with English. But I could soon see that she is a nice girl and she is quite truthfully 20 years old as stated on the web site. In fact, had they said that she was 18 or 19 this would have been quite believable IMO.

I paid the fee (50 euros incl. kissing & bbbj for half an hour) and lay down with Anastasia starting at first just to kiss. Very nice, soft and a bit shy. Soon she warmed up a bit and off came the bra. Here I have to say I was the session was transformed. This girl has genuine puffy nipples.

Now I find puffy nipples to be enormously exciting and also exceedingly rare and hard to find in a working girl. My personal theory is that puffy nipples can be found usually only on fairly young girls (18,19,20) and once a girl with puffies reaches 21 the tend to disappear. Alexa (Liberty) had a nice pair when I first saw her about a year and a half ago but not anymore.

Anastasia has a really nice pair, small but with a pronounced puffiness that drove me wild. Needless to say, the next 5 mins. was spent suckling and playing with these beauties.

The remaining session was simply very nice. Her bj is good (soft, hand involvement but not excessive) and the fucking was passionate and involved on her part. We finished in doggy and she really excelled in pushing and rotating her hips back on little A as I held still and allowed her to fuck.

Of note is that the website states that she does anal. This is emphatically not true as I asked and was firmly told no. The website is a mistake.

The final 10 minutes were spent cuddling and talking as best we could. In the end I really kind of liked her and found her to be quite sweet.

Will I repeat? Most definitely. At 50 euros I would say that she is quite a bargain.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Of note is that the website states that she does anal. This is emphatically not true as I asked and was firmly told no. The website is a mistake.[/QUOTE]Very nice report, thank you!

Might it not be that she simply had a bit of a problem with anal on that particular day? I've had anal sex with my wife many hundreds of times, yet on some days she simply can't - because of having had spicy food, being sore, having a bit of a stomach issue, etc.

Did you manage to ask her if she never did anal, or sometimes but not that day? You said she had poor language skills, right?

On another note: Which brothels in Berlin have the highest percentage girls who do anal? Monrouge girls rarely do, if I've done my research correctly?

[QUOTE=Angus Magee][url]http://www.desire61.de/anastasia.html[/url]

Sunday evening I made a “Termin” at Desire Erotik to see Anastasia who I had wanted to see a couple of weeks back when I went and ended up seeing Sophi. I am very glad I did.

I showed up just past 18:00 was greeted and Anastasia came out quickly. My first impression was that she was okay. We went to the room where I was offered and I accepted a shower. This were a bit awkward as she is Russian and speaks virtually no German and the same with English. But I could soon see that she is a nice girl and she is quite truthfully 20 years old as stated on the web site. In fact, had they said that she was 18 or 19 this would have been quite believable IMO.

I paid the fee (50 euros incl. kissing & bbbj for half an hour) and lay down with Anastasia starting at first just to kiss. Very nice, soft and a bit shy. Soon she warmed up a bit and off came the bra. Here I have to say I was the session was transformed. This girl has genuine puffy nipples.

Now I find puffy nipples to be enormously exciting and also exceedingly rare and hard to find in a working girl. My personal theory is that puffy nipples can be found usually only on fairly young girls (18,19,20) and once a girl with puffies reaches 21 the tend to disappear. Alexa (Liberty) had a nice pair when I first saw her about a year and a half ago but not anymore.

Anastasia has a really nice pair, small but with a pronounced puffiness that drove me wild. Needless to say, the next 5 mins. was spent suckling and playing with these beauties.

The remaining session was simply very nice. Her bj is good (soft, hand involvement but not excessive) and the fucking was passionate and involved on her part. We finished in doggy and she really excelled in pushing and rotating her hips back on little A as I held still and allowed her to fuck.

Of note is that the website states that she does anal. This is emphatically not true as I asked and was firmly told no. The website is a mistake.

The final 10 minutes were spent cuddling and talking as best we could. In the end I really kind of liked her and found her to be quite sweet.

Will I repeat? Most definitely. At 50 euros I would say that she is quite a bargain.[/QUOTE]

Very interesting report, Angus!

But I would like to know...how do you exactly define "puffy nipples" ? Do you mean kind of "errected nipples" or swollen?

Anyway, Anastasia seems interesting...very appealing body and outfit (I love black stockings) on the pics. According to the website she offers CIM. Can you confirm? Is she also open for CIF in your opinion ??

Cheers,
The AF

[QUOTE=Angus Magee] Soon she warmed up a bit and off came the bra. Here I have to say I was the session was transformed. This girl has genuine puffy nipples.

Now I find puffy nipples to be enormously exciting and also exceedingly rare and hard to find in a working girl. My personal theory is that puffy nipples can be found usually only on fairly young girls (18,19,20) and once a girl with puffies reaches 21 the tend to disappear. Alexa (Liberty) had a nice pair when I first saw her about a year and a half ago but not anymore.

Anastasia has a really nice pair, small but with a pronounced puffiness that drove me wild. Needless to say, the next 5 mins. was spent suckling and playing with these beauties.
[/QUOTE]
Wow, I love them too, find them a real turn on as they are, as you say, a sign of freshness and youth and extremely rare to find in the open market. I'd make a trip to Berlin just to see them as they are one of my fetishes (I've got alot of those). Lucky guy.

[QUOTE=The AF]Very interesting report, Angus!

But I would like to know...how do you exactly define "puffy nipples" ? Do you mean kind of "errected nipples" or swollen?

Anyway, Anastasia seems interesting...very appealing body and outfit (I love black stockings) on the pics. According to the website she offers CIM. Can you confirm? Is she also open for CIF in your opinion ??

Cheers,
The AF[/QUOTE]

Puffy nipples are when the areola around the nipple is slightly puffy and stands out a bit from the breast. If you look at the 6th picture along in Alexa's pics you can sort of see what I mean.

[url]http://www.libertyberlin.de/alexa.htm[/url]

But it is not so clear in that pic.

You could also google Faye Valentine. She is a porn star with one of the best examples of puffies I have seen.

As far as I know Anastasia does cim (15 euros extra-very reasonable) but I am not sure of cof. But I do intend to find out;-)

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Puffy nipples are when the areola around the nipple is slightly puffy and stands out a bit from the breast. If you look at the 6th picture along in Alexa's pics you can sort of see what I mean.

[url]http://www.libertyberlin.de/alexa.htm[/url]

But it is not so clear in that pic.

You could also google Faye Valentine. She is a porn star with one of the best examples of puffies I have seen.[/QUOTE]
Here are some good clear examples of delicious puffies. I can nibble and munch on these all day. Just yummy!

Njoy.

[QUOTE=Iseeu]Here are some good clear examples of delicious puffies. I can nibble and munch on these all day. Just yummy!

Njoy.[/QUOTE]

Thanks Iseeu for the great examples. Pic number one is an especially good representation of the puffy nipple phenomenon. Anastasia's puffies are smaller than in that pic but have a similar amount of puffiness.

yum yum!

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Thanks Iseeu for the great examples. Pic number one is an especially good representation of the puffy nipple phenomenon. Anastasia's puffies are smaller than in that pic but have a similar amount of puffiness.

yum yum![/QUOTE]
Well if you like these, you'll like the 2 additional series of puffies that I posted on the Photo Gallery thread.

Basically I'll go anywhere on a train and I don't really care so... where would you guys recommend? I'm hoping to first try to amaze some 3rd world chicks with my 1st world charm/looks/money/cock but then if that fails just get two hookers.

I'm teh pretty cool guy, eh speak German/English and doesn't afraid of anything.

Hey gang,

I'M going to be in Berlin soon, can anyone recommend some good establishments in Berlin (city area or surrounding). So many threads to look through but Liberty Berlin looks like a nice place.

Any thoughts would be much appreciated.

E.

Lads. Tried, so to speak, to plow virgin fields yesterday with a daytime visit to the "exclusive" (just ask them) Bel Ami private club, near the Olympic Stadium. Called beforehand to get a feel for the scene and was told there were only 4 staff there now but more would arrive after 16:00. Price info impossible to find anywhere on the web including their site. No entrance fee, staff rates are slightly higher but comparable to all private houses-e. G. 45 min for €150, 60 for €200. The difference is you can hang out in their pool, sauna, get some free soft/warm drinks. In theory, not a bad deal. After 20:00, same rates apply but you also have to buy an obligatory €250 bottle of champagne, which surely keeps the waiting ques down.

What actually happened: I arrived at 15:30, was given a quick tour of the attractive mansion, then I was told again there were only 4 staff there now but more would arrive after 16:00, and more still after 20:00 (surprise). None moved my desireometer past 0, so I asked could I wait til 16:00. A phone call were made and then it seemed actually, ah, er, there were no others coming ("there were lots in the morning"). So now 15:45, I asked well, could I at least just wait 15 minutes to see if any turned up, as I had come from far and explained all that on the phone in my fairly good German. The reply: "No, you must choose now, or leave. That is the policy". I explained again the whole project, phone call, S-Bahn, hike over, the visit briefing etc. Had taken well over an hour, and surely they could let me stay 15 minutes? Nein. So I left. The odd thing was, I was the only potential client there. Place was completely empty apart from the 4 horsewomen of the apocalypse. You would think being a little accommodating might have been a shrewd business move.

Bel it is, but Ami, it surely is not. Don't waste your time, or money.

All not lost as Artemis is close by. I licked my wounds and had a roaring time there, as always.

[QUOTE=Ezye101]Hey gang,

I'M going to be in Berlin soon, can anyone recommend some good establishments in Berlin (city area or surrounding). So many threads to look through but Liberty Berlin looks like a nice place.

Any thoughts would be much appreciated.

E.[/QUOTE]Just read the forum. It's why we have it. Prestige, Kamilla-Dee for boutique booty, Artemis if you want to increase the odds of success to 200% and have time. You could even take Twardzik69 with you, but perhaps after he's had his rabies shot. Cause his approach is what gives us all a bad rep. Chill baby.

Hi

I am finally returning to Berlin next week, and had set my eyes on the lovely Bella at Mon Rouge. But tonight I see, to my horror, that she has disappeared from the website. Damn! She was there just a couple of weeks ago, and it would too sad if she has left the city completely.

Does anyone know if she has just switched to another house? I mean, even if Berlin still has a lot (! ) to offer, my visit there suddenly lost at least one attraction if she really is gone.

I hope someone is in the know about her whereabouts!

Thanx

[QUOTE=Angus Magee][url]http://www.tantra-massagen-berlin.de/index.html[/url]

After a little research I think this looks like a good place for a pretty authentic tantra experience.It is a school of Tantra that also offers sessions.

I have not been there (I am more interested in Skank-tra than Tantra) but from my experience in Tantra, this place looks authentic.

And note that it is not cheap.[/QUOTE]Today I was there. It was I new experience for me. If you are searching something which is going deeper than a normally erotic massage you should go to this lovely place. My personally insider tip!

Another tip from me, because I visited this place: [url]http://www.tantra-massagen-berlin.de/Massages_en.html[/url] - long massage sessions from 2 - 4 hours length, nice girls. unfortunately no sex, but very good erotic massage rituals. I prefer to go to a tantra institut as to a *****house.

[QUOTE=Carl The Third]Today I was there. It was I new experience for me. If you are searching something which is going deeper than a normally erotic massage you should go to this lovely place. My personally insider tip![/QUOTE]

Great. I wonder, if it feel s appropriate and it may not, if you could give us a few details of who you saw and what happened.

I am thinking of doing one of their courses next month if I can line up a willing female partner.

AM

[QUOTE=Ravein2]Hi

I am finally returning to Berlin next week, and had set my eyes on the lovely Bella at Mon Rouge. But tonight I see, to my horror, that she has disappeared from the website. Damn! She was there just a couple of weeks ago, and it would too sad if she has left the city completely.

Does anyone know if she has just switched to another house? I mean, even if Berlin still has a lot (! ) to offer, my visit there suddenly lost at least one attraction if she really is gone.

I hope someone is in the know about her whereabouts!

Thanx[/QUOTE]

Sorry, no specific info on the very lovely Bella. But IME Mon Rouge is not so up to date all the time with their website. Sometimes the girls take extended vacations (some months usually) back in the home country and the website is not updated. I understand that Bella has been absent for some time now. Perhaps you should call when you get here and ask. It is a long shot I know but worth a try.

I doubt that she has switched to another house. The girls who work at MR seem to be very loyal to that establishment for some reason. IMO this is a sign of a well run bordello.

My last visits at KD :

1) Sandra ( [url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/sandra.htm[/url] ) : (fortunately) she is not former Sandra who worked at KD around 2 years ago. When I met her, Sandra told me that she only worked at KD for 3 days (I don't know if she worked somewhere else before). Healthy, firm and attractive figure, cute face, beautiful eyes, she does not speak much English. She may kiss but not so deep (at least with me).

2) Gina ( [url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/s...gina-esc-e.htm[/url] ) : I failed to book Gina in November but this time we could organize a private meeting; some kisses but not so many (less than with Sandra) and not so deep, some tattooes.

3) Mercedes ( [url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/s...mercedes-e.htm[/url] ) : tall lady (I think more than 1m76 published on the web site ) very nice BJ (may be DT ? I don't remember !), and balls lickings, no kisses (with me).

4) second meeting with Valentina ( [url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/s...s/valent-e.htm[/url] ) : no doubt any more, she does not kiss (me); gentle and may have orgasms (some ladies prevent themselves from that !) during the meeting.

So, the top was the meeting with Sandra (but far away from meetings with former Romy) : how will she evoluate in this job ?

What's special there? There is a wonderful warm and heartful atmosphere, you must experience self. And the other is the very special Lingam massage (they called it so because it is the tantric name for the male genitals). I got this massage, it's in the intensiv tantra session inkluded (40 minutes or so alone for the genital massage, I wasn't able to check the time). Wow! I didn't got such an intensiv penis massage ever before. Not only up and down. 25 grips and massages should it be (you can read it here [url]http://www.tantra-massagen-berlin. De/Lingammassage_en.html[/url]). I'm 2 or 3 times every year in berlin by business, I will visit the lounge at any time. They write that a queer american Taoist created this Lingam massage. I never heard before about this guy.

[QUOTE=Bobo.fr]My last visits at KD :

1) Sandra ( [url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/sandra.htm[/url] ) : (fortunately) she is not former Sandra who worked at KD around 2 years ago. When I met her, Sandra told me that she only worked at KD for 3 days (I don't know if she worked somewhere else before). Healthy, firm and attractive figure, cute face, beautiful eyes, she does not speak much English. She may kiss but not so deep (at least with me).

2) Gina ( [url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/s...gina-esc-e.htm[/url] ) : I failed to book Gina in November but this time we could organize a private meeting; some kisses but not so many (less than with Sandra) and not so deep, some tattooes.

3) Mercedes ( [url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/s...mercedes-e.htm[/url] ) : tall lady (I think more than 1m76 published on the web site ) very nice BJ (may be DT ? I don't remember !), and balls lickings, no kisses (with me).

4) second meeting with Valentina ( [url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/s...s/valent-e.htm[/url] ) : no doubt any more, she does not kiss (me); gentle and may have orgasms (some ladies prevent themselves from that !) during the meeting.

So, the top was the meeting with Sandra (but far away from meetings with former Romy ([url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=679679&postcount=762 [/url] ) ) : how will she evoluate in this job ?[/QUOTE]

I don't know why the previous links (to English pages) did not work while those following do ???

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/gina-esc-e.htm[/url]

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/mercedes-e.htm[/url]

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/valent-e.htm[/url]

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0]Just read the forum. It's why we have it. Prestige, Kamilla-Dee for boutique booty, Artemis if you want to increase the odds of success to 200% and have time. You could even take Twardzik69 with you, but perhaps after he's had his rabies shot. Cause his approach is what gives us all a bad rep. Chill baby.[/QUOTE]What's wrong with my approach? Explain, Rocketboy0.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0]Lads. Tried, so to speak, to plow virgin fields yesterday with a daytime visit to the "exclusive" (just ask them) Bel Ami private club, near the Olympic Stadium. Called beforehand to get a feel for the scene and was told there were only 4 staff there now but more would arrive after 16:00. Price info impossible to find anywhere on the web including their site. No entrance fee, staff rates are slightly higher but comparable to all private houses-e. G. 45 min for €150, 60 for €200. The difference is you can hang out in their pool, sauna, get some free soft/warm drinks. In theory, not a bad deal. After 20:00, same rates apply but you also have to buy an obligatory €250 bottle of champagne, which surely keeps the waiting ques down.

What actually happened: I arrived at 15:30, was given a quick tour of the attractive mansion, then I was told again there were only 4 staff there now but more would arrive after 16:00, and more still after 20:00 (surprise). None moved my desireometer past 0, so I asked could I wait til 16:00. A phone call were made and then it seemed actually, ah, er, there were no others coming ("there were lots in the morning"). So now 15:45, I asked well, could I at least just wait 15 minutes to see if any turned up, as I had come from far and explained all that on the phone in my fairly good German. The reply: "No, you must choose now, or leave. That is the policy". I explained again the whole project, phone call, S-Bahn, hike over, the visit briefing etc. Had taken well over an hour, and surely they could let me stay 15 minutes? Nein. So I left. The odd thing was, I was the only potential client there. Place was completely empty apart from the 4 horsewomen of the apocalypse. You would think being a little accommodating might have been a shrewd business move.

Bel it is, but Ami, it surely is not. Don't waste your time, or money.

All not lost as Artemis is close by. I licked my wounds and had a roaring time there, as always.[/QUOTE]

Been meaning to write a short comment thanking you for this post RB. I have always just assumed that Bel Ami is one of the finer addresses here in Berlin and regretted that it was a bit past what I am willing to spend. Thanks to your report I can rest easy;-)

One has to wonder exactly what sort of business plan they are following. Sounds like there are many better places to drop the cash here in Berlin. Artemis being high on my list as well.

[QUOTE=Bobo.fr]I don't know why the previous links (to English pages) did not work while those following do ???

[/QUOTE]

When giving links I tend to give it a separate line as you did here. That way it does not get mixed up with any extraneous characters-like a(,)-thus disabling the url link.

And thanks for the KD reports. Good information.

IME the KD girls either kiss with great enthusiasm, if there is some kind of connection, or kiss very little. I have only ever had one girl there who kissed with abandon and we had a very nice connection.

With Valentina I also do not really get any kissing. But her bj is so deep and, I find, spectacular, that I will return to see her any time she is in Berlin.

Last time I saw her I asked if I could hold her head as she blew me. She said sure and I took her head carefully in my hands, not wanting to "go to far". She then took my hands and placed them forcefully on the back of my head and said-"now fuck my mouth!"

Wow. She really seems to enjoy, at least with me and I assume in general to get a fairly hard mouth/throat fuck.

Now if it was only bbbj...

But the girl does porn and is very aware of safety. A good thing I guess.

[QUOTE=Twardzik69]What's wrong with my approach? Explain, Rocketboy0.[/QUOTE]Well let's review the essential bit of your post:

I'm hoping to first try to amaze some 3rd world chicks with my 1st world charm/looks/money/cock but then if that fails just get two hookers. I'm the pretty cool guy, eh speak German/English and doesn't afraid of anything.

Some women (God forbid, not me of course) might find this as an infantile mix of arrogance, delusion, and even quaint imperialism. But don't take my word for it, read it aloud to a female friend. I just don't get why you felt you had to write this. For you, for us? If you look through the forum, it is really unique. I have a feeling all this will get projected to your female partners. The relevant bit here is that some mongers think because they pay for it, anything goes. You cannot imagine what the girls think of us. Ask them if you dare. That would really take guts from a "cool guy with charm, looks, money, cock. "

If you really want a satisfying experience vs. Just a little quick orgasm, reciprocity, respect and contact is the only way. Ask e. G. Angus and Jackyo-the resident wisemen here. But it's your party and if it works for you, great. I'm done.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Been meaning to write a short comment thanking you for this post RB. I have always just assumed that Bel Ami is one of the finer addresses here in Berlin and regretted that it was a bit past what I am willing to spend. Thanks to your report I can rest easy;-)

One has to wonder exactly what sort of business plan they are following. Sounds like there are many better places to drop the cash here in Berlin. Artemis being high on my list as well.[/QUOTE]Happy to have helped. I must admit my expectations were high. It could well be better at night, but surely not "that" much. I'm a little worried about the Art's scene. Prices have gone up, the team seems not as good as a year ago, though admittedly this is a taste thing. It's still good, as you know, but it was better. On the list is Villa Rascona but it's only a night thing opening at 2100. I think all these places have suffered as Artemis has such a draw and perhaps for the girls, more money based on more turnover. It is the Love Bahnhoff.

Anyone with Rascona experience? Otherwise, Angus. If you'd like to form a joint-recon team, let me know. After le Bel Ami, I'd like someone along as bodyguard.

[url]http://www.libertyberlin.de/anna.htm[/url]

The clocks went forward last night, the day was warm, spring time here in Berlin and the sap is rising. I found myself making my way towards Liberty at around 14:45 anticipating, I hoped, a lovely session with a new girl, Anna, who had appeared just two weeks back on the site, first without pictures and then, this week, with a new set of beautifully enticing photos.

The site gives her age as 18 and the photos do seem to support this.

As usual the intake was handled well by the Hausmutti, who by now knows me well. I was shown to one of the better rooms (I had called ahead and made an hour appointment. I think that this makes a difference in the room you are given) and very shortly Anna made her entrance.

Lads. the photos do not lie and besides a very beautiful slender body she has a beautiful face. Now will the service match?

We took care of business (120€/1hour) and off she went as I took a shower and waited. Upon her return we lay down on the bed and got to know each other a bit. She speaks really no English so my growing German skills were really put to the test. But she seemed very open, telling me some details of her life which I will not repeat here but which were nice to hear and helped set the stage for what was to be one of the nicest sessions I have had this year so far.

When we did get down to what I had come for I was quite simply breathless as she removed her bra and presented me with a pair of breasts that I could easily die while licking and suckling and be a happy man. At this point I decided that either she is truly 18 or I did not care in the least. She is in fact at the moment 18, for what it is worth-soon to be 19.

I kissed my way down to her pussy and found again a real treat. And she was from the start very responsive getting wet and directing my fingers into her pussy as I lapped at her clit and labia. A girl who actually likes to be fingered. What a treat.

As it was an hour session I took my time and she soon came to a strong shuddering orgasm rubbing her then creaming pussy against my tongue and lips.

Wow!

Next was my turn and I asked for a bj (covered) which did not disappoint though I have had better and would also soon have better. Read on.

The fucking was, I was soon to find out, also top notch as I do think that she was authentically turned on. What can I say. Old Angus my be 50 but he has some experience and there was some nice chemistry between us.

Then came a little incident that could have ruined a very good session. I was fucking her doggy, fairly close to coming, when I looked down and realized that I was bareback inside her.

Broken condom! Yikes!

I pulled out immediately and showed her what had happened and the poor girl was very upset. Then I realized that she thought I had come inside her! After assuring her (and showing her with an inserted finger) that I had caught it before coming she calmed down quite a bit. But little Angus was, well, little Angus once more. Erection completely vanished in an instant.

I spent a few minutes reassuring her, telling her that I was safe and had myself tested frequently and she was soon back to herself again and ready to go. But the time was getting short and I decided to ask her if she would do FT (bbbjcim) with even though on the website this service is not listed for her. She was more than glad to do it. (30€)

So I lay back and let her do the work. Now this second bj, now uncovered, was much more to my liking. It was, I would have to say, very, very well done. True she did use her hand but it was well used and as a support to her mouth work not as an avoidance. And she kept very good eye contact and generally made a very good show, which I just love, and plenty of saliva.

For the finish she kept her mouth open with the head of my dick on her tongue, kind of ending up with half facial, half cim and then as I was finishing took me again in her mouth and sucked until I was pretty much spent. Only then did she get up, wipe of with paper towel and then head for the sink for a quick gargle. And who can blame a girl for that?

So summing up-IMO this girl is simply fantastic. She is authentically new in the profession so maybe this will change with time but right now she is a genuine sweetie and I give her my 5 star recommendation. I think if you treat her with consideration she will give you one of the better sessions you can have in Berlin at the moment.

Would I repeat? The only question is how soon!