Advice for Indians visiting Thailand

I had been to Thailand nearly 20 times and have traveled extensively from Hatyai, Yala near Malaysian border to Chiang Mai & Chiang rai up north near Myanmar & Laos. Nakhon and Khon in the Center including Not to mention the Bigger cities of Bangkok and touristy Pattaya & Phuket. Never I have encountered any negative attitudes nor sultry treatments. Thai people were always friendly to me and I have commanded highest reception in many of the GoGo bars and clubs. It's true that few would have encountered some bad treatments but to generalize it as "Indians" looks pathetic and gives negative vibes in public forum. Guys with bad attitude and who doesn't know to behave experiences negative treatment any where in the globe irrespective of his own nationality. May be there are too many Indians (almost 1 to 1.2 million out of 25 million tourists are Indians) visiting and definitely there will be some thugs in it who are visibly noticeable. If Indians are not welcomed in Thai then why the hell Thai tourism conduct tourism expo in Various cities in India to attract more Indiank Tourists. This forum is much exaggerated and make us feel shun in an international forum.

Note to fellow Indians: Guys remember that you are posting in an international forum and it's better to double check for your self respect and esteem before making a post.

[QUOTE=Scorchin;1803209]May I as a British citizen intrude on this thread?
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Indians, cool it and respect the Thais.[/QUOTE]Visitors from China are a bigger nuisance. It has gotten so bad there are now signs in Suvarnabhumi Airport informing Chinese to "respect Buddha" and "not you-rinate in Public".

A big chunk of these Chinese live in the rural areas in China. When they visit Thailand it is their first international trip and it shows.

The reason you do not hear about this is because these folks do not speak English; and they certainly do not post on ISG!

Oh, I almost forgot - the British gave something back to China too. They gave an island called Hong Kong.

This should motivate you to translate your "cool it" message and offer free advise to the Chinese.

~BKKguru.

I know there are people all around the world who behave like they are the king & all there bad behaviors should be ignored. These kind of people deserve the equal kind of behavior irrespective of their nationality.

At the BritishGuy who replied below: Dude don't be so rude when behaving in a public forum. If we'll start the tell about what you take from India in the disguise of Ruling then it'll be another chapter. Let's not go to that discussion since that will be utter waste of time. Just chill & enjoy mongering.

And to all others, I know since Tourists from India are more compared to other nationals the behaviors (let's say bad behaviors) of Indians get noticed more frequently. What we can do is try our part to behave as a human being & think about our nations image before making a scene in public.

The second most imp-important points is when going for mongering treat the women as a normal human being you meet in your daily life. I know in India prostitutes are treated very badly, which is not right. Again in Thailand it's completely different & prostitution is treated as any other normal profession. Be gentle & polite and I'm sure you'll get the best treatment.

Regards,

Fellow monger.

We were charged 50 o Baht entryfee into craxy house gogo.

Although didn't find such discrimination at other gogos like shark. Baccara had a board outside members only.

At NEP We didnot find any such entry fee but at one gogo we had to pay advance cash for ordered drinks.

Planning a trip to patayya soon don't know hows the scene there.

Actually I think, moustache is an identifier for either Indians, pakistanis or Gulfcountries.

[QUOTE=Raju1974;1826949]Baccara had a board outside members only.[/QUOTE]When I was in Thailand, it was the start of the busy tourist season, and Baccara in Bangkok would so get packed to the gills! So packed some nights you could barely move. Both downstairs and upstairs! I would imagine that we're in the heart of the tourist season now, and the place could be getting so packed that they could be trying to exercise some crowd control. Too bad they feel they have to do it with this bogus "members only" bullshit. I made a few posts involving my door policy "incidents" in Thailand. Here's the general summary:

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And here's what was going down at Baccara in Bangkok when I was there:

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By the way, I am not Indian. I am African-American with a skin tone such as Barack Obama.

[QUOTE=Raju1974;1826949]We were charged 50 o Baht entryfee into craxy house gogo.

Although didn't find such discrimination at other gogos like shark. Baccara had a board outside members only.

At NEP We didnot find any such entry fee but at one gogo we had to pay advance cash for ordered drinks.

Planning a trip to patayya soon don't know hows the scene there.

Actually I think, moustache is an identifier for either Indians, pakistanis or Gulfcountries.[/QUOTE]I agree to some extend and mostly it's due to behavior of people. They go to gogo but don't buy drink and the way Indian look at girls and myself had that problem "we stare".

Our western counterpart includes smile while starring which makes it all good.

Also Thai people have that thing for white skin.

Remember to respect girls in gogo.

And it's all business there, white people can spend more money than us.

And even if they behave bad (few) and yes they do. They cannot do same thing with them as that industries thrive on them.

And we can be easily differentiated among them. So we are easily categorized and target.

There is no problem taking money at entry in this way they can insure they are running business not a free entry museum.

Remember Indian subcontinent gave them "The Great Buddha".

And they love Indian culture.

Everything else is all business.

Guys,

I've a real tight situation over here. I'm into deep confusion.

I planned a trip for BKK / Pattaya for the very first time with my friend sometime back, but he dropped himself few days back. I decided to continue alone.

Now I got a contact from travel buddies site who is asking me to join with him. All the things can be sorted out but only one confusion I've in mind.

1-I spoke with him & he sounds okay. He already has gone to LOS for 5 times, thus knows every in and out. But he is completely unknown to me where as he can be great help since I'm new. Will it be a risk?

2-I can continue solo like I planned. But again since it's my very first time some unexpected situations might occur. If going with somebody who already has experience could be some help.

I've only couple of days to decide since flight tickets are going to be hiked. Some help would definitely be welcome.

[QUOTE=MusicalToM;1838540]Guys,

I've a real tight situation over here. I'm into deep confusion.

I planned a trip for BKK / Pattaya for the very first time with my friend sometime back, but he dropped himself few days back. I decided to continue alone.

Now I got a contact from travel buddies site who is asking me to join with him. All the things can be sorted out but only one confusion I've in mind.

1-I spoke with him & he sounds okay. He already has gone to LOS for 5 times, thus knows every in and out. But he is completely unknown to me where as he can be great help since I'm new. Will it be a risk?

2-I can continue solo like I planned. But again since it's my very first time some unexpected situations might occur. If going with somebody who already has experience could be some help.

I've only couple of days to decide since flight tickets are going to be hiked. Some help would definitely be welcome.[/QUOTE]You can head by yourself to BKK and still have a great time. So don't worry about the company.

As for the travel buddy no harm in meeting them at a neutral location once or twice before moving around with them.

[QUOTE=Samarth;1826969]I agree to some extend and mostly it's due to behavior of people. They go to gogo but don't buy drink and the way Indian look at girls and myself had that problem "we stare".
And it's all business there, white people can spend more money than us.
There is no problem taking money at entry in this way they can insure they are running business not a free entry museum.
Everything else is all business.[/QUOTE]You hit the points. Most likely the 50 baht entry fee, which is peanuts, serves to show the commitment of the visitor as a (spending) customer.

Those guys run a show, good or bad, rent a place, pay electricity bills, pay service staff, arrange for girls and they obviously do it for a reason: earning money just as any business venue.

The earning comes from drinks, bar fines. Period. Nothing else. Why should they allow someone to peep for free?

[QUOTE=MusicalToM;1838540]Guys,

I've a real tight situation over here. I'm into deep confusion.

I planned a trip for BKK / Pattaya for the very first time with my friend sometime back, but he dropped himself few days back. I decided to continue alone.

Now I got a contact from travel buddies site who is asking me to join with him. All the things can be sorted out but only one confusion I've in mind.

1-I spoke with him & he sounds okay. He already has gone to LOS for 5 times, thus knows every in and out. But he is completely unknown to me where as he can be great help since I'm new. Will it be a risk?

2-I can continue solo like I planned. But again since it's my very first time some unexpected situations might occur. If going with somebody who already has experience could be some help.

I've only couple of days to decide since flight tickets are going to be hiked. Some help would definitely be welcome.[/QUOTE]It is easy to go to Thailand.

You don't need a buddy to hold your hand.

But it can be nice to travel with a friend and go out together.

However, doing this with someone you don't know yet is always a risk. Maybe he is someone who likes to sleep until noon and go out late and you get up early and want to pick up a gogo-girl more early in the evening. Maybe he gets drunk everyday and you stay sober.

I suggest that you arange your own trip and meet him in Bangkok. Then after you meet, you can still decide if you want to do things together or not.

Personally, visiting clubs and bars together is nice, but picking up a girl to bring to your hotel can be somewhat awkward. What if you find a girl you like and your friend not yet? Will you abandon him or trawl more bars until he finds one? Your girl might not like that. Difficult situation which I like to avoid.

Hi Vivek,

I just came across this forum, its good that this forum was created to help many of us get info to visit Thailand. In fact, the subject of the forum must be changed. We just need to delete the word "Indians", as these advises and tips can apply to any nationality visiting Thailand.

I have given you most of the tips on PM. You just need to collect the best info from all the tips you got, and head to Thailand.

OR you can, screw the tips, just go with the flow, Thailand is very easy to explore, and people are helpful. Just like some senior mentioned below, google would be your best friend, as most of the tips we give, is our experience, you can either learn from them, or create your own experience.

Do not research too much, as you may get confused when you're in Thailand. Things might have changed in reality.

Here are some tips again;.

1. Carry Dollars. There's this online site called Travellex, where you can book your dollars in advance depending on the best conversion rate you get for that particular day. So keep watching the site, and book your dollar as per the best rate you get, and collect the money later; that way you can ensure you get good value for your INR.

2. Book your hotels online, use a credit card to make payments to hotel, and flights, so that you can pay them back at a later stage, and this would not affect your current cash flow;.

3. As soon as you land in Bangkok, (maybe around 4 or 5 AM), go to the lower floor at the hotel (Don't know if its ground floor or lower ground floor) and book a taxi to pattaya. You can also take a bus to Pattaya, which would be much cheaper and preferred if you are going alone.

4. As mentioned in the PM, make friends with a taxi driver, he will give out all the info about where to do what, and what to avoid. Most of these taxi guys have menu cards with them in their car, and they can take you to many of these places without additional charge. They get paid well by the establishments for every customer they bring in.

5. I find Go Go Bars boring, so make sure you don't spend loads of time at the go go bars. But having said that, do visit Moulin Rouge at walking street pattaya. They have the best Russian and European women, they give you a hot lap dance for a tip of 100 THB. The idea to get as many lap dances from different girls. You don't need to call them, they come to you, give you a sensual dance, and the standard tip there is 100 THB.

6. You do not need to go to an escort service, instead go to the discotechs like Insonmia, on walking street. At these clubs, make friends with the dancer girls, tip them with lady drinks which cost about 100-200 for a shot of tequilla or I don't know what's in those shot glasses. These girls would introduce you to freelancer girls. There are also some new discotechs opened on walking street, I do not know the name of the club, maybe some brother out here can mention the names of new clubs in pattaya.

7. These freelancers are similar to Indies that we have here, they do not sleep around on a regular basis, but only during weekends or when they are free or even when they are broke. Most of them own businesses like small shop / salon / laundry or work for one of them. They are not full time call girls. You can get the best GFE experiences from them, and also they will give you a lot of info about scoring in Thailand.

8. At the club, try not to make friends with other male tourists, especially people from our motherland, as sometimes these freelancer girls avoid men who come in groups, so this would spoil your chances with this girl.

9. Bangkok is usually more expensive than Pattaya, but you get all the fun with better girls in Pattaya, so why visit Bangkok and waste your money, there's lots to see in Pattaya itself. Plus Bangkok has a lot of traffic during evening hours, so you would end up spending a good amount of time on the road.

10. Dress well, look smart, smell fresh, these are the things thai women are particular about. If you want good service, you need to work towards it. Nothing comes as a package, unless you visit a brothel, where the services might be mechanical. You can say you're from India, but also give an impression that you are a classy indian and not part of a group tour package.

The experience is so fresh in my mind, that I enjoy telling it to people, and when talking about it, I feel like I am re-living the experience all together. I am sure most of the menmbers in this thread feel the same.

Now the next post from you, we're all expecting an FR and not another question. LOL.

[QUOTE=Vivek;1801571]Hi Friends,

I know that Location wise, this may not be the right forum for asking these questions. But wanted to Know from a Mumbai / Indian Resident. And this info will be useful to many mumbaikars as expenses for Hotel and girls in Bangkok are almost same as Mumbai. I am planning a Sex Tour in Bangkok for about 4-5 days. I will be travelling alone and for the first time. So wanted to know experience of other Indians. I read in many forums that many Go-Go bars and nightclubs in Bangkok do not treat Indians well and there are many incidents of cheating / theft. Is there any tour from India which is especially for Bachelors. ?. I found one "Bangkok Hangover tour" that operates locally in Bangkok and they take you to all best nightclubs in a single night. They have a web-site. For sex tourist, is Bangkok any different from Pattaya and Phuket? Necessary to travel all 3 places? Which is the best / safest place for sex tourist?. Bangkok? Pattaya? Or Phuket? Which is best hotel in which I can walk to Red Light District. I heard Nana Hotel in Bangkok is next to Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy Street. Thanks in Advance.

Vivek.[/QUOTE]

Hello,

I would be having a one night stop over at Bangkok in the last week of April and would be staying mostly at Hotel Amari Watergate.

Would be coming in the early morning from Koh Samui and my return flight is at 7 pm on the next day.

Would really appreciate if anyone can give some advice so that I can hope to soak in as much fun as possible. I would definitely wish to sample a mix of the massage parlors / go-go bars in the short time that I have.

This would be my first time in Bangkok.

Many thanks,

Mark

Any hotels recommended in Pattaya where walking street is at a walkable distance from it and girl friendly.

[QUOTE=Speed2487;1944066]Any hotels recommended in Pattaya where walking street is at a walkable distance from it and girl friendly.[/QUOTE]Hello,

Whenever I have visited Pattaya have always stayed in Penthouse hotel which is like a minute from walking street. Check their website online. Its a guys dream hotel.

Regards.

On the agogo side of things in Pattaya, I would highly recommend Sensations on Walking Street for Indians.

I see them in Sensations all the time with no issues.

On one visit, there was this one persistent Indian fellow. By persistent I don't mean in a negative way, but someone that doesn't let a few bumps bother him. He wanted to buy a drink for one girl on stage, but she refused him. But he eventually found a girl that would go with him and he barfined her (a hottie by the way).