[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1293820]Any Other sport you pansies are playing? LOL[/QUOTE]Hide the sausage.
Judging from the banter on here, it's not very popular in Thailand :).
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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1293820]Any Other sport you pansies are playing? LOL[/QUOTE]Hide the sausage.
Judging from the banter on here, it's not very popular in Thailand :).
[QUOTE=Oldian;1293899]Agreed. It really does amaze me here though at how much guys think that if they pay more they will get a better session.[/QUOTE]To use an obvious example, some of the brighter lights here might understand, when a working girl requires a tip or 2 times her ST rate for special services, like BBFS, either you pay more to get the "better session" or you simply don't get it. Capiche?
[QUOTE=Oldian;1293899]A buddy of mine took a freelancer last week. 20, claimed to be studying, quite pretty. She didn't come on as hardened, in fact didn't even talk about money prior to going home. He said she was nice enough, a bit starfishy, but looked good enough that it didn't matter. When she left, she told him she had uni fees due the next morning, and guess what, they were exactly 2000 baht. He paid her, then tried to contact her again this week, and she blew him off. I ran into her tonight, snapped her up, had an enjoyable time with her, and gave her 1500. She asked for 2000, and I gave her a "get serious" look. She smiled, asked for my number and asked if she could come over next week. And the session was anything but starfishy. Bottom line here is you pay what you pay. What you get back or "quality" or service has absolutely ZERO to do with that, but rather with your interaction and rapport with the girl. My mates and I were discussing tonight about the 10 most expensive girls we have ever had here. And most interestingly enough, we really couldn't remember any of them, nor their service. Mongering in Thailand is most definitely not the case of you get what you pay for.[/QUOTE]I'd rather pay the extra 17 measely bucks & not have to "interact" or have "rapport with the girl". It's well worth it for the extra few dollars. Just suck my cock & fuck me for 3 hours, get paid & get out. BTW, my phone never stops ringing and recieving PM's from such girls, although I have it on mute 24/7.
But for you Don Juan types, carry on making the girl think you are like a BF, when you only want to save a few pennies. And beware being susceptible to the traps of TG magic, like so many naive Westerners have fallen into. Between me and my regulars there is no such BS. BTW, I doubt you have more charisma than their Thai lovers do. They could take the vast majority of farangs to school.
Transited through Bangkok a couple of weeks ago and had a choice to make, stay at a hotel near the airport and be bored, or head to a hotel near Sukhumvit and have some fun. Went for the later choice and had some fun. Stayed in the Grand Majestic on Soi 2, good little hotel, close to the action and easy to get too / from the airport.
[U][B]Night 1[/B][/U]
Had plans to walk round as many bars as possible, having a couple of beers as I go, look for a girl of choice and bar fine at some point. Started in the pool bar just down from Annie's at about 4pm. Few OK looking girls there, and a few more started to arrive whilst I supped on a beer, but nothing of great interest, and most of the girls looked as if they had seen better days. Moved one bar down and generally the same. Decided it was time for food (the edible kind) and went round to the Irish Bar on Soi 4 and sat outside watching the world go by whilst having a few more beers and getting some sustenance into my system. Was a great place to watch the world go by, plenty of eye contact, plenty of approaches and certainly enough lookers walking up and down to the street to keep my interest up. Decided to move on to the bar at the entrance to Nana Plaza. Have sat in here on previous visits, always a good place to watch the talent going into Nana when it's too early to hit the clubs themselves. My plan had been to have a couple of beers then head into the Plaza. This plan disappeared when I started to talk to a couple of the "waitresses". Jai and Fon. Ended up stying in here for a few hours and then going WTF. And bar fined both of them. 600 baht for each. We headed off towards the hotel but decided to stop off at the pool bar I had previously been in. The look on the face of the girls who had seen me earlier was interesting. The old "missed chance". Anyway, after a couple of games of pool it was back to the hotel. No problems getting the girls into the hotel. Didn't even get asked for I'd. By the time we reached back to the hotel I had 4 1/2 hours before I had to head to the airport (had a 7am flight to catch) , so things needed to start happening quickly. I had a quick shower then headed to the bed, the girls headed off to the bathroom then it was a sort of free for all. They mixed up who was giving the BBBJ and who was going DATY. They banged heads charging for the BBBJ. What a problem. Had a couple of hours bouncing around in the bed, as you would do with two girls. Then decided to let one go, hell I needed at least one hours sleep before a dawn surprise and a taxi to the airport. Gave each of the girls 2000 baht. Would classify them as nothing spectacular but where a good laugh. Fon appeared to be the one who enjoyed herself more, certainly didn't need any lubrication!
[U][B]Night 2[/B][/U]
On my return back through, a few days later, I met up with a non-mongering friend for a few beers (he lives in Bangkok). I'd walked past the bar that I'd picked up Jai and Fon from, and they where there, said my hellos, then headed off to meet my mate. After a few beers we headed down towards Nana (he may not monger but he does have fun in the bars). Called back into the bar and the girls weren't there. Not that I was aiming to bar fine them again, but would have had some fun in the bar with them. The other girls in the bar tried to spin some stories that they had to go off and sort out some personal business and would be back, just had to wait around. Laughed that one off, do they really think we're that dumb. They'd been bar fined, why don't they just say that. Anyway, we had one drink then headed into the Plaza. First stop was Spankies. Have had a couple of fun non-mongering nights in here before and there was a few girls that recognized me. There were a few good looking girls, some I would happily have had some fun with, but not a lot. Had a few beers, drank some shots then my friend wanted to move on so we went next door to Angel Witch. The selection of girls in there was a lot better. After we ordered drink we pulled down a couple of girls from the stage. My mate was actually getting close to going home time and he knew I was hanging around, and I thought I'd made my choice for the night, untill she sat down beside me and smiled. Ahhhhhh, braces. She was a gorgeous looking girl, but sorry, I aint letting anybody near my tackle with braces on. So with my mate gone, and staring at braces I decided to drink up and move on. Next stop DC-10, OK, that's a mistake, small narrow bar, low quality girls, one beer, then next bar. Decided to hit Rainbow 4. Sat down, ordered a drink and admired the view. Lot's of good looking girls (in my view) , so decided it was just a matter of choosing one and heading off to the hotel. That decision was made easier when I was approached by a girl that I would classify as a 7 or 8, a few pleasantries and we're heading out the door at about 10pm. Now my biggest problem is I tend not to negotiate what I'm after and this girl ended up being what I would classify as a dud. My fault, so I can't complain. This was a CBJ girl, hell hadn't come across one of those in a long time. Not much to say about the time in bed. Couple of hours of rolling around, not star fish, but close. Not something I would repeat (can remember her face, but not her name). Anyway. 600baht + 2000baht and two hours later, it's midnight, and I'm lying on my bed, thinking it's 5 1/2 hours till I have to be at the airport. Smart brain says sleep, dumb brain says sod it, you're in Bangkok, you can sleep on the plane. So, it's up and at them, quick shower and change and it's off we go. I pretty much had a girl in mind. As mentioned earlier I had been in Spankies a few times (not including the current) , and the last time I was there with my non-mongering mate he pulled the girl with the biggest set of plastic fantastic's in the bar and had proceeded to fondle the hell out of them and her for a couple of hours. We had a drink with her earlier in the evening and I decided I need to have a go at them myselfmyself. So back to Spankies I went and there she was shuffling on the stage. She recognized me and came down and sat beside me. She drinks tequila shots for ladies drink, and had already had a few, so I'm dealing with a drunk girl. This can go one of two ways. Dud or over the top. Anyway, dumb brain engaged I bar fined her and off she went to get changed. She came back in what you could call a dress, with the fun bags just sitting out front. What a sight. Problem 1 arose at that point. She had washed off her make-up and she wasn't the best looking of girls underneath it. Definitely had suffered from an acne problem before. Dumb brain in gear. Let's go anyway. I've paid the bar fine. So off we went to the hotel. By the time we got back to the room I had a giggling girl ripping her clothes off as she walked thru the door. She charged into the bathroom for a quick shower, were I joined in and the fun really started. This girl was up for everything and anything. She drooped down to start a really nice BBBJ in the shower, but with all the beer and a two hour season just completed that was going to take a while, so I pulled her into the bedroom and decided to dine on some nice Thai pussy. This girl really got into that and it wasn't hard to figure out that she was enjoying herself. She was in full flow and grinding my head into her. The next thing she is grabbing my fingers and pushing them into her and then starts to play with her ass. Ah well, time to make up for the dud two hours ago, and to be less than subtle, and hell this is a forum for guys that want to know, by the time I was finished with this girl she could just about take a full hand in either her pussy or her ass and she was soaking the bed. By now I was up and raring to go and we had sex in many positions in both holes finally ripping of my condom and exploding over her back a couple off hours after we had hit the room. By now it was supposedly two hours to taxi time and we where exhausted. Decision made to see how quickly I can get thru BKK airport and decided that I was definitely up for a dawn strike with this one. She curled over beside me, with my hand just about inside her again and she went off to sleep. Two hours later, the alarm goes and it's repeat session. Must admit, was a really good night. The only girl I have had better with is a regular freebie I have in Jakarta who may as well be a porn star actress. So all in all, as far as looks go I would have given this girl a 5 to 6, but service up around the 9 to 10. Easy to pick out in Spankies. Very slim, massive set of silicon tits, and a massive tattoo on her left shoulder of a dragon wrapped around a tiger. Buy her some drinks. It was definitely worth it, and I would definitely go there again. Unfortunately I just don; t make it to Bangkok too often. (cost was the standard 600 + 2000)
On another point, with reference to some comments earlier in the thread, there where 3 "Indian" looking guys sitting in front of me, so if you have problems getting into some of the other bars head to Spankies. They seem to be less discriminatory. Have fun.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1293960]Very well stated on all fronts. The freelance scene on Sukhumvit is dismal.[/QUOTE]Dismal? That may be your best chance of having real sex, albeit higher risk, unless you take precautions. See Safe Sex thread for more details or elaboration.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1293960]Although you might find a gem every once in awhile in the BG, they are few and far between.[/QUOTE]Uh, yeah, this is well known to be one of the worst pickup spots in Thailand. Compare Grace Hotel & Chinatown.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1293960]Thermae is really the domain of the Japanese, and so what?[/QUOTE]Domain? Fuck the Japs! Many girls here are hot, just offer substantially more than them, like 6000 baht, and you are good to go! But other than doing that, which I've never actually tried, I've had as good experiences here as BG, namely few and far between. So just walk up to any girl you love and say "Can I take you short time for 10 thousand baht" & report back here how it went. And thank me later. LOL. If she says ok, then say how about 5000, 3000, etc, and see how low she will go. LOL.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1293960]Nana lot, well, that is 1k baht wham bam thank you mam for the most part,[/QUOTE]Maybe 10% of freelancers there & in the area nearby are worthy of repeats IME & IMO. At times, if you are lucky, you can pick up a stunner for that price, I. E. Young very cute petite uni girl in a school girl uniform.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1293960]And gogos are the scene of overpriced beer, sketchy performers, and questionable service.[/QUOTE]Most opinions I've read on forums agree, including here, in spite of a few recent opinions to the contrary, one which was based on a solitary experience of a well reviewed gogo, with a fresh off the farm very young girl. How dumb was that? Giotto was surely rolling over in his / her grave, er, lodge, in Cambodia, at that review. LOL! BTW I must check him & his girls out some time. In cognito, of course.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1293960]I agree with you on quality vs quantity. Although I have had some great sessions here, usually with oily girls, for the most part Thai women are not that great in the sack. Yes, some like to "have sex" and are compliant but they are not all that skilled in the art of seduction and are not as "nasty" in the sack as most Western or Latin women I have been with. They are just not the type to go into the bathroom, slip on some sexy lingerie, and come crawling across the floor to you. But, that being said, they are really pleasant to live with and be with. They wake up happy most all the time, and you can't put a price tag on that.[/QUOTE]Thai culture is conservative compared to the crazy Latinos. Each has their advantages. Personally I like variety & can find both types & everything I want in Siam.
You ever been to Bangkok?
[QUOTE=Humilde; 1293702]My sources; bi lingual educated thai's, thai fluent expats.
Nana Area; Soi 7 Beer Garden. Should be "Fear Garden" due toe % of nasty acting, looking FL's. Most of the FL there are at same / similar to level of FL's in BKK Chinatown (Yaowarat) that get 500 baht ST room included. Massage on Petchaburi Road includes room, bath, happy happy for 12-1400 ST afternoon special (Angelina) and you get safety knowing it is highly unlikely you will get robbed. Rachada Road (High Class Massage) many cute polite staff to choose.
1900 baht. Way better than Fear Garden. Many more places also.
Fear Garden FL not there cause they like sex. They like money and hope to find a foreigner dumb / ignorant enough to give them 3X or more market value. Then you likely get mediocre service at best from someone that could be an immigrant from "planet of the apes". Actually an insult to the fictional inhabitants of "planet of the apes" since they evolved into a logical intelligent society.
Then if that weren't enough, you may need to listen to one of the many "sympathy story scripts" designed to extract even more money from you. Even if the FL's were all beautiful LOL, Thai males have zero interest in listening to these stories, even if one is occasionally true.
Even if you find a sweet young thing at a disco, odds are against good service and enjoyment as even mainstream women are not particularly good lovers. Then you may encounter the "I hurt" or "Tickles" or "I finish I go" Lord knows why Thailand became so famous for the sex business, it's certainly not based on quality but probably quantity.
Fear Garden FL's would love to see them post a sign "Entry limited to first time in Thailand males"[/QUOTE]
Having been in Bangkok for the past 20 years I can assure you this year is even less people. Its not girls telling me, I can actually see it as well.
What do you think about June 2012, as opposed to June 2010/11?
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1293843]This sounds like a typical low season. IME TGs will give you the story at any time of the year about few customers. When the rains come you get "cannot go to you today. My home rain to much!" IOW I don't want to get my hair wet. Want to eat som tam, smoke yaba and sleep all day.
Euro 2012. The Euro dollar & economy are ruining it for European 2012 mongering in LOS. LOL. Maybe try again in lucky number 13, if the world hasn't ended.
IME that will change by July.
As for a bunch of men chasing a round ball, flopping and often purposely diving to the ground when barely touched, with much crying and writhing in great agony, do they not have TV's in LOS? Do fans give up on sex for the tourny? I'm sure most Euros love their "football" 2012 more than playing footsies in bed, especially if it's a lame 3 minutes every time.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hung Man 1808; 1293969]Hide the sausage.
Judging from the banter on here, it's not very popular in Thailand.[/QUOTE]Of course it is! Every second ISG member coming to Thailand is coming to hide his sausage.
[QUOTE=Humilde; 1293702]My sources; bi lingual educated thai's, thai fluent expats.
Nana Area; Soi 7 Beer Garden. Should be "Fear Garden" due toe % of nasty acting, looking FL's. Most of the FL there are at same / similar to level of FL's in BKK Chinatown (Yaowarat) that get 500 baht ST room included. Massage on Petchaburi Road includes room, bath, happy happy for 12-1400 ST afternoon special (Angelina) and you get safety knowing it is highly unlikely you will get robbed. Rachada Road (High Class Massage) many cute polite staff to choose.
1900 baht. Way better than Fear Garden. Many more places also.
Fear Garden FL not there cause they like sex. They like money and hope to find a foreigner dumb / ignorant enough to give them 3X or more market value. Then you likely get mediocre service at best from someone that could be an immigrant from "planet of the apes". Actually an insult to the fictional inhabitants of "planet of the apes" since they evolved into a logical intelligent society.
Then if that weren't enough, you may need to listen to one of the many "sympathy story scripts" designed to extract even more money from you. Even if the FL's were all beautiful LOL, Thai males have zero interest in listening to these stories, even if one is occasionally true.
Even if you find a sweet young thing at a disco, odds are against good service and enjoyment as even mainstream women are not particularly good lovers. Then you may encounter the "I hurt" or "Tickles" or "I finish I go" Lord knows why Thailand became so famous for the sex business, it's certainly not based on quality but probably quantity.
Fear Garden FL's would love to see them post a sign "Entry limited to first time in Thailand males"[/QUOTE]Well, While I agree with much of this post, I am puzzled. Did you actually go to these places and look for yourself? (You quote your "sources").
I don't agree that "Fear Garten" is for newbies in Thailand. I think most of the patrons are not newbies, but more so bargain hunters and guys that go there regularly. Some one correct me if I got the wrong impression. In years gone by I did use Thermae, but not so recently, and I think looks of girls there are better than Beer Garten. I have been to Beer Gerten a few times, but never actually succumbed. Getting a cheap nasty looking girl doesn't interest me. I have also been to Angelinas and Hi Class. Mostly I didn't take a girl, as same problem, no one with looks to interest me. However I did have one or two nice girls from there. I am always willing to take a look in Hi Class because its conveniently located close to Emmanuelle, Nataree, Colonze 2, and even Copa Cabana is a very short motorcycle ride away.
These days I tend to go regularly to La Belle, Amsterdam, Copa Cabana, with the last one being better value, but the first one having best girl selection. I also use several oilies but try to limit myself to superior looking girls. I doesn't excite me sexually to fuck ugly girls any more. I would only do it as a sympathy service.
Thailand has become famous for sex business for several reasons. From a punter point of view, its the very high probabilty of getting a reasonable GFE session compared to other countries, and a reasonable price. The attitude of girls is often better than westeners. Hookers in my home country are crap. Short session time and very mechanical. Lucky if you would find 1 in 10 to give you a good time. In Thailand, it won't break the bank to take a pretty and hot bodied girl away with you on a several day holiday, for guys with no GF / wife. This used to cost very little 20 years ago, but still possible today. This cannot be afforded in most of our home countries and finding the right girl would be tough.
From the general public point of view, its very unfortunate that we have the ugly Phat Pong shows and they are now creeping into Cowboy as well e. G. Long Gun. In Phuket and Pattaya we have the streets just full of bar girls and ladyboys, and in Sukhumwit there are hundreds of suspect massage parlours. The number of hookers in Bangkok must trully be an astonishing number. I have nothing against hookers myself, but the general public looks down on this sort of thing, being puritanical. Thailand gets more publicity for its P4P sex scene, simply because its better and more popular than most other countries.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1294035]The number of hookers in Bangkok must trully be an astonishing number. I have nothing against hookers myself, but the general public looks down on this sort of thing, being puritanical. Thailand gets more publicity for its P4P sex scene, simply because its better and more popular than most other countries.[/QUOTE]Yes, it is quite amazing the amount of hookers, not only the obvious ones but the part-timers or weekend warriors. (I guess this would be like struggling LA girls going to Vegas and prowling for johns on the strip)
In pursuit of free girls, I met a very cute girl from DAteInAsia and she seemed to be on the level, good girl who bust her ass at a real job. However, she was a bit reserved and didn't reveal much of herself and I noticed not the typical happy go lucky girl you often encounter when chatting with. But I still would have placed a small wager that she wasn't a hooker.
A few weeks later she's on Thaifriendly with some interesting pics and was dressed up "hooker style". I asked her where she was in one of those pics, and she replied,"Spasso's" LOL
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1293957]Now that we're on the subject, what cliche would characterize the USA? (I'm not saying Americans caus I don't include Canada and South America).
Enlighten me?[/QUOTE]"Ugly American" comes to mind.
Sometimes it fits; sometimes not. Clearly, when it comes to American politicians, it fits.
Americans are catching up to the French in that regard, but still have a long way to go.
(And I don't think any Canadian would appreciate being called an American; though admittedly from North America, I've never heard of one who refered to himself that way; nor have I ever heard of a South American refer to himself as an American, perhaps because they desire their own identity when it comes to nationality.)
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[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1294057]A few weeks later she's on Thaifriendly with some interesting pics and was dressed up "hooker style". I asked her where she was in one of those pics, and she replied,"Spasso's" LOL[/QUOTE]There may be very little difference in behaviour of "normal" girls and hookers, if they are of the part time variety and not in a very bad influencing environment like the bar. The main difference is purely whether they are looking for a guy just for the sex, or for something else, and whether they will accept money from the guy or not. There are border-line girls too who maybe would fuck for free but on the other hand may accept money too. Then there is another category of girl who is expecting money, but is still very picky about which guy she wants. She might be looking for a good time and some pocket money thrown in. I have the greatest respect for this last category, within the scope of P4P. Others are looking for a husband, but fucking the prospects and taking money to pay the bills till they get a husband hooked. I prefer the ones not looking for a husband.
If a girl really likes sex with Farangs, and has a poorly paid job, and not enough sex, why not become at least a part time freelancer and pick up guys, and some pocket money? Only problem with this plan really is the stigma of being labelled a "hooker". Its only the girls who don't mind fucking anyone at all, that I tend to respect less. E. G. An oily girl complains that she doesn't like a fair percentage of her agressive psycho customers, even regulars, but still works there because she is busy and the money is too good to pass up. Too many family members to support on her own.
I am not sure if your average "normal" Thai girl would really go on these dating web sites. It takes a certain personality to do so, which is probably not your average shy and demure Thai girl. Perhaps there would be strong disagreement of this statement, but I certainly know Thai girls who would not do this. Far too prim and proper.
Maybe just off thr topic.
Happy Father's Day. May all your children running around in Thailand give you their respect. At least I hope so, if they know who you are. :)
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1294165]I am not sure if your average "normal" Thai girl would really go on these dating web sites. It takes a certain personality to do so, which is probably not your average shy and demure Thai girl. Perhaps there would be strong disagreement of this statement, but I certainly know Thai girls who would not do this. Far too prim and proper.[/QUOTE]I strongly disagree with that as you expected some would do. I have run into many normal / traditional women from dating sites. Even in the Americas meeting someone online still carries a stigma, but this IS 2012 and for people who are comfortable with technology in addition to wanting to find a mate will put some of the prim and proper "traditional" shit to the wind and go for it. One of the first women I ever met on TLL was a bartender on the artist soi. I went to see her at her job and when she got off work she came and spent the night with me at the Nana. She was very shy though. She didn't allow any funny business. She even slept fully clothed. You think this girl works around this stuff everyday so surely...; but that was not the case. In addition one of my "gf" who I met on another website last year just said this to me the other day when I told her I wanted to go to her room instead of her always coming to mine,"If everybody see you at my room it's not good for me. It's not good for me because I'm a thai teacher and I'm a lady."
[QUOTE=Irish Mongrel; 1293998]Transited through Bangkok a couple of weeks ago and had a choice to make, stay at a hotel near the airport and be bored, or head to a hotel near Sukhumvit and have some fun. Went for the later choice and had some fun. Stayed in the Grand Majestic on Soi 2, good little hotel, close to the action and easy to get too / from the airport.
[U][B]Night 1[/B][/U]
Had plans to walk round as many bars as possible, having a couple of beers as I go, look for a girl of choice and bar fine at some point. Started in the pool bar just down from Annie's at about 4pm. Few OK looking girls there, and a few more started to arrive whilst I supped on a beer, but nothing of great interest, and most of the girls looked as if they had seen better days. Moved one bar down and generally the same. Decided it was time for food (the edible kind) and went round to the Irish Bar on Soi 4 and sat outside watching the world go by whilst having a few more beers and getting some sustenance into my system. Was a great place to watch the world go by, plenty of eye contact, plenty of approaches and certainly enough lookers walking up and down to the street to keep my interest up. Decided to move on to the bar at the entrance to Nana Plaza. Have sat in here on previous visits, always a good place to watch the talent going into Nana when it's too early to hit the clubs themselves. My plan had been to have a couple of beers then head into the Plaza. This plan disappeared when I started to talk to a couple of the "waitresses". Jai and Fon. Ended up stying in here for a few hours and then going WTF. And bar fined both of them. 600 baht for each. We headed off towards the hotel but decided to stop off at the pool bar I had previously been in. The look on the face of the girls who had seen me earlier was interesting. The old "missed chance". Anyway, after a couple of games of pool it was back to the hotel. No problems getting the girls into the hotel. Didn't even get asked for I'd. By the time we reached back to the hotel I had 4 1/2 hours before I had to head to the airport (had a 7am flight to catch) , so things needed to start happening quickly. I had a quick shower then headed to the bed, the girls headed off to the bathroom then it was a sort of free for all. They mixed up who was giving the BBBJ and who was going DATY. They banged heads charging for the BBBJ. What a problem. Had a couple of hours bouncing around in the bed, as you would do with two girls. Then decided to let one go, hell I needed at least one hours sleep before a dawn surprise and a taxi to the airport. Gave each of the girls 2000 baht. Would classify them as nothing spectacular but where a good laugh. Fon appeared to be the one who enjoyed herself more, certainly didn't need any lubrication!
[U][B]Night 2[/B][/U]
On my return back through, a few days later, I met up with a non-mongering friend for a few beers (he lives in Bangkok). I'd walked past the bar that I'd picked up Jai and Fon from, and they where there, said my hellos, then headed off to meet my mate. After a few beers we headed down towards Nana (he may not monger but he does have fun in the bars). Called back into the bar and the girls weren't there. Not that I was aiming to bar fine them again, but would have had some fun in the bar with them. The other girls in the bar tried to spin some stories that they had to go off and sort out some personal business and would be back, just had to wait around. Laughed that one off, do they really think we're that dumb. They'd been bar fined, why don't they just say that. Anyway, we had one drink then headed into the Plaza. First stop was Spankies. Have had a couple of fun non-mongering nights in here before and there was a few girls that recognized me. There were a few good looking girls, some I would happily have had some fun with, but not a lot. Had a few beers, drank some shots then my friend wanted to move on so we went next door to Angel Witch. The selection of girls in there was a lot better. After we ordered drink we pulled down a couple of girls from the stage. My mate was actually getting close to going home time and he knew I was hanging around, and I thought I'd made my choice for the night, untill she sat down beside me and smiled. Ahhhhhh, braces. She was a gorgeous looking girl, but sorry, I aint letting anybody near my tackle with braces on. So with my mate gone, and staring at braces I decided to drink up and move on. Next stop DC-10, OK, that's a mistake, small narrow bar, low quality girls, one beer, then next bar. Decided to hit Rainbow 4. Sat down, ordered a drink and admired the view. Lot's of good looking girls (in my view) , so decided it was just a matter of choosing one and heading off to the hotel. That decision was made easier when I was approached by a girl that I would classify as a 7 or 8, a few pleasantries and we're heading out the door at about 10pm. Now my biggest problem is I tend not to negotiate what I'm after and this girl ended up being what I would classify as a dud. My fault, so I can't complain. This was a CBJ girl, hell hadn't come across one of those in a long time. Not much to say about the time in bed. Couple of hours of rolling around, not star fish, but close. Not something I would repeat (can remember her face, but not her name). Anyway. 600baht + 2000baht and two hours later, it's midnight, and I'm lying on my bed, thinking it's 5 1/2 hours till I have to be at the airport. Smart brain says sleep, dumb brain says sod it, you're in Bangkok, you can sleep on the plane. So, it's up and at them, quick shower and change and it's off we go. I pretty much had a girl in mind. As mentioned earlier I had been in Spankies a few times (not including the current) , and the last time I was there with my non-mongering mate he pulled the girl with the biggest set of plastic fantastic's in the bar and had proceeded to fondle the hell out of them and her for a couple of hours. We had a drink with her earlier in the evening and I decided I need to have a go at them myselfmyself. So back to Spankies I went and there she was shuffling on the stage. She recognized me and came down and sat beside me. She drinks tequila shots for ladies drink, and had already had a few, so I'm dealing with a drunk girl. This can go one of two ways. Dud or over the top. Anyway, dumb brain engaged I bar fined her and off she went to get changed. She came back in what you could call a dress, with the fun bags just sitting out front. What a sight. Problem 1 arose at that point. She had washed off her make-up and she wasn't the best looking of girls underneath it. Definitely had suffered from an acne problem before. Dumb brain in gear. Let's go anyway. I've paid the bar fine. So off we went to the hotel. By the time we got back to the room I had a giggling girl ripping her clothes off as she walked thru the door. She charged into the bathroom for a quick shower, were I joined in and the fun really started. This girl was up for everything and anything. She drooped down to start a really nice BBBJ in the shower, but with all the beer and a two hour season just completed that was going to take a while, so I pulled her into the bedroom and decided to dine on some nice Thai pussy. This girl really got into that and it wasn't hard to figure out that she was enjoying herself. She was in full flow and grinding my head into her. The next thing she is grabbing my fingers and pushing them into her and then starts to play with her ass. Ah well, time to make up for the dud two hours ago, and to be less than subtle, and hell this is a forum for guys that want to know, by the time I was finished with this girl she could just about take a full hand in either her pussy or her ass and she was soaking the bed. By now I was up and raring to go and we had sex in many positions in both holes finally ripping of my condom and exploding over her back a couple off hours after we had hit the room. By now it was supposedly two hours to taxi time and we where exhausted. Decision made to see how quickly I can get thru BKK airport and decided that I was definitely up for a dawn strike with this one. She curled over beside me, with my hand just about inside her again and she went off to sleep. Two hours later, the alarm goes and it's repeat session. Must admit, was a really good night. The only girl I have had better with is a regular freebie I have in Jakarta who may as well be a porn star actress. So all in all, as far as looks go I would have given this girl a 5 to 6, but service up around the 9 to 10. Easy to pick out in Spankies. Very slim, massive set of silicon tits, and a massive tattoo on her left shoulder of a dragon wrapped around a tiger. Buy her some drinks. It was definitely worth it, and I would definitely go there again. Unfortunately I just don; t make it to Bangkok too often. (cost was the standard 600 + 2000)
On another point, with reference to some comments earlier in the thread, there where 3 "Indian" looking guys sitting in front of me, so if you have problems getting into some of the other bars head to Spankies. They seem to be less discriminatory. Have fun.[/QUOTE]I'd like to nominate this post as a Report of Distinction. Great great full report!
[QUOTE=Big Bob II;1294289]Great great full report![/QUOTE]Anyway, no need to quote the hole review
[QUOTE=Zauberfee;1294330]Anyway, no need to quote the hole review[/QUOTE]Yes its quite cumbersome on a tablet or mobile.
and fwiw regarding differentiating good girls from "bad" girls is to ask for her FB information and if there are many pics of her work, family, kids, and other wholesome pics, usually she's not a p4p type. if she has mostly webcam and party pics with few pics of her family, watch out! but then again, I usually don't care because i'm often only after sex, not a relationship, but i still like to know their motivations and prefer to have free sex with internet girls.
i would agree though, the typical thai girl isn't going to meet farang on the internet but everyone is different and you can't generalize too much. A few weeks ago i met a hot girl at Emporium, had some pizza with her, she was 30, nice tits, , but looked not a day over 21 and still had a schoolgirl voice. She came from money i could tell, had nice diamond rings, expensive haircut, and drove a Camry which is 40K USD in Thai.. she said her ex-bf was broke english teacher, to the point where she would always pay for everything, but then again its only her side of the story lol.. She said she prefers farang guys, so who knows some girls no matter what are wired differently. and guys who say that all Thai girls want money and are cut throat must surely be jaded or only try to have GF with bar girls or freelancers...
compared to Western chicks, it seems Thai girls go through their rebellion phase later in life,compared to the USA where in High School, many of the white girls banged the star running back or basketball player(usually a black guy) and then that same girl 10-15 years later on FB, she's married to a nerd accountant and has a stable soccer mom type of life..
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1294011]Dismal? That may be your best chance of having real sex, albeit higher risk, unless you take precautions. See Safe Sex thread for more details or elaboration.[/QUOTE]Actually I find the best sex to be in the oilies, no contest.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1294011]Domain? Fuck the Japs! Many girls here are hot, just offer substantially more than them, like 6000 baht, and you are good to go! But other than doing that, which I've never actually tried, I've had as good experiences here as BG, namely few and far between. So just walk up to any girl you love and say "Can I take you short time for 10 thousand baht" & report back here how it went. And thank me later. LOL. If she says ok, then say how about 5000, 3000, etc, and see how low she will go. LOL.
Maybe 10% of freelancers there & in the area nearby are worthy of repeats IME & IMO. At times, if you are lucky, you can pick up a stunner for that price, I. E. Young very cute petite uni girl in a school girl uniform.[/QUOTE]If I was single, I would probably be willing to put a bit more effort into things and effort it does require to get good performance out of these girls. Go to an ST Hotel and you are likely to get rushed service from most of the Tmae girls and I think 2k is a bit much for rushed service. For 1 hundred baht more I get 90 min at an oily, never rushed and pop as many times as I can.
Again, if I am in the mood for a quickie, then the Lot is not so bad. However, I have ended the last two sessions with Lot girls quite quickly because I heard,"Mai ow" too much.
Guess I expect a gal to perform like a porn star out of the gate, be experienced in seduction, and have a well developed skill set in the sack. I want nasty, wet, intense sex from the moment I hit the room. That is what I am paying for. I don't want to instruct and I don't want sweetness, romance, or inexperience.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1294409]Actually I find the best sex to be in the oilies, no contest.[/QUOTE]All things considered, I actually agree with that
[QUOTE=Zauberfee;1294330]Anyway, no need to quote the hole review[/QUOTE]Not only! Rather than nominating it, it is better to link it or post it at the Report of Distinction. :-)
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1294011]Domain? Fuck the Japs! Many girls here are hot, just offer substantially more than them, like 6000 baht, and you are good to go! But other than doing that, which I've never actually tried, I've had as good experiences here as BG, namely few and far between. So just walk up to any girl you love and say "Can I take you short time for 10 thousand baht" & report back here how it went. And thank me later. LOL. If she says ok, then say how about 5000, 3000, etc, and see how low she will go. LOL.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately it isn't quite that simple. I watched a farang try precisely this a week ago, and while the girl smiled and tried to be as polite as possible, she blew him off, just because she doesn't go with white guys. I used to live in Japan and speak fairly passable Japanese. One night I approached a girl in the Thermae and joked around with her in Japanese. She told me she wouldn't go with farangs because they were too big. Another girl told me the same, although with a bit of persistence in both Japanese and Thai, she ended up going with me, claiming I was her first white guy (and she seemed to become a farang lover after that!). Whatever the reason, there are certain girls in there that just won't go, irregardless of money. Then again, there is the girl who hangs out up near the bar every night who thinks she is Queen of the world (she speaks fluent Japanese and rumor has it that she used to rent a room by the month in the Ruamchit upstairs back in her heyday) and I know a farang who went up to her and asked her if she would go with farangs and she glared at him and said,"yeah, for 5000 baht."
What would really be funny would be to walk around the track in the Thermae wearing a Japanese mask and holding up a wad of cash.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1294447]All things considered, I actually agree with that[/QUOTE]Apart from Mango, Tulip etc. PSE places, I don't agree. I have been having some really great times with bar girls lately, carefully selected, they can be really into it, and sometimes nice all-nighter including morning sessions. Too many MP girls like a fuck for a limited duration, and are getting too much sex on a daily basis to really go wild.
I am not referring of course to some Rainbow 4 and Baccarat girls who are trying to get in as many STs in a night as possible. I am talking about girls with one customer per night, and sometimes less. Even caught a couple of bar-girls after they returned from long working breaks, which meant they were rather horny. Bar girls can miss the sex if they have been deprived for a while. Same for MP Girls, with not too many customers.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1294631]Apart from Mango, Tulip etc. PSE places, I don't agree. I have been having some really great times with bar girls lately, carefully selected, they can be really into it, and sometimes nice all-nighter including morning sessions. Too many MP girls like a fuck for a limited duration, and are getting too much sex on a daily basis to really go wild.
I am not referring of course to some Rainbow 4 and Baccarat girls who are trying to get in as many STs in a night as possible. I am talking about girls with one customer per night, and sometimes less. Even caught a couple of bar-girls after they returned from long working breaks, which meant they were rather horny. Bar girls can miss the sex if they have been deprived for a while. Same for MP Girls, with not too many customers.[/QUOTE]It is not the question if a girl gets sex on a daily basis to make her good in bed. Some girls are naturally horny all the time otherwise called as nymphomaniacs. If you happen to barfine her or take her you are lucky.
There are others who are comfortable getting sex once a month or later. Some others forgot about sex altogether because of issues. It is not true that you meet any woman and she will like sex.
On our mongering trips we want to cram as many sexual contact as much as possible. At the same time if you will with a girl you maybe just happy having once a day or less frequently.
When I barfine I always ask the girl when she had sex last. Some are honest but not all. If the girl did not have sex a long time it is likely she wants sex many times.
In spite of the girls being available for sex for money there are girls who rarely get barfined. It has everything to do with the looks and body. Everybody want a beatifull girl in bed. As a monger I believe if you lower your standards little your sexual experience will be more GFE and better.
Sometimes I do barfine girls who are not good looking. They really appreciate to be with you.
[QUOTE=Oldian;1294481]What would really be funny would be to walk around the track in the Thermae wearing a Japanese mask and holding up a wad of cash.[/QUOTE]And hang a small dick out of your pants. That will surely attract them! :)
From Oldian: Another girl told me the same, although with a bit of persistence in both Japanese and Thai, she ended up going with me, claiming I was her first white guy (and she seemed to become a farang lover after that!
Thanks for taking one for the team!
I know I'm going to get flamed and RTFF'ed, but I wonder if anyone knows the current barfine and LT rates for dancers at The Dollhouse on Soi Cowboy. Seems like the LT rates seem to be about 2000 to 3000 baht (for the priciest joints).
Planning a mission Wednesday night, probably Thursday, with a girl I barfined, sheesh two years ago. Mentioned in postings previously what another esteemed ISGer termed "reunion sex" (I had helped her out by sending US $200 during the floods. Am not expecting "repayment" other than in, hopefully, more intimate sex.
In an email to her I inquired about the barfine, which she said is 600 baht at the club. No mention of LT price, so any serious suggestion of what would be reasonable (I am not looking, or expecting a freebie; the girl needs to make her money). I harbor no intentions of a relationship with a WG and will move on to Patts for a week of diving, of both sorts, and bliss.)
Thanks guys
[QUOTE=Wildhawk;1294822]I wonder if anyone knows the current barfine and LT rates for dancers at The Dollhouse on Soi Cowboy. Seems like the LT rates seem to be about 2000 to 3000 baht (for the priciest joints).[/QUOTE]I never barfined one from the Dollhouse, but I guess all agogo's in Soi Cowboy will be more or less the same price level and from my own experience, it seems the LT price varies a lot even between ladies in the same agogo: from Suzie Wong I had dancers go with me for as "cheap" as 1000 baht LT and as "expensive" as 3000 LT. No objective reason why one charged triple of the other.
So I think 2000 baht for LT is a nice average.
1000 LT? In Cowboy? What, in 1995?
Even 2000 is hard to get, as far as I can tell.
[QUOTE=Wildhawk; 1294822]Planning a mission Wednesday night, probably Thursday, with a girl I barfined, sheesh two years ago. Mentioned in postings previously what another esteemed ISGer termed "reunion sex" (I had helped her out by sending US $200 during the floods. Am not expecting "repayment" other than in, hopefully, more intimate sex.
In an email to her I inquired about the barfine, which she said is 600 baht at the bar. (I am not looking, or expecting a freebie; the girl needs to make her money).[/QUOTE]You might not expect a freebie but it might be good if she gives it.
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1294856]1000 LT? In Cowboy? What, in 1995? Even 2000 is hard to get, as far as I can tell.[/QUOTE]I think 3000 would be an achievement. All gogo have a sort of "union prices", or cartel. They are also owned by the same company. One might get some discount with a repeat but I wouldn't voucher that much.
[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1294856]1000 LT? In Cowboy? What, in 1995?
Even 2000 is hard to get, as far as I can tell.[/QUOTE]Depends what girl maybe? I'm sure there are cheaper girls for those who want them and have taste different than most. It has been a stable price of 4000 (well, sometimes maybe 3000) for a LT and 2000 ST for me in the popular bars like Rainbow 1-4 in Nana or Baccara in Cowboy. Sometimes they wold say "up to you" but I just give them the standard rate (which is typically ST so 2000). It much depends on the girl too. Some would only show up there when willing and not even care much about their work at go-go bars and instead try to get in touch ith their customers after (or before) their working hours for a different kind of encounter.
What I'm surprised (and happy, of course) about is that this hasn't change since at least 2006 (when I first got to try go-gos). I hop it will stay that way.
[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1294856]1000 LT? In Cowboy? What, in 1995?
Even 2000 is hard to get, as far as I can tell.[/QUOTE]Keep in mind that even though some of the girls act like their is a set price list there are tons of variables. In my experience with all types of sex workers a lot comes down to what they feel they can get from you, if they have other options and how firm you are willing to stand on your first figure.
Also keep in mind that there are different types of working girls. The ones who want money are a bit harder to negotiate with than the ones who need the money. A woman who has a sponsor (or even regulars) has less reason to give you a non-tourist price than the woman who has rent due or a genuinely sick relative.
Trust me if you act like a decent human being and can exercise a bit of patience, you can generally get the price you want.
[QUOTE=Joe Looking;1294893]Trust me if you act like a decent human being and can exercise a bit of patience, you can generally get the price you want.[/QUOTE]So for hot girls in the popular gogos (bacarra, the rainbows) you're saying you can get 2K LT? I bet that they won't go below 3K. I might give it a shot though, since I'm such a nice guy, wear clean underwear, and shower twice a day.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1294907]So for hot girls in the popular gogos (bacarra, the rainbows) you're saying you can get 2K LT? I bet that they won't go below 3K. I might give it a shot though, since I'm such a nice guy, wear clean underwear, and shower twice a day.[/QUOTE]Actually, it is possible to get 2k in these gogos, but you have to be a very regular customer, then maybe with the "Rapport" established, the girl could go for 2k.
I never ask for prices, usually go with the flow. If she leaves after the 1st Shot then she gets 1k (+ the barfine) but if she stays LT then it's 3k. Never had an issue.
The girl I paid 1k ST wasn't very happy, but I told her that we agreed LT so if she stay all night she will get 3k but if she leaves now she gets 1k.
She took the 1k (probably had another guy waiting with 3k in hand too).
[QUOTE=Joe Looking; 1294893]Keep in mind that even though some of the girls act like their is a set price list there are tons of variables. In my experience with all types of sex workers a lot comes down to what they feel they can get from you, if they have other options and how firm you are willing to stand on your first figure.
Also keep in mind that there are different types of working girls. The ones who want money are a bit harder to negotiate with than the ones who need the money. A woman who has a sponsor (or even regulars) has less reason to give you a non-tourist price than the woman who has rent due or a genuinely sick relative.
Trust me if you act like a decent human being and can exercise a bit of patience, you can generally get the price you want.[/QUOTE]
There is truth in here. It also depends on whether the girl is usually in high demand. I was looking at that slim, tall and super-cute girl in Rainbow 1 in Nana. It was 20.30 (early) and she got barfined by a Jap guy nimutes later. The mamasan said she gets paid 10000THB (ten thousand). Day after I was there at the same time (after 20.00 hours). She again (along with another similar hottie) got barfined before the action got to build up. Again by a Jap who took TWO girls. In my personal oood luck lol. They probably won't even talk to you unless you're a Japanese or politely offer them 10K Baht to begin with.
I asked the mamasan how much they get and she again said ten thousand. Just didn't understand if that's LT or ST or was it just a way to say that she doesn't go with farangs. Anyway, they got barfined in MINUTES by the Japanese customers. I reaaaaaaly doubt anyone could find it easy to negotiate about anything with such girls, not to mention that they seemed complete starfish and probably would not go with anyone except Japanese (maybe also Koreans and Chinese?).
The girls I typically get are also targeted by the Japanese: true Asian slim, petite built, cute / pretty face and the younger the better. I do get girls like that without too many problems in most cases (I'm still quite young, dress well and act polite along with not trying to be tight or at least look so) but I know if I hesitate too long she will be taken by someone else (most probably a Japanese or some young white guy). It did happen a fe times in the past. And those girls ARE taken EVERY night. It's just that sometimes they don't show up at work and choose by themselves when to come or even with whom to go. They are not desperate. Therefore I am not in a position to negotiate and they know it because if I won't pay her 2000ST / 4000LT someone else will two minutes later.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1294921]Actually, it is possible to get 2k in these gogos, but you have to be a very regular customer, then maybe with the "Rapport" established, the girl could go for 2k.
I never ask for prices, usually go with the flow. If she leaves after the 1st Shot then she gets 1k (+ the barfine) but if she stays LT then it's 3k. Never had an issue.
The girl I paid 1k ST wasn't very happy, but I told her that we agreed LT so if she stay all night she will get 3k but if she leaves now she gets 1k.
She took the 1k (probably had another guy waiting with 3k in hand too).[/QUOTE]If you're nice, polite and she likes you you can even go as low as 0 for ST and LT after a couple of days. Just pay the barfine. Therefore "negotiating" to 3K for LT after being a "regular" customer isn't really much of an achievement I should say.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1294921]Actually, it is possible to get 2k in these gogos, but you have to be a very regular customer, then maybe with the "Rapport" established, the girl could go for 2k.
I never ask for prices, usually go with the flow. If she leaves after the 1st Shot then she gets 1k (+ the barfine) but if she stays LT then it's 3k. Never had an issue.
The girl I paid 1k ST wasn't very happy, but I told her that we agreed LT so if she stay all night she will get 3k but if she leaves now she gets 1k.
She took the 1k (probably had another guy waiting with 3k in hand too).[/QUOTE]Bravo Nic! 1 shot 1k. I like that stance.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1294660]And hang a small dick out of your pants. That will surely attract them! :)[/QUOTE]They say 2 out of 3 is not bad. Where do I get the mask?
Last November a friend who is oriental was wondering around Nana. He was being quoted 4000 be for LT. This was in the Rainbow 4 bar. That is totally crazy. I have not ventured in to a rainbow bar since as one time the door guy acted like an ass so I told him to put it where the sun doesn't shine. Have no interest in going back. Actually I don't care for Nana itself. To many other places to do my shopping.
I think Nic is correct. Get to be a regular and the picture will change for you. 3000 baht is a good LT price, very fair and all. Still, it is on the high end and must be earned. 1500 to 2000 is also fair for ST. Again negotiate, see what happens.
3000 LT is of course fair. That's what I pay too, and it's not hard to get it. That's not the same as the 2000 or 1000 for LT that was mentioned. If someone gets that often, do report.
I just had a great time with another Nana gogo girl. Great performance and she offered a massage afterwards. That lasted for 20 minutes. So much for gogo girls being bad.
Damage: 1500 ST + 250 tip.
The fun with ladies in central Bangkok has waned over last 10 years and if you remember how unsophisticated the women were there then.
Well now the ones in the flesh trade over there are about as unsophisticated as your can get and now its alot harder to find the grey area girl next door hanging out in the zone.
Many regular girls dont want to venture over there because of police sweeps and the dodgyness of the area.
If you like ladyboys you'll be happy The area offers more feminine chicks with penis than anywhere else.
If your old school and been banging some old long term chicks your in good standing unless any of them have dropped off the map.
Alot more undersirables are hanging around in central red light area now.
And so many Japanese and a cross section of Jap only girls making that situation frustrating and prices up in places like Therme.
None the less for whatever reason there have been customers than have facilitated bringing the price for nookie up as much as 100%.
In some respects Bangkok is a nicer city now with more malls and increased rapid transit access.
Even expanded skywalks along BTS. If they can connect the skywalks thru out the place will be much better. I have even seen a new subway tunnel connection to new mall.
Younger guys will do pretty good hooking up on websites or normal venues because girls are less interested in age gap then ever before.
For the most part other than professional service oriented relationships I would suggest your don't bother trying to find a soul mate in the red light district.
For any Xpats living in the region the sence of Xenaphobia is as much or more than ever. The bright light of business ideas you may have going off in your head resemble to the locals something more like a target. Random police searches of foreigners are prevalent and give the message that your not welcome in Thailand.
Maybe I should rethink my position. PM the bars name and I will take a look in November. You did great work at 1500 + tip.
[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1294856]1000 LT? In Cowboy? What, in 1995?
Even 2000 is hard to get, as far as I can tell.[/QUOTE]Let me check my records again.
Yep, on 14/6/2011, no. 63,"Kob" from Suzie Wong. A ladydrink + 600 baht BF + 1000 baht LT + 200 baht tip since she was really a good performer. She allowed the usual 3 pops: 2 before going to sleep and one in the morning. I noted: "good sucker; doggy, reverse cowgirl and cowgirl".
[QUOTE=Globotto; 1295024]And so many Japanese and a cross section of Jap only girls making that situation frustrating and prices up in places like Therme.
.[/QUOTE]All this Japan bashing is getting old. Haha. But for all you guys who want an edge, just go buy some Gatsby hair wax and fix yourself up like a hansum Japanese guy.
Tutorial here:
[url]http://youtu.be/Usyy2wIb3q8[/url]
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1294907]So for hot girls in the popular gogos (bacarra, the rainbows) you're saying you can get 2K LT? I bet that they won't go below 3K. I might give it a shot though, since I'm such a nice guy, wear clean underwear, and shower twice a day.[/QUOTE]If you tell her that you have dirty underwear and she's the right girl, she will go for 1.5.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1295092]fix yourself up like a hansum Japanese guy.[/QUOTE]Now all you need is some big eyed purple haired buxom hentai girl in a skimpy school uniform!
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1295166]Where do these goofballs get their prices from=mr ententional?
Black and anorexic? Old with 5 kids?[/QUOTE]Racist. Epic fail.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1295166]Where do these goofballs get their prices from=mr ententional?
Isn't 1500-2ooo more appro. For short time.
Do you guys go for girls with no tits? Black and anorexic? Old with 5 kids? Or just the bottom of the barrel types?[/QUOTE]No, it was a young, small, slim and hard-bodied dancer from Suzie Wong. If ever you have been to Suzie Wong, which I doubt very much, you know that even their "bottom-of-the-barrel" types are way above what you will ever find in your bed, even if you pay jap-rates.
[QUOTE=Mackin; 1295017]Last November a friend who is oriental was wondering around Nana. He was being quoted 4000 be for LT. This was in the Rainbow 4 bar. That is totally crazy. I have not ventured in to a rainbow bar since as one time the door guy acted like an ass so I told him to put it where the sun doesn't shine. Have no interest in going back. Actually I don't care for Nana itself. To many other places to do my shopping.
I think Nic is correct. Get to be a regular and the picture will change for you. 3000 baht is a good LT price, very fair and all. Still, it is on the high end and must be earned. 1500 to 2000 is also fair for ST. Again negotiate, see what happens.[/QUOTE]I paid 2500B LT in Feb last year at Nana for a girl from DC10. I cannot recall her name for the life of me, but she was a very petite little thing. She wasn't exactly what you'd describe as hot, actually very plain, but more than made up for that in the sack. She was my first bargirl and bar fine. She won't be the last.
I really had no idea what I was doing though, I probably spent far too long [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]-farting around, and I ended up buying quite a few drinks before barfining her. At the end though, she was MORE than happy with 2500 (maybe could've pushed for 2000).
In future, I think I'll just go ST. I'm not one for sex early in the morning, and being a greedy bugger, I prefer to roll around in a bed by myself when I'm asleep.
BKK in September! Viva!
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1295168]Sir der you are smart boy. Hot chciks don't negotiate.
They don't need to!
Now cold chicks-negotiate away-I bet you get the anus for extra roi baht. LOL.[/QUOTE]Yes they do, especially if you treat them right and get them on the right night or in the right moment. Not worth arguing over, you keep paying 3-4000, we will keep paying 1-2000. At 15 times out a month, that amount in extra baht goes an incredibly long way. It astounds me that guys are that naive that they think they actually get better service by paying more. Then again, there's a sucker born every minute.
Wolven that's some neat record-keeping you are doing. I guess anything is possible. I've never tried to go lower than 1500 ST. Maybe I will now.
Mackin: you can get 1500 ST quite easily in any of the Nana bars except the Rainbows. I don't go to the Rainbows anymore. The smaller bars are cheaper and have better service.
[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1295260]Wolven that's some neat record-keeping you are doing. I guess anything is possible. I've never tried to go lower than 1500 ST. Maybe I will now.
Mackin: you can get 1500 ST quite easily in any of the Nana bars except the Rainbows. I don't go to the Rainbows anymore. The smaller bars are cheaper and have better service.[/QUOTE]In my experience there is no hard and fast formula for arriving at what you pay in go go's. It depends on.
How popular the girl is, she will know from experience what she is capable of earning per night which will depend on the time of the evening, how busy the joint is and what nationalities are in. As mentioned elsewhere Japanese do tend to pay more as prices back home are much higher than Thailand so 5000 or even 10000 for top class talent is acceptable. Less popular girls have obviously lower expectations and some will gladly accept 1500 for ST or even LT if the chemistry is right.
The time of the evening is important. A girl may refuse 3000 early in the evening believing that she can hook a 5000 "John". However as the midnight hour approaches and things are not looking that promising she lowers her expectations and might depending on how badly she needs money end up accepting 2000 or even less.
While girls will have standards for who they will go with by and large these are not particularly stringent. Believing a girl will lower her price because you are well dressed polite young and "hansom" with a sparkling witty personality that she finds irresistable is self delusion and just does not fit the fact that these girls are working not socialising. Why would she when it costs her money. We all like to think we are attractive to them but you are just another face in the crowd of which she sees thousands and rarely if ever remembers any of them after they leave.
Finally it is true a girl will quote a higher price than that which she is prepared to accept so it is worth mentioning that you usually pay such and such and if that's acceptable ok if not thank you and have a nice evening. If what you are offering is close to her expectation it's a done deal.
[QUOTE=Oldian;1295256]- - Not worth arguing over, you keep paying 3-4000, we will keep paying 1-2000.[/QUOTE]This is the big question: if he pays, if he mongers.
[QUOTE=Oldian;1295256]Yes they do, especially if you treat them right and get them on the right night or in the right moment. Not worth arguing over, you keep paying 3-4000, we will keep paying 1-2000. At 15 times out a month, that amount in extra baht goes an incredibly long way. It astounds me that guys are that naive that they think they actually get better service by paying more. Then again, there's a sucker born every minute.[/QUOTE]Never ceases to amaze me either Oldian. I am astounded at what these folks have done to the working girl market. Just an ego thing. If a gal won't take good money, walk away, there are lots of 'them out there.
I remember being in Nom Pehn in '99 and ran into a friend I met in Bangkok who had recently moved there. First thing he said to me was,"This is the price for ST and this is the price for LT. Don't pay more as you will ruin it for all of us." And he was / is right. But again, here in Bangkok we are dealing with big egos from Farangs and big face for Asians. Of course it does not help the gal's attitudes either.
[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1295260]Wolven that's some neat record-keeping you are doing. I guess anything is possible. I've never tried to go lower than 1500 ST. Maybe I will now.[/QUOTE]It must have been "beginner's luck" as she was actually the very first girl I ever barfined from an agogo. Not knowing the usual prices, I opened with a 1000 baht offer and she simply accepted. Of course I am extremely hansum and sweet (wink, wink)
Now that I think of it, she actually came to me and quickly proposed to go with me; I asked her what was her price for LT and she said "up to you" and then I offered 1000 baht.
And I stopped keeping records now: I have a regular Thai GF and I think she would think it very strange if I would keep records of every time we made love.
[QUOTE=Oldian;1295256]Yes they do, especially if you treat them right and get them on the right night or in the right moment. Not worth arguing over, you keep paying 3-4000, we will keep paying 1-2000. At 15 times out a month, that amount in extra baht goes an incredibly long way. It astounds me that guys are that naive that they think they actually get better service by paying more. Then again, there's a sucker born every minute.[/QUOTE]Right night of the month. IOW on their day off at the mall, or "that time of the month" when they are in a mood.
Right moment. IOW drunk or high out of their mind. That should be fun in the sack.
Not worth arguing over. Yet you keep repeating yourself, without addressing points already made.
Extra baht goes a long way. Yeah, no need to waste time or effort talking to the girl or playing the game or games with her, which is another kind of payment, so I'm happy to pay a bit more. But keep doing it your way, if that makes you happy.
Hot chicks from Rainbow 4 LT for 1000 baht? This whole discussion is rather useless without pics, receipts & videotape. By hot do you mean the photo thread kind of hot, which is at best average, or a truly smoking stunner.
Also, lets not forget adding other costs to the alleged story of 1000 Baht, besides all your hard work sharking in bars for hours, IOW drinks and bar fines.
BTW, personally, I've picked up freelancers for 1000 ST off the street that were hotter than anything I've seen in Rainbow 4. With no 600 baht BFs or drinks involved, of course.
Did my arriving 16. 6 and leaving 20. 6 trip to Bangkok. Have some regulars I usualy meet but this time I left them out of it and did an all freelance long weekend except from 1 lady (who I met in Novotel Airport hotel my last day Tuesday 19. 6 as my flight to Oslo departed at 0050am Wednesday 20. 6 I have met her a few times before actually and never had her in the sack but telling her I just had a few hours in BKK before leaving realy did the trick.
Arrival 16. 6 at 06:15am. I was horny as hell as I was lucky to sit next to a stunning girl, called Natkanda, on my 11hrs flight from Oslo to Bangkok. We had a good chat and she could tell me she had been on a Visa run in Norway for almost 3 months. Now she was heading back and it seems she was ready for new adventures. The guy she been visiting in Norway she claimed was now going to sponsor her with 40000Bht per months so she could leave her work and she smiled. She was actually going to her parents place near Udon Thani for a few days before heading back to work in Phuket so now meeting for me and her. I got her contact details if I ever come to the Phuket area so I guess her sponsor was not so lucky after all.
Checking in to Grand President soi 11 around 7:30. Am and had a shower and a few hours of sleep. Went for a walk.
Girl 1. 16. 6 around 11am.
Street walker called herself Boi (picked up from across the street from Landmark and went to my hotel)
Asked for 1000bht.
25 years old. 160cm. 6 in looks (slim but firm body small tits but cute face) and 7 in performance.
Did everything without complaints and gave good service in general.
Fair English.
Added 500bht because she did Anal as well and CIF.
1 pop and one great and long lasting BBBJ.
Girl 2 16/17. 6 (met her around 11pm and we head back to hotel around 4am)
Freelance called herself Bunny met her in Climax. Also ran into one of my regulars and she tried to create a drama saying she lost face and all that BS. But saved the situation with assistance from some management present.
No price discussed.
23years old. 155cm. 8 in looks (very slim and sexy thing, nice boobs and a horny look) and 8 in performance.
Gave me a wild ride in every thinkable position and very into it and very wet.
Decent English.
No anal (but I did not ask so don't know if she will go through with it or not)
Stayed for around 10hrs then I had other plans (at least I told her so)
Many pops and finished twice. Could finish where I wanted on / in her body (up to me). Nice BJ as well.
Did not ask for money as she claimed she was grateful for me buying some bottles of vodka / whiskey to her friends (and also we drank out of it of course)
I promised I would see her another time and I will because she was a great fuck (she had what we call pussy control)
Girl 3 17. 6 (around 5pm. 8pm)
Girl called Nan met at Beergarden. Just a little talk one beer and head for my hotel.
No price discussed.
32years old according to her I'd, around 150cm. 6 in looks and 7 in performance.
Fair English.
Almost the best BBBJ I ever had and I came in her mouth (even not so much sperm as I was a bit dry from the performance earlier that day). But FS not so great but she did anal so all in all 7. Very cute in face but had some stretches from her birth so 6 in looks.
I gave her 2000bht.
Girl 4 17/18. 6 (from around 11 pm and went back to hotel around 3-4am)
Girl called herself Nat. Met her in Spasso.
No price discussed.
33years old. 170cm. 8 in looks and 9 in performance (10 should be high)
A stunner. Nothing to complain about. Fun to be with, spoke great English, nice silicon boobs and ass.
Even had her own Honda so I saved cabfare, hehe.
She did anal and seem to love it as well (again maby good acting) and she was screaming so I almost got afraid.
Had many pops and nice blowjobs but not so many ejaculations as understandable.
She stayed until I had other plans around 4pm.
Gave her 5000bht.
Girl 5 18/19. 6 (the usual time frame)
Girl called herself Kig. Met her in Mix Club.
No price discussed. Ran into one other regular but avoided a nasty situation as she knows I am butterflying a bit.
28years. 165cm. 6/5 (looks / performance). She looked maybe as an 7 in the "dark" but as lights came on not to special.
Not so much English so communication difficult.
All in all an OK choice but nothing more. Did the usual stuff but I think because communication not so good it affected her performance and I was tired and would also save my self to later the same day.
She went around 10 when we woke up.
I gave her 2000bht.
Girl 6 19. 6 (last day from 1pm. 10pm)
Thawanrat is her name. 33 years. 173cm. Arrived to my new hotel, Novotel airport. She lives with her family in the outskirts of Bangkok (not so far from airport) and she does not like to drive into the Bangkok traffic.
We have met on several occasions on dates before (met her in Dia long time ago) but never did any thing but kissing so far. Now I knew it was time and so did she because we talked about this for long time now. Had to lie a bit to her about why I was in BKK "just for a few hours". She stayed until I had to leave for checking in. And when I tried to give her a money gift she reacted and would not accept anything like this. I know her parents are doctors and she lives with them so she is probably well off I guess. My bad.
No points because this could be something more as she has many qualities I like in a woman for maybe a relationship. Who knows.
But she is all good girl and as a beginning the sex was great but also up for improvement.
Nice to arrive 20. 6 in Norway at 7am and straight for work. I had a shower before boarding but felt I smelled pussy all over all day. Nice weekend though.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1295167]Genereally speaking- no you can't get the price you want.[/QUOTE]Okay, whatever price you want within reason. Obviously you will probably never find a chick to go for 30; however, the majority of the chicks (unless they spend a ton on clothes, shoes, trinkets.) are not spending over 1500 / week. That said, offering a woman 1000-2000 for LT is more than within reason.
The problem with most men is that they do not try to negotiate, the woman says a price and their nose is so wide open they just go along with it. Many men also save the whole year to go to LOS for 1-2 weeks so don't care about money and others compare price to what it would cost back home not what it should be in SEA.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1295166]Where do these goofballs get their prices from=mr ententional?
Isn't 1500-2ooo more appro. For short time.
Do you guys go for girls with no tits? Black and anorexic? Old with 5 kids? Or just the bottom of the barrel types?[/QUOTE]Unless I'm going to some esoteric brothel for the adventure or am really hard up I never pay to fuck a chick I am not attracted to on some level.
No 1500-2000 is not appropriate for ST IMO. Perhaps back when ST meant she stays until you tell her to leave as long as you let her go early enough to get a taxi home or to get home safely, that would have been reasonable. Now ST is generally one shot and many girls who want as many ST customers as possible want you to be done in 15-20 minutes. Here's another way to look at it, compare the 1500-2000 you pay for ST to the 300-700 my friend pays for ST for girls at massage parlors who to his tastes are just as attractive as go-go girls. He's also not getting the rush job that many ST go-go customers get because when he goes to a massage place to fuck if it does happen it happens within the first 15 minutes giving him 45 minutes to do the deed, it's not happening and just enjoys the massage. For those of you in disbelief, he reported to me that all of his Thai friends (he is a black guy) get the same prices.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1294907]So for hot girls in the popular gogos (bacarra, the rainbows) you're saying you can get 2K LT? I bet that they won't go below 3K. I might give it a shot though, since I'm such a nice guy, wear clean underwear, and shower twice a day.[/QUOTE]I'm not saying I could at those particular places, but I am definitely the guy who would try. I've also become disciplined enough that most times I can walk away if I don't get the price I want. Hot is also pretty subjective.
You also have to keep in mind that even at the most popular places not everyone is constantly or even regularly bar fined. Der Tourist mentioned a couple of girls who seemed to always get bar fined early by Japanese guys. Yes, these types may be hard to negotiate with (unless you catch them on a night when they want something different) but the overly in demand girls can also tend to be the worst performers because many men fuck them for their looks and not their performance.
Here's some food for thought. If every man who went to Soi Cowboy and Nana agreed to offer and only pay 200 BF + 700 ST and 400 BF + 1200 LT, how long do you think it would take the women to adjust to the prices. I would guess one week because for many of them it is their job, not just a way to supplement income, and making 700-2000 / day is still better than they would get otherwise. The women quote the prices they quote because history has shown that they can find men willing to pay those prices. Guys like me pay less because we are willing to walk away, are more conscious about the money and perhaps are able to, on some subconscious level, spot the ones who are willing to negotiate.
I once met a guy who be it a go-go, beer bar or night club has no problem getting women for free or rock bottom prices (read as enough to send home or buy food for a few days). His secret was that not only did he speak Thai very well, but he understood how to make himself more appealing to Thai women. He was able to joke with them, in Thai, and quickly build up attraction and rapport. He also had the uncanny ability to recognize who was into him or just fun to be around and who was a clinger on. He could also get the ones who were just fun to talk him up to the ones who were interested which he said helped make things much easier. Dude even got me laid and when I asked the girl how much the next day all she said was can we go get a massage.
Many of the strategies that work for me and other guys to get great deals do not work in high volume places. However, the inefficacy of the strategy has more to do with the attitudes of the women than it does the low prices that result from the strategy. There are tons of hot chicks working at bars and go-gos who would happily fuck the same guy every night for a week if all he did was pay the bar fine, her rent for the month and give some money for food because it gives her the sense of consistency and being taken care of that many women want. On the flip side, there are women who just want money money money and for them they will only go with the highest paying customer who makes them work the least.
[QUOTE=Joe Looking; 1295562]Okay, whatever price you want within reason. Obviously you will probably never find a chick to go for 30; however, the majority of the chicks (unless they spend a ton on clothes, shoes, trinkets.) are not spending over 1500 / week. That said, offering a woman 1000-2000 for LT is more than within reason.
The problem with most men is that they do not try to negotiate, the woman says a price and their nose is so wide open they just go along with it. Many men also save the whole year to go to LOS for 1-2 weeks so don't care about money and others compare price to what it would cost back home not what it should be in SEA.
Unless I'm going to some esoteric brothel for the adventure or am really hard up I never pay to fuck a chick I am not attracted to on some level.
No 1500-2000 is not appropriate for ST IMO...[/QUOTE]Would be very interested in which "massage place" you can get laid for 300-700 baht. I have been coming here for over 20 years and lived here for the past 10 and frequent oilies on a regular basis. There is a standard 500/1000/1500 pricing structure for HJ / BJ / FS. Cheap sex is available in Thailand but in a one off situation you are talking late night desperation with a provider that desperately needs whatever coin she get her hands on and so you are probably in the equivalent of crack working girl territory. The girlfriend types are out there but if they are attractive you will usually end up paying one way or another. It always comes back to the money honey.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1295170]Sing a pore guys are paying way more than 2000 long time rates.
Again how is 2k justified long time when short time is 2k? You guys must like ugly wimmin. LOL.[/QUOTE]That's a pretty good deal for about 3 minutes of pumping! I can see why girls would love the Singapore guys.
[QUOTE=Joe Looking;1295562]Okay, whatever price you want within reason.[/QUOTE]I think that we also need to separte the guy who has saved money for a mongering vacation in Thailand and wants to get the best out of the days he spends there, rather than out of the money he spends, from the guys who either live there (expatriates) or go very often for various reasons (business, lay-over, happily and wealthy retired who can spend few weeks every 3-4 months). The former will not care much if spending 1000 or 2000. It is still within his reasonable budget (unless he is a hardened heap charlie and some are only for the reason of bargaining rather than saving, let's face it). Let's say he pays the double of whatever is the rate, for 1 week or 10 days. It is not going to be a killer for his wallet. He will have peace of mind, happy to monger and add more girls to his portfolio, He also cannot afford to keep on walking away because of the price. Hey, it is his holiday, it is his bunch of days. Any day / night he "misses", it is one less he will take a memory back home. Travelled all the way (air ticket, lodging, food, ie fix costs) and then not score to save what? 5000b? 10, 000b? These guys are also those either willing to score every night or even multiple time a day (then the unit price factor might have some influence, I agree) No way he is going to think too much about the local price level. He will reckonthat 2000b. Is a good bargain 8for him, his budget and comaprison level, that is also why he goes to Thailand and doesn't monger at home, far more expensive and less fun). Goes to Thailand once a year for 10 days. Those 10 days will be intense for him. But maybe the only 10 days of the year. So why to bother for an extra cost of 10000b? Can you blame him? Different story is the long term or repeated resident. Goes out one night, looks around. Doesn't find anything at his wallet level, walks away, maybe with a drink in his memory, few hours spent out of home / room, mission nearly achieved. On to th enext time, maybe the night after, maybe 3-4 nights after. Time and chances are on his side. Apart few guys, there is no need to score every single night out, every single night of the week (can he also score? Where is going to end this way? A sex pscho?). So he is the one saying, either I get her at 1000 or no way. He doesn't care if he doesn't get her. There will be another time he can get one and he'll be happy. So different stories for different guys and one cannot blame one's behaviour till he fits in his shoes (and even then.). Each one his own. Since the offer and demand are so wide and broad I am not so sure prices can be affected iether way. There might be areas where a (tourist) price might take the lead. Well, the "experts" will stay away from those areas. Be it. And let the tourist enjoy his 10 days break at "double" price, being this still a fraction of what he pays at home (and not accounting the different approach to p4p existing in SEA, mixed with the general level of providers).
[QUOTE=Joe Looking;1295562]Here's some food for thought. If every man who went to Soi Cowboy and Nana agreed to offer and only pay 200 BF + 700 ST and 400 BF + 1200 LT, how long do you think it would take the women to adjust to the prices. I would guess one week because for many of them it is their job, not just a way to supplement income, and making 700-2000 / day is still better than they would get otherwise. The women quote the prices they quote because history has shown that they can find men willing to pay those prices. Guys like me pay less because we are willing to walk away, are more conscious about the money and perhaps are able to, on some subconscious level, spot the ones who are willing to negotiate.[/QUOTE]That is exactly the point quite a few of us are trying to make. It is the guys that set the tone for the market.
[QUOTE=Joe Looking; 1295562]Here's some food for thought. If every man who went to Soi Cowboy and Nana agreed to offer and only pay 200 BF + 700 ST and 400 BF + 1200 LT, how long do you think it would take the women to adjust to the prices. I would guess one week because for many of them it is their job, not just a way to supplement income,
[/QUOTE]The only problem with that is the hot ones would either quit or they would just hold out until the demand became too great, which it would. Hot girls know their worth, they're not stupid. Why should a 9-10 be willing to accept the same rate a mediocre girl? That would be like asking Drew Brees to accept the same pay as his backup. Life ain't fair pal.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1295686]The only problem with that is the hot ones would either quit or they would just hold out until the demand became too great, which it would. Hot girls know their worth, they're not stupid. Why should a 9-10 be willing to accept the same rate a mediocre girl? That would be like asking Drew Brees to accept the same pay as his backup. Life ain't fair pal.[/QUOTE]Back in the Big Mango, first time mongering here in a couple of years (been to Patts twice since then). Stopped by a Nana Plaza bar this early afternoon. Chatted with a lovely girl from the south of the country. 25, 1.5 year old son with AWOL Thai husband, the usual shit LOS story. Now this girl was no stunner (a lovely smile, but the big-ish nose, not terribly dark, but we're talking 6, 7 to be very generous. Her winning attitude and somewhat decent English (and even more than that, a willingness to learn new phrases rather than the rolling of the eyes blah-blah-blah) almost hooked me for a quickie. But. She wanted 2000 baht ST with a 500 barfine. Seriously.
Well, this evening I'm going to try for the reunion sex with the Dollhouse dancer. I had visited the club right before closing last night (this morning) and she was not be found. I asked around (now this would have been 2:30 a. M.) and the manager said she was on holiday but that she would call her. So I chatted briefly on the phone (was so loud I couldn't tell what was what conversation-wise). The idea was that she was going to show if I waited a few minutes. Fine. I spent a few enjoyable minutes checking out the shaved snatch of one of her colleagues (there are a couple who were around for the late shift who would def be barfinable). Sooooo I was eventually led outside to met my friend. Was not the girl I was expecting.
At this time I did not have a SIM for my phone and did not want to rouse the real girl at that hour anyhow. But I was suspicious because some of the girls at the Dollhouse had claimed my friend had not worked there for a while. Still, I couldn't see that the girl would just try to scam me out of a measly barfine.
Finally got a call back today. (In the meantime, I had adjusted nicely to the concept of a night in Soi Cowboy for shopping, and trust me, I'm not going to get terribly wrapped up in this, as I've already spent enough mental energy even trying to set something up.) But OK. She sounds happy enough that I'm going to show up in the club. (This will come after a visit to Suzie Wong's and another bar or so.) Asked if I was going to barfine her. Maybe, I said. I'll see what she's up to attitude-wise.
Needless to say, BKK is such an improvement over HK, have to agree with NicFrenchy. Terminal 21 smokes away any of the shitty, overpriced malls in Hong Kong (which is a place where NOTHING is a value, clothing is triple the cost it should be). Nice to get some decent food, too. (Is there any cuisine, outside of dimsum, that the Cantonese have not fucked up?) And while I'm ripping on the Chinese brothers, I've got to say the mainlanders are totally making the HKG-BKK Emirates flight a fucking bloody hell. One porkbellied, Mao-haired twywatface kept invading my personal space. Imagine the smell of rotted Hickory Farms sausage and you could imagine what I had to deal with. And the lineup to board, gawd, it was as if those fuckers had all licked ashtrays before hopping in the queue. I used to be very tolerant of those people, now they are cementing a position as the most awful travelers on the planet. Thanks for that, guys. Let's just hope they're not clogging the gogos.
Aw, and forgot to report on what I did after leaving the Dollhouse emptyhanded last night. I got as far as one of the makeshift bars right at the corner where you cross the street to head to Nana. Two cute girls and a LB (hilarious that one drunk fellow chatted h / her up, apparently unawares, but you never know maybe that's the goat's thing. Bought drinks for the real girls (denied the pouty LB, ain't going there pal). One, named Wa, was from Myanmar, the other from Isaan, where else. Pung was her name. 22, great face, English poor. Said that it was her first week on the job (who knows).
Decided on 1500 ST with a 500 barfine. She started at 2000. Again, sticker shock. Shoulda held out for 1000, sorry.
Now here's the thing: Most of these girls are bargirls and not dancers for a reason. Yes, some might be too modest to shake ass, but generally it is because the body is lacking.
Back in the room, I was taken in by the girl's cleancut face, fabulous smile, heartwarming. But the sagging boobs and wrinkly nipples (once erect they took a decent form. And that C-section scar was total malpractice shit. On top of that was a rash on her ass. Oh fer gawd's sake. Just broke my heart to see. Sad.
But I'm a pussy man and there I was not disappointed. She just loved DATY, loved loved it loved it, and I was happy to oblige, though it took longer for her to come than I really wanted at that hour. I aim to please, to my discredit. For her part, the blowjob was lackluster. Finished in doggie. She was out of there ST. (Now why is it that some Thai guy is fucking calling her at 5 a. M. I'm going to put a cellphone ban in effect. Frankly, if we could all get together on that point, so sick of these chicks with those devices glued to their little heads. I'd join the union.)
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1295655]That is exactly the point quite a few of us are trying to make. It is the guys that set the tone for the market.[/QUOTE]Keep Dreaming. Its never going to happen. Farangs are not the only mongerers. There always will be people willing to step in and pay the price. Everybody wants to make the money while they can.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1295686]The only problem with that is the hot ones would either quit or they would just hold out until the demand became too great, which it would. Hot girls know their worth, they're not stupid. Why should a 9-10 be willing to accept the same rate a mediocre girl? That would be like asking Drew Brees to accept the same pay as his backup. Life ain't fair pal.[/QUOTE]Not true pal. If folks paid the same, the girls would go. They have to make money. During the depths of low season, even the most stunning girl has to make money. And when she needs money she will go for 1500. In the dark, all cats are gray. They won't quit, because most have no other skills.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1295785]Not true pal.[/QUOTE]It is difficult to put this small ISG community together on a pricing issue and you think it is ever be possible to just communicate, to the whole mongering population heading to or staying in Thailand to agree on ONE pricing. I agree with "Noclew", with all respect for each one's opinion as we are not here to fight for opinions but to share them.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1295785]In the dark, all cats are gray.[/QUOTE]Right. And attempting to set a standard price for their services is like trying to herd cats.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1295556]Actually I don't pay anything. LOL. Agogos are a poor value for the money.
It justv amazes me to think guys think they are getting pretty girls for 1000. Just look at the girls going to eat pancakes every morning-the girls are butt freaking ugly. LOL.[/QUOTE]Where do you get your girls or did you hop on the free bandwagon?
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1295829]Right. And attempting to set a standard price for their services is like trying to herd cats.[/QUOTE]You got that right pops!
The price conversation has been going on year after year! Hell if ever a Thread should be created it should be this " The Price Debate "
Personally I don't give a flying fuck what anyone pays! I'm not rich I'm not price! I sometimes am cheap and sometimes I overpay! Sometimes I buy drinks and sometimes I just look! That is my choice and I suggest no matter how good you argurment might be I say step back and stop trying to convince others or CONTROL them to think your way because it can't be achieved!
It will never happen and if you guys want to continue be my guess. But if not me someone will come along after the discussion and overpay or underpay!
LBM
So agreed to meet Am, gogo dancer from Dollhouse, last night at the club in Soi Cowboy. About 9 dropped in to Suzie wong's a favorite. They had about 12-18 girls, many cute ones, few punters at that hour. Couple honeys made eye contact and smiled. Most others indifferent. Was told by a mommy that the price is 2K ST and 4K LT with 600 baht barfine. That 4K figure is distressing, but based on a previous experience there a couple years ago you wouldn't want to do a LT bf with them anyhow; pain in the ass since they exist to fuck and nothing else.
Popped over to Baccara. Total fucking Nip city, and if I offend, well I am happy for that. The place was packed to the gills with Japs, so I guess the energy crisis / nuclear disaster / tsunami hasn't hurt them too much. Guess since they make great shit they will always be in good shape, particularly with the absurd strenght of the yen, which is causing more to induce headaches on the pricing front in LOS than any "overpaying" farang, believe me. And you can be sure those other barkeeps are checking in to see how well Baccara is doing. Expect more.
So then I drop in to the Dollhouse and Am is not to be seen. I phone her and she says she's on her way. In the meantime, I am sitting upstairs at a table below a gyratin, young nude thing with the most splendid ass. Cute as hell (she's friendly enough). All of the girls are shaved in this club. Not a lot of girls seem to be getting taken here. A few minutes later Ame arrives in her street dress. Instant smile, sweet. I remember immediately why it was that I liked her so much two years ago, when I did a LT session followed by a day trip. We chat and she says that she works in the club on the weekends. Is taking computer science uni classes (though it really sounds fucked up: ah, she can do the work at her pace, online, whatever. Total diploma mills bullshit that will get her nowhere but poorer). I comment that I am pleased that she's getting it together, and what with the two farangs (one UK, one American) who are sponsors, and the invitation to visit USA with her kid. Of course she doesn't love either guy (ah, wink wink, but maybe you, honey are the one). The girl totally knows how to milk the system, but somehow is not smart enough to follow up and seal the deal. Bottom line is that she probably really does like her life in the bars, truth be told.
So we chat and I buy 1000 baht worth of drinks (3 Singa for me. 3 ladydrinks for Am and one drink for one of the managers who has latched on; I shoulda at least saved the 170 by denying that). So I'm basically doing this for her to keep face. We exit about 11 pm to walk to my hotel, nearby. Our plan was LT with an outing on Friday, her return to the bar in the early evening.
In the room we chat, have a very nice sex session. God, her look of ecstacy while she rides my face really brought back great memories. Go through the positions and I finish mish (condom on). I tell her the next session that I'm going to come in her mouth and face. That was fine by her.
And yet. Late at night she tells me that she must leave in the morning to get her son ready for school. I know this to be total bullshit because her FB comments mention that she misses her son. (now don't get me going on that, I have only 3 P4P girls, ones who can pass for being not, on FB, but anyhow). Sure enough she wakes up at 8, not 7 as she professed to need to be back. She rebuffs the sex session, showers, returns (I am in bed) full dressed and says the immortal words of the Thai hooker: "You give me money."
I was unhappy as she was going to return. So she thinks I'm going to run out. Fair enough. I say "how much?"
Angrily, she replies (with that look of nastiness on her face) : "You know how much."
Me, not wanting to hear that the dollhouse also charges 4K LT, I say "No, I don't know how much"
"Tree tousand long time"
Me: "But honey, I didn't get long time. You didn't give me sex in the morning."
"But I sleep with you. OK (more angrily). Up to you."
I hand her 2K.
We both agree that we are both unhappy and that the day outing was in peril. (Well, of course I had no intention of wasting any more time with such a creature.)
At this point I say: "OK, I am sorry to remind you that I am also the guy who sent you 200 US dollars. Just to remind you who I am, in case you have forgotten."
Well folks, the moral of the story is do not expect gratitude, which is all I expected out of the deal. Know the girl needed the money. Next time, donations will be funneled through the Red Cross.
Now it's Pattaya time, where ST sex, and lots of it, will rule the day.
Cheers and have fun out there.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1295831]Where do you get your girls or did you hop on the free bandwagon?[/QUOTE]Not dofficult not to pay. One has to simply not to take girls! And keep on his dreaming life in front of a PC screen hitting the keyboard
[QUOTE=Wildhawk; 1295928]So agreed to meet Am, gogo dancer from Dollhouse, last night at the club in Soi Cowboy.
At this point I say: "OK, I am sorry to remind you that I am also the guy who sent you 200 US dollars. Just to remind you who I am, in case you have forgotten."
Well folks, the moral of the story is do not expect gratitude, which is all I expected out of the deal. Know the girl needed the money. Next time, donations will be funneled through the Red Cross. Now it's Pattaya time, where ST sex, and lots of it, will rule the day. Cheers and have fun out there.[/QUOTE]Well, this bitter end was somehow expectable even if we wished it did not end this way. These girls ae also destroying the country reputation (is there any left after these repeated stories?) as I am sure there is a small % of girls who have got together for no money for that night, as a "thank you".
Being her free time, by the way, not taking her working time for free (even then it was not fully for free as time back she got a donation of 200$ not meant to be paid back, not expected for a free sex night, but a sign of gratitude could have assured her not only a repeted customer but peace of mind for all)
[QUOTE=Wildhawk;1295928]So agreed to meet Am - (snip) Well folks, the moral of the story is do not expect gratitude, which is all I expected out of the deal. Know the girl needed the money. Next time, donations will be funneled through the Red Cross.[/QUOTE]Interesting to hear the end to this long story.
You did well to reconnect with Am as a quasi "friend", screw her a few times, and enjoy it all until early morning. In her mind, that was her gratitude. After all, you did meet her where she works and paid ladydrink prices.
Seeing that Am is still working in a bar, I'm not surprised that she wanted money from you regardless of your flood "donation." P4P women's minds don't work that way. A pile of baht has a very short psychological "half life" around these parts.
You could have played it cool, given her the LT money she asked for, and got a little more if you really wanted to (if you liked her). What's a few 1000 baht in the big scheme of things? For some guys, not much. Sounds like you did the right thing, though, as they have a way of always asking for more. And, then there's the "principle" involved. ;)
For most bargirls, no matter what they say, fucking most (if not all) foreigners is just a job. If you are a visiting "tourist" you're a customer, nothing more. Even local ex-pat, so called "boyfriends" are just customers (whether they know it, or not).
Over in Pattaya, practice Daddy 07's time honored policy of "screw 'em and send 'em on their way." Everybody stays happy that way!
And, definitely think about saying "no" to the next one that asks you for money for no services rendered. That way you will not be taking care of some slick Somchai's souped up Honda Sonic! :)
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1295967]Interesting to hear the end to this long story.
You did well to reconnect with Am as a quasi "friend", screw her a few times, and enjoy it all until early morning. In her mind, that was her gratitude. After all, you did meet her where she works and paid ladydrink prices.
Seeing that Am is still working in a bar, I'm not surprised that she wanted money from you regardless of your flood "donation." P4P women's minds don't work that way. A pile of baht has a very short psychological "half life" around these parts.
You could have played it cool, given her the LT money she asked for, and got a little more if you really wanted to (if you liked her). What's a few 1000 baht in the big scheme of things? For some guys, not much. Sounds like you did the right thing, though, as they have a way of always asking for more. And, then there's the "principle" involved. .
For most bargirls, no matter what they say, fucking most (if not all) foreigners is just a job. If you are a visiting "tourist" you're a customer, nothing more. Even local ex-pat, so called "boyfriends" are just customers (whether they know it, or not).
Over in Pattaya, practice Daddy 07's time honored policy of "screw 'them and send 'them on their way." Everybody stays happy that way!
And, definitely think about saying "no" to the next one that asks you for money for no services rendered. That way you will not be taking care of some slick Somchai's souped up Honda Sonic! .[/QUOTE]Absolutely! I fully agree.
Nice Bike though, payed by the Gullible Sponsors.
FonTok.
See this quote:
[QUOTE=Wildhawk; 1295928]So agreed to meet Am,
A few minutes later Ame arrives in her street dress. Instant smile, sweet. I remember immediately why it was that I liked her so much two years ago, when I did a LT session followed by a day trip. We chat and she says that she works in the club on the weekends. Is taking computer science uni classes (though it really sounds fucked up: ah, she can do the work at her pace, online, whatever. .[/QUOTE]That means that that night it was not a working night for her and if she wanted she could easily be out and play with the guy for free.
If she wanted.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1295686]The only problem with that is the hot ones would either quit or they would just hold out until the demand became too great, which it would. Hot girls know their worth, they're not stupid. Why should a 9-10 be willing to accept the same rate a mediocre girl? That would be like asking Drew Brees to accept the same pay as his backup. Life ain't fair pal.[/QUOTE]If LeBron James and D Wade can take a pay cut then so can the two spinners in Rainbow 4.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1295613]I think that we also need to separte the guy who has saved money for a mongering vacation in Thailand and wants to get the best out of the days he spends there, rather than out of the money he spends, from the guys who either live there (expatriates) or go very often for various reasons (business, lay-over, happily and wealthy retired who can spend few weeks every 3-4 months). The former will not care much if spending 1000 or 2000. It is still within his reasonable budget (unless he is a hardened heap charlie and some are only for the reason of bargaining rather than saving, let's face it). Let's say he pays the double of whatever is the rate, for 1 week or 10 days. It is not going to be a killer for his wallet. He will have peace of mind, happy to monger and add more girls to his portfolio, He also cannot afford to keep on walking away because of the price. Hey, it is his holiday, it is his bunch of days. Any day / night he "misses", it is one less he will take a memory back home. Travelled all the way (air ticket, lodging, food, ie fix costs) and then not score to save what? 5000b? 10, 000b? These guys are also those either willing to score every night or even multiple time a day (then the unit price factor might have some influence, I agree) No way he is going to think too much about the local price level. He will reckonthat 2000b. Is a good bargain 8for him, his budget and comaprison level, that is also why he goes to Thailand and doesn't monger at home, far more expensive and less fun). Goes to Thailand once a year for 10 days. Those 10 days will be intense for him. But maybe the only 10 days of the year. So why to bother for an extra cost of 10000b? Can you blame him? Different story is the long term or repeated resident. Goes out one night, looks around. Doesn't find anything at his wallet level, walks away, maybe with a drink in his memory, few hours spent out of home / room, mission nearly achieved. On to th enext time, maybe the night after, maybe 3-4 nights after. Time and chances are on his side. Apart few guys, there is no need to score every single night out, every single night of the week (can he also score? Where is going to end this way? A sex pscho?). So he is the one saying, either I get her at 1000 or no way. He doesn't care if he doesn't get her. There will be another time he can get one and he'll be happy. So different stories for different guys and one cannot blame one's behaviour till he fits in his shoes (and even then.). Each one his own. Since the offer and demand are so wide and broad I am not so sure prices can be affected iether way. There might be areas where a (tourist) price might take the lead. Well, the "experts" will stay away from those areas. Be it. And let the tourist enjoy his 10 days break at "double" price, being this still a fraction of what he pays at home (and not accounting the different approach to p4p existing in SEA, mixed with the general level of providers).[/QUOTE]You have hit the nail on the head, which is why the argument for all guys paying less won't work: HE CANNOT AFFORD TO WALK AWAY BECAUSE OF THE PRICE. I remember when I didn't live here, my first 4-5 days on holiday were wild. These days, if I meet a stunner and she overcharges or I don't like her attitude, I go home, eat a sandwich, and save my cash for another night. Most tourists do the same all over the world. You're not going to pass up the memory of a view of the Taj Mahal no matter how much they charge.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1295693]Whats so hard to believe in that a girls price is based on looks!
Try this. You take a real real ugly from beer garden for 500 bath. She is superstar in bed and you really like her, the next time you are going to pay the same 500-she is still really ugly.
On the other end if you take a 5000 bhat tarawadee girl who provides shit service, if you want her again its still 5000 baht. She still is very pretty.[/QUOTE]Try this: Some guys pay really ugly BG girls 2000 baht. They still are really ugly. Some guys pay really hot go go girls 1-1, 500 baht. They still are really hot. Has nothing to do with the ugly or hot, has everything to do with the guy and his rapport with the girl, plus a shitload of other factors.
[QUOTE=Wildhawk; 1295928]So agreed to meet Am, gogo dancer from Dollhouse, last night at the club in Soi Cowboy. About 9 dropped in to Suzie wong's a favorite. They had about 12-18 girls, many cute ones, few punters at that hour. Couple honeys made eye contact and smiled. Most others indifferent. Was told by a mommy that the price is 2K ST and 4K LT with 600 baht barfine. That 4K figure is distressing, but based on a previous experience there a couple years ago you wouldn't want to do a LT bf with them anyhow; pain in the ass since they exist to fuck and nothing else.
Popped over to Baccara. Total fucking Nip city, and if I offend, well I am happy for that. The place was packed to the gills with Japs, so I guess the energy crisis / nuclear disaster / tsunami hasn't hurt them too much. Guess since they make great shit they will always be in good shape, particularly with the absurd strenght of the yen, which is causing more to induce headaches on the pricing front in LOS than any "overpaying" farang, believe me. And you can be sure those other barkeeps are checking in to see how well Baccara is doing. Expect more.
So then I drop in to the Dollhouse and Am is not to be seen. I phone her and she says she's on her way. In the meantime, I am sitting upstairs at a table below a gyratin, young nude thing with the most splendid ass. Cute as hell (she's friendly enough). All of the girls are shaved in this club. Not a lot of girls seem to be getting taken here. A few minutes later Ame arrives in her street dress. Instant smile, sweet. I remember immediately why it was that I liked her so much two years ago, when I did a LT session followed by a day trip. We chat and she says that she works in the club on the weekends. Is taking computer science uni classes (though it really sounds fucked up: ah, she can do the work at her pace, online, whatever. Total diploma mills bullshit that will get her nowhere but poorer). I comment that I am pleased that she's getting it together, and what with the two farangs (one UK, one American) who are sponsors, and the invitation to visit USA with her kid. Of course she doesn't love either guy (ah, wink wink, but maybe you, honey are the one). The girl totally knows how to milk the system, but somehow is not smart enough to follow up and seal the deal. Bottom line is that she probably really does like her life in the bars, truth be told.
So we chat and I buy 1000 baht worth of drinks (3 Singa for me. 3 ladydrinks for Am and one drink for one of the managers who has latched on; I shoulda at least saved the 170 by denying that). So I'm basically doing this for her to keep face. We exit about 11 pm to walk to my hotel, nearby. Our plan was LT with an outing on Friday, her return to the bar in the early evening.
In the room we chat, have a very nice sex session. God, her look of ecstacy while she rides my face really brought back great memories. Go through the positions and I finish mish (condom on). I tell her the next session that I'm going to come in her mouth and face. That was fine by her.
And yet. Late at night she tells me that she must leave in the morning to get her son ready for school. I know this to be total bullshit because her FB comments mention that she misses her son. (now don't get me going on that, I have only 3 P4P girls, ones who can pass for being not, on FB, but anyhow). Sure enough she wakes up at 8, not 7 as she professed to need to be back. She rebuffs the sex session, showers, returns (I am in bed) full dressed and says the immortal words of the Thai hooker: "You give me money."
I was unhappy as she was going to return. So she thinks I'm going to run out. Fair enough. I say "how much?"
Angrily, she replies (with that look of nastiness on her face) : "You know how much."
Me, not wanting to hear that the dollhouse also charges 4K LT, I say "No, I don't know how much"
"Tree tousand long time"
Me: "But honey, I didn't get long time. You didn't give me sex in the morning."
"But I sleep with you. OK (more angrily). Up to you."
I hand her 2K.
We both agree that we are both unhappy and that the day outing was in peril. (Well, of course I had no intention of wasting any more time with such a creature.)
At this point I say: "OK, I am sorry to remind you that I am also the guy who sent you 200 US dollars. Just to remind you who I am, in case you have forgotten."
Well folks, the moral of the story is do not expect gratitude, which is all I expected out of the deal. Know the girl needed the money. Next time, donations will be funneled through the Red Cross.
Now it's Pattaya time, where ST sex, and lots of it, will rule the day.
Cheers and have fun out there.[/QUOTE]Congrats for the easy to read, amusing and down to earth reports.
Re the 200$, been in a similar situation which turned out the opposite to yours, luck of the draw my friend.
Once again, nice reporting.
Tuck
[QUOTE=Friar Tuck;1296004]Congrats for the easy to read, Tuck[/QUOTE]There is no real need to quote the whole message or we end up with the same message over repeated
[QUOTE=Wildhawk; 1295928]"Tree tousand long time"
Me: "But honey, I didn't get long time. You didn't give me sex in the morning."
"But I sleep with you. OK (more angrily). Up to you."
I hand her 2K.
We both agree that we are both unhappy and that the day outing was in peril. (Well, of course I had no intention of wasting any more time with such a creature.) [/QUOTE]Yes I'm afraid she is right that long time is LT whether you got in the 2nd screw or not. You should have set alarm to make sure you got it.
We did tell you long ago that the flood donation is long forgotten, especially as she may have got it from several guys.
Golden Rule. Never pay a girl in advance in Thailand. You will never get your money's worth. A donation is a donation and not a loan. Bargirls don't have a very extended feeling of indebtedness. Thais have a word for this "Greng Jai". They speak about this feeling a lot, but they do not feel it at all. Farangs have feelings of indebtedness, for help given, but they rarely speak about it or put it into words.
How often do we use this word "indebtedness" in our spoken language? Not much, if ever.
There are Thais who feel "Greng Jai", in which case they will talk about it a lot less than the ones who don't feel it.
[QUOTE=Wildhawk;1295928]Popped over to Baccara. Total fucking Nip city, and if I offend, well I am happy for that. The place was packed to the gills with Japs, so I guess the energy crisis / nuclear disaster / tsunami hasn't hurt them too much. Guess since they make great shit they will always be in good shape, particularly with the absurd strenght of the yen, which is causing more to induce headaches on the pricing front in LOS than any "overpaying" farang, believe me. And you can be sure those other barkeeps are checking in to see how well Baccara is doing. Expect more.[/QUOTE]Good grief mister, what do you have against the Japanese fellows there? They're just minding their business and enjoying their hard earned cash, just like the rest of us.
I've notice a lot of construction around my condo, are the female construction workers available for some hanky panky after work or on their days off? I can't imagine they'd turn down 500 baht which would at least double their pay for the day. Believe it or not, some of them are not bad looking at all.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1295992]FonTok. See this quote: That means that that night it was not a working night for her and if she wanted she could easily be out and play with the guy for free. If she wanted.[/QUOTE]Bargirls are always working, don't kid yourself.
Sure, you can believe otherwise, but just don't meet her at the club where she works.
Besides, there is no FREE in Thailand. I don't care what anybody says here on IGG, you pay at some point.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1296028]Good grief mister, what do you have against the Japanese fellows there? They're just minding their business and enjoying their hard earned cash, just like the rest of us.[/QUOTE]This seems to be the favorite subject for the last few weeks. Everytime you can't get laid or complain about price, it's always someone else's fault. If it wasn't for the Japanese contingent, the quality of many places would fall and become dives.
That's why the ignore function is so great.
All men should negotiate the girl down to 1500 not because the 500 baht in savings is that great, but because it keeps them from getting spoiled and developing a ripoff attitude.
All of the best girls I've ever had didn't care about the price.
If she's not willing to knock off 500 baht to seal the deal, she likely won't be willing to perform either.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1296027]Yes I'm afraid she is right that long time is LT whether you got in the 2nd screw or not. You should have set alarm to make sure you got it.[/quote]You can't be serious. If the man wants sex in the morning and the girl leaves without giving, then too bad for her, she won't get paid Long time.
I fully support what he as done and would have done the same.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1296056]That's why the ignore function is so great.[/QUOTE]Not all the time though. Sometimes it puts people on ignore without me doing it. For example: I can't see the posts of Mr H444, but did NOT put him on ignore. Not that I mind, but seems to me there is a faulty thingy here.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1296084]You can't be serious. If the man wants sex in the morning and the girl leaves without giving, then too bad for her, she won't get paid Long time.
I fully support what he as done and would have done the same.[/QUOTE]I don't condone for a minute paying for ST when you expected the girl to stay for the whole night, if the fault lies with the guy. It's as if you are saying he should get several hours of her time for free. If she was unwilling to to have sex in the morning, or decides to leave in a hurry, I too would dock her payment too. It depends on circumstances and what has been agreed to.
It wasn't clear to me in the orginal report that he was refused the sex in the morning. He merely stated that he didn't get it before she had decided it was time to leave. I had guessed he merely did not request it at a reasonable hour. Girls are not expecting LT to last till lunchtime. Some wish to leave early and some don't. If the girl needs to leave excessively early she should warn the customer before the LT is agreed to. I have been caught out with girls wanting to leave early before I got to my 2nd round.
Obviously I do not pay for one round the same as I would pay for 2 rounds, but requiring her to stay the night probably deserves some payment. Most of these girls only do ST for 2K, I would say.
My best bargirl, sometimes would stay all night, if she is very sleepy. Other days she would offer instead not to stay the night, but to return to knock on my door for the morning round of sex at some agreed time. She would then get the rest of her long time money. This has worked well for me. She is reliable and arrives early when I am just waking up with hard-on ready to go. She was probably playing cards (gambling) all night with other bargirls.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1296071]All men should negotiate the girl down to 1500 not because the 500 baht in savings is that great, but because it keeps them from getting spoiled and developing a ripoff attitude.
All of the best girls I've ever had didn't care about the price.
If she's not willing to knock off 500 baht to seal the deal, she likely won't be willing to perform either.[/QUOTE]ROFLMAO. :D
Obviously you rate girls as "best" if they don't care how much they get.
I would call those girls "desperate", lacking in self esteem, or they really fancy you. Perhaps you didn't express it well.
Many girls are happy with what I give them because they know I am fair to generous, and reward for effort and a good time. Doesn't mean they don't care how much they get. Sometimes negotiation is just not necessary. They are mostly happy to keep repeating except for the ones who really don't like sex much.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1296086]Not all the time though. Sometimes it puts people on ignore without me doing it. For example: I can't see the posts of Mr H444, but did NOT put him on ignore. Not that I mind, but seems to me there is a faulty thingy here.[/QUOTE]Are you the only one on the forum that has to only think about ignoring the guy, and the computer reads your mind and does it automatically? Could you have forgotten you decided to ignore him?
For me, guys go to "Ignore" only when I deliberately do it. Actually there was a different guy recently who was much more annoying than even H444 to me. Fortunately I have ignored him very effectively, since I can't now remember who it was. I guess he went away.
Its been harder to forget H444 unfortunately since he gets discussed so much.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1295967]Interesting to hear the end to this long story.
You did well to reconnect with Am as a quasi "friend", screw her a few times, and enjoy it all until early morning. In her mind, that was her gratitude. After all, you did meet her where she works and paid ladydrink prices.
Seeing that Am is still working in a bar, I'm not surprised that she wanted money from you regardless of your flood "donation." P4P women's minds don't work that way. A pile of baht has a very short psychological "half life" around these parts.
You could have played it cool, given her the LT money she asked for, and got a little more if you really wanted to (if you liked her). What's a few 1000 baht in the big scheme of things? For some guys, not much. Sounds like you did the right thing, though, as they have a way of always asking for more. And, then there's the "principle" involved. .
For most bargirls, no matter what they say, fucking most (if not all) foreigners is just a job. If you are a visiting "tourist" you're a customer, nothing more. Even local ex-pat, so called "boyfriends" are just customers (whether they know it, or not).
Over in Pattaya, practice Daddy 07's time honored policy of "screw 'them and send 'them on their way." Everybody stays happy that way!
And, definitely think about saying "no" to the next one that asks you for money for no services rendered. That way you will not be taking care of some slick Somchai's souped up Honda Sonic! .[/QUOTE]You got that right! This bike a 125 Sonic, dual disc brakes and with a Clutch! Is 99% driven by a guy or one can say a Thai guy! Because of the clutch. If a bargirl is driving one of these one can safely say its her boyfriend or of course a relative in her family which most likely will be her excuse? It is a sure give away along with the after market seat which all the young guys like. Stiff as a board like a racing Recardo seat. Most bikes are automatics and with girls they love those Finos or Snoopy. Any bikes that has been modified, seats with exhaust system, thin or fat tires, fancy shocks and rims certainly only guys would spend the money?
LBM
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1296027]We did tell you long ago that the flood donation is long forgotten, especially as she may have got it from several guys. Golden Rule. Never pay a girl in advance in Thailand. You will never get your money's worth. A donation is a donation and not a loan. Bargirls don't have a very extended feeling of indebtedness.[/QUOTE]Being a person who loves saying I told you so. WE TOLD HIM, WE TOLD HIM. I even told him there was no flood where she said she lived. But he did insist that.
[QUOTE=Wildhawk;1213617]I have gotten an email from a WG (26- 28 year old The Dollhouse / Soi Cowboy) gogo dancer I met 1. 5 years ago) who says she is back home in Surin and reports that flooding is keeping her from, um apparently honest, work. I have been in occasional email contact with her and her recent message is the first appeal for money over time. I am inclined to believe she really is in dire straits (but aren't they all, really?). Under the circumstances I feel compelled to help out with about $200 USD. (I harbor no illusions of getting anything in return and this is pure philanthropy.[/QUOTE]But now wants his donations worth. LOL and TIT.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1296086]Not all the time though. Sometimes it puts people on ignore without me doing it. For example: I can't see the posts of Mr H444, but did NOT put him on ignore. Not that I mind, but seems to me there is a faulty thingy here.[/QUOTE]So its not just me then. I'm not getting Syzygies reports and have not put him on ignore.
There is definately a faulty thingy going on here.
[QUOTE=Oldian;1295993]If LeBron James and D Wade can take a pay cut then so can the two spinners in Rainbow 4.[/QUOTE]LOL@ comparing King James to an Issarn bar girl. What Lebron and D-Wade lost in salary was hansumly compensated in endorsement money.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1296071]All men should negotiate the girl down to 1500 not because the 500 baht in savings is that great, but because it keeps them from getting spoiled and developing a ripoff attitude.
All of the best girls I've ever had didn't care about the price.
If she's not willing to knock off 500 baht to seal the deal, she likely won't be willing to perform either.[/QUOTE]If I could I would send your message to your employer. I am sure (s)he likes to hear that paying less to workers makes them somehow better performers. :)
[QUOTE=Oldian;1296001]Some guys pay really hot go go girls 1-1, 500 baht. They still are really hot.[/QUOTE]Yeh right, what percentage of the the time does this really happen in BKK? Show us some pics evidence. By really hot, do you mean nice body but ordinary face, or pretty face with a shit body, or do you just mean fucked really nicely? Perhaps a desperate drug addict? I would be surprised to learn could get both very pretty and a smoking hot body for 1 to 1. 5K unless you found a dumb newbie who was used to Pattaya prices. Okay if she had the hots for you in particular could happen, but not in normal scheme of things. These "hot" girls could probably get 3K+ easily for a Japanese quickie. After doing 3 of those in the evening, late in the evening she might go with you for free for some fun sex?
Yes its well accepted that some guys overpay for real "dogs" (apologies. One could not say this in Thai). I do sympathy fucks (older girls) on occasions but no one extremely ugly, and not if I don't like the girl.
I have to agree with the other writer, that in general the best looking girls will cost more and they don't necessarily perform well, so you might not get your money's worth. Its simply a case of market pressure. A girl will charge basically what she knows she can get regularly (or start higher). She may drop her rate if the guy is really hot and she lusts for him. She may increase her rate if the guy does not interest her at all, but may still be willing for a high price.
I have not tried 1000, but at 1500, yes you can get very pretty girls. That's what I pay and what I get. And it's not hard. Simply avoid the big bars and go to the smaller ones.
The big bars have too much foot traffic, they don't need to care about the customers or pricing, they have 10 tourists walking in every minute.
Damn! Saw a really hot Chinese gal at work, with big ass!
Tits. Equally yummilicious!
Not obscene. All proportions very appropriate! Could not ask for any thing more anywhere, those tight jeans told it all.
I thanked our hobby in my head. Else desperation could lead me and my likes into insanity!
Next trip, whenever, has to include some Chinese booty! Decided!
Enjoy all,
-R.
[QUOTE=Friar Tuck; 1296004]Congrats for the easy to read, amusing and down to earth reports.
Re the 200$, been in a similar situation which turned out the opposite to yours, luck of the draw my friend.
Once again, nice reporting.
Tuck[/QUOTE]Thank you, Mr. Tuck.
At least some encouragement for learning. Shit, I should have known posting to the BKK board with all the wizened fucks who know it all.
I merely posited a warning about Thai WG. And per Mr. Million Post E's comment, wrong (expletive deleted). I was expecting nothing in return. I do believe that reasonableness, perhaps kindness, might have been returned. Certainly did NOT expect a free fuck. As a matter of fact, had she stuck around to provide the same kind of tour guide service she had previously, I might have slipped her 4000 baht.
On the issue of LT, I disagree fully with several posters, but in the future will make certain that circumstances are fully negotiated in advance.
LT means sex in morning. (Now, say a drunken MF punter sleeps in until noon, well, the bet is off in such a circumstance.) I had agreed with a lady (I had known before, no problem, nice time, etc.) that we would spend the day together. In my case, I handed her 2000 baht, a reasonable ST rate. I have even had this discussion with a few WGs, and many of them agree with me. Ame, the Dollhouse dancer I had barfined, surely should have known better. It's all water under the bridge, that one. Lesson learned.
But ... if we cannot all get on board with the issue of what constitutes LT, all bets are off as far as the whinging goes about pricing. ("AAAAAH, I remember in the day when you could get a nice piece of Thai pussy for 10 baht, back when I served with the Flying Tigers," sound of gums flapping). If fellows are paying WG's to sleep over, with a warm body next door, well. Help us all.
But whatever. I'm afraid the snarkiness of some Sex City Posters is putting me down, man. I'm hesitant to post on the Patts board, considering. (And I have had nothing but a great time so far, so I don't think my approach to this biz is completely off. Had a fabulous night, and good portion of a day with an incredible gogo dancer from a joint called Sweethearts. And she was a sweetie. (Kinda what I thought of the other girl ... Now you can laugh out loud!)
[QUOTE=Wildhawk; 1296385]Thank you, Mr. Tuck.
At least some encouragement for learning. Shit, I should have known posting to the BKK board with all the wizened fucks who know it all.
LT means sex in morning. (Now, say a drunken MF punter sleeps in until noon, well, the bet is off in such a circumstance.[/QUOTE]Sometime the problem is to kick out the young lady at noon. As she oversleeps, even after she gave you a morning wake up. I can't sleep overnight till late hours non stop. Regardless of the time I went to bed and what I did there. So be it 7 or 8 or 9 a first awakening takes place. Time for the sexual wake up call too by the lady of the night and then she is free (paid and nicely motioned) to go and I can eventually keep on sleeping again, free to crawl and stay self asleep till I want. Unless she is the one staying for 2-3 days, but then it means I can stand her presence (and she mine) and feel free of sleeping or awakening obligations.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1296326]Yeh right, what percentage of the the time does this really happen in BKK? Show us some pics evidence. By really hot, do you mean nice body but ordinary face, or pretty face with a shit body, or do you just mean fucked really nicely? Perhaps a desperate drug addict? I would be surprised to learn could get both very pretty and a smoking hot body for 1 to 1. 5K unless you found a dumb newbie who was used to Pattaya prices. Okay if she had the hots for you in particular could happen, but not in normal scheme of things. These "hot" girls could probably get 3K+ easily for a Japanese quickie. After doing 3 of those in the evening, late in the evening she might go with you for free for some fun sex?
Yes its well accepted that some guys overpay for real "dogs" (apologies. One could not say this in Thai). I do sympathy fucks (older girls) on occasions but no one extremely ugly, and not if I don't like the girl.
I have to agree with the other writer, that in general the best looking girls will cost more and they don't necessarily perform well, so you might not get your money's worth. Its simply a case of market pressure. A girl will charge basically what she knows she can get regularly (or start higher). She may drop her rate if the guy is really hot and she lusts for him. She may increase her rate if the guy does not interest her at all, but may still be willing for a high price.[/QUOTE]Agreed, it could be a great body and ordinary face or vice versa. Then again, even with a nice face and body, you wouldn't get most guys on this board to agree as to what is hot (when I go out with some of my mates we are amazed at the differences in our preferences, I tend to prefer white skin, Thai Chinese specs, and sometimes tall, whereas some friends think that they have to be dark as the night and only slightly above midget height). The basic point I am trying to make is that I don't think the rates are based only on looks. I met two Rainbow dancers on Sukhumvit at 230am some months ago. Personally I wouldn't count them as overly hot, but at any rate, they were gogo girls working in one of the more frequented spots in Nana. We were hanging out drinking and at some point one of them said to me,"it must be nice to live here." When I asked why, she answered,"because you know a lot, you can speak some Thai, and you can have many ladies." She then said,"I bet you don't have to pay bar or can pay lady 1000 baht, right?" I agreed. 30 minutes later, I took both of them home at 1000 baht each. No, I wouldn't consider either of them knockouts, but they were good looking enough, with great attitudes. Not to mention that they are getting pulled in the bar for 1. 5-3. If we are talking high end, why not just head out to the gentlemens' clubs and fork out whatever they are asking for supposed model types?
[QUOTE=Wildhawk; 1296385]Thank you, Mr. Tuck.
At least some encouragement for learning. Shit, I should have known posting to the BKK board with all the wizened fucks who know it all.
I merely posited a warning about Thai WG. And per Mr. Million Post E's comment, wrong (expletive deleted). I was expecting nothing in return. I do believe that reasonableness, perhaps kindness, might have been returned. Certainly did NOT expect a free fuck. As a matter of fact, had she stuck around to provide the same kind of tour guide service she had previously, I might have slipped her 4000 baht.
On the issue of LT, I disagree fully with several posters, but in the future will make certain that circumstances are fully negotiated in advance.
LT means sex in morning. (Now, say a drunken MF punter sleeps in until noon, well, the bet is off in such a circumstance.) I had agreed with a lady (I had known before, no problem, nice time, etc.) that we would spend the day together. In my case, I handed her 2000 baht, a reasonable ST rate. I have even had this discussion with a few WGs, and many of them agree with me. Ame, the Dollhouse dancer I had barfined, surely should have known better. It's all water under the bridge, that one. Lesson learned.
But. If we cannot all get on board with the issue of what constitutes LT, all bets are off as far as the whinging goes about pricing. ("AAAAAH, I remember in the day when you could get a nice piece of Thai pussy for 10 baht, back when I served with the Flying Tigers," sound of gums flapping). If fellows are paying WG's to sleep over, with a warm body next door, well. Help us all.
But whatever. I'm afraid the snarkiness of some Sex City Posters is putting me down, man. I'm hesitant to post on the Patts board, considering. (And I have had nothing but a great time so far, so I don't think my approach to this biz is completely off. Had a fabulous night, and good portion of a day with an incredible gogo dancer from a joint called Sweethearts. And she was a sweetie. (Kinda what I thought of the other girl. Now you can laugh out loud!) [/QUOTE]Of couse long time means a shag in the morning if you feel like it. What else are you paying the extra money for (which is usually at least an extra grand)? To wake up with somebody with her hand out in a hurry to get away, I don't think so. No doubt some will try and avoid another effort because they feel can get away with it but no way should one pay LT rates without a parting shot. The rule is if she stays she plays.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1296391]Last point 4 now. You guys so entertaining.
Come on now. We know you not giving girl 4 k to be a guide. LOL.
Just admit she didn't like you-AND move on![/QUOTE]Ah, gee Harold, you've made yourself another fan. Coming from such an unloved guy, maybe I ought of take yer advice. Or not. You fail, as always, to sense irony and misadventure.
[QUOTE=Oldian;1296524]I tend to prefer white skin, Thai Chinese specs, and sometimes tall, whereas some friends think that they have to be dark as the night and only slightly above midget height). ?[/QUOTE]Agreed that preferences vary a lot. I rarely go for Chinese looking girls, who typically have rounder faces, and often have poor waist to thigh ratios and ugly bottoms. Sorry about the generalisation as I know there are some very pretty Chinese girls, e. g. That one in the movie "Transporter" (Shu Qui. Sorry about spelling) was gorgeous. A low percentage of Chinese girls look hot to me. I like girls with narrow faces and model type looks, skin colour being rather unimportant, as long as not too extreme. I have seen girls recently that were so hot (both face and body) I just could not stop looking, despite being rather dark skinned. I just don't see a problem with darker skin, and some black girls are stunning to me. Height is also not a big issue for me, again as long as not too extreme. 5 foot is a little too short for me (but girls often cheat with high heels) and 6 foot is probably the tallest that I feel comfortable with (shorter than me). However in my entire mongering life I don't think I have ever encountered a working girl that was 6 foot without heels. Have done some rather tall Slovakian girls (big tits too) but still under 6 foot. I would never consider a girl that was close to me in weight. :D
Be careful about categorising your friends. Just because they like a particular girl that is dark and short, doesn't mean that is all they like. Its just there is such a large supply of short dark "lek lek dam dam" Issaan girls. Do I go to a place and deliberately pick a short dark girl? No, not unless she is very pretty and has a great body. Being short and dark is not a main selection criteria. I would prefer a taller girl, with a fab body if possible, but short is in big supply.
Allow for short guys feeling very comftable with short girls too.
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1296336]I have not tried 1000, but at 1500, yes you can get very pretty girls. That's what I pay and what I get. And it's not hard. Simply avoid the big bars and go to the smaller ones.[/QUOTE]Which small bars have these pretty girls? I have surveyed quite a few bars and don't find lots of really hot bodied and pretty girls in most of them. Perhaps I am just too hard to please. I am willing to agree that Rainbow 4 has some stunners as does Bacarrat. However I don't go to these bars often due to difficulty to select hot girls that are not in a hurry. There was one girl I thought was hot at Baccarat, but I gave her away in the end, purely due to her having a cavenously loose pussy that just didn't do it for me. Even Shark girls didn't interest me that much recently. Having been having a great time with girls from Suzi Wong and Sheba, but its hard to find anyone there that is truly hot bodied and stunningly pretty, regardless of what price they go for. Tends to be either pretty or good body (not both) , but some really enjoyable sessions.
In one lonely noon I found long time unused number in my mobile phone. I called her; yes still she is working in a legitimate massage shop and agreed to meet at Siam. She came in time, refused for lunch and opted for a coffee. We agreed and found a coffee shop in opposite alleys. She was (+-) 40, but looked less. She mentioned she can not stay with me in night because she have work in the massage shop. But offered me, she can find a short time room for me if I want her. I disagreed and asked her, she can come tomorrow 8. 00 am. She can have breakfast with me in my hotel (Breakfast was included with my room). She agreed.
With panty or only with her T-shirt when she moves in my room, I woke up every time. I feel these things were innovated only for her nice body shape. Surprisingly I didn't need any pill for our whole day romping.
From 8:00 am to 5:00 pm I paid her 2000bht.
i know i am writing this in the wrong column, but from a bangkok monger's perspective, it matters as to why i am writing in the bangkok column.
i was in pattaya for the weekend, and wow it is such a nice time to be there.
tourists are at their lowest, most bars and gogo's are going almost customer less.
i went to bars around soi lk metro and went to the world famous devil's den, but i was apparently the first customer in 3 days,
in [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s too, i was the first customer at 12 noon.
most gogos and sports bar were aggressively pulling in customers and beers were going at rock bottom prices at 49 bahts.
i always gave preference to bangkok over pattaya, but this time (in low season) , i felt so much welcoming there,
guys time to catch the 100 bahts van to pattaya, from victory monument and in less than 2 hours, you will be in pattaya and be treated like a king.
enjoy
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1296702]Which small bars have these pretty girls?[/QUOTE]For example Angelwitch, Spanky, Mercury, Mandarin, Erotica 1 and 2.
Only 1 or 2 hot girls each, but isn't that enough?
1500 ST is very easy there, so getting 1000 is probably possible if you are a regular. Do report if you go.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1296967]MeThinks you misread this customer less anomaly. Most bars and agogos are customerless due to LACK of pretty girls. If a bar offer s hot girls customers will be there.
It is same low season in Bangkok also and the bars with pretyy girls are packed! Stuck my head in a customerless nana bar last night-form a quick look see the girls warranted the bar being customerless. LOL.[/QUOTE]Seriously no NO.
I have seen the quality of some of the gogos in Pattaya and they are the same as Bangkok bar girls.
Anyway I respect your POV, even though I beg to differ
Enjoy wherever you can, but I strongly believe Pattaya is an nice alternative
[QUOTE=Harold444;1296638]A girl who gets 3000 in her bar I doubt would also go for 1500 in same bar, its one price or the other. Your claims are just hard to believe.[/QUOTE]Sorry Harold, Oldian is telling the truth. I will vouch for him!
Confirmed that these other places are very thin on talent. Its where the 2nd and 3rd stringers go to work. The only way I would define these girls as hot is if I had just served a long prison sentence and it was my first piece of nookie.
I think I've covered the "very thin on talent" when I said each place only has 1 or 2 beauties (and some days, none if they aren't coming to work).
How many does Rainbow 4 or Bacarra have though? Only a little more actually, maybe 4 or 5.
So in the small bars, you get less beauties but better and cheaper service. There are lots of small bars so you can still find variety.
Where can I barfine a midget?
Too ugly, too fat, too expensive, wants to go home early, etc, etc.
There are so many whiners on this forum that even the French guy is starting to sound like an eternal optimist.
I can go out and find a beautiful, sexy, young, Thai woman in a matter of minutes.
Will she perform? Darn right she will.
Every day 24/7. Bangkok or Pattaya.
You only have yourselves to blame if you don't have a good time. That's right. Because no one else actually gives a rat's ass!
:)
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1297412]Too ugly, too fat, too expensive, wants to go home early, etc, etc.
There are so many whiners on this forum that even the French guy is starting to sound like an eternal optimist.
I can go out and find a beautiful, sexy, young, Thai woman in a matter of minutes.
Will she perform? Darn right she will.
Every day 24/7. Bangkok or Pattaya.
You only have yourselves to blame if you don't have a good time. That's right. Because no one else actually gives a rat's ass![/QUOTE]Rainman,
LOL. Well said :) .
Giotto
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1297412]Too ugly, too fat, too expensive, wants to go home early, etc, etc.
There are so many whiners on this forum that even the French guy is starting to sound like an eternal optimist.
I can go out and find a beautiful, sexy, young, Thai woman in a matter of minutes.
Will she perform? Darn right she will.
Every day 24/7. Bangkok or Pattaya.
You only have yourselves to blame if you don't have a good time. That's right. Because no one else actually gives a rat's ass![/QUOTE]You got the point Fontok. Happy you said it
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1297412]Too ugly, too fat, too expensive, wants to go home early, etc, etc.
There are so many whiners on this forum that even the French guy is starting to sound like an eternal optimist.
I can go out and find a beautiful, sexy, young, Thai woman in a matter of minutes.
Will she perform? Darn right she will.
Every day 24/7. Bangkok or Pattaya.
You only have yourselves to blame if you don't have a good time. That's right. Because no one else actually gives a rat's ass![/QUOTE]I was out Sunday night walked from Hillary Bar to Suk, Across Sukhumvit to Soi 13 maybe, I was mobbed. Every shape form and color, age anyone would want, including Ladyboys.
My best luck is the normal every day merchant met on the BTS or at the food court in Siam. In fact I am having to change the frequency of hook ups as the regular has noticed a decrease in jizz. LOL
Any recommendation for a doctor that would provide me with a prescription for Ambien, and the pharmacy? I've found it hard to find in Pattaya (one sold it to me without a prescription). I'm not going back to Pattaya soon, and I would like to get this medication if possible.
Please let me know. I'm in Bangkok.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1297412]Too ugly, too fat, too expensive, wants to go home early, etc, etc.
There are so many whiners on this forum that even the French guy is starting to sound like an eternal optimist.
I can go out and find a beautiful, sexy, young, Thai woman in a matter of minutes.
Will she perform? Darn right she will.
Every day 24/7. Bangkok or Pattaya.
You only have yourselves to blame if you don't have a good time. That's right. Because no one else actually gives a rat's ass![/QUOTE]GD Right. Learn to make your own fun.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1297412]You only have yourselves to blame if you don't have a good time. That's right. Because no one else actually gives a rat's ass![/QUOTE]Whining? Everyone likes to have something to complain about, even if its silly stuff like how run down the place is. The most annoying complaints are those about people or places the writer doesn't know from own experience.
An important point is that it is reports about having a great time that make the most worthwhile reading, since places that are not good, is largely a matter of opinion. Places (an girls) that get a lot of positive write ups will be those that are worth visiting. That's how the ISG forum can give best value, IMHO. Great experience reports are the winners for me!
And yes of course those that ask endless questions, are automatically boring. Newbies should spend a lot of time reading before being too worried about making many posts.
Everyone should ask themselves, am I contributing anything useful? Will my question be useful to others as well?
Tony: try Mercury in Nana. There is a midget there.
Papae: try the pharmarcies in Patpong.
[QUOTE=Papae Noel; 1297459]Any recommendation for a doctor that would provide me with a prescription for Ambien, and the pharmacy? I've found it hard to find in Pattaya (one sold it to me without a prescription). I'm not going back to Pattaya soon, and I would like to get this medication if possible.
Please let me know. I'm in Bangkok.[/QUOTE]It has been harder to get the last few years. Have you asked for Stilnox? Thats how Ambien is branded in Thailand.
I'm not sure where you're from, but its still pretty easy to get in most western countries through a GP.
Just say you've tried or prefer it to Temazepam and you don't want to take any form of Benzo.
[QUOTE=Papae Noel;1297459]Any recommendation for a doctor that would provide me with a prescription for Ambien, and the pharmacy? I've found it hard to find in Pattaya (one sold it to me without a prescription). I'm not going back to Pattaya soon, and I would like to get this medication if possible. Please let me know. I'm in Bangkok.[/QUOTE]Try any of the big pharmacies across from Chula Hospital on Rama IV Road (near the Cowne Plaza Hotel). They have everything. Cheap, too.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1297407]Where can I barfine a midget?[/QUOTE]Midget? For a mental midget the number is Har-old-444, for a full size midget there is one on Soi 7, just off 2nd Road on the right. She cute too! Oh forgot you never have been to Pattaya and do us a favor don't come.
LBM
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1297407]Where can I barfine a midget?[/QUOTE]By Lebron James' standards? Anywhere in Cambodia & most of Thailand.
Under 5 feet is universal.
Late Night Report.
Last night after ending a really steamy session with an off and on again hook up partner, which closed on a bit of a down note, I decided before going home I'the head out Suk road. Was down here Sunday night after the bars on Soi 4 were closing and the amount of action is grand.
I walked up to Soi 19 in front of Robinsons where the little sidewalk cafes are. I know that girl there sells really cold beer. Sitting there reflecting on the events of the evening, deciding if I'the even try to re connect with my earlier lover.
While in deep thought two girls came up and I offered to buy them a beer which they gladly accepted, of course the usual conversation started where are am I from, holiday, work, etc. One said she cashier at a coffee shop the other not sure what she said she did, mindless banter really. Any way they asked if I'the want to take one for a short time. I explained my earlier exploits and how I doubt if I had the power. The one that called herself (BUD) assured me she could get it up and winking. LOL Within a couple of minutes BUD got up came around the table kissed me and took my hand and instructed her partner in Thai to fall in we were going to a short time motel, We walked down to Soi 15? And got a nice room it was about 3:45 AM.
Into the shower I went and within a couple of minutes both girls were in there giggling and soaping my balls and ass crack, The one that would call less aggressive of the two is named Apple, She has very nice colored hair and white skin, I was making out with Apple while Bud was caressing my unit and balls sliding her finger in my ass and giggling. There were only two towels so I used one and then shared mine with Bud as we hopped on the bed.
They switched positions with Apple sucking on me BBJ, with Bud letting me play with her pussy and suck her tits, When they were satisfied I was up for the ride Bud slipped on the cover and climbed on me, She was fucking me hard, and I was making out with Apple DFK and playing with her pussy. Both of these girls had a decent amount of hair around their pussies, it was trimmed but thick. Not like a lot of the girls I have been banging.
I told them I wanted to finish with Apple, as earlier they were kidding me about getting Apple knocked up so she could have a half farang baby, LOL
I asked Bud to change condoms so I could fuck Apple, she slid off and put a new one on me and I turned Apple over putting a pillow under her ass and slowly slid my cock in her. She held my forearms and Bud was licking my ass and ball sack from behind as I rocked feeling my balls and ass tighten getting ready to shoot off. Kissing Apple deep I thrust in her and blew in the cover, which I really didn't want to do, I really wanted to pull out and have them jerk me to completion. Oh well even the best laid plans sometimes don't go off as intended.
I'm not sure if these girls were too fat, skinny, spoke enough English, (we spoke Japanese most of our conversation) I can't speak Thai, and can better articulate my points in Japanese that they can understand.
Supposed to meet them tonight, I wasn't able to get pictures doing the deed for obvious reasons (only two hands and both were busy) I am posting pre colloidal pics. LOL
How about more fucking and less bitching?
Here are the two artist that picked me up last night.
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[QUOTE=Harold444;1297826]To tell you the truth the reports on actual coittus are no fun. The fun is in the back and forth bantering with gentlemen offering differing viewpoints![/QUOTE]How's your sex life Harold?
Should we call you "Dirty Harry"?
That would be, I believe, Joy's bar. My regular haunt when I want to watch the action walk by. Great lady and knows them all that walk by. Enjoyed the report.
[QUOTE=Monte3; 1297742]Late Night Report.
Last night after ending a really steamy session with an off and on again hook up partner, which closed on a bit of a down note, I decided before going home I'the head out Suk road. Was down here Sunday night after the bars on Soi 4 were closing and the amount of action is grand.
I walked up to Soi 19 in front of Robinsons where the little sidewalk cafes are. I know that girl there sells really cold beer. Sitting there reflecting on the events of the evening, deciding if I'the even try to re connect with my earlier lover.
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[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1298006]Senior and paid members have PM access.[/QUOTE]What makes you a senior member?
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Thanks to the suggestions on pharmacies. Will report back next week (have one remaining Ambien!).
[QUOTE=Monte3;1297742]Late Night Report.[/QUOTE]Nice one! But how much was the damage including the room?
Bangkok Post Today.
New Law: Bounty Hunters are on the lookout for foreigners owning Thai land or Thai Property. Yes, another one aimed at killing of tourism and foreign business interests. The new law states bounty hunters will get 20% of the land or property market value. Amazing Thailand. Always just amazes me. See full story below.
Thai ombudsmen is drafting a carrot-and-stick law to protect Thai lands from illegal foreign nominee ownership, while developers and consultants suggest more legal transparency, a longer leasehold period and higher foreigner property taxes to prevent nominees.
Siracha: Think of the children.
Ombudsman Siracha Charoenpanij said the new law would comprise punishment for companies offering advice to foreigners on how to hold Thai property by disguising their legal transaction. This would include law firms and consultants.
The existing law enforced by the Lands Department requires foreigners found holding Thai property to transfer the plot to someone else or sell it within 180 days.
"The new law includes a reward to anyone providing information about foreigners owning land through nominees. They will get 20% of the market price of that piece of land as a reward after the plot is sold," he said at a seminar on foreign property ownership yesterday held by the Thai Appraisal Foundation.
The new law would also deport foreigners found guilty of holding land plots in Thailand illegally.
Ombudsmen will submit the draft to parliament this year, and Mr Siracha thinks there is backing for the bill.
"Anyone related to the property business may be unhappy with this bill as it will make the market rigid. But this law can help protect the land for the next generation of Thais," he said.
He pointed to a new scheme where foreigners disguise their ownership similar to multi-level marketing, where they are buying shares of an agricultural company that grows rice on large plots in the northeast.
"I've heard there was a broker buying land plots throughout a tambon in Surin to cultivate Hom Mali rice," he said."If such an act is not prevented, will there be any land left for our children?"
Suphin Mechuchep, managing director of property consultant Jones Lang LaSalle (JLL) (Thailand) , said any new law should not weaken Thailand's competitiveness. Yet too free a market would lead to a bubble, so balance is needed, she added.
"We should have transparency if we want foreigners to comply," she said.
She suggested clarity in regulations so foreigners could estimate their investment. Longer leasehold periods such as 50 or 90 years would lower their risk from the current 30 years, she added.
When laws are clarified, she accepted Thailand may charge higher taxes on foreigner property transactions than on those of Thais.
Atip Bijanonda, president of the construction and real estate business department of the Thai Chamber of Commerce, agreed there needs to be balance while still welcoming foreign investment.
He suggested the government set guidelines for foreigners, forbidding their purchase of land banks, farm land, property in border areas, and locations related to the country's security. Foreigners are permitted to buy land in industrial estates because they generate income and employment. Residential units near industrial estates are allowed for foreign investors or executives working there to bring their compatriots to visit Thailand.
[QUOTE=Kid Icarus;1298118]Nice one! But how much was the damage including the room?[/QUOTE]500 B Three Hour Short Time, some place just before the Beer Garden on Soi 19 on the left.
And 3000 total or 1500 a piece for the girls, now you or some may say I over paid,
However I fucked them again last night long time, with better results.
Will post the report later.
I have done this before with girls who were lovers and invited me to join, Went ok a couple of times but one of the two that is less Lez, takes some heat for liking the cock too much, whether thats the reality or not. These two just like to fuck drink and have fun, in that regard they are just like me!
[QUOTE=Harold444;1298084]Do girls at baccara actually make money?[/QUOTE]Of course they do. I was in Baccara last April and saw this one skinny "Japan Doll" making a group of Japanese businessmen quite crazy. They were almost fighting between each other to put 100 baht banknotes in her panties and bra.
Hehehe, little did they know that for one LD she would sit with you and a allow you much more liberties.
went to rainbow 4 and sat down in the booth, i just went for beer and to relax for the most part. and to see if i could get a stunner for 1. 5k lt hehe.
i was viewing the dancers on stage doing a dance routine that would put the dallas cowboy cheerleaders to shame, noticed a girl to my left smiling and then waving. she must have smelled my japanese blood lol. she came over and introduced herself, i didn't catch her number but her name was pooh. she went on to say like winnie the pooh haha. this girl had braces and was as cute as a button. chatted her up and said her prices were 2k for st and 4k for lt.
i didn't even bother asking if she would accept 1. 5k for lt lol. i'm thinking some of the fat ones on stage might go for that rate? not really into heffers though. afterwards, i peeked my head into spankys and looked for some hotties but didn't see any. just ugly girls with frankenstein-esque looking mugs!
[QUOTE=Harold444;1298403]Be careful-are you admitting you patronized a JAP bar. LOL. GO to shARKSat8-29 pm and get the happy hour drink price. You get to see the full complement of girls, quite a deal for the 4th best bar for lookers.[/QUOTE]So Harold, if Sharks is #4, what are the top three gogo bars for lookers right now?
Has anyone here tried the Sukhumvit-psycho. Com Premium Service? Is it worth it? Quite frankly, I'm getting frustrated at searching through 20 pages of off-topic comments for information on this board.
[QUOTE=Big Bob II;1298511]Has anyone here tried the Sukhumvit-psycho. Com Premium Service? Is it worth it? Quite frankly, I'm getting frustrated at searching through 20 pages of off-topic comments for information on this board.[/QUOTE]There's hardly any posts there. You can find everything on here that you could find here and then some.. Just feel free to ask questions, that's what we're here for.
[QUOTE=Big Bob II;1298509]So Harold, if Sharks is #4, what are the top three gogo bars for lookers right now?[/QUOTE]I would say Baccarra by a mile is #1, then the Rainbow 4 in Nana. Not sure about #3. Maybe Tilac? General rule of thumb is the more crowded, the more hot girls there. But you'll have some folks whose standards are low and will say stunners roam the smaller bars. But like the chupacabra, I haven't seen it yet.
[QUOTE=Big Bob II;1298511]Quite frankly, I'm getting frustrated at searching through 20 pages of off-topic comments for information on this board.[/QUOTE]Yup, sad but true. Your best bet is to search the "Distinction" threads, from a couple of years back. That will give you a road-map and then the best thing to do is try them out. YMMV
Despite being in BKK for 6 times, I haven't utilized the go go or the club scene much[ though I had my share of fun, thanks to the Forum]. Will be spending a wk starting from next week. Thought of booking an escort for 24 hrs (Eros Bangkok says they will do it for 7 K) and take it from there, the idea being explore the key areas as vividly described in our Forum. As the schedule include some business also a w man idea may not work.
Will it be a foolish idea to pursue? Appreciate the Senior pundits advise&suggestions
[QUOTE=Big Bob II;1298511]Has anyone here tried the Sukhumvit-psycho. Com Premium Service? Is it worth it? Quite frankly, I'm getting frustrated at searching through 20 pages of off-topic comments for information on this board.[/QUOTE]Instead of whining, you should show the example and POST something useful yourself. Looks like you also post off-Topic shit 90% of the time. The pot calling the Kettles Black.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1298587]Looks like you also post off-Topic shit 90% of the time.[/QUOTE]We're [including myself] are all often guilty of this. Be happy, Italy won yesterday! :D
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1298587]Instead of whining, you should show the example and POST something useful yourself. Looks like you also post off-Topic shit 90% of the time. The pot calling the Kettles Black.[/QUOTE]Something useful then. Ok I've been reading the posts for the past month or so and frankly I have found nothing new (with few exceptions) about where to get a good shag in Bangkok at a reasonable price. So I will share my recent experiences. Best root recently was with Focus in EZ Soi 26, young, killer bod and when you get her going both a fun and highly responsive experience. Now it takes because of her age. 18 patience but well worth the effort. Incidently while they will try do not pay full whack up front. Also recently had a great experience at Tarntip Soi 7/1, ostensibly a straight up massage shop that I happened upon where a young very cute lass called cannot remeber but sounded like Jim or Jam gave the most amazing erotic massage that I have had in LOS. Limited to a HJ but her guiding your hand exploring firstly her clothed body that after a little feigned reluctance becomes her naked body ends with a technically superior as they say in Thailand finish. 500 and she was more than happy.
[QUOTE=Big Bob II;1298509]So Harold, if Sharks is #4, what are the top three gogo bars for lookers right now?[/QUOTE]Harold doesn't fuck (his own admission). He could be, (just could be a hermaphrodite) so asking him for advice is useless.
[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1298601]We're [including myself] are all often guilty of this. Be happy, Italy won yesterday! :D[/QUOTE]Traveler and Tony, thanks for the advice. Looking forward to my first trip to Bangkok, and yes, I will post a FR. NickFrenchy, it's comments like yours that are the reason I'm looking elsewhere. Too much warring, not enough sharing. As the late Rodney King would say,"Can't we all just get along?"
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1298647]Harold doesn't fuck (his own admission). He could be, (just could be a hermaphrodite) so asking him for advice is useless.[/QUOTE]
H4444 is just like a pimple on a cowboy's butt.
Useless, yet painfully annoying! ;)
[QUOTE=Big Bob II;1298674]NickFrenchy, it's comments like yours that are the reason I'm looking elsewhere. Too much warring, not enough sharing.[/quote]Ha! Dude, I contributed to this forum more than you ever will in your lifetime! And be my guest, if you want to look elsewhere, just don't come here and publicly cry about it like someone will give a crap.
[quote]As the late Rodney King would say,"Can't we all just get along?"[/QUOTE]Let's see, Politicians don't get along, Clergymen or Muslim or any other Religious assholes don't get along, pimps and hookers don't get along, Sports rivals don't get along, Why should we?
How boring and Dull would the forum be without a little bit of controversy and fuckups?
I LOVE that people don't get along, it makes for an interesting forum.
And, don't blame the users for your incapacity of using the search, it's the way this forum is organised (or disorganised) that is at the root of the problem.
Now I have a nice hour to waste, let's go and get a nice BJ
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1298761]H4444 is just like a pimple on a cowboy's butt.
Useless, yet painfully annoying! .[/QUOTE]Hahahahaha that had me laughing my ass off
[QUOTE=Monte3; 1298182]500 B Three Hour Short Time, some place just before the Beer Garden on Soi 19 on the left.
And 3000 total or 1500 a piece for the girls, now you or some may say I over paid,
However I fucked them again last night long time, with better results.
Will post the report later.
I have done this before with girls who were lovers and invited me to join, Went ok a couple of times but one of the two that is less Lez, takes some heat for liking the cock too much, whether thats the reality or not. These two just like to fuck drink and have fun, in that regard they are just like me![/QUOTE]Have done Bud 3-4 times, she is a 1000 baht girl, but she also gets 2 from the Japanese at the Thermae. You didn't overpay, she does have a good attitude, and likes to fuck and drink. Only make sure the windows are closed with her or she'll wake half the neighborhood!
[QUOTE=Purayil; 1298532]Despite being in BKK for 6 times, I haven't utilized the go go or the club scene much[ though I had my share of fun, thanks to the Forum]. Will be spending a wk starting from next week. Thought of booking an escort for 24 hrs (Eros Bangkok says they will do it for 7 K) and take it from there, the idea being explore the key areas as vividly described in our Forum. As the schedule include some business also a w man idea may not work.
Will it be a foolish idea to pursue? Appreciate the Senior pundits advise&suggestions[/QUOTE]I have been mongering in Thailand on and off for 20 years. Did I ever need an escort? No. Its just too easy to find girls and I like to choose a girl that meets my specs. With an escort you could get lucky. Why book one for a long period until you are sure she suits you? Are you looking for a fuck or a guide? Escorts will probably not make the best guide.
Most guys want to fuck as many different girls as possible. Not me. I would rather stick to a few really good ones. Your idea would be much better if you already knew the girl and knew how she is. 7k is quite expensive but the best escorts would probably charge more than that for 24 hours (guessing) , so I would be concerned about the quality they would send you. Think you want to see a set of unphotoshopped pics first. Even then, the best looking girl could have an incompatible personality, and even be a girl who doesn't like sex much. I recall a stunner from Long Gun who was useless on the bed (for me).
What I do understand, for someone with very limited time, is that you might not want to waste time looking for girls, and have someone constantly available. However even an escort won't want to fuck 24 hours. Best to have a more varied experience I think. Guys have been known to have their Beergarten girl become a guide and show them around Bangkok LOL but I wouldn't do that myself.
Try some recommended easy gogos. Maybe the club scene is too difficult unless you have plenty of time, but try it. Try everything once is my moto (with limits. Not ladyboys). Sure, try an escort, but I recommend ST first up until you are sure its working great for you. I never go LT with any girl until I feel I really like them and its working well.
[QUOTE=Waylon;1298614]. a straight up massage shop that I happened upon where a young very cute lass called cannot remeber but sounded like Jim or Jam gave the most amazing erotic massage that I have had in LOS. Limited to a HJ but her guiding your hand exploring firstly her clothed body that after a little feigned reluctance becomes her naked body ends with a technically superior as they say in Thailand finish. 500 and she was more than happy.[/QUOTE]Jim is not a common name, but still possible, as it is a more polite way of saying "pussy" in Thai, depending on the tone. Jam is more likely. It puzzles me why I see many guys (commonly) finish the report with "and she was more than happy" as though they are justifying a low payment."He who protests too much?" When a girl doesn't complain, I don't interpret that as "she was more than happy". She could be silently seething. However if she smothered him with kisses after the 500 tip, then I would say she was "more than happy". Its not always easy to tell with Thai girls just how happy they are, unless they are very demonstrative (and no acting).
Its easier not to comment on how much was tipped these days, to avoid forum flack. 500 is normal payment for HJ, however I would tip more if I had throughly molested the girl as well. I don't see a big difference between putting a dick in her pussy and putting fingers other than a covered dick isn't going to scratch, and a dick could cause more bruising. In this case Waylon doesn't fully describe what he did, so I am not suggesting his payment was wrong at all.
I remember one time I was driving from Tampa to Cocoa Beach, Stopped for a cool drink in Lakeland. Some girl walked up to my car and asked if I wanted a blow job. She didn't look half bad, Not like some that are up 3 days and have not had a bath in 5.
I told her all I had was 8. 00 USD and I was intending on eating with 5. 00 of that. She thought for a second and said,"If you promise to come quick I'll do it!"
Did I pay too much? Just Asking?
I went to Baccara last night for the first time in a while.
The downstairs girls were very much catering to the Japanese, looks wise. I'm really not a big fan of that look myself.
The upstairs girls seemed to all have silicone and sporty bodies and darker, less Japanese looks.
Were several very pretty girls even by my picky standards, and a lot of mediocre girls.
One of the upstairs girls sat down next to me uninvited. She was my type and sort of socially abnormal in a really attractive way.
Quoted me 2500 ST however, and said I had to buy 2 drinks before I took her out. Said no and was ready to drop her, but she offered 2000 and I accepted.
Was decent overall. Have had better and have had worse, but was enjoyable.
Total cost 2000 ST + 600 barfine + 470 for drinks + 350 for hotel = 3420 baht = $110 US.
Ehhh. Not quite worth it compared to the massage parlors.
Baccara's too expensive
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1298855]It puzzles me why I see many guys (commonly) finish the report with "and she was more than happy" as though they are justifying a low payment."He who protests too much?" When a girl doesn't complain, I don't interpret that as "she was more than happy". She could be silently seething. However if she smothered him with kisses after the 500 tip, then I would say she was "more than happy". Its not always easy to tell with Thai girls just how happy they are, unless they are very demonstrative (and no acting).[/quote]Exactly. Spot on!
It's possible to barfine a Bacarra girl without paying the 2 lady drinks, I've done it many times. Just FYI.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1298855]Jim is not a common name, but still possible, as it is a more polite way of saying "pussy" in Thai, depending on the tone. Jam is more likely. It puzzles me why I see many guys (commonly) finish the report with "and she was more than happy" as though they are justifying a low payment."He who protests too much?" When a girl doesn't complain, I don't interpret that as "she was more than happy". She could be silently seething. However if she smothered him with kisses after the 500 tip, then I would say she was "more than happy". Its not always easy to tell with Thai girls just how happy they are, unless they are very demonstrative (and no acting).
Its easier not to comment on how much was tipped these days, to avoid forum flack. 500 is normal payment for HJ, however I would tip more if I had throughly molested the girl as well. I don't see a big difference between putting a dick in her pussy and putting fingers other than a covered dick isn't going to scratch, and a dick could cause more bruising. In this case Waylon doesn't fully describe what he did, so I am not suggesting his payment was wrong at all.[/QUOTE]I live by the 500/1000/1500 HJ / BJ / FS tariff for the bill of fare at a massage shop. Whatever extra spices or sauces are added to the basic dish are gratefully accepted but a HJ is not a BJ no matter how good. Now there are considerations such as BB, extra shots, all holes, photos etc which may need to be negociated depending on the provider however my experience at Tarntip didn't qualify. I did ask her how much and she said up to you and while I wasn't showered with kisses when I gave the 500 I did get a smile and a wai hense the "more than happy".
[QUOTE=Oldian;1298845]Have done Bud 3-4 times, she is a 1000 baht girl, but she also gets 2 from the Japanese at the Thermae. You didn't overpay, she does have a good attitude, and likes to fuck and drink. Only make sure the windows are closed with her or she'll wake half the neighborhood![/QUOTE]That's too funny, As we were making our way back up Suk the second night, One of the Tokyo fellows made a gesture at her and she responded, I'm sure he's bounced that ass a time or two also.
I'm probably going out again this week late Monday or Tuesday. Hopefully to discover some new talent. If not I'd probably take just Bud alone one more time with out the other girl. I can multitask, just not as young and as in shape as I used to be.
With two girls in their prime, after a few drinks. I fatigue quickly.
[QUOTE=Monte3;1298876]I told her all I had was 8. 00 USD and I was intending on eating with 5. 00 of that. She thought for a second and said,"If you promise to come quick I'll do it!"Did I pay too much? Just Asking?[/QUOTE]That meal at 5USD was far too much.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1298926]Exactly. Spot on![/QUOTE]"Very demonstrative and not acting".
You should know by now Nic that that is a contradicion.
Hi All,
My first time posting in this form.
My buddy and I, Californians, are looking for something different and since neither of us have been to Asia, we thought this country would be good for a change of scene for us.
We both are in our early 50's and been mongering in the Dominican Republic for the last 10 years. Rates there are about 40 USD ST for pretty face model type body girls. LT runs about double that.
Anyway a buddys brother has a condo in BK and he travels there every 3 months. The last year he has been using the place as a base and jumping straight to Atlantic City PI. He says the Japanese, Koreans, Chinese with money and cheap weekend flights have driven the prices quite a bit. This has also changed the girls expectations so much that he now goes to AC for most all his activities. So I am being told to consider skipping Thailand and go straight to AC. The brother is a little odd though and I don't have 100% confidence in his information which is why I am posting here. I just saw GentalBoners post below. 19164, and the information concerns me.
In the DR it is truly $40 ST with your own room. In Thailand it is not against protocol to use your own room is it? Do the other costs really nickel and dime the price to the $110 just for ST? ! If so. Wow.
So what can two very seasoned ho-mongers, wise to all the games ho's play in this cat and mouse game expect to pay in the popular places both ST and LT? Is it really like GentalBoners posts? I realize Asia is a new game for us and we might look like easy-know-nothing-pray to the locals and that would tack a hidden premium on the price of pussy there. We learn very fast though.
Is there a sticky post anywhere for the newbies, detailing the where to go's, places to stay, things to watch out for, diversions, etc? A sticky would be really nice. I saw the sukhumvit-psycho website which seems kind of useless. I know about the reports of distinction, BK hotels thread.
One friend says to go just for the soapies.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Ehunter;1299100]In the DR it is truly $40 ST with your own room. In Thailand it is not against protocol to use your own room is it? Do the other costs really nickel and dime the price to the $110 just for ST? ! If so. Wow.[/QUOTE]You will be able to find someone cute and slim for about 2000 - 3000 baht + 600 baht barfine from most of the agogos and she will stay with you the whole night and take good care of you. Girls from the beerbars will be cheaper and streetwalkers even cheaper still.
But the big bonus for agogo girls is that (1) you can get a good look at her during her dance routine (many dance topless and some agogos in Soi Cowboy offer full frontal nudity) and (2) for the price of a ladydrink you get to spend some time with her and you can gauge her attitude better and even sample a bit of her wares.
Maybe I am just a lucky guy, but I was never disappointed when I took someone from a Soi Cowboy agogo, Suzie Wong being my favourite hunting spot.
[QUOTE=Ehunter; 1299100]Hi All,
My first time posting in this form.
My buddy and I, Californians, are looking for something different and since neither of us have been to Asia, we thought this country would be good for a change of scene for us.
We both are in our early 50's and been mongering in the Dominican Republic for the last 10 years. Rates there are about 40 USD ST for pretty face model type body girls. LT runs about double that.
Anyway a buddys brother has a condo in BK and he travels there every 3 months. The last year he has been using the place as a base and jumping straight to Atlantic City PI. He says the Japanese, Koreans, Chinese with money and cheap weekend flights have driven the prices quite a bit. This has also changed the girls expectations so much that he now goes to AC for most all his activities. So I am being told to consider skipping Thailand and go straight to AC. The brother is a little odd though and I don't have 100% confidence in his information which is why I am posting here. I just saw GentalBoners post below. 19164, and the information concerns me.
In the DR it is truly $40 ST with your own room. In Thailand it is not against protocol to use your own room is it? Do the other costs really nickel and dime the price to the $110 just for ST? ! If so. Wow.
So what can two very seasoned ho-mongers, wise to all the games ho's play in this cat and mouse game expect to pay in the popular places both ST and LT? Is it really like GentalBoners posts? I realize Asia is a new game for us and we might look like easy-know-nothing-pray to the locals and that would tack a hidden premium on the price of pussy there. We learn very fast though.
Is there a sticky post anywhere for the newbies, detailing the where to go's, places to stay, things to watch out for, diversions, etc? A sticky would be really nice. I saw the sukhumvit-psycho website which seems kind of useless. I know about the reports of distinction, BK hotels thread.
One friend says to go just for the soapies.
Thanks![/QUOTE]Value for money and performance wise the Oilies like, Mango, Tulip, and Snow White are the best values out there.
Sounds like the DR is a great place to be budget wise. A GoGo gal in BKK will cost you 2k + 600 + Drinks (450 baht- 2 for you. 1 for her) = 3150 so about 100 USD for a ST, and most likely the gal will want to get in and get out as quick as possible. You are paying over twice what you would in the DR.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1298913]I went to Baccara last night for the first time in a while.
The downstairs girls were very much catering to the Japanese, looks wise. I'm really not a big fan of that look myself.
The upstairs girls seemed to all have silicone and sporty bodies and darker, less Japanese looks.
Were several very pretty girls even by my picky standards, and a lot of mediocre girls.
One of the upstairs girls sat down next to me uninvited. She was my type and sort of socially abnormal in a really attractive way.
Quoted me 2500 ST however, and said I had to buy 2 drinks before I took her out. Said no and was ready to drop her, but she offered 2000 and I accepted.
Was decent overall. Have had better and have had worse, but was enjoyable.
Total cost 2000 ST + 600 barfine + 470 for drinks + 350 for hotel = 3420 baht = $110 US.
Ehhh. Not quite worth it compared to the massage parlors.
Baccara's too expensive[/QUOTE]Yes, it is, as are all the GoGos. Can really blame the Arab for all the price increases on Cowboy. Before he bought his bevy of bars (first one being Midnight, which was wonderful before he acquired it) , Cowboy was the land of 400 bath bar fines and no gal would dare ask or expect more than 1k for ST. Of course drinks were 100 baht as well, so for under 2k you could have a nice time. Tis twice that now.
[QUOTE=Ehunter; 1299100]Hi All,
My first time posting in this form.
My buddy and I, Californians, are looking for something different and since neither of us have been to Asia, we thought this country would be good for a change of scene for us.
We both are in our early 50's and been mongering in the Dominican Republic for the last 10 years. Rates there are about 40 USD ST for pretty face model type body girls. LT runs about double that.
Anyway a buddys brother has a condo in BK and he travels there every 3 months. The last year he has been using the place as a base and jumping straight to Atlantic City PI. He says the Japanese, Koreans, Chinese with money and cheap weekend flights have driven the prices quite a bit. This has also changed the girls expectations so much that he now goes to AC for most all his activities. So I am being told to consider skipping Thailand and go straight to AC. The brother is a little odd though and I don't have 100% confidence in his information which is why I am posting here. I just saw GentalBoners post below. 19164, and the information concerns me.
In the DR it is truly $40 ST with your own room. In Thailand it is not against protocol to use your own room is it? Do the other costs really nickel and dime the price to the $110 just for ST? ! If so. Wow.
So what can two very seasoned ho-mongers, wise to all the games ho's play in this cat and mouse game expect to pay in the popular places both ST and LT? Is it really like GentalBoners posts? I realize Asia is a new game for us and we might look like easy-know-nothing-pray to the locals and that would tack a hidden premium on the price of pussy there. We learn very fast though.
Is there a sticky post anywhere for the newbies, detailing the where to go's, places to stay, things to watch out for, diversions, etc? A sticky would be really nice. I saw the sukhumvit-psycho website which seems kind of useless. I know about the reports of distinction, BK hotels thread.
One friend says to go just for the soapies.
Thanks![/QUOTE]As others have pointed out, the go go girls are certainly a bit more expensive than the girls in the DR (and they are better looking with less drama!) ; I've had good ones from Soi Cowboy for 1500 baht+600 bar fine and no drink, so you can do cheaper than others have posted here. But the best value is streetwalkers near Nana; I've had several very nice ladies for 1000 baht and no bar fine since they are on the street. They are not the best looking but sometimes can be the most fun. 1000 baht is in the neighborhood of what you were paying for ladies in the DR. I've been both places and can say overall the experience is better in Thailand than some of the loco crazies I've put up with in Sosua. My two cents.
[QUOTE=Ehunter; 1299100]Hi All,
My first time posting in this form.
My buddy and I, Californians, are looking for something different and since neither of us have been to Asia, we thought this country would be good for a change of scene for us.
We both are in our early 50's and been mongering in the Dominican Republic for the last 10 years. Rates there are about 40 USD ST for pretty face model type body girls. LT runs about double that.
Anyway a buddys brother has a condo in BK and he travels there every 3 months. The last year he has been using the place as a base and jumping straight to Atlantic City PI. He says the Japanese, Koreans, Chinese with money and cheap weekend flights have driven the prices quite a bit. This has also changed the girls expectations so much that he now goes to AC for most all his activities. So I am being told to consider skipping Thailand and go straight to AC. The brother is a little odd though and I don't have 100% confidence in his information which is why I am posting here. I just saw GentalBoners post below. 19164, and the information concerns me.
In the DR it is truly $40 ST with your own room. In Thailand it is not against protocol to use your own room is it? Do the other costs really nickel and dime the price to the $110 just for ST? ! If so. Wow.
So what can two very seasoned ho-mongers, wise to all the games ho's play in this cat and mouse game expect to pay in the popular places both ST and LT? Is it really like GentalBoners posts? I realize Asia is a new game for us and we might look like easy-know-nothing-pray to the locals and that would tack a hidden premium on the price of pussy there. We learn very fast though.
Is there a sticky post anywhere for the newbies, detailing the where to go's, places to stay, things to watch out for, diversions, etc? A sticky would be really nice. I saw the sukhumvit-psycho website which seems kind of useless. I know about the reports of distinction, BK hotels thread.
One friend says to go just for the soapies.
Thanks![/QUOTE]You can definitely use your own hotel room and avoid the hotel fee.
But minimum you're going to pay 1500 ST + 600 barfine + 300ish for drinks, which is US$75.
If you go to one of the really popular Japanese gogo bars like Baccara, they might insist on 2000 ST, which is an extra $15.
You can go to massage parlors and pay around 1900 baht for a full hour ST, which is $60 US. Not a bad deal compared to other countries.
Freelancers might be the best way to go. Usually 1500 with no barfine or drink fee.
Streetwalkers are a bit rough for me, but some guys enjoy them. 1000 ST.
I wouldn't say skip Thailand altogether, because it can be quite an experience, but maybe try some other countries in Asea too if you don't want to be spending $100+ every night for girls.
ok.
q. is an agogo the same as a gogo dancer girl club? at first i thought 'agogo' was a typo but it does not seem so.
q. an oilie is a massage parlor. right? where the soapies are?
dr is a great place to go for the money, but like anywhere, there are caveats. i am able to pull girls cheaper than what i quoted for two reasons. for one i am a better than average looking white guy the girls prey on, and two, i am bilingual spanish (they can not tell it is not my native language). to be successful in the dr you have to be wise to their hustle so am able to eliminate the games involving money / service just because i am language fluent. in thailand i am not expecting the same. i have no idea what level of hustle is pulled so you guys can help me out there too if you please.
in the dr you have to be careful with your hotel allowing one or more girls with you, every night, that are dressed like complete hos with a ho personality to boot. what are things like in thailand? if a girl comes to the hotel with you looking like a complete ho, are they going to let her in with me? qualifying dr hotels will cost you $60night for one of the nicer places with security. the security in the dr will confirep001e the girls i'd and give it back to her when she leaves and there have been no problems.
q. what is the cost of a clean comfortable hotel that will allow the hard core hos. are they hard to find?
it 'is' true the number of hot girls in the dr is far less than thailand. but again, me-myself, the girls consider me at the top of the food chain being a white guy plus a spanish speaker. so i don't have many problems pulling the best ones at better pricing as the girls want to be comfortable too knowing what kind of guy they are going with. most guys coming to the dr for the first time will get hustled / ripped off a couple times before learning the game and how to minimize their risk.
yes, the dr has more than their share of the loco-crazies like you say. thank god my spanish helps me filter that stuff out.
q. what is the difference between bk and the pattaya beach ho-scene? i read that many guys flop back for forth between the two. is the pricing more / less the same for the girls / hotels etc? i have been looking at youtubes of the places and i am kind of excited.
I was out last night, tried to learn how to tweet (- Giotto_BKK) during night tours. Details in my forum
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2419-Giotto-s-Lodge-in-Bangkok[/URL] .
I found an excellent Gogo Bar in Patpong. [b]Bada Bing[/b]. I have never been there before. It's located in a small side road that connects Soi 2 with the market, close to Silom. The place is well managed, has lots of customers, clean, nicely and modern decorated, the prices are ok. And lot's of young girls. From all Gogo bars I have seen in Patpong this one is by far the best. If you like young girls with a reasonable attitude - go there. A good place!
Giotto
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[quote=ehunter;1299163]q. is an agogo the same as a gogo dancer girl club?[/quote]yes, it is.
[quote=ehunter;1299163]q. an oilie is a massage parlor. right? where the soapies are?[/quote]indeed, it is one form of mp. you have the regular mps with no hanky-panky allowed; you have the mps that will give you a happy ending (hj of bj) ; the "oilies" that include fs (some of them even allowing multiple pops) and the "soapies" that have a bath routine including bbbj and fs.
[quote=ehunter;1299163]dr is a great place to go for the money, but like anywhere, there are caveats. i am able to pull girls cheaper than what i quoted for two reasons. for one i am a better than average looking white guy the girls prey on, and two, i am bilingual spanish (they can not tell it is not my native language). to be successful in the dr you have to be wise to their hustle so am able to eliminate the games involving money / service just because i am language fluent. in thailand i am not expecting the same. i have no idea what level of hustle is pulled so you guys can help me out there too if you please.[/quote]you will see there is far less hustle in thailand than anywhere else. the girl will state her price for her services (st being up to two hours, but generally only 1 pop; lt being the whole night, traditionally twice before going to sleep and once in the morning) , you get some chance for negotiating, but if she is not willing to drop her price, you just smile, thank her for her time and move to the next girl. remember to always smile. speaking some thai (even if it is limited to the general "sawadee khrap" greeting, but don't "wai" her) will help to create a better feeling. asking her name and then calling her "[i]name[/i]-ja" ("ja" has the meaning of "lovely") from time to time, can do no harm too.
[quote=ehunter;1299163]in the dr you have to be careful with your hotel allowing one or more girls with you, every night, that are dressed like complete hos with a ho personality to boot. what are things like in thailand? if a girl comes to the hotel with you looking like a complete ho, are they going to let her in with me? qualifying dr hotels will cost you $60night for one of the nicer places with security. the security in the dr will confirep001e the girls i'd and give it back to her when she leaves and there have been no problems.[/quote]i never had any problem to get the girl come to my room. the more secure hotels will indeed require to see her id, some keep the id, some make a copy of it. no problem at all. the reception staff has seen it all too many times already. most of the agogo girls change into t-shirt and jeans before coming with you and they look just like 90% of all the other girls on the street. don't hold hands or kiss / hug her on the streets because that will certainly "mark" her as a sw. she will walk next to you or follow you to your hotel. just like a regular thai gf.
[quote=ehunter;1299163]q. what is the cost of a clean comfortable hotel that will allow the hard core hos. are they hard to find?[/quote]1000 - 2000 baht / night will get you something nice and don't worry: your companion will not look like a hardcore ho. the "walk of shame" thing does not exist in thailand, business as usual in most of the hotels.
[quote=ehunter; 1299163]it 'is' true the number of hot girls in the dr is far less than thailand. but again, me-myself, the girls consider me at the top of the food chain being a white guy plus a spanish speaker. so i don't have many problems pulling the best ones at better pricing as the girls want to be comfortable too knowing what kind of guy they are going with. most guys coming to the dr for the first time will get hustled / ripped off a couple times before learning the game and how to minimize their risk.
yes, the dr has more than their share of the loco-crazies like you say. thank god my spanish helps me filter that stuff out.[/quote]i think you will find the thai attitude to sexual services refreshingly different: no drama, just good clean fun between consenting adults.
[quote=ehunter;1299163]q. what is the difference between bk and the pattaya beach ho-scene? i read that many guys flop back for forth between the two. is the pricing more / less the same for the girls / hotels etc? i have been looking at youtubes of the places and i am kind of excited.[/quote]pattaya is generally somewhat cheaper, but the difference is not huge. the main difference is that bkk is a boutique store with a few rld areas only (compared to the size of the whole of bkk, the rld areas for farangs are really miniscule) , whereas pattaya is a mega-sex-shopping mall, very much "in your face" and it opens already in the early afternoon. the agogo scene in bkk is second to none and much better than "walking street" in pattaya (which i always found a big disappointment) , but mps (of all kinds) , beerbars and streetwalkers come in such volume and variety in pattaya you do not want to miss it.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1298828]I LOVE that people don't get along, it makes for an interesting forum.[/QUOTE]Well I guess it's good that someone at least enjoys flames. Myself, I prefer to see posts with some substance and info, and in a more adult tone.
You seem to still be too busy with other things to share your long-ago-promised / never-delivered 'system'. [wink] I remember a while back, one guy came up with a detailed system for picking up on the internet, and he shared it here. You shot it down and said your system was better. We're still waiting for that.
The total number of posts impresses me a lot less than the substance of what gets said.
Any suggestion for action of any kind if I'm stuck overnight at or real near Suvarnabhumi Airport?
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1299187]1000 - 2000 baht / night will get you something nice and don't worry: your companion will not look like a hardcore ho. The "walk of shame" thing does not exist in Thailand, business as usual in most of the hotels.[/QUOTE]Well, less so than perhaps anywhere else. But I will state that the dancer from Whats Up? I barfined last week in Pattaya was rather self-conscious in the lobby of the Furama Jomtien, a fading property about 30 minutes by baht bus from Walking Street.
Of all people, some mainland Chinese fuckers were looking at her and talking about her. My lovely said she returned them with a hard stare, good girl. ("I hate Chinese!" she told me when we went to the breakfast buffet at the hotel the next day, before telling me what had happened.) Funny thing, and I'll get all racist, but I will make this observation.
In mainland China, the amount of money you have has an inverse relation with the amount of class you have, unlike most places elsewhere. And simply put, it is because the vast majority of wealth there is ill-gotten, and you cannot buy class. Which makes the the knowledge they were giving my girl the going-over all the more grating. (And as if those porkers aren't buying hookers in their homeland.)
Over breakfast the girl was still quite self-conscious and unnerved (whereas most of the girls I have dined with could not give a fuck what others think)."You know why they are looking at me, right?"
"Yes, darling, I do, and I am sorry about that."
[QUOTE=Wildhawk; 1299208]Well, less so than perhaps anywhere else. But I will state that the dancer from Whats Up? I barfined last week in Pattaya was rather self-conscious in the lobby of the Furama Jomtien, a fading property about 30 minutes by baht bus from Walking Street.
Of all people, some mainland Chinese fuckers were looking at her and talking about her. My lovely said she returned them with a hard stare, good girl. ("I hate Chinese!" she told me when we went to the breakfast buffet at the hotel the next day, before telling me what had happened.) Funny thing, and I'll get all racist, but I will make this observation.
In mainland China, the amount of money you have has an inverse relation with the amount of class you have, unlike most places elsewhere. And simply put, it is because the vast majority of wealth there is ill-gotten, and you cannot buy class. Which makes the the knowledge they were giving my girl the going-over all the more grating. (And as if those porkers aren't buying hookers in their homeland.)
Over breakfast the girl was still quite self-conscious and unnerved (whereas most of the girls I have dined with could not give a fuck what others think)."You know why they are looking at me, right?"
"Yes, darling, I do, and I am sorry about that."[/QUOTE]Indeed, Chinese "tourists" are a real pain-in-the-ass lot.
Last May I was visiting the temple complex of what Yannasang Wararam Woramahawihan in Thailand with my Thai GF. As is usual in Thailand (and many other countries) one takes of one's shoes before entering.
Just before we arrived, a group of Chinese tourists entered and they all (none excepted!) managed to drop their shoes in front of the door, none using the storage space provided left and right of the door!
Inside the stupa, their guide provided some commentaries in a rather loud voice. I do not know if it is perhaps a property of the Chinese language but it seems that it always sounds rather loud. Or perhaps the guide just had to shout because the majority of his flock paid no attention to what he was saying and happily carried on their conversations (again in a rather loud voice).
Then, when we were making merit in front of the altar on the upper floor, the group of Chinese tourists entered this room as well (and none too discretely) and tried to walk in front of us, in other words, between us and the altar.
Now it may very well be that none of these Chinese were Buddhists, but even an atheist (as myself) knows that it is simply not done to cross between someone paying respect at an altar and the altar. I am sure that these Chinese know that very well, but they simply did not care.
My lovely GF made an angry face at these tourists and told them to move behind us. I am not sure whether they understood any Thai, but the meaning of what she said surely came across and they walked behind her.
And this is not the only incident we had with groups of Chinese tourists: generally they are loud and show no respect. I really wonder if they act the same in their own country or whether they only do so when abroad.
[QUOTE=TConor;1299192]Any suggestion for action of any kind if I'm stuck overnight at or real near Suvarnabhumi Airport?[/QUOTE]At what time will you arrive and how long will you be "stuck" at the airport? Will you be between international flights (which means you have to pass through immigration two times) or domestic flights? Have you been in Thailand before and know how to deal with taxis and such? Do you want a "massage" (regular with happy ending, oily or soapy) or porn-style threesome sex?
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1299182]Lots of girla and lots of customers. Sounds like a winner to me. Now if only it is true?[/QUOTE]Harold444,
You definitely suck! Why don't you simply shut up? [b]Do we really have to remove you?[/b]
I was there [Bada Ding] last night, that's why I wrote that report. There were a good number of customers and a good number of girls. Just go there, and write your own report.
I was in Kangoroo's BJ bar, too. I counted 8 girls and besides me and a friend 3 more customers. Do you want to question that, too?
Why don't you just leave and go back to your Kindergarten?
Giotto
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Let me preface this all by saying that the first year I was in Bangkok I used to like the Gogo bars and used to barfine girls all the time. I hate all that stuff about "oh it was so much better 10 years ago" and firmly believe it is the individuals perception that changes and NOT the overall scene (anybody turning up in Pattaya or Bangkok for the first time will STILL be as blown away as I was 20 years ago).
Last night having just come back from that god awful place Dubai and with the wife away I was pretty desperate to bust a nut. For something different I thought I would go for a no holds barred visit to the Gogo bars of Nana and Cowboy and find me the most smoking hot girl possible and pay whatever was required with no regard to cost. What a dissapointment the evening turned out to be.
I visited Baccara, Kiss, Tilac, Rainbow 4, Mandarin, Angel Witch, and about 5 others inbetween. Despite all that I still came away empty handed with just the search having cost me well over 1, 000 baht (some bars I just poked my head in, others I sat down and had a drink and bought drinks for girls).
There were some ok looking girls but absolutely NO stunners at all. Of the better looking girls the attitudes were soso at best. Having been here long enough I know which girls that charm will dissapear from as soon as the barfine is paid. Seeing good looking girls who are asking for 2, 000 baht short time (we are talking the top 20% of the bar) plus the bar fine and then the short time room and just KNOWING you will get perfunctory service at best was just completely unnappealing.
It was a good reminder of why I have never seen Gogo's as a P4P option for the last 6 or 7 years. To me it is just a total waste of time. I think it says a lot about Bangkok that an extremely horny guy with an unlimited budget can visit the best gogo's in Bangkok and a load of others in between and still walk away empty handed (I recognise that a lot of that is to do with me being jaded by the scene). All this is to mention nothing of the scores of single guys sitting on their own on one side of the bar while the girls all sit alone on the other side of the bar playing angry birds (pun intended).
So after 3 hours of searching I walked down Soi 23 on my way home and saw a delightful 20 year old in one of those massage parlours there. She was'ny the best girl I had seen but like so many non gogo places she was bright, friendly and bubbly and for 1, 500 baht all in you just KNOW you will have a great time. Great massage, BBJ, full sex and cum on her tits, fun girl, great personality, warm, welcoming and excellent value for money.
For me the BEST service and best experience in Bangkok is in the massage places. Always has been and always will be. Its where you find the Thailand experience that you read about and the attitude is ALWAYS infinitely better.
Why on earth anyone would bother with Gogos is beyond me. Head for the massage places. They are just SOOOO much better in every way. Stunners or not.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1299224]Indeed, Chinese "tourists" are a real pain-in-the-ass lot.
Last May I was visiting the temple complex of what Yannasang Wararam Woramahawihan in Thailand with my Thai GF. As is usual in Thailand (and many other countries) one takes of one's shoes before entering.
Just before we arrived, a group of Chinese tourists entered and they all (none excepted!) managed to drop their shoes in front of the door, none using the storage space provided left and right of the door!
Inside the stupa, their guide provided some commentaries in a rather loud voice. I do not know if it is perhaps a property of the Chinese language but it seems that it always sounds rather loud. Or perhaps the guide just had to shout because the majority of his flock paid no attention to what he was saying and happily carried on their conversations (again in a rather loud voice).
Then, when we were making merit in front of the altar on the upper floor, the group of Chinese tourists entered this room as well (and none too discretely) and tried to walk in front of us, in other words, between us and the altar.
Now it may very well be that none of these Chinese were Buddhists, but even an atheist (as myself) knows that it is simply not done to cross between someone paying respect at an altar and the altar. I am sure that these Chinese know that very well, but they simply did not care.
My lovely GF made an angry face at these tourists and told them to move behind us. I am not sure whether they understood any Thai, but the meaning of what she said surely came across and they walked behind her.
And this is not the only incident we had with groups of Chinese tourists: generally they are loud and show no respect. I really wonder if they act the same in their own country or whether they only do so when abroad.[/QUOTE]Just my opinion as a Chinese. I have been to China many years prior to Thailand and have done my share of tours throughout China. Coming from a family that are buddhists the manner in which Chinese practice is very different than the Thai, in general in my opinion we don't take it so serious nor do we have to pray so much by going to the temple. Another opinion from me is that for a country that prays and adhere to so much trandition then go out in the morning and do completely the opposite sometimes makes me wonder.
In general particularly the southern Chinese are very loud and pushy they must be Hakka like my family. In the old days at family gathering they are loud and in time they get even louder. You are correct it is common sense when someone is praying one doesn't walk in front, if they have to they usually lower their head and body some. Just the fact when your lovely girlfriend told them to move behind and they didn't complain and walk behind lead me to believe they didn't know regardless of being a tourist as we all know being a tourist in groups sometimes people do stupid things and not out of respect.
Being in lot of tours throughout Asia I in your case blame the tour guide and the Thais who recieve the group to be the blame for not explaining to the Chinese Tour guide the tradition. And I like you a hypocrite (not being religious etc) or atheist I do go just to make the misses happy just like you? But I know many True Atheist and they never would venture into a temple even for pussy so I wouldn't consider you a Atheist but as Thai say " up to you "
LBM
[QUOTE=Bowerboy; 1299255]For something different I thought I would go for a no holds barred visit to the Gogo bars of Nana and Cowboy and find me the most smoking hot girl possible and pay whatever was required with no regard to cost. What a dissapointment the evening turned out to be.
I visited Baccara, Kiss, Tilac, Rainbow 4, Mandarin, Angel Witch, and about 5 others inbetween. Despite all that I still came away empty handed with just the search having cost me well over 1, 000 baht (some bars I just poked my head in, others I sat down and had a drink and bought drinks for girls).
There were some ok looking girls but absolutely NO stunners at all. Of the better looking girls the attitudes were soso at best. Having been here long enough I know which girls that charm will dissapear from as soon as the barfine is paid. Seeing good looking girls who are asking for 2, 000 baht short time (we are talking the top 20% of the bar) plus the bar fine and then the short time room and just KNOWING you will get perfunctory service at best was just completely unnappealing.[/QUOTE]From my previous posts you will see I am a big fan of the agogo bars in Soi Cowboy, BUT only for LT.
I feel that if you take a girl out of an agogo for ST, she has the (vain) hope of getting back to her establishment and score another ST / LT that evening, so you are more likely than not to get a rushed service from a girl who has no intention of spending any extra time to make you "happy". Then you are indeed better off in a soapy or an oily.
But if you can invest the time for LT, then agogos are second to none IMHO.
[QUOTE=Bowerboy; 1299255]L.
For me the BEST service and best experience in Bangkok is in the massage places. Always has been and always will be. Its where you find the Thailand experience that you read about and the attitude is ALWAYS infinitely better.[/QUOTE]With my limited experience, I agree. Some time ago I was coming on the MRT from visiting a friend, got on Sutthisan, I believe. As I entered the car I noticed a real sweet looking girl standing there in a nice dress. I smiled she smiled back. I greeted her, telling her she looked very pretty. She smiled and returned the compliment with a thank you. We chatted for a moment with me leaning into her close enough to whisper in her ear being as discreet as possible. She smelled good like Channel perfume. After a moment I joked I should be spending the rest of the afternoon with her, to my surprise she said she couldn't do all after noon however I could have a two hour session. I backed up and looked, she said she worked at EZ massage over on Soi 24.
Needless to say it was everything I wanted, and have repeated a couple of times, Cat is her name and she is not afraid to get any jizz on her or in her mouth.
This happened another time when I was getting on the BTS at On Nut, same thing, met a cutie and chatting she invited me to come over for a massage. Both times better than average service.
[QUOTE=Ehunter; 1299100]Hi All,
My first time posting in this form. In the DR it is truly $40 ST with your own room. In Thailand it is not against protocol to use your own room is it? Do the other costs really nickel and dime the price to the $110 just for ST? ! If so. Wow.
Is there a sticky post anywhere for the newbies, detailing the where to go's, places to stay, things to watch out for, diversions, etc? A sticky would be really nice. I saw the sukhumvit-psycho website which seems kind of useless. I know about the reports of distinction, BK hotels thread. One friend says to go just for the soapies![/QUOTE]Well, those 110$ were a bit ovest spent. Too much LD etc, I would say. Oneof course is free to indulge in spending for a good time. Depends also what the priorities are. If you keep it a minimum, but still ok, you can save some 30. Nevertheless, one way or the other, a couple of hours (that is a decent ST) will not cost less than 2/2500 baht. Let's face it. Be it with a gogo girl (where you need to add LD and bar fine to the official or negotiated rate) , an oily (where a FS means 1500 plus house fees) , or a soapie (check rates of Annie's as an example). You can still keep it low with a FL at Nana Parking (or along sukhumvit) with a good 1000baht and take her to your hotel. Probably the only way to level down the costs of a decent ST. All this without wandering through the town as a desperate guy in search of the cheapest opportunity, just to rick a box rather than having a good and relaxing time.
[QUOTE=Bowerboy; 1299255]Let me preface this all by saying that the first year I was in Bangkok I used to like the Gogo bars and used to barfine girls all the time. I hate all that stuff about "oh it was so much better 10 years ago" and firmly believe it is the individuals perception that changes and NOT the overall scene (anybody turning up in Pattaya or Bangkok for the first time will STILL be as blown away as I was 20 years ago).
It was a good reminder of why I have never seen Gogo's as a P4P option for the last 6 or 7 years. To me it is just a total waste of time.
Why on earth anyone would bother with Gogos is beyond me. Head for the massage places. They are just SOOOO much better in every way. Stunners or not.[/QUOTE]Go Go bars are where the good looking young women are supposed to be. Ofcourse it varies from bar to bar. Also depends on the time of the day. Most good looking women are barfined early and some are kept for many days.
These bars do offer a good entertainment. Me and my Thai gf liked to go to go go in the evenings just to have couple of drinks and watch and talk. Cannot stay in the room and fuck all the time.
Even if I am alone I like the atmosphere. If I find the right girl I will barfine her.
I have gotten good service from massage girls also. You can take out massage girls for ST or LT to your room. Generally I do not like sex with them in massage places. Regular massage only.
In Pattaya I would go to massage places and ask the boss to show me good looking young girls and I would take the LT. They are happy because no need to work hard that day except have sex with me.
Ofcourse I make her as my gf for dinner and dancing etc.
Only thing is in Massage places only some girls can be taken out. Also depends on how many girls are working that day. But once you become friends with the boss, he or she will help you.
I have used the same tactic in USA also in Korean massage places albeit worked out little more expensive.
[QUOTE=Waylon; 1299059]"Very demonstrative and not acting".
You should know by now Nic that that is a contradicion.[/QUOTE]No, I don't. English being my 3rd language.
How many languages do you speak?
[QUOTE=TConor;1299192]Any suggestion for action of any kind if I'm stuck overnight at or real near Suvarnabhumi Airport?[/QUOTE]Repeated question gets a repeated answer.
Don't bother staying there. Go to town. Nana is 30' (max 45' with traffic) cab drive away at a cost not over 300 baht.
Heaven will then open to you and you will not regret.
But first RTFF as it seems you didn't yet.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1299224]Indeed, Chinese "tourists" are a real pain-in-the-ass lot.
And this is not the only incident we had with groups of Chinese tourists: generally they are loud and show no respect. I really wonder if they act the same in their own country or whether they only do so when abroad.[/QUOTE]They misbehave everywhere, including their home country. Lining is an option for them. Quite rude behaviour, passing ahead of anybody with elbow movements. Worst experience I had when visiting The Great Wall in the neighbourhood of Bejing. They are also always very loud in their talkings. Discretion is not part of their DNA. Look when you go to a sauna in China and you are taken to rooms. Your moving around is announced by loud shouting from one guy to the other.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1299260]Just my opinion as a Chinese. And I like you a hypocrite (not being religious etc) or atheist I do go just to make the misses happy just like you? But I know many True Atheist and they never would venture into a temple even for pussy so I wouldn't consider you a Atheist but as Thai say " up to you "
LBM[/QUOTE]One can still visit churches, temples, mosques as part of his personal culture enrichment, regardless of his own belief or the fact there is some pussy along.
[QUOTE=Wendella;1299189]You seem to still be too busy with other things to share your long-ago-promised / never-delivered 'system'. [wink] I remember a while back, one guy came up with a detailed system for picking up on the internet, and he shared it here. You shot it down and said your system was better. We're still waiting for that.[/QUOTE]Well, you seemed to have read between the lines, I said my system was different and that my system yielded higher conversion.
But sorry your whole life depends on that report, I'll post it whenever I feel like it and now, I don't have the motivation to do so [wink]
I have shared my system with a Senior member here, one that I meet and know and I reckon he has had good success with it already.
To each their own.
The thing I said about the other dude's system was that his contact / sex ratio could never be higher than mine as he depends on volume (contacting many girls on a daily basis) and I focus on a much lower number but only girls I am really interested in.
Also, as the other dude was recommending, arrange a meet with the girl in a coffee shop, look from afar and if the girl is not nice, just take off. I find this highly unethical and disrespectful. If you like it, your call.
[quote=ehunter; 1299163]dr is a great place to go for the money, but like anywhere, there are caveats. to be successful in the dr you have to be wise to their hustle so am able to eliminate the games involving money / service just because i am language fluent. in thailand i am not expecting the same. i have no idea what level of hustle is pulled so you guys can help me out there too if you please.
in the dr you have to be careful with your hotel allowing one or more girls with you, every night, that are dressed like complete hos with a ho personality to boot. what are things like in thailand? if a girl comes to the hotel with you looking like a complete ho, are they going to let her in with me? qualifying dr hotels will cost you $60night for one of the nicer places with security. the security in the dr will confirep001e the girls i'd and give it back to her when she leaves and there have been no problems.[/quote]boy are you in for a pleasant surprise. compared to the dr there is 90% less bullshit or "hustle" as you call it in thailand and the pi. in bkk and pattaya the worst thing you have to be unguard for from a go go girl or massage girl is a starfish session. interview the girls before you take one. read her body language and treat her nice. it cuts down on this to almost zero. in ac the one big thing you might face from a bar girl is a runner type. one or two sessions and then at 2am she says she has to take care of granny or her kid. interview them well before you take them, treat them nice and this is not going to happen too often.
[quote=ehunter; 1299163]i kind of enjoy navigating the dominican hustle and i really don't know what to expect in asia. do they play all the same games that are played in south america? do you ever have to worry about getting ripped off or robbed? what is the pick-pocket scene like. nothing like copacabana or the dr i hope?[/quote]no games and only a very small chance of getting robbed from a go go bar girl. but prepare your room in advance and put your valuables in the safe or locked up in your suitcase. they may hit your wetbar, but so what. be a good guy and let them enjoy it. there is practicaly no bs in thailand of the type you are used to in the dr. imho there is no comparison between the dr and los period! thai girls are much better in looks, personality, and overall vibe. the girls of the philippines (ac = angeles city) are closer to what you are used to in the dr in terms of looks, but filipinas are the most gfe women in the world, so again ac is so much better than the dr, there is no comparison.
to justify the long and more expensive flight to asia, i recommend you plan at least a 3 week trip. spend a week in bkk, a week pattaya, and 5 days in ac / 2 days in manila. i assure you you won't give another thought to the dr.
some comments and prices:
ac girls come in 2 price points – 1500p lt and 3000plt depending on the bar and girl classification. the price is all inclusive. this is really a good deal considering all the loving you are going to get. the better hotels are a little pricey ($75 to $100 / night) , but there are plenty of cheaper alternatives. every place is girl friendly – multiple girl friendly! so have a party and take as many girls as you want back to your hotel room.
bkk (this is a great world class city so prices are on the high side. on the other hand, this is where you will find the most beautiful thai girls.)
bkk girls 1. go go's – 600bk bar fine plus 1500 – 2000bk for st / 3000bk lt depending on the girl. 2. oily massage parlors – around 2000bk inclusive for 2 hours porn star experience. read up on mango & snow white. 3. soapies – anywhere from 2000bk to 6000bk for 90 minutes depending on the place and the class of girl selected. this is the venue with the best looking girls. think classy men's club. there is a hotel glut and so hotels are very reasonable in bkk. all price ranges. make sure your hotel is girl friendly before booking.
pat – this place is the epic center for thai pussy. there are more girls here per square meter than anywhere else in the world. you have to see it to believe it!
girls are available at many price points. 1. walking street go go's – 600 – 1000bk bar fine and 1500bk – 2000bk st / 2500bk – 4000bk lt depending on the bar and the girl. top talent is here. 2. lk metro go go's – 600bk bar fine 1500bk st / 2500bk lt. soi 6 bars – 300 bar fine and charge for use of a room upstairs and 700 st. coconut bar (fl's on beach road) 500 - 700bk st / 1000bk to 1500bk max lt.
like bkk, there are many hotels to choose from at reasonable prices. make sure your hotel is girl friendly before booking.
manila is a damn good place too. there is lots of action. burgos st bars are the most expensive option – average is 4000p lt, but could go higher. edsa entertainment complex a little less, around 4000p lt. havana (greenbelt 3) fl's - 2000p lt. manila bay club fl's 1000p to 1500p max st / 2500p lt max. all hotels are gf.
i hope this helps. my main point is asia is going to blow you away. don't hesitate to come here. some guys who have been here a real long time get very picky. they forget what it felt like the first 10 times they visited asia. i assure you that you will love bangkok and everything it has to offer, you will be blown away by pattaya, and you will not believe ac and those friendly filipinas. you will kick yourself in the ass that you hung around the dr for so long when you could have been enjoying the real thing in asia.
one more thing, this being your first trip, i would try the all major venues of a particular destination you choose. for example, in bkk hit at least 4 go go's, at least one oily massage parlor and at least one soapy and see which type of venue and girl works best for you. ditto for pattaya; hit at least 5 walking street go go's, visit some soi 6 bars, check out the lk metro area, and take a walk down beach road. ac is pretty much a one horse town (like the wild west). there is basically only girly bars. a hundred or so. some are large show places others are smaller more intimate places. fields and perimeter are the same street. every bar on fields is easy walking distance. take a tuk tuk to the perimeter bars. rtff!
main thing – have fun.
[QUOTE=Bowerboy;1299255]For me the BEST service and best experience in Bangkok is in the massage places. Always has been and always will be. Its where you find the Thailand experience that you read about and the attitude is ALWAYS infinitely better.[/QUOTE]This reminds me of a time not too long ago when I was getting on the MTS, I entered the car and immediately.
Found my self standing next a real cutie. We exchanged pleasantries and I admired her nice tight body. I leaned in close enough to
Inhale her fragrance and look into her eyes, said something like I should go with you this afternoon. She replied "up to you"!
She works at EZ massage off of Soi 24 her name is Cat, she is not afraid to get cum on her or in her mouth.
A bit prior to this I met a cute little spinner down at On Nut BTS she was also a massage girl, both of these girls have provided better than average service.
I never have been a fan of going to a go go bar, Fucking overrated over priced bad attitude bitches, that have nothing over a chick that's really wanting.
Stand out amongst the crowd.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1299187]Indeed, it is one form of MP. You have the regular MPs with no hanky-panky allowed; you have the MPS that will give you a happy ending (HJ of BJ) ; the "oilies" that include FS (some of them even allowing multiple pops) and the "soapies" that have a bath routine including BBBJ and FS.[/QUOTE]There are two places I read about with multiple pops. They are the Devils Den and Eden. They are high on my interest list.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1299187]Speaking some Thai (even if it is limited to the general "sawadee khrap" greeting, but don't "wai" her) will help to create a better feeling. Asking her name and then calling her "[i]name[/i]-ja" ("ja" has the meaning of "lovely") from time to time, can do no harm too.[/QUOTE]Iam going to see if there is an app for my iPhone for a Rosetta stone or Sybervision language learning. It makes a huge difference in potential service. BTW-This raises another topic of cell phones. I have my US cell phone ATT plan and have no idea if Thailand travel will prompt ATT to rake me over the coals for using it there. What do mongers usually do from a smart phone perspective? It is somewhat important in the DR for off hours hook-ups / repeats with girls. I am guessing more-so in Thailand with the over abundance of girls. Trying to find that same girl would be like trying to find the needle in the haystack.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1299187]Most of the agogo girls change into t-shirt and jeans before coming with you and they look just like 90% of all the other girls on the street. Don't hold hands or kiss / hug her on the streets because that will certainly "mark" her as a SW. She will walk next to you or follow you to your hotel. Just like a regular Thai GF.
1000. 2000 baht / night will get you something nice and don't worry: your companion will not look like a hardcore ho. The "walk of shame" thing does not exist in Thailand, business as usual in most of the hotels.[/QUOTE]Great advice and am happy to hear this. I know about the Hotels Thread but it is full of posters banter. I was hoping to see there, a list of all the monger preferred hotels, having prices, pluses and minuses, website, etc. I maintain a list over on the DR threads (see post 237 on the Sosua Hotels threads). Having something like this saves tons of time deciding where to hotel-up with all the pluses / minuses that go with the different places.
My information is probably outdated. But I seem to remember talk of BJ bars where the beer drinking patron scoots his stool / chair / body further under the table. He then gets a BJ from girls crawling around under the tables which is completely out of everybodys vision. I thought this was Thailand. Does this kind of stuff exist?
[QUOTE=Wildhawk;1299208]In mainland China, the amount of money you have has an inverse relation with the amount of class you have, unlike most places elsewhere. And simply put, it is because the vast majority of wealth there is ill-gotten, and you cannot buy class. Which makes the the knowledge they were giving my girl the going-over all the more grating. (And as if those porkers aren't buying hookers in their homeland.)[/QUOTE]I know exactly what you are talking about.
Here in the US there is an in-flood of Chinese and I see exactly the same thing going on. I can be standing there a quarter step back from what I am looking at on a table, and the Chinese will squeeze in front of me so they can take a look as well, not realizing what I am looking at only to block 100% of my vision.
The same people when walking down a crowded area, I find myself sidestepping all the Chinese walking towards me like I am a pacman. If I consciously hold my ground I can get them to move so we don't collide. It is like I am playing a game of chicken.
Anyway, I think this is cultural, brought on by a country having too many people, and me being raised to be too-conscious / polite of other people around me.
I agree with your inverse relation theory. I see exactly the same thing here in the good-ole USA in areas of high Chinese population.
[QUOTE=TConor; 1299192]Any suggestion for action of any kind if I'm stuck overnight at or real near Suvarnabhumi Airport? [/QUOTE]I'm pretty much a new comer to this board, albeit a senior member on the brother site. If you happen to stuck over night or for a few hours there are two fishbowls off of King Kaeo road on the west side of the airport. One is called Miracles, not to be confused with hotel of the same name, the hotel about 2 KLM south on the same road.
Directly across the street from Miracles is a little place called Zone Karaoke Both have a decent selection of girls ranging in price from 1500 B to 2500 B. Don't be afraid to negotiate.
The
BTW King Kaeo is pronounced King COW
Be kind enough to post a report.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1299336]Boy are you in for a pleasant surprise. Compared to the DR there is 90% less bullshit or "hustle" as you call it in Thailand and the PI.[/QUOTE]GREAT POST Natty.
I have got to start organizing all this great information before I loose it.
[quote=ehunter;1299339]there are two places i read about with multiple pops. they are the devils den and eden. they are high on my interest list.[/quote]eden is more well known. if you rtf the forum you will get quite a bit of info on it.
[quote=ehunter;1299339]iam going to see if there is an app for my iphone for a rosetta stone or sybervision language learning. it makes a huge difference in potential service. btw-this raises another topic of cell phones. i have my us cell phone att plan and have no idea if thailand travel will prompt att to rake me over the coals for using it there. what do mongers usually do from a smart phone perspective? it is somewhat important in the dr for off hours hook-ups / repeats with girls. i am guessing more-so in thailand with the over abundance of girls. trying to find that same girl would be like trying to find the needle in the haystack.[/quote]if you have att from us have it unlocked and buy a local sim card. if you use att service be prepared to pay anywhere about$2-4 per minute incoming and outgoing. local sim lot cheaper and no charge for incoming.
[quote=ehunter;1299339]great advice and am happy to hear this. i know about the hotels thread but it is full of posters banter. i was hoping to see there, a list of all the monger preferred hotels, having prices, pluses and minuses, website, etc. i maintain a list over on the dr threads (see post 237 on the sosua hotels threads). having something like this saves tons of time deciding where to hotel-up with all the pluses / minuses that go with the different places.[/quote]hotels on sukhumvit are best for 1st time visitor. hotels in all price range from 1 star to 5 star.
[quote=ehunter;1299339]my information is probably outdated. but i seem to remember talk of bj bars where the beer drinking patron scoots his stool / chair / body further under the table. he then gets a bj from girls crawling around under the tables which is completely out of everybodys vision. i thought this was thailand. does this kind of stuff exist?[/quote]dr. bj, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and sol comes to mind. rtf for more info. never a fan of bj bars and you can only enjoy it if you put a paper bag over your head after being blindfolded.
[QUOTE=Ehunter;1299339]There are two places I read about with multiple pops. They are the Devils Den and Eden. They are high on my interest list.[/QUOTE]Eden is in BKK and Devil's Den is in Pattaya. I have never been to Devil's Den, but Eden is something you will want to experience. Rooms with mirrors on all sides and on the ceiling. If you cannot stand seeing yourself fucking, don't go there.
Standard game is two girls and 90 minutes and cum as much as you can. It seems no request is too strange for them. They come to the room with a bag full of "tools" such as dildoes, vibrators, strap-ons. Porn-star experience. Don't go there if you want beautiful girls giving you a GFE. Most of the girls working there are a bit "older", say in their thirties, and have seen some mileage.
If you want multiple pops, the soapies are a good place. Annies offers BBBJ and then FS during a two hour session. Two pops is the standard there. Horny studs might be able to squeeze in (out?) a third pop. Presumably the same goes for the oilies, but I am not a specialist of these. The usual massage shops give you a "happy ending" and that ends the fun.
[QUOTE=Ehunter;1299339]Iam going to see if there is an app for my iPhone for a Rosetta stone or Sybervision language learning. It makes a huge difference in potential service. BTW-This raises another topic of cell phones. I have my US cell phone ATT plan and have no idea if Thailand travel will prompt ATT to rake me over the coals for using it there. What do mongers usually do from a smart phone perspective? It is somewhat important in the DR for off hours hook-ups / repeats with girls. I am guessing more-so in Thailand with the over abundance of girls. Trying to find that same girl would be like trying to find the needle in the haystack.[/QUOTE]I bought the cheapest old style NOKIA I could find (only phone and SMS service) and put a pre-paid Thai sim card in. It served all my needs.
Forget about learning Thai quickly, unless you are really into languages. I speak 4 languages fluently and can understand a handful more, but Asian languages escape me (until now). The "tonal" element kills me every time. Just learn a few standard sentences: it will be enough. Then get a Thai GF and let her teach you the language.
[QUOTE=Ehunter;1299339]Great advice and am happy to hear this. I know about the Hotels Thread but it is full of posters banter. I was hoping to see there, a list of all the monger preferred hotels, having prices, pluses and minuses, website, etc. I maintain a list over on the DR threads (see post 237 on the Sosua Hotels threads). Having something like this saves tons of time deciding where to hotel-up with all the pluses / minuses that go with the different places.[/QUOTE]Goto.
[url]http://booking.com[/url]
(or similar web-sites) and choose any hotel in the lower numbered Thanon Sukhumvit area (say up to Soi 30 or so) , chances are extremely high they will be "guest friendly" if you buy a double room. In case of doubt, just e-mail them and ask. Booking.com has good users' reviews. Check out the "solo traveler" reports. Or go to.
[url]http://www.bargirlfriendlyhotels.com/bangkok-girl-friendly-hotels/[/url]
But many many more guest-friendly hotels are available than on this list.
[QUOTE=Ehunter;1299339]My information is probably outdated. But I seem to remember talk of BJ bars where the beer drinking patron scoots his stool / chair / body further under the table. He then gets a BJ from girls crawling around under the tables which is completely out of everybodys vision. I thought this was Thailand. Does this kind of stuff exist?[/QUOTE]Of course it exists! Star of Light is the archetypical BJ-bar, sleazy as sleazy goes, but there are others too. For a funny description of SOL, look here:
[url]http://bangkokbarfine.wordpress.com/2011/02/06/star-of-light-bangkok/[/url]
Dr. BJ is the latest addition to this kind of service providers, but it is not a "bar" where you get your BJ at the bar. You choose your girl and take her to an on-premisse room. You will find it in the same soi as Eden.
[quote=ehunter;1299339]i seem to remember talk of bj bars where the beer drinking patron scoots his stool / chair / body further under the table. he then gets a bj from girls crawling around under the tables which is completely out of everybodys vision. i thought this was thailand. does this kind of stuff exist?[/quote]sounds like sol. never been to sol, but at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s you choose from a crowd of girls sitting around outside (go early for good lighting) , then go upstairs and sit on a ratty bench that can be curtained off for the head-bobbing treat. 800 for service but it's pretty mechanical.
dr. bj's salon, which is new, is another option. there i think you select your girl and head off to a small room with a recliner. much discussion of bj's. search the forum.
both of them offer full service options at higher prices.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1299313]Well, you seemed to have read between the lines, I said my system was different and that my system yielded higher conversion.
But sorry your whole life depends on that report, I'll post it whenever I feel like it and now, I don't have the motivation to do so [wink]
I have shared my system with a Senior member here, one that I meet and know and I reckon he has had good success with it already.
To each their own.
The thing I said about the other dude's system was that his contact / sex ratio could never be higher than mine as he depends on volume (contacting many girls on a daily basis) and I focus on a much lower number but only girls I am really interested in.
Also, as the other dude was recommending, arrange a meet with the girl in a coffee shop, look from afar and if the girl is not nice, just take off. I find this highly unethical and disrespectful. If you like it, your call.[/QUOTE]Nic, I believe you had already shared your systeam. First have online chat with the girl, then on webcam, if you like the girl then develop relationship with her, call her and sleep with her. Do not repeat the girl unless she is awesome.
Dear readers,
After an absence of about one year I finally arrived at BKK again.
The first place I entered was 'Lollipop' at Sukhumvit Soi 10.
When you walk on Sukhumvit from Nana its the first soi after the park at your right.
For your convenience they have placed a nice sign with an arrow and an inviting picture.
I entered this BJ-bar at around 0940 am and was greeted by a friendly young girl which name I already forgot really fast.
A fast glimps along the girls faces made my decision by choosing this girl to help me unload my load.
We entered the building and the woman behind the counter asked me if I wanted a drink.
I asked for some water and the girl of my choice grabbed her working-gear, some disinfecting wet towels.
We walked through the door and walked to the back of the building passing a vapourising animal for some scented air.
I entered a room and sat down at a big lounge-chair while being naked from the waist down.
The girl was gone for a couple of seconds and entered the room while I was sitting with a hard-on.
She started to clean my cock and when it was done she started her job.
She sucked my cock slowly with some hand-action.
It felt good but she didn't suck really deep.
She was open for some corrections and followed directions.
I was already satisfied for my 700 Baht.
I was really horny and when I felt it was time to cum I shot it all in her mouth.
Satisfied and up and running in 20 minutes.
'Lollipop' gave me a good first experience and I can recommend it!
Gr. Rick666
[QUOTE=Ehunter;1299339]This raises another topic of cell phones. I have my US cell phone ATT plan and have no idea if Thailand travel will prompt ATT to rake me over the coals for using it there. What do mongers usually do from a smart phone perspective? It is somewhat important in the DR for off hours hook-ups / repeats with girls. I am guessing more-so in Thailand with the over abundance of girls. Trying to find that same girl would be like trying to find the needle in the haystack.[/QUOTE]As others have pointed out, ATT will indeed rake you over the coals as you say. Getting a local SIM card is essential, especially if you want to use the internet on your smartphone. I find that being able to consult ISG is extremely useful.
When you arrive at BKK airport, go to any one of the mobile phone stores on Level 2. I used DTAC, and got a new SIM with a local number and 30 days of all you can eat local calling and internet access. This cost less than 900 baht, and was extremely useful. I am sure the other providers have similar deals. The whole process took less than 15 minutes, including activation of service.
[QUOTE=Bowerboy; 1299255]Let me preface this all by saying that the first year I was in Bangkok I used to like the Gogo bars and used to barfine girls all the time. I hate all that stuff about "oh it was so much better 10 years ago" and firmly believe it is the individuals perception that changes and NOT the overall scene (anybody turning up in Pattaya or Bangkok for the first time will STILL be as blown away as I was 20 years ago).
Last night having just come back from that god awful place Dubai and with the wife away I was pretty desperate to bust a nut. For something different I thought I would go for a no holds barred visit to the Gogo bars of Nana and Cowboy and find me the most smoking hot girl possible and pay whatever was required with no regard to cost. What a dissapointment the evening turned out to be.
I visited Baccara, Kiss, Tilac, Rainbow 4, Mandarin, Angel Witch, and about 5 others inbetween. Despite all that I still came away empty handed with just the search having cost me well over 1, 000 baht (some bars I just poked my head in, others I sat down and had a drink and bought drinks for girls).
There were some ok looking girls but absolutely NO stunners at all. Of the better looking girls the attitudes were soso at best. Having been here long enough I know which girls that charm will dissapear from as soon as the barfine is paid. Seeing good looking girls who are asking for 2, 000 baht short time (we are talking the top 20% of the bar) plus the bar fine and then the short time room and just KNOWING you will get perfunctory service at best was just completely unnappealing.
It was a good reminder of why I have never seen Gogo's as a P4P option for the last 6 or 7 years. To me it is just a total waste of time. I think it says a lot about Bangkok that an extremely horny guy with an unlimited budget can visit the best gogo's in Bangkok and a load of others in between and still walk away empty handed (I recognise that a lot of that is to do with me being jaded by the scene). All this is to mention nothing of the scores of single guys sitting on their own on one side of the bar while the girls all sit alone on the other side of the bar playing angry birds (pun intended).
So after 3 hours of searching I walked down Soi 23 on my way home and saw a delightful 20 year old in one of those massage parlours there. She was'ny the best girl I had seen but like so many non gogo places she was bright, friendly and bubbly and for 1, 500 baht all in you just KNOW you will have a great time. Great massage, BBJ, full sex and cum on her tits, fun girl, great personality, warm, welcoming and excellent value for money.
For me the BEST service and best experience in Bangkok is in the massage places. Always has been and always will be. Its where you find the Thailand experience that you read about and the attitude is ALWAYS infinitely better.
Why on earth anyone would bother with Gogos is beyond me. Head for the massage places. They are just SOOOO much better in every way. Stunners or not.[/QUOTE]Agreed with 1000. Nowhere in this country have I felt more like an ATM than in gogo bars. The places like Baccara or Rainbow 4 these days are just rip off joints beyond belief, with attitudes a mile long to boot. Of course everyone has their own likes, but being someone who favors Thai-Chinese lookalikes with white skin, needless to say, the gogos can be sorely lacking. I'd also say that in most of the gogos I have been in, on a given night the average talent at the Thermae is far superior. Granted, most of the girls there only want Japanese customers, but if you are going to blow 2000 +6-700+2 lady drinks (already over 3000) , you can flash 2000 at the right Thermae stunner and be off. The main plus of the gogos is that the girls are young and you can see what you are getting, but having been here long enough, I tend to look for something a little more interesting than just hot young without much of a clue or much to say. With you all the way, go to an oily, find a freelancer, but leave the gogos for the first timers.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1299304]They misbehave everywhere, including their home country. Lining is an option for them. Quite rude behaviour, passing ahead of anybody with elbow movements. Worst experience I had when visiting The Great Wall in the neighbourhood of Bejing. They are also always very loud in their talkings. Discretion is not part of their DNA. Look when you go to a sauna in China and you are taken to rooms. Your moving around is announced by loud shouting from one guy to the other.[/QUOTE]Rudness is your definition but to the Chinese it is the norm! Not only in China but in Chinatown in San Francisco where I grew up! There have been many times I was buying things waiting in line and my own people cut in from as if I'm invisiable? There are times I let it go there are times I don't? If they are older than me I let it go only if I'm feeling good that day and they don't look like they are dying. There is a bus line in S. F. Call the 30 Stockton it runs from a rich area to downtown and it has to run through Chinatown. If all the pushing and noise bothers you if you ever visit S. F. Stay off this bus. Last year I believe on Youtube, a black women insulted a Chinese women she was around 30 plus and fat. The black women got her ass Kung fu until she jumped off the bus.
Don't let the Thais off the hook, one might be sensitive in a temple but the Thais are no different than the Chinese? If there isn't a line like at a 7/11 they are just as pushy and cut in front of you like you didn't exist. Like I said its not rudeness it's embedded into their culture just like the way the Thais drive! If you confront a driver as to what they just did you would be in a fight right there and now because what they did is what they do all day long. It is the norm for you to tell them otherwise you are asking for a fight? To them it isn't rude!
When one travels they have to except their ways and culture at time whether you like it or not... America, Europe etc... no exception!
LBM
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1299306]One can still visit churches, temples, mosques as part of his personal culture enrichment, regardless of his own belief or the fact there is some pussy along.[/QUOTE]That's how I think too why let a belief get in the way of getting some pussy! As I said the atheist in the USA stands firm in their belief. Here you can't even do the Pledge, Can't put up a cross, Can't do this Can't do that nothing to do with the word God? Either you believe or you don't, I read enough the last few days that I can judge either you have a noodle for a spine or not. It seems odd that one would be so accomodating to every complain a Thai women makes regarding how the Chinese act in Thailand. Quoting the poster " I hate the fucking Chinese " I'm sure there is much more involved in his experience with the Chinese that a little pushing, staring, talking, and being loud in a temple. I'm not saying one bit he is racist it seems he is overcome with some deep bad experience in my opinion with the Chinese but I'm sure that isn't going to stop him from getitng some Chinese pussy?
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1299493]regarding how the Chinese act in Thailand. Quoting the poster " I hate the fucking Chinese " I'm sure there is much more involved in his experience with the Chinese that a little pushing, staring, talking, and being loud in a temple. I'm not saying one bit he is racist it seems he is overcome with some deep bad experience[/QUOTE]You forgot the spitting, the loogies. And the smoking. Same behavior they exhibit back in the PRC.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1299493]Quoting the poster " I hate the fucking Chinese " I'm sure there is much more involved in his experience with the Chinese that a little pushing, staring, talking, and being loud in a temple. I'm not saying one bit he is racist it seems he is overcome with some deep bad experience in my opinion with the Chinese but I'm sure that isn't going to stop him from getitng some Chinese pussy?
LBM[/QUOTE]Or at the very least, a Blow Job!
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1299300]Repeated question gets a repeated answer.
Don't bother staying there. Go to town. Nana is 30' (max 45' with traffic) cab drive away at a cost not over 300 baht.
Heaven will then open to you and you will not regret.
But first RTFF as it seems you didn't yet.[/QUOTE]And how do you do it?
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1299229]At what time will you arrive and how long will you be "stuck" at the airport? Will you be between international flights (which means you have to pass through immigration two times) or domestic flights? Have you been in Thailand before and know how to deal with taxis and such? Do you want a "massage" (regular with happy ending, oily or soapy) or porn-style threesome sex?[/QUOTE]Been here done that, just have not had to be at Suvarnabhumi for an extened time and looking for good advice to make it easier.
Porn-style twosome sex will do! I just have to meet a friend arriving on a morning flight and need to stay at an airport location for the night.
[QUOTE=Monte3; 1299351]I'm pretty much a new comer to this board, albeit a senior member on the brother site. If you happen to stuck over night or for a few hours there are two fishbowls off of King Kaeo road on the west side of the airport. One is called Miracles, not to be confused with hotel of the same name, the hotel about 2 KLM south on the same road.
Directly across the street from Miracles is a little place called Zone Karaoke Both have a decent selection of girls ranging in price from 1500 B to 2500 B. Don't be afraid to negotiate.
The
BTW King Kaeo is pronounced King COW
Be kind enough to post a report.[/QUOTE]King Kaeo64? King Kaeo45? How far from Thanon Lat Krabang road?
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1299489]Rudness is your definition but to the Chinese it is the norm! Not only in China but in Chinatown in San Francisco where I grew up! (snip)LBM[/QUOTE]I thought they moved Chinatown out to the Richmond, and the Avenues west of 19th?
I remember many good meals as a kid at the Universal Cafe. Driving home along Broadway past views of go-go dancers high above the street in glass boxes.
Later, in high school, we used to go to Sam Wo's to see Edsel's greasy bag of photos and eat bad noodles.
After, we'd stop in a Li Po for a shot of Unga Pei and a good buzz to face the biting chill of the late night wind and fog.
LBM, thanks for the memories.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1299493]I'm not saying one bit he is racist it seems he is overcome with some deep bad experience in my opinion with the Chinese but I'm sure that isn't going to stop him from getitng some Chinese pussy?
LBM[/QUOTE]Or at the very least, negotiating for a blow job!
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1299513]I thought they moved Chinatown out to the Richmond, and the Avenues west of 19th?
I remember many good meals as a kid at the Universal Cafe. Driving home along Broadway past views of go-go dancers high above the street in glass boxes.
Later, in high school, we used to go to Sam Wo's to see Edsel's greasy bag of photos and eat bad noodles.
After, we'd stop in a Li Po for a shot of Unga Pei and a good buzz to face the biting chill of the late night wind and fog.
LBM, thanks for the memories.[/QUOTE]Fon Tok,
Universal cafe is now closed due to many infraction by the health department. Sam Wo's has faced the same since it can't keep up with the codes in that building. The dumb waiter use to be kept grease by all the cooking oil in the place. Broadway street and the go go's are nearly all gone and thankfully so!
Chinatown is still there but there are so many of us through the years we have moved out to the Richmond and now the Sunset is the largest poplution of Asians in S. F. Taravel, Noriega, Judah. Just home three weeks ago I was eating at the USA Cafe and talking to a guy that has lived there for 10 years and growing up in the neighborhood told him all the places that are gone now.
LBM
[QUOTE=TConor; 1299500][b]What is RTFF? [/b]
And how do you do it?[/QUOTE][b]RTFF[/b] = [b]R[/b]ead [b]T[/b]he [b]F[/b]*cking [b]F[/b]orum. Advice to a newbie to do their own research before asking questions on topics which have been covered may times, or asking for information which is readily available in the age of the internet and google.
SunLover
[QUOTE=Golfinho;1299495]You forgot the spitting, the loogies. And the smoking. Same behavior they exhibit back in the PRC.[/QUOTE]I know exactly what you are talking about along with the smoking? Not just PRC. I was my bike the other day going at a leisure pace the Thai guy in front of me I noticed took his left hand place it on his nose blow out a wet noodle liter of loogies and was ready to throw it down. I swung to the right and past him before it smack me in the face!
LBM
[QUOTE=Harold444;1299455]If nic were a bargirl he would be the one on stage pruning and preening while looking in the mirror the whole time. Then at the end of the night, week, and year would wonder why he never gets barfined. Hahahaha! Too full of shit![/QUOTE]Haha. Very true!
[QUOTE=TConor;1299507]King Kaeo64? King Kaeo45? How far from Thanon Lat Krabang road?[/QUOTE]About 2 maybe 3 k south?
You're going to have to do a U turn, and Believe me you can't miss it. The place is lit up like a fucking show palace.
Going south they are going to be on your right side. So when you're on Thanon Lat Krabang and turn south go about 2 or 3 K south. You'll see Miracles first it is the most visible, then you'll see the other right across the soi from it on the same soi
When I'm out and about I never look at street markers, I'm from the south, we go by landmarks! BTW the little noodle shop at the front of the Soi sometimes has FL talent to be had, In fact I'd probably do the chick that runs it. She's seen her better days, however so have I.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1299313]Well, you seemed to have read between the lines, I said my system was different and that my system yielded higher conversion.
But sorry your whole life depends on that report, I'll post it whenever I feel like it and now, I don't have the motivation to do so [wink]
I have shared my system with a Senior member here, one that I meet and know and I reckon he has had good success with it already.
To each their own.
The thing I said about the other dude's system was that his contact / sex ratio could never be higher than mine as he depends on volume (contacting many girls on a daily basis) and I focus on a much lower number but only girls I am really interested in.
Also, as the other dude was recommending, arrange a meet with the girl in a coffee shop, look from afar and if the girl is not nice, just take off. I find this highly unethical and disrespectful. If you like it, your call.[/QUOTE]If either of you are not getting at least 3 or 4 phone numbers a day, with an overnight or at least an afternoon quicky, I'm afraid the book won't sell!
I can go to Siam food court and come away with a sure fire hit. Even my girlfriend was calling bullshit until I demonstrated.
My latest penchant is for those girls in their mid 50's to 60. A touch of grey and refinement. I never ask about the other guy, cause they all have one.
All I'm seeing here is a bunch of dudes posting how much of an expert they are, But no reports of a girl using too much hand when she was blowing you, that you met on BTS, or the temple.
Hey lads,
Great forum and lots going on in the BKK subsection. I am a newbie looking to get out to Thailand finally and I was under the impression that there used to be a sticky of sorts containing all kinds of relevant newbie infos, (the usual, such as gf hotels, areas to go and avoid, dos and donts as well as some indication on pricing).
I went through the 10 pages of posts in the BKK subsection (as this where I'll be heading) and picked up some valuable info. Can someone direct me to wherever the stickies have gone (it was Giotto's forum or some such thing). Again, apologies for asking, but as much as I like reading first hand accounts, it does not really help me with my research to hit the ground running.
Thanks, cheers.
BG
dear forum,
at the end of day 1 i ended@hillary's for playing some pool and having a drink.
the girls are kinda pushy by selling drinks but theres a good atmosphere and nice live music.
its nice to see young girls playing pool in high heels and short skirts.
on day 2 i entered hillary's in daytime and a nice young girl i saw the night before started to talk to me and we ended at playing pool.
she kinda made me hot and i took her with me for some afternoon fun.
at my hotel room in my bed she didn't want to smoke but after some persuasion she took it like a champ.
deep thrusts and good suck-action made me come really fast.
i somewhat over-payed (1500) but it didn't bother me.
it was a satisfying experience and she was gone after 90 minutes.
around 9 i entered '[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s' for a session with a girl i knew from 7 years ago when she just started to work over there.
her name is jinn.
the seven years experience you'll notice by her performance.
good suck-action, licking and deep-throating.
i came in her mouth with joy and fully satisfied.
recommended!
gr. rick666
[QUOTE=Monte3; 1299670]If either of you are not getting at least 3 or 4 phone numbers a day, with an overnight or at least an afternoon quicky, I'm afraid the book won't sell!
I can go to Siam food court and come away with a sure fire hit. Even my girlfriend was calling bullshit until I demonstrated.
My latest penchant is for those girls in their mid 50's to 60. A touch of grey and refinement. I never ask about the other guy, cause they all have one.
All I'm seeing here is a bunch of dudes posting how much of an expert they are, But no reports of a girl using too much hand when she was blowing you, that you met on BTS, or the temple.[/QUOTE]"Girls" in their mid 50's to 60 aren't girls; they're grandma's.
Most of us here are interested in the former.
[QUOTE=BastardGuy;1299719]I went through the 10 pages of posts in the BKK subsection (as this where I'll be heading) and picked up some valuable info. Can someone direct me to wherever the stickies have gone (it was Giotto's forum or some such thing). Again, apologies for asking, G[/QUOTE]Lots of banter here. No stickies. Closest is reports of distinction thread.
[QUOTE=Waylon;1298614]Something useful then. Ok I've been reading the posts for the past month or so and frankly I have found nothing new (with few exceptions) about where to get a good shag in Bangkok at a reasonable price. So I will share my recent experiences. Best root recently was with Focus in EZ Soi 26, young, killer bod and when you get her going both a fun and highly responsive experience. Now it takes because of her age. 18 patience but well worth the effort. Incidently while they will try do not pay full whack up front. Also recently had a great experience at Tarntip Soi 7/1, ostensibly a straight up massage shop that I happened upon where a young very cute lass called cannot remeber but sounded like Jim or Jam gave the most amazing erotic massage that I have had in LOS. Limited to a HJ but her guiding your hand exploring firstly her clothed body that after a little feigned reluctance becomes her naked body ends with a technically superior as they say in Thailand finish. 500 and she was more than happy.[/QUOTE]A feature of enjoying the p4p scene that gets overlooked is the real enjoyment that comes from getting to better know a girl. It is difficult on a short visit but if you have the time and you have had a great experience it is almost always more enjoyable second time around. The girl knows you, there is no apprehension on her part and both parties are more relaxed. I'm not talking a relationship here just the regular customer / provider situation. A case in point was my third visit to Tarntip where my young lady seemed (but as others have pointed out who knows for sure) happy to see me and looked after me very well indeed.
[QUOTE=BastardGuy;1299719]Can someone direct me to wherever the stickies have gone (it was Giotto's forum or some such thing). Again, apologies for asking, but as much as I like reading first hand accounts, it does not really help me with my research to hit the ground running.[/QUOTE]No stickies here and for a good reason: other than a few things which don't change ("hotels are girl-friendly" and "pussy is for sale") , things are apt to change without notice.
[QUOTE=TConor;1299507]King Kaeo64? King Kaeo45? How far from Thanon Lat Krabang road?[/QUOTE]It's King Kaeo 45
[QUOTE=Monte3;1299670]All I'm seeing here is a bunch of dudes posting how much of an expert they are, But no reports of a girl using too much hand when she was blowing you, that you met on BTS, or the temple.[/QUOTE]Not really on here, but I've read on other forums, guys will say how easy it is to pull regular Thai girls from places like Siam Square or mostly Thai nightclubs, they're either delusional or intentionally trying to lead guys astray by getting their hopes up only to find out what really goes on once they get here. With many Thai girls its pretty much impossible to pull for farangs. That's just the way it is. But the nice thing is there's a huge pool of talent out there, but for some reason I see quite often arund On Nut is many farangs are selling themselves short by going after complete Soi mutts LOL
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1299842]"Girls" in their mid 50's to 60 aren't girls; they're grandma's.
Most of us here are interested in the former.[/QUOTE]LOL.
In Asia any girl over 25 is pretty much a grandmother!
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1299359]If you have ATT from Us have it unlocked and buy a local SIM card. If you use ATT service be prepared to pay anywhere about$2-4 per minute incoming and outgoing. Local SIM lot cheaper and no charge for incoming.[/QUOTE]Have you or anyone else here unlocked an Iphone 4S for Thailand?
I am not sure what the unlocking implies. Does the unlocking affect my ability to upgrade to the next OS release? If I do make it to the next OS release, does this erase the previously hacked unlocking? That is, if I am over there and the next OS is released, do I start from scratch again and have to unlock again?
[QUOTE=Ehunter; 1299945]Have you or anyone else here unlocked an Iphone 4S for Thailand?
I am not sure what the unlocking implies. Does the unlocking affect my ability to upgrade to the next OS release? If I do make it to the next OS release, does this erase the previously hacked unlocking? That is, if I am over there and the next OS is released, do I start from scratch again and have to unlock again?[/QUOTE]I bought unlocked 4S from Apple Thailand web site last February, and I'm using it.
There is no problem ay any site.
[QUOTE=Ehunter; 1299945]Have you or anyone else here unlocked an Iphone 4S for Thailand?
I am not sure what the unlocking implies. Does the unlocking affect my ability to upgrade to the next OS release? If I do make it to the next OS release, does this erase the previously hacked unlocking? That is, if I am over there and the next OS is released, do I start from scratch again and have to unlock again?[/QUOTE]There is "Unlocking" and there is "Jailbraking" and one of the two does affect your ability to install further updates. Sorry, but I forget which is which but a Google search should quickly answer the question.
I had both done to a 1st generation AT&T iphone at MBK in Bangkok for B400 and it works very well. There certainly are shops in TUC COMM, Pattaya that can do the same.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1299937]Not really on here, but I've read on other forums, guys will say how easy it is to pull regular Thai girls from places like Siam Square or mostly Thai nightclubs, they're either delusional or intentionally trying to lead guys astray by getting their hopes up only to find out what really goes on once they get here. With many Thai girls its pretty much impossible to pull for farangs. That's just the way it is. But the nice thing is there's a huge pool of talent out there, but for some reason I see quite often arund On Nut is many farangs are selling themselves short by going after complete Soi mutts LOL[/QUOTE]Young guys in the 25-40 age range who know how to dress and handle themselves can do very well outside the P4P scene, especially in Bangkok's many upscale shopping malls. I'm in my 60's but I have a friend in his early 30's who I occasionally meet for lunch at Paragon.
He has a great job with a US company and is always well groomed. I'm always drop-jawed at both the quantity and the quality of the girls who blatantly hit on him, some handing him cards with their numbers. Funny thing is he is VERY married and never touches them; like having only a tossed salad at a steakhouse.
[QUOTE=Sunlover2; 1299624][b]RTFF[/b] = [b]R[/b]ead [b]T[/b]he [b]F[/b]*cking [b]F[/b]orum. Advice to a newbie to do their own research before asking questions on topics which have been covered may times, or asking for information which is readily available in the age of the internet and google.
SunLover[/QUOTE]Actually; isn't it "Read The Fu*+ing FAQ" rather than "Forum"? Reading all the forum's to find specific facts would take days while a "FAQ" is a distillation of all the most relevant information that has appeared on the forum.
[QUOTE=Mai Yao; 1299965]Young guys in the 25-40 age range who know how to dress and handle themselves can do very well outside the P4P scene, especially in Bangkok's many upscale shopping malls. I'm in my 60's but I have a friend in his early 30's who I occasionally meet for lunch at Paragon.
He has a great job with a US company and is always well groomed. I'm always drop-jawed at both the quantity and the quality of the girls who blatantly hit on him, some handing him cards with their numbers. Funny thing is he is VERY married and never touches them; like having only a tossed salad at a steakhouse.[/QUOTE]Describe the girls that hit on your friend.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1299489]Rudness is your definition but to the Chinese it is the norm!When one travels they have to except their ways and culture at time whether you like it or not. America, Europe etc. no exception!LBM[/QUOTE]It is indeed my opinion according to my standard. I am not here to educate a few billion of chiense, of course, but I feel free to remark the attitude. And, yes, I travel the world sufficiently to see and accept everyone's culture, habits. But, again, this doesn't stop my thinking. I still think they are rude (for me). It certainly is the norm, no doubt, otherwise one would not notice a guy occasionally spitting, a few people elbowing their way, or some people shouting around (this is more popular worldwide also in other nationalities, inclduing mine, but I do believe a less loud speaking is better). A few people do not break the news.
[QUOTE=TConor;1299500]And how do you do it?[/QUOTE]Well. The basics suggest you click on a hot link (*) at the left of your screen and reading Forum Abbreviations.
It will link you to [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/custompages.php?pageid=custompages_abbreviations[/url]
(*) if the expression "hot link" does not ring any bell, well. Do not ask in which Soi you can find it, please!
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1299989]It is indeed my opinion according to my standard. I am not here to educate a few billion of chiense, of course, but I feel free to remark the attitude. And, yes, I travel the world sufficiently to see and accept everyone's culture, habits. But, again, this doesn't stop my thinking. I still think they are rude (for me). It certainly is the norm, no doubt, otherwise one would not notice a guy occasionally spitting, a few people elbowing their way, or some people shouting around (this is more popular worldwide also in other nationalities, inclduing mine, but I do believe a less loud speaking is better). A few people do not break the news.[/QUOTE]That might be true. And certainly I'm not saying when traveling you have to except everything 100, I haven't been around the world like you but even in the United States which I have traveled in my life time been around enough to have been in situation in the south and with so call hillbillies and you talk about loud and splitting. Ever sit in a smokeout with a bunch of Bubba chewing tobacco, splitting out dark brown juice everwhere and dripping down their beard or mustache? Every race has their little thing including those who think their shit don't stink!
You can mispell and use bad grammer like myself but certainly you will get no respect and push around if you can't even spell Chinese correctly " chiense " and even if the Chinese are rude is that enough to make a person come to the conclusion they " Hate the Chinese "! Shit if that all it takes it's not wonder we are at each other throats?
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1300029]you will get no respect and push around if you can't even spell Chinese correctly " chiense "LBM[/QUOTE]I account those spelling mistakes as a typo. I would also refer to nationalities rather than races, not for the "Politically correct", but take a Chinese guy from Singapore or HK and he will not act as one from PRC etc.
Lots has to do with education and experience in socializing within different circle of peoples. Facts of life.
[QUOTE=Mai Yao; 1299965]Young guys in the 25-40 age range who know how to dress and handle themselves can do very well outside the P4P scene, especially in Bangkok's many upscale shopping malls. I'm in my 60's but I have a friend in his early 30's who I occasionally meet for lunch at Paragon.
He has a great job with a US company and is always well groomed. I'm always drop-jawed at both the quantity and the quality of the girls who blatantly hit on him, some handing him cards with their numbers. Funny thing is he is VERY married and never touches them; like having only a tossed salad at a steakhouse.[/QUOTE]That's the absolute truth. I don't always get a business card, however I do quite well. It's actually flattering. My dentist friend let me drill her!
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1300041]I account those spelling mistakes as a typo. I would also refer to nationalities rather than races, not for the "Politically correct", but take a Chinese guy from Singapore or HK and he will not act as one from PRC etc.
Lots has to do with education and experience in socializing within different circle of peoples. Facts of life.[/QUOTE]I was just pulling your leg about the spelling I had concluded it was a typo. I have been going to HK since the 70's and have venture into the border of China before it was opened. As with H. K I know they are one up or above the PRC, but I've seen plenty of pushing and split in the back alley's. When I'm there I don't do the tourist thing with family I go local and I've seen more than I care too, as for Singapore only been there once in the late 70's so no comment.
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;1300046]I was just pulling your leg about the spelling I had concluded it was a typo.LBM[/QUOTE]Ahah ah. I know I make these silly typo. I think I built up a typing dislexic problem in the last couple of years. .
Alzhaimer progressing? As long as I can succeed to keep IT hard. I am ok. Don't have to go through long love letters with the girls! LOL
[QUOTE=Mai Yao; 1299965]Young guys in the 25-40 age range who know how to dress and handle themselves can do very well outside the P4P scene, especially in Bangkok's many upscale shopping malls. I'm in my 60's but I have a friend in his early 30's who I occasionally meet for lunch at Paragon.
He has a great job with a US company and is always well groomed. I'm always drop-jawed at both the quantity and the quality of the girls who blatantly hit on him, some handing him cards with their numbers. Funny thing is he is VERY married and never touches them; like having only a tossed salad at a steakhouse.[/QUOTE]For a tourist almost all are P4P in the sense money changes hands. Ofcourse can meet some so called non-pros but ultimately there will be money transaction.
For a expat living there it is possible to get non-pros. However they need to be taken care of. If they have children more so.
I have met some who live there and have a live in GF. They support the girl and her family in spite of them having a job. Well earning thai girls will only look for rich guys to be with preferably with Thai men.
[QUOTE=Bowerboy;1299651]Haha. Very true![/QUOTE]I thought no one was stupid enough to reply to H444. I stand Corrected.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1300055]Ahah ah. I know I make these silly typo. I think I built up a typing dislexic problem in the last couple of years. .
Alzhaimer progressing? As long as I can succeed to keep IT hard. I am ok. Don't have to go through long love letters with the girls! LOL[/QUOTE]Well, looks like your one up on me?
LBM
[QUOTE=Ehunter; 1299945]Have you or anyone else here unlocked an Iphone 4S for Thailand?
I am not sure what the unlocking implies. Does the unlocking affect my ability to upgrade to the next OS release? If I do make it to the next OS release, does this erase the previously hacked unlocking? That is, if I am over there and the next OS is released, do I start from scratch again and have to unlock again?[/QUOTE]There is a software code in the phone which stops the user from changing wireless providers. It's like you going over to T-Mobile. If you are a long time customer of AT&T you can ask them to unlock it for you. If they balk remind them how you are a good customer and you would take your business elsewhere. The alternate is to have a independent cell phone shop do it for you. Ask the guys at the AT&T store and they usually know of some one. About $50-60.
Upgrading IOS should not be a problem, however as others have suggested do a Google search.
Last resort get a cheapie phone in Thailand.
[QUOTE=Mai Yao;1299967]Actually; isn't it "Read The Fu*+ing FAQ" rather than "Forum"? Reading all the forum's to find specific facts would take days while a "FAQ" is a distillation of all the most relevant information that has appeared on the forum.[/QUOTE]Please review the attached screen shot from the "Abbreviations" menu at the top of each page."FAQ" is really a guide to the features of the forum, while "Forum" consists of actual information submitted by the forum members. Sure, it may take some time to read the forum, but surely it will be time well spent; the more one knows about any new destination before arrival the better.
Dear readers,
After some searching on this forum I went to the biggest pharmacy between Soi4 and Bully's Pub.
1 strip Kamagra was 300 baht.
1 strip Apcalis was 400 baht.
1 strip Viagra was 1800 baht.
I didn't haggle or negotiated, the gentleman seemed professional and told this story a lot of times.
Haven't tried them yet but I think they are real.
Gr. Rick666
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1299937]Not really on here, but I've read on other forums, guys will say how easy it is to pull regular Thai girls from places like Siam Square or mostly Thai nightclubs, they're either delusional or intentionally trying to lead guys astray by getting their hopes up only to find out what really goes on once they get here. With many Thai girls its pretty much impossible to pull for farangs. That's just the way it is. But the nice thing is there's a huge pool of talent out there, but for some reason I see quite often arund On Nut is many farangs are selling themselves short by going after complete Soi mutts LOL[/QUOTE]My question to you is a simple one,
Have you come to any resolve, with your dilemma about fucking a lady boy. Does it make you gay?
I bet you're happy every time you get a girls pants off she doesn't have a dick, maybe, maybe not?
Just asking?
Out this morning for a few minutes, Spent last night drinking and having fun, Spied this little cutie.
Total damage 2000, plus room fees.
Total GFE half and half, finished me off with her mouth and hand.
The pics tell most of the story.
[QUOTE=Monte3; 1300318]Out this morning for a few minutes, Spent last night drinking and having fun, Spied this little cutie.
Total damage 2000, plus room fees.
Total GFE half and half, finished me off with her mouth and hand.
The pics tell most of the story.[/QUOTE]Vile. You sure she was born female? Gross.
I wouldn't touch that for minus 2000 baht.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1300067]I thought no one was stupid enough to reply to H444. I stand Corrected.[/QUOTE]
Where is your report about how to beat off to Camfrog that you promised us?
[QUOTE=Rick666; 1300264]Dear readers,
After some searching on this forum I went to the biggest pharmacy between Soi4 and Bully's Pub.
1 strip Kamagra was 300 baht.
1 strip Apcalis was 400 baht.
1 strip Viagra was 1800 baht.
I didn't haggle or negotiated, the gentleman seemed professional and told this story a lot of times.
Haven't tried them yet but I think they are real.
Gr. Rick666[/QUOTE]That's a Great post and a Great Start. Would be interesting to see now what each actually does (performance-wise)
[QUOTE=FlyJets;639697]I have tried many places to find an answer on the issue. just a simple finger point will surfice. Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]What exact info do you seek? Any specifics?
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/printthread.php?t=1034&pp=1000&page=2[/url]
Here you go: just hit CTRL+F and type "hua"
The search will return over 100 results!
[QUOTE=Harold444;1300137]I still don't understand what a good girl gets by hanging out with a sex tourist for a few days.[/QUOTE]If you were standing in line at the McDonalds and some hot chick on vacation starts to flirt with you would you push her away from a potential bedroom romp? Girls world-wide are really no different than guys along these lines. You have to stop thinking that girls only F-guys if there is monetary rewards involved. It could not be further from the truth.
Now to answer your question, those Thai girls will get the same thing hanging out with their own local guys as the tourist except they can bang the tourist and not have to see him maybe ever again. Isn't this what you are doing yourself in Thailand? Your just forcing the issue by waving some money around. The girls that might do the tourist thing may be bored and believe she will get some great dinners that her own local guys may not want to pay for, and a nice present or two and at the same time F-a-HOT guy. The tourist more likely will pay a fraction of what he normally would for a ho, and the girl goes along for a free ride and a fling. Girls are the same as guys in the sense that if the guy is hot they will consider f-ing them whether they are tourists or not. Again, girls are really no different than guys along these lines.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1300359]Vile. You sure she was born female? Gross.
I wouldn't touch that for minus 2000 baht.[/QUOTE]I didn't say that was what she asked for, I said thats what I paid. Look at the upside, if you will, With guys like me out doing girls you'd obviously not touch (by your own omission). You won't be worried with me cutting into your stock of high class pussy.
Where are some pictures of your latest?
[QUOTE=Mai Yao;1299967]Actually; isn't it "Read The Fu*+ing FAQ" rather than "Forum"? Reading all the forum's to find specific facts would take days while a "FAQ" is a distillation of all the most relevant information that has appeared on the forum.[/QUOTE]You nailed it, thanks for poining out what some have forgotten- " Reading all the forum's to find specific facts would take days "
[QUOTE=Monte3; 1300317]My question to you is a simple one,
Have you come to any resolve, with your dilemma about fucking a lady boy. Does it make you gay?
I bet you're happy every time you get a girls pants off she doesn't have a dick, maybe, maybe not?
Just asking?[/QUOTE]Not sure if serious sir? Hahahhaha. Its all good buddy.
Cheers
[QUOTE=Ehunter; 1300472]If you were standing in line at the McDonalds and some hot chick on vacation starts to flirt with you would you push her away from a potential bedroom romp? Girls world-wide are really no different than guys along these lines. You have to stop thinking that girls only F-guys if there is monetary rewards involved. It could not be further from the truth.
Now to answer your question, those Thai girls will get the same thing hanging out with their own local guys as the tourist except they can bang the tourist and not have to see him maybe ever again. Isn't this what you are doing yourself in Thailand? Your just forcing the issue by waving some money around. The girls that might do the tourist thing may be bored and believe she will get some great dinners that her own local guys may not want to pay for, and a nice present or two and at the same time F-a-HOT guy. The tourist more likely will pay a fraction of what he normally would for a ho, and the girl goes along for a free ride and a fling. Girls are the same as guys in the sense that if the guy is hot they will consider f-ing them whether they are tourists or not. Again, girls are really no different than guys along these lines.[/QUOTE]" hot chick on vacation " I presume translates into hot dude on vacation. I've lived in Thailand for the past 10 years and this description comes nowhere close to describing the vast majority of visitors at least those wandering around the Sukhumvit, Pattaya, Phuket locales. True this generation of women worldwide are more sexually liberated but there are cultural variations and it is wrong to assume that Thai women are as likely to want casual sex in the same way as for example their American counterparts. Just because the best performing P4P ladies will give you the impression that you are a great lover a "hansum" man and they have "finished" three times this doesn't translate into an educated lady in a McDonalds line is dying to have a romp with you even if by your own estimation you are HOT. Truth is while possible it is extremely unlikely.
[QUOTE=Waylon;1300562]True this generation of women worldwide are more sexually liberated but there are cultural variations and it is wrong to assume that Thai women are as likely to want casual sex in the same way as for example their American counterparts.[/QUOTE]I don't agree.
I contend Thai girls want it just as much as the girls of any other culture. But it is the Thai culture which looks over each and every girls shoulder that impedes them from "going for it".
Now, for the statistical cultural norm, your theory is most likely true. However there are individuals in every cultural that stray far from that norm and it is hard to argue the event is not likely to happen. I wager it does happen and the previous posts here only confirm it. I got no reason to call others that claim it can be done are fibbers.
[QUOTE=Ehunter; 1300623]I don't agree.
I contend Thai girls want it just as much as the girls of any other culture. But it is the Thai culture which looks over each and every girls shoulder that impedes them from "going for it".
Now, for the statistical cultural norm, your theory is most likely true. However there are individuals in every cultural that stray far from that norm and it is hard to argue the event is not likely to happen. I wager it does happen and the previous posts here only confirm it. I got no reason to call others that claim it can be done are fibbers.[/QUOTE]No doubt there are girls that stray from cultural norms. I would surmise that the liklihood of it happening correlates to the social standing of the girl which in turn guides her value system. The lower down the social pecking order the more likely it is that she will be tempted by the sweet talking farang. However (always acknowledging the exception to the rule) this will not be because she is dying for a shag but because she sees potential in either a short term monetary gain or the possibility of a longer term relationship which takes her out of her dead end future.
[QUOTE=Waylon;1300562]" hot chick on vacation " I presume translates into hot dude on vacation. I've lived in Thailand for the past 10 years and this description comes nowhere close to describing the vast majority of visitors at least those wandering around the Sukhumvit, Pattaya, Phuket locales. True this generation of women worldwide are more sexually liberated but there are cultural variations and it is wrong to assume that Thai women are as likely to want casual sex in the same way as for example their American counterparts. Just because the best performing P4P ladies will give you the impression that you are a great lover a "hansum" man and they have "finished" three times this doesn't translate into an educated lady in a McDonalds line is dying to have a romp with you even if by your own estimation you are HOT. Truth is while possible it is extremely unlikely.[/QUOTE]Just from my perspective (and most of my younger colleagues) , we meet random good looking Thai girls out and about all the time and without money exchanging hands. You could pick apart my statement by saying "maybe the girls are ugly" or " they are uneducated girls" or whatever but, the fact of the matter is young attractive women can and do have sex with young attractive men all over the world with no money involved. How discreet they are about it depends on the culture but, it happens. I have the same amount of casual, no strings (or money) attached sex here as I had back in the west. Maybe a little more here in Thailand actually.
For those that are better looking than the norm our arguments will be much easier to understand. I consider myself middle aged, have experienced the same as you, but just no validation within the Thai culture. I can't believe the Thai's treats this as such a taboo rarity, especially where there are guys such as yourself that pop up to share their experience.
[QUOTE=Ehunter;1300703]For those that are better looking than the norm our arguments will be much easier to understand. I consider myself middle aged, have experienced the same as you, but just no validation within the Thai culture. I can't believe the Thai's treats this as such a taboo rarity, especially where there are guys such as yourself that pop up to share their experience.[/QUOTE]I feel right or wrong sex for Thai ladies has a different significance that it does in the west.
If you are from a poor rural background having sex can start with losing your virginity at an early age for a price that is paid to the parents as compensation or you lose it to the local young stud that you think you are in love with. This ends up with the girl becoming pregnant and the young stud legging it either before or shortly after the baby is born. Sex then becomes a way to earn a livelihood to support herself and whoever is looking after the child. When I read posts where the writer is raving over the GFE he had and how excited the girl was with his performance I smile. I am not saying that the girl doesn't sometimes enjoy the experience but mostly any exuberant display of ecstasy is usually a well practiced part of the service and I doubt that many girls go to work thinking I feel horny today and cannot wait to get laid. What does the mamasam say when you ask for your favorite girl and she is unavailable, she says "she working" and that is what sex is for these girls.
So what about the girls that don't go into P4P end of things have a high school or perhaps a graduate degree but work in a relatively low paid job. It's obvious from the many dating sites that many of these girls are only too happy to meet a farang but always with the hope that it becomes a long term relationship thereby changing their circumstances. Having sex with the farangs they meet is part of the dating ritual and no doubt as with any sexual relationship it can be hugely enjoyable or downright disappointing but I still maintain that very few Thai women involve themselves with farangs especially short term tourists just for the sex and a night out on the town.
Then you have the successful career / business woman who is highly educated or possibly from a wealthy family. Unlike in times past nowadays possibly because of the influx of professional expats over the past 20 years dating a farang is no longer seen as a bad choice. However you will not casually bump onto these ladies at the food court and end up dating. Almost always introductions will be through mutual friends or they are work colleagues and sex will not happen until a serious relationship develops and at least the engagement is around the corner.
Any variations to any of the above are in my humble opinions exceptions to the norm but I guess if you are young good-looking generous with a sense of humor your chances will be a whole lot better than most of the troops that are out and about.
[QUOTE=Ixgzca;1300674]Just from my perspective (and most of my younger colleagues) , we meet random good looking Thai girls out and about all the time and without money exchanging hands. You could pick apart my statement by saying "maybe the girls are ugly" or " they are uneducated girls" or whatever but, the fact of the matter is young attractive women can and do have sex with young attractive men all over the world with no money involved. How discreet they are about it depends on the culture but, it happens. I have the same amount of casual, no strings (or money) attached sex here as I had back in the west. Maybe a little more here in Thailand actually.[/QUOTE]True, women all over the world fuck for free, and if you're young and got good genes then you have a shot at some hotties. Most of the guys you see in Thailand, however, who are picking up freebies aren't picking up the good ones. They are usually older ladies and / or average looking girls. The really good looking thai chicks are being approached by thai guys who now have money, and these girls would much rather go with a Thai. It is what it is!
[QUOTE=Harold444;1300611](snip)Although recently that sweet girl cashier at silom burger king made a nasty gesture-I think she wanted to give me a blow job. She made that sucking motion with her lipps and pointed in the direction of the straws. LOL. I'm 100% sure it wasnt about the straw.[/QUOTE]Maybe she was commenting on her estimated size of your dick, oh limp one?
Hahahaha. Just a joke (I think). Never take a sex forum too seriously!
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1300712]True, women all over the world fuck for free, and if you're young and got good genes then you have a shot at some hotties. Most of the guys you see in Thailand, however, who are picking up freebies aren't picking up the good ones. They are usually older ladies and / or average looking girls. The really good looking thai chicks are being approached by thai guys who now have money, and these girls would much rather go with a Thai. It is what it is![/QUOTE]That's because most of the guys are older. Their chances of picking up a young good looking Thai with no money involved are slim. But just because it's difficult for them, a lot of them say it's impossible for everyone. I've been tempted on more than a few occasions to take a few board members out to RCA one night just to show that getting a good looking Thai girl for free is not an urban myth...lol.
[QUOTE=Ixgzca;1300765]That's because most of the guys are older. Their chances of picking up a young good looking Thai with no money involved are slim. But just because it's difficult for them, a lot of them say it's impossible for everyone. I've been tempted on more than a few occasions to take a few board members out to RCA one night just to show that getting a good looking Thai girl for free is not an urban myth.lol.[/QUOTE]A very wise man once said: "You do not pay them to come with you. You pay them to leave you in the morning".
And that is the problem with "free" sex: it is rarely free, at least you will never know up-front whether or not she has any long-term plans with you. Such things only cause drama and stress. Perhaps the "older" generation among us have wizened up and have their bellies full of such antics and prefer the certainty of sex with no ties attached.
[QUOTE=TConor;1300537]You nailed it, thanks for poining out what some have forgotten- " Reading all the forum's to find specific facts would take days "[/QUOTE]Perhaps while reading the forum you will acquire some general information beyond what you are looking for. And maybe [i]just maybe [/i]you will learn some useful information on topics you didn't think to ask about.
But for those too impatient to absorb the valuable [i]intel [/i]available by actually [b]R[/b]eading [b]TFF[/b] I would suggest using google outside the website; I. E. Google the phrase 'international sex guide{topic}' for some quick and efficient search results.
SunLover
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1300763]Maybe she was commenting on her estimated size of your dick, oh limp one?
Hahahaha. Just a joke (I think). Never take a sex forum too seriously![/QUOTE]I think it's his choice of dining, Maybe if he upped his game a little and quit hanging out and Burger King and the "Golden Arches" he might actually have a chance of some puss.
However it does indeed seem he's afflicted with the small dick syndrome.
I find it a bit amusing this thread has gotten so much play.
[QUOTE=Monte3;1300875]I think it's his choice of dining, Maybe if he upped his game a little and quit hanging out and Burger King and the "Golden Arches" he might actually have a chance of some puss. However it does indeed seem he's afflicted with the small dick syndrome. I find it a bit amusing this thread has gotten so much play.[/QUOTE]Yeah, it's entertaining at times. Makes you wonder, though.
As far as life in Bangkok? There're not a lot of tourists here right now, mongers or otherwise. Just some folks from the hotter, desert regions and the southern hemisphere where it's the dead of winter.
Plenty of pretty ladies in Bangkok, though, if you know where to look for them!
If I were a young(er) man, tech savvy, and some money to burn, finding beautiful women in Bangkok and the rest of Thailand would be a no brainer. Just know, the best ladies are on the internet, not sitting at some beer bar or massage shop with a blank expression and som tam breath.
However, to make it work it is important to speak a little Thai and Lao / Isaan, have a clue or two about Thai culture, and to be very respectful to Thai people (knowing when and why).
Just showing up with an attitude and agenda will get you nowhere, quickly.
For not-so-young men, or those with limited "game," don't fret, there's legions of sexy, young women at the oiles, soapies, and go-go girl supermarkets awaiting your hungry stares and open wallets.
Just find a cheap hotel, some soap & shampoo, RTFF, buy a BTS Rabbit Pass, and rest assured, you'll be more than happy!
;)
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1300777]A very wise man once said: "You do not pay them to come with you. You pay them to leave you in the morning".
And that is the problem with "free" sex: it is rarely free, at least you will never know up-front whether or not she has any long-term plans with you. Such things only cause drama and stress. Perhaps the "older" generation among us have wizened up and have their bellies full of such antics and prefer the certainty of sex with no ties attached.[/QUOTE]Wolv,
I am with you on this one. Who wants free sex? Not me. There is always something attached. There is always a cost and as we get older our egos matter not to us, we just want to have fun, and fun we have. Even in a relationship sex is not free, well unless you are a kept boy toy.
[QUOTE=Ixgzca;1300765]I've been tempted on more than a few occasions to take a few board members out to RCA one night just to show that getting a good looking Thai girl for free is not an urban myth.lol.[/QUOTE]Yah, it's not a myth at all, and of course it's easier when you're younger. You have more energy and younger girls like younger guys.
Share with us the quality of the girls you meet in RCA. How old are they? Have they fucked farang before? Can you take them straight from the disco to a room and fuck them, or do you need to date them?
[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1300895]Just know, the best ladies are on the internet, not sitting at some beer bar or massage shop with a blank expression and som tam breath.[/QUOTE]I don't agree that the "best" ladies are on the internet.
The "best" IMO don't need to go online to meet a guy. They have many offers in everyday life already.
[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1300939]I don't agree that the "best" ladies are on the internet.
The "best" IMO don't need to go online to meet a guy. They have many offers in everyday life already.[/QUOTE]I think, actually I am sure, we have different ideas about what characteristics qualify a Thai woman as the "best."
Yet, that's the beauty of it all, there's many choices for those who know how to make it work.
Chok dee!
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1300953]I think, actually I am sure, we have different ideas about what characteristics qualify a Thai woman as the "best."
Yet, that's the beauty of it all, there's many choices for those who know how to make it work.
Chok dee![/QUOTE]I actually agree with you on this one. I have found also that for me the best thai Ladies I have found Online
[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1300937]Yah, it's not a myth at all, and of course it's easier when you're younger. You have more energy and younger girls like younger guys.
Share with us the quality of the girls you meet in RCA. How old are they? Have they fucked farang before? Can you take them straight from the disco to a room and fuck them, or do you need to date them?[/QUOTE]This year they've been aged 18-32. Total of about 12 girls. Only one mentioned to me that she had a faring boyfriend before but, who really cares? I'm conversational in Thai so I don't evaluate their level of English. I've taken several straight from RCA or wherever back to my house. I had lasting contact with three of them. I can count on one hand the times I bought them anything more than some fruit on the street. The most current one is 23, college educated, white skin (for those of you who think that matters) and a decent screw but, she is not a panacea for all my sexual needs. I'm not saying that freebies are the best option but, simply that it is an option for young expats.
Brothers. First time in Bangkok and very excited. Heard s lot about soapy and wanted to sample the pleasures. I know there are a lot of threads here but can someone help me choose a place to go late evening for a good soapy and a spot of massage. FS not necessary. Willing to spend for the right gal and ambience!
[QUOTE=Ixgzca;1301011]This year they've been aged 18-32. Total of about 12 girls.[/QUOTE]Don't the girls have to be over 20yo to be in the clubs?
[QUOTE=Waylon;1300669]I would surmise that the liklihood of it happening correlates to the social standing of the girl which in turn guides her value system. The lower down the social pecking order the more likely it is that she will be tempted by the sweet talking farang.[/QUOTE]No. I don't think that is it either.
Look at the kinds of girls getting into the porn industry and consider the social taboo surrounding it here in the west. This is not biased to any kind of western social class and I think your Thail-farang beliefs fall in the same vein. If they I'd not, I could argue that a persons high social economic class restricts them from being adventurous which most will believe is somewhat silly. That adventurousness will always be there.
All girls have some level of adventurousness and the level defines whether she may bang a tourist for her own fulfillment.
Female adventurousness is independent of a girls social economic class.
Was getting horny at office looking at all the protruding butts out of their tight skirts, so I understood that it was time for a quickie. My junior was straining the pants' zipper, by the time I was in the lift. Took a motorcycle to reach patpong soi 2, and went straight to SOL. Damn 2 of my fav girls were there and my junior said to me,"why not take both", and so it was.
The one with the fatter ass got down on her knees, and was sucking on my thankful junior, while I was sucking on the tits of my other favorite who was on sofa with me, and kneeling over to feed her Milk to me. After 5 mins or so, I had the mouths changed, but instructed them both to get buck naked and I had 2 delicious asses and boobs and their lovely mouths all over my dick in turns. Next I had the both seated on the sofa and took turns stuffing their mouths while standing. While all this was on, my dick was straining to fuck a pussy, so I asked who was willing, and immediately the one with the fatter ass said yes. Which I anyway wanted. So I had her positioned on the sofa, in doggy style with her ass pointed at me, invitingly, I must have pounded her a good 10 mins, all the while playing with the other girl. In between I heard 2 girls pass by giving out giggles and broad style. One even came over and patted my butt and asked if I wanted a 3rd one. I would have taken her if she had done it at the beginning, any politely denied and it was done all the while I was pounding the fat assed girl. Seriously this can happen only in SOL.
It was huge fun for 30 mins or so, and my junior was hugely thankful.
Total damage 1600, with 1000 for the fuck and 600 for the BJ only girl. I am a regular, so I get a "legular price" hahaha. God bless the girls of SOL. I am grinning ear to ear as I am reminded of the sweet afternoon I had today, with 2 of my favs in SOL.
Went there with 2 friends last time I was in town. Funny thing is, we walked in and all of the gals walked out and sat outside. We were not rowdy or disrespectful, can't figure it out.
Will be back in town in a few days and would like to try it again, can anyone give me good directions, seems a little difficult to find.
[QUOTE=AssLover945; 1301053]Was getting horny at office looking at all the protruding butts out of their tight skirts, so I understood that it was time for a quickie. My junior was straining the pants' zipper, by the time I was in the lift. Took a motorcycle to reach patpong soi 2, and went straight to SOL. Damn 2 of my fav girls were there and my junior said to me,"why not take both", and so it was.
Hello brothers,
Reaching Bangkok in a few days for my first visit and excited to be in the land of smiles! Looking lot forward to a soapy massage which I am very keen to experience. Can anyone recommend a good place to visit late evening for a good soapy and a spot of massage. FS not necessary. There is a lot of advice on the threads but as a newbie I found it difficult to get a comparison / recommendation report.
Also, is it better to go to the likes of Annie's / CJ1 / Mango or is an outcall recommended?
Thank you very much
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1300994]I'm going to fill my RABBIT card with the max. Only place sex is FREE is on the BTS (only if you got game though). And I do mean on the BTS. LolZ.
(snip) [/QUOTE]Geez! Damn you H4444!
Now, I am going to have to look twice where I put my hands, or sit, when I take the BTS Skytrain. Might have to start taking taxis again.
Free? Thailand? C'mon.
The only thing free in life is momma's milk (except in TH).
And, from the sound of it, I bet your momma gave you a bill once you could walk, huh? ;)
[QUOTE=HomoErectus12; 1301098]Hello brothers,
Reaching Bangkok in a few days for my first visit and excited to be in the land of smiles! Looking lot forward to a soapy massage which I am very keen to experience. Can anyone recommend a good place to visit late evening for a good soapy and a spot of massage. FS not necessary. There is a lot of advice on the threads but as a newbie I found it difficult to get a comparison / recommendation report.
Also, is it better to go to the likes of Annie's / CJ1 / Mango or is an outcall recommended?
Thank you very much[/QUOTE] Go, plunge in and report back as YMMV
[QUOTE=HomoErectus12; 1301098]Hello brothers,
Also, is it better to go to the likes of Annie's / CJ1 / Mango or is an outcall recommended?
Thank you very much[/QUOTE]I wouldn't do outcall if you haven't seen any of the girls in person. Those pics are all heavily photoshopped and who knows who will show up at your door!
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1300777]A very wise man once said: "You do not pay them to come with you. You pay them to leave you in the morning".
And that is the problem with "free" sex: it is rarely free, at least you will never know up-front whether or not she has any long-term plans with you. Such things only cause drama and stress. Perhaps the "older" generation among us have wizened up and have their bellies full of such antics and prefer the certainty of sex with no ties attached.[/QUOTE]I find this the most true in Bangkok during my many visits. I got bored of the go-go and beer bar scene and between trips (about every 6 weeks) started working the Internet circuit and as has been reported, it's pretty easy. I met a several girls, and every one turned out to be with "strings attached". It was fun setting things up, flirting before I departed, stuff like that. But after one "date", I was ready to move on. With a ST / LT bar girl, no worries. They don't expect a call back, even if you tell them you will.
But with the non-pros / semi-pros, they do. And I got the calls, emails and texts expecting me to be their committed BF. That wasn't for me. So my connections in both Thailand and Manila have all ended badly. Maybe it's my personality that I allow myself to feel bad about "dumping" them. I feel bad when I get the emails and texts wondering why I won't go out with them every night. I end up making lame excuses about "work commitments" when really I just want a new and different girl.
So for me, I've given up on working the Internet sites for hook ups. Wolvenvacht's quote hits the nail on the head for me. If I lived there, it might be different. But when I am there for 10-20 days, I want to be Mr. Butterfly. And for me, the pre-arranged Internet hook ups doesn't lend it self to that.
[QUOTE=Pablo;1301304]Maybe it's my personality that I allow myself to feel bad about "dumping" them. I feel bad when I get the emails and texts wondering why I won't go out with them every night.[/QUOTE]No; it sounds like your personality is just fine and normal.
Only the scoundrels and sociopaths lie to girls routinely and then dump them without feeling guilty.
[QUOTE=Daddy07; 1301322]No; it sounds like your personality is just fine and normal.
Only the scoundrels and sociopaths lie to girls routinely and then dump them without feeling guilty.[/QUOTE]Playing devil's advocate here. If a playa is going to play and chase tail on the side, does it really matter if he feels guilty on the inside?
[QUOTE=Pablo;1301304]So for me, I've given up on working the Internet sites for hook ups. Wolvenvacht's quote hits the nail on the head for me. If I lived there, it might be different. But when I am there for 10-20 days, I want to be Mr. Butterfly. And for me, the pre-arranged Internet hook ups doesn't lend it self to that.[/QUOTE]98% of internet dating girls are looking for a boyfriend at the least, and usually a husband shortly after.
No point in messing with that if you're here on a short trip.
If you want to have fun then just pay the extra money to have fun. Easier and more honest and nobody's feelings get hurt.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1301330]Playing devil's advocate here. If a playa is going to play and chase tail on the side, does it really matter if he feels guilty on the inside?[/QUOTE]Not at all if he's a lying scoundrel or sociopath. :)
Decent fellows like Pablo feel bad about lying to girls to get into their pants and then dumping them. When I was on the dating sites I always explained to the girl upfront that I wasn't looking for a wife or girl friend but only for fun. Lots of them were turned off but a good number didn't mind, but one still pays a price for the non-pro's, even if you are honest.
Its high time I reported on the excellent strip of massage shops in Sukhumvit Soi 23. In my opinion this is as close to the Bangkok of old as you can get in Bangkok at the moment.
As you leave Soi Cowboy and go out onto Soi 23 you would then turn left and start walking up the street (away from Sukhumvit Road. I am NOT talking here about the massage places right next to Cowboy. You need to keep walking up the street maybe another 400 meters and you will see them on the right hand side of the road (opposite Citadines Hotel and Milllenium Hotel).
There are some very decent looking girls there and all of them are fun, boisterous and give great service. I don't know for sure but I would bet 90% give full service in the room probably for 1, 800 all in including a decent massage beforehand. I walk past there every day and really it is a great little scene and starts from around 3pm onwards and is in full swing by 8pm.
Basically that little strip of 7 or 8 massage shops is like a little mini Soi 6 in Pattaya but with less "worn" girls. Anyway having tried pretty much every option in Bangkok (actually Thailand really) I would thoroughly recommend this stretch to anyone.
Many people don't know its even there. After 7 years of living in Bangkok I only discovered it after I moved to the Soi 23 area and never knew it existed before.
Happy Hunting
There are some very decent looking girls there and all of them are fun, boisterous and give great service. I don't know for sure but I would bet 90% give full service in the room probably for 1,800 all in including a decent massage beforehand.
[quote]Am I missing something. Firstly all of them give great service which sounds like I've been there done that and then you get "I would bet" or "probably". I know the strip of shops referred to and the constant chants of "massssssssage sir " as you pass by each shop can be very irritating if you are having a bad day. Also have to say the talent on display falls somewaht short of what is available at the better oilies.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bowerboy; 1301338]Its high time I reported on the excellent strip of massage shops in Sukhumvit Soi 23. As you leave Soi Cowboy and go out onto Soi 23 . Keep walking up the street maybe another 400 meters and you will see them on the right hand side of the road (opposite Citadines Hotel and Milllenium Hotel).[/QUOTE]I walk past these places all the time too when I am in BKK and staying at the Millennium or the Admiral Premiere. The girls always call out as I pass and I wave back and say hello. I have often thought about giving them a try, but I just never got around to doing it. The math is simple: the upside is the possibility of a happy ending of some kind that was not totally expected (thrill of the hunt) minus the downside of a veggie massage for a few hundred BT and an hour killed. In LOS where sex is always available any time you want it, it sometimes is an added bonus to get a BJ or sex when it is not 100% guaranteed. Based on your report, I am going to definitely give one of these places a try. Great report BB.
I've seen that strip last year when I stayed at the Grand Millenium. I never tried but it's true that the girls were fun to interact with on the outside.
Mini report.
Tilac: Visited here a couple times recently and found it pretty bad. It has a reputation as one of the best, but the girls I saw were pretty rough looking. Several of them looked over 40 and leathery. Even the younger girls were average looking and had big chubby legs. I saw one girl I think might have been attractive from the side, but I didn't get a good look at her. Not the friendliest place either. Definitely possible to sit there for an hour without any girls talking to you or making much eye contact.
Suzie Wongs: Average lineup. A few decent girls. Too many chubby girls. A few with some big tits. Staff is friendly. Not a bad place to spend a couple minutes.
Waylon if you find a group of fun attractive and boisterous Thai girls asking you to service them "very irritating" then it may be time to go home. If you find that irritating then there is not much point being here :)
I walk past them every day and they always make me smile.
I can attest to Bowerboy's claims that Soi 23 is good value. Almost all of the massage places on Soi 23 offer FS or at least mouth party, even the lone disappointment wasn't too bad. On one occasion I got LT for 1K +500 BF and it was great... shot 2 times along with BBFS. yes, i know not very smart.. but sometimes the temptation is too great to pass up.. oh well
As far as free sex goes, you have to put up with not being able to monger or see other girls as much. It's a big time commitment and many lost opportunities. Of course, its somewhat offset by being someone who is good people, enjoy going out to eat with, cinema, and etc. But still some guys are playas for life and need to have a steady diet of strange.
And then I have to put up with this, after forgetting to bring my mobile with me to the gym, I get home and get this on my whatsapp:
Where are you?
Hey.
Honey.
You are not honest.
You make mistake again.
Who is stay with you?
I hate liar.
You lie all the time.
A few minutes later, she's knocking on the door to see if I have another girl staying at my place LOL
Next week I'll be sneaking off to Pattaya for the first time. Hopefully I'll see some hot girls there hehe.
Tony's got it right, I've received all those sorts of texts and e-mails. And that's even though I was always honest with these girls and told them up front there was zero possibility of a LTR, never mind marriage. If (and when) they asked, I even was honest about being attached back home. Several of the girls were really sweet and fun to hang out with, but inevitably I'd get bored, usually after the 2nd or 3rd "date". Once they gave it up (usually on the first date) , there was no more thrill of the chase. I know some guys come to Thailand, meet a girl on night #1 and stay with her the whole week or two. I have never done that, at most I repeat once more with the really good ones. And even some of the gorgeous ones who were 10/10 in bed, I don't call them back because I'm always interested in something new. So it's pretty clear why these pre-arranged dates aren't for me. I guess there are some real pros online, but it seems to me that almost all are girls looking for a BF at least, if not a LTR and husband.
I finally quit doing this earlier this year after I met a totally non-pro girl online from Pattaya. She had a normal job and was cute in her pics and fun, witty and intelligent when we chatted online and exchanged e-mails. I was staying in Pattaya for work, so after work I met her for drinks. She was plumper than I imagined, and just wasn't sexy to me. Plus, since my arrival everywhere I looked were these smoking hot girls all available for a bar fine and small fee. After drinks I told her I had to go out with business associates and that was it. I hit a bar, got a much hotter girl. I sent her an e-mail a couple of days later just saying I was too busy and couldn't see her, she got the hint and stopped e-mailing me back. After that, I decided that I was done with that game.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1301331]98% of internet dating girls are looking for a boyfriend at the least, and usually a husband shortly after.
No point in messing with that if you're here on a short trip.
If you want to have fun then just pay the extra money to have fun. Easier and more honest and nobody's feelings get hurt.[/QUOTE]I have not found that. Many are P4P.
But if not, it is easy to scam them if you want. They will usually fuck at the end of the day if you take them to dinner and they think you are serious for relationship.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1301504]I have not found that. Many are P4P.
But if not, it is easy to scam them if you want. They will usually fuck at the end of the day if you take them to dinner and they think you are serious for relationship.[/QUOTE]Why waste most the day with girls like this especially when it is not positive they will put out AND their body might not be as advertised.
You fly thousands of miles with a limited number of days and risking your precious time like this would not cut it with me. The same game exists at home. So why leave home if it works there and what is the point taking it take it to Thailand? Please explain.
[QUOTE=Ehunter; 1301559]Why waste most the day with girls like this especially when it is not positive they will put out AND their body might not be as advertised.
You fly thousands of miles with a limited number of days and risking your precious time like this would not cut it with me. The same game exists at home. So why leave home if it works there and what is the point taking it take it to Thailand? Please explain.[/QUOTE]Ehunter, I guess it is an ego thing for some guys. They need to feel like they "got game." I for one just don't get that. You come over here so you don't have to date and romance. That is the point.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1301581]Ehunter, I guess it is an ego thing for some guys. They need to feel like they "got game." I for one just don't get that. You come over here so you don't have to date and romance. That is the point.[/QUOTE]The sanest post to date on this subject so far.
We're here for a reason and it isn't romance.
If I was into internet dating with non-p4p Thai chicks then I doubt a sex forum would be the place for advice.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1301439]IBut still some guys are playas for life and need to have a steady diet of strange.[/QUOTE]That's a good way to put it ;)
[QUOTE=Pointy Stick;1301603]We're here for a reason and it isn't romance.[/QUOTE]This should be the new ISG slogan.
[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1301610]T"We're here for a reason and it isn't romance."
This should be the new ISG slogan.[/QUOTE]Better one.
"The forum for men who have to pay for it!"
[QUOTE=Pointy Stick; 1301603]The sanest post to date on this subject so far.
We're here for a reason and it isn't romance.
If I was into internet dating with non-p4p Thai chicks then I doubt a sex forum would be the place for advice.[/QUOTE]Well. You certainly could do worse, one could delude himself by venturing over to the Pickup artist websites and see what those clowns have to say.
Obviously Bowerboy is easily amused (no harm in that) and his only reason for remaining in Thailand seems to be so he can service Thai girls. Not to realize the spiritual enjoyment of living in a Buddhist country with the rich history that Thailand offers, the warmth of it's people, it's superior health care system, amazing affordable restaurants, being able to enjoy both spectacular mountain scenery and some of the best beaches in the world is a sad reflection. Incidentally I thoroughly enjoy the company of Thai ladies and frequent a number of well known establishments however none are located in Soi 23. Anybody who knows the scene will attest to the fact that with the odd exception the cream of the talent is found elsewhere but if your ego is tickled by girls mechanically shouting "massage sir" as you pass by then by all means go for it.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1301615]Better one.
"The forum for men who have to pay for it!"[/QUOTE]Better still:
"The forum for men who'd rather pay for it and throw them back."
[QUOTE=Ehunter; 1301559]Why waste most the day with girls like this especially when it is not positive they will put out AND their body might not be as advertised.
You fly thousands of miles with a limited number of days and risking your precious time like this would not cut it with me. The same game exists at home. So why leave home if it works there and what is the point taking it take it to Thailand? Please explain.[/QUOTE]It is just another option. Open your mind.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1301685]It is just another option. Open your mind.[/QUOTE]Well so is jacking off on your couch... Ya idiot.
There has been times when my ego was ticked by "massage sir". Very rare but not a complete no. If you saw the hefers where I live you would go for any means possible to have some fun.
Before spending an extended time in BKK, I had lined up some sweeties on TLL. I would not do that again, sure it was easy enough to establish contacts who would send me SMS from Thailand and Skype. But after the first night in BKK, I realized that there were way too many options and way easier. The cutest TLL girl was 19 and I would have given here a solid 7. 5 from her pics. We arranged to meet based on her schedule. She is a good girl who sister got her a good job in a factory. That meant that her work schedule was 12 hours a day; 6 days a week. Her "holiday" was like our weekend and it was only 1 day a week. That was the day she had to do laundry etc. Oh yeah, she spent 1 hour each way taking the bus to her work. All that for 9000bt a month. Tough life.
I met her at a mall called Future Park. What I thought was a simple cab ride from where I was working in BKK. WTF, it was close to 400 bt on the meter. Honestly, my jaw dropped when I met her, she was way prettier in person and super sweet. Our date at the mall was a meal of her choice (again, WTF, she picked KFC?) and a trip to the Big C grocery where I bought her some basic toiletries she asked help buying.
The night end with a little kiss. Took a taxi to her sister's house and invited me in. Ok, her sister was like 30 years old. 2 kids and husband. Worked at the same factory. Very nice people but kinda saw through me and kinda hinted that the factory job was hard to find and pleaded/hinted not to miss lead her sister. I left depressed and saddened. I wanted to tap my TLL friend but knew my intentions were short term. I think there was pull towards me a the rich farrange but her sister pulling her the other direction (with good reason).
Back to BKK I went and continued to pull as I pleased from Nana and SC until I found a LBFM from Pattaya who came to BKK and stayed with me. I still get updates from my TLL girl who now works at a bank. Now looking like a solid 9 as she invests more in her wardrobe and hair etc.
It is true one fills some odd hours at home looking at webcams and girls dating through Internet.
As an anticipation of his next trip one can be tempted to (b)hook so to have here welcoming him at airport and end to bed (dreams are free). But if one puts some rational, there is no need of such blind dates (they are, whatever you tell me!). Visited countries offer such a variety of (p4p) girls that it is much better to scout in real and take it from there. Freebies aren't such. And better pay for somebody's tie and be able to graciously tell to move away is things don't click. Meals and drinks will cost the same, be her a freebie or a p4p. The freebie will expect some gift, the P4p not, so costs are pretty much the same, at the end. The P4P will not have family quickly attached.
Good on you for not misleading that good girl, Orange Crust. I bet many here wouldn't have been so nice.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1301504].
But if not, it is easy to scam them if you want. They will usually fuck at the end of the day if you take them to dinner and they think you are serious for relationship.[/QUOTE]Wow, what a gentlemanly behavior. Is it worth it to give false hope to desperate women. It's not that you saved any big money, is it.
[QUOTE=Orange Crust; 1301760]Before spending an extended time in BKK, I had lined up some sweeties on TLL. I would not do that again, sure it was easy enough to establish contacts who would send me SMS from Thailand and Skype. But after the first night in BKK, I realized that there were way too many options and way easier. The cutest TLL girl was 19 and I would have given here a solid 7. 5 from her pics. We arranged to meet based on her schedule. She is a good girl who sister got her a good job in a factory. That meant that her work schedule was 12 hours a day; 6 days a week. Her "holiday" was like our weekend and it was only 1 day a week. That was the day she had to do laundry etc. Oh yeah, she spent 1 hour each way taking the bus to her work. All that for 9000bt a month. Tough life.
I met her at a mall called Future Park. What I thought was a simple cab ride from where I was working in BKK. WTF, it was close to 400 bt on the meter. Honestly, my jaw dropped when I met her, she was way prettier in person and super sweet. Our date at the mall was a meal of her choice (again, WTF, she picked KFC?) and a trip to the Big C grocery where I bought her some basic toiletries she asked help buying.
The night end with a little kiss. Took a taxi to her sister's house and invited me in. Ok, her sister was like 30 years old. 2 kids and husband. Worked at the same factory. Very nice people but kinda saw through me and kinda hinted that the factory job was hard to find and pleaded / hinted not to miss lead her sister. I left depressed and saddened. I wanted to tap my TLL friend but knew my intentions were short term. I think there was pull towards me a the rich farrange but her sister pulling her the other direction (with good reason).
Back to BKK I went and continued to pull as I pleased from Nana and SC until I found a LBFM from Pattaya who came to BKK and stayed with me. I still get updates from my TLL girl who now works at a bank. Now looking like a solid 9 as she invests more in her wardrobe and hair etc.[/QUOTE]Good on you. Think about it, even if she is a "good girl," whatever one thinks that may be, she is still in a relatively dead end job certainly not getting rich. If she is good looking and is on TLL, chances are that she is meeting / chatting with hundreds if not thousands of guys over time. If she isn't a gold digger or working in Sukhumvit, then she may just be a nice girl looking for a better lot in life. But if she meets farang who basically want to get in her pants with no commitment other than a night of fun, then she is going to become jaded damn fast, not to mention having a pretty dismal picture of guys from overseas. Yeah, unless you are looking for a GF and all the commitments and expectations that this tends to bring in Thailand (or elsewhere) , you are far better off paying a bit of cash and just having endless fun with no headache, grief, or baggage, not to mention that at the end of the day, you will most likely be better off financially as well.
[QUOTE=Oldian;1301803]Good on you. Think about it, even if she is a "good girl," whatever one thinks that may be, she is still in a relatively dead end job certainly not getting rich. If she is good looking and is on TLL, chances are that she is meeting / chatting with hundreds if not thousands of guys over time. If she isn't a gold digger or working in Sukhumvit, then she may just be a nice girl looking for a better lot in life. But if she meets farang who basically want to get in her pants with no commitment other than a night of fun, then she is going to become jaded damn fast, not to mention having a pretty dismal picture of guys from overseas. Yeah, unless you are looking for a GF and all the commitments and expectations that this tends to bring in Thailand (or elsewhere) , you are far better off paying a bit of cash and just having endless fun with no headache, grief, or baggage, not to mention that at the end of the day, you will most likely be better off financially as well.[/QUOTE]She is a Facebook friend of mine now, it's kinda interesting to see the way her life is progressing now with the banking job. Also it's interesting that she has about 200 Facebook friends and only two that are foreign with me being one of them. Man she's so sweet now but really what's the point. Even if I tried, I'm pretty sure my bedroom preferences would have scared her off anyways. That's what really nice about a pro. You pretty much live out your fantasies.
My reports are now a bit dated but I tend to see a girl for at least several dates. Bargaining multiple times. Hell, my stories are quite different, maybe because I'm generous and laid back. When I have time, I will write about my Lollipop girl who I saw for 2 weeks. I got quite an inside glimpse of the gogo world and the plays. I also got a Baccarra girl who I saw for an extended period (stopped fucking after 10 days but became friends). She actually had me in the bar when the main dude was giving out the monthly pay. Wow, what an eye opener and I have to tell you these girls respect management. And they are treated well.
Again, things that I have witnessed that no other tourist could see. A fly on the wall who was fascinated by the ritual.
Peace all.
[QUOTE=Orange Crust;1301842]I got quite an inside glimpse of the gogo world and the plays[/QUOTE]I look forward to reading more about it, that's always fun.
after trawling through the forum and enjoying the chat on internet dating, picking up non p4p's and other interesting tit bits as a newcomer to the forum i was looking for some solid information on where to go. i was after something a little different from the mango, tulip, snow white 'axis of evil' so i decided to visit tarntip on soi 7 as the post looked promising. two girls sitting outside glued to their mobiles as i asked about a jim or a jam (names provided) working there. blank stares! well anybody with a name that sounds like jim or jam. more blanks, possibly lost in translation, so again jimmmmm jammmmm finally one said * (sorry no name disclosure but shouldn't be hard to figure) i said maybe and * comes out from the shop looking decidedly puzzled. not knowing if it was the girl referred to in the post but being young and cute with a delicious body i booked a 2 hour oil massage in a private room (700 baht). not overly chatty, her massage skills were really good, strong and energetic. later towards the end of the session as she began to massage my arm she gently rested my palm on her thigh moving it up and down in a sensually caressing fashion until it was firmly lodged against her crotch where she left me to my own devices. they say the most important sex organ in the body is the brain and my imagination ran amok as i caressed her fanny. we made eye contact and it was like she wasn't aware of what was going on but of course she was. although looking as innocent and as charming as a cherubic schoolgirl out of the convent this was obviously something she had learned on how to get things moving along in the right direction. the towel which had been covering the essentials was now in the shape of an indian tepee and not being able to stand it (no pun intended) any longer i took her hand, the rest i leave to your imagination but it was memorable. this girl is wasted at this low end shop. thanks to whoever made the original post.
[QUOTE=Orange Crust; 1301760]I met her at a mall called Future Park. What I thought was a simple cab ride from where I was working in BKK. WTF, it was close to 400 bt on the meter. Honestly, my jaw dropped when I met her, she was way prettier in person and super sweet. Our date at the mall was a meal of her choice (again, WTF, she picked KFC?) and a trip to the Big C grocery where I bought her some basic toiletries she asked help buying.
The night end with a little kiss. Took a taxi to her sister's house and invited me in. Ok, her sister was like 30 years old. 2 kids and husband. Worked at the same factory. Very nice people but kinda saw through me and kinda hinted that the factory job was hard to find and pleaded / hinted not to miss lead her sister. I left depressed and saddened. I wanted to tap my TLL friend but knew my intentions were short term. I think there was pull towards me a the rich farrange but her sister pulling her the other direction (with good reason).[/QUOTE]That's nice of you and the behaviour of a decent man. But what I do not understand is why not simply tell her the truth; say you like her and would like to sleep with her, but it will be a one-time thing only. Sure, she may say "no thanks", in which case you end up at the same place you ended up now. Or she may say "ok".
What do you have to lose in this case?
On the other hand, I don't think her behaviour was so nice to you. Asking you, a stranger, to take her to KFC and then to pay for her groceries? Myself, I'd become suspicious about the KFC, but might have tagged along if it felt ok and I wanted to eat myself too. When the request about Big C came, I'd just tell her goodbye. Fuc[k]ing rude that was. You were far too nice imo and she was milking you. I doubt you were the first either, as normal women don't suddenly out of the blue think it's a good idea to invite a stranger to go buy their groceries.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1301626]You mean like the FRENCHman. LOL. Being an intelligent human I'm one of those who juxt couldn't lead a thai girl on for FREE sex-I actually find it dispicable. A non-thai with $s and a girl aspiring to get $ are just not playing on equal levels. In other word. The one who has the gold makes the rules!
I just rented a studio apt in good area of town, thong lo, one mointh is ok. 500 for refrig. Is extra, those scoundrel thais- total rent now 270$ a month. LOL.[/QUOTE]Not a bad deal, now you can get all the free sex you want living in Thong lor. Girls like that area hehe
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1301615]Better one.
"The forum for men who have to pay for it!"[/QUOTE]Nah,"The forum for men who would rather pay for it."
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1302019]Nah, "The forum for men who would rather pay for it."[/QUOTE]"Rather pay for it." Seems to be somewhat of an enigma. Or, possibly even an oxymoron?
Of course, we all can agree a man usually pays something, one way or another. And, very occasionally, even a woman pays!
I often get the impression, though, that some mongers have no choice in the matter. A "free" relationship is no longer a possibility for them whether they want it, or not.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1302030]"Rather pay for it." Seems to be somewhat of an enigma. Or, possibly even an oxymoron?[/QUOTE]I'd call it self-delusion.
Self-delusional in the same way as the people saying "we don't pay them to come, we pay them to leave". How many here would pay a beautiful 19 year old student, who drops by in her student uniform in between lectures, to leave? Quite a bit fewer than the ones who'd pay her to come, I bet.
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1301777]Wow, what a gentlemanly behavior. Is it worth it to give false hope to desperate women. It's not that you saved any big money, is it.[/QUOTE]I don't know, is it? I gave an example of what you can do. I did not say I did it.
It is easy to get laid on those sites if that is what you want.
[QUOTE=Ixgzca;1300765]That's because most of the guys are older. Their chances of picking up a young good looking Thai with no money involved are slim. But just because it's difficult for them, a lot of them say it's impossible for everyone. I've been tempted on more than a few occasions to take a few board members out to RCA one night just to show that getting a good looking Thai girl for free is not an urban myth.lol.[/QUOTE]Sorry but can you tell what or where is RCA?
Attention Jackson: can you please add my old posts on to my new account as I couldn't access (login to) my previous account of 'Osakagin', due to an email glich.
[QUOTE=Pablo; 1301304]I find this the most true in Bangkok during my many visits. I got bored of the go-go and beer bar scene and between trips (about every 6 weeks) started working the Internet circuit and as has been reported, it's pretty easy. I met a several girls, and every one turned out to be with "strings attached". It was fun setting things up, flirting before I departed, stuff like that. But after one "date", I was ready to move on. With a ST / LT bar girl, no worries. They don't expect a call back, even if you tell them you will.
But with the non-pros / semi-pros, they do. And I got the calls, emails and texts expecting me to be their committed BF. That wasn't for me. So my connections in both Thailand and Manila have all ended badly. Maybe it's my personality that I allow myself to feel bad about "dumping" them. I feel bad when I get the emails and texts wondering why I won't go out with them every night. I end up making lame excuses about "work commitments" when really I just want a new and different girl.
So for me, I've given up on working the Internet sites for hook ups. Wolvenvacht's quote hits the nail on the head for me. If I lived there, it might be different. But when I am there for 10-20 days, I want to be Mr. Butterfly. And for me, the pre-arranged Internet hook ups doesn't lend it self to that.[/QUOTE]My experience pretty much alike with you. Last couple or years I have stopped hunting girls from bars or soapies. I have started using of internet and everybody knows how to get your girl. M of mid fifty's and easy to assume that, my girls are not young. They are over than 37. Whenever my feet steps on BKK soil, there are almost a dozen of phone numbers are with me.
I stay 10 to 20 days and whenever I finish meeting with the listed girls, I leave. In the beginning I also feel guilty like you, m I dumping them? Now days I don't feel like that. I get a realization, m not only internet BF for them. They are same like me. Yes I do lie with them and I know they lie with me too. M in course of what m doing from last days, still not given up.
And money? Off course nothing is free; there a cost involved too in any cover.
[QUOTE=Werqweq; 1302038]I'd call it self-delusion.
Self-delusional in the same way as the people saying "we don't pay them to come, we pay them to leave". How many here would pay a beautiful 19 year old student, who drops by in her student uniform in between lectures, to leave? Quite a bit fewer than the ones who'd pay her to come, I bet.[/QUOTE].
Not really. Try having that 19 year old staying in your room day in day out, expecting tuition fees and all else paid for, having expectations yet being 19 years old (and no, I am not 23). And chances are that the girl is not a rocket scientist nor reading Proust or Hegel or even basic accounting. Been there done that. Now we might qualify it by asking which university's uniform she's wearing, if it is a Chula or Thammasat one, it might be worth a conversation. Amazing how many guys I meet who have this university student fantasy, and then they tell me they met a Ramkamhaeng girl in Gullivers or somewhere and are convinced that she is a good girl just out for a night on the town. Those 19 year old university students, I pay them to leave 1000. But if they are good, they are allowed to leave more than once.
[QUOTE=Werqweq; 1302038]I'd call it self-delusion.
Self-delusional in the same way as the people saying "we don't pay them to come, we pay them to leave". How many here would pay a beautiful 19 year old student, who drops by in her student uniform in between lectures, to leave? Quite a bit fewer than the ones who'd pay her to come, I bet.[/QUOTE]Yup, half the posters here think they're Charlie Sheen.
[QUOTE=Werqweq;1302038]How many here would pay a beautiful 19 year old student, who drops by in her student uniform in between lectures, to leave?[/QUOTE]I'd pay a 19 year old Gisele Bundchen to leave after 24 hours or else I would have to leave. After a while I get tired of them, no matter how sexy they are. Of course in a day or two I would want her to come back. Face it man, we pay for them to come and we pay for them to leave. We pay if they are our wives or girlfriends. We pay if they are our hookers. We are men. Life is pretty good.
[QUOTE=Werqweq; 1302038]I'd call it self-delusion.
Self-delusional in the same way as the people saying "we don't pay them to come, we pay them to leave". How many here would pay a beautiful 19 year old student, who drops by in her student uniform in between lectures, to leave? Quite a bit fewer than the ones who'd pay her to come, I bet.[/QUOTE]You probably got the say in a wrong way. It is true they come for money and but it is also true that, whilst we always tend to delay the payment to the end (to make sure they perform) sometime we give them the money earlier than expected to get them out of the room. Second situation is that we also know that often some try to stay attach as much as they can to milk something more (gift, visit to the gold shop etc). Since they are p4p, handling over the money is a way to cut the story short and have them leaving. You would not do that to a real friend.
Both camps are accusing each other of being delusional. That's quite amusing.
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1302120]Both camps are accusing each other of being delusional. That's quite amusing.[/QUOTE]I am not actually accusing anybody but rather making a sort of a statement on a possible different POV.
There is no war going on here.
[QUOTE=Werqweq; 1302038]I'd call it self-delusion.
Self-delusional in the same way as the people saying "we don't pay them to come, we pay them to leave". How many here would pay a beautiful 19 year old student, who drops by in her student uniform in between lectures, to leave? Quite a bit fewer than the ones who'd pay her to come, I bet.[/QUOTE]I would. I don't care how great looking a gal is. After an hour or so, I am ready to get rid of them and don't really want to see them again for quite awhile. Given multiple options like we have as residents of BKK, I imagine most men would feel the same.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1302158]I would. I don't care how great looking a gal is. After an hour or so, I am ready to get rid of them and don't really want to see them again for quite awhile. Given multiple options like we have as residents of BKK, I imagine most men would feel the same.[/QUOTE]Interesting. Can you fashion this thought into a slogan?
"Given multiple options like we have as residents of BKK, I imagine most men would feel the same."
Maybe "most men" on this forum might think this way.
I've "lived" with several P4P women in the past, and "dated" a few as friends, and I can say that they are almost just like other women, although usually much better in bed!
They were also very good at telling lies. ;)
[QUOTE=Werqweq;1302002]That's nice of you and the behaviour of a decent man. But what I do not understand is why not simply tell her the truth; say you like her and would like to sleep with her, but it will be a one-time thing only. Sure, she may say "no thanks", in which case you end up at the same place you ended up now. Or she may say "ok".[/QUOTE]Well, I think I would have fessed up with my true intention if I hadn't established a "friendship" over email and Skype before arriving in BKK and meeting her. I kinda used the premise that I wanted a Bangkok girlfriend and she seemed ok with the concept even though I have a longterm relationship at home. Two things changed my mind: it wasn going to be practicle taking this super long cab rides to her area; and honestly. I really get the point that even though her job sucks. I wasn't prepared to string her along and take away what stability she had. She had assembled electronics. But its still a assembly line job.
My point is that it's too easy to get eager before arriving and set up multiple girls via the Internet. But once there, I realized it wasn't necessary and I didn't get the kind of girl I wanted. Mind you, she exceeded many of my expectations except for the fact that she really wanted a long term boyfriend. Not what I wanted.
I did end up with another 19 y / o from Pattaya moving in with me for 3 months. It was awesome. I'm pretty sure I was lucky as she was not a working girl but may have ended up at a bar within days of me arriving. Met her in Pattaya on Walking St, she thought I wanted her friends but was shocked that I wanted her. Invited her to BKK after a fantastic night. She was kinda confused when I handed her BT after the night in Pattaya. I said it was for school.
In BKK, she bacame my little plaything and friend. She saved me tonnes of money as she thought I had none. So she taught me how to live real cheap in Thailand. My last night, I needed to buy gifts from Bangkok. I gave a 3000 bt and she came back with an outrageous amount a things and only spent 2000k giving me back the balance.
And her body was unbelievable. She loved staying in watching bootleg movies (in Thai with English subtitles) and letting me play with her at my whim. She was a catch and she understood the deal. Never gave her money except for food and when I said go buy some clothes etc. When I left, I gave her about 10000 bt but that was for close to 90 of unlimited play. I didn't veer too much except when coming home from work or on my lunches. SOL, Tulip and Nataree were my haunts when I felt superhuman.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1302212]Interesting. Can you fashion this thought into a slogan?
"Given multiple options like we have as residents of BKK, I imagine most men would feel the same."
Maybe "most men" on this forum might think this way.
I've "lived" with several P4P women in the past, and "dated" a few as friends, and I can say that they are almost just like other women, although usually much better in bed!
They were also very good at telling lies. .[/QUOTE]Lived with a bar girl myself once. Would never do it again. Asian guys have the compartmentalization thing figured out. Have a gal you enjoy being with at home that brings something to the table besides the wet spot between her legs and then go out and have fun with P4P gals. It works quite well methinks.
I think one runs the risk of rampant lies no matter what strata of society one's Thai gal is from. Just part of the culture.
[QUOTE=Wildhawk;1302097]Yup, half the posters here think they're Charlie Sheen.[/QUOTE]The other half, like me, do not know who this Sheen guy is.
[QUOTE=Dreams;1302347]The other half, like me, do not know who this Sheen guy is.[/QUOTE]He's Martin Sheen's son, son.
A couple of days ago during the course of my day I met a girl, this was not on a social basis. One of the first things I noticed was her enormous rack. She's a professional, owns her own business, and it's not selling puss. So we chatted a bit I asked her out during the lunch hour. Was over by Silom, and King Chaula Hosp. We had a really good time, and a genuine connection.
She's a bit older than most of you care for, however no kids and said never married, Did confess she had a Thai B / F, but ended that a 2 years ago. I played footsies with her and watched her eyes as at first she was shocked and really didn't know how to react. Then I mentioned how I'd like to see her in a more social setting, which she said that would be good. At that point I knew it was going to be fun!
I made arrangements for a short time room a little distance from her office so she would be comfortable and discussed this with her, she was more than ready. I went first paid and waited for a cab to drop her, the minute she arrived and the door was shut it was non stop full court press GFE. DFK, BBBJ, DATY and uncovered intercourse.
I have read the last couple of weeks of thread about whether these girls will screw, and looked at the sociologist dissect this and of course some will call bullshit. I say get a life and go get some pussy.
BTW she's 49. Cute as a button and 38 D tits.
[QUOTE=Monte3; 1302605]I have read the last couple of weeks of thread about whether these girls will screw, and looked at the sociologist dissect this and of course some will call bullshit. I say get a life and go get some pussy.
BTW she's 49. Cute as a button and 38 D tits.[/QUOTE]Great one! Well done.
[QUOTE=Monte3; 1302605]A couple of days ago during the course of my day I met a girl, this was not on a social basis. One of the first things I noticed was her enormous rack. She's a professional, owns her own business, and it's not selling puss. So we chatted a bit I asked her out during the lunch hour. Was over by Silom, and King Chaula Hosp. We had a really good time, and a genuine connection.
She's a bit older than most of you care for, however no kids and said never married, Did confess she had a Thai B / F, but ended that a 2 years ago. I played footsies with her and watched her eyes as at first she was shocked and really didn't know how to react. Then I mentioned how I'd like to see her in a more social setting, which she said that would be good. At that point I knew it was going to be fun!
I made arrangements for a short time room a little distance from her office so she would be comfortable and discussed this with her, she was more than ready. I went first paid and waited for a cab to drop her, the minute she arrived and the door was shut it was non stop full court press GFE. DFK, BBBJ, DATY and uncovered intercourse.
I have read the last couple of weeks of thread about whether these girls will screw, and looked at the sociologist dissect this and of course some will call bullshit. I say get a life and go get some pussy.
BTW she's 49. Cute as a button and 38 D tits.[/QUOTE]Good for you! I have had some marvelous sexual experiences with Thai chicks over 35. They tend to be far better in the sack than the younger gals.
[QUOTE=Monte3; 1302605]A couple of days ago during the course of my day I met a girl, this was not on a social basis. One of the first things I noticed was her enormous rack. She's a professional, owns her own business, and it's not selling puss. So we chatted a bit I asked her out during the lunch hour. Was over by Silom, and King Chaula Hosp. We had a really good time, and a genuine connection.
She's a bit older than most of you care for, however no kids and said never married, Did confess she had a Thai B / F, but ended that a 2 years ago. I played footsies with her and watched her eyes as at first she was shocked and really didn't know how to react. Then I mentioned how I'd like to see her in a more social setting, which she said that would be good. At that point I knew it was going to be fun!
I made arrangements for a short time room a little distance from her office so she would be comfortable and discussed this with her, she was more than ready. I went first paid and waited for a cab to drop her, the minute she arrived and the door was shut it was non stop full court press GFE. DFK, BBBJ, DATY and uncovered intercourse.
I have read the last couple of weeks of thread about whether these girls will screw, and looked at the sociologist dissect this and of course some will call bullshit. I say get a life and go get some pussy.
BTW she's 49. Cute as a button and 38 D tits.[/QUOTE]He he good work. And you are absolutely right. This turned out to be a more "social setting" hehe. This is the big advantage of a mongorer forum. We have our standards and to meet, wine and dine is sometimes not "social" enough. We want more.
And sometimes I find "oldies" 10years plus from my age (39) very sexy. I have seen someone in a gym (don't recall the name) but it is close to Sat21. Wow sexy stunners.
I also met a lady once (through DIA). She was claiming she was 37 and no kids. She was all good looking and a nice body. After a few drinks she admitted she was 47 and had 2 kids. Since I was not going to relationship her I did not mind, still I gave her "the I don't like to be lied to act" and she did everything in her power to make up for the lying part. She managed quite well and it was a very good session. She never did hear from me again. Since I lied a little bit of my contactdetails (atleast the details were highly temporary).
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1302703]Good for you! I have had some marvelous sexual experiences with Thai chicks over 35. They tend to be far better in the sack than the younger gals.[/QUOTE]About two years back I met one girl. 42 when we met, she had had a German husband previously so her English was excellent.
We met twice in BKK, bonked in a very nice way and I figured that was that.
However, every month she would send me an sms just reminding she was still in BKK and ready for me anytime I came back. Also she had a great rack and nice long wavy hair.
Last year had another BKK trip for a conference and she stayed in my room for 2 days. Every time theres a coffee break, I return to my room and she gave me an outstanding blow.
Was in BKK last month and met her at midnite (had to do the Cowboy / Nana thing first ). Back to the Sheraton with said girl, and had great sex till sun up. She left hotel taking the complimentary fruit and thats it. There are some wonderful girls over 40 in Thailand! (and in Manila I'm often playing with the 18 year olds! LOL.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1302360]He's Martin Sheen's son, son.[/QUOTE]Still don't know what this other Sheen is. But don't give a damn anyway.
[QUOTE=Monte3;1302605]Then I mentioned how I'd like to see her in a more social setting, which she said that would be good...I made arrangements for a short time room[/QUOTE]LOL. Since when does social setting = ST room?
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1302757]LOL. Since when does social setting = ST room?[/QUOTE]Hehe, true that. I have dated a lot of non p4p (should say slept with, actually) and never brought myself to book a short time Hotel. I don't know why, is it because I respect the girl enough not to make her fuck me in a dingy "Tulip Style" room? Is it because I myself don't like rooms or hotels that don't have the minimum Amenities? I'd rather fork 2, 000 for a room for the afternoon rather than book a ST Hotel but that's just me.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1302721]About two years back I met one girl. 42 when we met, she had had a German husband previously so her English was excellent.
We met twice in BKK, bonked in a very nice way and I figured that was that.
However, every month she would send me an sms just reminding she was still in BKK and ready for me anytime I came back. Also she had a great rack and nice long wavy hair.
Last year had another BKK trip for a conference and she stayed in my room for 2 days. Every time theres a coffee break, I return to my room and she gave me an outstanding blow.
Was in BKK last month and met her at midnite (had to do the Cowboy / Nana thing first ). Back to the Sheraton with said girl, and had great sex till sun up. She left hotel taking the complimentary fruit and thats it. There are some wonderful girls over 40 in Thailand! (and in Manila I'm often playing with the 18 year olds! LOL.[/QUOTE]Nice to hear. I have a gal that is in her mid-40s, married before to a Farang, never had kids, exercises, etc, that I see every few months. She has an amazing skill set and enjoys all holes being plundered. No shyness and great gusto in the sack. Wish I had a few more of these.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1302763]Hehe, true that. I have dated a lot of non p4p (should say slept with, actually) and never brought myself to book a short time Hotel. I don't know why, is it because I respect the girl enough not to make her fuck me in a dingy "Tulip Style" room? Is it because I myself don't like rooms or hotels that don't have the minimum Amenities? I'd rather fork 2, 000 for a room for the afternoon rather than book a ST Hotel but that's just me.[/QUOTE]We all know you rent hotel rooms and bring your laptop and then spend the night jerking off to intense chat sessions with camfrog girls.
Arrived to Thailand after few days in Laos. Started at Nana plaza, Spankies, great looking girls but left after a short time simply the situation and the atmosphere does not suit me. Walked on Soi 4 away from Sukomvit on the right side there is a bar called Hillary (number 2 I think) sat there and watched the girls. I watched a tennis game and had a beer. I think I can count on two fingers the girls I liked, I guess I am quite picky. Almost gave up and suddenly a girl shows up and say hello with a smile, I ask her to sit down but she says she is going to get some food and she will be back soon. She ask if I want a drink I say once you are back. After a while she comes back with some fruits and we both have a drink. She seems like a nice one, okay English and very talkative. I like her. After a while I ask her "what is the story here?"
She says 500 for the bar and 2000 for me, you can give more if you want she added smiling. I thought it's a bit too much but declined the negotiation part. She asked where do I stay and for how long and what are my intentions etc. I get the point and tell her that if she is nice enough I will keep her for the whole 3 days. I had to kiss her in the bar and it turned out that she is a great kisser and she enjoys it.
She was a GEM.
To make a long story short the day I left I told her that I never received so much kisses love and sex from any girlfriend I ever gad and I meant it.
I told her:" amazing Thailand" and she replies "amazing bar girl". That sentence summerize my Bangkok vacation.
[QUOTE=Tototamuz; 1302960]Arrived to Thailand after few days in Laos.
She was a GEM.To make a long story short the day I left I told her that I never received so much kisses love and sex from any girlfriend I ever gad and I meant it.I told her:" amazing Thailand" and she replies "amazing bar girl". That sentence summerize my Bangkok vacation.[/QUOTE]Great post. Did you keep the 2000LT daily rate for the 3 days?
Dark by decree: that was Soi Cowboy on April 9, lights out with the bars and go-gos closed by official order for the royal cremation ceremonies. My timing didn't seem to be stellar, but I had made my trip plans without realizing how serious the Thais take their eternal sendoffs for departed royalty. And as it turned out, daytime pleasures were still fully in play; see my reports on the Massage Parlors forum. But I wondered about that night's companionship options as I strolled through Soi Cowboy on the first evening of this stay in Bangkok.
Fortunately, I had made taken the possibility of a pussy blackout into account by booking a couple of nights at Livingstone's Lodge on Soi 33. Guido had assured me that the Sports Bar with its onsite hostesses would be open, and I strolled in around 10PM. I was impressed at the mix of options. There was one rather hot woman in a short skirt sitting on a bench outside (though she didn't seem very friendly) , a couple of cute slender student types, and a few apparent veterans of the place who, while not fresh young things, had sex appeal. There were around half a dozen guys in the bar enjoying the ladies' company – not nearly as many as I expected with other bars and clubs shut for the night. As I ordered a tall wheat beer I considered how to proceed. It couldn't have been simpler: one of the waitresses sent a cutie over with my beer, and I invited her to sit and bought her a drink.
This short cutie, Koy, didn't speak much English but we got along fine communicating by drawing on napkins and looking at the Thai-English phrase sheet I brought along. One thing that appealed to me was that she had a kind of Latina look to her. This included the juicy, round butt packed into her tight jeans, which I got acquainted with as she ground against my cock while we played some pool (watch out, the girl's good). After arranging with the waitress for the 1, 000 baht barfine to be charged to my room (1K after 11PM, I think 1, 500 earlier) , we headed up to my room. There she shyly lived up to her name a bit, but after my pornstar treatment at Snow White earlier in the day I didn't mind a coy sweetie to share some slow, romantic sex with, then and in the morning. Well worth the 2, 000 baht for her.
Livingstone's is well placed for visits to the massage parlors on Soi 24 and 26, where I spent the afternoon of my second day. My plan for my night's activities was my virgin trip to Soi Cowboy. An operating Soi Cowboy, that is; at 10PM on the 10th it was a lot brighter and busier than the night before. I made a pretty extensive tour of the go-gos, watching a show at Suzy Wong's, battling the crowd at Baccara, checking out Long Gun, Rawhide, Kiss, and Tilac. One intriguing offer I received was 2, 600 for long time for the girls at Sahara. The girls, all sitting inside near the entrance, were youngish but bored looking (the place was dead) , and the real deal killer was that the mamasan wanted the entire payment up front, so I moved on.
I thought I found the perfect fishing spot at Shark. The girls looked as good as at Baccara, but the place was a lot more comfortable without the crowding. A note on the girls' looks on Soi Cowboy; some reports on the forum indicated that Bangkok's gogo's got the A-team girls while the B-team settled for working in Pattaya. I didn't find this to be the case – I thought the gogo girls in Pattaya later on my trip were easily as good looking as the ones at Soi Cowboy, if not better overall. Which makes it clear that it's the big city setting that prompts the far higher barfines in BKK than in Pattaya. At Shark I was quoted 4, 000 baht for long time for the girls there, and figured that was ok for my last night in town.
My two prospects there didn't pan out. My lady drink interview with a tall, slim cutie was pleasant enough, but at close range it seemed that she was mostly style over substance, with the permed hair and fake eyelashes being her most noteworthy features. I wanted more for 4, 000 (plus 1, 000 barfine) , and I thought I found it. The next option looked a bit like a hot Korean-American friend of mine, and I was really looking forward to getting her back to the Lodge. Unfortunately, she said that she would only go for short time, which was not what I had in mind, so without additional prospects in sight I move on.
I had read a good review about Sheba's (although the author had rendered the name Seabass, which at least fits in with the fish theme so far that night) , so I settled in there. It was definitely a notch or two lower in quality than Shark, but at least the girls were fully nude. I immediately set my sights on the girl with the curviest figure (forgot her name, sorry). I wasn't completely sold on her face (a little too square, something I notice with some Thai girls, and she had a kind of awkward smile) , but her body was pretty nice, and a step up from most of the other girls in the place. She later told me her boobs were fake, which I sensed, but by visual and hands-on inspection I couldn't find proof. At 3, 000 for overnight, plus 800 for the bar, this option was also a bit more economical, so after sitting over a drink for a while the girl got dressed (the tight plaid dress she had on really showed off her bust and butt) and we headed out.
After a stop for some street food we walked back to Livingstone's. Things started to fall apart soon after we got to the room. Seeing her get ready for bed really took away a lot of the anticipation – the whole shower cap, face cream, and gargling regimen was not designed to keep me hard; it's like she left her sexy at the door. And not just during the run-up to the main event. Her kissing was minimal and BJ skills poor. Passion was completely lacking; she went through the motions like a toll collector. As a result I had a hard time having a hard time, and so we went to sleep without consummating things. I made up for it in the morning, but it was a release and nothing more. Hindsight says: I should have gotten me a Livingstone's lady instead.
See my report on daytime activities on the Bangkok Massage Parlors – Except Tulip and Annies Forum, and the continuation on Pattaya Reports Forum
[QUOTE=Ibn Buttita; 1302990] (plus 1, 000 barfine) [/QUOTE]Another 1000 barfine? Is this a trend?
Made a first trip to Bangkok, and blown away.
Stayed in hotel Dynasty right near Nana plaza, and picked up this cutie on my 2nd night from Rainbow4. I think she got 3k baht for long time plus 600 bar fine.
We had such a good time that I decided to take her to Pataya with me the next day for the rest of the week. I forget the exact ammount, but I think it worked out to $600 for 6 days of her spending with me.
She was really sweet, and cool to hang out with, and it was additionally awesome because she kind of acted as a tour guide and showing the sights.
Thinking back though, I kinda regret locking myself in with one girl for the whole week. Next time I return, planning for sometime early 2013, I plan to go for quantity and volume.
We still keep in touch, and I'll deffinitely see her when I go back. Maybe just on a platonic level, or I'll hire her to be my tour guide or something for a cpl days, as long as she is comfortable that I plan to sample some of the other delicacies
Hi all,
Planning to be in BKK in the near future and see from Air Asia that they will be using Don Mueang Airport.
Sorry but me geography is lousy. How does this affect our travel to downtown, normally SOI 11 for me?
Taxi, Bus Metro.
Yes I did check the form, so unless it is well hidden, there seems no info out there,
Any input very much appreciated.
BB
[QUOTE=TotoTamuz; 1302960]To make a long story short the day I left I told her that I never received so much kisses love and sex from any girlfriend I ever gad and I meant it.
I told her:" amazing Thailand" and she replies "amazing bar girl". That sentence summerize my Bangkok vacation.[/QUOTE]These stories should really be used by the Tourist Office. Nice report.
Not bad. She appears little bit pumpui in the midsection! I would have liked to seen her face though!!
[QUOTE=Boater Boy; 1303461]Hi all,
Planning to be in BKK in the near future and see from Air Asia that they will be using Don Mueang Airport. Sorry but me geography is lousy. How does this affect our travel to downtown, normally SOI 11 for me? BB[/QUOTE]What about trying Googlemaps? Internet is not only porn sites LOL
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1303463]These stories should really be used by the Tourist Office. Nice report.[/QUOTE]Now everybody will head to Hillary pub in Nana trying to catch the gem
[QUOTE=PimpinIt; 1303368]Made a first trip to Bangkok, and blown away.
Stayed in hotel Dynasty right near Nana plaza, and picked up this cutie on my 2nd night from Rainbow4. I think she got 3k baht for long time plus 600 bar fine.
We had such a good time that I decided to take her to Pataya with me the next day for the rest of the week. I forget the exact ammount, but I think it worked out to $600 for 6 days of her spending with me.
She was really sweet, and cool to hang out with, and it was additionally awesome because she kind of acted as a tour guide and showing the sights.
Thinking back though, I kinda regret locking myself in with one girl for the whole week. Next time I return, planning for sometime early 2013, I plan to go for quantity and volume.
We still keep in touch, and I'll deffinitely see her when I go back. Maybe just on a platonic level, or I'll hire her to be my tour guide or something for a cpl days, as long as she is comfortable that I plan to sample some of the other delicacies[/QUOTE]Just be careful with Rainbow 4, one of my friends younger sisters works in there and she is just 15. And that is not any bullshit. Fake I'd cards are easy to get made in Thailand.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1303469]Not bad. She appears little bit pumpui in the midsection! I would have liked to seen her face though!![/QUOTE]HAHA. The whole time I was spending with her she would tell me she is getting pumpui, then next she is asking me to buy her more food.
I feel bad to show her face because not sure she wants that, but I'll try and get a club name that I can share.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1303475]What about trying Googlemaps? Internet is not only porn sites LOL[/QUOTE]The only time I used Google Maps was when I wanted to find Tulip. In the end I gave up and asked Giotti.
Seriously though are the costs about the same by taxi? If I remember correctly I used to pay around 400 Bhat to SOI 11.
BB
[QUOTE=Boater Boy;1303509]The only time I used Google Maps was when I wanted to find Tulip. In the end I gave up and asked Giotti.Seriously though are the costs about the same by taxi? If I remember correctly I used to pay around 400 Bhat to SOI 11.BB[/QUOTE]Don Muang is 10km more far than BKK so do the math. Maybe the extra is the cost of a beer at Soi Cowboy.
[QUOTE= She was a GEM.
To make a long story short the day I left I told her that I never received so much kisses love and sex from any girlfriend I ever gad and I meant it.
I told her:" amazing Thailand" and she replies "amazing bar girl". That sentence summerize my Bangkok vacation.[/QUOTE]Please excuse me for being uneducated but what does GEM mean? Did this girl have a name?
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1302979]Great post. Did you keep the 2000LT daily rate for the 3 days?[/QUOTE]Yes, and every day as she was as nice as a lover and as a girlfriend can be, I added 300 for appreciation.
Looking to book my 3rd trip to happy land and first time to Pattaya. Last time I was there in March I paid 1150 airfare. Now it 1475 to 1700 for a plane ticket. I did some searching and found that it is only 1167 if I fly to Hong Kong then book a flight with Hong Kong airlines to Bangkok. I have tried every travel site I know of. Maybe someone can give me a better site to try.
Thanks for any replies.
HD3
[QUOTE=Horndog 3; 1303757]Looking to book my 3rd trip to happy land and first time to Pattaya. Last time I was there in March I paid 1150 airfare. Now it 1475 to 1700 for a plane ticket. I did some searching and found that it is only 1167 if I fly to Hong Kong then book a flight with Hong Kong airlines to Bangkok. I have tried every travel site I know of. Maybe someone can give me a better site to try.
Thanks for any replies.
HD3[/QUOTE]Just the other day thinking I had to get back to the States again at the last minute I started to check all flights and airlines going to S. F. I usually go thru Taipei, but full, so started to look at Hong Kong, check Cathay Pacific and the price showed up at 130, 000 baht plus for economy. I had used CP website before and I have seen their prices above and beyond what everyone is charging but this is crazy! Not sure why? Maybe someone can confirm what I'm seeing. If true it makes no sense that is more than first class on other carriers.
LBM
[QUOTE=Horndog 3; 1303757]Looking to book my 3rd trip to happy land and first time to Pattaya. Last time I was there in March I paid 1150 airfare. Now it 1475 to 1700 for a plane ticket. I did some searching and found that it is only 1167 if I fly to Hong Kong then book a flight with Hong Kong airlines to Bangkok. I have tried every travel site I know of. Maybe someone can give me a better site to try.
Thanks for any replies.
HD3[/QUOTE]Would be an idea to post the sites you used so members don't provide the same ones you're using.
[QUOTE=Horndog 3; 1303757]snip. I have tried every travel site I know of. Maybe someone can give me a better site to try.
Thanks for any replies.
HD3[/QUOTE]Is kayak. Com on your list?
I like them because they monitor so many other sites and because you can set an alert to notify you when your target fare comes available.
C4T
[QUOTE=Boater Boy; 1303461]Hi all,
Planning to be in BKK in the near future and see from Air Asia that they will be using Don Mueang Airport.
Sorry but me geography is lousy. How does this affect our travel to downtown, normally SOI 11 for me?
Taxi, Bus Metro.
Yes I did check the form, so unless it is well hidden, there seems no info out there,
Any input very much appreciated.
BB[/QUOTE]As others pointed out you can see where they are from Google Maps.
There is not much difference in distance by the crow flies from Sukhumwit Soi 11 to either airport, but Don Mueang usually is cheaper as a bit more direct path. If you can afford air fare then you can afford a meter taxi. They are very cheap.
[QUOTE=Horndog 3;1303757]Looking to book my 3rd trip to happy land and first time to Pattaya. Last time I was there in March I paid 1150 airfare. Now it 1475 to 1700 for a plane ticket. I did some searching and found that it is only 1167 if I fly to Hong Kong then book a flight with Hong Kong airlines to Bangkok. I have tried every travel site I know of. Maybe someone can give me a better site to try.Thanks for any replies.HD3[/QUOTE]Hi season, low season, fuel surcharge, airport fees, occupancy on flights, vacation period for your origin airport, reduced connections. All price factors. If you don't tell your origin airport it is also tough to help.
[QUOTE=Boater Boy; 1303509]The only time I used Google Maps was when I wanted to find Tulip. In the end I gave up and asked Giotti.
Seriously though are the costs about the same by taxi? If I remember correctly I used to pay around 400 Bhat to SOI 11.
BB[/QUOTE]Hope you can board the plane alone then. If in doubt, ask your airline for U. M. Assistance, but then be sure to prebook a girl to welcome you on arrival, to act as a older sister, LOL.
I should have known that you gentlemen would need more info if I wanted any help.
I will be flying out of Chicago, IL. USA.
Looking for Oct. 13 through 26.
Site's that I have used.
American Airline.
United.
Delta.
Cathay Pacific.
Korean air.
Japan air.
Price line.
Orbitz.
Kayak.
Travelocity.
Hot wire.
Cheap o air.
Expedia.
The cheapest thing I found was rt on United to Hong Kong for 895 then book a flight on Hong Kong air from Hong Honk to Bangkok for 272.
But then I nee to spend more money on 2 hotel nights.
Rainbow 4 a few maybe 19 to 25 most heading towards 40 smile.
Went to Baccaras last night (Saturday). Lots and saw mostly japanese punters. Many hot thai girls. In my eyes the most beautiful of them was number 015, and I saw many men asking her to come over and sit with them, but no deals were made. I saw one japanese man holding 5 fingers, and I guess that means 5000 baht, and she went back on stage and never went back to him. I tried to get eye contact with her, but she didn't seem interested in any guys there.
Later I went to dollhouse, and on 2 second floor I spotted a sexy little spinner. Forgot her name, but she was 21 and from Buriram in Isaan. Too bad I forgot to ask her if she had a baby already, BEFORE we made a deal, because having a baby will make changes to thei sexy bodies. Asked her on the way back home, and she told me she had 1 kid. Her pussy will not be remembered, but she did an amazing job with her mouth. Finished all over her face and mouth. Damage was 600 BF and 2000 for shorttime. Negotiated down from 2500.
My best experience so far is a girl I met outside of Soi Cowboy earlier that day, just after I came to Thailand and checked into the hotel. Around 4 in the morning, I took a stroll outside of the hotel, an spotted a nice little thing sitting in one of the bars outside of Soi Cowboy. 20 years old, and she told me her she had only been working for a month, and oh boy her pussy was tight. She didn't speak so good english, but our sex chemistry was great. She gave an amazing blowjob with DT. Took her for long time, and fucked her at least 4 times. The condom broke twice, and that was sad. Since the damage was already done, I fucked her the last time without a condom. A VERY stupid thing to do!!!!
Gave her 2000 baht, and I guess I was overpaying.
Tomorrow I will head for Pattaya.
[MaQUOTE=The Pro; 1303493]Just be careful with Rainbow 4, one of my friends younger sisters works in there and she is just 15. And that is not any bullshit. Fake I'd cards are easy to get made in Thailand.[/QUOTE]
How many PMs did you get wanting the young one's number? LOL. I can just see an increase at RB 4 after all the pervs seeing this. Kinda like how a guy tries to be clever and asks where are the ladyboy bars are so that he can avoid them haha
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1304166]Kinda like how a guy tries to be clever and asks where are the ladyboy bars are so that he can avoid them haha[/QUOTE]Don't forget that in such a case the guy is not asking for himself, but for a friend of him!
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1304166]How many PMs did you get wanting the young one's number? LOL. I can just see an increase at RB 4 after all the pervs seeing this. Kinda like how a guy tries to be clever and asks where are the ladyboy bars are so that he can avoid them haha[/QUOTE]There's very young and under-aged girls in many Bangkok go-go bars.
Last year. I was in one and two 16yos were doing a lesbian show (their first). All the other dancers were sitting in the stand laughing. It was quite cute.
BTW, there is a brand new LB bar / a-g0-g0 across from the Foodland in Patpong.
Great new German restaurant right next door, too. Sausage specials almost every night!
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1304182]BTW, there is a brand new LB bar / a-g0-g0 across from the Foodland in Patpong.
Great new German restaurant right next door, too. Sausage specials almost every night![/QUOTE]Seems you can't choose a wrong door if you're keen on sausages.
[QUOTE=Strikesfun;1304057]Rainbow 4 a few maybe 19 to 25 most heading towards 40 smile.[/QUOTE]Was in Rainbow 4 last Thursday for the first time in ages and was amazed at how average to ugly most of the gals were. Granted there was one shift with 10 girls who were quite stunning but the overall talent level was quite poor. Astonished that guys will pay in excess of 100 USD (gal's fee, BF, and drinks) to doink one of these girls. Very little value for money there.
I would look up some of the discount airlines. Air asia, Tiger, Cebu pacific. I don't know who flyies where but you won't find them on expedia and those type of sights. Maybe google for the names.
[QUOTE=Horndog 3; 1304040]I should have known that you gentlemen would need more info if I wanted any help.
I will be flying out of Chicago, IL. USA.
Looking for Oct. 13 through 26.
The cheapest thing I found was rt on United to Hong Kong for 895 then book a flight on Hong Kong air from Hong Honk to Bangkok for 272.
But then I nee to spend more money on 2 hotel nights.[/QUOTE]Book RT HKG-BKK. On Air Asia. Other Airlines Emirates (or is it Etihad) , Sri Lankan Airways. They are lot cheaper than Thai. But $1167 is not a bad price.
[QUOTE=Horndog 3; 1304040]The cheapest thing I found was rt on United to Hong Kong for 895 then book a flight on Hong Kong air from Hong Honk to Bangkok for 272.
But then I nee to spend more money on 2 hotel nights.[/QUOTE]Save yourself the costs of a hotel and party the night away!
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1303824]Just the other day thinking I had to get back to the States again at the last minute I started to check all flights and airlines going to S. F. I usually go thru Taipei, but full, so started to look at Hong Kong, check Cathay Pacific and the price showed up at 130, 000 baht plus for economy. I had used CP website before and I have seen their prices above and beyond what everyone is charging but this is crazy! Not sure why? Maybe someone can confirm what I'm seeing. If true it makes no sense that is more than first class on other carriers.
LBM[/QUOTE]Earlier this year I tried to book a last minute flight for the short trip from HKG to BKK with a Chinese airline. I was quoted 3000 Canadian dollars for business class! WTF.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1302629]I'll dissect your post. LOL.
49 is more that a bit older than most guys like.
For a post like yours you really need to include photos. Jsut like skogis head accountant.
Whats going on at rainbow4. One of the dek serves one might call Leathery is now on stage. LOL. Not a pretty sight at all-at first glance she stood out becoz she was Leathery. LOL.[/QUOTE]I've met late 30's & 40 something TGs who are hotter than almost all at Rainbow 4 & those you see in After Dark magazine.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1304297]Was in Rainbow 4 last Thursday for the first time in ages and was amazed at how average to ugly most of the gals were. Granted there was one shift with 10 girls who were quite stunning but the overall talent level was quite poor. Astonished that guys will pay in excess of 100 USD (gal's fee, BF, and drinks) to doink one of these girls. Very little value for money there.[/QUOTE]I noticed the same thing a year or two ago.
[QUOTE=Horndog 3; 1304040]I should have known that you gentlemen would need more info if I wanted any help.
I will be flying out of Chicago, IL. USA.
Looking for Oct. 13 through 26.[/QUOTE]Use this site.
[url]http://matrix.itasoftware.com/[/url]
Out of HKG to BKK if needed use this airline.
[url]http://www.airasia.com/ot/en/home.page[/url]
[QUOTE=Mackin;1304316]I would look up some of the discount airlines. Air asia, Tiger, Cebu pacific. I don't know who flyies where but you won't find them on expedia and those type of sights. Maybe google for the names.[/QUOTE]Airasia has three hubs. Bangkok, Kuala Lumbur and Jakarta.
Tiger Air flies from Singapore.
Cebu Pacific flies from the Philippines.
Jetstar is also another one mainly flying from Australia, Singapore and Vietnam.
[QUOTE=Horndog 3; 1304040]I should have known that you gentlemen would need more info if I wanted any help.
I will be flying out of Chicago, IL. USA.
Looking for Oct. 13 through 26.
But then I nee to spend more money on 2 hotel nights.[/QUOTE]Horndog,
I was dating an Asian woman and she always go great deals from the travel agents in China Town. Like quite a bit cheaper. Worth taing a ride down there.
Simon Says: Save big money so you can monger more.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1304487]Earlier this year I tried to book a last minute flight for the short trip from HKG to BKK with a Chinese airline. I was quoted 3000 Canadian dollars for business class! WTF.[/QUOTE]Calculating airline prices is one of the blacker arts.
A few weeks ago I paid more for a flight from Brussels to Hamburg (1 hour and 5 minutes flight time) than I pay for Brussels to Bangkok. And to top it all, on that BRU-HAM flight we were served by stewards only. Not a stewardess in sight.
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1304487]Earlier this year I tried to book a last minute flight for the short trip from HKG to BKK with a Chinese airline. I was quoted 3000 Canadian dollars for business class! WTF.[/QUOTE]To Pink Pearl.
I got some very good deal on fare from HK to BKK last yr from a tour company round trip with 3 night hotel for only 280 USD book 3 days ahead, many tour company book hotel and airfare a lot so they get very low fare if they don't sell all the seat they will discount the seat low price at the last minute, I can get the airfare without hotel for 180 USD but for 100 buck more I can stay at the Atrium hotel for 3 night.
Fast Eddie 49
". Great new German restaurant right next door, too. Sausage specials almost every night![/QUOTE]."
Do you remember its name?
FV
[QUOTE=FlyingVisitor;1304616]". Great new German restaurant right next door, too. Sausage specials almost every night!." Do you remember its name?[/QUOTE]It's called "G".
[quote=parkhurst;1301954]after trawling through the forum and enjoying the chat on internet dating, picking up non p4p's and other interesting tit bits as a newcomer to the forum i was looking for some solid information on where to go. i was after something a little different from the mango, tulip, snow white 'axis of evil' so i decided to visit tarntip on soi 7 as the post looked promising. two girls sitting outside glued to their mobiles as i asked about a jim or a jam (names provided) working there. blank stares! well anybody with a name that sounds like jim or jam. more blanks, possibly lost in translation, so again jimmmmm jammmmm finally one said * (sorry no name disclosure but shouldn't be hard to figure) i said maybe and * comes out from the shop looking decidedly puzzled. not knowing if it was the girl referred to in the post but being young and cute with a delicious body i booked a 2 hour oil massage in a private room (700 baht). not overly chatty, her massage skills were really good, strong and energetic. later towards the end of the session as she began to massage my arm she gently rested my palm on her thigh moving it up and down in a sensually caressing fashion until it was firmly lodged against her crotch where she left me to my own devices. they say the most important sex organ in the body is the brain and my imagination ran amok as i caressed her fanny. we made eye contact and it was like she wasn't aware of what was going on but of course she was. although looking as innocent and as charming as a cherubic schoolgirl out of the convent this was obviously something she had learned on how to get things moving along in the right direction. the towel which had been covering the essentials was now in the shape of an indian tepee and not being able to stand it (no pun intended) any longer i took her hand, the rest i leave to your imagination but it was memorable. this girl is wasted at this low end shop. thanks to whoever made the original post.[/quote]you're welcome parkhurst, (interesting handle). i paid a repeat visit recently and it was even better second time round. she was more relaxed there was no feigned reluctance and she left more time after the massage for playtime and she was definitely much more into enjoying herself.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1304631]It's called "G".[/QUOTE]LOL.
It's G's Bangkok Restaurant. Livingstone's latest project to get into the Patpong market.
On site is Auntie Guido (G's) , planning, managing and running this new place. Right now soft opening is ongoing. Get over there, guys, if you are around in Patpong. Try the Flensburger Pilsner - a fantastic German beer.
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1304778]LOL.
It's G's Bangkok Restaurant. Livingstone's latest project to get into the Patpong market.
On site is Auntie Guido (G's) , planning, managing and running this new place. Right now soft opening is ongoing. Get over there, guys, if you are around in Patpong. Try the Flensburger Pilsner. A fantastic German beer.
Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL][/QUOTE]Vundepa!
With you being involved at least Patpong will get a decent name and no scams!
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Waylon;1304730]You're welcome Parkhurst, (interesting handle). I paid a repeat visit recently and it was even better second time round. She was more relaxed there was no feigned reluctance and she left more time after the massage for playtime and she was definitely much more into enjoying herself.[/QUOTE]You gave us the opportunity to re-read a pece of erotic novel (no name disclosed, no prices on extra revealed, leave a bit of mistery) to send your comment (no prices, no indication of services) when you could cut off most of the quoted message, making reader's life easier.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1304823]You gave us the opportunity to re-read a pece of erotic novel (no name disclosed, no prices on extra revealed, leave a bit of mistery) to send your comment (no prices, no indication of services) when you could cut off most of the quoted message, making reader's life easier.[/QUOTE]Consider it less as a "mistery" Bionicman and more of a treasure hunt.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1304823]You gave us the opportunity to re-read a pece of erotic novel (no name disclosed, no prices on extra revealed, leave a bit of mistery) to send your comment (no prices, no indication of services) when you could cut off most of the quoted message, making reader's life easier.[/QUOTE]I've been back a number of times Waylon and you are absolutely right. To Bionicman you have to realise that Tarntip while situated alongside Eden on Soi 7/1 is not a regular oily so discretion is in order. That said you know the place, what her name sounds like and the fact she is young and cute which sets her apart from the other ladies working there. Let me just say you will know her when you see her. Prices are "up to you" but standard rates are acceptable. Services are whatever happens and I imagine varies depending on how well you connect. In the begining before she gets to know you she is a slow starter requiring patience finessing and perserverence but if you want something different from the served up on a plate fare this is it and well worth the little extra effort you may have to put in.
[quote=harold444; 1303726]doesn't make sense. why would a huge moneymaker business risk it by allowing a 15 year old?
get her number and ill see if your bargirl is full of shit. lol.
seems a top rainbow 4 girl sponsorship deal went sour. hahahahahaha. funny thing is i never seen her talk to her farang sponsor, they look so out of place together. hooker or not you can't make them like you by buying them-either they do or they don't![/quote]? strange reply.
she is a friend (the older sister) and i speak thai and have been here decades, not years. it was just general chat as i asked her where her younger sister was. no malice intended.
loads of girls in thai gogo bars are ****, its normal, they know punters think the young girls are pretty so they hire them and get the 18 year old fake i'd cards for the hotels reception when they go.
if you think there are not lots of **** girls in thailand working in the bars. you really do not know thailand very well.
prostitution is illegal in thailand you know. **** girls is just another level of illegality, who cares. unless you get caught that is, and thailand the legal age is 18. the age of 16 is also mentioned but any girl 16 to 18 in age can change her mind at any time (even days afterwards) and state it was not consensual and she is a child and the punter will be done for child abuse, hence the age of 18 is the one to go with as there is no question there and no potential come back.
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1304778]LOL.
It's G's Bangkok Restaurant. Livingstone's latest project to get into the Patpong market.
On site is Auntie Guido (G's) , planning, managing and running this new place. Right now soft opening is ongoing. Get over there, guys, if you are around in Patpong. Try the Flensburger Pilsner. A fantastic German beer.
Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL][/QUOTE]I tried the burger and it was good but not yet the beer.
Was in need of some anti-stress action and I went to BKK for a weekend. I ended up for the first time lodging at Livingstones. Co. Th Quite a nice place in the middle of the city, very well positioned for mongering activities. A very cosy place, homy feeling.
Landed on Sat eve at 18:00 went through custom, collected the bag and got on the train. Found the Lodge with a little difficulty due to a not very well visible sign (for those who have never been there before). On Sukhumvit Soi 33. Settled in, shower and out.
By 21:00 I was at Mango (1st time) because I wanted to try it at least once. Got the line up, got the names from everyone but I just recall Mon from the home page. Settled on Anna (90% as per the pictures on the web) for 2 hours. Nice little package with nice butt and silicon breast (not my fav my nicely done). Got 2hr of whatever we wanted to do. Shower and then straight into BBBJ, she got brace so it was bit rough but ok. Very nice attitude, as much as GFE you can get while having PSE. Probably we clicked and she was giving all I wanted and whenever I wanted with great attitude. From BBBJ to Anal and CIM. Got couple of pops and 5 min before the time was up, got an other BBBJ and CIM. Out at 23:00 happy, empty and relaxed. I would repeat with her but too much around to try first.
Went walking around til Nana but being without wingman I get bored easily. Did some shopping and then back home.
On Sunday I slept quite long, went for some shopping.
By 20:00 I was at Tulip. Again I wanted to try after reading alot. Got the catalog. 9 girls available. Restricted the selection to 3 busty ones. Finally settled on Golf (I recalled reading good about her on ISG). She comes up to pick me. First impression was not that good, not very nice face, but large silicon boobs, amazing big rounded butt, short. Never seen such a butt before.
In the room, shower and then PSE all the way. With me standing she gave a very DP with all noises, never got such deep before but she didn't manage to take it all. Then on the bed, she take control saying "it's my job". So went through some routine where you feel as a piece on the assembly line. Fake noises combined with PSE. 3-holes, all included. Gave to her couple of pops in 90min and left quite tired. Would definitely not repeat with her. Back in the room. 3 hours sleep and then to the airport.
Next time I want to try some top quality places as Bella, Poseidon etc. I need some high quality girl, top you can find in BKK.
Would love also a wingman for some NANA and other bar hopping. The are is FULL of japs!
Happy hunting.
TL
[QUOTE=Tits_Lover;1305419]I tried the burger and it was good but not yet the beer.[/QUOTE]The best burger I have had in town was at Gulliver's.
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[QUOTE=The Pro;1305402]Prostitution is illegal in Thailand you know.[/QUOTE]Actually prostitution is not illegal in Thailand.
Pimping is illegal.
Running a brothel is illegal (why do you think most bars & agogos only collect the barfine and then leave you and the girl to agree on any extra services?)
Causing a nuisance by publicly soliciting is illegal.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1305477]Actually prostitution is not illegal in Thailand.
Pimping is illegal.
Running a brothel is illegal (why do you think most bars & agogos only collect the barfine and then leave you and the girl to agree on any extra services?)
Causing a nuisance by publicly soliciting is illegal.[/QUOTE]Seems that just like everything else, the Thais handle the situation in their own special way.
"The Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act, B. E. 2539 (1996) (the 'Prostitution Law') , is the central legal framework prohibiting prostitution. The law defines prostitution as any act done to gratify the sexual desire of another in exchange for money or any other benefit, but only if it is done 'in a promiscuous manner'. The Prostitution Law does not define what exactly a 'promiscuous manner' constitutes, and the act of prostitution by itself is not outlawed anymore, while solicitation is. The crime of solicitation is vaguely defined."
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1305597]The Prostitution Law does not define what exactly a 'promiscuous manner' constitutes[/QUOTE]I think one is considered "promiscuous" if one does not pay tea-money on the majority of encounters. ;)
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1304490]I noticed the same thing a year or two ago.[/QUOTE]You are out of date, the standard of looks improved dramatically since then. The standard in bars varies greatly even from week to week depending on who is working and who is away.
Value for money, that is a different issue and requires careful choice. Not many of the hot girls are going at a good price. Performance likely to be not good on many girls. Cowboy seems better for performance and value for money.
[QUOTE=Tits_Lover; 1305426]Was in need of some anti-stress action and I went to BKK for a weekend. I ended up for the first time lodging at Livingstones. Co. Th Quite a nice place in the middle of the city, very well positioned for mongering activities. A very cosy place, homy feeling.
By 21:00 I was at Mango (1st time) because. Got couple of pops and 5 min before the time was up, got an other BBBJ and CIM. .[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Tits_Lover;1305426]By 20:00 I was at Tulip. Again I wanted to try after reading alot. . Gave to her couple of pops in 90min and left quite tired. Happy hunting.TL[/QUOTE]Dude seriously how many pops can you manage in 90 mins or 2 hours?
Just curious
My average is 1 pop in 90 mins and sometimes 2 pops in 2 hours.
I can do 2 in an hour pretty easily, and when the mood strikes and the woman / women is / are hot enough, I can get 4-5 loads off in 2-3 hours.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1306033]Someone has got to tell rainbow management to let the girls know that 1500 short time is ok. Hahahaha!
So many decent lookers yet no barfines. Agogo girlsat2k plus are just bad value![/QUOTE]Why don't you get some balls and do it yourself!
[QUOTE=AssLover945; 1306013]Dude seriously how many pops can you manage in 90 mins or 2 hours?
Just curious
My average is 1 pop in 90 mins and sometimes 2 pops in 2 hours.[/QUOTE]No more than 3 in 60 but the girl MUST be VERY sexy, good looking, horny and open to everything. And I must be sex starved at least for 2-3 days. Then the 1st pop is usually a quick BBBJ / CIM, second is more furious but lengthy fuck, third could be a naughty anal with CIM / COF.
3 in 120min is ok if girl is good enough.
Going for a ride and possibly top quality on SAT night, anyone around ?
TL
[QUOTE=AssLover945;1306013]Dude seriously how many pops can you manage in 90 mins or 2 hours?[/QUOTE]Three pops in 2 hours if [i][b]properly motivated[/i][/b]. Think Eden Club / Devils Den type activities along with a couple of spirited providers.
SunLover
Man, I'm in my mid 50s and can still do five in a 4 hour or shorter period if properly motivated. Big Guy! Don't fail me now.
[QUOTE=SimonHeSays;1306316]Man, I'm in my mid 50s and can still do five in a 4 hour or shorter period if properly motivated. Big Guy! Don't fail me now.[/QUOTE]Two pops in 90 min if the gal is skilled. I am in my mid-40s.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1306367]Two pops in 90 min if the gal is skilled. I am in my mid-40s.[/QUOTE]Mid sixties. 1 pop per week if the girl is skillful.
[QUOTE=Sunlover2; 1306307]Three pops in 2 hours if [i][b]properly motivated[/i][/b]. Think Eden Club / Devils Den type activities along with a couple of spirited providers.
SunLover[/QUOTE]2 in one hour easily. 3 in 2 hours when [b]improperly[/b] motivated. A few more after an extended rest, but that hardly counts as the same session. I am early 50s.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1306367]Two pops in 90 min if the gal is skilled. I am in my mid-40s.[/QUOTE]Man, I am in late 40s. Will try to do 4 in 5 hrs if properly motivated. In two separate affairs tonight in BKK.
[QUOTE=SimonHeSays;1306316]Man, I'm in my mid 50s and can still do five in a 4 hour or shorter period if properly motivated. Big Guy! Don't fail me now.[/QUOTE]How boring. Its now become the braggers thread. Focus guys. Hot girls and hot venues in Bangkok!
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1306489]How boring. Its now become the braggers thread. Focus guys. Hot girls and hot venues in Bangkok![/QUOTE]Not boring or bragging at all! If we can get some kind of "average pops per hour" then we can more easily compare prices on a "per pop" basis.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1306033]Someone has got to tell rainbow management to let the girls know that 1500 short time is ok. Hahahaha!
So many decent lookers yet no barfines. Agogo girlsat2k plus are just bad value![/QUOTE]You can blame it on the japs! They've done nothing to better the mongering scene.
Clearly for the contrast.
Back on subject. Some memories from a few years back. My one mongering experience in Thailand. I know. Why did I bring candy to a candy store. A little coaxing and all turned out well.
[QUOTE=SimonHeSays; 1306542]Clearly for the contrast.
Back on subject. Some memories from a few years back. My one mongering experience in Thailand. I know. Why did I bring candy to a candy store. A little coaxing and all turned out well.[/QUOTE]Right fucking awesome brother! I have done the same (although with an Asian American) and it was quite hot. That said, I'd love to hear any details you'd like to give, here or via PM, on how you brought it up, where you found the girl, etc. Brings back a lot of found memories for me.
The reason to take a white girl is that white goes with any color. White shirt and darker pants. Seems it goes well with the ladies also. Can you provide us with more info?
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1306463]Some BaccArA observations.
1. They really need to widen the entrance, the employees should demand it just for their safety in case of fire.
4. Rainbow 4 has nothing to match the top 3 pretty girlsatBacCarRa. Nothing and I mean nothing![/QUOTE]Yeah, I was there on a Saturday night and it was so damned packed, I went upstairs to get a seat, and it was crowded as hell up there too, I don't suffer from claustraphobia, but boy did I feel uncomfortable being in a relatively small area with so many people. Now I only go there during the week when I can get away from the GF LOL.
How much do the top 3 hot ones in Baccarra go for? I'm sure they're not giving much of a hansum man discount hehe
Just found out August 2nd is a Buddha Lent day. Eden will be closed for both 2nd and 3rd. Are most of the bars and massage parlors closed on big holidays? Most of the FLs go back home? How about the Nana parking lot on the night of the 2nd? What are my choices? I will only be there from afternoon of the 2nd to early afternoon of the 3rd. Please share your experience mongering on a big holiday at Bangkok or would you normally avoid a big holiday? Is the traffic in and out of the airport going to be much worse?
Came in Bangkok on Fri night, and spent two nights at Nana. Few nice places worth visiting. Spankys is one. Got a nice girl, Donut. Also there are many Russian girls at nearby hotel.
Recently I spent 7 days in Bangkok. I had read about Dr BJ Salon. I visited and took a Nurse for Bt 700. It was great. Service was great. Two days later I took a consultant for Bt 1000. She was even better and gave a lot more than BJ. Next time I had another consultant and she was the best. Real GF attitude and she enjoys it too. Her kiss was the best I have ever experienced. Since then I visited three her three more times. It was pure joy. I am anxious to go back to Bangkok just to visit this girl.
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48;1304588]Fast Eddie 49[/QUOTE]Happy Birthday!
[QUOTE=Mukri;1307122]Recently I spent 7 days in Bangkok. I had read about Dr BJ Salon. I visited and took a Nurse for Bt 700. It was great. Service was great. Two days later I took a consultant for Bt 1000. She was even better and gave a lot more than BJ. Next time I had another consultant and she was the best. Real GF attitude and she enjoys it too. Her kiss was the best I have ever experienced. Since then I visited three her three more times. It was pure joy. I am anxious to go back to Bangkok just to visit this girl.[/QUOTE]How much "more". Never went with the consultants, wasn't sure if it was worth it.
[QUOTE=Mukri;1307122]Recently I spent 7 days in Bangkok. I had read about Dr BJ Salon. I visited and took a Nurse for Bt 700. It was great. Service was great. Two days later I took a consultant for Bt 1000. She was even better and gave a lot more than BJ. Next time I had another consultant and she was the best. Real GF attitude and she enjoys it too. Her kiss was the best I have ever experienced. Since then I visited three her three more times. It was pure joy. I am anxious to go back to Bangkok just to visit this girl.[/QUOTE]Would have been nice to know about the reference of the girls as the trick is all there. On who is deliverying the service.
Otherwise how can we learn?
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1306367]Two pops in 90 min if the gal is skilled. I am in my mid-40s.[/QUOTE]Man one pop and I just want to get out of there asap.
If it was different girls in different encounters in succession then no problem.
[QUOTE=Bowerboy; 1307280]Man one pop and I just want to get out of there asap.
If it was different girls in different encounters in succession then no problem.[/QUOTE]Actually I ALWAYS go in thinking "yeah I will stay for 2 pops" and NEVER have. As soon as I have shot I NEED to get out as quickly as possible. Even if they lined up another girl and brought her in immediately afterwards then that would work for me. But same girl (or girls) same place no way. Each to their own I guess
[QUOTE=Harold444;1306740]I myself just can't justify paying over $100 for 10 minutes of fun.[/QUOTE]It takes some training to make it last longer than 10 minutes. And your 10 minutes probably includes entering the establishment, negotiating, undressing, showering, having your fun, dressing, paying and leaving. ;)
[QUOTE=Bowerboy; 1307280]Man one pop and I just want to get out of there asap.
If it was different girls in different encounters in succession then no problem.[/QUOTE]I would agree with this, I tend to have trouble spewing my load with condom, let alone trying to spew twice in 90 minutes. If it were a real hot girl and I hadn't busted in a few days, then maybe, but the 2nd would have to be bareback sex.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1307279]Would have been nice to know about the reference of the girls as the trick is all there. On who is deliverying the service.
Otherwise how can we learn?[/QUOTE]To me it looks like Mukri registered here for the purpose of promoting (t)his place.
After doing a google search on: dr bj's salon review
I found that it is co owned by the owner of Annies and that many girls are from there. Quite an intersting read, especially the one from the thaichatter site.
[QUOTE=Tiger 888; 1307468]To me it looks like Mukri registered here for the purpose of promoting (t) his place.
After doing a google search on: dr BJ's salon review.
I found that it is co owned by the owner of Annies and that many girls are from there. Quite an intersting read, especially the one from the thaichatter site.[/QUOTE]Dr BJ, just as Aye of Annie's, are fully registered here and participate to the forum. DrBJ often reports on his visits to Soi Cowboy or Nana or wherever. He doesn't need cheap ways to promote his business that way. It is of public news that Aye is involved in DrBJ saloon, some of its girls come from Annie's. Nevertheless you will not see promotion of the saloon in the Annie's thread in here. That shows a rather fair use if ISG, IMHO.
what a load (pun intended) of unadulterated hogwash one now has to wade through to get some decent leads on what's happening in bangkok. it is a sad reflection on the contributors to this forum that all the majority of them can come up (again pun intended) is a boorish bragging of "i can do two pops in two minutes if the girl is skillful" nonsense. i am all for free speech and to each their own but have we really got to the stage at isg that this drivel is the best we can do.
[QUOTE=BobMm;1306816]Just found out August 2nd is a Buddha Lent day. Eden will be closed for both 2nd and 3rd. Are most of the bars and massage parlors closed on big holidays? Most of the FLs go back home? How about the Nana parking lot on the night of the 2nd? What are my choices? I will only be there from afternoon of the 2nd to early afternoon of the 3rd. Please share your experience mongering on a big holiday at Bangkok or would you normally avoid a big holiday? Is the traffic in and out of the airport going to be much worse?[/QUOTE]Gosh! Is this correct? Wow, it so happened I will be there on those days! So that will be the most difficult time of stay in Bangkok!
[QUOTE=Mukri;1307122]Recently I spent 7 days in Bangkok. I had read about Dr BJ Salon. I visited and took a Nurse for Bt 700. It was great. Service was great. Two days later I took a consultant for Bt 1000. She was even better and gave a lot more than BJ. Next time I had another consultant and she was the best. Real GF attitude and she enjoys it too. Her kiss was the best I have ever experienced. Since then I visited three her three more times. It was pure joy. I am anxious to go back to Bangkok just to visit this girl.[/QUOTE]Oh oh, yellow fever already? Settle down Mukri, take a deep breath, visit MAngo, Eden, Snow white before you fall in love
[QUOTE=Harold444;1307325]Thats half the battle for the owners! The 2nd half is they better deliver on service, THE hard PART![/QUOTE]No no, you got it all wrong Harold. The [b]hard part[/b] Is provided by the client. The girls have to be all soft.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1307543]No no, you got it all wrong Harold. The [b]hard part[/b] Is provided by the client. The girls have to be all soft.[/QUOTE]You can never tell with Harold, maybe he wants the girls with a hard part, you never know. He has different perceptions than most of us, this you can tell from his post history.
Hello guys,
I am planning to visit Bangkok and Phuket and want to ask has it been raining a lot?
What is level of activity these days. Are places open and running, tourists around or is it usually slow in the rain? Especially in Phuket. Don't want to land up being the only poor soul walking around drenched looking for some action.
[quote=waylon;1307502]what a load (pun intended) of unadulterated hogwash one now has to wade through to get some decent leads on what's happening in bangkok. it is a sad reflection on the contributors to this forum that all the majority of them can come up (again pun intended) is a boorish bragging of "i can do two pops in two minutes if the girl is skillful" nonsense. i am all for free speech and to each their own but have we really got to the stage at isg that this drivel is the best we can do.[/quote]waylon, as an old hand in bangkok, you should set an example and start writing some posts of your personal experiences rather than complain.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1307549]Waylon, as an old hand in Bangkok, you should set an example and start writing some posts of your personal experiences rather than complain.[/QUOTE]The only venue of interest recently has been Tarntip on Soi 7/1 (check postings for more info ). I don't frequent go gos or the baths, I visit oilies regularly but there is little to add that is not already documented so not too sure what to post that would be helpful.
[quote=waylon;1307502]what a load (pun intended) of unadulterated hogwash one now has to wade through to get some decent leads on what's happening in bangkok. it is a sad reflection on the contributors to this forum that all the majority of them can come up (again pun intended) is a boorish bragging of "i can do two pops in two minutes if the girl is skillful" nonsense. i am all for free speech and to each their own but have we really got to the stage at isg that this drivel is the best we can do.[/quote]after a 120 minute session i can shoot two feet into my own mouth.
but, more to the point, perhaps, if a guy can't get it on with a stunner in bkk now, it's time to catch a plane with borat back to kazakstan.
the pro was right about how it's a buyer's market this low season.
Hello BJ here,
It has been a while since I posted about any of my exploits, mainly due to the fact that the Salon has been getting more popular and added to this, the increase in staff to cope with the rise in customers has made spare time a rare entity. I'm not really even taking days off at the moment. Another shop in the Dr BJ's chain is due to open mid-August, so putting it all together means no sleep. After the new shop opening, we are looking for a following one in the next 3 months, if all goes to plan. All these will be in Bangkok and they will not be a Salon. A further salon is due in Pattaya next, all the legal and local preparation work has been done, and we are just looking for relevant partners and correct location now, so all the hard work is behind us.
I managed to take 3 days off over the week and of course I had to play, and why not?
Night 1, Friday 20 July.
Went to the beer garden with a friend of mine and his girlfriend, didn't really intend on picking up a lady from there, the intention was simply to have a couple of drinks then move on. We were debating whether to go to SC or NP and eventually decided on NP. First port was Pretty Lady. Some nice looking ladies dancing and a few were really trying to get the customers attention (a result of being low season, no doubt). I resisted all the looks and furtive dancing as long as I could but one lady was even giving it the eye when she stopped dancing. About 5 minutes after she had jumped back on the dance floor my resolve finally dissolved and I waved her over to join me. Cannot remember her name but her number is 27. She is fairly tall with average sized breasts nice eyes and an even nicer smile.
She showed an admirable amount of enthusiasm as we sat drinking and talking (her English is quite good). She was not shy about touching the parts some ladies do not reach! She agreed to come to Rainbow 4 for a few more drinks before we headed off. This was my first visit to any of the Rainbows for quite a while and the array of ladies was very impressive, with about 10 which I would put in the stunners bracket in my humble opinion. Will have to visit this place again in the near future. After about an hour it was time to head off, no grumbling or complaining from #27 about time.
After the obligatory shower she showed equal amounts of enthusiasm as she had done before and was not shy about kissing or any roaming hands / groping. I started flicking her bean and she really responded to the stimulation. She done a kind of reverse BBBJ and pretty soon swung her leg over to adopt a 69 position, which I really don't mind. She had a well-trimmed vagina which IMO is mandatory, landing strip is fine but untendered Bush is not acceptable. The BJ was very good and refreshingly she was happy to carry on for a good 15-20 mins with semi DT right up to the point she gagged. She asked for "condom now" without being too pushy or insistent. She started off with CG and varied between vigorous bouncing and slow deep grinding and throughout she was not averse to my thumb on her little man in the boat. She asked "what you want now", meaning which position so I went for mish. Even then she was very active and thrust back accordingly, doggy was next (my personal favourite) and she allowed me to mould her legs into which ever position I wanted, got to say she has a very nice arse. Next I put her on her back and folded her legs up as far as I could and smashed her for about 15 mins. Decided to finish off with MP as I felt a bit tired myself. The whole session lasted about 2 hours (thanks to my friend Cappra) and she was exhausted by the time I finished.
We talked for about half an hour after the shower. As I walked her out to get a taxi she said she lost count of the number of times she had cum during the whole session, good for you I thought. Over all appraisal very happy with her approach and enthusiasm, much better than some of my experiences with other go-go girls and would certainly take her again.
Day 2 of my escapades will be posted tomorrow.
[QUOTE=Dr BJ;1308372]Day 2 of my escapades will be posted tomorrow.[/QUOTE]Include pricing please.
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1308388]Include pricing please.[/QUOTE]2, 000 + 600 BF, can't remember exactly how much the drinks came to, probably had 5 drinks each.
Alright guys, it's 1 AM I'm in my condo drunk and about to go find me a hot prostitute around lower sukhumvit... Will bring condom and report back.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1308524]Alright guys, it's 1 AM I'm in my condo drunk and about to go find me a hot prostitute around lower sukhumvit. Will bring condom and report back.[/QUOTE]Thnaks for letting us know, we were really so anxious to know.
[QUOTE=Dreams;1308571]Thnaks for letting us know, we were really so anxious to know.[/QUOTE]Yeah wow that's a scenario that doesn't happen too often in Bangkok.
Can't wait to find out what happened.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1308524]Alright guys, it's 1 AM I'm in my condo drunk and about to go find me a hot prostitute around lower sukhumvit. Will bring condom and report back.[/QUOTE]Bring your dick along. Do not forget that!
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1308372]Hello BJ here,
It has been a while since I posted about any of my exploits, mainly due to the fact that the Salon has been getting more popular and added to this, the increase in staff to cope with the rise in customers has made spare time a rare entity. I'm not really even taking days off at the moment. Another shop in the Dr BJ's chain is due to open mid-August, so putting it all together means no sleep. After the new shop opening, we are looking for a following one in the next 3 months, if all goes to plan. All these will be in Bangkok and they will not be a Salon. A further salon is due in Pattaya next, all the legal and local preparation work has been done, and we are just looking for relevant partners and correct location now, so all the hard work is behind us.
Day 2 of my escapades will be posted tomorrow.[/QUOTE]Always nice to read your report for the other side of the counter. I trust those experiences help in running your business.
As we are on this subject, I have seen you have planned to open also a Nuru massage / bar. Is this the (Japanese?) type of B2B massage with gel? Curious to know as looks interesting. Where is it going to be located?
[QUOTE=Dreams;1308571]Thnaks for letting us know, we were really so anxious to know.[/QUOTE]Actually I end up falling asleep. Sorry for the disappointment fellas
[QUOTE=Harold444;1308416]This dr BJ just gave rainbow 4 its 2nd GlOWinG review. 2nd guy in recent memory who spotted 10 stunners in one sitting.[/QUOTE]He must be into older girls. It's a shame to see the talent in that bar take a nosedive!
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1308372].
She showed an admirable amount of enthusiasm as we sat drinking and talking (her English is quite good). She was not shy about touching the parts some ladies do not reach! She agreed to come to Rainbow 4 for a few more drinks before we headed off. This was my first visit to any of the Rainbows for quite a while and the array of ladies was very impressive, with about 10 which I would put in the stunners bracket in my humble opinion. Will have to visit this place again in the near future. After about an hour it was time to head off, no grumbling or complaining from #27 about time.
After the obligatory shower she showed equal amounts of enthusiasm as she had done before and was not shy about kissing or any roaming hands / groping. I started flicking her bean and she really responded to the stimulation. She done a kind of reverse BBBJ and pretty soon swung her leg over to adopt a 69 position, which I really don't mind. She had a well-trimmed vagina which IMO is mandatory, landing strip is fine but untendered Bush is not acceptable. The BJ was very good and refreshingly she was happy to carry on for a good 15-20 mins with semi DT right up to the point she gagged. .[/QUOTE]Nice report. I have to agree that in recent months Rainbow 4 has some lookers, but getting a girl that will perform enthusiastically is a different story, so must choose carefully. I find certain other bars have less stunners but better success rates.
You do have some strange expressions! The 2nd sentence for example. Touching what "parts"? Discussion subjects or your dick?"kind of reverse BBBJ"? I guess you mean upside-down.
"semi DT". Deep Throat is not that common and requires a special talent to suppress the gag reflex, unless the dick is very short (4 inches would not be DT). I would not expect any girl to keep up DT for 15 mins though. So either it was DT for part of the time, or probably not really DT. I think a girl needs to be able to take a least 5 inches (minimum) to qualify as DT, although if they can take 5 inches then they should be able to take 6 to 7 inches too. I am not aware if there are girls who can swallow as much as 8 inches, for obvious reasons. Does "semi DT" really exist? Either she has learnt to supress the gag reflex or she can't.
Dear All,
I will be visitng Bangkok on the 2nd of August till the 6th. Please advise if those entertaiment clubs and massage parlours will be still on their regular businesses? How about the girls, will they work during this so called Buddha day?
Cheers,
MD
[QUOTE=Macho Dik; 1309014]Dear All,
I will be visitng Bangkok on the 2nd of August till the 6th. Please advise if those entertaiment clubs and massage parlours will be still on their regular businesses? How about the girls, will they work during this so called Buddha day?
Cheers,
MD[/QUOTE]Usually all of the establishments are closed for two days during the beginning of Buddhist Lent.
[QUOTE=BobMm;1306816]Just found out August 2nd is a Buddha Lent day. Eden will be closed for both 2nd and 3rd. Are most of the bars and massage parlors closed on big holidays? Most of the FLs go back home? How about the Nana parking lot on the night of the 2nd? What are my choices? I will only be there from afternoon of the 2nd to early afternoon of the 3rd. Please share your experience mongering on a big holiday at Bangkok or would you normally avoid a big holiday? Is the traffic in and out of the airport going to be much worse?[/QUOTE]I'm sure that there will be places open, as long as have staff willing to work. Annies is famous for never (well hardly ever) closing.
Most smart guys collect some phone numbers of various good girls in order to have fun on closed days anyway.
It doesn't matter to me if bars are closed as alcohol is not an important ingredient of having a great time, quite the opposite for me. Can't drink anything much in the bars at the moment, except for water, due to my diet anyway, as don't want much alcohol nor much sugar.
Just mixed up my own Caiparinha cocktail, using Stevia (a plant) based sweetener (from supermarket) which looked similar to raw sugar, and came out just as good. My low sugar diet is helping to drop off several kilos, and that's even without any exercise programs. It's far more effective than a low fat diet, which doesn't work at all without sugar and carbs reduction. Will add some more exercise soon, to accelerate the losses. Sex is so much better once a few kilos go, for those who don't know this already. I'm also eating unpolished whole grain rice, as normal Thai rice is too high on the Glycemic index. Naturally I don't eat french fries, and very little potato.
Anyone have any idea where to find some indian girls? Have a craving
[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1309161]Anyone have any idea where to find some indian girls? Have a craving[/QUOTE]I found a TON of them in New Delhi and Bangalore.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1309161]Anyone have any idea where to find some indian girls? Have a craving[/QUOTE]Last month I saw several hanging inside and around the Grace Hotel.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1308676]Actually I end up falling asleep. Sorry for the disappointment fellas[/QUOTE]After you barebacked her. HAHA
The best place to find beautiful Indian girls is Sona Gachi in Kolkata, only a three hours flight from Bangkok. You'll never regret it. It's no use to try to get one in Bangkok or any other city outside India.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1309161]Anyone have any idea where to find some indian girls? Have a craving[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=David 2;1309186]I found a TON of them in New Delhi and Bangalore.[/QUOTE]That's a very intelligent answeR! WOW
A couple of prominent genital warts is a deal breaker no matter what your country of origin.
[QUOTE=David 2;1309186]I found a TON of them in New Delhi and Bangalore.[/QUOTE]Not sure what current status is of the place, but when I was last in BKK the one place I saw the prostitute League of Nations was in CM2 under the Novotel. Is that place still going?
Most of the non-Thai girls seemed to be from the former Soviet countries, but there were others mixed in, one that I remember who seemed to be Ethiopian or else Somalian.
[QUOTE=Dash Riprock;1309372]A couple of prominent genital warts is a deal breaker no matter what your country of origin.[/QUOTE]They let you check the girl's genitals in Rainbow now? ;.)
[QUOTE=Manfield04;1309202]The best place to find beautiful Indian girls is Sona Gachi in Kolkata, only a three hours flight from Bangkok. You'll never regret it. It's no use to try to get one in Bangkok or any other city outside India.[/QUOTE]I couldn't handle a red light district in India.
[QUOTE=Wendella;1309458]They let you check the girl's genitals in Rainbow now? ;.)[/QUOTE]No, they check yours!
[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1309481]I couldn't handle a red light district in India.[/QUOTE]I've never been in India, but I've met quite a few very attractive women of Indian origin outside of India. Which makes me wonder if I can find such attractive women in some of India's red light districts?
India is also the origin of the Kama Sutra book, which is widely considered to be the ancient Bible of sex and sexual pleasures.
I'm not sure what handling a red light district in India exactly involves. But if you get too many offers from the pretty or not so pretty ladies there, then all you need to do is just say 'no' and perhaps be quick on your feet to walk away, before some bold lady grabs your cock and makes you change your mind about her.
Hey guys!
I need your advice on Thai girls. Let me first give you a brief outline of my trip:
I intend to come to Thailand on the 5th of August for 5 nights. After having read a lot of posts in this forum, I decided to stay 1 night in BKK und 4 nights in Pattaya since Pattaya is cheaper and has a greater choice of girls. It isn't the first trip to Thailand for me, however, this time I travel on my own and the only goal of this trip is to spend some great time with a couple of gorgeous Thai girls. Just for your info: I'm in my mid-twenties.
Now, having said that I'm struggling with the following:
Actually I'm not as such interested in taking a girl at 2-3a. M. For LT to my hotel. Instead, I would like to spend a whole evening or even day with her.
I'm looking for a GFE, so ideally I take her out for dinner, then we go I. E. Shopping / to the movie and finally we land in my hotel room (of course.).
The last time I was in BKK, it happened to me quite often that I saw couples (thai + farang) wandering around the city who seemed to do this.
The kind of girl I'm looking for is young (say max. 23 years) , REALLY pretty and most importantly NOT a professional.
What I mean by "not a professional" is that she hasn't been working in this business for a long time, maybe she could be even a little shy.
So how shall I proceed? Where do you advice me to go in order to find such a girl? Bargirls? Freelancers?
I guess escort is too expensive and moreover violates the professionalism-criterion. My budget is around 3000Baht / day (max.)
Thanks for your advice in advance.
[QUOTE=Dan7373;1309514]I've never been in India, but I've met quite a few very attractive women of Indian origin outside of India. Which makes me wonder if I can find such attractive women in some of India's red light districts?[/QUOTE]Go see. There is an India thread you know. But there is a reason that you see the Indian guys mongering in Thailand. It won't be as you are hoping.
[QUOTE=Dan7373; 1309514]I've never been in India, but I've met quite a few very attractive women of Indian origin outside of India. Which makes me wonder if I can find such attractive women in some of India's red light districts?
India is also the origin of the Kama Sutra book, which is widely considered to be the ancient Bible of sex and sexual pleasures.
I'm not sure what handling a red light district in India exactly involves. But if you get too many offers from the pretty or not so pretty ladies there, then all you need to do is just say 'no' and perhaps be quick on your feet to walk away, before some bold lady grabs your cock and makes you change your mind about her.[/QUOTE]
I'm a fan of Indian women already. And I've visited north India before (it was awful).
I mean I couldn't handle the filth, creepiness, and general lack of humanity in an Indian red light district. A bit of a turn off.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1309662]I'm a fan of Indian women already. And I've visited north India before (it was awful).
I mean I couldn't handle the filth, creepiness, and general lack of humanity in an Indian red light district. A bit of a turn off.[/QUOTE]I have spent over 3 years as an expat in Delhi and flown to various Indian cities but never visited a brothel. Every city has a designated brothel but the fear of getting arrested by the cops who target foreigners I was told and the lack of hygiene kept me at bay. Various charming, extremely good looking woman / housewives etc were arranged by handlers for around Rs 15, 000 for 3 hours who visited the hotel and the deed was done. This is the safest way to go. Indians find BKK a very cheap and safe option to monger with low airfares and short flight times.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1309507]No, they check yours![/QUOTE]So wait, you're saying the reason it got slow for that girl is because all the Japanese guys had warts? ;.)
I'm trying to find the thread on the forum where they talk about sex in India, is this the right place?
OK I see by reading down a bit that it is indeed the right place.
Now I wonder where they talk about Bangkok.
Must be in one of the India threads.
[QUOTE=FreeLancester; 1309585]Hey guys!
I need your advice on Thai girls. Let me first give you a brief outline of my trip:
I intend to come to Thailand on the 5th of August for 5 nights. After having read a lot of posts in this forum, I decided to stay 1 night in BKK und 4 nights in Pattaya since Pattaya is cheaper and has a greater choice of girls. It isn't the first trip to Thailand for me, however, this time I travel on my own and the only goal of this trip is to spend some great time with a couple of gorgeous Thai girls. Just for your info: I'm in my mid-twenties.
Now, having said that I'm struggling with the following:
Actually I'm not as such interested in taking a girl at 2-3am For LT to my hotel. Instead, I would like to spend a whole evening or even day with her.
I'm looking for a GFE, so ideally I take her out for dinner, then we go I. E. Shopping / to the movie and finally we land in my hotel room (of course.).
The last time I was in BKK, it happened to me quite often that I saw couples (thai + farang) wandering around the city who seemed to do this.
The kind of girl I'm looking for is young (say max. 23 years) , REALLY pretty and most importantly NOT a professional.
What I mean by "not a professional" is that she hasn't been working in this business for a long time, maybe she could be even a little shy.
So how shall I proceed? Where do you advice me to go in order to find such a girl? Bargirls? Freelancers?
I guess escort is too expensive and moreover violates the professionalism-criterion. My budget is around 3000Baht / day (max.)
Thanks for your advice in advance.[/QUOTE]Go to any bar in the late afternoon or early evening and barfine your sweetheart for LT. It isn't any more difficult than that. And if you ask them, they are all just in the business, too shy and practically virgins.
Follow my advice: stick to professionals. They know what the game is about and will happily play along with you. Much more bang for your buck.
If you treat her well the first night out and she is your fancy, immediately book her for the next day / night. Let her pick up some fresh clothes in her room and meet her at the bar's opening and pay her barfine. You will get her fresh and unspoilt (well at least not yet spoiled) that day. :)
Oh and BTW, the "couples" you see wandering around Bangkok, may just be that: "real couples", not hired companions.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1309519]If anything will kill soi cowboy its those mother f. In indian watch sellers-they just ruin the atmosphere. No smile nothin, just a lot of bad odour. LOL.[/QUOTE]NOt to mention those Indian peanut sellers. WTF, I see those knuckleheads everywhere I'm eating. I'm sitting there having a meal, they come up to me and just stand there. There product line is awful too. If they had chocolate covered raisins, I might bite LOL
[quote=tony hoeprano;1309764]not to mention those indian peanut sellers. wtf, i see those knuckleheads everywhere i'm eating. i'm sitting there having a meal, they come up to me and just stand there. there product line is awful too. if they had chocolate covered raisins, i might bite lol[/quote]talking of indian girls, they are definitely worth spending you money on, but having lived there and having a continuous business association there, i can give my 2 cents to the forum here. indian brothels are definitely not worth visting, you get ripped off and most importantly being a foreigner, you can become easy target of police, who are definitely in the game to squeeze as much money as possible from the hookers. please remember that prostitution is illegal in india and it is strictly enforced on foreigners. please keep away from the red light districts. most red light districts are in the worst districts of the city and are very unmaintained.
if you want to monger you have to go though the usual pimps and 5 star hotel routes. most sessions will cost you 300 usd upwards + the hotel expenses. but you get a bevy of beauties to choose from. my own experience has been very good, after getting bored of the usual asians (i meant the chinese looking ones) the indian girls are definitely a welcome change.
because of the high costs there and the general lack of upkeep and hygiene in many indian brothels, you will find so many indians tourists in bangkok and prices to and fro from bangkok are rock bottom.
the value of indian rupee being even lower than bahts, most choose to get the lowest valued hookers in thailand. which is similar to thai men with their limited budget. (well not all thai men can afford the hi end thai only establishments)
about the peanut sellers, please do not associate them with indians, they are from the lowest of classes in india, and they have been following a business route set up by a few before them and they come here to earn and go back. seriously they are the worst of the lot. atleast the cheap tourists (not only from india, but from all countries) have enough to pay their mongering activities. these peanut sellers are just here to survive.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1309764]NOt to mention those Indian peanut sellers. WTF, I see those knuckleheads everywhere I'm eating. I'm sitting there having a meal, they come up to me and just stand there. There product line is awful too. If they had chocolate covered raisins, I might bite LOL[/QUOTE]Tony you are a cheapo capable of eating only on the streets, so you deserve all the pests and beggars of the society. Stop complaining, go to a air conditioned restaurant.
[quote=asslover945;1309808]about the peanut sellers, please do not associate them with indians, [b]they are from the lowest of classes in india[/b], and they have been following a business route set up by a few before them and [b]they come here to earn and go back[/b]. [b]seriously they are the worst of the lot[/b]. atleast the cheap tourists (not only from india, but from all countries) have enough to pay their mongering activities. [b]these peanut sellers are just here to survive[/b].[/quote]so let me try to understand:
the guys are ultra-poor, they have 2 choices in front on them: stay in india and starve or go to thailand and survive. if i was in their shoes, i'd sell peanuts as well.
i have not lived in india but it looks like you have something against the poor classes, whatever the reason, i think they are as human as you and me and deserve to be treated normally. i am sure they would have loved to have been born white and with parents that had money for a good education, a roof and a warm meal every-day.
just my 2 rupees
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1309759]Oh and BTW, the "couples" you see wandering around Bangkok, may just be that: "real couples", not hired companions.[/QUOTE]Or maybe LT couples, for a week or so.
[QUOTE=AssLover945;1309811]Tony you are a cheapo capable of eating only on the streets, so you deserve all the pests and beggars of the society. Stop complaining, go to a air conditioned restaurant.[/QUOTE]Haha. Good one there Asslove. This time it was after watching the Dark Knight Rises and my GF took me to a Thai restauarant close to Rama 9. I was the only non-thai there and lo and behold one of these peanut sellers approaches us with his crappy assortment of nuts. If they are indeed the lowest of low, its pretty nice of these Thai restaurants to allow them to solicit. I couldn't imagine sitting at Applebees in the US and in comes an illegal Guatemalan selling crappy walnuts or whatever it may be.
Anyways. I've been eating a lot more at the traditional thai restaurants and its much much better than most of that crappy street food. Love the style where everyone shares the food in the middle but I have to control myself not to bogart all the food LOL.
I still only eat with either chopsticks or a fork. I think Thais must be ambidextrous to do that fork and spoon routine hehe.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1309764]NOt to mention those Indian peanut sellers. WTF, I see those knuckleheads everywhere I'm eating. I'm sitting there having a meal, they come up to me and just stand there. There product line is awful too. If they had chocolate covered raisins, I might bite LOL[/QUOTE]Who are you to judge people? You need to thank your lucky stars that you atleast maybe have a roof over your head and money to buy food.
There are many people trying to earn a living all over the world. As long as they do not rob me or hurt me it is ok.
You sound like a prejuduced faggot!
I agree Indian brothels are to be completely avoided. But to pay $300 for ST is a being ripped off. Average rate is about $100 (5, 000 RS). But then again for 300 bucks you do get a better class (hopefully).
[QUOTE=Sammon;1309929]Who are you to judge people? You need to thank your lucky stars that you atleast maybe have a roof over your head and money to buy food.[/QUOTE]You got to be kidding. Touts are annoying. I don't care about their race or origin. Their actions are intrusive. I'm walking down a street in certain parts of BKK, Pattaya, or Hong Kong minding my own business and some tout spots me out of the crowd simply because I am white (who is the racist?) and wants to sell me a shitty cheap suit or a fake watch for the umpteenth time. Yeah its always the same guys. The fact that I politely decline and walked away from them 20x before makes no difference. After a while, "fuck off asshole," is all I have to say to them and then they stop bothering me... until next time.
By the way, I do feel sorry for them. They have a lousy job, are payed next to nothing, and must live in a shit hole. The real villlians here are their employers that promise them a lot to get them to come over and then exploit them to their advantage. I never do business in this type of store. These foreign touts should be deported and this practice outlawed.
Definition: In British English, a tout is any person who solicits business or employment in a persistent and annoying manner (generally equivalent to a solicitor or barker in American English, or a spruiker in Australian English).
An example would be a person who frequents heavily touristed areas and presents himself as a tour guide (particularly towards those who do not speak the local language) but operates on behalf of local bars, restaurants, stores, or hotels, being paid to direct tourists towards certain establishments.
[QUOTE=Sammon; 1309929]Who are you to judge people? You need to thank your lucky stars that you atleast maybe have a roof over your head and money to buy food.
There are many people trying to earn a living all over the world. As long as they do not rob me or hurt me it is ok.
You sound like a prejuduced faggot![/QUOTE]Hey no need to be a dickhole sir! I like Indian peanut peddlers just like the next guy! In fact, I'll go to soi cowboy and pay the bar fine for one of those guys just so they can experience the sweet nectar of Thai poon!
[QUOTE=FreeLancester; 1309585]Hey guys!
Actually I'm not as such interested in taking a girl at 2-3am For LT to my hotel. Instead, I would like to spend a whole evening or even day with her.
The kind of girl I'm looking for is young (say max. 23 years) , REALLY pretty and most importantly NOT a professional.[/QUOTE]1. Get over the "not a professional." If they do, they are.
2. Accept that older = better skilled.
Others may disagree, but given your desire for an extended relationship and / or a sense of "the hunt," you make a choice. If you want to feel like you're seducing a girl, go to a freelancer bar like Biergarten and give it a try. If that's not important, go to an agency and trade "the hunt" for beauty.
[QUOTE=FreeLancester; 1309585]Now, having said that I'm struggling with the following:
Actually I'm not as such interested in taking a girl at 2-3am For LT to my hotel. Instead, I would like to spend a whole evening or even day with her.
I'm looking for a GFE, so ideally I take her out for dinner, then we go I. E. Shopping / to the movie and finally we land in my hotel room (of course.).
The last time I was in BKK, it happened to me quite often that I saw couples (thai + farang) wandering around the city who seemed to do this.
The kind of girl I'm looking for is young (say max. 23 years) , REALLY pretty and most importantly NOT a professional.
What I mean by "not a professional" is that she hasn't been working in this business for a long time, maybe she could be even a little shy.[/QUOTE]What your asking for is an extremely pretty girl who will F U crazy but does not know enough to clock-charge and work you like the other girls that have been doing this for a longer time.
I call the above the "mongers definition" of a non-pro.
I agree some girls might not want the self perception of being a ho as it conceals her mileage and hides them from the social ranking stigma. I think less so in LOS as the ho population seems higher than other places.
Just don't forget. A ho, is a ho, is a ho, and the whole concept of pro vs non-pro can be self delusional at best. Just as the girl might want to conceal her being a ho, the monger hopes to use that facade with hopes of finding an inexperienced business girl who does not know any better with respect to what to charge him.
Yes, that non-pro facade exists but just don't think she may have any less mileage than the other girls having more guts that don't care.
I have come across so many guys that tout they only spend time with non-pros. Fact is, this is either a money issue or the monger does not want to admit to himself his earnings go to the hard core hos of the world. You being only 23yo, my money is on the first.
[QUOTE=Sammon; 1309929]Who are you to judge people? You need to thank your lucky stars that you atleast maybe have a roof over your head and money to buy food.
There are many people trying to earn a living all over the world. As long as they do not rob me or hurt me it is ok.
You sound like a prejuduced faggot![/QUOTE]He is a bigoted racist to the core. He has targeted Indians with his snide remarks more than once.
And he is a cheap ass broke dude who can afford to eat only on the streets where naturally you have all the beggars, old homeless grannies selling tissues & Chewing gum, or kids selling flowers and of course his favourite Indian peanut seller. But he somehow seems to forget all the others irritants like the cockroaches, or the filth right next to him or the granny and the kid, But being the racist that he is, he just remembers the Indian peanut seller.
[QUOTE=AssLover945; 1310081]He is a bigoted racist to the core. He has targeted Indians with his snide remarks more than once.
And he is a cheap ass broke dude who can afford to eat only on the streets where naturally you have all the beggars, old homeless grannies selling tissues & Chewing gum, or kids selling flowers and of course his favourite Indian peanut seller. But he somehow seems to forget all the others irritants like the cockroaches, or the filth right next to him or the granny and the kid, But being the racist that he is, he just remembers the Indian peanut seller.[/QUOTE]True but let us ignore and move on, not that I am supporting his misdemanours but let us not waste time.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1309519]If anything will kill soi cowboy its those ... watch sellers-they just ruin the atmosphere.[/QUOTE]
I don't think anyone offered me a watch at Soi Cowboy, more than once in the last year. If there was a watch selling stand I would certainly have walked straight past without a glance.
On a serious note, if anything will kill off Cowboy, its progressive change. We now have far too many Coyote bars. We now have a ladyboy bar, and some other bars with one or two of them (LBs) , where we used to think Cowboy was a safe place from LBs. What next? Cowboy is somewhat in decline. Hopefully all "the Arab's" bars will fail to make money and most of the pathetic Coyote girls will go. Most of them are just not pretty or skilled enough to be worth watching. If you want Coyote, its best to go somewhere else.
Cowboy's downfall could come from failing to be sufficiently different from Nana.
The "sex" police should come along. Clean out all the child beggars. Make sure elephants don't come. Clean out the LBs. Clean out the flower sellers, and various other annoying urchins.
The most we can really do is refuse to give money to Children, elephants, peanut sellers, flower sellers, and stay out of Coyote bars, which are strictly for tourists I guess, or businessmen pretending to have a clean image.
What would happen if Nana Plaza closed? Where would all those masses of ladyboys go? Hopefully back to Phat Phong or to Soi Ladyboy.
[QUOTE=AssLover945; 1310081]He is a bigoted racist to the core. He has targeted Indians with his snide remarks more than once.
And he is a cheap ass broke dude who can afford to eat only on the streets where naturally you have all the beggars, old homeless grannies selling tissues & Chewing gum, or kids selling flowers and of course his favourite Indian peanut seller. But he somehow seems to forget all the others irritants like the cockroaches, or the filth right next to him or the granny and the kid, But being the racist that he is, he just remembers the Indian peanut seller.[/QUOTE]It was you selling those peanuts!
[QUOTE=Wendella; 1309753]Now I wonder where they talk about Bangkok.
Must be in one of the India threads.[/QUOTE]Have to agree that its sad so little interesting mongering experiences are occuring in Bangkok and therefore this has become the Miscellaneous Irrelevancy thread.
[QUOTE=Ehunter;1310076]What your asking for is an extremely pretty girl who will F U crazy but does not know enough to clock-charge and work you like the other girls that have been doing this for a longer time.I call the above the "mongers definition" of a non-pro.I have come across so many guys that tout they only spend time with non-pros. Fact is, this is either a money issue or the monger does not want to admit to himself his earnings go to the hard core hos of the world. You being only 23yo, my money is on the first.[/QUOTE]At the best a "non-pro" is a part-timer, such as a smart and money hungry office girl, waitress in a regular bar / restaurant, shop attendant. All girls having working time allowing to do the profession. Or, having a night out of fun and trying to cash some money in. Not so different from the DH in Singapore and Hong Kong having their "parties" in OT (SIN) or a park (HK) where they gather and more than happy to be picked up by a guy (tafeling foreigner or expat) for a meal and a couple of hours of sex and some cash. Technically they might not be "pro" (ie not maing that as primary activity for a living) , but it is just a technicality. Still you pay them cash for their time with you. It was they do out of those hours that might define how "pro" they are (or not)
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1310086]What would happen if Nana Plaza closed? Where would all those masses of ladyboys go? Hopefully back to Phat Phong or to Soi Ladyboy.[/QUOTE]Indeed a good question! Why don't they have a designated area for all the LB's? That way us heterosexuals would not have to walk the gauntlet? Those men who have created this LB market can go to them, leaving us real men to do what it is we love doing with beautiful females.
This works for me:
First of all I never bother with non-pros. Semi-pros or pros know what this is about, the whole process is much more straighforward. I do not bother with DIA or Thailovelinks or other dating sites (although there are lots of pros and semi-pros on those sites also) , and I do not bother with trying to pick up shop attendants or girls in malls. The couples you have observed are in my opinion quite likely a farang and a pro.
1. When in Thailand I always go for a massage once a day. This can be a nice way to see if the chemistry between you and the girl is OK. It's a good test drive if you will. I am not talking about oilies and soapies here, but the "regular" massage parlors that you will find anywhere. When I was in BKK last I met a beautiful masseuse this way, gorgeous body, decent english, nice personality, playful. And we spent a couple of days together. Same thing when I was in Phuket last: I had a 300 baht oil massage mid day, connected with the gal, agreed to pick her up at 8pm that same evening, paid a small "fine" to her boss, and was so happy with her services through the night and the morning that we spent the next three days together having wild sex, going to the beach, having dinner etc.
2. In the evenings I like to play pool for a couple of hours. Earlier this year in BKK I played pool with a couple of girls and had a lot of fun, so asked one of them to go with me. She was quite pretty and we had great chemistry. Net result. Spent two relaxing days together with lots of sex and fun.
These were all complete GFE experiences. The pros know how to do this, whereas if you get a non-pro who expects a long term relationship things aren't so clear cut.
[QUOTE=FreeLancester; 1309585]Hey guys!
I need your advice on Thai girls. Let me first give you a brief outline of my trip:
I intend to come to Thailand on the 5th of August for 5 nights. After having read a lot of posts in this forum, I decided to stay 1 night in BKK und 4 nights in Pattaya since Pattaya is cheaper and has a greater choice of girls. It isn't the first trip to Thailand for me, however, this time I travel on my own and the only goal of this trip is to spend some great time with a couple of gorgeous Thai girls. Just for your info: I'm in my mid-twenties.
Now, having said that I'm struggling with the following:
Actually I'm not as such interested in taking a girl at 2-3am For LT to my hotel. Instead, I would like to spend a whole evening or even day with her.
I'm looking for a GFE, so ideally I take her out for dinner, then we go I. E. Shopping / to the movie and finally we land in my hotel room (of course.).
The last time I was in BKK, it happened to me quite often that I saw couples (thai + farang) wandering around the city who seemed to do this.
The kind of girl I'm looking for is young (say max. 23 years) , REALLY pretty and most importantly NOT a professional.
What I mean by "not a professional" is that she hasn't been working in this business for a long time, maybe she could be even a little shy.
So how shall I proceed? Where do you advice me to go in order to find such a girl? Bargirls? Freelancers?
I guess escort is too expensive and moreover violates the professionalism-criterion. My budget is around 3000Baht / day (max.)
Thanks for your advice in advance.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FreeLancester; 1309585]Hey guys!
I need your advice on Thai girls. Let me first give you a brief outline of my trip:
I intend to come to Thailand on the 5th of August for 5 nights. After having read a lot of posts in this forum, I decided to stay 1 night in BKK und 4 nights in Pattaya since Pattaya is cheaper and has a greater choice of girls. It isn't the first trip to Thailand for me, however, this time I travel on my own and the only goal of this trip is to spend some great time with a couple of gorgeous Thai girls. Just for your info: I'm in my mid-twenties.
Now, having said that I'm struggling with the following:
Actually I'm not as such interested in taking a girl at 2-3am For LT to my hotel. Instead, I would like to spend a whole evening or even day with her.
I'm looking for a GFE, so ideally I take her out for dinner, then we go I. E. Shopping / to the movie and finally we land in my hotel room (of course.).
The last time I was in BKK, it happened to me quite often that I saw couples (thai + farang) wandering around the city who seemed to do this.
The kind of girl I'm looking for is young (say max. 23 years) , REALLY pretty and most importantly NOT a professional.
What I mean by "not a professional" is that she hasn't been working in this business for a long time, maybe she could be even a little shy.
So how shall I proceed? Where do you advice me to go in order to find such a girl? Bargirls? Freelancers?
I guess escort is too expensive and moreover violates the professionalism-criterion. My budget is around 3000Baht / day (max.)
Thanks for your advice in advance.[/QUOTE]I can't help but was wondering along the same lines. For example, when going to China, I found a couple of websites that specialised in "travel companions" who would show visitors around the city. Now many of them were legit, professional tour guides (both men and women) , but others were young pretty women who would provide hints in the text that extra-curricular activities could be possible.
I searched but couldn't find any similar thing in Bangkok. Would be great if anybody knows of such a website or service!
[QUOTE=Mrdurden; 1310261]I can't help but was wondering along the same lines. For example, when going to China, I found a couple of websites that specialised in "travel companions" who would show visitors around the city. Now many of them were legit, professional tour guides (both men and women) , but others were young pretty women who would provide hints in the text that extra-curricular activities could be possible.
I searched but couldn't find any similar thing in Bangkok. Would be great if anybody knows of such a website or service![/QUOTE]Yeah, fine, but how much were they demanding to be a guide and a sex buddy? Anyone sourced through a website is already more expensive. Go imagine one who acts as a guide (spending daytime with you) and also provide sexual pleasures.
Unless the tours are around your bed in the hotel room.
I hadn't been to Bangkok in almost 9 months and the difference between the high season and low season was quite interesting.
First the FL scene. There seem to be less of them both in the Nana parking lot or on Sukhumvit around soi 5 etc. Similalrly, I found far fewer of them near Grace hotel as well and the whole Russian contingent was kind of missing. I looked into BG7 and while there were many of them there, did not find anyone particularly appealing. Any way, while I was about to give up, suddenly I ran into this striking light skinned, curvy girl and I decided to make the move. She had a playful face, great body, very well made D cup tits and best of all spoke great English and was a lot of fun through the night. Unfortunately it seems that she is being sponsored and hence would not give me any contact info and I guess I was just lucky that she decided to take a stroll =)
In terms of the gogo bars, I spent most of my time at Soi Cowboy and I must say that most of the bars were quite empty and the line ups were pretty pathetic. The one exception was Sharks. Great lineup, especially if you like the light skinned, northern chian mai type of looks. There were at least a handful of them that I would have loved to get to know better in the biblical sense =) Any way, I bought some LDs for one of them that I fell for and BFed her for the night. I guess I didn't pick up on the clues but she turned out to be a star fish. Everything was a struggle to get her to do. Finally I managed to get one shot off and kicked her out. Too many rules, not into DFK, minimal BBBJ, forget about CIM and constant whine of "are you done yet". Oh well, but she was one sexy thing to look at!
Finally on the oily MP scene. I have always partaken at least one lady on each of my previous trips from either Tulip or Mango, just for that special PSE experience. This time I visited Mango, Snowwhite and Cherry. The lineup I found most interesting was at Cherry. They seemed younger, fresher and better looking. However, my sessions at both Mango and Cherry, while very satisfying and had the usual very GFE elements, somehow did not compare to some of the legendary ladies of the past who practically mauled you into an unforgettable PSE session.
Just my $0. 02 from the recent trip. Happy mongering.
[QUOTE=Mrdurden; 1310261]I can't help but was wondering along the same lines. For example, when going to China, I found a couple of websites that specialised in "travel companions" who would show visitors around the city. Now many of them were legit, professional tour guides (both men and women) , but others were young pretty women who would provide hints in the text that extra-curricular activities could be possible.
I searched but couldn't find any similar thing in Bangkok. Would be great if anybody knows of such a website or service![/QUOTE]Go to Craigslist and post an Ad as to what you want. If you want cheaper, that is the way to go.
Also, check the Ads that girls post for what you are requesting.
[QUOTE=FreeLancester; 1309585]Hey guys!
I need your advice on Thai girls. Let me first give you a brief outline of my trip:
I intend to come to Thailand on the 5th of August for 5 nights. After having read a lot of posts in this forum, I decided to stay 1 night in BKK und 4 nights in Pattaya since Pattaya is cheaper and has a greater choice of girls. It isn't the first trip to Thailand for me, however, this time I travel on my own and the only goal of this trip is to spend some great time with a couple of gorgeous Thai girls. Just for your info: I'm in my mid-twenties.
Now, having said that I'm struggling with the following:
Actually I'm not as such interested in taking a girl at 2-3am For LT to my hotel. Instead, I would like to spend a whole evening or even day with her.
I'm looking for a GFE, so ideally I take her out for dinner, then we go I. E. Shopping / to the movie and finally we land in my hotel room (of course.).
The last time I was in BKK, it happened to me quite often that I saw couples (thai + farang) wandering around the city who seemed to do this.
The kind of girl I'm looking for is young (say max. 23 years) , REALLY pretty and most importantly NOT a professional.
What I mean by "not a professional" is that she hasn't been working in this business for a long time, maybe she could be even a little shy.
So how shall I proceed? Where do you advice me to go in order to find such a girl? Bargirls? Freelancers?
I guess escort is too expensive and moreover violates the professionalism-criterion. My budget is around 3000Baht / day (max.)
Thanks for your advice in advance.[/QUOTE]Let me get this straight, you want a couple of young gorgeous, really pretty, shy, non professional, presumably English speaking Thai girls to spend days and nights with you during your visit.
Usually when this happens you wake up but best of luck.
Jeez, I've been in Indonesia for about three weeks, partying and having fun, I go online today to post a report in Jakarta, deciding to see if anything is happening in Bangkok.
Guess What? Nothing the same thing, No reports, just the same bunch of ass clowns with the same rhetoric.
Man am I happy I have choices, and am able to use them.
Indo girls are hot, although not as sophisticated as Thai girls. They are warmer and more accommodating. IMHO!
Too bad this contract will be ending soon.
I know of an absolutely stunning very young girl (20) looking for a boyfriend (Farang I guess) aged about 30 to 35. Problem is her English is not that great yet. Other problem is she is working in an MP but would not want the boyfriend to know, clearly she is ashamed of her work. He would obviously get it for free. Not sure how she would explain her working hours and workplace. I guess she would have to claim she worked in legit real massage.
I am not really sure that she would make the best GF, but definitely very nice to fuck. Obviously I am far too old to be a candidate BF, by a mere 15-20 years. I think to get a BF, she needs to accept that he should know where she works. Customers do not make the best choice of BFs though, as a large percentage would be unreliable bull-shit artists.
My message is just that not only are there heaps of normal Thai girls wanting to have a Farang BF, but also pros looking for a good real boyfriend too. I think there are too many girls in Thailand compared to males of the non-gay non-LB variety.
Personally I don't see any distinction between a GF that has worked in sex services and one who has not, as long as she does not display it public and acts normally (demurely) and speaks nicely. To me, work is work, and a means of getting money. You rate a girlfriend by how she acts and how she performs. If this is good, it matters little how many guys she has previously fucked, as long as she has no diseases, and has suitable levels of sexual desire. As long as her attitude is she has sex with you because she wants to, not to get money. I have experienced (in the past) a pro who was willing to spend time with me and fuck for free (meaning I wasn't supporting her). Unfortunately she was not able to act completely normal in public, being rather un-demure for a Thai (most of her family were rather "Thaleung" for my liking). Some pros can have normal attitudes too, especially ex-pros.
Interestingly, the young nephew of my Thai GF sometimes puts makeup on his face to attempt to look beautiful to Thai girls. Seems to be quite common for hetero Thai boys to use makeup, wear excessive ear-rings, etc. Doesn't make them look good to me, but do Thai girls like pretty boys?
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1310439]Interestingly, the young nephew of my Thai GF sometimes puts makeup on his face to attempt to look beautiful to Thai girls. Seems to be quite common for hetero Thai boys to use makeup, wear excessive ear-rings, etc. Doesn't make them look good to me, but do Thai girls like pretty boys?[/QUOTE]As far as the girl needing a BF, don't have anything to add, I will comment on the cut quote as I have a little knowledge of this.
My current G / F never has worked as a pro, double degreed, Chaing Mai, University and King Chulalongkorn, has shared her past life before me, with stories of her ex husband and past bf.
She told me the last bf used to use all kinds of face creams and did everything to make himself look like a movie star, said he took more time in front of the mirror than she did. Last month I went to dinner with one of her younger co-workers, this girl had just purchased a new car. I asked her what the attraction to the car was, meaning why she chose that model. She told me flat out, the salesman had caught her eye in while she was shopping and she was hoping the guy would ask her out.
She's an attorney, so she's bringing something to the table.
That being said, these girls are like girls anywhere.
[QUOTE=Mrdurden; 1310261]I can't help but was wondering along the same lines. For example, when going to China, I found a couple of websites that specialised in "travel companions" who would show visitors around the city. Now many of them were legit, professional tour guides (both men and women) , but others were young pretty women who would provide hints in the text that extra-curricular activities could be possible.
I searched but couldn't find any similar thing in Bangkok. Would be great if anybody knows of such a website or service![/QUOTE]Type in travelgirls to google and look for the web site. Its a web site that doesn't recommend escort girls but if you check out the thai girls, you might be able to find a GFE experience girl willing to show you around.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1310439]Interestingly, the young nephew of my Thai GF sometimes puts makeup on his face to attempt to look beautiful to Thai girls. Seems to be quite common for hetero Thai boys to use makeup, wear excessive ear-rings, etc. Doesn't make them look good to me, but do Thai girls like pretty boys?[/QUOTE]Maybe he is just at the first steps of some future "changes". Not uncommon they start early and as the thai culture is pretty much easy on this and not obsessed, it is all quite tolerated. Maybe he is also just a bit confused about his sexual role in life or not ready to a full outing in explaing why he does that. No drama.
[quote=nicfrenchy; 1309853]so let me try to understand:
the guys are ultra-poor, they have 2 choices in front on them: stay in india and starve or go to thailand and survive. if i was in their shoes, i'd sell peanuts as well.
i have not lived in india but it looks like you have something against the poor classes, whatever the reason, i think they are as human as you and me and deserve to be treated normally. i am sure they would have loved to have been born white and with parents that had money for a good education, a roof and a warm meal every-day.
just my 2 rupees[/quote]a little bit of humanity in this thread does not harm.
[QUOTE=Monte3; 1310474]Last month I went to dinner with one of her younger co-workers, this girl had just purchased a new car. I asked her what the attraction to the car was, meaning why she chose that model. She told me flat out, the salesman had caught her eye in while she was shopping and she was hoping the guy would ask her out.
She's an attorney, so she's bringing something to the table.
That being said, these girls are like girls anywhere.[/QUOTE]So we know that somebody will reply YES to a well known question "would you buy a pre-owned car from this guy?"
Syzyg, how would a girl who works in a MP qualify as a non-pro?
PM me, I am exactly what she is looking for ;)
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1310439]I know of an absolutely stunning very young girl (20) looking for a boyfriend (Farang I guess) aged about 30 to 35. Problem is her English is not that great yet. Other problem is she is working in an MP but would not want the boyfriend to know, clearly she is ashamed of her work. He would obviously get it for free. Not sure how she would explain her working hours and workplace. I guess she would have to claim she worked in legit real massage.
I am not really sure that she would make the best GF, but definitely very nice to fuck. Obviously I am far too old to be a candidate BF, by a mere 15-20 years. I think to get a BF, she needs to accept that he should know where she works. Customers do not make the best choice of BFs though, as a large percentage would be unreliable bull-shit artists.
My message is just that not only are there heaps of normal Thai girls wanting to have a Farang BF, but also pros looking for a good real boyfriend too. I think there are too many girls in Thailand compared to males of the non-gay non-LB variety[/QUOTE]I am 30-35, and had a hard time finding a nice thai girl to date.
Many of them make shitty girlfriends (want to play around and flirt with lots of guys) , want money, or just aren't that pleasant and kind to keep around you all the time.
I dated a few bargirls but it was never much fun. They either wanted to be a hi-so spoiled princess or were too rough and bargirl-ish for me to keep around my place.
Gee GB, I haven't read your posts but I'm way older than you and didn't have any problem finding really nice Thai girls to date. Have you been to Biergarten off Sukhumvit? There's a lot of part-timers there who would love to have a steady boyfriend. Lots of MP girls, too. Good luck. You can always try PI, VN or Cambo, too.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1310589]I am 30-35, and had a hard time finding a nice thai girl to date.
Many of them make shitty girlfriends (want to play around and flirt with lots of guys) , want money, or just aren't that pleasant and kind to keep around you all the time.
I dated a few bargirls but it was never much fun. They either wanted to be a hi-so spoiled princess or were too rough and bargirl-ish for me to keep around my place.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kirra Dude;1310486]Type in travelgirls to google and look for the web site. Its a web site that doesn't recommend escort girls but if you check out the thai girls, you might be able to find a GFE experience girl willing to show you around.[/QUOTE]Gave it a try, but seems fishy to me. Within 2 minutes of registering, I had 15 female visitors to my profile, despite not having a picture or any information in my profile aside from age and location.
And within 5 minutes. 3 of these girls had already sent me messages. But to read them, one needs to "upgrade to Premium" service.
When finding a nice looking girl, if you want to contact them, it's again "upgrade to Premium".
I do appreciate the help though, thanks anyways!
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1310086].The "sex" police should come along. Clean out all the child beggars. Make sure elephants don't come. Clean out the LBs. Clean out the flower sellers, and various other annoying .[/QUOTE]Are there still elephants on Bangkok streets?
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1310439]I know of an absolutely stunning very young girl (20) looking for a boyfriend (Farang I guess) aged about 30 to 35. Problem is her English is not that great yet. Other problem is she is working in an MP but would not want the boyfriend to know, clearly she is ashamed of her work. He would obviously get it for free. Not sure how she would explain her working hours and workplace. I guess she would have to claim she worked in legit real massage.[/QUOTE]Just out of curiosity what is her expectation of a boyfriend? When I was in Thailand I found that there was a large number of women who wanted a foreign boyfriend, but most wanted a foreigner because of money and not because we tend to treat women better than Thai men. Essentially I found that a lot of the Thai chicks were looking for a sponsorship deal, which IMO is not a girlfriend. There were exceptions, in other words women looking for real relationships and not benefactors, but they seemed to be most common with older ladies (30+) who had real jobs or younger ones who had jobs and would under no circumstances work in the sex trade.
Area appears rundown since I was last here. 2 years back, just has that look about it. Couple weeks back I overnighted at the 'Boom Boom' hotel. Got in mid-day, had lunch then intended to go to Annies Soapy. Did not make it, exhausted and tired, settled for a few cold ones at the bar in soi 4, Nana hotel. The beer went down so well, just stayed and chatted to the girls and a few friendly mongers. Felt rejuvinated as the afternoon wore into evening.
One of the girls suggested I try a steak from Nana. It was delicious, shared it with her. Recommended. Watched the freelances at work in the parking lot and snapped a few photos. Midnight my ass was still stuck to the barstool, chinwagging away I finally decided to head down Sukhumvit for a stroll with the intention of getteing my final girl of a month long tour of Thailand and Philippines. Shitloads of African chicks about with pimps on tow. Chatted to several girls then moved on, I wanted a Thai girl. Found what I was looking for towards Asoke, girl with apparent good attitude and the most glorius hair down to her waste. Payed 40b back to Nana by taxi and had a great session to sign off the summer slam.
Unfortunately by now I was a little worse for wear and did not snap any photos of her. Struggled to blow my load dispite her super effort eventually I got off with a COF and additional pearl necklace. I love playing with their hair during the session, playfully pulling and covering my face with it during Cowgirl. 4am, I let her go with a 100b tip on top of her 1000b ST rate. Very pleased and exhausted. The rude awakening occured at 8am and the flight back to Europe.
A month away. Wow! Time flew by.
[QUOTE=Joe Looking;1310701]Just out of curiosity what is her expectation of a boyfriend? When I was in Thailand I found that there was a large number of women who wanted a foreign boyfriend, but most wanted a foreigner because of money and not because we tend to treat women better than Thai men. Essentially I found that a lot of the Thai chicks were looking for a sponsorship deal, which IMO is not a girlfriend. There were exceptions, in other words women looking for real relationships and not benefactors, but they seemed to be most common with older ladies (30+) who had real jobs or younger ones who had jobs and would under no circumstances work in the sex trade.[/QUOTE]It looks like you have answered your own question. As per my experience, chicks who go into the sex trade do it for money. So they will look for a foreign boyfriend with money to "take care" of them. Chicks who make a living outside of the sex trade are looking for companionship in a man and could care less about money.
Was walking along sukhumvit at around 2 AM, close to Terminal 21 and saw a really cute girl sitting down at one of those mobile beer bars.. I normally don't like these places because they bug the hell out of me grabbing my arm and then sometimes I've had them try to get creative with my bill..
Had a beer then paid for the BF of 300, but then the other girl said to tip the other lady 100 baht, I said I'm not doing that, but gave her an extra 80 so 380 baht BF, geez these girls are good at nickle and dimin' ya every chance they can get.. The girl's name was "Lie" i thought good name for a thai working girl lol.. she was very cute,24, had nice legs,no stretch marks or any other noticeable scaring. Negotiated 1.5 for LT with the promise of an extra 500 baht for outstanding service..
Took her back to my place, had a little drink, then started making out with great DFK, removed the clothing, then she said she doesn't like giving blowies. wtf?! I thought this girl was in the wrong business, but whatever, with a little gentle coaxing she proceeded to suck me off, but was not very skilled at all. Put on condom, then proceeded to pound missionary and she just laid there... like a damned starfish, had no expression on her face.. no moans, no nuttin! I guess she wasn't into my stunningly hansum looks!! lol
After a few minutes, I had to take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url], excused myself, then removed condom and tinkled. I felt a slight fishy smell on the condom, but it wasn't overwhelming.
Put on a new condom, then turned her over and started poking her doggy style, pulled off the condom to shoot on her back but missed and sprayed all over my bed sheets haha.. She said she wanted to go early with no 2nd boom boom and even suggested that i compensate her for ST at 1K.. so all in all, despite the starfish experience, it wasn't that bad.. btw-I think i timed my cialis too late for it to have any effect, as I woke up with a raging hard on..
[QUOTE=Monopoly;1310664]Are there still elephants on Bangkok streets?[/QUOTE]You'll find many elephants walking along khao san road.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1310589]I am 30-35, and had a hard time finding a nice thai girl to date.
Many of them make shitty girlfriends (want to play around and flirt with lots of guys) , want money, or just aren't that pleasant and kind to keep around you all the time.
I dated a few bargirls but it was never much fun. They either wanted to be a hi-so spoiled princess or were too rough and bargirl-ish for me to keep around my place.[/QUOTE]You are 100% right on with this.
Many of these girls are on 10-15 dating sites.
They never really seem happy with just one dude.
I have concluded that they are just to have fun with. Not for GF.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1310881]You are 100% right on with this.Many of these girls are on 10-15 dating sites.They never really seem happy with just one dude.I have concluded that they are just to have fun with. Not for GF.[/QUOTE]And, honestly, aren't we doing and acting the same?
I spent a week in Bangkok. All the necessary information I found on ISG, but it took me some time to collect it. So here is my 'Bangkok in brief' report:
The Sukhumvit area is a good location for a hotel. I used the following webpage in order to find a GF hotel:
[url]http://www.bargirlfriendlyhotels.com/bangkok-girl-friendly-hotels/[/url]
A good map is for orientation with all the hotspots:
[url]http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.00044836624e9b986acc9&ll=13.729943[/url]
100. 567389&spn=0. 014549, 0.018775&z=16.
The discotheque Climax in the Ambassador Hotel on Soi 11 is fun and had two good live bands playing. I met a freelancer there and hung out with her for two nights.
Mik's Soapy MP helped me also a lot:
[url]http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.0004488989cf3827c091b&ll=13.748223[/url]
100. 558891&spn=0. 111885, 0.149689&z=13.
Besides visting Annies and Bangkok Cozy I liked La Belle. Probably I paid more than the locals but I liked the stylish ambience. If I had more time I would have explored the upper class MPs more. It was interesting to
Visit a MP, where the locals with some money play.
Thanks to everybody for the information I collected via ISG!
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1310881]You are 100% right on with this.
Many of these girls are on 10-15 dating sites.
They never really seem happy with just one dude.
I have concluded that they are just to have fun with. Not for GF.[/QUOTE]Whenever they friend me on facebook they have about 400 friends, half of whom are white guys.
Pass.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1310653]There ARE not heaps of normal girls wanting farang bfs.
What else do I need to clarify?
![/QUOTE]I would agree with this 100. Once ya leave Sukhumvit area, the amount of Farangs-Thai couples you see is exponentially reduced.
BTW- is On Nut area ground zero for creepy looking falangs? I saw a falang at Tesco Lotus hanging out with a Ladyboy who looked like a Taxi Driver with a wig on LOL
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1310822].You'll find many elephants walking along khao san road.[/QUOTE]Thanks,
I guess they don't allow them on Soi 4 or Soi Cowboy or Sukhumvit anymore?
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1310898]And, honestly, aren't we doing and acting the same?[/QUOTE]Oh yes, definitely. Most of us worse.
But I do think if a loyal guy wants a steady Thai GF, it seems to be difficult to find a good one. Or one that is not in major debt.
i've not been to any go-go bars yet but i might do that. walking past dr. bj's on soi 7/1 i saw a lovely, young lass out front with several other more average looking women. it looked to me like she could work a go-go bar if she wanted too. i did not stop though.
at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s, soi 8, i got great service from a lovely young spinner. i'll reveal the name later because i'm not ready to lose my place in line just yet. the bj price is now 800 bt. for a 200 bt tip i had a condensed pse lasting about 30 minutes, just right for a quickie. this woman too could work go-go imo. she was gorgeous.
i had a very good experience with one of the ladies from a pool bar on soi 4. lot's of these women in the bars are considered old because they are in their 30's. on is 37 going on 24 and up for everything but the 3rd hole. she was very charming and funny, very responsive and a gfe. i will repeat. i read much here on the forum about a lack of attractive providers, poor service, etc. of course beauty is in the eye of the beholder but i say that there are many beautiful women available in bangkok whether you are on the streets or in the bars. just open your eyes and choose.
i chose an exotic fl from nana parking lot one night and had great svc with a great attitude for 1, 000 bt short time. for those who like to read about india in the bangkok thread, she is a pretty thai / indian mix with a head of big curly hair. she's not 19 but i'the repeat with her too. i passed up some other lovelies there at nana parking on my way to other places.
and that's my mongering news in bangkok. i'm also posting my hotel experiences in that thread and a short note in tulip massage.
c4t
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1311005]Oh yes, definitely. Most of us worse.But I do think if a loyal guy wants a steady Thai GF, it seems to be difficult to find a good one. Or one that is not in major debt.[/QUOTE]Correct, but we go into the old and "endless" debate: does it make sense to pick up a GF from lower Sukh sidewalks or bars? One in a million will meet the gem, but all the others. Oh well. At the best she makes you believe what you want to believe (and that can be fine sometimes, no objections)
Was Cowboy closed last night or did they just finish up early because of the Buddhist holiday?
Anyone know a good place to have a real 3some experience?
I mean where the girls are actually fucking each other and not just faking it a little.
And no not Eden. I mean attractive girls.
[QUOTE=Rambis Youth;1311183]Was Cowboy closed last night or did they just finish up early because of the Buddhist holiday?[/QUOTE]BANGKOK. 1 August 2012 (NNT). The Ministry of Public Health is banning the sale of alcohol on the upcoming Asarnha Bucha and Buddhist Lent Days, which fall on August 2 and 3, respectively.
Following the Cabinet's resolution to designate Buddhist Lent Day each year as the 'No Alcohol Day', an announcement was issued by the Prime Minister's Office in 2009, stating that the sale of alcohol would be prohibited on four major religious holidays, namely Makha Bucha Day, Visakha Bucha Day, Asarnha Bucha Day and Buddhist Lent Day.
[url]http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/574158-public-health-ministry-bans-alcohol-sale-on-august-2-and-3/[/url]
[QUOTE=Joe Looking;1310701]Just out of curiosity what is her expectation of a boyfriend? When I was in Thailand I found that there was a large number of women who wanted a foreign boyfriend, but most wanted a foreigner because of money and not because we tend to treat women better than Thai men. Essentially I found that a lot of the Thai chicks were looking for a sponsorship deal, which IMO is not a girlfriend. There were exceptions, in other words women looking for real relationships and not benefactors, but they seemed to be most common with older ladies (30+) who had real jobs or younger ones who had jobs and would under no circumstances work in the sex trade.[/QUOTE]There are a few gems in the rough out there, but don't kid yourself, any girl in the Sukhumvit scene or even I'd say 80% up on the dating sites are either looking for a sponsor, a sugar daddy, or a move up for the family and fortunes. Even when you do meet the gem in the rough, what are the chances of her supporting herself full time and not expecting at some point to be taken care of or have sin sod paid? For some guys, they don't seem to mind this, and to be fair, there are girls in the trade or on the make who actually will be faithful and nice and all the rest to a guy who takes care of her and goes to bat for her. But I find the longer I live here, the less I am enamored of that, it just isn't worth the hassle and I am not interested in playing dad. Better to have endless fun without headaches or stress, and if a decent one comes across who is worth pursuing, well, give chase. But you have to ask yourself just how much YOU are willing to settle for that "good" Thai girl. I recently met a woman on a dating site here, I'm pretty darn sure she hasn't been out with too many farang if any, she holds a good full time job, has enough money, and is incredibly polite and decent when we go out. However her English is close to nonexistent, and while my Thai is certainly good enough to converse, there just isn't anything there that makes it worth pursuing for something in terms of bf / gf because the lack of communication envisioned by me will lead to nowhere.
[QUOTE=Oldian;1311369]There are a few gems in the rough out there, but don't kid yourself, any girl in the Sukhumvit scene or even I'd say 80% up on the dating sites are either looking for a sponsor, a sugar daddy, or a move up for the family and fortunes. Even when you do meet the gem in the rough, what are the chances of her supporting herself full time and not expecting at some point to be taken care of or have sin sod paid? For some guys, they don't seem to mind this, and to be fair, there are girls in the trade or on the make who actually will be faithful and nice and all the rest to a guy who takes care of her and goes to bat for her. But I find the longer I live here, the less I am enamored of that, it just isn't worth the hassle and I am not interested in playing dad. Better to have endless fun without headaches or stress, and if a decent one comes across who is worth pursuing, well, give chase. But you have to ask yourself just how much YOU are willing to settle for that "good" Thai girl. I recently met a woman on a dating site here, I'm pretty darn sure she hasn't been out with too many farang if any, she holds a good full time job, has enough money, and is incredibly polite and decent when we go out. However her English is close to nonexistent, and while my Thai is certainly good enough to converse, there just isn't anything there that makes it worth pursuing for something in terms of bf / gf because the lack of communication envisioned by me will lead to nowhere.[/QUOTE]"Thailand Fever: A Road Map for Thai-Western Relationships" is a good book on the realities behind Thai-Western marriages. The cover looks a bit silly but the content is strong. I've never been in a long-term relationship with a Thai woman, but the amazon reviews give it a high rating also. The girl's family plays a huge role if the relationship goes far, and if you're meeting the parents, it means that the relationship is already very far in the girl's eyes.
[url]http://www.amazon.co.uk/Thailand-Fever-Thai-Western-Relationships-Thai-English/dp/1887521488/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1344070053&sr=8-1[/url]
[quote=crazy4thai; 1311156]walking past dr. bj's on soi 7/1 i saw a lovely, young lass out front with several other more average looking women. it looked to me like she could work a go-go bar if she wanted too. i did not stop though.
at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s, soi 8, i got great service from a lovely young spinner. i'll reveal the name later because i'm not ready to lose my place in line just yet. the bj price is now 800 bt. for a 200 bt tip i had a condensed pse lasting about 30 minutes, just right for a quickie. this woman too could work go-go imo. she was gorgeous.[/quote]i visited dr bj's a couple of times on a recent visit and found the quality of service much higher than i recall getting from [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s a couple of years ago. i don't think there is a real difference in quality between the "consultants" and the "nurses." you walk in, pick from a lineup, and head up to a closet-sized room with a reclining chair and a sink where your junk gets a quick bath. you then sit back and enjoy a bareback deep-throat job. somewhat clinical, and since all you see of the girl is the top of her bobbing head, looks aren't as important as technique (which i found to be quite good). shoot your load, clean up with another trip to the sink, and pay on your way out. no monkey business, no upsells, no bait / switch.
[QUOTE=Oldian;1311369]There are a few gems in the rough out there, but don't kid yourself, any girl in the Sukhumvit scene or even I'd say 80% up on the dating sites are either looking for a sponsor, a sugar daddy, or a move up for the family and fortunes.[/QUOTE]I would say closer to 90% girls hanging out sukhumvit area are looking for money, not love. Normal Thai girls just don't want to be associated with the sukhumvut scene. In fact, my gf has never heard of Nana plaza LOL.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1311709]. In fact, my gf has never heard of Nana plaza LOL.[/QUOTE]Good for you or she might question why you know so much about NEP LOL
Hi folks,
Just a quick question. If I have taken a girl out of one of the BJ bars for 2 days, and paid a 1000 barfine each day, should I expect any surprise extra costs?
Just curious what the going rate is for full days, and also if the number of pops is a factor for full day / long time.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1311248]Anyone know a good place to have a real 3some experience?
I mean where the girls are actually fucking each other and not just faking it a little.
And no not Eden. I mean attractive girls.[/QUOTE]Not sure about Bangkok, but Pattaya has Devil's Den which might do that.
[quote=etaoin2003;1311559]i visited dr bj's a couple of times on a recent visit and found the quality of service much higher (snip) no monkey business, no upsells, no bait / switch.[/quote]i've not tried the dr. bj's yet but just to be clear i'm the one who "upsold" at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s. i offered 200 bt tip up front and she was naked and all mine in the blink of an eye. i saw and enjoyed way more than her mouth and the top of her head.
i am amused walking past the doc's place though as the ladies call out just like the massage places "blow job sir?" "bj" "full service" - you gotta love this place.
[QUOTE=Cwomd; 1311712]Hi folks,
Just a quick question. If I have taken a girl out of one of the BJ bars for 2 days, and paid a 1000 barfine each day, should I expect any surprise extra costs?
Just curious what the going rate is for full days, and also if the number of pops is a factor for full day / long time.
Thanks![/QUOTE]1, 000 is for the BJ Place, as far as the cost of the girl, usually goes about 3k / day unless you negotiate a special multiple day discout with her.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1311248]Anyone know a good place to have a real 3some experience?
I mean where the girls are actually fucking each other and not just faking it a little.
And no not Eden. I mean attractive girls.[/QUOTE]Not sure precisely what you define as "fucking" for 2 girls since they don't have dicks.
This is a tough one really. You don't want a Lesbian as she will not enjoy fucking you. There are a small percentage of Bi-sexual girls around.
I use either Suzi Wong or Sheba as they have girls experienced in doing the lesbian acts on stage. This means they won't be too shy in a room with you. It is hard to get a completely honest answer about which girls are real bi-sexuals though. SW used to have one girl with spikey hair called Nu who seemed to be bi or even lesbian, but she wasn't feminine enough looking to interest me (looked slightly butch).
Bow at SW (very feminine but small tits) seemed to lust after certain other girls like Deuan, so maybe try her and ask which girls she wants to have sex with. I believe there are also two real sisters at SW for that sister fantasy but its unlikely they would want to molest each other.
I have had some super 3-somes from Sheba too, but not quite feeling that the girls were really lusting for each other. For me its more about having a tag team, or two mouths are better than one, or molesting one while fucking the other.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1311762]Not sure precisely what you define as "fucking" for 2 girls since they don't have dicks.
This is a tough one really. You don't want a Lesbian as she will not enjoy fucking you. There are a small percentage of Bi-sexual girls around.
I use either Suzi Wong or Sheba as they have girls experienced in doing the lesbian acts on stage. This means they won't be too shy in a room with you. It is hard to get a completely honest answer about which girls are real bi-sexuals though. SW used to have one girl with spikey hair called Nu who seemed to be bi or even lesbian, but she wasn't feminine enough looking to interest me (looked slightly butch).
Bow at SW (very feminine but small tits) seemed to lust after certain other girls like Deuan, so maybe try her and ask which girls she wants to have sex with. I believe there are also two real sisters at SW for that sister fantasy but its unlikely they would want to molest each other.
I have had some super 3-somes from Sheba too, but not quite feeling that the girls were really lusting for each other. For me its more about having a tag team, or two mouths are better than one, or molesting one while fucking the other.[/QUOTE]I've had a few 3somes but it was always more like tag teaming and taking turns or kissing one while fucking the other. Which is more of a 2 on 1 than a real 3some.
Though can be fun.
I don't think those Wong or Sheba girls would give the real experience.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1311762]Not sure precisely what you define as "fucking" for 2 girls since they don't have dicks.
I use either Suzi Wong or Sheba as they have girls experienced in doing the lesbian acts on stage. This means they won't be too shy in a room with you. It is hard to get a completely honest answer about which girls are real bi-sexuals though. SW used to have one girl with spikey hair called Nu who seemed to be bi or even lesbian, but she wasn't feminine enough looking to interest me (looked slightly butch).
Bow at SW (very feminine but small tits) seemed to lust after certain other girls like Deuan, so maybe try her and ask which girls she wants to have sex with. I believe there are also two real sisters at SW for that sister fantasy but its unlikely they would want to molest each other.
I have had some super 3-somes from Sheba too, but not quite feeling that the girls were really lusting for each other. For me its more about having a tag team, or two mouths are better than one, or molesting one while fucking the other.[/QUOTE]On my last trip my thai gf expressed the desire to see what cowboy was all about and I thought I hit the jackpot. We were there almost every night for a week except a two night break in between when we headed out for a beach getaway. We took out almost every night from bacarra where we were like permanent fixtures. We found out that a lot of the girls actually don't endorse couples, but were able to find like two or three that were ok with atleast sharing a bed with us. Atleast two I would say were very comfortable but none of them actually participated in the act. PM me for names and numbers if interested.
Conclusion is that its very tough to find really BI women in the gogo bars in BKK.
Cheers,
JSS
[QUOTE=JerseyShoreSun; 1311788]We found out that a lot of the girls actually don't endorse couples, but were able to find like two or three that were ok with atleast sharing a bed with us. Atleast two I would say were very comfortable but none of them actually participated in the act.
JSS[/QUOTE]Is this correct, you bar fined the girls out of the club and they would sleep with you and your GF but did not have sex with either of you?
[QUOTE=Noddy;1310098]Indeed a good question! Why don't they have a designated area for all the LB's? That way us heterosexuals would not have to walk the gauntlet? Those men who have created this LB market can go to them, leaving us real men to do what it is we love doing with beautiful females.[/QUOTE]Yes, we want more purity in our sleaze;.)
Aren't the LB bars way in the back already? Pretty easy to avoid, just don't go back to the LB bars. As FDR said, you have nothing to fear but fear itself.
Greetings folks! Will be back to SEA soon and will no doubt spend a lot of time in Bangkok. Last time out I blew a lot of money. I have the intention this time around to stick mostly to beer bars and massage joints. I'll try to avoid go go's completely. The only beer bars I am aware of are on soi 7 and on soi 4 down accross and down from Nana. Is there any beer bar conglomerates like in Pattaya? I will have much more time to seek for diamonds in the ruff this time out and am looking forward to it! Also for those who live here and those who have been back after the floods, how have things changed? Were prices affected? Hope to be posting pics and reports soon!
Thanks,
Satyr
[QUOTE=JerseyShoreSun; 1311788]On my last trip my thai gf expressed the desire to see what cowboy was all about and I thought I hit the jackpot. We were there almost every night for a week except a two night break in between when we headed out for a beach getaway. We took out almost every night from bacarra where we were like permanent fixtures. We found out that a lot of the girls actually don't endorse couples, but were able to find like two or three that were ok with atleast sharing a bed with us. Atleast two I would say were very comfortable but none of them actually participated in the act. PM me for names and numbers if interested.
Conclusion is that its very tough to find really BI women in the gogo bars in BKK.
Cheers,
JSS[/QUOTE]It may have already crossed your mind, but it might be fun to take her to Eden or Devil's Den, where all girls are BI.
[QUOTE=JerseyShoreSun; 1311788]On my last trip my thai gf expressed the desire to see what cowboy was all about and I thought I hit the jackpot. We were there almost every night for a week except a two night break in between when we headed out for a beach getaway. We took out almost every night from bacarra where we were like permanent fixtures. We found out that a lot of the girls actually don't endorse couples, but were able to find like two or three that were ok with atleast sharing a bed with us. Atleast two I would say were very comfortable but none of them actually participated in the act. PM me for names and numbers if interested.
Conclusion is that its very tough to find really BI women in the gogo bars in BKK.[/QUOTE]So the bargirls just sat on the bed playing Angry Birds on their phones while you fucked your gf?
[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1311811]So the bargirls just sat on the bed playing Angry Birds on their phones while you fucked your gf?[/QUOTE]Seems to me it was the other way round.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1311760]1, 000 is for the BJ Place, as far as the cost of the girl, usually goes about 3k / day unless you negotiate a special multiple day discout with her.[/QUOTE]?
The BF at these places runs about 3K, not 1K. Plus most girls ask for 2-3K.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1311844]?
The BF at these places runs about 3K, not 1K. Plus most girls ask for 2-3K.[/QUOTE]You're talking completely out your ass here. The OP said he paid 1k barfine, there is nothing to add here, that's what he Paid, it's a FACT.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1311827]Seems to me it was the other way round.[/QUOTE]Angry birds played the bargirl on their phones while his girlfriend fucked him?
on my last visit got no farther than their lobby entrance. all gals were upstairs and, as a result, you could not mix to get a good read on who was who, e. g, body, attitude, etc. not to mention the fact you are greeted with: "here is the price, what do you want."
seemed sterile (no pun intended) and just quite buisness like.
[quote=crazy4thai; 1311743]i've not tried the dr. bj's yet but just to be clear i'm the one who "upsold" at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s. i offered 200 bt tip up front and she was naked and all mine in the blink of an eye. i saw and enjoyed way more than her mouth and the top of her head.
i am amused walking past the doc's place though as the ladies call out just like the massage places "blow job sir?" "bj" "full service". you got to love this place.[/quote]
on my last trip (april) had some really odd experiences in that parking lot. use to be the gals were more aggressive, one actually shunned me. maybe i am getting too old.
also, i noticed a little clique toward the right side of the lot (facing the nana hotel) that many guys could not break into.
shame, i was a real fan of that lot. one time picked up an absolute stunner. body like a rock, and really funny. the first time i joked with her that she was a ladyboy because she was so tall. she said to me: "if you don't want me there are, as you can see, plenty of little monkeys around you can have." told me in the room she was studying to be an interpretor. actually me her again on my next trip. looked last time, could not find her.
[quote=crazy4thai; 1311156]i've not been to any go-go bars yet but i might do that. walking past dr. bj's on soi 7/1 i saw a lovely, young lass out front with several other more average looking women. it looked to me like she could work a go-go bar if she wanted too. i did not stop though.
at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s, soi 8, i got great service from a lovely young spinner. i'll reveal the name later because i'm not ready to lose my place in line just yet. the bj price is now 800 bt. for a 200 bt tip i had a condensed pse lasting about 30 minutes, just right for a quickie. this woman too could work go-go imo. she was gorgeous.
i had a very good experience with one of the ladies from a pool bar on soi 4. lot's of these women in the bars are considered old because they are in their 30's. on is 37 going on 24 and up for everything but the 3rd hole. she was very charming and funny, very responsive and a gfe. i will repeat. i read much here on the forum about a lack of attractive providers, poor service, etc. of course beauty is in the eye of the beholder but i say that there are many beautiful women available in bangkok whether you are on the streets or in the bars. just open your eyes and choose.
i chose an exotic fl from nana parking lot one night and had great svc with a great attitude for 1, 000 bt short time. for those who like to read about india in the bangkok thread, she is a pretty thai / indian mix with a head of big curly hair. she's not 19 but i'the repeat with her too. i passed up some other lovelies there at nana parking on my way to other places.
and that's my mongering news in bangkok. i'm also posting my hotel experiences in that thread and a short note in tulip massage.
c4t[/quote]
Is Nattaree a one shot or two shot place?
I was there today after a long absence and I could not remember. The girl asked for a tip for 2 shots.
And they had no KY. The girl wanted to use baby oil. No thanks.
Where are the cheapest beer bars in Bangkok?
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1311827]Seems to me it was the other way round.[/QUOTE]I fucked each the gogo girl and my GF too but the gogo girl was shy to be interactive with my GF. My GF is very laid back that way and made sure that I was still having a good time. Afterwards we cuddled and went to sleep with the gogo girl in between us.
The GFE aspect was amazing with each of the bacarra girls we met and that came back to our hotel with us each night. .
Cheers.
JSS
[QUOTE=HenryV; 1311905]On my last visit got no farther than their lobby entrance. All gals were upstairs and, as a result, you could not mix to get a good read on who was who, e. G, body, attitude, etc. Not to mention the fact you are greeted with: "here is the price, what do you want."
Seemed sterile (no pun intended) and just quite buisness like.[/QUOTE]If you want to get a blow job from a good looking girl, Dr BJ is not the place to go. The job they do there good looking girls don't need to do. During months I saw only one good looking girl there, she had very big lips and wore oversized black glasses. And her service was excellent. But most girls are below average as far as their looks is concerned. However, their service is usually outstanding. They really know how to treat your dick. They kiss and lick and carress it in a way most girl friend would not do.
[QUOTE=Satyr23;1311925]Where are the cheapest beer bars in Bangkok?[/QUOTE]Try either ya dong stalls, to be found near any construction site, or else the stoop outside of 7-11.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1311843]How does one look for a diamond in the ruffata beer bar? Do you look under the tables, in the garbage cans, in the freezer?
Clue me in. Do you sit day after day checking out the busloads of new girls being shipped in hoping to find one you like?[/QUOTE]Just walking past the bars on soi 4 I see quite a few hotties every day. With a bit more work, who knows what the cat might've dragged in, eh?
[QUOTE=Harold444;1311843]Bangkok is as slow as I've ever seen it- I got to believe the lower end girls are ready to bargain.[/QUOTE]The higher end girls, too. Now's the time to be here. Fuck the high season.
Does anyone have any experience with teaching ESL in Bangkok without a degree in 2012? I know it used to be very doable years ago, but I've heard lately that they are cracking down on this. If one is a native English speaker with a TEFL certificate and some experience is it still easy to find work in Bangkok without getting in trouble? Please respond only if you have experience in the matter or know someone personally who does.
[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1311919]Is Nattaree a one shot or two shot place?
I was there today after a long absence and I could not remember. The girl asked for a tip for 2 shots.
And they had no KY. The girl wanted to use baby oil. No thanks.[/QUOTE]There's no 'fixed' policy, kind of what you ask for. If you confirm 2 shots with the cheer guest, he'll tell the girl '2 shots. ' Same for BBBJ. Otherwise, they'll likely default to CBJ and one shot. Alternatively, if you guys really hit it off, it'll likely be 2 shots and whatever.
[QUOTE=Dash Riprock;1312082]There's no 'fixed' policy, kind of what you ask for. If you confirm 2 shots with the cheer guest, he'll tell the girl '2 shots. ' Same for BBBJ. Otherwise, they'll likely default to CBJ and one shot. Alternatively, if you guys really hit it off, it'll likely be 2 shots and whatever.[/QUOTE]What the hell is a Cheer Guest?
[QUOTE=Satyr23;1311925]Where are the cheapest beer bars in Bangkok?[/QUOTE]Used to be CHEAP CHARLIES soi 11 but the prices have gone up so, now the new Cheap joint should be Beergarden soi 7 I think.
[QUOTE=Satyr23;1312036]Does anyone have any experience with teaching ESL in Bangkok without a degree in 2012? I know it used to be very doable years ago, but I've heard lately that they are cracking down on this. If one is a native English speaker with a TEFL certificate and some experience is it still easy to find work in Bangkok without getting in trouble? Please respond only if you have experience in the matter or know someone personally who does.[/QUOTE]Okay, let me be a little Brutal with you here:
You want to become an English Teacher and earn 10-12k a month, have no experience and no degree? Forget that. What you are asking is close to impossible in 2012.
A friend of mine (God help him) is a real teacher and needed a TEFL to apply for a Visa. No TEFL = No chance.
Also, this job is so demanded and competitive that the Pay is shit. My friend struggles on a monthly basis to make ends meet.
If you eat at the 25thb outdoor shackholes every meal and live in a THAI appartment at 3 5k per month with no Aircon, you'll be ok.
TEFL is paramount to get a visa and I am not sure if schools in Bangkok still allow Farangs to teach without visa. Maybe upcountry?
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1312121]Okay, let me be a little Brutal with you here:
You want to become an English Teacher and earn 10-12k a month, have no experience and no degree? Forget that. What you are asking is close to impossible in 2012.
A friend of mine (God help him) is a real teacher and needed a TEFL to apply for a Visa. No TEFL = No chance.
Also, this job is so demanded and competitive that the Pay is shit. My friend struggles on a monthly basis to make ends meet.
If you eat at the 25thb outdoor shackholes every meal and live in a THAI appartment at 3 5k per month with no Aircon, you'll be ok.
TEFL is paramount to get a visa and I am not sure if schools in Bangkok still allow Farangs to teach without visa. Maybe upcountry?[/QUOTE]I love Brutal honesty. That's what I figured. I taught in Bangkok many years ago and it was a ***** to get by even back then. I appreciate your imput.
[QUOTE=Satyr23;1312123]I love Brutal honesty. That's what I figured. I taught in Bangkok many years ago and it was a ***** to get by even back then. I appreciate your imput.[/QUOTE]Frenchy is wrong.
At least 50% of teachers don't have degrees. And 75 % no work permits
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1312130]Frenchy is wrong.
At least 50% of teachers don't have degrees. And 75 % no work permits[/QUOTE]Nice! So is it still basically the same as it always was, just with the illusion that the government is now more strict and demanding all teachers have degrees and permits? Are these brave souls still doing the same routine like Khao San degrees and visa runs at the border? I have no problem with a cheap ass Thai apartment (though AC is a must) and street food as it's quite good in Bangkok. Thanks again guys for your imput.
[QUOTE=Satyr23;1312138]Nice! SNIP - like Khao San degrees and visa runs at the border? -SNIP[/QUOTE]I don't know much about this topic but was just reading about two guys who went to the monkey house with the degrees you mention. It seems there might be a verification process in place now.
[QUOTE=Satyr23;1312138]Nice! So is it still basically the same as it always was, just with the illusion that the government is now more strict and demanding all teachers have degrees and permits? Are these brave souls still doing the same routine like Khao San degrees and visa runs at the border? I have no problem with a cheap ass Thai apartment (though AC is a must) and street food as it's quite good in Bangkok. Thanks again guys for your imput.[/QUOTE]I think they cracked down on fake degrees. Most teachers have tourist or marriage visas if no work permit.
There is a shortage of teachers and they need more due to asean. So not too strict.
A bit off topic, but there's quite a few English teachers living in the On Nut area, and their taste in women is horrible LOL.
Don't hiso Thai girls find clean cut falang teachers as viable candidates to raise their off spring?
Mr Satyr23, if you want decent money teaching English go to Korea or Japan (but not Tokyo).
TBH, I think one thing that holds back a teachers salary is that a lot of them, as native English speakers, don't even know proper grammar.
Another thing is their appearance is holding many of them back. No offense, but I wouldn't call a toothless ogre who smokes crack with his 40 year old hooker girlfriend a good role model LOL
Had a look in a few Cowboy bars last night. All the best girls in Sheba to my taste were missing.
Next went to Baccarat. Was absolutely packed out and this is Sunday. Mostly Japanese customers. Most girls looked dead and lifeless. They are clearly showing no enjoyment in being at work at all. Upstairs girls appeared to show some sexy attitude so went up there for a look, but a rather motely bunch. No one good looking. Too much silicone. In the end no girl really impressed me, mostly because of downstairs girls just standing jiggling a bit in place of sexy dancing, and upstairs girls being more sexy but very plain. Its my belief that hot dancers are usually hot fuckers. In this bar they all seemed like cloned dolls. Hard to tell who would be a fun girl.
Moved on to "Dolls House" upstairs as like to see girls with gear off. A very mixed bag here too. Lots of bad silicone jobs. One girl had very cute arse but front view was poor. Another girl had very cute face but body rather average. Another had nice body but face just wasn't quite my type. In the end I settled for a girl whose face was a bit below my spec but had a good natural body and very sexy dancing style, aged 30 but a relative newbie. Compromises seem to be necessary. Chemistry was going great as we kissed and cuddled in the bar. Price for ST was not discussed.
She was playful in the shower, and not too shy in the room either, and performance was up to expectations. Good BBBJ and very good overall sex. No hurry to leave either but had to pick up her "sister" after 2AM to go home by motorcycle to Bang Kapi. Her English was very poor so we conversed in Thai. Her intention was to save money and open a Spa with close relatives. This seemed a bad idea to me a Spas keep opening and business keeps going down every year.
Good performing bar girls are still out there when the chemistry is right, but there are a lot of girls out there who give off a vibe that while their body looks nice and face maybe O. K, they would be dull and mechanical in the room.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1311881]You're talking completely out your ass here. The OP said he paid 1k barfine, there is nothing to add here, that's what he Paid, it's a FACT.[/QUOTE]Not quite a fact, the OP's question was hypothetical, you missed the word "if" in his question but no way should anyone pay 3K Baht a day to bar fine a BJ bar worker plus 3k to the girl. You can get much cheaper options and better looking chicks at other venues and they won't cost you half that much.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1312153]A bit off topic, but there's quite a few English teachers living in the On Nut area, and their taste in women is horrible LOL.[/QUOTE]How many of them are eventually writing here describing the thai beauties the could hook up with? LOL
[QUOTE=Run Mann; 1312173] You can get much cheaper options and better looking chicks at other venues and they won't cost you half that much.[/QUOTE] Very true but there is people who think it is still a bargain, just as poeple spends weeks and weeks to look for a girl through DIA, maybe living upcountry, so that when he arrives in LOS he has her waiting for him (to regret then when he sees the wide offer on the ground) , people spending 5 or 10k for an escort through a website (not getting what he saw) for an hour of louzy service and so on and so on. There is people looking at easy and safe (in their mind) options, rady to repeat day after day with the same girl who was "ok" the first night, maybe missing other gems the days after. So I think there is people paying 3k to the venue and 3 to 4 for the girl, thinking it is allright.
The informed people, thanks to ISG, for instance, are just a tiny fraction of the customer panel. Otherwise just 10 establishents could make a living in BKK.
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;1312144]I don't know much about this topic but was just reading about two guys who went to the monkey house with the degrees you mention. It seems there might be a verification process in place now.[/QUOTE]The fishy thing is I've read this same article on numerous TESL sites describing the same two goons being sentenced to the proverbial monkey house for grievous offense of visa fraud! It's always the same two and nobody else. Most of the esteemed 40 year old toothless crackheads on these sites describe that the school where the two taught was highly suspicious to begin with. It sounds eerily familiar to Thai police 'cleaning up prostitution' in various areas. Just a show I think, so people think somethings being done about all these crack head ogres teaching their kids!
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1312153]A bit off topic, but there's quite a few English teachers living in the On Nut area, and their taste in women is horrible LOL.
Don't hiso Thai girls find clean cut falang teachers as viable candidates to raise their off spring?[/QUOTE]What kind of an idiot dates a really attractive hiso princess?
Straight ticket to misery that is.
Hot girls are for fucking. Nice girls are for dating.
Walked up and down Nana street a few times, about to leave and go back to the hotel when a nice smile drew me into the Stumble Inn (now closed). The girl was not beautiful, but she looked interesting and I was thirsty. I walked up the three or four steps into the elevated bar overlooking Nana street, pulled a bar stool next to the girl with the smile, started chatting. Her name is JewLy, very quick with and kept telling me funny stories about girls and guys she knew in the business. Totally uninhibited, would discuss any topic without fear or shame. I found that a bit sexy. Her teeth were a bit crooked, but I had seen her walk to the WC and I thought I saw a first class ass under the short skirt. I drank a few beers, bought a few for her, at first had really no interest in spending the night with her, but over time we pulled our stools closer together. I began to stroke her hair and shoulders, then pulled her in for a kiss. She gave me a very sensual, slow, deep french. We were sitting right on the front rail of the bar overlooking the street, maybe a little public for my taste but she had no problem prolonging the kiss. Soon she was massaging my rod, who was now at full attention. I allowed this to go on for a while, never one to discourage a young Thai girl who wants to stroke my penis in public.
I told her my name, got hers (JewLy, and this is the way she spells it) and she immediately gave me a nickname, as she explained she does for all her "customers". She continued to tell me stories about some of her customers, using their odd nicknames, it was quite intimate. I finally asked her to come to my hotel, she agreed, made the rounds of bar to clear it with Mamasan, I paid the bill and barfine (600 Bht) and we went looking for a taxi. Soon we were at my hotel, we sat on the couch in my room and she quickly took off all but her panties. Her small tits were very nice and she had not problem with my continuous stroking of them as we sat and talked. I took off all my clothes, she slowly stroked my penis as we talked and got to know each other. We talked for almost an hour, her hand never left my rock-hard joint. I alternated between massaging her tits and pulling her panties down to play with her pussy. At one point she got up to use the toilet and as she walked away I got a close up view of one of the most perfect asses I've ever seen. Suddenly her crooked teeth did not seem to be an issue.
When we moved to the bed she showed to be willing for anything, mish, doggy, doggy laying down with me on top (my favorite) , we went on for about 30 minutes and I was not about to cum so we took a break, talked and stroked some more. As she laid in my arms I explored everything, she seems ready. I never inserted my finger in her ass but went all around it and she never flinched or objected. Finally I mounted her again, drove her hard for several minutes and was able to unload. She commented how some of her "customers" last two minutes, five minutes and I was very different.
We laughed, stroked, finally slept for three or four hours. I woke up, noticed this hot, young girl in my bed and was immediately hard. I scooted up in spoon position, slid my penis between her legs from behind, began to slide across her pussy. I reached around the front of her and pressed my penis against her pussy, without penetration (she is a real pro, insists on a condom and freaked a bit the night before when I briefly entered her bareback). This went on for 10 minutes or so, her pussy getting wetter and wetter. Finally, when I was sure she was fully awake, slid on the condom and we went to work. Faster this time, no need for a second marathon session, I enjoyed cupping her perfect ass in both hands, then one hand, then the other, then fireworks.
I showered, then she showered. I sat in the bathroom watching her shower, then stood and began to jack my joint watching her shower, she thought this was awesome and left the shower to give me a BBBJ, five or six minutes. I could not pop a second time so she gave up, started applying lotion and cream to her body. I asked her if I could apply the lotion to her ass, she gladly complied, gave me a tube of cream and placed her ass in my face. I slowly rubbed lots of cream on her wonderfull ass, kissed each cheek several times, then as an afterthought put my hand between her cheeks and inserted my finger into her pussy. She was incredibly hot and wet, my finger slid inside with no effort, then two fingers. This went on for several minutes, she looking into the mirror applying cream and makeup, me sitting behind her massaging her ass with two fingers in her pussy. Finally we both dressed, she left the hotel. I was left with a raging hard-on and some great memories. And off to work I went.
I have JewLy's number, she will move to a new bar on Nana plaza since Stumble Inn is now closed. I've seen several comments where the "6" gives "10" service, this experience is the perfect example. Crooked teeth, mind-blowing sex. I'm all in.
Hi,
Since I'll have an 9 hrs stopover in BKK on 13 August I planned to go, as usual, downtown to enjoy a dirty massage parlour, but I have known that on 12 and 13 August it will be holiday due to the Queen's birthday. Is the usual action still going on?
Thanks for any advice.
CF68
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1312218]What kind of an idiot dates a really attractive hiso princess?
Straight ticket to misery that is.
Hot girls are for fucking. Nice girls are for dating.[/QUOTE]So well stated. Who wants the worry and the hassle that comes with dating a super hot gal. Hit it and move on. Better to the be the back door man and let someone else foot the bill. Plenty of nice girls out there, who are not too hard on the eye either.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1312130]Frenchy is wrong.
At least 50% of teachers don't have degrees. And 75 % no work permits[/QUOTE]Holy shit? Really? Damn, I knew that to be an English teacher you did not need to be a rocket Scientist but 50% don't have a Diploma? Now that makes perfect sense! That's why the English in this country is so fucked, because the teachers can't teach for shit. Who can blame them for the pay they are getting.
75% with no work permit? Damn that seems very high to me. The day Thailand needs to crack down on some people, I guess these guys will be the Pawns, the guys in front of the line of fire.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1312153]A bit off topic, but there's quite a few English teachers living in the On Nut area, and their taste in women is horrible LOL.[/QUOTE]With 10k per month salary, pickings are slim LOL
[QUOTE=Satyr23;1312181]The fishy thing is I've read this same article on numerous TESL sites describing the same two goons being sentenced to the proverbial monkey house for grievous offense of visa fraud! It's always the same two and nobody else. Most of the esteemed 40 year old toothless crackheads on these sites describe that the school where the two taught was highly suspicious to begin with. It sounds eerily familiar to Thai police 'cleaning up prostitution' in various areas. Just a show I think, so people think somethings being done about all these crack head ogres teaching their kids![/QUOTE]Go on, Take a chance. Tell us once you hit BKK. I'll be curious to see.
Drop us a message on ISG once every 2 weeks so we know you're still teaching and not caught. And no cheating! You can't use them computers from the Lobby of the Nut House
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1312290]With 10k per month salary, pickings are slim LOL[/QUOTE]I don't know where you got this figure from.
Minimum salary is generally 30K / month.
Even filipinos usually get 20K.
Maybe try posting about things you know more about.
I work 25 hours a week, but I only teach 15. 5 hours. Plus, I get 3 months of paid vacation. 8 sick days, 4 immigration days, and all the other numerous Thai hoildays. For this I get 49, 000 baht.
I can work any Saturday or Sunday at a shopping mall english center and make over 4000 baht. I can teach weekday evenings if I want. And I sell weed.
Some months I spend 60, 000 baht plus on pussy. Some months I am dating a girl.
If you are white and have a degree in any field, it is on like Donkey Kong.
[QUOTE=Oidar; 1312299]And I sell weed.
Some months I spend 60, 000 baht plus on pussy. Some months I am dating a girl.
If you are white and have a degree in any field, it is on like Donkey Kong.[/QUOTE]Ok, we got the point. Teaching is the cover up for the trade activities, LOL
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1312301]Ok, we got the point. Teaching is the cover up for the trade activities, LOL[/QUOTE]Nah, I'm just a pothead. Tourists don't know shit. Always pay too much.
[QUOTE=Oidar;1312304]Nah, I'm just a pothead. Tourists don't know shit. Always pay too much.[/QUOTE]Thought english teachers might have traces of british humour in their possession to teach better to foreigners. I might be' wrong.
Not heard much about this venue. How did you find out about it? Can you provide more info on the scene, e. G, best night / time of night to go, cover charge, ratio of men to women, etc.
Lastly, is it anything similar to Thema, I. E, the good looking young women will only go with the Japanese.
Thank you.
[QUOTE=Breakline10; 1310919]I spent a week in Bangkok. All the necessary information I found on ISG, but it took me some time to collect it. So here is my 'Bangkok in brief' report:
The Sukhumvit area is a good location for a hotel. I used the following webpage in order to find a GF hotel:
[url]http://www.bargirlfriendlyhotels.com/bangkok-girl-friendly-hotels/[/url]
A good map is for orientation with all the hotspots:
[url]http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.00044836624e9b986acc9&ll=13.729943[/url]
100. 567389&spn=0. 014549, 0.018775&z=16.
The discotheque Climax in the Ambassador Hotel on Soi 11 is fun and had two good live bands playing. I met a freelancer there and hung out with her for two nights.
Mik's Soapy MP helped me also a lot:
[url]http://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=au&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=112522687346612693021.0004488989cf3827c091b&ll=13.748223[/url]
100. 558891&spn=0. 111885, 0.149689&z=13.
Besides visting Annies and Bangkok Cozy I liked La Belle. Probably I paid more than the locals but I liked the stylish ambience. If I had more time I would have explored the upper class MPs more. It was interesting to
Visit a MP, where the locals with some money play.
Thanks to everybody for the information I collected via ISG![/QUOTE]
Aren't you worried about selling weed in Thailand? It's not a country known for being lenient on dealers. Although I have no idea in how much hot water a foreigner would be for "just" trading a bit of weed.
[QUOTE=HenryV; 1312313]Not heard much about this venue. How did you find out about it? Can you provide more info on the scene, e. G, best night / time of night to go, cover charge, ratio of men to women, etc.
Lastly, is it anything similar to Thema, I. E, the good looking young women will only go with the Japanese.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]You don't have to worry about good looking young women going only with the Japanese. There's hardly any good looking young women here and two, mostly falangs go here.
[QUOTE=Waylon;1298614]Something useful then. Ok I've been reading the posts for the past month or so and frankly I have found nothing new (with few exceptions) about where to get a good shag in Bangkok at a reasonable price. So I will share my recent experiences. Best root recently was with Focus in EZ Soi 26, young, killer bod and when you get her going both a fun and highly responsive experience. Now it takes because of her age. 18 patience but well worth the effort. Incidently while they will try do not pay full whack up front. Also recently had a great experience at Tarntip Soi 7/1, ostensibly a straight up massage shop that I happened upon where a young very cute lass called cannot remeber but sounded like Jim or Jam gave the most amazing erotic massage that I have had in LOS. Limited to a HJ but her guiding your hand exploring firstly her clothed body that after a little feigned reluctance becomes her naked body ends with a technically superior as they say in Thailand finish. 500 and she was more than happy.[/QUOTE]Never heard of Jim or Jam but a common girl's name in Thailand is Jum. This turned out to be her name. First time I visited she was busy so I booked a session for the following day. 2 hour oil massage in a private room at 700 baht. The private rooms are nice and come equipped with a jacussi and massage table. Didn't use the Jazussi, not sure but there might be an extra charge. Jum is beautiful young and petite with doe like eyes giving her something of a Japanese schoolgirl appearance. Her massage was great both strong and technically excellent, as good as I have had in 5 years in Bangkok. This place presents itself as straight up and at first they may have succeeded. Problem is when you operate in the middle of an entertainment venue like Soi7/1 it's hard not to be overwhelmed by what's goes on around you. For example the well known Eden and Dr BG are right next door. Anyway all I will say is that Jum is Bangkok's best kept secret although I suspect not for long. She is fun speaks reasonable English and is a real delight to spend time with. She told me she does not work every day so I will be booking for my future tyrsts.
[QUOTE=Chill Out;1312383]Aren't you worried about selling weed in Thailand? It's not a country known for being lenient on dealers. Although I have no idea in how much hot water a foreigner would be for "just" trading a bit of weed.[/QUOTE]Depends on what cop you stumble upon, you could either get away with a fine (cash of course) or be made an example of and given a lenghty sentence at the Hilton. All that's left to do then is to sell your ass in jail for a bit of cash and then write a book, like all the Losers books you see at the airport about Farangs and their stories no one gives a shit about.
Why risk everything for a few baht profit?
Not worth the risk and definitely not something to be proud of.
[QUOTE=HenryV; 1312313]Not heard much about this venue. How did you find out about it? Can you provide more info on the scene, e. G, best night / time of night to go, cover charge, ratio of men to women, etc.
Lastly, is it anything similar to Thema, I. E, the good looking young women will only go with the Japanese.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]I found out about Climax from internet reading before my first trip. Read many nice reports of this venue and decided to try it out. I have been there many many times since that. It was from here I picked up and fucked my first thaipussy in my life. The scene is quite simple actally. It is part live band playing (sth actually quite nice) and part DJ music. It is a huntingground where freelanceladies in huge numbers come to earn that extra buck. The girls ranging from absoultely stunning to mid / low when it comes to looks. Stunners is ofcourse most popular and most likely to give you starfish performance. By a smile, eye contact, approaching or help from tha staff you can get in touch with them. The main issue here is that since the girls are freelancers they are free to decide if they want to connect with you or not. So nice clean clothes and showered body is highly appreciated. Myself I jeans myself up, put on nice shoes and nice clean shirt or t-shirt. I enjoy connecting with the girls because from my experience this gives you better chance of good pussyaction later. I never discuss money and I can not remember beeing asked how much I will give them. Most girls from my experience will go for a LT session without mentioning anything. But ofcourse I allways treat the girls nicely in Climax, in my room and after when they leave. I have met only good (bad) girls from Climax. But I guess rotten eggs in the bascet can be found in Climax as well. I allways give them some "taximoney" for the LT session. Ammount based upon GFE, anal, rimming, shaving, BBJ, squirting, fingering, DATY and so on.
I have been covering Climax the hole week (Monday. Sunday). The easiest way to inform you is that they stay open every night of the week (x public holidays like some royal birthdays, buddahdays or electiondays). Climax has paid the cops off so they stay open until 6am if crowded. During weekdays with smaller crowd (still good though) they tend to close when crowd gets smaller around 3am. If they did not pay off the cops they have to close at 3am. The crowd is allways good as in many people but this tops up on Thursday. Saturday. I have visited the place I think all possible hours and have never had any trouble getting nice table (I know the manager now and that helps). I know what kind of women I like so he points out the direction where they are located or he bring one over. But I guess the place starts to get going from 10. 11pm and after that is an important issue and that is that after 1-2am then bargirls and gogo girls starts to show up. These girls are not necessarly ugly and have not been picked. They have just not been picked for LT session so they have another go in Climax.
The ratio men to women are hard to predict but in general it is a good ratio seen from me as guy point of view. By dressing nicely you will be ok because quite a lot of men looks directly shitty in shorts, flip flops and "Victoria Bitter" singlet. You will even out evt ratioissues if they are present.
Covercharge I would not know because I allways order a bottle of vodka in the door (2500BHT with VIP card).
Thermae and Climax are not simular. Climax has so far no big Korean, Japaneese or Chineese crowd. But they are to be seen but not in numbers as in Thermae. I have also used Thermae as a huntingground. Latest pick up from the Japaneese line up was 16`th of June I believe. Also I place I am found of. I am native scandinavian by the way.
Hope this was helpful.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1312166]Next went to Baccarat. Was absolutely packed out and this is Sunday. Mostly Japanese customers. Most girls looked dead and lifeless. They are clearly showing no enjoyment in being at work at all. Upstairs girls appeared to show some sexy attitude so went up there for a look, but a rather motely bunch. No one good looking. Too much silicone. In the end no girl really impressed me, mostly because of downstairs girls just standing jiggling a bit in place of sexy dancing, and upstairs girls being more sexy but very plain. Its my belief that hot dancers are usually hot fuckers. In this bar they all seemed like cloned dolls. Hard to tell who would be a fun girl.[/QUOTE]Can second this. But if you want to go out, have a beer and watch girls without being the only customer in the bar and constantly harassed by the mama to pick a girl Baccara is a great place. Took home two girls from baccara on separate occasions last week and although they were both very good lookers none of them were performers (one even insisted on CBJ!) and wanted to get back to the bar ASAP. Not to mention these girls are more expensive than most gogos.
Shit that place sucks! Expensive lady drinks and way too much pressure. And when I did buy one the chick fucked off after a few sips. Other clients more willing to be fleeced?
If you are heading to the Nana Hotel parking lot I would suggest going to their beer bar which is right there and run by same Nana. Beers are half the price of plaza bars and you can sit there and decide what to do. Two girls are fun there. Slightly fatter half Chinese and Thai and one Thai girl. I don't remember names.
Oh and Insomnia is boring! Left after about 10 mins! Not my scene and girls there are kinda stuck up? Hmm
[QUOTE=Hatguy;1312761]Oh and Insomnia is boring! Left after about 10 mins! Not my scene and girls there are kinda stuck up? Hmm[/QUOTE]A lot of those chicks in the sukhumvit nightclub scene are crap, succubus evil types- mostly used up over 30, lazy, and quite pretentious! I met one gal off of TF, a regular at Insomnia, she had a sponsor from England who gave her quite a bit each month. She did give me free sex though, but later on she confessed she was a freelance hooker. She found a local guy more suitable who paid for her nose and face surgery. She had no use for the guy from England and kicked his ass to the curb and left him with a broken heart. I'm sure these stories are all too familiar but what's shocking, IMO, is these chicks aren't even all that hot and are getting big baht from lonely falang. Many of these broads will brag about having so many sponsors from Italy, England, France, and America. (None from Africa though) you would think they work for the United Nations.
My only experience with Climax was not good. I was feeling slightly tipsy and wanted to have some p4p fun. I picked up a girl who looked like Lucy Lui, but on crack, took her home then started pounding away only to be met with an awful fishy smell coming from her poos. LOL.
I hurried up and climaxed (no pun intended) , the next morning she asked if I wanted more sex but I told her I had no power LOL
[QUOTE=Hatguy;1312761]If you are heading to the Nana Hotel parking lot I would suggest going to their beer bar which is right there and run by same Nana. Beers are half the price of plaza bars and you can sit there and decide what to do. [/QUOTE]I would but I find it too hard to see the Rainbow 4 gogo dancers from there. ;.)
[QUOTE=Hatguy;1312761]Shit that place sucks! Expensive lady drinks and way too much pressure. And when I did buy one the chick fucked off after a few sips. Other clients more willing to be fleeced?[/QUOTE]You forgot to mention the mothers and older gals quoting 2k ST.
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1312971]You forgot to mention the mothers and older gals quoting 2k ST.[/QUOTE]Perfect hunters of the tourist not believing he can get a woman 20 year junior his wife and costing a fraction of what he'd pay at home.
Thank you for taking the time to supply the info.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1312416]You don't have to worry about good looking young women going only with the Japanese. There's hardly any good looking young women here and two, mostly falangs go here.[/QUOTE]
I say this sincerely, thank you for taking the time to provide all the info.
[QUOTE=Skogis; 1312689]I found out about Climax from internet reading before my first trip. Read many nice reports of this venue and decided to try it out. I have been there many many times since that. It was from here I picked up and fucked my first thaipussy in my life. The scene is quite simple actally. It is part live band playing (sth actually quite nice) and part DJ music. It is a huntingground where freelanceladies in huge numbers come to earn that extra buck. The girls ranging from absoultely stunning to mid / low when it comes to looks. Stunners is ofcourse most popular and most likely to give you starfish performance. By a smile, eye contact, approaching or help from tha staff you can get in touch with them. The main issue here is that since the girls are freelancers they are free to decide if they want to connect with you or not. So nice clean clothes and showered body is highly appreciated. Myself I jeans myself up, put on nice shoes and nice clean shirt or t-shirt. I enjoy connecting with the girls because from my experience this gives you better chance of good pussyaction later. I never discuss money and I can not remember beeing asked how much I will give them. Most girls from my experience will go for a LT session without mentioning anything. But ofcourse I allways treat the girls nicely in Climax, in my room and after when they leave. I have met only good (bad) girls from Climax. But I guess rotten eggs in the bascet can be found in Climax as well. I allways give them some "taximoney" for the LT session. Ammount based upon GFE, anal, rimming, shaving, BBJ, squirting, fingering, DATY and so on.
I have been covering Climax the hole week (Monday. Sunday). The easiest way to inform you is that they stay open every night of the week (x public holidays like some royal birthdays, buddahdays or electiondays). Climax has paid the cops off so they stay open until 6am if crowded. During weekdays with smaller crowd (still good though) they tend to close when crowd gets smaller around 3am. If they did not pay off the cops they have to close at 3am. The crowd is allways good as in many people but this tops up on Thursday. Saturday. I have visited the place I think all possible hours and have never had any trouble getting nice table (I know the manager now and that helps). I know what kind of women I like so he points out the direction where they are located or he bring one over. But I guess the place starts to get going from 10. 11pm and after that is an important issue and that is that after 1-2am then bargirls and gogo girls starts to show up. These girls are not necessarly ugly and have not been picked. They have just not been picked for LT session so they have another go in Climax.
The ratio men to women are hard to predict but in general it is a good ratio seen from me as guy point of view. By dressing nicely you will be ok because quite a lot of men looks directly shitty in shorts, flip flops and "Victoria Bitter" singlet. You will even out evt ratioissues if they are present.
Covercharge I would not know because I allways order a bottle of vodka in the door (2500BHT with VIP card).
Thermae and Climax are not simular. Climax has so far no big Korean, Japaneese or Chineese crowd. But they are to be seen but not in numbers as in Thermae. I have also used Thermae as a huntingground. Latest pick up from the Japaneese line up was 16`th of June I believe. Also I place I am found of. I am native scandinavian by the way.
Hope this was helpful.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HenryV;1313091]I say this sincerely, thank you for taking the time to provide all the info.[/QUOTE]Don't take me wrong but was it necessary to quote the whole report to add one line of "thanks"? Just wondering if I look at things in the wrong way.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1312689]I found out about Climax from internet reading before my first trip. Climax has paid the cops off so they stay open until 6am if crowded. During weekdays with smaller crowd (still good though) they tend to close when crowd gets smaller around 3am. If they did not pay off the cops they have to close at 3am. .[/QUOTE]Nowhere in the world LE likes to be advertised as bribe collector, as this is what you are stating. Never good anywhere but more in Thailand where "face" counts a lot. Usually theybhave to show people that certain rumours are wrong. This is why sometime some places are raided. To show people they are on the case. Not because they want the city clean and quiet.
ISG is certainly not Bangkok Gazette or whatever, but still it is irrelevant for us to know why and how it is opened till 6am, good to know it is open till then. That is not a local secret as everybody can see it, still good info for the visitors.
So don't venture in what could be speculations. LOL
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1313031]After almost a 2 year abscence where I read the sing. Guys saying rainbow prices went up to 2500 short time I can happilee report that most of the better looking ones are up for the usual 2000. With so many girls I didn't see how an increase was justified, but hey thats life.
I still can't bring myself to barfine though. Almost $90 in Thailand is an exorbitant amount when staying longer than a month. They just don't look as appealing as they do when you here for 2 weeks.
But the short time room is now 350 a 50 baht increase from before.[/QUOTE]Definitely doesn't make as much sense when you live here.
I still am getting 1500 ST from many girls though, but not in Baccara.
Legitimate question.
I believe yes, as an exemplar, if you will, with respect to taking the time to sit down and provide information, vs. The non response I received from the other individual.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1313098]Don't take me wrong but was it necessary to quote the whole report to add one line of "thanks"? Just wondering if I look at things in the wrong way.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1313031]After almost a 2 year abscence where I read the sing. Guys saying rainbow prices went up to 2500 short time I can happilee report that most of the better looking ones are up for the usual 2000. With so many girls I didn't see how an increase was justified, but hey thats life.
I still can't bring myself to barfine though. Almost $90 in Thailand is an exorbitant amount when staying longer than a month. They just don't look as appealing as they do when you here for 2 weeks.
But the short time room is now 350 a 50 baht increase from before.[/QUOTE]Sounds not bad. Heading to BKK next week and curious if a low season effected prices. SoiCowboy ST 1500?
Cheers.
T. 72
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1312289]Holy shit? Really? Damn, I knew that to be an English teacher you did not need to be a rocket Scientist but 50% don't have a Diploma? Now that makes perfect sense! That's why the English in this country is so fucked, because the teachers can't teach for shit. Who can blame them for the pay they are getting.
75% with no work permit? Damn that seems very high to me. The day Thailand needs to crack down on some people, I guess these guys will be the Pawns, the guys in front of the line of fire.[/QUOTE]Everywhere around is the same: the Philippines, Vietnam, Taiwan, even Japan. I know one guy fro the States who even didn't graduate high school and he became English teacher in S-E Asia.
Cheers.
T. 72
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1313031]After almost a 2 year abscence where I read the sing. Guys saying rainbow prices went up to 2500 short time I can happilee report that most of the better looking ones are up for the usual 2000. With so many girls I didn't see how an increase was justified, but hey thats life.
I still can't bring myself to barfine though. Almost $90 in Thailand is an exorbitant amount when staying longer than a month. They just don't look as appealing as they do when you here for 2 weeks.
But the short time room is now 350 a 50 baht increase from before.[/QUOTE]Refreshing to hear from a non-resident. 2000 plus 600 BF plus 350 ST Hotel plus drinks. You are probably close to 125 USD for ST. Most likely the girl will try to get the "deed" done as quickly as possible. Bad value for money no matter how you slice it. Go to an oily. Better performance, multiple shots, a good attitude, and 2100 for 90 min of fun. Far better value.
I don't even go to GoGos to drink anymore. Prices are taking the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]. Want to drink beer? Head to Suk Soi 47 or 26 where you will find an establishment that has 10 Belgian beers on tap for 120 baht for. 5 ltr. There are lots of deals in this town. Why get ripped off?
[QUOTE=HenryV; 1313240]Legitimate question.
I believe yes, as an exemplar, if you will, with respect to taking the time to sit down and provide information, vs. The non response I received from the other individual.[/QUOTE]My point was on quoting the whole post, not on the "thanks", that is your call. Quoting a whole long post that's just a few inches below is an unnecessary screen space. There is people here reading from smart phones or tablets, so they long quote might be a visual nuisance.
[QUOTE=HenryV; 1313240]Legitimate question.
I believe yes, as an exemplar, if you will, with respect to taking the time to sit down and provide information, vs. The non response I received from the other individual.[/QUOTE]What more do you want to know? No hot looking young girls to be found there and of course no Japanese and its quite unlike Thermae. I truly apologize for the cliff note response! I been there 2 times and questioned why I even bothered going there again! I did expound on the general lower suk nightclub scene in a subsequent post. If I had to chose the lesser of two evils it would be Insomnia. Oh, and Climax is in place that looks that looks like a fucking garage. I was surprised there wasn't a beat up Chevy pickup on blocks in the corner LOL.
But of course another man's meat is another man's poison.
Then again. Don't listen to me, I also think Pattaya has mostly ugly girls. Perhaps I'm too picky.
Just went in to see what it was like. Had a good BJ from deep sucking girl. Very good. And met Dr BJ. Nice bloke! Ill be back!
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1313309]My point was on quoting the whole post, not on the "thanks", that is your call. Quoting a whole long post that's just a few inches below is an unnecessary screen space. There is people here reading from smart phones or tablets, so they long quote might be a visual nuisance.[/QUOTE]Absolutely agree.
[QUOTE=Hatguy;1313407]Just went in to see what it was like. Had a good BJ from deep sucking girl. Very good. And met Dr BJ. Nice bloke! Ill be back![/QUOTE]Any reference in the girl? It is known that YMMV, but a first hand referral would not be bad, in tems of real look vs. Web gallery and attitude (although you quote "Had a good BJ from deep sucking girl. Very good").
Did DrBj give you any prescription such as "a BJ a day keeps sickness away"? LOL
[QUOTE=Hatguy;1313407]Just went in to see what it was like. Had a good BJ from deep sucking girl. Very good. And met Dr BJ. Nice bloke! Ill be back![/QUOTE]Any girls there that can suck nonstop for an hour or two?
[quote=pinkpearl;1313509]any girls there that can suck nonstop for an hour or two?[/quote]i asked that question at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s. the mmsn. told me they are obligated to suck until you cum. she told me the record (in bkk) is 50 minutes.
[quote=luvpuss;1313558]i asked that question at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s. the mmsn. told me they are obligated to suck until you cum. she told me the record (in bkk) is 50 minutes.[/quote]maybe someone can put that to the test. soon after ejaculating go in there & see if they'll keep sucking for an hour.
my personal record is lasting 4 hours, which is also the longest a single girl has sucked me, more or less without stopping. i'd get my money's worth at dr. bj's or [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] doing that unless they charged me for 4 sessions.
years ago i tried to get info from aey of annies on a 60 minute smoking session but i guess she wasn't keen on the idea, or had never heard of a guy or girl doing that.
Hi,
So the place that JUM works at is called "TARNTIP" or what? Are there also other girls working? I guess they were not worth mentioning?
(I will be in BKK soon. Will definitely look her up). What does her body look like? Any tits worth mentioning? .
Thanks for the update.
Does anybody have a phone number for the place, so I can arrange a massage session with her. Since she does not seem to be available all week.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;1312586]Never heard of Jim or Jam but a common girl's name in Thailand is Jum. This turned out to be her name. First time I visited she was busy so I booked a session for the following day. 2 hour oil massage in a private room at 700 baht. The private rooms are nice and come equipped with a jacussi and massage table. Didn't use the Jazussi, not sure but there might be an extra charge. Jum is beautiful young and petite with doe like eyes giving her something of a Japanese schoolgirl appearance. Her massage was great both strong and technically excellent, as good as I have had in 5 years in Bangkok. This place presents itself as straight up and at first they may have succeeded. Problem is when you operate in the middle of an entertainment venue like Soi7/1 it's hard not to be overwhelmed by what's goes on around you. For example the well known Eden and Dr BG are right next door. Anyway all I will say is that Jum is Bangkok's best kept secret although I suspect not for long. She is fun speaks reasonable English and is a real delight to spend time with. She told me she does not work every day so I will be booking for my future tyrsts.[/QUOTE]
Considering stopping there on my next visit to Bangkok. Anyone care to opine, or provide general info?
[quote=luvpuss;1313558]i asked that question at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s. the mmsn. told me they are obligated to suck until you cum. she told me the record (in bkk) is 50 minutes.[/quote]i've been in there longer than 50 minutes before. nothing but sucking the whole time. ended up not coming and left.
I have been to Thailand a few times, each time staying for 1 week or so. Each time it was more miss than hit in terms of finding good-looking young girls in many different venues.
Last time the taxi driver from the airport took me to a Western-themed bar somewhere away from Sukkhumvit, not Soi Cowboy. Did pick up a good-looking girl with pretty face and beautiful glossy skin and took her back to Livingstone Lodge. She agreed to an all nighter but slipped right out after the first round, leaving me with a big hard on all night.
One time a tuk tuk driver took me to a allegedly high-class joint with girls wearing part dresses. The girl I took had pussy stank to high heaven. So disgusted, had to kick her out of the room.
The freelancers at Thermae Cafe were mostly ugly, rundown and nasty.
I have read through Thailand's threads but not sure where to go to find good-looking young girls for all nighters. Looks like Soi Cowboy is one of the preferred areas.
I will be in Bangkok only 3 nights so will not have time to explore. Any help will be appreciated and will try to reciprocate where I can.
Thanks
Just got back from T DED 99 bar in the saphan kwai area. Man, that place is huge. Actually connected to another strip club and the girls rotate between the two bars. Drinks and food was relatively cheap but can add up just like any place else. There had to be at least 60 ladies (strippers and working hostess). The prices are 1800 B (short time) 2800 (long time) to include the barfine and hotel across from the club.
The papasans are not pushy at all; told them I'll look first as I'm drinking my Singha and they left me alone. Looked around for a few hours and finally made my choice. The girls don't even ask for a lady drink, I had to tell them to order something else if they didn't want to drink my beer.
Last call and check bin is at 0300, as I was leaving the hotel, the couples were checking into the hotel. The best time to go is after 1100 because that when more girls show up.
Contrary to previous reports, the area is pretty safe because there is a police station just down the road. Actually there was a cop eating and drinking in the bar, must have been off duty. Mainly Thai customers but it's getting popular with Koreans and Japanese who are tired of the Soi Cowboy and Nana scene. The girls will give you a lap dance as they are sitting with you, however some are shy if you are a foreigner.
Will go back and check out Rainbow next time, heard they got some lookers there.
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker; 1313841]I have been to Thailand a few times, each time staying for 1 week or so. Each time it was more miss than hit in terms of finding good-looking young girls in many different venues.
Thanks[/QUOTE]First thing you have to do is stop folliwing advices from taxi drivers and tuk tuk.
There are sufficient indications in here, if you RTFF, giving you the right path.
First is to agree with an unknown girl a ST session (and price) on the common understanding it can become a LT (and its price) if she performs well. As long as you also make clear your expectations.
[quote=pinkpearl; 1313573]maybe someone can put that to the test. soon after ejaculating go in there & see if they'll keep sucking for an hour.
my personal record is lasting 4 hours, which is also the longest a single girl has sucked me, more or less without stopping. i'd get my money's worth at dr. bj's or [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] doing that unless they charged me for 4 sessions.
years ago i tried to get info from aey of annies on a 60 minute smoking session but i guess she wasn't keen on the idea, or had never heard of a guy or girl doing that.[/quote]damn. 4 hours! did you manage to read half of war and peace during that time? maybe i'll bring my laptop in next time i go to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and just get some work done while getting an endless hummer.
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker; 1313841]I have been to Thailand a few times, each time staying for 1 week or so. Each time it was more miss than hit in terms of finding good-looking young girls in many different venues.
Last time the taxi driver from the airport took me to a Western-themed bar somewhere away from Sukkhumvit, not Soi Cowboy. Did pick up a good-looking girl with pretty face and beautiful glossy skin and took her back to Livingstone Lodge. She agreed to an all nighter but slipped right out after the first round, leaving me with a big hard on all night.
One time a tuk tuk driver took me to a allegedly high-class joint with girls wearing part dresses. The girl I took had pussy stank to high heaven. So disgusted, had to kick her out of the room.
The freelancers at Thermae Cafe were mostly ugly, rundown and nasty.
I have read through Thailand's threads but not sure where to go to find good-looking young girls for all nighters. Looks like Soi Cowboy is one of the preferred areas.
I will be in Bangkok only 3 nights so will not have time to explore. Any help will be appreciated and will try to reciprocate where I can.
Thanks[/QUOTE]If you can't find a girl in Bangkok then?
In soi Cowboy try Shark, Tilac and Baccarra
Rainbow 4, Carousal in Nana Plaza.
You can find free lancers in BeerGarden in Soi5/7.
You can find local and African street walkers on Sukumvit at the junction of Soi3/4.
If you are after Russians / Central Asians try CM2 in Novotel (Very Expensive) or Grace Hotel
I don't live here so my information is a few months old
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1313841]The freelancers at Thermae Cafe were mostly ugly, rundown and nasty.[/QUOTE]Ugly girls at Thermae? Surely not all of them, there's decent talent there. A month ago or two ago I saw who I thought was Brad Childress (ex head coach of the Minnesota Vikings) negotiating with a Thai girl near the entrance of Thermoes. I went up to him to sign an autograph for me and told him I didn't like how he handled the Randy Moss situation. It turned out that it wasn't really him, we had a brief chat and he did say he gets that a lot LOL
[QUOTE=HenryV;1313767]Considering stopping there on my next visit to Bangkok. Anyone care to opine, or provide general info?[/QUOTE]Ok, I'll try again even though you mock me the first time. No hard feelings though hehe.
However, I'll still give ya the cliff note version:
Entrance Fee: 300 baht in the back door and you get a free drink. Free through the front door via restaurant but no free drink.
Music: techno and its loud and quite difficult to have a conversation. Cool lighting, good to dance to if that's your sort of thing.
Girls: 90% freelance hookers, quality is better than Climax, but still mostly average looking girls is par for the course, you'll find decent ones, and of course it will cost you. Maybe 3K for LT at least 2K minimum, but many of them want ST. BTW- this place has a Facebook page, you'll get an idea of what's available and get a good laugh at all the falang posing with their "girlfriends" haha. STcan be found for 1K but lower quality. i did 1k ST and she was ok, but nothing to write home about. I was quite drunk at the time and wasn't aware she was a hooker. I thought I was getting free, after the deed was done she stood there awaiting payment. Mentioned she also had a husband too LOL. Only stunners I saw were the coyote dancers. I'm not sure they're available, I kinda doubt it.
Every taxi and tuk tuk driver I came across were crude liars and cheats.
One showed me a fake NASA I'd, claiming to be NASA's authorized drivers. Street vendors sell all sorts of stupid fake IDs in the tourist area on Khaosan road.
Taxi drivers were going round and round the longest ways for extra money.
Dishonesty is so rampant and blatant in Thailand, unlike most other countries. .
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1313875]First thing you have to do is stop folliwing advices from taxi drivers and tuk tuk.
There are sufficient indications in here, if you RTFF, giving you the right path.
First is to agree with an unknown girl a ST session (and price) on the common understanding it can become a LT (and its price) if she performs well. As long as you also make clear your expectations.[/QUOTE]
This is exactly what I was looking for. I just saved those places for next visit. I could focus on these places for the few nights I am in BKK.
The were not too many good-looking girls in the fish bowls of massage places. I took one of the best looking at Tulip. Her name was Sok, from Cambodia. Her face was average, nice body, but her skin was scarred from the neck down by the many soapies she does everyday. Her soapies were highly erotic, gave them a hard-on quickly. The room was old and grimy with mildew, very run down compared to the new, shiny and spotless sauna rooms in China.
The bars in Nana plaza did not have too many good-looking girls. I picked one, she turned out to be ethnic Chinese, may be late 20's. She took me for a long walk trying to rent a room near Nana.
A taxi drivers near Livingstone Lodge was telling me he could take me to these private houses in Bangkok with young, pretty girls, where local big shots go for sex. He said quality much better than any place along Sukkhumvit. May be he was just bullshitting me, but I should try that option too. He cannot rip me off unless he puts a gun to my head and rob me. .
I forgot the name of the Western cowboy-themed bar where I took a very good-looking girl, the best I had in Thailand. I think the taxi driver asked someone in Livingstone Lodge and was told about that place.
The house girls in LL were too old and thick for my taste. I only like young, nubile girls in good shape with beautiful skin and hair, or I go celibate. .
[QUOTE=Global Surfer; 1313910]In soi Cowboy try Shark, Tilac and Baccarra
Rainbow 4, Carousal in Nana Plaza.
You can find free lancers in BeerGarden in Soi5/7.
You can find local and African street walkers on Sukumvit at the junction of Soi3/4.
If you are after Russians / Central Asians try CM2 in Novotel (Very Expensive) or Grace Hotel
I don't live here so my information is a few months old[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mauldid; 1313872]Just got back from T DED 99 bar in the saphan kwai area. Man, that place is huge. Actually connected to another strip club and the girls rotate between the two bars. Drinks and food was relatively cheap but can add up just like any place else. There had to be at least 60 ladies (strippers and working hostess). The prices are 1800 B (short time) 2800 (long time) to include the barfine and hotel across from the club.
The papasans are not pushy at all; told them I'll look first as I'm drinking my Singha and they left me alone. Looked around for a few hours and finally made my choice. The girls don't even ask for a lady drink, I had to tell them to order something else if they didn't want to drink my beer.
Last call and check bin is at 0300, as I was leaving the hotel, the couples were checking into the hotel. The best time to go is after 1100 because that when more girls show up.
Contrary to previous reports, the area is pretty safe because there is a police station just down the road. Actually there was a cop eating and drinking in the bar, must have been off duty. Mainly Thai customers but it's getting popular with Koreans and Japanese who are tired of the Soi Cowboy and Nana scene. The girls will give you a lap dance as they are sitting with you, however some are shy if you are a foreigner.
Will go back and check out Rainbow next time, heard they got some lookers there.[/QUOTE]I always like hitting the out of the way places, this sounds like fun.
There are two fishbowls out by the airport, they usually have a few cute girls. Sometimes if in the area during the day afternoon and before 4 pm the number of customers is if any is small.
They are basically down the same drive so to speak so if there are no cuties that interest me, walking across to the other is less than a minute from door to door.
Thanks for the report.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1313978]Ugly girls at Thermae? Surely not all of them, there's decent talent there. A month ago or two ago I saw who I thought was Brad Childress (ex head coach of the Minnesota Vikings) negotiating with a Thai girl near the entrance of Thermoes. I went up to him to sign an autograph for me and told him I didn't like how he handled the Randy Moss situation. It turned out that it wasn't really him, we had a brief chat and he did say he gets that a lot LOL[/QUOTE]Thermae last night was most certainly not ugly and nasty, in fact the precise opposite. Unfortunately, many of the outstanding lookers do tend to avoid white guys, but when the selection is large and the client base is small, anything is possible.
Rare to find a decent looking gal there that will go with farang. Did happen to me two years ago. Met a gal in her 30's (so she said) at the bar soon as you come in. Great set of personalities, and a lot of fun.
Nothing since.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1313978]Ugly girls at Thermae? Surely not all of them, there's decent talent there.
[quote=satyr23]what the hell is a cheer guest?[/quote]i think he meant "cheer man."
that's what they call the friendly gents who circulate among the patrons seeking to be of assistance in choosing a girl. in theory this guy knows all about the girls and can see to it that the customer finds exactly what he's looking for, in return for a tip of, say. 200 baht.
i don't know why you need a go-between to find a girl that you think is hot. just peer into the fishbowl, or wander around and check out the sweeties lounging about. and i don't think it's very hard to ask "smoke no condom?" or "boom boom two times?" but the soapies like nataree fancy themselves upscale and i suppose dealing with the cheer man is considered a feature rather than a bug.
bunky
I got a good girl. Quite impressed. Negotiated for 1500. But she was good so I gave her what she originally asked for. A good round and GFE ensued. She wants to meet again. Probably a 7 or 8 with decent tits. She even offered to do neck down pics but I didn't want to in case I got in strife. Great fun all in all. Then later I went over to Soi Cowboy drinking. Satisfied and drunk!
ps.
"Liars and Cheats
Every taxi and tuk tuk driver I came across were crude liars and cheats.
One showed me a fake NASA I'd, claiming to be NASA's authorized drivers. Street vendors sell all sorts of stupid fake IDs in the tourist area on Khaosan road.
Taxi drivers were going round and round the longest ways for extra money.
Dishonesty is so rampant and blatant in Thailand, unlike most other countries. ."
Yeah they are annoying. Especially the fat guy hanging round Soi 7/ Soi 7-1. Every time I went past! What a dick.
[QUOTE=Travel2; 1313576]Hi,
So the place that JUM works at is called "TARNTIP" or what? Are there also other girls working? I guess they were not worth mentioning?
(I will be in BKK soon. Will definitely look her up). What does her body look like? Any tits worth mentioning? .
Thanks for the update.
Does anybody have a phone number for the place, so I can arrange a massage session with her. Since she does not seem to be available all week.[/QUOTE]Visited Tarntip and asked for Jum. Upstairs in the private room she says" how you know my name". I replied I find on internet. She was a combination of shock coyness and excitement,"me on internet". She is a simple yet alluring young girl from the north with a great future in the entertainment business once she becomes a little more experienced. Tries hard but not quite there yet, needs some coaching from a seasoned professionaL. Ambitious she knows some of the girls from Eden next door who visit for a massage and the kind of money they make. I suggested she was too young and inexperienced for what goes on at Eden and the go go's but should try somewhere like Angel where because of her looks she would be an ideal fit especially with their Japanese clientele. In fact anywhere in Thaniya would suit her. Jum in a school uniform complete with pigtails, my imagination runs wild. I did my bit to help along an aspiring novice who while not quite ready for the big stage was precisely for that reason a breath of fresh air. I'm off to buy a school uniform. In answer to your specifics if it's tits you are after no and there are other girls working there but no experience of anybody else. One note of caution, this not a regular "all service" oily. Let me know how you got on.
Some info on Tarntip Massage and Spa from an old post on this forum.
Tarntip Beauty, Massage and Spa.
Sukhumvit Soi 7/1.
Phone: 02-255-1069, 02-251-0291.
Open Everyday 9 to 11pm.
Prices :
Thai massage 250 bht.
Foot massage 250 bht.
Oil massage 300 bht (500 2hr). Add 100 per hour for private room. Recommended.
Aroma Therapy 500 bht.
Facial Treatments 300 bht.
Body Treatments 700 bht.
Hair cut 150 bht.
Sauna 200 bht
[QUOTE=Hatguy;1314242]"Dishonesty is so rampant and blatant in Thailand, [B]unlike most other countries[/B]. ."[/QUOTE]Once you start traveling to South America, you will most likely revise this statement.
Taxi drivers in Argentina, specifically Bs As, are honest to the pennies. Their fares are already very cheap but I have never been cheated. They always make the signs of the cross when driving past churches. .
Brazil's taxi drivers in Rio, Sao Paolo, Fos du Iquazzu etc. Are also honest and fair. I have never been cheated there, but have read of taxi drivers in Rio who kidnap and rob their passengers. Was in Rio during Carnaval a few years back, leaving the Sambaromo with tens of thousands people. The bro I was with insisted that we ignore the taxis and waited half hour for a taxi driven by his relative. .
May be these guys know things about Rio's taxis that I don't. Lucky I am still alive, had lots of fun with many girls in Argentina and Rio, still have my dick and most of my money. Hehehe.
[QUOTE=Ehunter;1314308]Once you start traveling to South America, you will most likely revise this statement.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hatguy; 1314242]I got a good girl. Quite impressed. (.) Satisfied and drunk!
Ps.
"Liars and Cheats.
Every taxi and tuk tuk driver I came across were crude liars and cheats.
One showed me a fake NASA I'd, claiming to be NASA's authorized drivers. Street vendors sell all sorts of stupid fake IDs in the tourist area on Khaosan road.
Taxi drivers were going round and round the longest ways for extra money.
Dishonesty is so rampant and blatant in Thailand, unlike most other countries."
Yeah they are annoying. Especially the fat guy hanging round Soi 7 / Soi 7-1. Every time I went past! What a dick.[/QUOTE]Well done, it's not easy to find good ones in Thermae since the place has been taken over by our friends from dai Nippon.
Concerning dishonesty, as others told you Thailand is not worse than most of other developing countries. Actually if you consider the number of uninformed tourists who visit the country every year, it is surprising how low the cheating rate is. In my experience the vast majority of taxis correctly use the meter, except if you are so naive to get cabs waiting in front of hotels, clubs, etc. Or tuk tuks. About the longest ways, due to the fare structure, taxi drivers are more interested in doing numerous short trips than few long ones.
I've seen generations of street vendors along the Sukhumvit. Since my second trip (14 years ago) I've ignored them and I sleep very well at night.
So, back to serious matters, did this Thermae girl give good head? .
J.
[QUOTE=Ehunter;1314308]Once you start traveling to South America, you will most likely revise this statement.[/QUOTE]I didn't make that statement. Read it again. I was quoting someone else.
[QUOTE=Hatguy;1314358]I didn't make that statement. Read it again. I was quoting someone else.[/QUOTE]Well, when quoting the source is always important. Without a known source you can write almost anything without being personally responsible.
Hi BJ here.
I had actually tried to arrange my Saturday night girl the previous evening but she said she was not working (otherwise known as she had arranged things with another customer) She actually called me Saturday afternoon to ask if I was going to her bar that night which is in SC. I have known her since January and have taken her a lot as the service is exceptionally good. She knows and understands the forums and has asked me not to reveal her details, so I will respect that (sorry guys).
When we got down to business she seemed to be even livelier than usual. I am guessing, but I got the impression she felt a bit guilty about making other arrangements the previous evening. Normally she is not up for any DATY but when the BBBJ started she jumped into the 69 pos which was an unexpected bonus, she really does have an exquisite fanny and didn't even complain when I slipped a wet finger gently in her arse. Her BJ skills cannot be overstated and knowing how much I enjoy it she always gives me head for 25. 30 mins and does an amazing job. Ironically she started the fcuking off in the same position as the Pretty lady girl the previous night with her left leg on the bed and her right bent up at right angles. She wasted no time in getting into some deep thrusts wincing when it went in deep (more to do with her petite 5 feet slender build than anything to do with me). Went straight for doggy next and I never get bored grabbing her tiny waist and staring at her tiny arse. Pounded away at her for about 10 mins then flipped her over and bent her legs up near her ears. After another 10 or 15 mins I had to do her doggy again, love that position! Got lucky at this point because as I was getting her to lay flat on her front I realized the damn condom had ripped (that could have worked out very bad as I could tell the vinegar stroke was just around the corner). By the time I got a new condom out I needed another BJ to help the soldier stand to attention and she happily obliged. This was a good hour into the fcuking and I was getting tired and sweaty so I started long hard thrusts to get the session to a conclusion.
The service from this lady is always exemplary and I will be going back for her as soon as I can. The only problem being that the opening of the new place Dr BJ's Nuru is only around the corner so time is short as well as the Bank balance from paying to open the place. On a good note, we already have a large set of bookings for the opening day 15/08/2012 which was much better than when we opened the Salon.
More later.
[QUOTE=Dr BJ;1314418]Ironically she started the fcuking off .... This was a good hour into the fcuking ....,More later.[/QUOTE]BJ,
As you are consistently spelling "fucking" wrongly, I assume its no accident. If you are really embarrsed to use this word, you could choose another like boom-boom, but really "fucking" is allowed on a monger's forum.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1314446]BJ,
As you are consistently spelling "fucking" wrongly, I assume its no accident. If you are really embarrsed to use this word, you could choose another like boom-boom, but really "fucking" is allowed on a monger's forum.[/QUOTE]What are you? An English professor? The guy contributed and made a decent report.
Who the Fcu cares.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1314451]What are you? An English professor? The guy contributed and made a decent report.
Who the Fcu cares.[/QUOTE]Yes, a decent report, despite not naming the bar, and I merely point out that "fucking" is allowed. Jackson likes people to write English as best they can. I actually write weak English but am not afraid to "fuck".
[QUOTE=Nestor X;1314364]Well, when quoting the source is always important. Without a known source you can write almost anything without being personally responsible.[/QUOTE]Look at the inverted commas I used. If you can't understand from that. Don't think it asks too much! Why do people like these come on here and make dumb comments like this? How is that even a report?
Night-day bar has some nice talent. I'd even say some 7s or 8s. Would repeat there myself next time. Golden (nana hotel) also. Some lower quality but fun girls. I was too drunk to take from there so am only suggesting fun in the sense that they talk the talk.
If you want semi decent live rock: Hillary 2.
Now there's some ideas for readers. Report!
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1314446]BJ,
As you are consistently spelling "fucking" wrongly, I assume its no accident. If you are really embarrsed to use this word, you could choose another like boom-boom, but really "fucking" is allowed on a monger's forum.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Syzygies;1314446]I actually write weak English ...[/QUOTE]Since your English is weak you're probably not embarrass that you can't spell that embarrassing word. You could use a smaller word like "shame" which essentially means the same thing. We could make these silly corrections on many posts but why bother? Yes fucking is allowed here and is done with one but you don't have to be a dick.
[QUOTE=Hatguy;1314471]Look at the inverted commas I used. If you can't understand from that. Don't think it asks too much! Why do people like these come on here and make dumb comments like this? How is that even a report?[/QUOTE]Actually Nestor X's comment is not that dumb. He points out you are using the incorrect technique to quote someone. He originally responded to the text in your report, quite inocently, indicating that other countries have similar dishonest practices. Is that a big problem? You did not appear to be disagreeing with what you quoted. He used the normal techinique to Quote someone so can hardly be blamed for not noticing your quote marks with meaning that was unclear.
[QUOTE=Run Mann;1314479]Since your English is weak you're probably not embarrass that you can't spell that embarrassing word. You could use a smaller word like "shame" which essentially means the same thing. We could make these silly corrections on many posts but why bother? Yes fucking is allowed here and is done with one but you don't have to be a dick.[/QUOTE]We all make mistakes, especially "typos" and poor grammar, but I don't misspell words on purpose. Dr BJ may have thought certain words were banned on this forum.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1314486]We all make msitakes.[/QUOTE]Obviously, like the "mistake" above but in case you missed it many members here spell fcuk the way BJ does. Members who take time to write field reports should not have the ISG grammar and spelling police on their case for issues like that, they should be appreciated.
Thank you, I will take your impudent advice (just mocking you. Hehe).
Appreciate the info.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1313987]Ok, I'll try again even though you mock me the first time. No hard feelings though hehe.
However, I'll still give ya the cliff note version:
Entrance Fee: 300 baht in the back door and you get a free drink. Free through the front door via restaurant but no free drink.
The
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1314451]What are you? An English professor? The guy contributed and made a decent report.
Who the Fcu cares.[/QUOTE]I don't care much about the spelling too. I agree it is a well written Fuck Report, but with no disrespect to Dr. BJ, it does not help much on ISG. It can confirm one can get the fuck of the day by picking up a girl from a bar is SC. Nothing more. I agree YMMV and that diamond can be cheap glass on somebody's else bed, or the other way round.
But with no indications of any kind (bar, number of girl, price paid) the report is more a nice novel for for Penthouse. Still enjoyable to read, don't take me wrong.
[QUOTE=Seaham1900;1314304]Visited Tarntip and asked for Jum. Upstairs in the private room she says" how you know my name". I replied I find on internet. She was a combination of shock coyness and excitement,"me on internet".[/QUOTE]Would have been wiser to mention "I heard about you through some friends who has been here." never good to mention Internet to these girls. They feel their photo, name, description and services will be on every single light pole back in their village. Un-necessary scare.
[QUOTE=Run Mann;1314490]Obviously, like the "mistake" above but in case you missed it many members here spell fcuk the way BJ does. Members who take time to write field reports should not have the ISG grammar and spelling police on their case for issues like that, they should be appreciated.[/QUOTE]LOL, thank's for your support Run Mann. I am slightly baffled why someone would focus on the way I spell fcuk or FUCK, (there I said it).
More relevant is the question about identification and cost, all I am prepared to reveal is the bar is Baccara. If you read the report in full the lady referred to reads the forums I write on, she knew about them the first time I met her I. E she didn't hear about them from me. I think the fewer bar girls who read forums the better for all of us.
I have had about 9 or 10 different girls from Baccara and have always been very happy with their attitude and performance, but this girl tops them all. Some of them do that stupid baby crying thing when I slip it in like in Japanese porn films, probably due to the high number of Jap clients they get. Doesn't work for me TBH.
Anyway drinks and bar fine came to Between 1, 500 and 2, 000 baht, ST was 2, 000 (but she always stays for about 3-4 hours, especially if it is late on and some times gives me 2 sessions). I always tip her 500 baht and sometimes take her out for late night food, usually around Soi 4. Before anyone criticizes me for "blowing" over 4, 000 baht on a single night out I firmly believe in freedom of choice. I have been told, by her, some Japanese customers rack up bar bills of 20, 000 baht (a lot of LD's) then bar fine 5 girls and take them for a meal, then go home alone, well it's their money at the end of the day so if that is considered a good night out for them who am I to criticize?
Regards.
BJ
[QUOTE=Dr BJ;1314840]LOL, thank's for your support Run Mann. I am slightly baffled why someone would focus on the way I spell fcuk or FUCK, (there I said it).[/QUOTE]Seems there some readers / posters of this forum that have fucked all they ever will, and as a result of that, have undertaken the practice of critiquing every report some one writes, whether it be price paid, pussy selection, place the said deed occurred.
I'm thinking the new slogan ought to be, FUCK MORE COMPLAIN LESS!
Or just continue picking fly shit of of the pepper flakes, Since the pussy reports are very infrequent.
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1314840]LOL, thank's for your support Run Mann. I am slightly baffled why someone would focus on the way I spell fcuk or FUCK, (there I said it).
BJ[/QUOTE]Sure! You must be a real gentleman as most others here would have told him to fcuk off but criticisms and complaining is a way of life on this board. You do seem to be living it up and enjoying the good life so keep it up.
Dr BJ.
I've met you and my impression was favourable. Good bloke despite being Scottish! LOL! But seriously, once your reputation grows these petty attacks will be quelled by the board members and others that know you. Fcuk worrying about it mate!
I look forward to my next BKK trip to try your new place.
Hatguy
ps. In regards to my previous post... inverted commas are perfectly normal and acceptable. Thank you get much.
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1314840]I have had about 9 or 10 different girls from Baccara and have always been very happy with their attitude and performance, but this girl tops them all.
Anyway drinks and bar fine came to Between 1, 500 and 2, 000 baht, ST was 2, 000 (but she always stays for about 3-4 hours, especially if it is late on and sometimes gives me 2 sessions). I always tip her 500 baht and sometimes take her out for late night food, usually around Soi 4. Before anyone criticizes me for "blowing" over 4, 000 baht on a single night out I firmly believe in freedom of choice.
BJ[/QUOTE]Great report Dr BJ. Perhaps one day our paths will cross. Your experience echoes my own at Baccara. It is my experience that very few Baccara girls go back to the bar and get back on stage looking for another customer after doing a ST session with me. I choose my girls wisely only after they have passed a one drink audition. I always treat them nice and with respect. I am never drunk.
Most of my Baccara girls show no hurry to go back to the bar and are perfectly happy to relax in my suite, watch some TV, or go out for a late night dinner, or go barhopping with me to some bars including Baccara for drinks and some entertainment. Very rarely has a girl left me after sex. Most seem very happy to earn 2000bt plus tip and their cut from the barfine and drinks. Although not written in stone, Baccara ST usually means one pop and then hang out as long as I want short of a sleepover. LT means spending the night and multiple sessions. Many nights I have had girls stay 3 or 4 hours and then upon release get in a Taxi and go home. Treat them nice.
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1314840]More relevant is the question about identification and cost, all I am prepared to reveal is the bar is Baccara. If you read the report in full the lady referred to reads the forums I write on, she knew about them the first time I met her I. E she didn't hear about them from me. I think the fewer bar girls who read forums the better for all of us.BJ[/QUOTE] I can understand where you are coming from, but since establishments like Annie's, that you know very well, proudly put signs in the rooms about being an ISG (and not only) recommended soapie, it is difficult to keep it secret to the girls. Word of mouth from girl to girl, seen also they move from one place to the other, will do the rest. I personally never refer to the girls about ISG knowledge, but rather mention "I know about (something) because I do my homework, I had friends telling me, have experience". This also make your standing toward the WG different as there are less chances they can take advantage of you in cheating. On a personal basis, for each one of us, it is also recommended to post experiences not in their aftermath, as then the "I know who this guy is" factor steps in, as they will surely remember the guy of last night (less if he is a guy of few weeks a go, Since in the meantime some other guys have been in between (their legs). Unless one plans repeats with the same girl, as happy, and wants to gain points.
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1314840]I have had about 9 or 10 different girls from Baccara and have always been very happy with their attitude and performance, but this girl tops them all. Some of them do that stupid baby crying thing when I slip it in like in Japanese porn films, probably due to the high number of Jap clients they get. Doesn't work for me TBH.[/QUOTE] Since I never tried a Japanese girl (be her a WG or a straight nampa freebie), I have always been curious to know if that "baby crying" action, that in AV starts a few seconds after just touching any sensible part of their bodies, is normal, real and natural with Japanese girls, be them WG or whatever) I know we all have to discount the acting and fakeness of porn video, but as it seems a 100% standard and consistency, that you do not find in non japanese AV, I am wondering whether there is some link to reality, ie they actually do this, or part of it, in real life. I know I should post this in Japanese forum, but since DrBJ mentions it here I out the question in case somebody here has Japanese experiences about.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1314874]Another myth. I don't think the farangs that barfine from Rainbow 4 are getting discounts. They are paying what the JAPANESE pay. I've notice a lot more farangs frequenting R 4 than in years past.
Maybe it just took them a 100 years to find out that 2k short time is not outrageos price. LOL[/QUOTE]I used to barfine girls out of there for 1k-1. 5k ST. I don't go there anymore because the girls are older and uglier than before.
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1314840]LOL, thank's for your support Run Mann. I am slightly baffled why someone would focus on the way I spell fcuk or FUCK, (there I said it).
More relevant is the question about identification and cost, all I am prepared to reveal is the bar is Baccara. If you read the report in full the lady referred to reads the forums I write on, she knew about them the first time I met her I. E she didn't hear about them from me. I think the fewer bar girls who read forums the better for all of us.
I have had about 9 or 10 different girls from Baccara and have always been very happy with their attitude and performance, but this girl tops them all. Some of them do that stupid baby crying thing when I slip it in like in Japanese porn films, probably due to the high number of Jap clients they get. Doesn't work for me TBH.
Anyway drinks and bar fine came to Between 1, 500 and 2, 000 baht, ST was 2, 000 (but she always stays for about 3-4 hours, especially if it is late on and some times gives me 2 sessions). I always tip her 500 baht and sometimes take her out for late night food, usually around Soi 4. Before anyone criticizes me for "blowing" over 4, 000 baht on a single night out I firmly believe in freedom of choice. I have been told, by her, some Japanese customers rack up bar bills of 20, 000 baht (a lot of LD's) then bar fine 5 girls and take them for a meal, then go home alone, well it's their money at the end of the day so if that is considered a good night out for them who am I to criticize?
Regards.
BJ[/QUOTE]One of the better reports I've read in a long time. Thanks for providing a detailed price breakdown (the most important info for mongers).
[quote=oldian;1313884]damn. 4 hours! did you manage to read half of war and peace during that time? maybe i'll bring my laptop in next time i go to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and just get some work done while getting an endless hummer.[/quote]the tantric arts would be more up my alley for reading or breeding material. but i'm sure the vast majority of isg readers don't even know what that is.
for intensity, though, i'd much prefer 4 hours eating my "back pussy", as borat called it, to a 4 hour bbbj. however, while simultaneously masturbating, the degree of difficulty of the former is considerably higher. although i find a joint bbbj & anal hand massage by a lady is significantly more pleasurable than a plain bbbj. it can also be a useful alternative if her tongue gets tired.
i think it extremely unlikely you'ld find such offerings at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] or dr bj's. my experiences are with freelancers.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1315187]DR BJ can be such a valuable resource here yet all he does is say how great thai girl love him. LOL.
Give us some insight in the thai sex industry.[/QUOTE]You are correct, if you look back at all my previous reports I stated how all the girls fell madly in love with me. Because? I'm SCOTTISH!
Regards.
BJ
[QUOTE]Since I never tried a Japanese girl (be her a WG or a straight nampa freebie) , I have always been curious to know if that "baby crying" action, that in AV starts a few seconds after just touching any sensible part of their bodies, is normal, real and natural with Japanese girls, be them WG or whatever) I know we all have to discount the acting and fakeness of porn video, but as it seems a 100% standard and consistency, that you do not find in non japanese AV, I am wondering whether there is some link to reality, ie they actually do this, or part of it, in real life. I know I should post this in Japanese forum, but since DrBJ mentions it here I out the question in case somebody here has Japanese experiences about.[/QUOTE]This is only conjecture. After a few Baccara girls made those strange baby crying noises when I started having sex (penetration) with them I think Japanese women do it as well which is why it has permeated into their porn films. I didn't realize why the Baccara girls were doing it until I watched Japanese porn and saw the girls on there doing it, so I assume the Baccara girls do it because it turns their customers on and through force of habit continue to do it with westerners.
Regards.
BJ
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1315168]Since I never tried a Japanese girl (be her a WG or a straight nampa freebie), I have always been curious to know if that "baby crying" action, that in AV starts a few seconds after just touching any sensible part of their bodies, is normal, real and natural with Japanese girls, be them WG or whatever) I know we all have to discount the acting and fakeness of porn video, but as it seems a 100% standard and consistency, that you do not find in non japanese AV, I am wondering whether there is some link to reality, ie they actually do this, or part of it, in real life. I know I should post this in Japanese forum, but since DrBJ mentions it here I out the question in case somebody here has Japanese experiences about.[/QUOTE]Non of the Japanese women (all nonpros) that I have been with have ever done it. As a matter of fact I knew nothing of it until I read it here a couple of months ago. Maybe it is a porn and / or P4P thing.
Hello everyone,
I am visiting Bangkok on the 23rd of this month (will be around for 4-5 days so if anyone is up for a beer let me know) and have this lovely thai girl keen to meet me. I have to thank you people in the forum for all the great ideas and reports as they have been inspirational and may pay off soon. So, this is how I went about it:
- registered on thailovelinks (idea I got from a fellow monger here in the forum. Sorry, can't remember who it was so general thanks)
- paid for gold subscription (30 euros for 1 month)
- and here we go: some emails, love interest bla bla and 2 or 3 replies (I am sure I would get more if I added a picture to my profile but don't really want my gorgeous looks out there)
- one date. She wants to meet (is a bit too jealous though but that seems to be normal going by what I read in the forum) and keeps asking me where I want to go when in BKK. So many beautiful places to visit; monuments, historical sites etc etc. Of course, I am interested in culture but priority will certainly be given to some deep immersion as this is my first ever visit to Thailand.
Again going by the many reports I read, she is probably from Issai (flat nose, thick lips, darkish skin) but seems quite pretty (video calling on skype makes her nicer looking than the pictures).
I am sort of a nice guy (unless someone pisses me off) and think we will get on well. At the same time, I don't really want her to think I am a cash cow.
This is where I need as much "local culture" advice as I can: the plan is obvious to have some hot sex with the girl; hopefully have a couple of nice meals and more sex. What would be normal for me to pay without her thinking I am her sponsor or (even worst) thinking I am trying to buy her?
She keeps telling me how hard she works in this financial job and how proud she is of it so she does not seem to be WG (of course, this could all be a bunch of BS).
Help help!
Many thanks,
MV
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1315168]it is difficult to keep it secret to the girls.[/QUOTE]Does it really matter? 80% of the girls can't speak English well enough to understand the forums. The 15% who can speak decent English won't be bothered reading ISG for hours each week. The 1% that is really motivated would, in a quest to maximize their gains. Those are the ones who will do the best and get several sponsors, cars and apartments bought for them, etc. They would find the forums on their own anyway.
You could open an internet cafe on the ground floor of Nana with 20 laptops opened to ISG, free access to working girls, it wouldn't change anything. All the girls would pass right by it on their way to Insomnia.
[QUOTE=Dr BJ;1315247]so I assume the Baccara girls do it because it turns their customers on and through force of habit continue to do it with westerners.[/QUOTE]You are correct! They do anything to please the Japs (including not laughing at their dick size) to keep them overpaying. Japs are the most pathetic of mongers and the thais love to exploit them.
PS. Thai girls by nature do not make that noise. It's a learned act.
[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1315281]You are correct! They do anything to please the Japs (including not laughing at their dick size) to keep them overpaying. Japs are the most pathetic of mongers and the thais love to exploit them.
PS. Thai girls by nature do not make that noise. It's a learned act.[/QUOTE]I dated a Chinese cutie for a few years. She made that made those noises. At times it was ok at times it was "shut the fuck up."
Is there a time of year that there are more Japs. I think planning around them might do a budget good.
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1315281]PS. Thai girls by nature do not make that noise. It's a learned act.[/QUOTE]They do! But only if your dick is smaller than 5 inches, which is why we never heard these noises first hand LOL
[QUOTE=SimonHeSays; 1315292]I dated a Chinese cutie for a few years. She made that made those noises. At times it was ok at times it was "shut the fuck up."
Is there a time of year that there are more Japs. I think planning around them might do a budget good.[/QUOTE]Of all the Chinese girls I have dated two of them were real screamers. So much so it could be screaming murder whenever I screwed them or touched sensitive parts.
No amount of me telling them could make their noise less.
In the hotel the neighbouring rooms resorted to raising their tv volume to a cresondo to drown out her noise. Forget about making out in any public places. Even kissing drove them wild and making noises.
Once I took one of the girls on yangtze cruise and had to cover mouth since tha cabins did not offer much privacy.
Can only offer from previous experience, but far from an expert on the baby crying.
I was in Japan many years ago and nothing like that happened. Only got layed 4 times during the week so limited occurances. Also had one form Baccara 2 years ago and again nothng like that. Maybe just reserved for Japanese clients. Still, I would like to hear others opinions. Will be in town in November and depending on who I pick will let others know if the baby crying is part of the program.
I see you just exercising common sense. If you find one you like who gives good service, and is fun to be with, treat her a little better. It may pay dividends on that night you cannot get lucky and wind up seeking her out.
A lesson I should learn.
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1314840]LOL, thank's for your support Run Mann. I am slightly baffled why someone would focus on the way I spell fcuk or FUCK, (there I said it).
Before anyone criticizes me for "blowing" over 4, 000 baht on a single night out I firmly believe in freedom of choice. I have been told, by her, some Japanese customers rack up bar bills of 20, 000 baht (a lot of LD's) then bar fine 5 girls and take them for a meal, then go home alone, well it's their money at the end of the day so if that is considered a good night out for them who am I to criticize?
Regards.
BJ[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Franciscass;1315519]I enjoy reading Dr. BJ's posts, well written and entertaining but I'm also a little confused. This is somebody who has lots of girls working for him, who presumably meets new girls on a daily basis and yet he writes as if he is a regular punter around town. True there is the well worn mantra of not shi*ing on your own doorstep but one cannot help getting the impression that his posts are somewhat selfserving. He never seems to have anything other than amazing sex where the girls are happy to spend as much time with him as he wants never wanting to leave and all that for what seems below normal pricing. I don't know the man and so should not cast aspersions without proof but I've been living in Bangkok for 10 years actively enjoy all aspects of the P4P scene and consequently my gut tells me that somehow it's never that good all the time. If his posts are selfserving then it's working, here I am adding to the conversation.[/QUOTE]I am thrilled you enjoy my post's. As for your confusion you kinda answered your own question and no, I do not "sample" any of the ladies who work in the salon. Selfserving? Perhaps I have misunderstood the forum but I was under the impression you are supposed to write about your sexual encounters, good and bad, to give other people a heads up. Especially first timers in Bangkok. If you read through my posts the only girls who spend more than average time with me are from Baccara, especially my regular. I have posted, honestly, when I have had bad encounters and always because I had drunk too much, either that night or the night before. To save sifting through my post's here are a couple of links so you can go directly to my post's where I reported I didn't have "amazing sex"
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2677-Bangkok-Reports&p=1226417#post1226417[/url]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=1228596#post1228596[/url]
Now I'm confused regarding the remark about "below normal pricing" I have never paid less than 2, 000 baht ST and 4, 000 baht LT. Isn't that the going rate? I have only lived here for just under 2 years and I don't know what your conception of "a regular punter around town" is, but I will bow to your superior knowledge and experience. Just for the record I only go mongering about every 2 weeks and due to the new NURU place opened today (Soi 7/1) I haven't found the time to be out for 3 weeks now. On that basis I fully intend to rectify the situation this weekend.
Regards.
BJ
It's all good to read posts about a guy who picks up a girl from whatever venue then pays her and has great GFE sex. But unfortunately, without any sort of conflict it can be very boring. Kinda like going to watch The Dark Knight Rises and Batman beats the crap out of Bane, all the cops arrest the thugs, and then Batman fucks Catwoman in the ass. THE END
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1315592]I have never paid less than 2, 000 baht ST and 4, 000 baht LT. Isn't that the going rate?
Regards.
BJ[/QUOTE]Fookin high roller tryin' to pass for Scottish
I forgot who said it, I'm too lazy to look back. But it is quite possible to go to nana / cowboy with plenty of money to spend and come home empty handed. It happens to me all the time.
[QUOTE=Dr BJ;1315592]Now I'm confused regarding the remark about "below normal pricing" I have never paid less than 2, 000 baht ST and 4, 000 baht LT. Isn't that the going rate?[/QUOTE]Have you ever negotiated? If not, then you just fit in with the other newbie tourists and Japs who walk through the bars like sheep waiting to be slaughtered. Unfortunatley, these types are the majority nowadays. Thais love to stick it to you whenever they can!
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;1315650]Fookin high roller tryin' to pass for Scottish[/QUOTE]LOL, should have given that post more thought before submitting it. Actually to quantify, the 2k ST and 4k LT were go-go prices. I have done 2 street walkers and a few from the lower Soi beer bars in Pattaya and paid 1, 000 ST.
Regards.
BJ
I've fucked at least a dozen non-p4p Japanese girls, and indeed many of them do make the noises described here. More than a few Koreans do too. It probably depends if they're used to fucking Japanese guys or foreigners, their influences, etc. A few Japanese girls I asked about it and one Korean told me "You're not supposed to show that you enjoy sex or the guy will think you are a working girl." That goes along with all the Japanese and Korean girls who told me "I don't trim my pussy hair because all the grandmas in the hot spring will think I'm a prostitute."
First round completed:
- flights booked;
- 3 nights at Dream Hotel plus a couple more at the Royal Orchid Sheraton.
- date booked with a Thai girl I met on a dating site and who wants to take me to Pattaya or Ayutthaya. She says we can either go just for the day (in her car) or stay for the night. Sounds promising.
- Gold escort booked. Review will be forthcoming.
- List of places (Dr. BJ; Soapies, Oilies, some FL areas, Tulip / Mango)
First promises made:
- beat record of number of daily shoot.
- take the thai date up the arse. I know it may take some work but hey that's what make it worth even seeing her.
- beat the crap out (in the good sense) out of the Gold girl.
- avoid lady boys. How the hell do you recognise them?
- report my adventures here (as live as possible)
Wish me luck and if anyone is around from the 23rd until the 27th of August and wants to meet please drop me a note. Would be more than happy to buy a couple of beers.
Bangkok here I go.
MV
[QUOTE=Oidar;1315655]I forgot who said it, I'm too lazy to look back. But it is quite possible to go to nana / cowboy with plenty of money to spend and come home empty handed. It happens to me all the time.[/QUOTE]That's very common and can happen for a lot of Different reasons, like the girl you want is barfined already, does not go with customers, asks for outrageous prices or you don't find anything you like, are too drunk to get horny. So many options LOL
[QUOTE=MecumVeni; 1315254]Hello everyone,
I am visiting Bangkok on the 23rd of this month (will be around for 4-5 days so if anyone is up for a beer let me know) and have this lovely thai girl keen to meet me. I have to thank you people in the forum for all the great ideas and reports as they have been inspirational and may pay off soon. So, this is how I went about it.
MV[/QUOTE]4-5 days in BKK and you plan to spend them with one only girl you met through the net, I might sound rude, but it is nonsense. If you ever go skiing in your home country, do bring some snow along to the ski sloop. Pretty much the same of what you are going to do in BKK. We anxiously wait for your trip report. Cheers.
The last night before I left I did yet another bar crawl on Soi Cowboy. Much easier done alone for me and I walked up to Baccara and had a beer. Upstairs looked interesting. Stuck around there for half an hour. Then as it was getting pretty late I thought I'd go home. Got to just in front of Sahara and saw a girl I liked the look of.
She took me in and I ordered a drink. She asked for one too and I said sure. She had to go dance and asked me to bring her drink over to the podium. That's when I noticed there were two drinks there for her. WTF! I decided to get along as it was about 2am and asked for the check. 620 baht! Told the waitress I would pay for one lady drink only. Her response was TALK TO THE GIRL YOU BOUGHT IT FOR. I motioned for her to come over but she was telling me to wait for her to finish dancing. WTF! She tried to scam me with double lady drink and then I'm supposed to wait? Fuck off! I said even louder CHECK PLEASE and she finally came down off the stage and I told her I was paying for ONE not TWO. Much discussion took place and finally a check came which I was happy with. After that I went up to the offending girl and told her not to double up on drinks!
So anyway, WARNING! Always say ONE LADY DRINK ONLY. And if they do it anyway insist on paying for one drink. If they do do it to you like the one I had you know who NOT to bar fine.
This topic reminds me of the girl I spent the first 2 days with this time. We had met before and hit it off well. Reunion screwing was great and I bought her a few things she asked for which she needed while staying. Shampoo and stuff like that. No problems. The first night we hit Soi Cowboy and Shadow bar / Country road. Lots of fun. I noticed that whenever my beer was lower in level than hers that she would switch them. The first few times was fine but after the 4th time or so it started to annoy me. So I told her not to do it. She just laughed and kept it up.
The next night her cousin came around and they both wanted to go to Insomnia. FINE so I paid for both her and her cousin plus myself. Enormous club but expensive as hell. I was not too impressed with their prices at all. But YET AGAIN my girl is doing the switching thing. I go to the toilet and come back and she's switched them! Lipstick on my beer bottle! So I asked her if she did it again. Laughter is all I get. I walked off and stood at a different part of the club. Then decided FUCK THIS and left. I was staying on Soi 19 so no majors at all for me to get home.
I was so pissed off and drunk that I told my hotel security to keep her out. I don't know what time it was but about 3 am she starts pounding on the door. Because I still had her stuff there I let her in. She was in a state and telling me it was my fault and blah blah blah. She calmed down but I decided then and there she had to go. Next morning I told her I needed a break from her antics. She said "I NOT GO HOME I STAY HERE YOU" or something like that. Told her she would go no matter what. Some sort of stand off ensued. In the end I had to threaten security to get her out the door.
What the fuck! Everything was going great until the two girls did that shit. Why would they bother doing this sort of stuff? It is just puzzling! It is like the two of them have no idea about how to play it so they can get the maximum money out of you. Rather, nickle and diming you on stupid shit.
ps. I dont have the name of the Sahara girl. Sorry.
[QUOTE=Hatguy; 1315873]What the fuck! Everything was going great until the two girls did that shit. Why would they bother doing this sort of stuff? It is just puzzling! It is like the two of them have no idea about how to play it so they can get the maximum money out of you. Rather, nickle and diming you on stupid shit.
Ps. I don't have the name of the Sahara girl. Sorry.[/QUOTE]I think of it as you are in the LOS, chill a bit and enjoy!
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[QUOTE=Hatguy;1315873]She took me in and I ordered a drink. She asked for one too and I said sure. She had to go dance and asked me to bring her drink over to the podium. That's when I noticed there were two drinks there for her. WTF! I decided to get along as it was about 2am and asked for the check. 620 baht! Told the waitress I would pay for one lady drink only. Her response was TALK TO THE GIRL YOU BOUGHT IT FOR. I motioned for her to come over but she was telling me to wait for her to finish dancing. WTF![/QUOTE]LOL. I told you rich guys about buying all those lady drinks and caking those hoars. But as everyone says, the more you spend the more fun you have. So I'm not hating.
[QUOTE=Hatguy;1315873]The next night her cousin came around and they both wanted to go to Insomnia. FINE so I paid for both her and her cousin plus myself. Enormous club but expensive as hell. I was not too impressed with their prices at all. But YET AGAIN my girl is doing the switching thing. I go to the toilet and come back and she's switched them![/QUOTE]You should change your handle to Noah, taking them 2 at a time. It's not always double the fun. It can be double the trouble as well. Especially when she knew she could make her cousin laugh at the beer switch.
[QUOTE=Hatguy;1315873]I was so pissed off and drunk that I told my hotel security to keep her out. I don't know what time it was but about 3 am she starts pounding on the door.[/QUOTE]Did you tell him or did you tell him while passing him 100 baht? It makes all the difference in the world. Better luck next time brother. I know you had to get that off your chest.
Cheap Charlies Rule! Or at least we save more money.
[QUOTE=MecumVeni;1315710]- date booked with a Thai girl I met on a dating site and who wants to take me to Pattaya or Ayutthaya. She says we can either go just for the day (in her car) or stay for the night. Sounds promising.[/QUOTE]Way to go man!
That is how I met my Thai GF and I haven't regretted it for a moment.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1315937]LOL. I told you rich guys about buying all those lady drinks and caking those hoars. But as everyone says, the more you spend the more fun you have. So I'm not hating.
You should change your handle to Noah, taking them 2 at a time. It's not always double the fun. It can be double the trouble as well. Especially when she knew she could make her cousin laugh at the beer switch.
Did you tell him or did you tell him while passing him 100 baht? It makes all the difference in the world. Better luck next time brother. I know you had to get that off your chest.
Cheap Charlies Rule! Or at least we save more money.[/QUOTE]Yes I did have to get it off my chest! And yes I was a cheap bastard this time. But I learned a valuable lesson: drink in the bars but no bar fines and just go to the MPs in the morning or at lunch time for funking. And don't let same girl stay with you for too long! She starts to get ideas.
I think the best gogo in the NANA / SOI COWBOY area would have to be Rainbow 4. A close 2nd to Dollhouse. These two had good line ups. Like I said I went through a bunch and YMMV but in my eyes these were the only two I would consider barfining girls at. At Rainbow 4 I was offered 2k ST + 600 BF + 300 Room. Thought about it but 1900 at a MP all inclusive much better!
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1315808]4-5 days in BKK and you plan to spend them with one only girl you met through the net, I might sound rude, but it is nonsense. If you ever go skiing in your home country, do bring some snow along to the ski sloop. Pretty much the same of what you are going to do in BKK. We anxiously wait for your trip report. Cheers.[/QUOTE]I totally agree and I certainly don't plan to spend that much time with her. Unless it turns to be one of those things you can't walk away from hehe.
She thinks I am only there for 2 days with the option to extend; it is like negotiating ST with option to go LT is the service is top notch right?
If you see my other post, you will notice I actually have some grand plans for my stay in BKK.
Thanks for the heads up anyway. For a few seconds I almost made the mistake of telling her how many days I was actually going to stay there for.
[QUOTE=Franciscass; 1315898]Even more confused, you say on the 15th you haven't been mongering for the past three weeks yet you posted on the 12th which was a Sunday describing what happened on the Saturday. True you didn't say which Saturday but it seems unusual for a contributor like yourself to wait at least two weeks possibly three before sharing your latest exploits. Hell I can't remember who I shagged a week ago never mind two or three weeks ago.
It seems pretty clear to me that the purpose of your posts is self promotion of your business and I congratulate on your obvious success
Some examples on how you slip in references.
"The fact that the Salon has been getting more popular"
"Another shop in the Dr BJ's chain is due to open mid-August, so putting it all together means no sleep. After the new shop opening, we are looking for a following one in the next 3 months, if all goes to plan. All these will be in Bangkok and they will not be a Salon. A further salon is due in Pattaya
"The only problem being that the opening of the new place Dr BJ's Nuru is only around the corner ".
"On a good note, we already have a large set of bookings for the opening day 15/08/2012 which was much better than when we opened the Salon".
Who books a blow job in advance in a shop that has not opened.
On what your posts should be about, info on where to go and what it costs you are informative but that is of little use if you don't mention who with.
"She knows and understands the forums and has asked me not to reveal her details, so I will respect that (sorry guys)".
She is the business to make money what is wrong with more potential customers knowing about her. I visit oilies mostly and most girls love being mentioned on forums.
Finally most of your posts are taken up with gratuitous details of what a great performer you are
"This was a good hour into the fcuking."
"The whole session lasted about 2 hours and she was exhausted by the time I finished."
"She said she lost count of the number of times she had cum during the whole session, good for you I thought."
Personally I couldn't give a fiddler's f*k whether anything you post is true I will leave that up to the intelligence of the readers but personally I am not convinced. Incidentally good luck with the new shop[/QUOTE]Ho Hum! The post on the Sunday referred to 2 weeks previously. I said in another post I only go out roughly every 2 weeks and have a very good memory so therefore it is very easy for me to recall all the details. I've had this self promotion stuff before, it is possible to list all my post's and you will find there are very few referring to the salon, only when there has been some relevant information to divulge. I could post under 2 separate names but I feel honesty is the best policy, so I don't.
No one booked a blow-job in advance for the new place because it is a NURU massage place not a blow-job bar. No one in their right mind would open 2 places close together offering the same service. The lady from Baccara is the only girl I have not identified, at her request. All my other reports give at least the girls number and more often than not her name as well. As to why this lady does not want me to identify her you would have to ask her, OOPS you can't. Oh well never mind."Great performer"? Well you are the first person (actually the second the first was wolf hound and he either gave up or got banned) to level that criticism at me, but it's OK being Scottish I am fairly thick skinned. All my sessions last about 2 hours and yes the intercourse part does last roughly an hour.
The vast majority of the other readers, I'm sure, not only find my post's believable but also informative and entertaining. I'm very confident neither you or me need lose any sleep about the intelligence of the other readers. At the end of the day more than 97% of other readers who do comment on my post's do so in a complimentary manner. There is a facility on this forum to filter out someones post's, why not use it? Clearly the content of my post's is upsetting you, otherwise you would not take so much time to negatively respond to them. I am actually looking forward to the day when you post a field report of your own, as opposed to limiting yourself to sniping at other peoples.
Regards.
BJ
Went with this girl from Shark a couple of times a month ago. Working name Moorena no. 26. Amazing in bed, greatest pair of tits and fantastic BJ. Glad I didn't upset her and there were no knives around. Phew a close shave!
[url]http://www.pattayadailynews.com/en/2012/08/16/soi-cowboy-bargirl-kills-co-worker-in-drug-rage/[/url]
Does this Dr BJ fella make cameo appearances and give out BJs himself? LOL.
His screen name would suggest that he does. Maybe pick up the slack when things are busy haha
was around Soi 11 today and saw about 5-6 Indians heckling one of the massage girls outside.. Kept saying you do boom boom?! I've never seen such childish behavior exhibited by adults.. NO wonder the Thai girls have no love for these clowns..
I'm in BKK in spetember fro 5 days. I'm staying in Sukhumvit. Grand Millennium hotel, just in front of SOI COWBOY. What prices are tehre and in NANA for a ST / LT girl (barfine)?
Or is still beter to find a girl on dating site?
Kind Regatrd and thanks to all for replying me!
A Soi Cowboy bargirl stabbed her co-worker to death in a drug-induced rage, after they got into a fight while getting high on 'ice' in their Bangkok apartment. They hadapparently argued about boyfriends, when the dispute turned violent and deadly.
I went with her a month ago, amazing breasts and blow job. Moorena no. 26 Shark.
Thank god I didn't upset her or there were no knives around, it would have been a close shave!
[QUOTE=Dr BJ;1316020]No one in their right mind would open 2 places close together offering the same service. Regards.BJ[/QUOTE]Not a flaming comment but there is a lot of establishments doing so. Do the Rainbow 1-2-3-4 remind you of anything? What about the line up of go-go bars in Soi Cowboy or NEP belonging to the same ownership?
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1316047]Does this Dr BJ fella make cameo appearances and give out BJs himself? LOL.
His screen name would suggest that he does. Maybe pick up the slack when things are busy haha[/QUOTE]This is Bangkok, I might be open to negotiation.
Regards.
BJ
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1316072]This is Bangkok, I might be open to negotiation.
Regards.
BJ[/QUOTE]Do you swallow?
Just kidding BJ. I met you and you seem like a decent guy. We had a nice conversation. Good luck with the new business.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1316073]Do you swallow? Just kidding BJ. I met you and you seem like a decent guy. We had a nice conversation. Good luck with the new business.[/QUOTE]A nice joke, much needed to cool down the flaming!
O my personal.
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1316020]Ho Hum! The post on the Sunday referred to 2 weeks previously. I said in another post I only go out roughly every 2 weeks and have a very good memory so therefore it is very easy for me to recall all the details. I've had this self promotion stuff before, it is possible to list all my post's and you will find there are very few referring to the salon, only when there has been some relevant information to divulge. I could post under 2 separate names but I feel honesty is the best policy, so I don't.
No one booked a blow-job in advance for the new place because it is a NURU massage place not a blow-job bar. No one in their right mind would open 2 places close together offering the same service. The lady from Baccara is the only girl I have not identified, at her request. All my other reports give at least the girls number and more often than not her name as well. As to why this lady does not want me to identify her you would have to ask her, OOPS you can't. Oh well never mind."Great performer"? Well you are the first person (actually the second the first was wolf hound and he either gave up or got banned) to level that criticism at me, but it's OK being Scottish I am fairly thick skinned. All my sessions last about 2 hours and yes the intercourse part does last roughly an hour.
The vast majority of the other readers, I'm sure, not only find my post's believable but also informative and entertaining. I'm very confident neither you or me need lose any sleep about the intelligence of the other readers. At the end of the day more than 97% of other readers who do comment on my post's do so in a complimentary manner. There is a facility on this forum to filter out someones post's, why not use it? Clearly the content of my post's is upsetting you, otherwise you would not take so much time to negatively respond to them. I am actually looking forward to the day when you post a field report of your own, as opposed to limiting yourself to sniping at other peoples.
Regards.
BJ[/QUOTE]Sure there would be no point in knowing the lady from Baccara anyway, after the sessions with the doc wouldn't she find the rest of us mortals mere boys when compared to her superman from Scotland. Incidently I'm surprised they ever let a national treasure like youself leave the country.
If the vast majority of readers of this form find your posts entertaining all I can say is they should either get out more often or visit a bookstore.
I'm not upset BJ more amused at how you get around the following policy of the forum
No Self-Promotion: Please do not post any messages anywhere on this site that are primarily for the promotion or advertising of any website, forums, email address, business, multi-level marketing activity, or other entities that you have an affiliation with EXCEPT in the classified advertising section.
As to my own experiences, what's the point. I feel so inferior writing about them when compared to your exploits I'm afraid nobody whether intelligent or not would find them either informative or entertaining.
Incidently along with your self professed very good memory, honesty, sexual prowess, informative and intertaining writing you forgot to mention an ego the size of Glasgow.
I'll be expecting a big discount when I visit the new shop for keeping your name in the headlines.
[QUOTE=Crafty1; 1316057]A Soi Cowboy bargirl stabbed her co-worker to death in a drug-induced rage, after they got into a fight while getting high on 'ice' in their Bangkok apartment. They hadapparently argued about boyfriends, when the dispute turned violent and deadly.
I went with her a month ago, amazing breasts and blow job. Moorena no. 26 Shark.
Thank god I didn't upset her or there were no knives around, it would have been a close shave![/QUOTE]"Hell hath no fury like a Thai woman scorned"
Keep your dick out of her mouth if you don't want it fed to the ducks.
I just read the article and it brought up a question. I know Bangkok is an international city but I wonder how many Colombians are traveling in SE Asis. Now they could be in the drug business, I don't know. In 10 years I have never seen any real Colombians in the city. Can some one provide more information on this.
I travel to S. A. Once in a while and the ones I know have little interest in S. E. Asia. But I don't get near the drug stuff.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;1316081]If the vast majority of readers of this form find your posts entertaining all I can say is they should either get out more often or visit a bookstore.[/QUOTE]What the fuck is wrong with you, Francis. You have 4 posts to your credit, two of which are personal attacks on another board member for writing a factual Go Go trip report. Stop your bull crap, post something of value or shut up.
BTW, "form" is spelled forum.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;1316081]No Self-Promotion: Please do not post any messages anywhere on this site that are primarily for the promotion or advertising of any website, forums, email address, business, multi-level marketing activity, or other entities that you have an affiliation with EXCEPT in the classified advertising section.[/QUOTE]Oh, I must have missed your appointment to the position of "forum policy enformer".
[QUOTE=Mackin; 1316165]I just read the article and it brought up a question. I know Bangkok is an international city but I wonder how many Colombians are traveling in SE Asis. Now they could be in the drug business, I don't know. In 10 years I have never seen any real Colombians in the city. Can some one provide more information on this.
I travel to S. A. Once in a while and the ones I know have little interest in S. E. Asia. But I don't get near the drug stuff.[/QUOTE]I have met a Columbian WG in Grace Hotel in BKK. Bit expensive though
Very interesting. I know one who was working in Hong Kong but that is all. Bigger money there I think. So I will have to see the next trip. Thanks. Still, I will stick to the locals when I am there.
[QUOTE=Franciscass; 1316081]O my personal.
No Self-Promotion: Please do not post any messages anywhere on this site that are [b]primarily [/b]For the promotion or advertising of any website, forums, email address, business, multi-level marketing activity, or other entities that you have an affiliation with EXCEPT in the classified advertising section.[/QUOTE]It all depends on your definition of primarily. Yours seems quite restricted, so live with it. Your flaming can only be justified by the fact you might have been rejected by then salon as provider, but so far they do not seem to venture in man-to-man services, and even so it would not be a matter of talks in this forum. So try some other place and stop messing around in here.
[QUOTE=Mackin; 1316165]I just read the article and it brought up a question. I know Bangkok is an international city but I wonder how many Colombians are traveling in SE Asis. Now they could be in the drug business, I don't know. In 10 years I have never seen any real Colombians in the city. Can some one provide more information on this.
I travel to S. A. Once in a while and the ones I know have little interest in S. E. Asia. But I don't get near the drug stuff.[/QUOTE]The only Colombians I know in Thailand are the 4 girls working out of Mixx in Pattaya. They are all surgeried up (ass & breast implants) and go for 5000/night. None of the Colombians I know in Colombia have any idea where Thailand is. If you mention the country they will think it is only a couple hours flight away. When I tell them it is 21 hours from the USA east coast they are like WTF. And none of them sure as hell have the means to travel to Thailand. I was shocked to say the least when I was in Sydney and met a few Colombian women who were waitresses in restaurants.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1316073]Do you swallow?
Just kidding BJ. I met you and you seem like a decent guy. We had a nice conversation. Good luck with the new business.[/QUOTE]Make me an offer, LOL. Thank's for the good wishes.
Regards
BJ
[QUOTE=Franciscass; 1316081]O my personal.
Sure there would be no point in knowing the lady from Baccara anyway, after the sessions with the doc wouldn't she find the rest of us mortals mere boys when compared to her superman from Scotland. Incidently I'm surprised they ever let a national treasure like youself leave the country.
If the vast majority of readers of this form find your posts entertaining all I can say is they should either get out more often or visit a bookstore.
I'm not upset BJ more amused at how you get around the following policy of the forum
No Self-Promotion: Please do not post any messages anywhere on this site that are primarily for the promotion or advertising of any website, forums, email address, business, multi-level marketing activity, or other entities that you have an affiliation with EXCEPT in the classified advertising section.
As to my own experiences, what's the point. I feel so inferior writing about them when compared to your exploits I'm afraid nobody whether intelligent or not would find them either informative or entertaining.
Incidently along with your self professed very good memory, honesty, sexual prowess, informative and intertaining writing you forgot to mention an ego the size of Glasgow.
I'll be expecting a big discount when I visit the new shop for keeping your name in the headlines.[/QUOTE]There seems to be a common theme in your post's. It reminds me of a couple of other forum members, I think their names were "Wolfhound" and "the pro". Don't know why they stopped posting here? Do you by any chance know these guys? They had an eerily similar writing style to yours. I look forward to welcoming you to the salon as we have a zero discrimination policy whether based on nationality or intelligence level.
Regards.
BJ
[QUOTE=MecumVeni; 1315254]Hello everyone,
I am visiting Bangkok on the 23rd of this month (will be around for 4-5 days so if anyone is up for a beer let me know) and have this lovely thai girl keen to meet me. I have to thank you people in the forum for all the great ideas and reports as they have been inspirational and may pay off soon. So, this is how I went about it:
- registered on thailovelinks (idea I got from a fellow monger here in the forum. Sorry, can't remember who it was so general thanks)
- paid for gold subscription (30 euros for 1 month)
- and here we go: some emails, love interest bla bla and 2 or 3 replies (I am sure I would get more if I added a picture to my profile but don't really want my gorgeous looks out there)
- one date. She wants to meet (is a bit too jealous though but that seems to be normal going by what I read in the forum) and keeps asking me where I want to go when in BKK. So many beautiful places to visit; monuments, historical sites etc etc. Of course, I am interested in culture but priority will certainly be given to some deep immersion as this is my first ever visit to Thailand.
Again going by the many reports I read, she is probably from Issai (flat nose, thick lips, darkish skin) but seems quite pretty (video calling on skype makes her nicer looking than the pictures).
I am sort of a nice guy (unless someone pisses me off) and think we will get on well. At the same time, I don't really want her to think I am a cash cow.
This is where I need as much "local culture" advice as I can: the plan is obvious to have some hot sex with the girl; hopefully have a couple of nice meals and more sex. What would be normal for me to pay without her thinking I am her sponsor or (even worst) thinking I am trying to buy her?
She keeps telling me how hard she works in this financial job and how proud she is of it so she does not seem to be WG (of course, this could all be a bunch of BS).
Help help!
Many thanks,
MV[/QUOTE]She is a hard working good girl with a financial job. So it would not be normal for you to pay her a single baht, nada, zero. If this is a "good" regular working girl then she will be tickled to death just by your taking her out to dinner or for a drink and by being respectful and nice (and no, if she is a "good" girl, you most likely will not be having hot sex on the first few dates.
If she is full of it, then she is a not so good girl looking for a sponsor, and yes, there is a good chance you might have hot sex right away. If you want to keep a nice professional relationship, you might slip 1500 baht into her purse the next morning. But then again, if she never said anything about it and kept going on about being a good girl, why even bother, enjoy the freebie, but expect to be buttered up in other ways.
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1316319]There seems to be a common theme in your post's. It reminds me of a couple of other forum members, I think their names were "Wolfhound" and "the pro". Don't know why they stopped posting here? Do you by any chance know these guys? They had an eerily similar writing style to yours. I look forward to welcoming you to the salon as we have a zero discrimination policy whether based on nationality or intelligence level.
Regards.
BJ[/QUOTE]Since my own intelligence level is called into question frequently, I just need to clarify, when you write "salon", that would be Dr. BJ's Salon on Soi 7-1 Suhkumvit, right? Home of the best blow jobs in Bangkok, right? Disregard my own wee bit 'o Scottish ancestry myself, I have no interest in promoting yer fookin business. But do correct any details that I accidentally fucked up. Like perhaps "best blowjobs in Bangkok might not really be the tagline. I just want to go to the right place as I'm sure you want all of us to.
[QUOTE=Pilot Alex; 1316053]I'm in BKK in spetember fro 5 days. I'm staying in Sukhumvit. Grand Millennium hotel, just in front of SOI COWBOY. What prices are tehre and in NANA for a ST / LT girl (barfine)?
Or is still beter to find a girl on dating site?
Kind Regatrd and thanks to all for replying me![/QUOTE]Generally ST is 2, 000 baht and LT is 4, 000 baht. Depending on the bar, time of evening and how busy the lady has been recently these prices can be open to negotiation. The barfine is 600 baht, I have never used the dating sites so cannot comment on their effectiveness. Whether you have been here a few times before or not just tell the girls you have been here a lot.
Regards.
BJ
[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;1316383]Since my own intelligence level is called into question frequently, I just need to clarify, when you write "salon", that would be Dr. BJ's Salon on Soi 7-1 Suhkumvit, right? Home of the best blow jobs in Bangkok, right? Disregard my own wee bit 'o Scottish ancestry myself, I have no interest in promoting yer fookin business. But do correct any details that I accidentally fucked up. Like perhaps "best blowjobs in Bangkok might not really be the tagline. I just want to go to the right place as I'm sure you want all of us to.[/QUOTE]I know the feeling, I even question my own level of intelligence sometimes. Indeed when I say salon it means Dr BJ's salon. The reason they are the best blow-jobs in Bangkok is that I pitch in myself when we are really busy. As some friends of friends confided in me they tried a lady boy just to see if the blow-job was as good as they had heard and said it was amazing. Who knows better about how to give a BJ than another man. Right?
Regards.
BJ
I checked out Insomnia last night to see what's flavin. NOT A LOT OF SHENANIGANS in play here. It was ok, there were some cuties. I saw one of the uglier ones in Thermae, yet not many seemed to be in the business of exchanging sexual services for money. Many fellas, some quite hansum, walking alone or only with their wingman. Kinda boring like a previous poster stated and so I left. Many of the girls had the personality like my dirty underwear. They were after the big money. Not into having fun sex with cheap but hansum men for free.
BTW-I see those same gals out on the street in front of S15, always see them. Does anyone pick them up? They should try new location!
[QUOTE=Global Surfer;1316183]I have met a Columbian WG in Grace Hotel in BKK. Bit expensive though[/QUOTE]Yah, there are some floating around. My rich friends in BKK have mama sans who can provide them as well as other nationalities. It's not cheap, though!
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1316319]There seems to be a common theme in your post's. It reminds me of a couple of other forum members, I think their names were "Wolfhound" and "the pro". Don't know why they stopped posting here? Do you by any chance know these guys? They had an eerily similar writing style to yours. I look forward to welcoming you to the salon as we have a zero discrimination policy whether based on nationality or intelligence level.
Regards.
BJ[/QUOTE]The poster "The Pro" last posted on the 5th of this month & twice on the 3rd. According to ISG, this "search took 0. 11 seconds". IMO his style seems less eloquent but more practical than your detractor who appears to be more interested in "pulling your leg", though perhaps his intention is merely to probe you and introduce himself to the forum.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1316453]I just had 4 minutes of free sex.
Siam to patppong bts line. Really aggressive riders on this line they pushed and shoved to get inatsiam station. I don't notice this on other line.
I'm standing in behind a japanese middle age woman nice figure wearing a dress. She backs up onto my penis and never leasve it alone. The whole way she was on it. LOL. I had to adjust my erection just to keep it discreet. LOL.
My last week and already can't wait to get back.[/QUOTE]Just think how much "free sex" you could get "riding" the BTS all day long. Cut your expenses by purchasing an all day pass.
BTW the story would get much more interesting if you eventually "upgrade" to actually slipping it out & in for a BTS quickie.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1316453]I just had 4 minutes of free sex.
Siam to patppong bts line. Really aggressive riders on this line they pushed and shoved to get inatsiam station. I don't notice this on other line.
I'm standing in behind a japanese middle age woman nice figure wearing a dress. She backs up onto my penis and never leasve it alone. The whole way she was on it. LOL. I had to adjust my erection just to keep it discreet. LOL.
My last week and already can't wait to get back.[/QUOTE]Can't get the same level of service on your little motor scooter?
You might try the Silom Line, it's even more personal.
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1316386]I know the feeling, I even question my own level of intelligence sometimes. Indeed when I say salon it means Dr BJ's salon. The reason they are the best blow-jobs in Bangkok is that I pitch in myself when we are really busy. As some friends of friends confided in me they tried a lady boy just to see if the blow-job was as good as they had heard and said it was amazing. Who knows better about how to give a BJ than another man. Right?
Regards.
BJ[/QUOTE]Talk of this horseshit, is banned in the forum rules. It also indicates you have some men, working along side the hags, in your shitholes.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1316407]I checked out Insomnia last night to see what's flavin. NOT A LOT OF SHENANIGANS in play here. It was ok, there were some cuties. I saw one of the uglier ones in Thermae, yet not many seemed to be in the business of exchanging sexual services for money. Many fellas, some quite hansum, walking alone or only with their wingman. Kinda boring like a previous poster stated and so I left. Many of the girls had the personality like my dirty underwear. They were after the big money. Not into having fun sex with cheap but hansum men for free.
BTW-I see those same gals out on the street in front of S15, always see them. Does anyone pick them up? They should try new location![/QUOTE]I haven't tried any of the ones in front of S15. I walk past almost nightly, but the girls down the street in front of the Westin scare me too much. They all look diseased there. I have taken some from the street bars on Sukhumvit before, but it is hit or miss. ST as cheap as 1000. I was in Thermae the other night and one girl quoted my 23 year old, decent looking friend 4000 for ST. I told she was crazy and we left. Just wait until Thermae closes down and all the girls flood out into the street. Prices drop drastically, and I have gotten a few of them for free.
[QUOTE=Hatguy; 1315873]The last night before I left I did yet another bar crawl on Soi Cowboy. Much easier done alone for me and I walked up to Baccara and had a beer. Upstairs looked interesting. Stuck around there for half an hour. Then as it was getting pretty late I thought I'd go home. Got to just in front of Sahara and saw a girl I liked the look of.
She took me in and I ordered a drink. She asked for one too and I said sure. She had to go dance and asked me to bring her drink over to the podium. That's when I noticed there were two drinks there for her. WTF! I decided to get along as it was about 2am and asked for the check. 620 baht! Told the waitress I would pay for one lady drink only. Her response was TALK TO THE GIRL YOU BOUGHT IT FOR. I motioned for her to come over but she was telling me to wait for her to finish dancing. WTF! She tried to scam me with double lady drink and then I'm supposed to wait? Fuck off! I said even louder CHECK PLEASE and she finally came down off the stage and I told her I was paying for ONE not TWO. Much discussion took place and finally a check came which I was happy with. After that I went up to the offending girl and told her not to double up on drinks!
So anyway, WARNING! Always say ONE LADY DRINK ONLY. And if they do it anyway insist on paying for one drink. If they do do it to you like the one I had you know who NOT to bar fine.
This topic reminds me of the girl I spent the first 2 days with this time. We had met before and hit it off well. Reunion screwing was great and I bought her a few things she asked for which she needed while staying. Shampoo and stuff like that. No problems. The first night we hit Soi Cowboy and Shadow bar / Country road. Lots of fun. I noticed that whenever my beer was lower in level than hers that she would switch them. The first few times was fine but after the 4th time or so it started to annoy me. So I told her not to do it. She just laughed and kept it up.
The next night her cousin came around and they both wanted to go to Insomnia. FINE so I paid for both her and her cousin plus myself. Enormous club but expensive as hell. I was not too impressed with their prices at all. But YET AGAIN my girl is doing the switching thing. I go to the toilet and come back and she's switched them! Lipstick on my beer bottle! So I asked her if she did it again. Laughter is all I get. I walked off and stood at a different part of the club. Then decided FUCK THIS and left. I was staying on Soi 19 so no majors at all for me to get home.
I was so pissed off and drunk that I told my hotel security to keep her out. I don't know what time it was but about 3 am she starts pounding on the door. Because I still had her stuff there I let her in. She was in a state and telling me it was my fault and blah blah blah. She calmed down but I decided then and there she had to go. Next morning I told her I needed a break from her antics. She said "I NOT GO HOME I STAY HERE YOU" or something like that. Told her she would go no matter what. Some sort of stand off ensued. In the end I had to threaten security to get her out the door.
What the fuck! Everything was going great until the two girls did that shit. Why would they bother doing this sort of stuff? It is just puzzling! It is like the two of them have no idea about how to play it so they can get the maximum money out of you. Rather, nickle and diming you on stupid shit.
Ps. I don't have the name of the Sahara girl. Sorry.[/QUOTE]It is not just Sahara. I have had billing discrepancies at most of the bars on Cowboy, most recently Tilac. I was buying all lady tequila drinks and somehow ended up with a non-tequila lady drink. I wanted to know whose number was next to the drink and they refused to point her out. When I went to the cashier, she quickly took off the suspect drink without any protest, which tells me, the staff at Tilac pulls this quite frequently. I have also had problems at Kiss, Sahara and Rio. All owned by the Iranian. I hate the bills there because you cannot actually see your drinks on every receipt. It only shows the most recent purchase and the total. When your bills get higher or if you are drunk, it is easy for them to do a two transaction scam, where they put on a lady drink first and then ring up a drink for you. You will only see your drink on the receipt they bring you. Either check your bill each time before you order another drink, or ask for a detailed print out of every drink on the bill before you pay it.
Had some naughty plans this early morning (arriving very early from Oslo. Sat 18. 8.12 6:15am) but they did not get through due some hickups at my hotel. Normaly I skip booking early check-in and get room right away. This time I booked early check-in (at a higher rate ofcourse) and got my room later than never (11am).
Was horny as a motherfucker can be, went outside, walked the street down sukhumvit odd number. Right before soi 7 met this shabby girl. Went to the park hotel (opposite Beergarden) , booked a room and shagged her (not bareback) I give her rating 4 (beeing kind) but my alternative was wanking so here we go. Set me back 1000 (to make it easy).
Got the room (Grand President) , started drinking, got in shape (shower, shaving) and horny as hell again around noon. Popped one Kamagra and headed for Beergarden. Had a few beers alone (contemplative drinking) just watching what was going on. Saw one nice looking lady. Well proportioned and seemed a bit shy (sometimes that means not to regular. Or maby just good acting). Sat down with her, started talking and we hit it off (if you can call it that in a place like beergarde. But chemistry is important no matter what in my book). One firend of her arrived (which I incidentaly have fucked before). We started talking about 3some. It was pouring down to much so we stayed a bit until around 6pm when the heavy weather eased up. Went back to hotel. Both girls got undress (one of them did my ironing. Shirt I need later today. Naked) and after the normal shower routine. Everything is working fine and I am as horny as hell. 2 ladies (we have agreed also I can do those asses as well if I like. Switching between hole 1 and 2. Not one standing in the bathroom while I fuck the other one) who could fullfill all my wishes. What happens? Jackson or junior (as we call him in Norway failes). He has been stiff since Beergarden and even harder when they got naked in the room. Fuck!
To ease the pain I had to ditch the number 2 girl (I was stressed I guess) and nicely tell her to hit the road. Number one gave me a hell of a blow job, me sitting in the chair (like giving birth) with her finger in my ass. Then junior woke up again, she did deepthroath, tungwork and sucking proffesionaly (to be so shy, hehe) , we did fuck and in ass as well. It was hurtfull to her but I told her sometimes it is just like that (on an asslevel she did not seem very proffesional even if I tried my best of tricks, possitioning her, ease her muscles, pillow under waistbelt, lubication and so on it was extremely thight). I will post some pics as well in photo gallery but now I head for Spasso so don't have time for resizing pictures and stuff like that tonight). I give her a 6-7 in most ways and she set me back 2000bht (she did everything and could have continued still I think) so well worth it even if some of you guys will rip your hair off. And price was my choice alone. We did not talk about that in Beergarden.
FR 2 BKK 18/19. 8 or just 19/8 tomorrow.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1316453]I just had 4 minutes of free sex.
Siam to patppong bts line. Really aggressive riders on this line they pushed and shoved to get inatsiam station. I don't notice this on other line.
I'm standing in behind a japanese middle age woman nice figure wearing a dress. She backs up onto my penis and never leasve it alone. The whole way she was on it. LOL. I had to adjust my erection just to keep it discreet. LOL.
My last week and already can't wait to get back.[/QUOTE]I would not have adjusted it. She caused it so she can suffer the consequences.
PS: What line and what time? I might go try and find her.
[QUOTE=Oidar;1316622]Talk of this horseshit, is banned in the forum rules. It also indicates you have some men, working along side the hags, in your shitholes.[/QUOTE]You mean Dr. BJ knot hole club?
Oidar: Why don't you go buy a sense of humor.
[QUOTE=Dr BJ;1315592]. I do not "sample" any of the ladies who work in the salon. .[/QUOTE]From a business perspective, this does not make sense to me.
If you own / run the salon, to keep it successful, I would make sure my girls have the capacity to deliver a top notch hummer. If she can't demonstrate it she would not work for me on the worry of her possibly driving the quality of the salons service down.
So what am I missing here or how do you validate the girls services are up to par?
[QUOTE=Dr BJ;1316386]Indeed when I say salon it means Dr BJ's salon. The reason they are the best blow-jobs in Bangkok is that I pitch in myself when we are really busy.[/QUOTE]I saw some YouPorn vids yesterday where girls suck and fuck guys off through a hole in a wall. Those vids are pretty dammed sexy.
Anyway, anybody ever hear of this kind of act in Thailand? I realize you would never know being behind some kind of barrier whether the girl might be a LB or worse depending on your imagination. But hey. Lets think positive here!
I think a one-way-window mirror would be fun where you could see her but she could not see you. The girl could be in some kind of room with a mirror wall where you could see in and once she sees a dick poke through she would get to work. Sounds fun to me! This would raise the bar at any of the BJ places I have read about. So what about it? Any kind of stuff like this in Thailand?
[QUOTE=Ehunter; 1316865]From a business perspective, this does not make sense to me.
If you own / run the salon, to keep it successful, I would make sure my girls have the capacity to deliver a top notch hummer. If she can't demonstrate it she would not work for me on the worry of her possibly driving the quality of the salons service down.
So what am I missing here or how do you validate the girls services are up to par?[/QUOTE]It sounds like you are coming from a hornyman's perspective. From a businessman's perspective the first rule of pimping is to partake in the money, not the honey. The same as in the dope game; don't get high on your own supply.
[QUOTE=Ehunter;1316870]I saw some YouPorn vids yesterday where girls suck and fuck guys off through a hole in a wall. Those vids are pretty dammed sexy.[/QUOTE]That reminds me of the old glory hole joke in which the punchline was 'tramp putting his false teeth back in'. Or was it 'farmer wiping the arse of a sheep'?
No way would I risk put my precious tackle through a hole in the wall!
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1316880]It sounds like you are coming from a hornyman's perspective. From a businessman's perspective the first rule of pimping is to partake in the money, not the honey. The same as in the dope game; don't get high on your own supply.[/QUOTE]Absolutely
[QUOTE=Ehunter;1316870]I saw some YouPorn vids yesterday where girls suck and fuck guys off through a hole in a wall. Those vids are pretty dammed sexy.[/QUOTE]You mean like this staged one with the delectable Ms. Rose?
[url]http://www.niftytube.com/asian-arial-rose-gloryhole/[/url]
[QUOTE=Ehunter; 1316870]I saw some YouPorn vids yesterday where girls suck and fuck guys off through a hole in a wall. Those vids are pretty dammed sexy.
Anyway, anybody ever hear of this kind of act in Thailand? I realize you would never know being behind some kind of barrier whether the girl might be a LB or worse depending on your imagination. But hey. Lets think positive here!
I think a one-way-window mirror would be fun where you could see her but she could not see you. The girl could be in some kind of room with a mirror wall where you could see in and once she sees a dick poke through she would get to work. Sounds fun to me! This would raise the bar at any of the BJ places I have read about. So what about it? Any kind of stuff like this in Thailand?[/QUOTE]I don't know why you couldn't just buy a big piece of cardboard and cut out a penis sized hole in it. You could tape the cardboard between a doorway so it stays in place while she's pleasuring you.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1316880]It sounds like you are coming from a hornyman's perspective. From a businessman's perspective the first rule of pimping is to partake in the money, not the honey. The same as in the dope game; don't get high on your own supply.[/QUOTE]I guess partially yes. But again the reality as a business owner is to try and make sure the rendered services are better than the competitors. So with Dr BJs Salon, what does he do then to make sure the talent is better than the competitors?
I am not convinced the dope game analogy fits exactly either. The poster already said he goes out for his activities so he consumes the "dope" already. Is it fair to say in this case that the chef doesn't want to eat his own food?
I understand not wanting to put your tackle through a hole but if the wall was a glass window where you could see everything, the girl, her surroundings, would that change it for you? I think it would be a good addition to offered services. Another one might be where one of the rooms is set up as a jail cell or cage where the girl works you from behind the bars. In fact the whole business could be made much more fun if the establishment / office space was made into a bunch of themed rooms providing a twist to receiving a memorable hummer. All it takes is a little imagination. As of now everyone just provides a telephone booth room, fancy chair, and not much more.
[url]http://www.youporn.com/watch/444993/prison-fucking/?from=search_soft&pos=11[/url]
[url]http://www.youporn.com/watch/618539/gen-padova-locked-up-and-wants-some-cock/?from=search_soft&pos=28[/url]
The point is to upgrade their services and to use a little imagination.
[QUOTE=Ehunter;1316969]But again the reality as a business owner is to try and make sure the rendered services are better than the competitors. So with Dr BJs Salon, what does he do then to make sure the talent is better than the competitors?[/QUOTE]You have I quite wrong: the reality of business is that you are to generate the maximum profit with the minimum of investment in money, time and effort.
As "talent" is a very individually perceived property, it does not rank high on the list. Is a BJ-artist in need of a model-body, a shaved pussy, a flat stomach and is 20 years old and fresh from the farm or ist it enough she has a tongue as a giraffe, sucks like a Hoover and has 20+ years of experience? Do you go to a BJ-bar for some quick relief in between two business appointments or do you want to make it into a memorable event?
What I want to say is that many of these establishments seem to do well with minimal "investments", so there is few if any pressure to "upgrade" the service. However dismal --in the eyes of some-- the service may be, there will always be bottom feeders who are happy enough to get serviced sitting at the bar and nursing their Chang. I applaud Dr. BJs effort in improving the eye candy of his establishment and for sure it will attract a more sophisticated class of customers, but these customers are like tourists who refuse to buy food from street vendors and pay a premium to sit inside a restaurant and get the same food for a multiple of the price. To each his own, I'd say, but the name of the game is not to "render services better than the competitors".
Sometimes I ask why I am drawn to this location but after alcohol have fasttracked my system I tend to go there. Ladies medioca and prices are high. I find it suprisengly relaxing though. Sat down at the bar area and a few stunners where smiling heavily at me. I did dress nice with Versace shoes and nice shirt (and a pair of fashion jeans). So far so good!
One lady comes up to me. See she's kind of chubby. But previous in Norway I gained a few of those chubbies and they are great fucks. She told me she was part time indo / thai and she looked great. I decided lets go for her.
Evening went on and I became drunk as usual. Some girls where laughing at me and later I do know why. Brought this seemeingly, only chubby girl, back to my hotel. And from there I saw how fat she realy was. As an opponent to all the successtories inside here I want to tell it is also allowed to tell the negative ones, hehe.
She did her best to make me ejaculate over her fat body but I could not (I had to call the spinner from last day (earlier this day) to make this happen. Wanking in Thailand is not an option).
And she started claiming money. As usual I don't negotiate at the location. She claimed 5000bht. I told her my dissapointments (fat but not ugly) and I told her 2500 would be acceptable due to pickup place like Spasso (going rate normal 4-5 large ones). When I did not cave in she started to scream, yelling and throwing glasses at my direction so I had to make the call to security and they dragged her away. I gave her 1000 extra for the fun.
Beauty: charming, body: low, fucking: tried maby 2 minutes, attitude: nice, Name: GIFFY or GIF (if you like to have normal thai style).
Did not take pics from her because the forum don't need ugly bugly photoes.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1316984]You have I quite wrong: the reality of business is that you are to generate the maximum profit with the minimum of investment in money, time and effort. I applaud Dr. BJs effort in improving the eye candy of his establishment and for sure it will attract a more sophisticated class of customers, but these customers are like tourists who refuse to buy food from street vendors and pay a premium to sit inside a restaurant and get the same food for a multiple of the price. To each his own, I'd say, but the name of the game is not to "render services better than the competitors".[/QUOTE]Matter of the fact is that there is a wide number of people coming to BKK for this tupé of fun and not sophisticated and experienced mongers (I. E. ISG hardcore members). They are looking for what BKK is also famous for but withi a reasonable fence of safety and reliability. The restaurant and street vendor example fit / perfectly. Lot is said about the danger of eating un controlled food and make sure your food is washed etc. Similarly lot of people is warned or worried about taking FL's or girls from "odd bars" (odd for the newcomer). It does not mean you get poisoned at the street stall or robbed by the FL. Sometime you get sick from a restaurant and get cheated by a gogo girl. Dr. BJ with its new, clean, lighted premises caters to the sex punters just as the restaurant, s caters for the local food.
We should look at things his way. Offering the opportunity to people not mentally ready to go to SOL. Same ow with escort services. Lots of people comes to BKK and look for escorts, seeing it as a safe way. Then maybe they get a questionable girl who came t the hotel from Soi 3. The same girl he did not dare even to look at, but booked her on the Internet.
Wolvenvacht:
I guess this fits the environment because I don't recall reading about any BJ places closing their doors for lack of customers / profits.
I do think a themed approach would generate talk among punters and create extra traffic, but as you say why bother trying to make up any return on investments when the money is good enough already. The theme would definitely rocket any place to the top of my list, but it sounds like I am in the minority around here.
[QUOTE=Ehunter; 1317166]Wolvenvacht:
I guess this fits the environment because I don't recall reading about any BJ places closing their doors for lack of customers / profits.
I do think a themed approach would generate talk among punters and create extra traffic, but as you say why bother trying to make up any return on investments when the money is good enough already. The theme would definitely rocket any place to the top of my list, but it sounds like I am in the minority around here.[/QUOTE]The idea of a blow job themed venue is cool, I'd get a little claustrophobic in the one with bars.
Just Saying!
[QUOTE=Ehunter; 1316865]From a business perspective, this does not make sense to me.
If you own / run the salon, to keep it successful, I would make sure my girls have the capacity to deliver a top notch hummer. If she can't demonstrate it she would not work for me on the worry of her possibly driving the quality of the salons service down.
So what am I missing here or how do you validate the girls services are up to par?[/QUOTE]The way I evaluate the quality of service is through customer feedback. Verbally, via e-mail and on the various forums. Firstly I always inform the lady about the content of the feedback, secondly the ladies want repeat customers so try to give the best service possible. For me to "try the ladies out" would in the long run be very unwise and cause a mountain of problems I would prefer to avoid. Anyway this is Bangkok so it's not like I don't have other places to go for my own gratification.
Regards.
BJ
[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1317389]The way I evaluate the quality of service is through customer feedback. Verbally, via e-mail and on the various forums. Firstly I always inform the lady about the content of the feedback, secondly the ladies want repeat customers so try to give the best service possible. For me to "try the ladies out" would in the long run be very unwise and cause a mountain of problems I would prefer to avoid. Anyway this is Bangkok so it's not like I don't have other places to go for my own gratification.
Regards.
BJ[/QUOTE]I think this makes sense as every guy has their different trigger when it comes to satisfaction. Your trigger would be different than others and possibly skew service away from what other guys like.
I am always leery giving immediate verbal feedback as it takes time for me to reformulate the whole act and grade it fairly a very short time after. Emails might be skewed to complainers, but self addressed stamped envelope cards might capture more of the positives with better detail.
I will get around to your place no doubt. Am still waiting for a buddy to set some travel dates.
Come cross to a site and order prostate massage. I went there. A ladies wash my feet and bring me upstair. It is Aroma oil massage room with a bathtub.
She gave me a very very very good massage around 1 hr. I was sleeping, suddenly another girl came in the room and touch me softly and sometime scratch on my back in soft way. She do a bit teasing me. Then she massage my butt. Then she do prostate massage. It was fantastic feeling. So I lose control.
Good to have this experience. It is on Sukhumvit 103. Soi Udomsuk 7. Call Nama Spa.
Regards,
H
what i miss the most back in europe are the blowjob bars that you can find here in bkk. therefore i started my tour from the temple in soi 8 ([url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]) where i quickly found my favorite therapist, khun kae.
her service was as good as ever but i could sense a kind of negative vibe at the bar. few girls, few customers, few smiles. on top, the price recently increased from 700 to 800 bht, not a good sign considering the thai version of the demand / supply theory (i sell less so i increase the prices to maintain the turnover stable).
as a good second, i visited the new bar (salon?) in soi 7/1, dr bj. here the feeling is the opposite, a lot of girls and a positive atmosphere. took fon, and. 11 that i strongly recommend if you are not interested in looks (in a bj bar i am not). not only she sucked me dry as a real woman should do (lol) but she also offered me a second trip without being asked for and she didn't let me go before the call on the phone at the end of the 30 minutes. for the records, the same protocol was applied in two different days. now, before you assume that this is the rule at dr bj, be informed that for sake of precision i tested two more different girls, and 33 (or 35.) and letter b. well, in both cases the game over was quickly followed by a bye bye and the overall performance for and. 33 was way below average (teeth!). outstanding instead for letter b, even if i think that 1k bht for a blowjob is too much. anyways imo the introduction of the multishot / real time principle should be considered also for bj bars. in the end this approach together with consistently good performance made of tulip a market leader for long time, without particularly good looking girls.
i also paid a quick visit to lollipop. nothing spectacular to report, except for a cute girl whose young age and pretty eyes kind of mitigated the average performance.
to close the chapter of the bj bars, tonight i went back to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] and took (guess who?) kae. excellent service as usual, but not a word nor a smile. since we know for some years i asked her what was wrong but got no reply, she didn't even wait for the tip i wanted to give her. well, she's never been the friendliest girl of the bar but after this our love story may be close to an end. .
beergarten. compared to my last visit some months ago, the place is more busy and some nice girls are available. i went there on wednesday afternoon after a session at lollipop without really planning to take a girl out. the only available stool was near a good looking 27 yo girl who started waving at me since i got in. well, we chatted some minutes, i bought her and her friend a drink (a bottle of water shared between them) and then she asked me if i wanted to go with them. she told me they are not regulars but in that moment they were short of money. when i told her that i had just finished a session, she proposed that i pay 500 bht to her and her friend (each, obviously) for a massage and that if that made me horny enough i could screw both of them. this proposal moved something in my heart and under my pants but i was still hesitant, so i proposed 700 bht for her alone and she surprisingly accepted.
now, the session was not something i'll remember for the rest of my life, however it was an honest one with a very good blow job part. the girl, in addition, proved to look better naked than with her clothes.
a second beergarten girl was the worst pick of the season. a horrible tummy, lack of bed skills and lazy. cut the losses after half an hour of useless efforts and headed to mango.
mango. i love this place as i love tulip and snow white. this time since cherry is busy with her own shop, i picked cream (not to be confused with the other lovely cream at snow white) who proved to be a wonderful lover and a nice person to spend time with. cream has a slender body with two beautiful enhanced breasts. not too big, soft and well shaped. she's also a cute face despite those big braces in her mouth and an attitude which is a mix between the shyness and the will to please. she's got everything in the menu (though the backdoor has to be handled with care) but for me she gives the best in missionary with long dfk. apparently khun nestle provided some blowjob training and i can confirm the excellent results.
well' that should be it for the time being. a second part may come at the beginning of september if something remarcable needs to be added.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1317364]They went to a two tier pricing system where the pretty young girls costed 700 for thai mass. And 900 for oil mass (most in this category don't even do oil). The rest costed 500 thai mass and 800 oil. These actually do know how to give massage. LOL. WHAT they should do is charge more for the pretty girls who ALSO give a decent massage. There are some of these but not many.[/QUOTE]It makes zero economic sense for pretty girls to give a 1h massage (hard work) for 900 baht, when they can do 20 min of sex instead for 2000+ baht.
Frankly, I don't like the whole massage parlor sex combination. Plain massage is OK and can be pleasant when done well.
Most sex massage girls give you a lousy massage, and after 10 min proposition for sex, at which point you're half-naked in a confined but not particularly private room (or worse, partition!) , in a bad bargaining position. Either you pay what she asks for a sex act (usually limited in scope and not a good value at all) , or are left holding your dick and getting a very lousy non-massage for the rest of the time while she moans how you should have chosen sex.
When shopping for sex, I either want to know the full deal upfront (like Tulip or Mango) , or to have a more-or-less relaxed GFE experience at my hotel, where things happen more-or-less spontaneously.
[QUOTE=Ehunter;1316969]I guess partially yes. But again the reality as a business owner is to try and make sure the rendered services are better than the competitors. So with Dr BJs Salon, what does he do then to make sure the talent is better than the competitors?[/QUOTE]Go imagine the feedback that the owner / manager can get from a provider if he tastes her himself. Might just be good to see whether she is into it or not in general. A starfish will smartly turn into a PSE if she wants to pass the audition and go back into starfish mode soon after. Of course a lost cause will always be a lost cause and she will be a lost cause even during the casting.
But mama-sans are for that too. To spot the talent and the lost cause. Then as everywhere, there will always be the lsot in translation and a wrong recruiting. She will not alst long as soon punters will complain. Might not be the passer-by tourist. But a regular punter will surely try a newcomer and can then report back about a lousy service. These sum up and she'll be out. Management can always send "plain clothed inspectors", be a friend, be somebody unknown to the girls and being a ' regular' to inspect the goods.
Ways of checking are many and they are for sure a common issue for that (and similar industries). I do not think these guys are caught off-guarded.
And about the personal mongering of Dr. BJ. Who knows if during his escapedes he is scouting for new talents too to bring to his places?
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1317499]Most sex massage girls give you a lousy massage, and after 10 min proposition for sex, at which point you're half-naked in a confined but not particularly private room (or worse, partition!) , in a bad bargaining position. Either you pay what she asks for a sex act (usually limited in scope and not a good value at all) , or are left holding your dick and getting a very lousy non-massage for the rest of the time while she moans how you should have chosen sex.[/QUOTE]I think everybody knows the deal about the MP's in Thailand (and Asia in general, and not only!) , when a happy ending is taken for granted jsut as you brush your teeth after lunch.
To the point from time to time we have here somebody asking "where can I find a legitimate and no sex MP?", sounding as an extraordianry thing. Based on this, when you go in an MP, in a curtained cubicle, you will not be in a weak position as you have your pants down. I think 0. 1% of the visitors of those MP's does not expect sex in it, and irrelevant massage.
Unless you go for a leg massage in the main room with open windows looking at the street. We all knopw what the game is. And in case somebdoy ends up in a real massage, he might left with disappointment.
[QUOTE=Ehunter;1317423](...) self addressed stamped envelope cards might capture more of the positives with better detail.[/QUOTE]Sure, wonderful idea. You can take it home, think it over at your leasure and then ask your wife / GF to put it in the mail. Success assured!
[QUOTE=HotPowers; 1317426]Come cross to a site and order prostate massage. I went there. A ladies wash my feet and bring me upstair. It is Aroma oil massage room with a bathtub.
She gave me a very very very good massage around 1 hr. I was sleeping, suddenly another girl came in the room and touch me softly and sometime scratch on my back in soft way. She do a bit teasing me. Then she massage my butt. Then she do prostate massage. It was fantastic feeling. So I lose control.
Good to have this experience. It is on Sukhumvit 103. Soi Udomsuk 7. Call Nama Spa.
Regards,
H[/QUOTE]Hot powers, due respect bt wen you lose control, you cum and your grammar go.
Regards
I look forward to welcoming you to the salon as we have a zero discrimination policy whether based on nationality or intelligence level.
Regards,
BJ[/QUOTE]Thank doc for the invite, much appreciated. Also good to know of your zero discrimination policy, actually I imagine without it business might be a little slow. Also to your credit from a quick assessment of the ladies seems you also apply this principle to your staffing and it obviously to the credit of local authority applies to the licencing process for business's like yours.
Cheers Doc.
The days are mixing into eachoters and I am in lack of quality sleep. There are to many things happening all the time. Jean428 (or sth) nice reports. Well appreciated. Well Ann and Say 2 ladies I met. Ann in Climax and Say in Spasso. In between I had Fon a couple of times (from my first reports) more.
Ann, stunning lady picked out froom the manager in Climax (who I know well). She proved to be a good fuck. I could pretty much do everything to her anal, rimming, she fingered me in the ass (which I like to one extend. Not gay) , blowing or smoking as she liked to call it. No complaints. Friendly as hell and she provide a real nice GFE exp. I deepthroated her so she did throw up. I did stick my dick inside melted Ben&Jerry`s Chocolate Fudge Brownie icecream. OMG she did suck and got the taste for this great icecream. After I poured the melted chocolate stuffs in her scratch and I licked her up pussy and ass wice until she had strong orgasm. She is probably one of the best LT sessions I ever had all my mongering life. I can give her only 7 (maby 8) in looks but attitude / performance close to 10. I am happy and I gladly gave her 3000BHT. If she had asked me I give her 10000. But we have to adjust payments as they not take off, don't we.
Last night I headed for Spasso again (as usual don't know why but I like the easy feel and relaxed environment). Saw some nice talent except from Giffy from 2 days ago (I am refering to FR nr 2). She did have the curtosy to come over to say hello and I told her I would not have anything to do with her. Leave me alone or sth. Next to me sat this beautiful tall lady and she did ask what my buiness with Giffy was. I had to tell her about my doings and wrongings. So she laughed and we had a few drinks. Very nice girl. Maby a little to proffesional and a little coldhearted but eventually we headed for my room and she was all into it. She ripped her dress off and we played around for a bit. She was all wet and she did not lubicate herself before. I realy enjoyed her. She had so tiny asshole but I managed to get it inside and she did scream and I did enjoy (she allowed me ofcourse). But she did inform me she was not very into assfucking. And from her tightness I think she never did it before. But now she has.
We had many popps during nighttime and early morning. She asked me if I wanted to go to gym with her which I wicely declined. Head for airport now. To Jakarta (was supposed to go yesterday but missed my flight. I guess I am to horny). I will also go to Philippines while I am at it. To have one fullblooded Indo girl have been my dream for long time.
I will post some pics as well. But Say was not easy to have pics from.
[QUOTE=Harold444;1317474]One would think there would be a whole lot of trip reports on Dr BJ's place. Where for gods sake are they?[/QUOTE]Still waiting for yours.
BTW, you spoke too soon (see next post after yours).
Also do they have HIV or are they tested regularly for STI's (papers available, in English, from Bumrungrad hospital, to be viewed at customer's request)?
Wasn't there a time condoms were law for sex workers in LOS? Or has that changed? Perhaps it didn't apply to BJs, eh?
Just arrived back in the USA but a wingman and I both paid a visit to the new BJ Nuru place on Soi 7/1earlier today (or was it yesterday?) Selection was excellent especially considering it was very early in the afternoon. The Nuru gel is a different feeling and I liked it a lot. I think it is worth a try if you have never done so before. The mattress used is huge and confortable, very nice for us larger guys. I've outgrown those flimsy mattresses used at soapies.
All in all we were both impressed by the selection and we both loved the service. I would recommend a visit and I would also recommend the girl I chose, Number 11.
[QUOTE=Allover; 1317875]Just arrived back in the USA but a wingman and I both paid a visit to the new BJ Nuru place on Soi 7/1earlier today (or was it yesterday?) Selection was excellent especially considering it was very early in the afternoon. The Nuru gel is a different feeling and I liked it a lot. I think it is worth a try if you have never done so before. The mattress used is huge and confortable, very nice for us larger guys. I've outgrown those flimsy mattresses used at soapies.
All in all we were both impressed by the selection and we both loved the service. I would recommend a visit and I would also recommend the girl I chose, Number 11.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the feedback.
I think DrBJ Nuru should be in the shopping lists of those staying a few days in BKK, at least once to try it. Then one can decide to do it again or not.
But on principle it seems to me it realize what we see in many japanese AV and that, for one reason or the other (including the difficulties gajins experience in being accepted) , we are not capable to live.
PS: I think you went there "yesterday", ie Monday, right?
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1317883]Thanks for the feedback.
I think DrBJ Nuru should be in the shopping lists of those staying a few days in BKK, at least once to try it. Then one can decide to do it again or not.[/QUOTE]Try it if you like.
I think much better value is to pay the same price of 1000 baht for a ST with SWs around NPL & get not only BBBJ, but boom boom, DFK, ass licking, maybe even bareback, etc
BTW of 7 working girls there I recently had tested for HIV, all were negative. As was another whom I met from nearby on soi 4.
[QUOTE=Allover; 1317875]Just arrived back in the USA but a wingman and I both paid a visit to the new BJ Nuru place on Soi 7/1earlier today (or was it yesterday?) Selection was excellent especially considering it was very early in the afternoon. The Nuru gel is a different feeling and I liked it a lot. I think it is worth a try if you have never done so before. The mattress used is huge and confortable, very nice for us larger guys. I've outgrown those flimsy mattresses used at soapies.
All in all we were both impressed by the selection and we both loved the service. I would recommend a visit and I would also recommend the girl I chose, Number 11.[/QUOTE]Thank you for come to visit my shop and try the service. I hope to see you again soon!
Dr BJ's Nuru
You got a web sight for the new nuru massage place?
Well, as the early afternoon visit to Darling massage didn't turn out very well (covered in another report) I headed to Morning Night bar or whatever its called, just beside the entrance to Nana Plaza.
As it turned out, nowadays a larger number of ladies are working there, supposedly up to 30 now. Some even nice looking. Well, after a few beers and talking I decided to leave and check out also Beergarden on soi 7. Just for the fun of it. Well, nothing has changed there over the past few years, except the ladies have gotten a few years older, I guess. Nothing I would write home about, obviously, but worth mentioning here anyway, I guess.
Then went to check out Dr BJ services, just for the fun of it. Supposedly I selected a mid 30s consultant ranking 9/10 on their website. As I found out afterwards. She gave a pretty dirty cim service, but either her teeth or Donald Dick was a bit too big. Anyway, nice and dirty as it was, I probably won't return, sorry.
The marvels of google.
[url]http://nurumassagebangkok.com/index.html[/url]
And "NO" I have nothing to do with this.
[QUOTE=Mackin;1318088]You got a web sight for the new nuru massage place?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1317901]Try it if you like.
I think much better value is to pay the same price of 1000 baht for a ST with SWs around NPL & get not only BBBJ, but boom boom, DFK, ass licking, maybe even bareback, etc.[/QUOTE]You forgot the option of a girl using a strap on on you. They might do it for an additional 100 baht. 200 if you request KY. Try it, you might like it as adds even more quantity to your list.
[QUOTE=Jgm005; 1318098].
[url]http://nurumassagebangkok.com/index.html[/url][/QUOTE]Dr. BJ,
You guys have a great sense of humor :) !
... from the website:
[b]Future openings in:[/b]
Phuket (Patong Beach) Sukhumvit soi 24 (Bangkok) , Patphong, Hua Hin, Pattaya (walking Street) , Kho Samui, Chan Mai, Kong Khen, Manila, Angels City, [b]The Vatican City, Kabul, Falkland Islands, Tehran, Mogadishu[/b] And many many more great locations.
Giotto
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Bionicman, we were there early Monday afternoon. I like to have a girl in the afternoon and then visit the gogos at night looking for a second girl when I have the energy to do it twice. For me BJ Nuru will probably be my main day time option.
Nuru Guru, we did speak to each other during my visit. I appreciated the fact that you were sincerely concerned that we have a good time at your place. I think that is important to any business. The number of beautiful girls available early in the day was amazing. I hope you can keep that crew together for a long time.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1318112]You forgot the option of a girl using a strap on on you. They might do it for an additional 100 baht. 200 if you request KY. Try it, you might like it as adds even more quantity to your list.[/QUOTE]In the Cuntry OS anything is possible, as their motto,"Dare to dream, dare to dream", is from the Canadian beer commercial.
Perhaps the following site, in case anyone missed it, can lead cheap charlie's in the right direction.
[url]http://nurumassagebangkok.com/index.html[/url]
[url]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com/[/url]
[QUOTE=Allover; 1318235]Bionicman, we were there early Monday afternoon. I like to have a girl in the afternoon and then visit the gogos at night looking for a second girl when I have the energy to do it twice. For me BJ Nuru will probably be my main day time option.
Nuru Guru, we did speak to each other during my visit. I appreciated the fact that you were sincerely concerned that we have a good time at your place. I think that is important to any business. The number of beautiful girls available early in the day was amazing. I hope you can keep that crew together for a long time.[/QUOTE]At BJ Nuru, is it one shot or multi-shots per session? Any anal action available?
Nana Liquid was handing out flyers for free admission. I decided to give it whirl and went in and found hardly anyone there LOL. Took a leak and then made a dash for the exit. I think they can't compete with insomnia, a much classier joint.
Was very impressed with the talent at Rainbow 4. The place was full of hot girls and hardly saw any ugly ones. Did they send all the ugly ones to Dr BJ Nuru?
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1318644]Nana Liquid was handing out flyers for free admission. I decided to give it whirl and went in and found hardly anyone there LOL. Took a leak and then made a dash for the exit. I think they can't compete with insomnia, a much classier joint.
Was very impressed with the talent at Rainbow 4. The place was full of hot girls and hardly saw any ugly ones. Did they send all the ugly ones to Dr BJ Nuru?[/QUOTE]I didn't go looky the nooky in NURU but I have to agree, Rainbow 4 almost every girl in the place was hot.
Met the manager of Liquid on the street up by 19 night before last, He invited me up. May try it on Friday.
Usually I'm able to pull some decent talent on their way home to points out SUK, but there has been very little foot traffic past Soi 23, after 2 or 3 the last few nights.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch[/url]%3Fv%3DADPjOBCAmFU.
One of his many videos infiltrating the under belly of BKK. Check out his collection.
I'm about to hit a round number milestone in regards to Thai women.
Anyone have a good suggestion as to how I can celebrate it properly?
Meaning a particularly worthwhile experience. I don't want another run of the mill massage or bargirl on this special occasion.
I'll splurge a bit if necessary.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1318813]I'm about to hit a round number milestone in regards to Thai women.
Anyone have a good suggestion as to how I can celebrate it properly?
Meaning a particularly worthwhile experience. I don't want another run of the mill massage or bargirl on this special occasion.
I'll splurge a bit if necessary.[/QUOTE]GB.
For my birthday sometime ago my good ISG mate JSBach splurged for his pressie to me and maybe take some isdeas from this:
4 girls, two of which were sisters. All girls bisexual (especially the sisters. Yummy). All under 21 years old and slim / spinners.
Suite at the Sheraton, nice wine and food for you and the girls, some champagne also.
Endless hours of fun and photos and videos.
Of course you may have done this already.
My next splurge invovles college girls and a bondage club plus all the ladies will eay pussy. Wish I was as creative at work as I am at this hooby LOL.
PS a fifth girl turned up later and she was also bisexial and had shagged all the other 4 before with me at various times. She came 'univited' but how could I say no. LOL
Hi guys,
As promised, here we go with my first TD (test drive) from Bangkok.
NAME: yin (or some other unpronounceable name)
NAC: Thai.
LOCATION: Dream hotel (easy to get lady in; kept their I'd and called me asking if she could leave when she got downstairs. Nice touch! I'm sure the 300 tip at check-in (100x3. Bell boy, cute reception girl and some kind of concierge lad. Did not make any difference.
AGE: says 26 (should not be too far out)
ALTURA: 1. 55.
PESO: 45KG (didn't have the scales but was light enough when going up and down the young man)
DAMAGE: 600BF + 2000 bht ST + 100 tip to mamasan + 100 tip to the girl (I know. 100 to the bell boy and 100 only to the girl. Bad boy! Will explain in a second why).2800 damage excluding drinks
DURATION OF THE TD: around 70 minutes + shower
HAIR: dark, shoulder length, nice cut.
FACE: (7/10) pretty.
BODY: (7/10) Petite. Good shape.
ASS: (7/10) nice and tight as hell. Getting there soon
TITS: (8/10) big for thai average; great long and dark nipples, no artificial diesel in it.
FK: very reluctant at first but then was going a bit wild (latin dick in ass does not tend to fail hehe)
ORAL: (2/10) pretty crap; could not put more than 10% in her month and kept cleaning it with towel; tried with condom to see it would improve. Same crap.
PUSSY: (trimmed; very tight (struggled to get more than 2 fingers in and I have small fingers) , very responsive clit.
ATTITUDE: (5/10) mixed feelings; language barrier probably didn't help much.
HYGIENE (8/10) : had to ask her to take a shower but then she was the one washing everything all the time.
RACE TRACK (BEDROOM) (8/10) : classic suite (thanks for the upgrade Dream) ; cool blue lights. Girl was impressed.
MASSAGE (1/10) : didn't seem her thing so got her to focus on other stuff (ing) instead.
So, how did we get here.
MY first time in Bangkok, met with a fellow member of the forum (will not mention his name here as I have not really asked for his permission). We had a pretty bad pad thai at some expat pub next to the nana roundabout and then hit several bars in the nana complex (need to make sure I wear my glasses next time. The place is packed with LB and without glasses I need to get closer to be sure. No need to make any jokes just yet guys as I can see pretty well from a couple of meters away).
First we went to the rainbow at the right end corner downstairs (can't remember which number that one is. Next to some LD bar) ; then to another couple of rainbows, spankys, and some other ones I can't really remember the name. I had spotted this girl in the 1st bar but was way too early to BF so we filled our tanks over a couple of hours and then picked our girls (he got one from rainbow 4 (some hotties but a lot of average girls as well. Some young talent spotted) and I got my original girl from the first place we went to.
In spite of the difficulty to communicate things were looking fine until we got to the hotel. As soon as we were in the room, she told me straight away she had to do ST and was one hour. Well, mr. Nasty woke up and tried to make up his mind: do I fuck her in the ass really hard or send her home? The ass runway was way too nice to ignore so.
"forced" shower which I joined a few minutes later; start rubbing her pussy, kissed her neck a bit, some soap and bang. Middle finger up the ass. She grabbed the junior and started wanking it nicely. Maybe she wanted to finish it off. Maybe she was really enjoying it (good chance it was the 2nd theory)
Out and onto the bed.
-terrible BJ. One of the worst.
- got her to come on top and fucked her really hard until she came. Finger in the ass was doing some magic.
- a few more positions and some foot-down banging. Could hear the engine roar and roar. 100km in split seconds and then just hard on. No braking in spite of very slippery surface.
- turn around darling and I will be nice to you."no no. Me pain. Me pain." You wait, I will do it slowly.
- few minutes of struggling and FUCK IT. Legs up and dick straight in all the way. Swear she didn't scream much.
- about 10 minutes of hard ass pounding and then COF, neck and tits (with her trying to cover her face)
The girl went to have shower bla bla, complained too much boom boom, prefer japanese as they sleep fast bla bla. And then told me she really enjoyed and would like to see me again. I said maybe but remember I will fuck your ass non-stop for 2 hours if you come back."You nice boom boom." Don't tell me the * actually enjoyed the pain and the hard ass fuck!
The junior has a bruise. Maybe I did go too hard on her after all.
Time too sleep. Thanks everyone for all the useful tips and advice I got from fellow members. Special thanks to my co-pilot / pilot of tonight.
MV
[QUOTE=Allover; 1318235]Bionicman, we were there early Monday afternoon. I like to have a girl in the afternoon and then visit the gogos at night looking for a second girl when I have the energy to do it twice. For me BJ Nuru will probably be my main day time option.
Nuru Guru, we did speak to each other during my visit. I appreciated the fact that you were sincerely concerned that we have a good time at your place. I think that is important to any business. The number of beautiful girls available early in the day was amazing. I hope you can keep that crew together for a long time.[/QUOTE]Hello Allover. Yes I remember you and I'm glad to know you had a good time here, I also hope to keep this crew for a very long time! Thank you again!
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1318644]Nana Liquid was handing out flyers for free admission. I decided to give it whirl and went in and found hardly anyone there LOL. Took a leak and then made a dash for the exit. I think they can't compete with insomnia, a much classier joint.
Was very impressed with the talent at Rainbow 4. The place was full of hot girls and hardly saw any ugly ones. Did they send all the ugly ones to Dr BJ Nuru?[/QUOTE]I tried to get into Nana Liquid around midnight recently. They were charging 200 baht entry fee, that included one drink.
Early in the year I found it was free to walk in.
Recent reports re the looks at Rainbow 4 are quite mixed. Perhaps we can attribute that to difference in opinions of what constitutes a "hot girl". Some guys found hardly anything there worth looking at. Depending on when one drops in, the lineup could change a lot, too. Are the girls & atmosphere there still colder than ice?
I was in the Nana Parking Lot the other day & it was like being alone, as the only customer, with 30 girls to choose from. ST usually only 1000 baht.
You never go back they say. Well, since I worked some time in Western Africa I can say that this is very true. In particular, I enjoyed many of these slender full breasted chocolate beauties in Ivory Coast, Burkina Faso and Cameroon, which on top of being francophone ("Tu veux jouir dans ma bouche mon coeur?" LOL) are also often for free since a "mari blanc", a white husband, is considered to be a gift from God. Or the solution to all the problems, let them believe it.
Am I rambling? I often do when talking about pussy. LOL, ok back to the point.
Some months ago I did some field testing and picked a couple of nice looking small nigerians (initially claiming to be from Ghana) in low Suk. Both proved to be nice persons, cute (one rather hot) and overall fun to be with for one or two hours. BUT the service was really mechanical and without any sign of pleasure or involvement to the point that I suspect the circumcision, quite frequent in the region. In addition the control over those girls was really stifling, with one I went 15 minutes for a beer near NEP and the poor girl received 8 (eight!) calls just to chech what she was doing. Well, all in all in both cases I paid my 1000 bht and I happily went back to the local supply.
Back to present. On Wednesday night I had just left Dr BJ cabinet after an unsuccessful blowjob (too tired, some stomach ache, too much sex in the last two weeks, in the end I could not come.) when I saw this stunning round arse wrapped in a tight blue dress on two flawless black legs. No heels. The lady was leaving the Star Inn hand in hand with a middle aged gentleman and they split at the end of soi. When she turned to farewell the guy I could see that her face was as good as her bum. Hornydog mode on, I understood I had to screw her. LOL.
Somehow she disappeared in the crowd but after some half an hour I found her near the Nana BTS escalator sitting with a friend. We chatted a bit and she explained me she's 23 from Kenya, here in Thailand for one month. I am not familiar with the accent so I cannot confirm her nationality, but for sure she is anglophone. Even if I was not sure I wanted to screw her that night she ended up convincing me with solid arguments: one hour, uncovered BJ, DFK etc etc, so basically all I wanted except for anal and bareback intercourse. All this for 1000 bht.
Back to the Star Inn (they should make her the customer of the month LOL) she undressed and revealed a beautiful body and skin unfortunately spoiled by a pair of saggy tits (shit!).
After the shower she asked me if she should blow me covered or uncovered (guess what I answered?) and when she went down at me she really proved to know how to please a man. Loooong and slow at the beginning then faster, perfect suction and no time pressure. When I put on the condom she asked me if I minded her to use KY but then she realized she had left the tube to her friend. She had been so nice to me that I proposed to help her and I went for a DATY session. After some seconds I started asking myself what I was doing there, I mean, a SW, no medical control etc etc. I admit that this idea turned me a bit off even though she smelled and tasted great. But then when I put my finger in I could sense that she was wet, but I mean WET, dripping, soaking wet! Well, the rest is something I'll remember for some months, several positions, a lot of DFK and no time pressure at all. She finished me cowgirl with her tongue in my mouth (and me looking at the mirror in the ceiling, LOL).
To end up the report, she claims she's free to decide when to work (she gets some days off) she can go long time and she is open to dates for dinner if one is interested. No thai food though.
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1318828]GB.
For my birthday sometime ago my good ISG mate JSBach splurged for his pressie to me and maybe take some isdeas from this:
4 girls, two of which were sisters. All girls bisexual (especially the sisters. Yummy). All under 21 years old and slim / spinners.
Suite at the Sheraton, nice wine and food for you and the girls, some champagne also.
Endless hours of fun and photos and videos.
Of course you may have done this already.
My next splurge invovles college girls and a bondage club plus all the ladies will eay pussy. Wish I was as creative at work as I am at this hooby LOL.
PS a fifth girl turned up later and she was also bisexial and had shagged all the other 4 before with me at various times. She came 'univited' but how could I say no. LOL[/QUOTE]Where did you find such ladies?
Link seems to be dead.
[QUOTE=Mauldid; 1318739][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch[/url]
%3Fv%3DADPjOBCAmFU.
One of his many videos infiltrating the under belly of BKK. Check out his collection.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1319015]Where did you find such ladies?[/QUOTE]LOL.
They find each other, but initially some were friends of friends. And I treat tehm well, show am kinky but nawty and respectful. It all comes from there.
3 of the 5 are now in Manila. 1 in HK and other still UAE.
A memorable time and one that I intend to replicate soon. It is possible just be patient GB and have good friends.
[quote=dr bj; 1317389]the way i evaluate the quality of service is through customer feedback. verbally, via e-mail and on the various forums. firstly i always inform the lady about the content of the feedback, secondly the ladies want repeat customers so try to give the best service possible. for me to "try the ladies out" would in the long run be very unwise and cause a mountain of problems i would prefer to avoid. anyway this is bangkok so it's not like i don't have other places to go for my own gratification.
regards,
bj[/quote]imho there are essentially two types of who work bj bars, inexperienced new arrivals and over the hill providers. the new arrivals wouldn't know the difference between a prick and a corn on the cob and while no doubt some old timers can give a good gobble particularly when they take their teeth out why waste time and money on a granny when there is so much young attractive talent available just around the corner. any girl with a good body a little english and half a brain will go where she can make the most money and lets be honest that is not sucking dicks for a few hundred baht a pop. of the available venue's dr. bj. on 7 is by far the best presented, my problem with it is that i am going for a down and dirty bj not a scaling and polishing. when i was young and foolish i preferred the sleazy feel of star of light in patpong which had the best line up. if you can call any line up at a bj bar attractive or even [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s on 8. i stopped wasting my money before lollipop opened so never ventured. just my two cents worth.
cheers
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1319051]LOL.
They find each other, but initially some were friends of friends. And I treat tehm well, show am kinky but nawty and respectful. It all comes from there.
3 of the 5 are now in Manila. 1 in HK and other still UAE.
A memorable time and one that I intend to replicate soon. It is possible just be patient GB and have good friends.[/QUOTE]They were probably not that great looking though right.
I can't settle for average girls on a special occasion
[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1319093]They were probably not that great looking though right. I can't settle for average girls on a special occasion[/QUOTE]Let me step in evern if <WR doesn't need a lawyer. From the pictures I have seen coming from WR through the years I am in ISG (maybe 4-5) I can say I never seen any girl "not great looking"
On the contrary I have always seen quite high end looking girls, and that vouchers good for him as somehoe "easy" to find an aevarege or below average girl up to anything as long as someone pays attention to her.
Not the case with WR, trust me. I do not recommend, in this case, to RTFF as you would be stucked for long to go through WR contributions, but he certainly knows how to do proper pick ups. Not to mention the vareity of "games" and fun he puts together. Certainly not a guy "go mish, wham-bam-tank-you-m'am"
Just my 2 cents
Was tempted to go to Eden (checked the girls a bit later and there were some very pretty ones; not many though. Micky the manager / owner is the stereotype of the 70's pimp: red shirt; smart trousers; pony tail and comboy like shoes) but ended up at Dr BJ Nuru.
Quality of the girls was not bad. Some pretty ones and a lot of decent ones.
On suggestion of the manager, we looked at 9, 21 and 50. My mate ended up with 9 (the nice one I think) and I picked 21 (was tempted to go for 50 but she was upstairs and I could not really see her very well from the distance).
Facts:
Place: nice touch; clean; decent standard rooms.
Time: around 15. 30.
Girls: worth a visit; no real stunners but nice quality around. Saw a couple more of pretty ones when I was leaving the place; guess they had just arrived.
Girl: young (20 yo) ; small body, nice tits, bit flat ass; darkish skin;
Service:
-massage with Nuru gel (no smell, slippery but easy to rub off with quick shower) Girl threw some over me and started rubbing her body all over. Have to give her credit for working really hard; I could feel her breasts; ass; pussy etc working my back, legs, arms etc. Nice to relax in the afternoon but not enough reason to repeat. Worth one go though.
- some really nice HJ and tit fuck followed by a pretty bad BBBJ. This was disappointing: fair enough the girl was young but at Dr BJ one would expect the speciality of the house is BJ.
I am starting to think thai girls don't know how to suck. Have to get as many bjs over the next couple of days as I would not like to leave the country with this impression hehehe. Research purposes only of course.
- then girl on top; mish; spoons; more spoons (other side) ; legs all the way up (on my shoulders) doggie; while trying to prepare hole number 3.
- hole and#3: she seemed to enjoy the finger. Did get the junior in but she just seemed to uncomfortable and was trying to run away so after a few seconds got it out and back onto to doggie.
- cumshot: on her breasts; pointed to COF but she moved her head away; did not offer CIM so again a bit disappointing.
Overall experience: the Italian manager seems to be a nice guy and care about service and place which is clean; girls seemed to have a very positive attitude; got a lot of attention from other girls both when I was going up and coming back down afterwards. The girl was very sweet but will need to learn a few more tricks and open her mouth a bit more. I am sure you guys will touch her some new skills.
Nice afternoon experience in an enjoyable relaxed place; recommended if one wants to save some energy for wilder evenings.
If I was a BKK resident would for sure repeat but as I am just passing by will check other places.
And remember: pussy is never free so must be enjoyed at all times.
MV
just returned from my first 'trip' to amazing thailand-thanks to all the brothers and their invaluable info on the forum. my apologizes to the seniors here as my report is limited in scope and is probably more for a newbie as you guys have seen it all. however i owe a lot to this forum and let me share my novice experience.
a bit of background for perception sake (could help newbies).
- i am an indian expat (that's a low score in mongering world-universal truth. we can't control where we are born, but this forum taught me that the score can be improved by an appropriate approach. i. e, everyone wants the right price, but there is a difference between buying a porn cd and approaching a wg. yah, i know both give similar ending but can't treat a wg like a 'thing').
- i don't drink / smoke. (a low score with some girls- can perceive me to be less fun). this also means no beer bars / go-go bars (yet) – implies fewer options
- i m 3 4, at best, on looks & age- doesn't help much either.
- i m more comfortable with fl scene- options reduced to a low %
why all these. even with these limitations & a very small canvas, i did have reasonably good fun. those of you fence sitters (as i was) yet to take the plunge but hesitating, get you're a* out there and go for it and have fun. i am sure you can do it better.
i did a couple of reports three years ago on kl forums where i took the first step in. however what i did in last three years is considered a 'sin' & probably broke one of the commandments of mongering world. baptized into the mongering world in kl, tried a few, met a 21 yr old philli, stuck with her for a few months until she returned home permanently. few months of no-action followed by a few trial and errors again and met this gorgeous viet, stuck with her for three years, until she returned to her country too. the arrangement was simple, when i m in kl we stick to each other, when i m not she is free to explore. never discussed so but things worked out that way. this separation took its toll emotionally and from the pain, came the realization. all this while thought quality is more important than quantity, but how wrong was i? it's all about variety not quantity- should have paid attention to all the wise-men in this forum. so here i am, having taken my first field trip.
day-1: reached bkk at 6pm and checked into the pres. pal. hotel on soi-11. decent place and gf too. while approaching the lift saw this beautiful and hot, a 9. 5 if not more, girl followed by a man from the land of the rising sun. (yup i know, read it many times on the forum, how often these guys manage to pick the exotic ones). after flying to kl that morning, meeting a client for a few hours and then flying to bkk, it was a bit tiring. but was in no mood to let the opportunity go. so slept for a few hours, had some grub and at around 12:00am walked towards nana parking lot, all the while keeping an eye on the available opportunities on the street. found nothing of interest on the way, however found a nice one at the parking lot, standing at the front facing the nana plaza. approached her and she said only st. saw another one of interest inside the parking area, approached and was offered st again. so walked further into soi-4 and while returning disappointed, saw another girl at the parking again, slowed down a bit and smiled at her-she returned the smile, thus scoring a few points with me. approached her, was quoted 3k for lt. i said nothing but looked at my watch and she laughed. she immediately reduced it to 2. 5k (probably felt more talent would be available to me at 1:00am, once the nearby bars close) , and i was ok with it. on the way out i showed her the girls who refused lt and asked her if it's the norm. she wasn't certain specifically but said a few of them does have to return before early hours for whatever reason.
anyway, back at the hotel, the usual shower and to the main course. the girl was a lot fun, agreed to most of my wishes (i am a bit on the conservative side anyway). realized that she looked a couple of years older in full light but fortunately, off the clothes, she was fitter than i expected. no flab and medium sized assets. she stayed late into the day next, was ready for more but i was tired. she gave a good massage. took her name (aum) and, as insurance in case i don't hit on any of the following days.
day-2: completely wasted as i caught a bit of fever, probably due to extensive travel and hectic work schedule and change in food / water. whatever. contemplated of calling aum from the previous night but decided against it.
day-3: was raring to go after a wasted night. took a round trip to nana parking lot- found nothing of interest at 10:00pm. didn't see the girl from day-1 either. had light dinner and decided to walk into nana liquid. on the way saw a couple of girls sitting on the side and saw a real cutie. a closer look revealed a great cleavage and a very young and beautiful face. sat beside her and started talking. she didn't budge below 3k for lt. i normally don't ask for a price, i just see if they ask me what i like to pay or they themselves reduce it to what i like. anyway took her as it is pretty reasonable. back at the hotel and a bit of talk, came to know she is ann. 21 and works in nana plaza (sorry i forgot the bar name) but remember that she told me it's on the ground floor towards your left when you enter. i have never been inside anyway). surprisingly she had a small belly which she said because of the high number of beers she takes every day with customers. she was good in bed, a better dfk than the previous girl and very accommodative. (note for indians. : she said when picked by a client in the bar, as long as it is an indian, her boss decides whether she would go with him. so guys give a good vibe when you are in).
day-4: walked the same round trip as on previous days- talent was disappointing. decided to take the club route which i am more comfortable with, got into climax. after a few cokes (the club guys really push you for drinks on a continuous basis and they are too many of them) saw one in red, tall and sexy near the dance podium. on observation, saw that she turned down a couple of brothers who approached her, but still wanted to try. so bought a drink for one of the bar boys (he was pestering me for a drink for almost half hour as i was sitting alone sipping on bloody cokes).one shot of tequila for 420b- wtf. on asking him if she was a regular, said he didn't see her before but i told him to talk to her and set it up. he came empty handed, said she just came with her girl friends for fun. the entire night i haven't seen any of the girls from that group talking to any brothers anyway. one hour into the club, saw a tall, thin girl passing by me, eyes following her. there she was a few tables away with a couple of other girls. she finally noticed that i am watching her, gave me a smile a few times. finally made my move, walked over to her had decent conversation. she looked better closer, popped the q. 3k for lt, settled with that.
trouble started 15mins later; this girl who turned out to be her younger sister joins us. better looks, nice body (sure 8+) and more fun. my big bro started making noise, but i decided to stick with the older one. this group of girls was fun, so decided to stick around for some more time. another hour in the club, a few moves and cokes later saw a gorgeous looking babe (an easy 10 and ++ if i can give more) entering with couple of others and taking the table next to us. couldn't decide whether to concentrate on her face or body, didn't bother what the girls i m with were thinking about me. 10mins into the club the 10++ girl had a few stop by but her reaction kept them moving ahead. my big bro started talking again, and i almost was planning to make a move, even if it means paying a bit to the original girl. meanwhile a guy, an 8 on looks, approached her and the way she reacted pissed me off just watching it, but the guy moved away with a smile. learnt a lesson from him, move on with a smile inspite of such reaction – don't spoil your night. you didn't come to bkk just to f* that one girl. thanked my big bro for not dictating terms, with a 4 on looks myself, would have got the worst possible reaction.
back at hotel, the girl said she is jenny (not sure if these names are for work purposes only) and they always try and sit at the same table, the rear table at the middle of the section facing the band. she was really tight and that made my day. she was a bit low on gfe compared to the previous girl but her body was the best yet. stayed late into the next day but was a bit reluctant to give it a go in the morning.
day-5: again took the fixed root towards nana parking lot. saw a reasonably sexy african, great a* (of course they do have them) , not fat at all and dressed pretty decent (nothing was popping out as they usually do). i saw her on a couple of nights on the way from soi-11 to nana. they are a few of them, some plain ugly, some ok and this one is good, can be a good backup. i spent with a few when i had been to lagos last year. try them guys, some of them can be fun.
anyway decided to walk towards terminal 21 from soi-11. saw a couple of real cuties on the way (closer to thermae, which i realized for the first time) , but walked further, but found none interesting. big mistake, on the way back, both of them are gone- that's quick, brothers. lesson learnt, if you see someone very cute approach them, there are many smart guys who wouldn't let a cutie stand long waiting to be picked up and you might end up empty handed.
disappointed, went into climax. suddenly remembered, how desperate i was, to get the younger sister on the previous day. saw her friends but neither of the sisters. about 10:45 entered jenny but alone. i waited for further half hour, but no entry of the younger one. made my move to ask her about her sister and f*k, she latched onto me. she popped the q, but i just smiled, waiting for the younger one to enter- shameless are we? it was already 1:00am, and i finally gave into her qs and agreed to take her back again. wtf, within 5min, enter her sister and she looked sexier and it was a sinking feeling. somehow decided to stick to jenny. saw another girl in black (a definite 9) glancing over and few smiles. felt like sinking deeper- perverted mind- can't hold it.
back to the hotel, gfe quotient was better than previous day, more positions, but a no again to one more pop in the morning. damage was 3k again and of course some taxi money.
day-6: made up my mind to either take the younger one or the one in black the previous day. so direct into climax again and straight towards the regular table (jenny and her friends) , ahh, saw the younger one already with one of our brothers. could have taken her number and called her earlier. jenny smiled at me but didn't make a move, was a bit surprised but felt better- realized why later as another brother joined her after a few minutes. settled in, looking for the lady in black from the previous night. found her a few tables away, moved towards her but saw her sharing the table with another brother. wtf, looks like everyone else moved in for an early kill? anyway sat across them and watched them- surprisingly there was no chemistry visible in 30mins and that raised green flags. the guy left and i moved in immediately, a hello and she asked me, if i come every night there. aha atleast she recognized me but told me she is not feeling well that night and wouldn't like to go out. frustrating, but i didn't want to waste my last two days in bkk, so talked with her a few more minutes and politely excused myself. walked over to the next table and was contemplating my next move. surprisingly another halfhr in the club, she continued to exchange glances and smiles with me, wondered if she found anything amusing.
then enter a couple of girls, an 8. 5 and a 9. 5 grabbing my attention. watched them for 15mins, the 8. 5 was nice smiles and looked more fun while the 9. 5 is keeping to herself. didn't take my eyes off them as i didn't want to miss another chance. exchanged a few smiles with the 8. 5 and indicated her to join me as i felt she was more fun. as she came closer to me, i glanced over to the lady in black and surprisingly she gave me a disgusting look. the 8. 5 came straight to the point (and that was a first for me) , quoted 5k. my reaction said it all, and she laughed. she said she was joking and immediately quoted 3k. (not sure if she tried to hit the bull's eye in the dark- nothing to lose isn't it?). i immediately agreed as she looked the best of the week (that i have spent time with) and moved to her table. her friend looked even better as i got closer. spent a couple of hours with them in the club. noticed that her friend saying no to many.
left the club at around 2am, on the way, to my query she said her friend is getting married to a spanish guy next month and that they are already live together. so if any of the brothers here is the guy, congratulations man and good luck-she looks amazing and you are one lucky soul.
back to hotel, she was the best i ever spent in my short mongering life. she said she is horny and wants to cum first and she literally raped me and i was more than happy. she took the life out of me. i spent many many nights with my viet and philli long term girls, and they are great gfe, but my word this one was different. she told me she rarely comes to this club (just came there to join her friend) and frequents the club in hyatt (i believe it's called spasso) and told me that money is better there. fair enough. she is 22 and 8+ on looks and 9+ in body.
guys if you can manage to get her, i remember she calls herself som (probably another work name) , she is worth it. stayed late into next morning and i couldn't resist a pop in the morning-she was completely ok with it. the best part was the combination of looks / english skills / service levels / fun and age. i found many but they always lacked on one or more of the depts. believe me. anyway told her to join me for drinks (she drinks) and dinner the next day.
last day: as discussed, som was at my hotel perfect on time. she suggested playing pool, so off to soi-4. played pool, dinner, a few more drinks & dance in climax and back to the room. night went as perfect as the previous one. had to say a very very sad good bye to her next day as i had to leave bkk due to work.
there ends the trip of a novice. hope to return soon. in earlier short trips elsewhere, i have been rebuffed by many- some plain no and those that are kind, quoted exorbitant prices just to put me off nicely- fair enough. saw many during the week, whose looks make you feel if you had come to the wrong place but learnt slowly to be patient and pick the jewels. this was the most fruitful trip i had so far. the best part: i didn't manage to scrap the surface of the thai scene and that means a lot more excitement to come.
my only bellyache, inspite of lessons learnt, i am still inclined to make som my steady girl in bkk (whenever i go there) as long as she is there working. i know it's a cardinal sin, but i really liked her. let's see how things work out.
hope this basic report is useful to atleast one guy out there. whatever fun i had i owe it to the forum. hoping to return soon.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1319104]Let me step in evern if <WR doesn't need a lawyer. From the pictures I have seen coming from WR through the years I am in ISG (maybe 4-5) I can say I never seen any girl "not great looking"
On the contrary I have always seen quite high end looking girls, and that vouchers good for him as somehoe "easy" to find an aevarege or below average girl up to anything as long as someone pays attention to her.
Not the case with WR, trust me. I do not recommend, in this case, to RTFF as you would be stucked for long to go through WR contributions, but he certainly knows how to do proper pick ups. Not to mention the vareity of "games" and fun he puts together. Certainly not a guy "go mish, wham-bam-tank-you-m'am"
Just my 2 cents[/QUOTE]
Why don't you just ask him out already jeez
Anyways I already hit my milestone about an hour ago
Couldn't be bothered to set up anything too elaborate
turned out fine though
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; ]Anyways I already hit my milestone about an hour ago.
Couldn't be bothered to set up anything too elaborate.
Turned out fine though[/QUOTE]Maybe I am thick as a brick but can't understand the rational of coming here, ask for suggestions on how to celebrate your milestone, somebody gives you some hints, you bash back and then you say you could not bothered to set up, anything too elaborate. Means people trying to help have bothered too much? Maybe suggesting a 7-11 was a better option.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1319187]Maybe I am thick as a brick but can't understand the rational of coming here, ask for suggestions on how to celebrate your milestone, somebody gives you some hints, you bash back and then you say you could not bothered to set up, anything too elaborate. Means people trying to help have bothered too much? Maybe suggesting a 7-11 was a better option.[/QUOTE]How was that a good hint? You think I couldn't think up "have sex with a bunch of horny bisexual girls in a hotel room" on my own?
If he had told me an establishment where this can be easily arranged, or pmed me their phone numbers, it would have actually been useful,
In that case I would have understood your erotic longings for mr. Roger.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1319093]They were probably not that great looking though right.
I can't settle for average girls on a special occasion[/QUOTE]Unfortunately for you GB they were not average. Those that know me well will tell you the girls I am with are stunners and sexy, I am very fussy and particular as is JSBach. Look at the recent comments in the UAE Photo Gallery for example. Track back and see as the 5 girls who appeared that day were all very pretty and not at all average.
So they are out there you just need to find and be patient. Something many mongers seem not to have
My latest is a FHM model who appeared recently in the magazine. That is the sort of lady I like to be with. And of course Cebu hottie and her peach LOL (as Red Kilt to explain that one LOL)
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1319236]How was that a good hint? You think I couldn't think up "have sex with a bunch of horny bisexual girls in a hotel room" on my own?
If he had told me an establishment where this can be easily arranged, or pmed me their phone numbers, it would have actually been useful,
In that case I would have understood your erotic longings for mr. Roger.[/QUOTE]Gents.
Why all this lather over some celebratory suggestions.
GB. I said in the original FRs that these were ladies I knew over a period of time and I don't go to any establishment ever to arrange such. Not my style / scene (eg some will insist that Lady Marmalade parties are great, not me!).
Also I don't PM numbers wihout knowing more. Always a good rule for anyone here to remember.
And I said the girls have now gone various ways and different geographies. So hard, even for me, to see them all again even though I am still in contact with 4 of the 5 girls (and yes I have their latest contact details)
Each person can arrange their own celebration. JSBach did for me once he understood what I lkiekd (well he knew as he is as naughty as WR I contend!) as I am not a 'party planner' unless I am part pof the party.
See the FR below, my latest cutie is a FHM model and most guys here would not turn her (or her friends) away. But I have known her a while and we are now planning a little party which will involve me teaching her some naughty and very likely kinky things (FF can I borrow your school uniforms please LOL.). And lots of lingerie and other appropriate clothes!
Bionic. If you ever get any eroitc feelings / longing for me please PM me immediately then go to the hospital and take some tablets. Or pass me the gun so I can shoot you LOL
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger; 1319242]Gents.
Why all this lather over some celebratory suggestions.
GB. I said in the original FRs that these were ladies I knew over a period of time and I don't go to any establishment ever to arrange such. Not my style / scene (eg some will insist that Lady Marmalade parties are great, not me!).
Also I don't PM numbers wihout knowing more. Always a good rule for anyone here to remember.
And I said the girls have now gone various ways and different geographies. So hard, even for me, to see them all again even though I am still in contact with 4 of the 5 girls (and yes I have their latest contact details)
Each person can arrange their own celebration. JSBach did for me once he understood what I lkiekd (well he knew as he is as naughty as WR I contend!) as I am not a 'party planner' unless I am part pof the party.
See the FR below, my latest cutie is a FHM model and most guys here would not turn her (or her friends) away. But I have known her a while and we are now planning a little party which will involve me teaching her some naughty and very likely kinky things (FF can I borrow your school uniforms please LOL.). And lots of lingerie and other appropriate clothes!
Bionic. If you ever get any eroitc feelings / longing for me please PM me immediately then go to the hospital and take some tablets. Or pass me the gun so I can shoot you LOL[/QUOTE]Right well I'm not interested in watching you stroke your ego or in your weird homosexual flirtations with other forum members.
If you have any useful information please post it.
Too much chest puffing on this forum.
Been reading the post on this thread and I have got to say, some pretty damn good info.
Keep up the good work!
Hope this makes sense. Enter Soi Cowboy from Sukhumvit entrance, walk all the way to end, then turn right, and there are a couple of bars. Just a regular bar, but girls full dressed. Just a small bar, with no type of gogo scene. Had a beer there, and bought a girl of about 30 years a drink. But I'm thinking the girls there are game for something right there in the bar.
Anyone try this one out?
There is also another bar just beyond that has pool tables. Did not get same vibe there, although it seemed a very decent place to hang out.
[QUOTE=Papae Noel; 1319272]But I'm thinking the girls there are game for something right there in the bar.
Anyone try this one out?
There is also another bar just beyond that has pool tables. Did not get same vibe there, although it seemed a very decent place to hang out.[/QUOTE]IMHO all the business in SC area except for the Dutch restaurant are pay-for-play ones. You may find the sporadic girl who is out of the game but not the bar itself.
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger;1319242]Bionic. If you ever get any eroitc feelings / longing for me please PM me immediately then go to the hospital and take some tablets. Or pass me the gun so I can shoot you LOL[/QUOTE]I hope I will never get into those weird feelings. In case I do, just ask one of your girls to contact me. I am sure they are capable to turn any old cocksucker gay into a womaniser.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1319259]Right well I'm not interested in watching you stroke your ego or in your weird homosexual flirtations with other forum members.
If you have any useful information please post it.
Too much chest puffing on this forum.[/QUOTE]GB.
Don't get all twisted as this is neither ego stroking or some homo erotic trip. Go back to the UAE photo gallery 2009 around Oct / Nov and see for yourself as JSBach (or me) posted a few pictures of 4 girls asses doggy style. Is there so no ego just fact.
I haev posted the information you asked for. An idea of how to celebrate.
No chest puffing. As Bionic says, look at pictures as fact. As is my FHM date sometime next week when I retunr to PI (maybe week after) when I take her to HK or KL or Bangkok where she can be seriuosly naughty as too many people know her in her home city. Known her a long time and she remembers my kindness when she was on a real donwer.
So nothing about ego or chext pumping and if you are concern about a mild joke concerning Bio and me fancying each other well so be it. Chill
[QUOTE=Papae Noel; 1319272]Hope this makes sense. Enter Soi Cowboy from Sukhumvit entrance, walk all the way to end, then turn right, and there are a couple of bars. Just a regular bar, but girls full dressed. Just a small bar, with no type of gogo scene. Had a beer there, and bought a girl of about 30 years a drink. But I'm thinking the girls there are game for something right there in the bar.
Anyone try this one out?
There is also another bar just beyond that has pool tables. Did not get same vibe there, although it seemed a very decent place to hang out.[/QUOTE]You're in the bar, you bought the girl a drink, presumably you sit together and chat so what stopped you from asking her? No need to come here and ask for second hand information when you could have had it first hand, just ask her next time.
Anyone in Thailand now?
[QUOTE=Kabeer;1319528]Anyone in Thailand now?[/QUOTE]No the country's empty. What a stupid question is that?
[QUOTE=Kabeer;1319528]Anyone in Thailand now?[/QUOTE]OK everybody, let's all raise our hands for Kabeer.
There is a thread called Travel Plans and Announcements if you are trying to enlist a wingman.
[QUOTE=Kabeer;1319528]Anyone in Thailand now?[/QUOTE]Well Kabir,
I 'm in Thailand Chiang Mai and will be in BKK starting today. Thanks for informing me that you are there. Now I know I have to stay clear!
On a serious note, this is your first post on ISG and would be great if you RTFF and report back some of your escapades. You have a plan around that?
Red Mosquito
[QUOTE=Red Mosquito; 1319593]Well Kabir,
I 'm in Thailand Chiang Mai and will be in BKK starting today. Thanks for informing me that you are there. Now I know I have to stay clear!
On a serious note, this is your first post on ISG and would be great if you RTFF and report back some of your escapades. You have a plan around that?
Red Mosquito[/QUOTE]LOL, awesome
[QUOTE=Papae Noel; 1319272]Hope this makes sense. Enter Soi Cowboy from Sukhumvit entrance, walk all the way to end, then turn right, and there are a couple of bars. Just a regular bar, but girls full dressed. Just a small bar, with no type of gogo scene. Had a beer there, and bought a girl of about 30 years a drink. But I'm thinking the girls there are game for something right there in the bar.
Anyone try this one out?
There is also another bar just beyond that has pool tables. Did not get same vibe there, although it seemed a very decent place to hang out.[/QUOTE]Just goes to show, Some guys with a pocket full of money, sitting in a working girl house, still couldn't get laid!
[QUOTE=Papae Noel;1319272]Hope this makes sense. Enter Soi Cowboy from Sukhumvit entrance, . . . .[/QUOTE]Does not really make sense. Soi Cowboy runs parallel to Sukhumvit road. The two main entrances are from Sukhumvit Soi 21 (Asoke) and from Sukhumvit Soi 23 (Prasanmit). Is there a "Sukhumvit" entrance? Not sure what you might mean. I guess we must work backwards starting from the bar with pool tables.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1319626]Does not really make sense. Soi Cowboy runs parallel to Sukhumvit road. The two main entrances are from Sukhumvit Soi 21 (Asoke) and from Sukhumvit Soi 23 (Prasanmit). Is there a "Sukhumvit" entrance? Not sure what you might mean. I guess we must work backwards starting from the bar with pool tables.[/QUOTE]My guess he means the Suk 23 end. As I recall there is a Ship Inn as you leave Soi Cowboy and turn right. Can't remember any girlie bars there (from Nov 2011).
[QUOTE=Kabeer;1319528]Anyone in Thailand now?[/QUOTE]Post of the year. Imo.
Any of harold444 post a close 2nd LOL
[QUOTE=Monte3;1319613]Just goes to show, Some guys with a pocket full of money, sitting in a working girl house, still couldn't get laid![/QUOTE]Sure thing Monte3,
That definitely proves everything.
Several responses, but no answers.
Syzygies. Actually, it is the Asoke (Soi 21) entrance to SC, that I misidentified as the Sukhumvit entrance. Thank you.
[QUOTE=HotPowers; 1317426]Come cross to a site and order prostate massage. I went there. A ladies wash my feet and bring me upstair. It is Aroma oil massage room with a bathtub.
She gave me a very very very good massage around 1 hr. I was sleeping, suddenly another girl came in the room and touch me softly and sometime scratch on my back in soft way. She do a bit teasing me. Then she massage my butt. Then she do prostate massage. It was fantastic feeling. So I lose control.
Good to have this experience. It is on Sukhumvit 103. Soi Udomsuk 7. Call Nama Spa.
Regards,
H[/QUOTE]I perused the website of thois spa and nothing there suggested a prostate massage was on the menu.
Rosco
[QUOTE=Papae Noel;1319657]Syzygies. Actually, it is the Asoke (Soi 21) entrance to SC, that I misidentified as the Sukhumvit entrance. Thank you.[/QUOTE]Ok, so you're talking about the 2 Shabby bars on soi 23 then, Siamese Twin? Or a name like that? In one of these bars, you can go upstairs and fuck the lady on the pool table. I remember a report was written about that, dig it up.
One is called "Twins" and the other "Siamese Twins". As you said one can knock off a girl bent over the pool table or where ever. I had a buddy go in once. Myself? I make a wide circle around both when I am walking towards Sukhumvit.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1319677]Ok, so you're talking about the 2 Shabby bars on soi 23 then, Siamese Twin? Or a name like that? In one of these bars, you can go upstairs and fuck the lady on the pool table. I remember a report was written about that, dig it up.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Papae Noel;1319272]Hope this makes sense. Enter Soi Cowboy from Sukhumvit entrance.[/QUOTE]Either I got my orientation wrong but Soi cowboy is parallel to sukhumvit.
[QUOTE=Kabeer;1319528]Anyone in Thailand now?[/QUOTE]Any lights on? Yes? Some? Sheeet. No energy saving in program then. The last one leaving should have turned off the lights.
Kabeer, have you been watching "day after tomorrow" and still get nightmares?
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1319734]Any lights on? Yes? Some? Sheeet. No energy saving in program then. The last one leaving should have turned off the lights.
Kabeer, have you been watching "day after tomorrow" and still get nightmares?[/QUOTE]OMG I laughed from this "The day after tomorrow" comment. LOL and LOL.
Please beeing a relatively new to ISG myself (maby 4-5 months now. Jackson know, hehe) I think some of you old gamers give them all new a hard time and that may not be to great motivation to pay 19. 95US for uploading pics a tad bigger (not much I have to say) or sending recieving PM. In that way, scaring them away, also Jackson is loosing money I am sure he needs to keep this stuffs going. Or maby Jackson is running around in his Bentley with chaffeur and laugh at all the players paying, hehe.
No but instead of loose time and energy to reply a newbee with the same answer and get irritating. Often it seems you guys use more time on this than actually answering the exact question (just to flip the situation a bit, hehe). If we all behave this will be a much more educational forum. I read in avarage 20% of all postings of countries I am interested in. Should give me a nice clue. But it took time. I spend night and day and my belowed one asked me what I was doing up so late (I know how to delete my traces in a computer so she never saw this history in my computer, hehe). Single or no single I tend to spend time with a lot of women. I respect people don't do that but I also agree in diplomatical way they could read some. Maby 5-10 pages will give you a clu.
Just my 2 norwegian kroner.
[QUOTE=Skogis; 1319786]OMG I laughed from this "The day after tomorrow" comment. LOL and LOL.
Please beeing a relatively new to ISG myself (maby 4-5 months now. Jackson know, hehe) I think some of you old gamers give them all new a hard time and that may not be to great motivation to pay 19. 95US for uploading pics a tad bigger (not much I have to say) or sending recieving PM. In that way, scaring them away, also Jackson is loosing money I am sure he needs to keep this stuffs going. Or maby Jackson is running around in his Bentley with chaffeur and laugh at all the players paying, hehe.
Just my 2 norwegian kroner.[/QUOTE]It seems to me those guys are not newbie to ISG (only) but to whole life and need a wake up call.
Do you think those guys are keen to spend the 20 bucks? I don't, and probably others don't too.
Those guys think this is a travel agency, a bunch of missionaries, an affiliation or Samaritans, a secret organisation of pimps.
Or an online aid Center for sex urges, a sex alcoholic anonymous.
Hence they feel free to put any weird question with full disrespect for anyone here. Even to occasional lurkers.
These guys never see the light of the 11th post, but think we are going to miss them, honesty.
It doesn't take rocket science to know how to behave in a forum, any forum, whatever topic it is.
They simply don't know and I am positive they can care the less to learn.
Jackson is certainly happy of the "happy few" currently 'donating'. Look at the number quoted and do the math.
LMFAO. Kabeer, are you for real? Do you know where you are?
[QUOTE=Kabeer;1319528]Anyone in Thailand now?[/QUOTE]
A couple years ago, I made my first visit to SOL. I am, of course, looking for bareback sex! So the mamasan (or at least I THOUGHT she was the mamasan!) who said her name was Oi, offers herself up! So I took her in the bathroom, fucked her bareback (not a bad fuck, and a fairly decent body for a 40 year old!) and came in her pussy. After which she tells me that next time, like in the rental car commercial, I can "pick any girl in the aisle" (for bareback sex). So, two days later, I returned, and picked out the much younger and hotter girl (big-tit Noc) , fucked her and came in her pussy right on the couch in the bar. Great time!
OK, so, I return again on another trip a few months later, I run into an different older gal at the bar. I told her that I know Oi, and am looking for bareback sex. Well, thst was apparently a BIG mistake! The older girl I talked to (and several other younger girls standing around) tells me that they HATE Oi! So, I was apparently persona non grata at SOL that day!
OK, fast forward, a year later. Oi is there again! Again, she offers herself up for bareback sex, so I took her in the bathroom and fucked her senseless and came inside her. But this time, she tells me her name is Min-but it was same deal-come back, and next time, choose any of the SOL girls for bareback sex! I would have surely done so, but that was in February (my last trip to BKK) , and was my last day in Thailand, so I was not able to go back.
OK-my question: Do any of of you SOL experts know this Oi or Min? And is this Standard Operating Procedure-if you want bareback sex in there, first you have to inseminate this Oi or Min chick? Any info or input regarding this would be great! I am returning to the City of Angeles in a few days, and would love to fuck some of those fine, younger SOL cuties bareback! But in order to do so, will I have to fuck this Oi / Min girl yet again before getting access to the hotter and younger pussy? What gives?
In preparation to my trip to BKK, registered on a couple of dating sites (TLL and DIA) hoping to enjoy some local talent on non-pro basis.
Did arrange to meet with a couple of girls but in the end saw only this one.
Summary of events:
- agreed to meet her at 9 on Friday and she arrived only at 11pm. Was getting rather annoyed but she kept calling and saying she was stuck in traffic / got lost again bla bla. Was starting to feel like a bloody newbie who was being made the center stage of some thai scheme but fortunately I was wrong. She did arrive finally, parked her car at hotel parking (Dream) and off we went to have a bite in square by Terminal 21.
- she had 1 beer and small salad (trying to stay slim; which proved to be the usual eating habit. Hard to believe someone can go on with so little food). I had a couple of cocktails and rice.
- back to hotel and she starts walking towards garage."where are you going, darling?". Took a bit of persuading but convinced her to come up to room for a chat / drink.
- spent a couple of hours doing this and then I said why don't you take the bed and I sleep here in the sofa? I think she relaxed a bit with the suggestion and some hour or so later we ended up in the bed together with the request I would not try anything.
- this was getting a bit frustrating but I must admit I was also enjoying the chase. By now it was about 4am and I didn't even have a bloody kiss.
- asked if she could do a nice massage;"yes, I can do". Great, but me first so started giving her a massage in the hope she would warm up a bit. The trick worked ("you massage make me want things".) but not enough just yet. Nice kissing, fondling but by now tiredness was taking the best of me so we hug and fell asleep.
- YOU BLOODY BASTARD; DON'T DO THIS TO ME!". What the f? It is the junior complaining / screaming at me so I wake up and (forced by the younger man, sir) start to touch her legs, arms, etc and started getting some yums and nice reactions.
- "you make me want to but no can't do.". Of course you can darling so I ended up in between her legs with some very nice DATY. Men, that was one soaking pussy. Some gentle fingering, g spot stimulation and big bang.
- another half an hour of fooling around and wow. Superb blowjob with deep throat and just the right pressure going up and down nice and slowly. Superb! I was starting to think thai girls couldn't blow and was on a mission to research deeper into the subject. Need to collect a few more samples as experiences so far are giving very distinct results hehe.
- Load down her throat, mouth, bed, hair, etc. Bit of kissing; need to do this to girls who blow you really nice so they feel appreciated and want to repeat.
- Whilst in the middle of it, there was chance of FS but I said we could wait. I must admit 1) I was playing and get her confidence so she would open up the next day and 2) was really enjoying a great blowjob and wanted to cum in her mouth.
A couple of hours sleep and she took me on a tour of BKK; thanks go to her phone friend I never met for all the instructions on how to get to places. Looked a great stunner from pictures but better not even think about it.
- Dinner, bottle of prosecco at Long Table. For those that have never been, this is a pretty cool rooftop place on Soi16, overlooking some park. Nice atmosphere and decent prices (3K bill incl. Drinks and plenty of very good food).
- Girl was impressed and the setting was ready for some action.
Back at the hotel and all sorts of bedroom shenanigans took off. I will spare most of the details as this post is already pretty long and I still have a day to cover.
It turns out the girl didn't have sex in 2 years (I like the idea she wasn't lying) and man that was a one tiny tight pussy. I could feel it around my finger the first night and oh my I could certainly feel it when I was trying to get in for the first time with my dick.
Some great sex all the way into the morning (missed breakfast again; 3 nights at dream and never made it to included in rate breakfast) thanks to some passionate attention for the young lady and the 1/4 of a 20mg Levitra pill. About 30 hours gone by now and 4 pops. Bill of around 4. 5K most of which from meal at Long Table and meals during sightseeing). Cannot complain.
Checked-out of Dream and checked-in at Royal Orchid Sheraton on the river. Great 26th floor view! She gave me a lift and came up to the room for another few rounds. Highlight: taking her from behind with her tits against the full glass window overlooking the river with COF / C on lips. Those multi-orgasms were quite a show. Scene deserves some adult entertainment attention.
A bit of emotional drama and off she left a few hours ago (6. 30am) as she had to go back to work.
POSiTIVES: great sex; great time with a lovely genuine girl (didn't even let me pay for her patrol, in spite of driving me around town for a day) with a fabulous body and superb tits. Not the most beautiful in town but then I never intended to have kids with her. Good way to get to know country, culture and aspirations of young girls that go to college to try and find a better life. Values of hard work and caring for other people.
NEGATIVES: would have felt better if she had asked me for money at the end of it all. Didn't take her up the ass (she says she will try if I come back). Didn't make it to pop and#10 (stopped at 8). Bit of goodbye drama from her side (I am too cynical for that by now) which made me feel even more of a bastard.
I did my best to treat her well but may have just hurt somebody. I think I may better go back into town right now and get myself a BJ to forget.
MV
Chat her up in one of restaurants in Sukhmvit.
Been over a week now, now gone as far as this pic (she sent on request)
Already starting to sound greedy, wants to book room in Sheraton which I am ok, wants spa and expensive dinners which again I can provide.
To top it of wants TBH 30, 000 for 2 whole days and some shopping :0.
You can see my few other posts. Just not to get punked I stick to MPs and reliable escorts.
Is this one worth it?
She is old wine, talks smart, I like that and a hard worker, I've seen that myself.
You might say its upto me. But just wanted a feel for market value. And not stretching it too far. I ask as I feel there is room for negotiation.
I have her full face pic, just this one for now.
Well rested I woke up late Sunday evening 26. 8.12. Hookede up and gave my number to some girls in TLL through I'm`s may be rewarding after a while. Had a few beers in room and ready for action.
Went down to this "german" restaurant across the street from Grand President and had some sauerkrat, smashed potatoes and some bratwurst. Good to go and went for Bangkok Beat in Soi 7. 1 (correct me if I am wrong). Stepped inside at around 10pm. Most of the girls inside were allready taken and the few walked inside alone was not to my interest. Had a couple of vodkas and just sat down relaxing. 2 LB came and sat down beside me. I told them in a nice way I was not interested in their services one third came up and start claiming he and the 2 others not were LB`s. I revieled that the 2 I talked to earlier allready had told me they were LB`s so I did not see her point trying to convice me otherwice. She started acting stupid as only LB can and got furious. Instead of taking this further I just finished my drink and left.
Headed for Climax in Soi 11. The place were packed around midnight. Saw many girls inside there I`ve had on previous occations. Funny this setting. If these girls are available or not taken they are friendly and would like you to take them again. If they are taken they try to not make eyecontact at all. Maby they think a blink of the eye will ruin their business, hehe. I walked up to one table in the back not far from the toilet. Easy to spot talent from there as girls traffick in and out of toilets on a regular basis. Then most of my previous girls said a quick hello. Normal curtosy I think. Not that I give a shit but this is the same girls getting or acting jealous if they see you with a new talent, hehe. I saw this Bunny girl which is nice and friendly. Mostly out to have fun and not excactly out for money since I know she do fine on her own. Even so I tend to throw in a little something every now and then. Decided to go with her. We headed back for my room and dived into adultbusiness.
I have not been able to fuck her ass yet and that is somewhat irritating. I don't know why but I like to have access to everything. Well not to exciting. She left for work around midday and here I am writing this report.
I state a few selflearned rules about Climax. Don't pay the staff so much money. They will never leave your table. On the other hand if you pay them they are more than helpful to pinpoint and get some nice girls to your liking. But then they as I told you never leave your side. Sometimes I just tell the manager here you have 1000bht thank you bye bye and then he heads off. But he is a nice guy and very helpful.
And dress nice. You can come and go looking like trash but the ladies, yes most of them are working, but the nice thing about freelancing is that they can choose atleast the good looking ones. Around 2am or so not barfined GoGo`s and Bargirls come (or they try to have a last popp for the day) and some still nice looking girls can be had in Climax (I have no interest in Climax whatsoever except from it has convenient location from hotel Grand President and beeing a short walker I like this). I see many of the girls surrounding Bunny (described earlier) turning down a lot of guys. They are beautiful and tall with this certain Japs look. Atleast they don't go with old beggars or cheap charlies. I have only seen one of them walked away with a guy actually. But there are a lot of talent around I have to say but ofcourse also uglybugly ones.
I have been to Bangkok Beat a few times before. Is the place changing. Earlier it has been no problem to pick there. Maby it was just one of these days were the ladies choosed to be occupied or stay LB? Just enlighten me please. If it has gone bad. Then I don't waist my time over there anymore.
I will head for Beergarden now to see if I can find sth interesting for late afternoon fun.
[QUOTE=Desp Xpat; 1319133]Just returned from my first 'trip' to amazing Thailand-thanks to all the brothers and their invaluable info on the forum. My apologizes to the seniors here as my report is limited in scope and is probably more for a newbie as you guys have seen it all. However I owe a lot to this forum and let me share my novice experience.
Hope you guys had time to go through the novice report (My first Thai FR) that I posted a couple of days ago. The fact that I did not receive any comments, it seems that it was long to read or it is inline with the general experiences of most of the members and hence routine. Thats good new as it tells me that I am taking a few baby steps but in the right direction. Just wanted a small advice from the bigbros' out there.
As I had written in my report, I am an Indian and do not drink. That's two low scores in the mongering world and hence I limited myself to exploring FLs in Nana parking or the clubs so far. So far the experinec had never dsiappointed me, but it seriously limits my scope. From the info I understand that the real deal is in GoGO bars. In a club, I just pay the normal entrance fee, a few overpriced cokes, pick a girl and the rest is history. Would a GoGo entertain a person like me, may be buy a few cokes, like a girl pay for a few lady drinks, barfine and. Or would they give me "get the f* outtta here" look.
Please advice.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1317861]Ann, stunning lady picked out froom the manager in Climax (who I know well). She proved to be a good fuck. .[/QUOTE]I had an Ann once from Spasso. Like you said, had to be the best fuck ever. She was up for anything and everything. And did she love to climax. Does her number end with 586? (if you got her number.)
Great breasts, nice body, should be around 5'4 and 48-49 kgs. Paid her 4000. But guess Climax is cheaper for the same stuff. Enjoy.
McM
Kabeer,
Please tell us where you are and someone will be right over to take your hand and lead you through the jungle that is Thailand!
[QUOTE=Kabeer;1319528]Anyone in Thailand now?[/QUOTE]
i was walking the short cut between soi 11 and soi 7 and right into beergarden. on my way to toilet (had to take a leak) i saw this nice and smiling lady while passing her. i realy had to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] so i did not have the chance to smile back at her. good ratio for men (lots of ladies few punters). finished peeing. went to business. sat next to this nice reddressed lady smiling at me. joy from "chiang mai" atleast so she claimed. i don't give a shit in where they come from when i am hunting for speedsex so i concured and say i have been there. showed i knew more about chiang mai then she did. that says it all i guess. but i give her points for trying pretend not beeing for isaan. she was friendly and nice looking with boobs i am used to from norway (big) and natural she claimed. she did not lie.
we had 2 beers each and headed off for grand president. in elevator to 19`th floor i asked if she did it all. yes she said. we had shower routine and she start smoking my bandit. she was a great suck. i pounded 2 fingers in her ass (ky arranged) and she did enjoy (seemingly. if they act or not i don't know but atleast with my not lubed hand i felt her snatch was all wet and ready. i let her have a few smokes before i suggested business.
she found my last condom (safety first fellows, hehe) and smoked it on. she was both a giver and taker. pounded her pussy for a few minutes, lifted her in air and had rocco session. she did scream. gave her sth to bite into due to neighbours. and stack my little bandit into her ass. she spitted out the horsebit and realy screamed i slowed down and took it easy. she claimed it hurt so i went into slow mode. took some pussy action once again (not picky every possition was ok for her).
i had problem to shoot my load so i suggested she smoke me more. she lubed her finger and stack it into my ass while smoking like lucy thai (no simularity whatsoever). that realy did the trick i lifted my load (not so much due to a lot of draining tha last days) but hopefully viewable in pics not so much on her face though.
nice girl, gave her a fair 2k. 500 to much but when performance like that i can not do anything about it. all happy. just smiles. cheerful and so on and so on. wow.
no it is meeting up with one regular at chef pezes or sth (soi 11) she waitors there. report is to be fullfilled later. photos can be viewed in photo gallery with in accordance to fr day 6. beer garden.
[QUOTE=Jaay Zeez;1319951]Is this one worth it?[/QUOTE]No.
No No
No No NO.
Not in a million years.
Move on, and FAST.
For 15k per day, you can get a MODEL from a G Club.
Forget that girl, and move on
[QUOTE=Desp Xpat; 1320070]
[QUOTE=Desp Xpat; 1319133]Just returned from my first 'trip' to amazing Thailand-thanks to all the brothers and their invaluable info on the forum. My apologizes to the seniors here as my report is limited in scope and is probably more for a newbie as you guys have seen it all. However I owe a lot to this forum and let me share my novice experience.
Hope you guys had time to go through the novice report (My first Thai FR) that I posted a couple of days ago. The fact that I did not receive any comments, it seems that it was long to read or it is inline with the general experiences of most of the members and hence routine. Thats good new as it tells me that I am taking a few baby steps but in the right direction. Just wanted a small advice from the bigbros' out there.
As I had written in my report, I am an Indian and do not drink. That's two low scores in the mongering world and hence I limited myself to exploring FLs in Nana parking or the clubs so far. So far the experinec had never dsiappointed me, but it seriously limits my scope. From the info I understand that the real deal is in GoGO bars. In a club, I just pay the normal entrance fee, a few overpriced cokes, pick a girl and the rest is history. Would a GoGo entertain a person like me, may be buy a few cokes, like a girl pay for a few lady drinks, barfine and. Or would they give me "get the f* outtta here" look.
Please advice.[/QUOTE]Even if I get some feedbacks on my FR (mostly through PM`s) I think to get a lot of responses means you have to have english as your first language or be one of the included ones (having 1000 of postings). That can mean nr 1. They don't have a life except this forum or nr 2. They don't like to view other "younger" members postings or beeing challenged their views. My self I don't care. Even if I don't write perfect english and not been member here so long I state that also I have something to teach other fellow members even if you have 10000 posts or 11. So don't be shy. Just post. Stick to Mr Jacksons forums rules and you are fine. Soon you have some fellow members you can hang out with and or have fun with if that is your purpose (it is not mine). I just use ISG to educate myself a little above the normal tourist stuffs so I know what to expect when I get into the pussyscene of action. I did know a lot from before because I am a well established mongorer around the world and even many would say so in my own country (Norway).
I read your post and found it nice. Sorry to hear you beeing from indian blood exp problems due to this but then you have to take some hard battles with your fellow countrymen bcs I concure they don't behave nice. When I speak to various women and ask if they ever were beeing treated badly I have so far mostly Indian / Iranian and some Sri Lankians answers. Not beeing nice to women. There are a lot of others not treating the women nice but you can not do anything about that. Just stick into your business. Behave well and treat the ladies with a GREAT deal of respect and you will be fine. Even if this in many cases are business agreements I look at it as a way of acting to get it as normal as possible. I have just 2 nasty LB incidents and / or with ladies none bad exp that I can come to think of right now. Well there have been starfishes (not performing well) but as a general rule I don't exp much trouble doing this mongering business. But I can easily add I also do almost 50% of my outside Norway action with freebees and datingsites girls. If I add up costs I would be damned if P4P action is more expensive. Probably opposite. But who counts. But this forum teached me to bare my wits when it came to pay P4P girls. I was way above avarage before entering this site. According to avg salary (in Thailand) this girls get good payment so we keep it down.
I take it wild some times and take girls for 5-10-15K`s but then we are talking models, bangkokraised, airlinecrew, even one ThaiTV personality.
You hang in there we, if we have 10 or 10000posts, have all sth to learn. Someone just think they know it all. They don't.
[QUOTE=D Cups;1320113]Kabeer,Please tell us where you are and someone will be right over to take your hand and lead you through the jungle that is Thailand![/QUOTE]Ahve alraedy deployed the SAR with helicopters, sea and land. Need to know the nationality of the guy to involve his embassy.
But in order to do so, will I have to fuck this Oi / Min girl yet again before getting access to the hotter and younger pussy.[/QUOTE]Full Service
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Hi Brother,
Certainly NOT!
Whenever I am in BKK I routinely visit SOL. I start with any girl and have a great BBBJ, and then I switch into an uncovered Full Service. I always can fuck different girls uncovered, and. As a specialty: If you want you can include a bare back anal access, too. Many of them (I don't know if all of them) agree also to this.
Go there, try your best, omit the "receptionist Oi / Min" and enjoy!
Regards FV
Is there a preferance by the ladies for younger guys. Have seen this to an extent in Cambodia, not so in the Phillipines.
As for dressing well, I absolutely agree. Have had gals tell me they look for this.
[QUOTE=Skogis; 1320055]Well rested I woke up late Sunday evening 26. 8.12. Hookede up and gave my number to some girls in TLL through I'm`s may be rewarding after a while. Had a few beers in room and ready for action.
Headed for Climax in Soi 11.
I will head for Beergarden now to see if I can find sth interesting for late afternoon fun.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jaay Zeez; 1319951]To top it of wants TBH 30, 000 for 2 whole days and some shopping :0.
You can see my few other posts. Just not to get punked I stick to MPs and reliable escorts.
Is this one worth it?
She is old wine, talks smart, I like that and a hard worker, I've seen that myself.
You might say its upto me. But just wanted a feel for market value. And not stretching it too far.[/QUOTE]YOLO! Pay it!
[QUOTE=Desp Xpat; 1320070]
[QUOTE=Desp Xpat; 1319133]As I had written in my report, I am an Indian and do not drink. That's two low scores in the mongering world and hence I limited myself to exploring FLs in Nana parking or the clubs so far. So far the experinec had never dsiappointed me, but it seriously limits my scope. From the info I understand that the real deal is in GoGO bars. In a club, I just pay the normal entrance fee, a few overpriced cokes, pick a girl and the rest is history. Would a GoGo entertain a person like me, may be buy a few cokes, like a girl pay for a few lady drinks, barfine and. Or would they give me "get the f* outtta here" look.
Please advice.[/QUOTE]Nice report. Thanks for sharing. We, the newer members, have a duty to report our experiences as a thank you to the vintage generations of the forum.
As for your question (please note I am white European; not sure if that makes any difference) , I can tell you I had a coke at Rainbow 4 as I had had too much alcohol by then and needed to get back in shape for my nightly plans with no problems at all. Moreover I did not buy any lady drinks but actually preferred to flirt with one of the big fat waitresses and gave her an 100BHt tip for being friendly (which led for some later advice hehe).
I followed the general advice you read around here and was decently dressed with a black shirt and some expensive jeans and very expensive shoes (not that they can really see the difference I think). Girls kept flirting and were very keen to get out of there with us (I was with a fellow member of the forum who was also having a coke).
To the almighty senior senior members, I apologise in advance if we have stained the reputation of ISG by drinking coke!
[QUOTE=Desp Xpat; 1319133]As I had written in my report, I am an Indian and do not drink. That's two low scores in the mongering world and hence I limited myself to exploring FLs in Nana parking or the clubs so far. So far the experinec had never dsiappointed me, but it seriously limits my scope. From the info I understand that the real deal is in GoGO bars. In a club, I just pay the normal entrance fee, a few overpriced cokes, pick a girl and the rest is history. Would a GoGo entertain a person like me, may be buy a few cokes, like a girl pay for a few lady drinks, barfine and. Or would they give me "get the f* outtta here" look.
Please advice.[/QUOTE]Hi,
There's no need what so ever to worry about not drinking. Just order an orange juice or whatever else you'd want. Some girls might find it a little funny, but nothing more. As long as you're cool about it, so will everybody else be. Have a good time.
[QUOTE=Desp Xpat; 1319133]As I had written in my report, I am an Indian and do not drink. That's two low scores in the mongering world and hence I limited myself to exploring FLs in Nana parking or the clubs so far.[/QUOTE]I do not drink alcohol either and in the agogo clubs only ever ask for sodaa (sparkling mineral water) ; Never had any complaints from the girls, the waitresses or the management. When I tell the girls I never drank any alcohol, most are impressed and say "you good man". Although Buddhism does not forbids you to drink alcohol, it does expect you to remain in control of yourself at all times and I guess these girls have already seen too many drunk mongers.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1319732]Either I got my orientation wrong but Soi cowboy is parallel to sukhumvit.[/QUOTE]To Bionicman,
Many yr ago maybe back in 2002 before the new mall and office buliding there is a small alley form Sukumvit to sori 23 near Soi cowboy, there are many open bar that you go by to get to soi cowboy but this area is alway changing.
Fast Eddie 48
There is the often stated myth of women "faking" orgasms. That is actually impossible to do. Period. I have heard men offering proof aplenty of orgasm by observing women's vocal expressions, body twitching, writhing in general, spasms, heavy breathing, engorged vagina and clit etc. Yet there is only one 100% surefire way to tell if an orgasm is indeed occurring. In fact, all human beings have the exact same response during all orgasms. The sphincter contracts and pulsates each and every time.
So. If the guy has his finger even lightly on her anus or the tip of the finger inside (no real need to penetrate very far) the response is unmistakable (and impossible to fake). And the same if she is touching the man's backdoor.
For maximum affect the index finger is inserted not too far. Maybe to the first knuckle (and fingernails must be trimmed to the shortest length possible) it usually prompts the orgasm if done at the right time and in the right manner."Gentle and slow" is the key concept here. Not rough and aggressive as this can be alarming for the woman. Light stroking before any insertion, etc.
I am rather amazed that I have never seen this discussed anywhere. Ever. Hmmm.
One of the most pleasurable acts in sex to me is making the woman come and feeling her pulsating asshole. Perhaps one of my favorite things is when I stimulate her clitoris manually and probe and lick her ass with my tongue and then insert it fully and feel her anus strongly grip my tongue as she is coming. And likewise when she is doing the same to me. Heaven indeed and especially when another woman is sucking my cock at the same time."Double Trouble" I call it.
No man on Earth can withstand that onslaught for more than a few minutes. Two talented tongues drilling toward each other right through your center. Wow.
Obviously ultra-cleanliness is in order for the above. I always use copious amounts of soap and do the cleaning myself on both of us (really really clean). This will last maybe an hour of activity after showering to be guaranteed of no accidents. I aint never had nary a problem with hundreds of women. They might be a bit surprised at first (especially when in the shower cleaning, etc.) but all surrender to the intense pleasure that this activity inevitably delivers.
Not much is more intimate than exploring each others assholes with tongues and lips. If you haven't tried it give it a go and see what happens. You'll thank me. Any thoughts on the above? Others have noticed this for sure.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1320135]No.
No No
No No NO.
Not in a million years.
Move on, and FAST.
For 15k per day, you can get a MODEL from a G Club.
Forget that girl, and move on[/QUOTE]Any place to get some exotics. Please let me know.
Thank you for the empphatic no, sometimes we tend to think with the dick.
Cheers,
J
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1320288]I do not drink alcohol either and in the agogo clubs only ever ask for sodaa (sparkling mineral water) ; Never had any complaints from the girls, the waitresses or the management. When I tell the girls I never drank any alcohol, most are impressed and say "you good man". Although Buddhism does not forbids you to drink alcohol, it does expect you to remain in control of yourself at all times and I guess these girls have already seen too many drunk mongers.[/QUOTE]If that is the case they better start to tear down those temple because Buddhism isn't working in this country?
LBM
[QUOTE=Papae Noel; 1319272]Hope this makes sense. Enter Soi Cowboy from Sukhumvit entrance, walk all the way to end, then turn right, and there are a couple of bars. Just a regular bar, but girls full dressed. Just a small bar, with no type of gogo scene. Had a beer there, and bought a girl of about 30 years a drink. But I'm thinking the girls there are game for something right there in the bar.
Anyone try this one out?
There is also another bar just beyond that has pool tables. Did not get same vibe there, although it seemed a very decent place to hang out.[/QUOTE]Too put off by the beggars that hang around there to check out the bars. I know its pathetic but I just kept walking when I saw them and wouldn't go back there.
Soi Cowboy Shadow bar has some really nice older girls. Really friendly even if you arent buying them drinks. I was close to BF one of them (40 yo) with sexy hard body.
Dear MecumVeni, Werqweq, Wolvenvacht&Skogis,
Thanks a lot guys. That's a lot of encouragement (and means lot of places to cover too.). Anyway, equipped with the decent success in my first trip I have already booked a second one in September. Yup, can't wait to get there. Hopefully I have the balls to get in there and not stick to my comfort zone of the clubs. Will definitely post the report on my "XXX"capades.
Thanks once again guys.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1320288]I do not drink alcohol either and in the agogo clubs only ever ask for sodaa (sparkling mineral water) ; Never had any complaints from the girls, the waitresses or the management. When I tell the girls I never drank any alcohol, most are impressed and say "you good man". Although Buddhism does not forbids you to drink alcohol, it does expect you to remain in control of yourself at all times and I guess these girls have already seen too many drunk mongers.[/QUOTE]HAHA.
This is a joke, right?
Like many followers of any religion, Thai buddists are huge hyprocrites.
You think they respect you because of their religion? Sorry man, You really know nothing about these people.
[QUOTE=Bangkok Banger; 1319894]A couple years ago, OK, so, I return again on another trip a few months later, I run into an different older gal at the bar. I told her that I know Oi, and am looking for bareback sex. Well, thst was apparently a BIG mistake! The older
OK-my question: Do any of of you SOL experts know this Oi or Min? And is this Standard Operating Procedure-if you want bareback sex in there, first you have to inseminate this Oi or Min chick? Any info or input regarding this would be great! I am returning to the City of Angeles in a few days, and would love to fuck some of those fine, younger SOL cuties bareback! But in order to do so, will I have to fuck this Oi / Min girl yet again before getting access to the hotter and younger pussy? What gives?[/QUOTE]You are f-ed up and stuck on SOL.
95% of the girls in BKK will go BB, if that is what you want.
SOL quality is very low dude. Venture out to some other places.
[QUOTE=Jaay Zeez; 1319951]Chat her up in one of restaurants in Sukhmvit.
Been over a week now, now gone as far as this pic (she sent on request)
Already starting to sound greedy, wants to book room in Sheraton which I am ok, wants spa and expensive dinners which again I can provide.
To top it of wants TBH 30, 000 for 2 whole days and some shopping :0.
You can see my few other posts. Just not to get punked I stick to MPs and reliable escorts.
Is this one worth it?
She is old wine, talks smart, I like that and a hard worker, I've seen that myself.
You might say its upto me. But just wanted a feel for market value. And not stretching it too far. I ask as I feel there is room for negotiation.
I have her full face pic, just this one for now.[/QUOTE]Seems like a huge waste dude. You can get better for 4-5K for 2 days from a SW.
Her face looks ugly and body below average. You are getting ripped off.
[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1320414]HAHA.
This is a joke, right?
Like many followers of any religion, Thai buddists are huge hyprocrites.
You think they respect you because of their religion? Sorry man, You really know nothing about these people.[/QUOTE]I was not joking at all.
I am not going to start a religious flamewar here. Although being an atheist myself, I have great respect for the buddhist philosophy."Hypocrites"? Maybe so, but far less than I notice with any follower of the monotheistic religions. And it can do no harm to align yourself somewhat with the local belief system and social mores.
Of course I am not out to get respect from bargirls. That is not how I get my kicks. I am happy already when I get good service from them.
[QUOTE=Kabeer;1319528]Anyone in Thailand now?[/QUOTE]It's very slow. So a good time to do renovations. I saw two bars closed for business & getting major internal work done on soi 4 near soi 3. Also across sukhumvit on soi 3 the first 7-11 was getting the same treatment. Even at the BTS entrance to Siam Paragon there was a sign saying "closed for renovations", or some such thing.
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48;1320322]To Bionicman,Many yr ago maybe back in 2002 before the new mall and office buliding there is a small alley form Sukumvit to sori 23 near Soi cowboy, there are many open bar that you go by to get to soi cowboy but this area is alway changing.Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]I appreciate that but the report was done in 2012 and it is an information we might find useful now, and not for the Soi Cowboy Museum of Facts. Giving that sort of wrong information will have newbie wasting time in searching for the Sukh entrance to Soi Cowboy, especially if they follow the wise recommendation of RTFF. Maybe 50 yrs ago Soi Cowboy was non existant, maybe 100 years ago NEP was a fish market. (still it is a market now, LOL). So better clear the grey areas.
[QUOTE=Melted11; 1320338]For maximum affect the index finger is inserted not too far. Maybe to the first knuckle (and fingernails must be trimmed to the shortest length possible) it usually prompts the orgasm if done at the right time and in the right manner."Gentle and slow" is the key concept here. Not rough and aggressive as this can be alarming for the woman. Light stroking before any insertion, etc.
Not much is more intimate than exploring each others assholes with tongues and lips. If you haven't tried it give it a go and see what happens. You'll thank me. Any thoughts on the above? Others have noticed this for sure.[/QUOTE]Subscribe 100. New partners especially are often reluctant to allow for such intimacy so it is important to make sure they are pretty turned on before you get anything inside; gentle pressure around the anus is a good way to prepare them.
I always (maybe I am lying a bit as with working girls I usually don't) take a step-by-step approach with finger being the last move. I have witnessed some rewarding and wonderful results.
Small suggestion: there is a topic here called Anal Connoisseurs; this conversation is probably more appropriate there.
[QUOTE=Desp Xpat; 1319133]Back to the hotel, GFE quotient was better than previous day, more positions, but a no again to one more pop in the morning. Damage was 3k again and of course some taxi money.[/QUOTE]Paying for LT, but getting only one pop, this seems a bad deal to me. Why then bother to have the girl staying all night with you? I think we should not let girls get away with that. I would have given her 2000 BHT and kicked her out of the room. Just my opinion.
Was in Bangkok a few weeks back.
Started Tuesday night in Spasso after a few rounds in the room. Surveyed the scene and I have to say that the quality has certainly deteriorated over the last couple of years. Finally got talking to one of those wine drinkers at the bar. Seemed to be friendly except for her penchant to go to the rest-room every 30 mins. Decided that I wanted to go with her but it was closing time. Suggested Insomnia and off we go.
Pay the requisite cover-charge (THB250?) including one drink. Some dancing and off to the restaurant outside for some food. That's where she started acting funny. 'don't you like me? ' 'If you want, you can go with someone else etc'. I had no such thoughts in my mind but her attitude was pissing me off. Paid for the food, told the byes and into Insomnia. Huge club with not an excellent ratio IMHO (60% guys). Met a girl and off to the room. Don't remember too much since I was quite drunk. Maybe late twenties. 50 kgs. One session in the night and another in the morning. THB 2, 500. Average sex. Nothing great to remember it by, nothing to regret too.
Wanted to try Q Bar on Wendesday. Reached by 11pm and the place was dead as a dodo. Went upstairs to relax and have a drink. Really quiet upstairs. Thought of leaving the bar and went down around 11:45 but the place downstairs was rocking at that hour. Girls of the Spasso class but definitely younger. Got talking to a group. Bought some drinks, had the usual fun. They even offered to pay for my drink but I never let them do that.
A really sexy girl joined us. Name is 'Somi' or something like that. Hard body, flat stomach, Korean actress type face but only 'A' cups and even that might be stretching it a bit too far LOL. Partied for some more time. Around 1:30, girls started disapprearing and Somi too went out with some bald guy (good for you).
Off to Insomnia once again at the late hour. The ratio was even worse this time. 70% guys? And most of the cute ones were already taken. Saw a cute spinner with a fabulous body after a couple of rounds. Asked her out for 2000 which she refused after consulting with her friend. Made a few rounds and back to the first one and we finally settled on 4000. A bit too much, but I had not other choice at around 2:30 in the morning.
Of to the hotel, followed by one round in the night and another in the morning. Usual stuff and nothing to write home about once again. In the morning, saw that her face was quite cute. The disappointment was that she had a baby. Surprised since I had felt up her stomach in the club and it felt fine.
2 good (not great) nights in Bangkok. Lesson learnt. Next time, will pick up one of the cuties from Q Bar before 12.
Cheers,
McM
Not an expert at this photo thing. But here goes.
McM
Works for me. Thanks for sharing.
[QUOTE=McMaiden; 1320550]Not an expert at this photo thing. But here goes.
McM[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jaay Zeez; 1319951]Chat her up in one of restaurants in Sukhmvit.
Been over a week now, now gone as far as this pic (she sent on request)
Already starting to sound greedy, wants to book room in Sheraton which I am ok, wants spa and expensive dinners which again I can provide.
To top it of wants TBH 30, 000 for 2 whole days and some shopping :0.
You can see my few other posts. Just not to get punked I stick to MPs and reliable escorts.
Is this one worth it?
She is old wine, talks smart, I like that and a hard worker, I've seen that myself.
You might say its upto me. But just wanted a feel for market value. And not stretching it too far. I ask as I feel there is room for negotiation.
I have her full face pic, just this one for now.[/QUOTE]Are you serious?
[QUOTE=Wiild;1263810]OK, cool, thanks Syzygies It's been 3 years since my last BKK trip and at that time there was not much silicone around, visited most Nana Plaza bars and all the silicone I saw was bolted onto ladyboys' chests. I like big firm tits on small framed girls. Good to hear there is progress. I shall browse up some MP sites as you suggested although I prefer the evening bar scene better. If anyone spot a girl with big silicone tits anywhere, let me know thanks.[/QUOTE]Short Update on my Silicone Hunt: I did not find that much Silicone in Thailand, my estimate is that less than 1% (almost none) of Pattaya high end walking street gogo girls have bolt-ons compared to the high end (Nana & Cowboy) Bangkok outlets where it is maybe 5. The ones that have silicone the sizes are rather small / moderate, But this is just from visual inspection with their bikinis on, on the days when I visited so I can be wrong. I chatted to a few girls with silicone but none that I really liked so I never got to squezze and silicone for real.
A reflection: For the best European Call girl agencies almost 50% of the Asian girls have nice large firm silicone tits. Europe / US upmarket sexworker trend is more and more silicone but I guess it could be different for Asian: Japan, Korea etc where most high end customs and geared towards?
[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1320557]Are you serious?[/QUOTE]Turned out to be a typical haggling type. All little class while having a conversation went off the roof.
Came down to 15k for 2 full days. Making a pass.
Thanks guys.
I am still looking for that one G club to hunt good chicks.
Any suggestions.
Cheers.
J
[QUOTE=Desp Xpat; 1320070]
[QUOTE=Desp Xpat; 1319133]Would a GoGo entertain a person like me, may be buy a few cokes, like a girl pay for a few lady drinks, barfine and. Or would they give me "get the f* outtta here" look. Please advice.[/QUOTE]You are a paying customer so order whatever you like, in most pussybars around the world the establishments make as much money on a water / soda / juice as on a beer so feel free to order what you like. In Thailand I found that some nicer bars can even do really nice non alcoholic cocktails based on fresh fruitjuices. When I don't want to get (more) drunk I usually order a ginger ale or a tonic water with ice, still feel pretty upscale without the alcohol.
I am only wondering if Thai Buddist are like american southern baptists when it comes to drinking. They only drink at 2 different times. When they are alone or with someone.
Actually the Thai's I know in both USA and Thailand all drink. Still, no one likes a slobbering, falling down drunk no matter where they are from. Only my opinion
[QUOTE=Mackin; 1320629]I am only wondering if Thai Buddist are like american southern baptists when it comes to drinking. They only drink at 2 different times. When they are alone or with someone.
Actually the Thai's I know in both USA and Thailand all drink. Still, no one likes a slobbering, falling down drunk no matter where they are from. Only my opinion[/QUOTE]As I said before, Buddhism does not ban drinking of alcohol. So there is no hypocrisy if a Thai buddhist drinks alcohol (unless he is a monk, the rules are more strict for them). As long as they remain in control of themselves there is no problem. And if you get out of control? No real problem either. You have failed and can do better next time. After all you have still many lives in front of you before you ascend to Nirvana.
[QUOTE=Melted11; 1320338]There is the often stated myth of women "faking" orgasms. That is actually impossible to do. .
I am rather amazed that I have never seen this discussed anywhere. Ever. Hmmm.[/QUOTE]This is a mongering site. We fuck for our pleasures not theirs.
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1320711]This is a mongering site. We fuck for our pleasures not theirs.[/QUOTE]They are not fucking dolls. If you can get a paid hooker a real (not simulated) orgasm it's a proof of your sexual ability.
IMHO
Brother, I aint doing it totally for her benefit, but yet that is, of course, part of it. Most men I think get a fuller more satisfying sexual experience when they know the women is also equally pleased. Unless, you are a mysoginist and hate women in general why not make her happy thereby making yourself happier as well. You appear to not like or care about the women you're having sex with, but maybe I'm wrong.
[QUOTE=Wiild; 1320609]Short Update on my Silicone Hunt: I did not find that much Silicone in Thailand, my estimate is that less than 1% (almost none) of Pattaya high end walking street gogo girls have bolt-ons compared to the high end (Nana & Cowboy) Bangkok outlets where it is maybe 5. The ones that have silicone the sizes are rather small / moderate, But this is just from visual inspection with their bikinis on, on the days when I visited so I can be wrong. I chatted to a few girls with silicone but none that I really liked so I never got to squezze and silicone for real.
A reflection: For the best European Call girl agencies almost 50% of the Asian girls have nice large firm silicone tits. Europe / US upmarket sexworker trend is more and more silicone but I guess it could be different for Asian: Japan, Korea etc where most high end customs and geared towards?[/QUOTE]An oxymoron - "high end walking street gogo girls have bolt-ons compared to the high end (Nana & Cowboy) Bangkok outlets"
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1320711]This is a mongering site. We fuck for our pleasures not theirs.[/QUOTE]Well said. That is what we pay them for, pleasure, not pain, LOL.
They are not fucking dolls. If you can get a paid hooker a real (not simulated) orgasm it's a proof of your sexual ability. From Nestor X.
I could not agree more, my friend. Others seem to care less about the woman's pleasure. Selfish angry self-centered louts I say. Fuck 'them and then what? Kick them in the teeth for good measure?
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[QUOTE=Duniawala;1320711]This is a mongering site. We fuck for our pleasures not theirs.[/QUOTE]Bluntly all this sort of post is raise the anger level of punters who object to the cavalier treatment of Thai WGs.
It shows no respect to the women we enjoy but it unfortunately represents the attitude of, fortunately, very few.
Obviously we fuck 'them for our pleasure and and best we try not to make it unenjoyable for the lady. At best we
Try to make it as enjoyable experience as possible for the lady by, at least, treating them as a lady.
[QUOTE=Melted11;1320757]Brother, I aint doing it totally for her benefit, but yet that is, of course, part of it. Most men I think get a fuller more satisfying sexual experience when they know the women is also equally pleased. Unless, you are a mysoginist and hate women in general why not make her happy thereby making yourself happier as well. You appear to not like or care about the women you're having sex with, but maybe I'm wrong.[/QUOTE]I posted earlier in the same matter. But you said it so much better than me.
Thank you!
After many solo trips to Thailand my girlfriend talked me into bringing sand to the beach. Good thing is she might like to party more than me.
Anyone know of any bars are Nana where I would have a better chance of finding girls that would entertain both of us? In the past my 3 way sessions in BKK had little interaction between the two girls.
[QUOTE=Jaay Zeez;1320617]I am still looking for that one G club to hunt good chicks.[/QUOTE]This was posted before:
[i]St. Moritx (formerly The Ritz)
Suk Soi 11. This is probably the most expensive club around. I am there pretty often but fortunately it is usually with Thai friends who pick up the bill. They are the hosts and generally use it for business. The ladies are beautiful and there is a large assortment. I would classify it as a higher end Caribbean.
Tabasco – Mheng Jai.
This is my personal favorite. I have a really great sales lady there that always treats me well. Most of my Thai friends don't go there because the area has a lot of alcohol check points but my foreign customers love it.
The Bank – Suk Soi 40
Probably the craziest place in BKK. We have huge parties there in the VIP room where it is common for us to have 14 or more girls running around in various states of undress. My friends and I have taken girls out of there fairly easily. As a note, I have never spent any time downstairs in the lounge area – we are always in the VIP rooms.
Piano and Sherbet – Ekkamai before Soi 1
I grouped these together because they are the same style and are owned by the same people. They are more of a lounge with sofa seating, live music and plenty of girls. I have not been to either in a while but they are generally well thought of.
The Resort – Ratchada Soi 13
The girls are pretty but over the last year or so its reputation has gone down hill. They are marking up the bills and even a few of my Thai friends won't go there anymore.
Caribbean – Mheng Jai –
This used to be my place but I have not been there in about 8 months now. There was never an issue, we just got tired of the same.
Stuff. The Caribbean is now closed for renovations but the same owner has opened a new G-club on the very next Soi called ICafe. It is similar in style and.
Much of the staff is from Caribbean.
The Pent
I hardly go there and probably could not give an honest evaluation.
As for bringing girls home from these places it is hit or miss. It is almost like picking up a girl at a Thai bar in Ekkamai. I have never been charged for a girl from any of these places and have left with the girl in her car a few times to go to an after hours bar, a private party or back to my condo. If you want to buy a girl out for the night you buy 10 – 15 drinks but that gets you a date not sex. Basically, I have found that in places like these the girl has to like you and want to go with you – she is not forced. [/i]
After two years of begging my girlfriend talked me into bringing sand to the beach and we are off to Thailand in November. All my 3 ways in BKK have had little interaction between the two girls, but I am looking to.
Pickup some girls that will truly entertain both sides of the party.
[QUOTE=Melted11;1320757]Brother, I aint doing it totally for her benefit, but yet that is, of course, part of it. Most men I think get a fuller more satisfying sexual experience when they know the women is also equally pleased. Unless, you are a mysoginist and hate women in general why not make her happy thereby making yourself happier as well. You appear to not like or care about the women you're having sex with, but maybe I'm wrong.[/QUOTE]Go find a GF.
Yes, treat them with respect and be nice, but you are paying them for a service. That is service is to make you happy and give you pleasure.
By the way, if you know how to fuck correctly you won't have to worry about it. Maybe that is your issue?
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1321020]This was posted before:
As for bringing girls home from these places it is hit or miss. It is almost like picking up a girl at a Thai bar in Ekkamai. I have never been charged for a girl from any of these places and have left with the girl in her car a few times to go to an after hours bar, a private party or back to my condo. If you want to buy a girl out for the night you buy 10 – 15 drinks but that gets you a date not sex. Basically, I have found that in places like these the girl has to like you and want to go with you – she is not forced. [/i][/QUOTE]And the expected price for ST / LT above or under 5. 000 baht?
Thanks
[QUOTE=Scorchin1470; 1320964]Bluntly all this sort of post is raise the anger level of punters who object to the cavalier treatment of Thai WGs.
It shows no respect to the women we enjoy but it unfortunately represents the attitude of, fortunately, very few.
Obviously we fuck 'them for our pleasure and and best we try not to make it unenjoyable for the lady. At best we
Try to make it as enjoyable experience as possible for the lady by, at least, treating them as a lady.[/QUOTE]You guys take everything to the extreme.
1. I never said not to treat them with respect. I always have and will always treat them with respect.
2. Fake orgasms just turn me off. If you men think that you are god's gift to woman, what are you doing here in LOS. You would be fucking for free.
3. Giving pleasure to a woman makes sense when there is a relationship. A ST or LT is not a relationship.
4. I kick a starfish out of the bed. A HJ is better than starfish in bed.
And speaking of respect, tell me one thing. When you go to a BJ place what respect are you giving her. All day long the woman is just sucking dick. And you are just sticking it in her mouth and saying to yourself "Yeah Baby".
A WG is doing the same fucking routine day in and day out, with hundreds of men. Do you think they get any pleasure out of it? So they give you the fakes and makes you guys holler.
So yes, I go their to have my pleasure. I paid for the girl to bring me to an orgasm. If she gets her jollies during that time, hats off to her.
Hi guys,
Do you know if there's something interesting to visit outside Bangkok without traveling too far in the country?
I would plan to go to Pattaya for mongering but are there other places which are in the region of Bangkok / Pattaya and not necessarily "mongering special places"?
Have a good day,
Thanks.
Bluntly, your mongering compass is a little off.
Initially, I treat anyone I am doing buisness with in a respectful fashion. That goes without saying. When I go and get a massage (straight) I don't try to make it an enjoyable experience for the masseuse. I am paying for a service, therefore, my attention and needs come first. We are not missionaries.
[QUOTE=Scorchin1470; 1320964]Bluntly all this sort of post is raise the anger level of punters who object to the cavalier treatment of Thai WGs.
It shows no respect to the women we enjoy but it unfortunately represents the attitude of, fortunately, very few.
Obviously we fuck 'them for our pleasure and and best we try not to make it unenjoyable for the lady. At best we
Try to make it as enjoyable experience as possible for the lady by, at least, treating them as a lady.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=IAlvsg; 1321139]Hi guys,
Do you know if there's something interesting to visit outside Bangkok without traveling too far in the country?
I would plan to go to Pattaya for mongering but are there other places which are in the region of Bangkok / Pattaya and not necessarily "mongering special places"?
Have a good day,
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Ayutthaya ([url]http://wikitravel.org/en/Ayutthaya[/url]) is certainly worth a visit. Take an early train to Ayuttaya from Hualamphong station and come back with a late afternoon train (around 4PM if I remember well). Cross the street in front of the station in Ayuttaya; take the ferry across the river and rent a bicycle at the little square. Lots of temples and ruins to visit and a few nice museums. I very much liked the Ayutthaya Historical Study Center Museum (and not only because it was perfectly air-conditioned). While waiting for your return train to arrive, treat yourself to some Thai pancakes with banana (they are made and sold at the food-stalls in front of the station).
[QUOTE=IAlvsg; 1321139]Hi guys,
Do you know if there's something interesting to visit outside Bangkok without traveling too far in the country?[/QUOTE]Day trip to Bridge Over River Kwai. Leave around 7 am, return early evening, all the hotels have this group tour. Around B$2000+. Bring a camera, well worth the visit to Museum, Cemetery, train ride, etc.
[QUOTE=HenryV; 1321141]Bluntly, your mongering compass is a little off.
Initially, I treat anyone I am doing buisness with in a respectful fashion. That goes without saying. When I go and get a massage (straight) I don't try to make it an enjoyable experience for the masseuse. I am paying for a service, therefore, my attention and needs come first. We are not missionaries.[/QUOTE]My primary goal is not to make the WG happy. It is my money that makes them happy. But if I can make a WG or any other girl hot and horny and passionate, this arouses me. I get much hornier and feel a much bigger sexual pleasure than if the girl lacks passion.
[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1264400]Nice write up Natty, it sounds like a good time for sure. I've never been to these G-clubs yet, but will be going for sure next time I'm in BKK. Which. Will be in a few weeks. I enjoy the hunt for hot chicks and will not settle for low quality. (that's why I don't drink too much when I'm out and about LOL)
The G-club thing ain't for the cheap charlies that's for sure. Seems whenever the these venues get brought up, the cheap charlies come out of the wood work and say it's paying a lot of money for nothing, but it goes beyond just picking out a dark skinned issarn girl for 1k baht.[/QUOTE]Well tony if looking for a hot woman at a reasonable price is a cheap charley then consider me guilty. Some of us just don't think that throwing those amounts of money at a woman who is probably full of herself anyway is all that good of an idea. And besides I have found many hot women at a reasonable prices and had a great time with them. Besides cheap charlies are men who would make a provider pay for her own breakfast in the morning etc. Not just a man who is the opposite of a fool and his money.
Just my 20 baht. Leknomforme
[QUOTE=Pimpa;1321214]My primary goal is not to make the WG happy. It is my money that makes them happy. But if I can make a WG or any other girl hot and horny and passionate, this arouses me. I get much hornier and feel a much bigger sexual pleasure than if the girl lacks passion.[/QUOTE]There is a difference between showing respect to a WG and getting off on her having an orgasm.
I can understand the guy who wants to be taken care of in the way he likes without being too interested in whether the girl is enjoying herself or not. He pays for her time treats her with respect. Most times if truth be told you are just another John she would not recognize if you passed her in the street a week later. Remember what Jane Fonda said in Klute 'I never come with a john'.
For some guys giving the girl a good time turns them on and of course the experience is more enjoyable if the girl is genuinely aroused, question is, is she? . Lets he honest most guys love to feel they are great in the sack, some more so than others. The more experienced providers and even some newer entrants who have been well trained by their older sisters are well aware of this and are more than capable of giving you that impression while what they are really thinking is whether they are going to have pad thai or som tam for supper.
That said if the guy purposely sets out to give the girl a good time knows what he is doing and the girl is in the mood she can have her orgasm or if you're super stud so many times she loses count. He is happy she is happy what can be wrong with that.
[QUOTE=Sxxxx;1320892]Well said. That is what we pay them for, pleasure, not pain, LOL.[/QUOTE]There are all types out there.
Some like to be whiped or be the whipper.
Some would be content just pleasuring the hooker, e. G. Eating her pussy, the whole time.
BTW, I'd say 50 to 90 percent of guys are into DATY.
Personally I'm not & don't have a problem with her working hard to pleasure me for the money her employer is handing over.
If they're into BJ's, DATO, & such as the guys who enjoy slobering on them, they'll be happy. If not, I'm not going to lose sleep over their choice of a profession.
Hi guys.
Been a good last evening. First time at Soi Cowboy, based on some internet reviews tried Dollhouse.
Not many girls like the reviews say, may be weekday thing.
Saw this girl with a stunning hip to waist ration and beautiful flat abs.
Didn't waste time to decide on her. Called her up for a drink. Face not great, braces but the cleavages sealed the deal. Name : Nook.
To compensate for that (average looks) spotted this beautiful girl with an amazing natural rack and a very sweet smile. Name : Darn, forgot already!
Called her up and checked if both were compatible enough. Seemed good.
Bar fined both and our we went. It was just about 10:00 pm.
Went to Country Land. Had a drink let the ladies unwind a bit and do things they don't get to.
Country Land to Old Dutch restaurant. Nook spoke basic english, Darn, forgot already didn't speak much.
Asked them to eat whatever they want and all they ended up having was shrimp salad and tom yum soup. Weight watchers I guess.
Asked if they wanted to go somewhere and have a good time and Nook suggested Climax.
Funny the taxi ride from Soi to Climax was free! Apparently the club pays them. Good one.
Slowly the girls started to get to their elements. Nook had breezers, Darn had San miguel (!) and I had some scotch on the rock.
After a few drinks both started dancing. Took turns to grind their ass.
The live band was so good we stayed listening to them until 1:00 am. Then they started some DJ music and somehow stayed back till 1:50 am.
Had a really good time there. To me it was college days relived and was very happy with how the girls gelled amongst themselves and me.
All the while I had given Nook some money to do all payments, tip waiters etc just to give them that one night's feeling of being the boss.
Overall worked up a very good vibe to get back to the hotel room.
Nook was very clear about pictures taken. Didn't want with her face shown.
Darn was ok with everything.
Took shower. Sucked, licked, fucked Darn first while I fingered the already licked Nook's pussy. She was soaking wet. Must have fucked her first. May be.
After the first pop both wanted to eat something (at 3:00 am.) Again it was some noodle soup and both enjoyed the late night food. While waiting for the food Nook did a nice dry hump with her sexy shorts on (explicit pix will be uploaded tomm.
Took Nook in while the other stayed in living room. Was very responsive. DFK and genuinely enjoyed the fuck. A lot of discussion going around on pleasuring the ladies of late.
To me the biggest turn on is turning on the lady. A wet pussy drives me crazy. So the Nook session was top notch.
Darn is very young (20 yrs) and the pictures don't do justice actually. She isn't photogenic I guess.
After 2 pops (almost 4:00 am) cuddled and slept with the girls on either side. This has been long due. Waking up inbetween. Feeling the girl's skin and working up the little bro.
Between 4:00 and about 8:00 am fucked both the girls once in various positions.
Both were absolute GFE and as usual the average looking running away with the pleasure quotient trophy. Nook was a little older (may be 26) and more experienced. Darn's inexperience showed but a pleaser nonetheless.
Total damage:
Bar fine 600 * 2.
LT cost 4000 * 2.
Food, drinks etc 3000.
Tip.
To me the stop overs at Country road and Old dutch got them to drop their guards and genuinely put across the intent that I wanted them to have a good time too.
Climax sealed the deal. Came out like puppies in my arms.
The GFE in the room was direct response to those 'setting the pace activities'
A few pix for now. The serious ones are in cam and don't have the cable as of now.
No A levels, just the time spent in Climax was ROI for me, everything after that was pure bliss.
Bye for now.
Cheers.
J
[QUOTE=IAlvsg; 1321139]Hi guys,
Do you know if there's something interesting to visit outside Bangkok without traveling too far in the country?
I would plan to go to Pattaya for mongering but are there other places which are in the region of Bangkok / Pattaya and not necessarily "mongering special places"?
Have a good day,
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I will put my money for Kanchanburi. If some one likes to visit other than historical things can visit Tiger Temple (U can spend a day with alive tigers), Nursing places for Elephants and Monkeys at Kanchanburi province. Tour packages are offering in almost every decent hotels in sukh area. Or ask the front desk you are staying.
I have to say I always get a good laugh at the amazing disparity in peoples judgmental approach to what other people will or will not spend on a night out. If someone wants to drop 20-25k baht at a g-club or, transversely, go to Soi Cowboy and spend 4-5k including a meal, drinks, sex and a tip then that is their prerogative. I personally think soapies or oilies represent the best return for your money. I have never been to a g-club but won't criticize anyone who does. A lot of different people from different backgrounds and varying levels of income frequent Thailand therefore interpretations will vary as to what is or isn't considered value for money. In Baccara for example westerners are quoted 2k ST whilst the Japanese get quoted 3 or 4k (partially because tipping is not considered the done thing in their culture) but mainly because the girls know there is virtually no chance of the Japanese customers trying to haggle. First timers who come here do tend to get fleeced, for a while and usually quickly wise up. My final point is that unless you were born in Thailand "we were all noobs at some time".
[QUOTE=Jaay Zeez; 1321323]Hi guys.
Total damage:
Bar fine 600 * 2.
LT cost 4000 * 2.
Food, drinks etc 3000.
Tip.
To me the stop overs at Country road and Old dutch got them to drop their guards and genuinely put across the intent that I wanted them to have a good time too.
Climax sealed the deal. Came out like puppies in my arms.
The GFE in the room was direct response to those 'setting the pace activities'
J[/QUOTE]Sounds like you had a great time. I'm sure it won't take long before some clown will attempt to ridicule you for overpaying, saying he could have gotten the same for 1500 and half a bottle of song-som at some parking lot, but the rest of us know that's nonsense. You gave the girls a great time and gave them time to warm up to you and themselves, and in return you had a great time too. None of that "she didn't want to let me sex her in the morning ... and only one time during the night ... [cry]" lameness we sometimes hear about in other field reports.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Desp Xpat; 1319133]Just returned from my first 'trip' to amazing Thailand-thanks to all the brothers and their invaluable info on the forum. My apologizes to the seniors here as my report is limited in scope and is probably more for a newbie as you guys have seen it all. However I owe a lot to this forum and let me share my novice experience.
Hope you guys had time to go through the novice report (My first Thai FR) that I posted a couple of days ago. The fact that I did not receive any comments, it seems that it was long to read or it is inline with the general experiences of most of the members and hence routine. Thats good new as it tells me that I am taking a few baby steps but in the right direction. Just wanted a small advice from the bigbros' out there.
Please advice.[/QUOTE]Your report was very detailed and enjoyable. I read it only today. Thanks.
I am also an Indian, living in India.
In the last 6 years I have visited LOS more than 6 times, spending most of my time in BKK. There was a period of 2 years in between when I had to refrain from Alcohol on medical advice. During that period I did find some of the staff in certain GoGos pushing me to buy drinks. But I clearly told them I do not drink and ordered Juice / Soda instead. An occasional lady drink too. In most places I did not have any issue with picking a girls, of course I had my share of NOs from many. But as you rightly put it, I didn't allow that to spoil my evening and moved on. I am planning my next trip in December.
I think you will not have problems in most GoGos.
Have a great time.
Magic M
Hullo Hullo Hullo guys,
Came back home from an (exhausting) trip from Bkok+ Chiang Mai. Had a whale of a time and rediscovered parts of myself*. Without sounding philosophical, here goes the FR:
1. Day-1 : Was with some senior colleagues, who believe that spending great money gets great pussy and thought heck, this shall upset the apple cart of my calculations but so be it, so off we went to some good clubs.
Headed to some of the good clubs of BKK, Spasso, then settled at CM2. CM2 had a bevy of beauties from CIS and Thai areas, all quite stunners, much better than stuff I have sampled in Sukhumvit area. The fucking disturbing trend was that all these supposed high end clubs with decent cover charges were filled with fat men from our brethren, India and they were all leching at all the stunners bigtime, disturbing the whole classy' atmosphere. I talked to a few of them, comes out they were traders from small shopping places of Delhi out for two nights for business, and had no intent of picking girls from the club, their kick was to see sexy babes gyrating to some tunes and that's that.
Anyhow, we chanced upon a group of four girls drinking together, went up to them, some loose talk, surprisingly beautiful babies, and more surprising was that two of them were thai and two from the CIS. Since they had nothing in common, even spoken language, I was bemused but anyhow, picked up the CIS babe as I was slow and my other monger friends lay their hands (literally) in the Thai babes immediately. My base was great looking as well.
Her name was Feroza. Off we went grinding on the dance floor and it was a crazy experience. She was grinding against Johnny and Johnny was going to tear through out of the pants so I cut the dance short and went to the Hotel. There she asked for a smoke and some beer to be ready and I obliged.
Then started a crazy crazy time. She undressed herself. Perfect booty, perfect melons, no trace of extra flesh anywhere. White as milk. She started with BBBJ and rimming and I went crazy with pleasure. Held her close, DFKd for some fifteen odd minutes while fingering her and hear her moan. I always thought and still do. That the moans are rehearsed though, but they still do their magic in giving you a better hard on. Entered her in mish and bonked her for some ten minutes before ejaculating in spurts. Had been so sexually tense ever since I had held her hand in the club, I knew first pop would come soon and quick and will be huge.
Then rested for a while while she massaged me, this surprised me as I thought she has no business doing anything while I am down and out and recuperating, but she was going the extra mile. Good. After an hour or so got huge erection again, and took her doggy style and reverse cowgirl style. Loved her jiggling ass and the visible vibrations as the cock thrusted in, such a pleasure to watch, isn't it?
Had another pop and told her lets go to sleep, it was 3 am already. Slept like a baby, cuddling up to her and woke up by a huge erection again at six am. Started fingering her slowly and kissing her on the nape of the neck and she woke up slowly, smiled and went down to give another round of BBBJ. Settled later in spooning position as didn't want her to be totally awake in a pose like cowgirl / reverse cowgirl. Spooning to me is a new discovery and I will urge fellow mongers to try this position, you feel Great, great. Another pop and I told to myself this is done now. She wanted to sleep till late and I said okay, so slept again and woke up at ten am, blissfully exhausted. She urged me to take bath with her and I said why not. In the tub, slipped over me over and over with her wet, soap laden skin and I just kept on sucking on the melons. Then entered her in the bathing tub that was the last and final pop.
Took her number, just in case wanted to repeat her the next night.
Damages: 3K Baht+ 500 baht tip.
Figure- 10/10.
Service- 10/10.
VFM- Absolutely.
WIR: No, for logistic reasons.
Next FR tomorrow. I have her number. Interested people PM me.
Pics attached:
* Rediscovered that four pops a night was not impossible.
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1321702]Can we stop this ping-pong of personal attacks on opinions?
One can have an opinion and another one can have a different one. One can disagree on somebody's opinion, but getting to the level of questioning personal capabilities or judgements is Off Topic.
If you want to continue to disagree with each other would be much recommended to do it through PM.
Otherwise we can't suggsting to the newbie to RTFF or they will learn these bad attitudes and nothing to do with mongering.[/QUOTE]It may annoying but it will be difficult to stop.
But, what do you expect for a sex site where some guys are trying to show their machismo.
We are dudes and that is what we have a tendency to do.
Ever been in the military?
Been on a Football or athletic team?
All this bantering, blah, blah, blah, is what dudes do.
I think this should go under 'Bangkok Massage Parlors' but I can't figure out what happened to that thread.
Recently I went to Fruity Spa (I think in Lad Prow) , one of the higher end no-sex but everything else places. It was very Thai or Asian oriented, and I don't think they were used to westerners so much, but they were quite friendly. It was a Sunday night so there were only four girls available, but all were really pretty. They were very much Asian-guy's style, not Western-spec: white skin, very 'proper' looking more than trashy, while still looking sexy. In a way they kind of looked like college girls! I chose the tallest and youngest looking. They told me she was 19. After paying 2000 at the desk I was led into a small but ok room with shower and bed.
I can't remember her name but it was a fantastic experience for a guy like me. Who has a bit of a warped preference. After she showered me, I was so amazed when she agreed to let me go down on her, she said that normally they not only don't do sex, but they don't allow cunnilingus either. She was so fresh and clean, and quite responsive. The way it went was, first she started to give me a handjob with this 'Nuru gel' stuff. Very slippery. And then after I begged her for a while to let me go down on her she agreed, but she said she never tried it before and she said I mustn't put my hands or fingers near her pussy because she was a virgin!
So she lay down on the bed and I knelt next to it between her legs, and she put one leg over my shoulder, and dangled one leg down so I put her foot on my dick. She was a natural, she knew what I wanted and rubbed me a lot with the Nuru gel with her foot, while I went down on her for a long while, and she came! She even kind of grabbed my head and also used her leg over my shoulder to pull me in. It was wonderful. So erotic and I was so hard from being in that kind of submissive posture to a beautiful young girl.
Than afterward she had me lay down on my back and gave an amazing hand job. Very intense on the head and with lots of ball-busting (hard squeezing) at my request. She seemed to like it! Finally when I came she did perfectly as I requested and kept rubbing the head very fast and hard till I was out of my mind and couldn't take it anymore. Wow! Big smile on both our faces.
Finally after a shower I left and gave her a 300 baht tip. I hope to go back again and often, if I could either find the same girl or get others there to allow cunilingus. Too bad I forgot the girl's name!
[QUOTE=Scorchin1470; 1321872]A fascinating post. With long experience of other fora I have noticed that the 'grandfathers' increasingly post little of relevance (notwithstanding the fact that initially they made Major contributions). They come to think of the fora as their personal fiefdom and regard the contributions of new comers as a source of irritation unless they fall within their preconceived Criteria of acceptability. Over time this stifles the threads and inhibits new and 'different' inputs.
I will be visiting Thailand and Cambodia in the next month or two. I have already planned my mongering away from the faring land of Sukhumvit and the streets of Phnom Penh. I am still Considering whether or not to post details of my experience. On the one hand I owe something back to others here from whom I have gleaned some information (much generally confined to Well-known areas for mongering) ; on the other hand the magesterial attitude of 'grandfathers' here will tend to make me think twice about contributing.[/QUOTE]Agreed on your analysis of those who contributed long ago.
Would be very interested to hear about your travels off the tourist path.
[QUOTE=Red Mosquito;1322104]Hullo Hullo Hullo guys, Came back home from an (exhausting) trip from Bkok+ Chiang Mai. Had a whale of a time and rediscovered parts of myself*. Without sounding philosophical, here goes the FR.[/QUOTE]Great report worth a mentioning in the Report of Distinctions so newbie get a feeling of what a night out in BKK can be about
"How to get a free one"
The other day at work, I found a plastic roach. At some point this roach was attached to a plastic stick of gum, with a spring. So anyway I took this plastic roach and put it on one of my pillows on my bed. I have a girl I've been seeing, and we have a routine. She will usually take a long shower, and then go into the bedroom while I take a shower in 30 seconds. I knew she would see it. However, as fate would have it, she was long gone by the time I was ready to go out. So, after several more beers I chose another. We got back to my place, and ended up fucking on the couch and not taking showers first. So now, I was in the shower first. After drying off, I went straight into the bedroom and got in bed. I didn't even turn on the lights. Few minutes later, she has joined me. We are making out a little bit, when all of a sudden she screams. She jerks violently, and I hear something hit the wall. Then, I remember. I turn on the lights, and we both see it. I proceed to pick it up and toss it on the bed. She jumps up, grabs her clothes, and is out the door. I wanted to tell her, but then I thought damn now I can get some pussy tomorrow.
"Feet on fire"
Now as far as I can tell I don't think I caught anything from the pussy, however after visiting a massage shop the other day. I woke up with my feet on fire. They aint go no "tough actin tinactin" around here. All they have is some bullshit powders, I will have to wear shoes and socks for a few days. So for all you coming from abroad and wanting to wear flip flops investing in a can of some anti-fungi spray is not a bad idea.
[QUOTE=Oidar; 1322272]"Feet on fire"
Now as far as I can tell I don't think I caught anything from the pussy, however after visiting a massage shop the other day. I woke up with my feet on fire. They aint go no "tough actin tinactin" around here. All they have is some bullshit powders, I will have to wear shoes and socks for a few days. So for all you coming from abroad and wanting to wear flip flops investing in a can of some anti-fungi spray is not a bad idea.[/QUOTE]Probably ringworm. Lamisil and other anti-fungal creams are available.
Coming back to BKK for a few days and wanted to try something different this time. Several years ago, on the advice of a senior mongerer, I would sometimes check in to a ST hotel. Without a girl in tow. Inevitably, a few minutes after I was in the room, there would be a knock on the door and the person from the front desk would be outside, wanting to know if I wanted a girl. I liked it because it was different from the boring same ol' same ol', and most of the girls I saw through this MO were good! Has anyone done this recently? Do the ST hotels still have their own girls?
Thanks in advance.
[quote=bionicman;1322252]great report worth a mentioning in the report of distinctions so newbie get a feeling of what a night out in bkk can be about[/quote]hey thanks bm,
yeah, i guess i was a newbie as long as going club hopping was concerned, otherwise i have been to bkk four times earlier and all the times used to settle for go go bars. my second fr goes up soon, can't find the babes picture on my mobile, did she delete them when i went to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]? i dunno lol.
red mosquito
As I'm leaving BKK had my taxi drive past Nana street, I see Stumble Inn seems to be open, about double original size, looking good. I pulled Jewly from there last month, twice, and thought this wonderful opportunity long gone. Can anyone verify it is indeed open again? Jewly still there?
Visited the massage parlor across the street from Novotel, there are two massage joints side-by-side, I visited the one closest to Skywalk. Yoyo gave a great massage with special emphasis on butt-crack and nut-sack, very erotic. On the flip she went straight to work to get me off, took a long while but she would not quit, good for her (and me!).600 for the massage, I tipped Yoyo 500 and you would have thought I punched her in the face, she seemed devastated. Don't know what she expected but her attitude sure ruined a very nice experience for me.
[QUOTE=Red Mosquito;1322608]Yeah, I guess I was a newbie as long as going club hopping was concerned, otherwise I have been to BKK four times earlier and all the times used to settle for Go Go Bars.[/QUOTE]Yes that was a good ass report. So now how will you focus your mongering strategy? Will you continue only with the discos, go back to being a gogo guy, do a healthy mix of the two, or try something totally different?
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1322658]Yes that was a good ass report. So now how will you focus your mongering strategy? Will you continue only with the discos, go back to being a gogo guy, do a healthy mix of the two, or try something totally different?[/QUOTE]Hey man,
With mongering, there cannot ever be a right answer, a perfect one, more so when you are visiting and not staying there- in which case one might get regular with an Isaan bunny at a massage parlor or a freelancer or what not- The essential personal connection. With travellers like me, guess one has to decide with the basic body language of the girl, how she reciprocates on being approached- The most dreadful thing can be netting a starfish, and that usually happens when theres not enough verbal foreplay before her being picked up.
So to cut a long story short, I guess I will rather prefer FLs at clubs than go go bar girls- One ends up paying higher sometimes when clubs are decent, but the gogo bar girls, though stunning to look at- say if they are from Baccara or Rainbow 4, have a greater chance of turning out to be starfish.
My two cents- basis fellow mongers' experience as well as my own.
Red Mosquito
Hey Guys,
I have been to Bangkok about 5-6 times and I usually go to bars around Nana, Bossy and CM2. I have not found the right quality of girls. The thai girls in Nana bars are very average and the russians in Bossy, CM2 are not good too. I'm planning a trip shortly and wanted to check with you guys about which place to go pickup model type girls like in the below links.
A) [url]http://www.thailandromance.com/thailand_models.html[/url]
B) [url]http://www.thai-dreaming.com********thai-night-life/1104.htm[/url]
I'm about 23 and would like to pickup beauties in my next trip and I'm fine with the cost but wouldn't like to hike the rates.
If anyone has any contacts, please PM me.
Thanks
[QUOTE=South Blr Paw; 1322709]Hey Guys,
I have been to Bangkok about 5-6 times and I usually go to bars around Nana, Bossy and CM2. I have not found the right quality of girls. The thai girls in Nana bars are very average and the russians in Bossy, CM2 are not good too. I'm planning a trip shortly and wanted to check with you guys about which place to go pickup model type girls like in the below links. I'm about 23 and would like to pickup beauties in my next trip and I'm fine with the cost but wouldn't like to hike the rates. If anyone has any contacts, please PM me. Thanks[/QUOTE]If take girls from online escort services you will not inflate prices, you will just confirm to those guys that they can milk more money than what the same girl can milk when hitting the streets around Nana or into Nana bars. As simple as that. I hope you do not think being able to negotiate rates from online services as you will not succeed. The contacts most people have will not be au pair with your high end expectations, since you rate most of the girls (most of the punters take) not in your right quality.
We hope to learn from you about your hunting after next trip, in terms of prices, services and, why not, images of the girls. Possibly not photoshopped as most are from their websites.
[QUOTE=Red Mosquito; 1322695]Hey man,
With mongering, there cannot ever be a right answer, a perfect one, more so when you are visiting and not staying there- in which case one might get regular with an Isaan bunny at a massage parlor or a freelancer or what not- The essential personal connection. With travellers like me, guess one has to decide with the basic body language of the girl, how she reciprocates on being approached- The most dreadful thing can be netting a starfish, and that usually happens when theres not enough verbal foreplay before her being picked up.
So to cut a long story short, I guess I will rather prefer FLs at clubs than go go bar girls- One ends up paying higher sometimes when clubs are decent, but the gogo bar girls, though stunning to look at- say if they are from Baccara or Rainbow 4, have a greater chance of turning out to be starfish.
My two cents- basis fellow mongers' experience as well as my own.
Red Mosquito[/QUOTE]That was a good FR, RM. One thing about FLs (and I am sure you practice it) You need to be careful about your surroundings. I once had a friend (yes a fellow stupid Indian) flash his diamond ring, room keys etc having dinner with FLs on Suk. Next day he woke up late evening with no recollection of what happened the last 18 hrs. Yes, he lost his ring, and cash. They left his Credit cards behind, though. Have a happy journey.
D
When I lived in London, I used to book many Thai escorts with silicon tits. I would like to ask you where I can find Thai girls with enhanced breasts in Bangkok. Is there any particular gogo, club or place? Of course, I am not interested ladyboys. I will also post this query to the other forums, for the rest of places.
Went to Pattaya over the weekend, was with the number one so no out and abouts, kinda sucked but I had fun. One noteworthy item, for any of the fellows from the west coast of the USA, in the Central Plaza in Pattaya, Carls Jr has opened up a shop with those signature good grilled hamburgers, one of the good things is they have Heineken on tap. On the 3 floor facing the beach.
Now a puss report. About 2 weeks ago I was out late went to a couple of places off of Sukhumvit didn't see anything that really attracted me. Went to Bangkok Beat for a looky and see. Met a real cute girl there named Nan, we danced and played around until they closed, clearly was ready for some boning, however due to number one expecting me to show up on her radar I knew I had to pass this one by. Kicked myself however, didn't want the drama at home.
Last night I had a pass out so I rolled the streets and hit a few go go clubs but didn't want to bar fine any then do the deed just wanted to have a few drinks and see what would develop. Started to head up Soi 11 looking for a place to end the evening when I decided to head over to the 'Beat' and see if that Nan were there. Went in and ordered a drink and within a few minutes I saw her, she acted as happy to see me as I her. We danced for an hour or so then made our way to a room for the night.
This girl has permed her hair so it has a bit of texture, no kids about 30 nice set of perk tits, (said the fellows from Japan don't like cause her tits are not big enough). We got to the room about 3 played around until about 5, full course sex. 69 CG, BBBJ Covered sex, When I was ready to pop, I pulled her head up and removed the cover and she went to work making me happy.
Repeat when we waked up. Total damage probably around 4000 including drinks at the club. Room was 890, Near Ekkamai. And I gave her 2, 000.
Will be out and about tonight. Hopefully find a sweetheart to help get this stiffness out of my back!
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[QUOTE=South Blr Paw; 1322709]Hey Guys,
I have been to Bangkok about 5-6 times and I usually go to bars around Nana, Bossy and CM2. I have not found the right quality of girls. The thai girls in Nana bars are very average and the russians in Bossy, CM2 are not good too. I'm planning a trip shortly and wanted to check with you guys about which place to go pickup model type girls like in the below links.
A) [url]http://www.thailandromance.com/thailand_models.html[/url]
B) [url]http://www.thai-dreaming.com********thai-night-life/1104.htm[/url]
I'm about 23 and would like to pickup beauties in my next trip and I'm fine with the cost but wouldn't like to hike the rates.
If anyone has any contacts, please PM me.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Go to poissedon MP at the model loung you will have more than you expect
Have prices in Bangkok gone up significantly in the last few years?
I notice prices for food, taxis, and hotel rooms are basically exactly the same as they were during my first trip in 2007. I've been been in 2008 and 2010.
But on this trip it seems like the girls are expecting a lot more. And skimming through reports here it seems like a lot of guys are paying a lot more.
Comparing '07 prices to '12. I spent a night in the same exact hotel that I checked in to on Soi Nana and am paying the same fee for the room. Menu prices in the restaurant downstairs are about the same unless my memory is off (about 2x-3x what you would pay for the exact same food on any other street).
But. In 2007 I remember bar-fining a girl for 500 and being told that if I wanted to give her anything above that it was my choice, and she stayed with me all night and seemed happy to get 1000. I bar fined a couple other girls that trip and paid them 500-1500 depending. Many of them were happy to stay with me all night and even come back the next day for free even if I was paying them at the low end of that range.
But. Now in 2012 every bar I've gone into in Bangkok the girls are often asking for 2000+ just for short time. Even some that aren't that good-looking. I didn't want to pay the 500 barfine and 2000 extra this one very plain girl was asking for short time earlier today and she started calling me Cheap Charlie and got all the other girls at the table to get up and leave.
I did get away with paying this one *extremely* cute young thing I found in Nana Plaza 1400 (plus 500 bar fine) for short time just tonight. I would have been happy paying her more if she had done more of the things I wanted. She was adorable.
Prices for girls on the street seem about the same. In 2007 I picked up girls on the street and paid them between 1000 and 1500 for short time. Today a girl on Soi 4 said she would go with me for 1200.
This year I went to Pattaya for the first time. Didn't really like it there, seems like EVERY woman I met there was a prostitute. I like to dabble in regular girls, too. Seems like in Thailand it's actually easier and cheaper to go for them sometimes. But prices were lower generally speaking. Girls along Beach road could be had for 500-700 baht for short time or even all night if you picked them up late. In some of the smaller bars I got some very pretty girls for 1000-1500 for short time and willing to do every nasty thing I could think of, and I got others to stay with me all night for 1500. Bar fines vary a lot in Pattaya, from 200 some places up to 1000+ other places. On Walking Street some of the top shelf girls cost 2000-3000 on up to 5000 for all night if you want one of the girls that does the special performances. There was one girl at the AngelWitch Gail- absolute stunner- would have loved to take her home for 3000 baht but some Turkish douchebag got to her a minute before I did and kept her away from work for the next 3 days.
I went to one tiny bar very far away from Walking Street actually near Jomtien. I figured they would be cheaper. Most of the girls in that place were butt ugly. But they actually were much more expensive I was surprised. The only doable girls in there weren't going home with customers, either.
I know prices vary a lot even in the same city and even on the same street, but is the going rate for short time now really 2000? And long time is, what? 3000? 4000? So pricey especially couple with the stronger baht.
[QUOTE=Theystolemyname; 1323690]Have prices in Bangkok gone up significantly in the last few years?
Yes.
That is why I avoid the Gogo's in BKK.
Stick to FL's, SW's and MP's. Better girls for 1/2 the price.
Recently divorced, business sold, free as a bird. Late fifties never been to Asia, first stop Bangkok. Before leaving spent hours browsing the forums, made a list. Don't know if anybody is interested but here are my feelings on the venues and ladies I met along the way.
Initiation began at Tulips. Knew from the posts you should always see the girls but being a bit nervous allowed the receptionist to select. The lady was I would guess early thirties, not bad looking I think her name was Zing. After undressing me she takes me by the hand to the shower where I get an amazing blow job. Lasted about 2 minutes before emptying both barrels. Back to the bed, lie on my belly while her mouth explored every inch from my waist to my knees. I swear her tongue must have been two inches up my ass. I turn over and although thinking one shot was my limit she gets Harvey to attention and was in and out of every orifice of her body until I came again. What an initiation. It was pure pleasure.
Next on my list was Tarntip massage on Soi7/1 and a girl called Jum. Had read what a great massage she gave and what a sweet girl she was. Wasn't disappointed, excellent massage and while not the PSE of Tulip was in a softer more sensual way just as exciting.
Next door to Tarntip both Eden's and Dr. BJ's were on list but reviews were mixed so passed.
Next stop Nataree. More confident now, had a beer and surveyed the talent. One of the greeters attached himself recommending various girls, explaining the pricing 'young girl good body no baby good service' and so on. Eventually choose a tall fair skinned girl called Pim from Chiangmai. Although pleasant friendly and very good at what she did it, it lacked the connection I felt at Tulip and Tarntip. Also found the whole bubbly bath thing a little foolish.
Spent time (twice) with Bonus at Snow White one of the prettiest girls I met with a lovely body and Focus at EZ2 the youngest and zaniest girl I met.
Had ST with girls from Angle Witch and Baccara, have to say found the go go scene something of a hustle and both times after going back to the hotel it was let's get it over with so I can leave. Maybe it was just bad luck in who I ended up with but when it's dark and some near naked 20 year old sits on your lap and with a disarming smile asks "what's your name, where you from, where you stay pleased to meet you my name Noi buy me drink I go with you" for a newbie it's not so straightforward as to what to do next. Will try again next visit after reading some more on how to get the best experience.
Played pool in the afternoons in bars on Soi 4 around the corner from The Landmark where I stayed and especially enjoyed the atmosphere at Hillary 1 where I got to know a waitress called Nun who told me lots of interesting stories about life in Bangkok for the girls from Essan.
Picked up free lancers from Gullivers on 5 (world class pub with good food) , New Wave on 7 (pool hall with great music videos and a good open air fish restaurant next door) , Mixx at the Intercontinental and Spasso at the Hyatt (both high end discos with a cover charge refundable for drinks.). Most were great experiences. What I like about the free lance scene is the feeling that if you took the money and the 30 year age difference out of the equation you could make believe that you wandered into a bar made eye contact with a beautiful girl exchanged smiles and got to know each other. Free lance girls especially those at Mixx and Spasso had better English and were more intelligent than the girls at the go go's and mp's. Also found chatting and having a meal before going back enhanced the GFE.
To round off the trip I revisited Tarntip and spent 2 hours with Jum who was the sweetest girl I met.
Prices varied from mp's at 1900 (incl 1 hr. Massage fee) to Mixx LT 6000 (3000 if I saw her again). Paid 2500 at Baccara, a total waste and 2000 at Angle Witch almost as bad. It's not the waste of money that was so annoying it's the waste of precious time.
Met fellow travelers and expats who apart from the odd grump felt as I do that truly there is no place quite like Bangkok. It's not just the availability of beautiful women, it's the laughter the energy the amazing food and although it sounds odd it's also the spirituality of the Thai people. One practice I found enchanting was how the girls would stop and pray in front of the image of Buddha on their way to work. Nun told me they were usually praying for a customer.
I left a more seasoned "man of the world" and look forward to returning.