FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[QUOTE=MikeTk1974;2195297]On this Tue I have four sessions at Sharks. IMO the casting seems stronger than OASE at Mon and GT at Wien and Wellcum last week. Body is my first priority. Not optics. Elektra is a bloody body killer. So sad her services are the bad in four. She well knows how to work in club. Over a year. She worked as an escort in UK. YMMV type. Services are selective. Last year she may be fresh. She would offer me BBBJ but no DATY. This time she not offer me BBBJ due to my hygiene. No DATY is still a must even 100 E 1 HR. However, I have not such problem in past few day club. Anyway I will pay 100 E to play fun with her body and huge natural boobs in my every visit.[/QUOTE]This time she not offer me BBBJ due to my hygiene. Elektra was telling you that and you are still going to the room with her, probably you like to be treated like that but for me it is a no go forever, on top of that I had one session with her last year she is at least for me a very average girl who could also improve her personal hygiene, never repeat even she tried many times.

Spent a long day at Sharks the other day, with ups and downs. No need to go into detail, as in general this is still (even on a slow day like when I was there) a peak experience in the German FKK landscape. Just one thing: the two best rooms I had with girls never ever mentioned here. What to conclude from that? Very simple: forget about names and recommendations. The whole idea to (I exaggerate) fly into Germany maybe from the States to find a certain girl who has had excellent write-ups here is a complete misunderstanding of how to experience a day at Sharks. The clue is to go with the flow, to observe, to be aware of the ups and downs of business, also (in my opinion) so stay sober, and to have sufficient budget to digest the occasional wasted 60 for a zimmer based on a misguided decision.

I understand that this field is very much also about anticipation and the buildup of excitement, but this is a different thing. When on location forget about everything and just be there. Sharks is still full of surprises, all the nice service is to be found without a problem.

One more general observation: there is a certain sense of urgency with many girls, as if they realised that the business model (of heydays with barely fathomable incomes) is under pressure. Which it is, clearly. The urgency is detrimental to good BJ. A zimmer can only be good if it lasts forever in 30 minutes.

[QUOTE=MikeTk1974;2195297]On this Tue I have four sessions at Sharks. IMO the casting seems stronger than OASE at Mon and GT at Wien and Wellcum last week. Body is my first priority. Not optics. Elektra is a bloody body killer. So sad her services are the bad in four. She well knows how to work in club. Over a year. She worked as an escort in UK. YMMV type. Services are selective. Last year she may be fresh. She would offer me BBBJ but no DATY. This time she not offer me BBBJ due to my hygiene. No DATY is still a must even 100 E 1 HR. However, I have not such problem in past few day club. Anyway I will pay 100 E to play fun with her body and huge natural boobs in my every visit.[/QUOTE]I think she changed name, not anymore Elektra? More attractive chestnut look now, less vulgar look than when she was fake blond. Reading You, I understand now better her: bad guy, if Aylin told her about our rooms, 2 on our first time, and Aylin knows me from her friend Liz. De, my Summer 2013 at GT GF who returned to me so many times since then. Both real woman for sex, even Aylin couldn't follow sporty level on third room.

Very big tits for ex Elektra. Dilek was also seen, and some other quite big tits at the moment at Sharks. No Brenda seen.

Even crowded on Saturday night, even after match, even 15 mn to wait for rooms upstairs, but many girls free.

After 1 am, quite dead.

Blond Kim. Ro was a good surprise, telling me at the end she finds me pretty and I was her first Sharks client? So her first YamaYama. I answered her: usually guys find girls pretty. She answered: Yes, but I can also. Very honest in room, friend with new Cosmina.

Amanda. Hu who was super GFE before room, was not on same level in bed. Most of Hungarians are not on Romanians GFE level.

What a great GFE illusion on Friday afternoon when I arrived after more than 7 hours nightmare driving, smiles, breakfast together, third room together after last week end. Later she proposed me to have diner together at 5 pm, but too early for me, unfortunately last room with the top class of the club, Katalina now at Globe, level. It was my pleasure, I drive for this level, I returned for her. Best for her far from FKK land, she didn't want to work for 50 or even 100, but never upsell for our 3 1 h 100 rooms. Really enjoyable top class woman type, 25 yo.

Have to create a new Eve, she was too short time.

[QUOTE=TeFab456;2195497]Spent a long day at Sharks the other day, with ups and downs. No need to go into detail, as in general this is still (even on a slow day like when I was there) a peak experience in the German FKK landscape. Just one thing: the two best rooms I had with girls never ever mentioned here. What to conclude from that? Very simple: forget about names and recommendations. The whole idea to (I exaggerate) fly into Germany maybe from the States to find a certain girl who has had excellent write-ups here is a complete misunderstanding of how to experience a day at Sharks. The clue is to go with the flow, to observe, to be aware of the ups and downs of business, also (in my opinion) so stay sober, and to have sufficient budget to digest the occasional wasted 60 for a zimmer based on a misguided decision.

I understand that this field is very much also about anticipation and the buildup of excitement, but this is a different thing. When on location forget about everything and just be there. Sharks is still full of surprises, all the nice service is to be found without a problem.

One more general observation: there is a certain sense of urgency with many girls, as if they realised that the business model (of heydays with barely fathomable incomes) is under pressure. Which it is, clearly. The urgency is detrimental to good BJ. A zimmer can only be good if it lasts forever in 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]How many times in this forum I wrote about that it is useless to report about girls just because chemistry between people is the key to get a great session, nice to see that you have already experienced the same.

[QUOTE=TeFab456;2195497]Very simple: forget about names and recommendations. The whole idea to (I exaggerate) fly into Germany maybe from the States to find a certain girl who has had excellent write-ups here is a complete misunderstanding of how to experience a day at Sharks. The clue is to go with the flow
.[/QUOTE]That is how I have always rolled, I like to hunt with my own eyes and ears but I do keep in back of my mind things I have read but I also take much of that (more so on USA reviews) with a grain of salt as often there is embellishment and no one no matter how seasoned a reviewer they are can review the YMMV factor as that can only be figured out in your ' interview/session. ' So I like to hunt, be hunted on my own and have an 'assess my YMMV / odds of appointment enjoyment' to my specs in person.

I see reviews more as a guide to assist me in my own hunting as opposed to a guide of how to hunt. For me Mandy was an exception as all her reviews were written by guys from all over the world, locals, guys who want long appts and short 50's as well as the kitchen sink. I figured with that (and all the PMs that flew in) she had to be good and all the hooplah was correct. But in general, 99 times out of 100 I will find my own. I agree esp comings from the USA that I will not show up with a ' list' generated from the ISG or any internet site to choose from, my eyes and ears do that.

I am with you, Sharks or any club.

I might also add if you read FKK reviews on other boards in other languages you will notice a variance in the women reviewed. The locals always know the girls the best so I will cross reference girls of interest and see what the locals say if anything but mainly I hunt. I do the same thing here too if a girl visits Austin I go see what her hometown locals have to say, they know her best. Part of my hunting is to see how often she is fucking and who; for my style mongering the ones I will go with are the ones churning out the Turks and Germans pulling high volume but not rushing meaning I'll approximate the time from ' up the stairs to down the stairs' to determine if I think she rushed them.

Reviews are great and give you pointers but there is no better tool than your eyes, your ears and your gut to make your actual decision.

Whatever works, as long as we are happy.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2195538]That is how I have always rolled, I like to hunt with my own eyes and ears but I do keep in back of my mind things I have read but I also take much of that (more so on USA reviews) with a grain of salt as often there is embellishment and no one no matter how seasoned a reviewer they are can review the YMMV factor as that can only be figured out in your ' interview/session. ' So I like to hunt, be hunted on my own and have an 'assess my YMMV / odds of appointment enjoyment' to my specs in person.

I see reviews more as a guide to assist me in my own hunting as opposed to a guide of how to hunt. For me Mandy was an exception as all her reviews were written by guys from all over the world, locals, guys who want long appts and short 50's as well as the kitchen sink. I figured with that (and all the PMs that flew in) she had to be good and all the hooplah was correct. But in general, 99 times out of 100 I will find my own. I agree esp comings from the USA that I will not show up with a ' list' generated from the ISG or any internet site to choose from, my eyes and ears do that.

I am with you, Sharks or any club..[/QUOTE]KK and colleagues.

Are there any good Turkish review boards to read and learn from?

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2195538]That is how I have always rolled, I like to hunt with my own eyes and ears but I do keep in back of my mind things I have read but I also take much of that (more so on USA reviews) with a grain of salt as often there is embellishment and no one no matter how seasoned a reviewer they are can review the YMMV factor as that can only be figured out in your ' interview/session. ' So I like to hunt, be hunted on my own and have an 'assess my YMMV / odds of appointment enjoyment' to my specs in person.

I see reviews more as a guide to assist me in my own hunting as opposed to a guide of how to hunt. For me Mandy was an exception as all her reviews were written by guys from all over the world, locals, guys who want long appts and short 50's as well as the kitchen sink. I figured with that (and all the PMs that flew in) she had to be good and all the hooplah was correct. But in general, 99 times out of 100 I will find my own. I agree esp comings from the USA that I will not show up with a ' list' generated from the ISG or any internet site to choose from, my eyes and ears do that.

I am with you, Sharks or any club..[/QUOTE]You are a great guy looking into AO specially in Dietz I am quite sure that Mandy never provide it to you.

This was my last week experience on a lingerie night on Tuesday (June 19th) at Sharks.

Same ritual, from the T1 of am Main, rented the car and went straight to the Sharks, it was about 5 pm. 65 Eur at the entrance and straight to the shower.

After skipping the indoor part, I jumped to the outdoor and got few meats cooked on the barbecue, poor quality but the taste was not that bad.

Now let's get straight to the main topic: the real meat.

Outdoor only 10/12 girls were hanging around and sadly I have to say the quality was really low 6/10, perhaps for my taste and comparing to my previous experience. (been in Shark and other FKK more than 30 times).

After chilling a bit on the beach chair I finally decided to get inside hopefully to find some quality. The result didn't change, 7/10 faces were the same as the last time I was there (early February) and while I was walking around to find my gem Sabine eventually I found a group of new faces all hidden behind the pole facing the aquarium.

Still not satisfied, I sat in front of the door that brings the girls to the shower, personally the best position so see everything.

Sabine was busy with a group of the 2/3 people ordering bottles of champagnes while dancing all the time on the pole.

Just a few minutes later, an amazing body with a massive rack come outside the shower, a Greek girl. I'm sorry but can't recall the name, should start with "K", perhaps Kalie? Kaly? But according to her there are only 2 Greeks working there. Big boned but not fat nor chubby, amazing huge natural tits, definitely F cup.

Approached her, short chat but she seemed to be still tired after the last 2 hours room she had, she would come back after 10 minutes and she eventually did. No agreements done as I was really interested to try her and we went straight to the room. She really loves to get fucked as well as handling nasty conversation. Started with a BBBJ while I was touching her massive boobs, not impressed on her performance but hey, who cares? I'm just a huge boobs lover. She kept saying she wanted to be banged and so I did, switched the position to a nice doggy while squeezing her mammillas. Asked for a missionary and pleased right away and while still talking to me with nasty words I asked her to let me finish with her hands. After a couple of minutes I exploded my liquid all over her wrist and arms. We had a small chat and she said she loves money and sex, well, she is at the right time in the right place.

Damage 100 E.

Time 45 minutes.

Will repeat? Yes.

After an hour, I was walking behind the pole to see the new group of the girls mentioned earlier, and found a lonely cute girl with a pony tail sitting alone. Approached her as she seemed to be bored, find out to be Roxy! Believe it or not, after 10 times in Shark and many positive reviews of her I could never had the chance to see or understand who was her. Without any hesitation I asked her to have a room despite she mentioned she was about to leave. Not going to repeat all what you guys said about her, I do confirm all the positive reviews, GF experience and really nice to talk. Had 1 hour session and would definitely repeat.

But the award goes to the last girl, I was really skeptical about her as she was sitting all the time and never seen her going with anyone, but I've got intrigued by her hug rack. Her name is Dalma, from Romania. Black hair gathered up in a bun, slightly chubby but in my opinion perfect balance as she's tall and big boned as well.

Ended up to be a very nice girl, super polite and great sense of humor. Always smiling and never mentioned anything related to money or options whatsoever. I decided to stay an hour as I was really tired after my 12 hours flight, and had one of best blowjob ever had in my past 2/3 FKK's session which include 15 girls around. Switched onto various position and ended up with a nice oily hand job.

Damage 100 are.

Time 1 H or slightly more.

Will repeat? Absolutely, although she's is leaving on June 26th and I'm planning to visit Shark on that day!!

After 6 hours spent inside, Sabine was still busy with that group mentioned above and eventually left with 3 guys and 5 girls all together for an orgy. Tired of waiting, left around 12 am very satisfied about the girls I had.

Still the quality was low, saw a couple of latinas and alias, as well as a couple of black girls. The rest were Romanians.

For the Oase's review, which I was on the next day, will post it to the other topic.

Will be again this week!

[QUOTE=SmokeLight;2195549]KK and colleagues.

Are there any good Turkish review boards to read and learn from?[/QUOTE]Do not know of any Turkish boards, mainly German sites I will check out for the cross research and compare to ours. Locals don't get fucked over and although there is no guarantee Mr Tourist here will get the same simply put I do not see the guys who know the girls best pounding away at them if consistency, value and quality of service is not there. The Turks I just watch in the club as I have been told I tend to match up to their ' pick, promptly poke, promptly finish and pay and part ways' style. Of course I am sure there are exceptions to this and the above is just my style. I am happy for the guys that enjoy long appts and establishing a more genuine relationship, I am just set in my ways.

I also think some sub-forums exist on local sites with varying permission settings via their admin panels that are cloaked and invite only (we have them here too, not hard to figure it out) Some posters on those boards will see their post count go up maybe 5 in a day yet I can only see maybe 3 of them which tells me the software picked up the posts in the post count but the missing 2 posts were posted in a cloaked / hidden forum meaning invite only, possibly paid. I am sure there are great posts by many in there I can not see. At the end of the day no matter how good a forum is the only real guide to trust is our own eyes, our experiences which shape our monger careers and our gut.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2195538]I see reviews more as a guide to assist me in my own hunting as opposed to a guide of how to hunt. For me Mandy was an exception as all her reviews were written by guys from all over the world, locals, guys who want long appts and short 50's as well as the kitchen sink. I figured with that (and all the PMs that flew in) she had to be good and all the hooplah was correct. But in general, 99 times out of 100 I will find my own. I agree esp comings from the USA that I will not show up with a ' list' generated from the ISG or any internet site to choose from, my eyes and ears do that.[/QUOTE]Only time reviews seem to matter is when it is a tie-breaker scenario. Monger likes the look of three different WGs, that he picked with his own eyes with zero input from me, but he can't decide which one to take. If I say, "I don't know anything about first two you pointed out. But that third WG, I know three people that have gone with her. And they all liked her. " Then yes, monger will actually take her. But generally, they must have some level of visual interest first, otherwise recommendation falls on deaf ears.

I believe newbies, do as you say, come in with a list of "recommended" names, but I've never known anybody to blindly go with a WG based on how recommended she is in forum. Most men seem to be optic-oriented. Newbies have asked me: "So which one is this Mandy I keep hearing about?" Then I'll point her out. Then the guy will immediately respond: "She's not my type". Or sometimes, I will be sitting next to a guy who never reads the forum and I will say: "See that one over there. She's Mandy. She has the best reviews. If you like her, you better go talk to her now. " Then guy will take a look at her. And say "She's not my type".

KK,

I agree turkish boys seem to have good leads on the girls and their presence in clubs is very consistent. I hear from WGs that Turkish clients often prefer strict 30-minute rooms to boost their self-esteem or something like that. And some girls wish to attract more Turks on busy nights like Friday and Saturday for making a steady flow of 50 euro notes without much pressure on DFK and DATY. Anyway, an inside into a Turkish review board would be an interesting read, if such thing exist.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2195668]Only time reviews seem to matter is when it is a tie-breaker scenario. Monger likes the look of three different WGs, that he picked with his own eyes with zero input from me, but he can't decide which one to take. If I say, "I don't know anything about first two you pointed out. But that third WG, I know three people that have gone with her. And they all liked her. " Then yes, monger will actually take her. But generally, they must have some level of visual interest first, otherwise recommendation falls on deaf ears.

I believe newbies, do as you say, come in with a list of "recommended" names, but I've never known anybody to blindly go with a WG based on how recommended she is in forum. Most men seem to be optic-oriented. Newbies have asked me: "So which one is this Mandy I keep hearing about?" Then I'll point her out. Then the guy will immediately respond: "She's not my type". Or sometimes, I will be sitting next to a guy who never reads the forum and I will say: "See that one over there. She's Mandy. She has the best reviews. If you like her, you better go talk to her now. " Then guy will take a look at her. And say "She's not my type".[/QUOTE]I hope I am reading your reply correctly and replying accordingly, if not my apologies. I think you are right on about the newbies and ' the lists' they carry in but disagree that no guys (here at home and everywhere I have traveled) do not pick off reviews only. I have seen hundreds over the years do such. In fact the internet has made many a career and unfortunately many guys have been disapointed with their selection that fall in to that trap. However, I do agree that many guys will do just as you say they will use the names as a guide and decide to pass once a visual is had. Tons of guys in fact, you're right but I do not like to use ' always or never' as the reality always falls in the middle although it may lean left or right of the center if you bell shaped curved it. Some guys will go 100% off a review others will pass as you have correctly pointed out once they see the girl and I will also add others will pass even if the girl is on ' the list', is pretty (per your optics) as they may get a vibe service (more so my way) is not there. I am one of those guys myself. So I guess I disagree and agree with you and always think the middle ground is the reality. I do not like to use extremes on opposite ends of the spectrum, because all of us our different. We also evolve as mongers and shift within our own optics / service scale over time. The monger and monger style of myself in 1988 and in 2018 are very similar yet very different. That shift was half the fun :D

I know one guy quite well, perhaps better than others and he flies all the way to Germany from the Divided States of America and has chosen as his favorite club a place where the majority of men would consider the girls to be subhuman yet to this guy I speak of they are the Queens of all Queens. When he was 20-30 it was all optics, at 30-35 it was still optics and he knew everything or thought he did and at 35 he met a old man and thought he was stupid. Anyway, that old man called the guy a young know it all punk who knows about 1% of 1% of what mongering is all about and schooled that guy (was at the Beetle Bar in Jaco) all night long taking every girl the 35 year old wanted ahead of him. The 35 yr old missed the girl with the best service in the club (she was not the best looking) as he was only focused on optics. The 35 year old finally asked him what the hell was going on, listened and from that day on revamped his entire game plan to include a balance of beauty and service as well as tactics to beat others to the punch sometimes aiming high sometimes low balancing both optics / service perception like juggling two balls. Today that guy is almost 50 and balances all kinds of girls from ' ugly' to beautiful using the skills that old man taught him in how to pick out his hookers and walk away happy. This guy I speak of is myself. I also hope he (the older more experienced monger at the time) is resting in peace. He taught me more in those 6-7 hours that night as well as the following night than I have learned on the internet since 1992 when I joined a board that was a ' party of barking dogs' (some Yanks may know what I speak of but it is a reference to a board we can not mention even if it is no longer alive.

As to Mrs. Mandy Sharks as she seems to be a case study most can relate to here as ' we all know Mandy or of Mandy. ' You are right about her optics in the sense not all of us see her the same and you're right; several have posted or told me ' she is not all that. ' In my case the review consistency, a very low perception of YMMV (I sensed most get good sessions from reading) I combined with looks to make the decision to see her. I went with my gut. However you're right again w the visual part, I visually ' approved' her as well so spot on about guys being gung ho on a girl but passing due to looks. Tons of guys will not go off a review only, but many do and I will stand by that respectfully as we seem to differ a tad there. In Mandy's case I went crazy looking for that tattoo until I was sent some photographic intelligence and there was no question I was seeing her. I went to Sharks, found her right away as all systems were in place (had a little help) and the rest is history.

As to recommendation in clubs. I rarely listen and could give a fuck what someone I do not know well tells me (with exception) unless it is a negative and if a positive I want to hear it from a local club regular or a veteran roughly my own age simply because I relate to the older guys more but respect all. At Mainhatten a German told me ' you MUST see that girl'; I did. That was Greta. In Artemis a German told me the same and that was one memorable top notch session I wish I could find her. She told me she was from Cologne but the German told me really Leipzig that is closer to Berlin so for whatever reason she staged her hometown but he said she couldn't hide her accent. And finally in September 2017 I was dragged out of Sharks and taken to this dump about 20-30 km away. A German there told me ' pick her' and pointed to a girl sitting in back smoking. I picked her once again going off a local and that was the night I fell upon the spell of Nein Vashing and the quart of cum that leaked out of her when I pulled out at closing time.

Perhaps I went off on a tangent here but hopefully addressed your replies.

On a side note keep up the thought provoking posts. I see your style and mine (I. E. Approach vs non approach interpretations) extremely different but if it weren't for these differences we wouldn't have all these vast options. Well one thing is for sure, I do not thinking we will be jostling for position on a filthy red couch anytime soon. :D

Sorry this was so long but I am bored to death now!! Now please pick another topic so I can have something to do tonight!

And I am glad to see you enjoying yourself :D

[QUOTE=SmokeLight;2195679]KK,

I agree turkish boys seem to have good leads on the girls and their presence in clubs is very consistent. I hear from WGs that Turkish clients often prefer strict 30-minute rooms to boost their self-esteem or something like that. And some girls wish to attract more Turks on busy nights like Friday and Saturday for making a steady flow of 50 euro notes without much pressure on DFK and DATY. Anyway, an inside into a Turkish review board would be an interesting read, if such thing exist.[/QUOTE]According to girls, even some are rude for sex, but they are fast cumming like Asians, and no kissing, nor foreplay. 15 mn rabbit rooms for 50.

At Sharks, Asians don t seem anymore so easy for hunting girls, maybe why girls business seem slower than before. No Evita seen, but Elen is a new Asian specialist.

No upselling for my 2 week ends and 7 rooms with 4 different girls. All girls seemed happy for 1 h for 100 , my minimum standard to take time to enjoy, with smiles after. Viorica and Kim have real will to please, Kim was so cute with her: pretty man, not only usual: nice man, girls say at the end of the room, but rather than performances, even rather than behavior to really will to please, Mandy was working and was free on this very slow Friday afternoon but I didn't run to her, compare to class and charm who gave me a so smiling welcome. I thought to let her taking breakfast with another girl, but she invited me to join her and then didn't speak anymore to the other girl. For our 3 rooms, she was not a top performer, I had to be careful not to hurt her, but she let me play my games and it worked since first room. What a classy sophisticated beauty, what blue eyes, what a smile to contemplate, what a pleasure for my mind with such princess, even not perfect but a real 25 yo Romanian woman. We never talked about money, smart girls don t speak about money because they are clever enough to know it kills GFE illusion. Too short time with her, but she is not able to work in FKK land. I thought to advice her for Globe of course, my friend telling me: Since your previous Eve, even I had great girls and a exceptional German escort, but 8 months working hard every week end to find again such class, when my previous lost all her class and charm, falling now in low level business, but this business is too difficult for her, so I didn't, when I saw her stopping her day after our room which was her first of the day, on previous Sunday and on this Friday when she didn't want to work after, waiting for diner, inviting me again, like she didn't want other guys ask her, only 100 just to pay entry, eat, sleep and wait for her plane soon. Good luck to her, thanks for dreams. I drive for such girls, more attractive for me than only performers. I make my own performances with girls, even having most often to be careful, as white African.

Brasov should be interesting to visit, not for mountains, I have mine closer, nor Dracula, but many real beauties come from there.

I believe that guys whose optic girls are not regarded as hot by the majority of blokes are lucky. Throughout my life I have viewed girls who are considered hot by the majority of men as, in fact, optics. However, I have reached the stage in my life where beauty alone does not do it for me. Also, my experience at FKKs is that the hotter the provider the worse the service generally. I much prefer to have a good performance by an average girl than a lukewarm one by a looker. Sessioning an optic means spending more money for poorer service, I'd leave such sessions for inexperienced mongers which I once was.

KK. You are right: there are no absolute truths. I have known many occasions where a guy has chosen a girl totally on the basis of reviews. But I like to think that for most of us the reviews are only a guide when we are otherwise unsure. Universal bad reviews can help when we have a bad feeling about a girl. So I go to a new club with a short list of girls who have got consistent bad reviews on the relevant German language forums. But if I have a good feeling about a girl then I will ignore bad reviews.

As for optics, again you are right. Whilst my tastes are not so catholic as yours, what counts is how I feel about a girl, as much as looks. One time I had been waiting for a totally beautiful girl to become free all day, model height, confidence, beautiful body. But when she finally came over to me (I rarely take the initiative) I rejected her, and immediately went with a 5 foot podgy mother who turned out to be my wildest fuck ever. The model looked at me daggers drawn and my favourite girl was furious "I cannot believe you went with THAT!

Sometimes though a high optic gives stellar service. One can't put down hard and fast rules.On my first FKK visit, to Atlantis, I chose purely on optics, and it wasn't until my fifth visit that I had a bad session but now it is a much harder game to play

The most useful acronym here is YMMV.

McAdonis. I am one of those Mandy refusniks you mention. Maybe it was because I had had a bad day dealing with the Precious Princesses at Sharks, but I felt sour and declined, thinking she was not my type. I know I missed a great worker but I think my mood would have subtracted something from her work. I used the "not my type" rationale to avoid admitting at the time my sour mood

[QUOTE=Optimist;2195817]KK. You are right: there are no absolute truths. I have known many occasions where a guy has chosen a girl totally on the basis of reviews. But I like to think that for most of us the reviews are only a guide when we are otherwise unsure. Universal bad reviews can help when we have a bad feeling about a girl. So I go to a new club with a short list of girls who have got consistent bad reviews on the relevant German language forums. But if I have a good feeling about a girl then I will ignore bad reviews.

As for optics, again you are right. Whilst my tastes are not so catholic as yours, what counts is how I feel about a girl, as much as looks. One time I had been waiting for a totally beautiful girl to become free all day, model height, confidence, beautiful body. But when she finally came over to me (I rarely take the initiative) I rejected her, and immediately went with a 5 foot podgy mother who turned out to be my wildest fuck ever. The model looked at me daggers drawn and my favourite girl was furious "I cannot believe you went with THAT!

Sometimes though a high optic gives stellar service. One can't put down hard and fast rules.On my first FKK visit, to Atlantis, I chose purely on optics, and it wasn't until my fifth visit that I had a bad session but now it is a much harder game to play

The most useful acronym here is YMMV.

McAdonis. I am one of those Mandy refusniks you mention. Maybe it was because I had had a bad day dealing with the Precious Princesses at Sharks, but I felt sour and declined, thinking she was not my type. I know I missed a great worker but I think my mood would have subtracted something from her work. I used the "not my type" rationale to avoid admitting at the time my sour mood[/QUOTE]Princesses of what of the bitches, are you willing that some of your female family member will be consider as the princess of Shark, who can remember the name of the princess of World, or Samya or Shark in 2013, just 5 years back.

Personal mood swings can influence the choices we make in the clubs -- usually not in a positive way.

One time, I had a pretty negative session with a girl, something which made me go to the front desk for the only time in my life. Needless to say, I was miffed and stewing for a while after that. To "show her", I quickly did two successive sessions with girls who were somewhat borderline for me and who I would not have taken otherwise. Clearly, those sessions did little to improve my sourness.

Another time, a stock I owned jumped up big time in after hours in the US equity market. It was night time and I was in Sharks when I checked the quote. I was suddenly in the money by a lot, rather unexpectedly. To celebrate it, I decided to splurge by taking a session with a girl who I normally would not take. Now, did this make any sense? No! First of all, just going to FKK and having any session with any girl is a splurge. But I had taken the rather dumb view that somehow fucking the girls I normally fuck is part of my routine, something I already budgeted for; and I felt that I should use the unexpected windfall to use on a girl that I would not take normally.

In the end, it was a wasted session, and the bonus I wanted to give myself with my ill gotten gain turned into rubbish due to an irrational decision.

It pays to have a Zen mindset. Practice meditation perhaps and do some yoga? It has been a long time I can even see my toes standing straight, let alone being able to bend down and touch them. I guess that rules out Yoga for me.

Jnpr30. You are right. Best not to get attached to any bad experiences. Once a girl in a club asked me to teach her Zen meditation!. Not what I go to FKK for lol

BTW. Thank you for your very honest recent report on Sharks.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2195790]I believe that guys whose optic girls are not regarded as hot by the majority of blokes are lucky. Throughout my life I have viewed girls who are considered hot by the majority of men as, in fact, optics. However, I have reached the stage in my life where beauty alone does not do it for me. Also, my experience at FKKs is that the hotter the provider the worse the service generally. I much prefer to have a good performance by an average girl than a lukewarm one by a looker. Sessioning an optic means spending more money for poorer service, I'd leave such sessions for inexperienced mongers which I once was.[/QUOTE]I am 15 years behind you I think you been doing this 45 years from another post but I reached the very stage you speak of several years ago. I fucked my share of beauties a million times over when I was a younger monger and you are right over the long run service levels lessen as looks go up. This does not mean that a hottie will give a poor session nor that a ugly will give a great one rather if you have thousands of hookers over many decades this trend will be more likely be noticed than unnoticed. If you told me that 15 years ago when 35 I would have laughed but today 15 years later in the other direction I agree 100 percent and with Optimist's post as well.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2195888]

Another time, a stock I owned jumped up big time in after hours in the US equity market. It was night time and I was in Sharks when I checked the quote. I was suddenly in the money by a lot, rather unexpectedly. To celebrate it, I decided to splurge by taking a session with a girl who I normally would not take. Now, did this make any sense? No! [/QUOTE]Makes sense to me :D

It is good I am headed there soon as for some reason in my trips over the last two years the market rallied hard about 75% of the time but than again we have been a roaring bull. Looks like a bear is staring at me in the face now for this trip. I usually check at about 4 PM over there as it is 10 AM in NYC and the market has had its opening and some trading time. Those overnight calls are risky, it is movement on extremely low volume which can get wiped out and a lot of that pre-market trading is movement without traders yet seeing where the Japanese, Chinese and European mainly the FTSE and the DAX settle at or how they perform. I got smoked out of the water much more than I won playing overnight. I stopped playing all together and just let it ride under the thought of ' it is not about timing the market it is about time in the market'; in the long run you win even with the down times as the bull's roar is much louder than the bear's stomp.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2195790]I believe that guys whose optic girls are not regarded as hot by the majority of blokes are lucky. Throughout my life I have viewed girls who are considered hot by the majority of men as, in fact, optics. However, I have reached the stage in my life where beauty alone does not do it for me. Also, my experience at FKKs is that the hotter the provider the worse the service generally. I much prefer to have a good performance by an average girl than a lukewarm one by a looker. Sessioning an optic means spending more money for poorer service, I'd leave such sessions for inexperienced mongers which I once was.[/QUOTE]Real beauties with sophisticated classy look are often not so busy, because common guys think they will not give good services, treating them like shit, just self esteem and self confidence problem, but for my experiences, the prettiest are the best in bed for my mind.

On 2 last week ends at Sharks, starting about 12 June, a new girl was so far higher all the others for her class and charm, just had to look at her shoes to understand, so different than the others, sitting not hunting, she didn't like FKK business, but I didn't see guys running to her, so it was very good for me, she did welcome me, I was her only client on Sunday 17 and Friday 22 June, a dreamed Eve. Too classy for FKK.

All the best for her, elsewhere, I was honored to have 3 rooms with her, even not a performer, but I would have liked to have more time with her and to create my new Eve.

Beauty and class make me dream.

KK, I believe you and Turgid reach a level of nirvana that all hardcore mongers should strive for. I suspect both of you would find 75 percent of the LU visually acceptable. So for you two it is just a matter of finding someone who passes the interview, correct? I've met some local German and Dutch mongers who have reached this level. They told me exactly as you say "When I first started, I was like you. I only cared about optics.".

With regards to reaching this nirvana, I think race, years of experience, and whether the monger is a fly-in tourist plays a factor. For example, all the fly-in Asian mongers that I've talked to, only seem to find between 5 percent and 25 percent visually acceptable. Although one older local Asian gentleman that regularly attends Sharks is all about service. White fly-in tourists seem to be picky as well, but generally have a wider spec.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2195982]KK, I believe you and Turgid reach a level of nirvana that all hardcore mongers should strive for. I suspect both of you would find 75 percent of the LU visually acceptable. So for you two it is just a matter of finding someone who passes the interview, correct? I've met some local German and Dutch mongers who have reached this level. They told me exactly as you say "When I first started, I was like you. I only cared about optics.".
.[/QUOTE]75 percent in the mainstream clubs, 95 percent up the road :D

Yes, that is a very good guess at a number for myself and probably one of the reasons why I lick my chops when I read ' the LU is not great' as I know it is probably less crowded, a buyers market and I am happy without the top percentile of girls there and Sharks Garbage would be a pot of gold in Austin TX. I love midweek mainstream club visits and getting there early. The pickings are great for my standards. Usually there are hotties always there and pigs as well and all in between so I will never have an issue finding a girl in any club. I am a service guy and I have no issue bagging up the low hanging fruits as long as they are in that 75 percent. I think that is a good ballpark number.

As long as they pass the interview you refer to.

As to mongering 'Nirvana' I think it can be reached at any age. It is all about finding out what works for you and always adjusting accordingly over the years and if one can do that they will permanently be in hobby nirvana but it is different for all of us. For me it was the acceptance I was nothing more than money to them. My times have been a helluva lot more fun ever since.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2195982]KK, I believe you and Turgid reach a level of nirvana that all hardcore mongers should strive for. I suspect both of you would find 75 percent of the LU visually acceptable. So for you two it is just a matter of finding someone who passes the interview, correct? I've met some local German and Dutch mongers who have reached this level. They told me exactly as you say "When I first started, I was like you. I only cared about optics.".

With regards to reaching this nirvana, I think race, years of experience, and whether the monger is a fly-in tourist plays a factor. For example, all the fly-in Asian mongers that I've talked to, only seem to find between 5 percent and 25 percent visually acceptable. Although one older local Asian gentleman that regularly attends Sharks is all about service. White fly-in tourists seem to be picky as well, but generally have a wider spec.[/QUOTE]You can also have a different approach, in 15 years I sessioned more than 600 girls including 100 escorts with a lot of ON and several days together. My level of expectation are getting higher and higher and I only will select top girls even I will leave the club without any room or refuse to go the the room with a escort if she doesn't fulfil my expectations.

Why should I spend my time and money with average girls, sex is always very mechanical and the beauty is what matters for me. Why should I leave in a poor apartment if I can afford a villa, why driving a Korean car if can drive a Mercedes and son on.

For me in Shark there are only 3 girls I will go with, all the others are ugly for my eyes, the girl must have a beautiful face, very nice and soft skin and not looking and behaving like a *****.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2195954]Real beauties with sophisticated classy look are often not so busy, because common guys think they will not give good services, treating them like shit, just self esteem and self confidence problem, but for my experiences, the prettiest are the best in bed for my mind.

On 2 last week ends at Sharks, starting about 12 June, a new girl was so far higher all the others for her class and charm, just had to look at her shoes to understand, so different than the others, sitting not hunting, she didn't like FKK business, but I didn't see guys running to her, so it was very good for me, she did welcome me, I was her only client on Sunday 17 and Friday 22 June, a dreamed Eve. Too classy for FKK.

All the best for her, elsewhere, I was honored to have 3 rooms with her, even not a performer, but I would have liked to have more time with her and to create my new Eve.

Beauty and class make me dream.[/QUOTE]What I have gathered from your posts is that just being with a beauty is a good session for you. You are a die hard romantist so just soaking in her 'essence' is a thrill. I am a down to earth libertine. I must bang hard in all conceivable positions with commensurate enthusiasm from my date. Obviously I will be disappointed in FKK but what is a guy who likes European dames to do? Especially now that the choice of non-Eastern European dolls is non-existent? Furthermore the existing crop is spoilt by the influx of 3-1-3-3 foreigners (3 inches, 1 position, 3 minutes, 300 euros) (300 e being an exaggeration in some cases). The Romanian providers being astute business women will gravitate towards their custom and are to be totally commended. However, what is to become of the monger who desires enjoyable coitus? Latin America, anyone?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2196151]What I have gathered from your posts is that just being with a beauty is a good session for you. You are a die hard romantist so just soaking in her 'essence' is a thrill. I am a down to earth libertine. I must bang hard in all conceivable positions with commensurate enthusiasm from my date. Obviously I will be disappointed in FKK but what is a guy who likes European dames to do? Especially now that the choice of non-Eastern European dolls is non-existent? Furthermore the existing crop is spoilt by the influx of 3-1-3-3 foreigners (3 inches, 1 position, 3 minutes, 300 euros) (300 e being an exaggeration in some cases). The Romanian providers being astute business women will gravitate towards their custom and are to be totally commended. However, what is to become of the monger who desires enjoyable coitus? Latin America, anyone?[/QUOTE]Why do you need to bang hard, you should speak with your psychiatrist about this. The normal man just want to be with a girl and have fun with her.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2196151]What I have gathered from your posts is that just being with a beauty is a good session for you. You are a die hard romantist so just soaking in her 'essence' is a thrill. I am a down to earth libertine. I must bang hard in all conceivable positions with commensurate enthusiasm from my date. Obviously I will be disappointed in FKK but what is a guy who likes European dames to do? Especially now that the choice of non-Eastern European dolls is non-existent? Furthermore the existing crop is spoilt by the influx of 3-1-3-3 foreigners (3 inches, 1 position, 3 minutes, 300 euros) (300 e being an exaggeration in some cases). The Romanian providers being astute business women will gravitate towards their custom and are to be totally commended. However, what is to become of the monger who desires enjoyable coitus? Latin America, anyone?[/QUOTE]You don't know me, but yes, I like to dream, not only with girls, so I try to achieve exceptional things, most would never be able to do. About girls, I m not attracted by GND, I don't like vulgar hunter, when at Globe they ask us if we had a wow experience, I look for wow look girls. Very difficult for me to find real beauties, which is first step for attraction for me, I don't like when GND come and touch me, when I found a beauty, then I will try to work to build her for my tastes, if she is woman enough. I don't beg to be sucked with girls, I do the job and wait if she wants to give me back. When you make cum girls, not only porn moaning, some say thank you, and most will to please you back. Most enjoyable for me is to get from girls without needing to ask. When I succeed to find a sensual GFE beauty, then I go only for her, because not many. I worked every week end for 8 months to find a new Eve, had 3 rooms with her, even she was not motivated to have sex for FKK rate, she had only 1 room with me on Sunday 17 and Friday 22 June and stopped to work. It was too short time at Sharks with her, but when I was looking at her blue eyes, smile, dark hard nipples, she was really a wow girl. Just a dream, but I drive for this, only looking for this, sex with GND is so boring.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2195982]KK, I believe you and Turgid reach a level of nirvana that all hardcore mongers should strive for. [/QUOTE]This seems to me to be the equivalent of civilian me saying, "If I like fat chicks, I would be in heaven."

It would be nice to be able to make optics less of a priority but I'm not going to go out of my way to do it. At my 35 year old stage, I find it more rewarding to just find a more diversified taste. That means if a tall, barbie blonde with big tits is my ideal spec, finding the beauty in an exotic, petite Turkish girl could be rewarding. Finding beauty in a chubby girl with a cute face that provides great service? Not my thing. That's exactly why I've never gone with Mandy.

I don't think anyone is explicitly saying it, but I think it would be incorrect to say that an optics minded monger settles for poor service. The game is to find the highest optic provider who provides exceptional service. The biggest negative I find with this is that by mathematical logic, you would have to repeat somewhat regularly limiting the number of girls you can experience in your mongering career.

This is a good report. A bit too long, but that's acceptable.

A few things:

Viorica does give good service. I think I said the same thing here before.

Raissa Oase. Yes, she provides rim jobs. As do many others. My regulars do it for free, but I take long sessions.

A few of the names in your list do provide BBFS. Will not name names.

Steffi is boring. I can't see why guys think she is pretty. Ordinary GND face.

NAya is a Fox. I love butt fucking her.

Finally, you should be posting reviews under club threads. Not in Lounge. Your choice however.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=2195394[/URL]#post2195394.

[QUOTE=Takedown;2196295]......I don't think anyone is explicitly saying it, but I think it would be incorrect to say that an optics minded monger settles for poor service.....[/QUOTE]Think again. As a reminder here is an excerpt from a post by Ultrahappy in the Oase thread:"I remember one time, when she hadn't been at Oase so long, I tried to explain to a group of Chinese guys I was chatting with that it probably made sense to avoid her due to her bad service. Then, one of the Chinese guys promptly ran off to the room with her. One of the Chinese guys explained to me, "You see, it doesn't matter how bad she is. We don't get to fuck girls that look like that in China. It's worth it just for the experience of being able to fuck her -- no matter how bad the service is. ".

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2195982]With regards to reaching this nirvana, I think race, years of experience, and whether the monger is a fly-in tourist plays a factor. For example, all the fly-in Asian mongers that I've talked to, only seem to find between 5 percent and 25 percent visually acceptable. Although one older local Asian gentleman that regularly attends Sharks is all about service. White fly-in tourists seem to be picky as well, but generally have a wider spec.[/QUOTE]Definitely. Not to mention culture. Seen some videos on youtube about how westerners perception of beauty also changes after moving to China. In China, slim is almost everything it seems. And a V-shaped face. The cute kink is there also, same as in Japan, but it seems to be different than an american / Europeans taste in cuteness. While an american friend of mine who is slightly chubby and mongers in Asia all the time picks slightly chubby girls 4 out of 5 times. He has the money for anyone and picks anything. But he says he would take cute ahead of pretty any time, any day. And the slightly chubby ones have more fat than Mandy, which I feel is inside my acceptable range, although I haven't seen her in awhile now.

Beauty standards around the world:

[URL]https://youtu.be/UwD_dLtwiM8[/URL]

Not really accurate since they have combined eastern Europe into one and western Europe into one. I do feel like they hit the mark on western Europe though. And out of the 7 options, it would clearly be my choice. No idea what's up with the american look there. I would rate her a 5 at maximum! Too much beyonce for me.

If you are from any of the other countries, do you feel it has hit the marks? I suspect it could be off on most of eastern Europe and perhaps north America.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2196417]Think again. As a reminder here is an excerpt from a post by Ultrahappy in the Oase thread:"I remember one time, when she hadn't been at Oase so long, I tried to explain to a group of Chinese guys I was chatting with that it probably made sense to avoid her due to her bad service. Then, one of the Chinese guys promptly ran off to the room with her. One of the Chinese guys explained to me, "You see, it doesn't matter how bad she is. We don't get to fuck girls that look like that in China. It's worth it just for the experience of being able to fuck her -- no matter how bad the service is. ".[/QUOTE]Ah, let me correct myself to cover all technicalities. This is the internet and all.

"I don't think anyone is explicitly saying that optics minded mongers [B]HAVE TO[/B] sacrifice service for optics."

Did you guys see how the Romanians were rooting for the Koreans in the Germany vs Korea world cup soccer match? They were jumping, shouting and cheering when Korea scored and eventually won the match. I was watching it in the bar area. BTW it was a sausage fest in Sharks today. Its a sellers' market. Recently most days at FKKs are more men than women.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2196558]Its a sellers' market. Recently most days at FKKs are more men than women.[/QUOTE]At least on the days that Germany played, married men and men with GFs had an excuse to have a boys night out. Probably more common with the local immigrant men, since their significant other wouldn't care about how well DE plays.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2196558]Did you guys see how the Romanians were rooting for the Koreans in the Germany vs Korea world cup soccer match? They were jumping, shouting and cheering when Korea scored and eventually won the match. I was watching it in the bar area. BTW it was a sausage fest in Sharks today. Its a sellers' market. Recently most days at FKKs are more men than women.[/QUOTE]Germans must be so pissed. LOL.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2196435]Beauty standards around the world:

[URL]https://youtu.be/UwD_dLtwiM8[/URL][/QUOTE]Video explicitly states that they surveyed photo retouchers around the world. Presumably the type of people who would work for modeling publications. The core audience would be women.

With fly-in mongers, it is completely different. If they are fly-in sex tourists (and not in DE for business), then they actively made a decision to come to DE to monger. They probably have a strong preference for white European women. I normally survey a lot of fly-in mongers because I want to know about Thailand, Brazil or other venues. With fly-in Asians, it seems 50 percent of the time, they will say something along the lines of "I don't like Asian girls. Or I only like the mixed ones". With fly-in Whites, that figure might be 25 percent. That can't be true of the general population, because from what I understand, sex scene in Thailand is filled with Whites, Chinese, Japanese mongers. Meaning the men who fly-in to visit FKK may not necessarily reflect the tastes of men from their home country.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2196558]Did you guys see how the Romanians were rooting for the Koreans in the Germany vs Korea world cup soccer match? They were jumping, shouting and cheering when Korea scored and eventually won the match. I was watching it in the bar area. BTW it was a sausage fest in Sharks today. Its a sellers' market. Recently most days at FKKs are more men than women.[/QUOTE]On last Friday and week end before, slow business at Sharks, really no problem to get girls. Top class one was not busy, but she didn't want to have sex for club rate.

German team need a new boss like Beckenbauer or Matthaus, and a new Gerd Muller, too unefficient.

[QUOTE=Takedown;2196295]I don't think anyone is explicitly saying it, but I think it would be incorrect to say that an optics minded monger settles for poor service. The game is to find the highest optic provider who provides exceptional service. The biggest negative I find with this is that by mathematical logic, you would have to repeat somewhat regularly limiting the number of girls you can experience in your mongering career.[/QUOTE]For sure there are men who seek high optics and high services. But you somewhat alluded to the problem. If there are only two WGs in the entire club that you are willing to consider, then you can't really shop around for a better deal. So that means if the WG stands her ground, you are forced to agree to her terms, because you have no other viable options.

[QUOTE=Takedown;2196467]Ah, let me correct myself to cover all technicalities. This is the internet and all.

"I don't think anyone is explicitly saying that optics minded mongers [B]HAVE TO[/B] sacrifice service for optics."[/QUOTE]Why to pay to fuck a girl who is not attractive for look? What can be the pleasure with a GND? Only fucking her? Or gossiping?

Even difficult to find, but I prefer to pay for beauties, and I always thought, most of time, we make girls becoming good for us, from our behavior.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2196558]BTW it was a sausage fest in Sharks today. Its a sellers' market. Recently most days at FKKs are more men than women.[/QUOTE]Not good! I was planning on visiting Sharks this weekend but I hate it when its gets too busy and hate it even more when the male patrons vastly outnumber the female entrepreneurs!

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2196573]Video explicitly states that they surveyed photo retouchers around the world. Presumably the type of people who would work for modeling publications. The core audience would be women.

With fly-in mongers, it is completely different. If they are fly-in sex tourists (and not in DE for business), then they actively made a decision to come to DE to monger. They probably have a strong preference for white European women. I normally survey a lot of fly-in mongers because I want to know about Thailand, Brazil or other venues. With fly-in Asians, it seems 50 percent of the time, they will say something along the lines of "I don't like Asian girls. Or I only like the mixed ones". With fly-in Whites, that figure might be 25 percent. That can't be true of the general population, because from what I understand, sex scene in Thailand is filled with Whites, Chinese, Japanese mongers. Meaning the men who fly-in to visit FKK may not necessarily reflect the tastes of men from their home country.[/QUOTE]Maybe. And maybe they have a different story to tell two months later once they have checked in to their pattaya Airbnb flat.

Non-white fly-in tourists may feel less of an obligation to make excuses for fucking their own cousins (as a moldavian man I met once framed it). While fly-in asian tourists may feel a stronger obligation to go interracial due to concerns rooted in social norms.

If you are a white in asia, if you meet certain people, you need to excuse yourself all the time by claiming you are there for the culture or the beatches, and not the bitches (LOL). But if you meet an asian monger, you might need to use another tactic, saying that you are there because your cousins in europe interest you less, and so you are there for the bitches, and not the beatches.

In the end, I guess 50% and even 25% are probably high numbers from the get go. Every country on earth probably have good pussy. Even the least interesting country in the world for girls can possibly surprise. But a more believable story to tell would be that you are looking for change due to your polygamous nature.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2196578]For sure there are men who seek high optics and high services. But you somewhat alluded to the problem. If there are only two WGs in the entire club that you are willing to consider, then you can't really shop around for a better deal. So that means if the WG stands her ground, you are forced to agree to her terms, because you have no other viable options.[/QUOTE]True, but this is when you just pick girl #8 in the club randomly while having girl #1 and #2 watch you while walking to the room. And then skip the club for 6 months afterwards.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2196578]For sure there are men who seek high optics and high services. But you somewhat alluded to the problem. If there are only two WGs in the entire club that you are willing to consider, then you can't really shop around for a better deal. So that means if the WG stands her ground, you are forced to agree to her terms, because you have no other viable options.[/QUOTE]It's a possible problem [B]if[/B] there were only 2 girls, or for guys who need to try lots and lots of new girls. For me, in large clubs with 75+ girls, the number of girls who meet the minimum optics bar is 6-10. At smaller clubs with 40+ girls, that number is usually 3-5. Factoring in girls that aren't working that day or are on holiday, that leaves me with plenty of options to not have to agree to a girl's terms, at least not on a regular basis.

The big issue I definitely see with high optic and service standards is the number of new girls to try. A friend tells me that he tried over 50 new girls last year in a little less than 100 club days. In comparison, I tried 12-15 new girls in under 50 visits. If I was an every weekend guy, there may not be enough girls. But as long as you restrict yourself to just Sharks and Oase, the 4-6 trip per year mongers or even a monthly monger, that should be enough women to choose from while not having to compromise service expectations.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2196417]Think again. As a reminder here is an excerpt from a post by Ultrahappy in the Oase thread:"I remember one time, when she hadn't been at Oase so long, I tried to explain to a group of Chinese guys I was chatting with that it probably made sense to avoid her due to her bad service. Then, one of the Chinese guys promptly ran off to the room with her. One of the Chinese guys explained to me, "You see, it doesn't matter how bad she is. We don't get to fuck girls that look like that in China. It's worth it just for the experience of being able to fuck her -- no matter how bad the service is. ".[/QUOTE]That is called a fetish. Fetishes get old pretty quickly after you have scratched the itch. They fall under the category of fantasy. Most guys like to try girls that are different than what they normally have access to.

[QUOTE=Takedown;2196636]But as long as you restrict yourself to just Sharks and Oase, the 4-6 trip per year mongers or even a monthly monger, that should be enough women to choose from while not having to compromise service expectations.[/QUOTE]As long as you [B]don’t[/B] restrict yourself to just Sharks and Oase.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2196578]For sure there are men who seek high optics and high services. But you somewhat alluded to the problem. If there are only two WGs in the entire club that you are willing to consider, then you can't really shop around for a better deal. So that means if the WG stands her ground, you are forced to agree to her terms, because you have no other viable options.[/QUOTE]Beauties are rare for my eyes, in whole FKK land, so when I find only 1, I'm happy and motivated to work hard with her, like I did on 2 last week ends at Sharks. She was perfect for me: Classy, sophisticated, charming, good manners, not hunting, but she doesn't want to keep on working in FKK. I would have been happy to have her for only girl for my weekly visits, trying to build her to become great for me, like I did at LR. I m used to make girls will to improve for me and repeat. Best for my mind, because closest to real.

Unfortunately, she was not motivated to work for cheap rate, but we had 3 1 h 100 rooms, her first and single rooms on a Sunday and Friday because she didn't want to work after. Rare woman type. 25 yo Romanian, brunette with wonderful blue eyes.

How is the outdoor facilities in Sharks? And do the girls also come to sunbath naked to the swimming pool, like they do in Oase? Swimming pool seems much smaller than the one in Oase.

Are there any "Dessous-Tag" in Sharks?

I will have a whole Thursday, but in Oase, Thursday is Dessous-Tag which I don't like.

My last times in Sharks were many years ago and it was always on winter time, so I don't recall the outdoor.

[QUOTE=Creature2;2196761]How is the outdoor facilities in Sharks? And do the girls also come to sunbath naked to the swimming pool, like they do in Oase? Swimming pool seems much smaller than the one in Oase.

Are there any "Dessous-Tag" in Sharks?

I will have a whole Thursday, but in Oase, Thursday is Dessous-Tag which I don't like.

My last times in Sharks were many years ago and it was always on winter time, so I don't recall the outdoor.[/QUOTE]Yes to your first question.

Yes Tuesday to second question.

Tuesday is Dessous-Tag at Sharks. And I don't like it either. BTW: I was at Sharks yesterday. And the line-up was pretty poor. So many fake boobs. Also no new stunners. Also only 3 (not so pretty) germans- which were either fat, old, or ugly (I don't like those blown up lips, yikes).

[QUOTE=Creature2;2196761]How is the outdoor facilities in Sharks? And do the girls also come to sunbath naked to the swimming pool, like they do in Oase? Swimming pool seems much smaller than the one in Oase.

Are there any "Dessous-Tag" in Sharks?

I will have a whole Thursday, but in Oase, Thursday is Dessous-Tag which I don't like.

My last times in Sharks were many years ago and it was always on winter time, so I don't recall the outdoor.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2195790]I believe that guys whose optic girls are not regarded as hot by the majority of blokes are lucky. Throughout my life I have viewed girls who are considered hot by the majority of men as, in fact, optics. However, I have reached the stage in my life where beauty alone does not do it for me. Also, my experience at FKKs is that the hotter the provider the worse the service generally. I much prefer to have a good performance by an average girl than a lukewarm one by a looker. Sessioning an optic means spending more money for poorer service, I'd leave such sessions for inexperienced mongers which I once was.[/QUOTE]I agree with what you say. The quality of the experience has little to do with the level of beauty. If a girl is very beautiful and very bored you are clearly not going to have a good time, and affecting an air of boredom unfortunately goes hand in hand with beauty. I look for a certain attitude that is almost impossible to describe in words but essentially is the same thing I looked for in my younger days in the disco, I could call it a vibe. If the vibe is encouraging then proceed. When looking for the vibe looks become almost irrelevant.

I plan to visit Sharks in the near future and I am wondering if there are some really great looking Milfs with outstanding service quality around. If not at Sharks where else can I find the ultimate service only a real woman can provide.

Any suggestions are highly appreciated.

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2196776].......................... BTW: I was at Sharks yesterday. And the line-up was pretty poor. So many fake boobs. Also no new stunners. Also only 3 (not so pretty) germans- which were either fat, old, or ugly (I don't like those blown up lips, yikes).[/QUOTE]Very few doable girls at FKKs these days. I have done about 30 girls so far for the past 5 weeks or so, about 4 of them hot; not one of them worth repeating. The good service girls not worth repeating because of looks and the good looking girls not worth repeating because of service.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2196794]Very few doable girls at FKKs these days. I have done about 30 girls so far for the past 5 weeks or so, about 4 of them hot; not one of them worth repeating. The good service girls not worth repeating because of looks and the good looking girls not worth repeating because of service.[/QUOTE]Your opinion, and I respect it as such. However, that is a harsh judgement.

On any given day, these big Hessen clubs have a minimum of 80 to 100 girls, and in a week well over 150 each. They are generally young, reasonably slim; facially pretty? The last one depends on individual tastes of course. As for service, almost all of them give BBBJ in a 50 and many if not all give some amount of kissing in 50 and most give in a 100. That is not a huge departure from recent times past.

Where else do we have such a venue? For sure nothing remotely like this at these prices exists (with a similar ambience and wellness and food and other facilities) in US / UK / Canada. Many mongers may not care for the look of girls in Brazil and Thailand and other sex destinations, so that is not an apt comparison.

If you can't find good sessions, it is because your standards have become impossibly high after years of mongering and you are forgetting that over time prices increase for everything in the world. (Not you you personally, but the general you monger). These clubs still offer the best combination of a large secure clean environment with a hundred naked young Euro ladies ready to fuck and suck for a lousy 50. If there are any other clubs which offer comparable stuff, mongers would be flocking there. But there are nt, and they are not.

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2196776]Tuesday is Dessous-Tag at Sharks. And I don't like it either. BTW: I was at Sharks yesterday. And the line-up was pretty poor. So many fake boobs. Also no new stunners. Also only 3 (not so pretty) germans- which were either fat, old, or ugly (I don't like those blown up lips, yikes).[/QUOTE]Thanks mate for the feedback.

It's hit and miss sometime, everywhere. You cannot rely even for a LU of 80 girls, sometime.

And my question? What was the approach policy in Sharks? Like the other Hessen big 4 ?

İf the LU is that so dead in Sharks, maybe I should reconsider Oase, at least for optics and also good BBQ food.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2196798]Your opinion, and I respect it as such. However, that is a harsh judgement.

On any given day, these big Hessen clubs have a minimum of 80 to 100 girls, and in a week well over 150 each. They are generally young, reasonably slim; facially pretty? The last one depends on individual tastes of course. As for service, almost all of them give BBBJ in a 50 and many if not all give some amount of kissing in 50 and most give in a 100. That is not a huge departure from recent times past.

Where else do we have such a venue? For sure nothing remotely like this at these prices exists (with a similar ambience and wellness and food and other facilities) in US / UK / Canada. Many mongers may not care for the look of girls in Brazil and Thailand and other sex destinations, so that is not an apt comparison.

If you can't find good sessions, it is because your standards have become impossibly high after years of mongering and you are forgetting that over time prices increase for everything in the world. (Not you you personally, but the general you monger). These clubs still offer the best combination of a large secure clean environment with a hundred naked young Euro ladies ready to fuck and suck for a lousy 50. If there are any other clubs which offer comparable stuff, mongers would be flocking there. But there are nt, and they are not.[/QUOTE]The problem is thus easily hinted at: they should increase the standard rate from 50 to 60. Then we could increase our 30 min expectation a notch at the same time, and management would have incentives to be tougher and smarter also in their ways.

But 100 is silly. I stop mongering on the day if that becomes a norm.

Approach varies. Some girls rove around like tigers and corner you. If you look elsewhere they will leave you alone. Most girls simply sit on the coaches and wait for you to make the first move.

The quantiy of the LU at Sharks was high. I am guess 80+ girls. BTW: I moved afterwards to Mainhattan which I found a much more classy club with a LU of about 30+ girls. Still a fair quality from the looks. Cannot judge the service thougjh.

[QUOTE=Creature2;2196801]Thanks mate for the feedback.

It's hit and miss sometime, everywhere. You cannot rely even for a LU of 80 girls, sometime.

And my question? What was the approach policy in Sharks? Like the other Hessen big 4 ?

İf the LU is that so dead in Sharks, maybe I should reconsider Oase, at least for optics and also good BBQ food.[/QUOTE]

Both are right imo.

A) I wouldn't dare to danger myself in Brazil. Don't speak portoguese. So all the places are too high risk for me. Spain might be an option.

B) Thailand? Also either dangerous or no need in a too skinny or too fatty thai. There sure are some stunners. Then they cost you triple the money in central europe.

And OF COURSE things gotten much worse to compared 3 yrs ago. No debate here. We had them all over the board.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2196798]Your opinion, and I respect it as such. However, that is a harsh judgement.

On any given day, these big Hessen clubs have a minimum of 80 to 100 girls, and in a week well over 150 each. They are generally young, reasonably slim; facially pretty? The last one depends on individual tastes of course. As for service, almost all of them give BBBJ in a 50 and many if not all give some amount of kissing in 50 and most give in a 100. That is not a huge departure from recent times past.

Where else do we have such a venue? For sure nothing remotely like this at these prices exists (with a similar ambience and wellness and food and other facilities) in US / UK / Canada. Many mongers may not care for the look of girls in Brazil and Thailand and other sex destinations, so that is not an apt comparison.

If you can't find good sessions, it is because your standards have become impossibly high after years of mongering and you are forgetting that over time prices increase for everything in the world. (Not you you personally, but the general you monger). These clubs still offer the best combination of a large secure clean environment with a hundred naked young Euro ladies ready to fuck and suck for a lousy 50. If there are any other clubs which offer comparable stuff, mongers would be flocking there. But there are nt, and they are not.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2196776]Tuesday is Dessous-Tag at Sharks. And I don't like it either. BTW: I was at Sharks yesterday. And the line-up was pretty poor. So many fake boobs. Also no new stunners. Also only 3 (not so pretty) germans- which were either fat, old, or ugly (I don't like those blown up lips, yikes).[/QUOTE]It depends of the level of expectations, mine are very high and even getting higher and higher, I just session less than 3 girls in any big club, and may be 1 in a smaller one, I am not willing to fuck each holes, I am able to control my libido and only great stunner have a chance with me.

[QUOTE=Takedown;2196636]The big issue I definitely see with high optic and service standards is the number of new girls to try. A friend tells me that he tried over 50 new girls last year in a little less than 100 club days. In comparison, I tried 12-15 new girls in under 50 visits. If I was an every weekend guy, there may not be enough girls. But as long as you restrict yourself to just Sharks and Oase, the 4-6 trip per year mongers or even a monthly monger, that should be enough women to choose from while not having to compromise service expectations.[/QUOTE]I think I had about 100 sessions last year and about 34-38 club days. Maybe sub 40 new girls roughly speaking. But if it hadn't been for our Austria trip, you could shave off 10 of those girls. And the 30 new girls for me in Germany were about 3 quarters of all the new optics I found there. Sure I repeated about 15 girls too, but I don't think there are more than 50 optics in the interesting German clubs at any time. (At least the most talked about top 10-15 clubs). For a monthly monger, or someone with over 50 club days in Germany a year, you'd really try much harder to get your repeat eve's going. Otherwise with such a strategy you could run out of good options.

What bugs me is just the drama that occurs if you skip your eve in one or two visits. Or if you go with her sworn enemy in the club. I have done that a few times and burnt some great girls on it. One even spat me in the face once. But I know she loves me. LOL!

Now I need to save me from some possible Oceans drama in my upcoming trip. You run it much safer when you are over twice as faithful as me within the various clubs. I wonder how it would turn out if we switched tactics. Then again, I would probably break the chain halfway anyway, LOL.

An exaggeration there. I think I only went with about 25 new girls in Germany last year that I hadn't done before (plus the 9 in aut / slo since one was a repeat I had met in Germany before). But my equation still stands fairly strong. New interesting girls that trickle in is hard to count however as many only stays for shorter periods in some clubs. But some clubs are better than others for finding new talent also. Oceans, Oase, Sharks, Artemis, Samya and maybe YY and Aca. And perhaps some up in hamburg. The bigger the clubs, the higher the chances of hitting new talent also, even if a few of these clubs have disappointed a bit at new talent lately. Such as Artemis etc.

For your Needs you should Really Hook Up with Fkklimousine!

[QUOTE=TimBok2;2196792]I plan to visit Sharks in the near future and I am wondering if there are some really great looking Milfs with outstanding service quality around. If not at Sharks where else can I find the ultimate service only a real woman can provide.

Any suggestions are highly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Blond Latvian Marina is amazing in bed, at Sharks. Sitting at the bar close to restaurant.

Blond German Pia, sometimes working at GT, is a real performer for sex.

I had a great time with Venus (tiny little Romania with hair nearly to her waist) who hangs out on the corner of the couch between the entrance and the stripper pole.

I did an hour with her and it was everything I'm looking for. Superior mic skills and wasn't afraid of some pounding. More than accommodating.

Best reference I can give is that I would put her in a steady rotation if I lived here.

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2196812]Both are right imo.

A) I wouldn't dare to danger myself in Brazil. Don't speak portoguese. So all the places are too high risk for me. Spain might be an option.

B) Thailand? Also either dangerous or no need in a too skinny or too fatty thai. There sure are some stunners. Then they cost you triple the money in central europe.

And OF COURSE things gotten much worse to compared 3 yrs ago. No debate here. We had them all over the board.[/QUOTE]Yes ofc. I was the one who argued multiple times here that implied price has increased de facto even if the stated price has stayed at 50 E because you are getting less for the same price.

That said, his argument below is that girls optics and quality is so bad now that it is difficult to find fuckable girls. I don't think that's accurate. Out of 150 girls if a guy can't find a few girls good enough to fuck, either he has impossibly high standards or has some other issue with his expectations.

The way to monger in Thailand is not at the brothels nor the gogo-bars.

You use facebook for scouting, or tinder, or some dating website perhaps on your first days. Then once you get there, you can hit them up at discos, on the street or even random random girls at shopping malls.

Far cheaper than the rates at the expensive places. Even the brothels at suk soi 24 in bkk at more expensive then.

1000-1500 bath gets you still very far.

The deal there is the cultural openness to prostitution among the girls. Only recent propaganda trying to set norms for the girls by telling them it is wrong, is working against it. That being local thai men loosing out on the pussy-war to tourists bringing larger piles of cash with them.

People are brainwashed all around the world in all places of life (the educational system being the worst). But who cares? Maybe someone has brains. Prostitutes does understand more in this regard than most others at least.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2196930]Blond Latvian Marina is amazing in bed, at Sharks. Sitting at the bar close to restaurant.

Blond German Pia, sometimes working at GT, is a real performer for sex.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the hint. Are there any more around and could you (or anyone in the forum) suggest a club with MILF highlights I'm the Frankfurt Area.

Again, thank you for your kind advice.

TB2.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2196948]Yes ofc. I was the one who argued multiple times here that implied price has increased de facto even if the stated price has stayed at 50 E because you are getting less for the same price.

That said, his argument below is that girls optics and quality is so bad now that it is difficult to find fuckable girls. I don't think that's accurate. Out of 150 girls if a guy can't find a few girls good enough to fuck, either he has impossibly high standards or has some other issue with his expectations.[/QUOTE]Since I started on end of 2012 , it was always difficult for my eyes to find pretty girls in brothels, I see more often pretty girls in Paris or Milano or Alte Adige. Many times I left GT or Sharks or Oase or even Globe, without finding a attractive girl, so no room for me. When I find even only 1 , I m just happy and she is just enough for me. Best for me would be to have only 1 classy elegant beauty with good manners, to visit weekly.

Good point is, despite new law, can still find good level in bed with woman types, and girls who really have will to please back, according to our behavior.

Just need to find beauties who lighten little spark in mind. Not so easy, 8 months to find a new one, but she didn't want to stay at Sharks, and was not made for FKK job, so I didn't advice her Globe, on this time.

[QUOTE=TimBok2;2196792]I plan to visit Sharks in the near future and I am wondering if there are some really great looking Milfs with outstanding service quality around. If not at Sharks where else can I find the ultimate service only a real woman can provide.

Any suggestions are highly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Anjelica / Angelika from Latvia and Lithuanian Karina.

Also, Viktoria from Russia; although I heard she's quit.

I'm headed to Sharks this week for some afternoon / evening fun and the weather forecast looks hot. Almost 90 F (30 see+) How miserable will it be with no A/C? Worth skipping Sharks and going somewhere else?

Yes, definitely skip Sharks on hot days. Sharks will be miserable at those temperatures. Absolutely miserable!

Don't take my word for it. Plenty of reports here that agree with that sentiment.

That being said, after the sun goes down, it will be safe again to drop into Sharks. But, if you're looking for a place you can spend both during the day and during the night, Sharks would be a definite pass -- in my opinion -- unless you just love the heat.

[QUOTE=Paco1013;2197738]I'm headed to Sharks this week for some afternoon / evening fun and the weather forecast looks hot. Almost 90 F (30 see+) How miserable will it be with no A/C? Worth skipping Sharks and going somewhere else?[/QUOTE]

Had been to Shark for the first time based on the reports here. I had been not satisfied, neither with the environment nor the service of the girls.

In this part of the country I only had been to Oase so far, some years ago, which I liked much better. When I get there around 22.00, appr. 60 plus girls had been present. The majority of them are Romanians.

More precise to say, 99% are from Romania. No really beautiful ladies, different appearances, some naked, some wearing a bikini. The majority of them 4-6, not even a single 8.

If I compare Sharks with Golden Time in Vienna, which I had visited more often, no chance for Sharks.

I tried 2 ladies, just to do something, because originally I wanted to leave after 10 minutes.

Both lousy service, rushed without any emotions. The only good thing, its cheap.

[QUOTE=George6969;2197834]Had been to Shark for the first time based on the reports here. I had been not satisfied, neither with the environment nor the service of the girls.

In this part of the country I only had been to Oase so far, some years ago, which I liked much better. When I get there around 22.00, appr. 60 plus girls had been present. The majority of them are Romanians.

More precise to say, 99% are from Romania. No really beautiful ladies, different appearances, some naked, some wearing a bikini. The majority of them 4-6, not even a single 8.

If I compare Sharks with Golden Time in Vienna, which I had visited more often, no chance for Sharks.

I tried 2 ladies, just to do something, because originally I wanted to leave after 10 minutes.

Both lousy service, rushed without any emotions. The only good thing, its cheap.[/QUOTE]Bad luck for you, for sure Sharks is not anymore on 2015 and beginning of 2016 level for beauties, but 2 week ends ago, I found what I call a really top class girl, I don't mean a top performer in bed. She would be a top class girl at Globe and far higher for class at Wellcum. At. Unfortunately, she didn't want to stay in FKK business, too cheap rate for her motivation, but had 3 1 hour, 100, rooms with her on 2 week ends.

I agree, except her, no top beauty at the moment, but some girls are sexy, like Elen, and some are higher in bed, like Viorica or Corina, than Wellcum average level in bed. Had 7 1 hour rooms on 2 week ends, not the faintest upselling, a top class girl, a good GFE performer, a lovely cute one, only Amanda. Hu was quite average.

At the moment, Samya is more impressive for looks, but lower level in bed, if you are not Turkish.

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2197785]Yes, definitely skip Sharks on hot days. Sharks will be miserable at those temperatures. Absolutely miserable!
That being said, after the sun goes down, it will be safe again to drop into Sharks. [/QUOTE]I was in Sharks in the evening 2 weeks ago. Absolutely impossible to have pleasant sex in the rooms. And the aircons in the unoccupied igloo rooms were kaputt. Even after the sun goes down, the rooms were still warm, and I was sweating profusely after just a little bit of activity.

Fortunately, I devoted 4 of my days to World with aircon comfort in almost all the rooms; the exception being in 2 rooms which were too cold!

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2197785]Yes, definitely skip Sharks on hot days. Sharks will be miserable at those temperatures. Absolutely miserable![/QUOTE]Yes. Yes this year, yes last year, yes the year before.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2197198]Since I started on end of 2012 , it was always difficult for my eyes to find pretty girls in brothels, I see more often pretty girls in Paris or Milano or Alte Adige. Many times I left GT or Sharks or Oase or even Globe, without finding a attractive girl, so no room for me. When I find even only 1 , I m just happy and she is just enough for me. Best for me would be to have only 1 classy elegant beauty with good manners, to visit weekly.

Good point is, despite new law, can still find good level in bed with woman types, and girls who really have will to please back, according to our behavior.

Just need to find beauties who lighten little spark in mind. Not so easy, 8 months to find a new one, but she didn't want to stay at Sharks, and was not made for FKK job, so I didn't advice her Globe, on this time.[/QUOTE]Fully agree with you, for me it is also very difficult to find beauties, a lot of so so girls, if you look at them under the sun without drinking any alcohol before, most of them are not nice, not fresh, for me no need to spend time or money for those one. Some days in Shark there is not one girl with whom I will go to the room.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2197895]I was in Sharks in the evening 2 weeks ago. Absolutely impossible to have pleasant sex in the rooms. And the aircons in the unoccupied igloo rooms were kaputt. Even after the sun goes down, the rooms were still warm, and I was sweating profusely after just a little bit of activity.

Fortunately, I devoted 4 of my days to World with aircon comfort in almost all the rooms; the exception being in 2 rooms which were too cold![/QUOTE]I was in Sharks on Friday and it was intolerably hot. Picked a young Romanian for my first session, we headed to one of the aircon rooms near the fish tank with the dark blue light, I was still sweating in there, 50 euro session with BBBJ, DATY, CFS, she said time up at 20 minutes, getting used to that now, did not nut. Followed that up with another Romanian who said DATY required a 100 euro, 1 hour session. I told her I'd settle for a 50 euro half hour session with only BBBJ and CFS. She delivered surprisingly good service in the room and seemed to genuinely enjoy the sex which I find most Romanians do not. (When a provider rubs her clit during coitus you know she's enjoying it). She was actually very much my type in looks (pretty face, athletic body not too thin and not short). I actually would consider repeating with her for a 100 euro 1 hour session.

In Winter, weather can be cold, even we don't have anymore very cold Winters in Western Europe. In Summer, weather can be warm, with sometimes more than 30 Celsius degrees. That's just normal nature. More difficult for girls to work than for iceman who climb Alpe the Huez or Zoncolan under more than 30 degrees, really making heart working very hard, under such heat, so really not a problem to fuck girls, under more than 30 degrees.

I enjoy wood chalets in Sharks garden. I hate and refuse to go in small caves upstairs, close to jacuzzi, can t enjoy good sex in such low level places. Same for dark rooms where was kino, low level rooms.

Room light is part of pleasure for eyes and mind, when I find a beauty. I was surprised to find such top class look, on Katalina Globe level, on Friday 15 June, Saturday 16, Sunday 17 and Friday 22. A real rare pleasure. Her single room on Sunday and Friday 22.

Was more or less pushed by a friend who is living in the US to spend this sunny day in Shark. LU was quite numerous but quality was not there, very very few young fresh and sexy girls, even 20 new girls but most of them veteran of the P6 scene. A lot of mongers nothing specific to notice compare to my previous reports. After 5 hours and good sauna sessions, at 7 PM probably 50 or more police men enter strongly the club, blocking everyone to leave. We mongers were asked to go outside around the pool, they switched on the lights and asked the girls to stay around the bar. Things were moving on very slowly and after 2 hours luckily I found the excuse of a hospital visit to my mother to be able to exit after a ID card control. At 9 PM still a lot of mongers outside on the pool waiting to exit the club.

This is my first time going to Sharks. I got into Frankfurt 4th of July morning and my flight out of Germany was the next day so I figured I would stay at Sharks until they close at 4 am and then go back to the airport. Looking at Google maps for ways to get there from the airport, it seems the only way was taking the train to Frankfurt AM Main Station then taking a train from the to Darmstadt Hbf train station. That was estimated to take about 1 hour and 40 minutes. Reading the forum about 10 pages in, someone mentioned the Air Bus that goes from both Term 1 and 2 straight to the Darmstadt Hbf station and only takes about 30 minutes and costs 8. 70 Euros. I was sitting in Frankfurt airport trying to figure out how to get there when I came across this great info so thank you for that whoever posted it. I did not see this option on Google Maps. There really should be a sticky for each FKK on how to get to these places.

I took the Air Bus and it took about 30 minutes. From there I walked because I wanted to stretch a bit from sitting on a long flight. I would not really recommend this especially if you are carrying a bag like I was. I believe there are luggage lockers at Frankfurt Airport so you can use them. The walk was something like 1. 5 miles I think.

So I get to sharks around 1:30 pm I think. The breakfast that was on offer was mostly gone and was some scrambled eggs, cold cuts, and some small hot dogs or something. Didn't look that great. Later on they had a BBQ at 5 pm going most of the night. I got to say it was the best BBQ I've seen at an FKK because it included grilled steak and chicken as well as hamburgers (not good), sausage and hot dogs. The BBQ at Mainhattan if I remember didn't have steak.

I took a look around and decided to take a nap upstairs on the lounge chairs for a few hours. After the nap I start looking for girls. I think there was a good LU with over 60 girls which I actually counted when the police had them all corralled upstairs. So it was around 6:30 PM or so when the police came in. They separated the men outside and in the dining area and the girls inside. They went through everyone's ID with a magnifying glass literally, looking for fakes. I understand looking for girl's fake ID to make sure they are over 18 or whatever, but what is the point of checking the men's ID? You are not required to show ID to get into Sharks so why would you even bring a fake ID if you were going to Sharks? A girl I talked to who said she has worked at Sharks for about 2 yyears says she has only seen one other police raid besides this one, so I just had some rotten luck on the 4th of July.

So this whole thing took about 3 hours. The management gave away some free champagne, wine and beer right before the police finished checking out the girls' IDs.

I was planning on doing a leisurely session around 7 pm and another one later on in the night maybe towards midnight. Now my plan was thrown off since I didn't get to session the first time until after 10 PM. There is a lesson for me to be learned here. I became picky with all the choice available waiting to see "what else" may show up. In reality if I was in a place in the US with only one of the girls from this FKK I would take her immediately. Here I am with over 60 or more girls and I am procrastinating. Also, after the raid it seems like about 20% of the girls I saw earlier were gone.

My first pick was the little spinner Abby. Romanian, very petite, 147 cm and 37 Kilos and 33 years old. Very tight little bod. I think this is the girl someone mentioned about her over use of baby wipes because she did use a few before and after. Also gave me CBJ which I don't mind.

I was happy with my session with her.

After the session and eating a bunch of steak and chicken BBQ I took another nap to recharge and started looking for another potential girl. Problem is that it was now like 2 AM and the pickings were getting much slimmer. The 4 or 5 girls I had on my short list from earlier were gone. I was thinking I might just not session a second time, but then I chose Larissa at around 3 AM. She is Romanian, blonde, curvier and 26 years old. She gave me BBBBJ without asking. Had a good time with her.

I know this is crazy but I had time to kill so I walked back from Sharks at 4 AM back to the Darmstadt Hbf Station. The Air Bus back to the airport starts running at 4:15 AM and comes every 30 minutes after that I believe.

So here is my opinion on Sharks vs. World, Oase, Palace, Mainhattan. The last few years that I have come in for a one day stay I have been going to Mianhattan. Not because it is so great, but more the convenience of taking the tram there from the Frankfurt AM Main station. I haven't been to those other places in a few years so I can't speak on the current quality of the LU. From what I remember, it was not much different from Mainhattan or the LU I saw at Sharks a few hours ago. In other words the girls seem to be the same mix of 80% or so Romanian and some other countries mixed in. The only distinguishing thing in all these places is maybe better / worse facilities, food, how close it is to you. If you are just interested in quality and quantity of the girls, I would just go to whichever FKK is more convenient to you. The jury is still out on whether I will return to Sharks on my way back to the US next month or will I will just go to Mainhatttan. That is my initial impression and opinion of Sharks and of course YMMV.

It was indeed around 6. 30 pm and I had already completed one unsatisfying session and was conducting an interview for a second with a good prospect around the bar area when I observed two men dressed in black enter the club with one bearing a video camera; I thought to myself are they shooting a movie in the club? Then in no time at all after that was a swarm of uniformed police and then it hit me. A raid! My first such experience in my 45 years of hobbying. I had missed such experiences in the Caribbean where if entrapped, a night in jail followed by a fine would have ensued. Fortunately no such punishment on this occasion. The cops just checked the ID of everyone present. I was surprised by the number of guys who carry their actual passport with them. I carry a laminated copy of the photo ID page of my passport with me and that was sufficient for them.

Wherever I hobby I very rarely chat with other mongers as I spend all my time looking for girls, chatting with them or otherwise spending quality time with them when I'm not just drinking or relaxing by myself. Well during the raid I chatted with a number of fellow hobbyists as the polizei had separated the blokes from the dames. All men were to stay in the garden area while the women were enclosed in the inner sanctum. I actually chatted with more gents during the period of the raid than in all of my previous years of mongering. Germans, Asians and fellow Americans. Don't know whether any of them are fellow ISGers as the topic never arose; however, mongering generally was discussed. Many were very experienced like myself but none mongered in Latin America or the Caribbean. It is surprising to me how many hobbyists fear the lack of safety in those destinations. I decided to leave about 3 hours after the raid began but according to the previous report was at the same time the raid ended. A police told me it was to be 4 hours. Missed the free champagne.

To answer the question. The Police check male guests i.d. for age (must be 18 +), and men who are known to them. Like everywhere, Police like to go fishing. Unlike in some countries Police in raids are normally very polite.

[QUOTE=Simpleminded;2198642] ... Also, after the raid it seems like about 20% of the girls I saw earlier were gone.[/QUOTE]This is, of course, the most ominous and depressing aspect.

I missed the famous raid with over 100 cops in Artemis by just 24 hrs. Lucky me. But I had two raids in GT (golden time) - my advice if a raid happens:

Try simply to leave the place. -- unless indeed you want to socialize a bit more with fellow mongers!! It will be devastatingly shitty in terms of sex for several hours. - most likely the whole day. In my 2nd raid I simply left for the next club YY (yinn yang) which was just 20 min further out to the west. And all was terrific there.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2198716]It was indeed around 6. 30 pm and I had already completed one unsatisfying session and was conducting an interview for a second with a good prospect around the bar area when I observed two men dressed in black enter the club with one bearing a video camera; I thought to myself are they shooting a movie in the club? Then in no time at all after that was a swarm of uniformed police and then it hit me. A raid! My first such experience in my 45 years of hobbying. I had missed such experiences in the Caribbean where if entrapped, a night in jail followed by a fine would have ensued. Fortunately no such punishment on this occasion. The cops just checked the ID of everyone present. I was surprised by the number of guys who carry their actual passport with them. I carry a laminated copy of the photo ID page of my passport with me and that was sufficient for them.

Wherever I hobby I very rarely chat with other mongers as I spend all my time looking for girls, chatting with them or otherwise spending quality time with them when I'm not just drinking or relaxing by myself. Well during the raid I chatted with a number of fellow hobbyists as the polizei had separated the blokes from the dames. All men were to stay in the garden area while the women were enclosed in the inner sanctum. I actually chatted with more gents during the period of the raid than in all of my previous years of mongering. Germans, Asians and fellow Americans. Don't know whether any of them are fellow ISGers as the topic never arose; however, mongering generally was discussed. Many were very experienced like myself but none mongered in Latin America or the Caribbean. It is surprising to me how many hobbyists fear the lack of safety in those destinations. I decided to leave about 3 hours after the raid began but according to the previous report was at the same time the raid ended. A police told me it was to be 4 hours. Missed the free champagne.[/QUOTE]

Do these raids really affect much though?

Last time I was at YY there was also a raid. The second raid there on my third visit there. But it didn't affect anything. People didn't seem to bother, and it seemed like a normal thing. Both times, a big German Schaeffer was walking around sniffing on everything too. So I suppose that is one drug free club at least. But I talked to one girl there who had worked in two NRW clubs before, and she said the girls at YY preferred it this way. They had gotten sick of the drugs in Germany, so it was one of the main reasons to work at yy.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2198716]It was indeed around 6. 30 pm and I had already completed one unsatisfying session and was conducting an interview for a second with a good prospect around the bar area when I observed two men dressed in black enter the club with one bearing a video camera; I thought to myself are they shooting a movie in the club? Then in no time at all after that was a swarm of uniformed police and then it hit me. A raid! My first such experience in my 45 years of hobbying. I had missed such experiences in the Caribbean where if entrapped, a night in jail followed by a fine would have ensued. Fortunately no such punishment on this occasion. The cops just checked the ID of everyone present. I was surprised by the number of guys who carry their actual passport with them. I carry a laminated copy of the photo ID page of my passport with me and that was sufficient for them.

Wherever I hobby I very rarely chat with other mongers as I spend all my time looking for girls, chatting with them or otherwise spending quality time with them when I'm not just drinking or relaxing by myself. Well during the raid I chatted with a number of fellow hobbyists as the polizei had separated the blokes from the dames. All men were to stay in the garden area while the women were enclosed in the inner sanctum. I actually chatted with more gents during the period of the raid than in all of my previous years of mongering. Germans, Asians and fellow Americans..[/QUOTE]Will California driver license work in this case in stead of passport?

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2198761]I missed the famous raid with over 100 cops in Artemis by just 24 hrs. Lucky me. But I had two raids in GT (golden time) - my advice if a raid happens:

Try simply to leave the place. -- unless indeed you want to socialize a bit more with fellow mongers!! It will be devastatingly shitty in terms of sex for several hours. - most likely the whole day. In my 2nd raid I simply left for the next club YY (yinn yang) which was just 20 min further out to the west. And all was terrific there.[/QUOTE]Good advice! Always have a plan be.

Was at both Sharks and Oase (for the first time) a couple of weeks back.

I found Sharks to be better than Oase.

Oase (Tuesday):

-Oase is smaller.

-There were not that many people. Still someone the receptionist, when I came in, handed out locker keys which seemed to be in the same row, so it got crowded near my locker.

-There aren't that many showers, so again too crowded. The shower room seemed to be as big as Paradise Saarbruken.

-The lockers were very narrow (again like Paradise).

-Oase has male employees, bartender, cleaners, which is a a bit of a boner killer. I like the Sharks only visible female employees model better.

-Girls approach more in Oase. All the girls who approached me while I was sitting initiated under towel action. One girl after another approached me. This is a plus I guess.

-Too many porn images. Sharks is more relaxed.

-At Oase all the girls I talked to seemed to require 100 e 1 HR session for DATY.

-There is a relaxation area which is a plus.

Had a couple of decent sessions (don't remember the names).

Sharks (Wednesday):

-Lot more people than Oase. But the dudes were mostly watching football during the day.

-Food was much better than Oase. Good enough food that one might consider it decent in a restaurant buffet.

-The outdoor area seemed better. Actual couches.

-After the matches ended the men went after the rooms, so all the rooms in the night were occupied.

Sessions:

Selina: Young, black hair. Decent, honest provider.

Sabrine 30's? French woman. It started off fine, but she said time's up at the 20 min mark after which it went downhill. I objected and she got pissy that for 50 e you cannot expect much, I should have some respect for her; left a bad taste in my mouth.

Kika (attempted session). Black hair, glasses. All the rooms were booked, and as we had completed our round of the rooms, we met one dude and she prompty ignored me and was all over this dude while I was still next to her. I left them. Was feeling shitty and too much of a walking ATM machine. Was thinking of calling it quits (before Kika, another girl had rejected me). And then I saw a girl talking to another one, and this girl smiled in their conversation. Could it be?. That smile. I immediately went to her and asked her name. Madalina! Yes, how did I miss her. Small changes in her look. I sessioned with her once before a few months back, I wanted to repeat with her but I had not seen her mentioned here since then. Total sweetheart. 90 minutes in room with her which made the day worthwhile. She did guilt me a bit about not recognizing her (apparently she had recognized me). There was another girl who recognized me, from 6 months ago which was impressive.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2198820]Do these raids really affect much though?

Last time I was at YY there was also a raid. The second raid there on my third visit there. But it didn't affect anything. People didn't seem to bother, and it seemed like a normal thing. Both times, a big German Schaeffer was walking around sniffing on everything too. So I suppose that is one drug free club at least. But I talked to one girl there who had worked in two NRW clubs before, and she said the girls at YY preferred it this way. They had gotten sick of the drugs in Germany, so it was one of the main reasons to work at yy.[/QUOTE]Of course it will affect the business, some married guys don't want to face those kind of situation, many Turkish guys also don't appreciate to be controlled. For me 0 impact, yesterday a girl whatsapp me that around 15 girls were found not having the right papers to work in the club, they already left the club and she also wrote that the management.

Will face some legal issues about it. For those who plan to visit in the coming day, may be the LU will be not that good, but it was also the case before the raid.

[QUOTE=DaWong949;2198872]Will California driver license work in this case in stead of passport?[/QUOTE]Why don't you just show them your student ID.

Easy first impressions there.

After awhile you might realise that Oase does indeed have the better garden. It has sports opportunities and a much better pool to be laying around. Grilling at Oase is also more cozy than the A4 sharks garden. Plus the Sharks people are terrible at grilling, and the grill food is so bad you almost want to avoid days they are grilling instead of eating indoors, which is better at sharks, but the opposite at Oase.

Male personnel at Oase is also more honest than the introvert sometimes rude female sharks personnel. But I do miss some female bartenders, like 2-3 different girls who worked the downstairs bar at Artemis, or the polish girl at Palace.

The rest I agree on tho. Upsells at Oase.

[QUOTE=ResidentOfMars;2198941]Was at both Sharks and Oase (for the first time) a couple of weeks back.

I found Sharks to be better than Oase.

Oase (Tuesday):

-Oase is smaller.

-There were not that many people. Still someone the receptionist, when I came in, handed out locker keys which seemed to be in the same row, so it got crowded near my locker.

-There aren't that many showers, so again too crowded. The shower room seemed to be as big as Paradise Saarbruken.

-The lockers were very narrow (again like Paradise).

-Oase has male employees, bartender, cleaners, which is a a bit of a boner killer. I like the Sharks only visible female employees model better..[/QUOTE]On my June visits, I saw a better casting at Sharks than very average at Oase on a Friday.

On Friday 15 June, I discovered a top class Romanian 25 yo woman who is in my top 4 for class and charm, with legendary Katalina. Ro / Kate at Globe, Madi. Ro World until beginning of May 2015 and another Romanian I had 20 hours in room with, on some months. All Romanians, on top for class and charm, a German for sexual level, my best ever, just amazing, a sweet model beauty but couldn't compete for class and charm. Even nobody told about her, but she didn't want to keep on working in FKK, we repeated on Saturday and Sunday. When I left on Sunday to drive to Paris, I knew she would be my only girl in FKK land. What a welcome on next Friday, we repeated again. My only friend in this business who knows how it s difficult for me to find Eve who makes me dream, told me: Advice her for Globe like Megan, or even Aphrodisia bar for 280 for 30 mn, but she was not made for this bad job. I was happy to enjoy such a woman who tried to please me with her potential, great welcome and smile. Behavior is the most enjoyable for me. Wish her the best.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2199006]Easy first impressions there.

After awhile you might realise that Oase does indeed have the better garden. It has sports opportunities and a much better pool to be laying around. Grilling at Oase is also more cozy than the A4 sharks garden. Plus the Sharks people are terrible at grilling, and the grill food is so bad you almost want to avoid days they are grilling instead of eating indoors, which is better at sharks, but the opposite at Oase.

Male personnel at Oase is also more honest than the introvert sometimes rude female sharks personnel. But I do miss some female bartenders, like 2-3 different girls who worked the downstairs bar at Artemis, or the polish girl at Palace.

The rest I agree on tho. Upsells at Oase.[/QUOTE]Both at Oase and at Sharks, the food was outdoors and grilled on my visit days. Sharks grilled food way WAY better than Oase grilled food. Oase grilled was dry. And no hot dishes to accompany the meat (potatoe fries don't count). At Sharks, grilled meat was moist, there was also a hot mixed vegetable dish. There was an Asian guy doing the grilling at Sharks (he seemed to be there just for that), maybe he is new from when you were there (Asians do everything better).

The Sharks site says the outdoor area has been remodeled. Have you been there recently?

I have not encountered rude staff at Sharks (or Oase).

I think Sharks in June / July is great. It was bright outside till like 10:30 pm. Excellent outdoor area.

In winter, Oase might come out ahead with its relax area next to the garden. Sharks REALLY needs a relaxation area without the loud music.

Maybe calling the Sharks staff rude was a bit of an exaggeration. But at least they seem way too stressed out. They need to learn how to smile and chill. One woman at sharks does have a laugh sometimes though. I believe she worked the floor once long ago.

[QUOTE=ResidentOfMars;2199249]There was an Asian guy doing the grilling at Sharks (he seemed to be there just for that), maybe he is new from when you were there (Asians do everything better).[/QUOTE]Maybe that Asian guy has taken a crash course in grilling this past winter. Because unless there are two, it was the same guy behind the grilling last summer. I haven't had grill food at sharks this summer though. Next week I try.

I have an opportunity to finally go to Frankfurt & visit Sharks for the first time as opposed to my usual haunt at Artemis.

However I would be visiting Sharks on a Sunday (2/9/18) which I'm wondering if it's worthwhile?

The question is whether Sunday's is usually a dead day regards quality / quantity regarding LU?

If so I would rather leave it & book another time whenever the opportunity arises.

I appreciate every Sunday can vary but before I book air fares I just wanted to gauge opinion.

Thanks.

The airconditioning in the igloo rooms was not working. In the future I shall simply do all I can to avoid some FKKs on hot summer days. This Saturday at Skarks was such a day. World or Sixsens would be doable on such days regardless of line-ups.

Two sexy girls serving at the bar inside. Could they be "rescued" girls? The reason I'm wondering is a girl told me Jamaican Winnie was now working as a staff member. Back in January I had been dismayed to find one of my favourites at Colosseum working as a laundry maid. "Rescueing" girls who fall short of the new requirements, for them to work as non-sex staff would be a clever way of drying up supply while not causing any hardship to human beings with a vagina.

[QUOTE=XXL;2199280]The airconditioning in the igloo rooms was not working. In the future I shall simply do all I can to avoid some FKKs on hot summer days. This Saturday at Skarks was such a day. World or Sixsens would be doable on such days regardless of line-ups.

Two sexy girls serving at the bar inside. Could they be "rescued" girls? The reason I'm wondering is a girl told me Jamaican Winnie was now working as a staff member. Back in January I had been dismayed to find one of my favourites at Colosseum working as a laundry maid. "Rescueing" girls who fall short of the new requirements, for them to work as non-sex staff would be a clever way of drying up supply while not causing any hardship to human beings with a vagina.[/QUOTE]What do you mean by rescued girls?

[QUOTE=ResidentOfMars;2199286]What do you mean by rescued girls?[/QUOTE]They're offered a civil job in exchanged for stopping prostitution. "Rescued" is a code world in the mainstream media for "being taken out of the sex market". See "rescue industry".

[QUOTE=XXL;2199289]They're offered a civil job in exchanged for stopping prostitution. "Rescued" is a code world in the mainstream media and the rescue industry for "being taken out of the sex market".[/QUOTE]I didn't know about this program. Any person, who is a prostitute, is guaranteed a civil job if they stop prostituting?

What are the requirements you alluded to in your post?

[QUOTE=ResidentOfMars;2199291]I didn't know about this program. Any person, who is a prostitute, is guaranteed a civil job if they stop prostituting?

What are the requirements you alluded to in your post?[/QUOTE]The new requirements as per the new German prostitution law in Germany (lots of discussions here about that here lately).

[QUOTE=XXL;2199289]They're offered a civil job in exchanged for stopping prostitution. "Rescued" is a code world in the mainstream media for "being taken out of the sex market". See "rescue industry".[/QUOTE]So if somebody wants a job in Germany, a simple way is to work as a prostitute for a few months first? Or at least register.

[QUOTE=XXL;2199289]They're offered a civil job in exchanged for stopping prostitution. "Rescued" is a code world in the mainstream media for "being taken out of the sex market". See "rescue industry".[/QUOTE]It's not like a girl quitting her working girl life is automatically offered a normal job, that is not how it works. WGs getting a job at the bar, cleaning or reception is the normal career for many of them, plenty of examples for that. Alex from the reception was a WG at Oase. Same for Olga (great body then, fucked get a few times). Same for Silke from the bar, she was working in Dietzenbach many years ago.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2199333]So if somebody wants a job in Germany, a simple way is to work as a prostitute for a few months first? Or at least register.[/QUOTE]If she is doing a waitress job, not much prior experience is needed. Certainly not as a prostitute previously.

If she applies to be a machine learning expert, she will not get the job even if she worked for ten years previously as the #1 Prostitute at Sharks. Unless she has the requisite education and technical knowledge.

[QUOTE=RogueNation;2199338]It's not like a girl quitting her working girl life is automatically offered a normal job, that is not how it works. WGs getting a job at the bar, cleaning or reception is the normal career for many of them, plenty of examples for that. Alex from the reception was a WG at Oase. Same for Olga (great body then, fucked get a few times). Same for Silke from the bar, she was working in Dietzenbach many years ago.[/QUOTE]Is Olga the blonde?

I usually get the RMV ticket to go from Frankfurt HBF to Darmstadt. Anyone know if the are bus rides are included in this ticket?

Also, if I get a day pass RMV ticket, can it be used on the Airliner?

[QUOTE=MyTwoInches;2199518]If she is doing a waitress job, not much prior experience is needed. Certainly not as a prostitute previously.

If she applies to be a machine learning expert, she will not get the job even if she worked for ten years previously as the #1 Prostitute at Sharks. Unless she has the requisite education and technical knowledge.[/QUOTE]But many people are still having a hard time getting a job in many countries. Including Germany. And they would be competing for the waitress jobs with locals, or new immigrants etc. So for a new immigrant from Syria, one way into the jobs market (as a waitress), can be to work as a prostitute for a while first?

[QUOTE=Pistons;2199583]But many people are still having a hard time getting a job in many countries. Including Germany. And they would be competing for the waitress jobs with locals, or new immigrants etc. So for a new immigrant from Syria, one way into the jobs market (as a waitress), can be to work as a prostitute for a while first?[/QUOTE]To be a prostitute is not a job, most of the time when you are one time a prostitute you never go back to a normal life. Also with the new law nobody knows how confidential the datas will remain and if a employer will not get the infos that a girl worked as a prostitute. On top of that never forget thet more than 70 percent of all the prostitutes in Germany have a boyfriend or are married or are pimped, this also need to be solved before getting a job.

[QUOTE=ResidentOfMars;2199576]I usually get the RMV ticket to go from Frankfurt HBF to Darmstadt. Anyone know if the are bus rides are included in this ticket?

Also, if I get a day pass RMV ticket, can it be used on the Airliner?[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.rmv.de/c/de/fahrkarten/die-richtige-fahrkarte/alle-fahrkarten-im-ueberblick/[/URL]

Here it states that with RMV passes the entire RMV network, and all means of transport, are included.

If you're referring to this service, then there's an additional charge:

[URL]https://www.heagmobibus.de/de/airliner[/URL]

I was at Sharks on a Thursday afternoon recently and there was no group on the couches around the stripper pole like in September 2017? Was I there too early? That group had some of the best looking girls from my viewpoint. I was less impressed with Sharks this time as compared to my first trip. My room choices were not great. I guess I was off my game. Also I was coming from Switzerland where I thought the optics was slightly higher.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2199743]I was at Sharks on a Thursday afternoon recently and there was no group on the couches around the stripper pole like in September 2017? Was I there too early? That group had some of the best looking girls from my viewpoint. I was less impressed with Sharks this time as compared to my first trip. My room choices were not great. I guess I was off my game. Also I was coming from Switzerland where I thought the optics was slightly higher.[/QUOTE]Many have been on hiatus from the industry since April. Girls like Evita and Mila have not outright said that they quit but remain unsure about their future. I know quite a few girls who have been off for 2-3 months and seem very happy vacationing all over Europe. Either they saved quite a bit of money working to fund their expensive tastes for a long time, or more likely most will run out of runway funding soon and will be back by the fall.

[QUOTE=RogueNation;2199338]It's not like a girl quitting her working girl life is automatically offered a normal job, that is not how it works. WGs getting a job at the bar, cleaning or reception is the normal career for many of them, plenty of examples for that. Alex from the reception was a WG at Oase. Same for Olga (great body then, fucked get a few times). Same for Silke from the bar, she was working in Dietzenbach many years ago.[/QUOTE]Also Moira who worked at the bar.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2199259]Maybe calling the Sharks staff rude was a bit of an exaggeration. But at least they seem way too stressed out. They need to learn how to smile and chill. One woman at sharks does have a laugh sometimes though. I believe she worked the floor once long ago.[/QUOTE]Are you from the USA? Because "tired" and "stressed" and "learn how to smile and chill" is what I thought of all Germans, then I worked with them for a while and realized they just different and that just how they are.

[QUOTE=Samplerr;2199679][URL]https://www.rmv.de/c/de/fahrkarten/die-richtige-fahrkarte/alle-fahrkarten-im-ueberblick/[/URL]

Here it states that with RMV passes the entire RMV network, and all means of transport, are included.

If you're referring to this service, then there's an additional charge:

[URL]https://www.heagmobibus.de/de/airliner[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks. Checked that the "Tageskarte" does not allow travel to Airfport. Bah.

If I buy a Einzelfahrkarte at the Frankfurt HBF, can I go to Darmstadt HBF and from there take the are bus on that same ticket? Or is every ride a seperate ticket.

Similarly, can I buy a Einzelfahrkarte at the FRA airport, go to Frankfurt HBF and from there to Darmstadt HBF on that same ticket?

[QUOTE=ResidentOfMars;2199824]can I buy a Einzelfahrkarte at the FRA airport, go to Frankfurt HBF and from there to Darmstadt HBF on that same ticket?[/QUOTE]Yes, you can. And on your way back, you can buy ticket to Frankfurt for the same price from the 'R' bus driver.

Quick question guys. I have a Wednesday and Thursday in De. Which night might be better for Sharks?

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2199858]Yes, you can. And on your way back, you can buy ticket to Frankfurt for the same price from the 'R' bus driver.[/QUOTE]So technically how many trains / buses can you take with the same ticket? Is it a matter of time? Like only in a certain time frame from the moment you buy it?

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2200149]Quick question guys. I have a Wednesday and Thursday in De. Which night might be better for Sharks?[/QUOTE]Wednesdays are crowded with good line up. Thursdays are relaxer, but still enough girls to choose.

[QUOTE=Mangga;2200150]So technically how many trains / buses can you take with the same ticket? Is it a matter of time? Like only in a certain time frame from the moment you buy it?[/QUOTE]Firstly, the journey must be in the direction between the start point and the end destination. And secondly, there is a time limit, which if I remember correctly is 3 hours. Furthermore, sometimes (not always) a train conductor would appear to clip and time-stamp your ticket.

Anyone see German Sandra here recently?

[QUOTE=Mechelen;2200156]Wednesdays are crowded with good line up. Thursdays are relaxer, but still enough girls to choose.[/QUOTE]Wednesdays are 50 euro entrance fee so many many men.

I've got a totally unexpected opportunity to visit Sharks for the first time next month on the 8th. Unfortunately I've found out Tuesdays are lingerie days but is it likely a few ladies might be naked?

After viewing this forum it appears from Frankfurt Main Airport taking the Airliner bus is easy, cheap & quicker.

However from Terminal Two how easy is it to find where the bus starts from & can I pay the bus driver directly? My German language skills are poor.

Lastly my plan is to leave the bus at at Darmstadt Main Railway Station then pick up a taxi to Sharks, does this sound a reasonable plan?

Sorry for all the questions. I've been to Artemis several times so it will be interesting to compare the Clubs. Reading this forum I think Artemis has a greater choice of nationalities where Sharks appears to be 80% full of Romanians?

The food can't be any worse than what they serve at Artemis, LOL!

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Akibono;2200180]Anyone see German Sandra here recently?[/QUOTE]She started at Sharks on January 2015, after escorting a bit. FKK years are like dog years, for girls.

To Pistons, even fast and sometimes big money, sometimes more than 20000 per month for some busy superstars, but women should not have to do this bad job, if they have had a positive childhood, or not been born in a poor country, or not met a pimp, or not having a child with father who ran away. Not easy money, they will never forget, their body will never forget. Some will have problem to have a baby later. They just learn how to make money fast. Is this money really for their future life?

[QUOTE=Pistons;2199333]So if somebody wants a job in Germany, a simple way is to work as a prostitute for a few months first? Or at least register.[/QUOTE]Exactly. Go to a brothel. Suck some fat old tourist's dicks and let them fuck your ass. Then turn to the government and tell them to get you a decent job. That's the secret behind Germany's economic strength.

Went with Alexia, hammer session! But, I have doubts under 1hr, she'd provide GFE(this is more and more common at Sharks). And also I tried her friend Adelina, and that was a disaster. It's a shame because I was pretty attracted to her, particularly her face(pretty face). I like taking Evelina reguarly, like her looks, and quite nice in the room, and very satifactory with a hot gal. Couple others that chases after me and give in to sessions weren't there.

[QUOTE=RogueNation;2200305]Exactly. Go to a brothel. Suck some fat old tourist's dicks and let them fuck your ass. Then turn to the government and tell them to get you a decent job. That's the secret behind Germany's economic strength.[/QUOTE]I believe that you are completely wrong, no girl is willing to tell that she worked as a prostitute. If you are jealous about Germany it is so easy to do better.

Same question. What about Monday and Tuesday? Thanks.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2200149]Quick question guys. I have a Wednesday and Thursday in De. Which night might be better for Sharks?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Canary;2200271]I've got a totally unexpected opportunity to visit Sharks for the first time next month on the 8th. Unfortunately I've found out Tuesdays are lingerie days but is it likely a few ladies might be naked?

After viewing this forum it appears from Frankfurt Main Airport taking the Airliner bus is easy, cheap & quicker.

However from Terminal Two how easy is it to find where the bus starts from & can I pay the bus driver directly? My German language skills are poor.

Lastly my plan is to leave the bus at at Darmstadt Main Railway Station then pick up a taxi to Sharks, does this sound a reasonable plan?

Sorry for all the questions. I've been to Artemis several times so it will be interesting to compare the Clubs. Reading this forum I think Artemis has a greater choice of nationalities where Sharks appears to be 80% full of Romanians?

The food can't be any worse than what they serve at Artemis, LOL!

Thanks.[/QUOTE]From T2,you transfer yourself to T1 with skytrain. Go to ground level where you will see buses. Go outside and cross the middle road, you will be at bus depot (where all bus stop and go). Bus airliner is on number13/14. It is the last stop on you right if your back is facing the terminal. Have fun and report back here.

[QUOTE=RogueNation;2200305]Exactly. Go to a brothel. Suck some fat old tourist's dicks and let them fuck your ass. Then turn to the government and tell them to get you a decent job. That's the secret behind Germany's economic strength.[/QUOTE]Some of Pistons' comments are so detached from reality, and you replied with the perfect repartee to one of his more bizarre claims here!

[QUOTE=Tinny2000;2200407]Same question. What about Monday and Tuesday? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Mondays are slow but still enough girls available.

Tuesday is dessousday, this means girls in lingerie.

[QUOTE=DaWong949;2200429]From T2,you transfer yourself to T1 with skytrain. Go to ground level where you will see buses. Go outside and cross the middle road, you will be at bus depot (where all bus stop and go). Bus airliner is on number13/14. It is the last stop on you right if your back is facing the terminal. Have fun and report back here.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that, it was very helpful as I was under the impression the Airliner bus could be picked up from both terminals 1 & 2. You have saved me some valuable time, thanks.

Do I pay the driver or is it a ticket machine?

Of course I will write a report as I've done when going to Artemis. I just hope some girls will be naked, I don't like the idea of lingerie day but I have no choice on the day I visit so Tuesday it is.

Please let me know if Anya, Lexi or Linda still working in sharks or any other clubs.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Canary;2200529]Thanks for that, it was very helpful as I was under the impression the Airliner bus could be picked up from both terminals 1 & 2. You have saved me some valuable time, thanks.

Do I pay the driver or is it a ticket machine?

Of course I will write a report as I've done when going to Artemis. I just hope some girls will be naked, I don't like the idea of lingerie day but I have no choice on the day I visit so Tuesday it is.[/QUOTE]The airliner bus also stop at Terminal 2. No point to go from T2 to T1, catch a bus, and then the bus will be back to T2 few minutes later. At T2, the bus stops at hall E exit 8 (per this link: [URL]https://www.frankfurt-airport.com/en/travel/transfer.detail.suffix.html/service/bus-line/bus-line-airliner-darmstadt.html[/URL]).

See that same link PDF for the latest bus schedule. You can see this PDF from the RMV site but looks like the times are off now by a few minutes. But it should have all the info you need: [URL]https://www.rmv.de/c/fileadmin/documents/PDFs/_RMV_DE/Fahrkarten/Die_richtige_Fahrkarte/Fahrkarten_im_Ueberblick/Lokale_Fahrkartenangebote/Darmstadt_AirLiner-Direktbus_Faltblatt.pdf[/URL].

You can pay the driver as you board. Most drivers speak some English to me. But the cost is 9 E something. So, just hand the driver 10 E or 20 E bill and wait for the change. Make sure to buy the ticket as I have seen inspector couple times on the bus. They start checking you right after the bus leaves T2.

[QUOTE=Canary;2200529]Thanks for that, it was very helpful as I was under the impression the Airliner bus could be picked up from both terminals 1 & 2. You have saved me some valuable time, thanks.

Do I pay the driver or is it a ticket machine?

Of course I will write a report as I've done when going to Artemis. I just hope some girls will be naked, I don't like the idea of lingerie day but I have no choice on the day I visit so Tuesday it is.[/QUOTE]I do know Airliner bus also pick up from T2,but I somehow always end up in T1 doing something (store luggage, food etc). Just pay the driver. Have fun.

[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2200658]The airliner bus also stop at Terminal 2. No point to go from T2 to T1, catch a bus, and then the bus will be back to T2 few minutes later. At T2, the bus stops at hall E exit 8 (per this link: [URL]https://www.frankfurt-airport.com/en/travel/transfer.detail.suffix.html/service/bus-line/bus-line-airliner-darmstadt.html[/URL]).

See that same link PDF for the latest bus schedule. You can see this PDF from the RMV site but looks like the times are off now by a few minutes. But it should have all the info you need: [URL]https://www.rmv.de/c/fileadmin/documents/PDFs/_RMV_DE/Fahrkarten/Die_richtige_Fahrkarte/Fahrkarten_im_Ueberblick/Lokale_Fahrkartenangebote/Darmstadt_AirLiner-Direktbus_Faltblatt.pdf[/URL].

You can pay the driver as you board. Most drivers speak some English to me. But the cost is 9 E something. So, just hand the driver 10 E or 20 E bill and wait for the change. Make sure to buy the ticket as I have seen inspector couple times on the bus. They start checking you right after the bus leaves T2.[/QUOTE]That all makes sense, I appreciate all the replies, it appears it's a relatively simple journey on the Airliner to Darmstadt.

I'm looking forward to comparing Sharks with my usual haunt Artemis. Just a shame I'm going on a Lingerie day (Tuesday) as I prefer the ladies being fully naked.

Thanks again & I will write up a report on the trip. Amazingly I could be there on 31st Aug /1st Sept too if all goes well!

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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2200274]She started at Sharks on January 2015, after escorting a bit. FKK years are like dog years, for girls.

To Pistons, even fast and sometimes big money, sometimes more than 20000 per month for some busy superstars, but women should not have to do this bad job, if they have had a positive childhood, or not been born in a poor country, or not met a pimp, or not having a child with father who ran away. Not easy money, they will never forget, their body will never forget. Some will have problem to have a baby later. They just learn how to make money fast. Is this money really for their future life?[/QUOTE]You are being far to simplistic. All jobs have risks and rewards. There are plenty of girls who go on to a good life. Unfortunately, the fast money of the job, attracts the short time thinkers. Those same people will have problems wherever they go. If you have the bad judgement of getting pregnant and having lover boy leave, that bad judgement will spill over into any job you take. It is not the job, but the person and her skills that make the difference. Don't blame the game, blame the player.

[QUOTE=Akibono;2201078]You are being far to simplistic. All jobs have risks and rewards. There are plenty of girls who go on to a good life. Unfortunately, the fast money of the job, attracts the short time thinkers. Those same people will have problems wherever they go. If you have the bad judgement of getting pregnant and having lover boy leave, that bad judgement will spill over into any job you take. It is not the job, but the person and her skills that make the difference. Don't blame the game, blame the player.[/QUOTE]I don't think little girls in Romania or Moldovia or Bulgaria, wish to become a prostitute to make fast money. If they had good parents who protect them and help them to get a good education, and I thank my parents for this, they may have a different life. Highest education level Romanian girls don t work in brothels. Most of brothels WGs really can t compete for Nobel award, some are pregnant at 20 yo with father who run away.

Being fucked for money is not a normal job, not the best for own image. Only good point is fast money.

Maybe Sandra thought she has been enough fucked. I remember marks on her arms and legs, certainly not from falling from a horse. I think if she had a normal childhood, we would have never known her at Sharks or even as escort.

[QUOTE=RichCandyMan;2200579]Please let me know if Anya, Lexi or Linda still working in sharks or any other clubs.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]I didn't see Albanian Anja on my last visits in June. 5 days on 2 week ends.

I don't know who are the 2 others.

No Sandra. De seen, only Mandy on a Friday.

A Hungarian team with 4 girls, with Lora.

[QUOTE=RogueNation;2200305]Exactly. Go to a brothel. Suck some fat old tourist's dicks and let them fuck your ass. Then turn to the government and tell them to get you a decent job. That's the secret behind Germany's economic strength.[/QUOTE]Wise words indeed!

Jnpr30 and Donald Trump should take note. It might even save the world one day.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2201382]Wise words indeed!

Jnpr30 and Donald Trump should take note. It might even save the world one day.[/QUOTE]Seriously, Pistons?! RN just made fun of your prior comment in the most ruthlessly sarcastic manner! Do you not understand English or does the concept of sarcasm escape you?

You keep railing against some straw man feminists (without having a clue of what a feminist even means) every second post, and I am Donald Trump now!

(That last sentence is sarcastic, in case you don't get sarcasm. It is not an admission that I am Donald Trump now).

Hey guys,

How is the aircondition situation in the rooms at Sharks now?

Any better? I see a lot of people complaining about it earlier in the thread.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2201471]Seriously, Pistons?! RN just made fun of your prior comment in the most ruthlessly sarcastic manner! Do you not understand English or does the concept of sarcasm escape you?

You keep railing against some straw man feminists (without having a clue of what a feminist even means) every second post, and I am Donald Trump now!

(That last sentence is sarcastic, in case you don't get sarcasm. It is not an admission that I am Donald Trump now).[/QUOTE]Nobody said you were Donald Trump. But RN came up with a great idea for him to save the faltering US economy and at the same time keep American mongers at home instead of travelling atound the world without a sense of humor. And where irony is a foreign word in the dictionary.

[QUOTE=NorseLord;2201630]Hey guys,

How is the aircondition situation in the rooms at Sharks now?

Any better? I see a lot of people complaining about it earlier in the thread.[/QUOTE]This would interest me too as I'm visiting Sharks for the first time on 7th Aug, 1st Sept & if I like the place 2nd Sept too.

Being a bigger place than say Artemis should help with people who don't like all the smoking but with poor air con in this weather it would be an interesting situ?. Unless you enjoy sweaty sex!

Presumably most ladies wouldn't object to using an outside arena at night if it's too hot?

[QUOTE=NorseLord;2201630]Hey guys,

How is the aircondition situation in the rooms at Sharks now?

Any better? I see a lot of people complaining about it earlier in the thread.[/QUOTE]No change again this year. It starts to cool around 6-7 pm. It's not all that hot outside with the breeze but without ventilation, the inside remains stuffy hot. Only 3 the 6 caves had a working A/C unit.

Monday in Sharks.

Yesterday went to Sharks, kind of empty not many girls. Too. Had session with Marsha OK session.

Bar services not at par long waiting for drinks.

Like more clubs in Bremen small but friendly.

I've been in Frankfurt close to 2 months now and have done more 100 euro 1 hour sessions than I would have liked but my best sessions so far have been with girls who agreed to 50 euro half hour sessions with CFS, BBBJ and DATY; their attitudes and service have been better.

Do the girls at sharks allow COF, or is it mostly just CIM and COB?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2202265]I've been in Frankfurt close to 2 months now and have done more 100 euro 1 hour sessions than I would have liked but my best sessions so far have been with girls who agreed to 50 euro half hour sessions with CFS, BBBJ and DATY; their attitudes and service have been better.[/QUOTE]I was there a few weeks ago, and I paid 100 Euros almost every time. I think it's fair since I insist on specific services, such as BBBJ, DATY, kissing, and multiple positions. The attitude also tends to be better since they are making more money.

On this trip, I tried also Globe in Zurich, and I found the eye candy and service to be much better there, but at much higher prices. I paid 95 CHF fior entry and 140 CHF for a 30 min session.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2202408]I was there a few weeks ago, and I paid 100 Euros almost every time.[/QUOTE]100 Euro for 30 minutes or 1 hour?

[QUOTE=DerAuslander;2202412]100 Euro for 30 minutes or 1 hour?[/QUOTE]For 30 min.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2202415]For 30 min.[/QUOTE]100 e for 30 minutes? That's funny: I was at Sharks "a few weeks ago" also, I think I made 8 visits in 10 days: I had lots of 100 e sessions with excellent service, but each session I got 60 minutes, not 30 minutes. Are you sure we were at the same club?

[QUOTE=Ortos;2202417]100 e for 30 minutes? That's funny: I was at Sharks "a few weeks ago" also, I think I made 8 visits in 10 days: I had lots of 100 e sessions with excellent service, but each session I got 60 minutes, not 30 minutes. Are you sure we were at the same club?[/QUOTE]I was not implying in my message that prices have gone up. I usually visit the FKKs once a year, and I typically select girls that are really eye candy, in my view. I consider myself very picky. Since I like eye candy, I noticed that at 50 Euros for 30 min, I don't get much in terms of service, but when I offer 100 Euros I get much better service. That is my argument.

I pay 40 € for 30 min and I can have very good service in Aca, that's my argument. If you're paying 100 € for 30 minutes without any extras, you're getting screwed.

Shark's line up on Sunday was dismal for top optics. The hottest girls were honestly the bleached, silicone blondes. There was a lack of natural hot girls.

I tried California blonde Mickey with nice natural boobs for half an hour and she provided an acceptable half hour room with no kissing. Not passionate in the half hour room but also not devoid of responsiveness.

Melissa is a nice brand new addition. With fire red hair and a month in the business, she provided a great one hour session with responsive fucking, a wet pussy, and a hand-pumping mouth-vacuum BJ. Warning: she spent 2 weeks at Oase before coming to Sharks and learned the upsell tier system fast. She attempted the 50 euro upsell for kissing but can be negotiated down with a hour offer. She did take a young Taiwanese newbie for 200 euro and he tipped her on top of that! Saw her take a couple of guys for 15 minute rooms but they did not seem upset at the lockers. Hot natural body, awesome one hour room once negotiated down.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2202408]I was there a few weeks ago, and I paid 100 Euros almost every time. I think it's fair since I insist on specific services, such as BBBJ, DATY, kissing, and multiple positions. The attitude also tends to be better since they are making more money.

On this trip, I tried also Globe in Zurich, and I found the eye candy and service to be much better there, but at much higher prices. I paid 95 CHF fior entry and 140 CHF for a 30 min session.[/QUOTE]For sure, Globe is higher level for looks and level in bed, but no upselling experienced at Sharks, 1 h 100 € for enjoyable GFE time is my standard there. I even found what I call a really top class girl on mid June, we had 3 1 hour 100 € rooms on 2 week ends, but she didn't want to be fucked with everything for 50 or even 100, so she didn't want to stay.

I was surprised to see a quite slow business on mid June week end, when casting was really not bad. Even sexy Elen was not busy, sitting at the bar.

If you had offered 100 Euros for 1 hour, in most cases, you would have received just as good treatment from the girls.

Sure, for 100 Euros for half an hour, they really loved you. But, in general, the girls view 100 Euros for an hour as a much better deal than 50 Euros for half an hour.

Heck, if you want to save a little cash next time, you could just split the baby and try offering 120 for an hour and I assure that almost every girl will treat just as special (but no CIM of course) as you were being treated for 100/30. But, even that is not necessary in my opinion, even with most high optic girls.

Up to you of course.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2202419]I was not implying in my message that prices have gone up. I usually visit the FKKs once a year, and I typically select girls that are really eye candy, in my view. I consider myself very picky. Since I like eye candy, I noticed that at 50 Euros for 30 min, I don't get much in terms of service, but when I offer 100 Euros I get much better service. That is my argument.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2202485]If you had offered 100 Euros for 1 hour, in most cases, you would have received just as good treatment from the girls.

Sure, for 100 Euros for half an hour, they really loved you. But, in general, the girls view 100 Euros for an hour as a much better deal than 50 Euros for half an hour.

Heck, if you want to save a little cash next time, you could just split the baby and try offering 120 for an hour and I assure that almost every girl will treat just as special (but no CIM of course) as you were being treated for 100/30. But, even that is not necessary in my opinion, even with most high optic girls.

Up to you of course.[/QUOTE]The girls never give you the full time you pay for. If you pay for half hour you get 20 minutes and if you pay for 1 hour you get 40 minutes max. So Lefeu paying 100 euros for half hour is not bad, in fact it may be quite sensible as the girl, elated for being paid 100 euros for a half hour, will give him superb sex for a full 30 minutes.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2202583]The girls never give you the full time you pay for. If you pay for half hour you get 20 minutes and if you pay for 1 hour you get 40 minutes max. So Lefeu paying 100 euros for half hour is not bad, in fact it may be quite sensible as the girl, elated for being paid 100 euros for a half hour, will give him superb sex for a full 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]Your experience, but not mine, maybe because I'm a slow guy in bed, taking all my time to kiss, to caress, to taste for how long need to drink her juice, because I know then she doesn't behave the same, she wants to please back and won't rush, but ask most of time if I don't want to stay longer, even when she is tired from sporty sex, but asking if I m not interested for a second round? If I really enjoyed her, usually I prefer to repeat about 3 hours later, if she is exceptional, then I stay to repeat with her.

At Sharks, my standard room is a very full 1 hour, which is a bit short for my games, for 100, but not for 45 mn. At GT, 1 very full hour, which is quite short for all my foreplay, when I find a real GFE, then 1 hour won't be enough. Even GT busy superstar Kate, she knows what I like and works on my rhythm for sex, becoming more and more woman behavior for me, for 1 very full hour rooms, since 3 years on next September, for 100 and we never speak about money.

When LR was GFE land in Germany, I had 1 h10 rooms for 100 , and 1 h45 rooms for 150 without extras asked.

I m sure our behavior pay with girls, like money, in FKK land, even at Globe where 15 mn more are 70 CHF, offered by busy superstar Katalina, or Megan.

I hear this comment a lot, but as I've commented before, I never understood it.

I always stay in the room until I am ready to leave. The girls do not decide when my time is up. I decide this.

Neither the girl nor I know when I am going to leave the room until the moment I say, "Ok, let's go!"

So, a girl cannot tell me my time is up because she has no idea whether I will be in the room for 1 hour or 5 hours. If a girl were to tell me that my time is up at 45 minutes, then she could potentially lose out on an 4 extra hours!

Frankly, all this talk about the girls cutting off time early makes absolutely no sense to me. How is the girl supposed to know how long I intend to stay in the room when I don't even know this?

And even if a girl were to decide that time was theoretically up at the 45 minute mark, how is she going to get paid if I don't get up and follow her like a puppy dog to the lockers? Is she going to stand at the lockers while I hang out in the room? I've never had a girl try this on me.

Every single girl I go with stays in the room with me until I tell them that the time is up. In fact, they cannot do otherwise, because they have no idea how long I plan to stay in the room.

If guys are having their time cut-off so-to-speak, then in my opinion, those guys are doing something wrong.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2202583]The girls never give you the full time you pay for. If you pay for half hour you get 20 minutes and if you pay for 1 hour you get 40 minutes max. So Lefeu paying 100 euros for half hour is not bad, in fact it may be quite sensible as the girl, elated for being paid 100 euros for a half hour, will give him superb sex for a full 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2202583]The girls never give you the full time you pay for. If you pay for half hour you get 20 minutes and if you pay for 1 hour you get 40 minutes max. So Lefeu paying 100 euros for half hour is not bad, [/QUOTE]I think most people can attest that when you pay for 1 hour you more often than not get a full 1 hour. No need to exaggerate.

[QUOTE=Takedown;2202638]I think most people can attest that when you pay for 1 hour you more often than not get a full 1 hour. No need to exaggerate.[/QUOTE]This too has always been my experience!

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2202632]I always stay in the room until I am ready to leave. The girls do not decide when my time is up. I decide this.[/QUOTE]My experience also. You know what you are about and have got game.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2202605]At Sharks, my standard room is a very full 1 hour, which is a bit short for my games, for 100, but not for 45 mn. At GT, 1 very full hour, which is quite short for all my foreplay, when I find a real GFE, then 1 hour won't be enough. Even GT busy superstar Kate, she knows what I like and works on my rhythm for sex, becoming more and more woman behavior for me, for 1 very full hour rooms, since 3 years on next September, for 100 and we never speak about money.[/QUOTE]Well done Sir! You also know what you are about and have game.

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2202485]If you had offered 100 Euros for 1 hour, in most cases, you would have received just as good treatment from the girls.[/QUOTE]Agree completely!

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2202632]I hear this comment a lot, but as I've commented before, I never understood it.

I always stay in the room until I am ready to leave. The girls do not decide when my time is up. I decide this.

Neither the girl nor I know when I am going to leave the room until the moment I say, "Ok, let's go!"

So, a girl cannot tell me my time is up because she has no idea whether I will be in the room for 1 hour or 5 hours. If a girl were to tell me that my time is up at 45 minutes, then she could potentially lose out on an 4 extra hours!

Frankly, all this talk about the girls cutting off time early makes absolutely no sense to me. How is the girl supposed to know how long I intend to stay in the room when I don't even know this?

And even if a girl were to decide that time was theoretically up at the 45 minute mark, how is she going to get paid if I don't get up and follow her like a puppy dog to the lockers? Is she going to stand at the lockers while I hang out in the room? I've never had a girl try this on me.

Every single girl I go with stays in the room with me until I tell them that the time is up. In fact, they cannot do otherwise, because they have no idea how long I plan to stay in the room.

If guys are having their time cut-off so-to-speak, then in my opinion, those guys are doing something wrong.[/QUOTE]I am fully on line with you, I exactly behave the same.

Having visited Artemis on a number of occasions I've finally managed to book a first visit to Sharks in three weeks time.

Other than the usual standard rules (I appreciate not everyone does this) of agreeing the activities & price beforehand, not telling the girls it's your first time etc etc, is there any specific tips for Sharks anyone could offer me as a first time visitor please?

I'm going next month on a Tuesday then later in the month on a Saturday (plus the following Sunday if's worth it).

Thanks.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2202427]I pay 40 for 30 min and I can have very good service in Aca, that's my argument. If you're paying 100 for 30 minutes without any extras, you're getting screwed.[/QUOTE]You can have 40 mn with Deria. Tu, my first Turkish girl, exceptional sensual, for 40 € at Aca on November 2015, if there was a ATM, I would have kept her until 5 am, and 2 hours at Globe for 560 with Isabella I like since February 2014 at Sharks, then World, then Globe.

Ex Alice at Aca is now Beatriz at Globe, from 40 to 140.

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2202632]If a girl were to tell me that my time is up at 45 minutes, then she could potentially lose out on an 4 extra hours!

How is the girl supposed to know how long I intend to stay in the room when I don't even know this?
[/QUOTE]I agree that getting only 40 minutes on a 60 minute room is wrong.

If a customer orgasms, I believe most WGs would expect that the customer will expect the customer to leave at the next 30 minute increment, especially if the customer is not much for small talk. So if a customer orgasms at the 35-40 minutes mark, the WG would probably expect that the customer will want to leave around the 50-60 minute mark. The WG would should ask the customer if he wants to go for round two or want a massage before "packing up" herself.

For customers that don't orgasm, then the WG really can't know. She probably assumes that most customers will want to make the best effort to orgasm, taking as much time as they need, or retrying multiple times. Maybe fucking three hours with minimal rest break. Of fuck 40 minutes, rest 20 minutes, fuck 40 minutes, rest 20 minutes. Some customers like to just talk, drink, smoke or do drugs together.

Some WGs, typically the younger ones, know long rooms will give them more money with less pussy pounding, but they really don't like being bored by customers who they might find creepy, old, annoying. The cultural or generational gap does not make things easier. So they might prematurely abort even on long rooms, setting a cap on the room. The older WGs who are older and outside of their peak-earning years know long-room whales may not come around as often as years past. They may also have learned "patience".

I am really flummoxed by all these people who are claiming that the girls are ending their sessions early because (1) this never happens to me and (2) I am quite puzzled as to how this is occurring in the first place since this can only happen if the man decides ahead to announce his intention regarding room time -- which naturally leads me to the following questions: (1) why would a guy communicate ahead of time a time cap to his girl? And (2) how does the guy know ahead of time that he isn't going to have such a good time that he isn't going to want to stay longer than his supposed pre-determined time cap?

Me, I never know ahead of time how I long I want to stay in a room. Thank goodness FKK isn't a prepay system -- otherwise, I'd have to keep going out to my locker every half hour!

In my experience, the girls I go with don't ever suggest leaving the room because (1) they want to stay in the room and keep earning money (or so I assume) and (2) they can't suggest when to leave because they have no idea how long we will stay in the room.

And yes, I don't always use the full time up to the next half hour increment, but to be clear, this is because I choose to leave early, not because the girl has called time or imposed some sort of time cap.

[QUOTE=Canary;2202741]Having visited Artemis on a number of occasions I've finally managed to book a first visit to Sharks in three weeks time.

Other than the usual standard rules (I appreciate not everyone does this) of agreeing the activities & price beforehand, not telling the girls it's your first time etc etc, is there any specific tips for Sharks anyone could offer me as a first time visitor please?

I'm going next month on a Tuesday then later in the month on a Saturday (plus the following Sunday if's worth it).

Thanks.[/QUOTE]If you managed Artemis, then sharks is much easier to manage. Same rules apply only less up sell by the girls and better service normally. Also depends in your spending habits.

[QUOTE=Canary;2202741]Having visited Artemis on a number of occasions I've finally managed to book a first visit to Sharks in three weeks time.

Other than the usual standard rules (I appreciate not everyone does this) of agreeing the activities & price beforehand, not telling the girls it's your first time etc etc, is there any specific tips for Sharks anyone could offer me as a first time visitor please?

I'm going next month on a Tuesday then later in the month on a Saturday (plus the following Sunday if's worth it).

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Pretty much in the same way you were in Artemis. Take your time, talk to them before you go to room. Tuesday is slow day so you will have advantage there. Saturday can be busy day though.

Have fun.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2202861]If you managed Artemis, then sharks is much easier to manage. Same rules apply only less up sell by the girls and better service normally. Also depends in your spending habits.[/QUOTE]Never been because too far on a week end, from Paris, but I thought Artemis was a good level, big club, with good girls like Geraldine. Hu. My lovely friend Liz. De is ex Artemis. Upselling land?

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2202850]I am really flummoxed by all these people who are claiming that the girls are ending their sessions early because (1) this never happens to me and (2) I am quite puzzled as to how this is occurring in the first place since this can only happen if the man decides ahead to announce his intention regarding room time -- which naturally leads me to the following questions: (1) why would a guy communicate ahead of time a time cap to his girl? And (2) how does the guy know ahead of time that he isn't going to have such a good time that he isn't going to want to stay longer than his supposed pre-determined time cap?

Me, I never know ahead of time how I long I want to stay in a room. Thank goodness FKK isn't a prepay system -- otherwise, I'd have to keep going out to my locker every half hour!

In my experience, the girls I go with don't ever suggest leaving the room because (1) they want to stay in the room and keep earning money (or so I assume) and (2) they can't suggest when to leave because they have no idea how long we will stay in the room.

And yes, I don't always use the full time up to the next half hour increment, but to be clear, this is because I choose to leave early, not because the girl has called time or imposed some sort of time cap.[/QUOTE]Maybe it's all because of the different behave off race and type of people. In general Germans for example don't need to stay in the room and talk after their finished. For what I understand they are very clinical. They do their thing and when they finish they leave and don't fill the rest of the time talking. So there might be more things for the girls that are very common with some type of men. For the girls it's also a guess like this. What type of man is this, what does he want? If a men don't express him self the women does not know what he wants and takes the most easy way and goes out of the room as soon as the man is finished. But girls also know that their are men who need this so. Communicate to the girl that you want to fill the rest of the session.

And she might stay thinking if she stay's to the end and treath's her client well she might have a regular client.

So it might be the girl you pick but it might as well be your own fault because of lack of communication. This might be the key why some guy's have totally general experience then other guys. Communication or the lack of it or some might just attract the wrong types, the women who go for the quick bucks.

[QUOTE=Kempie;2203053]Maybe it's all because of the different behave off race and type of people. In general Germans for example don't need to stay in the room and talk after their finished. For what I understand they are very clinical. They do their thing and when they finish they leave and don't fill the rest of the time talking. So there might be more things for the girls that are very common with some type of men. For the girls it's also a guess like this. What type of man is this, what does he want? If a men don't express him self the women does not know what he wants and takes the most easy way and goes out of the room as soon as the man is finished. But girls also know that their are men who need this so. Communicate to the girl that you want to fill the rest of the session.

And she might stay thinking if she stay's to the end and treath's her client well she might have a regular client.

So it might be the girl you pick but it might as well be your own fault because of lack of communication. This might be the key why some guy's have totally general experience then other guys. Communication or the lack of it or some might just attract the wrong types, the women who go for the quick bucks.[/QUOTE]I think that you are wrong most of the germanvguys will stay the full time in the room contrary to many guys from UK, Ireland, Russia, US etc. Who will leave after the things are done.

So there I was relaxing on the couch, drink in hand, soaking in the ambiance and enjoying the parade of nubile bods. Then I spied her blonde, enticing enough face, not skinny but not fat, just the way I like them. She had accosted me in the past but I didn't bite for some reason, I thought to myself. I looked at her and from the distance she pointed her index finger to me and then to herself repeating the gesture a few times as these girls are wont to do inquiring whether we could have relations. Usually I ignore them when they do this (just come up to me and chat, I won't bite you!) however, I had been in the club for 2 hours and had not yet had a session so I nodded to her. She came and plopped down beside me. In the introductory remarks I asked where she was from and she refused to respond and it dawned on me that I had spoken to her on other occasions and she did the same thing which probably had a role in my previously declining her. Her pre-room chit chat was not very encouraging. However, a room was overdue and when she asked what she could do for me I enlightened her as to all my thrills. She nodded in acceptance and I responded half hour, fifty euros she agreed and we were off to the zimmer.

It was very hot and I had in mind a room with a window to which we headed; on the way I spied a fan in another room, grabbed it and plugged it into my room of choice. So with breeze from within and without the logistics were agreeable. As soon as we were naked on the bed she shoved her tongue into my mouth and a smile came to my mind; this portends a good session. I was wrong, it was a great session! Her BBBJ was unrelenting. I rewarded her with 69 during which she deep throated me at which point I closed my eyes and thought I had been transported to Brazil.

She partook of CFS like a real trooper, no fake moans but genuine enjoyment in numerous positions which she enthusiastically agreed to and even initiated. I thought to myself that I would extend it to a 1 hour session but with her at the corner edge of the bed lying on her side and me with legs spread apart on the floor pumping her while holding up her head with my right hand and DFKing her at the same time my soldiers came rampaging on towards the breach, dear friends. I knew it was within the half hour mark, indeed it was about 28 minutes.

Ten years ago I would have tried for a second round but I knew I could not manage that especially after battles in recent days. So off to the lockers we went. This girl definitely deserved more than 50. I remember having in my wallet in addition to my 50 E notes, 30 euros. At the locker I realized I had used a 20 with a fifty to pay the entrance so in fact I had 15 euros. I thought whether to tip her 50 euros or 15. Without much thought I tipped her 15 euro which she heartily accepted.

On my way to the showers I thought that the 15 e tip was manifestly unfair as I had done much more and had greater enjoyment in that half hour than all the 100 euro sessions I had done since May. I am here for another few weeks and I really think I should somehow rectify that with this lovely bombshell.

Turgid. Thank you for your report which cheers me up by confirming that it is still worth looking for the good girls. I am so soft I would probably have repeated several times with her as a thank you to her LOL.

[QUOTE=Kempie;2203053]So it might be the girl you pick but it might as well be your own fault because of lack of communication. [/QUOTE]You seem to misunderstand my post. I was not complaining about girls cutting my sessions short. You might want to reread the posts below.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2203031]Never been because too far on a week end, from Paris, but I thought Artemis was a good level, big club, with good girls like Geraldine. Hu. My lovely friend Liz. De is ex Artemis. Upselling land?[/QUOTE]One can say a lot about Artemis, but it is not upselling land. Unless it just started being so this year that is.

It is not so much that the girls know how much time you want to spend in the room, but that they want to process the guys fast. First, to 60% of the girls (perhaps even higher) 30 minutes no longer means 30 but more like 20 or 23. So, by the 15th to 20th minute, they either would like to finish you or start making noises that you are coming close to the end of time and would you like to extend? I wear a watch and make a show of looking at my watch when I enter the room but that doesn't seem to matter. They cheat blatantly and claim only 5 minutes are left when I know I still have 10 to 12 on the clock. If you happen to extend to an hour, they do the same charade from the 40th to 45th minute.

Yes, you can stay back in the room till the last minute or take her to the front desk but what can you do when majority of the girls pull this slimy stunt? The mood goes down fast. Just have to live with it, as another sign of service degradation in the clubs.

I usually stay till at least last 4,5 minutes but I also know some of the girls are not so happy. Tough luck. But some other guys may be less willing to put up with the whiny girls and would rather leave the room.

Roxana asked me "you always stay till the last minute? Girls don't like it you know?! 30 minutes is really 20 min, may be 22". And that is after I was with her many times. Refreshingly honest, Roxana is 😎😎

I think you don't run into these issues UH because you are well known and perhaps you select new girls (to you) very carefully and perhaps those girls know what to expect with you from their friends. I know you say you are less known in Sharks but even there perhaps you are much more of a regular than most guys. But almost guaranteed that the same girls who give you good service and stay till you give OK are hustling the touristy types and cheating them on time.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2203422]It is not so much that the girls know how much time you want to spend in the room, but that they want to process the guys fast. First, to 60% of the girls (perhaps even higher) 30 minutes no longer means 30 but more like 20 or 23. So, by the 15th to 20th minute, they either would like to finish you or start making noises that you are coming close to the end of time and would you like to extend? I wear a watch and make a show of looking at my watch when I enter the room but that doesn't seem to matter. They cheat blatantly and claim only 5 minutes are left when I know I still have 10 to 12 on the clock. If you happen to extend to an hour, they do the same charade from the 40th to 45th minute.
[/QUOTE]I don't talk ever talk about extending to the next half. If they were to ask, I would just make clear that I pay for how long we stay in the room. If we stay half an hour, I pay half an hour. If we stay an hour, I pay an hour. If we stay 5 hours, I pay 5 hours. Thus, it doesn't make sense for them to ask me if I am going to "extend or not. " I would not respond to those types of questions other than to say that I will pay how long we stay in the room. Normal.

If I am in the room and girl did say something silly like, "You have only 2 minutes left" (when I really have 15 minutes left) -- though I have not observed this personally -- then, I would simply ignore her comment, let her know that I will pay her how long we are in the room, and continue to stay in the room however long I want. Then, at the lockers, I would pay her the correct amount, corresponding to how long we were in the room, and if she doesn't like me paying her the correct amount, then we can go to Reception.

A girl can get away with time cheating only if the man lets her. It doesn't matter what the girl claims the time is. You can just stay in the room how long you want and when you get to the lockers, you just pay her how long you were in the room.

If a girl tells me every five minutes that my next half hour is up, I'm not going to pay her 250 Euros after spending 25 minutes with her in the room. If we actually spent only 25 minutes in the room, I will hand her a crisp 50 Euro bill (despite the fact that she claimed we spent a half hour every five minutes).

You don't pay a girl for the time she "claims" you were in the room with her -- You pay her the time you were actually in the room with her. If I'm in the room with a girl for 1 hour and she claims that we were in the room for 2 hours, I will still naturally pay her for only 1 hour (not for her claimed 2 hours).

These are all hypothetical scenarios though because I can't remember these sorts of situations happening. I am just saying what I would do in the scenarios being described here.

Just for information, my experience is exactly bthe same as UH. Although I do, when I decide it is appropriate, make surprise "thank you" extra payments with girls I am a regular customer for and who give something special.

Girls who start asking about extra time or make false timings reduce their chances of earning more than 50 to almost zero.

But like Jnpr30, a couple of regular girls have told me that girls don't like to have to do the full 30 minutes. What next?. Why not pay 50 euros without going to the room. I am sure the girls would like that.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2203462]Just for information, my experience is exactly bthe same as UH. Although I do, when I decide it is appropriate, make surprise "thank you" extra payments with girls I am a regular customer for and who give something special.

Girls who start asking about extra time or make false timings reduce their chances of earning more than 50 to almost zero.

But like Jnpr30, a couple of regular girls have told me that girls don't like to have to do the full 30 minutes. What next?. Why not pay 50 euros without going to the room. I am sure the girls would like that.[/QUOTE]I think you a veteran of the P6 scene, especially the young and new girls are willing to finish as fast as possible and to leave the room, fortunately this happen to me very rarely just because I am behaving like a gentleman, respecting the girls, taking my time, asking questions, listening to their answers and minutes after minutes the girls are opening their mind, feeling better and better and not willing to leave but rather to extend.

Just try to make a kind of ratio, percentage of girls willing to be fucked like a dog, *****, in their ass, percentage of girls willing to be treated like a woman, with respect, with attention.

So many are willing to go out with me, even have a relationship, no because I am rich or beautiful just because I am listening to them, respect leads to respect and obviously the service that I am getting is at least what I think far better than for many other mongers.

[QUOTE=Theo110;2187119]One thing I did notice was a lot of the Teeny Boppers (18 to 20 year olds) were no longer there including Linda and her brunette friend. Hopefully does not have anything with new laws or regulations. [/QUOTE]Her brunette friend was Magda, they left early January but I don't think it had anything to do with the new regulations. Those 2 were in inseparable when they weren't in a room. I miss Magda.

Your original question UH was "how do the girls ever shortchange a guy on time, how can it happen?" So, I provided one explanation and scenario. There may be many others. It is not a justification. And being short changed on time pi$$es me to no end. I don't care if they don't give DFK, DATY, dada because they are not mandated by clubs rules; but if I pay for 30 min I am entitled to 30 min.

Sadly and I am prepared to lay down any large bet on this, if you average over *all the sessions in Oase and Sharks in a month*, a 30 min session actually last less than 25, and perhaps even closer to 20. That is just the reality.

Relative to your specific situation, I think there are 2 big differences:

1. being prepared to stare down and accept the strife that comes with it.

2. Being a well known member and selecting new girls carefully.

Most guys don't like strife and unpleasantness in a sex session. Hard core career mongers are different, but this is true over the total population in my view. Here the girls are at an advantage. Sex is a business to them and not personal; and if they create the strife and play out their drama, it would succeed with a large majority. Yes, every once in a while they come across someone strong like you, but statistically they are in good position if it works on even 50% of men. Paying 50E for 30M is 1.67E per min, for 25 M is 2E per min, and for 20m is 2.5E per min. Effectively, they raised their prices by 50% if they reduced session length from 30m to 20M. That is a price hike for which they don't mind creating some unpleasantness and strife. Especially if the guy is not known, who they think is unlikely to repeat because he is a tourist, or they think is too weak willed and likely to accept with a smile.

Secondly, if this happened in every single room with you, even you might tire of such a situation but your regular attendance and careful selection preclude that prospect. If a tourist has to achieve the same level, he has to invest as many attendances, as many sessions to become equally known. In other words, this is like a perk that comes to a million mile passenger and not to the first time flier.

Almost all my recent 1 hour sessions have been less than an hour at Sharks, I've noticed it more the last few months than before. Normally the girl starts packing up after about 40 - 45 minutes and gets up says "let's go or shall we go?" I could say "No" and demand an hour but somehow I imagine if I did that the last 15 minutes would be a bit awkward. The rooms have been so hot recently, I've not been too upset at getting turfed out early to be honest.

[QUOTE=LMatador;2178406]My man isn't that Lithuanian Karina you're thinking of? That description fits her to a t. Latvian Angelika is not very tall and has shark's biggest butt.[/QUOTE]No it was definitely Angelika and she does have the largest and wobbliest arse going. Guess my description about her being tall may have misled you but easy to get mistaken with the high heels. Back later this week and as mentioned, I did find Angelika strangely very erotic so may repeat if she's still around though possibly in a threesome if she has a young girlfriend willing to do some mother / daughter roleplay!

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2203653]Almost all my recent 1 hour sessions have been less than an hour at Sharks, I've noticed it more the last few months than before. Normally the girl starts packing up after about 40 - 45 minutes and gets up says "let's go or shall we go?" I could say "No" and demand an hour but somehow I imagine if I did that the last 15 minutes would be a bit awkward. The rooms have been so hot recently, I've not been too upset at getting turfed out early to be honest.[/QUOTE]How did the girl know that you weren't going to stay 2 hours?

If you told her ahead of time that you were only staying an hour, then it seems to me that you created the opportunity for her early departure.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2203640]Relative to your specific situation, I think there are 2 big differences:

1. being prepared to stare down and accept the strife that comes with it.

Most guys don't like strife and unpleasantness in a sex session. [/QUOTE]In my situation, we never have the opportunity to get into a pissing match or the unpleasantness of me "forcing" a girl to stay an extra 15 minutes in the room, because the girl never packs up early in the first place, because as I've explained many times before, the girl never has any idea how long we will be in the room. Therefore, she has no opportunity to know when the appropriate time to start packing up would be, because there is never any moment when she knows whether we will be leaving during the current half hour or 2 hours from now. This is my experience even in clubs where I am completely or mostly unknown like Sharks.

The girl can only suggest an early departure if she knows ahead of time when the guy is planning to leave. Therefore, this behavior by the girl can only occur if the guy willingly enables it.

I'm hopefully coming to Frankfurt later this week from Wed-Fri play and flying back on Sat pm.

Earmarked Oase for the prime Fri slot as it was my favourite on my last trip. Normally like to start at Palace on my first day as it is easier / cheaper transport wise and as I get in the afternoon, I probably won't reach the club until 6 pm and so lack of an outdoor area is less of an issue. However, I always enjoy Wednesday nights at Sharks as there is a high turnout of girls and the only time I've been disappointed with the line up at Sharks was on a Thursday. It may have been a one-off but can Sharks regulars please let me know if there is much difference on numbers of girls between a Weds and a Thursday?

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2203721]



In my situation, we never have the opportunity to get into a pissing match or the unpleasantness of me "forcing" a girl to stay an extra 15 minutes in the room, because the girl never packs up early in the first place, because as I've explained many times before, the girl never has any idea how long we will be in the room. Therefore, she has no opportunity to know when the appropriate time to start packing up would be, because there is never any moment when she knows whether we will be leaving during the current half hour or 2 hours from now. This is my experience even in clubs where I am completely or mostly unknown like Sharks.

The girl can only suggest an early departure if she knows ahead of time when the guy is planning to leave. Therefore, this behavior by the girl can only occur if the guy willingly enables it.[/QUOTE]Well, it is good for you that girls behave well with you. However, I would not call it a pissing match (it can't be a pissing match if the guy wants to have what is rightfully his; I would call it deceitful behavior by the girls instead) and I would definitely not blame the guys that it is their fault somehow for having the session cut short. It happens, it happens to many men, and this behavior is widely prevalent in my view.

Girls don't need to be told by the guy how long he intends to stay. From the 15th or 20th minute onwards and assuming the guy did not shoot yet, they begin making noises and movements to pack up and leave imminently. If the guy says I want to extend beyond 30 min, they will go along but do the same exact thing between the 40th to 50th minute. This was an exact depiction of my session w/ Adele in Oase; first she stopped at around 20th min, and when extended w/ an extra in fact, she still stopped around 50th min and said "you are not going to finish, you can go till tomorrow morning" and with that backhanded compliment, just peeled off the condom ad that was that. None of that was enabled by me.

And if the guy finished at the 16th minute or 44th minute, technically he is entitled to more time but 99% of the girls think they can pack up and leave ASAP.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2203760]If the guy says I want to extend beyond 30 min, they will go along but do the same exact thing between the 40th to 50th minute. [/QUOTE]Well, for one, I don't say I'm going to extend for half an hour. If I am asked about time, I simply say I will pay for how long we stay in the room. This way, the girl doesn't have an expectation of a certain end point.

Ok, I will stop beating this topic to death now. I've said enough (ok, too much). Back to reports of Sharks girls. Sorry for my spam in the Sharks thread.

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2203779]If I am asked about time, I simply say I will pay for how long we stay in the room. This way, the girl doesn't have an expectation of a certain end point.

.[/QUOTE]Great idea and inspiring. Usually when a girl (new one) ask me in the room how long and I like her looks. Then I say one hour. I choose only girls I want to reapet with. But two things make me stop repeating (1) normal service (2) cheating on time.

I don't argue about time because I'm here to have fun and there are lots of girls so I just take it as a bad choice.

But ill do your strategy UH. That way the girls can't cheat on time 👍.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2203760]Well, it is good for you that girls behave well with you. However, I would not call it a pissing match (it can't be a pissing match if the guy wants to have what is rightfully his; I would call it deceitful behavior by the girls instead) and I would definitely not blame the guys that it is their fault somehow for having the session cut short. It happens, it happens to many men, and this behavior is widely prevalent in my view.

Girls don't need to be told by the guy how long he intends to stay. From the 15th or 20th minute onwards and assuming the guy did not shoot yet, they begin making noises and movements to pack up and leave imminently. If the guy says I want to extend beyond 30 min, they will go along but do the same exact thing between the 40th to 50th minute. This was an exact depiction of my session w/ Adele in Oase; first she stopped at around 20th min, and when extended w/ an extra in fact, she still stopped around 50th min and said "you are not going to finish, you can go till tomorrow morning" and with that backhanded compliment, just peeled off the condom ad that was that. None of that was enabled by me.

And if the guy finished at the 16th minute or 44th minute, technically he is entitled to more time but 99% of the girls think they can pack up and leave ASAP.[/QUOTE]Although I'm not as experienced in FKK venues as some having only been 5/6 times (to the same venue) my successful tactics have never altered.

I always tell a girl I've never partied with before that I will only initially book 30 minutes although I often prefer longer sessions. I give the reason that it's better just in case the chemistry doesn't work (real meaning is whether I'm totally enjoying myself.) Often I also add that there have been rare occasions where a girl try's to short change me on time or the agreed services, so if that happens I then haven't wasted too much time or money with a 30 minutes booking.

My experience in using these tactics has been that I very rarely have had any problems with being short changed in time.

Also this keeps the girl guessing and usually gives her an incentive to make me happy.

However when the service has been just OK and it doesn't interest me in extending the 30 minutes some girls feel a bit "put out" as they know they have failed & ask why. I just make up an excuse to save their face.

I do really like bookings of 1-3 hrs and can genuinely say that adopting these tactics using a polite smiley manner I have never wasted money on a poor performing girl.

[QUOTE=BeWilder;2203723] However, I always enjoy Wednesday nights at Sharks as there is a high turnout of girls and the only time I've been disappointed with the line up at Sharks was on a Thursday. It may have been a one-off but can Sharks regulars please let me know if there is much difference on numbers of girls between a Weds and a Thursday?[/QUOTE]I would say, almost emphatically, from my recent visits to Sharks on Weds / Thurs / Fri: The girl (and guy) numbers are markedly higher on Weds vs Thurs. (However, general "mongering conditions" might be higher on a Thurs specifically due to the lower attendance numbers!)

However, if one of your goals in visiting Sharks is to session with a specific girl (s), as your post below about Latvian Angelika of the large buttocks might indicate: it is far more likely you will encounter her working at the club on a Weds (also Fri) rather than on a Thurs. This is especially relevant to girls who do NOT live / sleep in the club girl sleeping quarters, because there is a cadre of girls that actually live / sleep everyday at the Sharks girl dormitories, and who tend to be working almost every day, whilst there are many other regular (more independent) girls that do not sleep at Sharks, and come and go as they wish. I believe your Latvian target fits into the second more independent group.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2203760]Well, it is good for you that girls behave well with you. However, I would not call it a pissing match (it can't be a pissing match if the guy wants to have what is rightfully his; I would call it deceitful behavior by the girls instead) and I would definitely not blame the guys that it is their fault somehow for having the session cut short. It happens, it happens to many men, and this behavior is widely prevalent in my view.

Girls don't need to be told by the guy how long he intends to stay. From the 15th or 20th minute onwards and assuming the guy did not shoot yet, they begin making noises and movements to pack up and leave imminently. If the guy says I want to extend beyond 30 min, they will go along but do the same exact thing between the 40th to 50th minute. This was an exact depiction of my session w/ Adele in Oase; first she stopped at around 20th min, and when extended w/ an extra in fact, she still stopped around 50th min and said "you are not going to finish, you can go till tomorrow morning" and with that backhanded compliment, just peeled off the condom ad that was that. None of that was enabled by me.

And if the guy finished at the 16th minute or 44th minute, technically he is entitled to more time but 99% of the girls think they can pack up and leave ASAP.[/QUOTE]Sorry but this happen more or less never to me, usually after I came I am saying to the girl I will go shower and come back and she in 99 percent of the cases is telling me that she will also go refresh herself and we will meet several minutes later in the same room. I never ask a girl what she is doing and never I long I will stay in the room.

I am a great lover of the German providers so any chance I get I session one. That happened recently when I spied this tall well tattooed damsel sitting in what I call the non-Romanian zone around the bar area near the water dispenser. Approached her, named Gina and ascertained that she was German. My record with Germans is exceptional and decided on not much banter, suggested a 50 euro half hour romp and we were trekking to the zimmer. In the zimmer we apprehended the usual suspects – BBBJ and DATY and dispensed with them in about 5 minutes and delved into CFS. To my great surprise after no more than 20 minutes in the room my date says to me that my time is almost up. What a surprise! Is the Romanian / Bulgarian modus operandi spreading to the Germans? This was a first with a German for me. That totally killed my mood and I decided not to waste a nut on this frau. I said to her – you're wrong, my time IS up.

Paid 50, washed up and sauntered to the same zone with drink in hand. After a few minutes an obvious German with a white corset sits next to me. I immediately chat her up, she's from Nuremberg and will be visiting Sharks on weekends. Again, I want to waste no more time and we agree to a half hour 50 euro session. In the room DFK is followed by BBBJ and DATY and then CFS. This babe is exceptional and we have perfect chemistry so that I nut even within 20 minutes! At this time we clean up and she lies on the bed and I next to her and we chat. This was the best GFE I have had on this trip. I actually think she likes me (I sometimes flatter myself that way). Definitely worth a repeat.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2203925]I am a great lover of the German providers so any chance I get I session one. That happened recently when I spied this tall well tattooed damsel sitting in what I call the non-Romanian zone around the bar area near the water dispenser. Approached her, named Gina and ascertained that she was German. My record with Germans is exceptional and decided on not much banter, suggested a 50 euro half hour romp and we were trekking to the zimmer. In the zimmer we apprehended the usual suspects BBBJ and DATY and dispensed with them in about 5 minutes and delved into CFS. To my great surprise after no more than 20 minutes in the room my date says to me that my time is almost up. What a surprise! Is the Romanian / Bulgarian modus operandi spreading to the Germans? This was a first with a German for me. That totally killed my mood and I decided not to waste a nut on this frau. I said to her you're wrong, my time IS up.

Paid 50, washed up and sauntered to the same zone with drink in hand. After a few minutes an obvious German with a white corset sits next to me. I immediately chat her up, she's from Nuremberg and will be visiting Sharks on weekends. Again, I want to waste no more time and we agree to a half hour 50 euro session. In the room DFK is followed by BBBJ and DATY and then CFS. This babe is exceptional and we have perfect chemistry so that I nut even within 20 minutes! At this time we clean up and she lies on the bed and I next to her and we chat. This was the best GFE I have had on this trip. I actually think she likes me (I sometimes flatter myself that way). Definitely worth a repeat.[/QUOTE]Don t fall in this trap, she doesn't like you but your money, may be she is also not German native, if you don t believe me just try to session her for free.

Iwould say, almost emphatically, from my recent visits to Sharks on Weds / Thurs / Fri: The girl (and guy) numbers are markedly higher on Weds vs Thurs. (However, general "mongering conditions" might be higher on a Thurs specifically due to the lower attendance numbers!

Thanks. Confirms my belief that in terms of numbers Wed has a bigger turnout than Thursday. In fact I've never noticed anydifference between a Wed and a Fri / Sat at Sharks. So it should be:

Wed Sharks.

Thurs Palace.

Fri Oase.

Shame there is no Saturday!

I had two really good laughs. But that aside. I often have very poor timing experience with older germans. The worst was so far in Hamburg, after 5 min she said your time is up (and I was hoping to get 20 min for 50 e). But in fact, I have not yet experienced that in Sharks.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2203925] HERE: I said to her you're wrong, my time IS up.

and HERE: I actually think she likes me (I sometimes flatter myself that way). [/QUOTE]

For fans, Brenda / Lea is back, very slim with flat ass, but still with amazing lungs. Also Dilek and ex Elektra and some others for big tits competition.

Average casting on this Saturday 20 July, not on same level than on mid June, no more Eve, her friend telling: you think she lied to you? When she had rooms only with you. She lost money every day she stayed at Sharks, but didn't want to work for everything asked for sex, not a job for her.

I had to work very hard to find a desirable girl on this Saturday, but even complicated with her, it became enjoyable when she lost control. Also had Judit. Hu at the end of the night, and they went to bang the door to say: finished. When we returned from the room, lights were on in the lounge, different Sharks, she asked if I would come again? I miss my too short time new Eve, so long time to find her, so elegant and classy Romanian woman.

Viorica is now red head.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2204073]For fans, Brenda / Lea is back, very slim with flat ass, but still with amazing lungs. Also Dilek and ex Elektra and some others for big tits competition.

Average casting on this Saturday 20 July, not on same level than on mid June, no more Eve, her friend telling: you think she lied to you? When she had rooms only with you. She lost money every day she stayed at Sharks, but didn't want to work for everything asked for sex, not a job for her.

I had to work very hard to find a desirable girl on this Saturday, but even complicated with her, it became enjoyable when she lost control. Also had Judit. Hu at the end of the night, and they went to bang the door to say: finished. When we returned from the room, lights were on in the lounge, different Sharks, she asked if I would come again? I miss my too short time new Eve, so long time to find her, so elegant and classy Romanian woman.

Viorica is now red head.[/QUOTE]Thanks, for me Brenda tits are really sagging too much for such a young girl, sessioned her one time but the chemistry between us was not there so never repeat, saw Elektra, may from Greece many times in June. Every year the LU is down from 15 of June to 15 of September.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2204073]For fans, Brenda / Lea is back, very slim with flat ass, but still with amazing lungs.[/QUOTE]I'm a big fan of Brenda/Lea but alas it'll be a few more weeks before I'm back in Germany. Anyone kind enough to ask her how long she is staying for would be a great help as I would love to see her again on my next Sharks visit.

Howie

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2204073]......................... Also had Judit. Hu at the end of the night...............................[/QUOTE]Judit told me DFK, BBBJ, DATY, CFS is 100 euros. I asked her for how long, she said half hour. Pass. Good thing I did for later I had two really good sessions each half hour, 50 euros.

Trying to put a name to a girl;

Shortish black hair, slim build, average height, very pretty face (imo), a few tattoos most noticeably a pair of swallows (the birds) on her upper back.

Looks attractive but I suspect not a great session just from her general vibe. Could be wrong.

Any ideas?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2204469]Judit told me DFK, BBBJ, DATY, CFS is 100 euros. I asked her for how long, she said half hour. Pass. Good thing I did for later I had two really good sessions each half hour, 50 euros.[/QUOTE]For me the things are very easy, I just pay extra for anal and CIM, \I never ask the girl before what she is doing or not, just go to the room see how the things are going and I can decide to leave after 5 minutes or stay 10 hours but for 100 euro per hour. For sure I am spending a lot of money but as a old divorced guy I can do with it what I want.

[QUOTE=CitizenKane;2204811]Trying to put a name to a girl;

Shortish black hair, slim build, average height, very pretty face (imo), a few tattoos most noticeably a pair of swallows (the birds) on her upper back.

Looks attractive but I suspect not a great session just from her general vibe. Could be wrong.

Any ideas?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I don't remember her name but, if I've correctly understood who you refer to, she is the most beautiful girl at sharks in my opinion (not my preferred girl BTW).

I did one session with her. Not a great feeling (maybe my fault), but very good DFK. Doesn't talk much. Worths a try at least, and if there is chemistry, many other try.

[QUOTE=Howie;2204178]I'm a big fan of Brenda/Lea but alas it'll be a few more weeks before I'm back in Germany. Anyone kind enough to ask her how long she is staying for would be a great help as I would love to see her again on my next Sharks visit.

Howie[/QUOTE]For me at least Brenda is a very unpredictable girl, I don't believe she is able to tell you what she will do in several weeks even she is able to manage her daily agenda. Now if she is really your favorite better you get her whatsapp or phone and contact her directly.

[QUOTE=CitizenKane;2204811]Trying to put a name to a girl;

Shortish black hair, slim build, average height, very pretty face (imo), a few tattoos most noticeably a pair of swallows (the birds) on her upper back.

Looks attractive but I suspect not a great session just from her general vibe. Could be wrong.

Any ideas?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]That would be Corinna Hun. Very pretty and one of the most popular girls IMO. I've always had amazing sessions with her.

Rock.

Western Europe is going though a bit of a heatwave in combination with quite a drought and I'd seriously avoid Sharks in this kind of weather. Few rooms have air conditioning, and fucking is like fucking inside a greenhouse.

Even if it starts to rain (no significant rain has been forecasted for the next 7 days anyway), then it will really get hot and humid inside, and it will require weeks and weeks of cooler temperatures for the heat-soaked building and rooms to cool down.

Sharks is a nice place during the late autumn, winter and early spring, but during the summers it sucks.

Gents. I will be in Frankfurt starting tomorrow (Thursday, 26 July), and am trying to decide if I should go to Oase or Sharks on Thursday. I will definitely be at Sharks on Friday, and probably Saturday, so thinking of going to Oase on Thursday. But some recent reports suggest some very Sharky behavior and poor service, which would really kill the mood for me.

I am posting the same question on the Oase thread: I know every day and every man is different, and the lineups cannot be predicted, but what would you do?

[QUOTE=NF4591;2205227]But some recent reports suggest some very Sharky behavior and poor service, which would really kill the mood for me.[/QUOTE]Sharky behaviour is becoming more and more the norm, thanks to the uninformed tourists who flood Germany who have no problem to pay E100 for 30 minutes with kissing.

If you go to Sharks, I hope you like HEAT and that you don't sweat easily: expect rooms to be boiling hot!

Sharks is basically a converted warehouse with these aluminium panels on the side and a flat roof, so during the summer the sun will be toasting that building from sunrise till sunset. It's like fucking inside a giant aluminium tool or garden shed that has been baking in the sun! For me it's a total mood-killer.

Do the ladies try to sell BBBJ as extra?

[QUOTE=NNC1701;2205080]Western Europe is going though a bit of a heatwave in combination with quite a drought and I'd seriously avoid Sharks in this kind of weather. Few rooms have air conditioning, and fucking is like fucking inside a greenhouse.

Even if it starts to rain (no significant rain has been forecasted for the next 7 days anyway), then it will really get hot and humid inside, and it will require weeks and weeks of cooler temperatures for the heat-soaked building and rooms to cool down.

Sharks is a nice place during the late autumn, winter and early spring, but during the summers it sucks.[/QUOTE]Strange isn't it. The owner has invested a lot of money in the club over the years but doesn't seem to want to put AC in the rooms. Even World did it a couple of years back.

The thermometer in Frankfurt read 96 degrees today. It felt hotter!

[QUOTE=Wosche;2205415]Do the ladies try to sell BBBJ as extra?[/QUOTE]I don't pay. I don't know what other people experience.

[QUOTE=Wosche;2205415]Do the ladies try to sell BBBJ as extra?[/QUOTE]No upselling for BBBJ at Sharks, sometimes with some girls for DFK.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2205581]The thermometer in Frankfurt read 96 degrees today. It felt hotter![/QUOTE]And no air seems to come out at all from the standing fans in the rooms, despite the whirring noises. I tried the fans in 3 rooms on Wednesday, and they were equally hopeless; the club must have been cheated by the supplier. I gave up after being soaked from head to toe during a session like being in a sauna, and left very early.

In World the day before (Tuesday), I enjoyed all my sessions as there was a light breeze in the garden to cool the beds in the garden; and alternating with the garden sessions, I used the air-conditioned rooms. During hot spells in the future, I will certainly avoid Sharks, and concentrate on World instead.

[QUOTE=CitizenKane;2204811]Trying to put a name to a girl;

Shortish black hair, slim build, average height, very pretty face (imo), a few tattoos most noticeably a pair of swallows (the birds) on her upper back.

Looks attractive but I suspect not a great session just from her general vibe. Could be wrong.

Any ideas?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Definitely Corinna, the Hungarian (as I've heard) like others state. I had similar vibe and was interested of course, but never triggered due to same reasons. I heard people say she provides good service, but I just don't get the right vibe to even approach really. Hey, she maybe one of those types once the door closes, it's wedding night. Who knows. LOL. Her friend was quite friendly though.

I know she's been at Sharks for awhile now, usually hangs at the 5 O'clock (close to the German speakers section), the usual and minute Hungarian part of the bar.

[QUOTE=NF4591;2205227]Gents. I will be in Frankfurt starting tomorrow (Thursday, 26 July), and am trying to decide if I should go to Oase or Sharks on Thursday. I will definitely be at Sharks on Friday, and probably Saturday, so thinking of going to Oase on Thursday. But some recent reports suggest some very Sharky behavior and poor service, which would really kill the mood for me.

I am posting the same question on the Oase thread: I know every day and every man is different, and the lineups cannot be predicted, but what would you do?[/QUOTE]Planning to going to Sharks or Oase on Friday, but it's really hot today. Does anyone have idea that will it be OK there? Or is there any FKK club in Frankfurt who has enough air conditioner? Thanks!

[QUOTE=Wosche;2205415]Do the ladies try to sell BBBJ as extra?[/QUOTE]I do not pay anything extra. I should talk to the girl before going to room to avoid misunderstanding.

[QUOTE=Wosche;2205415]Do the ladies try to sell BBBJ as extra?[/QUOTE]The most beautiful girls, I mean, fresh, natural without sili, bot ox. Will not perform BBBJ in a 50 euro session except you are very pretty and they like you very much.

Despite the scorching weather recently I have been having some very good encounters at Sharks none better than with my latest friend, Analina from Romania, who said she is new to Sharks. She and others have renewed my faith in Romanians. In the past couple weeks I have been exercising patience and have discovered that there are girls who will give good service who can be found if you use your better judgment. I believe that I am a bit different from most blokes on this forum. They go for looks and are quite satisfied to spend hours romancing these babes. That is not what I go to FKKs for; I go to bang girls as hard as I can in all conceivable positions and cap it off with a nut. That is what gives me enjoyment, if I want amorousness with a woman I will go to a bar and pick up a future girlfriend. Now, I am not criticizing guys who seduce these women, I applaud them and understand that that's what gets them off. However, what thrills me is good chemistry with a woman which is achieved when she truly enjoys sex even if her main object is the money. Analina is one such, she made me do sexual things that I have not done in decades. I really look forward to another session with her but I have observed that she already has some other admirers whom I may have to compete with for her. Half hour, 50 euros, no holds barred.

[QUOTE=FunExplorer;2205845]I do not pay anything extra. I should talk to the girl before going to room to avoid misunderstanding.[/QUOTE]I meant you should talk to the girl before taking her to the room!

Got a chance to be at this place. Took taxi from Frankfurt main which costed me 60 euros. Since we were 4 persons so shared the cost. Entered the premises and receptionist asked for 65 euros fees for each of the persons. Paid and went for shower, after keeping everything in locker roamed around to have the feel. Girls were nude everywhere and there must be around 70-80 girls. Some were pushy and approached us to have the deal and they were insisting on 100 euro per hour to have more relaxed experience. I had few normal drinks and then went to pool area. Since there were more girls inside to finally settled inside. Sat on the sofa, again a girl approached and she was damn cute. Negotiated kissing, BBBJ in 50 euros and went for the mission. Inside they again have rules, CIM while BBBJ will cost 100 euros blah blah blah. First did WOT, then finished with doggie. Paid the charges and went for shower again. Smoked few cigarettes and chit chat with friends. Later I approached 1 girl who was looking damn cute, negotiated again with few extras within 50 euros and again in the room. She has given me amazing blowjob. This time I insisted for covered as I was little scared of diseases. But she was too good and have eaten my balls too. Finished in missionary and paid her share. One was my friend getting late so left. Total time spent was around 4 hours. Ate nothing but just had few normal drinks. Almost every girl was from Romania. There were old ones too with lot of make up. Forgot to mention that I am Indian and I haven't seen any racism here. Moving to Prague now and will share my reports in different threads.

I went to Sharks this Friday and Saturday, and had a great time. I have been there several times over the past few years, but not often enough to be recognized by most girls. I did not have any bad sessions, all were fine or even excellent:

Marlyn (Phil) - she's a regular for me. We went outdoors to one of the partially exposed rooms with no walls, sheer curtains, surrounded by bushes. It was very hot outside, but there were a few light breezes. It would have been nice to have a fan but it wasn't terrible. We spent 2 hours, and did everything I wanted with no prior discussion since we've been together before. DFK, oil massage, BLS, rimming, FIV, fia, anal, and it was fun having her try to cool me down with a blow job and BLS with ice cubes in her mouth. Overall another great session, rating 9/10, would definitely repeat.

Lara (DE) - blonde, thin, wall of ink (tattoos) on her back, sits at the tall tables by the wall that separates the main bar and the cafeteria / kitchen. Some guys I met at the bar introduced me to her. She was fine overall: we spent an hour together and she was very German: competent and friendly, but not quite warm. Rating 6/10, would repeat if needing to have a release, but probably would not look for her. Maybe she's warmer in a repeat session.

Brenda (Ro) - long black hair (almost to her waist), very thin (her upper arms are the size of my wrists, and I'm not a big guy), with HUGE natural tits (probably DS or DDs) that hang (but don't sag) and are soft like pillows, with a pretty face. I had been with her a while back but she didn't remember me. I remembered her being a little cold and distant but I wanted a nice sight while fucking so I was open to trying again. She told me BLS and kissing would be +50, and she rejected my request for an oil massage because she says oil is too messy. Those were bad signs, but when we got to the room it was fantastic. She stuck to her rules, but did exactly what we agreed to and did it well. It was pure fun (3 pops in 2 sessions), with DFK, slow and tender BJ with lots and lots of spit as I requested, BLS, 69, Mish, CG, doggy, all with mirrors all-around in the small rooms where the kino used to be, with a couple of short breaks to talk / relax / hang out. The sight of her blowing me, licking my balls, tits swinging in CG or while being pounded in doggy. What great memories. I think she will be one of my regulars if we both find ourselves in Sharks again at the same time. Rating 8/10, would repeat.

To those frequent hobbyists, has any of you seen the 19/20 yo 178 cm tall Romanian named Aliona (or Aliana) recently? When I saw her early this year, she was relatively new (about few months working there). I haven't seen her since. Someone posted her name in the lineup list, but that was back in January.

Back to back days spent at Sharks this weekend Friday and Saturday arriving for lunch around 13.00 and departing approximately eight hours later, goodness me it was hot; and yet some guys were sitting in the sauna and steam rooms. FFS.

Four 30 minute sessions both days with lengthy cooling down times including 2-3 minutes in the cold water plunge bath (next to the sauna) was my required method of working to rapidly reduce the body temp following an energetic encounter.

My eight encounters were with six different girls of whom two were barely ok, two very good and the other pair being excellent service providers. Those worthy of glowing reports whom I'd wholeheartedly recommend were:- Venus, a petite Romanian brunette in her mid 20's; such a pretty little thing whom rode me like a jockey along with sensual kissing and BBBJ. The other is Lynn; a new girl of African origin, she is an amazingly talented performer whom provided two exceptional GFE's. If you're into black girls (and she's the only one on duty at Sharks these days it appears) then Lynn has to be on your to-do list.

Food was good quality; especially the BBQ chicken, lamb chops and various sausages. Not so good was sharing food outside with the annoying wasps and oven like temperature in some of the rooms. Fans were working although, only effective in moving around warm air and those rooms which did have Air Con, the units were inoperable. I also tried a couple of the fresh aired curtained rooms outside, these were my preferred shagging pads however, not all of my chosen ones were happy to perform in these arears.

A common denominator for my best experiences was not agreeing to a fee in advance. Each time a girl informed me, if I expected our session to include kissing then a 100 was required, the reality was invariably disappointing compared to those girls whom just rolled with it and allowed me to reward them accordingly.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2203031]Never been because too far on a week end, from Paris, but I thought Artemis was a good level, big club, with good girls like Geraldine. Hu. My lovely friend Liz. De is ex Artemis. Upselling land?[/QUOTE]Artemis is a club with upselling and that's a fact. What you can get at other clubs in Germany for 100, cannot happen in Artemis. The club is big, beautiful, home to many young tourists, the club is well maintained. Girls type is different from Sharks or other clubs, the mix is more towards silicone girls vs natural girls. Can you describe Liz DE? A good session 1 hour in Artemis is no less than 170 IMO. But, different people have different need. Therefore, some pay more.

Air condition not fan all this girl you see in sweat from other customers makes you think, licking balls or sweat from customers. I went to club around 6 waited for new girl did not care how she looked just wanted fresh girl went to room finished business. Well good luck as I was sweating like In sauna. Wonder if girls takes full shower.

[QUOTE=NF4591;2206451]Lara (DE) - blonde, thin, wall of ink (tattoos) on her back, sits at the tall tables by the wall that separates the main bar and the cafeteria / kitchen. She was fine overall: we spent an hour together and she was very German: competent and friendly, but not quite warm. Rating 6/10, would repeat if needing to have a release, but probably would not look for her. Maybe she's warmer in a repeat session.[/QUOTE]Nope. Since 3 years ago, I have taken her 4 times. She got colder and colder each time, although service was still OK. Still refuses to DFK. I have given up on her. Pity, as I like her body.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2206589]Artemis is a club with upselling and that's a fact. What you can get at other clubs in Germany for 100, cannot happen in Artemis. The club is big, beautiful, home to many young tourists, the club is well maintained. Girls type is different from Sharks or other clubs, the mix is more towards silicone girls vs natural girls. Can you describe Liz DE? A good session 1 hour in Artemis is no less than 170 IMO. But, different people have different need. Therefore, some pay more.[/QUOTE]Plenty of Artemis girls have moved to or from clubs in western Germany such as Palace, sharks, GT, Paradise etc etc. And also globe and other clubs. The list of Artemis girls I have seen in these other clubs are at over 20.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2206839]Plenty of Artemis girls have moved to or from clubs in western Germany such as Palace, sharks, GT, Paradise etc etc. And also globe and other clubs. The list of Artemis girls I have seen in these other clubs are at over 20.[/QUOTE]Berlin is the capital of Germany, only 1 club, and high demand so high price but the LU is not for my taste, few fresh girls mostly veteran around.

[QUOTE=XDrive76;2206698]Can anyone tell me if Anjelica (over 40) is at sharks at the moment...….[/QUOTE]Tuesday, 24 July, she was there.

[QUOTE=RichCandyMan;2206671].Well good luck as I was sweating like In sauna. Wonder if girls takes full shower.[/QUOTE]Don't worry, mals customers go on toilet and leave the toilet bowl after a some minutes session without washing hands afterwards but moving directly to the buffet. Enjoy both food and girls.

Are Elektra (can't remember her new name) and Jessica (blonde ro) in attendance these days? Two of my favorites!

[QUOTE=Danny227;2206589]Girls type is different from Sharks or other clubs, the mix is more towards silicone girls vs natural girls. [/QUOTE]What are you guys view of type for the bigger clubs at the moment: Artemis / Sharks / Oase / Palace are big clubs that seem to be more full of barbie / bimbo type girls (silicone, big lips, long nails and heavy make-up) with Artemis in the lead. As I like barbie looks I am wondering where I should go after my artemis trip? Sharks is my number one contender. When it cools down, perhaps in sepember.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2206589]Artemis is a club with upselling and that's a fact. What you can get at other clubs in Germany for 100, cannot happen in Artemis. The club is big, beautiful, home to many young tourists, the club is well maintained. Girls type is different from Sharks or other clubs, the mix is more towards silicone girls vs natural girls. Can you describe Liz DE? A good session 1 hour in Artemis is no less than 170 IMO. But, different people have different need. Therefore, some pay more.[/QUOTE]Liz. De is blond, blue eyes, round face, kind of shy smile. A 30 yo German with a Russian face. She is from Berlin, she worked at Artemis, then GT and Sharks. She was my July 2013 GF at GT, she always stayed so lovely, remembering how I always treat her. At Sharks on Summer 2015, when she had more weight, I didn't recognize her, so she told me about my Summer and Winter holidays. I thought: who is this girl who know so much about me? These girls remember about us.

A sweet and lovely German girl.

At GT or Sharks, I get at the moment 1 hour GFE rooms for 100 , wish again on this Summer at Wellcum for 140.

[QUOTE=NF4591;2206451] Marlyn (Phil) - she's a regular for me. ...
We spent 2 hours, and did everything I wanted with no prior discussion since we've been together before. DFK, oil massage, BLS, rimming, FIV, fia, anal, and it was fun having her try to cool me down with a blow job and BLS with ice cubes in her mouth. Overall another great session, rating 9/10, would definitely repeat.[/QUOTE]No doubt about it, Marlyn is great if one likes this type of woman.

Two hours! I guess you have heard a lot of stories about her husband! Or the new ones about her father?

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2207006]Two hours! I guess you have heard a lot of stories about her husband! Or the new ones about her father?[/QUOTE]With her, 2 hours pass very rapidly. Unlike my experience with Lara mentioned 6 posts below, my sessions with Marlyn get hotter and hotter each time. I have mastered how to shut her up so that we could get more time on sex, which is probably why I have not yet heard the one about her father.

New story I got from her this year is why she is soon going to call it quits end of this year. If true, NF4591 will need to repeat quickly.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2206589]... Artemis. The club is big, beautiful, home to many young tourists, the club is well maintained...[/QUOTE]Are you referring to Artemis? Because Artemis is a run-down club, hardly better than Acapulco in terms of facilities and food, only with ruder staff and much more smoke.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2207011]New story I got from her this year is why she is soon going to call it quits end of this year. If true, NF4591 will need to repeat quickly.[/QUOTE]Sounds like an old story. She already wanted to quit end of 2017. Glad she didn't.

[QUOTE=OffTheTrack;2206936]Are Elektra (can't remember her new name) and Jessica (blonde ro) in attendance these days? Two of my favorites![/QUOTE]Ex Elektra, now chestnut, more sexy, less vulgar than when fake blond, was at Sharks on Saturday 21 July, without Aylin. At.

Rebeka also. Brenda also. Dilek also. And some new others for big natural titties competition.

[QUOTE=Wiild;2206953]What are you guys view of type for the bigger clubs at the moment: Artemis / Sharks / Oase / Palace are big clubs that seem to be more full of barbie / bimbo type girls (silicone, big lips, long nails and heavy make-up) with Artemis in the lead. As I like barbie looks I am wondering where I should go after my artemis trip? Sharks is my number one contender. When it cools down, perhaps in sepember.[/QUOTE]Artemis in the lead. Then, in case they need to be German I would think Palace, but if you don't care where they come from, Oase has a bigger selection (but light on Germans) I think, but you'll be fine in all in case origin is negligible.

[QUOTE=XXL;2207013]Are you referring to Artemis? Because Artemis is a run-down club, hardly better than Acapulco in terms of facilities and food, only with ruder staff and much more smoke.[/QUOTE]I am not sure when was the last time you were there, but that is far from accurate. Smoke in the main lounge is true. Staff is great (tourists might get different treatment as they are rude many times), facilities are spotless vs the dirty sauna in sharks, you have two new saunas that actually work, one outdoor. Steam sauna is the best from all the clubs, food is low on selection, true. But, it is still OK, always 3-4 things to choose and I am fine. The BBQ is excellent. Rooms are big and clean. Always fresh towels everywhere in the club.

Club is far from run down. I have not been to Acapulco for years, but Artemis wins easily. Again, it is a tourist club, so that is an issue for regular clients. Girls upsell and it is not cheap. But the club is top and it is managed top (spotless clean). Outdoor has no nature, just concrete, but it is OK, so in terms of outdoor it is not a winner.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2206966]Liz. De is blond, blue eyes, round face, kind of shy smile. A 30 yo German with a Russian face. She is from Berlin, she worked at Artemis, then GT and Sharks. [/QUOTE]Have to arrest you here. She doesn't look Russian at all, but a bit Swedish perhaps. I think she is part Swedish also.

Choice chicken, turkey, steak or pussy.

Best choice is chicken.

Turkey is cold, steak no knife.

Pussy cost extra. And free ones are eaten too many times, so old and chewed.

Some how I like chicken.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2206835]Nope. Since 3 years ago, I have taken her 4 times. She got colder and colder each time, although service was still OK. Still refuses to DFK. I have given up on her. Pity, as I like her body.[/QUOTE]I've been with Lara once a few years ago, it wasn't bad but I don't like the skinny look and the white pale skin with the tattoos. I'd rather go with her German friend Barbie, who also has tattoos but with a more suntanned skin and who has a much more voluptuous pornstar look with (tastefully done) silicone implants and jet-black hair.

Always great PSE with Barbie, who usually sits either at the beginning of the bar, close to entrance and restaurant area, or at a table ('German table') separating the restaurant from the main lounge.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2207105]I am not sure when was the last time you were there, but that is far from accurate. Smoke in the main lounge is true. Staff is great (tourists might get different treatment as they are rude many times), facilities are spotless vs the dirty sauna in sharks, you have two new saunas that actually work, one outdoor. Steam sauna is the best from all the clubs, food is low on selection, true. But, it is still OK, always 3-4 things to choose and I am fine. The BBQ is excellent. Rooms are big and clean. Always fresh towels everywhere in the club.

Club is far from run down. I have not been to Acapulco for years, but Artemis wins easily. Again, it is a tourist club, so that is an issue for regular clients. Girls upsell and it is not cheap. But the club is top and it is managed top (spotless clean). Outdoor has no nature, just concrete, but it is OK, so in terms of outdoor it is not a winner.[/QUOTE]Managed well by the HA, most of the girls have a fix relation with one biker, premises are great, staff so so, food bad, LU mostly veteran girls being fucked 10000 and more, not my cup of tea but why not. Great sauna and dampfbad.

After visiting Artemis several times I'm now off to Sharks for the first time next Tuesday.

My review reports are not brilliant (done a few on Artemis) but if anyone who hasn't been to Sharks before is interested I will do a review upon my return?

Reading ISG the main differences between Artemis & Sharks seems to be Sharks having cheaper fee's with the girls, cheaper entrance fee, better food, better outdoor area and the club being less smoky.

I gather The Sharks staff can be a bit unfriendly although not sure about any differences in the wellbeing facilities?

The main perceived negatives I have is that around 80% of the girls at Sharks are Romanian & that it can be a "sweat box" at this time of the year?

Any Sharks visitors that have some tips specific to Sharks before I go, I would greatly appreciate their advise?

She's in Shark in these days?

[QUOTE=Danny227;2207103]Artemis in the lead. Then, in case they need to be German I would think Palace, but if you don't care where they come from, Oase has a bigger selection (but light on Germans) I think, but you'll be fine in all in case origin is negligible.[/QUOTE]Thanks Danny: origin is not so important, Germans are usually nicer to talk to but I am used to rather pushy / sharky Hungarians and Romanians too. .

New to the board. Been to Frankfurt once or twice a year for the past few years. I know a lot of things have changed but I think given the weather sharks is the place to be.

Traveling from California plan to be at Sharks Friday and Saturday possibly all day, 40 y black beard, middle eastern decent feel free to say Hi.

[QUOTE=Michaelj101;2207529]40 y black beard, middle eastern decent feel free to say Hi.[/QUOTE]Half the clientele at sharks fits this description.

I do not understand, but today 8 to 10 tourist from China or Japan came to club, 3 were sitting on my right and 4 were sitting on my left, so many girls came by asking for room fortunately they all went to room earlier and relaxing there but the point is they ask every asian man than skip me as I am not even there and move to next asian man and try to persuade him to go to room. Either its a magnet or easy money not sure why my 50 is different from their 50? Would management care about girls behavior at all.

[QUOTE=HeyyyyyyPaul;2207626]Half the clientele at sharks fits this description.[/QUOTE]Shark is a Turkish club, full of migrants, mostly not eating pork, just a real nightmare.

[QUOTE=Ciccio1;2207383]She's in Shark in these days?[/QUOTE]Last Sunday and Monday she wasn't there.

[QUOTE=Canary;2207382]After visiting Artemis several times I'm now off to Sharks for the first time next Tuesday.

My review reports are not brilliant (done a few on Artemis) but if anyone who hasn't been to Sharks before is interested I will do a review upon my return?

Reading ISG the main differences between Artemis & Sharks seems to be Sharks having cheaper fee's with the girls, cheaper entrance fee, better food, better outdoor area and the club being less smoky.

I gather The Sharks staff can be a bit unfriendly although not sure about any differences in the wellbeing facilities?

The main perceived negatives I have is that around 80% of the girls at Sharks are Romanian & that it can be a "sweat box" at this time of the year?

Any Sharks visitors that have some tips specific to Sharks before I go, I would greatly appreciate their advise?[/QUOTE]Waiting to read your review. I will visit Sharks for the first time in Sept.

[QUOTE=Ciccio1;2207383]She's in Shark in these days?[/QUOTE]Rebeka seen on Saturday 21 July. Problem at Sharks is: can't call to know if girls are working, as can call at Mainhattan, or GT, or LR.

For fans, Aurelia, Jessika silicon, Megan even she is off tour, keep on for Globe business after many tours.

On 2018 , I would say, after GT, Sharks is my second highest level for level in bed with quite pretty girls. Debi. Ro, Manou. Ro, are women in bed. Raïssa was good in bed and sophisticated pretty, but no repeat with upselling girls, like for Madi2 . Viorica really will to please, generous and honest. Found my classiest 2018 girl at Sharks, yesterday at Globe, she would also have been the classiest, even she couldn't compete for amazing level in bed at Globe where You wonder if girls are in love with you, kissing you really deeply, fluently, all along, under shower together after paying. I didn't have enough time to create my new princess Eve with her who ran away from FKK land so fast, but she was really attractive for my mind.

Nevertheless, DFK and BBBJ stay quite standard at Sharks, at least for 1 h for 100 , my standard room to take time to enjoy and to show to the girl, can take a bit of time to take care of her as a woman, not only a piece of meat to fuck, from my experiences, after being really YamaYama, most girls let go, trusting you for sex, some becoming passionate, some changing behavior in a really surprising way, waiting for other YamaYama on next times. Behavior can sometimes pay, rather than extras asked.

[QUOTE=Canary;2207382]After visiting Artemis several times I'm now off to Sharks for the first time next Tuesday.

My review reports are not brilliant (done a few on Artemis) but if anyone who hasn't been to Sharks before is interested I will do a review upon my return?

Reading ISG the main differences between Artemis & Sharks seems to be Sharks having cheaper fee's with the girls, cheaper entrance fee, better food, better outdoor area and the club being less smoky.

I gather The Sharks staff can be a bit unfriendly although not sure about any differences in the wellbeing facilities?

The main perceived negatives I have is that around 80% of the girls at Sharks are Romanian & that it can be a "sweat box" at this time of the year?

Any Sharks visitors that have some tips specific to Sharks before I go, I would greatly appreciate their advise?[/QUOTE]In my opinion 90 percent of the girls in all the FKK are Romanian, even they say they are from Spain, Italy, Russia, Moldova, it is all cheating.

[QUOTE=Canary;2207382]After visiting Artemis several times I'm now off to Sharks for the first time next Tuesday.

My review reports are not brilliant (done a few on Artemis) but if anyone who hasn't been to Sharks before is interested I will do a review upon my return?

Reading ISG the main differences between Artemis & Sharks seems to be Sharks having cheaper fee's with the girls, cheaper entrance fee, better food, better outdoor area and the club being less smoky.

I gather The Sharks staff can be a bit unfriendly although not sure about any differences in the wellbeing facilities?

The main perceived negatives I have is that around 80% of the girls at Sharks are Romanian & that it can be a "sweat box" at this time of the year?

Any Sharks visitors that have some tips specific to Sharks before I go, I would greatly appreciate their advise?[/QUOTE]I m a foreigner but I don t find Sharks staff unfriendly, blondie is friendly at the bar, playing formula 1 for me. I think Sharks staff understood business is becoming slower. Business is also quite slow for most of girls, even some quite pretty and good ones. On my previous post, I forgot Emina. Ro for enjoyable woman type and level in bed, shame on me.

Only bad point for me with staff, is they don t give informations about girls working.

Tuesday may be a slow casting day, but girls may be generous, looking for business.

Sharks is mostly Romania all along the year, high level and expensive Globe also, very expensive = 280 for 30 mn Aphrodisia Zurich city is same, but when they feel You treat them like princess woman, when Germans are mostly only performers in bed but not with same sensuality nor charm than Romanians who can be real illusion GF in bed, sometimes also in club, coming to You full smiling. Sometimes, a ex famous escort in Paris even I didn t notice her with her hidden face photos, playing pornstar at Globe, but becoming a passionate kitten in bed, showing You her points to make her cum, different points than most of women, then becoming fire, keeping You inside her when You finish with eyes away in clouds, then asking to relax together before leaving room, saying this time is on her time, for free, same for shower together, after paying, keeping on kissing You, washing You with her soap, just Romanian magic, only Russians or Latvians can compete for such high sophisticated look, elegance and sensual fire in bed, most of Germans or Hungarians or Czech or Polish, even only few in FKK land, can t compete for woman behavior in bed.

After registration, FKK land future is Romania. Really wish GT staff could understand this, Romanians are fresh blood. Maybe, after running away from Paris 2 years ago, I will have my own small FKK, 1 top girl is enough and better for me, at home, back in Paris.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2207700]I m a foreigner but I don t find Sharks staff unfriendly, blondie is friendly at the bar, playing formula 1 for me. I think Sharks staff understood business is becoming slower. Business is also quite slow for most of girls, even some quite pretty and good ones. On my previous post, I forgot Emina. Ro for enjoyable woman type and level in bed, shame on me.

Only bad point for me with staff, is they don t give informations about girls working.

Tuesday may be a slow casting day, but girls may be generous, looking for business.

Sharks is mostly Romania all along the year, high level and expensive Globe also, very expensive = 280 for 30 mn Aphrodisia Zurich city is same, but when they feel You treat them like princess woman, when Germans are mostly only performers in bed but not with same sensuality nor charm than Romanians who can be real illusion GF in bed, sometimes also in club, coming to You full smiling. Sometimes, a ex famous escort in Paris even I didn t notice her with her hidden face photos, playing pornstar at Globe, but becoming a passionate kitten in bed, showing You her points to make her cum, different points than most of women, then becoming fire, keeping You inside her when You finish with eyes away in clouds, then asking to relax together before leaving room, saying this time is on her time, for free, same for shower together, after paying, keeping on kissing You, washing You with her soap, just Romanian magic, only Russians or Latvians can compete for such high sophisticated look, elegance and sensual fire in bed, most of Germans or Hungarians or Czech or Polish, even only few in FKK land, can t compete for woman behavior in bed.

After registration, FKK land future is Romania. Really wish GT staff could understand this, Romanians are fresh blood. Maybe, after running away from Paris 2 years ago, I will have my own small FKK, 1 top girl is enough and better for me, at home, back in Paris.[/QUOTE]Plenty of various races Asian girls have given me these types of "services" over the years. But these types are extremely (for me at least) in FKK land.

[QUOTE=RichCandyMan;2207630]I do not understand, but today 8 to 10 tourist from China or Japan came to club, 3 were sitting on my right and 4 were sitting on my left, so many girls came by asking for room fortunately they all went to room earlier and relaxing there but the point is they ask every asian man than skip me as I am not even there and move to next asian man and try to persuade him to go to room. Either its a magnet or easy money not sure why my 50 is different from their 50? Would management care about girls behavior at all.[/QUOTE]Should definitely talk to management about it. Tell them to stop approaching the Asian guys s much!

[QUOTE=RichCandyMan;2207630]I do not understand, but today 8 to 10 tourist from China or Japan came to club, 3 were sitting on my right and 4 were sitting on my left, so many girls came by asking for room fortunately they all went to room earlier and relaxing there but the point is they ask every asian man than skip me as I am not even there and move to next asian man and try to persuade him to go to room. Either its a magnet or easy money not sure why my 50 is different from their 50? Would management care about girls behavior at all.[/QUOTE]Your 50 is no different than their 50. However, the girls probably for right or wrong thought they might get that 50 easier out of the other guys or possibly more and skipped you. They go for the money or at least what they perceive will be the bigger payday. In theory it is possible the 8-10 guests from Asia might have stuck to their guns at 50 and you might have been the one persuaded to go for 50+ to the room. They don't know but in their experiences they have possibly had better luck getting an Asian to go to the room and / or to pay more thus skipped you. Don't take it personally. Happens to me often. Happened just this past week. I was talking to a girl and she knew I was doing 100 rooms which is 2 X the standard there and 100 is a nice session there for them especially when slow yet this girl walked away from me right before we were going to get to ' talking business' and literally attacked some Asian guy who just walked thru the doors to the bar area. She probably figured he was first time at the club and easy money perhaps an easy target. He did look a little lost, but I saw it as just a first timer scouting out the area like any guy would do, she probably saw it from a greedy point of view. He kept holding up one hand which I assumed to mean '50' and he ended up walking away. I think he stuck to his guns and sent her packing. She walked away from me (100) to try to squeeze the Asian man for 100+ but walked away with zero and another girl walked away with my 100.

I doubt management would care if you complained they skipped you but perhaps if the Asian Men complained of over aggressiveness they might tell the girls to tone it down, I did hear of that happening at another club.

[QUOTE=RichCandyMan;2207630]I do not understand, but today 8 to 10 tourist from China or Japan came to club, 3 were sitting on my right and 4 were sitting on my left, so many girls came by asking for room fortunately they all went to room earlier and relaxing there but the point is they ask every asian man than skip me as I am not even there and move to next asian man and try to persuade him to go to room. Either its a magnet or easy money not sure why my 50 is different from their 50? Would management care about girls behavior at all.[/QUOTE]What I call little girls, for mind and behavior, many of them at Oase, run Asians because they are usually easy, fast and to upsell, clients. Top smart girls don't run Asians, except Evita, because they prefer to make weekly regular clients.

I was surprised to see on my last Sharks visits: now some Asians seem to be able to say no, even to blond, they don't seem anymore so easy to fuck for girls. Times has changed, not so easy business. Quite slow business for many girls, even seeing Elen sitting waiting at the bar, when no Asians.

[QUOTE=RichCandyMan;2207630]I do not understand, but today 8 to 10 tourist from China or Japan came to club, 3 were sitting on my right and 4 were sitting on my left, so many girls came by asking for room fortunately they all went to room earlier and relaxing there but the point is they ask every asian man than skip me as I am not even there and move to next asian man and try to persuade him to go to room. Either its a magnet or easy money not sure why my 50 is different from their 50? Would management care about girls behavior at all.[/QUOTE]Its the trend worldwide. If you think its bad at FKKs, go to Asia, e.g. Thailand, the Philippines, Indonesia, etc. all the best girls make a bee line for Chinese / Korean / Japanese, etc.

[QUOTE=RichCandyMan;2207630]I do not understand, but today 8 to 10 tourist from China or Japan came to club, 3 were sitting on my right and 4 were sitting on my left, so many girls came by asking for room fortunately they all went to room earlier and relaxing there but the point is they ask every asian man than skip me as I am not even there and move to next asian man and try to persuade him to go to room. Either its a magnet or easy money not sure why my 50 is different from their 50? Would management care about girls behavior at all.[/QUOTE]Many of them are paying 100 and 100, are very shy, have small dick, the dream for a prostitute.

[QUOTE=HeyyyyyyPaul;2207962]Plenty of various races Asian girls have given me these types of "services" over the years. But these types are extremely (for me at least) in FKK land.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, LR which was really GFE land, is down on 2018, for casting and GFE level in bed, Oase is more for kindergarden little girls in mind, than real women, but when they feel you treat them like woman, can really make becoming passionate some Romanians when they are woman type. Found 4 at Sharks on 2018. As I told to my LR ex, she was made to cum, so she answered not with everybody, nor everyday, but knowing her anatony, I did her for our 2 rooms on day, then even she was exhausted at night, but sex was more hot after.

For sure, if casting was high level on April at Globe, but on Tuesday, had really passionate sex. Tina was for first time, but so fresh, so real, so passionate, a real top class Romanian woman type, worthing her expensive rate. During social time, she doesn t ask if You want to go to room, she wait You ask her. Charm and good manners from Constanza. As ask Globe management, Globe is for wow experience, yes on this last visit, it was wow intense passion, even out of room, with my spark girl, and Tina. Megan can't compete on this level of sex.

Visited Sharks after a long business day in Frankfurt. Arrived at 9 pm to see what options I have on a Monday evening. Received voucher for reduced entry. Which is a nice option from my point of view.

The club was pretty empty as expected and compared to Wednesdays. For me this is an ideal starting point since Sharks has typically a good line up even on quiter days.

All my favourites were not present so I needed to make a new choice. I ended up with a tiny girl, Cinep (this is what I remember, turkish name), a newbie in Sharks coming from Oase. We took the option of one of the outside beds with curtains where we spent 2 hours which indicates that is was a nice and relaxing session.

I like the garden in Sharks, especially at these nice warm summer evenings.

[QUOTE=PPan31;2208031]Cinep (this is what I remember, turkish name) [/QUOTE]She spelt it 'Znep'. Slim pretty girl.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2208016]Unfortunately, LR which was really GFE land, is down on 2018, for casting and GFE level in bed, Oase is more for kindergarden little girls in mind, than real women, but when they feel you treat them like woman, can really make becoming passionate some Romanians when they are woman type. Found 4 at Sharks on 2018. As I told to my LR ex, she was made to cum, so she answered not with everybody, nor everyday, but knowing her anatony, I did her for our 2 rooms on day, then even she was exhausted at night, but sex was more hot after.

For sure, if casting was high level on April at Globe, but on Tuesday, had really passionate sex. Tina was for first time, but so fresh, so real, so passionate, a real top class Romanian woman type, worthing her expensive rate. During social time, she doesn t ask if You want to go to room, she wait You ask her. Charm and good manners from Constanza. As ask Globe management, Globe is for wow experience, yes on this last visit, it was wow intense passion, even out of room, with my spark girl, and Tina. Megan can't compete on this level of sex.[/QUOTE]For me Oase is a cheating club, just have a look on the serious German forums, I was never at Globe but I don t pay that price for 1 hour, usually I session the girls for several hours but just for 100 per hour never I will pay 1 cent more, may be I am stupid but it is likethat and many girls are aware about it but still harassing me when I enter a club.

[QUOTE=Michaelj101;2207529]New to the board. Been to Frankfurt once or twice a year for the past few years. I know a lot of things have changed but I think given the weather sharks is the place to be.

Traveling from California plan to be at Sharks Friday and Saturday possibly all day, 40 y black beard, middle eastern decent feel free to say Hi.[/QUOTE]Good luck I hope you like the heat as it's going to be fucking hot this weekend.

Weather forecast for the Frankfurt area: roughly 37 degrees Celsius (about 100 F).

In a warehouse with a flat roof where most rooms have no air con this means that it'll be like fucking in a giant sauna.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2207996]Its the trend worldwide. If you think its bad at FKKs, go to Asia, e.g. Thailand, the Philippines, Indonesia, etc. all the best girls make a bee line for Chinese / Korean / Japanese, etc.[/QUOTE]Except in Macau or China, the girls seems to prefer non chinese. For whatever reason. But upselling is not a thing there as you pay management and not the girls themselves.

Or at the very least seems to have no preferences.

We all know of Patrizia the Moldovan if I have her name spelled correctly? Is there also a Patricia? I fucked a girl at Mainhatten who first told me she had come to Mainhatten having worked somewhere in Austria. When I mentioned I often go to Sharks she told me she knew all the Sharks as she worked there (not sure when) and I told her there was already a Patrizia there she mentioned she spelled hers differently. Later in the evening another girl I was talking to told me ' I know you aren't ready yet I saw you went with (forget name, was different) an hour or so ago. When you are ready let me know. ' I was semi-confused as the girl I roomed with told me she was Patricia and this other girl said ' the girl with the long black hair you went with an hour or so ago. ' She was using a different name with the girls. She was operating as a lone wolf in Mainhatten not socializing with the other girls so I do believe she is newer there and probably using another name maybe like a few other Sharks I have seen this summer working in a red towel perhaps until the fall. Who knows. I really do not care what their names are, if she is lying about Austria or Sharks for that matter or how long she has been a WG. All I care about is the time I spend with her and did I get what I paid for and enjoy myself. Whoever this girl is I had a great 100 room with, gave me all I wanted.

She is probably about 5'6 but had heels on so knock that down to 5'4. HWP. Very pretty with long black hair (somewhat wavy, in between straight and curly) and had one distinctive feature. A large tattoo on her left leg, outer side of the thigh from just above her knee up to below her hip, only color was green. I can not recall what the tattoo was just the location.

Anyone know who this girl might be? A current or past Shark who can ID her and her actual stage name she uses at Sharks? If so I highly recommend her as I suspect she won't be at Mainhatten very long, will check in 22 days once back with the RTGs. Very long blowjob, tasty pussy, two positions and never rushed me but I did blow my load at about the 45 min mark and was starving so got up and put my towel on. 100 e. If one can ID her and find her enjoy her; at Mainhatten or Sharks or wherever the fuck she really came from. I think she was at Palace at some point too if I remember correctly.

[QUOTE=PPan31;2208031]We took the option of one of the outside beds with curtains where we spent 2 hours which indicates that is was a nice and relaxing session.

I like the garden in Sharks, especially at these nice warm summer evenings.[/QUOTE]Oh yes, reminds me first time with Ilka on June 2016. When she went out of lockers, we smiled to each other, started to chat, but as we couldn't be quiet because of a guy, she took my hand and asked: you follow me? We sit in the garden, caressing her hands, looking at her nails, under moon, real illusion in Sharks garden. I miss elegant and sophisticated look with classy manners, like Ilka.

With Villa Vertigo, Sharks have the best garden for honeymoon.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2208229]We all know of Patrizia the Moldovan if I have her name spelled correctly? Is there also a Patricia? I fucked a girl at Mainhatten who first told me she had come to Mainhatten having worked somewhere in Austria. When I mentioned I often go to Sharks she told me she knew all the Sharks as she worked there (not sure when) and I told her there was already a Patrizia there she mentioned she spelled hers differently.[/QUOTE]I know both of them. None of them is in Sharks right now.

The woman with that large tattoo you are talking of is now 29 years old and comes from Timisoara. Yes, her name was Patrizia in Sharks. I first met her in November 2016 in Sharks. In 2017 she worked in Sharks too. Sometimes she wore glasses. Where she is now, I don't know. Maybe Mandy or Lara from Sharks know where she is.

The blonde Patricia from Republic of Moldova currently is on holidays, as it seems. The last three times I was there I didn't see her nor her compagnion Julie.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2208259]I know both of them. None of them is in Sharks right now.

The woman with that large tattoo you are talking of is now 29 years old and comes from Timisoara. Yes, her name was Patrizia in Sharks. I first met her in November 2016 in Sharks. In 2017 she worked in Sharks too. Sometimes she wore glasses. Where she is now, I don't know. .[/QUOTE]Thank you, an encyclopedia.

I think she actually did have glasses on when saw her at Mainhatten. Will check on her status in a few weeks. Definitely a repeat worthy girl, 100 well spent. I first went to Sharks August 2017 but didn't see Moldovan Patrizia until I think December 2017, did they work the floor at the same time ever, or better put does Sharks permit multiple girls to have the same name?

In general which clubs allow this and which ones don't in the Frankfurt area?

Thanks for ID'ing her.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2208269]does Sharks permit multiple girls to have the same name?
In general which clubs allow this and which ones don't in the Frankfurt area?[/QUOTE]Over the years, I have asked a few girls this question. Shark's policy is not to allow multiple use of the same names.

But in reality, same names occur for 2 reasons:

1 More common one is that a girl goes off for some time, and the club recycles her name. But she then comes back, is given a new name, but finds that her old customers are used to her old name and thus reverts to the use of her old name.

2 Less common is that a girl wants to use her real name, but her real name is already taken by another girl. She nevertheless continues with it as she does not like the new name.

World allows multiple use. There was a period when there were 4 Christinas and 3 Alinas present at the same time.

Hello guys,

I was in Shark's today.

I had a nice feeling with one blond girl who works.

At bar inside (fat girl with sexy white pants).

I plan to ask her Facebook or phone number but around 1:30 I didn't see.

Her, I wait around one hour nothing, so I decided to leave.

I live in Basel and I'm on the way.

Someone have an idea, or know her, and can help me to contact her?

Thank you very much in advance for your help.

Good night.

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[QUOTE=TankTank123;2208293] 4 Christinas and 3 Alinas [/QUOTE]One of those four Christinas has finally returned to Mainhatten and has reclaimed her seat at the bar stool right outside the door to the smoking area at the little two seat table. I did her this last trip 2 X once alone once in a double, was happy to see her back. Dark eyes and long curly hair dyed a very light blond. Great memory too, she remembered the exact room we used last time, when we walked in she said ' this is the last room we went together in' ; only this time her salary doubled, as did the time.

However, I highly doubt any of those Alinas are the Alina at Day Care who supposedly shoves a paper towel up her pussy before she fucks the guy.

Thank you for sending Christina back :D

Now just need her sidekick Mischa to return, I actually think they are cousins.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2208318] Dark eyes and long curly hair dyed a very light blond.[/QUOTE]2 of the Christinas had long blond curly hair. Is this one tall and thin, or medium height and curvy? If the former, I will make an effort to go to Mainhatten in my next trip.

Especially if Ella is stll there. Is she? And if so, does she work day or night?

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2208326]2 of the Christinas had long blond curly hair. Is this one tall and thin, or medium height and curvy? If the former, I will make an effort to go to Mainhatten in my next trip.

Especially if Ella is stll there. Is she? And f so, does he work day or night.[/QUOTE]Def not tall and thin, this one more so short or medium height and some might consider her curvy, I would say borderline HWP and curvy. She rarely looks happy, always looks like she is upset or sad.

Ella is still around, she normally pops in between 3 and 5 PM. However she was absent the last trip, present the trip prior to that.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2208329]Def not tall and thin, this one more so short or medium height and some might consider her curvy, I would say borderline HWP and curvy. She rarely looks happy, always looks like she is upset or sad.

Ella is still around, she normally pops in between 3 and 5 PM. However she was absent the last trip, present the trip prior to that.[/QUOTE]Schucks! My only session with that Christina was not very memorable.

Clarification please: does Ella only pop in between 3 pm and 5 pm and leave after that, or does she arrive beween 3 pm and 5pm and stay till night? At World she used to come at 11 am and stayed till 9 pm. I used to have long sessions with her.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2208337]Schucks! My only session with that Cristina was not very memorable.

Clarification please: does Ella only pop in between 3 pm and 5 pm and leave after that, or does she arrive beween 3 pm and 5pm and stay till night? At World she used to come at 11 am and stayed till 9 pm. I used to have long sessions with her.[/QUOTE]Comes in late afternoon and stays until the early hours of the morning / closing. We are talking about the older one, speaks Spanish all the time and claims to be from Alicante. Always stands at the bar in front of the beer and soda area? Just making sure as there is also an Elli and and Elsa.

Christina I am sure is a hit and miss. Sort of like Rebecca at Dietz ( also World and Oase) , she is a feast or famine type. If she likes you it shows if not shes a cold fish. Several guys i know have been displeased with her and Rebecca for that matter. Fortunately both of them have me on their 'give excellent service list' so they are both on permanent payroll assuming their good behavior continues

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2208338]Comes in late afternoon and stays until the early hours of the morning / closing. We are talking about the older one, speaks Spanish all the time and claims to be from Alicante. Always stands at the bar in front of the beer and soda area? Just making sure as there is also an Elli and and Elsa.[/QUOTE]Oops! I mistakenly gave you her name in World. She is slim and young. I have just checked another website which reports that she uses 'Amber' at Mainhatten. Do you know her?

[QUOTE=Pistons;2208213]Except in Macau or China, the girls seems to prefer non chinese. For whatever reason. But upselling is not a thing there as you pay management and not the girls themselves.[/QUOTE]I'll have to disagree with you here. I hobbied numerous times in China before the crackdown in Chang Ping in 2014 and it was worse there than in any other countries. Non-Asians were consistently charged more than Asians for the same service; that was institutionalized. Girls were afraid of the perceived 'anaconda'. In Macau I am told that the girls render worse service to whites than they do to Asians.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2208293]Over the years, I have asked a few girls this question. Shark's policy is not to allow multiple use of the same names.

But in reality, same names occur for 2 reasons:

1 More common one is that a girl goes off for some time, and the club recycles her name. But she then comes back, is given a new name, but finds that her old customers are used to her old name and thus reverts to the use of her old name.

2 Less common is that a girl wants to use her real name, but her real name is already taken by another girl. She nevertheless continues with it as she does not like the new name.

World allows multiple use. There was a period when there were 4 Christinas and 3 Alinas present at the same time.[/QUOTE]Can anyone confirm whether Patricia (Ro) who started in Sharks in August 2017 is now going by the name Anita?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2208397]I'll have to disagree with you here. I hobbied numerous times in China before the crackdown in Chang Ping in 2014 and it was worse there than in any other countries. Non-Asians were consistently charged more than Asians for the same service; that was institutionalized. Girls were afraid of the perceived 'anaconda'. In Macau I am told that the girls render worse service to whites than they do to Asians.[/QUOTE]The most famous place in China was Donggan in the south 100 kilometers from Shenzhen, there were probably 100000 and 100000 of prostitutes there, laowai or foreigners like me were always charged 2 or 3 times that normal price. The best sex with the most beautiful girls was for me at least in China, impossible to compare to Thailand, Philippines, vietnam or FKK.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2208326]2 of the Christinas had long blond curly hair. Is this one tall and thin, or medium height and curvy? If the former, I will make an effort to go to Mainhatten in my next trip.

Especially if Ella is stll there. Is she? And if so, does she work day or night?[/QUOTE]Yes, Ella ex World is at Mainhattan, starting quite early, but not so slim than when she started. She claims to have better business than at World.

Long time at World, with baby face, curly fake blond, not tall, Christina is also at Mainhattan. Friendly and sweet but average in bed on 2015, my Vatertag mistake. One had so black eyes seeing me going with her.

Marina is the most attractive look for my eyes, but nothing exceptionnal in room on 2015. No run to repeat.

Can someone please let me know if these ladies are currently at Sharks.

Mila.

Mia.

Emma.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=WilliamHuntley;2208438]Can someone please let me know if these ladies are currently at Sharks.

Mila.

Mia.

Emma.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Did not see Emma on 4 visits between July 15th-26th. Mia was there with blue hair most days. Mila went home on the 16th but should be back now.

[QUOTE=WilliamHuntley;2208438]Can someone please let me know if these ladies are currently at Sharks.
Mila. Mia. Emma.
Thanks![/QUOTE]Currently (last Wednesday) no Mila, no Emma. Mia, with bluegreen hair, was there.

[QUOTE=WilliamHuntley;2208438]Can someone please let me know if these ladies are currently at Sharks.

Mila.

Mia.

Emma.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Emma is in Rumania for 3 months, she tries to get her driving license.

Pardon my englis, emma is super nice for 100, tall German girl wanted 1 hour and extra either CIM or DFK for 50 did not go with her, too many people seems like very scary crowd, too many 81's at late night. Not many girls works because of that.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2208397]I'll have to disagree with you here. I hobbied numerous times in China before the crackdown in Chang Ping in 2014 and it was worse there than in any other countries. Non-Asians were consistently charged more than Asians for the same service; that was institutionalized. Girls were afraid of the perceived 'anaconda'. In Macau I am told that the girls render worse service to whites than they do to Asians.[/QUOTE]The male managers were racist most places in China (Chang ping) and a few places in macau, but in my experience, not the girls. Or I guess there was one girl out of more than a hundred. If the girl is ready for you, any girl can take a big one. Unless you are over 20 cm and the girl is below 1.50 at least.

The racism I got was mainly in KTV's where I saw the managers refused to show me the pretty girls, and only showed me the uglies. While the chinese next to me were shown 8's and 9's. LOL! I even overheard a few girls at three occations ask the managers when walking past me, once they saw me checking them out, if he could offer them to me. But the manager refused, saying they were not for me. (Too pretty).

But at the big Macau saunas, that kind of racism cannot happen due to how the showtime lineups work, so I stuck to Macau. But the scene there is ruined now from what I read.

In the room I got perfect service by several girls all over asia including Macau and one in chang ping I repeated (untill the manager noticed I had found someone and moved her onto the non-western group, LOL).

[QUOTE=RichCandyMan;2208571]Pardon my englis, emma is super nice for 100, tall German girl wanted 1 hour and extra either CIM or DFK for 50 did not go with her, too many people seems like very scary crowd, too many 81's at late night. Not many girls works because of that.[/QUOTE]What are 81's who scare clients?

Had Judit. Hu at 4.20 am on my last visit on 20 July, with no problems.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2208743]The male managers were racist most places in China (Chang ping) and a few places in macau, but in my experience, not the girls. Or I guess there was one girl out of more than a hundred. If the girl is ready for you, any girl can take a big one. Unless you are over 20 cm and the girl is below 1.50 at least.

The racism I got was mainly in KTV's where I saw the managers refused to show me the pretty girls, and only showed me the uglies. While the chinese next to me were shown 8's and 9's. LOL! I even overheard a few girls at three occations ask the managers when walking past me, once they saw me checking them out, if he could offer them to me. But the manager refused, saying they were not for me. (Too pretty).

But at the big Macau saunas, that kind of racism cannot happen due to how the showtime lineups work, so I stuck to Macau. But the scene there is ruined now from what I read.

In the room I got perfect service by several girls all over asia including Macau and one in chang ping I repeated (untill the manager noticed I had found someone and moved her onto the non-western group, LOL).[/QUOTE]Sorry but I am living in China for more than 15 years, really no need to visit a KTV so many other possibilities to meet young and sexy girls.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2208743]The male managers were racist most places in China (Chang ping) and a few places in macau, but in my experience, not the girls. Or I guess there was one girl out of more than a hundred. If the girl is ready for you, any girl can take a big one. Unless you are over 20 cm and the girl is below 1.50 at least.

The racism I got was mainly in KTV's where I saw the managers refused to show me the pretty girls, and only showed me the uglies. While the chinese next to me were shown 8's and 9's. LOL! I even overheard a few girls at three occations ask the managers when walking past me, once they saw me checking them out, if he could offer them to me. But the manager refused, saying they were not for me. (Too pretty).

But at the big Macau saunas, that kind of racism cannot happen due to how the showtime lineups work, so I stuck to Macau. But the scene there is ruined now from what I read.

In the room I got perfect service by several girls all over asia including Macau and one in chang ping I repeated (untill the manager noticed I had found someone and moved her onto the non-western group, LOL).[/QUOTE]Sorry but Macau is a nightmare for any demanding monger.

Ok. Back on topic, that is to say. FKK Sharks.

Since my previous visit in March; I noticed last weekend that, 100 has very definitely replaced 50 as the entry level fee for many of the sex workers, at least the ones I'm inclined to target.

Of course plenty of the 'lesser lights' are still ok with accepting 50 although, invariably these are the girls I wouldn't necessarily be attracted to in an environment like Sharks or Oase. Perhaps it was time for an increase in the minimum fee anyway, after all 50 is rather light. Nonetheless a 100% price increase in any scenario is rather brutal me thinks.

However, reducing my activity over 7 hours to three x 100 sessions without a tip is not so different to four girls paying 50 + tip.

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[QUOTE=WilliamHuntley;2208438]Can someone please let me know if these ladies are currently at Sharks.

Mila.

Mia.

Emma.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Mila no. Short vacation, back soon.

Mia yes at Sharks, short blue hair, skinny.

Emma no. Long vacation, back after summer she say.

Also:

Lily finally back, wonderful girl keeping in great shape.

Helen gone.

Estephania now Oase.

[QUOTE=Pentire;2208895]Ok. Back on topic, that is to say. FKK Sharks.

Since my previous visit in March; I noticed last weekend that, 100 has very definitely replaced 50 as the entry level fee for many of the sex workers, at least the ones I'm inclined to target.

Of course plenty of the 'lesser lights' are still ok with accepting 50 although, invariably these are the girls I wouldn't necessarily be attracted to in an environment like Sharks or Oase. Perhaps it was time for an increase in the minimum fee anyway, after all 50 is rather light. Nonetheless a 100% price increase in any scenario is rather brutal me thinks.

However, reducing my activity over 7 hours to three x 100 sessions without a tip is not so different to four girls paying 50 + tip.[/QUOTE]Yep, any fool who goes to the room without negotiating price beforehand can end up paying a hefty bill.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2208968]Yep, any fool who goes to the room without negotiating price beforehand can end up paying a hefty bill.[/QUOTE]Or, learn how to handle the girls in the room. Different folks, different strokes. No one size fits all. Everyone has their different approaches that work for them.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2208968]Yep, any fool who goes to the room without negotiating price beforehand can end up paying a hefty bill.[/QUOTE]15 years of FKK, 600 hundred girls, never negotiate before going to the room, 50 euros for 30 minutes 100 for 1 hour, the only extra I pay for is CIM 50 and 100 for anal, if the girl is asking extra money for kissing, licking. I immediately leave the room and will never go again with her, fortunately this happen less than 5 times.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2208848]What are 81's who scare clients?[/QUOTE]Hells Angels.

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2208973]Or, learn how to handle the girls in the room. Different folks, different strokes. No one size fits all. Everyone has their different approaches that work for them.[/QUOTE]Good point UH, all varies girl to girl and club to club and of course the guy's ability. I think in general Turgid's advise is not only good (probably the best out there and coming from a guy who has been doing this 15 years longer than I so I absolutely respect his style if it works for him) and one I tend to follow the majority of the time but I did observe and went with another guy's approach once (maybe twice or more) . A local I was talking too just walked up and sat down next to a girl and was off to the room. I assumed the guy already knew her it happened so fast but turned out he didn't. I asked him later how it was he told me ' ok'; I do not think he got exactly what he wanted or he simply did get what he wanted and kept it between he and the girl. His choice and prerogative. However, he was happy as per him ' he really wanted to see that girl. ' Maybe sometimes a gamble can pay off. After 30 years of fucking these girls here and there and mainly in Latin America if I lack the confidence in myself to gamble I need find a new game. I was told once (more than once) sometimes when you make the commitment to the girl in some cases she might be more apt at that point to ' play ball' with you once the door closes. Certainly a higher risk play not out of my playbook (is now) but IMO once you reach a certain level of recognition in the club or clubs for that matter (a level I am not at yet in enough places) you can play your cards differently. I ended up doing the same as that guy and ended up with a 50 room that didn't include all I wanted but what I did get was a trip to the room with some eye candy I really wanted for years, in the end I was quite happy for 50.

In your case UH especially at Oase given the demand for your converted American dollars IMO you can simply go to the room with any girl, they would be a fool not to work with you on price and services. 50/100 guys like me have to be more cautious, but I am finally of the frame of mind ' no risk no reward' can be employed at times. As can biting the bullet and paying 100 or 150 for what I could get for 50 or 100 elsewhere as long as I am paying ' market for that particular venue' and not exceeding the high end of the club pricing even if upsold. If I can not afford a 100 half hour or 150 hour at ' the upsell' clubs I have no business dropping $35 K plus a year in Germany / Spain in the first place. Just my opinion, which is no better or worse than the next guys. " Do what works for you. ". On the plane ride home ask yourself ' Did I have a good time and do I have any regrets' and adjust accordingly, if the answer is ' no' fix what went wrong but no longer for me is the question only ' Did I get BBBJ' or ' Did I get 58 minutes and not 60' and so on. Of course I can play ball this way as I ' average' out by hopping on the S2 where my service is never in question. Is CBJ one night and three creampies in three doubles the next day really so bad? A few times I have come home and been asked ' Did you fuck any beautiful women' (as in the very top of the LU) and my answer was ' no, I aimed a tad lower to ensure BBBJ' I was called a fool and asked ' why would you not pay 50 E more when you are paying $3 K-$4. 5 K per trip, can you not afford the extra dough to fuck someone you really want to?' Likewise, my shrink the other day even asked me ' what good is a blowjob with a condom on'; of course you pay the 50 euro extra. 50 Euros will not make a difference in my life; not today, not tomorrow, 5 years from now, 10,20 and when I am dead my money is useless to go 6 feet under the ground to be eaten by maggots with money in the bank. However the day I do go to my grave the one thing that will make a difference is my memories. It is those memories I need to focus on not have ' BBBJ Blinders' on non stop.

That being said I am sure this post will not be met with much popularity and possibly the flames will fly but once again IMO as long as you aren't rewarding terrible behavior, even if upsold if you price is within range of what is tolerated and accepted at that club so be it. My answer:

My trip, my money, my cock, my choice.

I really want to fuck that one Mainhatten girl and if I truly have to pay 50 E more and do a 100 E half hour (and she gives full time) so be it. I would rather do that than sit here with the regret I have especially since I fucked some skank here for $100/15 yesterday in the hood. I will also add I would rather have a CBJ girl with a great attitude than a flying gazelle with her ribs almost showing who sucks me bareback with an attitude and painted on eyebrows especially when you see half of them in the AM come down for breakfast or walk in the club in street clothes looking like shit. Different strokes for different folks.

I will be 50 this year, been doing this 30 years and have experienced plenty and I have no clue when I will be gone or when I will not be able to fuck anymore but one thing is for sure, the day this does all end my career will be self judged by my memories, not my portfolio's balance. To each their own. The only page we should all be on the same page on is not paying more than market range for a particular club.

For right or wrong my two cents. If I ever return to Latin America (which one can find all them in Barcelona all over 24/7 anyway) I can play games as those girls are easy to handle in my sleep. But given the overall investment I have to make to go to Europe and play, I do not plan on flying home again with regrets, the only regret will be if I got ripped off and set a bad precedent for all.

I do not want to single out Takedown here, I ' think' it was he who did a room with Oase Adele and paid 150 for the hour to get the service he desired from the girl he wanted (most important thing) my first reaction was he got hosed, but when I really think about it he fucked probably one of the top girls there, had a great time and I highly doubt he regrets it, for that I congratulate him. Perhaps I should have done what he did at Mainhatten with that girl. Was TD really upsold or did he just pay more for a girl he really wanted to fuck, one of the elites? I think the latter. Give him a passing grade. Give me a failing one. He got an hour with a beautiful one. For 50 less I got an hour with a girl who really wasn't the one I wanted. Takedown, did not mean to single you out and it may have been someone else who paid Adele the 150, I am happy for whoever that was.

Now back to your regularly scheduled program.

Hi Kosher,

Can you give me some idea on GT Bruggen, Sharks or any quality place these days. I used to go to Bruggen a lot in 2016 but then I got laid off. So I could not afford.

Also I tried YY once but I did not like it. It was bit rough and I love the outdoor park in GT Bruggen. Also I went to LR once. Even though girls were more friendly than in GT, but quality was not that good. I used to see a Polish girl in GT, Bruggen, she was amazing. Tall, blonde and very sexy. I forgot her name. I also met one Russian girl. She was pretty amazing too. And asked me to come over to Zurich. But I have never mongered in Zurich. Can you please give me your views on Zurich FKKs? Is it worth going there? I really miss BJ without condom. Is it still on these days? I am not doing any action for more than a year!

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2209117]Good point UH, all varies girl to girl and club to club and of course the guy's ability. I think in general Turgid's advise is not only good (probably the best out there and coming from a guy who has been doing this 15 years longer than I so I absolutely respect his style if it works for him) and one I tend to follow the majority of the time but I did observe and went with another guy's approach once (maybe twice or more) . A local I was talking too just walked up and sat down next to a girl and was off to the room. I assumed the guy already knew her it happened so fast but turned out he didn't. I asked him later how it was he told me ' ok'; I do not think he got exactly what he wanted or he simply did get what he wanted and kept it between he and the girl. His choice and prerogative. However, he was happy as per him ' he really wanted to see that girl. ' Maybe sometimes a gamble can pay off. After 30 years of fucking these girls here and there and mainly in Latin America if I lack the confidence in myself to gamble I need find a new game. I was told once (more than once) sometimes when you make the commitment to the girl in some cases she might be more apt at that point to ' play ball' with you once the door closes. Certainly a higher risk play not out of my playbook (is now) but IMO once you reach a certain level of recognition in the club or clubs for that matter (a level I am not at yet in enough places) you can play your cards differently..[/QUOTE]

All good points KK. The proper negotiation technique will indeed depend on the circumstances, which club, etc.

I would simply add that in some cases, there is a decided downside to negotiating.

(1) Sometimes, attempting to negotiate can be viewed as an "invitation to negotiate. " If I ask a girl, "Will you do X service in the room?" The act of asking her may encourage her to counteroffer with a price for said service, whereas had we simply went to the room, oftentimes, she will render this service as part of our standard rate / standard services.

(2) Sometimes asking for DFK up front will prompt a "no" answer because she hasn't gotten to know you yet. She doesn't know if I have stinky breath yet or if she will be comfortable kissing me, so she may be inclined to say no upfront, whereas had we went to the room, it turns out she might kiss anyways in the room.

Just because I don't usually negotiate up front in Germany doesn't preclude me from further negotiating in the room, even if such negotiation doesn't involve the offer of additional cash.

I'm not saying anyone's approach is wrong. I'm simply saying that there are many factors one must consider based on their individual circumstances, taking all factors into account. Indeed, in some countries, in some situations, I am better off negotiating some things ahead of time. Just depends.

No one size fits all approach. I certainly wouldn't be so bold to say that anyone who doesn't negotiate every minute detail beforehand is a damn fool. Everyone has to find what works for them -- just as you yourself remarked below.

[QUOTE=Lonely18;2209119]Hi Kosher,

Can you give me some idea on GT Bruggen, Sharks or any quality place these days. I used to go to Bruggen a lot in 2016 but then I got laid off. So I could not afford.

Also I tried YY once but I did not like it. It was bit rough and I love the outdoor park in GT Bruggen. Also I went to LR once. Even though girls were more friendly than in GT, but quality was not that good. I used to see a Polish girl in GT, Bruggen, she was amazing. Tall, blonde and very sexy. I forgot her name. I also met one Russian girl. She was pretty amazing too. And asked me to come over to Zurich. But I have never mongered in Zurich. Can you please give me your views on Zurich FKKs? Is it worth going there? I really miss BJ without condom. Is it still on these days? I am not doing any action for more than a year![/QUOTE]Not sure if was meant for a PM or here but either way.

Can't help you with anything outside of Sharks per your request. You seem to actually know more about the other places. I am a scumbag, cities like Zurich do not fit my character rather cities in towns like Dietzenbach with low end housing projects are where you will find me in some hole in the wall behind some industrial complex.

As to Sharks plenty in this thread, been a few months since I went, never had an issue finding anyone, 50/100 always does the trick and I love the layout. Easy to get to on the train too, only:19 min on the RB68. If I skip it next trip will be because of shortage of time and the lack of AirCon, the Gypsies themselves are taking their largest percentage pay cut since I enrolled there on the next trip since no AirCon there.

Enjoy your trip, plenty here to help you with those other clubs and opinions on Zurich.

[QUOTE=Lonely18;2209119]Hi Kosher,

Can you give me some idea on GT Bruggen, Sharks or any quality place these days. I used to go to Bruggen a lot in 2016 but then I got laid off. So I could not afford.

Also I tried YY once but I did not like it. It was bit rough and I love the outdoor park in GT Bruggen. Also I went to LR once. Even though girls were more friendly than in GT, but quality was not that good. I used to see a Polish girl in GT, Bruggen, she was amazing. Tall, blonde and very sexy. I forgot her name. I also met one Russian girl. She was pretty amazing too. And asked me to come over to Zurich. But I have never mongered in Zurich. Can you please give me your views on Zurich FKKs? Is it worth going there? I really miss BJ without condom. Is it still on these days? I am not doing any action for more than a year![/QUOTE]If KK is your new star be sure that you share the same point of interest, since many months I really have some doubts if KK is not one of the girls working in the clubs.

[QUOTE=Ulver;2209074]Hells Angels.[/QUOTE]At Sharks? Never had problems with Hells there. We may not be on same type of girls. Also never had problems at World when I was there every week end.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2208968]Yep, any fool who goes to the room without negotiating price beforehand can end up paying a hefty bill.[/QUOTE]When I meet a girl on first time, I don't want to speak about money or services, desire is not a market for me, but I look at how she looks at me, I listen to what she says and how she talks to me, I look at her hands and nails care, and shoes, to know what kind of girl she is. In room, I don't ask, I don't beg, I behave to make her will to give me, much more enjoyable than saying: I pay, so suck me.

On my last Sharks visit, I noticed a claimed part timer, seen for first time, she smiled to me, we introduced to each other at the bar, close to Stefi, she asked me how long I wanted to go? I answered as always: I like to take my time to enjoy, but it will depend on you, she answered: we have to be both to enjoy, interesting answer from a 32 yo Romanian woman, not a little girl. Let's go, not a model, but classy type. Ln room, after only few foreplay, she told me: but you are making love, for such intimacy, it's not same rate, I answered: I treat you like my GF, but if you want, we can stop and I pay you for the time, she looked at me and said: I don't want we stop, then kept on caressing, then DATY, I think she tried to resist, but she lost control for a deep YamaYama, and then became really passionate, with really deep kissing while fucking. 1 h30,150 , she said: I can't have other client like you for today, but was full smiling after, like were Emina, or Debi. If she was prettier, I would have returned to her to play to YamaYama her again, because she was a real pleasure after orgasmus. This is my way for sex to get pleasure, not only to empty balls, even when paying, give and you will be given back. Have to accept risk to lose sometimes, less risky about level in bed and behavior at Globe. Never needed to go to complain about any girl and I don't want, it stays just between the girl and me.

I am looking to visit an FKK club, like sharks, the first time this week.

Advice from the experienced punters: would you take any precautions for your first visit (HPV / Heptatitis vaccine for example)?

[QUOTE=Kossy;2209274]I am looking to visit an FKK club, like sharks, the first time this week.

Advice from the experienced punters: would you take any precautions for your first visit (HPV / Heptatitis vaccine for example)?[/QUOTE]Use condom to fuck, this is the biggest risk. No big risk when kissing or for BBBJ or DATY, saliva is a good protection, maybe you will catch cold in hot summer, but not much more. Relax and enjoy.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2208968]Yep, any fool who goes to the room without negotiating price beforehand can end up paying a hefty bill.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2208973]Or, learn how to handle the girls in the room. Different folks, different strokes. No one size fits all. Everyone has their different approaches that work for them.[/QUOTE]UH, I believe that Turgid knows how to handle the girls, at least I hope so, given his self-reported 30 years in the hobby. But can we just agree that his experience is different than yours? Turgid speaks openly about his spending habits. It sounds like probably 80 percent of his sessions are 50 EUR rooms. And he tends to sample the rainbow rather than repeat.

You on the other hand have mentioned that you do "long rooms". You've mentioned taking WGs out of the FKK where they work and taking them as your "date" to a second FKK. Based on your visit frequency and such statements, one might assume that there are several Oase WGs that have earned 4 or maybe even 5 digit sums from you in the last 12 months. At the same time, I get the impression that you are a big-spender but also value-oriented. Perhaps you offer the WG 500 EUR for 8 hours. And will repeat that "deal" multiple times with the WG that is lucky enough to be your "wife" for that trip. As we know the WGs talk and observe, so that enhances your street credibility and affords you some "social proof". This in turn leads you to get good 50 EUR session and 100 EUR sessions when auditioning new WGs even without "negotiating beforehand".

If I am even remotely correct, then your approach is extremely effective for you. You've spent thousands over the years at Oase to build your brand and establish yourself as a "platinum level" customer. The preferential treatment you receive is thus well-deserved. That said we could argue that Turgid is partially correct. Even if you've managed to pay less than 100 EUR per hour, you've run up hefty bills with many WGs. In other words, you are like the customer who books first-class flights regularly and remains loyal to the same airline (Oase). Turgid is like the customer who uses the search engines looking for bargains. Guess who gets better customer service when there are cancelled flights or delays. Guess who gets upgraded or given free flights.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2209619]UH, I believe that Turgid knows how to handle the girls, [/QUOTE]My only point was in response to the blanket statement that one is a fool if one does not negotiate everything upfront.

My point was quite simply that this works great for some people, but others have different approaches that work for them -- but that does not make automatically make all those people "fools. ".

Based on your lengthy response, you seem to be thinking that I am taking issue with Turgid's approach. I am not.

I am not criticizing Turgid or his fantastic abilities with the girls. If Turgid's fine approaches work for him, then great. I am definitely not criticizing his approach.

I know many fellow hobbyists who don't negotiate everything upfront, and their approach seems to be working great for them as well. That is the only point I was endeavoring to make when I replied to Turgid's original email. Different folks, different strokes was my point. That's all.

If I inadvertently offended Mr. Turgid, I hereby offer to buy Mr. Turgid a drink of the non-alcoholic variety the next time we are both at Oase and extend my humble apologies to him.

If a guy has been mongering for a long enough time, he should be able to pick up non verbal cues. Unless he is tone deaf. Not everything can be negotiated, contracted, and properly enforced. If she promises kissing, does the negotiation further stipulate the amount of tongue insertion, the length of time that tongues will twist around each other, and the ounces of saliva exchanged?

Secondly, a huge part of the appeal of this hobby is that not all sessions will be the same; when some sessions turn out to be super hot when you were least expecting them, it is such a pleasant thing to happen. Truly a life of chocolate box. If every session mechanically ticked off every box, it is no more appealing than every single meal one eats being filet mignon.

I think the obsession to avoid "mistakes" by which they mean not so great sessions, is a huge mistake in itself. Instead of truly imbibing the whole sexual milieu, one is constantly worried about avoiding mistakes and not truly appreciative of how good it is to be living this monger life.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2209232]When I meet a girl on first time, I don't want to speak about money or services, desire is not a market for me, but I look at how she looks at me, I listen to what she says and how she talks to me, I look at her hands and nails care, and shoes, to know what kind of girl she is. In room, I don't ask, I don't beg, I behave to make her will to give me, much more enjoyable than saying: I pay, so suck me.

On my last Sharks visit, I noticed a claimed part timer, seen for first time, she smiled to me, we introduced to each other at the bar, close to Stefi, she asked me how long I wanted to go? I answered as always: I like to take my time to enjoy, but it will depend on you, she answered: we have to be both to enjoy, interesting answer from a 32 yo Romanian woman, not a little girl. Let's go, not a model, but classy type. Ln room, after only few foreplay, she told me: but you are making love, for such intimacy, it's not same rate, I answered: I treat you like my GF, but if you want, we can stop and I pay you for the time, she looked at me and said: I don't want we stop, then kept on caressing, then DATY, I think she tried to resist, but she lost control for a deep YamaYama, and then became really passionate, with really deep kissing while fucking..[/QUOTE]Well done I behave the same.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2209680]If a guy has been mongering for a long enough time, he should be able to pick up non verbal cues. Unless he is tone deaf. Not everything can be negotiated, contracted, and properly enforced. If she promises kissing, does the negotiation further stipulate the amount of tongue insertion, the length of time that tongues will twist around each other, and the ounces of saliva exchanged?

Secondly, a huge part of the appeal of this hobby is that not all sessions will be the same; when some sessions turn out to be super hot when you were least expecting them, it is such a pleasant thing to happen. Truly a life of chocolate box. If every session mechanically ticked off every box, it is no more appealing than every single meal one eats being filet mignon.

I think the obsession to avoid "mistakes" by which they mean not so great sessions, is a huge mistake in itself. Instead of truly imbibing the whole sexual milieu, one is constantly worried about avoiding mistakes and not truly appreciative of how good it is to be living this monger life.[/QUOTE]+1.

Very true. I think this is definitely a lesson from the last few days. Not every session is going to be mind-blowing and going in with too high expectations will perhaps make it both harder on the girl and on the customer.

Nevertheless, I think certain guidelines do help not falling into deeper disappointments over and over again. Asking in advance, moving to the next politely if necessary.

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[QUOTE=Kossy;2209274]I am looking to visit an FKK club, like sharks, the first time this week.

Advice from the experienced punters: would you take any precautions for your first visit (HPV / Heptatitis vaccine for example)?[/QUOTE]Use condoms for intercourse and if the girl has tongue or lip piercing, use condom for BJ as well. Some diseases can be transmitted just via cross-contacts without the need of sexual contacts. Cranberry juice / extracts seem to have a slight effect to prevent some bacterial infections, but do not rely on it completely. Play safe and, if you are in a relationship, get tested after your visit.

Rock.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2209680]If a guy has been mongering for a long enough time, he should be able to pick up non verbal cues. Unless he is tone deaf. Not everything can be negotiated, contracted, and properly enforced. If she promises kissing, does the negotiation further stipulate the amount of tongue insertion, the length of time that tongues will twist around each other, and the ounces of saliva exchanged?

Secondly, a huge part of the appeal of this hobby is that not all sessions will be the same; when some sessions turn out to be super hot when you were least expecting them, it is such a pleasant thing to happen. Truly a life of chocolate box. If every session mechanically ticked off every box, it is no more appealing than every single meal one eats being filet mignon.

I think the obsession to avoid "mistakes" by which they mean not so great sessions, is a huge mistake in itself. Instead of truly imbibing the whole sexual milieu, one is constantly worried about avoiding mistakes and not truly appreciative of how good it is to be living this monger life.[/QUOTE]Great post and indeed very true. However I think it highlights again the difference in approach / requirements between those who are fortunate enough to live, or work in Germany and frequent FKKs and those of us who maybe only make it to them 5/6 times a year or less. Take the fillet mignon analogy. If you only eat out once every 3 months you want each of those meals to be amazing. If you eat out 4 times every week I agree that it would be very boring if all the meals were of an incredible standard! Strange to think this means it's good to get a bad meal! Hence when I get chance to visit FKKs (upcoming trip this week), I look forward to it so much that I really want some mignon / great sessions! I don't mind a bad starter, or an entree that doesn't hit every spot. But I do want at least one main course to blow my socks off! If I was able to attend very frequently I suspect I wouldn't be too concerned about trying several courses and being disappointed occasionally.

I think the critical point is management of expectation. If we go expecting great sessions all the time we are bound to be disappointed. Experienced mongers know that you will get some terrible sessions, some very average, some that you know will be good because you know the girl well, and others, as you say, that are a fabulous surprise.

In Austria we would call this "Das Wort zum Sonntag". Just Kissing, I couldn't agree more and recommend to not over think and over organize things even if it is your sole visit per year. I learned that trying to super optimize a trip will have its downsides and disappointments each and every time.

Landed and headed staright to 43 Elbe House, had an average experience for 25€ ,then headed to FKK Shark in the noon. Pretty dull in terms of business and about 30 girls were available, mostly Romanian. Later it did pick up and the number of girls increased, I went with Christina first and asked for an hour service which included everything at 100 €. She was amazing and we did it in the outside pool area. Later got a couple of beers and again tried Bella, a gypsy who was also amazing for the same cost. Thank you guys for writing reviews here, it really reduces the hassle to bargain for every service, the best way is to go for an hour and negotiate for everything in the process, services included Kissing, OWO, Sex and CIM too. As the others said getting good service all the time is just a gamble, maybe I was lucky today!

[QUOTE=MonSooner;2209786]Just Kissing.[/QUOTE]Was supposed to write JUST KIDDING.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2209221]At Sharks? Never had problems with Hells there. We may not be on same type of girls. Also never had problems at World when I was there every week end.[/QUOTE]Never had any problems either. Was just answering your question.

Flyte137,

So you stayed for one hour with CIM for 100?

[QUOTE=RockyV;2209754]Use condoms for intercourse and if the girl has tongue or lip piercing, use condom for BJ as well. Some diseases can be transmitted just via cross-contacts without the need of sexual contacts. Cranberry juice / extracts seem to have a slight effect to prevent some bacterial infections, but do not rely on it completely. Play safe and, if you are in a relationship, get tested after your visit.

Rock.[/QUOTE]For sure, more safe to use condom for sex, but I should have caught really bad things with Megan tongue piercing, for our many rooms at Mainhattan, Sharks and Globe, with DFK and BBBJ, but never had problems with her. When she started at Sharks, she was a little bit shy and not so busy, a guy asked her to put off her piercing on tongue to suck him, she did, I told her to refuse on future, she never hurt me.

Would be good point, FKK serve cranberries which is energetic drink.

[QUOTE=Ulver;2209931]Flyte137,

So you stayed for one hour with CIM for 100?[/QUOTE]I will never try to negotiate Arabian market sex with girls because it would kill my desire, but 100 for 1 hour with CIM is a good negotiation.

On my June and July visits, I noticed a quite slow business at Sharks.

I'm planning a week long trip to Sharks or other FKKs. Can someone recommend a hotel near Sharks? Thanks!

[QUOTE=Ulver;2209930]Never had any problems either. Was just answering your question.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your answer. I was used to see many Hells at World, but I didn't notice many at Sharks.

Yes, for an hour with each girl.

[QUOTE=Ulver;2209931]Flyte137,

So you stayed for one hour with CIM for 100?[/QUOTE]

I apologize, this post is a month overdue, so it's probably not useful for those looking for up-to-date info, but should provide newbies an idea of what to expect.

Let me start this by saying that everything I knew about mongering up to this point was absolutely ruined by this trip to Sharks. The bar has been set so unrealistically high, that I will most likely never hobby in the States or Canada again. This trip almost didn't happen as all odds seemed to keep stacking against me. The main reason I was in Europe is to attend a friend's wedding in Greece. Two weeks prior to leaving, a family member drops the bomb that she is now attending, and planning to meet up with me wherever I am, prior to the event. My week-long bender thus turned into a lone weekend. My flight out of the States was delayed due to rain and lightning, and so I missed my flight out of Reykjavik. After getting the run-around by WOW Air for 5 hours, they finally told me I had to stay in Iceland overnight, conveniently after the last flight to Frankfurt left. I almost scrapped the trip and thought about flying to Amsterdam earlier than planned to salvage something together. Thankfully, I didn't do that.

The next day, I land in Frankfurt, bus to Darmstadt, walk to Hotel Contel, check in, pick up a few outlet adapters at the hardware store on the way, and March my happy ass down the way to Sharks. The time is 2:45 pm on Saturday afternoon. The second I walked into the main room, my jaw dropped and continued to stay that way for the first hour of me getting acquainted with everything that is the FKK experience. I know there are FKK virgins out there reading this thread, trying to figure out whether the trip to Germany is worth it or not (I was one of them). Do yourself a huge favor, stop reading, and book a flight.

Preface, I am 100% for lack of better terms, what the veterans and girls would call a panda. I am however, a different variety of eastern bear, being a fairly sturdy 220 pounds and from the USA. In any case, these Shark girls could definitely still smell the soy sauce in the water. I was approached many times by hunters, but held my ground. I can't estimate how many girls were working, but there was plenty or talent. Eventually found my way to a table outside in front of the patio room with all the TVs. Lit up a cigar and watched the Brits play while scoping it out. Halfway through the cigar, I am approached by a blonde and her brunette friend proposing a threesome. I figure they both hunt Asians, as I watched them selectively bounce around from one group of them to another. I wasn't into her friend, but the blonde was mostly my type. If it happens to be a bad session, I'll take my "L" early, and my day can only get better. Game on.

Bianca / blonde / Rom?/ mirror room (50 euro, basic session) - immediately upon dropping towel, she comments that she expected me to be smaller (wtf) and to take it easy (again, wtf). Suspicions confirmed, she hunts endangered species. BBBJ given right off the bat, not too shabby. I ask her to continue for a bit longer than usual, and she goes on until I'm satisfied. I ask her to get on top, but she says she can't do that right now (whatever that means). To avoid her telling other girls that I am an asshole, I end up not pressing the issue and suggest doggie, to which she assumes position immediately. In retribution for skipping cowgirl, I give her a dozen slow courtesy strokes, then prop a leg up and start pounding away. Not even 10 seconds into it, she puts a hand up and asks me to please slow down. Annoyed, I do so, but eventually find my way back to pound town. She stops me again, and gives her reason that she still needs to see other guys after me. Poor excuse, as I'm positive there are German dudes in the garden slinging sausage way bigger than my mine. I turn her side saddle, and take it easy for a bit, which was still nice. Switch to missionary and start driving into her, to which she stops me yet again. At this point, I'm disinterested (not terribly upset though) and suggest ending the session, to which she suggests finishing me with her mouth. Who doesn't like a good, spirited blowjob? Try as she might, she couldn't finish the job and I stopped her after after a few minutes. Repeat? Probably not, but definitely not even close to the worst mongering session I've ever had.

Not even slightly upset, I go back outside and light up another cigar. I end up sitting down and chatting with a German fellow who is also smoking a fat one. We swap stories, he fills me in on his favorite clubs, and we talk German cars until the girl he has been looking for finds him. Puts out his cigar and off he goes. I do a round about the main room and after turning down a few girls, I am approached by a guy offering his services. I readily accept. Massage obviously. I ask for gusto and he obliges. Deep tissue, hot stones, the works. Feeling good, I shower off the oil and look for my next target. There is a pretty brunette wearing a garter and stockings walking around. As I make my way towards her, another guy enters from stage left and gets to her before I could. I make a mental note for later and keep on the hunt. I spot a brunette / blonde highlights with glasses sitting by herself on the couch facing the stairs up to the hot tubs. She flags me down and we start chatting it up. She's cute and a pleasure to talk to, so sure, let's do a room.

Unknown / Bru-blo / Italian / one of the rooms past the massage corridor (100 euros, basic + CIM, 45 min) - guys, please help me out (and others that may be able to enjoy her services in the future). I had such a good time, I completely forgot her name. She claims to be from Crimini, Italy and I believe she said she was 21. She is shorter, with just a small bit of weight around the mid section. Very nice, large, and soft rack, that I honestly didn't even think about if they were fake or not. Unlike Bianca, she was game to do anything I wanted to. No upsell, no pouting. Again, BBBJ without asking. She went through every position I could think of enthusiastically, made all the right noises and said all the dirty things my perverted ears love hearing. About 30 minutes in, we we're still at it, and I asked if she wanted to continue and add 50 for CIM. She happily said yes and we kept going. We make our way into reverse cowgirl and after a few minutes, I tell her that I am close. She flips around, rips the wrapper off, and begins to go after the finish. I give her the signal, and begin unloading my won tons. She keeps sucking, but after 2 pumps, she begins to choke from the velocity of said projectiles. She turns around, coughs a few times and tries to come back and finish, coughing and choking some more. What a champ. I apologise profusely and actually feel bad about it. I popped a chubby just reliving the session while writing this paragraph. I tried looking for her after showering to get her name, but didn't see her for the rest of the night. Again, much appreciated if anyone may have an idea of who this gem is.

Head back into the garden to light up another stick. A fellow panda sits down with me and we talk about how crazy this place is. He was at Oase the night before and was trying to get me to go with him the next day. I thought about it, but it would make me miss my flight and hotel in Amsterdam that day. We grab some food, which I expected to be terrible from reading the reviews, but was pleasantly surprised. We finish up and start to watch the pre-show for the Russia v Croatia match. Again, the girl he was searching for earlier shows up, and I am left to my own devices. I go to grab a piece of the chocolate cake they have at the buffet, and a coffee at the bar to bunker down and enjoy the game. I head to the bar and find the brunette in lingerie from earlier. Wasn't going to waste the opportunity, so I abandon cake and set sail for booty.

Grazziella (SP? Brunette / rom / upstairs (50 euro, basic) - again, a nice BBBJ occurred, this time, with her asking what I preferred. Good DT and all the licking and flicking a guy could want. Asked just once if I had anything extra in mind, which I declined. A bunch of different positions as hard as I could give it, until I was completely exhausted. Again, like the previous unnamed Italian girl, no unnatural moans; just music to my ears. As I lie there catching my breathe, she gets up and I goes to hands and BBBJ. I commend a go-getter. Finish in her hands and was quite content. Would cum again.

Back to the Garden. This Russia v Croatia game is not looking good for a dramatic England v Russia meeting. I once again light a cigar and start to watch the craziness unfold. A French guy comes around and his Tunisian friend joins us in-between sessions. I end up talking to them for hours, as they were stand-up, classy fellas, full of good info and stories. He knows quite a few of you ISGers and name-dropped the usual suspects I see around here, so I knew it was real. If you're reading this buddy, I will definitely hit you up when I am in town next.

By now, that crazy match was long over and it was time to find my next target. I spot a blonde walking around with a leather strap get-up (there were two walking around, this one had the visible surgery marks on her stomach). Big bolt-ons, bleached blond, full lips; everything I ever brought up on the boob tube when searching for porn during my younger years. She sees me looking and knows I'm locked in. She walks up and introduces herself. I do as well, ask for what I want, and start walking for the nearest room before she even agrees.

Rosé/ blonde / rom / one of the rooms left of bar (50 euros, basic) - No foreplay like the other girls. She immediately goes into the best blowjob I've ever received, BBBJ of course. Spit everywhere, licking the dumplings, DT like her life was on the line. She forced it down as far as she could go, sometimes almost forcefully to the point I thought she might hurt herself. She was doing everything as well as I could ever ask for. Then, it takes a nasty turn. She could not get past selling me CIM. To the point that I became disinterested during sex and just said I couldn't finish and got off the bed. She tries to make up for it by offering to blow me again, but I wasn't going to hear her upsell again. I don't make too big a deal about it, but I was pretty bummed, especially with how good the head was. Though I have to wonder, if all it took was another 50 euros, I could have potentially had another incredible session. If the BJ wasn't so good, I would not repeat. But that was some Oscar-winning pole-smoking.

If you're counting, I am officially out of cigars at this point. I go back to the outdoor bar for the last steak off the grill that night. It's got to be somewhere between 1 or 2 at this point. I sit down and join two other American pandas on the outdoor barstools. They just arrived not too long ago from a layover and wanted to see what the fuss was. I fill them in with a bunch of the invaluable information and tips I've picked up from you folks over the past few months and watch them go to work. The number of stunners had gone down, and continued to keep that trend as all the other guys caught on that it was time to grab and go. I keep looking at a naturally pretty brunette who has a glazed look in her eyes as she smokes cigarettes. I couldn't get a read off of her, as she almost seemed pissed. Not what I needed; I'm tired, but looking for just one more pop. There is another naturally pretty brunette with long, loose curls standing at the bar. I don't beat around the Bush, I just say let's go to a room.

Alisha / brunette / rom?/ upstairs (50 euros, basic) - we walk in, and I say, " I'll make it simple, 50 euros, no upsell, do whatever you can to make me go. " She comments that no one had taken her to Greece yet that day and I could be the first to set foot on land. Doing that to the girl next door was an extremely nice image in my head, but I was just too tired to put any proper effort in on my end. Alas, I decline. Another unprompted BBBJ, mixed with some good, teasing hand action. If I were a monk, I would specialize in the way of the iron crank, as I had a hard time busting, despite the jaw and arm workout she was going through. I had her take a quick intermission. We small talk a little and she gives it a second go. This time, she is successful, and I blow all over her chest while she jerked me to a final mind-numbing completion. Would repeat and would also like to sail around the Santorini caldera with her one day.

And with Alisha in the books, I collect my belongings and head back to Hotel Contel. It is a little past 3 now and I am beat. I end up heading back the next day to just enjoy the facilities before my flight. I wasn't planning on getting another session in being tired and sore from the night before. I saw Rosé and caved in, thinking about the BBJ from the night before. I walk up to her and she immediately says, "I know what you want. " We disappear to the same room from the night before towards the back of the bar. 20 minutes of an A+ BBJ and I finish all over her chest for 50. My time here is now done. By the time I'm done showering, it's getting a little to close to comfort, so I fetch a cab direct to the airport. And that's where I end my tale.

Now. The reason I haven't made this post until now is due to the fact that 2 days later when I was in Amsterdam, I noticed burning, discharge, and all the terrible symptoms one could fear for after participating in these types of activities. I cut my AMS trip short and flew into Santorini a day early to take advantage of their very liberal pharmacies. Truth be told, I probably went overkill with the antibiotics, but being the first time I've ever experienced this, I wanted to be sure. In any case, I got tested when I got back and sure enough, when the good doctor called, I still had traces of the usual STDs. Shot in the ass, more meds, plus blood test (can never be too sure) this time. I'm clean now, but wow, what a nightmare of a few weeks that was.

Short, sweet and to the point (unlike this entire post), this was one of the best times I've had in a long time. I would highly recommend, and encourage you to use your best judgement when it comes to safety. Thanks for reading (if you've made it this far) and be safe.

[QUOTE=BootyJuice;2210033]I'm planning a week long trip to Sharks or other FKKs. Can someone recommend a hotel near Sharks? Thanks![/QUOTE]Hotel Contel is right down the same street.

[QUOTE=BootyJuice;2210033]I'm planning a week long trip to Sharks or other FKKs. Can someone recommend a hotel near Sharks? Thanks![/QUOTE]Invariably I stay at Maritim Hotel adjacent to Darmstadt HBF.

30 minute walk or 10 euros taxi ride from Sharks.

Rooms are good enough and two bars close by in the station area for a few beers later on away from the sex workers.

Expect to pay about 80 euros per night Fri, Sat and Sundays. Weekdays a bit more.

[URL]https://www.maritim.com/en/hotels/germany/hotel-darmstadt/hotel-overview?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI0PLt0-7d3AIV7ZztCh0stwGsEAAYAyAAEgI92_D_BwE[/URL]

[QUOTE=BootyJuice;2210033]I'm planning a week long trip to Sharks or other FKKs. Can someone recommend a hotel near Sharks? Thanks![/QUOTE]Ibis Budget and be&be in Darmstadt. Hotel Contel very close, less than 5 mn walking to Sharks.

Ended up at the same place and had a great time. First went with Carolina, Romanian who was amazing and ready for great service for €100 for 30 min with CIM. Post which rested a bit and took 2 Romanians for a threesome, unable to recall the names, they we're also amazing and charged the same. Finally was about to head out and meet Leena a German who gave a great massage and sex for the same price for an hour. It's been an amazing time here, the code is to just negotiate on an hourly price and then the services offered later. Sharks is the place to try for sure👍. By the way was charged 65€ at entry yesterday, today it was 50€.

[QUOTE=Flyte137;2210242]Ended up at the same place and had a great time. First went with Carolina, Romanian who was amazing and ready for great service for 100 for 30 min with CIM. Post which rested a bit and took 2 Romanians for a threesome, unable to recall the names, they we're also amazing and charged the same. Finally was about to head out and meet Leena a German who gave a great massage and sex for the same price for an hour. It's been an amazing time here, the code is to just negotiate on an hourly price and then the services offered later. Sharks is the place to try for sure👍. By the way was charged 65 at entry yesterday, today it was 50.[/QUOTE]Wednesday and Sunday before 2 pm are 50 € entry.

30 mn with CIM normal rate is 100, 1 hour with CIM should be asked 150.1 hour normal rate is 100.

Is your German Lena blond? Maybe she is back?

I entered around 4 pm, was still charged €50. Yes she is blonde and said she is from Dusseldorf works mostly on weekends and comes once a while nowadays.

As you rightly said, if one budgets 100, you normally get everything, if you treat the girl well. There were a few snobbish ones though, let them be to themselves, they were better off that way.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2210255]Wednesday and Sunday before 2 pm are 50 entry.

30 mn with CIM normal rate is 100, 1 hour with CIM should be asked 150.1 hour normal rate is 100.

Is your German Lena blond? Maybe she is back?[/QUOTE]

Wow. That's a darned good report. Hope you stick around, go back to the pleasure land and come back to us with more such reports.

Sorry about your STD travails and glad to hear you cleared up. You did not partake too many sessions, and unless you had been mongering heavily in some other places that could have caused it, seems like the list of suspects that gave it to you appears to be a short one.

Can I get a LU update?

Are Mandy, Livania, Hellis, Angelika there?

[QUOTE=PuntTheWorld2;2210148]I apologize, this post is a month overdue, so it's probably not useful for those looking for up-to-date info, but should provide newbies an idea of what to expect.

Let me start this by saying that everything I knew about mongering up to this point was absolutely ruined by this trip to Sharks. The bar has been set so unrealistically high, that I will most likely never hobby in the States or Canada again. This trip almost didn't happen as all odds seemed to keep stacking against me. The main reason I was in Europe is to attend a friend's wedding in Greece. Two weeks prior to leaving, a family member drops the bomb that she is now attending, and planning to meet up with me wherever I am, prior to the event. My week-long bender thus turned into a lone weekend. My flight out of the States was delayed due to rain and lightning, and so I missed my flight out of Reykjavik..[/QUOTE]So wear a condom when BJ. Who do you think gave you std? Prob from BBBJ.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2210270]... seems like the list of suspects that gave it to you appears to be a short one.[/QUOTE]Well, it was unlikely to be from Bianca. In my sessions with her, she was always so careful that the sessions seemed sterile in feelings. But I just cannot resist the optifuck, and end up with her now and then.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2210194]Ibis Budget and be&be in Darmstadt. Hotel Contel very close, less than 5 mn walking to Sharks.[/QUOTE]How do you like the IBIS Budget Hotel? Friend of mine is going to be staying there soon for a few days.

[QUOTE=Flyte137;2210262]I entered around 4 pm, was still charged 50. Yes she is blonde and said she is from Dusseldorf works mostly on weekends and comes once a while nowadays.

As you rightly said, if one budgets 100, you normally get everything, if you treat the girl well. There were a few snobbish ones though, let them be to themselves, they were better off that way.[/QUOTE]I meant whole Wednesday and Sunday before 2 pm are 50 € for entry. On Monday, you get a 20 € discount ticket for Tuesday or Monday. Each Monday, they give you same ticket.

Don't seem to be same German Lena. I think to remember she was from Koln and working on weekdays.

100 for 1 hour is a good standard at Sharks, for DFK, BBBJ, DATY and sex. Usually CIM is not included, but sometimes girls who will to please back, forget extras, but they may ask more expensive to tourists.

Quite slow business now at Sharks, not big upselling compare to Oase where girls can cry about lack of business, when they make clients run away, after fucking them, I mean many Oase girls trying to upsell clients, and most often for very average woman level in bed, compare to GT or few woman types at Sharks, I don't even compare with Globe.

Bad luck for panda for his first FKK visit, maybe kind of chlamydia, but if using condom to fuck, FKK are quite safe. Of course, 3 or 4 times per year, I have throat ache I should not have if I went in my mountains, but no other problems after I think more than 600 days in FKK land and more than 1000 rooms, but usually with same girls, and I don t go with what I think to be low level girls. I prefer a bit exclusive and not hunting girls with perfect hygiene.

[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2210341]How do you like the IBIS Budget Hotel? Friend of mine is going to be staying there soon for a few days.[/QUOTE]I just gave advices for cheap hotels around Sharks, also B&B and Contel which is the closest.

I don t know the one in Darmstadt, but I know some in France and they are all on same level. Accor group improved level and for me it s OK just to sleep, small room, but large bed is OK, shower is OK. No swimming pool, no fitness, no haircut, average breakfast, but can have good breakfast with salmon at Sharks at 11 am.

When I succeed to find good girls, one top girl is even enough for me, I prefer to stay in clubs from opening to the end, better show in clubs than on TV, except ski or Formula 1, but blondie plays for me at Sharks. Unfortunately, quite often I'm bored and exhausted not to find a attractive girl, a bit difficult for my eyes to find attractive beauties, I found one at Sharks on mid June, a real top girl for me, even I had to work to make her improve, but she didn't want to stay for everything for 50 € , business, she was not motivated for this level of business, so I didn't advice her Globe because Swiss would have been too difficult for her, as she said: not many take time to treat girls like woman, but after YamaYama her for each of our 3 rooms, she really wanted to please back, and seemed happy I finished on our third, when I didn't on our second. Maybe I shouldn't finish, then I could have a next time. Wish her to enjoy more Ibiza and escorting.

[QUOTE=PuntTheWorld2;2210148]..........................Bianca / blonde / Rom?/ mirror room (50 euro, basic session) - immediately upon dropping towel, she comments that she expected me to be smaller (wtf) and to take it easy (again, wtf). Suspicions confirmed, she hunts endangered species. BBBJ given right off the bat, not too shabby. I ask her to continue for a bit longer than usual, and she goes on until I'm satisfied. I ask her to get on top, but she says she can't do that right now (whatever that means). To avoid her telling other girls that I am an asshole, I end up not pressing the issue and suggest doggie, to which she assumes position immediately. In retribution for skipping cowgirl, I give her a dozen slow courtesy strokes, then prop a leg up and start pounding away. Not even 10 seconds into it, she puts a hand up and asks me to please slow down. Annoyed, I do so, but eventually find my way back to pound town. She stops me again, and gives her reason that she still needs to see other guys after me. Poor excuse, as I'm positive there are German dudes in the garden slinging sausage way bigger than my mine. I turn her side saddle, and take it easy for a bit, which was still nice. Switch to missionary and start driving into her, to which she stops me yet again. At this point, I'm disinterested (not terribly upset though) and suggest ending the session, to which she suggests finishing me with her mouth. Who doesn't like a good, spirited blowjob? Try as she might, she couldn't finish the job and I stopped her after after a few minutes. Repeat? Probably not, but definitely not even close to the worst mongering session I've ever had...................[/QUOTE]"gives her reason that she still needs to see other guys after me". WTF!!! This would be an instant boner killer for me. I have difficulty sessioning women who do not like sex. Part of the enjoyment for me is knowing that the woman is enjoying it too. This is one of the reasons why I scrupulously avoid the Asian hunters.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2210255].............Is your German Lena blond? Maybe she is back?[/QUOTE]I have not seen Lena, I wish she were back. I think he means ample derriered Leah (De) who gives great service.

[QUOTE=Triptogamont;2204933]The sign on the wall explicitly states that you get 1 STD for 70 Euro.[/QUOTE]Forgot to add that another reason why PuntThe World probably did not catch it from Bianca is that for my 100 Euros, I usually get only 50-55 minutes, and not 1 Std.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2210352] I have difficulty sessioning women who do not like sex. Part of the enjoyment for me is knowing that the woman is enjoying it too. This is one of the reasons why I scrupulously avoid the Asian hunters.[/QUOTE]To be fair, I don't believe that Asian hunters are less likely to enjoy sex than the Asian non-hunters. (Unless the implication is that it is simply impossible for girls to enjoy sex with Asian men). Yama Yama seems to be sessioning with a boatload of Asian hunters every trip, and they in turn seem to have a tanker load of orgasms in every session. He is not the only one, many other guys have reported over the years of sessions in which these Asian hunters enjoyed sex and even had the big O. Only god and the woman knows when she actually has an orgasm, but in my view these Asian hunters fake the big shake as well as any non hunter.

Also, a different topic but I think any girl, or most girls at least, would love to be Asian hunter in Sharks and Oase. To the extent the term Asian hunter implies going after tourists who are unaware of prices and likely to overpay, not put too much burden on the girl in terms of sexual thrust, and be polite and partake easy extras like CIM, finish fast and tip generously - why would any girl not want these things? If a girl is not an Asian hunter, it is not due to lack of desire but due to lack of ability. The stereotype is that Asians go after specific body types (smaller rather than larger, pale skin, preferably blonde, young rather than MILf, fresh faced, optiflcks overall) and if a girl is outside this spec, she is out of luck in her quest to become an Asian hunter. IMHO.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2210373]To be fair, I don't believe that Asian hunters are...[/QUOTE]One of the best replies I read so far on this board. Yes, only the women themselves know whether a real orgasm happened. We as paying guests enjoy both illusion and our wishful thinking that illusion may become reality. Sure, sometimes it realy may happen. Jnpr30 is also right concerning Asian hunters. It's the Asian guys who also follow their illusion when conquering a German club. And some girls won't fit in their scheme. In Sharks you may know Steffi and Francesca sitting close together at the bar. Steffi attracts the Asian guys but Francesca rather not. The male brain cinema builds up its own movies.

[QUOTE=PuntTheWorld2;2210148]I apologize, this post is a month overdue, so it's probably not useful for those looking for up-to-date info, but should provide newbies an idea of what to expect.

Let me start this by saying that everything I knew about mongering up to this point was absolutely ruined by this trip to Sharks. The bar has been set so unrealistically high, that I will most likely never hobby in the States or Canada again. This trip almost didn't happen as all odds seemed to keep stacking against me. The main reason I was in Europe is to attend a friend's wedding in Greece. Two weeks prior to leaving, a family member drops the bomb that she is now attending, and planning to meet up with me wherever I am, prior to the event. My week-long bender thus turned into a lone weekend. My flight out of the States was delayed due to rain and lightning, and so I missed my flight out of Reykjavik. After getting the run-around by WOW Air for 5 hours, they finally told me I had to stay in Iceland overnight, conveniently after the last flight to Frankfurt left. I almost scrapped the trip and thought about flying to Amsterdam earlier than planned to salvage something together. Thankfully, I didn't do that.

The next day, I land in Frankfurt, bus to Darmstadt, walk to Hotel Contel, check in, pick up a few outlet adapters at the hardware store on the way, and March my happy ass down the way to Sharks. The time is 2:45 pm on Saturday afternoon. The second I walked into the main room, my jaw dropped and continued to stay that way for the first hour of me getting acquainted with everything that is the FKK experience. I know there are FKK virgins out there reading this thread, trying to figure out whether the trip to Germany is worth it or not (I was one of them). Do yourself a huge favor, stop reading, and book a flight..[/QUOTE]Great report! Very entertaining!

Also, there's a reason why WOW offers ridiculously cheap airfare. You get what you pay for!

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2210361]Forgot to add that another reason why PuntThe World probably did not catch it from Bianca is that for my 100 Euros, I usually get only 50-55 minutes, and not 1 Std.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Triptogamont;2204933]The sign on the wall explicitly states that you get 1 STD for 70 Euro.[/QUOTE]Here is the actual ' full' sign from it's original post. States all the specs. FYI the sign was removed the last two trips, they took it down at least temporarily for two reasons of which neither were related to the gifts one receives in a standard hour.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2176846]
While on the subject of diseases, take note of the sign tomorrow on the wall next to the sausages. We do not go to the room with the Gypsies for an hour. We can not get any diseases from them. It is safe to fuck a Gypsy for short sessions. That board clearly states that 20 min is 30 e, 30 min is 40 e and beneath that it reads ' std' 70 e. I take that to mean that ' alles gut' as to the non-contraction of an std if we do not see them for 70 e sessions.[/QUOTE]Specifically the safety of Gypsies in 20 and 30 min sessions for 30 e /40 e. Impossible to catch anything. The STD can only be purchased for a payment of exactly 70 e and even the Gypsies will cut hours to a few minutes short like 50-55 minutes. But you paid this Bianca 100 Euros, although she cut your time short a few minutes she gave you a hall pass on the STD as you did not pay her 70. Paying up saved you a trip to the pharmacy. It is a good thing you did not do a 50 session and a 20 tip with her or you might have got that STD for the grand total of 70 and brought some presents up to World from the Sharks which might be potentially bad for me on my upcoming trip, please go make sure those girls in Geissen are clean.

PunttheWorld, great review and entertaining as as JNPR said glad it all cleared up although it could have come from anywhere. It looks like you did a 50 with Bianca, a few 50's actually, did you tip any of them exactly 20 Euros for a grand total of a 70 e donation?? If so we have your culprit! Whoever you handed 70 to would be the guilty one.

I once read the Sharks do not have enough showers / bidets, I really wish they would start vashing properly down there, even in the Day Care centers the girls are taught proper hygiene from Alice, perhaps a guest ' vasher' is needed to send down to Darmstadt to lecture these girls. The last thing I want is some Sharks regular getting an STD down there, coming up to Dietzenbach, and potentially dirtying up my wives! As it is now they make proper use of the bidet, the clients properly vash them at the end of the 30 min sessions and we deposit natural and 100 percent organic cleansing agents that do not fuck up the Ph balances of their vaginas (too many condoms can lead to stinky pussy after too many guys).

I don't want my Gypsies dirtied up by guys from Sharks and other places screwing dirty women than driving to Dietz!

[QUOTE=CityBox;2210304]So wear a condom when BJ. Who do you think gave you std? Prob from BBBJ.[/QUOTE]Not only via BBJ. Three of the most common ST bacterial infections can be transmitted only via cross-contact, such as when girls apply lube on their vagina and then touch your happy rod! In order to avoid a big outbreak maybe it is best to let Sharks management know?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2210352]"gives her reason that she still needs to see other guys after me". WTF!!! This would be an instant boner killer for me. I have difficulty sessioning women who do not like sex. Part of the enjoyment for me is knowing that the woman is enjoying it too. This is one of the reasons why I scrupulously avoid the Asian hunters.[/QUOTE]I'd tend to agree. That being said, I went into this whole thing expecting to be burned at least once. I guess one of my flaws is being exceptionally optimistic. And all things considered, I didn't hate the session. Compared to service in the states, she was still more than acceptable.

[QUOTE=VitoCorleone;2210399]Great report! Very entertaining!

Also, there's a reason why WOW offers ridiculously cheap airfare. You get what you pay for![/QUOTE]Appreciate the kind words! For sure. I will consider other airlines next time. A guy I was talking to in the KEF airport mentioned Condor as a much better option. Direct flights into Frankfurt from the US, and reclining chair / beds anywhere from $500-800 bucks one way depending on the city. Looked myself and sure enough, $700. Depending on how the year goes with finances, I may take that up.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2210452]PunttheWorld, great review and entertaining as as JNPR said glad it all cleared up although it could have come from anywhere. It looks like you did a 50 with Bianca, a few 50's actually, did you tip any of them exactly 20 Euros for a grand total of a 70 e donation? If so we have your culprit! Whoever you handed 70 to would be the guilty one.

I don't want my Gypsies dirtied up by guys from Sharks and other places screwing dirty women than driving to Dietz![/QUOTE]LOL, that's too good. Maybe one day I will try my luck at Dietz. Of course, I won't go to Sharks first. Just in case!

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2210342]Bad luck for panda for his first FKK visit, maybe kind of chlamydia, but if using condom to fuck, FKK are quite safe. Of course, 3 or 4 times per year, I have throat ache I should not have if I went in my mountains, but no other problems after I think more than 600 days in FKK land and more than 1000 rooms, but usually with same girls, and I don t go with what I think to be low level girls. I prefer a bit exclusive and not hunting girls with perfect hygiene.[/QUOTE]I can appreciate that. I indulged in BBBJ, but covered for all the other good stuff. The French guy I brought up in the report specifically mentioned you and said you were legendary.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2210327]Well, it was unlikely to be from Bianca. In my sessions with her, she was always so careful that the sessions seemed sterile in feelings. But I just cannot resist the optifuck, and end up with her now and then.[/QUOTE]Amen. Definitely checked most all boxes for me in my book. I bought her a red bull later on in the day and BSed with her a little bit. Didn't hate her personality. In her defense, I forgot to mention that she came back later in the night proposing another go, and this time it was no-holds, as she was going to leave soon. I passed to sample other goods.

[QUOTE=CityBox;2210304]So wear a condom when BJ. Who do you think gave you std? Prob from BBBJ.[/QUOTE]Lesson learned. As much as I appreciate a good BBBJ, GnC is not a store that I'd like to shop at again. I honestly have no clue who may have passed it to me. Bad form on my end.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2210270]Wow. That's a darned good report. Hope you stick around, go back to the pleasure land and come back to us with more such reports.

Sorry about your STD travails and glad to hear you cleared up. You did not partake too many sessions, and unless you had been mongering heavily in some other places that could have caused it, seems like the list of suspects that gave it to you appears to be a short one.[/QUOTE]Thank you sir. After reading reports that pros like you have made in the past, I had to try and step it up. I will for sure make it back again.

[QUOTE=PuntTheWorld2;2210619]Appreciate the kind words! For sure. I will consider other airlines next time. A guy I was talking to in the KEF airport mentioned Condor as a much better option. Direct flights into Frankfurt from the US, and reclining chair / beds anywhere from $500-800 bucks one way depending on the city. Looked myself and sure enough, $700. Depending on how the year goes with finances, I may take that up.
[/QUOTE]Why would you consider that instead of Norwegian air to Copenhagen. And from Copenhagen you can transfer cheaply to cologne for example with ryanair. Return trip at sometimes less than 300 usd. From maybe 10 us destinations. At least in low season. Plus 200 usd in high season if you book at the right time.

This report is aimed at the less experienced or those that have not attended Sharks before so a warning to regulars that you may learn very little from a rather long report.

This was my first Sharks visit so for those that have never visited I thought I would base this report in comparison to Artemis where I've visited several times.

The ease of travelling to the venue:

From Tepal Airport I take a taxi direct to Artemis for around 20.

From Frankfurt Airport I took the Airliner bus 8. 70 to Darmstadt Station then taxi to Sharks 10. Both very easy journeys.

The actual venue:

My main problem with Sharks which is a big one is there is no Kino, I really missed it as I've had a lot of action at Artemis in both their Kinos. I think Artemis Club is classier but Sharks is more spacious, relaxing with a cheaper entrance fee.

The L / U:

I've already mentioned the poor LU at Sharks in the conclusion section but it was a Tuesday, not the best of days to attend! The biggest and surprising difference I found was that not many of the ladies made the initial approach compared to Artemis where (not to everyone's liking) the ladies come to you on a regular basis.

The Action:

It was a first for me, I only saw three ladies when usually it's anything from 5-8 ladies with the reason being I was underwhelmed by the LU.

However although the three ladies were not stunners they all had smashing personalities when interviewed which ultimately produced two good sessions of 1.5 hrs & 2 hrs. The third was absolutely brilliant which lasted several hours.

The only problem I had with all three ladies who were all Romanian was their accents, I really struggled with the names, you can only say pardon so many times!

Ena: A brunette, shoulder length hair, slim, medium boobs with large bright eyes. She was one of the few ladies to approach me and after my stringent interview we spent some time in the whirlpool (which was empty). She was on fire and fully used her charms to get me into a room, she succeeded. Her oily B2B was indescribable, simply heaven. (I'm addicted to B2B when performed well & Ena was one of the best I've had!) Her oral skills were good, mixture of heavy & light kissing, very inventive with positions! As we were sweating buckets in the heat I gallantly gave her oral so she could have a breather, I didn't need to ask her if she was enjoying it as there was plenty of evidence. It was 100 per hour of which I had several. I would thoroughly recommend her.

Eydia: Not sure about the pronunciation but it started with "eye". She was another lovely girl, not a stunner but charming nevertheless. Small breasts, very trim, shortish dark blonde hair, very good at her job without being pushy so making it feel more natural (which it obviously isn't) Oral both ways, B2B, spanking, various positions, lots of kissing on mouth & all over my body. Again 100 per hour but she wanted an extra 50 for the B2B as I like LOTS of oil. Eydia didn't mix much with the other girls as some seem to be part of a cartel.

Back to Ena I also aquatinted myself with a friend of hers who I really can't remember the name (something like Ellena). She joined me and Ena for the last hour. Again dark hair, chatty, larger boobs than Ena, tall & slim, and very keen to impress. In fact after watching Ena doing B2B to me she demanded she have another go with me sensing quite correctly that Ena had performed better. However her oral was the best of all the ladies.

I don't always like duos because it's difficult to get everyone to gel with each other but on this occasion the chemistry really worked well.

The Facilities inside & out:

Sharks has a bigger bar area which helps alleviate the smoke which can be horrendous at Artemis. Sharks have better whirlpools, a bigger and nicer garden.

I didn't think the food at Sharks was great, barbecue was ok however it doesn't take much to beat Artemis, it's a dreadful standard.

Conclusion:

In hindsight it's slightly unfair to compare the two clubs based on a single visit to Sharks with approx five trips to Artemis. The LU at Sharks was IMO very poor. Full of Romanians with a very similar look & very few 9's or 10's if any at all. I'm not a great fan of the fake boob look at Artemis but their LU has never disappointed me and there is a variation in the LU. However in the room which really matters none of the ladies I saw at Sharks failed to disappoint at all.

When travelling back to the UK from Poland in 3 weeks time I will pop into Frankfurt again for two nights (Saturday & Sunday night) so I'm debating whether to give Sharks another go or visit a different Frankfurt club or return to Artemis. Decisions, decisions.

[QUOTE=PuntTheWorld2;2210619]I'd tend to agree. That being said, I went into this whole thing expecting to be burned at least once. I guess one of my flaws is being exceptionally optimistic. And all things considered, I didn't hate the session. Compared to service in the states, she was still more than acceptable.................[/QUOTE]Man, you are the real deal. We all have poor sessions in FKKs some time or the other; I try to minimize mine, its all fun.

Regarding STD, you were unlucky, I've never gotten infected in several hundreds of sessions in Europe and Latin America. My last bout was some years ago in Asia.

Hi all,

Long time reader first time poster, thanks everyone for their posts and updates, great reads & info!

Just curious if anyone has seen Amalia, Janine, Loretta or Helen lately? Thanks in advance.

Anybody knows if Cheyenne is there?

[QUOTE=PuntTheWorld2;2210148]I apologize, this post is a month overdue, so it's probably not useful for those looking for up-to-date info, but should provide newbies an idea of what to expect.

Let me start this by saying that everything I knew about mongering up to this point was absolutely ruined by this trip to Sharks. The bar has been set so unrealistically high, that I will most likely never hobby in the States or Canada again. This trip almost didn't happen as all odds seemed to keep stacking against me. The main reason I was in Europe is to attend a friend's wedding in Greece. Two weeks prior to leaving, a family member drops the bomb that she is now attending, and planning to meet up with me wherever I am, prior to the event. My week-long bender thus turned into a lone weekend. My flight out of the States was delayed due to rain and lightning, and so I missed my flight out of Reykjavik. After getting the run-around by WOW Air for 5 hours, they finally told me I had to stay in Iceland overnight, conveniently after the last flight to Frankfurt left. I almost scrapped the trip and thought about flying to Amsterdam earlier than planned to salvage something together..[/QUOTE]So, specifically, what STD did you have? And what antibiotic cleared it up? Thanks!

[QUOTE=FKKLife;2210855]Just curious if anyone has seen Amalia, Janine, Loretta or Helen lately? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Loretta and Helen were there yesterday!

[QUOTE=Danny227;2210930]Anybody knows if Cheyenne is there?[/QUOTE]Was not there yesterday.

[QUOTE=FKKLife;2210855]Hi all,

Long time reader first time poster, thanks everyone for their posts and updates, great reads & info!

Just curious if anyone has seen Amalia, Janine, Loretta or Helen lately? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Janine has quit.

Regarding STDs, I caught gonorrhea at sharks a couple of months ago. Must have gotten it from BBBJ. I don't know who gave it to me. I was with 5-6 different girls that trip. I have been with one of those girls many times since and another girl a couple of times without any problems.

[QUOTE=FKKLife;2210855]Just curious if anyone has seen Amalia, Janine, Loretta or Helen lately? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Janine has already left for good about a year ago.

[QUOTE=FKKLife;2210855]Hi all,

Long time reader first time poster, thanks everyone for their posts and updates, great reads & info!

Just curious if anyone has seen Amalia, Janine, Loretta or Helen lately? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Sexy Elen with not full shaved pussy, fishnet stockings, was at Sharks mid June. Not always busy, I saw her waiting sitting at the bar.

Elif was there, but not Amalia.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2211125]Janine has already left for good about a year ago.[/QUOTE]Loretta was there last weekend.

Arrived 4 pm yesterday. Sun shining, club already quite busy. Had 2 hours in the garden sunbathing, talking to some girls, enjoying the BBQ which started at 5 pm. Nothing quite like lying in the sun with a beer in hand watching some naked ladies parade by.

First session with Crystal. Dark hair. Said she was from Brescia in Italy but I suspect Romanian. I didn't care. Black hair, stockings and nets on arms, large naturals see / dees. Great fun. Had 90 minutes in the sado room upstairs. Had to wait. Rooms were hot of course but to be expected. Great service and great attitude.

Great massage from the Thai lady professionals. Lots of familiar faces from last visit. Ingrid (black hair, always wears basque) and her friend Carla. Stunning face but always looks miserable. Several new faces and there were at least 10 girls I would be happy to session with. And I consider myself picky. I'll never quite understand how girls can remember not only having rooms with you years ago but what you like! They are fucking thousands of guys yet they remember details. I'the love to know how. I cannot remember half of the girls I've been with. Unless they were exceptional. Sat at the bar and a pretty blonde starts talking to me. Melanie - with black glasses. Not normally my type but she was intelligent and we laughed a lot. Decided I would have a short time with her then come back for one dark brunette I really liked but who was constantly busy. We ended up in one of those cave rooms by the upstairs jacuzzis. Cramped but not too hot. Melanie's BBBJ was performed with consummate skill and the intended short time became an hour.

Another massage (to recover but fell asleep and the lady wakes me at 2. 20 am. Decided enough was enough and returned to Maritim in Darmstadt.

Another great trip to Sharks. Good options, good food and it remains my favourite club.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2211103]Was not there yesterday.[/QUOTE]Thanks, looks like she has been away for a good month or so.

[QUOTE=WilliamHuntley;2211029]So, specifically, what STD did you have? And what antibiotic cleared it up? THANKS![/QUOTE]Please do not take my post as qualified medical advice, as I am not a medical professional. I wanted to be sure when I was in Greece, so I took both Doxy (2 doses of 100 MG for 7 days) and Azithro (500 MG in one dose). Normally, I read that this would take care of it in most cases. My test still showed the clap when I got back, so I got a shot of Ceftriaxone and more Azithro.

Went with Elif and is always better choice, Amalia always complains as she is small but her BJ is good.

Still hot rooms. Saw new girl today, tall with pony tale interesting look, will provide more details.

[QUOTE=WilliamHuntley;2211029]So, specifically, what STD did you have? And what antibiotic cleared it up? THANKS![/QUOTE]Can you stop doing unnecessary full quotes?

Can anyone give more details on what Rose looks like or where she sits? I'll be out in two weeks and she is now on the top of my list. Next to Barbie.

I recently read a report on a french forum saying that Mina, the young, tiny Romanian with the cute face is back in Sharks. And this time she speaks decent English as well, it seems.

She is 22, short dark hair, 1,60 cm tall, A-cup and really cute face. Loves to sit straddled atop your lap when talking to her.

Has anyone seen her in Sharks lately, possibly with some information on how long she is there for?

[QUOTE=DukesFord;2211332]Can anyone give more details on what Rose looks like or where she sits? I'll be out in two weeks and she is now on the top of my list. Next to Barbie.[/QUOTE]If it's the same one I saw (pronounced like the wine), platinum blonde, tattoos, big full lips and has a scar running across her stomach that she covers up somewhat with lingerie / leather. She's got that pornstar look to her for sure. I always saw her walking around outside or towards the back of the bar. She's got a skinnier friend who dresses similar to her.

[QUOTE=DingoBrax;2211348]I recently read a report on a french forum saying that Mina, the young, tiny Romanian with the cute face is back in Sharks. And this time she speaks decent English as well, it seems.

She is 22, short dark hair, 1,60 cm tall, A-cup and really cute face. Loves to sit straddled atop your lap when talking to her.

Has anyone seen her in Sharks lately, possibly with some information on how long she is there for?[/QUOTE]Hey Dingo,

I last saw Mina end of June. She's returned to Sharks from the UK. Bristol I think she said. Has been at Sharks since some time now. Told me she did not enjoy the PFP scene in Britain. Felt unsafe working as an independent girl and prefers the FKKs! Now makes an honest living in Darmstad, working all week with the exception of Mon and Tues. Evening shift girl. Much improved English after this detour, as you say. Does not do 50 rooms, well so she claims. Not sure how long she is planning to stay at Sharks.

Hi my fellow brother-in-arms!

My first post!

Just wanted say thank you to everyone here at the forum for their tips and pointers. Very helpful and useful! I've actually visit Sharks in April this year (first visit ever for FKK) and its definitely an eye opening experience!

I've only managed to room 2 ladies during my visit (Got there around 4 pm on Saturday). Overall it was an enjoyable visit! The first lady was a so so experience however, the second lady, I believe her name is Brenda? Was very good! I mean being a huge tits lover myself, she definitely tick all the boxes!

I plan on paying Sharks another visit very soon next month, would any Bros know if Brenda will be in for business in September? Would definitely want to see her again!

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2210342] 100 for 1 hour is a good standard at Sharks, for DFK, BBBJ, DATY and sex.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately not a regular, so this may be a silly question. Do most or all the girls understand DFK and DATY? If I see someone I like do I say Do you do DATY or DFK? Or is that just forum talk and with the ladies you spell it out?

For those who may remember my reports from a few months ago, it's TaoWay.

I'll be back to Sharks soon for another trip, so you guys can look forward to my usual long winded reports, haha. Like I said in my very first post here on ISG, the various reports and advice that I found on ISG have made my FKK mongering highly enjoyable in the past. I like to pay it forward, particularly to help those who like me don't get to visit Sharks / FKKs frequently and thus naturally try to maximize their chance of having a good session while minimizing their chance of a bad one.

With that said, I'm currently thinking of changing up my reporting style, primarily for anonymity and to make it a little more difficult for the girls to link my ISG to me when I'm at Sharks. Rereading my old posts, because I provide a lot of details, it could potentially be easy for the girls to link up my ISG with me when I'm at the club. I know several girls check ISG. Also, I know guys sometimes talk about reviews directly with girls.

While I'm actually at Sharks, I plan to provide as detailed as a lineup as my memory will allow, haha, similar to how Nick The G used to / does. I know there's been a few recent posts asking for a lineup. As someone who visits from the US, I admit that it's nice to see a detailed recent lineup. It allows me to know if there is a good chance that I'll be able see my favorites. I was a little sad to see, after doing a search, that the most recent detailed lineup list was back in June from Jnpr30. It wasn't even in the Sharks thread, I found it in the General thread.

Afterwards, probably when I get back home, I'll post detailed reports. Full disclosure, I am currently planning on reordering when I sessioned with girls and might be a little bit more discrete with detailing activities, again for anonymity purposes. I will provide general services offered (BBBJ, GFE / kissing, DATY, do they watch the clock, etc.), since I know a lot of people like to know this, and whether I enjoyed the session. I will try to provide names of most girls I session with, unless there's an absolute gem who isn't talked about a lot that I might want to selfishly keep to myself, similar to what I did with my all time favorite girl during my last trips. As I mentioned in my last reports, I write reports to also help me remember my time at Sharks, so hopefully they will still be detailed enough to be helpful.

Looks like the weather is cooling down a little bit, at least compared to the height of the heat wave a couple of weeks ago. Hopefully it won't be a sauna. I'm an American, I'm stereotypically used to air conditioning, haha.

In any case, can't wait to enjoy Sharks again.

[QUOTE=TaoWay;2211999]For those who may remember my reports from a few months ago, it's TaoWay.

I'll be back to Sharks soon for another trip, so you guys can look forward to my usual long winded reports, haha. Like I said in my very first post here on ISG, the various reports and advice that I found on ISG have made my FKK mongering highly enjoyable in the past. I like to pay it forward, particularly to help those who like me don't get to visit Sharks / FKKs frequently and thus naturally try to maximize their chance of having a good session while minimizing their chance of a bad one.

With that said, I'm currently thinking of changing up my reporting style, primarily for anonymity and to make it a little more difficult for the girls to link my ISG to me when I'm at Sharks. Rereading my old posts, because I provide a lot of details, it could potentially be easy for the girls to link up my ISG with me when I'm at the club. I know several girls check ISG. Also, I know guys sometimes talk about reviews directly with girls..[/QUOTE]Thousand thanks for your very important report, at least now we know what to expect when we visit Shark this week.

Dina is back at Sharks.

On my most recent trip, decided to visit each of my favourite three clubs. Started off with Sharks as Wednesday's reduced entry of E50 sees an increased crowd and more girls so it is akin to the numbers on a Fri / Sat night. There were perhaps 70 girls overall and general standard was good but with few out and out stunners.

Got there at around 5 pm and it was a sweltering day and really uncomfortable especially inside which is not surprising as the building is essentially a corrugated iron shed. On heatwave days better to visit Palace or Oase which were comfortable.

1) Francisca:- Started with a repeat with a tall, slim blonde which hair beyond her shoulders cut straight in a schoolmistress style. Nice figure with decent sized natural tits and little in the way of tattoos which I always find off-putting. Saw her on one of my trips last year and was glad to see her again as she was on my repeat list.

We went outside to one of the outdoor beds. Some light kissing, decent foreplay and a good blowjob. I had to stop her a few times as I hadn't cum for ages and enjoyed feasting on her tits but eventually it was all too much. I hadn't blown my load for 11 days and was keen on giving a girl a facial. I should have checked before as Francisca was happy with CIM but not a facial which wasn't as pleasing but nevertheless I felt an enormous shudder when I deposited a heavy load into her mouth. A good way to open the account. E100.

2) Aria and Amy:- After a refreshing massage with the young, attractive Thai massuese, I fancied a brunette next. I did ponder having another pop with middle aged Lithuanian Angelika with the big arse but thought some fresh meat was also in order. Plumped for Aria who is a fit slim natural brunette in her late 20's. Claims to be Greek and certainly has a Greek look about her and was reminded of Greek Vaana from a while back at Sharks who is in my FKK Hall of Fame. Decided to pick up her friend as well called Amy who is a fairly attractive blonde wearing glasses who also claims to be from Greece. I suspect they are both lying. Nevertheless they passed the attractiveness test.

Unfortunately the service was way below expectations and this was my worst session on the tour. Blowie was with a condom though they offered owo for an extra E50 each and had all other manner of price list. I wasn't interested in the "extras" and this was the first time since the new law that a Sharks girl wanted extra for owo. I decided not to indulge and it was a fairly lacklustre 20 minutes or so with them taking turns to blow me. If it was with 1 girl, I would have refrained from cumming and saved a shot for another session but more difficult to write E100 off than E50 though it did go through my mind as the second shot on a tour is usually the best. In the end I came with Aria wanking me off whilst I groped her tits and with Anna nuzzling on my chest. Was a good orgasm but was a shame it was with these wastrels. E100.

3) Ester and Denisa:- Was tempted by a gorgeous girl called Judith from Hungary but after the last session decided to ask if owo was on offer. With the answer being it would be an extra E50 decided not to indulge. But talking to her got me in the mood for a stunner and one girl who fits the bill is Ester who is beautiful with an amazing smooth natural figure. I do have a soft spot for her and decided to take her for what was the 7th time which is only second in FKKs to my FKK wife Fidan who retired several years ago which is a shame as since her retirement I've been coming to Frankfurt a lot more frequently and would have seen her around 20 times by now!

I find it hard to resist Ester's charms and she persuaded me to take one of her friends called Denisa who I didn't immediately recognise but she reminded me we had taken her to the room before! I had a good laugh earlier in the evening with the same girl when neither of us remembered our previous encounter but Ester jogged our memories (in particular how we had been spanking each other a lot in the session) and I recalled I had a great time and Denisa also remembered the spanking which she both enjoys giving and receiving. I'm glad to say this was even better than last time.

Again went to one of the outside areas to avoid the crippling heat. Fantastic hour. Great blowjobs from them both with lots of alterations, mutual spanking with Denisa, FK with both, ate out Ester in a 69, Denisa in a conventional position, hammered Denisa with her legs splayed wide open before doing Ester doggy which is how I finished.

Must say, never seen Ester look or perform better and I hope she's there next time I visit. Interesting that Judith is objectively in the same bracket as Ester looks wise but she went straight for the golden goose which resulted in a nil return whereas Ester's approach has yearned her perhaps E700-800 over the last few years. This session cost E200.

I went for another massage and returned to the fray at 3 am but the club was virtually deserted with hardly any girls and the handful that were left did not interest me so decided to call it a night despite being in a position to muster another shot. Sharks does empty out quickly after 2 am. 2 out of the 3 sessions were top notch and as the last one was particularly memorable I left in a good mood.

Much appreciated Taoway, I only get to go a few times a yr so any detailed report about the lineup would be wonderful. I'll be there next weekend thanks!

[QUOTE=TaoWay;2211999]For those who may remember my reports from a few months ago,

While I'm actually at Sharks, I plan to provide as detailed as a lineup as my memory will allow, haha, similar to how Nick The G used to / does. I know there's been a few recent posts asking for a lineup. As someone who visits from the US, I admit that it's nice to see a detailed recent lineup. It allows me to know if there is a good chance that I'll be able see my favorites. I was a little sad to see, after doing a search, that the most recent detailed lineup list was back in June from Jnpr30. It wasn't even in the Sharks thread, I found it in the General thread.

Afterwards, probably when I get back home, I'll post detailed reports. Full disclosure, I am currently planning on reordering when I sessioned with girls and might be a little bit more discrete with detailing activities, again for anonymity purposes..[/QUOTE]

I went to Sharks last week for the first time, I found it underwhelming compared to Artemis however visiting on a Tuesday may have contributed to the poor L / you.

I will arrive late in Darmstadt again (about 11 pm) on Saturday (1/9) so I've decided to give Sharks another go as Saturday may have a better L / you.

I then have the whole day on Sunday for FKK club adventures but where to go??

I need some advise please:

If Saturday night is much better I will spend all day Sunday at Sharks again otherwise I'm thinking about trying out Palace or Mainhatten.

Which of those two clubs would members recommend please??

I like a Kino that Sharks doesn't have but like the Sharks prices although the girls L / you was poor when I went on Tuesday.

I will be using public transport.

I'm really unsure what to do, any advise would be grateful.

[QUOTE=RogueNation;2212018]Dina is back at Sharks.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the information. I wish our queen would get enough business.

Helen is back too.

The appearance of the two Queens greatly improved the lineup of Sharks.

[QUOTE=RogueNation;2212018]Dina is back at Sharks.[/QUOTE]I hope you guys are treating her well.

[QUOTE=ChuckZ;2211969]Unfortunately not a regular, so this may be a silly question. Do most or all the girls understand DFK and DATY? If I see someone I like do I say Do you do DATY or DFK? Or is that just forum talk and with the ladies you spell it out?[/QUOTE]No, FKK land average girls don t know these meanings and are low level in bed. Romanian kiss are baby kiss or dog kiss, meaning they block your tongue with their teeth or lips are closed. You have to ask about kissing with tongue, and licking pussy. Most provide BBBJ for standard, because they wish for CIM for extra 50 .

As I said to Romanian girls last night at Marina in Slovenia, not far from Zoncolan, after Wellcum in Austria, I m not a Ferrari for sex, when they are used to fuck Italians, just for suck and fuck and they are happy about, in 10 mn, so I said to top sexy Mila but with ashtray smell, so I couldn't enjoy to kiss a ashtray, she was really sexy desirable for her look, but not for her behavior. With my little experience, I smelled a woman type, even more Romanian for sure than Swiss she claimed to be, I think only working, but Swiss GFE level, so I took all my time to deeply kiss her, with her fresh breathe, caress her to make her becoming horny, DATY her to YamaYama, with magic tongue as she said, then my turn for pleasure as she said, for long and deep BBBJ, then deep sex. Her vagina was very opened, after DATY with fingers, when we started, but got tighter while fucking. Relaxing time with a woman behavior, she asked if I wanted to stay more? Before we never spoke about time or money, but 1h30 for 210 was good for my pleasure with no extra asked for kissing or fingers.

Hessen 50/30 mn, Wellcum and Marina. Slo 70/30 mn with extra asked for kissing. When we came back, Mila and some other girls, girls look what we are doing when You are not just a shadow, asked me if I fell in love with her, for sure really different from 10 mn Italians, same like Turkish, but there are very few women who are attractive for me, and many girls I let to their way for business. Only when I see a really top beauty but they are very rare in FKK land, then I will try, treating her like a princess in bed to try to make her becoming my GF in bed.

From my experiences, smart girls don t speak about time and money, they read who You are, what You like, to try to keep You with them for as long as possible. They don t try to fuck You about money, because they prefer You repeat with them.

Even with a ex Hessen superstar, now Globe superstar, top class Romanian woman, even I m nothing for money for her at Globe since our last room on November 2016 , but each time she came back to the lounge, she tried to attract me, asking: You still like me? When I didn't go with her on last time we saw on November 2017, had a exceptional time with such rare woman in FKK land on last Thursday, before preferring to drive away to Wellcum. At the end, she could go to check about the time on Globe desk, but she asked me: do You know how long we were together? More than 2 h15 together, over 1h30 for my best room with her at Globe. She just took money I gave her, like all my smart girls who prefer I return to them.

For sure, behavior can pay like money, to get the prettiest and busiest, who come to You when they see You, because they want to keep You as regular, even they have busy business.

A Sharks girl and a YY girl seen at Marina, like Roxana seen at Wellcum on last August.

Was there Sat 11th few days ago and before that 2 weeks ago. Compared to the last time it was a very poor LineUp. Many girls were missing, 20-30 girls less. Can't understand when someone writes that the Sharks is better than Artemis Berlin, better in what? Can't be true! Artemis is a huge club in Berlin. Sharks is also a huge club, but in the middle of somewhere, near Frankfurt and near French border maybe and other more or less big cities OK, but Artemis should be still No1 in Germany (although I was there long time ago). LineUp like I said pretty weak, no Germans at all, OK there were 1 maybe 2, but old, really old around 40 and one much older (and not so sure if German). I guess the "Assumption of Mary" 15th August in orthodox mythology is a "special day" plus vacation time, many men are away and so are the girls.

And a special note for our American, French and Asians friends here (yes I am German): Don't mess up with the prices! One, maybe 2 years ago it was easy to find many girls who did the "hula-hoop" for 50 Euros and maybe 5 tipping and they did it good! Now it is really hard to find one who goes into the room for 50, at least they ask a lot, try to sell "upgrades" and stuff like that. OK some of you business-guys do have a lot of money, understood and some of you don't know the Pay6 heaven we still got here in Germany. You see the girls, think about your restrictive home countries and then spend your 500 or 1000 euros or dollars or whatever in one evening thinking "hey I give it to the girls and have fun before my wife or Xi Jinping get's all my money". However the girls are not stupid, so shouldn't be you. If we overbid each other without even thinking about it then the girls go crazy and in the end we ALL pay more than we really have to or had to. So please think before you spend, don't give the money away. Of course nobody wants to look like a stingy fart, but we are killing each other here with money! I mean it is pretty obvious that the Asians guys are pretty "popular". No you are not! Your money is popular. Don't throw away the money, never say that it is your first time in Sharks, never say your first time in a bordello in Germany. Inform yourselves about the prices, ask those German guys who look trustworthy and clever. But don't destroy the market. In the end you are overbidding yourselves too!

[QUOTE=RogueNation;2212018]Dina is back at Sharks.[/QUOTE]Do you know if this is temporary or backnto stay?

[QUOTE=Stuggi;2212285]Was there Sat 11th few days ago and before that 2 weeks ago. Compared to the last time it was a very poor LineUp. Many girls were missing, 20-30 girls less. Can't understand when someone writes that the Sharks is better than Artemis Berlin, better in what? Can't be true! Artemis is a huge club in Berlin. Sharks is also a huge club, but in the middle of somewhere, near Frankfurt and near French border maybe and other more or less big cities OK, but Artemis should be still No1 in Germany (although I was there long time ago). LineUp like I said pretty weak, no Germans at all, OK there were 1 maybe 2, but old, really old around 40 and one much older (and not so sure if German). I guess the "Assumption of Mary" 15th August in orthodox mythology is a "special day" plus vacation time, many men are away and so are the girls.

And a special note for our American, French and Asians friends here (yes I am German): Don't mess up with the prices! One, maybe 2 years ago it was easy to find many girls who did the "hula-hoop" for 50 Euros and maybe 5 tipping and they did it good! Now it is really hard to find one who goes into the room for 50, at least they ask a lot, try to sell "upgrades" and stuff like that. OK some of you business-guys do have a lot of money, understood and some of you don't know the Pay6 heaven we still got here in Germany. You see the girls, think about your restrictive home countries and then spend your 500 or 1000 euros or dollars or whatever in one evening thinking "hey I give it to the girls and have fun before my wife or Xi Jinping get's all my money". However the girls are not stupid, so shouldn't be you. If we overbid each other without even thinking about it then the girls go crazy and in the end we ALL pay more than we really have to or had to. So please think before you spend, don't give the money away. Of course nobody wants to look like a stingy fart, but we are killing each other here with money! I mean it is pretty obvious that the Asians guys are pretty "popular". No you are not! Your money is popular. Don't throw away the money, never say that it is your first time in Sharks, never say your first time in a bordello in Germany. Inform yourselves about the prices, ask those German guys who look trustworthy and clever. But don't destroy the market. In the end you are overbidding yourselves too![/QUOTE]Finally a reasonable post on the topic of over-paying! Thank you Stuggi! Hopefully the Asians and other over-paying fellows will take a cue from your message.

[QUOTE=Stuggi;2212285]Was there Sat 11th few days ago and before that 2 weeks ago. Compared to the last time it was a very poor LineUp. Many girls were missing, 20-30 girls less.[/QUOTE]As every year, the girls start to go home for summer holidays second half of July to meet friends and relatives. And that phenomenon hasn't changed over a least the last 15 years. If anyone wants a good lineup, well, you are better advised to come again after middle of September. Anyone who expects something else IMHO is a newcomer to the scene or a wishful dreamer.

[QUOTE=Stuggi;2212285]And a special note for our American, French and Asians friends here (yes I am German): Don't mess up with the prices![/QUOTE]I wonder why you are writing in an international forum when your mind is obviously Germany-centered?

People who come from abroad with the intention to visit the FKK-clubs in Germany, often traveling thousands of miles, have different priorities, values and cultural attitudes.

[QUOTE=Stuggi;2212285]Inform yourselves about the prices, ask those German guys who look trustworthy and clever.[/QUOTE] Trustworthy and clever? Never met anyone of this kind in the clubs!

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2212440]I wonder why you are writing in an international forum when your mind is obviously Germany-centered?

People who come from abroad with the intention to visit the FKK-clubs in Germany, often traveling thousands of miles, have different priorities, values and cultural attitudes.[/QUOTE]I hope this doesn't sound confrontational, but as I remember, Germany is a nation and as such qualifies as a member of many international communities. I love to hear from the non Anglaphones who have diverse styles of thinking. Afterall, without the German approach to prostitution the Americans and Asians could fly thousands of miles to end up who knows where, yanking one out in the dark doorway one a sketchy street. If you play the game correctly, you can get great services with nice women at standard pricing. If everyone walked away from the upsellers or refused to pay for the additional asks, the upselling would stop and people traveling thousands of miles could session 25-50% more ladies for the same money. Just my two cents, now I just need €49.98 more for another thirty minutes of fun.

I'm trying to remember the name of a german girl that works at sharks and that I sessioned with in September 2017 (was a Saturday): blonde hair, blue or green eyes, chubby, very big ass, between 20-25, has a ring (she's married infact). Thank you very much.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2212440]I wonder why you are writing in an international forum when your mind is obviously Germany-centered?

People who come from abroad with the intention to visit the FKK-clubs in Germany, often traveling thousands of miles, have different priorities, values and cultural attitudes.[/QUOTE]I agree with you.

If anyone ever read Stuggi previous posts, which full of bogus description and suspicious accuse and bigotry view of Asian and international mongers, one will easily figure out that the guy is a faker.

I doubt if the guy had ever visited any FKK club.

[QUOTE=Stuggi;2212285]Was there Sat 11th few days ago and before that 2 weeks ago. Compared to the last time it was a very poor LineUp. Many girls were missing, 20-30 girls less. Can't understand when someone writes that the Sharks is better than Artemis Berlin, better in what? Can't be true! Artemis is a huge club in Berlin. Sharks is also a huge club, but in the middle of somewhere, near Frankfurt and near French border maybe and other more or less big cities OK, but Artemis should be still No1 in Germany (although I was there long time ago). LineUp like I said pretty weak, no Germans at all, OK there were 1 maybe 2, but old, really old around 40 and one much older (and not so sure if German). I guess the "Assumption of Mary" 15th August in orthodox mythology is a "special day" plus vacation time, many men are away and so are the girls.

And a special note for our American, French and Asians friends here (yes I am German): Don't mess up with the prices! One, maybe 2 years ago it was easy to find many girls who did the "hula-hoop" for 50 Euros and maybe 5 tipping and they did it good!.[/QUOTE]Don't you know about holidays time in August? Girls who are free and can afford, enjoy to return to their family, or to take time off to recover from this bad job.

Sharks is about 150 kms from French border, not so close.

Never visited Artemis, but I was really surprised to find a really good casting at Sharks on mid June, best casting I saw in Germany on 2018, so I enjoyed from Friday afternoon after Mainhattan to Sunday late afternoon, when I discovered a top class Romanian woman type. Unfortunately, after a magic breakfast eyes in eyes and our third room, she told me on next Friday, she didn't want to keep on working at Sharks. I didn't tell her about Globe, because I felt Swiss guys expectations would be too difficult for her. Kind of woman, You have to treat like a princess in bed to get back from her, but I enjoyed she tried to please me back, after being relaxed by a YamaYama.

Wait and see on September for casting quality. No big upselling experienced at Sharks, 1 h for 100 seem to be a good standard with girls, I m too slow when I enjoy for only 30 mn.

[QUOTE=Mangga;2212457]I'm trying to remember the name of a german girl that works at sharks and that I sessioned with in September 2017 (was a Saturday): blonde hair, blue or green eyes, chubby, very big ass, between 20-25, has a ring (she's married infact). Thank you very much.[/QUOTE]I think her name is Lea, Very nice person. Very pleasant to talk to her.

Went with Helen but some how very distracted session, keep looking into handy but finish the job. Her beauty makes you harder but did not allow to fuck between boobs, not sure what is the matter with her.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2212440]I wonder why you are writing in an international forum when your mind is obviously Germany-centered?

Trustworthy and clever? Never met anyone of this kind in the clubs![/QUOTE]Why the needless confrontation? If anything this forum is very much lacking in the German perspective. At least as far as Germany goes, they know more than us, I don't think anyone can seriously dispute that.

The man is trying to save us some money, the same collusion on price setting the girls get up to should be emulated by us.

Sure, he could've been more tactful when referring to the Asians but I don't think he set out to upset anyone. And if I was seeing the prices in my local FKKs rise due to foreigners I too would drape myself in the xenophobic flag.

[QUOTE=RichCandyMan;2212510]I think her name is Lea, Very nice person. Very pleasant to talk to her.[/QUOTE]Thank you, do you know if she works Fridays aswell? I only sessioned with her on Saturday in the past.

I spent two days at Sharks in July. The lineup wasn't bad, but wasn't great for my preference (youngish, natural, and nice). Compared with Samya, Oase, Artemis, and GT-Vienna, the lineup at Sharks was my least favorite (Samya and Oase were my favorites). Sharks has the best food and a pretty good outdoor area, but I had more fun at the other places.

LU better than Oase yesterday. The Latvia MILF with the big bouncing ass made my day. She got scooped up twice right before my eyes before I could be with her. She is one of the most popular girls at Sharks. She doesn't seem to discriminate in favour of any ethnicity as far as I could make out. She is some kind of opera buff and has other educated pursuits in life beside "working". She gave me a glimpse of the big house where she lives back home. Wow. I wish I owned such a place. As a monger I'd been told I was preying on distressed peasant waifs and lo, I'm frolicking with a lady who is above my station in life! I feel like a hero in a Stendhal novel.

I complained about the music being too loud around the pool and the volume was reduced. Wasps were out in force especially when the barbecue was served. Watching dignified late middle-age gentlemen barely getting a gulp between swats was funny.

Overnighting at Autobahnhotel Pfungstadt for 39 euros. I missed the place on my first pass despite google maps getting it right because it lies unfamiliarly within a motorway rest and tanking area. No WiFi. Tomorrow Paradise Saarbruecken.

[QUOTE=XXL;2212764]LU better than Oase yesterday. The Latvia MILF with the big bouncing ass made my day. She got scooped up twice right before my eyes before I could be with her. She is one of the most popular girls at Sharks. She doesn't seem to discriminate in favour of any ethnicity as far as I could make out. She is some kind of opera buff and has other educated pursuits in life beside "working". She gave me a glimpse of the big house where she lives back home. Wow. I wish I owned such a place. As a monger I'd been told I was preying on distressed peasant waifs and lo, I'm frolicking with a lady who is above my station in life! I feel like a hero in a Stendhal novel.

I complained about the music being too loud around the pool and the volume was reduced. Wasps were out in force especially when the barbecue was served. Watching dignified late middle-age gentlemen barely getting a gulp between swats was funny.

Overnighting at Autobahnhotel Pfungstadt for 39 euros. I missed the place on my first pass despite google maps getting it right because it lies unfamiliarly within a motorway rest and tanking area. No WiFi. Tomorrow Paradise Saarbruecken.[/QUOTE]Sorry but even she will pay me 500 euro I will never but never go with a woman like that, 0 sex appeal, so ugly, no need to visit a FKK to fuck those kind of woman, so many of that kind are available for free.

[QUOTE=RichCandyMan;2212512]Went with Helen but some how very distracted session, keep looking into handy but finish the job. Her beauty makes you harder but did not allow to fuck between boobs, not sure what is the matter with her.[/QUOTE]Another kind of star on this forum who is not worth 1 euro at least for me.

Let the lengthy posts begin, haha.

Like I promised, I'll be posting primarily lineup / general comments now and then my reports on sessions after a little while.

Here are the girls that I saw. This is absolutely not a complete list, these are just the girls that I already know or who introduced themselves to me today. There are several girls who I consider not appealing that I did not try to get their names, because I did not want to go through the hassle of letting them think I wanted to session when I didn't. There are a few stunners for me who I did not get their names but plan to talk to later in the trip. I usually saw them in between sessions and didn't want to talk to them without then getting a session. I tend to not like making appointments, as you never know if somebody better comes along. Thus, I simply didn't want to do this with the girls I found attractive but don't know yet. Remember, this is still early in my trip, so I'm taking the gamble that I'll meet them later (I can only cum so many times in one day, haha).

Abby.

Alexa.

Angelica.

Angelina.

Anastasia.

Aurelia.

Ava.

Betty.

Brenda.

Dea.

Elif.

Esther.

Flavia.

Karin.

Joanna.

Lavinia.

Miriam.

Selina.

Steffi.

Tabitha.

Yvonna.

I'll even try to describe ones I thought were appealing who I didn't have the opportunity to meet (in the selfish hopes that you'll know who I'm talking about and do me a solid and mention whether they are good, haha) as well as the ones who simply had a noticeable appearance that made them stick out.

Pink fishnet top with dyed blonde hair and dark roots girl who sits at the bar near the kitchen (I want to say I talked to her last trip, but couldn't remember her name; if she is who I'm thinking of, I believe she didn't pass screening last time; she is very attractive though).

Platinum blonde / near white hair that is chin length girl.

The two blondes at the German table, one wearing black lingerie bottoms.

The two blondes who sit at the end of the bar near the fountain / massage area.

Dark hair pixie cut girl (not my type, but seemed to be popular, I think she's been talked about recently).

Big tattoo of a face on the right leg girl (not my type).

As I fully admit, I don't know everyone, please feel free to add more names.

All in all, even with the holiday effect, I thought it was a pretty decent lineup, in terms of variety and marque / famous names. Yes, noticeable girls who I saw all the time in past trips were missing, like Amalia, Carolina, Emma, Sade, etc. , though this might be some of them deciding to quit (like Amalia apparently) or leave Sharks vs being on holiday. However, I still think the current lineup hits various different physical types, so depending on what you like, you should be able to find someone. I will say that the holiday effect did bite me in the ass given that my all time favorite girl was not in attendance. I'm still holding out hope (aka being naive) that I'll be lucky enough that she returns on the last couple days of my trip.

With that said, the guy to girl ratio was definitely bad in my opinion. I've never been on discount day, so though I've read it can be a sausage fest, I was somewhat surprised just how bad the ratio was.

I have had good sessions so far, though I was a little bit down about most likely missing my all time favorite girl this trip. I will say that my wallet is thanking me, as all my sessions have been 50 E to 100 E so far, compared to what I was spending on my favorite last trip (more than happy to spend though, given the length, quality, and activities). Definitely was out on the floor / outdoor area not sessioning a lot, lot longer than last trip. Forgot how boring it can be.

[QUOTE=PuntTheWorld2;2211192]Please do not take my post as qualified medical advice, as I am not a medical professional. I wanted to be sure when I was in Greece, so I took both Doxy (2 doses of 100 MG for 7 days) and Azithro (500 MG in one dose). Normally, I read that this would take care of it in most cases. My test still showed the clap when I got back, so I got a shot of Ceftriaxone and more Azithro.[/QUOTE]I also caught gonorrhea recently from either sharks or Oase and the doctor prescribed the same medication. However, it showed resistance so he had to prescribe something stronger. He said most likely the girl did not wait 7 days after treatment which is why the bacteria developed resistance. Anyways, test came back clear.

My next trip to Sharks leaves in a week.

STD's don't seem to be a much discussed topic in this forum. Yet, in the past week I have seen posts from guys who got the clap at Sharks within the past few months. The Question is this: How prevalent are STD's at Sharks, in the experience of the hard core mongers? How often do the girls get tested? And is there any advice the experts can share to avoid such displeasure?

[QUOTE=WilliamHuntley;2212873]STD's don't seem to be a much discussed topic in this forum. Yet, in the past week I have seen posts from guys who got the clap at Sharks within the past few months. The Question is this: How prevalent are STD's at Sharks, in the experience of the hard core mongers? How often do the girls get tested? And is there any advice the experts can share to avoid such displeasure?[/QUOTE]This is probably a question many people have in their minds, but if you think about it, it is not a question to which you can seek honest answers here.

The two gentlemen who reported here did so bravely. I would not presume that the incidence of STDs increased of late because these two cases were reported now and nothing was reported in the past. All it means is that two men stepped forward to report now, and no one did so in the past. No one knows if the incidence in the clubs is increasing, decreasing, stagnant -- for the simple reason that no reliable testing / reporting is being done.

And every once in a while someone reports having contacted an STD but typically those reports came from members with limited commenting history, and they were disbelieved (because it is comforting to disbelieve such things). It may very well be that those guys are actually 2nd avatars of frequently commenting members here but chose a 2nd identity to admit to such a "shameful secret". This forum is for the most part an anonymous forum, and this is a bunch of mongers speaking to other mongers online, and yet if they are ashamed of admitting to such things you can imagine how they feel admitting to the larger society. Sad really, when you consider no disease is inherently more shameful than the next one.

Most of the regulars who bothered to comment on this topic have said "in x years of mongering, and after 1000 x of sessions and BBBJ (or even BBFS in some cases) never caught more than a simple cold". May very well be true. I will let you decide if such anecdotes on this anonymous forum increase your comfort level in any way. Some have even argued using their own "analysis" that it is simply impossible to catch HIV at least through any amount of heterosexual sex; again upto you to decide if that is an analysis you want to hang your raincoat on (I realize your question was not related to HIV)

Do the girls get tested? It has been discussed here, one just has to RTFF. But as far as what happens to the guys in FKK clubs, you will never get a true picture by reading this forum.

[QUOTE=LMatador;2212639]Why the needless confrontation? If anything this forum is very much lacking in the German perspective. At least as far as Germany goes, they know more than us, I don't think anyone can seriously dispute that.

The man is trying to save us some money, the same collusion on price setting the girls get up to should be emulated by us.

Sure, he could've been more tactful when referring to the Asians but I don't think he set out to upset anyone. And if I was seeing the prices in my local FKKs rise due to foreigners I too would drape myself in the xenophobic flag.[/QUOTE]Oh young one. Everybody pays what they want or can to get what they want. Some want to spend a long time in the room and some are OK with 30 minutes. Those that pay more are likely to get more. FKK is not cheap, don't like it, so go the the RLD. Like in anything else in life, you pay more you get more. If Asians want to pay excessively, that's there business. Sex for money is quite simple. Soon you'll start asking people not to create real estate demand in Germany because prices are rising.

It must be a joke right? It is possible to get STD in such clubs? I thought that these places were the last to worry for such things.

[QUOTE=TaoWay;2212838]With that said, the guy to girl ratio was definitely bad in my opinion. I've never been on discount day, so though I've read it can be a sausage fest, I was somewhat surprised just how bad the ratio was. Forgot how boring it can be.[/QUOTE]On Sundays before 5-6 pm it might be even worse.

Joanna / Djamila was dancing? And if yes, was she the only one dancing?

You're right, remembering back, my past Sundays have been somewhat rough due to the ratio. This Wednesday simply stood out, probably impacted by the holiday effect, though for the others reading, I still think the lineup is solid.

Also, though I mentioned it in passing in a recent post, since you're commenting directly, I wanted to say thanks for your previous detailed lineup listings. Definitely helped me know who would most likely be there in my last trip. Kind of why I did my last post, haha.

The Joanna I'm thinking of (at least that's the name she gave me last trip), is the pale, black hair girl with the innocent, pretty face and smallish natural breasts. She was brand new back in February. Used to hang out with Anastasia and her clique, though I didn't really see them together yesterday. I remember reading a post back then saying that she used to commute to Sharks, if that helps ID her.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2212965]On Sundays before 5-6 pm it might be even worse.

Joanna / Djamila was dancing? And if yes, was she the only one dancing?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WilliamHuntley;2212873]STD's don't seem to be a much discussed topic in this forum. Yet, in the past week I have seen posts from guys who got the clap at Sharks within the past few months. The Question is this: How prevalent are STD's at Sharks, in the experience of the hard core mongers? How often do the girls get tested? And is there any advice the experts can share to avoid such displeasure?[/QUOTE]Some FKK girls do get tested regularly, but some others (like in the general population) wait until they get visible symptoms before they take action. Jnpr is right that not every guy who gets an STD discusses it in this forum, but some guys may not be aware they have caught something. You should consider that in almost 50% of people the three most common STDs do not give clear symptoms, but they can cause serious damage if they are not treated. My advice is to get tested regularly if you visit WGs, regardless of whether or not you have symptoms.

Rock.

[QUOTE=TaoWay;2212986]The Joanna I'm thinking of (at least that's the name she gave me last trip), is the pale, black hair girl with the innocent, pretty face and smallish natural breasts. She was brand new back in February. Used to hang out with Anastasia and her clique, though I didn't really see them together yesterday. I remember reading a post back then saying that she used to commute to Sharks, if that helps ID her.[/QUOTE]Sorry, seems we are talking about different girls!

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2212884]This is probably a question many people have in their minds, but if you think about it, it is not a question to which you can seek honest answers here.[/QUOTE]My thoughts exactly. I had most of my original report written and was going to post on the night I started experiencing symptoms. Obviously that didn't happen. In any case, I can see why many wouldn't bother posting about their infections, as I was considering just deleting the post from my phone entirely and never coming to FKK land again. But forums like these only work if people are honest with their reports and tell the whole story.

Std: s are not anyones favourite subject of course. I got the clap at Oase a few years ago. It was not pleasant but I've had much fun and great sex at FKKs since, mostly at Sharks. Never had a problem but I know that it can happen. Boring topic and not really club-related in my opinion.

Something more important. Long time since I read about Patricia, Mol. Is she still around?

[QUOTE=TaoWay;2212838]

Like I promised, I'll be posting primarily lineup

Aurelia.

[/QUOTE]Same Aurelia who worked previously in Sharks and moved to Globe around two years ago?

Young looking blonde, around 160 cm, thin, size 6?

[QUOTE=Mojoman74;2213171]Same Aurelia who worked previously in Sharks and moved to Globe around two years ago?

Young looking blonde, around 160 cm, thin, size 6?[/QUOTE]Aurelia is still touring at Globe. Why do you want Globe girls, same for Megan or Katalina, return to Sharks? Or Beatriz / ex Alice Aca at Velbert?

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2212440]I wonder why you are writing in an international forum when your mind is obviously Germany-centered?[/QUOTE]I wonder why you visit a Club in Germany? This is Germany here. (I don't think like that but maybe you are able to think the game vice-a-versa).

[QUOTE]People who come from abroad with the intention to visit the FKK-clubs in Germany, often traveling thousands of miles, have different priorities, values and cultural attitudes.[/QUOTE]And their highest priority is to ruin the prices? Don't think so!

[QUOTE]Trustworthy and clever? Never met anyone of this kind in the clubs! [/QUOTE]Wow! Pretty negative thinking. But I did not tell anyone to trust anybody else his life or pruse. I was just saying talk with some people, get some infos, don't go in there "naked". Someone with a brain is for sure able to categorize some infos he collects.

[QUOTE=JohnEllee]If anyone ever read Stuggi previous posts, which full of bogus description and suspicious accuse and bigotry view of Asian and international mongers, one will easily figure out that the guy is a faker.
I doubt if the guy had ever visited any FKK club.[/QUOTE]Don't know what your problem is and why you are attacking me. It is pretty lame to accuse someone without knowing anything about him (plus speculating in that hardcore manner). Am I allowed to speculate too? [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] You don't want me to warn the Asian guys or Americans, so they don't spend too much money, which means you don't earn so much money. However, I visited Sharks many times and for sure years before you ever knew that there is sth like the Sharks. Therefore I know how the things have changed. My view on Asians is more than OK. I don't have a problem with them. I was just saying "don't ruin the market and don't pay anything the girls want". You hurt yourselves too! I don't think in categories like Germans against Asians. I more think in categories like: those who earn money in the clubs and those (we) who spend the money. Don't ruin the markets is a pretty good advise for anybody, not only for those who visit sex clubs.

[QUOTE=Stuggi;2213221]I wonder why you visit a Club in Germany? This is Germany here. (I don't think like that but maybe you are able to think the game vice-a-versa).

And their highest priority is to ruin the prices? Don't think so!

Wow! Pretty negative thinking. But I did not tell anyone to trust anybody else his life or pruse. I was just saying talk with some people, get some infos, don't go in there "naked". Someone with a brain is for sure able to categorize some infos he collects.

Don't know what your problem is and why you are attacking me. It is pretty lame to accuse someone without knowing anything about him (plus speculating in that hardcore manner). Am I allowed to speculate too? You don't want me to warn the Asian guys or Americans, so they don't spend too much money, which means you don't earn so much money. However, I visited Sharks many times and for sure years before you ever knew that there is sth like the Sharks. Therefore I know how the things have changed. My view on Asians is more than OK. I don't have a problem with them. I was just saying "don't ruin the market and don't pay anything the girls want". You hurt yourselves too! I don't think in categories like Germans against Asians. I more think in categories like: those who earn money in the clubs and those (we) who spend the money. Don't ruin the markets is a pretty good advise for anybody, not only for those who visit sex clubs.[/QUOTE]Nobody care who writes in which forum, everything is internationalized. However, we live in a profit maximizing society where people maximize their own utility function based on their own factors.

The 50 euro days are over irrespective of Asians. Now things work mostly for 100. Next step will be 150. C'est la vie.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2213188]Aurelia is still touring at Globe. Why do you want Globe girls, same for Megan or Katalina, return to Sharks? Or Beatriz / ex Alice Aca at Velbert?[/QUOTE]Don't want anything, just a simple question about Aurelia, since I noticed that her status at globe is 'bald züruck'.

Megan, Katalina, Beatriz, Alice? Did not mention them.

At TaoWay.

The blonde with the pink fishnet top ist Helen. She has beautiful boobs but reports on her are mixed.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2212440]I wonder why you are writing in an international forum when your mind is obviously Germany-centered?

People who come from abroad with the intention to visit the FKK-clubs in Germany, often traveling thousands of miles, have different priorities, values and cultural attitudes.[/QUOTE]Well, I'm german too and from my German perspective I have to agree with Stuggi. Since we are living here, we get to enjoy the FKK Clubs more regularly than most of the sex tourists from abroad. I can understand that tourists from abroad are okay with paying a very high price for a regular service, because they can't have it that often as we locals can.

But the girls adapt to that and get spoiled with time. Before all the tourists ruined the prices in the big clubs, 50 € for half an hour (100 € for an hour) of perfect service (tongue kisses, pussy licking, BBBJ etc.) was the widely accepted standard and you didn't even have to negotiate with the girls. They just knew that this was the price. Clubbing was very relaxed back then, because there wasn't a bazar atmosphere like today. You didn't have to ask the girl, if tongue kisses, BBBJ, pussy licking etc. Was included because it just was. In the small clubs far away from the tourist places this is still the case by the way, which shows that tourists caused the price erosion in the big clubs like Oase and Sharks. No tourists = perfect service for standard prices. Today there are many girls in Sharks and Oase that won't give you good service for less than 100 €. And even if you pay 100 € for an hour, you can't be sure that the girl won't jump out of the bed and run to the door after you finished in minute 40.

That's the perspective of all German FKK Clubbers. Take it or leave it, but you can't deny that clubbing in the big places would be much more relaxed and cheap, if everyone just payed the standard rates and didn't spoil the girls. As long as you don't ruin the market for as locals, no one is bothered by tourists wherever they may be from.

[QUOTE=Ortos;2213332]Hey, we should all count ourselves "lucky" that he did not mention Madi from World, who he still chimes on about in occasional posts, even though she's been long gone for like 5+ years.[/QUOTE]Oh yeah, Madi with the 'womanliest' behavior LOL.

[QUOTE=Ortos;2213332]Hey, we should all count ourselves "lucky" that he did not mention Madi from World, who he still chimes on about in occasional posts, even though she's been long gone for like 5+ years.[/QUOTE]She stopped on Easter 2016 when she returned to Romania, after working for 2 years, and nearly 31 yo. When she didn t have business in empty World, on some Winter Saturday, I was her only business, but she was not even able to move to another club around Frankfurt, even she drove and had a big car.

Aurelia tour at Globe since end of 2016, very smiling at Globe. Megan tour at Globe since April 2017, but lost her smile seeing me going with wow level in bed girls, but I think I helped her from Mainhattan, like I'm sure Madi could have her business in Germany and she would have been the best, German women would have run to her, and would still be in Germany where she came, but her wishes were not to finish at World.

The one benefit of the absence of my favorite girl is that I'm having the opportunity to go back to what I first did when I started visiting FKKs (and why a lot of mongers go to FKKs at all), sample a lot of beautiful girls. I particularly am picking opti-fucks (opti-fuck in this context being the true 9-10's look wise who probably will be less than stellar session wise and / or not GFE since they know they can get away on looks alone). I've done five so far, and only one has been bad. I was planning on talking about the bad session now for the benefit of others, however, in reading my draft, I realized it would potentially reveal too much on who I am and potentially cause me hassle, as though she is bad, she is a favorite among the local Germans for reason that will become clear when I post details about her. If I say bad things about her, I'm fairly positive that if local Germans read this and they are at Sharks the same time I am, they will try to find out who I am from her to confront me and defend her honor, haha. I will wait for when I return home to post, since this is when I plan to post my usual detailed summaries anyway.

To be fair to my favorite, none of the four good sessions have come anywhere close service wise to what she can do and offers. As objective as a guy can be posting anonymously on the internet, if my favorite is a 10 in terms of my enjoyment of a session, even the best sessions so far have been a 6. I remember last trip, after I posted a detailed report on why I enjoyed spending a long time (and to be fair, money) with my favorite, another poster replied positively about how there are a lot of benefits of finding a favorite you click with, such as the girl being more natural and relaxed (as much as a working girl can be) in her approach to you (as she is less stressed / concerned about making her target goal by potentially having to chase many 50 E sessions) and normally offering discounts (I know that a lot of ISGers think it's BS about girls offering discounts to their best customers but from my own experience, I do think that the good, smart girls who get good returning customers do know to offer some type of discount, such as free additional time in the room; long couch times; removing the cost of some services they would normally charge for; etc.).

I do think that in addition to the sex hobbying, another hobby that a lot of guys do at FKKs is watching the other guys to see how much they pay. To stereotype, I particularly think a lot of local Germans do this.

Background, I paid 100 E for an amazing session with a true opti-fuck who is 110% my type. Though she did not pass my 50 E screening (she does not kiss at 50 E) and thus would normally pass if this was a typical Sharks girl, in talking with her and simply looking at her body, I knew I would happily pay 100 E for a 1 HR session with her and that it would be a great session from the visuals alone, never mind that she was giving off vibes that she she truly would make it a good session at 100 E / 1 HR, similar in style to Amalia's approach.

However, after this wonderful session, when I went to pay her the 100 E, a local German watching the money lockers made an effort to come up to warn me (confront me) about being an overpaying Asian tourist. I think he thought he was doing it in a friendly manner, as he was slightly drunk, and maybe I'm being a little defensive, but I was quite taken back by his directness (I personally would call it rudeness, though I'm sure thought he was being helpful, the noble German knight in shining armor saving others from girls trying to charge more due to the misinformed Asian tourists). I simply replied back it was 100 E for a 1 HR session, I'm aware of the stereotype, and walked away. Sadly, I saw this happen a couple of other time to others.

I don't want to cause a flame war. Simply stating what happened to communicate an experience I had at Sharks, potentially for the benefit of some readers. Just like it should be realized that not all Asians / tourists in general are gullible over payers, not all local Germans are like this guy. Heck, the reason why I read ISG in the first place was to get an understanding of who the good girls are, how to act, and what to pay when I visit an FKK. Though I am admittedly decently well off and can comfortably afford this hobby, I like a good deal as much as the next reasonable person. I'm able to get very cheap flights to Germany thanks to some deals I know of. Similarly, if I can meet a gorgeous Sharks girl who will give me everything I want at 50 E, you better believe I'll jump at the chance. This is what initially happened with my favorite.

If we're going to stereotype others, I find it odd that many of the locals who complain about overpaying girls seem ok to pay the 6 E per beer for multiple beers when you can get beer so cheaply outside of Sharks (one of the reasons I love Germany besides FKKs). Again, the issue with stereotypes, I'm very aware that many locals don't pay for beer at Sharks, just mentioning this at a counterpoint to the overpaying Asian stereotype and given that the guy who confronted me clearly had drank several beers.

In any case, I'll end this post by foreshadowing that there might be a god and that my trip took a turn for the best during the later part of yesterday, haha.

[QUOTE=RockyV;2212990]Some FKK girls do get tested regularly, but some others (like in the general population) wait until they get visible symptoms before they take action. Jnpr is right that not every guy who gets an STD discusses it in this forum, but some guys may not be aware they have caught something. You should consider that in almost 50% of people the three most common STDs do not give clear symptoms, but they can cause serious damage if they are not treated. My advice is to get tested regularly if you visit WGs, regardless of whether or not you have symptoms.

Rock.[/QUOTE]Most of the girls are making 0 tests just because they don't have AOK coverage and don't want to pay for it. Also there is no requirement to get tested some mongers believe that the girls are taking regular body check, not at all. Some girls are probably sick but still working in the clubs. Now if you don t do AO, the risk to get sick is quite low.

[QUOTE=TaoWay;2213373]I was planning on talking about the bad session now for the benefit of others, however, in reading my draft, I realized it would potentially reveal too much on who I am and potentially cause me hassle, as though she is bad, she is a favorite among the local Germans for reason that will become clear when I post details about her. If I say bad things about her, I'm fairly positive that if local Germans read this and they are at Sharks the same time I am, they will try to find out who I am from her to confront me and defend her honor, haha. .[/QUOTE]This is paranoid. Will practically never happen! The club is too big, there are too many tourists like you, plus nobody has in mind what people wrote here and then make a transfer of informations from here to the real world in the exact "right" moment. I am clubbing now for hmm let's say the last 8 years. I've never seen someone being court-martialed for the stuff he wrote in a forum like this. Never! Not even a special troll from Germany everybody hated, not even he was confronted.

[QUOTE]I do think that in addition to the sex hobbying, another hobby that a lot of guys do at FKKs is watching the other guys to see how much they pay. To stereotype, I particularly think a lot of local Germans do this.[/QUOTE]Nearly nobody does that. Too much traffic there, it is too dark also. If you have the feeling that someone watches, put your purse in the locker back in the backroom. That's the way I do it, never used the little safes in any club, nothing bad happened ever.

[QUOTE=XXL;2212764]LU better than Oase yesterday. The Latvia MILF with the big bouncing ass made my day. She got scooped up twice right before my eyes before I could be with her. She is one of the most popular girls at Sharks. She doesn't seem to discriminate in favour of any ethnicity as far as I could make out. She is some kind of opera buff and has other educated pursuits in life beside "working". She gave me a glimpse of the big house where she lives back home. Wow. I wish I owned such a place. As a monger I'd been told I was preying on distressed peasant waifs and lo, I'm frolicking with a lady who is above my station in life! I feel like a hero in a Stendhal novel.

I complained about the music being too loud around the pool and the volume was reduced. Wasps were out in force especially when the barbecue was served. Watching dignified late middle-age gentlemen barely getting a gulp between swats was funny.

Overnighting at Autobahnhotel Pfungstadt for 39 euros. I missed the place on my first pass despite google maps getting it right because it lies unfamiliarly within a motorway rest and tanking area. No WiFi. Tomorrow Paradise Saarbruecken.[/QUOTE]There today and the LU is less than appetizing. Nothing to do and feels really dead. Just terrible. Nothing to add. Sharks is nothing but a shadow of what it used to be a couple of years ago. Down it goes.

Wonderful day to be at Sharks. Made my semi annual pilgrimage. It was a cool comfortable day and got to enjoy the girls and all the meals. Pretty crowded with patrons and girls. Paid the reduced 50€ entry. Since I don't keep a journal I write here to remind myself.

Sabine -Moldavian tall, brunette with natural DS. Excellent English. I think she said she was 25 yo. Not the warmest, but is drop dead gorgeous in my opinion. 100€+10 for 1 hour. Since I'm a tourist I like to take my time and get the full treatment (tongue kisses, pussy licking, BBBJ etc.) when I'm here. Since she was my first I didn't last long, probably just after 30 min, so we chatted and she warmed up a bit. Would have gone Greek but finished too soon.

Kylie. Greek but German. Also tall brunette with large natural DDs. She's young and has been here for less than a year only. She is a sexpot. I think someone mentioned a slight acne problem but didn't bother me. Nice friendly disposition and seems to enjoy sex. Loved seeing her from behind. I was not finished at 30 min so I gladly extended to 1 hour. 100€+10. She tells me the Greeks call anal Turkish.

Angelina. Colombian but German. Short, curvy with enhanced tits and a great ass. Tattooed and beautiful dark complexion. Very friendly and clear about services -I took the GFE 45 min for 100€. Great cowgirl rider.

I've just completed my 3 month FKK romp and am leaving Germany with a heavy heart. My first couple weeks were my worse with upselling and poor service interspersed. However, as time went on I received much better service and for 50 euros. My theory is that initially the girls who were not around last year and thus saw me for the first time thought I was a short time visitor and perhaps unaware of the ropes and tried to stick me for what they could; however, with time they realized that I was there for the long haul and treated me like a local and gave excellent service for 50 euros. Of my 90 plus sessions more than 80 were for 50 euros. Also, of all my sessions only a handful were poor and the majority were very good with some excellent experiences which resulted in repeats.

In years gone by there were a greater percentage of non Romanians and I made it a practice to session mostly the non Romanians. Those days are no more, fully 96% of the girls are now Romanians and I sessioned the greatest number of Romanians by far this trip. I can state categorically that whatever bad reputation that may have been heaped on Romanians for unfavorable performance is totally unwarranted. I got excellent service from the majority of Romanians with no upselling in the room. On many occasions I gave a tip to the girls at the locker. Being there for 3 months I was disinclined to go for 100 euro one hour sessions. However, I will encourage the short term tourists to continue to go for 100 euro half hour sessions or 150/200 euro one hour sessions or more as I am reading they are inclined to do, the girls deserve it.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2213605]I've just completed my 3 month FKK romp and am leaving Germany with a heavy heart. My first couple weeks were my worse with upselling and poor service interspersed. However, as time went on I received much better service and for 50 euros. My theory is that initially the girls who were not around last year and thus saw me for the first time thought I was a short time visitor and perhaps unaware of the ropes and tried to stick me for what they could; however, with time they realized that I was there for the long haul and treated me like a local and gave excellent service for 50 euros. Of my 90 plus sessions more than 80 were for 50 euros. Also, of all my sessions only a handful were poor and the majority were very good with some excellent experiences which resulted in repeats.

In years gone by there were a greater percentage of non Romanians and I made it a practice to session mostly the non Romanians. Those days are no more, fully 96% of the girls are now Romanians and I sessioned the greatest number of Romanians by far this trip. I can state categorically that whatever bad reputation that may have been heaped on Romanians for unfavorable performance is totally unwarranted. I got excellent service from the majority of Romanians with no upselling in the room. On many occasions I gave a tip to the girls at the locker. Being there for 3 months I was disinclined to go for 100 euro one hour sessions. However, I will encourage the short term tourists to continue to go for 100 euro half hour sessions or 150/200 euro one hour sessions or more as I am reading they are inclined to do, the girls deserve it.[/QUOTE]Yes, many Romanian girls are lovely and honest. I have 6 more than 40 rooms and not for 30 mn, all are Romanian, at least on passport for one.

100 for 1 h is a good standard at Sharks, at GT You can have German girls for only 50 , and sometimes so hot that You get her for over 30 mn. On mid June at Sharks, I had a real top class, 25 yo Romanian beauty for 100 for 1 full GFE hour, 3 rooms with her, so no need to pay more for girls less classy and pretty than she was, except for extra of course. Not high upselling at Sharks, compare to little GND with average level in bed, at Oase.

[QUOTE=XXL;2212764]LU better than Oase yesterday. The Latvia MILF with the big bouncing ass made my day. She got scooped up twice right before my eyes before I could be with her. She is one of the most popular girls at Sharks. She doesn't seem to discriminate in favour of any ethnicity as far as I could make out. She is some kind of opera buff and has other educated pursuits in life beside "working". WiFi. Tomorrow Paradise Saarbruecken.[/QUOTE]I was at both Sharks and Oase. Its seems most of the girls have gone on holidays, during my visit to Sharks I noticed that everyone was going for the same dark hair Greek girl previously blonde (big boobs) at least from my last conversation she said she was Greek. The line up seemed really poor. As per the Latvia lady I did get a hint that she does discriminate, I'm not sure of your ethnicity? But I have it on good authority that she said she only sessions with certain nationalities / ethnicity. Having said that, its really a grey area, its none of my business who the girl decides to session with in the room its a free world. I'm looking to visit both clubs 13th - 17th September, will the line up really improve?

[QUOTE=Danny227;2213577]There today and the LU is less than appetizing. Nothing to do and feels really dead. Just terrible. Nothing to add. Sharks is nothing but a shadow of what it used to be a couple of years ago. Down it goes.[/QUOTE]Tastes seem very different, some find stunners for their eyes, you don't. I just know for any club in Germany, mid August is time for holidays for most of the best girls.

But, even I often criticized casting quality since 2017, but Sharks was the best casting on mid June I saw in Germany in 2018, and I spent 5 days on 2 week ends there, with my so selective eyes. For sure, when I saw her smile and blue eyes in the sun, for our breakfast, and her manners, even I had to make the job in room to make her feel relax with real will to please me back, but just a gift for 100 for 1 h. Even she was not motivated to work for everything asked for 50 or even 100 , but she never spoke about money for our 3 rooms. Kind of new Katalina / Kate at Globe for behavior, with big tits. Rare girl you can find in FKK land.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2213693]Tastes seem very different, some find stunners for their eyes, you don't. I just know for any club in Germany, mid August is time for holidays for most of the best girls.

But, even I often criticized casting quality since 2017, but Sharks was the best casting on mid June I saw in Germany in 2018, and I spent 5 days on 2 week ends there, with my so selective eyes. For sure, when I saw her smile and blue eyes in the sun, for our breakfast, and her manners, even I had to make the job in room to make her feel relax with real will to please me back, but just a gift for 100 for 1 h. Even she was not motivated to work for everything asked for 50 or even 100 , but she never spoke about money for our 3 rooms. Kind of new Katalina / Kate at Globe for behavior, with big tits. Rare girl you can find in FKK land.[/QUOTE]In mid June was a little more to do, but now it is dead. Maybe because it is summer and some girls are on vacation, I don't know. But, best casting for me now is for sure not Sharks. Very disappointing. Even mid June was OK, but far away from a couple of years ago. I think it is trending down.

[QUOTE=Stuggi;2213571]This is paranoid. Will practically never happen! The club is too big, there are too many tourists like you, plus nobody has in mind what people wrote here and then make a transfer of informations from here to the real world in the exact "right" moment. I am clubbing now for hmm let's say the last 8 years. I've never seen someone being court-martialed for the stuff he wrote in a forum like this. Never! Not even a special troll from Germany everybody hated, not even he was confronted.

Nearly nobody does that. Too much traffic there, it is too dark also. If you have the feeling that someone watches, put your purse in the locker back in the backroom. That's the way I do it, never used the little safes in any club, nothing bad happened ever.[/QUOTE]The big spenders just pay the girl in the room. No one is the wiser.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2213605] However, I will encourage the short term tourists to continue to go for 100 euro half hour sessions or 150/200 euro one hour sessions or more as I am reading they are inclined to do, the girls deserve it.[/QUOTE]Are you joking?

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2213693]Tastes seem very different, some find stunners for their eyes, you don't. I just know for any club in Germany, mid August is time for holidays for most of the best girls.

But, even I often criticized casting quality since 2017, but Sharks was the best casting on mid June I saw in Germany in 2018, and I spent 5 days on 2 week ends there, with my so selective eyes. For sure, when I saw her smile and blue eyes in the sun, for our breakfast, and her manners, even I had to make the job in room to make her feel relax with real will to please me back, but just a gift for 100 for 1 h. Even she was not motivated to work for everything asked for 50 or even 100 , but she never spoke about money for our 3 rooms. Kind of new Katalina / Kate at Globe for behavior, with big tits. Rare girl you can find in FKK land.[/QUOTE]Right even shark has the best LU in Germany it is very far from what it use to be, as forecasted the law of 2017 is impacting the number and quality of the girls, probably it will get worse in the coming years.

[QUOTE=XXL;2212764]LU better than Oase yesterday. The Latvia MILF with the big bouncing ass made my day. She got scooped up twice right before my eyes before I could be with her. She is one of the most popular girls at Sharks.[/QUOTE]Does the Latvian MILF have a name and what age would you say she is? Is she often there? Are there many MILFs (age 40 to 60) at Sharks?

When I was at Sharks for a weekend three weeks ago, the line-up of stunning girls was quite remarkable. Of the seven I sessioned with, four plus others I’d spoken with; informed me they were going back home to Romania for 4-6 weeks holiday through to September including the entire month of August.

Consequently my next visit is delayed until October when I return from Bucharest.

[QUOTE=TaoWay;2213373]If we're going to stereotype others, I find it odd that many of the locals who complain about overpaying girls seem ok to pay the 6 E per beer for multiple beers when you can get beer so cheaply outside of Sharks (one of the reasons I love Germany besides FKKs). Again, the issue with stereotypes, I'm very aware that many locals don't pay for beer at Sharks, just mentioning this at a counterpoint to the overpaying Asian stereotype and given that the guy who confronted me clearly had drank several beers.[/QUOTE]I don't see paying 6 EUR for beer as analogous. Restaurants, pubs, and cafes never sell drinks (alcoholic or non-alcoholic) at the same price for which they can be purchased at the supermarket. It is universally understood that when you drink in a restaurant, pub, and cafe, you are paying for the ambiance. I will admit that 6 EUR is a significant mark up. I just Googled 'getrankekarte' and Frankfurt and this was the first search result. This establishment charges a little under 5 EUR for half a liter. No idea how upscale or run down this place is: [URL]http://36gradfrankfurt.de/getraenkekarte/[/URL].

Also, I suspect the Sharks bartender pours exactly to the half-liter mark on the glass. They are not going to short-change you. When you check out at reception, they charge you exactly the 6 EUR as advertised on the menu. There are no hidden costs like an uncorking fee or bottle recycling fee. Meanwhile, Asians are stereotyped for getting rushed out of the room before 30 minute mark, getting charged for bogus extras or at the opposite end, just being whales.

Here's where you might have apples vs apples comparison: (1) If this German guy paid 2 EUR extra per beer, this might encourage Sharks to believe that 8 EUR is the new market rate for beer, and Shark management might raise their prices officially. (2) If this Germany guy had bought out a large portion of the supply without negotiating a 'bulk price' discount. We've already concluded that Sharks is overcharging by about 1-2 EUR for beer when compared to a normal restaurant in town. Someone buying out all their supply reinforces to Sharks management that they are justified in their pricing, thus rewarding Sharks for overpricing their beer.

[QUOTE=Pentire;2213807]When I was at Sharks for a weekend three weeks ago, the line-up of stunning girls was quite remarkable. Of the seven I sessioned with, four plus others Id spoken with; informed me they were going back home to Romania for 4-6 weeks holiday through to September including the entire month of August.

Consequently my next visit is delayed until October when I return from Bucharest.[/QUOTE]Average casting for me on Saturday 21 July, not at all on same level than mid June. No top class stunner. Fortunately, I found part timer, Romanian, 32 yo, Manou. Complicated with her in room, because she asked me for extra for my too intimate way to make love for sex, so I answered: OK, no problem, we can stop and I give you 50 for time. Not 30 mn yet. She looked at me and answered: No, I don t want we stop, she became so passionate after YamaYama, for sex. She deserved at least 1 h to enjoy such woman potential, she asked 50 for extra for intimate sex, she didn't have but she got 150 for 1h30 of passionate sex. She was full smiling all along after. Win win business. If she was a bit prettier face, I would have killed her for a second time for love in bed.

Judit. Hu, even pretty, was not on same woman level.

Difficult on this day to find attractive girls, but holidays time have started.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2213808] We've already concluded that Sharks is overcharging by about 1-2 EUR for beer when compared to a normal restaurant in town.[/QUOTE]I think if the normal places in town had topless women running around the could probably bump the price of beer by €1-2.

[QUOTE=Milfotronic;2213796]Does the Latvian MILF have a name and what age would you say she is? Is she often there? Are there many MILFs (age 40 to 60) at Sharks?[/QUOTE]Latvian, but slim Marina is close to 40. Exceptional in bed. Blond, white skin, sitting at the bar, close to restaurant.

Other Latvian is too fat for me.

For real MILF, you have to find Sylvana, maybe still at Paradise Sarrebrucken?

[QUOTE=Milfotronic;2213796]Does the Latvian MILF have a name and what age would you say she is? Is she often there? Are there many MILFs (age 40 to 60) at Sharks?[/QUOTE]Fucking MILF is like fucking is mother, Freud.

[QUOTE=TaoWay;2213373]However, after this wonderful session, when I went to pay her the 100 E, a local German watching the money lockers made an effort to come up to warn me (confront me) about being an overpaying Asian tourist. I think he thought he was doing it in a friendly manner, as he was slightly drunk, and maybe I'm being a little defensive, but I was quite taken back by his directness (I personally would call it rudeness, though I'm sure thought he was being helpful, the noble German knight in shining armor saving others from girls trying to charge more due to the misinformed Asian tourists). I simply replied back it was 100 E for a 1 HR session, I'm aware of the stereotype, and walked away. Sadly, I saw this happen a couple of other time to others.[/QUOTE]Interesting. It seems that some locals are trying to play the regulator role now. I will just ignore them. We are there for fun not for a debate.

[QUOTE=Milfotronic;2213796]Does the Latvian MILF have a name and what age would you say she is? Is she often there? Are there many MILFs (age 40 to 60) at Sharks?[/QUOTE]Don't remember her name. Easily spotted though, big bubble-butt with some cellulite. Pinched waist. No surgery from what I could tell, all natural.

[QUOTE=Milfotronic;2213796]Does the Latvian MILF have a name and what age would you say she is? Is she often there? Are there many MILFs (age 40 to 60) at Sharks?[/QUOTE]There's also Meggie from Romania, always sits around the bar mostly on the side near the restaurant area must be well into her forties. In my quest to do as many girls at Sharks as possible I sessioned her and it went remarkably well. There's also a Ukrainian whose name I cannot recall. There's Isabella who says she's from the Czech Republic and Ina from Romania, oh and there's Didi from Romania, also Eleanore from Romania, all very good lays.

[QUOTE=JennyKk;2214006]Interesting. It seems that some locals are trying to play the regulator role now. I will just ignore them. We are there for fun not for a debate.[/QUOTE]Who says that his story is true. Nobody is playing the regulator role in the clubs. Even if it's true it is just a solitary case. I've never seen stuff like that ever! And I am clubbing for many years now. As far as I can see some people are just a little paranoid, that's all.

And the debate is not a debate. It is pretty simple and common sense. Go there, have fun, spend some money for good work. But don't overpay every little handshake the girls are doing. Cause in the end you are ruining the prices for everyone and for yourself!

I guess no tourist is there to build up some friendships with locals. But never shit where you eat. If someone has the urge to play the "dicken Max" (being a show-off cause of inferiority complexes) then there will be something different than friendships I guess.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2213712]Are you joking?[/QUOTE]Hey, it's their money and I want the best for the girls, they were really good to me.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2213605] However, I will encourage the short term tourists to continue to go for 100 euro half hour sessions or 150/200 euro one hour sessions or more as I am reading they are inclined to do, the girls deserve it.[/QUOTE]I'm a short term tourist, but IMO the girl deserve a 50/30 minute. 100/60 . 150/90 . Etc.

If a girl is nice, a repeat is what makes her happy. Overpaying makes them greedy.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2213703]In mid June was a little more to do, but now it is dead. Maybe because it is summer and some girls are on vacation, I don't know. But, best casting for me now is for sure not Sharks. Very disappointing. Even mid June was OK, but far away from a couple of years ago. I think it is trending down.[/QUOTE]Sharks casting improved on 2014 , was on top on 2015 until Easter 2016 . Since November 2017 , I found some pretty girls like Florentina, Madi2 , Corina, Raïssa even I never repeat with upselling girls but I enjoyed with her, and a top class on June. She would have been my only girl, difficult for me to find pretty girls, but 1 is enough and better for me.

Wait and see on September, Globe is on top on this Summer, not too hot in rooms, I even got my regular for my first time on roof terrace under hot sun, it was so erotic to smell her natural. Wow room as always with her, often saying me: " Je t aime" , she changed a lot for me, maybe she will return to escort in Paris.

Thanks for the roster Taoway. Is the Karin you listed the one who works at Sharks a few years back? Or just someone with that name? Thanks.

[QUOTE=BadinSweet;2214035]Thanks for the roster Taoway. Is the Karin you listed the one who works at Sharks a few years back? Or just someone with that name? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Would be great if blond claiming to be from Valencia, Karin who left on Easter 2016 was back, but I think to remember she didn't like Sharks. But I think many Karin in FKK land, like many Aurelia who is on tour at Globe.

Top girls need a better money business than slow business on this Summer at Sharks, what I saw on my June and July visits: many girls, some really good, but waiting.

Kate doesn't wait for long at GT.

Went around 1800 went with Esther, impressive BBBJ for extra. Line up is OK. Figure this, once you spend extra word spreads quickly, not sure how but many girls asked me for a room. Network seems to faster than Ethernet among the girls.

[QUOTE=RichCandyMan;2214338]Went around 1800 went with Esther, impressive BBBJ for extra. Line up is OK. Figure this, once you spend extra word spreads quickly, not sure how but many girls asked me for a room. Network seems to faster than Ethernet among the girls.[/QUOTE]That's Universal for WG's. In the Far East its called the Bamboo Network. I forget what's it's called in Rio. Some have gotten calls after checking-in at their hotels or apartments! LOL.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2213712]Are you joking?[/QUOTE]Many girls don't give great service for 100. You need to give them 20 extra or for some type of service, and if you want the top girls, the going rate is 150 for 1 hour. Or alternatively, tel them 45 minutes for 100. That also works with some of them.

[QUOTE=RichCandyMan;2214338]Went around 1800 went with Esther, impressive BBBJ for extra. Line up is OK. Figure this, once you spend extra word spreads quickly, not sure how but many girls asked me for a room. Network seems to faster than Ethernet among the girls.[/QUOTE]If a girl tells me that she wants extra for a BBBJ, I turn her down quicker than she can spell extra LOL.

BBBJ is an absolute standard in FKK Clubs, even in our new times.

At Sirioja, or anyone else, maybe you can help me answer this.

Which FKK would you recommend between Sharks, Globe, and / or Wellcum? Here is my situation:

I am a 27 year old Asian American guy looking to spend 5-7 days primarily at a FKK. I don't really want to spend time traveling between different FKKs so I just want to stick with one for my entire trip. Originally, it seemed to me that Sharks and Oase were the top 2 that I should consider, but after reading some of the recent reviews, I am not so sure. It seems like the lineups can be completely hit or miss depending on the day.

From what I can gather, Globe seems to be #1 in terms of everyday lineup looks and service, but at a cost. This will be my first trip so I am fine with paying more to get the best experience. I saw some videos of Globe (uploaded to porn sites found via Google) and it looks amazing. Should I be going to Globe instead of Sharks for my first trip? Or will Sharks be okay for me? I like the dark-haired Romanian physique but I would also like to try out other hair colors as well. I am a tall fit guy so my main preferences are tall, long legs, and not fat. All the girls from the Globe website look 10/10. Based on reviews, it looks like it's hit or miss with the lineup at Sharks.

I didn't really consider Wellcum but they have a cool hotel attached to their building that looks interesting.

[QUOTE=RichCandyMan;2214338]Went around 1800 went with Esther, impressive BBBJ for extra. Line up is OK. Figure this, once you spend extra word spreads quickly, not sure how but many girls asked me for a room. Network seems to faster than Ethernet among the girls.[/QUOTE]Your popularity will quickly increase once you gain a reputation with the girls for parting easily with money. They always appreciate an overpayer. Not something to boast about on a forum like this as many members tend to take this as an indication of a lack of ability with regard to how the overpayer handles himself in the FKK / Sauna Club environment I. E. An easy mark for the girls. Definitely not something to talk loudly about and particularly when in an FKK club. Locals also won't appreciate tourists driving up prices. Rates in Spain which were Euro 50/60 per half hour are now at Euro 100 per half hour (for every half hour) in some of the bigger establishments on the Spanish Costa Del Sol and also Madrid. Rates in Switzerland are even higher. It may only be a matter of a short time for this pricing structure to reach Germany. No need to encourage it. I wish you well.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2214489]Many girls don't give great service for 100. You need to give them 20 extra or for some type of service, and if you want the top girls, the going rate is 150 for 1 hour. Or alternatively, tel them 45 minutes for 100. That also works with some of them.[/QUOTE]At Sharks, usually it works for me for 100 for 1 h with few girls attractive enough for me. When high level enough, I extend to take my time to taste and enjoy more. 150 is for 1 h30 for me.

[QUOTE=DownToBuck;2214532]If a girl tells me that she wants extra for a BBBJ, I turn her down quicker than she can spell extra LOL.

BBBJ is an absolute standard in FKK Clubs, even in our new times.[/QUOTE]Are you really sure about it, if you are not a regular and if it is a sexy girls 0 chance to get a BBBJ in a 50 euro session.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2214745]At Sharks, usually it works for me for 100 for 1 h with few girls attractive enough for me. When high level enough, I extend to take my time to taste and enjoy more. 150 is for 1 h30 for me.[/QUOTE]Some girls will do that and better chances when they know you, but the percentage of top girls who do it is very low. Those rate are at the end of the line.

I was hoping someone could help me with a name please, brunette girl, slim, early 20's. Normally sits at the bar, would have her back to the dance pole if she was sat facing the bar. Friends with Melanie, she seems to have lots of threesomes (not necessarily with Melanie being the other girl).

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2214745]At Sharks, usually it works for me for 100 for 1 h with few girls attractive enough for me. When high level enough, I extend to take my time to taste and enjoy more. 150 is for 1 h30 for me.[/QUOTE]You know what you are doing and how to handle the girls. Many guys are unable to do this and cave in if they meet any sort of resistance or pressure for extra money. This is particularly prevalent among travelers from Asia or the USA where the price of pussy in Germany seems inexpensive in comparison to what the cost is in their home countries. Also these guys are not necessarily going to visit FKK-Land very often and the trip to Germany is in itself a bit of a money splurge. Problem is once you start paying Euro 100 for the first half hour, pretty soon you will end up paying Euro 100 for the second half hour and for every other half hour you stay in the room. The pricing structure in Germany is beginning to break down and it is only the resistance of the local market (I. E. German club visitors) that is preventing prices from shooting upwards.

[QUOTE=BootyJuice;2214585]At Sirioja, or anyone else, maybe you can help me answer this.

Which FKK would you recommend between Sharks, Globe, and / or Wellcum? Here is my situation:

I am a 27 year old Asian American guy looking to spend 5-7 days primarily at a FKK. I don't really want to spend time traveling between different FKKs so I just want to stick with one for my entire trip. Originally, it seemed to me that Sharks and Oase were the top 2 that I should consider, but after reading some of the recent reviews, I am not so sure. It seems like the lineups can be completely hit or miss depending on the day.

From what I can gather, Globe seems to be #1 in terms of everyday lineup looks and service, but at a cost. This will be my first trip so I am fine with paying more to get the best experience. I saw some videos of Globe (uploaded to porn sites found via Google) and it looks amazing. Should I be going to Globe instead of Sharks for my first trip? Or will Sharks be okay for me? I like the dark-haired Romanian physique but I would also like to try out other hair colors as well. I am a tall fit guy so my main preferences are tall, long legs, and not fat. All the girls from the Globe website look 10/10. Based on reviews, it looks like it's hit or miss with the lineup at Sharks.

I didn't really consider Wellcum but they have a cool hotel attached to their building that looks interesting.[/QUOTE]Only my subjective tastes of course, but Wellcum on Summer 2018 is not on same level than on 2017 and don't worth a 5 days visit, or you have to fall in love for a girl. Little doll what the fuck is fire in bed, but not same charm than Lena who made me dream on last August.

Lf you are rich, for sure Globe is higher level than in Germany for looks and level in bed, but more expensive = 130 €/30 mn. Also Bumsalp close to Globe and bar Aphrodisia in Zurich city.

For Sharks, better to wait mid September to have girls returning from holidays.

Compare to American girls, you should find Romanian girls, with many slim, some with no silicon, nor botox, really pretty.

[QUOTE=DerAuslander;2214789]You know what you are doing and how to handle the girls. Many guys are unable to do this and cave in if they meet any sort of resistance or pressure for extra money. This is particularly prevalent among travelers from Asia or the USA where the price of pussy in Germany seems inexpensive in comparison to what the cost is in their home countries. Also these guys are not necessarily going to visit FKK-Land very often and the trip to Germany is in itself a bit of a money splurge. Problem is once you start paying Euro 100 for the first half hour, pretty soon you will end up paying Euro 100 for the second half hour and for every other half hour you stay in the room. The pricing structure in Germany is beginning to break down and it is only the resistance of the local market (I. E. German club visitors) that is preventing prices from shooting upwards.[/QUOTE]I don't find big upselling at Sharks, Sharks is not Oase. On my last visits, I was surprised to see Asians refusing Asians hunting girls, when they followed girls like little boys before, they seem to have learned from experiences.

Business at Sharks seem also a bit slow for girls.

[QUOTE=BootyJuice;2214585]At Sirioja, or anyone else, maybe you can help me answer this.

Which FKK would you recommend between Sharks, Globe, and / or Wellcum? Here is my situation:

I am a 27 year old Asian American guy looking to spend 5-7 days primarily at a FKK. I don't really want to spend time traveling between different FKKs so I just want to stick with one for my entire trip. Originally, it seemed to me that Sharks and Oase were the top 2 that I should consider, but after reading some of the recent reviews, I am not so sure. It seems like the lineups can be completely hit or miss depending on the day.

From what I can gather, Globe seems to be #1 in terms of everyday lineup looks and service, but at a cost. This will be my first trip so I am fine with paying more to get the best experience. I saw some videos of Globe (uploaded to porn sites found via Google) and it looks amazing. Should I be going to Globe instead of Sharks for my first trip? Or will Sharks be okay for me? I like the dark-haired Romanian physique but I would also like to try out other hair colors as well. I am a tall fit guy so my main preferences are tall, long legs, and not fat. All the girls from the Globe website look 10/10. Based on reviews, it looks like it's hit or miss with the lineup at Sharks.

I didn't really consider Wellcum but they have a cool hotel attached to their building that looks interesting.[/QUOTE]If you can afford Globe, go for it. Quality and service is much better. No upselling or ripoffs.

[QUOTE=BootyJuice;2214585]At Sirioja, or anyone else, maybe you can help me answer this.

Which FKK would you recommend between Sharks, Globe, and / or Wellcum? Here is my situation:

I am a 27 year old Asian American guy looking to spend 5-7 days primarily at a FKK. I don't really want to spend time traveling between different FKKs so I just want to stick with one for my entire trip. Originally, it seemed to me that Sharks and Oase were the top 2 that I should consider, but after reading some of the recent reviews, I am not so sure. It seems like the lineups can be completely hit or miss depending on the day.

From what I can gather, Globe seems to be #1 in terms of everyday lineup looks and service, but at a cost. This will be my first trip so I am fine with paying more to get the best experience. I saw some videos of Globe (uploaded to porn sites found via Google) and it looks amazing. Should I be going to Globe instead of Sharks for my first trip? Or will Sharks be okay for me? I like the dark-haired Romanian physique but I would also like to try out other hair colors as well. I am a tall fit guy so my main preferences are tall, long legs, and not fat. All the girls from the Globe website look 10/10. Based on reviews, it looks like it's hit or miss with the lineup at Sharks.

I didn't really consider Wellcum but they have a cool hotel attached to their building that looks interesting.[/QUOTE]First, in Zurich or Frankfurt you can easily go to different FKKs without much hassle, at Wellcum its a bit more difficult. The Lineup IMHO is best at Globe (but even at Globe sometimes the lineup is not so good), I would rate Wellcum second and Sharks / Oase third. Service is best at Globe, whereas in Austria and Germany girls try to sell extras (if you take extras girls in Germany are almost as expensive as in Switzerland) and give not so good service compared to Switzerland (quite some girls in Germany don't kiss whereas at Globe all kiss. Its standard service). So if money is no problem I would prefer Globe. BUT Globe has one big problem: the best girls are often booked. Last week I managed to go to the room with a girl who was booked from 3 pm until the end by ONE customer, so I only got her because I arrived early enough. This is more or less the same for all girls, you can only get them if they are not booked and that means you have to be there really early (Globe opens at 11 am. I would suggest be there latest at 1 pm-2 pm; at 3 pm quite some girls vanish into the rooms / have bookings; after 8 pm sometimes there are only a few girls visible and most are in the room). Also as soon as you know a good provider consider booking her yourself at the reception. In Germany bookings are not so common and can only be done by directly speaking with the girls so this problem is not so grave there.

At all clubs the number of girls vary during the week. At Globe expect around 40 girls SO, MO, TU, WE and 50 girls or more on TH, FR, SA. At other clubs its similar with some exceptions like Wednesday at Sharks being quite full of girls and customers because of the lower entry fee.

If you want public sex, Globe is the way to go. If you want outdoor action, Globe is not that good, Sharks and Oase are better. Sharks, Oasee and Wellcum have an outdoor pool to swim a bit. Globe doesn't have one. Food is best at Wellcum. Facilities are best at Wellcum too, followed by Sharks.

By the way, the tallest girl I know at the moment is german Lana (slim, blonde, no silicon, lots of tattoos) at Club Globe being 180 cm without shoes. The romanians are normally 160-170 cm.

Sharks, Oase and Wellcum have special offers if you buy multiple entry tickets at once (check their website). Can save you a bit of money if you go there for a week.

[QUOTE=DerAuslander;2214728]Your popularity will quickly increase once you gain a reputation with the girls for parting easily with money. They always appreciate an overpayer. Not something to boast about on a forum like this as many members tend to take this as an indication of a lack of ability with regard to how the overpayer handles himself in the FKK / Sauna Club environment I. E. An easy mark for the girls. Definitely not something to talk loudly about and particularly when in an FKK club. Locals also won't appreciate tourists driving up prices. Rates in Spain which were Euro 50/60 per half hour are now at Euro 100 per half hour (for every half hour) in some of the bigger establishments on the Spanish Costa Del Sol and also Madrid. Rates in Switzerland are even higher. It may only be a matter of a short time for this pricing structure to reach Germany. No need to encourage it. I wish you well.[/QUOTE]Sir,

No offense but have you seen this girl, she is tall beautiful woman, I am only 120 cm tall midget, if I tell you her hair smells nice you know what hair I am talking about.

I understand first time paying this price and will be careful with money for both regulars and visitors. But sometimes you let your dick do all the thinking and you know that happens more time than you think.

[QUOTE=BootyJuice;2214585]At Sirioja, or anyone else, maybe you can help me answer this.

Which FKK would you recommend between Sharks, Globe, and / or Wellcum? Here is my situation:

I am a 27 year old Asian American guy looking to spend 5-7 days primarily at a FKK. I don't really want to spend time traveling between different FKKs so I just want to stick with one for my entire trip. Originally, it seemed to me that Sharks and Oase were the top 2 that I should consider, but after reading some of the recent reviews, I am not so sure. It seems like the lineups can be completely hit or miss depending on the day.

From what I can gather, Globe seems to be #1 in terms of everyday lineup looks and service, but at a cost. This will be my first trip so I am fine with paying more to get the best experience. I saw some videos of Globe (uploaded to porn sites found via Google) and it looks amazing. Should I be going to Globe instead of Sharks for my first trip? Or will Sharks be okay for me? I like the dark-haired Romanian physique but I would also like to try out other hair colors as well. I am a tall fit guy so my main preferences are tall, long legs, and not fat. All the girls from the Globe website look 10/10. Based on reviews, it looks like it's hit or miss with the lineup at Sharks.

I didn't really consider Wellcum but they have a cool hotel attached to their building that looks interesting.[/QUOTE]I recommend you not to stick at the same club it will be so boring, rent a car and travel around, never forget that 80 percent of the girls are from Romania. Visit Shark, Oase, World, Samya and may be Paradise or Sakura so you will get a nice overview, try to arrive at opening hours and stay the all day in the same club.

I agree with Sirioja. Wellcum disappointed a little this time. Maximum 2 days worth there. There are a few options, but not too many. Best service girls are 30+ even after Natali left (unless she returns of course) good that there are a few milfs, but the sub 25 yo crowd has stuff to learn in bed and / or got to loose the annoying upselling or complains about big dick. At least with superstar Soraya gone, this club has taken a big hit, which seems very hard to fill. To me, it has lost its 3 star rating. And lineup is not any stronger than the best German clubs on a strong day.

If you have a car there you can mix it up with a visit at marina and one at Andiamo too. Maybe the final fifth day at the club where you found your best girl, but right now there is far from a given that Wellcum is that club even if there are good to great girls there too.

[QUOTE=Saturn11;2214782]I was hoping someone could help me with a name please, brunette girl, slim, early 20's. Normally sits at the bar, would have her back to the dance pole if she was sat facing the bar. Friends with Melanie, she seems to have lots of threesomes (not necessarily with Melanie being the other girl).[/QUOTE]Melanie normally sits with Scarlett and Emma. Both are slim, pretty and in early 20's. Scarlett is blonde and was present yesterday. Emma is dark blond, looks like Cara Delevingne, and is still on vacation according to a girl I asked. Melanie has put on weight and is now flabby.

Which club can find big ass girl? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Steppenwolf11;2214853]First, in Zurich or Frankfurt you can easily go to different FKKs without much hassle, at Wellcum its a bit more difficult. The Lineup IMHO is best at Globe (but even at Globe sometimes the lineup is not so good), I would rate Wellcum second and Sharks / Oase third. Service is best at Globe, whereas in Austria and Germany girls try to sell extras (if you take extras girls in Germany are almost as expensive as in Switzerland) and give not so good service compared to Switzerland (quite some girls in Germany don't kiss whereas at Globe all kiss. Its standard service). So if money is no problem I would prefer Globe. BUT Globe has one big problem: the best girls are often booked. Last week I managed to go to the room with a girl who was booked from 3 pm until the end by ONE customer, so I only got her because I arrived early enough. This is more or less the same for all girls, you can only get them if they are not booked and that means you have to be there really early (Globe opens at 11 am. I would suggest be there latest at 1 pm-2 pm; at 3 pm quite some girls vanish into the rooms / have bookings; after 8 pm sometimes there are only a few girls visible and most are in the room). Also as soon as you know a good provider consider booking her yourself at the reception. In Germany bookings are not so common and can only be done by directly speaking with the girls so this problem is not so grave there.

At all clubs the number of girls vary during the week. At Globe expect around 40 girls SO, MO, TU, WE and 50 girls or more on TH, FR, SA. At other clubs its similar with some exceptions like Wednesday at Sharks being quite full of girls and customers because of the lower entry fee.[/QUOTE]If you are into tall slim German girls, model type, some at GT Bruggen: Rose, Gigi.

Lana was not so busy on Tuesday 31 July and Thursday 9 August. I never experienced couldn't touch girl I wanted at Globe, maybe because I often go with same girls and they come to me when they see me, even I m not a big money client at Globe. I had to wait for Kate for 6 hours on our first time, on a Monday at Sharks, but it did worth so much, I followed her at Globe. Now she knows I don t like to wait for my girls or I don't go, after we went again together on 9 August for amazing sweet time. Same with all my girls in all clubs.

For sure, Globe can t compete for the club with Wellcum, Sharks or Oase, I really miss past inside warm swimming pool, to recover from all injuries, now Mainhattan area is quite useless, but can compete for foods for me who eat pasta to prepare my sports, but aren't girls level the most important to get pleasure? I don t experience because I usually don t go for 30 mn, but I read about girls at Sharks or Oase asking for 100 for 30 mn, versus 130/30 mn with top level girls at Globe. Small brother History Basel Liestal on German border, with outdoor swimming pool, have entry, but no foods, for 65 CHF = less than 60 € , and girls for 89 CHF / full GFE 30 mn = less than 80€ . Less girls than at Globe, but I had Lorena for really wow girl there, some really pretty like Andrea who was really good in bed, Mady who was my first GF there, with 2 rooms on my first visit and refusing a regular at night to repeat with me, he was upset in lockers when club was closing. No upselling for Mady at History, when I left the room with her after 15 mn at Oase. High quality for my visits at History, on Saturday I think it was 17 December 2016 , I left Globe with average casting to move to History and found 5 top beauties there, I was crazy because from 9 pm to 2 am I could have only 3 of them, each for 1 h and having to start with Mady, had also high level rooms at 2 other small brothers, Swiss Dietikon and Westside Frauenfeld close to German border, where girls are for 100 CHF = less than 90 €.

Switzerland is high quality and sometimes not much more expensive than Germany or Austria. Wellcum girls are for 70/30 mn with many not kissing, because Italians prefer to be sucked than kissing as say girls. They may be the Asian Europeans.

Thanks Sirioja and Steppenwolf11 for the feedback! I will start planning for a trip to Globe in November / December.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2214813].......................I was surprised to see Asians refusing Asians hunting girls.................[/QUOTE]Those were in the minority, the majority still act like kids in a toy store including one guy who I heard shout 'SHARKS' while he was walking towards the club.

[QUOTE=BootyJuice;2214993]Thanks Sirioja and Steppenwolf11 for the feedback! I will start planning for a trip to Globe in November / December.[/QUOTE]Hi Bootyjuice,

I'm also planning a FKK trip to German. If you want we can plan it together. Makes more fun with buddy.

I'm also 30 years and from Asia.

If your interested then message me.

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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2214942] Now she knows I don t like to wait for my girls or I don't go, [/QUOTE]So if you arrive and the lady you prefer, who can be one of the most popular in the club, is busy with a client and has a couple waiting in the queue, you expect to be shuffled to the front or you won't session with her? I could understand expecting not to wait if you are early in the club or have pre-booked or set the expectation for your arrival at a certain day and time. Even my favorites are occasionally prebooked by another bear, so I have to sometimes wait. You witnessed this at LR, but unfortunately that day I had to deliver a friend to GT by a certain time so I was gone when she returned to the lounge. Later that day when I returned for her she was very appreciative. For me, they are WGs and none of them are mine, even if they are my favorite. They are there for their job, to make the most money possible. If that means they are booked for 8 hours by a whale, then I will enjoy the other offerings while I wait. If she comes to me when she finishes, and I still have a shot left in me, then I run my personal grooming routine and off we go.

[QUOTE=Chongmal;2215180]So if you arrive and the lady you prefer, who can be one of the most popular in the club, is busy with a client and has a couple waiting in the queue, you expect to be shuffled to the front or you won't session with her? I could understand expecting not to wait if you are early in the club or have pre-booked or set the expectation for your arrival at a certain day and time. Even my favorites are occasionally prebooked by another bear, so I have to sometimes wait. You witnessed this at LR, but unfortunately that day I had to deliver a friend to GT by a certain time so I was gone when she returned to the lounge. Later that day when I returned for her she was very appreciative. For me, they are WGs and none of them are mine, even if they are my favorite. They are there for their job, to make the most money possible. If that means they are booked for 8 hours by a whale, then I will enjoy the other offerings while I wait. If she comes to me when she finishes, and I still have a shot left in me, then I run my personal grooming routine and off we go.[/QUOTE]0 interest for me to queue for a girl, also I have the phone from the girl and make a appointment so I am the first guy of the day I don't like to be the 5 or 10th.

Fifth stop of my FKK vacation.

After getting so disappointed at Rom I decided to visit Sharks, which is not far away from Rom.

My 2nd time at Sharks and it's as good as I remember. Many many model-like girls. Quite a bit of upselling though (well, it is called Sharks.).

Had three sessions. One of them is with a 20-year old Romanian sweetie. Tall, slim, short curvy blonde hair. Didn't catch the name. She upsold me quite a bit, but since she is exactly my type, I took the deal, and had a nice time that included everything (DATY, DFE, regular massage, lingam massage, anal, some light SM, and all positions).

[QUOTE=Mybtmybt;2214936]Which club can find big ass girl? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Some at Sharks, but not my types. I like round, not flat, ass, but not big or fat.

Anybody knows if I'm going to find Leah (DE) this Friday? Does she usually work on weekdays?

Anyone know if Adina (ex-World) is working in another club? Have not seen her (or her sister) in Sharks for a few months.

[QUOTE=DerAuslander;2215487]Anyone know if Adina (ex-World) is working in another club? Have not seen her (or her sister) in Sharks for a few months.[/QUOTE]Last time I went with her in Sharks was in the first half of December 2016! Second half of December 2016 she had already left the club. Adina had already talked about stopping to work one year earlier.

Her sister I saw several times in 2017 at Sharks.

So, maybe Adina really stopped working, at least in Germany.

If anyone has additional infos, I would appreciate knowing too!

[QUOTE=Mangga;2215485]Anybody knows if I'm going to find Leah (DE) this Friday? Does she usually work on weekdays?[/QUOTE]I saw her on Wednesday 15. Always busy.

[QUOTE=DerAuslander;2215487]Anyone know if Adina (ex-World) is working in another club? Have not seen her (or her sister) in Sharks for a few months.[/QUOTE]I don't think it is her sister, but if that's the one I think, she is in Oase.

[QUOTE=Danny227;2214776]Some girls will do that and better chances when they know you, but the percentage of top girls who do it is very low. Those rate are at the end of the line.[/QUOTE]I'm not anymore a very regular at Sharks, even girls remember the dangerous writer, I don't go for low level, little GND, 50 for them is too expensive for me, but when I succeed to find a attractive woman type, I know how to manage with real women or mum and they are usually more smart than little girls or pornstars types. Usually, smart girls don t speak about money, don't upsell, they prefer to make you come back. I don t return with upselling girls even when they are good like Madi2 on 23 December, or Raïssa on 2018. Manou preferred we stayed in room rather than 50 extra to make her love in bed, and she became a very deep, passionate kisser in missionary with eyes flying in clouds.

Not big upselling for me at Sharks, I just need a beauty with elegant, charming manners, like my June Eve or Florentina on end of 2017.

[QUOTE=Kdnyc25;2215390]Fifth stop of my FKK vacation.

After getting so disappointed at Rom I decided to visit Sharks, which is not far away from Rom.

My 2nd time at Sharks and it's as good as I remember. Many many model-like girls. Quite a bit of upselling though (well, it is called Sharks.).

Had three sessions. One of them is with a 20-year old Romanian sweetie. Tall, slim, short curvy blonde hair. Didn't catch the name. She upsold me quite a bit, but since she is exactly my type, I took the deal, and had a nice time that included everything (DATY, DFE, regular massage, lingam massage, anal, some light SM, and all positions).[/QUOTE]When you say quite a bit of upselling in Sharks, but it is not that suddenly the Service becomes bad the moment you say No to them? Right it is like a gentle upselling? Or did it change their mood completely if you said No to upselling?

Any whereabouts known of the Red Haired Maya who used to work in Sharks in 2014-2015 don't know after that. Is she currently also there? Very submissive kinda girl, liked here approach and submissive approach! Miss her big time! Any replacement like her fellas?

I wonder if the upselling at sharks this year has made the girls earn more or less than say one year ago. One year ago Sharks was the number one income club for FKK girls in Germany I believe. Mainly due to tourists, but I think also due to a low upselling reputation.

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2214904]Melanie normally sits with Scarlett and Emma. Both are slim, pretty and in early 20's. Scarlett is blonde and was present yesterday. Emma is dark blond, looks like Cara Delevingne, and is still on vacation according to a girl I asked. Melanie has put on weight and is now flabby.[/QUOTE]I still remember a zimmer w Melanie 2 years ago. Thought she had a fab body at the time. Sorry to hear she's getting flabby. I was kind of looking fwd to a repeat.

Planning a visit to Sharks in the coming weeks: How does it work with (non-erotic) massage at Sharks (price, how do you book a time? Quality?

I liked the outdoor beds (to the left as you look out from the main building) for some semi-public sex. I recall they were closed at darkness- still the case or are the lights on and can they be used a warm late summer night?

Thanks.

T.

Is Barbie back is sharks?

[QUOTE=Pistons;2216157]I wonder if the upselling at sharks this year has made the girls earn more or less than say one year ago. One year ago Sharks was the number one income club for FKK girls in Germany I believe. Mainly due to tourists, but I think also due to a low upselling reputation.[/QUOTE]Difficult to answer because the girls are always complaining about bad business, girls who are not willing to fuck 20 times a day for 50 euros are probably earning less, more and more mongers with migration background just going for 50 euros sessions without any extra.

At Danny227:

Barbie has been working in Golden Time the last few weeks, she uses the same "name" there. Jana&Tessa (formerly Sharks) are in GT as well.

Anyone know if Ester, Elif, Evelina, and Evita still at Sharks in September?

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2212943]It must be a joke right? It is possible to get STD in such clubs? I thought that these places were the last to worry for such things.[/QUOTE]Haha. Let's be realistic. Probability wise it's highly possible to get all kinds of STDs in such clubs unless it's fatal. You can't have your cake and eat it. Right? Hope you can control your risk appropriately. At least I strongly suggest to you that you should take blood tests every three months. That's the least thing you could do as a FKK visitor. Let us not contaminate & destroy men's paradise. After enjoying GFE like BBBJ, DATY, DFK and 69, it would not too much to say you enjoyed Russian roulette without real gun. Need to remember we all weren't born yesterday. Damage control should be done swiftly & completely.

[QUOTE=Jooeey;2215785]When you say quite a bit of upselling in Sharks, but it is not that suddenly the Service becomes bad the moment you say No to them? Right it is like a gentle upselling? Or did it change their mood completely if you said No to upselling?[/QUOTE]I had no problem saying no to upselling. The girls I met didn't give me a hard time when I refused to their upselling. But YMMV.

[QUOTE=HiroHirox;2216676]Haha. Let's be realistic. Probability wise it's highly possible to get all kinds of STDs in such clubs unless it's fatal. You can't have your cake and eat it. Right? Hope you can control your risk appropriately. At least I strongly suggest to you that you should take blood tests every three months. That's the least thing you could do as a FKK visitor. Let us not contaminate & destroy men's paradise. After enjoying GFE like BBBJ, DATY, DFK and 69, it would not too much to say you enjoyed Russian roulette without real gun. Need to remember we all weren't born yesterday. Damage control should be done swiftly & completely.[/QUOTE]Yes unfortunately it's so true. Quite apart from always using a condom for intercourse, there are numerous bacterial infections which can be transmitted through any of the very enjoyable aforementioned interactions. Especially with a prolific, career sex worker of the type we meet in this business of pleasure at FKK Clubs.

Our luxurious hobby can be a dangerous game even when observed within the obvious guidelines. I for one have a meeting with a home country medic 4-6 weeks after an FKK weekend in order to be screened for all the nasty stuff known to be in circulation.

Still my fav club. Love the facilities, food and optics.

In summary:

7 hours spent.

100€ for 30 min with DFK DATY & CIM asianistique looking Romanian, huge boobs the for her chassis as she seems size zero.

50€ for 30 min with a Romanian with no DFK, but DATY and good old service were there. Gracika.

60€ + 10 tip for 60 min massage with the cute Asian masseuse.

Buzzing with me and girls as well.

I spotted a Venus beauty busty curvy red head who was busy from 6 pm till she left with mostly 10-15 min sessions till a guy grabbed her and ordered a Champaign and she stayed with him and his friends till she left.

I asked and was told her name is Ayleen / Aylyn / Aylin.

Any reports about her?

[QUOTE=Yoksha;2216885]Still my fav club. Love the facilities, food and optics.

In summary:

7 hours spent.

100 for 30 min with DFK DATY & CIM asianistique looking Romanian, huge boobs the for her chassis as she seems size zero.

50 for 30 min with a Romanian with no DFK, but DATY and good old service were there. Gracika.

60 + 10 tip for 60 min massage with the cute Asian masseuse.

Buzzing with me and girls as well.

I spotted a Venus beauty busty curvy red head who was busy from 6 pm till she left with mostly 10-15 min sessions till a guy grabbed her and ordered a Champaign and she stayed with him and his friends till she left.

I asked and was told her name is Ayleen / Aylyn / Aylin.

Any reports about her?[/QUOTE]Maybe Austria Aylin now silicon? Sitting close to ex kino.

Maybe other big tits with a bit Asiatic face is Brenda / Lea, staying at the bar on entry side.

[QUOTE=Yoksha;2216885]Still my fav club. Love the facilities, food and optics.

In summary:

7 hours spent.

100 for 30 min with DFK DATY & CIM asianistique looking Romanian, huge boobs the for her chassis as she seems size zero.

50 for 30 min with a Romanian with no DFK, but DATY and good old service were there. Gracika.

60 + 10 tip for 60 min massage with the cute Asian masseuse.

Buzzing with me and girls as well.

I spotted a Venus beauty busty curvy red head who was busy from 6 pm till she left with mostly 10-15 min sessions till a guy grabbed her and ordered a Champaign and she stayed with him and his friends till she left.

I asked and was told her name is Ayleen / Aylyn / Aylin.

Any reports about her?[/QUOTE]She is okay, but a bit chubby. Nice and romantic GFE, however she said my dick was too big for anal.

[QUOTE=SpermBirds;2216631]At Danny227:

Barbie has been working in Golden Time the last few weeks, she uses the same "name" there. Jana&Tessa (formerly Sharks) are in GT as well.[/QUOTE]Thanks! I know that Barbie works at GT, but every few weeks comes to sharks for a bit and goes back.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2215508]Last time I went with her in Sharks was in the first half of December 2016! Second half of December 2016 she had already left the club. Adina had already talked about stopping to work one year earlier.

Her sister I saw several times in 2017 at Sharks.

So, maybe Adina really stopped working, at least in Germany.

If anyone has additional infos, I would appreciate knowing too![/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply Nick. How time has flown! I did not realize Adina was so long out of Sharks. Im not up in Frankfurt so much these days. More down in Munich / Stuttgart direction. I did see her sister and the rest of the crew Adina hung with (and who came with her from World) throughout 2017 but now they all seem to have disappeared from Sharks as well. Not sure anyone on ISG will know who we are talking about as Adina always seemed to be under the radar and never seemed to attract headlines like Evita or Roxanna (which suited me). Adina was a real diamond which nobody (on this forum) seemed to know about. Might be best to ask this question on the German forums as it seems unlikely we will discover any further information on ISG; but you never know! I will let you know if I hear anything, maybe you might do the same. Incidentally you and I have met. Several years ago in FKK World! Anyway thanks again.

[QUOTE=DerAuslander;2217021] Not sure anyone on ISG will know who we are talking about as Adina always seemed to be under the radar and never seemed to attract headlines like Evita or Roxanna (which suited me). Adina was a real diamond which nobody (on this forum) seemed to know about.[/QUOTE]Did this Adina, as you say formerly having worked for a few years (the good years!) at World, have a tattoo configuration consisting of Chinese (or Japanese?) letters down her backbone? If so: I can confirm she was hot, hot, hot in bed!

[QUOTE=DerAuslander;2217021]I did see her sister and the rest of the crew Adina hung with (and who came with her from World) throughout 2017 but now they all seem to have disappeared from Sharks as well. Not sure anyone on ISG will know who we are talking about as Adina always seemed to be under the radar and never seemed to attract headlines like Evita or Roxanna (which suited me). Adina was a real diamond which nobody (on this forum) seemed to know about. [/QUOTE]I have been with Adina many times both at World and Sharks. Last time was October 2016. The last one of her crew I saw was Antonia and she was at Sharks by herself for a while. Time flies by but I would say I saw Antonia last in November 2017.

Girls seen by me this weekend. More girls recognized but this is the names I am sure of. Tried 3 new girls except for my usual favourites. Have no complaints in service. I am a 1-hour-guy.

Aileen.

Kylie.

Neya.

Paloma.

Gabriella.

Denisa.

Larissa.

Enya.

Yellis.

Hanna.

Dea.

Jessica.

Angelina.

Angelika.

Ester.

Patricia.

Julie.

[QUOTE=McGrath;2217186]Girls seen by me this weekend. More girls recognized but this is the names I am sure of. Tried 3 new girls except for my usual favourites. Have no complaints in service. I am a 1-hour-guy.

Aileen.

Kylie.

Neya.

Paloma..[/QUOTE]Is Enya a fairly bubbly, short in height, brunette Romanian?

If so I saw her earlier this month & should be at Sharks on Saturday night but she was unsure whether she would still be there or returning home.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=McGrath;2217186]Girls seen by me this weekend. More girls recognized but this is the names I am sure of. Tried 3 new girls except for my usual favourites. Have no complaints in service. I am a 1-hour-guy.

Aileen.

Kylie.

Neya.

Paloma..[/QUOTE]Is this the Kyllie from Palace?

Hit Sharks last night for the first time. Lots of eye candy for Me. Much better and more ladies compared to Oase. Shark also had a better buffet than Oase. Jennifer took care of me for the standard €50. She was very friendly and touchy-feely. That and Her demeanor got my motor running. (I had sessioned earlier at Oase.) FYI: In the room she used her mouth to put on the cover for CBJ. Other than that, she was a good lay. BTW, she has the back door upgrade available for €100. Fun girl to me. Around 1a, the ladies started to leave the club.

[QUOTE=Canary;2217331]Is Enya a fairly bubbly, short in height, brunette Romanian?[/QUOTE]No! Must be some other woman that is on your mind.

[QUOTE=McGrath;2217186]Girls seen by me this weekend. More girls recognized but this is the names I am sure of. Tried 3 new girls except for my usual favourites. Have no complaints in service. I am a 1-hour-guy.

Aileen.

Kylie.

Neya.

Paloma.

Gabriella.

Denisa.

Larissa.

Enya.

Yellis.

Hanna.

Dea.

Jessica.

Angelina.

Angelika.

Ester.

Patricia.

Julie.[/QUOTE]Did you take a notebook with you? I've never figured out how to remember those many names O. O.

[QUOTE=Kdnyc25;2217506]Did you take a notebook with you? I've never figured out how to remember those many names O. O.[/QUOTE]Wrote down names when I got back to the hotel. Thought about how I can contribute to this forum as I don't want to write full reports. I want to see more lists like this myself.

Girls not seen this weekend as I can think of right now. Bianca, Elena, Rebecka, Cristal, Madalina, Vivian.

Haven't seen Vivian for a long time so maybe she has quit.

Day 1:

Landed at FRA and headed to Sharks after checking into a nearby hotel in Darmstadt. Tuesday night had been a relatively slow night there, so much so that I can easily park my car close to the entrance even after 6 PM. The weather was still pretty warm that day and they had this BBQ cookout in the backyard but the food pretty much sucked. I remember they had a much better buffet selection last September.

Made my round to see if anyone peeked my interest after dinner. Unfortunately, the lineup was weak and I ended up with mediocre sessions with four girls. It was so uneventful that I could not even remember their names. At least I get to meet a few fellow travelers just like me which made passing my night in Sharks much easier.

[QUOTE=McGrath;2217517]Wrote down names when I got back to the hotel. Thought about how I can contribute to this forum as I don't want to write full reports. I want to see more lists like this myself.
[/QUOTE]Regular line-up lists is a regular occurrence on other FKK forums, but sadly no longer on ISG. It is probably the most valued piece of information for me when planning a trip. Thanks for updating us.

[QUOTE=McGrath;2217517]Girls not seen this weekend as I can think of right now. Bianca, Elena, Rebecka, Cristal, Madalina, Vivian.[/QUOTE]Thank you kindly for your updates. By any chance is Bianca the same person as Evelina? Is Evelina no longer at Sharks?

[QUOTE=TankTank123;2214904]Melanie normally sits with Scarlett and Emma. Both are slim, pretty and in early 20's. Scarlett is blonde and was present yesterday. Emma is dark blond, looks like Cara Delevingne, and is still on vacation according to a girl I asked. Melanie has put on weight and is now flabby.[/QUOTE]Thanks, must be Scarlett then.

[QUOTE=TonyDain;2216315]I still remember a zimmer w Melanie 2 years ago. Thought she had a fab body at the time. Sorry to hear she's getting flabby. I was kind of looking fwd to a repeat.[/QUOTE]Melanie is on holiday for a month and a half now, back mid October.

[QUOTE=DingoBrax;2217598]Regular line-up lists is a regular occurrence on other FKK forums, but sadly no longer on ISG. It is probably the most valued piece of information for me when planning a trip.[/QUOTE]There are many new girls at Sharks right now. For me, new means they showed up with the last two to three month.

And overall at least 90 women on the busy nights like Wed, Fri, Sat and Sun. So, the 17 names listed by McGrath represent less than 20 percent. And much room is (many rooms are) left for adventure in FKK-land!

And in this week, for certain, there will be 2-3 more new girls there!

Is there any discount for entry ticket at Sharks for 5 or 7 days visit?

[QUOTE=AltaAero;2217635]Thank you kindly for your updates. By any chance is Bianca the same person as Evelina? [/QUOTE]No chance!

[QUOTE=AltaAero;2217635]Is Evelina no longer at Sharks?[/QUOTE]She is back from holidays, I guess. I saw her just a couple of days ago there!

[QUOTE=Ortos;2217048]Did this Adina, as you say formerly having worked for a few years (the good years!) at World, have a tattoo configuration consisting of Chinese (or Japanese?) letters down her backbone? If so: I can confirm she was hot, hot, hot in bed![/QUOTE]Yes, she worked in world before, her best days were in world. I remember her more for the mole behind the ear rather than the tattoo. Often during a sex it catch my attention, LOL. In 2016, she didn't look as good as in the beginning anymore.

[QUOTE=Kdnyc25;2217506]Did you take a notebook with you? I've never figured out how to remember those many names O. O.[/QUOTE]I'm a bit obsessed with lists of names when I go to clubs frequent enough. For LR I have managed to keep about 90% up to date, but I visit a lot. I used to start from scratch weekly but the I realized I had done the work previously, so I copied the list into Notes, then check the ladies names off as I run across them in the club. Then I create the post for the day and copy past the names into the post. So if we start with the 20% list here we could build up fairly complete list in no time.

[QUOTE=FunExplorer;2217737]Is there any discount for entry ticket at Sharks for 5 or 7 days visit?[/QUOTE]There's a 325 euro six entry card (6 for the price of 5) so 54.17 euro per entry rather than the full 65.

Wed and Sun are 50 euro entry anyway though.

[QUOTE=CitizenKane;2217838]There's a 325 euro six entry card (6 for the price of 5) so 54.17 euro per entry rather than the full 65.

Wed and Sun are 50 euro entry anyway though.[/QUOTE]Sunday only before 2 pm, when whole Wednesday.

For who asked, Aurelia at Sharks on 2015/2016, is still at Globe. Wish to Megan to also stay, despite competition with top class superstars.

Got some fresh German beauties there, like Finnja sensitive when fucking and Skylar who became so enthousiastic during foreplay, until shower together after Globe closing time. These German beauties don't want to work for German rate, after trying Artemis, GT or Harem Padenborn.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2218092]These German beauties don't want to work for German rate, after trying Artemis, GT or Harem Padenborn.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately Harem is no more.

[URL]http://www.westfalen-blatt.de/OWL/Kreis-Paderborn/Bad-Lippspringe/3226183-Insolvenzverfahren-und-Durchsuchung-der-Staatsanwaltschaft-im-Bordell-Bad-Lippspringer-Harem-ist-dicht[/URL]

[QUOTE=CitizenKane;2218236]Unfortunately Harem is no more.

[URL]http://www.westfalen-blatt.de/OWL/Kreis-Paderborn/Bad-Lippspringe/3226183-Insolvenzverfahren-und-Durchsuchung-der-Staatsanwaltschaft-im-Bordell-Bad-Lippspringer-Harem-ist-dicht[/URL][/QUOTE]I got few girls from Harem, they were quite good level. German Skylar is not on Globe Romanian superstars level, but I really enjoyed her so fresh behavior. She would have liked I returned on Monday, but preferred to break my record in legendary Galibier, on Tuesday in Agnelo terrible Italian face with 14%, and today in Cormet Roselend. Working very hard on holidays for records, great sport.

[QUOTE=CitizenKane;2218236]Unfortunately Harem is no more.

[URL]http://www.westfalen-blatt.de/OWL/Kreis-Paderborn/Bad-Lippspringe/3226183-Insolvenzverfahren-und-Durchsuchung-der-Staatsanwaltschaft-im-Bordell-Bad-Lippspringer-Harem-ist-dicht[/URL][/QUOTE]Harem is back in business I think.

Website is reactivated [URL]www.saunaclubharem.com[/URL].

Also advertising on FKK24.

[QUOTE=DerAuslander;2218243]Harem is back in business I think.

Website is reactivated [URL]www.saunaclubharem.com[/URL].

Also advertising on FKK24.[/QUOTE]That's good news. Only ever been there once and it's a hell of a club hardware wise but it's in the middle of nowhere. LU was nothing special based on my visit but 1 day isn't exactly a representative sample size.

In the last time we are often at Sharks and we are really excited. The line-up at the Sharks is great and the girls look really hot and are very nice.

It's even worth the drive from Switzerland.

I understand that Tuesdays at Sharks is dessuous-tag (lingerie wearing day for the woman) but does that mean real lingerie (like garters or see thru frilly things) or does it mean they cheat and wear bikinis? And is the participation pretty much 100%.

I've read that many guys don't like lingerie day and I don't understand quite why Tuesdays are avoided by some?

[QUOTE=Dickson123;2218858]I understand that Tuesdays at Sharks is dessuous-tag (lingerie wearing day for the woman) but does that mean real lingerie (like garters or see thru frilly things) or does it mean they cheat and wear bikinis? And is the participation pretty much 100%.

I've read that many guys don't like lingerie day and I don't understand quite why Tuesdays are avoided by some?[/QUOTE]Some wear bikinis, some have lingerie on, some even more, some less. A decent number are stark naked too.

You will see some pussy and ass and tits, not to worry.

Ofc for a while, in the Hesse clubs girls have been cheating even on non-dessous days. In that sense, Desosus days are slightly worse but not total disasters. It is only a tricky issue if you want to session w / a girl and had never seen her before — take her to the room and find out she has droopy tits.

Hey guys,

Made it to Frankfurt today. I'm here 5 days. Just went to Sharks and there was a wonderful selection. Not too many guys there for a Friday night so the women were a bit aggressive. My goodness has this place changed. A lot of upselling once you get to the room. Had a blonde Bulgarian that grabbed me almost immediately as I walked in. She was hot but her service sucked. CBJ and normal fuck. She rushed me and eventually took the condom of to give me a HJ finish. I told her, "Stop, I can do that myself in my hotel room." I kindly ended the service and moved on. Met a Czech chick who talked to me for a bit and gave me a great vibe. Ass was so soft. Took her to the room and she gave me a BBBJ for no additional charge and was the greatest session I had. Then I got approached by two blondes. One from Greece and one from Italy. They wanted to do a threesome and I declined telling them why pay double for one nut. One of the guys told me I'the have to pay them extra to go lesbian during the encounter. Walked around a few times and they pulled me aside again. I finally gave in and told them I'the do each one at a time. The first chick was a good lay, she relentlessly tried to upsell me all services. I finally agree to 50 additional for BBBJ and GFE which I didn't really received. Finished her. Took a break and grabbed her friend. She kept trying to upsell me and said my friend told me you have her 100. This time I stuck to my guns. She kept trying to tell me that I'm being cheap and how I'm a bad guy for not giving her extra. Then she told me how a CBJ is not good and I should get a BBBJ. I still declined. She asked me to finish in her mouth for additional of course but that's not my thing. When we finally got down to business she told me not to destroy her pussy and kept complaining like it hurts. I'm black but come on! I'm sure I'm not the biggest she has experienced in this line of work. After more pumps and more complaining, we finished and she had the nerve to promise her that I would see her tomorrow.

[QUOTE=Dickson123;2218858]I understand that Tuesdays at Sharks is dessuous-tag (lingerie wearing day for the woman) ...
I've read that many guys don't like lingerie day and I don't understand quite why Tuesdays are avoided by some?[/QUOTE]Is this "dessuous" day on Tuesday. Not Wednesday?

[QUOTE=Dickson123;2218858]I understand that Tuesdays at Sharks is dessuous-tag (lingerie wearing day for the woman) but does that mean real lingerie (like garters or see thru frilly things) or does it mean they cheat and wear bikinis? And is the participation pretty much 100%.

I've read that many guys don't like lingerie day and I don't understand quite why Tuesdays are avoided by some?[/QUOTE]Tuesday is usually a very slow day in almost every club, so what some clubs do is try to spice things up a little bit with a 'lingerie theme. '

I would argue that most men love lingerie (just look at the succes of Victoria's Secret and in how many porn videos the women are wearing kinky lingerie), but I think the negative reputation about dessous tag is that it usually involves a very mediocre line up. Most hot and successful girls have worked hard during the weekend and usually take Monday and Tuesday off, hence the sort of women you see at Lingerie Tuesday are usually not the sexiest.

For example, Helen (RO) usually wears lingerie when she's working during the busy weekends yet I don't read too many complaints about her wearing lingerie and that is because she's hot. That's my point.

[QUOTE=Gristle1;2219036] I finally gave in and told them I'the do each one at a time. The first chick was a good lay, she relentlessly tried to upsell me all services. I finally agree to 50 additional for BBBJ and GFE which I didn't really received. Finished her. Took a break and grabbed her friend. She kept trying to upsell me and said my friend told me you have her 100. This time I stuck to my guns. She kept trying to tell me that I'm being cheap and how I'm a bad guy for not giving her extra. Then she told me how a CBJ is not good and I should get a BBBJ. I still declined. She asked me to finish in her mouth for additional of course but that's not my thing. When we finally got down to business she told me not to destroy her pussy and kept complaining like it hurts. I'm black but come on! I'm sure I'm not the biggest she has experienced in this line of work. After more pumps and more complaining, we finished and she had the nerve to promise her that I would see her tomorrow.[/QUOTE]Shivers up and down my spine. This is the end, I believe. I always felt like Sharks is the safest of all havens. I feel that no more.

[QUOTE=Eddie73;2218730]In the last time we are often at Sharks and we are really excited. The line-up at the Sharks is great and the girls look really hot and are very nice.

It's even worth the drive from Switzerland.[/QUOTE]Are you a new shareholder of Shark, or is the P6 scene so poor in Switzerland that you are writing such a positive report.

[QUOTE=Gristle1;2219036]Hey guys,

Made it to Frankfurt today. I'm here 5 days. Just went to Sharks and there was a wonderful selection. Not too many guys there for a Friday night so the women were a bit aggressive. [/QUOTE]My advice is never to pay Euro 100 for a 30 minute session. Better to do 1 hour and have services like GFE and BBBJ included in the price. Even if you only stay in the room for 40 minutes of the hour, better to pay the same money and get the extra time. The girls in Sharks and Oase have a lot of competition and they therefore try to maximise earnings from tourists. Regular club visitors tend to be treated differently.

[QUOTE=NNC1701;2219254]Tuesday is usually a very slow day in almost every club, so what some clubs do is try to spice things up a little bit with a 'lingerie theme. '

I would argue that most men love lingerie (just look at the succes of Victoria's Secret and in how many porn videos the women are wearing kinky lingerie), but I think the negative reputation about dessous tag is that it usually involves a very mediocre line up. Most hot and successful girls have worked hard during the weekend and usually take Monday and Tuesday off, hence the sort of women you see at Lingerie Tuesday are usually not the sexiest.

For example, Helen (RO) usually wears lingerie when she's working during the busy weekends yet I don't read too many complaints about her wearing lingerie and that is because she's hot. That's my point.[/QUOTE]I wish all girls were in lingerie and high heels or other sexy dresses every day. I don't like it that they are completely naked, better to watch their pussy flashing under clothes. Much better for the mood in my opinion.

The Frankfurt-area has been known for upselling since several years. Logical: a lot of one-time-visitors with limited experience. They are being treated like one-time-visitors and therefore vulnerable if they act like they're happy with almost anything because it is still way better than what they are used to. The clubs like Oase / World / Sharks hand the girls the opportunity to upsell and betray clients: how? No keys for the rooms, so no control possible regarding the time. Nobody to complain to like in most clubs in NRW where the girls have to get a key, the exact time is noted on the paper, no room for discussion. In Sharks it is completely up to the girls to try to "steal" time / money and so on. The clubowners don't care, they cash big by asking the girls a large amount of entryfees and the offer them the opportunity to cheat on tme for instance, charge higher amounts for extras (50 instead of 25, anal even 100 instead of 50) for instance and if a large part of the clients are easy pushovers, they get their rewards if they try it 10 times, and are not penalised (maybe one or two exceptions for extreme upselling in a few years time were kicked out).

Some girls make 5 to 10 minute rooms, some cheat and charge 100 E for 25 minutes, some girls only kiss for 50 E extra and so on. As long as there are enough clients which approve and obey this situation, it will only get more extreme! See what happened to Palace, it's slowly but surely spreading throughout Hessen. Oase probably still worse then Sharks but it's only a matter of time if it goes on like that. Same thing: whenever you leave Sharks, they don't even bother to ask if you were satisfied, happy, no questions asked about the girls. They are only interested in your wristband to check if you were stupid enough to buy overpriced drinks bottom line. They are taking their clients for fools, and according to the succesfull upselling for several girls since months / years. A lot of clients seem to be foolish enough to obey.

This was my 4th FKK birthday and Cosmina Ro was my first FKK girl. Over the last 4 years, 95% of my FKK visits have been at Sharks and, maybe it's time to have a more varied "FKK-diet" in the near future.

Anyway, Wednesday wasn't very busy and, in fact, there was almost no queue for the bbq. Weather was great and not too hot, perfect for having sessions.

I've seen better LU in the recent past, but I have noticed a few girls have returned to Sharks since my last two visits at the end of July: Carolina Ro, Helen Ro, Meena Ro, Corinna Hun. German table was almost empty on those two days, but I saw Mandy De. , Tina De. (tall, full of tattoos, with glasses) and a couple of more Germans.

On Wednesday, I arrived at about 5 pm, but I didn't want to session straight away, so I enjoyed the great wellness facilities at Sharks for a bit. The great thing of Sharks is that the wellness facilities alone are worth the entry fee.

My favourite girls were not there on Wednesday, E. G. Corinna Hun, Lora Hun, Alina De, Liliana Lit, which made me ponder for a long time who to give my first session. Towards the end of the afternoon, I went with Francesca Ro. (30 min 100 Euro). Very enjoyable session and there has been an extra, hence the 100 Euro charge.

I was then in the mood for an optifuck and went for Lilly (30 min 50 Euro). I always enjoy sessions with Lilly, but she's not for those that are looking for a GFE.

It was almost midnight and I wanted to leave when Anastasia Ro. Approached me on the sofa. After a brief chat we decided to go for a short session (30 min 100 Euro). Again, there has been an extra. Anastasia is very skilled with BBBJ but, unless you have Asian-size penis, that is all you can do with her because she is very small down there. Nevertheless, she's a sweet girl and very passionate in the room.

On Thursday I was very tired but decided to return to Sharks anyway and just do wellness activities, mostly sauna aufguss. So, I arrived at around 5 pm after a late lunch and started enjoying saunas, garden and jacuzzis. However, at some point, I started to think I was actually ready for some action and met Mirella Ro. Very sexy lady, who's been at Sharks since my first visit, I believe. Great session with a real sexy woman, with very nice attitude. (30 min 50 Euro).

As I was thinking of leaving the club and head back to my hotel, I found Corinna Hun making a late entry in the club. Straight to the room for a great hour with a beautiful girl (1 h 150 Euro).

All in all a nice two days at Sharks, but the LU can definitely improve. September / October would probably be better in terms of LU and I was gutted to realise that I was going to miss the bbq / smoker party on 1st September. I have seen the bbq truck and it looked impressive. Hope you guys enjoyed it!

Rock.

[QUOTE=DerAuslander;2219557]My advice is never to pay Euro 100 for a 30 minute session. Better to do 1 hour and have services like GFE and BBBJ included in the price. Even if you only stay in the room for 40 minutes of the hour, better to pay the same money and get the extra time. The girls in Sharks and Oase have a lot of competition and they therefore try to maximise earnings from tourists. Regular club visitors tend to be treated differently.[/QUOTE]Yes it is the basic of the basic, 100 is for 1 hour, only extra to be paid CIM 50 and anal 100, final point all the rest is cheating.

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2219664]I wish all girls were in lingerie and high heels or other sexy dresses every day. I don't like it that they are completely naked, better to watch their pussy flashing under clothes. Much better for the mood in my opinion.[/QUOTE]We all have our own preferences, I saw too many pussy.

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[QUOTE=RockyV;2219708]

I was then in the mood for an optifuck and went for Lilly (30 min 50 Euro). I always enjoy sessions with Lilly, but she's not for those that are looking for a GFE.


As I was thinking of leaving the club and head back to my hotel, I found Corinna Hun making a late entry in the club. Straight to the room for a great hour with a beautiful girl (1 h 150 Euro).

All in all a nice two days at Sharks, but the LU can definitely improve. September / October would probably be better in terms of LU and I was gutted to realise that I was going to miss the bbq / smoker party on 1st September. I have seen the bbq truck and it looked impressive. Hope you guys enjoyed it!

Rock.[/QUOTE]Good report. Lily is beautiful but many reports suggest she is cold in room and I did meet her and found her attitude strange.

Where does Corina usually sits?

[QUOTE=Gristle1;2219036]Hey guys,

Made it to Frankfurt today. . Took a break and grabbed her friend. She kept trying to upsell me and said my friend told me you have her 100. This time I stuck to my guns. She kept trying to tell me that I'm being cheap and how I'm a bad guy for not giving her extra. Then she told me how a CBJ is not good and I should get a BBBJ. I still declined. She asked me to finish in her mouth for additional of course but that's not my thing. When we finally got down to business she told me not to destroy her pussy and kept complaining like it hurts. I'm black but come on! I'm sure I'm not the biggest she has experienced in this line of work. After more pumps and more complaining, we finished and she had the nerve to promise her that I would see her tomorrow.[/QUOTE]This pisses me off. Last time at Sharks I had a beautiful RO that was a friend of a Girl I saw twice and knew everything about me and had me pegged for a 150 $ session guy. During our appointment she kept trying to upsell me with extra services ruining the mood. So when I went down on her I would stop every few seconds and say "I'll lick your asshole if you take 50 Euro off the price of the session?" She laughed and finally said no. Then I said "Do you see what I mean? No more talk of prices during our session!" The girl laughed and then the pricing talk stopped. But I did finish in her mouth. You can't win here LOL.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2220048]This pisses me off. Last time at Sharks I had a beautiful RO that was a friend of a Girl I saw twice and knew everything about me and had me pegged for a 150 $ session guy. During our appointment she kept trying to upsell me with extra services ruining the mood. So when I went down on her I would stop every few seconds and say "I'll lick your asshole if you take 50 Euro off the price of the session?" She laughed and finally said no. Then I said "Do you see what I mean? No more talk of prices during our session!" The girl laughed and then the pricing talk stopped. But I did finish in her mouth. You can't win here LOL.[/QUOTE]As simple as that 50 for 30 minutes, 100 for 1 hour and so on and the only extra I had never paid CIM 50 and anal 100 final point. Advice all of us to do the same.

[QUOTE=Tuber19;2219880]Good report. Lily is beautiful but many reports suggest she is cold in room and I did meet her and found her attitude strange.

Where does Corina usually sits?[/QUOTE]Yes, no GFE from Lily and she does not kiss at all. However, she's such a sweet and beautiful girl that I normally always give her a session. Just let her lead in the room without too many requests and you'll be fine with her.

Corinna normally sits next to the opening in the bar, you can recognize her from the two birds tattooed on the left shoulder. She's amazing, if you treat her well!

Have fun!

Rock.

Went with Anastasia, beautiful little package. Too many complaints she is too small, if you want to do her hard keep your ears closed, but fun to be with her if you want to talk. Unfortunately in room she is on meter. Well will keep her as backup at any time.

[QUOTE=RichCandyMan;2220314]Went with Anastasia, beautiful little package. Too many complaints she is too small, if you want to do her hard keep your ears closed, but fun to be with her if you want to talk. Unfortunately in room she is on meter. Well will keep her as backup at any time.[/QUOTE]I saw Anastasia on Monday and had a great time for an hour & a half, leaving the room just five minutes before closing time.

Yes she certainly can talk (I prefer a girl with a personality) but when it comes to BJ she IMO is in a league of her own, I'm not easily impressed but it was technically one of the best BJ's I've ever had as well as the longest.

Claims to be 19 (certainly looks 19) but if she isn't she is very close to it.

Although Romanian she doesn't speak the language well as she was brought up in Russia so she is often at the bar on her own mixing with other Romanians occasionally.

There are certain types of men she doesn't go with (I saw her turning one man down myself).

She only has a three month visa but intends to return.

If she is at Sharks during my next visit I will without hesitation & doubt see her again.

Hi,

What about Asian girl? Are there some?

Looking to old posts there were only one Phil, due that I like them a loto (not only) at least ad experience would be glad.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=RichCandyMan;2220314]Went with Anastasia, beautiful little package. Too many complaints she is too small, if you want to do her hard keep your ears closed, but fun to be with her if you want to talk. Unfortunately in room she is on meter. Well will keep her as backup at any time.[/QUOTE]That and the medical wipes. I thought she was prepping me for a vasectomy. She had pursued me and rubbed my penis and seduced me into a session against my will really. I got horny and said yes and then out come the cold medical wipes. All the spontaneity was gone. She has a nice asshole though.

[QUOTE=DerAuslander;2218243]Harem is back in business I think.

Website is reactivated [URL]www.saunaclubharem.com[/URL].

Also advertising on FKK24.[/QUOTE]I can confirm it is open again. Not all girls are back tho.

After the disastrous day yesterday in Manhattan, I gave a new try to Shark today, arrived at 11 Am, great LU, very good ratio man to woman which means that the girls were bored until 5 PM may be 2 times more girls than man, great session with a new girl, got everything in a 3 hours session for 300 euro.

[QUOTE=AlejajaIT;2220684]Hi,

What about Asian girl? Are there some?

Looking to old posts there were only one Phil, due that I like them a loto (not only) at least ad experience would be glad.

Thanks![/QUOTE]I think 0 Chinese, 0 Japanese, 0 Korean, 0 Vietnamese, I am living since 20 years in Asia, may be sometimes a phil.

Someones claimed the "original" Cosmina came back. I didn't find her at my last Sharks visit (two days ago, September 5). I only saw the blonde new Cosmina who sometimes sat under aquarium.

It would be an exciting thing If those ever famous beauties (Cosmina, Evita, Megan, Helli, Dina, etc.) in Sharks once "golden age" could come back.

And please excuse I'm a beginner. As standard during session of 30 min. Or 1 HR you can have more than one cumshot? So you have to contract for it?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=AmSexyBoy;2221272]Someones claimed the "original" Cosmina came back. I didn't find her at my last Sharks visit (two days ago, September 5). I only saw the blonde new Cosmina who sometimes sat under aquarium.[/QUOTE]Well, Kelli / Helli was not there on Wednesday, Sept. 5th, but was seen on last Friday, and on Monday this week. Dark-haired "original" Cosmina showed up pretty late (after 9 pm) on this Wednesday. Dina has been there recently for a couple of days.

Men had come in greater numbers than they had yesterday at Oase but it was no sausage fest and the LU was stupendous. My only regret was not being a much younger any more.

This year Hessen has won hands down over NRW on all counts.

[QUOTE=AmSexyBoy;2221272]Someones claimed the "original" Cosmina came back. I didn't find her at my last Sharks visit (two days ago, September 5). I only saw the blonde new Cosmina who sometimes sat under aquarium.

It would be an exciting thing If those ever famous beauties (Cosmina, Evita, Megan, Helli, Dina, etc.) in Sharks once "golden age" could come back.[/QUOTE]Helli now silicon was at Sharks on Saturday 1 September, BBQ party with average casting. Dina was at Sharks on August. Megan was on tour at Globe on August. Aurelia also.

Aylin. At now silicon was also for BBQ party.

For BBQ party, really good welcome from staff, with kind of champagne, but average foods. Some girls prefer MacDo than BBQ.

[QUOTE=XXL;2221454]Men had come in greater numbers than they had yesterday at Oase but it was no sausage fest and the LU was stupendous. My only regret was not being a much younger any more.

This year Hessen has won hands down over NRW on all counts.[/QUOTE]As already reported by myself LU was great this week and mongers quite few so very good time for lovers like me.

[QUOTE=AlejajaIT;2220684]Hi,

What about Asian girl? Are there some?

Looking to old posts there were only one Phil, due that I like them a loto (not only) at least ad experience would be glad.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Philippina Marlyn and Thai Sue are both great. But they don't work too much. Marlyn I bump into half the times I go. But Sue I only met once although she claimed to have been around for years, just not very often.

[QUOTE=AmSexyBoy;2221272]Someones claimed the "original" Cosmina came back. I didn't find her at my last Sharks visit (two days ago, September 5). I only saw the blonde new Cosmina who sometimes sat under aquarium.

It would be an exciting thing If those ever famous beauties (Cosmina, Evita, Megan, Helli, Dina, etc.) in Sharks once "golden age" could come back.[/QUOTE]Evita is on holiday, guess she will return.

Helli never left except for Holidays.

Dina returned today.

Megan is at Globe.

Cosmina was reported to be back.

Wasn't Cosmina reported to have retired and doing something else, even in Frankfurt if I recall? Guess the retirement didn't last long. This supports the thesis of many here that clubbing is still the most money making avenue for these girls and they bounce back and shed their clothes to walk the floor as soon as the money runs out.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2221478]Helli now silicon was at Sharks on Saturday 1 September, BBQ party with average casting. Dina was at Sharks on August. Megan was on tour at Globe on August. Aurelia also.

Aylin. At now silicon was also for BBQ party.

For BBQ party, really good welcome from staff, with kind of champagne, but average foods. Some girls prefer MacDo than BBQ.[/QUOTE]Megan still at Globe since April 2017. I'm really happy for her.

Not too many eye candy, just one or two good looking babe, once you done with them there is no opti-fuck opportunity any more. In many cases I like to avoid looking at them may be she will come over and start pestering for session.

Decreasingly show activity on stage also, Cosmina was good on stage but this is not same Cosmina that I see in club. May be Dubai is better for her.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2221543]Wasn't Cosmina reported to have retired and doing something else, even in Frankfurt if I recall? Guess the retirement didn't last long. This supports the thesis of many here that clubbing is still the most money making avenue for these girls and they bounce back and shed their clothes to walk the floor as soon as the money runs out.[/QUOTE]Also when you are a prostitute you learn nothing except sucking and being fucked, difficult to run any business with this kind of experience.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2221543]Wasn't Cosmina reported to have retired and doing something else, even in Frankfurt if I recall? Guess the retirement didn't last long. This supports the thesis of many here that clubbing is still the most money making avenue for these girls and they bounce back and shed their clothes to walk the floor as soon as the money runs out.[/QUOTE]I've been repeating since 15 years that „they ever come back" and it's true for so many of the younger girls. They get into relations with (usually far older) clients. They don't care to learn German or get a job or education. The relationship ends and they end up with nothing. Only option is to go back to getting fucked for money. Some girls with a bit more or a brain and a stronger will succeed in quitting. They finish school, find a job, stay in Germany or return to Romania.

Cosmina is back. Yra wanted to quit and is back / still there.

[QUOTE=AlejajaIT;2220684]Hi,

What about Asian girl? Are there some?

Looking to old posts there were only one Phil, due that I like them a loto (not only) at least ad experience would be glad.[/QUOTE]This is the biggest negative about FKKs: not enough Asian girls. I'm a fan of Asian women myself hence FKKs are not for me. The lack of diversity among the WGs is a problem IMHO.

But of course good times can still be had.

First time I've been to Sharks on a Saturday night albeit fairly late (2/9), never seen so many customers & girls.

I saw a well built blonde (forgot her name!) for an hour, reasonable service, tried to upsell a few times which tends to put me off however she was competent in the services provided, obviously she was well established in the game. Just an hour with her.

The second lady I met was Ena who I had met three weeks before. Romanian, short brunette, medium boobs and a guaranteed brilliant service especially with an oily B2B. Two & a half hours of pure filth!

Next day at Oase I saw Milisa, blonde with her hair tied in two buns, small breasts & a superb service provider. Milisa was recommended to me by an ISG member which was greatly appreciated as we basically did most things for over two hours. Unusually for me I did anal & CIM as Milisa was that good!!

I later saw another blonde (forgot her name! She was a well built girl with fuzzy hair who had also worked in the UK & had an AW account when there. Two hours with this lady, basic services but again couldn't fault her. She seemed a popular girl taking rooms regularly.

I finished off with a duo, Milisa again and a Thai girl called Kim for an hour then another hour with Kim alone. Kim wasn't particularly "my type" however I couldn't fault the service, another oily b2 be.

The final day back at Sharks where I met a plump girl (forgot her name again but claimed to be saving for her last year at Uni? She was very sweet which I find unusual at these places, we spoke for over half an hour on the couch as I was knackered but I was sucked in & we had a two hour session. Short & plump but her personality shone, loved kissing everywhere.

I was knackered as I had previously seen a non descript blonde, she was nice on the couch but average in the room. Just 30 minutes.

Ena was working again so I couldn't help myself, another two hours of fun, she knows what I like without having to go through the usual routine.

I thought that was it for me but very late at night after a long chat with Anastasia I decided to take another room.

Anastasia Has been spoken on ISG before and although I agree she likes to talk I found her engaging, no upselling whatsoever and one of the longest and best BJ's I've ever had. A young (claims to be 19 but if she isn't she is very close to it) blonde, small tits who although Romanian claims she was brought up in Russia. She says she doesn't speak good Romanian because of this & doesn't mix a lot with the other girls but who knows? We left the room five minutes before the Club closed.

I wasn't impressed with Sharks on my first visit in August but have now become a fan, I like it as much as Artemis. Oase for me was smaller than I thought, unfortunately it was overcast so the ladies didn't venture out. For me I would only return to Oase on a hot day as I guess the Club is transformed with action in the gardens.

I will be in Germany next (unfortunately only one day) on 26th October and will probably venture to Sharks again. I hope to see.

Anastasia again as she said she should return around 18/19th October after her birthday and with a fresh three month visa.

If not I will enjoy searching for new talent!

[QUOTE=Milfotronic;2221741]This is the biggest negative about FKKs: not enough Asian girls. I'm a fan of Asian women myself hence FKKs are not for me. The lack of diversity among the WGs is a problem IMHO.

But of course good times can still be had.[/QUOTE]I remember way back in 2010, I believe it was, 2 hot Chinese girls visited Oase. They were together by themselves and no one seemed to take them on. I love Chinese women but there were some smoking Romanians I needed to service so I marked the Chinese for attention at a later date. They never returned. Also at Oase around that time I sessioned a Korean who I never saw afterwards. The small Filipina I saw in Sharks this summer was extremely busy. She seemed to me the most occupied girl in the FKK.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2222166]I remember way back in 2010, I believe it was, 2 hot Chinese girls visited Oase. They were together by themselves and no one seemed to take them on. I love Chinese women but there were some smoking Romanians I needed to service so I marked the Chinese for attention at a later date. They never returned. Also at Oase around that time I sessioned a Korean who I never saw afterwards. The small Filipina I saw in Sharks this summer was extremely busy. She seemed to me the most occupied girl in the FKK.[/QUOTE]A long time ago. Today very very few Asian girls probably no real Japanese or Chinese some Thai or phili nothing more, sorry I have some experience just living 15 years in China.

[QUOTE=RogueNation;2221514]Evita is on holiday, guess she will return.

Helli never left except for Holidays.

Dina returned today.

Megan is at Globe.

Cosmina was reported to be back.[/QUOTE]Is Helli back?

[QUOTE=Danny227;2222235]Is Helli back?[/QUOTE]She was on 1 September BBQ party. Smiling friendly.

Only new Cosmina seen, not the previous one.

If you like asians, then try Frankfurt RLD which has one house filled up with asians.

Dubai is a great (safe and fairly affordable) destination.

And in GT there is one busty thai part of the regular crew. She has natural 80 DD. Not sure about her service though.

[QUOTE=Milfotronic;2221741]This is the biggest negative about FKKs: not enough Asian girls. I'm a fan of Asian women myself hence FKKs are not for me. The lack of diversity among the WGs is a problem IMHO.

But of course good times can still be had.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kuni042;2222393]If you like asians, then try Frankfurt RLD which has one house filled up with asians.[/QUOTE]Hi and thanks.

Where in RLD is this house? Do you have the exact address?

Cheers.

I will be in Frankfurt for less than 24 hours on a Friday while traveling somewhere else. I've been to sharks, maybe 1 year ago? A few questions (and I will cross post this).

1. Does Sandra still work at Sharks?

2. My flight arrives around 3 pm on Friday, and next is at 10 am on Saturday. I will take a hotel to get a good nights sleep. Hotel by the airport's are worth it? Or stay somewhere close to a FKK?

3. Should I go to Sharks on a Friday or are there other places to go to?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=JazzyB;2222911]I will be in Frankfurt for less than 24 hours on a Friday while traveling somewhere else. I've been to sharks, maybe 1 year ago? A few questions (and I will cross post this).

1. Does Sandra still work at Sharks?

2. My flight arrives around 3 pm on Friday, and next is at 10 am on Saturday. I will take a hotel to get a good nights sleep. Hotel by the airport's are worth it? Or stay somewhere close to a FKK?

3. Should I go to Sharks on a Friday or are there other places to go to?

Thanks![/QUOTE]No Sandra. De at Sharks since a while.

Not to lose time, You should go to Contel hotel, 500 m from Sharks.

[QUOTE=JazzyB;2222911]I will be in Frankfurt for less than 24 hours on a Friday while traveling somewhere else. I've been to sharks, maybe 1 year ago? A few questions (and I will cross post this).

1. Does Sandra still work at Sharks?

2. My flight arrives around 3 pm on Friday, and next is at 10 am on Saturday. I will take a hotel to get a good nights sleep. Hotel by the airport's are worth it? Or stay somewhere close to a FKK?

3. Should I go to Sharks on a Friday or are there other places to go to?

Thanks![/QUOTE]Sandra De. Hasn't been seen at Sharks for more than a year and I believe she has quit the business. FKK Palace is closer to the airport thanks Sharks. Have fun.

Rock.

[QUOTE=JazzyB;2222911]I will be in Frankfurt for less than 24 hours on a Friday while traveling somewhere else. I've been to sharks, maybe 1 year ago? A few questions (and I will cross post this).

1. Does Sandra still work at Sharks?

2. My flight arrives around 3 pm on Friday, and next is at 10 am on Saturday. I will take a hotel to get a good nights sleep. Hotel by the airport's are worth it? Or stay somewhere close to a FKK?

3. Should I go to Sharks on a Friday or are there other places to go to?

Thanks![/QUOTE]My reco is to visit Shark and to book a hotel near the airport, you can fully enjoy your time in the club after you can travel back to the hotel and the next morning you will have no stress to reach the airport.

[QUOTE=RockyV;2222979]Sandra De. Hasn't been seen at Sharks for more than a year and I believe she has quit the business. FKK Palace is closer to the airport thanks Sharks. Have fun.
[/QUOTE]By the way, this week Automechanika fair takes place. Thus don't be surprised about many tourists in clubs like Palace and Mainhattan. For a combination of both good sleep (hotel prices will be on higher level) and fun you may have six hours maximum to stay in a club. The idea of Siroja to go for Contel hotel in Darmstadt is quite reasonable.

The yellow buses (https://www.heagmobibus.de/de/airliner) are running every 30 minutes between the airport and Darmstadt central station (time in route around 30 minutes). A taxi to Contel hotel, check-in. You leave the hotel turning to the right following Otto-Roehm-Strasse for the next 500 metres No chance to get lost - look for the Hornbach doing-yourself-store and when you reached the small cardealer store you have reached the spot.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2203925]I am a great lover of the German providers so any chance I get I session one. That happened recently when I spied this tall well tattooed damsel sitting in what I call the non-Romanian zone around the bar area near the water dispenser. Approached her, named Gina and ascertained that she was German. My record with Germans is exceptional and decided on not much banter, suggested a 50 euro half hour romp and we were trekking to the zimmer. In the zimmer we apprehended the usual suspects BBBJ and DATY and dispensed with them in about 5 minutes and delved into CFS. To my great surprise after no more than 20 minutes in the room my date says to me that my time is almost up. What a surprise! Is the Romanian / Bulgarian modus operandi spreading to the Germans? This was a first with a German for me. That totally killed my mood and I decided not to waste a nut on this frau. I said to her you're wrong, my time IS up.

Paid 50, washed up and sauntered to the same zone with drink in hand. After a few minutes an obvious German with a white corset sits next to me. I immediately chat her up, she's from Nuremberg and will be visiting Sharks on weekends. Again, I want to waste no more time and we agree to a half hour 50 euro session. In the room DFK is followed by BBBJ and DATY and then CFS. This babe is exceptional and we have perfect chemistry so that I nut even within 20 minutes! At this time we clean up and she lies on the bed and I next to her and we chat. This was the best GFE I have had on this trip. I actually think she likes me (I sometimes flatter myself that way). Definitely worth a repeat.[/QUOTE]Turgid. I have been thinking about Gina. Incidentally, she looks like she would make a good dominatrix. I don't mind that as long as I get DFK, BBBJ, DATY, and MPOS. She can humiliate me all she wants. I pissed Gina off by low balling her rates. But I found myself thinking of her while fucking other porn star looking girls. Sooo I'm going to take another run at this one this weekend. Who was the other German.

On my way back from holidays on Saturday BBQ party 1 September, I met German blond Leoni with pretty face and beautiful smile. Among average casting compare to Globe which was my standard for my recovering days for my holidays, she was the most attractive for me. We chat and smiled to each other many times, she promised me to make love, but she doesn't kiss. She asked if so important for me? This is the most important for me, because most of words in this business are lies, but You can judge a girl behavior about her way to kiss you, mechanic or sweetly, coming to kiss you, kissing your face. So no Leoni, I went with a fresh Romanian advised as a new star, really enthusiastic behavior, but at 18 yo, not a woman yet, my mistake, she was friendly, but not woman type enough for me.

Sandra. De was a passionate kisser for our weekly rooms on 2015. Aylice. Bu was also a passionate kisser. Had a Hungarian on end of 2014, who was a real woman in love in bed, so passionate, stuck to your mouth and tongue.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2223251]Turgid. I have been thinking about Gina. Incidentally, she looks like she would make a good dominatrix. I don't mind that as long as I get DFK, BBBJ, DATY, and MPOS. She can humiliate me all she wants. I pissed Gina off by low balling her rates. But I found myself thinking of her while fucking other porn star looking girls. Sooo I'm going to take another run at this one this weekend. Who was the other German.[/QUOTE]Gina was an ok lay, its just that she short-timed me. The other German was Leoni who has chosen not to siliconize which is alright with me but knowing other mongers she'd probably get more sessions if she did. I really liked her but there were so many other broads to service that I did not have another session with her. Hopefully she'd be there whenever I return.

Hi guys,

Visited Sharks for the first time last week. Had fun. Detailed trip report to follow including some tips for newbies like me! And just like in a strip club. Always use your diligence and caution. And thanks to all the guys for their reports and info. Was useful. Time to share my feedback too shortly.

I just visited Sharks last week for the 1st time. Stayed closer to airport. But my advice would be to stay closer to Sharks than the airport based on personal experience. Also. FYI - at the Hyatt Place airport- you freaking can't access ISG as they block ISG website. Not sure if other airport hotels do the same too.

[QUOTE=JazzyB;2222911]I will be in Frankfurt for less than 24 hours on a Friday while traveling somewhere else. I've been to sharks, maybe 1 year ago? A few questions (and I will cross post this).

1. Does Sandra still work at Sharks?

2. My flight arrives around 3 pm on Friday, and next is at 10 am on Saturday. I will take a hotel to get a good nights sleep. Hotel by the airport's are worth it? Or stay somewhere close to a FKK?

3. Should I go to Sharks on a Friday or are there other places to go to?

Thanks![/QUOTE]

Dropped by Sharks on Saturday, here's the girls I recognized:

Aichia.

Alicia.

Carla.

Dani.

Daria.

Dina.

Estra.

Evelynn.

Kelli.

Kimberly.

Letti.

Maria.

Mina.

Natalia.

Steffi.

The lineup was good from when I arrived around 1 pm, peaking at around 80 girls around 8 pm.

The ratio of girls: guys was good all day, but being a Saturday it worsened a bit around 8 pm when several of the day girls left.

Still I had no issues finding girls untill after midnight, when there were only 2-3 girls that I found attractive left in the club.

Girls whose company I enjoyed:

Daria (Ro): 26, brunette, superb body, be natural, 165 cm.

I always start off the day with a good BJ with CIM to lighten the load and relax, and quickly spotted Daria and grabbed her for a 1 hour room.

She has an amazing body, with a perfect, tiny pussy. Beautiful face, and really nice be natural's to rest your hands on. I am a big fan of blowjobs, and after 15 minutes of cuddling and DFK she went to work, with her ass up against the mirror, letting me admire and feel her perfect pussy and ass. I've never done anal in a FKK before, but her ass was very inviting, sadly she does not offer. I enjoyed a quite good blowjob, and finished with CIM. Would definitely do more rooms as the atmosphere in the room was top notch with lots of smiles, deep kisses, tongue, and cuddling. Did plan to catch her for another room later that day, but she works from 11-20 each day, and left before I was ready for another room. 150 E total.

Mina (Ro): 22, brunette, A natural, 160 cm.

Having had a rest after the previous room, I was in the mood for a good session. Saw Mina, and instantly grabbed her for a 1 hour room.

Mina is a favorite of mine, but my last session with her was back in 2016, when she didn't speak English. Her English is now good, and we spoke quite a bit during the session. Her blowjob was. Teethy / too rough initially, but with some instructions I could soon relax and enjoy a soft, slow blowjob.

She is very playful and cute in the room, and the first 15 minutes was her sitting atop of me, kissing me, grinding against my dick, talking, kissing and smiling. She does not do DFK, anal or fingering. Her choices, and she has her reasons. I respect that, and have no issues with it. She has a very nice pussy, and for the first time in a FKK I couldn't help myself and licked her pussy for a long time while she gave me a blowjob in 69. Switched to missionary, and after a 15 minute fuck with her staring into my eyes and moaning softly I was done. Enjoyed some cuddling and more small talk before we headed downstairs again. Best session of the night, will definitely repeat. 100 E total.

Letti (Ro): 20, brunette, slim body, be natural, 170 cm.

Later that evening I was in the mood for another good blowjob, and went looking for a girl. Daria had left, and Mina is not someone I go to for a blowjob, so I ended up going with Letti.

Agreed on a 1 hour room with CIM, and as I was desperate for a good BJ, I put her to work directly. Some small instructions, and she was soon giving me a nice, soft and slow blowjob. Unfortunately she kept taking 10-15 second breaks every 30 seconds, so I had no chance of finishing. After 25 minutes she complained that her jaw was tired, and we finished the room after half an hour. 50 E total.

Alicia (Ro): 25, brunette, slim body, see silicon, 170 cm. Glamour model style face, very beautiful.

I was still looking for a good blowjob, and saw an incredibly beautiful girl. Wish she didn't have silicon, her breasts are very. Protruding. Anyhow, 1 hour room with CIM was agreed upon, after having been assured of her good BJ skills.

She was very flirty in the room, grinding her body against mine and kissing me before starting on the blowjob. As I have previously mentioned, I like soft and slow blowjobs, and if a girl can do deep ones as well I am truly in heaven. Alicia did her best, but as I am above average thickness her teeth kept rubbing up against my dick, which was not pleasant at all. Ended the room 5 minute after we arrived, and went back downstairs. Alicia was worried at first, but I explained I was only after a blowjob this time, and said I would definitely do another room with her later, as she was easily the most beautiful girl there that night. 50 E total.

Dina (Hu): Description not needed.

Can't recall her age, but she has gained some curves now, and is not anywhere near the girls I usually go with. She has some amazing eyes and a beautiful smile though. Saw her across the room a bit after my two previous failed blowjob attempts, and went directly to her to book her. She was enjoying a nice foot rub in the couches near the entrance, so we agreed on meeting up 10 minutes later.

I have done several rooms with Dina in the past, and she gives the best blowjobs I've ever had. I am used to there being issues with blowjobs due to thickness, but Dina. I enjoyed 45 minutes of non-stop blowjob, with me controlling every aspect of it. I had her head in my hands, gliding her soft lips up and down my dick, going ever deeper. I am 16 cm or so, and near the end she was taking close to my entire length on every stroke. As I came, she kept sucking while she was looking up at me. If Dina's blowjob was the only session I did in Sharks that night, I would still have been happy spending the 565 E total that I did that night. She is that good. 150 E total.

I feel asleep on one of the upstairs lounge beds, and enjoyed a few hours of sleep. Came down to see Alicia going into a room, and sat down to wait for her, as it was already 2 am. She has an amazing body with a beautiful face, the only downside is the silicon. The silicon is hidden underneath the muscle, leaving the breasts nice and soft to touch, but they look. Almost bullet shaped. She was definitely the most attractive girl there that night, and she did give me a very good vibe in the short room we had earlier. So I waited for an hour, then two. Never saw her come out of the room before I left around 0430 in the morning to catch a plane. Shame, would've loved to do a session with her to round off the evening.

[QUOTE=RockyV;2222979]Sandra De. Hasn't been seen at Sharks for more than a year and I believe she has quit the business.[/QUOTE]According to a good friend of Sandra, she has left this business for good.

[QUOTE=DingoBrax;2223363]Dropped by Sharks on Saturday, here's the girls I recognized:
...

Evelynn.

[/QUOTE]Is it Evelyn, pretty face about 1. 65 m slim with black hair and fair skin?

[QUOTE=DingoBrax;2223363]Dropped by Sharks on Saturday, here's the girls I recognized:

Aichia.

Alicia.

Carla.

Dani.

Daria.

Dina.

Estra.

Evelynn.

Kelli.

Kimberly..[/QUOTE]I also was at Shark that day, found the LU not very sexy also the club was full of guys with migrations background not able to take a shower fully naked, so will stay out of Shark for at least 2 to 3 months.

Was at sharks on Thursday, 13:00-00:00. Actually have to say, it wasn't as bad as I had been expecting. Maybe expectations made it better than it would have been without. The crowd only really started to arrive around 10-11 pm, where's I thought it would arrive immediately after messe at 6-8 pm.

One of the girls I spoke to (at 11:30 pm) said she just arrived half an hour ago. Responding to my look of shock, she said she had come at 5 pm The day before, but the the men didn't show up until about 11 pm On the whole it wasn't bad. Looks like a regular Friday or Saturday night. Lots of girls around, and it was only around midnight when guys Outnumbered girls at the bar.

Typical crowds I guess for messe, you get all types. I was resting out by the pool, some guys while walking past and talking, bump into my lounger, see me and apologize immediately. Others (a group of French guys) decide to settle down right next to my lounger and start talking loudly and obnoxiously, don't know why they didn't go to the other side of the pool area (which was completely deserted except for me). What can you do? It's messe.

Went to room with Steffi. Not the frequently written about blonde one (I only saw her later in the evening about 9 or 10 pm, not during the day as I had before). Steffi from Romania / Moldova, brunette, hair down to waist. She's worked Globe, Dubai, etc. Had a sexy walk. Good room, girl is like a cat in the room. Very slinky and sexy. Don't want to say more, without compromising identity. But good room, 8/10. For reference, 8/10 is about the highest score I've given outside of relationship sex. I. e. , I would repeat.

Some girls seen: Dina (Hun) next to German sitting area. Was very free the whole afternoon. Nice smile, pretty darn good eyes. Bianca looks not as good as years past (imo). Quite a lot of nice titties bouncing around, didn't get all their names. Anita / Annika was probably the pick of that lot. No Brenda, no Elektra, no Breni seen.

It's Shark Week Report #1, Saturday, 9-15-2018.

It's shark week all week unless I can figure out some other clubs worth a visit. I defy you to go to Sharks and not spend less than 300 Euro. There is just too much talent in the club.

My flight from the USA touched down in Frankfurt Airport at 10:37 AM. They say the best way to deal with jet lag is to force yourself to stay up. I take this a step further. I race off to the FKK club and usually stay up till about 2 AM and session with no less than 3 ladies to start a campaign.

This trip was no different. I arrived at Sharks after 3 PM on a Saturday and I left after 1 AM. Sharks was well attended Saturday but it never filled up to the level of say Golden Times and I heard that the room wait was as long as 20 minutes later on in the evening. However, Claudia and I made the program at 10 PM and we were able to get a room upstairs A cabana really with almost no wait.

I sessioned with 3 girls: 1st Session 4 PM 1 hour with Gina the German tattooed porn star looking girl. Excellent I highly recommend. 2nd I was raped by Nisa who told me she was from Portugal. Instead of posting on #HeToo, I went with her to the room and had one of the best DT BJ I have ever had for a 30 minute session. Recommend for 50 Euro /30 min non-optifuck session. 3rd I had a one hour with the lovely Brasileira Goucha, Claudia, the pride of Porto Alegre, Brazil. I recommend.

Over the case of the evening I met with several notable girls and I saw many familiar faces. First, there is that real petite girl with small natural tits curled eyelashes and pouty lips and a real exotic look. She sits at the very first bar stool with brown hair. She is often the first girl you see as you enter the club. She used to have red highlights, tends to wear a red-leather strap outfit, and she is frequently gambling. She was the biggest ***** last visit and she was not out of character tonight. She grabbed me by the hand as I walked by and said "Let's go to the room baby" and I said "No. I just sessioned but what's your name my names."and she threw my hand down and muttered something and the familiar disinterested scowl returned back to her face and brow. She then proceeded to pretend like she didn't hear me. This was a repeat of last year. She is sexy as all hell but who would session with this cold fish? What is her name? What is wrong with this girl who can't even be bothered to say Hello,.

Speaking of bitches, I was approached by the Cleopatra looking RO with the natural tits and tattoo down her leg. She always has her eyes done like Cleopatra and she always comes by and plays with my cock and when I tell her that I have an appointment she tends to yanks her hand away violently in disgust and proceeds to walk off in a huff. She was calling herself Olympia today and I described her in the past as the half Egyptian / half Italian but 100% Romanian girl. I swear she had another name before. Did someone refer to her as Angelina? I heard refer to herself as Olympia tonight. Same hot and cold attitude. Anyways, it was opposite day and that worked well with Gina so I went against my better judgement and I tried to negotiate a 30 minute session for 50 Euro and I said I wanted DFK. She continued to massage my cock and said no DFK for 50 E but she would give a great BJ and when the negotiations were at an impasse she violently pushed my cock away and walked off in a huff. Should I expect different? Does Lucy always pull the football away from Charlie Brown? Of Course. Avoid this one.

My top girl from my March trip, Daria, was not there. Her friends Deca and Rebecca said she will be around next week. Deca was nice but she has floppy tits. I did go to the room with Rebecca last trip and while she still looked beautiful, I did not feel the need to room with her again. She was the optifuck that kept trying to sell service during the session. Their friend Crystal was there and she is a blond out of the same mold as Rebecca but maybe hotter. She was wearing a very unpractical red-leather strap outfit. She and Rebecca look like sisters. I was at the end of the bar to socialize a bit and right away it was the following after Rebecca recognized me from last year:

Rebecca: "Take us to the room. ".

Me: No, I just orgasmed twice and I flew all night I need a break.

Rebecca "What? Take us to the room baby".

Me: "No I'm too tired".

Rebecca "What? Take me to the room".

Me "Rebecca I've just had 3 orgasms and I was awake and miserable all night and I have to recover".

Rebecca "What? Let's go to the room baby. ".

Me "Have a nice day" and I saunter off. Can I not say Hello, to an old acquaintance without hearing "take me to the room" with every utterance?

I ate dinner with Donatella who claims to be from Italy. I met her friend Rena who also claims to be an Italian. They are hot and on the TDL. Mya and Monica were their usual pushy selves. Pushy but hot. I met many new pushy girls. If I had any more strength Mya would have been rewarded for her persistency. She has a future as an insurance agent ("For you I would recommend equitable life. ") She would be perfect. Anyway, there was one other younger girl that I met for the first time. She was the 21 year old RO brunette named Scarlett with a perfect ass and perfect beautiful natural tits and she was tattoo free at first glance. She looked so beautiful and pure and if I had any extra energy. But how many of these girls can I do? 2 or 3 tops and then there is the accidental discharge in this case it in / on / or around the chubby Nisa.

I walked in promising myself to get Gina done. She has this sexy porn star look that fulfills a need. And I had been thinking about her since last visit. Alright! I had been masturbating to her since last trip. I basically told her that I was spending tortured nights dreaming about her. Last time I tried to bargain with her and it pissed her off during the negotiation stage and she said to me "Good Day" every time I tried to talk with her after unsuccessfully trying to negotiate a 30 minute 50 E session. This time, I tried a different tactic. I asked the manager if she was here and it got back to her that a refined classy English businessmen was asking about her. Very soon after entering the club, I went up to her and said I would like to do an hour appointment with you with DFK and I said I would like a BBBJ and she said "Well I can't talk about that out here we can talk in the room. " I went up there and told her how she was the hottest and sexiest girl in the place and that I like to be with German girls because I'm in Germany. I told her I did a few other porn star looking girls and I thought about her. All of this is true. I could see she was flattered. She said I was crazy but she was beaming and we had a great session with a great BJ and DFK and I came reverse CG. Oh what a nice ass she has to grab onto during Reverse CG! Note# She will grab your hand away if you try to stick your finger in her ass and she doesn't allow digits. Best to let her run the show. We laid and smoked a cigarette and I gave her a back rub. She said we had more time and we had another SOG. This time I finished doggie. This was one of my finest sessions in FKK land and Gina really surprised me. She was a really nice girl. I told her that she hadn't seen the last of me. We really hit it off. She was totally worth the money and time. A word of caution: If you are not a nice guy she told me that she will give it right back to you so treat this one well.

Gina noted that her partner in crime, Lara is out till next week. If I want to do a 3-sum it is best to wait for her.

I was asleep on one of the three cabana chairs by the sauna and that was when I was mulled by Nisa. She said she is from Portugal but she wouldn't speak Portuguese with me and said I speak Brazilian Portuguese (which is true) and she acted like she couldn't understand me. I was laying there trying to make up for missed sleep on the awful flight across the pond the night before and she groped me and even kissed me a bit. This was spontaneous and I got hard. I like spontaneity and she would be rewarded for this approach. I asked for a 30 minute 50 Euro session. Looks wise, she is definitely on the Sharks be-team but I haven't had a girl deep throat me like that. It turned out to be one of the best 30 minute sessions ever and it was only 50 Euros at Sharks!

Next I made friends with a couple of Germans from Stuttgart. I met them during Dieter's sauna sessions and we hung out for the next few hours trading stories. He did room a real hottie RO named Kaili. He pointed her out. She was tall, young, and natural looking but wouldn't let him do DATY on her. I don't blame him for choosing her but she is young and we agreed that typically when the girls put on a few years they tend to perform better. "The experienced girls don't freak out if you don't cum in 15 minutes" as he put it. I think that 26-32 ish years of age is a sweet spot for me. Later, my friend told me that he did Gina. All three of us contributed to Gina that day. Anyway, my friend's favorite Sauna club is Sakura and he offered to pick me up at the train station next week to visit with him. It is always good to visit a new club with a regular. I may just take him up on it.

By the way Deiter told me that the Sauna team meets for hourly session 4 times / week. I believe it is Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and Saturday but he said that they have different time schedules depending on the day. Today's treatments were every hour starting at 5 PM and ended at midnight. Search for my reports in March of this year. This is a great experience and I highly recommend this. This is the best part of Sharks in my opinion. As I write this, my skin feels amazing!

Next I ran into Claudia from the South of Brazil. She is a gaucha from Rio Grande Do Sul. This is the state that is said to produce the most beautiful women in Brazil. When she introduced herself as Claudia I said "voce e' Brasileira?" I said this too quickly because she wanted to know how I knew. I finally fessed up and said I read it on a forum. I said I was looking for her because of this. She only wanted to know if she was well thought of on that forum. I told her "would I be looking for you if you weren't?" It was getting late and she wanted to do a 1-hour 150 Euro session. Again, I noticed as the evening progressed that the 100 Euro 1-hour session morphed into a 150 Euro session. I told her that I was too tired and I wanted her to be the highlight of my day and that I would save it for tomorrow. That was all I needed to do to get her to counter with a 1-hour 100 E session. She turned to me and said "OK, let's make a deal but no crazy stuff like sticking your finger up her ass." I said deal. We did DFK and then she lubed me up and gave a good BJ. I ate her which she liked and told me later that I am a good lover. We did Meia Nove (69) followed by several positions of fucking. Yep, I was right. On no sleep and after 3 shots on goal I was having trouble cumming. She kept adding oil to my cock. She oiled her nice tits and gave me Russian which was a nice change of pace. But she said "take care: If you cum on me that is 30 E extra. " Man this girl has muscular legs and arms and bunda (I like the Brazilian tan lines on the ass too). She is a former dancer. Like Gina, she is not the youngest girl in the club but she knows how to please a man and looks great to me. I finally came with her oil hand job and ball massage and she said there was barely any fluid. I said that was what I was trying to tell you. We did click as we had a lot in common and she helped me to practice my Portuguese. Enjoy this one and remember that you are doing a goucha which is considered by my Brazilian friends as the best of the best in Brazil. According to my friend, Gus these are the best girls in Brazil and there is no discussion about it. Treat her well.

I continued to meet nice fuckable young girls at the club but I didn't session. There was a lovely Colombiana with huge fake tits, tats, brown eyes and shorter hair and a very cute exotic face. I believe her name is Angelina. She was in the 150 Euro per hour mode during the club prime time so, even so she was so nice, I decided against the program. I met her too late in the evening. I tried to get a short session with her but this is another example of the club getting busy and prices or minimum times and services go upward as the top girls are holding out for 1-hour, 150 Euro sessions. She is a top girl and probably worth it but I didn't have 150 Euro pop left in me. Another notable was Graziana, a young brunette who looked lovely and was very charming. Juliana with her perky beautiful C's was there. I also sat briefly with a black girl from Frankfurt named Jennifer. I had no energy for these fine girls. I told Jennifer I didn't want to waste her time and she said I wasn't and left. I hope to write about these girls tomorrow as Shark Week continues.

Shark Week Continues.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2224820]

Next I ran into Claudia from the South of Brazil. It was getting late and she wanted to do a 1-hour 150 Euro session. Again, I noticed as the evening progressed that the 100 Euro 1-hour session morphed into a 150 Euro session. I told her that I was too tired and I wanted her to be the highlight of my day and that I would save it for tomorrow. That was all I needed to do to get her to counter with a 1-hour 100 E session. She turned to me and said "OK, let's make a deal but no crazy stuff like sticking your finger up her ass." I said deal.
.[/QUOTE]Great review especially this part. I have read and heard mixed things on Claudia (one guy warned me in a message she is a total you know what and avoid at all costs but a search of his reviews clearly indicated to me he is the issue not the girls, the patterns clearly point to him as the idiot) but I had nothing but good vibes (and now confirmed by you) on her having spoken to her at length I found her to be a potentially great girl and great value. She was always seated on the back stage next to Luci / Hannah who I always saw, was Luci there by chance? Either or both of those girls are on or at the top of my hit list for an upcoming trip perhaps together, just not sure I will have time to make it to Sharks until October or November too much else planned. Interesting she is asking 150 now, good she took 100. Last time there I told Claudia I would see her next day (she was absent the following day) but in lieu of asking Claudia for a price with a double hanging out there I figured it was best to go thru Luci and told Luci to tell Claudia what we do for the hour 100 and see if she was ok with it which she was at 100 and both were cool with a 200 hour for a double all ' good blowjobs' too no charge for switching etc and would blow in unison not one after the other with that paper towel wipe up (I hate that shit) ; will see if she tries for 150 now. If so will just take Luci or grab another if she is absent. I am usually a daytime guy and Claudia the few times I saw her mid day was on an unemployment line a very long time chain smoking alone until the locals Germans / Turks showed up about dinner time and she became a factory as they all fucked her non-stop appeared to be all 50 rooms were quick always back in 30 minutes.

That is all the proof I needed, same w Luci.

Great review, lots of names, good job and happy you had a great time; well deserved evening. Just to clarify, you found Claudia's 100 hour morphing in to 150 or you noticed a majority of Sharks raising the stakes to 150 from 100 in the evenings?

I gave up after ten minutes trying to nominate this for a Rod, anyone who is competent and technically literate please do so if you can, I can only get a 7 digit post number not the six... thx

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2224860]Great review, lots of names, good job and happy you had a great time; well deserved evening. I gave up after ten minutes trying to nominate this for a Rod, anyone who is competent and technically literate please do so if you can, I can only get a 7 digit post number not the six... thx[/QUOTE]Done and another report added as well!

;)

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2224860]Great review especially this part. I have read and heard mixed things on Claudia (one guy warned me in a message she is a total you know what and avoid at all costs but a search of his reviews clearly indicated to me he is the issue not the girls, the patterns clearly point to him as the idiot) but I had nothing but good vibes (and now confirmed by you) on her having spoken to her at length I found her to be a potentially great girl and great value. She was always seated on the back stage next to Luci / Hannah who I always saw, was Luci there by chance? Either or both of those girls are on or at the top of my hit list for an upcoming trip perhaps together, just not sure I will have time to make it to Sharks until October or November too much else planned. Interesting she is asking 150 now, good she took 100. Last time there I told Claudia I would see her next day (she was absent the following day) but in lieu of asking Claudia for a price with a double hanging out there I figured it was best to go thru Luci and told Luci to tell Claudia what we do for the hour 100 and see if she was ok with it which she was at 100 and both were cool with a 200 hour for a double all ' good blowjobs' too no charge for switching etc and would blow in unison not one after the other with that paper towel wipe up (I hate that shit) ; will see if she tries for 150 now. If so will just take Luci or grab another if she is absent. I am usually a daytime guy and Claudia the few times I saw her mid day was on an unemployment line a very long time chain smoking alone until the locals Germans / Turks showed up about dinner time and she became a factory as they all fucked her non-stop appeared to be all 50 rooms were quick always back in 30 minutes.

That is all the proof I needed, same w Luci.

Great review, lots of names, good job and happy you had a great time; well deserved evening. Just to clarify, you found Claudia's 100 hour morphing in to 150 or you noticed a majority of Sharks raising the stakes to 150 from 100 in the evenings?

[/QUOTE]Yes, Claudia sits on the stage. And yes, I felt that as it got busy they started morphing into 150 E / hour mode. I may be wrong but that is what I felt. It could be that I am starting to ask for a lot in the room? BBBJ, DFK, finger play on her and on me etc. Etc. So maybe my desires are increasing a bit but this club is a bit of a challenge to find that 50 E /30 min session all-you-can-eat and saying 1-hour for 100 E doesn't cover it. 150 E seems to always cover it. This is what every hot girl is driving at and as it gets later in the day and busier, the 30 minute 50 E session becomes less and less likely. Until the club starts to clear out. Now, if you're ok with a 30 min 100 E session I think this is easy.

Claudia is a sweetheart. However, she is a WG / GDP Garota De Programa and she is there to make the program. I respect this. Having said that, her and I hit it off. It was fun having a session and we spoke Portuguese for most of the time. And yes, she really is a Gaucha from Rio grande De Sul. When I was negotiating with the ladies in her area her another blond told me she was from Argentina and we were talking. I walked back towards the stage and Claudia grabbed me by the hand and said "that girls not from Brasil. She's from Romania!" I said "Today she is from Argentina" and we laughed.

I would of thought Gina was a Biatch to but she turned out to be the sweetest girl. She has all these tats and piercings and the hair down to her ankles and the glasses and 6" heels. I just wanted her to put a collar me and walk me around the room but she turns out to be very GFE and a sweetheart. I am actually a little surprised at how well we clicked. She even said when I told her I had fantasies about her dominating me and I wish I could buy porn movies with her as the star. She laughed and told me "You see all the tattoos and just assume. " Yes, I'm Guilty. She really is a sweetheart too and she was not a clock watcher. I did ask her "how can you be on your game for every guy. " She said that she cannot. She even said that some of the girls work Wednesday through Sunday and she said that sometimes they go home early Sunday because the week was so long and exhausting so factor this in. It is patterns that we need to look for not just one bad report.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2224877]Yes, Claudia sits on the stage. And yes, I felt that as it got busy they started morphing into 150 E / hour mode. I may be wrong but that is what I felt. It could be that I am starting to ask for a lot in the room? BBBJ, DFK, finger play on her and on me etc. Etc. So maybe my desires are increasing a bit but this club is a bit of a challenge to find that 50 E /30 min session all-you-can-eat and saying 1-hour for 100 E doesn't cover it. 150 E seems to always cover it. This is what every hot girl is driving at and as it gets later in the day and busier, the 30 minute 50 E session becomes less and less likely. Until the club starts to clear out. Now, if you're ok with a 30 min 100 E session I think this is easy.

Claudia is a sweetheart. However, she is a WG / GDP Garota De Programa and she is there to make the program. I respect this. Having said that, her and I hit it off. It was fun having a session and we spoke Portuguese for most of the time.
[/QUOTE]Makes sense, birds of a feather flock together and I remember Luci saying the same thing she does 50/100 but rejects all the fingering stuff and a&& play now but 50/100 for a good BJ DATY Sex in MP and a full hour is a deal. I also pass on DFK all the time not the least bit interested unless it just happens but will never pay for that; I tell the 50 Sharks BBBJ sin goma and sex and for the 100 60 min add in DATY; sometimes the 50's give up the DATY as well.

Claudia carries extra value for you with your ability to practice her native tongue, I spent my time speaking just Spanish with her which is very fluid and clear and she is fluent. Her Spanish was crystal clear like the Colombians, the Costa Ricans and Dominicans all considered by many to have the best.

Good job.

[QUOTE=Der Auslander;2224866]Done and another report added as well!

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Thank you Sir

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2224820]Next I made friends with a couple of Germans from Stuttgart. I met them during Dieter's sauna sessions and we hung out for the next few hours trading stories..[/QUOTE]One of these locals was and is still me I guess. We were talking beside the pool about german pornstars. Do you remember when I was talking about Saskia Farell? ([URL]https://www.saskia-farell.com[/URL]). Take a look, maybe it is sth for you. Especially Lena Nitro (real daughter of the fake-named Saskia Farell, she's a pretty big number in porn biz). You can find her on every porn-page if they have the category "German". SF still organizes events at heir home base in Kaarst / NRW. Take a look at their billboard-ish event plan. They do write "swingers" but it is still gangbang what they are doing there (new law).

And yes in Sharks Gina was my first girl that day. Or let's say Lady. After her I was "rooming" 2 real girls. Mila (crazy girl who looks a bit like Natalie Dormer) and of course Melissa. Especially Melissa has her very own price policy. 20 year pink haired girl with a skin like a peeled egg, smooth and yummy. She is tall, very smart!, white skinned and with even whiter bikini sunburn lines around her little ass (so sexy). However I booked one hour with her but she was still selling. Very strange price negotiation I never experienced that way after being a pro *****monger for over 12 years now, but we made a solid deal and went to one of the rooms upstairs. Normally I don't pay that much for rom-girls, but she is really special. You know the feeling when you split an apple with a knife? Fucking her was just like that feeling, a vaginal explosion somehow. And her blowjob was the same way, somehow very special and tight. My dick got hard like I was 20 again. She's worth it, I felt younger again. The Line Up was not that perfect that day and she was the queen of the night anyways (entering the club pretty late, she knows her value and she knows what she is doing). She also has a crystal clear concept of her life, I found out when I had the after-sex talk. So I have to disagree that only the old gals provide good service.

However have fun in Sakura. Maybe I am there too, but only when German Carmen is back on the attendance list again. Let's hope and pray. Amen.

So now you have to pay 150 for one hour in Sharks? That's nearly twice the price as in Acapulco. I hope this new trend doesn't spread to NRW.

Friday morning I woke up pretty early, I had to check-out and leave the hotel. We agreed with one of my ex-colleagues to go back to Frankfurt for a walk in the daytime and explore the place, so we did.

Quick checkout, meeting at central station — I even managed to take breakfast, since he was running bit late. We took the train and got the Frankfurt Central Station. I was lucky to have only a back-pack with me since for trips less than one week I manage to pack all in it. Trust me, it put some heat on me while walking around 12 kilometers with it. We walked whole day till 3 PM, want to notice that Frankfurt is a nice place to be with a variety of streets and districts. The weather was nice and I simply felt in love with the city. The lunch was impressive and bit pricey, we took some stakes and radler beers. Was good, both ways I love Irish or American stakes which are decent in size.

Finally closer to 4:30 PM we've got to my hotel where I finally dropped of the backpack. I felt tired, very tired. But still had the plan in my head to get to FKK place. I started to doubt if I will make it, since I was walking with this backpack whole day. Which made me very tired. Both ways, my colleague was waiting me downstairs since I promised a trip back and one of the reasons was the FKK club. I told that I need to make it, because otherwise I will never discover this type of experience and I needed a good sex since I did not have it for while. Long while. Very long while.

I got downstairs, apparently we found a train station close to the hotel and headed our way back outside Frankfurt. The train was stopping at every station. Which made our journey twice longer. I was not taking care of it anymore. Since there was no way back. Ended at central station of Darmstadt again, said goodbye to my colleague and started to craft my way to FKK using GMAPS.

Stopped by Pharmacy and bought some Durex and antibacterial solution. I'm too paranoid about cleanliness and disinfection and that's good way to make at least first step to avoid STDs.

Bad decision was to take a walk to the place itself, I think it added extra 5 KM on my distance for that day and I barely got to the place. I better took the Taxi. I was killed. Is like crossing whole city somewhere outside in the field where is nothing and only industrial buildings around.

Finally I got there! The place was huge, surrounded by a fence and lots of cars parked, which means there are a lot of customers already inside. I started to walk to the Gate direction and passed a good amount of cars till I got to the entrance. When I passed in — I felt like I'm at some hotel there was a receptionist and a queue of persons in front of me (around 5–6 persons). Receptionist was charging for entrance around 65 Eur and her colleague was handing towels, slippers and a bathrobe. You get a key and a chip bracelet attached on your hand, that makes you feel safe about your belongings. I would say the place is very safe and there is nothing to worry about. Cameras are even in changing rooms, I think that's a good trade for your safety.

While staying in the queue I could already see the entrance to main "play-ground" the bar and men walking in blue, white bathrobes and lots of completely naked girls hanging around giggling and cuddling. Remember I was completely lost after the whole day walking and starting to be bit more nervous, at least my pulse started to grow LOL. I took the utilities and carried them over to dressing room, got naked — took a shower (which is public no privacy and nobody carries about you). I put the bathrobe on me and headed to the bar zone aka playground.

And it was wooooow! I did not regret a minute that I got to this place. Around 50–60 naked girls all over the place having drinks, chatting, or just sitting. The place is huge. I stopped by the bar and ordered a whiskey with cola. A girl came from behind and started to hug me and saying that she likes me. She was tall, cute blonde, pretty slim. I smiled and asked to give me some time, since I just came and trying to get accommodate with the place LOL.

My drink was ready, another girl which was from the beginning near me smiled and I started a conversation with her, she was very pleasant and explained me more about the place, so here what it includes:

Bar — where you mainly meet the girls and maybe even other persons to talk to.

Second floor, still in the bar a set of jacauzzi's arround 3–4 and set of relaxing beds to stay on and watch from the above the bar and the girls.

Second floor, other wing contains a set of rooms that you go with the girl to have some fun with.

Outside terrace with a pool and a buffet where you can serve drinks and food all day long.

The place has at least 2 sauna's one outside and one inside.

Terrace has a lot of deck chairs, where you can simply rest or even sleep. It is surrounded with bushes and after them there are some smaller houses where you can take the girl in and have fun.

I hanged at the bar a bit talking to that girl. Sorry I never remember names from the first time — so cannot type them into this story. I really liked her and she was polite and kind to me. Still looking at other girls around, and God. They are all so gorgeous and how she mentioned 90% are Romanians.

I thought it was quite a shocking start for me and I decided to take the drink and get outside for a smoke or maybe a couple of them again delaying the things (my style).

I crossed the buffet and staid at the table on the terrace, started to smoke. There were another 5–6 persons outside chilling. In a couple of minutes a girl went outside to terrace, they do it from time to time and started to go my direction. It was dark haired Romanian girl with Latin accent, sitting directly on my lap and start to kiss my neck and giving questions slowly. You know how it starts. Your name, where are you from. We got closer to the topic, she said she does everything and the price for that starts for 50 Eur what we call full-service and it lasts 30 min.

Well, I think this sounds better than Amsterdam or Frankfurt Redlight, right? Way more clean, bit more pricy but you get top looking girls and a good variety of selection + an amazing time. You can spend even whole day other there or return several times per day. I feel these 60 Eur are proving its value, since you get buffet, sauna, free soft drinks and coffee, good ambiance. On top you add extra 50 for every contact you make with the girl in a separate room. I kindly explained her that, I just came and need some time to make my selection. She understood and left.

Second cigarette, 3 minutes passed since that girl left. 2 stunning blonde sisters appear in the doorway and start moving my way, I have no clue why they were not choosing other guys but they were keep going to me. 2 barbies, with enhanced silicon breasts, some tattoos, sexy outfit and very nice looking. One even had a rhinestone little above the pus*why. And again, same discussions take us together to the room, let's have some fun. I barely got rid of them. I took my drink and headed over to the pool and got laid on the deck chairs. This was a good choice which gave me a bit of rest, at least another 10 minutes.

Shortly, I decided to check-out the sauna and crossed the bar region, the sauna inside is pretty nice equipped and had decent temperature inside. There were some guys already in it around 2–3 and considering it was a Friday evening, I feel I was lucky that it was not packed. I took a shower and stepped in. There is a program every hour that Sauna Team comes and refreshes it with different flavors, brings eyes and heats it up even bringing a magic box with music. You know the german rock. That was amazing again!

Well, I felt the time was passing. And I need to make my decision soon. And I felt way more rested. I think sauna relaxed me enough. I went to grab some more soft drinks and went upstairs where I could see all the girls from bird's sight. The whole place impressed me and the way all works. Pretty clean, towels, persons who clean periodically the floors. I felt more safe. Now I was bit warmed and the nervosity went away. I hanged around the bar with an ebony girl, she pretended to be clever enough and I got bit amused when I found out she talks Romanian. Usually Romanians are white skinned or the other ones are more gypsies way. But not this one. Skills.

I can say for sure that I would go with at least 70% of the girls randomly since they all were so amazing and nice looking, but starting to find that only one. And feel the character and avoid the ones which want to do things in the rush.

One of the girls was sitting where the poll area is, I staid and talked to her. She was tall blonde, Romanian with enhanced breast and lips were bit bigger also enhanced but she was looking decent and the communication went over in a nice way. Feels she was bit tired since we had much of discussion and she was not trying to sell me anything. I came over with proposal first. And she agreed. She took my hand and we went to the zero floor, unfortunately rooms were busy and there was one couple in the queue waiting. She hugged me and gave some kisses around my neck. I was already hard. She felt that and smiled. She pushed me a bit back and said to chill we going to try to get a room upstairs. So we did, we went upstairs and almost instantly got into a room — full of mirrors. You know like in that tale. I like such places, you can enjoy yourself from over point of view and see the whole action going on. When you see it from other angle.

She arranged the bed and pushed me a bit to the glass wall, started to kiss and undress. Than slowly started to move down and gave a decent deep BBBJ. She was not hurrying — she was doing it very slowly. I really enjoyed the way it was going. Like in a porn movie, I hate when it goes mechanically. But it was not her case. Than we moved to the bed and had a nice session of doggie. I could see her form all angles. She was amazing, I regret I did not do 1 h session with her.

I went downstairs — was arround 10 PM and was starting to think that I need to leave soon, since I need to get back to Frankfurt. But no way! Since I'm here I need to make one more move since first time is always faster. Second time would be the most enjoyable one.

I went back to the poll floor, she was not there. Probably taking a shower but I noticed another short blond girl, I would call her with french term "petite", very lovely face. She was with another 2 girls that were catching my sight on her. I touched her with hand, 5 minutes after we went upstairs. She let me control herself, again no rush, no stress. We spent around 20 minutes also had a nice talk she was smiling all the time and joking. She is the type of the girl I really liked. And she wrapped up my trip.

I went out happy and well-balanced now morally and physically. I was impressed by that place, girls and the service. Just to summarize it get's bit pricey if you take in consideration Hotel + Travel + Entrance Fee + Fun, just plan to have around 300–400 only for that place to enter and have fun. All the rest depends on the place you stay. I would make it again for a week-end trip when I'm back to Europe. Also, next time I would plan to stay more time and make several visits during my stay in Frankfurt.

Keep tuned and follow me in my next reports about cultures and interesting sexpat places, also curious to hear about the places you have been and the way it went!

[QUOTE=Stuggi;2224885]One of these locals was and is still me I guess. We were talking beside the pool about german pornstars. Do you remember when I was talking about Saskia Farell? ([URL]https://www.saskia-farell.com[/URL]). Take a look, maybe it is sth for you. Especially Lena Nitro (real daughter of the fake-named Saskia Farell, she's a pretty big number in porn biz). You can find her on every porn-page if they have the category "German". SF still organizes events at heir home base in Kaarst / NRW. Take a look at their billboard-ish event plan. They do write "swingers" but it is still gangbang what they are doing there (new law).

And yes in Sharks Gina was my first girl that day. Or let's say Lady. After her I was "rooming" 2 real girls. Mila (crazy girl who looks a bit like Natalie Dormer) and of course Melissa.[/QUOTE]Hey Stuggi! I lost you guys after my session with Claudia. You guys left? Was it Dieter's sauna treatment entitled: Welcome To Hell? Great report. I have to look up Melissa. New report will be forthcoming shortly.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2224961]So now you have to pay 150 for one hour in Sharks? That's nearly twice the price as in Acapulco. I hope this new trend doesn't spread to NRW.[/QUOTE]It seems that the top girls want it for an hour anything goes fun. Read between the lines BJ. Wink Wink, nod nod. A winks as good as a nod to a blind bat. Say no more. Say no more. Your wife. Is she a goer?

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2224961]So now you have to pay 150 for one hour in Sharks? That's nearly twice the price as in Acapulco. I hope this new trend doesn't spread to NRW.[/QUOTE]Its the price that tourists are charged. This pricing will spread to any club that has a high number of tourists. It may catch on further with time. For 150 per hour you might as well go to Globe in Zurich where the optics are better and you are asked if you have received good service. I avoid clubs where you are not asked by management if you have enjoyed your stay. Rules out a lot of Frankfurt clubs!

I think that at Globe you only get 30 minutes with that.

Shark Week Day 2.

I saw a post on Facebook that said "Live Like Every Day is Shark Week. " Well this week it is Sharks week for me so I returned to the club.

I got up in the morning and I decided to go to Sharks later in the day. I got there after 5 PM. The place was a little quieter than the same time the day before but there still seemed to be no parking.

I decided I was going to go in and try to do one appointment and leave. I asked the lady at the desk if there is a short timer fee because I had a dinner appointment at 9 PM. She looked up at me like I was crazy. She told me that if I had to go that I could just talk to her and she would let me back in after my appointment.

I walked in and it was a beautiful afternoon and they were grilling outside. There were a lot of people around the pool so maybe the crowd from Saturday was a bit more spread out. As I walked in Gina was waiting for me. She told me she had been waiting for me all afternoon. I looked at her and I just wasn't feeling it. I thought to myself I've had her. I said Gina, can you let me have a little something to eat and rest a bit after. I'm still tired. When I told her I needed at least 45 minutes to an hour she said she was going home. I said if you do I'll catch you and Lara for a 3-sum next week. It is the stupid shit like this that is going to haunt me later when I return and she demands a 3-sum and she was waiting all week for me and I promised etc. Etc.

I walked in and I saw this beautiful thin petite RO with short sculpted black hair that I wanted last night. I didn't know her name last night and I couldn't get close to her.

But I remembered that I wanted that girl. I stopped her and she said her name is Ava. She was quite popular the night before. I asked her to sit down but she said that she had an appointment. She said that I could be next. I decided to pull the trick that my German friend from the night before mentioned. I tried to be nonchalant and I tailed her to the cabin like a good Private Investigator would. I decided to stake out her cabin. After about 10 minutes of this I felt like a fool. I said fuck it and decided to take a walk through the bar. I saw the usual girls: Melanie, Scarlet, Mya, Ada et. Al. Then all of a sudden this 5'2" 25 year old RO girl that looks like Mila Kunis walks in. Her name in Elona. She pronounces it E-lun-a. I love how she has her hair up with these two two pieces of hair falling in her face and over her eyes. I have forgotten all about my stakeout and All Points Bulletin I have on Ava. (Ironically, I found out later that she and Ava are best friends).

I approached Elona and I told her that she looked like Ashton Kucher's wife. I couldn't think of the name. She couldn't think of who the heck Ashton Kucher even was. She told me to get my phone. I told her that I can't bring my Smartphone in the bar but she said that this was an emergency. Instead I went to the front and the lady at the desk pulled up pictures. Fuck it. I had to session with Mila Kunis.

Session #1: Mila. I mean Elona".

She said that she would do a 30 minute 100 E session and everything was included. Everything and anything (Wink wink, nod, nod). She is a hot little girl that is a dead ringer for Mila but Elona is even prettier. She has a nice little bubble butt and she does squats every other day to make it bigger. She has sexy little enhanced the's maybe big see's and a tiny little waist and a mischievous smile that made my insides melt. She promised DFK and she delivered. It was wet and sloppy and lots of tongue like the old porn star Sika would give. She had me undress and sit in a chair and told me I was the king. She got on her knees and sucked me like no tomorrow (she's a goer say no more, say no more.) I was really enjoying my time but I suggested we move to the bed and we 69'nd and she fucked me in MPOS with lots of DFK any time I could reach her. She initiated the kissing like she likes kissing. I was doing her doggie and she turned and looked back at me and smiled. Classic. We finished with a BJ and, as I said, she's a goer. Say no more say no more and we kissed after that. She is a dirty little girl. Treat her well. The 30 minute session was as long as most of my hour sessions. She was worth every Euro. And she let me "wink, win, nod, nod. She's a goer. And her mouth.

I walked around the bar and ran into Claudia and she called me Amore which always gets my dick hard. She pulled the same thing as Gina and called me a minteroso. I told her I was not and reiterated in Portuguese that I love her and I want to merry her and have children with her. Then after she was done playing with me I saw Anastasia, my crazy little anal enthusiast that did back surgery on me last year. She is so cute and mischievous and we spoke for a record 5 or 6 minute until she said "We go to the room, now?" No Anastasia. Not today. I've had you too.

I made my way around the bar and I stopped at the German section. Gina had bailed so I spoke with Alicia who looks a little bit like Gina but maybe a more toned down (I don't mean weight) version of Gina. Alicia informed me that she is half Greek and Half German. I wanted to know which half was Greek and which half was German. This really threw her for a loop. She had a customer but said she would come find me later.

It was just then that I saw Angelina, that tatted up little Colombiana with the bubble ass and the huge the's. For a second I lost my sense of self control and I cupped a titty and she said nicely "I told you baby, in the room only. " I walked away and I had a steak on the back deck. The food was not half bad. I actually got a good steak and the sausage was tasty. I tried to sleep on one of the cabana chairs and out comes Ada. She sits by me and awakens my penis. She said that she is not crazy like the others but for 100 E she will give me a great 30 minute session with everything. Since she chose me I held fast at 50 E and she finally walked away. It was nice and I was ready for SOG#2 and I would of worked something out with her. Say 75 E? Just then, Angelina came walking by and I decided to track her down. She became is Shot On Goal (SOG)#2.

Session #2 Angelina, 5'5", tatted up Colombiana with big fake tits and a sexy big bubble butt. She's got some American Indian coloring in her and she told me later that her Grandfather was Indian. In Brazil I go crazy for this type of girl. I stopped her and notified Angelina that we were taking the plunge. I said let's do a 30 minute 100 E session with everything. We went to the room and the first thing she did was spray my hands and her hads with some anit bac cleaner and told me that I can put my hands anywhere. She provided DFK and a nice BJ (wink, wink, nod, nod) and we did multiple positions of sex. She is a skilled lover and has great people skills. The session was not as good as the one prior with Elona and she didn't do as many things but it was good enough for me and Angelina is now a notch in my bed post. I recommend with enthusiasm. Next time, she said she will ride me CG while smoking a cigarette...this will be great for my smoke fetish.

Later I saw Venus by the stage on the right side of the bar. I walked up and re-introduced myself. She was the girl I called the best value in Sharks last year. However, I told her I was out of juice and I vowed to return next week saying "I shall return. ".

I was walking out and a German girl named Sophia from Hamburg jumped me. She is a nice girl but I wouldn't fuck her for free. She wanted to know where I learned my German. I informed her that I watched a lot of Hogans Heroes as a kid and I picked up lots of German. And I threatened to send her TO THE RUSSIAN FRONT! And made my best Colonel Clink impression and said "HOOOOOGANNNNN! She had a blank look on her face.

About the last girl I met was Eva-rica or something like this. She is a tall slender RO with bright red, mid length hair. She told me that she likes to be dominated in the room or she gets bored but she needs 100E and not 50E and I can be her master...I asked her what if, as her master, I demand she take only 50E? I asked her what her safe word and she said "Cheapskate.".

Elona and Ava were sitting on the stage and I talked to them. I went to say goodnight to Elona and Ava. I told Elona that Ava was the girl I had the appointment with when I went with you. I learned that they were best friends and we all laughed. Those two are the hottest in the club and Ava is very busy. Elona asked if I would like to take the two of them to dinner. That would be fun.

I got my stuff and went to reception to hand in my key and I saw a Chinese man give my Venus two 100 E bills. I wonder if Venus will ever be that 50 E /30 minute girl anymore. Too late to find out now. It is after 10 and I'm going home. I was able to extricate myself with a mere 260 E of damage and two more notches on my bed post.

Note# Each of the two 100 E 30 minute sessions I had seemed as long as any of the hour sessions (save SOG #1 and #2 with Gina from the day prior). I think that I will do more of these to conserve cash and maximize the number of new notches I can put on my belt and bed post.

Good night all. That is shark week for tonight.

Wink, wink, nod, nod.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2225023] Next time, she said she will ride me CG while smoking a cigarette...this will be great for my smoke fetish.
[/QUOTE]Interesting, I have asked for the same in Sharks and elsewhere except I like to eat them out while they smoke not fuck them although not against it. I really like the dirty ones who smoke the menthol ones! Trashy and sleazy :D

Glad you had another fun day and entertained us again.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2225029]Interesting, I have asked for the same in Sharks and elsewhere except I like to eat them out while they smoke not fuck them although not against it. I really like the dirty ones who smoke the menthol ones! Trashy and sleazy :D

Glad you had another fun day and entertained us again.[/QUOTE]Glad you liked it KK. Yes, I'm a sick fuck like you LOL! I got so many fetishes. I can't fit them all in. I usually make the girls wear their shoes in bed. However, I see the girls putting bandages on their toes. I do take some mercy.

[QUOTE=Lover28X;2224994]Friday morning I woke up pretty early, I had to check-out and leave the hotel. We agreed with one of my ex-colleagues to go back to Frankfurt for a walk in the daytime and explore the place, so we did.

Keep tuned and follow me in my next reports about cultures and interesting sexpat places, also curious to hear about the places you have been and the way it went![/QUOTE]Thanks for the report and welcome to the board. Do you know the names of the girls you saw? Fun place, eh?

HS101.

[QUOTE=DerAuslander;2225003]Its the price that tourists are charged. This pricing will spread to any club that has a high number of tourists. It may catch on further with time. For 150 per hour you might as well go to Globe in Zurich where the optics are better and you are asked if you have received good service. I avoid clubs where you are not asked by management if you have enjoyed your stay. Rules out a lot of Frankfurt clubs![/QUOTE]No, Globe rate is 130 € for 30 mn, not so more expensive than some Sharks or Oase girls, and 260 for 1 h, but including sweet social time, full time spent in room, and erotic shower together after paying when girl likes You, so You can have about 1 h staying with your girl for 130. Also not same level for looks compare to quite average Sharks casting except on mid June, and not same level for love in bed. Who are the new elegant Katalina. Ro at Sharks? 1 could compete on mid June for elegance and classy manners, but not in bed and she stayed only 2 weeks.

More interesting casting seen on this Friday at Palace. Lack of elegance for most of Sharks girls. Have to work hard most often to find a attractive one.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2225091]No, Globe rate is 130 for 30 mn, not so more expensive than some Sharks or Oase girls, and 260 for 1 h, but including sweet social time, full time spent in room, and erotic shower together after paying when girl likes You, so You can have about 1 h staying with your girl for 130. Also not same level for looks compare to quite average Sharks casting except on mid June, and not same level for love in bed. Who are the new elegant Katalina. Ro at Sharks? 1 could compete on mid June for elegance and classy manners, but not in bed and she stayed only 2 weeks.

More interesting casting seen on this Friday at Palace. Lack of elegance for most of Sharks girls. Have to work hard most often to find a attractive one.[/QUOTE]Yes, many of the Sharks girls have missing teeth and show signs of scurvy and other maritime diseases. Meanwhile Globe girls have two sets of tits and you can fuck doggie and play with the tits on their back at the same time. If you are from the US they will also do your taxes. Brought the 1040 long form last April and one girl found a deduction that my accountant missed that saved me an extra 500 $ so their little higher cost averages out over the long haul.

Is there any guys would like to go with me to share the gas? Leaving from downtown Frankfurt.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2225091]No, Globe rate is 130 for 30 mn, not so more expensive than some Sharks or Oase girls, and 260 for 1 h, but including sweet social time, full time spent in room, and erotic shower together after paying when girl likes You, so You can have about 1 h staying with your girl for 130. Also not same level for looks compare to quite average Sharks casting except on mid June, and not same level for love in bed. [/QUOTE]My point exactly! Or at least the point I was trying to make. If you are happy to pay over the odds in the Frankfurt area FKKs, why not head to Zurich and FKK Globe instead where the selection of girls is of a very high standard (much higher than Sharks or Oase) and where performance and satisfaction are pretty much guaranteed. Alternatively if you don't want to pay tourist prices, why not head away from the Sharks / Oase tourist factories and head for the other sizable FKKs also in the Hessen area, or go to Dusseldorf, Stuttgart or Munich where tourist rates are not charged (or are much less likely to be charged). The money you save will pay for the rental car.

[QUOTE=DerAuslander;2225297]My point exactly! Or at least the point I was trying to make. If you are happy to pay over the odds in the Frankfurt area FKKs, why not head to Zurich and FKK Globe instead where the selection of girls is of a very high standard (much higher than Sharks or Oase) and where performance and satisfaction are pretty much guaranteed. Alternatively if you don't want to pay tourist prices, why not head away from the Sharks / Oase tourist factories and head for the other sizable FKKs also in the Hessen area, or go to Dusseldorf, Stuttgart or Munich where tourist rates are not charged (or are much less likely to be charged). The money you save will pay for the rental car.[/QUOTE]Which clubs do you suggest?

Thanks!

I have never payed 150 for an hour without extras. Is 7 - 8 visits a year like I do a tourist? I am not a regular. Sometimes the truth are somewhere inbetween and different for each person.

[QUOTE=McGrath;2225353]I have never payed 150 for an hour without extras. Is 7 - 8 visits a year like I do a tourist? I am not a regular. Sometimes the truth are somewhere inbetween and different for each person.[/QUOTE]Many girls are trying to get 150 Hour including extras. The want you to take the extras. You can still get that 50 E /30 min with the boy so hot girls. You can even get extras with the not so hot girls but I didn't fly over in an uncomfortable flight where I didn't sleep all night and pay $2000 plus for the privledge and have to settle for the not so cute girls. No, I come for the hot ones. If I have to pay 100€ for 30 minutes and it gets all the exteas (win, wink, nod, nod) I'll do it. You can still do 100€ for an hour GFE but I've become spoiled. I want the extras.

I hope you enjoyed / recognized my Monty Python references. I should of said a BJ that I preferred with a finish that I preferred.

I walked away not wanting.

By agreeing to everything the girl wants, I think you're digging your own grave (unless you always want extras). The closest non-tourist club is the Bahamas I think.

[QUOTE=DerAuslander;2225297]My point exactly! Or at least the point I was trying to make. If you are happy to pay over the odds in the Frankfurt area FKKs, why not head to Zurich and FKK Globe instead where the selection of girls is of a very high standard (much higher than Sharks or Oase) and where performance and satisfaction are pretty much guaranteed. Alternatively if you don't want to pay tourist prices, why not head away from the Sharks / Oase tourist factories and head for the other sizable FKKs also in the Hessen area, or go to Dusseldorf, Stuttgart or Munich where tourist rates are not charged (or are much less likely to be charged). The money you save will pay for the rental car.[/QUOTE]I'm not German, I'm not a local, my eyes were often burned by sun on snow in very high altitude, but when you knew what was Sharks casting from end of 2014 to summer 2016, really not same level for looks now, when I drove 1200 kms every week end for Karin, Agnes, Megan. At this time, beauties with high level didn't speak about money, just 50 per 30 mn, with kissing, DATY and BBBJ included. BBBJ is not a big problem at Sharks or Oase, but pretty and smart girls are a big problem to find. Where is busy with elegant manners Florentina. Ro? Nobody never told about my top class girl on mid June, never speaking about money, smart high level girls don't need to speak about money, only low level girls try to upsell, when they ask extra for kissing, just means they are not able to kiss like a woman. For sure, Globe is another planet for level for looks and level in bed, but I work very hard to find sometimes smart high level girls in Germany, for super GFE without speaking about money, and I m happy because I create a new one for me, for 1 hour rooms for 100 and she really improves for me. But I also look forward enjoying soon Katalina. Ro at Globe. Ex Hessen, elegant, super GFE, lovely, so welcoming for me when she is a Globe busy superstar.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2225358]Many girls are trying to get 150 Hour including extras. The want you to take the extras. You can still get that 50 E /30 min with the boy so hot girls. You can even get extras with the not so hot girls but I didn't fly over in an uncomfortable flight where I didn't sleep all night and pay $2000 plus for the privledge and have to settle for the not so cute girls. No, I come for the hot ones. If I have to pay 100 for 30 minutes and it gets all the exteas (win, wink, nod, nod) I'll do it. You can still do 100 for an hour GFE but I've become spoiled. I want the extras.

I hope you enjoyed / recognized my Monty Python references. I should of said a BJ that I preferred with a finish that I preferred.

I walked away not wanting.[/QUOTE]It's actually a very simple thing. Like in any other business, these girls will try to get even 1000 for 1 hour (still maybe with limited service) if there is anyone to pay. If folks like you and some others pay more, eventually that would be the standard rate. Where will you draw a line that makes you start to negotiate? So IMHO, be careful what you get into by not negotiatingting (and ready to walk away) as an efficient customer. Else, soon you will be paying the similar high rates as in Canada, Australia, USA etc.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2225174]Yes, many of the Sharks girls have missing teeth and show signs of scurvy and other maritime diseases. Meanwhile Globe girls have two sets of tits and you can fuck doggie and play with the tits on their back at the same time. If you are from the US they will also do your taxes. Brought the 1040 long form last April and one girl found a deduction that my accountant missed that saved me an extra 500 $ so their little higher cost averages out over the long haul.[/QUOTE]I think that you are right, I also noticed that a significant amount of the girls have one or more teeth missing, also when you see some of them near the pool you can see how their skin have problems, but still they are beautiful enough for the majority of the mongers.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2225443]It's actually a very simple thing. Like in any other business, these girls will try to get even 1000 for 1 hour (still maybe with limited service) if there is anyone to pay. If folks like you and some others pay more, eventually that would be the standard rate. Where will you draw a line that makes you start to negotiate? .[/QUOTE]Hey Gino. Did you read my report? I take it that you did not. I just said that the good looking girls were trying to get 150 E /1 hour. I didn't say I paid it.

Yes, the more the girls can get the more power to them. Conversely, the more services we can get for less money, the more power to us. When both parties agree on goods and services at a particular rate and both parties are happy than it is win-win.

First night at Sharks, after a previous evening at Mainhattan.

Wow, Sharks is bigger. So many more ladies. Oh. My. The little Captain was very happy with the visuals.

Arrived around 5 pm, normal FKK routine. Vitamin V to start off this time.

Again decide I need to go quickly, establish some bona fides. My strategy is to session early with one of the not necessarily elite girls, pay the 100, then take a break, let word get out that I am reasonable in a room.

Very tall, very blonde Daniella, not sure where from (assuming Ro. At this point I have mostly stopped asking). She said she was at Palace for 2 years, then came to Sharks in the last 6 months. I had said Hi to her as I walked past, but she was just another lovely blonde in a sea of them. Then, while I was sitting down, she stood up and yeet! Long legs, super thin, slash of red on her mouth. Little Captain was interested. I caught her eye, she walked over. We decided 100 euros for DATY, BBJB, and sex. We did the deed, and she was excellent, really skilled, the torpedos went reasonably quickly, all services as advertised. No DFK though, FWIW. DATY was tasty, though she was not super responsive. Paid and washed up.

Sure enough, after about 45 minutes (food and scenery watching), girls begin pursuing me. Looked like the FKK chatter circuit at work. After several short (pointed) conversations, I had a long conversation with a lovely blonde Romanian, named Isgrid (She was smart and funny and pretty and I had no chemistry with her at all. She was upfront that she just wanted someone to chat with at the moment, being bored, and took my eventual 'no' with good spirits. Weird how that happens; I really wish there had been some spark, but the little Captain was not interested. He's a fickle creature.

Many fun conversations followed, especially memorably were a pair of tight-bodied Moldavian. One was taller, bubble butt, lighter hair in a tight bun, so hot that I think she might have broken me. Her friend had jet black hair, was tinier. They offered both -- who knows what it would have cost me? But the Captain, knowing he probably had 1 load out of torpedoes left, was being very choosy. 5 shots in two days at his age is nearing the limit. (not the normal FKK experience, I know).

All night my eyes had kept returning to this one girl, a hot young thing. She was having a great time talking with her girls on the couch, plenty of male traffic to her. Boisterous, happy, laughing. She just exuded sex. She was popular, but did not seem to session that much, which made sense in light of the slow night. The Captain just found her intriguing, so after my long layoff, I went up to her said Hello,. She point blanked me "Do you want to room?" and the Captain said yes. She was super friendly and didn't even mention money until we got a room, which had me nervous. Her name was Ron-something. Just 18, Romanian. High ponytail to die for. Not super thin, not overweight, just right. English is not great, unlike most of the girls. And as she was 18, we did not have a ton to talk about. Who wants to talk?

We agreed on 100 euros for DFK, DATY, BBBJ, and sex. First the BJ, which was great, but as the Captain got his motor running, we switched and I went down on her. She had me go so softly, as she said she was sensitive. So softly I went, slowly, softly, until she was squeezing my head with her thighs. Did she reach the mountain? Who can tell. But the small muscles in her abs sure seemed to think she enjoyed it. Then she put the cover on, got on all fours, and we went to doggie town. The view was great (especially in the mirror-heavy room we were in), so I managed to give a good pounding account of myself, before the Captain fired his last shots. She was excellent. No real cuddle, but that was more me, the Captain was tired. She was a highlight for me.

After that, instead of a walk back to the train, I elected to take a cab. Thing to know, the cabs (at least the one I got) had a big "FKK Sharks" logo on the side- not the most discrete thing to pull up to the hotel in, when there are work colleagues there. I had him stop a block short and let me out. 60 euro cab fare, BTW.

Damage: 265 euros + 60 euro cab fare (plus 8 euro train, but that doesn't count).

Fun / Sexy / Hot quotient: Off the rails. 1 really good session, 1 simply sublime session. Decent meal. Lovely scenery. Can't ask for more for a newcomer.

Random points:

* Grill was better than Mainhattan by a mile.

* loved how big the club was, did get tired of the smoking. No where to go to get away from it, even outside. Good Lord, everyone smokes. All the time.

Finally, there was an incandescent tall blonde there, arrived fairly late. Super short blonde hair in a wedge cut, tight body; only girls with a wedge / pixie cut int he club. She was so hot the Captain thought about a third go before coming to terms with reality. I don't know who she is, but if I go back she is first on the list.

Sharks man, Sharks is Candyland.

Of course, now that I am back in the hotel for a while, the RLD is beckoning. But that would be for another thread.

I'm three weeks since mailing my paid membership- do they every get activated? Sigh.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2225358]You can even get extras with the not so hot girls but I didn't fly over in an uncomfortable flight where I didn't sleep all night and pay $2000 plus for the privledge and have to settle for the not so cute girls. No, I come for the hot ones. If I have to pay 100 for 30 minutes and it gets all the exteas (win, wink, nod, nod) I'll do it. You can still do 100 for an hour GFE but I've become spoiled. I want the extras.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately you seem to be perhaps part of the problem. If by wink wink nod nod you mean GFE or BBBJ services this should be standard as part of the hour. In other words if you pay for an hour (for Euro 100) it would be the norm for these services to be included (even in Oase and Sharks). This is a way of getting around (negotiating around) extra payments during a half hour session. In other words go for the hour and get these services included for no extra cost.

If you are after really hot girls and are prepared to pay, I don't understand why you don't head to Globe in Zurich? You seem to be getting ripped off in Sharks or at least charged more than would be the norm. That would really annoy me anyway. I would hate to be played like that.

Unfortunately the real problem with clubs like Oase and Sharks is that management allow the girls to charge what they like or what they can get away with. They dont care what tourists are charged because they probably dont know any better and even if they do, they may not be back for months if at all. Not all clubs are so careless with their customers but this seems to be the way in the bigger Frankfurt clubs.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2225358]I hope you enjoyed / recognized my Monty Python references.[/QUOTE]I understand your reference completely. Although not a Britisher, I am from a neighboring country and of an age (although very young at the time) to have watched this tv show when it was broadcast on the BBC.

[QUOTE=DerAuslander;2225504]Unfortunately you seem to be perhaps part of the problem. If by wink wink nod nod you mean GFE or BBBJ services this should be standard as part of the hour. In other words if you pay for an hour (for Euro 100) it would be the norm for these services to be included (even in Oase and Sharks). This is a way of getting around (negotiating around) extra payments during a half hour session. In other words go for the hour and get these services included for no extra cost.
.[/QUOTE]What about if a hobbyist were to circumvent the law and say. Happen to CIM and the girl swallows (Wink, Wink, Nod, Nod say no more, say no more)? How is that any different than the old days circa 2011,2012? How about prostate massage with a BBJ. Just saying if a guy finds a real goer. ?

A winks as good as a nod to a blind bat.

No. CIM and prostate massage was always extra.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2225488]Hey Gino. Did you read my report? I take it that you did not. I just said that the good looking girls were trying to get 150 E /1 hour. I didn't say I paid it.

Yes, the more the girls can get the more power to them. Conversely, the more services we can get for less money, the more power to us. When both parties agree on goods and services at a particular rate and both parties are happy than it is win-win.[/QUOTE]Oops! Sorry HS, missed that part of your report. My bad, my apology!

Also, if most of the customers reject 100 e / 30 minutes sessions, the rate will go back to what it was before the stupid law. Including all the things that were there in 50 e / 30 minutes sessions. My 2 cents.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2225517]Oops! Sorry HS, missed that part of your report. My bad, my apology!

Also, if most of the customers reject 100 e / 30 minutes sessions, the rate will go back to what it was before the stupid law. Including all the things that were there in 50 e / 30 minutes sessions. My 2 cents.[/QUOTE]Gino. No problem man. And it isn't like I haven't been had before if you know what I mean.

So having ventured from an enjoyable though not successful trip at World, to Oase on Sunday. Today was Sharks day. Sadly business during the day meant not being able to get there mid-afternoon to enjoy the sunshine on a lovely day. My constant "can we hurry please I have another "meeting" to go to this afternoon did not work during my long and boring meeting. I arrived at Sharks at 6 pm. Decent enough LU for a Monday and many of the normal culprits on show. Carla without her pal Ingrid was a little more forceful. Mel (blonde with glasses) looked pretty and Bianca (blonde Ro) with those beautiful eyes was tempting but still carries a little too much curviness for me. Session one with a new girl at Sharks. Cleo. Long brunette hair, silicones but well done and spinner body with several tattoos. The filler lips were a little large. She looked like Carla's sister and I find Carla very attractive but am not mad keen on her service or attitude. Cleo and I head off to the room. She is ex-Globe and boy did it show regarding service. Superb. I've not been to Globe but if the service is always like this I've got to go. She said at Globe customers are regularly asked what the girl's service was like by reception. If the customer so much as says "ok. Nothing special" the girl is told she is having 2 days off work. Such is the determination to force excellent service.

Cleo was a dream. No upsell at all, fabulous skills, lots of DFK and a very clean girl on hygiene but dirty in the room. I offered DATY. She happily accepted. Mistake - she is one of those girls who takes a lifetime no matter what you do. Not to be deterred and determined to get her there we took up 40 minutes of the room (1 hour) on this. Not her fault and several times to her credit she tried to stop and move on. I loved the "sorry but I don't fake orgasms baby". After many positions, we got success. Much to my relief 🤤128079;.

I had a massage booked with Pia (Thai massuese who is amazing) so could not extend and left the room a little frustrated. But entirely my fault. Told her I hoped she'the be free later for "my turn".

Massage was terrific. Shower, back into the bar and no sign of Cleo. Contemplated several other options and was near to going to the room with a pretty blonde (Jovana / Ivana? Who turns out to be Cleo's flatmate and best pal in the club). Blonde, big naturals. Then Cleo arrives. Glass of wine, quick chat and back into the room for another fabulous hour. This girl wants to please and her service is absolutely first class. Adventurous, sexy, skillful. Left the room exhausted and very satisfied.

Anoher great trip to Sharks. Have really enjoyed my visits here this year. Hope this is not the last for 2018 but sadly might be so.

Great reports of World, Oase, and Sharks. Cleo is on the list and so is a visit to Globe.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2225529]Cleo. Long brunette hair, silicones but well done and spinner body with several tattoos. The filler lips were a little large. She looked like Carla's sister and I find Carla very attractive but am not mad keen on her service or attitude. Cleo and I head off to the room. She is ex-Globe and boy did it show regarding service. Superb. I've not been to Globe but if the service is always like this I've got to go. She said at Globe customers are regularly asked what the girl's service was like by reception. If the customer so much as says "ok. Nothing special" the girl is told she is having 2 days off work. Such is the determination to force excellent service.[/QUOTE]

Excellent reports PayForIt, thanks! BTW, you probably still received a watered down version of Globe services from Cleo. If she could survive that "service excellence" requirements in Globe, and in turn make much more money there, very likely she wound't have moved to a cheaper club like Sharks, right? Though there could be other personal reasons, but I highly doubt that from the WG's who travel so far away from family and friends just to make good money. This is exactly what Siri also mentioned before. To see some example of my experiences there, you can check out my couple of reviews there, particularly about the NYE 2018. If you have a car, it's only 3. 5 - 4 hours drive from Sharks to Globe. Man, this got me thinking of my next trip. First Globe to get some solid albeit expensive sessions, then few chill but much lower level sessions in Sharks and just in case any new gem I find, and then finish the trip with an awesome day / night in Globe.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2225544]Excellent reports PayForIt, thanks! BTW, you probably still received a watered down version of Globe services from Cleo. If she could survive that "service excellence" requirements in Globe, and in turn make much more money there, very likely she wound't have moved to a cheaper club like Sharks, right? Though there could be other personal reasons, but I highly doubt that from the WG's who travel so far away from family and friends just to make good money. [/QUOTE]To be fair to Cleo when I asked why she left she said she had a big bust up with the Manager because of her rota. She works non-stop for 3 weeks then returns home to Romania. Most girls only travel home every few months. Maybe it was an excuse. I'll never know, but she was very complimentary about the club and the service an if this was watered down service I've got to go there as she could not have done anything more to please me.

Maybe she just couldn't cope with the rules of the club.

Does anyone know when Elif and Amalia are back from vacation at the Sharks?

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2225661]To be fair to Cleo when I asked why she left she said she had a big bust up with the Manager because of her rota. She works non-stop for 3 weeks then returns home to Romania. Most girls only travel home every few months. Maybe it was an excuse. I'll never know, but she was very complimentary about the club and the service an if this was watered down service I've got to go there as she could not have done anything more to please me.[/QUOTE]80 percent of the girls have a pimp or a BF, may be it is better to start with that status before trying to understand why a girl is doing that or that.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2225544]Excellent reports PayForIt, thanks! BTW, you probably still received a watered down version of Globe services from Cleo. If she could survive that "service excellence" requirements in Globe, and in turn make much more money there, very likely she wound't have moved to a cheaper club like Sharks, right? Though there could be other personal reasons, but I highly doubt that from the WG's who travel so far away from family and friends just to make good money. This is exactly what Siri also mentioned before. To see some example of my experiences there, you can check out my couple of reviews there, particularly about the NYE 2018. If you have a car, it's only 3. 5 - 4 hours drive from Sharks to Globe. Man, this got me thinking of my next trip. First Globe to get some solid albeit expensive sessions, then few chill but much lower level sessions in Sharks and just in case any new gem I find, and then finish the trip with an awesome day / night in Globe.[/QUOTE]So many girls claim to come from Globe, so many lies in this business. Pretty brunette with long black hair, ex Bea. Ro LR and GT, now at Sharks because couldn't get good business at LR or GT because of her very average level for sex, but claimed to come from Globe. I think her 3 first clients at Globe would have run to desk to complain about her services and she would have been kicked off at the end of her first day. She stays close to stairs and the pole.

Girls who make good business at Globe, will make about 7000 € per week, and don't plan to return to Germany. Even a bit difficult business for her because of competition with high level superstars, Megan never returned since April 2017. Aurelia, Jessika silicon, Katalina of course, also never returned.

All my best girls in Germany never claimed to come from Globe.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2225722]Maybe she just couldn't cope with the rules of the club.[/QUOTE]I don't think that is correct. She had over 2 years at the club and she is clearly upset at leaving. She told me she contemplated ringing the manager to promise to work more weeks as she could not believe how cheap the rooms are at Sharks and she has to work twice as hard to make less money. I doubt she will be at Sharks long. I don't care as she gave me her mobile and I shall definitely see her again either at Sharks or privately. Her service was truly the best I've had at any FKK.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2225661]To be fair to Cleo when I asked why she left she said she had a big bust up with the Manager because of her rota. She works non-stop for 3 weeks then returns home to Romania. Most girls only travel home every few months. Maybe it was an excuse. I'll never know, but she was very complimentary about the club and the service an if this was watered down service I've got to go there as she could not have done anything more to please me.[/QUOTE]Globe usual schedule for girls is 3 weeks working, then at least 2 weeks off to refresh, then new tour. Girls have to work for Christmas or Sylvester.

Ex Steffi Globe, small, turning from blond to brown hair now, new silicon, few tattoos, was a great GFE at Globe, but had to leave asked by Globe management, I saw her at Sharks, still lovely, good dancer. Was not full busy at Globe.

PayForIt,

Great reports. Really enjoyed reading them.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2225023]Shark Week Day 2.[/QUOTE]Great reporting HS. Waiting for more (week cannot end in 2 days). Planning to visit Sharks in second week of October and started doing my homework. Glad to see that you are back and having a good time. I remember last when I visited Sharks in March, I saw a report from you for the same day that I was there.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2225544]Excellent reports PayForIt, thanks! BTW, you probably still received a watered down version of Globe services from Cleo. If she could survive that "service excellence" requirements in Globe, and in turn make much more money there, very likely she wound't have moved to a cheaper club like Sharks, right? Though there could be other personal reasons, but I highly doubt that from the WG's who travel so far away from family and friends just to make good money. This is exactly what Siri also mentioned before. To see some example of my experiences there, you can check out my couple of reviews there, particularly about the NYE 2018. If you have a car, it's only 3. 5 - 4 hours drive from Sharks to Globe. Man, this got me thinking of my next trip. First Globe to get some solid albeit expensive sessions, then few chill but much lower level sessions in Sharks and just in case any new gem I find, and then finish the trip with an awesome day / night in Globe.[/QUOTE]Globe is not respecting the girls, they have to work 12 hours a day, do anal with all the customers, the girls are facing big pressure there, reason why so many are taking drugs most of the girls can t deal with all this and are just leaving after several days. For me no need to go there, you will get the same things in Shark, pussy are the same everywhere.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2225902]All my best girls in Germany never claimed to come from Globe.[/QUOTE]Probably Romanian girls are more smart in telling fairy tales compared to the German ones. Yesterday, Tuesday, I was in Sharks up from 7 pm. Sitting some minutes in the outside area I followed the monologue of a Romanian girl who I don't know (really not a stunner neither from the front nor from the backside view) telling the guy that she was lucky in the past to participate in a round of rich Arabs who spent 150,000 bucks for champagne (believe it or not) - thus she argued to refuse making rooms for small money. It was one of these days when number of girls seem to be higher than that of guys. Even the Asian tourists weren't an easy catch.

I got once more a perfect session (30 minutes) with Dali from Bulgaria - we know each other since four years and she is one of my safe bets in Sharks. Great blowjob kneeling in front of me on the floor close to the Mirror covering the wall, yeaah.

[QUOTE=DerAuslander;2225504]Unfortunately you seem to be perhaps part of the problem. If by wink wink nod nod you mean GFE or BBBJ services this should be standard as part of the hour. In other words if you pay for an hour (for Euro 100) it would be the norm for these services to be included (even in Oase and Sharks). This is a way of getting around (negotiating around) extra payments during a half hour session. In other words go for the hour and get these services included for no extra cost.

If you are after really hot girls and are prepared to pay, I don't understand why you don't head to Globe in Zurich? You seem to be getting ripped off in Sharks or at least charged more than would be the norm. That would really annoy me anyway. I would hate to be played like that.

Unfortunately the real problem with clubs like Oase and Sharks is that management allow the girls to charge what they like or what they can get away with. They dont care what tourists are charged because they probably dont know any better and even if they do, they may not be back for months if at all. Not all clubs are so careless with their customers but this seems to be the way in the bigger Frankfurt clubs..[/QUOTE]So 50 is for 30 mins for standard sex (without BBBJ and GFE)? 100 f1 hour is for full service including everything?

[QUOTE=Hugo100;2225897]Does anyone know when Elif and Amalia are back from vacation at the Sharks?[/QUOTE]I've heard Amalia has quit the business, but I saw Elif at the end of August at Sharks. She had the usual angry / serious face as if she didn't want any business.

Rock.

[QUOTE=Vabie;2226099]So 50 is for 30 mins for standard sex (without BBBJ and GFE)? 100 f1 hour is for full service including everything?[/QUOTE]Limited experience on my end, but from what I encountered and through convos with other punters, YMMV rule is always in play. On a day where I did 5 sessions, I'd say 2-3 of them were GFE, with one being one of the best GFE I've had. All provided BBBJ and all were 50 euro sessions.

[QUOTE=Vabie;2226099]So 50 is for 30 mins for standard sex (without BBBJ and GFE)? 100 f1 hour is for full service including everything?[/QUOTE]Here are the standard rates in Sharks, Oase, World and most German FKKs (except for Artemis in Berlin where it's 60 e for 30 minutes for the same service listed below, and the RTC or AO clubs where rates are 30-40% cheaper):

50 e for 30 minutes including BBBJ, DFK, DATY, FIV, sex in public etc etc all. Only extras are CIM for 50 e (some will swallow as well with this), and Anal for 100 e. Every additional 30 minutes is 50 e. Please note that these rates are irrespective of how beautiful / ugly or nice / bad personality the girl is.

For customers who take the easy route without negotiating (same in any business for that matter), there is no standard rate. These WG's takes whatever more they can, again same in most other businesses.

I have been able to get all day (10-12 hours, plus sometimes even going to a late night disco / house music club after the FKK closed, then some fun, sleep and breakfast at my hotel (or her hotel) before dropping her back to the club (or her home or hotel) for 600-700 e if we really liked each other. In those cases, her service included a lot more than the above and / or even free dates outside later LOL.

Hope this helps you!

[QUOTE=Tedesco;2226089]Probably Romanian girls are more smart in telling fairy tales compared to the German ones. Yesterday, Tuesday, I was in Sharks up from 7 pm. Sitting some minutes in the outside area I followed the monologue of a Romanian girl who I don't know (really not a stunner neither from the front nor from the backside view) telling the guy that she was lucky in the past to participate in a round of rich Arabs who spent 150,000 bucks for champagne (believe it or not) - thus she argued to refuse making rooms for small money. It was one of these days when number of girls seem to be higher than that of guys. Even the Asian tourists weren't an easy catch.

I got once more a perfect session (30 minutes) with Dali from Bulgaria - we know each other since four years and she is one of my safe bets in Sharks. Great blowjob kneeling in front of me on the floor close to the Mirror covering the wall, yeaah.[/QUOTE]Yes, some girls prefer to work for everything for only 50, rather than Globe business or champagne party. Orgasmus are more important for them than money.

FKK land is really not land of cleverness, but bullshit land. Only facts are reliable for me.

I haven't seen Madalina for a long time and lately there are few reports about her. Does anybody knows if she has stopped completely?

[QUOTE=Gino02;2226311].......................I have been able to get all day (10-12 hours, plus sometimes even going to a late night disco / house music club after the FKK closed, then some fun, sleep and breakfast at my hotel (or her hotel) before dropping her back to the club (or her home or hotel) for 600-700 e if we really liked each other. In those cases, her service included a lot more than the above and / or even free dates outside later LOL........[/QUOTE]Mongers who do this get the best out of the girls.

I have taken girls outside the club as well if we really hit it off. They very much like this I think because they make similar money and it allows them to get out of the club. I'm sure it gets monotonous working in the club day after day.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2226354]Mongers who do this get the best out of the girls.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RockyV;2226195]I've heard Amalia has quit the business, but I saw Elif at the end of August at Sharks. She had the usual angry / serious face as if she didn't want any business.

Rock.[/QUOTE]It's the standard cycle, isn't it? The less mature girls come in, are thrilled with all the male attention and easy money and are really happy in their early days.

As time goes on, the hedonic treadmill sets in: They get used to the easy money and the male attention and want more.

They forget that the men are on a hedonic treadmill too: They get used to her, and give her less male attention and less money. And so they get angry or bitter.

If they stay, they're more cynical. This is a job, men are all alike. But at least most of them are professional.

If they don't get cynical, then they go.

[QUOTE=PuntTheWorld2;2226292]Limited experience on my end, but from what I encountered and through convos with other punters, YMMV rule is always in play. On a day where I did 5 sessions, I'd say 2-3 of them were GFE, with one being one of the best GFE I've had. All provided BBBJ and all were 50 euro sessions.[/QUOTE]Hi,

Who was the best GFE you've ever had? Do they still work in the club?

I was in last Monday night, and one girl who interested me was a tall blonde, obviously not her natural color, hair cut very short. Super short, wedge cut. I just missed her one time, and then got distracted with other things. I saw her again in my way out, she was just so hot.

Anyone have any idea who she is? Service level, etc?

[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2226368]It's the standard cycle, isn't it? The less mature girls come in, are thrilled with all the male attention and easy money and are really happy in their early days.

As time goes on, the hedonic treadmill sets in: They get used to the easy money and the male attention and want more.

They forget that the men are on a hedonic treadmill too: They get used to her, and give her less male attention and less money. And so they get angry or bitter.

If they stay, they're more cynical. This is a job, men are all alike. But at least most of them are professional.

If they don't get cynical, then they go.[/QUOTE]Beautifully described! 100% true! So sad it has to be this way though.

Rock.

[QUOTE=Hugo100;2225897]Does anyone know when Elif and Amalia are back from vacation at the Sharks?[/QUOTE]Both Elif and Amalia are back at Sharks!

[QUOTE=Gino02;2226311]:

50 e for 30 minutes including BBBJ, DFK, DATY, FIV, sex in public etc etc all. Only extras are CIM for 50 e (some will swallow as well with this), and Anal for 100 e. Every additional 30 minutes is 50 e. Please note that these rates are irrespective of how beautiful / ugly or nice / bad personality the girl is.

For customers who take the easy route without negotiating (same in any business for that matter), there is no standard rate. These WG's takes whatever more they can, again same in most other businesses.
[/QUOTE]This is true in general. However, try to get a top girl in the club to settle for a 30 minute 50 E session when the club is hopping and there is a wait for rooms especially if you want DFK and a BBBJ. So there is some YMMV.

I think another extra (correct me if I have misinterpreted this) is the prostate massage which is another up-charge. Also, in the NRW region the pricing structure is a little different as some extras are cheaper.

I have noticed that some girls are holding back the DFK or the BJ that I like at the 50 Euro/30 minute rate. Some are willing to give this but usually not the busy girls at peak times. For me, this is a fact! So here is my strategy: If there is a girl that I want to do I will give her 100 Euros for 30 minutes. This includes a BJ that I like with a finish that I like with DFK and other extras like prostate massage if I so desire. The girl is there to sell services. I like the extra services. I make her day when I buy the extra services. If she performs the services with gusto than we are both happy and she is 100 E richer and I am on my way to stalk the next notch in my belt.

For example, I had a great 1-hour GFE session with a Sharks top girl at 5:45 PM last Saturday. She gave me two SOG (that's shots on goal for non-Canadians) with DFK and a BJ I like but not the finish I prefer for 100 E for the hour. It was a long hour and it was GFE. However, I bagged this Shark and I want to be off to see the next one as there is too much cuddling and down-time between SOGs and the 2nd SOG becomes more like work. This particular girl was good and didn't try to sell an extra service such as a finish that I like. However, this is happening during other 100 E, 1-hour GFE dates. One girl was giving me an oil boob massage (Russian) and she said "Take care" If I cum it's an extra 30 E. So why not just take the 100 E and get the package deal for a half hour? Of course this is personal preference but I have done a few 2-hour dates and there was a lot of cuddling and half-assed back massages and I fell asleep once while paying the girl who knows how much...My masseuse back home charges me 50 USD for an hour of deep tissue massage on a massage table. Cuddling is nice once in awhile but I would rather stalk the next girl.

This is all personal preference and these are my feelings at the moment based on my experience. I would rather have all the services and a shorter time as opposed to a longer GFE session without some of the extras. I am willing to pay the same rate which was standard when I made my first visit to the club back in 2010 for a 30 minute session with everything (accept anal).

I just wanted to clarify this for the rest of the board.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2226311]:
I have been able to get all day (10-12 hours, plus sometimes even going to a late night disco / house music club after the FKK closed, then some fun, sleep and breakfast at my hotel (or her hotel) before dropping her back to the club (or her home or hotel) for 600-700 e if we really liked each other. In those cases, her service included a lot more than the above and / or even free dates outside later LOL.
[/QUOTE]Gino. You're a better man than I am because I don't have 600-700 E worth of cum in me and at my age this can be pretty close to torture. I have done the TDL thing only a couple of times in other countries and did not have to pay for it. There are ups and downs. I would rather spread my seed around to different girls but to each his own.

[QUOTE=Austin28;2226010]Great reporting HS. Waiting for more (week cannot end in 2 days). Planning to visit Sharks in second week of October and started doing my homework. Glad to see that you are back and having a good time. I remember last when I visited Sharks in March, I saw a report from you for the same day that I was there.[/QUOTE]Thanks Austin. I remember your reports as well. Great to hear from you.

I am heading back this weekend. Shark Week continues most probably Friday evening as I plan to throw myself in the Shark tank. In fact, I think this time my approach may be a little different. I am going to throw myself into the shark tank. I think I will walk in and get the 4-girls that are always hounding me for a session and I am always telling them "Not right now. I'm a little tired. Maybe later. " I have never went to the room with. I will sit them in four chairs and get them to pitch me their services and I will partner with the lucky shark just like on the TV show. Sort of a reverse Shark Tank. I will round up Mya, Melanie, Ada, Scarlet and get them in a semi circle and tell them "Sharks. For 50 Euros, I will let you see my new Orgasmatron. " and see who will do the most for the money. Maybe one shark will offer to partner with another shark just like the show.

Saturday I may hit a smaller club with a friend I met in Sharks last weekend. I figure I have to always try something new once in awhile. Bad or good, it is always a reality check.

[QUOTE=Vabie;2226099]So 50 is for 30 mins for standard sex (without BBBJ and GFE)? 100 f1 hour is for full service including everything?[/QUOTE]50 e sessions are mostly with BBBJ and GFE in my case. I always try to spend few time talking with beauties just to find a good chemistry in the room. I am not big fan of extras and long times because one round is quite enough for me.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2226311]Here are the standard rates in Sharks, Oase, World and most German FKKs (except for Artemis in Berlin where it's 60 e for 30 minutes for the same service listed below, and the RTC or AO clubs where rates are 30-40% cheaper):

50 e for 30 minutes including BBBJ, DFK, DATY, FIV, sex in public etc etc all. Only extras are CIM for 50 e (some will swallow as well with this), and Anal for 100 e. Every additional 30 minutes is 50 e. Please note that these rates are irrespective of how beautiful / ugly or nice / bad personality the girl is.

For customers who take the easy route without negotiating (same in any business for that matter), there is no standard rate. These WG's takes whatever more they can, again same in most other businesses.

I have been able to get all day (10-12 hours, plus sometimes even going to a late night disco / house music club after the FKK closed, then some fun, sleep and breakfast at my hotel (or her hotel) before dropping her back to the club (or her home or hotel) for 600-700 e if we really liked each other. In those cases, her service included a lot more than the above and / or even free dates outside later LOL.

Hope this helps you![/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. I just afraid I will be fooled by them. I am Asian and in their mind, tourist's money is easy to earn. Do some research in advance is quite necessary for me.

[QUOTE=TeaInTheSun;2226404]50 e sessions are mostly with BBBJ and GFE in my case. I always try to spend few time talking with beauties just to find a good chemistry in the room. I am not big fan of extras and long times because one round is quite enough for me.[/QUOTE]Agree with you. So before go to room, a sweet social talk is something have to do. To check if the girl like you and her attitude to you. Do you negotiate the price before get in to the room?

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2226399]This is true in general. However, try to get a top girl in the club to settle for a 30 minute 50 E session when the club is hopping and there is a wait for rooms especially if you want DFK and a BBBJ. So there is some YMMV.

I think another extra (correct me if I have misinterpreted this) is the prostate massage which is another up-charge. Also, in the NRW region the pricing structure is a little different as some extras are cheaper.

I have noticed that some girls are holding back the DFK or the BJ that I like at the 50 Euro/30 minute rate. Some are willing to give this but usually not the busy girls at peak times. For me, this is a fact! So here is my strategy: If there is a girl that I want to do I will give her 100 Euros for 30 minutes. This includes a BJ that I like with a finish that I like with DFK and other extras like prostate massage if I so desire. The girl is there to sell services. I like the extra services. I make her day when I buy the extra services. If she performs the services with gusto than we are both happy and she is 100 E richer and I am on my way to stalk the next notch in my belt..[/QUOTE]Thanks for explaining the rules. I got a question that do you ask the price before get into room? I am Asian and obviously they will take me as a tourist. Maybe I can try to make them believe I am a international student nearby. Back to my question, If I ask the price and service, it shows that I am new in brother they might upsell themselves? If I don't ask, I am afraid they might charge me a extremely high price in the end or ask for more money when I ask them to do somethings like BBBJ and DFK which should be included in 50 e in your cases.

BTW, you got 100 e 1 hour for everything? That is awesome. Some top girls are only will to do 30 min 100 e for full service.

Vabie, thank you. If you stick to your negotiating position about the standard rates but be nice, respectful and polite to these girls, you will see that many nice girls will respond to you positively. The sharky type girls will immediately reject you and may even call you cheapskate, but you don't care about them anyway even if some look like a supermodel optifuck, right? I'm a half-Asian tourist too, and since I started following these simple way, started getting amazing results!

Even if a girl is new to me, I never ask (neither before going to the room, nor in the room) for rates as I already know what the standard rates are. If she asks what do I like or want in the room (which is very common), I respond "the usual good time, hope you are too?" The nice girls understand and agree. Sharky girls then start giving their inflated extras prices or start listing out their restrictions, at which point I politely say "let me think about it a bit then" and that's usually the end of that discussion. Of course the girls who know and like me, they don't ask what I want or like in the room, and the known sharky girls avoid me LOL.

I think if majority of the customers do the normal customer like negotiations to get the standard rates, it will not take too long for the sharky girls either to quit or to change their business practice with good customer service at the standard rates. They will make more money as well in the process. After all this is an independent contractors' service industry, it should function like one to stay open and make money.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2226311]Here are the standard rates in Sharks, Oase, World and most German FKKs (except for Artemis in Berlin where it's 60 e for 30 minutes for the same service listed below, and the RTC or AO clubs where rates are 30-40% cheaper):

50 e for 30 minutes including BBBJ, DFK, DATY, FIV, sex in public etc etc all. Only extras are CIM for 50 e (some will swallow as well with this), and Anal for 100 e. Every additional 30 minutes is 50 e. Please note that these rates are irrespective of how beautiful / ugly or nice / bad personality the girl is.

For customers who take the easy route without negotiating (same in any business for that matter), there is no standard rate. These WG's takes whatever more they can, again same in most other businesses.

I have been able to get all day (10-12 hours, plus sometimes even going to a late night disco / house music club after the FKK closed, then some fun, sleep and breakfast at my hotel (or her hotel) before dropping her back to the club (or her home or hotel) for 600-700 e if we really liked each other. In those cases, her service included a lot more than the above and / or even free dates outside later LOL.

Hope this helps you![/QUOTE]You should read the new law and so you will see that the girls have the right to apply the prices they want, I know girls in Shark who are asking 500 or even 1000 for anal. I never negotiate.

Something, 50 euro for 30 minutes and multiple of this, I don't take any extra just because anal can be too dirty and smelly for me and CIM is not my cup of tee.

[QUOTE=Vabie;2226443]Agree with you. So before go to room, a sweet social talk is something have to do. To check if the girl like you and her attitude to you. Do you negotiate the price before get in to the room?[/QUOTE]If one of them is a new girl for me, I don't talk to much about money before room but if the lady say me something and I really want to spend time with her, let's try half hour to know each other, I say.

[QUOTE=SpiritWalker;2226352]I haven't seen Madalina for a long time and lately there are few reports about her. Does anybody knows if she has stopped completely?[/QUOTE]Also last year she took a break of at least 2-3 months. Don't woryy, she comes back.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2226399]This is true in general. However, try to get a top girl in the club to settle for a 30 minute 50 E session when the club is hopping and there is a wait for rooms especially if you want DFK and a BBBJ. So there is some YMMV.

I think another extra (correct me if I have misinterpreted this) is the prostate massage which is another up-charge. Also, in the NRW region the pricing structure is a little different as some extras are cheaper.

I have noticed that some girls are holding back the DFK or the BJ that I like at the 50 Euro/30 minute rate. Some are willing to give this but usually not the busy girls at peak times. For me, this is a fact! So here is my strategy: If there is a girl that I want to do I will give her 100 Euros for 30 minutes. This includes a BJ that I like with a finish that I like with DFK and other extras like prostate massage if I so desire. The girl is there to sell services. I like the extra services. I make her day when I buy the extra services. If she performs the services with gusto than we are both happy and she is 100 E richer and I am on my way to stalk the next notch in my belt..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gino02;2226461]Vabie, thank you. If you stick to your negotiating position about the standard rates but be nice, respectful and polite to these girls, you will see that many nice girls will respond to you positively. The sharky type girls will immediately reject you and may even call you cheapskate, but you don't care about them anyway even if some look like a supermodel optifuck, right? I'm a half-Asian tourist too, and since I started following these simple way, started getting amazing results!

Even if a girl is new to me, I never ask (neither before going to the room, nor in the room) for rates as I already know what the standard rates are. If she asks what do I like or want in the room (which is very common), I respond "the usual good time, hope you are too?" The nice girls understand and agree. Sharky girls then start giving their inflated extras prices or start listing out their restrictions, at which point I politely say "let me think about it a bit then" and that's usually the end of that discussion. Of course the girls who know and like me, they don't ask what I want or like in the room, and the known sharky girls avoid me LOL..[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot. Learning a lot from you answer. Hope to communicate more experiences in person someday.

[QUOTE=Vabie;2226448]Thanks for explaining the rules. I got a question that do you ask the price before get into room? I am Asian and obviously they will take me as a tourist. Maybe I can try to make them believe I am a international student nearby. Back to my question, If I ask the price and service, it shows that I am new in brother they might upsell themselves? If I don't ask, I am afraid they might charge me a extremely high price in the end or ask for more money when I ask them to do somethings like BBBJ and DFK which should be included in 50 e in your cases.

BTW, you got 100 e 1 hour for everything? That is awesome. Some top girls are only will to do 30 min 100 e for full service.[/QUOTE]That depends what everything is. GFE? Yes.

I do the negotiating outside of the room but the girl that I described that gave me 100 USD for GFE and two SOGs said when I asked a question about a BJ that I like that she couldn't answer that and we could talk about it in the room and something like I could wait and see. I really wanted to see her so I went but normally I would walk. However, she was awesome (read my review Shark's Week Day 1).

I think you are going to have to negotiate a little harder and say "I know the rates. I am willing to pay the going rate. " If a girl lies to you, don't be a fool and pay her for a shitty session. Go with her to the manager. I would like to say I practice what I preach but I paid two girls a few years ago for a shitty 3-sum and I should of went to the manager of Oase. I complained later but it was too late. Don't be like me last year. Be like me 2011 when a girl dragged me off to a room gave me a good session but then tried to get an extra 50 E saying I went over time. I said let's go to the manager and walked to the front of World. I turned around and she disappeared.

Stick to your guns a bit and find another girl. At the same time, I know that you don't live here and go to the FKK every day so I don't think you want to go out front with your friends and start a fire in a barrel, paint signs, and set up a picket line like you are on strike. Have a good time. Pay for the extra but get it.

Hi guys,

Almost one week passed from my visit to Sharks, but I'm dreaming every night and seeing these amazing girls walking in front of me. LO. It hanged me and I feel I need to get back soon to visit the place. What girls would you recommend the best ones to go with?

Arrived at 11 am, still many girls there but few man, until 8 PM probably 2 times more girls than man. Girls were aggressive all the day hunting potential mongers. All the so called stars were there but not busy at all or very short rooms. Around 5 PM I was approached by a German curvy blond girl probably in the 35 YO but playing the rule of a 20 YO girl, she asked me if I want to go to the room, I declined politely but she continue to harass me until I told her that she was to professional for me and than she told me in German that I was a ass whole, I reply to her in German that probably she is wrong and that for 100 euros every one can fuck her ass, she was quite surprised that I can speak perfectly German and tried a kind of apologize saying the business was so bad, too many girls so enough man. And than it is not my fault. Conclusion great LU, few mongers but too much stress coming from hungry girls and weak management. Food also not at the right level.

[QUOTE=Lover28X;2226785]Hi guys,

Almost one week passed from my visit to Sharks, but I'm dreaming every night and seeing these amazing girls walking in front of me. LO. It hanged me and I feel I need to get back soon to visit the place. What girls would you recommend the best ones to go with?[/QUOTE]Everyone has different taste. Come back and go with your feeling. Have fun!

[QUOTE=Lover28X;2226785]Hi guys,

Almost one week passed from my visit to Sharks, but I'm dreaming every night and seeing these amazing girls walking in front of me. LO. It hanged me and I feel I need to get back soon to visit the place. What girls would you recommend the best ones to go with?[/QUOTE]First sign of getting addict, chemistry between people is the key for a great session, nobody can decide for you.

Does anyone know Losa / Rosa is still in Sharks? She's a blonde, chubby girl from Romania.

She used to sit at the bar near the washroom side.

My first visit to Sharks FKK was a very pleasant experience. Arrived at Frankfurt airport in the afternoon and took the non-stop bus to Darmstad from pier number 14. The cost was Euro 9. 50 and took about 40 minutes to the main train station of Darmstad and then it was a taxi ride of Euro 10 hotel Contel. I found out that there is another bus line 751 that stops on the way and reaches Darmstad in about 60 minutes. But, the price is only Euro 4. 50 and it stops right in front of Hotel Contal. From the hotel it is about 10 minutes' walk to the Sharks club.

I went to the club at 6 pm and Inside there were more than a 100 girls, mostly full naked and rest half naked. Almost all had good bodies. The outdoor barbeque was great. It was a new experience for me to see stark naked beautiful girls walking around in broad daylight.

I had 3 sessions of one hour costing Euro 100 each. All three girls were Romanians. They could speak English and very friendly. In between, I had a one hour massage costing Euro 60 from a Thai masseur. It was very good.

Me and my new buddy Simon 2001 just closed Sharks! These are great days we're living lads! Great days!

What a shit start of the day. First of all, flying sucks and why do German's have so many fucking rules? I rented a car at the Frankfurt airport and I think the closing on my house took less time and was more straight forward. I fought rush hour traffic to drive to Sharks only to discover I forgot my wallet in Frankfurt and I had to return. Was it worth it?

Hell yes! I love Sharks! But who can afford this long term?

I returned specifically to Sharks because I wanted to partake in Dieter's hourly sauna treatments. The strategy was to not to session until I took a few sauna treatments and then I would make some lucky girl's day by letting her feel my smooth skin. This lasted until I got 3/4's of the way back to the Sauna. I ran into Anastasia. I have a history with her. She once gave me a special price on anal. I was chastised for mentioning this on the board and told the girls would gang up on her like the mafia. I noticed she was bearing no scars and she seemed to have all her digits. Anyway, Her English is very good. She's really mastered the phrase "let's go to the room. ".

Session #1 Anastasia 30 Minute with anal 150 Euro. She gives a BJ that I like and some kissing but man she has this pretty pink hole on a beautiful ass. There is something about her dimples and smile that and naughty giggling that I find engaging. I fucked her anal in 3 or four positions and she said look feel and see how your dick is going in my ass but I finished in her other hole.

Now that I got that out of the way, I enjoyed Dieter's Sauna program starting with the "Welcome to Hell" the superhot treatment with menthol I believe and music by ZZ-Top the girl has got legs. I noticed sitting on the top deck during that treatment was a 5'1" brunette with long curly hair. She could stand the heat better than the men. I thought she was part of some freaky couple that liked to attend FKKs...however, the guy that I thought she was with went running out of the sauna and she remained. She was just a Shark WG named Joanna. Joanna turned out to be an incredible pole dancer as well and a really cool 30 something spinner (more on Joanna later). Between Saunas, I would meet girls. Here are the following girls I spoke with:

Venus 5'1" tiny RO with almond eyes.

Daria My GF from last March the one that made me walk in the rain (see March report).

Mya got her mixed up with Daria for a second. Man does she have a firm butt.

Aphrodite Sexy thin A cup RO with these sunken-in cheeks that look real cool. I remembered her name which impressed her and then I asked her why she wasn't busy. This pissed her off. I don't think she likes me. I remember she was a 30 min 100 E girl.

Karine the real tiny spinner that sits at the front of the bar. She weighs about 95 lbs, 5' nothing with huge lashes and sexy putty lips. She always looks at me like she is looking right through me. You know, I think she likes me less than Aphrodite likes me. I will say that she was busy and guys would go off to the room with her without even a conversation. I ran down some fat German guy that just paid her to ask how he liked her and he gave me the OK sign. So, she must not me too bad?

Olympia. Now I know she doesn't like me. She is the dick twister that climbs all over you when you are lounging outside the sauna and starts to fondle you only to twist your dick when you say you are not ready for the room. She confessed: She used to call herself Angelina. She has eyes like Cleopatra with all that black eye shadow. I wouldn't mind doing her but how do you settle on a girl here?

Angelina the short little Colombiana with the big butt and Indian influence in her cheeks, brown eyes and skin with long black hair. I did her last week. She came up to me several times to talk. I really like her.

Ada Finally stopped asking me. Not bad but again, she is just another average run-of-the mill girl here. Why not move to a small venue and she would be busy all the time? Same for Monica and Melanie and Venus....

Alexis Brunette, German girl that announced that she is a 100 E /30 minute girl. "Next," I said.

Mischa she was sitting on the lounge chairs next to another RO (forget her name) and I thought she was reading her palm. She wouldn't do a 30 minute 100 E session with a BJ I like with the Finish I like. Only GFE. I like her look and told her to come back when she will do this and she said she will never do this. She wants 150 E /30 minutes with a finish that I like and is quite proud of herself. She explained that they have steps there. I took it to mean tiers.

Scarlet A natural looking brunette who is almost as attractive as Mischa. She will do a 100 E GFE hour and told me if I don't come back to her I'm a pussy. I did come back when I was ready and she left.

Suzanna from Macadonia - She told me it was her first week at the club. I looked at my notes. She said the same thing last March.

Julia love this brunette.

Black girl from Kenya Very black and quite beautiful. She says that she is a good runner too. I bet I could beat her in a race with her wearing those sexy 6" heels.

Bianca She was sweet innocent looking little mousy Ro standing by the door waiting to get paid and I swear I had her last March but her name was different. When she spoke I saw her teeth which were very small and not too good and I am sure that was her. She was Leona I think from last March. Girls change their names. I remember last year she was a good session but really shy outside the room.

I noticed this tiny brunette girl that could pass for a high schooler. She was quite popular. The damn perverts were booking her solid. Every once in awhile she would pop out of a room. I couldn't get near her. She looked so young and fresh.

The old girl with the big ass is still there. I saw last year her lay a plate over and have the chef fill it with French fries. I think this is starting to catch up with her ass is now about 2-axe handles wide. There is not much variety at the club so, as they say. She fulfills a neisch, just not mine. I think her name is Angelica. Along with Angelica were a few of the older women that you sit and wonder how do they make enough to pay back their entry fee?

There was a tall buxom Czech with blond hair and big tits I was about to session with but she will not DFK for any price. Along the back wall were three German girls. Milly and Alexis and one other. They have a similar look. Very nice.

Gina and Lara were sitting up at the bar and it was a slow night for them. I told Gina I was here to do Dieter's sauna and that I would see her after. I told her about my rotten day and she was very understanding and told me to come back after the sauna and after I had something to eat.

Dolly from Bulgaria nothing special. The Bulgarian girls always seem to be a notch below the RO girls in looks.

Nora kind of ugly with a pocked face but she rubbed her naked body on me.

Christa and Rose'. Like the wine. These are two hot bottle blonds with lots of plastic surgery and they look like porn stars. I told Christa that my mom would be pissed at me if I brought her to Thanksgiving dinner. Rose' had piercing in her nipples. That had to hurt. They are sexy but not the pretty when you look close. They are 100 E /30 minute girls and acted really proud and will not throw in a finish that I like.

Marilyn who is Spanish / Romanian with curly reddish hair and three skulls tattooed over half of her chest. A really nice girl but why the skulls? Why so much ink? She really didn't know and said she wanted a tattoo and kind of liked the picture of the skulls. So why not put it on 2/3 rds of your chest in a background of solid black ink? Nice girl though.

Deanna My friend Simon swears by this one. Not that pretty but nice and she will do a 1 HR GFE date for 100 E and she was really nice to talk to. I didn't have an hour left in me.

Eva Wants 100 for the hour for the 30 minute but an extra 50 E if you finish a BJ in the manner I like to finish so I Passed!

After my last Sauna I walked over to Gina and Lara and I told Gina that I didn't want my favorite girl just sitting there. I said your nights going to get better and took her to the room. As we walked to the stairs I said "What about Lara?" I suggested a 3-sum but she said no and she said she would tell me why in the room. It was really a convoluted reason but it saved me some money and she was wore out anyway. She gave me a great BJ and then proceeded to lay and share some really personal intimate details of her life. That was really nice but. I'm not paying her for that. Why are repeats so often like this? We were both tired and stopped the date and I paid her for the 50 E. She is really a nice girl and my fascination with her is over for now. Enjoy her guys.

I was sitting at the bar and realized the guy next to me was Simon from ISG. I also ran onto some American's from New York and we had a great time flirting with the girls. Angelina from Colombia and a hot bottle blond named Danny who claimed to be from Sweden came by. She from Sweden like I am from Romania. She was wearing a red leather strap outfit that is so impractical. She was hot and I bought her a drink. She proceeded to tell me how she was worth 100 E per hour and an extra 50 E for a finish to the BJ that I like for a total of 150 E. Danny and a friend were each working on Simon and I and lecturing us on customer service. I thought about doing Danny but Jesus I didn't have a 100 E date in me. She said I had the money and both of us have houses paid for so I could afford her. I passed after listening to 30 minutes of this logic. How come she rolled her are's and didn't sound like the Swedish chef. I told her that I have nothing against ROs but she insisted that is where she is from.

We had fun anyway. I called over Anastasia and one of the New Yorkers took her to the room. I said to his friend that when he comes back let's see if he did anal with her. Later the guy came back and said he did it with her for 50 E. I asked Anastasia if this was so and she said that he wouldn't pay more so she wouldn't let him in that hole. So who knows. This is he said she said like #MeToo.

The New Yorker's announced themselves as sex tourists. After closing they were going to the RLD and they said the best girls are there early and no entry fee. Today they will do Oase. The New Yorker's had a philosophy: 1. Variety is key so no repeats. 2. Only 30 minute, date for 50 Euro and they don't give a shit about DFK. They were having fun and added to the party atmosphere.

I met Lena a pretty and slim brunette and new to the club. This was her first week. She was going to give me a 30 minute prostrate massage for 50 E but I passed for some reason. There was another skinny RO with a bottle blond wedge cut that was going to give me an hour massage and DFK and BBJ but I passed too. They just weren't hot enough and I wasn't horny enough.

Later, we called Anastasia and after asking me "we go to the room? We go to the room? Every 2nd breath, Simon decided to take her to the room. I'll let him report but this is an example of a girl getting passed around by friends because of word of mouth. She is a little goofy. I sometimes wonder if she is on something. She seemed to forget we went to the room earlier in the evening. Meanwhile, girls like Mischa were still sitting there, too proud to settle for less than 100 $/30 minutes. Is it me? Did these girls peg me for a 100 E date? Don't know.

As Anastasia and Simon were off to the room, I decided I had better move if I was to do one more room before closing. Just then I saw Joanna out of the corner of my eye. It was late and just before closing time but I grabbed her by the hand and I said let's do a 50 E date for 30 minutes but I warned her she was going to have to do most of the work. We went upstairs and she looked for a room with a shower (she was coming out of a session when I grabbed her.) I had a coffee in my hand and I said I should first brush my teeth because I have coffee breath. Joanna grabbed my coffee and took a big slug and she said "There. Now we both have it" and off we went, up the stairs. We were lucky to get a room with mirrors. I told Joanna that I was down to my last 50 E so no need to up-sell. Joanna is good looking and the best pole dancer I have ever seen. She also impressed me in the sauna. I said "wait a second. I want to fuck you in the sauna. " She said it is not allowed so the room with the mirrors will have to do. The mirrors were both good and bad. I got to watch the lovely Joanna but then I also had to look at myself. I'm not in the shape of my life. Joanna did provide outstanding DFK, a BJ that I like and great MPOS. However, she had to get me off by hand. She commented that we went over but I told her from the start I only have 50 E left. I highly recommend this girl. From looks standpoint she is a second tier girl in Sharks but she would be first tier and a place like LR.

We walked down the stairs 20 minutes prior to closing. I have enough time to wait for Simon to finish his date with Anastasia and we have a last Cafe Creme together. The club is always more fun with comrades. I ask if he had anal and Ana told him that he was too big. Maybe that male enhancement surgery I was considering would pay for itself? No more anal upcharging? We chinked our coffee cups together and drank to an eventful day.

I took a shower and said good bye locker 001. I tell the non-English speakers surrounding me "These are great days we're living, lads. Great days. " They all look at me and nod and smile and I am off to the front desk. I owe 12 E for buying a vodka drink for the lovely Danni, the Swede polyglot who spoke English with a RO accent. I give the lady 10 E and a 1 Euro coin and I started to put smaller denominations together and the ***** starts to yell at me that she will not take anything less than a 0. 50 Euro piece. She talks to me like I am scum and certainly not the guy that just dropped 2,500 Euro at the club. I decide I am going to make a point. I told the Nazi that this is legal tender, eh. You take it or I want to see the manager. She said she is the manager. I inform her that I just dropped about 500 Euro in her establishment and that this is no way to talk to a good customer. It was the classic Mexican stand-off. However, I blinked when I saw I only had 11.92 E and this was not the hill I wanted to die on in Germany. I pulled out a 5 E and I give her some more shit and I left a happy man anyway. Fuck her and her poor customer service. A few young men outside the club patted me on the back and said in Basic English "only paper money in Germany. " Than why the fuck mint the coin? Ah well, I was off to my hotel. Can anyone tell me the legal limit for alcohol while driving in Germany? I was sure that one drink was OK but some countries have any detectable limit laws.

All-in-all it was a good night. Even the ungrateful ***** at the end couldn't ruin it. I had breakfast and watched the sun rise and went to bed. I'm FKK'the out. I am getting too old for this.

Post Script: As Danni and Mischa told me, there are tiers in Sharks. Yes, this is not a club for locals to go to. They would be broke. For full service including a BJ I like with a finish I prefer the following price structure seems to be as stated below. They are all trying to drive to that 150E/30 minutes.

1st tier 150/30 minutes.

2nd tier 100 Euros for this.

3rd tier 100 euros /1 hour GFE extra 50 E for a porn star finish.

4th Tier 50 Euros for a GFE 30 minute date.

There is a lot of grey area here and I was able to get the Mila Kunis who I still think is the hottest girl in the club to do a 100 E /30 minute date with a BJ I like and a finish I like but this is work. Misha told me "If you want this go after a not to pretty one or one of the old ones. " These girls are sticking to their tourist pricing. I'm not saying it is right. I'm just saying that this is the way it is.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2227473]........................After my last Sauna I walked over to Gina and Lara and I told Gina that I didn't want my favorite girl just sitting there. I said your nights going to get better and took her to the room. As we walked to the stairs I said "What about Lara?" I suggested a 3-sum but she said no and she said she would tell me why in the room. It was really a convoluted reason but it saved me some money and she was wore out anyway. She gave me a great BJ and then proceeded to lay and share some really personal intimate details of her life. That was really nice but. I'm not paying her for that. Why are repeats so often like this? We were both tired and stopped the date and I paid her for the 50 E. She is really a nice girl and my fascination with her is over for now. Enjoy her guys.............[/QUOTE]Many guys reporting here have stated that they find the German providers to be very cold. I have found the opposite to be the case. With many of them, like Gina, you have to chip through the ice. I have found the German girls to be the warmest and friendliest in the clubs.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2227493]Many guys reporting here have stated that they find the German providers to be very cold. I have found the opposite to be the case. With many of them, like Gina, you have to chip through the ice. I have found the German girls to be the warmest and friendliest in the clubs.[/QUOTE]That is for sure. Chip through that ice and she is so different from her outward appearance. She is warm, loving, vulnerable, etc. You look at her and see all the tattoos and think Dominatrix or pornstar but that is just the outside. Treat her like you would a date and she really warms up.

Like I said last report, I pissed her off last time but she didn't remember me. Last March, I was trying to get 50 E appointment and she basically told me to take a walk and now she gave me a 50 E Appointment. Think about it.

Just from curiosity, if I take 1 h with the girl are there any limitations on how many times you can finish?

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2227473]
Joanna turned out to be an incredible pole dancer as well and a really cool 30 something spinner
Mya
Karine
Olympia.
Julia love this brunette.
I think her name is Angelica.
Dolly from Bulgaria
Christa and Rose'. Like the wine. These are two hot bottle blonds with lots of plastic surgery and they look like porn stars.
Marilyn who is Spanish / Romanian with curly reddish hair and three skulls tattooed over half of her chest. [/QUOTE]Joanna = Joanna seems to be her real name. Djamila is the club name of this perfect pole dancer, at least most of the time. Please note: there is another girl with the name Joanna around!

Mya = Mia.

Karine = Carla or Karen (slot machine and smoking addicted).

Angelica = Anjelica.

Julia = Giulia.

Dolly = Dali.

Christa = Crystal (she now has the name Diamond, since another girl with dark hair took over the name Crystal when blond former Crystal was away for holidays!

Marilyn = Madeleine from Republic of Moldova (very funny 21 year old girl, has special bouncing style of walking around).

Thanks.

Honest to God I wish you could buy a roster and scorecard like when you go to a baseball game. I have been racking my brain.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2227525]Joanna = Joanna seems to be her real name. Djamila is the club name of this perfect pole dancer, at least most of the time. Please note: there is another girl with the name Joanna around! [/QUOTE]I want to say more about Joanna. She was the star of Sharks for me last night. From the moment I I saw her on the top row of seats in the sauna I was intrigued. Several times all eyes in the house were on her as she did several pole dances and she drew standing ovations from all the girls who wished they could dance like her.

I had been talking to her earlier and I grabbed her by the hand in the wee hours of the morning as she was walking, carrying her shoes and the place was about to close. In the bed she was just as good as up on the pole and we did several positions including surfboard, CG, RCG with some interim positions with mish and lots of DFK whenever she could reach me. She was really into it and she was the star of the night for me on Day 3 of Shark Week. I highly recommend this girl. Watch her on the pole. That is how she is in bed.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2227525]
Mya = Mia.
[/QUOTE]There seems to be two of these. One said Mia and the other didn't spell her name. There is an aggressive one that Mya / Mia that patrols the bar whom I confused with Daria last night (Daria was there). She has black hair and areally nice ass.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2227525]
Karine = Carla or Karen (slot machine and smoking addicted).
[/QUOTE]I wanted to get this girls name because she has come up to me a couple of times over the past year to see if I want a session. She has even grabbed my hand when I walked in. As soon as I say something like "not right now" followed by "What's your name." Unlike nearly all the other girls I have met, she will immediately cops an attitude and won't even answer me and ignore all other inquiries. She is super sexy and seems to do well but I want to tell her that you catch more bees with honey. I would like to read some reports about her.

anyone have any luck with her?

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2227525]

Angelica = Anjelica.

Julia = Giulia.

Dolly = Dali.

Christa = Crystal (she now has the name Diamond, since another girl with dark hair took over the name Crystal when blond former Crystal was away for holidays!

Marilyn = Madeleine from Republic of Moldova (very funny 21 year old girl, has special bouncing style of walking around).[/QUOTE]Christa was calling herself Christa all night. Marilyn/Madeleine is a very nice girl and she does have a nice walk and I did enjoy talking to her. I guess I was a little distracted by the solid mass of ink containing the skulls she chose to put in a very conspicuous spot cross her upper chest. But you are right. In spite of this, she is really nice and kind of cute.

So after good success on Monday, I headed back in Thursday night with an early flight Friday morning. Train to Nord, quick trip to Sharks, I got there around 8:30. I normally would have just gone to the RLD with such a late start, but, last night in town, etc.

Shower and food first. Lots more guys than Monday, but oddly less action. Lots of guys, especially groups of Asians, just sitting around. Weird.

Session 1 - Ada: Ada is a pretty average looking but very sweet Ro, blondish hair, glasses. We had chatted on Monday, and she was so nice, I went for the 50€ 30 minute GFE. We went in one of the rooms on the sauna deck. Great BBBJ, great cowgirl finish. She lightly asked about finish in her mouth, since so many guys come to the club for things they can't get elsewhere, like anal and CIM. I explained that for me, being on the other side of a half century, fucking a pretty girl who is 30 years younger *is* the fantasy, which cracked her up. She was pretty good, nothing exceptional, but entirely competent. She did complain about the lack of action from the guys, which was something I heard all night from nearly every girl. She would do well to love to a smaller club I think, as she is never going to standout on looks.

Some more food, and then some relaxing, letting the little Captain reload. At my age, with no vitamins left, these things take time. So I chatted and observed. The guys, who were more plentiful than Monday, really were less active, no question. This seem to exasperate the girls, who became less aggressive about going up to guys. I mean, in contrast to Monday, I was able to sit on a couch downstairs for 30 minutes at a time with no one coming to talk to me. Mostly they sat at the bar and talked.

Finally, with the torpedoes reloaded, I jumped on Clara, Ro with extremely distinctive lips. We had chatted on Monday and flirted a bit when I came in, and the Captain was in favor. Again, BBBJ and cowgirl, with some DFK thrown in. For all her problem personality on the floor, she was great in the sack, we went about 40 minutes before all torpedoes were launched. We had agreed on 50€ and I paid 70€ because I had such a good time.

Showered, taxi home. Damage: 65+120+50=235€. Not bad, but short visits (and taxi rides) aren't a good deal.

Observations:

1) The guys really were just sitting. This lead to the girls being a bit frustrated, which made 50€ sessions possible with nearly everyone. Except for the two bottle blonde Barbies at the far end of the bar, who stuck to their 100€ all night. But I never saw them session.

2) With more people in the club, and less room activity, my God did the smoking bug me. Most of the guys smoked, but the girls smoked incessantly, and so the club got pretty unpleasant. I had to roam outside with a bit to get a break. I wish the club had a separate smoking section, like Mainhattan does.

3) Scarlett, lovely Ro, was my regret of the night. Had a great, flirtatious conversation with her, but was not ready to go. When I was ready later, she was busy. Such is the FKK life.

4) German girls, all in a bunch at the tables to the left of the bar, were very intriguing. But they were so quiet and reserved I felt like they'd rather session, do I left them alone. Slight regret.

5) Older MILF from Latvia, name I don't remember, holding court at the far end of the bar. Big ass, big sass. Fun to talk with, didn't pull the trigger. Slight regret.

6) Short Ro, brown hair down to her waist, tattoo on her left thigh. Beautiful, beautiful face. Could not catch her eye to save my life, someone else was always walking up as I was. Big regret.

So a successful to night trip to Sharks. I think I would not like the crowd on weekends, and certainly the Mainhattan experience was very different. Having all those girls available was a treat. Negotiating pays off, especially if you are willing to walk away from a bad deal.

Romania, I shall always think of you fondly.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2227562]Thanks.

Honest to God I wish you could buy a roster and scorecard like when you go to a baseball game. I have been racking my brain.

I want to say more about Joanna. She was the star of Sharks for me last night. From the moment I I saw her on the top row of seats in the sauna I was intrigued. Several times all eyes in the house were on her as she did several pole dances and she drew standing ovations from all the girls who wished they could dance like her.

I had been talking to her earlier and I grabbed her by the hand in the wee hours of the morning as she was walking, carrying her shoes and the place was about to close. In the bed she was just as good as up on the pole and we did several positions including surfboard, CG, RCG with some interim positions with mish and lots of DFK whenever she could reach me. She was really into it and she was the star of the night for me on Day 3 of Shark Week. I highly recommend this girl. Watch her on the pole. That is how she is in bed.

There seems to be two of these. One said Mia and the other didn't spell her name. There is an aggressive one that Mya / Mia that patrols the bar whom I confused with Daria last night (Daria was there). She has black hair and areally nice ass..[/QUOTE]It is just ridiculous to behave like that, the girls are prostitutes probably have a pimp or a BF or are married and are just here to suck as much cash as possible, if you are looking for some romance better to visit other places than brothels.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2227562]I wanted to get this girls name because she has come up to me a couple of times over the past year to see if I want a session. She has even grabbed my hand when I walked in. As soon as I say something like "not right now" followed by "What's your name." Unlike nearly all the other girls I have met, she will immediately cops an attitude and won't even answer me and ignore all other inquiries. [/QUOTE]That is exactly my experience with Carla / Karen too. And for sure that is the reason why I haven't been with her so far.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2227562]I want to say more about Joanna. She was the star of Sharks for me last night. From the moment I I saw her on the top row of seats in the sauna I was intrigued. Several times all eyes in the house were on her as she did several pole dances and she drew standing ovations from all the girls who wished they could dance like her.[/QUOTE]Usually the pole dancers like Djamila, Mirella or Judith have do three dances per night. Otherwise they don't get a certain amount of money for this.

I like pretty Misha ex World, sweet with a bit of elegance for look. 50 per 30 mn for our time.

[QUOTE=SpiritWalker;2226352]I haven't seen Madalina for a long time and lately there are few reports about her. Does anybody knows if she has stopped completely?[/QUOTE]Pretty sure I saw her at the beginning of August. She may just be on holiday.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2227473]Post Script: As Danni and Mischa told me, there are tiers in Sharks. Yes, this is not a club for locals to go to. They would be broke. For full service including a BJ I like with a finish I prefer the following price structure seems to be as stated below. They are all trying to drive to that 150E/30 minutes.

1st tier 150/30 minutes.

2nd tier 100 Euros for this.

3rd tier 100 euros /1 hour GFE extra 50 E for a porn star finish.

4th Tier 50 Euros for a GFE 30 minute date.

[/QUOTE]I'm sorry but you ruined a great post be quoting this rubbish from two sharky ladies as if it were truth. This is just the price these particular ladies wish to charge tourists, particularly North American or East Asian tourists, who have a tendency to far too readily hand over their hard earned cash simply because, in the the case of US tourists, the price of pussy in FKK-Land is so much less expensive than sex prison USA and in the case of East Asian tourists this is their big chance to bed a reasonable looking European hooker. These girls know that both tourist types have traveled across continents to get to Germany and FKK Sharks and therefore in their minds these tourists must have plenty of cash and should they name a high price their is every chance that they will hit a big payment.

Do you seriously think that any of the locals are paying these prices? The club is full of locals. Tourists may be a considerable percentage visiting FKK Sharks (and particularly at weekends) but certainly not in enough numbers to keep the club open.

I repeat, anybody who is happy to pay euro 150 for 30 minutes with a Romanian floozie would be better served by heading to FKK Globe in Zurich where the club is full of five star hookers and the service level is guaranteed by management.

The problem with Sharks (and Oase and probably Palace / Mainhattan) is that management don't care whether the customer is being overcharged or whether the service levels of the girls are of a descent standard. They certainly don't care about tourists who at best occasionally visit the club. The above tiered pricing is invented and purely for smucks!

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2227473]Post Script: As Danni and Mischa told me, there are tiers in Sharks. Yes, this is not a club for locals to go to. They would be broke. For full service including a BJ I like with a finish I prefer the following price structure seems to be as stated below. They are all trying to drive to that 150E/30 minutes.

1st tier 150/30 minutes.

2nd tier 100 Euros for this.

3rd tier 100 euros /1 hour GFE extra 50 E for a porn star finish.

4th Tier 50 Euros for a GFE 30 minute date.

[/QUOTE]I'm sorry but you ruined what was a great post be quoting this fabricated rubbish from two sharky hookers as if it were truth! In the words of the 45th President of the USA; "Fake news"!

The above price scheme is just the cash amounts these particular ladies wish to charge tourists, particularly North American or East Asian tourists, who have a tendency to far too readily hand over their hard earned cash simply because, in the the case of US tourists, the price of pussy in FKK-Land is so much less expensive than sex prison USA and in the case of East Asian tourists, this is their big chance to bed a reasonable looking European hooker. These girls know that both tourist types have traveled across continents to get to Germany and FKK Sharks, and therefore in their minds these tourists must have plenty of cash and should they name a high price, there is every chance that they will hit a big payment with a guy who knows no better, who is unlikely to haggle and who is unlikely to walk away.

Do you seriously think that any of the locals are paying these prices? The club is full of locals. Tourists may be a considerable percentage visiting FKK Sharks (and particularly at weekends) but certainly not in enough numbers to keep the club open.

I repeat, anybody who is happy to pay euro 150 for 30 minutes with a Romanian floozie would be better served by heading to FKK Globe in Zurich where the club is full of five star hookers and the service level is guaranteed by management. I would feel scammed if I paid euro 150 for 30 minutes of pretty standard gfe nookie with a slightly above average looking hooker in FKK Sharks! I certainly would not be writing about it on ISG!

The problem with Sharks (and Oase and probably Palace / Mainhattan) is that management don't care whether the customer is being overcharged or whether the service levels of the girls are of a descent standard. They certainly don't care about tourists who at best occasionally visit the club. The above tiered pricing is invented and purely for schmucks!

If this is how you (or any ISG Member) is being continually treated by the ladies in FKK Sharks, my advice is to head elsewhere!

[QUOTE=DerAuslander;2227678]I'm sorry but you ruined what was a great post be quoting this fabricated rubbish from two sharky hookers as if it were truth! In the words of the 45th President of the USA; "Fake news"!

The above price scheme is just the cash amounts these particular ladies wish to charge tourists, particularly North American or East Asian tourists, who have a tendency to far too readily hand over their hard earned cash simply because, in the the case of US tourists, the price of pussy in FKK-Land is so much less expensive than sex prison USA and in the case of East Asian tourists, this is their big chance to bed a reasonable looking European hooker. These girls know that both tourist types have traveled across continents to get to Germany and FKK Sharks, and therefore in their minds these tourists must have plenty of cash and should they name a high price, there is every chance that they will hit a big payment with a guy who knows no better, who is unlikely to haggle and who is unlikely to walk away.

Do you seriously think that any of the locals are paying these prices? The club is full of locals. Tourists may be a considerable percentage visiting FKK Sharks (and particularly at weekends) but certainly not in enough numbers to keep the club open.

I repeat, anybody who is happy to pay euro 150 for 30 minutes with a Romanian floozie would be better served by heading to FKK Globe in Zurich where the club is full of five star hookers and the service level is guaranteed by management. I would feel scammed if I paid euro 150 for 30 minutes of pretty standard gfe nookie with a slightly above average looking hooker in FKK Sharks! I certainly would not be writing about it on ISG!

The problem with Sharks (and Oase and probably Palace / Mainhattan) is that management don't care whether the customer is being overcharged or whether the service levels of the girls are of a descent standard. They certainly don't care about tourists who at best occasionally visit the club. The above tiered pricing is invented and purely for schmucks!

If this is how you (or any ISG Member) is being continually treated by the ladies in FKK Sharks, my advice is to head elsewhere![/QUOTE]Hi Der Auslander. Well written. I'm going to give up preaching the choir here (including the Tourists) on the standard rates, even though I myself am a half-Asian Tourist.

A fool and his money are soon parted. - Thomas Tusser.

There's a sucker born every minute.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2227473].[/QUOTE]Great post as usual HS. Enjoyed reading it.

[QUOTE=LaBambaBoy;2227579]So after good success on Monday, I headed back in Thursday night with an early flight Friday morning. Train to Nord, quick trip to Sharks, I got there around 8:30. I normally would have just gone to the RLD with such a late start, but, last night in town, etc.

Shower and food first. Lots more guys than Monday, but oddly less action. Lots of guys, especially groups of Asians, just sitting around. Weird.

Session 1 - Ada: Ada is a pretty average looking but very sweet Ro, blondish hair, glasses. We had chatted on Monday, and she was so nice, I went for the 50 30 minute GFE. We went in one of the rooms on the sauna deck. Great BBBJ, great cowgirl finish. She lightly asked about finish in her mouth, since so many guys come to the club for things they can't get elsewhere, like anal and CIM. I explained that for me, being on the other side of a half century, fucking a pretty girl who is 30 years younger *is* the fantasy, which cracked her up. She was pretty good, nothing exceptional, but entirely competent. She did complain about the lack of action from the guys, which was something I heard all night from nearly every girl. She would do well to love to a smaller club I think, as she is never going to standout on looks.

Some more food, and then some relaxing, letting the little Captain reload. At my age, with no vitamins left, these things take time. So I chatted and observed. The guys, who were more plentiful than Monday, really were less active, no question. This seem to exasperate the girls, who became less aggressive about going up to guys. I mean, in contrast to Monday, I was able to sit on a couch downstairs for 30 minutes at a time with no one coming to talk to me. Mostly they sat at the bar and talked..[/QUOTE]Thanks for a great post. Brings back some great memories of this place. Looking forward to my next trip.

For the last fucking time: That is what these girls are trying to get. I gave them my price and they walked away and I didn't sleep with them. Yes I said that they were tourist prices. I didn't pay the fucking tourist prices. Those particular girls would only go to the room for those prices.

One thing is for sure and I only know one thing: The two of you are not going to get it from the those girls that I quoted for any less. Yes, I think that if you two went to sharks and tried to get with those girls that is what you would have paid. I wanted two of them (Misha and Danni) but we could never agree on a price as they stuck to that tier one pricing scheme and wouldn't budge. How the fuck is that fake news? I reported what they were asking? Do you think for a second that if Gino turns the corner or Der Auslander that all of a sudden you were off to the room with the same girls for 50 Euro? Now that is bull shit! Or maybe you would wink and nod and off you go for 50 Euro. I don't believe it.

A fool and his money? I didn't go to the room with them. I was just reporting what they wanted and like I said two of them I really wanted to do (Misha and Danni) but they wouldn't budge so I walked. Danni even spent a 1/2 hour talking with me trying to convince me that she was worth it. So how is this fake news?

English must be a second language for the both of you.



[QUOTE=Gino02;2227695]Hi Der Auslander. Well written. I'm going to give up preaching the choir here (including the Tourists) on the standard rates, even though I myself am a half-Asian Tourist.

A fool and his money are soon parted. - Thomas Tusser.

There's a sucker born every minute.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DerAuslander;2227678]I'm sorry but you ruined what was a great post be quoting this fabricated rubbish from two sharky hookers as if it were truth! In the words of the 45th President of the USA; "Fake news"!

The above price scheme is just the cash amounts these particular ladies wish to charge tourists, particularly North American or East Asian tourists, who have a tendency to far too readily hand over their hard earned cash simply because, in the the case of US tourists, the price of pussy in FKK-Land is so much less expensive than sex prison USA and in the case of East Asian tourists, this is their big chance to bed a reasonable looking European hooker. These girls know that both tourist types have traveled across continents to get to Germany and FKK Sharks, and therefore in their minds these tourists must have plenty of cash and should they name a high price, there is every chance that they will hit a big payment with a guy who knows no better, who is unlikely to haggle and who is unlikely to walk away.

Do you seriously think that any of the locals are paying these prices? The club is full of locals. Tourists may be a considerable percentage visiting FKK Sharks (and particularly at weekends) but certainly not in enough numbers to keep the club open.

I repeat, anybody who is happy to pay euro 150 for 30 minutes with a Romanian floozie would be better served by heading to FKK Globe in Zurich where the club is full of five star hookers and the service level is guaranteed by management. I would feel scammed if I paid euro 150 for 30 minutes of pretty standard gfe nookie with a slightly above average looking hooker in FKK Sharks! I certainly would not be writing about it on ISG!

The problem with Sharks (and Oase and probably Palace / Mainhattan) is that management don't care whether the customer is being overcharged or whether the service levels of the girls are of a descent standard. They certainly don't care about tourists who at best occasionally visit the club. The above tiered pricing is invented and purely for schmucks!

If this is how you (or any ISG Member) is being continually treated by the ladies in FKK Sharks, my advice is to head elsewhere![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DerAuslander;2227678]I'm sorry but you ruined what was a great post be quoting this fabricated rubbish from two sharky hookers as if it were truth! In the words of the 45th President of the USA; "Fake news"!

The above price scheme is just the cash amounts these particular ladies wish to charge tourists, particularly North American or East Asian tourists, who have a tendency to far too readily hand over their hard earned cash simply because, in the the case of US tourists, the price of pussy in FKK-Land is so much less expensive than sex prison USA and in the case of East Asian tourists, this is their big chance to bed a reasonable looking European hooker. These girls know that both tourist types have traveled across continents to get to Germany and FKK Sharks, and therefore in their minds these tourists must have plenty of cash and should they name a high price, there is every chance that they will hit a big payment with a guy who knows no better, who is unlikely to haggle and who is unlikely to walk away.

Do you seriously think that any of the locals are paying these prices? The club is full of locals. Tourists may be a considerable percentage visiting FKK Sharks (and particularly at weekends) but certainly not in enough numbers to keep the club open.[/QUOTE]Even not a German local, but Misha is not a high upseller for my experience, a sweet GFE girl, but also not for a 50€ quickie.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2227636]I like pretty Misha ex World, sweet with a bit of elegance for look. 50 per 30 mn for our time.[/QUOTE]Well look here. Pepe LE pew was able to get Misha for 50 E /30 min but she turned down 100 with a BJ I like and a finish I like from me.

I think this is the fake news...or, more power to ya!

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2227764]Well look here. Pepe LE pew was able to get Misha for 50 E /30 min but she turned down 100 with a BJ I like and a finish I like from me.

I think this is the fake news...or, more power to ya![/QUOTE]Misha was available for 50 for each 30 mn on end of 2017, but I'm not a 30 mn rabbit and she doesn't like quickie, I prefer to play my GFE games with a sweet girl she is.

But I agree: more and more upselling girls at Sharks since this Summer, no top beauties seen, only Elen is sexy but she runs for easy Asians so her vagina maybe Asian size. Business seem quite slow for most of girls. For my little experience, smart girls never speak about money, they prefer to try to make regulars who will spend more than 1000 per month on her. Upselling girls are most of times low level girls who think they worth better than what they are really able to behave.

Fortunately, but have to work harder and harder, can sometimes find a real good, pretty girl who really will to please You, and she never spoke about money, she just take what I give her, so no pit stop at Globe on my way back from my dreams and records, my lovely Romanian should get my nearly 2000 per month business, but on club rate, as long she will be so lovely with me. Being smart attract good clients business, even for 50€ rate, but for 5 hours each week end.

DerAuslander. Well said. I have already taken your advice and gone elsewhere. I got fed up with some girls trying for inflated prices and trying to condition me into thinking that a session of a hundred euros was nothing. I treat the workers with respect and expect the same in return

Girl says minimum price is 100 for decent session: I walk away. Girl gives good service for 50 and I then spend maybe 500 maximum. I leave Sharks to the overpaying tourists, the many correct paying local frequent visitors, and those tourists who are happy to deal with the aggro of having to negotiate with some girls

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2227750]For the last fucking time: That is what these girls are trying to get. I gave them my price and they walked away and I didn't sleep with them. Yes I said that they were tourist prices. I didn't pay the fucking tourist prices. Those particular girls would only go to the room for those prices.[/QUOTE]I absolutely believe you!

My problem is the following inaccuracies in your recent post:

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2227473] Yes, this is not a club for locals to go to. They would be broke.[/QUOTE]This is just plain wrong. There are nearly always far more locals in FKK Sharks than tourists. Some may not seem like German citizens because they may be of Turkish origin (and hence speaking Turkish) but they do live locally. FKK Sharks or indeed any of the Frankfurt clubs would not stay open on tourist revenue alone! You just have to be in the club on a Sunday afternoon to see and realize how many locals are in attendance as they watch the Bundesliga (German soccer league matches) on TV. The club is sometimes over 90% local and packed to the rafters.

Generally speaking locals will not pay these prices which you quote (I. E. Euro 100 or euro 150 for 30 minutes). Nor will any frequent visitor to the club be he French, Belgian, Dutch, Italian, British or from anywhere else pay these prices. Of course there are schmucks from every country, not just North America, and chances are if you were a frequent visitor to the club you would not have been quoted these prices, unless perhaps the club was particularly busy but even then probably not. I accept that many hookers in Sharks want euro 100 for 30 minutes but they are just as likely to accept euro 100 for 60 minutes and include GFE and BBBJ for no extra. You have to be prepared to haggle and if necessary walk away.

The problem you have is that US tourists along with East Asian (Japanese, Taiwanese, South Korean) tourists have a reputation for overpaying. The hookers know that you have traveled across continents to get to FKK Sharks and have a few dollars in your pocket to splash out. The girls will definitely try to extract the maximum dollars / euros they can from these tourist types in the knowledge that they are unlikely to see you ever again because by the time you come back (if you come back) she will have moved on to another club or to another life.

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2227473]They are all trying to drive to that 150E/30 minutes.

1st tier 150/30 minutes.

2nd tier 100 Euros for this.

3rd tier 100 euros /1 hour GFE extra 50 E for a porn star finish.

4th Tier 50 Euros for a GFE 30 minute date.[/QUOTE]My problem here is that you are quoting the words of two hungry hookers, who are trying to condition you to pay more than is usually necessary for a fast fuck, and then presenting this made-up pricing structure as if it was some newly discovered fact. Just like Moses presenting the 10 commandments on stone tablets to the Israelites, you present the above pricing structure as if it were a revelation from God! This pricing structure is complete bullshit! The correct rate is euro 50 for 30 minutes with BBBJ (and sometimes not BBBJ). You should not have to pay extra for kisses or GFE but if you are just going to the room for 30 minutes how much GFE / kisses do you want or expect? The better looking the girl the more rooms she will get. Some girls do not want to do 30 minute sessions or at least charge a premium for doing so, Thats fair enough. Either haggle and get the price down or simply walk away or pay (in the knowledge that you are overpaying and have been had).

[QUOTE=HungryStud101;2227750]English must be a second language for the both of you.[/QUOTE]English has been spoken in my native country longer than the United States has existed and some of the greatest writers in the language have come from my native city. Its a pity that you find it necessary to inject personal insults into this conversation. Perhaps I have been too hard on you. I applaud (for the most part) the style of your recent travel post and regret that I find it necessary to highlight some inaccuracies in what is for the most part a very entertaining report. At least you are bringing information back to the forum and that in itself is a good thing and if noting else the commentary you have made in your report has caused controversy. I wish you well.

[QUOTE=DerAuslander;2227887]IAt least you are bringing information back to the forum and that in itself is a good thing and if noting else the commentary you have made in your report has caused controversy. I wish you well.[/QUOTE]Yes and maybe you should think about doing the same thing, because I don't think I read a report written by you recently (actually I can't remember reading any report by you). He just reported what those girls told him, and saying that there is no upselling in Sharks is a massive fake news! That's why I decided not to come back in this shark pond.

Asians, Americanos and other non-locals:

Please read this excellent post from "Der Auslander". I could not possibly agree more with all this. Ah, and BTW, if you finished reading, please start over again. In the hope that you memorize this all. Do not spoil the ladies! DO not overpay. Thank you!!

FYI: I am quasi-local, and speak german 100% fluently. So I was very rarely asked those prices. But I hear they are quite the norm to be asked to non-locals, especially if one of the big Messe events are going on!

[QUOTE=DerAuslander;2227887]I absolutely believe you!

My problem is the following inaccuracies in your recent post:

This is just plain wrong. There are nearly always far more locals in FKK Sharks than tourists. Some may not seem like German citizens because they may be of Turkish origin (and hence speaking Turkish) but they do live locally. FKK Sharks or indeed any of the Frankfurt clubs would not stay open on tourist revenue alone! You just have to be in the club on a Sunday afternoon to see and realize how many locals are in attendance as they watch the Bundesliga (German soccer league matches) on TV. The club is sometimes over 90% local and packed to the rafters.

Generally speaking locals will not pay these prices which you quote (I. E. Euro 100 or euro 150 for 30 minutes). Nor will any frequent visitor to the club be he French, Belgian, Dutch, Italian, British or from anywhere else pay these prices. Of course there are schmucks from every country, not just North America, and chances are if you were a frequent visitor to the club you would not have been quoted these prices, unless perhaps the club was particularly busy but even then probably not. I accept that many hookers in Sharks want euro 100 for 30 minutes but they are just as likely to accept euro 100 for 60 minutes and include GFE and BBBJ for no extra. You have to be prepared to haggle and if necessary walk away.

The problem you have is that US tourists along with East Asian (Japanese, Taiwanese, South Korean) tourists have a reputation for overpaying. The hookers know that you have traveled across continents to get to FKK Sharks and have a few dollars in your pocket to splash out. The girls will definitely try to extract the maximum dollars / euros they can from these tourist types in the knowledge that they are unlikely to see you ever again because by the time you come back (if you come back) she will have moved on to another club or to another life.

My problem here is that you are quoting the words of two hungry hookers, who are trying to condition you to pay more than is usually necessary for a fast fuck, and then presenting this made-up pricing structure as if it was some newly discovered fact. Just like Moses presenting the 10 commandments on stone tablets to the Israelites, you present the above pricing structure as if it were a revelation from God! This pricing structure is complete bullshit! The correct rate is euro 50 for 30 minutes with BBBJ (and sometimes not BBBJ). You should not have to pay extra for kisses or GFE but if you are just going to the room for 30 minutes how much GFE / kisses do you want or expect? The better looking the girl the more rooms she will get. Some girls do not want to do 30 minute sessions or at least charge a premium for doing so, Thats fair enough. Either haggle and get the price down or simply walk away or pay (in the knowledge that you are overpaying and have been had).

English has been spoken in my native country longer than the United States has existed and some of the greatest writers in the language have come from my native city. Its a pity that you find it necessary to inject personal insults into this conversation. Perhaps I have been too hard on you. I applaud (for the most part) the style of your recent travel post and regret that I find it necessary to highlight some inaccuracies in what is for the most part a very entertaining report. At least you are bringing information back to the forum and that in itself is a good thing and if noting else the commentary you have made in your report has caused controversy. I wish you well.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Optimist;2227885]DerAuslander. Well said. I have already taken your advice and gone elsewhere. I got fed up with some girls trying for inflated prices and trying to condition me into thinking that a session of a hundred euros was nothing. I treat the workers with respect and expect the same in return

Girl says minimum price is 100 for decent session: I walk away. Girl gives good service for 50 and I then spend maybe 500 maximum. I leave Sharks to the overpaying tourists, the many correct paying local frequent visitors, and those tourists who are happy to deal with the aggro of having to negotiate with some girls[/QUOTE]I don't overpay ever in Sharks, I did once at Artemis and enormously regretted doing so.

The only type of overpaying I do is agree to one hour 100 Euro sessions.

I agree with Auslander in principle, however not all clubs are the same. I doubt you can get a good session in Artemis from most girls for the standard rate.

Do you guys think the norms at Sharks apply to Oase as well? I am not so sure, the service at Sharks seems more reliable.

Sakura has much better service than Paradise for example, in Paradise I agreed to the one hour 100 Euro deal to get the same terms as in Sakura.

Surely these norms don't hold for all clubs, I do agree that overpaying spoils the market and it is silly.

Get extras by all means, I frequently pay for anal but don't ever pay for standard things like kissing and any type of blowjob.

Good points made on all sides. However, HungryStud is merely saying "don't shoot the messenger". From what I know, he is a seasoned monger and there is no evidence he overpaid and destroyed any market.

Even if they are tourists, the ones who frequent these clubs would want rational pricing. On my very first visit in my super excitement, I might have been willing to pay any price the girl wanted (actually, I did not even on that day). But if one is visiting 6 times a year, spending thousands per visit just to get there, one would want to partake as many sessions as possible, and an extra hundred per hour adds up quickly. On this site, the ones who write regularly are all frequent mongers and I expect they do not want to destroy the market anymore than the locals do. I recently posted a cost estimate per trip for me which runs nearly 4 grand per visit. Why would I intentionally want it to run upto 6 grand which it would be if all hourly rates were to double? I wouldn't.

The other point HS made is that there are certain girls who simply refuse to do 50 E /30 M w / BBBJ and DFK. Many in fact. I don't believe there is any evidence that the locals are successfully getting good service from those either.

And then there are other girls who do give good service to locals and regulars but not to tourists. That is because they EXPECT to obtain repeat business from them. This is no different than a bulk discount shoppers receive. To some extent, the higher priced services tourists pay subsidize the bulk discounts for the locals and regulars.

UH is a super regular at Oase even if he is an American tourist. He obtains great services from many girls there, even as the few genuine locals on this thread occasionally complained that Oase has become a shark haven. This shows that there are multiple dynamics at play here and not just a us vs them bashing.

And finally, moneyed tourists paying more than locals happens in practically every region and market. I have no doubt that the northern Europeans flocking to the warm comforts of Bali and Siam for beaches and women are probably overpaying for a whole bunch of things more than the locals do in those areas. You can curse the tourists all you want, but unless you erect walls like ISG hero Trump wants to and stop tourism totally, this is a "problem" that will not be solved merely by bashing clueless Americans and Asians. China got admitted to WTO in the early 2000s and since then that country alone has increased global GDP by several trillion dollars and printed several thousand millionaire names -- it is inevitable that some of that money flows into clubs to chase Romanian poon tang -- this is just a fact of life.

[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;2227945]................Do you guys think the norms at Sharks apply to Oase as well? I am not so sure, the service at Sharks seems more reliable.........[/QUOTE]In June / July I had to look harder to get standard sessions at Oase. The girls were more sharkish and from my observations for some reason the mongers were more tolerant of being scammed.

Delta. No way suggesting you overpay. I think you come within the group who can negotiate happily through the perils of that portion of girls wanting to overcharge: personally I can't be bothered.

As for Oase, several members negotiate those waters happily and successfully without getting scammed.

I think it is just a question of establishing credentials as a regular visitor and having a modicum of charm (having money, basic humanity, and no body odour). I just don't go enough to establish myself in a new big club quickly enough.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;2227945]The only type of overpaying I do is agree to one hour 100 Euro sessions.[/QUOTE]What percentage of girls at oase and sharks do you guys think require 100 euro per hour for a good session including at least DFK and BBBJ? I assume world is a lower percentage.

I'm asking because I still prefer to only commit to 50 euro for 30 minutes with new girls but have no issues extending to 1 or 2 hours if the girl is good. Just pains me to commit to an hour with an unknown quantity.

BB. At World is close to zero (though quite a few girls don't dfk at all). Others will have better info than me about Sharks and Oase, but I know it is much much higher.

I have same approach as you and will not commit to an hour. Someone here said he commits to an hour and if the girl is not as good as she promises, aborts after 29 minutes.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2227958]What percentage of girls at oase and sharks do you guys think require 100 euro per hour for a good session including at least DFK and BBBJ? I assume world is a lower percentage.

I'm asking because I still prefer to only commit to 50 euro for 30 minutes with new girls but have no issues extending to 1 or 2 hours if the girl is good. Just pains me to commit to an hour with an unknown quantity.[/QUOTE]I had no trouble getting BBBJ (no CIM) for 50 euro at Sharks. DFK was tougher, though I admit I did not push for it; not always my thing.

BTW, overpaying comes in many forms. There are mongers who spend several hours in the room with a girl drinking, chatting, and even listening to music or playing cards with a fraction of time spent on sex. Technically, if you spend 6 hours in a room with a girl and give 600, you can claim you paid the right rate -- to me, you paid 600 for one hour of real sex. Then there are others who give gifts and cash to their fav girls believing their sob stories and don't think for a minute about it but think they have exacting standards because they negotiate 50 E /30 M with some other girls.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2227970]BTW, overpaying comes in many forms. There are mongers who spend several hours in the room with a girl drinking, chatting, and even listening to music or playing cards with a fraction of time spent on sex. Technically, if you spend 6 hours in a room with a girl and give 600, you can claim you paid the right rate -- to me, you paid 600 for one hour of real sex. Then there are others who give gifts and cash to their fav girls believing their sob stories and don't think for a minute about it but think they have exacting standards because they negotiate 50 E /30 M with some other girls.[/QUOTE]Ah. You have found me out. LOL.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2227979]Ah. You have found me out. LOL.[/QUOTE]No, I don't expect veteran mongers like you will be the ones I referenced but at the same time I know I read stories of such accounts here. I have been hit up once by my top girl at that time, I simply shrugged my shoulders and said sorry. My point is that people have no business bashing the spending practices of others around here -- "shaming" a few writers here will have zero impact on the general trend anyway. The problem, if it is a problem, is much bigger than a few guys you can lecture down on a site like this.

[URL]https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/comment/rise-of-the-chinese-tourist/[/URL]

See the rise of the Chinese tourist. This is a tsunami, and not a whole lot the average local pensioner with 3 K monthly income can do if his spending is drowned out by deeper pockets from elsewhere.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2227985]My point is that people have no business bashing the spending practices of others around here -- "shaming" a few writers here will have zero impact on the general trend anyway. [/QUOTE]I completely disagree! Nobody is shaming anyone. :rolleyes:

It is important for everyone (whether they are a Chinese National, a US Citizen, a British Subject or from Outer Mongolia) who is reading this forum to know [b]for sure[/b] what the correct pricing structure is and when they are being asked to pay over the odds.

There is far too much blurring of the lines on the subject of pricing in Frankfurt FKKs and far too many members on this forum who have developed an absolute acceptance of being ripped off. They have in effect become apologists for these rip-off practices whether they realize it or not. ^

The hookers know that some guys (particularly members from the US and East Asia) have traveled across continents to get to Germany and FKK Sharks, and therefore in their minds these tourists must have plenty of cash and should they name a high price, there is every chance that they will hit a big payment with a guy who knows no better, who is unlikely to haggle and who is unlikely to walk away.

I want members to know (for sure) when they are being asked to pay over and above what is the norm.

[s]^ Please note I do not refer to HungryStud101 in any of the above.[/s]

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2227950] ... is that there are certain girls who simply refuse to do 50 E /30 M w / BBBJ and DFK. Many in fact. I don't believe there is any evidence that the locals are successfully getting good service from those either. .[/QUOTE]First of all, according to the german law, no BBBJ is allowed anymore.

Second, girls need to register to satisfy the needs of the respective tax offices.

That's the legal side to it.

For both points, reality in the clubs might be different. But as with all illegal things, if we ask for it, high probability that we need to pay more for it.

What is our contribution? We don't want to change our beloved capitalistic habits and narcissistic traits that make us think we can get everything for money. Therefore, once we enter the FKK club scene nowadays, many of us are willing to dive into illegal pleasure. And only few wake up and realize right now, that these so-called happy days of mongering in Germany are over and gone.

Sex is sold in ever increasing factory like fantasy worlds and within that environment the illusion of quality is substituted / superseded by the illusion of quantity (pay more to get more).

[QUOTE=DerAuslander;2227993]I completely disagree! Nobody is shaming anyone. :rolleyes:

It is important for everyone (whether they are a Chinese National, a US Citizen, a British Subject or from Outer Mongolia) who is reading this forum to know [b]for sure[/b] what the correct pricing structure is and when they are being asked to pay over the odds.

There is far too much blurring of the lines on the subject of pricing in Frankfurt FKKs and far too many members on this forum who have developed an absolute acceptance of being ripped off.

The hookers know that some guys (particularly members from the US and East Asia) have traveled across continents to get to Germany and FKK Sharks, and therefore in their minds these tourists must have plenty of cash and should they name a high price, there is every chance that they will hit a big payment with a guy who knows no better, who is unlikely to haggle and who is unlikely to walk away.

I want members to know (for sure) when they are being asked to pay over and above what is the norm.[/QUOTE]If I am being literal and I say "people have no business shaming others", and you say "I completely disagree".........

Whether some people are being shamed or not -- that is for those people who got shamed to say. It is easy for the basher to claim "no one got bashed".

Secondly, yes we all know the pricing. But as I said, even the lecturers here many times overpaid in other ways. No one knows what the fuck anyone is doing behind the doors. And the percent of people writing regularly on this site is a very small fraction of total attendees. The rest of them will pay what they will pay, regardless of what the preachers here will say. The only thing we achieve by bashing people who write reports is a suppression of future reports.

To repeat, I simply want members to know (for sure) when they are being asked to pay over and above what is the norm.

I am happy to let my fellow members judge which of us is correct.

Seems to me that all the points made by everybody are valid. It is rare to be able to say that.

1. Overpaying has its own self re-in forcing dynamic reducing quality of service.

2. The effect of this forum is minimal.

3. Everybody here can make their own choices and then report without getting bashed.

4 It is good if visitors know the pricing situation when they visit a club.

Cheers everybody.

To repeat, I simply want members to know (for sure) when they are being asked to pay over and above what is the norm.

I am happy to let my fellow members judge which of us is correct.

You just forget may be one important point, since the new law of 2017 there is no more any norm, the girls can ask what they want.

Dear friends,

We all come here for fun but no quarrels. I myself visited Sharks two weeks ago. Here is the summary of Line up in the past three weeks in September. Some information come from what I saw, some from other websites. I wish everyone could contribute information about WGs price schema. I set up 5 categories base on the [B]minimum price[/B] the girls would accept including basic GFE and BJ, [B]but without CIM or Anus service.[/B].

1) 50 E /30 min.

2) 100 E / 30 min.

3) 100 E / [B]60 min.[/B].

4) 150 E /[B]60 min.[/B].

5) Higher.

Summary of Lineup (Girls were present in the first 3 weeks in Sept.).

I assume that about 25% girls are in category 1 (50 E /30 min), 50% girls in category 3 (100 E /60 min).

[B]Name.[/B]

Abi.

Ada.

Aichia.

Aishia.

Alexa.

Alexandra.

Alicia.

Alina.

Amalia.

Anastasia.

Anca.

Andrea.

Angelina, the.

Angelina, Ro.

Anjelica.

Annika.

Ariella.

Ava.

Ayleen.

Bella.

Betty.

Bianca,

Brigitte*.

Carla.

Catalina.

Claudia.

Coco.

Cora.

Judith.

Corinna, H.

Crystal (black-haired)*.

Diamond (blonde Crystal).

Dali, BG.

Damina.

Dani.

Daria.

Delia.

Dilek.

Dina.

Djamila.

Elektra / Kade.

Eleonora.

Elevana.

Elif.

Elisa.

Ellen,

Emma.

Enya.

Ester.

Evelina.

Evelyn,

Ewa.

Gina (D),

Giulia.

Helen.

Ilona,

Ina.

Inka.

Irina.

Iris,

Isabella, CZ.

Ivona.

Jessy.

Jill, the.

Joana / Joanna.

Kaira*.

Karen.

Karina.

Kelly / Helli.

Kimberly.

Lara*.

Larissa.

Lavinia.

Leonie, the.

Letti.

Lena.

Liane.

Lorena.

Loretta.

Mandy.

Mara.

Maria.

Melanie.

Mia,

Michelle / Miheala.

Mila / Ramona.

Mina.

Mona Lisa.

Monika.

Morena.

Natalia.

Nicky.

Nina*.

Nora.

Olga.

Olympia.

Paloma.

Pia.

Rafaela.

Raissa*.

Raphaela,

Rebecca.

Ros.

Roxy.

Selena.

Selina.

Siand.

Sophia (D).

Steffi,

Sunny, PL.

Tania.

Vanessa.

Venus.

Viorica,

Xiomara.

Yellis.

Zeynep.