Moscow

Rating expensive cities:

These ratings are based on downtown office space prices, certain services, residential prices etc. and aren't really 100% accurate, but they do at least provide a general guideline. That said, there is seemingly no logical reason why some cities are ranked higher than others.

Ca_T: I like ODS a lot and can't wait to get back and just relax... am quite frankly a bit worried that ODS will get overrun with tourists however and just become another beach resort town ala Mallorca or Rimini with its groping tourists, lackluster service and annoying crowds of sun-happy revelers. I certainly dont need that, if I want that I can stay in Europe and actually spend less based on the kind of great package deals you get here. I just hope that ODS can maintain its special character!

If I had to go somewhere to choose the world's best women for my personal harem and could only go one place, I'd still go to Moscow though... FSU's collective wealth of beauty resides there. My current "flames" are from Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan, not to mention some of the standard blonde type.

Odessan women do have a very special sexual quality about them though and if someone would say that Odessan women were the world's best, it would be hard to argue... its all a matter of perspective.

I'm admittedly spoiled in Moscow and the freebie market. It's better than ever if you apply yourself properly and can offer the girl at least some intangible "value-added" quality, which is essentially at least the notion that you live there, are successful and might actually see her for a second date after banging her... I also find that Moscow women are addicted to adventure and excitement, if you can offer her something more than the standard expensive dinners, flowers and perfume gifts you can get far. I've long stopped going to expensive restaurants for example, its usually just a waste of time and money and doesnt really get you any further with the girl. My favorite gift is still lingerie... she is almost forced to model it for you and they all love it...

If I want to go someplace to relax and let life pamper me with sun, frolick and babes, Odessa is the place.
Moscow is high-powered, energetic wild women, crazy sex and variety variety variety.
And lets not forget Kiev..

It's good to be a man in EE.

[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]These ratings aren't really 100% accurate .... there is seemingly no logical reason why some cities are ranked higher than others. .[/QUOTE]


"Mercer’s survey covers 144 cities across six continents and measures the comparative cost of over 200 items in each location, including housing, transport, food, clothing, household goods and entertainment. It is the world’s most comprehensive cost of living survey and is used to help multinational companies and governments determine compensation allowances for their expatriate employees. With New York as the base city scoring 100 points, Tokyo scores 134.7 and is more than three times costlier than Asuncion, which has an index of 40.3."

[QUOTE=Prosal]According to the latest (2005) Cost of Living Survey from Mercer Human Resource Consulting, Moscow remains in the four most expensives cities in the world.

[url]http://www.finfacts.com/costofliving.htm[/url]

Kiev (and Odessa, presuming that cost of living is approximately the same in both cities), in 54th place, is not that cheap. Bucharest is the least expensive European city in 103rd place, and Buenos Aires one of the least expensive in the world in 142nd place.[/QUOTE]


Many thanks for this link and info. I will use it to plan where to visit as I am looking for 3 or 4 cities or towns in Europe where sex with fare skinned girls is easily available and the cost of living is not ridiculously high. I am covered with Asia as I have found that Utopia in the Philippines and Thailand, Africa, the DR, Colombia and Brazil more than cover me for my dark fetish but reasonable priced, fun loving, white skinned or blonds have eluded me for a while other than in my own country of Australia but then you need to keep them long term as a GF which I don't want to do due to the hassle.

I will post all reports of future trips here as a thank you for all the great info I have got so far.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=DirkDingy]this list must be plagued by a very screwy methodology and doesn't pass the initial smell test. it porports that budapest (24), warsaw (28), and prague (27) are more expensive than los angeles (44) and that hanoi (50) is just as expensive as san franciso (50). maybe i just didn't take the time to read it properly...[/QUOTE]

I am suggesting that it may be based on the cost of living proportionate to the per capita income of the population and the basic monthly salary. Just a guess..

Sorry guys. Don't mean to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] anyone off. Moscow prices, for everything, are fake. There is this example that I use with people to explain the difference. If you have an acre of land in the west you plant fruit trees that reap the reward in a couple of years. In Russia if you have an acre of land you build a fence, bribe officials, hire security, and plant potatoes that you reap in less than a year. See the differnce? Thank you Matthew Maly

See, people here open a store and they do not know when it is going to be closed down. They will try to screw you over for the maximum price for the limited time they are in business. The business plan extends to about 1 years here at tops.

As a small business owner, I think that the rates on offices and apartments are ridiculous. The average person who lives here makes about 550 dollars per month. That is less than my rent. To live here like a dignified human being, not a Russian with the explolding Rubin TV and sausage that is not made cat meat, it costs more than LA. I actually told a landlord- "Why am I paying Cali prices" and she said " Well, this is not California."

Yes, I can see that.

No ocean and -30 in the winter. Here have all my money! Please let me live here!

You guys, what would you choose, a house by the sea in Malibu or a "kottazh" in Zhukovo? I am actually curious, where would you live if you had a couple mil burning a hole in you pocket?

They have a new law where you can only import 35 kg a month from China where before you could import 200 kg a month. The reason was to protect Russian manufacturing. The problem is- there is no Russian manufacturing! In the Far East 80% of things are imported from China. It will basically raise prices at a time when the PM said to the the money minister "Kus kino mat'".

I seriously think that when they make laws here they go- "how can we screw over the average Russian?"

Sorry to be pendatic but I only post messages here when I am drunk off my ass.

I think I will be at the Boarhouse tomorrow (Sun) if anyone wants to meet up.

[QUOTE=Victoria2005]In this Hotel girls in a bar do not sit. It is new Hotel. You will find girls here
[url]http://www.sweet-dreams.ru[/url] and [url]http://www.yourfantasy.ru[/url]

I know, I first must read the previous posts, and indeed I am doing it slowly because there are so many.


Thanks to all,

K[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]OK, so on my last morning in Moscow I gave Victoria a ring to have Katya come by the apartment for 2-3 hrs prior to taking my long trip home. I have nothing to complain about with respect to the service and the girl's attitude but it sure the hell wasn't Katya that advertised on the yourfantasy website, no matter how much she insisted that it was or how bad your screen resolution might be! The "Katya" that showed up was not 19, closer to early thirties, perhaps late twenties consider how Russian women tend to age (I laugh at CT's 'they age in dog-years after 25' comment.

So mongers be warned, the photos are come-ons, but the experience was nevertheless good, but if what you order is what you expect, you'll be disappointed what shows up.

[QUOTE=DirkDingy]this list is bullshit. no need for elaboration. it's not germane who printed it or what criterion was used.

how much does a girl in nf go for these days?[/QUOTE]

Explain NF please and I will answer if I can.

[QUOTE=DirkDingy]this list is bullshit. no need for elaboration. it's not germane who printed it or what criterion was used.

how much does a girl in nf go for these days?[/QUOTE]

Here is an other web address on the subject that confirms the earlier findings and better explains how the authors came to their conclusions.

Enjoy

[url]http://www.citymayors.com/features/cost_survey.html[/url]

Hi friend I have seen you every where on the bard. Now tell me what it is good in Moscow. I am travelling to moscow, kiev & Odessai. So give your fair advz.

Spark 78

[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Rating expensive cities:

These ratings are based on downtown office space prices, certain services, residential prices etc. and aren't really 100% accurate, but they do at least provide a general guideline. That said, there is seemingly no logical reason why some cities are ranked higher than others.

Ca_T: I like ODS a lot and can't wait to get back and just relax... am quite frankly a bit worried that ODS will get overrun with tourists however and just become another beach resort town ala Mallorca or Rimini with its groping tourists, lackluster service and annoying crowds of sun-happy revelers. I certainly dont need that, if I want that I can stay in Europe and actually spend less based on the kind of great package deals you get here. I just hope that ODS can maintain its special character!

If I had to go somewhere to choose the world's best women for my personal harem and could only go one place, I'd still go to Moscow though... FSU's collective wealth of beauty resides there. My current "flames" are from Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan, not to mention some of the standard blonde type.

Odessan women do have a very special sexual quality about them though and if someone would say that Odessan women were the world's best, it would be hard to argue... its all a matter of perspective.

I'm admittedly spoiled in Moscow and the freebie market. It's better than ever if you apply yourself properly and can offer the girl at least some intangible "value-added" quality, which is essentially at least the notion that you live there, are successful and might actually see her for a second date after banging her... I also find that Moscow women are addicted to adventure and excitement, if you can offer her something more than the standard expensive dinners, flowers and perfume gifts you can get far. I've long stopped going to expensive restaurants for example, its usually just a waste of time and money and doesnt really get you any further with the girl. My favorite gift is still lingerie... she is almost forced to model it for you and they all love it...

If I want to go someplace to relax and let life pamper me with sun, frolick and babes, Odessa is the place.
Moscow is high-powered, energetic wild women, crazy sex and variety variety variety.
And lets not forget Kiev..

It's good to be a man in EE.[/QUOTE]

Ffmbud,

I think someone else also posted on their experience with sweet-dreams.ru. Pretty much the same as yours; the experience was OK, but the website is not completely honest.

Neither of you posted prices, though. What are the girls charging?

On another note....

Spark78,

Dark Shark???? Wasn't he a character in Threepenny Opera?

Stravinsky,

What I was proposed was $200 for 3 hrs for the services.

[quote=peasant]
so [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off.
moscow is everything fake.

there i use people.
in russia you bribe officials, and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] the dyevs who
make about 5 dollars per month.

that is my human sausage the cat meat costs more.

well, i am actually curious, where would you live if you had a couple mil burning a hole in you pocket?

they have a new law where you can only import 35 kg a month from china where before you could import 200 kg a month. the problem is- there is no russian manufacturing! in the far east 80% of things are imported from china.

i think the laws here screw over the average russian

[/quote]

there are a few other places a monger could make a stand with a
couple million.

just send your driver down to the container port 10km from odessa, and you can import as much as you want.

all laws are meant to screw average people. you think the rich lawyers
that make the laws give a fuck about anyone but themselves and
their rich buddies? you better wake up. though if you've got millions,
then you're one of them. so from all us average joes, go cry to mommy!

Peasant:

There is a lot of truth in your post, but I really dont seem to get your point... :)

If I had a couple of mil I wouldnt live in Moscow, but I would go there on weekends and party my ass off.

Blastoff:

NF is Night Flight.

Dirk Dingy:

From what I remember prices are $250+ for 3 hours-night. You can probably talk girls down to $200 on an offnight. I talked one down to $170 last summer, but ended up not taking her and going to a normal club... it felt like a small victory in a long war.

Spark78:

What is good in Moscow? Depends on your budget. If money is no object, than the strip clubs are great. All you ever wanted to know about strip clubs can be found in 109's reports, there is a link to some of them in the Reports of Distinction thread. If money is at least a secondary concern, then internet girls/escorts/salons. If you have the time and inclination, the single best thing about Moscow is the freebie market, clubs, parties and debauched sex.

Hello, friends!

I would like to present you the selection of Kiev (Peter, Moscow) prostitutes. All have quite normal pictures in their questionnaires, so you can make it out. Here is the selection itself:

Janet 25 (60$ for hour, 100$ for 2 hours, 200$ for night)
[url]http://www.destiny.com.ua/alimila[/url]
(7-812-972-12-26, 1500RUR for hour 2500RUR for 2 hours)

[url]http://www.destiny.com.ua/likaaa3000[/url]
(8-911-242-36-00, 3000RUR for hour)

[url]http://www.destiny.com.ua/magda555[/url]
(8-921-780-60-84, 1500RUR for hour)

[url]http://www.destiny.com.ua/tetka01[/url]
(8-905-222-35-66, 1800RUR for hour)

[url]http://www.destiny.com.ua/gannetta1[/url]
(8-904-332-75-19, 1800RUR for hour)

[url]http://www.destiny.com.ua/wlada4[/url]
(8-911-176-13-13, 1800RUR for hour)

You have to be registered to see the big pictures. Registration is free and if you know what and where you should push it will take a couple of minutes. Just don't ask how much time it took for me :))

So, how to be registered:

1. Click on the word "Регистрация" (Registration) at the upper left.

2. If a questionnaire did not appear push the big green button named "Регистрация"(Registration).

3. Fill the questionnaire:
"Логин" = enter your login (try make your login longer so it won't be already occupied, but if is occupied the system will suggest to choose the other variant)

"Пароль" = password
"еще раз"(once again) = here you shall repeat your password

E-mail - well, you know what to do :))
"Ваше имя:"(Your name) - just enter your name here. Actually you can write here anything, but it should consist of one word.

"Ваш пол:"(Your sex) - choose your sex ("Мужской"(male)/"Женский"(female))
"Дата рождения:"(Date of birth) - enter any date, but you have to choose something

"Место жительства:"(Place of residense) - you also have to choose something here
"С кем бы вы хотели познакомиться?"(Who you would like to become acquainted with?) - choose with whom you wish to become acquainted :)) (choose "с девушкой" = with a girl)

"Код:"(Code) - enter a code on a picture

"Я принимаю условия, изложенные в Соглашении о предоставлении услуг"(I accept the terms specified in Agreement about the grant of services) - put a mark and push the button "Зарегистрироваться"(Register).

You will get an e-mail, where you will find a link for confirmation of registration. In principle you can confirm it if you still gonna look for the girlies here, otherwise your questionnaire will just be removed in a day.

Well that's all! Have fun!!! :)

[QUOTE=Doctor_Skank]Peasant:

There is a lot of truth in your post, but I really dont seem to get your point... :)

If I had a couple of mil I wouldnt live in Moscow, but I would go there on weekends and party my ass off.

Blastoff:

NF is Night Flight.

Dirk Dingy:

From what I remember prices are $250+ for 3 hours-night. You can probably talk girls down to $200 on an offnight. I talked one down to $170 last summer, but ended up not taking her and going to a normal club... it felt like a small victory in a long war.

Spark78:

What is good in Moscow? Depends on your budget. If money is no object, than the strip clubs are great. All you ever wanted to know about strip clubs can be found in 109's reports, there is a link to some of them in the Reports of Distinction thread. If money is at least a secondary concern, then internet girls/escorts/salons. If you have the time and inclination, the single best thing about Moscow is the freebie market, clubs, parties and debauched sex.[/QUOTE]

Doctor_Skank,
You said if you had a couple of million dollars you would NOT live in Moscow but just visit week ends, which surprised me.

May I ask IYHO where you would base yourself in the world if you were retired with a couple of mil and no wife and family?