Stupid Shit in Kyiv

[QUOTE=BloodRed;2938419]The Ukrainian incursion into Kursk will have no impact on the final outcome of this war, which will be a Russian victory.[/QUOTE]In February 2022, Ukrainian civilians were out in the streets, obstructing, fighting, resisting. Ukrainian babuskas were cursing and spitting on Russian troups. The government was passing out rifles like mad. In spite of this, resistance to the vaunted Russian war machine was predicted to be futile. And yet it succeeded largely by will and spirit. My question is why do is there none of that in Kursk Oblast? Where are the partisans? Where is the Russian civilian resistance? Where are the Russian babuskas? To me, this says everything about the war.

This is less about Ukraine winning, than Russia failing. What do you suppose is going to happen then in Dagestan, Ingushetia, Chechnya, Karelia -- even Kalinigrad? Where are the foreign legionnaires currently fighting in Ukraine: the Dagestanis, Chechens, Crimeans, Siberians going to go? Do you expect them all to just peacefully return to their lands? Frankly, I don't see it.

Okay, so you're living abroad somewhere in Dubai, UAE or wherever. Maybe you have a dollar bank account, a girlfriend, and good wifi. You stream Russian TV and are reassured by it. But have you given any thought to what you will feel and do once the RF collapses?

The nature of belief is strange. Once you believe in a narrative it is difficult emotionally to let it go. Like any addiction, it is difficult, maybe nearly impossible to abandon it by yourself. The process of unbelieving is usually only started by a traumatic loss. I'm suggesting that's what is going to happen to you. Prepare for it.

[QUOTE=BloodRed;2938420]Walking into a territory is one thing. Holding it, sustaining it is a whole different ballgame.[/QUOTE]It's not about that. It's not even about the strategic significance of the territory. It's all about the psychological significance. The invasion has lifted the spirits of the Ukrainians and further damaged the morale of the Russians. Invaders on Russian soil again! And as others have said, this display of weakness on Russia's part might encourage its other enemies to act as well. Not good. Not good at all! Putin has totally fucked up! Well, the world already knew that much.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2938497]And as others have said, this display of weakness on Russia's part might encourage its other enemies to act as well. Not good. [/QUOTE]Exactly! Stalin's catastrophic handling of the 1939 Winter War emboldened Hitler and pushed him to attack in 1941.

And it's not just enemies who're encouraged to act. Putin's "friends" are encouraged too, and for a good reason.

During the Second Opium War in 19th century a Russian diplomat inserted himself as a broker between a Chinese Emperor and Anglo-French allied command. He managed to convince both parties to funnel the negotiations through him and using the art of deception and blackmail annexed almost 1 million square kilometers without firing a single shot.

The Far East Russian port Vladivostok and its surroundings used to be a historic Chinese province called Haishenwai, and that's the name China still uses on their maps [B]even today[/B] despite their "limitless friendship" horseshit heralded by Chairman Xi. The Chinese leaders must be winking at each other and wonder: What the hell are we waiting for, LOL?

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2938431]So, the Ukrainians did build the fortifications in anticipation of Russia's attack, and you didn't?

In other words, Russia fucked up? Thank you for confirming this, since there is no other way to interpret your reply.

You're waging a full-blown war on a neighboring country for almost three years. All your Kyiv in 3 days (2 days / 1 week /2 weeks) phantasies are long gone.

You throw at Ukrainians all you've got leaving your own borders vulnerable.

And yet, instead of building an impenetrable line of defense, you allowed several thousands Ukrainian troops walk in, kill hundreds of your soldiers, take prisoners another 2,000, and capture over 440 square miles of territory.

And it's not like you have no idea how to build defenses. The Surovikhin line held up quite nicely last year.

And it's not like you didn't see the danger. Kursk received 15 billion rubles to build the fortifications. Of course, your rubles are just a pale shadow of what it used to be, but hey, 15 billions is still a nice chunk.

What happened to this money, pray tell?

So, once again thank you for confirming what I already knew, but I don't think your supervisors will be happy with your lesson plans.

And BTW, you've failed to explain why Russian civilians have no desire to fight against Ukrainian liberators. Could you insert this topic in your curriculum?[/QUOTE]Russia did let their guard down and fucked up, there is no denying that. But as I have already said, this stunt from Ukraine will have no impact on the final outcome.

P. S Pay attention to where the real battle is, in the Donbas.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2938453]In February 2022, Ukrainian civilians were out in the streets, obstructing, fighting, resisting. Ukrainian babuskas were cursing and spitting on Russian troups. The government was passing out rifles like mad. In spite of this, resistance to the vaunted Russian war machine was predicted to be futile. And yet it succeeded largely by will and spirit. My question is why do is there none of that in Kursk Oblast? Where are the partisans? Where is the Russian civilian resistance? Where are the Russian babuskas? To me, this says everything about the war.

This is less about Ukraine winning, than Russia failing. What do you suppose is going to happen then in Dagestan, Ingushetia, Chechnya, Karelia -- even Kalinigrad? Where are the foreign legionnaires currently fighting in Ukraine: the Dagestanis, Chechens, Crimeans, Siberians going to go? Do you expect them all to just peacefully return to their lands? Frankly, I don't see it.

Okay, so you're living abroad somewhere in Dubai, UAE or wherever. Maybe you have a dollar bank account, a girlfriend, and good wifi. You stream Russian TV and are reassured by it. But have you given any thought to what you will feel and do once the RF collapses?

.[/QUOTE]The only collapse you should be concerned about is that of the AFU. And I am not saying it's imminent, but it's the only collapse we shall see, if there is one.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2938497]It's not about that. It's not even about the strategic significance of the territory. It's all about the psychological significance. The invasion has lifted the spirits of the Ukrainians and further damaged the morale of the Russians. Invaders on Russian soil again! And as others have said, this display of weakness on Russia's part might encourage its other enemies to act as well. Not good. Not good at all! Putin has totally fucked up! Well, the world already knew that much.[/QUOTE]Russia got caught with their pants down, there is no denying that.

The real Ukrainian objective in Kursk was to capture the Kursk Nuclear Power Plant, something they failed to do. Now as you can see, they are constantly changing the reason for the incursion. Sometimes they are saying it was to exchange prisoners, to improve their negotiation position for the future, and now this non sense about creating a buffer zone. The real reason was the KNPP, they failed to capture that, and I don't think they will be able to do so now.

The real battle is taking place right now in Donetsk and the Bandera positions are slowly collapsing. A very important battle is taking place in Pokrovsk, a very heavily fortified city and supply route.

[QUOTE=BloodRed;2938782]The only collapse you should be concerned about is that of the AFU. And I am not saying it's imminent, but it's the only collapse we shall see, if there is one.[/QUOTE]Can you point to a single, correct prediction you have made in the last 2.5 years?

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2938792]Can you point to a single, correct prediction you have made in the last 2.5 years?[/QUOTE]Sure.

I predicted the Banderite counter offensive in 2023 would fail and it did. It failed so badly actually that even I was shocked. I thought they'd at least reach Tokmak. As for the rest of my predictions, I have already listed them. I have only been active on this forum for the past few months or so. The most important prediction is one I have repeated many times, namely Russia winning and keeping the 4 new territories + Crimea and Ukraine never joining NATO.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2936651]Paulie, Please see reply in American Politics thread[/QUOTE]There's plenty of content from my last several posts to you to reply to here, where everything is on topic, that you completely skipped over. Though we already have your mindset memorized by heart by now, give the posts a go, point by point. One is obvious parody. Or, continue to leave them alone, or cherry pick and attack your caricatures, shift to whataboutisms / false equivocations and "deep state" conspiracy theories, or type out another essay of Kremlin propaganda. I trust most here will notice when you fail to take on the content. If not then it doesn't matter, as the war isn't going to be settled in this monger microcosm.

P.S. Do you really think it scores you some credibility when you claim you aren't voting for Trump? LOL I suppose anything that helps you avoid defending the many dumb statements you've made is helpful.

[QUOTE=BloodRed;2938419]The Ukrainian incursion into Kursk will have no impact on the final outcome of this war, which will be a Russian victory.[/QUOTE]We heard all that bravado the first week.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2938671]

The Far East Russian port Vladivostok and its surroundings used to be a historic Chinese province called Haishenwai, [/QUOTE]The Chinese can capture even more land in that area, using Putlers words: Because historically Chinese.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2937620]Yeo, I have been saying that for over a year if Ukraine is not careful they will end up losing Odessa. What a mess, they should have been negotiating from day one. Now they will probably end up with next to nothing.

Ukraine joining NATO will never happen, Putin would Nuke them before letting that happen. Hopefully NATO will collapse after this disaster or if Trump becomes President, we pull out of NATO or make major changes. NATO is a joke, hopefully we will learn from this disaster, but I have my doubts. [/QUOTE]This buffoon is the hands down winner in the failed predictions count. He's been around since day one, and hasn't gotten anything right yet. The sky is always falling in the US and the Ukraine, while he ignores all rebuttals that correct what he's decided from the start to believe. Check his post history. Russia is short on allies, while China is dead set against nuclear escalation. The world also isn't safe once tyrants realize they can get whatever they want by rattling the nuclear saber. The joke is YOU, but you're still too stupid to get it.

[QUOTE=BloodRed;2938829]Sure.

I predicted the Banderite counter offensive in 2023 would fail and it did. It failed so badly actually that even I was shocked. I thought they'd at least reach Tokmak. As for the rest of my predictions, I have already listed them. I have only been active on this forum for the past few months or so. The most important prediction is one I have repeated many times, namely Russia winning and keeping the 4 new territories + Crimea and Ukraine never joining NATO.[/QUOTE]So you don't have any proof of any fulfilled prophecies. Or if you do, then post them here.

[QUOTE=BloodRed;2938785]Russia got caught with their pants down, there is no denying that.

The real Ukrainian objective in Kursk was to capture the Kursk Nuclear Power Plant, something they failed to do. Now as you can see, they are constantly changing the reason for the incursion. Sometimes they are saying it was to exchange prisoners, to improve their negotiation position for the future, and now this non sense about creating a buffer zone. The real reason was the KNPP, they failed to capture that, and I don't think they will be able to do so now.

The real battle is taking place right now in Donetsk and the Bandera positions are slowly collapsing. A very important battle is taking place in Pokrovsk, a very heavily fortified city and supply route.[/QUOTE]When you say "they," I assume you are talking about the Ukrainian army. Link us to the sources where Ukrainian officials have revealed their objectives, and where the same have desperately changed their story. Even if available it could be a ruse. According to some sources the Ukrainians have blown up two bridges in the Kursk region, heavily damaged an airport and fuel depot, while there's some video evidence. These aren't official sources. Tell us more about the "slowly collapsing positions in Donetsk and Bandera," with links to your source material. Yours is an easy game to play. You come pontificating day after day while making predictions, but I've never seen any links, no source materials. There's no evidence of any fulfilled predictions while the outcome of the war, and perhaps the fate of Putin is yet to be determined. Where are you getting your information? All we see so far is an apparent fellow traveler for fun with a lot of unsubstantiated claims and predictions. Source citations are academics 101. Show us where you are getting your information. If you refuse, then it's fair to assume that you are embarrassed by it.

The "real war" is everywhere it's fought, and covers both the material and psychological. Heavy focus in one area leaves gaps elsewhere. And the Ukrainians despise you, and probably will for generations, while most of the Russian population seems indifferent. That's quite a contrast. Even if Russia manages to conquer Ukraine your enforcers will be looking over their shoulders for a very long time. Based on my many interactions the Ukrainian focus is on Russia, unlike the US that focuses mostly on Putin.

P.S. To the audience, take notice if he keeps talking as if he's an expert but posts no links.

[QUOTE=BloodRed;2938785]The real Ukrainian objective in Kursk was to capture the Kursk Nuclear Power Plant, something they failed to do. Now as you can see, they are constantly changing the reason for the incursion. Sometimes they are saying it was to exchange prisoners, to improve their negotiation position for the future, and now this non sense about creating a buffer zone. [/QUOTE]RUSSIA says the power plant was the Ukrainian objective, thus it's clear where Blood Red is getting his information. Afterall, he asserts that Alexi Navalny died of natural causes. Tiny has yet to tell us what he thinks about that, but completely dodged the question. But then we get this strident, exaggerated language, "constantly changing the reason" for the incursion, though a buffer zone, a move to draw troops away from Donetsk, plus gather prisoners are none mutually exclusive. Of course he believes and predicts it will all amount to failure, though some sources report substantial prisoner hauls and there's photos, while reportedly a third bridge near Kursk was just destroyed.

But Moscow has a very long history of getting the real story out to the world, so we should just believe them, right? Wink Guys skip the middle men. You don't need BR and Tiny. It's all in Google. Just comes here for the predictions, as the propaganda sources often don't include these.

P.S. I still want to see your links. You've never posted a single one best I've seen.